[AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack

Brett Barabash BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com
Thu Sep 9 10:03:29 CDT 2004


Jim,
I talked to your contact in April before purchasing our subscriptions,
and was quoted a price of $1675 each.  He pointed out the Microsoft has
changed their distribution strategy and thus has gained more control
over prices being charged by independent vendors :-(

I shopped around and ended up purchasing from these guys:
http://www.softwaremore-usa.com/msun70.html

FULL MSDN Universal 7.0 subscription for $1050.00.  Not an academic
edition, and the disks shipped immediately from MS headquarters.  I
would highly recommend this vendor.

(Back when I purchased mine, MS also had a $300.00 rebate for purchasing
this software on DVD.  Unfortunately it is no more...)

Bobby,
Don't waste your time on an Academic subscription.  The licensing
agreements normally prohibit using it to develop software for clients.

All,
Even though the MSDN subscription (and updates) lasts for only a year,
the software has a perpetual license:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/faq/default.aspx#licensing

However, there are certain limitations to the use of the software (e.g.
you can use SQL Server for development, but you can't run your company's
DB server with it!)


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack


That sounds like the price for the academic version of MSDN Universal.

Provantage has the Universal version (non academic) for $2426.49
http://tinyurl.com/6wj8j
http://www.provantage.com/buy-7MCSN005-microsoft-developer-network-msdn-
univ
ersal-v7-0-subscription-534-02125-shopping.htm

Enterprise edition (non academic) $1913.79 http://tinyurl.com/5uuro
http://www.provantage.com/buy-7MCSN008-microsoft-developer-network-msdn-
ente
rprise-v7-0-subscription-shopping.htm

Enterprise edition (academic) $574.79
http://tinyurl.com/5qcct
http://www.provantage.com/buy-22062410-microsoft-developer-network-msdn-
acad
emic-editions-enterprise-v7-0-subscription-ae-shopping.htm

They do not (that I can see) have the Universal academic version.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:04 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack


John (and all)

  Not that much more.  A full Action Pack subscription is $399.  I found
a MSDN Universal subscription for $875 last year.  Your talking a
difference of only $400 bucks.

Jim Dettman
President,
Online Computer Services of WNY, Inc.
(315) 699-3443
jimdettman at earthlink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8:20 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack


And the cost of that is MUCH more.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 6:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack


The action pack isn't really for developers in that sense.  It's for
partners so that the entire office can work with the same versions of
the MS applications.  The developers tools are in the MSDN Universal
subscription.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Waters [mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 5:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack


John,

I didn't see Visual Studio for Applications on your list.  This would
allow setting up an installation package for Access Runtime.  I would
have guessed that this would have been included in a package for
developers.  Is it really missing?

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 11:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack

The action pack is a deal MS offers developers or companies that develop
for or sell MS stuff.  For $300-400 they give you a ton of the latest
software and 10 licenses for all of it.  You are allowed to use it in
house, but not sell it or install it on any client machines.  It
includes:

Office Professional 2003
Office Publisher 2003
Office Frontpage 2003
Office Visio Professional 2003
Office Project Professional 2003
Business contact Manager for Outlook 2003 Office OneNote 2003 MapPoint
2004 Standard Edition Windows XP Professional Virtual PC 2004 Office
Infopath 2003 Business Solutions CRM Professional Windows Server 2003
Standard Edition Windows Server 2003 Web Edition Exchange Server 2003
Enterprise Edition Office Project Server 2003 Office Sharepoint Server
2003 Office Live Communications Server 2003 SQL Server 2000 Standard
Edition (damn!) SQL Server 2000 Service Pack 3a SQL Server Reporting
Services Mobile Information Server 2002 Swindows Sharepoint Services
Standard 2003 Windows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition

What is all this stuff you may ask.  No idea.

The package appears to also come with some kind of training CD for each
ofr these things.  No books, must all be on CD.  A neat little (BIG)
organizer size canvas folder to hold the disks.  Nothing to hold the
training materials (C'mon MS, another folder to hold that and the
sleeves hole punched would have made it so much more professional).

http://members.microsoft.com/partner/salesmarketing/partnermarket/action
pack
/actionpackus.aspx

Watch for wrap.

I had been looking at this package for awhile in order to bring my
office into the modern age (as defined by MS).

So there you have it.  A lot of stuff for a medium price (one year
license though!).  But it gives you 10 licenses.  I can put XP on all my
desktops, Server 2003 on both my new "server" machines, look at and
possibly use Office 2003 on my machines etc.  I have a home office with
2 "server class"
machines and 2 desktop machines, plus one modern laptop and an old POS
laptop that I am currently re-installing Win2K Pro on. Being able to get
a consistent platform on everything might be nice.

I had hoped to see 64bit OS and SQL Server included - they apparently do
exists, but not in here.  8-(

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 2:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] AHOO!!! Got my action pack


What's the main advantage to having the Action pack?

"John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
I just got my MS Action pack, very nice. So much to know, so little
time.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


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