From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct  1 04:32:46 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:32:46 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] date query
In-Reply-To: <008701c4a736$51891f30$f3c581d5@pedro>
References: <000c01c4a27d$9b424600$f9c581d5@pedro>
	<691989590.20040925091522@cactus.dk>
	<008701c4a736$51891f30$f3c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <49180140.20041001113246@cactus.dk>

Hi Pedro

> Gustav, sometimes i don't trust myself
> to show a query that isn't working.
> Because i expect that the solution is simple,
> i sometimes think "what do the other members
> of the group will think of such an easy question".

That's a bad excuse. No one is pointing fingers here - it's simply not
the spirit of the list.

Contrary, sometimes you (anyone) can be blind for the obvious fix
which new eyes may catch in a few seconds.

/gustav



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Oct  1 06:33:27 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 07:33:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] date query
In-Reply-To: <49180140.20041001113246@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041001113328.RIJU1790.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


Contrary, sometimes you (anyone) can be blind for the obvious fix which new
eyes may catch in a few seconds.

=============My routine is to ask the question and bingo -- light goes on.
There's something about phrasing the problem as a question that seems to
trigger something in my brain. And if you could only see the number of SQL
statements with a misplaced " or & -- you'd know Gustav speaks the truth. ;)


Susan H. 



From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Fri Oct  1 09:37:11 2004
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 07:37:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin
In-Reply-To: <49180140.20041001113246@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <AMEDIDMAFJBGBGHMOEAEGEBCEBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

hello to the list,
I created an app years ago that interfaced with the client's medical
practice software.
The software is Mediwin, which uses the Advantage db engine.
After an upgrade to the Mediwin version, my ODBC calls fail for "Can't lock
all records" message from Jet. Some pursuit of the ODBC help indicates that
a network failure could also be an issue. And sure enough, they had the
network guy in about the same time.
Very odd that I can still link to the table of interest sometimes and even
export to Excel, but can't open the table in datasheet view nor successfully
run any of my code.

Naturally, no one thought to let me know that the upgrade was happening. And
I am concerned that the vendor of the Mediwin software is not being helpful
because they would love to recreate most of my work themselves.

And of course, the client is now 10 days behind in sending out
correspondence that should have been done automatically from my program thru
Word....

So, any insight/comments on ODBC, Advantage, Mediwin or a comforting word
would be appreciated.

best,


bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net






From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Fri Oct  1 10:35:31 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:35:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin
References: <AMEDIDMAFJBGBGHMOEAEGEBCEBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <060101c4a7cc$4a5555d0$6401a8c0@default>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Heygood" <bheygood at abestsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:37 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin


> hello to the list,
> I created an app years ago that interfaced with the client's medical
> practice software.
> The software is Mediwin, which uses the Advantage db engine.
> After an upgrade to the Mediwin version, my ODBC calls fail for "Can't
lock
> all records" message from Jet. Some pursuit of the ODBC help indicates
that
> a network failure could also be an issue. And sure enough, they had the
> network guy in about the same time.
> Very odd that I can still link to the table of interest sometimes and even
> export to Excel, but can't open the table in datasheet view nor
successfully
> run any of my code.
<snip>

Bob,

I am working with another medical practice software
called DME VI (formerly Dezine) whose creators have
decided to make their own data definition files and ODBC
drivers to prevent linking to their tables without paying first.

I wouldn't be surprised if this has/will become a standard
practice in the medical software industry. You may want
to check if that's the wall you've run into.
----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Fri Oct  1 10:28:20 2004
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <AMEDIDMAFJBGBGHMOEAEGEBCEBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <001801c4a7cb$4890def0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way to
publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859






From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Oct  1 10:55:01 2004
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:55:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <001801c4a7cb$4890def0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
References: <AMEDIDMAFJBGBGHMOEAEGEBCEBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
	<001801c4a7cb$4890def0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c92041001085544fb47f2@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way to
> publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation. 

-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Oct  1 11:02:50 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:02:50 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677217FF76@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I recall a similar problem several years with an ODBC driver that interfaced
with a package that used Foxpro. When the package was updated the driver
quite working. The solution was to get an updated ODBC driver. HTH
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin


hello to the list,
I created an app years ago that interfaced with the client's medical
practice software.
The software is Mediwin, which uses the Advantage db engine.
After an upgrade to the Mediwin version, my ODBC calls fail for "Can't lock
all records" message from Jet. Some pursuit of the ODBC help indicates that
a network failure could also be an issue. And sure enough, they had the
network guy in about the same time.
Very odd that I can still link to the table of interest sometimes and even
export to Excel, but can't open the table in datasheet view nor successfully
run any of my code.

Naturally, no one thought to let me know that the upgrade was happening. And
I am concerned that the vendor of the Mediwin software is not being helpful
because they would love to recreate most of my work themselves.

And of course, the client is now 10 days behind in sending out
correspondence that should have been done automatically from my program thru
Word....

So, any insight/comments on ODBC, Advantage, Mediwin or a comforting word
would be appreciated.

best,


bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net




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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Fri Oct  1 11:06:12 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 12:06:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <001801c4a7cb$4890def0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c4a7d0$92a8d1f0$060aa845@hargrove.internal>

Yes.  You need to include the Access Runtime files with your application.
If you have a copy of Office Developer Edition, these files will
automatically be included if you use the Package and Deployment Add-In.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way to
publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859




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From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Fri Oct  1 12:12:54 2004
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 13:12:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <000e01c4a7d0$92a8d1f0$060aa845@hargrove.internal>
Message-ID: <000001c4a7d9$e3feb980$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

I guess...if you don't have Developer Edition....out of luck, huh?

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Yes.  You need to include the Access Runtime files with your application. If
you have a copy of Office Developer Edition, these files will automatically
be included if you use the Package and Deployment Add-In.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way to
publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859




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From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Fri Oct  1 12:12:54 2004
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 13:12:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c92041001085544fb47f2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000101c4a7d9$e43755b0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access, but a
different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere with their
version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way 
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation. 

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Oct  1 12:39:41 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 13:39:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43840750@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

It does do some .dll dancing.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access,
but a
different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere with
their
version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way 
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation. 

-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
great ride!"
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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Oct  1 13:17:30 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 13:17:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <000101c4a7d9$e43755b0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEBAGAAA.john@winhaven.net>

Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program. SageKey is
a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield products to
provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also don't allow your
application to get screwed up by having the wrong version of Access already
(or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it comes
to having a professional looking installation that actually works on every
PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts down
tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5 years now and
can honestly say I have had little if any problem with installations or
version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for the long run it pays
for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access, but a
different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere with their
version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

--
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct  1 13:41:36 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 20:41:36 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
Message-ID: <2542110181.20041001204136@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
have to set it each and everywhere?

I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?

/gustav



From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Fri Oct  1 13:44:14 2004
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:44:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEBAGAAA.john@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <000001c4a7e6$a7273de0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less expensive.
:(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll see how that
goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program. SageKey is
a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield products to
provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also don't allow your
application to get screwed up by having the wrong version of Access already
(or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it comes
to having a professional looking installation that actually works on every
PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts down
tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5 years now and
can honestly say I have had little if any problem with installations or
version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for the long run it pays
for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access, but a
different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere with their
version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way 
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

--
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body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Oct  1 14:01:45 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:01:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43840752@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

In a function?

MsgBox cstrMessage, vbInformation, cstrTitle
Const cstrMessage As String = _
      "You are not authorized to open this form."
    Const cstrTitle As String = _
      "Restricted Form"

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:42 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


Hi all

Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
have to set it each and everywhere?

I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?

/gustav

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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Oct  1 14:08:36 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:08:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43840753@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

So while we are on the subject, sort of, that last time I used a front
end updater it was the Ted Avery version.  Is there an up to date
version for XP or another alternative out there?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less
expensive.
:(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll see how
that
goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program.
SageKey is
a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield products to
provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also don't allow
your
application to get screwed up by having the wrong version of Access
already
(or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it
comes
to having a professional looking installation that actually works on
every
PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts down
tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5 years now
and
can honestly say I have had little if any problem with installations or
version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for the long run it
pays
for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access,
but a
different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere with
their
version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way 
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Fri Oct  1 15:28:27 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:28:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <000001c4a7e6$a7273de0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
Message-ID: <PDEEKCIJDDJOJAKBJBLGCEAPCCAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

In my experience, the Access Runtime is installed in a folder with RT(run
time) in the path.  This differentiates it from a standard Access install.

I have never had any installation problems using Access Runtime and the
Package and Deployment wizard.  But, then again, I only have about 300
installs around the state of Indiana; maybe I haven't tried it enough yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less expensive.
:(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll see how that
goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program. SageKey is
a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield products to
provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also don't allow your
application to get screwed up by having the wrong version of Access already
(or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it comes
to having a professional looking installation that actually works on every
PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts down
tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5 years now and
can honestly say I have had little if any problem with installations or
version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for the long run it pays
for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access, but a
different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere with their
version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

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From pedro at plex.nl  Fri Oct  1 13:59:39 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 20:59:39 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] date query
References: <20041001113328.RIJU1790.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000001c4a7fe$694d1e50$f4c581d5@pedro>

Hello Gustav and Susan,

i didn't want to offend anyone.
Its not that i believe that people of the list will
point fingers. Its more that i sometimes don't trust myself
in this list, by showing examples. I know this is a bad excuse.

I will to do better in the future.

Greetings

Pedro Janssen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:33 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] date query


>
> Contrary, sometimes you (anyone) can be blind for the obvious fix which
new
> eyes may catch in a few seconds.
>
> =============My routine is to ask the question and bingo -- light goes on.
> There's something about phrasing the problem as a question that seems to
> trigger something in my brain. And if you could only see the number of SQL
> statements with a misplaced " or & -- you'd know Gustav speaks the truth.
;)
>
>
> Susan H.
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Oct  1 17:21:21 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 17:21:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <PDEEKCIJDDJOJAKBJBLGCEAPCCAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEBHGAAA.john@winhaven.net>

Hi Reuben,
But the big question is - does it work in Illinois?

;o)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


In my experience, the Access Runtime is installed in a folder with RT(run
time) in the path.  This differentiates it from a standard Access install.

I have never had any installation problems using Access Runtime and the
Package and Deployment wizard.  But, then again, I only have about 300
installs around the state of Indiana; maybe I haven't tried it enough yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less expensive.
:(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll see how that
goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program. SageKey is
a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield products to
provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also don't allow your
application to get screwed up by having the wrong version of Access already
(or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it comes
to having a professional looking installation that actually works on every
PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts down
tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5 years now and
can honestly say I have had little if any problem with installations or
version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for the long run it pays
for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access, but a
different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere with their
version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

--
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct  1 17:39:09 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:39:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A94@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It isn't the runtime folder that causes the problems using the PD
wizard, it's the fact that it blindly updates dlls, whether or not it
should.  If you're developing on the same platform and against the same
versions that exist on the target machines, you're OK, but it they're
running Office 97 and you're installing runtime 2002, you can run into
headaches unless you use one of the more intelligent installers.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


In my experience, the Access Runtime is installed in a folder with
RT(run
time) in the path.  This differentiates it from a standard Access
install.

I have never had any installation problems using Access Runtime and the
Package and Deployment wizard.  But, then again, I only have about 300
installs around the state of Indiana; maybe I haven't tried it enough
yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less
expensive. :(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll
see how that goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program.
SageKey is a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield
products to provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also
don't allow your application to get screwed up by having the wrong
version of Access already (or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it
comes to having a professional looking installation that actually works
on every PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts
down tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5
years now and can honestly say I have had little if any problem with
installations or version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for
the long run it pays for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access,
but a different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere
with their version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way 
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct  1 17:40:59 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:40:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A95@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It picks up the AppTitle property as the default.  So if your AppTitle
isn't set, you get Microsoft Access as the msgbox title unless you
override it with a title string argument.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:42 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


Hi all

Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
have to set it each and everywhere?

I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?

/gustav

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct  1 17:42:59 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:42:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A96@infoserver01.infostat.local>

That is correct up through Office 2002.  You have to have the developer
*tools* in order to distribute a runtime.  Otherwise, you have no
license to do so.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:kwilliam at ashlandnet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


I guess...if you don't have Developer Edition....out of luck, huh?

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Yes.  You need to include the Access Runtime files with your
application. If you have a copy of Office Developer Edition, these files
will automatically be included if you use the Package and Deployment
Add-In.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way to
publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859




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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct  1 17:45:02 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:45:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A97@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The only time they run into problems is if they *don't* use a desktop
shortcut to open the application.  They need a shortcut that points to
the runtime executable as well as to the database it should open.  There
is no actual "interference" between the runtime and an installed
version, but you can't necessarily mix and match.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:kwilliam at ashlandnet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access,
but a different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere
with their version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation. 

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From greggs at msn.com  Fri Oct  1 18:38:17 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 18:38:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] BE Compact, Backup, and Server Restart
In-Reply-To: <40ADBB12.11214.50EE316@localhost>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIEEJPEGAA.greggs@msn.com>


We have developed a VB program that will (1) compact an Access Database
using Jet Comp, (2) optionally saves a copy, and (3) optionally restart the
system.  We put it in our customer's server task scheduler to restart the
server, compact the BE, and save a copy.  Anyone interested in using it...
enjoy.  We would love to have some feedback.

http://highimpactsolutions.com/shareware/Default.htm

Below are the technical details.

This program is designed to run from a command line.
The purpose is to compact an Access database using the
JETCOMP.EXE command line arguments with the addition of
-b:{fullpath to backup location} and -r for rebooting the PC.

If the -dest: argument is not found the database will be
compacted to the -src: location.

C:\PROGRA~1\HISCOMP\HISCOMP.EXE -src:"c:\mydb.mdb" -v4 -r
would compact a database to its original location and
reboot the machine.

For a list of command line arguments run
C:\PROGRA~1\HISCOMP\JETCOMP.exe /?



        Gregg Steinbrenner
High Impact Solutions
<http://www.highimpactsolutions.com>
           972-223-4559




From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Fri Oct  1 19:55:59 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 20:55:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEBHGAAA.john@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <000901c4a81a$9550c0d0$0200a8c0@COA3>

Is that a variation of "will it play in Peoria?"

I have seen Access RT's from 2.0 forward on OS's from 95 on in all its
variations, and it is damn-near flawless when there is no previous
Office installation.  *However* - if there is another Access version on
the PC, or might be in the future, use a  3rd party install tool.

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 6:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Hi Reuben,
But the big question is - does it work in Illinois?

;o)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


In my experience, the Access Runtime is installed in a folder with
RT(run
time) in the path.  This differentiates it from a standard Access
install.

I have never had any installation problems using Access Runtime and the
Package and Deployment wizard.  But, then again, I only have about 300
installs around the state of Indiana; maybe I haven't tried it enough
yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less
expensive. :(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll
see how that goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program.
SageKey is a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield
products to provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also
don't allow your application to get screwed up by having the wrong
version of Access already (or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it
comes to having a professional looking installation that actually works
on every PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts
down tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5
years now and can honestly say I have had little if any problem with
installations or version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for
the long run it pays for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access,
but a different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere
with their version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way 
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Oct  1 22:03:43 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 23:03:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] date query
In-Reply-To: <000001c4a7fe$694d1e50$f4c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <20041002030343.GPUD1789.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Whatever you're comfortable with. :) 

Susan H. 

Hello Gustav and Susan,

i didn't want to offend anyone.
Its not that i believe that people of the list will point fingers. Its more
that i sometimes don't trust myself in this list, by showing examples. I
know this is a bad excuse.

I will to do better in the future.




From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct  2 04:53:32 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 11:53:32 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43840752@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43840752@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <1586931456.20041002115332@cactus.dk>

Hi Karen

Thanks Karen.
That's similar to what I'm using now.
I was looking for an application wide built in setting.

/gustav


> In a function?

> MsgBox cstrMessage, vbInformation, cstrTitle
> Const cstrMessage As String = _
>       "You are not authorized to open this form."
>     Const cstrTitle As String = _
>       "Restricted Form"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:42 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


> Hi all

> Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
> have to set it each and everywhere?

> I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct  2 04:58:44 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 11:58:44 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A95@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A95@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <827243435.20041002115844@cactus.dk>

Hi Charlotte

Thanks. The only problem is that it doesn't work ...

In the debug window:

? Currentdb.Properties("AppTitle").Value
MyTitle

Still, the title of a messagebox:

  Msgbox "Test"

is "Microsoft Access" and not "MyTitle".

I have done a title bar refresh and even a relaunch with no luck.
What am I missing?

/gustav


> It picks up the AppTitle property as the default.  So if your AppTitle
> isn't set, you get Microsoft Access as the msgbox title unless you
> override it with a title string argument.

> Charlotte Foust


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:42 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


> Hi all

> Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
> have to set it each and everywhere?

> I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct  2 05:28:05 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:28:05 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
In-Reply-To: <827243435.20041002115844@cactus.dk>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A95@infoserver01.infostat.local>
	<827243435.20041002115844@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <639004247.20041002122805@cactus.dk>

Hi Charlotte et all

This property didn't exist if this is what you are referring to:

  CurrentProject.Properties("AppTitle")

But adding it and setting its value to "MyTitle" doesn't make any
difference to the default MsgBox title.

/gustav


> Hi Charlotte

> Thanks. The only problem is that it doesn't work ...

> In the debug window:

> ? Currentdb.Properties("AppTitle").Value
> MyTitle

> Still, the title of a messagebox:

>   Msgbox "Test"

> is "Microsoft Access" and not "MyTitle".

> I have done a title bar refresh and even a relaunch with no luck.
> What am I missing?

> /gustav


>> It picks up the AppTitle property as the default.  So if your AppTitle
>> isn't set, you get Microsoft Access as the msgbox title unless you
>> override it with a title string argument.

>> Charlotte Foust


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:42 AM
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


>> Hi all

>> Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
>> have to set it each and everywhere?

>> I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct  2 08:08:01 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 15:08:01 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API
Message-ID: <17618599514.20041002150801@cactus.dk>

Hi all

For those interested in FTP transfer and classes in Access, go have a
look at this month's open article in Smart Access (beware of line
breaks in URL):

http://www.pinpub.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=Publishing&mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&AudID=C01C1922F71E483AB162D148B15A6F6D&tier=4&id=591D8610892D4BAF96FD4D5EA88C6059

Note: This link is valid this October only.

/gustav



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Oct  2 08:48:12 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 06:48:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <005801c4a886$75a81410$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does the installable file end up being?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



From john at winhaven.net  Sat Oct  2 11:21:44 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 11:21:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
In-Reply-To: <005801c4a886$75a81410$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIOEBNGAAA.john@winhaven.net>

Hi Rocky,
It depends on a lot of things like version of Access, number of MDA, MDE,
MDB, FE, BE, Active X, Add-ons, etc.

I checked an small, basic A97 app with which the installation includes
FE/BE, User manual/instructions(.pdf), A97 runtime, 3 MDA libraries, 2 ocx
files, installation dialogs with custom graphics and options, license
agreements, readme files, the scripts to install the necessary
files/settings to export to text, excel, dbase, the MDAC version I want
installed (which a moot point on most PCs now but better safe than sorry,
adobe acrobat v6, special registry settings, self register ocx files,
install some fonts/icons/shortcuts/program groups, create an uninstall file,
and various other obscure things. I have compiled in a stand alone
Wise/SageKey installation .exe that is useable in W95-WinXP and it is 43MB.

It takes approx. 30 seconds to install if the Acrobat Reader v6 option isn't
selected. The Acrobat file is an install file included within my install
file and is over 15MB as is. Same with the MDAC file which is over 7MB. I
chose to do it this way because I distribute the app on CD so the size just
doesn't matter. If it was distributed via download I would approach it
differently.

Just out of curiosity I made a copy of this folder/script and stripped
everything out except the FE/BE and runtime. The installation .exe was less
then 10MB.

HTH
John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 8:48 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Dear List:

Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable run-time
of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 6MB but
I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does the
installable file end up being?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Oct  2 12:40:30 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:40:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API
In-Reply-To: <17618599514.20041002150801@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000f01c4a8a6$ed51b910$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

How timely.  I'm doing this export project to a mainframe and we have to ftp
the text files to them.

Thanks!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Oct  2 12:47:11 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 10:47:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API
References: <17618599514.20041002150801@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <415EE99F.5@shaw.ca>

Interesting explanation of WinInet but just remember a lot of sites are 
switching to FTPS and SFTP,  so you may have to hook in all the Crypto 
API stuff


Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi all
>
>For those interested in FTP transfer and classes in Access, go have a
>look at this month's open article in Smart Access (beware of line
>breaks in URL):
>
>http://www.pinpub.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=Publishing&mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&AudID=C01C1922F71E483AB162D148B15A6F6D&tier=4&id=591D8610892D4BAF96FD4D5EA88C6059
>
>Note: This link is valid this October only.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Sat Oct  2 12:56:50 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 10:56:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
In-Reply-To: <005801c4a886$75a81410$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <000001c4a8a9$31d26d30$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Rocky,

We are using Wise and Sagekey for our Access 2002 install. The installer
file overhead is 40M, which includes all the MS runtime stuff.  I user the
Sagekey script that does not install Internet Explorer.

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Dear List:

Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable run-time
of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 6MB but
I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does the
installable file end up being?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Oct  2 14:59:30 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:59:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
References: <000001c4a8a9$31d26d30$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>
Message-ID: <00ca01c4a8ba$57193630$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Doug:

Thanks.  Is that a switchable option (the IE thing) or do you have to buy it
like that?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> Rocky,
>
> We are using Wise and Sagekey for our Access 2002 install. The installer
> file overhead is 40M, which includes all the MS runtime stuff.  I user the
> Sagekey script that does not install Internet Explorer.
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
run-time
> of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 6MB
but
> I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does the
> installable file end up being?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Sat Oct  2 15:39:33 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 13:39:33 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
In-Reply-To: <00ca01c4a8ba$57193630$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <001c01c4a8bf$f051f760$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

The downloadable version of the scripts, the one we use, only requires IE4
which should be on any machine that our software is put on.  This script
does not install IE.  If you use ADO library 2.6 you will need to use the CD
version of the scripts and it does load IE which includes MDAC 2.6.  I
suspect the CD version of the scripts includes both packages.   

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 12:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Doug:

Thanks.  Is that a switchable option (the IE thing) or do you have to buy it
like that?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> Rocky,
>
> We are using Wise and Sagekey for our Access 2002 install. The 
> installer file overhead is 40M, which includes all the MS runtime 
> stuff.  I user the Sagekey script that does not install Internet 
> Explorer.
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
run-time
> of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 
> 6MB
but
> I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does 
> the installable file end up being?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Oct  2 19:20:31 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 17:20:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
References: <001c01c4a8bf$f051f760$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>
Message-ID: <011301c4a8de$cb828070$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Doug:

When you say it only requires IE4 does that mean that IE4 must be present on
the target machine?  What if it's not there?  What if they have a later
version?

TIA

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> The downloadable version of the scripts, the one we use, only requires IE4
> which should be on any machine that our software is put on.  This script
> does not install IE.  If you use ADO library 2.6 you will need to use the
CD
> version of the scripts and it does load IE which includes MDAC 2.6.  I
> suspect the CD version of the scripts includes both packages.
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 12:59 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Doug:
>
> Thanks.  Is that a switchable option (the IE thing) or do you have to buy
it
> like that?
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:56 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> > Rocky,
> >
> > We are using Wise and Sagekey for our Access 2002 install. The
> > installer file overhead is 40M, which includes all the MS runtime
> > stuff.  I user the Sagekey script that does not install Internet
> > Explorer.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> > Smolin - Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> run-time
> > of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about
> > 6MB
> but
> > I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does
> > the installable file end up being?
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
> > --
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> >
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From Helmut.E.Kotsch at t-online.de  Sun Oct  3 06:57:56 2004
From: Helmut.E.Kotsch at t-online.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 13:57:56 +0200
Subject: AW: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API
In-Reply-To: <17618599514.20041002150801@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <PBECKMGOGDJDCPCHBBCIAEBGCKAA.helmut.e.kotsch@t-online.de>

Hi,

has anyone been able to unpack the ZIP file? Is advertised as
"410ZAMFIR.ZIP" downloaded as "410zamfir_SA04j1.zip".
I get failure messages when trying to extract.

Helmut Kotsch


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Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Gustav Brock
Gesendet: Samstag, 2. Oktober 2004 15:08
An: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Betreff: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API


Hi all

For those interested in FTP transfer and classes in Access, go have a
look at this month's open article in Smart Access (beware of line
breaks in URL):

http://www.pinpub.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=Publishing&mod=
Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&AudID=C01C192
2F71E483AB162D148B15A6F6D&tier=4&id=591D8610892D4BAF96FD4D5EA88C6059

Note: This link is valid this October only.

/gustav

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct  3 10:34:35 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 11:34:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] way off topic -- Word question
Message-ID: <20041003153456.XNRU1756.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Does anyone have an expression that would print the word count in a header
or footer? 
 
Susan H. 


From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Sun Oct  3 11:31:04 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 12:31:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] way off topic -- Word question
In-Reply-To: <20041003153456.XNRU1756.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIEMMKGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Susan,

  Open the header/footer.  Position to where you want it.  Click
Insert/Field.  In the right hand column, select NumWords

Jim

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Subject: [AccessD] way off topic -- Word question


Does anyone have an expression that would print the word count in a header
or footer?

Susan H.
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From conny at qad.se  Sun Oct  3 11:32:32 2004
From: conny at qad.se (Conny Johansson)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 18:32:32 +0200
Subject: SV: [AccessD] way off topic -- Word question
In-Reply-To: <20041003153456.XNRU1756.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20041003163220.B2D2137E4B@smtp2-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net>


{DOCPROPERTY Words \* MERGEFORMAT} 

If you don't use fields then write the text, select the text and hit CTRL +
F9 to make it a field {} 

Conny Johansson 

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Does anyone have an expression that would print the word count in a header
or footer? 
  
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct  3 11:34:30 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 12:34:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] way off topic -- Word question
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIEMMKGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20041003163429.UAWW1786.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Of for Pete's sakes... <blushing in shame>

Thank you Jim. 

Susan H. 

  Open the header/footer.  Position to where you want it.  Click
Insert/Field.  In the right hand column, select NumWords




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Oct  3 12:09:51 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:09:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API
In-Reply-To: <PBECKMGOGDJDCPCHBBCIAEBGCKAA.helmut.e.kotsch@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <001201c4a96b$d08d9130$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I did unzip it, yes.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 7:58 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: AW: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API


Hi,

has anyone been able to unpack the ZIP file? Is advertised as
"410ZAMFIR.ZIP" downloaded as "410zamfir_SA04j1.zip". I get failure messages
when trying to extract.

Helmut Kotsch


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Gesendet: Samstag, 2. Oktober 2004 15:08
An: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Betreff: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API


Hi all

For those interested in FTP transfer and classes in Access, go have a look
at this month's open article in Smart Access (beware of line breaks in URL):

http://www.pinpub.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=Publishing&mod=
Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&AudID=C01C192
2F71E483AB162D148B15A6F6D&tier=4&id=591D8610892D4BAF96FD4D5EA88C6059

Note: This link is valid this October only.

/gustav

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From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct  3 12:24:13 2004
From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 13:24:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 Runtime on Windows NT Not Showing Bitmap Images
	in Reports
Message-ID: <007d01c4a96d$d084f3c0$6501a8c0@tbig1>

Recently, a client has complained that a custom app I developed for them has
quit displaying bitmap images in reports.

They are using an Access 97 Runtime on Windows NT.

Anyone have any ideas on why this would happen?

TIA,

Myke




From dw-murphy at cox.net  Sun Oct  3 12:37:38 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 10:37:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
In-Reply-To: <011301c4a8de$cb828070$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <000601c4a96f$b0c8a520$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Rocky,

My understanding is that IE is present on all windows machines.  The Access
2002 runtime will only work on Windows 98 and later operating systems.  I
belive that IE 4 or 5 came as part of Windows 98.  We have had no issues
with not installing IE with our package.

Doug

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Doug:

When you say it only requires IE4 does that mean that IE4 must be present on
the target machine?  What if it's not there?  What if they have a later
version?

TIA

Rocky

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From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> The downloadable version of the scripts, the one we use, only requires 
> IE4 which should be on any machine that our software is put on.  This 
> script does not install IE.  If you use ADO library 2.6 you will need 
> to use the
CD
> version of the scripts and it does load IE which includes MDAC 2.6.  I 
> suspect the CD version of the scripts includes both packages.
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 12:59 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Doug:
>
> Thanks.  Is that a switchable option (the IE thing) or do you have to 
> buy
it
> like that?
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:56 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> > Rocky,
> >
> > We are using Wise and Sagekey for our Access 2002 install. The 
> > installer file overhead is 40M, which includes all the MS runtime 
> > stuff.  I user the Sagekey script that does not install Internet 
> > Explorer.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> > Smolin - Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> run-time
> > of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 
> > 6MB
> but
> > I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does 
> > the installable file end up being?
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Oct  3 12:46:13 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 19:46:13 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 Runtime on Windows NT Not Showing Bitmap
	Images in Reports
In-Reply-To: <007d01c4a96d$d084f3c0$6501a8c0@tbig1>
References: <007d01c4a96d$d084f3c0$6501a8c0@tbig1>
Message-ID: <14134597578.20041003194613@cactus.dk>

Hi Myke

It could be a printer or screen driver problem, or perhaps the mdb
file needs a compact.

/gustav


> Recently, a client has complained that a custom app I developed for them has
> quit displaying bitmap images in reports.

> They are using an Access 97 Runtime on Windows NT.



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Oct  3 13:44:48 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:44:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Cross posted - Folding@home
Message-ID: <001301c4a979$12b14180$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I just wanted to call everyone's attention to Folding at home.  I know a lot of
you know about this project, I did and got involved for awhile (through
Google's team I think) but over time forgot about it.  

http://folding.stanford.edu/

Folding at home is a project by Stanford University which essentially builds a
mega super computer created by using our home / office computers to form a
huge network capable of thousands of times more processing power than even
the largest dedicated super computers.  

http://folding.stanford.edu/stats.html

Will take you directly to a page where you can see some statistics for the
supercomputer as it exists at this instant in time.

This system downloads an executable onto a computer which runs in the idle
thread.  This means that while the CPU utilized jumps to 100%, it is all
idle time ad if your programs need CPU cycles folding at home will not
interfere with your program in any way.

I had 4 3ghz computers sitting in my home office doing nothing.  They are
now contributing to mankind's knowledgebase.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 




From serbach at new.rr.com  Sun Oct  3 14:55:04 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 14:55:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
Message-ID: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dear Group,

I helped a friend get MS Office 2000 up and running on his PC yesterday after his PC vendor re-formatted the drive (virus infestation) and re-installed Windows XP Home w/SP2. This system also has a canned Access application that installs Access 2000 Runtime. I installed that AFTER I'd upgraded Office 2000 to SP3. That took a bit of trial and error. Whenever the Runtime install asked about overwriting existing DLLs I told it NO.

Now when my friend runs the Access applications that he uses (his wife runs the Access Runtime app), his reports come out funny. That is, for all the text boxes that contain numerals (phone numbers, dates, currency, other numbers), the FORMATTING of the data (e.g., parentheses around negatives, dollar signs and decimals for currency, slashes for dates, hyphens and slashes for phone numbers) appear in the report preview, but there are NO NUMERALS! The dollar signs are at varying distances from the decimal points as if there are numbers there, but no numerals are visible.

The fields on the reports are all VISIBLE. As an experiment, I tried changing the background color to yellow and the text color to red for one of the text box objects in design mode. But when I preview the report, the format symbols are red but the background is still white, not yellow. I change the font weight to Bold and I see bold dollar signs and decimal points. I add a shadow border around the text box, but that doesn't show up in preview mode. I change the text alignment to Left, and all the dollar signs line up on the left...but still no numbers.

I've checked the query. All the numbers are there. Again, this is just for fields that have numerals in them. The names of the individuals are there in the report preview, just no numbers or dates or phone numbers (except for the formatting symbols).

What does this sound like to you?

Thanks,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI




From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 05:12:20 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 05:12:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cross posted - Folding@home
In-Reply-To: <001301c4a979$12b14180$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <001301c4a979$12b14180$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20041004051220.976313251.serbach@new.rr.com>

John,

>> http://folding.stanford.edu/ <<

Sounds similar to the seti at home project.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI




From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 05:14:57 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 05:14:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dear Group,

Some additional info on this: I suspect that it has something to do with the fact that Office 2000 Premium (w/Access) and Access Runtime 2000 have been installed and un-installed and re-installed on this system.

Moreover, anything on a report has numbers on it, even a street address, will appear without the numbers. Page x of y, a long-format date, etc.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI




From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Oct  4 07:58:10 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:58:10 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

Did you carefully look up the archive on this?
I faintly recall a similar situation.

/gustav


> Dear Group,

> Some additional info on this: I suspect that it has something to do with the fact that Office 2000 Premium (w/Access) and Access Runtime 2000 have been installed and un-installed and re-installed
> on this system.

> Moreover, anything on a report has numbers on it, even a street address, will appear without the numbers. Page x of y, a long-format date, etc.

> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI



From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Oct  4 08:01:48 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:01:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEOAKGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Steve,

  First thing I check is the regional settings in Windows.  If all look OK, change one of them, then change it back.  There was an old Windows bug related to this.  Might still be in XP.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steven W.
Erbach
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 3:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers


Dear Group,

I helped a friend get MS Office 2000 up and running on his PC yesterday after his PC vendor re-formatted the drive (virus infestation) and re-installed Windows XP Home w/SP2. This system also has a canned Access application that installs Access 2000 Runtime. I installed that AFTER I'd upgraded Office 2000 to SP3. That took a bit of trial and error. Whenever the Runtime install asked about overwriting existing DLLs I told it NO.

Now when my friend runs the Access applications that he uses (his wife runs the Access Runtime app), his reports come out funny. That is, for all the text boxes that contain numerals (phone numbers, dates, currency, other numbers), the FORMATTING of the data (e.g., parentheses around negatives, dollar signs and decimals for currency, slashes for dates, hyphens and slashes for phone numbers) appear in the report preview, but there are NO NUMERALS! The dollar signs are at varying distances from the decimal points as if there are numbers there, but no numerals are visible.

The fields on the reports are all VISIBLE. As an experiment, I tried changing the background color to yellow and the text color to red for one of the text box objects in design mode. But when I preview the report, the format symbols are red but the background is still white, not yellow. I change the font weight to Bold and I see bold dollar signs and decimal points. I add a shadow border around the text box, but that doesn't show up in preview mode. I change the text alignment to Left, and all the dollar signs line up on the left...but still no numbers.

I've checked the query. All the numbers are there. Again, this is just for fields that have numerals in them. The names of the individuals are there in the report preview, just no numbers or dates or phone numbers (except for the formatting symbols).

What does this sound like to you?

Thanks,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Mon Oct  4 08:56:25 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 08:56:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <000901c4a81a$9550c0d0$0200a8c0@COA3>
Message-ID: <PDEEKCIJDDJOJAKBJBLGEEBKCCAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I have to think the problems result from what type of use do the other
versions of Access get on the PC with runtime installed.

I have installed runtime on computers before and after Access 97 thru 02
were installed and never have had a problem.  However, these clients are not
using Access much (or if at all).  So I probably am not qualified to argue
either way on dll problems.

Now, concerning Illinois.  I can't vouch for how the Illini can handle such
issues.  But I know we, as Boilers, not Hoosiers, have very few problems.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steve Conklin
(Developer at UltraDNT)
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 7:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Is that a variation of "will it play in Peoria?"

I have seen Access RT's from 2.0 forward on OS's from 95 on in all its
variations, and it is damn-near flawless when there is no previous
Office installation.  *However* - if there is another Access version on
the PC, or might be in the future, use a  3rd party install tool.

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 6:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Hi Reuben,
But the big question is - does it work in Illinois?

;o)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


In my experience, the Access Runtime is installed in a folder with
RT(run
time) in the path.  This differentiates it from a standard Access
install.

I have never had any installation problems using Access Runtime and the
Package and Deployment wizard.  But, then again, I only have about 300
installs around the state of Indiana; maybe I haven't tried it enough
yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less
expensive. :(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll
see how that goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program.
SageKey is a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield
products to provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also
don't allow your application to get screwed up by having the wrong
version of Access already (or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it
comes to having a professional looking installation that actually works
on every PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts
down tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5
years now and can honestly say I have had little if any problem with
installations or version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for
the long run it pays for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access,
but a different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere
with their version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Mon Oct  4 09:24:40 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:24:40 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB797@nprdex02.nns.com>

"will it play in Peoria?"


I used to resemble that remark:)


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) [mailto:Developer at ultradnt.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 8:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Is that a variation of "will it play in Peoria?"

I have seen Access RT's from 2.0 forward on OS's from 95 on in all its
variations, and it is damn-near flawless when there is no previous
Office installation.  *However* - if there is another Access version on
the PC, or might be in the future, use a  3rd party install tool.

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 6:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Hi Reuben,
But the big question is - does it work in Illinois?

;o)

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


In my experience, the Access Runtime is installed in a folder with
RT(run
time) in the path.  This differentiates it from a standard Access
install.

I have never had any installation problems using Access Runtime and the
Package and Deployment wizard.  But, then again, I only have about 300
installs around the state of Indiana; maybe I haven't tried it enough
yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less
expensive. :(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll
see how that goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program.
SageKey is a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield
products to provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also
don't allow your application to get screwed up by having the wrong
version of Access already (or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it
comes to having a professional looking installation that actually works
on every PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts
down tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5
years now and can honestly say I have had little if any problem with
installations or version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for
the long run it pays for itself.

John

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access,
but a different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere
with their version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way 
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Mon Oct  4 10:21:56 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 11:21:56 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] LDB File, Orphaned Logins
Message-ID: <833956F5C117124A89417638FDB11290EBD2C7@goexchange.pghcorning.com>

Hello all,

I have a database that has been working for almost 2 years now with no
trouble.  It is split, with security.  Both BE and FE share same MDW file.
There have been no changes to this database for about a year.  Recently the
users are complaining about it becoming slow.  I looked into some things,
compressed and repair FE and BE.  Still no luck.  

I noticed that even though everyone was out of the database that there were
still LDB files (1 for BE and 1 for MDW) left on the server.  I opened them
in notepad and saw about 8 users still logged in, 5 of which were the same
person.  I tried to delete the LDB files, of which I got an error "cannot
delete file due to a sharing violation".  I have never had a corrupt
database or LDB file, I'm hoping this isn't my first as this is a fairly
large and complex database.  

Any help on how to clear these users out of the LDB File would be greatly
appreciated.  

Thanks,
Rich


From hoopesg at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  4 10:59:03 2004
From: hoopesg at hotmail.com (Gina Hoopes)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:59:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry
Message-ID: <BAY10-F5xYHLBQhExki00001686@hotmail.com>

I have a form set up to gather information about bank deposits. The user 
enters in all of one type of deposit, then needs to clear the form and start 
over for the next type of deposit. I hate to maker her close and repoen the 
form just to clear it out. I've got a procedure that archives all of the 
records to a history folder but I can't figure out how to keep the screen 
from showing #Deleted# in all of the fields once the table gets cleared out 
to accept the new deposit. I tried turning off the Echo but it didn't do a 
thing, and I've tried a Requery but no luck. For a couple of business-rule 
reasons I can't just put a new field in for "deposit type", we actually need 
to clear the table and process the data and give them a clean form for the 
next deposit. Can someone tell me where I'm screwing up?

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct  4 11:03:17 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:03:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

No, I think Win98 still had IE 2.x or 3.x.  Version 4 and later didn't
come along until later.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Murphy [mailto:dw-murphy at cox.net] 
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 10:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Rocky,

My understanding is that IE is present on all windows machines.  The
Access 2002 runtime will only work on Windows 98 and later operating
systems.  I belive that IE 4 or 5 came as part of Windows 98.  We have
had no issues with not installing IE with our package.

Doug

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Doug:

When you say it only requires IE4 does that mean that IE4 must be
present on the target machine?  What if it's not there?  What if they
have a later version?

TIA

Rocky

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> The downloadable version of the scripts, the one we use, only requires
> IE4 which should be on any machine that our software is put on.  This 
> script does not install IE.  If you use ADO library 2.6 you will need 
> to use the
CD
> version of the scripts and it does load IE which includes MDAC 2.6.  I
> suspect the CD version of the scripts includes both packages.
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 12:59 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Doug:
>
> Thanks.  Is that a switchable option (the IE thing) or do you have to
> buy
it
> like that?
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:56 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> > Rocky,
> >
> > We are using Wise and Sagekey for our Access 2002 install. The
> > installer file overhead is 40M, which includes all the MS runtime 
> > stuff.  I user the Sagekey script that does not install Internet 
> > Explorer.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> > Smolin - Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> run-time
> > of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about
> > 6MB
> but
> > I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does
> > the installable file end up being?
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct  4 11:09:24 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:09:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along with
the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some custom
libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything fits
nicely on a CD.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Dear List:

Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only
about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How
big does the installable file end up being?

MTIA

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Oct  4 11:26:12 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:26:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry
In-Reply-To: <BAY10-F5xYHLBQhExki00001686@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c4aa2e$e11761c0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Just put a me.requery in the afterdelete method.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gina Hoopes
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:59 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry


I have a form set up to gather information about bank deposits. The user 
enters in all of one type of deposit, then needs to clear the form and start

over for the next type of deposit. I hate to maker her close and repoen the 
form just to clear it out. I've got a procedure that archives all of the 
records to a history folder but I can't figure out how to keep the screen 
from showing #Deleted# in all of the fields once the table gets cleared out 
to accept the new deposit. I tried turning off the Echo but it didn't do a 
thing, and I've tried a Requery but no luck. For a couple of business-rule 
reasons I can't just put a new field in for "deposit type", we actually need

to clear the table and process the data and give them a clean form for the 
next deposit. Can someone tell me where I'm screwing up?

Thanks,
Gina

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 11:28:36 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:28:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry
References: <BAY10-F5xYHLBQhExki00001686@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <017701c4aa2f$330ea880$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Gina:

If it's a bound form can't you just GoTo acNewRecord after the data in the
form is saved?

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


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From: "Gina Hoopes" <hoopesg at hotmail.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 8:59 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry


> I have a form set up to gather information about bank deposits. The user
> enters in all of one type of deposit, then needs to clear the form and
start
> over for the next type of deposit. I hate to maker her close and repoen
the
> form just to clear it out. I've got a procedure that archives all of the
> records to a history folder but I can't figure out how to keep the screen
> from showing #Deleted# in all of the fields once the table gets cleared
out
> to accept the new deposit. I tried turning off the Echo but it didn't do a
> thing, and I've tried a Requery but no luck. For a couple of business-rule
> reasons I can't just put a new field in for "deposit type", we actually
need
> to clear the table and process the data and give them a clean form for the
> next deposit. Can someone tell me where I'm screwing up?
>
> Thanks,
> Gina
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Oct  4 11:29:35 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 18:29:35 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry
In-Reply-To: <BAY10-F5xYHLBQhExki00001686@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY10-F5xYHLBQhExki00001686@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3234679676.20041004182935@cactus.dk>

Hi Gina

Try:

    With Me
      .Painting = False
      ' run your clean up code.
      .Requery
      .Painting = True
    End With

/gustav


> I have a form set up to gather information about bank deposits. The user 
> enters in all of one type of deposit, then needs to clear the form and start 
> over for the next type of deposit. I hate to maker her close and repoen the 
> form just to clear it out. I've got a procedure that archives all of the 
> records to a history folder but I can't figure out how to keep the screen 
> from showing #Deleted# in all of the fields once the table gets cleared out 
> to accept the new deposit. I tried turning off the Echo but it didn't do a 
> thing, and I've tried a Requery but no luck. For a couple of business-rule 
> reasons I can't just put a new field in for "deposit type", we actually need 
> to clear the table and process the data and give them a clean form for the 
> next deposit. Can someone tell me where I'm screwing up?



From hoopesg at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  4 11:45:47 2004
From: hoopesg at hotmail.com (Gina Hoopes)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:45:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry
Message-ID: <BAY10-F56XSXCWV8S0g0002a586@hotmail.com>

Perfect! Thanks, Gustav!

Gina

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry

Hi Gina

Try:

     With Me
       .Painting = False
       ' run your clean up code.
       .Requery
       .Painting = True
     End With

/gustav


 > I have a form set up to gather information about bank deposits. The
 > user enters in all of one type of deposit, then needs to clear the
 > form and start over for the next type of deposit. I hate to maker her
 > close and repoen the form just to clear it out. I've got a procedure
 > that archives all of the records to a history folder but I can't
 > figure out how to keep the screen from showing #Deleted# in all of the

 > fields once the table gets cleared out to accept the new deposit. I
 > tried turning off the Echo but it didn't do a thing, and I've tried a
 > Requery but no luck. For a couple of business-rule reasons I can't
 > just put a new field in for "deposit type", we actually need to clear
 > the table and process the data and give them a clean form for the next
deposit. Can someone tell me where I'm screwing up?

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From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 12:10:06 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:10:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041004121006.1004197457.serbach@new.rr.com>

Gustav,

Well, I've asked a few questinos of the archives, but I get messages dealing with page numbering and text box length. I tried "invisible number" and got a lot of messages with the word "invisible" in them. How careful should I be?

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


> ------------Original Message------------
> From: Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Date: Mon, Oct-4-2004 8:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
> 
> Hi Steven
> 
> Did you carefully look up the archive on this?
> I faintly recall a similar situation.
> 
> /gustav
> 
>




From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 12:11:09 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:11:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEOAKGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEOAKGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20041004121109.1122793450.serbach@new.rr.com>

Jim,

I did look at the Regional Settings but I didn't change any of them. Worth a shot. Thanks. I'll pass it along to my friend.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI




From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Mon Oct  4 12:53:17 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:53:17 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] LDB File, Orphaned Logins (Resolved)
Message-ID: <833956F5C117124A89417638FDB11290EBD2C9@goexchange.pghcorning.com>

Well I walked over to the network administrator and ask if he could reboot
the server for me, as I remembered reading somewhere some time ago (can't
remember where) that sometimes you may need to reboot the machine to delete
the LDB file.  In doing so, he opened his Active Directory User Interface
and went to the server in question.  He looked to see who was logged in,
then he went into Sessions, there he could see every file that everyone is
using.  At the top of the list were all my users (including the one with 5
sessions running against the same LDB and MDW file).  I ask him if he could
manually close these files and said only if I know they weren't using them.
I knew everyone was out of the system because of the problem so we did it.  
I ask a user to log in and out to give the database a chance to clean up its
own LDB files and sure enough it did.  And the speed is back to what it
should be.  

I don't know if I stumbled upon anything in looking at the sessions of a
server but it might be worth noting for anyone out there that has an issue
with Orphaned users in LDB file.

Thanks for all who responded,

Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: Lavsa, Rich [mailto:Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:22 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] LDB File, Orphaned Logins


Hello all,

I have a database that has been working for almost 2 years now with no
trouble.  It is split, with security.  Both BE and FE share same MDW file.
There have been no changes to this database for about a year.  Recently the
users are complaining about it becoming slow.  I looked into some things,
compressed and repair FE and BE.  Still no luck.  

I noticed that even though everyone was out of the database that there were
still LDB files (1 for BE and 1 for MDW) left on the server.  I opened them
in notepad and saw about 8 users still logged in, 5 of which were the same
person.  I tried to delete the LDB files, of which I got an error "cannot
delete file due to a sharing violation".  I have never had a corrupt
database or LDB file, I'm hoping this isn't my first as this is a fairly
large and complex database.  

Any help on how to clear these users out of the LDB File would be greatly
appreciated.  

Thanks,
Rich
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From Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil  Mon Oct  4 11:43:54 2004
From: Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil (Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:43:54 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <BA5DA1A16B16DB41A9A145E7A062C68A0AC2@ahrc01b1e0151.hoffman.army.mil>

With Access 97, Wise InstallBuilder 8.1, using Sagekey's script for Access
97, I have one application who's files add up to 5.09MB that is turned into
a 10.6 MB installation file. 

Christian Brock



-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Saturday, 02 October 2004 09:48
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Dear List:

Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable run-time
of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 6MB but
I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does the
installable file end up being?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Oct  4 13:33:55 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:33:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
In-Reply-To: <BA5DA1A16B16DB41A9A145E7A062C68A0AC2@ahrc01b1e0151.hoffman.army.mil>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIAEDBGAAA.john@winhaven.net>

Hi Christian,
Just an FYI.

I recently upgraded my Wise InstallBuilder 8.1 to Wise Installation System 9
for a VERY reasonable price. Don't know if they're still offering it but its
worth a check.

HTH
John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brock,
Christian T, HRC-Alexandria
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


With Access 97, Wise InstallBuilder 8.1, using Sagekey's script for Access
97, I have one application who's files add up to 5.09MB that is turned into
a 10.6 MB installation file.

Christian Brock



-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Saturday, 02 October 2004 09:48
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Dear List:

Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable run-time
of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 6MB but
I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does the
installable file end up being?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 14:06:45 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:06:45 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <020301c4aa45$4af12700$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Charlotte:

I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder Analysis
program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.  And
it would probably be available as a download from our website.

Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is Access?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along with
> the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some custom
> libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything fits
> nicely on a CD.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only
> about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How
> big does the installable file end up being?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct  4 15:01:06 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:01:06 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86651A8D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The Access XP runtime is big.  It installs to about an uncompressed 20
Mb of files.  Perhaps a quarter of our installer is the application
files themselves, so say 15 Mb.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 12:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Charlotte:

I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder Analysis
program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.
And it would probably be available as a download from our website.

Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is Access?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along 
> with the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some 
> custom libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything 
> fits nicely on a CD.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable 
> run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is 
> only about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged 
> along.  How big does the installable file end up being?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct  4 15:03:48 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:03:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I think I'm the one missing things!  Somewhere along the way, probably
in the switch from Access Basic to VBA, that seems to have changed.  I
think I would create a messagebox class and have it pass the app title
as the default title to the actual function if I wanted to avoid having
to supply it myself.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 3:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


Hi Charlotte et all

This property didn't exist if this is what you are referring to:

  CurrentProject.Properties("AppTitle")

But adding it and setting its value to "MyTitle" doesn't make any
difference to the default MsgBox title.

/gustav


> Hi Charlotte

> Thanks. The only problem is that it doesn't work ...

> In the debug window:

> ? Currentdb.Properties("AppTitle").Value
> MyTitle

> Still, the title of a messagebox:

>   Msgbox "Test"

> is "Microsoft Access" and not "MyTitle".

> I have done a title bar refresh and even a relaunch with no luck. What

> am I missing?

> /gustav


>> It picks up the AppTitle property as the default.  So if your 
>> AppTitle isn't set, you get Microsoft Access as the msgbox title 
>> unless you override it with a title string argument.

>> Charlotte Foust


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:42 AM
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


>> Hi all

>> Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
>> have to set it each and everywhere?

>> I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?

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From marcus at tsstech.com  Mon Oct  4 16:18:22 2004
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 17:18:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D339E1F@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

<<I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder
Analysis program to people without Access.

Now that's a lot of people. VBG
Aer you hoping that the Analysis program puts them to sleep? <Huge Grin>


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey

Charlotte:

I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder Analysis
program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.
And it would probably be available as a download from our website.

Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is Access?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along
with
> the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some custom
> libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything fits
> nicely on a CD.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is
only
> about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.
How
> big does the installable file end up being?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> -- 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 16:44:25 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:44:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86651A8D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <032201c4aa5b$51c61b60$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Well, overhead of 20 ain't too bad.  Our app is only about 3-4MB and there's
no ocx files, MDAC, none of that stuff.  Just real plain vanilla Access.
Oh, yeah, DAO.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> The Access XP runtime is big.  It installs to about an uncompressed 20
> Mb of files.  Perhaps a quarter of our installer is the application
> files themselves, so say 15 Mb.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 12:07 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Charlotte:
>
> I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder Analysis
> program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.
> And it would probably be available as a download from our website.
>
> Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is Access?
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> > Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along
> > with the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some
> > custom libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything
> > fits nicely on a CD.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> > run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is
> > only about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged
> > along.  How big does the installable file end up being?
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
> > --
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 16:45:10 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:45:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
References: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D339E1F@2003exchg.TSS.AD>
Message-ID: <032801c4aa5b$6c93d4f0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

If it does then they're cured, and we move from Analysis to treatment.

How are YOU sleeping these days?

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Marcus" <marcus at tsstech.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> <<I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder
> Analysis program to people without Access.
>
> Now that's a lot of people. VBG
> Aer you hoping that the Analysis program puts them to sleep? <Huge Grin>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 3:07 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
> Charlotte:
>
> I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder Analysis
> program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.
> And it would probably be available as a download from our website.
>
> Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is Access?
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> > Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along
> with
> > the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some custom
> > libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything fits
> > nicely on a CD.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> > run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is
> only
> > about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.
> How
> > big does the installable file end up being?
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
> > -- 
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 16:46:05 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:46:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FOR JOE HECHT Fw: Returned mail: see transcript for
	details
Message-ID: <034301c4aa5b$8d22f200$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Joe:

I tried to send you a Sleep Doctor but got this back.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mail Delivery Subsystem" <MAILER-DAEMON at ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com>
To: <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:28 PM
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details


> The original message was received at Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:28:07 -0700 (PDT)
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>
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>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct  4 16:47:51 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:47:51 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If they still can't sleep, someone can drop the installer on their
heads! LOL

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Marcus [mailto:marcus at tsstech.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


<<I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder
Analysis program to people without Access.

Now that's a lot of people. VBG
Aer you hoping that the Analysis program puts them to sleep? <Huge Grin>


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey

Charlotte:

I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder Analysis
program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.
And it would probably be available as a download from our website.

Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is Access?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along
with
> the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some custom 
> libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything fits 
> nicely on a CD.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable 
> run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is
only
> about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.
How
> big does the installable file end up being?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> --
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Oct  4 17:43:08 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (dw-murphy at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 18:43:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <20041004224308.CZLJ29837.fed1rmmtao12.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

Could be but the info I have indicates that V4 came out during the Windows 95 era and was part of Windows 98.
> 
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> Date: 2004/10/04 Mon PM 12:03:17 EDT
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> 	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> 
> No, I think Win98 still had IE 2.x or 3.x.  Version 4 and later didn't
> come along until later.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Murphy [mailto:dw-murphy at cox.net] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 10:38 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> 
> 
> Rocky,
> 
> My understanding is that IE is present on all windows machines.  The
> Access 2002 runtime will only work on Windows 98 and later operating
> systems.  I belive that IE 4 or 5 came as part of Windows 98.  We have
> had no issues with not installing IE with our package.
> 
> Doug
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 5:21 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> 
> 
> Doug:
> 
> When you say it only requires IE4 does that mean that IE4 must be
> present on the target machine?  What if it's not there?  What if they
> have a later version?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Rocky
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 1:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> 
> 
> > The downloadable version of the scripts, the one we use, only requires
> > IE4 which should be on any machine that our software is put on.  This 
> > script does not install IE.  If you use ADO library 2.6 you will need 
> > to use the
> CD
> > version of the scripts and it does load IE which includes MDAC 2.6.  I
> > suspect the CD version of the scripts includes both packages.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> > Smolin - Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 12:59 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > Doug:
> >
> > Thanks.  Is that a switchable option (the IE thing) or do you have to
> > buy
> it
> > like that?
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:56 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > > Rocky,
> > >
> > > We are using Wise and Sagekey for our Access 2002 install. The
> > > installer file overhead is 40M, which includes all the MS runtime 
> > > stuff.  I user the Sagekey script that does not install Internet 
> > > Explorer.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> > > Smolin - Beach Access Software
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear List:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> > run-time
> > > of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about
> > > 6MB
> > but
> > > I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does
> > > the installable file end up being?
> > >
> > > MTIA
> > >
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> >
> > --
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> > --
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> 
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Oct  4 17:53:45 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (dw-murphy at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 18:53:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <20041004225345.CQL24687.fed1rmmtao05.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

Rocky,

I may have missed the message that said what version of Access you are using.  If your using XP or 3003 I think your package is going to be 50 meg or larger.

Doug
> 
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> Date: 2004/10/04 Mon PM 05:44:25 EDT
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> 	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> 
> Well, overhead of 20 ain't too bad.  Our app is only about 3-4MB and there's
> no ocx files, MDAC, none of that stuff.  Just real plain vanilla Access.
> Oh, yeah, DAO.
> 
> Rocky
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 1:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> 
> 
> > The Access XP runtime is big.  It installs to about an uncompressed 20
> > Mb of files.  Perhaps a quarter of our installer is the application
> > files themselves, so say 15 Mb.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 12:07 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > Charlotte:
> >
> > I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder Analysis
> > program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.
> > And it would probably be available as a download from our website.
> >
> > Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is Access?
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > > Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along
> > > with the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some
> > > custom libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything
> > > fits nicely on a CD.
> > >
> > > Charlotte Foust
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear List:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> > > run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is
> > > only about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged
> > > along.  How big does the installable file end up being?
> > >
> > > MTIA
> > >
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > -- 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> >
> > -- 
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > -- 
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> 
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> 



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 20:40:48 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 18:40:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
References: <20041004225345.CQL24687.fed1rmmtao05.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>
Message-ID: <036601c4aa7c$5765ea20$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Doug:

I'm using A2K.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dw-murphy at cox.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> Rocky,
>
> I may have missed the message that said what version of Access you are
using.  If your using XP or 3003 I think your package is going to be 50 meg
or larger.
>
> Doug
> >
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > Date: 2004/10/04 Mon PM 05:44:25 EDT
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> > Well, overhead of 20 ain't too bad.  Our app is only about 3-4MB and
there's
> > no ocx files, MDAC, none of that stuff.  Just real plain vanilla Access.
> > Oh, yeah, DAO.
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 1:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > > The Access XP runtime is big.  It installs to about an uncompressed 20
> > > Mb of files.  Perhaps a quarter of our installer is the application
> > > files themselves, so say 15 Mb.
> > >
> > > Charlotte Foust
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 12:07 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> > >
> > >
> > > Charlotte:
> > >
> > > I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder
Analysis
> > > program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.
> > > And it would probably be available as a download from our website.
> > >
> > > Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is
Access?
> > >
> > > Rocky
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along
> > > > with the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some
> > > > custom libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.
Everything
> > > > fits nicely on a CD.
> > > >
> > > > Charlotte Foust
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
[mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear List:
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> > > > run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is
> > > > only about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged
> > > > along.  How big does the installable file end up being?
> > > >
> > > > MTIA
> > > >
> > > > Rocky Smolin
> > > > Beach Access Software
> > > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > AccessD mailing list
> > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > -- 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > AccessD mailing list
> > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > >
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > -- 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> >
> > -- 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
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>



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Oct  5 00:13:52 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 22:13:52 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FOR JOE HECHT Fw: Returned mail: see transcript
	fordetails
In-Reply-To: <034301c4aa5b$8d22f200$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <200410050513.i955DfL06830@databaseadvisors.com>

Where did the % sign come from? The address is right except for %.

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:46 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] FOR JOE HECHT Fw: Returned mail: see transcript
fordetails

Joe:

I tried to send you a Sleep Doctor but got this back.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:28 PM
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details


> The original message was received at Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:28:07 -0700 (PDT)
> from 24-25-217-158.san.rr.com [24.25.217.158]
>
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>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct  5 05:32:43 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 12:32:43 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <7912699991.20041005123243@cactus.dk>

Hi Charlotte

OK, thanks. Then I guess it's time to bury this dog.
I'll stick to my global variable ...

/gustav


> I think I'm the one missing things!  Somewhere along the way, probably
> in the switch from Access Basic to VBA, that seems to have changed.  I
> think I would create a messagebox class and have it pass the app title
> as the default title to the actual function if I wanted to avoid having
> to supply it myself.

> Charlotte Foust


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 3:28 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


> Hi Charlotte et all

> This property didn't exist if this is what you are referring to:

>   CurrentProject.Properties("AppTitle")

> But adding it and setting its value to "MyTitle" doesn't make any
> difference to the default MsgBox title.

> /gustav


>> Hi Charlotte

>> Thanks. The only problem is that it doesn't work ...

>> In the debug window:

>> ? Currentdb.Properties("AppTitle").Value
>> MyTitle

>> Still, the title of a messagebox:

>>   Msgbox "Test"

>> is "Microsoft Access" and not "MyTitle".

>> I have done a title bar refresh and even a relaunch with no luck. What

>> am I missing?

>> /gustav


>>> It picks up the AppTitle property as the default.  So if your 
>>> AppTitle isn't set, you get Microsoft Access as the msgbox title 
>>> unless you override it with a title string argument.

>>> Charlotte Foust


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
>>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:42 AM
>>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>> Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


>>> Hi all

>>> Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
>>> have to set it each and everywhere?

>>> I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct  5 05:40:50 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 12:40:50 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <20041004121006.1004197457.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>
	<20041004121006.1004197457.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4813187803.20041005124050@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

Well, it's up to your fantasy!
How about "dissappear"?

However, I my recall incorrectly.

/gustav


> Gustav,

> Well, I've asked a few questinos of the archives, but I get messages dealing with page numbering and text box length. I tried "invisible number" and got a lot of messages with the word "invisible"
> in them. How careful should I be?

> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI


>> ------------Original Message------------
>> From: Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Date: Mon, Oct-4-2004 8:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
>> 
>> Hi Steven
>> 
>> Did you carefully look up the archive on this?
>> I faintly recall a similar situation.
>> 
>> /gustav



From john at winhaven.net  Tue Oct  5 08:25:44 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:25:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] x-posted XP SP2 on CD
Message-ID: <NGBBLIECOMAKBPEDMKEJKELLHPAA.john@winhaven.net>

For those that haven't installed it yet, you can get XP SP2 on CD:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/defau
lt.mspx?urlID=425822449




From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Oct  5 09:41:50 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue,  5 Oct 2004 16:41:50 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off
Message-ID: <26402479.1096987310101.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>

To all,
Believe it or not I have used Access for a few years now, and have only just started using the custom menu bars.  I have a MenuBar called B&Q, which in turn has three menus on it (File Options, Edit Options, Report Options), which in turn have options that the user can select.
Does anyone have any sample code or can tell me where to get some sample code on turning the various options on/off
Thanks in advance for all your help
Paul Hartland

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct  5 10:17:30 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:17:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

What do you mean by "turning the various options on/off"?  Are you
asking about disabling some of the items on the menus?  If so, what are
the conditions involved?

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 7:42 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off


To all,
Believe it or not I have used Access for a few years now, and have only
just started using the custom menu bars.  I have a MenuBar called B&Q,
which in turn has three menus on it (File Options, Edit Options, Report
Options), which in turn have options that the user can select. Does
anyone have any sample code or can tell me where to get some sample code
on turning the various options on/off Thanks in advance for all your
help Paul Hartland

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Oct  5 10:25:06 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 11:25:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA309C4AE1@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB8BC@ADGSERVER>

Paul,

Here is some example code for you:

   With CommandBars("Wrap Reports/Utils")
      .Controls("Letters").Enabled = bTF
      .Controls("Reports").Enabled = bTF
      With .Controls("Utilities")
         .Controls("Certificate Default Values").Enabled = bTF
         .Controls("Conversion Log").Enabled = bTF
         .Controls("Coverages").Enabled = bTF
         End With
	end with

The name of the command bar is "Wrap Reports/Utils".  There is a sub menu
named "Utilities".

You could use something like:
CommandBars("Wrap
Reports/Utils").Controls("Utilities").Controls("Coverages").Enabled = true

You should also be able to set visible instead of the enabled as shown here.

The code is in a function that is passed a boolean.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:42 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off


To all,
Believe it or not I have used Access for a few years now, and have only just
started using the custom menu bars.  I have a MenuBar called B&Q, which in
turn has three menus on it (File Options, Edit Options, Report Options),
which in turn have options that the user can select. Does anyone have any
sample code or can tell me where to get some sample code on turning the
various options on/off Thanks in advance for all your help Paul Hartland




From awithing at twcny.rr.com  Tue Oct  5 15:00:19 2004
From: awithing at twcny.rr.com (augusta)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:00:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
In-Reply-To: <200409111553.i8BFr8630653@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200410052000.i95K0LIi029282@ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com>

I need to know how to make a field required if another field is checked. For
example: If the contributions are restricted, then fill in the restricted
reason.

Can anyone help  - in plain English?

Thanks Augusta





From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Oct  5 15:45:06 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:45:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
In-Reply-To: <200410052000.i95K0LIi029282@ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <002101c4ab1c$32b0ad50$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Are you a programmer?  

In plain VB, in OnClick of the checkbox, check if the box is checked or
unchecked.  If checked, place the cursor in the text box and open a message
box or some such.  If unchecked, clear out the text box.  You would want to
also do things like disable the text box unless the check box is checked
etc, or alternately if the text box has something entered, then check the
check box.  

This is in fact a facet of normalization where you have the same information
stored in more than one place.  The check box stores the fact that
contributions are restricted, but the simple fact that something is in the
text box stores the fact that contributions are restricted.  You don't need
the check box at all, it is a convenience which  raises ugly issues such as
how to keep the two controls in sync.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of augusta
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked


I need to know how to make a field required if another field is checked. For
example: If the contributions are restricted, then fill in the restricted
reason.

Can anyone help  - in plain English?

Thanks Augusta



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From JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com  Tue Oct  5 15:59:25 2004
From: JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com (JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:59:25 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] x-posted XP SP2 on CD
Message-ID: <103.516a61e0.2e94652d@aol.com>

does anyone known address of Office XP SP3 on a CD ? In this neck of  the 
woods it will take over 5 hours to DL it.
 
TIA johnb


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Oct  5 16:10:38 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:10:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
In-Reply-To: <19865371.1097009804340.JavaMail.root@sniper2.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <004f01c4ab1f$c3ca7de0$de1811d8@danwaters>

However, it could be that someone or the system determines the requirement
for the text box to be filled in, and then someone else fills in the text
information.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 3:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked

Are you a programmer?  

In plain VB, in OnClick of the checkbox, check if the box is checked or
unchecked.  If checked, place the cursor in the text box and open a message
box or some such.  If unchecked, clear out the text box.  You would want to
also do things like disable the text box unless the check box is checked
etc, or alternately if the text box has something entered, then check the
check box.  

This is in fact a facet of normalization where you have the same information
stored in more than one place.  The check box stores the fact that
contributions are restricted, but the simple fact that something is in the
text box stores the fact that contributions are restricted.  You don't need
the check box at all, it is a convenience which  raises ugly issues such as
how to keep the two controls in sync.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of augusta
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked


I need to know how to make a field required if another field is checked. For
example: If the contributions are restricted, then fill in the restricted
reason.

Can anyone help  - in plain English?

Thanks Augusta



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From awithing at twcny.rr.com  Tue Oct  5 16:36:47 2004
From: awithing at twcny.rr.com (withington)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:36:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
In-Reply-To: <002101c4ab1c$32b0ad50$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <002101c4ab1c$32b0ad50$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <416313EF.1010003@twcny.rr.com>

John W. Colby wrote:

>Are you a programmer?  
>  
>

no I am far from it. I wish that I were, but too many things to learn! 
However, I have deceided that I need to learn more about Access and it 
"power". So I think that I need a more detailed explaination?

I think that the user would like to be able to check the box first

>In plain VB, in OnClick of the checkbox, check if the box is checked or
>unchecked.  If checked, place the cursor in the text box and open a message
>box or some such.  If unchecked, clear out the text box.  You would want to
>also do things like disable the text box unless the check box is checked
>etc, or alternately if the text box has something entered, then check the
>check box.  
>
>This is in fact a facet of normalization where you have the same information
>stored in more than one place.  The check box stores the fact that
>contributions are restricted, but the simple fact that something is in the
>text box stores the fact that contributions are restricted.  You don't need
>the check box at all, it is a convenience which  raises ugly issues such as
>how to keep the two controls in sync.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of augusta
>Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:00 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
>
>
>I need to know how to make a field required if another field is checked. For
>example: If the contributions are restricted, then fill in the restricted
>reason.
>
>Can anyone help  - in plain English?
>
>Thanks Augusta
>
>
>
>  
>



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Oct  5 16:56:06 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:56:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
In-Reply-To: <004f01c4ab1f$c3ca7de0$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <002301c4ab26$21df0f30$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

That's true, but doesn't negate the fact that it is duplication of
information.  I stated that it is a convenience.  The text box could be
filled with a code to indicate that it needed to be filled in or something.
Normalization is about storing info in one place so that multiple locations
don't have to be kept in sync.  

This is a rather classic case where two places have to be kept in sync.  If
the check box is checked, then the text box has to be filled else the text
box has to be cleared.  Assuming that the check box is used somewhere (in
queries etc) then if the text box is filled, the check box has to be filled.
And so you chase your tail.  I am not making a judgment as to whether it is
a necessity, simply stating a fact that this is the case and if it is
possible to get rid of the duplication, life is usually simpler.

I also answered the original question about how to attempt to keep them in
sync, and some issues perhaps not considered.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 5:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked


However, it could be that someone or the system determines the requirement
for the text box to be filled in, and then someone else fills in the text
information.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 3:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked

Are you a programmer?  

In plain VB, in OnClick of the checkbox, check if the box is checked or
unchecked.  If checked, place the cursor in the text box and open a message
box or some such.  If unchecked, clear out the text box.  You would want to
also do things like disable the text box unless the check box is checked
etc, or alternately if the text box has something entered, then check the
check box.  

This is in fact a facet of normalization where you have the same information
stored in more than one place.  The check box stores the fact that
contributions are restricted, but the simple fact that something is in the
text box stores the fact that contributions are restricted.  You don't need
the check box at all, it is a convenience which  raises ugly issues such as
how to keep the two controls in sync.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of augusta
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked


I need to know how to make a field required if another field is checked. For
example: If the contributions are restricted, then fill in the restricted
reason.

Can anyone help  - in plain English?

Thanks Augusta




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Oct  5 17:08:49 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 08:08:49 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
In-Reply-To: <200410052000.i95K0LIi029282@ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com>
References: <200409111553.i8BFr8630653@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4163A811.475.18CCDCD6@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 5 Oct 2004 at 16:00, augusta wrote:

> I need to know how to make a field required if another field is checked. For
> example: If the contributions are restricted, then fill in the restricted
> reason.
> 
> Can anyone help  - in plain English?
> 
It's called "validation"  :-)

In your from's Before_Update event procedure, you need to do something 
like:

If  Resricted = True and isnull(Reason) then
   Msgbox "You must give a reason for restricting contributions"
   Cancel = True
   Me.Restricted.SetFocus   
End if






-- 
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Oct  6 03:01:12 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed,  6 Oct 2004 10:01:12 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off
Message-ID: <16596521.1097049672382.JavaMail.www@wwinf3005>

Yes sorry I mean the various menu options, the main one is when a person opens the application if a store code isn't in the table, then I want to disable everything except Select Store Code and Exit Application
Paul





Message date : Oct 05 2004, 04:18 PM
>From : "Charlotte Foust" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off
What do you mean by "turning the various options on/off"? Are you
asking about disabling some of the items on the menus? If so, what are
the conditions involved?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 7:42 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off


To all,
Believe it or not I have used Access for a few years now, and have only
just started using the custom menu bars. I have a MenuBar called B&Q,
which in turn has three menus on it (File Options, Edit Options, Report
Options), which in turn have options that the user can select. Does
anyone have any sample code or can tell me where to get some sample code
on turning the various options on/off Thanks in advance for all your
help Paul Hartland

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From davide at dalyn.co.nz  Wed Oct  6 05:02:13 2004
From: davide at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:02:13 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Graphic Does Not Show On Another Machine
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20041006230132.01a3cb10@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

A97 runtime.

I have a similar problem with a WXP computer that is not showing JPG 
graphics in a report.  The computer doesn't seem to have the C:\Program 
Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Grphflt\MS.JPG file installed.  Is it a 
simple matter of copying the file into the folder, or does some sort of 
installation need to take place?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348

At 24/07/2004, you wrote:
>I assume you are just storing the path name of the file.
>and doing something like
>Me.Picture="C:\image\myimage.jpg"
>
>This gets messy because the defaults are not explained by MS
>They assume you have a full office install when running Access.
>
>There are a series of graphic filters that are installed by various MS
>Products.
>MS Access ODE installs a lot with a full install but not MS Access
>Standard, MS Word also installs a lot of these filters.
>These will affect what is displayed in an image or picture control.
>Sometimes just changing the file extension from jpeg to jpg will allow
>display. Just installing MS Word may allow you access to these filters
>or a full install of the ODE
>Most are found at least in WinXP in the following directory.
>C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Grphflt
>
>
>
>  In addition to these filters, use depends on OLE servers installed.
>
>See these urls for more info
>
>  Forms: Displaying photos in a form
>http://www.mvps.org/access/forms/frm0044.htm
>Lebans  using intel library
>http://www.lebans.com/loadsavejpeg.htm
>Lebans Image transparancy
>http://www.lebans.com/image_faq.htm
>  function to allow for the Display of Jpeg and Gif files on systems that
>do not have the Office Graphic Filters installed.
>  TIF and PNG formats are now supported via the Microsoft GDI+ DLL. The
>GDI+ DLL is freely redistributable and available directly from MS here
>http://www.lebans.com/loadjpeggif.htm
>
>JPEG File Interchange Format File
>The JPEG graphics filter (Jpegim32.flt) supports version 6.0 of the JPEG
>File Interchange Format (JFIF). You must have the JPEG filter installed to
>insert a .jpg file into a Word document as a Microsoft Clip Gallery object
>or a Photo Editor object. However, to insert a .jpg file directly into a
>Word document, you do not need the JPEG filter. The filter supports cyan-
>magenta-yellow-black (CMYK) JPEG files.
>
>The JPEG filter has the following limitation:
>The filter does not support JPEG Tagged Interchange Format (JTIF) files.
>
>On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:04:16 -0500, Jantz, Mathias
><MathiasJ at FIRSTPENN.COM> wrote:
>
> >I have a database that stores pictures (.jpg) in a field of a table.
> >
> >On my machine, the picture works fine.
> >
> >On another's machine, it just show the name of the image (imageName.jpg)
> >in both the form and the report.
> >
> >Could there be something that was not installed on that machine?
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >Mathias



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct  6 07:06:21 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:06:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
Message-ID: <20041006120628.LJRO1790.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Do any of you use the Error Handler Add-in? I'm curious -- I'll be writing
about it and I'd like to know if anybody likes it. 
 
Susan H. 


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Oct  6 07:35:10 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:35:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA309C4D33@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB8C7@ADGSERVER>

I don't use one, but I would like to.  :-)

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 8:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in


Do any of you use the Error Handler Add-in? I'm curious -- I'll be writing
about it and I'd like to know if anybody likes it. 
 
Susan H. 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct  6 08:01:43 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:01:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB8C7@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <20041006130145.HCSE1718.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, I can't even find the thing in 2003 -- there use to be one in earlier
versions -- it came with the developer version I think. It's easy to use --
so I'm curious if anyone actually uses it. 

It's one of the more frustrating things about 2003. I can't find anything.
;( So, if it doesn't even come with 2003 -- kind of a moot topic. 

Susan H. 

I don't use one, but I would like to.  :-)

Bobby

Do any of you use the Error Handler Add-in? I'm curious -- I'll be writing
about it and I'd like to know if anybody likes it. 
 



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Oct  6 08:19:00 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 06:19:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
References: <20041006120628.LJRO1790.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <006201c4aba7$0b52f250$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Colby has one on his web site that I've used.

Rocky

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Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in


> Do any of you use the Error Handler Add-in? I'm curious -- I'll be writing
> about it and I'd like to know if anybody likes it.
>
> Susan H.
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct  6 08:32:23 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:32:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <006201c4aba7$0b52f250$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <20041006133224.SGNR1792.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I need to use the one that comes with Access -- or at least use to. ;( 

Susan H. 

Colby has one on his web site that I've used.




From billmorrill at comcast.net  Wed Oct  6 09:19:51 2004
From: billmorrill at comcast.net (billmorrill at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 14:19:51 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
Message-ID: <100620041419.19850.4163FF07000CAFBD00004D8A22007354460404079D9D01030404070D@comcast.net>

No Addin required if you do the following: 

I use Insert File on the VBE Menu.  I created my own template with.txt extension and store it in My Documents folder.  To use it I just do Insert File and pull in the template.  In the template there is a Select Case statement to isolate the number.  Also, there is a little note that says Code goes here.  It works great and it's customized. 

Bill M.


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> Do any of you use the Error Handler Add-in? I'm curious -- I'll be writing 
> about it and I'd like to know if anybody likes it. 
> 
> Susan H. 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Oct  6 09:25:04 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:25:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
Message-ID: <20041006142501.B3863253349@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

When you say earlier versions Susan, which do you mean? I still use
primarily (ok, totally) A97 and don't know of or see an Error Handler
Add-in.
--
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Date: 06/10/04 13:36

>
> I need to use the one that comes with Access -- or at least use to. ;(
>
> Susan H.
>
> Colby has one on his web site that I've used.
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct  6 09:27:25 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:27:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <20041006142501.B3863253349@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20041006142730.KBCK1756.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Andy --  it may not have been included until 2000 -- I'm pretty sure it's in
2000 and XP. 

Susan H. 

When you say earlier versions Susan, which do you mean? I still use
primarily (ok, totally) A97 and don't know of or see an Error Handler
Add-in.



From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Oct  6 09:31:34 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:31:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BBF@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


I use 2000, I don't' see it.  
Where is it located?
Jim H.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in


Andy --  it may not have been included until 2000 -- I'm pretty sure it's in
2000 and XP. 

Susan H. 

When you say earlier versions Susan, which do you mean? I still use
primarily (ok, totally) A97 and don't know of or see an Error Handler
Add-in.

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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Wed Oct  6 09:58:22 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:58:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BBF@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c4abb4$ecb40420$060aa845@hargrove.internal>

I found documentation for it at this link...

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/modcore/htm
l/derefode_help_codecomm.asp

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:32 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in



I use 2000, I don't' see it.  
Where is it located?
Jim H.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in


Andy --  it may not have been included until 2000 -- I'm pretty sure it's in
2000 and XP. 

Susan H. 

When you say earlier versions Susan, which do you mean? I still use
primarily (ok, totally) A97 and don't know of or see an Error Handler
Add-in.

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Wed Oct  6 09:57:19 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (dw-murphy at cox.net)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:57:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
Message-ID: <20041006145719.BSNN25647.fed1rmmtao03.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

Susan,

I have the XP Developer Edition but use the error handler insert from MZ Tools.  It also has some nice features to insert Module descriptive headers and procedure descriptive headers, along with many other handy features.

Doug
> 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> Date: 2004/10/06 Wed AM 09:01:43 EDT
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> 	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
> 
> Well, I can't even find the thing in 2003 -- there use to be one in earlier
> versions -- it came with the developer version I think. It's easy to use --
> so I'm curious if anyone actually uses it. 
> 
> It's one of the more frustrating things about 2003. I can't find anything.
> ;( So, if it doesn't even come with 2003 -- kind of a moot topic. 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> I don't use one, but I would like to.  :-)
> 
> Bobby
> 
> Do any of you use the Error Handler Add-in? I'm curious -- I'll be writing
> about it and I'd like to know if anybody likes it. 
>  
> 
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Oct  6 12:09:51 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:09:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4384076D@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Trickery needed.  I have a form based on the table tblTrackingSheetWIP.
Due to questionable database design, this form opens up another form,
where the tasknumber=tasknumber, that is based off of the same table.
User makes changes to second form.  Closes second form and returns to
route form.  Tries to change data on the original form and gets the
Another User Has Edited this Record.... Save your changes, etc.  I have
tried everything to get this record to save - closing the original form,
DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord, refresh, the works.

For now, I am closing the first form after I open the second, and it
looks like I will have to just return to a prior form and make the user
reselect the record to open up the first form.  Any ideas on a
workaround so I can open the first form gracefully?  Am I making sense?


Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services




From CMackin at quiznos.com  Wed Oct  6 12:20:18 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:20:18 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EF9E@snowmass.quiznos.net>

Yikes, making a subform might be  areally good idea or a tabbed form, but with the existing structure make sure that you have:

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord

when you open the second form (right before the DOcmd.OpenForm line) and when you close the second form have the same thing.  Additionally make sure you open Form #2 in teh acDialog mode so the use is unable to go from Form 1 to 2 freely, make sure they open form 2, use it a close it.

-Chris Mackin


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:10 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)


Trickery needed.  I have a form based on the table tblTrackingSheetWIP.
Due to questionable database design, this form opens up another form,
where the tasknumber=tasknumber, that is based off of the same table.
User makes changes to second form.  Closes second form and returns to
route form.  Tries to change data on the original form and gets the
Another User Has Edited this Record.... Save your changes, etc.  I have
tried everything to get this record to save - closing the original form,
DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord, refresh, the works.

For now, I am closing the first form after I open the second, and it
looks like I will have to just return to a prior form and make the user
reselect the record to open up the first form.  Any ideas on a
workaround so I can open the first form gracefully?  Am I making sense?


Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct  6 12:55:40 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:55:40 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4384076D@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4384076D@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <16539519686.20041006195540@cactus.dk>

Hi Karen

You need to requery form1 when form2 has created changes.

/gustav


> Trickery needed.  I have a form based on the table tblTrackingSheetWIP.
> Due to questionable database design, this form opens up another form,
> where the tasknumber=tasknumber, that is based off of the same table.
> User makes changes to second form.  Closes second form and returns to
> route form.  Tries to change data on the original form and gets the
> Another User Has Edited this Record.... Save your changes, etc.  I have
> tried everything to get this record to save - closing the original form,
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord, refresh, the works.

> For now, I am closing the first form after I open the second, and it
> looks like I will have to just return to a prior form and make the user
> reselect the record to open up the first form.  Any ideas on a
> workaround so I can open the first form gracefully?  Am I making sense?


> Karen Nicholson
> National Laboratory
> Xerox Global Services



From kost36 at otenet.gr  Wed Oct  6 13:20:50 2004
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:20:50 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Tranferring FOLDER names into a table
References: <200409291635435.SM01212@hplaptop>
Message-ID: <014001c4abd1$413c6c50$0100a8c0@KOST36>

Hi all,
is there any way to tranfer the folder names (even the inclouding files into 
them)?
I used a small tip but it can only read the files into a selected folder and 
not the folder names...

be all well
kostas konstantinidis 




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Oct  6 13:47:51 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:47:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Tranferring FOLDER names into a table
In-Reply-To: <24856930.1097087277563.JavaMail.root@sniper2.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000401c4abd4$fbd25ae0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Kostas,

Try looking at FileSystemObjects.  You'll need to set a reference to
scrrun.dll (Microsoft Scripting Runtime).

The help file for this is called script56.chm - you may need to search for
it.

HTH
Dan Waters

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Konstantinidis
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Tranferring FOLDER names into a table

Hi all,
is there any way to tranfer the folder names (even the inclouding files into

them)?
I used a small tip but it can only read the files into a selected folder and

not the folder names...

be all well
kostas konstantinidis 


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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Oct  6 13:57:28 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:57:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Tranferring FOLDER names into a table
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA309C4E50@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB8D1@ADGSERVER>

Have you looked into the DIR$ function?  It will get you the folders in a
given directory.

You can use Dir$ or the api Findfirstfile, findnextfile, and FindClose to
recursively find all of the folders.

Search Google for recurse folders vb.

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas
Konstantinidis
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 2:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Tranferring FOLDER names into a table


Hi all,
is there any way to tranfer the folder names (even the inclouding files into

them)?
I used a small tip but it can only read the files into a selected folder and

not the folder names...

be all well
kostas konstantinidis 


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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Oct  6 14:24:49 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:24:49 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Tranferring FOLDER names into a table
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7AC@nprdex02.nns.com>

Kostas,

Save the following line as a .bat file.  When run from your target
directory, it will create a text file for you that you can import directly
into Access.


DIR /B /S >C:/DIRLIST.TXT



-----Original Message-----
From: Kostas Konstantinidis [mailto:kost36 at otenet.gr] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 2:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Tranferring FOLDER names into a table


Hi all,
is there any way to tranfer the folder names (even the inclouding files into

them)?
I used a small tip but it can only read the files into a selected folder and

not the folder names...

be all well
kostas konstantinidis 


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Oct  6 16:44:23 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 07:44:23 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <000e01c4abb4$ecb40420$060aa845@hargrove.internal>
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BBF@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <4164F3D7.18752.38A6C7E@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 6 Oct 2004 at 10:58, Mike & Doris Manning wrote:

> I found documentation for it at this link...
> 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/modcore/htm
> l/derefode_help_codecomm.asp
> 
<quote>
A number of tools designed to aid in rapid application development in the 
Microsoft? Visual Basic? Editor are provided with Microsoft? Office XP 
Developer
</quote>

I suspect it is ONLY available with Office XP Developer Edition.

-- 
Stuart




From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 17:03:31 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:03:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <20041006145719.BSNN25647.fed1rmmtao03.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>
References: <20041006145719.BSNN25647.fed1rmmtao03.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>
Message-ID: <b874372a0410061503210efdd@mail.gmail.com>

I second the use of MzTools there's one for VB and VBA, that I use in
both cases... very efficient and lightweight IMNSHO


On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:57:19 -0400, dw-murphy at cox.net <dw-murphy at cox.net> wrote:
> Susan,
> 
> I have the XP Developer Edition but use the error handler insert from MZ Tools.  It also has some nice features to insert Module descriptive headers and procedure descriptive headers, along with many other handy features.
> 
> Doug
> >
> > From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> > Date: 2004/10/06 Wed AM 09:01:43 EDT
> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> >       <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
> 
> 
> >
> > Well, I can't even find the thing in 2003 -- there use to be one in earlier
> > versions -- it came with the developer version I think. It's easy to use --
> > so I'm curious if anyone actually uses it.
> >
> > It's one of the more frustrating things about 2003. I can't find anything.
> > ;( So, if it doesn't even come with 2003 -- kind of a moot topic.
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> > I don't use one, but I would like to.  :-)
> >
> > Bobby
> >
> > Do any of you use the Error Handler Add-in? I'm curious -- I'll be writing
> > about it and I'd like to know if anybody likes it.
> >
> >
> > --
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct  6 17:04:01 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 18:04:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <4164F3D7.18752.38A6C7E@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20041006220402.HSSF1791.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Yes, as far as I know, it's only available in the developer edition, and
since there isn't a developer edition for 2003, I suspect it's just
disappeared. I haven't been able to find it as a regular feature. 

Susan H. 

I suspect it is ONLY available with Office XP Developer Edition.




From lists at theopg.com  Wed Oct  6 17:18:34 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 23:18:34 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4384076D@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <000301c4abf2$6bb42560$9139fc3e@netboxxp>

You could unbind the second form and store its values hidden on the
first form. When you open the second form read the values in from the
first and when you close the second write them back (to the first form).
That way the record is only bound edited and updated in the first form
so no write conflick...

Hth

mark

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: 06 October 2004 18:10
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)


Trickery needed.  I have a form based on the table tblTrackingSheetWIP.
Due to questionable database design, this form opens up another form,
where the tasknumber=tasknumber, that is based off of the same table.
User makes changes to second form.  Closes second form and returns to
route form.  Tries to change data on the original form and gets the
Another User Has Edited this Record.... Save your changes, etc.  I have
tried everything to get this record to save - closing the original form,
DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord, refresh, the works.

For now, I am closing the first form after I open the second, and it
looks like I will have to just return to a prior form and make the user
reselect the record to open up the first form.  Any ideas on a
workaround so I can open the first form gracefully?  Am I making sense?


Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Oct  6 17:28:33 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:28:33 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AAB@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Have you checked the VSTO to see if it's included in the Access
extensions there?  I don't have it on this machine, so I can't check
here.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 3:04 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in


Yes, as far as I know, it's only available in the developer edition, and
since there isn't a developer edition for 2003, I suspect it's just
disappeared. I haven't been able to find it as a regular feature. 

Susan H. 

I suspect it is ONLY available with Office XP Developer Edition.


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Oct  7 05:33:34 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 06:33:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43840770@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I tried these scenarios.  This is so dicey that I spoke with my manager
yesterday and he has agreed that the fields on the second form should be
in their own table.  I have inherited a messy system, but my manager is
really smart and is starting to allow me to make structural changes when
warranted.  So today I shall restructure...

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)


Hi Karen

You need to requery form1 when form2 has created changes.

/gustav


> Trickery needed.  I have a form based on the table
tblTrackingSheetWIP.
> Due to questionable database design, this form opens up another form,
> where the tasknumber=tasknumber, that is based off of the same table.
> User makes changes to second form.  Closes second form and returns to
> route form.  Tries to change data on the original form and gets the
> Another User Has Edited this Record.... Save your changes, etc.  I
have
> tried everything to get this record to save - closing the original
form,
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord, refresh, the works.

> For now, I am closing the first form after I open the second, and it
> looks like I will have to just return to a prior form and make the
user
> reselect the record to open up the first form.  Any ideas on a
> workaround so I can open the first form gracefully?  Am I making
sense?


> Karen Nicholson
> National Laboratory
> Xerox Global Services

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Oct  7 06:21:46 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 13:21:46 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Security issue, opening SQL server port over internet
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF0ADC8E@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Hi Group
A new POS software supplier for a customer from me, asks to open up the
SQL server port over the ADSL/Internet.
He needs this to synchronise database between two sites.
 
I however, have always understood that opening the SQL server port over
the internet is a serious security issue and should be avoided. Due to
the numerous security bugs I seen passing the catwalk I find this my
personal opinion to.
Next to that, the own SQL security system needs to be tuned/activated
because by default everything is wide open.
 
I am wondering what the opinion /experiance of the Access group is in
this matter.
I'm also wondering if the SQL server (I believe version 7) data is
encypted when sending over the internet?
 
I personaly would use a VPN connection and connect to to SQL server over
that VPN. I know this has some speed drawbacks but its safe...
 
 

 

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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 08:36:10 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 14:36:10 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Emailing from an Access form
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192299@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Be grateful for the code for who an email is addressed to - who is to
receive the email - when emailing details from an access form.
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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 08:46:09 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 14:46:09 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Emailing from an Access form
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF73119229A@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Sorry, folks, found the answer quicker than expected. cheers

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Be grateful for the code for who an email is addressed to - who is to
receive the email - when emailing details from an access form.
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Oct  7 11:00:11 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:00:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
Message-ID: <b874372a041007090044e019d5@mail.gmail.com>

This is just a brain storm Idea, but I have a set of text boxes where
people are constantly keying in their data... I think it'd be neat to
duplicate the idea like a web - dropdown (auto-fill) in Access but not
necessarily w/ a combo box...

anyone do anything like this before?


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From JColby at dispec.com  Thu Oct  7 11:18:24 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:18:24 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF8F9@DISABILITYINS01>

Yes, I did an OnKeyDown that looked up the characters entered and pulled
matching data into a list box under the text box.  The list box would expand
(drop down) from 1 pixel tall to X pixels tall when the first key down
happened, then contracted back up when the text box lost the focus.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down


This is just a brain storm Idea, but I have a set of text boxes where
people are constantly keying in their data... I think it'd be neat to
duplicate the idea like a web - dropdown (auto-fill) in Access but not
necessarily w/ a combo box...

anyone do anything like this before?


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From JColby at dispec.com  Thu Oct  7 11:30:57 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:30:57 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF8FD@DISABILITYINS01>

And of course, using a class with WithEvents.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Web like drop down


Yes, I did an OnKeyDown that looked up the characters entered and pulled
matching data into a list box under the text box.  The list box would expand
(drop down) from 1 pixel tall to X pixels tall when the first key down
happened, then contracted back up when the text box lost the focus.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down


This is just a brain storm Idea, but I have a set of text boxes where
people are constantly keying in their data... I think it'd be neat to
duplicate the idea like a web - dropdown (auto-fill) in Access but not
necessarily w/ a combo box...

anyone do anything like this before?


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Oct  7 13:32:38 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 14:32:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Good deal
Message-ID: <000201c4ac9c$095a3940$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

The laptop I bought for 1500 minus $250 rebate is now available for $1300
minus an additional $150 mail in rebate.  This is a NICE machine folks.

Emachines Athlon64 3000+ ghz, 512m ram, 60m hard drive, built-in 54mbit
wireless, etc.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=product&id=1069301995506&skuId=
6249703

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From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Oct  7 13:36:47 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 13:36:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Chart Problem
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BCF@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Folks,
I need to create a pie chart in an A2K report.
There are two fields in the same record of the query I need to use.
There are over 300 records in the query. 
When I create the chart, all 300+ values show for the first field.

How do I get the chart to reflect both fields?

TIA 

Jim H.

From forefront at ig.com.br  Thu Oct  7 06:33:02 2004
From: forefront at ig.com.br (Forefront)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 08:33:02 -0300
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <20041006220402.HSSF1791.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20041006220402.HSSF1791.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
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I use MZTools and it has lots of good stuff, including a customizable 
Error Handling.  ;-)

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Oct  7 18:15:04 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 16:15:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF8FD@DISABILITYINS01>
References: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF8FD@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <b874372a041007161526e9b1d8@mail.gmail.com>

the code I had was off of some website.. I think they were APIs can't
remember,  John did you simply add to the combo box or extend the
textbox capabilities.


On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:30:57 -0400, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> And of course, using a class with WithEvents.
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:18 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Web like drop down
> 
> Yes, I did an OnKeyDown that looked up the characters entered and pulled
> matching data into a list box under the text box.  The list box would expand
> (drop down) from 1 pixel tall to X pixels tall when the first key down
> happened, then contracted back up when the text box lost the focus.
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
> 
> This is just a brain storm Idea, but I have a set of text boxes where
> people are constantly keying in their data... I think it'd be neat to
> duplicate the idea like a web - dropdown (auto-fill) in Access but not
> necessarily w/ a combo box...
> 
> anyone do anything like this before?
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Oct  7 20:43:45 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 21:43:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
In-Reply-To: <b874372a041007161526e9b1d8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c4acd8$3fd6ed60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Francisco,

I built a used a class to contain the code used for this thing.  As you
might know, a list control has a height property which can be expressed in
pixels or screen units anyway.  I used a list which has its own query.  That
query then looks for a "like" a text box.  As the user types in the text
box, each keystroke causes a requery of the list such that the list box
"narrows down" the selected items in the list.  IOW, suppose the text box
allows you to select last names.  As you type C, the list box drops down and
displays all names beginning with C.  Now you type an O and the list
requeries to display all names starting with CO.  L narrows it down to COL
etc.  The user can then use the mouse to select one of the objects in the
list if desired.  

The list expands on the first keystroke and collapses back up when the focus
leaves the list.  

Typically a third control will contain the index or PK of the object
currently highlighted in the list or the first item in the list if none is
highlighted.  That control is then used to do some thing such as filter
another control a subform etc.

The class contains event handlers for the text box as well as the list
(withevents) so that all of the functionality is contained in the class.
You just init the class, pass in a pointer to the three controls, plus the
height you want the list to drop down to etc.

I used this to build sets of these filters to select for example a single
type of screw for the screw company's app.  The first set would select head
style, the next the thread style, the next the pitch etc.  The objective was
to tunnel down to a specific screw or even set of screws.

Is this functionality what you are referring to?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Web like drop down


the code I had was off of some website.. I think they were APIs can't
remember,  John did you simply add to the combo box or extend the textbox
capabilities.


On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:30:57 -0400, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> And of course, using a class with WithEvents.
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Oct  7 23:19:15 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 00:19:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
In-Reply-To: <000b01c4acd8$3fd6ed60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000c01c4aced$fd56fe60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Boy, that was just about unintelligible!  

8-(

I suppose I really should reread my posts before pressing send!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Web like drop down


Francisco,

I built a used a class to contain the code used for this thing.  As you
might know, a list control has a height property which can be expressed in
pixels or screen units anyway.  I used a list which has its own query.  That
query then looks for a "like" a text box.  As the user types in the text
box, each keystroke causes a requery of the list such that the list box
"narrows down" the selected items in the list.  IOW, suppose the text box
allows you to select last names.  As you type C, the list box drops down and
displays all names beginning with C.  Now you type an O and the list
requeries to display all names starting with CO.  L narrows it down to COL
etc.  The user can then use the mouse to select one of the objects in the
list if desired.  

The list expands on the first keystroke and collapses back up when the focus
leaves the list.  

Typically a third control will contain the index or PK of the object
currently highlighted in the list or the first item in the list if none is
highlighted.  That control is then used to do some thing such as filter
another control a subform etc.

The class contains event handlers for the text box as well as the list
(withevents) so that all of the functionality is contained in the class. You
just init the class, pass in a pointer to the three controls, plus the
height you want the list to drop down to etc.

I used this to build sets of these filters to select for example a single
type of screw for the screw company's app.  The first set would select head
style, the next the thread style, the next the pitch etc.  The objective was
to tunnel down to a specific screw or even set of screws.

Is this functionality what you are referring to?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Web like drop down


the code I had was off of some website.. I think they were APIs can't
remember,  John did you simply add to the combo box or extend the textbox
capabilities.


On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:30:57 -0400, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> And of course, using a class with WithEvents.
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy


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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Oct  8 01:06:04 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 23:06:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4aced$fd56fe60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <000b01c4acd8$3fd6ed60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
	<000c01c4aced$fd56fe60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <b874372a041007230664f995d9@mail.gmail.com>

I'll have to keep searching through my examples, but it was a text box
like when you visit a website, and you subclassed the textbox so that
you could simply type into the textbox and it would behave like one in
a webform, allowing you to just pick from the random list... It was an
IE type feature IIRC... I'll just keep looking and re-post when I find
it :) it's another bell and whistle but nothing that's gonna be a show
stopper for my current task.


On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 00:19:15 -0400, John W. Colby
<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Boy, that was just about unintelligible!
> 
> 8-(
> 
> I suppose I really should reread my posts before pressing send!
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:44 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Web like drop down
> 
> Francisco,
> 
> I built a used a class to contain the code used for this thing.  As you
> might know, a list control has a height property which can be expressed in
> pixels or screen units anyway.  I used a list which has its own query.  That
> query then looks for a "like" a text box.  As the user types in the text
> box, each keystroke causes a requery of the list such that the list box
> "narrows down" the selected items in the list.  IOW, suppose the text box
> allows you to select last names.  As you type C, the list box drops down and
> displays all names beginning with C.  Now you type an O and the list
> requeries to display all names starting with CO.  L narrows it down to COL
> etc.  The user can then use the mouse to select one of the objects in the
> list if desired.
> 
> The list expands on the first keystroke and collapses back up when the focus
> leaves the list.
> 
> Typically a third control will contain the index or PK of the object
> currently highlighted in the list or the first item in the list if none is
> highlighted.  That control is then used to do some thing such as filter
> another control a subform etc.
> 
> The class contains event handlers for the text box as well as the list
> (withevents) so that all of the functionality is contained in the class. You
> just init the class, pass in a pointer to the three controls, plus the
> height you want the list to drop down to etc.
> 
> I used this to build sets of these filters to select for example a single
> type of screw for the screw company's app.  The first set would select head
> style, the next the thread style, the next the pitch etc.  The objective was
> to tunnel down to a specific screw or even set of screws.
> 
> Is this functionality what you are referring to?
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:15 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Web like drop down
> 
> the code I had was off of some website.. I think they were APIs can't
> remember,  John did you simply add to the combo box or extend the textbox
> capabilities.
> 
> On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:30:57 -0400, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> > And of course, using a class with WithEvents.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > The DIS Database Guy
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  8 01:37:39 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 23:37:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT Send mail using Word 2000
Message-ID: <20041008063739.10586.qmail@web61109.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
i'm going nuts. I need to send mail using Word. However I cannot find out how to add a recipient!??!
 
Sending mail is easy: me.sendmail 
But hten you have to manually add the recipient info, subject etc.
 
Any ideas?
 
TIA
 
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Oct  8 08:46:09 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 08:46:09 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677217FF97@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Maybe you should run for president! (hey its Friday)
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Web like drop down


Boy, that was just about unintelligible!  

8-(

I suppose I really should reread my posts before pressing send!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Web like drop down


Francisco,

I built a used a class to contain the code used for this thing.  As you
might know, a list control has a height property which can be expressed in
pixels or screen units anyway.  I used a list which has its own query.  That
query then looks for a "like" a text box.  As the user types in the text
box, each keystroke causes a requery of the list such that the list box
"narrows down" the selected items in the list.  IOW, suppose the text box
allows you to select last names.  As you type C, the list box drops down and
displays all names beginning with C.  Now you type an O and the list
requeries to display all names starting with CO.  L narrows it down to COL
etc.  The user can then use the mouse to select one of the objects in the
list if desired.  

The list expands on the first keystroke and collapses back up when the focus
leaves the list.  

Typically a third control will contain the index or PK of the object
currently highlighted in the list or the first item in the list if none is
highlighted.  That control is then used to do some thing such as filter
another control a subform etc.

The class contains event handlers for the text box as well as the list
(withevents) so that all of the functionality is contained in the class. You
just init the class, pass in a pointer to the three controls, plus the
height you want the list to drop down to etc.

I used this to build sets of these filters to select for example a single
type of screw for the screw company's app.  The first set would select head
style, the next the thread style, the next the pitch etc.  The objective was
to tunnel down to a specific screw or even set of screws.

Is this functionality what you are referring to?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Web like drop down


the code I had was off of some website.. I think they were APIs can't
remember,  John did you simply add to the combo box or extend the textbox
capabilities.


On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:30:57 -0400, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> And of course, using a class with WithEvents.
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy


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From Alun.Garraway at otto.de  Fri Oct  8 09:33:12 2004
From: Alun.Garraway at otto.de (Garraway, Alun)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 16:33:12 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
Message-ID: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A017272B8@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>

Hi,

is it possible to check if a ADODB.Command was successful,
IOW when I have following code:

strSQL = INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3)
SELECT A1, A2, A3
FROM table
WHERE Something = Something 

command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute

how can I know (check) if a record has been added?

have a nice weekend :-)

alun


From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Oct  8 09:57:55 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:57:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Chart Problem
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BD3@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

I figured it out.
I created a bar chart, then changed the "type" of the chart.
The pie chart is correct.
Jim H.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 1:37 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Chart Problem


Folks,
I need to create a pie chart in an A2K report.
There are two fields in the same record of the query I need to use.
There are over 300 records in the query. 
When I create the chart, all 300+ values show for the first field.

How do I get the chart to reflect both fields?

TIA 

Jim H.


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Oct  8 09:57:25 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:57:25 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016CFE0@main2.marlow.com>

Dim intRecordsAffected As Long
strSQL = "INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3) " & _
"SELECT A1, A2, A3 " & _
"FROM table " & _
"WHERE Something = Something"
command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute intRecordsAffected

When run, intRecordsAffected will have the number of records affected by the
command text.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Hi,

is it possible to check if a ADODB.Command was successful,
IOW when I have following code:

strSQL = INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3)
SELECT A1, A2, A3
FROM table
WHERE Something = Something 

command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute

how can I know (check) if a record has been added?

have a nice weekend :-)

alun
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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Fri Oct  8 10:06:33 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 11:06:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
In-Reply-To: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A017272B8@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>
Message-ID: <002f01c4ad48$665a9700$0200a8c0@COA3>

After execution, check 
cmd.ActiveConnection.Errors.Count; if greater than 0, there were
error(s).

Of course, you should cmd.ActiveConnection.Errors.Clear just before
execute, and don't use that connection for anything else, to be 100%
sure it's your command that caused any error.


Steve


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Garraway,
Alun
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Hi,

is it possible to check if a ADODB.Command was successful,
IOW when I have following code:

strSQL = INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3)
SELECT A1, A2, A3
FROM table
WHERE Something = Something 

command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute

how can I know (check) if a record has been added?

have a nice weekend :-)

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From Alun.Garraway at otto.de  Fri Oct  8 10:09:20 2004
From: Alun.Garraway at otto.de (Garraway, Alun)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 17:09:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
Message-ID: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A017272B9@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>

COOL!

thanks Drew

works like a charm :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Dim intRecordsAffected As Long
strSQL = "INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3) " & _
"SELECT A1, A2, A3 " & _
"FROM table " & _
"WHERE Something = Something"
command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute intRecordsAffected

When run, intRecordsAffected will have the number of records affected by the
command text.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Hi,

is it possible to check if a ADODB.Command was successful,
IOW when I have following code:

strSQL = INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3)
SELECT A1, A2, A3
FROM table
WHERE Something = Something 

command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute

how can I know (check) if a record has been added?

have a nice weekend :-)

alun
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Oct  8 10:41:28 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:41:28 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016CFE5@main2.marlow.com>

You're quite welcome.  Glad to help. As an FYI, that same method can be used
with a connection object's Execute method. (I actually had to look it up, to
make sure it was there for the Command object)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


COOL!

thanks Drew

works like a charm :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Dim intRecordsAffected As Long
strSQL = "INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3) " & _
"SELECT A1, A2, A3 " & _
"FROM table " & _
"WHERE Something = Something"
command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute intRecordsAffected

When run, intRecordsAffected will have the number of records affected by the
command text.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Hi,

is it possible to check if a ADODB.Command was successful,
IOW when I have following code:

strSQL = INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3)
SELECT A1, A2, A3
FROM table
WHERE Something = Something 

command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute

how can I know (check) if a record has been added?

have a nice weekend :-)

alun
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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Fri Oct  8 11:07:06 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:07:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016CFE5@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <003001c4ad50$db960f10$0200a8c0@COA3>

Guess I'm not cool, but my method works too

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:41 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


You're quite welcome.  Glad to help. As an FYI, that same method can be
used with a connection object's Execute method. (I actually had to look
it up, to make sure it was there for the Command object)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


COOL!

thanks Drew

works like a charm :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Dim intRecordsAffected As Long
strSQL = "INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3) " & _
"SELECT A1, A2, A3 " & _
"FROM table " & _
"WHERE Something = Something"
command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute intRecordsAffected

When run, intRecordsAffected will have the number of records affected by
the command text.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Hi,

is it possible to check if a ADODB.Command was successful,
IOW when I have following code:

strSQL = INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3)
SELECT A1, A2, A3
FROM table
WHERE Something = Something 

command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute

how can I know (check) if a record has been added?

have a nice weekend :-)

alun
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From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Fri Oct  8 11:21:58 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 11:21:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE630500326CA@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

I have a field in a table which is a Memo Field.
On the form, I am using a text box to hold the data.
The field shows 300+ characters in the table, but when I view it in a form (in Datasheet view) using the Shift/F2 zoom viewer, I can only see 255 characters.
When I send the data to an MS Word document, everything is there.
When I close the document and the form, then reopen the form, the data still will not appear in the Zoom Viewer.
But if I check the table itself, all of the data is there.
 
Any ideas on why I cannot view ALL of the data in the field???
 
TIA
 
Jeff B
 


From Oleg_123 at xuppa.com  Fri Oct  8 12:01:25 2004
From: Oleg_123 at xuppa.com (Oleg_123 at xuppa.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 13:01:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 grid question
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4aced$fd56fe60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <000b01c4acd8$3fd6ed60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
	<000c01c4aced$fd56fe60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <50467.68.161.124.132.1097254885.squirrel@heck.xuppa.com>

Hey
I have a form in VB6 that is taking data from Oracle table and shows it in
Grid
The column headers in grid show as they are on the table, what should I do
ro show them differently in the grid ?

thank you
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Oct  8 17:12:36 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 08:12:36 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016CFE0@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <41679D74.24841.3635AD8@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 8 Oct 2004 at 9:57, DWUTKA at marlow.com wrote:

> Dim intRecordsAffected As Long

<grin>

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Oct  8 17:25:23 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 17:25:23 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016CFF1@main2.marlow.com>

<rolling eyes>

Well, that's what I would dimension it as! ;p

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 5:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


On 8 Oct 2004 at 9:57, DWUTKA at marlow.com wrote:

> Dim intRecordsAffected As Long

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From thewaddles at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 10 00:31:25 2004
From: thewaddles at sbcglobal.net (Kevin Waddle)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 22:31:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
In-Reply-To: <200410052000.i95K0LIi029282@ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <200410100531.i9A5V5L06142@databaseadvisors.com>

Augusta,
Please excuse the length of this reply...it took much longer to explain than
it would to accomplish.

You can solve the Check Box problem and you data normalization problem in
the manner listed below.

If you have a TextBox to hold the reason for restriction there is nothing to
prevent User1 from entering "Because he's broke" and User2 entering "He gots
no money".  The same reason but not way to determine how many customers are
broke from this data.

You need a ComboBox listing all the reasons

Example:
1. Create a table named tblRestrictions
	1.1. Add two fields to the table; RestrictionID as an AutoNumber and
ReasonForRestriction as a Text field
	1.2. Close the table and enter into the table all the reasons that
contributions could be restricted.
		Your first reason should be something like N/A or No

2. Open your main table in design mode and add a field in your main table
named ContibutionsRestricted
	2.1. From the Data Type as dropdown select LookUp Wizard
	2.2. A dialog box will appear; Select "I want the lookup column to
lookup the values in a table or query"
	2.3. Click Next, then select tblRestrictions from the list.
	2.4. Click Next, then select ReasonForRestriction from the list and
click the > button
	2.5. Click Next, then the dialog will allow you to sort the
ReasonForRestriction by the AutoNumber or text
	2.6. Click Next, then the dialog will show you the data selected and
a checkbox titled "Hide Key Column 	(Recommended)" leave this checked
	2.7. Click Next, then the dialog will ask you for a name for your
new field
	2.8. Click Finish

3. You will be back at the Design View with a Popup saying "The table must
be saved before relationships can be created, Save Now?" Yes / No, Click Yes

4. Your new field, ContibutionsRestricted, shows in your table with a data
type of Number.

You have just created a One-to-Many relationship between the RestrictionID
field in the table tblRestrictions (One Side) and the ContibutionsRestricted
field (Many Side) in the main table.

What is actually stored in the main table is the number that corresponds to
the ReasonForRestriction from the table tblRestrictions.

If you add this field to a form it will be a ComboBox from which you can
select your reasons.
In your form design you can set the "Default Value" property to 1 so that
any new customers will default to N/A


Hope this helps,
Kevin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of augusta
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked

I need to know how to make a field required if another field is checked. For
example: If the contributions are restricted, then fill in the restricted
reason.

Can anyone help  - in plain English?

Thanks Augusta



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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct 10 10:05:46 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:05:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
Message-ID: <20041010150545.NSHO1719.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 
 
Thanks!
Susan H. 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Oct 10 10:22:43 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:22:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <20041010150545.NSHO1719.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000c01c4aedd$011475a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Me too

John W. Colby
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Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators


I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 
 
Thanks!
Susan H. 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Oct 10 10:43:33 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 17:43:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4aedd$011475a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <000c01c4aedd$011475a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <7719690433.20041010174333@cactus.dk>

Hi John

> Me too

Ehh ... why?

/gustav


> I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
> scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
> interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
> such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 



From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Sun Oct 10 10:50:16 2004
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 17:50:16 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <20041010150545.NSHO1719.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20041010154642.A1E6E97FB@smtp5.wanadoo.nl>

First of all this might differ from engine to engine though I have found
something where methods are mentioned on how things might be interpreted,
interesting  but maybe not yet enough information but hey it's Sunday;-)

(I'll give it another try lateron:-)) 


Regards, 
Eric Starkenburg 
  

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Verzonden: zondag 10 oktober 2004 17:06 
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Onderwerp: [AccessD] inner workings of operators 

I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 

  
Thanks! 
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From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Sun Oct 10 10:57:44 2004
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 17:57:44 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <20041010150545.NSHO1719.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20041010155410.EEBE29411@smtp5.wanadoo.nl>

LOL... I was so much looking for this stuff I forgot to insert the link!!!! 

Sorry:-) 

 http://www.lextek.com/manuals/profiler/LANG_Intro.html 


Just as an example though... 


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Verzonden: zondag 10 oktober 2004 17:06 
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Onderwerp: [AccessD] inner workings of operators 

I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 

  
Thanks! 
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From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Sun Oct 10 11:34:38 2004
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 18:34:38 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <20041010150545.NSHO1719.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20041010163104.090359ABF@smtp5.wanadoo.nl>

Ok just some more info on Operators 

Logical 
http://www.utexas.edu/math/Matlab/Manual/Logical.html 
http://www.physiol.ox.ac.uk/Computing/Online_Documentation/JavaScript/ops.ht
m 

SQL 
Oracle IN statement: www.dbspecialists.com/presentations/tunesql.doc 

Pfff hard to find indeed...! Seems like subsets of data are used in the
background for evaluation resulting in a set that meets the conditions:-) 

Ohwell must be someone able to find more... Gustav?:-) 


Regards, 
Eric Starkenburg 

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Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Onderwerp: [AccessD] inner workings of operators 

I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 

  
Thanks! 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Oct 10 12:03:36 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:03:36 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <20041010163104.090359ABF@smtp5.wanadoo.nl>
References: <20041010163104.090359ABF@smtp5.wanadoo.nl>
Message-ID: <12624493239.20041010190336@cactus.dk>

Hi Eric

> Ohwell must be someone able to find more... Gustav?:-)

I would be happy to do so - if I only knew what to look for?

I mean - I know what In and Or mean but can't see how I can influence
a lot on how they work "behind the scenes", neither do I care that
much.

Am I missing something?
I'm not about to build my own search engine - but would that be a
purpose? Could be nice with a quick search in memo fields. Hasn't Drew
worked with this?

/gustav


> I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
> scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
> interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
> such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct 10 14:06:13 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:06:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <7719690433.20041010174333@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041010190634.GWRX1786.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Knowing how it works behind the scenes can often help you write more
efficient code. Also, can help you decide which choices will perform better.
With today's system, it hardly matters anymore unless you're dealing with
zads of records, but it's still the kind of stuff developers want to know. 

Susan H.  



Hi John

> Me too

Ehh ... why?

/gustav


> I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the 
> scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just 
> interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows 
> of such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link.

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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Sun Oct 10 16:27:07 2004
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: 10 Oct 2004 21:27:07 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
Message-ID: <E1CGlDf-0003La-NQ@amos>

Is it true George Bush wore a radio receiver strapped to his back during 
the last debate with Kerry. Just watch it on the news here. they showed a 
close up of his back and the outline of a rectangle under the back of his 
jacket and a wire running up to his ear.

Martin


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Oct 10 16:46:13 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:46:13 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
In-Reply-To: <E1CGlDf-0003La-NQ@amos>
Message-ID: <000501c4af12$906448e0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

I'd hazard a guess that was meant for the OT list Martin.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

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> Sent: 10 October 2004 22:27
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
> 
> 
> Is it true George Bush wore a radio receiver strapped to his 
> back during 
> the last debate with Kerry. Just watch it on the news here. 
> they showed a 
> close up of his back and the outline of a rectangle under the 
> back of his 
> jacket and a wire running up to his ear.
> 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct 10 17:03:24 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 18:03:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <20041010155410.EEBE29411@smtp5.wanadoo.nl>
Message-ID: <20041010220323.JJHJ1786.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Thanks Starkey -- I may find something in that. 

Susan H. 

LOL... I was so much looking for this stuff I forgot to insert the link!!!! 

Sorry:-) 

 http://www.lextek.com/manuals/profiler/LANG_Intro.html 


Just as an example though... 



From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Mon Oct 11 01:40:48 2004
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:40:48 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 grid question
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D01011C19@ddi-01.DDI.local>

Which grid are you using?
A simple solution might be to alias your field names using
either a view or query.
I use a custom grid (Janus) as do most others, the standard ones are
pretty ugly to work with...


regards

Michael M

Hey
I have a form in VB6 that is taking data from Oracle table and shows it
in Grid The column headers in grid show as they are on the table, what
should I do ro show them differently in the grid ?

thank you
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Mon Oct 11 02:55:42 2004
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:55:42 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
References: <000501c4af12$906448e0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <001401c4af67$b502ac00$9111758f@aine>

Opps

Apologies all


Martin


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Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate


> I'd hazard a guess that was meant for the OT list Martin.
>
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
>> Sent: 10 October 2004 22:27
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
>>
>>
>> Is it true George Bush wore a radio receiver strapped to his
>> back during
>> the last debate with Kerry. Just watch it on the news here.
>> they showed a
>> close up of his back and the outline of a rectangle under the
>> back of his
>> jacket and a wire running up to his ear.
>>
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From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Oct 11 03:11:17 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 03:11:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <4813187803.20041005124050@cactus.dk>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>
	<20041004121006.1004197457.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4813187803.20041005124050@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041011031117.1553474484.serbach@new.rr.com>

Gustav and Jim,

Things worked out all right after I reformatted the drive and re-installed Office 2000 Premium and the Access 2000 Runtime application. It looks like it was an unfortunate sequence of events resulting from 1) a serious virus infestation, and 2) the misunderstanding of the Runtime application by the people hired at first to re-format the drive.

It now looks like an older version of the Runtime application was installed. That older version used Access 97 Runtime. Then, I think, Office 2000 Premium was installed and then the update to the Runtime app to convert it to Access Runtime 2000...I can't really say. I wasn't there.

Anyway, the effect was that they experienced the wierd number disappearances in any Access report. That's fixed now and I'm tired of trying to figure out what happened. Do you ever get that way?

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI




From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Mon Oct 11 04:11:27 2004
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:11:27 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Chart Problem
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED5DD@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi Jim

Did you manage to solve this one? I have to say I'm struggling to imagine a
pie-chart based on 2 values - what do you want it to look like?

Sorry I can't be more help

Roz

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: 07 October 2004 19:37
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Chart Problem


Folks,
I need to create a pie chart in an A2K report.
There are two fields in the same record of the query I need to use. There
are over 300 records in the query. 
When I create the chart, all 300+ values show for the first field.

How do I get the chart to reflect both fields?

TIA 

Jim H.
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Oct 11 04:57:23 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:57:23 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <20041011031117.1553474484.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>
	<20041004121006.1004197457.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4813187803.20041005124050@cactus.dk>
	<20041011031117.1553474484.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <15811050820.20041011115723@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

> Anyway, the effect was that they experienced the wierd number
> disappearances in any Access report. That's fixed now and I'm tired
> of trying to figure out what happened. Do you ever get that way?

It happens - and remember: Users lie!

/gustav



From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Oct 11 05:18:40 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 05:18:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <15811050820.20041011115723@cactus.dk>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>
	<20041004121006.1004197457.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4813187803.20041005124050@cactus.dk>
	<20041011031117.1553474484.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<15811050820.20041011115723@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041011051840.1309280929.serbach@new.rr.com>

Gustav,

>> It happens - and remember: Users lie! <<

In this case the user's report was entirely accurate: numerals did not appear in any form in the Access report previewer: dates, page numbers, phone numbers, as well as regular numbers. The formatting marks (dollar signs, commas, hyphens, parentheses, etc.) would all appear in their proper places. It just looked like the numbers were white-on-white.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI




From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Oct 11 06:35:02 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:35:02 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <20041011051840.1309280929.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>
	<20041004121006.1004197457.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4813187803.20041005124050@cactus.dk>
	<20041011031117.1553474484.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<15811050820.20041011115723@cactus.dk>
	<20041011051840.1309280929.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <5016909484.20041011133502@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

>>> It happens - and remember: Users lie! <<

It relates to "what has happened" and "what did you do"?

> In this case the user's report was entirely accurate: numerals did not appear in any form in the Access report previewer: dates, page numbers, phone numbers, as well as regular numbers. The
> formatting marks (dollar signs, commas, hyphens, parentheses, etc.) would all appear in their proper places. It just looked like the numbers were white-on-white.

/gustav



From kost36 at otenet.gr  Mon Oct 11 06:51:55 2004
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:51:55 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] How to get bold only the left string of a field...
References: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7AC@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <00ca01c4af88$cb14fd60$0100a8c0@KOST36>

Hi all,
I use a query like 
Name:[first_name]&" "&[last_name]&", "&[job]..... bla bla
Is it possible to get bold only the first_name?

thank's
kostas konstanitnidis 




From JHewson at karta.com  Mon Oct 11 07:47:24 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 07:47:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BD9@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


December of last year Gustav gave us this link.
http://www.lebans.com/Report.htm#MixBold
I haven't tried it yet... but it looks promising.
HTH
Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:22 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue


I have a field in a table which is a Memo Field.
On the form, I am using a text box to hold the data.
The field shows 300+ characters in the table, but when I view it in a form (in Datasheet view) using the Shift/F2 zoom viewer, I can only see 255 characters.
When I send the data to an MS Word document, everything is there.
When I close the document and the form, then reopen the form, the data still will not appear in the Zoom Viewer.
But if I check the table itself, all of the data is there.
 
Any ideas on why I cannot view ALL of the data in the field???
 
TIA
 
Jeff B
 
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From JHewson at karta.com  Mon Oct 11 07:53:55 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 07:53:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Chart Problem
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BDA@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Roz,
I did figure it out, thank you.
It's actually three values.  The record ID is the third value that doesn't show.
I was trying to create two pie charts.  One pie chart shows the percentage of direct pay vs indirect pay (medical, dental, etc.); the other Company contributions vs employee contributions for benefits.

Jim H.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chart Problem


Hi Jim

Did you manage to solve this one? I have to say I'm struggling to imagine a
pie-chart based on 2 values - what do you want it to look like?

Sorry I can't be more help

Roz

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: 07 October 2004 19:37
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Chart Problem


Folks,
I need to create a pie chart in an A2K report.
There are two fields in the same record of the query I need to use. There
are over 300 records in the query. 
When I create the chart, all 300+ values show for the first field.

How do I get the chart to reflect both fields?

TIA 

Jim H.


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct 11 10:19:22 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:19:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AB2@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you talking about the logical operators in SQL?  Joe Celko's books
get into that as I recall.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 8:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators


I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows
of such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 
 
Thanks!
Susan H. 
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From MPorter at acsalaska.com  Mon Oct 11 12:16:45 2004
From: MPorter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:16:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
Message-ID: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D170E4E41@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>

In the vein of optimization of SQL, I got a wealth of very specific information from this book and it might be worth a look;

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/159059164X/qid=1097514715/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i4_xgl14/102-7440773-1342551?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

And SQL performance does matter, even in today's systems.  Your low use database you create for 20 users today could become a component of a web enabled database with global availability tomorrow.

Mark

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> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Susan Harkins
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:06 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
> 
> 
> Knowing how it works behind the scenes can often help you write more
> efficient code. Also, can help you decide which choices will 
> perform better.
> With today's system, it hardly matters anymore unless you're 
> dealing with
> zads of records, but it's still the kind of stuff developers 
> want to know. 
> 
> Susan H.  
> 
> 
> 
> Hi John
> 
> > Me too
> 
> Ehh ... why?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> > I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work 
> behind the 
> > scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just 
> > interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If 
> anyone knows 
> > of such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link.
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From Oleg_123 at xuppa.com  Mon Oct 11 17:37:39 2004
From: Oleg_123 at xuppa.com (Oleg_123 at xuppa.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:37:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Bush Kerry Debate
In-Reply-To: <001401c4af67$b502ac00$9111758f@aine>
References: <000501c4af12$906448e0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
	<001401c4af67$b502ac00$9111758f@aine>
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how came I didn't see any messages as per debate ? do I have to regisster
separately  ?

> Opps
>
> Apologies all
>
>
> Martin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 10:46 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
>
>
>> I'd hazard a guess that was meant for the OT list Martin.
>>
>> -- Andy Lacey
>> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin
>>> Reid Sent: 10 October 2004 22:27
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it true George Bush wore a radio receiver strapped to his
>>> back during
>>> the last debate with Kerry. Just watch it on the news here.
>>> they showed a
>>> close up of his back and the outline of a rectangle under the
>>> back of his
>>> jacket and a wire running up to his ear.
>>>
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From Subscriptions at servicexp.com  Mon Oct 11 17:59:01 2004
From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:59:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Ohms Calculations
In-Reply-To: <48883.216.223.34.13.1097534259.squirrel@heck.xuppa.com>
Message-ID: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOAEKDECAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>


 Has anyone already wrote out the calculations for the Ohms Laws in vb?

i.e...

P / E = I

Square Root of (P / R) = I

E / R = I

etc...

Thanks 
Robert Gracie



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Oct 11 18:22:50 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:22:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BD9@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <200410112322.i9BNMuXH014427@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Jeff

On forms that have text boxes that are too small, because of real estate
issues, to display all the
text they can hold, I give a "double click to add/edit data in this field"
option.
User double clicks and up pops my own hand rolled unbound 'zoom' box. Bigger
than the Shift/F2 version
(You can add extra features as required)

I pass the relevant value to it when opened - allow edits to take place
there
and save changes once it's closed and refresh the 'calling' field on the
'calling' form

HTH

Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Monday, 11 October 2004 10:47 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue


December of last year Gustav gave us this link.
http://www.lebans.com/Report.htm#MixBold
I haven't tried it yet... but it looks promising.
HTH
Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:22 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue


I have a field in a table which is a Memo Field.
On the form, I am using a text box to hold the data.
The field shows 300+ characters in the table, but when I view it in a form
(in Datasheet view) using the Shift/F2 zoom viewer, I can only see 255
characters.
When I send the data to an MS Word document, everything is there.
When I close the document and the form, then reopen the form, the data still
will not appear in the Zoom Viewer.
But if I check the table itself, all of the data is there.
 
Any ideas on why I cannot view ALL of the data in the field???
 
TIA
 
Jeff B
 
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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Mon Oct 11 21:16:31 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:16:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328038549@starfleet.unknown.local>

Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad


From kost36 at otenet.gr  Tue Oct 12 00:22:24 2004
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:22:24 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BD9@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <001b01c4b01b$82a69fa0$0100a8c0@KOST36>

Jim,
fixed thank's
kostas konstantinidis

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From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue


>
> December of last year Gustav gave us this link.
> http://www.lebans.com/Report.htm#MixBold
> I haven't tried it yet... but it looks promising.
> HTH
> Jim H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:22 AM
> To: AccessD
> Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue
>
>
> I have a field in a table which is a Memo Field.
> On the form, I am using a text box to hold the data.
> The field shows 300+ characters in the table, but when I view it in a form 
> (in Datasheet view) using the Shift/F2 zoom viewer, I can only see 255 
> characters.
> When I send the data to an MS Word document, everything is there.
> When I close the document and the form, then reopen the form, the data 
> still will not appear in the Zoom Viewer.
> But if I check the table itself, all of the data is there.
>
> Any ideas on why I cannot view ALL of the data in the field???
>
> TIA
>
> Jeff B
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 12 01:34:05 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:34:05 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Bush Kerry Debate
In-Reply-To: <48883.216.223.34.13.1097534259.squirrel@heck.xuppa.com>
Message-ID: <000901c4b025$78fc0f80$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Oleg

Such topics are banned from this list. We do, however, have a separate list
for those who want to discuss politics, religion, life, the meaning of the
universe etc. It's called the OT (off-topic) list. You can subscribe to
that. See instructions on the web site. Go to
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/lists/whatandhow.htm

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Oleg_123 at xuppa.com
> Sent: 11 October 2004 23:38
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Bush Kerry Debate
> 
> 
> how came I didn't see any messages as per debate ? do I have 
> to regisster separately  ?
> 
> > Opps
> >
> > Apologies all
> >
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 10:46 PM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
> >
> >
> >> I'd hazard a guess that was meant for the OT list Martin.
> >>
> >> -- Andy Lacey
> >> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin 
> >>> Reid Sent: 10 October 2004 22:27
> >>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >>> Subject: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Is it true George Bush wore a radio receiver strapped to his back 
> >>> during the last debate with Kerry. Just watch it on the news here.
> >>> they showed a
> >>> close up of his back and the outline of a rectangle under the
> >>> back of his
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> >>>
> >>> Martin
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct 12 03:26:26 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:26:26 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Ohms Calculations
In-Reply-To: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOAEKDECAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>
References: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOAEKDECAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>
Message-ID: <956281682.20041012102626@cactus.dk>

Hi Robert

Use Sqr(P / R) or (P / R)^(1 / 2)

/gustav

>  Has anyone already wrote out the calculations for the Ohms Laws in vb?

> i.e...

> P / E = I

> Square Root of (P / R) = I

> E / R = I

> etc...

> Thanks 
> Robert Gracie



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Oct 12 05:27:35 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 06:27:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43840787@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Care to share your bigger than shift-f2 function?  Sounds interesting.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue


Hi Jeff

On forms that have text boxes that are too small, because of real estate
issues, to display all the
text they can hold, I give a "double click to add/edit data in this
field"
option.
User double clicks and up pops my own hand rolled unbound 'zoom' box.
Bigger
than the Shift/F2 version
(You can add extra features as required)

I pass the relevant value to it when opened - allow edits to take place
there
and save changes once it's closed and refresh the 'calling' field on the
'calling' form

HTH

Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Monday, 11 October 2004 10:47 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue


December of last year Gustav gave us this link.
http://www.lebans.com/Report.htm#MixBold
I haven't tried it yet... but it looks promising.
HTH
Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:22 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue


I have a field in a table which is a Memo Field.
On the form, I am using a text box to hold the data.
The field shows 300+ characters in the table, but when I view it in a
form
(in Datasheet view) using the Shift/F2 zoom viewer, I can only see 255
characters.
When I send the data to an MS Word document, everything is there.
When I close the document and the form, then reopen the form, the data
still
will not appear in the Zoom Viewer.
But if I check the table itself, all of the data is there.
 
Any ideas on why I cannot view ALL of the data in the field???
 
TIA
 
Jeff B
 
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From joconnell at indy.rr.com  Tue Oct 12 08:59:51 2004
From: joconnell at indy.rr.com (Joseph O'Connell)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:59:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <085e01c4b063$d0bcc6e0$6701a8c0@joe>

Vlad,

Is there a reason that the form cannot be bound to the table/query/SQL that
is used to populate the recordset?

Joe O'Connell

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS <actebs at actebs.com.au>
To: access group <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: Monday, October 11, 2004 9:23 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,

Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?

Any help much appreciated...

Vlad
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 12 10:20:57 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:20:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ABA@infoserver01.infostat.local>

There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Oct 12 10:23:51 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:23:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ABA@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20041012152353.GSTH2413.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I've never tried this -- would the form's Recordset property work? 

Susan H. 

There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The only
thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You can
display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same as a
continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to actually
accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust





From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Tue Oct 12 10:37:29 2004
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:37:29 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED5FD@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

At the risk of being contentious... if you want to look at the recordset as
if it was bound, and for it to behave as if it was bound... why not bind it?

;)

Roz

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] 
Sent: 12 October 2004 16:21
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The only
thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You can
display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same as a
continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to actually
accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and save
once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:48:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
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Joe/Charlotte,

I'm screwing around trying to teach myself some new tricks and am
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saying, well why not use VB, but that's not the point of this exercise.

So basically, I have an FE that basically opens up recordsets as needed
from the BE. Problem is I can't figure out how to populate a continuous
form which is one of the really cool features access has over other
development environments. List boxes and combos are fine as I create a
string and populate like a Value List.

So any ideas?

Vlad

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Foust
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Oct 12 10:50:43 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:50:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF91F@DISABILITYINS01>

Uh oh, here we go...

<grin>

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


At the risk of being contentious... if you want to look at the recordset as
if it was bound, and for it to behave as if it was bound... why not bind it?

;)

Roz

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] 
Sent: 12 October 2004 16:21
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The only
thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You can
display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same as a
continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to actually
accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and save
once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 12 10:59:49 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:59:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ABC@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If you set the recordset property, you still have a bound form.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


I've never tried this -- would the form's Recordset property work? 

Susan H. 

There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust



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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 12 11:06:09 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 02:06:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BBE@starfleet.unknown.local>

Susan,

I'm not sure what you mean by the "forms recordset" property. The Help
MS provides with this property is more to do with using it like:

Set rst = me.recordset................

But that is assuming you have a bound form to a query or table.

Is there another method you have in mind that I'm missing?

Thanks
Vlad

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


I've never tried this -- would the form's Recordset property work? 

Susan H. 

There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust



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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Oct 12 11:16:17 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:16:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ABC@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20041012161622.KEEO2494.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

So the issue is updatability? Forcing a snapshot Recordset should solve that
problem. 

Susan H. 

If you set the recordset property, you still have a bound form.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Oct 12 11:16:17 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:16:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ABC@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20041012161629.KEGY2494.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Oh... Oh... I see what they're after. I was confused -- forgive me. ;) 

Susan H. 

If you set the recordset property, you still have a bound form.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Oct 12 11:21:25 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:21:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BBE@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <20041012162126.KIYS2494.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

You create the recordset object, set the Form.Recordset property to equal
the recordset... 

Form.Recordset = rst

Works with controls too:

Form.Control.Recordset = rst!field

But then, I'm not sure I'm understanding the problem. So, you might want to
just ignore me. And, I'm not positive it would even work. 

What exactly is the issue? There are lots of ways to populate a form without
using a Recordset. Are you stuck with a Recordset object? Beyond that,
what's the problem -- you don't want the form to update the underlying
source? If that's the case, use a Snapshot Recordset object -- ADO's aren't
updateable, I don't remember about DAO though. 

Susan H. 

Susan,

I'm not sure what you mean by the "forms recordset" property. The Help MS
provides with this property is more to do with using it like:

Set rst = me.recordset................

But that is assuming you have a bound form to a query or table.

Is there another method you have in mind that I'm missing?




From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Tue Oct 12 11:59:38 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:59:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328038549@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKAEGOKIAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Vlad,

 I've done this in other languages, but not in Access, but the technique
would be similar. Basically, you'd be duplicating everything that Access
does for a bound form.

  You'd have a form with a series of unbound text boxes to form the rows.
Using the absolute position property, you'd keep track of which row is the
"top" row in your current display.  Initially, you'd paint the rows by
looping through the recordset from that point forward by the number of rows
on your form.

  In the past, I've maintained the current rows in an array, which made
scrolling up/down faster as I would only need to fetch the new record, copy
it to the array, then put the array on the screen.  Rather then moving
elements within the array, I'd simply keep track of which element was first
on the screen. For example, the if there were 15 rows and the user had
scrolled down 5 rows, element 6 would be the top row and element 5 would be
the last row.  I'd paint the screen by going 6 - 15, then 1 - 5.

  Updating was accomplished by having the use scroll a record to the middle
of the screen (it was surrounded by a box to make it stand out), then
pressing "U" for update.  This applied for deletes as well.  I also allowed
the user to page up/down one screen at a time.

  In this way, your in total control of everything.  However with A2K and
up, the ability to bind a recordset in code to a forms recordsource has
really taken away the last excuse for using an unbound form (putting work
into a transaction).

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of ACTEBS
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,

Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?

Any help much appreciated...

Vlad
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 12 12:12:28 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:12:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ABF@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The problem is still one of continuous forms.  The only thing that
creates a continuous form is a bound recordset.  With unbound forms, you
have to view one record at a time.  A continuous form is an optical
illusion of sorts, with only one set of controls on the form, so there
is no unbound equivalent unless you want to populate a list box or a
grid with the data.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:06 AM
To: access group
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Susan,

I'm not sure what you mean by the "forms recordset" property. The Help
MS provides with this property is more to do with using it like:

Set rst = me.recordset................

But that is assuming you have a bound form to a query or table.

Is there another method you have in mind that I'm missing?

Thanks
Vlad

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


I've never tried this -- would the form's Recordset property work? 

Susan H. 

There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust



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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Oct 12 12:24:02 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:24:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF920@DISABILITYINS01>

I just bought this book.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596005733/qid=1097601592/sr=2-1/ref=
pd_ka_2_1/102-0324991-1214550

I have just started reading it but it is definitely educational.  Let me
know how much I don't know.  ;-)

It also has a good tutorial about indexes and how they actually work, btrees
and all that, plus what happens in an index when you insert, delete and
update the data (field) the index is on.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Porter, Mark [mailto:MPorter at acsalaska.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 1:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] inner workings of operators


In the vein of optimization of SQL, I got a wealth of very specific
information from this book and it might be worth a look;

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/159059164X/qid=1097514715/sr=8
-4/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i4_xgl14/102-7440773-1342551?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

And SQL performance does matter, even in today's systems.  Your low use
database you create for 20 users today could become a component of a web
enabled database with global availability tomorrow.

