From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr  1 00:05:26 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:05:26 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Replicated .mdb and SQL Server
References: <00a801c5352b$4b24dca0$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
	<424B23B8.6080706@shaw.ca> <015201c53576$cac2bc20$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
	<424C2E02.5060008@shaw.ca> <00f501c53615$5b8b5c00$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <424CE4A6.2020606@shaw.ca>

Well there is a  for real Moose Jaw Saskatchewan , my sister in law is 
from that neck of the prairie,
Moose Pasture in Canda means something like buying the Brooklyn Bridge 
for the mining or oil industry.
Generally it is swamp with a lot of high water. But you can push a canoe 
through it.
Although there was a young woman geologist who found one of the biggest 
diamond mines
in the world under a lake up in the NWT in the mid 90's. In real moose 
pasture territory.
The diamonds from that neck of the woods have a teeny tiny laser 
engraved  polar bear
around the buckle of the stone.

I would really check on your clients budget to clarify his needs

Barbara Ryan wrote:

>Marty.... Thank you SO much for all the information.  I felt so lost!  I
>will take a look at it and discuss it with my client.
>
>BTW --- Is there really a "Moose Pasture Saskatchewan"?
>
>Barb Ryan
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replicated .mdb and SQL Server
>
>
>  
>
>>Here is a starting point on SQL Server Replication,
>>http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=169612&seqNum=3
>>You are going to have to decide whether you can get by with Merge
>>replication and MSDE
>>or buy multiple SQL licenses to handle full transactional replication. I
>>am not sure if SQL 2005 Express
>>(the latest Beta incarnation of MSDE) handles transactional replication.
>>You will have to look at the requirements for the salesman, do they need
>>access to real time data
>>and or will they have almost constant internet connections via wireless
>>like a blackberry or cell phone connections.
>>with this you might get away with running multiple Access FE's to a
>>single remote SQL server. Connection coverage areas
>>than enter the picture, if you have salesmen going out to places like
>>Moose Pasture Saskatchewan, this may present problems.
>>So you may want a pushed merged copy of  the latest data on a MSDE to
>>use when no connection is present.
>>Then there maybe a question of using VPN for connection security.
>>There is a whole series of articles on SQL replication here.
>>http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/
>>search on sql replication
>> You realize that even some experienced SQL DBA's feel unsure of
>>themselves getting into replication.
>>So you may want to go with the simple Access FE to a remote SQL Server.
>>Barbara Ryan wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Regarding "Do you plan on running replicated SQL server or updating via
>>>      
>>>
>the
>  
>
>>>internet and SQL Server?"
>>>
>>>---- I don't know!  I know very little about SQL Server.  I am open to
>>>      
>>>
>any
>  
>
>>>suggestions on how I can handle this situation (i.e.,  the Access
>>>application (front end) is linked to 2 separate back end .mdbs.  Backend
>>>      
>>>
>"A"
>  
>
>>>contains the majority of the data tables for the application; Backend "B"
>>>      
>>>
>is
>  
>
>>>a replicable database that is also used as the sole backend database for
>>>another Access application that is used by salesmen on their laptops.
>>>      
>>>
>The
>  
>
>>>front end contains some queries that currently join tables from both
>>>      
>>>
>Backend
>  
>
>>>"A" AND Backend "B".)
>>>
>>>Could the salesmen use an Access backend and somehow synchronize it with
>>>      
>>>
>a
>  
>
>>>SQL Server database?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Barb Ryan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:10 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replicated .mdb and SQL Server
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I don't know if the Access to SQL upgrade wizard handles replicated
>>>>databases but here is an unreplicator just in case
>>>>http://www.trigeminal.com/lang/1033/utility.asp?ItemID=7#7
>>>>Do you plan on running replicated SQL server or updating via the
>>>>internet and SQL Server?
>>>>
>>>>Barbara Ryan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>I currently have an Access application, split into a front end linked
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>to
>  
>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>2 separate back end .mdbs.  Backend "A" contains the majority of the data
>>>tables for the application; Backend "B" is a replicable database that is
>>>also used as the backend database for another Access application that is
>>>used by salesmen on their laptops.
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>The client is considering migrating the data for this application to
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>SQL
>  
>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>Server.  Any ideas on how to handle this?  The front end contains some
>>>queries that currently join tables from both Backend "A" AND Backend "B".
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Barb Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>-- 
>>>>Marty Connelly
>>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>>Canada
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>-- 
>>Marty Connelly
>>Victoria, B.C.
>>Canada
>>
>>
>>
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>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada




From vrm at tim-cms.com  Fri Apr  1 02:55:55 2005
From: vrm at tim-cms.com (Marcel Vreuls)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:55:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050401115842.0289a410@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <200504010356875.SM04532@ORSLAPTOP>

Dear Group,

Just a quick question. Does someone know how I can collect all rows in
vbacode where the function msgbox is stated and put this in the debug window
or just drop in a file.


Thanks in advance,

Marcel



From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Fri Apr  1 03:23:41 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:23:41 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] microsoft access questions
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225794@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi Marvin

To get sequential numbers you do need an autonumber primary key. If you try
to change the column you already have, I suspect it will fail. You probably
need to add a new primary key field and remove the number field you have
currently.

Once the underlying data is corrected the report should be OK. You may also
find that your referential integrity works once you have a unique key. It
should be noted, however, that cascade deletes are dangerous and best
avoided... Try it and get back to us.

Sorry I can't help you on the software question.

HTH

Roz



-----Original Message-----
From: marvin hunkin [mailto:marvkin at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 01 April 2005 00:52
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] microsoft access questions


hi.
doing a database assignment for my access class.
i am a blind student at my college in australia.
using ms access 2000, windows 2000, and using the jaws screen reading
software and using version 5.10 for more information about jaws for windows
go to http://www.freedomscientific.com now have had several problems. now if
any one can give me some answers on how to fix the problems i am having. 1.
one of my queeries which i built from a table and imported from excel. it
has the primary key field set to number. but instead of giving me sequential
numbers like 1.2,3, it only says 1,1,1, etc. should i try to set the data
type back to autom number? will this fix this problem? also got the same
problem with my report, it just keeps saying the id 1, for each record. it
should say id 2. id3, etc. how do i fix this? 2. when i set up my
relationships to the id fields in my tables in access , and try to tick the
referential integrity, cascade update records, update deleted records, and
try to click on create, it gives me a message saying the database could not
lock the table, or that the data fields are not the same type, as they are
all data type of number, and set to long integer. 3. i created several
reports and sub report in collumna format. how do i resize the report and
sub report using the keyboard? jaws will not let me use the mouse, or reads
very erraticly. is there any third party software that will allow me to
resize reports and sub reports in access 2000? if any one can help me, then
e-mail  me privately off list. cheers Marvin.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr  1 04:20:43 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 02:20:43 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Replicated .mdb and SQL Server
In-Reply-To: <00f501c53615$5b8b5c00$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <0IE900A13JI66S@l-daemon>

Hi Bard:

There is Moose Pasture in Saskatchewan but no Moose Pasture Saskatchewan
just as there is no Split lip Saskatchewan or Dogs Breathe Alberta.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Ryan
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replicated .mdb and SQL Server

Marty.... Thank you SO much for all the information.  I felt so lost!  I
will take a look at it and discuss it with my client.

BTW --- Is there really a "Moose Pasture Saskatchewan"?

Barb Ryan



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replicated .mdb and SQL Server


> Here is a starting point on SQL Server Replication,
> http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=169612&seqNum=3
> You are going to have to decide whether you can get by with Merge
> replication and MSDE
> or buy multiple SQL licenses to handle full transactional replication. I
> am not sure if SQL 2005 Express
> (the latest Beta incarnation of MSDE) handles transactional replication.
> You will have to look at the requirements for the salesman, do they need
> access to real time data
> and or will they have almost constant internet connections via wireless
> like a blackberry or cell phone connections.
> with this you might get away with running multiple Access FE's to a
> single remote SQL server. Connection coverage areas
> than enter the picture, if you have salesmen going out to places like
> Moose Pasture Saskatchewan, this may present problems.
> So you may want a pushed merged copy of  the latest data on a MSDE to
> use when no connection is present.
> Then there maybe a question of using VPN for connection security.
> There is a whole series of articles on SQL replication here.
> http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/
> search on sql replication
>  You realize that even some experienced SQL DBA's feel unsure of
> themselves getting into replication.
> So you may want to go with the simple Access FE to a remote SQL Server.
> Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
> >Regarding "Do you plan on running replicated SQL server or updating via
the
> >internet and SQL Server?"
> >
> >---- I don't know!  I know very little about SQL Server.  I am open to
any
> >suggestions on how I can handle this situation (i.e.,  the Access
> >application (front end) is linked to 2 separate back end .mdbs.  Backend
"A"
> >contains the majority of the data tables for the application; Backend "B"
is
> >a replicable database that is also used as the sole backend database for
> >another Access application that is used by salesmen on their laptops.
The
> >front end contains some queries that currently join tables from both
Backend
> >"A" AND Backend "B".)
> >
> >Could the salesmen use an Access backend and somehow synchronize it with
a
> >SQL Server database?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Barb Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> ><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:10 PM
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replicated .mdb and SQL Server
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>I don't know if the Access to SQL upgrade wizard handles replicated
> >>databases but here is an unreplicator just in case
> >>http://www.trigeminal.com/lang/1033/utility.asp?ItemID=7#7
> >>Do you plan on running replicated SQL server or updating via the
> >>internet and SQL Server?
> >>
> >>Barbara Ryan wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I currently have an Access application, split into a front end linked
to
> >>>
> >>>
> >2 separate back end .mdbs.  Backend "A" contains the majority of the data
> >tables for the application; Backend "B" is a replicable database that is
> >also used as the backend database for another Access application that is
> >used by salesmen on their laptops.
> >
> >
> >>>The client is considering migrating the data for this application to
SQL
> >>>
> >>>
> >Server.  Any ideas on how to handle this?  The front end contains some
> >queries that currently join tables from both Backend "A" AND Backend "B".
> >
> >
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Barb Ryan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>-- 
> >>Marty Connelly
> >>Victoria, B.C.
> >>Canada
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>AccessD mailing list
> >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
>
>
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Fri Apr  1 07:36:23 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:36:23 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: microsoft access questions
In-Reply-To: <200504010608.j3168wi19218@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050401073136.01403b08@pop3.highstream.net>

Marvin,

1.  If it is a primary key, then it will not allow a 1 multiple 
times.  Just add a column and make it an autonumber data type, remove the 
current column, then rename the new column to be the same as the column you 
removed.

2.  Why are you trying to "trick" referential integrity?  Your 
relationships a not correct according to data type, or you would not get 
the error you are getting.  My guess is that you also do not really have 
primary keys establishes, reference number 1 above.  And you cannot cascade 
or update with out a true primary key.

3.  Shift and the arrow keys.

Robert

At 12:08 AM 4/1/2005 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:51:36 +1000
>From: "marvin hunkin" <marvkin at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] microsoft access questions
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <BAY102-DAV15EE448AA3D6BF3D9798E3AB470 at phx.gbl>
>
>hi.
>doing a database assignment for my access class.
>i am a blind student at my college in australia.
>using ms access 2000, windows 2000, and using the jaws screen reading
>software and using version 5.10 for more information about jaws for windows
>go to http://www.freedomscientific.com
>now have had several problems.
>now if any one can give me some answers on how to fix the problems i am
>having.
>1. one of my queeries which i built from a table and imported from excel.
>it  has the primary key field set to number.
>but instead of giving me sequential numbers like 1.2,3, it only says 1,1,1,
>etc.
>should i try to set the data type back to autom number? will this fix this
>problem?
>also got the same problem with my report, it just keeps saying the id 1, for
>each record. it should say id 2. id3, etc.
>how do i fix this?
>2. when i set up my relationships to the id fields in my tables in access ,
>and try to tick the referential integrity, cascade update records, update
>deleted records, and try to click on create, it gives me a message saying
>the database could not lock the table, or that the data fields are not the
>same type, as they are all data type of number, and set to long integer.
>3. i created several reports and sub report in collumna format.
>how do i resize the report and sub report using the keyboard? jaws will not
>let me use the mouse, or reads very erraticly. is there any third party
>software that will allow me to resize reports and sub reports in access
>2000?
>if any one can help me, then e-mail  me privately off list.
>cheers Marvin.




From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Apr  1 08:14:06 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:14:06 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2EEB@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Try Rick Fisher's Find and Replace (Google will locate if for you).

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Marcel Vreuls
> Sent:	Friday, April 01, 2005 3:56 AM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	[AccessD] Collect information with vba code
> 
> Dear Group,
> 
> Just a quick question. Does someone know how I can collect all rows in
> vbacode where the function msgbox is stated and put this in the debug
> window
> or just drop in a file.
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Marcel
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  1 08:43:01 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:43:01 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
Message-ID: <s24d7a33.001@cactus.dk>

Hi all

When I try to launch Access 95 (don't ask) on Windows XP it stops at
the splash screen with an "Out of memory" error.
I guess it's the opposite, my 1 GB ram confuses Access, but how to fool
Access 95 to accept or ignore the size of memory?

I have tried creating a PIF file with Windows 95 compatibility mode but
still no go.
Any ideas?

/gustav

PS: This is no April fool ..


From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Apr  1 08:56:12 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 08:56:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
In-Reply-To: <s24d7a33.001@cactus.dk>
References: <s24d7a33.001@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <aea6c49505040106561465a525@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Gustav,

Not exactly the same error message, but it may be the same problem -
something related to HIMEM expanded memory that we used to have to
suffer with back in the olden days.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767

also see

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301911

Good luck with it!

Gary


On Apr 1, 2005 8:43 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> When I try to launch Access 95 (don't ask) on Windows XP it stops at
> the splash screen with an "Out of memory" error.
> I guess it's the opposite, my 1 GB ram confuses Access, but how to fool
> Access 95 to accept or ignore the size of memory?
> 
> I have tried creating a PIF file with Windows 95 compatibility mode but
> still no go.
> Any ideas?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> PS: This is no April fool ..
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From pharold at proftesting.com  Fri Apr  1 09:03:28 2005
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:03:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
In-Reply-To: <s24d7a33.001@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000501c536cb$f68772a0$192da8c0@D58BT131Perry>

Gustav

Link from MS

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?id=161255

Talks about the problem but doesn't look like either solution would help in
your case but worth a try.

Perry

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:43 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory


Hi all

When I try to launch Access 95 (don't ask) on Windows XP it stops at the
splash screen with an "Out of memory" error. I guess it's the opposite, my 1
GB ram confuses Access, but how to fool Access 95 to accept or ignore the
size of memory?

I have tried creating a PIF file with Windows 95 compatibility mode but
still no go. Any ideas?

/gustav

PS: This is no April fool ..
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Apr  1 09:00:40 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:00:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Reminder - Friday Joke Day
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43013BD1F3@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

April Fool's Day and No Jokes?


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  1 09:21:07 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:21:07 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
Message-ID: <s24d830f.003@cactus.dk>

Hi Perry

Thanks, but Jet SP3 is installed. It worked for Access 97 but not for
A95.

/gustav

>>> pharold at proftesting.com 04/01 5:03 pm >>>
Gustav

Link from MS

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?id=161255 

Talks about the problem but doesn't look like either solution would
help in
your case but worth a try.

Perry

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:43 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory


Hi all

When I try to launch Access 95 (don't ask) on Windows XP it stops at
the
splash screen with an "Out of memory" error. I guess it's the opposite,
my 1
GB ram confuses Access, but how to fool Access 95 to accept or ignore
the
size of memory?

I have tried creating a PIF file with Windows 95 compatibility mode
but
still no go. Any ideas?

/gustav

PS: This is no April fool ..



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Apr  1 09:35:36 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:35:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Reminder - Friday Joke Day
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08657DD43B@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I found Google's contribution pretty funny:
http://www.google.com/googlegulp/ 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:01 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] Reminder - Friday Joke Day

April Fool's Day and No Jokes?

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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  1 09:44:37 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 07:44:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Zipping files in "subfolders" through Access
Message-ID: <20050401154437.42935.qmail@web20425.mail.yahoo.com>

I've used the following to zip files from a particualar location. It works fine. Now I want to use it on a folder where all the files are in subfolders. I can't seem to tweek it. Has anyone done this before?

Function ZipIt()
 
Dim i As Integer
Dim strFileLoc As String
strFileLoc = "C:\Tables\"
Dim strAppName As String
Dim strZipFile As String
Dim strTargetFiles(1500) As String
Dim strDirPath As String
Dim NewZip As String
 
strDirPath = Dir(strFileLoc & "*.*")
 
Do While strDirPath <> ""
strTargetFiles(i) = strDirPath
strDirPath = Dir
i = i + 1
Loop
 
NewZip = "C:\BackUp\Tables\" & Format(Now(), "yyyy-mm-dd-hh-mm") & "-Tables.zip"
 
'Location of zip executable
strAppName = "C:\Program Files\WinZip\WINZIP32.EXE"
'
Name of new zipfile.
strZipFile = NewZip
 
'Zipping proceess
Call Shell(strAppName & " -A " & """" & strZipFile & """" & " " & """" & strFileLoc & strTargetFiles(i) & """", 1)




May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us





 





		
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  1 10:02:12 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:02:12 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
Message-ID: <s24d8cb8.004@cactus.dk>

Hi Garry

Thanks, but no luck. The compatibility mode settings don't seem to make
any difference.

/gustav

>>> garykjos at gmail.com 04/01 4:56 pm >>>
Hi Gustav,

Not exactly the same error message, but it may be the same problem -
something related to HIMEM expanded memory that we used to have to
suffer with back in the olden days.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767 

also see

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301911 

Good luck with it!

Gary


On Apr 1, 2005 8:43 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> When I try to launch Access 95 (don't ask) on Windows XP it stops at
> the splash screen with an "Out of memory" error.
> I guess it's the opposite, my 1 GB ram confuses Access, but how to
fool
> Access 95 to accept or ignore the size of memory?
> 
> I have tried creating a PIF file with Windows 95 compatibility mode
but
> still no go.
> Any ideas?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> PS: This is no April fool ..



From James at fcidms.com  Fri Apr  1 10:13:30 2005
From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:13:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Reminder - Friday Joke Day
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08657DD43B@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <0IE900648ZQL04@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

 **********************************
Comprehending Engineers - Take One
 **********************************
Two engineering students were walking across campus when one said, "Where
did you get such a great bike?"
 
 The second engineer replied, "Well, I was walking along yesterday minding
my own business when a beautiful woman rode up on this bike. She threw the
bike to the ground, took off all her clothes and said, "Take what you want."

The other engineer nodded approvingly, "Good choice; the clothes  probably
wouldn't have fit." 

**********************************
Comprehending Engineers - Take Two
**********************************
To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half
empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

************************************
Comprehending Engineers - Take Three
************************************
A pastor, a doctor and an engineer were waiting one morning for a
particularly slow group of golfers. The engineer fumed, "What's with these
guys? We must have been waiting for 15 minutes!" The doctor chimed in, "I
don't know, but I've never seen such ineptitude! "The pastor said, "Hey,
here comes the greenskeeper. Let's have a word with him."
 
[dramatic pause] 
"Hi George. Say, what's with that group ahead of us? They're rather slow,
aren't they?" The greenskeeper replied, "Oh, yes, that's a group of blind
firefighters. They lost their sight saving our clubhouse from a fire last
year, so we always let them play for free anytime."

The group was silent for a moment.

The pastor said, "That's so sad. I think I will say a special prayer for
them tonight."The doctor said, "Good idea. And I'm going to contact my
ophthalmologist buddy and see if there's anything he can do for them." The
engineer said, "Why can't these guys play at night?" 
       
 ***********************************
Comprehending Engineers - Take Four
***********************************
There was an engineer who had an exceptional gift for fixing all things
mechanical. After serving his company loyally for over 30 years, he
happily retired.  
 
Several years later the company contacted him regarding a seemingly
impossible problem they were having with one of their multimillion dollar
machines. They had tried everything and everyone else to get the machine to
work but to no avail. In desperation, they called on the retired engineer
who had solved so many of their problems in the past.

The engineer reluctantly took the challenge. He spent a day studying the
huge machine. At the end of the day, he marked a small "x" in chalk on a
particular component of the machine and stated, "This where your problem
is." The part was replaced and the machine worked perfectly again.

The company received a bill for $50,000 from the engineer for his service.
 They demanded an itemized accounting of his charges.

The engineer responded briefly: One chalk mark $ 1.  Knowing where to put it
$49,999 .  It was paid in full and the engineer retired again in peace. 

 ***********************************
 Comprehending Engineers - Take Five
 ***********************************
What is the difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil  Engineers?

Mechanical Engineers build weapons, Civil Engineers build targets. 

**********************************
Comprehending Engineers - Take Six
**********************************
The graduate with a Science degree asks, "Why does it work?" The graduate
with an Engineering degree asks, "How does it work?"

The graduate with an Accounting degree asks, "How much will it cost?" The
graduate with a Liberal Arts degree asks, "Do you want fries with that?"

************************************
 Comprehending Engineers - Take Seven
************************************
Three engineering students were gathered together discussing the possible
designers of the human body. One said,  "It was a mechanical engineer. Just
look at all the joints."
 
Another said, "No, it was an electrical engineer. The nervous system has
many thousands of electrical connections."

The last said, "Actually it was a civil engineer. Who else would run a
toxic waste pipeline through a recreational area?"
 
 ************************************
Comprehending Engineers - Take Eight
 ************************************
"Normal people ... believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Engineers
believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet."
----- Scott Adams, The Dilbert Principle 
  
***********************************
Comprehending Engineers - Take Nine
 ***********************************
An architect, an artist and an engineer were discussing whether it was
better to spend time with the wife or a mistress.
 
The architect said he enjoyed time with his wife, building a solid
foundation for an enduring relationship.

 The artist said he enjoyed time with his mistress, because of the passion
and mystery he found there.

The engineer said, "I like both."
 
 "Both?"  
  
 Engineer: "Yeah. If you have a wife and a mistress, they will each assume
you are spending time with the other woman, and you can go to the lab and
get some work done.
 
**********************************
Comprehending Engineers - Take Ten
********************************
An engineer was crossing a road one day when a frog called out to him  and
said, "If you kiss me, I'll turn into a beautiful princess."

He bent over, picked up the frog and put it in his pocket.
The frog spoke up again and said, "If you kiss me and turn me back into a
beautiful princess, I will stay with you for one week."
 
The engineer took the frog out of his pocket, smiled at it and returned it
to the pocket.  

The frog then cried out, "If you kiss me and turn me back into a princess,
I'll stay with you and do ANYTHING you want."

Again the engineer took the frog out, smiled at it and put it back into his
pocket.  

Finally, the frog asked, "What is the matter? I've told you I'm a beautiful
princess, that I'll stay with you for a week and do anything  you want. Why
won't you kiss me?"
 
The engineer said, "Look I'm an engineer. I don't have time for a
girlfriend, but a talking frog, now that's cool."

  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:01 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Reminder - Friday Joke Day

April Fool's Day and No Jokes?




From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Apr  1 10:13:48 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:13:48 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
In-Reply-To: <s24d8cb8.004@cactus.dk>
References: <s24d8cb8.004@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950504010813379b6152@mail.gmail.com>

Might be drastic, but if you have more than one Memory module
comprising your 1GB ram, perhaps you could temporarily remove one and
get it under that magic number just to see if that is what is causing
the issue?  Or try it on another machine with less RAM than that if
you have one available?

On Apr 1, 2005 10:02 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Garry
> 
> Thanks, but no luck. The compatibility mode settings don't seem to make
> any difference.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> garykjos at gmail.com 04/01 4:56 pm >>>
> Hi Gustav,
> 
> Not exactly the same error message, but it may be the same problem -
> something related to HIMEM expanded memory that we used to have to
> suffer with back in the olden days.
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767
> 
> also see
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301911
> 
> Good luck with it!
> 
> Gary
> 
> On Apr 1, 2005 8:43 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > When I try to launch Access 95 (don't ask) on Windows XP it stops at
> > the splash screen with an "Out of memory" error.
> > I guess it's the opposite, my 1 GB ram confuses Access, but how to
> fool
> > Access 95 to accept or ignore the size of memory?
> >
> > I have tried creating a PIF file with Windows 95 compatibility mode
> but
> > still no go.
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> > PS: This is no April fool ..
> 
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-- 
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From jim.moss at jlmoss.net  Fri Apr  1 10:30:21 2005
From: jim.moss at jlmoss.net (Jim Moss)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:30:21 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
Message-ID: <50286.205.241.239.167.1112373021.squirrel@205.241.239.167>

Gustav,


This probably isn't the problem but what version of Jet is on the system?
If < 3.51 then an upgrade to a later rev of Jet might fix the problem.


Jim




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Apr  1 10:36:53 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:36:53 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Reminder - Friday Joke Day
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43013BD1F3@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <000a01c536d9$03cdf6c0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Found this site the other day. It's very useful. If you've got a few minutes
it can find old pictures of you from school for free. The link is

http://www.worldschoolphotographs.com

I do hope you enjoy it. For me it was really strange to see myself at that
age. I think I've changed a lot.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 
 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Nicholson, Karen
> Sent: 01 April 2005 16:01
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Reminder - Friday Joke Day
> 
> 
> April Fool's Day and No Jokes?
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  1 10:47:30 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:47:30 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
Message-ID: <s24d974c.005@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

That could be it, but the latest Jet 3.x SP3 is installed.

/gustav

>>> jim.moss at jlmoss.net 04/01 6:30 pm >>>
Gustav,


This probably isn't the problem but what version of Jet is on the
system?
If < 3.51 then an upgrade to a later rev of Jet might fix the problem.


Jim


From mastercafe at ctv.es  Fri Apr  1 11:50:50 2005
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:50:50 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value
In-Reply-To: <20050401154437.42935.qmail@web20425.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001001c536e3$5838f110$0500a8c0@masterserv>

We are trying to take the value from a field in a form during the writting
from the user.
If we take me.StrField we obtain the last value until go to the next field.

It's possible take the value? 

Thanks

Juan

 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Apr  1 11:59:18 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 18:59:18 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value
In-Reply-To: <001001c536e3$5838f110$0500a8c0@masterserv>
Message-ID: <000401c536e4$86fdf1c0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Juan
It depends on the Event you put the code in. If you put your code in the
AfterUpdate event of the field, for example, you will get the new value.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> MastercafeCTV
> Sent: 01 April 2005 18:51
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value
> 
> 
> We are trying to take the value from a field in a form during 
> the writting from the user. If we take me.StrField we obtain 
> the last value until go to the next field.
> 
> It's possible take the value? 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Juan
> 
>  
> ===========================================
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr  1 11:58:57 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 12:58:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value
In-Reply-To: <001001c536e3$5838f110$0500a8c0@masterserv>
Message-ID: <20050401175854.ENBZ2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm not sure what you're asking for, but here goes. 

1. If you press Ctrl+;, Access will automatically enter the value in the
corresponding field from the last record. 

2. You can assign the current entry as the field's default value -- it will
repeat until you overwrite the value with a new one and then that will
become the default value. If you're looking for this one, I can supply the
code. 

Susan H. 

We are trying to take the value from a field in a form during the writting
from the user.
If we take me.StrField we obtain the last value until go to the next field.

It's possible take the value? 




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  1 12:11:15 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 20:11:15 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value
Message-ID: <s24daaf1.006@cactus.dk>

Hi Juan

Try with

  strTake = Me!StrField.Text

This will work while that textbox has the focus.

/gustav

>>> mastercafe at ctv.es 04/01 7:50 pm >>>
We are trying to take the value from a field in a form during the
writting
from the user.
If we take me.StrField we obtain the last value until go to the next
field.

It's possible take the value? 



From boogieloogie at gmail.com  Fri Apr  1 12:14:39 2005
From: boogieloogie at gmail.com (Boogie Loogie)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:14:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
Message-ID: <3bf43ee90504011014432e4885@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I have been using gmail (www.gmail.com) for awhile now and I must
admit that the service is excellent. They have upped the free account
from 1 gig of storage to 2 gig...WOW.

For using this mailing list I have yet to find something better for
organinzing the messages. If any of you want a freebie account I will
send you an invite. I have 49 left.

email me at boogieloogie at gmail.com

Later

BL


From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Fri Apr  1 12:24:05 2005
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE03ABFE@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

Reason why I avoided GMAIL..

http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Boogie Loogie
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:15 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.


Hi

I have been using gmail (www.gmail.com) for awhile now and I must admit
that the service is excellent. They have upped the free account from 1
gig of storage to 2 gig...WOW.

For using this mailing list I have yet to find something better for
organinzing the messages. If any of you want a freebie account I will
send you an invite. I have 49 left.

email me at boogieloogie at gmail.com

Later

BL
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Apr  1 12:27:31 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:27:31 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687394D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I have all but one of my invites left, so ask if you want one.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Boogie Loogie [mailto:boogieloogie at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:15 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.


Hi

I have been using gmail (www.gmail.com) for awhile now and I must admit
that the service is excellent. They have upped the free account from 1
gig of storage to 2 gig...WOW.

For using this mailing list I have yet to find something better for
organinzing the messages. If any of you want a freebie account I will
send you an invite. I have 49 left.

email me at boogieloogie at gmail.com

Later

BL
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Apr  1 12:40:07 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:40:07 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value
In-Reply-To: <001001c536e3$5838f110$0500a8c0@masterserv>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKCECAFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

.Text

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MastercafeCTV
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value


We are trying to take the value from a field in a form during the writting
from the user.
If we take me.StrField we obtain the last value until go to the next field.

It's possible take the value?

Thanks

Juan


===========================================
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr  1 15:20:59 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:20:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
In-Reply-To: <s24d7a33.001@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <0IEA00651E15QS@l-daemon>

Hi Gustav:

I once tried to run Access 95 on my Windows Server 2003, again don't ask and
everything loaded for a while until all CPU and memory resources were
consumed and then the server crashed. It is more dangerous than many viruses
or Trojans.

I think Access just does not understand the current system capacities. Any
thing larger than 2 GB and down it goes.

My thought on the subject
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 6:43 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory

Hi all

When I try to launch Access 95 (don't ask) on Windows XP it stops at
the splash screen with an "Out of memory" error.
I guess it's the opposite, my 1 GB ram confuses Access, but how to fool
Access 95 to accept or ignore the size of memory?

I have tried creating a PIF file with Windows 95 compatibility mode but
still no go.
Any ideas?

/gustav

PS: This is no April fool ..
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Apr  1 15:39:18 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:39:18 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873950@infoserver01.infostat.local>

So delete your old gmail.  That's what I do.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lavsa, Rich [mailto:Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.


Reason why I avoided GMAIL..

http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Boogie Loogie
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:15 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.


Hi

I have been using gmail (www.gmail.com) for awhile now and I must admit
that the service is excellent. They have upped the free account from 1
gig of storage to 2 gig...WOW.

For using this mailing list I have yet to find something better for
organinzing the messages. If any of you want a freebie account I will
send you an invite. I have 49 left.

email me at boogieloogie at gmail.com

Later

BL
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Apr  1 15:53:04 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:53:04 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2EF9@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Did you miss these comments on the site...

"Google admits that even deleted messages will remain on their system, and
may also be accessible internally at Google, for an indefinite period of
time."

"Google has never been known to delete any of the data they've collected,
since day one."

There's no such thing as a free lunch, especially where marketing people are
involved. :-)

Lambert



> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> Sent:	Friday, April 01, 2005 4:39 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> 
> So delete your old gmail.  That's what I do.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lavsa, Rich [mailto:Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com] 
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:24 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> 
> 
> Reason why I avoided GMAIL..
> 
> http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Boogie Loogie
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:15 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> I have been using gmail (www.gmail.com) for awhile now and I must admit
> that the service is excellent. They have upped the free account from 1
> gig of storage to 2 gig...WOW.
> 
> For using this mailing list I have yet to find something better for
> organinzing the messages. If any of you want a freebie account I will
> send you an invite. I have 49 left.
> 
> email me at boogieloogie at gmail.com
> 
> Later
> 
> BL
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Apr  1 16:28:02 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:28:02 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2EF9@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
References: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2EF9@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a0504011428133dc47e@mail.gmail.com>

>From the Privacy Policy at Gmail:

 
>    - We collect limited account information and store and maintain your 
>    account and email messages on our secure servers. 
>    - We will never rent, sell or share information that personally 
>    identifies you for marketing purposes without your express permission. 
>    - We serve highly relevant ads and other information as part of the 
>    service using our unique content-targeting technology. No human reads your 
>    email to target ads or related information to you without your consent. 
>    - You can update your account information and preferences at any 
>    time. 
> 
>  
The portion that you are worried about from that paranoid site is derived 
info from this statment on the policy 

Because we keep back-up copies of data for the purposes of recovery from 
> errors or system failure, residual copies of email may remain on our systems 
> for some time, even after you have deleted messages from your mailbox or 
> after the termination of your account. Google employees do not access the 
> content of any mailboxes unless you specifically request them to do so (for 
> example, if you are having technical difficulties accessing your account) or 
> if required by law, to maintain our system, or to protect Google or the 
> public.

this statment makes a lot of sense because if they delete your account but 
your data is on backups, it makes sense they won't go into the backups and 
delete your email there. but it also gives you a saftey to be able to go 
back and access an email that you thought might have been lost for ever.


On Apr 1, 2005 1:53 PM, Heenan, Lambert <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com> wrote:
> 
> Did you miss these comments on the site...
> 
> "Google admits that even deleted messages will remain on their system, and
> may also be accessible internally at Google, for an indefinite period of
> time."
> 
> "Google has never been known to delete any of the data they've collected,
> since day one."
> 
> There's no such thing as a free lunch, especially where marketing people 
> are
> involved. :-)
> 
> Lambert
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 4:39 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> >
> > So delete your old gmail. That's what I do.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lavsa, Rich [mailto:Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:24 AM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> >
> >
> > Reason why I avoided GMAIL..
> >
> > http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Boogie Loogie
> > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:15 PM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I have been using gmail (www.gmail.com <http://www.gmail.com>) for 
> awhile now and I must admit
> > that the service is excellent. They have upped the free account from 1
> > gig of storage to 2 gig...WOW.
> >
> > For using this mailing list I have yet to find something better for
> > organinzing the messages. If any of you want a freebie account I will
> > send you an invite. I have 49 left.
> >
> > email me at boogieloogie at gmail.com
> >
> > Later
> >
> > BL
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Apr  1 17:26:34 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 23:26:34 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: microsoft access questions
Message-ID: <BAY103-F6F712FC4BEF4AAEDE044CD2380@phx.gbl>

Marvin,

Last year I rolled out a database in Texas.  When I got to the last machine, 
I was introduced to JAWS.  I spent the next 2 days and nights modifying 
every piece of functionality that required the mouse.  It was very 
challenging with the 2 day deadline, but I learned a lot of lessons on that 
project.

I believe Robert and Roz answered you questions.  I just wanted to comment 
on the JAWS program.  I've never developed a db using JAWS, just developed 
one for someone using JAWS.  If you get caught up in any 
functionality/usability issues with the forms of your app, I'd be happy to 
share some of the tricks I learned.

Good luck with your database assignment.

Mark A. Matte



>From: "Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: marvkin at hotmail.com
>CC: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Re: microsoft access questions
>Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:36:23 -0600
>
>Marvin,
>
>1.  If it is a primary key, then it will not allow a 1 multiple times.  
>Just add a column and make it an autonumber data type, remove the current 
>column, then rename the new column to be the same as the column you 
>removed.
>
>2.  Why are you trying to "trick" referential integrity?  Your 
>relationships a not correct according to data type, or you would not get 
>the error you are getting.  My guess is that you also do not really have 
>primary keys establishes, reference number 1 above.  And you cannot cascade 
>or update with out a true primary key.
>
>3.  Shift and the arrow keys.
>
>Robert
>
>At 12:08 AM 4/1/2005 -0600, you wrote:
>>Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:51:36 +1000
>>From: "marvin hunkin" <marvkin at hotmail.com>
>>Subject: [AccessD] microsoft access questions
>>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Message-ID: <BAY102-DAV15EE448AA3D6BF3D9798E3AB470 at phx.gbl>
>>
>>hi.
>>doing a database assignment for my access class.
>>i am a blind student at my college in australia.
>>using ms access 2000, windows 2000, and using the jaws screen reading
>>software and using version 5.10 for more information about jaws for 
>>windows
>>go to http://www.freedomscientific.com
>>now have had several problems.
>>now if any one can give me some answers on how to fix the problems i am
>>having.
>>1. one of my queeries which i built from a table and imported from excel.
>>it  has the primary key field set to number.
>>but instead of giving me sequential numbers like 1.2,3, it only says 
>>1,1,1,
>>etc.
>>should i try to set the data type back to autom number? will this fix this
>>problem?
>>also got the same problem with my report, it just keeps saying the id 1, 
>>for
>>each record. it should say id 2. id3, etc.
>>how do i fix this?
>>2. when i set up my relationships to the id fields in my tables in access 
>>,
>>and try to tick the referential integrity, cascade update records, update
>>deleted records, and try to click on create, it gives me a message saying
>>the database could not lock the table, or that the data fields are not the
>>same type, as they are all data type of number, and set to long integer.
>>3. i created several reports and sub report in collumna format.
>>how do i resize the report and sub report using the keyboard? jaws will 
>>not
>>let me use the mouse, or reads very erraticly. is there any third party
>>software that will allow me to resize reports and sub reports in access
>>2000?
>>if any one can help me, then e-mail  me privately off list.
>>cheers Marvin.
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr  1 17:59:58 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 09:59:58 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Zipping files in "subfolders" through Access
In-Reply-To: <20050401154437.42935.qmail@web20425.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <424E6D1E.12837.3241CFB4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 1 Apr 2005 at 7:44, Lonnie Johnson wrote:

> I've used the following to zip files from a particualar location. It
> works fine. Now I want to use it on a folder where all the files are in
> subfolders.
...
>  
> 'Zipping proceess
> Call Shell(strAppName & " -A " & """" & strZipFile & """" & " " & """" & strFileLoc & strTargetFiles(i) & """", 1)

You use "-r"

-r	Recurse into subfolders (include subfolders).  This option requires the -p or -P option.

-p|P	Store folder names.  A lower case p stores only the names of folders 
recursed (subfolders included) via the -r option, while an upper case P 
stores all folder information specified on the command line.  



-- 
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  1 23:05:17 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 21:05:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Zipping files in "subfolders" through Access
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050402050517.43254.qmail@web20428.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks Stuart,
 
The Shell statement I used below was borrowed. Where do I put the -r or p?

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
On 1 Apr 2005 at 7:44, Lonnie Johnson wrote:

> I've used the following to zip files from a particualar location. It
> works fine. Now I want to use it on a folder where all the files are in
> subfolders.
...
> 
> 'Zipping proceess
> Call Shell(strAppName & " -A " & """" & strZipFile & """" & " " & """" & strFileLoc & strTargetFiles(i) & """", 1)

You use "-r"

-r Recurse into subfolders (include subfolders). This option requires the -p or -P option.

-p|P Store folder names. A lower case p stores only the names of folders 
recursed (subfolders included) via the -r option, while an upper case P 
stores all folder information specified on the command line. 



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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Apr  2 02:39:31 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 18:39:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Zipping files in "subfolders" through Access
In-Reply-To: <20050402050517.43254.qmail@web20428.mail.yahoo.com>
References: 6667
Message-ID: <424EE6E3.30752.478BEB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 1 Apr 2005 at 21:05, Lonnie Johnson wrote:

> Thanks Stuart,
>  
> The Shell statement I used below was borrowed. Where do I put the -r or p?
> 

You need the -r AND either -p or -P

You put all options before the file name so:

Call Shell(strAppName & " -A -r -P " & """" & strZipFile & """" & " " & 
"""" & strFileLoc & strTargetFiles(i) & """", 1)

or 

Call Shell(strAppName & " -A -r -p " & """" & strZipFile & """" & " " & 
"""" & strFileLoc & strTargetFiles(i) & """", 1)

The first one will store the full paths to all the files.
The second one will just store relative paths based on strFileLoc.




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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Sat Apr  2 06:07:18 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 04:07:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Zipping files in "subfolders" through Access
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050402120718.75966.qmail@web20421.mail.yahoo.com>

Thank you ever so much Mr McLachlan. I have never had much use of the command line switches to that degree before. You help has been exactly what I have been looking for. Is there a list or reference source that explains these switches, how to use them and the positions they play in the command line.
 
Again thank you very much. I applaud you. 

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
On 1 Apr 2005 at 21:05, Lonnie Johnson wrote:

> Thanks Stuart,
> 
> The Shell statement I used below was borrowed. Where do I put the -r or p?
> 

You need the -r AND either -p or -P

You put all options before the file name so:

Call Shell(strAppName & " -A -r -P " & """" & strZipFile & """" & " " & 
"""" & strFileLoc & strTargetFiles(i) & """", 1)

or 

Call Shell(strAppName & " -A -r -p " & """" & strZipFile & """" & " " & 
"""" & strFileLoc & strTargetFiles(i) & """", 1)

The first one will store the full paths to all the files.
The second one will just store relative paths based on strFileLoc.




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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Apr  2 06:49:31 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:49:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Zipping files in "subfolders" through Access
In-Reply-To: <20050402120718.75966.qmail@web20421.mail.yahoo.com>
References: 6667
Message-ID: <424F217B.9796.12C6FFC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 2 Apr 2005 at 4:07, Lonnie Johnson wrote:

> Thank you ever so much Mr McLachlan. I have never had much use of the command line switches to
> that degree before. You help has been exactly what I have been looking for. Is there a list or
> reference source that explains these switches, how to use them and the positions they play in
> the command line.

Look for a help file called WZCLINE.HLP in your Winzip directory.

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From boogieloogie at gmail.com  Sat Apr  2 10:54:37 2005
From: boogieloogie at gmail.com (Boogie Loogie)
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 12:54:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
In-Reply-To: <b874372a0504011428133dc47e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2EF9@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
	<b874372a0504011428133dc47e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3bf43ee9050402085471881d6c@mail.gmail.com>

paranois will self-destroy ya

On Apr 1, 2005 6:28 PM, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:
> >From the Privacy Policy at Gmail:
> 
> >    - We collect limited account information and store and maintain your
> >    account and email messages on our secure servers.
> >    - We will never rent, sell or share information that personally
> >    identifies you for marketing purposes without your express permission.
> >    - We serve highly relevant ads and other information as part of the
> >    service using our unique content-targeting technology. No human reads your
> >    email to target ads or related information to you without your consent.
> >    - You can update your account information and preferences at any
> >    time.
> >
> >
> The portion that you are worried about from that paranoid site is derived
> info from this statment on the policy
> 
> Because we keep back-up copies of data for the purposes of recovery from
> > errors or system failure, residual copies of email may remain on our systems
> > for some time, even after you have deleted messages from your mailbox or
> > after the termination of your account. Google employees do not access the
> > content of any mailboxes unless you specifically request them to do so (for
> > example, if you are having technical difficulties accessing your account) or
> > if required by law, to maintain our system, or to protect Google or the
> > public.
> 
> this statment makes a lot of sense because if they delete your account but
> your data is on backups, it makes sense they won't go into the backups and
> delete your email there. but it also gives you a saftey to be able to go
> back and access an email that you thought might have been lost for ever.
> 
> 
> On Apr 1, 2005 1:53 PM, Heenan, Lambert <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com> wrote:
> >
> > Did you miss these comments on the site...
> >
> > "Google admits that even deleted messages will remain on their system, and
> > may also be accessible internally at Google, for an indefinite period of
> > time."
> >
> > "Google has never been known to delete any of the data they've collected,
> > since day one."
> >
> > There's no such thing as a free lunch, especially where marketing people
> > are
> > involved. :-)
> >
> > Lambert
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 4:39 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> > >
> > > So delete your old gmail. That's what I do.
> > >
> > > Charlotte Foust
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Lavsa, Rich [mailto:Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:24 AM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> > >
> > >
> > > Reason why I avoided GMAIL..
> > >
> > > http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Boogie Loogie
> > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:15 PM
> > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I have been using gmail (www.gmail.com <http://www.gmail.com>) for
> > awhile now and I must admit
> > > that the service is excellent. They have upped the free account from 1
> > > gig of storage to 2 gig...WOW.
> > >
> > > For using this mailing list I have yet to find something better for
> > > organinzing the messages. If any of you want a freebie account I will
> > > send you an invite. I have 49 left.
> > >
> > > email me at boogieloogie at gmail.com
> > >
> > > Later
> > >
> > > BL
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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Sat Apr  2 16:30:50 2005
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 00:30:50 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKCECAFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <000001c537d3$9fe63ae0$0500a8c0@masterserv>

Thats exact... This is that i was looking for.
We wanted refresh a subform while you are typing on the main form field.
Put this on KEYPRESS event
Campo is a Combo with all names of fields and its description. The answer is
very good and fine.

Dim TMPBuscar as string
TMPBuscar = Me.buscar.Text
Me.fl_ClientesSubform.Form.RecordSource = "Select * from [BASE CLIENTES]
where [" & campo.Column(1) & "] like '" & TMPBuscar & "'"
Me.fl_ClientesSubform.Requery

Thanks


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Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value


We are trying to take the value from a field in a form during the writting
from the user. If we take me.StrField we obtain the last value until go to
the next field.

It's possible take the value?

Thanks

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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Sat Apr  2 18:42:40 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 16:42:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Zipping files in "subfolders" through Access
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Message-ID: <20050403004240.10478.qmail@web20428.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks I have it and it is working fine. Thanks again.

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:On 2 Apr 2005 at 4:07, Lonnie Johnson wrote:

> Thank you ever so much Mr McLachlan. I have never had much use of the command line switches to
> that degree before. You help has been exactly what I have been looking for. Is there a list or
> reference source that explains these switches, how to use them and the positions they play in
> the command line.

Look for a help file called WZCLINE.HLP in your Winzip directory.

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Apr  3 17:04:27 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 15:04:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Microsoft access questions
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F6F712FC4BEF4AAEDE044CD2380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200504032204.j33M4Ji07313@databaseadvisors.com>

Mark,

What is Jaws

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:27 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: microsoft access questions

Marvin,

Last year I rolled out a database in Texas.  When I got to the last machine,

I was introduced to JAWS ?



From erbachs at gmail.com  Sun Apr  3 19:26:07 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:26:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Group,

A friend who's pretty sharp on computers (PHP development and a fair
amount of VB.NET) asked me to help him figure out a way to handle his
home inventory. He has LPs, Books, video cassettes, etc., half a dozen
different categories in all of things he wants to record in tables. So
far he's made an individual collection table for each type of item:
Books, LPs, Videos, etc.

His question was how to make a master table that had common
information in it -- purchase date, purchase price, location in house,
and category. He was also trying to figure out a way to have a big
master form, perhaps with a tab object, and subforms for all the
tables containing his collections.

I admit that I was a bit stumped. It's easy enough to determine that
the master table should have, say, an AutoNumber key field for each
item in his entire home inventory and that the individual item tables
would link to the master through a foreign key or simply with a Long
Integer field containing the Master key. But there would be a
one-to-one link between the master and the collection tables.

But what he'd like to do is see multiple rows for each of his
collection items at the same time. This implies that the subforms
would NOT be linked to the master. If they WERE linked to the master,
then only ONE item from ONE collection table would show up.

Have you lot ever tried something like this? His notion is that if the
Master table contains the location for each item then he can easily
query the master to find all the items in, say, the upstairs closet.
But then creating a report or a query might be a struggle since he
could conceivably have items from six different collections in that
closet...or only four of the collections.

I think you get the drift. Each collection has enough unique
information that keeping the items in separate tables makes sense, but
pulling all the information together to make an inventory valuation
might be a chore. Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr  3 21:37:25 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:37:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <015201c538bf$3cf22ba0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Steve:

Not really responsive but I have to question why he wants to do this at all? 
Unless it's just a busman's holiday, why not just create a list of his 
albums, a list of his books, a list of his cassettes in a word doc print it 
out and be done.  Then he'd know everything he needs by looking at the 
lists, no?

Rocky


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 5:26 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem


> Dear Group,
>
> A friend who's pretty sharp on computers (PHP development and a fair
> amount of VB.NET) asked me to help him figure out a way to handle his
> home inventory. He has LPs, Books, video cassettes, etc., half a dozen
> different categories in all of things he wants to record in tables. So
> far he's made an individual collection table for each type of item:
> Books, LPs, Videos, etc.
>
> His question was how to make a master table that had common
> information in it -- purchase date, purchase price, location in house,
> and category. He was also trying to figure out a way to have a big
> master form, perhaps with a tab object, and subforms for all the
> tables containing his collections.
>
> I admit that I was a bit stumped. It's easy enough to determine that
> the master table should have, say, an AutoNumber key field for each
> item in his entire home inventory and that the individual item tables
> would link to the master through a foreign key or simply with a Long
> Integer field containing the Master key. But there would be a
> one-to-one link between the master and the collection tables.
>
> But what he'd like to do is see multiple rows for each of his
> collection items at the same time. This implies that the subforms
> would NOT be linked to the master. If they WERE linked to the master,
> then only ONE item from ONE collection table would show up.
>
> Have you lot ever tried something like this? His notion is that if the
> Master table contains the location for each item then he can easily
> query the master to find all the items in, say, the upstairs closet.
> But then creating a report or a query might be a struggle since he
> could conceivably have items from six different collections in that
> closet...or only four of the collections.
>
> I think you get the drift. Each collection has enough unique
> information that keeping the items in separate tables makes sense, but
> pulling all the information together to make an inventory valuation
> might be a chore. Any ideas?
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Scientific Marketing
> Neenah, WI
> www.swerbach.com
> Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Sun Apr  3 21:50:01 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:50:01 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050404144510.03439a30@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

AXP

One of my users has discovered that by pressing Ctrl-A this will select all 
records in a form.  Then he can copy, open up Excel and paste all the 
records into a spreadsheet.  However, because of the sensitive nature of 
the data, Management do not want the full database to be available this way.

I have found out how to disable Ctrl-A using autokeys so that all records 
cannot be selected.  I have also removed from my custom menu the option to 
Select all records.

There is still the problem of manually selecting all records with the 
mouse, then copying them to the clipboard.  I don't want to disable Ctrl-C 
because it is useful elsewhere in the programme.  Is there a way to check 
if records are selected (any number of records - not just all of them)?  If 
I could find out that, then if records were selected I could cancel out the 
copy, but if only text was selected I could alow the copy to proceed.

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348 



From JHewson at karta.com  Sun Apr  3 21:56:31 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 21:56:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02859D96@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Steve,
What you need are junction tables.  Tables that hold PKs from different tables.
I've done this for several different databases.
I'm currently working on one for pastoral musicians to keep track of their music.
Songs, composers (with multiple songs), who arranged the piece (could be composer or someone else), instruments (single or multiple), copyright holders and addresses.  A song could be sheet, book, cd, octavo or combination.  A song could be used for one or more liturgical season (e.g. Tridiuum and Easter).  I have seen two songs with the same title, different composers.  What is the vocal arrangement (choir, duet, quartet, etc.) if any.
 
In your sample below, you had a closet with several different collections.  Let's use the family room, hall closet and guest room.  PK for these three rooms are 1, 2, and respectively.
The second collection is for videos - Video 1, Video 2 and Video 3.
Third collection is for Music CDs - CD 1, CD 2, and CD3.
 
I typically keep junction tables to two columns (one for each table) to allow a multiple combinations between the them.
 
By using a junction table the PKs of four tables become FKs.
 
RmID   MusicID
1             2         
2             1       
3             3         
1             1            
 
RmID    VidioID
1             1         
2             3       
3             2         
2             1  
 
RmID     CDID
1             2         
2             1       
3             3         
1             1  
 
Using junction tables, you can create a reports.
For example, you want a report by room of everything that's in the rooms. 
Using the Junction table you can pull the room with ID 1 into one report.
The common thread in your example are the rooms.  
 
HTH
Jim

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Steve Erbach
Sent: Sun 4/3/2005 7:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem



Dear Group,

A friend who's pretty sharp on computers (PHP development and a fair
amount of VB.NET) asked me to help him figure out a way to handle his
home inventory. He has LPs, Books, video cassettes, etc., half a dozen
different categories in all of things he wants to record in tables. So
far he's made an individual collection table for each type of item:
Books, LPs, Videos, etc.

His question was how to make a master table that had common
information in it -- purchase date, purchase price, location in house,
and category. He was also trying to figure out a way to have a big
master form, perhaps with a tab object, and subforms for all the
tables containing his collections.

I admit that I was a bit stumped. It's easy enough to determine that
the master table should have, say, an AutoNumber key field for each
item in his entire home inventory and that the individual item tables
would link to the master through a foreign key or simply with a Long
Integer field containing the Master key. But there would be a
one-to-one link between the master and the collection tables.

But what he'd like to do is see multiple rows for each of his
collection items at the same time. This implies that the subforms
would NOT be linked to the master. If they WERE linked to the master,
then only ONE item from ONE collection table would show up.

Have you lot ever tried something like this? His notion is that if the
Master table contains the location for each item then he can easily
query the master to find all the items in, say, the upstairs closet.
But then creating a report or a query might be a struggle since he
could conceivably have items from six different collections in that
closet...or only four of the collections.

I think you get the drift. Each collection has enough unique
information that keeping the items in separate tables makes sense, but
pulling all the information together to make an inventory valuation
might be a chore. Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Apr  3 22:03:54 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:03:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: disabling keys on the keyboard
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873940@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200504040303.j3433ii12366@databaseadvisors.com>

ROFL

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: disabling keys on the keyboard

Have you tried physically removing the key?  If you're entrusting it to
a 4-year-old, then a little more damage won't make any difference.
<wink>

Charlotte Foust



From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Sun Apr  3 23:08:23 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:38:23 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code
References: <200504010356875.SM04532@ORSLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <00ab01c538cc$efe80010$601865cb@winxp>

Marcel,

    You should be able to obtain the required information directly from the modules collection.

    Sample sub-routine given below, will list all lines (along with names of respective modules) satisfying your criteria, in the immediate window. For your specific case, the following statement, calling this subroutine, will do the needful.
    P_GetMatchingCodeLines "MsgBox"

    Important - You have to set reference to Microsoft Visual Basic For Applications Extensibility 5.3

A.D.Tejpal
--------------

===================================
Public Sub P_GetMatchingCodeLines(ByVal _
                                            MatchString As String)
    ' This needs reference to Microsoft Visual Basic
    ' For Applications Extensibility 5.3
    Dim mdc As Modules, md As Module
    Dim Cnt As Long, Lct As Long, Txt As String
    Dim DecLines As Long, ProcStLine As Long
    Dim ModName As String, PrName As String
    Dim ProcLine As Long
    
    Set mdc = Application.Modules
    ' Loop through all the modules in this collection
    For Cnt = 0 To mdc.Count - 1
        Set md = mdc(Cnt)
        ' Get name of module
        ModName = md.Name
        ' Get number of lines in declaration portion
        DecLines = md.CountOfDeclarationLines
        ' Loop through all the lines in this module
        For Lct = 1 To md.CountOfLines
            ' Get the contents of line Lct
            Txt = md.Lines(Lct, 1)
            If InStr(Txt, MatchString) > 0 Then
                If md.Type = acStandardModule _
                                            Or InStr(ModName, _
                                            "Form_") > 0 Then    ' (A)
                    If Lct > DecLines Then                      ' (B)
                        ' Get name of procedure
                        ' (in which, line Lct is contained)
                        PrName = md.ProcOfLine(Lct, _
                                            vbext_pk_Proc)
                        ' Get starting Line No for this procedure
                        ProcStLine = md.ProcBodyLine(PrName, _
                                            vbext_pk_Proc)        ' (C)
                        ' Compute Line number as counted
                        ' from start of procedure
                        ProcLine = Lct - ProcStLine + 1
                    Else
                        PrName = "Declaration Sec"
                        ProcStLine = 1
                        ProcLine = Lct
                    End If
                Else
                    PrName = "Class"
                    ProcStLine = 1
                    ProcLine = Lct
                End If
                Debug.Print "Mod - " & ModName & ",  Proc - " & _
                            PrName & ",  Line(ProcLine) - " & _
                            Lct & "(" & ProcLine & ")"
                Debug.Print Space(6) & Trim(Txt)
            End If
        Next
    Next
    
    Set md = Nothing
    Set mdc = Nothing
    
    ' Note - (A) & (B) are needed so as to ensure that there is
    '              no mismatch of argument regarding assumed type
    '              of procedure ()
    '              (C) The value returned by md.ProcBodyLine() is
    '              more dependable as it gives the line number where
    '              the procedure actually starts. On the other hand,
    '              md.ProcStartLine() returns the first line after end
    '              of prev procedure. This can be misleading when
    '              there are one or more blank lines between
    '              adjacent procedures.
End Sub
===================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marcel Vreuls 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 14:25
  Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code


  Dear Group,

  Just a quick question. Does someone know how I can collect all rows in vbacode where the function msgbox is stated and put this in the debug window or just drop in a file.

  Thanks in advance,

  Marcel


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr  3 23:22:26 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 21:22:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor
Message-ID: <01c201c538cd$e82d9640$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

The Sleep Advisor, a joint venture between myself and Dr. Rubin Naiman, a recognized expert in the field of sleep disorders, is entering its next phase of beta testing.  The program is an expert system which identifies sleep disorders and give detailed remedies and recommendations for improving your sleep health.

We need to collect several hundred tests to verify that the diagnostic engine is working correctly.  Several list members have already volunteered as test subjects and we're very grateful for their participation.

The program is available now as a run-time download from a web site. It's about 46MB so you need either broadband or patience.

You can read about Dr. Rubin Naiman at http://www.drnaiman.com/ and the program at http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php.

We would be very appreciative of anyone who would like to complete the assessment especially if you think you have a sleep problem or have been previously diagnosed with one.  We think many will find the report to be of great value.  It has already proven helpful to many.

If you have any questions please write or call me.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From viner at EUnet.yu  Mon Apr  4 01:58:14 2005
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:58:14 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Question :-)
Message-ID: <017901c538e3$ed87aa70$0100a8c0@RazvojErvin>

Three witches watch three Swatch watches. Which witch watch which Swatch
watch?



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Apr  4 03:29:07 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:29:07 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <s2511712.037@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve

Has he considered the time needed to "record" these things??

I once listed all my vinyl records in a nice database as I planned to
sell them as a collection. Quickly I realized the amount of typing work
and persuaded (bought) my daughter to do this for sweet daddy. She did
but I wasn't proud.

So your friend should consider if it wasn't a better idea to
listen/watch/read items from his collection rather than spending a vast
amount of time recording it. Unless, of course, he has 50 items of each
in which case - as suggested - write a list in Word.

Oh, I didn't sell the records ...

/gustav

>>> erbachs at gmail.com 04/04 2:26 am >>>

He has LPs, Books, video cassettes, etc., half a dozen
different categories in all of things he wants to record in tables.



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr  4 07:12:31 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 05:12:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0IEF0033O8KROR@l-daemon>

Hi Steve:

Have you tried looking into the use of a flexgrid? If you have access to VB6
or the like, the flexgrid can be used by referencing the FlexGrid control
'msflxgrd.ocx', the Hierarchical FlexGrid control 'mshflxgd.ocx' or/with the
ADO Shape control 'msadodc.ocx' (available through ADO 2.0 and up). 

I have only had to reference the Hierarchical FlexGrid once for a client
when the requirement was for viewing data in various groupings depending on
which column, from the list presented that was selected. The grid would
re-form with each click. The control names might be slightly dated (dlls
might be used now) as the application was created at least five years ago
and it has not required changing in these areas.

See Microsoft reference to the flex controls at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vbcon98/htm
l/vbconhflexgridcontrol.asp (watch for wrap)

Or a sample ADO shape command being used:
http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=6512&lng
WId=4

Without going into great detail...

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 5:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem

Dear Group,

A friend who's pretty sharp on computers (PHP development and a fair
amount of VB.NET) asked me to help him figure out a way to handle his
home inventory. He has LPs, Books, video cassettes, etc., half a dozen
different categories in all of things he wants to record in tables. So
far he's made an individual collection table for each type of item:
Books, LPs, Videos, etc.

His question was how to make a master table that had common
information in it -- purchase date, purchase price, location in house,
and category. He was also trying to figure out a way to have a big
master form, perhaps with a tab object, and subforms for all the
tables containing his collections.

I admit that I was a bit stumped. It's easy enough to determine that
the master table should have, say, an AutoNumber key field for each
item in his entire home inventory and that the individual item tables
would link to the master through a foreign key or simply with a Long
Integer field containing the Master key. But there would be a
one-to-one link between the master and the collection tables.

But what he'd like to do is see multiple rows for each of his
collection items at the same time. This implies that the subforms
would NOT be linked to the master. If they WERE linked to the master,
then only ONE item from ONE collection table would show up.

Have you lot ever tried something like this? His notion is that if the
Master table contains the location for each item then he can easily
query the master to find all the items in, say, the upstairs closet.
But then creating a report or a query might be a struggle since he
could conceivably have items from six different collections in that
closet...or only four of the collections.

I think you get the drift. Each collection has enough unique
information that keeping the items in separate tables makes sense, but
pulling all the information together to make an inventory valuation
might be a chore. Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Mon Apr  4 07:55:55 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:55:55 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Datasheet view validation
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1EC@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I have a form that has as its record source a query that joins two tables
together in a one-to-many relationship (outer join). I am displaying this
form as a datasheet.
The query is designed so that there will never be any records that match on
the "many" side when it is first opened. The query only displays two
columns. One from the "one" side and one from the "many" side.
As I have it now, a user could close the form without entering data into the
field from the "many" side, thus not creating a record on the "many" side.

How can I verify that the user has entered data in the field from the "many"
side for every record that is displayed? I don't want to restrict the row
order in which they enter data but I do want to make sure that the field for
each row is filled in before they close the form.

Thanks!
JR




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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr  4 08:03:00 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:03:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Datasheet view validation
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1EC@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <20050404130305.YOQX2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, the easiest way -- which might not be the best way for you -- would be
to simply make that field Required at the table level. If the value truly is
required when you enter the record, this works OK and is a simple solution. 

Susan H. 

Hi All,

I have a form that has as its record source a query that joins two tables
together in a one-to-many relationship (outer join). I am displaying this
form as a datasheet.
The query is designed so that there will never be any records that match on
the "many" side when it is first opened. The query only displays two
columns. One from the "one" side and one from the "many" side.
As I have it now, a user could close the form without entering data into the
field from the "many" side, thus not creating a record on the "many" side.

How can I verify that the user has entered data in the field from the "many"
side for every record that is displayed? I don't want to restrict the row
order in which they enter data but I do want to make sure that the field for
each row is filled in before they close the form.

Thanks!
JR




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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Apr  4 08:28:12 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 06:28:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor
In-Reply-To: <01c201c538cd$e82d9640$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <200504041328.j34DS9i18651@databaseadvisors.com>

Do you need me to do it again?

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
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Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 9:22 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor

Dear List:

The Sleep Advisor, a joint venture between myself and Dr. Rubin Naiman, a
recognized expert in the field of sleep disorders, is entering its next
phase of beta testing.  The program is an expert system which identifies
sleep disorders and give detailed remedies and recommendations for improving
your sleep health.

We need to collect several hundred tests to verify that the diagnostic
engine is working correctly.  Several list members have already volunteered
as test subjects and we're very grateful for their participation.

The program is available now as a run-time download from a web site. It's
about 46MB so you need either broadband or patience.

You can read about Dr. Rubin Naiman at http://www.drnaiman.com/ and the
program at http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php.

We would be very appreciative of anyone who would like to complete the
assessment especially if you think you have a sleep problem or have been
previously diagnosed with one.  We think many will find the report to be of
great value.  It has already proven helpful to many.

If you have any questions please write or call me.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Mon Apr  4 09:01:23 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:01:23 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Query wierdness
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1ED@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,
Access 2000 all SPs

I create a query that is as follows:

SELECT tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder, tblSOAttributes.OpNum, 
tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum, tblSOAttributes.Attribute, 
IIF(tblSOAttributes.Device2 Is Null, tblSOAttributes.Device1, 
tblSOAttributes.Device1 & " / " & tblSOAttributes.Device2) AS Device, 
T1.NumPart, T1.Measurement
FROM tblSOAttributes LEFT JOIN 
(SELECT * FROM tblMeasurements 
WHERE NumPart = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtNumPart]) AS T1 
ON (tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum = T1.AttributeNum) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.OpNum = T1.OpNum) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = T1.SONumber)
WHERE 
tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtSONum] 
AND tblSOAttributes.OpNum = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtOpNum] 
AND ([Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtInProcess] = 1 OR 
tblSOAttributes.Inprocess = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtInProcess])
ORDER BY tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum;

For the most part the query works great.
But when Access saves the query, it saves it as:

SELECT tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder, tblSOAttributes.OpNum, 
tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum, tblSOAttributes.Attribute, 
IIF(tblSOAttributes.Device2 Is Null, tblSOAttributes.Device1, 
tblSOAttributes.Device1 & " / " & tblSOAttributes.Device2) AS Device, 
T1.NumPart, T1.Measurement
FROM tblSOAttributes LEFT JOIN 
[SELECT * FROM tblMeasurements 
WHERE NumPart = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtNumPart]]. AS T1
ON (tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = T1.SONumber) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.OpNum = T1.OpNum) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum = T1.AttributeNum)
WHERE 
tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtSONum] 
AND tblSOAttributes.OpNum = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtOpNum] 
AND ([Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtInProcess] = 1 OR 
tblSOAttributes.Inprocess = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtInProcess])
ORDER BY tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum;

Notice that the parentheses around the sub query were replaced with brackets
and there is a period at the end of the sub query, before AS.
Is this normal?
Normally I wouldn't care but I the query started yelling at me about a
syntax error near the from clause and I could even open the query in design
view to adjust any thing. It would show the query, display the
aforementioned error, I would click ok and it would close the query design
window. I had to delete the query and rewrite it!

JR 




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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  4 09:32:31 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 07:32:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
Message-ID: <004e01c53923$22cd84e0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the clients?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Mon Apr  4 09:43:11 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:43:11 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Datasheet view validation
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1EE@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks for the reply Susan!
Unfortunately, when I do this, it does not force the user to enter data into
the field. Because of the join I described below, the "required field"
requirement would only work if the user actually entered data in the field
that had the "required field" setting in the first place.

Any other ideas?

Thanks!
JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:03 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Datasheet view validation

Well, the easiest way -- which might not be the best way for you -- would be
to simply make that field Required at the table level. If the value truly is
required when you enter the record, this works OK and is a simple solution.

Susan H.

Hi All,

I have a form that has as its record source a query that joins two tables
together in a one-to-many relationship (outer join). I am displaying this
form as a datasheet.
The query is designed so that there will never be any records that match on
the "many" side when it is first opened. The query only displays two
columns. One from the "one" side and one from the "many" side.
As I have it now, a user could close the form without entering data into the
field from the "many" side, thus not creating a record on the "many" side.

How can I verify that the user has entered data in the field from the "many"
side for every record that is displayed? I don't want to restrict the row
order in which they enter data but I do want to make sure that the field for
each row is filled in before they close the form.

Thanks!
JR




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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Apr  4 09:44:56 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:44:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B598E@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Don't see why not.

Linux just uses SMB file sharing like other OS's... 

Erwin


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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:33 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?

Dear List:

Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the
clients?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From marcus at tsstech.com  Mon Apr  4 10:25:57 2005
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:25:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D01BE0AE6@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

Yes you can. I've been doing this for nearly two years.

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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:33 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?

Dear List:

Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the
clients?

MTIA

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http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr  4 10:36:38 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:36:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Query wierdness
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899E9D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The square brackets and period are actually the correct puntuation for
the virtual table you're creating with the subquery, it's just that the
Access 2000 query engine gets itself confused.  If you create the query
and don't reopen it, it should continue to work.  If you do have to open
it in SQL view, replace the square brackets and period with a pair of
parens and see if that quiets Access down.  They'll still be converted
behind the scenes, but it might save you having to rewrite the whole
query.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Query wierdness


Hi All,
Access 2000 all SPs

I create a query that is as follows:

SELECT tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder, tblSOAttributes.OpNum, 
tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum, tblSOAttributes.Attribute, 
IIF(tblSOAttributes.Device2 Is Null, tblSOAttributes.Device1, 
tblSOAttributes.Device1 & " / " & tblSOAttributes.Device2) AS Device, 
T1.NumPart, T1.Measurement
FROM tblSOAttributes LEFT JOIN 
(SELECT * FROM tblMeasurements 
WHERE NumPart = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtNumPart]) AS T1

ON (tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum = T1.AttributeNum) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.OpNum = T1.OpNum) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = T1.SONumber)
WHERE 
tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtSONum] 
AND tblSOAttributes.OpNum = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtOpNum] 
AND ([Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtInProcess] = 1 OR 
tblSOAttributes.Inprocess = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtInProcess])
ORDER BY tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum;

For the most part the query works great.
But when Access saves the query, it saves it as:

SELECT tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder, tblSOAttributes.OpNum, 
tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum, tblSOAttributes.Attribute, 
IIF(tblSOAttributes.Device2 Is Null, tblSOAttributes.Device1, 
tblSOAttributes.Device1 & " / " & tblSOAttributes.Device2) AS Device, 
T1.NumPart, T1.Measurement
FROM tblSOAttributes LEFT JOIN 
[SELECT * FROM tblMeasurements 
WHERE NumPart = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtNumPart]]. AS
T1 ON (tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = T1.SONumber) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.OpNum = T1.OpNum) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum = T1.AttributeNum)
WHERE 
tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtSONum] 
AND tblSOAttributes.OpNum = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtOpNum] 
AND ([Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtInProcess] = 1 OR 
tblSOAttributes.Inprocess = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtInProcess])
ORDER BY tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum;

Notice that the parentheses around the sub query were replaced with
brackets and there is a period at the end of the sub query, before AS.
Is this normal? Normally I wouldn't care but I the query started yelling
at me about a syntax error near the from clause and I could even open
the query in design view to adjust any thing. It would show the query,
display the aforementioned error, I would click ok and it would close
the query design window. I had to delete the query and rewrite it!

JR 




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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  4 10:44:59 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:44:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor
References: <200504041328.j34DS9i18651@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <00b101c5392d$42590910$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Joe:

If you don't mind we would greatly appreciate your doing the Sleep Advisor 
again.  We made a lot of changes in the way the questions are worded and in 
the output (a bit shorter and more concise in many places, although the 
report is still quite detailed; more accurate, too, we hope).

So we'd be interested in your reaction to the inputs and the outputs.  Also, 
since you're a developer, you can tell me how the installation process 
goes - this is a run-time you'll be downloading.

So, please give it a go and, when you've finished, don't forget to attach 
the two txt files to an email and send them in.  We'll send you back a pdf 
of your report.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:28 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor


> Do you need me to do it again?
>
> Joe Hecht
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 28g
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 9:22 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor
>
> Dear List:
>
> The Sleep Advisor, a joint venture between myself and Dr. Rubin Naiman, a
> recognized expert in the field of sleep disorders, is entering its next
> phase of beta testing.  The program is an expert system which identifies
> sleep disorders and give detailed remedies and recommendations for 
> improving
> your sleep health.
>
> We need to collect several hundred tests to verify that the diagnostic
> engine is working correctly.  Several list members have already 
> volunteered
> as test subjects and we're very grateful for their participation.
>
> The program is available now as a run-time download from a web site. It's
> about 46MB so you need either broadband or patience.
>
> You can read about Dr. Rubin Naiman at http://www.drnaiman.com/ and the
> program at http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php.
>
> We would be very appreciative of anyone who would like to complete the
> assessment especially if you think you have a sleep problem or have been
> previously diagnosed with one.  We think many will find the report to be 
> of
> great value.  It has already proven helpful to many.
>
> If you have any questions please write or call me.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  4 10:52:14 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:52:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
References: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D01BE0AE6@2003exchg.TSS.AD>
Message-ID: <010d01c5392e$454d4d60$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Scott and Erwin:

Thanks for you replies.  There's no end of stuff to know, is there?

Rocky

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From: "Scott Marcus" <marcus at tsstech.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?


> Yes you can. I've been doing this for nearly two years.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:33 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
>
> Dear List:
>
> Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the
> clients?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Mon Apr  4 11:56:07 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 22:26:07 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Datasheet view validation
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1EC@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <008101c53937$6492e460$851865cb@winxp>

JR,

    Your objective can be met by placing the code block given below, in form's Unload event. FldRight is the name of field on many side of the join.

    An attempt to close the form while field FldRight is yet to be filled up in any of the records, will result in a message box stating the number of such entries which are still awaited. Once the message box is acknowledged, the cursor will move to the first record having blank FldRight awaiting entry.

    As an added effect, you could consider highlighting such blank fields in special color, through conditional formatting.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

=====================================
Private Sub Form_Unload(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim rst As DAO.Recordset
    Dim RecSource As String, Blanks As Long
    
    Me.Dirty = False
    RecSource = Me.RecordSource
    Blanks = DCount("*", RecSource, _
                                    "FldRight Is Null")
    If Blanks > 0 Then
        Set rst = Me.RecordsetClone
        MsgBox Blanks & " Entries Still " & _
                                "Pending In Field FldRight"
        rst.FindFirst "FldRight Is Null"
        If Not rst.NoMatch Then
            Me.Bookmark = rst.Bookmark
            FldRight.SetFocus
        End If
        Set rst = Nothing
        Cancel = True
    End If
End Sub
=====================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Rojas 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 18:25
  Subject: [AccessD] Datasheet view validation


  Hi All,

  I have a form that has as its record source a query that joins two tables together in a one-to-many relationship (outer join). I am displaying this form as a datasheet.
  The query is designed so that there will never be any records that match on the "many" side when it is first opened. The query only displays two columns. One from the "one" side and one from the "many" side.
  As I have it now, a user could close the form without entering data into the field from the "many" side, thus not creating a record on the "many" side.

  How can I verify that the user has entered data in the field from the "many" side for every record that is displayed? I don't want to restrict the row order in which they enter data but I do want to make sure that the field for each row is filled in before they close the form.

  Thanks!
  JR


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Apr  4 13:18:17 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:18:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5991@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Well, my first experiences with a (defective) Linux server where pretty
scary.....

As probably all "first" time (technical) experiences are...
My first lobster and first Spanish tapas where rather pleasant.


Erwin

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Verzonden: maandag 4 april 2005 17:52
Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Onderwerp: Re: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?

Scott and Erwin:

Thanks for you replies.  There's no end of stuff to know, is there?

Rocky

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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?


> Yes you can. I've been doing this for nearly two years.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:33 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
>
> Dear List:
>
> Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the
> clients?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Apr  4 13:38:24 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:38:24 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Microsoft access questions
In-Reply-To: <200504032204.j33M4Ji07313@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F372D2C534462CA05124B88D23B0@phx.gbl>

Joe,

Below is a description from http://www.freedomscientific.com
that describes JAWS, which assists vision-impaired computer users.

"The most popular screen reader worldwide, JAWS? for Windows works with your 
PC to provide access to today?s software applications and the Internet. With 
its internal software speech synthesizer and the computer?s sound card, 
information from the screen is read aloud, providing technology to access a 
wide variety of information, education and job related applications. JAWS 
also outputs to refreshable Braille displays, providing unmatched Braille 
support of any screen reader on the market. A training tutorial is 
included."

If your end user will be utilizing JAWS, write the app so the mouse will 
never be touched.

Thanks,

Mark




>From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Microsoft access questions
>Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 15:04:27 -0700
>
>Mark,
>
>What is Jaws
>
>Joe Hecht
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>28g
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>Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:27 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: microsoft access questions
>
>Marvin,
>
>Last year I rolled out a database in Texas.  When I got to the last 
>machine,
>
>I was introduced to JAWS ?
>
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr  4 14:49:43 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:49:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <015201c538bf$3cf22ba0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<015201c538bf$3cf22ba0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30504041249194ba138@mail.gmail.com>

Rocky,

Actually, no. He certainly could get the total purchase price, say, of
all of his books with a Word document; it would just take him a while
to add it up on an adding machine. Getting a list of everything stored
in the basement storage room would be a chore, too.

Steve Erbach

On Apr 3, 2005 9:37 PM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
<bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Steve:
> 
> Not really responsive but I have to question why he wants to do this at all?
> Unless it's just a busman's holiday, why not just create a list of his
> albums, a list of his books, a list of his cassettes in a word doc print it
> out and be done.  Then he'd know everything he needs by looking at the
> lists, no?
> 
> Rocky
>


From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr  4 14:55:02 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:55:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <s2511712.037@cactus.dk>
References: <s2511712.037@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050404125558f4b296@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav,

I'm sure he's considered the time needed. I once "inventoried" all the
books in our house by category. I didn't list them, I just counted
them. No way would I want to record even just the titles in a
database. But my friend seems reconciled to it.

Steve Erbach

On Apr 4, 2005 3:29 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Steve
> 
> Has he considered the time needed to "record" these things??
> 
> I once listed all my vinyl records in a nice database as I planned to
> sell them as a collection. Quickly I realized the amount of typing work
> and persuaded (bought) my daughter to do this for sweet daddy. She did
> but I wasn't proud.
> 
> So your friend should consider if it wasn't a better idea to
> listen/watch/read items from his collection rather than spending a vast
> amount of time recording it. Unless, of course, he has 50 items of each
> in which case - as suggested - write a list in Word.
> 
> Oh, I didn't sell the records ...
> 
> /gustav


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  4 14:58:20 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:58:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<015201c538bf$3cf22ba0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
	<39cb22f30504041249194ba138@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02e001c53950$a6fafa40$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Steve:

Then it seem like Excel would be the ideal tool.  No programming.  No 
design.  No debugging.  Capture the data in it's simplest form - item, 
location cost - sum of cost at the end.

Then down the road, he could always make an Access db - the spreadsheets 
would be easy to convert.  My guess is that the would never fool with it 
because the spreadsheets would give him all the information he needed.

Effective, but, of course, no fun.

Rocky


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Home inventory problem


> Rocky,
>
> Actually, no. He certainly could get the total purchase price, say, of
> all of his books with a Word document; it would just take him a while
> to add it up on an adding machine. Getting a list of everything stored
> in the basement storage room would be a chore, too.
>
> Steve Erbach
>
> On Apr 3, 2005 9:37 PM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>> Steve:
>>
>> Not really responsive but I have to question why he wants to do this at 
>> all?
>> Unless it's just a busman's holiday, why not just create a list of his
>> albums, a list of his books, a list of his cassettes in a word doc print 
>> it
>> out and be done.  Then he'd know everything he needs by looking at the
>> lists, no?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr  4 14:59:34 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02859D96@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02859D96@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305040412593de851fe@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

I think we're on the right track here. You're talking about
many-to-many linking tables.

Thanks for detailing this method. At least YOU took me seriously.
Rocky and Gustav just came up with "take time to smell the roses!"
Sheesh!

Steve Erbach

On Apr 3, 2005 9:56 PM, Jim Hewson <JHewson at karta.com> wrote:
> Steve,
> What you need are junction tables.  Tables that hold PKs from different tables.
> I've done this for several different databases.
> I'm currently working on one for pastoral musicians to keep track of their music.
> Songs, composers (with multiple songs), who arranged the piece (could be composer or someone else), instruments (single or multiple), copyright holders and addresses.  A song could be sheet, book, cd, octavo or combination.  A song could be used for one or more liturgical season (e.g. Tridiuum and Easter).  I have seen two songs with the same title, different composers.  What is the vocal arrangement (choir, duet, quartet, etc.) if any.
> 
> In your sample below, you had a closet with several different collections.  Let's use the family room, hall closet and guest room.  PK for these three rooms are 1, 2, and respectively.
> The second collection is for videos - Video 1, Video 2 and Video 3.
> Third collection is for Music CDs - CD 1, CD 2, and CD3.
> 
> I typically keep junction tables to two columns (one for each table) to allow a multiple combinations between the them.
> 
> By using a junction table the PKs of four tables become FKs.
> 
> RmID   MusicID
> 1             2
> 2             1
> 3             3
> 1             1
> 
> RmID    VidioID
> 1             1
> 2             3
> 3             2
> 2             1
> 
> RmID     CDID
> 1             2
> 2             1
> 3             3
> 1             1
> 
> Using junction tables, you can create a reports.
> For example, you want a report by room of everything that's in the rooms.
> Using the Junction table you can pull the room with ID 1 into one report.
> The common thread in your example are the rooms.
> 
> HTH
> Jim
>


From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr  4 15:02:17 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:02:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <0IEF0033O8KROR@l-daemon>
References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<0IEF0033O8KROR@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050404130272f63caa@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

Interesting. Do you know, I have never tried to use an ActiveX control
in an Access application. I think I'll stick with Jim H.'s
many-to-many linking tables idea, if you don't mind. Thanks for your
input.

Steve Erbach

On Apr 4, 2005 7:12 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Steve:
> 
> Have you tried looking into the use of a flexgrid? If you have access to VB6
> or the like, the flexgrid can be used by referencing the FlexGrid control
> 'msflxgrd.ocx', the Hierarchical FlexGrid control 'mshflxgd.ocx' or/with the
> ADO Shape control 'msadodc.ocx' (available through ADO 2.0 and up).
> 
> I have only had to reference the Hierarchical FlexGrid once for a client
> when the requirement was for viewing data in various groupings depending on
> which column, from the list presented that was selected. The grid would
> re-form with each click. The control names might be slightly dated (dlls
> might be used now) as the application was created at least five years ago
> and it has not required changing in these areas.
> 
> See Microsoft reference to the flex controls at:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vbcon98/htm
> l/vbconhflexgridcontrol.asp (watch for wrap)
> 
> Or a sample ADO shape command being used:
> http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=6512&lng
> WId=4
> 
> Without going into great detail...
> 
> HTH
> Jim


From vrm at tim-cms.com  Mon Apr  4 15:32:21 2005
From: vrm at tim-cms.com (Marcel Vreuls)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 22:32:21 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code
In-Reply-To: <00ab01c538cc$efe80010$601865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <200504041632765.SM02892@ORSLAPTOP>

 
TNXS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just what I needed.

Marcel
 
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Verzonden: maandag 4 april 2005 5:08
Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Onderwerp: Re: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code

Marcel,

    You should be able to obtain the required information directly from the
modules collection.

    Sample sub-routine given below, will list all lines (along with names of
respective modules) satisfying your criteria, in the immediate window. For
your specific case, the following statement, calling this subroutine, will
do the needful.
    P_GetMatchingCodeLines "MsgBox"

    Important - You have to set reference to Microsoft Visual Basic For
Applications Extensibility 5.3

A.D.Tejpal
--------------

===================================
Public Sub P_GetMatchingCodeLines(ByVal _
                                            MatchString As String)
    ' This needs reference to Microsoft Visual Basic
    ' For Applications Extensibility 5.3
    Dim mdc As Modules, md As Module
    Dim Cnt As Long, Lct As Long, Txt As String
    Dim DecLines As Long, ProcStLine As Long
    Dim ModName As String, PrName As String
    Dim ProcLine As Long
    
    Set mdc = Application.Modules
    ' Loop through all the modules in this collection
    For Cnt = 0 To mdc.Count - 1
        Set md = mdc(Cnt)
        ' Get name of module
        ModName = md.Name
        ' Get number of lines in declaration portion
        DecLines = md.CountOfDeclarationLines
        ' Loop through all the lines in this module
        For Lct = 1 To md.CountOfLines
            ' Get the contents of line Lct
            Txt = md.Lines(Lct, 1)
            If InStr(Txt, MatchString) > 0 Then
                If md.Type = acStandardModule _
                                            Or InStr(ModName, _
                                            "Form_") > 0 Then    ' (A)
                    If Lct > DecLines Then                      ' (B)
                        ' Get name of procedure
                        ' (in which, line Lct is contained)
                        PrName = md.ProcOfLine(Lct, _
                                            vbext_pk_Proc)
                        ' Get starting Line No for this procedure
                        ProcStLine = md.ProcBodyLine(PrName, _
                                            vbext_pk_Proc)        ' (C)
                        ' Compute Line number as counted
                        ' from start of procedure
                        ProcLine = Lct - ProcStLine + 1
                    Else
                        PrName = "Declaration Sec"
                        ProcStLine = 1
                        ProcLine = Lct
                    End If
                Else
                    PrName = "Class"
                    ProcStLine = 1
                    ProcLine = Lct
                End If
                Debug.Print "Mod - " & ModName & ",  Proc - " & _
                            PrName & ",  Line(ProcLine) - " & _
                            Lct & "(" & ProcLine & ")"
                Debug.Print Space(6) & Trim(Txt)
            End If
        Next
    Next
    
    Set md = Nothing
    Set mdc = Nothing
    
    ' Note - (A) & (B) are needed so as to ensure that there is
    '              no mismatch of argument regarding assumed type
    '              of procedure ()
    '              (C) The value returned by md.ProcBodyLine() is
    '              more dependable as it gives the line number where
    '              the procedure actually starts. On the other hand,
    '              md.ProcStartLine() returns the first line after end
    '              of prev procedure. This can be misleading when
    '              there are one or more blank lines between
    '              adjacent procedures.
End Sub
===================================

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  Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 14:25
  Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code


  Dear Group,

  Just a quick question. Does someone know how I can collect all rows in
vbacode where the function msgbox is stated and put this in the debug window
or just drop in a file.

  Thanks in advance,

  Marcel
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From JHewson at karta.com  Mon Apr  4 15:40:59 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:40:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F25@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

They do have a point though.
Sometimes the simplest or non-technical solution is the best.
I have spent hours - days - no weeks on a database and gave it to the customer.  Only to have them decide it's too much work to enter the data and maintain.  So the database became a throw-away sample.  At least I got paid for it... besides as Rocky suggested - there can be a fun side of doing things.

Jim H.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Home inventory problem


Jim,

I think we're on the right track here. You're talking about
many-to-many linking tables.

Thanks for detailing this method. At least YOU took me seriously.
Rocky and Gustav just came up with "take time to smell the roses!"
Sheesh!

Steve Erbach

On Apr 3, 2005 9:56 PM, Jim Hewson <JHewson at karta.com> wrote:
> Steve,
> What you need are junction tables.  Tables that hold PKs from different tables.
> I've done this for several different databases.
> I'm currently working on one for pastoral musicians to keep track of their music.
> Songs, composers (with multiple songs), who arranged the piece (could be composer or someone else), instruments (single or multiple), copyright holders and addresses.  A song could be sheet, book, cd, octavo or combination.  A song could be used for one or more liturgical season (e.g. Tridiuum and Easter).  I have seen two songs with the same title, different composers.  What is the vocal arrangement (choir, duet, quartet, etc.) if any.
> 
> In your sample below, you had a closet with several different collections.  Let's use the family room, hall closet and guest room.  PK for these three rooms are 1, 2, and respectively.
> The second collection is for videos - Video 1, Video 2 and Video 3.
> Third collection is for Music CDs - CD 1, CD 2, and CD3.
> 
> I typically keep junction tables to two columns (one for each table) to allow a multiple combinations between the them.
> 
> By using a junction table the PKs of four tables become FKs.
> 
> RmID   MusicID
> 1             2
> 2             1
> 3             3
> 1             1
> 
> RmID    VidioID
> 1             1
> 2             3
> 3             2
> 2             1
> 
> RmID     CDID
> 1             2
> 2             1
> 3             3
> 1             1
> 
> Using junction tables, you can create a reports.
> For example, you want a report by room of everything that's in the rooms.
> Using the Junction table you can pull the room with ID 1 into one report.
> The common thread in your example are the rooms.
> 
> HTH
> Jim
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Apr  4 16:01:55 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:01:55 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374DB@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

He could scan the ISBN barcode. I remember we had a discussion once (couple
of years ago?) about a cheapo scanner that was being given away free- I got
one from Forbes magazine as I recall. There was a great hack with code to
allow one to scan into Access. Hey, if you're going off the deep end why not
go all the way?!
Jim Hale 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 2:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Home inventory problem


Gustav,

I'm sure he's considered the time needed. I once "inventoried" all the
books in our house by category. I didn't list them, I just counted
them. No way would I want to record even just the titles in a
database. But my friend seems reconciled to it.

Steve Erbach

On Apr 4, 2005 3:29 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Steve
> 
> Has he considered the time needed to "record" these things??
> 
> I once listed all my vinyl records in a nice database as I planned to
> sell them as a collection. Quickly I realized the amount of typing work
> and persuaded (bought) my daughter to do this for sweet daddy. She did
> but I wasn't proud.
> 
> So your friend should consider if it wasn't a better idea to
> listen/watch/read items from his collection rather than spending a vast
> amount of time recording it. Unless, of course, he has 50 items of each
> in which case - as suggested - write a list in Word.
> 
> Oh, I didn't sell the records ...
> 
> /gustav
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Apr  4 16:45:34 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:45:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08657DD600@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Are you talking about the CueCat?  A quick Google showed me this little
gem:
http://www.cedmagic.com/cuecat/cuecat.html

I still have one of those in my dusty ol' junk boxes.  I'm definitely
going to try this out!

(...and the CueCat goes down in the annals of history as one of the
poorest conceived technology ventures.  Yeech!)


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Home inventory problem

He could scan the ISBN barcode. I remember we had a discussion once
(couple of years ago?) about a cheapo scanner that was being given away
free- I got one from Forbes magazine as I recall. There was a great hack
with code to allow one to scan into Access. Hey, if you're going off the
deep end why not go all the way?!
Jim Hale 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 2:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Home inventory problem


Gustav,

I'm sure he's considered the time needed. I once "inventoried" all the
books in our house by category. I didn't list them, I just counted them.
No way would I want to record even just the titles in a database. But my
friend seems reconciled to it.

Steve Erbach

On Apr 4, 2005 3:29 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Steve
> 
> Has he considered the time needed to "record" these things??
> 
> I once listed all my vinyl records in a nice database as I planned to 
> sell them as a collection. Quickly I realized the amount of typing 
> work and persuaded (bought) my daughter to do this for sweet daddy. 
> She did but I wasn't proud.
> 
> So your friend should consider if it wasn't a better idea to 
> listen/watch/read items from his collection rather than spending a 
> vast amount of time recording it. Unless, of
 as suggested - write a list in Word.
> 
> Oh, I didn't sell the records ...
> 
> /gustav

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr  4 18:17:40 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:17:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
In-Reply-To: <004e01c53923$22cd84e0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <000601c5396c$82cc1070$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Rocky,

Understanding the answer to this question requires understanding that JET
runs on the workstation, NOT the server.  JET knows how to ask for pieces of
a file (an MDA/E/B) and any file server that can be used with Windows knows
how to open a file and return a piece of that file.  That is really all that
the "server" does with an Access MDB BE.  Jet, running on the workstation
says "Hmmm.... It seems I need 3,940 bytes of data starting at offset
3,487,128", which is exactly what it tells the file server - "please open
the file "MyBE.MDB", move to location 3,487,128 and return the next 3,940
bytes".  JET knows that the data it asked for is 100 records from table X.
All the server knows is that someone (some program) asked for X bytes
starting at location Y in file Z.

More or less of course.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:33 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?


Dear List:

Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the
clients?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr  4 18:32:21 2005
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:32:21 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform
Message-ID: <200504042332.j34NWplE014366@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hello all
This should be simple :-))

If I type me.undo and attach it to a button on a form I can undo edits to a record.

If I have a main form that has a sub form in it and if I attach code something like
Forms!MyForm!MySubForm.Form.Undo to a button on the main form with the intention of
Undo-ing any edit to the sub form it doesn't seem to work

How do I undo edits to a sub form from a button on the parent form??

Many thanks

Darren






From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Apr  4 18:33:48 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:33:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
References: <004e01c53923$22cd84e0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <4251CEDC.7020104@shaw.ca>

Yes if you run something like Samba file server on Linux.
ChiliSoft had a software package to run ASP on Linux, they had a good 
writeup on
how to install Access mdb's  with Samba and then get at with their ASP 
software
They were bought out in the last year but cant remember by whom.
http://www.samba.org



Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

>Dear List:
>
>Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the clients?
>
>MTIA
>
>Rocky Smolin
>Beach Access Software
>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>858-259-4334
>  
>

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Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Apr  4 18:37:40 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:37:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F25@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <4251CFC4.7010401@shaw.ca>

I did this for insurance purposes but I just divided everything up into 
rooms, furniture, appliances, paintings but everything had a picture
associated with it, then added a written description. Of course if you 
are insuring your wine collections and you have a couple of cases of 
 Chateau Yquem
Sauternes from 1921 , you want to take pictures of the labels.

Jim Hewson wrote:

>They do have a point though.
>Sometimes the simplest or non-technical solution is the best.
>I have spent hours - days - no weeks on a database and gave it to the customer.  Only to have them decide it's too much work to enter the data and maintain.  So the database became a throw-away sample.  At least I got paid for it... besides as Rocky suggested - there can be a fun side of doing things.
>
>Jim H.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
>Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:00 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
>
>
>Jim,
>
>I think we're on the right track here. You're talking about
>many-to-many linking tables.
>
>Thanks for detailing this method. At least YOU took me seriously.
>Rocky and Gustav just came up with "take time to smell the roses!"
>Sheesh!
>
>Steve Erbach
>
>On Apr 3, 2005 9:56 PM, Jim Hewson <JHewson at karta.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Steve,
>>What you need are junction tables.  Tables that hold PKs from different tables.
>>I've done this for several different databases.
>>I'm currently working on one for pastoral musicians to keep track of their music.
>>Songs, composers (with multiple songs), who arranged the piece (could be composer or someone else), instruments (single or multiple), copyright holders and addresses.  A song could be sheet, book, cd, octavo or combination.  A song could be used for one or more liturgical season (e.g. Tridiuum and Easter).  I have seen two songs with the same title, different composers.  What is the vocal arrangement (choir, duet, quartet, etc.) if any.
>>
>>In your sample below, you had a closet with several different collections.  Let's use the family room, hall closet and guest room.  PK for these three rooms are 1, 2, and respectively.
>>The second collection is for videos - Video 1, Video 2 and Video 3.
>>Third collection is for Music CDs - CD 1, CD 2, and CD3.
>>
>>I typically keep junction tables to two columns (one for each table) to allow a multiple combinations between the them.
>>
>>By using a junction table the PKs of four tables become FKs.
>>
>>RmID   MusicID
>>1             2
>>2             1
>>3             3
>>1             1
>>
>>RmID    VidioID
>>1             1
>>2             3
>>3             2
>>2             1
>>
>>RmID     CDID
>>1             2
>>2             1
>>3             3
>>1             1
>>
>>Using junction tables, you can create a reports.
>>For example, you want a report by room of everything that's in the rooms.
>>Using the Junction table you can pull the room with ID 1 into one report.
>>The common thread in your example are the rooms.
>>
>>HTH
>>Jim
>>
>>    
>>

-- 
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Canada





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  4 18:58:44 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:58:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
References: <000601c5396c$82cc1070$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <038d01c53972$3c42e880$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Got it.  They're running E-Z-MRP in Honduras and are moving to a Linux 
server.  That's why the question.

Thanks.

Rocky

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From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?


> Rocky,
>
> Understanding the answer to this question requires understanding that JET
> runs on the workstation, NOT the server.  JET knows how to ask for pieces 
> of
> a file (an MDA/E/B) and any file server that can be used with Windows 
> knows
> how to open a file and return a piece of that file.  That is really all 
> that
> the "server" does with an Access MDB BE.  Jet, running on the workstation
> says "Hmmm.... It seems I need 3,940 bytes of data starting at offset
> 3,487,128", which is exactly what it tells the file server - "please open
> the file "MyBE.MDB", move to location 3,487,128 and return the next 3,940
> bytes".  JET knows that the data it asked for is 100 records from table X.
> All the server knows is that someone (some program) asked for X bytes
> starting at location Y in file Z.
>
> More or less of course.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:33 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the
> clients?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr  4 19:45:21 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:45:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687395C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can't do it simply, Darren.  When you click the button on the parent
form, the subform record is saved automatically, so undo is no longer
available.  The way I have done this in the past is either with an
unbound subform which can be cleared, by deleting the subform record, or
by storing the current value of each field to the field's tag property
and then overwriting the new value if the decided to "undo."

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform


Hello all
This should be simple :-))

If I type me.undo and attach it to a button on a form I can undo edits
to a record.

If I have a main form that has a sub form in it and if I attach code
something like Forms!MyForm!MySubForm.Form.Undo to a button on the main
form with the intention of Undo-ing any edit to the sub form it doesn't
seem to work

How do I undo edits to a sub form from a button on the parent form??

Many thanks

Darren




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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  4 21:09:35 2005
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:09:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
Message-ID: <20050405020935.53274.qmail@web41104.mail.yahoo.com>

How come clients always find buttons to press that the programmer didn't think of?
 
I have a program for a chain of Sunbed Studios. Because the clients can buy packages of "units of use" and have them in credit it is necessary to give them a PIN No. as well as a Membership Number.
 
When they enter their Membership Number and press <Continue> a popup/modal with one field, in password format, asks them to enter their PIN. The only other thing on the form is <Continue>. Magically, it has been discovered that if they press Left Arrow a box appears with their Membership Number and, much worse, if they press Right Arrow the PIN Number appears in clear.
 
I am now nearly bald!
 
Anyone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
 
TIA
 
Chris

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr  4 21:37:27 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:37:27 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A90135B181@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Charlotte
many thanks - I will lok for an alternative to the Undo

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tue 5/04/2005 10:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform



You can't do it simply, Darren.  When you click the button on the parent
form, the subform record is saved automatically, so undo is no longer
available.  The way I have done this in the past is either with an
unbound subform which can be cleared, by deleting the subform record, or
by storing the current value of each field to the field's tag property
and then overwriting the new value if the decided to "undo."

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform


Hello all
This should be simple :-))

If I type me.undo and attach it to a button on a form I can undo edits
to a record.

If I have a main form that has a sub form in it and if I attach code
something like Forms!MyForm!MySubForm.Form.Undo to a button on the main
form with the intention of Undo-ing any edit to the sub form it doesn't
seem to work

How do I undo edits to a sub form from a button on the parent form??

Many thanks

Darren




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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr  4 22:20:43 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:20:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
Message-ID: <000001c5398e$77cefbc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Is anyone working with SQL Server 2005 Express (beta) and VB Express (2005?)
(beta)?

I am interested in SQL Server 2005 express specifically because it appears
to be a good match for smaller databases (all of my clients), and in
particular my really small clients with just a handful of users up to
perhaps 20 users.  I downloaded SQL and VB express tonight and am starting
to eval it just to see where it is.   No idea the projected release dates.

John W. Colby
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr  4 22:39:13 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:39:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr  4 22:53:39 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:53:39 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A90135B184@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

JC
That is outstanding!!! - way cool and congratulations
Kids are - without a doubt - the biggest rush in life
 
Good on you and Mary
 
DD
 

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of John W. Colby
Sent: Tue 5/04/2005 1:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life



I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months. 

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  4 22:59:54 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:59:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
References: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <044001c53993$ed4895a0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Well, good luck.  I am, as you know, an 'old Dad' too, 56 with an 8 year old 
(also a 15 y.o.).

The best thing I ever did with both boys was the Indian Guides program 
through the YMCA.  Look into it.  They have separate programs for boys and 
girls.  It gives you exclusive time with the kid apart from their sibling.

My Indian name was 'Second Wind'.  Now you know why.


Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


>I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live". 
>As
> many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the 
> cutest
> kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
> when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We 
> got
> Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.
>
> The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
> will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
> weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two 
> legs
> (well, they ARE).
>
> Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be 
> doing
> this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year 
> old
> boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
> year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
> about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
> account <grin>.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Apr  4 23:14:07 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:14:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7UKFAAAQAAAAsvlcCz9Nb0q6/8ibTtZiCAEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Great news,
Best wishes! 


John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr  4 23:15:32 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 00:15:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <044001c53993$ed4895a0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <000a01c53996$21551970$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

>My Indian name was 'Second Wind'.  Now you know why.

ROTFL

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:00 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


Well, good luck.  I am, as you know, an 'old Dad' too, 56 with an 8 year old

(also a 15 y.o.).

The best thing I ever did with both boys was the Indian Guides program 
through the YMCA.  Look into it.  They have separate programs for boys and 
girls.  It gives you exclusive time with the kid apart from their sibling.

My Indian name was 'Second Wind'.  Now you know why.


Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


>I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going 
>live".
>As
> many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the 
> cutest
> kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
> when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We 
> got
> Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.
>
> The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of 
> them will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in 
> less than 2 weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest 
> kids on two legs (well, they ARE).
>
> Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be
> doing
> this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year 
> old
> boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
> year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
> about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
> account <grin>.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Tue Apr  5 00:00:11 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:30:11 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code
References: <200504041632765.SM02892@ORSLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <006d01c5399c$67ab5410$b120f63d@winxp>

    You are most welcome Marcel!

A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marcel Vreuls 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 02:02
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code


  TNXS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  Just what I needed.

  Marcel
   
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens A.D.Tejpal
  Verzonden: maandag 4 april 2005 5:08
  Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Onderwerp: Re: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code

  Marcel,

      You should be able to obtain the required information directly from the modules collection.

      Sample sub-routine given below, will list all lines (along with names of respective modules) satisfying your criteria, in the immediate window. For your specific case, the following statement, calling this subroutine, will do the needful.
      P_GetMatchingCodeLines "MsgBox"

      Important - You have to set reference to Microsoft Visual Basic For Applications Extensibility 5.3

  A.D.Tejpal
  --------------

  ===================================
  Public Sub P_GetMatchingCodeLines(ByVal _
                                              MatchString As String)
      ' This needs reference to Microsoft Visual Basic
      ' For Applications Extensibility 5.3
      Dim mdc As Modules, md As Module
      Dim Cnt As Long, Lct As Long, Txt As String
      Dim DecLines As Long, ProcStLine As Long
      Dim ModName As String, PrName As String
      Dim ProcLine As Long
      
      Set mdc = Application.Modules
      ' Loop through all the modules in this collection
      For Cnt = 0 To mdc.Count - 1
          Set md = mdc(Cnt)
          ' Get name of module
          ModName = md.Name
          ' Get number of lines in declaration portion
          DecLines = md.CountOfDeclarationLines
          ' Loop through all the lines in this module
          For Lct = 1 To md.CountOfLines
              ' Get the contents of line Lct
              Txt = md.Lines(Lct, 1)
              If InStr(Txt, MatchString) > 0 Then
                  If md.Type = acStandardModule _
                                              Or InStr(ModName, _
                                              "Form_") > 0 Then    ' (A)
                      If Lct > DecLines Then                      ' (B)
                          ' Get name of procedure
                          ' (in which, line Lct is contained)
                          PrName = md.ProcOfLine(Lct, _
                                              vbext_pk_Proc)
                          ' Get starting Line No for this procedure
                          ProcStLine = md.ProcBodyLine(PrName, _
                                              vbext_pk_Proc)        ' (C)
                          ' Compute Line number as counted
                          ' from start of procedure
                          ProcLine = Lct - ProcStLine + 1
                      Else
                          PrName = "Declaration Sec"
                          ProcStLine = 1
                          ProcLine = Lct
                      End If
                  Else
                      PrName = "Class"
                      ProcStLine = 1
                      ProcLine = Lct
                  End If
                  Debug.Print "Mod - " & ModName & ",  Proc - " & _
                              PrName & ",  Line(ProcLine) - " & _
                              Lct & "(" & ProcLine & ")"
                  Debug.Print Space(6) & Trim(Txt)
              End If
          Next
      Next
      
      Set md = Nothing
      Set mdc = Nothing
      
      ' Note - (A) & (B) are needed so as to ensure that there is
      '              no mismatch of argument regarding assumed type
      '              of procedure ()
      '              (C) The value returned by md.ProcBodyLine() is
      '              more dependable as it gives the line number where
      '              the procedure actually starts. On the other hand,
      '              md.ProcStartLine() returns the first line after end
      '              of prev procedure. This can be misleading when
      '              there are one or more blank lines between
      '              adjacent procedures.
  End Sub
  ===================================

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Marcel Vreuls
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
    Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 14:25
    Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code


    Dear Group,

    Just a quick question. Does someone know how I can collect all rows in
  vbacode where the function msgbox is stated and put this in the debug window
  or just drop in a file.

    Thanks in advance,

    Marcel



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  5 00:27:39 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 22:27:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
References: <000001c5398e$77cefbc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <425221CB.6060502@shaw.ca>

http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2004/07/23/192044.aspx
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/sql/
http://www.sql-server-express.com/
Watch out for difference between SQL DMO and newer SMO
SQL Server 2005 Express Documentation and Samples
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2adbc1a8-ae5c-497d-b584-eab6719300cd&DisplayLang=en

You will want the express manager replacement for EM
don't know if it is g\in Feb or March Beta release

http://www.aspfaq.com/sql2005/?show.asp?id=22

http://www.aspfaq.com/sql2005/?show.asp?id=24


http://www.aspfaq.com/sql2005/?show.asp?id=1

 

John W. Colby wrote:

>Is anyone working with SQL Server 2005 Express (beta) and VB Express (2005?)
>(beta)?
>
>I am interested in SQL Server 2005 express specifically because it appears
>to be a good match for smaller databases (all of my clients), and in
>particular my really small clients with just a handful of users up to
>perhaps 20 users.  I downloaded SQL and VB express tonight and am starting
>to eval it just to see where it is.   No idea the projected release dates.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
>  
>

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Canada





From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  5 00:50:40 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 22:50:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
In-Reply-To: <000001c5398e$77cefbc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IEG0036ZLKAP5@l-daemon>

Hi John:

I would love to start working with SQL Express but the package seems to at
opposition to either VB studio .Net or any other version of SQL... a real
pain. It seems to demand a machine specifically setup for it.

My two cents worth
Jim 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express

Is anyone working with SQL Server 2005 Express (beta) and VB Express (2005?)
(beta)?

I am interested in SQL Server 2005 express specifically because it appears
to be a good match for smaller databases (all of my clients), and in
particular my really small clients with just a handful of users up to
perhaps 20 users.  I downloaded SQL and VB express tonight and am starting
to eval it just to see where it is.   No idea the projected release dates.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  5 00:57:36 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 22:57:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IEG00A3OLVVGH@l-daemon>

Hi John:

I have a good friend and second cousin who had two more children at 60+ and
he has never been happier saying it is the one thing that keeps him so
young. This is all great news. Our kids are starting to tell me what to do
and how to do it... and they are no longer teenagers.

Good luck and prayers 
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com  Tue Apr  5 03:08:06 2005
From: JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com (JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 04:08:06 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] AXP fails to install
Message-ID: <105.5e3c27f0.2f83a166@aol.com>

Hi List
 
I've a runtime AXP db with WinXP SP1 and Office standard with SP2 which  have 
been working fine for weeks on 6 workstations running w2k. We buy 2 new  pc's 
with WinXP SP2 and now setup gives the message.

"The Office System  Pack cannot be installed on this system because the 
languages are not the same.  Install the Office System Pack for the appropriate 
language on your computer.  For assistance, contact your application provider."
 
Its not true, on the face of it. The languages are the same. I  installed 
WInXP SP2 on the 
developer pc with no joy. I've   installed Office XP developer on the pc in 
question logged on Administrator  run the runtime setup with same error 
message. I even ran the package wizard  over Northwind db and tried to install it. No 
change. I'm stuck,  suggestions please.

It there a registry setting that controlling the  job?

regards and TIA
johnb



From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Tue Apr  5 03:21:55 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:21:55 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188072257D0@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Congratulations to you and Mary, JC. :D
It sounds like you're having a lot of fun for all that it's hard work. I
think you're right though, it's tough at any age! None of my own, but I'm
very much looking forwards to becoming an aunt in June. All the advantages
and none (well, not much) of the responsibility!

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: 05 April 2005 04:39
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Tue Apr  5 03:32:46 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:32:46 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
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Sent: 05 April 2005 09:22
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life

Congratulations to you and Mary, JC. :D
It sounds like you're having a lot of fun for all that it's hard work. I
think you're right though, it's tough at any age! None of my own, but I'm
very much looking forwards to becoming an aunt in June. All the advantages
and none (well, not much) of the responsibility!

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: 05 April 2005 04:39
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  5 03:41:37 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 10:41:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <s2526b75.057@cactus.dk>

Hi John

Here that would mean setting up a web camera in the bedroom ...

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 04/05 5:39 am >>>

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going
live". 



From david.powell at kcl.ac.uk  Tue Apr  5 03:51:41 2005
From: david.powell at kcl.ac.uk (david Powell)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:51:41 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
In-Reply-To: <0IEG0036ZLKAP5@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <200504050851.j358p3i22537@databaseadvisors.com>

This has been my experience - SQL Server 2005 Express requires a different
version of DotNet framework than that required for Visual Basic Express.  So
running both on the same machine will lead to complicatons.

I agree with Jim that it is best to use a separate machine.
Clearly this is a awkward and will probably be resolved when Beta 2 (as
opposed to community editions) is released.

David

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: 05 April 2005 06:51
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express

Hi John:

I would love to start working with SQL Express but the package seems to at
opposition to either VB studio .Net or any other version of SQL... a real
pain. It seems to demand a machine specifically setup for it.

My two cents worth
Jim 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express

Is anyone working with SQL Server 2005 Express (beta) and VB Express (2005?)
(beta)?

I am interested in SQL Server 2005 express specifically because it appears
to be a good match for smaller databases (all of my clients), and in
particular my really small clients with just a handful of users up to
perhaps 20 users.  I downloaded SQL and VB express tonight and am starting
to eval it just to see where it is.   No idea the projected release dates.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Apr  5 07:00:47 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 08:00:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <s2526b75.057@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000901c539d7$1dd13950$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

>I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live". 

>Here that would mean setting up a web camera in the bedroom ...


ROTFLBTC.

THAT ain't happening!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


Hi John

Here that would mean setting up a web camera in the bedroom ...

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 04/05 5:39 am >>>

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live". 

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From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:04:45 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Upsize wizard MDB to SQL
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B59A8@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

 
I need to migrate a MDB front and back to SQL server.
 
I tried the both the upsize wizard in MSA2K3 and the import wizard from
SQL server 2000.
But I found out that a lot of stuff are not migrated and renders the
application in a non useable state.
In some cases all the queries are missing, or primary keys and relations
are not set, to much various things missing to verify manualy.
 
I wonder if a commercial tool exists to do a better upsize that will
leave my database in a more or less workable state?
 
Personaly I would prefer a parralel migration.
 
All data in sql server, still using the regular front end but linked
tables to sql and first migrate my IIS-ASP website to .NET and later on
the (multiple) front end MDB.
 

 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  5 07:19:52 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:19:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
In-Reply-To: <20050405020935.53274.qmail@web41104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050405121955.RQQR1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, I hate to sound paranoid, but is it possible someone's been hacking?
There's nothing in Access that would do this -- someone's told it to. 

Do you have any routines that would display these filled in forms? Did you
create these forms?

Susan H. 

How come clients always find buttons to press that the programmer didn't
think of?
 
I have a program for a chain of Sunbed Studios. Because the clients can buy
packages of "units of use" and have them in credit it is necessary to give
them a PIN No. as well as a Membership Number.
 
When they enter their Membership Number and press <Continue> a popup/modal
with one field, in password format, asks them to enter their PIN. The only
other thing on the form is <Continue>. Magically, it has been discovered
that if they press Left Arrow a box appears with their Membership Number
and, much worse, if they press Right Arrow the PIN Number appears in clear.
 
I am now nearly bald!
 
Anyone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
 
TIA
 
Chris

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  5 07:19:52 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:19:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
In-Reply-To: <000001c5398e$77cefbc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050405122002.RQSI1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Yes, I'm working on a book. I haven't looked at VB Express yet. 

As to release date -- who knows? :( 

Unfortunately, in some areas it's not as powerful as MSDE was, but it is
still an excellent, and free, solution for the small guys. 

Susan H. 

Is anyone working with SQL Server 2005 Express (beta) and VB Express (2005?)
(beta)?

I am interested in SQL Server 2005 express specifically because it appears
to be a good match for smaller databases (all of my clients), and in
particular my really small clients with just a handful of users up to
perhaps 20 users.  I downloaded SQL and VB express tonight and am starting
to eval it just to see where it is.   No idea the projected release dates.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  5 07:19:52 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:19:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <000901c539d7$1dd13950$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050405122014.RQVC1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

With two kids, it's not like it would matter. ;) 

Congratulations, good luck and all that and God bless you all. ;) 

Susan H. 

>I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live". 

>Here that would mean setting up a web camera in the bedroom ...


ROTFLBTC.

THAT ain't happening!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


Hi John

Here that would mean setting up a web camera in the bedroom ...

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 04/05 5:39 am >>>

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live". 

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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 07:52:19 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:52:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <aea6c495050405055257cda603@mail.gmail.com>

Congratulations John and pass that sentiment along to Mary too. My dad
was 54 when I was born. He retired when I was about 12 so we were able
to spend more time together than a lot of other kids did with their
dads. My brother and I toasted him on what would have been his 100th
birthday in 2003. He wasn't there in body having passed away a few
years before, but he was there in our memories and in spirit.  And in
spirits as we toasted him with his preferred brand of whiskey.

On Apr 4, 2005 10:39 PM, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
> many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
> kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
> when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
> Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.
> 
> The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
> will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
> weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
> (well, they ARE).
> 
> Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
> this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
> boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
> year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
> about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
> account <grin>.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
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> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From normkara at wans.net  Tue Apr  5 07:57:38 2005
From: normkara at wans.net (Norm)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:57:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
References: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
	<aea6c495050405055257cda603@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c539df$0f46de00$0200a8c0@NORMLAPTOP>

Congrtulations!!! and best of luck and health to you all!! But take it from 
a 50 year old grandpa that is raising a 4 year old and a 2 year old 
grandson - it is worth it - you will have fun and everything will come 
natural (except maybe the outsmarting part) you will never win at that LOL! 
Best of luck! And may you all get the best out of life!
Norm

> Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be 
> doing
> this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year 
> old
> boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
> year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
> about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
> account <grin>.




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  5 08:03:58 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:03:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
Message-ID: <s252a8ff.071@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

What areas would that be?

/gustav

>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 04/05 2:19 pm >>>
Yes, I'm working on a book. I haven't looked at VB Express yet. 

As to release date -- who knows? :( 

Unfortunately, in some areas it's not as powerful as MSDE was, but it
is
still an excellent, and free, solution for the small guys. 



From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us  Tue Apr  5 08:50:24 2005
From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:50:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D1703D507BA@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>

>>Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be
doing
this (or it feels that way anyway)<<
Congratulations JC and Mary,
Don't worry, those cute kids will keep you young in body and spirit.
Best to all! 

Ed Tesiny
EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us
 

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> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> John W. Colby
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:39 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
> 
> I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are 
> "going live".  As
> many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of 
> two of the cutest
> kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got 
> Robbie first,
> when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last 
> week.  We got
> Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  
> 
> The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, 
> both of them
> will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So 
> in less than 2
> weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest 
> kids on two legs
> (well, they ARE).
> 
> Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned 
> old to be doing
> this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up 
> with a 4 year old
> boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even 
> outsmarting a 4
> year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in 
> my company in
> about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding 
> my retirement
> account <grin>.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
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> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Apr  5 08:55:33 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:55:33 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374DD@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Yup, the cuecat. Thanks for the link.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:46 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Home inventory problem


Are you talking about the CueCat?  A quick Google showed me this little
gem:
http://www.cedmagic.com/cuecat/cuecat.html

I still have one of those in my dusty ol' junk boxes.  I'm definitely
going to try this out!

(...and the CueCat goes down in the annals of history as one of the
poorest conceived technology ventures.  Yeech!)


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Home inventory problem

He could scan the ISBN barcode. I remember we had a discussion once
(couple of years ago?) about a cheapo scanner that was being given away
free- I got one from Forbes magazine as I recall. There was a great hack
with code to allow one to scan into Access. Hey, if you're going off the
deep end why not go all the way?!
Jim Hale 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 2:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Home inventory problem


Gustav,

I'm sure he's considered the time needed. I once "inventoried" all the
books in our house by category. I didn't list them, I just counted them.
No way would I want to record even just the titles in a database. But my
friend seems reconciled to it.

Steve Erbach

On Apr 4, 2005 3:29 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Steve
> 
> Has he considered the time needed to "record" these things??
> 
> I once listed all my vinyl records in a nice database as I planned to 
> sell them as a collection. Quickly I realized the amount of typing 
> work and persuaded (bought) my daughter to do this for sweet daddy. 
> She did but I wasn't proud.
> 
> So your friend should consider if it wasn't a better idea to 
> listen/watch/read items from his collection rather than spending a 
> vast amount of time recording it. Unless, of
 as suggested - write a list in Word.
> 
> Oh, I didn't sell the records ...
> 
> /gustav

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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr  5 09:19:16 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:19:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <s2526b75.057@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7UKFAAAQAAAAeUFalovItkGiQFtV6QmKbAEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Please post the IP address so I can have it auto-blocked by my firewall!
;-) 


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life

Hi John

Here that would mean setting up a web camera in the bedroom ...

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 04/05 5:39 am >>>

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live". 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  5 09:23:04 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
In-Reply-To: <s252a8ff.071@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20050405142307.DXLZ2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Do you have it? If so, in BOL, do a search on "feature comparison" --
there's a good list of the differences. If you don't have it, I'll retype it
-- it's on another system that's not networked. 

Susan H. 

What areas would that be?

/gustav




From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr  5 09:28:25 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:28:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAWVdJ4mNWyE25lkPz8YTB6QEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

After the discussions we've had on Vonage and VOIP here I thought I'd better
post this. Just saw a report on TV about a fellow in Texas that tried to
call 911 while a breakin was occurring. Vonage doesn't do 911 in many places
and doesn't do enhanced 911 at all. Best to use you cell phone for that
then.

John B.


From jeff at boyes.net  Tue Apr  5 09:39:46 2005
From: jeff at boyes.net (Jeff Boyes)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:39:46 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7c
	KAAAAQAAAAWVdJ4mNWyE25lkPz8YTB6QEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAWVdJ4mNWyE25lkPz8YTB6QEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <64766.192.25.240.225.1112711986.squirrel@boyes.net>

John, et. al,

I agree.

I had Packet8, and now have Vonage, and I would have never considered
switching to any VoIP plan without keeping my cell phone for 911 calls.

I do have 911 dialing on my Vonage line, but it doesn't go to the local
city's 911 center.

Jeff


> After the discussions we've had on Vonage and VOIP here I thought I'd
> better
> post this. Just saw a report on TV about a fellow in Texas that tried to
> call 911 while a breakin was occurring. Vonage doesn't do 911 in many
> places
> and doesn't do enhanced 911 at all. Best to use you cell phone for that
> then.
>
> John B.



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  5 09:43:52 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:43:52 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
Message-ID: <s252c056.077@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

No I don't have it.
It is not this I'm thinking of:

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/2005/productinfo/sql2005features.asp 

- it's between 2005 Express and MSDE.

/gustav


>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 04/05 4:23 pm >>>
Do you have it? If so, in BOL, do a search on "feature comparison" --
there's a good list of the differences. If you don't have it, I'll
retype it
-- it's on another system that's not networked. 

Susan H. 

What areas would that be?

/gustav



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 10:26:19 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:26:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAWVdJ4mNWyE25lkPz8YTB6QEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAWVdJ4mNWyE25lkPz8YTB6QEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920504050826202741a0@mail.gmail.com>

On Apr 5, 2005 10:28 AM, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> After the discussions we've had on Vonage and VOIP here I thought I'd better
> post this. Just saw a report on TV about a fellow in Texas that tried to
> call 911 while a breakin was occurring. Vonage doesn't do 911 in many places
> and doesn't do enhanced 911 at all. Best to use you cell phone for that
> then.

Yep have a look at some of the news stories from CNet news.com
http://news.search.com/search?q=vonage+911&search.x=0&search.y=0

This one, http://news.com.com/Vonage+may+route+911+call+to+Congress%2C+FCC/2100-7352_3-5647706.html
is quite interesting.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr  5 11:02:54 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:02:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687395F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Well, you could trap the KeyDown event on that form and discard the
left, right up, down and pageup and pagedown keycodes, couldn't you?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts


How come clients always find buttons to press that the programmer didn't
think of?
 
I have a program for a chain of Sunbed Studios. Because the clients can
buy packages of "units of use" and have them in credit it is necessary
to give them a PIN No. as well as a Membership Number.
 
When they enter their Membership Number and press <Continue> a
popup/modal with one field, in password format, asks them to enter their
PIN. The only other thing on the form is <Continue>. Magically, it has
been discovered that if they press Left Arrow a box appears with their
Membership Number and, much worse, if they press Right Arrow the PIN
Number appears in clear.
 
I am now nearly bald!
 
Anyone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
 
TIA
 
Chris

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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Apr  5 11:03:12 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:03:12 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1FA@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS SQL
Server 7 as the backend.

The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching our CAL
limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I actually got
SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server may not
be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.

With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
functionality of SQL Server?
I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored procedures
and triggers.

Thanks!
JR





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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  5 11:47:04 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:47:04 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
Message-ID: <s252dd4c.079@cactus.dk>

Hi Joe

Three option pops forward:

SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL). 
Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.

Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain. 
Originates from InterBase.

PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS. 
Large user base.

It all depends on your requirements.

/gustav


>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
Hi All,

I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS
SQL
Server 7 as the backend.

The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
our CAL
limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I actually
got
SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
may not
be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.

With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
functionality of SQL Server?
I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
procedures
and triggers.

Thanks!
JR



From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Tue Apr  5 12:22:42 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:22:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F215@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

Also, do the pre-911 thing: post a list of the 7 digit equivalent emergency numbers next to your phones.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Boyes
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:40 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vonage and 911


John, et. al,

I agree.

I had Packet8, and now have Vonage, and I would have never considered
switching to any VoIP plan without keeping my cell phone for 911 calls.

I do have 911 dialing on my Vonage line, but it doesn't go to the local
city's 911 center.

Jeff


> After the discussions we've had on Vonage and VOIP here I thought I'd
> better
> post this. Just saw a report on TV about a fellow in Texas that tried to
> call 911 while a breakin was occurring. Vonage doesn't do 911 in many
> places
> and doesn't do enhanced 911 at all. Best to use you cell phone for that
> then.
>
> John B.

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From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Tue Apr  5 12:39:51 2005
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:39:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687395C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <00ee01c53a06$791aee30$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>

Darren:

Charlotte's right: you can't undo a subform from the parent using an Access
control. But... you can trick Access Forms by adding a Microsoft Common
Controls Toolbar to your form. When you click on an ActiveX control in a
form, it DOESN'T fire the usual Access events, so you can very likely get a
subform Undo to work, if you place the button in a Toolbar.

Although some members of this forum recommend against all ActiveX controls,
I've used this one for years with no real issues. It isn't as problemmatic
as some of the other ActiveX controls I've tangled with.

-Ken

PS. I have some really simple button icons for toolbars that dress it up
nicely, with out too much effort. Email me offline if you'd like a copy,
plus some basic instructions.


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform


You can't do it simply, Darren.  When you click the button on the parent
form, the subform record is saved automatically, so undo is no longer
available.  The way I have done this in the past is either with an
unbound subform which can be cleared, by deleting the subform record, or
by storing the current value of each field to the field's tag property
and then overwriting the new value if the decided to "undo."

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform


Hello all
This should be simple :-))

If I type me.undo and attach it to a button on a form I can undo edits
to a record.

If I have a main form that has a sub form in it and if I attach code
something like Forms!MyForm!MySubForm.Form.Undo to a button on the main
form with the intention of Undo-ing any edit to the sub form it doesn't
seem to work

How do I undo edits to a sub form from a button on the parent form??

Many thanks

Darren




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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 12:45:27 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:45:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
In-Reply-To: <s252dd4c.079@cactus.dk>
References: <s252dd4c.079@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <b874372a05040510452a21a0a0@mail.gmail.com>

According to Arthur's new book, MySQL 4 would suit you just fine 
(production) but version 5 does support stored procedures and from skimming 
over that chapter it looks fairly easy to manage that path.

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:56:07 -0500, Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> Our MySQL book is now up as a web site. (Our = Peter Brawley and Arthur
> Fuller). Visit http://www.artfulsoftware.com/ for a free download of
> sample chapters and a paid download of the remainder. I hope you enjoy
> what you read for free.
>
> Arthur

my 2 cents.

On Apr 5, 2005 9:47 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Joe
> 
> Three option pops forward:
> 
> SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL).
> Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.
> 
> Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain.
> Originates from InterBase.
> 
> PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS.
> Large user base.
> 
> It all depends on your requirements.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
> Hi All,
> 
> I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
> We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS
> SQL
> Server 7 as the backend.
> 
> The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
> our CAL
> limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I actually
> got
> SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
> The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
> may not
> be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.
> 
> With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
> functionality of SQL Server?
> I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
> procedures
> and triggers.
> 
> Thanks!
> JR
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr  5 12:49:02 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:49:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E27@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed but you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include management tools though AFAIK.

Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere else!!)

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?


Hi Joe

Three option pops forward:

SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL). 
Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.

Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain. 
Originates from InterBase.

PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS. 
Large user base.

It all depends on your requirements.

/gustav


>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
Hi All,

I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS
SQL
Server 7 as the backend.

The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
our CAL
limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I actually
got
SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
may not
be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.

With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
functionality of SQL Server?
I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
procedures
and triggers.

Thanks!
JR

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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Apr  5 12:54:32 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:54:32 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1FB@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Are you allowed to use the Express version in a production environment?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?

What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed but
you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include management
tools though AFAIK.

Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere else!!)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?


Hi Joe

Three option pops forward:

SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL).
Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.

Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain.
Originates from InterBase.

PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS.
Large user base.

It all depends on your requirements.

/gustav


>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
Hi All,

I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS
SQL
Server 7 as the backend.

The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
our CAL
limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I actually
got
SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
may not
be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.

With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
functionality of SQL Server?
I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
procedures
and triggers.

Thanks!
JR

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr  5 12:55:00 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:55:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access Seminars
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E28@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Let me just say that I've found the Advisor events to be excellent.  I'll be at the LV event unless our recent budget cuts do me in.  One admission lets you in to all four conferences but only includes materials from whichever you sign up for.

Most of the other events seem to be VB/.NET/SQL focused.  Access stuff is not that common AFAIK.

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:17 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Access Seminars



Does anyone know of any Access Seminar/conference being conducted this summer?
I know there is one in Las Vegas in June, sponsored by ADVISOR.  It's a five day conference titled "Technical Education on Microsoft Software" with four areas of focus:  (1) Access/VB/SQL, (2) .Net, (3) SharePoint, and (4) Visual FoxPro.  

Any others?

Thanks,
Jim






 



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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr  5 12:59:31 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:59:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E2A@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

>>Does anyone have any thoughts on the other problem - manually selecting all 
records with
the mouse<<

How about filtering the form so only a subset of data is available at a time?

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A


Ah, I knew there would be a simple solution - Thanks Lonnie.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the other problem - manually selecting all records with
the mouse, then copying them to the clipboard.  I don't want to disable 
Ctrl-C because it is useful elsewhere in the programme.  Is there a way to check if records are selected (any number of records - not just all of them)?

David

At 1/04/2005, Lonnie wrote:
>You could use the autokeys macro to override the control A and send a 
>msgbox saying "Can't do that"
>
>David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:AXP
>
>One of my users has discovered that by selecting Ctrl-A this will select
>all records. Then he can copy, open up Excel and paste all the records
>into a spreadsheet. However, because of the sensitive nature of the data,
>Management do not want the full database to be available this way.
>
>How can I disable Ctrl-A so that all records cannot be selected. I have
>already removed from my custom menu the option to Select all records but
>Ctrl-A still works.
>
>Of course there is still the problem of manually selecting all records with
>the mouse - any thoughts on this problem as well?
>
>Regards
>
>David Emerson
>Dalyn Software Ltd
>25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
>Wellington, New Zealand
>Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
>Mobile 027-280-9348

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  5 13:01:37 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:01:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
Message-ID: <s252eec2.082@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Oh, myy suggestions are only that - not an inclusive list.

/gustav

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/05 7:49 pm >>>
What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed
but you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include
management tools though AFAIK.

Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere
else!!)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?


Hi Joe

Three option pops forward:

SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL). 
Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.

Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain. 
Originates from InterBase.

PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS. 
Large user base.

It all depends on your requirements.

/gustav


>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
Hi All,

I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use
MS
SQL Server 7 as the backend.

The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
our CAL limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I
actually
got SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
may not be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.

With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
functionality of SQL Server?
I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
procedures and triggers.

Thanks!
JR



From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Apr  5 13:23:22 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 06:23:22 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E2A@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.co m>
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E2A@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050406061844.039b8eb0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks Jim,

Another good thought - I could just have the search boxes and show records 
as they match the criteria.  However the way we have solved it this time is 
to remove the record selectors.  Now with no record selectors, Ctrl-A being 
cancelled by Autokeys, and Select all records not appearing in the menu I 
think we have covered all bases.

David

At 6/04/2005, you wrote:
> >>Does anyone have any thoughts on the other problem - manually selecting 
> all
>records with
>the mouse<<
>
>How about filtering the form so only a subset of data is available at a time?
>
>HTH,
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:11 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A
>
>
>Ah, I knew there would be a simple solution - Thanks Lonnie.
>
>Does anyone have any thoughts on the other problem - manually selecting 
>all records with
>the mouse, then copying them to the clipboard.  I don't want to disable
>Ctrl-C because it is useful elsewhere in the programme.  Is there a way to 
>check if records are selected (any number of records - not just all of them)?
>
>David
>
>At 1/04/2005, Lonnie wrote:
> >You could use the autokeys macro to override the control A and send a
> >msgbox saying "Can't do that"
> >
> >David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:AXP
> >
> >One of my users has discovered that by selecting Ctrl-A this will select
> >all records. Then he can copy, open up Excel and paste all the records
> >into a spreadsheet. However, because of the sensitive nature of the data,
> >Management do not want the full database to be available this way.
> >
> >How can I disable Ctrl-A so that all records cannot be selected. I have
> >already removed from my custom menu the option to Select all records but
> >Ctrl-A still works.
> >
> >Of course there is still the problem of manually selecting all records with
> >the mouse - any thoughts on this problem as well?
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >David Emerson
> >Dalyn Software Ltd
> >25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
> >Wellington, New Zealand
> >Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
> >Mobile 027-280-9348



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  5 13:34:55 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:34:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
In-Reply-To: <s252c056.077@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20050405183458.OCIC2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

The biggest difference is in replication:

Configuring Distribution	Express: No	MSDE: Yes
Snapshot Publications		Express: No MSDE: Yes
Merge Publications		Express: No MSDE: Yes

Some replication features are available but only as a subscriber. 

No SQL Agent, which is a pia. :( 

On the other hand, Express isn't "optimized" :) 

There are more, but I can't think of them. 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

No I don't have it.
It is not this I'm thinking of:

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/2005/productinfo/sql2005features.asp 

- it's between 2005 Express and MSDE.

/gustav


>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 04/05 4:23 pm >>>
Do you have it? If so, in BOL, do a search on "feature comparison" --
there's a good list of the differences. If you don't have it, I'll retype it
-- it's on another system that's not networked. 

Susan H. 

What areas would that be?

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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Apr  5 13:42:17 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:42:17 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1FD@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

It appears that there is no notification service either!
JR


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:35 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express

The biggest difference is in replication:

Configuring Distribution        Express: No     MSDE: Yes
Snapshot Publications           Express: No MSDE: Yes
Merge Publications              Express: No MSDE: Yes

Some replication features are available but only as a subscriber.

No SQL Agent, which is a pia. :(

On the other hand, Express isn't "optimized" :)

There are more, but I can't think of them.

Susan H.

Hi Susan

No I don't have it.
It is not this I'm thinking of:

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/2005/productinfo/sql2005features.asp

- it's between 2005 Express and MSDE.

/gustav


>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 04/05 4:23 pm >>>
Do you have it? If so, in BOL, do a search on "feature comparison" --
there's a good list of the differences. If you don't have it, I'll retype it
-- it's on another system that's not networked.

Susan H.

What areas would that be?

/gustav

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From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Tue Apr  5 13:49:08 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:49:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ASP/SQL/Access job posting
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC04F37A@dewey.Symphony.local>

I hope this isn't too off topic, but here's a job posting.

Symphony Information Services is a custom software shop that has
historically done the vast majority of its development in Access.  But
similar to how the flavor of AccessD postings have evolved over the
years, we find ourselves spending increasingly more time with a web
work, which in turn leads to more SQL work.  So, we're hiring someone
whose primary skill set is in ASP.NET over SQL Server, but who still
have firm grip on Access.  

The job posting is at www.symphonyinfo.com/jobs/webdev.pdf.  Preference
will go to someone located in the Minneapolis / St. Paul area, due to
the tighter teamwork it provides, but I won't dismiss a remote options
out of hand.

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com



From jeff at boyes.net  Tue Apr  5 13:52:55 2005
From: jeff at boyes.net (Jeff Boyes)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:52:55 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
In-Reply-To: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F215@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F215@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <12220.192.25.240.225.1112727175.squirrel@boyes.net>


Great idea! Thanks.


> Also, do the pre-911 thing: post a list of the 7 digit equivalent
> emergency numbers next to your phones.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Boyes
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:40 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
>
>
> John, et. al,
>
> I agree.
>
> I had Packet8, and now have Vonage, and I would have never considered
> switching to any VoIP plan without keeping my cell phone for 911 calls.
>
> I do have 911 dialing on my Vonage line, but it doesn't go to the local
> city's 911 center.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>> After the discussions we've had on Vonage and VOIP here I thought I'd
>> better
>> post this. Just saw a report on TV about a fellow in Texas that tried to
>> call 911 while a breakin was occurring. Vonage doesn't do 911 in many
>> places
>> and doesn't do enhanced 911 at all. Best to use you cell phone for that
>> then.
>>
>> John B.



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr  5 14:51:43 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:51:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E2C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Just throwing it out there as another option Gustav.

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:02 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?


Hi Jim

Oh, myy suggestions are only that - not an inclusive list.

/gustav

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/05 7:49 pm >>>
What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed
but you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include
management tools though AFAIK.

Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere
else!!)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?


Hi Joe

Three option pops forward:

SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL). 
Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.

Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain. 
Originates from InterBase.

PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS. 
Large user base.

It all depends on your requirements.

/gustav


>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
Hi All,

I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use
MS
SQL Server 7 as the backend.

The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
our CAL limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I
actually
got SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
may not be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.

With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
functionality of SQL Server?
I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
procedures and triggers.

Thanks!
JR

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr  5 14:53:23 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:53:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E2D@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

I believe it's the replacement for MSDE so I'd guess yes.

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?


Are you allowed to use the Express version in a production environment?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?

What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed but
you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include management
tools though AFAIK.

Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere else!!)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?


Hi Joe

Three option pops forward:

SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL).
Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.

Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain.
Originates from InterBase.

PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS.
Large user base.

It all depends on your requirements.

/gustav


>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
Hi All,

I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS
SQL
Server 7 as the backend.