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Susan Harkins
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:06 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
> 
> 
> Knowing how it works behind the scenes can often help you write more
> efficient code. Also, can help you decide which choices will 
> perform better.
> With today's system, it hardly matters anymore unless you're 
> dealing with
> zads of records, but it's still the kind of stuff developers 
> want to know. 
> 
> Susan H.  
> 
> 
> 
> Hi John
> 
> > Me too
> 
> Ehh ... why?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> > I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work 
> behind the 
> > scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just 
> > interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If 
> anyone knows 
> > of such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link.
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Oct 12 12:25:19 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:25:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ABF@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20041012172521.GVDG2444.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm probably missing something real obvious here, but this worked for me. 

I used AutoForm to create a quick form on Employees, then changed it to a
Continuous form and deleted the RecordSource property. All the controls
remained intact with their default Name and Control Source property
settings.  

Then, I used the following code to populate the form:

Private Sub Form_Load()
  Dim rst As ADODB.Recordset
  Set rst = New ADODB.Recordset
  rst.Open "Employees", CurrentProject.Connection, adOpenStatic
  Set Me.Recordset = rst
End Sub

Worked for me -- form is still continuous and it doesn't update the
underlying source. It's strictly a browsing form. If you wanted to update,
you could change the adOpenStatic setting. I didn't spend much time testing
it either, so I may be missing something. 

Susan H. 

The problem is still one of continuous forms.  The only thing that creates a
continuous form is a bound recordset.  With unbound forms, you have to view
one record at a time.  A continuous form is an optical illusion of sorts,
with only one set of controls on the form, so there is no unbound equivalent
unless you want to populate a list box or a grid with the data.




From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Oct 12 12:47:38 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:47:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF921@DISABILITYINS01>

What you are missing is that Vlad is a glutton for punishment.

<grin, duck and run>

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


I'm probably missing something real obvious here, but this worked for me. 

I used AutoForm to create a quick form on Employees, then changed it to a
Continuous form and deleted the RecordSource property. All the controls
remained intact with their default Name and Control Source property
settings.  

Then, I used the following code to populate the form:

Private Sub Form_Load()
  Dim rst As ADODB.Recordset
  Set rst = New ADODB.Recordset
  rst.Open "Employees", CurrentProject.Connection, adOpenStatic
  Set Me.Recordset = rst
End Sub

Worked for me -- form is still continuous and it doesn't update the
underlying source. It's strictly a browsing form. If you wanted to update,
you could change the adOpenStatic setting. I didn't spend much time testing
it either, so I may be missing something. 

Susan H. 

The problem is still one of continuous forms.  The only thing that creates a
continuous form is a bound recordset.  With unbound forms, you have to view
one record at a time.  A continuous form is an optical illusion of sorts,
with only one set of controls on the form, so there is no unbound equivalent
unless you want to populate a list box or a grid with the data.


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Oct 12 13:35:02 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:35:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF921@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <20041012183558.KBOV2383.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

So, is the solution that simple or did I miss something earlier? 

Susan H. 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form

What you are missing is that Vlad is a glutton for punishment.

<grin, duck and run>




From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Oct 12 13:51:34 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:51:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF922@DISABILITYINS01>

What you missed is that he specifically does NOT want to go the bound route,
just for the pure joy of learning something new.  Your solution is, in the
end, a bound solution.

If it were ME, I'd learn something useful like classes and withevents
(though he might very well be a pro at that by now).

;-)

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 2:35 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


So, is the solution that simple or did I miss something earlier? 

Susan H. 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form

What you are missing is that Vlad is a glutton for punishment.

<grin, duck and run>


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From Subscriptions at servicexp.com  Tue Oct 12 16:53:02 2004
From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:53:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Ohms Calculations
In-Reply-To: <956281682.20041012102626@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOCEKPECAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>

Thanks A Million!!


Robert Gracie
 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 4:26 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ohms Calculations


Hi Robert

Use Sqr(P / R) or (P / R)^(1 / 2)

/gustav

>  Has anyone already wrote out the calculations for the Ohms Laws in vb?

> i.e...

> P / E = I

> Square Root of (P / R) = I

> E / R = I

> etc...

> Thanks 
> Robert Gracie

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Oct 12 20:46:10 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:46:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
Message-ID: <005401c4b0c6$6ade4020$6501a8c0@user>

I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....


Code:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Public Function EmailWebLetterRecipients()
Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String
Dim VarEmailto As Variant
Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer
Dim db As Database
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Set db = CurrentDb


StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
  
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE

With rs
    .MoveFirst
    .Edit

     VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
    .Update
    .close
End With
'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)

'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)

Normal_exit:
    DoCmd.SetWarnings True
    Exit Function

Err_Handler:
    MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "]  " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message"
    Resume Normal_exit
End Function


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Kath Pelletti
Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
KP at SDSOnline.net

From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Oct 12 21:31:41 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:31:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <005401c4b0c6$6ade4020$6501a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <200410130231.i9D2VnXH020887@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Kath
Is this DAO?
If it is I think you have to declare the db bit somewhere

You have Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)

But I cant see a dimension of the db paramter in you code (Is your code
snipped?)

If it's missing try db = currentdb or something like that
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:46 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset

I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep getting
an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....


Code:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Public Function EmailWebLetterRecipients() Dim strerrormsg, strsql,
StrQueryName As String Dim VarEmailto As Variant Dim intrecno,
IntWebLetterID As Integer Dim db As Database Dim rs As DAO.Recordset Set db
= CurrentDb


StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
  
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open recordset
on saved query        ERROR HERE

With rs
    .MoveFirst
    .Edit

     VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
    .Update
    .close
End With
'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)

'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)

Normal_exit:
    DoCmd.SetWarnings True
    Exit Function

Err_Handler:
    MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "]  " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0,
strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message"
    Resume Normal_exit
End Function


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Kath Pelletti
Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
KP at SDSOnline.net
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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 12 21:50:28 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:50:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BBF@starfleet.unknown.local>

Kath,

Maybe like this:

Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String
Dim VarEmailto As Variant
Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer
Dim db As DAO.Database '>>>>>>>>>I changed this
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb


StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
  
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open
recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE

'>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Made a few changes here
If rs.recordcount > 0 then
Rs.movefirst
	Do Until rs.EOF
		With rs
		    .Edit
     			VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
    		    .Update	
		End With
	rs.movenext
	loop
End if

'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)

'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)

Rs.close
Set rs = nothing
Db.close
Set db = nothing

HTH. You will need to check over it as I did it off the top of my head,
but you'll get the idea anyway...

Vlad


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:46 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs =
' After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....


Code:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------

Public Function EmailWebLetterRecipients()
Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String
Dim VarEmailto As Variant
Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer
Dim db As Database
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Set db = CurrentDb


StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
  
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open
recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE

With rs
    .MoveFirst
    .Edit

     VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
    .Update
    .close
End With
'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)

'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)

Normal_exit:
    DoCmd.SetWarnings True
    Exit Function

Err_Handler:
    MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "]  " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0,
strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message"
    Resume Normal_exit
End Function


------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------

Kath Pelletti
Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
KP at SDSOnline.net
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Oct 12 22:00:23 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:00:23 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <005401c4b0c6$6ade4020$6501a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <416D26E7.19952.6509EBC@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

> I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
> After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
> 

The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are 
probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for 
your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to 
store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()" 
and set the value of the function before calling the query  with 
"retval = StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just
"StoredValue Forms!myForm.myControl"








-- 
Stuart




From dw-murphy at cox.net  Tue Oct 12 22:04:01 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (dw-murphy at cox.net)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 23:04:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
Message-ID: <20041013030401.GFKB24021.fed1rmmtao01.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

Hi Kath,

You need to add your query parameters to the parameters collection.  I am away from my references now so can't give a good example, but look in the Developers Handbook under recordsets based on queries.  They give the code for doing this.  It is DAO.

Doug
> 
> From: "ACTEBS" <actebs at actebs.com.au>
> Date: 2004/10/12 Tue PM 10:50:28 EDT
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> 	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
> 
> Kath,
> 
> Maybe like this:
> 
> Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String
> Dim VarEmailto As Variant
> Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer
> Dim db As DAO.Database '>>>>>>>>>I changed this
> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
> 
> Set db = CurrentDb
> 
> 
> StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
>   
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open
> recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE
> 
> '>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Made a few changes here
> If rs.recordcount > 0 then
> Rs.movefirst
> 	Do Until rs.EOF
> 		With rs
> 		    .Edit
>      			VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
>     		    .Update	
> 		End With
> 	rs.movenext
> 	loop
> End if
> 
> 'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)
> 
> 'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)
> 
> Rs.close
> Set rs = nothing
> Db.close
> Set db = nothing
> 
> HTH. You will need to check over it as I did it off the top of my head,
> but you'll get the idea anyway...
> 
> Vlad
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:46 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
> 
> 
> I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
> getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs =
> ' After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
> 
> 
> Code:
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> 
> Public Function EmailWebLetterRecipients()
> Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String
> Dim VarEmailto As Variant
> Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer
> Dim db As Database
> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
> Set db = CurrentDb
> 
> 
> StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
>   
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open
> recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE
> 
> With rs
>     .MoveFirst
>     .Edit
> 
>      VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
>     .Update
>     .close
> End With
> 'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)
> 
> 'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)
> 
> Normal_exit:
>     DoCmd.SetWarnings True
>     Exit Function
> 
> Err_Handler:
>     MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "]  " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0,
> strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message"
>     Resume Normal_exit
> End Function
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> 
> Kath Pelletti
> Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
> Ph: 9505-6714
> Fax: 9505-6430
> KP at SDSOnline.net
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Oct 12 22:05:11 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:05:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
References: <200410130231.i9D2VnXH020887@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <009801c4b0d1$74607b30$6501a8c0@user>

Darren - thanks for you help offline....

It appears that the code will run when I replace this query with a simpler one - so I will play with that.....

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darren DICK 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:31 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  Hi Kath
  Is this DAO?
  If it is I think you have to declare the db bit somewhere

  You have Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)

  But I cant see a dimension of the db paramter in you code (Is your code
  snipped?)

  If it's missing try db = currentdb or something like that
   

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:46 AM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset

  I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep getting
  an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
  After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....


  Code:

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  ----

  Public Function EmailWebLetterRecipients() Dim strerrormsg, strsql,
  StrQueryName As String Dim VarEmailto As Variant Dim intrecno,
  IntWebLetterID As Integer Dim db As Database Dim rs As DAO.Recordset Set db
  = CurrentDb


  StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
    
  Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open recordset
  on saved query        ERROR HERE

  With rs
      .MoveFirst
      .Edit

       VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
      .Update
      .close
  End With
  'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)

  'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)

  Normal_exit:
      DoCmd.SetWarnings True
      Exit Function

  Err_Handler:
      MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "]  " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0,
  strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message"
      Resume Normal_exit
  End Function


  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  ----

  Kath Pelletti
  Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
  Ph: 9505-6714
  Fax: 9505-6430
  KP at SDSOnline.net
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Oct 12 22:08:17 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:08:17 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BBF@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <00a001c4b0d1$e32988e0$6501a8c0@user>

Thanks Vlad - I thought that was the problem too....but it seems that it just doesn't like my query even though the query runs fine in the normal access window. 

I may have to change it to an sql statement. Sigh - I had already tried that this morning but just couldn't get the syntax right ....

I will have another go at the sql syntax and if I can't nail it post back.

Thanks
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ACTEBS 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:50 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  Kath,

  Maybe like this:

  Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String
  Dim VarEmailto As Variant
  Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer
  Dim db As DAO.Database '>>>>>>>>>I changed this
  Dim rs As DAO.Recordset

  Set db = CurrentDb


  StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
    
  Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open
  recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE

  '>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Made a few changes here
  If rs.recordcount > 0 then
  Rs.movefirst
  Do Until rs.EOF
  With rs
      .Edit
       VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
          .Update 
  End With
  rs.movenext
  loop
  End if

  'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)

  'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)

  Rs.close
  Set rs = nothing
  Db.close
  Set db = nothing

  HTH. You will need to check over it as I did it off the top of my head,
  but you'll get the idea anyway...

  Vlad


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:46 AM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
  getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs =
  ' After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....


  Code:

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
  --------

  Public Function EmailWebLetterRecipients()
  Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String
  Dim VarEmailto As Variant
  Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer
  Dim db As Database
  Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
  Set db = CurrentDb


  StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
    
  Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open
  recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE

  With rs
      .MoveFirst
      .Edit

       VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
      .Update
      .close
  End With
  'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)

  'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)

  Normal_exit:
      DoCmd.SetWarnings True
      Exit Function

  Err_Handler:
      MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "]  " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0,
  strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message"
      Resume Normal_exit
  End Function


  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
  --------

  Kath Pelletti
  Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
  Ph: 9505-6714
  Fax: 9505-6430
  KP at SDSOnline.net
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Oct 12 22:28:42 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:28:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
References: <416D26E7.19952.6509EBC@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <00bc01c4b0d4$bd165810$6501a8c0@user>

Yes - there is a form parameter in the query so I'll have to think over that logic then as the query is used by multiple processes...

The static function sounds a good solution.
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stuart McLachlan 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

  > I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
  > After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
  > 

  The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are 
  probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for 
  your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

  My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to 
  store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()" 
  and set the value of the function before calling the query  with 
  "retval = StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just
  "StoredValue Forms!myForm.myControl"








  -- 
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Oct 12 22:44:36 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:44:36 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <416D26E7.19952.6509EBC@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200410130344.i9D3iiXH003971@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hey Andrew
I'm back from leave
So...when's a good time to meet??

Talk soon

Denz
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset

On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

> I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
> After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
> 

The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are
probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for
your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to
store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()" 
and set the value of the function before calling the query  with "retval =
StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just "StoredValue
Forms!myForm.myControl"








--
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Oct 12 22:50:15 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:50:15 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
References: <416D26E7.19952.6509EBC@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <00e601c4b0d7$bfcc7000$6501a8c0@user>

Done, done and done. Thanks all for your help. I had no idea that a form criterion parameter couldn't be used in that way and could have wasted even more time. 

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stuart McLachlan 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

  > I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
  > After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
  > 

  The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are 
  probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for 
  your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

  My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to 
  store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()" 
  and set the value of the function before calling the query  with 
  "retval = StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just
  "StoredValue Forms!myForm.myControl"








  -- 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Oct 12 23:27:38 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:27:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <00e601c4b0d7$bfcc7000$6501a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <000301c4b0dc$fb9fbce0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

BTW, the concept of the "static stored value" can be made even more useful
if you use a collection to store the value, keyed on the name of the
variable.  In that way you can use a single function to set / retrieve a
multitude of different stored values.

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private mcolFilter As Collection
Private mblnFltrInitialized As Boolean
Public Function Fltr(lstrName As String, Optional lvarValue As Variant) As
Variant
On Error GoTo Err_Fltr
    'This sets up the collection if it isn't already initialized
    If mblnFltrInitialized = False Then
        Set mcolFilter = New Collection
        mblnFltrInitialized = True        
    End If

    If IsMissing(lvarValue) Then
        'This path is used to retrieve a value from the collection
        On Error Resume Next
        Fltr = mcolFilter(lstrName)
        If Err <> 0 Then
            Fltr = Null
        End If
    Else
        'This path is used to store a variable on the collection
        On Error Resume Next
        mcolFilter.Remove lstrName
        mcolFilter.Add lvarValue, lstrName
        Fltr = lvarValue
    End If
Exit_Fltr:
Exit Function
Err_Fltr:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function basFltrFunctions.Fltr"
        Resume Exit_Fltr
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

One function can now be called with a "variable name" and a value to store a
value into a "variable".  

	fltr MyValue, "MyVarName"

MyValue can be anything at all, string numeric etc.

If the variable name already exists, then it is removed and replaced with
the new value.  This effectively stores the value passed in even if there
was already a value in the collection keyed on that name.

To retrieve a value, just call the function passing in the name of the
"variable" you want the value of.  If there is no such variable name a null
will be returned.

	MyVar = fltr("MyVarName")

I don't remember right off hand whether a control or form can be passed in
to a variant though I believe it can.  Thus you need to be careful that you
either do not pass in pointers to objects or that you make sure you clean
out the collection before terminating your program.  If there are no
objects, it doesn't matter, i.e. the collection and its values can be
cleaned up by VB as the app closes.  If there are pointers to objects in
there however VB may not correctly clean up the collection and the program
may hang instead of exiting.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


Done, done and done. Thanks all for your help. I had no idea that a form
criterion parameter couldn't be used in that way and could have wasted even
more time. 

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stuart McLachlan 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

  > I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
  > After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
  > 

  The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are 
  probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for

  your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

  My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to

  store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()"

  and set the value of the function before calling the query  with 
  "retval = StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just
  "StoredValue Forms!myForm.myControl"








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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Oct 12 23:47:09 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:47:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <000301c4b0dc$fb9fbce0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000401c4b0df$b29d37e0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Oops, sorry, the call to set a value would be 

	Fltr "MyVarName", MyVarValue

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


BTW, the concept of the "static stored value" can be made even more useful
if you use a collection to store the value, keyed on the name of the
variable.  In that way you can use a single function to set / retrieve a
multitude of different stored values.

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private mcolFilter As Collection
Private mblnFltrInitialized As Boolean
Public Function Fltr(lstrName As String, Optional lvarValue As Variant) As
Variant On Error GoTo Err_Fltr
    'This sets up the collection if it isn't already initialized
    If mblnFltrInitialized = False Then
        Set mcolFilter = New Collection
        mblnFltrInitialized = True        
    End If

    If IsMissing(lvarValue) Then
        'This path is used to retrieve a value from the collection
        On Error Resume Next
        Fltr = mcolFilter(lstrName)
        If Err <> 0 Then
            Fltr = Null
        End If
    Else
        'This path is used to store a variable on the collection
        On Error Resume Next
        mcolFilter.Remove lstrName
        mcolFilter.Add lvarValue, lstrName
        Fltr = lvarValue
    End If
Exit_Fltr:
Exit Function
Err_Fltr:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function basFltrFunctions.Fltr"
        Resume Exit_Fltr
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

One function can now be called with a "variable name" and a value to store a
value into a "variable".  

	fltr MyValue, "MyVarName"

MyValue can be anything at all, string numeric etc.

If the variable name already exists, then it is removed and replaced with
the new value.  This effectively stores the value passed in even if there
was already a value in the collection keyed on that name.

To retrieve a value, just call the function passing in the name of the
"variable" you want the value of.  If there is no such variable name a null
will be returned.

	MyVar = fltr("MyVarName")

I don't remember right off hand whether a control or form can be passed in
to a variant though I believe it can.  Thus you need to be careful that you
either do not pass in pointers to objects or that you make sure you clean
out the collection before terminating your program.  If there are no
objects, it doesn't matter, i.e. the collection and its values can be
cleaned up by VB as the app closes.  If there are pointers to objects in
there however VB may not correctly clean up the collection and the program
may hang instead of exiting.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


Done, done and done. Thanks all for your help. I had no idea that a form
criterion parameter couldn't be used in that way and could have wasted even
more time. 

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stuart McLachlan 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

  > I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
  > After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
  > 

  The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are 
  probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for

  your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

  My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to

  store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()"

  and set the value of the function before calling the query  with 
  "retval = StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just
  "StoredValue Forms!myForm.myControl"








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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Oct 12 23:51:08 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 14:51:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <200410130344.i9D3iiXH003971@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <200410130451.i9D4pGXH011829@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hey Andrew
I'm back from leave
So...when's a good time to meet??

Talk soon

Denz 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset

Hey Andrew
I'm back from leave
So...when's a good time to meet??

Talk soon

Denz
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset

On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

> I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
> After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
> 

The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are
probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for
your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to
store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()" 
and set the value of the function before calling the query  with "retval =
StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just "StoredValue
Forms!myForm.myControl"








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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Wed Oct 13 06:11:28 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:11:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328038551@starfleet.unknown.local>

Susan,

You're a god. What was stuffing things up was that I was doing:

Set Me.RecordSource = rst

Instead of:

Set Me.Recordset = rst

Thanks
Vlad


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 3:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


I'm probably missing something real obvious here, but this worked for
me. 

I used AutoForm to create a quick form on Employees, then changed it to
a Continuous form and deleted the RecordSource property. All the
controls remained intact with their default Name and Control Source
property settings.  

Then, I used the following code to populate the form:

Private Sub Form_Load()
  Dim rst As ADODB.Recordset
  Set rst = New ADODB.Recordset
  rst.Open "Employees", CurrentProject.Connection, adOpenStatic
  Set Me.Recordset = rst
End Sub

Worked for me -- form is still continuous and it doesn't update the
underlying source. It's strictly a browsing form. If you wanted to
update, you could change the adOpenStatic setting. I didn't spend much
time testing it either, so I may be missing something. 

Susan H. 

The problem is still one of continuous forms.  The only thing that
creates a continuous form is a bound recordset.  With unbound forms, you
have to view one record at a time.  A continuous form is an optical
illusion of sorts, with only one set of controls on the form, so there
is no unbound equivalent unless you want to populate a list box or a
grid with the data.


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct 13 08:25:15 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:25:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328038551@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <20041013132549.YRXM2403.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Glad to help. :) 

Susan H. 

Susan,

You're a god. What was stuffing things up was that I was doing:

Set Me.RecordSource = rst

Instead of:

Set Me.Recordset = rst




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Oct 13 09:06:45 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:06:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D002@main2.marlow.com>

Ah, the ol' 'Doing it just because you want to know you can do it!'
philosophy.  Welcome to my domain! <grin>

Here's a few pointers on what you are trying to do.  Number one, no, you
can't.  You can't 'trick' Access into using a continuous form, with unbound
data.  If you create a recordset, and set the form's Recordset to your
recordset, you still have a bound form.  The 'continuous form' feature of
the form, is similar to the navigation buttons.  They only work while Access
is in control of the data the form represents. (bound).

You can, however, roll your own unbound version of a continuous form.  What
is a continuous form?  It's just a form that displays more then one record
at a time.  To replicate that in an unbound manner, you simply have to make
'copies' of the controls.  This is somewhat of a pain, since Access doesn't
really allow for control arrays (like VB does), so you have to create the
controls you need at design time, and hide the ones you aren't using.
Scrolling through the records is simply a matter of keeping track of your
'pointer' record.  ie, if you have 6 'rows' of controls, to display a record
(one record per row), and you have 12 records to display, at the beginning,
record 1 will be in the first row (2 in the 2nd, etc...).  Moving down one,
now record 2 will be in the first row, and so on.  I have done this before,
but didn't scroll like that, I put in left/right buttons that let you jump
to the next 'set' of records (moving right would put the 7th record in row
1).

Why in the world would you want to do this for practical purposes?  Well,
the time I built my own, it was because I needed to create a dynamic
combobox, that didn't work right in an bound form.  I needed the combo box
to display only the vendors available to buy a particular product from.  In
a single form, that was fine, but when I went with a continuous form, the
combobox didn't 'act' seperately, changing one changed them all (because
that's how continuous forms work, it's not really a control array...).  With
an unbound solution, I was able to set each combo box individually.  It took
another hour to two to build the form that way, but it accomplished the
goal, and quite frankly was just as functional as a bound form. (for what I
needed to use it for...)

Hope this helps a little in your quest for 'Doing it just because you want
to know you can do it!'! <Grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:48 AM
To: access group
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


**I originally sent this exclusively to Joe for some reason. I clicked
reply without checking the "To" field. Sorry Joe...**

Joe/Charlotte,

I'm screwing around trying to teach myself some new tricks and am
creating a totally unbound app using A2K. I know, I know, everyone is
saying, well why not use VB, but that's not the point of this exercise.

So basically, I have an FE that basically opens up recordsets as needed
from the BE. Problem is I can't figure out how to populate a continuous
form which is one of the really cool features access has over other
development environments. List boxes and combos are fine as I create a
string and populate like a Value List.

So any ideas?

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Oct 13 09:15:37 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:15:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D005@main2.marlow.com>

Yeah, the archives I host do use a homemade memo field search engine.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] inner workings of operators


Hi Eric

> Ohwell must be someone able to find more... Gustav?:-)

I would be happy to do so - if I only knew what to look for?

I mean - I know what In and Or mean but can't see how I can influence
a lot on how they work "behind the scenes", neither do I care that
much.

Am I missing something?
I'm not about to build my own search engine - but would that be a
purpose? Could be nice with a quick search in memo fields. Hasn't Drew
worked with this?

/gustav


> I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
> scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
> interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
> such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 

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From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Oct 13 09:22:35 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:22:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF925@DISABILITYINS01>

I was wondering when you would check in!

;-)

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Ah, the ol' 'Doing it just because you want to know you can do it!'
philosophy.  Welcome to my domain! <grin>

Here's a few pointers on what you are trying to do.  Number one, no, you
can't.  You can't 'trick' Access into using a continuous form, with unbound
data.  If you create a recordset, and set the form's Recordset to your
recordset, you still have a bound form.  The 'continuous form' feature of
the form, is similar to the navigation buttons.  They only work while Access
is in control of the data the form represents. (bound).

You can, however, roll your own unbound version of a continuous form.  What
is a continuous form?  It's just a form that displays more then one record
at a time.  To replicate that in an unbound manner, you simply have to make
'copies' of the controls.  This is somewhat of a pain, since Access doesn't
really allow for control arrays (like VB does), so you have to create the
controls you need at design time, and hide the ones you aren't using.
Scrolling through the records is simply a matter of keeping track of your
'pointer' record.  ie, if you have 6 'rows' of controls, to display a record
(one record per row), and you have 12 records to display, at the beginning,
record 1 will be in the first row (2 in the 2nd, etc...).  Moving down one,
now record 2 will be in the first row, and so on.  I have done this before,
but didn't scroll like that, I put in left/right buttons that let you jump
to the next 'set' of records (moving right would put the 7th record in row
1).

Why in the world would you want to do this for practical purposes?  Well,
the time I built my own, it was because I needed to create a dynamic
combobox, that didn't work right in an bound form.  I needed the combo box
to display only the vendors available to buy a particular product from.  In
a single form, that was fine, but when I went with a continuous form, the
combobox didn't 'act' seperately, changing one changed them all (because
that's how continuous forms work, it's not really a control array...).  With
an unbound solution, I was able to set each combo box individually.  It took
another hour to two to build the form that way, but it accomplished the
goal, and quite frankly was just as functional as a bound form. (for what I
needed to use it for...)

Hope this helps a little in your quest for 'Doing it just because you want
to know you can do it!'! <Grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:48 AM
To: access group
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


**I originally sent this exclusively to Joe for some reason. I clicked
reply without checking the "To" field. Sorry Joe...**

Joe/Charlotte,

I'm screwing around trying to teach myself some new tricks and am
creating a totally unbound app using A2K. I know, I know, everyone is
saying, well why not use VB, but that's not the point of this exercise.

So basically, I have an FE that basically opens up recordsets as needed
from the BE. Problem is I can't figure out how to populate a continuous
form which is one of the really cool features access has over other
development environments. List boxes and combos are fine as I create a
string and populate like a Value List.

So any ideas?

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Wed Oct 13 09:49:02 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:49:02 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC0@starfleet.unknown.local>

Drew,

They just don't understand how our minds work do they?... ; )

I knew when I posted this that I would be ridiculed, but it's nice to
have an understanding soul to the strange workings and motivations of
the eccentric mind that we share isn't it Drew?...

I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while
the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains
totally unbound.

One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total
flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when the
app is started...

Vlad

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Thursday, 14 October 2004 12:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Ah, the ol' 'Doing it just because you want to know you can do it!'
philosophy.  Welcome to my domain! <grin>

Here's a few pointers on what you are trying to do.  Number one, no, you
can't.  You can't 'trick' Access into using a continuous form, with
unbound data.  If you create a recordset, and set the form's Recordset
to your recordset, you still have a bound form.  The 'continuous form'
feature of the form, is similar to the navigation buttons.  They only
work while Access is in control of the data the form represents.
(bound).

You can, however, roll your own unbound version of a continuous form.
What is a continuous form?  It's just a form that displays more then one
record at a time.  To replicate that in an unbound manner, you simply
have to make 'copies' of the controls.  This is somewhat of a pain,
since Access doesn't really allow for control arrays (like VB does), so
you have to create the controls you need at design time, and hide the
ones you aren't using. Scrolling through the records is simply a matter
of keeping track of your 'pointer' record.  ie, if you have 6 'rows' of
controls, to display a record (one record per row), and you have 12
records to display, at the beginning, record 1 will be in the first row
(2 in the 2nd, etc...).  Moving down one, now record 2 will be in the
first row, and so on.  I have done this before, but didn't scroll like
that, I put in left/right buttons that let you jump to the next 'set' of
records (moving right would put the 7th record in row 1).

Why in the world would you want to do this for practical purposes?
Well, the time I built my own, it was because I needed to create a
dynamic combobox, that didn't work right in an bound form.  I needed the
combo box to display only the vendors available to buy a particular
product from.  In a single form, that was fine, but when I went with a
continuous form, the combobox didn't 'act' seperately, changing one
changed them all (because that's how continuous forms work, it's not
really a control array...).  With an unbound solution, I was able to set
each combo box individually.  It took another hour to two to build the
form that way, but it accomplished the goal, and quite frankly was just
as functional as a bound form. (for what I needed to use it for...)

Hope this helps a little in your quest for 'Doing it just because you
want to know you can do it!'! <Grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:48 AM
To: access group
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


**I originally sent this exclusively to Joe for some reason. I clicked
reply without checking the "To" field. Sorry Joe...**

Joe/Charlotte,

I'm screwing around trying to teach myself some new tricks and am
creating a totally unbound app using A2K. I know, I know, everyone is
saying, well why not use VB, but that's not the point of this exercise.

So basically, I have an FE that basically opens up recordsets as needed
from the BE. Problem is I can't figure out how to populate a continuous
form which is one of the really cool features access has over other
development environments. List boxes and combos are fine as I create a
string and populate like a Value List.

So any ideas?

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Oct 13 09:53:49 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:53:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D007@main2.marlow.com>

Been having too much fun off list.  Just getting over a cold right now, so
my head is still spinning a bit.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


I was wondering when you would check in!

;-)

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Ah, the ol' 'Doing it just because you want to know you can do it!'
philosophy.  Welcome to my domain! <grin>

Here's a few pointers on what you are trying to do.  Number one, no, you
can't.  You can't 'trick' Access into using a continuous form, with unbound
data.  If you create a recordset, and set the form's Recordset to your
recordset, you still have a bound form.  The 'continuous form' feature of
the form, is similar to the navigation buttons.  They only work while Access
is in control of the data the form represents. (bound).

You can, however, roll your own unbound version of a continuous form.  What
is a continuous form?  It's just a form that displays more then one record
at a time.  To replicate that in an unbound manner, you simply have to make
'copies' of the controls.  This is somewhat of a pain, since Access doesn't
really allow for control arrays (like VB does), so you have to create the
controls you need at design time, and hide the ones you aren't using.
Scrolling through the records is simply a matter of keeping track of your
'pointer' record.  ie, if you have 6 'rows' of controls, to display a record
(one record per row), and you have 12 records to display, at the beginning,
record 1 will be in the first row (2 in the 2nd, etc...).  Moving down one,
now record 2 will be in the first row, and so on.  I have done this before,
but didn't scroll like that, I put in left/right buttons that let you jump
to the next 'set' of records (moving right would put the 7th record in row
1).

Why in the world would you want to do this for practical purposes?  Well,
the time I built my own, it was because I needed to create a dynamic
combobox, that didn't work right in an bound form.  I needed the combo box
to display only the vendors available to buy a particular product from.  In
a single form, that was fine, but when I went with a continuous form, the
combobox didn't 'act' seperately, changing one changed them all (because
that's how continuous forms work, it's not really a control array...).  With
an unbound solution, I was able to set each combo box individually.  It took
another hour to two to build the form that way, but it accomplished the
goal, and quite frankly was just as functional as a bound form. (for what I
needed to use it for...)

Hope this helps a little in your quest for 'Doing it just because you want
to know you can do it!'! <Grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:48 AM
To: access group
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


**I originally sent this exclusively to Joe for some reason. I clicked
reply without checking the "To" field. Sorry Joe...**

Joe/Charlotte,

I'm screwing around trying to teach myself some new tricks and am
creating a totally unbound app using A2K. I know, I know, everyone is
saying, well why not use VB, but that's not the point of this exercise.

So basically, I have an FE that basically opens up recordsets as needed
from the BE. Problem is I can't figure out how to populate a continuous
form which is one of the really cool features access has over other
development environments. List boxes and combos are fine as I create a
string and populate like a Value List.

So any ideas?

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Oct 13 10:04:34 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:04:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF926@DISABILITYINS01>

Hmmm.... You share Drew's eccentric mind?  Is Vlad an alter ego?  Or is Drew
the alter ego?  How many more of you are there in that eccentric mind?

I believe this a first for the list, I can't recall ever seeing a split
personality here before.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Drew,

They just don't understand how our minds work do they?... ; )

I knew when I posted this that I would be ridiculed, but it's nice to
have an understanding soul to the strange workings and motivations of
the eccentric mind that we share isn't it Drew?...

I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while
the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains
totally unbound.

One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total
flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when the
app is started...

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Thursday, 14 October 2004 12:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Ah, the ol' 'Doing it just because you want to know you can do it!'
philosophy.  Welcome to my domain! <grin>

Here's a few pointers on what you are trying to do.  Number one, no, you
can't.  You can't 'trick' Access into using a continuous form, with
unbound data.  If you create a recordset, and set the form's Recordset
to your recordset, you still have a bound form.  The 'continuous form'
feature of the form, is similar to the navigation buttons.  They only
work while Access is in control of the data the form represents.
(bound).

You can, however, roll your own unbound version of a continuous form.
What is a continuous form?  It's just a form that displays more then one
record at a time.  To replicate that in an unbound manner, you simply
have to make 'copies' of the controls.  This is somewhat of a pain,
since Access doesn't really allow for control arrays (like VB does), so
you have to create the controls you need at design time, and hide the
ones you aren't using. Scrolling through the records is simply a matter
of keeping track of your 'pointer' record.  ie, if you have 6 'rows' of
controls, to display a record (one record per row), and you have 12
records to display, at the beginning, record 1 will be in the first row
(2 in the 2nd, etc...).  Moving down one, now record 2 will be in the
first row, and so on.  I have done this before, but didn't scroll like
that, I put in left/right buttons that let you jump to the next 'set' of
records (moving right would put the 7th record in row 1).

Why in the world would you want to do this for practical purposes?
Well, the time I built my own, it was because I needed to create a
dynamic combobox, that didn't work right in an bound form.  I needed the
combo box to display only the vendors available to buy a particular
product from.  In a single form, that was fine, but when I went with a
continuous form, the combobox didn't 'act' seperately, changing one
changed them all (because that's how continuous forms work, it's not
really a control array...).  With an unbound solution, I was able to set
each combo box individually.  It took another hour to two to build the
form that way, but it accomplished the goal, and quite frankly was just
as functional as a bound form. (for what I needed to use it for...)

Hope this helps a little in your quest for 'Doing it just because you
want to know you can do it!'! <Grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:48 AM
To: access group
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


**I originally sent this exclusively to Joe for some reason. I clicked
reply without checking the "To" field. Sorry Joe...**

Joe/Charlotte,

I'm screwing around trying to teach myself some new tricks and am
creating a totally unbound app using A2K. I know, I know, everyone is
saying, well why not use VB, but that's not the point of this exercise.

So basically, I have an FE that basically opens up recordsets as needed
from the BE. Problem is I can't figure out how to populate a continuous
form which is one of the really cool features access has over other
development environments. List boxes and combos are fine as I create a
string and populate like a Value List.

So any ideas?

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 13 10:19:32 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 17:19:32 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC0@starfleet.unknown.local>
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC0@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <4630591338.20041013171932@cactus.dk>

Hi Vlad

> I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while
> the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains
> totally unbound.

Yes, this is nice for a read-only application ... do these count for
90% of all frontends?

And why bother with updating of records - users are sooo demanding!
Saves a lot of multi-user troubles as well.

> One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total
> flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when the
> app is started...

Yes, much more fun to deal with the links any time a form is to be
loaded. You could create a class for that ...

/gustav



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct 13 10:36:09 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:36:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <4630591338.20041013171932@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041013153612.BCXX2420.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, you could have it both ways -- just create the right recordset. ;) I
find myself using the Recordset property more and more. 

I have to ask though, why is bound a problem?????????

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHHHHAAH <sorry>

Susan H. 

Hi Vlad

> I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while 
> the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains 
> totally unbound.

Yes, this is nice for a read-only application ... do these count for 90% of
all frontends?

And why bother with updating of records - users are sooo demanding!
Saves a lot of multi-user troubles as well.

> One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total 
> flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when 
> the app is started...




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct 13 10:36:09 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:36:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF926@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <20041013153623.BDAE2420.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

You jarred Rabbit out of a sound sleep with that one... She generally likes
to be the first, no matter what it is... 

Thanks JC, she's going to chatter at me all day now. :) 

Susan H. 

I believe this a first for the list, I can't recall ever seeing a split
personality here before.




From actebs at actebs.com.au  Wed Oct 13 10:44:32 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 01:44:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC1@starfleet.unknown.local>

Hi Gustav,

>>Yes, this is nice for a read-only application ... do these count for
90% of all frontends?

With DAO it works like a normal bound app. I agree with ADO it is
useless. I'm doing this with DAO so it serves it's purpose...

>>Yes, much more fun to deal with the links any time a form is to be
loaded. You could create a class for that ...

Only need to do this once. The app is loaded and the path automatically
stored within a text box on the main menu. Only have to read this value
when making a connection eg:

Set dbs = Opendatabase(Forms!frmMainMenu!txtAppPath)

It works quite well...

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, 14 October 2004 1:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi Vlad

> I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while 
> the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains 
> totally unbound.

Yes, this is nice for a read-only application ... do these count for 90%
of all frontends?

And why bother with updating of records - users are sooo demanding!
Saves a lot of multi-user troubles as well.

> One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total 
> flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when 
> the app is started...

Yes, much more fun to deal with the links any time a form is to be
loaded. You could create a class for that ...

/gustav

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Oct 13 10:45:27 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:45:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AC6@infoserver01.infostat.local>

LOL
Not only a split personality, but one who talks to himself! ;-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:05 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hmmm.... You share Drew's eccentric mind?  Is Vlad an alter ego?  Or is
Drew the alter ego?  How many more of you are there in that eccentric
mind?

I believe this a first for the list, I can't recall ever seeing a split
personality here before.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Drew,

They just don't understand how our minds work do they?... ; )

I knew when I posted this that I would be ridiculed, but it's nice to
have an understanding soul to the strange workings and motivations of
the eccentric mind that we share isn't it Drew?...

I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while
the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains
totally unbound.

One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total
flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when the
app is started...

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Thursday, 14 October 2004 12:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Ah, the ol' 'Doing it just because you want to know you can do it!'
philosophy.  Welcome to my domain! <grin>

Here's a few pointers on what you are trying to do.  Number one, no, you
can't.  You can't 'trick' Access into using a continuous form, with
unbound data.  If you create a recordset, and set the form's Recordset
to your recordset, you still have a bound form.  The 'continuous form'
feature of the form, is similar to the navigation buttons.  They only
work while Access is in control of the data the form represents.
(bound).

You can, however, roll your own unbound version of a continuous form.
What is a continuous form?  It's just a form that displays more then one
record at a time.  To replicate that in an unbound manner, you simply
have to make 'copies' of the controls.  This is somewhat of a pain,
since Access doesn't really allow for control arrays (like VB does), so
you have to create the controls you need at design time, and hide the
ones you aren't using. Scrolling through the records is simply a matter
of keeping track of your 'pointer' record.  ie, if you have 6 'rows' of
controls, to display a record (one record per row), and you have 12
records to display, at the beginning, record 1 will be in the first row
(2 in the 2nd, etc...).  Moving down one, now record 2 will be in the
first row, and so on.  I have done this before, but didn't scroll like
that, I put in left/right buttons that let you jump to the next 'set' of
records (moving right would put the 7th record in row 1).

Why in the world would you want to do this for practical purposes? Well,
the time I built my own, it was because I needed to create a dynamic
combobox, that didn't work right in an bound form.  I needed the combo
box to display only the vendors available to buy a particular product
from.  In a single form, that was fine, but when I went with a
continuous form, the combobox didn't 'act' seperately, changing one
changed them all (because that's how continuous forms work, it's not
really a control array...).  With an unbound solution, I was able to set
each combo box individually.  It took another hour to two to build the
form that way, but it accomplished the goal, and quite frankly was just
as functional as a bound form. (for what I needed to use it for...)

Hope this helps a little in your quest for 'Doing it just because you
want to know you can do it!'! <Grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:48 AM
To: access group
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


**I originally sent this exclusively to Joe for some reason. I clicked
reply without checking the "To" field. Sorry Joe...**

Joe/Charlotte,

I'm screwing around trying to teach myself some new tricks and am
creating a totally unbound app using A2K. I know, I know, everyone is
saying, well why not use VB, but that's not the point of this exercise.

So basically, I have an FE that basically opens up recordsets as needed
from the BE. Problem is I can't figure out how to populate a continuous
form which is one of the really cool features access has over other
development environments. List boxes and combos are fine as I create a
string and populate like a Value List.

So any ideas?

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Wed Oct 13 10:54:20 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:54:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB0865318D39@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

ROTFL!
Gustav, I oughta send you a cleanup bill for the coffee I sprayed on my
keyboard and monitor in a fit of hysterical laughter.


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi Vlad

> I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while 
> the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains 
> totally unbound.

Yes, this is nice for a read-only application ... do these count for 90%
of all frontends?

And why bother with updating of records - users are sooo demanding!
Saves a lot of multi-user troubles as well.

> One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total 
> flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when 
> the app is started...

Yes, much more fun to deal with the links any time a form is to be
loaded. You could create a class for that ...

/gustav


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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Oct 13 11:09:56 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:09:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page
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Group,

I have an 8" report set to 4 2" columns.  I utilize a report footer to hold
an overall sum, which I reference in the report header.  Currently, the
report prints an extra blank page which I am assuming is the report footer.


Current settings for the report footer section are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

Current settings for the "sum" control are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

What am I missing?  I don't want to print this blank page but can't seem to
find a combination of settings to prevent it.



Mark


From CMackin at quiznos.com  Wed Oct 13 11:14:22 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:14:22 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EFEC@snowmass.quiznos.net>

Sounds like it may not be the Report Footer, have you tried deleting the Footer and running it to see if you still get the extra page?

-Chris Mackin

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S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:10 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Group,

I have an 8" report set to 4 2" columns.  I utilize a report footer to hold
an overall sum, which I reference in the report header.  Currently, the
report prints an extra blank page which I am assuming is the report footer.


Current settings for the report footer section are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

Current settings for the "sum" control are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

What am I missing?  I don't want to print this blank page but can't seem to
find a combination of settings to prevent it.



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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Oct 13 11:21:38 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:21:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677217FFC4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Yeah, But we're left to figure out if we're talking to the FE or the BE of
the split.....<g>
Jim


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Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:45 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


LOL
Not only a split personality, but one who talks to himself! ;-}

Charlotte Foust



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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 13 11:23:27 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:23:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
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Hi Vlad

Hmmm ... it must be slower to open the database each time a form is to
be opened - looks to me like throwing pebbles in front of you as you
move along. I just can't see one practical benefit of this approach
except for the eventual fun of it and in some very rare cases.

> Set dbs = Opendatabase(Forms!frmMainMenu!txtAppPath)

To speed this up, you could store dbs as a Static in Opendatabase!
This must be the tip of the day ... Oh well, somebody please stop me!

/gustav


>>>Yes, this is nice for a read-only application ... do these count for
> 90% of all frontends?

> With DAO it works like a normal bound app. I agree with ADO it is
> useless. I'm doing this with DAO so it serves it's purpose...

>>>Yes, much more fun to deal with the links any time a form is to be
> loaded. You could create a class for that ...

> Only need to do this once. The app is loaded and the path automatically
> stored within a text box on the main menu. Only have to read this value
> when making a connection eg:

> Set dbs = Opendatabase(Forms!frmMainMenu!txtAppPath)

> It works quite well...

> Vlad

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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Thursday, 14 October 2004 1:20 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


> Hi Vlad

>> I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while 
>> the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains 
>> totally unbound.

> Yes, this is nice for a read-only application ... do these count for 90%
> of all frontends?

> And why bother with updating of records - users are sooo demanding!
> Saves a lot of multi-user troubles as well.

>> One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total 
>> flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when 
>> the app is started...

> Yes, much more fun to deal with the links any time a form is to be
> loaded. You could create a class for that ...

> /gustav



From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Oct 13 11:54:11 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:54:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF927@DISABILITYINS01>

>Yeah, But we're left to figure out if we're talking to the FE or the BE of
the split.....<g>

ROTFLMAO!

In the end, you're talking to both since the split is itself a fiction of
the deranged mind.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:22 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Yeah, But we're left to figure out if we're talking to the FE or the BE of
the split.....<g>
Jim


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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


LOL
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Charlotte Foust



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From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Oct 13 12:31:59 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:31:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access News
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BF8@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Below is from the FMS monthly e-newsletter.
Thought the list would be interested.

Jim H. 

MICROSOFT INVESTING HEAVILY IN ACCESS 
Last week at the Access Advisor conference in Las Vegas, Microsoft announced their plans for enhancing Access over the next several versions. In his keynote, Richard McAniff, Corporate Vice President of Access, Excel and Office Programmability, revealed the future direction for Access and their renewed commitment to the roots of making databases easy, along with SharePoint integration for web connectivity. With the largest Access development team since the early days of Access, Microsoft is refocusing its efforts on making Access the no-brainer choice for Excel users who need more power. By simplifying the development of database applications, information workers will be empowered to solve more database problems on their own. Meanwhile, the developer features will allow the continued creation of professional solutions. Overall, the investment Microsoft is making, the change in focus and simpler marketing message for Office, is quite tremendous and bodes well for the future of Access.
At FMS we are extremely pleased to see this new focus. Rather than focusing on SQL Server or .NET, Microsoft is returning focus to Access' core strength: a rapid development environment for users that can be extended by experienced database developers and programmers. The new initiative will result in even more databases that can be created by information workers, and gives skilled Access users and developers more opportunities. While there are tradeoffs between Access and other, more advanced platforms, making it easier to create Access projects will allow organizations to build applications they could not cost-justify on more expensive platforms. We at FMS have always believed there are a wide range of business and organizational challenges that require database solutions. Some justify expensive and sophisticated solutions, while others are best satisfied with the rapid, cost effective solutions Access offers. 



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Oct 13 12:47:16 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:47:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access News
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486888@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Thanks Jim but I have to wonder if FMS attended the same keynote speech that I did. I was at this Advisor event and looked forward to the keynote entitled "The Future of Access".  In it Richard McAniff demoed SharePoint and Access connectivity to SharePoint data but he did not once talk about the direction of Access, future features, SQL connectivity (ADPs that is) or anything other than a "rah-rah we support you developers" with no real details.

OTOH, all the .NET sessions showed new features that are "just like Access" so one has to wonder what is the true direction.  Also at Alison Balter's pre-conference session "M$ Access Development" she showed a few apps that connected to SQL data.  One attendee noted that she was using mdbs and asked why she wasn't using an ADP.  She neatly sidestepped the issue that has come up on this list in recent days and simply stated "MDB is the file format that M$ is standing behind and promoting the use of".  Of course this is just me paraphrasing but you get the gist of what is being said here.

I had lunch with some Access developers who noted the same lack of info on the future of Access at the keynote.  I guess we should take comfort in the fact that the Access team is larger but to what end?

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan


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Below is from the FMS monthly e-newsletter.
Thought the list would be interested.

Jim H. 

MICROSOFT INVESTING HEAVILY IN ACCESS 
Last week at the Access Advisor conference in Las Vegas, Microsoft announced their plans for enhancing Access over the next several versions. In his keynote, Richard McAniff, Corporate Vice President of Access, Excel and Office Programmability, revealed the future direction for Access and their renewed commitment to the roots of making databases easy, along with SharePoint integration for web connectivity. With the largest Access development team since the early days of Access, Microsoft is refocusing its efforts on making Access the no-brainer choice for Excel users who need more power. By simplifying the development of database applications, information workers will be empowered to solve more database problems on their own. Meanwhile, the developer features will allow the continued creation of professional solutions. Overall, the investment Microsoft is making, the change in focus and simpler marketing message for Office, is quite tremendous and bodes well for the future of Access.
At FMS we are extremely pleased to see this new focus. Rather than focusing on SQL Server or .NET, Microsoft is returning focus to Access' core strength: a rapid development environment for users that can be extended by experienced database developers and programmers. The new initiative will result in even more databases that can be created by information workers, and gives skilled Access users and developers more opportunities. While there are tradeoffs between Access and other, more advanced platforms, making it easier to create Access projects will allow organizations to build applications they could not cost-justify on more expensive platforms. We at FMS have always believed there are a wide range of business and organizational challenges that require database solutions. Some justify expensive and sophisticated solutions, while others are best satisfied with the rapid, cost effective solutions Access offers. 




 



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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Oct 13 12:59:22 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:59:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7BB@nprdex02.nns.com>

Chris,

Thanks for the suggestion to verify that the problem lies with the report
footer.  I deleted the report footer and the blank page no longer prints.

Now that we have confirmed that it is the report footer and I still need the
functionality of the report footer "sum"...how can I prevent the report
footer from printing?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Mackin, Christopher [mailto:CMackin at quiznos.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Sounds like it may not be the Report Footer, have you tried deleting the
Footer and running it to see if you still get the extra page?

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:10 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Group,

I have an 8" report set to 4 2" columns.  I utilize a report footer to hold
an overall sum, which I reference in the report header.  Currently, the
report prints an extra blank page which I am assuming is the report footer.


Current settings for the report footer section are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

Current settings for the "sum" control are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

What am I missing?  I don't want to print this blank page but can't seem to
find a combination of settings to prevent it.



Mark
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From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Oct 13 13:24:42 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:24:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BFA@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Mark,
Instead of referencing the footer with your header, use a Domain function.
You can use the DSum() function using the underlying query for the total in the header.

Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:59 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Chris,

Thanks for the suggestion to verify that the problem lies with the report
footer.  I deleted the report footer and the blank page no longer prints.

Now that we have confirmed that it is the report footer and I still need the
functionality of the report footer "sum"...how can I prevent the report
footer from printing?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Mackin, Christopher [mailto:CMackin at quiznos.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Sounds like it may not be the Report Footer, have you tried deleting the
Footer and running it to see if you still get the extra page?

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:10 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Group,

I have an 8" report set to 4 2" columns.  I utilize a report footer to hold
an overall sum, which I reference in the report header.  Currently, the
report prints an extra blank page which I am assuming is the report footer.


Current settings for the report footer section are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

Current settings for the "sum" control are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

What am I missing?  I don't want to print this blank page but can't seem to
find a combination of settings to prevent it.



Mark
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Oct 13 18:32:50 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:32:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AC9@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can suppress it in the print event of the footer by setting
PrintSection = False.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Chris,

Thanks for the suggestion to verify that the problem lies with the
report footer.  I deleted the report footer and the blank page no longer
prints.

Now that we have confirmed that it is the report footer and I still need
the functionality of the report footer "sum"...how can I prevent the
report footer from printing?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Mackin, Christopher [mailto:CMackin at quiznos.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Sounds like it may not be the Report Footer, have you tried deleting the
Footer and running it to see if you still get the extra page?

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:10 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Group,

I have an 8" report set to 4 2" columns.  I utilize a report footer to
hold an overall sum, which I reference in the report header.  Currently,
the report prints an extra blank page which I am assuming is the report
footer.


Current settings for the report footer section are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

Current settings for the "sum" control are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

What am I missing?  I don't want to print this blank page but can't seem
to find a combination of settings to prevent it.



Mark
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Oct 13 18:37:31 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:37:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access News
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ACA@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I thought the quote "Microsoft is refocusing its efforts on making
Access the no-brainer choice for Excel users who need more power" was
most telling. The rather weak "Meanwhile, the developer features will
allow the continued creation of professional solutions" sounds like it
should mean something, but I don't know what, since professional
solutions aren't inherent in any tool but depend on the knowledge and
experience of the developer.  There really *aren't* any developer
features in Access 2003, they're in the extension tools for Visual
Studio. :-{

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:32 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Access News



Below is from the FMS monthly e-newsletter.
Thought the list would be interested.

Jim H. 

MICROSOFT INVESTING HEAVILY IN ACCESS 
Last week at the Access Advisor conference in Las Vegas, Microsoft
announced their plans for enhancing Access over the next several
versions. In his keynote, Richard McAniff, Corporate Vice President of
Access, Excel and Office Programmability, revealed the future direction
for Access and their renewed commitment to the roots of making databases
easy, along with SharePoint integration for web connectivity. With the
largest Access development team since the early days of Access,
Microsoft is refocusing its efforts on making Access the no-brainer
choice for Excel users who need more power. By simplifying the
development of database applications, information workers will be
empowered to solve more database problems on their own. Meanwhile, the
developer features will allow the continued creation of professional
solutions. Overall, the investment Microsoft is making, the change in
focus and simpler marketing message for Office, is quite tremendous and
bodes well for the future of Access. At FMS we are extremely pleased to
see this new focus. Rather than focusing on SQL Server or .NET,
Microsoft is returning focus to Access' core strength: a rapid
development environment for users that can be extended by experienced
database developers and programmers. The new initiative will result in
even more databases that can be created by information workers, and
gives skilled Access users and developers more opportunities. While
there are tradeoffs between Access and other, more advanced platforms,
making it easier to create Access projects will allow organizations to
build applications they could not cost-justify on more expensive
platforms. We at FMS have always believed there are a wide range of
business and organizational challenges that require database solutions.
Some justify expensive and sophisticated solutions, while others are
best satisfied with the rapid, cost effective solutions Access offers. 




From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Oct 13 20:15:21 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:15:21 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
References: <000301c4b0dc$fb9fbce0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <003601c4b18b$471d9cb0$6501a8c0@user>

That's interesting - will keep it in mind. I don't have a need for it at present.

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John W. Colby 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 2:27 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  BTW, the concept of the "static stored value" can be made even more useful
  if you use a collection to store the value, keyed on the name of the
  variable.  In that way you can use a single function to set / retrieve a
  multitude of different stored values.

  Option Compare Database
  Option Explicit

  Private mcolFilter As Collection
  Private mblnFltrInitialized As Boolean
  Public Function Fltr(lstrName As String, Optional lvarValue As Variant) As
  Variant
  On Error GoTo Err_Fltr
      'This sets up the collection if it isn't already initialized
      If mblnFltrInitialized = False Then
          Set mcolFilter = New Collection
          mblnFltrInitialized = True        
      End If

      If IsMissing(lvarValue) Then
          'This path is used to retrieve a value from the collection
          On Error Resume Next
          Fltr = mcolFilter(lstrName)
          If Err <> 0 Then
              Fltr = Null
          End If
      Else
          'This path is used to store a variable on the collection
          On Error Resume Next
          mcolFilter.Remove lstrName
          mcolFilter.Add lvarValue, lstrName
          Fltr = lvarValue
      End If
  Exit_Fltr:
  Exit Function
  Err_Fltr:
          MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function basFltrFunctions.Fltr"
          Resume Exit_Fltr
      Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
  End Function

  One function can now be called with a "variable name" and a value to store a
  value into a "variable".  

  fltr MyValue, "MyVarName"

  MyValue can be anything at all, string numeric etc.

  If the variable name already exists, then it is removed and replaced with
  the new value.  This effectively stores the value passed in even if there
  was already a value in the collection keyed on that name.

  To retrieve a value, just call the function passing in the name of the
  "variable" you want the value of.  If there is no such variable name a null
  will be returned.

  MyVar = fltr("MyVarName")

  I don't remember right off hand whether a control or form can be passed in
  to a variant though I believe it can.  Thus you need to be careful that you
  either do not pass in pointers to objects or that you make sure you clean
  out the collection before terminating your program.  If there are no
  objects, it doesn't matter, i.e. the collection and its values can be
  cleaned up by VB as the app closes.  If there are pointers to objects in
  there however VB may not correctly clean up the collection and the program
  may hang instead of exiting.

  John W. Colby
  www.ColbyConsulting.com 

  Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
  http://folding.stanford.edu/

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:50 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  Done, done and done. Thanks all for your help. I had no idea that a form
  criterion parameter couldn't be used in that way and could have wasted even
  more time. 

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Stuart McLachlan 
    To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving 
    Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:00 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


    On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

    > I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
  getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
    > After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
    > 

    The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are 
    probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for

    your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

    My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to

    store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()"

    and set the value of the function before calling the query  with 
    "retval = StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just
    "StoredValue Forms!myForm.myControl"








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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 14 02:23:17 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:23:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: EPL?
Message-ID: <681171364.20041014092317@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Just got this from Programmer's Report on an upcoming language:

"Unlike databases that use hoc SELECT-FROM-WHERE queries against a
persistent data store, EPL employs a time-based persistent
ON-WHEN-THEN query against asynchronous data flows and historical
context data."

  http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=10121

/gustav



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 14 02:33:10 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:33:10 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access News
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486888@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486888@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <1761764787.20041014093310@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

> OTOH, all the .NET sessions showed new features that are "just like
> Access" so one has to wonder what is the true direction.  Also at
> Alison Balter's pre-conference session "M$ Access Development" she
> showed a few apps that connected to SQL data.  One attendee noted
> that she was using mdbs and asked why she wasn't using an ADP.  She
> neatly sidestepped the issue that has come up on this list in recent
> days and simply stated "MDB is the file format that M$ is standing
> behind and promoting the use of".  Of course this is just me
> paraphrasing but you get the gist of what is being said here.

Well, after all wasn't the ADP concept a misunderstanding
contradicting the original mission of Access "to be the key to access 
any source of data"? 

/gustav



From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Thu Oct 14 05:50:01 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:50:01 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Totalling numbers from a multiple entries in two fields
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF7311922C5@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

tblMain has 7 ethnicity options in the one field [Roots]. Each of the
options involves 10 or so different jobs [Work].

I have to find the numbers for each of the Roots options for each job
[Work].

I tried with a number of queries which I pasted bodily into Word to make an
instant report. But  some strange results is the consequence. 

Be very pleased to hear how an expert would go about it. 

Cheers paul  





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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Thu Oct 14 07:25:25 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:25:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access News
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486892@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

I guess but I'm just thinking of all those who've invested in that format who seem to be losing support (thankfully I'm not in that group).

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access News


Hi Jim

> OTOH, all the .NET sessions showed new features that are "just like
> Access" so one has to wonder what is the true direction.  Also at
> Alison Balter's pre-conference session "M$ Access Development" she
> showed a few apps that connected to SQL data.  One attendee noted
> that she was using mdbs and asked why she wasn't using an ADP.  She
> neatly sidestepped the issue that has come up on this list in recent
> days and simply stated "MDB is the file format that M$ is standing
> behind and promoting the use of".  Of course this is just me
> paraphrasing but you get the gist of what is being said here.

Well, after all wasn't the ADP concept a misunderstanding
contradicting the original mission of Access "to be the key to access 
any source of data"? 

/gustav

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From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Thu Oct 14 11:17:18 2004
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:17:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <00a001c4b0d1$e32988e0$6501a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <20041014161339.C8BC95D216@smtp8.wanadoo.nl>

Mmmzzz don't wanna be fuzzy but one remark about the codesample though just
in case others wanna use it... To use a recordcount if I remember well, you
should always do a rs.movelast and a rs.movefirst first to populate the
recordset and get a reliable recordcount.

Regards, 
Eric Starkenburg 

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Kath Pelletti 
Verzonden: woensdag 13 oktober 2004 05:08 
Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
Onderwerp: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset 

Thanks Vlad - I thought that was the problem too....but it seems that it
just doesn't like my query even though the query runs fine in the normal
access window. 

I may have to change it to an sql statement. Sigh - I had already tried that
this morning but just couldn't get the syntax right ....

I will have another go at the sql syntax and if I can't nail it post back. 

Thanks 
Kath 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ACTEBS 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:50 PM 
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset 


  Kath, 

  Maybe like this: 

  Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String 
  Dim VarEmailto As Variant 
  Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer 
  Dim db As DAO.Database '>>>>>>>>>I changed this 
  Dim rs As DAO.Recordset 

  Set db = CurrentDb 


  StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail" 
    
  Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open 
  recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE 

  '>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Made a few changes here 
  If rs.recordcount > 0 then 
  Rs.movefirst 
  Do Until rs.EOF 
  With rs 
      .Edit 
       VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail") 
          .Update 
  End With 
  rs.movenext 
  loop 
  End if 

  'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto) 

  'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile) 

  Rs.close 
  Set rs = nothing 
  Db.close 
  Set db = nothing 

  HTH. You will need to check over it as I did it off the top of my head, 
  but you'll get the idea anyway... 

  Vlad 


  -----Original Message----- 
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti 
  Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:46 AM 
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset 


  I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep 
  getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = 
  ' After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help..... 


  Code: 

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
  -------- 

  Public Function EmailWebLetterRecipients() 
  Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String 
  Dim VarEmailto As Variant 
  Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer 
  Dim db As Database 
  Dim rs As DAO.Recordset 
  Set db = CurrentDb 


  StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail" 
    
  Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open 
  recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE 

  With rs 
      .MoveFirst 
      .Edit 

       VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail") 
      .Update 
      .close 
  End With 
  'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto) 

  'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile) 

  Normal_exit: 
      DoCmd.SetWarnings True 
      Exit Function 

  Err_Handler: 
      MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "]  " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, 
  strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" 
      Resume Normal_exit 
  End Function 


  ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
  -------- 

  Kath Pelletti 
  Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. 
  Ph: 9505-6714 
  Fax: 9505-6430 
  KP at SDSOnline.net 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Oct 14 11:18:43 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:18:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <20041014161339.C8BC95D216@smtp8.wanadoo.nl>
Message-ID: <20041014161843.CZS2420.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Some recordsets support the RecordCount property, some don't. Those that do
don't require the move through the records to get a count. Just refer to the
RecordCount property. Just wrote an article on it for Inside Microsoft
Access -- should be out this winter sometime. 

Susan H. 

Mmmzzz don't wanna be fuzzy but one remark about the codesample though just
in case others wanna use it... To use a recordcount if I remember well, you
should always do a rs.movelast and a rs.movefirst first to populate the
recordset and get a reliable recordcount.




From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 14 12:04:26 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:04:26 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <20041014161843.CZS2420.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20041014161843.CZS2420.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <536040243.20041014190426@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

Without having read your article I think this may be a concern only
for ODBC attached tables. But I haven't studied it closely.

/gustav


> Some recordsets support the RecordCount property, some don't. Those that do
> don't require the move through the records to get a count. Just refer to the
> RecordCount property. Just wrote an article on it for Inside Microsoft
> Access -- should be out this winter sometime. 

> Susan H. 

> Mmmzzz don't wanna be fuzzy but one remark about the codesample though just
> in case others wanna use it... To use a recordcount if I remember well, you
> should always do a rs.movelast and a rs.movefirst first to populate the
> recordset and get a reliable recordcount.



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 14 12:02:08 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:02:08 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Query a text file without attach or import
Message-ID: <14835902294.20041014190208@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Should you ever need it, you can query a text file directly without
importing or attaching it first. The trich is to understand that
Access regards the directory of the text file as a "database":

  SELECT
    [pics#txt].Field1,
    [pics#txt].Field2
  FROM
    [pics#txt] IN '' [Text;DATABASE=c:\windows\temp;];

or:

  SELECT
    Field1,
    Field2
  FROM
    [Text;DATABASE=c:\windows\temp;HDR=YES].[pics.txt];


I should note that - as to my testings - even if you specify HDR=NO,
Access still reads the first line for the column names.

These syntax are very handy when you need to read temporary text files
where you do not wish to attach these at all.

/gustav



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Oct 14 12:09:34 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:09:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407A6@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of
13490391.  Does anyone have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question
de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 14 12:19:06 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:19:06 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ACF@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It also depends on the type of recordset and the location (client or
server).  An ADO recordset may simply return a -1, meaning that yes,
there are records.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:19 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


Some recordsets support the RecordCount property, some don't. Those that
do don't require the move through the records to get a count. Just refer
to the RecordCount property. Just wrote an article on it for Inside
Microsoft Access -- should be out this winter sometime. 

Susan H. 

Mmmzzz don't wanna be fuzzy but one remark about the codesample though
just in case others wanna use it... To use a recordcount if I remember
well, you should always do a rs.movelast and a rs.movefirst first to
populate the recordset and get a reliable recordcount.


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Oct 14 12:24:29 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:24:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <536040243.20041014190426@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041014172429.BTTH2420.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

The providers is a huge factor. ;) 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

Without having read your article I think this may be a concern only for ODBC
attached tables. But I haven't studied it closely.




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 14 12:24:54 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:24:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AD1@infoserver01.infostat.local>

-2147483633

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:10 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From liz at symphonyinfo.com  Thu Oct 14 12:26:14 2004
From: liz at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:26:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407A6@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <E1CI9Lb-0000he-00@pop-a065d19.pas.sa.earthlink.net>

Karen,

 -2147483633

(yes, this is on a sticky note on the side of my computer)

Liz

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Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color

I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Thu Oct 14 12:35:32 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:35:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407A6@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <000001c4b214$35033830$0200a8c0@COA3>

Try -2147483633

Steve


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Karen
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Oct 14 12:37:58 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:37:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407A8@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Thank you thank you thank you.  Perfect.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


-2147483633

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:10 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Thu Oct 14 12:46:54 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:46:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB0865318D44@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Well, that all depends. 

-2147483633 will give you the current 3D objects color setting in your
Display properties, which is used for non-XP style command buttons,
however the actual color displayed will vary from machine to machine if
they changed their color theme (I've seen buttons rendered in everything
from Light Blue to Hot Pink).

13160660 is the "classic" Windows button color (95-2000), which looks
out of place on an XP screen.


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Karen
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 14 12:48:53 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:48:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AD4@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You don't need a sticky note.  Just open any form in design view and
look at the color of the default background.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:liz at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Karen,

 -2147483633

(yes, this is on a sticky note on the side of my computer)

Liz

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color

I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Thu Oct 14 13:09:12 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:09:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AD4@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000301c4b218$e8a76420$0200a8c0@COA3>

Actually, Copy/Paste it from the Form Bkgr is even better, why try to
remember those 10 digits?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


You don't need a sticky note.  Just open any form in design view and
look at the color of the default background.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:liz at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Karen,

 -2147483633

(yes, this is on a sticky note on the side of my computer)

Liz

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Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color

I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 14 13:31:48 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:31:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AD7@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It has the added benefit of keeping your buttons or whatever colored to
match the current background settings of Windows.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) [mailto:Developer at ultradnt.com]

Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Actually, Copy/Paste it from the Form Bkgr is even better, why try to
remember those 10 digits?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


You don't need a sticky note.  Just open any form in design view and
look at the color of the default background.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:liz at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Karen,

 -2147483633

(yes, this is on a sticky note on the side of my computer)

Liz

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Karen
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color

I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Thu Oct 14 14:24:55 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:24:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AD7@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000401c4b223$7c855990$0200a8c0@COA3>

Are you sayting if you copy/paste the numbers from Form bkgr to text box
back color,  it won't match the Windows background?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


It has the added benefit of keeping your buttons or whatever colored to
match the current background settings of Windows.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) [mailto:Developer at ultradnt.com]

Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Actually, Copy/Paste it from the Form Bkgr is even better, why try to
remember those 10 digits?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


You don't need a sticky note.  Just open any form in design view and
look at the color of the default background.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:liz at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Karen,

 -2147483633

(yes, this is on a sticky note on the side of my computer)

Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color

I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Oct 14 14:34:20 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 20:34:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <20041014161843.CZS2420.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000a01c4b224$cdae5e60$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Are you sure Susan? Here's my findings with a table of 6 records

Dim db As Database
Dim rst As Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("CONTACTS", dbOpenTable)
MsgBox rst.RecordCount

Gives an answer of 6

But

Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM CONTACTS")
MsgBox rst.RecordCount

Gives an answer of 1.

As does
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("CONTACTS", dbOpenDynaset)

If you then do

Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM CONTACTS")
If Not rst.EOF Then
  rst.MoveLast
  rst.MoveFirst
  MsgBox rst.RecordCount
End If

You get a reliable 6. (Note to folks, donn't do a Movelast without checking
EOF. If the table's empty the Movelast collapses). So I reckon Dynaset
recordtypes support RecordCount but do require the Movelast.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Susan Harkins
> Sent: 14 October 2004 17:19
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
> 
> 
> Some recordsets support the RecordCount property, some don't. 
> Those that do don't require the move through the records to 
> get a count. Just refer to the RecordCount property. Just 
> wrote an article on it for Inside Microsoft Access -- should 
> be out this winter sometime. 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> Mmmzzz don't wanna be fuzzy but one remark about the 
> codesample though just in case others wanna use it... To use 
> a recordcount if I remember well, you should always do a 
> rs.movelast and a rs.movefirst first to populate the 
> recordset and get a reliable recordcount.
> 
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Oct 14 14:31:57 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:31:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F0471AA55@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Exactly. -2147483633 is not an RGB color number, it tells Access to go use
one of the System colors instead.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> Sent:	Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:32 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
> 
> It has the added benefit of keeping your buttons or whatever colored to
> match the current background settings of Windows.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) [mailto:Developer at ultradnt.com]
> 
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:09 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
> 
> 
> Actually, Copy/Paste it from the Form Bkgr is even better, why try to
> remember those 10 digits?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:49 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
> 
> 
> You don't need a sticky note.  Just open any form in design view and
> look at the color of the default background.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liz Doering [mailto:liz at symphonyinfo.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:26 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
> 
> 
> Karen,
> 
>  -2147483633
> 
> (yes, this is on a sticky note on the side of my computer)
> 
> Liz
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> Karen
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
> 
> I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
> buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
> have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.
> 
> Karen Nicholson
> National Laboratory
> Xerox Global Services
> 
> 
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 14 14:47:48 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:47:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4b224$cdae5e60$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKGENGKIAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

<<You get a reliable 6. (Note to folks, donn't do a Movelast without
checking
EOF. If the table's empty the Movelast collapses). So I reckon Dynaset
recordtypes support RecordCount but do require the Movelast.>>

  It's hit or miss depending on the size of the recordset.  If JET thinks
it's going to take too long to fully populate it, it finishes the job in the
background.  Code starts executing again while this is going on, so
.Recordcount will be incorrect when this happens.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


Are you sure Susan? Here's my findings with a table of 6 records

Dim db As Database
Dim rst As Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("CONTACTS", dbOpenTable)
MsgBox rst.RecordCount

Gives an answer of 6

But

Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM CONTACTS")
MsgBox rst.RecordCount

Gives an answer of 1.

As does
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("CONTACTS", dbOpenDynaset)

If you then do

Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM CONTACTS")
If Not rst.EOF Then
  rst.MoveLast
  rst.MoveFirst
  MsgBox rst.RecordCount
End If

You get a reliable 6. (Note to folks, donn't do a Movelast without checking
EOF. If the table's empty the Movelast collapses). So I reckon Dynaset
recordtypes support RecordCount but do require the Movelast.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Susan Harkins
> Sent: 14 October 2004 17:19
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
>
>
> Some recordsets support the RecordCount property, some don't.
> Those that do don't require the move through the records to
> get a count. Just refer to the RecordCount property. Just
> wrote an article on it for Inside Microsoft Access -- should
> be out this winter sometime.
>
> Susan H.
>
> Mmmzzz don't wanna be fuzzy but one remark about the
> codesample though just in case others wanna use it... To use
> a recordcount if I remember well, you should always do a
> rs.movelast and a rs.movefirst first to populate the
> recordset and get a reliable recordcount.
>
>
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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Thu Oct 14 15:06:11 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:06:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKGENGKIAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <OF50B491B1.C396878A-ON86256F2D.006E5B51-86256F2D.006E6DCA@usbank.com>

>   It's hit or miss depending on the size of the recordset.  If JET thinks
> it's going to take too long to fully populate it, it finishes the job in
the
> background.  Code starts executing again while this is going on, so
> .Recordcount will be incorrect when this happens.

Why not use something along the lines of?

Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rst As DAO.Recordset
Dim mysql as string

mysql = "SELECT"
mysql = mysql & " Count(CONTACTS.CONTACTKEY) AS RecordCount"
mysql = mysql & " FROM"
mysql = mysql & " CONTACTS;"

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset(mysql)
MsgBox rst.Fields("RecordCount")


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 14 15:08:43 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:08:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AD9@infoserver01.infostat.local>

No, I'm saying that it adjusts to whatever the current Windows system
setting is, the same way the default background of a form does.  That's
what that negative number indicates.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) [mailto:Developer at ultradnt.com]

Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Are you sayting if you copy/paste the numbers from Form bkgr to text box
back color,  it won't match the Windows background?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


It has the added benefit of keeping your buttons or whatever colored to
match the current background settings of Windows.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) [mailto:Developer at ultradnt.com]

Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Actually, Copy/Paste it from the Form Bkgr is even better, why try to
remember those 10 digits?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


You don't need a sticky note.  Just open any form in design view and
look at the color of the default background.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:liz at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Karen,

 -2147483633

(yes, this is on a sticky note on the side of my computer)

Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color

I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 14 15:27:46 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:27:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <OF50B491B1.C396878A-ON86256F2D.006E5B51-86256F2D.006E6DCA@usbank.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKEENIKIAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Sure that would work as your explicitly forcing JET to count all the
records.  But it would be faster if it was:

mysql = "SELECT"
mysql = mysql & " Count(*) AS RecordCount"
mysql = mysql & " FROM"
mysql = mysql & " CONTACTS;"

  JET will just get the count from the primary key index if there is one.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:06 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


>   It's hit or miss depending on the size of the recordset.  If JET thinks
> it's going to take too long to fully populate it, it finishes the job in
the
> background.  Code starts executing again while this is going on, so
> .Recordcount will be incorrect when this happens.

Why not use something along the lines of?

Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rst As DAO.Recordset
Dim mysql as string

mysql = "SELECT"
mysql = mysql & " Count(CONTACTS.CONTACTKEY) AS RecordCount"
mysql = mysql & " FROM"
mysql = mysql & " CONTACTS;"

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset(mysql)
MsgBox rst.Fields("RecordCount")


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Oct 14 16:15:28 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:15:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4b224$cdae5e60$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <20041014211533.FPCF2383.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Send me your private email and I'll send you a copy of the article. 

Susan H. 

Are you sure Susan? Here's my findings with a table of 6 records



From john at winhaven.net  Thu Oct 14 17:00:37 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:00:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Net Op
Message-ID: <NGBBLIECOMAKBPEDMKEJKEBMIBAA.john@winhaven.net>

Anyone use Net Op for remote users?

John B.



From actebs at actebs.com.au  Fri Oct 15 00:33:13 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:33:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC3@starfleet.unknown.local>

Guys,
 
Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.
 
I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...
 
Any help greatly appreciated...
 
Vlad
 


From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 15 04:11:56 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:11:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC3@starfleet.unknown.local>
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC3@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <1157828677.20041015111156@cactus.dk>

Hi Vlad

Isn't an eval. version of FileMaker available?
If so, perhaps it can export the data for you.

/gustav


> Guys,
 
> Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
> client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
> and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
> installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
> into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.
 
> I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
> find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
> that that is value for money...
 
> Any help greatly appreciated...
 
> Vlad



From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Fri Oct 15 06:46:52 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (JMoss)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:46:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC3@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <OKEMICJGPJCMJCCHGNDEOEPMCOAA.jmoss111@bellsouth.net>

Vlad,

eBay has FileMaker Pro for under $50 with Buiy It Now. Isn't FM a FoxPro
format database? If that doesn't work, DataJunction has a 30 day trial
version, and it can handle 160+ file formats. DataJunction was purchased by
Pervasive last year and I think they changed the DJ name to Cosmos.
DataJunction.com was still working the last time I checked, it forwarded you
to the Pervasive web site.

Jim

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Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:33 AM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,

Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.

I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...

Any help greatly appreciated...

Vlad

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From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Fri Oct 15 06:56:45 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (JMoss)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:56:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
In-Reply-To: <OKEMICJGPJCMJCCHGNDEOEPMCOAA.jmoss111@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <OKEMICJGPJCMJCCHGNDEEEPNCOAA.jmoss111@bellsouth.net>

One last thing about DataJunction; if FileMaker isn't a listed supported
file format, it will still probably handle the data because it has a "file
sniffer" and can use the correct functionaly to read/write data.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of JMoss
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 6:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Vlad,

eBay has FileMaker Pro for under $50 with Buiy It Now. Isn't FM a FoxPro
format database? If that doesn't work, DataJunction has a 30 day trial
version, and it can handle 160+ file formats. DataJunction was purchased by
Pervasive last year and I think they changed the DJ name to Cosmos.
DataJunction.com was still working the last time I checked, it forwarded you
to the Pervasive web site.

Jim

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Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:33 AM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,

Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.

I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...

Any help greatly appreciated...

Vlad

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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Fri Oct 15 08:14:53 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:14:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738E4@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

This thread went around awhile back and I looked it up in the archives.  I
want to use the code that was suggested, but I don't know 1) how to call the
function or 2) if it will work in our situation.  Most of our users are on
Windows2000 but a couple are still on NT.  Does that make a difference.  Do
I need a login screen or can I just have the username entered into the table
(backend on a network drive) when the user opens the form or enters a new
record on the form.  And finally how do I call the function in the form?

 

I guess I could ask if anyone has a simple project log database already
developed that they wouldn't mind sharing.  Ours is really quite simple in
that all we want to keep track of is what projects staff members are working
on, requester, due dates, and a few other things.  

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 15 08:40:30 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:40:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738E4@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
Message-ID: <20041015134030.88578.qmail@web20426.mail.yahoo.com>

Have you tried Environ("Username") ?
 
 
"Klos, Susan" <Susan.Klos at fldoe.org> wrote:
This thread went around awhile back and I looked it up in the archives. I
want to use the code that was suggested, but I don't know 1) how to call the
function or 2) if it will work in our situation. Most of our users are on
Windows2000 but a couple are still on NT. Does that make a difference. Do
I need a login screen or can I just have the username entered into the table
(backend on a network drive) when the user opens the form or enters a new
record on the form. And finally how do I call the function in the form?



I guess I could ask if anyone has a simple project log database already
developed that they wouldn't mind sharing. Ours is really quite simple in
that all we want to keep track of is what projects staff members are working
on, requester, due dates, and a few other things. 



Any help would be greatly appreciated.





Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708



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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Oct 15 09:00:36 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:00:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7C8@nprdex02.nns.com>

Susan,

I'm sending you a simple db (A2K, 208KB) that includes an automatic
login/exit form, modules for computer name and user name, and a usys table
that stores this information along with a date/time stamp.

Notes:
1. Requires a DAO reference.
2. Login info is tracked regardless of whether the user exits from the login
form or not.  I basically just use it as a scare tactic to keep honest
people honest.


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 9:15 AM
To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name


This thread went around awhile back and I looked it up in the archives.  I
want to use the code that was suggested, but I don't know 1) how to call the
function or 2) if it will work in our situation.  Most of our users are on
Windows2000 but a couple are still on NT.  Does that make a difference.  Do
I need a login screen or can I just have the username entered into the table
(backend on a network drive) when the user opens the form or enters a new
record on the form.  And finally how do I call the function in the form?

 

I guess I could ask if anyone has a simple project log database already
developed that they wouldn't mind sharing.  Ours is really quite simple in
that all we want to keep track of is what projects staff members are working
on, requester, due dates, and a few other things.  

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Oct 15 09:06:25 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:06:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7C8@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <20041015140627.QRXV2444.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Mark, what do you mean to keep people honest? Any way to relate the person
logged to something actually done in the database? 

Susan H. 

Susan,

I'm sending you a simple db (A2K, 208KB) that includes an automatic
login/exit form, modules for computer name and user name, and a usys table
that stores this information along with a date/time stamp.

Notes:
1. Requires a DAO reference.
2. Login info is tracked regardless of whether the user exits from the login
form or not.  I basically just use it as a scare tactic to keep honest
people honest.



From CMackin at quiznos.com  Fri Oct 15 09:10:15 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:10:15 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F00A@snowmass.quiznos.net>

I have down some work with FileMkaer Proc in recent history, it is the absolute worst "database" product I have ever seen, we refered to it as the "My First Database" product line.  You'll love it the first time you come across a "Date" field that contains string data or a "Number" field that contains string, no primary keys can be established in spite the ability to set fields to "unique".

Anyway, you can download a free ODBC driveer from FileMaker Pro's website, one key to rememeber when setting up an ODBC connection with it is that you MUST have the FileMaker Pro file open while you are connecting to it, otherwise the connection fails.

-Chris Mackin

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Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:33 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,
 
Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.
 
I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...
 
Any help greatly appreciated...
 
Vlad
 
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Oct 15 09:42:38 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:42:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7CA@nprdex02.nns.com>

No...I didn't implement a transaction history.  The login form just serves
as a gentle reminder that users are not anonymous and that problems can be
tracked down to the date/time and particular users who were logged in.  An
honest person therefore is more likely to approach me and let me know that
they just accidentally deleted 10,000 records...rather than let me track
down, confront and publicly implicate several potential suspects;)  ...at
least that's the plan;)  ...it's been working so far;)


Mark


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From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Get user name


Mark, what do you mean to keep people honest? Any way to relate the person
logged to something actually done in the database? 

Susan H. 

Susan,

I'm sending you a simple db (A2K, 208KB) that includes an automatic
login/exit form, modules for computer name and user name, and a usys table
that stores this information along with a date/time stamp.

Notes:
1. Requires a DAO reference.
2. Login info is tracked regardless of whether the user exits from the login
form or not.  I basically just use it as a scare tactic to keep honest
people honest.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Oct 15 09:54:04 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:54:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7CA@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <20041015145414.JDXY2494.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I see. ;) 

Susan H. 

No...I didn't implement a transaction history.  The login form just serves
as a gentle reminder that users are not anonymous and that problems can be
tracked down to the date/time and particular users who were logged in.  An
honest person therefore is more likely to approach me and let me know that
they just accidentally deleted 10,000 records...rather than let me track
down, confront and publicly implicate several potential suspects;)  ...at
least that's the plan;)  ...it's been working so far;)



From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Fri Oct 15 10:01:34 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:01:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738E6@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

Lonnie, Thanks.  That worked perfectly.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Fri Oct 15 10:15:07 2004
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:15:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Totalling numbers from a multiple entries in two fi elds
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED624@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Sorry Paul I am struggling to visualise your data. But I'll assume that
there is an entity that tblMain describes for which both Roots and Work are
attributes (such as a person)?

To get the number of people of each ethnicity for each job, you need to add
the fields to a totals query, grouping by firstly Work, then Roots, and then
counting the unique identifier for each person.

HTH

Roz

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Rodgers [mailto:Paul.Rogers at summitmedia.co.uk] 
Sent: 14 October 2004 11:50
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Totalling numbers from a multiple entries in two fields


tblMain has 7 ethnicity options in the one field [Roots]. Each of the
options involves 10 or so different jobs [Work].

I have to find the numbers for each of the Roots options for each job
[Work].

I tried with a number of queries which I pasted bodily into Word to make an
instant report. But  some strange results is the consequence. 

Be very pleased to hear how an expert would go about it. 

Cheers paul  





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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct 15 10:17:43 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:17:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
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Good grief NO!  FoxPro is at least a decent relational database.
FileMaker is for idiots!

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From: JMoss [mailto:jmoss111 at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Vlad,

eBay has FileMaker Pro for under $50 with Buiy It Now. Isn't FM a FoxPro
format database? If that doesn't work, DataJunction has a 30 day trial
version, and it can handle 160+ file formats. DataJunction was purchased
by Pervasive last year and I think they changed the DJ name to Cosmos.
DataJunction.com was still working the last time I checked, it forwarded
you to the Pervasive web site.

Jim

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Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:33 AM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,

Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.

I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...

Any help greatly appreciated...

Vlad

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct 15 10:19:13 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:19:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ADD@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Have them export the data from Filemaker and work with the export.  The
structure of FileMaker files is so bizarre and the data can be SO
strange, that's the only way I ever found to move data to Access.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:33 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,
 
Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.
 
I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...
 
Any help greatly appreciated...
 
Vlad
 
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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Fri Oct 15 10:28:00 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 01:28:00 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD50558332803855E@starfleet.unknown.local>

Chris,

I think the department are moving away from Filemaker exactly because of
the reasons you've stated. Also, they are having difficulty finding
someone who knows much about it. They also claim it's a bit of a slug,
but I can't comment as  haven't seen the app in action.

I went everywhere trying to find the odbc download on the filemaker
site, nowhere to be found. You wouldn't happen to have the actual link
to the download would you?

Thanx
Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mackin,
Christopher
Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2004 12:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


I have down some work with FileMkaer Proc in recent history, it is the
absolute worst "database" product I have ever seen, we refered to it as
the "My First Database" product line.  You'll love it the first time you
come across a "Date" field that contains string data or a "Number" field
that contains string, no primary keys can be established in spite the
ability to set fields to "unique".

Anyway, you can download a free ODBC driveer from FileMaker Pro's
website, one key to rememeber when setting up an ODBC connection with it
is that you MUST have the FileMaker Pro file open while you are
connecting to it, otherwise the connection fails.

-Chris Mackin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of ACTEBS
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:33 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,
 
Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.
 
I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...
 
Any help greatly appreciated...
 
Vlad
 
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Oct 15 10:30:43 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:30:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407AC@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Tell us what you really think, Charlotte!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Good grief NO!  FoxPro is at least a decent relational database.
FileMaker is for idiots!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: JMoss [mailto:jmoss111 at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Vlad,

eBay has FileMaker Pro for under $50 with Buiy It Now. Isn't FM a FoxPro
format database? If that doesn't work, DataJunction has a 30 day trial
version, and it can handle 160+ file formats. DataJunction was purchased
by Pervasive last year and I think they changed the DJ name to Cosmos.
DataJunction.com was still working the last time I checked, it forwarded
you to the Pervasive web site.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of ACTEBS
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:33 AM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,

Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.

I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...

Any help greatly appreciated...

Vlad

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From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Fri Oct 15 10:36:10 2004
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:36:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] RE: A2k2 doCmd.RunSQL won't run my SQL...
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188064331E1@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi guys

First post from a VB / ASP developer who's been left in charge of an Access
mod...  sorry to kick off by begging for help ;-)

I am trying to programatically link to an SQL v7 table from my Access DB,
the source table sits on a networked SQL Server box.  I'm using ADOX etc. to
bring the table in.  Everything goes fine until I try and index the table
with an SQL CREATE INDEX statement, executed using the DoCmd.RunSQL method.
It just doesn't work - it fails silently.

If I take the contents of the string variable from the immediate window and
paste it into a query, it runs fine and indexes my table.

It's driving me to distraction...  any help would be greatly appreciated,
many thanks in advance.

Tom Bolton
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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Fri Oct 15 11:16:51 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:16:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F501E25AE1@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>

Because it's Friday I'll second that!!!

Thankfully I've never had to do anything with Filemaker, but my poor
wife has to use it daily to run the box office at a small theatre.  I
don't know if the developer of the app was simply incompetent (as I
suspect) or if it's the best that can be done within the limits of the
program (gawd, I hope not!), but she (and she is NO kind of developer -
barely considers herself a user!) has to perform MODS ON THE INTERFACE
just to allow the thing to accommodate normal business realities
(increase ticket prices, extensions of performance runs, scheduling the
run of the next show, etc.)  It's either that or pay the "developer" by
the hour to do it.  I mean, literally, stuff that could easily be
handled by adding a few records to a table (in a well-designed db)
require a virtual re-design of the db and interface.  And this piece of
crap is being used to manage the lifeblood of the org.  I have looked
under the hood of it a bit, and even tried my hand at designing
something with Filemaker, to see if I might be of some help to her.
Made me run away screaming.  

GAWD!!!  Don't get me started. I gotta go.

Don McGillivray

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 8:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Good grief NO!  FoxPro is at least a decent relational database.
FileMaker is for idiots!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: JMoss [mailto:jmoss111 at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Vlad,

eBay has FileMaker Pro for under $50 with Buiy It Now. Isn't FM a FoxPro
format database? If that doesn't work, DataJunction has a 30 day trial
version, and it can handle 160+ file formats. DataJunction was purchased
by Pervasive last year and I think they changed the DJ name to Cosmos.
DataJunction.com was still working the last time I checked, it forwarded
you to the Pervasive web site.

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of ACTEBS
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:33 AM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,

Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.

I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...

Any help greatly appreciated...

Vlad

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From chizotz at mchsi.com  Fri Oct 15 12:05:10 2004
From: chizotz at mchsi.com (chizotz at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:05:10 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
Message-ID: <101520041705.3631.4bd4@mchsi.com>

Heh. Here's a story for a Friday... not entirely off topic...

I once put a function into a backend .mdb that checked the logon name of the 
user, and if it wasn't me it put up a bright red screen with yellow letters 
that said something like, "Unauthorized Intrusion Detected. You have attempted 
to open a database for which you are not authorized. We know who you are and 
where you are sitting. Please remain calm and in your seat, security will be 
coming for you shortly."

It was a slow day and I was bored (kind of like right now, actually!) and 
didn't expect anything to ever come of it, or anyone to ever see it besides me.

Weeks passed and I forgot about it. Then one day one of the office busybody 
idiots who thought he knew something about databases came rushing over to me 
all upset because "they" were coming for him and he didn't know what he should 
do... my, that was fun, and I had some fun with him for awhile, too, before 
I "covered his tracks for him". <lol> and for weeks after I would periodically 
remind him that he owed me a favor too. As far as I know, he never poked his 
nose into any of my databases again :)

Ron

> I basically just use it as a scare tactic to keep honest
> people honest.


From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 15 12:19:41 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:19:41 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
In-Reply-To: <101520041705.3631.4bd4@mchsi.com>
References: <101520041705.3631.4bd4@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <8637093006.20041015191941@cactus.dk>

Hi Ron

Nice!
But how did you expect to ever see that screen again?

/gustav


> Heh. Here's a story for a Friday... not entirely off topic...

> I once put a function into a backend .mdb that checked the logon name of the 
> user, and if it wasn't me it put up a bright red screen with yellow letters 
> that said something like, "Unauthorized Intrusion Detected. You have attempted 
> to open a database for which you are not authorized. We know who you are and 
> where you are sitting. Please remain calm and in your seat, security will be 
> coming for you shortly."

> It was a slow day and I was bored (kind of like right now, actually!) and 
> didn't expect anything to ever come of it, or anyone to ever see it besides me.

> Weeks passed and I forgot about it. Then one day one of the office busybody 
> idiots who thought he knew something about databases came rushing over to me 
> all upset because "they" were coming for him and he didn't know what he should 
> do... my, that was fun, and I had some fun with him for awhile, too, before 
> I "covered his tracks for him". <lol> and for weeks after I would periodically 
> remind him that he owed me a favor too. As far as I know, he never poked his 
> nose into any of my databases again :)

> Ron

>> I basically just use it as a scare tactic to keep honest
>> people honest.



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct 15 13:02:15 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:02:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ADE@infoserver01.infostat.local>

ROTFLMAO!  I did something like that once too. 

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: chizotz at mchsi.com [mailto:chizotz at mchsi.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Get user name


Heh. Here's a story for a Friday... not entirely off topic...

I once put a function into a backend .mdb that checked the logon name of
the 
user, and if it wasn't me it put up a bright red screen with yellow
letters 
that said something like, "Unauthorized Intrusion Detected. You have
attempted 
to open a database for which you are not authorized. We know who you are
and 
where you are sitting. Please remain calm and in your seat, security
will be 
coming for you shortly."

It was a slow day and I was bored (kind of like right now, actually!)
and 
didn't expect anything to ever come of it, or anyone to ever see it
besides me.

Weeks passed and I forgot about it. Then one day one of the office
busybody 
idiots who thought he knew something about databases came rushing over
to me 
all upset because "they" were coming for him and he didn't know what he
should 
do... my, that was fun, and I had some fun with him for awhile, too,
before 
I "covered his tracks for him". <lol> and for weeks after I would
periodically 
remind him that he owed me a favor too. As far as I know, he never poked
his 
nose into any of my databases again :)

Ron

> I basically just use it as a scare tactic to keep honest people 
> honest.
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct 15 13:02:47 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:02:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ADF@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Log in as Admin, of course!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Get user name


Hi Ron

Nice!
But how did you expect to ever see that screen again?

/gustav


> Heh. Here's a story for a Friday... not entirely off topic...

> I once put a function into a backend .mdb that checked the logon name 
> of the
> user, and if it wasn't me it put up a bright red screen with yellow
letters 
> that said something like, "Unauthorized Intrusion Detected. You have
attempted 
> to open a database for which you are not authorized. We know who you
are and 
> where you are sitting. Please remain calm and in your seat, security
will be 
> coming for you shortly."

> It was a slow day and I was bored (kind of like right now, actually!) 
> and
> didn't expect anything to ever come of it, or anyone to ever see it
besides me.

> Weeks passed and I forgot about it. Then one day one of the office 
> busybody
> idiots who thought he knew something about databases came rushing over
to me 
> all upset because "they" were coming for him and he didn't know what
he should 
> do... my, that was fun, and I had some fun with him for awhile, too,
before 
> I "covered his tracks for him". <lol> and for weeks after I would
periodically 
> remind him that he owed me a favor too. As far as I know, he never
poked his 
> nose into any of my databases again :)

> Ron

>> I basically just use it as a scare tactic to keep honest people 
>> honest.

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From fahooper at trapo.com  Fri Oct 15 13:38:18 2004
From: fahooper at trapo.com (Fred Hooper)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:38:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: A2k2 doCmd.RunSQL won't run my SQL...
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188064331E1@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <003901c4b2e6$23fa87a0$f0bffea9@fred>

Hi Tom,

Two thoughts:
(1) Your permissions may be different in your two methods of executing the
SQL depending on how SQL Server is set up.
(2) I haven't tried to use DoCmd.RunSQL for indexing SQL Server. However,
I've successfully used an ADO cmd for indexing. Unfortunately, I no longer
have the code for an example.

Hope this helps,
Fred Hooper

|-----Original Message-----
|From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
|[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tom Bolton
|Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:36 AM
|To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
|Subject: [AccessD] RE: A2k2 doCmd.RunSQL won't run my SQL...
|
|
|Hi guys
|
|First post from a VB / ASP developer who's been left in charge 
|of an Access mod...  sorry to kick off by begging for help ;-)
|
|I am trying to programatically link to an SQL v7 table from my 
|Access DB, the source table sits on a networked SQL Server 
|box.  I'm using ADOX etc. to bring the table in.  Everything 
|goes fine until I try and index the table with an SQL CREATE 
|INDEX statement, executed using the DoCmd.RunSQL method. It 
|just doesn't work - it fails silently.
|
|If I take the contents of the string variable from the 
|immediate window and paste it into a query, it runs fine and 
|indexes my table.
|
|It's driving me to distraction...  any help would be greatly 
|appreciated, many thanks in advance.
|
|Tom Bolton
|



From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Fri Oct 15 14:39:17 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:39:17 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
Message-ID: <212300-2200410515193917188@christopherhawkins.com>

Hello, all.  

I have a client who is constantly tinkering with his home-grown
Access solution and is constantly rolling out updates (against my
advice, of course).

I was about to set him up with a simple batch file that just uses
COPY [origin] [destination]  to copy  the latest version of the .mdb
from a folder on the server to a user's machine.  But before I do, I
want to know if it is possible to get a little fancier.  

I would like the batch file to a) compare the filename on the user's
machine to the filename on the server, and then b) do the copy if the
names are different, or c) NOT do the copy if the names are the same
(my client likes to put the version number in the filename).

Is this too much to ask of the humble batch file?


-Christopher-

P.S. 
And for those of you who wonder why I don't use a vbscript file, this
client swaps eMachines and other budget boxes in and out of his
business based on what's on sale at Costco that week (again, against
my advice).  I can't be sure that new boxes he brings in will have
WSH or any of the complementary components installed on the
bastardized version of WinXP that ships with a lot of thses crap
boxes.  But I know that batch files work on everything from Win95 up.
;)
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Oct 15 15:05:32 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:05:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485636@natexch.jenkens.com>

There is a front end updater on John Colby's site that I use extensively.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:39 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?


Hello, all.  

I have a client who is constantly tinkering with his home-grown
Access solution and is constantly rolling out updates (against my
advice, of course).

I was about to set him up with a simple batch file that just uses
COPY [origin] [destination]  to copy  the latest version of the .mdb
from a folder on the server to a user's machine.  But before I do, I
want to know if it is possible to get a little fancier.  

I would like the batch file to a) compare the filename on the user's
machine to the filename on the server, and then b) do the copy if the
names are different, or c) NOT do the copy if the names are the same
(my client likes to put the version number in the filename).

Is this too much to ask of the humble batch file?


-Christopher-

P.S. 
And for those of you who wonder why I don't use a vbscript file, this
client swaps eMachines and other budget boxes in and out of his
business based on what's on sale at Costco that week (again, against
my advice).  I can't be sure that new boxes he brings in will have
WSH or any of the complementary components installed on the
bastardized version of WinXP that ships with a lot of thses crap
boxes.  But I know that batch files work on everything from Win95 up.
;)
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk  Fri Oct 15 15:18:12 2004
From: spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk (Chris Foote (Spike))
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:18:12 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
In-Reply-To: <212300-2200410515193917188@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <NBBBJDKBBONNJNBIILLHKEEODLAA.spikee@oatlandspark.org.uk>

Hi Christopher!

I have a batch file at work doing just the job you are after.

If you can wait 'til Monday I'll send it to you then.

Regards!
Chris Foote


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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: 15 October 2004 20:39
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?


Hello, all.

I have a client who is constantly tinkering with his home-grown
Access solution and is constantly rolling out updates (against my
advice, of course).

I was about to set him up with a simple batch file that just uses
COPY [origin] [destination]  to copy  the latest version of the .mdb
from a folder on the server to a user's machine.  But before I do, I
want to know if it is possible to get a little fancier.

I would like the batch file to a) compare the filename on the user's
machine to the filename on the server, and then b) do the copy if the
names are different, or c) NOT do the copy if the names are the same
(my client likes to put the version number in the filename).

Is this too much to ask of the humble batch file?


-Christopher-

P.S.
And for those of you who wonder why I don't use a vbscript file, this
client swaps eMachines and other budget boxes in and out of his
business based on what's on sale at Costco that week (again, against
my advice).  I can't be sure that new boxes he brings in will have
WSH or any of the complementary components installed on the
bastardized version of WinXP that ships with a lot of thses crap
boxes.  But I know that batch files work on everything from Win95 up.
;)
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Fri Oct 15 21:44:16 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:44:16 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
Message-ID: <258430-220041061624416355@christopherhawkins.com>

Awesome.  I'l keep an eye out.

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:18:12 +0100

>Hi Christopher!
>
>I have a batch file at work doing just the job you are after.
>
>If you can wait 'til Monday I'll send it to you then.
>
>Regards!
>Chris Foote
>
>
><All outgoing e-mail messages are swept for malware using Norton 
>Anti-virus
>9.05.15 with virus definitions dated 12th October 2004>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
>Hawkins
>Sent: 15 October 2004 20:39
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
>
>
>Hello, all.
>
>I have a client who is constantly tinkering with his home-grown
>Access solution and is constantly rolling out updates (against my
>advice, of course).
>
>I was about to set him up with a simple batch file that just uses
>COPY [origin] [destination]  to copy  the latest version of the .mdb
>from a folder on the server to a user's machine.  But before I do, I
>want to know if it is possible to get a little fancier.
>
>I would like the batch file to a) compare the filename on the user's
>machine to the filename on the server, and then b) do the copy if the
>names are different, or c) NOT do the copy if the names are the same
>(my client likes to put the version number in the filename).
>
>Is this too much to ask of the humble batch file?
>
>
>-Christopher-
>
>P.S.
>And for those of you who wonder why I don't use a vbscript file, this
>client swaps eMachines and other budget boxes in and out of his
>business based on what's on sale at Costco that week (again, against
>my advice).  I can't be sure that new boxes he brings in will have
>WSH or any of the complementary components installed on the
>bastardized version of WinXP that ships with a lot of thses crap
>boxes.  But I know that batch files work on everything from Win95 up.
>;)
>Respectfully,
>
>Christopher Hawkins
>Software Developer
>(559) 687-7591
>http://www.christopherhawkins.com
>
>
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http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 15 22:59:36 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:59:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC3@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <41709CA8.2020109@shaw.ca>

On the filemaker site there are methods to export files to an xml 
spreadsheet Excel 2002 or 2003
Then just export to Access. May not work for your version of FileMaker tho.
http://www.filemaker.com/technologies/xslt_library.html

ACTEBS wrote:

>Guys,
> 
>Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
>client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
>and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
>installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
>into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.
> 
>I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
>find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
>that that is value for money...
> 
>Any help greatly appreciated...
> 
>Vlad
> 
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Sat Oct 16 09:56:42 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 10:56:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
In-Reply-To: <258430-220041061624416355@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <001901c4b390$59e37d40$0200a8c0@COA3>

If you are working on the weekend, your basic need here is the IF
command, using the EXIST parameter ... IF also can use NOT and ELSE.
And, DOS Batches need GOTO for most branching.  Type IF /? At the cmd
line for detail. A typical check if the application is on the hard drive
would go something like this:

IF NOT EXIST C:\FOLDER\SOME.MDB XCOPY \\SERVER\SHARE\SOME.MDB C:\FOLDER 

Hth
Steve



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:44 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?


Awesome.  I'l keep an eye out.

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:18:12 +0100

>Hi Christopher!
>
>I have a batch file at work doing just the job you are after.
>
>If you can wait 'til Monday I'll send it to you then.
>
>Regards!
>Chris Foote
>
>
><All outgoing e-mail messages are swept for malware using Norton
>Anti-virus
>9.05.15 with virus definitions dated 12th October 2004>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher 
>Hawkins
>Sent: 15 October 2004 20:39
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
>
>
>Hello, all.
>
>I have a client who is constantly tinkering with his home-grown Access 
>solution and is constantly rolling out updates (against my advice, of 
>course).
>
>I was about to set him up with a simple batch file that just uses COPY 
>[origin] [destination]  to copy  the latest version of the .mdb from a 
>folder on the server to a user's machine.  But before I do, I want to 
>know if it is possible to get a little fancier.
>
>I would like the batch file to a) compare the filename on the user's 
>machine to the filename on the server, and then b) do the copy if the 
>names are different, or c) NOT do the copy if the names are the same 
>(my client likes to put the version number in the filename).
>
>Is this too much to ask of the humble batch file?
>
>
>-Christopher-
>
>P.S.
>And for those of you who wonder why I don't use a vbscript file, this 
>client swaps eMachines and other budget boxes in and out of his 
>business based on what's on sale at Costco that week (again, against my

>advice).  I can't be sure that new boxes he brings in will have WSH or 
>any of the complementary components installed on the bastardized 
>version of WinXP that ships with a lot of thses crap boxes.  But I know

>that batch files work on everything from Win95 up.
>;)
>Respectfully,
>
>Christopher Hawkins
>Software Developer
>(559) 687-7591
>http://www.christopherhawkins.com
>
>
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Respectfully,

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Sat Oct 16 11:24:04 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:24:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
In-Reply-To: <212300-2200410515193917188@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKMEAOKJAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

I recommend my clients against as it's too easy to end up using an old
version of something.

Here's the setup I use:

1. Each FE has a table called tblAppVersionControl.  One record is entered
per release and has the version number, developer comments, user comments,
and release date.

2. Up on the server, I create the following structure.

  X:\Custom
        \<Database Name>
            <database>.MDB
            Upd_database.Bat
            \Backup

3. In the front end is also a link to tblAppVersionControl in the copy
stored on the server.  At app startup, a version check is made between the
two tables.  If a difference exists, the user comments are displayed and the
user is told they need to update.  The update is the execution of the batch
file.  They only need to execute the batch file directly for the initial
setup.  After that it's accessed via a shortcut.

4. The batch file copies down a new front end, any supporting files (help,
icons, DLLs, etc), and registers any DLLs or type libs.  It also calls a VB
program I wrote to create any required DSN's and shortcuts.


The development cycle is:
  1. Copy MDB to development machine
  2. Make changes.
  3. Update app version control table.
  4. Save current version in \..\backup.  Rename to <database>.version
  4. Copy new version to server.

 Below is one of the batch files.

HTH,
Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

@ECHO.
@ECHO.
@ECHO Checking for application directories...
@ECHO.
%HOMEDRIVE%
CD\
if not exist "%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files" mkdir "%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files"
if not exist "%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files\Traverse Custom" mkdir
"%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files\Traverse Custom"
@ECHO.
@ECHO.
@ECHO Copying application files...
@ECHO.
COPY "P:\Traverse Custom\EDITrafficMonitor\EDITrafficMonitor.MDE"
"%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files\Traverse Custom"
COPY "P:\Traverse Custom\EDITrafficMonitor\EDITrafficMonitor.ICO"
"%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files\Traverse Custom"
COPY "P:\Traverse Custom\Update.ico" "%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files\Traverse
Custom"
COPY "P:\Traverse Custom\vbSendMail.dll" "%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files\Traverse
Custom"
@ECHO.
@ECHO.
@ECHO Setting up environment...
@ECHO.
"P:\Traverse Custom\SetClientEnv.EXE" EDITrafficMonitor %HOMEDRIVE%
"C:\Windows\System32\Regsvr32.exe" "%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files\Traverse
Custom\vbSendMail.dll" /s



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:39 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?


Hello, all.

I have a client who is constantly tinkering with his home-grown
Access solution and is constantly rolling out updates (against my
advice, of course).

I was about to set him up with a simple batch file that just uses
COPY [origin] [destination]  to copy  the latest version of the .mdb
from a folder on the server to a user's machine.  But before I do, I
want to know if it is possible to get a little fancier.

I would like the batch file to a) compare the filename on the user's
machine to the filename on the server, and then b) do the copy if the
names are different, or c) NOT do the copy if the names are the same
(my client likes to put the version number in the filename).

Is this too much to ask of the humble batch file?


-Christopher-

P.S.
And for those of you who wonder why I don't use a vbscript file, this
client swaps eMachines and other budget boxes in and out of his
business based on what's on sale at Costco that week (again, against
my advice).  I can't be sure that new boxes he brings in will have
WSH or any of the complementary components installed on the
bastardized version of WinXP that ships with a lot of thses crap
boxes.  But I know that batch files work on everything from Win95 up.
;)
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Oct 16 16:07:21 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:07:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
Message-ID: <20041016210746.LLTU2383.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I've got some SQL code that compares two tables and reports on records that
aren't in both tables. I did a bit of checking to be sure, but I can't find
any built-in Access feature that does this -- anyone know of a wizard or
something that I might have missed? I'd hate to recommend something that's
not necessary. 
 
Susan H. 


From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Sat Oct 16 20:29:00 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:29:00 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29088915@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

Can't the 'Find Unmatched Query Wizard' do that?

Stephen Bond

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Sunday, 17 October 2004 10:07 a.m.
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
> 
> 
> I've got some SQL code that compares two tables and reports 
> on records that
> aren't in both tables. I did a bit of checking to be sure, 
> but I can't find
> any built-in Access feature that does this -- anyone know of 
> a wizard or
> something that I might have missed? I'd hate to recommend 
> something that's
> not necessary. 
>  
> Susan H. 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Oct 16 20:59:19 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:59:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
In-Reply-To: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29088915@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20041017015920.RYYL2403.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Hmmmmmm... I thought about that one, but haven't gotten the exact results I
was after -- will look at it again. 

Susan H. 

Can't the 'Find Unmatched Query Wizard' do that?




From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Sat Oct 16 22:06:25 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:06:25 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F298FD0@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

The restriction on this wizard is that it allows only one left join at the wizard stage.  If there are a number of fields I want to compare in 2 tables, I manually insert/delete left joins in the Design View after the wiz has done its stuff..

Stephen Bond

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Sunday, 17 October 2004 2:59 p.m.
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] comparing tables
> 
> 
> Hmmmmmm... I thought about that one, but haven't gotten the 
> exact results I
> was after -- will look at it again. 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> Can't the 'Find Unmatched Query Wizard' do that?
> 
> 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct 17 09:27:55 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:27:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
In-Reply-To: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F298FD0@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20041017142755.WTUT2403.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

OK, I thought I had run across that before myself, but it's been so long ago
-- I'll play around with it. Thanks!

Susan H. 

The restriction on this wizard is that it allows only one left join at the
wizard stage.  If there are a number of fields I want to compare in 2
tables, I manually insert/delete left joins in the Design View after the wiz
has done its stuff..




From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Oct 17 09:56:00 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:56:00 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Query a text file without attach or import
In-Reply-To: <14835902294.20041014190208@cactus.dk>
References: <14835902294.20041014190208@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <3925901123.20041017165600@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Forgot to note that the use of an alias for the table is beneficial or
even mandatory. 

Note that the first syntax can be modified to:

  SELECT
    NameOfField1,
    NameOfField2
  FROM
    [pics#txt] AS T IN '' [Text;DATABASE=c:\windows\temp;];

In the second syntax the trick is the brackets which force accept of
filenames or foldernames containing spaces.

This should be changed to:

  SELECT
    NameOfFiels1,
    NameOfField2
  FROM
    [Text;DATABASE=c:\windows\temp;HDR=YES].[pics.txt] AS T;

as Access otherwise my remodel the syntax into invalid syntax.

/gustav


> Hi all

> Should you ever need it, you can query a text file directly without
> importing or attaching it first. The trich is to understand that
> Access regards the directory of the text file as a "database":

>   SELECT
>     [pics#txt].Field1,
>     [pics#txt].Field2
>   FROM
>     [pics#txt] IN '' [Text;DATABASE=c:\windows\temp;];

> or:

>   SELECT
>     Field1,
>     Field2
>   FROM
>     [Text;DATABASE=c:\windows\temp;HDR=YES].[pics.txt];


> I should note that - as to my testings - even if you specify HDR=NO,
> Access still reads the first line for the column names.

> These syntax are very handy when you need to read temporary text files
> where you do not wish to attach these at all.



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Oct 17 11:43:28 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:43:28 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Re: [dba-Tech] Alternate PDF writing solution
In-Reply-To: <4171438F.6040204@rogers.com>
References: <001801c4b2c3$ae4dfd10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
	<4171438F.6040204@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <6032348975.20041017184328@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

Any fool can buy Distiller but many clients find it pretty expensive.
We use the German FreePDF which is absolutely free:

  http://freepdfxp.de/fpxp.htm

It has the advantage of using the Apple PS driver as well as
Ghostscript which ensures a high level of compatibility. Some time ago
we did some testing with the alternatives and found all sort of
troubles from using wrong fonts, margin offsets, wrong paper format,
and other things. Some issues are only present for complicated docs.

Be sure to download the "Administration Manual" as well as the
resource kit (some VBA code examples) and the Multidocument Printer
option. 
There is no API but you can control it by registry settings and
command line parameters.

Installation is not that difficult. Batch files are included for
silent install on user's station as well as Terminal Server.

/gustav


> Date: 2004-10-16 17:51

> As some of you may know from previous messages, when the subject of PDF 
> and Email came up, I recommended PDFMail, a class library from Attac 
> Consulting. Recently I encountered significantly different behaviour 
> when using Acrobat 6 as opposed to 5; which behaviour the client deems 
> unacceptable. So I inquired about the costs of upgrading and was 
> dismayed to learn that the Pro package I had bought for $199 now goes 
for >> $500, and the upgrade is more than I paid in the first place.

> So now I'm looking for an alternative. At a minimum, it must:
> a) support creation of a PDF from any given Access report;
> b) support, with a minimum of fuss, emaling said PDF to any specified 
> recipient, and ideally setting up mail subject and body with a minimum 
> of fuss;
> c) support the merging or amalgamation of several reports into a single PDF.

> Attac's PDFMail does all this, and works flawlessly with Acrobat 5, but 
> without the upgrade there are issues if Acrobat 6 is installed rather 
> than 5.

> In case it helps, in the app of concern I print several documents -- an 
> invoice, a hotel confirmation, a ticket to a party, etc. All these 
> documents are based on the invoice selected when you hit PrintAndEmail. 
> The reason we went PDF in the first place is that conversion to RTF etc. 
> failed to reproduce the documents exactly as they were.

> To phrase this last part in another way, PDF reproduces the color logos 
> etc., which are a big part of the sizzle, flawlessly. But PDF itself is 
> not a mandatory part of the spec -- flawless reproduction IS. If there 
> is another way to go, I'm interested, the more so if this way is free or 
> cheap. The client is extremely reluctant to spring the $500 + that Attac 
> wants for the upgrade.

> Any alternatives come to mind? I don't want to have to install 5 pieces 
> of software on each client machine, nor cause the users to do anything 
> more than click on one button. After that everything should simply "happen".

> TIA,
> Arthur
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Oct 17 18:03:58 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:03:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules
Message-ID: <000001c4b49d$95f23480$de1811d8@danwaters>

Has anyone tried this?

 

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCompileAllModules

 

I wanted to use it to detect any compile errors before shutting down my
development database.  I tested with a misspelled keyword (DoCmd.Close
acformX, "frmMyForm"), and this was not detected by the compile command.  Of
course if I click the compile button it is detected.

 

Should this work as I'm expecting?

 

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems, Inc.



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Oct 18 01:29:58 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:29:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules
References: <000001c4b49d$95f23480$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <417362E6.5010400@shaw.ca>

You could try these
http://www.access.vis.pl/af0424a.htm

My Polish is lousy.
NB.  IMPORTANT  These undocumented commands should only be attempted by 
fully qualified stunt driver.

    ' Call a hidden SysCmd to automatically compile/save all modules.
         Call SysCmd(504, 16483)

or you could also try Application.IsCompiled   I have heard this maynot 
work in cases where you don't
have full permissions to all objects in the database.Linked tables maybe?

Polish List

SysCmd(7) 'Detects the Access VERSION number

For Access 97:

SysCmd 603, PathMdb, PathMde 'convert MDB -> MDE
SysCmd 602, PathMdb, PathMdb 'compact DB
SysCmd 555 'create MSysIMEX... tables
SysCmd(504, 16483) 'save and compile code
SysCmd(504, 16484) 'save code without compiling
SysCmd(501, i) 'list of references, i = 0, 1, ... n
SysCmd(500) 'count of references

For Access 2000+:

SysCmd 603, PathMdb, PathMde 'convert MDB -> MDE
SysCmd 602, PathMdb, PathMdb 'compact DB
'You must use in this case following method, example:
    Dim accApp As Access.Application
    Set accApp = New Access.Application
    accApp.SysCmd 603, PathMdb, PathMde
    accApp.SysCmd 602, PathMdb, PathMdb
    Set accApp = Nothing
SysCmd(605, 0) 'convert DB to previous version
SysCmd(605, "C:\Database97.mdb") 'convert DB to previous version
SysCmd(607,"C:\Project1.adp") 'convert DB to ADP project
SysCmd(608, i) '60 tips about Access programming for i=0, 1, ... 60
SysCmd(710, 68486165) 'set Polish keyboard (if installed)
SysCmd(710, 67699721) 'set US keyboard
SysCmd(710, 68748313) 'set Russian keyboard
SysCmd(710, 67634184) 'set Greek keyboard
SysCmd(710, ...) 'set other country keyboard
SysCmd(710,1) 'set next installed keyboard
SysCmd(710,0) 'set previous installed keyboard
SysCmd(711) 'return put keyboard currently
SysCmd(714) 'returns TRUE, if any form, report, macro or module is in design
mode
SysCmd(715) 'returns Build number of MSACCESS.EXE file to check Access
version or e.g. which Service Pack is installed.



Dan Waters wrote:

>Has anyone tried this?
>
> 
>
>DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCompileAllModules
>
> 
>
>I wanted to use it to detect any compile errors before shutting down my
>development database.  I tested with a misspelled keyword (DoCmd.Close
>acformX, "frmMyForm"), and this was not detected by the compile command.  Of
>course if I click the compile button it is detected.
>
> 
>
>Should this work as I'm expecting?
>
> 
>
>Dan Waters
>
>ProMation Systems, Inc.
>
>  
>

-- 
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Canada





From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Oct 18 04:02:27 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:02:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules
In-Reply-To: <000001c4b49d$95f23480$de1811d8@danwaters>
References: <000001c4b49d$95f23480$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <776632176.20041018110227@cactus.dk>

Hi Dan

> Has anyone tried this?

> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCompileAllModules

> I wanted to use it to detect any compile errors before shutting down my
> development database.  I tested with a misspelled keyword (DoCmd.Close
> acformX, "frmMyForm"), and this was not detected by the compile command.  Of
> course if I click the compile button it is detected.

> Should this work as I'm expecting?

Perhaps, but it doesn't - because you can't ask the code to compile
itself.

You have to run this command from a macro.
We had a long thread on this and references. Look up in the archives:

  "Broken References in Runtime AXP and A97. Solved!"

from 2003-07-23.

The macro is there shown converted to VBA code.
However, Marty learned us how to save and load objects as text, so
here goes:

  Application.LoadFromText acMacro, "AutoExec", "autoexec.txt"

and here is the text to save as autoexec.txt:

<snip>

Version = 131074
ColumnsShown = 3
Begin
    Action ="Echo"
    Argument ="0"
End
Begin
    Condition ="CheckReferences()=False"
    Action ="RunCode"
    Argument ="VerifyReferences(True)"
End
Begin
    Condition ="..."
    Action ="OpenModule"
    Argument ="USysReferencesCheck"
End
Begin
    Condition ="..."
    Action ="RunCommand"
    Argument ="126"
End
Begin
    Condition ="..."
    Action ="Close"
    Argument ="-1"
    Argument =""
    Argument ="0"
End
Begin
    Action ="Echo"
    Argument ="-1"
End

</snip>

/gustav



From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Mon Oct 18 07:26:31 2004
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:26:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] RE: A2k2 doCmd.RunSQL won't run my SQL...
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188064331E6@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Fred 

I think you may be on to something with the permissions, I'll look into it.

Many thanks!
Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Hooper [mailto:fahooper at trapo.com] 
Sent: 15 October 2004 19:38
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: A2k2 doCmd.RunSQL won't run my SQL...

Hi Tom,

Two thoughts:
(1) Your permissions may be different in your two methods of executing the
SQL depending on how SQL Server is set up.
(2) I haven't tried to use DoCmd.RunSQL for indexing SQL Server. However,
I've successfully used an ADO cmd for indexing. Unfortunately, I no longer
have the code for an example.

Hope this helps,
Fred Hooper

|-----Original Message-----
|From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
|[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tom Bolton
|Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:36 AM
|To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
|Subject: [AccessD] RE: A2k2 doCmd.RunSQL won't run my SQL...
|
|
|Hi guys
|
|First post from a VB / ASP developer who's been left in charge 
|of an Access mod...  sorry to kick off by begging for help ;-)
|
|I am trying to programatically link to an SQL v7 table from my 
|Access DB, the source table sits on a networked SQL Server 
|box.  I'm using ADOX etc. to bring the table in.  Everything 
|goes fine until I try and index the table with an SQL CREATE 
|INDEX statement, executed using the DoCmd.RunSQL method. It 
|just doesn't work - it fails silently.
|
|If I take the contents of the string variable from the 
|immediate window and paste it into a query, it runs fine and 
|indexes my table.
|
|It's driving me to distraction...  any help would be greatly 
|appreciated, many thanks in advance.
|
|Tom Bolton
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Oct 18 09:53:04 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:53:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules - Solved!
In-Reply-To: <31324646.1098081390720.JavaMail.root@sniper5.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c4b522$2cd468d0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Gustav & Marty,

 

I put this code in the Click event of the system Exit button:

 

If CurrentPCName = "DanWaters" Then

    '-- Try to compile the VBA code.  If it doesn't compile, stop system

        shutdown. _

        Note: If VBA code can't be compiled, no error is raised.  But,

                  Application.IsCompiled will still be False. _

              If VBA code can be compiled, then it will be compiled and 

                  Application.IsCompiled will then be True.

    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCompileAllModules

    If Application.IsCompiled = False Then

        FormattedMsgBox GstgNotReady, "The database could not compile!@ @",

            vbExclamation + vbOKOnly, "Not Compiled"

        Exit Sub

    End If

End If

 

The function CurrentPCName is my function which uses the API
GetComputerName.

 

It turns out that acCmdCompileAllModules really does compile code in the
current database.

 

 

Thanks for your help!

Dan

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules

 

You could try these

http://www.access.vis.pl/af0424a.htm

 

My Polish is lousy.

NB.  IMPORTANT  These undocumented commands should only be attempted by 

fully qualified stunt driver.

 

    ' Call a hidden SysCmd to automatically compile/save all modules.

         Call SysCmd(504, 16483)

 

or you could also try Application.IsCompiled   I have heard this maynot 

work in cases where you don't

have full permissions to all objects in the database.Linked tables maybe?

 

Polish List

 

SysCmd(7) 'Detects the Access VERSION number

 

For Access 97:

 

SysCmd 603, PathMdb, PathMde 'convert MDB -> MDE

SysCmd 602, PathMdb, PathMdb 'compact DB

SysCmd 555 'create MSysIMEX... tables

SysCmd(504, 16483) 'save and compile code

SysCmd(504, 16484) 'save code without compiling

SysCmd(501, i) 'list of references, i = 0, 1, ... n

SysCmd(500) 'count of references

 

For Access 2000+:

 

SysCmd 603, PathMdb, PathMde 'convert MDB -> MDE

SysCmd 602, PathMdb, PathMdb 'compact DB

'You must use in this case following method, example:

    Dim accApp As Access.Application

    Set accApp = New Access.Application

    accApp.SysCmd 603, PathMdb, PathMde

    accApp.SysCmd 602, PathMdb, PathMdb

    Set accApp = Nothing

SysCmd(605, 0) 'convert DB to previous version

SysCmd(605, "C:\Database97.mdb") 'convert DB to previous version

SysCmd(607,"C:\Project1.adp") 'convert DB to ADP project

SysCmd(608, i) '60 tips about Access programming for i=0, 1, ... 60

SysCmd(710, 68486165) 'set Polish keyboard (if installed)

SysCmd(710, 67699721) 'set US keyboard

SysCmd(710, 68748313) 'set Russian keyboard

SysCmd(710, 67634184) 'set Greek keyboard

SysCmd(710, ...) 'set other country keyboard

SysCmd(710,1) 'set next installed keyboard

SysCmd(710,0) 'set previous installed keyboard

SysCmd(711) 'return put keyboard currently

SysCmd(714) 'returns TRUE, if any form, report, macro or module is in design

mode

SysCmd(715) 'returns Build number of MSACCESS.EXE file to check Access

version or e.g. which Service Pack is installed.

 

 

 

Dan Waters wrote:

 

>Has anyone tried this?

>

> 

>

>DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCompileAllModules

>

> 

>

>I wanted to use it to detect any compile errors before shutting down my

>development database.  I tested with a misspelled keyword (DoCmd.Close

>acformX, "frmMyForm"), and this was not detected by the compile command.
Of

>course if I click the compile button it is detected.

>

> 

>

>Should this work as I'm expecting?

>

> 

>

>Dan Waters

>

>ProMation Systems, Inc.

>

>  

>

 

-- 

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Victoria, B.C.

Canada

 

 

 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Oct 18 10:19:05 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:19:05 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules - Solved!
In-Reply-To: <000d01c4b522$2cd468d0$de1811d8@danwaters>
References: <000d01c4b522$2cd468d0$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <14529230701.20041018171905@cactus.dk>

Hi Dan

I haven't tested this scenario.
Are you sure the code is compiled when you reopen the application?

The original problem was that whenever you fiddle with the references
- as you do if you reestablish these after having found one or more
missing reference - you wish to have the code compiled before moving
on. That couldn't be done without moving the task to the AutoExec
macro. 

/gustav


> I put this code in the Click event of the system Exit button:

> If CurrentPCName = "DanWaters" Then
>     '-- Try to compile the VBA code.  If it doesn't compile, stop system
>         shutdown. _
>         Note: If VBA code can't be compiled, no error is raised.  But,
>                   Application.IsCompiled will still be False. _
>               If VBA code can be compiled, then it will be compiled and
>                   Application.IsCompiled will then be True.
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCompileAllModules
>     If Application.IsCompiled = False Then
>         FormattedMsgBox GstgNotReady, "The database could not compile!@ @",
>             vbExclamation + vbOKOnly, "Not Compiled"
>         Exit Sub
>     End If
> End If

> The function CurrentPCName is my function which uses the API
> GetComputerName.

> It turns out that acCmdCompileAllModules really does compile code in the
> current database.



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Oct 18 11:53:59 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:53:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules - Solved!
In-Reply-To: <25230394.1098113286597.JavaMail.root@sniper2.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <001501c4b533$105f3110$de1811d8@danwaters>

Hi Gustav,

I just tested this when the database was not compiled, then compiled using
DoCmd.CompileAllModules in the shutdown sequence.  When I reopened the
database it was still compiled.

I haven't been doing anything with references, I just wanted to find a way
to catch myself if code couldn't be compiled prior to closing the database.


Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules - Solved!

Hi Dan

I haven't tested this scenario.
Are you sure the code is compiled when you reopen the application?

The original problem was that whenever you fiddle with the references
- as you do if you reestablish these after having found one or more
missing reference - you wish to have the code compiled before moving
on. That couldn't be done without moving the task to the AutoExec
macro. 

/gustav


> I put this code in the Click event of the system Exit button:

> If CurrentPCName = "DanWaters" Then
>     '-- Try to compile the VBA code.  If it doesn't compile, stop system
>         shutdown. _
>         Note: If VBA code can't be compiled, no error is raised.  But,
>                   Application.IsCompiled will still be False. _
>               If VBA code can be compiled, then it will be compiled and
>                   Application.IsCompiled will then be True.
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCompileAllModules
>     If Application.IsCompiled = False Then
>         FormattedMsgBox GstgNotReady, "The database could not compile!@
@",
>             vbExclamation + vbOKOnly, "Not Compiled"
>         Exit Sub
>     End If
> End If

> The function CurrentPCName is my function which uses the API
> GetComputerName.

> It turns out that acCmdCompileAllModules really does compile code in the
> current database.

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Mon Oct 18 07:24:57 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 05:24:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: [dba-Tech] Script Editor (x-posted)
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7D9@nprdex02.nns.com>

Any suggestions for the problem listed below?


TIA,

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 1:51 PM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] Script Editor


Anyone have a free recommendation for a utility that will take a .js file
(that has zero line breaks) and reformat it back to "normal"?


Mark
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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Mon Oct 18 13:01:39 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:01:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738EC@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I am using the following code to open a from the menu form and filter the
records so that the user sees only their records.

    Dim stDocName As String

    Dim stLinkCriteria As String

    

    stDocName = "frmProjects"

    stLinkCriteria = "[QAFName]=" & "'" & Me![UsersName] & "'"

    

    DoCmd.Close 'Closes the menu form.

    

    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria

 

The problem is that sometimes the user's name will not  be found on the form
in the [QAFName] text box.  This would simply mean that the user is not a
"Quality Assurance" person on anybody's project.  When this happens I don't
want the form to open.  I want a message box to pop up that says "You are
not the QA on any projects".  On clicking ok on the message box the menu
opens back up.  

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Mon Oct 18 13:23:21 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:23:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F501E26383@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>

Susan,

Try something like:

(air code)

	Dim stDocName As String
	Dim stLinkCriteria As String

	If Nz(Dlookup("[ProjectID]","tblProjects","[QAFName]='" &
Me![UsersName] & "'"),"NotFound") = "NotFound" Then
		MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects."
	Else
		stDocName = "frmProjects"	
		stLinkCriteria = "[QAFName]=" & "'" & Me![UsersName] &
"'"
		DoCmd.Close 'Closes the menu form.
		DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
	End If

Just substitute your actual field and table names in the dlookup
function.

HTH,

Don McGillivray




From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Mon Oct 18 13:31:59 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:31:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407BD@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

OK.  I am doing the same thing to open a form and determine pretty much
the same kind of filter.  I get queezy using dlookups and was trying to
find a better way, not using dlookups, to achieve the same
functionality.  I was under the assumption that using dlookups is a nono
as other programs do not understand them (in the event I upgrade to
VB.net) and dlookups are slow.  Any other suggestions beside the old
dlookup method?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mcgillivray,
Donald [ITS]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 2:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


Susan,

Try something like:

(air code)

	Dim stDocName As String
	Dim stLinkCriteria As String

	If Nz(Dlookup("[ProjectID]","tblProjects","[QAFName]='" &
Me![UsersName] & "'"),"NotFound") = "NotFound" Then
		MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects."
	Else
		stDocName = "frmProjects"	
		stLinkCriteria = "[QAFName]=" & "'" & Me![UsersName] &
"'"
		DoCmd.Close 'Closes the menu form.
		DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
	End If

Just substitute your actual field and table names in the dlookup
function.

HTH,

Don McGillivray


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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Oct 18 13:52:23 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:52:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337183@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

How about seek? Would that work here?
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


OK.  I am doing the same thing to open a form and determine pretty much
the same kind of filter.  I get queezy using dlookups and was trying to
find a better way, not using dlookups, to achieve the same
functionality.  I was under the assumption that using dlookups is a nono
as other programs do not understand them (in the event I upgrade to
VB.net) and dlookups are slow.  Any other suggestions beside the old
dlookup method?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mcgillivray,
Donald [ITS]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 2:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


Susan,

Try something like:

(air code)

	Dim stDocName As String
	Dim stLinkCriteria As String

	If Nz(Dlookup("[ProjectID]","tblProjects","[QAFName]='" &
Me![UsersName] & "'"),"NotFound") = "NotFound" Then
		MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects."
	Else
		stDocName = "frmProjects"	
		stLinkCriteria = "[QAFName]=" & "'" & Me![UsersName] &
"'"
		DoCmd.Close 'Closes the menu form.
		DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
	End If

Just substitute your actual field and table names in the dlookup
function.

HTH,

Don McGillivray


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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Mon Oct 18 13:56:03 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:56:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F501E263FC@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>

Well, I don't have to worry much about portability issues, but I'd be
interested in the opinions of folks better versed than I in the area of
optimization.  I was under the impression that a simple one-time call to
a domain function in a case like this is no big deal in terms of speed.
(I suppose it depends on the size of the table.)  I do avoid using them
in iterative processes, however.  

Maybe after applying the filter you could evaluate the state of the
form's underlying recordset (eof/bof) upon open (load?), and, if it's
empty, display a message box and close the form.  Just speculating here
- haven't actually tried it.



-----Original Message-----

OK.  I am doing the same thing to open a form and determine pretty much
the same kind of filter.  I get queezy using dlookups and was trying to
find a better way, not using dlookups, to achieve the same
functionality.  I was under the assumption that using dlookups is a nono
as other programs do not understand them (in the event I upgrade to
VB.net) and dlookups are slow.  Any other suggestions beside the old
dlookup method?


From artful at rogers.com  Mon Oct 18 14:21:34 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:21:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
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Susan Harkins wrote:

>I've got some SQL code that compares two tables and reports on records that
>aren't in both tables. I did a bit of checking to be sure, but I can't find
>any built-in Access feature that does this -- anyone know of a wizard or
>something that I might have missed? I'd hate to recommend something that's
>not necessary. 
> 
>Susan H. 
>  
>
That must be some bitchin' code, rather like the SQL underlying such 
statements from "Star Trek" as, "Scan the federation databases for 
anomalies."

I would suggest that the set of records not found in both tables is 
infinite, to say the least. :)

A.


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Oct 18 16:39:28 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:39:28 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
In-Reply-To: <417417BE.5030103@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <006701c4b55a$f20870a0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

ROTFLMAO

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Arthur Fuller
> Sent: 18 October 2004 20:22
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] comparing tables
> 
> 
> Susan Harkins wrote:
> 
> >I've got some SQL code that compares two tables and reports 
> on records 
> >that aren't in both tables. I did a bit of checking to be 
> sure, but I 
> >can't find any built-in Access feature that does this -- 
> anyone know of 
> >a wizard or something that I might have missed? I'd hate to 
> recommend 
> >something that's not necessary.
> > 
> >Susan H.
> >  
> >
> That must be some bitchin' code, rather like the SQL underlying such 
> statements from "Star Trek" as, "Scan the federation databases for 
> anomalies."
> 
> I would suggest that the set of records not found in both tables is 
> infinite, to say the least. :)
> 
> A.
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Mon Oct 18 17:04:12 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:04:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase
Message-ID: <166240-220041011822412200@christopherhawkins.com>

So here's the dilemma.  I have an mdb that is executing
DoCmd.TransferDatabase to pull a .dbf file in.  This work great on
every machine except for one.  On the problem machine, the code
throws an error (paraphrased):  "run-time error 2507: the type "DBASE
5.0" is not an installed database type".

I've googoled but to no avail.  WHat's really kicking my butt is that
I've heard of this one befroe, I know it.  But I can't find any
solutions anywhere.

Has anyone seen this, or have a link to a KBase article or something
I can use to guide my way througha troubleshoot?
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Oct 18 17:26:08 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:26:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407BD@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <4174CFA0.7818.19243AED@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 18 Oct 2004 at 14:31, Nicholson, Karen wrote:

> OK.  I am doing the same thing to open a form and determine pretty much
> the same kind of filter.  I get queezy using dlookups and was trying to
> find a better way, not using dlookups, to achieve the same
> functionality.  I was under the assumption that using dlookups is a nono
> as other programs do not understand them (in the event I upgrade to
> VB.net) and dlookups are slow.  Any other suggestions beside the old
> dlookup method?
> 

If you want to avoid DLookup/DCount et al, you can roll your own 
equivalent. Something along the lines of:

Function IsQA(User as String) as Boolean
	Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
	rs = CurrentDB.Openrecordset("Select count(*) from tblProjects where 	
QAFName = '" & User & "'")
	IsQA =  rs(0)
End Function

Then just use:

If IsQA(Username) Then
    DoCmd.OpenForm "frmProjects",,,,"QAFName ='" & Username & "'"
Else
    MsgBox "You are not QA on any Project"
End If


-- 
Stuart




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct 18 17:33:53 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:33:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AE8@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Don't you need the Borland Database engine on the machine to handle
dBase 5.0?  Try googling for that or for "BDE"

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 3:04 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase


So here's the dilemma.  I have an mdb that is executing
DoCmd.TransferDatabase to pull a .dbf file in.  This work great on every
machine except for one.  On the problem machine, the code throws an
error (paraphrased):  "run-time error 2507: the type "DBASE 5.0" is not
an installed database type".

I've googoled but to no avail.  WHat's really kicking my butt is that
I've heard of this one befroe, I know it.  But I can't find any
solutions anywhere.

Has anyone seen this, or have a link to a KBase article or something I
can use to guide my way througha troubleshoot? Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Oct 18 17:41:52 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:41:52 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AE8@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200410182242.i9IMg0XH022642@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Chris
Not a solution - just a suggestion
Try the usual 'update to latest' packs

IE install the latest Jet for that OS 
Latest Service pack for that OS
Make sure all the data options for that version of Office are installed etc.

Hope this helps

Darren
 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2004 8:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase

Don't you need the Borland Database engine on the machine to handle dBase
5.0?  Try googling for that or for "BDE"

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 3:04 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase


So here's the dilemma.  I have an mdb that is executing
DoCmd.TransferDatabase to pull a .dbf file in.  This work great on every
machine except for one.  On the problem machine, the code throws an
error (paraphrased):  "run-time error 2507: the type "DBASE 5.0" is not
an installed database type".

I've googoled but to no avail.  WHat's really kicking my butt is that
I've heard of this one befroe, I know it.  But I can't find any
solutions anywhere.

Has anyone seen this, or have a link to a KBase article or something I
can use to guide my way througha troubleshoot? Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 19 01:41:31 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:41:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase
In-Reply-To: <166240-220041011822412200@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <007a01c4b5a6$ab9e8db0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Chris
Isn't support for DBF an option on the Access install? Could it be that
machine didn't opt for it?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Hawkins
> Sent: 18 October 2004 23:04
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase
> 
> 
> So here's the dilemma.  I have an mdb that is executing 
> DoCmd.TransferDatabase to pull a .dbf file in.  This work 
> great on every machine except for one.  On the problem 
> machine, the code throws an error (paraphrased):  "run-time 
> error 2507: the type "DBASE 5.0" is not an installed database type".
> 
> I've googoled but to no avail.  WHat's really kicking my butt 
> is that I've heard of this one befroe, I know it.  But I 
> can't find any solutions anywhere.
> 
> Has anyone seen this, or have a link to a KBase article or 
> something I can use to guide my way througha troubleshoot? 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Christopher Hawkins
> Software Developer
> (559) 687-7591
> http://www.christopherhawkins.com
> 
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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Tue Oct 19 02:14:27 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:14:27 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C3D4@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Morning Christopher!

Sorry I'm a day late with this.

Below is the batch file that I use to update an Access FE file on user's
local C: drives.

The file 'lives' on the same network 'share' as the current FE file
(\\<server>\<path>\ChrisFoote\). 

It checks to see if the locally stored file has the same filename as the
latest version (this is 'hard coded' in the batch file).

If it is, it runs Access and opens the FE file and quits the batch file.

If the file does not exist it makes the required sub-directory, deletes any
existing older version of the file, and copies the latest version to the new
directory.

Access is then run and the new FE file opened.

The users of this db have a desktop link to this batch file.

HTH - Chris Foote

(Now I come to describe the operation of this bat file I realise that it
could be improved somewhat! Still, it seems to work ok ;-O)

----------(Bat file)
@echo off
if not exist "c:\Program Files\jamling\Jamling-a14.mdb" goto getdb:
goto startdb
:getdb
md "c:\Program Files\jamling" >nul
del "c:\Program Files\jamling\Jamling*.mdb" >nul
copy "\\<server>\<path>\ChrisFoote\Jamling-a14.mdb" "c:\Program
Files\jamling" >nul
:startdb
start "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\MSACCESS.EXE" "c:\Program
Files\jamling\Jamling-a14.mdb"
exit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Foote (Spike) [mailto:spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk]
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 9:18 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
> 
> 
> Hi Christopher!
> 
> I have a batch file at work doing just the job you are after.
> 
> If you can wait 'til Monday I'll send it to you then.
> 
> Regards!
> Chris Foote
> 
> 
> <All outgoing e-mail messages are swept for malware using 
> Norton Anti-virus
> 9.05.15 with virus definitions dated 12th October 2004>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
> Hawkins
> Sent: 15 October 2004 20:39
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
> 
> 
> Hello, all.
> 
> I have a client who is constantly tinkering with his home-grown
> Access solution and is constantly rolling out updates (against my
> advice, of course).
> 
> I was about to set him up with a simple batch file that just uses
> COPY [origin] [destination]  to copy  the latest version of the .mdb
> from a folder on the server to a user's machine.  But before I do, I
> want to know if it is possible to get a little fancier.
> 
> I would like the batch file to a) compare the filename on the user's
> machine to the filename on the server, and then b) do the copy if the
> names are different, or c) NOT do the copy if the names are the same
> (my client likes to put the version number in the filename).
> 
> Is this too much to ask of the humble batch file?
> 
> 
> -Christopher-
> 
> P.S.
> And for those of you who wonder why I don't use a vbscript file, this
> client swaps eMachines and other budget boxes in and out of his
> business based on what's on sale at Costco that week (again, against
> my advice).  I can't be sure that new boxes he brings in will have
> WSH or any of the complementary components installed on the
> bastardized version of WinXP that ships with a lot of thses crap
> boxes.  But I know that batch files work on everything from Win95 up.
> ;)
> Respectfully,
> 
> Christopher Hawkins
> Software Developer
> (559) 687-7591
> http://www.christopherhawkins.com
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct 19 04:05:23 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:05:23 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
In-Reply-To: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F501E263FC@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>
References: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F501E263FC@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <926977783.20041019110523@cactus.dk>

Hi Donald and Susan

It's an old and persistent rumour that DLookup is always slow. Quite
often it is not. So, Susan, give it a try - it's extremely simple and
in a minute your problem will be solved and you can move on to the
more funny tasks.

By the way, the code could be simplified even further:

  strCriteria ="[QAFName]='" & Me![UsersName] & "'"
  If IsNull(Dlookup("[ProjectID]", "tblProjects", strCriteria)) Then
    MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects."
  Else
    ' Open form ...
  End If

/gustav


> Well, I don't have to worry much about portability issues, but I'd be
> interested in the opinions of folks better versed than I in the area of
> optimization.  I was under the impression that a simple one-time call to
> a domain function in a case like this is no big deal in terms of speed.
> (I suppose it depends on the size of the table.)  I do avoid using them
> in iterative processes, however.  



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct 19 04:10:53 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:10:53 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
In-Reply-To: <417417BE.5030103@rogers.com>
References: <20041016210746.LLTU2383.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
	<417417BE.5030103@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <1527308328.20041019111053@cactus.dk>

Nice catch Arthur!

/gustav


> Susan Harkins wrote:

>>I've got some SQL code that compares two tables and reports on records that
>>aren't in both tables. I did a bit of checking to be sure, but I can't find
>>any built-in Access feature that does this -- anyone know of a wizard or
>>something that I might have missed? I'd hate to recommend something that's
>>not necessary. 
>> 
>>Susan H. 
>>  
>>
> That must be some bitchin' code, rather like the SQL underlying such 
> statements from "Star Trek" as, "Scan the federation databases for 
> anomalies."

> I would suggest that the set of records not found in both tables is 
> infinite, to say the least. :)

> A.



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Oct 19 05:20:36 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:20:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407C2@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Wowzer.  I am going to try this to see if this works faster than my
dlookup and relieves my conscience (sp?) of using dlookups when I know
this database will be upscaled someday and I won't have another
programmer complaining that I used dlookups.  Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 6:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


On 18 Oct 2004 at 14:31, Nicholson, Karen wrote:

> OK.  I am doing the same thing to open a form and determine pretty
much
> the same kind of filter.  I get queezy using dlookups and was trying
to
> find a better way, not using dlookups, to achieve the same
> functionality.  I was under the assumption that using dlookups is a
nono
> as other programs do not understand them (in the event I upgrade to
> VB.net) and dlookups are slow.  Any other suggestions beside the old
> dlookup method?
> 

If you want to avoid DLookup/DCount et al, you can roll your own 
equivalent. Something along the lines of:

Function IsQA(User as String) as Boolean
	Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
	rs = CurrentDB.Openrecordset("Select count(*) from tblProjects
where 	
QAFName = '" & User & "'")
	IsQA =  rs(0)
End Function

Then just use:

If IsQA(Username) Then
    DoCmd.OpenForm "frmProjects",,,,"QAFName ='" & Username & "'"
Else
    MsgBox "You are not QA on any Project"
End If


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 19 05:42:09 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:42:09 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Message-ID: <20041019104207.0C00024CDA7@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Can you enumerate through the event procedures of a form or control? I want
to modify my homespun search routine to look for function calls triggered
from an event (not from code), and was wondering if I can do a For Each sort
of loop or if I've got to specify each event/
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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 19 07:22:57 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:22:57 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC4@starfleet.unknown.local>

Guys,

Does anyone know how, using DAO, to check whether a recordset is currently open and also whether the database is currently open. In ADO you can use "State", but there seems to be no equivalent in DAO...

Any ideas?

Vlad




From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 19 07:24:10 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:24:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328088648@starfleet.unknown.local>

Marty,

Your a god!

Thanks
Vlad


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2004 2:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


On the filemaker site there are methods to export files to an xml 
spreadsheet Excel 2002 or 2003
Then just export to Access. May not work for your version of FileMaker tho.
http://www.filemaker.com/technologies/xslt_library.html

ACTEBS wrote:

>Guys,
> 
>Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
>client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
>and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
>installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
>into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.
> 
>I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
>find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
>that that is value for money...
> 
>Any help greatly appreciated...
> 
>Vlad
> 
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Oct 19 07:41:51 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (bchacc at san.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:41:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Message-ID: <32270-2200410219124151596@M2W079.mail2web.com>


Vlad,

All I can think of right off is to issue a DAO command like .FindFirst and
trap the error.

HTH anyway,

Rocky


Original Message:
-----------------
From: ACTEBS actebs at actebs.com.au
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:22:57 +1000
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?


Guys,

Does anyone know how, using DAO, to check whether a recordset is currently
open and also whether the database is currently open. In ADO you can use
"State", but there seems to be no equivalent in DAO...

Any ideas?

Vlad


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 19 07:43:45 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:43:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Message-ID: <20041019124343.010DC25550E@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi Vlad

How about:

If rst Is Nothing Then


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Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Date: 19/10/04 12:26

>
> Guys,
>
> Does anyone know how, using DAO, to check whether a recordset is currently
open and also whether the database is currently open. In ADO you can use
&quot;State&quot;, but there seems to be no equivalent in DAO...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Vlad
>
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct 19 07:48:49 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:48:49 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC4@starfleet.unknown.local>
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC4@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <17220383910.20041019144849@cactus.dk>

Hi Vlad

I believe the only method is to try to open it exclusively and catch
the error if that fails.

/gustav

> Does anyone know how, using DAO, to check whether a recordset is
> currently open and also whether the database is currently open. In
> ADO you can use "State", but there seems to be no equivalent in  
> DAO...



From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 19 08:05:52 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:05:52 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328088649@starfleet.unknown.local>

Andy,

You're a star. Thanks to Gustav and Rocky for their suggestions. For the life of me I couldn't come up with that. I love this list!

Vlad


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2004 10:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?


Hi Vlad

How about:

If rst Is Nothing Then


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To: Access Group E-mail <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Date: 19/10/04 12:26

>
> Guys,
>
> Does anyone know how, using DAO, to check whether a recordset is currently
open and also whether the database is currently open. In ADO you can use
&quot;State&quot;, but there seems to be no equivalent in DAO...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Vlad
>
>
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From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Tue Oct 19 08:24:53 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:24:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
References: <20041019104207.0C00024CDA7@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <00aa01c4b5df$05895fc0$6401a8c0@default>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:42 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??


> Can you enumerate through the event procedures of a form or control? I
want
> to modify my homespun search routine to look for function calls triggered
> from an event (not from code), and was wondering if I can do a For Each
sort
> of loop or if I've got to specify each event/
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk

Andy,

You can iterate through each Control and Form/Report
using a properties loop:

Const EVP As String = "[Event Procedure]"
Dim prp As Access.Property

For each prp in Obj.Properties
    If IsEvent(prp.Name) Then
        If prp.Value = EVP Then
            '
        End If
    End If
Next

Function IsEvent(prpName As String) As Boolean
'Actually, this is a table in one of the A97 Wizards
    IsEvent = False
        Select Case prpName
            Case "BeforeInsert", "AfterInsert", "ApplyFilter"
                IsEvent = True
            Case "BeforeUpdate", "AfterUpdate"
                IsEvent = True
            Case "BeforeDelConfirm", "AfterDelConfirm"
                IsEvent = True
            Case Else
                If Left(prpName, 2) = "On" Then
                    IsEvent = True
                End If
        End Select
End Function
----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Tue Oct 19 09:15:42 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 19:45:42 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
References: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738EC@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.i
	nt>
Message-ID: <003f01c4b5e6$5c366230$ac1865cb@winxp>

Canceling Open Action Of Form - If No Record
===================================

    As a generic solution, insertion of code block given at (A) below, in Open event of the target form, will ensure that if there is no record (in its record source), the form will refuse to open and display a custom message instead.

    This solution is universally applicable, whatever the filtering criteria in the command used for opening the form. It is however desirable to precede such a command by the following statement, in order to prevent error message (2501 - The OpenForm action was cancelled).
    On Error Resume Next

    It is observed from the original post (by Susan), that the command for closing the menu form has been placed before that for opening the target form. It has to be the other way around. Suggested revised code for click event of appropriate command button (CmdOpen) on the menu form, is given at (B) below.

A.D.Tejpal
--------------

(A) Code in target form (frmProjects)
==================================
Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    With Me.RecordsetClone
        If .BOF And .EOF Then
            MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects"
            Cancel = 1
        End If
    End With
End Sub
==================================

(B) Code in Menu Form
==================================
Private Sub CmdOpen_Click()
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
    
    If Len(Nz(UsersName, "")) = 0 Then
        Exit Sub
    End If
    
    stDocName = "frmProjects"
    stLinkCriteria = "[QAFName]=" &  _
                                "'" & Me![UsersName] & "'"
    
    On Error Resume Next
        DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
    On Error GoTo 0

    DoCmd.Close acForm, Me.Name
    
End Sub
==================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 14:35
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


  Hi Donald and Susan

  It's an old and persistent rumour that DLookup is always slow. Quite often it is not. So, Susan, give it a try - it's extremely simple and in a minute your problem will be solved and you can move on to the more funny tasks.

  By the way, the code could be simplified even further:

    strCriteria ="[QAFName]='" & Me![UsersName] & "'"
    If IsNull(Dlookup("[ProjectID]", "tblProjects", strCriteria)) Then
      MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects."
    Else
      ' Open form ...
    End If

  /gustav


  > Well, I don't have to worry much about portability issues, but I'd be interested in the opinions of folks better versed than I in the area of optimization.  
  I was under the impression that a simple one-time call to a domain function in a case like this is no big deal in terms of speed. 
  > (I suppose it depends on the size of the table.)  I do avoid using them in iterative processes, however.  

  << SNIP >>

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Klos, Susan 
  To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' 
  Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 23:31
  Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


  I am using the following code to open a from the menu form and filter the records so that the user sees only their records.

      Dim stDocName As String
      Dim stLinkCriteria As String    

      stDocName = "frmProjects"
      stLinkCriteria = "[QAFName]=" & "'" & Me![UsersName] & "'"    

      DoCmd.Close 'Closes the menu form.
      DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria 

  The problem is that sometimes the user's name will not  be found on the form in the [QAFName] text box.  This would simply mean that the user is not a "Quality Assurance" person on anybody's project.  
  When this happens I don't want the form to open.  I want a message box to pop up that says "You are not the QA on any projects".  On clicking ok on the message box the menu
  opens back up.   

  Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

  Susan Klos
  Senior Database Analyst
  Evaluation and Reporting
  Florida Department of Education
  850-245-0708 
  sc 205-0708



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 19 09:33:13 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:33:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86651CA4@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I agree, Gustav.  Sometimes a domain aggregate function is the *fastest*
way to get a single piece of information, since all you're doing is
effectively running a query on the fly to return a single value.  Where
it is slow is in a query where it executes once for every record.  And
in code, returning a single recordset and working with that is faster
when it replaces multiple Dlookups.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


Hi Donald and Susan

It's an old and persistent rumour that DLookup is always slow. Quite
often it is not. So, Susan, give it a try - it's extremely simple and in
a minute your problem will be solved and you can move on to the more
funny tasks.

By the way, the code could be simplified even further:

  strCriteria ="[QAFName]='" & Me![UsersName] & "'"
  If IsNull(Dlookup("[ProjectID]", "tblProjects", strCriteria)) Then
    MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects."
  Else
    ' Open form ...
  End If

/gustav


> Well, I don't have to worry much about portability issues, but I'd be 
> interested in the opinions of folks better versed than I in the area 
> of optimization.  I was under the impression that a simple one-time 
> call to a domain function in a case like this is no big deal in terms 
> of speed. (I suppose it depends on the size of the table.)  I do avoid

> using them in iterative processes, however.

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 19 09:34:02 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:34:02 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Message-ID: <20041019143358.AFCB6253B8E@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Happy to help Vlad. Note though that my solution only looks to see if you
(ie the cuuent instance of Access) have that recordset open. The others were
looking to see if the underlying table was open anywhere. Be sure to choose
the right one for what you're after.

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Date: 19/10/04 13:09

>
> Andy,
>
> You're a star. Thanks to Gustav and Rocky for their suggestions. For the
life of me I couldn't come up with that. I love this list!
>
> Vlad
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2004 10:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
>
>
> Hi Vlad
>
> How about:
>
> If rst Is Nothing Then
>
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> To: Access Group E-mail &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
> Date: 19/10/04 12:26
>
> &gt;
> &gt; Guys,
> &gt;
> &gt; Does anyone know how, using DAO, to check whether a recordset is
currently
> open and also whether the database is currently open. In ADO you can use
> &amp;quot;State&amp;quot;, but there seems to be no equivalent in DAO...
> &gt;
> &gt; Any ideas?
> &gt;
> &gt; Vlad
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; --
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> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 19 09:57:06 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:57:06 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Message-ID: <20041019145703.417432547B6@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi Michael
That looks great but when I open a form (A97 BTW) and iterate through its
properties I don't see any of the events, just things like its Name,
LastUpdated and stuff. What am I doing wrong?

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Date: 19/10/04 13:33

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: &quot;Andy Lacey&quot; &lt;andy at minstersystems.co.uk&gt;
> To: &quot;Access Developers discussion and problem solving&quot;
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:42 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
>
>
> &gt; Can you enumerate through the event procedures of a form or control?
I
> want
> &gt; to modify my homespun search routine to look for function calls
triggered
> &gt; from an event (not from code), and was wondering if I can do a For
Each
> sort
> &gt; of loop or if I've got to specify each event/
> &gt; --
> &gt; Andy Lacey
> &gt; http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
> Andy,
>
> You can iterate through each Control and Form/Report
> using a properties loop:
>
> Const EVP As String = &quot;[Event Procedure]&quot;
> Dim prp As Access.Property
>
> For each prp in Obj.Properties
>     If IsEvent(prp.Name) Then
>         If prp.Value = EVP Then
>             '
>         End If
>     End If
> Next
>
> Function IsEvent(prpName As String) As Boolean
> 'Actually, this is a table in one of the A97 Wizards
>     IsEvent = False
>         Select Case prpName
>             Case &quot;BeforeInsert&quot;, &quot;AfterInsert&quot;,
&quot;ApplyFilter&quot;
>                 IsEvent = True
>             Case &quot;BeforeUpdate&quot;, &quot;AfterUpdate&quot;
>                 IsEvent = True
>             Case &quot;BeforeDelConfirm&quot;, &quot;AfterDelConfirm&quot;
>                 IsEvent = True
>             Case Else
>                 If Left(prpName, 2) = &quot;On&quot; Then
>                     IsEvent = True
>                 End If
>         End Select
> End Function
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
> --
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From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Tue Oct 19 10:17:38 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:17:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
References: <20041019145703.417432547B6@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <013201c4b5ee$c783bd00$6401a8c0@default>

Andy,

Everything on the Properties Sheet for any object
is contained within that object's properties collection.
Try putting a stop in the code where you've written
(This is DAO code)

Dim frm As Access.Form
Dim prp As Access.Property
Set frm = Forms("X")
For Each prp In frm.Properties
    Stop
Next

Now look at the Properties Window in the VBE.
You should see every event listed under frm.
What we are looking for is the Name of a property
that is listed in the Select ... Case structure and if it's
value equals EVP, then we know that it triggers an
event.
.
We can also get functions in the property sheet
that are of the form "=MyFunction()" by simply
checking the Len() of the prp.Value and whether
or not it equals EVP or IsNull().

HTH
----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??


> Hi Michael
> That looks great but when I open a form (A97 BTW) and iterate through its
> properties I don't see any of the events, just things like its Name,
> LastUpdated and stuff. What am I doing wrong?
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??
> Date: 19/10/04 13:33
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: &quot;Andy Lacey&quot; &lt;andy at minstersystems.co.uk&gt;
> > To: &quot;Access Developers discussion and problem solving&quot;
> > &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:42 AM
> > Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
> >
> >
> > &gt; Can you enumerate through the event procedures of a form or
control?
> I
> > want
> > &gt; to modify my homespun search routine to look for function calls
> triggered
> > &gt; from an event (not from code), and was wondering if I can do a For
> Each
> > sort
> > &gt; of loop or if I've got to specify each event/
> > &gt; --
> > &gt; Andy Lacey
> > &gt; http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> >
> > Andy,
> >
> > You can iterate through each Control and Form/Report
> > using a properties loop:
> >
> > Const EVP As String = &quot;[Event Procedure]&quot;
> > Dim prp As Access.Property
> >
> > For each prp in Obj.Properties
> >     If IsEvent(prp.Name) Then
> >         If prp.Value = EVP Then
> >             '
> >         End If
> >     End If
> > Next
> >
> > Function IsEvent(prpName As String) As Boolean
> > 'Actually, this is a table in one of the A97 Wizards
> >     IsEvent = False
> >         Select Case prpName
> >             Case &quot;BeforeInsert&quot;, &quot;AfterInsert&quot;,
> &quot;ApplyFilter&quot;
> >                 IsEvent = True
> >             Case &quot;BeforeUpdate&quot;, &quot;AfterUpdate&quot;
> >                 IsEvent = True
> >             Case &quot;BeforeDelConfirm&quot;,
&quot;AfterDelConfirm&quot;
> >                 IsEvent = True
> >             Case Else
> >                 If Left(prpName, 2) = &quot;On&quot; Then
> >                     IsEvent = True
> >                 End If
> >         End Select
> > End Function
> > ----
> >
> > Michael R. Mattys
> > Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> > http://www.mattysconsulting.com
> >
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 19 10:51:25 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:51:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AEE@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If you want to itemize the event procedures, you need to work with the
module, not the form itself.  It's very ugly code.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:57 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??


Hi Michael
That looks great but when I open a form (A97 BTW) and iterate through
its properties I don't see any of the events, just things like its Name,
LastUpdated and stuff. What am I doing wrong?

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Date: 19/10/04 13:33

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: &quot;Andy Lacey&quot; &lt;andy at minstersystems.co.uk&gt;
> To: &quot;Access Developers discussion and problem solving&quot; 
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:42 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
>
>
> &gt; Can you enumerate through the event procedures of a form or 
> control?
I
> want
> &gt; to modify my homespun search routine to look for function calls
triggered
> &gt; from an event (not from code), and was wondering if I can do a 
> For
Each
> sort
> &gt; of loop or if I've got to specify each event/
> &gt; --
> &gt; Andy Lacey
> &gt; http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
> Andy,
>
> You can iterate through each Control and Form/Report
> using a properties loop:
>
> Const EVP As String = &quot;[Event Procedure]&quot;
> Dim prp As Access.Property
>
> For each prp in Obj.Properties
>     If IsEvent(prp.Name) Then
>         If prp.Value = EVP Then
>             '
>         End If
>     End If
> Next
>
> Function IsEvent(prpName As String) As Boolean
> 'Actually, this is a table in one of the A97 Wizards
>     IsEvent = False
>         Select Case prpName
>             Case &quot;BeforeInsert&quot;, &quot;AfterInsert&quot;,
&quot;ApplyFilter&quot;
>                 IsEvent = True
>             Case &quot;BeforeUpdate&quot;, &quot;AfterUpdate&quot;
>                 IsEvent = True
>             Case &quot;BeforeDelConfirm&quot;,
&quot;AfterDelConfirm&quot;
>                 IsEvent = True
>             Case Else
>                 If Left(prpName, 2) = &quot;On&quot; Then
>                     IsEvent = True
>                 End If
>         End Select
> End Function
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
> --
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>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 19 11:18:47 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:18:47 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Message-ID: <20041019161844.28FEA24CC77@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi Michael
Found what I was doing wrong. My code to iterate through the form used

For Each Doc In Ctr.Documents

The Doc properties do not include the Events. I needed the "Set frm =
Forms(0)", and now I see them. Terrific. Thanks again Michael.

--
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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Date: 19/10/04 15:22

>
> Andy,
>
> Everything on the Properties Sheet for any object
> is contained within that object's properties collection.
> Try putting a stop in the code where you've written
> (This is DAO code)
>
> Dim frm As Access.Form
> Dim prp As Access.Property
> Set frm = Forms(&quot;X&quot;)
> For Each prp In frm.Properties
>     Stop
> Next
>
> Now look at the Properties Window in the VBE.
> You should see every event listed under frm.
> What we are looking for is the Name of a property
> that is listed in the Select ... Case structure and if it's
> value equals EVP, then we know that it triggers an
> event.
> ..
> We can also get functions in the property sheet
> that are of the form &quot;=MyFunction()&quot; by simply
> checking the Len() of the prp.Value and whether
> or not it equals EVP or IsNull().
>
> HTH
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: &quot;Andy Lacey&quot; &lt;andy at minstersystems.co.uk&gt;
> To: &quot;Access Developers discussion and problem solving&quot;
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??
>
>
> &gt; Hi Michael
> &gt; That looks great but when I open a form (A97 BTW) and iterate through
its
> &gt; properties I don't see any of the events, just things like its Name,
> &gt; LastUpdated and stuff. What am I doing wrong?
> &gt;
> &gt; --
> &gt; Andy Lacey
> &gt; http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> &gt;
> &gt;
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> &gt; &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> &gt; Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??
> &gt; Date: 19/10/04 13:33
> &gt;
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----
> &gt; &gt; From: &amp;quot;Andy Lacey&amp;quot;
&amp;lt;andy at minstersystems.co.uk&amp;gt;
> &gt; &gt; To: &amp;quot;Access Developers discussion and problem
solving&amp;quot;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&amp;gt;
> &gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:42 AM
> &gt; &gt; Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Can you enumerate through the event procedures of a
form or
> control?
> &gt; I
> &gt; &gt; want
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; to modify my homespun search routine to look for
function calls
> &gt; triggered
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; from an event (not from code), and was wondering if I
can do a For
> &gt; Each
> &gt; &gt; sort
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; of loop or if I've got to specify each event/
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; --
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Andy Lacey
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Andy,
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; You can iterate through each Control and Form/Report
> &gt; &gt; using a properties loop:
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Const EVP As String = &amp;quot;[Event Procedure]&amp;quot;
> &gt; &gt; Dim prp As Access.Property
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; For each prp in Obj.Properties
> &gt; &gt;     If IsEvent(prp.Name) Then
> &gt; &gt;         If prp.Value = EVP Then
> &gt; &gt;             '
> &gt; &gt;         End If
> &gt; &gt;     End If
> &gt; &gt; Next
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Function IsEvent(prpName As String) As Boolean
> &gt; &gt; 'Actually, this is a table in one of the A97 Wizards
> &gt; &gt;     IsEvent = False
> &gt; &gt;         Select Case prpName
> &gt; &gt;             Case &amp;quot;BeforeInsert&amp;quot;,
&amp;quot;AfterInsert&amp;quot;,
> &gt; &amp;quot;ApplyFilter&amp;quot;
> &gt; &gt;                 IsEvent = True
> &gt; &gt;             Case &amp;quot;BeforeUpdate&amp;quot;,
&amp;quot;AfterUpdate&amp;quot;
> &gt; &gt;                 IsEvent = True
> &gt; &gt;             Case &amp;quot;BeforeDelConfirm&amp;quot;,
> &amp;quot;AfterDelConfirm&amp;quot;
> &gt; &gt;                 IsEvent = True
> &gt; &gt;             Case Else
> &gt; &gt;                 If Left(prpName, 2) = &amp;quot;On&amp;quot;
Then
> &gt; &gt;                     IsEvent = True
> &gt; &gt;                 End If
> &gt; &gt;         End Select
> &gt; &gt; End Function
> &gt; &gt; ----
> &gt; &gt;
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From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Tue Oct 19 14:58:23 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:58:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AEE@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <01c201c4b615$fe83de80$6401a8c0@default>

> If you want to itemize the event procedures, you need to work with the
> module, not the form itself.  It's very ugly code.
> 
> Charlotte Foust


Ugly code? Should I defend myself? :)
En Garde, Charlotte Foust!

----

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http://www.mattysconsulting.com


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 19 16:00:01 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:00:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86651CB6@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Only if you really *like* working with methods like ProcOfLine! ;-}

Here's some I wrote years ago to print a list of event procedures in a
form module to the immediate window.  It tests for the existence of
control event procedures in the form and prints starting line of
existing procedures or MISSING for missing procedures.  Now THAT'S ugly!

Function TestEventProcs(ByVal strFrm As String)
  On Error Resume Next
  Dim frm As Form
  Dim mdl As Module
  Dim ctl As Control
  Dim prp As dao.Property
  Dim strSub As String
  Dim lngSLine As Long
  Dim lngSCol As Long
  Dim lngELine As Long
  Dim lngECol As Long
  Dim intPfx As Integer
  'make sure the form and its module are open
  If Not IsLoaded(strFrm) Then
    DoCmd.OpenForm strFrm, acDesign
  End If
  Set frm = Forms(strFrm)
  Set mdl = Modules("Form_" & strFrm)
  If Err <> 0 Then
    DoCmd.OpenModule "Form_" & strFrm
    Set mdl = Modules("Form_" & strFrm)
  End If
  'loop through the controls
  'looking for event procedures
  For Each ctl In frm.Controls
    For Each prp In ctl.Properties
      If prp.name Like "On*" Or _
        prp.name Like "After*" Or _
        prp.name Like "Before*" Then
        'store the length of the prefix
        If prp.name Like "On*" Then
          intPfx = 2
        ElseIf prp.name Like "After*" Then
          intPfx = 5
        ElseIf prp.name Like "Before*" Then
          intPfx = 6
        End If
          
        If prp.Value = "[Event Procedure]" Then
          'initialize the line and colum variables
          'for the proc find in the module
          lngSLine = 0
          lngSCol = 0
          lngELine = 0
          lngECol = 0
          strSub = ctl.name & "_" & Mid(prp.name, intPfx + 1)
          'look for the event procedure in the module
          If mdl.Find(strSub, lngSLine, lngSCol, lngELine, lngECol) Then
            'if event procedure found,
            'print its name and starting line
            Debug.Print strSub & "() Exists"
            Debug.Print , "Starts at line: " & lngSLine
          Else
            'otherwise, print name and MISSING
            Debug.Print strSub & "() Is MISSING"
          End If
        End If
      End If
    Next prp
  Next ctl
  Set prp = Nothing
  Set ctl = Nothing
  Set mdl = Nothing
  Set frm = Nothing
End Function

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??


> If you want to itemize the event procedures, you need to work with the

> module, not the form itself.  It's very ugly code.
> 
> Charlotte Foust


Ugly code? Should I defend myself? :)
En Garde, Charlotte Foust!

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 19 17:00:00 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:00:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86651CB6@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <009501c4b626$fb314860$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

I've got code to look through module code but what I wanted was to find all
occurrences of a function call, some of which are calls fired direct from an
event without using an Event proc. So Michael's code did the job perfectly.
Thanks anyway Charlotte. And you're right, the code to find stuff in a
module is pretty horrible. Can't remember where I got it from. Works though.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Charlotte Foust
> Sent: 19 October 2004 22:00
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Events Collection??
> 
> 
> Only if you really *like* working with methods like ProcOfLine! ;-}
> 
> Here's some I wrote years ago to print a list of event 
> procedures in a form module to the immediate window.  It 
> tests for the existence of control event procedures in the 
> form and prints starting line of existing procedures or 
> MISSING for missing procedures.  Now THAT'S ugly!
> 
> Function TestEventProcs(ByVal strFrm As String)
>   On Error Resume Next
>   Dim frm As Form
>   Dim mdl As Module
>   Dim ctl As Control
>   Dim prp As dao.Property
>   Dim strSub As String
>   Dim lngSLine As Long
>   Dim lngSCol As Long
>   Dim lngELine As Long
>   Dim lngECol As Long
>   Dim intPfx As Integer
>   'make sure the form and its module are open
>   If Not IsLoaded(strFrm) Then
>     DoCmd.OpenForm strFrm, acDesign
>   End If
>   Set frm = Forms(strFrm)
>   Set mdl = Modules("Form_" & strFrm)
>   If Err <> 0 Then
>     DoCmd.OpenModule "Form_" & strFrm
>     Set mdl = Modules("Form_" & strFrm)
>   End If
>   'loop through the controls
>   'looking for event procedures
>   For Each ctl In frm.Controls
>     For Each prp In ctl.Properties
>       If prp.name Like "On*" Or _
>         prp.name Like "After*" Or _
>         prp.name Like "Before*" Then
>         'store the length of the prefix
>         If prp.name Like "On*" Then
>           intPfx = 2
>         ElseIf prp.name Like "After*" Then
>           intPfx = 5
>         ElseIf prp.name Like "Before*" Then
>           intPfx = 6
>         End If
>           
>         If prp.Value = "[Event Procedure]" Then
>           'initialize the line and colum variables
>           'for the proc find in the module
>           lngSLine = 0
>           lngSCol = 0
>           lngELine = 0
>           lngECol = 0
>           strSub = ctl.name & "_" & Mid(prp.name, intPfx + 1)
>           'look for the event procedure in the module
>           If mdl.Find(strSub, lngSLine, lngSCol, lngELine, 
> lngECol) Then
>             'if event procedure found,
>             'print its name and starting line
>             Debug.Print strSub & "() Exists"
>             Debug.Print , "Starts at line: " & lngSLine
>           Else
>             'otherwise, print name and MISSING
>             Debug.Print strSub & "() Is MISSING"
>           End If
>         End If
>       End If
>     Next prp
>   Next ctl
>   Set prp = Nothing
>   Set ctl = Nothing
>   Set mdl = Nothing
>   Set frm = Nothing
> End Function
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael R Mattys [mailto:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:58 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??
> 
> 
> > If you want to itemize the event procedures, you need to 
> work with the
> 
> > module, not the form itself.  It's very ugly code.
> > 
> > Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> Ugly code? Should I defend myself? :)
> En Garde, Charlotte Foust!
> 
> ----
> 
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint 
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com  Wed Oct 20 10:15:12 2004
From: mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com (Mark Whittinghill)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:15:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: (Cross posted) VSS and VB6
Message-ID: <004d01c4b6b7$991b4c70$2601a8c0@Symphony.local>

Hi all,

   I have a VB6 project where I would like to make a copy of the project
files that is detached from Visual Source Safe, while leaving the original
project alone.  In Access, I can compact a copy of an mdb to do that, but
when I make a copy of my VB files, they seem to still affect my VSS project.
How can I do this?

Thanks,

Mark Whittinghill
Symphony Information Services
763-391-7400
mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com




From mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com  Wed Oct 20 10:34:29 2004
From: mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com (Mark Whittinghill)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:34:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Test - no reply
Message-ID: <000d01c4b6ba$4bcc9ed0$2601a8c0@Symphony.local>



Mark Whittinghill
Symphony Information Services
763-391-7400
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Oct 20 12:04:41 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:04:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Load Excel comments into database
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337197@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Does anyone have any code or ideas on how to strip comments from an Excel
spreadsheet and load them into an Access DB? I vaguely recall seeing some
code once upon a time but I can't recall where. TIA
Jim

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From chris at piasd.org  Wed Oct 20 12:14:48 2004
From: chris at piasd.org (Chris Kettenbach)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:14:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Load Excel comments into database
Message-ID: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF27855E2@server.domain.local>

Just get a reference to the spreadsheet and loop through the comments collections.  Then you run INSERT queries or ADO.AddNew or something and insert them in. Hopes this helps.
CK

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Subject: [AccessD] Load Excel comments into database


Does anyone have any code or ideas on how to strip comments from an Excel
spreadsheet and load them into an Access DB? I vaguely recall seeing some
code once upon a time but I can't recall where. TIA
Jim

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Wed Oct 20 12:22:44 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:22:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: (Cross posted) VSS and VB6
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB0865318D59@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

When you copy the project files to a new folder, omit the mssccprj.scc
and vssver.scc files.  
Make sure to right click on the files in Windows Explorer and uncheck
the read only flag. 


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Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:15 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] OT: (Cross posted) VSS and VB6


Hi all,

   I have a VB6 project where I would like to make a copy of the project
files that is detached from Visual Source Safe, while leaving the
original project alone.  In Access, I can compact a copy of an mdb to do
that, but when I make a copy of my VB files, they seem to still affect
my VSS project.
How can I do this?

Thanks,

Mark Whittinghill
Symphony Information Services
763-391-7400
mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com


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From mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com  Wed Oct 20 13:02:05 2004
From: mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com (Mark Whittinghill)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:02:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: (Cross posted) VSS and VB6
References: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB0865318D59@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <001401c4b6ce$ea0411f0$2601a8c0@Symphony.local>

Thanks, Brett.  I figured it was easy like that, but I didn't want to risk
messing things up as I experimented.

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> When you copy the project files to a new folder, omit the mssccprj.scc
> and vssver.scc files.
> Make sure to right click on the files in Windows Explorer and uncheck
> the read only flag.
>
>
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> Whittinghill
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> Subject: [AccessD] OT: (Cross posted) VSS and VB6
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>    I have a VB6 project where I would like to make a copy of the project
> files that is detached from Visual Source Safe, while leaving the
> original project alone.  In Access, I can compact a copy of an mdb to do
> that, but when I make a copy of my VB files, they seem to still affect
> my VSS project.
> How can I do this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Whittinghill
> Symphony Information Services
> 763-391-7400
> mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com
>
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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Wed Oct 20 15:50:18 2004
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:50:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
Message-ID: <002c01c4b6e6$68807980$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web application.

Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?

Thanks,
Barb Ryan

From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Oct 20 15:53:51 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:53:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Load Excel comments into database
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233719B@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Sounds like a plan to me. Thanks
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Kettenbach [mailto:chris at piasd.org]
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 12:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Load Excel comments into database


Just get a reference to the spreadsheet and loop through the comments
collections.  Then you run INSERT queries or ADO.AddNew or something and
insert them in. Hopes this helps.
CK

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:05 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Load Excel comments into database


Does anyone have any code or ideas on how to strip comments from an Excel
spreadsheet and load them into an Access DB? I vaguely recall seeing some
code once upon a time but I can't recall where. TIA
Jim

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 20 19:48:06 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:48:06 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
References: <002c01c4b6e6$68807980$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <41770746.2090304@shaw.ca>

If you are using essentially static data, MYSQL is fine, However if you 
are using
a lot of transactions go with SQL Server. The reason MYSQL 5.0 version
has stored procedures and yet to be implemented triggers but this 
version is still in Alpha.
Access goes fine to MySQL with ODBC and ADO or linked tables
The InnoDB storage engine has to be installed as well if you want to 
maintain referential integrity.

For more info and Tools.

How to import Excel, Access or XML data into MySQL database by using a 
MySQL Client Tool  Navicat?
http://www.stardeveloper.com/articles/display.html?article=2003101901&page=1

Toad? for MySQL  Preview Release
http://www.quest.com/ToadMySQL/index.asp

MySQL? Connector/ODBC
http://www.mysql.com/products/connector/odbc/

To be used with this
MySQL Manual | 22.1.11 MyODBC and Microsoft Access
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/MSAccess.html
MySQL Manual | 22.1.11.1 How to Set Up Microsoft Access to Work with 
MySQL using MyODBC?
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/MSAccess_Setup.html

Barbara Ryan wrote:

>Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web application.
>
>Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
>
>Thanks,
>Barb Ryan
>  
>

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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Oct 20 23:06:05 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:06:05 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Question for the Aussies (Or anyone who cares)
Message-ID: <200410210406.i9L46GXH026212@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hello all
A question for the Aussies or ate least those who have had a hand in
developing 
dbs that deal with the Aussie TAX system
 
I am after any dB that deals with GST, BAS, BAS Statements, preserved
amounts yadda yadda yadda 
 
Anyone got anything like it I can look at or they are willing to share or
even sell?
 
many thanks
 
See y'all
 
Darren
 


From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Wed Oct 20 10:36:10 2004
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:36:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] RE: Access 2002 hassles with DoCmd object
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188064331E9@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi

Yet again having problems with this.  I have a simple DDL query that works
fine when run normally, i.e. you double-click it from the database window.

However, I'm trying to run it programatically using the following statement:
DoCmd.OpenQuery "qryIndex".  I'm given the message warning me that I'm about
to run a query that could alter the DB etc., but then nothing happens.

The query is a simple CREATE INDEX statement that's creating an index on two
fields in a table.

Am I doing something fundamentally stupid here?  Yet again, any help greatly
appreciated!

Many thanks
Tom Bolton
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 21 03:06:17 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:06:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
In-Reply-To: <002c01c4b6e6$68807980$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
References: <002c01c4b6e6$68807980$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <263463650.20041021100617@cactus.dk>

Hi Barbara

> Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.
> They currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web application.

> Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?

I did a custom frontend which moves data between a MySQL database and
an Access database. It worked as expected using ODBC connection to
MySQL.
In addition to Marty's comments, have in mind that MySQL runs on
nearly everything - Windows, Linux, even Novell.

/gustav



From william.thompson1 at att.net  Thu Oct 21 04:23:46 2004
From: william.thompson1 at att.net (William Thompson)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:23:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD]  Is there a fast way to set up an .mdb with security
In-Reply-To: <263463650.20041021100617@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200410210923.i9L9NsL03096@databaseadvisors.com>

Is there a fast way to set up security for a workgroup, say by grabbing a
table from a master with aliases and an access level code, and grant access
to the .mdb en masse?

Most of the .mdb's that need security contain pass-through queries to SQL
server.

Any comments, suggestions appreciated.  I haven't had much experience doing
this particular task.

Bill Thompson




From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Oct 21 10:52:32 2004
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:52:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft ODBC for Oracle Password Change
Message-ID: <aea6c4950410210852344dce3d@mail.gmail.com>

I have been using the Microsoft ODBC for Oracle Driver version 2 build
2.573.6200.00 for a few years to access Oracle 8 and 9 databases on a
read only basis. All was well until the Oracle DBA's decided - or were
forced to due to Sarbaine/Oxley legislation - make the passwords
expire on a periodic basis on the Oracle user account that is used for
the ODBC connection. The ODBC driver I am currently using doesn't seem
to have the ability to allow the password to be changed, it just fires
an error message window when the expired password is encountered.

ODBC-call failed. Error ORA-28001: the password has expired 

The users could access the acount through SQL+ or another Oracle
terminal tool like SQL Navigator or TOAD but that would be considered
another security risk, so they don't want to provide any of those
tools to the users. They want the users themselves to be able to
change the passwords so that only they will know what the password is
for their account.

Anybody run into this or have any ideas? 

-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com


From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 21 11:37:45 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:37:45 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft ODBC for Oracle Password Change
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950410210852344dce3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aea6c4950410210852344dce3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <11334152208.20041021183745@cactus.dk>

Hi Gary

Couldn't you try to open a connection to the database?
Pick the connect string from one of the tables and add a leading
"ODBC;":

  strConnect = "ODBC;" & tdf.Connect

  Set wrk = DAO.CreateWorkspace("wrkVerify", vbNullString, vbNullString, dbUseODBC)
  ' Open ODBC connection for read/write using the connection string.
  Set cnn = wrk.OpenConnection("cnnVerify", dbDriverNoPrompt, False, strConnect)
  ' If this fails, username and/or password may be wrong.
  ' Prompt for these.
  Set cnn = wrk.OpenConnection("cnnVerify", dbDriverPrompt, False, strConnect)
  ' If this succeeds, save the connect string and use it to relink
  ' the tables.
  ' Update connection information.
  strConnect = cnn.Connect

This is DAO. You could probably do something similar with ADO.
You will, of course, need to add code to catch and handle errors.

/gustav


> I have been using the Microsoft ODBC for Oracle Driver version 2 build
> 2.573.6200.00 for a few years to access Oracle 8 and 9 databases on a
> read only basis. All was well until the Oracle DBA's decided - or were
> forced to due to Sarbaine/Oxley legislation - make the passwords
> expire on a periodic basis on the Oracle user account that is used for
> the ODBC connection. The ODBC driver I am currently using doesn't seem
> to have the ability to allow the password to be changed, it just fires
> an error message window when the expired password is encountered.

> ODBC-call failed. Error ORA-28001: the password has expired 

> The users could access the acount through SQL+ or another Oracle
> terminal tool like SQL Navigator or TOAD but that would be considered
> another security risk, so they don't want to provide any of those
> tools to the users. They want the users themselves to be able to
> change the passwords so that only they will know what the password is
> for their account.

> Anybody run into this or have any ideas? 

> -- 
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com



From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Oct 21 11:52:58 2004
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:52:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft ODBC for Oracle Password Change
In-Reply-To: <11334152208.20041021183745@cactus.dk>
References: <aea6c4950410210852344dce3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<11334152208.20041021183745@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <aea6c49504102109524fe52940@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Gustav. I will give that a try. 

Gary


On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:37:45 +0200, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Gary
> 
> Couldn't you try to open a connection to the database?
> Pick the connect string from one of the tables and add a leading
> "ODBC;":
> 
>  strConnect = "ODBC;" & tdf.Connect
> 
>  Set wrk = DAO.CreateWorkspace("wrkVerify", vbNullString, vbNullString, dbUseODBC)
>  ' Open ODBC connection for read/write using the connection string.
>  Set cnn = wrk.OpenConnection("cnnVerify", dbDriverNoPrompt, False, strConnect)
>  ' If this fails, username and/or password may be wrong.
>  ' Prompt for these.
>  Set cnn = wrk.OpenConnection("cnnVerify", dbDriverPrompt, False, strConnect)
>  ' If this succeeds, save the connect string and use it to relink
>  ' the tables.
>  ' Update connection information.
>  strConnect = cnn.Connect
> 
> This is DAO. You could probably do something similar with ADO.
> You will, of course, need to add code to catch and handle errors.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > I have been using the Microsoft ODBC for Oracle Driver version 2 build
> > 2.573.6200.00 for a few years to access Oracle 8 and 9 databases on a
> > read only basis. All was well until the Oracle DBA's decided - or were
> > forced to due to Sarbaine/Oxley legislation - make the passwords
> > expire on a periodic basis on the Oracle user account that is used for
> > the ODBC connection. The ODBC driver I am currently using doesn't seem
> > to have the ability to allow the password to be changed, it just fires
> > an error message window when the expired password is encountered.
> 
> > ODBC-call failed. Error ORA-28001: the password has expired
> 
> > The users could access the acount through SQL+ or another Oracle
> > terminal tool like SQL Navigator or TOAD but that would be considered
> > another security risk, so they don't want to provide any of those
> > tools to the users. They want the users themselves to be able to
> > change the passwords so that only they will know what the password is
> > for their account.
> 
> > Anybody run into this or have any ideas?
> 
> > --
> > Gary Kjos
> > garykjos at gmail.com
> 
> --
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From accma at sympatico.ca  Thu Oct 21 12:06:55 2004
From: accma at sympatico.ca (accma at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:06:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Form design question
Message-ID: <20041021170655.ZJXI27476.tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net@mxmta.bellnexxia.net>

Hi all,

I'm wondering if it's possible to have multiple sections in a forms like in a report.  I don't exactly know how to explane this so I'll demontrate it as best as I can.  On a form, I want to display all the products available.  That form would be the order entry form.  What I would like to do is put multiple column like this : product #, qt, price, product #, qt, price, product #, qt, price.  The second and third "product #, qt, price" would be the continuing of the first column.

Is this even possible and if so, how can I do this?

Tanks!

Annie



From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Oct 21 12:13:58 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:13:58 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Import specification - how to distribute?
Message-ID: <83210-2200410421171358849@christopherhawkins.com>

I'm building a feature for a client that requires me to come up with
an import specification for the files they'll be pulling into the
system.  Problem is, I have no idea how the import spec is stored,
and therefore no idea how to distribute it to my client when I
deliver the .mdb files.  

Is the import spec in the registry?  In an .ini file someplace?  Is
it in the .mdb itself?  I'm clueless.  Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp...

-Christopher-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Oct 21 12:38:49 2004
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:38:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Import specification - how to distribute?
In-Reply-To: <83210-2200410421171358849@christopherhawkins.com>
References: <83210-2200410421171358849@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c49504102110386cf7d8a1@mail.gmail.com>

It's in hidden tables in the mdb. Change the Option to display hidden
and system tables in a database that has at least one and you will see
the tables - there are two of them, on for the specification "header"
and another for the "item details".


On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:13:58 -0600, Christopher Hawkins
<clh at christopherhawkins.com> wrote:
> I'm building a feature for a client that requires me to come up with
> an import specification for the files they'll be pulling into the
> system.  Problem is, I have no idea how the import spec is stored,
> and therefore no idea how to distribute it to my client when I
> deliver the .mdb files.
> 
> Is the import spec in the registry?  In an .ini file someplace?  Is
> it in the .mdb itself?  I'm clueless.  Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp...
> 
> -Christopher-
> Respectfully,
> 
> Christopher Hawkins
> Software Developer
> (559) 687-7591
> http://www.christopherhawkins.com
> 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 21 12:45:46 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:45:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Form design question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B00@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It sounds like you want a continuous form.  Forms don't have column
layouts like reports, and I don't understand what you mean by the second
and third ... Would be the continuing of the first column.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: accma at sympatico.ca [mailto:accma at sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Form design question


Hi all,

I'm wondering if it's possible to have multiple sections in a forms like
in a report.  I don't exactly know how to explane this so I'll
demontrate it as best as I can.  On a form, I want to display all the
products available.  That form would be the order entry form.  What I
would like to do is put multiple column like this : product #, qt,
price, product #, qt, price, product #, qt, price.  The second and third
"product #, qt, price" would be the continuing of the first column.

Is this even possible and if so, how can I do this?

Tanks!

Annie

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 21 12:47:31 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:47:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Import specification - how to distribute?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B01@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Import specs are stored in the mdb file in two system tables
MSysIMEXColumns and MSysIMEXSpecs.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:14 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Import specification - how to distribute?


I'm building a feature for a client that requires me to come up with an
import specification for the files they'll be pulling into the system.
Problem is, I have no idea how the import spec is stored, and therefore
no idea how to distribute it to my client when I deliver the .mdb files.


Is the import spec in the registry?  In an .ini file someplace?  Is it
in the .mdb itself?  I'm clueless.  Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp...

-Christopher-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Oct 21 12:56:56 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:56:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Import specification - how to distribute?
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB80E@nprdex02.nns.com>

I had to do this type of documentation for a government project.  Since the
documentation already included screenshots of the user interface, I saw no
problem with including simple screenshots of the Import Specifications.


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:14 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Import specification - how to distribute?


I'm building a feature for a client that requires me to come up with
an import specification for the files they'll be pulling into the
system.  Problem is, I have no idea how the import spec is stored,
and therefore no idea how to distribute it to my client when I
deliver the .mdb files.  

Is the import spec in the registry?  In an .ini file someplace?  Is
it in the .mdb itself?  I'm clueless.  Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp...

-Christopher-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Oct 21 13:20:48 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:20:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] From Main form to Subform (XP)
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4384B42B@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I have a main form (frmMSBByTaskNo) and a subform (frmSortTaskNo).  I
have placed a combo-box drop down on the main form intending to navigate
to the subform and to the selected record in my little drop-down box.  I
am not getting an error, but sure am not getting any action.  This is my
code:

Private Sub cboGoToTaskNo_AfterUpdate()
     Forms!frmMSBByTaskNo!frmSortTaskNo.Form!txtTaskNumber.SetFocus
     DoCmd.FindRecord Forms("frmMSBbyTaskNo")!cboGoToTaskNo.Column(0), ,
True, , True, , True
End Sub

I put the little brown mark on the code and watched it go through locals
and did a check to make sure that cboGoToTaskNo.Column(0) was returning
the correct value and it is.  The subform is a continuous form.

Is there a better way to do this, i.e., one that works?  


From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Thu Oct 21 14:16:29 2004
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:16:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Empty and fill tables
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188064331E9@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <AMEDIDMAFJBGBGHMOEAECEPMEBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hello to the list,

I have an app that uses linked/attached tables thru ODBC.
When I created the original, I wrote a routine to empty an Access table with
info from the corresponding linked table. This because I felt that I wanted
to not impact the program which uses the table which I was linking to.
The non-Access linked tables are linked to the F End. The Access tables I
fill are in the back end.
This "empty and fill" operation always took awhile but recently jumped to 59
minutes.
Five tables -  one over 106,000 record.
A version 2K

Code - - -
EMPTY - -
Dim strSQL As String

DoCmd.Hourglass True
DoCmd.SetWarnings False
strSQL = "Delete * From tblTransactions"

DoCmd.RunSQL (strSQL)

FILL - -

Dim strSQL As String

DoCmd.Hourglass True
DoCmd.SetWarnings False
strSQL = "Insert into tblTransactions Select * From pMWTRN"

DoCmd.RunSQL (strSQL)


DoCmd.Hourglass False
DoCmd.SetWarnings True

My question:
Can I do this faster/better?


TIA,

Bob





From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Thu Oct 21 14:37:48 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:37:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Empty and fill tables
Message-ID: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F501FCE3F3@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>

Bob,

I don't know if my experience is relevant to your situation, but I too
have a process which imports records into a temp table.  I was loading
data from text files (10,000 to 60,000 records at a time) summarizing
the data, purging, and repeating.  I noticed similar performance
degradation over time, and traced it to db bloat.  My solution
(suggested by Gustav) was to shift the temp tables to a separate back
end, of which I made two copies - TempTables.mdb and
TempTablesTemplate.mdb.  Then at the end of each processing cycle I
included code to kill TempTables.mdb and copy TempTablesTemplate.mdb in
its place.  This ensures that the temp tables always start fresh for
each processing cycle and the bloat problem disappears.  Just make sure
that no processes or db objects have a lock on the tables in
TempTables.mdb when you run the kill and replace part.

Hope this helps

Don McGillivray

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Empty and fill tables


Hello to the list,

I have an app that uses linked/attached tables thru ODBC.
When I created the original, I wrote a routine to empty an Access table
with
info from the corresponding linked table. This because I felt that I
wanted
to not impact the program which uses the table which I was linking to.
The non-Access linked tables are linked to the F End. The Access tables
I
fill are in the back end.
This "empty and fill" operation always took awhile but recently jumped
to 59
minutes.
Five tables -  one over 106,000 record.
A version 2K

Code - - -
EMPTY - -
Dim strSQL As String

DoCmd.Hourglass True
DoCmd.SetWarnings False
strSQL = "Delete * From tblTransactions"

DoCmd.RunSQL (strSQL)

FILL - -

Dim strSQL As String

DoCmd.Hourglass True
DoCmd.SetWarnings False
strSQL = "Insert into tblTransactions Select * From pMWTRN"

DoCmd.RunSQL (strSQL)


DoCmd.Hourglass False
DoCmd.SetWarnings True

My question:
Can I do this faster/better?


TIA,

Bob



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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Thu Oct 21 14:52:31 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:52:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Go to a new record on a subform on a tab control
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738FC@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I have a main form (frmAllData) that contains a tab control.  So far there
are two tabs on the control - Peopleform and frmCallData.

PeopleForm and frmAllData are both bound to the same table (People).  I have
a combo box (cboFindPeople) on frmAllData that looks for someone on
PeopleForm.  

Then frmCallData contains all the calls associated with the person found.

If a person's name is input into cboFindPeople and that person is not in the
database, I want a yes/no message box to pop up and if the user decides to
add the person, I want to set peopleform on the tab control to add and then
I want to populate the FName, LName, and ContactPerson controls with the
information in cboFindPeople.

 

I think I can populate the controls if I can just get to the subform on the
tab control and set the form to add.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Oct 21 16:29:23 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:29:23 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?
Message-ID: <302020-2200410421212923655@christopherhawkins.com>

I am in deep dip.

Here's the situation:  I have a form that is throwing the following
error when I click any button, the close button included:

A problem occurred while Microsoft Office Access was communicating
with the OLE server or Active X control.

Now, I'm not doing anything with OLE servers or Active X controls. 
It's just a plain ol' form bound to a table.  But any buttons I click
bring up this error - the button code does not execute.

I don't even know where to start troubleshooting.  I've been Googling
the error, but am not finding much.  Has anyone seen this?
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Oct 21 16:31:21 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:31:21 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?
Message-ID: <213200-2200410421213121188@christopherhawkins.com>

I am in deep dip.

Here's the situation:  I have a form that is throwing the following
error when I click any button, the close button included:

A problem occurred while Microsoft Office Access was communicating
with the OLE server or Active X control.

Now, I'm not doing anything with OLE servers or Active X controls. 
It's just a plain ol' form bound to a table.  But any buttons I click
bring up this error - the button code does not execute.

I don't even know where to start troubleshooting.  I've been Googling
the error, but am not finding much.  Has anyone seen this?
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 21 17:11:42 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:11:42 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B06@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Yep, you're in trouble.  Open the MDB bypassing any autoexec and go into
the VB IDE and compile the project.  Access is losing track of it's own
controls and container objects.  You may have to create a new database
and import everything from the old one.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:29 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?


I am in deep dip.

Here's the situation:  I have a form that is throwing the following
error when I click any button, the close button included:

A problem occurred while Microsoft Office Access was communicating with
the OLE server or Active X control.

Now, I'm not doing anything with OLE servers or Active X controls. 
It's just a plain ol' form bound to a table.  But any buttons I click
bring up this error - the button code does not execute.

I don't even know where to start troubleshooting.  I've been Googling
the error, but am not finding much.  Has anyone seen this? Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From chizotz at mchsi.com  Thu Oct 21 17:22:44 2004
From: chizotz at mchsi.com (chizotz at mchsi.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:22:44 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] parameterized query misbehavior
Message-ID: <102120042222.1853.412@mchsi.com>

I don't use Access as much as I used to, and I think this may be my first 
attempt to use a parameterized query for a report since being upgraded to 
Access 2003 (from Access 97).

I have a report based on a parametertized query that asks the user to enter a 
Monday date and a Sunday date to select records between the two dates. I've 
done this a jillion times or so in the past with no problems.

When I set up the query, I kept getting the error "The Microsoft Jet Engine 
does not recognize [What Monday Date?] as a valid field or expression". I 
solved that by explicitly defining the parameters and the datatype. I would 
have done that anyway, but I've never had to do that just to get it work 
before. So now in query design, when I run the query it prompts me correctly 
and displays the data as expected.

Then I go to make my report and the wretched thing keeps prompting me over and 
over, while in design mode, for the damn parameters. I don't mean to sound 
like a prima donna, but I really can't work under these conditions :)

I've done this sort of thing many, many times in the past and I never gotten 
prompted for the parameters in design mode, and only once when running the 
report each time for testing. When I run the report, it runs through the 
prompting process twice before displaying the report.

What the heck is going on? If I'm doing something wrong I sure don't know what 
it is, and the MS help is, as usual, somewhat less than helpful.

Thanks for any response.

Ron



From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Oct 21 23:02:15 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:02:15 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?
Message-ID: <161680-22004105224215980@christopherhawkins.com>

I ended up deleting the offending form, decompiled, recompiled,
compact & repaired, and the built the form over from scratch.  Voila!
No more problems.

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:11:42 -0700

>Yep, you're in trouble.  Open the MDB bypassing any autoexec and go 
>into
>the VB IDE and compile the project.  Access is losing track of it's 
>own
>controls and container objects.  You may have to create a new 
>database
>and import everything from the old one.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
>Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:29 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?
>
>
>I am in deep dip.
>
>Here's the situation:  I have a form that is throwing the following
>error when I click any button, the close button included:
>
>A problem occurred while Microsoft Office Access was communicating 
>with
>the OLE server or Active X control.
>
>Now, I'm not doing anything with OLE servers or Active X controls. 
>It's just a plain ol' form bound to a table.  But any buttons I click
>bring up this error - the button code does not execute.
>
>I don't even know where to start troubleshooting.  I've been Googling
>the error, but am not finding much.  Has anyone seen this? 
>Respectfully,
>
>Christopher Hawkins
>Software Developer
>(559) 687-7591
>http://www.christopherhawkins.com
>
>
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 22 01:16:34 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 23:16:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
Message-ID: <20041022061634.57309.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From viner at EUnet.yu  Fri Oct 22 03:15:31 2004
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:15:31 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Samples
Message-ID: <001001c4b80f$6358ca00$0100a8c0@razvoj>

Great samples, in Polish

www.bratki.w.v1.pl

www.Access.vis.pl


From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 22 04:30:11 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:30:11 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Samples
In-Reply-To: <001001c4b80f$6358ca00$0100a8c0@razvoj>
References: <001001c4b80f$6358ca00$0100a8c0@razvoj>
Message-ID: <6810753703.20041022113011@cactus.dk>

Hi Ervin

Well, thanks, but except for "System Kolors" these are as close to
dark talk as I can imagine ...

/gustav


> Great samples, in Polish

> www.bratki.w.v1.pl

> www.Access.vis.pl



From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Fri Oct 22 04:49:48 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:49:48 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Samples
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF7311922EE@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Very attractive sites, Gustav. What a pity (for me) they're not in English.
Cheers paul 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: 22 October 2004 10:30
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Samples


Hi Ervin

Well, thanks, but except for "System Kolors" these are as close to
dark talk as I can imagine ...

/gustav


> Great samples, in Polish

> www.bratki.w.v1.pl

> www.Access.vis.pl

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Oct 22 07:06:11 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:06:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C7448691D@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Two ways that I know of
:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   dim colItem As Variant
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = cDO.TableNames
   For Each colItem in oColl
	debug.print colItem
   Next
   Set oColl = nothing
End Sub

or

Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   Dim i As Integer
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = cDO.TableNames

   For i = 1 To oColl.Count
	debug.print oColl.Item(i)
   Next i
   Set oColl = nothing
End Sub

HTH

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 2:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Oct 22 12:16:30 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:16:30 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Go to a new record on a subform on a tab control
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738FC@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
Message-ID: <003701c4b85a$dfcf51d0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Susan, not sure if this is what you're asking but you refer to a subform on
a tab control just the same as any other. So the syntax is something like
(if you're on main form):

Me!subformControl.Form. Etc

Where subformControl refers to the name of the control containing the
subform not the name of the subform itself (if you see what I mean). So, for
example:

Me!subformControl.Form.AllowAdditions=True

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
> Sent: 21 October 2004 20:53
> To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: [AccessD] Go to a new record on a subform on a tab control
> 
> 
> I have a main form (frmAllData) that contains a tab control.  
> So far there are two tabs on the control - Peopleform and frmCallData.
> 
> PeopleForm and frmAllData are both bound to the same table 
> (People).  I have a combo box (cboFindPeople) on frmAllData 
> that looks for someone on PeopleForm.  
> 
> Then frmCallData contains all the calls associated with the 
> person found.
> 
> If a person's name is input into cboFindPeople and that 
> person is not in the database, I want a yes/no message box to 
> pop up and if the user decides to add the person, I want to 
> set peopleform on the tab control to add and then I want to 
> populate the FName, LName, and ContactPerson controls with 
> the information in cboFindPeople.
> 
>  
> 
> I think I can populate the controls if I can just get to the 
> subform on the tab control and set the form to add.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
>  
> 
> Susan Klos
> 
> Senior Database Analyst
> 
> Evaluation and Reporting
> 
> Florida Department of Education
> 
> 850-245-0708 
> 
> sc 205-0708
> 
>  
> 
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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Fri Oct 22 14:24:46 2004
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:24:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
Message-ID: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts / suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan


**************************************************************************************************************************
Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO Technical or Quick CAD that 
are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development of a 
table architecture or data model?  

I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for 
drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier to use than 
wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword document. 

Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community uses. 


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 22 19:25:16 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:25:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
References: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <4179A4EC.9010403@shaw.ca>

You are probably looking for CASE (Computer Aided System Engineering) Tools.

I have used Enterprise Architect
http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/
 Good for reverse engineering an Access mdb just plug in the mdb or an 
ODBC connection to SQL and it will layout a data model or ER diagram.
Also lays out XSD schemas for tables and queries. Does UML modelling
Probably best in it's price range for diagramming $200. There is trial 
version.

Case Studio is good too. It generates SQL table scripts.
http://www.casestudio.com/enu/

Then you get into the $1000 price range with ER-Win and WinDev
and there are the $10,000 packages  Rose, System Architect, and ARTiSAN,
and probably even higher mainframe packages.Texas Instrument IEF

I saw one about 15 years ago that produced good Cobol Code but none 
since then.
So dont believe any code generation hype with Case Tools.

Barbara Ryan wrote:

>I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts / suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan
>
>
>**************************************************************************************************************************
>Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO Technical or Quick CAD that 
>are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development of a 
>table architecture or data model?  
>
>I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for 
>drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier to use than 
>wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword document. 
>
>Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community uses. 
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Fri Oct 22 20:14:28 2004
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:14:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
References: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
	<4179A4EC.9010403@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <007e01c4b89d$a5071ea0$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

Thanks, Marty....I'll pass on the info..............Barb



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] document development tools


> You are probably looking for CASE (Computer Aided System Engineering)
Tools.
>
> I have used Enterprise Architect
> http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/
>  Good for reverse engineering an Access mdb just plug in the mdb or an
> ODBC connection to SQL and it will layout a data model or ER diagram.
> Also lays out XSD schemas for tables and queries. Does UML modelling
> Probably best in it's price range for diagramming $200. There is trial
> version.
>
> Case Studio is good too. It generates SQL table scripts.
> http://www.casestudio.com/enu/
>
> Then you get into the $1000 price range with ER-Win and WinDev
> and there are the $10,000 packages  Rose, System Architect, and ARTiSAN,
> and probably even higher mainframe packages.Texas Instrument IEF
>
> I saw one about 15 years ago that produced good Cobol Code but none
> since then.
> So dont believe any code generation hype with Case Tools.
>
> Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
> >I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts /
suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan
> >
> >
>
>***************************************************************************
***********************************************
> >Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO
Technical or Quick CAD that
> >are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development
of a
> >table architecture or data model?
> >
> >I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for
> >drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier
to use than
> >wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword
document.
> >
> >Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community
uses.
> >
> >
>
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Oct 22 22:47:40 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:47:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
In-Reply-To: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
References: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <4179D45C.5010603@rogers.com>

Barbara Ryan wrote:

>I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts / suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan
>
>
>**************************************************************************************************************************
>Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO Technical or Quick CAD that 
>are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development of a 
>table architecture or data model?  
>
>I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for 
>drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier to use than 
>wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword document. 
>
>Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community uses. 
>  
>
If Visio is out of the price range, then try DeZign (www.datanamic.com, 
if memory serves -- if not, just google it). Excellent piece of work, 
IMO, and cheap.


From papparuff at comcast.net  Fri Oct 22 23:23:22 2004
From: papparuff at comcast.net (John Ruff)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:23:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
In-Reply-To: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <000001c4b8b8$1035efc0$6401a8c0@papparuff>

Dezign for Databases is an excellent tool for around $229.00.

http://www.datanamic.com/

John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) 

"Commit to the Lord whatever you do, 
                and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Ryan
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access List
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools


I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts /
suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan


****************************************************************************
**********************************************
Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO
Technical or Quick CAD that 
are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development of
a 
table architecture or data model?  

I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for 
drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier to
use than 
wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword
document. 

Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community uses.

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Oct 24 06:02:30 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:02:30 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
In-Reply-To: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
References: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <1138864386.20041024130230@cactus.dk>

Hi Barbara

Though targeted at MySQL, this - at zero cost - could be useful as
well:

  http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/

and - at little cost:

  http://www.thekompany.com/products/dataarchitect/

/gustav


> I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts / suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan


> **************************************************************************************************************************
> Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO Technical or Quick CAD that 
> are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development of a 
> table architecture or data model?  

> I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for 
> drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier to use than 
> wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword document. 

> Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community uses. 



From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Oct 24 18:58:38 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:58:38 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Question for the Aussies (Or anyone who cares)
References: <200410210406.i9L46GXH026212@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <003201c4ba25$61bb7d10$6401a8c0@user>

Darren - most of my clients use something like MYOB or Cashflow Manager for accounting for BAS, so I haven't needed to do it...

My own database does some calcs for me to produce my own BAS statements - it is fairly straightforward.

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darren DICK 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:06 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Question for the Aussies (Or anyone who cares)


  Hello all
  A question for the Aussies or ate least those who have had a hand in
  developing 
  dbs that deal with the Aussie TAX system
   
  I am after any dB that deals with GST, BAS, BAS Statements, preserved
  amounts yadda yadda yadda 
   
  Anyone got anything like it I can look at or they are willing to share or
  even sell?
   
  many thanks
   
  See y'all
   
  Darren
   
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Oct 24 19:01:09 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:01:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?
References: <213200-2200410421213121188@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <006601c4ba25$bbf8fd70$6401a8c0@user>

Christopher - I have definitely had that form error - and I think it related to an icon that I had copied an pasted into an image control. The message is very misleading...

HTH
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Christopher Hawkins 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 7:31 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?


  I am in deep dip.

  Here's the situation:  I have a form that is throwing the following
  error when I click any button, the close button included:

  A problem occurred while Microsoft Office Access was communicating
  with the OLE server or Active X control.

  Now, I'm not doing anything with OLE servers or Active X controls. 
  It's just a plain ol' form bound to a table.  But any buttons I click
  bring up this error - the button code does not execute.

  I don't even know where to start troubleshooting.  I've been Googling
  the error, but am not finding much.  Has anyone seen this?
  Respectfully,

  Christopher Hawkins
  Software Developer
  (559) 687-7591
  http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Oct 25 09:44:36 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:44:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371B0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I have a database that populates Excel budget spreadsheets from Access
tables and also opens Excel spreadsheets and extracts data. I am using
Office 2000 and DAO 3.6. The code runs flawlessly on my machine. On the
Citrix server, however, the code to extract data from spreadsheets runs fine
but the code to populate spreadsheets tells me that the interface does not
support this operation. References are okay and permissions seem ok since I
can save the spreadsheet (sans the data) through automation. Why automation
works in one direction but not the other is beyond me. Any suggestions? TIA
Jim Hale

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Oct 25 12:24:59 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:24:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: document development tools
In-Reply-To: <200410231700.i9NH0HL14717@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041025122258.03f0f520@pop3.highstream.net>

It really depends on the databases you want to be able to support.

Personally, I use ERWin.  And, unless you are buying a copy off of
EBay, the price is more like 3500 not 1000.

For me the key to using it is the number of databases it supports
because I work with a lot of different ones.

At 12:00 PM 10/23/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Ryan
>Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 12:25 PM
>To: Access List
>Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
>
>
>I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts /
>suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan
>
>
>****************************************************************************
>**********************************************
>Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO
>Technical or Quick CAD that
>are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development of
>a
>table architecture or data model?
>
>I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for
>drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier to
>use than
>wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword
>document.
>
>Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community uses.




From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Mon Oct 25 13:08:27 2004
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:08:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
In-Reply-To: <4179A4EC.9010403@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <008001c4babd$a0e1e2c0$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


I have used Artiso Visual Case:

http://www.visualcase.com/

It has good drawing facilities, and it has a native Access .mdb forward and
reverse engineering tool. You can also publish your data model to a
web-based viewer. It also will do UML for objects and object pattern design,
with .NET and Java support.

It sells for about $450 USD for a single user. There is a 30 day free trial.

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 7:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] document development tools


You are probably looking for CASE (Computer Aided System Engineering) Tools.

I have used Enterprise Architect
http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/
 Good for reverse engineering an Access mdb just plug in the mdb or an
ODBC connection to SQL and it will layout a data model or ER diagram.
Also lays out XSD schemas for tables and queries. Does UML modelling
Probably best in it's price range for diagramming $200. There is trial
version.

Case Studio is good too. It generates SQL table scripts.
http://www.casestudio.com/enu/

Then you get into the $1000 price range with ER-Win and WinDev
and there are the $10,000 packages  Rose, System Architect, and ARTiSAN,
and probably even higher mainframe packages.Texas Instrument IEF

I saw one about 15 years ago that produced good Cobol Code but none
since then.
So dont believe any code generation hype with Case Tools.

Barbara Ryan wrote:

>I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts /
suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan
>
>
>***************************************************************************
***********************************************
>Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO
Technical or Quick CAD that
>are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development of
a
>table architecture or data model?
>
>I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for
>drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier to
use than
>wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword
document.
>
>Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community
uses.
>
>

--
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada







From marcus at tsstech.com  Mon Oct 25 13:19:52 2004
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:19:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone know how to use DFS?
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D339E45@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

I'm trying to do a server consolidation and would like to remap unc
paths to a different server. I believe DFS can do this but am unsure how
this is done. Can anyone help?

Scott Marcus 



From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net  Mon Oct 25 13:48:16 2004
From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:48:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Memory Leak in DAO?
Message-ID: <00d901c4bac3$309c3870$6501a8c0@tbig1>

Does anyone see why the sub procedure below would result in an out of memory
condition when run about 100 times in a loop?


    Public Sub ExecuteActionQuery(strQueryName As String)

    Dim db As Database
    Dim qdf As QueryDef

    Set db = CurrentDb
    Set qdf = db.QueryDefs(strQueryName)
    qdf.Execute

    Set qdf = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing
    
    Exit Sub



TIA

Myke




From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Oct 25 14:20:36 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:20:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memory Leak in DAO?
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371B4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

try qdf.close before you set qdf=nothing
Jum Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Myke Myers [mailto:mmmtbig at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 1:48 PM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Memory Leak in DAO?


Does anyone see why the sub procedure below would result in an out of memory
condition when run about 100 times in a loop?


    Public Sub ExecuteActionQuery(strQueryName As String)

    Dim db As Database
    Dim qdf As QueryDef

    Set db = CurrentDb
    Set qdf = db.QueryDefs(strQueryName)
    qdf.Execute

    Set qdf = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing
    
    Exit Sub



TIA

Myke


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From greggs at msn.com  Mon Oct 25 15:58:51 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:58:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371B0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <BAY3-DAV28diixjnzi90000e256@hotmail.com>

Jim,

We've had similar problems.  Terminal Services uses the console to open office objects from code interactively.  We got around it by always having the console logged in (not pretty just works).  If you still have problems you might try adjusting your DCOMCNFG to allow interactive access and launch permissions.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hale, Jim<mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> 
  To: 'Accessd (E-mail)<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:44 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel


  I have a database that populates Excel budget spreadsheets from Access
  tables and also opens Excel spreadsheets and extracts data. I am using
  Office 2000 and DAO 3.6. The code runs flawlessly on my machine. On the
  Citrix server, however, the code to extract data from spreadsheets runs fine
  but the code to populate spreadsheets tells me that the interface does not
  support this operation. References are okay and permissions seem ok since I
  can save the spreadsheet (sans the data) through automation. Why automation
  works in one direction but not the other is beyond me. Any suggestions? TIA
  Jim Hale

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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Mon Oct 25 16:47:46 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:47:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A266@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

I have the following field in a query that makes a table.
Date: Format((CDate(Forms![frm Select Date]!selected_date)),"Short
Date")
When I open up the table I see a short date
When I export the table to a csv type file I get both the date and the
time.
How do I get only the date into the csv file?

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Oct 25 17:17:11 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:17:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D028@main2.marlow.com>

What I prefer to do is create a count and Info property for the class:

So if I have a SomeObject class, and I have a SomeObjects Class, I would
have something like this:

Dim SomeObjs as Collection
Property get SomeObjectCount() As Long
SomeObjectCount=SomeObjs.Count
End Get
Property Get SomeObjectInfo(intPos) As SomeObject
Set SomeObjectInfo=SomeObjs(val(intPos))
End Property

Lets you loop through the collection then.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate
that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Oct 25 17:24:09 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:24:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem
In-Reply-To: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A266@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>
Message-ID: <417E09A9.3776.7B00635@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 25 Oct 2004 at 16:47, Kaup, Chester A wrote:

> I have the following field in a query that makes a table.
> Date: Format((CDate(Forms![frm Select Date]!selected_date)),"Short
> Date")
> When I open up the table I see a short date
> When I export the table to a csv type file I get both the date and the
> time.
> How do I get only the date into the csv file?
> 

Is the field in the table defined as String or Date/Time? (I just tried 
this in A2K and in my case it did end up as a String)

How are you doing the Export?

Incudentally, it is not good practice to use "Date" as a field name since 
it is a reserved word with a specific meaining in Access. It can bite you 
in all sorts of ways.

-- 
Stuart




From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Oct 25 17:24:58 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:24:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371B8@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Thanks, I'll give it a go
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with
Excel


Jim,

We've had similar problems.  Terminal Services uses the console to open
office objects from code interactively.  We got around it by always having
the console logged in (not pretty just works).  If you still have problems
you might try adjusting your DCOMCNFG to allow interactive access and launch
permissions.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hale, Jim<mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> 
  To: 'Accessd (E-mail)<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:44 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel


  I have a database that populates Excel budget spreadsheets from Access
  tables and also opens Excel spreadsheets and extracts data. I am using
  Office 2000 and DAO 3.6. The code runs flawlessly on my machine. On the
  Citrix server, however, the code to extract data from spreadsheets runs
fine
  but the code to populate spreadsheets tells me that the interface does not
  support this operation. References are okay and permissions seem ok since
I
  can save the spreadsheet (sans the data) through automation. Why
automation
  works in one direction but not the other is beyond me. Any suggestions?
TIA
  Jim Hale

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Oct 25 19:39:04 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:39:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem
In-Reply-To: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A266@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEHACHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Chester:

The real date in the table is stored Microsoft date format: i.e.
351235.12343. Its' display format can be very different from the real date
and sometimes Access assists by assigning it's own date format
recommendation when certain function are being used. I have found it is
sometimes better to create a field, format the field and then export the
contents from/through a query rather than directly from a table.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
A
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 2:48 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem


I have the following field in a query that makes a table.
Date: Format((CDate(Forms![frm Select Date]!selected_date)),"Short
Date")
When I open up the table I see a short date
When I export the table to a csv type file I get both the date and the
time.
How do I get only the date into the csv file?

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415
Outside 432-687-7415

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number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.



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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 26 03:46:17 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:46:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; Export to flatfile
Message-ID: <20041026084617.97636.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I've got 2 questions.
First question:
I need to create a table using a UNION query. How can I do this? 
 
Second question:
I need to create a TAB-delimited flatfile using the table created above. How do I do that?
 
Tia!!
 
VS
PS I'm using A2K
 

		
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Oct 26 04:26:41 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:26:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; Export to flatfile
In-Reply-To: <20041026084617.97636.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <417EA4F1.31933.A0E9003@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 26 Oct 2004 at 1:46, S D wrote:

> Hi group,
>  
> I've got 2 questions.
> First question:
> I need to create a table using a UNION query. How can I do this? 
>  

Something like:

SELECT  INTO newtable
FROM
(Select * from table1
UNION
Select * from table2);

> Second question:
> I need to create a TAB-delimited flatfile using the table created above. How do I do that?
>  

I prefer to build my own text files using VBA. In DAO, something like:

Function BuildCSV() as Long
Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset("NewTable")
Open "myFile.CSV" for Output As #1
While not rs.eof
    Print #1, rs(0) & chr$(9) & rs(1) & chr$(9) & rs(2).....
    rs.MoveNext
Wend
rs.Close
Close #1
End Function

You can mess around with the "Print #" line to format your output exactly 
the way you want it.



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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct 26 04:40:56 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:40:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; Export to flatfile
In-Reply-To: <20041026084617.97636.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041026084617.97636.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1210331495.20041026114056@cactus.dk>

Hi S

> First question:
> I need to create a table using a UNION query. How can I do this?

Create a union query, then use that as source for the append/create
query.
 
> Second question:
> I need to create a TAB-delimited flatfile using the table created above. How do I do that?
 
Create a query something like this:

  SELECT
    Field1,
    Field2
  INTO
    [Text;Database=C:\Windows\Temp].[YourFile.txt]
  FROM
    YourTable;

Before running this, create (or modify) the file schema.ini in the
destination folder:

[YourFile.txt]
ColNameHeader=False
CharacterSet=ANSI
Format=TabDelimited
Col1=Field1 Char Width 50
Col2=Field2 Char Width 50

The output file (YourFile.txt) must not exist before you run the
query.
As you can see, you may not need the temp table at all; use the union
query as source when creating the text file.

For more into on schema.ini file syntax, look here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odbc/htm/odbcjetschema_ini_file.asp

/gustav



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Oct 26 07:01:50 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:01:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C7448695C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Drew,

You're making the assumption that the collection has already been
populated when you add a Count method to the class.  In the attached
code it's being filled when TableNames is called so a call to a count
method could be inaccurate (although a return of 0 or an error would
tell you the collection hadn't been filled).  

Also, why bother writing this method when the returned collection
already has a built in count that can be called from any variable
assigned to the class method?

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection

What I prefer to do is create a count and Info property for the class:

So if I have a SomeObject class, and I have a SomeObjects Class, I would
have something like this:

Dim SomeObjs as Collection
Property get SomeObjectCount() As Long
SomeObjectCount=SomeObjs.Count
End Get
Property Get SomeObjectInfo(intPos) As SomeObject Set
SomeObjectInfo=SomeObjs(val(intPos))
End Property

Lets you loop through the collection then.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate
that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Tue Oct 26 07:19:37 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:19:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A267@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

The field in the table is text. I tried date/time and both the date and
the time displayed in the table. The export is dome by the transfertext
method. The reason I used the word date is because the csv file
generated is loaded into another program where the field names need to
match and the field name in that program is date. I solved the problem
by making the date field nine characters. Maybe not the best way but it
chops of the time part of date/time and shows only the date in the csv
file.

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 5:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem


On 25 Oct 2004 at 16:47, Kaup, Chester A wrote:

> I have the following field in a query that makes a table.
> Date: Format((CDate(Forms![frm Select Date]!selected_date)),"Short
> Date")
> When I open up the table I see a short date
> When I export the table to a csv type file I get both the date and the

> time. How do I get only the date into the csv file?
> 

Is the field in the table defined as String or Date/Time? (I just tried 
this in A2K and in my case it did end up as a String)

How are you doing the Export?

Incudentally, it is not good practice to use "Date" as a field name
since 
it is a reserved word with a specific meaining in Access. It can bite
you 
in all sorts of ways.

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From pharold at proftesting.com  Tue Oct 26 09:04:14 2004
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:04:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem
In-Reply-To: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A267@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>
Message-ID: <005501c4bb64$ace18100$082da8c0@D58BT131>

What happens when you have MM/DD/YYYY?  That's 10 char.  The catch is when
it's M/M/YYYY because the time starts at position 10 and you pick up an
extra digit.  

Any dates over 10/9, 11/9 and 12/9 loose the last char of the year when you
use a size of 9.

If you export with code then you could search the field for a space and pick
up just the date portion of the field.

Perry Harold

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester A
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem


The field in the table is text. I tried date/time and both the date and the
time displayed in the table. The export is dome by the transfertext method.
The reason I used the word date is because the csv file generated is loaded
into another program where the field names need to match and the field name
in that program is date. I solved the problem by making the date field nine
characters. Maybe not the best way but it chops of the time part of
date/time and shows only the date in the csv file.

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 5:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem


On 25 Oct 2004 at 16:47, Kaup, Chester A wrote:

> I have the following field in a query that makes a table.
> Date: Format((CDate(Forms![frm Select Date]!selected_date)),"Short
> Date")
> When I open up the table I see a short date
> When I export the table to a csv type file I get both the date and the

> time. How do I get only the date into the csv file?
> 

Is the field in the table defined as String or Date/Time? (I just tried 
this in A2K and in my case it did end up as a String)

How are you doing the Export?

Incudentally, it is not good practice to use "Date" as a field name since 
it is a reserved word with a specific meaining in Access. It can bite you 
in all sorts of ways.

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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 26 09:07:36 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:07:36 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BCA@starfleet.unknown.local>

Guys,

I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this before but for the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last occurrence of "\" within a file path string. For example if the path was C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return the Hello.doc portion and to do that obviously I need to know what position the last backslash is.

Any ideas?

Vlad


From CMackin at quiznos.com  Tue Oct 26 09:10:31 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:10:31 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F066@snowmass.quiznos.net>

InstrRev("C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc", "\")

will get it for you.

-Chris Mackin

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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:08 AM
To: Access Group (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string


Guys,

I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this before but for the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last occurrence of "\" within a file path string. For example if the path was C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return the Hello.doc portion and to do that obviously I need to know what position the last backslash is.

Any ideas?

Vlad
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From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Tue Oct 26 09:16:56 2004
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:16:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188064331FA@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Vlad

InstrRev function - this counts the first occurrence of a string but
'backwards', i.e. starting at the end...

HTH, Cheers
Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: 26 October 2004 15:08
To: Access Group (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string

Guys,

I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this before but for
the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last occurrence of "\"
within a file path string. For example if the path was
C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return the Hello.doc
portion and to do that obviously I need to know what position the last
backslash is.

Any ideas?

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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 26 09:27:42 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:27:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
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Thanx muchly
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InstrRev("C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc", "\")

will get it for you.

-Chris Mackin

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Guys,

I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this before but for the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last occurrence of "\" within a file path string. For example if the path was C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return the Hello.doc portion and to do that obviously I need to know what position the last backslash is.

Any ideas?

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Oct 26 09:43:22 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:43:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel
	*SOLVED"
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371BD@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Gregg,
Logging into the console worked! Many thanks!
Jim Hale

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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with
Excel


Jim,

We've had similar problems.  Terminal Services uses the console to open
office objects from code interactively.  We got around it by always having
the console logged in (not pretty just works).  If you still have problems
you might try adjusting your DCOMCNFG to allow interactive access and launch
permissions.
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  Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel


  I have a database that populates Excel budget spreadsheets from Access
  tables and also opens Excel spreadsheets and extracts data. I am using
  Office 2000 and DAO 3.6. The code runs flawlessly on my machine. On the
  Citrix server, however, the code to extract data from spreadsheets runs
fine
  but the code to populate spreadsheets tells me that the interface does not
  support this operation. References are okay and permissions seem ok since
I
  can save the spreadsheet (sans the data) through automation. Why
automation
  works in one direction but not the other is beyond me. Any suggestions?
TIA
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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Tue Oct 26 09:48:52 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:48:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A268@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

I am able to get away with it because day field is always 1. I agree
that code would be the best way to do the export. With any luck this
process will go away in a month or two so don't want to spend much time
on it.

Chester Kaup
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Perry Harold
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem


What happens when you have MM/DD/YYYY?  That's 10 char.  The catch is
when it's M/M/YYYY because the time starts at position 10 and you pick
up an extra digit.  

Any dates over 10/9, 11/9 and 12/9 loose the last char of the year when
you use a size of 9.

If you export with code then you could search the field for a space and
pick up just the date portion of the field.

Perry Harold

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A
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem


The field in the table is text. I tried date/time and both the date and
the time displayed in the table. The export is dome by the transfertext
method. The reason I used the word date is because the csv file
generated is loaded into another program where the field names need to
match and the field name in that program is date. I solved the problem
by making the date field nine characters. Maybe not the best way but it
chops of the time part of date/time and shows only the date in the csv
file.

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IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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McLachlan
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 5:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem


On 25 Oct 2004 at 16:47, Kaup, Chester A wrote:

> I have the following field in a query that makes a table.
> Date: Format((CDate(Forms![frm Select Date]!selected_date)),"Short
> Date")
> When I open up the table I see a short date
> When I export the table to a csv type file I get both the date and the

> time. How do I get only the date into the csv file?
> 

Is the field in the table defined as String or Date/Time? (I just tried 
this in A2K and in my case it did end up as a String)

How are you doing the Export?

Incudentally, it is not good practice to use "Date" as a field name
since 
it is a reserved word with a specific meaining in Access. It can bite
you 
in all sorts of ways.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 26 09:58:11 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:58:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B13@infoserver01.infostat.local>

InStrRev

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:08 AM
To: Access Group (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string


Guys,

I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this before but
for the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last occurrence of
"\" within a file path string. For example if the path was
C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return the Hello.doc
portion and to do that obviously I need to know what position the last
backslash is.

Any ideas?

Vlad
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From william.thompson1 at att.net  Tue Oct 26 10:00:50 2004
From: william.thompson1 at att.net (William Thompson)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:00:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] why an .mdb won't connect the same way as secure pivot?
In-Reply-To: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F066@snowmass.quiznos.net>
Message-ID: <200410261500.i9QF0sL29437@databaseadvisors.com>


Kind of a touchy problem.  A user actually needs a flat file representation
in an .mdb of data that underlies a pivot table.  The .mdb might have to be
a break from tradition and actually be secure at the file level.

We have a pivot table that is sourced to a (row level) secure stored
procedure in SQL Server.  Funny thing is, the .mdb has trouble drawing data
from the same stored procedure.  It seems Excel has a leg up on secure
connections, or stored procedure calls, or something.  I presume ODBC since
that is the driver in the pivot's connection string.

The Pivot's connection string contains a 'call' to the stored procedure, and
though it was a trusted connection - I'm not sure why - but there was also a
user name in the string.  (The user is no longer with the group by the way).
My fear is that it was set up with a clear text password then had another
call added in by the magic of Excel.

Makes it difficult to set up an .mdb when it doesn't grab a connection that
a pivot table is already grabbing.  Trusted connections do not work.

We can't change anything on the back-end.  Any ideas?  It seems to be
looking like a situation where Excel is able to connect in a more secure way
(and we may have to ditch the .mdb idea).  It seemed at the time a logical
thing, using Access to furnish a flat file that could be stored off
securely.  I've tried pass-through queries, ADO connections, to no avail.

Any suggestions?

Bill Thompson



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 26 10:01:51 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:01:51 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B14@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The class Count method would *use* the Count method of the underlying
collection.  An empty collection should return a zero count.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 5:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Drew,

You're making the assumption that the collection has already been
populated when you add a Count method to the class.  In the attached
code it's being filled when TableNames is called so a call to a count
method could be inaccurate (although a return of 0 or an error would
tell you the collection hadn't been filled).  

Also, why bother writing this method when the returned collection
already has a built in count that can be called from any variable
assigned to the class method?

Jim DeMarco

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DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection

What I prefer to do is create a count and Info property for the class:

So if I have a SomeObject class, and I have a SomeObjects Class, I would
have something like this:

Dim SomeObjs as Collection
Property get SomeObjectCount() As Long SomeObjectCount=SomeObjs.Count
End Get Property Get SomeObjectInfo(intPos) As SomeObject Set
SomeObjectInfo=SomeObjs(val(intPos))
End Property

Lets you loop through the collection then.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate
that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From vchas at artronix-solutions.com  Tue Oct 26 10:44:43 2004
From: vchas at artronix-solutions.com (Vincent Pusateri)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:44:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BCA@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <BC4B05623B34133AD7988FCE2936C.MAI@freightware.net>

Here you go

Public Function GetEndString(vntString As Variant, strSymbol As String) As
String

    Dim intStartPosition As Integer
    Dim intSymbolPosition As Integer
    
    ' Loop through the line, looking for the last occurrence
    ' of the symbol.  Once the last symbol as been found, pass
    ' back the string to the right of it.
    
    intStartPosition = 1
    
    Do
        intSymbolPosition = InStr(intStartPosition, vntString, strSymbol)
        If intSymbolPosition > 0 Then
            intStartPosition = intSymbolPosition + 1
        End If
    Loop Until intSymbolPosition = 0
    
    GetEndString = Trim$(Mid(vntString, intStartPosition))
   
End Function 

Vinnie Chas

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:08 AM
To: Access Group (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string

Guys,

I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this before but for
the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last occurrence of "\"
within a file path string. For example if the path was
C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return the Hello.doc
portion and to do that obviously I need to know what position the last
backslash is.

Any ideas?

Vlad
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Oct 26 11:24:11 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:24:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Memory Leak in DAO?
References: <00d901c4bac3$309c3870$6501a8c0@tbig1>
Message-ID: <417E7A2B.2090708@shaw.ca>

Check your version of Jet, this was a problem corrected with Access97 SR-2
I think there were others
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;191743

Myke Myers wrote:

>Does anyone see why the sub procedure below would result in an out of memory
>condition when run about 100 times in a loop?
>
>
>    Public Sub ExecuteActionQuery(strQueryName As String)
>
>    Dim db As Database
>    Dim qdf As QueryDef
>
>    Set db = CurrentDb
>    Set qdf = db.QueryDefs(strQueryName)
>    qdf.Execute
>
>    Set qdf = Nothing
>    Set db = Nothing
>    
>    Exit Sub
>
>
>
>TIA
>
>Myke
>
>
>  
>

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Canada





From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Oct 26 12:31:50 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:31:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F0471AAFD@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Or, starting at the right end of the string (as that's where we are
expecting to see the data)

Function InStrR(varText As Variant, strFind As String) As Integer
   Dim n As Integer, nStart As Integer
    n = Len(strFind)
    If IsNull(varText) Or n = 0 Then
        InStrR = 0
        Exit Function
    End If
    nStart = Len(varText) - n
    While nStart > 0
        n = InStr(nStart, varText, strFind)
        If n = 0 Then
            nStart = nStart - 1
        Else
            InStrR = n
            Exit Function
        End If
    Wend
    InStrR = 0
End Function


Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Pusateri
> Sent:	Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:45 AM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
> 
> Here you go
> 
> Public Function GetEndString(vntString As Variant, strSymbol As String) As
> String
> 
>     Dim intStartPosition As Integer
>     Dim intSymbolPosition As Integer
>     
>     ' Loop through the line, looking for the last occurrence
>     ' of the symbol.  Once the last symbol as been found, pass
>     ' back the string to the right of it.
>     
>     intStartPosition = 1
>     
>     Do
>         intSymbolPosition = InStr(intStartPosition, vntString, strSymbol)
>         If intSymbolPosition > 0 Then
>             intStartPosition = intSymbolPosition + 1
>         End If
>     Loop Until intSymbolPosition = 0
>     
>     GetEndString = Trim$(Mid(vntString, intStartPosition))
>    
> End Function 
> 
> Vinnie Chas
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of ACTEBS
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:08 AM
> To: Access Group (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this before but for
> the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last occurrence of "\"
> within a file path string. For example if the path was
> C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return the Hello.doc
> portion and to do that obviously I need to know what position the last
> backslash is.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Vlad
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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Tue Oct 26 12:54:59 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:54:59 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29088927@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

Another mousetrap - use InStrRev, as in (fragment)

  strPath = "C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc"
  retVal =  Mid(strPath,InStrRev(strPath,"\")+1)

You'd still have to do checks for inappropriate values in strPath

Stephen Bond



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 27 October 2004 6:32 a.m.
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
>
>
> Or, starting at the right end of the string (as that's where we are
> expecting to see the data)
>
> Function InStrR(varText As Variant, strFind As String) As Integer
>    Dim n As Integer, nStart As Integer
>     n = Len(strFind)
>     If IsNull(varText) Or n = 0 Then
>         InStrR = 0
>         Exit Function
>     End If
>     nStart = Len(varText) - n
>     While nStart > 0
>         n = InStr(nStart, varText, strFind)
>         If n = 0 Then
>             nStart = nStart - 1
>         Else
>             InStrR = n
>             Exit Function
>         End If
>     Wend
>     InStrR = 0
> End Function
>
>
> Lambert
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Vincent Pusateri
> > Sent:       Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:45 AM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject:    RE: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
> >
> > Here you go
> >
> > Public Function GetEndString(vntString As Variant,
> strSymbol As String) As
> > String
> >
> >     Dim intStartPosition As Integer
> >     Dim intSymbolPosition As Integer
> >    
> >     ' Loop through the line, looking for the last occurrence
> >     ' of the symbol.  Once the last symbol as been found, pass
> >     ' back the string to the right of it.
> >    
> >     intStartPosition = 1
> >    
> >     Do
> >         intSymbolPosition = InStr(intStartPosition,
> vntString, strSymbol)
> >         If intSymbolPosition > 0 Then
> >             intStartPosition = intSymbolPosition + 1
> >         End If
> >     Loop Until intSymbolPosition = 0
> >    
> >     GetEndString = Trim$(Mid(vntString, intStartPosition))
> >   
> > End Function
> >
> > Vinnie Chas
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of ACTEBS
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:08 AM
> > To: Access Group (E-mail)
> > Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this
> before but for
> > the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last
> occurrence of "\"
> > within a file path string. For example if the path was
> > C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return
> the Hello.doc
> > portion and to do that obviously I need to know what
> position the last
> > backslash is.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Vlad
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Oct 26 13:21:53 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:21:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D02C@main2.marlow.com>

True, you can just return the collection.  That is certainly an option, I'm
just used to writing activeX .dll's, where I am going to use them in ASP.
In that situation, I can't 'return' a collection, but I can return items in
a collection.  So it becomes a wrapper around the collection.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Drew,

You're making the assumption that the collection has already been
populated when you add a Count method to the class.  In the attached
code it's being filled when TableNames is called so a call to a count
method could be inaccurate (although a return of 0 or an error would
tell you the collection hadn't been filled).  

Also, why bother writing this method when the returned collection
already has a built in count that can be called from any variable
assigned to the class method?

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection

What I prefer to do is create a count and Info property for the class:

So if I have a SomeObject class, and I have a SomeObjects Class, I would
have something like this:

Dim SomeObjs as Collection
Property get SomeObjectCount() As Long
SomeObjectCount=SomeObjs.Count
End Get
Property Get SomeObjectInfo(intPos) As SomeObject Set
SomeObjectInfo=SomeObjs(val(intPos))
End Property

Lets you loop through the collection then.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate
that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Oct 26 14:02:04 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:02:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Export to CSV file problem
In-Reply-To: <200410261506.i9QF62L01657@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041026135115.013d7b18@pop3.highstream.net>

This is really simple guys/gals:

Parse the date out and rebuild it in a query, add a field:

Date: cstr(datepart("m",YourDateField) & "/" &
       datepart("d",YourDateField) & "/" &
       datepart("yyyy",YourDateField))

Like someone else pointed out, you did not solve your problem,
you only put a Band-Aid on it.

Naming things in your database poorly because someone else did
in theirs is just an excuse.  As shown above, you can name a
column in a query anything you want and yours still be named
properly. Then you can use your transfertext on the query.  And,
since I used the cstr function, it really is a string.

Robert

At 10:06 AM 10/26/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:19:37 -0500
>From: "Kaup, Chester A" <kaupca at chevrontexaco.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
> 
><1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A267 at bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>The field in the table is text. I tried date/time and both the date and
>the time displayed in the table. The export is dome by the transfertext
>method. The reason I used the word date is because the csv file
>generated is loaded into another program where the field names need to
>match and the field name in that program is date. I solved the problem
>by making the date field nine characters. Maybe not the best way but it
>chops of the time part of date/time and shows only the date in the csv
>file.
>
>Chester Kaup
>Information Management Technician
>IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
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From greggs at msn.com  Tue Oct 26 14:58:11 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:58:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with
	Excel*SOLVED"
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371BD@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <BAY3-DAV10g8VMb5UWg000034f2@hotmail.com>

Cool!
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hale, Jim<mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:43 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel*SOLVED"


  Gregg,
  Logging into the console worked! Many thanks!
  Jim Hale

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com]
  Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:59 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with
  Excel


  Jim,

  We've had similar problems.  Terminal Services uses the console to open
  office objects from code interactively.  We got around it by always having
  the console logged in (not pretty just works).  If you still have problems
  you might try adjusting your DCOMCNFG to allow interactive access and launch
  permissions.
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    I have a database that populates Excel budget spreadsheets from Access
    tables and also opens Excel spreadsheets and extracts data. I am using
    Office 2000 and DAO 3.6. The code runs flawlessly on my machine. On the
    Citrix server, however, the code to extract data from spreadsheets runs
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    support this operation. References are okay and permissions seem ok since
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Tue Oct 26 15:05:00 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:05:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D02C@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c4bb97$16157fa0$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

All,

Having seem all the traffic on collections I decided to use one in a utility
I am building.  I get an error message of "Expected user defined type, not
project." on the code line that instantiates the collection: "Private
colListings As New collection".

Any idea what is causing this?

Doug

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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


True, you can just return the collection.  That is certainly an option, I'm
just used to writing activeX .dll's, where I am going to use them in ASP. In
that situation, I can't 'return' a collection, but I can return items in a
collection.  So it becomes a wrapper around the collection.

Drew

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From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Drew,

You're making the assumption that the collection has already been populated
when you add a Count method to the class.  In the attached code it's being
filled when TableNames is called so a call to a count method could be
inaccurate (although a return of 0 or an error would tell you the collection
hadn't been filled).  

Also, why bother writing this method when the returned collection already
has a built in count that can be called from any variable assigned to the
class method?

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection

What I prefer to do is create a count and Info property for the class:

So if I have a SomeObject class, and I have a SomeObjects Class, I would
have something like this:

Dim SomeObjs as Collection
Property get SomeObjectCount() As Long SomeObjectCount=SomeObjs.Count End
Get Property Get SomeObjectInfo(intPos) As SomeObject Set
SomeObjectInfo=SomeObjs(val(intPos))
End Property

Lets you loop through the collection then.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate
that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Tue Oct 26 15:29:07 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:29:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Field not saving to table
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB0B0492@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

I have a data entry form with three fields; record date, well number and
volume. The record date field is automatically filled from a date on
another form. Values in the other two fields are entered by the user.
The form has a data source of a table. The well number and volume fields
save fine to the table. The record date field does not save to the
table. What am I doing wrong or need to do to get the record date to
save to the table? Thanks.

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Tue Oct 26 15:47:35 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:47:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Field not saving to table
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A271@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

Problem solved!
Set data source to table
Set default value to other form.

Chester Kaup
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A
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 3:29 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Field not saving to table


I have a data entry form with three fields; record date, well number and
volume. The record date field is automatically filled from a date on
another form. Values in the other two fields are entered by the user.
The form has a data source of a table. The well number and volume fields
save fine to the table. The record date field does not save to the
table. What am I doing wrong or need to do to get the record date to
save to the table? Thanks.

Chester Kaup
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Tue Oct 26 18:37:16 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:37:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4bb97$16157fa0$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>
Message-ID: <000001c4bbb4$bd633780$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Never mind, something was hosed in the db, I created a new one and it works
fine now.

Doug

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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


All,

Having seem all the traffic on collections I decided to use one in a utility
I am building.  I get an error message of "Expected user defined type, not
project." on the code line that instantiates the collection: "Private
colListings As New collection".

Any idea what is causing this?

Doug

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


True, you can just return the collection.  That is certainly an option, I'm
just used to writing activeX .dll's, where I am going to use them in ASP. In
that situation, I can't 'return' a collection, but I can return items in a
collection.  So it becomes a wrapper around the collection.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Drew,

You're making the assumption that the collection has already been populated
when you add a Count method to the class.  In the attached code it's being
filled when TableNames is called so a call to a count method could be
inaccurate (although a return of 0 or an error would tell you the collection
hadn't been filled).  

Also, why bother writing this method when the returned collection already
has a built in count that can be called from any variable assigned to the
class method?

Jim DeMarco

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection

What I prefer to do is create a count and Info property for the class:

So if I have a SomeObject class, and I have a SomeObjects Class, I would
have something like this:

Dim SomeObjs as Collection
Property get SomeObjectCount() As Long SomeObjectCount=SomeObjs.Count End
Get Property Get SomeObjectInfo(intPos) As SomeObject Set
SomeObjectInfo=SomeObjs(val(intPos))
End Property

Lets you loop through the collection then.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate
that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 27 01:43:18 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:43:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; Export to flatfile
In-Reply-To: <1210331495.20041026114056@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041027064318.87527.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Gustav,
 
thnx for you're reply. I found out that the app I'm modifying is using the following command to export to textfiles and I do not want to introduce a new way of exporting for 1 extra export:

DoCmd.TransferText [transfertype][, specificationname], tablename, filename[, hasfieldnames][, HTMLtablename][, codepage]

Now I have 2 problems.
Problem 1: The help file says that when you use a delimited export you do not need a specificationname (see below).
However when I use this command:
DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "tSapExport", "c:\sapexport.txt"
I get the following error:
3441 Text file specification field separator matches decimal separator or text delimiter
 
I have no idea what to do with this error. (tried M$, msdn, and even google ;-))
 
Problem 2: I do not know how to create a specification file.
Any idea how to create such a file?
 
TIA
Sander
 
Helpfile info regarding specification field :
For a fixed-width text file, you must either specify an argument or use a schema.ini file, which must be stored in the same folder as the imported, linked, or exported text file. To create a schema file, you can use the text import/export wizard to create the file. For delimited text files and Microsoft Word mail merge data files, you can leave this argument blank to select the default import/export specifications.

Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi S

> First question:
> I need to create a table using a UNION query. How can I do this?

Create a union query, then use that as source for the append/create
query.

> Second question:
> I need to create a TAB-delimited flatfile using the table created above. How do I do that?

Create a query something like this:

SELECT
Field1,
Field2
INTO
[Text;Database=C:\Windows\Temp].[YourFile.txt]
FROM
YourTable;

Before running this, create (or modify) the file schema.ini in the
destination folder:

[YourFile.txt]
ColNameHeader=False
CharacterSet=ANSI
Format=TabDelimited
Col1=Field1 Char Width 50
Col2=Field2 Char Width 50

The output file (YourFile.txt) must not exist before you run the
query.
As you can see, you may not need the temp table at all; use the union
query as source when creating the text file.

For more into on schema.ini file syntax, look here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odbc/htm/odbcjetschema_ini_file.asp

/gustav

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 27 01:57:55 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:57:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; *SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <20041027064318.87527.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041027065755.64969.qmail@web61107.mail.yahoo.com>

Yes, a bright moment in time!
Found out how to create a export spec and it works as a charm!!
It's done like this:
1)Right click the table
2)select export
3)Advanced....e voila, you're in the Export Specification 'wizard'.
4)DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, "SapExportFile_Export_Specification", "tSapExport", "c:\SapExportFile.txt"
Succes.
 
SD


S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Gustav,

thnx for you're reply. I found out that the app I'm modifying is using the following command to export to textfiles and I do not want to introduce a new way of exporting for 1 extra export:

DoCmd.TransferText [transfertype][, specificationname], tablename, filename[, hasfieldnames][, HTMLtablename][, codepage]

Now I have 2 problems.
Problem 1: The help file says that when you use a delimited export you do not need a specificationname (see below).
However when I use this command:
DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "tSapExport", "c:\sapexport.txt"
I get the following error:
3441 Text file specification field separator matches decimal separator or text delimiter

I have no idea what to do with this error. (tried M$, msdn, and even google ;-))

Problem 2: I do not know how to create a specification file.
Any idea how to create such a file?

TIA
Sander

Helpfile info regarding specification field :
For a fixed-width text file, you must either specify an argument or use a schema.ini file, which must be stored in the same folder as the imported, linked, or exported text file. To create a schema file, you can use the text import/export wizard to create the file. For delimited text files and Microsoft Word mail merge data files, you can leave this argument blank to select the default import/export specifications.

Gustav Brock wrote:
Hi S

> First question:
> I need to create a table using a UNION query. How can I do this?

Create a union query, then use that as source for the append/create
query.

> Second question:
> I need to create a TAB-delimited flatfile using the table created above. How do I do that?

Create a query something like this:

SELECT
Field1,
Field2
INTO
[Text;Database=C:\Windows\Temp].[YourFile.txt]
FROM
YourTable;

Before running this, create (or modify) the file schema.ini in the
destination folder:

[YourFile.txt]
ColNameHeader=False
CharacterSet=ANSI
Format=TabDelimited
Col1=Field1 Char Width 50
Col2=Field2 Char Width 50

The output file (YourFile.txt) must not exist before you run the
query.
As you can see, you may not need the temp table at all; use the union
query as source when creating the text file.

For more into on schema.ini file syntax, look here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odbc/htm/odbcjetschema_ini_file.asp

/gustav

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Oct 27 01:57:16 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:57:16 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; Export to flatfile
In-Reply-To: <20041027064318.87527.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1210331495.20041026114056@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <417FD36C.29203.EAC1FCF@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 26 Oct 2004 at 23:43, S D wrote:

> Problem 1: The help file says that when you use a delimited export you do not need a specificationname (see below).
> However when I use this command:
> DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "tSapExport", "c:\sapexport.txt"
> I get the following error:
> 3441 Text file specification field separator matches decimal separator or text delimiter
>  
> I have no idea what to do with this error. (tried M$, msdn, and even google ;-))
>  
> Problem 2: I do not know how to create a specification file.
> Any idea how to create such a file?
>  

The answer to problem 2 will slove Problem 1.

Open the Table and use the File-Export to create a text file. In any step 
of the Export Wizard, click the Advanced button and define the export 
specification then Save it.

Once you have saved it, you can specify the save name in the Docmd 
arguments.


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 27 03:45:11 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:45:11 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; Export to flatfile
In-Reply-To: <20041027064318.87527.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041027064318.87527.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <976242876.20041027104511@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

> Found out how to create a export spec and it works as a charm!!

Great. And Stuart did answer too, thanks.

Schema.ini is nothing but a simple textfile in ini-format.
The link to MS goes into every detail of that file.

/gustav


> Problem 2: I do not know how to create a specification file.
> Any idea how to create such a file?

> For more into on schema.ini file syntax, look here:

> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odbc/htm/odbcjetschema_ini_file.asp



From viner at EUnet.yu  Wed Oct 27 05:17:49 2004
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:17:49 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
Message-ID: <000a01c4bc0e$3cb9f380$0100a8c0@razvoj>

Hi,
sorry for the OT post, but I can't find any suitable(printable) stuff on the Net to improve the math skills of my 4 years old boy. Anybody can recommend some good address?
Many TIA,
    Ervin

From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Wed Oct 27 05:28:11 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:28:11 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C408@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Lots of links here Ervin!

http://www.education.bham.ac.uk/subjects/maths/links/default.htm

Chris Foote


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ervin Brindza [mailto:viner at EUnet.yu]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:18 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
> 
> 
> Hi,
> sorry for the OT post, but I can't find any 
> suitable(printable) stuff on the Net to improve the math 
> skills of my 4 years old boy. Anybody can recommend some good address?
> Many TIA,
>     Ervin


From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Oct 27 12:33:28 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:33:28 (MET DST)
Subject: [AccessD] compare record fields
Message-ID: <200410271033.i9RAXSKg017747@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello Group,

i have a table in which i would compare two fields in one record with each other.
The result must be the record where one of the values don't match with one another.

fieldA    fieldB  and several other fields
00123     00123
02345     02345
06789     06689


result

fieldA   fieldB  and several other fields
06789    06689


Is this possible.

Thanks

Pedro Janssen



From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Oct 27 12:38:19 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:38:19 (MET DST)
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
Message-ID: <200410271038.i9RAcJ9k017883@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello group,

who can point me in the right direction on the development of a database where i use barcode with: In Stock managment.

Thanks

Pedro Janssen


From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 27 05:59:27 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:59:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] compare record fields
In-Reply-To: <200410271033.i9RAXSKg017747@mailhostC.plex.net>
References: <200410271033.i9RAXSKg017747@mailhostC.plex.net>
Message-ID: <13914298179.20041027125927@cactus.dk>

Hi Pedro

> i have a table in which i would compare two fields in one record with each other.
> The result must be the record where one of the values don't match with one another.

> fieldA    fieldB  and several other fields
> 00123     00123
> 02345     02345
> 06789     06689


> result

> fieldA   fieldB  and several other fields
> 06789    06689

That could be:

  SELECT
    *
  FROM
    tblTable
  WHERE
    FieldA<>FieldB;


/gustav



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 27 06:37:18 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:37:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; Export to flatfile
In-Reply-To: <417FD36C.29203.EAC1FCF@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20041027113718.95924.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Gustav AND STUART
 
Thnx :-)

quote gustav [Great. And Stuart did answer too, thanks.] unquote gustav 

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
On 26 Oct 2004 at 23:43, S D wrote:

> Problem 1: The help file says that when you use a delimited export you do not need a specificationname (see below).
> However when I use this command:
> DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "tSapExport", "c:\sapexport.txt"
> I get the following error:
> 3441 Text file specification field separator matches decimal separator or text delimiter
> 
> I have no idea what to do with this error. (tried M$, msdn, and even google ;-))
> 
> Problem 2: I do not know how to create a specification file.
> Any idea how to create such a file?
> 

The answer to problem 2 will slove Problem 1.

Open the Table and use the File-Export to create a text file. In any step 
of the Export Wizard, click the Advanced button and define the export 
specification then Save it.

Once you have saved it, you can specify the save name in the Docmd 
arguments.


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From viner at EUnet.yu  Wed Oct 27 06:17:06 2004
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:17:06 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C408@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <003f01c4bc1a$1c8709c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>

Chris,
many thanks for the URL. My son is clever, but he is a 4 years old, and it's
a little bit early for his Univesity study ;-)
Ervin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Foote, Chris" <Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: 27 October, 2004 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid


> Lots of links here Ervin!
>
> http://www.education.bham.ac.uk/subjects/maths/links/default.htm
>
> Chris Foote
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ervin Brindza [mailto:viner at EUnet.yu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:18 AM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > sorry for the OT post, but I can't find any
> > suitable(printable) stuff on the Net to improve the math
> > skills of my 4 years old boy. Anybody can recommend some good address?
> > Many TIA,
> >     Ervin
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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Wed Oct 27 07:04:04 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:04:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Allow users to change background colors
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73922@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I have a very simple two form application that I have developed for my
office.  Naturally, some folks don't like the colors I chose for the
background.  I would like to give them a way of changing the colors without
giving them access to design view.  Any ideas.  TIA.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Wed Oct 27 07:14:00 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:14:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Import CSV file with Unix end of line characters
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936552235@primary.orridge.co.uk>

To all,
 
Could someone please tell me or send me some sample code on the best way to
import a CSV file which has Unix end of line characters.
 
Thanks in advance for any help on this
 
PAUL HARTLAND
Database Designer/Programmer
paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk
ISHARP
DDI - 01922 472031
Mobile - 07730 523179

 

ISHARP (Information Services for Hospitality, Audit, Retail and Pharmacy)
provide IT resources for the Christie Group Stock & Inventory Services
companies.

 


From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Wed Oct 27 07:16:47 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:16:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C408@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
	<003f01c4bc1a$1c8709c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>
Message-ID: <03cb01c4bc1e$d5aa8720$6401a8c0@default>

Our kids have used this place since 1st grade

http://www.superkids.com/aweb/tools/

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com

> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ervin Brindza [mailto:viner at EUnet.yu]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:18 AM
> > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > sorry for the OT post, but I can't find any
> > > suitable(printable) stuff on the Net to improve the math
> > > skills of my 4 years old boy. Anybody can recommend some good address?
> > > Many TIA,
> > >     Ervin



From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Wed Oct 27 07:20:14 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:20:14 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Allow users to change background colors
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3DE@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>

Hi
You could store the settings in a table or ini file and read in, in the
openevent - but for such a small app you may be on a slippy slope as
changing the background colour now may be the first of many requests!!

Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org] 
Sent: 27 October 2004 13:04
To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Allow users to change background colors

I have a very simple two form application that I have developed for my
office.  Naturally, some folks don't like the colors I chose for the
background.  I would like to give them a way of changing the colors
without
giving them access to design view.  Any ideas.  TIA.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 27 07:20:08 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:20:08 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Allow users to change background colors
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73922@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
References: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73922@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
Message-ID: <18219139080.20041027142008@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

That kind of requests are best fulfilled by asking the users to agree
on a colourset ... they can't.
Or turn into gray scale - no one can complain on that.

/gustav


> I have a very simple two form application that I have developed for my
> office.  Naturally, some folks don't like the colors I chose for the
> background.  I would like to give them a way of changing the colors without
> giving them access to design view.  Any ideas.  TIA.



From viner at EUnet.yu  Wed Oct 27 07:35:02 2004
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:35:02 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C408@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk><003f01c4bc1a$1c8709c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>
	<03cb01c4bc1e$d5aa8720$6401a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <002601c4bc21$ed8d0040$0100a8c0@razvoj>

Wow, looks great!
Many thanks,
    Ervin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael R Mattys" <michael.mattys at adelphia.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: 27 October, 2004 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid


> Our kids have used this place since 1st grade
>
> http://www.superkids.com/aweb/tools/
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ervin Brindza [mailto:viner at EUnet.yu]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:18 AM
> > > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > sorry for the OT post, but I can't find any
> > > > suitable(printable) stuff on the Net to improve the math
> > > > skills of my 4 years old boy. Anybody can recommend some good
address?
> > > > Many TIA,
> > > >     Ervin
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Oct 27 07:43:05 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:43:05 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Allow users to change background colors
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73922@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
Message-ID: <41802479.15558.FE8B2A8@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Oct 2004 at 8:04, Klos, Susan wrote:

> I have a very simple two form application that I have developed for my
> office.  Naturally, some folks don't like the colors I chose for the
> background.  I would like to give them a way of changing the colors without
> giving them access to design view.  Any ideas.  TIA.
> 

In brief: 
Store the desired colour somewhere such as a system table, set it on_load 
and provide a button to call the ChooseColor common dialog,  update the 
current background and store the new colour:

In detail:

1.  Table:  TSysFile Field: BColor - Long

2.  Create a button on the form called cmdColorChange and set the button's 
on_click to [Event procedure]

3. Paste the following into the form's module.

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit
   Private Type CHOOSECOLOR
     lStructSize As Long
     hwndOwner As Long
     hInstance As Long
     rgbResult As Long
     lpCustColors As String
     flags As Long
     lCustData As Long
     lpfnHook As Long
     lpTemplateName As String
   End Type

   Private Declare Function ChooseColorAPI Lib "comdlg32.dll" Alias _
     "ChooseColorA" (pChoosecolor As CHOOSECOLOR) As Long

   Dim CustomColors() As Byte

   Private Sub Form_Load()

       ReDim CustomColors(0 To 16 * 4 - 1) As Byte
       Dim i As Integer

       For i = LBound(CustomColors) To UBound(CustomColors)
           CustomColors(i) = 0
       Next i
       
       Detail.BackColor = DLookup("bcolor", "tsysfile")
 
  End Sub

Private Sub CmdColorChange_Click()
       
       Dim cc As CHOOSECOLOR
       Dim Custcolor(16) As Long
       Dim lReturn As Long
       cc.lStructSize = Len(cc)
       cc.hwndOwner = Me.Hwnd
       cc.hInstance = 0
       cc.lpCustColors = StrConv(CustomColors, vbUnicode)
       cc.flags = 0
       lReturn = ChooseColorAPI(cc)
       If lReturn <> 0 Then
           Detail.BackColor = cc.rgbResult ' Access only **********
           CurrentDb.Execute "Update tSysFile set BColor = " & cc.rgbResult
           CustomColors = StrConv(cc.lpCustColors, vbFromUnicode)
       End If

End Sub


-- 
Stuart




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Oct 27 07:49:25 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:49:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Import CSV file with Unix end of line characters
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936552235@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <418025F5.30030.FEE7E8B@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Oct 2004 at 13:14, Paul Hartland (ISHARP) wrote:

> To all,
>  
> Could someone please tell me or send me some sample code on the best way to
> import a CSV file which has Unix end of line characters.
>  


Here's the PowerBasic code for a simple converter I use for this. You could 
probably do the same thing in VBA  with a few minor mods. I can let you 
have the compiled  executable if you want it.


FUNCTION PBMAIN() AS LONG
DIM infile AS STRING
DIM outfile AS STRING
DIM temp AS STRING

    infile = COMMAND$
    IF DIR$(infile) = "" THEN
        MSGBOX infile & " not found"
        EXIT FUNCTION
    END IF
    OPEN infile$ FOR BINARY AS #1
    GET$ #1, LOF(1), temp
    IF INSTR(temp,CHR$(13,10)) > 0 THEN
         MSGBOX "This file is already DOS formatted!"
    ELSE
       REPLACE CHR$(10) WITH CHR$(13,10) IN temp
       outfile = LEFT$(infile,LEN(infile)-4) & "-DOS.CSV"
       OPEN outfile$ FOR BINARY AS #2
       PUT$ #2, temp
       MSGBOX Infile & " converted to " & outfile
       CLOSE #2
    END IF
    CLOSE #1

END FUNCTION            0

-- 
Stuart




From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 27 08:03:38 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:03:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Animation e.g. gif?
Message-ID: <20041027130338.31864.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
is it possible to add an animation to my Acces form with STANDARD Access 2000 controls?
 
And I mean STANDARD! No, dll's or anything like it.
 
Tia.
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Wed Oct 27 08:27:22 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:27:22 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Import CSV file with Unix end of line characters
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893654FF03@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936552236@primary.orridge.co.uk>

Thanks,

I will have a go at converting it to VBA first

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 27 October 2004 13:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Import CSV file with Unix end of line characters


On 27 Oct 2004 at 13:14, Paul Hartland (ISHARP) wrote:

> To all,
>  
> Could someone please tell me or send me some sample code on the best 
> way to import a CSV file which has Unix end of line characters.
>  


Here's the PowerBasic code for a simple converter I use for this. You could 
probably do the same thing in VBA  with a few minor mods. I can let you 
have the compiled  executable if you want it.


FUNCTION PBMAIN() AS LONG
DIM infile AS STRING
DIM outfile AS STRING
DIM temp AS STRING

    infile = COMMAND$
    IF DIR$(infile) = "" THEN
        MSGBOX infile & " not found"
        EXIT FUNCTION
    END IF
    OPEN infile$ FOR BINARY AS #1
    GET$ #1, LOF(1), temp
    IF INSTR(temp,CHR$(13,10)) > 0 THEN
         MSGBOX "This file is already DOS formatted!"
    ELSE
       REPLACE CHR$(10) WITH CHR$(13,10) IN temp
       outfile = LEFT$(infile,LEN(infile)-4) & "-DOS.CSV"
       OPEN outfile$ FOR BINARY AS #2
       PUT$ #2, temp
       MSGBOX Infile & " converted to " & outfile
       CLOSE #2
    END IF
    CLOSE #1

END FUNCTION            0

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Oct 27 08:22:25 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:22:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C7448696E@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Right but in this case if the TableNames method has not been called the collection will not be instantiated and an error will have to be handled.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


The class Count method would *use* the Count method of the underlying
collection.  An empty collection should return a zero count.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 5:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Drew,

You're making the assumption that the collection has already been
populated when you add a Count method to the class.  In the attached
code it's being filled when TableNames is called so a call to a count
method could be inaccurate (although a return of 0 or an error would
tell you the collection hadn't been filled).  

Also, why bother writing this method when the returned collection
already has a built in count that can be called from any variable
assigned to the class method?

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection

What I prefer to do is create a count and Info property for the class:

So if I have a SomeObject class, and I have a SomeObjects Class, I would
have something like this:

Dim SomeObjs as Collection
Property get SomeObjectCount() As Long SomeObjectCount=SomeObjs.Count
End Get Property Get SomeObjectInfo(intPos) As SomeObject Set
SomeObjectInfo=SomeObjs(val(intPos))
End Property

Lets you loop through the collection then.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate
that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct 27 08:41:33 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:41:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] compare record fields
In-Reply-To: <200410271033.i9RAXSKg017747@mailhostC.plex.net>
Message-ID: <20041027134134.LPLW8988.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

There's a wizard for that. Try the Duplicates wizard. 

Susan H. 

Hello Group,

i have a table in which i would compare two fields in one record with each
other.
The result must be the record where one of the values don't match with one
another.

fieldA    fieldB  and several other fields
00123     00123
02345     02345
06789     06689


result

fieldA   fieldB  and several other fields
06789    06689


Is this possible.

Thanks

Pedro Janssen

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct 27 08:41:33 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:41:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4bc0e$3cb9f380$0100a8c0@razvoj>
Message-ID: <20041027134142.LPOU8988.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Try Reader Rabbit CD's. I don't know if they have any math games aimed at
that age, but I know they have preschool games. Lexie loved Reader Rabbit
for the longest time. 

Susan H. 

Hi,
sorry for the OT post, but I can't find any suitable(printable) stuff on the
Net to improve the math skills of my 4 years old boy. Anybody can recommend
some good address?
Many TIA,



From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Oct 27 08:43:52 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:43:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068C51@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


A couple of years ago, we wanted to use barcodes for specimens used in evaluating inspectors.
After much research on the code to generate the barcode, we purchased a barcode reader.
After we purchased the barcode reader, we realized how simple it was.  
The barcode reader came with the code to generate the barcode and instructions on how to scan the items.
In hindsight, we should have bought the barcode reader first, then if needed, do the research to generate the barcode.
My recommendation is to decide which barcode reader you want to use first.
The information that comes with the barcode reader might just have all the information you need.
In Access the easiest barcode to use is called Code 39, which is easily downloaded as a font. As a font, it can be used for any alphanumeric character and can be printed on labels, forms, etc.

The barcode reader we purchased acted like any input device.  Whatever field the cursor is in, is where the data is placed.

HTH
Jim H.

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To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment


Hello group,

who can point me in the right direction on the development of a database where i use barcode with: In Stock managment.

Thanks

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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Wed Oct 27 08:49:50 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:49:50 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C40C@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

LOL!

Sorry Ervin, I thought there were links towards the bottom of the page to
items suitable for 4 year olds. Darned if I can find them now.

I would have thought though that, the four year old child of an AccessDer
should be capable of handling maths designed for an "ordinary" 8-year old
;-O

Regards
Chris Foote


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ervin Brindza [mailto:viner at EUnet.yu]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:17 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
> 
> 
> Chris,
> many thanks for the URL. My son is clever, but he is a 4 
> years old, and it's
> a little bit early for his Univesity study ;-)
> Ervin
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> Sent: 27 October, 2004 12:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
> 
> 
> > Lots of links here Ervin!
> >
> > http://www.education.bham.ac.uk/subjects/maths/links/default.htm
> >
> > Chris Foote


From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Oct 27 09:06:42 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:06:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF93E@DISABILITYINS01>

>The barcode reader we purchased acted like any input device.  Whatever
field the cursor is in, is where the data is placed.

You might want to go with a serial port reader (or usb port these days?).  

The alternative as a "keyboard wedge" type (sits between the keyboard and
PC, inserting the data right into the keyboard stream).  These cause
problems.  

The reason is that with the serial port readers you have control over where
and when you read the bar code.  I have used both and, users being users,
when you use the "keyboard wedge", you ALWAYS end up with garbage in word
documents, excel documents, the wrong form etc.  Basically the user forgets
to go to the right place before scanning and they corrupt whatever data they
the insertion pointer (cursor / focus) is currently on.

The serial port type is more difficult to get set up since you have to use a
serial port control (comes with vba), but once set up you can turn on / off
the reader (or more correctly the serial port) programmatically, thus
controlling when the user can scan data.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment



A couple of years ago, we wanted to use barcodes for specimens used in
evaluating inspectors.
After much research on the code to generate the barcode, we purchased a
barcode reader.
After we purchased the barcode reader, we realized how simple it was.  
The barcode reader came with the code to generate the barcode and
instructions on how to scan the items.
In hindsight, we should have bought the barcode reader first, then if
needed, do the research to generate the barcode.
My recommendation is to decide which barcode reader you want to use first.
The information that comes with the barcode reader might just have all the
information you need.
In Access the easiest barcode to use is called Code 39, which is easily
downloaded as a font. As a font, it can be used for any alphanumeric
character and can be printed on labels, forms, etc.

The barcode reader we purchased acted like any input device.  Whatever field
the cursor is in, is where the data is placed.

HTH
Jim H.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:38 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment


Hello group,

who can point me in the right direction on the development of a database
where i use barcode with: In Stock managment.

Thanks

Pedro Janssen
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Oct 27 09:28:19 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:28:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF7370@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

 The  in-between-keyboard barcodescanner only works with PS2 type of
keyboards.
Some brand are migrating to USB connector keyboards.

The in-between-keyboard barcodescanner does not work when no PS2
keyboard is connected.

Erwin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Colby, John
Verzonden: woensdag 27 oktober 2004 16:07
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment

>The barcode reader we purchased acted like any input device.  Whatever
field the cursor is in, is where the data is placed.

You might want to go with a serial port reader (or usb port these
days?).  

The alternative as a "keyboard wedge" type (sits between the keyboard
and PC, inserting the data right into the keyboard stream).  These cause
problems.  

The reason is that with the serial port readers you have control over
where and when you read the bar code.  I have used both and, users being
users, when you use the "keyboard wedge", you ALWAYS end up with garbage
in word documents, excel documents, the wrong form etc.  Basically the
user forgets to go to the right place before scanning and they corrupt
whatever data they the insertion pointer (cursor / focus) is currently
on.

The serial port type is more difficult to get set up since you have to
use a serial port control (comes with vba), but once set up you can turn
on / off the reader (or more correctly the serial port)
programmatically, thus controlling when the user can scan data.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment



A couple of years ago, we wanted to use barcodes for specimens used in
evaluating inspectors.
After much research on the code to generate the barcode, we purchased a
barcode reader.
After we purchased the barcode reader, we realized how simple it was.  
The barcode reader came with the code to generate the barcode and
instructions on how to scan the items.
In hindsight, we should have bought the barcode reader first, then if
needed, do the research to generate the barcode.
My recommendation is to decide which barcode reader you want to use
first.
The information that comes with the barcode reader might just have all
the information you need.
In Access the easiest barcode to use is called Code 39, which is easily
downloaded as a font. As a font, it can be used for any alphanumeric
character and can be printed on labels, forms, etc.

The barcode reader we purchased acted like any input device.  Whatever
field the cursor is in, is where the data is placed.

HTH
Jim H.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:38 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment


Hello group,

who can point me in the right direction on the development of a database
where i use barcode with: In Stock managment.

Thanks

Pedro Janssen
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 27 09:43:35 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:43:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
References: <002c01c4b6e6$68807980$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <417FB417.6010601@shaw.ca>

Something I came across from an ASP perspective
http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/

Barbara Ryan wrote:

>Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web application.
>
>Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
>
>Thanks,
>Barb Ryan
>  
>

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Oct 27 09:50:29 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:50:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Animation e.g. gif?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B1A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You could use a form timer, but I don't think you would like the results
because Access timers tend to interfer with absolutely everything!

Charlotte Foust


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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Animation e.g. gif?


Hi group,
 
is it possible to add an animation to my Acces form with STANDARD Access
2000 controls?
 
And I mean STANDARD! No, dll's or anything like it.
 
Tia.
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Oct 27 09:50:42 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:50:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D031@main2.marlow.com>

It is slow, though in a single use function, it isn't noticable.  Put it in
a big loop, or use it all over in a report, and you'll notice delays.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 4:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


Hi Donald and Susan

It's an old and persistent rumour that DLookup is always slow. Quite
often it is not. So, Susan, give it a try - it's extremely simple and
in a minute your problem will be solved and you can move on to the
more funny tasks.

By the way, the code could be simplified even further:

  strCriteria ="[QAFName]='" & Me![UsersName] & "'"
  If IsNull(Dlookup("[ProjectID]", "tblProjects", strCriteria)) Then
    MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects."
  Else
    ' Open form ...
  End If

/gustav


> Well, I don't have to worry much about portability issues, but I'd be
> interested in the opinions of folks better versed than I in the area of
> optimization.  I was under the impression that a simple one-time call to
> a domain function in a case like this is no big deal in terms of speed.
> (I suppose it depends on the size of the table.)  I do avoid using them
> in iterative processes, however.  

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 27 10:35:42 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:35:42 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
In-Reply-To: <417FB417.6010601@shaw.ca>
References: <002c01c4b6e6$68807980$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
	<417FB417.6010601@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <7630872802.20041027173542@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

> Something I came across from an ASP perspective
> http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/

Hmm ... I found this a thin cup of tea.
And boy, is that site awful ...

/gustav



From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Oct 27 11:19:33 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:19:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54A0@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Hi group
 
I already asked this question but never got a response to it.
The list was having some mail problems at that time so I'm not sure if
my mail got around.
I found it rather curious no one responded to my mail.
 
Who has some experiences with Access on a tablet pc?
 
More specific I want to kown if (regular) Access 2003 Runs on Windows XP
for Tablets PC edition?
And if I should know some special stuff running on it.
I'm developping an app that, for remote client side, should run on a
tablet pc....
 
Thx

 

Erwin Craps

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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Wed Oct 27 13:14:13 2004
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:14:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
References: <002c01c4b6e6$68807980$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
	<417FB417.6010601@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000a01c4bc50$c3807dc0$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

Thanks, Marty....

I had looked at this site as well as several others on the Web.  I think
that my main question is a performance issue --- since MySQL does not use
server side cursors, is there any performance advantage over using the
existing Access back-end?

I could also use a SQL Server back-end using ODBC.  However, it is my
understanding that I would need modify code (SQL statements, queries, etc)
in the Access front end to optimize performance using SQL Server (vs. an
Access back-end).  I am not an expert in any of this my any means, so please
correct me if I've spoken heresy!

Again, some considerations are that my client currently does not own SQL
Server but is using MySQL in their web application.

Thanks,
Barb Ryan




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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database


> Something I came across from an ASP perspective
> http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/
>
> Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a
front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in
converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They
currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web
application.
> >
> >Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Barb Ryan
> >
> >
>
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Wed Oct 27 13:12:15 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:12:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Animation e.g. gif?
In-Reply-To: <200410271700.i9RH0fL18479@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041027130404.01381e00@pop3.highstream.net>

Sander,

Access is a database program, not a tinker toy graphics
program.

The simple answer is "no."

The complex answer is:

If you want to slow the form to a crawl and give it an
unprofessional, childish look, you can use the timer
event to make things happen on the form that looks
like animation.

Access simply does not have the event model to do it.

Hummm, did my prejudice about Mickey Mouse design
show????

Robert

At 12:00 PM 10/27/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:03:38 -0700 (PDT)
>From: S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Animation e.g. gif?
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Message-ID: <20041027130338.31864.qmail at web61110.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Hi group,
>
>is it possible to add an animation to my Acces form with STANDARD Access 
>2000 controls?
>
>And I mean STANDARD! No, dll's or anything like it.
>
>Tia.
>Sander




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From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:09:08 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54A0@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <000201c4bc50$0de42e80$9139fc3e@netboxxp>

Hi Erwin

I have been running Access XP on a tablet for a month with no probs (the
tablet is now my main dev machine when I'm on-site and also runs
MSDE)... I did a test install of 2003 and it 'seemed' to work but I only
played with it for a couple of hours before restoring from a ghost.

I have notice no difference other than input options etc. using Tablet
XP. From what I understand its exactly the same as normal Windows (if
there is any such thing :O) but with a few extra bits tacked on...

I am also new to Tablets, pretty impressed so far but dissapointed with
voice recognition. 

Good luck

Mark

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Sent: 27 October 2004 17:20
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Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)


Hi group
 
I already asked this question but never got a response to it. The list
was having some mail problems at that time so I'm not sure if my mail
got around. I found it rather curious no one responded to my mail.
 
Who has some experiences with Access on a tablet pc?
 
More specific I want to kown if (regular) Access 2003 Runs on Windows XP
for Tablets PC edition? And if I should know some special stuff running
on it. I'm developping an app that, for remote client side, should run
on a tablet pc....
 
Thx

 

Erwin Craps

Zaakvoerder 

www.ithelps.be/jonathan

 

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Wed Oct 27 13:20:32 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:20:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Access with a MySQL database
In-Reply-To: <200410271700.i9RH0fL18479@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041027131830.013db158@pop3.highstream.net>

If they have Office 2000 or higher, they have SQL Server in the MSDE.
It is good for up to 10 concurrent users.

My SQL does not support stored procedures, views, or referential
integrity.  SQL Server, even the MSDE, does.

Robert

At 12:00 PM 10/27/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:43:35 -0700
>From: MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <417FB417.6010601 at shaw.ca>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii
>
>Something I came across from an ASP perspective
>http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/
>
>Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a 
> front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in 
> converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They 
> currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web application.
> >
> >Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Barb Ryan
> >
> >




From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 27 13:32:12 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:32:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4bc50$c3807dc0$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIAEIDCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Barb:

These comments are from my observations:

1. Using MySQL is slower than Access DAO when working with small to medium
sized tables and having to use an ODBC driver adds another performance hit.
The lose in performance is totally connection related.
2. MySQL's tables can exceed 2GB, still runs fast, even with huge files and
of course it is free.
3. MS SQL does not need an ODBC drive, handles huge files, runs very fast
and has an awesome set of features but can be considered expensive.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Barbara Ryan
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database


Thanks, Marty....