The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
our CAL
limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I actually
got
SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
may not
be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.

With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
functionality of SQL Server?
I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
procedures
and triggers.

Thanks!
JR

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  5 16:29:26 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:29:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] AXP fails to install
References: <105.5e3c27f0.2f83a166@aol.com>
Message-ID: <42530336.6060002@shaw.ca>

My guess is you have differing english language versions than standard US
Here are some hints to get you started.

There is an an SP3 but it mostly security updates
Office XP Service Pack 3 (SP3)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=85af7bfd-6f69-4289-8bd1-eb966bcdfb5e&displaylang=en

Office XP Developer Edition Service Pack 1
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a5272cd8-72b4-4a23-8c21-2d8569e102c0&DisplayLang=en

Packaging Wizard Patch Office XP
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=f0f245fd-184c-4125-afb7-3c48e2607f99&DisplayLang=en

These patches above may fix

Office Developers pack SP1  and wizard patch is supposed to fix this
 as a workaround you can set
your regional settings on the target PC to US  when installing.
then boot,  install package, boot,  reset to original language,
run package.


When you create the installation package
a file called setup.lst is created. There is a locale ID defined in here
which I found to be 1033 (English - US).
If you were to change this to English - UK  Number: 2057
or what ever version of english you are using then
it might work
.
Another way

1) Change the regional settings to English US.


2) Manually run "osp.msi" which is included in the runtime directory
of the deployment cd. This effectively upgrades the users machine in
the same way  that the installation routine should.  After the osp.msi
file has installed, you can then run the setup routine again and the
fault will not occur.

SageKey scripts handles these problems,
http://www.sagekey.com

 as it can get more complicated
with installations with multilanguage packs with windows (allows US 
version of Windows to run Japanese which is different than Japanese 
Version of windows)
and office.



JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com wrote:

>Hi List
> 
>I've a runtime AXP db with WinXP SP1 and Office standard with SP2 which  have 
>been working fine for weeks on 6 workstations running w2k. We buy 2 new  pc's 
>with WinXP SP2 and now setup gives the message.
>
>"The Office System  Pack cannot be installed on this system because the 
>languages are not the same.  Install the Office System Pack for the appropriate 
>language on your computer.  For assistance, contact your application provider."
> 
>Its not true, on the face of it. The languages are the same. I  installed 
>WInXP SP2 on the 
>developer pc with no joy. I've   installed Office XP developer on the pc in 
>question logged on Administrator  run the runtime setup with same error 
>message. I even ran the package wizard  over Northwind db and tried to install it. No 
>change. I'm stuck,  suggestions please.
>
>It there a registry setting that controlling the  job?
>
>regards and TIA
>johnb
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  5 17:08:02 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:08:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E27@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <42530C42.80603@shaw.ca>

The EM Tools came out a little later. Works with December release of 
Beta SQL Express 2005.

Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Manager - Community Technology Preview 
December 2004
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8f92556a-6c3b-47d2-9929-ecdc5a4d25ae&DisplayLang=en

The SAP DB or MaxDB is being supported by SAP Labs Berlin either 
purchased or newsgroup 24 hour turnaround.
It is really an old ADABAS database code fork upgraded.. A .Net oledb 
provider is supposed to be in the works.
I guess who ever writes it wants paid for the effort.
Otherwise ODBC.

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed but you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include management tools though AFAIK.
>
>Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere else!!)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
>
>
>Hi Joe
>
>Three option pops forward:
>
>SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL). 
>Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.
>
>Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain. 
>Originates from InterBase.
>
>PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS. 
>Large user base.
>
>It all depends on your requirements.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
>>>>JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>Hi All,
>
>I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
>We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS
>SQL
>Server 7 as the backend.
>
>The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
>our CAL
>limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I actually
>got
>SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
>The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
>may not
>be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.
>
>With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
>functionality of SQL Server?
>I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
>procedures
>and triggers.
>
>Thanks!
>JR
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada




From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 17:35:22 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:35:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
In-Reply-To: <12220.192.25.240.225.1112727175.squirrel@boyes.net>
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F215@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
	<12220.192.25.240.225.1112727175.squirrel@boyes.net>
Message-ID: <b874372a05040515353f95c861@mail.gmail.com>

I'm sure you know that what happend in Texas not dialing out the 911 was due 
to user error. When you sign up for Vonage you must register your locality 
so that 911 calls can be routed. The person in the story failed to do 
that... as we know in our line of work it was a pebkac.


On Apr 5, 2005 11:52 AM, Jeff Boyes <jeff at boyes.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Great idea! Thanks.
> 
> 
> > Also, do the pre-911 thing: post a list of the 7 digit equivalent
> > emergency numbers next to your phones.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Boyes
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:40 AM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
> >
> >
> > John, et. al,
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > I had Packet8, and now have Vonage, and I would have never considered
> > switching to any VoIP plan without keeping my cell phone for 911 calls.
> >
> > I do have 911 dialing on my Vonage line, but it doesn't go to the local
> > city's 911 center.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> >> After the discussions we've had on Vonage and VOIP here I thought I'd
> >> better
> >> post this. Just saw a report on TV about a fellow in Texas that tried 
> to
> >> call 911 while a breakin was occurring. Vonage doesn't do 911 in many
> >> places
> >> and doesn't do enhanced 911 at all. Best to use you cell phone for that
> >> then.
> >>
> >> John B.
> 
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From JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com  Tue Apr  5 17:36:53 2005
From: JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com (JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:36:53 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] AXP fails to install
Message-ID: <64.526d3609.2f846d05@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 05/04/2005 22:34:11 GMT Daylight Time,  
martyconnelly at shaw.ca writes:

My guess  is you have differing english language versions than standard US
Here are  some hints to get you started.

There is an an SP3 but it mostly  security updates
Office XP Service Pack 3  (SP3)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=85af7bfd-6f69-4289-8b
d1-eb966bcdfb5e&displaylang=en

Office  XP Developer Edition Service Pack  1
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a5272cd8-72b4-4a23-8c
21-2d8569e102c0&DisplayLang=en

Packaging  Wizard Patch Office  XP
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=f0f245fd-184c-4125-af
b7-3c48e2607f99&DisplayLang=en

These  patches above may fix

Office Developers pack SP1  and wizard patch  is supposed to fix this
as a workaround you can set
your regional  settings on the target PC to US  when installing.
then boot,   install package, boot,  reset to original language,
run  package.


When you create the installation package
a file called  setup.lst is created. There is a locale ID defined in here
which I found to  be 1033 (English - US).
If you were to change this to English - UK   Number: 2057
or what ever version of english you are using then
it might  work
.
Another way

1) Change the regional settings to English  US.


2) Manually run "osp.msi" which is included in the runtime  directory
of the deployment cd. This effectively upgrades the users machine  in
the same way  that the installation routine should.  After the  osp.msi
file has installed, you can then run the setup routine again and  the
fault will not occur.

SageKey scripts handles these  problems,
http://www.sagekey.com

as it can get more  complicated
with installations with multilanguage packs with windows  (allows US 
version of Windows to run Japanese which is different than  Japanese 
Version of windows)
and  office.




Cheers Marty and thanx for the pointers.


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  5 17:37:15 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:37:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
In-Reply-To: <42530C42.80603@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <20050405223718.BNQM2051.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

There's almost nothing in them, but it does exist. ;) 

Susan H. 

The EM Tools came out a little later. Works with December release of Beta
SQL Express 2005.

Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Manager - Community Technology Preview
December 2004
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8f92556a-6c3b-47d2-
9929-ecdc5a4d25ae&DisplayLang=en

The SAP DB or MaxDB is being supported by SAP Labs Berlin either purchased
or newsgroup 24 hour turnaround.
It is really an old ADABAS database code fork upgraded.. A .Net oledb
provider is supposed to be in the works.
I guess who ever writes it wants paid for the effort.
Otherwise ODBC.

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed but
you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include management
tools though AFAIK.
>
>Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere 
>else!!)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
>
>
>Hi Joe
>
>Three option pops forward:
>
>SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL). 
>Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.
>
>Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain. 
>Originates from InterBase.
>
>PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS. 
>Large user base.
>
>It all depends on your requirements.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
>>>>JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>Hi All,
>
>I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
>We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS 
>SQL Server 7 as the backend.
>
>The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching 
>our CAL limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I 
>actually got SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
>The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server 
>may not be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.
>
>With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the 
>functionality of SQL Server?
>I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored 
>procedures and triggers.
>
>Thanks!
>JR
>
>  
>

--
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada


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From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Tue Apr  5 18:04:02 2005
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:04:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
In-Reply-To: <s252c056.077@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <010001c53a33$c2b40d10$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


>From the site Marty suggested:

"How does SQL Server 2005 Express compare to MSDE?"

http://www.aspfaq.com/sql2005/show.asp?id=8

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 9:44 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express


Hi Susan

No I don't have it.
It is not this I'm thinking of:

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/2005/productinfo/sql2005features.asp 

- it's between 2005 Express and MSDE.

/gustav


>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 04/05 4:23 pm >>>
Do you have it? If so, in BOL, do a search on "feature comparison" --
there's a good list of the differences. If you don't have it, I'll
retype it
-- it's on another system that's not networked. 

Susan H. 

What areas would that be?

/gustav






From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 18:28:05 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:28:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Upsize wizard MDB to SQL
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B59A8@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B59A8@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <b874372a05040516286496cdd7@mail.gmail.com>

You can't migrate the FE to SQL Server per say, IIRC I guess that would be 
and ADP upgrade so that Access looks and reacts kinda like the Access we all 
know and hate ;). I think it was Arthur who would say this, you want to 
first take all your listboxes and combo boxes and make "TRUE" queries for 
their sources rather than the select statment currently lying in there... if 
you do not the upgrade wizard creates it's ow w/ some funky GUIDs for 
names... 

If you want to continue using the MDB as an FE then you won't need to change 
very much.. .in fact you can take it in phases... first create some VIEWs to 
feed the table links, and then eventually write your own passthrough queries 
so that you can leverage the power of your sql server db.

I hope this gives you a good starting point.



On Apr 5, 2005 5:04 AM, Erwin Craps - IT Helps <Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> I need to migrate a MDB front and back to SQL server.
> 
> I tried the both the upsize wizard in MSA2K3 and the import wizard from
> SQL server 2000.
> But I found out that a lot of stuff are not migrated and renders the
> application in a non useable state.
> In some cases all the queries are missing, or primary keys and relations
> are not set, to much various things missing to verify manualy.
> 
> I wonder if a commercial tool exists to do a better upsize that will
> leave my database in a more or less workable state?
> 
> Personaly I would prefer a parralel migration.
> 
> All data in sql server, still using the regular front end but linked
> tables to sql and first migrate my IIS-ASP website to .NET and later on
> the (multiple) front end MDB.
> 
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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  5 18:47:55 2005
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:47:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050405234756.64019.qmail@web41105.mail.yahoo.com>

Susan, 
 
Apologies for what appears to be a late reply but when I send my emails, you are asleep, I presume , and when you send yours I'm in the land of nod.
 
When I was told about the problem I checked my master program and horror, it was true.
 
Just a little more background info. If the client says they have used the facility before the program goes to frmCustomers and asks them to enter either their Membership Number or their Name. When they enter one or the other the form brings up all their details. They press <Continue> and the popup/modal form frmEnterPIN is displayed.
The form has a textbox "Please enter your PIN", a box for them to enter it and a <Continue> button. Nothing else! 
The Record Source is qryCustomers and the Filter is on Membership Number.
However, if you press the Right Arrow, a sunken box appears on the left showing their Membership Number. No problem! However, press the Left Arrow and a ditto box appears on the right showing the PIN Number in clear even though it is stored in the BE as password/asterisks. Continuous pressing of either arrow just tabs between the blank box, the Membership Number and the PIN. No other field from the record is shown.
 
Charlotte, 
 
I would love to trap the KeyDown event on the form and discard the left, right up, down and pageup and pagedown keycodes! How?
 
Chris
 
 

		
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  5 19:10:29 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:10:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
References: <20050405223718.BNQM2051.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <425328F5.9060305@shaw.ca>

Maybe due to the switch from SQL-DMO to SQL-SMO which the old EM is based on

http://www.windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=40993&DisplayTab=Article

http://www.sql-server-express.com/index.html

Series of 5 or 6 Articles on using SQL-SMO with Express
example code in VBScript VB.Net C#.Net
So you could easily translate VBScript to Access VBA
list at bottom of article
http://www.sqldbatips.com/showarticle.asp?ID=34
Along with this is a command utility for SQL maintenance ExpressMaint 
Utility
http://www.sqldbatips.com/showarticle.asp?ID=29
 

Susan Harkins wrote:

>There's almost nothing in them, but it does exist. ;) 
>
>Susan H. 
>
>The EM Tools came out a little later. Works with December release of Beta
>SQL Express 2005.
>
>Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Manager - Community Technology Preview
>December 2004
>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8f92556a-6c3b-47d2-
>9929-ecdc5a4d25ae&DisplayLang=en
>
>The SAP DB or MaxDB is being supported by SAP Labs Berlin either purchased
>or newsgroup 24 hour turnaround.
>It is really an old ADABAS database code fork upgraded.. A .Net oledb
>provider is supposed to be in the works.
>I guess who ever writes it wants paid for the effort.
>Otherwise ODBC.
>
>Jim DeMarco wrote:
>
>  
>
>>What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed but
>>    
>>
>you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include management
>tools though AFAIK.
>  
>
>>Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere 
>>else!!)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
>>
>>
>>Hi Joe
>>
>>Three option pops forward:
>>
>>SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL). 
>>Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.
>>
>>Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain. 
>>Originates from InterBase.
>>
>>PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS. 
>>Large user base.
>>
>>It all depends on your requirements.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
>>We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS 
>>SQL Server 7 as the backend.
>>
>>The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching 
>>our CAL limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I 
>>actually got SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
>>The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server 
>>may not be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.
>>
>>With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the 
>>functionality of SQL Server?
>>I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored 
>>procedures and triggers.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>JR
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>
>  
>

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Canada




From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Tue Apr  5 19:24:22 2005
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:24:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050406061844.039b8eb0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <001601c53a3e$fb7d6690$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


David,

>Is there a way to check if records are selected
>(any number of records - not just all of them)?

You can always use the Form's SelHeight property:

    If Me.SelHeight = 1 Then
        ' User has selected a single row
    ...

That way, when you trap Ctrl-C, you could allow it for one row, but not
many. You can then allow record selectors, if your users find them useful.

-Ken

PS: Be sure to disable any shortcut (right-click) menus by setting the
Shortcut Menu property to No, or providing your own shortcut menu that
either excludes Cut & Copy, or replaces them with a calls to your custom
functions.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Emerson [mailto:newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A


Thanks Jim,

Another good thought - I could just have the search boxes and show records
as they match the criteria.  However the way we have solved it this time is
to remove the record selectors.  Now with no record selectors, Ctrl-A being
cancelled by Autokeys, and Select all records not appearing in the menu I
think we have covered all bases.

David






From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr  5 19:54:08 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:54:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
In-Reply-To: <20050405234756.64019.qmail@web41105.mail.yahoo.com>
References: 6667
Message-ID: <4253BFD0.15135.1336E8E7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 5 Apr 2005 at 16:47, Chris Enright wrote:

> Just a little more background info. If the client says they have used the facility before the
> program goes to frmCustomers and asks them to enter either their Membership Number or their
> Name. When they enter one or the other the form brings up all their details. They press
> <Continue> and the popup/modal form frmEnterPIN is displayed.
> The form has a textbox "Please enter your PIN", a box for them to enter it and a <Continue>
> button. Nothing else! 
> The Record Source is qryCustomers and the Filter is on Membership Number.
> However, if you press the Right Arrow, a sunken box appears on the left showing their Membership
> Number. No problem! However, press the Left Arrow and a ditto box appears on the right showing
> the PIN Number in clear even though it is stored in the BE as password/asterisks. Continuous
> pressing of either arrow just tabs between the blank box, the Membership Number and the PIN. No
> other field from the record is shown.
>  

You've got me intrigued.

Impossible to say what is happening without a closer look. Can you copy 
frmCustomers and frmEnterPIN into a blank database and put is somewhere 
accessible for download or email me a copy.  



-- 
Stuart




From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Apr  5 20:25:45 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:25:45 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A
In-Reply-To: <001601c53a3e$fb7d6690$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050406061844.039b8eb0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<001601c53a3e$fb7d6690$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050406132424.03388b80@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks Ken - that was the answer I was looking for.

David

At 6/04/2005, you wrote:

>David,
>
> >Is there a way to check if records are selected
> >(any number of records - not just all of them)?
>
>You can always use the Form's SelHeight property:
>
>     If Me.SelHeight = 1 Then
>         ' User has selected a single row
>     ...
>
>That way, when you trap Ctrl-C, you could allow it for one row, but not
>many. You can then allow record selectors, if your users find them useful.
>
>-Ken
>
>PS: Be sure to disable any shortcut (right-click) menus by setting the
>Shortcut Menu property to No, or providing your own shortcut menu that
>either excludes Cut & Copy, or replaces them with a calls to your custom
>functions.



From shait at mindspring.com  Tue Apr  5 23:19:55 2005
From: shait at mindspring.com (Stephen Hait)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:19:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <42531D1B.12344.6D21158@localhost>


> I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going
> live".  

Great news, John. I'm yet another 'older dad' at 53 and am 
raising, with my wife, a lovely 3 year old daughter we adopted 
when she was 5 months. All the best of luck with the adoption 
procedure and the bit about your 4 year old padding your 
retirement account!

Regards,
Stephen
Stephen Hait <shait at mindspring.com>
Text mail preferred over HTML mail if possible



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr  6 03:42:27 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:42:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A
Message-ID: <s253bd31.084@cactus.dk>

Hi Ken

And with Me.SelTop you can even move the record selector (current
record) up and down ...

/gustav

>>> KIsmert at TexasSystems.com 04/06 2:24 am >>>

David,

>Is there a way to check if records are selected
>(any number of records - not just all of them)?

You can always use the Form's SelHeight property:

    If Me.SelHeight = 1 Then
        ' User has selected a single row
    ...

That way, when you trap Ctrl-C, you could allow it for one row, but
not
many. You can then allow record selectors, if your users find them
useful.

-Ken

PS: Be sure to disable any shortcut (right-click) menus by setting the
Shortcut Menu property to No, or providing your own shortcut menu that
either excludes Cut & Copy, or replaces them with a calls to your
custom
functions.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Emerson [mailto:newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A


Thanks Jim,

Another good thought - I could just have the search boxes and show
records
as they match the criteria.  However the way we have solved it this
time is
to remove the record selectors.  Now with no record selectors, Ctrl-A
being
cancelled by Autokeys, and Select all records not appearing in the menu
I
think we have covered all bases.

David



From gould.j at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  6 06:29:19 2005
From: gould.j at earthlink.net (J Gould)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:29:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1DJ8iv-0001V9-00@pop-a065d01.pas.sa.earthlink.net>

Steve,

I may be a bit late on this, but if the fields for his collections are
basically the same, then use a master form that is not tied to any
particular database. Then use SQL to populate a view form. I did this with a
program several years ago where we had two databases of programs that were
being run on a mainframe. It tracked the ownership, description of what the
programs did, when the programs were run and other details. It takes a bit
of work, but it eliminates a ton of redundant programming for each tab (in
this case). The main form is like a switchboard that the user would select
the table they want to see. The view form is then loaded based on sql from a
hidden field on the switchboard. What's nice about doing this, is once you
have the basics down on it, its very easy to create a search form that
allows you to filter the records returned on the view form. Also, then one
or two reports are all that's needed based again on the sql used to display
the view form. Although the initial programming may take a bit longer, you
save a ton of time by not having to reinvent the wheel at every turn.

Hth

John Gould


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 8:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem

Dear Group,

A friend who's pretty sharp on computers (PHP development and a fair
amount of VB.NET) asked me to help him figure out a way to handle his
home inventory. He has LPs, Books, video cassettes, etc., half a dozen
different categories in all of things he wants to record in tables. So
far he's made an individual collection table for each type of item:
Books, LPs, Videos, etc.

His question was how to make a master table that had common
information in it -- purchase date, purchase price, location in house,
and category. He was also trying to figure out a way to have a big
master form, perhaps with a tab object, and subforms for all the
tables containing his collections.

I admit that I was a bit stumped. It's easy enough to determine that
the master table should have, say, an AutoNumber key field for each
item in his entire home inventory and that the individual item tables
would link to the master through a foreign key or simply with a Long
Integer field containing the Master key. But there would be a
one-to-one link between the master and the collection tables.

But what he'd like to do is see multiple rows for each of his
collection items at the same time. This implies that the subforms
would NOT be linked to the master. If they WERE linked to the master,
then only ONE item from ONE collection table would show up.

Have you lot ever tried something like this? His notion is that if the
Master table contains the location for each item then he can easily
query the master to find all the items in, say, the upstairs closet.
But then creating a report or a query might be a struggle since he
could conceivably have items from six different collections in that
closet...or only four of the collections.

I think you get the drift. Each collection has enough unique
information that keeping the items in separate tables makes sense, but
pulling all the information together to make an inventory valuation
might be a chore. Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Wed Apr  6 07:01:51 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:01:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F25@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F25@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30504060501511f7a2@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

Et tu, Brute? My God! I'm surrounded by flower children!

Steve Erbach

On Apr 4, 2005 3:40 PM, Jim Hewson <JHewson at karta.com> wrote:
> They do have a point though.
> Sometimes the simplest or non-technical solution is the best.
> I have spent hours - days - no weeks on a database and gave it to the customer.  Only to have them decide it's too much work to enter the data and maintain.  So the database became a throw-away sample.  At least I got paid for it... besides as Rocky suggested - there can be a fun side of doing things.
> 
> Jim H.
>


From erbachs at gmail.com  Wed Apr  6 07:03:14 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:03:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374DB@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374DB@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305040605036c38ca88@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

Why not! I wonder if there's something like CDDB for ISBN numbers?

Steve Erbach

On Apr 4, 2005 4:01 PM, Hale, Jim <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:
> He could scan the ISBN barcode. I remember we had a discussion once (couple
> of years ago?) about a cheapo scanner that was being given away free- I got
> one from Forbes magazine as I recall. There was a great hack with code to
> allow one to scan into Access. Hey, if you're going off the deep end why not
> go all the way?!
> Jim Hale


From erbachs at gmail.com  Wed Apr  6 07:08:56 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:08:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <E1DJ8iv-0001V9-00@pop-a065d01.pas.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<E1DJ8iv-0001V9-00@pop-a065d01.pas.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305040605084bb5594@mail.gmail.com>

John,

This is more like it! No, you're not too late. I'm just surrounded by
San Francisco flower children in a marijuana haze!

I'm not sure how similar the bits of data are that my friend is
recording. I suppose that your method could also, quite simply, hide
one subform and show another.

Thanks,

Steve Erbach

On Apr 6, 2005 6:29 AM, J Gould <gould.j at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> I may be a bit late on this, but if the fields for his collections are
> basically the same, then use a master form that is not tied to any
> particular database. Then use SQL to populate a view form. I did this with a
> program several years ago where we had two databases of programs that were
> being run on a mainframe. It tracked the ownership, description of what the
> programs did, when the programs were run and other details. It takes a bit
> of work, but it eliminates a ton of redundant programming for each tab (in
> this case). The main form is like a switchboard that the user would select
> the table they want to see. The view form is then loaded based on sql from a
> hidden field on the switchboard. What's nice about doing this, is once you
> have the basics down on it, its very easy to create a search form that
> allows you to filter the records returned on the view form. Also, then one
> or two reports are all that's needed based again on the sql used to display
> the view form. Although the initial programming may take a bit longer, you
> save a ton of time by not having to reinvent the wheel at every turn.
> 
> Hth
> 
> John Gould


From gould.j at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  6 08:09:12 2005
From: gould.j at earthlink.net (J Gould)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:09:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f305040605084bb5594@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1DJAHb-00065O-00@pop-a065d01.pas.sa.earthlink.net>

IF the subform were also based on a query then why hide it at all. The data
changes based on the table selected in the query. The query here is what
would change, the subform would simply bring up data based on it. The trick
is to have the PK the same in all tables ... an autonumber field that
basically means nothing to anyone but the database.

Good luck with it !

John Gould

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 8:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Home inventory problem

John,

This is more like it! No, you're not too late. I'm just surrounded by
San Francisco flower children in a marijuana haze!

I'm not sure how similar the bits of data are that my friend is
recording. I suppose that your method could also, quite simply, hide
one subform and show another.

Thanks,

Steve Erbach

On Apr 6, 2005 6:29 AM, J Gould <gould.j at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> I may be a bit late on this, but if the fields for his collections are
> basically the same, then use a master form that is not tied to any
> particular database. Then use SQL to populate a view form. I did this with
a
> program several years ago where we had two databases of programs that were
> being run on a mainframe. It tracked the ownership, description of what
the
> programs did, when the programs were run and other details. It takes a bit
> of work, but it eliminates a ton of redundant programming for each tab (in
> this case). The main form is like a switchboard that the user would select
> the table they want to see. The view form is then loaded based on sql from
a
> hidden field on the switchboard. What's nice about doing this, is once you
> have the basics down on it, its very easy to create a search form that
> allows you to filter the records returned on the view form. Also, then one
> or two reports are all that's needed based again on the sql used to
display
> the view form. Although the initial programming may take a bit longer, you
> save a ton of time by not having to reinvent the wheel at every turn.
> 
> Hth
> 
> John Gould
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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Wed Apr  6 08:29:35 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:29:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Custom mouse cursor
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D10@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

I need a custom mouse cursor at one point in my A2K application running on Win2K. I am trying to set the cursor using the LoadCursorFromFile api call in the click event of a command button. It does load the cursor, but it is instantly reset to the default cursor.

I can force the issue by calling LoadCursorFromFile in the MouseMove event. However this results in, of course, poor performance and horrible flickering. I tried this more as an experiment, it's unworkable as a solution.

Does anyone know how to make this work, or have another solution to using a custom mouse cursor?

Neal


From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Apr  6 09:32:12 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:32:12 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
In-Reply-To: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D10@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F984E20E85EAEF7440053DD23D0@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to learn 
Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are tutorials or 
something)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr

I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just said 
Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited in 
what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.

If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what direction 
would you send them?

Thanks Again,

Mark A. Matte




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr  6 09:36:53 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:36:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F984E20E85EAEF7440053DD23D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20050406143655.DERN2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, a lot depends on the current level. 

Does he have any prior database experience?  
Will he be using wizards and not really need to understand normalization and
other database generalities?

Susan H. 


Hello All,

A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to learn
Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are tutorials or
something)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr

I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just said
Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited in
what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.

If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what direction
would you send them?

Thanks Again,

Mark A. Matte


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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Wed Apr  6 09:40:49 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:40:49 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225801@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Step number 1, join this list. Start a random project, and bug people until
you make sense of it.

I learned everything by trial and error, and listening to the several gurus
we have here. IMO, there's just no better way to push yourself.

;D

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 06 April 2005 15:32
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access


Hello All,

A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to learn

Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are tutorials or 
something)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr

I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just said

Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited in 
what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.

If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what direction 
would you send them?

Thanks Again,

Mark A. Matte


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  6 09:47:34 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:47:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How to learn Access


Step number 1, join this list. Start a random project, and bug people until
you make sense of it.

I learned everything by trial and error, and listening to the several gurus
we have here. IMO, there's just no better way to push yourself.

;D

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 06 April 2005 15:32
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access


Hello All,

A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to learn

Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are tutorials or 
something)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr

I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just said

Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited in 
what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.

If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what direction 
would you send them?

Thanks Again,

Mark A. Matte


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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Wed Apr  6 09:48:01 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:48:01 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C66C@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

OMG! You did that as well then Roz ;-)

Chris Foote

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:41 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] How to learn Access
> 
> 
> Step number 1, join this list. Start a random project, and 
> bug people until
> you make sense of it.
> 
> I learned everything by trial and error, and listening to the 
> several gurus
> we have here. IMO, there's just no better way to push yourself.
> 
> ;D
> 


From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Apr  6 10:19:29 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:19:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F984E20E85EAEF7440053DD23D0@phx.gbl>
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D10@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
	<BAY103-F984E20E85EAEF7440053DD23D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <aea6c49505040608195cf3b668@mail.gmail.com>

Depends on the person. Depends on their level of experience with
computers in general and other software tools such as Excel and or
Word. Is it a developer type person? Have they done other programming
before so they would be not uncomfortable looking at VB code modules?
Are they familiar with relational database concepts? How do they like
to learn? Do they like to be in a classroom environment or do they
prefer to learn on their own? What do they intend to do with the
knowledge after they get it? Are they going to create a full blown
application or are they just going to use it as another Office tool in
their bag of tricks?   How much time do they have to pick up these
skills?

The training info from the links look like they would probably work
well for a lot of people. $80 for the two of them though?  That's a
pretty big investment. I'd try the first before grabbing them both.
Depending on the person, something like an Access for Dummies book you
could get on Amazon for $15 would be a lot cheaper and might serve
just as good though. As evidenced by the activities on this list,
NOBODY knows everything there is to know about Access. You just need
to get to the level of knowledge where you know enough to get your
project done and where to go to look for the answers that you don't
know which you will bump up against pretty often.



On Apr 6, 2005 9:32 AM, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to learn
> Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are tutorials or
> something)
> 
> http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr
> 
> http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr
> 
> I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just said
> Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited in
> what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.
> 
> If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what direction
> would you send them?
> 
> Thanks Again,
> 
> Mark A. Matte
> 
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Wed Apr  6 10:27:34 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:27:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225801@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
References: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225801@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050406082732df07ee@mail.gmail.com>

Roz,

I call that the "frog dissection" method: open that puppy up and poke
around with your scalpel and an electricified wire until something
jumps.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On Apr 6, 2005 9:40 AM, Roz Clarke <roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk> wrote:
> Step number 1, join this list. Start a random project, and bug people until
> you make sense of it.
> 
> I learned everything by trial and error, and listening to the several gurus
> we have here. IMO, there's just no better way to push yourself.
> 
> ;D


From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Apr  6 10:26:30 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:26:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F3F@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

I concur...
This list is an absolute must!

When I started with Access, I had experience with dBase III and Clipper.  I had taken graduate level courses on software development, database design and management, and system analysis.  
I decided to take an Access course. I didn't learn much.  The instructor didn't know about normalization and when asked about it, said it wasn't needed with Access.  When I asked about a particular problem I had, he recommended I take a VB6 course.  I was not impressed!

A few years ago, I was asked by the director of one of our departments to recommend a company that can train some employees in Access. I found a small upstart company that does a good job for neophytes.  Their text books were good and can be used for reference after the course. 
Sample databases were included in the course which each student could take with them and practice.  They purchased copyrighted materials from customguide.com.

Since then (with their permission and a small fee) I have used their textbooks and materials to teach the course to our clients.  What impressed our client was our company name on the materials!  

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How to learn Access


Step number 1, join this list. Start a random project, and bug people until
you make sense of it.

I learned everything by trial and error, and listening to the several gurus
we have here. IMO, there's just no better way to push yourself.

;D

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 06 April 2005 15:32
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access


Hello All,

A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to learn

Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are tutorials or 
something)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr

I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just said

Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited in 
what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.

If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what direction 
would you send them?

Thanks Again,

Mark A. Matte


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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Apr  6 10:59:38 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:59:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Custom mouse cursor
In-Reply-To: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D10@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D10@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <b874372a05040608591210a856@mail.gmail.com>

I use DevAshish's api, it works great.
http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0044.htm

On Apr 6, 2005 6:29 AM, Neal Kling <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us> wrote:
> 
> I need a custom mouse cursor at one point in my A2K application running on 
> Win2K. I am trying to set the cursor using the LoadCursorFromFile api call 
> in the click event of a command button. It does load the cursor, but it is 
> instantly reset to the default cursor.
> 
> I can force the issue by calling LoadCursorFromFile in the MouseMove 
> event. However this results in, of course, poor performance and horrible 
> flickering. I tried this more as an experiment, it's unworkable as a 
> solution.
> 
> Does anyone know how to make this work, or have another solution to using 
> a custom mouse cursor?
> 
> Neal
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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Wed Apr  6 11:39:04 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:39:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Custom mouse cursor
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F220@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

That's exactly what I'm using.

For what it's worth I get the same results on another similarly configured computer as well.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 12:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Custom mouse cursor


I use DevAshish's api, it works great.
http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0044.htm

On Apr 6, 2005 6:29 AM, Neal Kling <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us> wrote:
> 
> I need a custom mouse cursor at one point in my A2K application running on 
> Win2K. I am trying to set the cursor using the LoadCursorFromFile api call 
> in the click event of a command button. It does load the cursor, but it is 
> instantly reset to the default cursor.
> 
> I can force the issue by calling LoadCursorFromFile in the MouseMove 
> event. However this results in, of course, poor performance and horrible 
> flickering. I tried this more as an experiment, it's unworkable as a 
> solution.
> 
> Does anyone know how to make this work, or have another solution to using 
> a custom mouse cursor?
> 
> Neal
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From kathryn at bassett.net  Wed Apr  6 11:47:29 2005
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:47:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
In-Reply-To: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C66C@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20050406164737.5C95040075@omta18.mta.everyone.net>

That's what I did too. The only experience I'd had with databases was in flat files (AppleWorks on Apple II, and SuperWorks, its PC equivalent). I had only a vague concept of how relational databases worked. I used this list and Steve's "frog dissection" method and feel pretty comfortable now, even though I am not a power Access user (fortunately, I don't need to be).

--
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Foote, Chris
> Sent: 06 Apr 2005 7:48 am
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] How to learn Access
> 
> OMG! You did that as well then Roz ;-)
> 
> Chris Foote
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:41 PM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] How to learn Access
> > 
> > 
> > Step number 1, join this list. Start a random project, and 
> bug people 
> > until you make sense of it.
> > 
> > I learned everything by trial and error, and listening to 
> the several 
> > gurus we have here. IMO, there's just no better way to push 
> yourself.
> > 
> > ;D
> > 
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Wed Apr  6 13:19:35 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:19:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Skipping field in report/labels
Message-ID: <s253f001.054@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I thought there was a setting for this, but I don't see it. 

A coworker of mine has whipped up a quick labels program, using A2K.
There is an "Address1" field and "Address2." as you might expect, many
times there is no secondary address info and he wants to ignor this
then. It currently leaves a blank line, and he wants to push things up.
How can we do this?


From susanj at sgmeet.com  Wed Apr  6 13:44:30 2005
From: susanj at sgmeet.com (Susan Jones)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:44:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Skipping field in report/labels
In-Reply-To: <s253f001.054@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
References: <s253f001.054@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050406134232.04920670@192.168.3.99>

The setting you're looking for is the 'Can Shrink' option in the design 
view.  Set it to yes.
Susan


At 01:19 PM 4/6/05, you wrote:
>I thought there was a setting for this, but I don't see it.
>
>A coworker of mine has whipped up a quick labels program, using A2K.
>There is an "Address1" field and "Address2." as you might expect, many
>times there is no secondary address info and he wants to ignor this
>then. It currently leaves a blank line, and he wants to push things up.
>How can we do this?
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From pharold at proftesting.com  Wed Apr  6 14:42:36 2005
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:42:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Skipping field in report/labels
In-Reply-To: <s253f001.054@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <000201c53ae0$c90a2de0$192da8c0@D58BT131Perry>

If you use the label wizard it's taken care of in the automatic design.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:20 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Skipping field in report/labels


I thought there was a setting for this, but I don't see it. 

A coworker of mine has whipped up a quick labels program, using A2K. There
is an "Address1" field and "Address2." as you might expect, many times there
is no secondary address info and he wants to ignor this then. It currently
leaves a blank line, and he wants to push things up. How can we do this?
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From greggs at msn.com  Wed Apr  6 15:13:40 2005
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:13:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data
References: <000201c53ae0$c90a2de0$192da8c0@D58BT131Perry>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV170A664BCB77BA551BAFE1C63D0@phx.gbl>

I have a customer who can't always see all his data.  When it started, half of the text was missing from a text box.  He entered the missing text, went out and back in, and both the new text and the old text appeared.  It happened to him again only this time in a subform, all the data was missing. retype, leave, return, and all data is duplicated.

This is visible on multiple systems (he has 6).  Each user has their own FE on 2002.  The server is running windows 2000 (last time I was there).  It is also happening in different apps.  It's happened a 3rd time in a completely different app.  Any ideas? 

Thanks for all your help!

From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Apr  6 15:33:32 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 16:33:32 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Form Positioning
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A207@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I want to open a form in a specific location with relation to another form.
How can I do this?

Thanks!
JR




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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr  6 16:40:50 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:40:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f305040605036c38ca88@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374DB@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <4254E402.12259.23E9AB1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 6 Apr 2005 at 7:03, Steve Erbach wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> Why not! I wonder if there's something like CDDB for ISBN numbers?
> 
See 
http://isbntools.com/ and http://isbndb.com/


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From nd500_lo at charter.net  Wed Apr  6 16:45:41 2005
From: nd500_lo at charter.net (Dian)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:45:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <3rr7ej$tr6njv@mxip13a.cluster1.charter.net>

Congratulations, John (and Mary)...this is going to be the best time of your
lives. I hope you enjoy every minute of it. By coincidence, the adoption
anniversary for my nephew is April 15...he's 19 now and a true joy in every
way. Best wishes to all four of you!

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  6 18:55:13 2005
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 16:55:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050406235513.36872.qmail@web41128.mail.yahoo.com>

Stuart,
Once again apologies for the delay in responding.
Will try to trim out a version of the FE and enough of the BE to make it work.
Hope to email it to you tomorrow.
TIA
Chris

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
On 5 Apr 2005 at 16:47, Chris Enright wrote:

> Just a little more background info. If the client says they have used the facility before the
> program goes to frmCustomers and asks them to enter either their Membership Number or their
> Name. When they enter one or the other the form brings up all their details. They press
> and the popup/modal form frmEnterPIN is displayed.
> The form has a textbox "Please enter your PIN", a box for them to enter it and a 
> button. Nothing else! 
> The Record Source is qryCustomers and the Filter is on Membership Number.
> However, if you press the Right Arrow, a sunken box appears on the left showing their Membership
> Number. No problem! However, press the Left Arrow and a ditto box appears on the right showing
> the PIN Number in clear even though it is stored in the BE as password/asterisks. Continuous
> pressing of either arrow just tabs between the blank box, the Membership Number and the PIN. No
> other field from the record is shown.
> 

You've got me intrigued.

Impossible to say what is happening without a closer look. Can you copy 
frmCustomers and frmEnterPIN into a blank database and put is somewhere 
accessible for download or email me a copy. 



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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Thu Apr  7 01:25:50 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:25:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Word closes before it shows the user the document 
Message-ID: <OFC9BD66EA.E6C1361D-ONCA256FDC.00209181@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Hi all,

Now trying to fix a 2nd database which is not working, written in Access97.
Problem is there is a Form letter function (code below) when I call this
function it opens word but no document appears in the window. The popup to
ask if it printed OK appears but the document is not visible to the user
and no printing occurs. If I comment out the line
'.Documents(strMainDocument).Close SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges I get a
program monitor error but the document is visible.

Any ideas?

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange


Public Sub Export_Word()
Dim rsA0001 As Recordset

Dim objWord As Word.Application
Dim strMainDocument As String

Dim dbExportWord As Database
Dim rsExportWord As Recordset
Dim booPrintBackground As Boolean


gfLetterPrintedOK = False 'Value will be set to true if the user verifies
that the letter printed

' Resume to the next line following the error.
On Error Resume Next

' Attempt to reference Word which is already running.
Set objWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")
If Err = 429 Then
    Set objWord = New Word.Application
    Err = 0
End If


' If true, Word is not running.
If objWord Is Nothing Then
        ' Create a new instance of the Word application.
        Set objWord = New Word.Application
        ' If true, MS Word is not installed.
        If objWord Is Nothing Then
                MsgBox "MS Word is not installed on your computer"
                GoTo ExitRoutine
        End If 'objWord Is Nothing
End If 'objWord Is Nothing

'Check to Ensure the temporary RTF file has been deleted, if not, Delete it
    gstrWordDirectory = Dir$(strTempRTFFile, vbNormal)
        If gstrWordDirectory <> "" Then
                On Error GoTo Failure 'Displays 'File Access Error (#71) if
a form letter is already open
                    Kill strTempRTFFile
                On Error Resume Next
        End If 'gstrWordDirectory <> ""

    If gstrAccessWordQuery = "" Then
                    'Print Blank Form
                        objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate)
                Else
                    DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputQuery, gstrAccessWordQuery, _
                        acFormatRTF, strTempRTFFile, False
                    objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate) 'Template document
'*.dot'
                    strMainDocument = objWord.ActiveDocument.Name 'Sets the
name of the 'Main Document' (template document)
                    'so that it can be closed later

                    With objWord.ActiveDocument.MailMerge
                        .SuppressBlankLines = True
                        .ViewMailMergeFieldCodes = False
                        .Destination = wdSendToNewDocument
                        .Execute
                    End With

                    With objWord 'Close Main Document
                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Activate
                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Close
SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges
                           ' Store background printing option.



                     End With

                objWord.Activate    ' Activates Word
                objWord.Visible = True    ' Show Word to the user.
                objWord.WindowState = wdWindowStateMaximize
                Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.

            On Error GoTo Failure

                If MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?", vbYesNo,
"Form Letters") = vbYes Then

                        gfLetterPrintedOK = True
                        Set dbExportWord = CurrentDb()
                        Set rsExportWord =
dbExportWord.OpenRecordset("tblLettersSent", dbOpenDynaset, dbFailOnError)

                        With rsExportWord
                            .AddNew
                                !LTRLPBNumber = gstrRLPBNumber
                                !LTPropertyID = glngMainPropertyID
                                !LTFormLetterID = gstrFormLetterID
                                !LTComment = gstrFormLetterComment
                                !LTDatePrinted = Date
                                !LTTimePrinted = Time
                            .Update
                        End With

                        Select Case getgstrFormLetterID()
                            Case "A0001"
                                dbExportWord.Execute "A000104",
dbFailOnError

                        End Select
                End If 'MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?"...
      End If 'gstrAccessWordQuery = ""


ExitRoutine:
    On Error Resume Next
        rsExportWord.Close
        Set rsExportWord = Nothing
        dbExportWord.Close
        Set dbExportWord = Nothing
        rsA0001.Close
        Set rsA0001 = Nothing
        Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.
    Exit Sub

Failure:
        Call ErrorHandler(strProcedureName:="Export_Word",
lngErrorNumber:=Err.Number, _
            strErrorDescription:=Err.Description, _
            strErrorSource:=Err.Source)
        Resume ExitRoutine

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  7 03:27:26 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:27:26 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data
Message-ID: <s2550b27.001@cactus.dk>

Hi Greggs

It could be due to file caching on either the server, the network
client or both.
Check with your network admin.

/gustav

>>> greggs at msn.com 04/06 10:13 pm >>>
I have a customer who can't always see all his data.  When it started,
half of the text was missing from a text box.  He entered the missing
text, went out and back in, and both the new text and the old text
appeared.  It happened to him again only this time in a subform, all the
data was missing. retype, leave, return, and all data is duplicated.

This is visible on multiple systems (he has 6).  Each user has their
own FE on 2002.  The server is running windows 2000 (last time I was
there).  It is also happening in different apps.  It's happened a 3rd
time in a completely different app.  Any ideas? 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  7 03:33:53 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:33:53 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <s2550cad.003@cactus.dk>

Hi Stuart

Looks like ReaderWare from the first link could be the answer to
Steve's original request.

/gustav

>>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 04/06 11:40 pm >>>
On 6 Apr 2005 at 7:03, Steve Erbach wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> Why not! I wonder if there's something like CDDB for ISBN numbers?
> 
See 
http://isbntools.com/ and http://isbndb.com/ 


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From JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com  Thu Apr  7 06:14:31 2005
From: JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com (JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:14:31 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] AXP fails to install ..continued
Message-ID: <ff.10f4131b.2f867017@aol.com>

 
Hi  Marty, 
You were right about  setup.lst having the language set to 1033 also in the 
same file under [runtime]  the OSPLCID (what ever that is) was set to 1033.  I 
changed the language setting to 2057  without success then the OSPLCID=2057 
again without success. I then ran the  Runtime SP3 again. No joy. This was now 
getting tedious. As desperate attempt to  get the thing working I manually 
installed Access XP runtime on the user?s PC  and copied the db front end as well 
and it works as it should.   
Thank you once more  for your input. 
john  bell


From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Apr  7 08:39:56 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
Message-ID: <s2550052.007@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Just to add my two cents...I'd been to classes and I tried reading books
(I just can't get through a text book though), but what actually got me
going was this list...seriously! 

1) Join this list

2) Bookmark:

	http://www.mvps.org/access/
	http://www.lebans.com/monthcalendar.htm 
	http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html 
	
* There are many others, but these three along with many of this list's
member sites, which you can get from their sig lines have about anything
you could want.

Use the material you find here. Examine their code and see what it
does. My personal rule is, if I borrow someone else's code, I must know
what it does. I've broken this rule a few times because of time
constraints, but I have always tried to return and figure it out.

3) Buy a copy of Access Developer's Handbook.  There are different
version available...I still use my A97 version, but you would want to
buy the version your starting in at least.

4) Like someone already mentioned, pick a project. It doesn't even have
to be anything major. And don't worry about it being out there
already...it probably is. Just pick something...perhaps a db for your
book, video, or music collection, or a workout chart...and just dive in.
A couple of my first "learning" projects were a DB for my daughter's per
frogs...it tracked the frogs, their feedings, purchases...totally
un-needed, but I learned from it and she loved it. I also did a wedding
planner for my Sister-in-Law. This was a nasty program, but she used it
and seemed to love it...I heard her mother "raving" about it to someone,
and they didn't know that I had done it.


>>> roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk 4/6/2005 10:40 AM >>>
Step number 1, join this list. Start a random project, and bug people
until
you make sense of it.

I learned everything by trial and error, and listening to the several
gurus
we have here. IMO, there's just no better way to push yourself.

;D

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 06 April 2005 15:32
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access


Hello All,

A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to
learn

Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are
tutorials or 
something)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr


http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr


I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just
said

Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited
in 
what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.

If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what
direction 
would you send them?

Thanks Again,

Mark A. Matte


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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Apr  7 09:25:41 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:25:41 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374E6@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Is he hitting a carriage return or other character such as a tab that is
being captured and  causing the data to wrap?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Cc: Robert Penn
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data


I have a customer who can't always see all his data.  When it started, half
of the text was missing from a text box.  He entered the missing text, went
out and back in, and both the new text and the old text appeared.  It
happened to him again only this time in a subform, all the data was missing.
retype, leave, return, and all data is duplicated.

This is visible on multiple systems (he has 6).  Each user has their own FE
on 2002.  The server is running windows 2000 (last time I was there).  It is
also happening in different apps.  It's happened a 3rd time in a completely
different app.  Any ideas? 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Apr  7 09:27:31 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:27:31 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374E7@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Colby 2.0! Great, congrats. 
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr  7 09:42:50 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:42:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BEC@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

I have a crosstab query listing New, Complete, & Past Due, On Time work
orders. In Excel I am using the MS Query to import the data from the
A2003 database & create a graph.

 

The problem: If there aren't any past due work orders when I refresh the
data the Excel query crashes. It also deletes the excel column I have
set up for past due totals. If there are past due work orders, I have to
manually edit the query to add the past due column back in. Run the
refresh query, it adds the past due column but it rearranges the Past
Due column to the right of the other columns.  When I modify the query I
put the past due column back in the order I want it in the list.

 

Ex:

The way I want it layed out & if there are any past due: Responsible,
New, Completed, Past Due, On Time

The way it puts the data after there are past due WOs (if there weren't
any the previous run & I add the column to the query): Responsible, New
Completed, On Time, Past Due

 

Can I put something in my crosstab query to allow for null values? Is
there a way to put a 0 in the query results if the value shows null?
That way it would always show my past due column in Excel because it
would have a 0 in the field. The data is from a database I can not
change, so I can't add a 0 to the tables. I just need the query or Excel
to display a 0 in the Null fields so the Excel query runs correctly.

 

Or is there a setting in Excel that will always keep the rows where I
want them &/or set the value to 0 if null when refreshing the MSQuery?

 

Virginia



From JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com  Thu Apr  7 09:53:20 2005
From: JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com (JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:53:20 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <74.5130e3e4.2f86a360@aol.com>

Don't you mean its Tough for a 4 year old going as SLOW as 50+ old  boy! 
<Select grin =  "Big">
 
Wish you and your boss(wife) a sucessful day in court and not too many  
sleepless nights.
 
johnb 


From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr  7 09:56:37 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:56:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BED@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  7 10:04:34 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:04:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BED@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <006c01c53b83$1c1267d0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

WooHOOOOooooo!!!

Congrats and may it be everything you hoped it would be.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, Charlotte,
etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been awhile since I have
posted to the list & the new ones probably won't remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It took
awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to everyone on
the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  7 10:08:56 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:08:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <74.5130e3e4.2f86a360@aol.com>
Message-ID: <006d01c53b83$b7eb68a0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yea, that too.  This little guy literally runs in circles up the hall,
around the living room / dining room and back down the hall to his room,
running laps 15 or 20 at a time just to get his energy out.  

I drink diet Pepsi all day just to get up the energy to go to the bathroom
to get rid of all the diet Pepsi.  Kinda puts things into perspective.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:53 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


Don't you mean its Tough for a 4 year old going as SLOW as 50+ old  boy! 
<Select grin =  "Big">
 
Wish you and your boss(wife) a sucessful day in court and not too many  
sleepless nights.
 
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Apr  7 10:14:54 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:14:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B590FC@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9B9@ADGSERVER>

Virginia,

I remember you.  Although I'm sure that you do not know me.  But
congratulations!

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, Charlotte,
etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been awhile since I have
posted to the list & the new ones probably won't remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It took
awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to everyone on
the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  7 10:23:58 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:23:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <s2556cc7.015@cactus.dk>

Hi Virginia

I remember you.

/gustav

>>> HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com 04/07 4:56 pm >>>
This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
remember me.

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!

Virginia



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr  7 10:30:33 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:30:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BF0@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

It makes me feel so good that everyone remembers me. I miss talking to
everyone in my AccessD family. I would never have made it without
everyone's help.

 

Also, congrats John on the family!! I am so happy for you & will keep
you in my prayers. I know it will work out perfectly - have fun.

 

******************
Hi Virginia
 
I remember you.
 
/gustav

 



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Apr  7 10:29:16 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:29:16 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <20050407152913.485E52502C0@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Well done Virginia, that's great, and terrific that you love it so much now
you're there. Long may you enjoy it. We (or maybe just I) perhaps need
reminding that it's not a bad old career.

--
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http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



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From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Date: 07/04/05 15:13

>
> This is mostly for you &quot;old&quot; AccessD guys out there (John,
Susan,
> Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
> awhile since I have posted to the list &amp; the new ones probably won't
> remember me.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
> took awhile &amp; a lot of hard work, but I made it &amp; love it. Thanks
to
> everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!
>
>
>
> Virginia
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>
>
>
>
>

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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Thu Apr  7 10:32:17 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:32:17 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225825@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Congratulations Virginia. I hope you continue to love it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com] 
Sent: 07 April 2005 15:57
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, Charlotte,
etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been awhile since I have
posted to the list & the new ones probably won't remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It took
awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to everyone on
the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

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From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Apr  7 10:39:20 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:39:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F4A@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Virginia,
Welcome back!

Go to the properties of the query.
Place the title of the columns, in quotes, separated by a comma, in the Column Headings.
When the query runs, each column will be visible - even those that are null.
When you export to Excel all the columns will be in place.

HTH
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:43 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel


I have a crosstab query listing New, Complete, & Past Due, On Time work
orders. In Excel I am using the MS Query to import the data from the
A2003 database & create a graph.

 

The problem: If there aren't any past due work orders when I refresh the
data the Excel query crashes. It also deletes the excel column I have
set up for past due totals. If there are past due work orders, I have to
manually edit the query to add the past due column back in. Run the
refresh query, it adds the past due column but it rearranges the Past
Due column to the right of the other columns.  When I modify the query I
put the past due column back in the order I want it in the list.

 

Ex:

The way I want it layed out & if there are any past due: Responsible,
New, Completed, Past Due, On Time

The way it puts the data after there are past due WOs (if there weren't
any the previous run & I add the column to the query): Responsible, New
Completed, On Time, Past Due

 

Can I put something in my crosstab query to allow for null values? Is
there a way to put a 0 in the query results if the value shows null?
That way it would always show my past due column in Excel because it
would have a 0 in the field. The data is from a database I can not
change, so I can't add a 0 to the tables. I just need the query or Excel
to display a 0 in the Null fields so the Excel query runs correctly.

 

Or is there a setting in Excel that will always keep the rows where I
want them &/or set the value to 0 if null when refreshing the MSQuery?

 

Virginia

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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Thu Apr  7 10:43:00 2005
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:43:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BF0@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050407154256.LIOC2192.mta9.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>

Virginia

Believe me - you made it a long time ago. Although you didn't know it, your
contributions to this list over the years have helped me in immeasurable
ways - both as questions and as answers.

Congratulations on your achievement, and I wish you the best of luck. I look
forward to your renewed involvement with the List.

Regards,
Bob Gajewski



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:31 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks

It makes me feel so good that everyone remembers me. I miss talking to
everyone in my AccessD family. I would never have made it without everyone's
help.

 

Also, congrats John on the family!! I am so happy for you & will keep you in
my prayers. I know it will work out perfectly - have fun.

 

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I remember you.
 
/gustav

 

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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr  7 10:47:43 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:47:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BF1@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

The properties of the query in Access or Excel? Excel creates a linked
query to the database.
 
>Place the title of the columns, in quotes, separated by a comma, in the
Column Headings. 
        Where would this go, I don't see a place listing the column
headings in Access or Excel queries.
*************
Virginia,
Welcome back!
 
Go to the properties of the query.
Place the title of the columns, in quotes, separated by a comma, in the
Column Headings.
When the query runs, each column will be visible - even those that are
null.
When you export to Excel all the columns will be in place.
 
HTH
Jim
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> ]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:43 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> 
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel
 
 
I have a crosstab query listing New, Complete, & Past Due, On Time work
orders. In Excel I am using the MS Query to import the data from the
A2003 database & create a graph.
 
 
 
The problem: If there aren't any past due work orders when I refresh the
data the Excel query crashes. It also deletes the excel column I have
set up for past due totals. If there are past due work orders, I have to
manually edit the query to add the past due column back in. Run the
refresh query, it adds the past due column but it rearranges the Past
Due column to the right of the other columns.  When I modify the query I
put the past due column back in the order I want it in the list.
 
 
 
Ex:
 
The way I want it layed out & if there are any past due: Responsible,
New, Completed, Past Due, On Time
 
The way it puts the data after there are past due WOs (if there weren't
any the previous run & I add the column to the query): Responsible, New
Completed, On Time, Past Due
 
 
 
Can I put something in my crosstab query to allow for null values? Is
there a way to put a 0 in the query results if the value shows null?
That way it would always show my past due column in Excel because it
would have a 0 in the field. The data is from a database I can not
change, so I can't add a 0 to the tables. I just need the query or Excel
to display a 0 in the Null fields so the Excel query runs correctly.
 
 
 
Or is there a setting in Excel that will always keep the rows where I
want them &/or set the value to 0 if null when refreshing the MSQuery?
 
 
 
Virginia
 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  7 11:04:50 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 12:04:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BED@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050407160506.PBLM1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Congratulations! 

Susan H. 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It took
awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to everyone on
the list that has helped me over the years!!




From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Apr  7 11:06:35 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:06:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F4B@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

In Access.
Open the query in design view.
Right click the area where the tables are visible.
The query properties should be visible.
"Column Headings" is the second item on the list.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel


The properties of the query in Access or Excel? Excel creates a linked
query to the database.
 
>Place the title of the columns, in quotes, separated by a comma, in the
Column Headings. 
        Where would this go, I don't see a place listing the column
headings in Access or Excel queries.
*************
Virginia,
Welcome back!
 
Go to the properties of the query.
Place the title of the columns, in quotes, separated by a comma, in the
Column Headings.
When the query runs, each column will be visible - even those that are
null.
When you export to Excel all the columns will be in place.
 
HTH
Jim
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> ]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:43 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> 
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel
 
 
I have a crosstab query listing New, Complete, & Past Due, On Time work
orders. In Excel I am using the MS Query to import the data from the
A2003 database & create a graph.
 
 
 
The problem: If there aren't any past due work orders when I refresh the
data the Excel query crashes. It also deletes the excel column I have
set up for past due totals. If there are past due work orders, I have to
manually edit the query to add the past due column back in. Run the
refresh query, it adds the past due column but it rearranges the Past
Due column to the right of the other columns.  When I modify the query I
put the past due column back in the order I want it in the list.
 
 
 
Ex:
 
The way I want it layed out & if there are any past due: Responsible,
New, Completed, Past Due, On Time
 
The way it puts the data after there are past due WOs (if there weren't
any the previous run & I add the column to the query): Responsible, New
Completed, On Time, Past Due
 
 
 
Can I put something in my crosstab query to allow for null values? Is
there a way to put a 0 in the query results if the value shows null?
That way it would always show my past due column in Excel because it
would have a 0 in the field. The data is from a database I can not
change, so I can't add a 0 to the tables. I just need the query or Excel
to display a 0 in the Null fields so the Excel query runs correctly.
 
 
 
Or is there a setting in Excel that will always keep the rows where I
want them &/or set the value to 0 if null when refreshing the MSQuery?
 
 
 
Virginia
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr  7 11:15:53 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:15:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873968@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Congratulations and I hope you continue to enjoy it after the euphoria
wears off! ;->

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr  7 11:34:43 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:34:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899EDD@infoserver01.infostat.local>

What is he trying to learn, how to program it or just how to use it?
You can do a lot with access just using the wizards but competence in
development takes a lot more work and time.  The Microsoft Press Access
Step-By-Step books will provide the essentials of how to use it and make
the wizards work for you.

Relational design is another level of learning.  I was reading database
developers journals before I ever started working with Access, and
believe me, it helps.  The O'Reilly book, Access Database  Design &
Programming, has a good overview on relational theory and normalization,
and I recommend it highly to all Access newcomers.  I've never been able
to use newsgroups to any good effect, so I wouldn't recommend those.
This list or the sister list, Access-L, is a good place to lurk but can
be overwhelming for a total newcome.  Woody's Lounge at www.wopr.com has
a large and active Access board with a good search implementation and
questions (and answers) from all levels of skill.  

The dissection method is a good way to figure out how someone else did
it and then back into the why.  That's how I originally learned dBase
back in its infancy, and it's still a useful technique.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access


Hello All,

A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to
learn 
Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are tutorials
or 
something)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr

I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just
said 
Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited
in 
what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.

If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what
direction 
would you send them?

Thanks Again,

Mark A. Matte


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr  7 11:45:35 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:45:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899EDF@infoserver01.infostat.local>

> 
I would love to trap the KeyDown event on the form and discard the left,
right up, down and pageup and pagedown keycodes! How?

Here's a sample KeyDown routine.  Maybe it will give you the idea.

Private Sub Form_KeyDown(KeyCode As Integer, Shift As Integer)
' code disables use of arrows and PgUp and PgDown
    On Error Resume Next
    Select Case KeyCode
        Case vbKeyLeft, vbKeyRight, vbKeyUp, vbKeyDown, _
                vbKeyPageUp, vbKeyPageDown
            KeyCode = 0
    End Select
            
End Sub

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts


Susan, 
 
Apologies for what appears to be a late reply but when I send my emails,
you are asleep, I presume , and when you send yours I'm in the land of
nod.
 
When I was told about the problem I checked my master program and
horror, it was true.
 
Just a little more background info. If the client says they have used
the facility before the program goes to frmCustomers and asks them to
enter either their Membership Number or their Name. When they enter one
or the other the form brings up all their details. They press <Continue>
and the popup/modal form frmEnterPIN is displayed. The form has a
textbox "Please enter your PIN", a box for them to enter it and a
<Continue> button. Nothing else! 
The Record Source is qryCustomers and the Filter is on Membership
Number. However, if you press the Right Arrow, a sunken box appears on
the left showing their Membership Number. No problem! However, press the
Left Arrow and a ditto box appears on the right showing the PIN Number
in clear even though it is stored in the BE as password/asterisks.
Continuous pressing of either arrow just tabs between the blank box, the
Membership Number and the PIN. No other field from the record is shown.
 
Charlotte, 
 
I would love to trap the KeyDown event on the form and discard the left,
right up, down and pageup and pagedown keycodes! How?
 
Chris
 
 

		
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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Thu Apr  7 11:47:23 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:47:23 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
References: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BED@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <028701c53b91$799baf70$0800a8c0@s856>

Hi Virginia,
Congratulations from me too.
I'm not much on the list any more, but i still read most of it.
found that the young guys are much better in answering the questions :)
wish you much success in your new job
Lembit

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From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Apr  7 12:34:27 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:34:27 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <BAY103-F5ADF5968125D187B017B3D23E0@phx.gbl>

Virginia,

I also remember you.  Congrats on the new career.

This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of all 
list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have actually 
been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 1999.

Anyway, welcome back/congrats Virginia.

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
>Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:56:37 -0400
>
>This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
>Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
>awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
>remember me.
>
>
>
>Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
>took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
>everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!
>
>
>
>Virginia
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  7 12:40:35 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:40:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374E7@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <007f01c53b98$e77a0ad0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

LOL, this little boy is not a 2.0 of anyone.  He is his own little man.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


Colby 2.0! Great, congrats. 
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Apr  7 13:52:06 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:52:06 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access and TaskManager
In-Reply-To: <007f01c53b98$e77a0ad0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F196F96AC42DE63C7F9E678D23E0@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

I'm doing some large data pulls with A97 via ODBC...I know it takes a long 
time anyway...but when looking at the windows task manager, only 1-2 
percentCPU usage is indicated for Access.

Just curious, how to make this thing go any faster.  A month ago we talked 
about the 'ADO' thing...but unless I did something wrong...it didn't go any 
faster.

FYI...I'm talking a little over 1 million records...and memo/blob fields are 
involved.  Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte




From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Apr  7 14:05:24 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:05:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access and TaskManager
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F196F96AC42DE63C7F9E678D23E0@phx.gbl>
References: <007f01c53b98$e77a0ad0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
	<BAY103-F196F96AC42DE63C7F9E678D23E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <aea6c495050407120552f7712@mail.gmail.com>

What's the ODBC connection too? When I do ODBC to Oracle, Access sends
the query info to the Oracle system and the query is really run on the
server, not on the Access PC. So the Access PC just sits there waiting
for the server to send the results of the query down the pipe. Until
the server is ready, the Access PC just waits, hence the low CPU
utilization, it's just killing time. The way to speed it up is to
optomize the query that is sent to the Oracle engine - joining and
putting criteria on indexed fields and such.  Not much else you can do
I'm afraid.

On Apr 7, 2005 1:52 PM, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I'm doing some large data pulls with A97 via ODBC...I know it takes a long
> time anyway...but when looking at the windows task manager, only 1-2
> percentCPU usage is indicated for Access.
> 
> Just curious, how to make this thing go any faster.  A month ago we talked
> about the 'ADO' thing...but unless I did something wrong...it didn't go any
> faster.
> 
> FYI...I'm talking a little over 1 million records...and memo/blob fields are
> involved.  Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark A. Matte
> 
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> 


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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Apr  7 14:13:02 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:13:02 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access and TaskManager
In-Reply-To: <aea6c495050407120552f7712@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F318BF10428CE9796A026D8D23E0@phx.gbl>

Its to an Informix db.  I can check the access db...and the table is being 
populated...just real slow.  I'm only pulling 2 fields:  CASE_ID(which is 
indexed and has criteria) and DESC(which is the memo field no criteria).

Not sure if anyone has a number...but is there a ballpark number of expected 
records per minute/second?  Just curious if I'm really slow...or if this is 
the norm.

Thanks,

Mark

>From: Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access and TaskManager
>Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:05:24 -0500
>
>What's the ODBC connection too? When I do ODBC to Oracle, Access sends
>the query info to the Oracle system and the query is really run on the
>server, not on the Access PC. So the Access PC just sits there waiting
>for the server to send the results of the query down the pipe. Until
>the server is ready, the Access PC just waits, hence the low CPU
>utilization, it's just killing time. The way to speed it up is to
>optomize the query that is sent to the Oracle engine - joining and
>putting criteria on indexed fields and such.  Not much else you can do
>I'm afraid.
>
>On Apr 7, 2005 1:52 PM, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I'm doing some large data pulls with A97 via ODBC...I know it takes a 
>long
> > time anyway...but when looking at the windows task manager, only 1-2
> > percentCPU usage is indicated for Access.
> >
> > Just curious, how to make this thing go any faster.  A month ago we 
>talked
> > about the 'ADO' thing...but unless I did something wrong...it didn't go 
>any
> > faster.
> >
> > FYI...I'm talking a little over 1 million records...and memo/blob fields 
>are
> > involved.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark A. Matte
> >
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
>--
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>garykjos at gmail.com
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  7 14:14:24 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:14:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F5ADF5968125D187B017B3D23E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000101c53ba6$06030bc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I found the list in July of 1997.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:34 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


Virginia,

I also remember you.  Congrats on the new career.

This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of all 
list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have actually 
been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 1999.

Anyway, welcome back/congrats Virginia.

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
>Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:56:37 -0400
>
>This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, 
>Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been 
>awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't 
>remember me.
>
>
>
>Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It 
>took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to 
>everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!
>
>
>
>Virginia
>
>--
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>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Apr  7 14:18:32 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:18:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form in DS mode 
In-Reply-To: <ff.10f4131b.2f867017@aol.com>
References: <ff.10f4131b.2f867017@aol.com>
Message-ID: <42558788.2030506@rogers.com>

I have a form called frmEventSelector, to which I pass the name of the 
report or form I want to run. The Event selector contains a combo that 
sets the EventID I want. Then I examine the name of the OpenArgs 
argument. Code in the form looks at the prefix, and if it's frm it runs 
the form; if it's rpt it runs the form, and if it's qry it runs the query.

How can I let this form know that I want to run a given form in 
DataSheet mode? Even though I set its default mode to DS, it doesn't 
seem to help.

TIA,
Arthur



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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  7 14:52:30 2005
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 12:52:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050407195230.53653.qmail@web41103.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks Charlotte,

Something new every day.

Chris

--- Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> > 
> I would love to trap the KeyDown event on the form and discard the
> left,
> right up, down and pageup and pagedown keycodes! How?
> 
> Here's a sample KeyDown routine.  Maybe it will give you the idea.
> 
> Private Sub Form_KeyDown(KeyCode As Integer, Shift As Integer)
> ' code disables use of arrows and PgUp and PgDown
>     On Error Resume Next
>     Select Case KeyCode
>         Case vbKeyLeft, vbKeyRight, vbKeyUp, vbKeyDown, _
>                 vbKeyPageUp, vbKeyPageDown
>             KeyCode = 0
>     End Select
>             
> End Sub
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:48 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
> 
> 
> Susan, 
>  
> Apologies for what appears to be a late reply but when I send my
> emails,
> you are asleep, I presume , and when you send yours I'm in the land
> of
> nod.
>  
> When I was told about the problem I checked my master program and
> horror, it was true.
>  
> Just a little more background info. If the client says they have used
> the facility before the program goes to frmCustomers and asks them to
> enter either their Membership Number or their Name. When they enter
> one
> or the other the form brings up all their details. They press
> <Continue>
> and the popup/modal form frmEnterPIN is displayed. The form has a
> textbox "Please enter your PIN", a box for them to enter it and a
> <Continue> button. Nothing else! 
> The Record Source is qryCustomers and the Filter is on Membership
> Number. However, if you press the Right Arrow, a sunken box appears
> on
> the left showing their Membership Number. No problem! However, press
> the
> Left Arrow and a ditto box appears on the right showing the PIN
> Number
> in clear even though it is stored in the BE as password/asterisks.
> Continuous pressing of either arrow just tabs between the blank box,
> the
> Membership Number and the PIN. No other field from the record is
> shown.
>  
> Charlotte, 
>  
> I would love to trap the KeyDown event on the form and discard the
> left,
> right up, down and pageup and pagedown keycodes! How?
>  
> Chris
>  
>  
> 
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Apr  7 15:51:03 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:51:03 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form in DS mode 
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2F28@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Sounds like you will need to pass an additional parameter the to
frmEventSelector form. This is easy to do, just pass a string with a
delimiter character (say the pipe character "|") between your parameters.
Then frmEventSelector can call Split on the OpenArgs parameter to get the
individual parameters.

Finally, your code can open the form using acFormDS for the View parameter
where needed.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent:	Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:19 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] Open a form in DS mode 
> 
> I have a form called frmEventSelector, to which I pass the name of the 
> report or form I want to run. The Event selector contains a combo that 
> sets the EventID I want. Then I examine the name of the OpenArgs 
> argument. Code in the form looks at the prefix, and if it's frm it runs 
> the form; if it's rpt it runs the form, and if it's qry it runs the query.
> 
> How can I let this form know that I want to run a given form in 
> DataSheet mode? Even though I set its default mode to DS, it doesn't 
> seem to help.
> 
> TIA,
> Arthur
> 
> 
> 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr  7 16:10:02 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:10:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access and TaskManager
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873970@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I've seen this kind of bottleneck with ODBC links to SQL Server too.
Unless you use a passthrough query or structure your ADO to do the
processing on the server, you're stuck.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:13 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access and TaskManager


Its to an Informix db.  I can check the access db...and the table is
being 
populated...just real slow.  I'm only pulling 2 fields:  CASE_ID(which
is 
indexed and has criteria) and DESC(which is the memo field no criteria).

Not sure if anyone has a number...but is there a ballpark number of
expected 
records per minute/second?  Just curious if I'm really slow...or if this
is 
the norm.

Thanks,

Mark

>From: Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access and TaskManager
>Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:05:24 -0500
>
>What's the ODBC connection too? When I do ODBC to Oracle, Access sends 
>the query info to the Oracle system and the query is really run on the 
>server, not on the Access PC. So the Access PC just sits there waiting 
>for the server to send the results of the query down the pipe. Until 
>the server is ready, the Access PC just waits, hence the low CPU 
>utilization, it's just killing time. The way to speed it up is to 
>optomize the query that is sent to the Oracle engine - joining and 
>putting criteria on indexed fields and such.  Not much else you can do 
>I'm afraid.
>
>On Apr 7, 2005 1:52 PM, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I'm doing some large data pulls with A97 via ODBC...I know it takes 
> > a
>long
> > time anyway...but when looking at the windows task manager, only 1-2

> > percentCPU usage is indicated for Access.
> >
> > Just curious, how to make this thing go any faster.  A month ago we
>talked
> > about the 'ADO' thing...but unless I did something wrong...it didn't

> > go
>any
> > faster.
> >
> > FYI...I'm talking a little over 1 million records...and memo/blob 
> > fields
>are
> > involved.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark A. Matte
> >
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
>--
>Gary Kjos
>garykjos at gmail.com
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From kathryn at bassett.net  Thu Apr  7 16:17:34 2005
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:17:34 -0700
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made
	It - Thanks)
In-Reply-To: <000101c53ba6$06030bc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050407211735.B04C740016@omta16.mta.everyone.net>

Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the 
> website of all list members...It would be interesting to see 
> how long people have actually been using Accessd.  I've used 
> this group religiously since 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.



From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Thu Apr  7 16:31:21 2005
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:31:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <20050407211735.B04C740016@omta16.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <20050407213116.XWVH4618.mta13.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>

I have been watching/lurking since at least April 2000; I asked my first
question in January 2002; and I ventured to offer my first advice (?) in May
of 2002. But, I read it every day, and all of you have been and continue to
be instrumental in my Access learning!

Bob Gajewski


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of 
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have 
> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 
> 1999.





From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  7 16:37:13 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 07:37:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form in DS mode 
In-Reply-To: <42558788.2030506@rogers.com>
References: <ff.10f4131b.2f867017@aol.com>
Message-ID: <425634A9.3036.4E00336@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 7 Apr 2005 at 15:18, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I have a form called frmEventSelector, to which I pass the name of the 
> report or form I want to run. The Event selector contains a combo that 
> sets the EventID I want. Then I examine the name of the OpenArgs 
> argument. Code in the form looks at the prefix, and if it's frm it runs 
> the form; if it's rpt it runs the form, and if it's qry it runs the query.
> 
> How can I let this form know that I want to run a given form in 
> DataSheet mode? Even though I set its default mode to DS, it doesn't 
> seem to help.
> 

Pass the form name as "ds" & frmMyForm.name(for DataSheet) or "fv" & 
frmMyForm.name (for FormView). Then parse OpenArgs for these characters as 
well.




 -- 
Stuart




From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Thu Apr  7 17:03:02 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:03:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC04F3C4@dewey.Symphony.local>

December 1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby,
Jurgen Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among
others.

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com




From drboz at pacbell.net  Thu Apr  7 17:10:24 2005
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:10:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
References: <006d01c53b83$b7eb68a0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <007901c53bbe$993ec560$7f00470a@Drblaptop>

John,

    I've a daughter 36 and a son 7, and lets just say I'm 60+.  First thing 
I noticed is that it's easier when you're older... not that he doesn't wear 
me out, cause he does.  But my priorities are so different now than when I 
was in my 20's... I'm having a ball with this little guy!!  Couple of weeks 
ago we took him to Legoland and Disneyland... 4 days of keeping up with him 
was a real challenge.  If I'd have had to run a footrace to save my butt I'd 
have been in a world of trouble.  But it was so doggone much fun watching 
him have fun that I'd do  it again in a heartbeat.

Best wishes, and enjoy!!

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:08 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


> Yea, that too.  This little guy literally runs in circles up the hall,
> around the living room / dining room and back down the hall to his room,
> running laps 15 or 20 at a time just to get his energy out.
>
> I drink diet Pepsi all day just to get up the energy to go to the bathroom
> to get rid of all the diet Pepsi.  Kinda puts things into perspective.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:53 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
>
>
> Don't you mean its Tough for a 4 year old going as SLOW as 50+ old  boy!
> <Select grin =  "Big">
>
> Wish you and your boss(wife) a sucessful day in court and not too many
> sleepless nights.
>
> johnb
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Apr  7 17:49:44 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 23:49:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC04F3C4@dewey.Symphony.local>
Message-ID: <000001c53bc4$180affd0$581a0c54@minster33c3r25>

Comparative newbie, sometime mid-2000.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Steve Capistrant
> Sent: 07 April 2005 23:03
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
> 
> 
> December 1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John 
> Colby, Jurgen Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur 
> Fuller, among others.
> 
> Steve Capistrant
> scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
> Symphony Information Services
> 7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
> Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
> 763-391-7400
> www.symphonyinfo.com
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  7 18:10:07 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:10:07 -0400
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
	MadeIt - Thanks)
In-Reply-To: <20050407211735.B04C740016@omta16.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <000501c53bc6$f691f090$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the
> website of all list members...It would be interesting to see 
> how long people have actually been using Accessd.  I've used 
> this group religiously since 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr  7 18:18:49 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:18:49 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A90134C4B6@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi all
Ditto to Steve
"1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby, Jurgen
Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among others"

Sometime in 1999 I think
The list was 'hosted' somewhere else and then we 'became' AccessD after
some hosting ructions
Now...here we are - alive and kickin'

I have said it before and I will say it again
I could not have gone past a Simple Select query were it not for the
people on this list 
(As well as the web pages of Gurus we all know so well) (I did
everything and I mean everything in Macros)
The willingness to share complex and very hard fought over code as well
as a genuine desire to 'solve' 
or offer solutions to the myriad of issues that come up, is truly
remarkable in this age of copyright, Intellectual property and
all the rest of the commercial "protect thyne A**" world. Testimony to
this list's generosity.

I remember getting my first 'Browse' dialogue box to work WOW - it
actually opened and returned a file name WOW
I remember thinking I can interface with Windows - WooHoo - I showed my
(Mostly unimpressed) Wife who went on muttering
something about being a propeller-head. Go figure.
She -the unimpressed -refers to you guys as "Your nerd mates on the
List" :-)) (Love it)

Not to mention the friendships - Even had a Mad Pommies and his charming
and beautiful Wife come over to Oz. We hooked up
and have dinner - with my Wife and I. (Hi Andy)

Not to mention the people I harass on the phone - Hi Andy - Stuart -
Kath et al

Love this list

See ya

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Capistrant
Sent: Friday, 8 April 2005 8:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 

December 1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby,
Jurgen Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among
others.

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr  7 18:32:01 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:32:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873972@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I have no idea how long I've been in AccessD.  Time flies when you're
having fun! <VBG>  I'm a refugee from the Access-L list, but I got bored
over there and decided to hang out in this crowd instead.  Better
arguments over here. LOL

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:34 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


Virginia,

I also remember you.  Congrats on the new career.

This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of all

list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have
actually 
been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 1999.

Anyway, welcome back/congrats Virginia.

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
>Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:56:37 -0400
>
>This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, 
>Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been 
>awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't 
>remember me.
>
>
>
>Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It 
>took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to 
>everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!
>
>
>
>Virginia
>
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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Apr  7 18:50:22 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:50:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form in DS mode
In-Reply-To: <425634A9.3036.4E00336@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <ff.10f4131b.2f867017@aol.com>
	<425634A9.3036.4E00336@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4255C73E.4020904@rogers.com>

Good idea, and fits in with the existing logic. But what do I tell 
Access to do, given that I find "ds" as the prefix or suffix or whatever?


Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>On 7 Apr 2005 at 15:18, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I have a form called frmEventSelector, to which I pass the name of the 
>>report or form I want to run. The Event selector contains a combo that 
>>sets the EventID I want. Then I examine the name of the OpenArgs 
>>argument. Code in the form looks at the prefix, and if it's frm it runs 
>>the form; if it's rpt it runs the form, and if it's qry it runs the query.
>>
>>How can I let this form know that I want to run a given form in 
>>DataSheet mode? Even though I set its default mode to DS, it doesn't 
>>seem to help.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Pass the form name as "ds" & frmMyForm.name(for DataSheet) or "fv" & 
>frmMyForm.name (for FormView). Then parse OpenArgs for these characters as 
>well.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
>Stuart
>
>
>  
>


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  7 19:02:05 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:02:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BED@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <0IEL00L4QPFHAH@l-daemon>

Hi Virginia:

Us old guys never forget...of course we remember you.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks

This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia

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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Thu Apr  7 19:08:23 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:08:23 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A90134C4B6@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKCEGIFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

I don't know when I first joined, but as Darren mentioned, it wasn't hosted
by the members...I believe it was MtnGroup at the time.

David McAfee

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 4:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Hi all
Ditto to Steve
"1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby, Jurgen
Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among others"

Sometime in 1999 I think
The list was 'hosted' somewhere else and then we 'became' AccessD after
some hosting ructions
Now...here we are - alive and kickin'

I have said it before and I will say it again
I could not have gone past a Simple Select query were it not for the
people on this list
(As well as the web pages of Gurus we all know so well) (I did
everything and I mean everything in Macros)
The willingness to share complex and very hard fought over code as well
as a genuine desire to 'solve'
or offer solutions to the myriad of issues that come up, is truly
remarkable in this age of copyright, Intellectual property and
all the rest of the commercial "protect thyne A**" world. Testimony to
this list's generosity.

I remember getting my first 'Browse' dialogue box to work WOW - it
actually opened and returned a file name WOW
I remember thinking I can interface with Windows - WooHoo - I showed my
(Mostly unimpressed) Wife who went on muttering
something about being a propeller-head. Go figure.
She -the unimpressed -refers to you guys as "Your nerd mates on the
List" :-)) (Love it)

Not to mention the friendships - Even had a Mad Pommies and his charming
and beautiful Wife come over to Oz. We hooked up
and have dinner - with my Wife and I. (Hi Andy)

Not to mention the people I harass on the phone - Hi Andy - Stuart -
Kath et al

Love this list

See ya

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Capistrant
Sent: Friday, 8 April 2005 8:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?

December 1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby,
Jurgen Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among
others.

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  7 19:14:11 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:14:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <000101c53ba6$06030bc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IEL00E1OPZM0B@l-daemon>

John...and shortly there after got into a lengthy 'discussion' about how
'bound forms' were a stupid idea. It is amazing how children can mellow a
person. :-)

...and I am still right. <grin>
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks

I found the list in July of 1997.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:34 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


Virginia,

I also remember you.  Congrats on the new career.

This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of all 
list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have actually 
been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 1999.

Anyway, welcome back/congrats Virginia.

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
>Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:56:37 -0400
>
>This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, 
>Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been 
>awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't 
>remember me.
>
>
>
>Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It 
>took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to 
>everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!
>
>
>
>Virginia
>
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From Jeff at outbaktech.com  Thu Apr  7 19:36:15 2005
From: Jeff at outbaktech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 19:36:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
Message-ID: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D014B04@belgarion.Outbak.local>

04/27/2000 hosted by The Memphis Technology Group, Inc. MS Access List
[accessd]

 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
dmcafee at pacbell.net
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 

I don't know when I first joined, but as Darren mentioned, it wasn't
hosted
by the members...I believe it was MtnGroup at the time.

David McAfee

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 4:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Hi all
Ditto to Steve
"1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby, Jurgen
Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among others"

Sometime in 1999 I think
The list was 'hosted' somewhere else and then we 'became' AccessD after
some hosting ructions
Now...here we are - alive and kickin'

I have said it before and I will say it again
I could not have gone past a Simple Select query were it not for the
people on this list
(As well as the web pages of Gurus we all know so well) (I did
everything and I mean everything in Macros)
The willingness to share complex and very hard fought over code as well
as a genuine desire to 'solve'
or offer solutions to the myriad of issues that come up, is truly
remarkable in this age of copyright, Intellectual property and
all the rest of the commercial "protect thyne A**" world. Testimony to
this list's generosity.

I remember getting my first 'Browse' dialogue box to work WOW - it
actually opened and returned a file name WOW
I remember thinking I can interface with Windows - WooHoo - I showed my
(Mostly unimpressed) Wife who went on muttering
something about being a propeller-head. Go figure.
She -the unimpressed -refers to you guys as "Your nerd mates on the
List" :-)) (Love it)

Not to mention the friendships - Even had a Mad Pommies and his charming
and beautiful Wife come over to Oz. We hooked up
and have dinner - with my Wife and I. (Hi Andy)

Not to mention the people I harass on the phone - Hi Andy - Stuart -
Kath et al

Love this list

See ya

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Capistrant
Sent: Friday, 8 April 2005 8:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?

December 1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby,
Jurgen Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among
others.

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  7 20:13:29 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:13:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <0IEL00E1OPZM0B@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000801c53bd8$2c7d48b0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

LOL.  And in the years since I have never needed an unbound data entry form
until... Now.  Just goes to show...

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


John...and shortly there after got into a lengthy 'discussion' about how
'bound forms' were a stupid idea. It is amazing how children can mellow a
person. :-)

...and I am still right. <grin>
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks

I found the list in July of 1997.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:34 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


Virginia,

I also remember you.  Congrats on the new career.

This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of all 
list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have actually 
been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 1999.

Anyway, welcome back/congrats Virginia.

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
>Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:56:37 -0400
>
>This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
>Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been 
>awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't 
>remember me.
>
>
>
>Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
>took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to 
>everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!
>
>
>
>Virginia
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  7 21:39:23 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:39:23 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form in DS mode
In-Reply-To: <4255C73E.4020904@rogers.com>
References: <425634A9.3036.4E00336@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42567B7B.24832.5F4A96A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 7 Apr 2005 at 19:50, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> >>How can I let this form know that I want to run a given form in 
> >>DataSheet mode? Even though I set its default mode to DS, it doesn't seem
> >>to help.
> >Pass the form name as "ds" & frmMyForm.name(for DataSheet) or "fv" & 
> >frmMyForm.name (for FormView). Then parse OpenArgs for these characters as
> >well.
> Good idea, and fits in with the existing logic. But what do I tell 
> Access to do, given that I find "ds" as the prefix or suffix or whatever?

Select Case left$(OpenArgs,3)
   Case "qry"
        .......
   Case "rpt"
        ......
   Case "dsf"
       docmd.openform mid$(OpenArgs,3),acFormDS
   Case "fvf"
      docmd.openform mid$(OpenArgs,3),acFormNormal
   Case Else
End Select

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Apr  7 22:27:23 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:27:23 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Trouble Shooting Help X Posted
Message-ID: <200504080327.j383RCi08625@databaseadvisors.com>

 

The setup:

 

I have a split MDB where the network person for their reason has put both
ends on the server.

 

The files are Master.mdb and Data.MDB. There is a third file called user.mdb
User.MDB is a front end that also hits data.mdb. User is created by making
updates to master.MDB and then removing 2 forms that 2cnd person is not to
be able to edit. The users are in separate offices of the company about 40
miles apart.

 

The office manager in Office one uses Master.mdb by VPN. The order person in
office 2 reaches the server through remote desktop connection. They both run
Access locally on their machines. Network is W2k

 

*	Last Friday I installed the latest upgrades at office one, and
received client acceptance. I then called the remote office to confirm
functionality there. She claimed that she was getting a second report on
every Purchase Order she did. This second report is only supposed to print
when certain materials are ordered. The Purchase Orders and reports work ok
in the main office. Can anyone think of reason why this would be happening?

 

Thanks

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Apr  7 22:31:45 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:31:45 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can an Access mdb tell how it is being reached?
Message-ID: <200504080331.j383VXi09655@databaseadvisors.com>

Can an mdb on a server tell if it being contacted by VPN or remote desktop?

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Apr  7 22:38:27 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:38:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Form Question
Message-ID: <200504080338.j383cFi11180@databaseadvisors.com>

I have an MDB where the boss needs everything but other user should be
blocked from 2 forms.

 

What I have been doing is making 2 MDBs and just deleting the 2 forms from
the second MDB.

 

If only these 2 users work with the data is there an easier way to do this?

 

Thanks

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 



From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Thu Apr  7 23:03:23 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:03:23 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re:Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <OF41970E29.D3B21C1D-ONCA256FDD.0015F682@agric.nsw.gov.au>


hey John,

Congratulations!!!
I will pray for you and ask a blessing for your family :)
You have so many great things to share with them yet... and 50 isn't old!

And as a mother of 3 teenagers (from 12 to 17) at 38 beleive me it isn't
any easier that way LOL, I still remember what I got up to at 17!

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".
As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the
cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be
doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year
old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Fri Apr  8 03:26:06 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:26:06 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday punnery
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225829@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

These are old but still good. 


1. A vulture boards an airplane, carrying two dead raccoons. The stewardess 
looks at him and says, "I'm sorry, sir, only one carrion allowed per 
passenger." 

2. Two fish swim into a concrete wall. The one turns to the other and says: 
"Dam!" 

3. Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, so they lit a fire in the 
craft. Unsurprisingly it sank, proving once again that you can't have your 
kayak and heat it. 

4. Two hydrogen atoms meet. One says "I've lost my electron." The other says

"Are you sure?" The first replies "Yes, I'm positive." 

5. Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain during a root canal?

His goal: transcend dental medication. 

6. A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and were standing in 
the lobby discussing their recent tournament victories. After about an hour,

the manager came out of the office and asked them to disperse. "But why?" 
they asked. "Because I can't stand chess-nuts boasting in an open foyer." 

7. A woman has twins and gives them up for adoption. One of them goes to a 
family in Egypt and is named "Ahmal." The other goes to a family in Spain; 
they name him "Juan." Years later, Juan sends a picture of himself to his 
birth mother. Upon receiving the picture, she tells her husband that she 
wishes she also had a picture of Ahmal. Her husband responds, "They're 
twins! If you've seen Juan, you've seen Ahmal." 

8. Friars behind on their belfry payments opened a small florist shop to 
raise funds. Since everyone liked to buy flowers from the men of God a rival

florist across town thought the competition was unfair. He asked the good 
fathers to close down, but they would not. The rival florist then hired Hugh

MacTaggart, a thug, to "persuade" them to close. Hugh beat up the friars and

trashed their store, saying he'd be back if they didn't close up shop. 
Terrified, they did so, thereby proving that: Only Hugh can  prevent florist

friars. 

9. Mahatma Gandhi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the time, which 
produced an impressive set of calluses on his feet. He also ate very little,

which made him rather frail and with his odd diet, he suffered from bad 
breath. This made him a super calloused fragile mystic hexed by  h alitosis.


10. And finally, there was the person who sent ten different puns to 
friends, with the hope that at least one of the puns would make them laugh. 
But of course, No pun in ten did! 



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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Fri Apr  8 04:04:56 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:04:56 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Form Question
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C66F@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

Hi Joe!

I have a different but similar requirement (huh?) on one of my databases.

I (as db admin) have access to everything but several forms are unavailable
for all other users.

How are your two users getting to the forms? Via a "switchboard" type menu?

If so you could detect the user name and open one of two different
switchboards depending who the user is.

I've got a bit of code that retrieves the users Log in name.

If this is the way you want to go please let me know and I'll go into more
detail.

Regards!
Chris Foote (UK)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:38 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Form Question
> 
> 
> I have an MDB where the boss needs everything but other user should be
> blocked from 2 forms.
> 
> What I have been doing is making 2 MDBs and just deleting the 
> 2 forms from
> the second MDB.
> 
> If only these 2 users work with the data is there an easier 
> way to do this?
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
> Joe Hecht
> 
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 
> 28g


From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Fri Apr  8 07:01:02 2005
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:01:02 -0400
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
	MadeIt - Thanks)
In-Reply-To: <20050407211735.B04C740016@omta16.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <000d01c53c32$a5293620$0b08a845@hargrove.internal>

I found the list back in 1996.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com




From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Fri Apr  8 07:51:14 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:51:14 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B59D4@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the
E-mails, probably a year or so.

I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails?
I now have 111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
:-)

Erwin


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Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house
in Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn
Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of 
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have

> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 
> 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From greggs at msn.com  Fri Apr  8 07:53:59 2005
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 07:53:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374E6@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV1579E12530359B25615E01C63F0@phx.gbl>

Maybe sometimes but one incident he sited was a continuous subform was missing everything.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hale, Jim<mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:25 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data


  Is he hitting a carriage return or other character such as a tab that is
  being captured and  causing the data to wrap?
  Jim Hale

  -----Original Message-----
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  Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:14 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Cc: Robert Penn
  Subject: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data


  I have a customer who can't always see all his data.  When it started, half
  of the text was missing from a text box.  He entered the missing text, went
  out and back in, and both the new text and the old text appeared.  It
  happened to him again only this time in a subform, all the data was missing.
  retype, leave, return, and all data is duplicated.

  This is visible on multiple systems (he has 6).  Each user has their own FE
  on 2002.  The server is running windows 2000 (last time I was there).  It is
  also happening in different apps.  It's happened a 3rd time in a completely
  different app.  Any ideas? 

  Thanks for all your help!
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Apr  8 07:54:44 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 07:54:44 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485CA6@natexch.jenkens.com>

I must have joined in 1999 also.  I know it was not long after I started my
current job that I found the list through Dev Ashish's web site.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Dick [mailto:D.Dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 


Hi all
Ditto to Steve
"1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby, Jurgen
Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among others"

Sometime in 1999 I think
The list was 'hosted' somewhere else and then we 'became' AccessD after
some hosting ructions
Now...here we are - alive and kickin'

I have said it before and I will say it again
I could not have gone past a Simple Select query were it not for the
people on this list 
(As well as the web pages of Gurus we all know so well) (I did
everything and I mean everything in Macros)
The willingness to share complex and very hard fought over code as well
as a genuine desire to 'solve' 
or offer solutions to the myriad of issues that come up, is truly
remarkable in this age of copyright, Intellectual property and
all the rest of the commercial "protect thyne A**" world. Testimony to
this list's generosity.

I remember getting my first 'Browse' dialogue box to work WOW - it
actually opened and returned a file name WOW
I remember thinking I can interface with Windows - WooHoo - I showed my
(Mostly unimpressed) Wife who went on muttering
something about being a propeller-head. Go figure.
She -the unimpressed -refers to you guys as "Your nerd mates on the
List" :-)) (Love it)

Not to mention the friendships - Even had a Mad Pommies and his charming
and beautiful Wife come over to Oz. We hooked up
and have dinner - with my Wife and I. (Hi Andy)

Not to mention the people I harass on the phone - Hi Andy - Stuart -
Kath et al

Love this list

See ya

Darren


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Capistrant
Sent: Friday, 8 April 2005 8:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 

December 1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby,
Jurgen Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among
others.

Steve Capistrant
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Symphony Information Services
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Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
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From greggs at msn.com  Fri Apr  8 08:00:33 2005
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:00:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data
References: <s2550b27.001@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV3F559D38385B5A6B91DB4C63F0@phx.gbl>

Thanks Gustav, I'll check it out.
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  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data


  Hi Greggs

  It could be due to file caching on either the server, the network
  client or both.
  Check with your network admin.

  /gustav

  >>> greggs at msn.com<mailto:greggs at msn.com> 04/06 10:13 pm >>>
  I have a customer who can't always see all his data.  When it started,
  half of the text was missing from a text box.  He entered the missing
  text, went out and back in, and both the new text and the old text
  appeared.  It happened to him again only this time in a subform, all the
  data was missing. retype, leave, return, and all data is duplicated.

  This is visible on multiple systems (he has 6).  Each user has their
  own FE on 2002.  The server is running windows 2000 (last time I was
  there).  It is also happening in different apps.  It's happened a 3rd
  time in a completely different app.  Any ideas? 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr  8 08:01:20 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:01:20 -0400
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
	FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)
In-Reply-To: <000d01c53c32$a5293620$0b08a845@hargrove.internal>
Message-ID: <20050408130121.BOMC2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I don't remember exactly when, but I think I've been on (off and on) for
about that long. 

When I started with Cobb in 92, we didn't have Internet access. Even after I
started using the Internet, all I really had available was CompuServe and
AOL and Cobb tried to create a rather large presence on AOL, and it worked
for a while, but as trends do, it eventually faded. Those were the days
before Internet Explorer even and I was using.. Dang... Netscape I think. :)
I was the only Cobbers that had regular and frequent chats and supported a
message board. It was good fun for a while. Once, the company had sponsored
this huge Cobb chat -- and all that showed up were Cobbers. In retrospect,
it's funny, but at the time, it was very disappointing for many. But for
some reason, the smaller Access chats always got a decent showing -- it went
strong for well over a year. 

I think my interaction with AccessD probably came after that initial online
surge, but I'm sure there was some overlap there. 

I never could get the hang of CompuServe.  

Susan H. 

I found the list back in 1996.




From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Fri Apr  8 08:12:02 2005
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:12:02 +0100 
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finall
	yMadeIt - Thanks)
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CB1E@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Nothing so in depth, I'm afraid.  Roz put me on to it as she got me writing
a rather tricky application, which we now have off the ground and in daily
use.  I'd never, ever written an Access app before (or used Informix - FYI
the two really, REALLY don't like each other) and I needed help!  Hopefully
I can now offer some as well, having had quality advice a-plenty...




-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: 08 April 2005 13:01
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

I don't remember exactly when, but I think I've been on (off and on) for
about that long. 

When I started with Cobb in 92, we didn't have Internet access. Even after I
started using the Internet, all I really had available was CompuServe and
AOL and Cobb tried to create a rather large presence on AOL, and it worked
for a while, but as trends do, it eventually faded. Those were the days
before Internet Explorer even and I was using.. Dang... Netscape I think. :)
I was the only Cobbers that had regular and frequent chats and supported a
message board. It was good fun for a while. Once, the company had sponsored
this huge Cobb chat -- and all that showed up were Cobbers. In retrospect,
it's funny, but at the time, it was very disappointing for many. But for
some reason, the smaller Access chats always got a decent showing -- it went
strong for well over a year. 

I think my interaction with AccessD probably came after that initial online
surge, but I'm sure there was some overlap there. 

I never could get the hang of CompuServe.  

Susan H. 

I found the list back in 1996.


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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Fri Apr  8 08:11:43 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:11:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Can an Access mdb tell how it is being reached?
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D13@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

I don't think Access could tell you, but if you're lucky you might be able to tell.

If someone makes a VPN connection they have to authenticate to the VPN server or it's domain. If they use remote desktop they have to authenticate either to the computer being connected to, or to that computer's domain. So you can query the Environ() function to return the "USERNAME" amd "USERDOMAIN" environment variables.

Now, I'm guessing that by VPN you mean that they will access the database using a mapped drive or UNC path across the VPN. Here comes the luck part. With luck, when using the VPN they have authenticated locally first. This means that probably the "USERDOMAIN" and possibly the "USERNAME" variables will be different when using a VPN vs. remote desktop.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Can an Access mdb tell how it is being reached?


Can an mdb on a server tell if it being contacted by VPN or remote desktop?

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Fri Apr  8 09:44:03 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:44:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Skipping field in report/labels
Message-ID: <s25660cc.057@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Thanks for the help Susan...and others...but what I was actually missing
was the 'Can Grow', which I hadn't thought was necessary. We could
actually get the field to disappear, but the whole row would be gone.  I
hate when something at this level...I see thsi as an Access 101 leve
problem...hold me up, when I feel that I am at a higher level...oh, I'm
definitely humbled by the people on this list, but around here, I'm the
"Access Guy!"

Thanks again!
John Clark

>>> susanj at sgmeet.com 4/6/2005 2:44:30 PM >>>
The setting you're looking for is the 'Can Shrink' option in the design

view.  Set it to yes.
Susan


At 01:19 PM 4/6/05, you wrote:
>I thought there was a setting for this, but I don't see it.
>
>A coworker of mine has whipped up a quick labels program, using A2K.
>There is an "Address1" field and "Address2." as you might expect,
many
>times there is no secondary address info and he wants to ignor this
>then. It currently leaves a blank line, and he wants to push things
up.
>How can we do this?
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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Apr  8 09:58:00 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:58:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B59D4@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <200504081458.j38Ew328388002@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

:o)

I had been archiving all emails until Drew offered to develop a searchable
web interface and requested old archives. I contacted him and sent him
everything I had. After that I gave up my whole archiving habits and
depended on Drew's!

Gladly too. Using Outlook I had just released a huge pile of hard drive
space! (Which back then was a little more valuable.)

Now, every now and then I go through the topics and try to catch up and then
I delete everything 3 months or older.
:o)

I really can't remember exactly when I got on the list but I think it was
1999. There haven't been any names mentioned that I don't remember seeing on
the list except Dev Ashish. I don't think he ever posted anything here since
I've been on but I could certainly be mistaken.


John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the E-mails,
probably a year or so.

I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails?
I now have 111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
:-)

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of 
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have

> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 
> 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From alan.lawhon at us.army.mil  Fri Apr  8 11:01:15 2005
From: alan.lawhon at us.army.mil (Lawhon, Alan C Contractor/Morgan Research)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:01:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Anatomy of an IT Disaster: How the FBI Blew It
Message-ID: <5D5043687CFCE44288407A73E4CC6E179BB42F@redstone819.ad.redstone.army.mil>

Here's an interesting article on the continuing effort to try and
modernize antiquated information systems at the FBI.

 

 

     http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/03/21/12FEfbi_1.html

 

 

Part of the "problem" at the FBI is that computers, software, and
information technology have always been looked down on by the agents.
The special agents are more into grilling suspects, chasing leads,
listening to mobsters on wire tapped phone lines, and catching bank
robbers than they are in sitting at a computer terminal typing an email.
Probably the most glaring example of this mindset occurred when [former]
FBI Director Louis Freeh was shown his office on his first day as FBI
Director.  (Freeh was FBI Director under President Bill Clinton.)
According to people present, Louis Freeh noticed a monitor mounted on a
desk directly behind his swivel chair.  He asked, "What's this?" and was
told, "It's a computer."  Louis Freeh then turned to one of his aides
and said, "Get it out of here."  Word of this exchange quickly filtered
down to all levels of the organization ...

 

Of course, September 11th changed everything at the FBI.  When it was
discovered that agents in the various field offices couldn't even
communicate with each other via email, there was a sudden epiphany that
they needed to get their IT operation into the 21st century.  This
sudden "sense of urgency" at the upper levels of the agency [to get
modernized] was probably heightened by a fear that if the FBI didn't get
its act together, other agencies, (like for instance the CIA or the
Department of Homeland Security), might start trying to persuade members
of Congress that terrorism and anti-terrorism efforts should be handled
by them instead of the FBI.

 

Constant turf battles are an everyday fact of life in the Government ...

 

Alan C. Lawhon

 

 

 



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr  8 11:07:22 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:07:22 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D379@main2.marlow.com>

I'd like everyone to note that I wasn't listed in the list of 'OLD' List
members! <grin>  Made me feel almost as giddy as I do when I get carded for
cigarettes! 

Congrats Virginia!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr  8 11:09:44 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:09:44 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D37A@main2.marlow.com>

Which reminds me, just as an FYI to the list, the archives I'm hosting have
not been updated since October, roughly around the time since I was hit by
that drunk driver.  We were in the middle of moving to Active Directory, and
we demoted our Exchange Server from being a Domain Controller.  Since then,
the original 'archive' code I wrote hasn't been working.  I'm finishing up a
little pet project at the moment, when that's done, I'm going to modify the
archive code to let it catch up and start updating again.

Drew

P.S.--  It was Darren Dick who dragged me to this list, by the way! <grin>

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


:o)

I had been archiving all emails until Drew offered to develop a searchable
web interface and requested old archives. I contacted him and sent him
everything I had. After that I gave up my whole archiving habits and
depended on Drew's!

Gladly too. Using Outlook I had just released a huge pile of hard drive
space! (Which back then was a little more valuable.)

Now, every now and then I go through the topics and try to catch up and then
I delete everything 3 months or older.
:o)

I really can't remember exactly when I got on the list but I think it was
1999. There haven't been any names mentioned that I don't remember seeing on
the list except Dev Ashish. I don't think he ever posted anything here since
I've been on but I could certainly be mistaken.


John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the E-mails,
probably a year or so.

I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails?
I now have 111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
:-)

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of 
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have

> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 
> 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Fri Apr  8 11:29:18 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:29:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC04F3D2@dewey.Symphony.local>

Oops.  I looked at my archives and you ARE definitely old.  :)

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:16 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks

I'd like everyone to note that I wasn't listed in the list of 'OLD' List
members! <grin>  Made me feel almost as giddy as I do when I get carded
for
cigarettes! 




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr  8 11:30:00 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:30:00 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D37E@main2.marlow.com>

Okay, that is not the way to bring someone down from a youthful high.......

Sheesh.....

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


Oops.  I looked at my archives and you ARE definitely old.  :)

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:16 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks

I'd like everyone to note that I wasn't listed in the list of 'OLD' List
members! <grin>  Made me feel almost as giddy as I do when I get carded
for
cigarettes! 


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Apr  8 12:10:37 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:10:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D37A@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c53c5d$e252a7e0$581a0c54@minster33c3r25>

Yea but we've forgiven him  ;-)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: 08 April 2005 17:10
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> Which reminds me, just as an FYI to the list, the archives 
> I'm hosting have not been updated since October, roughly 
> around the time since I was hit by that drunk driver.  We 
> were in the middle of moving to Active Directory, and we 
> demoted our Exchange Server from being a Domain Controller.  
> Since then, the original 'archive' code I wrote hasn't been 
> working.  I'm finishing up a little pet project at the 
> moment, when that's done, I'm going to modify the archive 
> code to let it catch up and start updating again.
> 
> Drew
> 
> P.S.--  It was Darren Dick who dragged me to this list, by 
> the way! <grin>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> :o)
> 
> I had been archiving all emails until Drew offered to develop 
> a searchable web interface and requested old archives. I 
> contacted him and sent him everything I had. After that I 
> gave up my whole archiving habits and depended on Drew's!
> 
> Gladly too. Using Outlook I had just released a huge pile of 
> hard drive space! (Which back then was a little more valuable.)
> 
> Now, every now and then I go through the topics and try to 
> catch up and then I delete everything 3 months or older.
> :o)
> 
> I really can't remember exactly when I got on the list but I 
> think it was 1999. There haven't been any names mentioned 
> that I don't remember seeing on the list except Dev Ashish. I 
> don't think he ever posted anything here since I've been on 
> but I could certainly be mistaken.
> 
> 
> John B.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Erwin Craps - IT Helps
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:51 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
> I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not 
> archived the E-mails, probably a year or so.
> 
> I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived 
> E-mails? I now have 111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
> :-)
> 
> Erwin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> John W. Colby
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: 
> [AccessD] OT: FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at 
> Rockie's house in Del Mar, CA.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kathryn Bassett
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] 
> OT: Finally MadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> 
> Mark A Matte asked:
> > This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
> > all list members...It would be interesting to see how long 
> people have
> 
> > actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
> > 1999.
> 
> John W. Colby:
> > I found the list in July of 1997.
> 
> Kathryn Bassett:
> I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  8 12:25:41 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 19:25:41 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Form Positioning
Message-ID: <s256dacd.041@cactus.dk>

Hi Joe

We use the module below for basic screen metrics.
You should be able to use the sub CenterForm to model your PositionForm
sub by using the handle of the other form and not GetParent().

/gustav

<code>

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

' Windows handle of desktop.
Private Const HWND_DESKTOP    As Long = 0
' Number of Twips per inch.
Private Const TWIPS_PER_INCH  As Long = 1440
' Pixel width.
Private Const LOGPIXELSX      As Long = 88
' Pixel height.
Private Const LOGPIXELSY      As Long = 90
' Screen width.
Private Const SM_CXSCREEN     As Long = 0
' Screen height.
Private Const SM_CYSCREEN     As Long = 1

Public Type RECT
  Left   As Long
  Top    As Long
  Right  As Long
  Bottom As Long
End Type
  
Private Declare Function GetSystemMetrics Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal nIndex As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function GetDC Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
  As Long
  
Private Declare Function ReleaseDC Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
  ByVal hdc As Long) _
  As Long
  
Private Declare Function GetDeviceCaps Lib "gdi32" ( _
  ByVal hdc As Long, _
  ByVal nIndex As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function GetParent Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function GetWindowRect Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
  lpRect As RECT) _
  As Long

Public Declare Function MoveWindow Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
  ByVal X As Long, _
  ByVal Y As Long, _
  ByVal nWidth As Long, _
  ByVal nHeight As Long, _
  ByVal bRepaint As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function ScreenWidth() As Long

' Returns the width of the screen in pixels.

  ScreenWidth = GetSystemMetrics(SM_CXSCREEN)
  
End Function

Public Function ScreenHeight() As Long

' Returns the height of the screen in pixels.

  ScreenHeight = GetSystemMetrics(SM_CYSCREEN)
  
End Function

Public Function TwipsPerPixelX() As Single

' Returns the width of a pixel, in twips.
  
  Dim lngDC             As Long
  Dim sngTwipsPerPixel  As Single
  
  lngDC = GetDC(HWND_DESKTOP)
  sngTwipsPerPixel = TWIPS_PER_INCH / GetDeviceCaps(lngDC, LOGPIXELSX)
  ReleaseDC HWND_DESKTOP, lngDC
  
  TwipsPerPixelX = sngTwipsPerPixel

End Function

Public Function TwipsPerPixelY() As Single

' Returns the height of a pixel, in twips.
  
  Dim lngDC             As Long
  Dim sngTwipsPerPixel  As Single
  
  lngDC = GetDC(HWND_DESKTOP)
  sngTwipsPerPixel = TWIPS_PER_INCH / GetDeviceCaps(lngDC, LOGPIXELSY)
  ReleaseDC HWND_DESKTOP, lngDC

  TwipsPerPixelY = sngTwipsPerPixel

End Function

Public Sub CenterForm(frm As Form)

  Dim rctMDI    As RECT
  Dim lngRetVal As Long
  Dim lngWidth  As Long
  Dim lngHeight As Long
  Dim lngLeft   As Long
  Dim lngTop    As Long
  
  lngRetVal = GetWindowRect(GetParent(frm.hwnd), rctMDI)
  
  lngWidth = frm.WindowWidth \ CLng(TwipsPerPixelX())
  lngHeight = frm.WindowHeight \ CLng(TwipsPerPixelY())
  lngLeft = (rctMDI.Right - rctMDI.Left - lngWidth) \ 2
  If lngLeft < 0 Then
    lngLeft = 0
  End If
  lngTop = (rctMDI.Bottom - rctMDI.Top - lngHeight) \ 2
  If lngTop < 0 Then
    lngTop = 0
  End If
  
  lngRetVal = MoveWindow(frm.hwnd, lngLeft, lngTop, lngWidth,
lngHeight, True)

End Sub

</code>

>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/06 10:33 pm >>>
Hi All,

I want to open a form in a specific location with relation to another
form.
How can I do this?

Thanks!
JR



From bstear at gmail.com  Fri Apr  8 12:26:51 2005
From: bstear at gmail.com (Barry Stear)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:26:51 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Picture
Message-ID: <1af6886405040810264859e924@mail.gmail.com>

I copied the EVENT for inserting an picture from the Sample Database
that comes with Access 2003 (NorthWind Sample Database) . However when
I try to click on the button to insert an picture it errors out in the
code at Sub getFileName(). It says that its not defined. It highlights
in blue msoFileDialogFilePicker and has an Yellow Arrow next to Sub
getFileName(). Here is the procedure.

Sub getFileName()
    ' Displays the Office File Open dialog to choose a file name
    ' for the current employee record.  If the user selects a file
    ' display it in the image control.
    Dim fileName As String
    Dim result As Integer
    With Application.FileDialog(msoFileDialogFilePicker)
        .Title = "Select Employee Picture"
        .Filters.Add "All Files", "*.*"
        .Filters.Add "JPEGs", "*.jpg"
        .Filters.Add "Bitmaps", "*.bmp"
        .FilterIndex = 3
        .AllowMultiSelect = False
        .InitialFileName = CurrentProject.path
        result = .Show
        If (result <> 0) Then
            fileName = Trim(.SelectedItems.Item(1))
            Me![ImagePath].Visible = True
            Me![ImagePath].SetFocus
            Me![ImagePath].Text = fileName
            Me![FirstName].SetFocus
            Me![ImagePath].Visible = False
        End If
    End With
End Sub


Anyone help me with this code or perhaps something else I can use. I
want to be able to put an picture in my Inventory list. I know I can
embed it but its nice to be able to do it from within an form with an
button.

Barry


From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Apr  8 12:31:23 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:31:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Picture
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43013BD206@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Check the references.  I think that is the one that requires Microsoft
Office 10.0 or greater to work.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barry Stear
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:27 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Picture


I copied the EVENT for inserting an picture from the Sample Database
that comes with Access 2003 (NorthWind Sample Database) . However when
I try to click on the button to insert an picture it errors out in the
code at Sub getFileName(). It says that its not defined. It highlights
in blue msoFileDialogFilePicker and has an Yellow Arrow next to Sub
getFileName(). Here is the procedure.

Sub getFileName()
    ' Displays the Office File Open dialog to choose a file name
    ' for the current employee record.  If the user selects a file
    ' display it in the image control.
    Dim fileName As String
    Dim result As Integer
    With Application.FileDialog(msoFileDialogFilePicker)
        .Title = "Select Employee Picture"
        .Filters.Add "All Files", "*.*"
        .Filters.Add "JPEGs", "*.jpg"
        .Filters.Add "Bitmaps", "*.bmp"
        .FilterIndex = 3
        .AllowMultiSelect = False
        .InitialFileName = CurrentProject.path
        result = .Show
        If (result <> 0) Then
            fileName = Trim(.SelectedItems.Item(1))
            Me![ImagePath].Visible = True
            Me![ImagePath].SetFocus
            Me![ImagePath].Text = fileName
            Me![FirstName].SetFocus
            Me![ImagePath].Visible = False
        End If
    End With
End Sub


Anyone help me with this code or perhaps something else I can use. I
want to be able to put an picture in my Inventory list. I know I can
embed it but its nice to be able to do it from within an form with an
button.

Barry
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Fri Apr  8 12:40:49 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:40:49 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Form Positioning
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A21E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks for the help Gustav!

JR
-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:26 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Form Positioning

Hi Joe

We use the module below for basic screen metrics.
You should be able to use the sub CenterForm to model your PositionForm
sub by using the handle of the other form and not GetParent().

/gustav

<code>

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

' Windows handle of desktop.
Private Const HWND_DESKTOP    As Long = 0
' Number of Twips per inch.
Private Const TWIPS_PER_INCH  As Long = 1440
' Pixel width.
Private Const LOGPIXELSX      As Long = 88
' Pixel height.
Private Const LOGPIXELSY      As Long = 90
' Screen width.
Private Const SM_CXSCREEN     As Long = 0
' Screen height.
Private Const SM_CYSCREEN     As Long = 1

Public Type RECT
  Left   As Long
  Top    As Long
  Right  As Long
  Bottom As Long
End Type
 
Private Declare Function GetSystemMetrics Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal nIndex As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function GetDC Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
  As Long
 
Private Declare Function ReleaseDC Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
  ByVal hdc As Long) _
  As Long
 
Private Declare Function GetDeviceCaps Lib "gdi32" ( _
  ByVal hdc As Long, _
  ByVal nIndex As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function GetParent Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function GetWindowRect Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
  lpRect As RECT) _
  As Long

Public Declare Function MoveWindow Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
  ByVal X As Long, _
  ByVal Y As Long, _
  ByVal nWidth As Long, _
  ByVal nHeight As Long, _
  ByVal bRepaint As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function ScreenWidth() As Long

' Returns the width of the screen in pixels.

  ScreenWidth = GetSystemMetrics(SM_CXSCREEN)
 
End Function

Public Function ScreenHeight() As Long

' Returns the height of the screen in pixels.

  ScreenHeight = GetSystemMetrics(SM_CYSCREEN)
 
End Function

Public Function TwipsPerPixelX() As Single

' Returns the width of a pixel, in twips.
 
  Dim lngDC             As Long
  Dim sngTwipsPerPixel  As Single
 
  lngDC = GetDC(HWND_DESKTOP)
  sngTwipsPerPixel = TWIPS_PER_INCH / GetDeviceCaps(lngDC, LOGPIXELSX)
  ReleaseDC HWND_DESKTOP, lngDC
 
  TwipsPerPixelX = sngTwipsPerPixel

End Function

Public Function TwipsPerPixelY() As Single

' Returns the height of a pixel, in twips.
 
  Dim lngDC             As Long
  Dim sngTwipsPerPixel  As Single
 
  lngDC = GetDC(HWND_DESKTOP)
  sngTwipsPerPixel = TWIPS_PER_INCH / GetDeviceCaps(lngDC, LOGPIXELSY)
  ReleaseDC HWND_DESKTOP, lngDC

  TwipsPerPixelY = sngTwipsPerPixel

End Function

Public Sub CenterForm(frm As Form)

  Dim rctMDI    As RECT
  Dim lngRetVal As Long
  Dim lngWidth  As Long
  Dim lngHeight As Long
  Dim lngLeft   As Long
  Dim lngTop    As Long
 
  lngRetVal = GetWindowRect(GetParent(frm.hwnd), rctMDI)
 
  lngWidth = frm.WindowWidth \ CLng(TwipsPerPixelX())
  lngHeight = frm.WindowHeight \ CLng(TwipsPerPixelY())
  lngLeft = (rctMDI.Right - rctMDI.Left - lngWidth) \ 2
  If lngLeft < 0 Then
    lngLeft = 0
  End If
  lngTop = (rctMDI.Bottom - rctMDI.Top - lngHeight) \ 2
  If lngTop < 0 Then
    lngTop = 0
  End If
 
  lngRetVal = MoveWindow(frm.hwnd, lngLeft, lngTop, lngWidth,
lngHeight, True)

End Sub

</code>

>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/06 10:33 pm >>>
Hi All,

I want to open a form in a specific location with relation to another
form.
How can I do this?

Thanks!
JR

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr  8 12:40:34 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:40:34 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D37F@main2.marlow.com>

I haven't yet.... <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Yea but we've forgiven him  ;-)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: 08 April 2005 17:10
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> Which reminds me, just as an FYI to the list, the archives 
> I'm hosting have not been updated since October, roughly 
> around the time since I was hit by that drunk driver.  We 
> were in the middle of moving to Active Directory, and we 
> demoted our Exchange Server from being a Domain Controller.  
> Since then, the original 'archive' code I wrote hasn't been 
> working.  I'm finishing up a little pet project at the 
> moment, when that's done, I'm going to modify the archive 
> code to let it catch up and start updating again.
> 
> Drew
> 
> P.S.--  It was Darren Dick who dragged me to this list, by 
> the way! <grin>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> :o)
> 
> I had been archiving all emails until Drew offered to develop 
> a searchable web interface and requested old archives. I 
> contacted him and sent him everything I had. After that I 
> gave up my whole archiving habits and depended on Drew's!
> 
> Gladly too. Using Outlook I had just released a huge pile of 
> hard drive space! (Which back then was a little more valuable.)
> 
> Now, every now and then I go through the topics and try to 
> catch up and then I delete everything 3 months or older.
> :o)
> 
> I really can't remember exactly when I got on the list but I 
> think it was 1999. There haven't been any names mentioned 
> that I don't remember seeing on the list except Dev Ashish. I 
> don't think he ever posted anything here since I've been on 
> but I could certainly be mistaken.
> 
> 
> John B.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Erwin Craps - IT Helps
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:51 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
> I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not 
> archived the E-mails, probably a year or so.
> 
> I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived 
> E-mails? I now have 111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
> :-)
> 
> Erwin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> John W. Colby
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: 
> [AccessD] OT: FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at 
> Rockie's house in Del Mar, CA.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kathryn Bassett
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] 
> OT: Finally MadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> 
> Mark A Matte asked:
> > This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
> > all list members...It would be interesting to see how long 
> people have
> 
> > actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
> > 1999.
> 
> John W. Colby:
> > I found the list in July of 1997.
> 
> Kathryn Bassett:
> I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.
> 
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Apr  8 13:44:57 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:44:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKEEHAFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

I was given a task to quickly come up with a vehicle maintenance schedule
database. before I get further, I was wondering if anyone already has
something in place.

If not, this is what I have so far:

tblModels:
	ModelID PK
	Model (Camaro, Corvette)

tblAutoMfg
	AutoMfgID PK
	AutoMfg (Chevrolet, Honda)

tblMfgModels
	MfgModelID PK
	AutoMfgID FK
	ModelID FK

tblYears
	YearID PK
	ModelYear (2005, 2004, 2003...)

tblAutoYears
	AutoYearID PK
	YearID FK
	MfgModelID FK

I'm looking at schedules that can be either light duty or heavy duty
The maintenance schedules can also be either date based or mileage (or
kilometer based).

Something like Oil Changes, every 3000 miles or 3 months. But some items
have only date based services and others have only mileage based service
intervals.

I was thinking something like
tblMaintenanceTasks
MaintTaskID
MaintTask (Oil Change, Rotate Tires...)

tblIntervals
IntervalID
Interval (3, 3000, 7500...)
IntervalTypeID

tblIntervalType
IntervalType (Miles, Months)

But I was also thinking of making tblIntervals, a little less normalized,
something like:
tblIntervals
IntervalID
IntervalMiles
IntervalKilos
IntervalMonths

I have also not been told if we will be drilling down into sub model type
(i.e. Mustang GT, Mustang LX), so for now, I am assuming that I will be
relating these suggested service maintenance intervals to tblAutoYears.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
David McAfee



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Apr  8 14:16:33 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:16:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
In-Reply-To: <25494692.1112985837759.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAIi/jwHrRQEWV92CFEoSHkgEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Hi Dave,

This is just me but I would combine all these tables into one.  Everything
here defines the vehicle itself.  Make a tblVehicle with appropriate
columns.  You might be able to use the VIN as a no-duplicate index value.  A
related table would contain information about each maintenance event - work
done, cost, hours, owner (maintenance requestor), mechanic, etc.

Or, you might make a table using customer information, and then the vehicle
table would be subordinate to that.  Each customer will have different
vehicles.

The shops where I take my car to get repaired seem to have fairly good
maintenance databases.  Perhaps buying one of those would be what you're
looking for.

HTH,

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
dmcafee at pacbell.net
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:45 PM
To: ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Cc: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)

I was given a task to quickly come up with a vehicle maintenance schedule
database. before I get further, I was wondering if anyone already has
something in place.

If not, this is what I have so far:

tblModels:
	ModelID PK
	Model (Camaro, Corvette)

tblAutoMfg
	AutoMfgID PK
	AutoMfg (Chevrolet, Honda)

tblMfgModels
	MfgModelID PK
	AutoMfgID FK
	ModelID FK

tblYears
	YearID PK
	ModelYear (2005, 2004, 2003...)

tblAutoYears
	AutoYearID PK
	YearID FK
	MfgModelID FK

I'm looking at schedules that can be either light duty or heavy duty
The maintenance schedules can also be either date based or mileage (or
kilometer based).

Something like Oil Changes, every 3000 miles or 3 months. But some items
have only date based services and others have only mileage based service
intervals.

I was thinking something like
tblMaintenanceTasks
MaintTaskID
MaintTask (Oil Change, Rotate Tires...)

tblIntervals
IntervalID
Interval (3, 3000, 7500...)
IntervalTypeID

tblIntervalType
IntervalType (Miles, Months)

But I was also thinking of making tblIntervals, a little less normalized,
something like:
tblIntervals
IntervalID
IntervalMiles
IntervalKilos
IntervalMonths

I have also not been told if we will be drilling down into sub model type
(i.e. Mustang GT, Mustang LX), so for now, I am assuming that I will be
relating these suggested service maintenance intervals to tblAutoYears.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
David McAfee

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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Fri Apr  8 15:14:22 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:14:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKEEHAFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAAEDDCPAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

David, I am also needing to create a maintenance "module" to add to one of
my products.

Maybe we could work together on this - or at least share ideas.

I have to include heavy equipment (backhoes, graders, loaders, etc.) as well
so I'll also have to track the services by hours rather than miles.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
dmcafee at pacbell.net
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:45 PM
To: ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Cc: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)


I was given a task to quickly come up with a vehicle maintenance schedule
database. before I get further, I was wondering if anyone already has
something in place.

If not, this is what I have so far:

tblModels:
	ModelID PK
	Model (Camaro, Corvette)

tblAutoMfg
	AutoMfgID PK
	AutoMfg (Chevrolet, Honda)

tblMfgModels
	MfgModelID PK
	AutoMfgID FK
	ModelID FK

tblYears
	YearID PK
	ModelYear (2005, 2004, 2003...)

tblAutoYears
	AutoYearID PK
	YearID FK
	MfgModelID FK

I'm looking at schedules that can be either light duty or heavy duty
The maintenance schedules can also be either date based or mileage (or
kilometer based).

Something like Oil Changes, every 3000 miles or 3 months. But some items
have only date based services and others have only mileage based service
intervals.

I was thinking something like
tblMaintenanceTasks
MaintTaskID
MaintTask (Oil Change, Rotate Tires...)

tblIntervals
IntervalID
Interval (3, 3000, 7500...)
IntervalTypeID

tblIntervalType
IntervalType (Miles, Months)

But I was also thinking of making tblIntervals, a little less normalized,
something like:
tblIntervals
IntervalID
IntervalMiles
IntervalKilos
IntervalMonths

I have also not been told if we will be drilling down into sub model type
(i.e. Mustang GT, Mustang LX), so for now, I am assuming that I will be
relating these suggested service maintenance intervals to tblAutoYears.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
David McAfee

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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Apr  8 15:30:54 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:30:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
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Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKEHDFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

This isn't a "one vehicle specific" or "work performed" database.

It is more along the lines of your last paragraph. I work for a company that
supplies the auto industry with those types of Dbs. The trouble is, that
everything is always denormalized. The system I am now working on will be a
supplement to the current CDs, since they're data is usually 6 months into
the year before it is published. This may possibly be web based, but I am
currently doing the rapid design as an ADP to get a working demo.  I was
thinking since I have a chance to get the design right, I might as well do
that.

David

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)


Hi Dave,

This is just me but I would combine all these tables into one.  Everything
here defines the vehicle itself.  Make a tblVehicle with appropriate
columns.  You might be able to use the VIN as a no-duplicate index value.  A
related table would contain information about each maintenance event - work
done, cost, hours, owner (maintenance requestor), mechanic, etc.

Or, you might make a table using customer information, and then the vehicle
table would be subordinate to that.  Each customer will have different
vehicles.

The shops where I take my car to get repaired seem to have fairly good
maintenance databases.  Perhaps buying one of those would be what you're
looking for.

HTH,

Dan Waters

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dmcafee at pacbell.net
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:45 PM
To: ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Cc: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)

I was given a task to quickly come up with a vehicle maintenance schedule
database. before I get further, I was wondering if anyone already has
something in place.

If not, this is what I have so far:

tblModels:
	ModelID PK
	Model (Camaro, Corvette)

tblAutoMfg
	AutoMfgID PK
	AutoMfg (Chevrolet, Honda)

tblMfgModels
	MfgModelID PK
	AutoMfgID FK
	ModelID FK

tblYears
	YearID PK
	ModelYear (2005, 2004, 2003...)

tblAutoYears
	AutoYearID PK
	YearID FK
	MfgModelID FK

I'm looking at schedules that can be either light duty or heavy duty
The maintenance schedules can also be either date based or mileage (or
kilometer based).

Something like Oil Changes, every 3000 miles or 3 months. But some items
have only date based services and others have only mileage based service
intervals.

I was thinking something like
tblMaintenanceTasks
MaintTaskID
MaintTask (Oil Change, Rotate Tires...)

tblIntervals
IntervalID
Interval (3, 3000, 7500...)
IntervalTypeID

tblIntervalType
IntervalType (Miles, Months)

But I was also thinking of making tblIntervals, a little less normalized,
something like:
tblIntervals
IntervalID
IntervalMiles
IntervalKilos
IntervalMonths

I have also not been told if we will be drilling down into sub model type
(i.e. Mustang GT, Mustang LX), so for now, I am assuming that I will be
relating these suggested service maintenance intervals to tblAutoYears.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
David McAfee

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From dajomigo at tpg.com.au  Fri Apr  8 15:54:22 2005
From: dajomigo at tpg.com.au (David & Joanne Gould)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:54:22 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Checking input datatype
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20050409065033.03bc4300@mail.tpg.com.au>

I am trying to check for the datatype of a user's keyboard entry. They are 
typing into a combo box that should check the first keystroke to see if it 
is a number or a letter. Once it has decided which it is it can then choose 
which query to use for the combo box. Everything is fine except that I 
can't work out how to check the datatype.

TIA

David Gould
DG Solutions




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Apr  8 16:03:39 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:03:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D379@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <003701c53c7e$732a3920$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

>Made me feel almost as giddy as I do when I get carded for cigarettes! 

Hmmm... Not sure you'll live long enough to be considered an "old" list
member.

<BIG grin>

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:07 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


I'd like everyone to note that I wasn't listed in the list of 'OLD' List
members! <grin>  Made me feel almost as giddy as I do when I get carded for
cigarettes! 

Congrats Virginia!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, Charlotte,
etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been awhile since I have
posted to the list & the new ones probably won't remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It took
awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to everyone on
the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia

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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Apr  8 16:09:12 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:09:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Checking input datatype
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20050409065033.03bc4300@mail.tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEHEFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

in the combo box OnChange event:
If LEN(me.cboMyCombo) >1 THen
	If ISNUMERIC(LEFT(me.cboMyCombo,1)) = True Then
		me.cboMyCombo.Rowsource = "qryNumberUsed"
	Else
		me.cboMyCombo.Rowsource = "qryLetterUsed"
	End if
ENd if

HTH
David McAfee
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David & Joanne
Gould
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:54 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Checking input datatype


I am trying to check for the datatype of a user's keyboard entry. They are
typing into a combo box that should check the first keystroke to see if it
is a number or a letter. Once it has decided which it is it can then choose
which query to use for the combo box. Everything is fine except that I
can't work out how to check the datatype.

TIA

David Gould
DG Solutions


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From dajomigo at tpg.com.au  Fri Apr  8 16:39:46 2005
From: dajomigo at tpg.com.au (David & Joanne Gould)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 07:39:46 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Checking input datatype
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEHEFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
References: <6.0.0.22.2.20050409065033.03bc4300@mail.tpg.com.au>
	<KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEHEFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20050409073835.03bdf4d8@mail.tpg.com.au>

Thanks, David

Both for your prompt reply and your answer, it works perfectly

David

At 07:09 AM 9/04/2005, you wrote:
>in the combo box OnChange event:
>If LEN(me.cboMyCombo) >1 THen
>         If ISNUMERIC(LEFT(me.cboMyCombo,1)) = True Then
>                 me.cboMyCombo.Rowsource = "qryNumberUsed"
>         Else
>                 me.cboMyCombo.Rowsource = "qryLetterUsed"
>         End if
>ENd if
>
>HTH
>David McAfee
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David & Joanne
>Gould
>Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:54 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Checking input datatype
>
>
>I am trying to check for the datatype of a user's keyboard entry. They are
>typing into a combo box that should check the first keystroke to see if it
>is a number or a letter. Once it has decided which it is it can then choose
>which query to use for the combo box. Everything is fine except that I
>can't work out how to check the datatype.
>
>TIA
>
>David Gould
>DG Solutions
>
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr  8 18:29:11 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:29:11 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D383@main2.marlow.com>

I consider smoking a sacrifice.  It helps ensure the longevity of many,
many, many people around me.....

<grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:04 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


>Made me feel almost as giddy as I do when I get carded for cigarettes! 

Hmmm... Not sure you'll live long enough to be considered an "old" list
member.

<BIG DEFANGED_grin>

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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http://folding.stanford.edu/

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:07 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


I'd like everyone to note that I wasn't listed in the list of 'OLD' List
members! <grin>  Made me feel almost as giddy as I do when I get carded for
cigarettes! 

Congrats Virginia!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, Charlotte,
etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been awhile since I have
posted to the list & the new ones probably won't remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It took
awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to everyone on
the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia

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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  8 19:37:10 2005
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:37:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Was Ghosts: Embarrassment
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050409003710.27026.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com>

Oh Dear!

Thanks Paul!

I have to go public in case there are people pondering this problem. 

Imported the form from somewhere else. Never thought of select all,
which brought up another couple of hidden fields in the background.

How embarrassing! 

Very red faced,

Chris




		
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr  8 19:59:32 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:59:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Was Ghosts: Embarrassment
In-Reply-To: <20050409003710.27026.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com>
References: 6667
Message-ID: <4257B594.22405.ABF86AF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 8 Apr 2005 at 17:37, Chris Enright wrote:

> Oh Dear!
> 
> Thanks Paul!
> 
> I have to go public in case there are people pondering this problem. 
> 
> Imported the form from somewhere else. Never thought of select all,
> which brought up another couple of hidden fields in the background.
> 
> How embarrassing! 
> 
> Very red faced,
> 

Did you get my email:

It's quite simple.  Look at frmEnterPIN in design view.
In addition to the visible label, button and PIN textbox, frmEnterPIN has 
two text boxes (Text9 and Text11) and a Rectangle (Box0).  You are using 
the rectangle to set the background of the form and the two text boxes are 
normally hidden behind it.

These text boxes have their Visible property set to True and their TabStop 
property set to True. When you use the Tab key, you cycle through the 
controls setting the Focus to each one in turn. When the focus is set to 
Text9 or Text11, they are displayed in fromt of the Rectangle.

Solution: 

1. Get rid of the Rectangle and just set the background colour of the 
Detail section of the form to the colour you want.
2. Set the Visible property of the two textboxes to False.

 -- 
Stuart




From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Apr  9 10:26:02 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:26:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] The DatabaseAdvisors web site
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43013BD206@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <0IEO006E9QVD9Y@l-daemon>

Hi All:

The new Databaseadvisors web site is now up and running. The site is mostly
written in CSS, thanks to Byran and has a fresh look and feel. There is a
new set of articles and a new Gazette article. Check it out and see what you
think of our new site. www.databaseadvisors.com 

If there are any questions comments or concern please address them to me the
webmaster and site janitor.

There is more to come but it will have to wait.

Thank all the people that contributed time and articles, it could not have
been completed without them.

Thanks for your patience.
Jim Lawrence 



From chise at charter.net  Sat Apr  9 11:41:46 2005
From: chise at charter.net (Charles Hise)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:41:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
Message-ID: <3spcf3$68mdj3@mxip04a.cluster1.charter.net>

Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who did
not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who did
attend;

 

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining ON
tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR
(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

 

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who attended
other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

 

Charles Hise

 

 



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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Apr  9 11:42:45 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:42:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
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References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<015201c538bf$3cf22ba0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42580605.80600@rogers.com>

First of all, I would question the usefulness of placing the objects in 
numerous tables. The first problem with this design is the fact that you 
have to add new tables relatively frequently. I would suggest -- at 
least for purposes of kicking it around -- another structure in which 
two tables -- ObjectTypes and Objects -- are used. Every time you need a 
new object type, you add a row to that table. This new object may 
require new columns that are not yet present in Objects. So you add 
them. Then you create a view/query for each object type that exposes 
only those rows from Objects that are relevant to said object type. For 
example, automobiles have a VIN#, CDs don't, and so on. But on the other 
hand, virtually all the objects have things in common, such as 
Description, purchase date, purchase price and so on, so all queries 
will contain these columns. A good way to do that is to create one query 
that includes all the common columns, and additional queries (one per 
object type) that add the columns unique to that type.

One significant advantage to this design is the ease with which you can 
produce a report that includes all objects of all object types -- just 
report the common columns.

Once you have the queries for each object type, you could generate 
autoForms, set their default to DataSheet, then create a master form 
with a tab control, and plonk each DS form onto its own tab. The master 
form could be based on the ObjectTypes table, making the links to the 
Objects table a no-brainer.

Assuming that you have a list of the properties for each object type, 
you could do this whole app in a morning.

Arthur

Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

> Steve:
>
> Not really responsive but I have to question why he wants to do this 
> at all? Unless it's just a busman's holiday, why not just create a 
> list of his albums, a list of his books, a list of his cassettes in a 
> word doc print it out and be done.  Then he'd know everything he needs 
> by looking at the lists, no?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 5:26 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
>
>
>> Dear Group,
>>
>> A friend who's pretty sharp on computers (PHP development and a fair
>> amount of VB.NET) asked me to help him figure out a way to handle his
>> home inventory. He has LPs, Books, video cassettes, etc., half a dozen
>> different categories in all of things he wants to record in tables. So
>> far he's made an individual collection table for each type of item:
>> Books, LPs, Videos, etc.
>>
>> His question was how to make a master table that had common
>> information in it -- purchase date, purchase price, location in house,
>> and category. He was also trying to figure out a way to have a big
>> master form, perhaps with a tab object, and subforms for all the
>> tables containing his collections.
>>
>> I admit that I was a bit stumped. It's easy enough to determine that
>> the master table should have, say, an AutoNumber key field for each
>> item in his entire home inventory and that the individual item tables
>> would link to the master through a foreign key or simply with a Long
>> Integer field containing the Master key. But there would be a
>> one-to-one link between the master and the collection tables.
>>
>> But what he'd like to do is see multiple rows for each of his
>> collection items at the same time. This implies that the subforms
>> would NOT be linked to the master. If they WERE linked to the master,
>> then only ONE item from ONE collection table would show up.
>>
>> Have you lot ever tried something like this? His notion is that if the
>> Master table contains the location for each item then he can easily
>> query the master to find all the items in, say, the upstairs closet.
>> But then creating a report or a query might be a struggle since he
>> could conceivably have items from six different collections in that
>> closet...or only four of the collections.
>>
>> I think you get the drift. Each collection has enough unique
>> information that keeping the items in separate tables makes sense, but
>> pulling all the information together to make an inventory valuation
>> might be a chore. Any ideas?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Steve Erbach
>> Scientific Marketing
>> Neenah, WI
>> www.swerbach.com
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr  9 11:49:20 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:49:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
In-Reply-To: <3spcf3$68mdj3@mxip04a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <20050409164920.PBPZ4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

What does the id value 10 signify? Also, what do the status values of 1 and
2 represent?