I had looked at this site as well as several others on the Web.  I think
that my main question is a performance issue --- since MySQL does not use
server side cursors, is there any performance advantage over using the
existing Access back-end?

I could also use a SQL Server back-end using ODBC.  However, it is my
understanding that I would need modify code (SQL statements, queries, etc)
in the Access front end to optimize performance using SQL Server (vs. an
Access back-end).  I am not an expert in any of this my any means, so please
correct me if I've spoken heresy!

Again, some considerations are that my client currently does not own SQL
Server but is using MySQL in their web application.

Thanks,
Barb Ryan




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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database


> Something I came across from an ASP perspective
> http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/
>
> Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a
front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in
converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They
currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web
application.
> >
> >Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Barb Ryan
> >
> >
>
> --
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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Wed Oct 27 13:49:10 2004
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:49:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Access with a MySQL database
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041027131830.013db158@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <002101c4bc55$a5ac6fc0$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

That's good news (regarding Microsoft SQL) --- they currently are using
Access 97, but are converting to XP in the near future, so looks like
they'll have it.   I don't think that they will have more than 10 users.

Barb


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:20 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Access with a MySQL database


> If they have Office 2000 or higher, they have SQL Server in the MSDE.
> It is good for up to 10 concurrent users.
>
> My SQL does not support stored procedures, views, or referential
> integrity.  SQL Server, even the MSDE, does.
>
> Robert
>
> At 12:00 PM 10/27/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:43:35 -0700
> >From: MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Message-ID: <417FB417.6010601 at shaw.ca>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >Something I came across from an ASP perspective
> >http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/
> >
> >Barbara Ryan wrote:
> >
> > >Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a
> > front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in
> > converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They
> > currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web
application.
> > >
> > >Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Barb Ryan
> > >
> > >
>
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Oct 27 15:46:55 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:46:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54A1@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Aha 
Thank you Mark
Now I now it should work.

I'm pretty disapointed that no Access developers have developed an app
for tablet pc's.
I tought there can be a pretty big market in that area.

I'm developing a app for experts that estimates real estates by a
prededined list of questions that will be filled in on site or in the
car and afterwards be send to the main office.

What concernes voice recognition, never believed in it. I believe its a
waste of time and money. They would have better invested that money
straightaway in mind control.
The day mind control will be working and affordable will be the day
computer use will make a giant leap.
Use of computer is now bottle necked by the keyboard. Speech will not
resolve the slowness of user input. Mind control should...
But today it is rather slow to.... About 1 command in two minutes...


 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MarkH
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)

Hi Erwin

I have been running Access XP on a tablet for a month with no probs (the
tablet is now my main dev machine when I'm on-site and also runs
MSDE)... I did a test install of 2003 and it 'seemed' to work but I only
played with it for a couple of hours before restoring from a ghost.

I have notice no difference other than input options etc. using Tablet
XP. From what I understand its exactly the same as normal Windows (if
there is any such thing :O) but with a few extra bits tacked on...

I am also new to Tablets, pretty impressed so far but dissapointed with
voice recognition. 

Good luck

Mark

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
IT Helps
Sent: 27 October 2004 17:20
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)


Hi group
 
I already asked this question but never got a response to it. The list
was having some mail problems at that time so I'm not sure if my mail
got around. I found it rather curious no one responded to my mail.
 
Who has some experiences with Access on a tablet pc?
 
More specific I want to kown if (regular) Access 2003 Runs on Windows XP
for Tablets PC edition? And if I should know some special stuff running
on it. I'm developping an app that, for remote client side, should run
on a tablet pc....
 
Thx

 

Erwin Craps

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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Oct 27 16:27:04 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:27:04 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] compare record fields
References: <200410271033.i9RAXSKg017747@mailhostC.plex.net>
	<13914298179.20041027125927@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <003f01c4bc6b$df6cf980$f2c581d5@pedro>

Gustav,

thanks for your help.


Susan,

i believ that the duplicate wizard only works on two tables,
and gives as result only the field that isn't present in teh other table.
I need the two fields with the mismatch in one record.

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] compare record fields


> Hi Pedro
>
> > i have a table in which i would compare two fields in one record with
each other.
> > The result must be the record where one of the values don't match with
one another.
>
> > fieldA    fieldB  and several other fields
> > 00123     00123
> > 02345     02345
> > 06789     06689
>
>
> > result
>
> > fieldA   fieldB  and several other fields
> > 06789    06689
>
> That could be:
>
>   SELECT
>     *
>   FROM
>     tblTable
>   WHERE
>     FieldA<>FieldB;
>
>
> /gustav
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Oct 27 18:03:37 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:03:37 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54A1@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <4180B5E9.25846.1220CFF9@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Oct 2004 at 22:46, Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

> What concernes voice recognition, never believed in it. I believe its a
> waste of time and money. They would have better invested that money
> straightaway in mind control.
> The day mind control will be working and affordable will be the day
> computer use will make a giant leap.
> Use of computer is now bottle necked by the keyboard. Speech will not
> resolve the slowness of user input. Mind control should...
> But today it is rather slow to.... About 1 command in two minutes...
> 

Take a look at Dasher 
I'm writing this using just a mouse and it works well with a bit of 
practice 

http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/-- 
Stuart




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 27 18:29:41 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:29:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54A1@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <41802F65.5090606@shaw.ca>

You could use these palm top mini laptop that run WinXP home
Some have keyboards but they run hot and have short battery life.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3121_7-5538408-1.html?tag=nl.e404

 A lot of developers are using C#.net or asp.netfor palm tops because 
they can use smarterm
which allows immediate screen redesign of forms depending on screen 
realestate
So they don't have to rewrite for different machines.


Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Aha 
>Thank you Mark
>Now I now it should work.
>
>I'm pretty disapointed that no Access developers have developed an app
>for tablet pc's.
>I tought there can be a pretty big market in that area.
>
>I'm developing a app for experts that estimates real estates by a
>prededined list of questions that will be filled in on site or in the
>car and afterwards be send to the main office.
>
>What concernes voice recognition, never believed in it. I believe its a
>waste of time and money. They would have better invested that money
>straightaway in mind control.
>The day mind control will be working and affordable will be the day
>computer use will make a giant leap.
>Use of computer is now bottle necked by the keyboard. Speech will not
>resolve the slowness of user input. Mind control should...
>But today it is rather slow to.... About 1 command in two minutes...
>
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MarkH
>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:09 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)
>
>Hi Erwin
>
>I have been running Access XP on a tablet for a month with no probs (the
>tablet is now my main dev machine when I'm on-site and also runs
>MSDE)... I did a test install of 2003 and it 'seemed' to work but I only
>played with it for a couple of hours before restoring from a ghost.
>
>I have notice no difference other than input options etc. using Tablet
>XP. From what I understand its exactly the same as normal Windows (if
>there is any such thing :O) but with a few extra bits tacked on...
>
>I am also new to Tablets, pretty impressed so far but dissapointed with
>voice recognition. 
>
>Good luck
>
>Mark
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
>IT Helps
>Sent: 27 October 2004 17:20
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)
>
>
>Hi group
> 
>I already asked this question but never got a response to it. The list
>was having some mail problems at that time so I'm not sure if my mail
>got around. I found it rather curious no one responded to my mail.
> 
>Who has some experiences with Access on a tablet pc?
> 
>More specific I want to kown if (regular) Access 2003 Runs on Windows XP
>for Tablets PC edition? And if I should know some special stuff running
>on it. I'm developping an app that, for remote client side, should run
>on a tablet pc....
> 
>Thx
>
> 
>
>Erwin Craps
>
>Zaakvoerder 
>
>www.ithelps.be/jonathan
>
> 
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Oct 27 20:54:12 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:54:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
In-Reply-To: <417FB417.6010601@shaw.ca>
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	<417FB417.6010601@shaw.ca>
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MartyConnelly wrote:

> Something I came across from an ASP perspective
> http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/
>
> Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a 
>> front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in 
>> converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They 
>> currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web 
>> application.
>>
>> Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Barb Ryan
>>  
>>
>
Hmph. I thought I answered this already, but it must have been a senior 
moment. I have been there and done that extensively, for the book (that 
was cancelled, and will soon re-emerge as a web site) my partner Peter 
Brawley and I wrote about MySQL.

In brief, the basic setup is dead simple. Download MyODBC from MySQL.com 
and install it. Copy your current app to a new file and start there. You 
also have to get the data from your current database to MySQL but for 
the moment I'll jump over that issue.

Run the linked tables wizard and choose odbc as the file type and then 
create a connection to your MySQL database. Check each table in the 
database manager before proceeding. Attempt to add a row. If you get a 
new row with everything marked #deleted#, then add a DateTime column to 
every such table and set its default to Now(). Repeat until success. Now 
load the forms one by one and see if they work.

That should do it. I may have skipped over a few trivialities but that's 
the nut.

Now back to the import problem. Assuming that all you have is Access and 
MySQL, you can do it this way: create the aforementioned MySQL database, 
then the MDB and the ODBC hook to it, then choose File/Get External 
Data/Import and then select the current Access database. Select all the 
tables and go. You may have data-type-conversion problems. Don't expect 
the first pass to be 100% successful. See what went wrong and fix it 
first, until finally the import works 100%.

After that, your data will all be in MySQL. You may at that point choose 
to revise your indexing strategies, or not. Compare the versions for 
performance.

HTH,
A.


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Oct 27 22:16:12 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:16:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux and UNIX
Message-ID: <010d01c4bc9c$7aa1ca40$6701a8c0@HAL9002>

Steve sent me this personal message.  Wanted me to know.  Thought you all 
should as well.

Rocky

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To: <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:34 PM
Subject: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux and UNIX


In the thousands of meetings that Microsoft employees have with customers 
around the world every day, many of the same questions consistently surface: 
Does an open source platform really provide a long-term cost advantage 
compared with Windows? Which platform offers the most secure computing 
environment? Given the growing concern among customers about intellectual 
property indemnification, what's the best way to minimize risk? In moving 
from an expensive UNIX platform, what's the best alternative in terms of 
migration?

Customers want factual information to help them make the best decisions 
about these issues. About a year ago, a senior Microsoft team led by General 
Manager Martin Taylor was created to figure out how we could do a better job 
helping customers evaluate our products against alternatives such as 
Linux/open source and proprietary UNIX. This team has worked with a number 
of top analyst firms that have generated independent, third-party reports on 
cost of acquisition, total cost of ownership, security and indemnification. 
Some of the studies were commissioned by Microsoft, while others were 
initiated and funded by the analysts. In each case, the research 
methodology, findings and conclusions were the sole domain of the analyst 
firms. This was essential: we wanted truly independent, factual information.

At the same time, our worldwide sales organization is going even deeper with 
customers to understand their needs and create a feedback loop with our 
product development teams that enables us to deliver integrated solutions 
that support real-world customer scenarios, and comprehensively address 
issues such as manageability, ease of use and reliability.

I'm writing to you and other business decision makers and IT professionals 
today to share some of the data around these key issues - and to provide 
examples of customers who opted to go with the Windows platform rather than 
Linux or UNIX, and how that's playing out for them in the real world. Much 
more information on this is at www.microsoft.com/getthefacts.

This email is one in an occasional series of emails from Microsoft 
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TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP AND ACQUISITION COSTS

In the past few years, you haven't been able to open a computing magazine or 
visit a technology Web site without running into an article about Linux and 
open source. Not surprising: who doesn't like the idea of a "free" operating 
system that just about anyone can tinker with?

But as the Yankee Group commented in an independent, non-sponsored global 
study of 1,000 IT administrators and executives, Linux, UNIX and Windows TCO 
Comparison, things aren't always as they seem: "All of the major Linux 
vendors and distributors (including Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Novell [SUSE and 
Ximian] and Red Hat) have begun charging hefty premiums for must-have items 
such as technical service and support, product warranties and licensing 
indemnification."

Yankee's study concluded that, in large enterprises, a significant Linux 
deployment or total switch from Windows to Linux would be three to four 
times more expensive - and take three times as long to deploy - as an 
upgrade from one version of Windows to a newer release. And nine out of 10 
enterprise customers said that such a change wouldn't provide any tangible 
business gains.

Yankee also noted that, for larger organizations with complex computer 
networks, it's important to look beyond Linux's initial low investment cost 
and consider all of the TCO and ROI factors.

This is exactly what one of our large enterprise customers, Equifax, did 
recently. Equifax, a $1.2 billion U.S.-based enterprise with 4,600 employees 
in 13 countries, needed more computing power than its mainframe systems 
could deliver for rapidly searching the company's vast marketing database. 
They spent several months conducting an internal analysis, which proved 
that, compared with Linux, Windows would realize a 14% cost savings and 
shorten their time to market by six months. (Equifax Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.aspx?CaseStudyID=15528)

Another comprehensive, non-sponsored study by Forrester, entitled The Costs 
and Risks of Open Source, drew a similar conclusion: "The allure of free 
software is accelerating the deployment of open source platforms, but open 
source is not free and may actually increase financial and business risks."

In early 2004, Forrester conducted in-depth discussions with 14 companies 
that had been running Linux platforms for longer than one year to see what 
the costs really were. Several key themes emerged:

- Few companies know what they're really spending. Only five of the 14 kept 
detailed metrics - and each of those five found Linux more expensive (5% to 
20%) than their current Microsoft environments.

- Preparation and planning activities took 5% to 25% longer for Linux than 
Windows.

- Training for IT employees was significantly higher for Linux than for 
Windows - on average, 15% more expensive. The reasons: training materials 
were less readily available, and customers spent more on training to 
compensate for the lack of internal knowledge about Linux.

- All 14 companies said it was difficult finding qualified Linux personnel 
in the marketplace to support their Linux projects. When they did find 
third-party help, they had less leverage negotiating hourly rates than with 
Windows consulting resources.

One of our mid-market customers, Computer Builders Warehouse (CBW), came to 
a similar conclusion. CBW builds computers to order for education, 
government, and corporate customers. Several years ago, it deployed Red Hat 
and Mandrake versions of Linux to support its corporate, retail and 
e-commerce applications. Challenged with high costs, CBW subsequently 
migrated to Microsoft Windows Server System, and reduced its total cost of 
ownership by 25 percent. It also consolidated its server population by 50 
percent, reduced maintenance time by 50 percent, and boosted developer 
productivity by 200 percent. These benefits - totaling $650,000 in savings - 
are dwarfed by the millions of dollars in new revenue that CBW expects as a 
result of bringing a key security and monitoring product to market more than 
two years faster than it could have done using Linux. (CBW Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.aspx?CaseStudyID=15131)

SECURITY

About three years ago, we made software security a top priority, and since 
then we've invested heavily in a multi-pronged effort to improve software 
quality and development processes, and to reduce risks for customers through 
education and guidance, industry collaboration and enforcement. I think it's 
fair to say that no other software platform has invested as much in security 
R&D, process improvements and customer education as we have at Microsoft.

Still, Linux has often been touted as a more secure platform. In part, this 
is because of the "many eyeballs" maxim of open source software that claims 
a correlation between the number of developers looking at code and the 
number of bugs found and resolved. While this has some validity, it is not 
necessarily the best way to develop secure software. We believe in the 
effectiveness of a structured software engineering process that includes a 
deep focus on quality, technology advances, and vigorous testing to make 
software more secure.

A number of third-party reports have questioned how safe the Linux platform 
really is. For example, a recent independent study by Forrester, Is Linux 
More Secure than Windows?, highlighted that the four major Linux 
distributions have a higher incidence and severity of vulnerabilities, and 
are slower than Microsoft to provide security updates.

According to Forrester, Microsoft had the lowest elapsed time between 
disclosure of a vulnerability and the release of a fix. They found that 
Microsoft addressed all of the 128 publicly disclosed security flaws in 
Windows over the 12-month period studied, and that its security updates 
predated major outbreaks by an average of 305 days.

Other independent sources of data show similar conclusions. According to 
statistics posted on the security Web site Secunia 
(http://secunia.com/product/2535#statistics_month), Red Hat Enterprise Linux 
3 has averaged 7.4 security advisories per month, compared with 1.7 
advisories for Windows Server 2003.

And as Yankee Group noted in its Linux, UNIX and Windows TCO Comparison 
study, "Linux-specific worms and viruses are every bit as pernicious as 
their UNIX and Windows counterparts - and in many cases they are much more 
stealthy."

This was a deciding factor in farmaCity's selection of Windows over Linux. 
Headquartered in Buenos Aires, farmaCity is a rapidly growing Argentinian 
drugstore chain with 50 outlets and 1,200 employees. Although farmaCity's 
growth in recent years was a testament to its success, the company's aging 
technology infrastructure had become a hindrance to further expansion. After 
careful analysis, farmaCity concluded that Windows would reduce network 
administration by 30 percent compared with Linux, and would also simplify 
identity and desktop management. But the core reason for selecting Microsoft 
was the increase in network security, complemented by the ability to reduce 
patch-deployment time by 50 percent while cutting unsolicited e-mail by 
half. (farmaCity Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.aspx?CaseStudyID=15269)

INDEMNIFICATION

Increasingly, we're hearing from customers that another factor in their 
consideration of computing platforms is indemnification. In 2003, we looked 
at our volume licensing contracts to see what we could do to increase 
customer satisfaction, and a top issue we heard about was patent 
indemnification, which then was capped at the amount the customer had paid 
for the software. So later that year, we lifted that cap for our volume 
licensing customers, who are most likely to be the target of an intellectual 
property lawsuit.

Today, when a volume licensing customer - a business or organization ranging 
from as few as five computers to many thousands - licenses a Microsoft 
product, we provide uncapped protection for legal costs associated with a 
patent, copyright, trademark or trade secret claim alleging infringement by 
a Microsoft product. We do this because we are proud to stand behind our 
products, and because we understand that being on the wrong end of a 
software patent lawsuit could cost a customer millions of dollars, and 
massively disrupt their business.

No vendor today stands behind Linux with full IP indemnification. In fact, 
it is rare for open source software to provide customers with any 
indemnification at all. We think Microsoft's indemnification already is one 
of the best offered by the leading players in the industry for volume 
licensing customers, and we're looking at ways to expand it to an even 
broader set of our customers. It's definitely something businesses want to 
think about as they're building or expanding their IT infrastructure.

It was certainly a factor for Regal Entertainment Group, the largest movie 
theatre chain in the world. In 2001, they moved to Red Hat Linux. After 
evaluating Linux in their business for several months, however, they 
migrated to the Microsoft platform - not only because of lower TCO, stronger 
support and services, and greater reliability and manageability, but because 
they were more fully indemnified on IP. J.E. Henry, CIO of Regal 
Entertainment, told me that "reduced risk was a decision factor in selecting 
Windows over Linux. We needed to minimize our exposure to the distraction of 
potential IP infringement claims, and we had a big enough open source 
presence to be concerned. With the way that Microsoft stands behind its 
products, it's one less thing that I have to worry about."

UNIX MIGRATION

One of the hot topics among enterprise IT and business decision makers today 
is the costs and benefits of migrating enterprise resource planning systems 
(ERP) from costly, proprietary UNIX environments to Windows or other 
platforms. ERP integrates various company functions such as human resources, 
inventories and financials, and links a company to its vendors and 
customers.

An independent, qualitative survey of organizations that recently completed 
a migration of their SAP or PeopleSoft ERP system from a UNIX environment to 
the Microsoft Windows Server platform found a more than 20% reduction in the 
number of servers required compared with UNIX. The survey, by META Group, 
found that in one large telecommunications company, consolidation on Windows 
allowed a greater than 50 percent reduction in the number of required 
servers.

The survey also found a more than 50 percent improvement in areas such as 
reliability, accessibility and scalability; significant savings in cost 
management, IT staffing, performance monitoring and vendor management; and 
measurable savings in technical support and training. More than half of 
business function decision makers also saw significant improvements in areas 
such as consistency, accuracy, reporting enhancement and performance.

"Windows is now a mainstream option for the vast majority of ERP projects," 
META Group concluded.

A great case study is the Raiffeisen Bank Group, the largest private bank 
group in Austria with about 2,600 branches. It wanted to reduce costs and 
provide better customer service by consolidating the number of servers in 
its branches by 50 percent. Raiffeisen investigated migrating from UNIX to 
either Linux or Windows. After evaluating the possible solutions, the 
company found that Windows Server 2003 would provide the most economical 
solution along with better performance, while giving bank employees an 
integrated view of customer information that they needed to improve customer 
service. (Raiffeisen Bank Group Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.aspx?CaseStudyID=15519)

One of our mid-market customers had a similar experience. Grand Expeditions 
is a consortium of luxury travel companies that significantly reduced its 
Web development and hosting costs, and improved site reliability and 
performance, by moving from a combination of Linux- and UNIX-based servers 
to Windows Server 2003 and the Windows Server System. The new system was up 
and running in just 60 days, and is saving Grand Expeditions $200,000 a 
year. (Grand Expeditions Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.aspx?CaseStudyID=15397)

IN CLOSING...

There is no question that customers are benefiting today from a healthy, 
competitive IT industry. Competition requires companies to really focus in 
on what customers want and need. At the same time, customers have a clearer 
opportunity than ever before to evaluate choices.

For example, BET.com, the Internet portal created by Viacom subsidiary BET 
Networks, did an in-depth comparison of Red Hat Linux and Windows Server 
System. They found that Windows offered 30% lower TCO, was more secure and 
reliable, and enabled quicker time to market. As BET.com's CTO, Navarrow 
Wright, said: "When I looked at all the costs - not just the straight price 
of software - a Windows Server System-based solution made better financial 
sense than sticking with our Sun and Oracle environment or switching to 
Linux. We decided to migrate the whole enterprise from various software 
vendors to standardize all of our software on Microsoft."

By implementing Windows Server 2003, Windows XP Professional, Office 
Professional Edition 2003, Exchange Server 2003, Content Management Server 
2003 and Visual Studio .NET 2003, BET.com conservatively estimated that its 
workforce will increase productivity by 25-30%, while saving significantly 
in licensing and redevelopment costs.

As organizations increasingly rely on IT to perform mission-critical 
functions, and with complexity a growing challenge, choosing the right 
computing platform for the long term can make the difference between profit 
and loss, and between future success and failure. And it's pretty clear that 
the facts show that Windows provides a lower total cost of ownership than 
Linux; the number of security vulnerabilities is lower on Windows, and 
Windows responsiveness on security is better than Linux; and Microsoft 
provides uncapped IP indemnification of their products, while no such 
comprehensive offering is available for Linux or open source.

The vision and benefits of an integrated platform are what distinguish 
Microsoft's approach to software. The Windows platform today offers an 
unmatched level of value, applications availability, simplicity, security 
and productivity. For Microsoft, this is truly a cross-company effort that 
requires the server and client operating systems to seamlessly deliver great 
usability and manageability features, applications that deliver compelling 
scenarios, and tools that enable developers and ISVs to easily and quickly 
build new applications on the platform.

It's important that customers have all the information they need when making 
critical and expensive IT decisions. If the evidence at our 
www.microsoft.com/getthefacts Web site doesn't sufficiently convey the 
benefits and value of the Microsoft platform, we want to hear from you so we 
can work even harder to get that information to you. If you would like to 
have a more detailed discussion about your company's IT needs, email Martin 
Taylor at martinta at microsoft.com.

Steve Ballmer

To contact Microsoft, write to us at One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Wash, 
98052. To manage your Microsoft.com subscriptions, please sign in at the 
Microsoft Profile Center here: http://g.microsoft.com/mh_mshp/48. To see the 
Microsoft.com Privacy Statement, please go to 
http://www.microsoft.com/info/privacy.mspx.



From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 28 03:26:13 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:26:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux and
	UNIX
In-Reply-To: <010d01c4bc9c$7aa1ca40$6701a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEIJCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Rocky:

Thanks for passing on the information. What I found most interesting, in the
article was:

<extract>
...All 14 companies said it was difficult finding qualified Linux personnel
in the marketplace to support their Linux projects. When they did find
third-party help, they had less leverage negotiating hourly rates than with
Windows consulting resources....
</extract>

That very comment makes me more interested in recommending and getting more
involved with Linux. The market is currently so saturated with Windows Techs
that the industry rate of pay is about $16.00 Canadian or $13.00 US per
hour...which is ridiculous... except for young individuals, still at home
with their folks. Being in a position to negotiate a fair wage package is
not a down-side as far as I am concerned.

That's my two cents.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:16 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux and
UNIX


Steve sent me this personal message.  Wanted me to know.  Thought you all
should as well.

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Ballmer" <steveballmer at ceo.microsoft.com>
To: <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:34 PM
Subject: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux and UNIX


In the thousands of meetings that Microsoft employees have with customers
around the world every day, many of the same questions consistently surface:
Does an open source platform really provide a long-term cost advantage
compared with Windows? Which platform offers the most secure computing
environment? Given the growing concern among customers about intellectual
property indemnification, what's the best way to minimize risk? In moving
from an expensive UNIX platform, what's the best alternative in terms of
migration?

Customers want factual information to help them make the best decisions
about these issues. About a year ago, a senior Microsoft team led by General
Manager Martin Taylor was created to figure out how we could do a better job
helping customers evaluate our products against alternatives such as
Linux/open source and proprietary UNIX. This team has worked with a number
of top analyst firms that have generated independent, third-party reports on
cost of acquisition, total cost of ownership, security and indemnification.
Some of the studies were commissioned by Microsoft, while others were
initiated and funded by the analysts. In each case, the research
methodology, findings and conclusions were the sole domain of the analyst
firms. This was essential: we wanted truly independent, factual information.

At the same time, our worldwide sales organization is going even deeper with
customers to understand their needs and create a feedback loop with our
product development teams that enables us to deliver integrated solutions
that support real-world customer scenarios, and comprehensively address
issues such as manageability, ease of use and reliability.

I'm writing to you and other business decision makers and IT professionals
today to share some of the data around these key issues - and to provide
examples of customers who opted to go with the Windows platform rather than
Linux or UNIX, and how that's playing out for them in the real world. Much
more information on this is at www.microsoft.com/getthefacts.

This email is one in an occasional series of emails from Microsoft
executives about technology and public-policy issues important to computer
users, our industry, and anyone who cares about the future of high
technology. If you would like to receive these emails in the future, please
go to
http://register.microsoft.com/subscription/subscribeMe.asp?lcid=1033&id=155
to subscribe.

TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP AND ACQUISITION COSTS

In the past few years, you haven't been able to open a computing magazine or
visit a technology Web site without running into an article about Linux and
open source. Not surprising: who doesn't like the idea of a "free" operating
system that just about anyone can tinker with?

But as the Yankee Group commented in an independent, non-sponsored global
study of 1,000 IT administrators and executives, Linux, UNIX and Windows TCO
Comparison, things aren't always as they seem: "All of the major Linux
vendors and distributors (including Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Novell [SUSE and
Ximian] and Red Hat) have begun charging hefty premiums for must-have items
such as technical service and support, product warranties and licensing
indemnification."

Yankee's study concluded that, in large enterprises, a significant Linux
deployment or total switch from Windows to Linux would be three to four
times more expensive - and take three times as long to deploy - as an
upgrade from one version of Windows to a newer release. And nine out of 10
enterprise customers said that such a change wouldn't provide any tangible
business gains.

Yankee also noted that, for larger organizations with complex computer
networks, it's important to look beyond Linux's initial low investment cost
and consider all of the TCO and ROI factors.

This is exactly what one of our large enterprise customers, Equifax, did
recently. Equifax, a $1.2 billion U.S.-based enterprise with 4,600 employees
in 13 countries, needed more computing power than its mainframe systems
could deliver for rapidly searching the company's vast marketing database.
They spent several months conducting an internal analysis, which proved
that, compared with Linux, Windows would realize a 14% cost savings and
shorten their time to market by six months. (Equifax Case Study -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15528)

Another comprehensive, non-sponsored study by Forrester, entitled The Costs
and Risks of Open Source, drew a similar conclusion: "The allure of free
software is accelerating the deployment of open source platforms, but open
source is not free and may actually increase financial and business risks."

In early 2004, Forrester conducted in-depth discussions with 14 companies
that had been running Linux platforms for longer than one year to see what
the costs really were. Several key themes emerged:

- Few companies know what they're really spending. Only five of the 14 kept
detailed metrics - and each of those five found Linux more expensive (5% to
20%) than their current Microsoft environments.

- Preparation and planning activities took 5% to 25% longer for Linux than
Windows.

- Training for IT employees was significantly higher for Linux than for
Windows - on average, 15% more expensive. The reasons: training materials
were less readily available, and customers spent more on training to
compensate for the lack of internal knowledge about Linux.

- All 14 companies said it was difficult finding qualified Linux personnel
in the marketplace to support their Linux projects. When they did find
third-party help, they had less leverage negotiating hourly rates than with
Windows consulting resources.

One of our mid-market customers, Computer Builders Warehouse (CBW), came to
a similar conclusion. CBW builds computers to order for education,
government, and corporate customers. Several years ago, it deployed Red Hat
and Mandrake versions of Linux to support its corporate, retail and
e-commerce applications. Challenged with high costs, CBW subsequently
migrated to Microsoft Windows Server System, and reduced its total cost of
ownership by 25 percent. It also consolidated its server population by 50
percent, reduced maintenance time by 50 percent, and boosted developer
productivity by 200 percent. These benefits - totaling $650,000 in savings -
are dwarfed by the millions of dollars in new revenue that CBW expects as a
result of bringing a key security and monitoring product to market more than
two years faster than it could have done using Linux. (CBW Case Study -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15131)

SECURITY

About three years ago, we made software security a top priority, and since
then we've invested heavily in a multi-pronged effort to improve software
quality and development processes, and to reduce risks for customers through
education and guidance, industry collaboration and enforcement. I think it's
fair to say that no other software platform has invested as much in security
R&D, process improvements and customer education as we have at Microsoft.

Still, Linux has often been touted as a more secure platform. In part, this
is because of the "many eyeballs" maxim of open source software that claims
a correlation between the number of developers looking at code and the
number of bugs found and resolved. While this has some validity, it is not
necessarily the best way to develop secure software. We believe in the
effectiveness of a structured software engineering process that includes a
deep focus on quality, technology advances, and vigorous testing to make
software more secure.

A number of third-party reports have questioned how safe the Linux platform
really is. For example, a recent independent study by Forrester, Is Linux
More Secure than Windows?, highlighted that the four major Linux
distributions have a higher incidence and severity of vulnerabilities, and
are slower than Microsoft to provide security updates.

According to Forrester, Microsoft had the lowest elapsed time between
disclosure of a vulnerability and the release of a fix. They found that
Microsoft addressed all of the 128 publicly disclosed security flaws in
Windows over the 12-month period studied, and that its security updates
predated major outbreaks by an average of 305 days.

Other independent sources of data show similar conclusions. According to
statistics posted on the security Web site Secunia
(http://secunia.com/product/2535#statistics_month), Red Hat Enterprise Linux
3 has averaged 7.4 security advisories per month, compared with 1.7
advisories for Windows Server 2003.

And as Yankee Group noted in its Linux, UNIX and Windows TCO Comparison
study, "Linux-specific worms and viruses are every bit as pernicious as
their UNIX and Windows counterparts - and in many cases they are much more
stealthy."

This was a deciding factor in farmaCity's selection of Windows over Linux.
Headquartered in Buenos Aires, farmaCity is a rapidly growing Argentinian
drugstore chain with 50 outlets and 1,200 employees. Although farmaCity's
growth in recent years was a testament to its success, the company's aging
technology infrastructure had become a hindrance to further expansion. After
careful analysis, farmaCity concluded that Windows would reduce network
administration by 30 percent compared with Linux, and would also simplify
identity and desktop management. But the core reason for selecting Microsoft
was the increase in network security, complemented by the ability to reduce
patch-deployment time by 50 percent while cutting unsolicited e-mail by
half. (farmaCity Case Study -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15269)

INDEMNIFICATION

Increasingly, we're hearing from customers that another factor in their
consideration of computing platforms is indemnification. In 2003, we looked
at our volume licensing contracts to see what we could do to increase
customer satisfaction, and a top issue we heard about was patent
indemnification, which then was capped at the amount the customer had paid
for the software. So later that year, we lifted that cap for our volume
licensing customers, who are most likely to be the target of an intellectual
property lawsuit.

Today, when a volume licensing customer - a business or organization ranging
from as few as five computers to many thousands - licenses a Microsoft
product, we provide uncapped protection for legal costs associated with a
patent, copyright, trademark or trade secret claim alleging infringement by
a Microsoft product. We do this because we are proud to stand behind our
products, and because we understand that being on the wrong end of a
software patent lawsuit could cost a customer millions of dollars, and
massively disrupt their business.

No vendor today stands behind Linux with full IP indemnification. In fact,
it is rare for open source software to provide customers with any
indemnification at all. We think Microsoft's indemnification already is one
of the best offered by the leading players in the industry for volume
licensing customers, and we're looking at ways to expand it to an even
broader set of our customers. It's definitely something businesses want to
think about as they're building or expanding their IT infrastructure.

It was certainly a factor for Regal Entertainment Group, the largest movie
theatre chain in the world. In 2001, they moved to Red Hat Linux. After
evaluating Linux in their business for several months, however, they
migrated to the Microsoft platform - not only because of lower TCO, stronger
support and services, and greater reliability and manageability, but because
they were more fully indemnified on IP. J.E. Henry, CIO of Regal
Entertainment, told me that "reduced risk was a decision factor in selecting
Windows over Linux. We needed to minimize our exposure to the distraction of
potential IP infringement claims, and we had a big enough open source
presence to be concerned. With the way that Microsoft stands behind its
products, it's one less thing that I have to worry about."

UNIX MIGRATION

One of the hot topics among enterprise IT and business decision makers today
is the costs and benefits of migrating enterprise resource planning systems
(ERP) from costly, proprietary UNIX environments to Windows or other
platforms. ERP integrates various company functions such as human resources,
inventories and financials, and links a company to its vendors and
customers.

An independent, qualitative survey of organizations that recently completed
a migration of their SAP or PeopleSoft ERP system from a UNIX environment to
the Microsoft Windows Server platform found a more than 20% reduction in the
number of servers required compared with UNIX. The survey, by META Group,
found that in one large telecommunications company, consolidation on Windows
allowed a greater than 50 percent reduction in the number of required
servers.

The survey also found a more than 50 percent improvement in areas such as
reliability, accessibility and scalability; significant savings in cost
management, IT staffing, performance monitoring and vendor management; and
measurable savings in technical support and training. More than half of
business function decision makers also saw significant improvements in areas
such as consistency, accuracy, reporting enhancement and performance.

"Windows is now a mainstream option for the vast majority of ERP projects,"
META Group concluded.

A great case study is the Raiffeisen Bank Group, the largest private bank
group in Austria with about 2,600 branches. It wanted to reduce costs and
provide better customer service by consolidating the number of servers in
its branches by 50 percent. Raiffeisen investigated migrating from UNIX to
either Linux or Windows. After evaluating the possible solutions, the
company found that Windows Server 2003 would provide the most economical
solution along with better performance, while giving bank employees an
integrated view of customer information that they needed to improve customer
service. (Raiffeisen Bank Group Case Study -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15519)

One of our mid-market customers had a similar experience. Grand Expeditions
is a consortium of luxury travel companies that significantly reduced its
Web development and hosting costs, and improved site reliability and
performance, by moving from a combination of Linux- and UNIX-based servers
to Windows Server 2003 and the Windows Server System. The new system was up
and running in just 60 days, and is saving Grand Expeditions $200,000 a
year. (Grand Expeditions Case Study -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15397)

IN CLOSING...

There is no question that customers are benefiting today from a healthy,
competitive IT industry. Competition requires companies to really focus in
on what customers want and need. At the same time, customers have a clearer
opportunity than ever before to evaluate choices.

For example, BET.com, the Internet portal created by Viacom subsidiary BET
Networks, did an in-depth comparison of Red Hat Linux and Windows Server
System. They found that Windows offered 30% lower TCO, was more secure and
reliable, and enabled quicker time to market. As BET.com's CTO, Navarrow
Wright, said: "When I looked at all the costs - not just the straight price
of software - a Windows Server System-based solution made better financial
sense than sticking with our Sun and Oracle environment or switching to
Linux. We decided to migrate the whole enterprise from various software
vendors to standardize all of our software on Microsoft."

By implementing Windows Server 2003, Windows XP Professional, Office
Professional Edition 2003, Exchange Server 2003, Content Management Server
2003 and Visual Studio .NET 2003, BET.com conservatively estimated that its
workforce will increase productivity by 25-30%, while saving significantly
in licensing and redevelopment costs.

As organizations increasingly rely on IT to perform mission-critical
functions, and with complexity a growing challenge, choosing the right
computing platform for the long term can make the difference between profit
and loss, and between future success and failure. And it's pretty clear that
the facts show that Windows provides a lower total cost of ownership than
Linux; the number of security vulnerabilities is lower on Windows, and
Windows responsiveness on security is better than Linux; and Microsoft
provides uncapped IP indemnification of their products, while no such
comprehensive offering is available for Linux or open source.

The vision and benefits of an integrated platform are what distinguish
Microsoft's approach to software. The Windows platform today offers an
unmatched level of value, applications availability, simplicity, security
and productivity. For Microsoft, this is truly a cross-company effort that
requires the server and client operating systems to seamlessly deliver great
usability and manageability features, applications that deliver compelling
scenarios, and tools that enable developers and ISVs to easily and quickly
build new applications on the platform.

It's important that customers have all the information they need when making
critical and expensive IT decisions. If the evidence at our
www.microsoft.com/getthefacts Web site doesn't sufficiently convey the
benefits and value of the Microsoft platform, we want to hear from you so we
can work even harder to get that information to you. If you would like to
have a more detailed discussion about your company's IT needs, email Martin
Taylor at martinta at microsoft.com.

Steve Ballmer

To contact Microsoft, write to us at One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Wash,
98052. To manage your Microsoft.com subscriptions, please sign in at the
Microsoft Profile Center here: http://g.microsoft.com/mh_mshp/48. To see the
Microsoft.com Privacy Statement, please go to
http://www.microsoft.com/info/privacy.mspx.

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 28 04:39:02 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:39:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Animation e.g. gif?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041027130404.01381e00@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <20041028093902.32468.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com>

:-)
 
you should see this app! Here's a nice example:
 ''Added 17-05-2002, Star Wars 2: Attack of the Clones premier day!
Go figure...but we all have to start somewhere.
 
However I do not think that an hourglass gif for a very long proces is a 'childish look'.
 
thnks anyway


"Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net> wrote:
Sander,

Access is a database program, not a tinker toy graphics
program.

The simple answer is "no."

The complex answer is:

If you want to slow the form to a crawl and give it an
unprofessional, childish look, you can use the timer
event to make things happen on the form that looks
like animation.

Access simply does not have the event model to do it.

Hummm, did my prejudice about Mickey Mouse design
show????

Robert

At 12:00 PM 10/27/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:03:38 -0700 (PDT)
>From: S D 
>Subject: [AccessD] Animation e.g. gif?
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Message-ID: <20041027130338.31864.qmail at web61110.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Hi group,
>
>is it possible to add an animation to my Acces form with STANDARD Access 
>2000 controls?
>
>And I mean STANDARD! No, dll's or anything like it.
>
>Tia.
>Sander


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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 28 04:54:37 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:54:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging + UpdateBatch?
Message-ID: <20041028095437.20417.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I've got a A2K (that needs to migrate to XP) app that needs to import a flatfile.
A 267kb file takes about 25-28 HOURS(!!) to proces. Yes, it's a slow network.
I need to improve this.
This is how it 'works' now:
1 - read the file on the network to determine the number of lines
2 - start a for x=0 to NumberOfLines loop
3 - check the first x characters in the line
4 - create a new record in a table (table depends on step 3, there are 5 different tables to store the records)
5 - execute an update
6 - goto the next record
 
Here's how I want to do it:
1 - copy the file from the network to the desktop
2 - import the complete file in a staging table
3 - Use an UpdateBatch mechanisme to update the BE.
 
Question:
How can i implement this UpdateBatch? I mean I have to store the records for each table 
and after the complete file is processed I want to update all tables.
 
Question:
I need to implement a transaction. If the processing failes somewhere I need to rollback the changes (if I use an updatebatch this is probably not necesseray but it's good programming I think)
 
any tips/advice is greatly appreciated!!
 
Regards,
 
Sander

		
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 28 05:18:31 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:18:31 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging +
	UpdateBatch?
In-Reply-To: <20041028095437.20417.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041028095437.20417.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <19614813350.20041028121831@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

First, reading a 0,25 MB file off the network should be fast, no need
to copy the file first. But that is easy to test ... just try with a
local copy.

Second, you can read the file directly with a query as you did for
exporting.
Then use this query as the source for three append queries, one for
each table. Further, this step you can wrap in a
BeginTrans/CommitTrans to give you the option of rolling back.

/gustav


> Hi group,
 
> I've got a A2K (that needs to migrate to XP) app that needs to import a flatfile.
> A 267kb file takes about 25-28 HOURS(!!) to proces. Yes, it's a slow network.
> I need to improve this.
> This is how it 'works' now:
> 1 - read the file on the network to determine the number of lines
> 2 - start a for x=0 to NumberOfLines loop
> 3 - check the first x characters in the line
> 4 - create a new record in a table (table depends on step 3, there are 5 different tables to store the records)
> 5 - execute an update
> 6 - goto the next record
 
> Here's how I want to do it:
> 1 - copy the file from the network to the desktop
> 2 - import the complete file in a staging table
> 3 - Use an UpdateBatch mechanisme to update the BE.
 
> Question:
> How can i implement this UpdateBatch? I mean I have to store the records for each table 
> and after the complete file is processed I want to update all tables.
 
> Question:
> I need to implement a transaction. If the processing failes somewhere I need to rollback the changes (if I use an updatebatch this is probably not necesseray but it's good programming I think)
 
> any tips/advice is greatly appreciated!!
 
> Regards,
 
> Sander



From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 28 08:24:35 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:24:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging +
	UpdateBatch?
In-Reply-To: <20041028095437.20417.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEILCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Sander:

I was working on a contract to roll-out an update inventory database, for a
number of stores, this summer. The system had each computer, with it's own
full database, which could be fully independent (in the event of a
catastrophic failure on the LAN, the POS system had to run). After the
database was rebuilt on the server, it was then transferred to each station
across the LAN. The late-night process could take 20 to 30 minutes per
station. Given that some sites had ten terminals the process would have been
very time-consuming.

We sped the process by zipping the master DB and then broadcasting the
result. It would now only take three minutes per station, as the database
and in your case, a flat-file, compress down very nicely.

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:55 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging +
UpdateBatch?


Hi group,

I've got a A2K (that needs to migrate to XP) app that needs to import a
flatfile.
A 267kb file takes about 25-28 HOURS(!!) to proces. Yes, it's a slow
network.
I need to improve this.
This is how it 'works' now:
1 - read the file on the network to determine the number of lines
2 - start a for x=0 to NumberOfLines loop
3 - check the first x characters in the line
4 - create a new record in a table (table depends on step 3, there are 5
different tables to store the records)
5 - execute an update
6 - goto the next record

Here's how I want to do it:
1 - copy the file from the network to the desktop
2 - import the complete file in a staging table
3 - Use an UpdateBatch mechanisme to update the BE.

Question:
How can i implement this UpdateBatch? I mean I have to store the records for
each table
and after the complete file is processed I want to update all tables.

Question:
I need to implement a transaction. If the processing failes somewhere I need
to rollback the changes (if I use an updatebatch this is probably not
necesseray but it's good programming I think)

any tips/advice is greatly appreciated!!

Regards,

Sander


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From JColby at dispec.com  Thu Oct 28 08:38:58 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:38:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux an
	d UNIX
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF941@DISABILITYINS01>

Rocky,

I invited Steve to dinner this weekend to discuss just this issue.  He says
Bill wants to come as well, and he specifically asked if you would be there.
Can you make it?  It'll be Saturday night, 8:00 pm.  Plan on a late night,
you know how these guys can gab.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:16 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux and
UNIX


Steve sent me this personal message.  Wanted me to know.  Thought you all 
should as well.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Ballmer" <steveballmer at ceo.microsoft.com>
To: <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:34 PM
Subject: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux and UNIX


In the thousands of meetings that Microsoft employees have with customers 
around the world every day, many of the same questions consistently surface:

Does an open source platform really provide a long-term cost advantage 
compared with Windows? Which platform offers the most secure computing 
environment? Given the growing concern among customers about intellectual 
property indemnification, what's the best way to minimize risk? In moving 
from an expensive UNIX platform, what's the best alternative in terms of 
migration?

Customers want factual information to help them make the best decisions 
about these issues. About a year ago, a senior Microsoft team led by General

Manager Martin Taylor was created to figure out how we could do a better job

helping customers evaluate our products against alternatives such as 
Linux/open source and proprietary UNIX. This team has worked with a number 
of top analyst firms that have generated independent, third-party reports on

cost of acquisition, total cost of ownership, security and indemnification. 
Some of the studies were commissioned by Microsoft, while others were 
initiated and funded by the analysts. In each case, the research 
methodology, findings and conclusions were the sole domain of the analyst 
firms. This was essential: we wanted truly independent, factual information.

At the same time, our worldwide sales organization is going even deeper with

customers to understand their needs and create a feedback loop with our 
product development teams that enables us to deliver integrated solutions 
that support real-world customer scenarios, and comprehensively address 
issues such as manageability, ease of use and reliability.

I'm writing to you and other business decision makers and IT professionals 
today to share some of the data around these key issues - and to provide 
examples of customers who opted to go with the Windows platform rather than 
Linux or UNIX, and how that's playing out for them in the real world. Much 
more information on this is at www.microsoft.com/getthefacts.

This email is one in an occasional series of emails from Microsoft 
executives about technology and public-policy issues important to computer 
users, our industry, and anyone who cares about the future of high 
technology. If you would like to receive these emails in the future, please 
go to 
http://register.microsoft.com/subscription/subscribeMe.asp?lcid=1033&id=155 
to subscribe.

TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP AND ACQUISITION COSTS

In the past few years, you haven't been able to open a computing magazine or

visit a technology Web site without running into an article about Linux and 
open source. Not surprising: who doesn't like the idea of a "free" operating

system that just about anyone can tinker with?

But as the Yankee Group commented in an independent, non-sponsored global 
study of 1,000 IT administrators and executives, Linux, UNIX and Windows TCO

Comparison, things aren't always as they seem: "All of the major Linux 
vendors and distributors (including Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Novell [SUSE and 
Ximian] and Red Hat) have begun charging hefty premiums for must-have items 
such as technical service and support, product warranties and licensing 
indemnification."

Yankee's study concluded that, in large enterprises, a significant Linux 
deployment or total switch from Windows to Linux would be three to four 
times more expensive - and take three times as long to deploy - as an 
upgrade from one version of Windows to a newer release. And nine out of 10 
enterprise customers said that such a change wouldn't provide any tangible 
business gains.

Yankee also noted that, for larger organizations with complex computer 
networks, it's important to look beyond Linux's initial low investment cost 
and consider all of the TCO and ROI factors.

This is exactly what one of our large enterprise customers, Equifax, did 
recently. Equifax, a $1.2 billion U.S.-based enterprise with 4,600 employees

in 13 countries, needed more computing power than its mainframe systems 
could deliver for rapidly searching the company's vast marketing database. 
They spent several months conducting an internal analysis, which proved 
that, compared with Linux, Windows would realize a 14% cost savings and 
shorten their time to market by six months. (Equifax Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15528)

Another comprehensive, non-sponsored study by Forrester, entitled The Costs 
and Risks of Open Source, drew a similar conclusion: "The allure of free 
software is accelerating the deployment of open source platforms, but open 
source is not free and may actually increase financial and business risks."

In early 2004, Forrester conducted in-depth discussions with 14 companies 
that had been running Linux platforms for longer than one year to see what 
the costs really were. Several key themes emerged:

- Few companies know what they're really spending. Only five of the 14 kept 
detailed metrics - and each of those five found Linux more expensive (5% to 
20%) than their current Microsoft environments.

- Preparation and planning activities took 5% to 25% longer for Linux than 
Windows.

- Training for IT employees was significantly higher for Linux than for 
Windows - on average, 15% more expensive. The reasons: training materials 
were less readily available, and customers spent more on training to 
compensate for the lack of internal knowledge about Linux.

- All 14 companies said it was difficult finding qualified Linux personnel 
in the marketplace to support their Linux projects. When they did find 
third-party help, they had less leverage negotiating hourly rates than with 
Windows consulting resources.

One of our mid-market customers, Computer Builders Warehouse (CBW), came to 
a similar conclusion. CBW builds computers to order for education, 
government, and corporate customers. Several years ago, it deployed Red Hat 
and Mandrake versions of Linux to support its corporate, retail and 
e-commerce applications. Challenged with high costs, CBW subsequently 
migrated to Microsoft Windows Server System, and reduced its total cost of 
ownership by 25 percent. It also consolidated its server population by 50 
percent, reduced maintenance time by 50 percent, and boosted developer 
productivity by 200 percent. These benefits - totaling $650,000 in savings -

are dwarfed by the millions of dollars in new revenue that CBW expects as a 
result of bringing a key security and monitoring product to market more than

two years faster than it could have done using Linux. (CBW Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15131)

SECURITY

About three years ago, we made software security a top priority, and since 
then we've invested heavily in a multi-pronged effort to improve software 
quality and development processes, and to reduce risks for customers through

education and guidance, industry collaboration and enforcement. I think it's

fair to say that no other software platform has invested as much in security

R&D, process improvements and customer education as we have at Microsoft.

Still, Linux has often been touted as a more secure platform. In part, this 
is because of the "many eyeballs" maxim of open source software that claims 
a correlation between the number of developers looking at code and the 
number of bugs found and resolved. While this has some validity, it is not 
necessarily the best way to develop secure software. We believe in the 
effectiveness of a structured software engineering process that includes a 
deep focus on quality, technology advances, and vigorous testing to make 
software more secure.

A number of third-party reports have questioned how safe the Linux platform 
really is. For example, a recent independent study by Forrester, Is Linux 
More Secure than Windows?, highlighted that the four major Linux 
distributions have a higher incidence and severity of vulnerabilities, and 
are slower than Microsoft to provide security updates.

According to Forrester, Microsoft had the lowest elapsed time between 
disclosure of a vulnerability and the release of a fix. They found that 
Microsoft addressed all of the 128 publicly disclosed security flaws in 
Windows over the 12-month period studied, and that its security updates 
predated major outbreaks by an average of 305 days.

Other independent sources of data show similar conclusions. According to 
statistics posted on the security Web site Secunia 
(http://secunia.com/product/2535#statistics_month), Red Hat Enterprise Linux

3 has averaged 7.4 security advisories per month, compared with 1.7 
advisories for Windows Server 2003.

And as Yankee Group noted in its Linux, UNIX and Windows TCO Comparison 
study, "Linux-specific worms and viruses are every bit as pernicious as 
their UNIX and Windows counterparts - and in many cases they are much more 
stealthy."

This was a deciding factor in farmaCity's selection of Windows over Linux. 
Headquartered in Buenos Aires, farmaCity is a rapidly growing Argentinian 
drugstore chain with 50 outlets and 1,200 employees. Although farmaCity's 
growth in recent years was a testament to its success, the company's aging 
technology infrastructure had become a hindrance to further expansion. After

careful analysis, farmaCity concluded that Windows would reduce network 
administration by 30 percent compared with Linux, and would also simplify 
identity and desktop management. But the core reason for selecting Microsoft

was the increase in network security, complemented by the ability to reduce 
patch-deployment time by 50 percent while cutting unsolicited e-mail by 
half. (farmaCity Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15269)

INDEMNIFICATION

Increasingly, we're hearing from customers that another factor in their 
consideration of computing platforms is indemnification. In 2003, we looked 
at our volume licensing contracts to see what we could do to increase 
customer satisfaction, and a top issue we heard about was patent 
indemnification, which then was capped at the amount the customer had paid 
for the software. So later that year, we lifted that cap for our volume 
licensing customers, who are most likely to be the target of an intellectual

property lawsuit.

Today, when a volume licensing customer - a business or organization ranging

from as few as five computers to many thousands - licenses a Microsoft 
product, we provide uncapped protection for legal costs associated with a 
patent, copyright, trademark or trade secret claim alleging infringement by 
a Microsoft product. We do this because we are proud to stand behind our 
products, and because we understand that being on the wrong end of a 
software patent lawsuit could cost a customer millions of dollars, and 
massively disrupt their business.

No vendor today stands behind Linux with full IP indemnification. In fact, 
it is rare for open source software to provide customers with any 
indemnification at all. We think Microsoft's indemnification already is one 
of the best offered by the leading players in the industry for volume 
licensing customers, and we're looking at ways to expand it to an even 
broader set of our customers. It's definitely something businesses want to 
think about as they're building or expanding their IT infrastructure.

It was certainly a factor for Regal Entertainment Group, the largest movie 
theatre chain in the world. In 2001, they moved to Red Hat Linux. After 
evaluating Linux in their business for several months, however, they 
migrated to the Microsoft platform - not only because of lower TCO, stronger

support and services, and greater reliability and manageability, but because

they were more fully indemnified on IP. J.E. Henry, CIO of Regal 
Entertainment, told me that "reduced risk was a decision factor in selecting

Windows over Linux. We needed to minimize our exposure to the distraction of

potential IP infringement claims, and we had a big enough open source 
presence to be concerned. With the way that Microsoft stands behind its 
products, it's one less thing that I have to worry about."

UNIX MIGRATION

One of the hot topics among enterprise IT and business decision makers today

is the costs and benefits of migrating enterprise resource planning systems 
(ERP) from costly, proprietary UNIX environments to Windows or other 
platforms. ERP integrates various company functions such as human resources,

inventories and financials, and links a company to its vendors and 
customers.

An independent, qualitative survey of organizations that recently completed 
a migration of their SAP or PeopleSoft ERP system from a UNIX environment to

the Microsoft Windows Server platform found a more than 20% reduction in the

number of servers required compared with UNIX. The survey, by META Group, 
found that in one large telecommunications company, consolidation on Windows

allowed a greater than 50 percent reduction in the number of required 
servers.

The survey also found a more than 50 percent improvement in areas such as 
reliability, accessibility and scalability; significant savings in cost 
management, IT staffing, performance monitoring and vendor management; and 
measurable savings in technical support and training. More than half of 
business function decision makers also saw significant improvements in areas

such as consistency, accuracy, reporting enhancement and performance.

"Windows is now a mainstream option for the vast majority of ERP projects," 
META Group concluded.

A great case study is the Raiffeisen Bank Group, the largest private bank 
group in Austria with about 2,600 branches. It wanted to reduce costs and 
provide better customer service by consolidating the number of servers in 
its branches by 50 percent. Raiffeisen investigated migrating from UNIX to 
either Linux or Windows. After evaluating the possible solutions, the 
company found that Windows Server 2003 would provide the most economical 
solution along with better performance, while giving bank employees an 
integrated view of customer information that they needed to improve customer

service. (Raiffeisen Bank Group Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15519)

One of our mid-market customers had a similar experience. Grand Expeditions 
is a consortium of luxury travel companies that significantly reduced its 
Web development and hosting costs, and improved site reliability and 
performance, by moving from a combination of Linux- and UNIX-based servers 
to Windows Server 2003 and the Windows Server System. The new system was up 
and running in just 60 days, and is saving Grand Expeditions $200,000 a 
year. (Grand Expeditions Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15397)

IN CLOSING...

There is no question that customers are benefiting today from a healthy, 
competitive IT industry. Competition requires companies to really focus in 
on what customers want and need. At the same time, customers have a clearer 
opportunity than ever before to evaluate choices.

For example, BET.com, the Internet portal created by Viacom subsidiary BET 
Networks, did an in-depth comparison of Red Hat Linux and Windows Server 
System. They found that Windows offered 30% lower TCO, was more secure and 
reliable, and enabled quicker time to market. As BET.com's CTO, Navarrow 
Wright, said: "When I looked at all the costs - not just the straight price 
of software - a Windows Server System-based solution made better financial 
sense than sticking with our Sun and Oracle environment or switching to 
Linux. We decided to migrate the whole enterprise from various software 
vendors to standardize all of our software on Microsoft."

By implementing Windows Server 2003, Windows XP Professional, Office 
Professional Edition 2003, Exchange Server 2003, Content Management Server 
2003 and Visual Studio .NET 2003, BET.com conservatively estimated that its 
workforce will increase productivity by 25-30%, while saving significantly 
in licensing and redevelopment costs.

As organizations increasingly rely on IT to perform mission-critical 
functions, and with complexity a growing challenge, choosing the right 
computing platform for the long term can make the difference between profit 
and loss, and between future success and failure. And it's pretty clear that

the facts show that Windows provides a lower total cost of ownership than 
Linux; the number of security vulnerabilities is lower on Windows, and 
Windows responsiveness on security is better than Linux; and Microsoft 
provides uncapped IP indemnification of their products, while no such 
comprehensive offering is available for Linux or open source.

The vision and benefits of an integrated platform are what distinguish 
Microsoft's approach to software. The Windows platform today offers an 
unmatched level of value, applications availability, simplicity, security 
and productivity. For Microsoft, this is truly a cross-company effort that 
requires the server and client operating systems to seamlessly deliver great

usability and manageability features, applications that deliver compelling 
scenarios, and tools that enable developers and ISVs to easily and quickly 
build new applications on the platform.

It's important that customers have all the information they need when making

critical and expensive IT decisions. If the evidence at our 
www.microsoft.com/getthefacts Web site doesn't sufficiently convey the 
benefits and value of the Microsoft platform, we want to hear from you so we

can work even harder to get that information to you. If you would like to 
have a more detailed discussion about your company's IT needs, email Martin 
Taylor at martinta at microsoft.com.

Steve Ballmer

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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Oct 28 13:43:14 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:43:14 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF7370@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <003701c4bd27$ec0f5ae0$f5c581d5@pedro>

Hello All,

thanks for your reply.
You maybe missunderstood my question.
I already work with barcodes for years.
They don't have that many secrets for me.

I asked for help on a database for Stock managment,
for examples of such a database.

Pedro Janssen




----- Original Message -----
From: "Erwin Craps - IT Helps" <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment


> The  in-between-keyboard barcodescanner only works with PS2 type of
> keyboards.
> Some brand are migrating to USB connector keyboards.
>
> The in-between-keyboard barcodescanner does not work when no PS2
> keyboard is connected.
>
> Erwin
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Colby, John
> Verzonden: woensdag 27 oktober 2004 16:07
> Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
>
> >The barcode reader we purchased acted like any input device.  Whatever
> field the cursor is in, is where the data is placed.
>
> You might want to go with a serial port reader (or usb port these
> days?).
>
> The alternative as a "keyboard wedge" type (sits between the keyboard
> and PC, inserting the data right into the keyboard stream).  These cause
> problems.
>
> The reason is that with the serial port readers you have control over
> where and when you read the bar code.  I have used both and, users being
> users, when you use the "keyboard wedge", you ALWAYS end up with garbage
> in word documents, excel documents, the wrong form etc.  Basically the
> user forgets to go to the right place before scanning and they corrupt
> whatever data they the insertion pointer (cursor / focus) is currently
> on.
>
> The serial port type is more difficult to get set up since you have to
> use a serial port control (comes with vba), but once set up you can turn
> on / off the reader (or more correctly the serial port)
> programmatically, thus controlling when the user can scan data.
>
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:44 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
>
>
>
> A couple of years ago, we wanted to use barcodes for specimens used in
> evaluating inspectors.
> After much research on the code to generate the barcode, we purchased a
> barcode reader.
> After we purchased the barcode reader, we realized how simple it was.
> The barcode reader came with the code to generate the barcode and
> instructions on how to scan the items.
> In hindsight, we should have bought the barcode reader first, then if
> needed, do the research to generate the barcode.
> My recommendation is to decide which barcode reader you want to use
> first.
> The information that comes with the barcode reader might just have all
> the information you need.
> In Access the easiest barcode to use is called Code 39, which is easily
> downloaded as a font. As a font, it can be used for any alphanumeric
> character and can be printed on labels, forms, etc.
>
> The barcode reader we purchased acted like any input device.  Whatever
> field the cursor is in, is where the data is placed.
>
> HTH
> Jim H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of pedro at plex.nl
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:38 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
>
>
> Hello group,
>
> who can point me in the right direction on the development of a database
> where i use barcode with: In Stock managment.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pedro Janssen
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 28 15:02:35 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:02:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging +
	UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <19614813350.20041028121831@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041028200235.33860.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>

Jim, Gustav,
 
thnx for the replies.
However, while I was 'fondeling' around I was looking at the code, network stats, doing some prototyping I came up with the following.
Load the file (wich I first copied to the desktop) in an array;
then I opened 3 rsts
Then I loop-ed through the file until the UBOUND(array) was found
  did a addnew + update after each found 'tag'
exited the loop,
closed the rsts
and voila! Remember the 25 hours.....how about 3 seconds!!!
Then I skipped the copying part and left the file on the network, still 14 seconds. Maybe it can be done faster but I think a 50,000% performance improvement will do just fine :-)
 
The problem was that the 'programmer' that designed and build the app did the following:
While looping through the file he opened and closed a recordset every time he found a 'tag' So that could be about 5500 times! Over a slow novell network using a 800Mb Fe-Be app....
 
Well it works. Now all I have to do is create the transaction thingy Gustav said. Just read about it in the bible...aka ADHB2K by litwin, gilbert and getz...get it ;-) Sjee, it's getting a bit late.
 
Sander
 
Hi Sander:

I was working on a contract to roll-out an update inventory database, 
for a
number of stores, this summer. The system had each computer, with it's 
own
full database, which could be fully independent (in the event of a
catastrophic failure on the LAN, the POS system had to run). After the
database was rebuilt on the server, it was then transferred to each 
station
across the LAN. The late-night process could take 20 to 30 minutes per
station. Given that some sites had ten terminals the process would have 
been
very time-consuming.

We sped the process by zipping the master DB and then broadcasting the
result. It would now only take three minutes per station, as the 
database
and in your case, a flat-file, compress down very nicely.

HTH
Jim


Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:Hi Sander

First, reading a 0,25 MB file off the network should be fast, no need
to copy the file first. But that is easy to test ... just try with a
local copy.

Second, you can read the file directly with a query as you did for
exporting.
Then use this query as the source for three append queries, one for
each table. Further, this step you can wrap in a
BeginTrans/CommitTrans to give you the option of rolling back.

/gustav


> Hi group,

> I've got a A2K (that needs to migrate to XP) app that needs to import a flatfile.
> A 267kb file takes about 25-28 HOURS(!!) to proces. Yes, it's a slow network.
> I need to improve this.
> This is how it 'works' now:
> 1 - read the file on the network to determine the number of lines
> 2 - start a for x=0 to NumberOfLines loop
> 3 - check the first x characters in the line
> 4 - create a new record in a table (table depends on step 3, there are 5 different tables to store the records)
> 5 - execute an update
> 6 - goto the next record

> Here's how I want to do it:
> 1 - copy the file from the network to the desktop
> 2 - import the complete file in a staging table
> 3 - Use an UpdateBatch mechanisme to update the BE.

> Question:
> How can i implement this UpdateBatch? I mean I have to store the records for each table 
> and after the complete file is processed I want to update all tables.

> Question:
> I need to implement a transaction. If the processing failes somewhere I need to rollback the changes (if I use an updatebatch this is probably not necesseray but it's good programming I think)

> any tips/advice is greatly appreciated!!

> Regards,

> Sander

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Oct 28 15:22:21 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:22:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Access with a MySQL database
In-Reply-To: <200410280955.i9S9tsL27348@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041028151929.049a6780@pop3.highstream.net>

Barb,

That is what I figured.  The only thing you need to
watch out for when creating recordsets in code is
in the db.openrecordset.  On the end of it, you
need to add dbseechanges.  If you will change
the queries to views as you can, you will also get
better performance.  But, essentially, you can
almost do nothing to the front-end and make the
change over to SQL Server.

Robert

At 04:55 AM 10/28/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:49:10 -0400
>From: "Barbara Ryan" <BarbaraRyan at cox.net>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Access with a MySQL database
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <002101c4bc55$a5ac6fc0$0a00a8c0 at cx470148a>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>That's good news (regarding Microsoft SQL) --- they currently are using
>Access 97, but are converting to XP in the near future, so looks like
>they'll have it.   I don't think that they will have more than 10 users.
>
>Barb
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Cc: <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:20 PM
>Subject: [AccessD] Re: Access with a MySQL database
>
>
> > If they have Office 2000 or higher, they have SQL Server in the MSDE.
> > It is good for up to 10 concurrent users.
> >
> > My SQL does not support stored procedures, views, or referential
> > integrity.  SQL Server, even the MSDE, does.
> >
> > Robert




From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 28 16:39:04 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:39:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging +UpdateBatch?
	*SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <20041028200235.33860.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEIOCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Sanders:

That is great and the solution was very creative. A code sample would be in
order...

Excellent solution.
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging
+UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*


Jim, Gustav,

thnx for the replies.
However, while I was 'fondeling' around I was looking at the code, network
stats, doing some prototyping I came up with the following.
Load the file (wich I first copied to the desktop) in an array;
then I opened 3 rsts
Then I loop-ed through the file until the UBOUND(array) was found
  did a addnew + update after each found 'tag'
exited the loop,
closed the rsts
and voila! Remember the 25 hours.....how about 3 seconds!!!
Then I skipped the copying part and left the file on the network, still 14
seconds. Maybe it can be done faster but I think a 50,000% performance
improvement will do just fine :-)

The problem was that the 'programmer' that designed and build the app did
the following:
While looping through the file he opened and closed a recordset every time
he found a 'tag' So that could be about 5500 times! Over a slow novell
network using a 800Mb Fe-Be app....

Well it works. Now all I have to do is create the transaction thingy Gustav
said. Just read about it in the bible...aka ADHB2K by litwin, gilbert and
getz...get it ;-) Sjee, it's getting a bit late.

Sander

Hi Sander:

I was working on a contract to roll-out an update inventory database,
for a
number of stores, this summer. The system had each computer, with it's
own
full database, which could be fully independent (in the event of a
catastrophic failure on the LAN, the POS system had to run). After the
database was rebuilt on the server, it was then transferred to each
station
across the LAN. The late-night process could take 20 to 30 minutes per
station. Given that some sites had ten terminals the process would have
been
very time-consuming.

We sped the process by zipping the master DB and then broadcasting the
result. It would now only take three minutes per station, as the
database
and in your case, a flat-file, compress down very nicely.

HTH
Jim


Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:Hi Sander

First, reading a 0,25 MB file off the network should be fast, no need
to copy the file first. But that is easy to test ... just try with a
local copy.

Second, you can read the file directly with a query as you did for
exporting.
Then use this query as the source for three append queries, one for
each table. Further, this step you can wrap in a
BeginTrans/CommitTrans to give you the option of rolling back.

/gustav


> Hi group,

> I've got a A2K (that needs to migrate to XP) app that needs to import a
flatfile.
> A 267kb file takes about 25-28 HOURS(!!) to proces. Yes, it's a slow
network.
> I need to improve this.
> This is how it 'works' now:
> 1 - read the file on the network to determine the number of lines
> 2 - start a for x=0 to NumberOfLines loop
> 3 - check the first x characters in the line
> 4 - create a new record in a table (table depends on step 3, there are 5
different tables to store the records)
> 5 - execute an update
> 6 - goto the next record

> Here's how I want to do it:
> 1 - copy the file from the network to the desktop
> 2 - import the complete file in a staging table
> 3 - Use an UpdateBatch mechanisme to update the BE.

> Question:
> How can i implement this UpdateBatch? I mean I have to store the records
for each table
> and after the complete file is processed I want to update all tables.

> Question:
> I need to implement a transaction. If the processing failes somewhere I
need to rollback the changes (if I use an updatebatch this is probably not
necesseray but it's good programming I think)

> any tips/advice is greatly appreciated!!

> Regards,

> Sander

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 29 01:49:51 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:49:51 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging +
	UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <20041028200235.33860.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041028200235.33860.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1711731299.20041029084951@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

Nice!

However, if it adds 11 seconds to read a 250K file off the network
compared to read it from local disk, it is not a "slow Novell network"
just a slow network where something represents a bottleneck which
needs an upgrade.

/gustav


> Jim, Gustav,
 
> thnx for the replies.
> However, while I was 'fondeling' around I was looking at the code, network stats, doing some prototyping I came up with the following.
> Load the file (wich I first copied to the desktop) in an array;
> then I opened 3 rsts
> Then I loop-ed through the file until the UBOUND(array) was found
>   did a addnew + update after each found 'tag'
> exited the loop,
> closed the rsts
> and voila! Remember the 25 hours.....how about 3 seconds!!!
> Then I skipped the copying part and left the file on the network, still 14 seconds. Maybe it can be done faster but I think a 50,000% performance improvement will do just fine :-)
 
> The problem was that the 'programmer' that designed and build the app did the following:
> While looping through the file he opened and closed a recordset every time he found a 'tag' So that could be about 5500 times! Over a slow novell network using a 800Mb Fe-Be app....
 
> Well it works. Now all I have to do is create the transaction thingy Gustav said. Just read about it in the bible...aka ADHB2K by litwin, gilbert and getz...get it ;-) Sjee, it's getting a bit late.
 
> Sander



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 29 02:21:07 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:21:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging
	+UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEIOCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <20041029072107.87715.qmail@web61101.mail.yahoo.com>

Here ya go  (BTW I did NOT invent this naming convention!!!!!!!! FS used to be an object as was 'a', astrLineContents used to be strLineContents, etc.)
 
If you need more info => ask!
 
   Dim FS As FileSystemObject
   Dim a As TextStream
   Dim strBuff As String
   Dim astrLineContents() As String

Set a = FS.OpenTextFile(strFileName)
strBuff = a.ReadAll
      a.Close
      astrLineContents = Split(strBuff, Chr(10))
      lngMessageNumber = Val(Mid(astrLineContents(2), 21, 9))
      strDateConversion = Mid(astrLineContents(3), 5, 8)
      IntArrayCounter = UBound(astrLineContents) + 1
      Set db = CurrentDb()
      Set recD1 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD1", dbOpenDynaset)
      Set recD2 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD2", dbOpenDynaset)
      Set recD3 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD3", dbOpenDynaset)
   
      For intJ = 0 To UBound(astrLineContents)
         strLineStart = Left(astrLineContents(intJ), 7)
         Select Case strLineStart
         Case "#MEDTD1"
            'Set recD1 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD1", dbOpenDynaset)
            recD1.AddNew
 
<logic removed eg: recD1!MeterNo = Mid(astrLineContents(intJ), 9, 18)>

            recD1.Update
            'recD1.Close
            DoEvents
         Case "#MEDTD2"
            'Set recD2 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD2", dbOpenDynaset)
            recD2.AddNew
            recD2.Update
            'recD2.Close
            DoEvents
         Case "#MEDTD3"
            'Set recD3 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD3", dbOpenDynaset)
            recD3.AddNew
            recD3.Update
            'recS1.Close
            DoEvents
         End Select
         
      Next intJ
      recD1.Close
      recD2.Close
      recD3.Close

"Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi Sanders:

That is great and the solution was very creative. A code sample would be in
order...

Excellent solution.
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging
+UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*


Jim, Gustav,

thnx for the replies.
However, while I was 'fondeling' around I was looking at the code, network
stats, doing some prototyping I came up with the following.
Load the file (wich I first copied to the desktop) in an array;
then I opened 3 rsts
Then I loop-ed through the file until the UBOUND(array) was found
did a addnew + update after each found 'tag'
exited the loop,
closed the rsts
and voila! Remember the 25 hours.....how about 3 seconds!!!
Then I skipped the copying part and left the file on the network, still 14
seconds. Maybe it can be done faster but I think a 50,000% performance
improvement will do just fine :-)

The problem was that the 'programmer' that designed and build the app did
the following:
While looping through the file he opened and closed a recordset every time
he found a 'tag' So that could be about 5500 times! Over a slow novell
network using a 800Mb Fe-Be app....

Well it works. Now all I have to do is create the transaction thingy Gustav
said. Just read about it in the bible...aka ADHB2K by litwin, gilbert and
getz...get it ;-) Sjee, it's getting a bit late.

Sander

Hi Sander:

I was working on a contract to roll-out an update inventory database,
for a
number of stores, this summer. The system had each computer, with it's
own
full database, which could be fully independent (in the event of a
catastrophic failure on the LAN, the POS system had to run). After the
database was rebuilt on the server, it was then transferred to each
station
across the LAN. The late-night process could take 20 to 30 minutes per
station. Given that some sites had ten terminals the process would have
been
very time-consuming.

We sped the process by zipping the master DB and then broadcasting the
result. It would now only take three minutes per station, as the
database
and in your case, a flat-file, compress down very nicely.

HTH
Jim


Gustav Brock wrote:Hi Sander

First, reading a 0,25 MB file off the network should be fast, no need
to copy the file first. But that is easy to test ... just try with a
local copy.

Second, you can read the file directly with a query as you did for
exporting.
Then use this query as the source for three append queries, one for
each table. Further, this step you can wrap in a
BeginTrans/CommitTrans to give you the option of rolling back.

/gustav


> Hi group,

> I've got a A2K (that needs to migrate to XP) app that needs to import a
flatfile.
> A 267kb file takes about 25-28 HOURS(!!) to proces. Yes, it's a slow
network.
> I need to improve this.
> This is how it 'works' now:
> 1 - read the file on the network to determine the number of lines
> 2 - start a for x=0 to NumberOfLines loop
> 3 - check the first x characters in the line
> 4 - create a new record in a table (table depends on step 3, there are 5
different tables to store the records)
> 5 - execute an update
> 6 - goto the next record

> Here's how I want to do it:
> 1 - copy the file from the network to the desktop
> 2 - import the complete file in a staging table
> 3 - Use an UpdateBatch mechanisme to update the BE.

> Question:
> How can i implement this UpdateBatch? I mean I have to store the records
for each table
> and after the complete file is processed I want to update all tables.

> Question:
> I need to implement a transaction. If the processing failes somewhere I
need to rollback the changes (if I use an updatebatch this is probably not
necesseray but it's good programming I think)

> any tips/advice is greatly appreciated!!

> Regards,

> Sander

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 29 02:23:02 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:23:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging +
	UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <1711731299.20041029084951@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041029072302.85990.qmail@web61106.mail.yahoo.com>

I didn't mean to say that Novell has slow networks but this one is!
"a bottleneck"?? We've got several crates full of bottlenecks :-)

Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi Sander

Nice!

However, if it adds 11 seconds to read a 250K file off the network
compared to read it from local disk, it is not a "slow Novell network"
just a slow network where something represents a bottleneck which
needs an upgrade.

/gustav


> Jim, Gustav,

> thnx for the replies.
> However, while I was 'fondeling' around I was looking at the code, network stats, doing some prototyping I came up with the following.
> Load the file (wich I first copied to the desktop) in an array;
> then I opened 3 rsts
> Then I loop-ed through the file until the UBOUND(array) was found
> did a addnew + update after each found 'tag'
> exited the loop,
> closed the rsts
> and voila! Remember the 25 hours.....how about 3 seconds!!!
> Then I skipped the copying part and left the file on the network, still 14 seconds. Maybe it can be done faster but I think a 50,000% performance improvement will do just fine :-)

> The problem was that the 'programmer' that designed and build the app did the following:
> While looping through the file he opened and closed a recordset every time he found a 'tag' So that could be about 5500 times! Over a slow novell network using a 800Mb Fe-Be app....

> Well it works. Now all I have to do is create the transaction thingy Gustav said. Just read about it in the bible...aka ADHB2K by litwin, gilbert and getz...get it ;-) Sjee, it's getting a bit late.

> Sander

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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Oct 29 02:33:45 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:33:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893604C4D7@primary.orridge.co.uk>

To all,
 
I have the following code in a database:
 
    Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
    Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
    Dim strSaveAs As String
 
    Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
    Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is a
path provided by the user
 
    strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
 
    objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
 
    objWB.Close
    Set objWB = Nothing
    objExcel.Quit
    Set objExcel = Nothing
 
This should be so simple but I get the following error message on the
objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText line:
 
    Expected Function or Variable
 
Can anyone help on this......
 
Thanks in advance for any help.
 
PAUL HARTLAND
Database Designer/Programmer
paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 29 03:42:14 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:42:14 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893604C4D7@primary.orridge.co.uk>
References: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893604C4D7@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1228474155.20041029104214@cactus.dk>

Hi Paul

Try with

    Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strLoc)

/gustav


> I have the following code in a database:
 
>     Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
>     Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
>     Dim strSaveAs As String
 
>     Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is a
> path provided by the user
 
>     strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
 
>     objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
 
>     objWB.Close
>     Set objWB = Nothing
>     objExcel.Quit
>     Set objExcel = Nothing
 
> This should be so simple but I get the following error message on the
> objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText line:
 
>     Expected Function or Variable



From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Oct 29 05:28:29 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:28:29 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C4689365500C3@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655228E@primary.orridge.co.uk>

Gustav,

Tried the line you sent and got the following error message now:

	Method 'Open' of object 'Workbooks' failed

Any ideas ?

Paul

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 29 October 2004 09:42
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel


Hi Paul

Try with

    Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strLoc)

/gustav


> I have the following code in a database:
 
>     Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
>     Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
>     Dim strSaveAs As String
 
>     Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is a
> path provided by the user
 
>     strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
 
>     objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
 
>     objWB.Close
>     Set objWB = Nothing
>     objExcel.Quit
>     Set objExcel = Nothing
 
> This should be so simple but I get the following error message on the 
> objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText line:
 
>     Expected Function or Variable

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 29 07:38:01 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:38:01 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
Message-ID: <17922621718.20041029143801@cactus.dk>

Hi all

A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
FTP command line utility with script files.

However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the
Windows FTP thing can not.

I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so
I wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can
understand the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?

/gustav



From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 29 07:50:40 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:50:40 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655228E@primary.orridge.co.uk>
References: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655228E@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1823381100.20041029145040@cactus.dk>

Hi Paul

This works all the time for me.
Something else must be going on at your side.
Are you sure the filename is stated correctly?

Put in

  Debug.Print strLoc

and read.

/gustav


> Gustav,

> Tried the line you sent and got the following error message now:

>         Method 'Open' of object 'Workbooks' failed

> Any ideas ?

> Paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: 29 October 2004 09:42
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel


> Hi Paul

> Try with

>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strLoc)

> /gustav


>> I have the following code in a database:
 
>>     Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
>>     Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
>>     Dim strSaveAs As String
 
>>     Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
>>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is a
>> path provided by the user
 
>>     strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
 
>>     objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
 
>>     objWB.Close
>>     Set objWB = Nothing
>>     objExcel.Quit
>>     Set objExcel = Nothing
 
>> This should be so simple but I get the following error message on the 
>> objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText line:
 
>>     Expected Function or Variable



From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 29 08:01:29 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 06:01:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging	+UpdateBatch?
	*SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <20041029072107.87715.qmail@web61101.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEJBCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Thnks Sander...Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging
+UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*


Here ya go  (BTW I did NOT invent this naming convention!!!!!!!! FS used to
be an object as was 'a', astrLineContents used to be strLineContents, etc.)

If you need more info => ask!

   Dim FS As FileSystemObject
   Dim a As TextStream
   Dim strBuff As String
   Dim astrLineContents() As String

Set a = FS.OpenTextFile(strFileName)
strBuff = a.ReadAll
      a.Close
      astrLineContents = Split(strBuff, Chr(10))
      lngMessageNumber = Val(Mid(astrLineContents(2), 21, 9))
      strDateConversion = Mid(astrLineContents(3), 5, 8)
      IntArrayCounter = UBound(astrLineContents) + 1
      Set db = CurrentDb()
      Set recD1 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD1", dbOpenDynaset)
      Set recD2 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD2", dbOpenDynaset)
      Set recD3 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD3", dbOpenDynaset)

      For intJ = 0 To UBound(astrLineContents)
         strLineStart = Left(astrLineContents(intJ), 7)
         Select Case strLineStart
         Case "#MEDTD1"
            'Set recD1 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD1", dbOpenDynaset)
            recD1.AddNew

<logic removed eg: recD1!MeterNo = Mid(astrLineContents(intJ), 9, 18)>

            recD1.Update
            'recD1.Close
            DoEvents
         Case "#MEDTD2"
            'Set recD2 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD2", dbOpenDynaset)
            recD2.AddNew
            recD2.Update
            'recD2.Close
            DoEvents
         Case "#MEDTD3"
            'Set recD3 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD3", dbOpenDynaset)
            recD3.AddNew
            recD3.Update
            'recS1.Close
            DoEvents
         End Select

      Next intJ
      recD1.Close
      recD2.Close
      recD3.Close

"Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi Sanders:

That is great and the solution was very creative. A code sample would be in
order...

Excellent solution.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging
+UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*


Jim, Gustav,

thnx for the replies.
However, while I was 'fondeling' around I was looking at the code, network
stats, doing some prototyping I came up with the following.
Load the file (wich I first copied to the desktop) in an array;
then I opened 3 rsts
Then I loop-ed through the file until the UBOUND(array) was found
did a addnew + update after each found 'tag'
exited the loop,
closed the rsts
and voila! Remember the 25 hours.....how about 3 seconds!!!
Then I skipped the copying part and left the file on the network, still 14
seconds. Maybe it can be done faster but I think a 50,000% performance
improvement will do just fine :-)

The problem was that the 'programmer' that designed and build the app did
the following:
While looping through the file he opened and closed a recordset every time
he found a 'tag' So that could be about 5500 times! Over a slow novell
network using a 800Mb Fe-Be app....

Well it works. Now all I have to do is create the transaction thingy Gustav
said. Just read about it in the bible...aka ADHB2K by litwin, gilbert and
getz...get it ;-) Sjee, it's getting a bit late.

Sander

Hi Sander:

I was working on a contract to roll-out an update inventory database,
for a
number of stores, this summer. The system had each computer, with it's
own
full database, which could be fully independent (in the event of a
catastrophic failure on the LAN, the POS system had to run). After the
database was rebuilt on the server, it was then transferred to each
station
across the LAN. The late-night process could take 20 to 30 minutes per
station. Given that some sites had ten terminals the process would have
been
very time-consuming.

We sped the process by zipping the master DB and then broadcasting the
result. It would now only take three minutes per station, as the
database
and in your case, a flat-file, compress down very nicely.

HTH
Jim


Gustav Brock wrote:Hi Sander

First, reading a 0,25 MB file off the network should be fast, no need
to copy the file first. But that is easy to test ... just try with a
local copy.

Second, you can read the file directly with a query as you did for
exporting.
Then use this query as the source for three append queries, one for
each table. Further, this step you can wrap in a
BeginTrans/CommitTrans to give you the option of rolling back.

/gustav


> Hi group,

> I've got a A2K (that needs to migrate to XP) app that needs to import a
flatfile.
> A 267kb file takes about 25-28 HOURS(!!) to proces. Yes, it's a slow
network.
> I need to improve this.
> This is how it 'works' now:
> 1 - read the file on the network to determine the number of lines
> 2 - start a for x=0 to NumberOfLines loop
> 3 - check the first x characters in the line
> 4 - create a new record in a table (table depends on step 3, there are 5
different tables to store the records)
> 5 - execute an update
> 6 - goto the next record

> Here's how I want to do it:
> 1 - copy the file from the network to the desktop
> 2 - import the complete file in a staging table
> 3 - Use an UpdateBatch mechanisme to update the BE.

> Question:
> How can i implement this UpdateBatch? I mean I have to store the records
for each table
> and after the complete file is processed I want to update all tables.

> Question:
> I need to implement a transaction. If the processing failes somewhere I
need to rollback the changes (if I use an updatebatch this is probably not
necesseray but it's good programming I think)

> any tips/advice is greatly appreciated!!

> Regards,

> Sander

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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Oct 29 08:15:11 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:15:11 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936550110@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936552296@primary.orridge.co.uk>

Yeah the path is returned as follows

C:\PNProject\Critpath_Fin.csv

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 29 October 2004 13:51
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel


Hi Paul

This works all the time for me.
Something else must be going on at your side.
Are you sure the filename is stated correctly?

Put in

  Debug.Print strLoc

and read.

/gustav


> Gustav,

> Tried the line you sent and got the following error message now:

>         Method 'Open' of object 'Workbooks' failed

> Any ideas ?

> Paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> Brock
> Sent: 29 October 2004 09:42
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel


> Hi Paul

> Try with

>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strLoc)

> /gustav


>> I have the following code in a database:
 
>>     Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
>>     Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
>>     Dim strSaveAs As String
 
>>     Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
>>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is
a
>> path provided by the user
 
>>     strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
 
>>     objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
 
>>     objWB.Close
>>     Set objWB = Nothing
>>     objExcel.Quit
>>     Set objExcel = Nothing
 
>> This should be so simple but I get the following error message on the
>> objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText line:
 
>>     Expected Function or Variable

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Oct 29 08:31:55 2004
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:31:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936552296@primary.orridge.co.uk>
References: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936550110@primary.orridge.co.uk>
	<668C5C868606C641857281147C468936552296@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <e04a6c92041029063175e0bfd7@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:15:11 +0100, Paul Hartland (ISHARP)
<paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk> wrote:
> Yeah the path is returned as follows
> 
> C:\PNProject\Critpath_Fin.csv

Have you set a reference to the Excel Object?
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Oct 29 08:49:58 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:49:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655013F@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655229F@primary.orridge.co.uk>

Yes see original code sent below:

>> I have the following code in a database:
 
>>     Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
>>     Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
>>     Dim strSaveAs As String
 
>>     Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
>>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is
a
>> path provided by the user
 
>>     strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
 
>>     objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
 
>>     objWB.Close
>>     Set objWB = Nothing
>>     objExcel.Quit
>>     Set objExcel = Nothing

Paul

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: 29 October 2004 14:32
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel


On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:15:11 +0100, Paul Hartland (ISHARP)
<paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk> wrote:
> Yeah the path is returned as follows
> 
> C:\PNProject\Critpath_Fin.csv

Have you set a reference to the Excel Object?
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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Fri Oct 29 08:47:43 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:47:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <17922621718.20041029143801@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000601c4bdbd$ddea6090$0200a8c0@COA3>

What does "passive mode" mean in this context?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode


Hi all

A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
FTP command line utility with script files.

However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the Windows
FTP thing can not.

I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so I
wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can understand
the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?

/gustav

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Oct 29 09:17:14 2004
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:17:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655229F@primary.orridge.co.uk>
References: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655013F@primary.orridge.co.uk>
	<668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655229F@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <e04a6c9204102907175f9a6290@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:49:58 +0100, Paul Hartland (ISHARP)
<paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes see original code sent below:

> >> I have the following code in a database:
> 
> >>     Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
> >>     Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
> >>     Dim strSaveAs As String
> 
> >>     Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
> >>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is
> a
> >> path provided by the user
> 
> >>     strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
> 
> >>     objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
> 
> >>     objWB.Close
> >>     Set objWB = Nothing
> >>     objExcel.Quit
> >>     Set objExcel = Nothing

I meant from the VBE Tools| References and then select Microsoft Excel
x.0 Object Library

not dimming a variable.

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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Oct 29 09:33:06 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:33:06 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936550162@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C4689365522A9@primary.orridge.co.uk>

Bryan,

Yes it's pointing to the Excel 8.0 object library, using Access 97.  The CSV
file by the way has Unix end of line characters if that makes a
difference...

Paul

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Sent: 29 October 2004 15:17
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel


On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:49:58 +0100, Paul Hartland (ISHARP)
<paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes see original code sent below:

> >> I have the following code in a database:
> 
> >>     Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
> >>     Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
> >>     Dim strSaveAs As String
> 
> >>     Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
> >>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc
is
> a
> >> path provided by the user
> 
> >>     strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
> 
> >>     objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
> 
> >>     objWB.Close
> >>     Set objWB = Nothing
> >>     objExcel.Quit
> >>     Set objExcel = Nothing

I meant from the VBE Tools| References and then select Microsoft Excel x.0
Object Library

not dimming a variable.

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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Fri Oct 29 09:46:45 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:46:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook task.
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F63@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen several
times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing Outlook's
e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task the
Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this code so
that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail security features.
I have been trying to the past two days and have not had any luck. 

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
    
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
        
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
    
    
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
                
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" & strNote
& ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
      

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
        
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
        
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
   
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Oct 29 09:46:53 2004
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:46:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C4689365522A9@primary.orridge.co.uk>
References: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936550162@primary.orridge.co.uk>
	<668C5C868606C641857281147C4689365522A9@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <e04a6c9204102907462e39e079@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:33:06 +0100, Paul Hartland (ISHARP)
<paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk> wrote:
> Bryan,
> 
> Yes it's pointing to the Excel 8.0 object library, using Access 97.  The CSV
> file by the way has Unix end of line characters if that makes a
> difference...

Nope it shouldn't.

I just figured out what the problem may be:

The line:
Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is a
path provided by the user

should be:
objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText strLoc


OpenText requires the Workbooks object.

You were trying to set a workbook (no s) object as the result of the OpenText.

If you need a reference to the workbook object that gets opened, you
can use this line:
Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.Open(strLoc) 

Hope this make sense.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Oct 29 09:47:41 2004
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:47:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c9204102907462e39e079@mail.gmail.com>
References: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936550162@primary.orridge.co.uk>
	<668C5C868606C641857281147C4689365522A9@primary.orridge.co.uk>
	<e04a6c9204102907462e39e079@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c9204102907472db4755d@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:46:53 -0400, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:33:06 +0100, Paul Hartland (ISHARP)
> <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk> wrote:
> > Bryan,
> >
> > Yes it's pointing to the Excel 8.0 object library, using Access 97.  The CSV
> > file by the way has Unix end of line characters if that makes a
> > difference...
> 
> Nope it shouldn't.
> 
> I just figured out what the problem may be:
> 
> The line:
> Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is a
> path provided by the user
> 
> should be:
> objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText strLoc
> 
> OpenText requires the Workbooks object.
> 
> You were trying to set a workbook (no s) object as the result of the OpenText.
> 
> If you need a reference to the workbook object that gets opened, you
> can use this line:
> Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.Open(strLoc)
> 
> Hope this make sense.

Forgot to add, Unix LF don't make a difference.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From joeget at vgernet.net  Fri Oct 29 09:54:05 2004
From: joeget at vgernet.net (John Eget)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:54:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] access security
Message-ID: <00ef01c4bdc7$26daedc0$45c2f63f@Desktop>

I am trying to fix a security issue at my site. My managers like to edit or delete records that they think are inappropriate in a product audit database and usually fail to inform anyone of this. I have locked them out of the backend access by the front end with the directory properties of windows for the back end. But this also does not allow them to enter records either. But I would also like to take one step further and not allow individuals that are entering records into the database from either deleting or editing other individual records. Can anyone share with me how they may have done this in the past?
Thanks in advance
John 

From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct 29 10:19:44 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:19:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
	task.
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B27@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use.
You have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit
of help that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the
Outlook.Application object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and
MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen
several times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing
Outlook's e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task
the Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this
code so that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail
security features. I have been trying to the past two days and have not
had any luck. 

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
    
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
        
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
    
    
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
                
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" &
strNote & ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
      

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
        
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
        
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
   
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Oct 29 10:32:39 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:32:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
Message-ID: <00df01c4bdcc$86732e50$6701a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are working without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how this could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.  

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



From tdd-inc at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 29 10:32:50 2004
From: tdd-inc at shaw.ca (Technical Designs)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:32:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893604C4D7@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <005501c4bdcc$8fda6850$7801a8c0@cadcam>

Paul,
In your line...
    strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"

shouldn't the left ( be equal to the right )

Phil


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Hartland (ISHARP) [mailto:paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:34 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel

To all,
 
I have the following code in a database:
 
    Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
    Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
    Dim strSaveAs As String
 
    Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
    Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is a
path provided by the user
 
    strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
 
    objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
 
    objWB.Close
    Set objWB = Nothing
    objExcel.Quit
    Set objExcel = Nothing
 
This should be so simple but I get the following error message on the
objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText line:
 
    Expected Function or Variable
 
Can anyone help on this......
 
Thanks in advance for any help.
 
PAUL HARTLAND
Database Designer/Programmer
paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk
ISHARP
DDI - 01922 472031
Mobile - 07730 523179

 

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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Fri Oct 29 10:36:16 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:36:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
	task.
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F63@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <000201c4bdcd$07f4de10$060aa845@hargrove.internal>

Try the code below...

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com

************************************

Public Function SendTask()
    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
    Dim objSave as Object
    
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
        
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
    
    
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    ' Create the Redemption object
    Set objSafe = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeTaskItem")
    objSafe.Item = objOutlookTsk

    With objSafe
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            .Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
                
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" & strNote
& ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
      

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
        
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
        
    End With
   Set objSafe = nothing
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
   
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Fri Oct 29 10:37:56 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:37:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlooktask.
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B27@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000301c4bdcd$43625680$060aa845@hargrove.internal>

Redemption can use the Outlook.Application just as he has it.  I've got
fully functional code all over the place that does.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use. You
have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit of help
that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the Outlook.Application
object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen several
times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing Outlook's
e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task the
Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this code so
that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail security features.
I have been trying to the past two days and have not had any luck. 

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
    
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
        
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
    
    
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
                
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" & strNote
& ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
      

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
        
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
        
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
   
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Oct 29 10:32:08 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:32:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] access security
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F0471AB31@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

They can't enter records because you've taken away their write permissions
to the back-end folder - so it looks read-only to them.

The best solution is to use the built in Access security. While it's not
immune to cracking, it will keep busy people who don't have time for hacking
at bay.

Alternatively, just ensure that the users NEVER get to see the database
window and so get direct access to tables and queries where they can delete
things. In your forms you can control  what actions take place quite easily.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Eget
> Sent:	Friday, October 29, 2004 10:54 AM
> To:	AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	[AccessD] access security
> 
> I am trying to fix a security issue at my site. My managers like to edit
> or delete records that they think are inappropriate in a product audit
> database and usually fail to inform anyone of this. I have locked them out
> of the backend access by the front end with the directory properties of
> windows for the back end. But this also does not allow them to enter
> records either. But I would also like to take one step further and not
> allow individuals that are entering records into the database from either
> deleting or editing other individual records. Can anyone share with me how
> they may have done this in the past?
> Thanks in advance
> John 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct 29 11:16:47 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:16:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlooktask.
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B29@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I'll take your word for it.  We don't assume that Outlook is installed
or require it for our installations, so we use generic commands.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


Redemption can use the Outlook.Application just as he has it.  I've got
fully functional code all over the place that does.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use.
You have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit
of help that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the
Outlook.Application object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and
MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen
several times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing
Outlook's e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task
the Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this
code so that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail
security features. I have been trying to the past two days and have not
had any luck. 

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
    
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
        
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
    
    
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
                
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" &
strNote & ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
      

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
        
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
        
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
   
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Fri Oct 29 11:44:22 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:44:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
	task.
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F67@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks for the help so far!

To Charlotte: I am using the unlicensed version until I can get my code to
work. I am only using it right now for testing. If I can get it to do what I
need it to do, I will purchase it right away!

To M&D: Thanks for the code. I tried it out and it works as planned. The
only issue that I have is that the recipient cannot open the item. This is
the problem that I had run into before I posted to the AccessD list. When
the recipient tries to open the task request they get an error message of
"Can't open this item. The property does not exist. The field you want to
modify is not valid for this type of item."

Any idea what is going on?

TIA again!
JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.

I'll take your word for it.  We don't assume that Outlook is installed
or require it for our installations, so we use generic commands.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


Redemption can use the Outlook.Application just as he has it.  I've got
fully functional code all over the place that does.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use.
You have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit
of help that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the
Outlook.Application object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and
MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen
several times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing
Outlook's e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task
the Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this
code so that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail
security features. I have been trying to the past two days and have not
had any luck.

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
   
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
   
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
       
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
   
   
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
               
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" &
strNote & ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
     

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
       
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
       
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
  
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Fri Oct 29 11:45:00 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:45:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
	task.
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F68@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

I am using the code the M&D Manning provided for me.

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
task.

It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use.
You have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit
of help that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the
Outlook.Application object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and
MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen
several times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing
Outlook's e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task
the Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this
code so that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail
security features. I have been trying to the past two days and have not
had any luck.

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
   
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
   
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
       
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
   
   
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
               
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" &
strNote & ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
     

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
       
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
       
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
  
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Fri Oct 29 11:48:57 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:48:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlooktask.
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B29@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000601c4bdd7$2f08f130$060aa845@hargrove.internal>

Totally understood.  We are an all Microsoft shop so it is a little easier
for us to make that assumption.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


I'll take your word for it.  We don't assume that Outlook is installed or
require it for our installations, so we use generic commands.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


Redemption can use the Outlook.Application just as he has it.  I've got
fully functional code all over the place that does.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use. You
have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit of help
that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the Outlook.Application
object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen several
times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing Outlook's
e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task the
Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this code so
that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail security features.
I have been trying to the past two days and have not had any luck. 

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
    
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
        
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
    
    
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
                
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" & strNote
& ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
      

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
        
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
        
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
   
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From pharold at proftesting.com  Fri Oct 29 11:42:40 2004
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:42:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
In-Reply-To: <00df01c4bdcc$86732e50$6701a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <000301c4bdd6$4fad8780$082da8c0@D58BT131>

Stuck Key?

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:33 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


Dear List:

Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are working
without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how this
could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.  

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 29 11:58:55 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:58:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
References: <00df01c4bdcc$86732e50$6701a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <418276CF.1070701@shaw.ca>

Could be orange juice in the keyboard, or maybe one of disabled 
accessibilty options has been turned.
in Access press the shift button rapidly for 5 seconds. This will allow 
you to set "sticky" keys. If it has
been turned on previously check settings tab when window pops ups up in 
response to pressing shift rapidly.

Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

>Dear List:
>
>Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are working without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how this could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.  
>
>MTIA
>
>Rocky Smolin
>Beach Access Software
>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Oct 29 12:01:50 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:01:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371DA@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Scroll lock on?

-----Original Message-----
From: Perry Harold [mailto:pharold at proftesting.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


Stuck Key?

Perry Harold

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Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:33 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


Dear List:

Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are working
without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how this
could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.  

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct 29 12:07:20 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:07:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlooktask.
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B2A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Out clients are all over the world and many rig-site users aren't
particularly computer literate, so they may have Outlook Express,
Outlook, or something else entirely, and they may not even know which!
We can't take chances.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


Totally understood.  We are an all Microsoft shop so it is a little
easier for us to make that assumption.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


I'll take your word for it.  We don't assume that Outlook is installed
or require it for our installations, so we use generic commands.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


Redemption can use the Outlook.Application just as he has it.  I've got
fully functional code all over the place that does.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use.
You have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit
of help that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the
Outlook.Application object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and
MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen
several times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing
Outlook's e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task
the Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this
code so that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail
security features. I have been trying to the past two days and have not
had any luck. 

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
    
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
        
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
    
    
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
                
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" &
strNote & ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
      

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
        
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
        
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
   
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Oct 29 12:20:11 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:20:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
References: <000301c4bdd6$4fad8780$082da8c0@D58BT131>
Message-ID: <01cb01c4bddb$8c327120$6701a8c0@HAL9002>

No.  It's the same on three different boxes.

Now, there's a possibility I'm getting senile or losing my beans here.  I 
use the underscore on all main menu command buttons so that the user doesn't 
have to use the mouse.

Now I've ALWAYS thought that to use those underscores you had to use the Alt 
key simultaneously with the underscored character.  So maybe I've never 
tried it without the Alt key.

Now someone just told me that it always worked that way - no alt key 
required.

So how do are those underscore shortcuts SUPPOSED to work?

Rocky

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From: "Perry Harold" <pharold at proftesting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


> Stuck Key?
>
> Perry Harold
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:33 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are 
> working
> without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how this
> could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Oct 29 12:29:55 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:29:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
References: <00df01c4bdcc$86732e50$6701a8c0@HAL9002> <418276CF.1070701@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <01d501c4bddc$e7fd79e0$6701a8c0@HAL9002>

Wow.  A new feature. Never saw that before.

 But it didn't seem to have any effect on the menus.  For example, my exit 
button has the word Exit with the x underscored.  So when I press X the 
onClick event is triggered and the app closes.  I always thought I needed to 
press Alt-X to get that to work.  No?

TIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


> Could be orange juice in the keyboard, or maybe one of disabled 
> accessibilty options has been turned.
> in Access press the shift button rapidly for 5 seconds. This will allow 
> you to set "sticky" keys. If it has
> been turned on previously check settings tab when window pops ups up in 
> response to pressing shift rapidly.
>
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
>>Dear List:
>>
>>Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are 
>>working without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know 
>>how this could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.
>>MTIA
>>
>>Rocky Smolin
>>Beach Access Software
>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>
>>
>
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> Canada
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Oct 29 12:30:14 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:30:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371DA@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <01e001c4bddc$f3be5b50$6701a8c0@HAL9002>

No.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:01 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


> Scroll lock on?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perry Harold [mailto:pharold at proftesting.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:43 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
>
>
> Stuck Key?
>
> Perry Harold
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:33 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are 
> working
> without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how this
> could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Oct 29 12:35:20 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:35:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C2FF@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

If the form that you are using does not have any data fields on it, then
you can use the straight out press of the letter.  If there is data
fields on the form, the alt-key combo does it.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


No.  It's the same on three different boxes.

Now, there's a possibility I'm getting senile or losing my beans here.
I 
use the underscore on all main menu command buttons so that the user
doesn't 
have to use the mouse.

Now I've ALWAYS thought that to use those underscores you had to use the
Alt 
key simultaneously with the underscored character.  So maybe I've never 
tried it without the Alt key.

Now someone just told me that it always worked that way - no alt key 
required.

So how do are those underscore shortcuts SUPPOSED to work?

Rocky

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From: "Perry Harold" <pharold at proftesting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


> Stuck Key?
>
> Perry Harold
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:33 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are 
> working
> without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how
this
> could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Fri Oct 29 12:44:58 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:44:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlooktask.
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F67@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c4bddf$0254b900$060aa845@hargrove.internal>

I would contact Dmitri for help.  It might be a problem with the object
model that he hasn't run across or a bug within Redemption itself.

Mike and Doris Manning
mikedorism at adelphia.net


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


Thanks for the help so far!

To Charlotte: I am using the unlicensed version until I can get my code to
work. I am only using it right now for testing. If I can get it to do what I
need it to do, I will purchase it right away!

To M&D: Thanks for the code. I tried it out and it works as planned. The
only issue that I have is that the recipient cannot open the item. This is
the problem that I had run into before I posted to the AccessD list. When
the recipient tries to open the task request they get an error message of
"Can't open this item. The property does not exist. The field you want to
modify is not valid for this type of item."

Any idea what is going on?

TIA again!
JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.

I'll take your word for it.  We don't assume that Outlook is installed or
require it for our installations, so we use generic commands.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


Redemption can use the Outlook.Application just as he has it.  I've got
fully functional code all over the place that does.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use. You
have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit of help
that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the Outlook.Application
object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen several
times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing Outlook's
e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task the
Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this code so
that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail security features.
I have been trying to the past two days and have not had any luck.

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
   
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
   
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
       
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
   
   
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
               
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" & strNote
& ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
     

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
       
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
       
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
  
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Fri Oct 29 13:06:02 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:06:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] unbound report?
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73935@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I think I am going to need an unbound report for this part of my
application.  I have several crosstab queries.  Each is based on two joined
tables and gives a summary of the number of clients per month who used
various available services.  i.e. how many clients per month ate breakfast,
lunch, and dinner.  How many stayed in the motel facility.  How many stayed
in the cabins.  How many used the RV/Tent camping facility.  Etc.  My
problem is that when I go to create a report there might be no clients using
one or more of these facilities during any given month.  How do I create a
report that will show the usage as 0 during a month where the query that I
want to fill the report has no February, March, or April fields because no
guests camped during those months?

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Oct 29 13:42:36 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:42:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] unbound report?
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371DC@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Check out p 157 of Getz's ADH. He suggests using the IN clause. EX:
PIVOT column-headings-field [IN(value1[,value2[,...etc]])]
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:06 PM
To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] unbound report?


I think I am going to need an unbound report for this part of my
application.  I have several crosstab queries.  Each is based on two joined
tables and gives a summary of the number of clients per month who used
various available services.  i.e. how many clients per month ate breakfast,
lunch, and dinner.  How many stayed in the motel facility.  How many stayed
in the cabins.  How many used the RV/Tent camping facility.  Etc.  My
problem is that when I go to create a report there might be no clients using
one or more of these facilities during any given month.  How do I create a
report that will show the usage as 0 during a month where the query that I
want to fill the report has no February, March, or April fields because no
guests camped during those months?

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 

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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Fri Oct 29 13:42:51 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:42:51 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] unbound report?
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F298FD8@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

In the crosstab query Properties, look at Column Headings.  The A2K help says 'use this property to specify the order or to limit the number of columns displayed', but you can use it to force an otherwise empty column to display as well.    

Stephen Bond


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org]
> Sent: Saturday, 30 October 2004 7:06 a.m.
> To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: [AccessD] unbound report?
> 
> 
> I think I am going to need an unbound report for this part of my
> application.  I have several crosstab queries.  Each is based 
> on two joined
> tables and gives a summary of the number of clients per month who used
> various available services.  i.e. how many clients per month 
> ate breakfast,
> lunch, and dinner.  How many stayed in the motel facility.  
> How many stayed
> in the cabins.  How many used the RV/Tent camping facility.  Etc.  My
> problem is that when I go to create a report there might be 
> no clients using
> one or more of these facilities during any given month.  How 
> do I create a
> report that will show the usage as 0 during a month where the 
> query that I
> want to fill the report has no February, March, or April 
> fields because no
> guests camped during those months?
> 
>  
> 
> Susan Klos
> 
> Senior Database Analyst
> 
> Evaluation and Reporting
> 
> Florida Department of Education
> 
> 850-245-0708 
> 
> sc 205-0708
> 
>  
> 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Oct 29 13:59:42 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:59:42 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C2FF@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <02b201c4bde9$73201ad0$6701a8c0@HAL9002>

WHO KNEW???!!!!

I feel like such a newbie sometimes.

Thanks for the heads up, Karen.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicholson, Karen" <cyx5 at cdc.gov>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:35 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


> If the form that you are using does not have any data fields on it, then
> you can use the straight out press of the letter.  If there is data
> fields on the form, the alt-key combo does it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:20 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
>
>
> No.  It's the same on three different boxes.
>
> Now, there's a possibility I'm getting senile or losing my beans here.
> I
> use the underscore on all main menu command buttons so that the user
> doesn't
> have to use the mouse.
>
> Now I've ALWAYS thought that to use those underscores you had to use the
> Alt
> key simultaneously with the underscored character.  So maybe I've never
> tried it without the Alt key.
>
> Now someone just told me that it always worked that way - no alt key
> required.
>
> So how do are those underscore shortcuts SUPPOSED to work?
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Perry Harold" <pharold at proftesting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:42 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
>
>
>> Stuck Key?
>>
>> Perry Harold
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> Smolin -
>> Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:33 AM
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
>>
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are
>> working
>> without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how
> this
>> could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.
>>
>> MTIA
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Oct 29 17:38:38 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:38:38 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <000601c4bdbd$ddea6090$0200a8c0@COA3>
References: <17922621718.20041029143801@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4183530E.22988.39D653E@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 29 Oct 2004 at 9:47, Steve Conklin (Developer at Ultr wrote:

> What does "passive mode" mean in this context?
> 

See RFC 959:

<quote>

   The data transfer process, in its normal "active" state,
         establishes the data connection with the "listening" data port.
         It sets up parameters for transfer and storage, and transfers
         data on command from its PI.  The DTP can be placed in a
         "passive" state to listen for, rather than initiate a
         connection on the data port.

----8<-----

PASSIVE (PASV)
	      This command requests the server-DTP to "listen" on a data
            port (which is not its default data port) and to wait for a
            connection rather than initiate one upon receipt of a
            transfer command.  The response to this command includes the
            host and port address this server is listening on.
</quote>

-- 
Stuart




From dw-murphy at cox.net  Fri Oct 29 18:07:29 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:07:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Message on deleting records
In-Reply-To: <02b201c4bde9$73201ad0$6701a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <000001c4be0c$138d9f70$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Hi Folks,

I have a data entry form with a subform on it.  On new record entry a cancel
button is visible so if the user decides to not complete the entry of the
new record they can cancel out of it.  Since several fields on the form are
auto filled and the user may have, entered data, moved onto the subform or
whatever, when they hit cancel I run a delete query for the record on the
subform and one for the record on the main form using their primary keys.
They queries are of the form; "Delete * From tablewhatever where fldID =
recordIDFromForm"  All this works great except that when the form closes and
the queries have run I get an Access message saying "You can not add or
change a record because a related record is required in tblLot".  The delete
queries run and delete their respective records with no problem, but I don't
know why I am getting this message.  The queries run in the order of child
record, parent record.

Any thoughts on how to get rid of this message would be appreciated.  I have
turned warnings off before running the delete queries.

Doug




From dw-murphy at cox.net  Fri Oct 29 18:40:00 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:40:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Message on deleting records
In-Reply-To: <000001c4be0c$138d9f70$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>
Message-ID: <000001c4be10$a370f660$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Cancel the request!  This apparently is one of those which closes first
things, the form or subform.  The delete code is run in the main form and
the subform is apparently still open when it is run.  I can trap the error
in the subform and prevent the message.

Sorry for the wasted bandwidth.

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Message on deleting records


Hi Folks,

I have a data entry form with a subform on it.  On new record entry a cancel
button is visible so if the user decides to not complete the entry of the
new record they can cancel out of it.  Since several fields on the form are
auto filled and the user may have, entered data, moved onto the subform or
whatever, when they hit cancel I run a delete query for the record on the
subform and one for the record on the main form using their primary keys.
They queries are of the form; "Delete * From tablewhatever where fldID =
recordIDFromForm"  All this works great except that when the form closes and
the queries have run I get an Access message saying "You can not add or
change a record because a related record is required in tblLot".  The delete
queries run and delete their respective records with no problem, but I don't
know why I am getting this message.  The queries run in the order of child
record, parent record.

Any thoughts on how to get rid of this message would be appreciated.  I have
turned warnings off before running the delete queries.

Doug


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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Fri Oct 29 19:28:50 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:28:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <4183530E.22988.39D653E@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <003701c4be17$6e27bdc0$0200a8c0@COA3>

Thanks, Stuart.
I have only used FTP command line to login/upload/download, so I don't
know all of its intricacies.  But according to what I read further on
RFC 959, wouldn't an "Active" session need to be initiated first, then,
to issue the PASV command? ... I ask this in pursuit of the answer to
the  original question (which wasn't mine, but an interesting topic!)

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:39 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode


On 29 Oct 2004 at 9:47, Steve Conklin (Developer at Ultr wrote:

> What does "passive mode" mean in this context?
> 

See RFC 959:

<quote>

   The data transfer process, in its normal "active" state,
         establishes the data connection with the "listening" data port.
         It sets up parameters for transfer and storage, and transfers
         data on command from its PI.  The DTP can be placed in a
         "passive" state to listen for, rather than initiate a
         connection on the data port.

----8<-----

PASSIVE (PASV)
	      This command requests the server-DTP to "listen" on a data
            port (which is not its default data port) and to wait for a
            connection rather than initiate one upon receipt of a
            transfer command.  The response to this command includes the
            host and port address this server is listening on. </quote>

-- 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Oct 29 20:31:44 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:31:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <003701c4be17$6e27bdc0$0200a8c0@COA3>
References: <4183530E.22988.39D653E@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <41837BA0.13814.43BDF5F@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 29 Oct 2004 at 20:28, Steve Conklin (Developer at Ultr wrote:

> Thanks, Stuart.
> I have only used FTP command line to login/upload/download, so I don't
> know all of its intricacies.  But according to what I read further on
> RFC 959, wouldn't an "Active" session need to be initiated first, then,
> to issue the PASV command? ... I ask this in pursuit of the answer to
> the  original question (which wasn't mine, but an interesting topic!)
> 

There are two connections involved in a FTP session, control and data.

A control connection is established first on the standard control port and 
then a data connection is established.   The active/passive differentiation 
is in the way the port for the data connection is selected.

In an active session, the client connecting to the server specifies what 
port is to be used for the data connection (either the default or a user 
specified port using the PORT command).

Using PASV to establish the data connection tells the FTP Server to pick an 
available port and tell you to listen on it.  This is necessary when you 
are talking to a busy FTP server with lots of simulatneous connections - 
only the server knows what ports it has available at the time.

-- 
Stuart




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 29 23:04:28 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:04:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
References: <000601c4bdbd$ddea6090$0200a8c0@COA3>
Message-ID: <418312CC.3030209@shaw.ca>

How about using a watched folder or directory, when a file is added to a 
folder then do something

Creating a Watched Folder with FindChangeNotification API
http://vbnet.mvps.org/index.html?code/fileapi/watchedfolder.htm

I didn't realize you could ftp download with a couple of lines of code.
Someone was looking for this, you could stick this in html via vbscript 
or javascript
The popup window allows you to specify where to place the file.

Private Declare Function DoFileDownload Lib "shdocvw" _
    (ByVal lpszFile As String) As Long
 Sub ftptestrun() 
   Dim sDownload As String
   sDownload = 
StrConv("http://www5.brinkster.com/mconnelly/GenericDB/suppliers.csv", 
vbUnicode)
   Call DoFileDownload(sDownload)
End Sub


Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) wrote:

>What does "passive mode" mean in this context?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
>
>
>Hi all
>
>A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
>FTP command line utility with script files.
>
>However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the Windows
>FTP thing can not.
>
>I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so I
>wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can understand
>the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct 30 06:07:57 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:07:57 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <17922621718.20041029143801@cactus.dk>
References: <17922621718.20041029143801@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4911418739.20041030130757@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Well, Google is God if you didn't knew. A search on:

  FTP command line replacement

revealed in a second this nice piece of freeware:

MOVEit Freely version 3.1.5.0, compiled Aug 24 2004 12:29:47
FTPS is a command-line FTP client similar to the FTP.EXE
that comes with Windows 2000, but it also implements secure FTP
(with SSL), and passive mode.  When used with MOVEit DMZ FTP server,
also does on-the-fly compression and integrity checking.
Written by Standard Networks, Inc.  See http://www.stdnet.com

---

Download is here:

  http://www.standardnetworks.com/products/?category_number=7&subcategory_number=1

/gustav


> A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
> FTP command line utility with script files.

> However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the
> Windows FTP thing can not.

> I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so
> I wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can
> understand the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?

> /gustav



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct 30 05:10:08 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:10:08 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <418312CC.3030209@shaw.ca>
References: <000601c4bdbd$ddea6090$0200a8c0@COA3> <418312CC.3030209@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <517949230.20041030121008@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

Interesting, but that also would require a complete rewrite of the
FTP up- and download routines which is what I try to avoid.

/gustav


> How about using a watched folder or directory, when a file is added to a 
> folder then do something

> Creating a Watched Folder with FindChangeNotification API
> http://vbnet.mvps.org/index.html?code/fileapi/watchedfolder.htm

> I didn't realize you could ftp download with a couple of lines of code.
> Someone was looking for this, you could stick this in html via vbscript 
> or javascript
> The popup window allows you to specify where to place the file.

> Private Declare Function DoFileDownload Lib "shdocvw" _
>     (ByVal lpszFile As String) As Long
>  Sub ftptestrun() 
>    Dim sDownload As String
>    sDownload = 
> StrConv("http://www5.brinkster.com/mconnelly/GenericDB/suppliers.csv", 
> vbUnicode)
>    Call DoFileDownload(sDownload)
> End Sub


> Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) wrote:

>>What does "passive mode" mean in this context?
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
>>
>>
>>Hi all
>>
>>A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
>>FTP command line utility with script files.
>>
>>However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the Windows
>>FTP thing can not.
>>
>>I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so I
>>wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can understand
>>the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?
>>
>>/gustav



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Oct 30 08:18:00 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:18:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
In-Reply-To: <02b201c4bde9$73201ad0$6701a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <00f901c4be82$e1af1430$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

I'm with you there Rocky. I didn't know that either.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: 29 October 2004 20:00
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
> 
> 
> WHO KNEW???!!!!
> 
> I feel like such a newbie sometimes.
> 
> Thanks for the heads up, Karen.
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nicholson, Karen" <cyx5 at cdc.gov>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:35 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
> 
> 
> > If the form that you are using does not have any data fields on it, 
> > then you can use the straight out press of the letter.  If there is 
> > data fields on the form, the alt-key combo does it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> > Smolin
> > - Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:20 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
> >
> >
> > No.  It's the same on three different boxes.
> >
> > Now, there's a possibility I'm getting senile or losing my 
> beans here. 
> > I use the underscore on all main menu command buttons so 
> that the user
> > doesn't
> > have to use the mouse.
> >
> > Now I've ALWAYS thought that to use those underscores you 
> had to use 
> > the Alt key simultaneously with the underscored character.  
> So maybe 
> > I've never tried it without the Alt key.
> >
> > Now someone just told me that it always worked that way - 
> no alt key 
> > required.
> >
> > So how do are those underscore shortcuts SUPPOSED to work?
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Perry Harold" <pharold at proftesting.com>
> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:42 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
> >
> >
> >> Stuck Key?
> >>
> >> Perry Harold
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> > Smolin -
> >> Beach Access Software
> >> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:33 AM
> >> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> >> Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear List:
> >>
> >> Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined 
> characters) are 
> >> working without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  
> Does anyone 
> >> know how
> > this
> >> could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.
> >>
> >> MTIA
> >>
> >> Rocky Smolin
> >> Beach Access Software
> >> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >>
> >> --
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> >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Oct 30 09:36:37 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:36:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <4911418739.20041030130757@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEJLCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Gustav:

Seems like the ticket but I wonder what the product costs as a viewer will
have to ask for a quote to receive that information. Shock or pleasant
surprise?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode


Hi all

Well, Google is God if you didn't knew. A search on:

  FTP command line replacement

revealed in a second this nice piece of freeware:

MOVEit Freely version 3.1.5.0, compiled Aug 24 2004 12:29:47
FTPS is a command-line FTP client similar to the FTP.EXE
that comes with Windows 2000, but it also implements secure FTP
(with SSL), and passive mode.  When used with MOVEit DMZ FTP server,
also does on-the-fly compression and integrity checking.
Written by Standard Networks, Inc.  See http://www.stdnet.com

---

Download is here:


http://www.standardnetworks.com/products/?category_number=7&subcategory_numb
er=1

/gustav


> A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
> FTP command line utility with script files.

> However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the
> Windows FTP thing can not.

> I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so
> I wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can
> understand the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?

> /gustav

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct 30 09:49:04 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:49:04 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEJLCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEJLCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <8224685746.20041030164904@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Looks like USD 25.00:

  https://secure.stdnet.com/moveitstore/store.asp

/gustav


> Hi Gustav:

> Seems like the ticket but I wonder what the product costs as a viewer will
> have to ask for a quote to receive that information. Shock or pleasant
> surprise?

> Jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:08 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode


> Hi all

> Well, Google is God if you didn't knew. A search on:

>   FTP command line replacement

> revealed in a second this nice piece of freeware:

> MOVEit Freely version 3.1.5.0, compiled Aug 24 2004 12:29:47
> FTPS is a command-line FTP client similar to the FTP.EXE
> that comes with Windows 2000, but it also implements secure FTP
> (with SSL), and passive mode.  When used with MOVEit DMZ FTP server,
> also does on-the-fly compression and integrity checking.
> Written by Standard Networks, Inc.  See http://www.stdnet.com

> ---

> Download is here:


> http://www.standardnetworks.com/products/?category_number=7&subcategory_numb
> er=1

> /gustav


>> A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
>> FTP command line utility with script files.

>> However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the
>> Windows FTP thing can not.

>> I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so
>> I wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can
>> understand the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?

>> /gustav



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Oct 30 10:27:24 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:27:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <8224685746.20041030164904@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEJMCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Gustav: Not bad... Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode


Hi Jim

Looks like USD 25.00:

  https://secure.stdnet.com/moveitstore/store.asp

/gustav


> Hi Gustav:

> Seems like the ticket but I wonder what the product costs as a viewer will
> have to ask for a quote to receive that information. Shock or pleasant
> surprise?

> Jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:08 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode


> Hi all

> Well, Google is God if you didn't knew. A search on:

>   FTP command line replacement

> revealed in a second this nice piece of freeware:

> MOVEit Freely version 3.1.5.0, compiled Aug 24 2004 12:29:47
> FTPS is a command-line FTP client similar to the FTP.EXE
> that comes with Windows 2000, but it also implements secure FTP
> (with SSL), and passive mode.  When used with MOVEit DMZ FTP server,
> also does on-the-fly compression and integrity checking.
> Written by Standard Networks, Inc.  See http://www.stdnet.com

> ---

> Download is here:


>
http://www.standardnetworks.com/products/?category_number=7&subcategory_numb
> er=1

> /gustav


>> A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
>> FTP command line utility with script files.

>> However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the
>> Windows FTP thing can not.

>> I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so
>> I wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can
>> understand the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?

>> /gustav

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Oct 30 13:47:58 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:47:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
	task.
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F68@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <4183E1DE.2010901@shaw.ca>

Here is another email method. I am not sure of all of the ramifications 
of this method.
Any comments?
I just saw a site where you can purchase one client access to a remote 
Exchange Server
over the net paying by the month. Just to add further email oddities.

'The example code is using CDOSYS (CDO for Windows 2000 or XP).
'I dont think I would want to go back to CDONTS for earlier systems
'It does not depend on MAPI or CDO or Outlook
'It does not use your mailbox to send email.
' So you can send mail without a mail program or mail account
' This code builds the message and drops it into a pickup directory,
' and the SMTP service running on the machine
' picks it up and send it out to the internet.

'So why use CDO code instead of Outlook automation or 
Application.SendMail in VBA.
' It doesn't matter what Mail program you are using (It uses the SMTP 
server).
' It doesn't matter what Office version you are using.
' supposedly you can send an object or file in the body of the mail 
(some mail programs can?t do this)
' haven't verified this
' You can send any file attachment you like.
' No Outlook Security warning so no need for Redemption

' You probably wont have your mail server full expanded smtp address
'If you go into netscape mail or outlook and look for the smtp name
'It will look like mine, "shawmail" or "shawnews" this dns resolves
'to "shawmail.cg.shawcable.net" CDO doesn't resolve this short name so
'The quickest way to get this actual address without using registry et al.
'is run cmd and ping "shawmail" to return full qualified smtp address.
'This code wont run exactly unless you are on cable and signed on in the 
Shaw domain

Sub SendCDO()
' This example use late binding of CDOSys, you don't have to set a reference
' You must be online to net when you run the sub
' You must be running WinXP or Win2000
Dim cdoMessage As Object
Dim objCDOMail As Object
Dim strschema As String
On Error GoTo ErrorHandler ' Enable error-handling routine.
'
Set cdoMessage = CreateObject("CDO.Message")
Set objCDOMail = CreateObject("CDO.Configuration")
strschema = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/"
objCDOMail.Load -1 ' CDO Source Default
'If you have illegal or wrong smtp address here it will run for 30-60 
seconds and finally give transport error
With objCDOMail.Fields
.Item(strschema & "sendusing") = 2 ' cdoSendUsingPort
.Item(strschema & "smtpserver") = "shawmail.cg.shawcable.net" ' "Your 
SMTP server address here"
.Item(strschema & "smtpserverport") = 25 'specify port number
.Update
End With

With cdoMessage
Set .Configuration = objCDOMail
.to = "martyconnelly at gmail.com"
.From = "Winnie The Pooh <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>"
.CC = ""
.BCC = ""
.Subject = "This is another test from marty"
.TextBody = "This is the text in the body just cdo defaults"
.AddAttachment "C:\temp2\rptSampleCount.rtf"
.AddAttachment "C:\temp2\frontimage.jpeg"
.send
End With

Set cdoMessage = Nothing
Set objCDOMail = Nothing
Exit Sub ' Exit to avoid handler.
ErrorHandler: ' Error-handling routine.
Debug.Print Err.Number & "-" & Err.Description
Set cdoMessage = Nothing
Set objCDOMail = Nothing
Exit Sub
End Sub




Joe Rojas wrote:

>I am using the code the M&D Manning provided for me.
>
>JR
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
>task.
>
>It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use.
>You have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit
>of help that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the
>Outlook.Application object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and
>MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com]
>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
>task.
>
>
>Hi All,
>
>I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen
>several times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing
>Outlook's e-mail security features.
>
>Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task
>the Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this
>code so that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail
>security features. I have been trying to the past two days and have not
>had any luck.
>
>Can someone please help me with this?
>
>TIA!
>JR
>
>Public Function SendTask()
>   
>    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
>    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
>   
>    Dim strRecipList() As String
>    Dim strNum As String
>    Dim DDueDate As Date
>    Dim strNote As String
>    Dim strBody As String
>    Dim i As Integer
>       
>    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
>    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
>    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
>    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
>    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
>    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
>subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
>    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
>subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
>    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
>subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
>   
>   
>    ' Create the Outlook session.
>    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
>
>    ' Create the message.
>    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)
>
>    With objOutlookTsk
>        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
>        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
>            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
>        Next
>               
>        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
>        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" &
>strNote & ")"
>        .Body = strBody
>        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
>        .ReminderSet = True
>        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
>        .DueDate = DDueDate
>     
>
>        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
>        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
>            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
>            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
>                objOutlookTsk.Display
>            End If
>        Next
>       
>        .Save
>        .Assign
>        .Send
>       
>    End With
>   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
>   Set objOutlook = Nothing
>  
>   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"
>
>End Function
>
>
>
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>intended solely for the addressee. It may contain information which is
>covered by legal, professional, or other privileges. If you are not the
>intended addressee, or someone authorized by the intended addressee to
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>covered by legal, professional, or other privileges. If you are not the
>intended addressee, or someone authorized by the intended addressee to
>receive transmissions on behalf of the addressee, you must not retain,
>disclose in any form, copy, or take any action in reliance on this
>transmission. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify
>the sender as soon as possible and destroy this message. While TNCO, Inc.
>uses virus protection, the recipient should check this email and any
>attachments for the presence of viruses. TNCO, Inc. accepts no liability for
>any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From pcs at azizaz.com  Sun Oct 31 20:50:56 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Steen Hansen)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:50:56 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
Message-ID: <009501c4bfbd$9d132be0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Hi,
I have a some Access97 database applications that have been working for
years.
They are currently sitting on WinXP with AccessXP installed as well.

Been working on the XP box for over a year!

Recently when making a minor modification and doing a 'Compile and Save' I
get the following message on the first instance of CurrentDb

Compile Error:
Funtion or interface marked as restricted, or the function uses Automation
type not supported in Visual Basic.

I have reference to Microsoft DAO Object Library 3.6
The dao.dll is version 03.60.8618.0

Even if I try to disambiguate the thing, the compile error comes up:

like:

dim db as DAO.Database
set db = CurrentDb

when compiling it will error on the set db = CurrentDb line.

Can anyone help me to shed light on what is going on?


Regards
Borge
Gold Coast, Australia


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct  1 04:32:46 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:32:46 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] date query
In-Reply-To: <008701c4a736$51891f30$f3c581d5@pedro>
References: <000c01c4a27d$9b424600$f9c581d5@pedro>
	<691989590.20040925091522@cactus.dk>
	<008701c4a736$51891f30$f3c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <49180140.20041001113246@cactus.dk>

Hi Pedro

> Gustav, sometimes i don't trust myself
> to show a query that isn't working.
> Because i expect that the solution is simple,
> i sometimes think "what do the other members
> of the group will think of such an easy question".

That's a bad excuse. No one is pointing fingers here - it's simply not
the spirit of the list.

Contrary, sometimes you (anyone) can be blind for the obvious fix
which new eyes may catch in a few seconds.

/gustav



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Oct  1 06:33:27 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 07:33:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] date query
In-Reply-To: <49180140.20041001113246@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041001113328.RIJU1790.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


Contrary, sometimes you (anyone) can be blind for the obvious fix which new
eyes may catch in a few seconds.

=============My routine is to ask the question and bingo -- light goes on.
There's something about phrasing the problem as a question that seems to
trigger something in my brain. And if you could only see the number of SQL
statements with a misplaced " or & -- you'd know Gustav speaks the truth. ;)


Susan H. 



From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Fri Oct  1 09:37:11 2004
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 07:37:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin
In-Reply-To: <49180140.20041001113246@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <AMEDIDMAFJBGBGHMOEAEGEBCEBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

hello to the list,
I created an app years ago that interfaced with the client's medical
practice software.
The software is Mediwin, which uses the Advantage db engine.
After an upgrade to the Mediwin version, my ODBC calls fail for "Can't lock
all records" message from Jet. Some pursuit of the ODBC help indicates that
a network failure could also be an issue. And sure enough, they had the
network guy in about the same time.
Very odd that I can still link to the table of interest sometimes and even
export to Excel, but can't open the table in datasheet view nor successfully
run any of my code.

Naturally, no one thought to let me know that the upgrade was happening. And
I am concerned that the vendor of the Mediwin software is not being helpful
because they would love to recreate most of my work themselves.

And of course, the client is now 10 days behind in sending out
correspondence that should have been done automatically from my program thru
Word....

So, any insight/comments on ODBC, Advantage, Mediwin or a comforting word
would be appreciated.

best,


bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net






From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Fri Oct  1 10:35:31 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:35:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin
References: <AMEDIDMAFJBGBGHMOEAEGEBCEBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <060101c4a7cc$4a5555d0$6401a8c0@default>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Heygood" <bheygood at abestsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:37 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin


> hello to the list,
> I created an app years ago that interfaced with the client's medical
> practice software.
> The software is Mediwin, which uses the Advantage db engine.
> After an upgrade to the Mediwin version, my ODBC calls fail for "Can't
lock
> all records" message from Jet. Some pursuit of the ODBC help indicates
that
> a network failure could also be an issue. And sure enough, they had the
> network guy in about the same time.
> Very odd that I can still link to the table of interest sometimes and even
> export to Excel, but can't open the table in datasheet view nor
successfully
> run any of my code.
<snip>

Bob,

I am working with another medical practice software
called DME VI (formerly Dezine) whose creators have
decided to make their own data definition files and ODBC
drivers to prevent linking to their tables without paying first.

I wouldn't be surprised if this has/will become a standard
practice in the medical software industry. You may want
to check if that's the wall you've run into.
----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Fri Oct  1 10:28:20 2004
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <AMEDIDMAFJBGBGHMOEAEGEBCEBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <001801c4a7cb$4890def0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way to
publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859






From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Oct  1 10:55:01 2004
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:55:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <001801c4a7cb$4890def0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
References: <AMEDIDMAFJBGBGHMOEAEGEBCEBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
	<001801c4a7cb$4890def0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c92041001085544fb47f2@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way to
> publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation. 

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Oct  1 11:02:50 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:02:50 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677217FF76@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I recall a similar problem several years with an ODBC driver that interfaced
with a package that used Foxpro. When the package was updated the driver
quite working. The solution was to get an updated ODBC driver. HTH
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access - Advantage - Mediwin


hello to the list,
I created an app years ago that interfaced with the client's medical
practice software.
The software is Mediwin, which uses the Advantage db engine.
After an upgrade to the Mediwin version, my ODBC calls fail for "Can't lock
all records" message from Jet. Some pursuit of the ODBC help indicates that
a network failure could also be an issue. And sure enough, they had the
network guy in about the same time.
Very odd that I can still link to the table of interest sometimes and even
export to Excel, but can't open the table in datasheet view nor successfully
run any of my code.

Naturally, no one thought to let me know that the upgrade was happening. And
I am concerned that the vendor of the Mediwin software is not being helpful
because they would love to recreate most of my work themselves.

And of course, the client is now 10 days behind in sending out
correspondence that should have been done automatically from my program thru
Word....

So, any insight/comments on ODBC, Advantage, Mediwin or a comforting word
would be appreciated.

best,


bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net




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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Fri Oct  1 11:06:12 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 12:06:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <001801c4a7cb$4890def0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c4a7d0$92a8d1f0$060aa845@hargrove.internal>

Yes.  You need to include the Access Runtime files with your application.
If you have a copy of Office Developer Edition, these files will
automatically be included if you use the Package and Deployment Add-In.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way to
publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859




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From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Fri Oct  1 12:12:54 2004
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 13:12:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <000e01c4a7d0$92a8d1f0$060aa845@hargrove.internal>
Message-ID: <000001c4a7d9$e3feb980$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

I guess...if you don't have Developer Edition....out of luck, huh?

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Yes.  You need to include the Access Runtime files with your application. If
you have a copy of Office Developer Edition, these files will automatically
be included if you use the Package and Deployment Add-In.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way to
publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859




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From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Fri Oct  1 12:12:54 2004
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 13:12:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c92041001085544fb47f2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000101c4a7d9$e43755b0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access, but a
different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere with their
version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way 
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation. 

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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Oct  1 12:39:41 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 13:39:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43840750@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

It does do some .dll dancing.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access,
but a
different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere with
their
version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way 
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation. 

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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Oct  1 13:17:30 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 13:17:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <000101c4a7d9$e43755b0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEBAGAAA.john@winhaven.net>

Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program. SageKey is
a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield products to
provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also don't allow your
application to get screwed up by having the wrong version of Access already
(or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it comes
to having a professional looking installation that actually works on every
PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts down
tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5 years now and
can honestly say I have had little if any problem with installations or
version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for the long run it pays
for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access, but a
different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere with their
version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

--
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct  1 13:41:36 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 20:41:36 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
Message-ID: <2542110181.20041001204136@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
have to set it each and everywhere?

I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?

/gustav



From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Fri Oct  1 13:44:14 2004
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:44:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEBAGAAA.john@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <000001c4a7e6$a7273de0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less expensive.
:(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll see how that
goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program. SageKey is
a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield products to
provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also don't allow your
application to get screwed up by having the wrong version of Access already
(or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it comes
to having a professional looking installation that actually works on every
PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts down
tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5 years now and
can honestly say I have had little if any problem with installations or
version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for the long run it pays
for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access, but a
different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere with their
version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way 
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

--
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Oct  1 14:01:45 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:01:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43840752@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

In a function?

MsgBox cstrMessage, vbInformation, cstrTitle
Const cstrMessage As String = _
      "You are not authorized to open this form."
    Const cstrTitle As String = _
      "Restricted Form"

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:42 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


Hi all

Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
have to set it each and everywhere?

I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?

/gustav

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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Oct  1 14:08:36 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:08:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43840753@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

So while we are on the subject, sort of, that last time I used a front
end updater it was the Ted Avery version.  Is there an up to date
version for XP or another alternative out there?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less
expensive.
:(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll see how
that
goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program.
SageKey is
a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield products to
provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also don't allow
your
application to get screwed up by having the wrong version of Access
already
(or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it
comes
to having a professional looking installation that actually works on
every
PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts down
tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5 years now
and
can honestly say I have had little if any problem with installations or
version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for the long run it
pays
for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access,
but a
different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere with
their
version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way 
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

--
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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Fri Oct  1 15:28:27 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:28:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <000001c4a7e6$a7273de0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
Message-ID: <PDEEKCIJDDJOJAKBJBLGCEAPCCAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

In my experience, the Access Runtime is installed in a folder with RT(run
time) in the path.  This differentiates it from a standard Access install.

I have never had any installation problems using Access Runtime and the
Package and Deployment wizard.  But, then again, I only have about 300
installs around the state of Indiana; maybe I haven't tried it enough yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less expensive.
:(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll see how that
goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program. SageKey is
a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield products to
provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also don't allow your
application to get screwed up by having the wrong version of Access already
(or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it comes
to having a professional looking installation that actually works on every
PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts down
tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5 years now and
can honestly say I have had little if any problem with installations or
version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for the long run it pays
for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access, but a
different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere with their
version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

--
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From pedro at plex.nl  Fri Oct  1 13:59:39 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 20:59:39 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] date query
References: <20041001113328.RIJU1790.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000001c4a7fe$694d1e50$f4c581d5@pedro>

Hello Gustav and Susan,

i didn't want to offend anyone.
Its not that i believe that people of the list will
point fingers. Its more that i sometimes don't trust myself
in this list, by showing examples. I know this is a bad excuse.

I will to do better in the future.

Greetings

Pedro Janssen

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From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:33 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] date query


>
> Contrary, sometimes you (anyone) can be blind for the obvious fix which
new
> eyes may catch in a few seconds.
>
> =============My routine is to ask the question and bingo -- light goes on.
> There's something about phrasing the problem as a question that seems to
> trigger something in my brain. And if you could only see the number of SQL
> statements with a misplaced " or & -- you'd know Gustav speaks the truth.
;)
>
>
> Susan H.
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Oct  1 17:21:21 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 17:21:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <PDEEKCIJDDJOJAKBJBLGCEAPCCAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEBHGAAA.john@winhaven.net>

Hi Reuben,
But the big question is - does it work in Illinois?

;o)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


In my experience, the Access Runtime is installed in a folder with RT(run
time) in the path.  This differentiates it from a standard Access install.

I have never had any installation problems using Access Runtime and the
Package and Deployment wizard.  But, then again, I only have about 300
installs around the state of Indiana; maybe I haven't tried it enough yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less expensive.
:(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll see how that
goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program. SageKey is
a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield products to
provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also don't allow your
application to get screwed up by having the wrong version of Access already
(or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it comes
to having a professional looking installation that actually works on every
PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts down
tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5 years now and
can honestly say I have had little if any problem with installations or
version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for the long run it pays
for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access, but a
different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere with their
version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct  1 17:39:09 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:39:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A94@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It isn't the runtime folder that causes the problems using the PD
wizard, it's the fact that it blindly updates dlls, whether or not it
should.  If you're developing on the same platform and against the same
versions that exist on the target machines, you're OK, but it they're
running Office 97 and you're installing runtime 2002, you can run into
headaches unless you use one of the more intelligent installers.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


In my experience, the Access Runtime is installed in a folder with
RT(run
time) in the path.  This differentiates it from a standard Access
install.

I have never had any installation problems using Access Runtime and the
Package and Deployment wizard.  But, then again, I only have about 300
installs around the state of Indiana; maybe I haven't tried it enough
yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less
expensive. :(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll
see how that goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program.
SageKey is a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield
products to provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also
don't allow your application to get screwed up by having the wrong
version of Access already (or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it
comes to having a professional looking installation that actually works
on every PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts
down tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5
years now and can honestly say I have had little if any problem with
installations or version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for
the long run it pays for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access,
but a different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere
with their version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way 
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct  1 17:40:59 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:40:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A95@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It picks up the AppTitle property as the default.  So if your AppTitle
isn't set, you get Microsoft Access as the msgbox title unless you
override it with a title string argument.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:42 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


Hi all

Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
have to set it each and everywhere?

I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?

/gustav

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct  1 17:42:59 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:42:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A96@infoserver01.infostat.local>

That is correct up through Office 2002.  You have to have the developer
*tools* in order to distribute a runtime.  Otherwise, you have no
license to do so.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:kwilliam at ashlandnet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


I guess...if you don't have Developer Edition....out of luck, huh?

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Yes.  You need to include the Access Runtime files with your
application. If you have a copy of Office Developer Edition, these files
will automatically be included if you use the Package and Deployment
Add-In.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way to
publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859




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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct  1 17:45:02 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 15:45:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A97@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The only time they run into problems is if they *don't* use a desktop
shortcut to open the application.  They need a shortcut that points to
the runtime executable as well as to the database it should open.  There
is no actual "interference" between the runtime and an installed
version, but you can't necessarily mix and match.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Williamson [mailto:kwilliam at ashlandnet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access,
but a different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere
with their version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation. 

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From greggs at msn.com  Fri Oct  1 18:38:17 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 18:38:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] BE Compact, Backup, and Server Restart
In-Reply-To: <40ADBB12.11214.50EE316@localhost>
Message-ID: <MOELIKDOANGCHBBIGOLIEEJPEGAA.greggs@msn.com>


We have developed a VB program that will (1) compact an Access Database
using Jet Comp, (2) optionally saves a copy, and (3) optionally restart the
system.  We put it in our customer's server task scheduler to restart the
server, compact the BE, and save a copy.  Anyone interested in using it...
enjoy.  We would love to have some feedback.

http://highimpactsolutions.com/shareware/Default.htm

Below are the technical details.

This program is designed to run from a command line.
The purpose is to compact an Access database using the
JETCOMP.EXE command line arguments with the addition of
-b:{fullpath to backup location} and -r for rebooting the PC.

If the -dest: argument is not found the database will be
compacted to the -src: location.

C:\PROGRA~1\HISCOMP\HISCOMP.EXE -src:"c:\mydb.mdb" -v4 -r
would compact a database to its original location and
reboot the machine.

For a list of command line arguments run
C:\PROGRA~1\HISCOMP\JETCOMP.exe /?



        Gregg Steinbrenner
High Impact Solutions
<http://www.highimpactsolutions.com>
           972-223-4559




From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Fri Oct  1 19:55:59 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 20:55:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIEEBHGAAA.john@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <000901c4a81a$9550c0d0$0200a8c0@COA3>

Is that a variation of "will it play in Peoria?"

I have seen Access RT's from 2.0 forward on OS's from 95 on in all its
variations, and it is damn-near flawless when there is no previous
Office installation.  *However* - if there is another Access version on
the PC, or might be in the future, use a  3rd party install tool.

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 6:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Hi Reuben,
But the big question is - does it work in Illinois?

;o)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


In my experience, the Access Runtime is installed in a folder with
RT(run
time) in the path.  This differentiates it from a standard Access
install.

I have never had any installation problems using Access Runtime and the
Package and Deployment wizard.  But, then again, I only have about 300
installs around the state of Indiana; maybe I haven't tried it enough
yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less
expensive. :(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll
see how that goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program.
SageKey is a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield
products to provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also
don't allow your application to get screwed up by having the wrong
version of Access already (or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it
comes to having a professional looking installation that actually works
on every PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts
down tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5
years now and can honestly say I have had little if any problem with
installations or version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for
the long run it pays for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access,
but a different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere
with their version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way 
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Oct  1 22:03:43 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 23:03:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] date query
In-Reply-To: <000001c4a7fe$694d1e50$f4c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <20041002030343.GPUD1789.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Whatever you're comfortable with. :) 

Susan H. 

Hello Gustav and Susan,

i didn't want to offend anyone.
Its not that i believe that people of the list will point fingers. Its more
that i sometimes don't trust myself in this list, by showing examples. I
know this is a bad excuse.

I will to do better in the future.




From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct  2 04:53:32 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 11:53:32 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43840752@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43840752@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <1586931456.20041002115332@cactus.dk>

Hi Karen

Thanks Karen.
That's similar to what I'm using now.
I was looking for an application wide built in setting.

/gustav


> In a function?

> MsgBox cstrMessage, vbInformation, cstrTitle
> Const cstrMessage As String = _
>       "You are not authorized to open this form."
>     Const cstrTitle As String = _
>       "Restricted Form"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:42 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


> Hi all

> Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
> have to set it each and everywhere?

> I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct  2 04:58:44 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 11:58:44 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A95@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A95@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <827243435.20041002115844@cactus.dk>

Hi Charlotte

Thanks. The only problem is that it doesn't work ...

In the debug window:

? Currentdb.Properties("AppTitle").Value
MyTitle

Still, the title of a messagebox:

  Msgbox "Test"

is "Microsoft Access" and not "MyTitle".

I have done a title bar refresh and even a relaunch with no luck.
What am I missing?

/gustav


> It picks up the AppTitle property as the default.  So if your AppTitle
> isn't set, you get Microsoft Access as the msgbox title unless you
> override it with a title string argument.

> Charlotte Foust


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:42 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


> Hi all

> Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
> have to set it each and everywhere?

> I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct  2 05:28:05 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:28:05 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
In-Reply-To: <827243435.20041002115844@cactus.dk>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A95@infoserver01.infostat.local>
	<827243435.20041002115844@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <639004247.20041002122805@cactus.dk>

Hi Charlotte et all

This property didn't exist if this is what you are referring to:

  CurrentProject.Properties("AppTitle")

But adding it and setting its value to "MyTitle" doesn't make any
difference to the default MsgBox title.

/gustav


> Hi Charlotte

> Thanks. The only problem is that it doesn't work ...

> In the debug window:

> ? Currentdb.Properties("AppTitle").Value
> MyTitle

> Still, the title of a messagebox:

>   Msgbox "Test"

> is "Microsoft Access" and not "MyTitle".

> I have done a title bar refresh and even a relaunch with no luck.
> What am I missing?

> /gustav


>> It picks up the AppTitle property as the default.  So if your AppTitle
>> isn't set, you get Microsoft Access as the msgbox title unless you
>> override it with a title string argument.

>> Charlotte Foust


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:42 AM
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


>> Hi all

>> Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
>> have to set it each and everywhere?

>> I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct  2 08:08:01 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 15:08:01 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API
Message-ID: <17618599514.20041002150801@cactus.dk>

Hi all

For those interested in FTP transfer and classes in Access, go have a
look at this month's open article in Smart Access (beware of line
breaks in URL):

http://www.pinpub.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=Publishing&mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&AudID=C01C1922F71E483AB162D148B15A6F6D&tier=4&id=591D8610892D4BAF96FD4D5EA88C6059

Note: This link is valid this October only.

/gustav



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Oct  2 08:48:12 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 06:48:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <005801c4a886$75a81410$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does the installable file end up being?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



From john at winhaven.net  Sat Oct  2 11:21:44 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 11:21:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
In-Reply-To: <005801c4a886$75a81410$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIOEBNGAAA.john@winhaven.net>

Hi Rocky,
It depends on a lot of things like version of Access, number of MDA, MDE,
MDB, FE, BE, Active X, Add-ons, etc.

I checked an small, basic A97 app with which the installation includes
FE/BE, User manual/instructions(.pdf), A97 runtime, 3 MDA libraries, 2 ocx
files, installation dialogs with custom graphics and options, license
agreements, readme files, the scripts to install the necessary
files/settings to export to text, excel, dbase, the MDAC version I want
installed (which a moot point on most PCs now but better safe than sorry,
adobe acrobat v6, special registry settings, self register ocx files,
install some fonts/icons/shortcuts/program groups, create an uninstall file,
and various other obscure things. I have compiled in a stand alone
Wise/SageKey installation .exe that is useable in W95-WinXP and it is 43MB.

It takes approx. 30 seconds to install if the Acrobat Reader v6 option isn't
selected. The Acrobat file is an install file included within my install
file and is over 15MB as is. Same with the MDAC file which is over 7MB. I
chose to do it this way because I distribute the app on CD so the size just
doesn't matter. If it was distributed via download I would approach it
differently.

Just out of curiosity I made a copy of this folder/script and stripped
everything out except the FE/BE and runtime. The installation .exe was less
then 10MB.

HTH
John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 8:48 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Dear List:

Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable run-time
of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 6MB but
I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does the
installable file end up being?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Oct  2 12:40:30 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:40:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API
In-Reply-To: <17618599514.20041002150801@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000f01c4a8a6$ed51b910$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

How timely.  I'm doing this export project to a mainframe and we have to ftp
the text files to them.

Thanks!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Oct  2 12:47:11 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 10:47:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API
References: <17618599514.20041002150801@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <415EE99F.5@shaw.ca>

Interesting explanation of WinInet but just remember a lot of sites are 
switching to FTPS and SFTP,  so you may have to hook in all the Crypto 
API stuff


Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi all
>
>For those interested in FTP transfer and classes in Access, go have a
>look at this month's open article in Smart Access (beware of line
>breaks in URL):
>
>http://www.pinpub.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=Publishing&mod=Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&AudID=C01C1922F71E483AB162D148B15A6F6D&tier=4&id=591D8610892D4BAF96FD4D5EA88C6059
>
>Note: This link is valid this October only.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From dw-murphy at cox.net  Sat Oct  2 12:56:50 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 10:56:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
In-Reply-To: <005801c4a886$75a81410$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <000001c4a8a9$31d26d30$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Rocky,

We are using Wise and Sagekey for our Access 2002 install. The installer
file overhead is 40M, which includes all the MS runtime stuff.  I user the
Sagekey script that does not install Internet Explorer.

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Dear List:

Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable run-time
of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 6MB but
I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does the
installable file end up being?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Oct  2 14:59:30 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:59:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
References: <000001c4a8a9$31d26d30$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>
Message-ID: <00ca01c4a8ba$57193630$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Doug:

Thanks.  Is that a switchable option (the IE thing) or do you have to buy it
like that?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> Rocky,
>
> We are using Wise and Sagekey for our Access 2002 install. The installer
> file overhead is 40M, which includes all the MS runtime stuff.  I user the
> Sagekey script that does not install Internet Explorer.
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
run-time
> of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 6MB
but
> I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does the
> installable file end up being?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> -- 
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
> -- 
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



From dw-murphy at cox.net  Sat Oct  2 15:39:33 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 13:39:33 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
In-Reply-To: <00ca01c4a8ba$57193630$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <001c01c4a8bf$f051f760$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

The downloadable version of the scripts, the one we use, only requires IE4
which should be on any machine that our software is put on.  This script
does not install IE.  If you use ADO library 2.6 you will need to use the CD
version of the scripts and it does load IE which includes MDAC 2.6.  I
suspect the CD version of the scripts includes both packages.   

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 12:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Doug:

Thanks.  Is that a switchable option (the IE thing) or do you have to buy it
like that?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> Rocky,
>
> We are using Wise and Sagekey for our Access 2002 install. The 
> installer file overhead is 40M, which includes all the MS runtime 
> stuff.  I user the Sagekey script that does not install Internet 
> Explorer.
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
run-time
> of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 
> 6MB
but
> I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does 
> the installable file end up being?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
> --
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Oct  2 19:20:31 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 17:20:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
References: <001c01c4a8bf$f051f760$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>
Message-ID: <011301c4a8de$cb828070$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Doug:

When you say it only requires IE4 does that mean that IE4 must be present on
the target machine?  What if it's not there?  What if they have a later
version?

TIA

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> The downloadable version of the scripts, the one we use, only requires IE4
> which should be on any machine that our software is put on.  This script
> does not install IE.  If you use ADO library 2.6 you will need to use the
CD
> version of the scripts and it does load IE which includes MDAC 2.6.  I
> suspect the CD version of the scripts includes both packages.
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 12:59 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Doug:
>
> Thanks.  Is that a switchable option (the IE thing) or do you have to buy
it
> like that?
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:56 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> > Rocky,
> >
> > We are using Wise and Sagekey for our Access 2002 install. The
> > installer file overhead is 40M, which includes all the MS runtime
> > stuff.  I user the Sagekey script that does not install Internet
> > Explorer.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> > Smolin - Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> run-time
> > of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about
> > 6MB
> but
> > I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does
> > the installable file end up being?
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
> -- 
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
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From Helmut.E.Kotsch at t-online.de  Sun Oct  3 06:57:56 2004
From: Helmut.E.Kotsch at t-online.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 13:57:56 +0200
Subject: AW: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API
In-Reply-To: <17618599514.20041002150801@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <PBECKMGOGDJDCPCHBBCIAEBGCKAA.helmut.e.kotsch@t-online.de>

Hi,

has anyone been able to unpack the ZIP file? Is advertised as
"410ZAMFIR.ZIP" downloaded as "410zamfir_SA04j1.zip".
I get failure messages when trying to extract.

Helmut Kotsch


-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Gustav Brock
Gesendet: Samstag, 2. Oktober 2004 15:08
An: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Betreff: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API


Hi all

For those interested in FTP transfer and classes in Access, go have a
look at this month's open article in Smart Access (beware of line
breaks in URL):

http://www.pinpub.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=Publishing&mod=
Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&AudID=C01C192
2F71E483AB162D148B15A6F6D&tier=4&id=591D8610892D4BAF96FD4D5EA88C6059

Note: This link is valid this October only.

/gustav

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct  3 10:34:35 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 11:34:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] way off topic -- Word question
Message-ID: <20041003153456.XNRU1756.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Does anyone have an expression that would print the word count in a header
or footer? 
 
Susan H. 


From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Sun Oct  3 11:31:04 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 12:31:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] way off topic -- Word question
In-Reply-To: <20041003153456.XNRU1756.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIEMMKGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Susan,

  Open the header/footer.  Position to where you want it.  Click
Insert/Field.  In the right hand column, select NumWords

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 11:35 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] way off topic -- Word question


Does anyone have an expression that would print the word count in a header
or footer?

Susan H.
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From conny at qad.se  Sun Oct  3 11:32:32 2004
From: conny at qad.se (Conny Johansson)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 18:32:32 +0200
Subject: SV: [AccessD] way off topic -- Word question
In-Reply-To: <20041003153456.XNRU1756.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20041003163220.B2D2137E4B@smtp2-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net>


{DOCPROPERTY Words \* MERGEFORMAT} 

If you don't use fields then write the text, select the text and hit CTRL +
F9 to make it a field {} 

Conny Johansson 

-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- 
Fr?n: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] F?r Susan Harkins 
Skickat: den 3 oktober 2004 17:35 
Till: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
?mne: [AccessD] way off topic -- Word question 

Does anyone have an expression that would print the word count in a header
or footer? 
  
Susan H. 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct  3 11:34:30 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 12:34:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] way off topic -- Word question
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKIEMMKGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20041003163429.UAWW1786.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Of for Pete's sakes... <blushing in shame>

Thank you Jim. 

Susan H. 

  Open the header/footer.  Position to where you want it.  Click
Insert/Field.  In the right hand column, select NumWords




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Oct  3 12:09:51 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:09:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API
In-Reply-To: <PBECKMGOGDJDCPCHBBCIAEBGCKAA.helmut.e.kotsch@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <001201c4a96b$d08d9130$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I did unzip it, yes.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 7:58 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: AW: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API


Hi,

has anyone been able to unpack the ZIP file? Is advertised as
"410ZAMFIR.ZIP" downloaded as "410zamfir_SA04j1.zip". I get failure messages
when trying to extract.

Helmut Kotsch


-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Gustav Brock
Gesendet: Samstag, 2. Oktober 2004 15:08
An: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Betreff: [AccessD] FTP class using WinINET API


Hi all

For those interested in FTP transfer and classes in Access, go have a look
at this month's open article in Smart Access (beware of line breaks in URL):

http://www.pinpub.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=Publishing&mod=
Publications%3A%3AArticle&mid=8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791&AudID=C01C192
2F71E483AB162D148B15A6F6D&tier=4&id=591D8610892D4BAF96FD4D5EA88C6059

Note: This link is valid this October only.

/gustav

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From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct  3 12:24:13 2004
From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 13:24:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 Runtime on Windows NT Not Showing Bitmap Images
	in Reports
Message-ID: <007d01c4a96d$d084f3c0$6501a8c0@tbig1>

Recently, a client has complained that a custom app I developed for them has
quit displaying bitmap images in reports.

They are using an Access 97 Runtime on Windows NT.

Anyone have any ideas on why this would happen?

TIA,

Myke




From dw-murphy at cox.net  Sun Oct  3 12:37:38 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 10:37:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
In-Reply-To: <011301c4a8de$cb828070$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <000601c4a96f$b0c8a520$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Rocky,

My understanding is that IE is present on all windows machines.  The Access
2002 runtime will only work on Windows 98 and later operating systems.  I
belive that IE 4 or 5 came as part of Windows 98.  We have had no issues
with not installing IE with our package.

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Doug:

When you say it only requires IE4 does that mean that IE4 must be present on
the target machine?  What if it's not there?  What if they have a later
version?

TIA

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> The downloadable version of the scripts, the one we use, only requires 
> IE4 which should be on any machine that our software is put on.  This 
> script does not install IE.  If you use ADO library 2.6 you will need 
> to use the
CD
> version of the scripts and it does load IE which includes MDAC 2.6.  I 
> suspect the CD version of the scripts includes both packages.
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 12:59 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Doug:
>
> Thanks.  Is that a switchable option (the IE thing) or do you have to 
> buy
it
> like that?
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:56 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> > Rocky,
> >
> > We are using Wise and Sagekey for our Access 2002 install. The 
> > installer file overhead is 40M, which includes all the MS runtime 
> > stuff.  I user the Sagekey script that does not install Internet 
> > Explorer.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> > Smolin - Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> run-time
> > of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 
> > 6MB
> but
> > I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does 
> > the installable file end up being?
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Oct  3 12:46:13 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 19:46:13 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 Runtime on Windows NT Not Showing Bitmap
	Images in Reports
In-Reply-To: <007d01c4a96d$d084f3c0$6501a8c0@tbig1>
References: <007d01c4a96d$d084f3c0$6501a8c0@tbig1>
Message-ID: <14134597578.20041003194613@cactus.dk>

Hi Myke

It could be a printer or screen driver problem, or perhaps the mdb
file needs a compact.

/gustav


> Recently, a client has complained that a custom app I developed for them has
> quit displaying bitmap images in reports.

> They are using an Access 97 Runtime on Windows NT.



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Oct  3 13:44:48 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 14:44:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Cross posted - Folding@home
Message-ID: <001301c4a979$12b14180$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

I just wanted to call everyone's attention to Folding at home.  I know a lot of
you know about this project, I did and got involved for awhile (through
Google's team I think) but over time forgot about it.  

http://folding.stanford.edu/

Folding at home is a project by Stanford University which essentially builds a
mega super computer created by using our home / office computers to form a
huge network capable of thousands of times more processing power than even
the largest dedicated super computers.  

http://folding.stanford.edu/stats.html

Will take you directly to a page where you can see some statistics for the
supercomputer as it exists at this instant in time.

This system downloads an executable onto a computer which runs in the idle
thread.  This means that while the CPU utilized jumps to 100%, it is all
idle time ad if your programs need CPU cycles folding at home will not
interfere with your program in any way.

I had 4 3ghz computers sitting in my home office doing nothing.  They are
now contributing to mankind's knowledgebase.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 




From serbach at new.rr.com  Sun Oct  3 14:55:04 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 14:55:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
Message-ID: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dear Group,

I helped a friend get MS Office 2000 up and running on his PC yesterday after his PC vendor re-formatted the drive (virus infestation) and re-installed Windows XP Home w/SP2. This system also has a canned Access application that installs Access 2000 Runtime. I installed that AFTER I'd upgraded Office 2000 to SP3. That took a bit of trial and error. Whenever the Runtime install asked about overwriting existing DLLs I told it NO.

Now when my friend runs the Access applications that he uses (his wife runs the Access Runtime app), his reports come out funny. That is, for all the text boxes that contain numerals (phone numbers, dates, currency, other numbers), the FORMATTING of the data (e.g., parentheses around negatives, dollar signs and decimals for currency, slashes for dates, hyphens and slashes for phone numbers) appear in the report preview, but there are NO NUMERALS! The dollar signs are at varying distances from the decimal points as if there are numbers there, but no numerals are visible.

The fields on the reports are all VISIBLE. As an experiment, I tried changing the background color to yellow and the text color to red for one of the text box objects in design mode. But when I preview the report, the format symbols are red but the background is still white, not yellow. I change the font weight to Bold and I see bold dollar signs and decimal points. I add a shadow border around the text box, but that doesn't show up in preview mode. I change the text alignment to Left, and all the dollar signs line up on the left...but still no numbers.

I've checked the query. All the numbers are there. Again, this is just for fields that have numerals in them. The names of the individuals are there in the report preview, just no numbers or dates or phone numbers (except for the formatting symbols).

What does this sound like to you?

Thanks,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI




From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 05:12:20 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 05:12:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cross posted - Folding@home
In-Reply-To: <001301c4a979$12b14180$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <001301c4a979$12b14180$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20041004051220.976313251.serbach@new.rr.com>

John,

>> http://folding.stanford.edu/ <<

Sounds similar to the seti at home project.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI




From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 05:14:57 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 05:14:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>

Dear Group,

Some additional info on this: I suspect that it has something to do with the fact that Office 2000 Premium (w/Access) and Access Runtime 2000 have been installed and un-installed and re-installed on this system.

Moreover, anything on a report has numbers on it, even a street address, will appear without the numbers. Page x of y, a long-format date, etc.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI




From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Oct  4 07:58:10 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:58:10 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

Did you carefully look up the archive on this?
I faintly recall a similar situation.

/gustav


> Dear Group,

> Some additional info on this: I suspect that it has something to do with the fact that Office 2000 Premium (w/Access) and Access Runtime 2000 have been installed and un-installed and re-installed
> on this system.

> Moreover, anything on a report has numbers on it, even a street address, will appear without the numbers. Page x of y, a long-format date, etc.

> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI



From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Oct  4 08:01:48 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:01:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEOAKGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Steve,

  First thing I check is the regional settings in Windows.  If all look OK, change one of them, then change it back.  There was an old Windows bug related to this.  Might still be in XP.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steven W.
Erbach
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 3:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers


Dear Group,

I helped a friend get MS Office 2000 up and running on his PC yesterday after his PC vendor re-formatted the drive (virus infestation) and re-installed Windows XP Home w/SP2. This system also has a canned Access application that installs Access 2000 Runtime. I installed that AFTER I'd upgraded Office 2000 to SP3. That took a bit of trial and error. Whenever the Runtime install asked about overwriting existing DLLs I told it NO.

Now when my friend runs the Access applications that he uses (his wife runs the Access Runtime app), his reports come out funny. That is, for all the text boxes that contain numerals (phone numbers, dates, currency, other numbers), the FORMATTING of the data (e.g., parentheses around negatives, dollar signs and decimals for currency, slashes for dates, hyphens and slashes for phone numbers) appear in the report preview, but there are NO NUMERALS! The dollar signs are at varying distances from the decimal points as if there are numbers there, but no numerals are visible.

The fields on the reports are all VISIBLE. As an experiment, I tried changing the background color to yellow and the text color to red for one of the text box objects in design mode. But when I preview the report, the format symbols are red but the background is still white, not yellow. I change the font weight to Bold and I see bold dollar signs and decimal points. I add a shadow border around the text box, but that doesn't show up in preview mode. I change the text alignment to Left, and all the dollar signs line up on the left...but still no numbers.

I've checked the query. All the numbers are there. Again, this is just for fields that have numerals in them. The names of the individuals are there in the report preview, just no numbers or dates or phone numbers (except for the formatting symbols).

What does this sound like to you?

Thanks,

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Mon Oct  4 08:56:25 2004
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 08:56:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
In-Reply-To: <000901c4a81a$9550c0d0$0200a8c0@COA3>
Message-ID: <PDEEKCIJDDJOJAKBJBLGEEBKCCAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I have to think the problems result from what type of use do the other
versions of Access get on the PC with runtime installed.

I have installed runtime on computers before and after Access 97 thru 02
were installed and never have had a problem.  However, these clients are not
using Access much (or if at all).  So I probably am not qualified to argue
either way on dll problems.

Now, concerning Illinois.  I can't vouch for how the Illini can handle such
issues.  But I know we, as Boilers, not Hoosiers, have very few problems.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steve Conklin
(Developer at UltraDNT)
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 7:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Is that a variation of "will it play in Peoria?"

I have seen Access RT's from 2.0 forward on OS's from 95 on in all its
variations, and it is damn-near flawless when there is no previous
Office installation.  *However* - if there is another Access version on
the PC, or might be in the future, use a  3rd party install tool.

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 6:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Hi Reuben,
But the big question is - does it work in Illinois?

;o)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


In my experience, the Access Runtime is installed in a folder with
RT(run
time) in the path.  This differentiates it from a standard Access
install.

I have never had any installation problems using Access Runtime and the
Package and Deployment wizard.  But, then again, I only have about 300
installs around the state of Indiana; maybe I haven't tried it enough
yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less
expensive. :(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll
see how that goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program.
SageKey is a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield
products to provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also
don't allow your application to get screwed up by having the wrong
version of Access already (or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it
comes to having a professional looking installation that actually works
on every PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts
down tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5
years now and can honestly say I have had little if any problem with
installations or version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for
the long run it pays for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access,
but a different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere
with their version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Mon Oct  4 09:24:40 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:24:40 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Publishing Application
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB797@nprdex02.nns.com>

"will it play in Peoria?"


I used to resemble that remark:)


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) [mailto:Developer at ultradnt.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 8:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Is that a variation of "will it play in Peoria?"

I have seen Access RT's from 2.0 forward on OS's from 95 on in all its
variations, and it is damn-near flawless when there is no previous
Office installation.  *However* - if there is another Access version on
the PC, or might be in the future, use a  3rd party install tool.

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 6:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Hi Reuben,
But the big question is - does it work in Illinois?

;o)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


In my experience, the Access Runtime is installed in a folder with
RT(run
time) in the path.  This differentiates it from a standard Access
install.

I have never had any installation problems using Access Runtime and the
Package and Deployment wizard.  But, then again, I only have about 300
installs around the state of Indiana; maybe I haven't tried it enough
yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....thanks.  I was hoping there was something a little less
expensive. :(  I really don't intend to do this too often.....but we'll
see how that goes.

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Keith,
This is where the Wise Install Builder & SageKey Scripts come into play.
Basically; Wise is a full-blown installation development program.
SageKey is a company that writes scripts for the Wise or Install Shield
products to provide foolproof Access Runtime Installations - which also
don't allow your application to get screwed up by having the wrong
version of Access already (or later) installed on the end user PC.

This is a costly venture to be sure, but it is well worth it when it
comes to having a professional looking installation that actually works
on every PC regardless of what the end user has installed. And it cuts
down tremendously on the support issues. I've used this combo for 5
years now and can honestly say I have had little if any problem with
installations or version conflict. So, in essence, if you're in it for
the long run it pays for itself.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Publishing Application


Okay....let me ask this....What happens if the user Does have access,
but a different version.  Will the Access Runtime (for 2002) interfere
with their version of Access?

Thanks,

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Publishing Application


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:28:20 -0400, Keith Williamson
<kwilliam at ashlandnet.com> wrote:
> Okay...this may seem like a stupid question.  But....is there any way 
> to publish an Access application to people that don't have MS Access??

Create an Access Runtime installation.

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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Mon Oct  4 10:21:56 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 11:21:56 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] LDB File, Orphaned Logins
Message-ID: <833956F5C117124A89417638FDB11290EBD2C7@goexchange.pghcorning.com>

Hello all,

I have a database that has been working for almost 2 years now with no
trouble.  It is split, with security.  Both BE and FE share same MDW file.
There have been no changes to this database for about a year.  Recently the
users are complaining about it becoming slow.  I looked into some things,
compressed and repair FE and BE.  Still no luck.  

I noticed that even though everyone was out of the database that there were
still LDB files (1 for BE and 1 for MDW) left on the server.  I opened them
in notepad and saw about 8 users still logged in, 5 of which were the same
person.  I tried to delete the LDB files, of which I got an error "cannot
delete file due to a sharing violation".  I have never had a corrupt
database or LDB file, I'm hoping this isn't my first as this is a fairly
large and complex database.  

Any help on how to clear these users out of the LDB File would be greatly
appreciated.  

Thanks,
Rich


From hoopesg at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  4 10:59:03 2004
From: hoopesg at hotmail.com (Gina Hoopes)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:59:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry
Message-ID: <BAY10-F5xYHLBQhExki00001686@hotmail.com>

I have a form set up to gather information about bank deposits. The user 
enters in all of one type of deposit, then needs to clear the form and start 
over for the next type of deposit. I hate to maker her close and repoen the 
form just to clear it out. I've got a procedure that archives all of the 
records to a history folder but I can't figure out how to keep the screen 
from showing #Deleted# in all of the fields once the table gets cleared out 
to accept the new deposit. I tried turning off the Echo but it didn't do a 
thing, and I've tried a Requery but no luck. For a couple of business-rule 
reasons I can't just put a new field in for "deposit type", we actually need 
to clear the table and process the data and give them a clean form for the 
next deposit. Can someone tell me where I'm screwing up?

Thanks,
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct  4 11:03:17 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:03:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

No, I think Win98 still had IE 2.x or 3.x.  Version 4 and later didn't
come along until later.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Murphy [mailto:dw-murphy at cox.net] 
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 10:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Rocky,

My understanding is that IE is present on all windows machines.  The
Access 2002 runtime will only work on Windows 98 and later operating
systems.  I belive that IE 4 or 5 came as part of Windows 98.  We have
had no issues with not installing IE with our package.

Doug

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 5:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Doug:

When you say it only requires IE4 does that mean that IE4 must be
present on the target machine?  What if it's not there?  What if they
have a later version?

TIA

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> The downloadable version of the scripts, the one we use, only requires
> IE4 which should be on any machine that our software is put on.  This 
> script does not install IE.  If you use ADO library 2.6 you will need 
> to use the
CD
> version of the scripts and it does load IE which includes MDAC 2.6.  I
> suspect the CD version of the scripts includes both packages.
>
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 12:59 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Doug:
>
> Thanks.  Is that a switchable option (the IE thing) or do you have to
> buy
it
> like that?
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:56 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> > Rocky,
> >
> > We are using Wise and Sagekey for our Access 2002 install. The
> > installer file overhead is 40M, which includes all the MS runtime 
> > stuff.  I user the Sagekey script that does not install Internet 
> > Explorer.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> > Smolin - Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> run-time
> > of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about
> > 6MB
> but
> > I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does
> > the installable file end up being?
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct  4 11:09:24 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:09:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along with
the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some custom
libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything fits
nicely on a CD.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Dear List:

Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only
about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How
big does the installable file end up being?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Oct  4 11:26:12 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 12:26:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry
In-Reply-To: <BAY10-F5xYHLBQhExki00001686@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c4aa2e$e11761c0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Just put a me.requery in the afterdelete method.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gina Hoopes
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:59 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry


I have a form set up to gather information about bank deposits. The user 
enters in all of one type of deposit, then needs to clear the form and start

over for the next type of deposit. I hate to maker her close and repoen the 
form just to clear it out. I've got a procedure that archives all of the 
records to a history folder but I can't figure out how to keep the screen 
from showing #Deleted# in all of the fields once the table gets cleared out 
to accept the new deposit. I tried turning off the Echo but it didn't do a 
thing, and I've tried a Requery but no luck. For a couple of business-rule 
reasons I can't just put a new field in for "deposit type", we actually need

to clear the table and process the data and give them a clean form for the 
next deposit. Can someone tell me where I'm screwing up?

Thanks,
Gina

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 11:28:36 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:28:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry
References: <BAY10-F5xYHLBQhExki00001686@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <017701c4aa2f$330ea880$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Gina:

If it's a bound form can't you just GoTo acNewRecord after the data in the
form is saved?

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


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From: "Gina Hoopes" <hoopesg at hotmail.com>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 8:59 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry


> I have a form set up to gather information about bank deposits. The user
> enters in all of one type of deposit, then needs to clear the form and
start
> over for the next type of deposit. I hate to maker her close and repoen
the
> form just to clear it out. I've got a procedure that archives all of the
> records to a history folder but I can't figure out how to keep the screen
> from showing #Deleted# in all of the fields once the table gets cleared
out
> to accept the new deposit. I tried turning off the Echo but it didn't do a
> thing, and I've tried a Requery but no luck. For a couple of business-rule
> reasons I can't just put a new field in for "deposit type", we actually
need
> to clear the table and process the data and give them a clean form for the
> next deposit. Can someone tell me where I'm screwing up?
>
> Thanks,
> Gina
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Oct  4 11:29:35 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 18:29:35 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry
In-Reply-To: <BAY10-F5xYHLBQhExki00001686@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY10-F5xYHLBQhExki00001686@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3234679676.20041004182935@cactus.dk>

Hi Gina

Try:

    With Me
      .Painting = False
      ' run your clean up code.
      .Requery
      .Painting = True
    End With

/gustav


> I have a form set up to gather information about bank deposits. The user 
> enters in all of one type of deposit, then needs to clear the form and start 
> over for the next type of deposit. I hate to maker her close and repoen the 
> form just to clear it out. I've got a procedure that archives all of the 
> records to a history folder but I can't figure out how to keep the screen 
> from showing #Deleted# in all of the fields once the table gets cleared out 
> to accept the new deposit. I tried turning off the Echo but it didn't do a 
> thing, and I've tried a Requery but no luck. For a couple of business-rule 
> reasons I can't just put a new field in for "deposit type", we actually need 
> to clear the table and process the data and give them a clean form for the 
> next deposit. Can someone tell me where I'm screwing up?



From hoopesg at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  4 11:45:47 2004
From: hoopesg at hotmail.com (Gina Hoopes)
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 11:45:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry
Message-ID: <BAY10-F56XSXCWV8S0g0002a586@hotmail.com>

Perfect! Thanks, Gustav!

Gina

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Clearing form for next entry

Hi Gina

Try:

     With Me
       .Painting = False
       ' run your clean up code.
       .Requery
       .Painting = True
     End With

/gustav


 > I have a form set up to gather information about bank deposits. The
 > user enters in all of one type of deposit, then needs to clear the
 > form and start over for the next type of deposit. I hate to maker her
 > close and repoen the form just to clear it out. I've got a procedure
 > that archives all of the records to a history folder but I can't
 > figure out how to keep the screen from showing #Deleted# in all of the

 > fields once the table gets cleared out to accept the new deposit. I
 > tried turning off the Echo but it didn't do a thing, and I've tried a
 > Requery but no luck. For a couple of business-rule reasons I can't
 > just put a new field in for "deposit type", we actually need to clear
 > the table and process the data and give them a clean form for the next
deposit. Can someone tell me where I'm screwing up?

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From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 12:10:06 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:10:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041004121006.1004197457.serbach@new.rr.com>

Gustav,

Well, I've asked a few questinos of the archives, but I get messages dealing with page numbering and text box length. I tried "invisible number" and got a lot of messages with the word "invisible" in them. How careful should I be?

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI


> ------------Original Message------------
> From: Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Date: Mon, Oct-4-2004 8:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
> 
> Hi Steven
> 
> Did you carefully look up the archive on this?
> I faintly recall a similar situation.
> 
> /gustav
> 
>




From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 12:11:09 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:11:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEOAKGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKKEOAKGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20041004121109.1122793450.serbach@new.rr.com>

Jim,

I did look at the Regional Settings but I didn't change any of them. Worth a shot. Thanks. I'll pass it along to my friend.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI




From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Mon Oct  4 12:53:17 2004
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:53:17 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] LDB File, Orphaned Logins (Resolved)
Message-ID: <833956F5C117124A89417638FDB11290EBD2C9@goexchange.pghcorning.com>

Well I walked over to the network administrator and ask if he could reboot
the server for me, as I remembered reading somewhere some time ago (can't
remember where) that sometimes you may need to reboot the machine to delete
the LDB file.  In doing so, he opened his Active Directory User Interface
and went to the server in question.  He looked to see who was logged in,
then he went into Sessions, there he could see every file that everyone is
using.  At the top of the list were all my users (including the one with 5
sessions running against the same LDB and MDW file).  I ask him if he could
manually close these files and said only if I know they weren't using them.
I knew everyone was out of the system because of the problem so we did it.  
I ask a user to log in and out to give the database a chance to clean up its
own LDB files and sure enough it did.  And the speed is back to what it
should be.  

I don't know if I stumbled upon anything in looking at the sessions of a
server but it might be worth noting for anyone out there that has an issue
with Orphaned users in LDB file.

Thanks for all who responded,

Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: Lavsa, Rich [mailto:Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:22 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] LDB File, Orphaned Logins


Hello all,

I have a database that has been working for almost 2 years now with no
trouble.  It is split, with security.  Both BE and FE share same MDW file.
There have been no changes to this database for about a year.  Recently the
users are complaining about it becoming slow.  I looked into some things,
compressed and repair FE and BE.  Still no luck.  

I noticed that even though everyone was out of the database that there were
still LDB files (1 for BE and 1 for MDW) left on the server.  I opened them
in notepad and saw about 8 users still logged in, 5 of which were the same
person.  I tried to delete the LDB files, of which I got an error "cannot
delete file due to a sharing violation".  I have never had a corrupt
database or LDB file, I'm hoping this isn't my first as this is a fairly
large and complex database.  

Any help on how to clear these users out of the LDB File would be greatly
appreciated.  

Thanks,
Rich
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From Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil  Mon Oct  4 11:43:54 2004
From: Christian.Brock at hoffman.army.mil (Brock, Christian T, HRC-Alexandria)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:43:54 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <BA5DA1A16B16DB41A9A145E7A062C68A0AC2@ahrc01b1e0151.hoffman.army.mil>

With Access 97, Wise InstallBuilder 8.1, using Sagekey's script for Access
97, I have one application who's files add up to 5.09MB that is turned into
a 10.6 MB installation file. 

Christian Brock



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From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Saturday, 02 October 2004 09:48
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Dear List:

Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable run-time
of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 6MB but
I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does the
installable file end up being?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Oct  4 13:33:55 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:33:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
In-Reply-To: <BA5DA1A16B16DB41A9A145E7A062C68A0AC2@ahrc01b1e0151.hoffman.army.mil>
Message-ID: <LPBBLAKMHEDAKJKENHKIAEDBGAAA.john@winhaven.net>

Hi Christian,
Just an FYI.

I recently upgraded my Wise InstallBuilder 8.1 to Wise Installation System 9
for a VERY reasonable price. Don't know if they're still offering it but its
worth a check.

HTH
John B.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Brock,
Christian T, HRC-Alexandria
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:44 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


With Access 97, Wise InstallBuilder 8.1, using Sagekey's script for Access
97, I have one application who's files add up to 5.09MB that is turned into
a 10.6 MB installation file.

Christian Brock



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From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Saturday, 02 October 2004 09:48
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Dear List:

Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable run-time
of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about 6MB but
I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does the
installable file end up being?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 14:06:45 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:06:45 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <020301c4aa45$4af12700$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Charlotte:

I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder Analysis
program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.  And
it would probably be available as a download from our website.

Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is Access?

Rocky

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From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along with
> the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some custom
> libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything fits
> nicely on a CD.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only
> about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How
> big does the installable file end up being?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct  4 15:01:06 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:01:06 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86651A8D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The Access XP runtime is big.  It installs to about an uncompressed 20
Mb of files.  Perhaps a quarter of our installer is the application
files themselves, so say 15 Mb.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 12:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


Charlotte:

I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder Analysis
program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.
And it would probably be available as a download from our website.

Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is Access?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along 
> with the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some 
> custom libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything 
> fits nicely on a CD.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable 
> run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is 
> only about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged 
> along.  How big does the installable file end up being?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct  4 15:03:48 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:03:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I think I'm the one missing things!  Somewhere along the way, probably
in the switch from Access Basic to VBA, that seems to have changed.  I
think I would create a messagebox class and have it pass the app title
as the default title to the actual function if I wanted to avoid having
to supply it myself.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 3:28 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


Hi Charlotte et all

This property didn't exist if this is what you are referring to:

  CurrentProject.Properties("AppTitle")

But adding it and setting its value to "MyTitle" doesn't make any
difference to the default MsgBox title.

/gustav


> Hi Charlotte

> Thanks. The only problem is that it doesn't work ...

> In the debug window:

> ? Currentdb.Properties("AppTitle").Value
> MyTitle

> Still, the title of a messagebox:

>   Msgbox "Test"

> is "Microsoft Access" and not "MyTitle".

> I have done a title bar refresh and even a relaunch with no luck. What

> am I missing?

> /gustav


>> It picks up the AppTitle property as the default.  So if your 
>> AppTitle isn't set, you get Microsoft Access as the msgbox title 
>> unless you override it with a title string argument.

>> Charlotte Foust


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:42 AM
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


>> Hi all

>> Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
>> have to set it each and everywhere?

>> I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?

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From marcus at tsstech.com  Mon Oct  4 16:18:22 2004
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 17:18:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D339E1F@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

<<I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder
Analysis program to people without Access.

Now that's a lot of people. VBG
Aer you hoping that the Analysis program puts them to sleep? <Huge Grin>


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey

Charlotte:

I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder Analysis
program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.
And it would probably be available as a download from our website.

Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is Access?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along
with
> the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some custom
> libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything fits
> nicely on a CD.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is
only
> about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.
How
> big does the installable file end up being?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 16:44:25 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:44:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86651A8D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <032201c4aa5b$51c61b60$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Well, overhead of 20 ain't too bad.  Our app is only about 3-4MB and there's
no ocx files, MDAC, none of that stuff.  Just real plain vanilla Access.
Oh, yeah, DAO.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> The Access XP runtime is big.  It installs to about an uncompressed 20
> Mb of files.  Perhaps a quarter of our installer is the application
> files themselves, so say 15 Mb.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 12:07 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Charlotte:
>
> I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder Analysis
> program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.
> And it would probably be available as a download from our website.
>
> Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is Access?
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> > Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along
> > with the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some
> > custom libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything
> > fits nicely on a CD.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> > run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is
> > only about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged
> > along.  How big does the installable file end up being?
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > -- 
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 16:45:10 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:45:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
References: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D339E1F@2003exchg.TSS.AD>
Message-ID: <032801c4aa5b$6c93d4f0$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

If it does then they're cured, and we move from Analysis to treatment.

How are YOU sleeping these days?

Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Marcus" <marcus at tsstech.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> <<I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder
> Analysis program to people without Access.
>
> Now that's a lot of people. VBG
> Aer you hoping that the Analysis program puts them to sleep? <Huge Grin>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 3:07 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
> Charlotte:
>
> I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder Analysis
> program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.
> And it would probably be available as a download from our website.
>
> Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is Access?
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> > Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along
> with
> > the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some custom
> > libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything fits
> > nicely on a CD.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> > run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is
> only
> > about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.
> How
> > big does the installable file end up being?
> >
> > MTIA
> >
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >
> > -- 
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > -- 
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> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 16:46:05 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:46:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FOR JOE HECHT Fw: Returned mail: see transcript for
	details
Message-ID: <034301c4aa5b$8d22f200$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Joe:

I tried to send you a Sleep Doctor but got this back.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:28 PM
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details


> The original message was received at Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:28:07 -0700 (PDT)
> from 24-25-217-158.san.rr.com [24.25.217.158]
>
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> <jmhla%@earthlink.net>
>     (reason: 550 jmhla%@earthlink.net...User unknown)
>
>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> ... while talking to mx5.earthlink.net.:
> >>> RCPT To:<jmhla%@earthlink.net>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct  4 16:47:51 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:47:51 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If they still can't sleep, someone can drop the installer on their
heads! LOL

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Marcus [mailto:marcus at tsstech.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


<<I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder
Analysis program to people without Access.

Now that's a lot of people. VBG
Aer you hoping that the Analysis program puts them to sleep? <Huge Grin>


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey

Charlotte:

I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder Analysis
program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.
And it would probably be available as a download from our website.

Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is Access?

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along
with
> the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some custom 
> libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything fits 
> nicely on a CD.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable 
> run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is
only
> about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.
How
> big does the installable file end up being?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Oct  4 17:43:08 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (dw-murphy at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 18:43:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <20041004224308.CZLJ29837.fed1rmmtao12.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

Could be but the info I have indicates that V4 came out during the Windows 95 era and was part of Windows 98.
> 
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> Date: 2004/10/04 Mon PM 12:03:17 EDT
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> 	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> 
> No, I think Win98 still had IE 2.x or 3.x.  Version 4 and later didn't
> come along until later.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Murphy [mailto:dw-murphy at cox.net] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 10:38 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> 
> 
> Rocky,
> 
> My understanding is that IE is present on all windows machines.  The
> Access 2002 runtime will only work on Windows 98 and later operating
> systems.  I belive that IE 4 or 5 came as part of Windows 98.  We have
> had no issues with not installing IE with our package.
> 
> Doug
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 5:21 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> 
> 
> Doug:
> 
> When you say it only requires IE4 does that mean that IE4 must be
> present on the target machine?  What if it's not there?  What if they
> have a later version?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Rocky
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 1:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> 
> 
> > The downloadable version of the scripts, the one we use, only requires
> > IE4 which should be on any machine that our software is put on.  This 
> > script does not install IE.  If you use ADO library 2.6 you will need 
> > to use the
> CD
> > version of the scripts and it does load IE which includes MDAC 2.6.  I
> > suspect the CD version of the scripts includes both packages.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> > Smolin - Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 12:59 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > Doug:
> >
> > Thanks.  Is that a switchable option (the IE thing) or do you have to
> > buy
> it
> > like that?
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:56 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > > Rocky,
> > >
> > > We are using Wise and Sagekey for our Access 2002 install. The
> > > installer file overhead is 40M, which includes all the MS runtime 
> > > stuff.  I user the Sagekey script that does not install Internet 
> > > Explorer.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> > > Smolin - Beach Access Software
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear List:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> > run-time
> > > of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is only about
> > > 6MB
> > but
> > > I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged along.  How big does
> > > the installable file end up being?
> > >
> > > MTIA
> > >
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> >
> > --
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> > --
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> 
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Oct  4 17:53:45 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (dw-murphy at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 18:53:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
Message-ID: <20041004225345.CQL24687.fed1rmmtao05.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

Rocky,

I may have missed the message that said what version of Access you are using.  If your using XP or 3003 I think your package is going to be 50 meg or larger.

Doug
> 
> From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> Date: 2004/10/04 Mon PM 05:44:25 EDT
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> 	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> 
> Well, overhead of 20 ain't too bad.  Our app is only about 3-4MB and there's
> no ocx files, MDAC, none of that stuff.  Just real plain vanilla Access.
> Oh, yeah, DAO.
> 
> Rocky
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 1:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> 
> 
> > The Access XP runtime is big.  It installs to about an uncompressed 20
> > Mb of files.  Perhaps a quarter of our installer is the application
> > files themselves, so say 15 Mb.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 12:07 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > Charlotte:
> >
> > I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder Analysis
> > program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.
> > And it would probably be available as a download from our website.
> >
> > Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is Access?
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > > Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along
> > > with the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some
> > > custom libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.  Everything
> > > fits nicely on a CD.
> > >
> > > Charlotte Foust
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear List:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> > > run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is
> > > only about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged
> > > along.  How big does the installable file end up being?
> > >
> > > MTIA
> > >
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> > >
> > > --
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > -- 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> >
> > -- 
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > -- 
> > _______________________________________________
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> 
> -- 
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> 



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Oct  4 20:40:48 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 18:40:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
References: <20041004225345.CQL24687.fed1rmmtao05.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>
Message-ID: <036601c4aa7c$5765ea20$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Doug:

I'm using A2K.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dw-murphy at cox.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey


> Rocky,
>
> I may have missed the message that said what version of Access you are
using.  If your using XP or 3003 I think your package is going to be 50 meg
or larger.
>
> Doug
> >
> > From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
> > Date: 2004/10/04 Mon PM 05:44:25 EDT
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> > Well, overhead of 20 ain't too bad.  Our app is only about 3-4MB and
there's
> > no ocx files, MDAC, none of that stuff.  Just real plain vanilla Access.
> > Oh, yeah, DAO.
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 1:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> >
> >
> > > The Access XP runtime is big.  It installs to about an uncompressed 20
> > > Mb of files.  Perhaps a quarter of our installer is the application
> > > files themselves, so say 15 Mb.
> > >
> > > Charlotte Foust
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 12:07 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> > >
> > >
> > > Charlotte:
> > >
> > > I'm thinking about sending out beta tests of our Sleep Disorder
Analysis
> > > program to people without Access.  So it would have to be a run time.
> > > And it would probably be available as a download from our website.
> > >
> > > Do you know of that 60MB how much is your stuff and how much is
Access?
> > >
> > > Rocky
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:09 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ours run about 60Mb, which includes graphics and help files, along
> > > > with the runtime files.  We include some custom controls and some
> > > > custom libraries as well as test data that can be loaded.
Everything
> > > > fits nicely on a CD.
> > > >
> > > > Charlotte Foust
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
[mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:48 AM
> > > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > Subject: [AccessD] Size of Installable with SageKey
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear List:
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know what the overhead is when you make an installable
> > > > run-time of an access mde with the Wise/Sagekey combo?  The mde is
> > > > only about 6MB but I know a lot of access stuff has to be dragged
> > > > along.  How big does the installable file end up being?
> > > >
> > > > MTIA
> > > >
> > > > Rocky Smolin
> > > > Beach Access Software
> > > > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > AccessD mailing list
> > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > > -- 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > AccessD mailing list
> > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > >
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> >
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> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Oct  5 00:13:52 2004
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 22:13:52 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FOR JOE HECHT Fw: Returned mail: see transcript
	fordetails
In-Reply-To: <034301c4aa5b$8d22f200$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <200410050513.i955DfL06830@databaseadvisors.com>

Where did the % sign come from? The address is right except for %.

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:46 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] FOR JOE HECHT Fw: Returned mail: see transcript
fordetails

Joe:

I tried to send you a Sleep Doctor but got this back.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mail Delivery Subsystem" <MAILER-DAEMON at ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com>
To: <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:28 PM
Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details


> The original message was received at Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:28:07 -0700 (PDT)
> from 24-25-217-158.san.rr.com [24.25.217.158]
>
>    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <jmhla%@earthlink.net>
>     (reason: 550 jmhla%@earthlink.net...User unknown)
>
>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> ... while talking to mx5.earthlink.net.:
> >>> RCPT To:<jmhla%@earthlink.net>
> <<< 550 jmhla%@earthlink.net...User unknown
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>


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct  5 05:32:43 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 12:32:43 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <7912699991.20041005123243@cactus.dk>

Hi Charlotte

OK, thanks. Then I guess it's time to bury this dog.
I'll stick to my global variable ...

/gustav


> I think I'm the one missing things!  Somewhere along the way, probably
> in the switch from Access Basic to VBA, that seems to have changed.  I
> think I would create a messagebox class and have it pass the app title
> as the default title to the actual function if I wanted to avoid having
> to supply it myself.

> Charlotte Foust


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 3:28 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


> Hi Charlotte et all

> This property didn't exist if this is what you are referring to:

>   CurrentProject.Properties("AppTitle")

> But adding it and setting its value to "MyTitle" doesn't make any
> difference to the default MsgBox title.

> /gustav


>> Hi Charlotte

>> Thanks. The only problem is that it doesn't work ...

>> In the debug window:

>> ? Currentdb.Properties("AppTitle").Value
>> MyTitle

>> Still, the title of a messagebox:

>>   Msgbox "Test"

>> is "Microsoft Access" and not "MyTitle".

>> I have done a title bar refresh and even a relaunch with no luck. What

>> am I missing?

>> /gustav


>>> It picks up the AppTitle property as the default.  So if your 
>>> AppTitle isn't set, you get Microsoft Access as the msgbox title 
>>> unless you override it with a title string argument.

>>> Charlotte Foust


>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
>>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:42 AM
>>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>> Subject: [AccessD] MsgBox, global setting for Title


>>> Hi all

>>> Can you somehow set a global string for Title of MsgBox so you don't
>>> have to set it each and everywhere?

>>> I faintly recall this can be done ... but how?



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct  5 05:40:50 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 12:40:50 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <20041004121006.1004197457.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>
	<20041004121006.1004197457.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4813187803.20041005124050@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

Well, it's up to your fantasy!
How about "dissappear"?

However, I my recall incorrectly.

/gustav


> Gustav,

> Well, I've asked a few questinos of the archives, but I get messages dealing with page numbering and text box length. I tried "invisible number" and got a lot of messages with the word "invisible"
> in them. How careful should I be?

> Steve Erbach
> Neenah, WI


>> ------------Original Message------------
>> From: Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Date: Mon, Oct-4-2004 8:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
>> 
>> Hi Steven
>> 
>> Did you carefully look up the archive on this?
>> I faintly recall a similar situation.
>> 
>> /gustav



From john at winhaven.net  Tue Oct  5 08:25:44 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:25:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] x-posted XP SP2 on CD
Message-ID: <NGBBLIECOMAKBPEDMKEJKELLHPAA.john@winhaven.net>

For those that haven't installed it yet, you can get XP SP2 on CD:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/defau
lt.mspx?urlID=425822449




From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Oct  5 09:41:50 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue,  5 Oct 2004 16:41:50 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off
Message-ID: <26402479.1096987310101.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>

To all,
Believe it or not I have used Access for a few years now, and have only just started using the custom menu bars.  I have a MenuBar called B&Q, which in turn has three menus on it (File Options, Edit Options, Report Options), which in turn have options that the user can select.
Does anyone have any sample code or can tell me where to get some sample code on turning the various options on/off
Thanks in advance for all your help
Paul Hartland

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct  5 10:17:30 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:17:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312A9F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

What do you mean by "turning the various options on/off"?  Are you
asking about disabling some of the items on the menus?  If so, what are
the conditions involved?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 7:42 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off


To all,
Believe it or not I have used Access for a few years now, and have only
just started using the custom menu bars.  I have a MenuBar called B&Q,
which in turn has three menus on it (File Options, Edit Options, Report
Options), which in turn have options that the user can select. Does
anyone have any sample code or can tell me where to get some sample code
on turning the various options on/off Thanks in advance for all your
help Paul Hartland

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Oct  5 10:25:06 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 11:25:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA309C4AE1@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB8BC@ADGSERVER>

Paul,

Here is some example code for you:

   With CommandBars("Wrap Reports/Utils")
      .Controls("Letters").Enabled = bTF
      .Controls("Reports").Enabled = bTF
      With .Controls("Utilities")
         .Controls("Certificate Default Values").Enabled = bTF
         .Controls("Conversion Log").Enabled = bTF
         .Controls("Coverages").Enabled = bTF
         End With
	end with

The name of the command bar is "Wrap Reports/Utils".  There is a sub menu
named "Utilities".

You could use something like:
CommandBars("Wrap
Reports/Utils").Controls("Utilities").Controls("Coverages").Enabled = true

You should also be able to set visible instead of the enabled as shown here.

The code is in a function that is passed a boolean.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:42 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off


To all,
Believe it or not I have used Access for a few years now, and have only just
started using the custom menu bars.  I have a MenuBar called B&Q, which in
turn has three menus on it (File Options, Edit Options, Report Options),
which in turn have options that the user can select. Does anyone have any
sample code or can tell me where to get some sample code on turning the
various options on/off Thanks in advance for all your help Paul Hartland




From awithing at twcny.rr.com  Tue Oct  5 15:00:19 2004
From: awithing at twcny.rr.com (augusta)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:00:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
In-Reply-To: <200409111553.i8BFr8630653@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200410052000.i95K0LIi029282@ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com>

I need to know how to make a field required if another field is checked. For
example: If the contributions are restricted, then fill in the restricted
reason.

Can anyone help  - in plain English?

Thanks Augusta





From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Oct  5 15:45:06 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:45:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
In-Reply-To: <200410052000.i95K0LIi029282@ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <002101c4ab1c$32b0ad50$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Are you a programmer?  

In plain VB, in OnClick of the checkbox, check if the box is checked or
unchecked.  If checked, place the cursor in the text box and open a message
box or some such.  If unchecked, clear out the text box.  You would want to
also do things like disable the text box unless the check box is checked
etc, or alternately if the text box has something entered, then check the
check box.  

This is in fact a facet of normalization where you have the same information
stored in more than one place.  The check box stores the fact that
contributions are restricted, but the simple fact that something is in the
text box stores the fact that contributions are restricted.  You don't need
the check box at all, it is a convenience which  raises ugly issues such as
how to keep the two controls in sync.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of augusta
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked


I need to know how to make a field required if another field is checked. For
example: If the contributions are restricted, then fill in the restricted
reason.

Can anyone help  - in plain English?

Thanks Augusta



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From JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com  Tue Oct  5 15:59:25 2004
From: JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com (JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:59:25 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] x-posted XP SP2 on CD
Message-ID: <103.516a61e0.2e94652d@aol.com>

does anyone known address of Office XP SP3 on a CD ? In this neck of  the 
woods it will take over 5 hours to DL it.
 
TIA johnb


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Oct  5 16:10:38 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:10:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
In-Reply-To: <19865371.1097009804340.JavaMail.root@sniper2.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <004f01c4ab1f$c3ca7de0$de1811d8@danwaters>

However, it could be that someone or the system determines the requirement
for the text box to be filled in, and then someone else fills in the text
information.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 3:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked

Are you a programmer?  

In plain VB, in OnClick of the checkbox, check if the box is checked or
unchecked.  If checked, place the cursor in the text box and open a message
box or some such.  If unchecked, clear out the text box.  You would want to
also do things like disable the text box unless the check box is checked
etc, or alternately if the text box has something entered, then check the
check box.  

This is in fact a facet of normalization where you have the same information
stored in more than one place.  The check box stores the fact that
contributions are restricted, but the simple fact that something is in the
text box stores the fact that contributions are restricted.  You don't need
the check box at all, it is a convenience which  raises ugly issues such as
how to keep the two controls in sync.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of augusta
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked


I need to know how to make a field required if another field is checked. For
example: If the contributions are restricted, then fill in the restricted
reason.

Can anyone help  - in plain English?

Thanks Augusta



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From awithing at twcny.rr.com  Tue Oct  5 16:36:47 2004
From: awithing at twcny.rr.com (withington)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:36:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
In-Reply-To: <002101c4ab1c$32b0ad50$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <002101c4ab1c$32b0ad50$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <416313EF.1010003@twcny.rr.com>

John W. Colby wrote:

>Are you a programmer?  
>  
>

no I am far from it. I wish that I were, but too many things to learn! 
However, I have deceided that I need to learn more about Access and it 
"power". So I think that I need a more detailed explaination?

I think that the user would like to be able to check the box first

>In plain VB, in OnClick of the checkbox, check if the box is checked or
>unchecked.  If checked, place the cursor in the text box and open a message
>box or some such.  If unchecked, clear out the text box.  You would want to
>also do things like disable the text box unless the check box is checked
>etc, or alternately if the text box has something entered, then check the
>check box.  
>
>This is in fact a facet of normalization where you have the same information
>stored in more than one place.  The check box stores the fact that
>contributions are restricted, but the simple fact that something is in the
>text box stores the fact that contributions are restricted.  You don't need
>the check box at all, it is a convenience which  raises ugly issues such as
>how to keep the two controls in sync.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of augusta
>Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:00 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
>
>
>I need to know how to make a field required if another field is checked. For
>example: If the contributions are restricted, then fill in the restricted
>reason.
>
>Can anyone help  - in plain English?
>
>Thanks Augusta
>
>
>
>  
>



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Oct  5 16:56:06 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:56:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
In-Reply-To: <004f01c4ab1f$c3ca7de0$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <002301c4ab26$21df0f30$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

That's true, but doesn't negate the fact that it is duplication of
information.  I stated that it is a convenience.  The text box could be
filled with a code to indicate that it needed to be filled in or something.
Normalization is about storing info in one place so that multiple locations
don't have to be kept in sync.  

This is a rather classic case where two places have to be kept in sync.  If
the check box is checked, then the text box has to be filled else the text
box has to be cleared.  Assuming that the check box is used somewhere (in
queries etc) then if the text box is filled, the check box has to be filled.
And so you chase your tail.  I am not making a judgment as to whether it is
a necessity, simply stating a fact that this is the case and if it is
possible to get rid of the duplication, life is usually simpler.

I also answered the original question about how to attempt to keep them in
sync, and some issues perhaps not considered.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 5:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked


However, it could be that someone or the system determines the requirement
for the text box to be filled in, and then someone else fills in the text
information.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 3:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked

Are you a programmer?  

In plain VB, in OnClick of the checkbox, check if the box is checked or
unchecked.  If checked, place the cursor in the text box and open a message
box or some such.  If unchecked, clear out the text box.  You would want to
also do things like disable the text box unless the check box is checked
etc, or alternately if the text box has something entered, then check the
check box.  

This is in fact a facet of normalization where you have the same information
stored in more than one place.  The check box stores the fact that
contributions are restricted, but the simple fact that something is in the
text box stores the fact that contributions are restricted.  You don't need
the check box at all, it is a convenience which  raises ugly issues such as
how to keep the two controls in sync.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of augusta
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked


I need to know how to make a field required if another field is checked. For
example: If the contributions are restricted, then fill in the restricted
reason.

Can anyone help  - in plain English?

Thanks Augusta




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Oct  5 17:08:49 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 08:08:49 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
In-Reply-To: <200410052000.i95K0LIi029282@ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com>
References: <200409111553.i8BFr8630653@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4163A811.475.18CCDCD6@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 5 Oct 2004 at 16:00, augusta wrote:

> I need to know how to make a field required if another field is checked. For
> example: If the contributions are restricted, then fill in the restricted
> reason.
> 
> Can anyone help  - in plain English?
> 
It's called "validation"  :-)

In your from's Before_Update event procedure, you need to do something 
like:

If  Resricted = True and isnull(Reason) then
   Msgbox "You must give a reason for restricting contributions"
   Cancel = True
   Me.Restricted.SetFocus   
End if






-- 
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Oct  6 03:01:12 2004
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed,  6 Oct 2004 10:01:12 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off
Message-ID: <16596521.1097049672382.JavaMail.www@wwinf3005>

Yes sorry I mean the various menu options, the main one is when a person opens the application if a store code isn't in the table, then I want to disable everything except Select Store Code and Exit Application
Paul





Message date : Oct 05 2004, 04:18 PM
>From : "Charlotte Foust" 
To : "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
Copy to : 
Subject : RE: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off
What do you mean by "turning the various options on/off"? Are you
asking about disabling some of the items on the menus? If so, what are
the conditions involved?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net [mailto:paul.hartland at fsmail.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 7:42 AM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Turning Custom MenuBar Options On/Off


To all,
Believe it or not I have used Access for a few years now, and have only
just started using the custom menu bars. I have a MenuBar called B&Q,
which in turn has three menus on it (File Options, Edit Options, Report
Options), which in turn have options that the user can select. Does
anyone have any sample code or can tell me where to get some sample code
on turning the various options on/off Thanks in advance for all your
help Paul Hartland

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From davide at dalyn.co.nz  Wed Oct  6 05:02:13 2004
From: davide at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:02:13 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Graphic Does Not Show On Another Machine
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20041006230132.01a3cb10@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

A97 runtime.

I have a similar problem with a WXP computer that is not showing JPG 
graphics in a report.  The computer doesn't seem to have the C:\Program 
Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Grphflt\MS.JPG file installed.  Is it a 
simple matter of copying the file into the folder, or does some sort of 
installation need to take place?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348

At 24/07/2004, you wrote:
>I assume you are just storing the path name of the file.
>and doing something like
>Me.Picture="C:\image\myimage.jpg"
>
>This gets messy because the defaults are not explained by MS
>They assume you have a full office install when running Access.
>
>There are a series of graphic filters that are installed by various MS
>Products.
>MS Access ODE installs a lot with a full install but not MS Access
>Standard, MS Word also installs a lot of these filters.
>These will affect what is displayed in an image or picture control.
>Sometimes just changing the file extension from jpeg to jpg will allow
>display. Just installing MS Word may allow you access to these filters
>or a full install of the ODE
>Most are found at least in WinXP in the following directory.
>C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Grphflt
>
>
>
>  In addition to these filters, use depends on OLE servers installed.
>
>See these urls for more info
>
>  Forms: Displaying photos in a form
>http://www.mvps.org/access/forms/frm0044.htm
>Lebans  using intel library
>http://www.lebans.com/loadsavejpeg.htm
>Lebans Image transparancy
>http://www.lebans.com/image_faq.htm
>  function to allow for the Display of Jpeg and Gif files on systems that
>do not have the Office Graphic Filters installed.
>  TIF and PNG formats are now supported via the Microsoft GDI+ DLL. The
>GDI+ DLL is freely redistributable and available directly from MS here
>http://www.lebans.com/loadjpeggif.htm
>
>JPEG File Interchange Format File
>The JPEG graphics filter (Jpegim32.flt) supports version 6.0 of the JPEG
>File Interchange Format (JFIF). You must have the JPEG filter installed to
>insert a .jpg file into a Word document as a Microsoft Clip Gallery object
>or a Photo Editor object. However, to insert a .jpg file directly into a
>Word document, you do not need the JPEG filter. The filter supports cyan-
>magenta-yellow-black (CMYK) JPEG files.
>
>The JPEG filter has the following limitation:
>The filter does not support JPEG Tagged Interchange Format (JTIF) files.
>
>On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:04:16 -0500, Jantz, Mathias
><MathiasJ at FIRSTPENN.COM> wrote:
>
> >I have a database that stores pictures (.jpg) in a field of a table.
> >
> >On my machine, the picture works fine.
> >
> >On another's machine, it just show the name of the image (imageName.jpg)
> >in both the form and the report.
> >
> >Could there be something that was not installed on that machine?
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >Mathias



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct  6 07:06:21 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:06:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
Message-ID: <20041006120628.LJRO1790.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Do any of you use the Error Handler Add-in? I'm curious -- I'll be writing
about it and I'd like to know if anybody likes it. 
 
Susan H. 


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Oct  6 07:35:10 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:35:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA309C4D33@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB8C7@ADGSERVER>

I don't use one, but I would like to.  :-)

Bobby

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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 8:06 AM
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Do any of you use the Error Handler Add-in? I'm curious -- I'll be writing
about it and I'd like to know if anybody likes it. 
 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct  6 08:01:43 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:01:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB8C7@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <20041006130145.HCSE1718.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, I can't even find the thing in 2003 -- there use to be one in earlier
versions -- it came with the developer version I think. It's easy to use --
so I'm curious if anyone actually uses it. 

It's one of the more frustrating things about 2003. I can't find anything.
;( So, if it doesn't even come with 2003 -- kind of a moot topic. 

Susan H. 

I don't use one, but I would like to.  :-)

Bobby

Do any of you use the Error Handler Add-in? I'm curious -- I'll be writing
about it and I'd like to know if anybody likes it. 
 



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Oct  6 08:19:00 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 06:19:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
References: <20041006120628.LJRO1790.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <006201c4aba7$0b52f250$6601a8c0@HAL9002>

Colby has one on his web site that I've used.

Rocky

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 5:06 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in


> Do any of you use the Error Handler Add-in? I'm curious -- I'll be writing
> about it and I'd like to know if anybody likes it.
>
> Susan H.
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct  6 08:32:23 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:32:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <006201c4aba7$0b52f250$6601a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <20041006133224.SGNR1792.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I need to use the one that comes with Access -- or at least use to. ;( 

Susan H. 

Colby has one on his web site that I've used.




From billmorrill at comcast.net  Wed Oct  6 09:19:51 2004
From: billmorrill at comcast.net (billmorrill at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 14:19:51 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
Message-ID: <100620041419.19850.4163FF07000CAFBD00004D8A22007354460404079D9D01030404070D@comcast.net>

No Addin required if you do the following: 

I use Insert File on the VBE Menu.  I created my own template with.txt extension and store it in My Documents folder.  To use it I just do Insert File and pull in the template.  In the template there is a Select Case statement to isolate the number.  Also, there is a little note that says Code goes here.  It works great and it's customized. 

Bill M.


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> Do any of you use the Error Handler Add-in? I'm curious -- I'll be writing 
> about it and I'd like to know if anybody likes it. 
> 
> Susan H. 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Oct  6 09:25:04 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:25:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
Message-ID: <20041006142501.B3863253349@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

When you say earlier versions Susan, which do you mean? I still use
primarily (ok, totally) A97 and don't know of or see an Error Handler
Add-in.
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Date: 06/10/04 13:36

>
> I need to use the one that comes with Access -- or at least use to. ;(
>
> Susan H.
>
> Colby has one on his web site that I've used.
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct  6 09:27:25 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:27:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <20041006142501.B3863253349@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20041006142730.KBCK1756.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Andy --  it may not have been included until 2000 -- I'm pretty sure it's in
2000 and XP. 

Susan H. 

When you say earlier versions Susan, which do you mean? I still use
primarily (ok, totally) A97 and don't know of or see an Error Handler
Add-in.



From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Oct  6 09:31:34 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:31:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BBF@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


I use 2000, I don't' see it.  
Where is it located?
Jim H.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in


Andy --  it may not have been included until 2000 -- I'm pretty sure it's in
2000 and XP. 

Susan H. 

When you say earlier versions Susan, which do you mean? I still use
primarily (ok, totally) A97 and don't know of or see an Error Handler
Add-in.

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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Wed Oct  6 09:58:22 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:58:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BBF@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c4abb4$ecb40420$060aa845@hargrove.internal>

I found documentation for it at this link...

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/modcore/htm
l/derefode_help_codecomm.asp

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:32 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in



I use 2000, I don't' see it.  
Where is it located?
Jim H.

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in


Andy --  it may not have been included until 2000 -- I'm pretty sure it's in
2000 and XP. 

Susan H. 

When you say earlier versions Susan, which do you mean? I still use
primarily (ok, totally) A97 and don't know of or see an Error Handler
Add-in.

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Wed Oct  6 09:57:19 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (dw-murphy at cox.net)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:57:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
Message-ID: <20041006145719.BSNN25647.fed1rmmtao03.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

Susan,

I have the XP Developer Edition but use the error handler insert from MZ Tools.  It also has some nice features to insert Module descriptive headers and procedure descriptive headers, along with many other handy features.

Doug
> 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> Date: 2004/10/06 Wed AM 09:01:43 EDT
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> 	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
> 
> Well, I can't even find the thing in 2003 -- there use to be one in earlier
> versions -- it came with the developer version I think. It's easy to use --
> so I'm curious if anyone actually uses it. 
> 
> It's one of the more frustrating things about 2003. I can't find anything.
> ;( So, if it doesn't even come with 2003 -- kind of a moot topic. 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> I don't use one, but I would like to.  :-)
> 
> Bobby
> 
> Do any of you use the Error Handler Add-in? I'm curious -- I'll be writing
> about it and I'd like to know if anybody likes it. 
>  
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Oct  6 12:09:51 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:09:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4384076D@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Trickery needed.  I have a form based on the table tblTrackingSheetWIP.
Due to questionable database design, this form opens up another form,
where the tasknumber=tasknumber, that is based off of the same table.
User makes changes to second form.  Closes second form and returns to
route form.  Tries to change data on the original form and gets the
Another User Has Edited this Record.... Save your changes, etc.  I have
tried everything to get this record to save - closing the original form,
DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord, refresh, the works.

For now, I am closing the first form after I open the second, and it
looks like I will have to just return to a prior form and make the user
reselect the record to open up the first form.  Any ideas on a
workaround so I can open the first form gracefully?  Am I making sense?


Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services




From CMackin at quiznos.com  Wed Oct  6 12:20:18 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:20:18 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EF9E@snowmass.quiznos.net>

Yikes, making a subform might be  areally good idea or a tabbed form, but with the existing structure make sure that you have:

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord

when you open the second form (right before the DOcmd.OpenForm line) and when you close the second form have the same thing.  Additionally make sure you open Form #2 in teh acDialog mode so the use is unable to go from Form 1 to 2 freely, make sure they open form 2, use it a close it.

-Chris Mackin


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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:10 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)


Trickery needed.  I have a form based on the table tblTrackingSheetWIP.
Due to questionable database design, this form opens up another form,
where the tasknumber=tasknumber, that is based off of the same table.
User makes changes to second form.  Closes second form and returns to
route form.  Tries to change data on the original form and gets the
Another User Has Edited this Record.... Save your changes, etc.  I have
tried everything to get this record to save - closing the original form,
DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord, refresh, the works.

For now, I am closing the first form after I open the second, and it
looks like I will have to just return to a prior form and make the user
reselect the record to open up the first form.  Any ideas on a
workaround so I can open the first form gracefully?  Am I making sense?


Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct  6 12:55:40 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:55:40 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4384076D@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4384076D@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <16539519686.20041006195540@cactus.dk>

Hi Karen

You need to requery form1 when form2 has created changes.

/gustav


> Trickery needed.  I have a form based on the table tblTrackingSheetWIP.
> Due to questionable database design, this form opens up another form,
> where the tasknumber=tasknumber, that is based off of the same table.
> User makes changes to second form.  Closes second form and returns to
> route form.  Tries to change data on the original form and gets the
> Another User Has Edited this Record.... Save your changes, etc.  I have
> tried everything to get this record to save - closing the original form,
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord, refresh, the works.

> For now, I am closing the first form after I open the second, and it
> looks like I will have to just return to a prior form and make the user
> reselect the record to open up the first form.  Any ideas on a
> workaround so I can open the first form gracefully?  Am I making sense?


> Karen Nicholson
> National Laboratory
> Xerox Global Services



From kost36 at otenet.gr  Wed Oct  6 13:20:50 2004
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:20:50 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Tranferring FOLDER names into a table
References: <200409291635435.SM01212@hplaptop>
Message-ID: <014001c4abd1$413c6c50$0100a8c0@KOST36>

Hi all,
is there any way to tranfer the folder names (even the inclouding files into 
them)?
I used a small tip but it can only read the files into a selected folder and 
not the folder names...

be all well
kostas konstantinidis 




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Oct  6 13:47:51 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 13:47:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Tranferring FOLDER names into a table
In-Reply-To: <24856930.1097087277563.JavaMail.root@sniper2.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000401c4abd4$fbd25ae0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Kostas,

Try looking at FileSystemObjects.  You'll need to set a reference to
scrrun.dll (Microsoft Scripting Runtime).

The help file for this is called script56.chm - you may need to search for
it.

HTH
Dan Waters

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Subject: [AccessD] Tranferring FOLDER names into a table

Hi all,
is there any way to tranfer the folder names (even the inclouding files into

them)?
I used a small tip but it can only read the files into a selected folder and

not the folder names...

be all well
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Oct  6 13:57:28 2004
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 14:57:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Tranferring FOLDER names into a table
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA309C4E50@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB8D1@ADGSERVER>

Have you looked into the DIR$ function?  It will get you the folders in a
given directory.

You can use Dir$ or the api Findfirstfile, findnextfile, and FindClose to
recursively find all of the folders.

Search Google for recurse folders vb.

Bobby

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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 2:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Tranferring FOLDER names into a table


Hi all,
is there any way to tranfer the folder names (even the inclouding files into

them)?
I used a small tip but it can only read the files into a selected folder and

not the folder names...

be all well
kostas konstantinidis 


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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Oct  6 14:24:49 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:24:49 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Tranferring FOLDER names into a table
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7AC@nprdex02.nns.com>

Kostas,

Save the following line as a .bat file.  When run from your target
directory, it will create a text file for you that you can import directly
into Access.


DIR /B /S >C:/DIRLIST.TXT



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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 2:21 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Tranferring FOLDER names into a table


Hi all,
is there any way to tranfer the folder names (even the inclouding files into

them)?
I used a small tip but it can only read the files into a selected folder and

not the folder names...

be all well
kostas konstantinidis 


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Oct  6 16:44:23 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 07:44:23 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <000e01c4abb4$ecb40420$060aa845@hargrove.internal>
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BBF@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <4164F3D7.18752.38A6C7E@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 6 Oct 2004 at 10:58, Mike & Doris Manning wrote:

> I found documentation for it at this link...
> 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/modcore/htm
> l/derefode_help_codecomm.asp
> 
<quote>
A number of tools designed to aid in rapid application development in the 
Microsoft? Visual Basic? Editor are provided with Microsoft? Office XP 
Developer
</quote>

I suspect it is ONLY available with Office XP Developer Edition.

-- 
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 17:03:31 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:03:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <20041006145719.BSNN25647.fed1rmmtao03.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>
References: <20041006145719.BSNN25647.fed1rmmtao03.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>
Message-ID: <b874372a0410061503210efdd@mail.gmail.com>

I second the use of MzTools there's one for VB and VBA, that I use in
both cases... very efficient and lightweight IMNSHO


On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:57:19 -0400, dw-murphy at cox.net <dw-murphy at cox.net> wrote:
> Susan,
> 
> I have the XP Developer Edition but use the error handler insert from MZ Tools.  It also has some nice features to insert Module descriptive headers and procedure descriptive headers, along with many other handy features.
> 
> Doug
> >
> > From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
> > Date: 2004/10/06 Wed AM 09:01:43 EDT
> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> >       <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
> 
> 
> >
> > Well, I can't even find the thing in 2003 -- there use to be one in earlier
> > versions -- it came with the developer version I think. It's easy to use --
> > so I'm curious if anyone actually uses it.
> >
> > It's one of the more frustrating things about 2003. I can't find anything.
> > ;( So, if it doesn't even come with 2003 -- kind of a moot topic.
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> > I don't use one, but I would like to.  :-)
> >
> > Bobby
> >
> > Do any of you use the Error Handler Add-in? I'm curious -- I'll be writing
> > about it and I'd like to know if anybody likes it.
> >
> >
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct  6 17:04:01 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 18:04:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <4164F3D7.18752.38A6C7E@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20041006220402.HSSF1791.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Yes, as far as I know, it's only available in the developer edition, and
since there isn't a developer edition for 2003, I suspect it's just
disappeared. I haven't been able to find it as a regular feature. 

Susan H. 

I suspect it is ONLY available with Office XP Developer Edition.




From lists at theopg.com  Wed Oct  6 17:18:34 2004
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 23:18:34 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4384076D@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <000301c4abf2$6bb42560$9139fc3e@netboxxp>

You could unbind the second form and store its values hidden on the
first form. When you open the second form read the values in from the
first and when you close the second write them back (to the first form).
That way the record is only bound edited and updated in the first form
so no write conflick...

Hth

mark

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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)


Trickery needed.  I have a form based on the table tblTrackingSheetWIP.
Due to questionable database design, this form opens up another form,
where the tasknumber=tasknumber, that is based off of the same table.
User makes changes to second form.  Closes second form and returns to
route form.  Tries to change data on the original form and gets the
Another User Has Edited this Record.... Save your changes, etc.  I have
tried everything to get this record to save - closing the original form,
DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord, refresh, the works.

For now, I am closing the first form after I open the second, and it
looks like I will have to just return to a prior form and make the user
reselect the record to open up the first form.  Any ideas on a
workaround so I can open the first form gracefully?  Am I making sense?


Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Oct  6 17:28:33 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:28:33 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AAB@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Have you checked the VSTO to see if it's included in the Access
extensions there?  I don't have it on this machine, so I can't check
here.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 3:04 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in


Yes, as far as I know, it's only available in the developer edition, and
since there isn't a developer edition for 2003, I suspect it's just
disappeared. I haven't been able to find it as a regular feature. 

Susan H. 

I suspect it is ONLY available with Office XP Developer Edition.


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Oct  7 05:33:34 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 06:33:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43840770@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I tried these scenarios.  This is so dicey that I spoke with my manager
yesterday and he has agreed that the fields on the second form should be
in their own table.  I have inherited a messy system, but my manager is
really smart and is starting to allow me to make structural changes when
warranted.  So today I shall restructure...

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another User Edited this Record (XP)


Hi Karen

You need to requery form1 when form2 has created changes.

/gustav


> Trickery needed.  I have a form based on the table
tblTrackingSheetWIP.
> Due to questionable database design, this form opens up another form,
> where the tasknumber=tasknumber, that is based off of the same table.
> User makes changes to second form.  Closes second form and returns to
> route form.  Tries to change data on the original form and gets the
> Another User Has Edited this Record.... Save your changes, etc.  I
have
> tried everything to get this record to save - closing the original
form,
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSaveRecord, refresh, the works.

> For now, I am closing the first form after I open the second, and it
> looks like I will have to just return to a prior form and make the
user
> reselect the record to open up the first form.  Any ideas on a
> workaround so I can open the first form gracefully?  Am I making
sense?


> Karen Nicholson
> National Laboratory
> Xerox Global Services

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From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 13:21:46 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Security issue, opening SQL server port over internet
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF0ADC8E@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Hi Group
A new POS software supplier for a customer from me, asks to open up the
SQL server port over the ADSL/Internet.
He needs this to synchronise database between two sites.
 
I however, have always understood that opening the SQL server port over
the internet is a serious security issue and should be avoided. Due to
the numerous security bugs I seen passing the catwalk I find this my
personal opinion to.
Next to that, the own SQL security system needs to be tuned/activated
because by default everything is wide open.
 
I am wondering what the opinion /experiance of the Access group is in
this matter.
I'm also wondering if the SQL server (I believe version 7) data is
encypted when sending over the internet?
 
I personaly would use a VPN connection and connect to to SQL server over
that VPN. I know this has some speed drawbacks but its safe...
 
 

 

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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 08:36:10 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 14:36:10 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Emailing from an Access form
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF731192299@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Be grateful for the code for who an email is addressed to - who is to
receive the email - when emailing details from an access form.
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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Thu Oct  7 08:46:09 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 14:46:09 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Emailing from an Access form
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF73119229A@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Sorry, folks, found the answer quicker than expected. cheers

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Be grateful for the code for who an email is addressed to - who is to
receive the email - when emailing details from an access form.
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Oct  7 11:00:11 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:00:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
Message-ID: <b874372a041007090044e019d5@mail.gmail.com>

This is just a brain storm Idea, but I have a set of text boxes where
people are constantly keying in their data... I think it'd be neat to
duplicate the idea like a web - dropdown (auto-fill) in Access but not
necessarily w/ a combo box...

anyone do anything like this before?


-- 
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From JColby at dispec.com  Thu Oct  7 11:18:24 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:18:24 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF8F9@DISABILITYINS01>

Yes, I did an OnKeyDown that looked up the characters entered and pulled
matching data into a list box under the text box.  The list box would expand
(drop down) from 1 pixel tall to X pixels tall when the first key down
happened, then contracted back up when the text box lost the focus.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down


This is just a brain storm Idea, but I have a set of text boxes where
people are constantly keying in their data... I think it'd be neat to
duplicate the idea like a web - dropdown (auto-fill) in Access but not
necessarily w/ a combo box...

anyone do anything like this before?


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jargon</a>
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From JColby at dispec.com  Thu Oct  7 11:30:57 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:30:57 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF8FD@DISABILITYINS01>

And of course, using a class with WithEvents.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Web like drop down


Yes, I did an OnKeyDown that looked up the characters entered and pulled
matching data into a list box under the text box.  The list box would expand
(drop down) from 1 pixel tall to X pixels tall when the first key down
happened, then contracted back up when the text box lost the focus.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down


This is just a brain storm Idea, but I have a set of text boxes where
people are constantly keying in their data... I think it'd be neat to
duplicate the idea like a web - dropdown (auto-fill) in Access but not
necessarily w/ a combo box...

anyone do anything like this before?


-- 
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jargon</a>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Oct  7 13:32:38 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 14:32:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Good deal
Message-ID: <000201c4ac9c$095a3940$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

The laptop I bought for 1500 minus $250 rebate is now available for $1300
minus an additional $150 mail in rebate.  This is a NICE machine folks.

Emachines Athlon64 3000+ ghz, 512m ram, 60m hard drive, built-in 54mbit
wireless, etc.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=product&id=1069301995506&skuId=
6249703

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 




From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Oct  7 13:36:47 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 13:36:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Chart Problem
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BCF@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Folks,
I need to create a pie chart in an A2K report.
There are two fields in the same record of the query I need to use.
There are over 300 records in the query. 
When I create the chart, all 300+ values show for the first field.

How do I get the chart to reflect both fields?

TIA 

Jim H.

From forefront at ig.com.br  Thu Oct  7 06:33:02 2004
From: forefront at ig.com.br (Forefront)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 08:33:02 -0300
Subject: [AccessD] Error Handler Add-in
In-Reply-To: <20041006220402.HSSF1791.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20041006220402.HSSF1791.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <4165296E.20509@ig.com.br>

I use MZTools and it has lots of good stuff, including a customizable 
Error Handling.  ;-)

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Oct  7 18:15:04 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 16:15:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF8FD@DISABILITYINS01>
References: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF8FD@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <b874372a041007161526e9b1d8@mail.gmail.com>

the code I had was off of some website.. I think they were APIs can't
remember,  John did you simply add to the combo box or extend the
textbox capabilities.


On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:30:57 -0400, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> And of course, using a class with WithEvents.
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:18 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Web like drop down
> 
> Yes, I did an OnKeyDown that looked up the characters entered and pulled
> matching data into a list box under the text box.  The list box would expand
> (drop down) from 1 pixel tall to X pixels tall when the first key down
> happened, then contracted back up when the text box lost the focus.
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francisco Tapia [mailto:fhtapia at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
> 
> This is just a brain storm Idea, but I have a set of text boxes where
> people are constantly keying in their data... I think it'd be neat to
> duplicate the idea like a web - dropdown (auto-fill) in Access but not
> necessarily w/ a combo box...
> 
> anyone do anything like this before?
> 
> --
> -Francisco
> <a href="http://pcthis.blogspot.com">Pc This! pc news with out the
> jargon</a>
> --
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Oct  7 20:43:45 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 21:43:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
In-Reply-To: <b874372a041007161526e9b1d8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c4acd8$3fd6ed60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Francisco,

I built a used a class to contain the code used for this thing.  As you
might know, a list control has a height property which can be expressed in
pixels or screen units anyway.  I used a list which has its own query.  That
query then looks for a "like" a text box.  As the user types in the text
box, each keystroke causes a requery of the list such that the list box
"narrows down" the selected items in the list.  IOW, suppose the text box
allows you to select last names.  As you type C, the list box drops down and
displays all names beginning with C.  Now you type an O and the list
requeries to display all names starting with CO.  L narrows it down to COL
etc.  The user can then use the mouse to select one of the objects in the
list if desired.  

The list expands on the first keystroke and collapses back up when the focus
leaves the list.  

Typically a third control will contain the index or PK of the object
currently highlighted in the list or the first item in the list if none is
highlighted.  That control is then used to do some thing such as filter
another control a subform etc.

The class contains event handlers for the text box as well as the list
(withevents) so that all of the functionality is contained in the class.
You just init the class, pass in a pointer to the three controls, plus the
height you want the list to drop down to etc.

I used this to build sets of these filters to select for example a single
type of screw for the screw company's app.  The first set would select head
style, the next the thread style, the next the pitch etc.  The objective was
to tunnel down to a specific screw or even set of screws.

Is this functionality what you are referring to?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Web like drop down


the code I had was off of some website.. I think they were APIs can't
remember,  John did you simply add to the combo box or extend the textbox
capabilities.


On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:30:57 -0400, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> And of course, using a class with WithEvents.
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Oct  7 23:19:15 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 00:19:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
In-Reply-To: <000b01c4acd8$3fd6ed60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000c01c4aced$fd56fe60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Boy, that was just about unintelligible!  

8-(

I suppose I really should reread my posts before pressing send!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Web like drop down


Francisco,

I built a used a class to contain the code used for this thing.  As you
might know, a list control has a height property which can be expressed in
pixels or screen units anyway.  I used a list which has its own query.  That
query then looks for a "like" a text box.  As the user types in the text
box, each keystroke causes a requery of the list such that the list box
"narrows down" the selected items in the list.  IOW, suppose the text box
allows you to select last names.  As you type C, the list box drops down and
displays all names beginning with C.  Now you type an O and the list
requeries to display all names starting with CO.  L narrows it down to COL
etc.  The user can then use the mouse to select one of the objects in the
list if desired.  

The list expands on the first keystroke and collapses back up when the focus
leaves the list.  

Typically a third control will contain the index or PK of the object
currently highlighted in the list or the first item in the list if none is
highlighted.  That control is then used to do some thing such as filter
another control a subform etc.

The class contains event handlers for the text box as well as the list
(withevents) so that all of the functionality is contained in the class. You
just init the class, pass in a pointer to the three controls, plus the
height you want the list to drop down to etc.

I used this to build sets of these filters to select for example a single
type of screw for the screw company's app.  The first set would select head
style, the next the thread style, the next the pitch etc.  The objective was
to tunnel down to a specific screw or even set of screws.

Is this functionality what you are referring to?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Web like drop down


the code I had was off of some website.. I think they were APIs can't
remember,  John did you simply add to the combo box or extend the textbox
capabilities.


On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:30:57 -0400, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> And of course, using a class with WithEvents.
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy


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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Oct  8 01:06:04 2004
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 23:06:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4aced$fd56fe60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <000b01c4acd8$3fd6ed60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
	<000c01c4aced$fd56fe60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <b874372a041007230664f995d9@mail.gmail.com>

I'll have to keep searching through my examples, but it was a text box
like when you visit a website, and you subclassed the textbox so that
you could simply type into the textbox and it would behave like one in
a webform, allowing you to just pick from the random list... It was an
IE type feature IIRC... I'll just keep looking and re-post when I find
it :) it's another bell and whistle but nothing that's gonna be a show
stopper for my current task.


On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 00:19:15 -0400, John W. Colby
<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Boy, that was just about unintelligible!
> 
> 8-(
> 
> I suppose I really should reread my posts before pressing send!
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:44 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Web like drop down
> 
> Francisco,
> 
> I built a used a class to contain the code used for this thing.  As you
> might know, a list control has a height property which can be expressed in
> pixels or screen units anyway.  I used a list which has its own query.  That
> query then looks for a "like" a text box.  As the user types in the text
> box, each keystroke causes a requery of the list such that the list box
> "narrows down" the selected items in the list.  IOW, suppose the text box
> allows you to select last names.  As you type C, the list box drops down and
> displays all names beginning with C.  Now you type an O and the list
> requeries to display all names starting with CO.  L narrows it down to COL
> etc.  The user can then use the mouse to select one of the objects in the
> list if desired.
> 
> The list expands on the first keystroke and collapses back up when the focus
> leaves the list.
> 
> Typically a third control will contain the index or PK of the object
> currently highlighted in the list or the first item in the list if none is
> highlighted.  That control is then used to do some thing such as filter
> another control a subform etc.
> 
> The class contains event handlers for the text box as well as the list
> (withevents) so that all of the functionality is contained in the class. You
> just init the class, pass in a pointer to the three controls, plus the
> height you want the list to drop down to etc.
> 
> I used this to build sets of these filters to select for example a single
> type of screw for the screw company's app.  The first set would select head
> style, the next the thread style, the next the pitch etc.  The objective was
> to tunnel down to a specific screw or even set of screws.
> 
> Is this functionality what you are referring to?
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:15 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Web like drop down
> 
> the code I had was off of some website.. I think they were APIs can't
> remember,  John did you simply add to the combo box or extend the textbox
> capabilities.
> 
> On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:30:57 -0400, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> > And of course, using a class with WithEvents.
> >
> > John W. Colby
> > The DIS Database Guy
> 
> --
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
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-- 
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  8 01:37:39 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 23:37:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT Send mail using Word 2000
Message-ID: <20041008063739.10586.qmail@web61109.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
i'm going nuts. I need to send mail using Word. However I cannot find out how to add a recipient!??!
 
Sending mail is easy: me.sendmail 
But hten you have to manually add the recipient info, subject etc.
 
Any ideas?
 
TIA
 
Sander

		
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Oct  8 08:46:09 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 08:46:09 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Web like drop down
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677217FF97@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Maybe you should run for president! (hey its Friday)
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Web like drop down


Boy, that was just about unintelligible!  

8-(

I suppose I really should reread my posts before pressing send!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Web like drop down


Francisco,

I built a used a class to contain the code used for this thing.  As you
might know, a list control has a height property which can be expressed in
pixels or screen units anyway.  I used a list which has its own query.  That
query then looks for a "like" a text box.  As the user types in the text
box, each keystroke causes a requery of the list such that the list box
"narrows down" the selected items in the list.  IOW, suppose the text box
allows you to select last names.  As you type C, the list box drops down and
displays all names beginning with C.  Now you type an O and the list
requeries to display all names starting with CO.  L narrows it down to COL
etc.  The user can then use the mouse to select one of the objects in the
list if desired.  

The list expands on the first keystroke and collapses back up when the focus
leaves the list.  

Typically a third control will contain the index or PK of the object
currently highlighted in the list or the first item in the list if none is
highlighted.  That control is then used to do some thing such as filter
another control a subform etc.

The class contains event handlers for the text box as well as the list
(withevents) so that all of the functionality is contained in the class. You
just init the class, pass in a pointer to the three controls, plus the
height you want the list to drop down to etc.

I used this to build sets of these filters to select for example a single
type of screw for the screw company's app.  The first set would select head
style, the next the thread style, the next the pitch etc.  The objective was
to tunnel down to a specific screw or even set of screws.

Is this functionality what you are referring to?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Francisco Tapia
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Web like drop down


the code I had was off of some website.. I think they were APIs can't
remember,  John did you simply add to the combo box or extend the textbox
capabilities.


On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:30:57 -0400, Colby, John <jcolby at dispec.com> wrote:
> And of course, using a class with WithEvents.
> 
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy


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From Alun.Garraway at otto.de  Fri Oct  8 09:33:12 2004
From: Alun.Garraway at otto.de (Garraway, Alun)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 16:33:12 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
Message-ID: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A017272B8@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>

Hi,

is it possible to check if a ADODB.Command was successful,
IOW when I have following code:

strSQL = INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3)
SELECT A1, A2, A3
FROM table
WHERE Something = Something 

command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute

how can I know (check) if a record has been added?

have a nice weekend :-)

alun


From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Oct  8 09:57:55 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:57:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Chart Problem
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BD3@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

I figured it out.
I created a bar chart, then changed the "type" of the chart.
The pie chart is correct.
Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 1:37 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Chart Problem


Folks,
I need to create a pie chart in an A2K report.
There are two fields in the same record of the query I need to use.
There are over 300 records in the query. 
When I create the chart, all 300+ values show for the first field.

How do I get the chart to reflect both fields?

TIA 

Jim H.


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Oct  8 09:57:25 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:57:25 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016CFE0@main2.marlow.com>

Dim intRecordsAffected As Long
strSQL = "INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3) " & _
"SELECT A1, A2, A3 " & _
"FROM table " & _
"WHERE Something = Something"
command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute intRecordsAffected

When run, intRecordsAffected will have the number of records affected by the
command text.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Hi,

is it possible to check if a ADODB.Command was successful,
IOW when I have following code:

strSQL = INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3)
SELECT A1, A2, A3
FROM table
WHERE Something = Something 

command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute

how can I know (check) if a record has been added?

have a nice weekend :-)

alun
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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Fri Oct  8 10:06:33 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 11:06:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
In-Reply-To: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A017272B8@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>
Message-ID: <002f01c4ad48$665a9700$0200a8c0@COA3>

After execution, check 
cmd.ActiveConnection.Errors.Count; if greater than 0, there were
error(s).

Of course, you should cmd.ActiveConnection.Errors.Clear just before
execute, and don't use that connection for anything else, to be 100%
sure it's your command that caused any error.


Steve


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Garraway,
Alun
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Hi,

is it possible to check if a ADODB.Command was successful,
IOW when I have following code:

strSQL = INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3)
SELECT A1, A2, A3
FROM table
WHERE Something = Something 

command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute

how can I know (check) if a record has been added?

have a nice weekend :-)

alun
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From Alun.Garraway at otto.de  Fri Oct  8 10:09:20 2004
From: Alun.Garraway at otto.de (Garraway, Alun)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 17:09:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
Message-ID: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A017272B9@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>

COOL!

thanks Drew

works like a charm :-)

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Dim intRecordsAffected As Long
strSQL = "INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3) " & _
"SELECT A1, A2, A3 " & _
"FROM table " & _
"WHERE Something = Something"
command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute intRecordsAffected

When run, intRecordsAffected will have the number of records affected by the
command text.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Hi,

is it possible to check if a ADODB.Command was successful,
IOW when I have following code:

strSQL = INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3)
SELECT A1, A2, A3
FROM table
WHERE Something = Something 

command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute

how can I know (check) if a record has been added?

have a nice weekend :-)

alun
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Oct  8 10:41:28 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:41:28 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016CFE5@main2.marlow.com>

You're quite welcome.  Glad to help. As an FYI, that same method can be used
with a connection object's Execute method. (I actually had to look it up, to
make sure it was there for the Command object)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


COOL!

thanks Drew

works like a charm :-)

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Dim intRecordsAffected As Long
strSQL = "INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3) " & _
"SELECT A1, A2, A3 " & _
"FROM table " & _
"WHERE Something = Something"
command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute intRecordsAffected

When run, intRecordsAffected will have the number of records affected by the
command text.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Hi,

is it possible to check if a ADODB.Command was successful,
IOW when I have following code:

strSQL = INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3)
SELECT A1, A2, A3
FROM table
WHERE Something = Something 

command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute

how can I know (check) if a record has been added?

have a nice weekend :-)

alun
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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Fri Oct  8 11:07:06 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:07:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016CFE5@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <003001c4ad50$db960f10$0200a8c0@COA3>

Guess I'm not cool, but my method works too

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:41 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


You're quite welcome.  Glad to help. As an FYI, that same method can be
used with a connection object's Execute method. (I actually had to look
it up, to make sure it was there for the Command object)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


COOL!

thanks Drew

works like a charm :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 4:57 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Dim intRecordsAffected As Long
strSQL = "INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3) " & _
"SELECT A1, A2, A3 " & _
"FROM table " & _
"WHERE Something = Something"
command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute intRecordsAffected

When run, intRecordsAffected will have the number of records affected by
the command text.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


Hi,

is it possible to check if a ADODB.Command was successful,
IOW when I have following code:

strSQL = INSERT INTO table1(1, 2, 3)
SELECT A1, A2, A3
FROM table
WHERE Something = Something 

command.CommandText = strSQL
command.Execute

how can I know (check) if a record has been added?

have a nice weekend :-)

alun
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From Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com  Fri Oct  8 11:21:58 2004
From: Jeff at OUTBAKTech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 11:21:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue
Message-ID: <8DA8776D2F418E46A2A464AC6CE630500326CA@outbaksrv1.outbaktech.com>

I have a field in a table which is a Memo Field.
On the form, I am using a text box to hold the data.
The field shows 300+ characters in the table, but when I view it in a form (in Datasheet view) using the Shift/F2 zoom viewer, I can only see 255 characters.
When I send the data to an MS Word document, everything is there.
When I close the document and the form, then reopen the form, the data still will not appear in the Zoom Viewer.
But if I check the table itself, all of the data is there.
 
Any ideas on why I cannot view ALL of the data in the field???
 
TIA
 
Jeff B
 


From Oleg_123 at xuppa.com  Fri Oct  8 12:01:25 2004
From: Oleg_123 at xuppa.com (Oleg_123 at xuppa.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 13:01:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 grid question
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4aced$fd56fe60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <000b01c4acd8$3fd6ed60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
	<000c01c4aced$fd56fe60$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <50467.68.161.124.132.1097254885.squirrel@heck.xuppa.com>

Hey
I have a form in VB6 that is taking data from Oracle table and shows it in
Grid
The column headers in grid show as they are on the table, what should I do
ro show them differently in the grid ?

thank you
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Oct  8 17:12:36 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 08:12:36 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016CFE0@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <41679D74.24841.3635AD8@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 8 Oct 2004 at 9:57, DWUTKA at marlow.com wrote:

> Dim intRecordsAffected As Long

<grin>

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Oct  8 17:25:23 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 17:25:23 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016CFF1@main2.marlow.com>

<rolling eyes>

Well, that's what I would dimension it as! ;p

Drew

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Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 5:13 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] check if ADO command was successful?


On 8 Oct 2004 at 9:57, DWUTKA at marlow.com wrote:

> Dim intRecordsAffected As Long

<grin>

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From thewaddles at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 10 00:31:25 2004
From: thewaddles at sbcglobal.net (Kevin Waddle)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 22:31:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked
In-Reply-To: <200410052000.i95K0LIi029282@ms-smtp-04.nyroc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <200410100531.i9A5V5L06142@databaseadvisors.com>

Augusta,
Please excuse the length of this reply...it took much longer to explain than
it would to accomplish.

You can solve the Check Box problem and you data normalization problem in
the manner listed below.

If you have a TextBox to hold the reason for restriction there is nothing to
prevent User1 from entering "Because he's broke" and User2 entering "He gots
no money".  The same reason but not way to determine how many customers are
broke from this data.

You need a ComboBox listing all the reasons

Example:
1. Create a table named tblRestrictions
	1.1. Add two fields to the table; RestrictionID as an AutoNumber and
ReasonForRestriction as a Text field
	1.2. Close the table and enter into the table all the reasons that
contributions could be restricted.
		Your first reason should be something like N/A or No

2. Open your main table in design mode and add a field in your main table
named ContibutionsRestricted
	2.1. From the Data Type as dropdown select LookUp Wizard
	2.2. A dialog box will appear; Select "I want the lookup column to
lookup the values in a table or query"
	2.3. Click Next, then select tblRestrictions from the list.
	2.4. Click Next, then select ReasonForRestriction from the list and
click the > button
	2.5. Click Next, then the dialog will allow you to sort the
ReasonForRestriction by the AutoNumber or text
	2.6. Click Next, then the dialog will show you the data selected and
a checkbox titled "Hide Key Column 	(Recommended)" leave this checked
	2.7. Click Next, then the dialog will ask you for a name for your
new field
	2.8. Click Finish

3. You will be back at the Design View with a Popup saying "The table must
be saved before relationships can be created, Save Now?" Yes / No, Click Yes

4. Your new field, ContibutionsRestricted, shows in your table with a data
type of Number.

You have just created a One-to-Many relationship between the RestrictionID
field in the table tblRestrictions (One Side) and the ContibutionsRestricted
field (Many Side) in the main table.

What is actually stored in the main table is the number that corresponds to
the ReasonForRestriction from the table tblRestrictions.

If you add this field to a form it will be a ComboBox from which you can
select your reasons.
In your form design you can set the "Default Value" property to 1 so that
any new customers will default to N/A


Hope this helps,
Kevin

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Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 1:00 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] fill in x field if y field is checked

I need to know how to make a field required if another field is checked. For
example: If the contributions are restricted, then fill in the restricted
reason.

Can anyone help  - in plain English?

Thanks Augusta



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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct 10 10:05:46 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:05:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
Message-ID: <20041010150545.NSHO1719.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 
 
Thanks!
Susan H. 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Oct 10 10:22:43 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:22:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <20041010150545.NSHO1719.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000c01c4aedd$011475a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Me too

John W. Colby
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Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators


I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 
 
Thanks!
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Oct 10 10:43:33 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 17:43:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4aedd$011475a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
References: <000c01c4aedd$011475a0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <7719690433.20041010174333@cactus.dk>

Hi John

> Me too

Ehh ... why?

/gustav


> I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
> scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
> interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
> such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 



From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Sun Oct 10 10:50:16 2004
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 17:50:16 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <20041010150545.NSHO1719.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20041010154642.A1E6E97FB@smtp5.wanadoo.nl>

First of all this might differ from engine to engine though I have found
something where methods are mentioned on how things might be interpreted,
interesting  but maybe not yet enough information but hey it's Sunday;-)

(I'll give it another try lateron:-)) 


Regards, 
Eric Starkenburg 
  

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Verzonden: zondag 10 oktober 2004 17:06 
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Onderwerp: [AccessD] inner workings of operators 

I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 

  
Thanks! 
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From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Sun Oct 10 10:57:44 2004
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 17:57:44 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <20041010150545.NSHO1719.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20041010155410.EEBE29411@smtp5.wanadoo.nl>

LOL... I was so much looking for this stuff I forgot to insert the link!!!! 

Sorry:-) 

 http://www.lextek.com/manuals/profiler/LANG_Intro.html 


Just as an example though... 


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Verzonden: zondag 10 oktober 2004 17:06 
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Onderwerp: [AccessD] inner workings of operators 

I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 

  
Thanks! 
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From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Sun Oct 10 11:34:38 2004
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 18:34:38 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <20041010150545.NSHO1719.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20041010163104.090359ABF@smtp5.wanadoo.nl>

Ok just some more info on Operators 

Logical 
http://www.utexas.edu/math/Matlab/Manual/Logical.html 
http://www.physiol.ox.ac.uk/Computing/Online_Documentation/JavaScript/ops.ht
m 

SQL 
Oracle IN statement: www.dbspecialists.com/presentations/tunesql.doc 

Pfff hard to find indeed...! Seems like subsets of data are used in the
background for evaluation resulting in a set that meets the conditions:-) 

Ohwell must be someone able to find more... Gustav?:-) 


Regards, 
Eric Starkenburg 

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Verzonden: zondag 10 oktober 2004 17:06 
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Onderwerp: [AccessD] inner workings of operators 

I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 

  
Thanks! 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Oct 10 12:03:36 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:03:36 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <20041010163104.090359ABF@smtp5.wanadoo.nl>
References: <20041010163104.090359ABF@smtp5.wanadoo.nl>
Message-ID: <12624493239.20041010190336@cactus.dk>

Hi Eric

> Ohwell must be someone able to find more... Gustav?:-)

I would be happy to do so - if I only knew what to look for?

I mean - I know what In and Or mean but can't see how I can influence
a lot on how they work "behind the scenes", neither do I care that
much.

Am I missing something?
I'm not about to build my own search engine - but would that be a
purpose? Could be nice with a quick search in memo fields. Hasn't Drew
worked with this?

/gustav


> I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
> scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
> interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
> such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct 10 14:06:13 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:06:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <7719690433.20041010174333@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041010190634.GWRX1786.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Knowing how it works behind the scenes can often help you write more
efficient code. Also, can help you decide which choices will perform better.
With today's system, it hardly matters anymore unless you're dealing with
zads of records, but it's still the kind of stuff developers want to know. 

Susan H.  



Hi John

> Me too

Ehh ... why?

/gustav


> I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the 
> scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just 
> interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows 
> of such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link.

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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Sun Oct 10 16:27:07 2004
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: 10 Oct 2004 21:27:07 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
Message-ID: <E1CGlDf-0003La-NQ@amos>

Is it true George Bush wore a radio receiver strapped to his back during 
the last debate with Kerry. Just watch it on the news here. they showed a 
close up of his back and the outline of a rectangle under the back of his 
jacket and a wire running up to his ear.

Martin


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Oct 10 16:46:13 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:46:13 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
In-Reply-To: <E1CGlDf-0003La-NQ@amos>
Message-ID: <000501c4af12$906448e0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

I'd hazard a guess that was meant for the OT list Martin.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

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> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
> Sent: 10 October 2004 22:27
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
> 
> 
> Is it true George Bush wore a radio receiver strapped to his 
> back during 
> the last debate with Kerry. Just watch it on the news here. 
> they showed a 
> close up of his back and the outline of a rectangle under the 
> back of his 
> jacket and a wire running up to his ear.
> 
> Martin
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct 10 17:03:24 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 18:03:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
In-Reply-To: <20041010155410.EEBE29411@smtp5.wanadoo.nl>
Message-ID: <20041010220323.JJHJ1786.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Thanks Starkey -- I may find something in that. 

Susan H. 

LOL... I was so much looking for this stuff I forgot to insert the link!!!! 

Sorry:-) 

 http://www.lextek.com/manuals/profiler/LANG_Intro.html 


Just as an example though... 



From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Mon Oct 11 01:40:48 2004
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 16:40:48 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] VB6 grid question
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D01011C19@ddi-01.DDI.local>

Which grid are you using?
A simple solution might be to alias your field names using
either a view or query.
I use a custom grid (Janus) as do most others, the standard ones are
pretty ugly to work with...


regards

Michael M

Hey
I have a form in VB6 that is taking data from Oracle table and shows it
in Grid The column headers in grid show as they are on the table, what
should I do ro show them differently in the grid ?

thank you
Oleg



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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Mon Oct 11 02:55:42 2004
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:55:42 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
References: <000501c4af12$906448e0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <001401c4af67$b502ac00$9111758f@aine>

Opps

Apologies all


Martin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate


> I'd hazard a guess that was meant for the OT list Martin.
>
> -- Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
>> Sent: 10 October 2004 22:27
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
>>
>>
>> Is it true George Bush wore a radio receiver strapped to his
>> back during
>> the last debate with Kerry. Just watch it on the news here.
>> they showed a
>> close up of his back and the outline of a rectangle under the
>> back of his
>> jacket and a wire running up to his ear.
>>
>> Martin
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From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Oct 11 03:11:17 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 03:11:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <4813187803.20041005124050@cactus.dk>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>
	<20041004121006.1004197457.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4813187803.20041005124050@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041011031117.1553474484.serbach@new.rr.com>

Gustav and Jim,

Things worked out all right after I reformatted the drive and re-installed Office 2000 Premium and the Access 2000 Runtime application. It looks like it was an unfortunate sequence of events resulting from 1) a serious virus infestation, and 2) the misunderstanding of the Runtime application by the people hired at first to re-format the drive.

It now looks like an older version of the Runtime application was installed. That older version used Access 97 Runtime. Then, I think, Office 2000 Premium was installed and then the update to the Runtime app to convert it to Access Runtime 2000...I can't really say. I wasn't there.

Anyway, the effect was that they experienced the wierd number disappearances in any Access report. That's fixed now and I'm tired of trying to figure out what happened. Do you ever get that way?

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI




From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Mon Oct 11 04:11:27 2004
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:11:27 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Chart Problem
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED5DD@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi Jim

Did you manage to solve this one? I have to say I'm struggling to imagine a
pie-chart based on 2 values - what do you want it to look like?

Sorry I can't be more help

Roz

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: 07 October 2004 19:37
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Chart Problem


Folks,
I need to create a pie chart in an A2K report.
There are two fields in the same record of the query I need to use. There
are over 300 records in the query. 
When I create the chart, all 300+ values show for the first field.

How do I get the chart to reflect both fields?

TIA 

Jim H.
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Oct 11 04:57:23 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:57:23 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <20041011031117.1553474484.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>
	<20041004121006.1004197457.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4813187803.20041005124050@cactus.dk>
	<20041011031117.1553474484.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <15811050820.20041011115723@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

> Anyway, the effect was that they experienced the wierd number
> disappearances in any Access report. That's fixed now and I'm tired
> of trying to figure out what happened. Do you ever get that way?

It happens - and remember: Users lie!

/gustav



From serbach at new.rr.com  Mon Oct 11 05:18:40 2004
From: serbach at new.rr.com (Steven W. Erbach)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 05:18:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <15811050820.20041011115723@cactus.dk>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>
	<20041004121006.1004197457.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4813187803.20041005124050@cactus.dk>
	<20041011031117.1553474484.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<15811050820.20041011115723@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041011051840.1309280929.serbach@new.rr.com>

Gustav,

>> It happens - and remember: Users lie! <<

In this case the user's report was entirely accurate: numerals did not appear in any form in the Access report previewer: dates, page numbers, phone numbers, as well as regular numbers. The formatting marks (dollar signs, commas, hyphens, parentheses, etc.) would all appear in their proper places. It just looked like the numbers were white-on-white.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI




From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Oct 11 06:35:02 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:35:02 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Report number format visible but not numbers
In-Reply-To: <20041011051840.1309280929.serbach@new.rr.com>
References: <20041003145504.1200913132.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<20041004051457.1242222750.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4821994175.20041004145810@cactus.dk>
	<20041004121006.1004197457.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<4813187803.20041005124050@cactus.dk>
	<20041011031117.1553474484.serbach@new.rr.com>
	<15811050820.20041011115723@cactus.dk>
	<20041011051840.1309280929.serbach@new.rr.com>
Message-ID: <5016909484.20041011133502@cactus.dk>

Hi Steven

>>> It happens - and remember: Users lie! <<

It relates to "what has happened" and "what did you do"?

> In this case the user's report was entirely accurate: numerals did not appear in any form in the Access report previewer: dates, page numbers, phone numbers, as well as regular numbers. The
> formatting marks (dollar signs, commas, hyphens, parentheses, etc.) would all appear in their proper places. It just looked like the numbers were white-on-white.

/gustav



From kost36 at otenet.gr  Mon Oct 11 06:51:55 2004
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:51:55 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] How to get bold only the left string of a field...
References: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7AC@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <00ca01c4af88$cb14fd60$0100a8c0@KOST36>

Hi all,
I use a query like 
Name:[first_name]&" "&[last_name]&", "&[job]..... bla bla
Is it possible to get bold only the first_name?

thank's
kostas konstanitnidis 




From JHewson at karta.com  Mon Oct 11 07:47:24 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 07:47:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BD9@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


December of last year Gustav gave us this link.
http://www.lebans.com/Report.htm#MixBold
I haven't tried it yet... but it looks promising.
HTH
Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:22 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue


I have a field in a table which is a Memo Field.
On the form, I am using a text box to hold the data.
The field shows 300+ characters in the table, but when I view it in a form (in Datasheet view) using the Shift/F2 zoom viewer, I can only see 255 characters.
When I send the data to an MS Word document, everything is there.
When I close the document and the form, then reopen the form, the data still will not appear in the Zoom Viewer.
But if I check the table itself, all of the data is there.
 
Any ideas on why I cannot view ALL of the data in the field???
 
TIA
 
Jeff B
 
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From JHewson at karta.com  Mon Oct 11 07:53:55 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 07:53:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Chart Problem
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BDA@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Roz,
I did figure it out, thank you.
It's actually three values.  The record ID is the third value that doesn't show.
I was trying to create two pie charts.  One pie chart shows the percentage of direct pay vs indirect pay (medical, dental, etc.); the other Company contributions vs employee contributions for benefits.

Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Chart Problem


Hi Jim

Did you manage to solve this one? I have to say I'm struggling to imagine a
pie-chart based on 2 values - what do you want it to look like?

Sorry I can't be more help

Roz

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: 07 October 2004 19:37
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Chart Problem


Folks,
I need to create a pie chart in an A2K report.
There are two fields in the same record of the query I need to use. There
are over 300 records in the query. 
When I create the chart, all 300+ values show for the first field.

How do I get the chart to reflect both fields?

TIA 

Jim H.


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct 11 10:19:22 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:19:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AB2@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Are you talking about the logical operators in SQL?  Joe Celko's books
get into that as I recall.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 8:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators


I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows
of such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 
 
Thanks!
Susan H. 
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From MPorter at acsalaska.com  Mon Oct 11 12:16:45 2004
From: MPorter at acsalaska.com (Porter, Mark)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:16:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
Message-ID: <635B80FE6C7D5A409586A6A110D97D170E4E41@ACSANCHOR.corp.acsalaska.com>

In the vein of optimization of SQL, I got a wealth of very specific information from this book and it might be worth a look;

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/159059164X/qid=1097514715/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i4_xgl14/102-7440773-1342551?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

And SQL performance does matter, even in today's systems.  Your low use database you create for 20 users today could become a component of a web enabled database with global availability tomorrow.

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Susan Harkins
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:06 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
> 
> 
> Knowing how it works behind the scenes can often help you write more
> efficient code. Also, can help you decide which choices will 
> perform better.
> With today's system, it hardly matters anymore unless you're 
> dealing with
> zads of records, but it's still the kind of stuff developers 
> want to know. 
> 
> Susan H.  
> 
> 
> 
> Hi John
> 
> > Me too
> 
> Ehh ... why?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> > I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work 
> behind the 
> > scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just 
> > interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If 
> anyone knows 
> > of such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link.
> 
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From Oleg_123 at xuppa.com  Mon Oct 11 17:37:39 2004
From: Oleg_123 at xuppa.com (Oleg_123 at xuppa.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:37:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Bush Kerry Debate
In-Reply-To: <001401c4af67$b502ac00$9111758f@aine>
References: <000501c4af12$906448e0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
	<001401c4af67$b502ac00$9111758f@aine>
Message-ID: <48883.216.223.34.13.1097534259.squirrel@heck.xuppa.com>

how came I didn't see any messages as per debate ? do I have to regisster
separately  ?

> Opps
>
> Apologies all
>
>
> Martin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 10:46 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
>
>
>> I'd hazard a guess that was meant for the OT list Martin.
>>
>> -- Andy Lacey
>> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin
>>> Reid Sent: 10 October 2004 22:27
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it true George Bush wore a radio receiver strapped to his
>>> back during
>>> the last debate with Kerry. Just watch it on the news here.
>>> they showed a
>>> close up of his back and the outline of a rectangle under the
>>> back of his
>>> jacket and a wire running up to his ear.
>>>
>>> Martin
>>> --
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From Subscriptions at servicexp.com  Mon Oct 11 17:59:01 2004
From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:59:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Ohms Calculations
In-Reply-To: <48883.216.223.34.13.1097534259.squirrel@heck.xuppa.com>
Message-ID: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOAEKDECAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>


 Has anyone already wrote out the calculations for the Ohms Laws in vb?

i.e...

P / E = I

Square Root of (P / R) = I

E / R = I

etc...

Thanks 
Robert Gracie



From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Oct 11 18:22:50 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:22:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BD9@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <200410112322.i9BNMuXH014427@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Jeff

On forms that have text boxes that are too small, because of real estate
issues, to display all the
text they can hold, I give a "double click to add/edit data in this field"
option.
User double clicks and up pops my own hand rolled unbound 'zoom' box. Bigger
than the Shift/F2 version
(You can add extra features as required)

I pass the relevant value to it when opened - allow edits to take place
there
and save changes once it's closed and refresh the 'calling' field on the
'calling' form

HTH

Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Monday, 11 October 2004 10:47 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue


December of last year Gustav gave us this link.
http://www.lebans.com/Report.htm#MixBold
I haven't tried it yet... but it looks promising.
HTH
Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:22 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue


I have a field in a table which is a Memo Field.
On the form, I am using a text box to hold the data.
The field shows 300+ characters in the table, but when I view it in a form
(in Datasheet view) using the Shift/F2 zoom viewer, I can only see 255
characters.
When I send the data to an MS Word document, everything is there.
When I close the document and the form, then reopen the form, the data still
will not appear in the Zoom Viewer.
But if I check the table itself, all of the data is there.
 
Any ideas on why I cannot view ALL of the data in the field???
 
TIA
 
Jeff B
 
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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Mon Oct 11 21:16:31 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:16:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328038549@starfleet.unknown.local>

Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad


From kost36 at otenet.gr  Tue Oct 12 00:22:24 2004
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:22:24 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BD9@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <001b01c4b01b$82a69fa0$0100a8c0@KOST36>

Jim,
fixed thank's
kostas konstantinidis

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue


>
> December of last year Gustav gave us this link.
> http://www.lebans.com/Report.htm#MixBold
> I haven't tried it yet... but it looks promising.
> HTH
> Jim H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:22 AM
> To: AccessD
> Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue
>
>
> I have a field in a table which is a Memo Field.
> On the form, I am using a text box to hold the data.
> The field shows 300+ characters in the table, but when I view it in a form 
> (in Datasheet view) using the Shift/F2 zoom viewer, I can only see 255 
> characters.
> When I send the data to an MS Word document, everything is there.
> When I close the document and the form, then reopen the form, the data 
> still will not appear in the Zoom Viewer.
> But if I check the table itself, all of the data is there.
>
> Any ideas on why I cannot view ALL of the data in the field???
>
> TIA
>
> Jeff B
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 12 01:34:05 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:34:05 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Bush Kerry Debate
In-Reply-To: <48883.216.223.34.13.1097534259.squirrel@heck.xuppa.com>
Message-ID: <000901c4b025$78fc0f80$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Oleg

Such topics are banned from this list. We do, however, have a separate list
for those who want to discuss politics, religion, life, the meaning of the
universe etc. It's called the OT (off-topic) list. You can subscribe to
that. See instructions on the web site. Go to
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/lists/whatandhow.htm

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Oleg_123 at xuppa.com
> Sent: 11 October 2004 23:38
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Bush Kerry Debate
> 
> 
> how came I didn't see any messages as per debate ? do I have 
> to regisster separately  ?
> 
> > Opps
> >
> > Apologies all
> >
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 10:46 PM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Bush Kerry Debate
> >
> >
> >> I'd hazard a guess that was meant for the OT list Martin.
> >>
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> >>
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> >>> Reid Sent: 10 October 2004 22:27
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> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> during the last debate with Kerry. Just watch it on the news here.
> >>> they showed a
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct 12 03:26:26 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:26:26 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Ohms Calculations
In-Reply-To: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOAEKDECAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>
References: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOAEKDECAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>
Message-ID: <956281682.20041012102626@cactus.dk>

Hi Robert

Use Sqr(P / R) or (P / R)^(1 / 2)

/gustav

>  Has anyone already wrote out the calculations for the Ohms Laws in vb?

> i.e...

> P / E = I

> Square Root of (P / R) = I

> E / R = I

> etc...

> Thanks 
> Robert Gracie



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Oct 12 05:27:35 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 06:27:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43840787@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Care to share your bigger than shift-f2 function?  Sounds interesting.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue


Hi Jeff

On forms that have text boxes that are too small, because of real estate
issues, to display all the
text they can hold, I give a "double click to add/edit data in this
field"
option.
User double clicks and up pops my own hand rolled unbound 'zoom' box.
Bigger
than the Shift/F2 version
(You can add extra features as required)

I pass the relevant value to it when opened - allow edits to take place
there
and save changes once it's closed and refresh the 'calling' field on the
'calling' form

HTH

Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Monday, 11 October 2004 10:47 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue


December of last year Gustav gave us this link.
http://www.lebans.com/Report.htm#MixBold
I haven't tried it yet... but it looks promising.
HTH
Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:22 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Memo field / Text Box issue


I have a field in a table which is a Memo Field.
On the form, I am using a text box to hold the data.
The field shows 300+ characters in the table, but when I view it in a
form
(in Datasheet view) using the Shift/F2 zoom viewer, I can only see 255
characters.
When I send the data to an MS Word document, everything is there.
When I close the document and the form, then reopen the form, the data
still
will not appear in the Zoom Viewer.
But if I check the table itself, all of the data is there.
 
Any ideas on why I cannot view ALL of the data in the field???
 
TIA
 
Jeff B
 
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From joconnell at indy.rr.com  Tue Oct 12 08:59:51 2004
From: joconnell at indy.rr.com (Joseph O'Connell)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:59:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <085e01c4b063$d0bcc6e0$6701a8c0@joe>

Vlad,

Is there a reason that the form cannot be bound to the table/query/SQL that
is used to populate the recordset?

Joe O'Connell

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS <actebs at actebs.com.au>
To: access group <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: Monday, October 11, 2004 9:23 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,

Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?

Any help much appreciated...

Vlad
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 12 10:20:57 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:20:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ABA@infoserver01.infostat.local>

There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Oct 12 10:23:51 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:23:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ABA@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20041012152353.GSTH2413.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I've never tried this -- would the form's Recordset property work? 

Susan H. 

There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The only
thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You can
display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same as a
continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to actually
accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust





From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Tue Oct 12 10:37:29 2004
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:37:29 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED5FD@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

At the risk of being contentious... if you want to look at the recordset as
if it was bound, and for it to behave as if it was bound... why not bind it?

;)

Roz

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] 
Sent: 12 October 2004 16:21
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The only
thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You can
display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same as a
continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to actually
accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and save
once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 12 10:48:28 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:48:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD50558332803854C@starfleet.unknown.local>

**I originally sent this exclusively to Joe for some reason. I clicked
reply without checking the "To" field. Sorry Joe...**

Joe/Charlotte,

I'm screwing around trying to teach myself some new tricks and am
creating a totally unbound app using A2K. I know, I know, everyone is
saying, well why not use VB, but that's not the point of this exercise.

So basically, I have an FE that basically opens up recordsets as needed
from the BE. Problem is I can't figure out how to populate a continuous
form which is one of the really cool features access has over other
development environments. List boxes and combos are fine as I create a
string and populate like a Value List.

So any ideas?

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Oct 12 10:50:43 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:50:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF91F@DISABILITYINS01>

Uh oh, here we go...

<grin>

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


At the risk of being contentious... if you want to look at the recordset as
if it was bound, and for it to behave as if it was bound... why not bind it?

;)

Roz

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] 
Sent: 12 October 2004 16:21
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The only
thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You can
display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same as a
continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to actually
accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and save
once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 12 10:59:49 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:59:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ABC@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If you set the recordset property, you still have a bound form.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


I've never tried this -- would the form's Recordset property work? 

Susan H. 

There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust



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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 12 11:06:09 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 02:06:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BBE@starfleet.unknown.local>

Susan,

I'm not sure what you mean by the "forms recordset" property. The Help
MS provides with this property is more to do with using it like:

Set rst = me.recordset................

But that is assuming you have a bound form to a query or table.

Is there another method you have in mind that I'm missing?

Thanks
Vlad

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


I've never tried this -- would the form's Recordset property work? 

Susan H. 

There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust



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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Oct 12 11:16:17 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:16:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ABC@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20041012161622.KEEO2494.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

So the issue is updatability? Forcing a snapshot Recordset should solve that
problem. 

Susan H. 

If you set the recordset property, you still have a bound form.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Oct 12 11:16:17 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:16:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ABC@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20041012161629.KEGY2494.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Oh... Oh... I see what they're after. I was confused -- forgive me. ;) 

Susan H. 

If you set the recordset property, you still have a bound form.




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Oct 12 11:21:25 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:21:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
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Message-ID: <20041012162126.KIYS2494.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

You create the recordset object, set the Form.Recordset property to equal
the recordset... 

Form.Recordset = rst

Works with controls too:

Form.Control.Recordset = rst!field

But then, I'm not sure I'm understanding the problem. So, you might want to
just ignore me. And, I'm not positive it would even work. 

What exactly is the issue? There are lots of ways to populate a form without
using a Recordset. Are you stuck with a Recordset object? Beyond that,
what's the problem -- you don't want the form to update the underlying
source? If that's the case, use a Snapshot Recordset object -- ADO's aren't
updateable, I don't remember about DAO though. 

Susan H. 

Susan,

I'm not sure what you mean by the "forms recordset" property. The Help MS
provides with this property is more to do with using it like:

Set rst = me.recordset................

But that is assuming you have a bound form to a query or table.

Is there another method you have in mind that I'm missing?




From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Tue Oct 12 11:59:38 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:59:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
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Vlad,

 I've done this in other languages, but not in Access, but the technique
would be similar. Basically, you'd be duplicating everything that Access
does for a bound form.

  You'd have a form with a series of unbound text boxes to form the rows.
Using the absolute position property, you'd keep track of which row is the
"top" row in your current display.  Initially, you'd paint the rows by
looping through the recordset from that point forward by the number of rows
on your form.

  In the past, I've maintained the current rows in an array, which made
scrolling up/down faster as I would only need to fetch the new record, copy
it to the array, then put the array on the screen.  Rather then moving
elements within the array, I'd simply keep track of which element was first
on the screen. For example, the if there were 15 rows and the user had
scrolled down 5 rows, element 6 would be the top row and element 5 would be
the last row.  I'd paint the screen by going 6 - 15, then 1 - 5.

  Updating was accomplished by having the use scroll a record to the middle
of the screen (it was surrounded by a box to make it stand out), then
pressing "U" for update.  This applied for deletes as well.  I also allowed
the user to page up/down one screen at a time.

  In this way, your in total control of everything.  However with A2K and
up, the ability to bind a recordset in code to a forms recordsource has
really taken away the last excuse for using an unbound form (putting work
into a transaction).

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,

Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?

Any help much appreciated...

Vlad
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 12 12:12:28 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:12:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ABF@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The problem is still one of continuous forms.  The only thing that
creates a continuous form is a bound recordset.  With unbound forms, you
have to view one record at a time.  A continuous form is an optical
illusion of sorts, with only one set of controls on the form, so there
is no unbound equivalent unless you want to populate a list box or a
grid with the data.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:06 AM
To: access group
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Susan,

I'm not sure what you mean by the "forms recordset" property. The Help
MS provides with this property is more to do with using it like:

Set rst = me.recordset................

But that is assuming you have a bound form to a query or table.

Is there another method you have in mind that I'm missing?

Thanks
Vlad

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Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


I've never tried this -- would the form's Recordset property work? 

Susan H. 

There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust



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From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Oct 12 12:24:02 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:24:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF920@DISABILITYINS01>

I just bought this book.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596005733/qid=1097601592/sr=2-1/ref=
pd_ka_2_1/102-0324991-1214550

I have just started reading it but it is definitely educational.  Let me
know how much I don't know.  ;-)

It also has a good tutorial about indexes and how they actually work, btrees
and all that, plus what happens in an index when you insert, delete and
update the data (field) the index is on.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Porter, Mark [mailto:MPorter at acsalaska.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 1:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] inner workings of operators


In the vein of optimization of SQL, I got a wealth of very specific
information from this book and it might be worth a look;

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/159059164X/qid=1097514715/sr=8
-4/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i4_xgl14/102-7440773-1342551?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

And SQL performance does matter, even in today's systems.  Your low use
database you create for 20 users today could become a component of a web
enabled database with global availability tomorrow.

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of 
> Susan Harkins
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 11:06 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
> 
> 
> Knowing how it works behind the scenes can often help you write more
> efficient code. Also, can help you decide which choices will 
> perform better.
> With today's system, it hardly matters anymore unless you're 
> dealing with
> zads of records, but it's still the kind of stuff developers 
> want to know. 
> 
> Susan H.  
> 
> 
> 
> Hi John
> 
> > Me too
> 
> Ehh ... why?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> > I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work 
> behind the 
> > scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just 
> > interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If 
> anyone knows 
> > of such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link.
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Oct 12 12:25:19 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:25:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ABF@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20041012172521.GVDG2444.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm probably missing something real obvious here, but this worked for me. 

I used AutoForm to create a quick form on Employees, then changed it to a
Continuous form and deleted the RecordSource property. All the controls
remained intact with their default Name and Control Source property
settings.  

Then, I used the following code to populate the form:

Private Sub Form_Load()
  Dim rst As ADODB.Recordset
  Set rst = New ADODB.Recordset
  rst.Open "Employees", CurrentProject.Connection, adOpenStatic
  Set Me.Recordset = rst
End Sub

Worked for me -- form is still continuous and it doesn't update the
underlying source. It's strictly a browsing form. If you wanted to update,
you could change the adOpenStatic setting. I didn't spend much time testing
it either, so I may be missing something. 

Susan H. 

The problem is still one of continuous forms.  The only thing that creates a
continuous form is a bound recordset.  With unbound forms, you have to view
one record at a time.  A continuous form is an optical illusion of sorts,
with only one set of controls on the form, so there is no unbound equivalent
unless you want to populate a list box or a grid with the data.




From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Oct 12 12:47:38 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 13:47:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF921@DISABILITYINS01>

What you are missing is that Vlad is a glutton for punishment.

<grin, duck and run>

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


I'm probably missing something real obvious here, but this worked for me. 

I used AutoForm to create a quick form on Employees, then changed it to a
Continuous form and deleted the RecordSource property. All the controls
remained intact with their default Name and Control Source property
settings.  

Then, I used the following code to populate the form:

Private Sub Form_Load()
  Dim rst As ADODB.Recordset
  Set rst = New ADODB.Recordset
  rst.Open "Employees", CurrentProject.Connection, adOpenStatic
  Set Me.Recordset = rst
End Sub

Worked for me -- form is still continuous and it doesn't update the
underlying source. It's strictly a browsing form. If you wanted to update,
you could change the adOpenStatic setting. I didn't spend much time testing
it either, so I may be missing something. 

Susan H. 

The problem is still one of continuous forms.  The only thing that creates a
continuous form is a bound recordset.  With unbound forms, you have to view
one record at a time.  A continuous form is an optical illusion of sorts,
with only one set of controls on the form, so there is no unbound equivalent
unless you want to populate a list box or a grid with the data.


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Oct 12 13:35:02 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:35:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF921@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <20041012183558.KBOV2383.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

So, is the solution that simple or did I miss something earlier? 

Susan H. 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form

What you are missing is that Vlad is a glutton for punishment.

<grin, duck and run>




From JColby at dispec.com  Tue Oct 12 13:51:34 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 14:51:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF922@DISABILITYINS01>

What you missed is that he specifically does NOT want to go the bound route,
just for the pure joy of learning something new.  Your solution is, in the
end, a bound solution.

If it were ME, I'd learn something useful like classes and withevents
(though he might very well be a pro at that by now).

;-)

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 2:35 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


So, is the solution that simple or did I miss something earlier? 

Susan H. 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form

What you are missing is that Vlad is a glutton for punishment.

<grin, duck and run>


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From Subscriptions at servicexp.com  Tue Oct 12 16:53:02 2004
From: Subscriptions at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:53:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Ohms Calculations
In-Reply-To: <956281682.20041012102626@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <GPEGJHKJCEPGJIEIOEOOCEKPECAA.Subscriptions@servicexp.com>

Thanks A Million!!