Susan H. 

Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who did
not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who did
attend;

 

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining ON
tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR
(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

 

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who attended
other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

 

Charles Hise

 

 



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From chise at charter.net  Sat Apr  9 11:51:40 2005
From: chise at charter.net (Charles Hise)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:51:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
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Message-ID: <3rr89m$t5a19s@mxip15a.cluster1.charter.net>

Susan
10 is the courseID and status 1 active 2 on leave 3 terminated 
Charles Hise


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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service

What does the id value 10 signify? Also, what do the status values of 1 and
2 represent?

Susan H. 

Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who did
not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who did
attend;

 

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining ON
tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR
(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

 

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who attended
other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

 

Charles Hise

 

 



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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr  9 11:56:45 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:56:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
In-Reply-To: <3rr89m$t5a19s@mxip15a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <20050409165645.PEXB4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

So, there is no value for "didn't attend?" Do you leave the field Null
(blank)? Or does 2 "on leave" mean "didn't attend"?

Susan H. 

Susan
10 is the courseID and status 1 active 2 on leave 3 terminated Charles Hise


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service

What does the id value 10 signify? Also, what do the status values of 1 and
2 represent?

Susan H. 

Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who did
not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who did
attend;

 

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining ON
tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR
(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

 

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who attended
other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

 

Charles Hise

 

 



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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr  9 11:58:38 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:58:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
In-Reply-To: <3rr89m$t5a19s@mxip15a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <20050409165838.PFSW4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Have you tried

WHERE tblCoursesTaught.ID=10 AND tblEmployee.status=2)

I don't understand why you're including the 1 value with an Or operator --
active seems to suggest that they attended?

Susan H. 

Susan
10 is the courseID and status 1 active 2 on leave 3 terminated Charles Hise


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service

What does the id value 10 signify? Also, what do the status values of 1 and
2 represent?

Susan H. 

Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who did
not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who did
attend;

 

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining ON
tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR
(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

 

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who attended
other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

 

Charles Hise

 

 



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From erbachs at gmail.com  Sat Apr  9 12:00:58 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:00:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <42580605.80600@rogers.com>
References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<015201c538bf$3cf22ba0$6401a8c0@HAL9004> <42580605.80600@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050409100016618897@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you, Arthur. I thought, at first, about suggesting the addition
of columns to a master table as you did. It seemed to be one of those
relational thingummies that we're taught to avoid. Granted, your
solution is much the simplest -- leaving out the flower children on
this list.

Steve Erbach

On Apr 9, 2005 11:42 AM, Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> First of all, I would question the usefulness of placing the objects in
> numerous tables. The first problem with this design is the fact that you
> have to add new tables relatively frequently. I would suggest -- at
> least for purposes of kicking it around -- another structure in which
> two tables -- ObjectTypes and Objects -- are used. Every time you need a
> new object type, you add a row to that table. This new object may
> require new columns that are not yet present in Objects. So you add
> them. Then you create a view/query for each object type that exposes
> only those rows from Objects that are relevant to said object type. For
> example, automobiles have a VIN#, CDs don't, and so on. But on the other
> hand, virtually all the objects have things in common, such as
> Description, purchase date, purchase price and so on, so all queries
> will contain these columns. A good way to do that is to create one query
> that includes all the common columns, and additional queries (one per
> object type) that add the columns unique to that type.
> 
> One significant advantage to this design is the ease with which you can
> produce a report that includes all objects of all object types -- just
> report the common columns.
> 
> Once you have the queries for each object type, you could generate
> autoForms, set their default to DataSheet, then create a master form
> with a tab control, and plonk each DS form onto its own tab. The master
> form could be based on the ObjectTypes table, making the links to the
> Objects table a no-brainer.
> 
> Assuming that you have a list of the properties for each object type,
> you could do this whole app in a morning.
> 
> Arthur


From chise at charter.net  Sat Apr  9 12:11:34 2005
From: chise at charter.net (Charles Hise)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:11:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
In-Reply-To: <20050409165838.PFSW4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <3spdi8$683l4m@mxip14a.cluster1.charter.net>

Sorry, for the confusing statement, I have the following tables:
Tbl 1			Tbl 2				Tbl 3
tblEmployee	tblEmployeeTraining	tblCoursesTaught
empId		empId				date
Name,Etc.	id				coursetitle
Status	tblCoursesTaught_ID	id

Status filters for Current and onLeave employees only
Hope this helps.

Charles Hise


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service

Have you tried

WHERE tblCoursesTaught.ID=10 AND tblEmployee.status=2)

I don't understand why you're including the 1 value with an Or operator --
active seems to suggest that they attended?

Susan H. 

Susan
10 is the courseID and status 1 active 2 on leave 3 terminated Charles Hise


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service

What does the id value 10 signify? Also, what do the status values of 1 and
2 represent?

Susan H. 

Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who did
not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who did
attend;

 

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining ON
tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR
(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

 

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who attended
other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

 

Charles Hise

 

 



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr  9 12:33:55 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:33:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Word closes before it shows the user the document
References: <OFC9BD66EA.E6C1361D-ONCA256FDC.00209181@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <42581203.6060406@shaw.ca>

Just maybe this is it, part way through your code you suddenly

    Set objWord = Nothing 


                objWord.Activate    ' Activates Word
                objWord.Visible = True    ' Show Word to the user.
                objWord.WindowState = wdWindowStateMaximize
                Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.



connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Now trying to fix a 2nd database which is not working, written in Access97.
>Problem is there is a Form letter function (code below) when I call this
>function it opens word but no document appears in the window. The popup to
>ask if it printed OK appears but the document is not visible to the user
>and no printing occurs. If I comment out the line
>'.Documents(strMainDocument).Close SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges I get a
>program monitor error but the document is visible.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Connie Kamrowski
>
>Analyst/Programmer
>Information Technology
>NSW Department of Primary Industries
>Orange
>
>
>Public Sub Export_Word()
>Dim rsA0001 As Recordset
>
>Dim objWord As Word.Application
>Dim strMainDocument As String
>
>Dim dbExportWord As Database
>Dim rsExportWord As Recordset
>Dim booPrintBackground As Boolean
>
>
>gfLetterPrintedOK = False 'Value will be set to true if the user verifies
>that the letter printed
>
>' Resume to the next line following the error.
>On Error Resume Next
>
>' Attempt to reference Word which is already running.
>Set objWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")
>If Err = 429 Then
>    Set objWord = New Word.Application
>    Err = 0
>End If
>
>
>' If true, Word is not running.
>If objWord Is Nothing Then
>        ' Create a new instance of the Word application.
>        Set objWord = New Word.Application
>        ' If true, MS Word is not installed.
>        If objWord Is Nothing Then
>                MsgBox "MS Word is not installed on your computer"
>                GoTo ExitRoutine
>        End If 'objWord Is Nothing
>End If 'objWord Is Nothing
>
>'Check to Ensure the temporary RTF file has been deleted, if not, Delete it
>    gstrWordDirectory = Dir$(strTempRTFFile, vbNormal)
>        If gstrWordDirectory <> "" Then
>                On Error GoTo Failure 'Displays 'File Access Error (#71) if
>a form letter is already open
>                    Kill strTempRTFFile
>                On Error Resume Next
>        End If 'gstrWordDirectory <> ""
>
>    If gstrAccessWordQuery = "" Then
>                    'Print Blank Form
>                        objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate)
>                Else
>                    DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputQuery, gstrAccessWordQuery, _
>                        acFormatRTF, strTempRTFFile, False
>                    objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate) 'Template document
>'*.dot'
>                    strMainDocument = objWord.ActiveDocument.Name 'Sets the
>name of the 'Main Document' (template document)
>                    'so that it can be closed later
>
>                    With objWord.ActiveDocument.MailMerge
>                        .SuppressBlankLines = True
>                        .ViewMailMergeFieldCodes = False
>                        .Destination = wdSendToNewDocument
>                        .Execute
>                    End With
>
>                    With objWord 'Close Main Document
>                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Activate
>                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Close
>SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges
>                           ' Store background printing option.
>
>
>
>                     End With
>
>                objWord.Activate    ' Activates Word
>                objWord.Visible = True    ' Show Word to the user.
>                objWord.WindowState = wdWindowStateMaximize
>                Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.
>
>            On Error GoTo Failure
>
>                If MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?", vbYesNo,
>"Form Letters") = vbYes Then
>
>                        gfLetterPrintedOK = True
>                        Set dbExportWord = CurrentDb()
>                        Set rsExportWord =
>dbExportWord.OpenRecordset("tblLettersSent", dbOpenDynaset, dbFailOnError)
>
>                        With rsExportWord
>                            .AddNew
>                                !LTRLPBNumber = gstrRLPBNumber
>                                !LTPropertyID = glngMainPropertyID
>                                !LTFormLetterID = gstrFormLetterID
>                                !LTComment = gstrFormLetterComment
>                                !LTDatePrinted = Date
>                                !LTTimePrinted = Time
>                            .Update
>                        End With
>
>                        Select Case getgstrFormLetterID()
>                            Case "A0001"
>                                dbExportWord.Execute "A000104",
>dbFailOnError
>
>                        End Select
>                End If 'MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?"...
>      End If 'gstrAccessWordQuery = ""
>
>
>ExitRoutine:
>    On Error Resume Next
>        rsExportWord.Close
>        Set rsExportWord = Nothing
>        dbExportWord.Close
>        Set dbExportWord = Nothing
>        rsA0001.Close
>        Set rsA0001 = Nothing
>        Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.
>    Exit Sub
>
>Failure:
>        Call ErrorHandler(strProcedureName:="Export_Word",
>lngErrorNumber:=Err.Number, _
>            strErrorDescription:=Err.Description, _
>            strErrorSource:=Err.Source)
>        Resume ExitRoutine
>
> End Sub
>
>
>
>
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From pjewett at bayplace.com  Sat Apr  9 12:45:16 2005
From: pjewett at bayplace.com (Phil Jewett)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:45:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend an in-service
Message-ID: <F24E31ECF2C99349AACF5C51856D5F888307@pluto2.home.bayplace.com>

This is solved with a subquery to exclude those that DID attend course
10:
 
SELECT tblEmployee.empID from tblEmployee
 
WHERE (tblEmployee.status = 1 or tblEmployee.status = 2)
 
AND tblEmployeeID NOT IN
 
(SELECT tblEmployee.empID
FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining
ON tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID
WHERE tblCoursesTaught.ID = 10) ;
 
Almost always when you are working on a query that includes the dreaded
words 'and did not...' then you need a subquery to solve it.
 
Phil Jewett
Phil Jewett Consulting
pjewett at bayplace.com
(619 318-4899
 
Original message:
 
Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who
did not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who
did attend;

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining
ON tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR

(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who
attended other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

Charles Hise

 


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr  9 12:56:21 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:56:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] AXP fails to install ..continued
References: <ff.10f4131b.2f867017@aol.com>
Message-ID: <42581745.10108@shaw.ca>

I just checked my system, I have mine, User set to Canadian English 
through control Panel
You might have users with different language defaults, some may only be 
changeable through an admin install
Without an admin install may not allow this codepage changing.
The system default depends on the language install of Windows. I 
installled US version of Windows.
Someone may have installed US version of windows then setup for German 
windows with multilanguage pack.
or have simply installed the German Versions of windows.
Some variation of this maybe the problem. I think the osplcid runtime 
should match the OS default lcid.
I am just clutching at straws..

System default LCID:    1033 (0x00000409)
System default LANGID:  1033 (0x0409) English (United States)
System default UI Lang: 1033 (0x0409) English (United States)
User default LCID:      4105 (0x00001009)
User default LANGID:    4105 (0x1009) English (Canadian)
User default UI Lang:   1033 (0x0409) English (United States)

You can get this info from the registry, I just happened to have a 
recent debug program from Google labs
that dumps this info to the clipboard.

JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com wrote:

> 
>Hi  Marty, 
>You were right about  setup.lst having the language set to 1033 also in the 
>same file under [runtime]  the OSPLCID (what ever that is) was set to 1033.  I 
>changed the language setting to 2057  without success then the OSPLCID=2057 
>again without success. I then ran the  Runtime SP3 again. No joy. This was now 
>getting tedious. As desperate attempt to  get the thing working I manually 
>installed Access XP runtime on the user?s PC  and copied the db front end as well 
>and it works as it should.   
>Thank you once more  for your input. 
>john  bell
>  
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr  9 13:29:34 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:29:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Picture
References: <1af6886405040810264859e924@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42581F0E.2080500@shaw.ca>

Have a look at Candace Tripps methods to call API file dialogs
for images or other files via filters for 97 and 2000
download Picture database and windows common dialogs
Similar to code on Dev Ashish's site http://www.mvps.org/access

http://www.candace-tripp.com/pages/access_downloads.aspx

Barry Stear wrote:

>I copied the EVENT for inserting an picture from the Sample Database
>that comes with Access 2003 (NorthWind Sample Database) . However when
>I try to click on the button to insert an picture it errors out in the
>code at Sub getFileName(). It says that its not defined. It highlights
>in blue msoFileDialogFilePicker and has an Yellow Arrow next to Sub
>getFileName(). Here is the procedure.
>
>Sub getFileName()
>    ' Displays the Office File Open dialog to choose a file name
>    ' for the current employee record.  If the user selects a file
>    ' display it in the image control.
>    Dim fileName As String
>    Dim result As Integer
>    With Application.FileDialog(msoFileDialogFilePicker)
>        .Title = "Select Employee Picture"
>        .Filters.Add "All Files", "*.*"
>        .Filters.Add "JPEGs", "*.jpg"
>        .Filters.Add "Bitmaps", "*.bmp"
>        .FilterIndex = 3
>        .AllowMultiSelect = False
>        .InitialFileName = CurrentProject.path
>        result = .Show
>        If (result <> 0) Then
>            fileName = Trim(.SelectedItems.Item(1))
>            Me![ImagePath].Visible = True
>            Me![ImagePath].SetFocus
>            Me![ImagePath].Text = fileName
>            Me![FirstName].SetFocus
>            Me![ImagePath].Visible = False
>        End If
>    End With
>End Sub
>
>
>Anyone help me with this code or perhaps something else I can use. I
>want to be able to put an picture in my Inventory list. I know I can
>embed it but its nice to be able to do it from within an form with an
>button.
>
>Barry
>  
>

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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Apr  9 14:34:26 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:34:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f3050409100016618897@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>	<015201c538bf$3cf22ba0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
	<42580605.80600@rogers.com>
	<39cb22f3050409100016618897@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42582E42.2020802@rogers.com>

At my ripe old age, especially given that this is a home-app, quick is 
better than theory LOL.

A.

Steve Erbach wrote:

>Thank you, Arthur. I thought, at first, about suggesting the addition
>of columns to a master table as you did. It seemed to be one of those
>relational thingummies that we're taught to avoid. Granted, your
>solution is much the simplest -- leaving out the flower children on
>this list.
>
>Steve Erbach
>
>  
>
>


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From handyman at actcom.co.il  Sat Apr  9 15:38:39 2005
From: handyman at actcom.co.il (handyman at actcom.co.il)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:38:39 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKEEHAFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050409223737.02a8be00@pop5.actcom.net.il>

you can look at http://www.arcpress.com/   for ideas......

gm

At 11:44 AM, 4/8/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>I was given a task to quickly come up with a vehicle maintenance schedule
>database. before I get further, I was wondering if anyone already has
>something in place.
>
>If not, this is what I have so far:
>
>tblModels:
>         ModelID PK
>         Model (Camaro, Corvette)
>
>tblAutoMfg
>         AutoMfgID PK
>         AutoMfg (Chevrolet, Honda)
>
>tblMfgModels
>         MfgModelID PK
>         AutoMfgID FK
>         ModelID FK
>
>tblYears
>         YearID PK
>         ModelYear (2005, 2004, 2003...)
>
>tblAutoYears
>         AutoYearID PK
>         YearID FK
>         MfgModelID FK
>
>I'm looking at schedules that can be either light duty or heavy duty
>The maintenance schedules can also be either date based or mileage (or
>kilometer based).
>
>Something like Oil Changes, every 3000 miles or 3 months. But some items
>have only date based services and others have only mileage based service
>intervals.
>
>I was thinking something like
>tblMaintenanceTasks
>MaintTaskID
>MaintTask (Oil Change, Rotate Tires...)
>
>tblIntervals
>IntervalID
>Interval (3, 3000, 7500...)
>IntervalTypeID
>
>tblIntervalType
>IntervalType (Miles, Months)
>
>But I was also thinking of making tblIntervals, a little less normalized,
>something like:
>tblIntervals
>IntervalID
>IntervalMiles
>IntervalKilos
>IntervalMonths
>
>I have also not been told if we will be drilling down into sub model type
>(i.e. Mustang GT, Mustang LX), so for now, I am assuming that I will be
>relating these suggested service maintenance intervals to tblAutoYears.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>TIA,
>David McAfee
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr  9 14:43:24 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:43:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAIi/jwHrRQEWV92CFEoSHkgEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <4258305C.5040608@shaw.ca>

Here is a site with about 500 data models, with some you can get access 
mdb structures emailed.
You may have to mix and match from the examples

Barry Williams  'Kick-Start' Data Models
http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/index.htm

The VIN contains six sections:  over 17 digits
with a lot of info you might want to purchase a dll that breaks this 
down if useful
plus info changes yearly.
 there is a check digit included to stop transposition errors.

I would be suprised if there isn't a pay webservice to decode VIN  
accessible by soap.

The World Manufacturer Identification, or WMI, which identifies the 
country and company that assembled the vehicle.
In the United States, the WMI is assigned by the Society for Automotive 
Engineering (SAE).
The model year of the vehicle, using a single-letter code which is 
standardized for all manufacturers.
The model description, in a format chosen by the manufacturer.
The manufacturing plant, in a format chosen by the manufacturer.
The serial number of the vehicle, in a format chosen by the manufacturer.
A check digit used to validate the VIN's validity.
The check digit is calculated using an algorithm which is standardized 
for all manufacturers.

For example, the breakdown sheet for a 1996 General Motors vehicle 
offers several possibilities for body styles and engines.

A 2-door hatchback is a "2" in position 6
A 5.7 liter V-8 engine is a "5" in position 8

http://www.tedcrane.com/DISCOtech/VIN_Data.htp
http://www.autoinsurancetips.com/vin.htm
http://www.analogx.com/contents/vinview.htm
Maybe check Chilton manuals for a breakdown

VIN 1FMZU34E6XUC84xxx

1FM=  multi-purpose vehicle built by Ford Motor Company USA
Z=    relates to GVW information.  I think Z equals 5000-6000 lbs.
U34=  4-door Explorer 4x4
E=    4.0L SOHC six-cylinder engine
6=    check digit
X=    model year 1999
U=    built in Louisville, Kentucky
C84xxx= vehicle build sequence



Dan Waters wrote:

>Hi Dave,
>
>This is just me but I would combine all these tables into one.  Everything
>here defines the vehicle itself.  Make a tblVehicle with appropriate
>columns.  You might be able to use the VIN as a no-duplicate index value.  A
>related table would contain information about each maintenance event - work
>done, cost, hours, owner (maintenance requestor), mechanic, etc.
>
>Or, you might make a table using customer information, and then the vehicle
>table would be subordinate to that.  Each customer will have different
>vehicles.
>
>The shops where I take my car to get repaired seem to have fairly good
>maintenance databases.  Perhaps buying one of those would be what 
>


>you're
>looking for.
>
>HTH,
>
>Dan Waters
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>dmcafee at pacbell.net
>Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:45 PM
>To: ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
>Cc: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
>
>I was given a task to quickly come up with a vehicle maintenance schedule
>database. before I get further, I was wondering if anyone already has
>something in place.
>
>If not, this is what I have so far:
>
>tblModels:
>	ModelID PK
>	Model (Camaro, Corvette)
>
>tblAutoMfg
>	AutoMfgID PK
>	AutoMfg (Chevrolet, Honda)
>
>tblMfgModels
>	MfgModelID PK
>	AutoMfgID FK
>	ModelID FK
>
>tblYears
>	YearID PK
>	ModelYear (2005, 2004, 2003...)
>
>tblAutoYears
>	AutoYearID PK
>	YearID FK
>	MfgModelID FK
>
>I'm looking at schedules that can be either light duty or heavy duty
>The maintenance schedules can also be either date based or mileage (or
>kilometer based).
>
>Something like Oil Changes, every 3000 miles or 3 months. But some items
>have only date based services and others have only mileage based service
>intervals.
>
>I was thinking something like
>tblMaintenanceTasks
>MaintTaskID
>MaintTask (Oil Change, Rotate Tires...)
>
>tblIntervals
>IntervalID
>Interval (3, 3000, 7500...)
>IntervalTypeID
>
>tblIntervalType
>IntervalType (Miles, Months)
>
>But I was also thinking of making tblIntervals, a little less normalized,
>something like:
>tblIntervals
>IntervalID
>IntervalMiles
>IntervalKilos
>IntervalMonths
>
>I have also not been told if we will be drilling down into sub model type
>(i.e. Mustang GT, Mustang LX), so for now, I am assuming that I will be
>relating these suggested service maintenance intervals to tblAutoYears.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>TIA,
>David McAfee
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Sat Apr  9 15:07:18 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:07:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050409223737.02a8be00@pop5.actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKCEALCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sat Apr  9 15:09:31 2005
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:09:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
In-Reply-To: <4258305C.5040608@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <4257FE3B.6592.1E1A638@localhost>

On 9 Apr 2005 at 12:43, MartyConnelly wrote:

> Here is a site with about 500 data models, with some you can get
> access mdb structures emailed. You may have to mix and match from the
> examples
> 
> Barry Williams  'Kick-Start' Data Models
> http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/index.htm

Thanks Marty!! I was looking for this site to recommend but couldn't 
find it.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Welcome to Hell. Here's your copy of Windows.




From artful at rogers.com  Sat Apr  9 15:33:34 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:33:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
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References: <3spdi8$683l4m@mxip14a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <42583C1E.7080608@rogers.com>

I may be missing something, but so far I don't see the issue here. 
tblCourses, I assume, contains the range of courses available. 
tblEmployee contains the employees. tblEmployeeTraining contains a list 
of atttendees to various courses. Excellent design.

I changed the table names slightly to fit into my example database, but 
you should be able to transpose them quickly. For the employees who have 
atteneded any given course:

SELECT     LastName
FROM         dbo.Employees
WHERE     (EmployeeID NOT IN
                          (SELECT     EmployeeID
                            FROM          CoursesAttended
                            WHERE      CoursesTaughtID = 1))

This assumes, of course, that you know the CoursesTaughtID. In the above 
I tested it with CoursesTaughtID = 1. Substitute the courseID of your 
choice.

Arthur


Charles Hise wrote:

>Sorry, for the confusing statement, I have the following tables:
>Tbl 1			Tbl 2				Tbl 3
>tblEmployee	tblEmployeeTraining	tblCoursesTaught
>empId		empId				date
>Name,Etc.	id				coursetitle
>Status	tblCoursesTaught_ID	id
>
>Status filters for Current and onLeave employees only
>Hope this helps.
>
>Charles Hise
>
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
>Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:59 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
>
>Have you tried
>
>WHERE tblCoursesTaught.ID=10 AND tblEmployee.status=2)
>
>I don't understand why you're including the 1 value with an Or operator --
>active seems to suggest that they attended?
>
>Susan H. 
>
>Susan
>10 is the courseID and status 1 active 2 on leave 3 terminated Charles Hise
>
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>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
>Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:49 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
>
>What does the id value 10 signify? Also, what do the status values of 1 and
>2 represent?
>
>Susan H. 
>
>Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who did
>not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who did
>attend;
>
> 
>
>SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID
>
>FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining ON
>tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
>tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID
>
>WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR
>(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));
>
> 
>
>If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who attended
>other in-services.
>
>I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.
>
>I would appreciate any help
>
> 
>
>Charles Hise
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Apr  9 17:38:24 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:38:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKCEALCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <200504092238.j39McEi07169@databaseadvisors.com>

Hi Bob,

Check with Orange County Access Users group.

They had a demo a few months ago that may be able to do what you want.

Contact me off list if you need more info.

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 1:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word

Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Apr  9 18:45:53 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:45:53 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] The DatabaseAdvisors web site
In-Reply-To: <0IEO006E9QVD9Y@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000001c53d5e$4460ec70$0a428552@minster33c3r25>

Great job Jim, Bryan and all other contributors. Many thanks.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jim Lawrence
> Sent: 09 April 2005 16:26
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] The DatabaseAdvisors web site
> 
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> The new Databaseadvisors web site is now up and running. The 
> site is mostly written in CSS, thanks to Byran and has a 
> fresh look and feel. There is a new set of articles and a new 
> Gazette article. Check it out and see what you think of our 
> new site. www.databaseadvisors.com 
> 
> If there are any questions comments or concern please address 
> them to me the webmaster and site janitor.
> 
> There is more to come but it will have to wait.
> 
> Thank all the people that contributed time and articles, it 
> could not have been completed without them.
> 
> Thanks for your patience.
> Jim Lawrence 
> 
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> 
> 



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Apr  9 19:38:23 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:38:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] The DatabaseAdvisors web site
In-Reply-To: <10209131.1113060656733.JavaMail.root@sniper17>
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Aaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!  I can reeeeaaaad it!

My laptop has a 1600 X 1200 screen, and I've been squinting.  

Very Nice!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 10:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] The DatabaseAdvisors web site

Hi All:

The new Databaseadvisors web site is now up and running. The site is mostly
written in CSS, thanks to Byran and has a fresh look and feel. There is a
new set of articles and a new Gazette article. Check it out and see what you
think of our new site. www.databaseadvisors.com 

If there are any questions comments or concern please address them to me the
webmaster and site janitor.

There is more to come but it will have to wait.

Thank all the people that contributed time and articles, it could not have
been completed without them.

Thanks for your patience.
Jim Lawrence 

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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sat Apr  9 21:29:36 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:29:36 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Setting a field in a report 
Message-ID: <OF8C4D3F18.6EEF86CA-ONCA256FDF.000CFA22@agric.nsw.gov.au>


I have a field in a report which states the End date of the report.

I need to change the end date to be the end date of the period.


So I have a field called EndDate which contains the date for example
30/06/2005
I need to display 30/04/and the year from the above date

So I figured I would just do a

Dim MyEndDate as Date
Dim End ReportDate as Date

MyEndDate = Year(Me!EndDate)
EndReportDate = DateSerial(MyEndDate, 04,30)

And then just use EndReportDate for the field ....

but when I try to use it it keeps telling me it can't find the field
EndDate referred to in my expression.
Where am I going wrong?



Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange





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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Apr  9 23:19:19 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:19:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Setting a field in a report 
In-Reply-To: <OF8C4D3F18.6EEF86CA-ONCA256FDF.000CFA22@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <425935E7.4709.109CCA6A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Apr 2005 at 12:29, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.go wrote:

> 
> but when I try to use it it keeps telling me it can't find the field
> EndDate referred to in my expression.
> Where am I going wrong?
> 

It's looking for a control called EndDate.

Put a hidden text box somewhere in the detail section.
Call it EndDate and make its source   [EndDate]



-- 
Stuart




From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sat Apr  9 23:34:01 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:34:01 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Setting a field in a report 
Message-ID: <OFFF811E58.878B3D99-ONCA256FDF.0018E905@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Ok I have done that and the field populates using the EndDate value . But
the code crashes with a "you have entered a property which has no value"
message. It does have a value because it is displaying it on the form

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange

On 10 Apr 2005 at 12:29, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.go wrote:

>
> but when I try to use it it keeps telling me it can't find the field
> EndDate referred to in my expression.
> Where am I going wrong?
>

It's looking for a control called EndDate.

Put a hidden text box somewhere in the detail section.
Call it EndDate and make its source   [EndDate]



--
Stuart



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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sat Apr  9 23:39:26 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:39:26 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Setting a field in a report
Message-ID: <OF2001B054.863C01E5-ONCA256FDF.00198749@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Or I could just use Me!EndDate.Value

Sorry

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 10 00:17:01 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:17:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873968@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <015a01c53d8c$86b7dec0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Seems to me you were answering MY questions when I first found this list 
about 1996 or so when it was still hosted by Memphis Technologies.

Day late and a dollar short -

Rocky

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:57 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
>
>
> This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
> Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
> awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
> remember me.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
> took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
> everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!
>
>
>
> Virginia
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 10 01:01:11 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:01:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Setting a field in a report 
In-Reply-To: <OFFF811E58.878B3D99-ONCA256FDF.0018E905@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <42594DC7.10805.10FA0ED2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Apr 2005 at 14:34, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.go wrote:

> 
> Ok I have done that and the field populates using the EndDate value . But
> the code crashes with a "you have entered a property which has no value"
> message. It does have a value because it is displaying it on the form
> 

Just looked at your original again:

> Dim MyEndDate as Date
> Dim End ReportDate as Date
> 
> MyEndDate = Year(Me!EndDate)
> EndReportDate = DateSerial(MyEndDate, 04,30)
> 

You need to Dim MyEndDate as Long, not as Date. (Year() returns a number, 
not a date)

-- 
Stuart




From lists at theopg.com  Sun Apr 10 08:40:10 2005
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:40:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Word closes before it shows the user the document
In-Reply-To: <42581203.6060406@shaw.ca>
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Try not releasing the object maybe

mark

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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Word closes before it shows the user the document


Just maybe this is it, part way through your code you suddenly

    Set objWord = Nothing 


                objWord.Activate    ' Activates Word
                objWord.Visible = True    ' Show Word to the user.
                objWord.WindowState = wdWindowStateMaximize
                Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.



connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Now trying to fix a 2nd database which is not working, written in 
>Access97. Problem is there is a Form letter function (code below) when 
>I call this function it opens word but no document appears in the 
>window. The popup to ask if it printed OK appears but the document is 
>not visible to the user and no printing occurs. If I comment out the 
>line '.Documents(strMainDocument).Close SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges

>I get a program monitor error but the document is visible.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Connie Kamrowski
>
>Analyst/Programmer
>Information Technology
>NSW Department of Primary Industries
>Orange
>
>
>Public Sub Export_Word()
>Dim rsA0001 As Recordset
>
>Dim objWord As Word.Application
>Dim strMainDocument As String
>
>Dim dbExportWord As Database
>Dim rsExportWord As Recordset
>Dim booPrintBackground As Boolean
>
>
>gfLetterPrintedOK = False 'Value will be set to true if the user 
>verifies that the letter printed
>
>' Resume to the next line following the error.
>On Error Resume Next
>
>' Attempt to reference Word which is already running.
>Set objWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")
>If Err = 429 Then
>    Set objWord = New Word.Application
>    Err = 0
>End If
>
>
>' If true, Word is not running.
>If objWord Is Nothing Then
>        ' Create a new instance of the Word application.
>        Set objWord = New Word.Application
>        ' If true, MS Word is not installed.
>        If objWord Is Nothing Then
>                MsgBox "MS Word is not installed on your computer"
>                GoTo ExitRoutine
>        End If 'objWord Is Nothing
>End If 'objWord Is Nothing
>
>'Check to Ensure the temporary RTF file has been deleted, if not,
Delete it
>    gstrWordDirectory = Dir$(strTempRTFFile, vbNormal)
>        If gstrWordDirectory <> "" Then
>                On Error GoTo Failure 'Displays 'File Access Error 
>(#71) if a form letter is already open
>                    Kill strTempRTFFile
>                On Error Resume Next
>        End If 'gstrWordDirectory <> ""
>
>    If gstrAccessWordQuery = "" Then
>                    'Print Blank Form
>                        objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate)
>                Else
>                    DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputQuery, gstrAccessWordQuery,
_
>                        acFormatRTF, strTempRTFFile, False
>                    objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate) 'Template 
>document '*.dot'
>                    strMainDocument = objWord.ActiveDocument.Name 'Sets

>the name of the 'Main Document' (template document)
>                    'so that it can be closed later
>
>                    With objWord.ActiveDocument.MailMerge
>                        .SuppressBlankLines = True
>                        .ViewMailMergeFieldCodes = False
>                        .Destination = wdSendToNewDocument
>                        .Execute
>                    End With
>
>                    With objWord 'Close Main Document
>                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Activate
>                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Close 
>SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges
>                           ' Store background printing option.
>
>
>
>                     End With
>
>                objWord.Activate    ' Activates Word
>                objWord.Visible = True    ' Show Word to the user.
>                objWord.WindowState = wdWindowStateMaximize
>                Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.
>
>            On Error GoTo Failure
>
>                If MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?", vbYesNo, 
>"Form Letters") = vbYes Then
>
>                        gfLetterPrintedOK = True
>                        Set dbExportWord = CurrentDb()
>                        Set rsExportWord = 
>dbExportWord.OpenRecordset("tblLettersSent", dbOpenDynaset, 
>dbFailOnError)
>
>                        With rsExportWord
>                            .AddNew
>                                !LTRLPBNumber = gstrRLPBNumber
>                                !LTPropertyID = glngMainPropertyID
>                                !LTFormLetterID = gstrFormLetterID
>                                !LTComment = gstrFormLetterComment
>                                !LTDatePrinted = Date
>                                !LTTimePrinted = Time
>                            .Update
>                        End With
>
>                        Select Case getgstrFormLetterID()
>                            Case "A0001"
>                                dbExportWord.Execute "A000104", 
>dbFailOnError
>
>                        End Select
>                End If 'MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?"...
>      End If 'gstrAccessWordQuery = ""
>
>
>ExitRoutine:
>    On Error Resume Next
>        rsExportWord.Close
>        Set rsExportWord = Nothing
>        dbExportWord.Close
>        Set dbExportWord = Nothing
>        rsA0001.Close
>        Set rsA0001 = Nothing
>        Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.
>    Exit Sub
>
>Failure:
>        Call ErrorHandler(strProcedureName:="Export_Word",
>lngErrorNumber:=Err.Number, _
>            strErrorDescription:=Err.Description, _
>            strErrorSource:=Err.Source)
>        Resume ExitRoutine
>
> End Sub
>
>
>
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From chise at charter.net  Sun Apr 10 11:39:23 2005
From: chise at charter.net (Charles Hise)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:39:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Solved problem, Query,
	Who didn't attend an in-service
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Thanks Phil, it worked. Thanks Artur, Susan for your help.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Phil Jewett
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 12:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend an in-service

This is solved with a subquery to exclude those that DID attend course
10:
 
SELECT tblEmployee.empID from tblEmployee
 
WHERE (tblEmployee.status = 1 or tblEmployee.status = 2)
 
AND tblEmployeeID NOT IN
 
(SELECT tblEmployee.empID
FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining
ON tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID
WHERE tblCoursesTaught.ID = 10) ;
 
Almost always when you are working on a query that includes the dreaded
words 'and did not...' then you need a subquery to solve it.
 
Phil Jewett
Phil Jewett Consulting
pjewett at bayplace.com
(619 318-4899
 
Original message:
 
Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who
did not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who
did attend;

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining
ON tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR

(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who
attended other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Sun Apr 10 18:43:44 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:43:44 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Built in Unzip program
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F1028B0B3@DISABILITYINS01>
References: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F1028B0B3@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050411113906.033ded30@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

John (and others),

I have looked at this site and notice the code is in VB (Not VBA).  Can it 
be converted to VBA?  What is involved?

What I am after is the ability to unzip a winzip file from within my 
distributed runtime program.  In the past I have used pkunzip but users of 
Windows XP Home edition are having problems with DOS programs not working 
unless some files are restored and most of them are having problems finding 
the on switch let alone finding and moving files (which may or may not be 
in certain locations).

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348

At 24/04/2002, you wrote:
>Here are the links to the freeware (very nice!) zip/unzip source code for
>roll your own zip/unzip.  I incorporated it in my framework in about an
>hour.
>
>http://www.vbaccelerator.com/codelib/zip/zip.htm
>http://www.vbaccelerator.com/codelib/zip/unzip.htm
>
>John W. Colby
>DIS Database Guy
>Colby Consulting
>www.colbyconsulting.com



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Apr 10 19:43:59 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:43:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Set Reference or active x controls in a computer
Message-ID: <005701c53e2f$8d4bb060$6501a8c0@laptop1>

Trying to be a better developer how would I make sure I library I use on my
development machine (all Access installed) :the stuff I use in development
works o
 
How do I make sure it works on their machine without owning or affording an
install package?


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 10 20:00:33 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:00:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Set Reference or active x controls in a computer
In-Reply-To: <005701c53e2f$8d4bb060$6501a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <425A58D1.21787.150D1FB9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Apr 2005 at 17:43, Joe Hecht wrote:

> Trying to be a better developer how would I make sure I library I use on my
> development machine (all Access installed) :the stuff I use in development
> works o
> 
> How do I make sure it works on their machine without owning or affording an
> install package?

Download a free installation package?

There are a number listed at 
http://www.thefreecountry.com/programming/setup.shtml

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Apr 10 20:06:13 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:06:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Set Reference or active x controls in a computer
In-Reply-To: <425A58D1.21787.150D1FB9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200504110106.j3B161i29605@databaseadvisors.com>

Now that may work. Will have to look at that.

Any Idea to where to learn what all the library references are and when you
may want to use or the other?

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
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Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Set Reference or active x controls in a computer

On 10 Apr 2005 at 17:43, Joe Hecht wrote:

> Trying to be a better developer how would I make sure I library I use on
my
> development machine (all Access installed) :the stuff I use in development
> works o
> 
> How do I make sure it works on their machine without owning or affording
an
> install package?

Download a free installation package?

There are a number listed at 
http://www.thefreecountry.com/programming/setup.shtml

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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sun Apr 10 20:07:14 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:07:14 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Trouble with SQL statemnent on two different machines
Message-ID: <OF72E9ECB7.417ED268-ONCA256FE0.0005C7C9@agric.nsw.gov.au>


I now know exactly where this is failing.. on the
Max(Right[AuthorityNumber],5) As Number

Is tehre an Issue with these functions when using an XP machine? I have
copied the libraries and made sure all teh references match but it still
fails when processing the SQL Statement.

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange



Hi All,

I am havinbg an issue with a function and could use some fresh eyes and
knowledge. Both machines are running Access97 SR2. On my machine the
function works fine, on the users machine it falls over. We are accessing
the database from a central location.

Function as follows:

<code>
Private Function getstrNextAuthorityNumber() As String
'Automatically select the next availaible Authority Number for this type of
Authority
On Error GoTo Failure

Dim dbNextAuthority As Database
Dim rsNextAuthority As Recordset

Dim intNextAuthorityNumber As Integer

Dim strSelect As String


strSelect = "SELECT tblCAuthorityType.AuthorityPrefix,
Max(Right([AuthorityNumber],5)) AS [Number] " & _
                        "FROM tblCAuthorityType RIGHT JOIN tblDAuthority ON
tblCAuthorityType.AuthorityTypeID = tblDAuthority.AuthorityType " & _
                        "GROUP BY tblCAuthorityType.AuthorityPrefix " & _
                        "HAVING
(((tblCAuthorityType.AuthorityPrefix)=getgstrAuthorityPrefix()));"

On Error Resume Next

    Set dbNextAuthority = CurrentDb()
    Set rsNextAuthority = dbNextAuthority.OpenRecordset(strSelect,
dbOpenSnapshot, dbFailOnError)

        If rsNextAuthority.RecordCount < 1 Then 'No records - this will not
actually be used.
            intNextAuthorityNumber = 1 'Initial Authority Number for each
type
        Else
            intNextAuthorityNumber = rsNextAuthority!Number + 1 'Increment
last Authority Number by 1
        End If 'rsNextAuthorityNumber.RecordCount = 0

        getstrNextAuthorityNumber = getgstrAuthorityPrefix() & Right("0000"
& Trim(Str(intNextAuthorityNumber)), 5)

ExitRoutine:
        On Error Resume Next
            rsNextAuthority.Close
            Set rsNextAuthority = Nothing
            dbNextAuthority.Close
            Set dbNextAuthority = Nothing
        Exit Function

Failure:
        Call ErrorHandler(lngErrorNumber:=Err.Number,
strErrorDescription:=Err.Description, strErrorSource:=Err.Source)
        Resume ExitRoutine

End Function
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 10 20:18:02 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:18:02 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Trouble with SQL statemnent on two different
	machines
In-Reply-To: <OF72E9ECB7.417ED268-ONCA256FE0.0005C7C9@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <425A5CEA.19792.151D223B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 11 Apr 2005 at 11:07, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.go wrote:

> 
> I now know exactly where this is failing.. on the
> Max(Right[AuthorityNumber],5) As Number
> 
> Is tehre an Issue with these functions when using an XP machine? I have
> copied the libraries and made sure all teh references match but it still
> fails when processing the SQL Statement.
> 

Whenever you get a problem with String functions (in this case, I'd suspect 
the "Right") not working, the first place to look is for a missing 
Reference.  I'd suspect that you have a reference to a library which is on 
your machine but not on the user's machine.

Open the code on the user's machine, go to Tools-References and see if 
there are any problems.


-- 
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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sun Apr 10 23:28:47 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:28:47 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Trouble with SQL statement on two different machines
	- SOLVED
Message-ID: <OF9D591BD0.5BAE7238-ONCA256FE0.0013FCE0@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Thanks Stuart

I had checked the Libraries and references but went back again figuring I
had missed something

I noticed that the main machine referenced Access Library 8.0 as being a
file called MS097.DLL
Whereas the users machine had this reference to a file called MS097rt.DLL

Changed it to be the same file and it all works fine.

Thanks again for the assistance I think I am getting to the can't see the
forest for the trees here at the moment.

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 11 01:32:36 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:32:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Built in Unzip program
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050411113906.033ded30@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <0IER00H07RI9H4@l-daemon>

Hi David:

Virtually any VB code can be modified or installed or referenced to work
with Access.... I have never found one that could not.

HTH
Jim

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Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 4:44 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Built in Unzip program

John (and others),

I have looked at this site and notice the code is in VB (Not VBA).  Can it 
be converted to VBA?  What is involved?

What I am after is the ability to unzip a winzip file from within my 
distributed runtime program.  In the past I have used pkunzip but users of 
Windows XP Home edition are having problems with DOS programs not working 
unless some files are restored and most of them are having problems finding 
the on switch let alone finding and moving files (which may or may not be 
in certain locations).

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348

At 24/04/2002, you wrote:
>Here are the links to the freeware (very nice!) zip/unzip source code for
>roll your own zip/unzip.  I incorporated it in my framework in about an
>hour.
>
>http://www.vbaccelerator.com/codelib/zip/zip.htm
>http://www.vbaccelerator.com/codelib/zip/unzip.htm
>
>John W. Colby
>DIS Database Guy
>Colby Consulting
>www.colbyconsulting.com

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Apr 11 08:30:03 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:30:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374EF@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

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From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:36:06 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT Excel - Count Stores By Day Or Week
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To all,

I have an Excel sheet with store no, and date (DD/MM/YYYY), what I need to be able to do is on another sheet in the same workbook is have the user enter startdate (A1) and finishdate (A2).  Once they have done this I need to count all the stores in that particular date range, I used to have some similar formula to do something like this but can't seem to find it anywhere at the moment....

If anyone can help I would be very grateful....

Thanks in advance for all your help....

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Mon Apr 11 11:51:32 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:51:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
Message-ID: <s25a72f6.053@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs,
and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for the
Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 reports
to the program. The reports for these programs are identical to one
another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name, address,
age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and another "prog
B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries and it occurred
to me, because the form is starting to get crowded w/buttons, that there
may be a way to put these together somehow. I have created an option
group, which lists the programs, but now I would like to click on a
button that runs a report based on the option group choice. I know I can
do this, by calling different reports, but is there a way to actually
create one single report that uses the different queries based on this
same option choice?

Thanks,

John W Clark


From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Mon Apr 11 12:38:49 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:38:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
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Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various versions of
the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report to a
copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy "FinalOutPut_qry",
or whatever.

Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code will
check which version of the query is needed and then use...

DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"

i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the 'disposable'
query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is bound.
The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB files.

Lambert

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> Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs,
> and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for the
> Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 reports
> to the program. The reports for these programs are identical to one
> another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name, address,
> age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and another "prog
> B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries and it occurred
> to me, because the form is starting to get crowded w/buttons, that there
> may be a way to put these together somehow. I have created an option
> group, which lists the programs, but now I would like to click on a
> button that runs a report based on the option group choice. I know I can
> do this, by calling different reports, but is there a way to actually
> create one single report that uses the different queries based on this
> same option choice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W Clark
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Apr 11 12:51:41 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:51:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374EF@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAEBNCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.

thanks anyway.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr 11 12:55:34 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:55:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B69D60@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9CF@ADGSERVER>

Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries (either
SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for the report in
the OnOpen event of the report.

In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values form the
calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the query
name or actually set the recordsource.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources



Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various versions of
the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report to a
copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy "FinalOutPut_qry",
or whatever.

Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code will
check which version of the query is needed and then use...

DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"

i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the 'disposable'
query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is bound.
The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB files.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs, 
> and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for the 
> Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 
> reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical 
> to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name, 
> address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and 
> another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries 
> and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded 
> w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
> have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
> would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the option 
> group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different reports, but 
> is there a way to actually create one single report that uses the 
> different queries based on this same option choice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W Clark
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr 11 13:06:35 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:06:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B69D6D@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9D1@ADGSERVER>

That should have read:

In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values from the
calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the query
name and set the recordsource for the report after the select statement or
actually set the recordsource in each case statement.

Sorry about that.

Bobby


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources


Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries (either
SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for the report in
the OnOpen event of the report.

In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values form the
calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the query
name or actually set the recordsource.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources



Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various versions of
the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report to a
copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy "FinalOutPut_qry",
or whatever.

Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code will
check which version of the query is needed and then use...

DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"

i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the 'disposable'
query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is bound.
The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB files.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs,
> and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for the 
> Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 
> reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical 
> to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name, 
> address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and 
> another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries 
> and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded 
> w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
> have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
> would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the option 
> group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different reports, but 
> is there a way to actually create one single report that uses the 
> different queries based on this same option choice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W Clark
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From jim.moss at jlmoss.net  Mon Apr 11 13:08:15 2005
From: jim.moss at jlmoss.net (Jim Moss)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:08:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAEBNCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374EF@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
	<AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAEBNCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <40242.143.116.116.199.1113242895.squirrel@143.116.116.199>

Monarch does work with html though....

Jim


> sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.
>
> thanks anyway.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
> Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
> from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into
> Access.
> Jim Hale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
> Hello to the list,
>
> I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
> It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.
>
> It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
> same phrase ahead of the data of interest.
>
> So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
> that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
> interesting.
>
>
> thots?
>
> best,
>
> bob
>
> accesspro at nospamcox.net
>
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Apr 11 13:10:57 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:10:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374F2@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I have never tried Monarch with Word so I did not know this. It would still
be possible from code to save the Word doc as text and read this into
Monarch.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.

thanks anyway.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From pharold at proftesting.com  Mon Apr 11 13:45:48 2005
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:45:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B59D4@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <002901c53ec6$adac63d0$192da8c0@D58BT131Perry>

Wow, I thought that at @240 I had about 300 too many!

Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
know about when you started using the list.  Some of us have demonstrated
that we can barely remember code that we wrote yesterday and appreciate the
others in the list that are a handy resource to be reminded by.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?



The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the E-mails,
probably a year or so.

I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails? I now have
111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
:-)

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have

> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
> 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Mon Apr 11 14:01:35 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:01:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
Message-ID: <s25a91c4.071@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

What is the command to set the record source? 

As a test I've started typing: If
[Forms]![frmrpt_quarterly]![FrameChoices] = 8 Then

I'm not sure how to set the recordset...I had thought that I had to use
the form name as a control, but it isn't taking it.

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 4/11/2005 1:55:34 PM >>>
Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries
(either
SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for the
report in
the OnOpen event of the report.

In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values
form the
calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the
query
name or actually set the recordsource.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources



Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various
versions of
the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report
to a
copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy
"FinalOutPut_qry",
or whatever.

Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code
will
check which version of the query is needed and then use...

DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"

i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the
'disposable'
query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is
bound.
The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB
files.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs,

> and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for
the 
> Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 
> reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical

> to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name,

> address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and 
> another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries

> and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded 
> w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
> have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
> would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the
option 
> group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different reports, but

> is there a way to actually create one single report that uses the 
> different queries based on this same option choice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W Clark
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From pharold at proftesting.com  Mon Apr 11 14:19:53 2005
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:19:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Trouble Shooting Help X Posted
In-Reply-To: <200504080327.j383RCi08625@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c53ecb$707535a0$192da8c0@D58BT131Perry>

Maybe number of copies is set to 2 on the specific printer?

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: [AccessD] Trouble Shooting Help X Posted


 

The setup:

 

I have a split MDB where the network person for their reason has put both
ends on the server.

 

The files are Master.mdb and Data.MDB. There is a third file called user.mdb
User.MDB is a front end that also hits data.mdb. User is created by making
updates to master.MDB and then removing 2 forms that 2cnd person is not to
be able to edit. The users are in separate offices of the company about 40
miles apart.

 

The office manager in Office one uses Master.mdb by VPN. The order person in
office 2 reaches the server through remote desktop connection. They both run
Access locally on their machines. Network is W2k

 

*	Last Friday I installed the latest upgrades at office one, and
received client acceptance. I then called the remote office to confirm
functionality there. She claimed that she was getting a second report on
every Purchase Order she did. This second report is only supposed to print
when certain materials are ordered. The Purchase Orders and reports work ok
in the main office. Can anyone think of reason why this would be happening?

 

Thanks

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr 11 14:21:39 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B69D9E@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9D3@ADGSERVER>


I use something like (warning - air code):

Dim strSQL as string

	strSQL="SELECT * FROM SomeTable;"

	me.recordsource=strsql


Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:02 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources


What is the command to set the record source? 

As a test I've started typing: If [Forms]![frmrpt_quarterly]![FrameChoices]
= 8 Then

I'm not sure how to set the recordset...I had thought that I had to use the
form name as a control, but it isn't taking it.

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 4/11/2005 1:55:34 PM >>>
Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries (either
SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for the report in
the OnOpen event of the report.

In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values form the
calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the query
name or actually set the recordsource.

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources



Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various versions of
the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report to a
copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy "FinalOutPut_qry",
or whatever.

Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code will
check which version of the query is needed and then use...

DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"

i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the 'disposable'
query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is bound.
The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB files.

Lambert

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> Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs,

> and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for
the 
> Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9
> reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical

> to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name,

> address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and
> another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries

> and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded
> w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
> have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
> would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the
option 
> group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different reports, but

> is there a way to actually create one single report that uses the
> different queries based on this same option choice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W Clark
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 11 14:38:51 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:38:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <002901c53ec6$adac63d0$192da8c0@D58BT131Perry>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNOEMGDGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Perry,

 <<Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
know about when you started using the list. >>

 Well I guess I fall into the can't remember list<g>.  I was here for the
change hosting, and here for Gunderloy leaving, so it's been a while<g>.

  Probably longer then I would care to think about, which is why I probably
don't remember<g>.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Perry Harold
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Wow, I thought that at @240 I had about 300 too many!

Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
know about when you started using the list.  Some of us have demonstrated
that we can barely remember code that we wrote yesterday and appreciate the
others in the list that are a handy resource to be reminded by.

Perry Harold

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?



The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the E-mails,
probably a year or so.

I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails? I now have
111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
:-)

Erwin


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Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have

> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
> 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Apr 11 14:42:30 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:42:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374F4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Here is some quick and dirty code that opens a Word doc from inside Access,
searches for the string "special code:" and sets a string variable equal to
the sentence that follows the code string. If your documents all have the
same string you can find that string and select words, sentences or
paragraphs that come after it. HTH
Jim Hale

Function LiftText()

Dim wd As Word.Application, strPhrase As String, strFindphrase As String
strFindphrase = "special code:"
Set wd = New Word.Application
wd.Documents.Open "C:\Test.doc"
wd.Visible = True
wd.Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
    With wd.Selection.Find
        .Text = strFindphrase
        .Replacement.Text = ""
        .Forward = True
        .Wrap = wdFindContinue
        .Format = False
        .MatchCase = False
        .MatchWholeWord = False
        .MatchWildcards = False
        .MatchSoundsLike = False
        .MatchAllWordForms = False
    End With
    wd.Selection.Find.Execute
    wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
    strPhrase = wd.Selection
    MsgBox "Look what I found: " & strPhrase
    wd.ActiveDocument.Close
    wd.Quit
    Set wd = Nothing
End Function

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.

thanks anyway.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Apr 11 15:59:10 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:59:10 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
Message-ID: <007001c53ed9$77431ec0$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

i have a table with a field [Para], that has values like:

2(2ma)
3(0v)
2(2v+2a)

what i would like is the total of numbers of field [Para],
as result in a new field [Para_total].

the result would be

4                  2(2ma)    = 2+2
3                  3(0v)        = 3+0
6                  2(2v+2a) = 2+2+2

Thanks 

Pedro Janssen


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Apr 11 16:16:06 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:16:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <19243122.1113253587763.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAc4MsxJM57kK6BXv5TJtXyQEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Hi Pedro,

Could you give more information?  Also, could you elaborate on how your
equations are working?

Dan Waters


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:59 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers

Hello Group,

i have a table with a field [Para], that has values like:

2(2ma)
3(0v)
2(2v+2a)

what i would like is the total of numbers of field [Para],
as result in a new field [Para_total].

the result would be

4                  2(2ma)    = 2+2
3                  3(0v)        = 3+0
6                  2(2v+2a) = 2+2+2

Thanks 

Pedro Janssen
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 11 16:35:56 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:35:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAc4MsxJM57kK6BXv5TJtXyQEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <20050411213551.FJUB4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

It looks to me like he needs to extract all the numbers in a given entry and
add them. Not an easy feat. 

Susan H. 

Hi Pedro,

Could you give more information?  Also, could you elaborate on how your
equations are working?

Dan Waters



From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Apr 11 17:14:45 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:14:45 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
References: <20050411213551.FJUB4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <00b401c53ee3$df364020$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello,

these values are headshield patterns of snakes.
Let me explain:
the value 2(2ma) means: 2 shields front + 2 shields middleback (ma =
middenachter in Dutch which means middleback in English).

I need the total number of shields. In my example 2+2 = 4

I'll hope somebody can help me on this.
The example above is of one kind of scale, i need to extract seven kind of
scales for each animal, an i have data from about 4500 snakes.

Thanks

Pedro

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From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:35 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] add numbers


> It looks to me like he needs to extract all the numbers in a given entry
and
> add them. Not an easy feat.
>
> Susan H.
>
> Hi Pedro,
>
> Could you give more information?  Also, could you elaborate on how your
> equations are working?
>
> Dan Waters
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:59 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers

Hello Group,

i have a table with a field [Para], that has values like:

2(2ma)
3(0v)
2(2v+2a)

what i would like is the total of numbers of field [Para],
as result in a new field [Para_total].

the result would be

4                  2(2ma)    = 2+2
3                  3(0v)        = 3+0
6                  2(2v+2a) = 2+2+2

Thanks

Pedro Janssen





From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Apr 11 17:22:47 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:22:47 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <007001c53ed9$77431ec0$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <425B8557.32082.19A30906@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 11 Apr 2005 at 22:59, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> 
>what i would like is the total of numbers of field [Para],
>as result in a new field [Para_total].
> 4                  2(2ma)    = 2+2
> 3                  3(0v)        = 3+0
> 6                  2(2v+2a) = 2+2+2
> 

Create a function:
Function Addnumbers (InputString as String) as Long
   Dim lngStore as Long
   Dim lngLoopcount as Long
   Dim strTemp as String
   For LngLoopcount = 1 to len(InputString)
         lngStore = Val(Mid$(InputString,lngLoopcount,1))
   Next
   Addnumbers = lngStore
End Function

In your Query  put a calculated field:
Para_Total:AddNumbers([Para])-- 
Stuart




From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Apr 11 18:23:10 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:23:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374F4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKGECCCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

thanks Jim.
a bit of manipulation of how much to grab and away I go!!!

bob



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Here is some quick and dirty code that opens a Word doc from inside Access,
searches for the string "special code:" and sets a string variable equal to
the sentence that follows the code string. If your documents all have the
same string you can find that string and select words, sentences or
paragraphs that come after it. HTH
Jim Hale

Function LiftText()

Dim wd As Word.Application, strPhrase As String, strFindphrase As String
strFindphrase = "special code:"
Set wd = New Word.Application
wd.Documents.Open "C:\Test.doc"
wd.Visible = True
wd.Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
    With wd.Selection.Find
        .Text = strFindphrase
        .Replacement.Text = ""
        .Forward = True
        .Wrap = wdFindContinue
        .Format = False
        .MatchCase = False
        .MatchWholeWord = False
        .MatchWildcards = False
        .MatchSoundsLike = False
        .MatchAllWordForms = False
    End With
    wd.Selection.Find.Execute
    wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
    strPhrase = wd.Selection
    MsgBox "Look what I found: " & strPhrase
    wd.ActiveDocument.Close
    wd.Quit
    Set wd = Nothing
End Function

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.

thanks anyway.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Apr 11 19:06:43 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:06:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNOEMGDGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAECDCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Ditto on Perry's observation. Keep adding memory to the machine and maybe we
can keep up.
Can't remember when the list was not around in some form.


Though, I do remember we used to have a DIALUP, yes, a BBS, here in San
Diego devoted to Access. It was operated by member of our users group. His
name is John C.

best,

bob heygood

accesspro at nospamcox.net



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:39 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Perry,

 <<Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
know about when you started using the list. >>

 Well I guess I fall into the can't remember list<g>.  I was here for the
change hosting, and here for Gunderloy leaving, so it's been a while<g>.

  Probably longer then I would care to think about, which is why I probably
don't remember<g>.

Jim.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Perry Harold
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Wow, I thought that at @240 I had about 300 too many!

Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
know about when you started using the list.  Some of us have demonstrated
that we can barely remember code that we wrote yesterday and appreciate the
others in the list that are a handy resource to be reminded by.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?



The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the E-mails,
probably a year or so.

I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails? I now have
111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
:-)

Erwin


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have

> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
> 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr 11 19:25:33 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:25:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAECDCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <00d501c53ef6$27fb6170$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

LOL, that was AGES ago.  Luckily better things came along.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Ditto on Perry's observation. Keep adding memory to the machine and maybe we
can keep up. Can't remember when the list was not around in some form.


Though, I do remember we used to have a DIALUP, yes, a BBS, here in San
Diego devoted to Access. It was operated by member of our users group. His
name is John C.

best,

bob heygood

accesspro at nospamcox.net



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:39 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Perry,

 <<Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
know about when you started using the list. >>

 Well I guess I fall into the can't remember list<g>.  I was here for the
change hosting, and here for Gunderloy leaving, so it's been a while<g>.

  Probably longer then I would care to think about, which is why I probably
don't remember<g>.

Jim.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Perry Harold
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Wow, I thought that at @240 I had about 300 too many!

Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
know about when you started using the list.  Some of us have demonstrated
that we can barely remember code that we wrote yesterday and appreciate the
others in the list that are a handy resource to be reminded by.

Perry Harold

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Helps
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?



The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the E-mails,
probably a year or so.

I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails? I now have
111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
:-)

Erwin


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Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of 
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have

> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 
> 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From handyman at actcom.co.il  Mon Apr 11 21:08:58 2005
From: handyman at actcom.co.il (handyman at actcom.co.il)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 04:08:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050412040535.022503a0@pop5.actcom.net.il>

I am looking to learn Frontpage and Dreamweaver.  Does anyone one have good 
book recommendations (for an advanced programmer), for a book that while 
covering the basics, also has good advanced features?

Thanks in advance

Gershon Markowitz
mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 11 21:47:29 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:47:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050412040535.022503a0@pop5.actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <0IET00F0IBR4BH@l-daemon>

Hi Gershon:

Susan Harkins co-wrote a book called 'Dreamweaver MX Databases' that might
help you. You can check it out or order it at, for example:
http://www.sybex.com/sybexbooks.nsf/booklist/4148

HTH
Jim

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To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I am looking to learn Frontpage and Dreamweaver.  Does anyone one have good 
book recommendations (for an advanced programmer), for a book that while 
covering the basics, also has good advanced features?

Thanks in advance

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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Apr 11 22:33:11 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:33:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050412040535.022503a0@pop5.actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <200504120333.j3C3XEcU223338@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Gershon,
I abandoned FrontPage back in 98. FrontPage 2003 looks to be a good product
with the same quality, standards based features as GoLive (which I have been
using since) has. I'm giving it another chance. I purchased "Using FrontPage
2003 by Paul Colligan (QUE). He is a FrontPage guru. He covers pretty much
everything including FrontPage VBA. Can't tell you much more than that yet
as I'm not finished with it but it looks promising.

John B.


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handyman at actcom.co.il
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 9:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I am looking to learn Frontpage and Dreamweaver.  Does anyone one have good
book recommendations (for an advanced programmer), for a book that while
covering the basics, also has good advanced features?

Thanks in advance

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 12 01:11:58 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:11:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
Message-ID: <03e501c53f26$88e085d0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

I have a one page report and at the bottom it prints Page 1 of 2.  I'm using the standard ="Page " & [Page] & " of " & [Pages] to print the page numbers which was actually generated by the Access report wiz.

This has never failed before.

Has anyone seen anything like this?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 12 06:43:05 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:43:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B69E1B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9D8@ADGSERVER>

But if any of the numbers is greater than 9, this will not work properly.
It does look like it works ok for numbers less than 10.

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] add numbers


On 11 Apr 2005 at 22:59, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> 
>what i would like is the total of numbers of field [Para],
>as result in a new field [Para_total].
> 4                  2(2ma)    = 2+2
> 3                  3(0v)        = 3+0
> 6                  2(2v+2a) = 2+2+2
> 

Create a function:
Function Addnumbers (InputString as String) as Long
   Dim lngStore as Long
   Dim lngLoopcount as Long
   Dim strTemp as String
   For LngLoopcount = 1 to len(InputString)
         lngStore = Val(Mid$(InputString,lngLoopcount,1))
   Next
   Addnumbers = lngStore
End Function

In your Query  put a calculated field:
Para_Total:AddNumbers([Para])-- 
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Tue Apr 12 06:51:41 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:51:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
Message-ID: <s25b7e2a.031@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Thanks Bobby.

I'm a dolt...I always forget about the "me" when I am in a form. I
don't get to program in Access for months sometimes, and then I get back
into it and I keep forgetting the same stuff. The thing I love about my
job is the same thing I hate about my job...variety. I'll do Access for
a bit, then I'll do some IP telephony for a while, and then we mix in
some net admin duties and some other assorted tidbits, and VOILA! you've
got confusion ;)

But, it doesn't get boring ;)

Thanks again!

John W Clark

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 4/11/2005 3:21 PM >>>

I use something like (warning - air code):

Dim strSQL as string

	strSQL="SELECT * FROM SomeTable;"

	me.recordsource=strsql


Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:02 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources


What is the command to set the record source? 

As a test I've started typing: If
[Forms]![frmrpt_quarterly]![FrameChoices]
= 8 Then

I'm not sure how to set the recordset...I had thought that I had to use
the
form name as a control, but it isn't taking it.

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 4/11/2005 1:55:34 PM >>>
Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries
(either
SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for the
report in
the OnOpen event of the report.

In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values
form the
calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the
query
name or actually set the recordsource.

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources



Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various
versions of
the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report
to a
copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy
"FinalOutPut_qry",
or whatever.

Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code
will
check which version of the query is needed and then use...

DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"

i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the
'disposable'
query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is
bound.
The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB
files.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
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> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various
programs,

> and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for
the 
> Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9
> reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical

> to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have
name,

> address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and
> another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar
queries

> and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded
> w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
> have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
> would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the
option 
> group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different reports,
but

> is there a way to actually create one single report that uses the
> different queries based on this same option choice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W Clark
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 12 07:03:13 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:03:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9D8@ADGSERVER>
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B69E1B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <425C45A1.30085.1C9224C6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Apr 2005 at 7:43, Bobby Heid wrote:

> But if any of the numbers is greater than 9, this will not work properly.
> It does look like it works ok for numbers less than 10.
> 
It doesn't work. I should have put
    lngStore = lngStore + Val(Mid$(InputString,lngLoopcount,1))
instead of 
 lngStore = Val(Mid$(InputString,lngLoopcount,1))

That said, this one does work with multi digit numbers: 

Function Addnumbers(InputString As String) As Long
   Dim lngStore As Long
   Dim lngLoopcount As Long
   lngLoopcount = 0
   Do
         lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
         lngStore = lngStore + Val(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount))
         'move past current number
         While IsNumeric(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount, 1))
             lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
         Wend
   Loop Until lngLoopcount >= Len(InputString)
   Addnumbers = lngStore
End Function

-- 
Stuart




From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 12 07:17:42 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:17:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B69EC3@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9D9@ADGSERVER>

John,

That's par for the course in our line of work.  If you don't use it, you
lose it.

Glad I could help.

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:52 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources


Thanks Bobby.

I'm a dolt...I always forget about the "me" when I am in a form. I don't get
to program in Access for months sometimes, and then I get back into it and I
keep forgetting the same stuff. The thing I love about my job is the same
thing I hate about my job...variety. I'll do Access for a bit, then I'll do
some IP telephony for a while, and then we mix in some net admin duties and
some other assorted tidbits, and VOILA! you've got confusion ;)

But, it doesn't get boring ;)

Thanks again!

John W Clark

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 4/11/2005 3:21 PM >>>

I use something like (warning - air code):

Dim strSQL as string

	strSQL="SELECT * FROM SomeTable;"

	me.recordsource=strsql


Bobby



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 12 07:18:43 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:18:43 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <425C45A1.30085.1C9224C6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9D8@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <425C4943.16088.1CA055A6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Apr 2005 at 22:03, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> That said, this one does work with multi digit numbers: 
...
>          While IsNumeric(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount, 1))

I just tried this against Pedro's original examples and it broke on 
"2(2v+2a)". It returned 8 instead of 6.

The problem is that Val("+2a)") evaluates to 2, but IsNumeric("+") is 
false. So it adds 2 when it gets to the "+" and again when it gets to the 
"2"

This version handles "+2" and "-2" etc in the string as well:

Function Addnumbers(InputString As String) As Double
   Dim lngStore As Double
   Dim lngLoopcount As Double
   lngLoopcount = 0
   Do
     lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
         lngStore = lngStore + Val(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount))
         'move past current number
         While InStr("123456789+-", Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount, 1)) > 0
             lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
         Wend
   Loop Until lngLoopcount >= Len(InputString)
   Addnumbers = lngStore
End Function


-- 
Stuart




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 12 07:22:17 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:22:17 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <425C4943.16088.1CA055A6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <425C45A1.30085.1C9224C6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <425C4A19.15312.1CA3981F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Apr 2005 at 22:18, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> 
> This version handles "+2" and "-2" etc in the string as well:
> 

Yet another mod. I missed and then didn't test for a  "0" in the test 
string. This one should do it properly:

 Function Addnumbers(InputString As String) As Double
    Dim lngStore As Double
    Dim lngLoopcount As Double
    lngLoopcount = 0
    Do
      lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
          lngStore = lngStore + Val(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount))
          'move past current number
          While InStr("0123456789+-", Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount, 1)) > 0
              lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
          Wend
    Loop Until lngLoopcount >= Len(InputString)
    Addnumbers = lngStore
 End Function

-- 
Stuart




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Apr 12 08:31:36 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:31:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
In-Reply-To: <3298817.1113276949572.JavaMail.root@sniper15>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAALOyTQidL00KT1vqmhaSr9wEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

I finished a web site a few weeks ago using FrontPage 2003 and the book from
Paul Colligan.  This was my first experience creating a web site.  I have no
experience to compare to, but I have no complaints to think of either.  I've
been specifically told that FP 2003 is a big improvement over previous
versions.

My site has no code in it, so I can't offer any comments on that aspect.

I would recommend this book.  It may not have advanced programming concepts,
but it sure did me a lot of good.

Dan Waters
http://www.promationsystems.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

Gershon,
I abandoned FrontPage back in 98. FrontPage 2003 looks to be a good product
with the same quality, standards based features as GoLive (which I have been
using since) has. I'm giving it another chance. I purchased "Using FrontPage
2003 by Paul Colligan (QUE). He is a FrontPage guru. He covers pretty much
everything including FrontPage VBA. Can't tell you much more than that yet
as I'm not finished with it but it looks promising.

John B.


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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handyman at actcom.co.il
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 9:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I am looking to learn Frontpage and Dreamweaver.  Does anyone one have good
book recommendations (for an advanced programmer), for a book that while
covering the basics, also has good advanced features?

Thanks in advance

Gershon Markowitz
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From randall.anthony at cox.net  Tue Apr 12 08:52:59 2005
From: randall.anthony at cox.net (Randall Anthony)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:52:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f305022207245070111e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005b01c53f66$f008cd90$6402a8c0@DF2PJY11>

Dear Listers,
This will serve as a partial follow-up to this discussion.  I can
happily report that I am employed full-time as of tomorrow with a local,
large health group.  It manages hospitals and health insurance in the
region.  I will be serving in a dba capacity using Access, SQL, and some
PICK, I think.  In addition, I will be assisting other developers in VB,
ASP, and the proposed changes to the .Net framework, including
developing new apps via .Net and conversion procedures.

I think I am quite fortunate that my plan has payed off.  My last class
was three weeks ago, and I've one exam left.  I am now MCP certified in
SQL2000 programming and administration, and .Net development (web and
VB.Net).  I hope to take the WinServer2003 exam in the next few weeks
(which will give me my MCDBA).  As I have mentioned before, in my area,
as expressed to me by more than a few potential employers, my
certs/formal training definitely gave me the leg up on my peers.  As a
result, my ROI should be paid off in less than 18 months due to the
increase in salary at my new job.

I guess I will be signing off later today, and hopefully, will be
signing on with my new email address in the next day or two.  I can't
see myself going to long without the advice and peerless technical savvy
displayed here.

Thanks, Steve, and everyone!

Randall R. Anthony


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?

Randy,

>> Thanks for the encouraging words.  Right now these certs and 50
cents will get me a cup of coffee!! <bg> <<

Hey! You oughta move up to Wisconsin. At least you could get a cup of
coffee AND A REFILL with that 50 cents.

Your story certainly confirms the idea that we're heading for a
credentialized society, eh?

Steve Erbach





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 12 09:19:02 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:19:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAALOyTQidL00KT1vqmhaSr9wEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <20050412141935.JVPX1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I think Martin has a paper somewhere that compares FP to Dreamweaver, don't
you Martin? How about a link?

Susan H. 

I finished a web site a few weeks ago using FrontPage 2003 and the book from
Paul Colligan.  This was my first experience creating a web site.  I have no
experience to compare to, but I have no complaints to think of either.  I've
been specifically told that FP 2003 is a big improvement over previous
versions.

My site has no code in it, so I can't offer any comments on that aspect.

I would recommend this book.  It may not have advanced programming concepts,
but it sure did me a lot of good.




From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Apr 12 09:38:20 2005
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:38:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
References: <20050412141935.JVPX1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000801c53f6d$46a809d0$9111758f@aine>

Sorry

It was an internal MS doc.

Martin


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Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books


>I think Martin has a paper somewhere that compares FP to Dreamweaver, don't
> you Martin? How about a link?
>
> Susan H.
>
> I finished a web site a few weeks ago using FrontPage 2003 and the book 
> from
> Paul Colligan.  This was my first experience creating a web site.  I have 
> no
> experience to compare to, but I have no complaints to think of either. 
> I've
> been specifically told that FP 2003 is a big improvement over previous
> versions.
>
> My site has no code in it, so I can't offer any comments on that aspect.
>
> I would recommend this book.  It may not have advanced programming 
> concepts,
> but it sure did me a lot of good.
>
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr 12 09:55:41 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:55:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAALOyTQidL00KT1vqmhaSr9wEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <200504121455.j3CEti5K129636@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

Dan,
FP2k3 is a HUGE upgrade. Biggest Upgrade ever. For instance, you no longer
have to use FrontPage server extensions so you can now easily post your
website on any server.

Actually I chuckle quite a bit as I'm reading this book. Paul does a good
job of not coming right out and saying "in this version of FP MS, copied how
the other major web design software functions". (To me, it looks like "MS
GoLive" minus the really handy Adobe "Smart Objects". FP even has Smart
Objects, just not one that interacts with Photoshop, illustrator, etc. the
way GoLive's does.)

Did he cover FP's VBA enough so that you might consider using it for added
functionality?

All cynicism aside, FP2k3 is looking like a top of the line web design/site
management product. Since I subscribe to MSDN anyway, maybe now I will use
FP and I can save a few hundred bucks on GoLive upgrades!


John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I finished a web site a few weeks ago using FrontPage 2003 and the book from
Paul Colligan.  This was my first experience creating a web site.  I have no
experience to compare to, but I have no complaints to think of either.  I've
been specifically told that FP 2003 is a big improvement over previous
versions.

My site has no code in it, so I can't offer any comments on that aspect.

I would recommend this book.  It may not have advanced programming concepts,
but it sure did me a lot of good.

Dan Waters
http://www.promationsystems.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

Gershon,
I abandoned FrontPage back in 98. FrontPage 2003 looks to be a good product
with the same quality, standards based features as GoLive (which I have been
using since) has. I'm giving it another chance. I purchased "Using FrontPage
2003 by Paul Colligan (QUE). He is a FrontPage guru. He covers pretty much
everything including FrontPage VBA. Can't tell you much more than that yet
as I'm not finished with it but it looks promising.

John B.


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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handyman at actcom.co.il
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 9:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I am looking to learn Frontpage and Dreamweaver.  Does anyone one have good
book recommendations (for an advanced programmer), for a book that while
covering the basics, also has good advanced features?

Thanks in advance

Gershon Markowitz
mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Apr 12 10:05:19 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:05:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A03@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?
 
 
Erwin
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Tue Apr 12 10:15:37 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:15:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help...almost there WAS: One report using alternate
	sources
Message-ID: <s25bae16.020@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I am so close!

Here is a snippet from my code...there are six more cases:


Select Case [Forms]![frmrpt_quarterly]![FrameChoices]
    Case 1
        strChoice = "qryApril05-SenComp"
        lblGeneric.Caption = "Senior Companion"
        logGeneric_Label.Caption = "Sen Comp"
    Case 2
        strChoice = "qryGeneric"
        lblGeneric.Caption = "EISEP"
        logGeneric_Label.Caption = "NFSC"


If on the calling form has the first option chosen, I get an error that
there is a "syntax error in the FROM clause", yet it runs fine with case
2. Are you not allowed to have the "-" character?


From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Tue Apr 12 10:22:30 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:22:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help...almost there WAS: One report using
	alternate sources
Message-ID: <s25baf84.029@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Yup. That must be it...I took out the "-" character, from the name...I
renamed it first...and it worked. Of course I have another problem, but
this is a small one and I've already figured it out...there is one field
that is different amongst these reports and I didn't account for it
yet.

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 4/12/2005 11:15 AM >>>
I am so close!

Here is a snippet from my code...there are six more cases:


Select Case [Forms]![frmrpt_quarterly]![FrameChoices]
    Case 1
        strChoice = "qryApril05-SenComp"
        lblGeneric.Caption = "Senior Companion"
        logGeneric_Label.Caption = "Sen Comp"
    Case 2
        strChoice = "qryGeneric"
        lblGeneric.Caption = "EISEP"
        logGeneric_Label.Caption = "NFSC"


If on the calling form has the first option chosen, I get an error
that
there is a "syntax error in the FROM clause", yet it runs fine with
case
2. Are you not allowed to have the "-" character?
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr 12 10:25:41 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:25:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899F26@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Does it actually print two pages or just one?  I have seen this, but it
has been caused by several different things, so you need to fill in the
blanks for us.  Do you have any physical page break in the report? Do
you have any formatting that breaks before or after a section?

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:12 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering


Dear List:

I have a one page report and at the bottom it prints Page 1 of 2.  I'm
using the standard ="Page " & [Page] & " of " & [Pages] to print the
page numbers which was actually generated by the Access report wiz.

This has never failed before.

Has anyone seen anything like this?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 12 10:30:39 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:30:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
Message-ID: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the VBA code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago which I implemented on my old machine.

I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.

Thanks

Rocky


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Apr 12 10:27:21 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:27:21 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A04@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

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IT Helps
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?
 
 
Erwin
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 12 10:45:56 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:45:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899F26@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <015301c53f76$b7c44030$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Charlotte:

No page breaks.  Three sub-reports in the detail section.

I have the following events :

Private Sub Detail_Format
Private Sub Detail_Print
Private Sub GroupFooter0_Print
Private Sub Report_NoData
Private Sub Report_Open
Private Sub ReportFooter_Format
Private Sub ReportHeader_Format

The format events mostly stick things into text boxes.  I do have :

    Me.MoveLayout = False
    Me.NextRecord = True
    Me.PrintSection = False
    Exit Sub

in a couple of places which get triggered on certain conditions.

Any clues there?

Thanks and Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering


> Does it actually print two pages or just one?  I have seen this, but it
> has been caused by several different things, so you need to fill in the
> blanks for us.  Do you have any physical page break in the report? Do
> you have any formatting that breaks before or after a section?
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:12 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a one page report and at the bottom it prints Page 1 of 2.  I'm
> using the standard ="Page " & [Page] & " of " & [Pages] to print the
> page numbers which was actually generated by the Access report wiz.
>
> This has never failed before.
>
> Has anyone seen anything like this?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Apr 12 10:46:19 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:46:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
In-Reply-To: <23457130.1113318347211.JavaMail.root@sniper19>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAHmvuYH3US0K66qHUFyhkewEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Hi John,

Actually - I skipped the chapter on VBA in FrontPage.  My goal was to get my
site up ASAP.  But you now have me curious.  I will need to look in on what
VBA can do in a website.  And perhaps what it can do for manipulating data
in a database on the server!

Dan Waters


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

Dan,
FP2k3 is a HUGE upgrade. Biggest Upgrade ever. For instance, you no longer
have to use FrontPage server extensions so you can now easily post your
website on any server.

Actually I chuckle quite a bit as I'm reading this book. Paul does a good
job of not coming right out and saying "in this version of FP MS, copied how
the other major web design software functions". (To me, it looks like "MS
GoLive" minus the really handy Adobe "Smart Objects". FP even has Smart
Objects, just not one that interacts with Photoshop, illustrator, etc. the
way GoLive's does.)

Did he cover FP's VBA enough so that you might consider using it for added
functionality?

All cynicism aside, FP2k3 is looking like a top of the line web design/site
management product. Since I subscribe to MSDN anyway, maybe now I will use
FP and I can save a few hundred bucks on GoLive upgrades!


John B.


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I finished a web site a few weeks ago using FrontPage 2003 and the book from
Paul Colligan.  This was my first experience creating a web site.  I have no
experience to compare to, but I have no complaints to think of either.  I've
been specifically told that FP 2003 is a big improvement over previous
versions.

My site has no code in it, so I can't offer any comments on that aspect.

I would recommend this book.  It may not have advanced programming concepts,
but it sure did me a lot of good.

Dan Waters
http://www.promationsystems.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

Gershon,
I abandoned FrontPage back in 98. FrontPage 2003 looks to be a good product
with the same quality, standards based features as GoLive (which I have been
using since) has. I'm giving it another chance. I purchased "Using FrontPage
2003 by Paul Colligan (QUE). He is a FrontPage guru. He covers pretty much
everything including FrontPage VBA. Can't tell you much more than that yet
as I'm not finished with it but it looks promising.

John B.


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handyman at actcom.co.il
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 9:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I am looking to learn Frontpage and Dreamweaver.  Does anyone one have good
book recommendations (for an advanced programmer), for a book that while
covering the basics, also has good advanced features?

Thanks in advance

Gershon Markowitz
mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 12 10:46:25 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:46:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
References: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <015801c53f76$c8e4dd20$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Found something called VB Scroll Wheel Fix which seems to do the trick.

Rocky

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To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:30 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


Dear List:

Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the VBA 
code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago 
which I implemented on my old machine.

I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where to 
download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.

Thanks

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Apr 12 10:48:30 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:48:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <6162361.1113320165692.JavaMail.root@sniper23>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAACzDmZLb6H0OTzZCcd0FrVgEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Download MS Intellipoint version 4.1.2 and install.  

Dan Waters


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:31 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again

Dear List:

Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the VBA
code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago
which I implemented on my old machine.

I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where to
download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.

Thanks

Rocky
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 12 10:56:14 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:56:14 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <s25c0be1.074@cactus.dk>

Hi Erwin

A clue is here:

  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the
property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
-
IT Helps
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?



From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Apr 12 11:13:28 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:13:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2F6F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

That is indeed an alternative approach. The difference is that the report
needs to figure out which query to use (by reading parameters from a form
probably) rather than the calling code which opens the form determining
which query to use.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
> Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 1:56 PM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries
> (either
> SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for the report
> in
> the OnOpen event of the report.
> 
> In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values form
> the
> calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the query
> name or actually set the recordsource.
> 
> Bobby
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> 
> 
> Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various versions
> of
> the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report to
> a
> copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy
> "FinalOutPut_qry",
> or whatever.
> 
> Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code will
> check which version of the query is needed and then use...
> 
> DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
> "NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"
> 
> i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the
> 'disposable'
> query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is bound.
> The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB files.
> 
> Lambert
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> > Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
> > To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> > 
> > I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs, 
> > and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for the 
> > Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 
> > reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical 
> > to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name, 
> > address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and 
> > another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries 
> > and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded 
> > w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
> > have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
> > would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the option 
> > group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different reports, but 
> > is there a way to actually create one single report that uses the 
> > different queries based on this same option choice?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > John W Clark
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 12 11:33:16 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:33:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B69FA9@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9E1@ADGSERVER>

And where might this beast be found?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


Found something called VB Scroll Wheel Fix which seems to do the trick.

Rocky



From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Tue Apr 12 11:41:19 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:41:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D17@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with the records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.

I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's not it.

Any help?

Thanks,
Neal


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr 12 12:02:27 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:02:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687397E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
version of Access was it for?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder


I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with the
records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.

I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
not it.

Any help?

Thanks,
Neal
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Apr 12 12:02:00 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:02:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
References: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920504121002812b4ed@mail.gmail.com>

On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
<bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Dear List:
> 
> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the VBA code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago which I implemented on my old machine.
> 
> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.

Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?

Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html

It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution

-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Apr 12 12:02:00 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:02:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
References: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920504121002812b4ed@mail.gmail.com>

On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
<bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Dear List:
> 
> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the VBA code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago which I implemented on my old machine.
> 
> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.

Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?

Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html

It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr 12 12:03:50 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:03:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
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Message-ID: <200504121704.j3CH3rcU282460@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Dan,
If you find anything interesting please let us know (maybe on DBA-TECH
though). It will be quite awhile before I get through the entire book. After
I do that I will probably try FP out on the next web site I get. Until then
I'm holding off upgrading GoLive and will maintain all of my other sites
with it. 

John "slow and steady" B.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:46 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

Hi John,

Actually - I skipped the chapter on VBA in FrontPage.  My goal was to get my
site up ASAP.  But you now have me curious.  I will need to look in on what
VBA can do in a website.  And perhaps what it can do for manipulating data
in a database on the server!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

Dan,
FP2k3 is a HUGE upgrade. Biggest Upgrade ever. For instance, you no longer
have to use FrontPage server extensions so you can now easily post your
website on any server.

Actually I chuckle quite a bit as I'm reading this book. Paul does a good
job of not coming right out and saying "in this version of FP MS, copied how
the other major web design software functions". (To me, it looks like "MS
GoLive" minus the really handy Adobe "Smart Objects". FP even has Smart
Objects, just not one that interacts with Photoshop, illustrator, etc. the
way GoLive's does.)

Did he cover FP's VBA enough so that you might consider using it for added
functionality?

All cynicism aside, FP2k3 is looking like a top of the line web design/site
management product. Since I subscribe to MSDN anyway, maybe now I will use
FP and I can save a few hundred bucks on GoLive upgrades!


John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I finished a web site a few weeks ago using FrontPage 2003 and the book from
Paul Colligan.  This was my first experience creating a web site.  I have no
experience to compare to, but I have no complaints to think of either.  I've
been specifically told that FP 2003 is a big improvement over previous
versions.

My site has no code in it, so I can't offer any comments on that aspect.

I would recommend this book.  It may not have advanced programming concepts,
but it sure did me a lot of good.

Dan Waters
http://www.promationsystems.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

Gershon,
I abandoned FrontPage back in 98. FrontPage 2003 looks to be a good product
with the same quality, standards based features as GoLive (which I have been
using since) has. I'm giving it another chance. I purchased "Using FrontPage
2003 by Paul Colligan (QUE). He is a FrontPage guru. He covers pretty much
everything including FrontPage VBA. Can't tell you much more than that yet
as I'm not finished with it but it looks promising.

John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
handyman at actcom.co.il
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 9:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I am looking to learn Frontpage and Dreamweaver.  Does anyone one have good
book recommendations (for an advanced programmer), for a book that while
covering the basics, also has good advanced features?

Thanks in advance

Gershon Markowitz
mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Apr 13 12:05:29 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:05:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9E1@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <01e101c5404a$fec3ce90$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

http://www.joebott.com/vb6scrollwheel.htm

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> And where might this beast be found?
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:46 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
>
> Found something called VB Scroll Wheel Fix which seems to do the trick.
>
> Rocky
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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Tue Apr 12 12:11:05 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:11:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F251@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

It was either for 97 or 2K. It's been a couple/few of years since I've used it and I don't recall.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
version of Access was it for?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder


I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with the
records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.

I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
not it.

Any help?

Thanks,
Neal
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Tue Apr 12 12:24:05 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:24:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Date Range Query
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485CD8@natexch.jenkens.com>

I am trying to make a very simple query, but I am having an odd problem.

I want to make a date range selectable so I have "between [Start Date] and
[End Date]" as the criteria under a date.  Strangely this always returns
November and December of last year, regardless of the date entered.  If I
hard code the date, I get the correct records.

Background info that may be pertinent:
I am using Access XP with SQL 2000 backend just using linked tables.  The
date is coming through as text, but I have used Cdate([StartDate]) to help
make the query work.

Debbie
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 12 12:31:16 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:31:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B6A012@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9E5@ADGSERVER>

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


http://www.joebott.com/vb6scrollwheel.htm

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> And where might this beast be found?
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:46 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
>
> Found something called VB Scroll Wheel Fix which seems to do the 
> trick.
>
> Rocky
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Apr 13 12:38:37 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:38:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
References: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
	<e04a6c920504121002812b4ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01ec01c5404f$9fab12b0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Bryan:

DBA site - the go button didn't go.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>> Dear List:
>>
>> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the VBA 
>> code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago 
>> which I implemented on my old machine.
>>
>> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where 
>> to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.
>
> Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?
>
> Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html
>
> It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution
>
> -- 
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
> Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
> shouting "What a great ride!"
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr 12 12:48:20 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:48:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E75@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

I think I got one from Arthur Fuller but I think it was on my last PC (that crashed).

Is Arthur lurking about?

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


It was either for 97 or 2K. It's been a couple/few of years since I've used it and I don't recall.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
version of Access was it for?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder


I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with the
records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.

I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
not it.

Any help?

Thanks,
Neal
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 12 13:01:17 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:01:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <s25c292d.078@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Could it be Larry Diener?

Date: 19-07-1999 15:34:58
Subject: 	RE: [accessd] Tool for creating class modules from
tables or queries

I have sent copies of the ClassBuilder form to all who have requested
it
so far.  If you asked me for it and have not received it please ask
again.  There was a minor code modification which I sent directly to
those who needed it.  It corrected a problem where the first field of
the record was not accounted for in the GetData and SaveData methods.
If you received the code modification, please do not distribute the
utility without replacing existing code with the code I sent.  If you
don't feel comfortable doing this let me know and I'll send you a new
copy of the form. 

Mark Breen asked two questions which I thought those interested in the
utility might benefit from the responses.

1) I presume you are using this in conjunction with SQL Server?
Any comments to make ?  Does it work well ?

I am using the utility for Access and SQL tables and queries.  I have
also tested it on attached CSV files.  Essentially anything that
Access
allows you to link to should work.  The only limitations are that if
the
utility cannot detect a primary key (named 'PrimaryKey') then the
where
clause can not be automatically determined.  One could modify the
routine to enumerate the existing indexes on a table ant then pick one
for use.  I'll leave this as an exercise for the reader.   Also, field
types are determined if possible.  If a field type cannot be
determined
or is not in a predefined list the field and its working variables are
typed as variants in the class.  Some would say that this is an
advantage since variants handle nulls and explicitly typed variables
do
not.  One could easily modify the select case statement in the
CreateTableClass() function for more resolution. 

It works well for my purposes.  Other Property builders I've seen
build
one variable at a time and I've almost always needed to create a
record
class for all the fields in a table.  Personally, I'm thrilled with
it.
It has worked for me in every instance that I have used it and it has
saved a great deal of typing time.  

2) BTW, when you create an Access FE, do you still create linked
tables
an use these as record sources for the forms ?  

I typically use an Access FE and a SQL backend.  I still link all my
SQL
tables to the database then I create classes to handle specific cases
or
complex situations where I need to control several records from
different tables as a unit.  In one specific case where I recently
normalized a complex table based on standard hospital bill forms
(UB-92)
into three separate tables, I built several classes to accommodate the
data in each table and then built relationships between the classes
using collection classes.  To make a long story short, the
statisticians
are very happy because the tables are normalized and the changes were
transparent to the user because the form is the same.  Underneath it
all
though is a faster and more controlled record creation and retrieval
'engine' handled by the classes. It is faster because the class only
handles a single record, or a limited group of records in the case of
a
collection, and the data are stored in memory (somewhat like an array)
while being used. 

Like arrays, classes can't be used directly as recordsources (AFAIK)
so
at least three other functions are required to make practical use of
them on forms.  First you need a 'scatter' function which initializes
the class, calls the getdata method and then distributes the data to
the
unbound controls on your form.  I usually call this function in the
onload event of the form. Second, you need a 'gather' function which
collects the data from the form and writes it back to the underlying
data source. Third Unbound forms don't have a dirty property so you
need
to simulate the dirty property by comparing the data in the unbound
controls to the data in the underlying record being viewed.  

I'll stop there and suggest a few references for our review.  

Chapter 3 in the ADH discussed class based forms.
MS KB articles:  Q177972, Q160007 , Q159827, Q160012   

I don't consider my self an expert on classes (or much else for that
matter :-)) but I'd be happy to continue this discussion if there is
additional interest.  I can also provide you with a simple example of
a
form using the scatter and gather functions as well as the
IsRecordDirty
function if you'd like.

Regards,

Larry           
-- 


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/12 7:48 pm >>>
I think I got one from Arthur Fuller but I think it was on my last PC
(that crashed).

Is Arthur lurking about?

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


It was either for 97 or 2K. It's been a couple/few of years since I've
used it and I don't recall.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
version of Access was it for?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder


I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with
the
records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.

I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
not it.

Any help?

Thanks,
Neal



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Apr 12 13:02:31 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:02:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <01ec01c5404f$9fab12b0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
References: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
	<e04a6c920504121002812b4ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<01ec01c5404f$9fab12b0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920504121102299626d2@mail.gmail.com>

On Apr 13, 2005 1:38 PM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
<bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Bryan:
> 
> DBA site - the go button didn't go.

OK. IIRC, that points at Drew's archive. I'll let Jim know.

-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Tue Apr 12 13:13:14 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:13:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D18@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

That sure sounds like it. Does anyone have Larry's email address? Or does anyone have this form?

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


Hi Jim

Could it be Larry Diener?

Date: 19-07-1999 15:34:58
Subject: 	RE: [accessd] Tool for creating class modules from
tables or queries

I have sent copies of the ClassBuilder form to all who have requested
it
so far.  If you asked me for it and have not received it please ask
again.  There was a minor code modification which I sent directly to
those who needed it.  It corrected a problem where the first field of
the record was not accounted for in the GetData and SaveData methods.
If you received the code modification, please do not distribute the
utility without replacing existing code with the code I sent.  If you
don't feel comfortable doing this let me know and I'll send you a new
copy of the form. 

Mark Breen asked two questions which I thought those interested in the
utility might benefit from the responses.

1) I presume you are using this in conjunction with SQL Server?
Any comments to make ?  Does it work well ?

I am using the utility for Access and SQL tables and queries.  I have
also tested it on attached CSV files.  Essentially anything that
Access
allows you to link to should work.  The only limitations are that if
the
utility cannot detect a primary key (named 'PrimaryKey') then the
where
clause can not be automatically determined.  One could modify the
routine to enumerate the existing indexes on a table ant then pick one
for use.  I'll leave this as an exercise for the reader.   Also, field
types are determined if possible.  If a field type cannot be
determined
or is not in a predefined list the field and its working variables are
typed as variants in the class.  Some would say that this is an
advantage since variants handle nulls and explicitly typed variables
do
not.  One could easily modify the select case statement in the
CreateTableClass() function for more resolution. 

It works well for my purposes.  Other Property builders I've seen
build
one variable at a time and I've almost always needed to create a
record
class for all the fields in a table.  Personally, I'm thrilled with
it.
It has worked for me in every instance that I have used it and it has
saved a great deal of typing time.  

2) BTW, when you create an Access FE, do you still create linked
tables
an use these as record sources for the forms ?  

I typically use an Access FE and a SQL backend.  I still link all my
SQL
tables to the database then I create classes to handle specific cases
or
complex situations where I need to control several records from
different tables as a unit.  In one specific case where I recently
normalized a complex table based on standard hospital bill forms
(UB-92)
into three separate tables, I built several classes to accommodate the
data in each table and then built relationships between the classes
using collection classes.  To make a long story short, the
statisticians
are very happy because the tables are normalized and the changes were
transparent to the user because the form is the same.  Underneath it
all
though is a faster and more controlled record creation and retrieval
'engine' handled by the classes. It is faster because the class only
handles a single record, or a limited group of records in the case of
a
collection, and the data are stored in memory (somewhat like an array)
while being used. 

Like arrays, classes can't be used directly as recordsources (AFAIK)
so
at least three other functions are required to make practical use of
them on forms.  First you need a 'scatter' function which initializes
the class, calls the getdata method and then distributes the data to
the
unbound controls on your form.  I usually call this function in the
onload event of the form. Second, you need a 'gather' function which
collects the data from the form and writes it back to the underlying
data source. Third Unbound forms don't have a dirty property so you
need
to simulate the dirty property by comparing the data in the unbound
controls to the data in the underlying record being viewed.  

I'll stop there and suggest a few references for our review.  

Chapter 3 in the ADH discussed class based forms.
MS KB articles:  Q177972, Q160007 , Q159827, Q160012   

I don't consider my self an expert on classes (or much else for that
matter :-)) but I'd be happy to continue this discussion if there is
additional interest.  I can also provide you with a simple example of
a
form using the scatter and gather functions as well as the
IsRecordDirty
function if you'd like.

Regards,

Larry           
-- 


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/12 7:48 pm >>>
I think I got one from Arthur Fuller but I think it was on my last PC
(that crashed).

Is Arthur lurking about?

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


It was either for 97 or 2K. It's been a couple/few of years since I've
used it and I don't recall.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
version of Access was it for?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder


I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with
the
records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.

I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
not it.

Any help?

Thanks,
Neal

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 12 13:20:03 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:20:03 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <s25c2d83.079@cactus.dk>

Hi Neal

This is an old one:

  Diener, Larry <diene001 at onyx.mc.duke.edu>

/gustav

>>> nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us 04/12 8:13 pm >>>
That sure sounds like it. Does anyone have Larry's email address? Or
does anyone have this form?

Neal



From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Tue Apr 12 13:25:21 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:25:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F254@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

Thanks Gustav,

But, unfortunately it bounced as undeliverable.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:20 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


Hi Neal

This is an old one:

  Diener, Larry <diene001 at onyx.mc.duke.edu>

/gustav

>>> nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us 04/12 8:13 pm >>>
That sure sounds like it. Does anyone have Larry's email address? Or
does anyone have this form?

Neal

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 12 14:07:01 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:07:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B6A090@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9E7@ADGSERVER>

This sounds like a good time to write your own!  Then you can share it with
the rest of us.  :)

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


Thanks Gustav,

But, unfortunately it bounced as undeliverable.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:20 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


Hi Neal

This is an old one:

  Diener, Larry <diene001 at onyx.mc.duke.edu>

/gustav

>>> nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us 04/12 8:13 pm >>>
That sure sounds like it. Does anyone have Larry's email address? Or does
anyone have this form?

Neal



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr 12 14:33:46 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:33:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E7A@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

That description does sound familiar Gustav.  Maybe Arthur got it from Larry and forwarded to me (I don't think I'm familiar with Larry).

Thanks,

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


Hi Jim

Could it be Larry Diener?

Date: 19-07-1999 15:34:58
Subject: 	RE: [accessd] Tool for creating class modules from
tables or queries

I have sent copies of the ClassBuilder form to all who have requested
it
so far.  If you asked me for it and have not received it please ask
again.  There was a minor code modification which I sent directly to
those who needed it.  It corrected a problem where the first field of
the record was not accounted for in the GetData and SaveData methods.
If you received the code modification, please do not distribute the
utility without replacing existing code with the code I sent.  If you
don't feel comfortable doing this let me know and I'll send you a new
copy of the form. 

Mark Breen asked two questions which I thought those interested in the
utility might benefit from the responses.

1) I presume you are using this in conjunction with SQL Server?
Any comments to make ?  Does it work well ?

I am using the utility for Access and SQL tables and queries.  I have
also tested it on attached CSV files.  Essentially anything that
Access
allows you to link to should work.  The only limitations are that if
the
utility cannot detect a primary key (named 'PrimaryKey') then the
where
clause can not be automatically determined.  One could modify the
routine to enumerate the existing indexes on a table ant then pick one
for use.  I'll leave this as an exercise for the reader.   Also, field
types are determined if possible.  If a field type cannot be
determined
or is not in a predefined list the field and its working variables are
typed as variants in the class.  Some would say that this is an
advantage since variants handle nulls and explicitly typed variables
do
not.  One could easily modify the select case statement in the
CreateTableClass() function for more resolution. 

It works well for my purposes.  Other Property builders I've seen
build
one variable at a time and I've almost always needed to create a
record
class for all the fields in a table.  Personally, I'm thrilled with
it.
It has worked for me in every instance that I have used it and it has
saved a great deal of typing time.  

2) BTW, when you create an Access FE, do you still create linked
tables
an use these as record sources for the forms ?  

I typically use an Access FE and a SQL backend.  I still link all my
SQL
tables to the database then I create classes to handle specific cases
or
complex situations where I need to control several records from
different tables as a unit.  In one specific case where I recently
normalized a complex table based on standard hospital bill forms
(UB-92)
into three separate tables, I built several classes to accommodate the
data in each table and then built relationships between the classes
using collection classes.  To make a long story short, the
statisticians
are very happy because the tables are normalized and the changes were
transparent to the user because the form is the same.  Underneath it
all
though is a faster and more controlled record creation and retrieval
'engine' handled by the classes. It is faster because the class only
handles a single record, or a limited group of records in the case of
a
collection, and the data are stored in memory (somewhat like an array)
while being used. 

Like arrays, classes can't be used directly as recordsources (AFAIK)
so
at least three other functions are required to make practical use of
them on forms.  First you need a 'scatter' function which initializes
the class, calls the getdata method and then distributes the data to
the
unbound controls on your form.  I usually call this function in the
onload event of the form. Second, you need a 'gather' function which
collects the data from the form and writes it back to the underlying
data source. Third Unbound forms don't have a dirty property so you
need
to simulate the dirty property by comparing the data in the unbound
controls to the data in the underlying record being viewed.  

I'll stop there and suggest a few references for our review.  

Chapter 3 in the ADH discussed class based forms.
MS KB articles:  Q177972, Q160007 , Q159827, Q160012   

I don't consider my self an expert on classes (or much else for that
matter :-)) but I'd be happy to continue this discussion if there is
additional interest.  I can also provide you with a simple example of
a
form using the scatter and gather functions as well as the
IsRecordDirty
function if you'd like.

Regards,

Larry           
-- 


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/12 7:48 pm >>>
I think I got one from Arthur Fuller but I think it was on my last PC
(that crashed).

Is Arthur lurking about?

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


It was either for 97 or 2K. It's been a couple/few of years since I've
used it and I don't recall.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
version of Access was it for?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder


I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with
the
records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.

I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
not it.

Any help?

Thanks,
Neal

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 12 14:43:08 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:43:08 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D
Message-ID: <s25c4115.080@cactus.dk>

Hi all

What is 1337 D00D supposed to mean? Except for the decimal/hexadecimal
expression.

Not much Access in this, I guess, but this group knows everything ...

/gustav


From pctech at mybellybutton.com  Tue Apr 12 15:03:59 2005
From: pctech at mybellybutton.com (Frank Tanner III)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:03:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D
In-Reply-To: <s25c4115.080@cactus.dk>
References: <s25c4115.080@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1113336239.4704.0.camel@lattitude>

On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 21:43 +0200, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> What is 1337 D00D supposed to mean? Except for the decimal/hexadecimal
> expression.
> 
> Not much Access in this, I guess, but this group knows everything ...
> 
> /gustav

It stands for "Leet Dude" It's the way script kiddies who are wanna-be
hackers refer to the good ones in their groups.

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 12 15:14:26 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:14:26 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D
Message-ID: <s25c4859.081@cactus.dk>

Thanks Frank! 
So you are still here, lurking mostly?

/gustav


>>> pctech at mybellybutton.com 04/12 10:03 pm >>>
On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 21:43 +0200, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> What is 1337 D00D supposed to mean? Except for the
decimal/hexadecimal
> expression.
> 
> Not much Access in this, I guess, but this group knows everything
...
> 
> /gustav

It stands for "Leet Dude" It's the way script kiddies who are wanna-be
hackers refer to the good ones in their groups.

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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Tue Apr 12 15:20:09 2005
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Don [ITS])
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:20:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D
Message-ID: <E2B2D43190AF7948BF79EF0079153D3CE56BBE@PDAWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Hi Gustav

Have a look here:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=1337



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D


Hi all

What is 1337 D00D supposed to mean? Except for the decimal/hexadecimal
expression.

Not much Access in this, I guess, but this group knows everything ...

/gustav
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Apr 12 15:57:14 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:57:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?
In-Reply-To: <005b01c53f66$f008cd90$6402a8c0@DF2PJY11>
Message-ID: <002501c53fa2$38f35490$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Congratulations!!!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall Anthony
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:53 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?


Dear Listers,
This will serve as a partial follow-up to this discussion.  I can happily
report that I am employed full-time as of tomorrow with a local, large
health group.  It manages hospitals and health insurance in the region.  I
will be serving in a dba capacity using Access, SQL, and some PICK, I think.
In addition, I will be assisting other developers in VB, ASP, and the
proposed changes to the .Net framework, including developing new apps via
.Net and conversion procedures.

I think I am quite fortunate that my plan has payed off.  My last class was
three weeks ago, and I've one exam left.  I am now MCP certified in SQL2000
programming and administration, and .Net development (web and VB.Net).  I
hope to take the WinServer2003 exam in the next few weeks (which will give
me my MCDBA).  As I have mentioned before, in my area, as expressed to me by
more than a few potential employers, my certs/formal training definitely
gave me the leg up on my peers.  As a result, my ROI should be paid off in
less than 18 months due to the increase in salary at my new job.

I guess I will be signing off later today, and hopefully, will be signing on
with my new email address in the next day or two.  I can't see myself going
to long without the advice and peerless technical savvy displayed here.

Thanks, Steve, and everyone!

Randall R. Anthony


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?

Randy,

>> Thanks for the encouraging words.  Right now these certs and 50
cents will get me a cup of coffee!! <bg> <<

Hey! You oughta move up to Wisconsin. At least you could get a cup of coffee
AND A REFILL with that 50 cents.

Your story certainly confirms the idea that we're heading for a
credentialized society, eh?

Steve Erbach



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From pctech at mybellybutton.com  Tue Apr 12 15:59:16 2005
From: pctech at mybellybutton.com (Frank Tanner III)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:59:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D
In-Reply-To: <s25c4859.081@cactus.dk>
References: <s25c4859.081@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1113339556.4704.2.camel@lattitude>

Yeppers.  Mostly lurking.  Not doing much Access stuff at the moment,
but I still like to keep informed.

On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 22:14 +0200, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Thanks Frank! 
> So you are still here, lurking mostly?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> pctech at mybellybutton.com 04/12 10:03 pm >>>
> On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 21:43 +0200, Gustav Brock wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > What is 1337 D00D supposed to mean? Except for the
> decimal/hexadecimal
> > expression.
> > 
> > Not much Access in this, I guess, but this group knows everything
> ...
> > 
> > /gustav
> 
> It stands for "Leet Dude" It's the way script kiddies who are wanna-be
> hackers refer to the good ones in their groups.
> 
> -- 
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> 
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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Apr 12 15:51:58 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:51:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
References: <425C45A1.30085.1C9224C6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<425C4A19.15312.1CA3981F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <006b01c53fa2$8fdcc7f0$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello Stuart,

thanks for your help. The function works perfect.But i forgot to tell that
in the field [Para], also "normal" values are present like from 1 to 9. When
using the function i get an error.on the: While InStr..... I tried to adjust
the code, with no result.

Could you help again.

Thanks

Pedro

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] add numbers


> On 12 Apr 2005 at 22:18, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>
> >
> > This version handles "+2" and "-2" etc in the string as well:
> >
>
> Yet another mod. I missed and then didn't test for a  "0" in the test
> string. This one should do it properly:
>
>  Function Addnumbers(InputString As String) As Double
>     Dim lngStore As Double
>     Dim lngLoopcount As Double
>     lngLoopcount = 0
>     Do
>       lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
>           lngStore = lngStore + Val(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount))
>           'move past current number
>           While InStr("0123456789+-", Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount, 1))
> 0
>               lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
>           Wend
>     Loop Until lngLoopcount >= Len(InputString)
>     Addnumbers = lngStore
>  End Function
>
> --
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>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 12 16:58:23 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:58:23 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <006b01c53fa2$8fdcc7f0$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <425CD11F.11283.1EB30889@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Apr 2005 at 22:51, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Hello Stuart,
> 
> thanks for your help. The function works perfect.But i forgot to tell that
> in the field [Para], also "normal" values are present like from 1 to 9. When
> using the function i get an error.on the: While InStr..... I tried to adjust
> the code, with no result.
> 

Me bad, I didn't check for the end of the string in the While Loop.
Try this one instead (watch for line wrap)

Function Addnumbers(InputString As String) As Double
   Dim lngStore As Double
   Dim lngLoopcount As Double
   lngLoopcount = 0
   Do
     lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
         lngStore = lngStore + Val(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount))
         'move past current number
         While InStr("0123456789+-", Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount, 1)) > 0  And lngLoopcount <= Len(InputString)
             lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
         Wend
   Loop Until lngLoopcount >= Len(InputString)
   Addnumbers = lngStore
End Function-- 
Stuart




From nd500_lo at charter.net  Tue Apr 12 17:28:15 2005
From: nd500_lo at charter.net (Dian)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:28:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC04F3C4@dewey.Symphony.local>
Message-ID: <3rr9ri$ubsq0o@mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net>

I really had to think about this one...I first was involved just before the
Great PK Debate started, then had an accident that took me out of the game
(but, my darling husband printed out all the messages and read them to me
while I recuperated). Then, things went very slowly for me, but I "lurked"
in the background. When I was ready to jump back into the real world...this
list had answered every question I had and I had a little business that
worked really well for me. In 2000, my husband died and something in me went
with him, so I've retired to California and live with my folks...keeping
them in line and on their feet. Right now, though, seems a good time to
say...all of you, whether you realized it or not, have all been very special
to me. No matter where my work took me, I always knew that you were here
and, if you hadn't already answered a question (most of the time the
archives were enough) you would do your level best to help me through
anything...so I never hesitated to take on a new challenge. I owe you all a
debt I can never repay. Thank you all!



From artful at rogers.com  Tue Apr 12 17:58:09 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:58:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNOEMGDGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
References: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNOEMGDGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <425C5281.2010703@rogers.com>

I have no idea when I first visited this list. I do know that it saved 
my ass more than once, and that I over the years I have made some good 
friends and trusted colleagues. I'd guess that I've been here 5 years 
but I could be wrong either way.

Jim Dettman wrote:

>Perry,
>
> <<Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
>know about when you started using the list. >>
>
> Well I guess I fall into the can't remember list<g>.  I was here for the
>change hosting, and here for Gunderloy leaving, so it's been a while<g>.
>
>  Probably longer then I would care to think about, which is why I probably
>don't remember<g>.
>
>Jim.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Perry Harold
>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:46 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
>
>
>Wow, I thought that at @240 I had about 300 too many!
>
>Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
>know about when you started using the list.  Some of us have demonstrated
>that we can barely remember code that we wrote yesterday and appreciate the
>others in the list that are a handy resource to be reminded by.
>
>Perry Harold
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
>Helps
>Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:51 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
>
>
>
>The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
>I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the E-mails,
>probably a year or so.
>
>I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails? I now have
>111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
>:-)
>
>Erwin
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
>Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
>FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)
>
>And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
>Del Mar, CA.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
>Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
>MadeIt - Thanks)
>
>
>Mark A Matte asked:
>  
>
>>This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
>>all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
>>1999.
>>    
>>
>
>John W. Colby:
>  
>
>>I found the list in July of 1997.
>>    
>>
>
>Kathryn Bassett:
>I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 12 18:17:23 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:17:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <3rr9ri$ubsq0o@mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <20050412231727.PGRJ2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

In 2000, my husband died and something in me went with him, so I've retired
to California and live with my folks...

=========Dian, I tried to respond privately, but I couldn't find your email
in the header. I just wanted to say that I'm sorry. 

Susan H. 



From nd500_lo at charter.net  Tue Apr 12 19:05:57 2005
From: nd500_lo at charter.net (Dian)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:05:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <20050412231727.PGRJ2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <3rr3lu$pcibev@mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net>

Susan, thank you...but, you had no way of knowing...and your books (several
of them, actually) have helped me survive all the worst of it. I'm a major
fan. Thank you again...

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 

In 2000, my husband died and something in me went with him, so I've retired
to California and live with my folks...

=========Dian, I tried to respond privately, but I couldn't find your email
in the header. I just wanted to say that I'm sorry. 

Susan H. 

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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Apr 12 19:56:14 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:56:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2F6F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
References: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2F6F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <425C6E2E.9080807@rogers.com>

It's tough to pass parms into a report in any intelligent way. I suggest 
instead that you use static functions to set the values your report 
requires.

(A static function is one that remembers its value from call to call. 
Typically a static function is called in two ways -- one to set it and 
one to get itl This will become apparent below.)

Here is a template static function to use and modify to suit your needs.

<code>
Static Function CurrentX(Optional lngNew As Long) As Long
'Copy this template each time you need a new set/get function
'Then Replace "X" with the name of your object, i.e.,"Employee"
'Replace all in current proc and you're done.

    Dim lngCurrent As Long
    If lngNew <> 0 Then lngCurrent = lngNew
    CurrentX = lngCurrent
    #If conDebug = 1 Then
        Debug.Print "Current X: ", CurrentX
    #End If
End Function
</code>

You call such a function in two ways:
Set: CurrentX( 123 )     ' sets the value of CurrentX
CurrentX()                    ' gets the current value of CurrentX

Thus you set the function before running your report and then either tie 
the value of CurrentX() to a control or include it in your query, then 
set the control to said value. Doesn't matter which you do. This way you 
obviate all the hassles.

HTH,
Arthur

Heenan, Lambert wrote:

>That is indeed an alternative approach. The difference is that the report
>needs to figure out which query to use (by reading parameters from a form
>probably) rather than the calling code which opens the form determining
>which query to use.
>
>Lambert
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
>>Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 1:56 PM
>>To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Subject:	RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
>>
>>Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries
>>(either
>>SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for the report
>>in
>>the OnOpen event of the report.
>>
>>In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values form
>>the
>>calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the query
>>name or actually set the recordsource.
>>
>>Bobby
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
>>
>>
>>
>>Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various versions
>>of
>>the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report to
>>a
>>copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy
>>"FinalOutPut_qry",
>>or whatever.
>>
>>Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code will
>>check which version of the query is needed and then use...
>>
>>DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
>>"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"
>>
>>i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the
>>'disposable'
>>query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is bound.
>>The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB files.
>>
>>Lambert
>>
>>    
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
>>>Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
>>>To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>>Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
>>>
>>>I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs, 
>>>and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for the 
>>>Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 
>>>reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical 
>>>to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name, 
>>>address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and 
>>>another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries 
>>>and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded 
>>>w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
>>>have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
>>>would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the option 
>>>group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different reports, but 
>>>is there a way to actually create one single report that uses the 
>>>different queries based on this same option choice?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>John W Clark
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 12 20:13:03 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:13:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?
In-Reply-To: <005b01c53f66$f008cd90$6402a8c0@DF2PJY11>
Message-ID: <0IEV0067721NQ2@l-daemon>

Hi Randy:

That is great news! :-)

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall Anthony
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:53 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?

Dear Listers,
This will serve as a partial follow-up to this discussion.  I can
happily report that I am employed full-time as of tomorrow with a local,
large health group.  It manages hospitals and health insurance in the
region.  I will be serving in a dba capacity using Access, SQL, and some
PICK, I think.  In addition, I will be assisting other developers in VB,
ASP, and the proposed changes to the .Net framework, including
developing new apps via .Net and conversion procedures.

I think I am quite fortunate that my plan has payed off.  My last class
was three weeks ago, and I've one exam left.  I am now MCP certified in
SQL2000 programming and administration, and .Net development (web and
VB.Net).  I hope to take the WinServer2003 exam in the next few weeks
(which will give me my MCDBA).  As I have mentioned before, in my area,
as expressed to me by more than a few potential employers, my
certs/formal training definitely gave me the leg up on my peers.  As a
result, my ROI should be paid off in less than 18 months due to the
increase in salary at my new job.

I guess I will be signing off later today, and hopefully, will be
signing on with my new email address in the next day or two.  I can't
see myself going to long without the advice and peerless technical savvy
displayed here.

Thanks, Steve, and everyone!

Randall R. Anthony


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?

Randy,

>> Thanks for the encouraging words.  Right now these certs and 50
cents will get me a cup of coffee!! <bg> <<

Hey! You oughta move up to Wisconsin. At least you could get a cup of
coffee AND A REFILL with that 50 cents.

Your story certainly confirms the idea that we're heading for a
credentialized society, eh?

Steve Erbach



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 12 20:32:10 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:32:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920504121102299626d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0IEV009CW2XJ8K@l-daemon>

Hi Bryan and Rocky:

The code behind the image button, on the Archive page has some issue with
FireFox... No idea why and I have search FireFox help for any clues. In the
interim, until a permanent solution can be found, just pressing enter, after
inputting data in the search text box should have the same result.

HTH
Jim 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again

On Apr 13, 2005 1:38 PM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
<bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Bryan:
> 
> DBA site - the go button didn't go.

OK. IIRC, that points at Drew's archive. I'll let Jim know.

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From erbachs at gmail.com  Tue Apr 12 21:56:48 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:56:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?
In-Reply-To: <005b01c53f66$f008cd90$6402a8c0@DF2PJY11>
References: <39cb22f305022207245070111e@mail.gmail.com>
	<005b01c53f66$f008cd90$6402a8c0@DF2PJY11>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30504121956bdd53e4@mail.gmail.com>

Randy,

Fantastic! Chalk one up for the reality of getting the credentials
helps in the job search. Best of luck.

Steve Erbach

On 4/12/05, Randall Anthony <randall.anthony at cox.net> wrote:
> Dear Listers,
> This will serve as a partial follow-up to this discussion.  I can
> happily report that I am employed full-time as of tomorrow with a local,
> large health group.  It manages hospitals and health insurance in the
> region.  I will be serving in a dba capacity using Access, SQL, and some
> PICK, I think.  In addition, I will be assisting other developers in VB,
> ASP, and the proposed changes to the .Net framework, including
> developing new apps via .Net and conversion procedures.
> 
> I think I am quite fortunate that my plan has payed off.  My last class
> was three weeks ago, and I've one exam left.  I am now MCP certified in
> SQL2000 programming and administration, and .Net development (web and
> VB.Net).  I hope to take the WinServer2003 exam in the next few weeks
> (which will give me my MCDBA).  As I have mentioned before, in my area,
> as expressed to me by more than a few potential employers, my
> certs/formal training definitely gave me the leg up on my peers.  As a
> result, my ROI should be paid off in less than 18 months due to the
> increase in salary at my new job.
> 
> I guess I will be signing off later today, and hopefully, will be
> signing on with my new email address in the next day or two.  I can't
> see myself going to long without the advice and peerless technical savvy
> displayed here.
> 
> Thanks, Steve, and everyone!
> 
> Randall R. Anthony
> 
>


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Apr 13 23:25:58 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:25:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
References: <0IEV009CW2XJ8K@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <011901c540aa$0f08cc60$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

BTW, I downloaded Intellimouse 4.1.2 (or whatever the name of the product 
was) and installed it and that solved the problem.  FYI.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> Hi Bryan and Rocky:
>
> The code behind the image button, on the Archive page has some issue with
> FireFox... No idea why and I have search FireFox help for any clues. In 
> the
> interim, until a permanent solution can be found, just pressing enter, 
> after
> inputting data in the search text box should have the same result.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan 
> Carbonnell
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:03 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
> On Apr 13, 2005 1:38 PM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>> Bryan:
>>
>> DBA site - the go button didn't go.
>
> OK. IIRC, that points at Drew's archive. I'll let Jim know.
>
> -- 
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> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
> shouting "What a great ride!"
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 12 23:41:58 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:41:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
In-Reply-To: <3rr3lu$pcibev@mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <0IEV0090IBPYHW@l-daemon>

Hi All:

Just received this in the mail. Is this something new or has it been known
for a while?

http://www.betanews.com/article/MS_Database_Engine_Flaw_Discovered/111332623
0

(Watch for wrap.)

Jim



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 13 00:31:47 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:31:47 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
In-Reply-To: <0IEV0090IBPYHW@l-daemon>
References: <3rr3lu$pcibev@mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <425D3B63.4314.2052214E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Apr 2005 at 21:41, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi All:
> 
> Just received this in the mail. Is this something new or has it been known
> for a while?
> 
> http://www.betanews.com/article/MS_Database_Engine_Flaw_Discovered/111332623
> 0
> 

Don't know the details, but it says:

"The vulnerability is caused due to a memory handling error when e.g. 
parsing database files. This can be exploited to execute arbitrary code by 
tricking a user into opening a specially crafted ".mdb" file in Microsoft 
Access."

What's the difference between this and tricking a user into opening a 
".mdb" file which contains an autoexec macro that calls a function that can 
do any sort of dirty work you want?

You can achieve exactly the same thing without using any "flaws".






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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 13 03:01:05 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:01:05 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D
Message-ID: <s25cedf5.084@cactus.dk>

Hi Donald

Oh my, does that link have a comprehensive explanation!
Awesome. Thanks a lot!

/gustav

>>> donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com 04/12 10:20 pm >>>
Hi Gustav

Have a look here:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=1337 



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D


Hi all

What is 1337 D00D supposed to mean? Except for the decimal/hexadecimal
expression.

Not much Access in this, I guess, but this group knows everything ...

/gustav



From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Apr 13 05:34:07 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:34:07 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
Message-ID: <23081209.1113388447498.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

To all,

I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing JobNo, StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an Excel spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields together

strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf & PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole

and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to put the data in the specific cell.  

The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel view.

Thanks in advance for all your help..

Paul Hartland

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 05:52:25 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:25 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A0E@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I believe I explained myself poorly...

The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.

But thats the problem...
If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get Monday
as the first day.
If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display
Sunday as the first day.
Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday Contant).

So probably the only soluation is to check which version of
calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2
according to the access version.

Or not using the calendar control :-(

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

A clue is here:

  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
-
IT Helps
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 05:57:39 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:57:39 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A0F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


Not sure what you mean with CTRL characters?
But this may help

replace( "123crLfabc","crLf", vblf)

OF course you need to create a function to replace all CTRL
charachters....

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:34 PM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code

To all,

I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing
JobNo, StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an
Excel spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields
together

strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf &
PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole

and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to
put the data in the specific cell.  

The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in
Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel
view.

Thanks in advance for all your help..

Paul Hartland

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 13 06:08:48 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:08:48 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <s25d1a05.090@cactus.dk>

Hi Erwin

Looks like a bug to me as vbSunday is 1 in all versions of Access.
But it's a bug of the control not Access, so you should check the
version of the control (or rather the reference to the control), not of
Access.

/gustav


>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 12:52 pm >>>
I believe I explained myself poorly...

The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.

But thats the problem...
If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get
Monday
as the first day.
If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display
Sunday as the first day.
Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday
Contant).

So probably the only soluation is to check which version of
calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2
according to the access version.

Or not using the calendar control :-(

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

A clue is here:

  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the
property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
-
IT Helps
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?



From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Wed Apr 13 06:19:11 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:19:11 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A0F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAFmDUvMUNmlCpqxZPFfTCxIBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

What I mean by CTRL characters is instead of a carriage return, Excel shows
a small square box.  Sorry for any confusion.. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: 13 April 2005 11:58
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code


Not sure what you mean with CTRL characters?
But this may help

replace( "123crLfabc","crLf", vblf)

OF course you need to create a function to replace all CTRL charachters....

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:34 PM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code

To all,

I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing JobNo,
StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an Excel
spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields together

strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf &
PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole

and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to put
the data in the specific cell.  

The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in
Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel view.

Thanks in advance for all your help..

Paul Hartland

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 06:19:49 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:19:49 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A11@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Yes indeed, but the control is connected to the office version.
You can not use the A2K3 calendar control on a A2K machine, the A2K
calendar control stays.. 

I dont know how to check the calendar control version, but the access
version must be simple.

I'm looking at other controls like the Microsoft Date and Time picker...
Looks nice to.

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

Looks like a bug to me as vbSunday is 1 in all versions of Access.
But it's a bug of the control not Access, so you should check the
version of the control (or rather the reference to the control), not of
Access.

/gustav


>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 12:52 pm >>>
I believe I explained myself poorly...

The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.

But thats the problem...
If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get Monday
as the first day.
If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display
Sunday as the first day.
Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday Contant).

So probably the only soluation is to check which version of
calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2
according to the access version.

Or not using the calendar control :-(

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

A clue is here:

  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
-
IT Helps
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 06:37:54 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:37:54 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A12@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


I believe this is due to some differences between software.

In some application is vbCr (asc code 13) sufficient to start a new
line.
In some you need vbCr & vbLf (asc code 13 and 10)
And in some only vbLf (asc code 10)

In excel for a line feed within a cell you need vbLf (asc 10) 
So you need to the CTRL codes in your fielddata with the appropriate
ones for excel.

You can do this with the replace function as mailed earlier.

For example 
strFieldData = "abcd" & vbcr & "1234"
Cell(1,1) = replace(strFieldData ,vbcr, vblf)

Again, you probably need a function because you will have more than one
control character to replace.

Erwin


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hartland
(ISHARP)
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code

What I mean by CTRL characters is instead of a carriage return, Excel
shows a small square box.  Sorry for any confusion.. 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
IT Helps
Sent: 13 April 2005 11:58
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code


Not sure what you mean with CTRL characters?
But this may help

replace( "123crLfabc","crLf", vblf)

OF course you need to create a function to replace all CTRL
charachters....

 

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paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:34 PM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code

To all,

I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing
JobNo, StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an
Excel spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields
together

strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf &
PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole

and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to
put the data in the specific cell.  

The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in
Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel
view.

Thanks in advance for all your help..

Paul Hartland

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 06:41:22 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:41:22 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A13@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

One more remark.

Are you sure the square are control charaters?

You also could have an accented character (ASC > 127) that has been
replaced by something else because the font type is not correct for
displaying that character.
In this case you will choose the appropriate fonttype for that cell or
sheet.

Dooing a ASC() on that character will show you this.

 Erwin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hartland
(ISHARP)
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code

What I mean by CTRL characters is instead of a carriage return, Excel
shows a small square box.  Sorry for any confusion.. 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
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Sent: 13 April 2005 11:58
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code


Not sure what you mean with CTRL characters?
But this may help

replace( "123crLfabc","crLf", vblf)

OF course you need to create a function to replace all CTRL
charachters....

 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:34 PM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code

To all,

I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing
JobNo, StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an
Excel spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields
together

strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf &
PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole

and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to
put the data in the specific cell.  

The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in
Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel
view.

Thanks in advance for all your help..

Paul Hartland

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 13 06:43:50 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:43:50 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <s25d2239.091@cactus.dk>

Hi Erwin

That's the Major and Minor property of the reference you need to read
to get the version.

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 1:19 pm >>>
Yes indeed, but the control is connected to the office version.
You can not use the A2K3 calendar control on a A2K machine, the A2K
calendar control stays.. 

I dont know how to check the calendar control version, but the access
version must be simple.

I'm looking at other controls like the Microsoft Date and Time
picker...
Looks nice to.

Erwin


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

Looks like a bug to me as vbSunday is 1 in all versions of Access.
But it's a bug of the control not Access, so you should check the
version of the control (or rather the reference to the control), not
of
Access.

/gustav


>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 12:52 pm >>>
I believe I explained myself poorly...

The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.

But thats the problem...
If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get
Monday
as the first day.
If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display
Sunday as the first day.
Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday
Contant).

So probably the only soluation is to check which version of
calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2
according to the access version.

Or not using the calendar control :-(

Erwin
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

A clue is here:

  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the
property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
-
IT Helps
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?



From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 06:46:58 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:46:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A14@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I'm not entirely correct with this.

When having both access versions on a computer you can use the calendar
control of A2K3 in A2K....
Thats why I never noticed it when runing it on my computer in A2K when
testing.

 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
IT Helps
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Yes indeed, but the control is connected to the office version.
You can not use the A2K3 calendar control on a A2K machine, the A2K
calendar control stays.. 

I dont know how to check the calendar control version, but the access
version must be simple.

I'm looking at other controls like the Microsoft Date and Time picker...
Looks nice to.

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

Looks like a bug to me as vbSunday is 1 in all versions of Access.
But it's a bug of the control not Access, so you should check the
version of the control (or rather the reference to the control), not of
Access.

/gustav


>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 12:52 pm >>>
I believe I explained myself poorly...

The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.

But thats the problem...
If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get Monday
as the first day.
If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display
Sunday as the first day.
Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday Contant).

So probably the only soluation is to check which version of
calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2
according to the access version.

Or not using the calendar control :-(

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

A clue is here:

  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 06:49:34 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:49:34 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A15@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Ah ok, I need to read my references.

I was hoping there was a version property on the control itself.... 
But that would be to easy...



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:44 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

That's the Major and Minor property of the reference you need to read to
get the version.

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 1:19 pm >>>
Yes indeed, but the control is connected to the office version.
You can not use the A2K3 calendar control on a A2K machine, the A2K
calendar control stays.. 

I dont know how to check the calendar control version, but the access
version must be simple.

I'm looking at other controls like the Microsoft Date and Time picker...
Looks nice to.

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

Looks like a bug to me as vbSunday is 1 in all versions of Access.
But it's a bug of the control not Access, so you should check the
version of the control (or rather the reference to the control), not of
Access.

/gustav


>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 12:52 pm >>>
I believe I explained myself poorly...

The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.

But thats the problem...
If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get Monday
as the first day.
If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display
Sunday as the first day.
Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday Contant).

So probably the only soluation is to check which version of
calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2
according to the access version.

Or not using the calendar control :-(

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

A clue is here:

  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
-
IT Helps
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 13 06:56:56 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:56:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <3rr3lu$pcibev@mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <20050413115658.UGJH2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Wow...thank you. ;) 

What are you doing right now -- Access-wise. 

Susan H. 

Susan, thank you...but, you had no way of knowing...and your books (several
of them, actually) have helped me survive all the worst of it. I'm a major
fan. Thank you again...




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 13 06:56:56 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:56:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
In-Reply-To: <425C6E2E.9080807@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <20050413115705.UGLF2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I've not paid attention to this thread, but thought I'd chime in here with a
simple solution -- but it may not be adequate. OpenReport's openargs method
is a good way to pass criteria or really any value to a report. 

Susan H. 

It's tough to pass parms into a report in any intelligent way. I suggest
instead that you use static functions to set the values your report
requires.

(A static function is one that remembers its value from call to call. 
Typically a static function is called in two ways -- one to set it and one
to get itl This will become apparent below.)

Here is a template static function to use and modify to suit your needs.

<code>
Static Function CurrentX(Optional lngNew As Long) As Long 'Copy this
template each time you need a new set/get function 'Then Replace "X" with
the name of your object, i.e.,"Employee"
'Replace all in current proc and you're done.

    Dim lngCurrent As Long
    If lngNew <> 0 Then lngCurrent = lngNew
    CurrentX = lngCurrent
    #If conDebug = 1 Then
        Debug.Print "Current X: ", CurrentX
    #End If
End Function
</code>

You call such a function in two ways:
Set: CurrentX( 123 )     ' sets the value of CurrentX
CurrentX()                    ' gets the current value of CurrentX

Thus you set the function before running your report and then either tie the
value of CurrentX() to a control or include it in your query, then set the
control to said value. Doesn't matter which you do. This way you obviate all
the hassles.

HTH,
Arthur

Heenan, Lambert wrote:

>That is indeed an alternative approach. The difference is that the 
>report needs to figure out which query to use (by reading parameters 
>from a form
>probably) rather than the calling code which opens the form determining 
>which query to use.
>
>Lambert
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
>>Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 1:56 PM
>>To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Subject:	RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
>>
>>Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries 
>>(either SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for 
>>the report in the OnOpen event of the report.
>>
>>In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values 
>>form the calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable 
>>to the query name or actually set the recordsource.
>>
>>Bobby
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, 
>>Lambert
>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
>>
>>
>>
>>Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various 
>>versions of the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then 
>>bind the report to a copy of one of the queries. You could name the 
>>query copy "FinalOutPut_qry", or whatever.
>>
>>Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code 
>>will check which version of the query is needed and then use...
>>
>>DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery, 
>>"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"
>>
>>i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the 
>>'disposable'
>>query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is bound.
>>The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB files.
>>
>>Lambert
>>
>>    
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
>>>Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
>>>To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>>Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
>>>
>>>I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs, 
>>>and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for 
>>>the Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 
>>>reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical 
>>>to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name, 
>>>address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and 
>>>another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries 
>>>and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded 
>>>w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
>>>have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
>>>would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the 
>>>option group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different 
>>>reports, but is there a way to actually create one single report that 
>>>uses the different queries based on this same option choice?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>John W Clark
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 13 07:11:11 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:11:11 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <s25d288d.092@cactus.dk>

Hi Erwin

That may be the case; I would check that first.

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 1:49 pm >>>

I was hoping there was a version property on the control itself.... 
But that would be to easy...



From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 08:31:35 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:31:35 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Fixed header names in crosstab query
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A16@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

When using a crosstab query the colomnheaders get the name of a specific
data in a field.
When there is no data for a specific column the column is not displayd.
IF you know that the number of columnrecords is fixed, like days for
example 1 to 31, you can add 1...31 in the column text of the
columnheader property.
As a result there are always 1 tot 31 headers (fields) even if no data
is present.
 
 
But Now I'm in the situation that I have activity codes in the columns,
which are in a sub table.
How can I still do this trick but based on data in a table? Can I do
some kind of SQL insert into this columnname property?
 
I know theres a limitation of 255 fields in an crosstab query, but this
is not an issue..
 

 

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 14 10:19:39 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:19:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAFmDUvMUNmlCpqxZPFfTCxIBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>
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Paul:

Shot in the dark: try replacing the vbCrLf with either Chr(10) or Chr(13).

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:19 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code


> What I mean by CTRL characters is instead of a carriage return, Excel 
> shows
> a small square box.  Sorry for any confusion..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - 
> IT
> Helps
> Sent: 13 April 2005 11:58
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
>
>
> Not sure what you mean with CTRL characters?
> But this may help
>
> replace( "123crLfabc","crLf", vblf)
>
> OF course you need to create a function to replace all CTRL 
> charachters....
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> paul.hartland at fsmail.net
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:34 PM
> To: accessd
> Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
>
> To all,
>
> I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing 
> JobNo,
> StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an Excel
> spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields together
>
> strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf &
> PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole
>
> and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to put
> the data in the specific cell.
>
> The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in
> Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel view.
>
> Thanks in advance for all your help..
>
> Paul Hartland
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Apr 13 10:20:36 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:20:36 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT...Tuscon, AZ Lunch Anyone...
In-Reply-To: <aea6c495050407120552f7712@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F230F6B928C9C845CA072E4D2340@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

I had to go to Tucson on very short notice...I'll be here till Thursday 
evening...then in Phoenix until Friday evening.

I haven't had the chance to see any listers in person since Rocky's house a 
couple years ago.  If anyone would like to meet for Coffee, lunch, or "cool 
refreshing adult beverages"...let me know.  My cell is listed below.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte
336/253-5270




From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Wed Apr 13 10:31:04 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:31:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
In-Reply-To: <00f501c54105$607cf110$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAF3Pb1nYNedFtcSbGg4NdKUBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

It's Chr(10) thanks, works like a charm now....

Thanks to everyone for all the help....

Paul 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: 14 April 2005 16:20
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code

Paul:

Shot in the dark: try replacing the vbCrLf with either Chr(10) or Chr(13).