Robert Gracie
 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 4:26 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ohms Calculations


Hi Robert

Use Sqr(P / R) or (P / R)^(1 / 2)

/gustav

>  Has anyone already wrote out the calculations for the Ohms Laws in vb?

> i.e...

> P / E = I

> Square Root of (P / R) = I

> E / R = I

> etc...

> Thanks 
> Robert Gracie

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Oct 12 20:46:10 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:46:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
Message-ID: <005401c4b0c6$6ade4020$6501a8c0@user>

I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....


Code:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Public Function EmailWebLetterRecipients()
Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String
Dim VarEmailto As Variant
Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer
Dim db As Database
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Set db = CurrentDb


StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
  
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE

With rs
    .MoveFirst
    .Edit

     VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
    .Update
    .close
End With
'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)

'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)

Normal_exit:
    DoCmd.SetWarnings True
    Exit Function

Err_Handler:
    MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "]  " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message"
    Resume Normal_exit
End Function


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Kath Pelletti
Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
KP at SDSOnline.net

From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Oct 12 21:31:41 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:31:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <005401c4b0c6$6ade4020$6501a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <200410130231.i9D2VnXH020887@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hi Kath
Is this DAO?
If it is I think you have to declare the db bit somewhere

You have Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)

But I cant see a dimension of the db paramter in you code (Is your code
snipped?)

If it's missing try db = currentdb or something like that
 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:46 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset

I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep getting
an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....


Code:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Public Function EmailWebLetterRecipients() Dim strerrormsg, strsql,
StrQueryName As String Dim VarEmailto As Variant Dim intrecno,
IntWebLetterID As Integer Dim db As Database Dim rs As DAO.Recordset Set db
= CurrentDb


StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
  
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open recordset
on saved query        ERROR HERE

With rs
    .MoveFirst
    .Edit

     VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
    .Update
    .close
End With
'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)

'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)

Normal_exit:
    DoCmd.SetWarnings True
    Exit Function

Err_Handler:
    MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "]  " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0,
strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message"
    Resume Normal_exit
End Function


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

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Fax: 9505-6430
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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 12 21:50:28 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:50:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BBF@starfleet.unknown.local>

Kath,

Maybe like this:

Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String
Dim VarEmailto As Variant
Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer
Dim db As DAO.Database '>>>>>>>>>I changed this
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb


StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
  
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open
recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE

'>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Made a few changes here
If rs.recordcount > 0 then
Rs.movefirst
	Do Until rs.EOF
		With rs
		    .Edit
     			VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
    		    .Update	
		End With
	rs.movenext
	loop
End if

'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)

'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)

Rs.close
Set rs = nothing
Db.close
Set db = nothing

HTH. You will need to check over it as I did it off the top of my head,
but you'll get the idea anyway...

Vlad


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:46 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs =
' After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....


Code:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------

Public Function EmailWebLetterRecipients()
Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String
Dim VarEmailto As Variant
Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer
Dim db As Database
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Set db = CurrentDb


StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
  
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open
recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE

With rs
    .MoveFirst
    .Edit

     VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
    .Update
    .close
End With
'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)

'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)

Normal_exit:
    DoCmd.SetWarnings True
    Exit Function

Err_Handler:
    MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "]  " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0,
strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message"
    Resume Normal_exit
End Function


------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------

Kath Pelletti
Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
Ph: 9505-6714
Fax: 9505-6430
KP at SDSOnline.net
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Oct 12 22:00:23 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:00:23 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <005401c4b0c6$6ade4020$6501a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <416D26E7.19952.6509EBC@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

> I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
> After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
> 

The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are 
probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for 
your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to 
store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()" 
and set the value of the function before calling the query  with 
"retval = StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just
"StoredValue Forms!myForm.myControl"








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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Tue Oct 12 22:04:01 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (dw-murphy at cox.net)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 23:04:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
Message-ID: <20041013030401.GFKB24021.fed1rmmtao01.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

Hi Kath,

You need to add your query parameters to the parameters collection.  I am away from my references now so can't give a good example, but look in the Developers Handbook under recordsets based on queries.  They give the code for doing this.  It is DAO.

Doug
> 
> From: "ACTEBS" <actebs at actebs.com.au>
> Date: 2004/10/12 Tue PM 10:50:28 EDT
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> 	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
> 
> Kath,
> 
> Maybe like this:
> 
> Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String
> Dim VarEmailto As Variant
> Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer
> Dim db As DAO.Database '>>>>>>>>>I changed this
> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
> 
> Set db = CurrentDb
> 
> 
> StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
>   
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open
> recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE
> 
> '>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Made a few changes here
> If rs.recordcount > 0 then
> Rs.movefirst
> 	Do Until rs.EOF
> 		With rs
> 		    .Edit
>      			VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
>     		    .Update	
> 		End With
> 	rs.movenext
> 	loop
> End if
> 
> 'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)
> 
> 'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)
> 
> Rs.close
> Set rs = nothing
> Db.close
> Set db = nothing
> 
> HTH. You will need to check over it as I did it off the top of my head,
> but you'll get the idea anyway...
> 
> Vlad
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:46 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
> 
> 
> I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
> getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs =
> ' After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
> 
> 
> Code:
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> 
> Public Function EmailWebLetterRecipients()
> Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String
> Dim VarEmailto As Variant
> Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer
> Dim db As Database
> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
> Set db = CurrentDb
> 
> 
> StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
>   
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open
> recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE
> 
> With rs
>     .MoveFirst
>     .Edit
> 
>      VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
>     .Update
>     .close
> End With
> 'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)
> 
> 'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)
> 
> Normal_exit:
>     DoCmd.SetWarnings True
>     Exit Function
> 
> Err_Handler:
>     MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "]  " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0,
> strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message"
>     Resume Normal_exit
> End Function
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> 
> Kath Pelletti
> Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
> Ph: 9505-6714
> Fax: 9505-6430
> KP at SDSOnline.net
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Oct 12 22:05:11 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:05:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
References: <200410130231.i9D2VnXH020887@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <009801c4b0d1$74607b30$6501a8c0@user>

Darren - thanks for you help offline....

It appears that the code will run when I replace this query with a simpler one - so I will play with that.....

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darren DICK 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:31 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  Hi Kath
  Is this DAO?
  If it is I think you have to declare the db bit somewhere

  You have Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)

  But I cant see a dimension of the db paramter in you code (Is your code
  snipped?)

  If it's missing try db = currentdb or something like that
   

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:46 AM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset

  I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep getting
  an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
  After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....


  Code:

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  ----

  Public Function EmailWebLetterRecipients() Dim strerrormsg, strsql,
  StrQueryName As String Dim VarEmailto As Variant Dim intrecno,
  IntWebLetterID As Integer Dim db As Database Dim rs As DAO.Recordset Set db
  = CurrentDb


  StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
    
  Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open recordset
  on saved query        ERROR HERE

  With rs
      .MoveFirst
      .Edit

       VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
      .Update
      .close
  End With
  'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)

  'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)

  Normal_exit:
      DoCmd.SetWarnings True
      Exit Function

  Err_Handler:
      MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "]  " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0,
  strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message"
      Resume Normal_exit
  End Function


  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  ----

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  Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
  Ph: 9505-6714
  Fax: 9505-6430
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Oct 12 22:08:17 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:08:17 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BBF@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <00a001c4b0d1$e32988e0$6501a8c0@user>

Thanks Vlad - I thought that was the problem too....but it seems that it just doesn't like my query even though the query runs fine in the normal access window. 

I may have to change it to an sql statement. Sigh - I had already tried that this morning but just couldn't get the syntax right ....

I will have another go at the sql syntax and if I can't nail it post back.

Thanks
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ACTEBS 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:50 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  Kath,

  Maybe like this:

  Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String
  Dim VarEmailto As Variant
  Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer
  Dim db As DAO.Database '>>>>>>>>>I changed this
  Dim rs As DAO.Recordset

  Set db = CurrentDb


  StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
    
  Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open
  recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE

  '>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Made a few changes here
  If rs.recordcount > 0 then
  Rs.movefirst
  Do Until rs.EOF
  With rs
      .Edit
       VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
          .Update 
  End With
  rs.movenext
  loop
  End if

  'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)

  'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)

  Rs.close
  Set rs = nothing
  Db.close
  Set db = nothing

  HTH. You will need to check over it as I did it off the top of my head,
  but you'll get the idea anyway...

  Vlad


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:46 AM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
  getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs =
  ' After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....


  Code:

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
  --------

  Public Function EmailWebLetterRecipients()
  Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String
  Dim VarEmailto As Variant
  Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer
  Dim db As Database
  Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
  Set db = CurrentDb


  StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail"
    
  Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open
  recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE

  With rs
      .MoveFirst
      .Edit

       VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail")
      .Update
      .close
  End With
  'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto)

  'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile)

  Normal_exit:
      DoCmd.SetWarnings True
      Exit Function

  Err_Handler:
      MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "]  " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0,
  strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message"
      Resume Normal_exit
  End Function


  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
  --------

  Kath Pelletti
  Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd.
  Ph: 9505-6714
  Fax: 9505-6430
  KP at SDSOnline.net
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Oct 12 22:28:42 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:28:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
References: <416D26E7.19952.6509EBC@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <00bc01c4b0d4$bd165810$6501a8c0@user>

Yes - there is a form parameter in the query so I'll have to think over that logic then as the query is used by multiple processes...

The static function sounds a good solution.
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stuart McLachlan 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

  > I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
  > After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
  > 

  The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are 
  probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for 
  your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

  My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to 
  store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()" 
  and set the value of the function before calling the query  with 
  "retval = StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just
  "StoredValue Forms!myForm.myControl"








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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Oct 12 22:44:36 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:44:36 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <416D26E7.19952.6509EBC@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200410130344.i9D3iiXH003971@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hey Andrew
I'm back from leave
So...when's a good time to meet??

Talk soon

Denz
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset

On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

> I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
> After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
> 

The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are
probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for
your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to
store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()" 
and set the value of the function before calling the query  with "retval =
StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just "StoredValue
Forms!myForm.myControl"








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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Oct 12 22:50:15 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:50:15 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
References: <416D26E7.19952.6509EBC@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <00e601c4b0d7$bfcc7000$6501a8c0@user>

Done, done and done. Thanks all for your help. I had no idea that a form criterion parameter couldn't be used in that way and could have wasted even more time. 

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stuart McLachlan 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

  > I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
  > After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
  > 

  The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are 
  probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for 
  your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

  My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to 
  store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()" 
  and set the value of the function before calling the query  with 
  "retval = StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just
  "StoredValue Forms!myForm.myControl"








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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Oct 12 23:27:38 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:27:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <00e601c4b0d7$bfcc7000$6501a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <000301c4b0dc$fb9fbce0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

BTW, the concept of the "static stored value" can be made even more useful
if you use a collection to store the value, keyed on the name of the
variable.  In that way you can use a single function to set / retrieve a
multitude of different stored values.

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private mcolFilter As Collection
Private mblnFltrInitialized As Boolean
Public Function Fltr(lstrName As String, Optional lvarValue As Variant) As
Variant
On Error GoTo Err_Fltr
    'This sets up the collection if it isn't already initialized
    If mblnFltrInitialized = False Then
        Set mcolFilter = New Collection
        mblnFltrInitialized = True        
    End If

    If IsMissing(lvarValue) Then
        'This path is used to retrieve a value from the collection
        On Error Resume Next
        Fltr = mcolFilter(lstrName)
        If Err <> 0 Then
            Fltr = Null
        End If
    Else
        'This path is used to store a variable on the collection
        On Error Resume Next
        mcolFilter.Remove lstrName
        mcolFilter.Add lvarValue, lstrName
        Fltr = lvarValue
    End If
Exit_Fltr:
Exit Function
Err_Fltr:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function basFltrFunctions.Fltr"
        Resume Exit_Fltr
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

One function can now be called with a "variable name" and a value to store a
value into a "variable".  

	fltr MyValue, "MyVarName"

MyValue can be anything at all, string numeric etc.

If the variable name already exists, then it is removed and replaced with
the new value.  This effectively stores the value passed in even if there
was already a value in the collection keyed on that name.

To retrieve a value, just call the function passing in the name of the
"variable" you want the value of.  If there is no such variable name a null
will be returned.

	MyVar = fltr("MyVarName")

I don't remember right off hand whether a control or form can be passed in
to a variant though I believe it can.  Thus you need to be careful that you
either do not pass in pointers to objects or that you make sure you clean
out the collection before terminating your program.  If there are no
objects, it doesn't matter, i.e. the collection and its values can be
cleaned up by VB as the app closes.  If there are pointers to objects in
there however VB may not correctly clean up the collection and the program
may hang instead of exiting.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


Done, done and done. Thanks all for your help. I had no idea that a form
criterion parameter couldn't be used in that way and could have wasted even
more time. 

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stuart McLachlan 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

  > I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
  > After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
  > 

  The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are 
  probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for

  your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

  My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to

  store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()"

  and set the value of the function before calling the query  with 
  "retval = StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just
  "StoredValue Forms!myForm.myControl"








  -- 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Oct 12 23:47:09 2004
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:47:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <000301c4b0dc$fb9fbce0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000401c4b0df$b29d37e0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>

Oops, sorry, the call to set a value would be 

	Fltr "MyVarName", MyVarValue

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


BTW, the concept of the "static stored value" can be made even more useful
if you use a collection to store the value, keyed on the name of the
variable.  In that way you can use a single function to set / retrieve a
multitude of different stored values.

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private mcolFilter As Collection
Private mblnFltrInitialized As Boolean
Public Function Fltr(lstrName As String, Optional lvarValue As Variant) As
Variant On Error GoTo Err_Fltr
    'This sets up the collection if it isn't already initialized
    If mblnFltrInitialized = False Then
        Set mcolFilter = New Collection
        mblnFltrInitialized = True        
    End If

    If IsMissing(lvarValue) Then
        'This path is used to retrieve a value from the collection
        On Error Resume Next
        Fltr = mcolFilter(lstrName)
        If Err <> 0 Then
            Fltr = Null
        End If
    Else
        'This path is used to store a variable on the collection
        On Error Resume Next
        mcolFilter.Remove lstrName
        mcolFilter.Add lvarValue, lstrName
        Fltr = lvarValue
    End If
Exit_Fltr:
Exit Function
Err_Fltr:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function basFltrFunctions.Fltr"
        Resume Exit_Fltr
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

One function can now be called with a "variable name" and a value to store a
value into a "variable".  

	fltr MyValue, "MyVarName"

MyValue can be anything at all, string numeric etc.

If the variable name already exists, then it is removed and replaced with
the new value.  This effectively stores the value passed in even if there
was already a value in the collection keyed on that name.

To retrieve a value, just call the function passing in the name of the
"variable" you want the value of.  If there is no such variable name a null
will be returned.

	MyVar = fltr("MyVarName")

I don't remember right off hand whether a control or form can be passed in
to a variant though I believe it can.  Thus you need to be careful that you
either do not pass in pointers to objects or that you make sure you clean
out the collection before terminating your program.  If there are no
objects, it doesn't matter, i.e. the collection and its values can be
cleaned up by VB as the app closes.  If there are pointers to objects in
there however VB may not correctly clean up the collection and the program
may hang instead of exiting.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


Done, done and done. Thanks all for your help. I had no idea that a form
criterion parameter couldn't be used in that way and could have wasted even
more time. 

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stuart McLachlan 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

  > I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
  > After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
  > 

  The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are 
  probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for

  your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

  My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to

  store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()"

  and set the value of the function before calling the query  with 
  "retval = StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just
  "StoredValue Forms!myForm.myControl"








  -- 
  Stuart


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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Oct 12 23:51:08 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 14:51:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <200410130344.i9D3iiXH003971@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <200410130451.i9D4pGXH011829@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hey Andrew
I'm back from leave
So...when's a good time to meet??

Talk soon

Denz 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren DICK
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset

Hey Andrew
I'm back from leave
So...when's a good time to meet??

Talk soon

Denz
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset

On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

> I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
> After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
> 

The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are
probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for
your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to
store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()" 
and set the value of the function before calling the query  with "retval =
StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just "StoredValue
Forms!myForm.myControl"








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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Wed Oct 13 06:11:28 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:11:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328038551@starfleet.unknown.local>

Susan,

You're a god. What was stuffing things up was that I was doing:

Set Me.RecordSource = rst

Instead of:

Set Me.Recordset = rst

Thanks
Vlad


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 3:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


I'm probably missing something real obvious here, but this worked for
me. 

I used AutoForm to create a quick form on Employees, then changed it to
a Continuous form and deleted the RecordSource property. All the
controls remained intact with their default Name and Control Source
property settings.  

Then, I used the following code to populate the form:

Private Sub Form_Load()
  Dim rst As ADODB.Recordset
  Set rst = New ADODB.Recordset
  rst.Open "Employees", CurrentProject.Connection, adOpenStatic
  Set Me.Recordset = rst
End Sub

Worked for me -- form is still continuous and it doesn't update the
underlying source. It's strictly a browsing form. If you wanted to
update, you could change the adOpenStatic setting. I didn't spend much
time testing it either, so I may be missing something. 

Susan H. 

The problem is still one of continuous forms.  The only thing that
creates a continuous form is a bound recordset.  With unbound forms, you
have to view one record at a time.  A continuous form is an optical
illusion of sorts, with only one set of controls on the form, so there
is no unbound equivalent unless you want to populate a list box or a
grid with the data.


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct 13 08:25:15 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:25:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328038551@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <20041013132549.YRXM2403.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Glad to help. :) 

Susan H. 

Susan,

You're a god. What was stuffing things up was that I was doing:

Set Me.RecordSource = rst

Instead of:

Set Me.Recordset = rst




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Oct 13 09:06:45 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:06:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D002@main2.marlow.com>

Ah, the ol' 'Doing it just because you want to know you can do it!'
philosophy.  Welcome to my domain! <grin>

Here's a few pointers on what you are trying to do.  Number one, no, you
can't.  You can't 'trick' Access into using a continuous form, with unbound
data.  If you create a recordset, and set the form's Recordset to your
recordset, you still have a bound form.  The 'continuous form' feature of
the form, is similar to the navigation buttons.  They only work while Access
is in control of the data the form represents. (bound).

You can, however, roll your own unbound version of a continuous form.  What
is a continuous form?  It's just a form that displays more then one record
at a time.  To replicate that in an unbound manner, you simply have to make
'copies' of the controls.  This is somewhat of a pain, since Access doesn't
really allow for control arrays (like VB does), so you have to create the
controls you need at design time, and hide the ones you aren't using.
Scrolling through the records is simply a matter of keeping track of your
'pointer' record.  ie, if you have 6 'rows' of controls, to display a record
(one record per row), and you have 12 records to display, at the beginning,
record 1 will be in the first row (2 in the 2nd, etc...).  Moving down one,
now record 2 will be in the first row, and so on.  I have done this before,
but didn't scroll like that, I put in left/right buttons that let you jump
to the next 'set' of records (moving right would put the 7th record in row
1).

Why in the world would you want to do this for practical purposes?  Well,
the time I built my own, it was because I needed to create a dynamic
combobox, that didn't work right in an bound form.  I needed the combo box
to display only the vendors available to buy a particular product from.  In
a single form, that was fine, but when I went with a continuous form, the
combobox didn't 'act' seperately, changing one changed them all (because
that's how continuous forms work, it's not really a control array...).  With
an unbound solution, I was able to set each combo box individually.  It took
another hour to two to build the form that way, but it accomplished the
goal, and quite frankly was just as functional as a bound form. (for what I
needed to use it for...)

Hope this helps a little in your quest for 'Doing it just because you want
to know you can do it!'! <Grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:48 AM
To: access group
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


**I originally sent this exclusively to Joe for some reason. I clicked
reply without checking the "To" field. Sorry Joe...**

Joe/Charlotte,

I'm screwing around trying to teach myself some new tricks and am
creating a totally unbound app using A2K. I know, I know, everyone is
saying, well why not use VB, but that's not the point of this exercise.

So basically, I have an FE that basically opens up recordsets as needed
from the BE. Problem is I can't figure out how to populate a continuous
form which is one of the really cool features access has over other
development environments. List boxes and combos are fine as I create a
string and populate like a Value List.

So any ideas?

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Oct 13 09:15:37 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:15:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] inner workings of operators
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D005@main2.marlow.com>

Yeah, the archives I host do use a homemade memo field search engine.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] inner workings of operators


Hi Eric

> Ohwell must be someone able to find more... Gustav?:-)

I would be happy to do so - if I only knew what to look for?

I mean - I know what In and Or mean but can't see how I can influence
a lot on how they work "behind the scenes", neither do I care that
much.

Am I missing something?
I'm not about to build my own search engine - but would that be a
purpose? Could be nice with a quick search in memo fields. Hasn't Drew
worked with this?

/gustav


> I'm looking for technical explanation of how In and Or work behind the
> scenes -- don't need a tutorial on how to use either operator, just
> interested in how the engine interprets and uses them. If anyone knows of
> such documentation, I'd be grateful for a link. 

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From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Oct 13 09:22:35 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:22:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF925@DISABILITYINS01>

I was wondering when you would check in!

;-)

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Ah, the ol' 'Doing it just because you want to know you can do it!'
philosophy.  Welcome to my domain! <grin>

Here's a few pointers on what you are trying to do.  Number one, no, you
can't.  You can't 'trick' Access into using a continuous form, with unbound
data.  If you create a recordset, and set the form's Recordset to your
recordset, you still have a bound form.  The 'continuous form' feature of
the form, is similar to the navigation buttons.  They only work while Access
is in control of the data the form represents. (bound).

You can, however, roll your own unbound version of a continuous form.  What
is a continuous form?  It's just a form that displays more then one record
at a time.  To replicate that in an unbound manner, you simply have to make
'copies' of the controls.  This is somewhat of a pain, since Access doesn't
really allow for control arrays (like VB does), so you have to create the
controls you need at design time, and hide the ones you aren't using.
Scrolling through the records is simply a matter of keeping track of your
'pointer' record.  ie, if you have 6 'rows' of controls, to display a record
(one record per row), and you have 12 records to display, at the beginning,
record 1 will be in the first row (2 in the 2nd, etc...).  Moving down one,
now record 2 will be in the first row, and so on.  I have done this before,
but didn't scroll like that, I put in left/right buttons that let you jump
to the next 'set' of records (moving right would put the 7th record in row
1).

Why in the world would you want to do this for practical purposes?  Well,
the time I built my own, it was because I needed to create a dynamic
combobox, that didn't work right in an bound form.  I needed the combo box
to display only the vendors available to buy a particular product from.  In
a single form, that was fine, but when I went with a continuous form, the
combobox didn't 'act' seperately, changing one changed them all (because
that's how continuous forms work, it's not really a control array...).  With
an unbound solution, I was able to set each combo box individually.  It took
another hour to two to build the form that way, but it accomplished the
goal, and quite frankly was just as functional as a bound form. (for what I
needed to use it for...)

Hope this helps a little in your quest for 'Doing it just because you want
to know you can do it!'! <Grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:48 AM
To: access group
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


**I originally sent this exclusively to Joe for some reason. I clicked
reply without checking the "To" field. Sorry Joe...**

Joe/Charlotte,

I'm screwing around trying to teach myself some new tricks and am
creating a totally unbound app using A2K. I know, I know, everyone is
saying, well why not use VB, but that's not the point of this exercise.

So basically, I have an FE that basically opens up recordsets as needed
from the BE. Problem is I can't figure out how to populate a continuous
form which is one of the really cool features access has over other
development environments. List boxes and combos are fine as I create a
string and populate like a Value List.

So any ideas?

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Wed Oct 13 09:49:02 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:49:02 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC0@starfleet.unknown.local>

Drew,

They just don't understand how our minds work do they?... ; )

I knew when I posted this that I would be ridiculed, but it's nice to
have an understanding soul to the strange workings and motivations of
the eccentric mind that we share isn't it Drew?...

I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while
the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains
totally unbound.

One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total
flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when the
app is started...

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Thursday, 14 October 2004 12:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Ah, the ol' 'Doing it just because you want to know you can do it!'
philosophy.  Welcome to my domain! <grin>

Here's a few pointers on what you are trying to do.  Number one, no, you
can't.  You can't 'trick' Access into using a continuous form, with
unbound data.  If you create a recordset, and set the form's Recordset
to your recordset, you still have a bound form.  The 'continuous form'
feature of the form, is similar to the navigation buttons.  They only
work while Access is in control of the data the form represents.
(bound).

You can, however, roll your own unbound version of a continuous form.
What is a continuous form?  It's just a form that displays more then one
record at a time.  To replicate that in an unbound manner, you simply
have to make 'copies' of the controls.  This is somewhat of a pain,
since Access doesn't really allow for control arrays (like VB does), so
you have to create the controls you need at design time, and hide the
ones you aren't using. Scrolling through the records is simply a matter
of keeping track of your 'pointer' record.  ie, if you have 6 'rows' of
controls, to display a record (one record per row), and you have 12
records to display, at the beginning, record 1 will be in the first row
(2 in the 2nd, etc...).  Moving down one, now record 2 will be in the
first row, and so on.  I have done this before, but didn't scroll like
that, I put in left/right buttons that let you jump to the next 'set' of
records (moving right would put the 7th record in row 1).

Why in the world would you want to do this for practical purposes?
Well, the time I built my own, it was because I needed to create a
dynamic combobox, that didn't work right in an bound form.  I needed the
combo box to display only the vendors available to buy a particular
product from.  In a single form, that was fine, but when I went with a
continuous form, the combobox didn't 'act' seperately, changing one
changed them all (because that's how continuous forms work, it's not
really a control array...).  With an unbound solution, I was able to set
each combo box individually.  It took another hour to two to build the
form that way, but it accomplished the goal, and quite frankly was just
as functional as a bound form. (for what I needed to use it for...)

Hope this helps a little in your quest for 'Doing it just because you
want to know you can do it!'! <Grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:48 AM
To: access group
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


**I originally sent this exclusively to Joe for some reason. I clicked
reply without checking the "To" field. Sorry Joe...**

Joe/Charlotte,

I'm screwing around trying to teach myself some new tricks and am
creating a totally unbound app using A2K. I know, I know, everyone is
saying, well why not use VB, but that's not the point of this exercise.

So basically, I have an FE that basically opens up recordsets as needed
from the BE. Problem is I can't figure out how to populate a continuous
form which is one of the really cool features access has over other
development environments. List boxes and combos are fine as I create a
string and populate like a Value List.

So any ideas?

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Oct 13 09:53:49 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:53:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D007@main2.marlow.com>

Been having too much fun off list.  Just getting over a cold right now, so
my head is still spinning a bit.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 9:23 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


I was wondering when you would check in!

;-)

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Ah, the ol' 'Doing it just because you want to know you can do it!'
philosophy.  Welcome to my domain! <grin>

Here's a few pointers on what you are trying to do.  Number one, no, you
can't.  You can't 'trick' Access into using a continuous form, with unbound
data.  If you create a recordset, and set the form's Recordset to your
recordset, you still have a bound form.  The 'continuous form' feature of
the form, is similar to the navigation buttons.  They only work while Access
is in control of the data the form represents. (bound).

You can, however, roll your own unbound version of a continuous form.  What
is a continuous form?  It's just a form that displays more then one record
at a time.  To replicate that in an unbound manner, you simply have to make
'copies' of the controls.  This is somewhat of a pain, since Access doesn't
really allow for control arrays (like VB does), so you have to create the
controls you need at design time, and hide the ones you aren't using.
Scrolling through the records is simply a matter of keeping track of your
'pointer' record.  ie, if you have 6 'rows' of controls, to display a record
(one record per row), and you have 12 records to display, at the beginning,
record 1 will be in the first row (2 in the 2nd, etc...).  Moving down one,
now record 2 will be in the first row, and so on.  I have done this before,
but didn't scroll like that, I put in left/right buttons that let you jump
to the next 'set' of records (moving right would put the 7th record in row
1).

Why in the world would you want to do this for practical purposes?  Well,
the time I built my own, it was because I needed to create a dynamic
combobox, that didn't work right in an bound form.  I needed the combo box
to display only the vendors available to buy a particular product from.  In
a single form, that was fine, but when I went with a continuous form, the
combobox didn't 'act' seperately, changing one changed them all (because
that's how continuous forms work, it's not really a control array...).  With
an unbound solution, I was able to set each combo box individually.  It took
another hour to two to build the form that way, but it accomplished the
goal, and quite frankly was just as functional as a bound form. (for what I
needed to use it for...)

Hope this helps a little in your quest for 'Doing it just because you want
to know you can do it!'! <Grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:48 AM
To: access group
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


**I originally sent this exclusively to Joe for some reason. I clicked
reply without checking the "To" field. Sorry Joe...**

Joe/Charlotte,

I'm screwing around trying to teach myself some new tricks and am
creating a totally unbound app using A2K. I know, I know, everyone is
saying, well why not use VB, but that's not the point of this exercise.

So basically, I have an FE that basically opens up recordsets as needed
from the BE. Problem is I can't figure out how to populate a continuous
form which is one of the really cool features access has over other
development environments. List boxes and combos are fine as I create a
string and populate like a Value List.

So any ideas?

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Oct 13 10:04:34 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:04:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF926@DISABILITYINS01>

Hmmm.... You share Drew's eccentric mind?  Is Vlad an alter ego?  Or is Drew
the alter ego?  How many more of you are there in that eccentric mind?

I believe this a first for the list, I can't recall ever seeing a split
personality here before.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Drew,

They just don't understand how our minds work do they?... ; )

I knew when I posted this that I would be ridiculed, but it's nice to
have an understanding soul to the strange workings and motivations of
the eccentric mind that we share isn't it Drew?...

I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while
the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains
totally unbound.

One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total
flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when the
app is started...

Vlad

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Thursday, 14 October 2004 12:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Ah, the ol' 'Doing it just because you want to know you can do it!'
philosophy.  Welcome to my domain! <grin>

Here's a few pointers on what you are trying to do.  Number one, no, you
can't.  You can't 'trick' Access into using a continuous form, with
unbound data.  If you create a recordset, and set the form's Recordset
to your recordset, you still have a bound form.  The 'continuous form'
feature of the form, is similar to the navigation buttons.  They only
work while Access is in control of the data the form represents.
(bound).

You can, however, roll your own unbound version of a continuous form.
What is a continuous form?  It's just a form that displays more then one
record at a time.  To replicate that in an unbound manner, you simply
have to make 'copies' of the controls.  This is somewhat of a pain,
since Access doesn't really allow for control arrays (like VB does), so
you have to create the controls you need at design time, and hide the
ones you aren't using. Scrolling through the records is simply a matter
of keeping track of your 'pointer' record.  ie, if you have 6 'rows' of
controls, to display a record (one record per row), and you have 12
records to display, at the beginning, record 1 will be in the first row
(2 in the 2nd, etc...).  Moving down one, now record 2 will be in the
first row, and so on.  I have done this before, but didn't scroll like
that, I put in left/right buttons that let you jump to the next 'set' of
records (moving right would put the 7th record in row 1).

Why in the world would you want to do this for practical purposes?
Well, the time I built my own, it was because I needed to create a
dynamic combobox, that didn't work right in an bound form.  I needed the
combo box to display only the vendors available to buy a particular
product from.  In a single form, that was fine, but when I went with a
continuous form, the combobox didn't 'act' seperately, changing one
changed them all (because that's how continuous forms work, it's not
really a control array...).  With an unbound solution, I was able to set
each combo box individually.  It took another hour to two to build the
form that way, but it accomplished the goal, and quite frankly was just
as functional as a bound form. (for what I needed to use it for...)

Hope this helps a little in your quest for 'Doing it just because you
want to know you can do it!'! <Grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:48 AM
To: access group
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


**I originally sent this exclusively to Joe for some reason. I clicked
reply without checking the "To" field. Sorry Joe...**

Joe/Charlotte,

I'm screwing around trying to teach myself some new tricks and am
creating a totally unbound app using A2K. I know, I know, everyone is
saying, well why not use VB, but that's not the point of this exercise.

So basically, I have an FE that basically opens up recordsets as needed
from the BE. Problem is I can't figure out how to populate a continuous
form which is one of the really cool features access has over other
development environments. List boxes and combos are fine as I create a
string and populate like a Value List.

So any ideas?

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 13 10:19:32 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 17:19:32 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC0@starfleet.unknown.local>
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC0@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <4630591338.20041013171932@cactus.dk>

Hi Vlad

> I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while
> the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains
> totally unbound.

Yes, this is nice for a read-only application ... do these count for
90% of all frontends?

And why bother with updating of records - users are sooo demanding!
Saves a lot of multi-user troubles as well.

> One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total
> flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when the
> app is started...

Yes, much more fun to deal with the links any time a form is to be
loaded. You could create a class for that ...

/gustav



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct 13 10:36:09 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:36:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <4630591338.20041013171932@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041013153612.BCXX2420.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, you could have it both ways -- just create the right recordset. ;) I
find myself using the Recordset property more and more. 

I have to ask though, why is bound a problem?????????

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHHHHAAH <sorry>

Susan H. 

Hi Vlad

> I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while 
> the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains 
> totally unbound.

Yes, this is nice for a read-only application ... do these count for 90% of
all frontends?

And why bother with updating of records - users are sooo demanding!
Saves a lot of multi-user troubles as well.

> One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total 
> flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when 
> the app is started...




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct 13 10:36:09 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:36:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF926@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <20041013153623.BDAE2420.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

You jarred Rabbit out of a sound sleep with that one... She generally likes
to be the first, no matter what it is... 

Thanks JC, she's going to chatter at me all day now. :) 

Susan H. 

I believe this a first for the list, I can't recall ever seeing a split
personality here before.




From actebs at actebs.com.au  Wed Oct 13 10:44:32 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 01:44:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC1@starfleet.unknown.local>

Hi Gustav,

>>Yes, this is nice for a read-only application ... do these count for
90% of all frontends?

With DAO it works like a normal bound app. I agree with ADO it is
useless. I'm doing this with DAO so it serves it's purpose...

>>Yes, much more fun to deal with the links any time a form is to be
loaded. You could create a class for that ...

Only need to do this once. The app is loaded and the path automatically
stored within a text box on the main menu. Only have to read this value
when making a connection eg:

Set dbs = Opendatabase(Forms!frmMainMenu!txtAppPath)

It works quite well...

Vlad

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, 14 October 2004 1:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi Vlad

> I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while 
> the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains 
> totally unbound.

Yes, this is nice for a read-only application ... do these count for 90%
of all frontends?

And why bother with updating of records - users are sooo demanding!
Saves a lot of multi-user troubles as well.

> One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total 
> flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when 
> the app is started...

Yes, much more fun to deal with the links any time a form is to be
loaded. You could create a class for that ...

/gustav

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Oct 13 10:45:27 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:45:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AC6@infoserver01.infostat.local>

LOL
Not only a split personality, but one who talks to himself! ;-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Colby, John [mailto:JColby at dispec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:05 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hmmm.... You share Drew's eccentric mind?  Is Vlad an alter ego?  Or is
Drew the alter ego?  How many more of you are there in that eccentric
mind?

I believe this a first for the list, I can't recall ever seeing a split
personality here before.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Drew,

They just don't understand how our minds work do they?... ; )

I knew when I posted this that I would be ridiculed, but it's nice to
have an understanding soul to the strange workings and motivations of
the eccentric mind that we share isn't it Drew?...

I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while
the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains
totally unbound.

One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total
flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when the
app is started...

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Thursday, 14 October 2004 12:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Ah, the ol' 'Doing it just because you want to know you can do it!'
philosophy.  Welcome to my domain! <grin>

Here's a few pointers on what you are trying to do.  Number one, no, you
can't.  You can't 'trick' Access into using a continuous form, with
unbound data.  If you create a recordset, and set the form's Recordset
to your recordset, you still have a bound form.  The 'continuous form'
feature of the form, is similar to the navigation buttons.  They only
work while Access is in control of the data the form represents.
(bound).

You can, however, roll your own unbound version of a continuous form.
What is a continuous form?  It's just a form that displays more then one
record at a time.  To replicate that in an unbound manner, you simply
have to make 'copies' of the controls.  This is somewhat of a pain,
since Access doesn't really allow for control arrays (like VB does), so
you have to create the controls you need at design time, and hide the
ones you aren't using. Scrolling through the records is simply a matter
of keeping track of your 'pointer' record.  ie, if you have 6 'rows' of
controls, to display a record (one record per row), and you have 12
records to display, at the beginning, record 1 will be in the first row
(2 in the 2nd, etc...).  Moving down one, now record 2 will be in the
first row, and so on.  I have done this before, but didn't scroll like
that, I put in left/right buttons that let you jump to the next 'set' of
records (moving right would put the 7th record in row 1).

Why in the world would you want to do this for practical purposes? Well,
the time I built my own, it was because I needed to create a dynamic
combobox, that didn't work right in an bound form.  I needed the combo
box to display only the vendors available to buy a particular product
from.  In a single form, that was fine, but when I went with a
continuous form, the combobox didn't 'act' seperately, changing one
changed them all (because that's how continuous forms work, it's not
really a control array...).  With an unbound solution, I was able to set
each combo box individually.  It took another hour to two to build the
form that way, but it accomplished the goal, and quite frankly was just
as functional as a bound form. (for what I needed to use it for...)

Hope this helps a little in your quest for 'Doing it just because you
want to know you can do it!'! <Grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:48 AM
To: access group
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


**I originally sent this exclusively to Joe for some reason. I clicked
reply without checking the "To" field. Sorry Joe...**

Joe/Charlotte,

I'm screwing around trying to teach myself some new tricks and am
creating a totally unbound app using A2K. I know, I know, everyone is
saying, well why not use VB, but that's not the point of this exercise.

So basically, I have an FE that basically opens up recordsets as needed
from the BE. Problem is I can't figure out how to populate a continuous
form which is one of the really cool features access has over other
development environments. List boxes and combos are fine as I create a
string and populate like a Value List.

So any ideas?

Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 1:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


There's not really any such thing as a continuous *unbound* form.  The
only thing that makes it a continuous form is the bound recordset.  You
can display a recordset in a grid control, but it won't behave the same
as a continuous form.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying to
actually accomplish, someone can help.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:17 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi people,
 
Does anyone know of a method to display a DAO recordset within a A2K
continuous unbound form? Also, is it possible to edit the recordset and
save once changes are made?
 
Any help much appreciated...
 
Vlad
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Wed Oct 13 10:54:20 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:54:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB0865318D39@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

ROTFL!
Gustav, I oughta send you a cleanup bill for the coffee I sprayed on my
keyboard and monitor in a fit of hysterical laughter.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Hi Vlad

> I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while 
> the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains 
> totally unbound.

Yes, this is nice for a read-only application ... do these count for 90%
of all frontends?

And why bother with updating of records - users are sooo demanding!
Saves a lot of multi-user troubles as well.

> One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total 
> flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when 
> the app is started...

Yes, much more fun to deal with the links any time a form is to be
loaded. You could create a class for that ...

/gustav


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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Oct 13 11:09:56 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:09:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page
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Group,

I have an 8" report set to 4 2" columns.  I utilize a report footer to hold
an overall sum, which I reference in the report header.  Currently, the
report prints an extra blank page which I am assuming is the report footer.


Current settings for the report footer section are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

Current settings for the "sum" control are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

What am I missing?  I don't want to print this blank page but can't seem to
find a combination of settings to prevent it.



Mark


From CMackin at quiznos.com  Wed Oct 13 11:14:22 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:14:22 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27EFEC@snowmass.quiznos.net>

Sounds like it may not be the Report Footer, have you tried deleting the Footer and running it to see if you still get the extra page?

-Chris Mackin

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Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:10 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Group,

I have an 8" report set to 4 2" columns.  I utilize a report footer to hold
an overall sum, which I reference in the report header.  Currently, the
report prints an extra blank page which I am assuming is the report footer.


Current settings for the report footer section are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

Current settings for the "sum" control are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

What am I missing?  I don't want to print this blank page but can't seem to
find a combination of settings to prevent it.



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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Oct 13 11:21:38 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:21:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677217FFC4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Yeah, But we're left to figure out if we're talking to the FE or the BE of
the split.....<g>
Jim


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Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:45 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


LOL
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 13 11:23:27 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:23:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
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Hi Vlad

Hmmm ... it must be slower to open the database each time a form is to
be opened - looks to me like throwing pebbles in front of you as you
move along. I just can't see one practical benefit of this approach
except for the eventual fun of it and in some very rare cases.

> Set dbs = Opendatabase(Forms!frmMainMenu!txtAppPath)

To speed this up, you could store dbs as a Static in Opendatabase!
This must be the tip of the day ... Oh well, somebody please stop me!

/gustav


>>>Yes, this is nice for a read-only application ... do these count for
> 90% of all frontends?

> With DAO it works like a normal bound app. I agree with ADO it is
> useless. I'm doing this with DAO so it serves it's purpose...

>>>Yes, much more fun to deal with the links any time a form is to be
> loaded. You could create a class for that ...

> Only need to do this once. The app is loaded and the path automatically
> stored within a text box on the main menu. Only have to read this value
> when making a connection eg:

> Set dbs = Opendatabase(Forms!frmMainMenu!txtAppPath)

> It works quite well...

> Vlad

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Thursday, 14 October 2004 1:20 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


> Hi Vlad

>> I liked Susan's solution as it only binds the form temporarily, while 
>> the user is viewing it. Once the form is shut down, the app remains 
>> totally unbound.

> Yes, this is nice for a read-only application ... do these count for 90%
> of all frontends?

> And why bother with updating of records - users are sooo demanding!
> Saves a lot of multi-user troubles as well.

>> One of the advantages of this approach too is that it gives you total 
>> flexibility to the path of the BE. No more refreshing the links when 
>> the app is started...

> Yes, much more fun to deal with the links any time a form is to be
> loaded. You could create a class for that ...

> /gustav



From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Oct 13 11:54:11 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:54:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF927@DISABILITYINS01>

>Yeah, But we're left to figure out if we're talking to the FE or the BE of
the split.....<g>

ROTFLMAO!

In the end, you're talking to both since the split is itself a fiction of
the deranged mind.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:22 PM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


Yeah, But we're left to figure out if we're talking to the FE or the BE of
the split.....<g>
Jim


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Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Recordset to a Continuous Form


LOL
Not only a split personality, but one who talks to himself! ;-}

Charlotte Foust



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From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Oct 13 12:31:59 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:31:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access News
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BF8@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Below is from the FMS monthly e-newsletter.
Thought the list would be interested.

Jim H. 

MICROSOFT INVESTING HEAVILY IN ACCESS 
Last week at the Access Advisor conference in Las Vegas, Microsoft announced their plans for enhancing Access over the next several versions. In his keynote, Richard McAniff, Corporate Vice President of Access, Excel and Office Programmability, revealed the future direction for Access and their renewed commitment to the roots of making databases easy, along with SharePoint integration for web connectivity. With the largest Access development team since the early days of Access, Microsoft is refocusing its efforts on making Access the no-brainer choice for Excel users who need more power. By simplifying the development of database applications, information workers will be empowered to solve more database problems on their own. Meanwhile, the developer features will allow the continued creation of professional solutions. Overall, the investment Microsoft is making, the change in focus and simpler marketing message for Office, is quite tremendous and bodes well for the future of Access.
At FMS we are extremely pleased to see this new focus. Rather than focusing on SQL Server or .NET, Microsoft is returning focus to Access' core strength: a rapid development environment for users that can be extended by experienced database developers and programmers. The new initiative will result in even more databases that can be created by information workers, and gives skilled Access users and developers more opportunities. While there are tradeoffs between Access and other, more advanced platforms, making it easier to create Access projects will allow organizations to build applications they could not cost-justify on more expensive platforms. We at FMS have always believed there are a wide range of business and organizational challenges that require database solutions. Some justify expensive and sophisticated solutions, while others are best satisfied with the rapid, cost effective solutions Access offers. 



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Oct 13 12:47:16 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:47:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access News
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486888@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Thanks Jim but I have to wonder if FMS attended the same keynote speech that I did. I was at this Advisor event and looked forward to the keynote entitled "The Future of Access".  In it Richard McAniff demoed SharePoint and Access connectivity to SharePoint data but he did not once talk about the direction of Access, future features, SQL connectivity (ADPs that is) or anything other than a "rah-rah we support you developers" with no real details.

OTOH, all the .NET sessions showed new features that are "just like Access" so one has to wonder what is the true direction.  Also at Alison Balter's pre-conference session "M$ Access Development" she showed a few apps that connected to SQL data.  One attendee noted that she was using mdbs and asked why she wasn't using an ADP.  She neatly sidestepped the issue that has come up on this list in recent days and simply stated "MDB is the file format that M$ is standing behind and promoting the use of".  Of course this is just me paraphrasing but you get the gist of what is being said here.

I had lunch with some Access developers who noted the same lack of info on the future of Access at the keynote.  I guess we should take comfort in the fact that the Access team is larger but to what end?

Jim DeMarco
Director Application Development
Hudson Health Plan


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Below is from the FMS monthly e-newsletter.
Thought the list would be interested.

Jim H. 

MICROSOFT INVESTING HEAVILY IN ACCESS 
Last week at the Access Advisor conference in Las Vegas, Microsoft announced their plans for enhancing Access over the next several versions. In his keynote, Richard McAniff, Corporate Vice President of Access, Excel and Office Programmability, revealed the future direction for Access and their renewed commitment to the roots of making databases easy, along with SharePoint integration for web connectivity. With the largest Access development team since the early days of Access, Microsoft is refocusing its efforts on making Access the no-brainer choice for Excel users who need more power. By simplifying the development of database applications, information workers will be empowered to solve more database problems on their own. Meanwhile, the developer features will allow the continued creation of professional solutions. Overall, the investment Microsoft is making, the change in focus and simpler marketing message for Office, is quite tremendous and bodes well for the future of Access.
At FMS we are extremely pleased to see this new focus. Rather than focusing on SQL Server or .NET, Microsoft is returning focus to Access' core strength: a rapid development environment for users that can be extended by experienced database developers and programmers. The new initiative will result in even more databases that can be created by information workers, and gives skilled Access users and developers more opportunities. While there are tradeoffs between Access and other, more advanced platforms, making it easier to create Access projects will allow organizations to build applications they could not cost-justify on more expensive platforms. We at FMS have always believed there are a wide range of business and organizational challenges that require database solutions. Some justify expensive and sophisticated solutions, while others are best satisfied with the rapid, cost effective solutions Access offers. 




 



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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Wed Oct 13 12:59:22 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:59:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7BB@nprdex02.nns.com>

Chris,

Thanks for the suggestion to verify that the problem lies with the report
footer.  I deleted the report footer and the blank page no longer prints.

Now that we have confirmed that it is the report footer and I still need the
functionality of the report footer "sum"...how can I prevent the report
footer from printing?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Mackin, Christopher [mailto:CMackin at quiznos.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Sounds like it may not be the Report Footer, have you tried deleting the
Footer and running it to see if you still get the extra page?

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:10 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Group,

I have an 8" report set to 4 2" columns.  I utilize a report footer to hold
an overall sum, which I reference in the report header.  Currently, the
report prints an extra blank page which I am assuming is the report footer.


Current settings for the report footer section are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

Current settings for the "sum" control are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

What am I missing?  I don't want to print this blank page but can't seem to
find a combination of settings to prevent it.



Mark
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From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Oct 13 13:24:42 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:24:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068BFA@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Mark,
Instead of referencing the footer with your header, use a Domain function.
You can use the DSum() function using the underlying query for the total in the header.

Jim H.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:59 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Chris,

Thanks for the suggestion to verify that the problem lies with the report
footer.  I deleted the report footer and the blank page no longer prints.

Now that we have confirmed that it is the report footer and I still need the
functionality of the report footer "sum"...how can I prevent the report
footer from printing?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Mackin, Christopher [mailto:CMackin at quiznos.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Sounds like it may not be the Report Footer, have you tried deleting the
Footer and running it to see if you still get the extra page?

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:10 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Group,

I have an 8" report set to 4 2" columns.  I utilize a report footer to hold
an overall sum, which I reference in the report header.  Currently, the
report prints an extra blank page which I am assuming is the report footer.


Current settings for the report footer section are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

Current settings for the "sum" control are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

What am I missing?  I don't want to print this blank page but can't seem to
find a combination of settings to prevent it.



Mark
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Oct 13 18:32:50 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:32:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AC9@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can suppress it in the print event of the footer by setting
PrintSection = False.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News) [mailto:Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Chris,

Thanks for the suggestion to verify that the problem lies with the
report footer.  I deleted the report footer and the blank page no longer
prints.

Now that we have confirmed that it is the report footer and I still need
the functionality of the report footer "sum"...how can I prevent the
report footer from printing?


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Mackin, Christopher [mailto:CMackin at quiznos.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Sounds like it may not be the Report Footer, have you tried deleting the
Footer and running it to see if you still get the extra page?

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Mitsules, Mark
S. (Newport News)
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:10 AM
To: [AccessD]
Subject: [AccessD] Report Footer Causes Extra Page


Group,

I have an 8" report set to 4 2" columns.  I utilize a report footer to
hold an overall sum, which I reference in the report header.  Currently,
the report prints an extra blank page which I am assuming is the report
footer.


Current settings for the report footer section are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

Current settings for the "sum" control are:
Visible=No
CanShrink=Yes

What am I missing?  I don't want to print this blank page but can't seem
to find a combination of settings to prevent it.



Mark
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Oct 13 18:37:31 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 16:37:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access News
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ACA@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I thought the quote "Microsoft is refocusing its efforts on making
Access the no-brainer choice for Excel users who need more power" was
most telling. The rather weak "Meanwhile, the developer features will
allow the continued creation of professional solutions" sounds like it
should mean something, but I don't know what, since professional
solutions aren't inherent in any tool but depend on the knowledge and
experience of the developer.  There really *aren't* any developer
features in Access 2003, they're in the extension tools for Visual
Studio. :-{

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:32 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Access News



Below is from the FMS monthly e-newsletter.
Thought the list would be interested.

Jim H. 

MICROSOFT INVESTING HEAVILY IN ACCESS 
Last week at the Access Advisor conference in Las Vegas, Microsoft
announced their plans for enhancing Access over the next several
versions. In his keynote, Richard McAniff, Corporate Vice President of
Access, Excel and Office Programmability, revealed the future direction
for Access and their renewed commitment to the roots of making databases
easy, along with SharePoint integration for web connectivity. With the
largest Access development team since the early days of Access,
Microsoft is refocusing its efforts on making Access the no-brainer
choice for Excel users who need more power. By simplifying the
development of database applications, information workers will be
empowered to solve more database problems on their own. Meanwhile, the
developer features will allow the continued creation of professional
solutions. Overall, the investment Microsoft is making, the change in
focus and simpler marketing message for Office, is quite tremendous and
bodes well for the future of Access. At FMS we are extremely pleased to
see this new focus. Rather than focusing on SQL Server or .NET,
Microsoft is returning focus to Access' core strength: a rapid
development environment for users that can be extended by experienced
database developers and programmers. The new initiative will result in
even more databases that can be created by information workers, and
gives skilled Access users and developers more opportunities. While
there are tradeoffs between Access and other, more advanced platforms,
making it easier to create Access projects will allow organizations to
build applications they could not cost-justify on more expensive
platforms. We at FMS have always believed there are a wide range of
business and organizational challenges that require database solutions.
Some justify expensive and sophisticated solutions, while others are
best satisfied with the rapid, cost effective solutions Access offers. 




From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Oct 13 20:15:21 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:15:21 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
References: <000301c4b0dc$fb9fbce0$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <003601c4b18b$471d9cb0$6501a8c0@user>

That's interesting - will keep it in mind. I don't have a need for it at present.

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John W. Colby 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 2:27 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  BTW, the concept of the "static stored value" can be made even more useful
  if you use a collection to store the value, keyed on the name of the
  variable.  In that way you can use a single function to set / retrieve a
  multitude of different stored values.

  Option Compare Database
  Option Explicit

  Private mcolFilter As Collection
  Private mblnFltrInitialized As Boolean
  Public Function Fltr(lstrName As String, Optional lvarValue As Variant) As
  Variant
  On Error GoTo Err_Fltr
      'This sets up the collection if it isn't already initialized
      If mblnFltrInitialized = False Then
          Set mcolFilter = New Collection
          mblnFltrInitialized = True        
      End If

      If IsMissing(lvarValue) Then
          'This path is used to retrieve a value from the collection
          On Error Resume Next
          Fltr = mcolFilter(lstrName)
          If Err <> 0 Then
              Fltr = Null
          End If
      Else
          'This path is used to store a variable on the collection
          On Error Resume Next
          mcolFilter.Remove lstrName
          mcolFilter.Add lvarValue, lstrName
          Fltr = lvarValue
      End If
  Exit_Fltr:
  Exit Function
  Err_Fltr:
          MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function basFltrFunctions.Fltr"
          Resume Exit_Fltr
      Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
  End Function

  One function can now be called with a "variable name" and a value to store a
  value into a "variable".  

  fltr MyValue, "MyVarName"

  MyValue can be anything at all, string numeric etc.

  If the variable name already exists, then it is removed and replaced with
  the new value.  This effectively stores the value passed in even if there
  was already a value in the collection keyed on that name.

  To retrieve a value, just call the function passing in the name of the
  "variable" you want the value of.  If there is no such variable name a null
  will be returned.

  MyVar = fltr("MyVarName")

  I don't remember right off hand whether a control or form can be passed in
  to a variant though I believe it can.  Thus you need to be careful that you
  either do not pass in pointers to objects or that you make sure you clean
  out the collection before terminating your program.  If there are no
  objects, it doesn't matter, i.e. the collection and its values can be
  cleaned up by VB as the app closes.  If there are pointers to objects in
  there however VB may not correctly clean up the collection and the program
  may hang instead of exiting.

  John W. Colby
  www.ColbyConsulting.com 

  Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
  http://folding.stanford.edu/

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:50 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


  Done, done and done. Thanks all for your help. I had no idea that a form
  criterion parameter couldn't be used in that way and could have wasted even
  more time. 

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Stuart McLachlan 
    To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving 
    Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:00 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


    On 13 Oct 2004 at 11:46, Kath Pelletti wrote:

    > I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep
  getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = '
    > After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help.....
    > 

    The problem is in the query "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmai". You are 
    probably using a reference a control on a form as a criterion/paramter for

    your query. You can't do that when you call the query as a recordset.

    My usual workaround is to create a Static function called StoredValue() to

    store the parameter, change the criterion in the query to "=StoredValue()"

    and set the value of the function before calling the query  with 
    "retval = StoredValue(Forms!myForm.myControl)" or just
    "StoredValue Forms!myForm.myControl"








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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 14 02:23:17 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:23:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: EPL?
Message-ID: <681171364.20041014092317@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Just got this from Programmer's Report on an upcoming language:

"Unlike databases that use hoc SELECT-FROM-WHERE queries against a
persistent data store, EPL employs a time-based persistent
ON-WHEN-THEN query against asynchronous data flows and historical
context data."

  http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=10121

/gustav



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 14 02:33:10 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:33:10 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access News
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486888@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486888@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <1761764787.20041014093310@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

> OTOH, all the .NET sessions showed new features that are "just like
> Access" so one has to wonder what is the true direction.  Also at
> Alison Balter's pre-conference session "M$ Access Development" she
> showed a few apps that connected to SQL data.  One attendee noted
> that she was using mdbs and asked why she wasn't using an ADP.  She
> neatly sidestepped the issue that has come up on this list in recent
> days and simply stated "MDB is the file format that M$ is standing
> behind and promoting the use of".  Of course this is just me
> paraphrasing but you get the gist of what is being said here.

Well, after all wasn't the ADP concept a misunderstanding
contradicting the original mission of Access "to be the key to access 
any source of data"? 

/gustav



From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Thu Oct 14 05:50:01 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:50:01 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Totalling numbers from a multiple entries in two fields
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF7311922C5@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

tblMain has 7 ethnicity options in the one field [Roots]. Each of the
options involves 10 or so different jobs [Work].

I have to find the numbers for each of the Roots options for each job
[Work].

I tried with a number of queries which I pasted bodily into Word to make an
instant report. But  some strange results is the consequence. 

Be very pleased to hear how an expert would go about it. 

Cheers paul  





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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Thu Oct 14 07:25:25 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:25:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access News
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74486892@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

I guess but I'm just thinking of all those who've invested in that format who seem to be losing support (thankfully I'm not in that group).

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access News


Hi Jim

> OTOH, all the .NET sessions showed new features that are "just like
> Access" so one has to wonder what is the true direction.  Also at
> Alison Balter's pre-conference session "M$ Access Development" she
> showed a few apps that connected to SQL data.  One attendee noted
> that she was using mdbs and asked why she wasn't using an ADP.  She
> neatly sidestepped the issue that has come up on this list in recent
> days and simply stated "MDB is the file format that M$ is standing
> behind and promoting the use of".  Of course this is just me
> paraphrasing but you get the gist of what is being said here.

Well, after all wasn't the ADP concept a misunderstanding
contradicting the original mission of Access "to be the key to access 
any source of data"? 

/gustav

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From starkey at wanadoo.nl  Thu Oct 14 11:17:18 2004
From: starkey at wanadoo.nl (StaRKeY)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:17:18 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <00a001c4b0d1$e32988e0$6501a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <20041014161339.C8BC95D216@smtp8.wanadoo.nl>

Mmmzzz don't wanna be fuzzy but one remark about the codesample though just
in case others wanna use it... To use a recordcount if I remember well, you
should always do a rs.movelast and a rs.movefirst first to populate the
recordset and get a reliable recordcount.

Regards, 
Eric Starkenburg 

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- 
Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Kath Pelletti 
Verzonden: woensdag 13 oktober 2004 05:08 
Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
Onderwerp: Re: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset 

Thanks Vlad - I thought that was the problem too....but it seems that it
just doesn't like my query even though the query runs fine in the normal
access window. 

I may have to change it to an sql statement. Sigh - I had already tried that
this morning but just couldn't get the syntax right ....

I will have another go at the sql syntax and if I can't nail it post back. 

Thanks 
Kath 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ACTEBS 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 12:50 PM 
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset 


  Kath, 

  Maybe like this: 

  Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String 
  Dim VarEmailto As Variant 
  Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer 
  Dim db As DAO.Database '>>>>>>>>>I changed this 
  Dim rs As DAO.Recordset 

  Set db = CurrentDb 


  StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail" 
    
  Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open 
  recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE 

  '>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Made a few changes here 
  If rs.recordcount > 0 then 
  Rs.movefirst 
  Do Until rs.EOF 
  With rs 
      .Edit 
       VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail") 
          .Update 
  End With 
  rs.movenext 
  loop 
  End if 

  'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto) 

  'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile) 

  Rs.close 
  Set rs = nothing 
  Db.close 
  Set db = nothing 

  HTH. You will need to check over it as I did it off the top of my head, 
  but you'll get the idea anyway... 

  Vlad 


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  Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:46 AM 
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset 


  I am trying to use a saved query for my recordset source....but keep 
  getting an error 'Too few parameters - expected 1' on the line 'Set rs = 
  ' After many hours, I can't fix it so would appreciate the help..... 


  Code: 

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
  -------- 

  Public Function EmailWebLetterRecipients() 
  Dim strerrormsg, strsql, StrQueryName As String 
  Dim VarEmailto As Variant 
  Dim intrecno, IntWebLetterID As Integer 
  Dim db As Database 
  Dim rs As DAO.Recordset 
  Set db = CurrentDb 


  StrQueryName = "QryWebLetter_ReadRecipientsEmail" 
    
  Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(StrQueryName, dbOpenDynaset)     ' Open 
  recordset on saved query        ERROR HERE 

  With rs 
      .MoveFirst 
      .Edit 

       VarEmailto = .Fields("LoginEmail") 
      .Update 
      .close 
  End With 
  'MsgBox ("Going to " & VarEmailto) 

  'Call Send_Email(VarEmailto, StrNamePDFFile) 

  Normal_exit: 
      DoCmd.SetWarnings True 
      Exit Function 

  Err_Handler: 
      MsgBox "Error: [" & Err.Number & "]  " & IIf(Len(strerrormsg) > 0, 
  strerrormsg, Err.Description), vbCritical, "Error Message" 
      Resume Normal_exit 
  End Function 


  ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
  -------- 

  Kath Pelletti 
  Software Design & Solutions Pty Ltd. 
  Ph: 9505-6714 
  Fax: 9505-6430 
  KP at SDSOnline.net 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Oct 14 11:18:43 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:18:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <20041014161339.C8BC95D216@smtp8.wanadoo.nl>
Message-ID: <20041014161843.CZS2420.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Some recordsets support the RecordCount property, some don't. Those that do
don't require the move through the records to get a count. Just refer to the
RecordCount property. Just wrote an article on it for Inside Microsoft
Access -- should be out this winter sometime. 

Susan H. 

Mmmzzz don't wanna be fuzzy but one remark about the codesample though just
in case others wanna use it... To use a recordcount if I remember well, you
should always do a rs.movelast and a rs.movefirst first to populate the
recordset and get a reliable recordcount.




From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 14 12:04:26 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:04:26 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <20041014161843.CZS2420.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20041014161843.CZS2420.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <536040243.20041014190426@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

Without having read your article I think this may be a concern only
for ODBC attached tables. But I haven't studied it closely.

/gustav


> Some recordsets support the RecordCount property, some don't. Those that do
> don't require the move through the records to get a count. Just refer to the
> RecordCount property. Just wrote an article on it for Inside Microsoft
> Access -- should be out this winter sometime. 

> Susan H. 

> Mmmzzz don't wanna be fuzzy but one remark about the codesample though just
> in case others wanna use it... To use a recordcount if I remember well, you
> should always do a rs.movelast and a rs.movefirst first to populate the
> recordset and get a reliable recordcount.



From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 14 12:02:08 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:02:08 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Query a text file without attach or import
Message-ID: <14835902294.20041014190208@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Should you ever need it, you can query a text file directly without
importing or attaching it first. The trich is to understand that
Access regards the directory of the text file as a "database":

  SELECT
    [pics#txt].Field1,
    [pics#txt].Field2
  FROM
    [pics#txt] IN '' [Text;DATABASE=c:\windows\temp;];

or:

  SELECT
    Field1,
    Field2
  FROM
    [Text;DATABASE=c:\windows\temp;HDR=YES].[pics.txt];


I should note that - as to my testings - even if you specify HDR=NO,
Access still reads the first line for the column names.

These syntax are very handy when you need to read temporary text files
where you do not wish to attach these at all.

/gustav



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Oct 14 12:09:34 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:09:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407A6@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of
13490391.  Does anyone have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question
de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 14 12:19:06 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:19:06 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ACF@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It also depends on the type of recordset and the location (client or
server).  An ADO recordset may simply return a -1, meaning that yes,
there are records.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 9:19 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


Some recordsets support the RecordCount property, some don't. Those that
do don't require the move through the records to get a count. Just refer
to the RecordCount property. Just wrote an article on it for Inside
Microsoft Access -- should be out this winter sometime. 

Susan H. 

Mmmzzz don't wanna be fuzzy but one remark about the codesample though
just in case others wanna use it... To use a recordcount if I remember
well, you should always do a rs.movelast and a rs.movefirst first to
populate the recordset and get a reliable recordcount.


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Oct 14 12:24:29 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:24:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <536040243.20041014190426@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041014172429.BTTH2420.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

The providers is a huge factor. ;) 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

Without having read your article I think this may be a concern only for ODBC
attached tables. But I haven't studied it closely.




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 14 12:24:54 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:24:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AD1@infoserver01.infostat.local>

-2147483633

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:10 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From liz at symphonyinfo.com  Thu Oct 14 12:26:14 2004
From: liz at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:26:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407A6@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <E1CI9Lb-0000he-00@pop-a065d19.pas.sa.earthlink.net>

Karen,

 -2147483633

(yes, this is on a sticky note on the side of my computer)

Liz

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Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color

I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Thu Oct 14 12:35:32 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:35:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407A6@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <000001c4b214$35033830$0200a8c0@COA3>

Try -2147483633

Steve


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Karen
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Oct 14 12:37:58 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:37:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407A8@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Thank you thank you thank you.  Perfect.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


-2147483633

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:10 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Thu Oct 14 12:46:54 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:46:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB0865318D44@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Well, that all depends. 

-2147483633 will give you the current 3D objects color setting in your
Display properties, which is used for non-XP style command buttons,
however the actual color displayed will vary from machine to machine if
they changed their color theme (I've seen buttons rendered in everything
from Light Blue to Hot Pink).

13160660 is the "classic" Windows button color (95-2000), which looks
out of place on an XP screen.


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Karen
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 14 12:48:53 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:48:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AD4@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You don't need a sticky note.  Just open any form in design view and
look at the color of the default background.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:liz at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Karen,

 -2147483633

(yes, this is on a sticky note on the side of my computer)

Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color

I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Thu Oct 14 13:09:12 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:09:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AD4@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000301c4b218$e8a76420$0200a8c0@COA3>

Actually, Copy/Paste it from the Form Bkgr is even better, why try to
remember those 10 digits?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


You don't need a sticky note.  Just open any form in design view and
look at the color of the default background.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:liz at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Karen,

 -2147483633

(yes, this is on a sticky note on the side of my computer)

Liz

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color

I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 14 13:31:48 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:31:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AD7@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It has the added benefit of keeping your buttons or whatever colored to
match the current background settings of Windows.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) [mailto:Developer at ultradnt.com]

Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Actually, Copy/Paste it from the Form Bkgr is even better, why try to
remember those 10 digits?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


You don't need a sticky note.  Just open any form in design view and
look at the color of the default background.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:liz at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Karen,

 -2147483633

(yes, this is on a sticky note on the side of my computer)

Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color

I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Thu Oct 14 14:24:55 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:24:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AD7@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000401c4b223$7c855990$0200a8c0@COA3>

Are you sayting if you copy/paste the numbers from Form bkgr to text box
back color,  it won't match the Windows background?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


It has the added benefit of keeping your buttons or whatever colored to
match the current background settings of Windows.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) [mailto:Developer at ultradnt.com]

Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Actually, Copy/Paste it from the Form Bkgr is even better, why try to
remember those 10 digits?


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


You don't need a sticky note.  Just open any form in design view and
look at the color of the default background.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:liz at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Karen,

 -2147483633

(yes, this is on a sticky note on the side of my computer)

Liz

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color

I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Oct 14 14:34:20 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 20:34:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <20041014161843.CZS2420.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000a01c4b224$cdae5e60$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Are you sure Susan? Here's my findings with a table of 6 records

Dim db As Database
Dim rst As Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("CONTACTS", dbOpenTable)
MsgBox rst.RecordCount

Gives an answer of 6

But

Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM CONTACTS")
MsgBox rst.RecordCount

Gives an answer of 1.

As does
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("CONTACTS", dbOpenDynaset)

If you then do

Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM CONTACTS")
If Not rst.EOF Then
  rst.MoveLast
  rst.MoveFirst
  MsgBox rst.RecordCount
End If

You get a reliable 6. (Note to folks, donn't do a Movelast without checking
EOF. If the table's empty the Movelast collapses). So I reckon Dynaset
recordtypes support RecordCount but do require the Movelast.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Susan Harkins
> Sent: 14 October 2004 17:19
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
> 
> 
> Some recordsets support the RecordCount property, some don't. 
> Those that do don't require the move through the records to 
> get a count. Just refer to the RecordCount property. Just 
> wrote an article on it for Inside Microsoft Access -- should 
> be out this winter sometime. 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> Mmmzzz don't wanna be fuzzy but one remark about the 
> codesample though just in case others wanna use it... To use 
> a recordcount if I remember well, you should always do a 
> rs.movelast and a rs.movefirst first to populate the 
> recordset and get a reliable recordcount.
> 
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Oct 14 14:31:57 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:31:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F0471AA55@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Exactly. -2147483633 is not an RGB color number, it tells Access to go use
one of the System colors instead.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> Sent:	Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:32 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
> 
> It has the added benefit of keeping your buttons or whatever colored to
> match the current background settings of Windows.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) [mailto:Developer at ultradnt.com]
> 
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:09 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
> 
> 
> Actually, Copy/Paste it from the Form Bkgr is even better, why try to
> remember those 10 digits?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:49 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
> 
> 
> You don't need a sticky note.  Just open any form in design view and
> look at the color of the default background.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liz Doering [mailto:liz at symphonyinfo.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:26 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
> 
> 
> Karen,
> 
>  -2147483633
> 
> (yes, this is on a sticky note on the side of my computer)
> 
> Liz
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
> Karen
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
> 
> I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
> buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
> have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.
> 
> Karen Nicholson
> National Laboratory
> Xerox Global Services
> 
> 
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 14 14:47:48 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:47:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4b224$cdae5e60$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKGENGKIAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

<<You get a reliable 6. (Note to folks, donn't do a Movelast without
checking
EOF. If the table's empty the Movelast collapses). So I reckon Dynaset
recordtypes support RecordCount but do require the Movelast.>>

  It's hit or miss depending on the size of the recordset.  If JET thinks
it's going to take too long to fully populate it, it finishes the job in the
background.  Code starts executing again while this is going on, so
.Recordcount will be incorrect when this happens.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 3:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


Are you sure Susan? Here's my findings with a table of 6 records

Dim db As Database
Dim rst As Recordset

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("CONTACTS", dbOpenTable)
MsgBox rst.RecordCount

Gives an answer of 6

But

Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM CONTACTS")
MsgBox rst.RecordCount

Gives an answer of 1.

As does
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("CONTACTS", dbOpenDynaset)

If you then do

Set rst = db.OpenRecordset("SELECT * FROM CONTACTS")
If Not rst.EOF Then
  rst.MoveLast
  rst.MoveFirst
  MsgBox rst.RecordCount
End If

You get a reliable 6. (Note to folks, donn't do a Movelast without checking
EOF. If the table's empty the Movelast collapses). So I reckon Dynaset
recordtypes support RecordCount but do require the Movelast.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Susan Harkins
> Sent: 14 October 2004 17:19
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
>
>
> Some recordsets support the RecordCount property, some don't.
> Those that do don't require the move through the records to
> get a count. Just refer to the RecordCount property. Just
> wrote an article on it for Inside Microsoft Access -- should
> be out this winter sometime.
>
> Susan H.
>
> Mmmzzz don't wanna be fuzzy but one remark about the
> codesample though just in case others wanna use it... To use
> a recordcount if I remember well, you should always do a
> rs.movelast and a rs.movefirst first to populate the
> recordset and get a reliable recordcount.
>
>
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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Thu Oct 14 15:06:11 2004
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:06:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKGENGKIAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <OF50B491B1.C396878A-ON86256F2D.006E5B51-86256F2D.006E6DCA@usbank.com>

>   It's hit or miss depending on the size of the recordset.  If JET thinks
> it's going to take too long to fully populate it, it finishes the job in
the
> background.  Code starts executing again while this is going on, so
> .Recordcount will be incorrect when this happens.

Why not use something along the lines of?

Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rst As DAO.Recordset
Dim mysql as string

mysql = "SELECT"
mysql = mysql & " Count(CONTACTS.CONTACTKEY) AS RecordCount"
mysql = mysql & " FROM"
mysql = mysql & " CONTACTS;"

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset(mysql)
MsgBox rst.Fields("RecordCount")


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 14 15:08:43 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:08:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AD9@infoserver01.infostat.local>

No, I'm saying that it adjusts to whatever the current Windows system
setting is, the same way the default background of a form does.  That's
what that negative number indicates.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) [mailto:Developer at ultradnt.com]

Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Are you sayting if you copy/paste the numbers from Form bkgr to text box
back color,  it won't match the Windows background?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


It has the added benefit of keeping your buttons or whatever colored to
match the current background settings of Windows.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) [mailto:Developer at ultradnt.com]

Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Actually, Copy/Paste it from the Form Bkgr is even better, why try to
remember those 10 digits?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


You don't need a sticky note.  Just open any form in design view and
look at the color of the default background.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:liz at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color


Karen,

 -2147483633

(yes, this is on a sticky note on the side of my computer)

Liz

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Drab Gray Command Button Color

I am trying to make a raised text box the same color as the gray command
buttons; I am so close with a background color of 13490391.  Does anyone
have the exact color?  (Jeapordy trivia question de jour).  Thanks.

Karen Nicholson
National Laboratory
Xerox Global Services


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 14 15:27:46 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:27:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <OF50B491B1.C396878A-ON86256F2D.006E5B51-86256F2D.006E6DCA@usbank.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKEENIKIAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Sure that would work as your explicitly forcing JET to count all the
records.  But it would be faster if it was:

mysql = "SELECT"
mysql = mysql & " Count(*) AS RecordCount"
mysql = mysql & " FROM"
mysql = mysql & " CONTACTS;"

  JET will just get the count from the primary key index if there is one.

Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 4:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset


>   It's hit or miss depending on the size of the recordset.  If JET thinks
> it's going to take too long to fully populate it, it finishes the job in
the
> background.  Code starts executing again while this is going on, so
> .Recordcount will be incorrect when this happens.

Why not use something along the lines of?

Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rst As DAO.Recordset
Dim mysql as string

mysql = "SELECT"
mysql = mysql & " Count(CONTACTS.CONTACTKEY) AS RecordCount"
mysql = mysql & " FROM"
mysql = mysql & " CONTACTS;"

Set db = CurrentDb
Set rst = db.OpenRecordset(mysql)
MsgBox rst.Fields("RecordCount")


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Oct 14 16:15:28 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:15:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help with syntax please....OpenRecordset
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4b224$cdae5e60$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>
Message-ID: <20041014211533.FPCF2383.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Send me your private email and I'll send you a copy of the article. 

Susan H. 

Are you sure Susan? Here's my findings with a table of 6 records



From john at winhaven.net  Thu Oct 14 17:00:37 2004
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:00:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Net Op
Message-ID: <NGBBLIECOMAKBPEDMKEJKEBMIBAA.john@winhaven.net>

Anyone use Net Op for remote users?

John B.



From actebs at actebs.com.au  Fri Oct 15 00:33:13 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:33:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC3@starfleet.unknown.local>

Guys,
 
Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.
 
I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...
 
Any help greatly appreciated...
 
Vlad
 


From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 15 04:11:56 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:11:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC3@starfleet.unknown.local>
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC3@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <1157828677.20041015111156@cactus.dk>

Hi Vlad

Isn't an eval. version of FileMaker available?
If so, perhaps it can export the data for you.

/gustav


> Guys,
 
> Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
> client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
> and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
> installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
> into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.
 
> I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
> find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
> that that is value for money...
 
> Any help greatly appreciated...
 
> Vlad



From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Fri Oct 15 06:46:52 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (JMoss)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:46:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC3@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <OKEMICJGPJCMJCCHGNDEOEPMCOAA.jmoss111@bellsouth.net>

Vlad,

eBay has FileMaker Pro for under $50 with Buiy It Now. Isn't FM a FoxPro
format database? If that doesn't work, DataJunction has a 30 day trial
version, and it can handle 160+ file formats. DataJunction was purchased by
Pervasive last year and I think they changed the DJ name to Cosmos.
DataJunction.com was still working the last time I checked, it forwarded you
to the Pervasive web site.

Jim

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Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:33 AM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,

Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.

I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...

Any help greatly appreciated...

Vlad

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From jmoss111 at bellsouth.net  Fri Oct 15 06:56:45 2004
From: jmoss111 at bellsouth.net (JMoss)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:56:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
In-Reply-To: <OKEMICJGPJCMJCCHGNDEOEPMCOAA.jmoss111@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <OKEMICJGPJCMJCCHGNDEEEPNCOAA.jmoss111@bellsouth.net>

One last thing about DataJunction; if FileMaker isn't a listed supported
file format, it will still probably handle the data because it has a "file
sniffer" and can use the correct functionaly to read/write data.

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Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 6:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Vlad,

eBay has FileMaker Pro for under $50 with Buiy It Now. Isn't FM a FoxPro
format database? If that doesn't work, DataJunction has a 30 day trial
version, and it can handle 160+ file formats. DataJunction was purchased by
Pervasive last year and I think they changed the DJ name to Cosmos.
DataJunction.com was still working the last time I checked, it forwarded you
to the Pervasive web site.

Jim

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Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:33 AM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,

Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.

I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...

Any help greatly appreciated...

Vlad

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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Fri Oct 15 08:14:53 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:14:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738E4@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

This thread went around awhile back and I looked it up in the archives.  I
want to use the code that was suggested, but I don't know 1) how to call the
function or 2) if it will work in our situation.  Most of our users are on
Windows2000 but a couple are still on NT.  Does that make a difference.  Do
I need a login screen or can I just have the username entered into the table
(backend on a network drive) when the user opens the form or enters a new
record on the form.  And finally how do I call the function in the form?

 

I guess I could ask if anyone has a simple project log database already
developed that they wouldn't mind sharing.  Ours is really quite simple in
that all we want to keep track of is what projects staff members are working
on, requester, due dates, and a few other things.  

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 15 08:40:30 2004
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:40:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738E4@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
Message-ID: <20041015134030.88578.qmail@web20426.mail.yahoo.com>

Have you tried Environ("Username") ?
 
 
"Klos, Susan" <Susan.Klos at fldoe.org> wrote:
This thread went around awhile back and I looked it up in the archives. I
want to use the code that was suggested, but I don't know 1) how to call the
function or 2) if it will work in our situation. Most of our users are on
Windows2000 but a couple are still on NT. Does that make a difference. Do
I need a login screen or can I just have the username entered into the table
(backend on a network drive) when the user opens the form or enters a new
record on the form. And finally how do I call the function in the form?



I guess I could ask if anyone has a simple project log database already
developed that they wouldn't mind sharing. Ours is really quite simple in
that all we want to keep track of is what projects staff members are working
on, requester, due dates, and a few other things. 



Any help would be greatly appreciated.





Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708



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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Oct 15 09:00:36 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:00:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7C8@nprdex02.nns.com>

Susan,

I'm sending you a simple db (A2K, 208KB) that includes an automatic
login/exit form, modules for computer name and user name, and a usys table
that stores this information along with a date/time stamp.

Notes:
1. Requires a DAO reference.
2. Login info is tracked regardless of whether the user exits from the login
form or not.  I basically just use it as a scare tactic to keep honest
people honest.


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 9:15 AM
To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name


This thread went around awhile back and I looked it up in the archives.  I
want to use the code that was suggested, but I don't know 1) how to call the
function or 2) if it will work in our situation.  Most of our users are on
Windows2000 but a couple are still on NT.  Does that make a difference.  Do
I need a login screen or can I just have the username entered into the table
(backend on a network drive) when the user opens the form or enters a new
record on the form.  And finally how do I call the function in the form?

 

I guess I could ask if anyone has a simple project log database already
developed that they wouldn't mind sharing.  Ours is really quite simple in
that all we want to keep track of is what projects staff members are working
on, requester, due dates, and a few other things.  

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Oct 15 09:06:25 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:06:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7C8@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <20041015140627.QRXV2444.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Mark, what do you mean to keep people honest? Any way to relate the person
logged to something actually done in the database? 

Susan H. 

Susan,

I'm sending you a simple db (A2K, 208KB) that includes an automatic
login/exit form, modules for computer name and user name, and a usys table
that stores this information along with a date/time stamp.

Notes:
1. Requires a DAO reference.
2. Login info is tracked regardless of whether the user exits from the login
form or not.  I basically just use it as a scare tactic to keep honest
people honest.



From CMackin at quiznos.com  Fri Oct 15 09:10:15 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:10:15 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F00A@snowmass.quiznos.net>

I have down some work with FileMkaer Proc in recent history, it is the absolute worst "database" product I have ever seen, we refered to it as the "My First Database" product line.  You'll love it the first time you come across a "Date" field that contains string data or a "Number" field that contains string, no primary keys can be established in spite the ability to set fields to "unique".

Anyway, you can download a free ODBC driveer from FileMaker Pro's website, one key to rememeber when setting up an ODBC connection with it is that you MUST have the FileMaker Pro file open while you are connecting to it, otherwise the connection fails.

-Chris Mackin

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Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:33 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,
 
Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.
 
I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...
 
Any help greatly appreciated...
 
Vlad
 
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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Fri Oct 15 09:42:38 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:42:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7CA@nprdex02.nns.com>

No...I didn't implement a transaction history.  The login form just serves
as a gentle reminder that users are not anonymous and that problems can be
tracked down to the date/time and particular users who were logged in.  An
honest person therefore is more likely to approach me and let me know that
they just accidentally deleted 10,000 records...rather than let me track
down, confront and publicly implicate several potential suspects;)  ...at
least that's the plan;)  ...it's been working so far;)


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Get user name


Mark, what do you mean to keep people honest? Any way to relate the person
logged to something actually done in the database? 

Susan H. 

Susan,

I'm sending you a simple db (A2K, 208KB) that includes an automatic
login/exit form, modules for computer name and user name, and a usys table
that stores this information along with a date/time stamp.

Notes:
1. Requires a DAO reference.
2. Login info is tracked regardless of whether the user exits from the login
form or not.  I basically just use it as a scare tactic to keep honest
people honest.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Oct 15 09:54:04 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:54:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
In-Reply-To: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7CA@nprdex02.nns.com>
Message-ID: <20041015145414.JDXY2494.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I see. ;) 

Susan H. 

No...I didn't implement a transaction history.  The login form just serves
as a gentle reminder that users are not anonymous and that problems can be
tracked down to the date/time and particular users who were logged in.  An
honest person therefore is more likely to approach me and let me know that
they just accidentally deleted 10,000 records...rather than let me track
down, confront and publicly implicate several potential suspects;)  ...at
least that's the plan;)  ...it's been working so far;)



From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Fri Oct 15 10:01:34 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:01:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738E6@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

Lonnie, Thanks.  That worked perfectly.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Fri Oct 15 10:15:07 2004
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:15:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Totalling numbers from a multiple entries in two fi elds
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318805CED624@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Sorry Paul I am struggling to visualise your data. But I'll assume that
there is an entity that tblMain describes for which both Roots and Work are
attributes (such as a person)?

To get the number of people of each ethnicity for each job, you need to add
the fields to a totals query, grouping by firstly Work, then Roots, and then
counting the unique identifier for each person.

HTH

Roz

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Rodgers [mailto:Paul.Rogers at summitmedia.co.uk] 
Sent: 14 October 2004 11:50
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Totalling numbers from a multiple entries in two fields


tblMain has 7 ethnicity options in the one field [Roots]. Each of the
options involves 10 or so different jobs [Work].

I have to find the numbers for each of the Roots options for each job
[Work].

I tried with a number of queries which I pasted bodily into Word to make an
instant report. But  some strange results is the consequence. 

Be very pleased to hear how an expert would go about it. 

Cheers paul  





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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct 15 10:17:43 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:17:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ADC@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Good grief NO!  FoxPro is at least a decent relational database.
FileMaker is for idiots!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: JMoss [mailto:jmoss111 at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Vlad,

eBay has FileMaker Pro for under $50 with Buiy It Now. Isn't FM a FoxPro
format database? If that doesn't work, DataJunction has a 30 day trial
version, and it can handle 160+ file formats. DataJunction was purchased
by Pervasive last year and I think they changed the DJ name to Cosmos.
DataJunction.com was still working the last time I checked, it forwarded
you to the Pervasive web site.

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of ACTEBS
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:33 AM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,

Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.

I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...

Any help greatly appreciated...

Vlad

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct 15 10:19:13 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:19:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ADD@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Have them export the data from Filemaker and work with the export.  The
structure of FileMaker files is so bizarre and the data can be SO
strange, that's the only way I ever found to move data to Access.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:33 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,
 
Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.
 
I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...
 
Any help greatly appreciated...
 
Vlad
 
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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Fri Oct 15 10:28:00 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 01:28:00 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD50558332803855E@starfleet.unknown.local>

Chris,

I think the department are moving away from Filemaker exactly because of
the reasons you've stated. Also, they are having difficulty finding
someone who knows much about it. They also claim it's a bit of a slug,
but I can't comment as  haven't seen the app in action.

I went everywhere trying to find the odbc download on the filemaker
site, nowhere to be found. You wouldn't happen to have the actual link
to the download would you?

Thanx
Vlad

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mackin,
Christopher
Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2004 12:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


I have down some work with FileMkaer Proc in recent history, it is the
absolute worst "database" product I have ever seen, we refered to it as
the "My First Database" product line.  You'll love it the first time you
come across a "Date" field that contains string data or a "Number" field
that contains string, no primary keys can be established in spite the
ability to set fields to "unique".

Anyway, you can download a free ODBC driveer from FileMaker Pro's
website, one key to rememeber when setting up an ODBC connection with it
is that you MUST have the FileMaker Pro file open while you are
connecting to it, otherwise the connection fails.

-Chris Mackin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of ACTEBS
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:33 PM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,
 
Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.
 
I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...
 
Any help greatly appreciated...
 
Vlad
 
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Oct 15 10:30:43 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:30:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407AC@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Tell us what you really think, Charlotte!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Good grief NO!  FoxPro is at least a decent relational database.
FileMaker is for idiots!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: JMoss [mailto:jmoss111 at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Vlad,

eBay has FileMaker Pro for under $50 with Buiy It Now. Isn't FM a FoxPro
format database? If that doesn't work, DataJunction has a 30 day trial
version, and it can handle 160+ file formats. DataJunction was purchased
by Pervasive last year and I think they changed the DJ name to Cosmos.
DataJunction.com was still working the last time I checked, it forwarded
you to the Pervasive web site.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of ACTEBS
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:33 AM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,

Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.

I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...

Any help greatly appreciated...

Vlad

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From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Fri Oct 15 10:36:10 2004
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:36:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] RE: A2k2 doCmd.RunSQL won't run my SQL...
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188064331E1@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi guys

First post from a VB / ASP developer who's been left in charge of an Access
mod...  sorry to kick off by begging for help ;-)

I am trying to programatically link to an SQL v7 table from my Access DB,
the source table sits on a networked SQL Server box.  I'm using ADOX etc. to
bring the table in.  Everything goes fine until I try and index the table
with an SQL CREATE INDEX statement, executed using the DoCmd.RunSQL method.
It just doesn't work - it fails silently.

If I take the contents of the string variable from the immediate window and
paste it into a query, it runs fine and indexes my table.

It's driving me to distraction...  any help would be greatly appreciated,
many thanks in advance.

Tom Bolton
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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Fri Oct 15 11:16:51 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:16:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F501E25AE1@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>

Because it's Friday I'll second that!!!

Thankfully I've never had to do anything with Filemaker, but my poor
wife has to use it daily to run the box office at a small theatre.  I
don't know if the developer of the app was simply incompetent (as I
suspect) or if it's the best that can be done within the limits of the
program (gawd, I hope not!), but she (and she is NO kind of developer -
barely considers herself a user!) has to perform MODS ON THE INTERFACE
just to allow the thing to accommodate normal business realities
(increase ticket prices, extensions of performance runs, scheduling the
run of the next show, etc.)  It's either that or pay the "developer" by
the hour to do it.  I mean, literally, stuff that could easily be
handled by adding a few records to a table (in a well-designed db)
require a virtual re-design of the db and interface.  And this piece of
crap is being used to manage the lifeblood of the org.  I have looked
under the hood of it a bit, and even tried my hand at designing
something with Filemaker, to see if I might be of some help to her.
Made me run away screaming.  

GAWD!!!  Don't get me started. I gotta go.

Don McGillivray

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 8:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Good grief NO!  FoxPro is at least a decent relational database.
FileMaker is for idiots!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: JMoss [mailto:jmoss111 at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 4:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Vlad,

eBay has FileMaker Pro for under $50 with Buiy It Now. Isn't FM a FoxPro
format database? If that doesn't work, DataJunction has a 30 day trial
version, and it can handle 160+ file formats. DataJunction was purchased
by Pervasive last year and I think they changed the DJ name to Cosmos.
DataJunction.com was still working the last time I checked, it forwarded
you to the Pervasive web site.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of ACTEBS
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:33 AM
To: access group
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


Guys,

Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.

I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
that that is value for money...

Any help greatly appreciated...

Vlad

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From chizotz at mchsi.com  Fri Oct 15 12:05:10 2004
From: chizotz at mchsi.com (chizotz at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:05:10 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
Message-ID: <101520041705.3631.4bd4@mchsi.com>

Heh. Here's a story for a Friday... not entirely off topic...

I once put a function into a backend .mdb that checked the logon name of the 
user, and if it wasn't me it put up a bright red screen with yellow letters 
that said something like, "Unauthorized Intrusion Detected. You have attempted 
to open a database for which you are not authorized. We know who you are and 
where you are sitting. Please remain calm and in your seat, security will be 
coming for you shortly."

It was a slow day and I was bored (kind of like right now, actually!) and 
didn't expect anything to ever come of it, or anyone to ever see it besides me.

Weeks passed and I forgot about it. Then one day one of the office busybody 
idiots who thought he knew something about databases came rushing over to me 
all upset because "they" were coming for him and he didn't know what he should 
do... my, that was fun, and I had some fun with him for awhile, too, before 
I "covered his tracks for him". <lol> and for weeks after I would periodically 
remind him that he owed me a favor too. As far as I know, he never poked his 
nose into any of my databases again :)

Ron

> I basically just use it as a scare tactic to keep honest
> people honest.


From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 15 12:19:41 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:19:41 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
In-Reply-To: <101520041705.3631.4bd4@mchsi.com>
References: <101520041705.3631.4bd4@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <8637093006.20041015191941@cactus.dk>

Hi Ron

Nice!
But how did you expect to ever see that screen again?

/gustav


> Heh. Here's a story for a Friday... not entirely off topic...

> I once put a function into a backend .mdb that checked the logon name of the 
> user, and if it wasn't me it put up a bright red screen with yellow letters 
> that said something like, "Unauthorized Intrusion Detected. You have attempted 
> to open a database for which you are not authorized. We know who you are and 
> where you are sitting. Please remain calm and in your seat, security will be 
> coming for you shortly."

> It was a slow day and I was bored (kind of like right now, actually!) and 
> didn't expect anything to ever come of it, or anyone to ever see it besides me.

> Weeks passed and I forgot about it. Then one day one of the office busybody 
> idiots who thought he knew something about databases came rushing over to me 
> all upset because "they" were coming for him and he didn't know what he should 
> do... my, that was fun, and I had some fun with him for awhile, too, before 
> I "covered his tracks for him". <lol> and for weeks after I would periodically 
> remind him that he owed me a favor too. As far as I know, he never poked his 
> nose into any of my databases again :)

> Ron

>> I basically just use it as a scare tactic to keep honest
>> people honest.



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct 15 13:02:15 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:02:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ADE@infoserver01.infostat.local>

ROTFLMAO!  I did something like that once too. 

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: chizotz at mchsi.com [mailto:chizotz at mchsi.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Get user name


Heh. Here's a story for a Friday... not entirely off topic...

I once put a function into a backend .mdb that checked the logon name of
the 
user, and if it wasn't me it put up a bright red screen with yellow
letters 
that said something like, "Unauthorized Intrusion Detected. You have
attempted 
to open a database for which you are not authorized. We know who you are
and 
where you are sitting. Please remain calm and in your seat, security
will be 
coming for you shortly."

It was a slow day and I was bored (kind of like right now, actually!)
and 
didn't expect anything to ever come of it, or anyone to ever see it
besides me.

Weeks passed and I forgot about it. Then one day one of the office
busybody 
idiots who thought he knew something about databases came rushing over
to me 
all upset because "they" were coming for him and he didn't know what he
should 
do... my, that was fun, and I had some fun with him for awhile, too,
before 
I "covered his tracks for him". <lol> and for weeks after I would
periodically 
remind him that he owed me a favor too. As far as I know, he never poked
his 
nose into any of my databases again :)

Ron

> I basically just use it as a scare tactic to keep honest people 
> honest.
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct 15 13:02:47 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:02:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Get user name
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312ADF@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Log in as Admin, of course!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Get user name


Hi Ron

Nice!
But how did you expect to ever see that screen again?

/gustav


> Heh. Here's a story for a Friday... not entirely off topic...

> I once put a function into a backend .mdb that checked the logon name 
> of the
> user, and if it wasn't me it put up a bright red screen with yellow
letters 
> that said something like, "Unauthorized Intrusion Detected. You have
attempted 
> to open a database for which you are not authorized. We know who you
are and 
> where you are sitting. Please remain calm and in your seat, security
will be 
> coming for you shortly."

> It was a slow day and I was bored (kind of like right now, actually!) 
> and
> didn't expect anything to ever come of it, or anyone to ever see it
besides me.

> Weeks passed and I forgot about it. Then one day one of the office 
> busybody
> idiots who thought he knew something about databases came rushing over
to me 
> all upset because "they" were coming for him and he didn't know what
he should 
> do... my, that was fun, and I had some fun with him for awhile, too,
before 
> I "covered his tracks for him". <lol> and for weeks after I would
periodically 
> remind him that he owed me a favor too. As far as I know, he never
poked his 
> nose into any of my databases again :)

> Ron

>> I basically just use it as a scare tactic to keep honest people 
>> honest.

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From fahooper at trapo.com  Fri Oct 15 13:38:18 2004
From: fahooper at trapo.com (Fred Hooper)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:38:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: A2k2 doCmd.RunSQL won't run my SQL...
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188064331E1@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <003901c4b2e6$23fa87a0$f0bffea9@fred>

Hi Tom,

Two thoughts:
(1) Your permissions may be different in your two methods of executing the
SQL depending on how SQL Server is set up.
(2) I haven't tried to use DoCmd.RunSQL for indexing SQL Server. However,
I've successfully used an ADO cmd for indexing. Unfortunately, I no longer
have the code for an example.

Hope this helps,
Fred Hooper

|-----Original Message-----
|From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
|[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tom Bolton
|Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:36 AM
|To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
|Subject: [AccessD] RE: A2k2 doCmd.RunSQL won't run my SQL...
|
|
|Hi guys
|
|First post from a VB / ASP developer who's been left in charge 
|of an Access mod...  sorry to kick off by begging for help ;-)
|
|I am trying to programatically link to an SQL v7 table from my 
|Access DB, the source table sits on a networked SQL Server 
|box.  I'm using ADOX etc. to bring the table in.  Everything 
|goes fine until I try and index the table with an SQL CREATE 
|INDEX statement, executed using the DoCmd.RunSQL method. It 
|just doesn't work - it fails silently.
|
|If I take the contents of the string variable from the 
|immediate window and paste it into a query, it runs fine and 
|indexes my table.
|
|It's driving me to distraction...  any help would be greatly 
|appreciated, many thanks in advance.
|
|Tom Bolton
|



From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Fri Oct 15 14:39:17 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:39:17 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
Message-ID: <212300-2200410515193917188@christopherhawkins.com>

Hello, all.  

I have a client who is constantly tinkering with his home-grown
Access solution and is constantly rolling out updates (against my
advice, of course).

I was about to set him up with a simple batch file that just uses
COPY [origin] [destination]  to copy  the latest version of the .mdb
from a folder on the server to a user's machine.  But before I do, I
want to know if it is possible to get a little fancier.  

I would like the batch file to a) compare the filename on the user's
machine to the filename on the server, and then b) do the copy if the
names are different, or c) NOT do the copy if the names are the same
(my client likes to put the version number in the filename).

Is this too much to ask of the humble batch file?


-Christopher-

P.S. 
And for those of you who wonder why I don't use a vbscript file, this
client swaps eMachines and other budget boxes in and out of his
business based on what's on sale at Costco that week (again, against
my advice).  I can't be sure that new boxes he brings in will have
WSH or any of the complementary components installed on the
bastardized version of WinXP that ships with a lot of thses crap
boxes.  But I know that batch files work on everything from Win95 up.
;)
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Oct 15 15:05:32 2004
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:05:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485636@natexch.jenkens.com>

There is a front end updater on John Colby's site that I use extensively.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:39 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?


Hello, all.  

I have a client who is constantly tinkering with his home-grown
Access solution and is constantly rolling out updates (against my
advice, of course).

I was about to set him up with a simple batch file that just uses
COPY [origin] [destination]  to copy  the latest version of the .mdb
from a folder on the server to a user's machine.  But before I do, I
want to know if it is possible to get a little fancier.  

I would like the batch file to a) compare the filename on the user's
machine to the filename on the server, and then b) do the copy if the
names are different, or c) NOT do the copy if the names are the same
(my client likes to put the version number in the filename).

Is this too much to ask of the humble batch file?


-Christopher-

P.S. 
And for those of you who wonder why I don't use a vbscript file, this
client swaps eMachines and other budget boxes in and out of his
business based on what's on sale at Costco that week (again, against
my advice).  I can't be sure that new boxes he brings in will have
WSH or any of the complementary components installed on the
bastardized version of WinXP that ships with a lot of thses crap
boxes.  But I know that batch files work on everything from Win95 up.
;)
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk  Fri Oct 15 15:18:12 2004
From: spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk (Chris Foote (Spike))
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:18:12 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
In-Reply-To: <212300-2200410515193917188@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <NBBBJDKBBONNJNBIILLHKEEODLAA.spikee@oatlandspark.org.uk>

Hi Christopher!

I have a batch file at work doing just the job you are after.

If you can wait 'til Monday I'll send it to you then.

Regards!
Chris Foote


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: 15 October 2004 20:39
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?


Hello, all.

I have a client who is constantly tinkering with his home-grown
Access solution and is constantly rolling out updates (against my
advice, of course).

I was about to set him up with a simple batch file that just uses
COPY [origin] [destination]  to copy  the latest version of the .mdb
from a folder on the server to a user's machine.  But before I do, I
want to know if it is possible to get a little fancier.

I would like the batch file to a) compare the filename on the user's
machine to the filename on the server, and then b) do the copy if the
names are different, or c) NOT do the copy if the names are the same
(my client likes to put the version number in the filename).

Is this too much to ask of the humble batch file?


-Christopher-

P.S.
And for those of you who wonder why I don't use a vbscript file, this
client swaps eMachines and other budget boxes in and out of his
business based on what's on sale at Costco that week (again, against
my advice).  I can't be sure that new boxes he brings in will have
WSH or any of the complementary components installed on the
bastardized version of WinXP that ships with a lot of thses crap
boxes.  But I know that batch files work on everything from Win95 up.
;)
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Fri Oct 15 21:44:16 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:44:16 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
Message-ID: <258430-220041061624416355@christopherhawkins.com>

Awesome.  I'l keep an eye out.

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:18:12 +0100

>Hi Christopher!
>
>I have a batch file at work doing just the job you are after.
>
>If you can wait 'til Monday I'll send it to you then.
>
>Regards!
>Chris Foote
>
>
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
>Hawkins
>Sent: 15 October 2004 20:39
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
>
>
>Hello, all.
>
>I have a client who is constantly tinkering with his home-grown
>Access solution and is constantly rolling out updates (against my
>advice, of course).
>
>I was about to set him up with a simple batch file that just uses
>COPY [origin] [destination]  to copy  the latest version of the .mdb
>from a folder on the server to a user's machine.  But before I do, I
>want to know if it is possible to get a little fancier.
>
>I would like the batch file to a) compare the filename on the user's
>machine to the filename on the server, and then b) do the copy if the
>names are different, or c) NOT do the copy if the names are the same
>(my client likes to put the version number in the filename).
>
>Is this too much to ask of the humble batch file?
>
>
>-Christopher-
>
>P.S.
>And for those of you who wonder why I don't use a vbscript file, this
>client swaps eMachines and other budget boxes in and out of his
>business based on what's on sale at Costco that week (again, against
>my advice).  I can't be sure that new boxes he brings in will have
>WSH or any of the complementary components installed on the
>bastardized version of WinXP that ships with a lot of thses crap
>boxes.  But I know that batch files work on everything from Win95 up.
>;)
>Respectfully,
>
>Christopher Hawkins
>Software Developer
>(559) 687-7591
>http://www.christopherhawkins.com
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 15 22:59:36 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:59:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC3@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <41709CA8.2020109@shaw.ca>

On the filemaker site there are methods to export files to an xml 
spreadsheet Excel 2002 or 2003
Then just export to Access. May not work for your version of FileMaker tho.
http://www.filemaker.com/technologies/xslt_library.html

ACTEBS wrote:

>Guys,
> 
>Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
>client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
>and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
>installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
>into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.
> 
>I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
>find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
>that that is value for money...
> 
>Any help greatly appreciated...
> 
>Vlad
> 
>  
>

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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Sat Oct 16 09:56:42 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 10:56:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
In-Reply-To: <258430-220041061624416355@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <001901c4b390$59e37d40$0200a8c0@COA3>

If you are working on the weekend, your basic need here is the IF
command, using the EXIST parameter ... IF also can use NOT and ELSE.
And, DOS Batches need GOTO for most branching.  Type IF /? At the cmd
line for detail. A typical check if the application is on the hard drive
would go something like this:

IF NOT EXIST C:\FOLDER\SOME.MDB XCOPY \\SERVER\SHARE\SOME.MDB C:\FOLDER 

Hth
Steve



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
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Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:44 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?


Awesome.  I'l keep an eye out.

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:18:12 +0100

>Hi Christopher!
>
>I have a batch file at work doing just the job you are after.
>
>If you can wait 'til Monday I'll send it to you then.
>
>Regards!
>Chris Foote
>
>
><All outgoing e-mail messages are swept for malware using Norton
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher 
>Hawkins
>Sent: 15 October 2004 20:39
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
>
>
>Hello, all.
>
>I have a client who is constantly tinkering with his home-grown Access 
>solution and is constantly rolling out updates (against my advice, of 
>course).
>
>I was about to set him up with a simple batch file that just uses COPY 
>[origin] [destination]  to copy  the latest version of the .mdb from a 
>folder on the server to a user's machine.  But before I do, I want to 
>know if it is possible to get a little fancier.
>
>I would like the batch file to a) compare the filename on the user's 
>machine to the filename on the server, and then b) do the copy if the 
>names are different, or c) NOT do the copy if the names are the same 
>(my client likes to put the version number in the filename).
>
>Is this too much to ask of the humble batch file?
>
>
>-Christopher-
>
>P.S.
>And for those of you who wonder why I don't use a vbscript file, this 
>client swaps eMachines and other budget boxes in and out of his 
>business based on what's on sale at Costco that week (again, against my

>advice).  I can't be sure that new boxes he brings in will have WSH or 
>any of the complementary components installed on the bastardized 
>version of WinXP that ships with a lot of thses crap boxes.  But I know

>that batch files work on everything from Win95 up.
>;)
>Respectfully,
>
>Christopher Hawkins
>Software Developer
>(559) 687-7591
>http://www.christopherhawkins.com
>
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Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Sat Oct 16 11:24:04 2004
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:24:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
In-Reply-To: <212300-2200410515193917188@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKADGELICHEJJCKGKMEAOKJAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

I recommend my clients against as it's too easy to end up using an old
version of something.

Here's the setup I use:

1. Each FE has a table called tblAppVersionControl.  One record is entered
per release and has the version number, developer comments, user comments,
and release date.

2. Up on the server, I create the following structure.

  X:\Custom
        \<Database Name>
            <database>.MDB
            Upd_database.Bat
            \Backup

3. In the front end is also a link to tblAppVersionControl in the copy
stored on the server.  At app startup, a version check is made between the
two tables.  If a difference exists, the user comments are displayed and the
user is told they need to update.  The update is the execution of the batch
file.  They only need to execute the batch file directly for the initial
setup.  After that it's accessed via a shortcut.

4. The batch file copies down a new front end, any supporting files (help,
icons, DLLs, etc), and registers any DLLs or type libs.  It also calls a VB
program I wrote to create any required DSN's and shortcuts.


The development cycle is:
  1. Copy MDB to development machine
  2. Make changes.
  3. Update app version control table.
  4. Save current version in \..\backup.  Rename to <database>.version
  4. Copy new version to server.

 Below is one of the batch files.

HTH,
Jim Dettman
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

@ECHO.
@ECHO.
@ECHO Checking for application directories...
@ECHO.
%HOMEDRIVE%
CD\
if not exist "%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files" mkdir "%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files"
if not exist "%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files\Traverse Custom" mkdir
"%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files\Traverse Custom"
@ECHO.
@ECHO.
@ECHO Copying application files...
@ECHO.
COPY "P:\Traverse Custom\EDITrafficMonitor\EDITrafficMonitor.MDE"
"%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files\Traverse Custom"
COPY "P:\Traverse Custom\EDITrafficMonitor\EDITrafficMonitor.ICO"
"%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files\Traverse Custom"
COPY "P:\Traverse Custom\Update.ico" "%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files\Traverse
Custom"
COPY "P:\Traverse Custom\vbSendMail.dll" "%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files\Traverse
Custom"
@ECHO.
@ECHO.
@ECHO Setting up environment...
@ECHO.
"P:\Traverse Custom\SetClientEnv.EXE" EDITrafficMonitor %HOMEDRIVE%
"C:\Windows\System32\Regsvr32.exe" "%HOMEDRIVE%\Program Files\Traverse
Custom\vbSendMail.dll" /s



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:39 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?


Hello, all.

I have a client who is constantly tinkering with his home-grown
Access solution and is constantly rolling out updates (against my
advice, of course).

I was about to set him up with a simple batch file that just uses
COPY [origin] [destination]  to copy  the latest version of the .mdb
from a folder on the server to a user's machine.  But before I do, I
want to know if it is possible to get a little fancier.

I would like the batch file to a) compare the filename on the user's
machine to the filename on the server, and then b) do the copy if the
names are different, or c) NOT do the copy if the names are the same
(my client likes to put the version number in the filename).

Is this too much to ask of the humble batch file?


-Christopher-

P.S.
And for those of you who wonder why I don't use a vbscript file, this
client swaps eMachines and other budget boxes in and out of his
business based on what's on sale at Costco that week (again, against
my advice).  I can't be sure that new boxes he brings in will have
WSH or any of the complementary components installed on the
bastardized version of WinXP that ships with a lot of thses crap
boxes.  But I know that batch files work on everything from Win95 up.
;)
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Oct 16 16:07:21 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:07:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
Message-ID: <20041016210746.LLTU2383.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I've got some SQL code that compares two tables and reports on records that
aren't in both tables. I did a bit of checking to be sure, but I can't find
any built-in Access feature that does this -- anyone know of a wizard or
something that I might have missed? I'd hate to recommend something that's
not necessary. 
 
Susan H. 


From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Sat Oct 16 20:29:00 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:29:00 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29088915@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

Can't the 'Find Unmatched Query Wizard' do that?

Stephen Bond

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Sunday, 17 October 2004 10:07 a.m.
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
> 
> 
> I've got some SQL code that compares two tables and reports 
> on records that
> aren't in both tables. I did a bit of checking to be sure, 
> but I can't find
> any built-in Access feature that does this -- anyone know of 
> a wizard or
> something that I might have missed? I'd hate to recommend 
> something that's
> not necessary. 
>  
> Susan H. 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Oct 16 20:59:19 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:59:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
In-Reply-To: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29088915@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20041017015920.RYYL2403.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Hmmmmmm... I thought about that one, but haven't gotten the exact results I
was after -- will look at it again. 

Susan H. 

Can't the 'Find Unmatched Query Wizard' do that?




From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Sat Oct 16 22:06:25 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:06:25 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F298FD0@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

The restriction on this wizard is that it allows only one left join at the wizard stage.  If there are a number of fields I want to compare in 2 tables, I manually insert/delete left joins in the Design View after the wiz has done its stuff..

Stephen Bond

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Sunday, 17 October 2004 2:59 p.m.
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] comparing tables
> 
> 
> Hmmmmmm... I thought about that one, but haven't gotten the 
> exact results I
> was after -- will look at it again. 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> Can't the 'Find Unmatched Query Wizard' do that?
> 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Oct 17 09:27:55 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:27:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
In-Reply-To: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F298FD0@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>
Message-ID: <20041017142755.WTUT2403.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

OK, I thought I had run across that before myself, but it's been so long ago
-- I'll play around with it. Thanks!

Susan H. 

The restriction on this wizard is that it allows only one left join at the
wizard stage.  If there are a number of fields I want to compare in 2
tables, I manually insert/delete left joins in the Design View after the wiz
has done its stuff..




From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Oct 17 09:56:00 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:56:00 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Query a text file without attach or import
In-Reply-To: <14835902294.20041014190208@cactus.dk>
References: <14835902294.20041014190208@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <3925901123.20041017165600@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Forgot to note that the use of an alias for the table is beneficial or
even mandatory. 

Note that the first syntax can be modified to:

  SELECT
    NameOfField1,
    NameOfField2
  FROM
    [pics#txt] AS T IN '' [Text;DATABASE=c:\windows\temp;];

In the second syntax the trick is the brackets which force accept of
filenames or foldernames containing spaces.

This should be changed to:

  SELECT
    NameOfFiels1,
    NameOfField2
  FROM
    [Text;DATABASE=c:\windows\temp;HDR=YES].[pics.txt] AS T;

as Access otherwise my remodel the syntax into invalid syntax.

/gustav


> Hi all

> Should you ever need it, you can query a text file directly without
> importing or attaching it first. The trich is to understand that
> Access regards the directory of the text file as a "database":

>   SELECT
>     [pics#txt].Field1,
>     [pics#txt].Field2
>   FROM
>     [pics#txt] IN '' [Text;DATABASE=c:\windows\temp;];

> or:

>   SELECT
>     Field1,
>     Field2
>   FROM
>     [Text;DATABASE=c:\windows\temp;HDR=YES].[pics.txt];


> I should note that - as to my testings - even if you specify HDR=NO,
> Access still reads the first line for the column names.

> These syntax are very handy when you need to read temporary text files
> where you do not wish to attach these at all.



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Oct 17 11:43:28 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:43:28 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Re: [dba-Tech] Alternate PDF writing solution
In-Reply-To: <4171438F.6040204@rogers.com>
References: <001801c4b2c3$ae4dfd10$e8dafea9@ColbyM6805>
	<4171438F.6040204@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <6032348975.20041017184328@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

Any fool can buy Distiller but many clients find it pretty expensive.
We use the German FreePDF which is absolutely free:

  http://freepdfxp.de/fpxp.htm

It has the advantage of using the Apple PS driver as well as
Ghostscript which ensures a high level of compatibility. Some time ago
we did some testing with the alternatives and found all sort of
troubles from using wrong fonts, margin offsets, wrong paper format,
and other things. Some issues are only present for complicated docs.

Be sure to download the "Administration Manual" as well as the
resource kit (some VBA code examples) and the Multidocument Printer
option. 
There is no API but you can control it by registry settings and
command line parameters.

Installation is not that difficult. Batch files are included for
silent install on user's station as well as Terminal Server.

/gustav


> Date: 2004-10-16 17:51

> As some of you may know from previous messages, when the subject of PDF 
> and Email came up, I recommended PDFMail, a class library from Attac 
> Consulting. Recently I encountered significantly different behaviour 
> when using Acrobat 6 as opposed to 5; which behaviour the client deems 
> unacceptable. So I inquired about the costs of upgrading and was 
> dismayed to learn that the Pro package I had bought for $199 now goes 
for >> $500, and the upgrade is more than I paid in the first place.

> So now I'm looking for an alternative. At a minimum, it must:
> a) support creation of a PDF from any given Access report;
> b) support, with a minimum of fuss, emaling said PDF to any specified 
> recipient, and ideally setting up mail subject and body with a minimum 
> of fuss;
> c) support the merging or amalgamation of several reports into a single PDF.

> Attac's PDFMail does all this, and works flawlessly with Acrobat 5, but 
> without the upgrade there are issues if Acrobat 6 is installed rather 
> than 5.

> In case it helps, in the app of concern I print several documents -- an 
> invoice, a hotel confirmation, a ticket to a party, etc. All these 
> documents are based on the invoice selected when you hit PrintAndEmail. 
> The reason we went PDF in the first place is that conversion to RTF etc. 
> failed to reproduce the documents exactly as they were.

> To phrase this last part in another way, PDF reproduces the color logos 
> etc., which are a big part of the sizzle, flawlessly. But PDF itself is 
> not a mandatory part of the spec -- flawless reproduction IS. If there 
> is another way to go, I'm interested, the more so if this way is free or 
> cheap. The client is extremely reluctant to spring the $500 + that Attac 
> wants for the upgrade.

> Any alternatives come to mind? I don't want to have to install 5 pieces 
> of software on each client machine, nor cause the users to do anything 
> more than click on one button. After that everything should simply "happen".

> TIA,
> Arthur
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Oct 17 18:03:58 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:03:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules
Message-ID: <000001c4b49d$95f23480$de1811d8@danwaters>

Has anyone tried this?

 

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCompileAllModules

 

I wanted to use it to detect any compile errors before shutting down my
development database.  I tested with a misspelled keyword (DoCmd.Close
acformX, "frmMyForm"), and this was not detected by the compile command.  Of
course if I click the compile button it is detected.

 

Should this work as I'm expecting?

 

Dan Waters

ProMation Systems, Inc.



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Oct 18 01:29:58 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:29:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules
References: <000001c4b49d$95f23480$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <417362E6.5010400@shaw.ca>

You could try these
http://www.access.vis.pl/af0424a.htm

My Polish is lousy.
NB.  IMPORTANT  These undocumented commands should only be attempted by 
fully qualified stunt driver.

    ' Call a hidden SysCmd to automatically compile/save all modules.
         Call SysCmd(504, 16483)

or you could also try Application.IsCompiled   I have heard this maynot 
work in cases where you don't
have full permissions to all objects in the database.Linked tables maybe?

Polish List

SysCmd(7) 'Detects the Access VERSION number

For Access 97:

SysCmd 603, PathMdb, PathMde 'convert MDB -> MDE
SysCmd 602, PathMdb, PathMdb 'compact DB
SysCmd 555 'create MSysIMEX... tables
SysCmd(504, 16483) 'save and compile code
SysCmd(504, 16484) 'save code without compiling
SysCmd(501, i) 'list of references, i = 0, 1, ... n
SysCmd(500) 'count of references

For Access 2000+:

SysCmd 603, PathMdb, PathMde 'convert MDB -> MDE
SysCmd 602, PathMdb, PathMdb 'compact DB
'You must use in this case following method, example:
    Dim accApp As Access.Application
    Set accApp = New Access.Application
    accApp.SysCmd 603, PathMdb, PathMde
    accApp.SysCmd 602, PathMdb, PathMdb
    Set accApp = Nothing
SysCmd(605, 0) 'convert DB to previous version
SysCmd(605, "C:\Database97.mdb") 'convert DB to previous version
SysCmd(607,"C:\Project1.adp") 'convert DB to ADP project
SysCmd(608, i) '60 tips about Access programming for i=0, 1, ... 60
SysCmd(710, 68486165) 'set Polish keyboard (if installed)
SysCmd(710, 67699721) 'set US keyboard
SysCmd(710, 68748313) 'set Russian keyboard
SysCmd(710, 67634184) 'set Greek keyboard
SysCmd(710, ...) 'set other country keyboard
SysCmd(710,1) 'set next installed keyboard
SysCmd(710,0) 'set previous installed keyboard
SysCmd(711) 'return put keyboard currently
SysCmd(714) 'returns TRUE, if any form, report, macro or module is in design
mode
SysCmd(715) 'returns Build number of MSACCESS.EXE file to check Access
version or e.g. which Service Pack is installed.



Dan Waters wrote:

>Has anyone tried this?
>
> 
>
>DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCompileAllModules
>
> 
>
>I wanted to use it to detect any compile errors before shutting down my
>development database.  I tested with a misspelled keyword (DoCmd.Close
>acformX, "frmMyForm"), and this was not detected by the compile command.  Of
>course if I click the compile button it is detected.
>
> 
>
>Should this work as I'm expecting?
>
> 
>
>Dan Waters
>
>ProMation Systems, Inc.
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Oct 18 04:02:27 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:02:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules
In-Reply-To: <000001c4b49d$95f23480$de1811d8@danwaters>
References: <000001c4b49d$95f23480$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <776632176.20041018110227@cactus.dk>

Hi Dan

> Has anyone tried this?

> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCompileAllModules

> I wanted to use it to detect any compile errors before shutting down my
> development database.  I tested with a misspelled keyword (DoCmd.Close
> acformX, "frmMyForm"), and this was not detected by the compile command.  Of
> course if I click the compile button it is detected.

> Should this work as I'm expecting?

Perhaps, but it doesn't - because you can't ask the code to compile
itself.

You have to run this command from a macro.
We had a long thread on this and references. Look up in the archives:

  "Broken References in Runtime AXP and A97. Solved!"

from 2003-07-23.

The macro is there shown converted to VBA code.
However, Marty learned us how to save and load objects as text, so
here goes:

  Application.LoadFromText acMacro, "AutoExec", "autoexec.txt"

and here is the text to save as autoexec.txt:

<snip>

Version = 131074
ColumnsShown = 3
Begin
    Action ="Echo"
    Argument ="0"
End
Begin
    Condition ="CheckReferences()=False"
    Action ="RunCode"
    Argument ="VerifyReferences(True)"
End
Begin
    Condition ="..."
    Action ="OpenModule"
    Argument ="USysReferencesCheck"
End
Begin
    Condition ="..."
    Action ="RunCommand"
    Argument ="126"
End
Begin
    Condition ="..."
    Action ="Close"
    Argument ="-1"
    Argument =""
    Argument ="0"
End
Begin
    Action ="Echo"
    Argument ="-1"
End

</snip>

/gustav



From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Mon Oct 18 07:26:31 2004
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:26:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] RE: A2k2 doCmd.RunSQL won't run my SQL...
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188064331E6@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Fred 

I think you may be on to something with the permissions, I'll look into it.

Many thanks!
Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Hooper [mailto:fahooper at trapo.com] 
Sent: 15 October 2004 19:38
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: A2k2 doCmd.RunSQL won't run my SQL...

Hi Tom,

Two thoughts:
(1) Your permissions may be different in your two methods of executing the
SQL depending on how SQL Server is set up.
(2) I haven't tried to use DoCmd.RunSQL for indexing SQL Server. However,
I've successfully used an ADO cmd for indexing. Unfortunately, I no longer
have the code for an example.

Hope this helps,
Fred Hooper

|-----Original Message-----
|From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
|[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tom Bolton
|Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 11:36 AM
|To: 'accessd at databaseadvisors.com'
|Subject: [AccessD] RE: A2k2 doCmd.RunSQL won't run my SQL...
|
|
|Hi guys
|
|First post from a VB / ASP developer who's been left in charge 
|of an Access mod...  sorry to kick off by begging for help ;-)
|
|I am trying to programatically link to an SQL v7 table from my 
|Access DB, the source table sits on a networked SQL Server 
|box.  I'm using ADOX etc. to bring the table in.  Everything 
|goes fine until I try and index the table with an SQL CREATE 
|INDEX statement, executed using the DoCmd.RunSQL method. It 
|just doesn't work - it fails silently.
|
|If I take the contents of the string variable from the 
|immediate window and paste it into a query, it runs fine and 
|indexes my table.
|
|It's driving me to distraction...  any help would be greatly 
|appreciated, many thanks in advance.
|
|Tom Bolton
|

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Oct 18 09:53:04 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:53:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules - Solved!
In-Reply-To: <31324646.1098081390720.JavaMail.root@sniper5.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c4b522$2cd468d0$de1811d8@danwaters>

Gustav & Marty,

 

I put this code in the Click event of the system Exit button:

 

If CurrentPCName = "DanWaters" Then

    '-- Try to compile the VBA code.  If it doesn't compile, stop system

        shutdown. _

        Note: If VBA code can't be compiled, no error is raised.  But,

                  Application.IsCompiled will still be False. _

              If VBA code can be compiled, then it will be compiled and 

                  Application.IsCompiled will then be True.

    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCompileAllModules

    If Application.IsCompiled = False Then

        FormattedMsgBox GstgNotReady, "The database could not compile!@ @",

            vbExclamation + vbOKOnly, "Not Compiled"

        Exit Sub

    End If

End If

 

The function CurrentPCName is my function which uses the API
GetComputerName.

 

It turns out that acCmdCompileAllModules really does compile code in the
current database.

 

 

Thanks for your help!

Dan

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules

 

You could try these

http://www.access.vis.pl/af0424a.htm

 

My Polish is lousy.

NB.  IMPORTANT  These undocumented commands should only be attempted by 

fully qualified stunt driver.

 

    ' Call a hidden SysCmd to automatically compile/save all modules.

         Call SysCmd(504, 16483)

 

or you could also try Application.IsCompiled   I have heard this maynot 

work in cases where you don't

have full permissions to all objects in the database.Linked tables maybe?

 

Polish List

 

SysCmd(7) 'Detects the Access VERSION number

 

For Access 97:

 

SysCmd 603, PathMdb, PathMde 'convert MDB -> MDE

SysCmd 602, PathMdb, PathMdb 'compact DB

SysCmd 555 'create MSysIMEX... tables

SysCmd(504, 16483) 'save and compile code

SysCmd(504, 16484) 'save code without compiling

SysCmd(501, i) 'list of references, i = 0, 1, ... n

SysCmd(500) 'count of references

 

For Access 2000+:

 

SysCmd 603, PathMdb, PathMde 'convert MDB -> MDE

SysCmd 602, PathMdb, PathMdb 'compact DB

'You must use in this case following method, example:

    Dim accApp As Access.Application

    Set accApp = New Access.Application

    accApp.SysCmd 603, PathMdb, PathMde

    accApp.SysCmd 602, PathMdb, PathMdb

    Set accApp = Nothing

SysCmd(605, 0) 'convert DB to previous version

SysCmd(605, "C:\Database97.mdb") 'convert DB to previous version

SysCmd(607,"C:\Project1.adp") 'convert DB to ADP project

SysCmd(608, i) '60 tips about Access programming for i=0, 1, ... 60

SysCmd(710, 68486165) 'set Polish keyboard (if installed)

SysCmd(710, 67699721) 'set US keyboard

SysCmd(710, 68748313) 'set Russian keyboard

SysCmd(710, 67634184) 'set Greek keyboard

SysCmd(710, ...) 'set other country keyboard

SysCmd(710,1) 'set next installed keyboard

SysCmd(710,0) 'set previous installed keyboard

SysCmd(711) 'return put keyboard currently

SysCmd(714) 'returns TRUE, if any form, report, macro or module is in design

mode

SysCmd(715) 'returns Build number of MSACCESS.EXE file to check Access

version or e.g. which Service Pack is installed.

 

 

 

Dan Waters wrote:

 

>Has anyone tried this?

>

> 

>

>DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCompileAllModules

>

> 

>

>I wanted to use it to detect any compile errors before shutting down my

>development database.  I tested with a misspelled keyword (DoCmd.Close

>acformX, "frmMyForm"), and this was not detected by the compile command.
Of

>course if I click the compile button it is detected.

>

> 

>

>Should this work as I'm expecting?

>

> 

>

>Dan Waters

>

>ProMation Systems, Inc.

>

>  

>

 

-- 

Marty Connelly

Victoria, B.C.

Canada

 

 

 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Oct 18 10:19:05 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:19:05 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules - Solved!
In-Reply-To: <000d01c4b522$2cd468d0$de1811d8@danwaters>
References: <000d01c4b522$2cd468d0$de1811d8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <14529230701.20041018171905@cactus.dk>

Hi Dan

I haven't tested this scenario.
Are you sure the code is compiled when you reopen the application?

The original problem was that whenever you fiddle with the references
- as you do if you reestablish these after having found one or more
missing reference - you wish to have the code compiled before moving
on. That couldn't be done without moving the task to the AutoExec
macro. 

/gustav


> I put this code in the Click event of the system Exit button:

> If CurrentPCName = "DanWaters" Then
>     '-- Try to compile the VBA code.  If it doesn't compile, stop system
>         shutdown. _
>         Note: If VBA code can't be compiled, no error is raised.  But,
>                   Application.IsCompiled will still be False. _
>               If VBA code can be compiled, then it will be compiled and
>                   Application.IsCompiled will then be True.
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCompileAllModules
>     If Application.IsCompiled = False Then
>         FormattedMsgBox GstgNotReady, "The database could not compile!@ @",
>             vbExclamation + vbOKOnly, "Not Compiled"
>         Exit Sub
>     End If
> End If

> The function CurrentPCName is my function which uses the API
> GetComputerName.

> It turns out that acCmdCompileAllModules really does compile code in the
> current database.



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Oct 18 11:53:59 2004
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:53:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules - Solved!
In-Reply-To: <25230394.1098113286597.JavaMail.root@sniper2.usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <001501c4b533$105f3110$de1811d8@danwaters>

Hi Gustav,

I just tested this when the database was not compiled, then compiled using
DoCmd.CompileAllModules in the shutdown sequence.  When I reopened the
database it was still compiled.

I haven't been doing anything with references, I just wanted to find a way
to catch myself if code couldn't be compiled prior to closing the database.


Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] acCmdCompileAllModules - Solved!

Hi Dan

I haven't tested this scenario.
Are you sure the code is compiled when you reopen the application?

The original problem was that whenever you fiddle with the references
- as you do if you reestablish these after having found one or more
missing reference - you wish to have the code compiled before moving
on. That couldn't be done without moving the task to the AutoExec
macro. 

/gustav


> I put this code in the Click event of the system Exit button:

> If CurrentPCName = "DanWaters" Then
>     '-- Try to compile the VBA code.  If it doesn't compile, stop system
>         shutdown. _
>         Note: If VBA code can't be compiled, no error is raised.  But,
>                   Application.IsCompiled will still be False. _
>               If VBA code can be compiled, then it will be compiled and
>                   Application.IsCompiled will then be True.
>     DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCompileAllModules
>     If Application.IsCompiled = False Then
>         FormattedMsgBox GstgNotReady, "The database could not compile!@
@",
>             vbExclamation + vbOKOnly, "Not Compiled"
>         Exit Sub
>     End If
> End If

> The function CurrentPCName is my function which uses the API
> GetComputerName.

> It turns out that acCmdCompileAllModules really does compile code in the
> current database.

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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Mon Oct 18 07:24:57 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 05:24:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: [dba-Tech] Script Editor (x-posted)
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB7D9@nprdex02.nns.com>

Any suggestions for the problem listed below?


TIA,

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Mitsules, Mark 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 1:51 PM
To: dba-tech at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [dba-Tech] Script Editor


Anyone have a free recommendation for a utility that will take a .js file
(that has zero line breaks) and reformat it back to "normal"?


Mark
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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Mon Oct 18 13:01:39 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:01:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738EC@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I am using the following code to open a from the menu form and filter the
records so that the user sees only their records.

    Dim stDocName As String

    Dim stLinkCriteria As String

    

    stDocName = "frmProjects"

    stLinkCriteria = "[QAFName]=" & "'" & Me![UsersName] & "'"

    

    DoCmd.Close 'Closes the menu form.

    

    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria

 

The problem is that sometimes the user's name will not  be found on the form
in the [QAFName] text box.  This would simply mean that the user is not a
"Quality Assurance" person on anybody's project.  When this happens I don't
want the form to open.  I want a message box to pop up that says "You are
not the QA on any projects".  On clicking ok on the message box the menu
opens back up.  

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Mon Oct 18 13:23:21 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:23:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F501E26383@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>

Susan,

Try something like:

(air code)

	Dim stDocName As String
	Dim stLinkCriteria As String

	If Nz(Dlookup("[ProjectID]","tblProjects","[QAFName]='" &
Me![UsersName] & "'"),"NotFound") = "NotFound" Then
		MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects."
	Else
		stDocName = "frmProjects"	
		stLinkCriteria = "[QAFName]=" & "'" & Me![UsersName] &
"'"
		DoCmd.Close 'Closes the menu form.
		DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
	End If

Just substitute your actual field and table names in the dlookup
function.

HTH,

Don McGillivray




From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Mon Oct 18 13:31:59 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:31:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407BD@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

OK.  I am doing the same thing to open a form and determine pretty much
the same kind of filter.  I get queezy using dlookups and was trying to
find a better way, not using dlookups, to achieve the same
functionality.  I was under the assumption that using dlookups is a nono
as other programs do not understand them (in the event I upgrade to
VB.net) and dlookups are slow.  Any other suggestions beside the old
dlookup method?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mcgillivray,
Donald [ITS]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 2:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


Susan,

Try something like:

(air code)

	Dim stDocName As String
	Dim stLinkCriteria As String

	If Nz(Dlookup("[ProjectID]","tblProjects","[QAFName]='" &
Me![UsersName] & "'"),"NotFound") = "NotFound" Then
		MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects."
	Else
		stDocName = "frmProjects"	
		stLinkCriteria = "[QAFName]=" & "'" & Me![UsersName] &
"'"
		DoCmd.Close 'Closes the menu form.
		DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
	End If

Just substitute your actual field and table names in the dlookup
function.

HTH,

Don McGillivray


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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Oct 18 13:52:23 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:52:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337183@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

How about seek? Would that work here?
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


OK.  I am doing the same thing to open a form and determine pretty much
the same kind of filter.  I get queezy using dlookups and was trying to
find a better way, not using dlookups, to achieve the same
functionality.  I was under the assumption that using dlookups is a nono
as other programs do not understand them (in the event I upgrade to
VB.net) and dlookups are slow.  Any other suggestions beside the old
dlookup method?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mcgillivray,
Donald [ITS]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 2:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


Susan,

Try something like:

(air code)

	Dim stDocName As String
	Dim stLinkCriteria As String

	If Nz(Dlookup("[ProjectID]","tblProjects","[QAFName]='" &
Me![UsersName] & "'"),"NotFound") = "NotFound" Then
		MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects."
	Else
		stDocName = "frmProjects"	
		stLinkCriteria = "[QAFName]=" & "'" & Me![UsersName] &
"'"
		DoCmd.Close 'Closes the menu form.
		DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
	End If

Just substitute your actual field and table names in the dlookup
function.

HTH,

Don McGillivray


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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Mon Oct 18 13:56:03 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 13:56:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F501E263FC@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>

Well, I don't have to worry much about portability issues, but I'd be
interested in the opinions of folks better versed than I in the area of
optimization.  I was under the impression that a simple one-time call to
a domain function in a case like this is no big deal in terms of speed.
(I suppose it depends on the size of the table.)  I do avoid using them
in iterative processes, however.  

Maybe after applying the filter you could evaluate the state of the
form's underlying recordset (eof/bof) upon open (load?), and, if it's
empty, display a message box and close the form.  Just speculating here
- haven't actually tried it.



-----Original Message-----

OK.  I am doing the same thing to open a form and determine pretty much
the same kind of filter.  I get queezy using dlookups and was trying to
find a better way, not using dlookups, to achieve the same
functionality.  I was under the assumption that using dlookups is a nono
as other programs do not understand them (in the event I upgrade to
VB.net) and dlookups are slow.  Any other suggestions beside the old
dlookup method?


From artful at rogers.com  Mon Oct 18 14:21:34 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:21:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
In-Reply-To: <20041016210746.LLTU2383.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20041016210746.LLTU2383.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <417417BE.5030103@rogers.com>

Susan Harkins wrote:

>I've got some SQL code that compares two tables and reports on records that
>aren't in both tables. I did a bit of checking to be sure, but I can't find
>any built-in Access feature that does this -- anyone know of a wizard or
>something that I might have missed? I'd hate to recommend something that's
>not necessary. 
> 
>Susan H. 
>  
>
That must be some bitchin' code, rather like the SQL underlying such 
statements from "Star Trek" as, "Scan the federation databases for 
anomalies."

I would suggest that the set of records not found in both tables is 
infinite, to say the least. :)

A.


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Oct 18 16:39:28 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:39:28 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
In-Reply-To: <417417BE.5030103@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <006701c4b55a$f20870a0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

ROTFLMAO

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Arthur Fuller
> Sent: 18 October 2004 20:22
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] comparing tables
> 
> 
> Susan Harkins wrote:
> 
> >I've got some SQL code that compares two tables and reports 
> on records 
> >that aren't in both tables. I did a bit of checking to be 
> sure, but I 
> >can't find any built-in Access feature that does this -- 
> anyone know of 
> >a wizard or something that I might have missed? I'd hate to 
> recommend 
> >something that's not necessary.
> > 
> >Susan H.
> >  
> >
> That must be some bitchin' code, rather like the SQL underlying such 
> statements from "Star Trek" as, "Scan the federation databases for 
> anomalies."
> 
> I would suggest that the set of records not found in both tables is 
> infinite, to say the least. :)
> 
> A.
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Mon Oct 18 17:04:12 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:04:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase
Message-ID: <166240-220041011822412200@christopherhawkins.com>

So here's the dilemma.  I have an mdb that is executing
DoCmd.TransferDatabase to pull a .dbf file in.  This work great on
every machine except for one.  On the problem machine, the code
throws an error (paraphrased):  "run-time error 2507: the type "DBASE
5.0" is not an installed database type".

I've googoled but to no avail.  WHat's really kicking my butt is that
I've heard of this one befroe, I know it.  But I can't find any
solutions anywhere.

Has anyone seen this, or have a link to a KBase article or something
I can use to guide my way througha troubleshoot?
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Oct 18 17:26:08 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:26:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407BD@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <4174CFA0.7818.19243AED@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 18 Oct 2004 at 14:31, Nicholson, Karen wrote:

> OK.  I am doing the same thing to open a form and determine pretty much
> the same kind of filter.  I get queezy using dlookups and was trying to
> find a better way, not using dlookups, to achieve the same
> functionality.  I was under the assumption that using dlookups is a nono
> as other programs do not understand them (in the event I upgrade to
> VB.net) and dlookups are slow.  Any other suggestions beside the old
> dlookup method?
> 

If you want to avoid DLookup/DCount et al, you can roll your own 
equivalent. Something along the lines of:

Function IsQA(User as String) as Boolean
	Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
	rs = CurrentDB.Openrecordset("Select count(*) from tblProjects where 	
QAFName = '" & User & "'")
	IsQA =  rs(0)
End Function

Then just use:

If IsQA(Username) Then
    DoCmd.OpenForm "frmProjects",,,,"QAFName ='" & Username & "'"
Else
    MsgBox "You are not QA on any Project"
End If


-- 
Stuart




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Oct 18 17:33:53 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:33:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AE8@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Don't you need the Borland Database engine on the machine to handle
dBase 5.0?  Try googling for that or for "BDE"

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 3:04 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase


So here's the dilemma.  I have an mdb that is executing
DoCmd.TransferDatabase to pull a .dbf file in.  This work great on every
machine except for one.  On the problem machine, the code throws an
error (paraphrased):  "run-time error 2507: the type "DBASE 5.0" is not
an installed database type".

I've googoled but to no avail.  WHat's really kicking my butt is that
I've heard of this one befroe, I know it.  But I can't find any
solutions anywhere.

Has anyone seen this, or have a link to a KBase article or something I
can use to guide my way througha troubleshoot? Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Oct 18 17:41:52 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:41:52 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AE8@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200410182242.i9IMg0XH022642@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Chris
Not a solution - just a suggestion
Try the usual 'update to latest' packs

IE install the latest Jet for that OS 
Latest Service pack for that OS
Make sure all the data options for that version of Office are installed etc.

Hope this helps

Darren
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2004 8:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase

Don't you need the Borland Database engine on the machine to handle dBase
5.0?  Try googling for that or for "BDE"

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 3:04 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase


So here's the dilemma.  I have an mdb that is executing
DoCmd.TransferDatabase to pull a .dbf file in.  This work great on every
machine except for one.  On the problem machine, the code throws an
error (paraphrased):  "run-time error 2507: the type "DBASE 5.0" is not
an installed database type".

I've googoled but to no avail.  WHat's really kicking my butt is that
I've heard of this one befroe, I know it.  But I can't find any
solutions anywhere.

Has anyone seen this, or have a link to a KBase article or something I
can use to guide my way througha troubleshoot? Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 19 01:41:31 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:41:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase
In-Reply-To: <166240-220041011822412200@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <007a01c4b5a6$ab9e8db0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Chris
Isn't support for DBF an option on the Access install? Could it be that
machine didn't opt for it?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Hawkins
> Sent: 18 October 2004 23:04
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Run-Time error 2507 when importing from DBase
> 
> 
> So here's the dilemma.  I have an mdb that is executing 
> DoCmd.TransferDatabase to pull a .dbf file in.  This work 
> great on every machine except for one.  On the problem 
> machine, the code throws an error (paraphrased):  "run-time 
> error 2507: the type "DBASE 5.0" is not an installed database type".
> 
> I've googoled but to no avail.  WHat's really kicking my butt 
> is that I've heard of this one befroe, I know it.  But I 
> can't find any solutions anywhere.
> 
> Has anyone seen this, or have a link to a KBase article or 
> something I can use to guide my way througha troubleshoot? 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Christopher Hawkins
> Software Developer
> (559) 687-7591
> http://www.christopherhawkins.com
> 
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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Tue Oct 19 02:14:27 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:14:27 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C3D4@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Morning Christopher!

Sorry I'm a day late with this.

Below is the batch file that I use to update an Access FE file on user's
local C: drives.

The file 'lives' on the same network 'share' as the current FE file
(\\<server>\<path>\ChrisFoote\). 

It checks to see if the locally stored file has the same filename as the
latest version (this is 'hard coded' in the batch file).

If it is, it runs Access and opens the FE file and quits the batch file.

If the file does not exist it makes the required sub-directory, deletes any
existing older version of the file, and copies the latest version to the new
directory.

Access is then run and the new FE file opened.

The users of this db have a desktop link to this batch file.

HTH - Chris Foote

(Now I come to describe the operation of this bat file I realise that it
could be improved somewhat! Still, it seems to work ok ;-O)

----------(Bat file)
@echo off
if not exist "c:\Program Files\jamling\Jamling-a14.mdb" goto getdb:
goto startdb
:getdb
md "c:\Program Files\jamling" >nul
del "c:\Program Files\jamling\Jamling*.mdb" >nul
copy "\\<server>\<path>\ChrisFoote\Jamling-a14.mdb" "c:\Program
Files\jamling" >nul
:startdb
start "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\MSACCESS.EXE" "c:\Program
Files\jamling\Jamling-a14.mdb"
exit

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Foote (Spike) [mailto:spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk]
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 9:18 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
> 
> 
> Hi Christopher!
> 
> I have a batch file at work doing just the job you are after.
> 
> If you can wait 'til Monday I'll send it to you then.
> 
> Regards!
> Chris Foote
> 
> 
> <All outgoing e-mail messages are swept for malware using 
> Norton Anti-virus
> 9.05.15 with virus definitions dated 12th October 2004>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Christopher
> Hawkins
> Sent: 15 October 2004 20:39
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Updating front-end via batch file?
> 
> 
> Hello, all.
> 
> I have a client who is constantly tinkering with his home-grown
> Access solution and is constantly rolling out updates (against my
> advice, of course).
> 
> I was about to set him up with a simple batch file that just uses
> COPY [origin] [destination]  to copy  the latest version of the .mdb
> from a folder on the server to a user's machine.  But before I do, I
> want to know if it is possible to get a little fancier.
> 
> I would like the batch file to a) compare the filename on the user's
> machine to the filename on the server, and then b) do the copy if the
> names are different, or c) NOT do the copy if the names are the same
> (my client likes to put the version number in the filename).
> 
> Is this too much to ask of the humble batch file?
> 
> 
> -Christopher-
> 
> P.S.
> And for those of you who wonder why I don't use a vbscript file, this
> client swaps eMachines and other budget boxes in and out of his
> business based on what's on sale at Costco that week (again, against
> my advice).  I can't be sure that new boxes he brings in will have
> WSH or any of the complementary components installed on the
> bastardized version of WinXP that ships with a lot of thses crap
> boxes.  But I know that batch files work on everything from Win95 up.
> ;)
> Respectfully,
> 
> Christopher Hawkins
> Software Developer
> (559) 687-7591
> http://www.christopherhawkins.com
> 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct 19 04:05:23 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:05:23 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
In-Reply-To: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F501E263FC@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>
References: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F501E263FC@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <926977783.20041019110523@cactus.dk>

Hi Donald and Susan

It's an old and persistent rumour that DLookup is always slow. Quite
often it is not. So, Susan, give it a try - it's extremely simple and
in a minute your problem will be solved and you can move on to the
more funny tasks.

By the way, the code could be simplified even further:

  strCriteria ="[QAFName]='" & Me![UsersName] & "'"
  If IsNull(Dlookup("[ProjectID]", "tblProjects", strCriteria)) Then
    MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects."
  Else
    ' Open form ...
  End If

/gustav


> Well, I don't have to worry much about portability issues, but I'd be
> interested in the opinions of folks better versed than I in the area of
> optimization.  I was under the impression that a simple one-time call to
> a domain function in a case like this is no big deal in terms of speed.
> (I suppose it depends on the size of the table.)  I do avoid using them
> in iterative processes, however.  



From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct 19 04:10:53 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:10:53 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] comparing tables
In-Reply-To: <417417BE.5030103@rogers.com>
References: <20041016210746.LLTU2383.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
	<417417BE.5030103@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <1527308328.20041019111053@cactus.dk>

Nice catch Arthur!

/gustav


> Susan Harkins wrote:

>>I've got some SQL code that compares two tables and reports on records that
>>aren't in both tables. I did a bit of checking to be sure, but I can't find
>>any built-in Access feature that does this -- anyone know of a wizard or
>>something that I might have missed? I'd hate to recommend something that's
>>not necessary. 
>> 
>>Susan H. 
>>  
>>
> That must be some bitchin' code, rather like the SQL underlying such 
> statements from "Star Trek" as, "Scan the federation databases for 
> anomalies."

> I would suggest that the set of records not found in both tables is 
> infinite, to say the least. :)

> A.



From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Oct 19 05:20:36 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:20:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E438407C2@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Wowzer.  I am going to try this to see if this works faster than my
dlookup and relieves my conscience (sp?) of using dlookups when I know
this database will be upscaled someday and I won't have another
programmer complaining that I used dlookups.  Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 6:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


On 18 Oct 2004 at 14:31, Nicholson, Karen wrote:

> OK.  I am doing the same thing to open a form and determine pretty
much
> the same kind of filter.  I get queezy using dlookups and was trying
to
> find a better way, not using dlookups, to achieve the same
> functionality.  I was under the assumption that using dlookups is a
nono
> as other programs do not understand them (in the event I upgrade to
> VB.net) and dlookups are slow.  Any other suggestions beside the old
> dlookup method?
> 

If you want to avoid DLookup/DCount et al, you can roll your own 
equivalent. Something along the lines of:

Function IsQA(User as String) as Boolean
	Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
	rs = CurrentDB.Openrecordset("Select count(*) from tblProjects
where 	
QAFName = '" & User & "'")
	IsQA =  rs(0)
End Function

Then just use:

If IsQA(Username) Then
    DoCmd.OpenForm "frmProjects",,,,"QAFName ='" & Username & "'"
Else
    MsgBox "You are not QA on any Project"
End If


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 19 05:42:09 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:42:09 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Message-ID: <20041019104207.0C00024CDA7@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Can you enumerate through the event procedures of a form or control? I want
to modify my homespun search routine to look for function calls triggered
from an event (not from code), and was wondering if I can do a For Each sort
of loop or if I've got to specify each event/
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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 19 07:22:57 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:22:57 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC4@starfleet.unknown.local>

Guys,

Does anyone know how, using DAO, to check whether a recordset is currently open and also whether the database is currently open. In ADO you can use "State", but there seems to be no equivalent in DAO...

Any ideas?

Vlad




From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 19 07:24:10 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:24:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328088648@starfleet.unknown.local>

Marty,

Your a god!

Thanks
Vlad


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2004 2:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Filemaker ODBC Driver for Access


On the filemaker site there are methods to export files to an xml 
spreadsheet Excel 2002 or 2003
Then just export to Access. May not work for your version of FileMaker tho.
http://www.filemaker.com/technologies/xslt_library.html

ACTEBS wrote:

>Guys,
> 
>Does anyone know where to get an ODBC driver for Filemaker Pro? I have a
>client who is migrating from Filemaker Pro to Access (Government Dept)
>and they would not know where to get the disk that was originally
>installed on their PC. The task of extracting the data from his FmPro DB
>into Access is part of an app I'm building for them.
> 
>I don't want to purchase one if I don't have to, but the only ones I can
>find online are $100+. For one file and one import instance I can't see
>that that is value for money...
> 
>Any help greatly appreciated...
> 
>Vlad
> 
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Oct 19 07:41:51 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (bchacc at san.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:41:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Message-ID: <32270-2200410219124151596@M2W079.mail2web.com>


Vlad,

All I can think of right off is to issue a DAO command like .FindFirst and
trap the error.

HTH anyway,

Rocky


Original Message:
-----------------
From: ACTEBS actebs at actebs.com.au
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:22:57 +1000
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?


Guys,

Does anyone know how, using DAO, to check whether a recordset is currently
open and also whether the database is currently open. In ADO you can use
"State", but there seems to be no equivalent in DAO...

Any ideas?

Vlad


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 19 07:43:45 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:43:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Message-ID: <20041019124343.010DC25550E@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi Vlad

How about:

If rst Is Nothing Then


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To: Access Group E-mail <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Date: 19/10/04 12:26

>
> Guys,
>
> Does anyone know how, using DAO, to check whether a recordset is currently
open and also whether the database is currently open. In ADO you can use
&quot;State&quot;, but there seems to be no equivalent in DAO...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Vlad
>
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct 19 07:48:49 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:48:49 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
In-Reply-To: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC4@starfleet.unknown.local>
References: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BC4@starfleet.unknown.local>
Message-ID: <17220383910.20041019144849@cactus.dk>

Hi Vlad

I believe the only method is to try to open it exclusively and catch
the error if that fails.

/gustav

> Does anyone know how, using DAO, to check whether a recordset is
> currently open and also whether the database is currently open. In
> ADO you can use "State", but there seems to be no equivalent in  
> DAO...



From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 19 08:05:52 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:05:52 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328088649@starfleet.unknown.local>

Andy,

You're a star. Thanks to Gustav and Rocky for their suggestions. For the life of me I couldn't come up with that. I love this list!

Vlad


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2004 10:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?


Hi Vlad

How about:

If rst Is Nothing Then


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To: Access Group E-mail <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Date: 19/10/04 12:26

>
> Guys,
>
> Does anyone know how, using DAO, to check whether a recordset is currently
open and also whether the database is currently open. In ADO you can use
&quot;State&quot;, but there seems to be no equivalent in DAO...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Vlad
>
>
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From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Tue Oct 19 08:24:53 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:24:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
References: <20041019104207.0C00024CDA7@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <00aa01c4b5df$05895fc0$6401a8c0@default>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:42 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??


> Can you enumerate through the event procedures of a form or control? I
want
> to modify my homespun search routine to look for function calls triggered
> from an event (not from code), and was wondering if I can do a For Each
sort
> of loop or if I've got to specify each event/
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk

Andy,

You can iterate through each Control and Form/Report
using a properties loop:

Const EVP As String = "[Event Procedure]"
Dim prp As Access.Property

For each prp in Obj.Properties
    If IsEvent(prp.Name) Then
        If prp.Value = EVP Then
            '
        End If
    End If
Next

Function IsEvent(prpName As String) As Boolean
'Actually, this is a table in one of the A97 Wizards
    IsEvent = False
        Select Case prpName
            Case "BeforeInsert", "AfterInsert", "ApplyFilter"
                IsEvent = True
            Case "BeforeUpdate", "AfterUpdate"
                IsEvent = True
            Case "BeforeDelConfirm", "AfterDelConfirm"
                IsEvent = True
            Case Else
                If Left(prpName, 2) = "On" Then
                    IsEvent = True
                End If
        End Select
End Function
----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Tue Oct 19 09:15:42 2004
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 19:45:42 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
References: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738EC@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.i
	nt>
Message-ID: <003f01c4b5e6$5c366230$ac1865cb@winxp>

Canceling Open Action Of Form - If No Record
===================================

    As a generic solution, insertion of code block given at (A) below, in Open event of the target form, will ensure that if there is no record (in its record source), the form will refuse to open and display a custom message instead.

    This solution is universally applicable, whatever the filtering criteria in the command used for opening the form. It is however desirable to precede such a command by the following statement, in order to prevent error message (2501 - The OpenForm action was cancelled).
    On Error Resume Next

    It is observed from the original post (by Susan), that the command for closing the menu form has been placed before that for opening the target form. It has to be the other way around. Suggested revised code for click event of appropriate command button (CmdOpen) on the menu form, is given at (B) below.

A.D.Tejpal
--------------

(A) Code in target form (frmProjects)
==================================
Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    With Me.RecordsetClone
        If .BOF And .EOF Then
            MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects"
            Cancel = 1
        End If
    End With
End Sub
==================================

(B) Code in Menu Form
==================================
Private Sub CmdOpen_Click()
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
    
    If Len(Nz(UsersName, "")) = 0 Then
        Exit Sub
    End If
    
    stDocName = "frmProjects"
    stLinkCriteria = "[QAFName]=" &  _
                                "'" & Me![UsersName] & "'"
    
    On Error Resume Next
        DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
    On Error GoTo 0

    DoCmd.Close acForm, Me.Name
    
End Sub
==================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 14:35
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


  Hi Donald and Susan

  It's an old and persistent rumour that DLookup is always slow. Quite often it is not. So, Susan, give it a try - it's extremely simple and in a minute your problem will be solved and you can move on to the more funny tasks.

  By the way, the code could be simplified even further:

    strCriteria ="[QAFName]='" & Me![UsersName] & "'"
    If IsNull(Dlookup("[ProjectID]", "tblProjects", strCriteria)) Then
      MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects."
    Else
      ' Open form ...
    End If

  /gustav


  > Well, I don't have to worry much about portability issues, but I'd be interested in the opinions of folks better versed than I in the area of optimization.  
  I was under the impression that a simple one-time call to a domain function in a case like this is no big deal in terms of speed. 
  > (I suppose it depends on the size of the table.)  I do avoid using them in iterative processes, however.  

  << SNIP >>

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Klos, Susan 
  To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com' 
  Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 23:31
  Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


  I am using the following code to open a from the menu form and filter the records so that the user sees only their records.

      Dim stDocName As String
      Dim stLinkCriteria As String    

      stDocName = "frmProjects"
      stLinkCriteria = "[QAFName]=" & "'" & Me![UsersName] & "'"    

      DoCmd.Close 'Closes the menu form.
      DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria 

  The problem is that sometimes the user's name will not  be found on the form in the [QAFName] text box.  This would simply mean that the user is not a "Quality Assurance" person on anybody's project.  
  When this happens I don't want the form to open.  I want a message box to pop up that says "You are not the QA on any projects".  On clicking ok on the message box the menu
  opens back up.   

  Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

  Susan Klos
  Senior Database Analyst
  Evaluation and Reporting
  Florida Department of Education
  850-245-0708 
  sc 205-0708



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 19 09:33:13 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:33:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86651CA4@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I agree, Gustav.  Sometimes a domain aggregate function is the *fastest*
way to get a single piece of information, since all you're doing is
effectively running a query on the fly to return a single value.  Where
it is slow is in a query where it executes once for every record.  And
in code, returning a single recordset and working with that is faster
when it replaces multiple Dlookups.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


Hi Donald and Susan

It's an old and persistent rumour that DLookup is always slow. Quite
often it is not. So, Susan, give it a try - it's extremely simple and in
a minute your problem will be solved and you can move on to the more
funny tasks.

By the way, the code could be simplified even further:

  strCriteria ="[QAFName]='" & Me![UsersName] & "'"
  If IsNull(Dlookup("[ProjectID]", "tblProjects", strCriteria)) Then
    MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects."
  Else
    ' Open form ...
  End If

/gustav


> Well, I don't have to worry much about portability issues, but I'd be 
> interested in the opinions of folks better versed than I in the area 
> of optimization.  I was under the impression that a simple one-time 
> call to a domain function in a case like this is no big deal in terms 
> of speed. (I suppose it depends on the size of the table.)  I do avoid

> using them in iterative processes, however.

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 19 09:34:02 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:34:02 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Message-ID: <20041019143358.AFCB6253B8E@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Happy to help Vlad. Note though that my solution only looks to see if you
(ie the cuuent instance of Access) have that recordset open. The others were
looking to see if the underlying table was open anywhere. Be sure to choose
the right one for what you're after.

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From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: RE: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
Date: 19/10/04 13:09

>
> Andy,
>
> You're a star. Thanks to Gustav and Rocky for their suggestions. For the
life of me I couldn't come up with that. I love this list!
>
> Vlad
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2004 10:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
>
>
> Hi Vlad
>
> How about:
>
> If rst Is Nothing Then
>
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
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> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> To: Access Group E-mail &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Subject: [AccessD] DAO Recordset/Database is Open?
> Date: 19/10/04 12:26
>
> &gt;
> &gt; Guys,
> &gt;
> &gt; Does anyone know how, using DAO, to check whether a recordset is
currently
> open and also whether the database is currently open. In ADO you can use
> &amp;quot;State&amp;quot;, but there seems to be no equivalent in DAO...
> &gt;
> &gt; Any ideas?
> &gt;
> &gt; Vlad
> &gt;
> &gt;
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 19 09:57:06 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:57:06 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Message-ID: <20041019145703.417432547B6@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi Michael
That looks great but when I open a form (A97 BTW) and iterate through its
properties I don't see any of the events, just things like its Name,
LastUpdated and stuff. What am I doing wrong?

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Date: 19/10/04 13:33

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: &quot;Andy Lacey&quot; &lt;andy at minstersystems.co.uk&gt;
> To: &quot;Access Developers discussion and problem solving&quot;
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:42 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
>
>
> &gt; Can you enumerate through the event procedures of a form or control?
I
> want
> &gt; to modify my homespun search routine to look for function calls
triggered
> &gt; from an event (not from code), and was wondering if I can do a For
Each
> sort
> &gt; of loop or if I've got to specify each event/
> &gt; --
> &gt; Andy Lacey
> &gt; http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
> Andy,
>
> You can iterate through each Control and Form/Report
> using a properties loop:
>
> Const EVP As String = &quot;[Event Procedure]&quot;
> Dim prp As Access.Property
>
> For each prp in Obj.Properties
>     If IsEvent(prp.Name) Then
>         If prp.Value = EVP Then
>             '
>         End If
>     End If
> Next
>
> Function IsEvent(prpName As String) As Boolean
> 'Actually, this is a table in one of the A97 Wizards
>     IsEvent = False
>         Select Case prpName
>             Case &quot;BeforeInsert&quot;, &quot;AfterInsert&quot;,
&quot;ApplyFilter&quot;
>                 IsEvent = True
>             Case &quot;BeforeUpdate&quot;, &quot;AfterUpdate&quot;
>                 IsEvent = True
>             Case &quot;BeforeDelConfirm&quot;, &quot;AfterDelConfirm&quot;
>                 IsEvent = True
>             Case Else
>                 If Left(prpName, 2) = &quot;On&quot; Then
>                     IsEvent = True
>                 End If
>         End Select
> End Function
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
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From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Tue Oct 19 10:17:38 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:17:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
References: <20041019145703.417432547B6@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <013201c4b5ee$c783bd00$6401a8c0@default>

Andy,

Everything on the Properties Sheet for any object
is contained within that object's properties collection.
Try putting a stop in the code where you've written
(This is DAO code)

Dim frm As Access.Form
Dim prp As Access.Property
Set frm = Forms("X")
For Each prp In frm.Properties
    Stop
Next

Now look at the Properties Window in the VBE.
You should see every event listed under frm.
What we are looking for is the Name of a property
that is listed in the Select ... Case structure and if it's
value equals EVP, then we know that it triggers an
event.
.
We can also get functions in the property sheet
that are of the form "=MyFunction()" by simply
checking the Len() of the prp.Value and whether
or not it equals EVP or IsNull().

HTH
----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Lacey" <andy at minstersystems.co.uk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??


> Hi Michael
> That looks great but when I open a form (A97 BTW) and iterate through its
> properties I don't see any of the events, just things like its Name,
> LastUpdated and stuff. What am I doing wrong?
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??
> Date: 19/10/04 13:33
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: &quot;Andy Lacey&quot; &lt;andy at minstersystems.co.uk&gt;
> > To: &quot;Access Developers discussion and problem solving&quot;
> > &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:42 AM
> > Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
> >
> >
> > &gt; Can you enumerate through the event procedures of a form or
control?
> I
> > want
> > &gt; to modify my homespun search routine to look for function calls
> triggered
> > &gt; from an event (not from code), and was wondering if I can do a For
> Each
> > sort
> > &gt; of loop or if I've got to specify each event/
> > &gt; --
> > &gt; Andy Lacey
> > &gt; http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> >
> > Andy,
> >
> > You can iterate through each Control and Form/Report
> > using a properties loop:
> >
> > Const EVP As String = &quot;[Event Procedure]&quot;
> > Dim prp As Access.Property
> >
> > For each prp in Obj.Properties
> >     If IsEvent(prp.Name) Then
> >         If prp.Value = EVP Then
> >             '
> >         End If
> >     End If
> > Next
> >
> > Function IsEvent(prpName As String) As Boolean
> > 'Actually, this is a table in one of the A97 Wizards
> >     IsEvent = False
> >         Select Case prpName
> >             Case &quot;BeforeInsert&quot;, &quot;AfterInsert&quot;,
> &quot;ApplyFilter&quot;
> >                 IsEvent = True
> >             Case &quot;BeforeUpdate&quot;, &quot;AfterUpdate&quot;
> >                 IsEvent = True
> >             Case &quot;BeforeDelConfirm&quot;,
&quot;AfterDelConfirm&quot;
> >                 IsEvent = True
> >             Case Else
> >                 If Left(prpName, 2) = &quot;On&quot; Then
> >                     IsEvent = True
> >                 End If
> >         End Select
> > End Function
> > ----
> >
> > Michael R. Mattys
> > Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> > http://www.mattysconsulting.com
> >
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 19 10:51:25 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:51:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AEE@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If you want to itemize the event procedures, you need to work with the
module, not the form itself.  It's very ugly code.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:57 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??


Hi Michael
That looks great but when I open a form (A97 BTW) and iterate through
its properties I don't see any of the events, just things like its Name,
LastUpdated and stuff. What am I doing wrong?

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Date: 19/10/04 13:33

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: &quot;Andy Lacey&quot; &lt;andy at minstersystems.co.uk&gt;
> To: &quot;Access Developers discussion and problem solving&quot; 
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:42 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
>
>
> &gt; Can you enumerate through the event procedures of a form or 
> control?
I
> want
> &gt; to modify my homespun search routine to look for function calls
triggered
> &gt; from an event (not from code), and was wondering if I can do a 
> For
Each
> sort
> &gt; of loop or if I've got to specify each event/
> &gt; --
> &gt; Andy Lacey
> &gt; http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
> Andy,
>
> You can iterate through each Control and Form/Report
> using a properties loop:
>
> Const EVP As String = &quot;[Event Procedure]&quot;
> Dim prp As Access.Property
>
> For each prp in Obj.Properties
>     If IsEvent(prp.Name) Then
>         If prp.Value = EVP Then
>             '
>         End If
>     End If
> Next
>
> Function IsEvent(prpName As String) As Boolean
> 'Actually, this is a table in one of the A97 Wizards
>     IsEvent = False
>         Select Case prpName
>             Case &quot;BeforeInsert&quot;, &quot;AfterInsert&quot;,
&quot;ApplyFilter&quot;
>                 IsEvent = True
>             Case &quot;BeforeUpdate&quot;, &quot;AfterUpdate&quot;
>                 IsEvent = True
>             Case &quot;BeforeDelConfirm&quot;,
&quot;AfterDelConfirm&quot;
>                 IsEvent = True
>             Case Else
>                 If Left(prpName, 2) = &quot;On&quot; Then
>                     IsEvent = True
>                 End If
>         End Select
> End Function
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
> --
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 19 11:18:47 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:18:47 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Message-ID: <20041019161844.28FEA24CC77@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi Michael
Found what I was doing wrong. My code to iterate through the form used

For Each Doc In Ctr.Documents

The Doc properties do not include the Events. I needed the "Set frm =
Forms(0)", and now I see them. Terrific. Thanks again Michael.

--
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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Date: 19/10/04 15:22

>
> Andy,
>
> Everything on the Properties Sheet for any object
> is contained within that object's properties collection.
> Try putting a stop in the code where you've written
> (This is DAO code)
>
> Dim frm As Access.Form
> Dim prp As Access.Property
> Set frm = Forms(&quot;X&quot;)
> For Each prp In frm.Properties
>     Stop
> Next
>
> Now look at the Properties Window in the VBE.
> You should see every event listed under frm.
> What we are looking for is the Name of a property
> that is listed in the Select ... Case structure and if it's
> value equals EVP, then we know that it triggers an
> event.
> ..
> We can also get functions in the property sheet
> that are of the form &quot;=MyFunction()&quot; by simply
> checking the Len() of the prp.Value and whether
> or not it equals EVP or IsNull().
>
> HTH
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: &quot;Andy Lacey&quot; &lt;andy at minstersystems.co.uk&gt;
> To: &quot;Access Developers discussion and problem solving&quot;
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??
>
>
> &gt; Hi Michael
> &gt; That looks great but when I open a form (A97 BTW) and iterate through
its
> &gt; properties I don't see any of the events, just things like its Name,
> &gt; LastUpdated and stuff. What am I doing wrong?
> &gt;
> &gt; --
> &gt; Andy Lacey
> &gt; http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; --------- Original Message --------
> &gt; From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> &gt; &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> &gt; To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> &gt; &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> &gt; Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??
> &gt; Date: 19/10/04 13:33
> &gt;
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----
> &gt; &gt; From: &amp;quot;Andy Lacey&amp;quot;
&amp;lt;andy at minstersystems.co.uk&amp;gt;
> &gt; &gt; To: &amp;quot;Access Developers discussion and problem
solving&amp;quot;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&amp;gt;
> &gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 6:42 AM
> &gt; &gt; Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Can you enumerate through the event procedures of a
form or
> control?
> &gt; I
> &gt; &gt; want
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; to modify my homespun search routine to look for
function calls
> &gt; triggered
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; from an event (not from code), and was wondering if I
can do a For
> &gt; Each
> &gt; &gt; sort
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; of loop or if I've got to specify each event/
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; --
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; Andy Lacey
> &gt; &gt; &amp;gt; http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Andy,
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; You can iterate through each Control and Form/Report
> &gt; &gt; using a properties loop:
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Const EVP As String = &amp;quot;[Event Procedure]&amp;quot;
> &gt; &gt; Dim prp As Access.Property
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; For each prp in Obj.Properties
> &gt; &gt;     If IsEvent(prp.Name) Then
> &gt; &gt;         If prp.Value = EVP Then
> &gt; &gt;             '
> &gt; &gt;         End If
> &gt; &gt;     End If
> &gt; &gt; Next
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Function IsEvent(prpName As String) As Boolean
> &gt; &gt; 'Actually, this is a table in one of the A97 Wizards
> &gt; &gt;     IsEvent = False
> &gt; &gt;         Select Case prpName
> &gt; &gt;             Case &amp;quot;BeforeInsert&amp;quot;,
&amp;quot;AfterInsert&amp;quot;,
> &gt; &amp;quot;ApplyFilter&amp;quot;
> &gt; &gt;                 IsEvent = True
> &gt; &gt;             Case &amp;quot;BeforeUpdate&amp;quot;,
&amp;quot;AfterUpdate&amp;quot;
> &gt; &gt;                 IsEvent = True
> &gt; &gt;             Case &amp;quot;BeforeDelConfirm&amp;quot;,
> &amp;quot;AfterDelConfirm&amp;quot;
> &gt; &gt;                 IsEvent = True
> &gt; &gt;             Case Else
> &gt; &gt;                 If Left(prpName, 2) = &amp;quot;On&amp;quot;
Then
> &gt; &gt;                     IsEvent = True
> &gt; &gt;                 End If
> &gt; &gt;         End Select
> &gt; &gt; End Function
> &gt; &gt; ----
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Michael R. Mattys
> &gt; &gt; Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> &gt; &gt; http://www.mattysconsulting.com
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; --
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From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Tue Oct 19 14:58:23 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:58:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312AEE@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <01c201c4b615$fe83de80$6401a8c0@default>

> If you want to itemize the event procedures, you need to work with the
> module, not the form itself.  It's very ugly code.
> 
> Charlotte Foust


Ugly code? Should I defend myself? :)
En Garde, Charlotte Foust!

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint 
http://www.mattysconsulting.com


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 19 16:00:01 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:00:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86651CB6@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Only if you really *like* working with methods like ProcOfLine! ;-}

Here's some I wrote years ago to print a list of event procedures in a
form module to the immediate window.  It tests for the existence of
control event procedures in the form and prints starting line of
existing procedures or MISSING for missing procedures.  Now THAT'S ugly!

Function TestEventProcs(ByVal strFrm As String)
  On Error Resume Next
  Dim frm As Form
  Dim mdl As Module
  Dim ctl As Control
  Dim prp As dao.Property
  Dim strSub As String
  Dim lngSLine As Long
  Dim lngSCol As Long
  Dim lngELine As Long
  Dim lngECol As Long
  Dim intPfx As Integer
  'make sure the form and its module are open
  If Not IsLoaded(strFrm) Then
    DoCmd.OpenForm strFrm, acDesign
  End If
  Set frm = Forms(strFrm)
  Set mdl = Modules("Form_" & strFrm)
  If Err <> 0 Then
    DoCmd.OpenModule "Form_" & strFrm
    Set mdl = Modules("Form_" & strFrm)
  End If
  'loop through the controls
  'looking for event procedures
  For Each ctl In frm.Controls
    For Each prp In ctl.Properties
      If prp.name Like "On*" Or _
        prp.name Like "After*" Or _
        prp.name Like "Before*" Then
        'store the length of the prefix
        If prp.name Like "On*" Then
          intPfx = 2
        ElseIf prp.name Like "After*" Then
          intPfx = 5
        ElseIf prp.name Like "Before*" Then
          intPfx = 6
        End If
          
        If prp.Value = "[Event Procedure]" Then
          'initialize the line and colum variables
          'for the proc find in the module
          lngSLine = 0
          lngSCol = 0
          lngELine = 0
          lngECol = 0
          strSub = ctl.name & "_" & Mid(prp.name, intPfx + 1)
          'look for the event procedure in the module
          If mdl.Find(strSub, lngSLine, lngSCol, lngELine, lngECol) Then
            'if event procedure found,
            'print its name and starting line
            Debug.Print strSub & "() Exists"
            Debug.Print , "Starts at line: " & lngSLine
          Else
            'otherwise, print name and MISSING
            Debug.Print strSub & "() Is MISSING"
          End If
        End If
      End If
    Next prp
  Next ctl
  Set prp = Nothing
  Set ctl = Nothing
  Set mdl = Nothing
  Set frm = Nothing
End Function

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael R Mattys [mailto:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??


> If you want to itemize the event procedures, you need to work with the

> module, not the form itself.  It's very ugly code.
> 
> Charlotte Foust


Ugly code? Should I defend myself? :)
En Garde, Charlotte Foust!

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Oct 19 17:00:00 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:00:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Events Collection??
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86651CB6@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <009501c4b626$fb314860$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

I've got code to look through module code but what I wanted was to find all
occurrences of a function call, some of which are calls fired direct from an
event without using an Event proc. So Michael's code did the job perfectly.
Thanks anyway Charlotte. And you're right, the code to find stuff in a
module is pretty horrible. Can't remember where I got it from. Works though.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Charlotte Foust
> Sent: 19 October 2004 22:00
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Events Collection??
> 
> 
> Only if you really *like* working with methods like ProcOfLine! ;-}
> 
> Here's some I wrote years ago to print a list of event 
> procedures in a form module to the immediate window.  It 
> tests for the existence of control event procedures in the 
> form and prints starting line of existing procedures or 
> MISSING for missing procedures.  Now THAT'S ugly!
> 
> Function TestEventProcs(ByVal strFrm As String)
>   On Error Resume Next
>   Dim frm As Form
>   Dim mdl As Module
>   Dim ctl As Control
>   Dim prp As dao.Property
>   Dim strSub As String
>   Dim lngSLine As Long
>   Dim lngSCol As Long
>   Dim lngELine As Long
>   Dim lngECol As Long
>   Dim intPfx As Integer
>   'make sure the form and its module are open
>   If Not IsLoaded(strFrm) Then
>     DoCmd.OpenForm strFrm, acDesign
>   End If
>   Set frm = Forms(strFrm)
>   Set mdl = Modules("Form_" & strFrm)
>   If Err <> 0 Then
>     DoCmd.OpenModule "Form_" & strFrm
>     Set mdl = Modules("Form_" & strFrm)
>   End If
>   'loop through the controls
>   'looking for event procedures
>   For Each ctl In frm.Controls
>     For Each prp In ctl.Properties
>       If prp.name Like "On*" Or _
>         prp.name Like "After*" Or _
>         prp.name Like "Before*" Then
>         'store the length of the prefix
>         If prp.name Like "On*" Then
>           intPfx = 2
>         ElseIf prp.name Like "After*" Then
>           intPfx = 5
>         ElseIf prp.name Like "Before*" Then
>           intPfx = 6
>         End If
>           
>         If prp.Value = "[Event Procedure]" Then
>           'initialize the line and colum variables
>           'for the proc find in the module
>           lngSLine = 0
>           lngSCol = 0
>           lngELine = 0
>           lngECol = 0
>           strSub = ctl.name & "_" & Mid(prp.name, intPfx + 1)
>           'look for the event procedure in the module
>           If mdl.Find(strSub, lngSLine, lngSCol, lngELine, 
> lngECol) Then
>             'if event procedure found,
>             'print its name and starting line
>             Debug.Print strSub & "() Exists"
>             Debug.Print , "Starts at line: " & lngSLine
>           Else
>             'otherwise, print name and MISSING
>             Debug.Print strSub & "() Is MISSING"
>           End If
>         End If
>       End If
>     Next prp
>   Next ctl
>   Set prp = Nothing
>   Set ctl = Nothing
>   Set mdl = Nothing
>   Set frm = Nothing
> End Function
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael R Mattys [mailto:michael.mattys at adelphia.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:58 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Events Collection??
> 
> 
> > If you want to itemize the event procedures, you need to 
> work with the
> 
> > module, not the form itself.  It's very ugly code.
> > 
> > Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> Ugly code? Should I defend myself? :)
> En Garde, Charlotte Foust!
> 
> ----
> 
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint 
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
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From mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com  Wed Oct 20 10:15:12 2004
From: mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com (Mark Whittinghill)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:15:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: (Cross posted) VSS and VB6
Message-ID: <004d01c4b6b7$991b4c70$2601a8c0@Symphony.local>

Hi all,

   I have a VB6 project where I would like to make a copy of the project
files that is detached from Visual Source Safe, while leaving the original
project alone.  In Access, I can compact a copy of an mdb to do that, but
when I make a copy of my VB files, they seem to still affect my VSS project.
How can I do this?

Thanks,

Mark Whittinghill
Symphony Information Services
763-391-7400
mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com




From mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com  Wed Oct 20 10:34:29 2004
From: mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com (Mark Whittinghill)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:34:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Test - no reply
Message-ID: <000d01c4b6ba$4bcc9ed0$2601a8c0@Symphony.local>



Mark Whittinghill
Symphony Information Services
763-391-7400
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Oct 20 12:04:41 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:04:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Load Excel comments into database
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337197@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Does anyone have any code or ideas on how to strip comments from an Excel
spreadsheet and load them into an Access DB? I vaguely recall seeing some
code once upon a time but I can't recall where. TIA
Jim

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From chris at piasd.org  Wed Oct 20 12:14:48 2004
From: chris at piasd.org (Chris Kettenbach)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:14:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Load Excel comments into database
Message-ID: <2F7BA03C93D17D48B13C42228C8FDAF27855E2@server.domain.local>

Just get a reference to the spreadsheet and loop through the comments collections.  Then you run INSERT queries or ADO.AddNew or something and insert them in. Hopes this helps.
CK

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Subject: [AccessD] Load Excel comments into database


Does anyone have any code or ideas on how to strip comments from an Excel
spreadsheet and load them into an Access DB? I vaguely recall seeing some
code once upon a time but I can't recall where. TIA
Jim

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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Wed Oct 20 12:22:44 2004
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:22:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: (Cross posted) VSS and VB6
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB0865318D59@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

When you copy the project files to a new folder, omit the mssccprj.scc
and vssver.scc files.  
Make sure to right click on the files in Windows Explorer and uncheck
the read only flag. 


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Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 10:15 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] OT: (Cross posted) VSS and VB6


Hi all,

   I have a VB6 project where I would like to make a copy of the project
files that is detached from Visual Source Safe, while leaving the
original project alone.  In Access, I can compact a copy of an mdb to do
that, but when I make a copy of my VB files, they seem to still affect
my VSS project.
How can I do this?

Thanks,

Mark Whittinghill
Symphony Information Services
763-391-7400
mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com


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From mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com  Wed Oct 20 13:02:05 2004
From: mwhittinghill at symphonyinfo.com (Mark Whittinghill)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:02:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: (Cross posted) VSS and VB6
References: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB0865318D59@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <001401c4b6ce$ea0411f0$2601a8c0@Symphony.local>

Thanks, Brett.  I figured it was easy like that, but I didn't want to risk
messing things up as I experimented.

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: (Cross posted) VSS and VB6


> When you copy the project files to a new folder, omit the mssccprj.scc
> and vssver.scc files.
> Make sure to right click on the files in Windows Explorer and uncheck
> the read only flag.
>
>
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> Subject: [AccessD] OT: (Cross posted) VSS and VB6
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>    I have a VB6 project where I would like to make a copy of the project
> files that is detached from Visual Source Safe, while leaving the
> original project alone.  In Access, I can compact a copy of an mdb to do
> that, but when I make a copy of my VB files, they seem to still affect
> my VSS project.
> How can I do this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Whittinghill
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> 763-391-7400
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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Wed Oct 20 15:50:18 2004
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:50:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
Message-ID: <002c01c4b6e6$68807980$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web application.

Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?

Thanks,
Barb Ryan

From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Oct 20 15:53:51 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:53:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Load Excel comments into database
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233719B@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Sounds like a plan to me. Thanks
Jim Hale

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Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 12:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Load Excel comments into database


Just get a reference to the spreadsheet and loop through the comments
collections.  Then you run INSERT queries or ADO.AddNew or something and
insert them in. Hopes this helps.
CK

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Subject: [AccessD] Load Excel comments into database


Does anyone have any code or ideas on how to strip comments from an Excel
spreadsheet and load them into an Access DB? I vaguely recall seeing some
code once upon a time but I can't recall where. TIA
Jim

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 20 19:48:06 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:48:06 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
References: <002c01c4b6e6$68807980$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <41770746.2090304@shaw.ca>

If you are using essentially static data, MYSQL is fine, However if you 
are using
a lot of transactions go with SQL Server. The reason MYSQL 5.0 version
has stored procedures and yet to be implemented triggers but this 
version is still in Alpha.
Access goes fine to MySQL with ODBC and ADO or linked tables
The InnoDB storage engine has to be installed as well if you want to 
maintain referential integrity.

For more info and Tools.

How to import Excel, Access or XML data into MySQL database by using a 
MySQL Client Tool  Navicat?
http://www.stardeveloper.com/articles/display.html?article=2003101901&page=1

Toad? for MySQL  Preview Release
http://www.quest.com/ToadMySQL/index.asp

MySQL? Connector/ODBC
http://www.mysql.com/products/connector/odbc/

To be used with this
MySQL Manual | 22.1.11 MyODBC and Microsoft Access
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/MSAccess.html
MySQL Manual | 22.1.11.1 How to Set Up Microsoft Access to Work with 
MySQL using MyODBC?
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/MSAccess_Setup.html

Barbara Ryan wrote:

>Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web application.
>
>Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
>
>Thanks,
>Barb Ryan
>  
>

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Canada





From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Oct 20 23:06:05 2004
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:06:05 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Question for the Aussies (Or anyone who cares)
Message-ID: <200410210406.i9L46GXH026212@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hello all
A question for the Aussies or ate least those who have had a hand in
developing 
dbs that deal with the Aussie TAX system
 
I am after any dB that deals with GST, BAS, BAS Statements, preserved
amounts yadda yadda yadda 
 
Anyone got anything like it I can look at or they are willing to share or
even sell?
 
many thanks
 
See y'all
 
Darren
 


From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Wed Oct 20 10:36:10 2004
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:36:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] RE: Access 2002 hassles with DoCmd object
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188064331E9@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi

Yet again having problems with this.  I have a simple DDL query that works
fine when run normally, i.e. you double-click it from the database window.

However, I'm trying to run it programatically using the following statement:
DoCmd.OpenQuery "qryIndex".  I'm given the message warning me that I'm about
to run a query that could alter the DB etc., but then nothing happens.

The query is a simple CREATE INDEX statement that's creating an index on two
fields in a table.

Am I doing something fundamentally stupid here?  Yet again, any help greatly
appreciated!

Many thanks
Tom Bolton
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 21 03:06:17 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:06:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
In-Reply-To: <002c01c4b6e6$68807980$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
References: <002c01c4b6e6$68807980$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <263463650.20041021100617@cactus.dk>

Hi Barbara

> Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.
> They currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web application.

> Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?

I did a custom frontend which moves data between a MySQL database and
an Access database. It worked as expected using ODBC connection to
MySQL.
In addition to Marty's comments, have in mind that MySQL runs on
nearly everything - Windows, Linux, even Novell.

/gustav



From william.thompson1 at att.net  Thu Oct 21 04:23:46 2004
From: william.thompson1 at att.net (William Thompson)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:23:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD]  Is there a fast way to set up an .mdb with security
In-Reply-To: <263463650.20041021100617@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200410210923.i9L9NsL03096@databaseadvisors.com>

Is there a fast way to set up security for a workgroup, say by grabbing a
table from a master with aliases and an access level code, and grant access
to the .mdb en masse?

Most of the .mdb's that need security contain pass-through queries to SQL
server.

Any comments, suggestions appreciated.  I haven't had much experience doing
this particular task.

Bill Thompson




From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Oct 21 10:52:32 2004
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:52:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft ODBC for Oracle Password Change
Message-ID: <aea6c4950410210852344dce3d@mail.gmail.com>

I have been using the Microsoft ODBC for Oracle Driver version 2 build
2.573.6200.00 for a few years to access Oracle 8 and 9 databases on a
read only basis. All was well until the Oracle DBA's decided - or were
forced to due to Sarbaine/Oxley legislation - make the passwords
expire on a periodic basis on the Oracle user account that is used for
the ODBC connection. The ODBC driver I am currently using doesn't seem
to have the ability to allow the password to be changed, it just fires
an error message window when the expired password is encountered.

ODBC-call failed. Error ORA-28001: the password has expired 

The users could access the acount through SQL+ or another Oracle
terminal tool like SQL Navigator or TOAD but that would be considered
another security risk, so they don't want to provide any of those
tools to the users. They want the users themselves to be able to
change the passwords so that only they will know what the password is
for their account.

Anybody run into this or have any ideas? 

-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com


From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 21 11:37:45 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:37:45 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft ODBC for Oracle Password Change
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950410210852344dce3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aea6c4950410210852344dce3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <11334152208.20041021183745@cactus.dk>

Hi Gary

Couldn't you try to open a connection to the database?
Pick the connect string from one of the tables and add a leading
"ODBC;":

  strConnect = "ODBC;" & tdf.Connect

  Set wrk = DAO.CreateWorkspace("wrkVerify", vbNullString, vbNullString, dbUseODBC)
  ' Open ODBC connection for read/write using the connection string.
  Set cnn = wrk.OpenConnection("cnnVerify", dbDriverNoPrompt, False, strConnect)
  ' If this fails, username and/or password may be wrong.
  ' Prompt for these.
  Set cnn = wrk.OpenConnection("cnnVerify", dbDriverPrompt, False, strConnect)
  ' If this succeeds, save the connect string and use it to relink
  ' the tables.
  ' Update connection information.
  strConnect = cnn.Connect

This is DAO. You could probably do something similar with ADO.
You will, of course, need to add code to catch and handle errors.

/gustav


> I have been using the Microsoft ODBC for Oracle Driver version 2 build
> 2.573.6200.00 for a few years to access Oracle 8 and 9 databases on a
> read only basis. All was well until the Oracle DBA's decided - or were
> forced to due to Sarbaine/Oxley legislation - make the passwords
> expire on a periodic basis on the Oracle user account that is used for
> the ODBC connection. The ODBC driver I am currently using doesn't seem
> to have the ability to allow the password to be changed, it just fires
> an error message window when the expired password is encountered.

> ODBC-call failed. Error ORA-28001: the password has expired 

> The users could access the acount through SQL+ or another Oracle
> terminal tool like SQL Navigator or TOAD but that would be considered
> another security risk, so they don't want to provide any of those
> tools to the users. They want the users themselves to be able to
> change the passwords so that only they will know what the password is
> for their account.

> Anybody run into this or have any ideas? 

> -- 
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com



From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Oct 21 11:52:58 2004
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:52:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft ODBC for Oracle Password Change
In-Reply-To: <11334152208.20041021183745@cactus.dk>
References: <aea6c4950410210852344dce3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<11334152208.20041021183745@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <aea6c49504102109524fe52940@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Gustav. I will give that a try. 

Gary


On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:37:45 +0200, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Gary
> 
> Couldn't you try to open a connection to the database?
> Pick the connect string from one of the tables and add a leading
> "ODBC;":
> 
>  strConnect = "ODBC;" & tdf.Connect
> 
>  Set wrk = DAO.CreateWorkspace("wrkVerify", vbNullString, vbNullString, dbUseODBC)
>  ' Open ODBC connection for read/write using the connection string.
>  Set cnn = wrk.OpenConnection("cnnVerify", dbDriverNoPrompt, False, strConnect)
>  ' If this fails, username and/or password may be wrong.
>  ' Prompt for these.
>  Set cnn = wrk.OpenConnection("cnnVerify", dbDriverPrompt, False, strConnect)
>  ' If this succeeds, save the connect string and use it to relink
>  ' the tables.
>  ' Update connection information.
>  strConnect = cnn.Connect
> 
> This is DAO. You could probably do something similar with ADO.
> You will, of course, need to add code to catch and handle errors.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > I have been using the Microsoft ODBC for Oracle Driver version 2 build
> > 2.573.6200.00 for a few years to access Oracle 8 and 9 databases on a
> > read only basis. All was well until the Oracle DBA's decided - or were
> > forced to due to Sarbaine/Oxley legislation - make the passwords
> > expire on a periodic basis on the Oracle user account that is used for
> > the ODBC connection. The ODBC driver I am currently using doesn't seem
> > to have the ability to allow the password to be changed, it just fires
> > an error message window when the expired password is encountered.
> 
> > ODBC-call failed. Error ORA-28001: the password has expired
> 
> > The users could access the acount through SQL+ or another Oracle
> > terminal tool like SQL Navigator or TOAD but that would be considered
> > another security risk, so they don't want to provide any of those
> > tools to the users. They want the users themselves to be able to
> > change the passwords so that only they will know what the password is
> > for their account.
> 
> > Anybody run into this or have any ideas?
> 
> > --
> > Gary Kjos
> > garykjos at gmail.com
> 
> --
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From accma at sympatico.ca  Thu Oct 21 12:06:55 2004
From: accma at sympatico.ca (accma at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:06:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Form design question
Message-ID: <20041021170655.ZJXI27476.tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net@mxmta.bellnexxia.net>

Hi all,

I'm wondering if it's possible to have multiple sections in a forms like in a report.  I don't exactly know how to explane this so I'll demontrate it as best as I can.  On a form, I want to display all the products available.  That form would be the order entry form.  What I would like to do is put multiple column like this : product #, qt, price, product #, qt, price, product #, qt, price.  The second and third "product #, qt, price" would be the continuing of the first column.

Is this even possible and if so, how can I do this?

Tanks!

Annie



From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Oct 21 12:13:58 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:13:58 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Import specification - how to distribute?
Message-ID: <83210-2200410421171358849@christopherhawkins.com>

I'm building a feature for a client that requires me to come up with
an import specification for the files they'll be pulling into the
system.  Problem is, I have no idea how the import spec is stored,
and therefore no idea how to distribute it to my client when I
deliver the .mdb files.  

Is the import spec in the registry?  In an .ini file someplace?  Is
it in the .mdb itself?  I'm clueless.  Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp...

-Christopher-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Oct 21 12:38:49 2004
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:38:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Import specification - how to distribute?
In-Reply-To: <83210-2200410421171358849@christopherhawkins.com>
References: <83210-2200410421171358849@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c49504102110386cf7d8a1@mail.gmail.com>

It's in hidden tables in the mdb. Change the Option to display hidden
and system tables in a database that has at least one and you will see
the tables - there are two of them, on for the specification "header"
and another for the "item details".


On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:13:58 -0600, Christopher Hawkins
<clh at christopherhawkins.com> wrote:
> I'm building a feature for a client that requires me to come up with
> an import specification for the files they'll be pulling into the
> system.  Problem is, I have no idea how the import spec is stored,
> and therefore no idea how to distribute it to my client when I
> deliver the .mdb files.
> 
> Is the import spec in the registry?  In an .ini file someplace?  Is
> it in the .mdb itself?  I'm clueless.  Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp...
> 
> -Christopher-
> Respectfully,
> 
> Christopher Hawkins
> Software Developer
> (559) 687-7591
> http://www.christopherhawkins.com
> 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 21 12:45:46 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:45:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Form design question
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B00@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It sounds like you want a continuous form.  Forms don't have column
layouts like reports, and I don't understand what you mean by the second
and third ... Would be the continuing of the first column.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: accma at sympatico.ca [mailto:accma at sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:07 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Form design question


Hi all,

I'm wondering if it's possible to have multiple sections in a forms like
in a report.  I don't exactly know how to explane this so I'll
demontrate it as best as I can.  On a form, I want to display all the
products available.  That form would be the order entry form.  What I
would like to do is put multiple column like this : product #, qt,
price, product #, qt, price, product #, qt, price.  The second and third
"product #, qt, price" would be the continuing of the first column.

Is this even possible and if so, how can I do this?

Tanks!

Annie

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 21 12:47:31 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:47:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Import specification - how to distribute?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B01@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Import specs are stored in the mdb file in two system tables
MSysIMEXColumns and MSysIMEXSpecs.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:14 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Import specification - how to distribute?


I'm building a feature for a client that requires me to come up with an
import specification for the files they'll be pulling into the system.
Problem is, I have no idea how the import spec is stored, and therefore
no idea how to distribute it to my client when I deliver the .mdb files.


Is the import spec in the registry?  In an .ini file someplace?  Is it
in the .mdb itself?  I'm clueless.  Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp...

-Christopher-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com  Thu Oct 21 12:56:56 2004
From: Mark.Mitsules at ngc.com (Mitsules, Mark S. (Newport News))
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:56:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Import specification - how to distribute?
Message-ID: <BA209D7D3A20BE499AB726E4ED7A6DA1FCB80E@nprdex02.nns.com>

I had to do this type of documentation for a government project.  Since the
documentation already included screenshots of the user interface, I saw no
problem with including simple screenshots of the Import Specifications.


Mark




-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:14 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Import specification - how to distribute?


I'm building a feature for a client that requires me to come up with
an import specification for the files they'll be pulling into the
system.  Problem is, I have no idea how the import spec is stored,
and therefore no idea how to distribute it to my client when I
deliver the .mdb files.  

Is the import spec in the registry?  In an .ini file someplace?  Is
it in the .mdb itself?  I'm clueless.  Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp...

-Christopher-
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Oct 21 13:20:48 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:20:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] From Main form to Subform (XP)
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4384B42B@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I have a main form (frmMSBByTaskNo) and a subform (frmSortTaskNo).  I
have placed a combo-box drop down on the main form intending to navigate
to the subform and to the selected record in my little drop-down box.  I
am not getting an error, but sure am not getting any action.  This is my
code:

Private Sub cboGoToTaskNo_AfterUpdate()
     Forms!frmMSBByTaskNo!frmSortTaskNo.Form!txtTaskNumber.SetFocus
     DoCmd.FindRecord Forms("frmMSBbyTaskNo")!cboGoToTaskNo.Column(0), ,
True, , True, , True
End Sub

I put the little brown mark on the code and watched it go through locals
and did a check to make sure that cboGoToTaskNo.Column(0) was returning
the correct value and it is.  The subform is a continuous form.

Is there a better way to do this, i.e., one that works?  


From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Thu Oct 21 14:16:29 2004
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:16:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Empty and fill tables
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188064331E9@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <AMEDIDMAFJBGBGHMOEAECEPMEBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hello to the list,

I have an app that uses linked/attached tables thru ODBC.
When I created the original, I wrote a routine to empty an Access table with
info from the corresponding linked table. This because I felt that I wanted
to not impact the program which uses the table which I was linking to.
The non-Access linked tables are linked to the F End. The Access tables I
fill are in the back end.
This "empty and fill" operation always took awhile but recently jumped to 59
minutes.
Five tables -  one over 106,000 record.
A version 2K

Code - - -
EMPTY - -
Dim strSQL As String

DoCmd.Hourglass True
DoCmd.SetWarnings False
strSQL = "Delete * From tblTransactions"

DoCmd.RunSQL (strSQL)

FILL - -

Dim strSQL As String

DoCmd.Hourglass True
DoCmd.SetWarnings False
strSQL = "Insert into tblTransactions Select * From pMWTRN"

DoCmd.RunSQL (strSQL)


DoCmd.Hourglass False
DoCmd.SetWarnings True

My question:
Can I do this faster/better?


TIA,

Bob





From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Thu Oct 21 14:37:48 2004
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Donald [ITS])
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:37:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Empty and fill tables
Message-ID: <988E2AC88CCB54459286C4077DB662F501FCE3F3@PDAWB03C.ad.sprint.com>

Bob,

I don't know if my experience is relevant to your situation, but I too
have a process which imports records into a temp table.  I was loading
data from text files (10,000 to 60,000 records at a time) summarizing
the data, purging, and repeating.  I noticed similar performance
degradation over time, and traced it to db bloat.  My solution
(suggested by Gustav) was to shift the temp tables to a separate back
end, of which I made two copies - TempTables.mdb and
TempTablesTemplate.mdb.  Then at the end of each processing cycle I
included code to kill TempTables.mdb and copy TempTablesTemplate.mdb in
its place.  This ensures that the temp tables always start fresh for
each processing cycle and the bloat problem disappears.  Just make sure
that no processes or db objects have a lock on the tables in
TempTables.mdb when you run the kill and replace part.

Hope this helps

Don McGillivray

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Empty and fill tables


Hello to the list,

I have an app that uses linked/attached tables thru ODBC.
When I created the original, I wrote a routine to empty an Access table
with
info from the corresponding linked table. This because I felt that I
wanted
to not impact the program which uses the table which I was linking to.
The non-Access linked tables are linked to the F End. The Access tables
I
fill are in the back end.
This "empty and fill" operation always took awhile but recently jumped
to 59
minutes.
Five tables -  one over 106,000 record.
A version 2K

Code - - -
EMPTY - -
Dim strSQL As String

DoCmd.Hourglass True
DoCmd.SetWarnings False
strSQL = "Delete * From tblTransactions"

DoCmd.RunSQL (strSQL)

FILL - -

Dim strSQL As String

DoCmd.Hourglass True
DoCmd.SetWarnings False
strSQL = "Insert into tblTransactions Select * From pMWTRN"

DoCmd.RunSQL (strSQL)


DoCmd.Hourglass False
DoCmd.SetWarnings True

My question:
Can I do this faster/better?


TIA,

Bob



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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Thu Oct 21 14:52:31 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:52:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Go to a new record on a subform on a tab control
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738FC@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I have a main form (frmAllData) that contains a tab control.  So far there
are two tabs on the control - Peopleform and frmCallData.

PeopleForm and frmAllData are both bound to the same table (People).  I have
a combo box (cboFindPeople) on frmAllData that looks for someone on
PeopleForm.  

Then frmCallData contains all the calls associated with the person found.

If a person's name is input into cboFindPeople and that person is not in the
database, I want a yes/no message box to pop up and if the user decides to
add the person, I want to set peopleform on the tab control to add and then
I want to populate the FName, LName, and ContactPerson controls with the
information in cboFindPeople.

 

I think I can populate the controls if I can just get to the subform on the
tab control and set the form to add.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Oct 21 16:29:23 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:29:23 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?
Message-ID: <302020-2200410421212923655@christopherhawkins.com>

I am in deep dip.

Here's the situation:  I have a form that is throwing the following
error when I click any button, the close button included:

A problem occurred while Microsoft Office Access was communicating
with the OLE server or Active X control.

Now, I'm not doing anything with OLE servers or Active X controls. 
It's just a plain ol' form bound to a table.  But any buttons I click
bring up this error - the button code does not execute.

I don't even know where to start troubleshooting.  I've been Googling
the error, but am not finding much.  Has anyone seen this?
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Oct 21 16:31:21 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:31:21 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?
Message-ID: <213200-2200410421213121188@christopherhawkins.com>

I am in deep dip.

Here's the situation:  I have a form that is throwing the following
error when I click any button, the close button included:

A problem occurred while Microsoft Office Access was communicating
with the OLE server or Active X control.

Now, I'm not doing anything with OLE servers or Active X controls. 
It's just a plain ol' form bound to a table.  But any buttons I click
bring up this error - the button code does not execute.

I don't even know where to start troubleshooting.  I've been Googling
the error, but am not finding much.  Has anyone seen this?
Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Oct 21 17:11:42 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:11:42 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B06@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Yep, you're in trouble.  Open the MDB bypassing any autoexec and go into
the VB IDE and compile the project.  Access is losing track of it's own
controls and container objects.  You may have to create a new database
and import everything from the old one.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:29 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?


I am in deep dip.

Here's the situation:  I have a form that is throwing the following
error when I click any button, the close button included:

A problem occurred while Microsoft Office Access was communicating with
the OLE server or Active X control.

Now, I'm not doing anything with OLE servers or Active X controls. 
It's just a plain ol' form bound to a table.  But any buttons I click
bring up this error - the button code does not execute.

I don't even know where to start troubleshooting.  I've been Googling
the error, but am not finding much.  Has anyone seen this? Respectfully,

Christopher Hawkins
Software Developer
(559) 687-7591
http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From chizotz at mchsi.com  Thu Oct 21 17:22:44 2004
From: chizotz at mchsi.com (chizotz at mchsi.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:22:44 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] parameterized query misbehavior
Message-ID: <102120042222.1853.412@mchsi.com>

I don't use Access as much as I used to, and I think this may be my first 
attempt to use a parameterized query for a report since being upgraded to 
Access 2003 (from Access 97).

I have a report based on a parametertized query that asks the user to enter a 
Monday date and a Sunday date to select records between the two dates. I've 
done this a jillion times or so in the past with no problems.

When I set up the query, I kept getting the error "The Microsoft Jet Engine 
does not recognize [What Monday Date?] as a valid field or expression". I 
solved that by explicitly defining the parameters and the datatype. I would 
have done that anyway, but I've never had to do that just to get it work 
before. So now in query design, when I run the query it prompts me correctly 
and displays the data as expected.

Then I go to make my report and the wretched thing keeps prompting me over and 
over, while in design mode, for the damn parameters. I don't mean to sound 
like a prima donna, but I really can't work under these conditions :)

I've done this sort of thing many, many times in the past and I never gotten 
prompted for the parameters in design mode, and only once when running the 
report each time for testing. When I run the report, it runs through the 
prompting process twice before displaying the report.

What the heck is going on? If I'm doing something wrong I sure don't know what 
it is, and the MS help is, as usual, somewhat less than helpful.

Thanks for any response.

Ron



From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Oct 21 23:02:15 2004
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:02:15 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?
Message-ID: <161680-22004105224215980@christopherhawkins.com>

I ended up deleting the offending form, decompiled, recompiled,
compact & repaired, and the built the form over from scratch.  Voila!
No more problems.

-C-

---- Original Message ----
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com, 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:11:42 -0700

>Yep, you're in trouble.  Open the MDB bypassing any autoexec and go 
>into
>the VB IDE and compile the project.  Access is losing track of it's 
>own
>controls and container objects.  You may have to create a new 
>database
>and import everything from the old one.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com] 
>Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:29 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?
>
>
>I am in deep dip.
>
>Here's the situation:  I have a form that is throwing the following
>error when I click any button, the close button included:
>
>A problem occurred while Microsoft Office Access was communicating 
>with
>the OLE server or Active X control.
>
>Now, I'm not doing anything with OLE servers or Active X controls. 
>It's just a plain ol' form bound to a table.  But any buttons I click
>bring up this error - the button code does not execute.
>
>I don't even know where to start troubleshooting.  I've been Googling
>the error, but am not finding much.  Has anyone seen this? 
>Respectfully,
>
>Christopher Hawkins
>Software Developer
>(559) 687-7591
>http://www.christopherhawkins.com
>
>
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 22 01:16:34 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 23:16:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
Message-ID: <20041022061634.57309.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From viner at EUnet.yu  Fri Oct 22 03:15:31 2004
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:15:31 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Samples
Message-ID: <001001c4b80f$6358ca00$0100a8c0@razvoj>

Great samples, in Polish

www.bratki.w.v1.pl

www.Access.vis.pl


From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 22 04:30:11 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:30:11 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Samples
In-Reply-To: <001001c4b80f$6358ca00$0100a8c0@razvoj>
References: <001001c4b80f$6358ca00$0100a8c0@razvoj>
Message-ID: <6810753703.20041022113011@cactus.dk>

Hi Ervin

Well, thanks, but except for "System Kolors" these are as close to
dark talk as I can imagine ...

/gustav


> Great samples, in Polish

> www.bratki.w.v1.pl

> www.Access.vis.pl



From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Fri Oct 22 04:49:48 2004
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:49:48 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Useful Samples
Message-ID: <EAF3070ACB1AD81182280002A51EF7311922EE@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

Very attractive sites, Gustav. What a pity (for me) they're not in English.
Cheers paul 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: 22 October 2004 10:30
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Useful Samples


Hi Ervin

Well, thanks, but except for "System Kolors" these are as close to
dark talk as I can imagine ...

/gustav


> Great samples, in Polish

> www.bratki.w.v1.pl

> www.Access.vis.pl

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Oct 22 07:06:11 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:06:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C7448691D@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Two ways that I know of
:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   dim colItem As Variant
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = cDO.TableNames
   For Each colItem in oColl
	debug.print colItem
   Next
   Set oColl = nothing
End Sub

or

Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   Dim i As Integer
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = cDO.TableNames

   For i = 1 To oColl.Count
	debug.print oColl.Item(i)
   Next i
   Set oColl = nothing
End Sub

HTH

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 2:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Oct 22 12:16:30 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:16:30 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Go to a new record on a subform on a tab control
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE738FC@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
Message-ID: <003701c4b85a$dfcf51d0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Susan, not sure if this is what you're asking but you refer to a subform on
a tab control just the same as any other. So the syntax is something like
(if you're on main form):

Me!subformControl.Form. Etc

Where subformControl refers to the name of the control containing the
subform not the name of the subform itself (if you see what I mean). So, for
example:

Me!subformControl.Form.AllowAdditions=True

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
> Sent: 21 October 2004 20:53
> To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: [AccessD] Go to a new record on a subform on a tab control
> 
> 
> I have a main form (frmAllData) that contains a tab control.  
> So far there are two tabs on the control - Peopleform and frmCallData.
> 
> PeopleForm and frmAllData are both bound to the same table 
> (People).  I have a combo box (cboFindPeople) on frmAllData 
> that looks for someone on PeopleForm.  
> 
> Then frmCallData contains all the calls associated with the 
> person found.
> 
> If a person's name is input into cboFindPeople and that 
> person is not in the database, I want a yes/no message box to 
> pop up and if the user decides to add the person, I want to 
> set peopleform on the tab control to add and then I want to 
> populate the FName, LName, and ContactPerson controls with 
> the information in cboFindPeople.
> 
>  
> 
> I think I can populate the controls if I can just get to the 
> subform on the tab control and set the form to add.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
>  
> 
> Susan Klos
> 
> Senior Database Analyst
> 
> Evaluation and Reporting
> 
> Florida Department of Education
> 
> 850-245-0708 
> 
> sc 205-0708
> 
>  
> 
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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Fri Oct 22 14:24:46 2004
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 15:24:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
Message-ID: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts / suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan


**************************************************************************************************************************
Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO Technical or Quick CAD that 
are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development of a 
table architecture or data model?  

I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for 
drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier to use than 
wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword document. 

Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community uses. 


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 22 19:25:16 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:25:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
References: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <4179A4EC.9010403@shaw.ca>

You are probably looking for CASE (Computer Aided System Engineering) Tools.

I have used Enterprise Architect
http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/
 Good for reverse engineering an Access mdb just plug in the mdb or an 
ODBC connection to SQL and it will layout a data model or ER diagram.
Also lays out XSD schemas for tables and queries. Does UML modelling
Probably best in it's price range for diagramming $200. There is trial 
version.

Case Studio is good too. It generates SQL table scripts.
http://www.casestudio.com/enu/

Then you get into the $1000 price range with ER-Win and WinDev
and there are the $10,000 packages  Rose, System Architect, and ARTiSAN,
and probably even higher mainframe packages.Texas Instrument IEF

I saw one about 15 years ago that produced good Cobol Code but none 
since then.
So dont believe any code generation hype with Case Tools.

Barbara Ryan wrote:

>I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts / suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan
>
>
>**************************************************************************************************************************
>Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO Technical or Quick CAD that 
>are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development of a 
>table architecture or data model?  
>
>I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for 
>drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier to use than 
>wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword document. 
>
>Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community uses. 
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Fri Oct 22 20:14:28 2004
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:14:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
References: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
	<4179A4EC.9010403@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <007e01c4b89d$a5071ea0$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

Thanks, Marty....I'll pass on the info..............Barb



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] document development tools


> You are probably looking for CASE (Computer Aided System Engineering)
Tools.
>
> I have used Enterprise Architect
> http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/
>  Good for reverse engineering an Access mdb just plug in the mdb or an
> ODBC connection to SQL and it will layout a data model or ER diagram.
> Also lays out XSD schemas for tables and queries. Does UML modelling
> Probably best in it's price range for diagramming $200. There is trial
> version.
>
> Case Studio is good too. It generates SQL table scripts.
> http://www.casestudio.com/enu/
>
> Then you get into the $1000 price range with ER-Win and WinDev
> and there are the $10,000 packages  Rose, System Architect, and ARTiSAN,
> and probably even higher mainframe packages.Texas Instrument IEF
>
> I saw one about 15 years ago that produced good Cobol Code but none
> since then.
> So dont believe any code generation hype with Case Tools.
>
> Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
> >I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts /
suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan
> >
> >
>
>***************************************************************************
***********************************************
> >Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO
Technical or Quick CAD that
> >are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development
of a
> >table architecture or data model?
> >
> >I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for
> >drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier
to use than
> >wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword
document.
> >
> >Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community
uses.
> >
> >
>
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Oct 22 22:47:40 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:47:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
In-Reply-To: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
References: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <4179D45C.5010603@rogers.com>

Barbara Ryan wrote:

>I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts / suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan
>
>
>**************************************************************************************************************************
>Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO Technical or Quick CAD that 
>are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development of a 
>table architecture or data model?  
>
>I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for 
>drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier to use than 
>wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword document. 
>
>Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community uses. 
>  
>
If Visio is out of the price range, then try DeZign (www.datanamic.com, 
if memory serves -- if not, just google it). Excellent piece of work, 
IMO, and cheap.


From papparuff at comcast.net  Fri Oct 22 23:23:22 2004
From: papparuff at comcast.net (John Ruff)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:23:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
In-Reply-To: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <000001c4b8b8$1035efc0$6401a8c0@papparuff>

Dezign for Databases is an excellent tool for around $229.00.

http://www.datanamic.com/

John V. Ruff - The Eternal Optimist :-) 

"Commit to the Lord whatever you do, 
                and your plans will succeed." Proverbs 16:3 



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Ryan
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Access List
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools


I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts /
suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan


****************************************************************************
**********************************************
Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO
Technical or Quick CAD that 
are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development of
a 
table architecture or data model?  

I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for 
drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier to
use than 
wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword
document. 

Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community uses.

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Oct 24 06:02:30 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:02:30 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
In-Reply-To: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
References: <005f01c4b86c$ca571560$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <1138864386.20041024130230@cactus.dk>

Hi Barbara

Though targeted at MySQL, this - at zero cost - could be useful as
well:

  http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/

and - at little cost:

  http://www.thekompany.com/products/dataarchitect/

/gustav


> I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts / suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan


> **************************************************************************************************************************
> Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO Technical or Quick CAD that 
> are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development of a 
> table architecture or data model?  

> I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for 
> drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier to use than 
> wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword document. 

> Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community uses. 



From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Oct 24 18:58:38 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:58:38 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Question for the Aussies (Or anyone who cares)
References: <200410210406.i9L46GXH026212@cooper.uws.edu.au>
Message-ID: <003201c4ba25$61bb7d10$6401a8c0@user>

Darren - most of my clients use something like MYOB or Cashflow Manager for accounting for BAS, so I haven't needed to do it...

My own database does some calcs for me to produce my own BAS statements - it is fairly straightforward.

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darren DICK 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:06 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] A2K: Question for the Aussies (Or anyone who cares)


  Hello all
  A question for the Aussies or ate least those who have had a hand in
  developing 
  dbs that deal with the Aussie TAX system
   
  I am after any dB that deals with GST, BAS, BAS Statements, preserved
  amounts yadda yadda yadda 
   
  Anyone got anything like it I can look at or they are willing to share or
  even sell?
   
  many thanks
   
  See y'all
   
  Darren
   
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Oct 24 19:01:09 2004
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:01:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?
References: <213200-2200410421213121188@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <006601c4ba25$bbf8fd70$6401a8c0@user>

Christopher - I have definitely had that form error - and I think it related to an icon that I had copied an pasted into an image control. The message is very misleading...

HTH
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Christopher Hawkins 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 7:31 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Troubleshootoing an OLE server error?


  I am in deep dip.

  Here's the situation:  I have a form that is throwing the following
  error when I click any button, the close button included:

  A problem occurred while Microsoft Office Access was communicating
  with the OLE server or Active X control.

  Now, I'm not doing anything with OLE servers or Active X controls. 
  It's just a plain ol' form bound to a table.  But any buttons I click
  bring up this error - the button code does not execute.

  I don't even know where to start troubleshooting.  I've been Googling
  the error, but am not finding much.  Has anyone seen this?
  Respectfully,

  Christopher Hawkins
  Software Developer
  (559) 687-7591
  http://www.christopherhawkins.com


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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Oct 25 09:44:36 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:44:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371B0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I have a database that populates Excel budget spreadsheets from Access
tables and also opens Excel spreadsheets and extracts data. I am using
Office 2000 and DAO 3.6. The code runs flawlessly on my machine. On the
Citrix server, however, the code to extract data from spreadsheets runs fine
but the code to populate spreadsheets tells me that the interface does not
support this operation. References are okay and permissions seem ok since I
can save the spreadsheet (sans the data) through automation. Why automation
works in one direction but not the other is beyond me. Any suggestions? TIA
Jim Hale

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Mon Oct 25 12:24:59 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:24:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: document development tools
In-Reply-To: <200410231700.i9NH0HL14717@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041025122258.03f0f520@pop3.highstream.net>

It really depends on the databases you want to be able to support.

Personally, I use ERWin.  And, unless you are buying a copy off of
EBay, the price is more like 3500 not 1000.

For me the key to using it is the number of databases it supports
because I work with a lot of different ones.

At 12:00 PM 10/23/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Ryan
>Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 12:25 PM
>To: Access List
>Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
>
>
>I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts /
>suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan
>
>
>****************************************************************************
>**********************************************
>Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO
>Technical or Quick CAD that
>are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development of
>a
>table architecture or data model?
>
>I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for
>drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier to
>use than
>wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword
>document.
>
>Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community uses.




From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Mon Oct 25 13:08:27 2004
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:08:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] document development tools
In-Reply-To: <4179A4EC.9010403@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <008001c4babd$a0e1e2c0$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


I have used Artiso Visual Case:

http://www.visualcase.com/

It has good drawing facilities, and it has a native Access .mdb forward and
reverse engineering tool. You can also publish your data model to a
web-based viewer. It also will do UML for objects and object pattern design,
with .NET and Java support.

It sells for about $450 USD for a single user. There is a 30 day free trial.

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 7:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] document development tools


You are probably looking for CASE (Computer Aided System Engineering) Tools.

I have used Enterprise Architect
http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/
 Good for reverse engineering an Access mdb just plug in the mdb or an
ODBC connection to SQL and it will layout a data model or ER diagram.
Also lays out XSD schemas for tables and queries. Does UML modelling
Probably best in it's price range for diagramming $200. There is trial
version.

Case Studio is good too. It generates SQL table scripts.
http://www.casestudio.com/enu/

Then you get into the $1000 price range with ER-Win and WinDev
and there are the $10,000 packages  Rose, System Architect, and ARTiSAN,
and probably even higher mainframe packages.Texas Instrument IEF

I saw one about 15 years ago that produced good Cobol Code but none
since then.
So dont believe any code generation hype with Case Tools.

Barbara Ryan wrote:

>I received the following email from my client ---- any thoughts /
suggestions?.....Thanks, Barb Ryan
>
>
>***************************************************************************
***********************************************
>Do you know of any document development tools, something like VISIO
Technical or Quick CAD that
>are specifically designed to support a tedium free graphical development of
a
>table architecture or data model?
>
>I'm wondering if there is an affordable application out there for
>drafting up table schema's and database design diagrams that is  easier to
use than
>wiring together a bunch of text boxes or flow chart symbols in a MSword
document.
>
>Just curious if you know about somthing that the development community
uses.
>
>

--
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada







From marcus at tsstech.com  Mon Oct 25 13:19:52 2004
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:19:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone know how to use DFS?
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D339E45@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

I'm trying to do a server consolidation and would like to remap unc
paths to a different server. I believe DFS can do this but am unsure how
this is done. Can anyone help?

Scott Marcus 



From mmmtbig at bellsouth.net  Mon Oct 25 13:48:16 2004
From: mmmtbig at bellsouth.net (Myke Myers)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:48:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Memory Leak in DAO?
Message-ID: <00d901c4bac3$309c3870$6501a8c0@tbig1>

Does anyone see why the sub procedure below would result in an out of memory
condition when run about 100 times in a loop?


    Public Sub ExecuteActionQuery(strQueryName As String)

    Dim db As Database
    Dim qdf As QueryDef

    Set db = CurrentDb
    Set qdf = db.QueryDefs(strQueryName)
    qdf.Execute

    Set qdf = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing
    
    Exit Sub



TIA

Myke




From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Oct 25 14:20:36 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:20:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Memory Leak in DAO?
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371B4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

try qdf.close before you set qdf=nothing
Jum Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Myke Myers [mailto:mmmtbig at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 1:48 PM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Memory Leak in DAO?


Does anyone see why the sub procedure below would result in an out of memory
condition when run about 100 times in a loop?


    Public Sub ExecuteActionQuery(strQueryName As String)

    Dim db As Database
    Dim qdf As QueryDef

    Set db = CurrentDb
    Set qdf = db.QueryDefs(strQueryName)
    qdf.Execute

    Set qdf = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing
    
    Exit Sub



TIA

Myke


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From greggs at msn.com  Mon Oct 25 15:58:51 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:58:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371B0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
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Jim,

We've had similar problems.  Terminal Services uses the console to open office objects from code interactively.  We got around it by always having the console logged in (not pretty just works).  If you still have problems you might try adjusting your DCOMCNFG to allow interactive access and launch permissions.
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  Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:44 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel


  I have a database that populates Excel budget spreadsheets from Access
  tables and also opens Excel spreadsheets and extracts data. I am using
  Office 2000 and DAO 3.6. The code runs flawlessly on my machine. On the
  Citrix server, however, the code to extract data from spreadsheets runs fine
  but the code to populate spreadsheets tells me that the interface does not
  support this operation. References are okay and permissions seem ok since I
  can save the spreadsheet (sans the data) through automation. Why automation
  works in one direction but not the other is beyond me. Any suggestions? TIA
  Jim Hale

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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Mon Oct 25 16:47:46 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:47:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A266@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

I have the following field in a query that makes a table.
Date: Format((CDate(Forms![frm Select Date]!selected_date)),"Short
Date")
When I open up the table I see a short date
When I export the table to a csv type file I get both the date and the
time.
How do I get only the date into the csv file?

Chester Kaup
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IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Oct 25 17:17:11 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:17:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D028@main2.marlow.com>

What I prefer to do is create a count and Info property for the class:

So if I have a SomeObject class, and I have a SomeObjects Class, I would
have something like this:

Dim SomeObjs as Collection
Property get SomeObjectCount() As Long
SomeObjectCount=SomeObjs.Count
End Get
Property Get SomeObjectInfo(intPos) As SomeObject
Set SomeObjectInfo=SomeObjs(val(intPos))
End Property

Lets you loop through the collection then.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate
that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Oct 25 17:24:09 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:24:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem
In-Reply-To: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A266@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>
Message-ID: <417E09A9.3776.7B00635@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 25 Oct 2004 at 16:47, Kaup, Chester A wrote:

> I have the following field in a query that makes a table.
> Date: Format((CDate(Forms![frm Select Date]!selected_date)),"Short
> Date")
> When I open up the table I see a short date
> When I export the table to a csv type file I get both the date and the
> time.
> How do I get only the date into the csv file?
> 

Is the field in the table defined as String or Date/Time? (I just tried 
this in A2K and in my case it did end up as a String)

How are you doing the Export?

Incudentally, it is not good practice to use "Date" as a field name since 
it is a reserved word with a specific meaining in Access. It can bite you 
in all sorts of ways.

-- 
Stuart




From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Oct 25 17:24:58 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:24:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371B8@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Thanks, I'll give it a go
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with
Excel


Jim,

We've had similar problems.  Terminal Services uses the console to open
office objects from code interactively.  We got around it by always having
the console logged in (not pretty just works).  If you still have problems
you might try adjusting your DCOMCNFG to allow interactive access and launch
permissions.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hale, Jim<mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> 
  To: 'Accessd (E-mail)<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:44 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel


  I have a database that populates Excel budget spreadsheets from Access
  tables and also opens Excel spreadsheets and extracts data. I am using
  Office 2000 and DAO 3.6. The code runs flawlessly on my machine. On the
  Citrix server, however, the code to extract data from spreadsheets runs
fine
  but the code to populate spreadsheets tells me that the interface does not
  support this operation. References are okay and permissions seem ok since
I
  can save the spreadsheet (sans the data) through automation. Why
automation
  works in one direction but not the other is beyond me. Any suggestions?
TIA
  Jim Hale

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Oct 25 19:39:04 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:39:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem
In-Reply-To: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A266@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEHACHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Chester:

The real date in the table is stored Microsoft date format: i.e.
351235.12343. Its' display format can be very different from the real date
and sometimes Access assists by assigning it's own date format
recommendation when certain function are being used. I have found it is
sometimes better to create a field, format the field and then export the
contents from/through a query rather than directly from a table.

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
A
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 2:48 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem


I have the following field in a query that makes a table.
Date: Format((CDate(Forms![frm Select Date]!selected_date)),"Short
Date")
When I open up the table I see a short date
When I export the table to a csv type file I get both the date and the
time.
How do I get only the date into the csv file?

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415
Outside 432-687-7415

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 26 03:46:17 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:46:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; Export to flatfile
Message-ID: <20041026084617.97636.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I've got 2 questions.
First question:
I need to create a table using a UNION query. How can I do this? 
 
Second question:
I need to create a TAB-delimited flatfile using the table created above. How do I do that?
 
Tia!!
 
VS
PS I'm using A2K
 

		
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Oct 26 04:26:41 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:26:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; Export to flatfile
In-Reply-To: <20041026084617.97636.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <417EA4F1.31933.A0E9003@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 26 Oct 2004 at 1:46, S D wrote:

> Hi group,
>  
> I've got 2 questions.
> First question:
> I need to create a table using a UNION query. How can I do this? 
>  

Something like:

SELECT  INTO newtable
FROM
(Select * from table1
UNION
Select * from table2);

> Second question:
> I need to create a TAB-delimited flatfile using the table created above. How do I do that?
>  

I prefer to build my own text files using VBA. In DAO, something like:

Function BuildCSV() as Long
Dim rs as DAO.Recordset
Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset("NewTable")
Open "myFile.CSV" for Output As #1
While not rs.eof
    Print #1, rs(0) & chr$(9) & rs(1) & chr$(9) & rs(2).....
    rs.MoveNext
Wend
rs.Close
Close #1
End Function

You can mess around with the "Print #" line to format your output exactly 
the way you want it.



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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Oct 26 04:40:56 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:40:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; Export to flatfile
In-Reply-To: <20041026084617.97636.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041026084617.97636.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1210331495.20041026114056@cactus.dk>

Hi S

> First question:
> I need to create a table using a UNION query. How can I do this?

Create a union query, then use that as source for the append/create
query.
 
> Second question:
> I need to create a TAB-delimited flatfile using the table created above. How do I do that?
 
Create a query something like this:

  SELECT
    Field1,
    Field2
  INTO
    [Text;Database=C:\Windows\Temp].[YourFile.txt]
  FROM
    YourTable;

Before running this, create (or modify) the file schema.ini in the
destination folder:

[YourFile.txt]
ColNameHeader=False
CharacterSet=ANSI
Format=TabDelimited
Col1=Field1 Char Width 50
Col2=Field2 Char Width 50

The output file (YourFile.txt) must not exist before you run the
query.
As you can see, you may not need the temp table at all; use the union
query as source when creating the text file.

For more into on schema.ini file syntax, look here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odbc/htm/odbcjetschema_ini_file.asp

/gustav



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Oct 26 07:01:50 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:01:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C7448695C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Drew,

You're making the assumption that the collection has already been
populated when you add a Count method to the class.  In the attached
code it's being filled when TableNames is called so a call to a count
method could be inaccurate (although a return of 0 or an error would
tell you the collection hadn't been filled).  

Also, why bother writing this method when the returned collection
already has a built in count that can be called from any variable
assigned to the class method?

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection

What I prefer to do is create a count and Info property for the class:

So if I have a SomeObject class, and I have a SomeObjects Class, I would
have something like this:

Dim SomeObjs as Collection
Property get SomeObjectCount() As Long
SomeObjectCount=SomeObjs.Count
End Get
Property Get SomeObjectInfo(intPos) As SomeObject Set
SomeObjectInfo=SomeObjs(val(intPos))
End Property

Lets you loop through the collection then.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate
that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Tue Oct 26 07:19:37 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:19:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A267@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

The field in the table is text. I tried date/time and both the date and
the time displayed in the table. The export is dome by the transfertext
method. The reason I used the word date is because the csv file
generated is loaded into another program where the field names need to
match and the field name in that program is date. I solved the problem
by making the date field nine characters. Maybe not the best way but it
chops of the time part of date/time and shows only the date in the csv
file.

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 5:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem


On 25 Oct 2004 at 16:47, Kaup, Chester A wrote:

> I have the following field in a query that makes a table.
> Date: Format((CDate(Forms![frm Select Date]!selected_date)),"Short
> Date")
> When I open up the table I see a short date
> When I export the table to a csv type file I get both the date and the

> time. How do I get only the date into the csv file?
> 

Is the field in the table defined as String or Date/Time? (I just tried 
this in A2K and in my case it did end up as a String)

How are you doing the Export?

Incudentally, it is not good practice to use "Date" as a field name
since 
it is a reserved word with a specific meaining in Access. It can bite
you 
in all sorts of ways.

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From pharold at proftesting.com  Tue Oct 26 09:04:14 2004
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:04:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem
In-Reply-To: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A267@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>
Message-ID: <005501c4bb64$ace18100$082da8c0@D58BT131>

What happens when you have MM/DD/YYYY?  That's 10 char.  The catch is when
it's M/M/YYYY because the time starts at position 10 and you pick up an
extra digit.  

Any dates over 10/9, 11/9 and 12/9 loose the last char of the year when you
use a size of 9.

If you export with code then you could search the field for a space and pick
up just the date portion of the field.

Perry Harold

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester A
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem


The field in the table is text. I tried date/time and both the date and the
time displayed in the table. The export is dome by the transfertext method.
The reason I used the word date is because the csv file generated is loaded
into another program where the field names need to match and the field name
in that program is date. I solved the problem by making the date field nine
characters. Maybe not the best way but it chops of the time part of
date/time and shows only the date in the csv file.

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 5:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem


On 25 Oct 2004 at 16:47, Kaup, Chester A wrote:

> I have the following field in a query that makes a table.
> Date: Format((CDate(Forms![frm Select Date]!selected_date)),"Short
> Date")
> When I open up the table I see a short date
> When I export the table to a csv type file I get both the date and the

> time. How do I get only the date into the csv file?
> 

Is the field in the table defined as String or Date/Time? (I just tried 
this in A2K and in my case it did end up as a String)

How are you doing the Export?

Incudentally, it is not good practice to use "Date" as a field name since 
it is a reserved word with a specific meaining in Access. It can bite you 
in all sorts of ways.

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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 26 09:07:36 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:07:36 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
Message-ID: <2025BB6F17FCB54791F23CD505583328041BCA@starfleet.unknown.local>

Guys,

I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this before but for the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last occurrence of "\" within a file path string. For example if the path was C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return the Hello.doc portion and to do that obviously I need to know what position the last backslash is.

Any ideas?

Vlad


From CMackin at quiznos.com  Tue Oct 26 09:10:31 2004
From: CMackin at quiznos.com (Mackin, Christopher)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:10:31 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
Message-ID: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F066@snowmass.quiznos.net>

InstrRev("C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc", "\")

will get it for you.

-Chris Mackin

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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:08 AM
To: Access Group (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string


Guys,

I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this before but for the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last occurrence of "\" within a file path string. For example if the path was C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return the Hello.doc portion and to do that obviously I need to know what position the last backslash is.

Any ideas?

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From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Tue Oct 26 09:16:56 2004
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:16:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188064331FA@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Vlad

InstrRev function - this counts the first occurrence of a string but
'backwards', i.e. starting at the end...

HTH, Cheers
Tom


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Sent: 26 October 2004 15:08
To: Access Group (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string

Guys,

I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this before but for
the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last occurrence of "\"
within a file path string. For example if the path was
C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return the Hello.doc
portion and to do that obviously I need to know what position the last
backslash is.

Any ideas?

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From actebs at actebs.com.au  Tue Oct 26 09:27:42 2004
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:27:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
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Thanx muchly
Vlad


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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string


InstrRev("C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc", "\")

will get it for you.

-Chris Mackin

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Guys,

I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this before but for the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last occurrence of "\" within a file path string. For example if the path was C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return the Hello.doc portion and to do that obviously I need to know what position the last backslash is.

Any ideas?

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Oct 26 09:43:22 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:43:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel
	*SOLVED"
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Gregg,
Logging into the console worked! Many thanks!
Jim Hale

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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with
Excel


Jim,

We've had similar problems.  Terminal Services uses the console to open
office objects from code interactively.  We got around it by always having
the console logged in (not pretty just works).  If you still have problems
you might try adjusting your DCOMCNFG to allow interactive access and launch
permissions.
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  Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:44 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel


  I have a database that populates Excel budget spreadsheets from Access
  tables and also opens Excel spreadsheets and extracts data. I am using
  Office 2000 and DAO 3.6. The code runs flawlessly on my machine. On the
  Citrix server, however, the code to extract data from spreadsheets runs
fine
  but the code to populate spreadsheets tells me that the interface does not
  support this operation. References are okay and permissions seem ok since
I
  can save the spreadsheet (sans the data) through automation. Why
automation
  works in one direction but not the other is beyond me. Any suggestions?
TIA
  Jim Hale

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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Tue Oct 26 09:48:52 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:48:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A268@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

I am able to get away with it because day field is always 1. I agree
that code would be the best way to do the export. With any luck this
process will go away in a month or two so don't want to spend much time
on it.

Chester Kaup
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Perry Harold
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem


What happens when you have MM/DD/YYYY?  That's 10 char.  The catch is
when it's M/M/YYYY because the time starts at position 10 and you pick
up an extra digit.  

Any dates over 10/9, 11/9 and 12/9 loose the last char of the year when
you use a size of 9.

If you export with code then you could search the field for a space and
pick up just the date portion of the field.

Perry Harold

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A
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem


The field in the table is text. I tried date/time and both the date and
the time displayed in the table. The export is dome by the transfertext
method. The reason I used the word date is because the csv file
generated is loaded into another program where the field names need to
match and the field name in that program is date. I solved the problem
by making the date field nine characters. Maybe not the best way but it
chops of the time part of date/time and shows only the date in the csv
file.

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 5:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem


On 25 Oct 2004 at 16:47, Kaup, Chester A wrote:

> I have the following field in a query that makes a table.
> Date: Format((CDate(Forms![frm Select Date]!selected_date)),"Short
> Date")
> When I open up the table I see a short date
> When I export the table to a csv type file I get both the date and the

> time. How do I get only the date into the csv file?
> 

Is the field in the table defined as String or Date/Time? (I just tried 
this in A2K and in my case it did end up as a String)

How are you doing the Export?

Incudentally, it is not good practice to use "Date" as a field name
since 
it is a reserved word with a specific meaining in Access. It can bite
you 
in all sorts of ways.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 26 09:58:11 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:58:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B13@infoserver01.infostat.local>

InStrRev

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: ACTEBS [mailto:actebs at actebs.com.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:08 AM
To: Access Group (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string


Guys,

I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this before but
for the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last occurrence of
"\" within a file path string. For example if the path was
C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return the Hello.doc
portion and to do that obviously I need to know what position the last
backslash is.

Any ideas?

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From william.thompson1 at att.net  Tue Oct 26 10:00:50 2004
From: william.thompson1 at att.net (William Thompson)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:00:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] why an .mdb won't connect the same way as secure pivot?
In-Reply-To: <EBEA2FA1665EDA40A600D92C87B9B4CE27F066@snowmass.quiznos.net>
Message-ID: <200410261500.i9QF0sL29437@databaseadvisors.com>


Kind of a touchy problem.  A user actually needs a flat file representation
in an .mdb of data that underlies a pivot table.  The .mdb might have to be
a break from tradition and actually be secure at the file level.

We have a pivot table that is sourced to a (row level) secure stored
procedure in SQL Server.  Funny thing is, the .mdb has trouble drawing data
from the same stored procedure.  It seems Excel has a leg up on secure
connections, or stored procedure calls, or something.  I presume ODBC since
that is the driver in the pivot's connection string.

The Pivot's connection string contains a 'call' to the stored procedure, and
though it was a trusted connection - I'm not sure why - but there was also a
user name in the string.  (The user is no longer with the group by the way).
My fear is that it was set up with a clear text password then had another
call added in by the magic of Excel.

Makes it difficult to set up an .mdb when it doesn't grab a connection that
a pivot table is already grabbing.  Trusted connections do not work.

We can't change anything on the back-end.  Any ideas?  It seems to be
looking like a situation where Excel is able to connect in a more secure way
(and we may have to ditch the .mdb idea).  It seemed at the time a logical
thing, using Access to furnish a flat file that could be stored off
securely.  I've tried pass-through queries, ADO connections, to no avail.

Any suggestions?

Bill Thompson



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Oct 26 10:01:51 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:01:51 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B14@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The class Count method would *use* the Count method of the underlying
collection.  An empty collection should return a zero count.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 5:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Drew,

You're making the assumption that the collection has already been
populated when you add a Count method to the class.  In the attached
code it's being filled when TableNames is called so a call to a count
method could be inaccurate (although a return of 0 or an error would
tell you the collection hadn't been filled).  

Also, why bother writing this method when the returned collection
already has a built in count that can be called from any variable
assigned to the class method?

Jim DeMarco

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DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection

What I prefer to do is create a count and Info property for the class:

So if I have a SomeObject class, and I have a SomeObjects Class, I would
have something like this:

Dim SomeObjs as Collection
Property get SomeObjectCount() As Long SomeObjectCount=SomeObjs.Count
End Get Property Get SomeObjectInfo(intPos) As SomeObject Set
SomeObjectInfo=SomeObjs(val(intPos))
End Property

Lets you loop through the collection then.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate
that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From vchas at artronix-solutions.com  Tue Oct 26 10:44:43 2004
From: vchas at artronix-solutions.com (Vincent Pusateri)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:44:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
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Here you go

Public Function GetEndString(vntString As Variant, strSymbol As String) As
String

    Dim intStartPosition As Integer
    Dim intSymbolPosition As Integer
    
    ' Loop through the line, looking for the last occurrence
    ' of the symbol.  Once the last symbol as been found, pass
    ' back the string to the right of it.
    
    intStartPosition = 1
    
    Do
        intSymbolPosition = InStr(intStartPosition, vntString, strSymbol)
        If intSymbolPosition > 0 Then
            intStartPosition = intSymbolPosition + 1
        End If
    Loop Until intSymbolPosition = 0
    
    GetEndString = Trim$(Mid(vntString, intStartPosition))
   
End Function 

Vinnie Chas

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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:08 AM
To: Access Group (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string

Guys,

I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this before but for
the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last occurrence of "\"
within a file path string. For example if the path was
C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return the Hello.doc
portion and to do that obviously I need to know what position the last
backslash is.

Any ideas?

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Oct 26 11:24:11 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:24:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Memory Leak in DAO?
References: <00d901c4bac3$309c3870$6501a8c0@tbig1>
Message-ID: <417E7A2B.2090708@shaw.ca>

Check your version of Jet, this was a problem corrected with Access97 SR-2
I think there were others
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;191743

Myke Myers wrote:

>Does anyone see why the sub procedure below would result in an out of memory
>condition when run about 100 times in a loop?
>
>
>    Public Sub ExecuteActionQuery(strQueryName As String)
>
>    Dim db As Database
>    Dim qdf As QueryDef
>
>    Set db = CurrentDb
>    Set qdf = db.QueryDefs(strQueryName)
>    qdf.Execute
>
>    Set qdf = Nothing
>    Set db = Nothing
>    
>    Exit Sub
>
>
>
>TIA
>
>Myke
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Oct 26 12:31:50 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:31:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F0471AAFD@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Or, starting at the right end of the string (as that's where we are
expecting to see the data)

Function InStrR(varText As Variant, strFind As String) As Integer
   Dim n As Integer, nStart As Integer
    n = Len(strFind)
    If IsNull(varText) Or n = 0 Then
        InStrR = 0
        Exit Function
    End If
    nStart = Len(varText) - n
    While nStart > 0
        n = InStr(nStart, varText, strFind)
        If n = 0 Then
            nStart = nStart - 1
        Else
            InStrR = n
            Exit Function
        End If
    Wend
    InStrR = 0
End Function


Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Pusateri
> Sent:	Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:45 AM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
> 
> Here you go
> 
> Public Function GetEndString(vntString As Variant, strSymbol As String) As
> String
> 
>     Dim intStartPosition As Integer
>     Dim intSymbolPosition As Integer
>     
>     ' Loop through the line, looking for the last occurrence
>     ' of the symbol.  Once the last symbol as been found, pass
>     ' back the string to the right of it.
>     
>     intStartPosition = 1
>     
>     Do
>         intSymbolPosition = InStr(intStartPosition, vntString, strSymbol)
>         If intSymbolPosition > 0 Then
>             intStartPosition = intSymbolPosition + 1
>         End If
>     Loop Until intSymbolPosition = 0
>     
>     GetEndString = Trim$(Mid(vntString, intStartPosition))
>    
> End Function 
> 
> Vinnie Chas
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of ACTEBS
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:08 AM
> To: Access Group (E-mail)
> Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this before but for
> the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last occurrence of "\"
> within a file path string. For example if the path was
> C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return the Hello.doc
> portion and to do that obviously I need to know what position the last
> backslash is.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Tue Oct 26 12:54:59 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:54:59 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29088927@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

Another mousetrap - use InStrRev, as in (fragment)

  strPath = "C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc"
  retVal =  Mid(strPath,InStrRev(strPath,"\")+1)

You'd still have to do checks for inappropriate values in strPath

Stephen Bond



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 27 October 2004 6:32 a.m.
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
>
>
> Or, starting at the right end of the string (as that's where we are
> expecting to see the data)
>
> Function InStrR(varText As Variant, strFind As String) As Integer
>    Dim n As Integer, nStart As Integer
>     n = Len(strFind)
>     If IsNull(varText) Or n = 0 Then
>         InStrR = 0
>         Exit Function
>     End If
>     nStart = Len(varText) - n
>     While nStart > 0
>         n = InStr(nStart, varText, strFind)
>         If n = 0 Then
>             nStart = nStart - 1
>         Else
>             InStrR = n
>             Exit Function
>         End If
>     Wend
>     InStrR = 0
> End Function
>
>
> Lambert
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Vincent Pusateri
> > Sent:       Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:45 AM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject:    RE: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
> >
> > Here you go
> >
> > Public Function GetEndString(vntString As Variant,
> strSymbol As String) As
> > String
> >
> >     Dim intStartPosition As Integer
> >     Dim intSymbolPosition As Integer
> >    
> >     ' Loop through the line, looking for the last occurrence
> >     ' of the symbol.  Once the last symbol as been found, pass
> >     ' back the string to the right of it.
> >    
> >     intStartPosition = 1
> >    
> >     Do
> >         intSymbolPosition = InStr(intStartPosition,
> vntString, strSymbol)
> >         If intSymbolPosition > 0 Then
> >             intStartPosition = intSymbolPosition + 1
> >         End If
> >     Loop Until intSymbolPosition = 0
> >    
> >     GetEndString = Trim$(Mid(vntString, intStartPosition))
> >   
> > End Function
> >
> > Vinnie Chas
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of ACTEBS
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:08 AM
> > To: Access Group (E-mail)
> > Subject: [AccessD] Last occurrence within a string
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > I am stuffing around with this and am sure I have done this
> before but for
> > the life of me can't get it. I need to find the last
> occurrence of "\"
> > within a file path string. For example if the path was
> > C:\MyDocs\Docs\Temps\Hello.doc I want to be able to return
> the Hello.doc
> > portion and to do that obviously I need to know what
> position the last
> > backslash is.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Oct 26 13:21:53 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:21:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D02C@main2.marlow.com>

True, you can just return the collection.  That is certainly an option, I'm
just used to writing activeX .dll's, where I am going to use them in ASP.
In that situation, I can't 'return' a collection, but I can return items in
a collection.  So it becomes a wrapper around the collection.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Drew,

You're making the assumption that the collection has already been
populated when you add a Count method to the class.  In the attached
code it's being filled when TableNames is called so a call to a count
method could be inaccurate (although a return of 0 or an error would
tell you the collection hadn't been filled).  

Also, why bother writing this method when the returned collection
already has a built in count that can be called from any variable
assigned to the class method?

Jim DeMarco

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection

What I prefer to do is create a count and Info property for the class:

So if I have a SomeObject class, and I have a SomeObjects Class, I would
have something like this:

Dim SomeObjs as Collection
Property get SomeObjectCount() As Long
SomeObjectCount=SomeObjs.Count
End Get
Property Get SomeObjectInfo(intPos) As SomeObject Set
SomeObjectInfo=SomeObjs(val(intPos))
End Property

Lets you loop through the collection then.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate
that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Tue Oct 26 14:02:04 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:02:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Export to CSV file problem
In-Reply-To: <200410261506.i9QF62L01657@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041026135115.013d7b18@pop3.highstream.net>

This is really simple guys/gals:

Parse the date out and rebuild it in a query, add a field:

Date: cstr(datepart("m",YourDateField) & "/" &
       datepart("d",YourDateField) & "/" &
       datepart("yyyy",YourDateField))

Like someone else pointed out, you did not solve your problem,
you only put a Band-Aid on it.

Naming things in your database poorly because someone else did
in theirs is just an excuse.  As shown above, you can name a
column in a query anything you want and yours still be named
properly. Then you can use your transfertext on the query.  And,
since I used the cstr function, it really is a string.

Robert

At 10:06 AM 10/26/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:19:37 -0500
>From: "Kaup, Chester A" <kaupca at chevrontexaco.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Export to CSV file problem
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID:
> 
><1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A267 at bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>The field in the table is text. I tried date/time and both the date and
>the time displayed in the table. The export is dome by the transfertext
>method. The reason I used the word date is because the csv file
>generated is loaded into another program where the field names need to
>match and the field name in that program is date. I solved the problem
>by making the date field nine characters. Maybe not the best way but it
>chops of the time part of date/time and shows only the date in the csv
>file.
>
>Chester Kaup
>Information Management Technician
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From greggs at msn.com  Tue Oct 26 14:58:11 2004
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:58:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with
	Excel*SOLVED"
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371BD@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <BAY3-DAV10g8VMb5UWg000034f2@hotmail.com>

Cool!
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hale, Jim<mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:43 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel*SOLVED"


  Gregg,
  Logging into the console worked! Many thanks!
  Jim Hale

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com]
  Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:59 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with
  Excel


  Jim,

  We've had similar problems.  Terminal Services uses the console to open
  office objects from code interactively.  We got around it by always having
  the console logged in (not pretty just works).  If you still have problems
  you might try adjusting your DCOMCNFG to allow interactive access and launch
  permissions.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Hale, Jim<mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com<mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>> 
    To: 'Accessd (E-mail)<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>> 
    Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:44 AM
    Subject: [AccessD] Strange Citrix error when running Access with Excel


    I have a database that populates Excel budget spreadsheets from Access
    tables and also opens Excel spreadsheets and extracts data. I am using
    Office 2000 and DAO 3.6. The code runs flawlessly on my machine. On the
    Citrix server, however, the code to extract data from spreadsheets runs
  fine
    but the code to populate spreadsheets tells me that the interface does not
    support this operation. References are okay and permissions seem ok since
  I
    can save the spreadsheet (sans the data) through automation. Why
  automation
    works in one direction but not the other is beyond me. Any suggestions?
  TIA
    Jim Hale

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Tue Oct 26 15:05:00 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:05:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D02C@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c4bb97$16157fa0$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

All,

Having seem all the traffic on collections I decided to use one in a utility
I am building.  I get an error message of "Expected user defined type, not
project." on the code line that instantiates the collection: "Private
colListings As New collection".

Any idea what is causing this?

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


True, you can just return the collection.  That is certainly an option, I'm
just used to writing activeX .dll's, where I am going to use them in ASP. In
that situation, I can't 'return' a collection, but I can return items in a
collection.  So it becomes a wrapper around the collection.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Drew,

You're making the assumption that the collection has already been populated
when you add a Count method to the class.  In the attached code it's being
filled when TableNames is called so a call to a count method could be
inaccurate (although a return of 0 or an error would tell you the collection
hadn't been filled).  

Also, why bother writing this method when the returned collection already
has a built in count that can be called from any variable assigned to the
class method?

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection

What I prefer to do is create a count and Info property for the class:

So if I have a SomeObject class, and I have a SomeObjects Class, I would
have something like this:

Dim SomeObjs as Collection
Property get SomeObjectCount() As Long SomeObjectCount=SomeObjs.Count End
Get Property Get SomeObjectInfo(intPos) As SomeObject Set
SomeObjectInfo=SomeObjs(val(intPos))
End Property

Lets you loop through the collection then.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate
that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Tue Oct 26 15:29:07 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:29:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Field not saving to table
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB0B0492@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

I have a data entry form with three fields; record date, well number and
volume. The record date field is automatically filled from a date on
another form. Values in the other two fields are entered by the user.
The form has a data source of a table. The well number and volume fields
save fine to the table. The record date field does not save to the
table. What am I doing wrong or need to do to get the record date to
save to the table? Thanks.

Chester Kaup
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From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Tue Oct 26 15:47:35 2004
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:47:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Field not saving to table
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB07A271@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

Problem solved!
Set data source to table
Set default value to other form.

Chester Kaup
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A
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Subject: [AccessD] Field not saving to table


I have a data entry form with three fields; record date, well number and
volume. The record date field is automatically filled from a date on
another form. Values in the other two fields are entered by the user.
The form has a data source of a table. The well number and volume fields
save fine to the table. The record date field does not save to the
table. What am I doing wrong or need to do to get the record date to
save to the table? Thanks.

Chester Kaup
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Tue Oct 26 18:37:16 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:37:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
In-Reply-To: <000c01c4bb97$16157fa0$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>
Message-ID: <000001c4bbb4$bd633780$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Never mind, something was hosed in the db, I created a new one and it works
fine now.

Doug

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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


All,

Having seem all the traffic on collections I decided to use one in a utility
I am building.  I get an error message of "Expected user defined type, not
project." on the code line that instantiates the collection: "Private
colListings As New collection".

Any idea what is causing this?

Doug

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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


True, you can just return the collection.  That is certainly an option, I'm
just used to writing activeX .dll's, where I am going to use them in ASP. In
that situation, I can't 'return' a collection, but I can return items in a
collection.  So it becomes a wrapper around the collection.

Drew

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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Drew,

You're making the assumption that the collection has already been populated
when you add a Count method to the class.  In the attached code it's being
filled when TableNames is called so a call to a count method could be
inaccurate (although a return of 0 or an error would tell you the collection
hadn't been filled).  

Also, why bother writing this method when the returned collection already
has a built in count that can be called from any variable assigned to the
class method?

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection

What I prefer to do is create a count and Info property for the class:

So if I have a SomeObject class, and I have a SomeObjects Class, I would
have something like this:

Dim SomeObjs as Collection
Property get SomeObjectCount() As Long SomeObjectCount=SomeObjs.Count End
Get Property Get SomeObjectInfo(intPos) As SomeObject Set
SomeObjectInfo=SomeObjs(val(intPos))
End Property

Lets you loop through the collection then.

Drew

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From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate
that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 27 01:43:18 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:43:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; Export to flatfile
In-Reply-To: <1210331495.20041026114056@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041027064318.87527.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Gustav,
 
thnx for you're reply. I found out that the app I'm modifying is using the following command to export to textfiles and I do not want to introduce a new way of exporting for 1 extra export:

DoCmd.TransferText [transfertype][, specificationname], tablename, filename[, hasfieldnames][, HTMLtablename][, codepage]

Now I have 2 problems.
Problem 1: The help file says that when you use a delimited export you do not need a specificationname (see below).
However when I use this command:
DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "tSapExport", "c:\sapexport.txt"
I get the following error:
3441 Text file specification field separator matches decimal separator or text delimiter
 
I have no idea what to do with this error. (tried M$, msdn, and even google ;-))
 
Problem 2: I do not know how to create a specification file.
Any idea how to create such a file?
 
TIA
Sander
 
Helpfile info regarding specification field :
For a fixed-width text file, you must either specify an argument or use a schema.ini file, which must be stored in the same folder as the imported, linked, or exported text file. To create a schema file, you can use the text import/export wizard to create the file. For delimited text files and Microsoft Word mail merge data files, you can leave this argument blank to select the default import/export specifications.

Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi S

> First question:
> I need to create a table using a UNION query. How can I do this?

Create a union query, then use that as source for the append/create
query.

> Second question:
> I need to create a TAB-delimited flatfile using the table created above. How do I do that?

Create a query something like this:

SELECT
Field1,
Field2
INTO
[Text;Database=C:\Windows\Temp].[YourFile.txt]
FROM
YourTable;

Before running this, create (or modify) the file schema.ini in the
destination folder:

[YourFile.txt]
ColNameHeader=False
CharacterSet=ANSI
Format=TabDelimited
Col1=Field1 Char Width 50
Col2=Field2 Char Width 50

The output file (YourFile.txt) must not exist before you run the
query.
As you can see, you may not need the temp table at all; use the union
query as source when creating the text file.

For more into on schema.ini file syntax, look here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odbc/htm/odbcjetschema_ini_file.asp

/gustav

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 27 01:57:55 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:57:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; *SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <20041027064318.87527.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20041027065755.64969.qmail@web61107.mail.yahoo.com>

Yes, a bright moment in time!
Found out how to create a export spec and it works as a charm!!
It's done like this:
1)Right click the table
2)select export
3)Advanced....e voila, you're in the Export Specification 'wizard'.
4)DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, "SapExportFile_Export_Specification", "tSapExport", "c:\SapExportFile.txt"
Succes.
 
SD


S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Gustav,

thnx for you're reply. I found out that the app I'm modifying is using the following command to export to textfiles and I do not want to introduce a new way of exporting for 1 extra export:

DoCmd.TransferText [transfertype][, specificationname], tablename, filename[, hasfieldnames][, HTMLtablename][, codepage]

Now I have 2 problems.
Problem 1: The help file says that when you use a delimited export you do not need a specificationname (see below).
However when I use this command:
DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "tSapExport", "c:\sapexport.txt"
I get the following error:
3441 Text file specification field separator matches decimal separator or text delimiter

I have no idea what to do with this error. (tried M$, msdn, and even google ;-))

Problem 2: I do not know how to create a specification file.
Any idea how to create such a file?

TIA
Sander

Helpfile info regarding specification field :
For a fixed-width text file, you must either specify an argument or use a schema.ini file, which must be stored in the same folder as the imported, linked, or exported text file. To create a schema file, you can use the text import/export wizard to create the file. For delimited text files and Microsoft Word mail merge data files, you can leave this argument blank to select the default import/export specifications.

Gustav Brock wrote:
Hi S

> First question:
> I need to create a table using a UNION query. How can I do this?

Create a union query, then use that as source for the append/create
query.

> Second question:
> I need to create a TAB-delimited flatfile using the table created above. How do I do that?

Create a query something like this:

SELECT
Field1,
Field2
INTO
[Text;Database=C:\Windows\Temp].[YourFile.txt]
FROM
YourTable;

Before running this, create (or modify) the file schema.ini in the
destination folder:

[YourFile.txt]
ColNameHeader=False
CharacterSet=ANSI
Format=TabDelimited
Col1=Field1 Char Width 50
Col2=Field2 Char Width 50

The output file (YourFile.txt) must not exist before you run the
query.
As you can see, you may not need the temp table at all; use the union
query as source when creating the text file.

For more into on schema.ini file syntax, look here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odbc/htm/odbcjetschema_ini_file.asp

/gustav

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Oct 27 01:57:16 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:57:16 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; Export to flatfile
In-Reply-To: <20041027064318.87527.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1210331495.20041026114056@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <417FD36C.29203.EAC1FCF@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 26 Oct 2004 at 23:43, S D wrote:

> Problem 1: The help file says that when you use a delimited export you do not need a specificationname (see below).
> However when I use this command:
> DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "tSapExport", "c:\sapexport.txt"
> I get the following error:
> 3441 Text file specification field separator matches decimal separator or text delimiter
>  
> I have no idea what to do with this error. (tried M$, msdn, and even google ;-))
>  
> Problem 2: I do not know how to create a specification file.
> Any idea how to create such a file?
>  

The answer to problem 2 will slove Problem 1.

Open the Table and use the File-Export to create a text file. In any step 
of the Export Wizard, click the Advanced button and define the export 
specification then Save it.

Once you have saved it, you can specify the save name in the Docmd 
arguments.


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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 27 03:45:11 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:45:11 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; Export to flatfile
In-Reply-To: <20041027064318.87527.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041027064318.87527.qmail@web61103.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <976242876.20041027104511@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

> Found out how to create a export spec and it works as a charm!!

Great. And Stuart did answer too, thanks.

Schema.ini is nothing but a simple textfile in ini-format.
The link to MS goes into every detail of that file.

/gustav


> Problem 2: I do not know how to create a specification file.
> Any idea how to create such a file?

> For more into on schema.ini file syntax, look here:

> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odbc/htm/odbcjetschema_ini_file.asp



From viner at EUnet.yu  Wed Oct 27 05:17:49 2004
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:17:49 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
Message-ID: <000a01c4bc0e$3cb9f380$0100a8c0@razvoj>

Hi,
sorry for the OT post, but I can't find any suitable(printable) stuff on the Net to improve the math skills of my 4 years old boy. Anybody can recommend some good address?
Many TIA,
    Ervin

From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Wed Oct 27 05:28:11 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:28:11 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C408@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Lots of links here Ervin!

http://www.education.bham.ac.uk/subjects/maths/links/default.htm

Chris Foote


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ervin Brindza [mailto:viner at EUnet.yu]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:18 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
> 
> 
> Hi,
> sorry for the OT post, but I can't find any 
> suitable(printable) stuff on the Net to improve the math 
> skills of my 4 years old boy. Anybody can recommend some good address?
> Many TIA,
>     Ervin


From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Oct 27 12:33:28 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:33:28 (MET DST)
Subject: [AccessD] compare record fields
Message-ID: <200410271033.i9RAXSKg017747@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello Group,

i have a table in which i would compare two fields in one record with each other.
The result must be the record where one of the values don't match with one another.

fieldA    fieldB  and several other fields
00123     00123
02345     02345
06789     06689


result

fieldA   fieldB  and several other fields
06789    06689


Is this possible.

Thanks

Pedro Janssen



From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Oct 27 12:38:19 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:38:19 (MET DST)
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
Message-ID: <200410271038.i9RAcJ9k017883@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello group,

who can point me in the right direction on the development of a database where i use barcode with: In Stock managment.

Thanks

Pedro Janssen


From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 27 05:59:27 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:59:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] compare record fields
In-Reply-To: <200410271033.i9RAXSKg017747@mailhostC.plex.net>
References: <200410271033.i9RAXSKg017747@mailhostC.plex.net>
Message-ID: <13914298179.20041027125927@cactus.dk>

Hi Pedro

> i have a table in which i would compare two fields in one record with each other.
> The result must be the record where one of the values don't match with one another.

> fieldA    fieldB  and several other fields
> 00123     00123
> 02345     02345
> 06789     06689


> result

> fieldA   fieldB  and several other fields
> 06789    06689

That could be:

  SELECT
    *
  FROM
    tblTable
  WHERE
    FieldA<>FieldB;


/gustav



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 27 06:37:18 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 04:37:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] 2 qstions: Create table using UNION; Export to flatfile
In-Reply-To: <417FD36C.29203.EAC1FCF@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20041027113718.95924.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Gustav AND STUART
 
Thnx :-)

quote gustav [Great. And Stuart did answer too, thanks.] unquote gustav 

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
On 26 Oct 2004 at 23:43, S D wrote:

> Problem 1: The help file says that when you use a delimited export you do not need a specificationname (see below).
> However when I use this command:
> DoCmd.TransferText acExportDelim, , "tSapExport", "c:\sapexport.txt"
> I get the following error:
> 3441 Text file specification field separator matches decimal separator or text delimiter
> 
> I have no idea what to do with this error. (tried M$, msdn, and even google ;-))
> 
> Problem 2: I do not know how to create a specification file.
> Any idea how to create such a file?
> 

The answer to problem 2 will slove Problem 1.

Open the Table and use the File-Export to create a text file. In any step 
of the Export Wizard, click the Advanced button and define the export 
specification then Save it.

Once you have saved it, you can specify the save name in the Docmd 
arguments.


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From viner at EUnet.yu  Wed Oct 27 06:17:06 2004
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:17:06 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C408@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <003f01c4bc1a$1c8709c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>

Chris,
many thanks for the URL. My son is clever, but he is a 4 years old, and it's
a little bit early for his Univesity study ;-)
Ervin
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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
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Sent: 27 October, 2004 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid


> Lots of links here Ervin!
>
> http://www.education.bham.ac.uk/subjects/maths/links/default.htm
>
> Chris Foote
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ervin Brindza [mailto:viner at EUnet.yu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:18 AM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > sorry for the OT post, but I can't find any
> > suitable(printable) stuff on the Net to improve the math
> > skills of my 4 years old boy. Anybody can recommend some good address?
> > Many TIA,
> >     Ervin
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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Wed Oct 27 07:04:04 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:04:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Allow users to change background colors
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73922@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I have a very simple two form application that I have developed for my
office.  Naturally, some folks don't like the colors I chose for the
background.  I would like to give them a way of changing the colors without
giving them access to design view.  Any ideas.  TIA.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Wed Oct 27 07:14:00 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:14:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Import CSV file with Unix end of line characters
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936552235@primary.orridge.co.uk>

To all,
 
Could someone please tell me or send me some sample code on the best way to
import a CSV file which has Unix end of line characters.
 
Thanks in advance for any help on this
 
PAUL HARTLAND
Database Designer/Programmer
paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk
ISHARP
DDI - 01922 472031
Mobile - 07730 523179

 

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provide IT resources for the Christie Group Stock & Inventory Services
companies.

 


From michael.mattys at adelphia.net  Wed Oct 27 07:16:47 2004
From: michael.mattys at adelphia.net (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:16:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C408@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
	<003f01c4bc1a$1c8709c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>
Message-ID: <03cb01c4bc1e$d5aa8720$6401a8c0@default>

Our kids have used this place since 1st grade

http://www.superkids.com/aweb/tools/

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com

> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ervin Brindza [mailto:viner at EUnet.yu]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:18 AM
> > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > sorry for the OT post, but I can't find any
> > > suitable(printable) stuff on the Net to improve the math
> > > skills of my 4 years old boy. Anybody can recommend some good address?
> > > Many TIA,
> > >     Ervin



From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Wed Oct 27 07:20:14 2004
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:20:14 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Allow users to change background colors
Message-ID: <F37DAC9A2964B144A2973EBCA8C54DBDABD3DE@BURY2K23.bury.gov.uk>

Hi
You could store the settings in a table or ini file and read in, in the
openevent - but for such a small app you may be on a slippy slope as
changing the background colour now may be the first of many requests!!

Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org] 
Sent: 27 October 2004 13:04
To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] Allow users to change background colors

I have a very simple two form application that I have developed for my
office.  Naturally, some folks don't like the colors I chose for the
background.  I would like to give them a way of changing the colors
without
giving them access to design view.  Any ideas.  TIA.

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 27 07:20:08 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:20:08 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Allow users to change background colors
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73922@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
References: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73922@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
Message-ID: <18219139080.20041027142008@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

That kind of requests are best fulfilled by asking the users to agree
on a colourset ... they can't.
Or turn into gray scale - no one can complain on that.

/gustav


> I have a very simple two form application that I have developed for my
> office.  Naturally, some folks don't like the colors I chose for the
> background.  I would like to give them a way of changing the colors without
> giving them access to design view.  Any ideas.  TIA.



From viner at EUnet.yu  Wed Oct 27 07:35:02 2004
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:35:02 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
References: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C408@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk><003f01c4bc1a$1c8709c0$0100a8c0@razvoj>
	<03cb01c4bc1e$d5aa8720$6401a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <002601c4bc21$ed8d0040$0100a8c0@razvoj>

Wow, looks great!
Many thanks,
    Ervin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael R Mattys" <michael.mattys at adelphia.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: 27 October, 2004 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid


> Our kids have used this place since 1st grade
>
> http://www.superkids.com/aweb/tools/
>
> ----
>
> Michael R. Mattys
> Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
> http://www.mattysconsulting.com
>
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ervin Brindza [mailto:viner at EUnet.yu]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:18 AM
> > > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > sorry for the OT post, but I can't find any
> > > > suitable(printable) stuff on the Net to improve the math
> > > > skills of my 4 years old boy. Anybody can recommend some good
address?
> > > > Many TIA,
> > > >     Ervin
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Oct 27 07:43:05 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:43:05 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Allow users to change background colors
In-Reply-To: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73922@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>
Message-ID: <41802479.15558.FE8B2A8@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Oct 2004 at 8:04, Klos, Susan wrote:

> I have a very simple two form application that I have developed for my
> office.  Naturally, some folks don't like the colors I chose for the
> background.  I would like to give them a way of changing the colors without
> giving them access to design view.  Any ideas.  TIA.
> 

In brief: 
Store the desired colour somewhere such as a system table, set it on_load 
and provide a button to call the ChooseColor common dialog,  update the 
current background and store the new colour:

In detail:

1.  Table:  TSysFile Field: BColor - Long

2.  Create a button on the form called cmdColorChange and set the button's 
on_click to [Event procedure]

3. Paste the following into the form's module.

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit
   Private Type CHOOSECOLOR
     lStructSize As Long
     hwndOwner As Long
     hInstance As Long
     rgbResult As Long
     lpCustColors As String
     flags As Long
     lCustData As Long
     lpfnHook As Long
     lpTemplateName As String
   End Type

   Private Declare Function ChooseColorAPI Lib "comdlg32.dll" Alias _
     "ChooseColorA" (pChoosecolor As CHOOSECOLOR) As Long

   Dim CustomColors() As Byte

   Private Sub Form_Load()

       ReDim CustomColors(0 To 16 * 4 - 1) As Byte
       Dim i As Integer

       For i = LBound(CustomColors) To UBound(CustomColors)
           CustomColors(i) = 0
       Next i
       
       Detail.BackColor = DLookup("bcolor", "tsysfile")
 
  End Sub

Private Sub CmdColorChange_Click()
       
       Dim cc As CHOOSECOLOR
       Dim Custcolor(16) As Long
       Dim lReturn As Long
       cc.lStructSize = Len(cc)
       cc.hwndOwner = Me.Hwnd
       cc.hInstance = 0
       cc.lpCustColors = StrConv(CustomColors, vbUnicode)
       cc.flags = 0
       lReturn = ChooseColorAPI(cc)
       If lReturn <> 0 Then
           Detail.BackColor = cc.rgbResult ' Access only **********
           CurrentDb.Execute "Update tSysFile set BColor = " & cc.rgbResult
           CustomColors = StrConv(cc.lpCustColors, vbFromUnicode)
       End If

End Sub


-- 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Oct 27 07:49:25 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:49:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Import CSV file with Unix end of line characters
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936552235@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <418025F5.30030.FEE7E8B@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Oct 2004 at 13:14, Paul Hartland (ISHARP) wrote:

> To all,
>  
> Could someone please tell me or send me some sample code on the best way to
> import a CSV file which has Unix end of line characters.
>  


Here's the PowerBasic code for a simple converter I use for this. You could 
probably do the same thing in VBA  with a few minor mods. I can let you 
have the compiled  executable if you want it.


FUNCTION PBMAIN() AS LONG
DIM infile AS STRING
DIM outfile AS STRING
DIM temp AS STRING

    infile = COMMAND$
    IF DIR$(infile) = "" THEN
        MSGBOX infile & " not found"
        EXIT FUNCTION
    END IF
    OPEN infile$ FOR BINARY AS #1
    GET$ #1, LOF(1), temp
    IF INSTR(temp,CHR$(13,10)) > 0 THEN
         MSGBOX "This file is already DOS formatted!"
    ELSE
       REPLACE CHR$(10) WITH CHR$(13,10) IN temp
       outfile = LEFT$(infile,LEN(infile)-4) & "-DOS.CSV"
       OPEN outfile$ FOR BINARY AS #2
       PUT$ #2, temp
       MSGBOX Infile & " converted to " & outfile
       CLOSE #2
    END IF
    CLOSE #1

END FUNCTION            0

-- 
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 27 08:03:38 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:03:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Animation e.g. gif?
Message-ID: <20041027130338.31864.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
is it possible to add an animation to my Acces form with STANDARD Access 2000 controls?
 
And I mean STANDARD! No, dll's or anything like it.
 
Tia.
Sander

		
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Wed Oct 27 08:27:22 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:27:22 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Import CSV file with Unix end of line characters
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893654FF03@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936552236@primary.orridge.co.uk>

Thanks,

I will have a go at converting it to VBA first

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 27 October 2004 13:49
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Import CSV file with Unix end of line characters


On 27 Oct 2004 at 13:14, Paul Hartland (ISHARP) wrote:

> To all,
>  
> Could someone please tell me or send me some sample code on the best 
> way to import a CSV file which has Unix end of line characters.
>  


Here's the PowerBasic code for a simple converter I use for this. You could 
probably do the same thing in VBA  with a few minor mods. I can let you 
have the compiled  executable if you want it.


FUNCTION PBMAIN() AS LONG
DIM infile AS STRING
DIM outfile AS STRING
DIM temp AS STRING

    infile = COMMAND$
    IF DIR$(infile) = "" THEN
        MSGBOX infile & " not found"
        EXIT FUNCTION
    END IF
    OPEN infile$ FOR BINARY AS #1
    GET$ #1, LOF(1), temp
    IF INSTR(temp,CHR$(13,10)) > 0 THEN
         MSGBOX "This file is already DOS formatted!"
    ELSE
       REPLACE CHR$(10) WITH CHR$(13,10) IN temp
       outfile = LEFT$(infile,LEN(infile)-4) & "-DOS.CSV"
       OPEN outfile$ FOR BINARY AS #2
       PUT$ #2, temp
       MSGBOX Infile & " converted to " & outfile
       CLOSE #2
    END IF
    CLOSE #1

END FUNCTION            0

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Oct 27 08:22:25 2004
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:22:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C7448696E@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Right but in this case if the TableNames method has not been called the collection will not be instantiated and an error will have to be handled.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


The class Count method would *use* the Count method of the underlying
collection.  An empty collection should return a zero count.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 5:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Drew,

You're making the assumption that the collection has already been
populated when you add a Count method to the class.  In the attached
code it's being filled when TableNames is called so a call to a count
method could be inaccurate (although a return of 0 or an error would
tell you the collection hadn't been filled).  

Also, why bother writing this method when the returned collection
already has a built in count that can be called from any variable
assigned to the class method?

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Itterate a collection

What I prefer to do is create a count and Info property for the class:

So if I have a SomeObject class, and I have a SomeObjects Class, I would
have something like this:

Dim SomeObjs as Collection
Property get SomeObjectCount() As Long SomeObjectCount=SomeObjs.Count
End Get Property Get SomeObjectInfo(intPos) As SomeObject Set
SomeObjectInfo=SomeObjs(val(intPos))
End Property

Lets you loop through the collection then.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: S D [mailto:accessd667 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Itterate a collection


Hi group,
 
I've got a class that returns a collection....how the $#$ call I iterate
that collection?
 
TIA
 
SD
 
Here's the code I use in my form:
Private Sub cmdRetrieveTablenames_Click()
   Dim cDO As cDatabaseObjects
   Dim oColl As Collection
   
   Set cDO = New cDatabaseObjects
   Set oColl = New Collection
   
   cDO.TableNames
   
End Sub
 
Here's the code in the class cDatabaseObjects:
Public Function TableNames() As Collection
   On Error GoTo errHandler
   
   Dim oCatalog As New ADOX.Catalog
   Dim oTableNames As New Collection
   Dim oTables As ADOX.Tables
   Dim oTable As ADOX.Table
   Dim oConnection As New ADODB.Connection
 
   Set oCatalog.ActiveConnection = CurrentProject.Connection
   Set oTables = oCatalog.Tables
 
   For Each oTable In oTables
      oTableNames.Add oTable.Name
   Next
   Set TableNames = oTableNames
errHandler:
   On Error Resume Next
   If oConnection.State <> 0 Then oConnection.Close
   Set oConnection = Nothing
   Set oCatalog = Nothing
   Set oTable = Nothing
   Set oTables = Nothing
End Function

 
 

		
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct 27 08:41:33 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:41:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] compare record fields
In-Reply-To: <200410271033.i9RAXSKg017747@mailhostC.plex.net>
Message-ID: <20041027134134.LPLW8988.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

There's a wizard for that. Try the Duplicates wizard. 

Susan H. 

Hello Group,

i have a table in which i would compare two fields in one record with each
other.
The result must be the record where one of the values don't match with one
another.

fieldA    fieldB  and several other fields
00123     00123
02345     02345
06789     06689


result

fieldA   fieldB  and several other fields
06789    06689


Is this possible.

Thanks

Pedro Janssen

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Oct 27 08:41:33 2004
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:41:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4bc0e$3cb9f380$0100a8c0@razvoj>
Message-ID: <20041027134142.LPOU8988.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Try Reader Rabbit CD's. I don't know if they have any math games aimed at
that age, but I know they have preschool games. Lexie loved Reader Rabbit
for the longest time. 

Susan H. 

Hi,
sorry for the OT post, but I can't find any suitable(printable) stuff on the
Net to improve the math skills of my 4 years old boy. Anybody can recommend
some good address?
Many TIA,



From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Oct 27 08:43:52 2004
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:43:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068C51@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


A couple of years ago, we wanted to use barcodes for specimens used in evaluating inspectors.
After much research on the code to generate the barcode, we purchased a barcode reader.
After we purchased the barcode reader, we realized how simple it was.  
The barcode reader came with the code to generate the barcode and instructions on how to scan the items.
In hindsight, we should have bought the barcode reader first, then if needed, do the research to generate the barcode.
My recommendation is to decide which barcode reader you want to use first.
The information that comes with the barcode reader might just have all the information you need.
In Access the easiest barcode to use is called Code 39, which is easily downloaded as a font. As a font, it can be used for any alphanumeric character and can be printed on labels, forms, etc.

The barcode reader we purchased acted like any input device.  Whatever field the cursor is in, is where the data is placed.

HTH
Jim H.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:38 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment


Hello group,

who can point me in the right direction on the development of a database where i use barcode with: In Stock managment.

Thanks

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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Wed Oct 27 08:49:50 2004
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:49:50 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C40C@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

LOL!

Sorry Ervin, I thought there were links towards the bottom of the page to
items suitable for 4 year olds. Darned if I can find them now.

I would have thought though that, the four year old child of an AccessDer
should be capable of handling maths designed for an "ordinary" 8-year old
;-O

Regards
Chris Foote


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ervin Brindza [mailto:viner at EUnet.yu]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:17 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
> 
> 
> Chris,
> many thanks for the URL. My son is clever, but he is a 4 
> years old, and it's
> a little bit early for his Univesity study ;-)
> Ervin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Foote, Chris" <Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: 27 October, 2004 12:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Math for 4 years old kid
> 
> 
> > Lots of links here Ervin!
> >
> > http://www.education.bham.ac.uk/subjects/maths/links/default.htm
> >
> > Chris Foote


From JColby at dispec.com  Wed Oct 27 09:06:42 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:06:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF93E@DISABILITYINS01>

>The barcode reader we purchased acted like any input device.  Whatever
field the cursor is in, is where the data is placed.

You might want to go with a serial port reader (or usb port these days?).  

The alternative as a "keyboard wedge" type (sits between the keyboard and
PC, inserting the data right into the keyboard stream).  These cause
problems.  

The reason is that with the serial port readers you have control over where
and when you read the bar code.  I have used both and, users being users,
when you use the "keyboard wedge", you ALWAYS end up with garbage in word
documents, excel documents, the wrong form etc.  Basically the user forgets
to go to the right place before scanning and they corrupt whatever data they
the insertion pointer (cursor / focus) is currently on.

The serial port type is more difficult to get set up since you have to use a
serial port control (comes with vba), but once set up you can turn on / off
the reader (or more correctly the serial port) programmatically, thus
controlling when the user can scan data.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


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From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment



A couple of years ago, we wanted to use barcodes for specimens used in
evaluating inspectors.
After much research on the code to generate the barcode, we purchased a
barcode reader.
After we purchased the barcode reader, we realized how simple it was.  
The barcode reader came with the code to generate the barcode and
instructions on how to scan the items.
In hindsight, we should have bought the barcode reader first, then if
needed, do the research to generate the barcode.
My recommendation is to decide which barcode reader you want to use first.
The information that comes with the barcode reader might just have all the
information you need.
In Access the easiest barcode to use is called Code 39, which is easily
downloaded as a font. As a font, it can be used for any alphanumeric
character and can be printed on labels, forms, etc.

The barcode reader we purchased acted like any input device.  Whatever field
the cursor is in, is where the data is placed.

HTH
Jim H.

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To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment


Hello group,

who can point me in the right direction on the development of a database
where i use barcode with: In Stock managment.

Thanks

Pedro Janssen
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Oct 27 09:28:19 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:28:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF7370@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

 The  in-between-keyboard barcodescanner only works with PS2 type of
keyboards.
Some brand are migrating to USB connector keyboards.

The in-between-keyboard barcodescanner does not work when no PS2
keyboard is connected.

Erwin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Colby, John
Verzonden: woensdag 27 oktober 2004 16:07
Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment

>The barcode reader we purchased acted like any input device.  Whatever
field the cursor is in, is where the data is placed.

You might want to go with a serial port reader (or usb port these
days?).  

The alternative as a "keyboard wedge" type (sits between the keyboard
and PC, inserting the data right into the keyboard stream).  These cause
problems.  

The reason is that with the serial port readers you have control over
where and when you read the bar code.  I have used both and, users being
users, when you use the "keyboard wedge", you ALWAYS end up with garbage
in word documents, excel documents, the wrong form etc.  Basically the
user forgets to go to the right place before scanning and they corrupt
whatever data they the insertion pointer (cursor / focus) is currently
on.

The serial port type is more difficult to get set up since you have to
use a serial port control (comes with vba), but once set up you can turn
on / off the reader (or more correctly the serial port)
programmatically, thus controlling when the user can scan data.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment



A couple of years ago, we wanted to use barcodes for specimens used in
evaluating inspectors.
After much research on the code to generate the barcode, we purchased a
barcode reader.
After we purchased the barcode reader, we realized how simple it was.  
The barcode reader came with the code to generate the barcode and
instructions on how to scan the items.
In hindsight, we should have bought the barcode reader first, then if
needed, do the research to generate the barcode.
My recommendation is to decide which barcode reader you want to use
first.
The information that comes with the barcode reader might just have all
the information you need.
In Access the easiest barcode to use is called Code 39, which is easily
downloaded as a font. As a font, it can be used for any alphanumeric
character and can be printed on labels, forms, etc.

The barcode reader we purchased acted like any input device.  Whatever
field the cursor is in, is where the data is placed.

HTH
Jim H.

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To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment


Hello group,

who can point me in the right direction on the development of a database
where i use barcode with: In Stock managment.

Thanks

Pedro Janssen
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 27 09:43:35 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:43:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
References: <002c01c4b6e6$68807980$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <417FB417.6010601@shaw.ca>

Something I came across from an ASP perspective
http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/

Barbara Ryan wrote:

>Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web application.
>
>Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
>
>Thanks,
>Barb Ryan
>  
>

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Oct 27 09:50:29 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:50:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Animation e.g. gif?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B1A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You could use a form timer, but I don't think you would like the results
because Access timers tend to interfer with absolutely everything!

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 6:04 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Animation e.g. gif?


Hi group,
 
is it possible to add an animation to my Acces form with STANDARD Access
2000 controls?
 
And I mean STANDARD! No, dll's or anything like it.
 
Tia.
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Oct 27 09:50:42 2004
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:50:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D031@main2.marlow.com>

It is slow, though in a single use function, it isn't noticable.  Put it in
a big loop, or use it all over in a report, and you'll notice delays.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 4:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open a form and find a record


Hi Donald and Susan

It's an old and persistent rumour that DLookup is always slow. Quite
often it is not. So, Susan, give it a try - it's extremely simple and
in a minute your problem will be solved and you can move on to the
more funny tasks.

By the way, the code could be simplified even further:

  strCriteria ="[QAFName]='" & Me![UsersName] & "'"
  If IsNull(Dlookup("[ProjectID]", "tblProjects", strCriteria)) Then
    MsgBox "You are not the QA on any projects."
  Else
    ' Open form ...
  End If

/gustav


> Well, I don't have to worry much about portability issues, but I'd be
> interested in the opinions of folks better versed than I in the area of
> optimization.  I was under the impression that a simple one-time call to
> a domain function in a case like this is no big deal in terms of speed.
> (I suppose it depends on the size of the table.)  I do avoid using them
> in iterative processes, however.  

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Oct 27 10:35:42 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:35:42 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
In-Reply-To: <417FB417.6010601@shaw.ca>
References: <002c01c4b6e6$68807980$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
	<417FB417.6010601@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <7630872802.20041027173542@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

> Something I came across from an ASP perspective
> http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/

Hmm ... I found this a thin cup of tea.
And boy, is that site awful ...

/gustav



From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Oct 27 11:19:33 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:19:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54A0@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Hi group
 
I already asked this question but never got a response to it.
The list was having some mail problems at that time so I'm not sure if
my mail got around.
I found it rather curious no one responded to my mail.
 
Who has some experiences with Access on a tablet pc?
 
More specific I want to kown if (regular) Access 2003 Runs on Windows XP
for Tablets PC edition?
And if I should know some special stuff running on it.
I'm developping an app that, for remote client side, should run on a
tablet pc....
 
Thx

 

Erwin Craps

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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Wed Oct 27 13:14:13 2004
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:14:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
References: <002c01c4b6e6$68807980$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
	<417FB417.6010601@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000a01c4bc50$c3807dc0$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

Thanks, Marty....