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:19 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code


> What I mean by CTRL characters is instead of a carriage return, Excel 
> shows
> a small square box.  Sorry for any confusion..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - 
> IT
> Helps
> Sent: 13 April 2005 11:58
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
>
>
> Not sure what you mean with CTRL characters?
> But this may help
>
> replace( "123crLfabc","crLf", vblf)
>
> OF course you need to create a function to replace all CTRL 
> charachters....
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> paul.hartland at fsmail.net
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:34 PM
> To: accessd
> Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
>
> To all,
>
> I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing 
> JobNo,
> StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an Excel
> spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields together
>
> strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf &
> PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole
>
> and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to put
> the data in the specific cell.
>
> The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in
> Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel view.
>
> Thanks in advance for all your help..
>
> Paul Hartland
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Apr 13 10:35:45 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:35:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374FB@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Chr(10) might work
Within Excel to break a line within a cell you hit <alt><enter>
I just recorded a macro while doing this and here is the resulting code:
ActiveCell.FormulaR1C1 = "test" & Chr(10) & " line " & Chr(10) & "break"
which produced a cell formatted as

test
line
break

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code


Paul:

Shot in the dark: try replacing the vbCrLf with either Chr(10) or Chr(13).

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:19 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code


> What I mean by CTRL characters is instead of a carriage return, Excel 
> shows
> a small square box.  Sorry for any confusion..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - 
> IT
> Helps
> Sent: 13 April 2005 11:58
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
>
>
> Not sure what you mean with CTRL characters?
> But this may help
>
> replace( "123crLfabc","crLf", vblf)
>
> OF course you need to create a function to replace all CTRL 
> charachters....
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> paul.hartland at fsmail.net
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:34 PM
> To: accessd
> Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
>
> To all,
>
> I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing 
> JobNo,
> StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an Excel
> spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields together
>
> strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf &
> PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole
>
> and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to put
> the data in the specific cell.
>
> The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in
> Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel view.
>
> Thanks in advance for all your help..
>
> Paul Hartland
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 13 10:49:25 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:49:25 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Fixed header names in crosstab query
Message-ID: <s25d5bc4.098@cactus.dk>

Hi Erwin

You will have to either build the complete SQL in code or modify the
SQL property of an existing query to create the "IN (...)" clause you
need.
I have found no other method.

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 3:31 pm >>>
When using a crosstab query the colomnheaders get the name of a
specific
data in a field.
When there is no data for a specific column the column is not
displayd.
IF you know that the number of columnrecords is fixed, like days for
example 1 to 31, you can add 1...31 in the column text of the
columnheader property.
As a result there are always 1 tot 31 headers (fields) even if no data
is present.
 
 
But Now I'm in the situation that I have activity codes in the
columns,
which are in a sub table.
How can I still do this trick but based on data in a table? Can I do
some kind of SQL insert into this columnname property?



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Apr 13 12:54:58 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:54:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access report
Message-ID: <017001c54051$e85a2e40$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

I would like to insert a table of contents into a rather lengthy report which can vary in its content.

The content is actually printed in two subreports.

Is there some way to know what page a detail record is on so that a table of contents could be generated and inserted into a report.

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 13 12:59:09 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A11@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <425D5DED.5000608@shaw.ca>

How about using Stephen Lebans Calendar control.
It is a wrapper around common control api calls so should be no 
versioning problem
http://www.lebans.com/monthcalendar.htm

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Yes indeed, but the control is connected to the office version.
>You can not use the A2K3 calendar control on a A2K machine, the A2K
>calendar control stays.. 
>
>I dont know how to check the calendar control version, but the access
>version must be simple.
>
>I'm looking at other controls like the Microsoft Date and Time picker...
>Looks nice to.
>
>Erwin
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:09 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control
>
>Hi Erwin
>
>Looks like a bug to me as vbSunday is 1 in all versions of Access.
>But it's a bug of the control not Access, so you should check the
>version of the control (or rather the reference to the control), not of
>Access.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
>>>>Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 12:52 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>I believe I explained myself poorly...
>
>The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
>The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
>So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.
>
>But thats the problem...
>If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get Monday
>as the first day.
>If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display
>Sunday as the first day.
>Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday Contant).
>
>So probably the only soluation is to check which version of
>calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2
>according to the access version.
>
>Or not using the calendar control :-(
>
>Erwin
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control
>
>Hi Erwin
>
>A clue is here:
>
>  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>Ok, this seems like a bug to me.
>
>The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
>calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the property
>.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)
>
>Fun fun fun
>
>Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?
>
>Erwin
> 
>
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>-
>IT Helps
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
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>Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
>
>Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
> 
>When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
>When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
>the dates are so small they look like a dot.
>It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
> 
>So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
>firstday to vbMonday.
>Should be right?
> 
>No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
>tuesday!!!
>I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 13 13:04:04 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:04:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
References: <3rr3lu$pcibev@mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net>
	<425D3B63.4314.2052214E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <425D5F14.2040008@shaw.ca>

Well I suppose you could have Access 2003 set with macro security set to 
high.
Which might protect against autoexec execution. I don't know if it stops 
intrinsic autoexec execution haven't tried it.

Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>On 12 Apr 2005 at 21:41, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi All:
>>
>>Just received this in the mail. Is this something new or has it been known
>>for a while?
>>
>>http://www.betanews.com/article/MS_Database_Engine_Flaw_Discovered/111332623
>>0
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Don't know the details, but it says:
>
>"The vulnerability is caused due to a memory handling error when e.g. 
>parsing database files. This can be exploited to execute arbitrary code by 
>tricking a user into opening a specially crafted ".mdb" file in Microsoft 
>Access."
>
>What's the difference between this and tricking a user into opening a 
>".mdb" file which contains an autoexec macro that calls a function that can 
>do any sort of dirty work you want?
>
>You can achieve exactly the same thing without using any "flaws".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Apr 13 13:06:09 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:06:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access report
In-Reply-To: <017001c54051$e85a2e40$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNEEKADHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Rocky,

  You need to force 2 pass mode, then save the descriptions and pages to a
table on the first pass.  See the following MSKB article:

ACC2000: How to Create a Table of Contents or Index for a Report
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=210269

Jim.

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Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:55 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access
report


Dear List:

I would like to insert a table of contents into a rather lengthy report
which can vary in its content.

The content is actually printed in two subreports.

Is there some way to know what page a detail record is on so that a table of
contents could be generated and inserted into a report.

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Apr 13 13:20:36 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:20:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access report
References: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNEEKADHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <018901c54055$7d9f0ae0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Jim:

Thank you.  That looks promising.  However, it says:

" When you preview the report, page through all of the pages of the report 
to make sure that the Print event is triggered for all records. "

which is not practical.  That's OK if I'm running it myself but not for an 
end user.

And I don't want to print it twice.  The page number is tracked in a counter 
that gets incremented in the page footer event.  So until the report is 
printed once there's no way to know what page a given record is on.

Is there a way to print without actually printing?

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at earthlink.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access 
report


> Rocky,
>
>  You need to force 2 pass mode, then save the descriptions and pages to a
> table on the first pass.  See the following MSKB article:
>
> ACC2000: How to Create a Table of Contents or Index for a Report
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=210269
>
> Jim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:55 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access
> report
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I would like to insert a table of contents into a rather lengthy report
> which can vary in its content.
>
> The content is actually printed in two subreports.
>
> Is there some way to know what page a detail record is on so that a table 
> of
> contents could be generated and inserted into a report.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Apr 13 13:20:28 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:20:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43013BD226@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Does anyone know why I do not have the option under macros to set the
security in my Access 2003?  Is this in installation choice that was not
installed by my IT department?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database


Well I suppose you could have Access 2003 set with macro security set to

high.
Which might protect against autoexec execution. I don't know if it stops

intrinsic autoexec execution haven't tried it.

Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>On 12 Apr 2005 at 21:41, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi All:
>>
>>Just received this in the mail. Is this something new or has it been
known
>>for a while?
>>
>>http://www.betanews.com/article/MS_Database_Engine_Flaw_Discovered/111
332623
>>0
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Don't know the details, but it says:
>
>"The vulnerability is caused due to a memory handling error when e.g. 
>parsing database files. This can be exploited to execute arbitrary code
by 
>tricking a user into opening a specially crafted ".mdb" file in
Microsoft 
>Access."
>
>What's the difference between this and tricking a user into opening a 
>".mdb" file which contains an autoexec macro that calls a function that
can 
>do any sort of dirty work you want?
>
>You can achieve exactly the same thing without using any "flaws".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>

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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Apr 13 13:42:58 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:42:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
References: <425CD11F.11283.1EB30889@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <004e01c5405c$f1782940$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello Stuart,

that did the trick.
Thanks for the help.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] add numbers


> On 12 Apr 2005 at 22:51, Pedro Janssen wrote:
>
> > Hello Stuart,
> >
> > thanks for your help. The function works perfect.But i forgot to tell
that
> > in the field [Para], also "normal" values are present like from 1 to 9.
When
> > using the function i get an error.on the: While InStr..... I tried to
adjust
> > the code, with no result.
> >
>
> Me bad, I didn't check for the end of the string in the While Loop.
> Try this one instead (watch for line wrap)
>
> Function Addnumbers(InputString As String) As Double
>    Dim lngStore As Double
>    Dim lngLoopcount As Double
>    lngLoopcount = 0
>    Do
>      lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
>          lngStore = lngStore + Val(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount))
>          'move past current number
>          While InStr("0123456789+-", Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount, 1)) >
0  And lngLoopcount <= Len(InputString)
>              lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
>          Wend
>    Loop Until lngLoopcount >= Len(InputString)
>    Addnumbers = lngStore
> End Function--
> Stuart
>
>
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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Apr 13 13:48:04 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:48:04 +0200
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
	MadeIt - Thanks)
References: <20050407211735.B04C740016@omta16.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <004f01c5405c$f1f87cd0$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hi Mark,

i joined the group ( i think) in 1999.
It has been many times a real  oracle and time saver.


Pedro Janssen



> Mark A Matte asked:
> > This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the 
> > website of all list members...It would be interesting to see 
> > how long people have actually been using Accessd.  I've used 
> > this group religiously since 1999.
> 
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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Apr 13 13:53:21 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:53:21 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
Message-ID: <005001c5405c$f31c6360$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello groep,

i have a field that containes codes like:

6.10.3.3 0
5.04.2.4 #0
6.12.3.3 #1
4.07.1.1 1

i need to add a value (.x, after the last number, before the space.

an example:

fieldA                     fieldB
6.10.3.3 0             16
5.04.2.4 #0           8


as result i would like:

fieldC
6.10.3.3.16 0
5.04.2.4.8 #0

Can this been done?

Pedro Janssen     


From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Wed Apr 13 14:39:20 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:39:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43013BD226@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKAEKBFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

Karen, just a shot in the dark, but are you sure the menu item wasn't
hidden, due to lack of use? Try clicking on the double down arrow and the
bottom of the menu list to see if any new items appear.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database


Does anyone know why I do not have the option under macros to set the
security in my Access 2003?  Is this in installation choice that was not
installed by my IT department?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database


Well I suppose you could have Access 2003 set with macro security set to

high.
Which might protect against autoexec execution. I don't know if it stops

intrinsic autoexec execution haven't tried it.

Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>On 12 Apr 2005 at 21:41, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hi All:
>>
>>Just received this in the mail. Is this something new or has it been
known
>>for a while?
>>
>>http://www.betanews.com/article/MS_Database_Engine_Flaw_Discovered/111
332623
>>0
>>
>>
>>
>
>Don't know the details, but it says:
>
>"The vulnerability is caused due to a memory handling error when e.g.
>parsing database files. This can be exploited to execute arbitrary code
by
>tricking a user into opening a specially crafted ".mdb" file in
Microsoft
>Access."
>
>What's the difference between this and tricking a user into opening a
>".mdb" file which contains an autoexec macro that calls a function that
can
>do any sort of dirty work you want?
>
>You can achieve exactly the same thing without using any "flaws".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 13 14:40:52 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:40:52 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
References: <3rr3lu$pcibev@mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net>
	<425D3B63.4314.2052214E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <425D75C4.3070806@shaw.ca>

Here is the details, it requires some assembler knowledge
http://www.hexview.com/docs/20050331-1.txt

Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>On 12 Apr 2005 at 21:41, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi All:
>>
>>Just received this in the mail. Is this something new or has it been known
>>for a while?
>>
>>http://www.betanews.com/article/MS_Database_Engine_Flaw_Discovered/111332623
>>0
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Don't know the details, but it says:
>
>"The vulnerability is caused due to a memory handling error when e.g. 
>parsing database files. This can be exploited to execute arbitrary code by 
>tricking a user into opening a specially crafted ".mdb" file in Microsoft 
>Access."
>
>What's the difference between this and tricking a user into opening a 
>".mdb" file which contains an autoexec macro that calls a function that can 
>do any sort of dirty work you want?
>
>You can achieve exactly the same thing without using any "flaws".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Wed Apr 13 14:42:11 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:42:11 -0500
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
	FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586CACC@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Wow!  That has to be the first time I've seen oracle and time saver in
the same sentence <VBG>.

/list member since early 1998, save for an extended break a few years
ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)


Hi Mark,

i joined the group ( i think) in 1999.
It has been many times a real  oracle and time saver.


Pedro Janssen

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 13 14:30:19 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:30:19 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43013BD226@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <425D734B.7060206@shaw.ca>

 Your network guy could have changed the following registry settings of the
following key, it should help you change the security level of the macro 
in Access 2003. He should be able to change this globally across the 
network for each client PC, there is even a way to do this from Access 
VBA code using WMI with proper network permissions.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Access\Security\Level

If the value is 1, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to low.
If the value is 2, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to medium.
If the value is 3, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to high.

Nicholson, Karen wrote:

>Does anyone know why I do not have the option under macros to set the
>security in my Access 2003?  Is this in installation choice that was not
>installed by my IT department?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:04 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
>
>
>Well I suppose you could have Access 2003 set with macro security set to
>
>high.
>Which might protect against autoexec execution. I don't know if it stops
>
>intrinsic autoexec execution haven't tried it.
>
>Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>
>  
>
>>On 12 Apr 2005 at 21:41, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi All:
>>>
>>>Just received this in the mail. Is this something new or has it been
>>>      
>>>
>known
>  
>
>>>for a while?
>>>
>>>http://www.betanews.com/article/MS_Database_Engine_Flaw_Discovered/111
>>>      
>>>
>332623
>  
>
>>>0
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Don't know the details, but it says:
>>
>>"The vulnerability is caused due to a memory handling error when e.g. 
>>parsing database files. This can be exploited to execute arbitrary code
>>    
>>
>by 
>  
>
>>tricking a user into opening a specially crafted ".mdb" file in
>>    
>>
>Microsoft 
>  
>
>>Access."
>>
>>What's the difference between this and tricking a user into opening a 
>>".mdb" file which contains an autoexec macro that calls a function that
>>    
>>
>can 
>  
>
>>do any sort of dirty work you want?
>>
>>You can achieve exactly the same thing without using any "flaws".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From nd500_lo at charter.net  Wed Apr 13 21:29:50 2005
From: nd500_lo at charter.net (Dian)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:29:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <20050413115658.UGJH2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <3rr9ri$ueut0o@mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net>

Wow....what am I doing now...in this group, feel like I should come up with
something brilliant...but, I can't. I do volunteer work to help women in a
shelter prepare for a better life, I'm helping a friend write a curriculum
to teach kids how to use the MS Office (including Access) suite...and I
maintain my 'baby dbs'...when someone asks for help. I am retired and a bit
lazy...I basically do what I want to do. Oh, and reading the messages in
here is the first thing I do when I have a chance...

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 

Wow...thank you. ;) 

What are you doing right now -- Access-wise. 

Susan H. 

Susan, thank you...but, you had no way of knowing...and your books (several
of them, actually) have helped me survive all the worst of it. I'm a major
fan. Thank you again...


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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Wed Apr 13 23:37:42 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:07:42 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
References: <005001c5405c$f31c6360$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <009f01c540ab$d08f3a80$501865cb@winxp>

Pedro,

    Select query given below should get you the desired results. A and B are the names of two fields in table named T_Nums. C is the name of calculated field generated by the query, inserting the contents of B into A in the manner specified by you.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

==================================
SELECT A, B, Replace(A," ","." & B & " ") AS C
FROM T_Nums;
==================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pedro Janssen 
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 00:23
  Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between


  Hello groep,

  i have a field that containes codes like:

  6.10.3.3 0
  5.04.2.4 #0
  6.12.3.3 #1
  4.07.1.1 1

  i need to add a value (.x, after the last number, before the space.

  an example:

  fieldA                     fieldB
  6.10.3.3 0             16
  5.04.2.4 #0           8


  as result i would like:

  fieldC
  6.10.3.3.16 0
  5.04.2.4.8 #0

  Can this been done?

  Pedro Janssen     


From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Wed Apr 13 23:43:03 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:43:03 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] SQL to Change a field value based on an input
Message-ID: <OFD0FEC623.9F4836E2-ONCA256FE3.0019A2D4@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Hi All,

I am trying to write a quick update which will change athe status field in
my DB to 1, and the status date to today if a date criteris is met. here is
my SQL

UPDATE tblDAuthorityRenewal SET tblDAuthorityRenewal.Status = 1,
tblDAuthorityRenewal.StatusDate = Date()
WHERE (((tblDAuthorityRenewal.EndDate)=#11/1/2003#));

except I am passing a parameter into the last bit (of course)

If I run this SQL either directkly or in my form the date changes to today
but the status doesn't change ...

Yours in confusion
Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange




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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Wed Apr 13 23:54:44 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:54:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Word closes before it shows the user the document
Message-ID: <OF74313350.F855F73B-ONCA256FE3.001ACB70@agric.nsw.gov.au>

Thanks Guys I got it to work by adapting a little of each comment. the key 
was partly in not releasing but also tweaking the rest .... have a mumbled 
lately about working with stuff other programmers have written before you 
LOL

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries 
Orange

Try not releasing the object maybe

mark

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: 09 April 2005 18:34
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Word closes before it shows the user the document


Just maybe this is it, part way through your code you suddenly

    Set objWord = Nothing 


                objWord.Activate    ' Activates Word
                objWord.Visible = True    ' Show Word to the user.
                objWord.WindowState = wdWindowStateMaximize
                Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.



connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Now trying to fix a 2nd database which is not working, written in 
>Access97. Problem is there is a Form letter function (code below) when 
>I call this function it opens word but no document appears in the 
>window. The popup to ask if it printed OK appears but the document is 
>not visible to the user and no printing occurs. If I comment out the 
>line '.Documents(strMainDocument).Close SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges

>I get a program monitor error but the document is visible.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Connie Kamrowski
>
>Analyst/Programmer
>Information Technology
>NSW Department of Primary Industries
>Orange
>
>
>Public Sub Export_Word()
>Dim rsA0001 As Recordset
>
>Dim objWord As Word.Application
>Dim strMainDocument As String
>
>Dim dbExportWord As Database
>Dim rsExportWord As Recordset
>Dim booPrintBackground As Boolean
>
>
>gfLetterPrintedOK = False 'Value will be set to true if the user 
>verifies that the letter printed
>
>' Resume to the next line following the error.
>On Error Resume Next
>
>' Attempt to reference Word which is already running.
>Set objWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")
>If Err = 429 Then
>    Set objWord = New Word.Application
>    Err = 0
>End If
>
>
>' If true, Word is not running.
>If objWord Is Nothing Then
>        ' Create a new instance of the Word application.
>        Set objWord = New Word.Application
>        ' If true, MS Word is not installed.
>        If objWord Is Nothing Then
>                MsgBox "MS Word is not installed on your computer"
>                GoTo ExitRoutine
>        End If 'objWord Is Nothing
>End If 'objWord Is Nothing
>
>'Check to Ensure the temporary RTF file has been deleted, if not,
Delete it
>    gstrWordDirectory = Dir$(strTempRTFFile, vbNormal)
>        If gstrWordDirectory <> "" Then
>                On Error GoTo Failure 'Displays 'File Access Error 
>(#71) if a form letter is already open
>                    Kill strTempRTFFile
>                On Error Resume Next
>        End If 'gstrWordDirectory <> ""
>
>    If gstrAccessWordQuery = "" Then
>                    'Print Blank Form
>                        objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate)
>                Else
>                    DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputQuery, gstrAccessWordQuery,
_
>                        acFormatRTF, strTempRTFFile, False
>                    objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate) 'Template 
>document '*.dot'
>                    strMainDocument = objWord.ActiveDocument.Name 'Sets

>the name of the 'Main Document' (template document)
>                    'so that it can be closed later
>
>                    With objWord.ActiveDocument.MailMerge
>                        .SuppressBlankLines = True
>                        .ViewMailMergeFieldCodes = False
>                        .Destination = wdSendToNewDocument
>                        .Execute
>                    End With
>
>                    With objWord 'Close Main Document
>                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Activate
>                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Close 
>SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges
>                           ' Store background printing option.
>
>
>
>                     End With
>
>                objWord.Activate    ' Activates Word
>                objWord.Visible = True    ' Show Word to the user.
>                objWord.WindowState = wdWindowStateMaximize
>                Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.
>
>            On Error GoTo Failure
>
>                If MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?", vbYesNo, 
>"Form Letters") = vbYes Then
>
>                        gfLetterPrintedOK = True
>                        Set dbExportWord = CurrentDb()
>                        Set rsExportWord = 
>dbExportWord.OpenRecordset("tblLettersSent", dbOpenDynaset, 
>dbFailOnError)
>
>                        With rsExportWord
>                            .AddNew
>                                !LTRLPBNumber = gstrRLPBNumber
>                                !LTPropertyID = glngMainPropertyID
>                                !LTFormLetterID = gstrFormLetterID
>                                !LTComment = gstrFormLetterComment
>                                !LTDatePrinted = Date
>                                !LTTimePrinted = Time
>                            .Update
>                        End With
>
>                        Select Case getgstrFormLetterID()
>                            Case "A0001"
>                                dbExportWord.Execute "A000104", 
>dbFailOnError
>
>                        End Select
>                End If 'MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?"...
>      End If 'gstrAccessWordQuery = ""
>
>
>ExitRoutine:
>    On Error Resume Next
>        rsExportWord.Close
>        Set rsExportWord = Nothing
>        dbExportWord.Close
>        Set dbExportWord = Nothing
>        rsA0001.Close
>        Set rsA0001 = Nothing
>        Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.
>    Exit Sub
>
>Failure:
>        Call ErrorHandler(strProcedureName:="Export_Word",
>lngErrorNumber:=Err.Number, _
>            strErrorDescription:=Err.Description, _
>            strErrorSource:=Err.Source)
>        Resume ExitRoutine
>
> End Sub
>
>
>
>
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From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:57:01 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Apr 14 00:31:08 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:01:08 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899F26@infoserver01.infostat.lo
	cal> <015301c53f76$b7c44030$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <00f801c540b3$3c82dce0$501865cb@winxp>

Rocky,

    Under certain situations, the following set of commands are known to disturb page numbering.
    MoveLayout
    NextRecord
    PrintSection
    ForceNewPage

    You have confirmed that ForceNewPage is not being used in your report. You might now like to scrutinize the other three, wherever occurring. (As a test, if you disable these commands, your page numbering should revert to normal).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 21:15
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering


  Charlotte:

  No page breaks.  Three sub-reports in the detail section.

  I have the following events :

  Private Sub Detail_Format
  Private Sub Detail_Print
  Private Sub GroupFooter0_Print
  Private Sub Report_NoData
  Private Sub Report_Open
  Private Sub ReportFooter_Format
  Private Sub ReportHeader_Format

  The format events mostly stick things into text boxes.  I do have :

      Me.MoveLayout = False
      Me.NextRecord = True
      Me.PrintSection = False
      Exit Sub

  in a couple of places which get triggered on certain conditions.

  Any clues there?

  Thanks and Regards,

  Rocky Smolin
  Beach Access Software
  http://www.e-z-mrp.com
  858-259-4334

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:25 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering


  > Does it actually print two pages or just one?  I have seen this, but it
  > has been caused by several different things, so you need to fill in the
  > blanks for us.  Do you have any physical page break in the report? Do
  > you have any formatting that breaks before or after a section?
  >
  > Charlotte Foust
  >
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
  > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:12 PM
  > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  > Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
  >
  >
  > Dear List:
  >
  > I have a one page report and at the bottom it prints Page 1 of 2.  I'm
  > using the standard ="Page " & [Page] & " of " & [Pages] to print the
  > page numbers which was actually generated by the Access report wiz.
  >
  > This has never failed before.
  >
  > Has anyone seen anything like this?
  >
  > MTIA
  >
  > Rocky Smolin
  > Beach Access Software
  > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
  > 858-259-4334


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Apr 14 01:56:48 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:56:48 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A18@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I take a look at it. I see it based on the common controls library wich
contains the date/time picker from ms.

I only see that it base on a click-a-control principle while a need a
fix month view on the main form.
But I will check it out.

thx

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar control

How about using Stephen Lebans Calendar control.
It is a wrapper around common control api calls so should be no
versioning problem http://www.lebans.com/monthcalendar.htm

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Yes indeed, but the control is connected to the office version.
>You can not use the A2K3 calendar control on a A2K machine, the A2K 
>calendar control stays..
>
>I dont know how to check the calendar control version, but the access 
>version must be simple.
>
>I'm looking at other controls like the Microsoft Date and Time
picker...
>Looks nice to.
>
>Erwin
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:09 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control
>
>Hi Erwin
>
>Looks like a bug to me as vbSunday is 1 in all versions of Access.
>But it's a bug of the control not Access, so you should check the 
>version of the control (or rather the reference to the control), not of

>Access.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
>>>>Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 12:52 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>I believe I explained myself poorly...
>
>The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
>The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
>So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.
>
>But thats the problem...
>If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get 
>Monday as the first day.
>If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display 
>Sunday as the first day.
>Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday
Contant).
>
>So probably the only soluation is to check which version of 
>calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2 
>according to the access version.
>
>Or not using the calendar control :-(
>
>Erwin
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control
>
>Hi Erwin
>
>A clue is here:
>
>  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>Ok, this seems like a bug to me.
>
>The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3 
>calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the property

>.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)
>
>Fun fun fun
>
>Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?
>
>Erwin
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
>-
>IT Helps
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
>
>Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
> 
>When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
>When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and 
>the dates are so small they look like a dot.
>It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
> 
>So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my 
>firstday to vbMonday.
>Should be right?
> 
>No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is 
>tuesday!!!
>I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 14 03:17:26 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:17:26 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
In-Reply-To: <005001c5405c$f31c6360$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <425EB3B6.3960.F9B1E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 13 Apr 2005 at 20:53, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> fieldA                     fieldB
> 6.10.3.3 0             16
> 5.04.2.4 #0           8
> as result i would like:
> fieldC
> 6.10.3.3.16 0
> 5.04.2.4.8 #0
> 

This should do it:
fieldC: Left$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," ") -1) & "." & fieldB & 
Mid$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," "))







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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 14 08:00:31 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:00:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access report
In-Reply-To: <018901c54055$7d9f0ae0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNCEOEDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Rocky,

<<" When you preview the report, page through all of the pages of the report
to make sure that the Print event is triggered for all records. "

which is not practical.  That's OK if I'm running it myself but not for an
end user.>>

  I haven't read the article yet, but the article is wrong.  By referencing
the pages property within a control (which can be hidden), the report engine
is forced into two pass mode.

  It first does a dry run of the entire report without printing.  It is
important to note that the OnPrint events are by-passed on this dry run, so
any logic for capturing page numbers or modifying the layout must be in the
OnFormat events..

  I just worked on a college transcript problem for someone where a column
footer needed to be placed at the end of each column.  Here's the resulting
code from the term footer OnFormat event.  This used the two pass technique
and saved the footer location for each footer to a table.  A message was
displayed based on whether or not additional footers remained to be printed
it's location.  The code is shown below.

Jim.

  If FormatCount = 1 Then

    ' Try and find the footer.
    rstFooterInfo.Seek "=", varLastSYVRTRN_INSTIT_TRANSFER,
varLastSYVRTRN_SBGI_CODE, varLastSYVRTRN_TERM_CODE

    If rstFooterInfo.NoMatch Then
      ' Save the footer info
      rstFooterInfo.AddNew
    Else
      rstFooterInfo.Edit
    End If

    rstFooterInfo![SYVRTRN_INSTIT_TRANSFER] = varLastSYVRTRN_INSTIT_TRANSFER
    rstFooterInfo![SYVRTRN_SBGI_CODE] = varLastSYVRTRN_SBGI_CODE
    rstFooterInfo![SYVRTRN_TERM_CODE] = varLastSYVRTRN_TERM_CODE
    rstFooterInfo![PageNumber] = Me.Page
    rstFooterInfo![ColumnNumber] = IIf(Me.Left < 3000, 0, 1)
    rstFooterInfo.Update



    ' Format the continue message

    ' Is there another footer in front of us?
    rstFooterInfo.Seek ">", varLastSYVRTRN_INSTIT_TRANSFER,
varLastSYVRTRN_SBGI_CODE, varLastSYVRTRN_TERM_CODE
    If rstFooterInfo.NoMatch Then
      ' This is the last footer
      txtContinuation.Value = ""
    Else
      ' We have something more to print
      ' which column is the next footer in?
      If rstFooterInfo![PageNumber] = Me.Page And
rstFooterInfo![ColumnNumber] = IIf(Me.Left < 3000, 0, 1) Then
        ' Next section is within the same page and col.
        ' No message
        txtContinuation.Value = ""
      Else
        If rstFooterInfo![ColumnNumber] = 0 Then
          ' We must be in the right column right now
          txtContinuation.Value = "********************* CONTINUED ON PAGE "
& rstFooterInfo![PageNumber] & " *********************"
        Else
          ' We are in the left column
          txtContinuation.Value = "****************** CONTINUED IN NEXT
COLUMN *******************"
        End If
      End If
    End If
  End If








-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access
report


Jim:

Thank you.  That looks promising.  However, it says:

" When you preview the report, page through all of the pages of the report
to make sure that the Print event is triggered for all records. "

which is not practical.  That's OK if I'm running it myself but not for an
end user.

And I don't want to print it twice.  The page number is tracked in a counter
that gets incremented in the page footer event.  So until the report is
printed once there's no way to know what page a given record is on.

Is there a way to print without actually printing?

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at earthlink.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access
report


> Rocky,
>
>  You need to force 2 pass mode, then save the descriptions and pages to a
> table on the first pass.  See the following MSKB article:
>
> ACC2000: How to Create a Table of Contents or Index for a Report
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=210269
>
> Jim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:55 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access
> report
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I would like to insert a table of contents into a rather lengthy report
> which can vary in its content.
>
> The content is actually printed in two subreports.
>
> Is there some way to know what page a detail record is on so that a table
> of
> contents could be generated and inserted into a report.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 14 08:03:17 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:03:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <3rr9ri$ueut0o@mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNKEOEDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Dian,

<< I do volunteer work to help women in a
shelter prepare for a better life, I'm helping a friend write a curriculum
to teach kids how to use the MS Office (including Access) suite...and I
maintain my 'baby dbs'...when someone asks for help.>>

  Sounds like your being "brilliant" to me.  I believe that the noblest
pursuit in life is to help others without real benefit to yourself.

Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dian
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Wow....what am I doing now...in this group, feel like I should come up with
something brilliant...but, I can't. I do volunteer work to help women in a
shelter prepare for a better life, I'm helping a friend write a curriculum
to teach kids how to use the MS Office (including Access) suite...and I
maintain my 'baby dbs'...when someone asks for help. I am retired and a bit
lazy...I basically do what I want to do. Oh, and reading the messages in
here is the first thing I do when I have a chance...

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?

Wow...thank you. ;)

What are you doing right now -- Access-wise.

Susan H.

Susan, thank you...but, you had no way of knowing...and your books (several
of them, actually) have helped me survive all the worst of it. I'm a major
fan. Thank you again...


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From pennwhite at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 14 08:04:30 2005
From: pennwhite at hotmail.com (Penn White)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:04:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help Authoring Tool recommendations?
References: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNCEOEDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY23-DAV747C8AB5B8FC67914B275BD350@phx.gbl>

Hi all,

New to the group.

Does anyone have experience with any Help Authoring tools for use with 
ACC03 - especially the free ones <grin>?

Thanks,

Penn 


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 14 08:11:42 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:11:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access report
In-Reply-To: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNCEOEDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20050414131146.FKUD2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 

  I haven't read the article yet, but the article is wrong.  By referencing
the pages property within a control (which can be hidden), the report engine
is forced into two pass mode.

  ========Some of my best work comes from rewriting kb and msdn articles so
that they actually work. 

Susan H. 



From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Thu Apr 14 08:14:42 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:14:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F25D@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

I think it was Jerry Lewis who said something to the effect of;

The most selfish thing you can do is help other people because it makes you feel so good.

Of course he didn't mean that in a bad way...

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 


Dian,

<< I do volunteer work to help women in a
shelter prepare for a better life, I'm helping a friend write a curriculum
to teach kids how to use the MS Office (including Access) suite...and I
maintain my 'baby dbs'...when someone asks for help.>>

  Sounds like your being "brilliant" to me.  I believe that the noblest
pursuit in life is to help others without real benefit to yourself.

Jim.


From Dave.Bucher at state.mn.us  Thu Apr 14 08:54:41 2005
From: Dave.Bucher at state.mn.us (Bucher, Dave)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:54:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls
Message-ID: <DFE71DA828F48342A3AC388F6681D0D83E8315@DHS10081.mn-dhse.co.dhs>

Just had troubles with both the DatePicker and Calendar controls. Many
discussions can be Googled of folks having troubles with these Active X
controls. I downloaded and modified Brendan Kidwell's free Date Picker
vis-a-vis The Access Web at http://www.mvps.org/access/forms/frm0057.htm
and it works like a charm.


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Apr 14 09:00:34 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:00:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Help Authoring Tool recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <31674687.1113484034901.JavaMail.root@sniper23>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAKRPAT7tOtU+0NwKCIFEJ+wEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Hi Penn,

I've used HelpMatic Pro HTML.  I haven't used any other programs but this
seemed fine to me.  It did only cost $50, so that's not too bad.

It does let you create a CSS file for consistent and easily changeable
formatting.

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Penn White
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Help Authoring Tool recommendations?

Hi all,

New to the group.

Does anyone have experience with any Help Authoring tools for use with 
ACC03 - especially the free ones <grin>?

Thanks,

Penn 
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 14 09:52:42 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:52:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F25D@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNGEPBDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Neal,

<<The most selfish thing you can do is help other people because it makes
you feel so good.>>

 Never thought of it that way, but he's right<g>

  When I said "without real benefit to yourself", I meant monetarily.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:15 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


I think it was Jerry Lewis who said something to the effect of;

The most selfish thing you can do is help other people because it makes you
feel so good.

Of course he didn't mean that in a bad way...

Neal

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Dian,

<< I do volunteer work to help women in a
shelter prepare for a better life, I'm helping a friend write a curriculum
to teach kids how to use the MS Office (including Access) suite...and I
maintain my 'baby dbs'...when someone asks for help.>>

  Sounds like your being "brilliant" to me.  I believe that the noblest
pursuit in life is to help others without real benefit to yourself.

Jim.
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 11:13:12 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:13:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
Message-ID: <39cb22f305041409137f59197f@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Group,

This is far from urgent. I'm simply trying to make it easier for a client.

I've set up a form for my client to add news items to a web page I put
together for her. There are text boxes for a date, a title for the
item, and for the text of the news item itself. That text box is
called txtNewsItem.

There, of course, is no formatting in a text box; but I'd like to give
my client the option to insert the proper HTML codes for bold, italic,
underline, line break, etc. I could give her a cheat sheat with a few
of the codes listed and how to type them in properly, but I'd like to
go a little further. Is there a way for, say, the <b></b> codes to be
inserted in a text box with a keystroke like Ctrl-B?

I've been experimenting with SendKeys and OnKeyUp. I discovered that
the SendKeys action itself triggers the OnKeyUp event; so a bit of
code like this in the On Key Up event procedure does NOT work
properly:

Private Sub NewsItem_KeyUp(KeyCode As Integer, Shift As Integer)
If Shift And acCtrlMask Then
   Select Case KeyCode
      Case Asc("B"), Asc("b")
         SendKeys "<b></b>"
         ... etc.

So I moved the SendKeys to a Click event procedure of a button off to
the side of the txtNewsItem text box...but when I use code like this:

Private Sub cmdBold_Click()
   Screen.PreviousControl.SetFocus
   SendKeys "<b></b>"

... the HTML codes are placed at the END of the text in the box. The
cursor position is lost when the button is clicked.

Ideally I'd like the user to be able to select a block of text and
press Ctrl-B and have the HTML <b> and </b> codes appear surrounding
the selected text. Is this even possible?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security


From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Thu Apr 14 11:17:24 2005
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:17:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <OF178D69D5.10C6AB4C-ONCA256FE3.001AF1E5@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <026401c5410d$72177f50$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


I was welcomed in to the list on October 15, 2003. I heard about the group
at least a year earlier, and tried to join, but the DatabaseAdvisors site
was damnibly hard to find using a Google search, and I gave up. Out of
curiosity, I've just tried searching again, with better success. However, it
is still unclear from the DatabaseAdvisors results that it is indeed the
AccessD group. Fortunately, other sites now do a much better job of equating
the two in their links, so you can find the real site with a little extra
clicking. I would suggest revisiting the site from a Web Search perspective,
and revising your page titles and introductory pages, to drive home that
DatabaseAdvisors really is AccessD.

-Ken




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr 14 11:27:21 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:27:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I think what you're looking for is an autokeys macro.  You can find info
in Help using the AutoKeys search word.  The name of each autokey macro
is a ^x syntax, which represents the combination of control key and
letter to press to trigger the macro.  The macro can use a SendKeys to
insert the desired text at the cursor position.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box


Dear Group,

This is far from urgent. I'm simply trying to make it easier for a
client.

I've set up a form for my client to add news items to a web page I put
together for her. There are text boxes for a date, a title for the item,
and for the text of the news item itself. That text box is called
txtNewsItem.

There, of course, is no formatting in a text box; but I'd like to give
my client the option to insert the proper HTML codes for bold, italic,
underline, line break, etc. I could give her a cheat sheat with a few of
the codes listed and how to type them in properly, but I'd like to go a
little further. Is there a way for, say, the <b></b> codes to be
inserted in a text box with a keystroke like Ctrl-B?

I've been experimenting with SendKeys and OnKeyUp. I discovered that the
SendKeys action itself triggers the OnKeyUp event; so a bit of code like
this in the On Key Up event procedure does NOT work
properly:

Private Sub NewsItem_KeyUp(KeyCode As Integer, Shift As Integer) If
Shift And acCtrlMask Then
   Select Case KeyCode
      Case Asc("B"), Asc("b")
         SendKeys "<b></b>"
         ... etc.

So I moved the SendKeys to a Click event procedure of a button off to
the side of the txtNewsItem text box...but when I use code like this:

Private Sub cmdBold_Click()
   Screen.PreviousControl.SetFocus
   SendKeys "<b></b>"

... the HTML codes are placed at the END of the text in the box. The
cursor position is lost when the button is clicked.

Ideally I'd like the user to be able to select a block of text and press
Ctrl-B and have the HTML <b> and </b> codes appear surrounding the
selected text. Is this even possible?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Thu Apr 14 11:34:45 2005
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:34:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f305041409137f59197f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050414163644.TTMV5402.mta11.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>

Steve

You might want to consider using Stephen Lebans' Rich Text Format 2 control
(http://www.lebans.com/richtext.htm).

Regards,
Bob Gajewski
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box

Dear Group,

This is far from urgent. I'm simply trying to make it easier for a client.

I've set up a form for my client to add news items to a web page I put
together for her. There are text boxes for a date, a title for the item, and
for the text of the news item itself. That text box is called txtNewsItem.

There, of course, is no formatting in a text box; but I'd like to give my
client the option to insert the proper HTML codes for bold, italic,
underline, line break, etc. I could give her a cheat sheat with a few of the
codes listed and how to type them in properly, but I'd like to go a little
further. Is there a way for, say, the <b></b> codes to be inserted in a text
box with a keystroke like Ctrl-B?

I've been experimenting with SendKeys and OnKeyUp. I discovered that the
SendKeys action itself triggers the OnKeyUp event; so a bit of code like
this in the On Key Up event procedure does NOT work
properly:

Private Sub NewsItem_KeyUp(KeyCode As Integer, Shift As Integer) If Shift
And acCtrlMask Then
   Select Case KeyCode
      Case Asc("B"), Asc("b")
         SendKeys "<b></b>"
         ... etc.

So I moved the SendKeys to a Click event procedure of a button off to the
side of the txtNewsItem text box...but when I use code like this:

Private Sub cmdBold_Click()
   Screen.PreviousControl.SetFocus
   SendKeys "<b></b>"

... the HTML codes are placed at the END of the text in the box. The cursor
position is lost when the button is clicked.

Ideally I'd like the user to be able to select a block of text and press
Ctrl-B and have the HTML <b> and </b> codes appear surrounding the selected
text. Is this even possible?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Thu Apr 14 12:11:33 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:11:33 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374F4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAEHMCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hey Jim,
Thanks again for the code it works just fine except for when I use it for my
actual project.
When using your code in a table in Word it retrieves the text of interest
okay, but also includes the search string.
After much testing I find this only happens in the table, which of course is
where I need to cull the data from.
I have looked at selection.movestart and some other Word functions to no
avail.
Would you have any ideas?

bob



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Here is some quick and dirty code that opens a Word doc from inside Access,
searches for the string "special code:" and sets a string variable equal to
the sentence that follows the code string. If your documents all have the
same string you can find that string and select words, sentences or
paragraphs that come after it. HTH
Jim Hale

Function LiftText()

Dim wd As Word.Application, strPhrase As String, strFindphrase As String
strFindphrase = "special code:"
Set wd = New Word.Application
wd.Documents.Open "C:\Test.doc"
wd.Visible = True
wd.Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
    With wd.Selection.Find
        .Text = strFindphrase
        .Replacement.Text = ""
        .Forward = True
        .Wrap = wdFindContinue
        .Format = False
        .MatchCase = False
        .MatchWholeWord = False
        .MatchWildcards = False
        .MatchSoundsLike = False
        .MatchAllWordForms = False
    End With
    wd.Selection.Find.Execute
    wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
    strPhrase = wd.Selection
    MsgBox "Look what I found: " & strPhrase
    wd.ActiveDocument.Close
    wd.Quit
    Set wd = Nothing
End Function

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.

thanks anyway.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Apr 14 12:27:53 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:27:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Help Authoring Tool recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <27884291.1113487534936.JavaMail.root@sniper19>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAxOyOgBB5vEib8quXhUXAkQEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Penn,

I should have also mentioned that HelpMatic Pro HTML can be used with the
Help Context ID property for controls and forms.

Dan Waters


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help Authoring Tool recommendations?

Hi Penn,

I've used HelpMatic Pro HTML.  I haven't used any other programs but this
seemed fine to me.  It did only cost $50, so that's not too bad.

It does let you create a CSS file for consistent and easily changeable
formatting.

Dan Waters


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Penn White
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Help Authoring Tool recommendations?

Hi all,

New to the group.

Does anyone have experience with any Help Authoring tools for use with 
ACC03 - especially the free ones <grin>?

Thanks,

Penn 
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From Jeff at outbaktech.com  Thu Apr 14 12:31:28 2005
From: Jeff at outbaktech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:31:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
Message-ID: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D0D9100@belgarion.Outbak.local>

Hello Group!!!
 
I am at a client site and I am having a brain dead moment here.
 
I have a form where the user selects the parameters for a report (query).  I send the Parameter to the query to populate the report.  Here is the problem, what do I send as the parameter if the user wants to select 'ALL' of the possible values for the Parameter.  I know that I have seen or done this before, but I can not think of how I did this.
 
Please Help!!
 
TIA
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr 14 12:47:04 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:47:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Depends on the structure of the query and the parameter.  More info
please.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:31 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query


Hello Group!!!
 
I am at a client site and I am having a brain dead moment here.
 
I have a form where the user selects the parameters for a report
(query).  I send the Parameter to the query to populate the report.
Here is the problem, what do I send as the parameter if the user wants
to select 'ALL' of the possible values for the Parameter.  I know that I
have seen or done this before, but I can not think of how I did this.
 
Please Help!!
 
TIA
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Apr 14 12:55:26 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:55:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B6A724@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9F7@ADGSERVER>

What about having a separate text box where the user types the raw text.
Then they click on a formatting button that adds the HTML around the text
and appends it to the main text box?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box


Dear Group,

This is far from urgent. I'm simply trying to make it easier for a client.

I've set up a form for my client to add news items to a web page I put
together for her. There are text boxes for a date, a title for the item, and
for the text of the news item itself. That text box is called txtNewsItem.

There, of course, is no formatting in a text box; but I'd like to give my
client the option to insert the proper HTML codes for bold, italic,
underline, line break, etc. I could give her a cheat sheat with a few of the
codes listed and how to type them in properly, but I'd like to go a little
further. Is there a way for, say, the <b></b> codes to be inserted in a text
box with a keystroke like Ctrl-B?

I've been experimenting with SendKeys and OnKeyUp. I discovered that the
SendKeys action itself triggers the OnKeyUp event; so a bit of code like
this in the On Key Up event procedure does NOT work
properly:

Private Sub NewsItem_KeyUp(KeyCode As Integer, Shift As Integer) If Shift
And acCtrlMask Then
   Select Case KeyCode
      Case Asc("B"), Asc("b")
         SendKeys "<b></b>"
         ... etc.

So I moved the SendKeys to a Click event procedure of a button off to the
side of the txtNewsItem text box...but when I use code like this:

Private Sub cmdBold_Click()
   Screen.PreviousControl.SetFocus
   SendKeys "<b></b>"

... the HTML codes are placed at the END of the text in the box. The cursor
position is lost when the button is clicked.

Ideally I'd like the user to be able to select a block of text and press
Ctrl-B and have the HTML <b> and </b> codes appear surrounding the selected
text. Is this even possible?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 14 13:02:58 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:02:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
In-Reply-To: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D0D9100@belgarion.Outbak.local>
Message-ID: <20050414180302.QCID2186.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Like [your prompt] & "*"

Susan H.  

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:31 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query

Hello Group!!!
 
I am at a client site and I am having a brain dead moment here.
 
I have a form where the user selects the parameters for a report (query).  I
send the Parameter to the query to populate the report.  Here is the
problem, what do I send as the parameter if the user wants to select 'ALL'
of the possible values for the Parameter.  I know that I have seen or done
this before, but I can not think of how I did this.
 
Please Help!!
 
TIA
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Thu Apr 14 13:05:46 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586CBCB@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Jeff,

If you use a Like operator instead of an equals sign in your WHERE
clause, you can pass in an asterisk to select all.
For example:

SELECT Employee.FirstName, Employee.LastName
FROM Employee
WHERE Employee.LastName Like [MyNameParameter];

To get a specific employee, you would pass in "Smith", "Jones", etc.  If
you pass "*" as the parameter instead, it will return all records.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:31 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query


Hello Group!!!
 
I am at a client site and I am having a brain dead moment here.
 
I have a form where the user selects the parameters for a report
(query).  I send the Parameter to the query to populate the report.
Here is the problem, what do I send as the parameter if the user wants
to select 'ALL' of the possible values for the Parameter.  I know that I
have seen or done this before, but I can not think of how I did this.
 
Please Help!!
 
TIA
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com

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From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:22:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <20050414163644.TTMV5402.mta11.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>
References: <39cb22f305041409137f59197f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20050414163644.TTMV5402.mta11.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050414112214e15703@mail.gmail.com>

Bob,

I like Lebans offerings, but, again, I'm trying to insert HTML codes
into the text stream, not just bold or italicize the text in the
table.

Steve Erbach

On 4/14/05, Bob Gajewski <rbgajewski at adelphia.net> wrote:
> Steve
> 
> You might want to consider using Stephen Lebans' Rich Text Format 2 control
> (http://www.lebans.com/richtext.htm).
> 
> Regards,
> Bob Gajewski


From ldoering at symphonyinfo.com  Thu Apr 14 13:23:52 2005
From: ldoering at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:23:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f305041409137f59197f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1DM91I-0007fx-00@pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net>

Steve,

I just create buttons along side of my text box for this, with names like
"Paragraph" or "Bold".  Use the & to give the alt+p or alt+b keyboard
functionality.  This way, the user can just add the symbol they want as they
are typing.

Then on the button click do this:

Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox = Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox & " add this"
Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox.SetFocus
Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox.SelStart = Len(Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox) + 1

You have to set the focus back on the end of your text, otherwise it will
stay on the button.

You could also set a hidden field for off and on, so that the first time she
hit the button it would produce <b> and the second time it would produce
</b>.


Liz


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box

Dear Group,

This is far from urgent. I'm simply trying to make it easier for a client.

I've set up a form for my client to add news items to a web page I put
together for her. There are text boxes for a date, a title for the
item, and for the text of the news item itself. That text box is
called txtNewsItem.

There, of course, is no formatting in a text box; but I'd like to give
my client the option to insert the proper HTML codes for bold, italic,
underline, line break, etc. I could give her a cheat sheat with a few
of the codes listed and how to type them in properly, but I'd like to
go a little further. Is there a way for, say, the <b></b> codes to be
inserted in a text box with a keystroke like Ctrl-B?

I've been experimenting with SendKeys and OnKeyUp. I discovered that
the SendKeys action itself triggers the OnKeyUp event; so a bit of
code like this in the On Key Up event procedure does NOT work
properly:

Private Sub NewsItem_KeyUp(KeyCode As Integer, Shift As Integer)
If Shift And acCtrlMask Then
   Select Case KeyCode
      Case Asc("B"), Asc("b")
         SendKeys "<b></b>"
         ... etc.

So I moved the SendKeys to a Click event procedure of a button off to
the side of the txtNewsItem text box...but when I use code like this:

Private Sub cmdBold_Click()
   Screen.PreviousControl.SetFocus
   SendKeys "<b></b>"

... the HTML codes are placed at the END of the text in the box. The
cursor position is lost when the button is clicked.

Ideally I'd like the user to be able to select a block of text and
press Ctrl-B and have the HTML <b> and </b> codes appear surrounding
the selected text. Is this even possible?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 13:45:02 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:45:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305041411457053a646@mail.gmail.com>

Charlotte,

It's possible that my Access 2000 installation is a bit screwy. I
tried that AutoKeys thing in Access 2003 and it works as advertised.
My new ^b macro uses SendKeys to insert <b></b> at the cursor just
fine.

However, on an older machine with Access 2000 installed, I set up the
same macro in AutoKeys, but when I press the key combo, a message
appears in the Access status bar: "Setting up wizards..." and a
progress bar appears next to it. A single block appears in the status
bar and nothing happens. If I then press ^b again, the status message
and progress bar disappears, but still no HTML codes. I think I'll see
what happens if I open this Access 2000 database in 2003 and do the
macros there.

Thanks, Charlotte.

On 4/14/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> I think what you're looking for is an autokeys macro.  You can find info
> in Help using the AutoKeys search word.  The name of each autokey macro
> is a ^x syntax, which represents the combination of control key and
> letter to press to trigger the macro.  The macro can use a SendKeys to
> insert the desired text at the cursor position.
> 
> Charlotte Foust

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From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 13:51:43 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:51:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <E1DM91I-0007fx-00@pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <39cb22f305041409137f59197f@mail.gmail.com>
	<E1DM91I-0007fx-00@pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net>
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Liz,

You know, when I was puzzling over this before I posted my question, I
tried to find the commands for selecting text in a text box, but was
unsuccessful. SelStart! That's it.

I was trying to duplicate what I could do manually if I were, say, to
record a keystroke macro...as if Access allowed me to do something
like that. I'd select the text, press Ctrl-X to cut, type in <b>,
press Ctrl-V to paste the text back in, and finally type </b>. I
couldn't for the life of me figure out why I couldn't do this even
though there are RunCommands for acCmdCut and acCmdPaste. When I tried
to do this in code I go a message saying that Paste was not
appropriate in the current context or something like that.

Hmmm...this is worth looking into. Thank you very much.

Steve Erbach

On 4/14/05, Liz Doering <ldoering at symphonyinfo.com> wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> I just create buttons along side of my text box for this, with names like
> "Paragraph" or "Bold".  Use the & to give the alt+p or alt+b keyboard
> functionality.  This way, the user can just add the symbol they want as they
> are typing.
> 
> Then on the button click do this:
> 
> Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox = Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox & " add this"
> Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox.SetFocus
> Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox.SelStart = Len(Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox) + 1
> 
> You have to set the focus back on the end of your text, otherwise it will
> stay on the button.
> 
> You could also set a hidden field for off and on, so that the first time she
> hit the button it would produce <b> and the second time it would produce
> </b>.
> 
> 
> Liz


From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 13:56:59 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:56:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050414115654b6ab2e@mail.gmail.com>

Charlotte,

Yeah, if I open the Access 2000 database in Access 2003, the SendKeys
macro works properly. I think I'll use this. Thanks to all!

Steve Erbach

On 4/14/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> I think what you're looking for is an autokeys macro.  You can find info
> in Help using the AutoKeys search word.  The name of each autokey macro
> is a ^x syntax, which represents the combination of control key and
> letter to press to trigger the macro.  The macro can use a SendKeys to
> insert the desired text at the cursor position.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
>


From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Apr 14 14:38:55 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:38:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
References: <425EB3B6.3960.F9B1E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <00a201c54129$ce2f2d30$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello A.d. Teypal and Stuart,

thanks to you both for helping me out.
Again you saved me time.

Just out of interest, i solved this in another way,
but i have also codes in the same field like: 5.11.3.3 
How could i adjust the expression so that it can handle 
both types of codes at ones.

Pedro



----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] add a number in between


> On 13 Apr 2005 at 20:53, Pedro Janssen wrote:
>
> > fieldA                     fieldB
> > 6.10.3.3 0             16
> > 5.04.2.4 #0           8
> > as result i would like:
> > fieldC
> > 6.10.3.3.16 0
> > 5.04.2.4.8 #0
> >
>
> This should do it:
> fieldC: Left$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," ") -1) & "." & fieldB &
> Mid$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," "))
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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>
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Apr 14 14:53:04 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:53:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337505@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function: 

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String
 
  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)
  
  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp
  
End Function

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hey Jim,
Thanks again for the code it works just fine except for when I use it for my
actual project.
When using your code in a table in Word it retrieves the text of interest
okay, but also includes the search string.
After much testing I find this only happens in the table, which of course is
where I need to cull the data from.
I have looked at selection.movestart and some other Word functions to no
avail.
Would you have any ideas?

bob



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Here is some quick and dirty code that opens a Word doc from inside Access,
searches for the string "special code:" and sets a string variable equal to
the sentence that follows the code string. If your documents all have the
same string you can find that string and select words, sentences or
paragraphs that come after it. HTH
Jim Hale

Function LiftText()

Dim wd As Word.Application, strPhrase As String, strFindphrase As String
strFindphrase = "special code:"
Set wd = New Word.Application
wd.Documents.Open "C:\Test.doc"
wd.Visible = True
wd.Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
    With wd.Selection.Find
        .Text = strFindphrase
        .Replacement.Text = ""
        .Forward = True
        .Wrap = wdFindContinue
        .Format = False
        .MatchCase = False
        .MatchWholeWord = False
        .MatchWildcards = False
        .MatchSoundsLike = False
        .MatchAllWordForms = False
    End With
    wd.Selection.Find.Execute
    wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
    strPhrase = wd.Selection
    MsgBox "Look what I found: " & strPhrase
    wd.ActiveDocument.Close
    wd.Quit
    Set wd = Nothing
End Function

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.

thanks anyway.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr 14 15:33:56 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:33:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

AutoKeys should work in any version of Access, so I suspect you have a
wizard problem with the 2000 on the older machine.  That was a recurrent
problem in that version, as I recall.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box


Charlotte,

It's possible that my Access 2000 installation is a bit screwy. I tried
that AutoKeys thing in Access 2003 and it works as advertised. My new ^b
macro uses SendKeys to insert <b></b> at the cursor just fine.

However, on an older machine with Access 2000 installed, I set up the
same macro in AutoKeys, but when I press the key combo, a message
appears in the Access status bar: "Setting up wizards..." and a progress
bar appears next to it. A single block appears in the status bar and
nothing happens. If I then press ^b again, the status message and
progress bar disappears, but still no HTML codes. I think I'll see what
happens if I open this Access 2000 database in 2003 and do the macros
there.

Thanks, Charlotte.

On 4/14/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> I think what you're looking for is an autokeys macro.  You can find 
> info in Help using the AutoKeys search word.  The name of each autokey

> macro is a ^x syntax, which represents the combination of control key 
> and letter to press to trigger the macro.  The macro can use a 
> SendKeys to insert the desired text at the cursor position.
> 
> Charlotte Foust

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Scientific Marketing
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 15:49:12 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:49:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050414134931710c0b@mail.gmail.com>

Charlotte,

And now I've got it installed at my client's site and she says that
the macros don't do anything in her copy of Access 2000! Sheesh! Each
of my macros does SendKeys...and all it does is type in codes:

<b></b>

Works fine if I run the A2000 database (it's actually an ADP) in
Access 2003. I say again: Sheesh!

Steve Erbach

On 4/14/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> AutoKeys should work in any version of Access, so I suspect you have a
> wizard problem with the 2000 on the older machine.  That was a recurrent
> problem in that version, as I recall.
> 
> Charlotte Foust


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr 14 16:13:37 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:13:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Hmmn.  You failed to mention the ADP previously, and there are definite
differences between ADPs and MDBs.  I have no idea whether AutoKeys
works in ADPs or not, so in an ADP, I would probably opt for one of the
alternative approaches suggested.  

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box


Charlotte,

And now I've got it installed at my client's site and she says that the
macros don't do anything in her copy of Access 2000! Sheesh! Each of my
macros does SendKeys...and all it does is type in codes:

<b></b>

Works fine if I run the A2000 database (it's actually an ADP) in Access
2003. I say again: Sheesh!

Steve Erbach

On 4/14/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> AutoKeys should work in any version of Access, so I suspect you have a

> wizard problem with the 2000 on the older machine.  That was a 
> recurrent problem in that version, as I recall.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 16:45:35 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:45:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30504141445635fde1a@mail.gmail.com>

Charlotte,

Perhaps that's it, then, at least in Access 2000. OK, I'll try another way.

Steve Erbach

On 4/14/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> Hmmn.  You failed to mention the ADP previously, and there are definite
> differences between ADPs and MDBs.  I have no idea whether AutoKeys
> works in ADPs or not, so in an ADP, I would probably opt for one of the
> alternative approaches suggested.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
>


From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 16:48:45 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:48:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SQL to Change a field value based on an input
In-Reply-To: <OFD0FEC623.9F4836E2-ONCA256FE3.0019A2D4@agric.nsw.gov.au>
References: <OFD0FEC623.9F4836E2-ONCA256FE3.0019A2D4@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30504141448124186bf@mail.gmail.com>

Connie,

I don't suppose it's something mundane like the Status field being a
Text field instead of Numeric, is it?

Steve Erbach

On 4/13/05, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au
<connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I am trying to write a quick update which will change athe status field in
> my DB to 1, and the status date to today if a date criteris is met. here is
> my SQL
> 
> UPDATE tblDAuthorityRenewal SET tblDAuthorityRenewal.Status = 1,
> tblDAuthorityRenewal.StatusDate = Date()
> WHERE (((tblDAuthorityRenewal.EndDate)=#11/1/2003#));
> 
> except I am passing a parameter into the last bit (of course)
> 
> If I run this SQL either directkly or in my form the date changes to today
> but the status doesn't change ...
> 
> Yours in confusion
> Connie Kamrowski
> 
> Analyst/Programmer
> Information Technology
> NSW Department of Primary Industries
> Orange


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 14 17:03:15 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:03:15 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
In-Reply-To: <00a201c54129$ce2f2d30$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <425F7543.7953.303A8DC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Apr 2005 at 21:38, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Hello A.d. Teypal and Stuart,
> 
> thanks to you both for helping me out.
> Again you saved me time.
> 
> Just out of interest, i solved this in another way,
> but i have also codes in the same field like: 5.11.3.3 
> How could i adjust the expression so that it can handle 
> both types of codes at ones.
> 
IIf (Instr(fieldA)> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." & fieldB)

> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] add a number in between
> 
> 
> > On 13 Apr 2005 at 20:53, Pedro Janssen wrote:
> >
> > > fieldA                     fieldB
> > > 6.10.3.3 0             16
> > > 5.04.2.4 #0           8
> > > as result i would like:
> > > fieldC
> > > 6.10.3.3.16 0
> > > 5.04.2.4.8 #0
> > >
> >
> > This should do it:
> > fieldC: Left$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," ") -1) & "." & fieldB &
> > Mid$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," "))
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Stuart
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> 
> 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 14 20:46:29 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:46:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
	<39cb22f30504141445635fde1a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <425F1CF5.5000004@shaw.ca>

How are you obtaining your news, here is a way I display a raw rss xml 
news feed in Access via new IE window
You may want to grab my xsl file that does the xslt transform to html  
from website and place on disk.

Of course it is a lot flashier and easier to grab a news feed with a 
special rss news reader.
especially when you can drag and drop the feed to your reader via "XML" 
feed icon.
There are a lot out there like this open source one
http://www.rssreader.com/

Sub BBCRSSFeed()
Dim srcTree As Object
Dim xsltTree As Object
Dim strHTML As String
 Set srcTree = CreateObject("Msxml.DOMDocument")
        srcTree.async = False
        srcTree.Load 
("http://news.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_uk_edition/technology/rss091.xml")
 'srcTree.Load ("http://services.devx.com/outgoing/recentTipsFeed.xml")
 Set xsltTree = CreateObject("Msxml.DOMDOCUMENT")
        xsltTree.async = False
        'this xsl transform file can also be loaded via a local disk file
        xsltTree.Load ("http://www5.brinkster.com/mconnelly/newsfeed.xsl")

        strHTML = srcTree.transformNode(xsltTree)
        Debug.Print strHTML
        ' Display transformed xml rss news feed in html via IE 6.0 window
        testIE (strHTML)      
End Sub

Sub testIE(strpassHTML As String)
'------------------

Dim objExplorer As Object
Dim objDocument As Object
Dim strComputer As String

Dim strReturn As String

Set objExplorer = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application")

objExplorer.Navigate "about:blank"
objExplorer.Toolbar = 0
objExplorer.StatusBar = 0
objExplorer.Width = 800
objExplorer.Height = 570
objExplorer.Left = 0
objExplorer.Top = 0
objExplorer.Visible = 1
'dont't need to navigate to file or http site
'just drop html string in document object
'objExplorer.Navigate "http://checkip.dyndns.org/"
Do While (objExplorer.Busy)
Loop
Dim webtx As String
Dim strHTML As String
Set objDocument = objExplorer.Document
objDocument.Open
objDocument.Writeln "<html><head><title>My BBC Technology RSS 
Feed</title></head>"
objDocument.Writeln "<body bgcolor='red';" & _
    " {   background-attachment: fixed; background-position: 97% bottom; 
" & _
      "  background-image= 'url(logoBackGround.gif)';background-repeat: 
no-repeat;" & _
       " padding: 5px;font-family='Georgia';font-size: 80%;} >" 
     ' if no gif file it should execute okay.
objDocument.Writeln "<table width='100%'>"
objDocument.Writeln "<tr>"
objDocument.Writeln "<td width='20%'><b>BBC Feed</b></td>"
objDocument.Writeln "</tr>"
objDocument.Writeln "</table>"
objDocument.Writeln strpassHTML
objDocument.Writeln "</body></html>"
objDocument.Close
'MsgBox "finished"
Set objExplorer = Nothing
Set objDocument = Nothing
End Sub


Steve Erbach wrote:

>Charlotte,
>
>Perhaps that's it, then, at least in Access 2000. OK, I'll try another way.
>
>Steve Erbach
>
>On 4/14/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hmmn.  You failed to mention the ADP previously, and there are definite
>>differences between ADPs and MDBs.  I have no idea whether AutoKeys
>>works in ADPs or not, so in an ADP, I would probably opt for one of the
>>alternative approaches suggested.
>>
>>Charlotte Foust
>>
>>    
>>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 14 22:57:28 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:57:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Jet 4.0 dll warning from e week   x posted
Message-ID: <005e01c5416f$3e5b3ff0$6501a8c0@laptop1>

 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 15 01:04:09 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:04:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <01ec01c5404f$9fab12b0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <0IEZ0090K4XJG2@l-daemon>

Hi Rocky:

I have now managed to get a combination of code to work in FireFox. Test it
out and if it is still not working get back to me.

Thanks
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again

Bryan:

DBA site - the go button didn't go.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>> Dear List:
>>
>> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the VBA

>> code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago 
>> which I implemented on my old machine.
>>
>> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where 
>> to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.
>
> Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?
>
> Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html
>
> It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution
>
> -- 
> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
> Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
> shouting "What a great ride!"
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 15 01:24:38 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:24:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <026401c5410d$72177f50$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>
Message-ID: <0IEZ00D6C5VRD7@l-daemon>

Hi Ken:

Hopefully, that the DBA site is no longer using iframes, search engines will
be able to get a better view of the contents which should give us better
exposure. If you have some good suggestions on how the pages should have
their meta tags, for example, set up, please send along the details and I
would be more than happy to test it out.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ken Ismert
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:17 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


I was welcomed in to the list on October 15, 2003. I heard about the group
at least a year earlier, and tried to join, but the DatabaseAdvisors site
was damnibly hard to find using a Google search, and I gave up. Out of
curiosity, I've just tried searching again, with better success. However, it
is still unclear from the DatabaseAdvisors results that it is indeed the
AccessD group. Fortunately, other sites now do a much better job of equating
the two in their links, so you can find the real site with a little extra
clicking. I would suggest revisiting the site from a Web Search perspective,
and revising your page titles and introductory pages, to drive home that
DatabaseAdvisors really is AccessD.

-Ken


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From pennwhite at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 15 06:59:26 2005
From: pennwhite at hotmail.com (Penn White)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:59:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FYI - Protecting Command Bars
Message-ID: <BAY23-DAV16DEBBDC14D999AC3AB377BD360@phx.gbl>

FYI - This article was mentioned in the Access Advisor newsletter and I 
thought it was pretty cool.

http://advisorupdate.info/Articles.nsf/nl/16406

Penn 


From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Fri Apr 15 07:36:06 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:06:06 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access report
References: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNEEKADHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net> 
	<018901c54055$7d9f0ae0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <004501c541b7$e7c5d5d0$a81865cb@winxp>

Rocky,

    You don't have to print the report twice. On clicking the command button, the sequence of commands given below, should get you the desired results.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

Code in click event of command button
==================================
    DoCmd.OpenReport RepName, acViewPreview
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdFitToWindow
    ' Allow time to stabilise
    P_WaitShort 300 
    ' Navigate to last page (in print preview)    
    SendKeys "^{DOWN}", True
    DoCmd.PrintOut                                      ' (A)
'    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPrint       ' (B)
'    Note - For direct print, use (A). Otherwise,
'                (B) for invoking the Print dialog box
==================================

Subroutine for time delay
==================================
Sub P_WaitShort(ByVal Tmr As Long)
    Dim Cnt As Long
    
    For Cnt = 1 To Tmr
        DoEvents
    Next
End Sub
==================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 23:50
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access report


  Jim:

  Thank you.  That looks promising.  However, it says:

  " When you preview the report, page through all of the pages of the report 
  to make sure that the Print event is triggered for all records. "

  which is not practical.  That's OK if I'm running it myself but not for an 
  end user.

  And I don't want to print it twice.  The page number is tracked in a counter 
  that gets incremented in the page footer event.  So until the report is 
  printed once there's no way to know what page a given record is on.

  Is there a way to print without actually printing?

  Thanks and regards,

  Rocky Smolin
  Beach Access Software
  http://www.e-z-mrp.com
  858-259-4334

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at earthlink.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:06 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access 
  report


  > Rocky,
  >
  >  You need to force 2 pass mode, then save the descriptions and pages to a
  > table on the first pass.  See the following MSKB article:
  >
  > ACC2000: How to Create a Table of Contents or Index for a Report
  > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=210269
  >
  > Jim.
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
  > Beach Access Software
  > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:55 PM
  > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  > Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access
  > report
  >
  >
  > Dear List:
  >
  > I would like to insert a table of contents into a rather lengthy report
  > which can vary in its content.
  >
  > The content is actually printed in two subreports.
  >
  > Is there some way to know what page a detail record is on so that a table 
  > of
  > contents could be generated and inserted into a report.
  >
  > MTIA
  >
  > Rocky Smolin
  > Beach Access Software
  > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
  > 858-259-4334



From marcus at tsstech.com  Fri Apr 15 10:36:00 2005
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:36:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D01D9C91F@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

Shouldn't that be...

IIf (Instr(fieldA," ")> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." &
fieldB)

In-stead-of...

IIf (Instr(fieldA)> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." & fieldB)

Scott Marcus
TSS Technologies, Inc.
marcus at tsstech.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] add a number in between

On 14 Apr 2005 at 21:38, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Hello A.d. Teypal and Stuart,
> 
> thanks to you both for helping me out.
> Again you saved me time.
> 
> Just out of interest, i solved this in another way,
> but i have also codes in the same field like: 5.11.3.3 
> How could i adjust the expression so that it can handle 
> both types of codes at ones.
> 
IIf (Instr(fieldA)> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." & fieldB)

> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] add a number in between
> 
> 
> > On 13 Apr 2005 at 20:53, Pedro Janssen wrote:
> >
> > > fieldA                     fieldB
> > > 6.10.3.3 0             16
> > > 5.04.2.4 #0           8
> > > as result i would like:
> > > fieldC
> > > 6.10.3.3.16 0
> > > 5.04.2.4.8 #0
> > >
> >
> > This should do it:
> > fieldC: Left$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," ") -1) & "." & fieldB &
> > Mid$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," "))
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Stuart
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> 
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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Fri Apr 15 10:47:43 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:47:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
Message-ID: <200504151548.j3FFm1i29595@databaseadvisors.com>

Hey lIsters,
My first post with my new address and I think it's easy, I just have to
get up to speed.  I have a report that does a sum([ErrorAmount]) at the
footer.  ErrorAmount is in the detail line, however there are duplicates
which are incorrectly being added to the sum([ErrorAmount]).  Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Randy.


From bgoss711 at ameritech.net  Fri Apr 15 11:39:26 2005
From: bgoss711 at ameritech.net (Bud Goss)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:39:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X Posted
Message-ID: <20050415163926.17765.qmail@web81309.mail.yahoo.com>


Greetings from a long time ACCESSD lurker

 

I have used the HIT Software Inc with Access 97 databases to establish links to our AS400 tables for quite a while.

 

When I attempt to use this software with an Access 2003 database to establish an ODBC link to our AS400 ( for many - not all -  tables ) the system will not create an ODBC link.

 

The message I get is Index already exists. Pressing Help gives the message "Index already exists. (Error 3284)" You cannot have two indexes with the same name in a table. Rename one of the indexes. 

 

But I can take the same table and establish an ODBC link with an Access 97 database.

 

I have attempted to do this on several Access 2003 databases ( Including a new totaly empty Access 2003 database) and have the same problem.

 

I have sent HIT Software trace files for this situation.They have not yet been able to determine the cause of this anomoly.

 

I suspect that the problem is in Access 2003 rather than with anything in our AS400.

 

Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, do you have a solution.



From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 15 11:54:17 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:54:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC04F3C4@dewey.Symphony.local>
References: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC04F3C4@dewey.Symphony.local>
Message-ID: <5f2de2420504150954512ebf20@mail.gmail.com>

My subbing address has changed at least three times over the years. 
It would take quite alot of digging to figure out exactly when I first
arrived, but I know it was during the "Memphis Technology" era.  IIRC
a seasoned poster from that time period that didn't make the list
below was Charles Wortz.


Mark Mitsules



On 4/7/05, Steve Capistrant <scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com> wrote:
> December 1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby,
> Jurgen Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among
> others.
> 
> Steve Capistrant
> scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
> Symphony Information Services
> 7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
> Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
> 763-391-7400
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Apr 15 12:09:21 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:09:21 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
In-Reply-To: <200504151548.j3FFm1i29595@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <004201c541dd$ddb52020$a0150c54@minster33c3r25>

Randy
I'd guess that the sum is only summing what's there, so are you saying you
want duplicates suppressing from the report entirely, and thus from the
totals? Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear in the
detail but not be totalled?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Randall R Anthony
> Sent: 15 April 2005 16:48
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
> 
> 
> Hey lIsters,
> My first post with my new address and I think it's easy, I 
> just have to get up to speed.  I have a report that does a 
> sum([ErrorAmount]) at the footer.  ErrorAmount is in the 
> detail line, however there are duplicates which are 
> incorrectly being added to the sum([ErrorAmount]).  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy.
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> 



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Apr 15 12:16:04 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:16:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X Posted
In-Reply-To: <31725533.1113584032634.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAyawgXk2D4kyh/JLl934OTQEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Bud,

You didn't say if you actually have more than one index in the tables.  To
find out first put the table in Design view.  Then open the Index dialog box
by pushing the 'lightening bolt' button.  You can delete indexes from here.

To stop this from happening go to Tools|Options and click the Tables tab.
You'll see a field called AutoIndex on Import/Create.  Clear everything out
of this field.  If something in this field partially matches a name that
you've given to a field, then you'll automatically get an index on that
field.  Check Help to get the whole story. 

If you manually created an index for the same field, then you may have two
indexes with the same name.

Perhaps A97 did not have this AutoIndex feature.

HTH!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bud Goss
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X Posted


Greetings from a long time ACCESSD lurker

 

I have used the HIT Software Inc with Access 97 databases to establish links
to our AS400 tables for quite a while.

 

When I attempt to use this software with an Access 2003 database to
establish an ODBC link to our AS400 ( for many - not all -  tables ) the
system will not create an ODBC link.

 

The message I get is Index already exists. Pressing Help gives the message
"Index already exists. (Error 3284)" You cannot have two indexes with the
same name in a table. Rename one of the indexes. 

 

But I can take the same table and establish an ODBC link with an Access 97
database.

 

I have attempted to do this on several Access 2003 databases ( Including a
new totaly empty Access 2003 database) and have the same problem.

 

I have sent HIT Software trace files for this situation.They have not yet
been able to determine the cause of this anomoly.

 

I suspect that the problem is in Access 2003 rather than with anything in
our AS400.

 

Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, do you have a solution.

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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Fri Apr 15 12:17:42 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:17:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
Message-ID: <200504151717.j3FHHri16735@databaseadvisors.com>

<<Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear in the
detail but not be totalled?>>
Exactly.  Because of the way the report is setup, I need to show the
dupes because a remark column shows different meanings, but the
ErrorAmount field is the same, and I only want a sum total of all the
first instances of the ErrorAmount.

>>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 4/15/2005 1:09:21 PM >>>
Randy
I'd guess that the sum is only summing what's there, so are you saying
you
want duplicates suppressing from the report entirely, and thus from
the
totals? Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear in
the
detail but not be totalled?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Randall R Anthony
> Sent: 15 April 2005 16:48
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
> 
> 
> Hey lIsters,
> My first post with my new address and I think it's easy, I 
> just have to get up to speed.  I have a report that does a 
> sum([ErrorAmount]) at the footer.  ErrorAmount is in the 
> detail line, however there are duplicates which are 
> incorrectly being added to the sum([ErrorAmount]).  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy.
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Apr 15 12:23:02 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:23:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F6CD@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Create another grouping for the unique value; then show the detail.  Sum
up only the unique value and blow off the detail. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R
Anthony
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 1:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates

<<Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear in the detail
but not be totalled?>> Exactly.  Because of the way the report is setup,
I need to show the dupes because a remark column shows different
meanings, but the ErrorAmount field is the same, and I only want a sum
total of all the first instances of the ErrorAmount.

>>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 4/15/2005 1:09:21 PM >>>
Randy
I'd guess that the sum is only summing what's there, so are you saying
you want duplicates suppressing from the report entirely, and thus from
the totals? Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear in
the detail but not be totalled?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R 
> Anthony
> Sent: 15 April 2005 16:48
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
> 
> 
> Hey lIsters,
> My first post with my new address and I think it's easy, I just have 
> to get up to speed.  I have a report that does a
> sum([ErrorAmount]) at the footer.  ErrorAmount is in the detail line, 
> however there are duplicates which are incorrectly being added to the 
> sum([ErrorAmount]).  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy.
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Apr 15 12:33:31 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:33:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA3bBp+saefUSwBbDX0qYxvwEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will have
users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option of
creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE.  However,
is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar to
MSDE / SQL Server.

 

Thanks!

Dan Waters

 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 15 12:44:33 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:44:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
Message-ID: <s26019ba.033@cactus.dk>

Hi Dan

At OTN, Oracle Technology Network, you can download every piece of
current Oracle software:

  http://www.oracle.com/technology/index.html 

Requires free registration and all software is full and unlimited.
Be prepared for some huge downloads.

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 04/15 7:33 pm >>>
I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will
have
users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option
of
creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE. 
However,
is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar
to
MSDE / SQL Server.



From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Apr 15 12:49:35 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:49:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA3bBp+saefUSwBbDX0qYxvwEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA3bBp+saefUSwBbDX0qYxvwEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c49505041510493e35ea71@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/lite/index.html

Have a look at Oracle 9i Lite, looks to ba available for download here.

There is also 10g Lite which is the latest and greatest version. 

On 4/15/05, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
> I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will have
> users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option of
> creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE.  However,
> is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar to
> MSDE / SQL Server.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dan Waters
> 
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Apr 15 12:54:45 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:54:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
In-Reply-To: <aea6c49505041510493e35ea71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA3bBp+saefUSwBbDX0qYxvwEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
	<aea6c49505041510493e35ea71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950504151054590483c8@mail.gmail.com>

I guess that lite version is for Mobile applications. Full version of
10G is available here
http://www.oracle.com/database/Standard_Edition.html


On 4/15/05, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/lite/index.html
> 
> Have a look at Oracle 9i Lite, looks to ba available for download here.
> 
> There is also 10g Lite which is the latest and greatest version.
> 
> On 4/15/05, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
> > I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will have
> > users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option of
> > creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE.  However,
> > is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar to
> > MSDE / SQL Server.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Dan Waters
> >
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> >
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> 


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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Fri Apr 15 13:19:52 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:19:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
Message-ID: <200504151820.j3FIK8i30889@databaseadvisors.com>

I tried that, because the ErrorAmount is listed first in descending
order, and the claimid is listed second with grouping, this suggestion
did not resolve the problem.

>>> cyx5 at cdc.gov 4/15/2005 1:23:02 PM >>>
Create another grouping for the unique value; then show the detail. 
Sum
up only the unique value and blow off the detail. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R
Anthony
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 1:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates

<<Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear in the
detail
but not be totalled?>> Exactly.  Because of the way the report is
setup,
I need to show the dupes because a remark column shows different
meanings, but the ErrorAmount field is the same, and I only want a sum
total of all the first instances of the ErrorAmount.

>>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 4/15/2005 1:09:21 PM >>>
Randy
I'd guess that the sum is only summing what's there, so are you saying
you want duplicates suppressing from the report entirely, and thus
from
the totals? Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear
in
the detail but not be totalled?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R

> Anthony
> Sent: 15 April 2005 16:48
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
> 
> 
> Hey lIsters,
> My first post with my new address and I think it's easy, I just have

> to get up to speed.  I have a report that does a
> sum([ErrorAmount]) at the footer.  ErrorAmount is in the detail line,

> however there are duplicates which are incorrectly being added to the

> sum([ErrorAmount]).  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy.
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From Dave.Bucher at state.mn.us  Fri Apr 15 13:34:45 2005
From: Dave.Bucher at state.mn.us (Bucher, Dave)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:34:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (Admin Sparky)
Message-ID: <DFE71DA828F48342A3AC388F6681D0D83E8316@DHS10081.mn-dhse.co.dhs>

Was lucky to find this list back in July, 2001, and I rarely miss
reading and learning from it. Thanks so much to all the very smart and
talented people who are regular contributors and dedicate so much time
to helping others. I'll never be the super wiz' that so many of you are,
but many think I am one around this shop, so I don't tell them that I'm
just "good enough, for gov't work."  :)

Dave Bucher
Information Technology Specialist
Children's Research, Planning and Evaluation
Minnesota Department of Human Services



From bgoss711 at ameritech.net  Fri Apr 15 13:58:25 2005
From: bgoss711 at ameritech.net (Bud Goss)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:58:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X Posted
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050415185825.39431.qmail@web81304.mail.yahoo.com>

Do not really understand the first paragraph of your e-mail.
 
 How can I put the table in design view when I am failing to establish the link to the table in the first place?
 
I attempted the solution discussed in your second paragraph. 
 
Went to Tools / Options and cleared out the text box called AutoIndex on Import / Create.

I attempted to establish an ODBC to the AS400 to one of my problem tables.
 
Still had the same error message saying Index already exists. Re-booted my PC and tried again. Still no joy.
 
Appreciate your reply.

Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
Bud,

You didn't say if you actually have more than one index in the tables. To
find out first put the table in Design view. Then open the Index dialog box
by pushing the 'lightening bolt' button. You can delete indexes from here.

To stop this from happening go to Tools|Options and click the Tables tab.
You'll see a field called AutoIndex on Import/Create. Clear everything out
of this field. If something in this field partially matches a name that
you've given to a field, then you'll automatically get an index on that
field. Check Help to get the whole story. 

If you manually created an index for the same field, then you may have two
indexes with the same name.

Perhaps A97 did not have this AutoIndex feature.

HTH!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bud Goss
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X Posted


Greetings from a long time ACCESSD lurker



I have used the HIT Software Inc with Access 97 databases to establish links
to our AS400 tables for quite a while.



When I attempt to use this software with an Access 2003 database to
establish an ODBC link to our AS400 ( for many - not all - tables ) the
system will not create an ODBC link.



The message I get is Index already exists. Pressing Help gives the message
"Index already exists. (Error 3284)" You cannot have two indexes with the
same name in a table. Rename one of the indexes. 



But I can take the same table and establish an ODBC link with an Access 97
database.



I have attempted to do this on several Access 2003 databases ( Including a
new totaly empty Access 2003 database) and have the same problem.



I have sent HIT Software trace files for this situation.They have not yet
been able to determine the cause of this anomoly.



I suspect that the problem is in Access 2003 rather than with anything in
our AS400.



Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, do you have a solution.

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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Fri Apr 15 14:31:37 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:31:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
Message-ID: <200504151932.j3FJW1i14633@databaseadvisors.com>

Resolved, with code.  Rather than sum the erroramount, I created a field
in the groupheader_format that takes the first instance of each.  Then I
add it to an unbound field in the footer.  Works like a champ.

>>> RRANTHON at sentara.com 4/15/2005 2:19:52 PM >>>
I tried that, because the ErrorAmount is listed first in descending
order, and the claimid is listed second with grouping, this suggestion
did not resolve the problem.

>>> cyx5 at cdc.gov 4/15/2005 1:23:02 PM >>>
Create another grouping for the unique value; then show the detail. 
Sum
up only the unique value and blow off the detail. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R
Anthony
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 1:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates

<<Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear in the
detail
but not be totalled?>> Exactly.  Because of the way the report is
setup,
I need to show the dupes because a remark column shows different
meanings, but the ErrorAmount field is the same, and I only want a sum
total of all the first instances of the ErrorAmount.

>>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 4/15/2005 1:09:21 PM >>>
Randy
I'd guess that the sum is only summing what's there, so are you saying
you want duplicates suppressing from the report entirely, and thus
from
the totals? Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear
in
the detail but not be totalled?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R

> Anthony
> Sent: 15 April 2005 16:48
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
> 
> 
> Hey lIsters,
> My first post with my new address and I think it's easy, I just have

> to get up to speed.  I have a report that does a
> sum([ErrorAmount]) at the footer.  ErrorAmount is in the detail
line,

> however there are duplicates which are incorrectly being added to
the

> sum([ErrorAmount]).  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy.
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From pharold at proftesting.com  Fri Apr 15 14:59:05 2005
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:59:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X Posted
In-Reply-To: <20050415163926.17765.qmail@web81309.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005301c541f5$945ddee0$192da8c0@D58BT131Perry>

Do you perhaps have an index set to something generic like Name (rather than
FullName, CustName, EmpName, eg).  If so you might have to make the
connection with A97 and rename the index to a more specific index.  Then
A2003 might allow you to make the connection.  Name, etc have become
reserved terms in many instances and may cause conflicts with indexes in
newer versions.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bud Goss
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 12:39 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X Posted



Greetings from a long time ACCESSD lurker

 

I have used the HIT Software Inc with Access 97 databases to establish links
to our AS400 tables for quite a while.

 

When I attempt to use this software with an Access 2003 database to
establish an ODBC link to our AS400 ( for many - not all -  tables ) the
system will not create an ODBC link.

 

The message I get is Index already exists. Pressing Help gives the message
"Index already exists. (Error 3284)" You cannot have two indexes with the
same name in a table. Rename one of the indexes. 

 

But I can take the same table and establish an ODBC link with an Access 97
database.

 

I have attempted to do this on several Access 2003 databases ( Including a
new totaly empty Access 2003 database) and have the same problem.

 

I have sent HIT Software trace files for this situation.They have not yet
been able to determine the cause of this anomoly.

 

I suspect that the problem is in Access 2003 rather than with anything in
our AS400.

 

Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, do you have a solution.

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From bgoss711 at ameritech.net  Fri Apr 15 16:18:48 2005
From: bgoss711 at ameritech.net (Bud Goss)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:18:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X posted
Message-ID: <20050415211848.96167.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com>


Since the original post, I have additional information. Our corporate staff sent me the ?I Series?  (an IBM product) software.

 

I installed this software on my PC, and set up an ?I Series? ODBC link in an Access 2003 database.

 

I still have the same problem. 

 

The same tables that can not be linked in an Access 2003 database  with HIT software in an Access 2003 database also can not be linked using the ?I Series? ODBC product. 

 

These same tables can be linked within an Access 97 database using either product.

 

This is more evidence that the problem is related to something in Access 2003 rather than in the ODBC software.

 

Also, per Perry Harold?s suggestion I checked one of the problem tables and could not find any inappropriate generic names used in any fields indexed or not.



From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Fri Apr 15 16:52:06 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:52:06 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337505@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKGEMHCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

yes in a table cell.
again your code is working super.
but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
if you have thought, I would welcome it.


again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
in a table cell.

thanks for the great help.

bob


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function:

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String

  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)

  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp

End Function

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hey Jim,
Thanks again for the code it works just fine except for when I use it for my
actual project.
When using your code in a table in Word it retrieves the text of interest
okay, but also includes the search string.
After much testing I find this only happens in the table, which of course is
where I need to cull the data from.
I have looked at selection.movestart and some other Word functions to no
avail.
Would you have any ideas?

bob



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Here is some quick and dirty code that opens a Word doc from inside Access,
searches for the string "special code:" and sets a string variable equal to
the sentence that follows the code string. If your documents all have the
same string you can find that string and select words, sentences or
paragraphs that come after it. HTH
Jim Hale

Function LiftText()

Dim wd As Word.Application, strPhrase As String, strFindphrase As String
strFindphrase = "special code:"
Set wd = New Word.Application
wd.Documents.Open "C:\Test.doc"
wd.Visible = True
wd.Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
    With wd.Selection.Find
        .Text = strFindphrase
        .Replacement.Text = ""
        .Forward = True
        .Wrap = wdFindContinue
        .Format = False
        .MatchCase = False
        .MatchWholeWord = False
        .MatchWildcards = False
        .MatchSoundsLike = False
        .MatchAllWordForms = False
    End With
    wd.Selection.Find.Execute
    wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
    strPhrase = wd.Selection
    MsgBox "Look what I found: " & strPhrase
    wd.ActiveDocument.Close
    wd.Quit
    Set wd = Nothing
End Function

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.

thanks anyway.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Apr 15 17:18:20 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:18:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233750D@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
of which should do the trick.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


yes in a table cell.
again your code is working super.
but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
if you have thought, I would welcome it.


again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
in a table cell.

thanks for the great help.

bob


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function:

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String

  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)

  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp

End Function

Jim Hale


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From erbachs at gmail.com  Fri Apr 15 17:50:02 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:50:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <425F1CF5.5000004@shaw.ca>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
	<39cb22f30504141445635fde1a@mail.gmail.com> <425F1CF5.5000004@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30504151550316741e1@mail.gmail.com>

Marty,

Nifty! However, the "news" that my client is entering is simply little
announcements about her business: seminars coming up, quotes for the
day, new service offerings, etc.

Steve Erbach

On 4/14/05, MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca> wrote:
> How are you obtaining your news, here is a way I display a raw rss xml
> news feed in Access via new IE window
> You may want to grab my xsl file that does the xslt transform to html
> from website and place on disk.
> 
> Of course it is a lot flashier and easier to grab a news feed with a
> special rss news reader.
> especially when you can drag and drop the feed to your reader via "XML"
> feed icon.
> There are a lot out there like this open source one
> http://www.rssreader.com/


From Jeff at outbaktech.com  Fri Apr 15 17:56:09 2005
From: Jeff at outbaktech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:56:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
Message-ID: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D014B09@belgarion.Outbak.local>

OK, I solved the first issue (see below).  The problem was that I was
sending the * with double quotes, AND appending leading and following
"s.

New Issue, is it possible to send TWO criteria in a Parameter?

Example:

Parameter01 ("ValueA" Or "ValueB")



 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Brett
Barabash
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query

Jeff,

If you use a Like operator instead of an equals sign in your WHERE
clause, you can pass in an asterisk to select all.
For example:

SELECT Employee.FirstName, Employee.LastName
FROM Employee
WHERE Employee.LastName Like [MyNameParameter];

To get a specific employee, you would pass in "Smith", "Jones", etc.  If
you pass "*" as the parameter instead, it will return all records.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:31 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query


Hello Group!!!
 
I am at a client site and I am having a brain dead moment here.
 
I have a form where the user selects the parameters for a report
(query).  I send the Parameter to the query to populate the report.
Here is the problem, what do I send as the parameter if the user wants
to select 'ALL' of the possible values for the Parameter.  I know that I
have seen or done this before, but I can not think of how I did this.
 
Please Help!!
 
TIA
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr 15 18:09:37 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:09:37 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
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On 15 Apr 2005 at 11:36, Scott Marcus wrote:

> Shouldn't that be...
> 
> IIf (Instr(fieldA," ")> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." &
> fieldB)
> 
> In-stead-of...
> 
> IIf (Instr(fieldA)> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." & fieldB)
> 

Yes :-(


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Stuart




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Apr 16 01:46:36 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 07:46:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
In-Reply-To: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D014B09@belgarion.Outbak.local>
Message-ID: <000d01c54250$0aaacdb0$7f400c54@minster33c3r25>

No but nothing stopping you having two parameters in the query, ie WHERE x =
[P1] OR x = [P2]

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jeff Barrows
> Sent: 15 April 2005 23:56
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
> 
> 
> OK, I solved the first issue (see below).  The problem was 
> that I was sending the * with double quotes, AND appending 
> leading and following "s.
> 
> New Issue, is it possible to send TWO criteria in a Parameter?
> 
> Example:
> 
> Parameter01 ("ValueA" Or "ValueB")
> 
> 
> 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Brett Barabash
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:06 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> If you use a Like operator instead of an equals sign in your 
> WHERE clause, you can pass in an asterisk to select all. For example:
> 
> SELECT Employee.FirstName, Employee.LastName
> FROM Employee
> WHERE Employee.LastName Like [MyNameParameter];
> 
> To get a specific employee, you would pass in "Smith", 
> "Jones", etc.  If you pass "*" as the parameter instead, it 
> will return all records.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:31 AM
> To: AccessD
> Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
> 
> 
> Hello Group!!!
>  
> I am at a client site and I am having a brain dead moment here.
>  
> I have a form where the user selects the parameters for a 
> report (query).  I send the Parameter to the query to 
> populate the report. Here is the problem, what do I send as 
> the parameter if the user wants to select 'ALL' of the 
> possible values for the Parameter.  I know that I have seen 
> or done this before, but I can not think of how I did this.
>  
> Please Help!!
>  
> TIA
>  
> Jeff Barrows
> MCP, MCAD, MCSD
>  
> Outbak Technologies, LLC
> Racine, WI
> jeff at outbaktech.com
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Apr 16 08:51:37 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:51:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
References: <0IEZ0090K4XJG2@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <009501c5428b$691be3d0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Jim:

The search on the archive page 
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com/archive/archive.htm) doesn't work.  But the 
link  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo  works and from there I 
can get to the archives at http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> Hi Rocky:
>
> I have now managed to get a combination of code to work in FireFox. Test 
> it
> out and if it is still not working get back to me.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:39 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
> Bryan:
>
> DBA site - the go button didn't go.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
>
>> On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
>> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the 
>>> VBA
>
>>> code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago
>>> which I implemented on my old machine.
>>>
>>> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where
>>> to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.
>>
>> Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?
>>
>> Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html
>>
>> It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution
>>
>> -- 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Apr 16 08:52:39 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:52:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
References: <015301c53f76$b7c44030$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
	<00f801c540b3$3c82dce0$501865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <009e01c5428b$8dc8c680$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

A.D:

I'll bet that's it.  Thanks for the heads up.  There's probably a better way 
to filter the detail records on the fly.

Regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "A.D.Tejpal" <adtp at touchtelindia.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering


Rocky,

    Under certain situations, the following set of commands are known to 
disturb page numbering.
    MoveLayout
    NextRecord
    PrintSection
    ForceNewPage

    You have confirmed that ForceNewPage is not being used in your report. 
You might now like to scrutinize the other three, wherever occurring. (As a 
test, if you disable these commands, your page numbering should revert to 
normal).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 21:15
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering


  Charlotte:

  No page breaks.  Three sub-reports in the detail section.

  I have the following events :

  Private Sub Detail_Format
  Private Sub Detail_Print
  Private Sub GroupFooter0_Print
  Private Sub Report_NoData
  Private Sub Report_Open
  Private Sub ReportFooter_Format
  Private Sub ReportHeader_Format

  The format events mostly stick things into text boxes.  I do have :

      Me.MoveLayout = False
      Me.NextRecord = True
      Me.PrintSection = False
      Exit Sub

  in a couple of places which get triggered on certain conditions.

  Any clues there?

  Thanks and Regards,

  Rocky Smolin
  Beach Access Software
  http://www.e-z-mrp.com
  858-259-4334

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:25 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering


  > Does it actually print two pages or just one?  I have seen this, but it
  > has been caused by several different things, so you need to fill in the
  > blanks for us.  Do you have any physical page break in the report? Do
  > you have any formatting that breaks before or after a section?
  >
  > Charlotte Foust
  >
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
  > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:12 PM
  > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  > Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
  >
  >
  > Dear List:
  >
  > I have a one page report and at the bottom it prints Page 1 of 2.  I'm
  > using the standard ="Page " & [Page] & " of " & [Pages] to print the
  > page numbers which was actually generated by the Access report wiz.
  >
  > This has never failed before.
  >
  > Has anyone seen anything like this?
  >
  > MTIA
  >
  > Rocky Smolin
  > Beach Access Software
  > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
  > 858-259-4334
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Apr 16 12:36:07 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:36:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
In-Reply-To: <16691866.1113586798288.JavaMail.root@sniper23>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA4uu2ZzPX3kSdEndTeXHOSQEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Gary & Gustav,

Thanks for this info!  Yes - this is an over 600 Mb download!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 12:34 PM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?

I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will have
users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option of
creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE.  However,
is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar to
MSDE / SQL Server.

 

Thanks!

Dan Waters

 

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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sat Apr 16 22:12:24 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:12:24 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: SQL to Change a field value based on an input _
	Solved 
Message-ID: <OFC52365B4.ED63E6F9-ONCA256FE6.0011672D@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Ahhh Stuart it was our old friend the date format issue. I have re written
to change date to the correct format and enclose in ## (thanks to some code
Gustav supplied when I first came here and now it works fine ... I should
have thought of Date issues first I guess

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange


Message: 19
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:48:45 -0500
From: Steve Erbach <erbachs at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL to Change a field value based on an input
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
             <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30504141448124186bf at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Connie,

I don't suppose it's something mundane like the Status field being a
Text field instead of Numeric, is it?

Steve Erbach

On 4/13/05, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au
<connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am trying to write a quick update which will change athe status field
in
> my DB to 1, and the status date to today if a date criteris is met. here
is
> my SQL
>
> UPDATE tblDAuthorityRenewal SET tblDAuthorityRenewal.Status = 1,
> tblDAuthorityRenewal.StatusDate = Date()
> WHERE (((tblDAuthorityRenewal.EndDate)=#11/1/2003#));
>
> except I am passing a parameter into the last bit (of course)
>
> If I run this SQL either directkly or in my form the date changes to
today
> but the status doesn't change ...
>
> Yours in confusion
> Connie Kamrowski
>
> Analyst/Programmer
> Information Technology
> NSW Department of Primary Industries
> Orange


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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sat Apr 16 22:30:17 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:30:17 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] SQL to Change a field value based on an input
Message-ID: <OF261A19FF.93EAFBDA-ONCA256FE6.0013397E@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Ermm I meant Steve

Connie Kamrowski

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Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange


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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sat Apr 16 22:48:11 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:48:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] How to Question - check for duplicates in cascading combo
	boxes
Message-ID: <OFF770372D.3055498D-ONCA256FE6.00143D86@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Hello all

I have a cascading combo box which presents the user with firstly a list of
species on the left and then subsequently a list of sub species on the
right when a species is chosen.

I have to ensure that there are no duplicates of species in this list
unless they have a different sub species. I figured the best way to do this
will be to check for a duplicate species and if there is one then check for
duplicate sub species, if there is then alert the user and set focus to
this duplicate.

I am a little unsure as to the best way to go about this, as they will need
to have chosen a species and a sub species before I do the check should
this be called on the before update of the sub species column? if so there
will already be an entry for species so I will need to delete it as well? I
have attached the code for the combo boxes for the sake of clarifying how
the lists are populated.


Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange


<code> -----------------

Private Sub Species_AfterUpdate()

       Dim db As Database, rs As Recordset
       Dim strDefaultName As String
       Dim IntX As Integer

       If Not IsNull(Me!Species) Then
       IntSpecies = Me!Species

       End If

       Set db = CurrentDb()
       Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("SELECT
[tblCSubSpecies].[SubSpeciesID],[tblCSubSpecies].[SubSpecies],[tblCSubSpecies].[CommonName]"
 _
                              & "FROM [tblCSubSpecies] " _
                              & "WHERE [tblCSubSpecies].[SpeciesID]= " &
IntSpecies & ";")


       IntX = DCount("[SpeciesID]", "tblCSpecies", "[SpeciesID] = " &
IntSpecies & " ")

       Exit Sub

       If Not IsNull(Me.Species) Then
             IntSpecies = Me!Species
             Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = "SELECT DISTINCTROW
[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpecies]&'
('& [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
                                        & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect] " _
                                        & " WHERE
[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID] = " & IntSpecies & ";"
       Else
       End If

Exit_Species_AfterUpdate:
       On Error Resume Next
       If Not (rs Is Nothing) Then rs.Close: Set rs = Nothing
       On Error Resume Next
       If Not (db Is Nothing) Then Set db = Nothing

Exit Sub


End Sub
Private Sub cboSubSpeciesSource()
On Error GoTo Err_cboSubSpeciesSource

        If Not IsNull(Me!Species) Then
            IntSpecies = Me!Species
            Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = " SELECT DISTINCTROW
[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesName]&'
  ('& [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
                            & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect] " _
                            & " WHERE [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID] = "
& IntSpecies & ";"

        Else
        End If
Exit_cboSubSpeciesSource:
Exit Sub

Err_cboSubSpeciesSource:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in function
Form_sfrmLoad.SubSpeciesSource"
    Resume Exit_cboSubSpeciesSource
    End Select
    Resume 0    'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING

End Sub


Private Sub cboSubSpecies_GotFocus()
    If Not IsNull(Me!Species) Then

            IntSpecies = Me!Species
             Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = " SELECT DISTINCTROW
[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpecies]&'
('& [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
                            & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect] " _
                            & " WHERE [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID] = "
& IntSpecies & " ; "
        Else
        End If

        Me.cboSubSpecies.Dropdown
End Sub

Private Sub cboSubSpecies_LostFocus()

            Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = " SELECT
[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpecies]&'  ('&
[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
                            & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect]; "

End Sub

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 17 09:32:19 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:32:19 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How to Question - check for duplicates in cascading
	comboboxes
References: <OFF770372D.3055498D-ONCA256FE6.00143D86@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <003001c5435a$4339b460$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Connie:

When you say "species in this list unless they have a different sub species" 
do you really mean list or duplicate in the database?

When the user selects a species is the sub-species box requeried to present 
only those sub-species which are valid for the selected species?

You probably need to check for duplicates in the after update event of the 
sub-species combo box.  If a duplicate is found tell the user and either use 
Me.Undo to undo all the changes or blank out the species and sub-species 
combo boxes and set the focus to the species box.

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:48 PM
Subject: [AccessD] How to Question - check for duplicates in cascading 
comboboxes


>
> Hello all
>
> I have a cascading combo box which presents the user with firstly a list 
> of
> species on the left and then subsequently a list of sub species on the
> right when a species is chosen.
>
> I have to ensure that there are no duplicates of species in this list
> unless they have a different sub species. I figured the best way to do 
> this
> will be to check for a duplicate species and if there is one then check 
> for
> duplicate sub species, if there is then alert the user and set focus to
> this duplicate.
>
> I am a little unsure as to the best way to go about this, as they will 
> need
> to have chosen a species and a sub species before I do the check should
> this be called on the before update of the sub species column? if so there
> will already be an entry for species so I will need to delete it as well? 
> I
> have attached the code for the combo boxes for the sake of clarifying how
> the lists are populated.
>
>
> Connie Kamrowski
>
> Analyst/Programmer
> Information Technology
> NSW Department of Primary Industries
> Orange
>
>
> <code> -----------------
>
> Private Sub Species_AfterUpdate()
>
>       Dim db As Database, rs As Recordset
>       Dim strDefaultName As String
>       Dim IntX As Integer
>
>       If Not IsNull(Me!Species) Then
>       IntSpecies = Me!Species
>
>       End If
>
>       Set db = CurrentDb()
>       Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("SELECT
> [tblCSubSpecies].[SubSpeciesID],[tblCSubSpecies].[SubSpecies],[tblCSubSpecies].[CommonName]"
> _
>                              & "FROM [tblCSubSpecies] " _
>                              & "WHERE [tblCSubSpecies].[SpeciesID]= " &
> IntSpecies & ";")
>
>
>       IntX = DCount("[SpeciesID]", "tblCSpecies", "[SpeciesID] = " &
> IntSpecies & " ")
>
>       Exit Sub
>
>       If Not IsNull(Me.Species) Then
>             IntSpecies = Me!Species
>             Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = "SELECT DISTINCTROW
> [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpecies]&'
> ('& [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
>                                        & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect] " _
>                                        & " WHERE
> [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID] = " & IntSpecies & ";"
>       Else
>       End If
>
> Exit_Species_AfterUpdate:
>       On Error Resume Next
>       If Not (rs Is Nothing) Then rs.Close: Set rs = Nothing
>       On Error Resume Next
>       If Not (db Is Nothing) Then Set db = Nothing
>
> Exit Sub
>
>
> End Sub
> Private Sub cboSubSpeciesSource()
> On Error GoTo Err_cboSubSpeciesSource
>
>        If Not IsNull(Me!Species) Then
>            IntSpecies = Me!Species
>            Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = " SELECT DISTINCTROW
> [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesName]&'
>  ('& [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
>                            & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect] " _
>                            & " WHERE [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID] = "
> & IntSpecies & ";"
>
>        Else
>        End If
> Exit_cboSubSpeciesSource:
> Exit Sub
>
> Err_cboSubSpeciesSource:
>    Select Case Err
>    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
>        Resume Next
>    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
>        Beep
>        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in function
> Form_sfrmLoad.SubSpeciesSource"
>    Resume Exit_cboSubSpeciesSource
>    End Select
>    Resume 0    'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
>
> End Sub
>
>
> Private Sub cboSubSpecies_GotFocus()
>    If Not IsNull(Me!Species) Then
>
>            IntSpecies = Me!Species
>             Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = " SELECT DISTINCTROW
> [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpecies]&'
> ('& [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
>                            & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect] " _
>                            & " WHERE [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID] = "
> & IntSpecies & " ; "
>        Else
>        End If
>
>        Me.cboSubSpecies.Dropdown
> End Sub
>
> Private Sub cboSubSpecies_LostFocus()
>
>            Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = " SELECT
> [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpecies]&' 
> ('&
> [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
>                            & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect]; "
>
> End Sub
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 17 09:56:29 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:56:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA3bBp+saefUSwBbDX0qYxvwEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <0IF30090QIU5N8@l-daemon>

Hi Dan:

You can download a fully operation personal copy of Oracle (a number of
different version are available) and can use that to play with.

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:34 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?

I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will have
users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option of
creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE.  However,
is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar to
MSDE / SQL Server.

 

Thanks!

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 17 09:56:01 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:56:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA4uu2ZzPX3kSdEndTeXHOSQEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <42627901.4020700@shaw.ca>

Just an additional question there are 4 ODBC and OLEDB Providers, from 
Oracle and MS
anyone got a suggestion which is best for an Access FE connection.

Dan Waters wrote:

>Gary & Gustav,
>
>Thanks for this info!  Yes - this is an over 600 Mb download!
>
>Dan Waters
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 12:34 PM
>To: Database Advisors
>Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
>
>I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will have
>users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option of
>creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE.  However,
>is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar to
>MSDE / SQL Server.
>
> 
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dan Waters
>
> 
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 17 10:04:31 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:04:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <009501c5428b$691be3d0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <0IF300E06J7J5P@l-daemon>

Hi Rocky:

Which browser are you having problems with? I have tested it on both MSE and
FireFox and it works as intended. Please clear out the cache on your
computer, as it may be using the initial page and try again.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 6:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again

Jim:

The search on the archive page 
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com/archive/archive.htm) doesn't work.  But the

link  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo  works and from there I 
can get to the archives at http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> Hi Rocky:
>
> I have now managed to get a combination of code to work in FireFox. Test 
> it
> out and if it is still not working get back to me.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:39 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
> Bryan:
>
> DBA site - the go button didn't go.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
>
>> On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
>> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the 
>>> VBA
>
>>> code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago
>>> which I implemented on my old machine.
>>>
>>> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where
>>> to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.
>>
>> Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?
>>
>> Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html
>>
>> It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution
>>
>> -- 
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>> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
>> shouting "What a great ride!"
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 17 10:28:28 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:28:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How to Question - check for duplicates in cascading
	comboboxes
In-Reply-To: <OFF770372D.3055498D-ONCA256FE6.00143D86@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <20050417152832.NOTE2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Won't adding DISTINCT do the trick? Or is there more to the problem?

Susan H. 


Hello all


I have to ensure that there are no duplicates of species in this list unless
they have a different sub species. I figured the best way to do this will be
to check for a duplicate species and if there is one then check for
duplicate sub species, if there is then alert the user and set focus to this
duplicate.



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 17 13:42:58 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:42:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Info Printing various files from Shell command
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA863129BE@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <4262AE32.6010507@shaw.ca>

I came across this site when I was looking for a method to print tiff 
files from Access.
This is a list of print association methods and their calls that can be 
used from Shell
to print on your default printer like fdf pdf txt psd png etc.
These guys produce a good batch print scheduler.

http://www.traction-software.co.uk/batchprint/associations.htm

For example to print a list of tiff files.

Sub testprinttiff()
Dim filepath As String
filepath = "C:\Temp\VS.tif"
Shell ("C:\Program Files\IrfanView\I_VIEW32.EXE " & filepath & " /print")
End Sub

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 17 15:38:38 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:38:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] about certification
Message-ID: <20050417203840.NRGU2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/offers/2ndshot/
 
=======I know we've discussed the benefits of certification a few times --
here's an interesting offer straight from MS -- if you take and fail a
certification exam before May 31, you can retake it free -- but only if you
register first. 
 
Read through the offer, but didn't see any obvious gotcha's. 
 
Susan H. 


From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sun Apr 17 17:41:04 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:41:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] How to Question - check for duplicates in cascading
	comboboxes
Message-ID: <OF82B8828B.10028005-ONCA256FE6.007C19E4@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Sorry Guys

Further clarification

Yep its a no duplicates on the database record ie. they can have duplicate
of species but only with different subspecies.

So if I have chosen a morelia spilota as the species and verigata as a sub
species I can chose morelia spilota again but only with a different sub
species say imbracata, or no sub species at all.

So when the user chooses morelia spilota I firstly need to check if it is
already in the database as a species for this record, then if it is then
check if it contains a sub species. Then if the user chooses a sub species
I need to check if the sub species is the same as the one already chosen.

Does that make it any clearer or have a confused it more?


Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange



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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Apr 17 19:35:17 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:35:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNKEOEDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
References: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNKEOEDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <426300C5.9040305@rogers.com>

I second that emotion! I'm currently doing a thing called JUMP, which is 
a program to teach mathematically challenged kids to do expert math. The 
program works. Autistic kids remain a challenge, but short of that I can 
now teach a 7-year-old to pass a grade-11 math exam in two months. The 
program is fabulous. I don't get paid a cent for my time, but seeing 
kids suddenly understand is the greatest reward I've ever experienced.

I did the typical silly "one-sided-piece-of-paper" thing for a group of 
girls about 8-10 years old the other day. (If you don't know what that 
means, take a slice about an inch wide from a newspaper page, fold it 
once and tape the ends together.) The proof that this piece of paper now 
has only one side is demonstrated as follows.

Take the loop and place a pen on its girth. Have a student slide the 
loop under the pen. Eventually your pen-mark will arrive at its origin. 
Therefore the piece of paper has only one side.

Then it gets interesting, and you should have seen the looks of 
question, awe and inspiration on the girls' faces. Cut the loop 
lengthwise and what do you get? Cut it again lengthwise and what do you 
get? Invite them to anticipate the result before we actually make the 
cut. Then we verify the various conjectures.

I don't get a penny for this, but I've had more fun doing this since 
playing soccer in Grade six, when I scored three goals in one game.

Jim Dettman wrote:

>Dian,
>
><< I do volunteer work to help women in a
>shelter prepare for a better life, I'm helping a friend write a curriculum
>to teach kids how to use the MS Office (including Access) suite...and I
>maintain my 'baby dbs'...when someone asks for help.>>
>
>  Sounds like your being "brilliant" to me.  I believe that the noblest
>pursuit in life is to help others without real benefit to yourself.
>
>Jim.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dian
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:30 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
>
>
>Wow....what am I doing now...in this group, feel like I should come up with
>something brilliant...but, I can't. I do volunteer work to help women in a
>shelter prepare for a better life, I'm helping a friend write a curriculum
>to teach kids how to use the MS Office (including Access) suite...and I
>maintain my 'baby dbs'...when someone asks for help. I am retired and a bit
>lazy...I basically do what I want to do. Oh, and reading the messages in
>here is the first thing I do when I have a chance...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:57 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
>
>Wow...thank you. ;)
>
>What are you doing right now -- Access-wise.
>
>Susan H.
>
>Susan, thank you...but, you had no way of knowing...and your books (several
>of them, actually) have helped me survive all the worst of it. I'm a major
>fan. Thank you again...
>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 17 19:53:30 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:53:30 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <426300C5.9040305@rogers.com>
References: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNKEOEDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <426391AA.19131.EC98850@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 17 Apr 2005 at 20:35, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I second that emotion! I'm currently doing a thing called JUMP, which is 
> a program to teach mathematically challenged kids to do expert math. The 
> program works. Autistic kids remain a challenge, but short of that I can 
> now teach a 7-year-old to pass a grade-11 math exam in two months. The 
> program is fabulous. I don't get paid a cent for my time, but seeing 
> kids suddenly understand is the greatest reward I've ever experienced.
> 
> I did the typical silly "one-sided-piece-of-paper" thing for a group of 
> girls about 8-10 years old the other day. (If you don't know what that 
> means, take a slice about an inch wide from a newspaper page, fold it 
> once and tape the ends together.) 

aka a Moebius strip, named after a 19th century mathematician and 
astronomer.

>  Cut the loop 
> lengthwise and what do you get? Cut it again lengthwise and what do you get?

Paradromic rings :-)






-- 
Stuart




From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr 17 21:50:32 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:50:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A9013CF087@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

<big big Grin>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Saturday, 9 April 2005 3:41 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?

I haven't yet.... <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Yea but we've forgiven him  ;-)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: 08 April 2005 17:10
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> Which reminds me, just as an FYI to the list, the archives I'm hosting

> have not been updated since October, roughly around the time since I 
> was hit by that drunk driver.  We were in the middle of moving to 
> Active Directory, and we demoted our Exchange Server from being a 
> Domain Controller.
> Since then, the original 'archive' code I wrote hasn't been working.  
> I'm finishing up a little pet project at the moment, when that's done,

> I'm going to modify the archive code to let it catch up and start 
> updating again.
> 
> Drew
> 
> P.S.--  It was Darren Dick who dragged me to this list, by the way! 
> <grin>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> :o)
> 
> I had been archiving all emails until Drew offered to develop a 
> searchable web interface and requested old archives. I contacted him 
> and sent him everything I had. After that I gave up my whole archiving

> habits and depended on Drew's!
> 
> Gladly too. Using Outlook I had just released a huge pile of hard 
> drive space! (Which back then was a little more valuable.)
> 
> Now, every now and then I go through the topics and try to catch up 
> and then I delete everything 3 months or older.
> :o)
> 
> I really can't remember exactly when I got on the list but I think it 
> was 1999. There haven't been any names mentioned that I don't remember

> seeing on the list except Dev Ashish. I don't think he ever posted 
> anything here since I've been on but I could certainly be mistaken.
> 
> 
> John B.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Erwin Craps - IT Helps
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:51 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
> I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not 
> archived the E-mails, probably a year or so.
> 
> I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived 
> E-mails? I now have 111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
> :-)
> 
> Erwin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> John W. Colby
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: 
> [AccessD] OT: FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at 
> Rockie's house in Del Mar, CA.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kathryn Bassett
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] 
> OT: Finally MadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> 
> Mark A Matte asked:
> > This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
> > all list members...It would be interesting to see how long 
> people have
> 
> > actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
> > 1999.
> 
> John W. Colby:
> > I found the list in July of 1997.
> 
> Kathryn Bassett:
> I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.
> 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 17 23:25:16 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:25:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
References: <0IF300E06J7J5P@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <012801c543ce$9f919790$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Jim:

Cache?  Oh. Yeah.  Cache. (D'oh!)

OK!  Working now (just hit the reload button).  I'm on Firefox.

Thanks.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 8:04 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> Hi Rocky:
>
> Which browser are you having problems with? I have tested it on both MSE 
> and
> FireFox and it works as intended. Please clear out the cache on your
> computer, as it may be using the initial page and try again.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 6:52 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
> Jim:
>
> The search on the archive page
> (http://www.databaseadvisors.com/archive/archive.htm) doesn't work.  But 
> the
>
> link  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo  works and from there I
> can get to the archives at http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
>
>> Hi Rocky:
>>
>> I have now managed to get a combination of code to work in FireFox. Test
>> it
>> out and if it is still not working get back to me.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
>> Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:39 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>>
>> Bryan:
>>
>> DBA site - the go button didn't go.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at gmail.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
>>> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> Dear List:
>>>>
>>>> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the
>>>> VBA
>>
>>>> code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time 
>>>> ago
>>>> which I implemented on my old machine.
>>>>
>>>> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where
>>>> to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.
>>>
>>> Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?
>>>
>>> Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html
>>>
>>> It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
>>> Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
>>> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
>>> shouting "What a great ride!"
>>> -- 
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>>>
>>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 17 23:29:29 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:29:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How to Question - check for duplicates in
	cascadingcomboboxes
References: <OF82B8828B.10028005-ONCA256FE6.007C19E4@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <013301c543cf$3648d040$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Connie:

Sounds like you've actually got it figured out.  I'd use the After Update 
event of the sub-species combo box to see if they're trying to create a 
record that already exists.  I'd open the recordset with the 
species/sub-species fields and use .FindFirst.  Then use .NoMatch to see if 
it found a match.  If .NoMatch is false that means it found a match so you 
want to display a message and then I think Me.Undo will get rid of the 
duplicate record, but that would have to be tested.

You can also test for the duplicate with DCount but domain functions are 
pretty slow if the table is big or it's over a network.

HTH,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 3:41 PM
Subject: [AccessD] How to Question - check for duplicates in 
cascadingcomboboxes


>
> Sorry Guys
>
> Further clarification
>
> Yep its a no duplicates on the database record ie. they can have duplicate
> of species but only with different subspecies.
>
> So if I have chosen a morelia spilota as the species and verigata as a sub
> species I can chose morelia spilota again but only with a different sub
> species say imbracata, or no sub species at all.
>
> So when the user chooses morelia spilota I firstly need to check if it is
> already in the database as a species for this record, then if it is then
> check if it contains a sub species. Then if the user chooses a sub species
> I need to check if the sub species is the same as the one already chosen.
>
> Does that make it any clearer or have a confused it more?
>
>
> Connie Kamrowski
>
> Analyst/Programmer
> Information Technology
> NSW Department of Primary Industries
> Orange
>
>
>
> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain
> confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient or 
> received
> it in error, please delete the message and notify sender. Views expressed
> are those of the individual sender and are not necessarily the views of
> their organisation.
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 17 23:36:22 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:36:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
Message-ID: <014a01c543d0$2c4b2d30$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

Is there a difference in how the On Click event works for a command button versus a label in Access 2003.

I had a form that was working with command buttons.  But the gray command buttons are ugly.  So I substituted a label and put the code from the command button behind the label.  

When you click this button (or label) it opens another form, makes the calling for invisible until the called form closes:

            DoCmd.OpenForm "frmActivitiesInBed"
            Me.Visible = False
            Do While SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm, "frmActivitiesInBed") <> 0
               DoEvents
            Loop

This works real well when in a command button On Click but when it's called in a label's On Click, the system totally hangs with 100% CPU usage.  

Another curious symptom: If I alt-Tab away from the app window while it's froze, and back again, it unfreezes the app.  

Does this sound familiar to anybody?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 18 00:41:24 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:41:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
In-Reply-To: <42627901.4020700@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0IF400GH4NSYFU@l-daemon>

Hi Marty:

The connection string I use is:

    gstrConnection = "Provider=msdaora;" & _
                        "Data Source=MyDatabase;" & _
                        "User Id=" & myUsername & ";" & _
                        "Password=" & myPassword 

It works fine for 8 and 9i

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 7:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?

Just an additional question there are 4 ODBC and OLEDB Providers, from 
Oracle and MS
anyone got a suggestion which is best for an Access FE connection.

Dan Waters wrote:

>Gary & Gustav,
>
>Thanks for this info!  Yes - this is an over 600 Mb download!
>
>Dan Waters
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 12:34 PM
>To: Database Advisors
>Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
>
>I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will have
>users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option of
>creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE.  However,
>is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar to
>MSDE / SQL Server.
>
> 
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dan Waters
>
> 
>
>  
>

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 18 00:46:38 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:46:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <0IF300E06J7J5P@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <0IF400G6VO1OBH@l-daemon>

Hi Rocky:

The code has been fixed. I was using FireFox version .8 and the code worked
fine. It was not until I updated to version 1.0 that things fell apart.
Bryan had done some research and came up the answer. From now on when using
javascript the code, in FireFox, must be written out in full. It is more
correct but I wish something had been posted on their site to that effect.

Anyway it now works.... so check it out.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 8:05 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again

Hi Rocky:

Which browser are you having problems with? I have tested it on both MSE and
FireFox and it works as intended. Please clear out the cache on your
computer, as it may be using the initial page and try again.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 6:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again

Jim:

The search on the archive page 
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com/archive/archive.htm) doesn't work.  But the

link  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo  works and from there I 
can get to the archives at http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> Hi Rocky:
>
> I have now managed to get a combination of code to work in FireFox. Test 
> it
> out and if it is still not working get back to me.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:39 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
> Bryan:
>
> DBA site - the go button didn't go.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
>
>> On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
>> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the 
>>> VBA
>
>>> code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago
>>> which I implemented on my old machine.
>>>
>>> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where
>>> to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.
>>
>> Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?
>>
>> Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html
>>
>> It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution
>>
>> -- 
>> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
>> Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
>> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
>> shouting "What a great ride!"
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>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr 18 01:28:53 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:28:53 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Size of an Email String
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A9013CF219@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hello all
I am building a string of email addresses to include in the BCC field of
an outlook email message

I have discovered if I have about 400 recipients then the email ends up
in my drafts folder ready to go
With a big long BCC string - So far so good - The string length of all
the emails is about 6000 characters ~+or-
When there is approx 400 Email addresses

But as soon as I get above that (Say 500 or even 1,100 email addresses)
the email does not appear in the drafts folder
The string length with 1100 email addresses is about 24,000 characters
~+or-

I am thinking there is some limit to the number of characters in
Outlook's BCC field 
Does anyone know about this?
Or can anyone point me in the direction of an answer?

Many thanks

Darren


From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr 18 01:35:35 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:35:35 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] FW: A2003:Size of an Email String SOLVED
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A9013CF226@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hello all
Never mind
Found the answer at...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;149217

See ya

DD



-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Dick 
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2005 4:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: A2003:Size of an Email String

Hello all
I am building a string of email addresses to include in the BCC field of
an outlook email message

I have discovered if I have about 400 recipients then the email ends up
in my drafts folder ready to go With a big long BCC string - So far so
good - The string length of all the emails is about 6000 characters
~+or- When there is approx 400 Email addresses

But as soon as I get above that (Say 500 or even 1,100 email addresses)
the email does not appear in the drafts folder The string length with
1100 email addresses is about 24,000 characters ~+or-

I am thinking there is some limit to the number of characters in
Outlook's BCC field Does anyone know about this?
Or can anyone point me in the direction of an answer?

Many thanks

Darren


From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr 18 01:44:30 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:44:30 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Linking to a Microsoft Access Table to create a
	Dist. List in Outlook - Bit OT
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A9013CF231@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Cross Posted to Sue and Dmitry's list

Hello all
I have a temp table in Microsoft Access that gets cleared and
re-populated with email addresses based on my End-Users selections.

What I want to know is - Is it possible for me to create a Distribution
list, call it...MSAccessEmailAddresses, that is linked to this
particular temp table in a particular MS AccessdB?

If it is possible can you please point me to whare I have to go or what
I have to do?

Many thanks in advance

Darren


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Apr 18 03:42:55 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:42:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] FW: A2003:Size of an Email String SOLVED
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A38@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Please note that the SMTP server that you will use will probably deny
that quantity of adresses in 1 mail.

It really depends on who manages your SMTP server, some limit to 50
adresses some 999.

Please check with your company IT manager if you have your own SMTP
server or with your internet provider if one used from the ISP.

Erwin

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] FW: A2003:Size of an Email String SOLVED

Hello all
Never mind
Found the answer at...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;149217

See ya

DD



-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Dick
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2005 4:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: A2003:Size of an Email String

Hello all
I am building a string of email addresses to include in the BCC field of
an outlook email message

I have discovered if I have about 400 recipients then the email ends up
in my drafts folder ready to go With a big long BCC string - So far so
good - The string length of all the emails is about 6000 characters
~+or- When there is approx 400 Email addresses

But as soon as I get above that (Say 500 or even 1,100 email addresses)
the email does not appear in the drafts folder The string length with
1100 email addresses is about 24,000 characters ~+or-

I am thinking there is some limit to the number of characters in
Outlook's BCC field Does anyone know about this?
Or can anyone point me in the direction of an answer?

Many thanks

Darren
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Apr 18 05:53:41 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:53:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Size of an Email String
In-Reply-To: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A9013CF219@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <42641E55.28077.10EF02B2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 18 Apr 2005 at 16:28, Darren Dick wrote:

> 
> I have discovered if I have about 400 recipients then the email ends up
> in my drafts folder ready to go
> With a big long BCC string - So far so good - The string length of all
> the emails is about 6000 characters ~+or-
> When there is approx 400 Email addresses
> 
> But as soon as I get above that (Say 500 or even 1,100 email addresses)
> the email does not appear in the drafts folder

 Note that RFC 2821 only requires a server to accept 100 recipients.  If 
your list is greater than that, it is quite possible that only the first 
100 will be accepted/delivered by your mail server. Some ISPs are also 
imposing limits below this, in contravention of the RFC, to try to control 
spam runs.

You have a couple of options, one is to send the email with only 100 
recipients each time (a so called "fan-out"). The other is to build your 
messages and send them one at a time by shelling out to a command line 
mailer such as Blat.  I've got a couple of Access apps that use Blat to 
send out 2-3000 emails.

If you want more info on using Blat with Access, contact me off-list.





-- 
Stuart




From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Apr 18 10:08:38 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:08:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233750D@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKKEJECJAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Thanks Jim
I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
documents.
it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.

your help was fantastic.

bob



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
of which should do the trick.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


yes in a table cell.
again your code is working super.
but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
if you have thought, I would welcome it.


again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
in a table cell.

thanks for the great help.

bob


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function:

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String

  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)

  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp

End Function

Jim Hale


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 18 10:42:54 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:42:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I've never found that to be true, Rocky, and I have used labels as light
weight "buttons" in several recent versions of Access.  What does the
declaration for the procedure look like?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:36 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;


Dear List:

Is there a difference in how the On Click event works for a command
button versus a label in Access 2003.

I had a form that was working with command buttons.  But the gray
command buttons are ugly.  So I substituted a label and put the code
from the command button behind the label.  

When you click this button (or label) it opens another form, makes the
calling for invisible until the called form closes:

            DoCmd.OpenForm "frmActivitiesInBed"
            Me.Visible = False
            Do While SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm,
"frmActivitiesInBed") <> 0
               DoEvents
            Loop

This works real well when in a command button On Click but when it's
called in a label's On Click, the system totally hangs with 100% CPU
usage.  

Another curious symptom: If I alt-Tab away from the app window while
it's froze, and back again, it unfreezes the app.  

Does this sound familiar to anybody?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 18 10:49:11 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:49:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3A8@main2.marlow.com>

I might eventually......

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Dick [mailto:D.Dick at uws.edu.au]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:51 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


<big DEFANGED_big DEFANGED_Grin>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Saturday, 9 April 2005 3:41 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?

I haven't yet.... <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Yea but we've forgiven him  ;-)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: 08 April 2005 17:10
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> Which reminds me, just as an FYI to the list, the archives I'm hosting

> have not been updated since October, roughly around the time since I 
> was hit by that drunk driver.  We were in the middle of moving to 
> Active Directory, and we demoted our Exchange Server from being a 
> Domain Controller.
> Since then, the original 'archive' code I wrote hasn't been working.  
> I'm finishing up a little pet project at the moment, when that's done,

> I'm going to modify the archive code to let it catch up and start 
> updating again.
> 
> Drew
> 
> P.S.--  It was Darren Dick who dragged me to this list, by the way! 
> <grin>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> :o)
> 
> I had been archiving all emails until Drew offered to develop a 
> searchable web interface and requested old archives. I contacted him 
> and sent him everything I had. After that I gave up my whole archiving

> habits and depended on Drew's!
> 
> Gladly too. Using Outlook I had just released a huge pile of hard 
> drive space! (Which back then was a little more valuable.)
> 
> Now, every now and then I go through the topics and try to catch up 
> and then I delete everything 3 months or older.
> :o)
> 
> I really can't remember exactly when I got on the list but I think it 
> was 1999. There haven't been any names mentioned that I don't remember

> seeing on the list except Dev Ashish. I don't think he ever posted 
> anything here since I've been on but I could certainly be mistaken.
> 
> 
> John B.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Erwin Craps - IT Helps
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:51 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
> I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not 
> archived the E-mails, probably a year or so.
> 
> I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived 
> E-mails? I now have 111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
> :-)
> 
> Erwin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> John W. Colby
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: 
> [AccessD] OT: FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at 
> Rockie's house in Del Mar, CA.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kathryn Bassett
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] 
> OT: Finally MadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> 
> Mark A Matte asked:
> > This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
> > all list members...It would be interesting to see how long 
> people have
> 
> > actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
> > 1999.
> 
> John W. Colby:
> > I found the list in July of 1997.
> 
> Kathryn Bassett:
> I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.
> 
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Apr 18 10:53:35 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:53:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337511@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Whatever it takes to get the job done! Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Thanks Jim
I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
documents.
it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.

your help was fantastic.

bob



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
of which should do the trick.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


yes in a table cell.
again your code is working super.
but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
if you have thought, I would welcome it.


again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
in a table cell.

thanks for the great help.

bob


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function:

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String

  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)

  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp

End Function

Jim Hale


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Apr 18 11:08:49 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:08:49 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
Message-ID: <20050418160846.52C542559C4@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Afternoon all, how's things?

Can someone help dense old me? I can't figure out how to do this.

I have 3 tables, structure of each is Code1, Code2, Qty (I'm simplifying).
Example data:

tbl1
----
A    B  36
A    B  45
B    B  21
B    C  22

tbl2
-----
A    A  9
B    B  12

tbl3
----
A    B  7
B    D  3

What I want as output is the total qty for each unique pair of Code1 and
Code2, ie

A    A  9
A    B  88
B    B  33
B    C  22
B    D  3

I started by writing a query for each table to sum qty by Code1 and Code2
then began to do a UNION query and stopped there cos I can't see how I sum
or Group across the 3 original queries in my UNION query. So I must have
started wrong but I've got a senior moment or something cos I can't see it.

Can someone please help me out?

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr 18 11:09:41 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:09:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398F@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <00de01c54431$076f5430$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Charlotte:

It's just: Private Sub cmdContinue_Click()

in that procedure there's a call to:

' get next question
    strNext = GetNextQuestion

and those lines of code appear in the GetNextQuestion function.

Normally GetNextQuestion returns the next question in the assessment, but 
there are several charts in the assessment - dieases, sleeping pills, 
medications, relaxations techniques, activities in bed, etc. - which contain 
a bunch of check boxes.

When they are loaded, instead of closing the main assessment form, I just 
make it invisible and use that SysCmd function to know when the chart form 
closes.

Do you think using the IsLoaded property of the AllForms collection might 
make a difference?  Shouldn't but who knows.  After all, it's Access.

TIA

Rocky



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;


> I've never found that to be true, Rocky, and I have used labels as light
> weight "buttons" in several recent versions of Access.  What does the
> declaration for the procedure look like?
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:36 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Is there a difference in how the On Click event works for a command
> button versus a label in Access 2003.
>
> I had a form that was working with command buttons.  But the gray
> command buttons are ugly.  So I substituted a label and put the code
> from the command button behind the label.
>
> When you click this button (or label) it opens another form, makes the
> calling for invisible until the called form closes:
>
>            DoCmd.OpenForm "frmActivitiesInBed"
>            Me.Visible = False
>            Do While SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm,
> "frmActivitiesInBed") <> 0
>               DoEvents
>            Loop
>
> This works real well when in a command button On Click but when it's
> called in a label's On Click, the system totally hangs with 100% CPU
> usage.
>
> Another curious symptom: If I alt-Tab away from the app window while
> it's froze, and back again, it unfreezes the app.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anybody?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr 18 12:00:01 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:00:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Current number of locks
Message-ID: <010001c54438$0fba4490$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

Is there a way to display the current number of locks being used out of the total Max Locks per file?

MTIA,

is


From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 18 13:06:02 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:06:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
Message-ID: <200504181805.j3II5si29604@databaseadvisors.com>

I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.

 

Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of any
reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year

 

Thanks

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 



From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Mon Apr 18 13:52:40 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:22:40 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
References: <20050418160846.52C542559C4@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <017701c54447$e2226980$5b1865cb@winxp>

Andy,

    Totals query named Q_Andy2, given below, should get you the desired result. It uses union query named Q_Andy1 as its source.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

Q_Andy2 (Final Query - Totals Query)
==================================
SELECT [Code1] & [Code2] AS Code, Sum(Q_Andy1.Qty) AS SumOfQty
FROM Q_Andy1
GROUP BY [Code1] & [Code2];
==================================

Q_Andy1 (Preliminary Query - Union type)
==================================
Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy1 
Union ALL 
Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy2 
UNION ALL 
Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy3;
==================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andy Lacey 
  To: Dba 
  Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 21:38
  Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this


  Afternoon all, how's things?

  Can someone help dense old me? I can't figure out how to do this.

  I have 3 tables, structure of each is Code1, Code2, Qty (I'm simplifying).
  Example data:

  tbl1
  ----
  A    B  36
  A    B  45
  B    B  21
  B    C  22

  tbl2
  -----
  A    A  9
  B    B  12

  tbl3
  ----
  A    B  7
  B    D  3

  What I want as output is the total qty for each unique pair of Code1 and Code2, ie

  A    A  9
  A    B  88
  B    B  33
  B    C  22
  B    D  3

  I started by writing a query for each table to sum qty by Code1 and Code2 then began to do a UNION query and stopped there cos I can't see how I sum or Group across the 3 original queries in my UNION query. So I must have started wrong but I've got a senior moment or something cos I can't see it.

  Can someone please help me out?

  --
  Andy Lacey
  http://www.minstersystems.co.uk


From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Apr 18 13:23:19 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:23:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
References: <4260D651.6368.41DC2A2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <002501c54449$b5475720$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello Stuart and Scott,

thanks for the help.
The sql does what i need.

Pedro



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From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:09 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] add a number in between


> On 15 Apr 2005 at 11:36, Scott Marcus wrote:
>
> > Shouldn't that be...
> >
> > IIf (Instr(fieldA," ")> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." &
> > fieldB)
> >
> > In-stead-of...
> >
> > IIf (Instr(fieldA)> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." & fieldB)
> >
>
> Yes :-(
>
>
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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Apr 18 14:05:10 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:05:10 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
Message-ID: <002601c54449$b5cc65a0$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

i have a backend database that has a linked table from another database, that is made by a firm (No adjustments can be made in the original table).

How can i change the tables name, the name of the ID field and the datatype in number in the linked table.

Pedro Janssen


From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 18 14:14:42 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:14:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
In-Reply-To: <200504181805.j3II5si29604@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNKEOPDIAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Joe,

  It depends if you use your connection a lot.  DSL performance is about
half that of cable in general.  It is also dependent on your distance from
the phone company's POP (Point of Presence).

  If that's not a major issue for you, then save some money.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.



Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of any
reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year



Thanks



Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g



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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Mon Apr 18 14:20:55 2005
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:20:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Linking SQL Server to Acrobat
Message-ID: <000a01c5444b$c241df20$0b08a845@hargrove.internal>

We have some templates we use in our Graphics Department.  Right now, the
job information is manually entered by the detailer but we would like to
automate this process.  Has anyone done this before?  Any hints, pitfalls,
or black holes we need to watch out for?

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com





From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Mon Apr 18 14:35:59 2005
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:35:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
In-Reply-To: <200504181805.j3II5si29604@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <002801c5444d$d9ac1070$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

I have had verizon DSL for both home, and my business for the past 3 years.
So far I have been pretty satisfied.

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.

 

Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of any
reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year

 

Thanks

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 18 14:44:43 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:44:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
In-Reply-To: <002801c5444d$d9ac1070$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNOEPCDIAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>


  I had Verizon DSL first, then went to cable.  Took forever to get it in
(almost 4 months).  Service was fairly stable, but slow.  I was only 3,000
feet from the POP and yet could never seem to get more then 2mb/sec download
speed.  Switched to cable and jumped to 3mb/sec and now recently, my cable
company is pushing towards 5mb/sec.  Took less then 2 weeks to get it from
the first phone call.

  Verizon though is in the process of putting fibre into the houses in my
area, so I may be switching back.....

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


I have had verizon DSL for both home, and my business for the past 3 years.
So far I have been pretty satisfied.

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.



Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of any
reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year



Thanks



Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 18 15:01:34 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:01:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873993@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can't.  Design changes can only be made in the table itself, which
means the original table.  The linked table is just an aliased pointer
to the original.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:05 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


Hello Group,

i have a backend database that has a linked table from another database,
that is made by a firm (No adjustments can be made in the original
table).

How can i change the tables name, the name of the ID field and the
datatype in number in the linked table.

Pedro Janssen
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 18 15:07:41 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:07:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873994@infoserver01.infostat.local>

So is that the routine behind a button or a label?  I have to say that I
wouldn't do it the way you appear to be attempting with either.  You
don't need a DoEvents loop if you open the other form using automation
and sink its Close event on the calling form.   DoEvents is sometimes
necessary, but I avoid it whenever possible, since it also can cause
hangups.  Simply put any code to be run after the other form closes in
the event sink on the calling form.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;


Charlotte:

It's just: Private Sub cmdContinue_Click()

in that procedure there's a call to:

' get next question
    strNext = GetNextQuestion

and those lines of code appear in the GetNextQuestion function.

Normally GetNextQuestion returns the next question in the assessment,
but 
there are several charts in the assessment - dieases, sleeping pills, 
medications, relaxations techniques, activities in bed, etc. - which
contain 
a bunch of check boxes.

When they are loaded, instead of closing the main assessment form, I
just 
make it invisible and use that SysCmd function to know when the chart
form 
closes.

Do you think using the IsLoaded property of the AllForms collection
might 
make a difference?  Shouldn't but who knows.  After all, it's Access.

TIA

Rocky



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;


> I've never found that to be true, Rocky, and I have used labels as 
> light weight "buttons" in several recent versions of Access.  What 
> does the declaration for the procedure look like?
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:36 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Is there a difference in how the On Click event works for a command 
> button versus a label in Access 2003.
>
> I had a form that was working with command buttons.  But the gray 
> command buttons are ugly.  So I substituted a label and put the code 
> from the command button behind the label.
>
> When you click this button (or label) it opens another form, makes the

> calling for invisible until the called form closes:
>
>            DoCmd.OpenForm "frmActivitiesInBed"
>            Me.Visible = False
>            Do While SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm,
> "frmActivitiesInBed") <> 0
>               DoEvents
>            Loop
>
> This works real well when in a command button On Click but when it's 
> called in a label's On Click, the system totally hangs with 100% CPU 
> usage.
>
> Another curious symptom: If I alt-Tab away from the app window while 
> it's froze, and back again, it unfreezes the app.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anybody?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Mon Apr 18 15:09:53 2005
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:09:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
In-Reply-To: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNOEPCDIAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002b01c54452$9a304970$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Well...it is a loooooonnnnnnggggggg story (which I won't go into)...but I am
boycotting Comcast Cable (the only cable company in this area.)  I won't use
them....EVER!!!!  So...I have satellite television...and verizon
telephone/DSL.  NOW...verizon has come close to being boycotted in the past,
as well....but....they are still currently on the ok list.  :)

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted



  I had Verizon DSL first, then went to cable.  Took forever to get it in
(almost 4 months).  Service was fairly stable, but slow.  I was only 3,000
feet from the POP and yet could never seem to get more then 2mb/sec download
speed.  Switched to cable and jumped to 3mb/sec and now recently, my cable
company is pushing towards 5mb/sec.  Took less then 2 weeks to get it from
the first phone call.

  Verizon though is in the process of putting fibre into the houses in my
area, so I may be switching back.....

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


I have had verizon DSL for both home, and my business for the past 3 years.
So far I have been pretty satisfied.

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.



Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of any
reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year



Thanks



Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr 18 15:30:08 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:30:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873994@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <01c401c54455$69d0aec0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

"open the other form using automation and sink its Close event on the 
calling form"

Como?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;


> So is that the routine behind a button or a label?  I have to say that I
> wouldn't do it the way you appear to be attempting with either.  You
> don't need a DoEvents loop if you open the other form using automation
> and sink its Close event on the calling form.   DoEvents is sometimes
> necessary, but I avoid it whenever possible, since it also can cause
> hangups.  Simply put any code to be run after the other form closes in
> the event sink on the calling form.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:10 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>
>
> Charlotte:
>
> It's just: Private Sub cmdContinue_Click()
>
> in that procedure there's a call to:
>
> ' get next question
>    strNext = GetNextQuestion
>
> and those lines of code appear in the GetNextQuestion function.
>
> Normally GetNextQuestion returns the next question in the assessment,
> but
> there are several charts in the assessment - dieases, sleeping pills,
> medications, relaxations techniques, activities in bed, etc. - which
> contain
> a bunch of check boxes.
>
> When they are loaded, instead of closing the main assessment form, I
> just
> make it invisible and use that SysCmd function to know when the chart
> form
> closes.
>
> Do you think using the IsLoaded property of the AllForms collection
> might
> make a difference?  Shouldn't but who knows.  After all, it's Access.
>
> TIA
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:42 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>
>
>> I've never found that to be true, Rocky, and I have used labels as
>> light weight "buttons" in several recent versions of Access.  What
>> does the declaration for the procedure look like?
>>
>> Charlotte Foust
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:36 PM
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>>
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> Is there a difference in how the On Click event works for a command
>> button versus a label in Access 2003.
>>
>> I had a form that was working with command buttons.  But the gray
>> command buttons are ugly.  So I substituted a label and put the code
>> from the command button behind the label.
>>
>> When you click this button (or label) it opens another form, makes the
>
>> calling for invisible until the called form closes:
>>
>>            DoCmd.OpenForm "frmActivitiesInBed"
>>            Me.Visible = False
>>            Do While SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm,
>> "frmActivitiesInBed") <> 0
>>               DoEvents
>>            Loop
>>
>> This works real well when in a command button On Click but when it's
>> called in a label's On Click, the system totally hangs with 100% CPU
>> usage.
>>
>> Another curious symptom: If I alt-Tab away from the app window while
>> it's froze, and back again, it unfreezes the app.
>>
>> Does this sound familiar to anybody?
>>
>> MTIA,
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>> 858-259-4334
>> --
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>
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From bgeldart at verizon.net  Mon Apr 18 15:32:10 2005
From: bgeldart at verizon.net (Bob Geldart)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:32:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
In-Reply-To: <200504181805.j3II5si29604@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200504181805.j3II5si29604@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050418161217.02032750@incoming.verizon.net>

Joe,

I've had Verizon DSL for over a year now and am quite satiefied with it.

Also, I was impressed with their support, the 2 or 3 times I needed it. 
Installation package (modem, filters, CD) arrvied in 3 days from ordering, 
had it running inside of an hour. Called Support because I wanted not to 
install MSN (I use IE and Eudora). Support had me fixed in ten minutes.
Another time I needed Support was when an email correspondent in New 
Brunswick was being blocked. That time I dealt with Online Support; assured 
me the problem would be fixed. Sent me an email a day later that it was 
fixed (it was). Then customer support follwed up with a phone callshortly 
after to verify that everything was working.

I'm using it at home, mainly for email and the occasional downloads - I do 
some genealogy and use it for searching online databases, and images.

Main reasons for going with Verizon DSL:
1. Availability
2. Cost - $29.95 vs ComCast $42.95 (both depending on package of other options)
3. I have ComCast cable TV now. I'm totally ticked at their pricing that I 
wouldn't give them another nickel if they were the only game in town. Their 
service stinks. There are outages and disruptions at least once a month 
that last sometimes a whole weekend. Support is nil. No support outside 
business hours; when you do get them, the stock answer is, "we have 
recieved no reports of problems in that area." I'd still have dialup if 
they were the only option.

Verizon is testing cable TV via DSL in a number of areas here in eastern 
Mass. When they expand that, I'll drop ComCast.

Thanks for asking,
Bob


At 4/18/2005 02:06 PM, you wrote:
>I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.
>
>  Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of any
>reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year
>
>Joe Hecht
>
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>
>28g





Bob Geldart             BGeldart at verizon.net
Maynard, MA


From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Apr 18 15:52:56 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:52:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873993@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <00aa01c54458$9a360710$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hi,

so i can't make an autoexec macro that changes these items by code.

When this isnt possible, what is the best thing to do then??


Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


> You can't.  Design changes can only be made in the table itself, which
> means the original table.  The linked table is just an aliased pointer
> to the original.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:05 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i have a backend database that has a linked table from another database,
> that is made by a firm (No adjustments can be made in the original
> table).
>
> How can i change the tables name, the name of the ID field and the
> datatype in number in the linked table.
>
> Pedro Janssen
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From JHewson at karta.com  Mon Apr 18 16:28:40 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:28:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F58@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

I would create a query and change the name there.
In the design view field row, you can add the new name with a colon after it, followed by the actual name of the field.
In SQL it's something like: 
SELECT tblLinked.OldID as NewID
Don't add any calculations, group by, etc. 
You can change the format, but sometimes that's not too useful.
Then use the query as you would a table with the new names.

HTH
Jim 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


Hi,

so i can't make an autoexec macro that changes these items by code.

When this isnt possible, what is the best thing to do then??


Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


> You can't.  Design changes can only be made in the table itself, which
> means the original table.  The linked table is just an aliased pointer
> to the original.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:05 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i have a backend database that has a linked table from another database,
> that is made by a firm (No adjustments can be made in the original
> table).
>
> How can i change the tables name, the name of the ID field and the
> datatype in number in the linked table.
>
> Pedro Janssen
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 18 17:37:42 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:37:42 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899F85@infoserver01.infostat.local>

LOL Haven't you followed any of the great event debates?? <vbg>

On form #1 declare this:

WithEvents frm As Form_Form2

Or this:

WithEvents frm As Form

That allows you to create a frm_Close event procedure for the other form
on Form1.

Then in the event of Form1 the opens Form2, instantiate the frm object:

DoCmd.OpenForm "Form2"
Set frm = forms!Form2


Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;


"open the other form using automation and sink its Close event on the 
calling form"

Como?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;


> So is that the routine behind a button or a label?  I have to say that

> I wouldn't do it the way you appear to be attempting with either.  You

> don't need a DoEvents loop if you open the other form using automation
> and sink its Close event on the calling form.   DoEvents is sometimes
> necessary, but I avoid it whenever possible, since it also can cause 
> hangups.  Simply put any code to be run after the other form closes in

> the event sink on the calling form.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:10 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>
>
> Charlotte:
>
> It's just: Private Sub cmdContinue_Click()
>
> in that procedure there's a call to:
>
> ' get next question
>    strNext = GetNextQuestion
>
> and those lines of code appear in the GetNextQuestion function.
>
> Normally GetNextQuestion returns the next question in the assessment, 
> but there are several charts in the assessment - dieases, sleeping 
> pills, medications, relaxations techniques, activities in bed, etc. - 
> which contain
> a bunch of check boxes.
>
> When they are loaded, instead of closing the main assessment form, I 
> just make it invisible and use that SysCmd function to know when the 
> chart form
> closes.
>
> Do you think using the IsLoaded property of the AllForms collection 
> might make a difference?  Shouldn't but who knows.  After all, it's 
> Access.
>
> TIA
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:42 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>
>
>> I've never found that to be true, Rocky, and I have used labels as 
>> light weight "buttons" in several recent versions of Access.  What 
>> does the declaration for the procedure look like?
>>
>> Charlotte Foust
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:36 PM
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>>
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> Is there a difference in how the On Click event works for a command 
>> button versus a label in Access 2003.
>>
>> I had a form that was working with command buttons.  But the gray 
>> command buttons are ugly.  So I substituted a label and put the code 
>> from the command button behind the label.
>>
>> When you click this button (or label) it opens another form, makes 
>> the
>
>> calling for invisible until the called form closes:
>>
>>            DoCmd.OpenForm "frmActivitiesInBed"
>>            Me.Visible = False
>>            Do While SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm,
>> "frmActivitiesInBed") <> 0
>>               DoEvents
>>            Loop
>>
>> This works real well when in a command button On Click but when it's 
>> called in a label's On Click, the system totally hangs with 100% CPU 
>> usage.
>>
>> Another curious symptom: If I alt-Tab away from the app window while 
>> it's froze, and back again, it unfreezes the app.
>>
>> Does this sound familiar to anybody?
>>
>> MTIA,
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>> 858-259-4334
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 19 01:36:58 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:36:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
In-Reply-To: <017701c54447$e2226980$5b1865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <000b01c544aa$300c78e0$1bf00651@minster33c3r25>

Thanks AD, I'll try it.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.Tejpal
> Sent: 18 April 2005 19:53
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
> 
> 
> Andy,
> 
>     Totals query named Q_Andy2, given below, should get you 
> the desired result. It uses union query named Q_Andy1 as its source.
> 
> Best wishes,
> A.D.Tejpal
> --------------
> 
> Q_Andy2 (Final Query - Totals Query) 
> ==================================
> SELECT [Code1] & [Code2] AS Code, Sum(Q_Andy1.Qty) AS 
> SumOfQty FROM Q_Andy1 GROUP BY [Code1] & [Code2]; 
> ==================================
> 
> Q_Andy1 (Preliminary Query - Union type) 
> ==================================
> Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy1 
> Union ALL 
> Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy2 
> UNION ALL 
> Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy3; 
> ==================================
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Andy Lacey 
>   To: Dba 
>   Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 21:38
>   Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
> 
> 
>   Afternoon all, how's things?
> 
>   Can someone help dense old me? I can't figure out how to do this.
> 
>   I have 3 tables, structure of each is Code1, Code2, Qty 
> (I'm simplifying).
>   Example data:
> 
>   tbl1
>   ----
>   A    B  36
>   A    B  45
>   B    B  21
>   B    C  22
> 
>   tbl2
>   -----
>   A    A  9
>   B    B  12
> 
>   tbl3
>   ----
>   A    B  7
>   B    D  3
> 
>   What I want as output is the total qty for each unique pair 
> of Code1 and Code2, ie
> 
>   A    A  9
>   A    B  88
>   B    B  33
>   B    C  22
>   B    D  3
> 
>   I started by writing a query for each table to sum qty by 
> Code1 and Code2 then began to do a UNION query and stopped 
> there cos I can't see how I sum or Group across the 3 
> original queries in my UNION query. So I must have started 
> wrong but I've got a senior moment or something cos I can't see it.
> 
>   Can someone please help me out?
> 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 19 03:36:50 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 9:36:50 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
Message-ID: <20050419083648.A6EFE24DC73@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Many thanks AD, it worked a treat. I was going at it the wrong way with
creating three separate queries then trying to UNION and GROUP them at the
same time. Thanks for taking the trouble to help me out.

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.Tejpal
> Sent: 18 April 2005 19:53
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
>
>
> Andy,
>
>     Totals query named Q_Andy2, given below, should get you
> the desired result. It uses union query named Q_Andy1 as its source.
>
> Best wishes,
> A.D.Tejpal
> --------------
>
> Q_Andy2 (Final Query - Totals Query)
> ==================================
> SELECT [Code1] & [Code2] AS Code, Sum(Q_Andy1.Qty) AS
> SumOfQty FROM Q_Andy1 GROUP BY [Code1] & [Code2];
> ==================================
>
> Q_Andy1 (Preliminary Query - Union type)
> ==================================
> Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy1
> Union ALL
> Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy2
> UNION ALL
> Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy3;
> ==================================
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Andy Lacey
>   To: Dba
>   Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 21:38
>   Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
>
>
>   Afternoon all, how's things?
>
>   Can someone help dense old me? I can't figure out how to do this.
>
>   I have 3 tables, structure of each is Code1, Code2, Qty
> (I'm simplifying).
>   Example data:
>
>   tbl1
>   ----
>   A    B  36
>   A    B  45
>   B    B  21
>   B    C  22
>
>   tbl2
>   -----
>   A    A  9
>   B    B  12
>
>   tbl3
>   ----
>   A    B  7
>   B    D  3
>
>   What I want as output is the total qty for each unique pair
> of Code1 and Code2, ie
>
>   A    A  9
>   A    B  88
>   B    B  33
>   B    C  22
>   B    D  3
>
>   I started by writing a query for each table to sum qty by
> Code1 and Code2 then began to do a UNION query and stopped
> there cos I can't see how I sum or Group across the 3
> original queries in my UNION query. So I must have started
> wrong but I've got a senior moment or something cos I can't see it.
>
>   Can someone please help me out?
>
>   --
>   Andy Lacey
>   http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Apr 19 04:12:53 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:12:53 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A51@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Dear friends....
 
Whats the easyest way to get a Spanish (upside down) question mark in a
E-mail or Office?
The customer is using a English international Windows XP and Office 2K3
(or XP).
 
He says that ALT+189 should do the trick but this does not work,
probably depending on the font.
So what font does work.
 
Greetz
 

 

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 19 04:49:35 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:49:35 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Message-ID: <20050419094932.B6A75255FF2@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi Erwin
Well in Word the key combination Shift-Alt Gr-? works for me, although it
takes some typing. But it doesn't work in Excel or Outlook so don't know if
that's any use to you.

--
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From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Date: 19/04/05 09:14

>
> Dear friends....
>
> Whats the easyest way to get a Spanish (upside down) question mark in a
> E-mail or Office?
> The customer is using a English international Windows XP and Office 2K3
> (or XP).
>
> He says that ALT+189 should do the trick but this does not work,
> probably depending on the font.
> So what font does work.
>
> Greetz
>
>
>
>
> Erwin Craps
>
> Zaakvoerder
>
> www.ithelps.be/onsgezin
>
>
>
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Tue Apr 19 05:03:55 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:03:55 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
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Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAPeTLgpBVWZGtJr3+DzcmMcBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

ALT+0191 works with Arial, Tahoma and Times New Roman  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: 19 April 2005 10:50
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark

Hi Erwin
Well in Word the key combination Shift-Alt Gr-? works for me, although it
takes some typing. But it doesn't work in Excel or Outlook so don't know if
that's any use to you.

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Date: 19/04/05 09:14

>
> Dear friends....
>
> Whats the easyest way to get a Spanish (upside down) question mark in 
> a E-mail or Office?
> The customer is using a English international Windows XP and Office 
> 2K3 (or XP).
>
> He says that ALT+189 should do the trick but this does not work, 
> probably depending on the font.
> So what font does work.
>
> Greetz
>
>
>
>
> Erwin Craps
>
> Zaakvoerder
>
> www.ithelps.be/onsgezin
>
>
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 19 04:58:36 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:58:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Message-ID: <20050419095834.580B3261BA8@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Just discovered that Alt 168 does the ? and Alt 173 the ?

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From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Date: 19/04/05 09:51

>
> Hi Erwin
> Well in Word the key combination Shift-Alt Gr-? works for me, although it
> takes some typing. But it doesn't work in Excel or Outlook so don't know
if
> that's any use to you.
>
> --
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>
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> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com &lt;AccessD at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
> Date: 19/04/05 09:14
>
> &gt;
> &gt; Dear friends....
> &gt;
> &gt; Whats the easyest way to get a Spanish (upside down) question mark in
a
> &gt; E-mail or Office?
> &gt; The customer is using a English international Windows XP and Office
2K3
> &gt; (or XP).
> &gt;
> &gt; He says that ALT+189 should do the trick but this does not work,
> &gt; probably depending on the font.
> &gt; So what font does work.
> &gt;
> &gt; Greetz
> &gt;
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> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; Erwin Craps
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 19 04:55:33 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:55:33 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Message-ID: <20050419095531.3ECED261A84@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Oh and the same goes for the upside down ! (Shift - Alt Gr - !)

Is the right-hand Alt key always labelled Alt Gr by the way? It's that one I
mean.

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--------- Original Message --------
From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Date: 19/04/05 09:51

>
> Hi Erwin
> Well in Word the key combination Shift-Alt Gr-? works for me, although it
> takes some typing. But it doesn't work in Excel or Outlook so don't know
if
> that's any use to you.
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com &lt;AccessD at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
> Date: 19/04/05 09:14
>
> &gt;
> &gt; Dear friends....
> &gt;
> &gt; Whats the easyest way to get a Spanish (upside down) question mark in
a
> &gt; E-mail or Office?
> &gt; The customer is using a English international Windows XP and Office
2K3
> &gt; (or XP).
> &gt;
> &gt; He says that ALT+189 should do the trick but this does not work,
> &gt; probably depending on the font.
> &gt; So what font does work.
> &gt;
> &gt; Greetz
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; Erwin Craps
> &gt;
> &gt; Zaakvoerder
> &gt;
> &gt; www.ithelps.be/onsgezin
> &gt;
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 19 05:26:41 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:26:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A51@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <42656981.25654.10BE07A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 19 Apr 2005 at 11:12, Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

> Dear friends....
>  
> Whats the easyest way to get a Spanish (upside down) question mark in a
> E-mail or Office?
> The customer is using a English international Windows XP and Office 2K3
> (or XP).
>  
> He says that ALT+189 should do the trick but this does not work,
> probably depending on the font.
> So what font does work.
>  

Try Alt + 0191. That works in all the standard fonts. (Note that you need  
four digits with the leading "0". Using 3 digits in Word etc gives the old 
ASCII line draw characters.


A great little tool for answering this sort of question quickly is the 
Pricelessware (http://www.pricelesswar.org) recommended utility:

Extended Character Map
(Freeware)
Windows OS: Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000
Languages: English
Description: Extended Character Map is like the Windows Character Map 
utility but uses much bigger, easier-to-see characters. The utility is 
especially useful for viewing the pictures in a symbol or Dingbat font. 
Characters can be seen up to 100pt size. No more squinting at Webding 
characters trying to figure out "is that a race car or a textile factory?". 
The keystroke name is displayed in the program's status bar. The 
Decimal/Hex/Oct/Binary values are also displayed. Additionally, you can 
view the fonts with one or more attributes selected (Bold, Italic, 
Underline, Strikeout). Using ExtendedCharacterMap, any character or series 
of characters can be quickly copied to the clipboard.
Company: -- Author: Sony Arianto Kurniawan

Program description:
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6166,00.asp

download v 1.41 (extended.zip) (189 KB)
http://ftp.pcworld.com/pub/new/desktop/fonts/extended.zip 


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 19 05:32:02 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:32:02 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
In-Reply-To: <20050419095531.3ECED261A84@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <42656AC2.28832.110C7F8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 19 Apr 2005 at 10:55, Andy Lacey wrote:

> Oh and the same goes for the upside down ! (Shift - Alt Gr - !)
> 
> Is the right-hand Alt key always labelled Alt Gr by the way? It's that one I
> mean.
> 

Only on some non-US keyboards. On US keyboards, it's just "Alt"


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 19 05:46:40 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:46:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Message-ID: <20050419104638.06AFB2743B6@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Thanks Stuart. I had a feeling there were differences. So I mean the
right-Alt.

Interesting what you say about Alt numbers though. Again we have a
difference.
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From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Date: 19/04/05 10:33

>
> On 19 Apr 2005 at 10:55, Andy Lacey wrote:
>
> &gt; Oh and the same goes for the upside down ! (Shift - Alt Gr - !)
> &gt;
> &gt; Is the right-hand Alt key always labelled Alt Gr by the way? It's
that one I
> &gt; mean.
> &gt;
>
> Only on some non-US keyboards. On US keyboards, it's just &quot;Alt&quot;
>
>
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Apr 19 06:17:11 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:17:11 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark-SOLVED
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A5A@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

 
Apparently he got the 186 wrong with the 168...

But I have several solutions now....

AVRYBIGTHX



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:47 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark

Thanks Stuart. I had a feeling there were differences. So I mean the
right-Alt.

Interesting what you say about Alt numbers though. Again we have a
difference.
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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Date: 19/04/05 10:33

>
> On 19 Apr 2005 at 10:55, Andy Lacey wrote:
>
> &gt; Oh and the same goes for the upside down ! (Shift - Alt Gr - !) 
> &gt; &gt; Is the right-hand Alt key always labelled Alt Gr by the way?

> It's
that one I
> &gt; mean.
> &gt;
>
> Only on some non-US keyboards. On US keyboards, it's just 
> &quot;Alt&quot;
>
>
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From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Tue Apr 19 07:48:06 2005
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:48:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050418161217.02032750@incoming.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <000001c544de$09275bd0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Here, here......what??  Another dissatisfied Comcast customer??  Say it
isn't so!!!??

IMSHO.....Comcast is the WORST example of customer oriented company
.....EVER!!!!  And I would lump failed communist service companies from the
old USSR, in that.  If they are worse than socialist companies....they ARE
bad!!!   :)

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Geldart
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


Joe,

I've had Verizon DSL for over a year now and am quite satiefied with it.

Also, I was impressed with their support, the 2 or 3 times I needed it. 
Installation package (modem, filters, CD) arrvied in 3 days from ordering, 
had it running inside of an hour. Called Support because I wanted not to 
install MSN (I use IE and Eudora). Support had me fixed in ten minutes.
Another time I needed Support was when an email correspondent in New 
Brunswick was being blocked. That time I dealt with Online Support; assured 
me the problem would be fixed. Sent me an email a day later that it was 
fixed (it was). Then customer support follwed up with a phone callshortly 
after to verify that everything was working.

I'm using it at home, mainly for email and the occasional downloads - I do 
some genealogy and use it for searching online databases, and images.

Main reasons for going with Verizon DSL:
1. Availability
2. Cost - $29.95 vs ComCast $42.95 (both depending on package of other
options) 3. I have ComCast cable TV now. I'm totally ticked at their pricing
that I 
wouldn't give them another nickel if they were the only game in town. Their 
service stinks. There are outages and disruptions at least once a month 
that last sometimes a whole weekend. Support is nil. No support outside 
business hours; when you do get them, the stock answer is, "we have 
recieved no reports of problems in that area." I'd still have dialup if 
they were the only option.

Verizon is testing cable TV via DSL in a number of areas here in eastern 
Mass. When they expand that, I'll drop ComCast.

Thanks for asking,
Bob


At 4/18/2005 02:06 PM, you wrote:
>I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.
>
>  Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of 
>any reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year
>
>Joe Hecht
>
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>
>28g





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From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Tue Apr 19 08:03:05 2005
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:03:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
In-Reply-To: <000001c544de$09275bd0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
Message-ID: <000101c544e0$26791640$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Excuse me...Comcast is the BEST example of the Worst Company!!

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


Here, here......what??  Another dissatisfied Comcast customer??  Say it
isn't so!!!??

IMSHO.....Comcast is the WORST example of customer oriented company
.....EVER!!!!  And I would lump failed communist service companies from the
old USSR, in that.  If they are worse than socialist companies....they ARE
bad!!!   :)

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Geldart
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


Joe,

I've had Verizon DSL for over a year now and am quite satiefied with it.

Also, I was impressed with their support, the 2 or 3 times I needed it. 
Installation package (modem, filters, CD) arrvied in 3 days from ordering, 
had it running inside of an hour. Called Support because I wanted not to 
install MSN (I use IE and Eudora). Support had me fixed in ten minutes.
Another time I needed Support was when an email correspondent in New 
Brunswick was being blocked. That time I dealt with Online Support; assured 
me the problem would be fixed. Sent me an email a day later that it was 
fixed (it was). Then customer support follwed up with a phone callshortly 
after to verify that everything was working.

I'm using it at home, mainly for email and the occasional downloads - I do 
some genealogy and use it for searching online databases, and images.

Main reasons for going with Verizon DSL:
1. Availability
2. Cost - $29.95 vs ComCast $42.95 (both depending on package of other
options) 3. I have ComCast cable TV now. I'm totally ticked at their pricing
that I 
wouldn't give them another nickel if they were the only game in town. Their 
service stinks. There are outages and disruptions at least once a month 
that last sometimes a whole weekend. Support is nil. No support outside 
business hours; when you do get them, the stock answer is, "we have 
recieved no reports of problems in that area." I'd still have dialup if 
they were the only option.

Verizon is testing cable TV via DSL in a number of areas here in eastern 
Mass. When they expand that, I'll drop ComCast.

Thanks for asking,
Bob


At 4/18/2005 02:06 PM, you wrote:
>I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.
>
>  Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of
>any reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year
>
>Joe Hecht
>
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>
>28g





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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Apr 19 08:43:09 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:43:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Repeat a section on a report
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A239@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I have a report that needs to have a certain portion of it repeated BOTH on
new page and on a group break but I don't want it to double up on it's self
in the event that both occur at the same time, which is what would happen on
the first page.
I know how to make portions of a report repeat it self (page header and
group header) but I don't know how to get around this problem.
Any ideas on how to work around this?

Thanks!
JR





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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Tue Apr 19 08:49:22 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:19:22 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
References: <20050419083648.A6EFE24DC73@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <002601c544e6$ac8d10a0$921865cb@winxp>

    You are most welcome Andy!

A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andy Lacey 
  To: Dba 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 14:06
  Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this


  Many thanks AD, it worked a treat. I was going at it the wrong way with creating three separate queries then trying to UNION and GROUP them at the same time. Thanks for taking the trouble to help me out.
  --
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  http://www.minstersystems.co.uk


  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.Tejpal
  > Sent: 18 April 2005 19:53
  > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
  >
  >
  > Andy,
  >
  >     Totals query named Q_Andy2, given below, should get you
  > the desired result. It uses union query named Q_Andy1 as its source.
  >
  > Best wishes,
  > A.D.Tejpal
  > --------------
  >
  > Q_Andy2 (Final Query - Totals Query)
  > ==================================
  > SELECT [Code1] & [Code2] AS Code, Sum(Q_Andy1.Qty) AS
  > SumOfQty FROM Q_Andy1 GROUP BY [Code1] & [Code2];
  > ==================================
  >
  > Q_Andy1 (Preliminary Query - Union type)
  > ==================================
  > Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy1
  > Union ALL
  > Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy2
  > UNION ALL
  > Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy3;
  > ==================================
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Andy Lacey
  >   To: Dba
  >   Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 21:38
  >   Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
  >
  >
  >   Afternoon all, how's things?
  >
  >   Can someone help dense old me? I can't figure out how to do this.
  >
  >   I have 3 tables, structure of each is Code1, Code2, Qty
  > (I'm simplifying).
  >   Example data:
  >
  >   tbl1
  >   ----
  >   A    B  36
  >   A    B  45
  >   B    B  21
  >   B    C  22
  >
  >   tbl2
  >   -----
  >   A    A  9
  >   B    B  12
  >
  >   tbl3
  >   ----
  >   A    B  7
  >   B    D  3
  >
  >   What I want as output is the total qty for each unique pair
  > of Code1 and Code2, ie
  >
  >   A    A  9
  >   A    B  88
  >   B    B  33
  >   B    C  22
  >   B    D  3
  >
  >   I started by writing a query for each table to sum qty by
  > Code1 and Code2 then began to do a UNION query and stopped
  > there cos I can't see how I sum or Group across the 3
  > original queries in my UNION query. So I must have started
  > wrong but I've got a senior moment or something cos I can't see it.
  >
  >   Can someone please help me out?
  >
  >   --
  >   Andy Lacey
  >   http://www.minstersystems.co.uk


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr 19 10:08:26 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:08:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Repeat a section on a report
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687399B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Set the repeating section to Visible = false.  Then add something like
this in its format event (assuming the "section" is a group header):  If
Page > 1 Then Me(sectionname).Visible = true 

Or do the reverse and hide it on page 1.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 6:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Repeat a section on a report


Hi All,

I have a report that needs to have a certain portion of it repeated BOTH
on new page and on a group break but I don't want it to double up on
it's self in the event that both occur at the same time, which is what
would happen on the first page. I know how to make portions of a report
repeat it self (page header and group header) but I don't know how to
get around this problem. Any ideas on how to work around this?

Thanks!
JR





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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Apr 19 12:35:44 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:35:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor
In-Reply-To: <00b101c5392d$42590910$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <001e01c54506$37aca9b0$6501a8c0@laptop1>

Rocky,

Some questions before I say yes:
 

I have Axp on 1 machine and A2K3 on the other

What will a runtime do to my setups?

Do you an MDB version I can do?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Cc: Rubin Naiman
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor

Joe:

If you don't mind we would greatly appreciate your doing the Sleep Advisor 
again.  We made a lot of changes in the way the questions are worded and in 
the output (a bit shorter and more concise in many places, although the 
report is still quite detailed; more accurate, too, we hope).

So we'd be interested in your reaction to the inputs and the outputs.  Also,

since you're a developer, you can tell me how the installation process 
goes - this is a run-time you'll be downloading.

So, please give it a go and, when you've finished, don't forget to attach 
the two txt files to an email and send them in.  We'll send you back a pdf 
of your report.

Thanks and regards,





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 19 13:20:55 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:20:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor
References: <001e01c54506$37aca9b0$6501a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <013501c5450c$874b4bb0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Joe:

I have an mde.  However, Sagekey guarantees that there's no problem with any 
installation of Office by using their scripts.  However, I can send you an 
mde if you like.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:35 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor


> Rocky,
>
> Some questions before I say yes:
>
>
> I have Axp on 1 machine and A2K3 on the other
>
> What will a runtime do to my setups?
>
> Do you an MDB version I can do?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:45 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Cc: Rubin Naiman
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor
>
> Joe:
>
> If you don't mind we would greatly appreciate your doing the Sleep Advisor
> again.  We made a lot of changes in the way the questions are worded and 
> in
> the output (a bit shorter and more concise in many places, although the
> report is still quite detailed; more accurate, too, we hope).
>
> So we'd be interested in your reaction to the inputs and the outputs. 
> Also,
>
> since you're a developer, you can tell me how the installation process
> goes - this is a run-time you'll be downloading.
>
> So, please give it a go and, when you've finished, don't forget to attach
> the two txt files to an email and send them in.  We'll send you back a pdf
> of your report.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
>
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 19 14:22:22 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:22:22 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access 2000
Message-ID: <s26576a1.066@cactus.dk>

Hi all

How do you do this?

I did an install of Access 2000 including the latest service packs etc.
and the option for creating and using a digital certificate. 
But when I go to the VB editor and pick Tools, no menu entry for
digitally signing the code exists even though it is supposed to be
there. 

Do you need to add an add-in or what is the trick?

/gustav


From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Apr 19 16:20:20 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:20:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F58@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <00c901c54525$980c3310$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hi,

is it possible to make a copy of the linked database by code, and change the
name, field name and datatype of this copy?

Pedro


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


> I would create a query and change the name there.
> In the design view field row, you can add the new name with a colon after
it, followed by the actual name of the field.
> In SQL it's something like:
> SELECT tblLinked.OldID as NewID
> Don't add any calculations, group by, etc.
> You can change the format, but sometimes that's not too useful.
> Then use the query as you would a table with the new names.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:53 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
>
>
> Hi,
>
> so i can't make an autoexec macro that changes these items by code.
>
> When this isnt possible, what is the best thing to do then??
>
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
>
>
> > You can't.  Design changes can only be made in the table itself, which
> > means the original table.  The linked table is just an aliased pointer
> > to the original.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl]
> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:05 PM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
> >
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > i have a backend database that has a linked table from another database,
> > that is made by a firm (No adjustments can be made in the original
> > table).
> >
> > How can i change the tables name, the name of the ID field and the
> > datatype in number in the linked table.
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> > --
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From bgoss711 at ameritech.net  Tue Apr 19 16:31:48 2005
From: bgoss711 at ameritech.net (Bud Goss)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:31:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] ODBC For AS400 with Access 2003 - solution- Documented
	Microsoft Bug
Message-ID: <20050419213148.56846.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com>

I initially named this topic Use if (typo should be "of" not "if") 
HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003
 
I have renamed this solution post because the problem is not exclusive to the HIT Software ODBC driver. It will occur also occur with IBM's iSeries Access driver- and probably others as well.
 
If you encounter this (getting a message that an "Index Aready Exists") when working with an Access 2003 database refer to the following Microsoft Knowledge Base articles
 
811963
870753
837001
 
With my Hit software, I learned that the problem can be by-passed by un-checking the SQLStasistics option.
 
With the iSeries software, a couple of hotfix installs are required.I have not actually installed the hotfixs on a test machine yet, but am reasonably confident that this will resolve the issue.
 
Thanks to all who commented..
 
 


From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Apr 19 16:45:30 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:45:30 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050420094318.039d2090@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

It looks like I need to start working with Visual Studio.net to web enable 
some of my applications.

Does anyone know of a good user group like this one, or are there enough of 
us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr 19 16:54:27 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:54:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739A1@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You could, but what good would it do you?  It would have no effect
whatsoever on the linked table, and if you linked to the code instead
you would run into synchronization issues.  Jim's suggestion is the way
I would do it.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying for, aside
from changing a field, someone will be able to make a more useful
suggestion.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


Hi,

is it possible to make a copy of the linked database by code, and change
the name, field name and datatype of this copy?

Pedro


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


> I would create a query and change the name there.
> In the design view field row, you can add the new name with a colon 
> after
it, followed by the actual name of the field.
> In SQL it's something like:
> SELECT tblLinked.OldID as NewID
> Don't add any calculations, group by, etc.
> You can change the format, but sometimes that's not too useful. Then 
> use the query as you would a table with the new names.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro 
> Janssen
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:53 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
>
>
> Hi,
>
> so i can't make an autoexec macro that changes these items by code.
>
> When this isnt possible, what is the best thing to do then??
>
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
>
>
> > You can't.  Design changes can only be made in the table itself, 
> > which means the original table.  The linked table is just an aliased

> > pointer to the original.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl]
> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:05 PM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
> >
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > i have a backend database that has a linked table from another 
> > database, that is made by a firm (No adjustments can be made in the 
> > original table).
> >
> > How can i change the tables name, the name of the ID field and the 
> > datatype in number in the linked table.
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> > --
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr 19 16:56:22 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:56:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739A2@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I'm working in .Net too and would find a focused list helpful.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: David Emerson [mailto:newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group


It looks like I need to start working with Visual Studio.net to web
enable 
some of my applications.

Does anyone know of a good user group like this one, or are there enough
of 
us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 19 17:01:10 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:01:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
In-Reply-To: <00c901c54525$980c3310$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <42660C46.22600.387B492@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 19 Apr 2005 at 23:20, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> is it possible to make a copy of the linked database by code, and change the
> name, field name and datatype of this copy?
> 

One way would be to create a new table with the desired format either 
directly in your application database or or in a separate "backend" 
database and link to that as well as to the original table.  Then 
periodically run two queries , a delete query to clear  your new table  
followed by an Insert query of all the records from the old table into the 
new table.

If there is a unique key in the old table, you can set a unique index on  
that field in the new table and forget about the delete query.

Note that if you are doing this frequently, you will have to compact the 
database regularly or you will get very bad bloat. 




-- 
Stuart




From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr 19 17:29:42 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:29:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739A2@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200504192229.j3JMTkxG425804@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>

It look sto me like the DBA-VB list covers .net quite a bit. I don't really
keep close tabs on it though, can anyone else pipe in on that?


John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group

I'm working in .Net too and would find a focused list helpful.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: David Emerson [mailto:newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group


It looks like I need to start working with Visual Studio.net to web
enable 
some of my applications.

Does anyone know of a good user group like this one, or are there enough
of 
us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348 

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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Tue Apr 19 18:24:27 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:24:27 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Is Array the best alternative or do I have options
Message-ID: <OF82CF2B30.3C8A4AB1-ONCA256FE8.007C9669@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Having solved the last problem (thanks to some helpful advice from Rocky).
I now move on to the next.


In my Application I must generate reports from parameters passed from the
user. These parameters are start and end Authority Number. That is all
working fine and the customer was happy, but as they are want to do they
have decided they need a change. So now I need to pass these start and end
numbers to a function and see if they have paid their fees and insurance
before allowing the record to be printed. But I also need to present the
user with a list of records that have not been printed because of non
payment.



I have tried to do this by using an Array and then passing the Array back
to a second function to check if the numbers are in the array but I keep
getting a subscript out of range error on my array. I have done a record
count and there should be 383 records in the Array.



Is there a better way to do this? I have posted the start of my code below,
I get a subscript out of range on CheckInsFees


Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
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Public Function checkInsFees()
Dim CheckInsFees As Variant
Dim i As Integer
Dim rsCheckFees As Recordset
Dim dbCheckFees As Database
Dim StrSQL As String
Dim intCount As Integer
Dim MyCount As Integer
Dim MyRenewalID As Integer

StrSQL = "SELECT tblDAuthorityRenewal.AuthorityRenewalID FROM
tblDAuthorityRenewal WHERE tblDAuthorityRenewal.FeesPaid = -1 AND
tblDAuthorityrenewal.InsuranceSighted = -1"

Set dbCheckFees = CurrentDb()
    Set rsCheckFees = dbCheckFees.OpenRecordset(StrSQL, dbOpenSnapshot)
    MyCount = rsCheckFees.RecordCount
      CheckInsFees = rsCheckFees.GetRows(MyCount)

    intCount = UBound(CheckInsFees, 2) + 1



ExitRoutine:
    On Error Resume Next
        rsCheckFees.Close
        dbCheckFees.Close

        Set rsCheckFees = Nothing
        Set dbCheckFees = Nothing
    Exit Function

Failure:
        Call ErrorHandler(lngErrorNumber:=Err.Number,
strErrorDescription:=Err.Description, strErrorSource:=Err.Source)
        Resume ExitRoutine



End Function





From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 19 19:28:35 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:28:35 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Is Array the best alternative or do I have options
In-Reply-To: <OF82CF2B30.3C8A4AB1-ONCA256FE8.007C9669@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <42662ED3.24377.40EA8F9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 20 Apr 2005 at 9:24, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.go wrote:


> In my Application I must generate reports from parameters passed from the
> user. These parameters are start and end Authority Number. That is all
> working fine and the customer was happy, but as they are want to do they
> have decided they need a change. So now I need to pass these start and end
> numbers to a function and see if they have paid their fees and insurance
> before allowing the record to be printed. But I also need to present the
> user with a list of records that have not been printed because of non
> payment.
> 

Why not base just your report on a query which includes the criteria

" WHERE tblDAuthorityRenewal.FeesPaid = -1 AND 
tblDAuthorityrenewal.InsuranceSighted = -1"


then display a query for the user which shows the "not printed" records by 
using the criteria:

" WHERE tblDAuthorityRenewal.FeesPaid <> -1 OR
tblDAuthorityrenewal.InsuranceSighted <> -1"

You can include in the query the fields FeesPaid and InsuranceSighted 
(formatted "Yes/No") so that the user can see why each record was not 
printed.






-- 
Stuart




From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Tue Apr 19 19:32:24 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:32:24 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Is Array the best alternative or do I have options 
Message-ID: <OF1A058D65.B8B8E6BC-ONCA256FE9.0002BC07@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Of Course

Thanks Stuart. I hadn't thought of queries

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange

> In my Application I must generate reports from parameters passed from the
> user. These parameters are start and end Authority Number. That is all
> working fine and the customer was happy, but as they are want to do they
> have decided they need a change. So now I need to pass these start and
end
> numbers to a function and see if they have paid their fees and insurance
> before allowing the record to be printed. But I also need to present the
> user with a list of records that have not been printed because of non
> payment.
>

Why not base just your report on a query which includes the criteria

" WHERE tblDAuthorityRenewal.FeesPaid = -1 AND
tblDAuthorityrenewal.InsuranceSighted = -1"


then display a query for the user which shows the "not printed" records by
using the criteria:

" WHERE tblDAuthorityRenewal.FeesPaid <> -1 OR
tblDAuthorityrenewal.InsuranceSighted <> -1"

You can include in the query the fields FeesPaid and InsuranceSighted
(formatted "Yes/No") so that the user can see why each record was not
printed.






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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 19 19:35:56 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:35:56 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Is Array the best alternative or do I have options
In-Reply-To: <OF82CF2B30.3C8A4AB1-ONCA256FE8.007C9669@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <4266308C.24863.4156304@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 20 Apr 2005 at 9:24, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.go wrote:

> 
> I get a subscript out of range on CheckInsFees
> 
> Dim CheckInsFees As Variant
> 
>     MyCount = rsCheckFees.RecordCount
>       CheckInsFees = rsCheckFees.GetRows(MyCount)
> 
>     intCount = UBound(CheckInsFees, 2) + 1

I suspect that there are a couple of problems:

You are not declaring CheckInsFees as an Array. Use "Dim CheckInsFees() " 
The default for an undimensioned array is 10 elements.  If it is going to 
be any larger then you need to  REDIM CheckInsFees(MyCount)










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From mms at sentex.net  Tue Apr 19 19:56:22 2005
From: mms at sentex.net (Les Dunn)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:56:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050420094318.039d2090@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <002701c54543$c60997d0$573ec645@lesdunn>

I too have some .NET applications that I would like to make available on the 
net. I have posted questions to some of the various 
microsoft.public.dotnet... forums but have not received any quality replies 
that have even come close to answering my questions. I would be interested 
in hearing about any other alternative forums.
...Les

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To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:45 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group


> It looks like I need to start working with Visual Studio.net to web enable 
> some of my applications.
>
> Does anyone know of a good user group like this one, or are there enough 
> of us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?
>
> Regards
>
> David Emerson
> Dalyn Software Ltd
> 25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
> Wellington, New Zealand
> Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
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From ebarro at afsweb.com  Tue Apr 19 21:00:04 2005
From: ebarro at afsweb.com (Eric Barro)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:00:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739A2@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <DPEGIFJOAFKLEDNNDGHCKECGIBAA.ebarro@afsweb.com>

Same here.

Eric Barro

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group


I'm working in .Net too and would find a focused list helpful.

Charlotte Foust


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From: David Emerson [mailto:newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group


It looks like I need to start working with Visual Studio.net to web
enable 
some of my applications.

Does anyone know of a good user group like this one, or are there enough
of 
us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
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From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Wed Apr 20 02:42:00 2005
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:42:00 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D010E4B09@ddi-01.DDI.local>

If you want focused the try here...

http://discuss.develop.com/

cheers

Michael M

It looks like I need to start working with Visual Studio.net to web
enable some of my applications.

Does anyone know of a good user group like this one, or are there enough
of us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?

Regards

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Apr 20 07:21:35 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:21:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access 2000
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2EBD@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Gustav,

There's a pretty good article on this at http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/Pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=194 that should help you.  

Helen Fedemma has one too on her site in vol. 119.

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access 2000


Hi all

How do you do this?

I did an install of Access 2000 including the latest service packs etc.
and the option for creating and using a digital certificate. 
But when I go to the VB editor and pick Tools, no menu entry for
digitally signing the code exists even though it is supposed to be
there. 

Do you need to add an add-in or what is the trick?

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 20 07:57:59 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:57:59 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access
	2000
Message-ID: <s2666e16.074@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Thanks! I've browsed a lot and not seen that link but one of the links it carries:

  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q217221

One will notice that it claims to apply to:

APPLIES TO
* Microsoft Excel 2000 Standard Edition 
* Microsoft Access 2000 Standard Edition 
* Microsoft Outlook 2000 Standard Edition 
* Microsoft PowerPoint 2000 Standard Edition 
* Microsoft Word 2000 Standard Edition 
* Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications 6.0 

I wonder if anyone can confirm this for Access 2000?

/gustav


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/20 2:21 pm >>>
Gustav,

There's a pretty good article on this at http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/Pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=194 that should help you.  

Helen Fedemma has one too on her site in vol. 119.

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access 2000


Hi all

How do you do this?

I did an install of Access 2000 including the latest service packs etc.
and the option for creating and using a digital certificate. 
But when I go to the VB editor and pick Tools, no menu entry for
digitally signing the code exists even though it is supposed to be
there. 

Do you need to add an add-in or what is the trick?

/gustav
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Apr 20 08:22:46 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:22:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ODBC For AS400 with Access 2003 - solution- Documented
	Microsoft Bug
In-Reply-To: <20050419213148.56846.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050419213148.56846.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c49505042006221e6ec8bb@mail.gmail.com>

Good job figuring it out Bud and thanks for sharing the solution. 

I used to work with AS/400 data but it's close ten years ago now.
Perhaps I will again. My current employer does use an AS/400 for some
warehouse operations stuff in one of our locations, but I haven't been
called on to access it at all.

Gary


On 4/19/05, Bud Goss <bgoss711 at ameritech.net> wrote:
> I initially named this topic Use if (typo should be "of" not "if")
> HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003
> 
> I have renamed this solution post because the problem is not exclusive to the HIT Software ODBC driver. It will occur also occur with IBM's iSeries Access driver- and probably others as well.
> 
> If you encounter this (getting a message that an "Index Aready Exists") when working with an Access 2003 database refer to the following Microsoft Knowledge Base articles
> 
> 811963
> 870753
> 837001
> 
> With my Hit software, I learned that the problem can be by-passed by un-checking the SQLStasistics option.
> 
> With the iSeries software, a couple of hotfix installs are required.I have not actually installed the hotfixs on a test machine yet, but am reasonably confident that this will resolve the issue.
> 
> Thanks to all who commented..
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Wed Apr 20 11:35:55 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David Mcafee)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050420163555.57364.qmail@web80801.mail.yahoo.com>

me too


--- Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
wrote:
> I'm working in .Net too and would find a focused
> list helpful.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Emerson [mailto:newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:45 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
> 
> 
> It looks like I need to start working with Visual
> Studio.net to web
> enable 
> some of my applications.
> 
> Does anyone know of a good user group like this one,
> or are there enough
> of 
> us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?
> 
> Regards
> 
> David Emerson
> Dalyn Software Ltd
> 25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
> Wellington, New Zealand
> Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
> Mobile 027-280-9348 
> 
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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> 


From j.frederick at att.net  Wed Apr 20 12:23:05 2005
From: j.frederick at att.net (John Frederick)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:23:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Default Mail Handler for SendObject
Message-ID: <POEKKKOFLLJCHLPHPAIKIEDKCIAA.j.frederick@att.net>

I was successfully using SendObject to generate an email that popped up
in Lotus Notes, the clients standard email handler.  After an upgrade
of Office to 2002 and 2003, the email is coming up in Outlook.  The
operation fails because Outlook is not fully configured and has no
Address book entries.  Using IE Tools/Internet Options/Programs to set 
the default mail handler apparently doesn't solve the problem.  
Help.  jif



From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Apr 20 12:51:48 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:51:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F5F@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Has anyone done this before?

I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry of... data twice to ensure accuracy."
I thought of three methods of doing this.
1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare the record with the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second table when they match.
2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry and compare the results with the table to ensure they match then delete the data. 
3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the documents without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take less time and therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper, printing, etc.....

Thoughts!

Thanks,

Jim


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 20 13:07:55 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:07:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899FA2@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I've seen this kind of requirement before.  It's a holdover from the
green screen days when operators did heads down data entry all day and
there was little or no validation at data entry and the terminal
keyboard was limited.  QA relied on data being entered twice to make
sure it matched and then handling exceptions.  It doesn't make a lot of
sense in the newer languages, and I have dealt with it in the past by
suggesting that if the business rules were clearly defined, the data
could be verified in code either before or after being committed.  A
couple of problems with double entry verification are that the second
time could be incorrect or both could be incorrect but might match.  At
that point you have validated garbage.  This criteria is often suggested
by people who have no clue as to how validation can be done in code or
by the input form itself.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:52 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement


Has anyone done this before?

I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry
of... data twice to ensure accuracy." I thought of three methods of
doing this. 1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare
the record with the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second
table when they match. 2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry
and compare the results with the table to ensure they match then delete
the data. 
3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the
documents without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take
less time and therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper,
printing, etc.....

Thoughts!

Thanks,

Jim



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Apr 20 13:10:09 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:10:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B7B79B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA31@ADGSERVER>

I favor #1 the most and #3 the least.

I guess a lot of it depends on how it will be entered.  You might consider
an unbound form where the data is entered twice and compare fields before
writing out the data record.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:52 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement


Has anyone done this before?

I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry
of... data twice to ensure accuracy."
I thought of three methods of doing this.
1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare the record with
the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second table when they match.
2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry and compare the results
with the table to ensure they match then delete the data. 
3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the documents
without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take less time and
therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper, printing, etc.....

Thoughts!

Thanks,

Jim




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 20 13:12:49 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:12:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Default Mail Handler for SendObject
References: <POEKKKOFLLJCHLPHPAIKIEDKCIAA.j.frederick@att.net>
Message-ID: <42669BA1.7010305@shaw.ca>

I believe this is  set from windows explorer File-->SendTo-->MailRecipient
You probably have to set default inside lotus notes see these methods
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q306098#XSLTH3120121125120121120120

Or give up and use this

Lotus Notes Send EMail from VB or VBA
http://www.fabalou.com/VBandVBA/lotusnotesmail.asp
or
http://cwashington.netreach.net/depo/view.asp?Index=761&ScriptType=vbscript


John Frederick wrote:

>I was successfully using SendObject to generate an email that popped up
>in Lotus Notes, the clients standard email handler.  After an upgrade
>of Office to 2002 and 2003, the email is coming up in Outlook.  The
>operation fails because Outlook is not fully configured and has no
>Address book entries.  Using IE Tools/Internet Options/Programs to set 
>the default mail handler apparently doesn't solve the problem.  
>Help.  jif
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Apr 20 13:18:39 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:18:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F64@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Good points!  I didn't think about the three possible outcomes for double entry.
I like the validation by input form idea.  Then possibly a random visual comparison by another person for data accuracy.
Thanks!
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement


I've seen this kind of requirement before.  It's a holdover from the
green screen days when operators did heads down data entry all day and
there was little or no validation at data entry and the terminal
keyboard was limited.  QA relied on data being entered twice to make
sure it matched and then handling exceptions.  It doesn't make a lot of
sense in the newer languages, and I have dealt with it in the past by
suggesting that if the business rules were clearly defined, the data
could be verified in code either before or after being committed.  A
couple of problems with double entry verification are that the second
time could be incorrect or both could be incorrect but might match.  At
that point you have validated garbage.  This criteria is often suggested
by people who have no clue as to how validation can be done in code or
by the input form itself.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:52 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement


Has anyone done this before?

I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry
of... data twice to ensure accuracy." I thought of three methods of
doing this. 1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare
the record with the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second
table when they match. 2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry
and compare the results with the table to ensure they match then delete
the data. 
3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the
documents without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take
less time and therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper,
printing, etc.....

Thoughts!

Thanks,

Jim

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 20 13:20:20 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:20:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
Message-ID: <s266b9ac.085@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

This brings back memories of past times when you had typists typing in
figures they had no clue about what so ever - reading from hand written
sheets which contained errors too.

Charlotte's comment is very precise. This is a left-over from the days
where a correction could take a week, where you typed nearly blind
folded, and the only way to get a list to check your entries was to
request a print and wait for that. Today it would be waste of time. Thus
option #3.

/gustav


>>> JHewson at karta.com 04/20 7:51 pm >>>
Has anyone done this before?

I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the
entry of... data twice to ensure accuracy."
I thought of three methods of doing this.
1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare the record
with the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second table when
they match.
2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry and compare the
results with the table to ensure they match then delete the data. 
3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the
documents without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take
less time and therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper,
printing, etc.....

Thoughts!

Thanks,

Jim



From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Apr 20 13:22:13 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:22:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F65@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

That might work.
A tabbed form where the first data entry on tab 0 then second data entry on tab 1, compare data then save.
I'm going to try to change their minds before we end up double data entry.
Thanks.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement


I favor #1 the most and #3 the least.

I guess a lot of it depends on how it will be entered.  You might consider
an unbound form where the data is entered twice and compare fields before
writing out the data record.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:52 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement


Has anyone done this before?

I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry
of... data twice to ensure accuracy."
I thought of three methods of doing this.
1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare the record with
the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second table when they match.
2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry and compare the results
with the table to ensure they match then delete the data. 
3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the documents
without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take less time and
therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper, printing, etc.....

Thoughts!

Thanks,

Jim


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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Wed Apr 20 13:33:48 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:33:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access 2000
In-Reply-To: <s26576a1.066@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKEEKPCJAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this subject.
http://msaccessadvisor.com/


Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000. This is
better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which version of
Jet you have.

Also, unless you buy one, it appears that a user created cert will only work
on a given machine or network.

I am sure all of us will look forward to results of your investigation.


Bob Heygood




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access 2000


Hi all

How do you do this?

I did an install of Access 2000 including the latest service packs etc.
and the option for creating and using a digital certificate.
But when I go to the VB editor and pick Tools, no menu entry for
digitally signing the code exists even though it is supposed to be
there.

Do you need to add an add-in or what is the trick?

/gustav
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 20 13:47:01 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:47:01 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access
	2000
Message-ID: <s266bfe2.086@cactus.dk>

Hi Bob

Thanks, but all articles seem to require a subscription which I don't
have ...

/gustav

>>> bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/20 8:33 pm >>>
There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this
subject.
http://msaccessadvisor.com/ 


Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000. This
is
better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which version
of
Jet you have.

Also, unless you buy one, it appears that a user created cert will only
work
on a given machine or network.

I am sure all of us will look forward to results of your
investigation.


Bob Heygood




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access
2000


Hi all

How do you do this?

I did an install of Access 2000 including the latest service packs
etc.
and the option for creating and using a digital certificate.
But when I go to the VB editor and pick Tools, no menu entry for
digitally signing the code exists even though it is supposed to be
there.

Do you need to add an add-in or what is the trick?

/gustav



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 20 13:50:48 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:50:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
In-Reply-To: <s266b9ac.085@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20050420185057.KHVY1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Also, training goes a long way. Even the tightest validation can't take the
place of an informed user/operator. 

Susan H. 

Hi Jim

This brings back memories of past times when you had typists typing in
figures they had no clue about what so ever - reading from hand written
sheets which contained errors too.

Charlotte's comment is very precise. This is a left-over from the days where
a correction could take a week, where you typed nearly blind folded, and the
only way to get a list to check your entries was to request a print and wait
for that. Today it would be waste of time. Thus option #3.



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 20 13:50:27 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:50:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access
	2000
Message-ID: <s266c0b4.087@cactus.dk>

Hi Bob

But is it at all possible in A2000? I don't care that much if it is
"better" in later versions - it's not very difficult anyway.

/gustav

>>> bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/20 8:33 pm >>>
There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this
subject.
http://msaccessadvisor.com/ 


Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000. This
is
better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which version
of
Jet you have.



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 20 15:32:47 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:32:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F65@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <4266BC6F.4040505@shaw.ca>

Double Data entry used to be done by two separate operators even going 
back to the old IBM 029 card key punch verifiers (which didn't punch 
only read)
and the later key to disk systems. As the same operator may read a 9 as 
an 8 both times. Not to mention there were batch totals kept  i.e. 
number of sheets punched to ensure an operator didn't skip a sheet in a 
batch. Most data entry errors are caused by transposition of digits. 
Hence the use of checkdigits
for things like ISBN,VIN, credit cards and social security number (but 
not in US)
You might want to consider optical scanning unless the data is coming 
from handwriting.

Jim Hewson wrote:

>That might work.
>A tabbed form where the first data entry on tab 0 then second data entry on tab 1, compare data then save.
>I'm going to try to change their minds before we end up double data entry.
>Thanks.
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
>Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:10 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
>
>
>I favor #1 the most and #3 the least.
>
>I guess a lot of it depends on how it will be entered.  You might consider
>an unbound form where the data is entered twice and compare fields before
>writing out the data record.
>
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
>Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:52 PM
>To: AccessD
>Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
>
>
>Has anyone done this before?
>
>I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry
>of... data twice to ensure accuracy."
>I thought of three methods of doing this.
>1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare the record with
>the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second table when they match.
>2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry and compare the results
>with the table to ensure they match then delete the data. 
>3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the documents
>without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take less time and
>therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper, printing, etc.....
>
>Thoughts!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 20 15:34:48 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:34:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access	2000
References: <s266c0b4.087@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4266BCE8.4030409@shaw.ca>

It might be you have to have a full Office 2000 install for this to work 
as it was used in Word 2000 macros.

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Bob
>
>But is it at all possible in A2000? I don't care that much if it is
>"better" in later versions - it's not very difficult anyway.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/20 8:33 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this
>subject.
>http://msaccessadvisor.com/ 
>
>
>Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000. This
>is
>better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which version
>of
>Jet you have.
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Apr 20 16:03:05 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:03:05 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
References: <42660C46.22600.387B492@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <000d01c545ec$78b6ee20$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello all,

thanks for the help so far, but as Charlotte suggested, i will explain a why
i need this.

My wife works in a small firm that sells rocks. I developed in recent years
a database for them, in which they can put data about the rocks and the
clients who sell them. When the firm grew bigger, they invested in a
commercial database for administration. In this database however, i can't
change anything. Because my wife don't want to ad each new client in two
different databases. So i want to use the client table from the commercial
database, because the clientID's are identical. I don't want to use a query
from this linked table, because i then have to adjust al other query's and
other tables. Because the linked table is only used as a lookup table i want
to use it, but the name of the table and the field names are different.
Because the commercial database will give the users the possibility of using
characters an numbers in the ID field, i want to change this datatype from
text to number.

I'll hope you'll understand why i asked for the possibility of making a copy
of the linked database by code or autoexec macro, and change the name, field
name and datatype of this copy?

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


> On 19 Apr 2005 at 23:20, Pedro Janssen wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > is it possible to make a copy of the linked database by code, and change
the
> > name, field name and datatype of this copy?
> >
>
> One way would be to create a new table with the desired format either
> directly in your application database or or in a separate "backend"
> database and link to that as well as to the original table.  Then
> periodically run two queries , a delete query to clear  your new table
> followed by an Insert query of all the records from the old table into the
> new table.
>
> If there is a unique key in the old table, you can set a unique index on
> that field in the new table and forget about the delete query.
>
> Note that if you are doing this frequently, you will have to compact the
> database regularly or you will get very bad bloat.
>
>
>
>
> --
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>
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From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Apr 20 16:39:00 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:39:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F68@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

The data is coming via paper.
The database will be used to collect information from paper copies of surveys.
There are seven different surveys - color coded by a survey participant attribute (youth, parent, staff).
Participant ID and protocol have been defined by the agency.
Surveys will be paired by participant, who will take at least three surveys from different color groupings.
Statistical analysis of the surveys are the end result, hence their "need" to ensure data integrity.

Thanks,
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:33 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement


Double Data entry used to be done by two separate operators even going 
back to the old IBM 029 card key punch verifiers (which didn't punch 
only read)
and the later key to disk systems. As the same operator may read a 9 as 
an 8 both times. Not to mention there were batch totals kept  i.e. 
number of sheets punched to ensure an operator didn't skip a sheet in a 
batch. Most data entry errors are caused by transposition of digits. 
Hence the use of checkdigits
for things like ISBN,VIN, credit cards and social security number (but 
not in US)
You might want to consider optical scanning unless the data is coming 
from handwriting.

Jim Hewson wrote:

>That might work.
>A tabbed form where the first data entry on tab 0 then second data entry on tab 1, compare data then save.
>I'm going to try to change their minds before we end up double data entry.
>Thanks.
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
>Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:10 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
>
>
>I favor #1 the most and #3 the least.
>
>I guess a lot of it depends on how it will be entered.  You might consider
>an unbound form where the data is entered twice and compare fields before
>writing out the data record.
>
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
>Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:52 PM
>To: AccessD
>Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
>
>
>Has anyone done this before?
>
>I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry
>of... data twice to ensure accuracy."
>I thought of three methods of doing this.
>1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare the record with
>the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second table when they match.
>2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry and compare the results
>with the table to ensure they match then delete the data. 
>3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the documents
>without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take less time and
>therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper, printing, etc.....
>
>Thoughts!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 20 17:29:06 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:29:06 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899FA2@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <42676452.16876.249E44@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 20 Apr 2005 at 11:07, Charlotte Foust wrote:

> I've seen this kind of requirement before.  It's a holdover from the
> green screen days when operators did heads down data entry all day and
> there was little or no validation at data entry and the terminal
> keyboard was limited.  QA relied on data being entered twice to make
> sure it matched and then handling exceptions.  It doesn't make a lot of
> sense in the newer languages, and I have dealt with it in the past by
> suggesting that if the business rules were clearly defined, the data
> could be verified in code either before or after being committed.  A
> couple of problems with double entry verification are that the second
> time could be incorrect or both could be incorrect but might match.  At
> that point you have validated garbage.  This criteria is often suggested
> by people who have no clue as to how validation can be done in code or
> by the input form itself.
> 

There are  many cases where no validation can be done in code, A prime 
example being the PNG Electoral Roll where we had up to 50 operators keying 
in data from enrolment forms for months. There is no way to validate DOB, 
name etc entries other than eyeballing printouts or double entry.   

We also used double entry when recording progressive results of elections 
for updating the results website.  Those again couldn't be validated in 
code and had to be accurate when posted.

> I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry
> of... data twice to ensure accuracy." I thought of three methods of doing
> this. 1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare the
> record with the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second table when
> they match. 2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry and compare
> the results with the table to ensure they match then delete the data. 3. 
> Recommend the second person print the record and compare the documents
> without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take less time and
> therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper, printing, etc.....

Option 3 is the least accurate for a number of reasons. I'd avoid it if 
they are prepared to accept the costs of double entry.

The preferred double entry methods depends on on the situation.  

Can you have unvalidated data in your records? If so, put a flag field in 
the record and use your Option2.  Do a comparison of the results and then 
update the flag - you need to allow for modifying the record if the 
original entry is the incorrect one.

If you can't have unvalidated data, you need to store the first entry in a 
temp table until it is validated. Again, you can use an unbound form for 
the second entry, but this time instead of setting the flag, you move the 
correct(ed) data to the main table.




-- 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 20 17:32:19 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:32:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F65@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <42676513.15322.2793C6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

> 
> I guess a lot of it depends on how it will be entered.  You might consider
> an unbound form where the data is entered twice and compare fields before
> writing out the data record.
> 

Much less accurate than using two different people for the entry, 
especially if they are entering the same data a second time immediately 
after entering it the first time.   You will often get the same errors 
repeated in this situation.



-- 
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From Alun.Garraway at otto.de  Thu Apr 21 02:58:41 2005
From: Alun.Garraway at otto.de (Garraway, Alun)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:58:41 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case
Message-ID: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A0806BC@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>

hello,

is it possible to turn a string in upper-case
to upper-lower-case?

for example

"THIS IS BIG" to "This Is Big"

TIA :-)

alun


From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Thu Apr 21 03:11:57 2005
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:11:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CB8C@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

strMyString = LCase(strMyString) should do it...


HTH, cheers
Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de] 
Sent: 21 April 2005 08:59
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case

hello,

is it possible to turn a string in upper-case
to upper-lower-case?

for example

"THIS IS BIG" to "This Is Big"

TIA :-)

alun
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Thu Apr 21 03:13:20 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:13:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case
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Try this:

Dim strString As String

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Garraway, Alun
Sent: 21 April 2005 08:59
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case

hello,

is it possible to turn a string in upper-case to upper-lower-case?

for example

"THIS IS BIG" to "This Is Big"

TIA :-)

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 21 03:13:04 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:13:04 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Database models
Message-ID: <s2677cc1.094@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Sometimes you may need an example model for a project.
I located this site which could give you some ideas:

  http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/index.htm 

It does contain some real specials like:

 
http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/george_orwells_1984/index.htm

/gustav


From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Thu Apr 21 03:17:08 2005
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:17:08 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CB8D@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Alun

Sorry, I didn't read this properly, hence hasty reply.  You could split the
string into an array (Split function) and knock off the first character of
each array element.  Then add on the first letter again but capitalised,
after which you could re-join the array elements into one string (Join
function).  As far as I know, there's no function to do all this
automatically.

Cheers
Tom




-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de] 
Sent: 21 April 2005 08:59
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case

hello,

is it possible to turn a string in upper-case
to upper-lower-case?

for example

"THIS IS BIG" to "This Is Big"

TIA :-)

alun
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 21 03:19:55 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:19:55 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CB8D@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4267EECB.10683.2418815@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 21 Apr 2005 at 9:17, Tom Bolton wrote:

> Alun
> 
> Sorry, I didn't read this properly, hence hasty reply.  You could split the
> string into an array (Split function) and knock off the first character of
> each array element.  Then add on the first letter again but capitalised,
> after which you could re-join the array elements into one string (Join
> function).  As far as I know, there's no function to do all this
> automatically.
> 

StrConv Function
Returns a Variant (String) converted as specified. 

Syntax
StrConv(string, conversion, LCID)

The StrConv function syntax has these named arguments:

Part Description 
string Required. String expression to be converted. 

conversion Required. Integer. The sum of values specifying the type of 
conversion to perform. 

LCID Optional. The LocaleID, if different than the system LocaleID. (The 
system LocaleID is the default.) 

Settings

The conversion argument settings are:
Constant Value Description 
vbUpperCase 1 Converts the string to uppercase characters. 
vbLowerCase 2 Converts the string to lowercase characters. 
vbProperCase 3 Converts the first letter of every word in string to 
uppercase. 
vbWide* 4* Converts narrow (single-byte) characters in string to wide 
(double-byte) characters. 
vbNarrow* 8* Converts wide (double-byte) characters in string to narrow 
(single-byte) characters. 
vbKatakana** 16** Converts Hiragana characters in string to Katakana 
characters. 
vbHiragana** 32** Converts Katakana characters in string to Hiragana 
characters. 
vbUnicode 64 Converts the string to Unicode using the default code page of 
the system. (Not available on the Macintosh.) 
vbFromUnicode 128 Converts the string from Unicode to the default code page 
of the system. (Not available on the Macintosh.) 

-- 
Stuart




From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Thu Apr 21 03:32:18 2005
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:32:18 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CB8E@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Yep, got you now.  Live and learn...



-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: 21 April 2005 09:20
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case

On 21 Apr 2005 at 9:17, Tom Bolton wrote:

> Alun
> 
> Sorry, I didn't read this properly, hence hasty reply.  You could split
the
> string into an array (Split function) and knock off the first character of
> each array element.  Then add on the first letter again but capitalised,
> after which you could re-join the array elements into one string (Join
> function).  As far as I know, there's no function to do all this
> automatically.
> 

StrConv Function
Returns a Variant (String) converted as specified. 

Syntax
StrConv(string, conversion, LCID)

The StrConv function syntax has these named arguments:

Part Description 
string Required. String expression to be converted. 

conversion Required. Integer. The sum of values specifying the type of 
conversion to perform. 

LCID Optional. The LocaleID, if different than the system LocaleID. (The 
system LocaleID is the default.) 

Settings

The conversion argument settings are:
Constant Value Description 
vbUpperCase 1 Converts the string to uppercase characters. 
vbLowerCase 2 Converts the string to lowercase characters. 
vbProperCase 3 Converts the first letter of every word in string to 
uppercase. 
vbWide* 4* Converts narrow (single-byte) characters in string to wide 
(double-byte) characters. 
vbNarrow* 8* Converts wide (double-byte) characters in string to narrow 
(single-byte) characters. 
vbKatakana** 16** Converts Hiragana characters in string to Katakana 
characters. 
vbHiragana** 32** Converts Katakana characters in string to Hiragana 
characters. 
vbUnicode 64 Converts the string to Unicode using the default code page of 
the system. (Not available on the Macintosh.) 
vbFromUnicode 128 Converts the string from Unicode to the default code page 
of the system. (Not available on the Macintosh.) 

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Apr 21 03:50:38 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:50:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
Message-ID: <200504210840.j3L8e9G26516@smarthost.yourcomms.net>


I too would be interested - there is lots of code samples/general .net
out there but nothing with the same 'personal touch' of this group.
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Les Dunn
Sent: 20 April 2005 01:56
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group


I too have some .NET applications that I would like to make available on
the 
net. I have posted questions to some of the various 
microsoft.public.dotnet... forums but have not received any quality
replies 
that have even come close to answering my questions. I would be
interested 
in hearing about any other alternative forums.
...Les

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Emerson" <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:45 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group


> It looks like I need to start working with Visual Studio.net to web 
> enable
> some of my applications.
>
> Does anyone know of a good user group like this one, or are there 
> enough
> of us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?
>
> Regards
>
> David Emerson
> Dalyn Software Ltd
> 25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
> Wellington, New Zealand
> Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
> Mobile 027-280-9348
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 21 03:48:46 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:48:46 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in
	Access	2000
Message-ID: <s2678531.097@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

I do have a full install of Office 2000 Professional.
Excel and Word offers digital signing, but Access is a no go.

/gustav

>>> martyconnelly at shaw.ca 04/20 10:34 pm >>>
It might be you have to have a full Office 2000 install for this to
work 
as it was used in Word 2000 macros.

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Bob
>
>But is it at all possible in A2000? I don't care that much if it is
>"better" in later versions - it's not very difficult anyway.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/20 8:33 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this
>subject.
>http://msaccessadvisor.com/ 
>
>
>Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000.
This
>is better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which
version
>of Jet you have.

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From Alun.Garraway at otto.de  Thu Apr 21 04:14:25 2005
From: Alun.Garraway at otto.de (Garraway, Alun)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:14:25 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case
Message-ID: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A017275CA@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>

<Live and learn...>

oh yes! 

thanks for all the quick (and good) replies,
this is the place!
:-)

alun

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Tom Bolton
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case


Yep, got you now.  Live and learn...



-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: 21 April 2005 09:20
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case

On 21 Apr 2005 at 9:17, Tom Bolton wrote:

> Alun
> 
> Sorry, I didn't read this properly, hence hasty reply.  You could split
the
> string into an array (Split function) and knock off the first character of
> each array element.  Then add on the first letter again but capitalised,
> after which you could re-join the array elements into one string (Join
> function).  As far as I know, there's no function to do all this
> automatically.
> 

StrConv Function
Returns a Variant (String) converted as specified. 

Syntax
StrConv(string, conversion, LCID)

The StrConv function syntax has these named arguments:

Part Description 
string Required. String expression to be converted. 

conversion Required. Integer. The sum of values specifying the type of 
conversion to perform. 

LCID Optional. The LocaleID, if different than the system LocaleID. (The 
system LocaleID is the default.) 

Settings

The conversion argument settings are:
Constant Value Description 
vbUpperCase 1 Converts the string to uppercase characters. 
vbLowerCase 2 Converts the string to lowercase characters. 
vbProperCase 3 Converts the first letter of every word in string to 
uppercase. 
vbWide* 4* Converts narrow (single-byte) characters in string to wide 
(double-byte) characters. 
vbNarrow* 8* Converts wide (double-byte) characters in string to narrow 
(single-byte) characters. 
vbKatakana** 16** Converts Hiragana characters in string to Katakana 
characters. 
vbHiragana** 32** Converts Katakana characters in string to Hiragana 
characters. 
vbUnicode 64 Converts the string to Unicode using the default code page of 
the system. (Not available on the Macintosh.) 
vbFromUnicode 128 Converts the string from Unicode to the default code page 
of the system. (Not available on the Macintosh.) 

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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Thu Apr 21 04:31:24 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:31:24 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Database models
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C6A7@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>


Thanks for that Gustav!

Some interesting ideas there.

Regards
Chris Foote - UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:13 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Database models
> 
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Sometimes you may need an example model for a project.
> I located this site which could give you some ideas:
> 
>   http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/index.htm 
> 
> It does contain some real specials like:
> 
>  
> http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/george_orwells_1984
> /index.htm


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr 21 10:18:11 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:18:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
Message-ID: <000601c54685$57cbdce0$0600a8c0@ColbyM6805>

I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I can
do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
laptop.

I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP address.
I set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running.
I set up the firewall to do port forwarding to her machine
I run the client on my laptop and attempt to connect to her machine.  

I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client runs,
doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login screen,
nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I try to
start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC viewer
opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it again,
and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy opens,
displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my client.
Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server on
her machine.  

I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been in
place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in to
her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host" kind of
message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to the
web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her router,
and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in itself
is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but
I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her
end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently connects
but will not display.

Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find these
symptoms on Google but come up empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/




From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Apr 21 11:29:10 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:29:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 Runtime Directory
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F718@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

When creating a runtime version of my application, the program forces
the designation of a folder in which the application will be installed
for the user.  I want to be able to designate my own folder, like
c:\NIOSH.  The app is forcing c:\Program Files\ and other rooty places.

What if the user installing the package does not have permissions to add
a folder to their program files directory?  Will this program create the
folder designated, for instance: c:\Program Files\NIOSH\ <appname>

Is there a way I can tell the app to install on a directory of my
choice, like c:\NIOSH?  Overall, I like the deployment wizard except for
this question.

Thanks.  Tomorrow is Friday, Joke Day.  Be Prepared.


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Apr 21 11:38:07 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:38:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B7B98F@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA39@ADGSERVER>

Stupid question, but is it possible the in addition to Sygate running, that
the MS firewall is also running?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:18 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I can
do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
laptop.

I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP address. I
set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running. I set up the
firewall to do port forwarding to her machine I run the client on my laptop
and attempt to connect to her machine.  

I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client runs,
doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login screen,
nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I try to
start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC viewer
opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it again,
and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy opens,
displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my client.
Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server on
her machine.  

I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been in
place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in to
her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host" kind of
message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to the
web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her router,
and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in itself
is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but
I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her
end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently connects
but will not display.

Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find these
symptoms on Google but come up empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr 21 11:45:33 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:45:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA39@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <000b01c54691$8ca73de0$0600a8c0@ColbyM6805>

Good thought but nope, definitely turned off on both machines.  In general
if ANY firewall interferes a message is generated by the VNC client saying
it can't connect.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:38 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


Stupid question, but is it possible the in addition to Sygate running, that
the MS firewall is also running?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:18 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I can
do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
laptop.

I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP address. I
set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running. I set up the
firewall to do port forwarding to her machine I run the client on my laptop
and attempt to connect to her machine.  

I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client runs,
doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login screen,
nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I try to
start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC viewer
opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it again,
and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy opens,
displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my client.
Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server on
her machine.  

I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been in
place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in to
her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host" kind of
message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to the
web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her router,
and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in itself
is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but
I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her
end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently connects
but will not display.

Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find these
symptoms on Google but come up empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Thu Apr 21 12:13:55 2005
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:13:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Change data in a linked SQL Server table
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E04151829@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I am using AccessXP.  I used to be able to link to a SQL Server table and
change the data in it (Access2000).  No can do now.  Any suggestions?  

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Thu Apr 21 12:16:42 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:16:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Change data in a linked SQL Server table
Message-ID: <200504211717.j3LHH7A17989@databaseadvisors.com>

Could it be missing an index and is therefor un-updateable?

>>> Susan.Klos at fldoe.org 4/21/2005 1:13:55 PM >>>
I am using AccessXP.  I used to be able to link to a SQL Server table
and
change the data in it (Access2000).  No can do now.  Any suggestions? 


 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 

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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Thu Apr 21 12:30:46 2005
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:30:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Outlook from Access - what does Exchange Admin have to do
	-xpost
In-Reply-To: <000601c54685$57cbdce0$0600a8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <003901c54697$de27e650$0700a8c0@CONKEY2000>

Users are in Office XP and want email from my Access app.  I remember
reading that, to by-pass the security warnings, besides Redemption and
CLickYes (which are client based), that the Exchange admin can "allow"
applications at the server to send mail. I would prefer this method.

As we are both off-site, how do I make this request so that it makes
sense to him without me being there? (Eg, "Allow my app to Send Mail
from Security Settings in WHAT IS IT" or "Go into BLAH, click YADA,
un-check STUFF"). Not even sure, does he allow Msaccess.exe or
MyApp.mdb/e?

TIA,
Steve





From max at sherman.org.uk  Thu Apr 21 13:48:00 2005
From: max at sherman.org.uk (accessd)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:48:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
In-Reply-To: <000601c54685$57cbdce0$0600a8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050421184756.SJFB10174.aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@server>

Hi John,
If both computers are running XP then check out "remote assistance" in
Windows Help. 
Regards
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 21 April 2005 16:18
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display

I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I can
do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
laptop.

I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP address.
I set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running.
I set up the firewall to do port forwarding to her machine I run the client
on my laptop and attempt to connect to her machine.  

I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client runs,
doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login screen,
nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I try to
start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC viewer
opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it again,
and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy opens,
displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my client.
Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server on
her machine.  

I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been in
place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in to
her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host" kind of
message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to the
web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her router,
and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in itself
is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but
I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her
end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently connects
but will not display.

Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find these
symptoms on Google but come up empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr 21 14:06:13 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:06:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
In-Reply-To: <20050421184756.SJFB10174.aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@server>
Message-ID: <000c01c546a5$33196e60$0600a8c0@ColbyM6805>

You know, I tried this.  What a mess it was.  Have you ever managed to get
it to work?  It appears to use Messenger to notify the remote computer that
assistance was needed, which never successfully connected.  Also I think
that this requires someone to "request" assistance.  I need to be able to
get in any time of day or night.

The price for an upgrade to WinXP Pro is pretty steep but in the end I may
need to have her do that.  Then I can just do remote desktop.  Of course if
I can't get that to work for some reason, after spending $120 for the
upgrade.....

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of accessd
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:48 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


Hi John,
If both computers are running XP then check out "remote assistance" in
Windows Help. 
Regards
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 21 April 2005 16:18
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display

I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I can
do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
laptop.

I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP address. I
set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running. I set up the
firewall to do port forwarding to her machine I run the client on my laptop
and attempt to connect to her machine.  

I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client runs,
doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login screen,
nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I try to
start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC viewer
opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it again,
and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy opens,
displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my client.
Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server on
her machine.  

I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been in
place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in to
her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host" kind of
message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to the
web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her router,
and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in itself
is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but
I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her
end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently connects
but will not display.

Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find these
symptoms on Google but come up empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Thu Apr 21 14:42:50 2005
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:42:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Database models
In-Reply-To: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C6A7@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <003f01c546aa$4e08ee80$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


I don't think they are a very good database modeling agency -- I sent them
photos of myself in a swimsuit, and I never heard back. I don't understand
how they could reject a fine slab of geek flesh like me. Those young SQL
Server vixens must be getting all the exposure.

Leering older programmer to young woman:
    "Would you like to learn data modeling?"
Young woman:
    "No, but I'd like to date a model!"

Sorry -- my jokes are a day early ;)

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Foote, Chris [mailto:Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 4:31 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Database models



Thanks for that Gustav!

Some interesting ideas there.

Regards
Chris Foote - UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:13 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Database models
>
>
> Hi all
>
> Sometimes you may need an example model for a project.
> I located this site which could give you some ideas:
>
>   http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/index.htm
>
> It does contain some real specials like:
>
>
> http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/george_orwells_1984
> /index.htm





From Robert at servicexp.com  Thu Apr 21 16:24:59 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:24:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
Message-ID: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4E70@gbsserver.GBS.local>

John,
 I have used it many time without any problems. Works VERY well. Its
under "Accessories >> Communications then Remote Desktop connection. You
need to have your sister set "Allow users to connect remotely to this
computer" in system properties on the remote tab.

Robert Gracie

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 3:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display

You know, I tried this.  What a mess it was.  Have you ever managed to
get it to work?  It appears to use Messenger to notify the remote
computer that assistance was needed, which never successfully connected.
Also I think that this requires someone to "request" assistance.  I need
to be able to get in any time of day or night.

The price for an upgrade to WinXP Pro is pretty steep but in the end I
may need to have her do that.  Then I can just do remote desktop.  Of
course if I can't get that to work for some reason, after spending $120
for the upgrade.....

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of accessd
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:48 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


Hi John,
If both computers are running XP then check out "remote assistance" in
Windows Help. 
Regards
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 21 April 2005 16:18
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display

I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I
can do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on
my laptop.

I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP
address. I set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running.
I set up the firewall to do port forwarding to her machine I run the
client on my laptop and attempt to connect to her machine.  

I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client
runs, doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login
screen, nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC
Client is running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.
If I try to start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of
the VNC viewer opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If
I run it again, and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time,
ANOTHER copy opens, displays the login screen, and allows me access to
the desktop of my client.
Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server
on her machine.  

I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been
in place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log
in to her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the
host" kind of message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are
getting out to the web, through the No-IP translation, back to her
router, THROUGH her router, and are blocked by Sygate if it is running
on her machine.  That in itself is the other problem since I have
VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but I need to tackle one problem
at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her end and then the VNC
client I am trying to connect just silently connects but will not
display.

Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find
these symptoms on Google but come up empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr 21 18:59:42 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:59:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] FW: A2003:Size of an Email String SOLVED
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901407D98@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Thanks Erwin 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
IT Helps
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2005 6:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: A2003:Size of an Email String SOLVED

Please note that the SMTP server that you will use will probably deny
that quantity of adresses in 1 mail.

It really depends on who manages your SMTP server, some limit to 50
adresses some 999.

Please check with your company IT manager if you have your own SMTP
server or with your internet provider if one used from the ISP.

Erwin

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] FW: A2003:Size of an Email String SOLVED

Hello all
Never mind
Found the answer at...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;149217

See ya

DD



-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Dick
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2005 4:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: A2003:Size of an Email String

Hello all
I am building a string of email addresses to include in the BCC field of
an outlook email message

I have discovered if I have about 400 recipients then the email ends up
in my drafts folder ready to go With a big long BCC string - So far so
good - The string length of all the emails is about 6000 characters
~+or- When there is approx 400 Email addresses

But as soon as I get above that (Say 500 or even 1,100 email addresses)
the email does not appear in the drafts folder The string length with
1100 email addresses is about 24,000 characters ~+or-

I am thinking there is some limit to the number of characters in
Outlook's BCC field Does anyone know about this?
Or can anyone point me in the direction of an answer?

Many thanks

Darren
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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr 21 19:05:08 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:05:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Size of an Email String
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901407D9E@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Stuart
Thanks (again) for the reply
Firstly, what's RFC 2821?

Anyway...It seems to be up and working now
I have given my users 2 methods to send emails - depending on what they
want to do.
Method 1 uses redemption and loops through a recordset and produces an
email for each recipient.
The second method doesn't use redemption and just creates a big long BCC
string

Re your comment on a FAN-OUT - have you done this before? If so, how
have you done it?

RE BLAT - Thanks for the offer -  I will contact you off list about Blat
:-))

Many thanks 

Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2005 8:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:Size of an Email String

On 18 Apr 2005 at 16:28, Darren Dick wrote:

> 
> I have discovered if I have about 400 recipients then the email ends 
> up in my drafts folder ready to go With a big long BCC string - So far

> so good - The string length of all the emails is about 6000 characters

> ~+or- When there is approx 400 Email addresses
> 
> But as soon as I get above that (Say 500 or even 1,100 email 
> addresses) the email does not appear in the drafts folder

Note that RFC 2821 only requires a server to accept 100 recipients.  If
your list is greater than that, it is quite possible that only the first
100 will be accepted/delivered by your mail server. Some ISPs are also
imposing limits below this, in contravention of the RFC, to try to
control spam runs.

You have a couple of options, one is to send the email with only 100
recipients each time (a so called "fan-out"). The other is to build your
messages and send them one at a time by shelling out to a command line
mailer such as Blat.  I've got a couple of Access apps that use Blat to
send out 2-3000 emails.

If you want more info on using Blat with Access, contact me off-list.





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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 21 19:31:07 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:31:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Size of an Email String
In-Reply-To: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901407D9E@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <4268D26B.23301.5BAB04A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 22 Apr 2005 at 10:05, Darren Dick wrote:

> Hi Stuart
> Thanks (again) for the reply
> Firstly, what's RFC 2821?
> 

RFC = Request For Comments. The name of the result and the process for 
creating a standard on the Internet. New standards are proposed and 
published on line, as a "Request For Comments." The Internet Engineering 
Task Force is a consensus-building body that facilitates discussion, and 
eventually a new standard is established, but the reference number/name for 
the standard retains the acronym RFC

See http://www.rfc.net/

As for RFC 2821:
<quote>
Network Working Group                                 J. Klensin, Editor
Request for Comments: 2821                             AT&T Laboratories
Obsoletes: 821, 974, 1869                                     April 2001
Updates: 1123
Category: Standards Track


                     Simple Mail Transfer Protocol

Status of this Memo

   This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the
   Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for
   improvements.  Please refer to the current edition of the "Internet
   Official Protocol Standards" (STD 1) for the standardization state
   and status of this protocol.  Distribution of this memo is unlimited.

Copyright Notice

   Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2001).  All Rights Reserved.

Abstract

   This document is a self-contained specification of the basic protocol
   for the Internet electronic mail transport.  It consolidates, updates
   and clarifies, but doesn't add new or change existing functionality
   of the following:

   -  the original SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) specification of
      RFC 821 [30],

   -  domain name system requirements and implications for mail
      transport from RFC 1035 [22] and RFC 974 [27],

   -  the clarifications and applicability statements in RFC 1123 [2],
      and

   -  material drawn from the SMTP Extension mechanisms [19].

   It obsoletes RFC 821, RFC 974, and updates RFC 1123 (replaces the
   mail transport materials of RFC 1123).  However, RFC 821 specifies
   some features that were not in significant use in the Internet by the
   mid-1990s and (in appendices) some additional transport models.
   Those sections are omitted here in the interest of clarity and
   brevity; readers needing them should refer to RFC 821.
</quote>

You really should be familiar with the relevant RFCs if you are 
programmatically accessing internet services be they ftp, http, email or 
whatever.



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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Apr 21 20:04:32 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:04:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
References: <000601c54685$57cbdce0$0600a8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <003701c546d7$3f0bfb70$6401a8c0@user>

John - I struggled getting VNC working for some clients (and I still haven't succeeeded with some) but for most I just had to permit VNC through their  firewall, which you've done and then on my PC completely shut down ZoneAlarm to let it through. For now shut down ALL firewalls (as opposed to just changing the settings) to see if that is the problem.

If that isn't any help then I would go to http://www.realvnc.com/lists.html and subscribe to their VNC forum so that you can then post a question - I have found them quote helpful.

HTH
Kath


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John W. Colby 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:18 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


  I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I can
  do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
  laptop.

  I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP address.
  I set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running.
  I set up the firewall to do port forwarding to her machine
  I run the client on my laptop and attempt to connect to her machine.  

  I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client runs,
  doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login screen,
  nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
  running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I try to
  start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC viewer
  opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it again,
  and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy opens,
  displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my client.
  Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server on
  her machine.  

  I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been in
  place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in to
  her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host" kind of
  message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to the
  web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her router,
  and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in itself
  is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but
  I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her
  end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently connects
  but will not display.

  Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find these
  symptoms on Google but come up empty.

  John W. Colby
  www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From max at sherman.org.uk  Thu Apr 21 21:30:36 2005
From: max at sherman.org.uk (accessd)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:30:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
In-Reply-To: <000c01c546a5$33196e60$0600a8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050422023030.IKRN10174.aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@server>

Hi John,
I have only used it once and yes, it does us MSN Messenger and appeared to
be working ok.  The other replies to you seem to suggest it is the firewalls
and this might be why it is not working ok on Remote Assistance as well.
What I would do is to do a "System Restore" backup on both pcs and then turn
off all fire-walling and try again.  You would be vulnerable for a few
minutes but it would at least identify where the problem lies.  Like another
respondee, I also had a lot of firewall problems with Zone Alarm and finally
stopped using it.  I also had problems with VNC and Real VNC and stopped
using them as well.
Good luck
Max 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 21 April 2005 20:06
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display

You know, I tried this.  What a mess it was.  Have you ever managed to get
it to work?  It appears to use Messenger to notify the remote computer that
assistance was needed, which never successfully connected.  Also I think
that this requires someone to "request" assistance.  I need to be able to
get in any time of day or night.

The price for an upgrade to WinXP Pro is pretty steep but in the end I may
need to have her do that.  Then I can just do remote desktop.  Of course if
I can't get that to work for some reason, after spending $120 for the
upgrade.....

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of accessd
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:48 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


Hi John,
If both computers are running XP then check out "remote assistance" in
Windows Help. 
Regards
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 21 April 2005 16:18
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display

I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I can
do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
laptop.

I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP address. I
set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running. I set up the
firewall to do port forwarding to her machine I run the client on my laptop
and attempt to connect to her machine.  

I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client runs,
doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login screen,
nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I try to
start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC viewer
opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it again,
and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy opens,
displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my client.
Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server on
her machine.  

I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been in
place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in to
her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host" kind of
message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to the
web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her router,
and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in itself
is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but
I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her
end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently connects
but will not display.

Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find these
symptoms on Google but come up empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr 21 21:31:08 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:31:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Size of an Email String
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901407EB8@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Brilliant - love this stuff - thanks again

Talk soon

D
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Friday, 22 April 2005 10:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003:Size of an Email String

On 22 Apr 2005 at 10:05, Darren Dick wrote:

> Hi Stuart
> Thanks (again) for the reply
> Firstly, what's RFC 2821?
> 

RFC = Request For Comments. The name of the result and the process for
creating a standard on the Internet. New standards are proposed and
published on line, as a "Request For Comments." The Internet Engineering
Task Force is a consensus-building body that facilitates discussion, and
eventually a new standard is established, but the reference number/name
for the standard retains the acronym RFC

See http://www.rfc.net/

As for RFC 2821:
<quote>
Network Working Group                                 J. Klensin, Editor
Request for Comments: 2821                             AT&T Laboratories
Obsoletes: 821, 974, 1869                                     April 2001
Updates: 1123
Category: Standards Track


                     Simple Mail Transfer Protocol

Status of this Memo

   This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the
   Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for
   improvements.  Please refer to the current edition of the "Internet
   Official Protocol Standards" (STD 1) for the standardization state
   and status of this protocol.  Distribution of this memo is unlimited.

Copyright Notice

   Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2001).  All Rights Reserved.

Abstract

   This document is a self-contained specification of the basic protocol
   for the Internet electronic mail transport.  It consolidates, updates
   and clarifies, but doesn't add new or change existing functionality
   of the following:

   -  the original SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) specification of
      RFC 821 [30],

   -  domain name system requirements and implications for mail
      transport from RFC 1035 [22] and RFC 974 [27],

   -  the clarifications and applicability statements in RFC 1123 [2],
      and

   -  material drawn from the SMTP Extension mechanisms [19].

   It obsoletes RFC 821, RFC 974, and updates RFC 1123 (replaces the
   mail transport materials of RFC 1123).  However, RFC 821 specifies
   some features that were not in significant use in the Internet by the
   mid-1990s and (in appendices) some additional transport models.
   Those sections are omitted here in the interest of clarity and
   brevity; readers needing them should refer to RFC 821.
</quote>

You really should be familiar with the relevant RFCs if you are
programmatically accessing internet services be they ftp, http, email or
whatever.



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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr 21 22:09:06 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:09:06 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901407EF0@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi all
I appreciate this is way OT :-))

If I hold down ALT and Type 0489 in MS Access I get the French E with the little thingo above it (?)
If I do it in Word (Or even in Outlook) I get ?

What is the Correct key stokes in Word to get ?

Many thanks in advance

Darren



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 21 22:47:40 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:47:40 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
In-Reply-To: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901407EF0@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <4269007C.10494.485C0C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 22 Apr 2005 at 13:09, Darren Dick wrote:

> Hi all
> I appreciate this is way OT :-))
> 
> If I hold down ALT and Type 0489 in MS Access I get the French E with the little thingo above it (?)
> If I do it in Word (Or even in Outlook) I get 
> 
> What is the Correct key stokes in Word to get ?
> 

Try  Alt+0233 for lower case or ALt+0201 for uppercase,

 You could have answered this yourself if you had grabbed a copy of the 
Extended Character Map that I recommended the other day:

<quote>
A great little tool for answering this sort of question quickly is the 
Pricelessware (http://www.pricelesswar.org) recommended utility:

Extended Character Map
(Freeware)
Windows OS: Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000
Languages: English
Description: Extended Character Map is like the Windows Character Map 
utility but uses much bigger, easier-to-see characters. The utility is 
especially useful for viewing the pictures in a symbol or Dingbat font. 
Characters can be seen up to 100pt size. No more squinting at Webding 
characters trying to figure out "is that a race car or a textile factory?". 

The keystroke name is displayed in the program's status bar. The 
Decimal/Hex/Oct/Binary values are also displayed. Additionally, you can 
view the fonts with one or more attributes selected (Bold, Italic, 
Underline, Strikeout). Using ExtendedCharacterMap, any character or series 
of characters can be quickly copied to the clipboard.
Company: -- Author: Sony Arianto Kurniawan

Program description:
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6166,00.asp

download v 1.41 (extended.zip) (189 KB)
http://ftp.pcworld.com/pub/new/desktop/fonts/extended.zip 

</quote>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 21 23:12:02 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:12:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
References: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901407EF0@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <42687992.8050809@shaw.ca>

In Word press  Ctrl and '  then press Shift E  It is an E acute or 201 
decimal in extended Ansi
To see the lot of keyboard shortcuts in Word Menu Insert--> Symbol and 
probably select Arial it has full unicode symbols
there is a current controversy among the French
concerning whether one should put accents on capital letters, and that
whether those letters are majuscules or capitales  makes a
difference (this is suggested in the excerpt from le Bon Usage  there
are other people making stronger arguments based upon the same
principle).

  Majuscules = handwritten capital letters
    Capitales  = printed or typed capital letters

My head hurts on this one.  I am a t?te carr?.


Darren Dick wrote:

>Hi all
>I appreciate this is way OT :-))
>
>If I hold down ALT and Type 0489 in MS Access I get the French E with the little thingo above it (?)
>If I do it in Word (Or even in Outlook) I get ?
>
>What is the Correct key stokes in Word to get ?
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren
>
>  
>

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Canada





From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Fri Apr 22 07:38:56 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:38:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F284@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

Your link to Pricelessware is broken. It should be http://www.pricelessware.org

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters


On 22 Apr 2005 at 13:09, Darren Dick wrote:

> Hi all
> I appreciate this is way OT :-))
> 
> If I hold down ALT and Type 0489 in MS Access I get the French E with the little thingo above it (?)
> If I do it in Word (Or even in Outlook) I get 
> 
> What is the Correct key stokes in Word to get ?
> 

Try  Alt+0233 for lower case or ALt+0201 for uppercase,

 You could have answered this yourself if you had grabbed a copy of the 
Extended Character Map that I recommended the other day:

<quote>
A great little tool for answering this sort of question quickly is the 
Pricelessware (http://www.pricelesswar.org) recommended utility:

Extended Character Map
(Freeware)
Windows OS: Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000
Languages: English
Description: Extended Character Map is like the Windows Character Map 
utility but uses much bigger, easier-to-see characters. The utility is 
especially useful for viewing the pictures in a symbol or Dingbat font. 
Characters can be seen up to 100pt size. No more squinting at Webding 
characters trying to figure out "is that a race car or a textile factory?". 

The keystroke name is displayed in the program's status bar. The 
Decimal/Hex/Oct/Binary values are also displayed. Additionally, you can 
view the fonts with one or more attributes selected (Bold, Italic, 
Underline, Strikeout). Using ExtendedCharacterMap, any character or series 
of characters can be quickly copied to the clipboard.
Company: -- Author: Sony Arianto Kurniawan

Program description:
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6166,00.asp

download v 1.41 (extended.zip) (189 KB)
http://ftp.pcworld.com/pub/new/desktop/fonts/extended.zip 

</quote>
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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Fri Apr 22 07:54:02 2005
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:54:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE03AC48@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

I just wanted to add, I stumbled upon logmein which is a web based
remote tool.  There is the free version which will do everything you
would want to do to support a single computer.  There is also the paid
version (more bells and whistles and allows for more connections/users),
however for a single computer the free one will do just fine.
https://secure.logmein.com/go.asp?page=products_free It is web based so
you can take over a computer from anywhere by going to the website,
logging in and seeing a list of the computers you support then simply
take it over using the browser.

I tested it from home to work and vice versa, with Syagte firewall on
both machines.  It worked very easily.  Again I only did 1 test with it,
as my company got the VPN working therefore didn't need it so I don't
have any working knowledge of performance and such.  To my knowledge
there are not any Trojans, adware, or spyware involved.. 

Maybe someone on this list can add any experiences they've had with this
tool as I think John would be interested as would I and potentially
others as well.  

Rich 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


John - I struggled getting VNC working for some clients (and I still
haven't succeeeded with some) but for most I just had to permit VNC
through their  firewall, which you've done and then on my PC completely
shut down ZoneAlarm to let it through. For now shut down ALL firewalls
(as opposed to just changing the settings) to see if that is the
problem.

If that isn't any help then I would go to
http://www.realvnc.com/lists.html and subscribe to their VNC forum so
that you can then post a question - I have found them quote helpful.

HTH
Kath


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John W. Colby 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:18 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


  I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that
I can
  do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
  laptop.

  I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP
address.
  I set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running.
  I set up the firewall to do port forwarding to her machine
  I run the client on my laptop and attempt to connect to her machine.  

  I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client
runs,
  doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login
screen,
  nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
  running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I
try to
  start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC
viewer
  opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it
again,
  and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy
opens,
  displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my
client.
  Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the
server on
  her machine.  

  I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has
been in
  place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in
to
  her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host"
kind of
  message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to
the
  web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her
router,
  and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in
itself
  is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as
"allowed", but
  I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router
on her
  end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently
connects
  but will not display.

  Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find
these
  symptoms on Google but come up empty.

  John W. Colby
  www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Apr 22 08:05:53 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:05:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B7BABA@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA44@ADGSERVER>

Max,

I have used TightVNC to connect to my home PC from work  for about 6 months
now.  What kind of problems were you having?

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of accessd
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


Hi John,
I have only used it once and yes, it does us MSN Messenger and appeared to
be working ok.  The other replies to you seem to suggest it is the firewalls
and this might be why it is not working ok on Remote Assistance as well.
What I would do is to do a "System Restore" backup on both pcs and then turn
off all fire-walling and try again.  You would be vulnerable for a few
minutes but it would at least identify where the problem lies.  Like another
respondee, I also had a lot of firewall problems with Zone Alarm and finally
stopped using it.  I also had problems with VNC and Real VNC and stopped
using them as well. Good luck Max 



From pennwhite at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 22 08:30:42 2005
From: pennwhite at hotmail.com (Penn White)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:30:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F284@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <BAY107-DAV12D414832B690FBCEA6365BD2D0@phx.gbl>

This also might work:

http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6166,00.asp

Penn

> Your link to Pricelessware is broken. It should be 
> http://www.pricelessware.org


From jmhla at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 22 10:46:19 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:46:19 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Going away for a few days
Message-ID: <200504221546.j3MFkDA01289@databaseadvisors.com>

I need to be with out isp  for a few days to make a dsl switch.

 

Watch for me to return with a new address soon.

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 22 16:28:49 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:28:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in	Access	2000
References: <s2678531.097@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <42696C91.9000201@shaw.ca>

I don't know unless something is buried on the CD, look for something 
like makecert
 or maybe it is accessed from a project menu.


Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Marty
>
>I do have a full install of Office 2000 Professional.
>Excel and Word offers digital signing, but Access is a no go.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>martyconnelly at shaw.ca 04/20 10:34 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>It might be you have to have a full Office 2000 install for this to
>work 
>as it was used in Word 2000 macros.
>
>Gustav Brock wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi Bob
>>
>>But is it at all possible in A2000? I don't care that much if it is
>>"better" in later versions - it's not very difficult anyway.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/20 8:33 pm >>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this
>>subject.
>>http://msaccessadvisor.com/ 
>>
>>
>>Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000.
>>    
>>
>This
>  
>
>>is better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which
>>    
>>
>version
>  
>
>>of Jet you have.
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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Canada





From pennwhite at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 22 16:53:37 2005
From: pennwhite at hotmail.com (Penn White)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:53:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Set control to 'edit' in VBA?
Message-ID: <BAY107-DAV14DEA8C5E0846AA8D5DEECBD2D0@phx.gbl>

Does anyone know of a way to send a user back to a control and have it 
already be in Edit Mode (F2) when they get there?

I can send the user back using Me!MyControl.SetFocus but then the field is 
entirely highlighted and if they type anything before hitting F2 then the 
entire highlighted data will be replaced by the new character(s).

I'm using it in a custom validation routine for phone numbers.  If they type 
in an incorrect number of numbers or start with a '1' or enter illegal alpha 
or extended characters, it pops up a message telling them to try again. 
Before checking the number for length, all the extraneous characters (like 
( or ) or - or " ") are stripped and then if it is a valid 10 character 
integer, it is reformatted to a standard format.  This is done in the OnExit 
event because sometimes the phone numbers are cut and pasted from somewhere 
else and this does not trigger the AfterUpdate event.  There may be a better 
way to do this but this is the one I've come up with so far.

I believe I saw somewhere that there is a way to do this globally for the 
entire database but I'd rather just have it apply as I need it.  Generally, 
I find it's good to have everything highlighted when you enter a control.

Thank you,

Penn 


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Apr 22 18:19:55 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:19:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Set control to 'edit' in VBA?
In-Reply-To: <2555731.1114207032782.JavaMail.root@sniper17>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA+IT7T2MtvU2ycn9dOj0aRAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Penn,

You can make a global change by going to Tools|Options, selecting the
Keyboard tab, and making the appropriate choice under Behavior Entering
Field.

To select all the text in a field regardless of the choice from above you
can do this in the field's Enter event:

    txtPhoneNumber.SelStart = 0
    txtPhoneNumber.SelLength = Len(txtPhoneNumber)


HTH,
Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Penn White
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Set control to 'edit' in VBA?

Does anyone know of a way to send a user back to a control and have it 
already be in Edit Mode (F2) when they get there?

I can send the user back using Me!MyControl.SetFocus but then the field is 
entirely highlighted and if they type anything before hitting F2 then the 
entire highlighted data will be replaced by the new character(s).

I'm using it in a custom validation routine for phone numbers.  If they type

in an incorrect number of numbers or start with a '1' or enter illegal alpha

or extended characters, it pops up a message telling them to try again. 
Before checking the number for length, all the extraneous characters (like 
( or ) or - or " ") are stripped and then if it is a valid 10 character 
integer, it is reformatted to a standard format.  This is done in the OnExit

event because sometimes the phone numbers are cut and pasted from somewhere 
else and this does not trigger the AfterUpdate event.  There may be a better

way to do this but this is the one I've come up with so far.

I believe I saw somewhere that there is a way to do this globally for the 
entire database but I'd rather just have it apply as I need it.  Generally, 
I find it's good to have everything highlighted when you enter a control.

Thank you,

Penn 
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Apr 23 10:18:02 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:18:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAfDY69YBUqEOoTah9AOZkNAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

To All,

 

Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought up
the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept is
that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

 

This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which is
actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
old way of doing business.  

 

I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular income
stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might be
easier to get into.

 

Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
method?

 

 

Dan Waters

 



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Apr 23 10:38:13 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:38:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAfDY69YBUqEOoTah9AOZkNAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <006801c5481a$760b0370$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Dan:

I've never done it that way.  I don't think my clients would want an 
on-going fee once the project is completed.  But I do progress bill them. 
Every time I run up about $1000 (sometimes $500 if they're slow pay or I 
don't know them well) I send them an invoice.  Once the project is done I 
bill them per hour if they need maintenance or additions.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
To: "Database Advisors" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:18 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


To All,



Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought up
the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept is
that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)



This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which is
actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
old way of doing business.



I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular income
stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might be
easier to get into.



Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
method?





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From greggs at msn.com  Sat Apr 23 11:31:37 2005
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:31:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
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It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing decision nearly a no-brainer.

The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for another solution.

I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
  To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  To All,

   

  Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought up
  the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept is
  that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
  services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

   

  This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
  discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
  have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which is
  actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
  if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
  old way of doing business.  

   

  I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
  have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
  continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular income
  stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might be
  easier to get into.

   

  Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
  software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
  method?

   

   

  Dan Waters

   

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Apr 23 12:11:51 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:11:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
In-Reply-To: <5306186.1114275009451.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAxsTxDLzV7Uy7aFKTY3nxLAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Gregg,

Do you have an approximate ratio between the 'lump sum' payment and the
monthly payment?

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gregg
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:32 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the
customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
decision nearly a no-brainer.

The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that
what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications
quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for
another solution.

I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I
can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions
and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they
would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because
of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract
(where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that
it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
(once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
  To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  To All,

   

  Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought
up
  the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept
is
  that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
  services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

   

  This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
  discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
  have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which
is
  actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
  if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
  old way of doing business.  

   

  I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
  have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
  continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
income
  stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might
be
  easier to get into.

   

  Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
  software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
  method?

   

   

  Dan Waters

   

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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Apr 23 15:52:35 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:52:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E75@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E75@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <426AB593.3000708@rogers.com>

I'm still around but I may have lost the builder you mention in a 
similar HD crash. (That's the big problem with these 80+ GB hard disks. 
Even with a dual-density DVD burner, I'm still back in the dark ages of 
FastBack!)

I'll scout a few backup CDs and see if it's there. I do know that it's 
not on either of my 80 GB HDs.

Arthur

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>I think I got one from Arthur Fuller but I think it was on my last PC (that crashed).
>
>Is Arthur lurking about?
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Neal Kling
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:11 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder
>
>
>It was either for 97 or 2K. It's been a couple/few of years since I've used it and I don't recall.
>
>Neal
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
>Foust
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:02 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder
>
>
>The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
>version of Access was it for?
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
>
>
>I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
>remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
>basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
>module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with the
>records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.
>
>I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
>not it.
>
>Any help?
>
>Thanks,
>Neal
>  
>


From artful at rogers.com  Sat Apr 23 15:55:22 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:55:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E7A@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E7A@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <426AB63A.90203@rogers.com>

No, Jim, I wrote my own, based on the class stuff in ADH. Since I am 
currently unemployed, maybe I'll rewrite it if I cannot find it on one 
of my backup CDs.

A.

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>That description does sound familiar Gustav.  Maybe Arthur got it from Larry and forwarded to me (I don't think I'm familiar with Larry).
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim D.
>
>  
>


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Apr 23 18:45:42 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:45:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
In-Reply-To: <5306186.1114275009451.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
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Gregg,

I remember in a past job that if we modified an item that was purchased as a
capital item, any modifications to it had to be reviewed to change the value
of that capital item for accounting reasons.  But, there was no such review
needed with an expensed item because it didn't have capital value.

Perhaps that's what's happening with your customers when they are now asking
for additions and enhancements???

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gregg
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:32 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the
customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
decision nearly a no-brainer.

The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that
what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications
quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for
another solution.

I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I
can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions
and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they
would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because
of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract
(where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that
it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
(once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
  To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  To All,

   

  Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought
up
  the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept
is
  that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
  services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

   

  This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
  discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
  have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which
is
  actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
  if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
  old way of doing business.  

   

  I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
  have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
  continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
income
  stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might
be
  easier to get into.

   

  Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
  software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
  method?

   

   

  Dan Waters

   

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From greggs at msn.com  Sat Apr 23 19:17:54 2005
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:17:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
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Not really.  Most of our customers had spent a consistent amount for the last few years.  We took that amount and divided by 12.  We tend to market ourselves as a service company that provides Access programming, consulting, web solutions and system management.  

We did do one project where the customer was paying a monthly fee for a competitor's web solution that didn't do all he wanted to do.  We replicated the solution in Access and also hosted his application.  The customer switched the monthly fee to us and I would say it was about a 12 month payout.

But it doesn't really matter unless your front end labor is going to far exceed your cash flow.  If you're only getting say a third of you real labor paid back in the first 3 months you're going to be eating less and sleeping less.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:11 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  Gregg,

  Do you have an approximate ratio between the 'lump sum' payment and the
  monthly payment?

  Dan Waters


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com<mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com>
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gregg
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:32 AM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

  It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the
  customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
  decision nearly a no-brainer.

  The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that
  what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications
  quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for
  another solution.

  I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
  customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
  year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
  billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I
  can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

  Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions
  and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they
  would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because
  of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract
  (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that
  it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
  (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com>> 
    To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>> 
    Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
    Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


    To All,

     

    Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought
  up
    the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept
  is
    that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
    services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

     

    This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
    discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
    have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which
  is
    actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
    if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
    old way of doing business.  

     

    I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
    have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
    continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
  income
    stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might
  be
    easier to get into.

     

    Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
    software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
    method?

     

     

    Dan Waters

     

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 24 00:00:50 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:00:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
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Message-ID: <426B2802.6030802@shaw.ca>

Just as a matter of interest I was looking at one of the major software 
packages for practice mamagement
in legal firms, Time Matters  the intial cost for a solo practice is 
$1000, but what is amazing is most lawyers also cough up
the $950 a year for quick tech support without blinking.

Dan Waters wrote:

>Gregg,
>
>I remember in a past job that if we modified an item that was purchased as a
>capital item, any modifications to it had to be reviewed to change the value
>of that capital item for accounting reasons.  But, there was no such review
>needed with an expensed item because it didn't have capital value.
>
>Perhaps that's what's happening with your customers when they are now asking
>for additions and enhancements???
>
>Dan Waters
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gregg
>Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:32 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the
>customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
>decision nearly a no-brainer.
>
>The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that
>what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications
>quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for
>another solution.
>
>I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
>customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
>year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
>billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I
>can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 
>
>Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions
>and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they
>would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because
>of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract
>(where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that
>it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
>(once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
>  To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
>  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
>  Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>  To All,
>
>   
>
>  Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought
>up
>  the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept
>is
>  that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
>  services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)
>
>   
>
>  This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
>  discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
>  have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which
>is
>  actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
>  if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
>  old way of doing business.  
>
>   
>
>  I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
>  have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
>  continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
>income
>  stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might
>be
>  easier to get into.
>
>   
>
>  Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
>  software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
>  method?
>
>   
>
>   
>
>  Dan Waters
>
>   
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 24 01:36:32 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:36:32 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
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Hi Dan:

I have used a similar payment schedule by charging a client a flat rate per
month as a sort of insurance plan. They have a guarantee that if any thing
goes wrong it will be fixed and I have a steady amount coming in. One client
has been following this method for over fifteen years. They are happy and it
has fairly balanced out over the years.

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:18 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

To All,

 

Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought up
the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept is
that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

 

This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which is
actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
old way of doing business.  

 

I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular income
stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might be
easier to get into.

 

Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
method?

 

 

Dan Waters

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 24 01:44:39 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:44:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
In-Reply-To: <426AB593.3000708@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <0IFF00E5EUQCJV@l-daemon>

Hi Arthur:

I have been using a method of always acquiring a computer with two hard
drives of equal size. I try to duplicate one drive to the other on the
belief the both drives will not fail together. My business is on a network
and various backup are automatically done back and forward between the
computers. It may be a bit of over-kill but a few crashes have resulted in
no code loss....knock on plastic.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 1:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Class module builder

I'm still around but I may have lost the builder you mention in a 
similar HD crash. (That's the big problem with these 80+ GB hard disks. 
Even with a dual-density DVD burner, I'm still back in the dark ages of 
FastBack!)

I'll scout a few backup CDs and see if it's there. I do know that it's 
not on either of my 80 GB HDs.

Arthur

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>I think I got one from Arthur Fuller but I think it was on my last PC (that
crashed).
>
>Is Arthur lurking about?
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Neal Kling
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:11 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder
>
>
>It was either for 97 or 2K. It's been a couple/few of years since I've used
it and I don't recall.
>
>Neal
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
>Foust
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:02 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder
>
>
>The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
>version of Access was it for?
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
>
>
>I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
>remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
>basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
>module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with the
>records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.
>
>I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
>not it.
>
>Any help?
>
>Thanks,
>Neal
>  
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 24 16:33:11 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:33:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
Message-ID: <20050424213315.SAHC2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

This is from a reader -- I've tried but can't come up with an answer. If I
put the WHERE countID <> 57 in the subquery, SQL ignores it (kind of) -- I
understand what's going on, but that's the gist of it. I can't figure out
how to exclude the countID = 57 records from the main query, and I've not
come up with a single SELECT that'll do it. 
 
I didn't include the mdb file -- if anyone's up for the challenge, I'll be
glad to send it. 
 
Susan H. 

  _____  




Susan,
 
I am sorry for "bothering" you, but I have been attempting to implement the
technique of yours that is detailed at this location:
http://www.devx.com/dbzone/Article/9570/1954?pf=true.
 
The results are not as expected. I will attach my database for you so you
can see for yourself, but below is an explanation of what I am attempting to
do.
I have two tables that are being used in this process. Species and CBCData.
The Species table contains a list of 423 species of birds that HAVE been
seen in Missouri. The CBCData table contains the species that have been
reported on various birding outings.
 
Near the very end of the CBCData table are two outings. These are identified
by the countID. One is 57 and the other is 62. For my purposes we are
working with the outing information from 57 only.
 
My goal is to generate a list of species that were NOT reported on the
countID=57 count by comparing the species that were reported
(CBCData.specID) with the TOTAL list of possible species in the
Species.specID field.
 
OK... First, there were 86 species reported in countID=57. Therefor a report
showing the species that were NOT reported should show (423 - 86 = 337) ...
337 species NOT reported.
 
HOWEVER, my query generates a completely different number (208)... I can't
discern WHY...  IT SHOULD REPORT 337....
 
Can you assist?
 
 


From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 24 17:42:52 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:42:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050424224253.44570.qmail@web20425.mail.yahoo.com>

In your sub query are you saying...
 
In (Select countID From SomeTable Where countID <> 57)

Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
This is from a reader -- I've tried but can't come up with an answer. If I
put the WHERE countID <> 57 in the subquery, SQL ignores it (kind of) -- I
understand what's going on, but that's the gist of it. I can't figure out
how to exclude the countID = 57 records from the main query, and I've not
come up with a single SELECT that'll do it. 

I didn't include the mdb file -- if anyone's up for the challenge, I'll be
glad to send it. 

Susan H. 

_____ 




Susan,

I am sorry for "bothering" you, but I have been attempting to implement the
technique of yours that is detailed at this location:
http://www.devx.com/dbzone/Article/9570/1954?pf=true.

The results are not as expected. I will attach my database for you so you
can see for yourself, but below is an explanation of what I am attempting to
do.
I have two tables that are being used in this process. Species and CBCData.
The Species table contains a list of 423 species of birds that HAVE been
seen in Missouri. The CBCData table contains the species that have been
reported on various birding outings.

Near the very end of the CBCData table are two outings. These are identified
by the countID. One is 57 and the other is 62. For my purposes we are
working with the outing information from 57 only.

My goal is to generate a list of species that were NOT reported on the
countID=57 count by comparing the species that were reported
(CBCData.specID) with the TOTAL list of possible species in the
Species.specID field.

OK... First, there were 86 species reported in countID=57. Therefor a report
showing the species that were NOT reported should show (423 - 86 = 337) ...
337 species NOT reported.

HOWEVER, my query generates a completely different number (208)... I can't
discern WHY... IT SHOULD REPORT 337....

Can you assist?


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 24 18:00:50 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:00:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <20050424224253.44570.qmail@web20425.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050424230049.TUJO2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Yes

SELECT Species.SpecID
FROM Species
WHERE
NOT EXISTS
(SELECT CBCData.CountID From CBCData  WHERE CBCData.CountID <> 57)
ORDER BY Species.SpecID

Returns no records

SELECT Species.SpecID
FROM Species
WHERE
EXISTS
(SELECT CBCData.CountID From CBCData WHERE CBCData.CountID <> 57)
ORDER BY Species.SpecID 

Returns them all. 

Using this syntamx, there's no relationship between the two SELECT
statements. 
I've tried adding a join to the mix -- in the sub and the main -- but
haven't been successful yet. 

Susan H. 



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lonnie Johnson
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 6:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL challenge

In your sub query are you saying...
 
In (Select countID From SomeTable Where countID <> 57)

Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
This is from a reader -- I've tried but can't come up with an answer. If I
put the WHERE countID <> 57 in the subquery, SQL ignores it (kind of) -- I
understand what's going on, but that's the gist of it. I can't figure out
how to exclude the countID = 57 records from the main query, and I've not
come up with a single SELECT that'll do it. 

I didn't include the mdb file -- if anyone's up for the challenge, I'll be
glad to send it. 

Susan H. 

_____ 




Susan,

I am sorry for "bothering" you, but I have been attempting to implement the
technique of yours that is detailed at this location:
http://www.devx.com/dbzone/Article/9570/1954?pf=true.

The results are not as expected. I will attach my database for you so you
can see for yourself, but below is an explanation of what I am attempting to
do.
I have two tables that are being used in this process. Species and CBCData.
The Species table contains a list of 423 species of birds that HAVE been
seen in Missouri. The CBCData table contains the species that have been
reported on various birding outings.

Near the very end of the CBCData table are two outings. These are identified
by the countID. One is 57 and the other is 62. For my purposes we are
working with the outing information from 57 only.

My goal is to generate a list of species that were NOT reported on the
countID=57 count by comparing the species that were reported
(CBCData.specID) with the TOTAL list of possible species in the
Species.specID field.

OK... First, there were 86 species reported in countID=57. Therefor a report
showing the species that were NOT reported should show (423 - 86 = 337) ...
337 species NOT reported.

HOWEVER, my query generates a completely different number (208)... I can't
discern WHY... IT SHOULD REPORT 337....

Can you assist?


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 24 18:39:01 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:39:01 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <20050424230049.TUJO2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20050424224253.44570.qmail@web20425.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <426CBAB5.21685.248BB68@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 24 Apr 2005 at 19:00, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Yes
> 
> SELECT Species.SpecID
> FROM Species
> WHERE
> NOT EXISTS
> (SELECT CBCData.CountID From CBCData  WHERE CBCData.CountID <> 57)
> ORDER BY Species.SpecID
> 
...

> Using this syntamx, there's no relationship between the two SELECT
> statements. 
> I've tried adding a join to the mix -- in the sub and the main -- but
> haven't been successful yet. 


That's because you aren't selecting SpecID from CBCData, your're selecting 
CountID.

Try something like (aircode)

SELECT Species.SpecID
FROM Species
WHERE
SpecID NOT IN
(SELECT DISTINCT CBCData.SpecID From CBCData Where CBCData.CountID = 57)


-- 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 24 18:56:02 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:56:02 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <20050424230049.TUJO2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20050424224253.44570.qmail@web20425.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <426CBEB2.7886.2584FDE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Just had a look at the article referenced and I see the aim is to use 
EXISTS (even though the EXISTS  seems like overkill).

Looks like you wrote you article without really understanding your subject. 
:-)  

In your own words from the article "SQL's EXISTS predicate specifies a 
subquery and then compares a value against the existence of one or more 
rows in that subquery. The subquery returns True when the subquery contains 
any rows and False when it doesn't."

So you need to establish a relationship within the subquery between the 
master record and the subquery records so that you can evaluate True or 
False  FOR EACH instance of  Species.SpecID. You need something like:

> WHERE
> NOT EXISTS
> (SELECT CBCData.SpecID From CBCData  WHERE CBCData.SpecID = Species.SpecID and CBCData.CountID = 57)

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 24 19:06:44 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:06:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <426CBEB2.7886.2584FDE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20050425000649.JKKG2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Thanks Stuart -- that did it. I had tried an In operator as well, I just
wasn't getting it right. I knew why the EXISTS wasn't working -- that was
the reader's choice, not mine -- but I couldn't get it right. 

Susan H. 

Just had a look at the article referenced and I see the aim is to use EXISTS
(even though the EXISTS  seems like overkill).

Looks like you wrote you article without really understanding your subject. 
:-)  

============Did I say something in the article that wasn't true? 

Susan H. 



From nd500_lo at charter.net  Sun Apr 24 19:21:41 2005
From: nd500_lo at charter.net (Dian)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:21:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <41dmfb$pvkfil@mxip06a.cluster1.charter.net>



OK...John, I've waited patiently as long as I can manage. Did everything go
as planned on the 14th?



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 24 19:42:20 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:42:20 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <20050425000649.JKKG2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <426CBEB2.7886.2584FDE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <426CC98C.16891.282B1C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 24 Apr 2005 at 20:06, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Looks like you wrote you article without really understanding your subject. 
> :-)  
> 
> ============Did I say something in the article that wasn't true? 
> 

No, you just didn't apply what was in the article in your solution :-)

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Apr 24 20:13:45 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:13:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAfDY69YBUqEOoTah9AOZkNAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
	<BAY103-DAV120F124A250008EF766D28C62E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004101c54934$07407900$6401a8c0@user>

Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion. Additional work quoted separately.

So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I convert that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that I get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long does the arrangement run for??? 

Kath
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  From: Gregg 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing decision nearly a no-brainer.

  The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for another solution.

  I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

  Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
    To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
    Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
    Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


    To All,

     

    Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought up
    the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept is
    that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
    services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

     

    This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
    discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
    have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which is
    actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
    if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
    old way of doing business.  

     

    I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
    have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
    continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular income
    stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might be
    easier to get into.

     

    Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
    software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
    method?

     

     

    Dan Waters

     

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Apr 24 20:57:00 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:57:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <41dmfb$pvkfil@mxip06a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <002c01c5493a$18b31ed0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yep, we are officially adoptive parents to our two children - Robbie and
Allie.  Last Thursday was the big day, it all went smoothly.  My sister and
mom were here from Arizona, two sister-in-laws from Syracuse/Rochester and
many of the DCF support people.  Sister Sarah rented a limo for the occasion
- "what a BIIIIIIG car" from Robbie, the 4 year old.  ;-)  

Then Sunday a party with about 25 people plus a bunch of kids (most of whom
are foster or adopted).  8-)  

Mom n sis left Tuesday morning 7am and Mary and I and kids headed out about
noon to Syracuse / Rochester for spring break which is why no word after
that.  We just got back tonight about 6pm.  

And now... the fun begins...  <grin>.  Allie is the youngest, 2 years old.
I am 51, which means I will be around 70 by the time she leaves home -
assuming I survive.  <VBG>

Next summer, if all goes as planned, we will move to North Carolina where we
will live for the rest of our lives.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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http://folding.stanford.edu/

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Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:22 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life




OK...John, I've waited patiently as long as I can manage. Did everything go
as planned on the 14th?

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 24 21:24:01 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:24:01 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <002c01c5493a$18b31ed0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <41dmfb$pvkfil@mxip06a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <426CE161.25651.2DFC973@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 24 Apr 2005 at 21:57, John W. Colby wrote:

> 
> And now... the fun begins...  <grin>.  Allie is the youngest, 2 years old.
> I am 51, which means I will be around 70 by the time she leaves home -
> assuming I survive.  <VBG>
> 

Plenty of time. My Cheryl Anne turns 3 in June and I'm 56. :-)

 



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 24 22:46:14 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:46:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
References: <002c01c5493a$18b31ed0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <00fd01c54949$5476a8b0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

>From one old dad to another:

Mazel tov.  There are no better days.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 6:57 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


> Yep, we are officially adoptive parents to our two children - Robbie and
> Allie.  Last Thursday was the big day, it all went smoothly.  My sister 
> and
> mom were here from Arizona, two sister-in-laws from Syracuse/Rochester and
> many of the DCF support people.  Sister Sarah rented a limo for the 
> occasion
> - "what a BIIIIIIG car" from Robbie, the 4 year old.  ;-)
>
> Then Sunday a party with about 25 people plus a bunch of kids (most of 
> whom
> are foster or adopted).  8-)
>
> Mom n sis left Tuesday morning 7am and Mary and I and kids headed out 
> about
> noon to Syracuse / Rochester for spring break which is why no word after
> that.  We just got back tonight about 6pm.
>
> And now... the fun begins...  <grin>.  Allie is the youngest, 2 years old.
> I am 51, which means I will be around 70 by the time she leaves home -
> assuming I survive.  <VBG>
>
> Next summer, if all goes as planned, we will move to North Carolina where 
> we
> will live for the rest of our lives.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dian
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Apr 24 23:30:49 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:30:49 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
References: <002c01c5493a$18b31ed0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <001f01c5494f$8f0b1780$6401a8c0@user>

<<whichmeansIwillbearound70bythetimesheleaveshome

.....there are some calculations which you just shouldn't do!!........

Congratulations - Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John W. Colby 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 11:57 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


  Yep, we are officially adoptive parents to our two children - Robbie and
  Allie.  Last Thursday was the big day, it all went smoothly.  My sister and
  mom were here from Arizona, two sister-in-laws from Syracuse/Rochester and
  many of the DCF support people.  Sister Sarah rented a limo for the occasion
  - "what a BIIIIIIG car" from Robbie, the 4 year old.  ;-)  

  Then Sunday a party with about 25 people plus a bunch of kids (most of whom
  are foster or adopted).  8-)  

  Mom n sis left Tuesday morning 7am and Mary and I and kids headed out about
  noon to Syracuse / Rochester for spring break which is why no word after
  that.  We just got back tonight about 6pm.  

  And now... the fun begins...  <grin>.  Allie is the youngest, 2 years old.
  I am 51, wh                                                                ichmeansIwillbearound70bythetimesheleaveshome-assumingIsurvive.VBGNextsummer,ifallgoesasplanned,wewillmovetoNorthCarolinawherewewilllivefortherestofourlives.JohnW.Colbywww.ColbyConsulting.zl6ContributeyourunusedCPU cycles to a good cause:
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  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:22 PM
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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  OK...John, I've waited patiently as long as I can manage. Did everything go
  as planned on the 14th?

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 24 23:49:08 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:49:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] DBA web site search Archives
In-Reply-To: <426CBAB5.21685.248BB68@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <0IFH00H39K1TCI@l-daemon>

Hi All:

There is a new extended Archive data search form. I assembled it but Bryan
created it. See: http://www.databaseadvisors.com/archive/archive.htm

Thanks Bryan
Jim  



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr 25 00:47:01 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 01:47:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <001f01c5494f$8f0b1780$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <003401c5495a$342484e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Denial is the elixir of life.  ;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 12:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


<<whichmeansIwillbearound70bythetimesheleaveshome

.....there are some calculations which you just shouldn't do!!........

Congratulations - Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John W. Colby 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 11:57 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


  Yep, we are officially adoptive parents to our two children - Robbie and
  Allie.  Last Thursday was the big day, it all went smoothly.  My sister
and
  mom were here from Arizona, two sister-in-laws from Syracuse/Rochester and
  many of the DCF support people.  Sister Sarah rented a limo for the
occasion
  - "what a BIIIIIIG car" from Robbie, the 4 year old.  ;-)  

  Then Sunday a party with about 25 people plus a bunch of kids (most of
whom
  are foster or adopted).  8-)  

  Mom n sis left Tuesday morning 7am and Mary and I and kids headed out
about
  noon to Syracuse / Rochester for spring break which is why no word after
  that.  We just got back tonight about 6pm.  

  And now... the fun begins...  <grin>.  Allie is the youngest, 2 years old.
  I am 51, wh
ichmeansIwillbearound70bythetimesheleaveshome-assumingIsurvive.VBGNextsummer
,ifallgoesasplanned,wewillmovetoNorthCarolinawherewewilllivefortherestofourl
ives.JohnW.Colbywww.ColbyConsulting.zl6ContributeyourunusedCPU cycles to a
good cause:
  http://folding.stanford.edu/

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  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:22 PM
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life




  OK...John, I've waited patiently as long as I can manage. Did everything
go
  as planned on the 14th?

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From boogieloogie at gmail.com  Mon Apr 25 07:15:04 2005
From: boogieloogie at gmail.com (Boogie Loogie)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:15:04 -0300
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 question. Preventing a duplicate value from
	being added to a listbox
In-Reply-To: <3bf43ee9050425051178412cc4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bf43ee9050425051178412cc4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3bf43ee90504250515575167ef@mail.gmail.com>

Hello. I have a list box populated with a value list thus no table
involved. I am trying to prevent duplicate values from being added but
thus far have not been able to solve this. The problem is that if I
add a value of 123 to the list I can no longer add 1,2,3,12,or 23.
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks

BL

ACCESS 97 CODE

Private Sub cmdAddPid_Click()
With Me
    Beep
    If Not IsNull(!txtPID) And !txtPID <> Trim("") Then
        Call addItem(!lstPID, Trim(!txtPID))
    End If
End With
End Sub

Public Sub addItem(aList As ListBox, aString As String)
Dim i As Long
Dim checking As String

For i = 1 To Len(aList.RowSource) - Len(aString)
    checking = Mid(aList.RowSource, i, Len(aString))
    If checking = aString Then
        If Len(checking) = Len(aString) Then
            Exit Sub
        End If
    End If
Next i

aList.RowSource = aList.RowSource & Chr$(34) & aString & Chr$(34) & ";"
End Sub


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Apr 25 07:44:53 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:44:53 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 question. Preventing a duplicate value
	frombeing added to a listbox
Message-ID: <s26d0271.046@cactus.dk>

Hi BL

Include Chr(34) in your search/checking: Chr$(34) & aString & Chr$(34)

/gustav

>>> boogieloogie at gmail.com 04/25 2:15 pm >>>
Hello. I have a list box populated with a value list thus no table
involved. I am trying to prevent duplicate values from being added but
thus far have not been able to solve this. The problem is that if I
add a value of 123 to the list I can no longer add 1,2,3,12,or 23.
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks

BL

ACCESS 97 CODE

Private Sub cmdAddPid_Click()
With Me
    Beep
    If Not IsNull(!txtPID) And !txtPID <> Trim("") Then
        Call addItem(!lstPID, Trim(!txtPID))
    End If
End With
End Sub

Public Sub addItem(aList As ListBox, aString As String)
Dim i As Long
Dim checking As String

For i = 1 To Len(aList.RowSource) - Len(aString)
    checking = Mid(aList.RowSource, i, Len(aString))
    If checking = aString Then
        If Len(checking) = Len(aString) Then
            Exit Sub
        End If
    End If
Next i

aList.RowSource = aList.RowSource & Chr$(34) & aString & Chr$(34) &
";"
End Sub



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 25 08:02:35 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:02:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <426CC98C.16891.282B1C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20050425130236.LPZP2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


No, you just didn't apply what was in the article in your solution :-)

==========The article's solution? If you're talking about the reader's
solution -- the reader's the one that tried to use EXISTS. I did try, but of
course, it failed, and I understood why after trying. I wasn't looking for
an EXISTS solution, just a solution. Hope that makes sense. 

I can't really control what readers try to do with my stuff. :) I often
start in the wrong places myself. 

Susan H. 



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Mon Apr 25 08:16:35 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:16:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2EF2@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

That's what I thought.  It worked pretty well as I recall. Can't figure for the life of me how I misplaced it though.  It wouldn't have been a VB app would it?

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 4:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Class module builder


No, Jim, I wrote my own, based on the class stuff in ADH. Since I am 
currently unemployed, maybe I'll rewrite it if I cannot find it on one 
of my backup CDs.

A.