I had looked at this site as well as several others on the Web.  I think
that my main question is a performance issue --- since MySQL does not use
server side cursors, is there any performance advantage over using the
existing Access back-end?

I could also use a SQL Server back-end using ODBC.  However, it is my
understanding that I would need modify code (SQL statements, queries, etc)
in the Access front end to optimize performance using SQL Server (vs. an
Access back-end).  I am not an expert in any of this my any means, so please
correct me if I've spoken heresy!

Again, some considerations are that my client currently does not own SQL
Server but is using MySQL in their web application.

Thanks,
Barb Ryan




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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database


> Something I came across from an ASP perspective
> http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/
>
> Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a
front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in
converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They
currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web
application.
> >
> >Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Barb Ryan
> >
> >
>
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Wed Oct 27 13:12:15 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:12:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Animation e.g. gif?
In-Reply-To: <200410271700.i9RH0fL18479@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041027130404.01381e00@pop3.highstream.net>

Sander,

Access is a database program, not a tinker toy graphics
program.

The simple answer is "no."

The complex answer is:

If you want to slow the form to a crawl and give it an
unprofessional, childish look, you can use the timer
event to make things happen on the form that looks
like animation.

Access simply does not have the event model to do it.

Hummm, did my prejudice about Mickey Mouse design
show????

Robert

At 12:00 PM 10/27/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:03:38 -0700 (PDT)
>From: S D <accessd667 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] Animation e.g. gif?
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Message-ID: <20041027130338.31864.qmail at web61110.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Hi group,
>
>is it possible to add an animation to my Acces form with STANDARD Access 
>2000 controls?
>
>And I mean STANDARD! No, dll's or anything like it.
>
>Tia.
>Sander




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From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:09:08 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54A0@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <000201c4bc50$0de42e80$9139fc3e@netboxxp>

Hi Erwin

I have been running Access XP on a tablet for a month with no probs (the
tablet is now my main dev machine when I'm on-site and also runs
MSDE)... I did a test install of 2003 and it 'seemed' to work but I only
played with it for a couple of hours before restoring from a ghost.

I have notice no difference other than input options etc. using Tablet
XP. From what I understand its exactly the same as normal Windows (if
there is any such thing :O) but with a few extra bits tacked on...

I am also new to Tablets, pretty impressed so far but dissapointed with
voice recognition. 

Good luck

Mark

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Sent: 27 October 2004 17:20
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)


Hi group
 
I already asked this question but never got a response to it. The list
was having some mail problems at that time so I'm not sure if my mail
got around. I found it rather curious no one responded to my mail.
 
Who has some experiences with Access on a tablet pc?
 
More specific I want to kown if (regular) Access 2003 Runs on Windows XP
for Tablets PC edition? And if I should know some special stuff running
on it. I'm developping an app that, for remote client side, should run
on a tablet pc....
 
Thx

 

Erwin Craps

Zaakvoerder 

www.ithelps.be/jonathan

 

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Wed Oct 27 13:20:32 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:20:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Access with a MySQL database
In-Reply-To: <200410271700.i9RH0fL18479@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041027131830.013db158@pop3.highstream.net>

If they have Office 2000 or higher, they have SQL Server in the MSDE.
It is good for up to 10 concurrent users.

My SQL does not support stored procedures, views, or referential
integrity.  SQL Server, even the MSDE, does.

Robert

At 12:00 PM 10/27/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:43:35 -0700
>From: MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <417FB417.6010601 at shaw.ca>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii
>
>Something I came across from an ASP perspective
>http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/
>
>Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a 
> front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in 
> converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They 
> currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web application.
> >
> >Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Barb Ryan
> >
> >




From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 27 13:32:12 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:32:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
In-Reply-To: <000a01c4bc50$c3807dc0$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIAEIDCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Barb:

These comments are from my observations:

1. Using MySQL is slower than Access DAO when working with small to medium
sized tables and having to use an ODBC driver adds another performance hit.
The lose in performance is totally connection related.
2. MySQL's tables can exceed 2GB, still runs fast, even with huge files and
of course it is free.
3. MS SQL does not need an ODBC drive, handles huge files, runs very fast
and has an awesome set of features but can be considered expensive.

HTH
Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database


Thanks, Marty....

I had looked at this site as well as several others on the Web.  I think
that my main question is a performance issue --- since MySQL does not use
server side cursors, is there any performance advantage over using the
existing Access back-end?

I could also use a SQL Server back-end using ODBC.  However, it is my
understanding that I would need modify code (SQL statements, queries, etc)
in the Access front end to optimize performance using SQL Server (vs. an
Access back-end).  I am not an expert in any of this my any means, so please
correct me if I've spoken heresy!

Again, some considerations are that my client currently does not own SQL
Server but is using MySQL in their web application.

Thanks,
Barb Ryan




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From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database


> Something I came across from an ASP perspective
> http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/
>
> Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a
front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in
converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They
currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web
application.
> >
> >Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Barb Ryan
> >
> >
>
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> Canada
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From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Wed Oct 27 13:49:10 2004
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:49:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Access with a MySQL database
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20041027131830.013db158@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <002101c4bc55$a5ac6fc0$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

That's good news (regarding Microsoft SQL) --- they currently are using
Access 97, but are converting to XP in the near future, so looks like
they'll have it.   I don't think that they will have more than 10 users.

Barb


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To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Cc: <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:20 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Access with a MySQL database


> If they have Office 2000 or higher, they have SQL Server in the MSDE.
> It is good for up to 10 concurrent users.
>
> My SQL does not support stored procedures, views, or referential
> integrity.  SQL Server, even the MSDE, does.
>
> Robert
>
> At 12:00 PM 10/27/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:43:35 -0700
> >From: MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Message-ID: <417FB417.6010601 at shaw.ca>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >Something I came across from an ASP perspective
> >http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/
> >
> >Barbara Ryan wrote:
> >
> > >Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a
> > front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in
> > converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They
> > currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web
application.
> > >
> > >Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Barb Ryan
> > >
> > >
>
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Oct 27 15:46:55 2004
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:46:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54A1@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Aha 
Thank you Mark
Now I now it should work.

I'm pretty disapointed that no Access developers have developed an app
for tablet pc's.
I tought there can be a pretty big market in that area.

I'm developing a app for experts that estimates real estates by a
prededined list of questions that will be filled in on site or in the
car and afterwards be send to the main office.

What concernes voice recognition, never believed in it. I believe its a
waste of time and money. They would have better invested that money
straightaway in mind control.
The day mind control will be working and affordable will be the day
computer use will make a giant leap.
Use of computer is now bottle necked by the keyboard. Speech will not
resolve the slowness of user input. Mind control should...
But today it is rather slow to.... About 1 command in two minutes...


 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MarkH
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)

Hi Erwin

I have been running Access XP on a tablet for a month with no probs (the
tablet is now my main dev machine when I'm on-site and also runs
MSDE)... I did a test install of 2003 and it 'seemed' to work but I only
played with it for a couple of hours before restoring from a ghost.

I have notice no difference other than input options etc. using Tablet
XP. From what I understand its exactly the same as normal Windows (if
there is any such thing :O) but with a few extra bits tacked on...

I am also new to Tablets, pretty impressed so far but dissapointed with
voice recognition. 

Good luck

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
IT Helps
Sent: 27 October 2004 17:20
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)


Hi group
 
I already asked this question but never got a response to it. The list
was having some mail problems at that time so I'm not sure if my mail
got around. I found it rather curious no one responded to my mail.
 
Who has some experiences with Access on a tablet pc?
 
More specific I want to kown if (regular) Access 2003 Runs on Windows XP
for Tablets PC edition? And if I should know some special stuff running
on it. I'm developping an app that, for remote client side, should run
on a tablet pc....
 
Thx

 

Erwin Craps

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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Oct 27 16:27:04 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:27:04 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] compare record fields
References: <200410271033.i9RAXSKg017747@mailhostC.plex.net>
	<13914298179.20041027125927@cactus.dk>
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Gustav,

thanks for your help.


Susan,

i believ that the duplicate wizard only works on two tables,
and gives as result only the field that isn't present in teh other table.
I need the two fields with the mismatch in one record.

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] compare record fields


> Hi Pedro
>
> > i have a table in which i would compare two fields in one record with
each other.
> > The result must be the record where one of the values don't match with
one another.
>
> > fieldA    fieldB  and several other fields
> > 00123     00123
> > 02345     02345
> > 06789     06689
>
>
> > result
>
> > fieldA   fieldB  and several other fields
> > 06789    06689
>
> That could be:
>
>   SELECT
>     *
>   FROM
>     tblTable
>   WHERE
>     FieldA<>FieldB;
>
>
> /gustav
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Oct 27 18:03:37 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:03:37 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)
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On 27 Oct 2004 at 22:46, Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

> What concernes voice recognition, never believed in it. I believe its a
> waste of time and money. They would have better invested that money
> straightaway in mind control.
> The day mind control will be working and affordable will be the day
> computer use will make a giant leap.
> Use of computer is now bottle necked by the keyboard. Speech will not
> resolve the slowness of user input. Mind control should...
> But today it is rather slow to.... About 1 command in two minutes...
> 

Take a look at Dasher 
I'm writing this using just a mouse and it works well with a bit of 
practice 

http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/-- 
Stuart




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Oct 27 18:29:41 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:29:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B54A1@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <41802F65.5090606@shaw.ca>

You could use these palm top mini laptop that run WinXP home
Some have keyboards but they run hot and have short battery life.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3121_7-5538408-1.html?tag=nl.e404

 A lot of developers are using C#.net or asp.netfor palm tops because 
they can use smarterm
which allows immediate screen redesign of forms depending on screen 
realestate
So they don't have to rewrite for different machines.


Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Aha 
>Thank you Mark
>Now I now it should work.
>
>I'm pretty disapointed that no Access developers have developed an app
>for tablet pc's.
>I tought there can be a pretty big market in that area.
>
>I'm developing a app for experts that estimates real estates by a
>prededined list of questions that will be filled in on site or in the
>car and afterwards be send to the main office.
>
>What concernes voice recognition, never believed in it. I believe its a
>waste of time and money. They would have better invested that money
>straightaway in mind control.
>The day mind control will be working and affordable will be the day
>computer use will make a giant leap.
>Use of computer is now bottle necked by the keyboard. Speech will not
>resolve the slowness of user input. Mind control should...
>But today it is rather slow to.... About 1 command in two minutes...
>
>
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MarkH
>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:09 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)
>
>Hi Erwin
>
>I have been running Access XP on a tablet for a month with no probs (the
>tablet is now my main dev machine when I'm on-site and also runs
>MSDE)... I did a test install of 2003 and it 'seemed' to work but I only
>played with it for a couple of hours before restoring from a ghost.
>
>I have notice no difference other than input options etc. using Tablet
>XP. From what I understand its exactly the same as normal Windows (if
>there is any such thing :O) but with a few extra bits tacked on...
>
>I am also new to Tablets, pretty impressed so far but dissapointed with
>voice recognition. 
>
>Good luck
>
>Mark
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
>IT Helps
>Sent: 27 October 2004 17:20
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Access On Tablet Pc's (again)
>
>
>Hi group
> 
>I already asked this question but never got a response to it. The list
>was having some mail problems at that time so I'm not sure if my mail
>got around. I found it rather curious no one responded to my mail.
> 
>Who has some experiences with Access on a tablet pc?
> 
>More specific I want to kown if (regular) Access 2003 Runs on Windows XP
>for Tablets PC edition? And if I should know some special stuff running
>on it. I'm developping an app that, for remote client side, should run
>on a tablet pc....
> 
>Thx
>
> 
>
>Erwin Craps
>
>Zaakvoerder 
>
>www.ithelps.be/jonathan
>
> 
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Oct 27 20:54:12 2004
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 21:54:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access with a MySQL database
In-Reply-To: <417FB417.6010601@shaw.ca>
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MartyConnelly wrote:

> Something I came across from an ASP perspective
> http://www.aspfree.com/c/a/Microsoft-Access/An-Access-Front-End-to-MySQL/
>
> Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any experience using an Access application as a 
>> front-end to a MySQL database back-end?  My client is interested in 
>> converting the Access back-end to either SQL Server or MySQL.  They 
>> currently do not own SQL Server but are using MySQL in their web 
>> application.
>>
>> Any thoughts (advantages, limitations, etc.)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Barb Ryan
>>  
>>
>
Hmph. I thought I answered this already, but it must have been a senior 
moment. I have been there and done that extensively, for the book (that 
was cancelled, and will soon re-emerge as a web site) my partner Peter 
Brawley and I wrote about MySQL.

In brief, the basic setup is dead simple. Download MyODBC from MySQL.com 
and install it. Copy your current app to a new file and start there. You 
also have to get the data from your current database to MySQL but for 
the moment I'll jump over that issue.

Run the linked tables wizard and choose odbc as the file type and then 
create a connection to your MySQL database. Check each table in the 
database manager before proceeding. Attempt to add a row. If you get a 
new row with everything marked #deleted#, then add a DateTime column to 
every such table and set its default to Now(). Repeat until success. Now 
load the forms one by one and see if they work.

That should do it. I may have skipped over a few trivialities but that's 
the nut.

Now back to the import problem. Assuming that all you have is Access and 
MySQL, you can do it this way: create the aforementioned MySQL database, 
then the MDB and the ODBC hook to it, then choose File/Get External 
Data/Import and then select the current Access database. Select all the 
tables and go. You may have data-type-conversion problems. Don't expect 
the first pass to be 100% successful. See what went wrong and fix it 
first, until finally the import works 100%.

After that, your data will all be in MySQL. You may at that point choose 
to revise your indexing strategies, or not. Compare the versions for 
performance.

HTH,
A.


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Oct 27 22:16:12 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:16:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux and UNIX
Message-ID: <010d01c4bc9c$7aa1ca40$6701a8c0@HAL9002>

Steve sent me this personal message.  Wanted me to know.  Thought you all 
should as well.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Ballmer" <steveballmer at ceo.microsoft.com>
To: <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:34 PM
Subject: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux and UNIX


In the thousands of meetings that Microsoft employees have with customers 
around the world every day, many of the same questions consistently surface: 
Does an open source platform really provide a long-term cost advantage 
compared with Windows? Which platform offers the most secure computing 
environment? Given the growing concern among customers about intellectual 
property indemnification, what's the best way to minimize risk? In moving 
from an expensive UNIX platform, what's the best alternative in terms of 
migration?

Customers want factual information to help them make the best decisions 
about these issues. About a year ago, a senior Microsoft team led by General 
Manager Martin Taylor was created to figure out how we could do a better job 
helping customers evaluate our products against alternatives such as 
Linux/open source and proprietary UNIX. This team has worked with a number 
of top analyst firms that have generated independent, third-party reports on 
cost of acquisition, total cost of ownership, security and indemnification. 
Some of the studies were commissioned by Microsoft, while others were 
initiated and funded by the analysts. In each case, the research 
methodology, findings and conclusions were the sole domain of the analyst 
firms. This was essential: we wanted truly independent, factual information.

At the same time, our worldwide sales organization is going even deeper with 
customers to understand their needs and create a feedback loop with our 
product development teams that enables us to deliver integrated solutions 
that support real-world customer scenarios, and comprehensively address 
issues such as manageability, ease of use and reliability.

I'm writing to you and other business decision makers and IT professionals 
today to share some of the data around these key issues - and to provide 
examples of customers who opted to go with the Windows platform rather than 
Linux or UNIX, and how that's playing out for them in the real world. Much 
more information on this is at www.microsoft.com/getthefacts.

This email is one in an occasional series of emails from Microsoft 
executives about technology and public-policy issues important to computer 
users, our industry, and anyone who cares about the future of high 
technology. If you would like to receive these emails in the future, please 
go to 
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TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP AND ACQUISITION COSTS

In the past few years, you haven't been able to open a computing magazine or 
visit a technology Web site without running into an article about Linux and 
open source. Not surprising: who doesn't like the idea of a "free" operating 
system that just about anyone can tinker with?

But as the Yankee Group commented in an independent, non-sponsored global 
study of 1,000 IT administrators and executives, Linux, UNIX and Windows TCO 
Comparison, things aren't always as they seem: "All of the major Linux 
vendors and distributors (including Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Novell [SUSE and 
Ximian] and Red Hat) have begun charging hefty premiums for must-have items 
such as technical service and support, product warranties and licensing 
indemnification."

Yankee's study concluded that, in large enterprises, a significant Linux 
deployment or total switch from Windows to Linux would be three to four 
times more expensive - and take three times as long to deploy - as an 
upgrade from one version of Windows to a newer release. And nine out of 10 
enterprise customers said that such a change wouldn't provide any tangible 
business gains.

Yankee also noted that, for larger organizations with complex computer 
networks, it's important to look beyond Linux's initial low investment cost 
and consider all of the TCO and ROI factors.

This is exactly what one of our large enterprise customers, Equifax, did 
recently. Equifax, a $1.2 billion U.S.-based enterprise with 4,600 employees 
in 13 countries, needed more computing power than its mainframe systems 
could deliver for rapidly searching the company's vast marketing database. 
They spent several months conducting an internal analysis, which proved 
that, compared with Linux, Windows would realize a 14% cost savings and 
shorten their time to market by six months. (Equifax Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.aspx?CaseStudyID=15528)

Another comprehensive, non-sponsored study by Forrester, entitled The Costs 
and Risks of Open Source, drew a similar conclusion: "The allure of free 
software is accelerating the deployment of open source platforms, but open 
source is not free and may actually increase financial and business risks."

In early 2004, Forrester conducted in-depth discussions with 14 companies 
that had been running Linux platforms for longer than one year to see what 
the costs really were. Several key themes emerged:

- Few companies know what they're really spending. Only five of the 14 kept 
detailed metrics - and each of those five found Linux more expensive (5% to 
20%) than their current Microsoft environments.

- Preparation and planning activities took 5% to 25% longer for Linux than 
Windows.

- Training for IT employees was significantly higher for Linux than for 
Windows - on average, 15% more expensive. The reasons: training materials 
were less readily available, and customers spent more on training to 
compensate for the lack of internal knowledge about Linux.

- All 14 companies said it was difficult finding qualified Linux personnel 
in the marketplace to support their Linux projects. When they did find 
third-party help, they had less leverage negotiating hourly rates than with 
Windows consulting resources.

One of our mid-market customers, Computer Builders Warehouse (CBW), came to 
a similar conclusion. CBW builds computers to order for education, 
government, and corporate customers. Several years ago, it deployed Red Hat 
and Mandrake versions of Linux to support its corporate, retail and 
e-commerce applications. Challenged with high costs, CBW subsequently 
migrated to Microsoft Windows Server System, and reduced its total cost of 
ownership by 25 percent. It also consolidated its server population by 50 
percent, reduced maintenance time by 50 percent, and boosted developer 
productivity by 200 percent. These benefits - totaling $650,000 in savings - 
are dwarfed by the millions of dollars in new revenue that CBW expects as a 
result of bringing a key security and monitoring product to market more than 
two years faster than it could have done using Linux. (CBW Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.aspx?CaseStudyID=15131)

SECURITY

About three years ago, we made software security a top priority, and since 
then we've invested heavily in a multi-pronged effort to improve software 
quality and development processes, and to reduce risks for customers through 
education and guidance, industry collaboration and enforcement. I think it's 
fair to say that no other software platform has invested as much in security 
R&D, process improvements and customer education as we have at Microsoft.

Still, Linux has often been touted as a more secure platform. In part, this 
is because of the "many eyeballs" maxim of open source software that claims 
a correlation between the number of developers looking at code and the 
number of bugs found and resolved. While this has some validity, it is not 
necessarily the best way to develop secure software. We believe in the 
effectiveness of a structured software engineering process that includes a 
deep focus on quality, technology advances, and vigorous testing to make 
software more secure.

A number of third-party reports have questioned how safe the Linux platform 
really is. For example, a recent independent study by Forrester, Is Linux 
More Secure than Windows?, highlighted that the four major Linux 
distributions have a higher incidence and severity of vulnerabilities, and 
are slower than Microsoft to provide security updates.

According to Forrester, Microsoft had the lowest elapsed time between 
disclosure of a vulnerability and the release of a fix. They found that 
Microsoft addressed all of the 128 publicly disclosed security flaws in 
Windows over the 12-month period studied, and that its security updates 
predated major outbreaks by an average of 305 days.

Other independent sources of data show similar conclusions. According to 
statistics posted on the security Web site Secunia 
(http://secunia.com/product/2535#statistics_month), Red Hat Enterprise Linux 
3 has averaged 7.4 security advisories per month, compared with 1.7 
advisories for Windows Server 2003.

And as Yankee Group noted in its Linux, UNIX and Windows TCO Comparison 
study, "Linux-specific worms and viruses are every bit as pernicious as 
their UNIX and Windows counterparts - and in many cases they are much more 
stealthy."

This was a deciding factor in farmaCity's selection of Windows over Linux. 
Headquartered in Buenos Aires, farmaCity is a rapidly growing Argentinian 
drugstore chain with 50 outlets and 1,200 employees. Although farmaCity's 
growth in recent years was a testament to its success, the company's aging 
technology infrastructure had become a hindrance to further expansion. After 
careful analysis, farmaCity concluded that Windows would reduce network 
administration by 30 percent compared with Linux, and would also simplify 
identity and desktop management. But the core reason for selecting Microsoft 
was the increase in network security, complemented by the ability to reduce 
patch-deployment time by 50 percent while cutting unsolicited e-mail by 
half. (farmaCity Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.aspx?CaseStudyID=15269)

INDEMNIFICATION

Increasingly, we're hearing from customers that another factor in their 
consideration of computing platforms is indemnification. In 2003, we looked 
at our volume licensing contracts to see what we could do to increase 
customer satisfaction, and a top issue we heard about was patent 
indemnification, which then was capped at the amount the customer had paid 
for the software. So later that year, we lifted that cap for our volume 
licensing customers, who are most likely to be the target of an intellectual 
property lawsuit.

Today, when a volume licensing customer - a business or organization ranging 
from as few as five computers to many thousands - licenses a Microsoft 
product, we provide uncapped protection for legal costs associated with a 
patent, copyright, trademark or trade secret claim alleging infringement by 
a Microsoft product. We do this because we are proud to stand behind our 
products, and because we understand that being on the wrong end of a 
software patent lawsuit could cost a customer millions of dollars, and 
massively disrupt their business.

No vendor today stands behind Linux with full IP indemnification. In fact, 
it is rare for open source software to provide customers with any 
indemnification at all. We think Microsoft's indemnification already is one 
of the best offered by the leading players in the industry for volume 
licensing customers, and we're looking at ways to expand it to an even 
broader set of our customers. It's definitely something businesses want to 
think about as they're building or expanding their IT infrastructure.

It was certainly a factor for Regal Entertainment Group, the largest movie 
theatre chain in the world. In 2001, they moved to Red Hat Linux. After 
evaluating Linux in their business for several months, however, they 
migrated to the Microsoft platform - not only because of lower TCO, stronger 
support and services, and greater reliability and manageability, but because 
they were more fully indemnified on IP. J.E. Henry, CIO of Regal 
Entertainment, told me that "reduced risk was a decision factor in selecting 
Windows over Linux. We needed to minimize our exposure to the distraction of 
potential IP infringement claims, and we had a big enough open source 
presence to be concerned. With the way that Microsoft stands behind its 
products, it's one less thing that I have to worry about."

UNIX MIGRATION

One of the hot topics among enterprise IT and business decision makers today 
is the costs and benefits of migrating enterprise resource planning systems 
(ERP) from costly, proprietary UNIX environments to Windows or other 
platforms. ERP integrates various company functions such as human resources, 
inventories and financials, and links a company to its vendors and 
customers.

An independent, qualitative survey of organizations that recently completed 
a migration of their SAP or PeopleSoft ERP system from a UNIX environment to 
the Microsoft Windows Server platform found a more than 20% reduction in the 
number of servers required compared with UNIX. The survey, by META Group, 
found that in one large telecommunications company, consolidation on Windows 
allowed a greater than 50 percent reduction in the number of required 
servers.

The survey also found a more than 50 percent improvement in areas such as 
reliability, accessibility and scalability; significant savings in cost 
management, IT staffing, performance monitoring and vendor management; and 
measurable savings in technical support and training. More than half of 
business function decision makers also saw significant improvements in areas 
such as consistency, accuracy, reporting enhancement and performance.

"Windows is now a mainstream option for the vast majority of ERP projects," 
META Group concluded.

A great case study is the Raiffeisen Bank Group, the largest private bank 
group in Austria with about 2,600 branches. It wanted to reduce costs and 
provide better customer service by consolidating the number of servers in 
its branches by 50 percent. Raiffeisen investigated migrating from UNIX to 
either Linux or Windows. After evaluating the possible solutions, the 
company found that Windows Server 2003 would provide the most economical 
solution along with better performance, while giving bank employees an 
integrated view of customer information that they needed to improve customer 
service. (Raiffeisen Bank Group Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.aspx?CaseStudyID=15519)

One of our mid-market customers had a similar experience. Grand Expeditions 
is a consortium of luxury travel companies that significantly reduced its 
Web development and hosting costs, and improved site reliability and 
performance, by moving from a combination of Linux- and UNIX-based servers 
to Windows Server 2003 and the Windows Server System. The new system was up 
and running in just 60 days, and is saving Grand Expeditions $200,000 a 
year. (Grand Expeditions Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.aspx?CaseStudyID=15397)

IN CLOSING...

There is no question that customers are benefiting today from a healthy, 
competitive IT industry. Competition requires companies to really focus in 
on what customers want and need. At the same time, customers have a clearer 
opportunity than ever before to evaluate choices.

For example, BET.com, the Internet portal created by Viacom subsidiary BET 
Networks, did an in-depth comparison of Red Hat Linux and Windows Server 
System. They found that Windows offered 30% lower TCO, was more secure and 
reliable, and enabled quicker time to market. As BET.com's CTO, Navarrow 
Wright, said: "When I looked at all the costs - not just the straight price 
of software - a Windows Server System-based solution made better financial 
sense than sticking with our Sun and Oracle environment or switching to 
Linux. We decided to migrate the whole enterprise from various software 
vendors to standardize all of our software on Microsoft."

By implementing Windows Server 2003, Windows XP Professional, Office 
Professional Edition 2003, Exchange Server 2003, Content Management Server 
2003 and Visual Studio .NET 2003, BET.com conservatively estimated that its 
workforce will increase productivity by 25-30%, while saving significantly 
in licensing and redevelopment costs.

As organizations increasingly rely on IT to perform mission-critical 
functions, and with complexity a growing challenge, choosing the right 
computing platform for the long term can make the difference between profit 
and loss, and between future success and failure. And it's pretty clear that 
the facts show that Windows provides a lower total cost of ownership than 
Linux; the number of security vulnerabilities is lower on Windows, and 
Windows responsiveness on security is better than Linux; and Microsoft 
provides uncapped IP indemnification of their products, while no such 
comprehensive offering is available for Linux or open source.

The vision and benefits of an integrated platform are what distinguish 
Microsoft's approach to software. The Windows platform today offers an 
unmatched level of value, applications availability, simplicity, security 
and productivity. For Microsoft, this is truly a cross-company effort that 
requires the server and client operating systems to seamlessly deliver great 
usability and manageability features, applications that deliver compelling 
scenarios, and tools that enable developers and ISVs to easily and quickly 
build new applications on the platform.

It's important that customers have all the information they need when making 
critical and expensive IT decisions. If the evidence at our 
www.microsoft.com/getthefacts Web site doesn't sufficiently convey the 
benefits and value of the Microsoft platform, we want to hear from you so we 
can work even harder to get that information to you. If you would like to 
have a more detailed discussion about your company's IT needs, email Martin 
Taylor at martinta at microsoft.com.

Steve Ballmer

To contact Microsoft, write to us at One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Wash, 
98052. To manage your Microsoft.com subscriptions, please sign in at the 
Microsoft Profile Center here: http://g.microsoft.com/mh_mshp/48. To see the 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 28 03:26:13 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:26:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux and
	UNIX
In-Reply-To: <010d01c4bc9c$7aa1ca40$6701a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIIEIJCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Rocky:

Thanks for passing on the information. What I found most interesting, in the
article was:

<extract>
...All 14 companies said it was difficult finding qualified Linux personnel
in the marketplace to support their Linux projects. When they did find
third-party help, they had less leverage negotiating hourly rates than with
Windows consulting resources....
</extract>

That very comment makes me more interested in recommending and getting more
involved with Linux. The market is currently so saturated with Windows Techs
that the industry rate of pay is about $16.00 Canadian or $13.00 US per
hour...which is ridiculous... except for young individuals, still at home
with their folks. Being in a position to negotiate a fair wage package is
not a down-side as far as I am concerned.

That's my two cents.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:16 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux and
UNIX


Steve sent me this personal message.  Wanted me to know.  Thought you all
should as well.

Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Ballmer" <steveballmer at ceo.microsoft.com>
To: <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:34 PM
Subject: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux and UNIX


In the thousands of meetings that Microsoft employees have with customers
around the world every day, many of the same questions consistently surface:
Does an open source platform really provide a long-term cost advantage
compared with Windows? Which platform offers the most secure computing
environment? Given the growing concern among customers about intellectual
property indemnification, what's the best way to minimize risk? In moving
from an expensive UNIX platform, what's the best alternative in terms of
migration?

Customers want factual information to help them make the best decisions
about these issues. About a year ago, a senior Microsoft team led by General
Manager Martin Taylor was created to figure out how we could do a better job
helping customers evaluate our products against alternatives such as
Linux/open source and proprietary UNIX. This team has worked with a number
of top analyst firms that have generated independent, third-party reports on
cost of acquisition, total cost of ownership, security and indemnification.
Some of the studies were commissioned by Microsoft, while others were
initiated and funded by the analysts. In each case, the research
methodology, findings and conclusions were the sole domain of the analyst
firms. This was essential: we wanted truly independent, factual information.

At the same time, our worldwide sales organization is going even deeper with
customers to understand their needs and create a feedback loop with our
product development teams that enables us to deliver integrated solutions
that support real-world customer scenarios, and comprehensively address
issues such as manageability, ease of use and reliability.

I'm writing to you and other business decision makers and IT professionals
today to share some of the data around these key issues - and to provide
examples of customers who opted to go with the Windows platform rather than
Linux or UNIX, and how that's playing out for them in the real world. Much
more information on this is at www.microsoft.com/getthefacts.

This email is one in an occasional series of emails from Microsoft
executives about technology and public-policy issues important to computer
users, our industry, and anyone who cares about the future of high
technology. If you would like to receive these emails in the future, please
go to
http://register.microsoft.com/subscription/subscribeMe.asp?lcid=1033&id=155
to subscribe.

TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP AND ACQUISITION COSTS

In the past few years, you haven't been able to open a computing magazine or
visit a technology Web site without running into an article about Linux and
open source. Not surprising: who doesn't like the idea of a "free" operating
system that just about anyone can tinker with?

But as the Yankee Group commented in an independent, non-sponsored global
study of 1,000 IT administrators and executives, Linux, UNIX and Windows TCO
Comparison, things aren't always as they seem: "All of the major Linux
vendors and distributors (including Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Novell [SUSE and
Ximian] and Red Hat) have begun charging hefty premiums for must-have items
such as technical service and support, product warranties and licensing
indemnification."

Yankee's study concluded that, in large enterprises, a significant Linux
deployment or total switch from Windows to Linux would be three to four
times more expensive - and take three times as long to deploy - as an
upgrade from one version of Windows to a newer release. And nine out of 10
enterprise customers said that such a change wouldn't provide any tangible
business gains.

Yankee also noted that, for larger organizations with complex computer
networks, it's important to look beyond Linux's initial low investment cost
and consider all of the TCO and ROI factors.

This is exactly what one of our large enterprise customers, Equifax, did
recently. Equifax, a $1.2 billion U.S.-based enterprise with 4,600 employees
in 13 countries, needed more computing power than its mainframe systems
could deliver for rapidly searching the company's vast marketing database.
They spent several months conducting an internal analysis, which proved
that, compared with Linux, Windows would realize a 14% cost savings and
shorten their time to market by six months. (Equifax Case Study -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15528)

Another comprehensive, non-sponsored study by Forrester, entitled The Costs
and Risks of Open Source, drew a similar conclusion: "The allure of free
software is accelerating the deployment of open source platforms, but open
source is not free and may actually increase financial and business risks."

In early 2004, Forrester conducted in-depth discussions with 14 companies
that had been running Linux platforms for longer than one year to see what
the costs really were. Several key themes emerged:

- Few companies know what they're really spending. Only five of the 14 kept
detailed metrics - and each of those five found Linux more expensive (5% to
20%) than their current Microsoft environments.

- Preparation and planning activities took 5% to 25% longer for Linux than
Windows.

- Training for IT employees was significantly higher for Linux than for
Windows - on average, 15% more expensive. The reasons: training materials
were less readily available, and customers spent more on training to
compensate for the lack of internal knowledge about Linux.

- All 14 companies said it was difficult finding qualified Linux personnel
in the marketplace to support their Linux projects. When they did find
third-party help, they had less leverage negotiating hourly rates than with
Windows consulting resources.

One of our mid-market customers, Computer Builders Warehouse (CBW), came to
a similar conclusion. CBW builds computers to order for education,
government, and corporate customers. Several years ago, it deployed Red Hat
and Mandrake versions of Linux to support its corporate, retail and
e-commerce applications. Challenged with high costs, CBW subsequently
migrated to Microsoft Windows Server System, and reduced its total cost of
ownership by 25 percent. It also consolidated its server population by 50
percent, reduced maintenance time by 50 percent, and boosted developer
productivity by 200 percent. These benefits - totaling $650,000 in savings -
are dwarfed by the millions of dollars in new revenue that CBW expects as a
result of bringing a key security and monitoring product to market more than
two years faster than it could have done using Linux. (CBW Case Study -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15131)

SECURITY

About three years ago, we made software security a top priority, and since
then we've invested heavily in a multi-pronged effort to improve software
quality and development processes, and to reduce risks for customers through
education and guidance, industry collaboration and enforcement. I think it's
fair to say that no other software platform has invested as much in security
R&D, process improvements and customer education as we have at Microsoft.

Still, Linux has often been touted as a more secure platform. In part, this
is because of the "many eyeballs" maxim of open source software that claims
a correlation between the number of developers looking at code and the
number of bugs found and resolved. While this has some validity, it is not
necessarily the best way to develop secure software. We believe in the
effectiveness of a structured software engineering process that includes a
deep focus on quality, technology advances, and vigorous testing to make
software more secure.

A number of third-party reports have questioned how safe the Linux platform
really is. For example, a recent independent study by Forrester, Is Linux
More Secure than Windows?, highlighted that the four major Linux
distributions have a higher incidence and severity of vulnerabilities, and
are slower than Microsoft to provide security updates.

According to Forrester, Microsoft had the lowest elapsed time between
disclosure of a vulnerability and the release of a fix. They found that
Microsoft addressed all of the 128 publicly disclosed security flaws in
Windows over the 12-month period studied, and that its security updates
predated major outbreaks by an average of 305 days.

Other independent sources of data show similar conclusions. According to
statistics posted on the security Web site Secunia
(http://secunia.com/product/2535#statistics_month), Red Hat Enterprise Linux
3 has averaged 7.4 security advisories per month, compared with 1.7
advisories for Windows Server 2003.

And as Yankee Group noted in its Linux, UNIX and Windows TCO Comparison
study, "Linux-specific worms and viruses are every bit as pernicious as
their UNIX and Windows counterparts - and in many cases they are much more
stealthy."

This was a deciding factor in farmaCity's selection of Windows over Linux.
Headquartered in Buenos Aires, farmaCity is a rapidly growing Argentinian
drugstore chain with 50 outlets and 1,200 employees. Although farmaCity's
growth in recent years was a testament to its success, the company's aging
technology infrastructure had become a hindrance to further expansion. After
careful analysis, farmaCity concluded that Windows would reduce network
administration by 30 percent compared with Linux, and would also simplify
identity and desktop management. But the core reason for selecting Microsoft
was the increase in network security, complemented by the ability to reduce
patch-deployment time by 50 percent while cutting unsolicited e-mail by
half. (farmaCity Case Study -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15269)

INDEMNIFICATION

Increasingly, we're hearing from customers that another factor in their
consideration of computing platforms is indemnification. In 2003, we looked
at our volume licensing contracts to see what we could do to increase
customer satisfaction, and a top issue we heard about was patent
indemnification, which then was capped at the amount the customer had paid
for the software. So later that year, we lifted that cap for our volume
licensing customers, who are most likely to be the target of an intellectual
property lawsuit.

Today, when a volume licensing customer - a business or organization ranging
from as few as five computers to many thousands - licenses a Microsoft
product, we provide uncapped protection for legal costs associated with a
patent, copyright, trademark or trade secret claim alleging infringement by
a Microsoft product. We do this because we are proud to stand behind our
products, and because we understand that being on the wrong end of a
software patent lawsuit could cost a customer millions of dollars, and
massively disrupt their business.

No vendor today stands behind Linux with full IP indemnification. In fact,
it is rare for open source software to provide customers with any
indemnification at all. We think Microsoft's indemnification already is one
of the best offered by the leading players in the industry for volume
licensing customers, and we're looking at ways to expand it to an even
broader set of our customers. It's definitely something businesses want to
think about as they're building or expanding their IT infrastructure.

It was certainly a factor for Regal Entertainment Group, the largest movie
theatre chain in the world. In 2001, they moved to Red Hat Linux. After
evaluating Linux in their business for several months, however, they
migrated to the Microsoft platform - not only because of lower TCO, stronger
support and services, and greater reliability and manageability, but because
they were more fully indemnified on IP. J.E. Henry, CIO of Regal
Entertainment, told me that "reduced risk was a decision factor in selecting
Windows over Linux. We needed to minimize our exposure to the distraction of
potential IP infringement claims, and we had a big enough open source
presence to be concerned. With the way that Microsoft stands behind its
products, it's one less thing that I have to worry about."

UNIX MIGRATION

One of the hot topics among enterprise IT and business decision makers today
is the costs and benefits of migrating enterprise resource planning systems
(ERP) from costly, proprietary UNIX environments to Windows or other
platforms. ERP integrates various company functions such as human resources,
inventories and financials, and links a company to its vendors and
customers.

An independent, qualitative survey of organizations that recently completed
a migration of their SAP or PeopleSoft ERP system from a UNIX environment to
the Microsoft Windows Server platform found a more than 20% reduction in the
number of servers required compared with UNIX. The survey, by META Group,
found that in one large telecommunications company, consolidation on Windows
allowed a greater than 50 percent reduction in the number of required
servers.

The survey also found a more than 50 percent improvement in areas such as
reliability, accessibility and scalability; significant savings in cost
management, IT staffing, performance monitoring and vendor management; and
measurable savings in technical support and training. More than half of
business function decision makers also saw significant improvements in areas
such as consistency, accuracy, reporting enhancement and performance.

"Windows is now a mainstream option for the vast majority of ERP projects,"
META Group concluded.

A great case study is the Raiffeisen Bank Group, the largest private bank
group in Austria with about 2,600 branches. It wanted to reduce costs and
provide better customer service by consolidating the number of servers in
its branches by 50 percent. Raiffeisen investigated migrating from UNIX to
either Linux or Windows. After evaluating the possible solutions, the
company found that Windows Server 2003 would provide the most economical
solution along with better performance, while giving bank employees an
integrated view of customer information that they needed to improve customer
service. (Raiffeisen Bank Group Case Study -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15519)

One of our mid-market customers had a similar experience. Grand Expeditions
is a consortium of luxury travel companies that significantly reduced its
Web development and hosting costs, and improved site reliability and
performance, by moving from a combination of Linux- and UNIX-based servers
to Windows Server 2003 and the Windows Server System. The new system was up
and running in just 60 days, and is saving Grand Expeditions $200,000 a
year. (Grand Expeditions Case Study -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15397)

IN CLOSING...

There is no question that customers are benefiting today from a healthy,
competitive IT industry. Competition requires companies to really focus in
on what customers want and need. At the same time, customers have a clearer
opportunity than ever before to evaluate choices.

For example, BET.com, the Internet portal created by Viacom subsidiary BET
Networks, did an in-depth comparison of Red Hat Linux and Windows Server
System. They found that Windows offered 30% lower TCO, was more secure and
reliable, and enabled quicker time to market. As BET.com's CTO, Navarrow
Wright, said: "When I looked at all the costs - not just the straight price
of software - a Windows Server System-based solution made better financial
sense than sticking with our Sun and Oracle environment or switching to
Linux. We decided to migrate the whole enterprise from various software
vendors to standardize all of our software on Microsoft."

By implementing Windows Server 2003, Windows XP Professional, Office
Professional Edition 2003, Exchange Server 2003, Content Management Server
2003 and Visual Studio .NET 2003, BET.com conservatively estimated that its
workforce will increase productivity by 25-30%, while saving significantly
in licensing and redevelopment costs.

As organizations increasingly rely on IT to perform mission-critical
functions, and with complexity a growing challenge, choosing the right
computing platform for the long term can make the difference between profit
and loss, and between future success and failure. And it's pretty clear that
the facts show that Windows provides a lower total cost of ownership than
Linux; the number of security vulnerabilities is lower on Windows, and
Windows responsiveness on security is better than Linux; and Microsoft
provides uncapped IP indemnification of their products, while no such
comprehensive offering is available for Linux or open source.

The vision and benefits of an integrated platform are what distinguish
Microsoft's approach to software. The Windows platform today offers an
unmatched level of value, applications availability, simplicity, security
and productivity. For Microsoft, this is truly a cross-company effort that
requires the server and client operating systems to seamlessly deliver great
usability and manageability features, applications that deliver compelling
scenarios, and tools that enable developers and ISVs to easily and quickly
build new applications on the platform.

It's important that customers have all the information they need when making
critical and expensive IT decisions. If the evidence at our
www.microsoft.com/getthefacts Web site doesn't sufficiently convey the
benefits and value of the Microsoft platform, we want to hear from you so we
can work even harder to get that information to you. If you would like to
have a more detailed discussion about your company's IT needs, email Martin
Taylor at martinta at microsoft.com.

Steve Ballmer

To contact Microsoft, write to us at One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Wash,
98052. To manage your Microsoft.com subscriptions, please sign in at the
Microsoft Profile Center here: http://g.microsoft.com/mh_mshp/48. To see the
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 28 04:39:02 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:39:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Animation e.g. gif?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041027130404.01381e00@pop3.highstream.net>
Message-ID: <20041028093902.32468.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com>

:-)
 
you should see this app! Here's a nice example:
 ''Added 17-05-2002, Star Wars 2: Attack of the Clones premier day!
Go figure...but we all have to start somewhere.
 
However I do not think that an hourglass gif for a very long proces is a 'childish look'.
 
thnks anyway


"Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net> wrote:
Sander,

Access is a database program, not a tinker toy graphics
program.

The simple answer is "no."

The complex answer is:

If you want to slow the form to a crawl and give it an
unprofessional, childish look, you can use the timer
event to make things happen on the form that looks
like animation.

Access simply does not have the event model to do it.

Hummm, did my prejudice about Mickey Mouse design
show????

Robert

At 12:00 PM 10/27/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:03:38 -0700 (PDT)
>From: S D 
>Subject: [AccessD] Animation e.g. gif?
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Message-ID: <20041027130338.31864.qmail at web61110.mail.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Hi group,
>
>is it possible to add an animation to my Acces form with STANDARD Access 
>2000 controls?
>
>And I mean STANDARD! No, dll's or anything like it.
>
>Tia.
>Sander


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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 28 04:54:37 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 02:54:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging + UpdateBatch?
Message-ID: <20041028095437.20417.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi group,
 
I've got a A2K (that needs to migrate to XP) app that needs to import a flatfile.
A 267kb file takes about 25-28 HOURS(!!) to proces. Yes, it's a slow network.
I need to improve this.
This is how it 'works' now:
1 - read the file on the network to determine the number of lines
2 - start a for x=0 to NumberOfLines loop
3 - check the first x characters in the line
4 - create a new record in a table (table depends on step 3, there are 5 different tables to store the records)
5 - execute an update
6 - goto the next record
 
Here's how I want to do it:
1 - copy the file from the network to the desktop
2 - import the complete file in a staging table
3 - Use an UpdateBatch mechanisme to update the BE.
 
Question:
How can i implement this UpdateBatch? I mean I have to store the records for each table 
and after the complete file is processed I want to update all tables.
 
Question:
I need to implement a transaction. If the processing failes somewhere I need to rollback the changes (if I use an updatebatch this is probably not necesseray but it's good programming I think)
 
any tips/advice is greatly appreciated!!
 
Regards,
 
Sander

		
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Oct 28 05:18:31 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:18:31 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging +
	UpdateBatch?
In-Reply-To: <20041028095437.20417.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041028095437.20417.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <19614813350.20041028121831@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

First, reading a 0,25 MB file off the network should be fast, no need
to copy the file first. But that is easy to test ... just try with a
local copy.

Second, you can read the file directly with a query as you did for
exporting.
Then use this query as the source for three append queries, one for
each table. Further, this step you can wrap in a
BeginTrans/CommitTrans to give you the option of rolling back.

/gustav


> Hi group,
 
> I've got a A2K (that needs to migrate to XP) app that needs to import a flatfile.
> A 267kb file takes about 25-28 HOURS(!!) to proces. Yes, it's a slow network.
> I need to improve this.
> This is how it 'works' now:
> 1 - read the file on the network to determine the number of lines
> 2 - start a for x=0 to NumberOfLines loop
> 3 - check the first x characters in the line
> 4 - create a new record in a table (table depends on step 3, there are 5 different tables to store the records)
> 5 - execute an update
> 6 - goto the next record
 
> Here's how I want to do it:
> 1 - copy the file from the network to the desktop
> 2 - import the complete file in a staging table
> 3 - Use an UpdateBatch mechanisme to update the BE.
 
> Question:
> How can i implement this UpdateBatch? I mean I have to store the records for each table 
> and after the complete file is processed I want to update all tables.
 
> Question:
> I need to implement a transaction. If the processing failes somewhere I need to rollback the changes (if I use an updatebatch this is probably not necesseray but it's good programming I think)
 
> any tips/advice is greatly appreciated!!
 
> Regards,
 
> Sander



From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 28 08:24:35 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:24:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging +
	UpdateBatch?
In-Reply-To: <20041028095437.20417.qmail@web61105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEILCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Sander:

I was working on a contract to roll-out an update inventory database, for a
number of stores, this summer. The system had each computer, with it's own
full database, which could be fully independent (in the event of a
catastrophic failure on the LAN, the POS system had to run). After the
database was rebuilt on the server, it was then transferred to each station
across the LAN. The late-night process could take 20 to 30 minutes per
station. Given that some sites had ten terminals the process would have been
very time-consuming.

We sped the process by zipping the master DB and then broadcasting the
result. It would now only take three minutes per station, as the database
and in your case, a flat-file, compress down very nicely.

HTH
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:55 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging +
UpdateBatch?


Hi group,

I've got a A2K (that needs to migrate to XP) app that needs to import a
flatfile.
A 267kb file takes about 25-28 HOURS(!!) to proces. Yes, it's a slow
network.
I need to improve this.
This is how it 'works' now:
1 - read the file on the network to determine the number of lines
2 - start a for x=0 to NumberOfLines loop
3 - check the first x characters in the line
4 - create a new record in a table (table depends on step 3, there are 5
different tables to store the records)
5 - execute an update
6 - goto the next record

Here's how I want to do it:
1 - copy the file from the network to the desktop
2 - import the complete file in a staging table
3 - Use an UpdateBatch mechanisme to update the BE.

Question:
How can i implement this UpdateBatch? I mean I have to store the records for
each table
and after the complete file is processed I want to update all tables.

Question:
I need to implement a transaction. If the processing failes somewhere I need
to rollback the changes (if I use an updatebatch this is probably not
necesseray but it's good programming I think)

any tips/advice is greatly appreciated!!

Regards,

Sander


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From JColby at dispec.com  Thu Oct 28 08:38:58 2004
From: JColby at dispec.com (Colby, John)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 09:38:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux an
	d UNIX
Message-ID: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F10CBF941@DISABILITYINS01>

Rocky,

I invited Steve to dinner this weekend to discuss just this issue.  He says
Bill wants to come as well, and he specifically asked if you would be there.
Can you make it?  It'll be Saturday night, 8:00 pm.  Plan on a late night,
you know how these guys can gab.

John W. Colby
The DIS Database Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:16 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux and
UNIX


Steve sent me this personal message.  Wanted me to know.  Thought you all 
should as well.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Ballmer" <steveballmer at ceo.microsoft.com>
To: <bchacc at san.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:34 PM
Subject: Customer Focus: Comparing Windows with Linux and UNIX


In the thousands of meetings that Microsoft employees have with customers 
around the world every day, many of the same questions consistently surface:

Does an open source platform really provide a long-term cost advantage 
compared with Windows? Which platform offers the most secure computing 
environment? Given the growing concern among customers about intellectual 
property indemnification, what's the best way to minimize risk? In moving 
from an expensive UNIX platform, what's the best alternative in terms of 
migration?

Customers want factual information to help them make the best decisions 
about these issues. About a year ago, a senior Microsoft team led by General

Manager Martin Taylor was created to figure out how we could do a better job

helping customers evaluate our products against alternatives such as 
Linux/open source and proprietary UNIX. This team has worked with a number 
of top analyst firms that have generated independent, third-party reports on

cost of acquisition, total cost of ownership, security and indemnification. 
Some of the studies were commissioned by Microsoft, while others were 
initiated and funded by the analysts. In each case, the research 
methodology, findings and conclusions were the sole domain of the analyst 
firms. This was essential: we wanted truly independent, factual information.

At the same time, our worldwide sales organization is going even deeper with

customers to understand their needs and create a feedback loop with our 
product development teams that enables us to deliver integrated solutions 
that support real-world customer scenarios, and comprehensively address 
issues such as manageability, ease of use and reliability.

I'm writing to you and other business decision makers and IT professionals 
today to share some of the data around these key issues - and to provide 
examples of customers who opted to go with the Windows platform rather than 
Linux or UNIX, and how that's playing out for them in the real world. Much 
more information on this is at www.microsoft.com/getthefacts.

This email is one in an occasional series of emails from Microsoft 
executives about technology and public-policy issues important to computer 
users, our industry, and anyone who cares about the future of high 
technology. If you would like to receive these emails in the future, please 
go to 
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to subscribe.

TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP AND ACQUISITION COSTS

In the past few years, you haven't been able to open a computing magazine or

visit a technology Web site without running into an article about Linux and 
open source. Not surprising: who doesn't like the idea of a "free" operating

system that just about anyone can tinker with?

But as the Yankee Group commented in an independent, non-sponsored global 
study of 1,000 IT administrators and executives, Linux, UNIX and Windows TCO

Comparison, things aren't always as they seem: "All of the major Linux 
vendors and distributors (including Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Novell [SUSE and 
Ximian] and Red Hat) have begun charging hefty premiums for must-have items 
such as technical service and support, product warranties and licensing 
indemnification."

Yankee's study concluded that, in large enterprises, a significant Linux 
deployment or total switch from Windows to Linux would be three to four 
times more expensive - and take three times as long to deploy - as an 
upgrade from one version of Windows to a newer release. And nine out of 10 
enterprise customers said that such a change wouldn't provide any tangible 
business gains.

Yankee also noted that, for larger organizations with complex computer 
networks, it's important to look beyond Linux's initial low investment cost 
and consider all of the TCO and ROI factors.

This is exactly what one of our large enterprise customers, Equifax, did 
recently. Equifax, a $1.2 billion U.S.-based enterprise with 4,600 employees

in 13 countries, needed more computing power than its mainframe systems 
could deliver for rapidly searching the company's vast marketing database. 
They spent several months conducting an internal analysis, which proved 
that, compared with Linux, Windows would realize a 14% cost savings and 
shorten their time to market by six months. (Equifax Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15528)

Another comprehensive, non-sponsored study by Forrester, entitled The Costs 
and Risks of Open Source, drew a similar conclusion: "The allure of free 
software is accelerating the deployment of open source platforms, but open 
source is not free and may actually increase financial and business risks."

In early 2004, Forrester conducted in-depth discussions with 14 companies 
that had been running Linux platforms for longer than one year to see what 
the costs really were. Several key themes emerged:

- Few companies know what they're really spending. Only five of the 14 kept 
detailed metrics - and each of those five found Linux more expensive (5% to 
20%) than their current Microsoft environments.

- Preparation and planning activities took 5% to 25% longer for Linux than 
Windows.

- Training for IT employees was significantly higher for Linux than for 
Windows - on average, 15% more expensive. The reasons: training materials 
were less readily available, and customers spent more on training to 
compensate for the lack of internal knowledge about Linux.

- All 14 companies said it was difficult finding qualified Linux personnel 
in the marketplace to support their Linux projects. When they did find 
third-party help, they had less leverage negotiating hourly rates than with 
Windows consulting resources.

One of our mid-market customers, Computer Builders Warehouse (CBW), came to 
a similar conclusion. CBW builds computers to order for education, 
government, and corporate customers. Several years ago, it deployed Red Hat 
and Mandrake versions of Linux to support its corporate, retail and 
e-commerce applications. Challenged with high costs, CBW subsequently 
migrated to Microsoft Windows Server System, and reduced its total cost of 
ownership by 25 percent. It also consolidated its server population by 50 
percent, reduced maintenance time by 50 percent, and boosted developer 
productivity by 200 percent. These benefits - totaling $650,000 in savings -

are dwarfed by the millions of dollars in new revenue that CBW expects as a 
result of bringing a key security and monitoring product to market more than

two years faster than it could have done using Linux. (CBW Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15131)

SECURITY

About three years ago, we made software security a top priority, and since 
then we've invested heavily in a multi-pronged effort to improve software 
quality and development processes, and to reduce risks for customers through

education and guidance, industry collaboration and enforcement. I think it's

fair to say that no other software platform has invested as much in security

R&D, process improvements and customer education as we have at Microsoft.

Still, Linux has often been touted as a more secure platform. In part, this 
is because of the "many eyeballs" maxim of open source software that claims 
a correlation between the number of developers looking at code and the 
number of bugs found and resolved. While this has some validity, it is not 
necessarily the best way to develop secure software. We believe in the 
effectiveness of a structured software engineering process that includes a 
deep focus on quality, technology advances, and vigorous testing to make 
software more secure.

A number of third-party reports have questioned how safe the Linux platform 
really is. For example, a recent independent study by Forrester, Is Linux 
More Secure than Windows?, highlighted that the four major Linux 
distributions have a higher incidence and severity of vulnerabilities, and 
are slower than Microsoft to provide security updates.

According to Forrester, Microsoft had the lowest elapsed time between 
disclosure of a vulnerability and the release of a fix. They found that 
Microsoft addressed all of the 128 publicly disclosed security flaws in 
Windows over the 12-month period studied, and that its security updates 
predated major outbreaks by an average of 305 days.

Other independent sources of data show similar conclusions. According to 
statistics posted on the security Web site Secunia 
(http://secunia.com/product/2535#statistics_month), Red Hat Enterprise Linux

3 has averaged 7.4 security advisories per month, compared with 1.7 
advisories for Windows Server 2003.

And as Yankee Group noted in its Linux, UNIX and Windows TCO Comparison 
study, "Linux-specific worms and viruses are every bit as pernicious as 
their UNIX and Windows counterparts - and in many cases they are much more 
stealthy."

This was a deciding factor in farmaCity's selection of Windows over Linux. 
Headquartered in Buenos Aires, farmaCity is a rapidly growing Argentinian 
drugstore chain with 50 outlets and 1,200 employees. Although farmaCity's 
growth in recent years was a testament to its success, the company's aging 
technology infrastructure had become a hindrance to further expansion. After

careful analysis, farmaCity concluded that Windows would reduce network 
administration by 30 percent compared with Linux, and would also simplify 
identity and desktop management. But the core reason for selecting Microsoft

was the increase in network security, complemented by the ability to reduce 
patch-deployment time by 50 percent while cutting unsolicited e-mail by 
half. (farmaCity Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15269)

INDEMNIFICATION

Increasingly, we're hearing from customers that another factor in their 
consideration of computing platforms is indemnification. In 2003, we looked 
at our volume licensing contracts to see what we could do to increase 
customer satisfaction, and a top issue we heard about was patent 
indemnification, which then was capped at the amount the customer had paid 
for the software. So later that year, we lifted that cap for our volume 
licensing customers, who are most likely to be the target of an intellectual

property lawsuit.

Today, when a volume licensing customer - a business or organization ranging

from as few as five computers to many thousands - licenses a Microsoft 
product, we provide uncapped protection for legal costs associated with a 
patent, copyright, trademark or trade secret claim alleging infringement by 
a Microsoft product. We do this because we are proud to stand behind our 
products, and because we understand that being on the wrong end of a 
software patent lawsuit could cost a customer millions of dollars, and 
massively disrupt their business.

No vendor today stands behind Linux with full IP indemnification. In fact, 
it is rare for open source software to provide customers with any 
indemnification at all. We think Microsoft's indemnification already is one 
of the best offered by the leading players in the industry for volume 
licensing customers, and we're looking at ways to expand it to an even 
broader set of our customers. It's definitely something businesses want to 
think about as they're building or expanding their IT infrastructure.

It was certainly a factor for Regal Entertainment Group, the largest movie 
theatre chain in the world. In 2001, they moved to Red Hat Linux. After 
evaluating Linux in their business for several months, however, they 
migrated to the Microsoft platform - not only because of lower TCO, stronger

support and services, and greater reliability and manageability, but because

they were more fully indemnified on IP. J.E. Henry, CIO of Regal 
Entertainment, told me that "reduced risk was a decision factor in selecting

Windows over Linux. We needed to minimize our exposure to the distraction of

potential IP infringement claims, and we had a big enough open source 
presence to be concerned. With the way that Microsoft stands behind its 
products, it's one less thing that I have to worry about."

UNIX MIGRATION

One of the hot topics among enterprise IT and business decision makers today

is the costs and benefits of migrating enterprise resource planning systems 
(ERP) from costly, proprietary UNIX environments to Windows or other 
platforms. ERP integrates various company functions such as human resources,

inventories and financials, and links a company to its vendors and 
customers.

An independent, qualitative survey of organizations that recently completed 
a migration of their SAP or PeopleSoft ERP system from a UNIX environment to

the Microsoft Windows Server platform found a more than 20% reduction in the

number of servers required compared with UNIX. The survey, by META Group, 
found that in one large telecommunications company, consolidation on Windows

allowed a greater than 50 percent reduction in the number of required 
servers.

The survey also found a more than 50 percent improvement in areas such as 
reliability, accessibility and scalability; significant savings in cost 
management, IT staffing, performance monitoring and vendor management; and 
measurable savings in technical support and training. More than half of 
business function decision makers also saw significant improvements in areas

such as consistency, accuracy, reporting enhancement and performance.

"Windows is now a mainstream option for the vast majority of ERP projects," 
META Group concluded.

A great case study is the Raiffeisen Bank Group, the largest private bank 
group in Austria with about 2,600 branches. It wanted to reduce costs and 
provide better customer service by consolidating the number of servers in 
its branches by 50 percent. Raiffeisen investigated migrating from UNIX to 
either Linux or Windows. After evaluating the possible solutions, the 
company found that Windows Server 2003 would provide the most economical 
solution along with better performance, while giving bank employees an 
integrated view of customer information that they needed to improve customer

service. (Raiffeisen Bank Group Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15519)

One of our mid-market customers had a similar experience. Grand Expeditions 
is a consortium of luxury travel companies that significantly reduced its 
Web development and hosting costs, and improved site reliability and 
performance, by moving from a combination of Linux- and UNIX-based servers 
to Windows Server 2003 and the Windows Server System. The new system was up 
and running in just 60 days, and is saving Grand Expeditions $200,000 a 
year. (Grand Expeditions Case Study - 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp
x?CaseStudyID=15397)

IN CLOSING...

There is no question that customers are benefiting today from a healthy, 
competitive IT industry. Competition requires companies to really focus in 
on what customers want and need. At the same time, customers have a clearer 
opportunity than ever before to evaluate choices.

For example, BET.com, the Internet portal created by Viacom subsidiary BET 
Networks, did an in-depth comparison of Red Hat Linux and Windows Server 
System. They found that Windows offered 30% lower TCO, was more secure and 
reliable, and enabled quicker time to market. As BET.com's CTO, Navarrow 
Wright, said: "When I looked at all the costs - not just the straight price 
of software - a Windows Server System-based solution made better financial 
sense than sticking with our Sun and Oracle environment or switching to 
Linux. We decided to migrate the whole enterprise from various software 
vendors to standardize all of our software on Microsoft."

By implementing Windows Server 2003, Windows XP Professional, Office 
Professional Edition 2003, Exchange Server 2003, Content Management Server 
2003 and Visual Studio .NET 2003, BET.com conservatively estimated that its 
workforce will increase productivity by 25-30%, while saving significantly 
in licensing and redevelopment costs.

As organizations increasingly rely on IT to perform mission-critical 
functions, and with complexity a growing challenge, choosing the right 
computing platform for the long term can make the difference between profit 
and loss, and between future success and failure. And it's pretty clear that

the facts show that Windows provides a lower total cost of ownership than 
Linux; the number of security vulnerabilities is lower on Windows, and 
Windows responsiveness on security is better than Linux; and Microsoft 
provides uncapped IP indemnification of their products, while no such 
comprehensive offering is available for Linux or open source.

The vision and benefits of an integrated platform are what distinguish 
Microsoft's approach to software. The Windows platform today offers an 
unmatched level of value, applications availability, simplicity, security 
and productivity. For Microsoft, this is truly a cross-company effort that 
requires the server and client operating systems to seamlessly deliver great

usability and manageability features, applications that deliver compelling 
scenarios, and tools that enable developers and ISVs to easily and quickly 
build new applications on the platform.

It's important that customers have all the information they need when making

critical and expensive IT decisions. If the evidence at our 
www.microsoft.com/getthefacts Web site doesn't sufficiently convey the 
benefits and value of the Microsoft platform, we want to hear from you so we

can work even harder to get that information to you. If you would like to 
have a more detailed discussion about your company's IT needs, email Martin 
Taylor at martinta at microsoft.com.

Steve Ballmer

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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Oct 28 13:43:14 2004
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:43:14 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF7370@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <003701c4bd27$ec0f5ae0$f5c581d5@pedro>

Hello All,

thanks for your reply.
You maybe missunderstood my question.
I already work with barcodes for years.
They don't have that many secrets for me.

I asked for help on a database for Stock managment,
for examples of such a database.

Pedro Janssen




----- Original Message -----
From: "Erwin Craps - IT Helps" <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment


> The  in-between-keyboard barcodescanner only works with PS2 type of
> keyboards.
> Some brand are migrating to USB connector keyboards.
>
> The in-between-keyboard barcodescanner does not work when no PS2
> keyboard is connected.
>
> Erwin
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens Colby, John
> Verzonden: woensdag 27 oktober 2004 16:07
> Aan: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Onderwerp: RE: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
>
> >The barcode reader we purchased acted like any input device.  Whatever
> field the cursor is in, is where the data is placed.
>
> You might want to go with a serial port reader (or usb port these
> days?).
>
> The alternative as a "keyboard wedge" type (sits between the keyboard
> and PC, inserting the data right into the keyboard stream).  These cause
> problems.
>
> The reason is that with the serial port readers you have control over
> where and when you read the bar code.  I have used both and, users being
> users, when you use the "keyboard wedge", you ALWAYS end up with garbage
> in word documents, excel documents, the wrong form etc.  Basically the
> user forgets to go to the right place before scanning and they corrupt
> whatever data they the insertion pointer (cursor / focus) is currently
> on.
>
> The serial port type is more difficult to get set up since you have to
> use a serial port control (comes with vba), but once set up you can turn
> on / off the reader (or more correctly the serial port)
> programmatically, thus controlling when the user can scan data.
>
> John W. Colby
> The DIS Database Guy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:44 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
>
>
>
> A couple of years ago, we wanted to use barcodes for specimens used in
> evaluating inspectors.
> After much research on the code to generate the barcode, we purchased a
> barcode reader.
> After we purchased the barcode reader, we realized how simple it was.
> The barcode reader came with the code to generate the barcode and
> instructions on how to scan the items.
> In hindsight, we should have bought the barcode reader first, then if
> needed, do the research to generate the barcode.
> My recommendation is to decide which barcode reader you want to use
> first.
> The information that comes with the barcode reader might just have all
> the information you need.
> In Access the easiest barcode to use is called Code 39, which is easily
> downloaded as a font. As a font, it can be used for any alphanumeric
> character and can be printed on labels, forms, etc.
>
> The barcode reader we purchased acted like any input device.  Whatever
> field the cursor is in, is where the data is placed.
>
> HTH
> Jim H.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of pedro at plex.nl
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:38 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] barcode and in stock managment
>
>
> Hello group,
>
> who can point me in the right direction on the development of a database
> where i use barcode with: In Stock managment.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pedro Janssen
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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 28 15:02:35 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 13:02:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging +
	UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <19614813350.20041028121831@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041028200235.33860.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>

Jim, Gustav,
 
thnx for the replies.
However, while I was 'fondeling' around I was looking at the code, network stats, doing some prototyping I came up with the following.
Load the file (wich I first copied to the desktop) in an array;
then I opened 3 rsts
Then I loop-ed through the file until the UBOUND(array) was found
  did a addnew + update after each found 'tag'
exited the loop,
closed the rsts
and voila! Remember the 25 hours.....how about 3 seconds!!!
Then I skipped the copying part and left the file on the network, still 14 seconds. Maybe it can be done faster but I think a 50,000% performance improvement will do just fine :-)
 
The problem was that the 'programmer' that designed and build the app did the following:
While looping through the file he opened and closed a recordset every time he found a 'tag' So that could be about 5500 times! Over a slow novell network using a 800Mb Fe-Be app....
 
Well it works. Now all I have to do is create the transaction thingy Gustav said. Just read about it in the bible...aka ADHB2K by litwin, gilbert and getz...get it ;-) Sjee, it's getting a bit late.
 
Sander
 
Hi Sander:

I was working on a contract to roll-out an update inventory database, 
for a
number of stores, this summer. The system had each computer, with it's 
own
full database, which could be fully independent (in the event of a
catastrophic failure on the LAN, the POS system had to run). After the
database was rebuilt on the server, it was then transferred to each 
station
across the LAN. The late-night process could take 20 to 30 minutes per
station. Given that some sites had ten terminals the process would have 
been
very time-consuming.

We sped the process by zipping the master DB and then broadcasting the
result. It would now only take three minutes per station, as the 
database
and in your case, a flat-file, compress down very nicely.

HTH
Jim


Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:Hi Sander

First, reading a 0,25 MB file off the network should be fast, no need
to copy the file first. But that is easy to test ... just try with a
local copy.

Second, you can read the file directly with a query as you did for
exporting.
Then use this query as the source for three append queries, one for
each table. Further, this step you can wrap in a
BeginTrans/CommitTrans to give you the option of rolling back.

/gustav


> Hi group,

> I've got a A2K (that needs to migrate to XP) app that needs to import a flatfile.
> A 267kb file takes about 25-28 HOURS(!!) to proces. Yes, it's a slow network.
> I need to improve this.
> This is how it 'works' now:
> 1 - read the file on the network to determine the number of lines
> 2 - start a for x=0 to NumberOfLines loop
> 3 - check the first x characters in the line
> 4 - create a new record in a table (table depends on step 3, there are 5 different tables to store the records)
> 5 - execute an update
> 6 - goto the next record

> Here's how I want to do it:
> 1 - copy the file from the network to the desktop
> 2 - import the complete file in a staging table
> 3 - Use an UpdateBatch mechanisme to update the BE.

> Question:
> How can i implement this UpdateBatch? I mean I have to store the records for each table 
> and after the complete file is processed I want to update all tables.

> Question:
> I need to implement a transaction. If the processing failes somewhere I need to rollback the changes (if I use an updatebatch this is probably not necesseray but it's good programming I think)

> any tips/advice is greatly appreciated!!

> Regards,

> Sander

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Thu Oct 28 15:22:21 2004
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:22:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Access with a MySQL database
In-Reply-To: <200410280955.i9S9tsL27348@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20041028151929.049a6780@pop3.highstream.net>

Barb,

That is what I figured.  The only thing you need to
watch out for when creating recordsets in code is
in the db.openrecordset.  On the end of it, you
need to add dbseechanges.  If you will change
the queries to views as you can, you will also get
better performance.  But, essentially, you can
almost do nothing to the front-end and make the
change over to SQL Server.

Robert

At 04:55 AM 10/28/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:49:10 -0400
>From: "Barbara Ryan" <BarbaraRyan at cox.net>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Re: Access with a MySQL database
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <002101c4bc55$a5ac6fc0$0a00a8c0 at cx470148a>
>Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>That's good news (regarding Microsoft SQL) --- they currently are using
>Access 97, but are converting to XP in the near future, so looks like
>they'll have it.   I don't think that they will have more than 10 users.
>
>Barb
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Cc: <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:20 PM
>Subject: [AccessD] Re: Access with a MySQL database
>
>
> > If they have Office 2000 or higher, they have SQL Server in the MSDE.
> > It is good for up to 10 concurrent users.
> >
> > My SQL does not support stored procedures, views, or referential
> > integrity.  SQL Server, even the MSDE, does.
> >
> > Robert




From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Oct 28 16:39:04 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:39:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging +UpdateBatch?
	*SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <20041028200235.33860.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEIOCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Sanders:

That is great and the solution was very creative. A code sample would be in
order...

Excellent solution.
Jim

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Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging
+UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*


Jim, Gustav,

thnx for the replies.
However, while I was 'fondeling' around I was looking at the code, network
stats, doing some prototyping I came up with the following.
Load the file (wich I first copied to the desktop) in an array;
then I opened 3 rsts
Then I loop-ed through the file until the UBOUND(array) was found
  did a addnew + update after each found 'tag'
exited the loop,
closed the rsts
and voila! Remember the 25 hours.....how about 3 seconds!!!
Then I skipped the copying part and left the file on the network, still 14
seconds. Maybe it can be done faster but I think a 50,000% performance
improvement will do just fine :-)

The problem was that the 'programmer' that designed and build the app did
the following:
While looping through the file he opened and closed a recordset every time
he found a 'tag' So that could be about 5500 times! Over a slow novell
network using a 800Mb Fe-Be app....

Well it works. Now all I have to do is create the transaction thingy Gustav
said. Just read about it in the bible...aka ADHB2K by litwin, gilbert and
getz...get it ;-) Sjee, it's getting a bit late.

Sander

Hi Sander:

I was working on a contract to roll-out an update inventory database,
for a
number of stores, this summer. The system had each computer, with it's
own
full database, which could be fully independent (in the event of a
catastrophic failure on the LAN, the POS system had to run). After the
database was rebuilt on the server, it was then transferred to each
station
across the LAN. The late-night process could take 20 to 30 minutes per
station. Given that some sites had ten terminals the process would have
been
very time-consuming.

We sped the process by zipping the master DB and then broadcasting the
result. It would now only take three minutes per station, as the
database
and in your case, a flat-file, compress down very nicely.

HTH
Jim


Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:Hi Sander

First, reading a 0,25 MB file off the network should be fast, no need
to copy the file first. But that is easy to test ... just try with a
local copy.

Second, you can read the file directly with a query as you did for
exporting.
Then use this query as the source for three append queries, one for
each table. Further, this step you can wrap in a
BeginTrans/CommitTrans to give you the option of rolling back.

/gustav


> Hi group,

> I've got a A2K (that needs to migrate to XP) app that needs to import a
flatfile.
> A 267kb file takes about 25-28 HOURS(!!) to proces. Yes, it's a slow
network.
> I need to improve this.
> This is how it 'works' now:
> 1 - read the file on the network to determine the number of lines
> 2 - start a for x=0 to NumberOfLines loop
> 3 - check the first x characters in the line
> 4 - create a new record in a table (table depends on step 3, there are 5
different tables to store the records)
> 5 - execute an update
> 6 - goto the next record

> Here's how I want to do it:
> 1 - copy the file from the network to the desktop
> 2 - import the complete file in a staging table
> 3 - Use an UpdateBatch mechanisme to update the BE.

> Question:
> How can i implement this UpdateBatch? I mean I have to store the records
for each table
> and after the complete file is processed I want to update all tables.

> Question:
> I need to implement a transaction. If the processing failes somewhere I
need to rollback the changes (if I use an updatebatch this is probably not
necesseray but it's good programming I think)

> any tips/advice is greatly appreciated!!

> Regards,

> Sander

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 29 01:49:51 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:49:51 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging +
	UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <20041028200235.33860.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20041028200235.33860.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1711731299.20041029084951@cactus.dk>

Hi Sander

Nice!

However, if it adds 11 seconds to read a 250K file off the network
compared to read it from local disk, it is not a "slow Novell network"
just a slow network where something represents a bottleneck which
needs an upgrade.

/gustav


> Jim, Gustav,
 
> thnx for the replies.
> However, while I was 'fondeling' around I was looking at the code, network stats, doing some prototyping I came up with the following.
> Load the file (wich I first copied to the desktop) in an array;
> then I opened 3 rsts
> Then I loop-ed through the file until the UBOUND(array) was found
>   did a addnew + update after each found 'tag'
> exited the loop,
> closed the rsts
> and voila! Remember the 25 hours.....how about 3 seconds!!!
> Then I skipped the copying part and left the file on the network, still 14 seconds. Maybe it can be done faster but I think a 50,000% performance improvement will do just fine :-)
 
> The problem was that the 'programmer' that designed and build the app did the following:
> While looping through the file he opened and closed a recordset every time he found a 'tag' So that could be about 5500 times! Over a slow novell network using a 800Mb Fe-Be app....
 
> Well it works. Now all I have to do is create the transaction thingy Gustav said. Just read about it in the bible...aka ADHB2K by litwin, gilbert and getz...get it ;-) Sjee, it's getting a bit late.
 
> Sander



From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 29 02:21:07 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:21:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging
	+UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEIOCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <20041029072107.87715.qmail@web61101.mail.yahoo.com>

Here ya go  (BTW I did NOT invent this naming convention!!!!!!!! FS used to be an object as was 'a', astrLineContents used to be strLineContents, etc.)
 
If you need more info => ask!
 
   Dim FS As FileSystemObject
   Dim a As TextStream
   Dim strBuff As String
   Dim astrLineContents() As String

Set a = FS.OpenTextFile(strFileName)
strBuff = a.ReadAll
      a.Close
      astrLineContents = Split(strBuff, Chr(10))
      lngMessageNumber = Val(Mid(astrLineContents(2), 21, 9))
      strDateConversion = Mid(astrLineContents(3), 5, 8)
      IntArrayCounter = UBound(astrLineContents) + 1
      Set db = CurrentDb()
      Set recD1 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD1", dbOpenDynaset)
      Set recD2 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD2", dbOpenDynaset)
      Set recD3 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD3", dbOpenDynaset)
   
      For intJ = 0 To UBound(astrLineContents)
         strLineStart = Left(astrLineContents(intJ), 7)
         Select Case strLineStart
         Case "#MEDTD1"
            'Set recD1 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD1", dbOpenDynaset)
            recD1.AddNew
 
<logic removed eg: recD1!MeterNo = Mid(astrLineContents(intJ), 9, 18)>

            recD1.Update
            'recD1.Close
            DoEvents
         Case "#MEDTD2"
            'Set recD2 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD2", dbOpenDynaset)
            recD2.AddNew
            recD2.Update
            'recD2.Close
            DoEvents
         Case "#MEDTD3"
            'Set recD3 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD3", dbOpenDynaset)
            recD3.AddNew
            recD3.Update
            'recS1.Close
            DoEvents
         End Select
         
      Next intJ
      recD1.Close
      recD2.Close
      recD3.Close

"Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi Sanders:

That is great and the solution was very creative. A code sample would be in
order...

Excellent solution.
Jim

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Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging
+UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*


Jim, Gustav,

thnx for the replies.
However, while I was 'fondeling' around I was looking at the code, network
stats, doing some prototyping I came up with the following.
Load the file (wich I first copied to the desktop) in an array;
then I opened 3 rsts
Then I loop-ed through the file until the UBOUND(array) was found
did a addnew + update after each found 'tag'
exited the loop,
closed the rsts
and voila! Remember the 25 hours.....how about 3 seconds!!!
Then I skipped the copying part and left the file on the network, still 14
seconds. Maybe it can be done faster but I think a 50,000% performance
improvement will do just fine :-)

The problem was that the 'programmer' that designed and build the app did
the following:
While looping through the file he opened and closed a recordset every time
he found a 'tag' So that could be about 5500 times! Over a slow novell
network using a 800Mb Fe-Be app....

Well it works. Now all I have to do is create the transaction thingy Gustav
said. Just read about it in the bible...aka ADHB2K by litwin, gilbert and
getz...get it ;-) Sjee, it's getting a bit late.

Sander

Hi Sander:

I was working on a contract to roll-out an update inventory database,
for a
number of stores, this summer. The system had each computer, with it's
own
full database, which could be fully independent (in the event of a
catastrophic failure on the LAN, the POS system had to run). After the
database was rebuilt on the server, it was then transferred to each
station
across the LAN. The late-night process could take 20 to 30 minutes per
station. Given that some sites had ten terminals the process would have
been
very time-consuming.

We sped the process by zipping the master DB and then broadcasting the
result. It would now only take three minutes per station, as the
database
and in your case, a flat-file, compress down very nicely.

HTH
Jim


Gustav Brock wrote:Hi Sander

First, reading a 0,25 MB file off the network should be fast, no need
to copy the file first. But that is easy to test ... just try with a
local copy.

Second, you can read the file directly with a query as you did for
exporting.
Then use this query as the source for three append queries, one for
each table. Further, this step you can wrap in a
BeginTrans/CommitTrans to give you the option of rolling back.

/gustav


> Hi group,

> I've got a A2K (that needs to migrate to XP) app that needs to import a
flatfile.
> A 267kb file takes about 25-28 HOURS(!!) to proces. Yes, it's a slow
network.
> I need to improve this.
> This is how it 'works' now:
> 1 - read the file on the network to determine the number of lines
> 2 - start a for x=0 to NumberOfLines loop
> 3 - check the first x characters in the line
> 4 - create a new record in a table (table depends on step 3, there are 5
different tables to store the records)
> 5 - execute an update
> 6 - goto the next record

> Here's how I want to do it:
> 1 - copy the file from the network to the desktop
> 2 - import the complete file in a staging table
> 3 - Use an UpdateBatch mechanisme to update the BE.

> Question:
> How can i implement this UpdateBatch? I mean I have to store the records
for each table
> and after the complete file is processed I want to update all tables.

> Question:
> I need to implement a transaction. If the processing failes somewhere I
need to rollback the changes (if I use an updatebatch this is probably not
necesseray but it's good programming I think)

> any tips/advice is greatly appreciated!!

> Regards,

> Sander

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From accessd667 at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 29 02:23:02 2004
From: accessd667 at yahoo.com (S D)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:23:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging +
	UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <1711731299.20041029084951@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20041029072302.85990.qmail@web61106.mail.yahoo.com>

I didn't mean to say that Novell has slow networks but this one is!
"a bottleneck"?? We've got several crates full of bottlenecks :-)

Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
Hi Sander

Nice!

However, if it adds 11 seconds to read a 250K file off the network
compared to read it from local disk, it is not a "slow Novell network"
just a slow network where something represents a bottleneck which
needs an upgrade.

/gustav


> Jim, Gustav,

> thnx for the replies.
> However, while I was 'fondeling' around I was looking at the code, network stats, doing some prototyping I came up with the following.
> Load the file (wich I first copied to the desktop) in an array;
> then I opened 3 rsts
> Then I loop-ed through the file until the UBOUND(array) was found
> did a addnew + update after each found 'tag'
> exited the loop,
> closed the rsts
> and voila! Remember the 25 hours.....how about 3 seconds!!!
> Then I skipped the copying part and left the file on the network, still 14 seconds. Maybe it can be done faster but I think a 50,000% performance improvement will do just fine :-)

> The problem was that the 'programmer' that designed and build the app did the following:
> While looping through the file he opened and closed a recordset every time he found a 'tag' So that could be about 5500 times! Over a slow novell network using a 800Mb Fe-Be app....

> Well it works. Now all I have to do is create the transaction thingy Gustav said. Just read about it in the bible...aka ADHB2K by litwin, gilbert and getz...get it ;-) Sjee, it's getting a bit late.

> Sander

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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Oct 29 02:33:45 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:33:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893604C4D7@primary.orridge.co.uk>

To all,
 
I have the following code in a database:
 
    Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
    Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
    Dim strSaveAs As String
 
    Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
    Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is a
path provided by the user
 
    strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
 
    objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
 
    objWB.Close
    Set objWB = Nothing
    objExcel.Quit
    Set objExcel = Nothing
 
This should be so simple but I get the following error message on the
objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText line:
 
    Expected Function or Variable
 
Can anyone help on this......
 
Thanks in advance for any help.
 
PAUL HARTLAND
Database Designer/Programmer
paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk
ISHARP
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 29 03:42:14 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:42:14 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893604C4D7@primary.orridge.co.uk>
References: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893604C4D7@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1228474155.20041029104214@cactus.dk>

Hi Paul

Try with

    Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strLoc)

/gustav


> I have the following code in a database:
 
>     Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
>     Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
>     Dim strSaveAs As String
 
>     Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is a
> path provided by the user
 
>     strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
 
>     objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
 
>     objWB.Close
>     Set objWB = Nothing
>     objExcel.Quit
>     Set objExcel = Nothing
 
> This should be so simple but I get the following error message on the
> objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText line:
 
>     Expected Function or Variable



From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Oct 29 05:28:29 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:28:29 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C4689365500C3@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655228E@primary.orridge.co.uk>

Gustav,

Tried the line you sent and got the following error message now:

	Method 'Open' of object 'Workbooks' failed

Any ideas ?

Paul

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Sent: 29 October 2004 09:42
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel


Hi Paul

Try with

    Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strLoc)

/gustav


> I have the following code in a database:
 
>     Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
>     Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
>     Dim strSaveAs As String
 
>     Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is a
> path provided by the user
 
>     strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
 
>     objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
 
>     objWB.Close
>     Set objWB = Nothing
>     objExcel.Quit
>     Set objExcel = Nothing
 
> This should be so simple but I get the following error message on the 
> objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText line:
 
>     Expected Function or Variable

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 29 07:38:01 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:38:01 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
Message-ID: <17922621718.20041029143801@cactus.dk>

Hi all

A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
FTP command line utility with script files.

However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the
Windows FTP thing can not.

I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so
I wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can
understand the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?

/gustav



From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Oct 29 07:50:40 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:50:40 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655228E@primary.orridge.co.uk>
References: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655228E@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1823381100.20041029145040@cactus.dk>

Hi Paul

This works all the time for me.
Something else must be going on at your side.
Are you sure the filename is stated correctly?

Put in

  Debug.Print strLoc

and read.

/gustav


> Gustav,

> Tried the line you sent and got the following error message now:

>         Method 'Open' of object 'Workbooks' failed

> Any ideas ?

> Paul

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> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: 29 October 2004 09:42
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel


> Hi Paul

> Try with

>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strLoc)

> /gustav


>> I have the following code in a database:
 
>>     Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
>>     Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
>>     Dim strSaveAs As String
 
>>     Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
>>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is a
>> path provided by the user
 
>>     strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
 
>>     objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
 
>>     objWB.Close
>>     Set objWB = Nothing
>>     objExcel.Quit
>>     Set objExcel = Nothing
 
>> This should be so simple but I get the following error message on the 
>> objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText line:
 
>>     Expected Function or Variable



From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 29 08:01:29 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 06:01:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging	+UpdateBatch?
	*SOLVED*
In-Reply-To: <20041029072107.87715.qmail@web61101.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIMEJBCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Thnks Sander...Jim

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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging
+UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*


Here ya go  (BTW I did NOT invent this naming convention!!!!!!!! FS used to
be an object as was 'a', astrLineContents used to be strLineContents, etc.)

If you need more info => ask!

   Dim FS As FileSystemObject
   Dim a As TextStream
   Dim strBuff As String
   Dim astrLineContents() As String

Set a = FS.OpenTextFile(strFileName)
strBuff = a.ReadAll
      a.Close
      astrLineContents = Split(strBuff, Chr(10))
      lngMessageNumber = Val(Mid(astrLineContents(2), 21, 9))
      strDateConversion = Mid(astrLineContents(3), 5, 8)
      IntArrayCounter = UBound(astrLineContents) + 1
      Set db = CurrentDb()
      Set recD1 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD1", dbOpenDynaset)
      Set recD2 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD2", dbOpenDynaset)
      Set recD3 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD3", dbOpenDynaset)

      For intJ = 0 To UBound(astrLineContents)
         strLineStart = Left(astrLineContents(intJ), 7)
         Select Case strLineStart
         Case "#MEDTD1"
            'Set recD1 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD1", dbOpenDynaset)
            recD1.AddNew

<logic removed eg: recD1!MeterNo = Mid(astrLineContents(intJ), 9, 18)>

            recD1.Update
            'recD1.Close
            DoEvents
         Case "#MEDTD2"
            'Set recD2 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD2", dbOpenDynaset)
            recD2.AddNew
            recD2.Update
            'recD2.Close
            DoEvents
         Case "#MEDTD3"
            'Set recD3 = db.OpenRecordset("V2_210_MEDTD3", dbOpenDynaset)
            recD3.AddNew
            recD3.Update
            'recS1.Close
            DoEvents
         End Select

      Next intJ
      recD1.Close
      recD2.Close
      recD3.Close

"Jim Lawrence (AccessD)" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi Sanders:

That is great and the solution was very creative. A code sample would be in
order...

Excellent solution.
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of S D
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] pls advise: Performance problem => Staging
+UpdateBatch? *SOLVED*


Jim, Gustav,

thnx for the replies.
However, while I was 'fondeling' around I was looking at the code, network
stats, doing some prototyping I came up with the following.
Load the file (wich I first copied to the desktop) in an array;
then I opened 3 rsts
Then I loop-ed through the file until the UBOUND(array) was found
did a addnew + update after each found 'tag'
exited the loop,
closed the rsts
and voila! Remember the 25 hours.....how about 3 seconds!!!
Then I skipped the copying part and left the file on the network, still 14
seconds. Maybe it can be done faster but I think a 50,000% performance
improvement will do just fine :-)

The problem was that the 'programmer' that designed and build the app did
the following:
While looping through the file he opened and closed a recordset every time
he found a 'tag' So that could be about 5500 times! Over a slow novell
network using a 800Mb Fe-Be app....

Well it works. Now all I have to do is create the transaction thingy Gustav
said. Just read about it in the bible...aka ADHB2K by litwin, gilbert and
getz...get it ;-) Sjee, it's getting a bit late.

Sander

Hi Sander:

I was working on a contract to roll-out an update inventory database,
for a
number of stores, this summer. The system had each computer, with it's
own
full database, which could be fully independent (in the event of a
catastrophic failure on the LAN, the POS system had to run). After the
database was rebuilt on the server, it was then transferred to each
station
across the LAN. The late-night process could take 20 to 30 minutes per
station. Given that some sites had ten terminals the process would have
been
very time-consuming.

We sped the process by zipping the master DB and then broadcasting the
result. It would now only take three minutes per station, as the
database
and in your case, a flat-file, compress down very nicely.

HTH
Jim


Gustav Brock wrote:Hi Sander

First, reading a 0,25 MB file off the network should be fast, no need
to copy the file first. But that is easy to test ... just try with a
local copy.

Second, you can read the file directly with a query as you did for
exporting.
Then use this query as the source for three append queries, one for
each table. Further, this step you can wrap in a
BeginTrans/CommitTrans to give you the option of rolling back.

/gustav


> Hi group,

> I've got a A2K (that needs to migrate to XP) app that needs to import a
flatfile.
> A 267kb file takes about 25-28 HOURS(!!) to proces. Yes, it's a slow
network.
> I need to improve this.
> This is how it 'works' now:
> 1 - read the file on the network to determine the number of lines
> 2 - start a for x=0 to NumberOfLines loop
> 3 - check the first x characters in the line
> 4 - create a new record in a table (table depends on step 3, there are 5
different tables to store the records)
> 5 - execute an update
> 6 - goto the next record

> Here's how I want to do it:
> 1 - copy the file from the network to the desktop
> 2 - import the complete file in a staging table
> 3 - Use an UpdateBatch mechanisme to update the BE.

> Question:
> How can i implement this UpdateBatch? I mean I have to store the records
for each table
> and after the complete file is processed I want to update all tables.

> Question:
> I need to implement a transaction. If the processing failes somewhere I
need to rollback the changes (if I use an updatebatch this is probably not
necesseray but it's good programming I think)

> any tips/advice is greatly appreciated!!

> Regards,

> Sander

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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Oct 29 08:15:11 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:15:11 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936550110@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936552296@primary.orridge.co.uk>

Yeah the path is returned as follows

C:\PNProject\Critpath_Fin.csv

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 29 October 2004 13:51
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel


Hi Paul

This works all the time for me.
Something else must be going on at your side.
Are you sure the filename is stated correctly?

Put in

  Debug.Print strLoc

and read.

/gustav


> Gustav,

> Tried the line you sent and got the following error message now:

>         Method 'Open' of object 'Workbooks' failed

> Any ideas ?

> Paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> Brock
> Sent: 29 October 2004 09:42
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel


> Hi Paul

> Try with

>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.Open(FileName:=strLoc)

> /gustav


>> I have the following code in a database:
 
>>     Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
>>     Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
>>     Dim strSaveAs As String
 
>>     Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
>>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is
a
>> path provided by the user
 
>>     strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
 
>>     objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
 
>>     objWB.Close
>>     Set objWB = Nothing
>>     objExcel.Quit
>>     Set objExcel = Nothing
 
>> This should be so simple but I get the following error message on the
>> objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText line:
 
>>     Expected Function or Variable

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Oct 29 08:31:55 2004
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:31:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936552296@primary.orridge.co.uk>
References: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936550110@primary.orridge.co.uk>
	<668C5C868606C641857281147C468936552296@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <e04a6c92041029063175e0bfd7@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:15:11 +0100, Paul Hartland (ISHARP)
<paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk> wrote:
> Yeah the path is returned as follows
> 
> C:\PNProject\Critpath_Fin.csv

Have you set a reference to the Excel Object?
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Oct 29 08:49:58 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:49:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655013F@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655229F@primary.orridge.co.uk>

Yes see original code sent below:

>> I have the following code in a database:
 
>>     Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
>>     Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
>>     Dim strSaveAs As String
 
>>     Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
>>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is
a
>> path provided by the user
 
>>     strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
 
>>     objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
 
>>     objWB.Close
>>     Set objWB = Nothing
>>     objExcel.Quit
>>     Set objExcel = Nothing

Paul

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Sent: 29 October 2004 14:32
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel


On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:15:11 +0100, Paul Hartland (ISHARP)
<paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk> wrote:
> Yeah the path is returned as follows
> 
> C:\PNProject\Critpath_Fin.csv

Have you set a reference to the Excel Object?
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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Fri Oct 29 08:47:43 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:47:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <17922621718.20041029143801@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000601c4bdbd$ddea6090$0200a8c0@COA3>

What does "passive mode" mean in this context?


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode


Hi all

A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
FTP command line utility with script files.

However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the Windows
FTP thing can not.

I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so I
wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can understand
the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?

/gustav

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Oct 29 09:17:14 2004
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:17:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655229F@primary.orridge.co.uk>
References: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655013F@primary.orridge.co.uk>
	<668C5C868606C641857281147C46893655229F@primary.orridge.co.uk>
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:49:58 +0100, Paul Hartland (ISHARP)
<paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes see original code sent below:

> >> I have the following code in a database:
> 
> >>     Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
> >>     Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
> >>     Dim strSaveAs As String
> 
> >>     Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
> >>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is
> a
> >> path provided by the user
> 
> >>     strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
> 
> >>     objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
> 
> >>     objWB.Close
> >>     Set objWB = Nothing
> >>     objExcel.Quit
> >>     Set objExcel = Nothing

I meant from the VBE Tools| References and then select Microsoft Excel
x.0 Object Library

not dimming a variable.

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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Oct 29 09:33:06 2004
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:33:06 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936550162@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <668C5C868606C641857281147C4689365522A9@primary.orridge.co.uk>

Bryan,

Yes it's pointing to the Excel 8.0 object library, using Access 97.  The CSV
file by the way has Unix end of line characters if that makes a
difference...

Paul

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Sent: 29 October 2004 15:17
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel


On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:49:58 +0100, Paul Hartland (ISHARP)
<paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes see original code sent below:

> >> I have the following code in a database:
> 
> >>     Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
> >>     Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
> >>     Dim strSaveAs As String
> 
> >>     Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
> >>     Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc
is
> a
> >> path provided by the user
> 
> >>     strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
> 
> >>     objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
> 
> >>     objWB.Close
> >>     Set objWB = Nothing
> >>     objExcel.Quit
> >>     Set objExcel = Nothing

I meant from the VBE Tools| References and then select Microsoft Excel x.0
Object Library

not dimming a variable.

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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Fri Oct 29 09:46:45 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:46:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook task.
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F63@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen several
times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing Outlook's
e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task the
Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this code so
that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail security features.
I have been trying to the past two days and have not had any luck. 

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
    
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
        
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
    
    
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
                
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" & strNote
& ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
      

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
        
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
        
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
   
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Oct 29 09:46:53 2004
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:46:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C4689365522A9@primary.orridge.co.uk>
References: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936550162@primary.orridge.co.uk>
	<668C5C868606C641857281147C4689365522A9@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <e04a6c9204102907462e39e079@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:33:06 +0100, Paul Hartland (ISHARP)
<paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk> wrote:
> Bryan,
> 
> Yes it's pointing to the Excel 8.0 object library, using Access 97.  The CSV
> file by the way has Unix end of line characters if that makes a
> difference...

Nope it shouldn't.

I just figured out what the problem may be:

The line:
Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is a
path provided by the user

should be:
objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText strLoc


OpenText requires the Workbooks object.

You were trying to set a workbook (no s) object as the result of the OpenText.

If you need a reference to the workbook object that gets opened, you
can use this line:
Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.Open(strLoc) 

Hope this make sense.

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Fri Oct 29 09:47:41 2004
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:47:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c9204102907462e39e079@mail.gmail.com>
References: <668C5C868606C641857281147C468936550162@primary.orridge.co.uk>
	<668C5C868606C641857281147C4689365522A9@primary.orridge.co.uk>
	<e04a6c9204102907462e39e079@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c9204102907472db4755d@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:46:53 -0400, Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:33:06 +0100, Paul Hartland (ISHARP)
> <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk> wrote:
> > Bryan,
> >
> > Yes it's pointing to the Excel 8.0 object library, using Access 97.  The CSV
> > file by the way has Unix end of line characters if that makes a
> > difference...
> 
> Nope it shouldn't.
> 
> I just figured out what the problem may be:
> 
> The line:
> Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is a
> path provided by the user
> 
> should be:
> objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText strLoc
> 
> OpenText requires the Workbooks object.
> 
> You were trying to set a workbook (no s) object as the result of the OpenText.
> 
> If you need a reference to the workbook object that gets opened, you
> can use this line:
> Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.Open(strLoc)
> 
> Hope this make sense.

Forgot to add, Unix LF don't make a difference.

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From joeget at vgernet.net  Fri Oct 29 09:54:05 2004
From: joeget at vgernet.net (John Eget)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:54:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] access security
Message-ID: <00ef01c4bdc7$26daedc0$45c2f63f@Desktop>

I am trying to fix a security issue at my site. My managers like to edit or delete records that they think are inappropriate in a product audit database and usually fail to inform anyone of this. I have locked them out of the backend access by the front end with the directory properties of windows for the back end. But this also does not allow them to enter records either. But I would also like to take one step further and not allow individuals that are entering records into the database from either deleting or editing other individual records. Can anyone share with me how they may have done this in the past?
Thanks in advance
John 

From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct 29 10:19:44 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:19:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
	task.
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B27@infoserver01.infostat.local>

It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use.
You have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit
of help that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the
Outlook.Application object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and
MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen
several times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing
Outlook's e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task
the Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this
code so that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail
security features. I have been trying to the past two days and have not
had any luck. 

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
    
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
        
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
    
    
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
                
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" &
strNote & ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
      

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
        
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
        
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
   
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Oct 29 10:32:39 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:32:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
Message-ID: <00df01c4bdcc$86732e50$6701a8c0@HAL9002>

Dear List:

Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are working without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how this could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.  

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com



From tdd-inc at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 29 10:32:50 2004
From: tdd-inc at shaw.ca (Technical Designs)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:32:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel
In-Reply-To: <668C5C868606C641857281147C46893604C4D7@primary.orridge.co.uk>
Message-ID: <005501c4bdcc$8fda6850$7801a8c0@cadcam>

Paul,
In your line...
    strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"

shouldn't the left ( be equal to the right )

Phil


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Hartland (ISHARP) [mailto:paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:34 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Open CSV file using Excel object and save as Excel

To all,
 
I have the following code in a database:
 
    Dim objExcel As Excel.Application
    Dim objWB As Excel.Workbook
    Dim strSaveAs As String
 
    Set objExcel = New Excel.Application
    Set objWB = objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText(strLoc)    ' NOTE: strLoc is a
path provided by the user
 
    strSaveAs = Left(strLoc,((Len(Trim(strLoc))-4)) & ".xls"
 
    objWB.SaveAs strSaveAs
 
    objWB.Close
    Set objWB = Nothing
    objExcel.Quit
    Set objExcel = Nothing
 
This should be so simple but I get the following error message on the
objExcel.Workbooks.OpenText line:
 
    Expected Function or Variable
 
Can anyone help on this......
 
Thanks in advance for any help.
 
PAUL HARTLAND
Database Designer/Programmer
paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk
ISHARP
DDI - 01922 472031
Mobile - 07730 523179

 

ISHARP (Information Services for Hospitality, Audit, Retail and Pharmacy)
provide IT resources for the Christie Group Stock & Inventory Services
companies.

 





From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Fri Oct 29 10:36:16 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:36:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
	task.
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F63@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <000201c4bdcd$07f4de10$060aa845@hargrove.internal>

Try the code below...

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com

************************************

Public Function SendTask()
    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
    Dim objSave as Object
    
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
        
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
    
    
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    ' Create the Redemption object
    Set objSafe = CreateObject("Redemption.SafeTaskItem")
    objSafe.Item = objOutlookTsk

    With objSafe
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            .Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
                
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" & strNote
& ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
      

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
        
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
        
    End With
   Set objSafe = nothing
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
   
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Fri Oct 29 10:37:56 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:37:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlooktask.
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B27@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000301c4bdcd$43625680$060aa845@hargrove.internal>

Redemption can use the Outlook.Application just as he has it.  I've got
fully functional code all over the place that does.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use. You
have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit of help
that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the Outlook.Application
object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen several
times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing Outlook's
e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task the
Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this code so
that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail security features.
I have been trying to the past two days and have not had any luck. 

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
    
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
        
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
    
    
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
                
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" & strNote
& ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
      

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
        
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
        
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
   
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Oct 29 10:32:08 2004
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:32:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] access security
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F0471AB31@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

They can't enter records because you've taken away their write permissions
to the back-end folder - so it looks read-only to them.

The best solution is to use the built in Access security. While it's not
immune to cracking, it will keep busy people who don't have time for hacking
at bay.

Alternatively, just ensure that the users NEVER get to see the database
window and so get direct access to tables and queries where they can delete
things. In your forms you can control  what actions take place quite easily.

Lambert

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> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Eget
> Sent:	Friday, October 29, 2004 10:54 AM
> To:	AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	[AccessD] access security
> 
> I am trying to fix a security issue at my site. My managers like to edit
> or delete records that they think are inappropriate in a product audit
> database and usually fail to inform anyone of this. I have locked them out
> of the backend access by the front end with the directory properties of
> windows for the back end. But this also does not allow them to enter
> records either. But I would also like to take one step further and not
> allow individuals that are entering records into the database from either
> deleting or editing other individual records. Can anyone share with me how
> they may have done this in the past?
> Thanks in advance
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct 29 11:16:47 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:16:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlooktask.
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B29@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I'll take your word for it.  We don't assume that Outlook is installed
or require it for our installations, so we use generic commands.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


Redemption can use the Outlook.Application just as he has it.  I've got
fully functional code all over the place that does.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use.
You have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit
of help that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the
Outlook.Application object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and
MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen
several times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing
Outlook's e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task
the Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this
code so that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail
security features. I have been trying to the past two days and have not
had any luck. 

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
    
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
        
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
    
    
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
                
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" &
strNote & ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
      

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
        
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
        
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
   
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Fri Oct 29 11:44:22 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:44:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
	task.
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F67@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks for the help so far!

To Charlotte: I am using the unlicensed version until I can get my code to
work. I am only using it right now for testing. If I can get it to do what I
need it to do, I will purchase it right away!

To M&D: Thanks for the code. I tried it out and it works as planned. The
only issue that I have is that the recipient cannot open the item. This is
the problem that I had run into before I posted to the AccessD list. When
the recipient tries to open the task request they get an error message of
"Can't open this item. The property does not exist. The field you want to
modify is not valid for this type of item."

Any idea what is going on?

TIA again!
JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.

I'll take your word for it.  We don't assume that Outlook is installed
or require it for our installations, so we use generic commands.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


Redemption can use the Outlook.Application just as he has it.  I've got
fully functional code all over the place that does.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use.
You have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit
of help that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the
Outlook.Application object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and
MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen
several times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing
Outlook's e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task
the Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this
code so that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail
security features. I have been trying to the past two days and have not
had any luck.

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
   
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
   
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
       
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
   
   
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
               
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" &
strNote & ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
     

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
       
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
       
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
  
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Fri Oct 29 11:45:00 2004
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:45:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
	task.
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F68@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

I am using the code the M&D Manning provided for me.

JR

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From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
task.

It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use.
You have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit
of help that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the
Outlook.Application object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and
MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen
several times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing
Outlook's e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task
the Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this
code so that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail
security features. I have been trying to the past two days and have not
had any luck.

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
   
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
   
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
       
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
   
   
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
               
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" &
strNote & ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
     

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
       
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
       
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
  
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Fri Oct 29 11:48:57 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:48:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlooktask.
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86312B29@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <000601c4bdd7$2f08f130$060aa845@hargrove.internal>

Totally understood.  We are an all Microsoft shop so it is a little easier
for us to make that assumption.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


I'll take your word for it.  We don't assume that Outlook is installed or
require it for our installations, so we use generic commands.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


Redemption can use the Outlook.Application just as he has it.  I've got
fully functional code all over the place that does.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use. You
have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit of help
that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the Outlook.Application
object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen several
times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing Outlook's
e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task the
Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this code so
that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail security features.
I have been trying to the past two days and have not had any luck. 

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
    
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
        
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
    
    
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
                
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" & strNote
& ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
      

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
        
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
        
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
   
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From pharold at proftesting.com  Fri Oct 29 11:42:40 2004
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:42:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
In-Reply-To: <00df01c4bdcc$86732e50$6701a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <000301c4bdd6$4fad8780$082da8c0@D58BT131>

Stuck Key?

Perry Harold

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:33 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


Dear List:

Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are working
without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how this
could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.  

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 29 11:58:55 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:58:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
References: <00df01c4bdcc$86732e50$6701a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <418276CF.1070701@shaw.ca>

Could be orange juice in the keyboard, or maybe one of disabled 
accessibilty options has been turned.
in Access press the shift button rapidly for 5 seconds. This will allow 
you to set "sticky" keys. If it has
been turned on previously check settings tab when window pops ups up in 
response to pressing shift rapidly.

Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

>Dear List:
>
>Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are working without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how this could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.  
>
>MTIA
>
>Rocky Smolin
>Beach Access Software
>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Oct 29 12:01:50 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:01:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371DA@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Scroll lock on?

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From: Perry Harold [mailto:pharold at proftesting.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


Stuck Key?

Perry Harold

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Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:33 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


Dear List:

Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are working
without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how this
could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.  

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Oct 29 12:07:20 2004
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:07:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlooktask.
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Out clients are all over the world and many rig-site users aren't
particularly computer literate, so they may have Outlook Express,
Outlook, or something else entirely, and they may not even know which!
We can't take chances.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


Totally understood.  We are an all Microsoft shop so it is a little
easier for us to make that assumption.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


I'll take your word for it.  We don't assume that Outlook is installed
or require it for our installations, so we use generic commands.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


Redemption can use the Outlook.Application just as he has it.  I've got
fully functional code all over the place that does.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use.
You have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit
of help that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the
Outlook.Application object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and
MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen
several times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing
Outlook's e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task
the Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this
code so that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail
security features. I have been trying to the past two days and have not
had any luck. 

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
    
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
    
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
        
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
    
    
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
                
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" &
strNote & ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
      

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
        
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
        
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
   
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

End Function



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Oct 29 12:20:11 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:20:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
References: <000301c4bdd6$4fad8780$082da8c0@D58BT131>
Message-ID: <01cb01c4bddb$8c327120$6701a8c0@HAL9002>

No.  It's the same on three different boxes.

Now, there's a possibility I'm getting senile or losing my beans here.  I 
use the underscore on all main menu command buttons so that the user doesn't 
have to use the mouse.

Now I've ALWAYS thought that to use those underscores you had to use the Alt 
key simultaneously with the underscored character.  So maybe I've never 
tried it without the Alt key.

Now someone just told me that it always worked that way - no alt key 
required.

So how do are those underscore shortcuts SUPPOSED to work?

Rocky

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From: "Perry Harold" <pharold at proftesting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


> Stuck Key?
>
> Perry Harold
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:33 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are 
> working
> without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how this
> could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Oct 29 12:29:55 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:29:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
References: <00df01c4bdcc$86732e50$6701a8c0@HAL9002> <418276CF.1070701@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <01d501c4bddc$e7fd79e0$6701a8c0@HAL9002>

Wow.  A new feature. Never saw that before.

 But it didn't seem to have any effect on the menus.  For example, my exit 
button has the word Exit with the x underscored.  So when I press X the 
onClick event is triggered and the app closes.  I always thought I needed to 
press Alt-X to get that to work.  No?

TIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


> Could be orange juice in the keyboard, or maybe one of disabled 
> accessibilty options has been turned.
> in Access press the shift button rapidly for 5 seconds. This will allow 
> you to set "sticky" keys. If it has
> been turned on previously check settings tab when window pops ups up in 
> response to pressing shift rapidly.
>
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
>>Dear List:
>>
>>Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are 
>>working without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know 
>>how this could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.
>>MTIA
>>
>>Rocky Smolin
>>Beach Access Software
>>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>
>>
>
> -- 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Oct 29 12:30:14 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:30:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371DA@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <01e001c4bddc$f3be5b50$6701a8c0@HAL9002>

No.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:01 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


> Scroll lock on?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perry Harold [mailto:pharold at proftesting.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:43 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
>
>
> Stuck Key?
>
> Perry Harold
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:33 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are 
> working
> without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how this
> could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Oct 29 12:35:20 2004
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:35:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C2FF@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

If the form that you are using does not have any data fields on it, then
you can use the straight out press of the letter.  If there is data
fields on the form, the alt-key combo does it.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
- Beach Access Software
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


No.  It's the same on three different boxes.

Now, there's a possibility I'm getting senile or losing my beans here.
I 
use the underscore on all main menu command buttons so that the user
doesn't 
have to use the mouse.

Now I've ALWAYS thought that to use those underscores you had to use the
Alt 
key simultaneously with the underscored character.  So maybe I've never 
tried it without the Alt key.

Now someone just told me that it always worked that way - no alt key 
required.

So how do are those underscore shortcuts SUPPOSED to work?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Perry Harold" <pharold at proftesting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


> Stuck Key?
>
> Perry Harold
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:33 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are 
> working
> without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how
this
> could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Fri Oct 29 12:44:58 2004
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:44:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlooktask.
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F67@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c4bddf$0254b900$060aa845@hargrove.internal>

I would contact Dmitri for help.  It might be a problem with the object
model that he hasn't run across or a bug within Redemption itself.

Mike and Doris Manning
mikedorism at adelphia.net


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:44 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


Thanks for the help so far!

To Charlotte: I am using the unlicensed version until I can get my code to
work. I am only using it right now for testing. If I can get it to do what I
need it to do, I will purchase it right away!

To M&D: Thanks for the code. I tried it out and it works as planned. The
only issue that I have is that the recipient cannot open the item. This is
the problem that I had run into before I posted to the AccessD list. When
the recipient tries to open the task request they get an error message of
"Can't open this item. The property does not exist. The field you want to
modify is not valid for this type of item."

Any idea what is going on?

TIA again!
JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 12:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.

I'll take your word for it.  We don't assume that Outlook is installed or
require it for our installations, so we use generic commands.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Doris Manning [mailto:mikedorism at adelphia.net]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


Redemption can use the Outlook.Application just as he has it.  I've got
fully functional code all over the place that does.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an
Outlooktask.


It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use. You
have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit of help
that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the Outlook.Application
object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook task.


Hi All,

I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen several
times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing Outlook's
e-mail security features.

Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task the
Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this code so
that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail security features.
I have been trying to the past two days and have not had any luck.

Can someone please help me with this?

TIA!
JR

Public Function SendTask()
   
    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
   
    Dim strRecipList() As String
    Dim strNum As String
    Dim DDueDate As Date
    Dim strNote As String
    Dim strBody As String
    Dim i As Integer
       
    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
   
   
    ' Create the Outlook session.
    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")

    ' Create the message.
    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)

    With objOutlookTsk
        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
        Next
               
        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" & strNote
& ")"
        .Body = strBody
        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
        .ReminderSet = True
        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
        .DueDate = DDueDate
     

        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
                objOutlookTsk.Display
            End If
        Next
       
        .Save
        .Assign
        .Send
       
    End With
   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
   Set objOutlook = Nothing
  
   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"

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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Fri Oct 29 13:06:02 2004
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:06:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] unbound report?
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51EE73935@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I think I am going to need an unbound report for this part of my
application.  I have several crosstab queries.  Each is based on two joined
tables and gives a summary of the number of clients per month who used
various available services.  i.e. how many clients per month ate breakfast,
lunch, and dinner.  How many stayed in the motel facility.  How many stayed
in the cabins.  How many used the RV/Tent camping facility.  Etc.  My
problem is that when I go to create a report there might be no clients using
one or more of these facilities during any given month.  How do I create a
report that will show the usage as 0 during a month where the query that I
want to fill the report has no February, March, or April fields because no
guests camped during those months?

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Oct 29 13:42:36 2004
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:42:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] unbound report?
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723371DC@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Check out p 157 of Getz's ADH. He suggests using the IN clause. EX:
PIVOT column-headings-field [IN(value1[,value2[,...etc]])]
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:06 PM
To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
Subject: [AccessD] unbound report?


I think I am going to need an unbound report for this part of my
application.  I have several crosstab queries.  Each is based on two joined
tables and gives a summary of the number of clients per month who used
various available services.  i.e. how many clients per month ate breakfast,
lunch, and dinner.  How many stayed in the motel facility.  How many stayed
in the cabins.  How many used the RV/Tent camping facility.  Etc.  My
problem is that when I go to create a report there might be no clients using
one or more of these facilities during any given month.  How do I create a
report that will show the usage as 0 during a month where the query that I
want to fill the report has no February, March, or April fields because no
guests camped during those months?

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 

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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Fri Oct 29 13:42:51 2004
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:42:51 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] unbound report?
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F298FD8@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

In the crosstab query Properties, look at Column Headings.  The A2K help says 'use this property to specify the order or to limit the number of columns displayed', but you can use it to force an otherwise empty column to display as well.    

Stephen Bond


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Klos, Susan [mailto:Susan.Klos at fldoe.org]
> Sent: Saturday, 30 October 2004 7:06 a.m.
> To: 'AccessD at databaseadvisors.com'
> Subject: [AccessD] unbound report?
> 
> 
> I think I am going to need an unbound report for this part of my
> application.  I have several crosstab queries.  Each is based 
> on two joined
> tables and gives a summary of the number of clients per month who used
> various available services.  i.e. how many clients per month 
> ate breakfast,
> lunch, and dinner.  How many stayed in the motel facility.  
> How many stayed
> in the cabins.  How many used the RV/Tent camping facility.  Etc.  My
> problem is that when I go to create a report there might be 
> no clients using
> one or more of these facilities during any given month.  How 
> do I create a
> report that will show the usage as 0 during a month where the 
> query that I
> want to fill the report has no February, March, or April 
> fields because no
> guests camped during those months?
> 
>  
> 
> Susan Klos
> 
> Senior Database Analyst
> 
> Evaluation and Reporting
> 
> Florida Department of Education
> 
> 850-245-0708 
> 
> sc 205-0708
> 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Oct 29 13:59:42 2004
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:59:42 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43A2C2FF@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <02b201c4bde9$73201ad0$6701a8c0@HAL9002>

WHO KNEW???!!!!

I feel like such a newbie sometimes.

Thanks for the heads up, Karen.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicholson, Karen" <cyx5 at cdc.gov>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:35 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key


> If the form that you are using does not have any data fields on it, then
> you can use the straight out press of the letter.  If there is data
> fields on the form, the alt-key combo does it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:20 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
>
>
> No.  It's the same on three different boxes.
>
> Now, there's a possibility I'm getting senile or losing my beans here.
> I
> use the underscore on all main menu command buttons so that the user
> doesn't
> have to use the mouse.
>
> Now I've ALWAYS thought that to use those underscores you had to use the
> Alt
> key simultaneously with the underscored character.  So maybe I've never
> tried it without the Alt key.
>
> Now someone just told me that it always worked that way - no alt key
> required.
>
> So how do are those underscore shortcuts SUPPOSED to work?
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Perry Harold" <pharold at proftesting.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:42 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
>
>
>> Stuck Key?
>>
>> Perry Harold
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> Smolin -
>> Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:33 AM
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
>>
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined characters) are
>> working
>> without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  Does anyone know how
> this
>> could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.
>>
>> MTIA
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Oct 29 17:38:38 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:38:38 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <000601c4bdbd$ddea6090$0200a8c0@COA3>
References: <17922621718.20041029143801@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4183530E.22988.39D653E@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 29 Oct 2004 at 9:47, Steve Conklin (Developer at Ultr wrote:

> What does "passive mode" mean in this context?
> 

See RFC 959:

<quote>

   The data transfer process, in its normal "active" state,
         establishes the data connection with the "listening" data port.
         It sets up parameters for transfer and storage, and transfers
         data on command from its PI.  The DTP can be placed in a
         "passive" state to listen for, rather than initiate a
         connection on the data port.

----8<-----

PASSIVE (PASV)
	      This command requests the server-DTP to "listen" on a data
            port (which is not its default data port) and to wait for a
            connection rather than initiate one upon receipt of a
            transfer command.  The response to this command includes the
            host and port address this server is listening on.
</quote>

-- 
Stuart




From dw-murphy at cox.net  Fri Oct 29 18:07:29 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:07:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Message on deleting records
In-Reply-To: <02b201c4bde9$73201ad0$6701a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <000001c4be0c$138d9f70$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Hi Folks,

I have a data entry form with a subform on it.  On new record entry a cancel
button is visible so if the user decides to not complete the entry of the
new record they can cancel out of it.  Since several fields on the form are
auto filled and the user may have, entered data, moved onto the subform or
whatever, when they hit cancel I run a delete query for the record on the
subform and one for the record on the main form using their primary keys.
They queries are of the form; "Delete * From tablewhatever where fldID =
recordIDFromForm"  All this works great except that when the form closes and
the queries have run I get an Access message saying "You can not add or
change a record because a related record is required in tblLot".  The delete
queries run and delete their respective records with no problem, but I don't
know why I am getting this message.  The queries run in the order of child
record, parent record.

Any thoughts on how to get rid of this message would be appreciated.  I have
turned warnings off before running the delete queries.

Doug




From dw-murphy at cox.net  Fri Oct 29 18:40:00 2004
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:40:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Message on deleting records
In-Reply-To: <000001c4be0c$138d9f70$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>
Message-ID: <000001c4be10$a370f660$8500a8c0@murphyf3vdfepi>

Cancel the request!  This apparently is one of those which closes first
things, the form or subform.  The delete code is run in the main form and
the subform is apparently still open when it is run.  I can trap the error
in the subform and prevent the message.

Sorry for the wasted bandwidth.

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Message on deleting records


Hi Folks,

I have a data entry form with a subform on it.  On new record entry a cancel
button is visible so if the user decides to not complete the entry of the
new record they can cancel out of it.  Since several fields on the form are
auto filled and the user may have, entered data, moved onto the subform or
whatever, when they hit cancel I run a delete query for the record on the
subform and one for the record on the main form using their primary keys.
They queries are of the form; "Delete * From tablewhatever where fldID =
recordIDFromForm"  All this works great except that when the form closes and
the queries have run I get an Access message saying "You can not add or
change a record because a related record is required in tblLot".  The delete
queries run and delete their respective records with no problem, but I don't
know why I am getting this message.  The queries run in the order of child
record, parent record.

Any thoughts on how to get rid of this message would be appreciated.  I have
turned warnings off before running the delete queries.

Doug


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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Fri Oct 29 19:28:50 2004
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:28:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <4183530E.22988.39D653E@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <003701c4be17$6e27bdc0$0200a8c0@COA3>

Thanks, Stuart.
I have only used FTP command line to login/upload/download, so I don't
know all of its intricacies.  But according to what I read further on
RFC 959, wouldn't an "Active" session need to be initiated first, then,
to issue the PASV command? ... I ask this in pursuit of the answer to
the  original question (which wasn't mine, but an interesting topic!)

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 6:39 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode


On 29 Oct 2004 at 9:47, Steve Conklin (Developer at Ultr wrote:

> What does "passive mode" mean in this context?
> 

See RFC 959:

<quote>

   The data transfer process, in its normal "active" state,
         establishes the data connection with the "listening" data port.
         It sets up parameters for transfer and storage, and transfers
         data on command from its PI.  The DTP can be placed in a
         "passive" state to listen for, rather than initiate a
         connection on the data port.

----8<-----

PASSIVE (PASV)
	      This command requests the server-DTP to "listen" on a data
            port (which is not its default data port) and to wait for a
            connection rather than initiate one upon receipt of a
            transfer command.  The response to this command includes the
            host and port address this server is listening on. </quote>

-- 
Stuart


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Oct 29 20:31:44 2004
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:31:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <003701c4be17$6e27bdc0$0200a8c0@COA3>
References: <4183530E.22988.39D653E@lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <41837BA0.13814.43BDF5F@lexacorp.com.pg>

On 29 Oct 2004 at 20:28, Steve Conklin (Developer at Ultr wrote:

> Thanks, Stuart.
> I have only used FTP command line to login/upload/download, so I don't
> know all of its intricacies.  But according to what I read further on
> RFC 959, wouldn't an "Active" session need to be initiated first, then,
> to issue the PASV command? ... I ask this in pursuit of the answer to
> the  original question (which wasn't mine, but an interesting topic!)
> 

There are two connections involved in a FTP session, control and data.

A control connection is established first on the standard control port and 
then a data connection is established.   The active/passive differentiation 
is in the way the port for the data connection is selected.

In an active session, the client connecting to the server specifies what 
port is to be used for the data connection (either the default or a user 
specified port using the PORT command).

Using PASV to establish the data connection tells the FTP Server to pick an 
available port and tell you to listen on it.  This is necessary when you 
are talking to a busy FTP server with lots of simulatneous connections - 
only the server knows what ports it has available at the time.

-- 
Stuart




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Oct 29 23:04:28 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:04:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
References: <000601c4bdbd$ddea6090$0200a8c0@COA3>
Message-ID: <418312CC.3030209@shaw.ca>

How about using a watched folder or directory, when a file is added to a 
folder then do something

Creating a Watched Folder with FindChangeNotification API
http://vbnet.mvps.org/index.html?code/fileapi/watchedfolder.htm

I didn't realize you could ftp download with a couple of lines of code.
Someone was looking for this, you could stick this in html via vbscript 
or javascript
The popup window allows you to specify where to place the file.

Private Declare Function DoFileDownload Lib "shdocvw" _
    (ByVal lpszFile As String) As Long
 Sub ftptestrun() 
   Dim sDownload As String
   sDownload = 
StrConv("http://www5.brinkster.com/mconnelly/GenericDB/suppliers.csv", 
vbUnicode)
   Call DoFileDownload(sDownload)
End Sub


Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) wrote:

>What does "passive mode" mean in this context?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
>
>
>Hi all
>
>A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
>FTP command line utility with script files.
>
>However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the Windows
>FTP thing can not.
>
>I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so I
>wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can understand
>the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct 30 06:07:57 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:07:57 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <17922621718.20041029143801@cactus.dk>
References: <17922621718.20041029143801@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4911418739.20041030130757@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Well, Google is God if you didn't knew. A search on:

  FTP command line replacement

revealed in a second this nice piece of freeware:

MOVEit Freely version 3.1.5.0, compiled Aug 24 2004 12:29:47
FTPS is a command-line FTP client similar to the FTP.EXE
that comes with Windows 2000, but it also implements secure FTP
(with SSL), and passive mode.  When used with MOVEit DMZ FTP server,
also does on-the-fly compression and integrity checking.
Written by Standard Networks, Inc.  See http://www.stdnet.com

---

Download is here:

  http://www.standardnetworks.com/products/?category_number=7&subcategory_number=1

/gustav


> A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
> FTP command line utility with script files.

> However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the
> Windows FTP thing can not.

> I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so
> I wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can
> understand the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?

> /gustav



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct 30 05:10:08 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:10:08 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <418312CC.3030209@shaw.ca>
References: <000601c4bdbd$ddea6090$0200a8c0@COA3> <418312CC.3030209@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <517949230.20041030121008@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

Interesting, but that also would require a complete rewrite of the
FTP up- and download routines which is what I try to avoid.

/gustav


> How about using a watched folder or directory, when a file is added to a 
> folder then do something

> Creating a Watched Folder with FindChangeNotification API
> http://vbnet.mvps.org/index.html?code/fileapi/watchedfolder.htm

> I didn't realize you could ftp download with a couple of lines of code.
> Someone was looking for this, you could stick this in html via vbscript 
> or javascript
> The popup window allows you to specify where to place the file.

> Private Declare Function DoFileDownload Lib "shdocvw" _
>     (ByVal lpszFile As String) As Long
>  Sub ftptestrun() 
>    Dim sDownload As String
>    sDownload = 
> StrConv("http://www5.brinkster.com/mconnelly/GenericDB/suppliers.csv", 
> vbUnicode)
>    Call DoFileDownload(sDownload)
> End Sub


> Steve Conklin (Developer at UltraDNT) wrote:

>>What does "passive mode" mean in this context?
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:38 AM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
>>
>>
>>Hi all
>>
>>A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
>>FTP command line utility with script files.
>>
>>However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the Windows
>>FTP thing can not.
>>
>>I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so I
>>wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can understand
>>the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?
>>
>>/gustav



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Oct 30 08:18:00 2004
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:18:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
In-Reply-To: <02b201c4bde9$73201ad0$6701a8c0@HAL9002>
Message-ID: <00f901c4be82$e1af1430$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

I'm with you there Rocky. I didn't know that either.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: 29 October 2004 20:00
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
> 
> 
> WHO KNEW???!!!!
> 
> I feel like such a newbie sometimes.
> 
> Thanks for the heads up, Karen.
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nicholson, Karen" <cyx5 at cdc.gov>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:35 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
> 
> 
> > If the form that you are using does not have any data fields on it, 
> > then you can use the straight out press of the letter.  If there is 
> > data fields on the form, the alt-key combo does it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> > Smolin
> > - Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:20 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
> >
> >
> > No.  It's the same on three different boxes.
> >
> > Now, there's a possibility I'm getting senile or losing my 
> beans here. 
> > I use the underscore on all main menu command buttons so 
> that the user
> > doesn't
> > have to use the mouse.
> >
> > Now I've ALWAYS thought that to use those underscores you 
> had to use 
> > the Alt key simultaneously with the underscored character.  
> So maybe 
> > I've never tried it without the Alt key.
> >
> > Now someone just told me that it always worked that way - 
> no alt key 
> > required.
> >
> > So how do are those underscore shortcuts SUPPOSED to work?
> >
> > Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Perry Harold" <pharold at proftesting.com>
> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:42 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
> >
> >
> >> Stuck Key?
> >>
> >> Perry Harold
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> > Smolin -
> >> Beach Access Software
> >> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:33 AM
> >> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> >> Subject: [AccessD] Shortcuts Working without Alt Key
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear List:
> >>
> >> Suddenly, the shortcuts on my forms (the underlined 
> characters) are 
> >> working without pressing the ALT key. This is no good!  
> Does anyone 
> >> know how
> > this
> >> could happen?  It happens on all mdb files.
> >>
> >> MTIA
> >>
> >> Rocky Smolin
> >> Beach Access Software
> >> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
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> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Oct 30 09:36:37 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:36:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <4911418739.20041030130757@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEJLCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Hi Gustav:

Seems like the ticket but I wonder what the product costs as a viewer will
have to ask for a quote to receive that information. Shock or pleasant
surprise?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode


Hi all

Well, Google is God if you didn't knew. A search on:

  FTP command line replacement

revealed in a second this nice piece of freeware:

MOVEit Freely version 3.1.5.0, compiled Aug 24 2004 12:29:47
FTPS is a command-line FTP client similar to the FTP.EXE
that comes with Windows 2000, but it also implements secure FTP
(with SSL), and passive mode.  When used with MOVEit DMZ FTP server,
also does on-the-fly compression and integrity checking.
Written by Standard Networks, Inc.  See http://www.stdnet.com

---

Download is here:


http://www.standardnetworks.com/products/?category_number=7&subcategory_numb
er=1

/gustav


> A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
> FTP command line utility with script files.

> However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the
> Windows FTP thing can not.

> I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so
> I wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can
> understand the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?

> /gustav

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Oct 30 09:49:04 2004
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:49:04 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEJLCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
References: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLIKEJLCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <8224685746.20041030164904@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Looks like USD 25.00:

  https://secure.stdnet.com/moveitstore/store.asp

/gustav


> Hi Gustav:

> Seems like the ticket but I wonder what the product costs as a viewer will
> have to ask for a quote to receive that information. Shock or pleasant
> surprise?

> Jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:08 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode


> Hi all

> Well, Google is God if you didn't knew. A search on:

>   FTP command line replacement

> revealed in a second this nice piece of freeware:

> MOVEit Freely version 3.1.5.0, compiled Aug 24 2004 12:29:47
> FTPS is a command-line FTP client similar to the FTP.EXE
> that comes with Windows 2000, but it also implements secure FTP
> (with SSL), and passive mode.  When used with MOVEit DMZ FTP server,
> also does on-the-fly compression and integrity checking.
> Written by Standard Networks, Inc.  See http://www.stdnet.com

> ---

> Download is here:


> http://www.standardnetworks.com/products/?category_number=7&subcategory_numb
> er=1

> /gustav


>> A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
>> FTP command line utility with script files.

>> However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the
>> Windows FTP thing can not.

>> I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so
>> I wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can
>> understand the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?

>> /gustav



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Oct 30 10:27:24 2004
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence (AccessD))
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 08:27:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode
In-Reply-To: <8224685746.20041030164904@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <FJEJLIPOMCGJALMGLLLICEJMCHAA.accessd@shaw.ca>

Gustav: Not bad... Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode


Hi Jim

Looks like USD 25.00:

  https://secure.stdnet.com/moveitstore/store.asp

/gustav


> Hi Gustav:

> Seems like the ticket but I wonder what the product costs as a viewer will
> have to ask for a quote to receive that information. Shock or pleasant
> surprise?

> Jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:08 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] FTP command line, passive mode


> Hi all

> Well, Google is God if you didn't knew. A search on:

>   FTP command line replacement

> revealed in a second this nice piece of freeware:

> MOVEit Freely version 3.1.5.0, compiled Aug 24 2004 12:29:47
> FTPS is a command-line FTP client similar to the FTP.EXE
> that comes with Windows 2000, but it also implements secure FTP
> (with SSL), and passive mode.  When used with MOVEit DMZ FTP server,
> also does on-the-fly compression and integrity checking.
> Written by Standard Networks, Inc.  See http://www.stdnet.com

> ---

> Download is here:


>
http://www.standardnetworks.com/products/?category_number=7&subcategory_numb
> er=1

> /gustav


>> A client has an app which uses a lot of calls of the standard Windows
>> FTP command line utility with script files.

>> However, the client now need it to run in passive mode which the
>> Windows FTP thing can not.

>> I can rewrite the app using 3D-FTP but that will be a lot of work - so
>> I wonder if anyone is aware of a direct replacement which can
>> understand the script files you can pass to Windows FTP?

>> /gustav

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Oct 30 13:47:58 2004
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:47:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
	task.
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B059F68@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <4183E1DE.2010901@shaw.ca>

Here is another email method. I am not sure of all of the ramifications 
of this method.
Any comments?
I just saw a site where you can purchase one client access to a remote 
Exchange Server
over the net paying by the month. Just to add further email oddities.

'The example code is using CDOSYS (CDO for Windows 2000 or XP).
'I dont think I would want to go back to CDONTS for earlier systems
'It does not depend on MAPI or CDO or Outlook
'It does not use your mailbox to send email.
' So you can send mail without a mail program or mail account
' This code builds the message and drops it into a pickup directory,
' and the SMTP service running on the machine
' picks it up and send it out to the internet.

'So why use CDO code instead of Outlook automation or 
Application.SendMail in VBA.
' It doesn't matter what Mail program you are using (It uses the SMTP 
server).
' It doesn't matter what Office version you are using.
' supposedly you can send an object or file in the body of the mail 
(some mail programs can?t do this)
' haven't verified this
' You can send any file attachment you like.
' No Outlook Security warning so no need for Redemption

' You probably wont have your mail server full expanded smtp address
'If you go into netscape mail or outlook and look for the smtp name
'It will look like mine, "shawmail" or "shawnews" this dns resolves
'to "shawmail.cg.shawcable.net" CDO doesn't resolve this short name so
'The quickest way to get this actual address without using registry et al.
'is run cmd and ping "shawmail" to return full qualified smtp address.
'This code wont run exactly unless you are on cable and signed on in the 
Shaw domain

Sub SendCDO()
' This example use late binding of CDOSys, you don't have to set a reference
' You must be online to net when you run the sub
' You must be running WinXP or Win2000
Dim cdoMessage As Object
Dim objCDOMail As Object
Dim strschema As String
On Error GoTo ErrorHandler ' Enable error-handling routine.
'
Set cdoMessage = CreateObject("CDO.Message")
Set objCDOMail = CreateObject("CDO.Configuration")
strschema = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/"
objCDOMail.Load -1 ' CDO Source Default
'If you have illegal or wrong smtp address here it will run for 30-60 
seconds and finally give transport error
With objCDOMail.Fields
.Item(strschema & "sendusing") = 2 ' cdoSendUsingPort
.Item(strschema & "smtpserver") = "shawmail.cg.shawcable.net" ' "Your 
SMTP server address here"
.Item(strschema & "smtpserverport") = 25 'specify port number
.Update
End With

With cdoMessage
Set .Configuration = objCDOMail
.to = "martyconnelly at gmail.com"
.From = "Winnie The Pooh <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>"
.CC = ""
.BCC = ""
.Subject = "This is another test from marty"
.TextBody = "This is the text in the body just cdo defaults"
.AddAttachment "C:\temp2\rptSampleCount.rtf"
.AddAttachment "C:\temp2\frontimage.jpeg"
.send
End With

Set cdoMessage = Nothing
Set objCDOMail = Nothing
Exit Sub ' Exit to avoid handler.
ErrorHandler: ' Error-handling routine.
Debug.Print Err.Number & "-" & Err.Description
Set cdoMessage = Nothing
Set objCDOMail = Nothing
Exit Sub
End Sub




Joe Rojas wrote:

>I am using the code the M&D Manning provided for me.
>
>JR
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:20 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
>task.
>
>It would be more useful to see the Redemption code you're trying to use.
>You have licensed the Redemption library, right?  There is quite a bit
>of help that comes with it.  Redemption code doesn't use the
>Outlook.Application object like that.  It uses MAPI.Message and
>MAPI.Recipient and MAPI.Session.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com]
>Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:47 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Help with using Redemption to assing an Outlook
>task.
>
>
>Hi All,
>
>I am asking this group my question on Redemption because I have seen
>several times when Redemption was offered as a solution for bypassing
>Outlook's e-mail security features.
>
>Below is a function that I am currently using that sends/assigns a task
>the Outlook Object Model only and works perfectly. I want to port this
>code so that it is using Redemption in order to bypass the e-mail
>security features. I have been trying to the past two days and have not
>had any luck.
>
>Can someone please help me with this?
>
>TIA!
>JR
>
>Public Function SendTask()
>   
>    Dim objOutlook As Outlook.Application
>    Dim objOutlookTsk As Outlook.TaskItem
>   
>    Dim strRecipList() As String
>    Dim strNum As String
>    Dim DDueDate As Date
>    Dim strNote As String
>    Dim strBody As String
>    Dim i As Integer
>       
>    strRecipList() = Split(Forms!PrevActions!tbToWhom, ";")
>    strNum = Forms![DMR Form]![tbDMRNum]
>    DDueDate = Forms!PrevActions!tbDueDate
>    strNote = Forms![DMR Form]!tbPartNo
>    strBody = "Part Number: " & strNote & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
>    "Discrepency: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
>subform]!Discrepency, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
>    "Remedial Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
>subform]![Corrective action], "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf & _
>    "Corrective Action: " & Nz(Forms![DMR Form]![Discrepencies
>subform]!tbPrevActsub, "None Entered") & vbCrLf & vbCrLf
>   
>   
>    ' Create the Outlook session.
>    Set objOutlook = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
>
>    ' Create the message.
>    Set objOutlookTsk = objOutlook.CreateItem(olTaskItem)
>
>    With objOutlookTsk
>        ' Add the To recipient(s) to the message.
>        For i = 0 To UBound(strRecipList)
>            objOutlookTsk.Recipients.Add(strRecipList(i)).Type = olTo
>        Next
>               
>        ' Set the Subject, Body, and Importance of the message.
>        .Subject = "Corrective Action for DMR#" & strNum & " - (" &
>strNote & ")"
>        .Body = strBody
>        .Importance = olImportanceHigh  'High importance
>        .ReminderSet = True
>        .ReminderTime = DDueDate - 7
>        .DueDate = DDueDate
>     
>
>        ' Resolve each Recipient's name.
>        For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
>            objOutlookRecip.Resolve
>            If Not objOutlookRecip.Resolve Then
>                objOutlookTsk.Display
>            End If
>        Next
>       
>        .Save
>        .Assign
>        .Send
>       
>    End With
>   Set objOutlookTsk = Nothing
>   Set objOutlook = Nothing
>  
>   MsgBox "Task has been assigned.", , "Task sent"
>
>End Function
>
>
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From pcs at azizaz.com  Sun Oct 31 20:50:56 2004
From: pcs at azizaz.com (Borge Steen Hansen)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:50:56 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] CurrentDB Error
Message-ID: <009501c4bfbd$9d132be0$fa10a8c0@Albatross>

Hi,
I have a some Access97 database applications that have been working for
years.
They are currently sitting on WinXP with AccessXP installed as well.

Been working on the XP box for over a year!

Recently when making a minor modification and doing a 'Compile and Save' I
get the following message on the first instance of CurrentDb

Compile Error:
Funtion or interface marked as restricted, or the function uses Automation
type not supported in Visual Basic.

I have reference to Microsoft DAO Object Library 3.6
The dao.dll is version 03.60.8618.0

Even if I try to disambiguate the thing, the compile error comes up:

like:

dim db as DAO.Database
set db = CurrentDb

when compiling it will error on the set db = CurrentDb line.

Can anyone help me to shed light on what is going on?


Regards
Borge
Gold Coast, Australia


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