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>That description does sound familiar Gustav.  Maybe Arthur got it from Larry and forwarded to me (I don't think I'm familiar with Larry).
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim D.
>
>  
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From boogieloogie at gmail.com  Mon Apr 25 08:35:53 2005
From: boogieloogie at gmail.com (Boogie Loogie)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:35:53 -0300
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 question. Preventing a duplicate value
	frombeing added to a listbox
In-Reply-To: <s26d0271.046@cactus.dk>
References: <s26d0271.046@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <3bf43ee905042506354cbccafa@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/25/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi BL
> 
> Include Chr(34) in your search/checking: Chr$(34) & aString & Chr$(34)
> 
> /gustav
> 

Hi gustav. Thank you. I got you for some points on ee as well.

Bye

BL


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Apr 25 09:03:51 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:03:51 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <20050425130236.LPZP2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <426CC98C.16891.282B1C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <426D8567.172.5608037@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 25 Apr 2005 at 9:02, Susan Harkins wrote:

> 
> ==========The article's solution? If you're talking about the reader's
> solution -- the reader's the one that tried to use EXISTS. I did try, but of
> course, it failed, and I understood why after trying. I wasn't looking for
> an EXISTS solution, just a solution. Hope that makes sense. 
> 

The reader said he/she was trying to implement the technique from your 
article about EXISTS.  You said that you had tried to come up with a 
solution using EXISTS but it failed.  I was just pointing out that the only 
reason the reader and your  EXISTS solutions failed was the lack of a 
relationship in the sub-query andf that you could do it using:

WHERE
NOT EXISTS
(SELECT CBCData.SpecID From CBCData  WHERE CBCData.SpecID = 
Species.SpecID and CBCData.CountID = 57)

-- 
Stuart




From greggs at msn.com  Mon Apr 25 09:32:13 2005
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:32:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAfDY69YBUqEOoTah9AOZkNAEAAAAA@usinternet.com><BAY103-DAV120F124A250008EF766D28C62E0@phx.gbl>
	<004101c54934$07407900$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV1536BEB009A5EC87085F96C6200@phx.gbl>

Kath,

I tend to convert everything to hours.  My estimates are broken down by hours and totaled.  Only at the end are they multiplied by an hourly rate.  I want the customer to believe (1) this is a service not a commodity, (2) before this project is finished there will many changes and additions requiring additional hours and (3) when we are finished he will think of 10 more things he will like to have.  Simply stated, this is going to be a long-term, by-the-hour relationship.  I then report every month where those hours are spent.

If I was quoting a $10,000 project at say $50/hr that would be 200 hours.  I would quote $1000/month for 10 months with the first payment up front.  I would report every month the hours and the balance on that project plus whatever additional services they asked for under that project's name or a Misc category.  Obviously, their payments would continue past the 10 months until the balance is paid.  Hopefully by this time you have built a positive relationship and identified lots more to do to justify continuing the payments or even some lower payments.  The long term goal is to sell the customer that there will always be a need for your services and he might as well budget for it annually.  

Obviously whatever arrangements you make are going to have a negative impact on your cash flow.  Essentially some of the hours you work today you won't get paid on until 6 months from now. If you don't have money in the bank, you need to be very careful about how far you extend terms on the first project and how often you do it. 

Hope this helps.

Gregg

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kath Pelletti<mailto:KP at sdsonline.net> 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion. Additional work quoted separately.

  So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I convert that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that I get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long does the arrangement run for??? 

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Gregg 
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
    Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


    It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing decision nearly a no-brainer.

    The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for another solution.

    I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

    Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com>> 
      To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>> 
      Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
      Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


      To All,

       

      Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought up
      the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept is
      that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
      services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

       

      This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
      discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
      have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which is
      actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
      if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
      old way of doing business.  

       

      I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
      have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
      continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular income
      stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might be
      easier to get into.

       

      Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
      software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
      method?

       

       

      Dan Waters

       

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 25 09:35:43 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:35:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <426D8567.172.5608037@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20050425143542.PBJG22125.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I understand -- I tried it and it didn't work and after just a minute, I had
figured out why -- but I couldn't come up with any other solution that
worked. :( The reader will be grateful for you help. 

Susan H. 

On 25 Apr 2005 at 9:02, Susan Harkins wrote:

> 
> ==========The article's solution? If you're talking about the reader's 
> solution -- the reader's the one that tried to use EXISTS. I did try, 
> but of course, it failed, and I understood why after trying. I wasn't 
> looking for an EXISTS solution, just a solution. Hope that makes sense.
> 

The reader said he/she was trying to implement the technique from your
article about EXISTS.  You said that you had tried to come up with a
solution using EXISTS but it failed.  I was just pointing out that the only
reason the reader and your  EXISTS solutions failed was the lack of a
relationship in the sub-query andf that you could do it using:

WHERE
NOT EXISTS
(SELECT CBCData.SpecID From CBCData  WHERE CBCData.SpecID = Species.SpecID
and CBCData.CountID = 57)

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Apr 25 09:48:37 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:48:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
In-Reply-To: <6151691.1114391916683.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAumWFpI10lkS82c/+LeHtggEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Hi Kath,

I talked with an accountant this morning.  He said that a capitalized
software purchase is depreciated over 3 years (straight-line).  This 'seems'
to indicate that asking them to pay 1/36th of the 'purchase' amount every
month from now on would be OK.  A $10,000 purchase would equate to a $278
monthly payment.  The $278 is regular income to you, and does not end.  

Instead of some fraction of the purchase price, you could try to calculate
the monthly value they get, and then charge a portion of that.  This is a
pretty reasonable approach - the customer pays for less than the value they
get for as long as they are getting it.

They could drop out at any time after 6 (or 12?) months - so the risk is on
you to provide something that is worth more to them each month than they pay
each month.  There will need to be a mechanism (or good contract) to turn
off the software if they decide to discontinue.  

What I think I'll do is offer continuing Tech Support and Warranty for as
long as they use the software.  So I'll offer a Purchase License and a TSW
License - customer's choice.  And, they can convert a TSW License to a
Purchase License whenever they like.

However - do you license your software or are you contracting with them to
provide software that they will own?  If they will own it, then you'll have
to come up with some additional service to make it worth their money. 

** On my website there is a spreadsheet intended for prospective customers
to enable them to calculate for themselves the productivity increase they
will experience by using my software to automate a business process.  Go to
www.promationsystems.com/download.htm.  Download the compressed file that
has an instruction document, an instructional video, and the spreadsheet.
If you are a member of the AccessD list you have my permission to modify the
spreadsheet for your business.  (I used Windows Media Encoder 9.0 to create
the screen capture video.)


Dan Waters




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully
customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a
job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion.
Additional work quoted separately.

So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I convert
that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that I
get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do
that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long does
the arrangement run for??? 

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gregg 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the
customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
decision nearly a no-brainer.

  The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different
that what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications
quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for
another solution.

  I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I
can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

  Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions
and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they
would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because
of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract
(where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that
it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
(once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
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    From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
    To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
    Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
    Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


    To All,

     

    Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought
up
    the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept
is
    that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
    services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

     

    This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
    discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
    have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which
is
    actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little
shocked
    if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to
the
    old way of doing business.  

     

    I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I
would
    have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
    continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
income
    stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which
might be
    easier to get into.

     

    Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
    software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
    method?

     

     

    Dan Waters

     

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From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr 25 12:06:45 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:06:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050425100641395ea@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Group,

The Access 2003 Help has this to say about LEFT JOINS:

"Left outer joins include all of the records from the first (left) of
two tables, even if there are no matching values for records in the
second (right) table."

I've done Left and Right Joins so many times over the years I can't
count them. Now I'm puzzled by one that should be butt-simple. Here's
the task: List all of the Donation categories and the sum of the
Donation amounts for a specific time period. Make sure that the
Donation category list contains every category whether there were
donations during the period or not.

Here's the SQL:

SELECT
  DonationCategories.CategoryDescr, 
  Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations 
FROM DonationCategories 
LEFT JOIN DollarsDonated 
ON DonationCategories.CategoryKey = DollarsDonated.CategoryKey
WHERE (((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And #3/31/2005#)) 
GROUP BY DonationCategories.CategoryDescr; 

There are 13 Donation Categories. The result set should have 13
records. It does not. It only has 11 for the categories where there
were donations in the period, it appears.

What am I missing?


Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Apr 25 12:13:28 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:13:28 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
Message-ID: <s26d417d.050@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve

You need to move the filtering to a subquery. Then left join that and
not the unfiltered table.

/gustav


>>> erbachs at gmail.com 04/25 7:06 pm >>>
Dear Group,

The Access 2003 Help has this to say about LEFT JOINS:

"Left outer joins include all of the records from the first (left) of
two tables, even if there are no matching values for records in the
second (right) table."

I've done Left and Right Joins so many times over the years I can't
count them. Now I'm puzzled by one that should be butt-simple. Here's
the task: List all of the Donation categories and the sum of the
Donation amounts for a specific time period. Make sure that the
Donation category list contains every category whether there were
donations during the period or not.

Here's the SQL:

SELECT
  DonationCategories.CategoryDescr, 
  Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations 
FROM DonationCategories 
LEFT JOIN DollarsDonated 
ON DonationCategories.CategoryKey = DollarsDonated.CategoryKey
WHERE (((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And
#3/31/2005#)) 
GROUP BY DonationCategories.CategoryDescr; 

There are 13 Donation Categories. The result set should have 13
records. It does not. It only has 11 for the categories where there
were donations in the period, it appears.



From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 25 12:17:31 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:17:31 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
In-Reply-To: <s26d417d.050@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F21E3587C0B1D498FE8654AD2200@phx.gbl>

Steve,

...or you can add criteria to your date field to include NULLS in addition 
to the dates provided... DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate=null.


Mark

>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
>Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:13:28 +0200
>
>Hi Steve
>
>You need to move the filtering to a subquery. Then left join that and
>not the unfiltered table.
>
>/gustav
>
>
> >>> erbachs at gmail.com 04/25 7:06 pm >>>
>Dear Group,
>
>The Access 2003 Help has this to say about LEFT JOINS:
>
>"Left outer joins include all of the records from the first (left) of
>two tables, even if there are no matching values for records in the
>second (right) table."
>
>I've done Left and Right Joins so many times over the years I can't
>count them. Now I'm puzzled by one that should be butt-simple. Here's
>the task: List all of the Donation categories and the sum of the
>Donation amounts for a specific time period. Make sure that the
>Donation category list contains every category whether there were
>donations during the period or not.
>
>Here's the SQL:
>
>SELECT
>   DonationCategories.CategoryDescr,
>   Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations
>FROM DonationCategories
>LEFT JOIN DollarsDonated
>ON DonationCategories.CategoryKey = DollarsDonated.CategoryKey
>WHERE (((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And
>#3/31/2005#))
>GROUP BY DonationCategories.CategoryDescr;
>
>There are 13 Donation Categories. The result set should have 13
>records. It does not. It only has 11 for the categories where there
>were donations in the period, it appears.
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 25 12:21:57 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:21:57 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
In-Reply-To: <s26d417d.050@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F249B1D309F19F188770CC0D2200@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm receiving 
a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import 
automatically.

Thanks,

Mark




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 25 12:23:22 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:23:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f3050425100641395ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050425172320.UXAY22125.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

  It's a conflict to return all on one side but limit the other side with a
WHERE -- can't do it I don't think. 

Susan H. 

Dear Group,

The Access 2003 Help has this to say about LEFT JOINS:

"Left outer joins include all of the records from the first (left) of two
tables, even if there are no matching values for records in the second
(right) table."

I've done Left and Right Joins so many times over the years I can't count
them. Now I'm puzzled by one that should be butt-simple. Here's the task:
List all of the Donation categories and the sum of the Donation amounts for
a specific time period. Make sure that the Donation category list contains
every category whether there were donations during the period or not.

Here's the SQL:

SELECT
  DonationCategories.CategoryDescr,
  Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations FROM
DonationCategories LEFT JOIN DollarsDonated ON
DonationCategories.CategoryKey = DollarsDonated.CategoryKey WHERE
(((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And #3/31/2005#)) GROUP BY
DonationCategories.CategoryDescr; 

SELECT Species.SpecID, Sum(CBCData.countID) AS SumOfcountID
FROM Species LEFT JOIN CBCData ON Species.SpecID = CBCData.specID
GROUP BY Species.SpecID;
Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Mon Apr 25 12:26:02 2005
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:26:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f3050425100641395ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OFE6E74B9F.179FA131-ON86256FEE.005F5718-86256FEE.005FC44D@usbank.com>

You can try this:

SELECT
  DonationCategories.CategoryDescr,
  temp1.SumOfDonations
FROM DonationCategories
LEFT JOIN

(SELECT
  DollarsDonated.CategoryKey,
  Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations
FROM DollarsDonated
WHERE (((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And #3/31/2005#))
GROUP BY DollarsDonated.CategoryKey) AS temp1

ON DonationCategories.CategoryKey = temp1.CategoryKey



Jeffrey F. Demulling
Project Manager
U.S. Bank Corporate Trust Services
60 Livingston Avenue
EP-MN-WS3C
St. Paul, MN  55107-2292
Ph: 651-495-3925
Fax: 651-495-8103
email: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com


                                                                           
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Dear Group,

The Access 2003 Help has this to say about LEFT JOINS:

"Left outer joins include all of the records from the first (left) of
two tables, even if there are no matching values for records in the
second (right) table."

I've done Left and Right Joins so many times over the years I can't
count them. Now I'm puzzled by one that should be butt-simple. Here's
the task: List all of the Donation categories and the sum of the
Donation amounts for a specific time period. Make sure that the
Donation category list contains every category whether there were
donations during the period or not.

Here's the SQL:

SELECT
  DonationCategories.CategoryDescr,
  Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations
FROM DonationCategories
LEFT JOIN DollarsDonated
ON DonationCategories.CategoryKey = DollarsDonated.CategoryKey
WHERE (((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And #3/31/2005#))
GROUP BY DonationCategories.CategoryDescr;

There are 13 Donation Categories. The result set should have 13
records. It does not. It only has 11 for the categories where there
were donations in the period, it appears.

What am I missing?


Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
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From ldoering at symphonyinfo.com  Mon Apr 25 12:29:34 2005
From: ldoering at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:29:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f3050425100641395ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1DQ7PK-00046c-00@pop-a065d19.pas.sa.earthlink.net>

Steve,

If you have no donations for a particular category, the
DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate date is null.  So you are disallowing categories
with no data in that field.

Liz

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 12:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem

Dear Group,

The Access 2003 Help has this to say about LEFT JOINS:

"Left outer joins include all of the records from the first (left) of
two tables, even if there are no matching values for records in the
second (right) table."

I've done Left and Right Joins so many times over the years I can't
count them. Now I'm puzzled by one that should be butt-simple. Here's
the task: List all of the Donation categories and the sum of the
Donation amounts for a specific time period. Make sure that the
Donation category list contains every category whether there were
donations during the period or not.

Here's the SQL:

SELECT
  DonationCategories.CategoryDescr, 
  Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations 
FROM DonationCategories 
LEFT JOIN DollarsDonated 
ON DonationCategories.CategoryKey = DollarsDonated.CategoryKey
WHERE (((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And #3/31/2005#)) 
GROUP BY DonationCategories.CategoryDescr; 

There are 13 Donation Categories. The result set should have 13
records. It does not. It only has 11 for the categories where there
were donations in the period, it appears.

What am I missing?


Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Mon Apr 25 12:34:06 2005
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Don [ITS])
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:34:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <E2B2D43190AF7948BF79EF0079153D3C0124DFA6@PDAWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Mark:

Don't know if it's the easiest way, but I use the Winzip command line
extensions passing a command line to a ShellWait function.  The command
line extensions are available as a free download from Winzip (requires
at least Winzip version 8.0 IIRC)

HTH,

Don

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Hello All,

Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm
receiving 
a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import 
automatically.

Thanks,

Mark


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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr 25 12:36:38 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B8E056@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA5D@ADGSERVER>

If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out to
WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.

Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have not used
any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Hello All,

Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm receiving

a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import 
automatically.

Thanks,

Mark



From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr 25 12:37:27 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:37:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
In-Reply-To: <s26d417d.050@cactus.dk>
References: <s26d417d.050@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305042510376bc15faf@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav,

Ah! I created the filter query and saved it. Then I used it in my LEFT
JOIN query. Voila! Boy! That seems like more work than is necessary,
but it does the job. Thank you.

Steve Erbach

On 4/25/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Steve
> 
> You need to move the filtering to a subquery. Then left join that and
> not the unfiltered table.
> 
> /gustav


From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr 25 12:39:37 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:39:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
In-Reply-To: <OFE6E74B9F.179FA131-ON86256FEE.005F5718-86256FEE.005FC44D@usbank.com>
References: <39cb22f3050425100641395ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFE6E74B9F.179FA131-ON86256FEE.005F5718-86256FEE.005FC44D@usbank.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305042510392600b757@mail.gmail.com>

Jeffrey,

Ah! All in one query! I can get rid of my saved query. I wasn't aware
that a subquery could be given an alias like a field can. Thank you.

Steve Erbach

On 4/25/05, jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com <jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com> wrote:
> You can try this:
> 
> SELECT
>   DonationCategories.CategoryDescr,
>   temp1.SumOfDonations
> FROM DonationCategories
> LEFT JOIN
> 
> (SELECT
>   DollarsDonated.CategoryKey,
>   Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations
> FROM DollarsDonated
> WHERE (((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And #3/31/2005#))
> GROUP BY DollarsDonated.CategoryKey) AS temp1
> 
> ON DonationCategories.CategoryKey = temp1.CategoryKey
> 
> Jeffrey F. Demulling


From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr 25 12:41:29 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:41:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F21E3587C0B1D498FE8654AD2200@phx.gbl>
References: <s26d417d.050@cactus.dk>
	<BAY103-F21E3587C0B1D498FE8654AD2200@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050425104128ffe47d@mail.gmail.com>

Mark, Susan, Liz,

Thank you for the instant response to my problem. I appreciate it very much.

Steve Erbach

On 4/25/05, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> ...or you can add criteria to your date field to include NULLS in addition
> to the dates provided... DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate=null.
> 
> Mark
> 

>   It's a conflict to return all on one side but limit the other side with a
> WHERE -- can't do it I don't think.
>
> Susan H.

> Steve,

> If you have no donations for a particular category, the
DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate date is null.  So you are disallowing categories
with no data in that field.
> 
> Liz


From KP at sdsonline.net  Mon Apr 25 18:33:14 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:33:14 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAfDY69YBUqEOoTah9AOZkNAEAAAAA@usinternet.com><BAY103-DAV120F124A250008EF766D28C62E0@phx.gbl><004101c54934$07407900$6401a8c0@user>
	<BAY103-DAV1536BEB009A5EC87085F96C6200@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002101c549ef$27cdfe70$6401a8c0@user>

Thanks Gregg - I'll have a think about how to get some orf my clients to 'make the shift'.,

rgds
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gregg 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  Kath,

  I tend to convert everything to hours.  My estimates are broken down by hours and totaled.  Only at the end are they multiplied by an hourly rate.  I want the customer to believe (1) this is a service not a commodity, (2) before this project is finished there will many changes and additions requiring additional hours and (3) when we are finished he will think of 10 more things he will like to have.  Simply stated, this is going to be a long-term, by-the-hour relationship.  I then report every month where those hours are spent.

  If I was quoting a $10,000 project at say $50/hr that would be 200 hours.  I would quote $1000/month for 10 months with the first payment up front.  I would report every month the hours and the balance on that project plus whatever additional services they asked for under that project's name or a Misc category.  Obviously, their payments would continue past the 10 months until the balance is paid.  Hopefully by this time you have built a positive relationship and identified lots more to do to justify continuing the payments or even some lower payments.  The long term goal is to sell the customer that there will always be a need for your services and he might as well budget for it annually.  

  Obviously whatever arrangements you make are going to have a negative impact on your cash flow.  Essentially some of the hours you work today you won't get paid on until 6 months from now. If you don't have money in the bank, you need to be very careful about how far you extend terms on the first project and how often you do it. 

  Hope this helps.

  Gregg

  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Kath Pelletti<mailto:KP at sdsonline.net> 
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
    Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:13 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


    Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion. Additional work quoted separately.

    So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I convert that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that I get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long does the arrangement run for??? 

    Kath
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Gregg 
      To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
      Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
      Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


      It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing decision nearly a no-brainer.

      The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for another solution.

      I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

      Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com>> 
        To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>> 
        Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
        Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


        To All,

         

        Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought up
        the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept is
        that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
        services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

         

        This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
        discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
        have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which is
        actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
        if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
        old way of doing business.  

         

        I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
        have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
        continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular income
        stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might be
        easier to get into.

         

        Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
        software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
        method?

         

         

        Dan Waters

         

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Mon Apr 25 18:38:17 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:38:17 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
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Thanks Dan - I don't contract to them - I just write each system for a fee - I always work on the basis that I own them and so far no client has wanted to challenge that stance. (I know from previous discussions on the list that ownership is no simple matter..)

Thanks for the details - 
Kath


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  From: Dan Waters 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:48 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  Hi Kath,

  I talked with an accountant this morning.  He said that a capitalized
  software purchase is depreciated over 3 years (straight-line).  This 'seems'
  to indicate that asking them to pay 1/36th of the 'purchase' amount every
  month from now on would be OK.  A $10,000 purchase would equate to a $278
  monthly payment.  The $278 is regular income to you, and does not end.  

  Instead of some fraction of the purchase price, you could try to calculate
  the monthly value they get, and then charge a portion of that.  This is a
  pretty reasonable approach - the customer pays for less than the value they
  get for as long as they are getting it.

  They could drop out at any time after 6 (or 12?) months - so the risk is on
  you to provide something that is worth more to them each month than they pay
  each month.  There will need to be a mechanism (or good contract) to turn
  off the software if they decide to discontinue.  

  What I think I'll do is offer continuing Tech Support and Warranty for as
  long as they use the software.  So I'll offer a Purchase License and a TSW
  License - customer's choice.  And, they can convert a TSW License to a
  Purchase License whenever they like.

  However - do you license your software or are you contracting with them to
  provide software that they will own?  If they will own it, then you'll have
  to come up with some additional service to make it worth their money. 

  ** On my website there is a spreadsheet intended for prospective customers
  to enable them to calculate for themselves the productivity increase they
  will experience by using my software to automate a business process.  Go to
  www.promationsystems.com/download.htm.  Download the compressed file that
  has an instruction document, an instructional video, and the spreadsheet.
  If you are a member of the AccessD list you have my permission to modify the
  spreadsheet for your business.  (I used Windows Media Encoder 9.0 to create
  the screen capture video.)


  Dan Waters




  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:14 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

  Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully
  customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a
  job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion.
  Additional work quoted separately.

  So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I convert
  that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that I
  get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do
  that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long does
  the arrangement run for??? 

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Gregg 
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
    Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


    It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the
  customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
  decision nearly a no-brainer.

    The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different
  that what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications
  quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for
  another solution.

    I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
  customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
  year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
  billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I
  can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

    Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions
  and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they
  would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because
  of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract
  (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that
  it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
  (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
      To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
      Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
      Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


      To All,

       

      Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought
  up
      the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept
  is
      that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
      services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

       

      This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
      discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
      have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which
  is
      actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little
  shocked
      if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to
  the
      old way of doing business.  

       

      I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I
  would
      have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
      continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
  income
      stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which
  might be
      easier to get into.

       

      Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
      software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
      method?

       

       

      Dan Waters

       

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr 25 19:29:33 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:29:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A90140820B@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Thanks Marty - it works well
DD 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, 22 April 2005 2:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters

In Word press  Ctrl and '  then press Shift E  It is an E acute or 201 decimal in extended Ansi To see the lot of keyboard shortcuts in Word Menu Insert--> Symbol and probably select Arial it has full unicode symbols there is a current controversy among the French concerning whether one should put accents on capital letters, and that whether those letters are majuscules or capitales  makes a difference (this is suggested in the excerpt from le Bon Usage  there are other people making stronger arguments based upon the same principle).

  Majuscules = handwritten capital letters
    Capitales  = printed or typed capital letters

My head hurts on this one.  I am a t?te carr?.


Darren Dick wrote:

>Hi all
>I appreciate this is way OT :-))
>
>If I hold down ALT and Type 0489 in MS Access I get the French E with 
>the little thingo above it (?) If I do it in Word (Or even in Outlook) 
>I get ?
>
>What is the Correct key stokes in Word to get ?
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren
>
>  
>

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr 25 19:28:31 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:28:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A90140820A@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Thanks Stuart
I did try the link and got a proxy error . I assumed it was our nOtwork at this end
Out nIT guys are always stuffing around with it and we have just moved to fibre, so I assumed it was our end

Thanks for the info and the link - :-))

DD


 

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Sent: Friday, 22 April 2005 1:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters

On 22 Apr 2005 at 13:09, Darren Dick wrote:

> Hi all
> I appreciate this is way OT :-))
> 
> If I hold down ALT and Type 0489 in MS Access I get the French E with 
> the little thingo above it (?) If I do it in Word (Or even in Outlook) 
> I get
> 
> What is the Correct key stokes in Word to get ?
> 

Try  Alt+0233 for lower case or ALt+0201 for uppercase,

 You could have answered this yourself if you had grabbed a copy of the Extended Character Map that I recommended the other day:

<quote>
A great little tool for answering this sort of question quickly is the Pricelessware (http://www.pricelesswar.org) recommended utility:

Extended Character Map
(Freeware)
Windows OS: Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000
Languages: English
Description: Extended Character Map is like the Windows Character Map utility but uses much bigger, easier-to-see characters. The utility is especially useful for viewing the pictures in a symbol or Dingbat font. 
Characters can be seen up to 100pt size. No more squinting at Webding characters trying to figure out "is that a race car or a textile factory?". 

The keystroke name is displayed in the program's status bar. The Decimal/Hex/Oct/Binary values are also displayed. Additionally, you can view the fonts with one or more attributes selected (Bold, Italic, Underline, Strikeout). Using ExtendedCharacterMap, any character or series of characters can be quickly copied to the clipboard.
Company: -- Author: Sony Arianto Kurniawan

Program description:
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6166,00.asp

download v 1.41 (extended.zip) (189 KB)
http://ftp.pcworld.com/pub/new/desktop/fonts/extended.zip 

</quote>
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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr 25 19:33:32 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:33:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901408213@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Thanks Penn
That's where I ended up
Thanks again

DD
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Penn White
Sent: Friday, 22 April 2005 11:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters

This also might work:

http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6166,00.asp

Penn

> Your link to Pricelessware is broken. It should be 
> http://www.pricelessware.org
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Apr 25 20:48:20 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:48:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
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On Ownership:

If you wrote it for them without a contract then they own that one copy but
not the copyright.  Even if you don't talk about it or put copyright into
your database or literature.  They can sell the copy they have to someone
else, but they can't keep a copy for themselves.

Without a contract you own the copyright.  You can copy what you made for
them as many times as you like and sell it for whatever you can get to
whomever you like.

Only a contract between you and them can change any of the above.

All the best!
Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

Thanks Dan - I don't contract to them - I just write each system for a fee -
I always work on the basis that I own them and so far no client has wanted
to challenge that stance. (I know from previous discussions on the list that
ownership is no simple matter..)

Thanks for the details - 
Kath


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:48 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  Hi Kath,

  I talked with an accountant this morning.  He said that a capitalized
  software purchase is depreciated over 3 years (straight-line).  This
'seems'
  to indicate that asking them to pay 1/36th of the 'purchase' amount every
  month from now on would be OK.  A $10,000 purchase would equate to a $278
  monthly payment.  The $278 is regular income to you, and does not end.  

  Instead of some fraction of the purchase price, you could try to calculate
  the monthly value they get, and then charge a portion of that.  This is a
  pretty reasonable approach - the customer pays for less than the value
they
  get for as long as they are getting it.

  They could drop out at any time after 6 (or 12?) months - so the risk is
on
  you to provide something that is worth more to them each month than they
pay
  each month.  There will need to be a mechanism (or good contract) to turn
  off the software if they decide to discontinue.  

  What I think I'll do is offer continuing Tech Support and Warranty for as
  long as they use the software.  So I'll offer a Purchase License and a TSW
  License - customer's choice.  And, they can convert a TSW License to a
  Purchase License whenever they like.

  However - do you license your software or are you contracting with them to
  provide software that they will own?  If they will own it, then you'll
have
  to come up with some additional service to make it worth their money. 

  ** On my website there is a spreadsheet intended for prospective customers
  to enable them to calculate for themselves the productivity increase they
  will experience by using my software to automate a business process.  Go
to
  www.promationsystems.com/download.htm.  Download the compressed file that
  has an instruction document, an instructional video, and the spreadsheet.
  If you are a member of the AccessD list you have my permission to modify
the
  spreadsheet for your business.  (I used Windows Media Encoder 9.0 to
create
  the screen capture video.)


  Dan Waters




  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:14 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

  Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully
  customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a
  job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion.
  Additional work quoted separately.

  So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I
convert
  that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that
I
  get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do
  that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long
does
  the arrangement run for??? 

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Gregg 
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
    Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


    It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the
  customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
  decision nearly a no-brainer.

    The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different
  that what your software delivers, you will either have to make
modifications
  quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around
for
  another solution.

    I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
  customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
  year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
  billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now
I
  can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

    Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for
additions
  and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where
they
  would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess
because
  of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance
contract
  (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear
that
  it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
  (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
      To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
      Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
      Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


      To All,

       

      Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He
brought
  up
      the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the
concept
  is
      that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
      services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

       

      This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
      discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.
They
      have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want,
which
  is
      actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little
  shocked
      if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to
  the
      old way of doing business.  

       

      I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I
  would
      have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of
course
      continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
  income
      stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which
  might be
      easier to get into.

       

      Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
      software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
      method?

       

       

      Dan Waters

       

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From pennwhite at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 26 06:21:30 2005
From: pennwhite at hotmail.com (Penn White)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:21:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
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Dan, et. al.

I've been lurking along in this thread and it has been brilliant.  Thank you 
very much.

Dan, would you mind posting some source references on your last point about 
copyright?

Rather than selling services exactly, I'm hoping to sell a 'niche-market' 
program but there will be a yearly maintenance/upgrade fee and 
client-specific enhancements will be billed separately.  Sounds like using a 
total hour scheme broken down into monthly payments for a big enhancement or 
a single price (but still hours-based) w/ maybe 1/3 up front, 1/3 when half 
done and 1/3 at completion might be a good business model?

Penn

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> On Ownership:
>
> If you wrote it for them without a contract then they own that one copy 
> but
> not the copyright.  Even if you don't talk about it or put copyright into
> your database or literature.  They can sell the copy they have to someone
> else, but they can't keep a copy for themselves.
>
> Without a contract you own the copyright.  You can copy what you made for
> them as many times as you like and sell it for whatever you can get to
> whomever you like.
>
> Only a contract between you and them can change any of the above.
>
> All the best!
> Dan Waters
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:38 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
> Thanks Dan - I don't contract to them - I just write each system for a 
> fee -
> I always work on the basis that I own them and so far no client has wanted
> to challenge that stance. (I know from previous discussions on the list 
> that
> ownership is no simple matter..)
>
> Thanks for the details -
> Kath
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Dan Waters
>  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:48 AM
>  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>  Hi Kath,
>
>  I talked with an accountant this morning.  He said that a capitalized
>  software purchase is depreciated over 3 years (straight-line).  This
> 'seems'
>  to indicate that asking them to pay 1/36th of the 'purchase' amount every
>  month from now on would be OK.  A $10,000 purchase would equate to a $278
>  monthly payment.  The $278 is regular income to you, and does not end.
>
>  Instead of some fraction of the purchase price, you could try to 
> calculate
>  the monthly value they get, and then charge a portion of that.  This is a
>  pretty reasonable approach - the customer pays for less than the value
> they
>  get for as long as they are getting it.
>
>  They could drop out at any time after 6 (or 12?) months - so the risk is
> on
>  you to provide something that is worth more to them each month than they
> pay
>  each month.  There will need to be a mechanism (or good contract) to turn
>  off the software if they decide to discontinue.
>
>  What I think I'll do is offer continuing Tech Support and Warranty for as
>  long as they use the software.  So I'll offer a Purchase License and a 
> TSW
>  License - customer's choice.  And, they can convert a TSW License to a
>  Purchase License whenever they like.
>
>  However - do you license your software or are you contracting with them 
> to
>  provide software that they will own?  If they will own it, then you'll
> have
>  to come up with some additional service to make it worth their money.
>
>  ** On my website there is a spreadsheet intended for prospective 
> customers
>  to enable them to calculate for themselves the productivity increase they
>  will experience by using my software to automate a business process.  Go
> to
>  www.promationsystems.com/download.htm.  Download the compressed file that
>  has an instruction document, an instructional video, and the spreadsheet.
>  If you are a member of the AccessD list you have my permission to modify
> the
>  spreadsheet for your business.  (I used Windows Media Encoder 9.0 to
> create
>  the screen capture video.)
>
>
>  Dan Waters
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
>  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:14 PM
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>  Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully
>  customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a
>  job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion.
>  Additional work quoted separately.
>
>  So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I
> convert
>  that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that
> I
>  get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do
>  that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long
> does
>  the arrangement run for???
>
>  Kath
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: Gregg
>    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>    Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
>    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>    It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows 
> the
>  customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
>  decision nearly a no-brainer.
>
>    The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different
>  that what your software delivers, you will either have to make
> modifications
>  quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around
> for
>  another solution.
>
>    I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
>  customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
>  year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
>  billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now
> I
>  can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good.
>
>    Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for
> additions
>  and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where
> they
>  would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess
> because
>  of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance
> contract
>  (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear
> that
>  it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
>  (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.
>      ----- Original Message ----- 
>      From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com>
>      To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>      Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
>      Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>      To All,
>
>
>
>      Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He
> brought
>  up
>      the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the
> concept
>  is
>      that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from 
> my
>      services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)
>
>
>
>      This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
>      discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.
> They
>      have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want,
> which
>  is
>      actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little
>  shocked
>      if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back 
> to
>  the
>      old way of doing business.
>
>
>
>      I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I
>  would
>      have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of
> course
>      continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
>  income
>      stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which
>  might be
>      easier to get into.
>
>
>
>      Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone 
> use
>      software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
>      method?
>
>
>
>
>
>      Dan Waters
>
>
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 26 08:16:16 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:16:16 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA5D@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F37572487BF1BD95861CB2CD2210@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm not 
worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP Pro...and it 
allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any way to call this 
function from Access/vba/api or something?

Thanks,

Mark

>From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
>
>If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out to
>WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.
>
>Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have not 
>used
>any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
>
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>
>Hello All,
>
>Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm 
>receiving
>
>a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import
>automatically.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Apr 26 08:38:10 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D43A@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I've played around with the vbAccelerator project:
http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp 

It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely
distributable.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files

Hello All,

The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm not
worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP Pro...and it
allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any way to call this
function from Access/vba/api or something?

Thanks,

Mark

>From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
>
>If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out to 
>WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.
>
>Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have not

>used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
>
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>
>Hello All,
>
>Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm 
>receiving
>
>a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import 
>automatically.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>

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From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:10:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page
Message-ID: <001201c54a69$c4cfc760$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Does anyone know how to manipulate a web page from VB/VB.net?  I need to
place values in text boxes, click radio buttons, click command buttons etc.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 26 09:25:06 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:25:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page
In-Reply-To: <001201c54a69$c4cfc760$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050426142504.VXAK2470.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

You need to talk to Drew. :) 

Susan H. 

Does anyone know how to manipulate a web page from VB/VB.net?  I need to
place values in text boxes, click radio buttons, click command buttons etc.




From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr 26 09:42:25 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:42:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving the binary data from a BLOB (SQL 2000)
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F05@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

List,

We are having an issue with uploading SQL data across our WAN.  The network speed from our remote sites is 384 kBs and we're sending across numerous data fields plus a images stored in a BLOB field.  The upload takes over 3 minutes per record with images but is instantaneous without them.  This upload time is unacceptable as you can imagine.  It ties up the server and no work can be done until the process runs it's course.  For the curious we're using ADO recordsets to pass the data from the client to the server.

I'm trying to determine the actual size of the images as they're stored in the SQL db (image field).  I have the following code that retrieves binary data for one record but I can't get it to show more than one.

USE myDB
GO
DECLARE @ptrval varbinary(16)
SELECT top 1  @ptrval = TEXTPTR(imagefield) 
   FROM tbldocs pr where imagefield IS NOT NULL
READTEXT tbldocs.imagefield @ptrval 1 25
GO

My questions are:
1. How to show more than one record?
2. How to get the complete data from the field?  The second parameter in @ptrval can be increased but all the data should be different sizes and I'd just like to be able to pull it without a parameter.

I need to pull about 20 images in binary format to get an estimate of a typical data send (one record can contain up to 20 images sometimes more).

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan




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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Apr 26 09:41:42 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:41:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3C7@main2.marlow.com>

I saw this email on the VB list, and already sent JC an example offlist.  I
didn't see this posted on the AccessD list though....

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page


You need to talk to Drew. :) 

Susan H. 

Does anyone know how to manipulate a web page from VB/VB.net?  I need to
place values in text boxes, click radio buttons, click command buttons etc.


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 26 09:49:31 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:49:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3C7@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <20050426144929.NERP2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, if anybody can help him, it's you. ;)  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page

I saw this email on the VB list, and already sent JC an example offlist.  I
didn't see this posted on the AccessD list though....

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page


You need to talk to Drew. :) 

Susan H. 

Does anyone know how to manipulate a web page from VB/VB.net?  I need to
place values in text boxes, click radio buttons, click command buttons etc.


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Apr 26 10:09:44 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright Ownership (was: Client Payment Methods)
In-Reply-To: <8057009.1114514876037.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAALjPHRgm5YUav3PpsOXep9wEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Hi Penn,

Unfortunately I don't have any specific references I can point you to.  This
is based on a discussion I once had with my patent attorney, and some other
things I've read along the way.  

Basically, if you create software applications then you are an author in the
same way that a book is written by an author.  If you buy a book, we all
know that we could re-sell it, but cannot make copies and re-sell those
copies.  Only the author has the right to do that.

There is a strong element in federal law that says that only the original
inventor or author can hold a patent or copyright.  That person can assign
rights to a company, but that must be explicitly done by contract.  For
example, when I have worked as a Design Engineer, I was required as a
condition of employment to agree to assign all rights to any inventions I
created to the company I was working for.  Without that agreement, anything
I invented, even if it was directly related to the company and I did it on
company time using their tools and equipment, would have been mine alone.

I would guess that many people on this list who have been hired as
developers signed a similar agreement relating to copyright and ownership of
the software they developed.

Hope this helps!


Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Penn White
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:22 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

Dan, et. al.

I've been lurking along in this thread and it has been brilliant.  Thank you

very much.

Dan, would you mind posting some source references on your last point about 
copyright?

Rather than selling services exactly, I'm hoping to sell a 'niche-market' 
program but there will be a yearly maintenance/upgrade fee and 
client-specific enhancements will be billed separately.  Sounds like using a

total hour scheme broken down into monthly payments for a big enhancement or

a single price (but still hours-based) w/ maybe 1/3 up front, 1/3 when half 
done and 1/3 at completion might be a good business model?

Penn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:48 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


> On Ownership:
>
> If you wrote it for them without a contract then they own that one copy 
> but
> not the copyright.  Even if you don't talk about it or put copyright into
> your database or literature.  They can sell the copy they have to someone
> else, but they can't keep a copy for themselves.
>
> Without a contract you own the copyright.  You can copy what you made for
> them as many times as you like and sell it for whatever you can get to
> whomever you like.
>
> Only a contract between you and them can change any of the above.
>
> All the best!
> Dan Waters
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:38 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
> Thanks Dan - I don't contract to them - I just write each system for a 
> fee -
> I always work on the basis that I own them and so far no client has wanted
> to challenge that stance. (I know from previous discussions on the list 
> that
> ownership is no simple matter..)
>
> Thanks for the details -
> Kath
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Dan Waters
>  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:48 AM
>  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>  Hi Kath,
>
>  I talked with an accountant this morning.  He said that a capitalized
>  software purchase is depreciated over 3 years (straight-line).  This
> 'seems'
>  to indicate that asking them to pay 1/36th of the 'purchase' amount every
>  month from now on would be OK.  A $10,000 purchase would equate to a $278
>  monthly payment.  The $278 is regular income to you, and does not end.
>
>  Instead of some fraction of the purchase price, you could try to 
> calculate
>  the monthly value they get, and then charge a portion of that.  This is a
>  pretty reasonable approach - the customer pays for less than the value
> they
>  get for as long as they are getting it.
>
>  They could drop out at any time after 6 (or 12?) months - so the risk is
> on
>  you to provide something that is worth more to them each month than they
> pay
>  each month.  There will need to be a mechanism (or good contract) to turn
>  off the software if they decide to discontinue.
>
>  What I think I'll do is offer continuing Tech Support and Warranty for as
>  long as they use the software.  So I'll offer a Purchase License and a 
> TSW
>  License - customer's choice.  And, they can convert a TSW License to a
>  Purchase License whenever they like.
>
>  However - do you license your software or are you contracting with them 
> to
>  provide software that they will own?  If they will own it, then you'll
> have
>  to come up with some additional service to make it worth their money.
>
>  ** On my website there is a spreadsheet intended for prospective 
> customers
>  to enable them to calculate for themselves the productivity increase they
>  will experience by using my software to automate a business process.  Go
> to
>  www.promationsystems.com/download.htm.  Download the compressed file that
>  has an instruction document, an instructional video, and the spreadsheet.
>  If you are a member of the AccessD list you have my permission to modify
> the
>  spreadsheet for your business.  (I used Windows Media Encoder 9.0 to
> create
>  the screen capture video.)
>
>
>  Dan Waters
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
>  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:14 PM
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>  Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully
>  customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a
>  job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion.
>  Additional work quoted separately.
>
>  So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I
> convert
>  that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that
> I
>  get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do
>  that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long
> does
>  the arrangement run for???
>
>  Kath
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: Gregg
>    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>    Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
>    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>    It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows 
> the
>  customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
>  decision nearly a no-brainer.
>
>    The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different
>  that what your software delivers, you will either have to make
> modifications
>  quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around
> for
>  another solution.
>
>    I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
>  customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
>  year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
>  billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now
> I
>  can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good.
>
>    Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for
> additions
>  and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where
> they
>  would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess
> because
>  of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance
> contract
>  (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear
> that
>  it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
>  (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.
>      ----- Original Message ----- 
>      From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com>
>      To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>      Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
>      Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>      To All,
>
>
>
>      Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He
> brought
>  up
>      the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the
> concept
>  is
>      that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from 
> my
>      services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)
>
>
>
>      This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
>      discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.
> They
>      have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want,
> which
>  is
>      actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little
>  shocked
>      if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back 
> to
>  the
>      old way of doing business.
>
>
>
>      I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I
>  would
>      have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of
> course
>      continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
>  income
>      stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which
>  might be
>      easier to get into.
>
>
>
>      Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone 
> use
>      software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
>      method?
>
>
>
>
>
>      Dan Waters
>
>
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Apr 26 10:25:14 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:25:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3CB@main2.marlow.com>

<blush>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page


Well, if anybody can help him, it's you. ;)  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page

I saw this email on the VB list, and already sent JC an example offlist.  I
didn't see this posted on the AccessD list though....

Drew

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page


You need to talk to Drew. :) 

Susan H. 

Does anyone know how to manipulate a web page from VB/VB.net?  I need to
place values in text boxes, click radio buttons, click command buttons etc.


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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 26 10:42:36 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:42:36 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D43A@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F24B9117B8503A25411CCC0D2210@phx.gbl>

I've had a few people suggest this site... but I can't hit the site.  I even 
tried the main page http://www.vbaccelerator.com, Has the site moved?

Thanks,

Mark



>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
>
>I've played around with the vbAccelerator project:
>http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp
>
>It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely
>distributable.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>Hello All,
>
>The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm not
>worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP Pro...and it
>allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any way to call this
>function from Access/vba/api or something?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
> >From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
> >
> >If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out to
> >WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.
> >
> >Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have not
>
> >used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
> >
> >Bobby
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
> >Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >
> >
> >Hello All,
> >
> >Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm
> >receiving
> >
> >a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import
> >automatically.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark
> >
>
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Apr 26 10:55:23 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:55:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright Ownership (was: Client Payment Methods)
In-Reply-To: <11235991.1114528498066.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
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This is from www.uspatentinfo.com/Faq6_PatentProcess.html.

The first Article of the U.S. Constitution, Section VIII, provides the basis
for the U.S. patent system. [U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 8, clause
8]. In this article, the Founding Fathers granted to Congress the power to
form a system "to promote the progress of Science and useful arts by
securing for limited terms to authors and inventors the exclusive right to
their respective writings and discoveries."

So - it looks like the basis for authors and inventors holding exclusive
rights is in the constitution, not just in federal law.

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Copyright Ownership (was: Client Payment Methods)

Hi Penn,

Unfortunately I don't have any specific references I can point you to.  This
is based on a discussion I once had with my patent attorney, and some other
things I've read along the way.  

Basically, if you create software applications then you are an author in the
same way that a book is written by an author.  If you buy a book, we all
know that we could re-sell it, but cannot make copies and re-sell those
copies.  Only the author has the right to do that.

There is a strong element in federal law that says that only the original
inventor or author can hold a patent or copyright.  That person can assign
rights to a company, but that must be explicitly done by contract.  For
example, when I have worked as a Design Engineer, I was required as a
condition of employment to agree to assign all rights to any inventions I
created to the company I was working for.  Without that agreement, anything
I invented, even if it was directly related to the company and I did it on
company time using their tools and equipment, would have been mine alone.

I would guess that many people on this list who have been hired as
developers signed a similar agreement relating to copyright and ownership of
the software they developed.

Hope this helps!


Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Penn White
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:22 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

Dan, et. al.

I've been lurking along in this thread and it has been brilliant.  Thank you

very much.

Dan, would you mind posting some source references on your last point about 
copyright?

Rather than selling services exactly, I'm hoping to sell a 'niche-market' 
program but there will be a yearly maintenance/upgrade fee and 
client-specific enhancements will be billed separately.  Sounds like using a

total hour scheme broken down into monthly payments for a big enhancement or

a single price (but still hours-based) w/ maybe 1/3 up front, 1/3 when half 
done and 1/3 at completion might be a good business model?

Penn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:48 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


> On Ownership:
>
> If you wrote it for them without a contract then they own that one copy 
> but
> not the copyright.  Even if you don't talk about it or put copyright into
> your database or literature.  They can sell the copy they have to someone
> else, but they can't keep a copy for themselves.
>
> Without a contract you own the copyright.  You can copy what you made for
> them as many times as you like and sell it for whatever you can get to
> whomever you like.
>
> Only a contract between you and them can change any of the above.
>
> All the best!
> Dan Waters
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:38 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
> Thanks Dan - I don't contract to them - I just write each system for a 
> fee -
> I always work on the basis that I own them and so far no client has wanted
> to challenge that stance. (I know from previous discussions on the list 
> that
> ownership is no simple matter..)
>
> Thanks for the details -
> Kath
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Dan Waters
>  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:48 AM
>  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>  Hi Kath,
>
>  I talked with an accountant this morning.  He said that a capitalized
>  software purchase is depreciated over 3 years (straight-line).  This
> 'seems'
>  to indicate that asking them to pay 1/36th of the 'purchase' amount every
>  month from now on would be OK.  A $10,000 purchase would equate to a $278
>  monthly payment.  The $278 is regular income to you, and does not end.
>
>  Instead of some fraction of the purchase price, you could try to 
> calculate
>  the monthly value they get, and then charge a portion of that.  This is a
>  pretty reasonable approach - the customer pays for less than the value
> they
>  get for as long as they are getting it.
>
>  They could drop out at any time after 6 (or 12?) months - so the risk is
> on
>  you to provide something that is worth more to them each month than they
> pay
>  each month.  There will need to be a mechanism (or good contract) to turn
>  off the software if they decide to discontinue.
>
>  What I think I'll do is offer continuing Tech Support and Warranty for as
>  long as they use the software.  So I'll offer a Purchase License and a 
> TSW
>  License - customer's choice.  And, they can convert a TSW License to a
>  Purchase License whenever they like.
>
>  However - do you license your software or are you contracting with them 
> to
>  provide software that they will own?  If they will own it, then you'll
> have
>  to come up with some additional service to make it worth their money.
>
>  ** On my website there is a spreadsheet intended for prospective 
> customers
>  to enable them to calculate for themselves the productivity increase they
>  will experience by using my software to automate a business process.  Go
> to
>  www.promationsystems.com/download.htm.  Download the compressed file that
>  has an instruction document, an instructional video, and the spreadsheet.
>  If you are a member of the AccessD list you have my permission to modify
> the
>  spreadsheet for your business.  (I used Windows Media Encoder 9.0 to
> create
>  the screen capture video.)
>
>
>  Dan Waters
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
>  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:14 PM
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>  Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully
>  customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a
>  job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion.
>  Additional work quoted separately.
>
>  So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I
> convert
>  that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that
> I
>  get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do
>  that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long
> does
>  the arrangement run for???
>
>  Kath
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: Gregg
>    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>    Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
>    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>    It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows 
> the
>  customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
>  decision nearly a no-brainer.
>
>    The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different
>  that what your software delivers, you will either have to make
> modifications
>  quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around
> for
>  another solution.
>
>    I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
>  customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
>  year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
>  billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now
> I
>  can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good.
>
>    Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for
> additions
>  and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where
> they
>  would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess
> because
>  of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance
> contract
>  (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear
> that
>  it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
>  (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.
>      ----- Original Message ----- 
>      From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com>
>      To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>      Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
>      Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>      To All,
>
>
>
>      Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He
> brought
>  up
>      the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the
> concept
>  is
>      that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from 
> my
>      services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)
>
>
>
>      This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
>      discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.
> They
>      have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want,
> which
>  is
>      actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little
>  shocked
>      if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back 
> to
>  the
>      old way of doing business.
>
>
>
>      I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I
>  would
>      have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of
> course
>      continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
>  income
>      stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which
>  might be
>      easier to get into.
>
>
>
>      Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone 
> use
>      software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
>      method?
>
>
>
>
>
>      Dan Waters
>
>
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Tue Apr 26 10:59:11 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:59:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAD9B@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

Ok, in 2003 how do you make a tab control look like it did in 2000? I
can't make it raised & it is this sickly pale green color & beige
background.

 

Even to make the controls on the tab sunken I have to go through each
choice in the Special Effect list first (shadowed, chiseled, then
sunken) to get it to show the way I want. Is this normal?

 

Virginia



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Apr 26 11:07:30 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:07:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D48E@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I just clicked on the link and it worked for me.  

I recall our old corporate firewall would block or mangle this site,
particularily when browsing with IE.  But then I upgraded to Firefox.
BIG improvement.  No looking back!

Here's a Google cache of the page I mentioned:
http://tinyurl.com/b9jho

Let me know if you need the source files.  I can send them to you
offline.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files

I've had a few people suggest this site... but I can't hit the site.  I
even tried the main page http://www.vbaccelerator.com, Has the site
moved?

Thanks,

Mark



>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
>
>I've played around with the vbAccelerator project:
>http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp
>
>It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely 
>distributable.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>Hello All,
>
>The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm not 
>worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP Pro...and it 
>allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any way to call 
>this function from Access/vba/api or something?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
> >From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
> >solving<ac
essd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
> >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
> >
> >If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out 
> >to WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.
> >
> >Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have 
> >not
>
> >used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
> >
> >Bobby
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A 
> >Matte
> >Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >
> >
> >Hello All,
> >
> >Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm 
> >receiving
> >
> >a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import 
> >automatically.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Tue Apr 26 11:14:14 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:14:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access2000
In-Reply-To: <s266c0b4.087@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKKEPJCJAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hello Gustav,
The article that I referred you to does talk about "self signed" certs and
how to make them in A03, but not in A2K.


Luck,

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:50 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in
Access2000


Hi Bob

But is it at all possible in A2000? I don't care that much if it is
"better" in later versions - it's not very difficult anyway.

/gustav

>>> bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/20 8:33 pm >>>
There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this
subject.
http://msaccessadvisor.com/


Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000. This
is
better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which version
of
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Tue Apr 26 11:20:49 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:20:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAD9F@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

Another thing I noticed with 2003: I can't change the SubDataSheetName
to None. I change it, save, but when I go back in it is set back to
Auto. How can I turn this off now?

 

Virginia



From James at fcidms.com  Tue Apr 26 11:38:11 2005
From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:38:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving the binary data from a BLOB (SQL 2000)
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F05@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <0IFK008V6BJ2TB@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Jim:
To answer your questions:
1) You are only getting 1 record because you are selected TOP 1 which will
only return a single record. Change that to TOP 20 and you will get 20
records
2) If you just want the size of your field, you can use: 
SELECT TOP 20 DATALENGTH(imagefield) FROM tbldocs WHERE imagefield IS NOT
NULL ORDER BY NewID()
That should give you the size of the field for 20 random records. If you
need the actual binary data, you'll probably need to use a cursor to loop
though the records one at a time.

Hope that helps.

James Barash

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:42 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving the binary data from a BLOB (SQL 2000)

List,

We are having an issue with uploading SQL data across our WAN.  The network
speed from our remote sites is 384 kBs and we're sending across numerous
data fields plus a images stored in a BLOB field.  The upload takes over 3
minutes per record with images but is instantaneous without them.  This
upload time is unacceptable as you can imagine.  It ties up the server and
no work can be done until the process runs it's course.  For the curious
we're using ADO recordsets to pass the data from the client to the server.

I'm trying to determine the actual size of the images as they're stored in
the SQL db (image field).  I have the following code that retrieves binary
data for one record but I can't get it to show more than one.

USE myDB
GO
DECLARE @ptrval varbinary(16)
SELECT top 1  @ptrval = TEXTPTR(imagefield) 
   FROM tbldocs pr where imagefield IS NOT NULL
READTEXT tbldocs.imagefield @ptrval 1 25
GO

My questions are:
1. How to show more than one record?
2. How to get the complete data from the field?  The second parameter in
@ptrval can be increased but all the data should be different sizes and I'd
just like to be able to pull it without a parameter.

I need to pull about 20 images in binary format to get an estimate of a
typical data send (one record can contain up to 20 images sometimes more).

TIA

Jim DeMarco
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr 26 11:49:25 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:49:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving the binary data from a BLOB (SQL 2000)
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F0C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Worked like a charm.  Thanks a lot.  Sorry I should have removed the "Top 1" (I was only getting one record without it before your code though).  The "Datalength" function is new to me.

Thanks,

Jim D.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of James Barash
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:38 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieving the binary data from a BLOB (SQL 2000)


Jim:
To answer your questions:
1) You are only getting 1 record because you are selected TOP 1 which will
only return a single record. Change that to TOP 20 and you will get 20
records
2) If you just want the size of your field, you can use: 
SELECT TOP 20 DATALENGTH(imagefield) FROM tbldocs WHERE imagefield IS NOT
NULL ORDER BY NewID()
That should give you the size of the field for 20 random records. If you
need the actual binary data, you'll probably need to use a cursor to loop
though the records one at a time.

Hope that helps.

James Barash

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:42 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving the binary data from a BLOB (SQL 2000)

List,

We are having an issue with uploading SQL data across our WAN.  The network
speed from our remote sites is 384 kBs and we're sending across numerous
data fields plus a images stored in a BLOB field.  The upload takes over 3
minutes per record with images but is instantaneous without them.  This
upload time is unacceptable as you can imagine.  It ties up the server and
no work can be done until the process runs it's course.  For the curious
we're using ADO recordsets to pass the data from the client to the server.

I'm trying to determine the actual size of the images as they're stored in
the SQL db (image field).  I have the following code that retrieves binary
data for one record but I can't get it to show more than one.

USE myDB
GO
DECLARE @ptrval varbinary(16)
SELECT top 1  @ptrval = TEXTPTR(imagefield) 
   FROM tbldocs pr where imagefield IS NOT NULL
READTEXT tbldocs.imagefield @ptrval 1 25
GO

My questions are:
1. How to show more than one record?
2. How to get the complete data from the field?  The second parameter in
@ptrval can be increased but all the data should be different sizes and I'd
just like to be able to pull it without a parameter.

I need to pull about 20 images in binary format to get an estimate of a
typical data send (one record can contain up to 20 images sometimes more).

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan




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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 26 11:50:36 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:50:36 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in
	Access2000
Message-ID: <s26e8d89.072@cactus.dk>

Hi Bob

Thanks, but it seems there is no luck. 
If you wish to digitally sign your code, forget A2000 and A2002/XP and
move to A2003.

/gustav

>>> bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/26 6:14 pm >>>
Hello Gustav,
The article that I referred you to does talk about "self signed" certs
and
how to make them in A03, but not in A2K.

Luck,

Bob

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:50 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in
Access2000


Hi Bob

But is it at all possible in A2000? I don't care that much if it is
"better" in later versions - it's not very difficult anyway.

/gustav

>>> bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/20 8:33 pm >>>
There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this
subject.
http://msaccessadvisor.com/ 

Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000. This
is better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which
version
of Jet you have.



From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Tue Apr 26 15:44:06 2005
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:44:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Autonumber/autoincrement
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB67F431@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

I have a database of oilfield injection wells. Periodically the wells
are changed from injecting water to injecting CO2 or visa versa. The
changes are independent from one well to the next. The records in the
table have well name, cycle number, injection fluid type and date of
change. I can build a form with drop down for well name and injection
fluid type. I could also use a calendar control for the date. I would
like the cycle number to fill in by itself based on the cycle number of
the previous record for the well getting a new record. Can this be done
using some kind of autoincrement? 

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Apr 26 17:05:59 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:05:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Autonumber/autoincrement
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337550@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Using a static function You could store the previous cycle number then call
it when needed.

Jim Hale

Static Function CycleNo(Optional intData As Integer) As Integer
    Dim intCurrent As Integer
    If intData <> 0 Then intCurrent = intData
   CycleNo = intCurrent
    
End Function

-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester A [mailto:kaupca at chevrontexaco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:44 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Autonumber/autoincrement


I have a database of oilfield injection wells. Periodically the wells
are changed from injecting water to injecting CO2 or visa versa. The
changes are independent from one well to the next. The records in the
table have well name, cycle number, injection fluid type and date of
change. I can build a form with drop down for well name and injection
fluid type. I could also use a calendar control for the date. I would
like the cycle number to fill in by itself based on the cycle number of
the previous record for the well getting a new record. Can this be done
using some kind of autoincrement? 

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 26 17:09:18 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:09:18 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Autonumber/autoincrement
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On 26 Apr 2005 at 15:44, Kaup, Chester A wrote:

> I have a database of oilfield injection wells. Periodically the wells
> are changed from injecting water to injecting CO2 or visa versa. The
> changes are independent from one well to the next. The records in the
> table have well name, cycle number, injection fluid type and date of
> change. I can build a form with drop down for well name and injection
> fluid type. I could also use a calendar control for the date. I would
> like the cycle number to fill in by itself based on the cycle number of
> the previous record for the well getting a new record. Can this be done
> using some kind of autoincrement? 
> 

You can do it by setting  CycleNumber to
DMax("CycleNumber","tblInjectionChanges","WellName = '" & cblWellname & 
"'") +1
Best place to do this is probably in the form's Before_Update event.



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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Apr 26 17:51:20 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:51:20 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in a
	bind.
Message-ID: <2270abd36444456aa84bb0e89fcf2cae@christopherhawkins.com>

Here's the deal.? One of my projects requires Invoice and InvoiceLine data to be pulled out of a SQL Server database and pushed into Quickbooks.? The client wants?it seamless, so I've been reading up on QBFC and QBXML to make it happen.

A month later, I am nowhere.? I even joined the Intuit Developer Network, and I'm finding the documentation to be useless, the developer forums to be useless, and the lightly-commented sample code to be a game of "guess the object model", with numerous things in the sample code that are not in the SDK documentation.

I need help.? And I can't seem to find anyone who has done this before.

Does anyone here have decent chops with QBFC or QBXML?? 

-Christopher-
 


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 26 19:54:59 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:54:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in a
	bind.
References: <2270abd36444456aa84bb0e89fcf2cae@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <426EE2E3.1090701@shaw.ca>

Is there any reason you cant use QODBC, I am not sure if it reads all 
the fields in Quickbooks in all versions and countries
You would want the read/ write Pro ODBC driver for $200 US
http://www.qodbc.com/qodbc.htm
Any there is a 30 day trial to play around with.
Here is tutorial how to hook to Access but you can use excel, ado etc..
http://www.qodbc.com/qodbcaccess.htm
I believe QBXML was designed to be mainly used for web apps.

Christopher Hawkins wrote:

>Here's the deal.  One of my projects requires Invoice and InvoiceLine data to be pulled out of a SQL Server database and pushed into Quickbooks.  The client wants it seamless, so I've been reading up on QBFC and QBXML to make it happen.
>
>A month later, I am nowhere.  I even joined the Intuit Developer Network, and I'm finding the documentation to be useless, the developer forums to be useless, and the lightly-commented sample code to be a game of "guess the object model", with numerous things in the sample code that are not in the SDK documentation.
>
>I need help.  And I can't seem to find anyone who has done this before.
>
>Does anyone here have decent chops with QBFC or QBXML?  
>
>-Christopher-
> 
>  
>

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr 26 20:59:29 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:59:29 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901408600@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

AFAIK you can't
I have had to re-do the 'look' of my screens <sigh>
But having said that I have seen 2003 installations give the old 'square
edge' buttons and some
Installations of 2003 give the 'rounded edge' buttons.
It might be an OS or Office SP issue - but whatever it is - I had to
make changes to accommodate it.
I have also noticed I can't get the 'new look' tab controls to be
exactly the same colour as my backgrounds.
They use a colour that Windows calls 'white smoke'
SO the background of my forms now has to be 'white smoke' if I want the
tab to appear ...um...'neatly'

(I think whitesmoke is 245 245 245 or 16119285 if you are using the
property sheet (Or something like it)

I hope I am wrong and someone can tell me a better way

See ya

DD


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Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2005 1:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

Ok, in 2003 how do you make a tab control look like it did in 2000? I
can't make it raised & it is this sickly pale green color & beige
background.

 

Even to make the controls on the tab sunken I have to go through each
choice in the Special Effect list first (shadowed, chiseled, then
sunken) to get it to show the way I want. Is this normal?

 

Virginia

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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Wed Apr 27 05:02:48 2005
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:02:48 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit
References: <200411120145.iAC1jUdQ007739@cooper.uws.edu.au>
	<019201c4c879$8a5ff900$e81865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <001301c54b10$43f421c0$9115758f@aine>

Lembit

Could you translate please



Mijn naam is Jan Peeters en ben student handelsingenieur aan de KUL.  Voor 
het vak "beleidsinformatica" heb ik de opdracht gekregen om een 
gevallenstudie uit te voeren waarin ten minste 3 thema's van de cursus aan 
bod komen.  Ik zal eerst een paar voorbeelden geven van de thema's: 
herbruikbaarheid in informatica systemen, overerving, persistentie en 
materialisatie, het gebruik van XML, web services, verschillende soorten 
databases, architecturen, SQL en hoe de bedrijfsstrategie eruit ziet met 
behulp van informatica.

Als er bij u in de organisatie verschillende thema's aan bod komen zou ik 
zeer graag de mogelijkheid krijgen om uw bedrijf als casestudy te nemen.





From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Wed Apr 27 05:35:23 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:35:23 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit
References: <200411120145.iAC1jUdQ007739@cooper.uws.edu.au><019201c4c879$8a5ff900$e81865cb@winxp>
	<001301c54b10$43f421c0$9115758f@aine>
Message-ID: <000401c54b14$d1e063a0$0800a8c0@s856>

Sorry, Martin,
not my language. I guess its Dutch, Maybe Erwin can help?

Lembit

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> Lembit
>
> Could you translate please
>
>
>
> Mijn naam is Jan Peeters en ben student handelsingenieur aan de KUL.  Voor 
> het vak "beleidsinformatica" heb ik de opdracht gekregen om een 
> gevallenstudie uit te voeren waarin ten minste 3 thema's van de cursus aan 
> bod komen.  Ik zal eerst een paar voorbeelden geven van de thema's: 
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> materialisatie, het gebruik van XML, web services, verschillende soorten 
> databases, architecturen, SQL en hoe de bedrijfsstrategie eruit ziet met 
> behulp van informatica.
>
> Als er bij u in de organisatie verschillende thema's aan bod komen zou ik 
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>
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 27 06:27:04 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:27:04 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5ABE@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Yes dutch

Received the same mail today.

He's a student at the KU Leuven University and has a task assigned for
his course IT Management to do a case study where at least 3 of the
folowing items are covered.
Reuseability of IT Systems, overerving (dont know this one),
persistance, materialisation, use of XML, web services, different types
of databases, architectures, SQL and how the company strategy looks like
with aid of IT.

If different of above items are present in your company he would ask to
do use you company for a case study.

I'm afraid my company is not big enough to cover these issues.

There was a questionnaire included, but it was in dutch to. I supose you
get the picture with this mail.

Greetz
Erwin


 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] For Lembit

Sorry, Martin,
not my language. I guess its Dutch, Maybe Erwin can help?

Lembit

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From: "Martin Reid" <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit


> Lembit
>
> Could you translate please
>
>
>
> Mijn naam is Jan Peeters en ben student handelsingenieur aan de KUL.
Voor 
> het vak "beleidsinformatica" heb ik de opdracht gekregen om een 
> gevallenstudie uit te voeren waarin ten minste 3 thema's van de cursus
aan 
> bod komen.  Ik zal eerst een paar voorbeelden geven van de thema's: 
> herbruikbaarheid in informatica systemen, overerving, persistentie en 
> materialisatie, het gebruik van XML, web services, verschillende
soorten 
> databases, architecturen, SQL en hoe de bedrijfsstrategie eruit ziet
met 
> behulp van informatica.
>
> Als er bij u in de organisatie verschillende thema's aan bod komen zou
ik 
> zeer graag de mogelijkheid krijgen om uw bedrijf als casestudy te
nemen.
>
>
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 27 06:29:38 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:29:38 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5ABF@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Don't know why you received this Martin, I tend to believe it needs to
be a Belgian company, probably prefered around Leuven to make commuting
easy.

But if you are intrested you should really contact him.
Most Dutch speaking Belgians (Flemisch) do speak and write some kind of
English.

Greetz

Erwin 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit

Lembit

Could you translate please



Mijn naam is Jan Peeters en ben student handelsingenieur aan de KUL.
Voor het vak "beleidsinformatica" heb ik de opdracht gekregen om een
gevallenstudie uit te voeren waarin ten minste 3 thema's van de cursus
aan bod komen.  Ik zal eerst een paar voorbeelden geven van de thema's: 
herbruikbaarheid in informatica systemen, overerving, persistentie en
materialisatie, het gebruik van XML, web services, verschillende soorten
databases, architecturen, SQL en hoe de bedrijfsstrategie eruit ziet met
behulp van informatica.

Als er bij u in de organisatie verschillende thema's aan bod komen zou
ik zeer graag de mogelijkheid krijgen om uw bedrijf als casestudy te
nemen.



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From Robert at servicexp.com  Wed Apr 27 06:38:23 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:38:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in
	abind.
In-Reply-To: <2270abd36444456aa84bb0e89fcf2cae@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAkFctmauQHEapbETsA84PTMKAAAAQAAAAPx9Q9kjsskuN78FFVr0g3wEAAAAA@servicexp.com>

Christopher,
 Did you join the QB Project team I tried to start a few months ago? I have
been real busy, but now should have some time to get the environment for the
discussion set up. I will be hosting it on my server, In Share Point. E-mail
me to let me know if you would like to help work on this project...

 Anyone else who would like to work on this project, just e-mail me.
Hopefully by the weekend, I will have the site completed and we can to start
work on it..  

Christopher,
 What I have so far is fairly rough code, but the system does work..

Robert Gracie
Robert @ ServiceXP  . Com  (remove spaces)

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in
abind.

Here's the deal.? One of my projects requires Invoice and InvoiceLine data
to be pulled out of a SQL Server database and pushed into Quickbooks.? The
client wants?it seamless, so I've been reading up on QBFC and QBXML to make
it happen.

A month later, I am nowhere.? I even joined the Intuit Developer Network,
and I'm finding the documentation to be useless, the developer forums to be
useless, and the lightly-commented sample code to be a game of "guess the
object model", with numerous things in the sample code that are not in the
SDK documentation.

I need help.? And I can't seem to find anyone who has done this before.

Does anyone here have decent chops with QBFC or QBXML?? 

-Christopher-
 
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From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Wed Apr 27 08:07:07 2005
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:07:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in
	abind.
In-Reply-To: <2270abd36444456aa84bb0e89fcf2cae@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <004201c54b2a$04461aa0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Good luck with that.  I gave up trying to get their QB-ODBC to work
correctly.

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in
abind.


Here's the deal.? One of my projects requires Invoice and InvoiceLine data
to be pulled out of a SQL Server database and pushed into Quickbooks.? The
client wants?it seamless, so I've been reading up on QBFC and QBXML to make
it happen.

A month later, I am nowhere.? I even joined the Intuit Developer Network,
and I'm finding the documentation to be useless, the developer forums to be
useless, and the lightly-commented sample code to be a game of "guess the
object model", with numerous things in the sample code that are not in the
SDK documentation.

I need help.? And I can't seem to find anyone who has done this before.

Does anyone here have decent chops with QBFC or QBXML?? 

-Christopher-
 
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Apr 27 08:26:00 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:26:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm i
	n a bind.
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337553@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Christopher, I've not pushed data up to QB but have used the QODBC driver to
link to QB tables and create Access tables. They have a data schema of QB at
the link below that you may find useful. Two thngs- the drive is s-l-o-w
since it translates to HTML. I haven't found anything faster. Second- QB
does not use a relational model which makes pushing data up everywhere it
needs to go a nightmare. Good luck
Jim Hale

http://www.qodbc.com/schema.htm

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in
a bind.


Here's the deal.? One of my projects requires Invoice and InvoiceLine data
to be pulled out of a SQL Server database and pushed into Quickbooks.? The
client wants?it seamless, so I've been reading up on QBFC and QBXML to make
it happen.

A month later, I am nowhere.? I even joined the Intuit Developer Network,
and I'm finding the documentation to be useless, the developer forums to be
useless, and the lightly-commented sample code to be a game of "guess the
object model", with numerous things in the sample code that are not in the
SDK documentation.

I need help.? And I can't seem to find anyone who has done this before.

Does anyone here have decent chops with QBFC or QBXML?? 

-Christopher-
 
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Wed Apr 27 08:29:34 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:29:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CADF5@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

I need to format a Time field so they always enter time as 2400, 2330,
etc. If they enter 1:00 I want it to change to (1300) the 24 hour time.
How do I do that?

 

Virginia



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Apr 27 09:16:56 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:16:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAD9B@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
References: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAD9B@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c92050427071629346e5b@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/26/05, Hollis,Virginia <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com> wrote:
> Ok, in 2003 how do you make a tab control look like it did in 2000? I
> can't make it raised & it is this sickly pale green color & beige
> background.
> 
> Even to make the controls on the tab sunken I have to go through each
> choice in the Special Effect list first (shadowed, chiseled, then
> sunken) to get it to show the way I want. Is this normal?

Virginia,

I received this e-mail from Stephen Bond, who cannot post at the
moment with this reply:

-=-=-=-=-

FWIW if this helps, there is an
option in Access 2003 which toggles between the new
(flat-looking) command buttons and the previous (much
clearer) raised version.

It is in Tools>Options>Forms/Reports>Use Windows Themed
Controls on Form

I haven't seen an answer to the original question come thru,
so hope this helps whoever was asking.

-=-=-=-=-

Hope this helps,

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preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Wed Apr 27 09:40:18 2005
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:40:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CADF5@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050427144019.CLQK17140.mta10.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>

Virginia

How will you know? If they enter 1:00, do they mean AM or PM?

If you have another field for AM/PM, then you can easily convert.

Check the AMPM field on BeforeUpdate.
  If AM, do not allow the time field to exceed 12:00.
  If PM, and time field is < 12:00, use the DateAdd to add 12 hours.
  If they enter 12:00 exactly, you should probably popup a window asking
them to clarify if they mean noon or midnight.

FYI - http://www.spacearchive.info/military.htm

Regards,

Bob Gajewski


 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 09:30 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time

I need to format a Time field so they always enter time as 2400, 2330, etc.
If they enter 1:00 I want it to change to (1300) the 24 hour time.
How do I do that?

 

Virginia

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Apr 27 10:32:01 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:32:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Double-clicking MDB in explorer does not open MDB...
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A37E80@ADGSERVER>

Hey,

I have a client that is having the problem that when she double-clicks the
MDB in explorer, Access opens, but the MDB does not open.  If she then does
file/open from within Access, it opens the database correctly.

Anyone have any ideas as to what may be going on and how to fix it?

Thanks,
Bobby


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 27 10:31:48 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:31:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A015@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can use an input mask of 0000;0;"_" to force them to enter the value
in military time and use a validation rule to prevent anything below
0000 or above 2400, but that's as far as it goes.  Since you and Access
can't read minds, you have no way of knowing whether they meant 0100 or
1300 hours, so they are responsible for entering it right.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:30 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time


I need to format a Time field so they always enter time as 2400, 2330,
etc. If they enter 1:00 I want it to change to (1300) the 24 hour time.
How do I do that?

 

Virginia

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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Wed Apr 27 10:38:20 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:38:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOEPMCPAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

A client came across this for me...

One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.  After
gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum to get
the total hours.

Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
6.00000023841858

Why the strange decimals?

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com






From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 27 10:45:14 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:45:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A017@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Assuming that Access/Office 2003 shares some behaviors with Visual
Studio.Net, the style is affected by the the theme and by whether the
object or application has been configured to support themes.  If you use
a classic windows style instead of the WinXP themes, everything may look
as it did before automatically.  

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Dick [mailto:D.Dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control


AFAIK you can't
I have had to re-do the 'look' of my screens <sigh>
But having said that I have seen 2003 installations give the old 'square
edge' buttons and some Installations of 2003 give the 'rounded edge'
buttons. It might be an OS or Office SP issue - but whatever it is - I
had to make changes to accommodate it. I have also noticed I can't get
the 'new look' tab controls to be exactly the same colour as my
backgrounds. They use a colour that Windows calls 'white smoke' SO the
background of my forms now has to be 'white smoke' if I want the tab to
appear ...um...'neatly'

(I think whitesmoke is 245 245 245 or 16119285 if you are using the
property sheet (Or something like it)

I hope I am wrong and someone can tell me a better way

See ya

DD


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2005 1:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

Ok, in 2003 how do you make a tab control look like it did in 2000? I
can't make it raised & it is this sickly pale green color & beige
background.

 

Even to make the controls on the tab sunken I have to go through each
choice in the Special Effect list first (shadowed, chiseled, then
sunken) to get it to show the way I want. Is this normal?

 

Virginia

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 27 10:53:09 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:53:09 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <s26fd194.077@cactus.dk>

Hi Reuben

He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
using data type Single for that.
Change to data type Currency ...

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
A client came across this for me...

One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours. 
After
gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum
to get
the total hours.

Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
6.00000023841858

Why the strange decimals?

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 27 11:00:02 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:00:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739BC@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I will wager that your hours are being captured in a double field.  If
so, change it to currency.  What you're getting is floating point creep,
which can occur even with simple addition/subtraction, and the only way
to avoid it is to not use a floating point data type.  

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:38 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


A client came across this for me...

One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
After gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a
sum to get the total hours.

Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
6.00000023841858

Why the strange decimals?

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com




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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Wed Apr 27 11:11:57 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:11:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE06@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

Does the field have to be text? I put it as Date/Time & it keeps saying
the value entered is not valid for this field.
 
Thanks for the help.
Virginia
 
*********************
You can use an input mask of 0000;0;"_" to force them to enter the value
in military time and use a validation rule to prevent anything below
0000 or above 2400, but that's as far as it goes.  Since you and Access
can't read minds, you have no way of knowing whether they meant 0100 or
1300 hours, so they are responsible for entering it right.
 
Charlotte Foust
 

 



From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Wed Apr 27 11:26:18 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:26:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
In-Reply-To: <s26fd194.077@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAMEPOCPAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never considered it
would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after all the work I did on
payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


Hi Reuben

He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
using data type Single for that.
Change to data type Currency ...

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
A client came across this for me...

One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
After
gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum
to get
the total hours.

Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
6.00000023841858

Why the strange decimals?

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com

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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Wed Apr 27 11:32:00 2005
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:32:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Double-clicking MDB in explorer does not open MDB...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A37E80@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <20050427163159.OXBT13270.mta11.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>

I don't know how technical your client is ...


Open Explorer, then click on View, Folder Options, File Types.

Navigate to .MDB

Click on Advanced, Open, Edit.

Make sure that the end of the Application Used To Perform Action has "%1"
(including the quotes). This is the parameter that tells Windows to pass the
db filename to Access.

For Access2K3, the string is probably: "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office 9.0\Office\MSACCESS.EXE" /NOSTARTUP "%1"

The "%1" also has to be in the DDE message
([SetForeground][ShellOpenDatabase "%1"]), but just looking for it should
help identify if this is the problem.

Regards,

Bob Gajewski




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Double-clicking MDB in explorer does not open MDB...

Hey,

I have a client that is having the problem that when she double-clicks the
MDB in explorer, Access opens, but the MDB does not open.  If she then does
file/open from within Access, it opens the database correctly.

Anyone have any ideas as to what may be going on and how to fix it?

Thanks,
Bobby
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 27 11:37:09 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:37:09 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <s26fdbe4.079@cactus.dk>

Hi Reuben

Charlotte a guy? You better be careful!

You mostly see this with subtraction (which includes addition of
negative values); I've never seen it with addition of positives.

If you can't change the source data type be sure to wrap the values in
CCur().
If you need more than the four decimals of Currency you may choose
Double but round the results whenever possible.

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 6:26 pm >>>
You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never considered
it
would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after all the work I
did on
payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


Hi Reuben

He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
using data type Single for that.
Change to data type Currency ...

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
A client came across this for me...

One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
After gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a
sum
to get the total hours.

Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
6.00000023841858

Why the strange decimals?

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 



From kost36 at otenet.gr  Wed Apr 27 11:38:05 2005
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:38:05 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
References: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D48E@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <000b01c54b47$7cda4e10$0100a8c0@KOST36>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:07 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


>I just clicked on the link and it worked for me.
>
> I recall our old corporate firewall would block or mangle this site,
> particularily when browsing with IE.  But then I upgraded to Firefox.
> BIG improvement.  No looking back!
>
> Here's a Google cache of the page I mentioned:
> http://tinyurl.com/b9jho
>
> Let me know if you need the source files.  I can send them to you
> offline.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
> I've had a few people suggest this site... but I can't hit the site.  I
> even tried the main page http://www.vbaccelerator.com, Has the site
> moved?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
>>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
>>
>>I've played around with the vbAccelerator project:
>>http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp
>>
>>It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely
>>distributable.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>>
>>Hello All,
>>
>>The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm not
>>worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP Pro...and it
>>allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any way to call
>>this function from Access/vba/api or something?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Mark
>>
>> >From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
>> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>> >solving<ac
> essd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
>> >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>> >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
>> >
>> >If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out
>> >to WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.
>> >
>> >Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have
>> >not
>>
>> >used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
>> >
>> >Bobby
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A
>> >Matte
>> >Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
>> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>> >Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>> >
>> >
>> >Hello All,
>> >
>> >Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm
>> >receiving
>> >
>> >a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import
>> >automatically.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Mark
>> >
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Apr 27 12:03:50 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:03:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Double-clicking MDB in explorer does not open MDB...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B8E409@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA75@ADGSERVER>

Hey Bob,

I have already done that.  Everything compared to what I had (which is what
you said).

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Gajewski
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Double-clicking MDB in explorer does not open MDB...


I don't know how technical your client is ...


Open Explorer, then click on View, Folder Options, File Types.

Navigate to .MDB

Click on Advanced, Open, Edit.

Make sure that the end of the Application Used To Perform Action has "%1"
(including the quotes). This is the parameter that tells Windows to pass the
db filename to Access.

For Access2K3, the string is probably: "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office 9.0\Office\MSACCESS.EXE" /NOSTARTUP "%1"

The "%1" also has to be in the DDE message
([SetForeground][ShellOpenDatabase "%1"]), but just looking for it should
help identify if this is the problem.

Regards,

Bob Gajewski




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Double-clicking MDB in explorer does not open MDB...

Hey,

I have a client that is having the problem that when she double-clicks the
MDB in explorer, Access opens, but the MDB does not open.  If she then does
file/open from within Access, it opens the database correctly.

Anyone have any ideas as to what may be going on and how to fix it?

Thanks,
Bobby
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 27 12:14:36 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:14:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
References: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOEPMCPAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <426FC87C.2080205@shaw.ca>

You will get this error with any series of long computer calculations.
The general way to resolve this,  is to round to the number of 
significant digits desired
 then do each addition or division etc.

When working with money the number of signicant digits  is the the 
smallest unit or 2 for decimal currencies
So you don't have to work this out for calculations.

 Here is a function I use for Rounding Currency,
Your accountant may use different rounding methods simple, banker's, 
synchronous or asynchronous

It takes care of sign problem and allows precision selection
of currency value. Not all currencies are decimal based, old turkish lira

Function RoundIt( _
    x As Currency, _
    Optional Precision As Integer = 2 _
    ) As Currency

    RoundIt = Sgn(x) * Int(CDec(Abs(x)) * 10 ^ Precision _
    + 0.5) / 10 ^ Precision
      Debug.Print RoundIt
End Function

There is an entire branch of mathematics that deals purely with error 
propagation.  It can give you
accurate guesses at what the final accuracy will be of mixed accuracy 
calculations.

ACC2000: Round or Truncate Currency Values to the Intended Number of
Decimals
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q210564

essentialy to round via bankers rounding (there are varieties of methods
for this, especially on rounding up or down on negative numbers)
so see this as well.

ACC2000: How to Round a Number Up or Down by a Desired Increment
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q209996

Simplest explanation of significant digits and rounding errors
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/math99/math99163.htm

http://www.rit.edu/~uphysics/uncertainties/Uncertaintiespart2.html
http://www.rit.edu/~uphysics/uncertainties/Uncertaintiespart1.html
http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/phy_labs/AppendixB/AppendixB.html


Knuth has a very good analysis of floating point errors


Reuben Cummings wrote:

>A client came across this for me...
>
>One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.  After
>gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum to get
>the total hours.
>
>Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
>6.00000023841858
>
>Why the strange decimals?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Reuben Cummings
>GFC, LLC
>phone: 812.523.1017
>email: reuben at gfconsultants.com
>
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 27 12:14:44 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:14:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A01C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

When I enter date and time separately, I always use a text field on the
*form* for time to avoid problems and control the format.  Sorry I
didn't specify.  If you are trying to use this on a table, you can't.
However, you can use the Short Time format, which is 17:00.  Then all
you need do on a form is use "00:00" for the format string.  Access
short time won't let you enter 2400, which has to be converted to 0000
hours in the form.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time


Does the field have to be text? I put it as Date/Time & it keeps saying
the value entered is not valid for this field.
 
Thanks for the help.
Virginia
 
*********************
You can use an input mask of 0000;0;"_" to force them to enter the value
in military time and use a validation rule to prevent anything below
0000 or above 2400, but that's as far as it goes.  Since you and Access
can't read minds, you have no way of knowing whether they meant 0100 or
1300 hours, so they are responsible for entering it right.
 
Charlotte Foust
 

 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 27 12:17:17 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:17:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739BE@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I've seen it with addition as well.  You can build a test in code and
loop multiple times adding 1 to the integer of a floating point and
testing the mod to see if there is a remainder.  Believe me, it will
occur.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:37 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


Hi Reuben

Charlotte a guy? You better be careful!

You mostly see this with subtraction (which includes addition of
negative values); I've never seen it with addition of positives.

If you can't change the source data type be sure to wrap the values in
CCur(). If you need more than the four decimals of Currency you may
choose Double but round the results whenever possible.

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 6:26 pm >>>
You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never considered
it would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after all the work I
did on payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


Hi Reuben

He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are using
data type Single for that. Change to data type Currency ...

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
A client came across this for me...

One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours. After
gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum to
get the total hours.

Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
6.00000023841858

Why the strange decimals?

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Wed Apr 27 12:44:03 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:44:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
Message-ID: <s26f9783.002@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I am whipping up a new program and I wanted to try something new for the
interface on the menus. I've had this "look" in my head, and I figured
I'd try it out on this program...the program seems pretty small and
easy, so it would be a good time to spend the extra time on some new
interface ideas.

Anyhow, I usually use command buttons, and I change the text color as I
mouse over them, or when the gain focus via the keyboard. I wanted to
try something slightly different and am experimenting with labels and
text boxes. Labels quickly proved unworthy of the task, because they
can't get focus...unless I am missing something here...so I have focused
my energy on developing text box buttons. I have them pretty close to
completion, and I like them, except they highlight the text and/or put a
cursor in them. Is there any way to not highlight the text inside and to
not get a cursor in the text box, even when it is clicked?

Thanks 

John W Clark


From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Wed Apr 27 12:51:07 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:51:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
In-Reply-To: <426FC87C.2080205@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAMEABDAAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I do that exact thing to calculate the amount payed.  This error is really
just an oversight on my part from several years ago.  I thought I had made
all numbers currency for these calcs.

However, I still didn't think an error would build up in addition of simple
decimals.

Anyhow, I have already programmed the data type change into the BEU (and
tested the results) so all my clients will get the fix next time they update
themselves.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


You will get this error with any series of long computer calculations.
The general way to resolve this,  is to round to the number of
significant digits desired
 then do each addition or division etc.

When working with money the number of signicant digits  is the the
smallest unit or 2 for decimal currencies
So you don't have to work this out for calculations.

 Here is a function I use for Rounding Currency,
Your accountant may use different rounding methods simple, banker's,
synchronous or asynchronous

It takes care of sign problem and allows precision selection
of currency value. Not all currencies are decimal based, old turkish lira

Function RoundIt( _
    x As Currency, _
    Optional Precision As Integer = 2 _
    ) As Currency

    RoundIt = Sgn(x) * Int(CDec(Abs(x)) * 10 ^ Precision _
    + 0.5) / 10 ^ Precision
      Debug.Print RoundIt
End Function

There is an entire branch of mathematics that deals purely with error
propagation.  It can give you
accurate guesses at what the final accuracy will be of mixed accuracy
calculations.

ACC2000: Round or Truncate Currency Values to the Intended Number of
Decimals
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q210564

essentialy to round via bankers rounding (there are varieties of methods
for this, especially on rounding up or down on negative numbers)
so see this as well.

ACC2000: How to Round a Number Up or Down by a Desired Increment
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q209996

Simplest explanation of significant digits and rounding errors
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/math99/math99163.htm

http://www.rit.edu/~uphysics/uncertainties/Uncertaintiespart2.html
http://www.rit.edu/~uphysics/uncertainties/Uncertaintiespart1.html
http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/phy_labs/AppendixB/AppendixB.html


Knuth has a very good analysis of floating point errors


Reuben Cummings wrote:

>A client came across this for me...
>
>One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.  After
>gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum to
get
>the total hours.
>
>Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
>6.00000023841858
>
>Why the strange decimals?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Reuben Cummings
>GFC, LLC
>phone: 812.523.1017
>email: reuben at gfconsultants.com
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From accma at sympatico.ca  Wed Apr 27 12:52:57 2005
From: accma at sympatico.ca (accma at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:52:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access
Message-ID: <20050427175257.GWV1659.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@mxmta.bellnexxia.net>

Hi group,

For a customer, I have a database in A97 with security that does not allow someone to simply open A97 and this database without using the mdw file.

This customer ask met if it's possible to import and export data from another database which is in "file maker pro".

I'm not familiar with file maker pro.  Would that be possible?

Thanks!

Annie



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr 27 13:00:36 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:00:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3D7@main2.marlow.com>

You can give 'labels' the focus, just not the default focus.  My new
MiniCalendar (which I'll get around to finishing one of these days) has
nothing but labels on it.  Because of that, you can 'move the focus' from
one label to another.  It's simply a matter of internally noting what has
the focus, and what's next, and then changing the look of the label, so that
it shows to have the focus.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:44 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons


I am whipping up a new program and I wanted to try something new for the
interface on the menus. I've had this "look" in my head, and I figured
I'd try it out on this program...the program seems pretty small and
easy, so it would be a good time to spend the extra time on some new
interface ideas.

Anyhow, I usually use command buttons, and I change the text color as I
mouse over them, or when the gain focus via the keyboard. I wanted to
try something slightly different and am experimenting with labels and
text boxes. Labels quickly proved unworthy of the task, because they
can't get focus...unless I am missing something here...so I have focused
my energy on developing text box buttons. I have them pretty close to
completion, and I like them, except they highlight the text and/or put a
cursor in them. Is there any way to not highlight the text inside and to
not get a cursor in the text box, even when it is clicked?

Thanks 

John W Clark
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Apr 27 13:11:16 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:11:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B8E442@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA78@ADGSERVER>

I think that the hidecaret api function will do what you want.

Here's a VB example:
http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_hide_textbox_caret.html

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:44 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons


I am whipping up a new program and I wanted to try something new for the
interface on the menus. I've had this "look" in my head, and I figured I'd
try it out on this program...the program seems pretty small and easy, so it
would be a good time to spend the extra time on some new interface ideas.

Anyhow, I usually use command buttons, and I change the text color as I
mouse over them, or when the gain focus via the keyboard. I wanted to try
something slightly different and am experimenting with labels and text
boxes. Labels quickly proved unworthy of the task, because they can't get
focus...unless I am missing something here...so I have focused my energy on
developing text box buttons. I have them pretty close to completion, and I
like them, except they highlight the text and/or put a cursor in them. Is
there any way to not highlight the text inside and to not get a cursor in
the text box, even when it is clicked?

Thanks 

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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Wed Apr 27 13:12:06 2005
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Don [ITS])
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:12:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
Message-ID: <E2B2D43190AF7948BF79EF0079153D3C01301860@PDAWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

John, 

I experimented with something similar, but I used transparent command
buttons over labels.  This allows you to use all the capabilities of
command buttons without being limited by their fixed visual style.  The
result of my experiment was pretty cool, but it was kinda flickery, so I
didn't actually use it for anything.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:44 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons


I am whipping up a new program and I wanted to try something new for the
interface on the menus. I've had this "look" in my head, and I figured
I'd try it out on this program...the program seems pretty small and
easy, so it would be a good time to spend the extra time on some new
interface ideas.

Anyhow, I usually use command buttons, and I change the text color as I
mouse over them, or when the gain focus via the keyboard. I wanted to
try something slightly different and am experimenting with labels and
text boxes. Labels quickly proved unworthy of the task, because they
can't get focus...unless I am missing something here...so I have focused
my energy on developing text box buttons. I have them pretty close to
completion, and I like them, except they highlight the text and/or put a
cursor in them. Is there any way to not highlight the text inside and to
not get a cursor in the text box, even when it is clicked?

Thanks 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 27 13:12:35 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:12:35 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <s26ff246.080@cactus.dk>

Hi Charlotte

It fails all right, but not you have to go beyond 16 mio.:

Public Sub TestSingle()

  Dim sng As Single
  Dim lng As Long
  
  For lng = 0 To 100000000
    If lng <> sng Then Exit For
    sng = sng + 1
  Next
  Debug.Print lng, sng

End Sub

It runs to:
 16777217      1.677722E+07 

/gustav

>>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 04/27 7:17 pm >>>
I've seen it with addition as well.  You can build a test in code and
loop multiple times adding 1 to the integer of a floating point and
testing the mod to see if there is a remainder.  Believe me, it will
occur.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:37 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


Hi Reuben

Charlotte a guy? You better be careful!

You mostly see this with subtraction (which includes addition of
negative values); I've never seen it with addition of positives.

If you can't change the source data type be sure to wrap the values in
CCur(). If you need more than the four decimals of Currency you may
choose Double but round the results whenever possible.

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 6:26 pm >>>
You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never
considered
it would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after all the work
I
did on payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


Hi Reuben

He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
using
data type Single for that. Change to data type Currency ...

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
A client came across this for me...

One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
After
gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum
to
get the total hours.

Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
6.00000023841858

Why the strange decimals?

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Wed Apr 27 13:14:23 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:14:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE0F@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

That looks a lot better. Thanks so much.
 
Virginia
 
**************
Virginia,
 
I received this e-mail from Stephen Bond, who cannot post at the
moment with this reply:
 
-=-=-=-=-
 
FWIW if this helps, there is an
option in Access 2003 which toggles between the new
(flat-looking) command buttons and the previous (much
clearer) raised version.
 
It is in Tools>Options>Forms/Reports>Use Windows Themed
Controls on Form
 
I haven't seen an answer to the original question come thru,
so hope this helps whoever was asking.

 



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Wed Apr 27 13:18:25 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:18:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE10@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

One more question.... Isn't setting the Tools, Options, etc specific to
each PC (Access settings)? So when someone else opens the form it will
look like it did with the sick light colors.

 

Is there something you can set on startup to change the setting to not
show the windows themed control on forms?

 

We have XP & Office 2003.

 

Virginia



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Apr 27 13:31:56 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:31:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
In-Reply-To: <E2B2D43190AF7948BF79EF0079153D3C01301860@PDAWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
References: <E2B2D43190AF7948BF79EF0079153D3C01301860@PDAWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c9205042711314173ed93@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/27/05, Mcgillivray, Don [ITS] <donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com> wrote:

> I experimented with something similar, but I used transparent command
> buttons over labels.  This allows you to use all the capabilities of
> command buttons without being limited by their fixed visual style.  The
> result of my experiment was pretty cool, but it was kinda flickery, so I
> didn't actually use it for anything.

I did something similar. I used picture boxes, labels and command
buttons to produce an "outlook" bar style sidebar for an app.

If anyone want to see it, let me know off-line (carbonnb at gmail.com)
and I'll strip the app to a bare minimum sample.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Wed Apr 27 14:18:05 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:18:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE1C@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

I never could get this right, so hopefully someone can explain it to me
so I can understand how to set up a table of names.

 

This new database has names for contact, issued to, issued by, closed
by, released by. Anyway, I know you aren't supposed to set up tables for
each type of name (I think). The right way is to set some kind of field
in the table that tells you what kind of person it is (the contact,
etc).

 

If you add a field to tbl_PermitNames (PermitNamesID, PermitName,) &
Type? 

 

When you add a combo box on the form for entering/selecting the name,
how does it know what type to add it to?

 

As you can see I am so lost on this.

 

Virginia



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Apr 27 14:41:26 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:41:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B8E49E@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA7F@ADGSERVER>

If I understand your question, you want to have a TypeID in the one table
(Maintbl).  In another table you would have the types with a TypeID as the
primary key.

You would set the record source to "SELECT TypeID,Type FROM Types;".  The
combo box would be bound to the TypeID field in the Maintbl table.

So, is that clear as mud now?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:18 PM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names


I never could get this right, so hopefully someone can explain it to me so I
can understand how to set up a table of names.

 

This new database has names for contact, issued to, issued by, closed by,
released by. Anyway, I know you aren't supposed to set up tables for each
type of name (I think). The right way is to set some kind of field in the
table that tells you what kind of person it is (the contact, etc).

 

If you add a field to tbl_PermitNames (PermitNamesID, PermitName,) & Type? 

 

When you add a combo box on the form for entering/selecting the name, how
does it know what type to add it to?

 

As you can see I am so lost on this.

 

Virginia

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Apr 27 14:43:04 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:43:04 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c9205042711314173ed93@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F352872A0EEBC7C512C1497D2220@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

I saw a few good examples of this a few years back.

One was from Candace Tripp:  http://home.earthlink.net/~ctripp1

...and the other from Ryan Shaw:  rnshaw at visi.com or rnshaw at integramn.net

I have samples of both if anyone wants...just request offlist.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
>Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:31:56 -0400
>
>On 4/27/05, Mcgillivray, Don [ITS] <donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com> 
>wrote:
>
> > I experimented with something similar, but I used transparent command
> > buttons over labels.  This allows you to use all the capabilities of
> > command buttons without being limited by their fixed visual style.  The
> > result of my experiment was pretty cool, but it was kinda flickery, so I
> > didn't actually use it for anything.
>
>I did something similar. I used picture boxes, labels and command
>buttons to produce an "outlook" bar style sidebar for an app.
>
>If anyone want to see it, let me know off-line (carbonnb at gmail.com)
>and I'll strip the app to a bare minimum sample.
>
>--
>Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
>Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
>preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
>shouting "What a great ride!"
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Wed Apr 27 14:51:26 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:51:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE20@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

Yes, clear as mud...
 
I don't necessarily want/need a type. I was wondering if that is
something you have to add to a table of names to make it work.
 
I couldn't see adding a table for each type of name (Issued by, Contact,
etc) since the names will be repeated in each table.
 
Should there be only one table listing the names? If so when you create
a report, how do you distinguish between the names? If I put all the
names in one table (tbl_PermitNames) and then put ContactID, IssuedID in
the main table. When you add a name to the Contact field on the form it
puts it in the tbl_Main as a number. When I create a report & add all
the name fields it will use only one table for the names
(tbl_PermitName) how would it know which field is the Contact, etc?
 
Probably getting worse on my explaination. How do you set up a table of
different roles for a person for multiple fields?
 
***************
 
If I understand your question, you want to have a TypeID in the one
table
(Maintbl).  In another table you would have the types with a TypeID as
the
primary key.
 
You would set the record source to "SELECT TypeID,Type FROM Types;".
The
combo box would be bound to the TypeID field in the Maintbl table.
 
So, is that clear as mud now?
 
Bobby

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 27 14:56:07 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:56:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A01C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20050427195607.IEKJ1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

This would mean extra work, but if you think the users will make mistakes
you could always let them enter regular time, mark it as am or pm and
convert it internally to military time. 

Susan H. 

However, you can use the Short Time format, which is 17:00.  Then all you
need do on a form is use "00:00" for the format string.  Access short time
won't let you enter 2400, which has to be converted to 0000 hours in the
form.



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 27 14:56:07 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:56:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE1C@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050427195619.IEOA1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Virginia, I could be wrong, so take this with a grain of salt -- but it
sounds like Contact, IssuedTo, IssuedBy, ClosedBy, ReleasedBy are categories
that describe each person. Before we go any further, would a "name" entity
have more than one category? 

Susan H.  

I never could get this right, so hopefully someone can explain it to me so I
can understand how to set up a table of names.




From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Apr 27 15:29:04 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:29:04 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D48E@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F18BE4FA63DAFD181CE9F64D2220@phx.gbl>

Brett,

Thanks for the shortcut...I was able to get to the link from home.

What I'm actually searching for is a way to use the 'uncompress or extract' 
feature that is part of Windows XP.  I found the 'expand' command line...but 
it only seems to work for .cab files, not .zip.  Unless I got the syntax 
wrong...it only copies the .zip files.

I've searched the web and found the same question asked over and over 
again...but no answers.

Any ideas of a command line or api or something to utilize this 'unzip' 
function built into Windows XP without any additional software?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:07:30 -0500
>
>I just clicked on the link and it worked for me.
>
>I recall our old corporate firewall would block or mangle this site,
>particularily when browsing with IE.  But then I upgraded to Firefox.
>BIG improvement.  No looking back!
>
>Here's a Google cache of the page I mentioned:
>http://tinyurl.com/b9jho
>
>Let me know if you need the source files.  I can send them to you
>offline.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>I've had a few people suggest this site... but I can't hit the site.  I
>even tried the main page http://www.vbaccelerator.com, Has the site
>moved?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
>
>
> >From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
> >
> >I've played around with the vbAccelerator project:
> >http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp
> >
> >It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely
> >distributable.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >
> >Hello All,
> >
> >The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm not
> >worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP Pro...and it
> >allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any way to call
> >this function from Access/vba/api or something?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark
> >
> > >From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
> > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> > >solving<ac
>essd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
> > >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
> > >
> > >If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out
> > >to WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.
> > >
> > >Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have
> > >not
> >
> > >used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
> > >
> > >Bobby
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A
> > >Matte
> > >Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
> > >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > >Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >
> > >
> > >Hello All,
> > >
> > >Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm
> > >receiving
> > >
> > >a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import
> > >automatically.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
>
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Apr 27 15:32:56 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:32:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
In-Reply-To: <28113831.1114626986933.JavaMail.root@sniper23>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAHbGnLsmTfEGHq3F2O9aD5AEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Virginia,

If you have a startup form then you can set options programmatically as the
application opens on each client PC.

Use the keyword SetOption in code.  Look for the SetOption help page.  From
that page click on the Set Options from Visual Basic link.  That will give
you the correct syntax for each option.  And there's a bunch of 'em!

HTH,

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

One more question.... Isn't setting the Tools, Options, etc specific to
each PC (Access settings)? So when someone else opens the form it will
look like it did with the sick light colors.

 

Is there something you can set on startup to change the setting to not
show the windows themed control on forms?

 

We have XP & Office 2003.

 

Virginia

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 27 15:32:53 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:32:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
References: <s26ff246.080@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <426FF6F5.6010703@shaw.ca>

Don't forget you must round to the precision needed in the intermediate
calculations to avoid bias or roundoff errors, regardless of the precision
of the variables used or compiler.
After doing one billion additions of .01 or say 1 cent
The difference in calculated values can be seen when you apply the
intermediate rounding function.
Applying this method will keep demented accountants out of your hair.

Final Total unrounded decimal     accurate  intermediate rounded total
 9999999.82515867                               10000000

 Sub CalcSum()
  'this may take several minutes to run
  ' add 1 cent 1 billion times and apply rounding
                        Dim i As Long
                        Dim iMax   As Long
                        Dim fSum  As Double
                        Dim fSuma  As Double
                        Dim fPenny As Double
                        i = 0
                        fPenny = 0.01
                        iMax = 1000000000
                        fSum = 0#
                        fSuma = 0#
                        For i = 0 To iMax - 1

                           fSum = fSum + fPenny
                           fSuma = fSuma + fPenny
                           'intermediate round to 2 decimal point precision
                           fSuma = Round(fSuma, 2)
                        Next i
Debug.Print fSum; fSuma
 End Sub


Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Charlotte
>
>It fails all right, but not you have to go beyond 16 mio.:
>
>Public Sub TestSingle()
>
>  Dim sng As Single
>  Dim lng As Long
>  
>  For lng = 0 To 100000000
>    If lng <> sng Then Exit For
>    sng = sng + 1
>  Next
>  Debug.Print lng, sng
>
>End Sub
>
>It runs to:
> 16777217      1.677722E+07 
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>cfoust at infostatsystems.com 04/27 7:17 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>I've seen it with addition as well.  You can build a test in code and
>loop multiple times adding 1 to the integer of a floating point and
>testing the mod to see if there is a remainder.  Believe me, it will
>occur.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:37 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
>
>
>Hi Reuben
>
>Charlotte a guy? You better be careful!
>
>You mostly see this with subtraction (which includes addition of
>negative values); I've never seen it with addition of positives.
>
>If you can't change the source data type be sure to wrap the values in
>CCur(). If you need more than the four decimals of Currency you may
>choose Double but round the results whenever possible.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 6:26 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never
>considered
>it would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after all the work
>I
>did on payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Reuben Cummings
>GFC, LLC
>phone: 812.523.1017
>email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
>
>
>Hi Reuben
>
>He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
>using
>data type Single for that. Change to data type Currency ...
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>A client came across this for me...
>
>One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
>After
>gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum
>to
>get the total hours.
>
>Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
>6.00000023841858
>
>Why the strange decimals?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Reuben Cummings
>GFC, LLC
>phone: 812.523.1017
>email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Wed Apr 27 15:54:37 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:54:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D64C@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

If I may be so bold...

Automatically changing another user's global settings to suit your
application's needs is considered by many (like myself) to be very
intrusive, and generally a poor practice.

However, there are valid reasons for needing to do this (I think you may
have touched upon one).  In this case, I would strongly suggest keeping
track of the user's original settings when your app launches and
restoring them when it closes.

Otherwise, be prepared for the confused users asking you why their other
Access apps look "different" since they ran yours.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

Virginia,

If you have a startup form then you can set options programmatically as
the application opens on each client PC.

Use the keyword SetOption in code.  Look for the SetOption help page.
>From that page click on the Set Options from Visual Basic link.  That
will give you the correct syntax for each option.  And there's a bunch
of 'em!

HTH,

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

One more question.... Isn't setting the Tools, Options, etc specific to
each PC (Access settings)? So when someone else opens the form it will
look like it did with the sick light colors.

 

Is there something you can set on startup to change the setting to not
show the windows themed control on forms?

 

We have XP & Office 2003.

 

Virginia

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 27 16:03:43 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:03:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739C0@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Use labels.  You can put an invisible button on top of them to get the
focus and handle the clicks.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:44 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons


I am whipping up a new program and I wanted to try something new for the
interface on the menus. I've had this "look" in my head, and I figured
I'd try it out on this program...the program seems pretty small and
easy, so it would be a good time to spend the extra time on some new
interface ideas.

Anyhow, I usually use command buttons, and I change the text color as I
mouse over them, or when the gain focus via the keyboard. I wanted to
try something slightly different and am experimenting with labels and
text boxes. Labels quickly proved unworthy of the task, because they
can't get focus...unless I am missing something here...so I have focused
my energy on developing text box buttons. I have them pretty close to
completion, and I like them, except they highlight the text and/or put a
cursor in them. Is there any way to not highlight the text inside and to
not get a cursor in the text box, even when it is clicked?

Thanks 

John W Clark
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Wed Apr 27 16:05:03 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:05:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D650@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I'm pretty sure MS doesn't extend zip support via API calls.  The expand
utility has been around for a long time (at least Win95) specifically to
assist installation of files stored in cabs.  You might find a freeware
app that allows command line unzip functionality, though.

I wrote a simple VB app a while back to manage our 20 GB SQL Server
backups.  It was run automatically each night to shell out to the WinZip
command line to automatically compress new backup files to an archive
folder and delete old archive files.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:29 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files

Brett,

Thanks for the shortcut...I was able to get to the link from home.

What I'm actually searching for is a way to use the 'uncompress or
extract' 
feature that is part of Windows XP.  I found the 'expand' command
line...but it only seems to work for .cab files, not .zip.  Unless I got
the syntax wrong...it only copies the .zip files.

I've searched the web and found the same question asked over and over
again...but no answers.

Any ideas of a command line or api or something to utilize this 'unzip' 
function built into Windows XP without any additional software?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:07:30 -0500
>
>I just clicked on the link and it worked for me.
>
>I recall our old corporate firewall would block or mangle this site, 
>particularily when browsing with IE.  But then I upgraded to Firefox.
>BIG improvement.  No looking back!
>
>Here's a Google cache of the page I mentioned:
>http://tinyurl.com/b9
.  I can send them to you 
>offline.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>I've had a few people suggest this site... but I can't hit the site.  I

>even tried the main page http://www.vbaccelerator.com, Has the site 
>moved?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
>
>
> >From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
> >solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
> >
> >I've played around with the vbAccelerator project:
> >http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp
> >
> >It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely 
> >distributable.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A 
> >Matte
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >
> >Hello All,
> >
> >The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm 
> >not worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP 
> >Pro...and it allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any 
> >way to call this function from Access/vba/api or something?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark
> >
> > >From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
> > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving<ac
>essd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
> > >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
> > >
> > >If you do not want to use a
the command line interface to WinZip.
> > >
> > >Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have

> > >not
> >
> > >used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
> > >
> > >Bobby
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A 
> > >Matte
> > >Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
> > >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > >Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >
> > >
> > >Hello All,
> > >
> > >Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm 
> > >receiving
> > >
> > >a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import 
> > >automatically.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >

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From max at sherman.org.uk  Wed Apr 27 17:00:15 2005
From: max at sherman.org.uk (accessd)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:00:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time
In-Reply-To: <20050427195607.IEKJ1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050427220001.TRAV5678.aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@server>

Or, going to perhaps as an extreme, two rotating selection boxes (up/down
arrows) to circulate hours (from 00 to 23) and a second for mins (from 00 to
59).  Wouldn't go there myself, but perhaps an option under some
circumstances.  At least it would be absolutely accurate especially if
populated from the System Time for 'Time now/Time future' entries whereby an
'Enter/Click' would accept the defaults as presented.
Max Sherman
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: 27 April 2005 20:56
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Military Time

This would mean extra work, but if you think the users will make mistakes
you could always let them enter regular time, mark it as am or pm and
convert it internally to military time. 

Susan H. 

However, you can use the Short Time format, which is 17:00.  Then all you
need do on a form is use "00:00" for the format string.  Access short time
won't let you enter 2400, which has to be converted to 0000 hours in the
form.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 27 17:09:52 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:09:52 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D650@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <42709A50.32232.C6AECB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Apr 2005 at 16:05, Brett Barabash wrote:

> I'm pretty sure MS doesn't extend zip support via API calls.  The expand
> utility has been around for a long time (at least Win95) specifically to
> assist installation of files stored in cabs.  You might find a freeware
> app that allows command line unzip functionality, though.
> 
> I wrote a simple VB app a while back to manage our 20 GB SQL Server
> backups.  It was run automatically each night to shell out to the WinZip
> command line to automatically compress new backup files to an archive
> folder and delete old archive files.
> 
> 

XP uses zipfld.dll and Wzipfldr.dll for these functions. MS do not appear 
to have not released an API for these libraries. (Googling either of these 
names with "API" doesn't return a single hit)
-- 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 27 17:12:36 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:12:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739C1@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Doesn't JavaScript expose it?  I know I used the jscript library in dot
net to get at zip/unzip functionality.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


I'm pretty sure MS doesn't extend zip support via API calls.  The expand
utility has been around for a long time (at least Win95) specifically to
assist installation of files stored in cabs.  You might find a freeware
app that allows command line unzip functionality, though.

I wrote a simple VB app a while back to manage our 20 GB SQL Server
backups.  It was run automatically each night to shell out to the WinZip
command line to automatically compress new backup files to an archive
folder and delete old archive files.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:29 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files

Brett,

Thanks for the shortcut...I was able to get to the link from home.

What I'm actually searching for is a way to use the 'uncompress or
extract' 
feature that is part of Windows XP.  I found the 'expand' command
line...but it only seems to work for .cab files, not .zip.  Unless I got
the syntax wrong...it only copies the .zip files.

I've searched the web and found the same question asked over and over
again...but no answers.

Any ideas of a command line or api or something to utilize this 'unzip' 
function built into Windows XP without any additional software?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:07:30 -0500
>
>I just clicked on the link and it worked for me.
>
>I recall our old corporate firewall would block or mangle this site,
>particularily when browsing with IE.  But then I upgraded to Firefox.
>BIG improvement.  No looking back!
>
>Here's a Google cache of the page I mentioned: http://tinyurl.com/b9
.  I can send them to you 
>offline.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>I've had a few people suggest this site... but I can't hit the site.  I

>even tried the main page http://www.vbaccelerator.com, Has the site
>moved?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
>
>
> >From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
> >solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
> >
> >I've played around with the vbAccelerator project: 
> >http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp
> >
> >It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely
> >distributable.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A
> >Matte
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >
> >Hello All,
> >
> >The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm
> >not worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP 
> >Pro...and it allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any 
> >way to call this function from Access/vba/api or something?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark
> >
> > >From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
> > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving<ac
>essd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
> > >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
> > >
> > >If you do not want to use a
the command line interface to WinZip.
> > >
> > >Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have

> > >not
> >
> > >used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
> > >
> > >Bobby
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A
> > >Matte
> > >Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
> > >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > >Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >
> > >
> > >Hello All,
> > >
> > >Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm
> > >receiving
> > >
> > >a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import
> > >automatically.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 27 17:16:19 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:16:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE20@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <42709BD3.4560.CC9673@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Apr 2005 at 15:51, Hollis,Virginia wrote:

> Should there be only one table listing the names? If so when you create
> a report, how do you distinguish between the names? If I put all the
> names in one table (tbl_PermitNames) and then put ContactID, IssuedID in
> the main table. When you add a name to the Contact field on the form it
> puts it in the tbl_Main as a number. When I create a report & add all
> the name fields it will use only one table for the names
> (tbl_PermitName) how would it know which field is the Contact, etc?
>  

When you create a query for a report, you need to include the names table 
multiple times, one for each category and link each category to a different 
instance of the table.  

If you do it in the Query Designer, Access will automatically create an 
alais for each instance of the table consisting of the table name plus a 
numeric suffix.

So you would have links
ContactID ---- tblNames.ID
IssuedID -------tblNames_1.ID
ReturnedID --------tblNames_2.ID etc


-- 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr 27 17:18:14 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:18:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3E3@main2.marlow.com>

Sorry for the delay.....but I've been a little swamped during this thread.
Ironically, I am rebuilding an application that 'auto' extracts files from
zips.  It's probably more complex then what you are looking for though. 

I host a realty website (remax realtors).  It has a ton of properties, which
are updated regularly.  The updates are posted to an FTP site, and are
zipped.  The zip files contain both delimited text files with the property
information, and .jpg files with images for the property.

My original application used the INet control in VB, to download the files
to a directory.  Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line that
unzipped all of the files to that folder.  That was actually pretty easy to
do. The REAL fun part was then to extract all of the information from the
unzipped text files, update the database, and then sort all the pictures
(and create thumbnails for them).  The only trick on the first part was the
unzipping.  I found and Add-on for WinZip, which works perfectly, but the
only catch is that you have to have a registered version of WinZip for it to
truly work automated.  If it's not registered, the command line prompts you
for things...which is a little quirky for an 'automated' system.  So I
splurged on the $29 to register WinZip.  It was money well spent.  The
command line works wonderfully, and better yet, the registered version of
WinZip has a lot of neat features to use.

The reason I am rebuilding this application, is because I spent the last few
weeks rebuilding my home network.  Now that I have everything setup at home
(almost), I want to improve this process.  It's downloading about 1.5 gigs
worth of zip files, which even over my 3 megabit connection, takes a while.
Then it unzips them (which can take just as long, or longer), then it runs
the 'update' process.  During the download, doing anything on my own crawls
to dialup speed sometimes.  During the rest, that server is pretty tied up.
I decided to change the download/unzip process, and also modify the update
process, so that my customers will be able to track what has been updated.
In the download/unzip phase, I was using the INet control, which is quirky,
and the way I had it setup, I knew what file was downloading, but not how
big it was, or how fast it was downloading, and I couldn't pause it, only
kill the whole process.  So the new process (which I have the dl/unzip phase
done, working on the new update process) downloads everything using API
calls, and not only shows the file size, but how much has been downloaded
and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because the
FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....).  So now, if I
want to use the net at high speeds, when this thing is running, I can just
go to the server, and pause the process.  I also made a modification to the
zip process.  Instead of one big unzip '*.zip' command line, I have the VB
program start a new thread, and that thread starts runs the unzip process
for one zip file.  Works like a charm.  (It's all event driven too, so when
the last zip thread is done, it raises an event the main process can use to
launch the update process).

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:29 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Brett,

Thanks for the shortcut...I was able to get to the link from home.

What I'm actually searching for is a way to use the 'uncompress or extract' 
feature that is part of Windows XP.  I found the 'expand' command line...but

it only seems to work for .cab files, not .zip.  Unless I got the syntax 
wrong...it only copies the .zip files.

I've searched the web and found the same question asked over and over 
again...but no answers.

Any ideas of a command line or api or something to utilize this 'unzip' 
function built into Windows XP without any additional software?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:07:30 -0500
>
>I just clicked on the link and it worked for me.
>
>I recall our old corporate firewall would block or mangle this site,
>particularily when browsing with IE.  But then I upgraded to Firefox.
>BIG improvement.  No looking back!
>
>Here's a Google cache of the page I mentioned:
>http://tinyurl.com/b9jho
>
>Let me know if you need the source files.  I can send them to you
>offline.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>I've had a few people suggest this site... but I can't hit the site.  I
>even tried the main page http://www.vbaccelerator.com, Has the site
>moved?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
>
>
> >From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
> >
> >I've played around with the vbAccelerator project:
> >http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp
> >
> >It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely
> >distributable.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >
> >Hello All,
> >
> >The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm not
> >worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP Pro...and it
> >allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any way to call
> >this function from Access/vba/api or something?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark
> >
> > >From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
> > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> > >solving<ac
>essd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
> > >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
> > >
> > >If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out
> > >to WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.
> > >
> > >Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have
> > >not
> >
> > >used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
> > >
> > >Bobby
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A
> > >Matte
> > >Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
> > >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > >Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >
> > >
> > >Hello All,
> > >
> > >Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm
> > >receiving
> > >
> > >a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import
> > >automatically.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 27 17:27:15 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:27:15 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3E3@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <42709E63.8824.D698F3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Apr 2005 at 17:18, DWUTKA at marlow.com wrote:

> and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because the
> FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....). 

Just throw an occasional NOOP at the server :-)


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From Robert at servicexp.com  Wed Apr 27 17:59:17 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:59:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm
	inabind.
Message-ID: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4E78@gbsserver.GBS.local>

It's works very good so far. I have passed over 2 millions dollars across the code in the last 6 months with very little problems.

Robert  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm inabind.

Good luck with that.  I gave up trying to get their QB-ODBC to work correctly.

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in abind.


Here's the deal.? One of my projects requires Invoice and InvoiceLine data to be pulled out of a SQL Server database and pushed into Quickbooks.? The client wants?it seamless, so I've been reading up on QBFC and QBXML to make it happen.

A month later, I am nowhere.? I even joined the Intuit Developer Network, and I'm finding the documentation to be useless, the developer forums to be useless, and the lightly-commented sample code to be a game of "guess the object model", with numerous things in the sample code that are not in the SDK documentation.

I need help.? And I can't seem to find anyone who has done this before.

Does anyone here have decent chops with QBFC or QBXML?? 

-Christopher-
 
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Apr 27 18:39:23 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:39:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
In-Reply-To: <2949157.1114637225877.JavaMail.root@sniper18>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAtfHOxPn9iEGApAPvF6xlRgEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

If I may respond...

I agree with Brett, if your apps are working in an environment where your
users are going to be aware of what's happening and be concerned about it. 

If not - the options are all yours!


Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

If I may be so bold...

Automatically changing another user's global settings to suit your
application's needs is considered by many (like myself) to be very
intrusive, and generally a poor practice.

However, there are valid reasons for needing to do this (I think you may
have touched upon one).  In this case, I would strongly suggest keeping
track of the user's original settings when your app launches and
restoring them when it closes.

Otherwise, be prepared for the confused users asking you why their other
Access apps look "different" since they ran yours.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

Virginia,

If you have a startup form then you can set options programmatically as
the application opens on each client PC.

Use the keyword SetOption in code.  Look for the SetOption help page.
>From that page click on the Set Options from Visual Basic link.  That
will give you the correct syntax for each option.  And there's a bunch
of 'em!

HTH,

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

One more question.... Isn't setting the Tools, Options, etc specific to
each PC (Access settings)? So when someone else opens the form it will
look like it did with the sick light colors.

 

Is there something you can set on startup to change the setting to not
show the windows themed control on forms?

 

We have XP & Office 2003.

 

Virginia

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From ldoering at symphonyinfo.com  Wed Apr 27 20:18:30 2005
From: ldoering at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:18:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082645@dewey.Symphony.local>

Annie,

I have found that FileMaker Pro can export to .xls or .dbf, but it isn't
itself a format that Access can link to.  So your import will have to be
a two step process, one an export from within FileMaker Pro, then a
separate import into Access.  Your best hope will be to get some
familiarity with FileMaker Pro:  they have a 30-day free trial at
https://www.filemaker.com/downloads/trial_download.html

Good luck!  

Liz



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
accma at sympatico.ca
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:16 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access

Hi group,

For a customer, I have a database in A97 with security that does not
allow someone to simply open A97 and this database without using the mdw
file.

This customer ask met if it's possible to import and export data from
another database which is in "file maker pro".

I'm not familiar with file maker pro.  Would that be possible?

Thanks!

Annie

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 27 20:55:20 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:55:20 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access
In-Reply-To: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082645@dewey.Symphony.local>
Message-ID: <4270CF28.12820.1951A2D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Apr 2005 at 20:18, Liz Doering wrote:

> Annie,
> 
> I have found that FileMaker Pro can export to .xls or .dbf, but it isn't
> itself a format that Access can link to.  So your import will have to be
> a two step process, one an export from within FileMaker Pro, then a
> separate import into Access.  Your best hope will be to get some
> familiarity with FileMaker Pro:  they have a 30-day free trial at
> https://www.filemaker.com/downloads/trial_download.html
> 


Filemaker Pro claims to allow you to access it's data from other 
applications using ODBC, but there is very little detail on their website.
I suspect the ODBC driver comes as part of their Development Package.

You could also try the Fielmaker Pro ODBC driver at 
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/1602


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 28 03:35:33 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:35:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <s270bc8d.083@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

That's right, but Charlotte mentioned adding 1 not 0.01.

However, if anyone at this point still are confident using Double (or <
gosh> Single) for decimals, I modified your test.
This is scary. Notes follow the function:

Sub CalcSum()
  
  ' This will take a fraction of a second to run.
  ' Add 1 cent up to 1 billion times and apply rounding.
  ' Exit at first encountered error.
  
  Dim i As Long
  Dim iMax   As Long
  Dim fSum  As Double
  Dim fSuma  As Double
  Dim fPenny As Double
  i = 0
  fPenny = 0.01
  iMax = 1000000000
  fSum = 0#
  fSuma = 0#
  For i = 0 To iMax - 1
    fSum = fSum + fPenny
    fSuma = fSuma + fPenny
    'intermediate round to 2 decimal point precision
    fSuma = Round(fSuma, 2)
    ' Exit if an error has occurred.
    If fSum <> fSuma Then Exit For
  Next i
  
  Debug.Print fSum; fSuma, fSum - fSuma

End Sub

Now, take your guess - how many loops will run? Ten thousand? 
You'll be in for a surprise!

Note that even though fSum and fSuma display the same result, they
don't compare.
You have to do the fSum - fSuma subtraction to have the error
displayed.

/gustav

>>> martyconnelly at shaw.ca 04/27 10:32 pm >>>
Don't forget you must round to the precision needed in the
intermediate
calculations to avoid bias or roundoff errors, regardless of the
precision
of the variables used or compiler.
After doing one billion additions of .01 or say 1 cent
The difference in calculated values can be seen when you apply the
intermediate rounding function.
Applying this method will keep demented accountants out of your hair.

Final Total unrounded decimal     accurate  intermediate rounded total
 9999999.82515867                               10000000

 Sub CalcSum()
  'this may take several minutes to run
  ' add 1 cent 1 billion times and apply rounding
                        Dim i As Long
                        Dim iMax   As Long
                        Dim fSum  As Double
                        Dim fSuma  As Double
                        Dim fPenny As Double
                        i = 0
                        fPenny = 0.01
                        iMax = 1000000000
                        fSum = 0#
                        fSuma = 0#
                        For i = 0 To iMax - 1

                           fSum = fSum + fPenny
                           fSuma = fSuma + fPenny
                           'intermediate round to 2 decimal point
precision
                           fSuma = Round(fSuma, 2)
                        Next i
Debug.Print fSum; fSuma
 End Sub


Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Charlotte
>
>It fails all right, but not you have to go beyond 16 mio.:
>
>Public Sub TestSingle()
>
>  Dim sng As Single
>  Dim lng As Long
>  
>  For lng = 0 To 100000000
>    If lng <> sng Then Exit For
>    sng = sng + 1
>  Next
>  Debug.Print lng, sng
>
>End Sub
>
>It runs to:
> 16777217      1.677722E+07 
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>cfoust at infostatsystems.com 04/27 7:17 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>I've seen it with addition as well.  You can build a test in code and
>loop multiple times adding 1 to the integer of a floating point and
>testing the mod to see if there is a remainder.  Believe me, it will
>occur.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:37 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
>
>
>Hi Reuben
>
>Charlotte a guy? You better be careful!
>
>You mostly see this with subtraction (which includes addition of
>negative values); I've never seen it with addition of positives.
>
>If you can't change the source data type be sure to wrap the values
in
>CCur(). If you need more than the four decimals of Currency you may
>choose Double but round the results whenever possible.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 6:26 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never
>considered it would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after
all the work
>I did on payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Reuben Cummings
>GFC, LLC
>phone: 812.523.1017
>email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
>
>
>Hi Reuben
>
>He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
>using
>data type Single for that. Change to data type Currency ...
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>A client came across this for me...
>
>One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
>After gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with
a sum
>to get the total hours.
>
>Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
>6.00000023841858
>
>Why the strange decimals?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Reuben Cummings
>GFC, LLC
>phone: 812.523.1017
>email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr 28 06:40:51 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:40:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE29@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

Yes, the name of a person can fit into any or all categories. The
Contact, Closedby, ReleasedBy, etc call all be the same person.
 
************
Virginia, I could be wrong, so take this with a grain of salt -- but it
sounds like Contact, IssuedTo, IssuedBy, ClosedBy, ReleasedBy are
categories
that describe each person. Before we go any further, would a "name"
entity
have more than one category? 
 

Susan H.



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr 28 06:45:19 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:45:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE2A@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

 
That makes sense. I will make sure I turn it back on when they close the
dB. Most users probably wouldn't notice at all, few other databases
around (in Access anyway). But setting it back is a good idea. Thanks.
 
Virginia
 
***************
If I may respond...
 
I agree with Brett, if your apps are working in an environment where
your
users are going to be aware of what's happening and be concerned about
it. 
 
If not - the options are all yours!
 
 
Dan Waters
 
 
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<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> ] On Behalf Of
Brett Barabash
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
 
If I may be so bold...
 
Automatically changing another user's global settings to suit your
application's needs is considered by many (like myself) to be very
intrusive, and generally a poor practice.
 
However, there are valid reasons for needing to do this (I think you may
have touched upon one).  In this case, I would strongly suggest keeping
track of the user's original settings when your app launches and
restoring them when it closes.
 
Otherwise, be prepared for the confused users asking you why their other
Access apps look "different" since they ran yours.
 

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 28 06:47:55 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:47:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] :) 
Message-ID: <20050428114755.DBRR2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-10585_11-5671055.html?tag=nl.e101
 
 


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 28 06:56:07 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:56:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE29@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050428115607.DHHM2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Each "type" would be an individual record then. Sounds like you have a many
to many relationship between your name table and your type table. 

Name
1	Doe	John
2	Smith	Mary

Type	
1	Contact
2	IssuedTo	
3	IssuedBy
4	ClosedBy

NameTypemm
1	1	1
2	1	3
3	2	1
4	2	4

This all means that John Doe has a Contact and an IssuedBy type; Mary Smith
is a Contact and a ClosedBy type. The associate table, NameTypemm contains a
foreigh key to both tables. Technically, the associate key doesn't need a
separate primary key as I've shown -- you could use the combined foreign
keys as a primary key. The second column in NameTypemm is the Name foreign
key. The third column is the Type foreign key. 

Is this helping?

Susan H. 

Susan H. 

Yes, the name of a person can fit into any or all categories. The Contact,
Closedby, ReleasedBy, etc call all be the same person.
 
************
Virginia, I could be wrong, so take this with a grain of salt -- but it
sounds like Contact, IssuedTo, IssuedBy, ClosedBy, ReleasedBy are categories
that describe each person. Before we go any further, would a "name"
entity
have more than one category? 
 

Susan H.

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Apr 28 07:06:13 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:06:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B8E54B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA82@ADGSERVER>

Ok, I think I understand your issue now.  Sorry that my first try was so far
off.  I did something similar with an address book thingy for this
application.  A given entry could be primary contact on one item, payroll
contact on another, etc.  So that I did not have to duplicate the people
data, I used an intermediate table to store links to the people data.

There is a table of contact information for each person.  There is another
table that contains the ID of the record that will be associated with the
person.  This other table also contains the ID of the person in the people
data table,

An example:

Table Main
MainID   Contact    ClosedBy     ReleasedBy
3	     43           49           49


Intermediate table
IMID    MainID   PersonID
 43       3         754
 49       3         29

People Table
PersonID	FirstName	LastName
 754 		Joe		Schmoe
 29		Suzy		Chapstick

So you would store the IMID into the Main table for the various contacts.
The intermediate table would contain a link to the Main table and the People
table.  The People table just contains information on the individual people.

So to get the Contact person, you would link the ContactID to the
Intermediate table IMID and then link the PersonID in the Intermediate table
to the PersonID in the People table.

In this way, you are not duplicating the People data.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:41 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names


Yes, the name of a person can fit into any or all categories. The Contact,
Closedby, ReleasedBy, etc call all be the same person.
 
************
Virginia, I could be wrong, so take this with a grain of salt -- but it
sounds like Contact, IssuedTo, IssuedBy, ClosedBy, ReleasedBy are categories
that describe each person. Before we go any further, would a "name" entity
have more than one category? 
 

Susan H.




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 28 07:10:20 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:10:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <s270eed3.092@cactus.dk>

Hi Virginia

Like Brett I will warn you too to proceed with this. Changing the
display settings for pure cosmetic reasons is very serious, it may not
be possible at all (due to lack of user rights), some users will be
ready to kill you for delivering such an amateur "I own it all and to
He.. with your settings"-app, and you will not be able to reset the
settings if the user has made changes not saved in a theme.

Now don't say you haven't been warned ...

/gustav

>>> HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com 04/28 1:45 pm >>>
 
That makes sense. I will make sure I turn it back on when they close
the
dB. Most users probably wouldn't notice at all, few other databases
around (in Access anyway). But setting it back is a good idea. Thanks.
 
Virginia
 
***************
If I may respond...
 
I agree with Brett, if your apps are working in an environment where
your users are going to be aware of what's happening and be concerned
about
it. 
 
If not - the options are all yours!
 
Dan Waters
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> ] On Behalf Of
Brett Barabash
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
 
If I may be so bold...
 
Automatically changing another user's global settings to suit your
application's needs is considered by many (like myself) to be very
intrusive, and generally a poor practice.
 
However, there are valid reasons for needing to do this (I think you
may
have touched upon one).  In this case, I would strongly suggest
keeping
track of the user's original settings when your app launches and
restoring them when it closes.
 
Otherwise, be prepared for the confused users asking you why their
other
Access apps look "different" since they ran yours.



From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Apr 28 07:21:16 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:21:16 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] lock data
Message-ID: <003501c54bec$c79234e0$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

i have a form that is using a table to store its data of stone prices. When the prices in the table changes, the data on the form also changes. 

I would like that the prices can not change, after it is places on the form the first time, when the record is opened.

TIA

Pedro Janssen


From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr 28 07:26:20 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:26:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE30@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

This is what I did in the query, is this correct?

SELECT tbl_Type.NameType, tbl_PermitNames.PermitNames

FROM tbl_PermitNames INNER JOIN ((tbl_NameType INNER JOIN tbl_Permit ON
tbl_NameType.NameTypeID = tbl_Permit.ContactID) INNER JOIN tbl_Type ON
tbl_NameType.TypeID = tbl_Type.TypeID) ON tbl_PermitNames.PermitNamesID
= tbl_NameType.NameTypeID;

 

If the tables are set up correctly (as above), when I add a combo box on
the form what do I put in the source to have it add the data for the
field into the tables? If I want to select a Contact person, how does it
add the data to the tables? What about adding a new contact to the list?

 

Virginia

 

Ok, I think I understand your issue now.  Sorry that my first try was so
far
off.  I did something similar with an address book thingy for this
application.  A given entry could be primary contact on one item,
payroll
contact on another, etc.  So that I did not have to duplicate the people
data, I used an intermediate table to store links to the people data.
 
There is a table of contact information for each person.  There is
another
table that contains the ID of the record that will be associated with
the
person.  This other table also contains the ID of the person in the
people
data table,
 
An example:
 
Table Main
MainID   Contact    ClosedBy     ReleasedBy
3            43           49           49
 
 
Intermediate table
IMID    MainID   PersonID
 43       3         754
 49       3         29
 
People Table
PersonID       FirstName      LastName
 754           Joe            Schmoe
 29            Suzy           Chapstick
 
So you would store the IMID into the Main table for the various
contacts.
The intermediate table would contain a link to the Main table and the
People
table.  The People table just contains information on the individual
people.
 
So to get the Contact person, you would link the ContactID to the
Intermediate table IMID and then link the PersonID in the Intermediate
table
to the PersonID in the People table.
 
In this way, you are not duplicating the People data.
 
Bobby

 



From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Thu Apr 28 07:28:15 2005
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:28:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CBC1@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi

Sorry to barge in on a thread, but I'm with Gustav.  The very first VB
project I took responsibility for at the start of my career forced the user
into 640x480 (few years ago now).  Unfortunately, I had to do phone support
for said project and a lot of the calls were from users wondering what was
going on.

The other thing to consider is that the API's necessary to do this are
fairly dirty and will in a few cases screw something up along the line, or
hide desktop icons off the screen.  Particularly if the user has other apps
open when they start yours.

Cheers
Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: 28-Apr-2005 13:10
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

Hi Virginia

Like Brett I will warn you too to proceed with this. Changing the
display settings for pure cosmetic reasons is very serious, it may not
be possible at all (due to lack of user rights), some users will be
ready to kill you for delivering such an amateur "I own it all and to
He.. with your settings"-app, and you will not be able to reset the
settings if the user has made changes not saved in a theme.

Now don't say you haven't been warned ...

/gustav

>>> HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com 04/28 1:45 pm >>>
 
That makes sense. I will make sure I turn it back on when they close
the
dB. Most users probably wouldn't notice at all, few other databases
around (in Access anyway). But setting it back is a good idea. Thanks.
 
Virginia
 
***************
If I may respond...
 
I agree with Brett, if your apps are working in an environment where
your users are going to be aware of what's happening and be concerned
about
it. 
 
If not - the options are all yours!
 
Dan Waters
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> ] On Behalf Of
Brett Barabash
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
 
If I may be so bold...
 
Automatically changing another user's global settings to suit your
application's needs is considered by many (like myself) to be very
intrusive, and generally a poor practice.
 
However, there are valid reasons for needing to do this (I think you
may
have touched upon one).  In this case, I would strongly suggest
keeping
track of the user's original settings when your app launches and
restoring them when it closes.
 
Otherwise, be prepared for the confused users asking you why their
other
Access apps look "different" since they ran yours.

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Apr 28 08:00:11 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:00:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B8E563@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA83@ADGSERVER>

The query looks ok from what I can tell.

I went back to look at what we had done, you do not need to store the IDs in
the main record if you store the ID Type in the intermediate table.  That
is, type=0 may be the contact type, type=1 may be the released by type, etc.

So the intermediate table may be something like:
IMID, PermitID, TypeID, PermitNamesID.

As for populating the types on the form, you could either have a combo box
for each type that contains the ID and names from tbl_PermitNames.  If you
go this route, I would think that the combo boxes would be unbound.  When
you load up the form, you would set the combo boxes to the proper
information.  When the record is saved, you would have to update the
intermediate table.

Or, as I have done, you would call another form that you pass the type into,
and allow the user to select a name from a list.  If the user does not
cancel out of the form, then you would create the intermediate table entry
for that type, and then update the original forms type field (which would
not be editable by the user and would be unbound).  When you show the form
for a given permit, you would have to query the intermediate table to get
the data to display in the types fields.

On plus to having the intermediate table is that if you need to add a new
type, it is easy, you just define a new type.

Sorry for the confusion, it has been a while since I looked at any of that
setup.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:26 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names


This is what I did in the query, is this correct?

SELECT tbl_Type.NameType, tbl_PermitNames.PermitNames

FROM tbl_PermitNames INNER JOIN ((tbl_NameType INNER JOIN tbl_Permit ON
tbl_NameType.NameTypeID = tbl_Permit.ContactID) INNER JOIN tbl_Type ON
tbl_NameType.TypeID = tbl_Type.TypeID) ON tbl_PermitNames.PermitNamesID =
tbl_NameType.NameTypeID;

 

If the tables are set up correctly (as above), when I add a combo box on the
form what do I put in the source to have it add the data for the field into
the tables? If I want to select a Contact person, how does it add the data
to the tables? What about adding a new contact to the list?

 

Virginia

 

Ok, I think I understand your issue now.  Sorry that my first try was so far
off.  I did something similar with an address book thingy for this
application.  A given entry could be primary contact on one item, payroll
contact on another, etc.  So that I did not have to duplicate the people
data, I used an intermediate table to store links to the people data.
 
There is a table of contact information for each person.  There is another
table that contains the ID of the record that will be associated with the
person.  This other table also contains the ID of the person in the people
data table,
 
An example:
 
Table Main
MainID   Contact    ClosedBy     ReleasedBy
3            43           49           49
 
 
Intermediate table
IMID    MainID   PersonID
 43       3         754
 49       3         29
 
People Table
PersonID       FirstName      LastName
 754           Joe            Schmoe
 29            Suzy           Chapstick
 
So you would store the IMID into the Main table for the various contacts.
The intermediate table would contain a link to the Main table and the People
table.  The People table just contains information on the individual people.
 
So to get the Contact person, you would link the ContactID to the
Intermediate table IMID and then link the PersonID in the Intermediate table
to the PersonID in the People table.
 
In this way, you are not duplicating the People data.
 
Bobby

 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Apr 28 08:58:21 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:58:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233755C@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

<Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line>
how do you pause Access so that it waits until the process is finished? I
have a process that creates and runs cmd and bat files and then destroys
them. I have to pause Access so that the files are run before Access kills
them. My current method is a kludge. In Excel I use the Wait function. Is
there an analogous function in Access? TIA
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Sorry for the delay.....but I've been a little swamped during this thread.
Ironically, I am rebuilding an application that 'auto' extracts files from
zips.  It's probably more complex then what you are looking for though. 

I host a realty website (remax realtors).  It has a ton of properties, which
are updated regularly.  The updates are posted to an FTP site, and are
zipped.  The zip files contain both delimited text files with the property
information, and .jpg files with images for the property.

My original application used the INet control in VB, to download the files
to a directory.  Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line that
unzipped all of the files to that folder.  That was actually pretty easy to
do. The REAL fun part was then to extract all of the information from the
unzipped text files, update the database, and then sort all the pictures
(and create thumbnails for them).  The only trick on the first part was the
unzipping.  I found and Add-on for WinZip, which works perfectly, but the
only catch is that you have to have a registered version of WinZip for it to
truly work automated.  If it's not registered, the command line prompts you
for things...which is a little quirky for an 'automated' system.  So I
splurged on the $29 to register WinZip.  It was money well spent.  The
command line works wonderfully, and better yet, the registered version of
WinZip has a lot of neat features to use.

The reason I am rebuilding this application, is because I spent the last few
weeks rebuilding my home network.  Now that I have everything setup at home
(almost), I want to improve this process.  It's downloading about 1.5 gigs
worth of zip files, which even over my 3 megabit connection, takes a while.
Then it unzips them (which can take just as long, or longer), then it runs
the 'update' process.  During the download, doing anything on my own crawls
to dialup speed sometimes.  During the rest, that server is pretty tied up.
I decided to change the download/unzip process, and also modify the update
process, so that my customers will be able to track what has been updated.
In the download/unzip phase, I was using the INet control, which is quirky,
and the way I had it setup, I knew what file was downloading, but not how
big it was, or how fast it was downloading, and I couldn't pause it, only
kill the whole process.  So the new process (which I have the dl/unzip phase
done, working on the new update process) downloads everything using API
calls, and not only shows the file size, but how much has been downloaded
and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because the
FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....).  So now, if I
want to use the net at high speeds, when this thing is running, I can just
go to the server, and pause the process.  I also made a modification to the
zip process.  Instead of one big unzip '*.zip' command line, I have the VB
program start a new thread, and that thread starts runs the unzip process
for one zip file.  Works like a charm.  (It's all event driven too, so when
the last zip thread is done, it raises an event the main process can use to
launch the update process).

Drew

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Apr 28 09:17:42 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:17:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2FDA@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

What surprises me about this thread is that people are surprised that FP
numbers are subject to these rounding problems. I thought that was just a
simple fact of life due to the binary nature of computer data and it was
covered in CS101. :-)

One other thing surprised me - that Gustav's routine gets though as many as
five iterations before it finds a difference between fSum and fSuma!  Two or
three would have been my guess.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent:	Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:36 AM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
> 
> Hi Marty
> 
> That's right, but Charlotte mentioned adding 1 not 0.01.
> 
> However, if anyone at this point still are confident using Double (or <
> gosh> Single) for decimals, I modified your test.
> This is scary. Notes follow the function:
> 
> Sub CalcSum()
>   
>   ' This will take a fraction of a second to run.
>   ' Add 1 cent up to 1 billion times and apply rounding.
>   ' Exit at first encountered error.
>   
>   Dim i As Long
>   Dim iMax   As Long
>   Dim fSum  As Double
>   Dim fSuma  As Double
>   Dim fPenny As Double
>   i = 0
>   fPenny = 0.01
>   iMax = 1000000000
>   fSum = 0#
>   fSuma = 0#
>   For i = 0 To iMax - 1
>     fSum = fSum + fPenny
>     fSuma = fSuma + fPenny
>     'intermediate round to 2 decimal point precision
>     fSuma = Round(fSuma, 2)
>     ' Exit if an error has occurred.
>     If fSum <> fSuma Then Exit For
>   Next i
>   
>   Debug.Print fSum; fSuma, fSum - fSuma
> 
> End Sub
> 
> Now, take your guess - how many loops will run? Ten thousand? 
> You'll be in for a surprise!
> 
> Note that even though fSum and fSuma display the same result, they
> don't compare.
> You have to do the fSum - fSuma subtraction to have the error
> displayed.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> martyconnelly at shaw.ca 04/27 10:32 pm >>>
> Don't forget you must round to the precision needed in the
> intermediate
> calculations to avoid bias or roundoff errors, regardless of the
> precision
> of the variables used or compiler.
> After doing one billion additions of .01 or say 1 cent
> The difference in calculated values can be seen when you apply the
> intermediate rounding function.
> Applying this method will keep demented accountants out of your hair.
> 
> Final Total unrounded decimal     accurate  intermediate rounded total
>  9999999.82515867                               10000000
> 
>  Sub CalcSum()
>   'this may take several minutes to run
>   ' add 1 cent 1 billion times and apply rounding
>                         Dim i As Long
>                         Dim iMax   As Long
>                         Dim fSum  As Double
>                         Dim fSuma  As Double
>                         Dim fPenny As Double
>                         i = 0
>                         fPenny = 0.01
>                         iMax = 1000000000
>                         fSum = 0#
>                         fSuma = 0#
>                         For i = 0 To iMax - 1
> 
>                            fSum = fSum + fPenny
>                            fSuma = fSuma + fPenny
>                            'intermediate round to 2 decimal point
> precision
>                            fSuma = Round(fSuma, 2)
>                         Next i
> Debug.Print fSum; fSuma
>  End Sub
> 
> 
> Gustav Brock wrote:
> 
> >Hi Charlotte
> >
> >It fails all right, but not you have to go beyond 16 mio.:
> >
> >Public Sub TestSingle()
> >
> >  Dim sng As Single
> >  Dim lng As Long
> >  
> >  For lng = 0 To 100000000
> >    If lng <> sng Then Exit For
> >    sng = sng + 1
> >  Next
> >  Debug.Print lng, sng
> >
> >End Sub
> >
> >It runs to:
> > 16777217      1.677722E+07 
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> >  
> >
> >>>>cfoust at infostatsystems.com 04/27 7:17 pm >>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >I've seen it with addition as well.  You can build a test in code and
> >loop multiple times adding 1 to the integer of a floating point and
> >testing the mod to see if there is a remainder.  Believe me, it will
> >occur.
> >
> >Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:37 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
> >
> >
> >Hi Reuben
> >
> >Charlotte a guy? You better be careful!
> >
> >You mostly see this with subtraction (which includes addition of
> >negative values); I've never seen it with addition of positives.
> >
> >If you can't change the source data type be sure to wrap the values
> in
> >CCur(). If you need more than the four decimals of Currency you may
> >choose Double but round the results whenever possible.
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> >  
> >
> >>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 6:26 pm >>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never
> >considered it would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after
> all the work
> >I did on payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Reuben Cummings
> >GFC, LLC
> >phone: 812.523.1017
> >email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav
> Brock
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
> >
> >
> >Hi Reuben
> >
> >He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
> >using
> >data type Single for that. Change to data type Currency ...
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> >  
> >
> >>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >A client came across this for me...
> >
> >One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
> >After gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with
> a sum
> >to get the total hours.
> >
> >Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
> >6.00000023841858
> >
> >Why the strange decimals?
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Reuben Cummings
> >GFC, LLC
> >phone: 812.523.1017
> >email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 
> 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 28 09:37:12 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:37:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3E6@main2.marlow.com>

It's a function called ShellWait.  It's code available on the net (should
show up with a google search), I'd post it here, but I don't think we are
supposed to post other people's code.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


<Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line>
how do you pause Access so that it waits until the process is finished? I
have a process that creates and runs cmd and bat files and then destroys
them. I have to pause Access so that the files are run before Access kills
them. My current method is a kludge. In Excel I use the Wait function. Is
there an analogous function in Access? TIA
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Sorry for the delay.....but I've been a little swamped during this thread.
Ironically, I am rebuilding an application that 'auto' extracts files from
zips.  It's probably more complex then what you are looking for though. 

I host a realty website (remax realtors).  It has a ton of properties, which
are updated regularly.  The updates are posted to an FTP site, and are
zipped.  The zip files contain both delimited text files with the property
information, and .jpg files with images for the property.

My original application used the INet control in VB, to download the files
to a directory.  Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line that
unzipped all of the files to that folder.  That was actually pretty easy to
do. The REAL fun part was then to extract all of the information from the
unzipped text files, update the database, and then sort all the pictures
(and create thumbnails for them).  The only trick on the first part was the
unzipping.  I found and Add-on for WinZip, which works perfectly, but the
only catch is that you have to have a registered version of WinZip for it to
truly work automated.  If it's not registered, the command line prompts you
for things...which is a little quirky for an 'automated' system.  So I
splurged on the $29 to register WinZip.  It was money well spent.  The
command line works wonderfully, and better yet, the registered version of
WinZip has a lot of neat features to use.

The reason I am rebuilding this application, is because I spent the last few
weeks rebuilding my home network.  Now that I have everything setup at home
(almost), I want to improve this process.  It's downloading about 1.5 gigs
worth of zip files, which even over my 3 megabit connection, takes a while.
Then it unzips them (which can take just as long, or longer), then it runs
the 'update' process.  During the download, doing anything on my own crawls
to dialup speed sometimes.  During the rest, that server is pretty tied up.
I decided to change the download/unzip process, and also modify the update
process, so that my customers will be able to track what has been updated.
In the download/unzip phase, I was using the INet control, which is quirky,
and the way I had it setup, I knew what file was downloading, but not how
big it was, or how fast it was downloading, and I couldn't pause it, only
kill the whole process.  So the new process (which I have the dl/unzip phase
done, working on the new update process) downloads everything using API
calls, and not only shows the file size, but how much has been downloaded
and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because the
FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....).  So now, if I
want to use the net at high speeds, when this thing is running, I can just
go to the server, and pause the process.  I also made a modification to the
zip process.  Instead of one big unzip '*.zip' command line, I have the VB
program start a new thread, and that thread starts runs the unzip process
for one zip file.  Works like a charm.  (It's all event driven too, so when
the last zip thread is done, it raises an event the main process can use to
launch the update process).

Drew

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 28 09:48:31 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:48:31 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <s2711400.097@cactus.dk>

Hi Drew

Since when have you turned into chicken mode?
Here's the module:

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private Const SYNCHRONIZE = &H100000
                                                
' Wait forever.
Private Const INFINITE = &HFFFF
' The state of the specified object is signaled.
Private Const WAIT_OBJECT_0 = 0
' The time-out interval elapsed and the object's state is
nonsignaled.
Private Const WAIT_TIMEOUT = &H102

Private Declare Function OpenProcess Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal dwDesiredAccess As Long, _
  ByVal bInheritHandle As Long, _
  ByVal dwProcessId As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function WaitForSingleObject Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal hHandle As Long, _
  ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function CloseHandle Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal hObject As Long) _
  As Long
  
' The WaitForSingleObject function returns when one of the following
occurs:
' - The specified object is in the signaled state.
' - The time-out interval elapses.
'
' The dwMilliseconds parameter specifies the time-out interval, in
milliseconds.
' The function returns if the interval elapses, even if the object's
state is
' nonsignaled. If dwMilliseconds is zero, the function tests the
object's state
' and returns immediately. If dwMilliseconds is INFINITE, the
function's time-out
' interval never elapses.
'
' This example waits an INFINITE amount of time for the process to end.
As a
' result this process will be frozen until the shelled process
terminates. The
' down side is that if the shelled process hangs, so will this one.
'
' A better approach is to wait a specific amount of time. Once the
time-out
' interval expires, test the return value. If it is WAIT_TIMEOUT, the
process
' is still not signaled. Then you can either wait again or continue
with your
' processing.
'
' DOS Applications:
' Waiting for a DOS application is tricky because the DOS window never
goes
' away when the application is done. To get around this, prefix the app
that
' you are shelling to with "command.com /c".
'
' For example: lngPid = Shell("command.com /c " & strCommand.Text,
vbNormalFocus)

Function ShellWait( _
  ByVal strCommand As String) _
  As Boolean

  Dim lngPid      As Long
  Dim lngHnd      As Long
  Dim lngReturn   As Long
  Dim booSuccess  As Boolean
  
  If Len(Trim$(strCommand)) > 0 Then
    lngPid = Shell(strCommand, vbNormalFocus)
    If lngPid <> 0 Then
      ' Get a handle to the shelled process.
      lngHnd = OpenProcess(SYNCHRONIZE, 0, lngPid)
      ' If successful, wait for the application to end and close the
handle.
      If lngHnd <> 0 Then
        lngReturn = WaitForSingleObject(lngHnd, INFINITE)
        CloseHandle (lngHnd)
        booSuccess = True
      End If
      MsgBox "Just terminated.", vbInformation, "Shelled Application"
    End If
  End If
  
  ShellWait = booSuccess

End Function


>>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 04/28 4:37 pm >>>
It's a function called ShellWait.  It's code available on the net
(should
show up with a google search), I'd post it here, but I don't think we
are
supposed to post other people's code.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


<Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line>
how do you pause Access so that it waits until the process is finished?
I
have a process that creates and runs cmd and bat files and then
destroys
them. I have to pause Access so that the files are run before Access
kills
them. My current method is a kludge. In Excel I use the Wait function.
Is
there an analogous function in Access? TIA
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Sorry for the delay.....but I've been a little swamped during this
thread.
Ironically, I am rebuilding an application that 'auto' extracts files
from
zips.  It's probably more complex then what you are looking for though.


I host a realty website (remax realtors).  It has a ton of properties,
which
are updated regularly.  The updates are posted to an FTP site, and are
zipped.  The zip files contain both delimited text files with the
property
information, and .jpg files with images for the property.

My original application used the INet control in VB, to download the
files
to a directory.  Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line that
unzipped all of the files to that folder.  That was actually pretty
easy to
do. The REAL fun part was then to extract all of the information from
the
unzipped text files, update the database, and then sort all the
pictures
(and create thumbnails for them).  The only trick on the first part was
the
unzipping.  I found and Add-on for WinZip, which works perfectly, but
the
only catch is that you have to have a registered version of WinZip for
it to
truly work automated.  If it's not registered, the command line prompts
you
for things...which is a little quirky for an 'automated' system.  So I
splurged on the $29 to register WinZip.  It was money well spent.  The
command line works wonderfully, and better yet, the registered version
of
WinZip has a lot of neat features to use.

The reason I am rebuilding this application, is because I spent the
last few
weeks rebuilding my home network.  Now that I have everything setup at
home
(almost), I want to improve this process.  It's downloading about 1.5
gigs
worth of zip files, which even over my 3 megabit connection, takes a
while.
Then it unzips them (which can take just as long, or longer), then it
runs
the 'update' process.  During the download, doing anything on my own
crawls
to dialup speed sometimes.  During the rest, that server is pretty tied
up.
I decided to change the download/unzip process, and also modify the
update
process, so that my customers will be able to track what has been
updated.
In the download/unzip phase, I was using the INet control, which is
quirky,
and the way I had it setup, I knew what file was downloading, but not
how
big it was, or how fast it was downloading, and I couldn't pause it,
only
kill the whole process.  So the new process (which I have the dl/unzip
phase
done, working on the new update process) downloads everything using
API
calls, and not only shows the file size, but how much has been
downloaded
and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because
the
FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....).  So now,
if I
want to use the net at high speeds, when this thing is running, I can
just
go to the server, and pause the process.  I also made a modification to
the
zip process.  Instead of one big unzip '*.zip' command line, I have the
VB
program start a new thread, and that thread starts runs the unzip
process
for one zip file.  Works like a charm.  (It's all event driven too, so
when
the last zip thread is done, it raises an event the main process can
use to
launch the update process).



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 28 09:52:20 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:52:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <s27114d2.098@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

And here's another one for this purpose:

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private Const STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW  As Long = &H1
Private Const NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS As Long = &H20
Private Const INFINITE              As Long = -1

Private Type STARTUPINFO
  cb                As Long
  lpReserved        As String
  lpDesktop         As String
  lpTitle           As String
  dwX               As Long
  dwY               As Long
  dwXSize           As Long
  dwYSize           As Long
  dwXCountChars     As Long
  dwYCountChars     As Long
  dwFillAttribute   As Long
  dwFlags           As Long
  wShowWindow       As Integer
  cbReserved2       As Integer
  lpReserved2       As Long
  hStdInput         As Long
  hStdOutput        As Long
  hStdError         As Long
End Type

Private Type PROCESS_INFORMATION
  hProcess          As Long
  hThread           As Long
  dwProcessId       As Long
  dwThreadID        As Long
End Type

Private Declare Function WaitForSingleObject Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal hHandle As Long, _
  ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long) As Long
  
Private Declare Function CreateProcessA Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal lpApplicationName As Long, _
  ByVal lpCommandLine As String, _
  ByVal lpProcessAttributes As Long, _
  ByVal lpThreadAttributes As Long, _
  ByVal bInheritHandles As Long, _
  ByVal dwCreationFlags As Long, _
  ByVal lpEnvironment As Long, _
  ByVal lpCurrentDirectory As Long, _
  lpStartupInfo As STARTUPINFO, _
  lpProcessInformation As PROCESS_INFORMATION) As Long
  
Private Declare Function CloseHandle Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal hObject As Long) As Long
  
Public Function ShellExecute( _
  ByVal strPathname As String, _
  Optional lngAppWinStyle As Long = vbHide) As Boolean

' Start other application and wait for it to finish.
  
  Const cbInheritHandles  As Long = 1
  
  Dim typProc             As PROCESS_INFORMATION
  Dim typStart            As STARTUPINFO
  Dim lngReturn           As Long
  
  On Error GoTo Err_ShellExecute
  
  ' Initialize the STARTUPINFO structure:
  With typStart
    .cb = Len(typStart)
    .dwFlags = STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW
    .wShowWindow = lngAppWinStyle
  End With
  
  ' Load the shelled application.
  lngReturn = CreateProcessA(0, strPathname, 0, 0, cbInheritHandles, _
    NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS, 0, 0, typStart, typProc)
  With typProc
    If .dwProcessId <> 0 Then
      ' Wait for the shelled application to finish.
      lngReturn = WaitForSingleObject(.hProcess, INFINITE)
      ' Close both Process and Thread to prevent memory leak.
      lngReturn = CloseHandle(.hProcess) And CloseHandle(.hThread)
    End If
  End With

  ShellExecute = True
  
Exit_ShellExecute:
  Exit Function

Err_ShellExecute:
  MsgBox "Shell Error: " & Err.Number & ". " & Err.Description, _
    vbCritical, _
    Err.Source
  Resume Exit_ShellExecute

End Function

/gustav

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


<Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line>
how do you pause Access so that it waits until the process is finished?
I
have a process that creates and runs cmd and bat files and then
destroys
them. I have to pause Access so that the files are run before Access
kills
them. My current method is a kludge. In Excel I use the Wait function.
Is
there an analogous function in Access? TIA
Jim Hale



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Apr 28 09:51:37 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:51:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233755F@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Thanks!
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:37 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


It's a function called ShellWait.  It's code available on the net (should
show up with a google search), I'd post it here, but I don't think we are
supposed to post other people's code.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


<Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line>
how do you pause Access so that it waits until the process is finished? I
have a process that creates and runs cmd and bat files and then destroys
them. I have to pause Access so that the files are run before Access kills
them. My current method is a kludge. In Excel I use the Wait function. Is
there an analogous function in Access? TIA
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Sorry for the delay.....but I've been a little swamped during this thread.
Ironically, I am rebuilding an application that 'auto' extracts files from
zips.  It's probably more complex then what you are looking for though. 

I host a realty website (remax realtors).  It has a ton of properties, which
are updated regularly.  The updates are posted to an FTP site, and are
zipped.  The zip files contain both delimited text files with the property
information, and .jpg files with images for the property.

My original application used the INet control in VB, to download the files
to a directory.  Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line that
unzipped all of the files to that folder.  That was actually pretty easy to
do. The REAL fun part was then to extract all of the information from the
unzipped text files, update the database, and then sort all the pictures
(and create thumbnails for them).  The only trick on the first part was the
unzipping.  I found and Add-on for WinZip, which works perfectly, but the
only catch is that you have to have a registered version of WinZip for it to
truly work automated.  If it's not registered, the command line prompts you
for things...which is a little quirky for an 'automated' system.  So I
splurged on the $29 to register WinZip.  It was money well spent.  The
command line works wonderfully, and better yet, the registered version of
WinZip has a lot of neat features to use.

The reason I am rebuilding this application, is because I spent the last few
weeks rebuilding my home network.  Now that I have everything setup at home
(almost), I want to improve this process.  It's downloading about 1.5 gigs
worth of zip files, which even over my 3 megabit connection, takes a while.
Then it unzips them (which can take just as long, or longer), then it runs
the 'update' process.  During the download, doing anything on my own crawls
to dialup speed sometimes.  During the rest, that server is pretty tied up.
I decided to change the download/unzip process, and also modify the update
process, so that my customers will be able to track what has been updated.
In the download/unzip phase, I was using the INet control, which is quirky,
and the way I had it setup, I knew what file was downloading, but not how
big it was, or how fast it was downloading, and I couldn't pause it, only
kill the whole process.  So the new process (which I have the dl/unzip phase
done, working on the new update process) downloads everything using API
calls, and not only shows the file size, but how much has been downloaded
and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because the
FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....).  So now, if I
want to use the net at high speeds, when this thing is running, I can just
go to the server, and pause the process.  I also made a modification to the
zip process.  Instead of one big unzip '*.zip' command line, I have the VB
program start a new thread, and that thread starts runs the unzip process
for one zip file.  Works like a charm.  (It's all event driven too, so when
the last zip thread is done, it raises an event the main process can use to
launch the update process).

Drew

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 28 09:59:36 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:59:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3E7@main2.marlow.com>

I don't know, I rarely use other people's code now, and so I prefer not to
post someone else's work.  You didn't include the comments I have in my
module, which denote the original author.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:49 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Hi Drew

Since when have you turned into chicken mode?
Here's the module:

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private Const SYNCHRONIZE = &H100000
                                                
' Wait forever.
Private Const INFINITE = &HFFFF
' The state of the specified object is signaled.
Private Const WAIT_OBJECT_0 = 0
' The time-out interval elapsed and the object's state is
nonsignaled.
Private Const WAIT_TIMEOUT = &H102

Private Declare Function OpenProcess Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal dwDesiredAccess As Long, _
  ByVal bInheritHandle As Long, _
  ByVal dwProcessId As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function WaitForSingleObject Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal hHandle As Long, _
  ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function CloseHandle Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal hObject As Long) _
  As Long
  
' The WaitForSingleObject function returns when one of the following
occurs:
' - The specified object is in the signaled state.
' - The time-out interval elapses.
'
' The dwMilliseconds parameter specifies the time-out interval, in
milliseconds.
' The function returns if the interval elapses, even if the object's
state is
' nonsignaled. If dwMilliseconds is zero, the function tests the
object's state
' and returns immediately. If dwMilliseconds is INFINITE, the
function's time-out
' interval never elapses.
'
' This example waits an INFINITE amount of time for the process to end.
As a
' result this process will be frozen until the shelled process
terminates. The
' down side is that if the shelled process hangs, so will this one.
'
' A better approach is to wait a specific amount of time. Once the
time-out
' interval expires, test the return value. If it is WAIT_TIMEOUT, the
process
' is still not signaled. Then you can either wait again or continue
with your
' processing.
'
' DOS Applications:
' Waiting for a DOS application is tricky because the DOS window never
goes
' away when the application is done. To get around this, prefix the app
that
' you are shelling to with "command.com /c".
'
' For example: lngPid = Shell("command.com /c " & strCommand.Text,
vbNormalFocus)

Function ShellWait( _
  ByVal strCommand As String) _
  As Boolean

  Dim lngPid      As Long
  Dim lngHnd      As Long
  Dim lngReturn   As Long
  Dim booSuccess  As Boolean
  
  If Len(Trim$(strCommand)) > 0 Then
    lngPid = Shell(strCommand, vbNormalFocus)
    If lngPid <> 0 Then
      ' Get a handle to the shelled process.
      lngHnd = OpenProcess(SYNCHRONIZE, 0, lngPid)
      ' If successful, wait for the application to end and close the
handle.
      If lngHnd <> 0 Then
        lngReturn = WaitForSingleObject(lngHnd, INFINITE)
        CloseHandle (lngHnd)
        booSuccess = True
      End If
      MsgBox "Just terminated.", vbInformation, "Shelled Application"
    End If
  End If
  
  ShellWait = booSuccess

End Function


>>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 04/28 4:37 pm >>>
It's a function called ShellWait.  It's code available on the net
(should
show up with a google search), I'd post it here, but I don't think we
are
supposed to post other people's code.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


<Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line>
how do you pause Access so that it waits until the process is finished?
I
have a process that creates and runs cmd and bat files and then
destroys
them. I have to pause Access so that the files are run before Access
kills
them. My current method is a kludge. In Excel I use the Wait function.
Is
there an analogous function in Access? TIA
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Sorry for the delay.....but I've been a little swamped during this
thread.
Ironically, I am rebuilding an application that 'auto' extracts files
from
zips.  It's probably more complex then what you are looking for though.


I host a realty website (remax realtors).  It has a ton of properties,
which
are updated regularly.  The updates are posted to an FTP site, and are
zipped.  The zip files contain both delimited text files with the
property
information, and .jpg files with images for the property.

My original application used the INet control in VB, to download the
files
to a directory.  Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line that
unzipped all of the files to that folder.  That was actually pretty
easy to
do. The REAL fun part was then to extract all of the information from
the
unzipped text files, update the database, and then sort all the
pictures
(and create thumbnails for them).  The only trick on the first part was
the
unzipping.  I found and Add-on for WinZip, which works perfectly, but
the
only catch is that you have to have a registered version of WinZip for
it to
truly work automated.  If it's not registered, the command line prompts
you
for things...which is a little quirky for an 'automated' system.  So I
splurged on the $29 to register WinZip.  It was money well spent.  The
command line works wonderfully, and better yet, the registered version
of
WinZip has a lot of neat features to use.

The reason I am rebuilding this application, is because I spent the
last few
weeks rebuilding my home network.  Now that I have everything setup at
home
(almost), I want to improve this process.  It's downloading about 1.5
gigs
worth of zip files, which even over my 3 megabit connection, takes a
while.
Then it unzips them (which can take just as long, or longer), then it
runs
the 'update' process.  During the download, doing anything on my own
crawls
to dialup speed sometimes.  During the rest, that server is pretty tied
up.
I decided to change the download/unzip process, and also modify the
update
process, so that my customers will be able to track what has been
updated.
In the download/unzip phase, I was using the INet control, which is
quirky,
and the way I had it setup, I knew what file was downloading, but not
how
big it was, or how fast it was downloading, and I couldn't pause it,
only
kill the whole process.  So the new process (which I have the dl/unzip
phase
done, working on the new update process) downloads everything using
API
calls, and not only shows the file size, but how much has been
downloaded
and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because
the
FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....).  So now,
if I
want to use the net at high speeds, when this thing is running, I can
just
go to the server, and pause the process.  I also made a modification to
the
zip process.  Instead of one big unzip '*.zip' command line, I have the
VB
program start a new thread, and that thread starts runs the unzip
process
for one zip file.  Works like a charm.  (It's all event driven too, so
when
the last zip thread is done, it raises an event the main process can
use to
launch the update process).

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Apr 28 10:08:09 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:08:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
Message-ID: <s270c45c.074@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Thank you! As usual, I have asked, and I have received. And, also as
usual...I'm not sure this is a good thing...I've gotten enough back,
that I have gotten more in depth. I am looking forward to checking out
Bryan's example, but for now I have gone with Don and Charlotte's
"hit-myself-in-the-head-why-didn't-I-think-of-that" idea of using an
invisible command button over the top of a label. 

BTW Don, I'm not getting any flickering, so this should definitely work
for me. 

Thanks again!

John W Clark

>>> donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com 4/27/2005 2:12:06 PM >>>
John, 

I experimented with something similar, but I used transparent command
buttons over labels.  This allows you to use all the capabilities of
command buttons without being limited by their fixed visual style. 
The
result of my experiment was pretty cool, but it was kinda flickery, so
I
didn't actually use it for anything.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:44 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons


I am whipping up a new program and I wanted to try something new for
the
interface on the menus. I've had this "look" in my head, and I figured
I'd try it out on this program...the program seems pretty small and
easy, so it would be a good time to spend the extra time on some new
interface ideas.

Anyhow, I usually use command buttons, and I change the text color as
I
mouse over them, or when the gain focus via the keyboard. I wanted to
try something slightly different and am experimenting with labels and
text boxes. Labels quickly proved unworthy of the task, because they
can't get focus...unless I am missing something here...so I have
focused
my energy on developing text box buttons. I have them pretty close to
completion, and I like them, except they highlight the text and/or put
a
cursor in them. Is there any way to not highlight the text inside and
to
not get a cursor in the text box, even when it is clicked?

Thanks 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 28 10:24:11 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:24:11 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <s2711c52.099@cactus.dk>

Hi Drew

The major source for these generic functions is the official API
specifications and examples.
I've seen so many variations on these and it is impossible to tell who
included which comments.

/gustav

>>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 04/28 4:59 pm >>>
I don't know, I rarely use other people's code now, and so I prefer not
to
post someone else's work.  You didn't include the comments I have in
my
module, which denote the original author.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:49 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Hi Drew

Since when have you turned into chicken mode?



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 28 10:35:10 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:35:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233755C@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <427102AE.3010701@shaw.ca>

ShellAndWait  by Terry Kreft

http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0004.htm

Randy Birch has some variations on this to avoid loops, possible screen 
freezes etc.

http://vbnet.mvps.org/
Search on Shell and Wait
or
http://vbnet.mvps.org/code/faq/waitforsingleobject2.htm

Hale, Jim wrote:

><Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line>
>how do you pause Access so that it waits until the process is finished? I
>have a process that creates and runs cmd and bat files and then destroys
>them. I have to pause Access so that the files are run before Access kills
>them. My current method is a kludge. In Excel I use the Wait function. Is
>there an analogous function in Access? TIA
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:18 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>
>Sorry for the delay.....but I've been a little swamped during this thread.
>Ironically, I am rebuilding an application that 'auto' extracts files from
>zips.  It's probably more complex then what you are looking for though. 
>
>I host a realty website (remax realtors).  It has a ton of properties, which
>are updated regularly.  The updates are posted to an FTP site, and are
>zipped.  The zip files contain both delimited text files with the property
>information, and .jpg files with images for the property.
>
>My original application used the INet control in VB, to download the files
>to a directory.  Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line that
>unzipped all of the files to that folder.  That was actually pretty easy to
>do. The REAL fun part was then to extract all of the information from the
>unzipped text files, update the database, and then sort all the pictures
>(and create thumbnails for them).  The only trick on the first part was the
>unzipping.  I found and Add-on for WinZip, which works perfectly, but the
>only catch is that you have to have a registered version of WinZip for it to
>truly work automated.  If it's not registered, the command line prompts you
>for things...which is a little quirky for an 'automated' system.  So I
>splurged on the $29 to register WinZip.  It was money well spent.  The
>command line works wonderfully, and better yet, the registered version of
>WinZip has a lot of neat features to use.
>
>The reason I am rebuilding this application, is because I spent the last few
>weeks rebuilding my home network.  Now that I have everything setup at home
>(almost), I want to improve this process.  It's downloading about 1.5 gigs
>worth of zip files, which even over my 3 megabit connection, takes a while.
>Then it unzips them (which can take just as long, or longer), then it runs
>the 'update' process.  During the download, doing anything on my own crawls
>to dialup speed sometimes.  During the rest, that server is pretty tied up.
>I decided to change the download/unzip process, and also modify the update
>process, so that my customers will be able to track what has been updated.
>In the download/unzip phase, I was using the INet control, which is quirky,
>and the way I had it setup, I knew what file was downloading, but not how
>big it was, or how fast it was downloading, and I couldn't pause it, only
>kill the whole process.  So the new process (which I have the dl/unzip phase
>done, working on the new update process) downloads everything using API
>calls, and not only shows the file size, but how much has been downloaded
>and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because the
>FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....).  So now, if I
>want to use the net at high speeds, when this thing is running, I can just
>go to the server, and pause the process.  I also made a modification to the
>zip process.  Instead of one big unzip '*.zip' command line, I have the VB
>program start a new thread, and that thread starts runs the unzip process
>for one zip file.  Works like a charm.  (It's all event driven too, so when
>the last zip thread is done, it raises an event the main process can use to
>launch the update process).
>
>Drew
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 28 11:04:54 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:04:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] VB.Net expert
In-Reply-To: <427102AE.3010701@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0IFN00806ZC3JJ@l-daemon>

Hi All:

A fellow developer has got himself into a bit of a bind with having to just
'display' an existing project that was written in VB.Net. The references do
not all work and I just could not help resolving the issues. There is a
dead-line of Friday...Yeh Friday. 

He will pay at a negotiable rate.

Anyone in the Victoria/Vancouver area preferred but a remote talent would be
acceptable.

TIA
Jim 



From pjones at btl.net  Thu Apr 28 11:02:38 2005
From: pjones at btl.net (Paul M. Jones)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:02:38 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access 2000 and Terminal Server 2K3
Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050428095659.02759748@pop.btl.net>

Hi Group,

Does anyone know the pros and cons of each user running their own copy of 
an MS Access FE Vs. having them all run the same FE file from a link?  I 
know the single FE makes updating the application more difficult since the 
lock file is created as soon as someone opens the FE.  I'm more seeking 
information regarding the performance and resource issues.


Paul M. Jones
Spire Services Ltd.


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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Thu Apr 28 11:12:37 2005
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Don [ITS])
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:12:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
Message-ID: <E2B2D43190AF7948BF79EF0079153D3C01301EF0@PDAWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

As I recall, I was doing something like Bryan's button over a label over
a picture thing.  Swapping image files depending on mouse position.
Some forms (using exactly the same code) worked really well, while
others were really flickery.  Didn't really have time to dig in and
figure out what the difference was, so I just left the "feature" out.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:08 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons


Thank you! As usual, I have asked, and I have received. And, also as
usual...I'm not sure this is a good thing...I've gotten enough back,
that I have gotten more in depth. I am looking forward to checking out
Bryan's example, but for now I have gone with Don and Charlotte's
"hit-myself-in-the-head-why-didn't-I-think-of-that" idea of using an
invisible command button over the top of a label. 

BTW Don, I'm not getting any flickering, so this should definitely work
for me. 

Thanks again!

John W Clark

>>> donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com 4/27/2005 2:12:06 PM >>>
John, 

I experimented with something similar, but I used transparent command
buttons over labels.  This allows you to use all the capabilities of
command buttons without being limited by their fixed visual style. 
The
result of my experiment was pretty cool, but it was kinda flickery, so
I
didn't actually use it for anything.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:44 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons


I am whipping up a new program and I wanted to try something new for
the
interface on the menus. I've had this "look" in my head, and I figured
I'd try it out on this program...the program seems pretty small and
easy, so it would be a good time to spend the extra time on some new
interface ideas.

Anyhow, I usually use command buttons, and I change the text color as
I
mouse over them, or when the gain focus via the keyboard. I wanted to
try something slightly different and am experimenting with labels and
text boxes. Labels quickly proved unworthy of the task, because they
can't get focus...unless I am missing something here...so I have
focused
my energy on developing text box buttons. I have them pretty close to
completion, and I like them, except they highlight the text and/or put
a
cursor in them. Is there any way to not highlight the text inside and
to
not get a cursor in the text box, even when it is clicked?

Thanks 

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 28 11:14:24 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:14:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3E8@main2.marlow.com>

True.  I copy and pasted the code years ago, when I built the original
program I am rebuilding.  Nowadays, I tend to make my own 'utility' modules,
just for the fun of it....

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Hi Drew

The major source for these generic functions is the official API
specifications and examples.
I've seen so many variations on these and it is impossible to tell who
included which comments.

/gustav

>>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 04/28 4:59 pm >>>
I don't know, I rarely use other people's code now, and so I prefer not
to
post someone else's work.  You didn't include the comments I have in
my
module, which denote the original author.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:49 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Hi Drew

Since when have you turned into chicken mode?

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Thu Apr 28 11:24:17 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:24:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F2C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Here's a good one for you.  M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB via ADO to access our SQL data.  We've been doing just that and in researching an issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when uploading via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions that there is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that the ODBC drivers should be used instead.

My question:  Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture and all the data access is done via centralized components.  I know using ODBC will require modding the connect string.  Once we've got a connection to the database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're using connection objects, recordsets and command objects.  Is there a lot of SQL specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 28 11:54:36 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:54:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access 2000 and Terminal Server 2K3
References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050428095659.02759748@pop.btl.net>
Message-ID: <4271154C.2080702@shaw.ca>

Here are a series of notes on splitting from Tony Toews with a lot of 
secondary url's
http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/splitapp/index.htm
Best Practices When Using Microsoft Office Access 2003 in a Multi-user 
Environment
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_ac2003_ta/html/odc_acmultibest.asp

Paul M. Jones wrote:

> Hi Group,
>
> Does anyone know the pros and cons of each user running their own copy 
> of an MS Access FE Vs. having them all run the same FE file from a 
> link?  I know the single FE makes updating the application more 
> difficult since the lock file is created as soon as someone opens the 
> FE.  I'm more seeking information regarding the performance and 
> resource issues.
>
>
> Paul M. Jones
> Spire Services Ltd.
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>
> Reality is the murder of a beautiful theory by a gang of ugly facts.
>         Robert L. Glass
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Thu Apr 28 13:07:30 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:07:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2FDA@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAKEBFDAAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

>>I thought that was just a
>>simple fact of life due to the binary nature of computer data and it was
>>covered in CS101. :-)

Remember, some of us have never had a computer class :)

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:18 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


What surprises me about this thread is that people are surprised that FP
numbers are subject to these rounding problems. I thought that was just a
simple fact of life due to the binary nature of computer data and it was
covered in CS101. :-)

One other thing surprised me - that Gustav's routine gets though as many as
five iterations before it finds a difference between fSum and fSuma!  Two or
three would have been my guess.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent:	Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:36 AM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
>
> Hi Marty
>
> That's right, but Charlotte mentioned adding 1 not 0.01.
>
> However, if anyone at this point still are confident using Double (or <
> gosh> Single) for decimals, I modified your test.
> This is scary. Notes follow the function:
>
> Sub CalcSum()
>
>   ' This will take a fraction of a second to run.
>   ' Add 1 cent up to 1 billion times and apply rounding.
>   ' Exit at first encountered error.
>
>   Dim i As Long
>   Dim iMax   As Long
>   Dim fSum  As Double
>   Dim fSuma  As Double
>   Dim fPenny As Double
>   i = 0
>   fPenny = 0.01
>   iMax = 1000000000
>   fSum = 0#
>   fSuma = 0#
>   For i = 0 To iMax - 1
>     fSum = fSum + fPenny
>     fSuma = fSuma + fPenny
>     'intermediate round to 2 decimal point precision
>     fSuma = Round(fSuma, 2)
>     ' Exit if an error has occurred.
>     If fSum <> fSuma Then Exit For
>   Next i
>
>   Debug.Print fSum; fSuma, fSum - fSuma
>
> End Sub
>
> Now, take your guess - how many loops will run? Ten thousand?
> You'll be in for a surprise!
>
> Note that even though fSum and fSuma display the same result, they
> don't compare.
> You have to do the fSum - fSuma subtraction to have the error
> displayed.
>
> /gustav
>
> >>> martyconnelly at shaw.ca 04/27 10:32 pm >>>
> Don't forget you must round to the precision needed in the
> intermediate
> calculations to avoid bias or roundoff errors, regardless of the
> precision
> of the variables used or compiler.
> After doing one billion additions of .01 or say 1 cent
> The difference in calculated values can be seen when you apply the
> intermediate rounding function.
> Applying this method will keep demented accountants out of your hair.
>
> Final Total unrounded decimal     accurate  intermediate rounded total
>  9999999.82515867                               10000000
>
>  Sub CalcSum()
>   'this may take several minutes to run
>   ' add 1 cent 1 billion times and apply rounding
>                         Dim i As Long
>                         Dim iMax   As Long
>                         Dim fSum  As Double
>                         Dim fSuma  As Double
>                         Dim fPenny As Double
>                         i = 0
>                         fPenny = 0.01
>                         iMax = 1000000000
>                         fSum = 0#
>                         fSuma = 0#
>                         For i = 0 To iMax - 1
>
>                            fSum = fSum + fPenny
>                            fSuma = fSuma + fPenny
>                            'intermediate round to 2 decimal point
> precision
>                            fSuma = Round(fSuma, 2)
>                         Next i
> Debug.Print fSum; fSuma
>  End Sub
>
>
> Gustav Brock wrote:
>
> >Hi Charlotte
> >
> >It fails all right, but not you have to go beyond 16 mio.:
> >
> >Public Sub TestSingle()
> >
> >  Dim sng As Single
> >  Dim lng As Long
> >
> >  For lng = 0 To 100000000
> >    If lng <> sng Then Exit For
> >    sng = sng + 1
> >  Next
> >  Debug.Print lng, sng
> >
> >End Sub
> >
> >It runs to:
> > 16777217      1.677722E+07
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> >
> >
> >>>>cfoust at infostatsystems.com 04/27 7:17 pm >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >I've seen it with addition as well.  You can build a test in code and
> >loop multiple times adding 1 to the integer of a floating point and
> >testing the mod to see if there is a remainder.  Believe me, it will
> >occur.
> >
> >Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:37 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
> >
> >
> >Hi Reuben
> >
> >Charlotte a guy? You better be careful!
> >
> >You mostly see this with subtraction (which includes addition of
> >negative values); I've never seen it with addition of positives.
> >
> >If you can't change the source data type be sure to wrap the values
> in
> >CCur(). If you need more than the four decimals of Currency you may
> >choose Double but round the results whenever possible.
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> >
> >
> >>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 6:26 pm >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never
> >considered it would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after
> all the work
> >I did on payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Reuben Cummings
> >GFC, LLC
> >phone: 812.523.1017
> >email: reuben at gfconsultants.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav
> Brock
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
> >
> >
> >Hi Reuben
> >
> >He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
> >using
> >data type Single for that. Change to data type Currency ...
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> >
> >
> >>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >A client came across this for me...
> >
> >One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
> >After gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with
> a sum
> >to get the total hours.
> >
> >Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
> >6.00000023841858
> >
> >Why the strange decimals?
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Reuben Cummings
> >GFC, LLC
> >phone: 812.523.1017
> >email: reuben at gfconsultants.com
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Apr 28 13:14:39 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:14:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F2C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F2C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a0504281114135ecb2a@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know... 

While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin 
archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center. the FE 
is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images inside DBs and 
would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and serve it up 
via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for uploading so that users 
couldn't use that as their personal drive either...

what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into the db?



On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> 
> Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB via 
> ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in researching an 
> issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when uploading 
> via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions that there 
> is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that the 
> ODBC drivers should be used instead.
> 
> My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture and 
> all the data access is done via centralized components. I know using ODBC 
> will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection to the 
> database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're using 
> connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of SQL 
> specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
> 
> 
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Apr 28 13:35:30 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:35:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question (I think)
Message-ID: <s270f4cb.006@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I am whipping up a quick program, and there are many "descriptors" in
the main table (i.e. hair, eyes, status, race, etc.). My question is
this:

Should I have an individual table for each descriptor? This is the way
I mostly do it now. I put in value lists for something like "gender,"
which will most likely stay the same (I don't want to think about the
"what ifs" here). But for other things, I like to leave it open for the
user to input. I then give them a button for "Program Administration"
and a bunch of little forms, which are basically prettied-up continuous
forms, to enter these options. 

This actually came in handy, on one of my previous programs. Their
"Race" designations were altered, about a year after they began using
the program...asian was split into sub-groups...and they were able to go
in and change this without my help. 

I was just wondering whether this is considered acceptable practice, or
if I am being a bit retentive here.

TIA 

John W Clark


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Apr 28 13:52:40 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:52:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question (I think)
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B8E65A@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA89@ADGSERVER>

I generally do what you are doing.  Especially if it is not something that I
want to keep adding to myself.

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question (I think)


I am whipping up a quick program, and there are many "descriptors" in the
main table (i.e. hair, eyes, status, race, etc.). My question is
this:

Should I have an individual table for each descriptor? This is the way I
mostly do it now. I put in value lists for something like "gender," which
will most likely stay the same (I don't want to think about the "what ifs"
here). But for other things, I like to leave it open for the user to input.
I then give them a button for "Program Administration" and a bunch of little
forms, which are basically prettied-up continuous forms, to enter these
options. 

This actually came in handy, on one of my previous programs. Their "Race"
designations were altered, about a year after they began using the
program...asian was split into sub-groups...and they were able to go in and
change this without my help. 

I was just wondering whether this is considered acceptable practice, or if I
am being a bit retentive here.

TIA 

John W Clark



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Apr 28 14:00:40 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:00:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question (I think)
In-Reply-To: <26346550.1114713577280.JavaMail.root@sniper19>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA6xJj7OK5kUeJEGjxWwM+xAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

John,

To me this sounds fine.  Generally, all lists should be modifiable in some
way by the program's users (except where you really know they won't change).

A question you might want to consider:  After a change is made, what will
happen to your reporting criteria.  If someone pulls up a report by
selecting one of the asian sub-groups, it will automatically not select
anything for a whole years' worth of data.  

When I have this issue, I present it to the users and ask them how they want
to handle it. 

HTH, 

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question (I think)

I am whipping up a quick program, and there are many "descriptors" in
the main table (i.e. hair, eyes, status, race, etc.). My question is
this:

Should I have an individual table for each descriptor? This is the way
I mostly do it now. I put in value lists for something like "gender,"
which will most likely stay the same (I don't want to think about the
"what ifs" here). But for other things, I like to leave it open for the
user to input. I then give them a button for "Program Administration"
and a bunch of little forms, which are basically prettied-up continuous
forms, to enter these options. 

This actually came in handy, on one of my previous programs. Their
"Race" designations were altered, about a year after they began using
the program...asian was split into sub-groups...and they were able to go
in and change this without my help. 

I was just wondering whether this is considered acceptable practice, or
if I am being a bit retentive here.

TIA 

John W Clark
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Apr 28 14:21:23 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:21:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337568@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

And for some of us the last class was when COBOL and  fortan were cutting
edge and transistors on silicon had not yet replaced magnetic core...:-)
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


>>I thought that was just a
>>simple fact of life due to the binary nature of computer data and it was
>>covered in CS101. :-)

Remember, some of us have never had a computer class :)

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com

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From spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk  Thu Apr 28 14:31:15 2005
From: spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk (Chris Foote (Spike))
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:31:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
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We would to dream of having magnetic core stores! We used to have to make do
wi' punched cards if we were lucky...

I'll get me coat!

Chris Foote

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 28 April 2005 20:21
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


And for some of us the last class was when COBOL and  fortan were cutting
edge and transistors on silicon had not yet replaced magnetic core...:-)
Jim Hale




From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Thu Apr 28 14:42:24 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:42:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F39@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal documentation (birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store the docs as BLOBs also.

I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture.  We used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves scanned docs to the BLOB.  Until yesterday I was of the belief that we we not storing the entire BLOB but now it seems we are.  I'm assuming that by "entire BLOB" you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you choose) header and extraneous data.  The consultant had tested the component and assured us that each BLOB would max at approx. 20K but using the DATALENGTH function James Barash sent me I see that they are quite a bit larger than expected.

Is that what you meant?

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


I don't know... 

While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin 
archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center. the FE 
is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images inside DBs and would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and serve it up via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for uploading so that users couldn't use that as their personal drive either...

what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into the db?



On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> 
> Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB via > ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in researching an 
> issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when uploading 
> via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions that there 
> is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that the > ODBC drivers should be used instead.
> 
> My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture and > all the data access is done via centralized components. I know using ODBC 
> will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection to the 
> database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're using 
> connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of SQL > specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
> 
> 
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Apr 28 15:11:36 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:11:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
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yup that's exactly what I ment..

On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> 
> We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal documentation 
> (birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store the docs as BLOBs 
> also.
> 
> I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture. We 
> used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves scanned 
> docs to the BLOB. Until yesterday I was of the belief that we we not storing 
> the entire BLOB but now it seems we are. I'm assuming that by "entire BLOB" 
> you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you choose) header and extraneous 
> data. The consultant had tested the component and assured us that each BLOB 
> would max at approx. 20K but using the DATALENGTH function James Barash sent 
> me I see that they are quite a bit larger than expected.
> 
> Is that what you meant?
> 
> Jim D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
> 
> I don't know...
> 
> While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin
> archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center. the 
> FE
> is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images inside DBs and 
> would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and serve it up 
> via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for uploading so that users 
> couldn't use that as their personal drive either...
> 
> what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into the 
> db?
> 
> On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> >
> > Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB via 
> > ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in researching 
> an
> > issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when 
> uploading
> > via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions that 
> there
> > is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that 
> the > ODBC drivers should be used instead.
> >
> > My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture 
> and > all the data access is done via centralized components. I know using 
> ODBC
> > will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection to 
> the
> > database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're 
> using
> > connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of 
> SQL > specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Jim DeMarco
> > Director of Application Development
> > Hudson Health Plan
> >
> >
> > 
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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Apr 28 16:01:29 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:01:29 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] lock data2
References: <003501c54bec$c79234e0$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <001b01c54c35$9503d080$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hi,

this problem was badly explained, so i will try again.

I have a table in which data about bricks and their prices are stored.
I use this data in a form where the orders of these bricks are stored. The
prices of the bricks are used only as lookup (the price can't be changed by
hand on this form).
The prices in this form are used to make bills by mail merge with word.
When the price of a brick (for example A)  changes and the price in the
table for brick A is will be changed to.
When opening the order form and changing other data in the order for brick A
the original price will be updated with the new price.
How can i prevent this. When i place a order, the price at the date of the
order must stay on the form, even when the price of this brick is changed in
the table.

Pedro Janssen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:21 PM
Subject: [AccessD] lock data


> Hello Group,
>
> i have a form that is using a table to store its data of stone prices.
When the prices in the table changes, the data on the form also changes.
>
> I would like that the prices can not change, after it is places on the
form the first time, when the record is opened.
>
> TIA
>
> Pedro Janssen
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 16:47:46 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:47:46 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337568@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <4271E6A2.22458.257B554@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Apr 2005 at 14:21, Hale, Jim wrote:

> And for some of us the last class was when COBOL and  fortan were cutting
> edge and transistors on silicon had not yet replaced magnetic core...:-)
> Jim Hale
> 

Uh-oh, here it comes again....
I had to carve my own abacus..... :-)

(Well, it is Friday alreay here in PNG)



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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Apr 28 17:00:39 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:00:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233756D@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

No abacus but I still have my slide rule. :-)
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


On 28 Apr 2005 at 14:21, Hale, Jim wrote:

> And for some of us the last class was when COBOL and  fortan were cutting
> edge and transistors on silicon had not yet replaced magnetic core...:-)
> Jim Hale
> 

Uh-oh, here it comes again....
I had to carve my own abacus..... :-)

(Well, it is Friday alreay here in PNG)



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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 17:02:20 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:02:20 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] lock data2
In-Reply-To: <001b01c54c35$9503d080$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <4271EA0C.19403.2650C5E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Apr 2005 at 23:01, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> this problem was badly explained, so i will try again.
> 
> I have a table in which data about bricks and their prices are stored.
> I use this data in a form where the orders of these bricks are stored. The
> prices of the bricks are used only as lookup (the price can't be changed by
> hand on this form).
> The prices in this form are used to make bills by mail merge with word.
> When the price of a brick (for example A)  changes and the price in the
> table for brick A is will be changed to.
> When opening the order form and changing other data in the order for brick A
> the original price will be updated with the new price.
> How can i prevent this. When i place a order, the price at the date of the
> order must stay on the form, even when the price of this brick is changed in
> the table.
> 

You need to have a Price field in the Order table  and store the price at 
the time the order is first created.  

Assuming you are picking order items off a combo box, include the current 
price as a column in the combo. Display the OrderPrice on your order form 
and set it OrderPrice from the combobox  CurrentPrice column in the combo 
on_change event.  

You should also include some sort of validation to avoid inadvertently 
updating the price later. Something along the lines of:

If  NZ(OrderValue.OldPrice,0) <> O  AND OrderPrice.OldValue <> OrderPrice 
Then
	If MsgBox('Confirm you want to change the Price of this item...........



-- 
Stuart




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 17:10:53 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:10:53 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
In-Reply-To: <s270c45c.074@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <4271EC0D.6711.26CE046@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Apr 2005 at 11:08, John Clark wrote:

> Bryan's example, but for now I have gone with Don and Charlotte's
> "hit-myself-in-the-head-why-didn't-I-think-of-that" idea of using an
> invisible command button over the top of a label. 
> 

Careful you don't confuse people.   Invisible and transparent are two 
different properties.

Set a button to Visible = False and you can't click it. You have to set it 
to Transparent = True.




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Stuart




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 17:17:12 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:17:12 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <20050428115607.DHHM2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE29@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <4271ED88.5792.272AA06@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Apr 2005 at 7:56, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Each "type" would be an individual record then. Sounds like you have a many
> to many relationship between your name table and your type table. 
> 

Assuming that there is a type table.  

If Contact, IssuedTo, IssuedBy, ClosedBy, ReleasedBy are fixed fields in 
the main record,  you don't need any intermediate type table or link table, 
just store the PersonID in each field as appropriate.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 17:23:40 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:23:40 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] :) 
In-Reply-To: <20050428114755.DBRR2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <4271EF0C.10468.27892F7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Apr 2005 at 7:47, Susan Harkins wrote:

> http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-10585_11-5671055.html?tag=nl.e101
>  
That's what I've always done - it's so obvious, I'm surprised to learn that 
it's not the usual method.









-- 
Stuart




From artful at rogers.com  Thu Apr 28 17:58:12 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:58:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit
In-Reply-To: <001301c54b10$43f421c0$9115758f@aine>
References: <200411120145.iAC1jUdQ007739@cooper.uws.edu.au>	<019201c4c879$8a5ff900$e81865cb@winxp>
	<001301c54b10$43f421c0$9115758f@aine>
Message-ID: <42716A84.3060705@rogers.com>

I'm shocked, Martin! You can't speak Dutch? I've only been there 6 times 
but I'm quite the aficionado. My favourite Dutch is the word for vacuum 
cleaner. My spelling may be off by I am assured that my pronunciation is 
coming along just fine.

Stopfzaugher = vacuum cleaner, but you have to hear it to believe it 
LOL. I've practised that word thousands of times.

Then there is the really tricky one, the name of a coastal town. Dutch 
has lots of wonderful sounds. The town to which I refer is Scheveningen, 
but there is a "hidden" L in the SCH part of the word. It takes a LOT of 
practice to say it correctly.

Recently I was in Vancouver airport and the person checking me in had a 
Dutch accent. (Aside from the fact that she was drop-dead-gorgeous, 
blond and blue-eyed, as are almost all Dutch women, I can spot a Dutch 
accent in English instantly.)  So I inquired and she said yes, and I 
told her my favourite two Dutch words, then pronounced them. She laughed 
out loud. She said, "Perfect! I can't believe it." I told her about my 
hours of practice and she told me a WWII story. The Dutch used to ask 
people to say Schevningen because Germans couldn't say it. That was the 
trick question they used to identify German spies.

It happens that this year is a good year for Dutch-Canadian relations. I 
have lots of tulips in my front yard, in honour of Nederlands. I have 
been to about 30 countries and was nowhere treated so well as there. And 
incidentally, I have been to Schevningen, Rotterdam, and even the 
Aalsmeer flower market, the largest in the world.

Canada and Holland have a special relationship. Thanks for providing 
that text. I'm far from fluent but most of it was obvious. I haven't 
been back for about 8 years. It's time!

Arthur

Martin Reid wrote:

> Lembit
>
> Could you translate please
>
>
>
> Mijn naam is Jan Peeters en ben student handelsingenieur aan de KUL.  
> Voor het vak "beleidsinformatica" heb ik de opdracht gekregen om een 
> gevallenstudie uit te voeren waarin ten minste 3 thema's van de cursus 
> aan bod komen.  Ik zal eerst een paar voorbeelden geven van de 
> thema's: herbruikbaarheid in informatica systemen, overerving, 
> persistentie en materialisatie, het gebruik van XML, web services, 
> verschillende soorten databases, architecturen, SQL en hoe de 
> bedrijfsstrategie eruit ziet met behulp van informatica.
>
> Als er bij u in de organisatie verschillende thema's aan bod komen zou 
> ik zeer graag de mogelijkheid krijgen om uw bedrijf als casestudy te 
> nemen.
>
>
>


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 28 18:36:00 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:36:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <4271ED88.5792.272AA06@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20050428233559.ZWBS2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

How could a contact be both IssuedTo and IssuedBy? I admit, I'm confused by
the purposes of the types. I feel like something's missing. 

Susan H. 

On 28 Apr 2005 at 7:56, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Each "type" would be an individual record then. Sounds like you have a 
> many to many relationship between your name table and your type table.
> 

Assuming that there is a type table.  

If Contact, IssuedTo, IssuedBy, ClosedBy, ReleasedBy are fixed fields in the
main record,  you don't need any intermediate type table or link table, just
store the PersonID in each field as appropriate.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 18:53:05 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:53:05 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <20050428233559.ZWBS2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <4271ED88.5792.272AA06@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42720401.28202.2CA7185@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Apr 2005 at 19:36, Susan Harkins wrote:

> How could a contact be both IssuedTo and IssuedBy? I admit, I'm confused by
> the purposes of the types. I feel like something's missing. 
> 

Quite common in repair shops etc. for Jobs.

You have one master staff list which you use for everything including HRM 
and  Job tracking

A job comes in. It is:
a. ReceivedBy - a person on the counter (who puts in in a stack)
b. IssuedBy - a supervisor (who takes it from the stack)
c. IssuedTo - a serviceman (who carries out the work)
d. CheckedBy - a supervisor
d. ReturnedBy - a person on the counter.

Each of these is a field in the job record which stores the StaffID.

-- 
Stuart




From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 28 19:08:45 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:08:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question (I think)
In-Reply-To: <s270f4cb.006@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNMEPADLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

<<Should I have an individual table for each descriptor? This is the way
I mostly do it now. I put in value lists for something like "gender,"
which will most likely stay the same (I don't want to think about the
"what ifs" here). But for other things, I like to leave it open for the
user to input. I then give them a button for "Program Administration"
and a bunch of little forms, which are basically prettied-up continuous
forms, to enter these options. >>

  That is one way.  Another is a single lookup table:

tblLookup
LookupID - Autonum PK
LookupType - Long FK to tblLookupTypes
Value


tblLookupTypes
LookupTypeID - Autonum PK
Description
UserModifable - True/False

 I do most of my systems this way.

 But another way to design something like this is:

tblPeople - One record per person
PersonID - Autonumber PK
FirstName
LastName
etc.

tblAttributeTypes - One record per possible attribute type
AttributeID - Autonumber PK
Description


tblPeopleAttributes - One record per person/attribute
PersonID - Long FK to tblPeople
AttributeID - Long FK to tblAttributeTypes
Value


 Now on the above, *some* might like to add a PeopleAttributeID - Autonum PK
and if so, knock yourself out, but I think it's rather silly.

  With the above a user can add a new attribute they want to keep track of
i.e. "Nose pierced" or "Distance between eyes" and then assign a value for
each person.

  You can also extend this design by adding additional fields to
tblAttributeTypes that defines the allowed value (i.e. Y/N, 1 - 99999,
Lookup list, etc).  If a lookup list you would add a table
(tblAttributeTypeValues) that defines a list of allowed values for a given
attribute.

HTH,
Jim.






-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question (I think)


I am whipping up a quick program, and there are many "descriptors" in
the main table (i.e. hair, eyes, status, race, etc.). My question is
this:

Should I have an individual table for each descriptor? This is the way
I mostly do it now. I put in value lists for something like "gender,"
which will most likely stay the same (I don't want to think about the
"what ifs" here). But for other things, I like to leave it open for the
user to input. I then give them a button for "Program Administration"
and a bunch of little forms, which are basically prettied-up continuous
forms, to enter these options.

This actually came in handy, on one of my previous programs. Their
"Race" designations were altered, about a year after they began using
the program...asian was split into sub-groups...and they were able to go
in and change this without my help.

I was just wondering whether this is considered acceptable practice, or
if I am being a bit retentive here.

TIA

John W Clark
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From Robert at servicexp.com  Thu Apr 28 19:29:41 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:29:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Possible Causes for #ERROR# in datasheets fields.
In-Reply-To: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNMEPADLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAkFctmauQHEapbETsA84PTMKAAAAQAAAAMr1uxOPAckOGjU59gRnrkQEAAAAA@servicexp.com>


Hello,
 Occasionally, the user will be entering data, and when moving (Tabbing) to
another field they are getting this #ERROR# across all the fields in a
datasheet. Sometimes they are getting this error along with an msg about
someone else has change the current record, but there would be no other
users in the system.

 The only way to get the error to go away is to close the form and re-open.
After which, there is no evidence of any problem.

 It was noted, that is seems to happen more, when the user is entering the
first record to the datasheet dataset.

A2K Split FE/BE

Any Clues?



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 28 19:42:24 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:42:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <42720401.28202.2CA7185@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20050429004222.PQBX2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

But they don't apply to a single contact, do they? 

Perhaps it's the contact field that I don't understand. How would these
values apply to a Contact entity? 

Susan H. 

On 28 Apr 2005 at 19:36, Susan Harkins wrote:

> How could a contact be both IssuedTo and IssuedBy? I admit, I'm 
> confused by the purposes of the types. I feel like something's missing.
> 

Quite common in repair shops etc. for Jobs.

You have one master staff list which you use for everything including HRM
and  Job tracking

A job comes in. It is:
a. ReceivedBy - a person on the counter (who puts in in a stack) b. IssuedBy
- a supervisor (who takes it from the stack) c. IssuedTo - a serviceman (who
carries out the work) d. CheckedBy - a supervisor d. ReturnedBy - a person
on the counter.

Each of these is a field in the job record which stores the StaffID.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 19:52:50 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:52:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <20050429004222.PQBX2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <42720401.28202.2CA7185@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42721202.989.3012389@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Apr 2005 at 20:42, Susan Harkins wrote:

> But they don't apply to a single contact, do they? 
> 
> Perhaps it's the contact field that I don't understand. How would these
> values apply to a Contact entity? 
> 

Going back to an earlier expansion of the problem:

<quote>
Yes, the name of a person can fit into any or all categories. The
Contact, Closedby, ReleasedBy, etc call all be the same person.
 </quote>

As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if 
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no 
different in essence IssuedBy etc.





-- 
Stuart




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 28 20:02:26 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:02:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <42721202.989.3012389@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20050429010224.BNFR1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no different
in essence IssuedBy etc.

===============OK -- you might be right -- certainly wouldn't want to
complicate the picture unnecessarily. 

Susan H. 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 28 20:07:48 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:07:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Possible Causes for #ERROR# in datasheets fields.
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAkFctmauQHEapbETsA84PTMKAAAAQAAAAMr1uxOPAckOGjU59gRnrkQEAAAAA@servicexp.com>
Message-ID: <427188E4.3080601@shaw.ca>

Couple of guesses have you turned off subdatasheets on backend table, 
the default is set to on when creating.
Could be OPs series Lock problem if Win 2000 and if both client and 
server not SP3.
http://www.dataaccess.com/whitepapers/opportunlockingreadcaching.html
There is more about it here
http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/tipsindex.htm

Could be a flakey NIC.
I assume A2K is SP3. and Jet SP7 or 8
Compact the back and front end and break then rebuild the links, the 
backend cache can get a lot of garbage in it.

Robert Gracie wrote:

>Hello,
> Occasionally, the user will be entering data, and when moving (Tabbing) to
>another field they are getting this #ERROR# across all the fields in a
>datasheet. Sometimes they are getting this error along with an msg about
>someone else has change the current record, but there would be no other
>users in the system.
>
> The only way to get the error to go away is to close the form and re-open.
>After which, there is no evidence of any problem.
>
> It was noted, that is seems to happen more, when the user is entering the
>first record to the datasheet dataset.
>
>A2K Split FE/BE
>
>Any Clues?
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Robert at servicexp.com  Thu Apr 28 20:15:04 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:15:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Possible Causes for #ERROR# in datasheets fields.
Message-ID: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4E7C@gbsserver.GBS.local>

Thanks Marty,
 The error is not user, machine or even company specific. Subdatasheets
are turned off. So maybe a locking problem...
 Hmmmmmm

Thanks !!
Robert  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Possible Causes for #ERROR# in datasheets fields.

Couple of guesses have you turned off subdatasheets on backend table,
the default is set to on when creating.
Could be OPs series Lock problem if Win 2000 and if both client and
server not SP3.
http://www.dataaccess.com/whitepapers/opportunlockingreadcaching.html
There is more about it here
http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/tipsindex.htm

Could be a flakey NIC.
I assume A2K is SP3. and Jet SP7 or 8
Compact the back and front end and break then rebuild the links, the
backend cache can get a lot of garbage in it.

Robert Gracie wrote:

>Hello,
> Occasionally, the user will be entering data, and when moving 
>(Tabbing) to another field they are getting this #ERROR# across all the

>fields in a datasheet. Sometimes they are getting this error along with

>an msg about someone else has change the current record, but there 
>would be no other users in the system.
>
> The only way to get the error to go away is to close the form and
re-open.
>After which, there is no evidence of any problem.
>
> It was noted, that is seems to happen more, when the user is entering 
>the first record to the datasheet dataset.
>
>A2K Split FE/BE
>
>Any Clues?
>
>  
>

--
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 21:08:44 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:08:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT:Friday Humour (or Humor)
In-Reply-To: <20050429010224.BNFR1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <42721202.989.3012389@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <427223CC.19664.346A2EB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

http://www.zippynet.com/pages/bandhmo.htm



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 28 21:13:26 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:13:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F39@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
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Have you considered converting your tiff's or jpeg's  to compressed pdf 
or djvu format
both maintain the text portion as a secondary layer.
That would reduce their size by a factor of 10.
Even a bi-tonal tiff of a book page would be a 100K, a photo would 3 or 
4 times that

Francisco Tapia wrote:

>yup that's exactly what I ment..
>
>On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
>  
>
>>We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal documentation 
>>(birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store the docs as BLOBs 
>>also.
>>
>>I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture. We 
>>used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves scanned 
>>docs to the BLOB. Until yesterday I was of the belief that we we not storing 
>>the entire BLOB but now it seems we are. I'm assuming that by "entire BLOB" 
>>you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you choose) header and extraneous 
>>data. The consultant had tested the component and assured us that each BLOB 
>>would max at approx. 20K but using the DATALENGTH function James Barash sent 
>>me I see that they are quite a bit larger than expected.
>>
>>Is that what you meant?
>>
>>Jim D.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
>>Tapia
>>Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
>>
>>I don't know...
>>
>>While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin
>>archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center. the 
>>FE
>>is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images inside DBs and 
>>would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and serve it up 
>>via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for uploading so that users 
>>couldn't use that as their personal drive either...
>>
>>what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into the 
>>db?
>>
>>On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB via 
>>>ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in researching 
>>>      
>>>
>>an
>>    
>>
>>>issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when 
>>>      
>>>
>>uploading
>>    
>>
>>>via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions that 
>>>      
>>>
>>there
>>    
>>
>>>is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that 
>>>      
>>>
>>the > ODBC drivers should be used instead.
>>    
>>
>>>My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture 
>>>      
>>>
>>and > all the data access is done via centralized components. I know using 
>>ODBC
>>    
>>
>>>will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection to 
>>>      
>>>
>>the
>>    
>>
>>>database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're 
>>>      
>>>
>>using
>>    
>>
>>>connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of 
>>>      
>>>
>>SQL > specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
>>    
>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>Jim DeMarco
>>>Director of Application Development
>>>Hudson Health Plan
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Thu Apr 28 22:37:29 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:37:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] lock data2
In-Reply-To: <001b01c54c35$9503d080$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <IDEHKOAFNHAAKHDOFCCCEECOCAAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I have to concern myself with similar issues.

I do this by adding a new record with the new amount and the effective date
(in a one-to-many table) rather than overwriting a single record.
Essentially you will be building a price history for an item.  You will then
use the order date to set the price according to the order date when opening
the order each time.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] lock data2


Hi,

this problem was badly explained, so i will try again.

I have a table in which data about bricks and their prices are stored.
I use this data in a form where the orders of these bricks are stored. The
prices of the bricks are used only as lookup (the price can't be changed by
hand on this form).
The prices in this form are used to make bills by mail merge with word.
When the price of a brick (for example A)  changes and the price in the
table for brick A is will be changed to.
When opening the order form and changing other data in the order for brick A
the original price will be updated with the new price.
How can i prevent this. When i place a order, the price at the date of the
order must stay on the form, even when the price of this brick is changed in
the table.

Pedro Janssen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:21 PM
Subject: [AccessD] lock data


> Hello Group,
>
> i have a form that is using a table to store its data of stone prices.
When the prices in the table changes, the data on the form also changes.
>
> I would like that the prices can not change, after it is places on the
form the first time, when the record is opened.
>
> TIA
>
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From terry.mace at baesystems.com  Fri Apr 29 00:56:27 2005
From: terry.mace at baesystems.com (MACE, Terry)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:26:27 +0930
Subject: [AccessD] Oracle HTML DB
Message-ID: <3881CF7F5868CA419AAF1179D19F6BAC023567@abw3ex1.au.baesystems.com>

My company is moving to replacing Access97 with Oracle HTML DB. 

Can anyone comment on the pros or cons of Oracle HTML DB? 
Does anyone know how easy it is to migrate existing Access97 data across and
how easy is it to learn to set up front ends in the Oracle environment?

I am self taught on Access97 and understand nearly all of the discussion on
this list. 

Terry Mace 


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 29 01:15:07 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:15:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] All Computer Names In Network
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	<008701c3b2a0$1dfbd260$0200a8c0@S856>
Message-ID: <4271D0EB.6060507@shaw.ca>

Here is a vbs script to dump all this type of info for a domain via wmi 
into excel using ado, you could rewrite for access vba
Assumes ADS domain

http://www.rlmueller.net/Inventory.htm

or using something like  ADSI

Searches for all computers that begin with the letters, "ATL" in a 
domain and any child domains.
Then, modifies the location attribute of all computers in the result set.

Set objConnection = CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
objConnection.Open "Provider=ADsDSOObject;"
 
Set objCommand = CreateObject("ADODB.Command")
objCommand.ActiveConnection = objConnection
 
objCommand.CommandText = _
    ";" & _
        "(&(objectCategory=Computer)(cn=ATL*));" & _
            "ADsPath;subtree"
 
Set objRecordSet = objCommand.Execute
 
While Not objRecordset.EOF
    strADsPath = objRecordset.Fields("ADsPath")
    Set objComputer = GetObject(strADsPath)
    objComputer.Put "location", "Atlanta, Georgia"
    objComputer.SetInfo
    objRecordSet.MoveNext
Wend
 
WScript.Echo objRecordSet.RecordCount & _
   " computers objects modified."
 
objConnection.Close


Lembit Soobik wrote:

>Does anybody know how to get all computer names in the network?
>thank you
>
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From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Fri Apr 29 02:51:46 2005
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:51:46 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Oracle HTML DB
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D010E4B35@ddi-01.DDI.local>

Never heard of it till your post.
It appears to ONLY do HTML, using a bunch of wizard type interfaces.

They do have a FAQ on converting from Access.
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/htmldb/pdf/access_to_
htmldb.pdf

They say its for programmers and non programmers!!!  Just like Access
;-)))

"Currently there is no utility to convert an entire Microsoft Access
application to
an Oracle HTML DB application. Since Microsoft Access creates Microsoft
Windows-based applications, many components do not translate directly
into a
Web application.
There is, however, a data migration utility called Oracle Migration
Workbench.
Oracle Migration Workbench simplifies the process of migrating database
systems, like Microsoft Access, to the Oracle database. Using Oracle
Migration
Workbench you can migrate data and database objects, such as tables,
views,
indexes and constraints, to an Oracle database. Once the data and
database
objects are in an Oracle database and HTML DB is installed, it is easy
to turn
these objects into a Web application, allowing users to access and
manipulate
the data."

I've used the migration workbench, it was not easy to setup but I got
the Oracle DB built 
in the end...  This was a couple of years ago...

cheers

Michael M

My company is moving to replacing Access97 with Oracle HTML DB. 

Can anyone comment on the pros or cons of Oracle HTML DB? 
Does anyone know how easy it is to migrate existing Access97 data across
and how easy is it to learn to set up front ends in the Oracle
environment?

I am self taught on Access97 and understand nearly all of the discussion
on this list. 

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From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Fri Apr 29 03:12:26 2005
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:12:26 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access 2000 and Terminal Server 2K3
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CBCA@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi Paul

I'm just coming to the end of a big AXP on terminal services project - I've
been up and down just about every road there is.  If you need help with
anything specific just ask and I'll glady impart any info I've learned.

Cheers
Tom



-----Original Message-----
From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] 
Sent: 28 April 2005 17:55
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS Access 2000 and Terminal Server 2K3

Here are a series of notes on splitting from Tony Toews with a lot of 
secondary url's
http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/splitapp/index.htm
Best Practices When Using Microsoft Office Access 2003 in a Multi-user 
Environment
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_ac2003_
ta/html/odc_acmultibest.asp

Paul M. Jones wrote:

> Hi Group,
>
> Does anyone know the pros and cons of each user running their own copy 
> of an MS Access FE Vs. having them all run the same FE file from a 
> link?  I know the single FE makes updating the application more 
> difficult since the lock file is created as soon as someone opens the 
> FE.  I'm more seeking information regarding the performance and 
> resource issues.
>
>
> Paul M. Jones
> Spire Services Ltd.
>
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 29 03:58:17 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:58:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
Message-ID: <s2721356.002@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

20K will fit a Letter or A4 sized b/w average document in TIFF with max
compression (CCITT Group 4 Fax compression).

/gustav


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/28 9:42 pm >>>
We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal
documentation (birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store
the docs as BLOBs also.

I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture. 
We used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves
scanned docs to the BLOB.  Until yesterday I was of the belief that we
we not storing the entire BLOB but now it seems we are.  I'm assuming
that by "entire BLOB" you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you choose)
header and extraneous data.  The consultant had tested the component and
assured us that each BLOB would max at approx. 20K but using the
DATALENGTH function James Barash sent me I see that they are quite a bit
larger than expected.

Is that what you meant?

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


I don't know... 

While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin 
archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center.
the FE 
is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images inside DBs
and would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and
serve it up via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for uploading
so that users couldn't use that as their personal drive either...

what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into the
db?



On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> 
> Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB
via > ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in
researching an 
> issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when
uploading 
> via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions
that there 
> is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that
the > ODBC drivers should be used instead.
> 
> My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture
and > all the data access is done via centralized components. I know
using ODBC 
> will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection
to the 
> database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're
using 
> connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of
SQL > specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 29 06:47:42 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:47:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F3F@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

That makes sense because we tested with 8 1/2 by 11" docs.  Maybe our developer is not using the correct compression.

Thanks,

Jim D.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:58 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


Hi Jim

20K will fit a Letter or A4 sized b/w average document in TIFF with max
compression (CCITT Group 4 Fax compression).

/gustav


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/28 9:42 pm >>>
We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal
documentation (birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store
the docs as BLOBs also.

I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture. 
We used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves
scanned docs to the BLOB.  Until yesterday I was of the belief that we
we not storing the entire BLOB but now it seems we are.  I'm assuming
that by "entire BLOB" you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you choose)
header and extraneous data.  The consultant had tested the component and
assured us that each BLOB would max at approx. 20K but using the
DATALENGTH function James Barash sent me I see that they are quite a bit
larger than expected.

Is that what you meant?

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


I don't know... 

While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin 
archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center.
the FE 
is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images inside DBs
and would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and
serve it up via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for uploading
so that users couldn't use that as their personal drive either...

what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into the
db?



On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> 
> Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB
via > ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in
researching an 
> issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when
uploading 
> via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions
that there 
> is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that
the > ODBC drivers should be used instead.
> 
> My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture
and > all the data access is done via centralized components. I know
using ODBC 
> will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection
to the 
> database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're
using 
> connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of
SQL > specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 29 06:59:33 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:59:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
Message-ID: <s2723de1.010@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

I forgot an important parameter: resolution.

20K is achieved with 150 dpi which is just enough for a clearly
readable image. 100 dpi will exclude fine print, while 300 dpi delivers
close to photo copy (Xerox) quality.

/gustav

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/29 1:47 pm >>>
That makes sense because we tested with 8 1/2 by 11" docs.  Maybe our
developer is not using the correct compression.

Thanks,

Jim D.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:58 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


Hi Jim

20K will fit a Letter or A4 sized b/w average document in TIFF with
max
compression (CCITT Group 4 Fax compression).

/gustav


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/28 9:42 pm >>>
We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal
documentation (birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store
the docs as BLOBs also.

I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture. 
We used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves
scanned docs to the BLOB.  Until yesterday I was of the belief that we
we not storing the entire BLOB but now it seems we are.  I'm assuming
that by "entire BLOB" you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you
choose)
header and extraneous data.  The consultant had tested the component
and
assured us that each BLOB would max at approx. 20K but using the
DATALENGTH function James Barash sent me I see that they are quite a
bit
larger than expected.

Is that what you meant?

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


I don't know... 

While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin 
archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center.
the FE is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images
inside DBs
and would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and
serve it up via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for
uploading
so that users couldn't use that as their personal drive either...

what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into
the
db?


On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> 
> Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB
via 
> ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in
researching an 
> issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when
uploading 
> via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions
that there 
> is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that
the 
> ODBC drivers should be used instead.
> 
> My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture
and 
> all the data access is done via centralized components. I know using
ODBC 
> will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection
to the 
> database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're
using 
> connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of
SQL 
> specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Fri Apr 29 07:17:20 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:17:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE8B@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

I am getting the fields from a form they complete. It is for a fire
permit. The contact is the Responsible Person Contacted. He might also
issue the permit (IssuedTo) to himself (IssuedBy).
 
Anyway, I have:
Main table (tbl_Permit) that has the ContactID, IssuedToID, etc.
tbl_Type - TypeID, NameType
tbl_PermitNames - PermitNamesID, PermitNames
tbl_NameType - NameTypeID, TypeID, PermitNamesID
 
Do I join each one from tbl_Permit (ContactID, etc) to tbl_NameType
NameTypeID?
 
I still don't see how to create it on the form & reports so the drop
down boxes will know which type it is?
 
 
***************
As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no
different
in essence IssuedBy etc.
 
===============OK -- you might be right -- certainly wouldn't want to
complicate the picture unnecessarily. 
 
Susan H. 
 

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 29 07:31:24 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:31:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE8B@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050429123122.JXPZ2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

So contact isn't the entity then -- the permit is the entity? 

Susan H. 

I am getting the fields from a form they complete. It is for a fire permit.
The contact is the Responsible Person Contacted. He might also issue the
permit (IssuedTo) to himself (IssuedBy).
 
Anyway, I have:
Main table (tbl_Permit) that has the ContactID, IssuedToID, etc.
tbl_Type - TypeID, NameType
tbl_PermitNames - PermitNamesID, PermitNames tbl_NameType - NameTypeID,
TypeID, PermitNamesID
 
Do I join each one from tbl_Permit (ContactID, etc) to tbl_NameType
NameTypeID?
 
I still don't see how to create it on the form & reports so the drop down
boxes will know which type it is?
 
 
***************
As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no different
in essence IssuedBy etc.
 
===============OK -- you might be right -- certainly wouldn't want to
complicate the picture unnecessarily. 
 
Susan H. 
 

 

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Apr 29 08:17:02 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:17:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2FE5@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I've got a MANUAL IBM card puncher at home somewhere. It takes one 80 column
card and there's a stylus (attached by a string) with which to punch out the
holes!

Now if only I could find a card reader to go with it...

Lambert

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> Sent:	Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:01 PM
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> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
> 
> No abacus but I still have my slide rule. :-)
> Jim Hale
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg]
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:48 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
> 
> 
> On 28 Apr 2005 at 14:21, Hale, Jim wrote:
> 
> > And for some of us the last class was when COBOL and  fortan were
> cutting
> > edge and transistors on silicon had not yet replaced magnetic core...:-)
> > Jim Hale
> > 
> 
> Uh-oh, here it comes again....
> I had to carve my own abacus..... :-)
> 
> (Well, it is Friday alreay here in PNG)
> 
> 
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 29 08:40:01 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:40:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F44@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Thanks Marty.

Are this high quality formats?  We have to print clear copies and the electronic docs are subject to gov't audits so clarity and quality are an issue.

Jim D.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


Have you considered converting your tiff's or jpeg's  to compressed pdf 
or djvu format
both maintain the text portion as a secondary layer.
That would reduce their size by a factor of 10.
Even a bi-tonal tiff of a book page would be a 100K, a photo would 3 or 
4 times that

Francisco Tapia wrote:

>yup that's exactly what I ment..
>
>On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
>  
>
>>We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal documentation 
>>(birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store the docs as BLOBs 
>>also.
>>
>>I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture. We >>used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves scanned >>docs to the BLOB. Until yesterday I was of the belief that we we not storing 
>>the entire BLOB but now it seems we are. I'm assuming that by "entire BLOB" 
>>you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you choose) header and extraneous >>data. The consultant had tested the component and assured us that each BLOB 
>>would max at approx. 20K but using the DATALENGTH function James Barash sent 
>>me I see that they are quite a bit larger than expected.
>>
>>Is that what you meant?
>>
>>Jim D.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
>>Tapia
>>Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
>>
>>I don't know...
>>
>>While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin
>>archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center. the >>FE
>>is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images inside DBs and >>would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and serve it up 
>>via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for uploading so that users 
>>couldn't use that as their personal drive either...
>>
>>what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into the >>db?
>>
>>On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB via >>>ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in researching 
>>>      
>>>
>>an
>>    
>>
>>>issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when 
>>>      
>>>
>>uploading
>>    
>>
>>>via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions that >>>      
>>>
>>there
>>    
>>
>>>is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that 
>>>      
>>>
>>the > ODBC drivers should be used instead.
>>    
>>
>>>My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture 
>>>      
>>>
>>and > all the data access is done via centralized components. I know using 
>>ODBC
>>    
>>
>>>will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection to >>>      
>>>
>>the
>>    
>>
>>>database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're 
>>>      
>>>
>>using
>>    
>>
>>>connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of 
>>>      
>>>
>>SQL > specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
>>    
>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>Jim DeMarco
>>>Director of Application Development
>>>Hudson Health Plan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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>>    
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>>>      
>>>
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>>and
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 29 09:07:38 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:07:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday Humour
In-Reply-To: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D010E4B35@ddi-01.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <0IFP00D1TOKPYG@l-daemon>

What is going on in Germany? Would this the start of a cross-species
epidemic?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/28/exploding_german_toads/

Jim



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 29 10:14:18 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:14:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F48@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

An important parameter actually.  We need relatively high res as I mentioned earlier.

Thanks,

Jim D

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:00 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


Hi Jim

I forgot an important parameter: resolution.

20K is achieved with 150 dpi which is just enough for a clearly
readable image. 100 dpi will exclude fine print, while 300 dpi delivers
close to photo copy (Xerox) quality.

/gustav

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/29 1:47 pm >>>
That makes sense because we tested with 8 1/2 by 11" docs.  Maybe our
developer is not using the correct compression.

Thanks,

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:58 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


Hi Jim

20K will fit a Letter or A4 sized b/w average document in TIFF with
max
compression (CCITT Group 4 Fax compression).

/gustav


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/28 9:42 pm >>>
We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal
documentation (birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store
the docs as BLOBs also.

I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture. 
We used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves
scanned docs to the BLOB.  Until yesterday I was of the belief that we
we not storing the entire BLOB but now it seems we are.  I'm assuming
that by "entire BLOB" you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you
choose)
header and extraneous data.  The consultant had tested the component
and
assured us that each BLOB would max at approx. 20K but using the
DATALENGTH function James Barash sent me I see that they are quite a
bit
larger than expected.

Is that what you meant?

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


I don't know... 

While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin 
archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center.
the FE is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images
inside DBs
and would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and
serve it up via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for
uploading
so that users couldn't use that as their personal drive either...

what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into
the
db?


On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> 
> Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB
via 
> ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in
researching an 
> issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when
uploading 
> via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions
that there 
> is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that
the 
> ODBC drivers should be used instead.
> 
> My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture
and 
> all the data access is done via centralized components. I know using
ODBC 
> will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection
to the 
> database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're
using 
> connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of
SQL 
> specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan

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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Fri Apr 29 10:21:20 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:21:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAEA5@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

Yes. The fields are all related to a fire permit. The contact is just
someone they call if they have questions on the permit. A building may
need a fire permit. It is just a contact person (a reference point for
the permit) like a customer. But if the fireman is out & needs to write
the permit he would be a contact person & the issuer & close the permit.
 
So it is no different than the IssuedBy, etc. It is just a person.
 
***************
So contact isn't the entity then -- the permit is the entity? 
 
Susan H. 
 
I am getting the fields from a form they complete. It is for a fire
permit.
The contact is the Responsible Person Contacted. He might also issue the
permit (IssuedTo) to himself (IssuedBy).
 
Anyway, I have:
Main table (tbl_Permit) that has the ContactID, IssuedToID, etc.
tbl_Type - TypeID, NameType
tbl_PermitNames - PermitNamesID, PermitNames tbl_NameType - NameTypeID,
TypeID, PermitNamesID
 
Do I join each one from tbl_Permit (ContactID, etc) to tbl_NameType
NameTypeID?
 
I still don't see how to create it on the form & reports so the drop
down
boxes will know which type it is?
 
 
***************
As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no
different
in essence IssuedBy etc.
 
===============OK -- you might be right -- certainly wouldn't want to
complicate the picture unnecessarily. 
 
Susan H. 

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 29 10:24:52 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:24:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAEA5@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050429152450.KMPY1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

And each fire permit will have only one contact, one IssuedBy, one so on for
all the types, right? If this is the case, I agree with Stuart. 

However, you might want to maintain a types table just the same -- to
control what the users enter. Are they entering a person's name, an id
number? Or what? That's why I suggested the separate types table. I don't
know what you're entering -- it maybe as simple as a Yes/No field, but if
you're referring to a name or entity, then where's that value coming from? 

Susan H. 

Yes. The fields are all related to a fire permit. The contact is just
someone they call if they have questions on the permit. A building may need
a fire permit. It is just a contact person (a reference point for the
permit) like a customer. But if the fireman is out & needs to write the
permit he would be a contact person & the issuer & close the permit.
 
So it is no different than the IssuedBy, etc. It is just a person.
 
***************
So contact isn't the entity then -- the permit is the entity? 
 
Susan H. 
 
I am getting the fields from a form they complete. It is for a fire permit.
The contact is the Responsible Person Contacted. He might also issue the
permit (IssuedTo) to himself (IssuedBy).
 
Anyway, I have:
Main table (tbl_Permit) that has the ContactID, IssuedToID, etc.
tbl_Type - TypeID, NameType
tbl_PermitNames - PermitNamesID, PermitNames tbl_NameType - NameTypeID,
TypeID, PermitNamesID
 
Do I join each one from tbl_Permit (ContactID, etc) to tbl_NameType
NameTypeID?
 
I still don't see how to create it on the form & reports so the drop down
boxes will know which type it is?
 
 
***************
As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no different
in essence IssuedBy etc.
 
===============OK -- you might be right -- certainly wouldn't want to
complicate the picture unnecessarily. 
 
Susan H. 

 

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From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 10:35:21 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:35:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
Message-ID: <5f2de2420504290835478908a3@mail.gmail.com>

Group,

I have a stored parameter query where the parameters are taken from 2
controls on a form...this part works great.  The query field is a date
field and the form controls contain the "Start Date" and "End Date"
with the parameter for that field listed as:

Between [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text14] And [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text16]

I have a report based on this query which I can run directly from this
form...this part also works great.

Now the question.  From that same form I want to press a button which
will take the results of that parameter query and put it into an Excel
spreadsheet.  Can someone point me in the right direction to fill in
the missing syntax at or around line 4?

1.        Set db = CurrentDb
2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
3. ==> ?
4.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
5. ==> ?
6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
10.        objXLApp.Visible = True
11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults

At the moment I am getting error 3061 on line 4: "Too few parameters.
Expected 2."  Could this be a problem with scope?  The code above is
in a separate module and is called by the Form code...is this a
problem?


Thank you for any suggestions,

Mark Mitsules


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr 29 10:40:57 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:40:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT:Friday Humour (or Humor)
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3EA@main2.marlow.com>

Pretty funny....never realized how dangerous water is! LOL

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT:Friday Humour (or Humor)


http://www.zippynet.com/pages/bandhmo.htm



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Apr 29 10:50:23 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:50:23 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] :) 
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739C9@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Me, too Stuart, in both SQL Server and Access.  It's the only approach
that makes any sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] :) 


On 28 Apr 2005 at 7:47, Susan Harkins wrote:

> http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-10585_11-5671055.html?tag=nl.e101
>  
That's what I've always done - it's so obvious, I'm surprised to learn
that 
it's not the usual method.









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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Apr 29 10:51:33 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:51:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337571@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

If you don't laugh out loud at this one, call the morgue and reserve a tray,
because you're dead!!!!!!
Always wear clean underwear in public especially when working under your
vehicle ..
From the JUPITER FLORIDA Daily News comes this story of a Crestview couple
who drove their car to Wal-Mart, only to have their car break down in the
parking lot. The man told his wife to carry on with the shopping while he
fixed the car in the lot.
The wife returned later to see a small group of people near the car. On
closer inspection, she saw a pair of male legs protruding from under the
chassis. Although the man was in shorts, his lack of underpants turned
private parts into glaringly public ones.
Unable to stand the embarrassment, she dutifully stepped forward, quickly
put her hand UP his shorts, and tucked everything back into place. On
regaining her feet, she looked across the hood and found herself staring at
her husband who was standing idly by.
The mechanic, however, had to have three stitches in his forehead.


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Apr 29 10:55:15 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:55:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739CA@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Wen you handle a querydef like that in code, you have to pass the
parameter values in the code.  You can't rely on a form, even if it is
open.  So in your code, pass the value of Text14 and the value of Text16
into the parameters like this:  

qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16

Then open your recordset.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Admin Sparky [mailto:dba.email at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:35 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code


Group,

I have a stored parameter query where the parameters are taken from 2
controls on a form...this part works great.  The query field is a date
field and the form controls contain the "Start Date" and "End Date" with
the parameter for that field listed as:

Between [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text14] And
[Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text16]

I have a report based on this query which I can run directly from this
form...this part also works great.

Now the question.  From that same form I want to press a button which
will take the results of that parameter query and put it into an Excel
spreadsheet.  Can someone point me in the right direction to fill in the
missing syntax at or around line 4?

1.        Set db = CurrentDb
2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
3. ==> ?
4.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
5. ==> ?
6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
10.        objXLApp.Visible = True
11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults

At the moment I am getting error 3061 on line 4: "Too few parameters.
Expected 2."  Could this be a problem with scope?  The code above is in
a separate module and is called by the Form code...is this a problem?


Thank you for any suggestions,

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Apr 29 11:01:41 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:01:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <8110337.1114789576537.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAGK2Ys8VT8EKj9Q17fqP93gEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Mark,

I use this function to create the spreadsheet.

    DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acExport, , "qryMyQuery", _
        stgFolderName & stgSpreadsheetName


I use this code to create a folder on the user's PC to put the spreadsheet
into:

    Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
    stgFolderName = "C:\" & SystemAcronym & "\"
    If fso.FolderExists(stgFolderName) = False Then
        fso.CreateFolder (stgFolderName)
    End If
    stgFolderName = "C:\" & SystemAcronym & "\Spreadsheets\"
    If fso.FolderExists(stgFolderName) = False Then
        fso.CreateFolder (stgFolderName)
    End If
    Set fso = Nothing


Hope this helps!

Dan Waters


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Admin Sparky
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:35 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code

Group,

I have a stored parameter query where the parameters are taken from 2
controls on a form...this part works great.  The query field is a date
field and the form controls contain the "Start Date" and "End Date"
with the parameter for that field listed as:

Between [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text14] And
[Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text16]

I have a report based on this query which I can run directly from this
form...this part also works great.

Now the question.  From that same form I want to press a button which
will take the results of that parameter query and put it into an Excel
spreadsheet.  Can someone point me in the right direction to fill in
the missing syntax at or around line 4?

1.        Set db = CurrentDb
2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
3. ==> ?
4.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
5. ==> ?
6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
10.        objXLApp.Visible = True
11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults

At the moment I am getting error 3061 on line 4: "Too few parameters.
Expected 2."  Could this be a problem with scope?  The code above is
in a separate module and is called by the Form code...is this a
problem?


Thank you for any suggestions,

Mark Mitsules
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Fri Apr 29 11:24:45 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:24:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAEAA@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

Only one of everyone (one IssuedBy, one Contact, etc).
 
They are entering the name of the person (just first & last name is all
that is needed).
 
The names are in a table of names.
 
How do I get it to show the different types (roles) for the person in a
form or report? If they enter the name of a person in a field what makes
it assigned to that field? I need to show which group they belong to
when I put the different fields on a report.
 
 
*****************
And each fire permit will have only one contact, one IssuedBy, one so on
for
all the types, right? If this is the case, I agree with Stuart. 
 
However, you might want to maintain a types table just the same -- to
control what the users enter. Are they entering a person's name, an id
number? Or what? That's why I suggested the separate types table. I
don't
know what you're entering -- it maybe as simple as a Yes/No field, but
if
you're referring to a name or entity, then where's that value coming
from? 
 
Susan H. 
 
Yes. The fields are all related to a fire permit. The contact is just
someone they call if they have questions on the permit. A building may
need
a fire permit. It is just a contact person (a reference point for the
permit) like a customer. But if the fireman is out & needs to write the
permit he would be a contact person & the issuer & close the permit.
 
So it is no different than the IssuedBy, etc. It is just a person.
 
***************
So contact isn't the entity then -- the permit is the entity? 
 
Susan H. 
 
I am getting the fields from a form they complete. It is for a fire
permit.
The contact is the Responsible Person Contacted. He might also issue the
permit (IssuedTo) to himself (IssuedBy).
 
Anyway, I have:
Main table (tbl_Permit) that has the ContactID, IssuedToID, etc.
tbl_Type - TypeID, NameType
tbl_PermitNames - PermitNamesID, PermitNames tbl_NameType - NameTypeID,
TypeID, PermitNamesID
 
Do I join each one from tbl_Permit (ContactID, etc) to tbl_NameType
NameTypeID?
 
I still don't see how to create it on the form & reports so the drop
down
boxes will know which type it is?
 
 
***************
As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no
different
in essence IssuedBy etc.
 
===============OK -- you might be right -- certainly wouldn't want to
complicate the picture unnecessarily. 
 
Susan H. 
 

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 29 11:27:49 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:27:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAEAA@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050429162747.BNOO2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Virginia, why don't you zip it up and send it to me at
ssharkins at bellsouth.net. 

Susan H. 

Only one of everyone (one IssuedBy, one Contact, etc).
 
They are entering the name of the person (just first & last name is all that
is needed).
 
The names are in a table of names.
 
How do I get it to show the different types (roles) for the person in a form
or report? If they enter the name of a person in a field what makes it
assigned to that field? I need to show which group they belong to when I put
the different fields on a report.
 
 
*****************
And each fire permit will have only one contact, one IssuedBy, one so on for
all the types, right? If this is the case, I agree with Stuart. 
 
However, you might want to maintain a types table just the same -- to
control what the users enter. Are they entering a person's name, an id
number? Or what? That's why I suggested the separate types table. I don't
know what you're entering -- it maybe as simple as a Yes/No field, but if
you're referring to a name or entity, then where's that value coming from? 
 
Susan H. 
 
Yes. The fields are all related to a fire permit. The contact is just
someone they call if they have questions on the permit. A building may need
a fire permit. It is just a contact person (a reference point for the
permit) like a customer. But if the fireman is out & needs to write the
permit he would be a contact person & the issuer & close the permit.
 
So it is no different than the IssuedBy, etc. It is just a person.
 
***************
So contact isn't the entity then -- the permit is the entity? 
 
Susan H. 
 
I am getting the fields from a form they complete. It is for a fire permit.
The contact is the Responsible Person Contacted. He might also issue the
permit (IssuedTo) to himself (IssuedBy).
 
Anyway, I have:
Main table (tbl_Permit) that has the ContactID, IssuedToID, etc.
tbl_Type - TypeID, NameType
tbl_PermitNames - PermitNamesID, PermitNames tbl_NameType - NameTypeID,
TypeID, PermitNamesID
 
Do I join each one from tbl_Permit (ContactID, etc) to tbl_NameType
NameTypeID?
 
I still don't see how to create it on the form & reports so the drop down
boxes will know which type it is?
 
 
***************
As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no different
in essence IssuedBy etc.
 
===============OK -- you might be right -- certainly wouldn't want to
complicate the picture unnecessarily. 
 
Susan H. 
 

 

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From kens.programming at verizon.net  Fri Apr 29 11:59:46 2005
From: kens.programming at verizon.net (kens.programming)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:59:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337571@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <0IFP00EKUWEI2CZ5@vms046.mailsrvcs.net>

I did laugh.  It would also help to remember what your spouse is wearing.  

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:52 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true

If you don't laugh out loud at this one, call the morgue and reserve a tray,
because you're dead!!!!!!
Always wear clean underwear in public especially when working under your
vehicle ..
>From the JUPITER FLORIDA Daily News comes this story of a Crestview couple
who drove their car to Wal-Mart, only to have their car break down in the
parking lot. The man told his wife to carry on with the shopping while he
fixed the car in the lot.
The wife returned later to see a small group of people near the car. On
closer inspection, she saw a pair of male legs protruding from under the
chassis. Although the man was in shorts, his lack of underpants turned
private parts into glaringly public ones.
Unable to stand the embarrassment, she dutifully stepped forward, quickly
put her hand UP his shorts, and tucked everything back into place. On
regaining her feet, she looked across the hood and found herself staring at
her husband who was standing idly by.
The mechanic, however, had to have three stitches in his forehead.


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From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 12:02:27 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:02:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739CA@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739CA@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <5f2de24205042910022174b518@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Charlotte, that worked, but I'm still not getting past line
5...I'm now getting "Type mismatch (Error 13)".

1.        Set db = CurrentDb
2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16
5.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
10.      objXLApp.Visible = True
11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults

Mark Mitsules



On 4/29/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> Wen you handle a querydef like that in code, you have to pass the
> parameter values in the code.  You can't rely on a form, even if it is
> open.  So in your code, pass the value of Text14 and the value of Text16
> into the parameters like this:
> 
> qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
> qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16
> 
> Then open your recordset.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Admin Sparky [mailto:dba.email at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:35 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
> 
> Group,
> 
> I have a stored parameter query where the parameters are taken from 2
> controls on a form...this part works great.  The query field is a date
> field and the form controls contain the "Start Date" and "End Date" with
> the parameter for that field listed as:
> 
> Between [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text14] And
> [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text16]
> 
> I have a report based on this query which I can run directly from this
> form...this part also works great.
> 
> Now the question.  From that same form I want to press a button which
> will take the results of that parameter query and put it into an Excel
> spreadsheet.  Can someone point me in the right direction to fill in the
> missing syntax at or around line 4?
> 
> 1.        Set db = CurrentDb
> 2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
> 3. ==> ?
> 4.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
> 5. ==> ?
> 6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
> 7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
> 8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
> 9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
> 10.        objXLApp.Visible = True
> 11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
> 12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
> 13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults
> 
> At the moment I am getting error 3061 on line 4: "Too few parameters.
> Expected 2."  Could this be a problem with scope?  The code above is in
> a separate module and is called by the Form code...is this a problem?
> 
> Thank you for any suggestions,
> 
> Mark Mitsules
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From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 12:07:01 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:07:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
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Message-ID: <5f2de24205042910071d7bf861@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the suggestion Dan.  In this case however, it is an
existing spreadsheet with existing charts that have been developed. 
I'm just trying to automate the updating of the chart's data range
with the latest data from the query on demand.


Mark Mitsules


On 4/29/05, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> I use this function to create the spreadsheet.
> 
>    DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acExport, , "qryMyQuery", _
>        stgFolderName & stgSpreadsheetName
> 
> I use this code to create a folder on the user's PC to put the spreadsheet
> into:
> 
>    Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>    stgFolderName = "C:\" & SystemAcronym & "\"
>    If fso.FolderExists(stgFolderName) = False Then
>        fso.CreateFolder (stgFolderName)
>    End If
>    stgFolderName = "C:\" & SystemAcronym & "\Spreadsheets\"
>    If fso.FolderExists(stgFolderName) = False Then
>        fso.CreateFolder (stgFolderName)
>    End If
>    Set fso = Nothing
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> Dan Waters
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Admin Sparky
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:35 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
> 
> Group,
> 
> I have a stored parameter query where the parameters are taken from 2
> controls on a form...this part works great.  The query field is a date
> field and the form controls contain the "Start Date" and "End Date"
> with the parameter for that field listed as:
> 
> Between [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text14] And
> [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text16]
> 
> I have a report based on this query which I can run directly from this
> form...this part also works great.
> 
> Now the question.  From that same form I want to press a button which
> will take the results of that parameter query and put it into an Excel
> spreadsheet.  Can someone point me in the right direction to fill in
> the missing syntax at or around line 4?
> 
> 1.        Set db = CurrentDb
> 2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
> 3. ==> ?
> 4.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
> 5. ==> ?
> 6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
> 7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
> 8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
> 9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
> 10.        objXLApp.Visible = True
> 11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
> 12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
> 13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults
> 
> At the moment I am getting error 3061 on line 4: "Too few parameters.
> Expected 2."  Could this be a problem with scope?  The code above is
> in a separate module and is called by the Form code...is this a
> problem?
> 
> Thank you for any suggestions,
> 
> Mark Mitsules
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From pjones at btl.net  Fri Apr 29 12:02:38 2005
From: pjones at btl.net (Paul M. Jones)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:02:38 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access 2000 and Terminal Server 2K3
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CBCA@dibble.observator
	y.donnslaw.co.uk>
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Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050429105700.02938d48@pop.btl.net>

Thanks for the offer Tom.
My situation is such:  I have an A2K application that talks to a SQL Server 
database.  Currently I have one (1) .mde front end on a Windows 2K3 
Terminal server.  All TS users have a link to that .mde on their 
desktop.  I have been toying with the idea of placing a copy of the .mde 
file for each user to run independently.  Apart from the issue of the 
ability to update the .mde front end, do you know if there are any major 
issues of one approach over the next, particularly from a system 
performance standpoint?

Paul

At 02:12 AM 4/29/2005, you wrote:
>Hi Paul
>
>I'm just coming to the end of a big AXP on terminal services project - I've
>been up and down just about every road there is.  If you need help with
>anything specific just ask and I'll glady impart any info I've learned.
>
>Cheers
>Tom


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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Apr 29 12:14:07 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:14:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337571@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKIECEFDAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

LOL. That was great Jim! Here's my contribution: ( a bit long)

Mel finally decides to take a vacation. He books himself on a Caribbean
cruise and proceeds to have the time of his life, until the boat sinks.
Mel finds himself swept up on the shore of an island with no other people,
no supplies, nothing. He has only bananas and coconuts.

After about four months, Mel is lying on the beach one day when the most
gorgeous woman Mel has ever seen rows up to him. In disbelief, Mel asks her,
"Where did you come from? How did you get here?"

"I rowed from the other side of the island," she says. "I landed here when
my cruise ship sank."

"Amazing," Mel says. "You were really lucky to have a row boat wash up with
you."

"Oh, this?" replies the woman. "I made the rowboat out of raw materials I
found on the island. The oars were whittled from gum tree branches, I wove
the bottom from palm branches, and the sides and stern came from a
Eucalyptus tree."

"But-but, that's impossible," stutters Mel. "You had no tools or hardware.
How did you manage?"

"Oh, that was no problem," replies the woman. "On the south side of the
island, there is a very unusual strata of alluvial rock exposed. I found if
I fired it to a certain temperature in my kiln, it melted into forgeable
ductile iron. I used that for tools and used the tools to make the
hardware."

 Mel is stunned.

"Let's row over to my place," she says.

After an hour or so of rowing, she docks the boat at a small wharf. As Mel
looks on to shore, Mel nearly falls out of the boat. Before him is a stone
walk leading to an exquisite bungalow painted in blue and white. While the
woman ties up the rowboat with an expertly woven hemp rope, Mel could only
stare ahead, dumbstruck.

As they walk into the house, she says casually, "It's not much, but I call
it home. Sit down please. Would you like to have a drink?"

"No, no thank you," Mel says, still dazed. "I can't take any more coconut
juice."

"It's not coconut juice," the woman replies. "I have a still. How about a
Pina Colada?"

Trying to hide his continued amazement, Mel accepts, and they sit down on
her couch to talk. After they have exchanged their stories, the woman
announces, "I'm going to slip into something more comfortable. Would you
like to take a shower and shave? There is a razor upstairs in the cabinet in
the bathroom."

No longer questioning anything, Mel goes into the bathroom. There, in the
cabinet, is a razor made from a bone handle. Two shells honed to a hollow
ground edge are fastened onto its end inside of a swivel mechanism. "Wow!
This woman is amazing," Mel muses. "What next?"

When Mel returns, she greets him wearing nothing but vines, strategically
positioned, and smelling faintly of gardenias. She beckons for him to sit
down next to her.

"Tell me," she begins suggestively, slithering closer to him, "We've been
out here for a really long time. You've been lonely. There's something I'm
sure you really feel like doing right now, something you've been longing for
all these months. You know..." She stares into his eyes. Mel can't believe
what he's hearing:

"You mean", he swallows excitedly, "I can actually check my e-mail from
here?"



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 29 12:11:29 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:11:29 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
Message-ID: <s2728705.015@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

Those textboxes probably contain dates:

3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = "#" & Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14 &
"#"
4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = "#" & Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16 &
"#"

You may even need to format these to US date format:

3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = "#" &
Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"
4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = "#" &
Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"

/gustav


>>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 7:02 pm >>>
Thank you Charlotte, that worked, but I'm still not getting past line
5...I'm now getting "Type mismatch (Error 13)".

1.        Set db = CurrentDb
2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16
5.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
10.      objXLApp.Visible = True
11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults

Mark Mitsules



On 4/29/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> Wen you handle a querydef like that in code, you have to pass the
> parameter values in the code.  You can't rely on a form, even if it
is
> open.  So in your code, pass the value of Text14 and the value of
Text16
> into the parameters like this:
> 
> qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
> qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16
> 
> Then open your recordset.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Admin Sparky [mailto:dba.email at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:35 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
> 
> Group,
> 
> I have a stored parameter query where the parameters are taken from
2
> controls on a form...this part works great.  The query field is a
date
> field and the form controls contain the "Start Date" and "End Date"
with
> the parameter for that field listed as:
> 
> Between [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text14] And
> [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text16]
> 
> I have a report based on this query which I can run directly from
this
> form...this part also works great.
> 
> Now the question.  From that same form I want to press a button
which
> will take the results of that parameter query and put it into an
Excel
> spreadsheet.  Can someone point me in the right direction to fill in
the
> missing syntax at or around line 4?
> 
> 1.        Set db = CurrentDb
> 2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
> 3. ==> ?
> 4.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
> 5. ==> ?
> 6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
> 7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
> 8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
> 9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
> 10.        objXLApp.Visible = True
> 11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
> 12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
> 13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults
> 
> At the moment I am getting error 3061 on line 4: "Too few
parameters.
> Expected 2."  Could this be a problem with scope?  The code above is
in
> a separate module and is called by the Form code...is this a
problem?



From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Apr 29 12:17:25 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:17:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT Joke
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337571@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKMECEFDAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

These days, it is hard to find a joke today without a dirty word or two in
it, but here is one:

Two tall trees, a birch and a beech, are growing in the woods. A small tree
begins to grow between them, and the beech says to the birch, "Is that a son
of a beech or a son of a birch?"

The birch says he cannot tell.

Just then a woodpecker lands on the sapling.  The birch says, "Woodpecker,
you are a tree expert. Can you tell if that is a son of a beech or a son of
a birch?"

The woodpecker takes a taste of the small tree. He replies, "It is neither a
son of a beech nor a son of a birch. It is, however, the best piece of ash I
have ever put my pecker in."



From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Fri Apr 29 12:39:08 2005
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:39:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] UNION query bug?
Message-ID: <002001c54ce2$592f0220$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

I thought that a union query (Access 97) combines the results of 2 or more queries  For example:

qryC = SELECT * FROM qryA UNION SELECT * FROM qryB;

qryA contains 1 row and qryB contains 1 row.  qryC should always produce 2 rows??

qryA contains 3 fields (Purchase Order#, Cost Acct#, Amount) from tblA
qryB contains the same 3 fields (Purchase Order#, Cost Acct#, Amount) from tblB

If the data is the same in qryA and qryB, qryC contains only 1 row.

If this is not a bug, how do I force qryC to produce 2 rows?  In my situation, qryA contains information about per diem costs and qryB contains information about bonuses, mobilization/demob costs, etc.  I need to sum these costs.  This is usually not a problem since the amounts are usually different

Thanks,
Barb Ryan



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 29 12:44:00 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:44:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] UNION query bug?
In-Reply-To: <002001c54ce2$592f0220$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <20050429174358.HFLC2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Try UNION ALL. UNION omits duplicates. 

Susan H. 
If this is not a bug, how do I force qryC to produce 2 rows?  In my
situation, qryA contains information about per diem costs and qryB contains
information about bonuses, mobilization/demob costs, etc.  I need to sum
these costs.  This is usually not a problem since the amounts are usually
different




From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Fri Apr 29 12:50:28 2005
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:50:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] UNION query bug?
References: <20050429174358.HFLC2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <002701c54ce3$ee495e40$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

Thanks, Susan!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] UNION query bug?


> Try UNION ALL. UNION omits duplicates.
>
> Susan H.
> If this is not a bug, how do I force qryC to produce 2 rows?  In my
> situation, qryA contains information about per diem costs and qryB
contains
> information about bonuses, mobilization/demob costs, etc.  I need to sum
> these costs.  This is usually not a problem since the amounts are usually
> different
>
>
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From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 12:58:22 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:58:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <s2728705.015@cactus.dk>
References: <s2728705.015@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <5f2de242050429105830b6d74b@mail.gmail.com>

Well now...that was interesting...now I get a very specific message:
"Data type mismatch in criteria expression."

When viewed in the Locals window the first parameter value is "#10/1/2004#".
Prior to this run, it read "10/1/2004".  In both cases the Type is
listed as Variant/String.

I'm wondering if the problem is the quotes.  For instance, another
property for qdfMetrics is DateCreated.  The value for DateCreated
contains no quotes it reads: #4/28/2005 12:46:53 PM#, and the Type is
listed as Variant/Date.

I tried this:
qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)
...but the Type was still listed as Variant/String with a value of
"10/1/2004".


...frustratingly yours,


Mark Mitsules




On 4/29/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Mark
> 
> Those textboxes probably contain dates:
> 
> 3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = "#" & Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14 &
> "#"
> 4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = "#" & Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16 &
> "#"
> 
> You may even need to format these to US date format:
> 
> 3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = "#" &
> Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"
> 4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = "#" &
> Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 7:02 pm >>>
> Thank you Charlotte, that worked, but I'm still not getting past line
> 5...I'm now getting "Type mismatch (Error 13)".
> 
> 1.        Set db = CurrentDb
> 2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
> 3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
> 4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16
> 5.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
> 6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
> 7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
> 8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
> 9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
> 10.      objXLApp.Visible = True
> 11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
> 12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
> 13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults
> 
> Mark Mitsules

<SNIP>


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 29 13:06:37 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:06:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
Message-ID: <s27293ea.016@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

Then I guess the #'s are contained in the query.
If so:

3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = "'" &
Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "'"
4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = "'" &
Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "'"

/gustav


>>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 7:58 pm >>>
Well now...that was interesting...now I get a very specific message:
"Data type mismatch in criteria expression."

When viewed in the Locals window the first parameter value is
"#10/1/2004#".
Prior to this run, it read "10/1/2004".  In both cases the Type is
listed as Variant/String.

I'm wondering if the problem is the quotes.  For instance, another
property for qdfMetrics is DateCreated.  The value for DateCreated
contains no quotes it reads: #4/28/2005 12:46:53 PM#, and the Type is
listed as Variant/Date.

I tried this:
qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)
...but the Type was still listed as Variant/String with a value of
"10/1/2004".



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Apr 29 13:12:46 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:12:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337573@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

ROFLOL! The punch line was well worth the read!
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 12:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true


LOL. That was great Jim! Here's my contribution: ( a bit long)

Mel finally decides to take a vacation. He books himself on a Caribbean
cruise and proceeds to have the time of his life, until the boat sinks.
Mel finds himself swept up on the shore of an island with no other people,
no supplies, nothing. He has only bananas and coconuts.

After about four months, Mel is lying on the beach one day when the most
gorgeous woman Mel has ever seen rows up to him. In disbelief, Mel asks her,
"Where did you come from? How did you get here?"

"I rowed from the other side of the island," she says. "I landed here when
my cruise ship sank."

"Amazing," Mel says. "You were really lucky to have a row boat wash up with
you."

"Oh, this?" replies the woman. "I made the rowboat out of raw materials I
found on the island. The oars were whittled from gum tree branches, I wove
the bottom from palm branches, and the sides and stern came from a
Eucalyptus tree."

"But-but, that's impossible," stutters Mel. "You had no tools or hardware.
How did you manage?"

"Oh, that was no problem," replies the woman. "On the south side of the
island, there is a very unusual strata of alluvial rock exposed. I found if
I fired it to a certain temperature in my kiln, it melted into forgeable
ductile iron. I used that for tools and used the tools to make the
hardware."

 Mel is stunned.

"Let's row over to my place," she says.

After an hour or so of rowing, she docks the boat at a small wharf. As Mel
looks on to shore, Mel nearly falls out of the boat. Before him is a stone
walk leading to an exquisite bungalow painted in blue and white. While the
woman ties up the rowboat with an expertly woven hemp rope, Mel could only
stare ahead, dumbstruck.

As they walk into the house, she says casually, "It's not much, but I call
it home. Sit down please. Would you like to have a drink?"

"No, no thank you," Mel says, still dazed. "I can't take any more coconut
juice."

"It's not coconut juice," the woman replies. "I have a still. How about a
Pina Colada?"

Trying to hide his continued amazement, Mel accepts, and they sit down on
her couch to talk. After they have exchanged their stories, the woman
announces, "I'm going to slip into something more comfortable. Would you
like to take a shower and shave? There is a razor upstairs in the cabinet in
the bathroom."

No longer questioning anything, Mel goes into the bathroom. There, in the
cabinet, is a razor made from a bone handle. Two shells honed to a hollow
ground edge are fastened onto its end inside of a swivel mechanism. "Wow!
This woman is amazing," Mel muses. "What next?"

When Mel returns, she greets him wearing nothing but vines, strategically
positioned, and smelling faintly of gardenias. She beckons for him to sit
down next to her.

"Tell me," she begins suggestively, slithering closer to him, "We've been
out here for a really long time. You've been lonely. There's something I'm
sure you really feel like doing right now, something you've been longing for
all these months. You know..." She stares into his eyes. Mel can't believe
what he's hearing:

"You mean", he swallows excitedly, "I can actually check my e-mail from
here?"

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From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 14:04:50 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:04:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <s27293ea.016@cactus.dk>
References: <s27293ea.016@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <5f2de2420504291204dbceed8@mail.gmail.com>

These each produce data type mismatch errors.
qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = 1., 2., or 3.

1. Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
2. "#" & Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"
3. DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)

In an online example that I saw, they used the following:
Dim prm As Parameter
For Each prm In qd.Parameters
prm.Value = Eval(prm.Name)
Next prm

This method hasn't worked either...same error message.

I can't remember exactly how the quote goes...something like "I must
be closer to the solution, because I've just discovered another way it
won't work".

Mark Mitsules




On 4/29/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Mark
> 
> Then I guess the #'s are contained in the query.
> If so:
> 
> 3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = "'" &
> Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "'"
> 4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = "'" &
> Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "'"
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 7:58 pm >>>
> Well now...that was interesting...now I get a very specific message:
> "Data type mismatch in criteria expression."
> 
> When viewed in the Locals window the first parameter value is
> "#10/1/2004#".
> Prior to this run, it read "10/1/2004".  In both cases the Type is
> listed as Variant/String.
> 
> I'm wondering if the problem is the quotes.  For instance, another
> property for qdfMetrics is DateCreated.  The value for DateCreated
> contains no quotes it reads: #4/28/2005 12:46:53 PM#, and the Type is
> listed as Variant/Date.
> 
> I tried this:
> qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)
> ...but the Type was still listed as Variant/String with a value of
> "10/1/2004".
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 29 14:12:57 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:12:57 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
Message-ID: <s272a362.017@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

If none of these work, your SQL must be pretty strange.

You may have to bring it forward ...

/gustav

>>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 9:04 pm >>>
These each produce data type mismatch errors.
qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = 1., 2., or 3.

1. Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
2. "#" & Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"
3. DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)

In an online example that I saw, they used the following:
Dim prm As Parameter
For Each prm In qd.Parameters
prm.Value = Eval(prm.Name)
Next prm

This method hasn't worked either...same error message.

I can't remember exactly how the quote goes...something like "I must
be closer to the solution, because I've just discovered another way it
won't work".

Mark Mitsules



From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 14:23:04 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:23:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <s272a362.017@cactus.dk>
References: <s272a362.017@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <5f2de2420504291223256b06c3@mail.gmail.com>

You know...this happened to me once before...going 'round and 'round
on a problem till it was pointed out that what I was attempting
couldn't be done with a totals query.  As it happens, this IS a totals
query...could that be the problem?

Mark Mitsules


On 4/29/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Mark
> 
> If none of these work, your SQL must be pretty strange.
> 
> You may have to bring it forward ...
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 9:04 pm >>>
> These each produce data type mismatch errors.
> qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = 1., 2., or 3.
> 
> 1. Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
> 2. "#" & Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"
> 3. DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)
> 
> In an online example that I saw, they used the following:
> Dim prm As Parameter
> For Each prm In qd.Parameters
> prm.Value = Eval(prm.Name)
> Next prm
> 
> This method hasn't worked either...same error message.
> 
> I can't remember exactly how the quote goes...something like "I must
> be closer to the solution, because I've just discovered another way it
> won't work".
> 
> Mark Mitsules
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Apr 29 14:29:47 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:29:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional compile based on Office version
Message-ID: <006a01c54cf1$cdc22810$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Does anyone know if it is possible to do a conditional compile based on the
version number.  IOW, I have a line of code valid in OfficeXP (it references
a control property valid in XP but not previously) so the code compiles
correctly in XP but not in 2K.  I would like to use a #if #endif bracket
around the code to just not compile that line of code if the version is 2K.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 14:40:16 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:40:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <5f2de2420504291223256b06c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s272a362.017@cactus.dk>
	<5f2de2420504291223256b06c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f2de24205042912406ace164b@mail.gmail.com>

*** SOLVED *** (but don't ask why)

You are not going to believe this one!  I've had a continual search
going on all day for what may be the problem.  I finally found a
cached page from a google search from someone who had my exact
"symptoms".  It turns out that his DAO reference had migrated below
his Excel reference and after re-ordering his references everything
worked.  Now, in my case my DAO reference was already ahead in the
order, but I figured "what the heck" it may just be a flaky reference,
so I re-ordered them, then re-ordered them back again.

Now everything works using Charlotte's original syntax.  Whoohoo!

Mark Mitsules



On 4/29/05, Admin Sparky <dba.email at gmail.com> wrote:
> You know...this happened to me once before...going 'round and 'round
> on a problem till it was pointed out that what I was attempting
> couldn't be done with a totals query.  As it happens, this IS a totals
> query...could that be the problem?
> 
> Mark Mitsules
> 
> On 4/29/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> > Hi Mark
> >
> > If none of these work, your SQL must be pretty strange.
> >
> > You may have to bring it forward ...
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> > >>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 9:04 pm >>>
> > These each produce data type mismatch errors.
> > qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = 1., 2., or 3.
> >
> > 1. Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
> > 2. "#" & Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"
> > 3. DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)
> >
> > In an online example that I saw, they used the following:
> > Dim prm As Parameter
> > For Each prm In qd.Parameters
> > prm.Value = Eval(prm.Name)
> > Next prm
> >
> > This method hasn't worked either...same error message.
> >
> > I can't remember exactly how the quote goes...something like "I must
> > be closer to the solution, because I've just discovered another way it
> > won't work".
> >
> > Mark Mitsules
> >
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Apr 29 14:48:16 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:48:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <5f2de24205042912406ace164b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006b01c54cf4$66658e70$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

SCARY stuff!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Admin Sparky
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code


*** SOLVED *** (but don't ask why)

You are not going to believe this one!  I've had a continual search going on
all day for what may be the problem.  I finally found a cached page from a
google search from someone who had my exact "symptoms".  It turns out that
his DAO reference had migrated below his Excel reference and after
re-ordering his references everything worked.  Now, in my case my DAO
reference was already ahead in the order, but I figured "what the heck" it
may just be a flaky reference, so I re-ordered them, then re-ordered them
back again.

Now everything works using Charlotte's original syntax.  Whoohoo!

Mark Mitsules



On 4/29/05, Admin Sparky <dba.email at gmail.com> wrote:
> You know...this happened to me once before...going 'round and 'round 
> on a problem till it was pointed out that what I was attempting 
> couldn't be done with a totals query.  As it happens, this IS a totals 
> query...could that be the problem?
> 
> Mark Mitsules
> 
> On 4/29/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> > Hi Mark
> >
> > If none of these work, your SQL must be pretty strange.
> >
> > You may have to bring it forward ...
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> > >>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 9:04 pm >>>
> > These each produce data type mismatch errors.
> > qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = 1., 2., or 3.
> >
> > 1. Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
> > 2. "#" & Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#" 3. 
> > DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)
> >
> > In an online example that I saw, they used the following: Dim prm As 
> > Parameter For Each prm In qd.Parameters
> > prm.Value = Eval(prm.Name)
> > Next prm
> >
> > This method hasn't worked either...same error message.
> >
> > I can't remember exactly how the quote goes...something like "I must 
> > be closer to the solution, because I've just discovered another way 
> > it won't work".
> >
> > Mark Mitsules
> >
> > --
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> >
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 29 15:00:36 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:00:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: NYC area talent search
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F55@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Hello All,

I don't post too much truly OT stuff here but allow me this one completely off topic post.  Last year I came out of a 10 year retirement from the music biz and began playing the local (NYC suburban) music scene. This was probably spurred on by my (then) 14 year old son joining a bunch of very advanced teens and making a quick splash on the same scene.  Their group disbanded and my son and his talented bass playing school mate then joined our group after filling in while we unsuccessfully searched for a rhythm section.

Long story short, please see our web site for details on a pending major label record deal these talented teens have in the works, http://www.rocktillyadrop.com (Mozilla users may have trouble with the colored font sorry).  We need to find some young players in the NYC area  to fill out the line up though.  I'm posting notices anywhere I can and I know we've got lots of musicians on the list.  Perhaps one of you has a child or relative or friend who is a very talented teen.  If so please have them contact us via the links on the site.

Thanks for the indulgence,

Jim DeMarco


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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Apr 29 15:20:33 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:20:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional compile based on Office version
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2FF7@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

The conditional compilation feature of Access (and most other programming
environments) requires that you use only conditional compiler constants
(declared using #Const or the user interface [i.e. the dialog box you get to
in the VBA Ide under Tools {Project Name} Properties]).

So you cannot execute code during compilation to discover what version is
doing the compiling. You'll have to declare the constants yourself and set
them to the appropriate values prior to compiling. By declaring/setting
these in the project properties dialog you will be able to compile the code
without making any changes to it at all.  

Also the properties dialog it the only place you can declare a 'public'
conditional constant that is visible in all modules.

Lambert

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> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
> Sent:	Friday, April 29, 2005 3:30 PM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	[AccessD] Conditional compile based on Office version
> 
> Does anyone know if it is possible to do a conditional compile based on
> the
> version number.  IOW, I have a line of code valid in OfficeXP (it
> references
> a control property valid in XP but not previously) so the code compiles
> correctly in XP but not in 2K.  I would like to use a #if #endif bracket
> around the code to just not compile that line of code if the version is
> 2K.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
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> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Apr 29 15:57:39 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:57:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT:Friday Humour (or Humor)
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D889@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Wow Stuart, I was drinking a glass of DHMO when I read that article.
Thanks for the heads up! 

-----Original Message-----
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McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT:Friday Humour (or Humor)


http://www.zippynet.com/pages/bandhmo.htm



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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr 29 16:13:20 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:13:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3EB@main2.marlow.com>

Or what his/her private parts look like!

Drew

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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 12:00 PM
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I did laugh.  It would also help to remember what your spouse is wearing.  

Ken

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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:52 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true

If you don't laugh out loud at this one, call the morgue and reserve a tray,
because you're dead!!!!!!
Always wear clean underwear in public especially when working under your
vehicle ..
>From the JUPITER FLORIDA Daily News comes this story of a Crestview couple
who drove their car to Wal-Mart, only to have their car break down in the
parking lot. The man told his wife to carry on with the shopping while he
fixed the car in the lot.
The wife returned later to see a small group of people near the car. On
closer inspection, she saw a pair of male legs protruding from under the
chassis. Although the man was in shorts, his lack of underpants turned
private parts into glaringly public ones.
Unable to stand the embarrassment, she dutifully stepped forward, quickly
put her hand UP his shorts, and tucked everything back into place. On
regaining her feet, she looked across the hood and found herself staring at
her husband who was standing idly by.
The mechanic, however, had to have three stitches in his forehead.


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From accma at sympatico.ca  Fri Apr 29 21:25:27 2005
From: accma at sympatico.ca (Annie Courchesne, CMA)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:25:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access
In-Reply-To: <4270CF28.12820.1951A2D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20050430022524.UUCO2981.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>

Thanks for the info.  I will download the demo and do some further testing.

Annie

-----Message d'origine-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] De la part de Stuart McLachlan
Envoy??: 27 avril 2005 21:55
??: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Objet?: RE: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access

On 27 Apr 2005 at 20:18, Liz Doering wrote:

> Annie,
> 
> I have found that FileMaker Pro can export to .xls or .dbf, but it isn't
> itself a format that Access can link to.  So your import will have to be
> a two step process, one an export from within FileMaker Pro, then a
> separate import into Access.  Your best hope will be to get some
> familiarity with FileMaker Pro:  they have a 30-day free trial at
> https://www.filemaker.com/downloads/trial_download.html
> 


Filemaker Pro claims to allow you to access it's data from other 
applications using ODBC, but there is very little detail on their website.
I suspect the ODBC driver comes as part of their Development Package.

You could also try the Fielmaker Pro ODBC driver at 
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/1602


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From accma at sympatico.ca  Fri Apr 29 21:27:04 2005
From: accma at sympatico.ca (Annie Courchesne, CMA)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:27:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode
Message-ID: <20050430022701.HXEB26128.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>

Hi everyone,

I need to add a barcode in a report.  From what I've read, we can either use
a font or an activex. What's best?  Anyone know of the best solution for
code 128 bar code?

Thanks!


Annie Courchesne, CMA




From accma at sympatico.ca  Fri Apr 29 21:28:43 2005
From: accma at sympatico.ca (Annie Courchesne, CMA)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:28:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] .DAT file from Quickbasic
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAfeYKR0tHo0mmh3+LyaY3xcKAAAAQAAAACcxxl1KbYUuOKmGd1egQxgEAAAAA@sympatico.ca>

Hi everyone,

Anyone out there with a idea on how to import data from a .DAT file that was
created with quick basic a few years ago?

Thanks!


Annie Courchesne, CMA




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr 29 21:39:13 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:39:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] .DAT file from Quickbasic
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAfeYKR0tHo0mmh3+LyaY3xcKAAAAQAAAACcxxl1KbYUuOKmGd1egQxgEAAAAA@sympatico.ca>
Message-ID: <42737C71.10880.888E56F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 29 Apr 2005 at 22:28, Annie Courchesne, CMA wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Anyone out there with a idea on how to import data from a .DAT file that was
> created with quick basic a few years ago?
> 

QuickBasic didn't have a built in data format, it could be anything.

You'll need to open the file with hex editor  and work out exactly how the 
data is stored in it before you can do anything with it.

-- 
Stuart




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr 29 21:48:32 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:48:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode
In-Reply-To: <20050430022701.HXEB26128.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>
Message-ID: <42737EA0.5444.8916EBC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 29 Apr 2005 at 22:27, Annie Courchesne, CMA wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I need to add a barcode in a report.  From what I've read, we can either use
> a font or an activex. What's best?  Anyone know of the best solution for
> code 128 bar code?
> 
Code 128 gets quite tricky, there are various character sets and a checksum 
to deal with.

Take a look at http://www.idautomation.com/code128faq.html



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From KP at sdsonline.net  Fri Apr 29 21:51:06 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:51:06 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humour
Message-ID: <004b01c54d2f$750e24b0$6401a8c0@user>

:)...still laughing - 
thanks everyone for the Friday contributions- 

Kath



From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Apr 29 22:47:08 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:47:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode
In-Reply-To: <20050430022701.HXEB26128.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKECNFDAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

You can make your own. I did that with UPC-13 font (Which is a variation/new
version of UPC-A). I can provide you with a sample if you wish. There is a
free Code39 available on the web as well.

David

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Annie
Courchesne, CMA
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode


Hi everyone,

I need to add a barcode in a report.  From what I've read, we can either use
a font or an activex. What's best?  Anyone know of the best solution for
code 128 bar code?

Thanks!


Annie Courchesne, CMA



From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 22:58:11 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:58:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <004b01c54d2f$750e24b0$6401a8c0@user>
References: <004b01c54d2f$750e24b0$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <aea6c49505042920584a1c10c9@mail.gmail.com>

Here's one more for you, just under the wire.....  (11:pm)


Home remedies that really work....


1. A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you
from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze
button.

2. If you are choking on an ice cube, don't panic!  Simply pour a cup
of boiling water down your throat and presto!  The blockage will be
almost instantly removed.

3. Clumsy?  Avoid cutting yourself while slicing vegetables by getting
someone else to hold them while you chop away.

4. Avoid arguments with the Mrs. about lifting the toilet seat by
simply using the sink.

5. For high blood pressure sufferers:  just cut yourself and bleed for
a few minutes, thus reducing the pressure in your veins.

6. If you have a bad cough, take a large dose of laxatives, then you
will be afraid to cough.

7. Have a bad toothache?  Smash your thumb with a hammer and you will
forget about the toothache.



On 4/29/05, Kath Pelletti <KP at sdsonline.net> wrote:
> :)...still laughing -
> thanks everyone for the Friday contributions-
> 
> Kath
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Sat Apr 30 00:02:26 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:02:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <aea6c49505042920584a1c10c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKGECOFDAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

Still 10 PM here ;)

Another fix for #4, which actually worked for me, was to always put the top
cover down as well as the seat. :P

D

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday humour


Here's one more for you, just under the wire.....  (11:pm)


Home remedies that really work....


1. A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you
from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze
button.

2. If you are choking on an ice cube, don't panic!  Simply pour a cup
of boiling water down your throat and presto!  The blockage will be
almost instantly removed.

3. Clumsy?  Avoid cutting yourself while slicing vegetables by getting
someone else to hold them while you chop away.

4. Avoid arguments with the Mrs. about lifting the toilet seat by
simply using the sink.

5. For high blood pressure sufferers:  just cut yourself and bleed for
a few minutes, thus reducing the pressure in your veins.

6. If you have a bad cough, take a large dose of laxatives, then you
will be afraid to cough.

7. Have a bad toothache?  Smash your thumb with a hammer and you will
forget about the toothache.



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> :)...still laughing -
> thanks everyone for the Friday contributions-
>
> Kath
>
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From max at sherman.org.uk  Sat Apr 30 07:00:01 2005
From: max at sherman.org.uk (accessd)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:00:01 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKECNFDAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <20050430120002.GYSI1289.aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@server>

David,
Any chance of a copy please?
Regards
Max Sherman 

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Sent: 30 April 2005 04:47
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Barcode

You can make your own. I did that with UPC-13 font (Which is a variation/new
version of UPC-A). I can provide you with a sample if you wish. There is a
free Code39 available on the web as well.

David

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Annie Courchesne,
CMA
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode


Hi everyone,

I need to add a barcode in a report.  From what I've read, we can either use
a font or an activex. What's best?  Anyone know of the best solution for
code 128 bar code?

Thanks!


Annie Courchesne, CMA

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From max at sherman.org.uk  Sat Apr 30 07:02:40 2005
From: max at sherman.org.uk (accessd)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:02:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <006b01c54cf4$66658e70$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050430120241.HCID1289.aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@server>

Could it be that both the reference has a similar named function/code and it
was taking the first one found?
Max Sherman 

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Sent: 29 April 2005 20:48
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code

SCARY stuff!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code


*** SOLVED *** (but don't ask why)

You are not going to believe this one!  I've had a continual search going on
all day for what may be the problem.  I finally found a cached page from a
google search from someone who had my exact "symptoms".  It turns out that
his DAO reference had migrated below his Excel reference and after
re-ordering his references everything worked.  Now, in my case my DAO
reference was already ahead in the order, but I figured "what the heck" it
may just be a flaky reference, so I re-ordered them, then re-ordered them
back again.

Now everything works using Charlotte's original syntax.  Whoohoo!

Mark Mitsules



On 4/29/05, Admin Sparky <dba.email at gmail.com> wrote:
> You know...this happened to me once before...going 'round and 'round 
> on a problem till it was pointed out that what I was attempting 
> couldn't be done with a totals query.  As it happens, this IS a totals 
> query...could that be the problem?
> 
> Mark Mitsules
> 
> On 4/29/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> > Hi Mark
> >
> > If none of these work, your SQL must be pretty strange.
> >
> > You may have to bring it forward ...
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> > >>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 9:04 pm >>>
> > These each produce data type mismatch errors.
> > qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = 1., 2., or 3.
> >
> > 1. Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
> > 2. "#" & Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#" 3. 
> > DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)
> >
> > In an online example that I saw, they used the following: Dim prm As 
> > Parameter For Each prm In qd.Parameters prm.Value = Eval(prm.Name) 
> > Next prm
> >
> > This method hasn't worked either...same error message.
> >
> > I can't remember exactly how the quote goes...something like "I must 
> > be closer to the solution, because I've just discovered another way 
> > it won't work".
> >
> > Mark Mitsules
> >
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From accma at sympatico.ca  Sat Apr 30 07:06:08 2005
From: accma at sympatico.ca (Annie Courchesne, CMA)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:06:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKECNFDAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <20050430120605.UNNT8412.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>

Hi David,

Yes, I would appreciate getting a sample. Also, do you know the web site
where I can get the free Code39?

Thanks!


Annie Courchesne, CMA


-----Message d'origine-----
De?: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] De la part de
dmcafee at pacbell.net
Envoy??: 29 avril 2005 23:47
??: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Objet?: RE: [AccessD] Barcode

You can make your own. I did that with UPC-13 font (Which is a variation/new
version of UPC-A). I can provide you with a sample if you wish. There is a
free Code39 available on the web as well.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Annie
Courchesne, CMA
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode


Hi everyone,

I need to add a barcode in a report.  From what I've read, we can either use
a font or an activex. What's best?  Anyone know of the best solution for
code 128 bar code?

Thanks!


Annie Courchesne, CMA

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Apr 30 08:15:33 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:15:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode
In-Reply-To: <20050430120605.UNNT8412.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>
References: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKECNFDAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <42741195.29616.ACF6AEC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 30 Apr 2005 at 8:06, Annie Courchesne, CMA wrote:

> Hi David,
> 
> Yes, I would appreciate getting a sample. Also, do you know the web site
> where I can get the free Code39?
> 

Here's a couple of free Code39s

http://www.idautomation.com/fonts/free/
http://www.montereysoft.com/Products/Freebarcode39font.asp

If you are just using Code39,  you can easily include barcodes in reports, 
just put asterisks round the string you want coded and set the font of the 
control to the Code39 font.



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From jedi at charm.net  Sat Apr 30 09:00:16 2005
From: jedi at charm.net (Michael Bahr)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:00:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:Friday Humour (or Humor)
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D889@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
References: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D889@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <200504301000160455.AD7B1778@mail.cablespeed.com>

Here is the official web site.  http://www.dhmo.org/

Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound,
also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium
Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the unstable radical
Hydroxide, the components of which are found in a number of caustic,
explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and
Ethyl Alcohol.

Did you know:
Inhalation can be fatal?
Is found in cancer?
Is found in beer, soft drinks, alcohol beverages, milk?
Can cause severe burns.
Contrbutes to soil erosion.
Is an additive in junk food?
Found in nuclear power plants?
Is a major component to acid rain?

You should be concerned, Mike...


*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 4/29/2005 at 3:57 PM Brett Barabash wrote:

>Wow Stuart, I was drinking a glass of DHMO when I read that article.
>Thanks for the heads up! 
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:09 PM
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>Subject: [AccessD] OT:Friday Humour (or Humor)
>
>
>http://www.zippynet.com/pages/bandhmo.htm
>
>
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr 30 10:46:51 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:46:51 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode
Message-ID: <s273c49c.019@cactus.dk>

Hi Annie

Here's one source:

http://www.squaregear.net/fonts/free3of9.shtml 

/gustav


>>> accma at sympatico.ca 04/30 2:06 pm >>>
Hi David,

Yes, I would appreciate getting a sample. Also, do you know the web
site
where I can get the free Code39?

Thanks!


Annie Courchesne, CMA


-----Message d'origine-----
De : accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] De la part de
dmcafee at pacbell.net 
Envoy? : 29 avril 2005 23:47
? : Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Objet : RE: [AccessD] Barcode

You can make your own. I did that with UPC-13 font (Which is a
variation/new
version of UPC-A). I can provide you with a sample if you wish. There
is a
free Code39 available on the web as well.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Annie
Courchesne, CMA
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode


Hi everyone,

I need to add a barcode in a report.  From what I've read, we can
either use
a font or an activex. What's best?  Anyone know of the best solution
for
code 128 bar code?



From chris at denverdb.com  Sat Apr 30 12:23:09 2005
From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:23:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional compile based on Office version
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2FF7@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <GGENIBBECLOHCDNANHMOOECEFBAA.chris@denverdb.com>

You can however, open the file, read the desired value and write that out to
the Conditional Compilation property, then close the db, open it with a
recompile and you're good.  So with a little work you can pull i toff no
problem.

The key, like so many other times, is in ADH, see their documentation of the
SetOption argument used to rewrite the Conditional Compilation value.  The
only real gotcha is that you must set ALL of the conidtional compilation
arguments at the same time. So if you have more than one, write them all
out, otherwise if you only set 1, the others are gone.

-Chris Mackin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 2:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John W. Colby'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Conditional compile based on Office version


The conditional compilation feature of Access (and most other programming
environments) requires that you use only conditional compiler constants
(declared using #Const or the user interface [i.e. the dialog box you get to
in the VBA Ide under Tools {Project Name} Properties]).

So you cannot execute code during compilation to discover what version is
doing the compiling. You'll have to declare the constants yourself and set
them to the appropriate values prior to compiling. By declaring/setting
these in the project properties dialog you will be able to compile the code
without making any changes to it at all.

Also the properties dialog it the only place you can declare a 'public'
conditional constant that is visible in all modules.

Lambert

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> Sent:	Friday, April 29, 2005 3:30 PM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	[AccessD] Conditional compile based on Office version
>
> Does anyone know if it is possible to do a conditional compile based on
> the
> version number.  IOW, I have a line of code valid in OfficeXP (it
> references
> a control property valid in XP but not previously) so the code compiles
> correctly in XP but not in 2K.  I would like to use a #if #endif bracket
> around the code to just not compile that line of code if the version is
> 2K.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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From chris at denverdb.com  Sat Apr 30 12:25:07 2005
From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:25:07 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access
In-Reply-To: <20050430022524.UUCO2981.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>
Message-ID: <GGENIBBECLOHCDNANHMOCECFFBAA.chris@denverdb.com>

You can link to FileMaker Pro via ODBC that comes with FileMaker Pro.  It is
very frustrating and FMP is a piece of s*** application, but I've done it.
One key pitfall, and there are many, is that FMP must have the file open
that you are connecting to, otherwise the ODBC connection will fail.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Annie
Courchesne, CMA
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access


Thanks for the info.  I will download the demo and do some further testing.

Annie

-----Message d'origine-----
De?: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] De la part de Stuart McLachlan
Envoy??: 27 avril 2005 21:55
??: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Objet?: RE: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access

On 27 Apr 2005 at 20:18, Liz Doering wrote:

> Annie,
>
> I have found that FileMaker Pro can export to .xls or .dbf, but it isn't
> itself a format that Access can link to.  So your import will have to be
> a two step process, one an export from within FileMaker Pro, then a
> separate import into Access.  Your best hope will be to get some
> familiarity with FileMaker Pro:  they have a 30-day free trial at
> https://www.filemaker.com/downloads/trial_download.html
>


Filemaker Pro claims to allow you to access it's data from other
applications using ODBC, but there is very little detail on their website.
I suspect the ODBC driver comes as part of their Development Package.

You could also try the Fielmaker Pro ODBC driver at
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/1602


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From accma at sympatico.ca  Sat Apr 30 13:32:15 2005
From: accma at sympatico.ca (Annie Courchesne, CMA)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:32:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access
In-Reply-To: <GGENIBBECLOHCDNANHMOCECFFBAA.chris@denverdb.com>
Message-ID: <20050430183211.LHKV26128.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>

Chris,

Thanks for the info, I will try this with the demo version of file marker
pro.


Annie


-----Message d'origine-----
De?: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] De la part de Chris Mackin
Envoy??: 30 avril 2005 13:25
??: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Objet?: RE: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access

You can link to FileMaker Pro via ODBC that comes with FileMaker Pro.  It is
very frustrating and FMP is a piece of s*** application, but I've done it.
One key pitfall, and there are many, is that FMP must have the file open
that you are connecting to, otherwise the ODBC connection will fail.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Annie
Courchesne, CMA
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access


Thanks for the info.  I will download the demo and do some further testing.

Annie

-----Message d'origine-----
De?: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] De la part de Stuart McLachlan
Envoy??: 27 avril 2005 21:55
??: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Objet?: RE: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access

On 27 Apr 2005 at 20:18, Liz Doering wrote:

> Annie,
>
> I have found that FileMaker Pro can export to .xls or .dbf, but it isn't
> itself a format that Access can link to.  So your import will have to be
> a two step process, one an export from within FileMaker Pro, then a
> separate import into Access.  Your best hope will be to get some
> familiarity with FileMaker Pro:  they have a 30-day free trial at
> https://www.filemaker.com/downloads/trial_download.html
>


Filemaker Pro claims to allow you to access it's data from other
applications using ODBC, but there is very little detail on their website.
I suspect the ODBC driver comes as part of their Development Package.

You could also try the Fielmaker Pro ODBC driver at
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/1602


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr  1 00:05:26 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:05:26 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Replicated .mdb and SQL Server
References: <00a801c5352b$4b24dca0$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
	<424B23B8.6080706@shaw.ca> <015201c53576$cac2bc20$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
	<424C2E02.5060008@shaw.ca> <00f501c53615$5b8b5c00$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <424CE4A6.2020606@shaw.ca>

Well there is a  for real Moose Jaw Saskatchewan , my sister in law is 
from that neck of the prairie,
Moose Pasture in Canda means something like buying the Brooklyn Bridge 
for the mining or oil industry.
Generally it is swamp with a lot of high water. But you can push a canoe 
through it.
Although there was a young woman geologist who found one of the biggest 
diamond mines
in the world under a lake up in the NWT in the mid 90's. In real moose 
pasture territory.
The diamonds from that neck of the woods have a teeny tiny laser 
engraved  polar bear
around the buckle of the stone.

I would really check on your clients budget to clarify his needs

Barbara Ryan wrote:

>Marty.... Thank you SO much for all the information.  I felt so lost!  I
>will take a look at it and discuss it with my client.
>
>BTW --- Is there really a "Moose Pasture Saskatchewan"?
>
>Barb Ryan
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replicated .mdb and SQL Server
>
>
>  
>
>>Here is a starting point on SQL Server Replication,
>>http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=169612&seqNum=3
>>You are going to have to decide whether you can get by with Merge
>>replication and MSDE
>>or buy multiple SQL licenses to handle full transactional replication. I
>>am not sure if SQL 2005 Express
>>(the latest Beta incarnation of MSDE) handles transactional replication.
>>You will have to look at the requirements for the salesman, do they need
>>access to real time data
>>and or will they have almost constant internet connections via wireless
>>like a blackberry or cell phone connections.
>>with this you might get away with running multiple Access FE's to a
>>single remote SQL server. Connection coverage areas
>>than enter the picture, if you have salesmen going out to places like
>>Moose Pasture Saskatchewan, this may present problems.
>>So you may want a pushed merged copy of  the latest data on a MSDE to
>>use when no connection is present.
>>Then there maybe a question of using VPN for connection security.
>>There is a whole series of articles on SQL replication here.
>>http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/
>>search on sql replication
>> You realize that even some experienced SQL DBA's feel unsure of
>>themselves getting into replication.
>>So you may want to go with the simple Access FE to a remote SQL Server.
>>Barbara Ryan wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Regarding "Do you plan on running replicated SQL server or updating via
>>>      
>>>
>the
>  
>
>>>internet and SQL Server?"
>>>
>>>---- I don't know!  I know very little about SQL Server.  I am open to
>>>      
>>>
>any
>  
>
>>>suggestions on how I can handle this situation (i.e.,  the Access
>>>application (front end) is linked to 2 separate back end .mdbs.  Backend
>>>      
>>>
>"A"
>  
>
>>>contains the majority of the data tables for the application; Backend "B"
>>>      
>>>
>is
>  
>
>>>a replicable database that is also used as the sole backend database for
>>>another Access application that is used by salesmen on their laptops.
>>>      
>>>
>The
>  
>
>>>front end contains some queries that currently join tables from both
>>>      
>>>
>Backend
>  
>
>>>"A" AND Backend "B".)
>>>
>>>Could the salesmen use an Access backend and somehow synchronize it with
>>>      
>>>
>a
>  
>
>>>SQL Server database?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Barb Ryan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:10 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replicated .mdb and SQL Server
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I don't know if the Access to SQL upgrade wizard handles replicated
>>>>databases but here is an unreplicator just in case
>>>>http://www.trigeminal.com/lang/1033/utility.asp?ItemID=7#7
>>>>Do you plan on running replicated SQL server or updating via the
>>>>internet and SQL Server?
>>>>
>>>>Barbara Ryan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>I currently have an Access application, split into a front end linked
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>to
>  
>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>2 separate back end .mdbs.  Backend "A" contains the majority of the data
>>>tables for the application; Backend "B" is a replicable database that is
>>>also used as the backend database for another Access application that is
>>>used by salesmen on their laptops.
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>The client is considering migrating the data for this application to
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>SQL
>  
>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>Server.  Any ideas on how to handle this?  The front end contains some
>>>queries that currently join tables from both Backend "A" AND Backend "B".
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Barb Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
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>>>>Victoria, B.C.
>>>>Canada
>>>>
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From vrm at tim-cms.com  Fri Apr  1 02:55:55 2005
From: vrm at tim-cms.com (Marcel Vreuls)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:55:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050401115842.0289a410@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <200504010356875.SM04532@ORSLAPTOP>

Dear Group,

Just a quick question. Does someone know how I can collect all rows in
vbacode where the function msgbox is stated and put this in the debug window
or just drop in a file.


Thanks in advance,

Marcel



From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Fri Apr  1 03:23:41 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:23:41 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] microsoft access questions
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225794@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi Marvin

To get sequential numbers you do need an autonumber primary key. If you try
to change the column you already have, I suspect it will fail. You probably
need to add a new primary key field and remove the number field you have
currently.

Once the underlying data is corrected the report should be OK. You may also
find that your referential integrity works once you have a unique key. It
should be noted, however, that cascade deletes are dangerous and best
avoided... Try it and get back to us.

Sorry I can't help you on the software question.

HTH

Roz



-----Original Message-----
From: marvin hunkin [mailto:marvkin at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 01 April 2005 00:52
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] microsoft access questions


hi.
doing a database assignment for my access class.
i am a blind student at my college in australia.
using ms access 2000, windows 2000, and using the jaws screen reading
software and using version 5.10 for more information about jaws for windows
go to http://www.freedomscientific.com now have had several problems. now if
any one can give me some answers on how to fix the problems i am having. 1.
one of my queeries which i built from a table and imported from excel. it
has the primary key field set to number. but instead of giving me sequential
numbers like 1.2,3, it only says 1,1,1, etc. should i try to set the data
type back to autom number? will this fix this problem? also got the same
problem with my report, it just keeps saying the id 1, for each record. it
should say id 2. id3, etc. how do i fix this? 2. when i set up my
relationships to the id fields in my tables in access , and try to tick the
referential integrity, cascade update records, update deleted records, and
try to click on create, it gives me a message saying the database could not
lock the table, or that the data fields are not the same type, as they are
all data type of number, and set to long integer. 3. i created several
reports and sub report in collumna format. how do i resize the report and
sub report using the keyboard? jaws will not let me use the mouse, or reads
very erraticly. is there any third party software that will allow me to
resize reports and sub reports in access 2000? if any one can help me, then
e-mail  me privately off list. cheers Marvin.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr  1 04:20:43 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 02:20:43 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Replicated .mdb and SQL Server
In-Reply-To: <00f501c53615$5b8b5c00$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <0IE900A13JI66S@l-daemon>

Hi Bard:

There is Moose Pasture in Saskatchewan but no Moose Pasture Saskatchewan
just as there is no Split lip Saskatchewan or Dogs Breathe Alberta.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Ryan
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replicated .mdb and SQL Server

Marty.... Thank you SO much for all the information.  I felt so lost!  I
will take a look at it and discuss it with my client.

BTW --- Is there really a "Moose Pasture Saskatchewan"?

Barb Ryan



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replicated .mdb and SQL Server


> Here is a starting point on SQL Server Replication,
> http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=169612&seqNum=3
> You are going to have to decide whether you can get by with Merge
> replication and MSDE
> or buy multiple SQL licenses to handle full transactional replication. I
> am not sure if SQL 2005 Express
> (the latest Beta incarnation of MSDE) handles transactional replication.
> You will have to look at the requirements for the salesman, do they need
> access to real time data
> and or will they have almost constant internet connections via wireless
> like a blackberry or cell phone connections.
> with this you might get away with running multiple Access FE's to a
> single remote SQL server. Connection coverage areas
> than enter the picture, if you have salesmen going out to places like
> Moose Pasture Saskatchewan, this may present problems.
> So you may want a pushed merged copy of  the latest data on a MSDE to
> use when no connection is present.
> Then there maybe a question of using VPN for connection security.
> There is a whole series of articles on SQL replication here.
> http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/
> search on sql replication
>  You realize that even some experienced SQL DBA's feel unsure of
> themselves getting into replication.
> So you may want to go with the simple Access FE to a remote SQL Server.
> Barbara Ryan wrote:
>
> >Regarding "Do you plan on running replicated SQL server or updating via
the
> >internet and SQL Server?"
> >
> >---- I don't know!  I know very little about SQL Server.  I am open to
any
> >suggestions on how I can handle this situation (i.e.,  the Access
> >application (front end) is linked to 2 separate back end .mdbs.  Backend
"A"
> >contains the majority of the data tables for the application; Backend "B"
is
> >a replicable database that is also used as the sole backend database for
> >another Access application that is used by salesmen on their laptops.
The
> >front end contains some queries that currently join tables from both
Backend
> >"A" AND Backend "B".)
> >
> >Could the salesmen use an Access backend and somehow synchronize it with
a
> >SQL Server database?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Barb Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> ><accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:10 PM
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Replicated .mdb and SQL Server
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>I don't know if the Access to SQL upgrade wizard handles replicated
> >>databases but here is an unreplicator just in case
> >>http://www.trigeminal.com/lang/1033/utility.asp?ItemID=7#7
> >>Do you plan on running replicated SQL server or updating via the
> >>internet and SQL Server?
> >>
> >>Barbara Ryan wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I currently have an Access application, split into a front end linked
to
> >>>
> >>>
> >2 separate back end .mdbs.  Backend "A" contains the majority of the data
> >tables for the application; Backend "B" is a replicable database that is
> >also used as the backend database for another Access application that is
> >used by salesmen on their laptops.
> >
> >
> >>>The client is considering migrating the data for this application to
SQL
> >>>
> >>>
> >Server.  Any ideas on how to handle this?  The front end contains some
> >queries that currently join tables from both Backend "A" AND Backend "B".
> >
> >
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Barb Ryan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>-- 
> >>Marty Connelly
> >>Victoria, B.C.
> >>Canada
> >>
> >>
> >>
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>
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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Fri Apr  1 07:36:23 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:36:23 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Re: microsoft access questions
In-Reply-To: <200504010608.j3168wi19218@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050401073136.01403b08@pop3.highstream.net>

Marvin,

1.  If it is a primary key, then it will not allow a 1 multiple 
times.  Just add a column and make it an autonumber data type, remove the 
current column, then rename the new column to be the same as the column you 
removed.

2.  Why are you trying to "trick" referential integrity?  Your 
relationships a not correct according to data type, or you would not get 
the error you are getting.  My guess is that you also do not really have 
primary keys establishes, reference number 1 above.  And you cannot cascade 
or update with out a true primary key.

3.  Shift and the arrow keys.

Robert

At 12:08 AM 4/1/2005 -0600, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:51:36 +1000
>From: "marvin hunkin" <marvkin at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [AccessD] microsoft access questions
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <BAY102-DAV15EE448AA3D6BF3D9798E3AB470 at phx.gbl>
>
>hi.
>doing a database assignment for my access class.
>i am a blind student at my college in australia.
>using ms access 2000, windows 2000, and using the jaws screen reading
>software and using version 5.10 for more information about jaws for windows
>go to http://www.freedomscientific.com
>now have had several problems.
>now if any one can give me some answers on how to fix the problems i am
>having.
>1. one of my queeries which i built from a table and imported from excel.
>it  has the primary key field set to number.
>but instead of giving me sequential numbers like 1.2,3, it only says 1,1,1,
>etc.
>should i try to set the data type back to autom number? will this fix this
>problem?
>also got the same problem with my report, it just keeps saying the id 1, for
>each record. it should say id 2. id3, etc.
>how do i fix this?
>2. when i set up my relationships to the id fields in my tables in access ,
>and try to tick the referential integrity, cascade update records, update
>deleted records, and try to click on create, it gives me a message saying
>the database could not lock the table, or that the data fields are not the
>same type, as they are all data type of number, and set to long integer.
>3. i created several reports and sub report in collumna format.
>how do i resize the report and sub report using the keyboard? jaws will not
>let me use the mouse, or reads very erraticly. is there any third party
>software that will allow me to resize reports and sub reports in access
>2000?
>if any one can help me, then e-mail  me privately off list.
>cheers Marvin.




From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Apr  1 08:14:06 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:14:06 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2EEB@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Try Rick Fisher's Find and Replace (Google will locate if for you).

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Marcel Vreuls
> Sent:	Friday, April 01, 2005 3:56 AM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	[AccessD] Collect information with vba code
> 
> Dear Group,
> 
> Just a quick question. Does someone know how I can collect all rows in
> vbacode where the function msgbox is stated and put this in the debug
> window
> or just drop in a file.
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Marcel
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  1 08:43:01 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:43:01 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
Message-ID: <s24d7a33.001@cactus.dk>

Hi all

When I try to launch Access 95 (don't ask) on Windows XP it stops at
the splash screen with an "Out of memory" error.
I guess it's the opposite, my 1 GB ram confuses Access, but how to fool
Access 95 to accept or ignore the size of memory?

I have tried creating a PIF file with Windows 95 compatibility mode but
still no go.
Any ideas?

/gustav

PS: This is no April fool ..


From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Apr  1 08:56:12 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 08:56:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
In-Reply-To: <s24d7a33.001@cactus.dk>
References: <s24d7a33.001@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <aea6c49505040106561465a525@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Gustav,

Not exactly the same error message, but it may be the same problem -
something related to HIMEM expanded memory that we used to have to
suffer with back in the olden days.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767

also see

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301911

Good luck with it!

Gary


On Apr 1, 2005 8:43 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> When I try to launch Access 95 (don't ask) on Windows XP it stops at
> the splash screen with an "Out of memory" error.
> I guess it's the opposite, my 1 GB ram confuses Access, but how to fool
> Access 95 to accept or ignore the size of memory?
> 
> I have tried creating a PIF file with Windows 95 compatibility mode but
> still no go.
> Any ideas?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> PS: This is no April fool ..
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From pharold at proftesting.com  Fri Apr  1 09:03:28 2005
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:03:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
In-Reply-To: <s24d7a33.001@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000501c536cb$f68772a0$192da8c0@D58BT131Perry>

Gustav

Link from MS

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?id=161255

Talks about the problem but doesn't look like either solution would help in
your case but worth a try.

Perry

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:43 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory


Hi all

When I try to launch Access 95 (don't ask) on Windows XP it stops at the
splash screen with an "Out of memory" error. I guess it's the opposite, my 1
GB ram confuses Access, but how to fool Access 95 to accept or ignore the
size of memory?

I have tried creating a PIF file with Windows 95 compatibility mode but
still no go. Any ideas?

/gustav

PS: This is no April fool ..
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Apr  1 09:00:40 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:00:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Reminder - Friday Joke Day
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43013BD1F3@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

April Fool's Day and No Jokes?


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  1 09:21:07 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:21:07 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
Message-ID: <s24d830f.003@cactus.dk>

Hi Perry

Thanks, but Jet SP3 is installed. It worked for Access 97 but not for
A95.

/gustav

>>> pharold at proftesting.com 04/01 5:03 pm >>>
Gustav

Link from MS

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?id=161255 

Talks about the problem but doesn't look like either solution would
help in
your case but worth a try.

Perry

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:43 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory


Hi all

When I try to launch Access 95 (don't ask) on Windows XP it stops at
the
splash screen with an "Out of memory" error. I guess it's the opposite,
my 1
GB ram confuses Access, but how to fool Access 95 to accept or ignore
the
size of memory?

I have tried creating a PIF file with Windows 95 compatibility mode
but
still no go. Any ideas?

/gustav

PS: This is no April fool ..



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Apr  1 09:35:36 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:35:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Reminder - Friday Joke Day
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08657DD43B@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I found Google's contribution pretty funny:
http://www.google.com/googlegulp/ 


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Karen
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April Fool's Day and No Jokes?

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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  1 09:44:37 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 07:44:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Zipping files in "subfolders" through Access
Message-ID: <20050401154437.42935.qmail@web20425.mail.yahoo.com>

I've used the following to zip files from a particualar location. It works fine. Now I want to use it on a folder where all the files are in subfolders. I can't seem to tweek it. Has anyone done this before?

Function ZipIt()
 
Dim i As Integer
Dim strFileLoc As String
strFileLoc = "C:\Tables\"
Dim strAppName As String
Dim strZipFile As String
Dim strTargetFiles(1500) As String
Dim strDirPath As String
Dim NewZip As String
 
strDirPath = Dir(strFileLoc & "*.*")
 
Do While strDirPath <> ""
strTargetFiles(i) = strDirPath
strDirPath = Dir
i = i + 1
Loop
 
NewZip = "C:\BackUp\Tables\" & Format(Now(), "yyyy-mm-dd-hh-mm") & "-Tables.zip"
 
'Location of zip executable
strAppName = "C:\Program Files\WinZip\WINZIP32.EXE"
'
Name of new zipfile.
strZipFile = NewZip
 
'Zipping proceess
Call Shell(strAppName & " -A " & """" & strZipFile & """" & " " & """" & strFileLoc & strTargetFiles(i) & """", 1)




May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  1 10:02:12 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:02:12 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
Message-ID: <s24d8cb8.004@cactus.dk>

Hi Garry

Thanks, but no luck. The compatibility mode settings don't seem to make
any difference.

/gustav

>>> garykjos at gmail.com 04/01 4:56 pm >>>
Hi Gustav,

Not exactly the same error message, but it may be the same problem -
something related to HIMEM expanded memory that we used to have to
suffer with back in the olden days.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767 

also see

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301911 

Good luck with it!

Gary


On Apr 1, 2005 8:43 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> When I try to launch Access 95 (don't ask) on Windows XP it stops at
> the splash screen with an "Out of memory" error.
> I guess it's the opposite, my 1 GB ram confuses Access, but how to
fool
> Access 95 to accept or ignore the size of memory?
> 
> I have tried creating a PIF file with Windows 95 compatibility mode
but
> still no go.
> Any ideas?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> PS: This is no April fool ..



From James at fcidms.com  Fri Apr  1 10:13:30 2005
From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 11:13:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Reminder - Friday Joke Day
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08657DD43B@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <0IE900648ZQL04@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

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did you get such a great bike?"
 
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my own business when a beautiful woman rode up on this bike. She threw the
bike to the ground, took off all her clothes and said, "Take what you want."

The other engineer nodded approvingly, "Good choice; the clothes  probably
wouldn't have fit." 

**********************************
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**********************************
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empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

************************************
Comprehending Engineers - Take Three
************************************
A pastor, a doctor and an engineer were waiting one morning for a
particularly slow group of golfers. The engineer fumed, "What's with these
guys? We must have been waiting for 15 minutes!" The doctor chimed in, "I
don't know, but I've never seen such ineptitude! "The pastor said, "Hey,
here comes the greenskeeper. Let's have a word with him."
 
[dramatic pause] 
"Hi George. Say, what's with that group ahead of us? They're rather slow,
aren't they?" The greenskeeper replied, "Oh, yes, that's a group of blind
firefighters. They lost their sight saving our clubhouse from a fire last
year, so we always let them play for free anytime."

The group was silent for a moment.

The pastor said, "That's so sad. I think I will say a special prayer for
them tonight."The doctor said, "Good idea. And I'm going to contact my
ophthalmologist buddy and see if there's anything he can do for them." The
engineer said, "Why can't these guys play at night?" 
       
 ***********************************
Comprehending Engineers - Take Four
***********************************
There was an engineer who had an exceptional gift for fixing all things
mechanical. After serving his company loyally for over 30 years, he
happily retired.  
 
Several years later the company contacted him regarding a seemingly
impossible problem they were having with one of their multimillion dollar
machines. They had tried everything and everyone else to get the machine to
work but to no avail. In desperation, they called on the retired engineer
who had solved so many of their problems in the past.

The engineer reluctantly took the challenge. He spent a day studying the
huge machine. At the end of the day, he marked a small "x" in chalk on a
particular component of the machine and stated, "This where your problem
is." The part was replaced and the machine worked perfectly again.

The company received a bill for $50,000 from the engineer for his service.
 They demanded an itemized accounting of his charges.

The engineer responded briefly: One chalk mark $ 1.  Knowing where to put it
$49,999 .  It was paid in full and the engineer retired again in peace. 

 ***********************************
 Comprehending Engineers - Take Five
 ***********************************
What is the difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil  Engineers?

Mechanical Engineers build weapons, Civil Engineers build targets. 

**********************************
Comprehending Engineers - Take Six
**********************************
The graduate with a Science degree asks, "Why does it work?" The graduate
with an Engineering degree asks, "How does it work?"

The graduate with an Accounting degree asks, "How much will it cost?" The
graduate with a Liberal Arts degree asks, "Do you want fries with that?"

************************************
 Comprehending Engineers - Take Seven
************************************
Three engineering students were gathered together discussing the possible
designers of the human body. One said,  "It was a mechanical engineer. Just
look at all the joints."
 
Another said, "No, it was an electrical engineer. The nervous system has
many thousands of electrical connections."

The last said, "Actually it was a civil engineer. Who else would run a
toxic waste pipeline through a recreational area?"
 
 ************************************
Comprehending Engineers - Take Eight
 ************************************
"Normal people ... believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Engineers
believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet."
----- Scott Adams, The Dilbert Principle 
  
***********************************
Comprehending Engineers - Take Nine
 ***********************************
An architect, an artist and an engineer were discussing whether it was
better to spend time with the wife or a mistress.
 
The architect said he enjoyed time with his wife, building a solid
foundation for an enduring relationship.

 The artist said he enjoyed time with his mistress, because of the passion
and mystery he found there.

The engineer said, "I like both."
 
 "Both?"  
  
 Engineer: "Yeah. If you have a wife and a mistress, they will each assume
you are spending time with the other woman, and you can go to the lab and
get some work done.
 
**********************************
Comprehending Engineers - Take Ten
********************************
An engineer was crossing a road one day when a frog called out to him  and
said, "If you kiss me, I'll turn into a beautiful princess."

He bent over, picked up the frog and put it in his pocket.
The frog spoke up again and said, "If you kiss me and turn me back into a
beautiful princess, I will stay with you for one week."
 
The engineer took the frog out of his pocket, smiled at it and returned it
to the pocket.  

The frog then cried out, "If you kiss me and turn me back into a princess,
I'll stay with you and do ANYTHING you want."

Again the engineer took the frog out, smiled at it and put it back into his
pocket.  

Finally, the frog asked, "What is the matter? I've told you I'm a beautiful
princess, that I'll stay with you for a week and do anything  you want. Why
won't you kiss me?"
 
The engineer said, "Look I'm an engineer. I don't have time for a
girlfriend, but a talking frog, now that's cool."

  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:01 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Reminder - Friday Joke Day

April Fool's Day and No Jokes?




From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Apr  1 10:13:48 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:13:48 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
In-Reply-To: <s24d8cb8.004@cactus.dk>
References: <s24d8cb8.004@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950504010813379b6152@mail.gmail.com>

Might be drastic, but if you have more than one Memory module
comprising your 1GB ram, perhaps you could temporarily remove one and
get it under that magic number just to see if that is what is causing
the issue?  Or try it on another machine with less RAM than that if
you have one available?

On Apr 1, 2005 10:02 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Garry
> 
> Thanks, but no luck. The compatibility mode settings don't seem to make
> any difference.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> garykjos at gmail.com 04/01 4:56 pm >>>
> Hi Gustav,
> 
> Not exactly the same error message, but it may be the same problem -
> something related to HIMEM expanded memory that we used to have to
> suffer with back in the olden days.
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767
> 
> also see
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301911
> 
> Good luck with it!
> 
> Gary
> 
> On Apr 1, 2005 8:43 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > When I try to launch Access 95 (don't ask) on Windows XP it stops at
> > the splash screen with an "Out of memory" error.
> > I guess it's the opposite, my 1 GB ram confuses Access, but how to
> fool
> > Access 95 to accept or ignore the size of memory?
> >
> > I have tried creating a PIF file with Windows 95 compatibility mode
> but
> > still no go.
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> > PS: This is no April fool ..
> 
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From jim.moss at jlmoss.net  Fri Apr  1 10:30:21 2005
From: jim.moss at jlmoss.net (Jim Moss)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:30:21 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
Message-ID: <50286.205.241.239.167.1112373021.squirrel@205.241.239.167>

Gustav,


This probably isn't the problem but what version of Jet is on the system?
If < 3.51 then an upgrade to a later rev of Jet might fix the problem.


Jim




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Apr  1 10:36:53 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:36:53 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Reminder - Friday Joke Day
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43013BD1F3@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <000a01c536d9$03cdf6c0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Found this site the other day. It's very useful. If you've got a few minutes
it can find old pictures of you from school for free. The link is

http://www.worldschoolphotographs.com

I do hope you enjoy it. For me it was really strange to see myself at that
age. I think I've changed a lot.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 
 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Nicholson, Karen
> Sent: 01 April 2005 16:01
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Reminder - Friday Joke Day
> 
> 
> April Fool's Day and No Jokes?
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> 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  1 10:47:30 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 18:47:30 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
Message-ID: <s24d974c.005@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

That could be it, but the latest Jet 3.x SP3 is installed.

/gustav

>>> jim.moss at jlmoss.net 04/01 6:30 pm >>>
Gustav,


This probably isn't the problem but what version of Jet is on the
system?
If < 3.51 then an upgrade to a later rev of Jet might fix the problem.


Jim


From mastercafe at ctv.es  Fri Apr  1 11:50:50 2005
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 19:50:50 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value
In-Reply-To: <20050401154437.42935.qmail@web20425.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001001c536e3$5838f110$0500a8c0@masterserv>

We are trying to take the value from a field in a form during the writting
from the user.
If we take me.StrField we obtain the last value until go to the next field.

It's possible take the value? 

Thanks

Juan

 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Apr  1 11:59:18 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 18:59:18 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value
In-Reply-To: <001001c536e3$5838f110$0500a8c0@masterserv>
Message-ID: <000401c536e4$86fdf1c0$b274d0d5@minster33c3r25>

Juan
It depends on the Event you put the code in. If you put your code in the
AfterUpdate event of the field, for example, you will get the new value.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> MastercafeCTV
> Sent: 01 April 2005 18:51
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value
> 
> 
> We are trying to take the value from a field in a form during 
> the writting from the user. If we take me.StrField we obtain 
> the last value until go to the next field.
> 
> It's possible take the value? 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Juan
> 
>  
> ===========================================
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr  1 11:58:57 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 12:58:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value
In-Reply-To: <001001c536e3$5838f110$0500a8c0@masterserv>
Message-ID: <20050401175854.ENBZ2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm not sure what you're asking for, but here goes. 

1. If you press Ctrl+;, Access will automatically enter the value in the
corresponding field from the last record. 

2. You can assign the current entry as the field's default value -- it will
repeat until you overwrite the value with a new one and then that will
become the default value. If you're looking for this one, I can supply the
code. 

Susan H. 

We are trying to take the value from a field in a form during the writting
from the user.
If we take me.StrField we obtain the last value until go to the next field.

It's possible take the value? 




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  1 12:11:15 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 20:11:15 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value
Message-ID: <s24daaf1.006@cactus.dk>

Hi Juan

Try with

  strTake = Me!StrField.Text

This will work while that textbox has the focus.

/gustav

>>> mastercafe at ctv.es 04/01 7:50 pm >>>
We are trying to take the value from a field in a form during the
writting
from the user.
If we take me.StrField we obtain the last value until go to the next
field.

It's possible take the value? 



From boogieloogie at gmail.com  Fri Apr  1 12:14:39 2005
From: boogieloogie at gmail.com (Boogie Loogie)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:14:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
Message-ID: <3bf43ee90504011014432e4885@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I have been using gmail (www.gmail.com) for awhile now and I must
admit that the service is excellent. They have upped the free account
from 1 gig of storage to 2 gig...WOW.

For using this mailing list I have yet to find something better for
organinzing the messages. If any of you want a freebie account I will
send you an invite. I have 49 left.

email me at boogieloogie at gmail.com

Later

BL


From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Fri Apr  1 12:24:05 2005
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:24:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE03ABFE@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

Reason why I avoided GMAIL..

http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Boogie Loogie
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:15 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.


Hi

I have been using gmail (www.gmail.com) for awhile now and I must admit
that the service is excellent. They have upped the free account from 1
gig of storage to 2 gig...WOW.

For using this mailing list I have yet to find something better for
organinzing the messages. If any of you want a freebie account I will
send you an invite. I have 49 left.

email me at boogieloogie at gmail.com

Later

BL
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Apr  1 12:27:31 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:27:31 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687394D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I have all but one of my invites left, so ask if you want one.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Boogie Loogie [mailto:boogieloogie at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:15 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.


Hi

I have been using gmail (www.gmail.com) for awhile now and I must admit
that the service is excellent. They have upped the free account from 1
gig of storage to 2 gig...WOW.

For using this mailing list I have yet to find something better for
organinzing the messages. If any of you want a freebie account I will
send you an invite. I have 49 left.

email me at boogieloogie at gmail.com

Later

BL
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Apr  1 12:40:07 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 10:40:07 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value
In-Reply-To: <001001c536e3$5838f110$0500a8c0@masterserv>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKCECAFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

.Text

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MastercafeCTV
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value


We are trying to take the value from a field in a form during the writting
from the user.
If we take me.StrField we obtain the last value until go to the next field.

It's possible take the value?

Thanks

Juan


===========================================
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr  1 15:20:59 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:20:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory
In-Reply-To: <s24d7a33.001@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <0IEA00651E15QS@l-daemon>

Hi Gustav:

I once tried to run Access 95 on my Windows Server 2003, again don't ask and
everything loaded for a while until all CPU and memory resources were
consumed and then the server crashed. It is more dangerous than many viruses
or Trojans.

I think Access just does not understand the current system capacities. Any
thing larger than 2 GB and down it goes.

My thought on the subject
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 6:43 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access95, Windows XP, out of memory

Hi all

When I try to launch Access 95 (don't ask) on Windows XP it stops at
the splash screen with an "Out of memory" error.
I guess it's the opposite, my 1 GB ram confuses Access, but how to fool
Access 95 to accept or ignore the size of memory?

I have tried creating a PIF file with Windows 95 compatibility mode but
still no go.
Any ideas?

/gustav

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Apr  1 15:39:18 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:39:18 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873950@infoserver01.infostat.local>

So delete your old gmail.  That's what I do.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lavsa, Rich [mailto:Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.


Reason why I avoided GMAIL..

http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Boogie Loogie
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:15 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.


Hi

I have been using gmail (www.gmail.com) for awhile now and I must admit
that the service is excellent. They have upped the free account from 1
gig of storage to 2 gig...WOW.

For using this mailing list I have yet to find something better for
organinzing the messages. If any of you want a freebie account I will
send you an invite. I have 49 left.

email me at boogieloogie at gmail.com

Later

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Apr  1 15:53:04 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:53:04 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2EF9@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Did you miss these comments on the site...

"Google admits that even deleted messages will remain on their system, and
may also be accessible internally at Google, for an indefinite period of
time."

"Google has never been known to delete any of the data they've collected,
since day one."

There's no such thing as a free lunch, especially where marketing people are
involved. :-)

Lambert



> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> Sent:	Friday, April 01, 2005 4:39 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> 
> So delete your old gmail.  That's what I do.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lavsa, Rich [mailto:Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com] 
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:24 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> 
> 
> Reason why I avoided GMAIL..
> 
> http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Boogie Loogie
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:15 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> I have been using gmail (www.gmail.com) for awhile now and I must admit
> that the service is excellent. They have upped the free account from 1
> gig of storage to 2 gig...WOW.
> 
> For using this mailing list I have yet to find something better for
> organinzing the messages. If any of you want a freebie account I will
> send you an invite. I have 49 left.
> 
> email me at boogieloogie at gmail.com
> 
> Later
> 
> BL
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Apr  1 16:28:02 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:28:02 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2EF9@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
References: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2EF9@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a0504011428133dc47e@mail.gmail.com>

>From the Privacy Policy at Gmail:

 
>    - We collect limited account information and store and maintain your 
>    account and email messages on our secure servers. 
>    - We will never rent, sell or share information that personally 
>    identifies you for marketing purposes without your express permission. 
>    - We serve highly relevant ads and other information as part of the 
>    service using our unique content-targeting technology. No human reads your 
>    email to target ads or related information to you without your consent. 
>    - You can update your account information and preferences at any 
>    time. 
> 
>  
The portion that you are worried about from that paranoid site is derived 
info from this statment on the policy 

Because we keep back-up copies of data for the purposes of recovery from 
> errors or system failure, residual copies of email may remain on our systems 
> for some time, even after you have deleted messages from your mailbox or 
> after the termination of your account. Google employees do not access the 
> content of any mailboxes unless you specifically request them to do so (for 
> example, if you are having technical difficulties accessing your account) or 
> if required by law, to maintain our system, or to protect Google or the 
> public.

this statment makes a lot of sense because if they delete your account but 
your data is on backups, it makes sense they won't go into the backups and 
delete your email there. but it also gives you a saftey to be able to go 
back and access an email that you thought might have been lost for ever.


On Apr 1, 2005 1:53 PM, Heenan, Lambert <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com> wrote:
> 
> Did you miss these comments on the site...
> 
> "Google admits that even deleted messages will remain on their system, and
> may also be accessible internally at Google, for an indefinite period of
> time."
> 
> "Google has never been known to delete any of the data they've collected,
> since day one."
> 
> There's no such thing as a free lunch, especially where marketing people 
> are
> involved. :-)
> 
> Lambert
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 4:39 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> >
> > So delete your old gmail. That's what I do.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lavsa, Rich [mailto:Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:24 AM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> >
> >
> > Reason why I avoided GMAIL..
> >
> > http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Boogie Loogie
> > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:15 PM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I have been using gmail (www.gmail.com <http://www.gmail.com>) for 
> awhile now and I must admit
> > that the service is excellent. They have upped the free account from 1
> > gig of storage to 2 gig...WOW.
> >
> > For using this mailing list I have yet to find something better for
> > organinzing the messages. If any of you want a freebie account I will
> > send you an invite. I have 49 left.
> >
> > email me at boogieloogie at gmail.com
> >
> > Later
> >
> > BL
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Apr  1 17:26:34 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 23:26:34 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: microsoft access questions
Message-ID: <BAY103-F6F712FC4BEF4AAEDE044CD2380@phx.gbl>

Marvin,

Last year I rolled out a database in Texas.  When I got to the last machine, 
I was introduced to JAWS.  I spent the next 2 days and nights modifying 
every piece of functionality that required the mouse.  It was very 
challenging with the 2 day deadline, but I learned a lot of lessons on that 
project.

I believe Robert and Roz answered you questions.  I just wanted to comment 
on the JAWS program.  I've never developed a db using JAWS, just developed 
one for someone using JAWS.  If you get caught up in any 
functionality/usability issues with the forms of your app, I'd be happy to 
share some of the tricks I learned.

Good luck with your database assignment.

Mark A. Matte



>From: "Robert L. Stewart" <rl_stewart at highstream.net>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: marvkin at hotmail.com
>CC: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Re: microsoft access questions
>Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 07:36:23 -0600
>
>Marvin,
>
>1.  If it is a primary key, then it will not allow a 1 multiple times.  
>Just add a column and make it an autonumber data type, remove the current 
>column, then rename the new column to be the same as the column you 
>removed.
>
>2.  Why are you trying to "trick" referential integrity?  Your 
>relationships a not correct according to data type, or you would not get 
>the error you are getting.  My guess is that you also do not really have 
>primary keys establishes, reference number 1 above.  And you cannot cascade 
>or update with out a true primary key.
>
>3.  Shift and the arrow keys.
>
>Robert
>
>At 12:08 AM 4/1/2005 -0600, you wrote:
>>Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:51:36 +1000
>>From: "marvin hunkin" <marvkin at hotmail.com>
>>Subject: [AccessD] microsoft access questions
>>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Message-ID: <BAY102-DAV15EE448AA3D6BF3D9798E3AB470 at phx.gbl>
>>
>>hi.
>>doing a database assignment for my access class.
>>i am a blind student at my college in australia.
>>using ms access 2000, windows 2000, and using the jaws screen reading
>>software and using version 5.10 for more information about jaws for 
>>windows
>>go to http://www.freedomscientific.com
>>now have had several problems.
>>now if any one can give me some answers on how to fix the problems i am
>>having.
>>1. one of my queeries which i built from a table and imported from excel.
>>it  has the primary key field set to number.
>>but instead of giving me sequential numbers like 1.2,3, it only says 
>>1,1,1,
>>etc.
>>should i try to set the data type back to autom number? will this fix this
>>problem?
>>also got the same problem with my report, it just keeps saying the id 1, 
>>for
>>each record. it should say id 2. id3, etc.
>>how do i fix this?
>>2. when i set up my relationships to the id fields in my tables in access 
>>,
>>and try to tick the referential integrity, cascade update records, update
>>deleted records, and try to click on create, it gives me a message saying
>>the database could not lock the table, or that the data fields are not the
>>same type, as they are all data type of number, and set to long integer.
>>3. i created several reports and sub report in collumna format.
>>how do i resize the report and sub report using the keyboard? jaws will 
>>not
>>let me use the mouse, or reads very erraticly. is there any third party
>>software that will allow me to resize reports and sub reports in access
>>2000?
>>if any one can help me, then e-mail  me privately off list.
>>cheers Marvin.
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr  1 17:59:58 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 09:59:58 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Zipping files in "subfolders" through Access
In-Reply-To: <20050401154437.42935.qmail@web20425.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <424E6D1E.12837.3241CFB4@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 1 Apr 2005 at 7:44, Lonnie Johnson wrote:

> I've used the following to zip files from a particualar location. It
> works fine. Now I want to use it on a folder where all the files are in
> subfolders.
...
>  
> 'Zipping proceess
> Call Shell(strAppName & " -A " & """" & strZipFile & """" & " " & """" & strFileLoc & strTargetFiles(i) & """", 1)

You use "-r"

-r	Recurse into subfolders (include subfolders).  This option requires the -p or -P option.

-p|P	Store folder names.  A lower case p stores only the names of folders 
recursed (subfolders included) via the -r option, while an upper case P 
stores all folder information specified on the command line.  



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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  1 23:05:17 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 21:05:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Zipping files in "subfolders" through Access
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050402050517.43254.qmail@web20428.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks Stuart,
 
The Shell statement I used below was borrowed. Where do I put the -r or p?

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
On 1 Apr 2005 at 7:44, Lonnie Johnson wrote:

> I've used the following to zip files from a particualar location. It
> works fine. Now I want to use it on a folder where all the files are in
> subfolders.
...
> 
> 'Zipping proceess
> Call Shell(strAppName & " -A " & """" & strZipFile & """" & " " & """" & strFileLoc & strTargetFiles(i) & """", 1)

You use "-r"

-r Recurse into subfolders (include subfolders). This option requires the -p or -P option.

-p|P Store folder names. A lower case p stores only the names of folders 
recursed (subfolders included) via the -r option, while an upper case P 
stores all folder information specified on the command line. 



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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Apr  2 02:39:31 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 18:39:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Zipping files in "subfolders" through Access
In-Reply-To: <20050402050517.43254.qmail@web20428.mail.yahoo.com>
References: 6667
Message-ID: <424EE6E3.30752.478BEB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 1 Apr 2005 at 21:05, Lonnie Johnson wrote:

> Thanks Stuart,
>  
> The Shell statement I used below was borrowed. Where do I put the -r or p?
> 

You need the -r AND either -p or -P

You put all options before the file name so:

Call Shell(strAppName & " -A -r -P " & """" & strZipFile & """" & " " & 
"""" & strFileLoc & strTargetFiles(i) & """", 1)

or 

Call Shell(strAppName & " -A -r -p " & """" & strZipFile & """" & " " & 
"""" & strFileLoc & strTargetFiles(i) & """", 1)

The first one will store the full paths to all the files.
The second one will just store relative paths based on strFileLoc.




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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Sat Apr  2 06:07:18 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 04:07:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Zipping files in "subfolders" through Access
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050402120718.75966.qmail@web20421.mail.yahoo.com>

Thank you ever so much Mr McLachlan. I have never had much use of the command line switches to that degree before. You help has been exactly what I have been looking for. Is there a list or reference source that explains these switches, how to use them and the positions they play in the command line.
 
Again thank you very much. I applaud you. 

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
On 1 Apr 2005 at 21:05, Lonnie Johnson wrote:

> Thanks Stuart,
> 
> The Shell statement I used below was borrowed. Where do I put the -r or p?
> 

You need the -r AND either -p or -P

You put all options before the file name so:

Call Shell(strAppName & " -A -r -P " & """" & strZipFile & """" & " " & 
"""" & strFileLoc & strTargetFiles(i) & """", 1)

or 

Call Shell(strAppName & " -A -r -p " & """" & strZipFile & """" & " " & 
"""" & strFileLoc & strTargetFiles(i) & """", 1)

The first one will store the full paths to all the files.
The second one will just store relative paths based on strFileLoc.




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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Apr  2 06:49:31 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:49:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Zipping files in "subfolders" through Access
In-Reply-To: <20050402120718.75966.qmail@web20421.mail.yahoo.com>
References: 6667
Message-ID: <424F217B.9796.12C6FFC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 2 Apr 2005 at 4:07, Lonnie Johnson wrote:

> Thank you ever so much Mr McLachlan. I have never had much use of the command line switches to
> that degree before. You help has been exactly what I have been looking for. Is there a list or
> reference source that explains these switches, how to use them and the positions they play in
> the command line.

Look for a help file called WZCLINE.HLP in your Winzip directory.

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From boogieloogie at gmail.com  Sat Apr  2 10:54:37 2005
From: boogieloogie at gmail.com (Boogie Loogie)
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 12:54:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
In-Reply-To: <b874372a0504011428133dc47e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2EF9@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
	<b874372a0504011428133dc47e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3bf43ee9050402085471881d6c@mail.gmail.com>

paranois will self-destroy ya

On Apr 1, 2005 6:28 PM, Francisco Tapia <fhtapia at gmail.com> wrote:
> >From the Privacy Policy at Gmail:
> 
> >    - We collect limited account information and store and maintain your
> >    account and email messages on our secure servers.
> >    - We will never rent, sell or share information that personally
> >    identifies you for marketing purposes without your express permission.
> >    - We serve highly relevant ads and other information as part of the
> >    service using our unique content-targeting technology. No human reads your
> >    email to target ads or related information to you without your consent.
> >    - You can update your account information and preferences at any
> >    time.
> >
> >
> The portion that you are worried about from that paranoid site is derived
> info from this statment on the policy
> 
> Because we keep back-up copies of data for the purposes of recovery from
> > errors or system failure, residual copies of email may remain on our systems
> > for some time, even after you have deleted messages from your mailbox or
> > after the termination of your account. Google employees do not access the
> > content of any mailboxes unless you specifically request them to do so (for
> > example, if you are having technical difficulties accessing your account) or
> > if required by law, to maintain our system, or to protect Google or the
> > public.
> 
> this statment makes a lot of sense because if they delete your account but
> your data is on backups, it makes sense they won't go into the backups and
> delete your email there. but it also gives you a saftey to be able to go
> back and access an email that you thought might have been lost for ever.
> 
> 
> On Apr 1, 2005 1:53 PM, Heenan, Lambert <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com> wrote:
> >
> > Did you miss these comments on the site...
> >
> > "Google admits that even deleted messages will remain on their system, and
> > may also be accessible internally at Google, for an indefinite period of
> > time."
> >
> > "Google has never been known to delete any of the data they've collected,
> > since day one."
> >
> > There's no such thing as a free lunch, especially where marketing people
> > are
> > involved. :-)
> >
> > Lambert
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 4:39 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> > >
> > > So delete your old gmail. That's what I do.
> > >
> > > Charlotte Foust
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Lavsa, Rich [mailto:Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:24 AM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> > >
> > >
> > > Reason why I avoided GMAIL..
> > >
> > > http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Boogie Loogie
> > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:15 PM
> > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: [AccessD] OT: gmail by google turns 1 today.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I have been using gmail (www.gmail.com <http://www.gmail.com>) for
> > awhile now and I must admit
> > > that the service is excellent. They have upped the free account from 1
> > > gig of storage to 2 gig...WOW.
> > >
> > > For using this mailing list I have yet to find something better for
> > > organinzing the messages. If any of you want a freebie account I will
> > > send you an invite. I have 49 left.
> > >
> > > email me at boogieloogie at gmail.com
> > >
> > > Later
> > >
> > > BL
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From mastercafe at ctv.es  Sat Apr  2 16:30:50 2005
From: mastercafe at ctv.es (MastercafeCTV)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 00:30:50 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKCECAFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <000001c537d3$9fe63ae0$0500a8c0@masterserv>

Thats exact... This is that i was looking for.
We wanted refresh a subform while you are typing on the main form field.
Put this on KEYPRESS event
Campo is a Combo with all names of fields and its description. The answer is
very good and fine.

Dim TMPBuscar as string
TMPBuscar = Me.buscar.Text
Me.fl_ClientesSubform.Form.RecordSource = "Select * from [BASE CLIENTES]
where [" & campo.Column(1) & "] like '" & TMPBuscar & "'"
Me.fl_ClientesSubform.Requery

Thanks


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
dmcafee at pacbell.net
Sent: viernes, 01 de abril de 2005 20:40
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Taking the value


.Text

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MastercafeCTV
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Taking the value


We are trying to take the value from a field in a form during the writting
from the user. If we take me.StrField we obtain the last value until go to
the next field.

It's possible take the value?

Thanks

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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Sat Apr  2 18:42:40 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 16:42:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Zipping files in "subfolders" through Access
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050403004240.10478.qmail@web20428.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks I have it and it is working fine. Thanks again.

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:On 2 Apr 2005 at 4:07, Lonnie Johnson wrote:

> Thank you ever so much Mr McLachlan. I have never had much use of the command line switches to
> that degree before. You help has been exactly what I have been looking for. Is there a list or
> reference source that explains these switches, how to use them and the positions they play in
> the command line.

Look for a help file called WZCLINE.HLP in your Winzip directory.

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Apr  3 17:04:27 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 15:04:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Microsoft access questions
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F6F712FC4BEF4AAEDE044CD2380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200504032204.j33M4Ji07313@databaseadvisors.com>

Mark,

What is Jaws

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:27 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: microsoft access questions

Marvin,

Last year I rolled out a database in Texas.  When I got to the last machine,

I was introduced to JAWS ?



From erbachs at gmail.com  Sun Apr  3 19:26:07 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:26:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Group,

A friend who's pretty sharp on computers (PHP development and a fair
amount of VB.NET) asked me to help him figure out a way to handle his
home inventory. He has LPs, Books, video cassettes, etc., half a dozen
different categories in all of things he wants to record in tables. So
far he's made an individual collection table for each type of item:
Books, LPs, Videos, etc.

His question was how to make a master table that had common
information in it -- purchase date, purchase price, location in house,
and category. He was also trying to figure out a way to have a big
master form, perhaps with a tab object, and subforms for all the
tables containing his collections.

I admit that I was a bit stumped. It's easy enough to determine that
the master table should have, say, an AutoNumber key field for each
item in his entire home inventory and that the individual item tables
would link to the master through a foreign key or simply with a Long
Integer field containing the Master key. But there would be a
one-to-one link between the master and the collection tables.

But what he'd like to do is see multiple rows for each of his
collection items at the same time. This implies that the subforms
would NOT be linked to the master. If they WERE linked to the master,
then only ONE item from ONE collection table would show up.

Have you lot ever tried something like this? His notion is that if the
Master table contains the location for each item then he can easily
query the master to find all the items in, say, the upstairs closet.
But then creating a report or a query might be a struggle since he
could conceivably have items from six different collections in that
closet...or only four of the collections.

I think you get the drift. Each collection has enough unique
information that keeping the items in separate tables makes sense, but
pulling all the information together to make an inventory valuation
might be a chore. Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr  3 21:37:25 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:37:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <015201c538bf$3cf22ba0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Steve:

Not really responsive but I have to question why he wants to do this at all? 
Unless it's just a busman's holiday, why not just create a list of his 
albums, a list of his books, a list of his cassettes in a word doc print it 
out and be done.  Then he'd know everything he needs by looking at the 
lists, no?

Rocky


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 5:26 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem


> Dear Group,
>
> A friend who's pretty sharp on computers (PHP development and a fair
> amount of VB.NET) asked me to help him figure out a way to handle his
> home inventory. He has LPs, Books, video cassettes, etc., half a dozen
> different categories in all of things he wants to record in tables. So
> far he's made an individual collection table for each type of item:
> Books, LPs, Videos, etc.
>
> His question was how to make a master table that had common
> information in it -- purchase date, purchase price, location in house,
> and category. He was also trying to figure out a way to have a big
> master form, perhaps with a tab object, and subforms for all the
> tables containing his collections.
>
> I admit that I was a bit stumped. It's easy enough to determine that
> the master table should have, say, an AutoNumber key field for each
> item in his entire home inventory and that the individual item tables
> would link to the master through a foreign key or simply with a Long
> Integer field containing the Master key. But there would be a
> one-to-one link between the master and the collection tables.
>
> But what he'd like to do is see multiple rows for each of his
> collection items at the same time. This implies that the subforms
> would NOT be linked to the master. If they WERE linked to the master,
> then only ONE item from ONE collection table would show up.
>
> Have you lot ever tried something like this? His notion is that if the
> Master table contains the location for each item then he can easily
> query the master to find all the items in, say, the upstairs closet.
> But then creating a report or a query might be a struggle since he
> could conceivably have items from six different collections in that
> closet...or only four of the collections.
>
> I think you get the drift. Each collection has enough unique
> information that keeping the items in separate tables makes sense, but
> pulling all the information together to make an inventory valuation
> might be a chore. Any ideas?
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Erbach
> Scientific Marketing
> Neenah, WI
> www.swerbach.com
> Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Sun Apr  3 21:50:01 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:50:01 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050404144510.03439a30@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

AXP

One of my users has discovered that by pressing Ctrl-A this will select all 
records in a form.  Then he can copy, open up Excel and paste all the 
records into a spreadsheet.  However, because of the sensitive nature of 
the data, Management do not want the full database to be available this way.

I have found out how to disable Ctrl-A using autokeys so that all records 
cannot be selected.  I have also removed from my custom menu the option to 
Select all records.

There is still the problem of manually selecting all records with the 
mouse, then copying them to the clipboard.  I don't want to disable Ctrl-C 
because it is useful elsewhere in the programme.  Is there a way to check 
if records are selected (any number of records - not just all of them)?  If 
I could find out that, then if records were selected I could cancel out the 
copy, but if only text was selected I could alow the copy to proceed.

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348 



From JHewson at karta.com  Sun Apr  3 21:56:31 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 21:56:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02859D96@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Steve,
What you need are junction tables.  Tables that hold PKs from different tables.
I've done this for several different databases.
I'm currently working on one for pastoral musicians to keep track of their music.
Songs, composers (with multiple songs), who arranged the piece (could be composer or someone else), instruments (single or multiple), copyright holders and addresses.  A song could be sheet, book, cd, octavo or combination.  A song could be used for one or more liturgical season (e.g. Tridiuum and Easter).  I have seen two songs with the same title, different composers.  What is the vocal arrangement (choir, duet, quartet, etc.) if any.
 
In your sample below, you had a closet with several different collections.  Let's use the family room, hall closet and guest room.  PK for these three rooms are 1, 2, and respectively.
The second collection is for videos - Video 1, Video 2 and Video 3.
Third collection is for Music CDs - CD 1, CD 2, and CD3.
 
I typically keep junction tables to two columns (one for each table) to allow a multiple combinations between the them.
 
By using a junction table the PKs of four tables become FKs.
 
RmID   MusicID
1             2         
2             1       
3             3         
1             1            
 
RmID    VidioID
1             1         
2             3       
3             2         
2             1  
 
RmID     CDID
1             2         
2             1       
3             3         
1             1  
 
Using junction tables, you can create a reports.
For example, you want a report by room of everything that's in the rooms. 
Using the Junction table you can pull the room with ID 1 into one report.
The common thread in your example are the rooms.  
 
HTH
Jim

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Steve Erbach
Sent: Sun 4/3/2005 7:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem



Dear Group,

A friend who's pretty sharp on computers (PHP development and a fair
amount of VB.NET) asked me to help him figure out a way to handle his
home inventory. He has LPs, Books, video cassettes, etc., half a dozen
different categories in all of things he wants to record in tables. So
far he's made an individual collection table for each type of item:
Books, LPs, Videos, etc.

His question was how to make a master table that had common
information in it -- purchase date, purchase price, location in house,
and category. He was also trying to figure out a way to have a big
master form, perhaps with a tab object, and subforms for all the
tables containing his collections.

I admit that I was a bit stumped. It's easy enough to determine that
the master table should have, say, an AutoNumber key field for each
item in his entire home inventory and that the individual item tables
would link to the master through a foreign key or simply with a Long
Integer field containing the Master key. But there would be a
one-to-one link between the master and the collection tables.

But what he'd like to do is see multiple rows for each of his
collection items at the same time. This implies that the subforms
would NOT be linked to the master. If they WERE linked to the master,
then only ONE item from ONE collection table would show up.

Have you lot ever tried something like this? His notion is that if the
Master table contains the location for each item then he can easily
query the master to find all the items in, say, the upstairs closet.
But then creating a report or a query might be a struggle since he
could conceivably have items from six different collections in that
closet...or only four of the collections.

I think you get the drift. Each collection has enough unique
information that keeping the items in separate tables makes sense, but
pulling all the information together to make an inventory valuation
might be a chore. Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Apr  3 22:03:54 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:03:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: disabling keys on the keyboard
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873940@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200504040303.j3433ii12366@databaseadvisors.com>

ROFL

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: disabling keys on the keyboard

Have you tried physically removing the key?  If you're entrusting it to
a 4-year-old, then a little more damage won't make any difference.
<wink>

Charlotte Foust



From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Sun Apr  3 23:08:23 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:38:23 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code
References: <200504010356875.SM04532@ORSLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <00ab01c538cc$efe80010$601865cb@winxp>

Marcel,

    You should be able to obtain the required information directly from the modules collection.

    Sample sub-routine given below, will list all lines (along with names of respective modules) satisfying your criteria, in the immediate window. For your specific case, the following statement, calling this subroutine, will do the needful.
    P_GetMatchingCodeLines "MsgBox"

    Important - You have to set reference to Microsoft Visual Basic For Applications Extensibility 5.3

A.D.Tejpal
--------------

===================================
Public Sub P_GetMatchingCodeLines(ByVal _
                                            MatchString As String)
    ' This needs reference to Microsoft Visual Basic
    ' For Applications Extensibility 5.3
    Dim mdc As Modules, md As Module
    Dim Cnt As Long, Lct As Long, Txt As String
    Dim DecLines As Long, ProcStLine As Long
    Dim ModName As String, PrName As String
    Dim ProcLine As Long
    
    Set mdc = Application.Modules
    ' Loop through all the modules in this collection
    For Cnt = 0 To mdc.Count - 1
        Set md = mdc(Cnt)
        ' Get name of module
        ModName = md.Name
        ' Get number of lines in declaration portion
        DecLines = md.CountOfDeclarationLines
        ' Loop through all the lines in this module
        For Lct = 1 To md.CountOfLines
            ' Get the contents of line Lct
            Txt = md.Lines(Lct, 1)
            If InStr(Txt, MatchString) > 0 Then
                If md.Type = acStandardModule _
                                            Or InStr(ModName, _
                                            "Form_") > 0 Then    ' (A)
                    If Lct > DecLines Then                      ' (B)
                        ' Get name of procedure
                        ' (in which, line Lct is contained)
                        PrName = md.ProcOfLine(Lct, _
                                            vbext_pk_Proc)
                        ' Get starting Line No for this procedure
                        ProcStLine = md.ProcBodyLine(PrName, _
                                            vbext_pk_Proc)        ' (C)
                        ' Compute Line number as counted
                        ' from start of procedure
                        ProcLine = Lct - ProcStLine + 1
                    Else
                        PrName = "Declaration Sec"
                        ProcStLine = 1
                        ProcLine = Lct
                    End If
                Else
                    PrName = "Class"
                    ProcStLine = 1
                    ProcLine = Lct
                End If
                Debug.Print "Mod - " & ModName & ",  Proc - " & _
                            PrName & ",  Line(ProcLine) - " & _
                            Lct & "(" & ProcLine & ")"
                Debug.Print Space(6) & Trim(Txt)
            End If
        Next
    Next
    
    Set md = Nothing
    Set mdc = Nothing
    
    ' Note - (A) & (B) are needed so as to ensure that there is
    '              no mismatch of argument regarding assumed type
    '              of procedure ()
    '              (C) The value returned by md.ProcBodyLine() is
    '              more dependable as it gives the line number where
    '              the procedure actually starts. On the other hand,
    '              md.ProcStartLine() returns the first line after end
    '              of prev procedure. This can be misleading when
    '              there are one or more blank lines between
    '              adjacent procedures.
End Sub
===================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marcel Vreuls 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 14:25
  Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code


  Dear Group,

  Just a quick question. Does someone know how I can collect all rows in vbacode where the function msgbox is stated and put this in the debug window or just drop in a file.

  Thanks in advance,

  Marcel


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr  3 23:22:26 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 21:22:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor
Message-ID: <01c201c538cd$e82d9640$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

The Sleep Advisor, a joint venture between myself and Dr. Rubin Naiman, a recognized expert in the field of sleep disorders, is entering its next phase of beta testing.  The program is an expert system which identifies sleep disorders and give detailed remedies and recommendations for improving your sleep health.

We need to collect several hundred tests to verify that the diagnostic engine is working correctly.  Several list members have already volunteered as test subjects and we're very grateful for their participation.

The program is available now as a run-time download from a web site. It's about 46MB so you need either broadband or patience.

You can read about Dr. Rubin Naiman at http://www.drnaiman.com/ and the program at http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php.

We would be very appreciative of anyone who would like to complete the assessment especially if you think you have a sleep problem or have been previously diagnosed with one.  We think many will find the report to be of great value.  It has already proven helpful to many.

If you have any questions please write or call me.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From viner at EUnet.yu  Mon Apr  4 01:58:14 2005
From: viner at EUnet.yu (Ervin Brindza)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:58:14 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Question :-)
Message-ID: <017901c538e3$ed87aa70$0100a8c0@RazvojErvin>

Three witches watch three Swatch watches. Which witch watch which Swatch
watch?



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Apr  4 03:29:07 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:29:07 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <s2511712.037@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve

Has he considered the time needed to "record" these things??

I once listed all my vinyl records in a nice database as I planned to
sell them as a collection. Quickly I realized the amount of typing work
and persuaded (bought) my daughter to do this for sweet daddy. She did
but I wasn't proud.

So your friend should consider if it wasn't a better idea to
listen/watch/read items from his collection rather than spending a vast
amount of time recording it. Unless, of course, he has 50 items of each
in which case - as suggested - write a list in Word.

Oh, I didn't sell the records ...

/gustav

>>> erbachs at gmail.com 04/04 2:26 am >>>

He has LPs, Books, video cassettes, etc., half a dozen
different categories in all of things he wants to record in tables.



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr  4 07:12:31 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 05:12:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0IEF0033O8KROR@l-daemon>

Hi Steve:

Have you tried looking into the use of a flexgrid? If you have access to VB6
or the like, the flexgrid can be used by referencing the FlexGrid control
'msflxgrd.ocx', the Hierarchical FlexGrid control 'mshflxgd.ocx' or/with the
ADO Shape control 'msadodc.ocx' (available through ADO 2.0 and up). 

I have only had to reference the Hierarchical FlexGrid once for a client
when the requirement was for viewing data in various groupings depending on
which column, from the list presented that was selected. The grid would
re-form with each click. The control names might be slightly dated (dlls
might be used now) as the application was created at least five years ago
and it has not required changing in these areas.

See Microsoft reference to the flex controls at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vbcon98/htm
l/vbconhflexgridcontrol.asp (watch for wrap)

Or a sample ADO shape command being used:
http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=6512&lng
WId=4

Without going into great detail...

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 5:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem

Dear Group,

A friend who's pretty sharp on computers (PHP development and a fair
amount of VB.NET) asked me to help him figure out a way to handle his
home inventory. He has LPs, Books, video cassettes, etc., half a dozen
different categories in all of things he wants to record in tables. So
far he's made an individual collection table for each type of item:
Books, LPs, Videos, etc.

His question was how to make a master table that had common
information in it -- purchase date, purchase price, location in house,
and category. He was also trying to figure out a way to have a big
master form, perhaps with a tab object, and subforms for all the
tables containing his collections.

I admit that I was a bit stumped. It's easy enough to determine that
the master table should have, say, an AutoNumber key field for each
item in his entire home inventory and that the individual item tables
would link to the master through a foreign key or simply with a Long
Integer field containing the Master key. But there would be a
one-to-one link between the master and the collection tables.

But what he'd like to do is see multiple rows for each of his
collection items at the same time. This implies that the subforms
would NOT be linked to the master. If they WERE linked to the master,
then only ONE item from ONE collection table would show up.

Have you lot ever tried something like this? His notion is that if the
Master table contains the location for each item then he can easily
query the master to find all the items in, say, the upstairs closet.
But then creating a report or a query might be a struggle since he
could conceivably have items from six different collections in that
closet...or only four of the collections.

I think you get the drift. Each collection has enough unique
information that keeping the items in separate tables makes sense, but
pulling all the information together to make an inventory valuation
might be a chore. Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Mon Apr  4 07:55:55 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:55:55 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Datasheet view validation
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1EC@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I have a form that has as its record source a query that joins two tables
together in a one-to-many relationship (outer join). I am displaying this
form as a datasheet.
The query is designed so that there will never be any records that match on
the "many" side when it is first opened. The query only displays two
columns. One from the "one" side and one from the "many" side.
As I have it now, a user could close the form without entering data into the
field from the "many" side, thus not creating a record on the "many" side.

How can I verify that the user has entered data in the field from the "many"
side for every record that is displayed? I don't want to restrict the row
order in which they enter data but I do want to make sure that the field for
each row is filled in before they close the form.

Thanks!
JR




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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr  4 08:03:00 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:03:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Datasheet view validation
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1EC@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <20050404130305.YOQX2468.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, the easiest way -- which might not be the best way for you -- would be
to simply make that field Required at the table level. If the value truly is
required when you enter the record, this works OK and is a simple solution. 

Susan H. 

Hi All,

I have a form that has as its record source a query that joins two tables
together in a one-to-many relationship (outer join). I am displaying this
form as a datasheet.
The query is designed so that there will never be any records that match on
the "many" side when it is first opened. The query only displays two
columns. One from the "one" side and one from the "many" side.
As I have it now, a user could close the form without entering data into the
field from the "many" side, thus not creating a record on the "many" side.

How can I verify that the user has entered data in the field from the "many"
side for every record that is displayed? I don't want to restrict the row
order in which they enter data but I do want to make sure that the field for
each row is filled in before they close the form.

Thanks!
JR




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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Apr  4 08:28:12 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 06:28:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor
In-Reply-To: <01c201c538cd$e82d9640$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <200504041328.j34DS9i18651@databaseadvisors.com>

Do you need me to do it again?

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 9:22 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor

Dear List:

The Sleep Advisor, a joint venture between myself and Dr. Rubin Naiman, a
recognized expert in the field of sleep disorders, is entering its next
phase of beta testing.  The program is an expert system which identifies
sleep disorders and give detailed remedies and recommendations for improving
your sleep health.

We need to collect several hundred tests to verify that the diagnostic
engine is working correctly.  Several list members have already volunteered
as test subjects and we're very grateful for their participation.

The program is available now as a run-time download from a web site. It's
about 46MB so you need either broadband or patience.

You can read about Dr. Rubin Naiman at http://www.drnaiman.com/ and the
program at http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php.

We would be very appreciative of anyone who would like to complete the
assessment especially if you think you have a sleep problem or have been
previously diagnosed with one.  We think many will find the report to be of
great value.  It has already proven helpful to many.

If you have any questions please write or call me.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Mon Apr  4 09:01:23 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:01:23 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Query wierdness
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1ED@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,
Access 2000 all SPs

I create a query that is as follows:

SELECT tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder, tblSOAttributes.OpNum, 
tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum, tblSOAttributes.Attribute, 
IIF(tblSOAttributes.Device2 Is Null, tblSOAttributes.Device1, 
tblSOAttributes.Device1 & " / " & tblSOAttributes.Device2) AS Device, 
T1.NumPart, T1.Measurement
FROM tblSOAttributes LEFT JOIN 
(SELECT * FROM tblMeasurements 
WHERE NumPart = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtNumPart]) AS T1 
ON (tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum = T1.AttributeNum) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.OpNum = T1.OpNum) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = T1.SONumber)
WHERE 
tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtSONum] 
AND tblSOAttributes.OpNum = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtOpNum] 
AND ([Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtInProcess] = 1 OR 
tblSOAttributes.Inprocess = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtInProcess])
ORDER BY tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum;

For the most part the query works great.
But when Access saves the query, it saves it as:

SELECT tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder, tblSOAttributes.OpNum, 
tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum, tblSOAttributes.Attribute, 
IIF(tblSOAttributes.Device2 Is Null, tblSOAttributes.Device1, 
tblSOAttributes.Device1 & " / " & tblSOAttributes.Device2) AS Device, 
T1.NumPart, T1.Measurement
FROM tblSOAttributes LEFT JOIN 
[SELECT * FROM tblMeasurements 
WHERE NumPart = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtNumPart]]. AS T1
ON (tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = T1.SONumber) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.OpNum = T1.OpNum) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum = T1.AttributeNum)
WHERE 
tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtSONum] 
AND tblSOAttributes.OpNum = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtOpNum] 
AND ([Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtInProcess] = 1 OR 
tblSOAttributes.Inprocess = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtInProcess])
ORDER BY tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum;

Notice that the parentheses around the sub query were replaced with brackets
and there is a period at the end of the sub query, before AS.
Is this normal?
Normally I wouldn't care but I the query started yelling at me about a
syntax error near the from clause and I could even open the query in design
view to adjust any thing. It would show the query, display the
aforementioned error, I would click ok and it would close the query design
window. I had to delete the query and rewrite it!

JR 




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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  4 09:32:31 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 07:32:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
Message-ID: <004e01c53923$22cd84e0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the clients?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Mon Apr  4 09:43:11 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:43:11 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Datasheet view validation
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1EE@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks for the reply Susan!
Unfortunately, when I do this, it does not force the user to enter data into
the field. Because of the join I described below, the "required field"
requirement would only work if the user actually entered data in the field
that had the "required field" setting in the first place.

Any other ideas?

Thanks!
JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:03 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Datasheet view validation

Well, the easiest way -- which might not be the best way for you -- would be
to simply make that field Required at the table level. If the value truly is
required when you enter the record, this works OK and is a simple solution.

Susan H.

Hi All,

I have a form that has as its record source a query that joins two tables
together in a one-to-many relationship (outer join). I am displaying this
form as a datasheet.
The query is designed so that there will never be any records that match on
the "many" side when it is first opened. The query only displays two
columns. One from the "one" side and one from the "many" side.
As I have it now, a user could close the form without entering data into the
field from the "many" side, thus not creating a record on the "many" side.

How can I verify that the user has entered data in the field from the "many"
side for every record that is displayed? I don't want to restrict the row
order in which they enter data but I do want to make sure that the field for
each row is filled in before they close the form.

Thanks!
JR




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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Apr  4 09:44:56 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:44:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B598E@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Don't see why not.

Linux just uses SMB file sharing like other OS's... 

Erwin


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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:33 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?

Dear List:

Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the
clients?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
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From marcus at tsstech.com  Mon Apr  4 10:25:57 2005
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:25:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D01BE0AE6@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

Yes you can. I've been doing this for nearly two years.

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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:33 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?

Dear List:

Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the
clients?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
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http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr  4 10:36:38 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:36:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Query wierdness
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899E9D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The square brackets and period are actually the correct puntuation for
the virtual table you're creating with the subquery, it's just that the
Access 2000 query engine gets itself confused.  If you create the query
and don't reopen it, it should continue to work.  If you do have to open
it in SQL view, replace the square brackets and period with a pair of
parens and see if that quiets Access down.  They'll still be converted
behind the scenes, but it might save you having to rewrite the whole
query.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Query wierdness


Hi All,
Access 2000 all SPs

I create a query that is as follows:

SELECT tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder, tblSOAttributes.OpNum, 
tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum, tblSOAttributes.Attribute, 
IIF(tblSOAttributes.Device2 Is Null, tblSOAttributes.Device1, 
tblSOAttributes.Device1 & " / " & tblSOAttributes.Device2) AS Device, 
T1.NumPart, T1.Measurement
FROM tblSOAttributes LEFT JOIN 
(SELECT * FROM tblMeasurements 
WHERE NumPart = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtNumPart]) AS T1

ON (tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum = T1.AttributeNum) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.OpNum = T1.OpNum) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = T1.SONumber)
WHERE 
tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtSONum] 
AND tblSOAttributes.OpNum = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtOpNum] 
AND ([Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtInProcess] = 1 OR 
tblSOAttributes.Inprocess = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtInProcess])
ORDER BY tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum;

For the most part the query works great.
But when Access saves the query, it saves it as:

SELECT tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder, tblSOAttributes.OpNum, 
tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum, tblSOAttributes.Attribute, 
IIF(tblSOAttributes.Device2 Is Null, tblSOAttributes.Device1, 
tblSOAttributes.Device1 & " / " & tblSOAttributes.Device2) AS Device, 
T1.NumPart, T1.Measurement
FROM tblSOAttributes LEFT JOIN 
[SELECT * FROM tblMeasurements 
WHERE NumPart = [Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtNumPart]]. AS
T1 ON (tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = T1.SONumber) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.OpNum = T1.OpNum) AND 
(tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum = T1.AttributeNum)
WHERE 
tblSOAttributes.ShopOrder = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtSONum] 
AND tblSOAttributes.OpNum = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtOpNum] 
AND ([Forms]![In Process Data Collection]![txtInProcess] = 1 OR 
tblSOAttributes.Inprocess = [Forms]![In Process Data
Collection]![txtInProcess])
ORDER BY tblSOAttributes.AttributeNum;

Notice that the parentheses around the sub query were replaced with
brackets and there is a period at the end of the sub query, before AS.
Is this normal? Normally I wouldn't care but I the query started yelling
at me about a syntax error near the from clause and I could even open
the query in design view to adjust any thing. It would show the query,
display the aforementioned error, I would click ok and it would close
the query design window. I had to delete the query and rewrite it!

JR 




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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  4 10:44:59 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:44:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor
References: <200504041328.j34DS9i18651@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <00b101c5392d$42590910$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Joe:

If you don't mind we would greatly appreciate your doing the Sleep Advisor 
again.  We made a lot of changes in the way the questions are worded and in 
the output (a bit shorter and more concise in many places, although the 
report is still quite detailed; more accurate, too, we hope).

So we'd be interested in your reaction to the inputs and the outputs.  Also, 
since you're a developer, you can tell me how the installation process 
goes - this is a run-time you'll be downloading.

So, please give it a go and, when you've finished, don't forget to attach 
the two txt files to an email and send them in.  We'll send you back a pdf 
of your report.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:28 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor


> Do you need me to do it again?
>
> Joe Hecht
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 28g
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 9:22 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor
>
> Dear List:
>
> The Sleep Advisor, a joint venture between myself and Dr. Rubin Naiman, a
> recognized expert in the field of sleep disorders, is entering its next
> phase of beta testing.  The program is an expert system which identifies
> sleep disorders and give detailed remedies and recommendations for 
> improving
> your sleep health.
>
> We need to collect several hundred tests to verify that the diagnostic
> engine is working correctly.  Several list members have already 
> volunteered
> as test subjects and we're very grateful for their participation.
>
> The program is available now as a run-time download from a web site. It's
> about 46MB so you need either broadband or patience.
>
> You can read about Dr. Rubin Naiman at http://www.drnaiman.com/ and the
> program at http://www.drnaiman.com/sleepad.php.
>
> We would be very appreciative of anyone who would like to complete the
> assessment especially if you think you have a sleep problem or have been
> previously diagnosed with one.  We think many will find the report to be 
> of
> great value.  It has already proven helpful to many.
>
> If you have any questions please write or call me.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  4 10:52:14 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:52:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
References: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D01BE0AE6@2003exchg.TSS.AD>
Message-ID: <010d01c5392e$454d4d60$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Scott and Erwin:

Thanks for you replies.  There's no end of stuff to know, is there?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Marcus" <marcus at tsstech.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?


> Yes you can. I've been doing this for nearly two years.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:33 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
>
> Dear List:
>
> Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the
> clients?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Mon Apr  4 11:56:07 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 22:26:07 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Datasheet view validation
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1EC@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <008101c53937$6492e460$851865cb@winxp>

JR,

    Your objective can be met by placing the code block given below, in form's Unload event. FldRight is the name of field on many side of the join.

    An attempt to close the form while field FldRight is yet to be filled up in any of the records, will result in a message box stating the number of such entries which are still awaited. Once the message box is acknowledged, the cursor will move to the first record having blank FldRight awaiting entry.

    As an added effect, you could consider highlighting such blank fields in special color, through conditional formatting.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

=====================================
Private Sub Form_Unload(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim rst As DAO.Recordset
    Dim RecSource As String, Blanks As Long
    
    Me.Dirty = False
    RecSource = Me.RecordSource
    Blanks = DCount("*", RecSource, _
                                    "FldRight Is Null")
    If Blanks > 0 Then
        Set rst = Me.RecordsetClone
        MsgBox Blanks & " Entries Still " & _
                                "Pending In Field FldRight"
        rst.FindFirst "FldRight Is Null"
        If Not rst.NoMatch Then
            Me.Bookmark = rst.Bookmark
            FldRight.SetFocus
        End If
        Set rst = Nothing
        Cancel = True
    End If
End Sub
=====================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Rojas 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 18:25
  Subject: [AccessD] Datasheet view validation


  Hi All,

  I have a form that has as its record source a query that joins two tables together in a one-to-many relationship (outer join). I am displaying this form as a datasheet.
  The query is designed so that there will never be any records that match on the "many" side when it is first opened. The query only displays two columns. One from the "one" side and one from the "many" side.
  As I have it now, a user could close the form without entering data into the field from the "many" side, thus not creating a record on the "many" side.

  How can I verify that the user has entered data in the field from the "many" side for every record that is displayed? I don't want to restrict the row order in which they enter data but I do want to make sure that the field for each row is filled in before they close the form.

  Thanks!
  JR


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Apr  4 13:18:17 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:18:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5991@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Well, my first experiences with a (defective) Linux server where pretty
scary.....

As probably all "first" time (technical) experiences are...
My first lobster and first Spanish tapas where rather pleasant.


Erwin

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Beach Access Software
Verzonden: maandag 4 april 2005 17:52
Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Onderwerp: Re: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?

Scott and Erwin:

Thanks for you replies.  There's no end of stuff to know, is there?

Rocky

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?


> Yes you can. I've been doing this for nearly two years.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:33 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
>
> Dear List:
>
> Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the
> clients?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Apr  4 13:38:24 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 18:38:24 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Microsoft access questions
In-Reply-To: <200504032204.j33M4Ji07313@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F372D2C534462CA05124B88D23B0@phx.gbl>

Joe,

Below is a description from http://www.freedomscientific.com
that describes JAWS, which assists vision-impaired computer users.

"The most popular screen reader worldwide, JAWS? for Windows works with your 
PC to provide access to today?s software applications and the Internet. With 
its internal software speech synthesizer and the computer?s sound card, 
information from the screen is read aloud, providing technology to access a 
wide variety of information, education and job related applications. JAWS 
also outputs to refreshable Braille displays, providing unmatched Braille 
support of any screen reader on the market. A training tutorial is 
included."

If your end user will be utilizing JAWS, write the app so the mouse will 
never be touched.

Thanks,

Mark




>From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: Microsoft access questions
>Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 15:04:27 -0700
>
>Mark,
>
>What is Jaws
>
>Joe Hecht
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>28g
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>Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:27 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: microsoft access questions
>
>Marvin,
>
>Last year I rolled out a database in Texas.  When I got to the last 
>machine,
>
>I was introduced to JAWS ?
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr  4 14:49:43 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:49:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <015201c538bf$3cf22ba0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<015201c538bf$3cf22ba0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30504041249194ba138@mail.gmail.com>

Rocky,

Actually, no. He certainly could get the total purchase price, say, of
all of his books with a Word document; it would just take him a while
to add it up on an adding machine. Getting a list of everything stored
in the basement storage room would be a chore, too.

Steve Erbach

On Apr 3, 2005 9:37 PM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
<bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Steve:
> 
> Not really responsive but I have to question why he wants to do this at all?
> Unless it's just a busman's holiday, why not just create a list of his
> albums, a list of his books, a list of his cassettes in a word doc print it
> out and be done.  Then he'd know everything he needs by looking at the
> lists, no?
> 
> Rocky
>


From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr  4 14:55:02 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:55:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <s2511712.037@cactus.dk>
References: <s2511712.037@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050404125558f4b296@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav,

I'm sure he's considered the time needed. I once "inventoried" all the
books in our house by category. I didn't list them, I just counted
them. No way would I want to record even just the titles in a
database. But my friend seems reconciled to it.

Steve Erbach

On Apr 4, 2005 3:29 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Steve
> 
> Has he considered the time needed to "record" these things??
> 
> I once listed all my vinyl records in a nice database as I planned to
> sell them as a collection. Quickly I realized the amount of typing work
> and persuaded (bought) my daughter to do this for sweet daddy. She did
> but I wasn't proud.
> 
> So your friend should consider if it wasn't a better idea to
> listen/watch/read items from his collection rather than spending a vast
> amount of time recording it. Unless, of course, he has 50 items of each
> in which case - as suggested - write a list in Word.
> 
> Oh, I didn't sell the records ...
> 
> /gustav


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  4 14:58:20 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:58:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<015201c538bf$3cf22ba0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
	<39cb22f30504041249194ba138@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02e001c53950$a6fafa40$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Steve:

Then it seem like Excel would be the ideal tool.  No programming.  No 
design.  No debugging.  Capture the data in it's simplest form - item, 
location cost - sum of cost at the end.

Then down the road, he could always make an Access db - the spreadsheets 
would be easy to convert.  My guess is that the would never fool with it 
because the spreadsheets would give him all the information he needed.

Effective, but, of course, no fun.

Rocky


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Home inventory problem


> Rocky,
>
> Actually, no. He certainly could get the total purchase price, say, of
> all of his books with a Word document; it would just take him a while
> to add it up on an adding machine. Getting a list of everything stored
> in the basement storage room would be a chore, too.
>
> Steve Erbach
>
> On Apr 3, 2005 9:37 PM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>> Steve:
>>
>> Not really responsive but I have to question why he wants to do this at 
>> all?
>> Unless it's just a busman's holiday, why not just create a list of his
>> albums, a list of his books, a list of his cassettes in a word doc print 
>> it
>> out and be done.  Then he'd know everything he needs by looking at the
>> lists, no?
>>
>> Rocky
>>
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr  4 14:59:34 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:59:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02859D96@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02859D96@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305040412593de851fe@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

I think we're on the right track here. You're talking about
many-to-many linking tables.

Thanks for detailing this method. At least YOU took me seriously.
Rocky and Gustav just came up with "take time to smell the roses!"
Sheesh!

Steve Erbach

On Apr 3, 2005 9:56 PM, Jim Hewson <JHewson at karta.com> wrote:
> Steve,
> What you need are junction tables.  Tables that hold PKs from different tables.
> I've done this for several different databases.
> I'm currently working on one for pastoral musicians to keep track of their music.
> Songs, composers (with multiple songs), who arranged the piece (could be composer or someone else), instruments (single or multiple), copyright holders and addresses.  A song could be sheet, book, cd, octavo or combination.  A song could be used for one or more liturgical season (e.g. Tridiuum and Easter).  I have seen two songs with the same title, different composers.  What is the vocal arrangement (choir, duet, quartet, etc.) if any.
> 
> In your sample below, you had a closet with several different collections.  Let's use the family room, hall closet and guest room.  PK for these three rooms are 1, 2, and respectively.
> The second collection is for videos - Video 1, Video 2 and Video 3.
> Third collection is for Music CDs - CD 1, CD 2, and CD3.
> 
> I typically keep junction tables to two columns (one for each table) to allow a multiple combinations between the them.
> 
> By using a junction table the PKs of four tables become FKs.
> 
> RmID   MusicID
> 1             2
> 2             1
> 3             3
> 1             1
> 
> RmID    VidioID
> 1             1
> 2             3
> 3             2
> 2             1
> 
> RmID     CDID
> 1             2
> 2             1
> 3             3
> 1             1
> 
> Using junction tables, you can create a reports.
> For example, you want a report by room of everything that's in the rooms.
> Using the Junction table you can pull the room with ID 1 into one report.
> The common thread in your example are the rooms.
> 
> HTH
> Jim
>


From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr  4 15:02:17 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:02:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <0IEF0033O8KROR@l-daemon>
References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<0IEF0033O8KROR@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050404130272f63caa@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

Interesting. Do you know, I have never tried to use an ActiveX control
in an Access application. I think I'll stick with Jim H.'s
many-to-many linking tables idea, if you don't mind. Thanks for your
input.

Steve Erbach

On Apr 4, 2005 7:12 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Steve:
> 
> Have you tried looking into the use of a flexgrid? If you have access to VB6
> or the like, the flexgrid can be used by referencing the FlexGrid control
> 'msflxgrd.ocx', the Hierarchical FlexGrid control 'mshflxgd.ocx' or/with the
> ADO Shape control 'msadodc.ocx' (available through ADO 2.0 and up).
> 
> I have only had to reference the Hierarchical FlexGrid once for a client
> when the requirement was for viewing data in various groupings depending on
> which column, from the list presented that was selected. The grid would
> re-form with each click. The control names might be slightly dated (dlls
> might be used now) as the application was created at least five years ago
> and it has not required changing in these areas.
> 
> See Microsoft reference to the flex controls at:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/vbcon98/htm
> l/vbconhflexgridcontrol.asp (watch for wrap)
> 
> Or a sample ADO shape command being used:
> http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=6512&lng
> WId=4
> 
> Without going into great detail...
> 
> HTH
> Jim


From vrm at tim-cms.com  Mon Apr  4 15:32:21 2005
From: vrm at tim-cms.com (Marcel Vreuls)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 22:32:21 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code
In-Reply-To: <00ab01c538cc$efe80010$601865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <200504041632765.SM02892@ORSLAPTOP>

 
TNXS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just what I needed.

Marcel
 
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens A.D.Tejpal
Verzonden: maandag 4 april 2005 5:08
Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Onderwerp: Re: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code

Marcel,

    You should be able to obtain the required information directly from the
modules collection.

    Sample sub-routine given below, will list all lines (along with names of
respective modules) satisfying your criteria, in the immediate window. For
your specific case, the following statement, calling this subroutine, will
do the needful.
    P_GetMatchingCodeLines "MsgBox"

    Important - You have to set reference to Microsoft Visual Basic For
Applications Extensibility 5.3

A.D.Tejpal
--------------

===================================
Public Sub P_GetMatchingCodeLines(ByVal _
                                            MatchString As String)
    ' This needs reference to Microsoft Visual Basic
    ' For Applications Extensibility 5.3
    Dim mdc As Modules, md As Module
    Dim Cnt As Long, Lct As Long, Txt As String
    Dim DecLines As Long, ProcStLine As Long
    Dim ModName As String, PrName As String
    Dim ProcLine As Long
    
    Set mdc = Application.Modules
    ' Loop through all the modules in this collection
    For Cnt = 0 To mdc.Count - 1
        Set md = mdc(Cnt)
        ' Get name of module
        ModName = md.Name
        ' Get number of lines in declaration portion
        DecLines = md.CountOfDeclarationLines
        ' Loop through all the lines in this module
        For Lct = 1 To md.CountOfLines
            ' Get the contents of line Lct
            Txt = md.Lines(Lct, 1)
            If InStr(Txt, MatchString) > 0 Then
                If md.Type = acStandardModule _
                                            Or InStr(ModName, _
                                            "Form_") > 0 Then    ' (A)
                    If Lct > DecLines Then                      ' (B)
                        ' Get name of procedure
                        ' (in which, line Lct is contained)
                        PrName = md.ProcOfLine(Lct, _
                                            vbext_pk_Proc)
                        ' Get starting Line No for this procedure
                        ProcStLine = md.ProcBodyLine(PrName, _
                                            vbext_pk_Proc)        ' (C)
                        ' Compute Line number as counted
                        ' from start of procedure
                        ProcLine = Lct - ProcStLine + 1
                    Else
                        PrName = "Declaration Sec"
                        ProcStLine = 1
                        ProcLine = Lct
                    End If
                Else
                    PrName = "Class"
                    ProcStLine = 1
                    ProcLine = Lct
                End If
                Debug.Print "Mod - " & ModName & ",  Proc - " & _
                            PrName & ",  Line(ProcLine) - " & _
                            Lct & "(" & ProcLine & ")"
                Debug.Print Space(6) & Trim(Txt)
            End If
        Next
    Next
    
    Set md = Nothing
    Set mdc = Nothing
    
    ' Note - (A) & (B) are needed so as to ensure that there is
    '              no mismatch of argument regarding assumed type
    '              of procedure ()
    '              (C) The value returned by md.ProcBodyLine() is
    '              more dependable as it gives the line number where
    '              the procedure actually starts. On the other hand,
    '              md.ProcStartLine() returns the first line after end
    '              of prev procedure. This can be misleading when
    '              there are one or more blank lines between
    '              adjacent procedures.
End Sub
===================================

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Marcel Vreuls
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 14:25
  Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code


  Dear Group,

  Just a quick question. Does someone know how I can collect all rows in
vbacode where the function msgbox is stated and put this in the debug window
or just drop in a file.

  Thanks in advance,

  Marcel
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From JHewson at karta.com  Mon Apr  4 15:40:59 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:40:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F25@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

They do have a point though.
Sometimes the simplest or non-technical solution is the best.
I have spent hours - days - no weeks on a database and gave it to the customer.  Only to have them decide it's too much work to enter the data and maintain.  So the database became a throw-away sample.  At least I got paid for it... besides as Rocky suggested - there can be a fun side of doing things.

Jim H.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Home inventory problem


Jim,

I think we're on the right track here. You're talking about
many-to-many linking tables.

Thanks for detailing this method. At least YOU took me seriously.
Rocky and Gustav just came up with "take time to smell the roses!"
Sheesh!

Steve Erbach

On Apr 3, 2005 9:56 PM, Jim Hewson <JHewson at karta.com> wrote:
> Steve,
> What you need are junction tables.  Tables that hold PKs from different tables.
> I've done this for several different databases.
> I'm currently working on one for pastoral musicians to keep track of their music.
> Songs, composers (with multiple songs), who arranged the piece (could be composer or someone else), instruments (single or multiple), copyright holders and addresses.  A song could be sheet, book, cd, octavo or combination.  A song could be used for one or more liturgical season (e.g. Tridiuum and Easter).  I have seen two songs with the same title, different composers.  What is the vocal arrangement (choir, duet, quartet, etc.) if any.
> 
> In your sample below, you had a closet with several different collections.  Let's use the family room, hall closet and guest room.  PK for these three rooms are 1, 2, and respectively.
> The second collection is for videos - Video 1, Video 2 and Video 3.
> Third collection is for Music CDs - CD 1, CD 2, and CD3.
> 
> I typically keep junction tables to two columns (one for each table) to allow a multiple combinations between the them.
> 
> By using a junction table the PKs of four tables become FKs.
> 
> RmID   MusicID
> 1             2
> 2             1
> 3             3
> 1             1
> 
> RmID    VidioID
> 1             1
> 2             3
> 3             2
> 2             1
> 
> RmID     CDID
> 1             2
> 2             1
> 3             3
> 1             1
> 
> Using junction tables, you can create a reports.
> For example, you want a report by room of everything that's in the rooms.
> Using the Junction table you can pull the room with ID 1 into one report.
> The common thread in your example are the rooms.
> 
> HTH
> Jim
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Apr  4 16:01:55 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:01:55 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374DB@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

He could scan the ISBN barcode. I remember we had a discussion once (couple
of years ago?) about a cheapo scanner that was being given away free- I got
one from Forbes magazine as I recall. There was a great hack with code to
allow one to scan into Access. Hey, if you're going off the deep end why not
go all the way?!
Jim Hale 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 2:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Home inventory problem


Gustav,

I'm sure he's considered the time needed. I once "inventoried" all the
books in our house by category. I didn't list them, I just counted
them. No way would I want to record even just the titles in a
database. But my friend seems reconciled to it.

Steve Erbach

On Apr 4, 2005 3:29 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Steve
> 
> Has he considered the time needed to "record" these things??
> 
> I once listed all my vinyl records in a nice database as I planned to
> sell them as a collection. Quickly I realized the amount of typing work
> and persuaded (bought) my daughter to do this for sweet daddy. She did
> but I wasn't proud.
> 
> So your friend should consider if it wasn't a better idea to
> listen/watch/read items from his collection rather than spending a vast
> amount of time recording it. Unless, of course, he has 50 items of each
> in which case - as suggested - write a list in Word.
> 
> Oh, I didn't sell the records ...
> 
> /gustav
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Mon Apr  4 16:45:34 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:45:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB08657DD600@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Are you talking about the CueCat?  A quick Google showed me this little
gem:
http://www.cedmagic.com/cuecat/cuecat.html

I still have one of those in my dusty ol' junk boxes.  I'm definitely
going to try this out!

(...and the CueCat goes down in the annals of history as one of the
poorest conceived technology ventures.  Yeech!)


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Home inventory problem

He could scan the ISBN barcode. I remember we had a discussion once
(couple of years ago?) about a cheapo scanner that was being given away
free- I got one from Forbes magazine as I recall. There was a great hack
with code to allow one to scan into Access. Hey, if you're going off the
deep end why not go all the way?!
Jim Hale 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 2:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Home inventory problem


Gustav,

I'm sure he's considered the time needed. I once "inventoried" all the
books in our house by category. I didn't list them, I just counted them.
No way would I want to record even just the titles in a database. But my
friend seems reconciled to it.

Steve Erbach

On Apr 4, 2005 3:29 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Steve
> 
> Has he considered the time needed to "record" these things??
> 
> I once listed all my vinyl records in a nice database as I planned to 
> sell them as a collection. Quickly I realized the amount of typing 
> work and persuaded (bought) my daughter to do this for sweet daddy. 
> She did but I wasn't proud.
> 
> So your friend should consider if it wasn't a better idea to 
> listen/watch/read items from his collection rather than spending a 
> vast amount of time recording it. Unless, of
 as suggested - write a list in Word.
> 
> Oh, I didn't sell the records ...
> 
> /gustav

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr  4 18:17:40 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:17:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
In-Reply-To: <004e01c53923$22cd84e0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <000601c5396c$82cc1070$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Rocky,

Understanding the answer to this question requires understanding that JET
runs on the workstation, NOT the server.  JET knows how to ask for pieces of
a file (an MDA/E/B) and any file server that can be used with Windows knows
how to open a file and return a piece of that file.  That is really all that
the "server" does with an Access MDB BE.  Jet, running on the workstation
says "Hmmm.... It seems I need 3,940 bytes of data starting at offset
3,487,128", which is exactly what it tells the file server - "please open
the file "MyBE.MDB", move to location 3,487,128 and return the next 3,940
bytes".  JET knows that the data it asked for is 100 records from table X.
All the server knows is that someone (some program) asked for X bytes
starting at location Y in file Z.

More or less of course.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:33 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?


Dear List:

Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the
clients?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From d.dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr  4 18:32:21 2005
From: d.dick at uws.edu.au (Darren DICK)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:32:21 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform
Message-ID: <200504042332.j34NWplE014366@cooper.uws.edu.au>

Hello all
This should be simple :-))

If I type me.undo and attach it to a button on a form I can undo edits to a record.

If I have a main form that has a sub form in it and if I attach code something like
Forms!MyForm!MySubForm.Form.Undo to a button on the main form with the intention of
Undo-ing any edit to the sub form it doesn't seem to work

How do I undo edits to a sub form from a button on the parent form??

Many thanks

Darren






From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Apr  4 18:33:48 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:33:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
References: <004e01c53923$22cd84e0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <4251CEDC.7020104@shaw.ca>

Yes if you run something like Samba file server on Linux.
ChiliSoft had a software package to run ASP on Linux, they had a good 
writeup on
how to install Access mdb's  with Samba and then get at with their ASP 
software
They were bought out in the last year but cant remember by whom.
http://www.samba.org



Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

>Dear List:
>
>Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the clients?
>
>MTIA
>
>Rocky Smolin
>Beach Access Software
>http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>858-259-4334
>  
>

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Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Apr  4 18:37:40 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:37:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F25@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <4251CFC4.7010401@shaw.ca>

I did this for insurance purposes but I just divided everything up into 
rooms, furniture, appliances, paintings but everything had a picture
associated with it, then added a written description. Of course if you 
are insuring your wine collections and you have a couple of cases of 
 Chateau Yquem
Sauternes from 1921 , you want to take pictures of the labels.

Jim Hewson wrote:

>They do have a point though.
>Sometimes the simplest or non-technical solution is the best.
>I have spent hours - days - no weeks on a database and gave it to the customer.  Only to have them decide it's too much work to enter the data and maintain.  So the database became a throw-away sample.  At least I got paid for it... besides as Rocky suggested - there can be a fun side of doing things.
>
>Jim H.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
>Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:00 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
>
>
>Jim,
>
>I think we're on the right track here. You're talking about
>many-to-many linking tables.
>
>Thanks for detailing this method. At least YOU took me seriously.
>Rocky and Gustav just came up with "take time to smell the roses!"
>Sheesh!
>
>Steve Erbach
>
>On Apr 3, 2005 9:56 PM, Jim Hewson <JHewson at karta.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Steve,
>>What you need are junction tables.  Tables that hold PKs from different tables.
>>I've done this for several different databases.
>>I'm currently working on one for pastoral musicians to keep track of their music.
>>Songs, composers (with multiple songs), who arranged the piece (could be composer or someone else), instruments (single or multiple), copyright holders and addresses.  A song could be sheet, book, cd, octavo or combination.  A song could be used for one or more liturgical season (e.g. Tridiuum and Easter).  I have seen two songs with the same title, different composers.  What is the vocal arrangement (choir, duet, quartet, etc.) if any.
>>
>>In your sample below, you had a closet with several different collections.  Let's use the family room, hall closet and guest room.  PK for these three rooms are 1, 2, and respectively.
>>The second collection is for videos - Video 1, Video 2 and Video 3.
>>Third collection is for Music CDs - CD 1, CD 2, and CD3.
>>
>>I typically keep junction tables to two columns (one for each table) to allow a multiple combinations between the them.
>>
>>By using a junction table the PKs of four tables become FKs.
>>
>>RmID   MusicID
>>1             2
>>2             1
>>3             3
>>1             1
>>
>>RmID    VidioID
>>1             1
>>2             3
>>3             2
>>2             1
>>
>>RmID     CDID
>>1             2
>>2             1
>>3             3
>>1             1
>>
>>Using junction tables, you can create a reports.
>>For example, you want a report by room of everything that's in the rooms.
>>Using the Junction table you can pull the room with ID 1 into one report.
>>The common thread in your example are the rooms.
>>
>>HTH
>>Jim
>>
>>    
>>

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Canada





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  4 18:58:44 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:58:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
References: <000601c5396c$82cc1070$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <038d01c53972$3c42e880$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Got it.  They're running E-Z-MRP in Honduras and are moving to a Linux 
server.  That's why the question.

Thanks.

Rocky

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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?


> Rocky,
>
> Understanding the answer to this question requires understanding that JET
> runs on the workstation, NOT the server.  JET knows how to ask for pieces 
> of
> a file (an MDA/E/B) and any file server that can be used with Windows 
> knows
> how to open a file and return a piece of that file.  That is really all 
> that
> the "server" does with an Access MDB BE.  Jet, running on the workstation
> says "Hmmm.... It seems I need 3,940 bytes of data starting at offset
> 3,487,128", which is exactly what it tells the file server - "please open
> the file "MyBE.MDB", move to location 3,487,128 and return the next 3,940
> bytes".  JET knows that the data it asked for is 100 records from table X.
> All the server knows is that someone (some program) asked for X bytes
> starting at location Y in file Z.
>
> More or less of course.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:33 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Can you run an mdb back end on Linux?
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Can you run an mdb back end on a Linux-based server with WinXP on the
> clients?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr  4 19:45:21 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:45:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687395C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can't do it simply, Darren.  When you click the button on the parent
form, the subform record is saved automatically, so undo is no longer
available.  The way I have done this in the past is either with an
unbound subform which can be cleared, by deleting the subform record, or
by storing the current value of each field to the field's tag property
and then overwriting the new value if the decided to "undo."

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform


Hello all
This should be simple :-))

If I type me.undo and attach it to a button on a form I can undo edits
to a record.

If I have a main form that has a sub form in it and if I attach code
something like Forms!MyForm!MySubForm.Form.Undo to a button on the main
form with the intention of Undo-ing any edit to the sub form it doesn't
seem to work

How do I undo edits to a sub form from a button on the parent form??

Many thanks

Darren




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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  4 21:09:35 2005
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:09:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
Message-ID: <20050405020935.53274.qmail@web41104.mail.yahoo.com>

How come clients always find buttons to press that the programmer didn't think of?
 
I have a program for a chain of Sunbed Studios. Because the clients can buy packages of "units of use" and have them in credit it is necessary to give them a PIN No. as well as a Membership Number.
 
When they enter their Membership Number and press <Continue> a popup/modal with one field, in password format, asks them to enter their PIN. The only other thing on the form is <Continue>. Magically, it has been discovered that if they press Left Arrow a box appears with their Membership Number and, much worse, if they press Right Arrow the PIN Number appears in clear.
 
I am now nearly bald!
 
Anyone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
 
TIA
 
Chris

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr  4 21:37:27 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:37:27 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A90135B181@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Charlotte
many thanks - I will lok for an alternative to the Undo

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tue 5/04/2005 10:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform



You can't do it simply, Darren.  When you click the button on the parent
form, the subform record is saved automatically, so undo is no longer
available.  The way I have done this in the past is either with an
unbound subform which can be cleared, by deleting the subform record, or
by storing the current value of each field to the field's tag property
and then overwriting the new value if the decided to "undo."

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform


Hello all
This should be simple :-))

If I type me.undo and attach it to a button on a form I can undo edits
to a record.

If I have a main form that has a sub form in it and if I attach code
something like Forms!MyForm!MySubForm.Form.Undo to a button on the main
form with the intention of Undo-ing any edit to the sub form it doesn't
seem to work

How do I undo edits to a sub form from a button on the parent form??

Many thanks

Darren




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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr  4 22:20:43 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:20:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
Message-ID: <000001c5398e$77cefbc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Is anyone working with SQL Server 2005 Express (beta) and VB Express (2005?)
(beta)?

I am interested in SQL Server 2005 express specifically because it appears
to be a good match for smaller databases (all of my clients), and in
particular my really small clients with just a handful of users up to
perhaps 20 users.  I downloaded SQL and VB express tonight and am starting
to eval it just to see where it is.   No idea the projected release dates.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr  4 22:39:13 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:39:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr  4 22:53:39 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:53:39 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A90135B184@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

JC
That is outstanding!!! - way cool and congratulations
Kids are - without a doubt - the biggest rush in life
 
Good on you and Mary
 
DD
 

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of John W. Colby
Sent: Tue 5/04/2005 1:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life



I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months. 

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr  4 22:59:54 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:59:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
References: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <044001c53993$ed4895a0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Well, good luck.  I am, as you know, an 'old Dad' too, 56 with an 8 year old 
(also a 15 y.o.).

The best thing I ever did with both boys was the Indian Guides program 
through the YMCA.  Look into it.  They have separate programs for boys and 
girls.  It gives you exclusive time with the kid apart from their sibling.

My Indian name was 'Second Wind'.  Now you know why.


Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


>I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live". 
>As
> many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the 
> cutest
> kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
> when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We 
> got
> Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.
>
> The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
> will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
> weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two 
> legs
> (well, they ARE).
>
> Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be 
> doing
> this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year 
> old
> boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
> year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
> about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
> account <grin>.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Apr  4 23:14:07 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:14:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7UKFAAAQAAAAsvlcCz9Nb0q6/8ibTtZiCAEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Great news,
Best wishes! 


John B.


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr  4 23:15:32 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 00:15:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <044001c53993$ed4895a0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <000a01c53996$21551970$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

>My Indian name was 'Second Wind'.  Now you know why.

ROTFL

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:00 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


Well, good luck.  I am, as you know, an 'old Dad' too, 56 with an 8 year old

(also a 15 y.o.).

The best thing I ever did with both boys was the Indian Guides program 
through the YMCA.  Look into it.  They have separate programs for boys and 
girls.  It gives you exclusive time with the kid apart from their sibling.

My Indian name was 'Second Wind'.  Now you know why.


Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


>I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going 
>live".
>As
> many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the 
> cutest
> kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
> when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We 
> got
> Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.
>
> The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of 
> them will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in 
> less than 2 weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest 
> kids on two legs (well, they ARE).
>
> Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be
> doing
> this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year 
> old
> boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
> year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
> about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
> account <grin>.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Tue Apr  5 00:00:11 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:30:11 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code
References: <200504041632765.SM02892@ORSLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <006d01c5399c$67ab5410$b120f63d@winxp>

    You are most welcome Marcel!

A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marcel Vreuls 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 02:02
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code


  TNXS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  Just what I needed.

  Marcel
   
  -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
  Van: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] Namens A.D.Tejpal
  Verzonden: maandag 4 april 2005 5:08
  Aan: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Onderwerp: Re: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code

  Marcel,

      You should be able to obtain the required information directly from the modules collection.

      Sample sub-routine given below, will list all lines (along with names of respective modules) satisfying your criteria, in the immediate window. For your specific case, the following statement, calling this subroutine, will do the needful.
      P_GetMatchingCodeLines "MsgBox"

      Important - You have to set reference to Microsoft Visual Basic For Applications Extensibility 5.3

  A.D.Tejpal
  --------------

  ===================================
  Public Sub P_GetMatchingCodeLines(ByVal _
                                              MatchString As String)
      ' This needs reference to Microsoft Visual Basic
      ' For Applications Extensibility 5.3
      Dim mdc As Modules, md As Module
      Dim Cnt As Long, Lct As Long, Txt As String
      Dim DecLines As Long, ProcStLine As Long
      Dim ModName As String, PrName As String
      Dim ProcLine As Long
      
      Set mdc = Application.Modules
      ' Loop through all the modules in this collection
      For Cnt = 0 To mdc.Count - 1
          Set md = mdc(Cnt)
          ' Get name of module
          ModName = md.Name
          ' Get number of lines in declaration portion
          DecLines = md.CountOfDeclarationLines
          ' Loop through all the lines in this module
          For Lct = 1 To md.CountOfLines
              ' Get the contents of line Lct
              Txt = md.Lines(Lct, 1)
              If InStr(Txt, MatchString) > 0 Then
                  If md.Type = acStandardModule _
                                              Or InStr(ModName, _
                                              "Form_") > 0 Then    ' (A)
                      If Lct > DecLines Then                      ' (B)
                          ' Get name of procedure
                          ' (in which, line Lct is contained)
                          PrName = md.ProcOfLine(Lct, _
                                              vbext_pk_Proc)
                          ' Get starting Line No for this procedure
                          ProcStLine = md.ProcBodyLine(PrName, _
                                              vbext_pk_Proc)        ' (C)
                          ' Compute Line number as counted
                          ' from start of procedure
                          ProcLine = Lct - ProcStLine + 1
                      Else
                          PrName = "Declaration Sec"
                          ProcStLine = 1
                          ProcLine = Lct
                      End If
                  Else
                      PrName = "Class"
                      ProcStLine = 1
                      ProcLine = Lct
                  End If
                  Debug.Print "Mod - " & ModName & ",  Proc - " & _
                              PrName & ",  Line(ProcLine) - " & _
                              Lct & "(" & ProcLine & ")"
                  Debug.Print Space(6) & Trim(Txt)
              End If
          Next
      Next
      
      Set md = Nothing
      Set mdc = Nothing
      
      ' Note - (A) & (B) are needed so as to ensure that there is
      '              no mismatch of argument regarding assumed type
      '              of procedure ()
      '              (C) The value returned by md.ProcBodyLine() is
      '              more dependable as it gives the line number where
      '              the procedure actually starts. On the other hand,
      '              md.ProcStartLine() returns the first line after end
      '              of prev procedure. This can be misleading when
      '              there are one or more blank lines between
      '              adjacent procedures.
  End Sub
  ===================================

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Marcel Vreuls
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
    Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 14:25
    Subject: [AccessD] Collect information with vba code


    Dear Group,

    Just a quick question. Does someone know how I can collect all rows in
  vbacode where the function msgbox is stated and put this in the debug window
  or just drop in a file.

    Thanks in advance,

    Marcel



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  5 00:27:39 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 22:27:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
References: <000001c5398e$77cefbc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <425221CB.6060502@shaw.ca>

http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2004/07/23/192044.aspx
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/sql/
http://www.sql-server-express.com/
Watch out for difference between SQL DMO and newer SMO
SQL Server 2005 Express Documentation and Samples
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2adbc1a8-ae5c-497d-b584-eab6719300cd&DisplayLang=en

You will want the express manager replacement for EM
don't know if it is g\in Feb or March Beta release

http://www.aspfaq.com/sql2005/?show.asp?id=22

http://www.aspfaq.com/sql2005/?show.asp?id=24


http://www.aspfaq.com/sql2005/?show.asp?id=1

 

John W. Colby wrote:

>Is anyone working with SQL Server 2005 Express (beta) and VB Express (2005?)
>(beta)?
>
>I am interested in SQL Server 2005 express specifically because it appears
>to be a good match for smaller databases (all of my clients), and in
>particular my really small clients with just a handful of users up to
>perhaps 20 users.  I downloaded SQL and VB express tonight and am starting
>to eval it just to see where it is.   No idea the projected release dates.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
>  
>

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  5 00:50:40 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 22:50:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
In-Reply-To: <000001c5398e$77cefbc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IEG0036ZLKAP5@l-daemon>

Hi John:

I would love to start working with SQL Express but the package seems to at
opposition to either VB studio .Net or any other version of SQL... a real
pain. It seems to demand a machine specifically setup for it.

My two cents worth
Jim 

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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:21 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express

Is anyone working with SQL Server 2005 Express (beta) and VB Express (2005?)
(beta)?

I am interested in SQL Server 2005 express specifically because it appears
to be a good match for smaller databases (all of my clients), and in
particular my really small clients with just a handful of users up to
perhaps 20 users.  I downloaded SQL and VB express tonight and am starting
to eval it just to see where it is.   No idea the projected release dates.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  5 00:57:36 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 22:57:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IEG00A3OLVVGH@l-daemon>

Hi John:

I have a good friend and second cousin who had two more children at 60+ and
he has never been happier saying it is the one thing that keeps him so
young. This is all great news. Our kids are starting to tell me what to do
and how to do it... and they are no longer teenagers.

Good luck and prayers 
Jim

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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

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From JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com  Tue Apr  5 03:08:06 2005
From: JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com (JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 04:08:06 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] AXP fails to install
Message-ID: <105.5e3c27f0.2f83a166@aol.com>

Hi List
 
I've a runtime AXP db with WinXP SP1 and Office standard with SP2 which  have 
been working fine for weeks on 6 workstations running w2k. We buy 2 new  pc's 
with WinXP SP2 and now setup gives the message.

"The Office System  Pack cannot be installed on this system because the 
languages are not the same.  Install the Office System Pack for the appropriate 
language on your computer.  For assistance, contact your application provider."
 
Its not true, on the face of it. The languages are the same. I  installed 
WInXP SP2 on the 
developer pc with no joy. I've   installed Office XP developer on the pc in 
question logged on Administrator  run the runtime setup with same error 
message. I even ran the package wizard  over Northwind db and tried to install it. No 
change. I'm stuck,  suggestions please.

It there a registry setting that controlling the  job?

regards and TIA
johnb



From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Tue Apr  5 03:21:55 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:21:55 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C83188072257D0@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Congratulations to you and Mary, JC. :D
It sounds like you're having a lot of fun for all that it's hard work. I
think you're right though, it's tough at any age! None of my own, but I'm
very much looking forwards to becoming an aunt in June. All the advantages
and none (well, not much) of the responsibility!

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: 05 April 2005 04:39
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

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From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:32:46 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
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Sent: 05 April 2005 09:22
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life

Congratulations to you and Mary, JC. :D
It sounds like you're having a lot of fun for all that it's hard work. I
think you're right though, it's tough at any age! None of my own, but I'm
very much looking forwards to becoming an aunt in June. All the advantages
and none (well, not much) of the responsibility!

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Sent: 05 April 2005 04:39
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  5 03:41:37 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 10:41:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <s2526b75.057@cactus.dk>

Hi John

Here that would mean setting up a web camera in the bedroom ...

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 04/05 5:39 am >>>

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going
live". 



From david.powell at kcl.ac.uk  Tue Apr  5 03:51:41 2005
From: david.powell at kcl.ac.uk (david Powell)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:51:41 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
In-Reply-To: <0IEG0036ZLKAP5@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <200504050851.j358p3i22537@databaseadvisors.com>

This has been my experience - SQL Server 2005 Express requires a different
version of DotNet framework than that required for Visual Basic Express.  So
running both on the same machine will lead to complicatons.

I agree with Jim that it is best to use a separate machine.
Clearly this is a awkward and will probably be resolved when Beta 2 (as
opposed to community editions) is released.

David

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: 05 April 2005 06:51
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express

Hi John:

I would love to start working with SQL Express but the package seems to at
opposition to either VB studio .Net or any other version of SQL... a real
pain. It seems to demand a machine specifically setup for it.

My two cents worth
Jim 

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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express

Is anyone working with SQL Server 2005 Express (beta) and VB Express (2005?)
(beta)?

I am interested in SQL Server 2005 express specifically because it appears
to be a good match for smaller databases (all of my clients), and in
particular my really small clients with just a handful of users up to
perhaps 20 users.  I downloaded SQL and VB express tonight and am starting
to eval it just to see where it is.   No idea the projected release dates.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Apr  5 07:00:47 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 08:00:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <s2526b75.057@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000901c539d7$1dd13950$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

>I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live". 

>Here that would mean setting up a web camera in the bedroom ...


ROTFLBTC.

THAT ain't happening!

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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


Hi John

Here that would mean setting up a web camera in the bedroom ...

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 04/05 5:39 am >>>

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live". 

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From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:04:45 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Upsize wizard MDB to SQL
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B59A8@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

 
I need to migrate a MDB front and back to SQL server.
 
I tried the both the upsize wizard in MSA2K3 and the import wizard from
SQL server 2000.
But I found out that a lot of stuff are not migrated and renders the
application in a non useable state.
In some cases all the queries are missing, or primary keys and relations
are not set, to much various things missing to verify manualy.
 
I wonder if a commercial tool exists to do a better upsize that will
leave my database in a more or less workable state?
 
Personaly I would prefer a parralel migration.
 
All data in sql server, still using the regular front end but linked
tables to sql and first migrate my IIS-ASP website to .NET and later on
the (multiple) front end MDB.
 

 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  5 07:19:52 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:19:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
In-Reply-To: <20050405020935.53274.qmail@web41104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050405121955.RQQR1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, I hate to sound paranoid, but is it possible someone's been hacking?
There's nothing in Access that would do this -- someone's told it to. 

Do you have any routines that would display these filled in forms? Did you
create these forms?

Susan H. 

How come clients always find buttons to press that the programmer didn't
think of?
 
I have a program for a chain of Sunbed Studios. Because the clients can buy
packages of "units of use" and have them in credit it is necessary to give
them a PIN No. as well as a Membership Number.
 
When they enter their Membership Number and press <Continue> a popup/modal
with one field, in password format, asks them to enter their PIN. The only
other thing on the form is <Continue>. Magically, it has been discovered
that if they press Left Arrow a box appears with their Membership Number
and, much worse, if they press Right Arrow the PIN Number appears in clear.
 
I am now nearly bald!
 
Anyone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
 
TIA
 
Chris

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  5 07:19:52 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:19:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
In-Reply-To: <000001c5398e$77cefbc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050405122002.RQSI1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Yes, I'm working on a book. I haven't looked at VB Express yet. 

As to release date -- who knows? :( 

Unfortunately, in some areas it's not as powerful as MSDE was, but it is
still an excellent, and free, solution for the small guys. 

Susan H. 

Is anyone working with SQL Server 2005 Express (beta) and VB Express (2005?)
(beta)?

I am interested in SQL Server 2005 express specifically because it appears
to be a good match for smaller databases (all of my clients), and in
particular my really small clients with just a handful of users up to
perhaps 20 users.  I downloaded SQL and VB express tonight and am starting
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  5 07:19:52 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:19:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <000901c539d7$1dd13950$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050405122014.RQVC1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

With two kids, it's not like it would matter. ;) 

Congratulations, good luck and all that and God bless you all. ;) 

Susan H. 

>I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live". 

>Here that would mean setting up a web camera in the bedroom ...


ROTFLBTC.

THAT ain't happening!

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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


Hi John

Here that would mean setting up a web camera in the bedroom ...

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 04/05 5:39 am >>>

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live". 

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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 07:52:19 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 07:52:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <aea6c495050405055257cda603@mail.gmail.com>

Congratulations John and pass that sentiment along to Mary too. My dad
was 54 when I was born. He retired when I was about 12 so we were able
to spend more time together than a lot of other kids did with their
dads. My brother and I toasted him on what would have been his 100th
birthday in 2003. He wasn't there in body having passed away a few
years before, but he was there in our memories and in spirit.  And in
spirits as we toasted him with his preferred brand of whiskey.

On Apr 4, 2005 10:39 PM, John W. Colby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
> many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
> kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
> when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
> Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.
> 
> The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
> will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
> weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
> (well, they ARE).
> 
> Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
> this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
> boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
> year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
> about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
> account <grin>.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From normkara at wans.net  Tue Apr  5 07:57:38 2005
From: normkara at wans.net (Norm)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:57:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
References: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
	<aea6c495050405055257cda603@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c539df$0f46de00$0200a8c0@NORMLAPTOP>

Congrtulations!!! and best of luck and health to you all!! But take it from 
a 50 year old grandpa that is raising a 4 year old and a 2 year old 
grandson - it is worth it - you will have fun and everything will come 
natural (except maybe the outsmarting part) you will never win at that LOL! 
Best of luck! And may you all get the best out of life!
Norm

> Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be 
> doing
> this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year 
> old
> boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
> year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
> about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
> account <grin>.




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  5 08:03:58 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:03:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
Message-ID: <s252a8ff.071@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

What areas would that be?

/gustav

>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 04/05 2:19 pm >>>
Yes, I'm working on a book. I haven't looked at VB Express yet. 

As to release date -- who knows? :( 

Unfortunately, in some areas it's not as powerful as MSDE was, but it
is
still an excellent, and free, solution for the small guys. 



From EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us  Tue Apr  5 08:50:24 2005
From: EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us (Tesiny, Ed)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:50:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <FED384E544086A47AAC07C0999BE8D1703D507BA@albmsx2k.rt.oasas.state.ny.us>

>>Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be
doing
this (or it feels that way anyway)<<
Congratulations JC and Mary,
Don't worry, those cute kids will keep you young in body and spirit.
Best to all! 

Ed Tesiny
EdTesiny at oasas.state.ny.us
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> John W. Colby
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:39 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
> 
> I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are 
> "going live".  As
> many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of 
> two of the cutest
> kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got 
> Robbie first,
> when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last 
> week.  We got
> Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  
> 
> The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, 
> both of them
> will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So 
> in less than 2
> weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest 
> kids on two legs
> (well, they ARE).
> 
> Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned 
> old to be doing
> this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up 
> with a 4 year old
> boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even 
> outsmarting a 4
> year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in 
> my company in
> about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding 
> my retirement
> account <grin>.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Apr  5 08:55:33 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:55:33 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374DD@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Yup, the cuecat. Thanks for the link.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:46 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Home inventory problem


Are you talking about the CueCat?  A quick Google showed me this little
gem:
http://www.cedmagic.com/cuecat/cuecat.html

I still have one of those in my dusty ol' junk boxes.  I'm definitely
going to try this out!

(...and the CueCat goes down in the annals of history as one of the
poorest conceived technology ventures.  Yeech!)


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Home inventory problem

He could scan the ISBN barcode. I remember we had a discussion once
(couple of years ago?) about a cheapo scanner that was being given away
free- I got one from Forbes magazine as I recall. There was a great hack
with code to allow one to scan into Access. Hey, if you're going off the
deep end why not go all the way?!
Jim Hale 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 2:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Home inventory problem


Gustav,

I'm sure he's considered the time needed. I once "inventoried" all the
books in our house by category. I didn't list them, I just counted them.
No way would I want to record even just the titles in a database. But my
friend seems reconciled to it.

Steve Erbach

On Apr 4, 2005 3:29 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Steve
> 
> Has he considered the time needed to "record" these things??
> 
> I once listed all my vinyl records in a nice database as I planned to 
> sell them as a collection. Quickly I realized the amount of typing 
> work and persuaded (bought) my daughter to do this for sweet daddy. 
> She did but I wasn't proud.
> 
> So your friend should consider if it wasn't a better idea to 
> listen/watch/read items from his collection rather than spending a 
> vast amount of time recording it. Unless, of
 as suggested - write a list in Word.
> 
> Oh, I didn't sell the records ...
> 
> /gustav

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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr  5 09:19:16 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:19:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <s2526b75.057@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAQoq/PcVFvxGwrDa6FpkS7UKFAAAQAAAAeUFalovItkGiQFtV6QmKbAEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

Please post the IP address so I can have it auto-blocked by my firewall!
;-) 


John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life

Hi John

Here that would mean setting up a web camera in the bedroom ...

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 04/05 5:39 am >>>

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live". 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  5 09:23:04 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:23:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
In-Reply-To: <s252a8ff.071@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20050405142307.DXLZ2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Do you have it? If so, in BOL, do a search on "feature comparison" --
there's a good list of the differences. If you don't have it, I'll retype it
-- it's on another system that's not networked. 

Susan H. 

What areas would that be?

/gustav




From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr  5 09:28:25 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:28:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAWVdJ4mNWyE25lkPz8YTB6QEAAAAA@winhaven.net>

After the discussions we've had on Vonage and VOIP here I thought I'd better
post this. Just saw a report on TV about a fellow in Texas that tried to
call 911 while a breakin was occurring. Vonage doesn't do 911 in many places
and doesn't do enhanced 911 at all. Best to use you cell phone for that
then.

John B.


From jeff at boyes.net  Tue Apr  5 09:39:46 2005
From: jeff at boyes.net (Jeff Boyes)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 08:39:46 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7c
	KAAAAQAAAAWVdJ4mNWyE25lkPz8YTB6QEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAWVdJ4mNWyE25lkPz8YTB6QEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <64766.192.25.240.225.1112711986.squirrel@boyes.net>

John, et. al,

I agree.

I had Packet8, and now have Vonage, and I would have never considered
switching to any VoIP plan without keeping my cell phone for 911 calls.

I do have 911 dialing on my Vonage line, but it doesn't go to the local
city's 911 center.

Jeff


> After the discussions we've had on Vonage and VOIP here I thought I'd
> better
> post this. Just saw a report on TV about a fellow in Texas that tried to
> call 911 while a breakin was occurring. Vonage doesn't do 911 in many
> places
> and doesn't do enhanced 911 at all. Best to use you cell phone for that
> then.
>
> John B.



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  5 09:43:52 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:43:52 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
Message-ID: <s252c056.077@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

No I don't have it.
It is not this I'm thinking of:

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/2005/productinfo/sql2005features.asp 

- it's between 2005 Express and MSDE.

/gustav


>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 04/05 4:23 pm >>>
Do you have it? If so, in BOL, do a search on "feature comparison" --
there's a good list of the differences. If you don't have it, I'll
retype it
-- it's on another system that's not networked. 

Susan H. 

What areas would that be?

/gustav



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 10:26:19 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:26:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAWVdJ4mNWyE25lkPz8YTB6QEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAA7CpnX96k1hG4QgAgeBwU7cKAAAAQAAAAWVdJ4mNWyE25lkPz8YTB6QEAAAAA@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920504050826202741a0@mail.gmail.com>

On Apr 5, 2005 10:28 AM, John Bartow <john at winhaven.net> wrote:
> After the discussions we've had on Vonage and VOIP here I thought I'd better
> post this. Just saw a report on TV about a fellow in Texas that tried to
> call 911 while a breakin was occurring. Vonage doesn't do 911 in many places
> and doesn't do enhanced 911 at all. Best to use you cell phone for that
> then.

Yep have a look at some of the news stories from CNet news.com
http://news.search.com/search?q=vonage+911&search.x=0&search.y=0

This one, http://news.com.com/Vonage+may+route+911+call+to+Congress%2C+FCC/2100-7352_3-5647706.html
is quite interesting.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr  5 11:02:54 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:02:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687395F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Well, you could trap the KeyDown event on that form and discard the
left, right up, down and pageup and pagedown keycodes, couldn't you?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:10 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts


How come clients always find buttons to press that the programmer didn't
think of?
 
I have a program for a chain of Sunbed Studios. Because the clients can
buy packages of "units of use" and have them in credit it is necessary
to give them a PIN No. as well as a Membership Number.
 
When they enter their Membership Number and press <Continue> a
popup/modal with one field, in password format, asks them to enter their
PIN. The only other thing on the form is <Continue>. Magically, it has
been discovered that if they press Left Arrow a box appears with their
Membership Number and, much worse, if they press Right Arrow the PIN
Number appears in clear.
 
I am now nearly bald!
 
Anyone please tell me what I am doing wrong?
 
TIA
 
Chris

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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Apr  5 11:03:12 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:03:12 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1FA@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS SQL
Server 7 as the backend.

The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching our CAL
limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I actually got
SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server may not
be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.

With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
functionality of SQL Server?
I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored procedures
and triggers.

Thanks!
JR





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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  5 11:47:04 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:47:04 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
Message-ID: <s252dd4c.079@cactus.dk>

Hi Joe

Three option pops forward:

SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL). 
Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.

Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain. 
Originates from InterBase.

PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS. 
Large user base.

It all depends on your requirements.

/gustav


>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
Hi All,

I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS
SQL
Server 7 as the backend.

The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
our CAL
limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I actually
got
SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
may not
be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.

With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
functionality of SQL Server?
I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
procedures
and triggers.

Thanks!
JR



From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Tue Apr  5 12:22:42 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:22:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F215@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

Also, do the pre-911 thing: post a list of the 7 digit equivalent emergency numbers next to your phones.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Boyes
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:40 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vonage and 911


John, et. al,

I agree.

I had Packet8, and now have Vonage, and I would have never considered
switching to any VoIP plan without keeping my cell phone for 911 calls.

I do have 911 dialing on my Vonage line, but it doesn't go to the local
city's 911 center.

Jeff


> After the discussions we've had on Vonage and VOIP here I thought I'd
> better
> post this. Just saw a report on TV about a fellow in Texas that tried to
> call 911 while a breakin was occurring. Vonage doesn't do 911 in many
> places
> and doesn't do enhanced 911 at all. Best to use you cell phone for that
> then.
>
> John B.

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From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Tue Apr  5 12:39:51 2005
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:39:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687395C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <00ee01c53a06$791aee30$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>

Darren:

Charlotte's right: you can't undo a subform from the parent using an Access
control. But... you can trick Access Forms by adding a Microsoft Common
Controls Toolbar to your form. When you click on an ActiveX control in a
form, it DOESN'T fire the usual Access events, so you can very likely get a
subform Undo to work, if you place the button in a Toolbar.

Although some members of this forum recommend against all ActiveX controls,
I've used this one for years with no real issues. It isn't as problemmatic
as some of the other ActiveX controls I've tangled with.

-Ken

PS. I have some really simple button icons for toolbars that dress it up
nicely, with out too much effort. Email me offline if you'd like a copy,
plus some basic instructions.


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform


You can't do it simply, Darren.  When you click the button on the parent
form, the subform record is saved automatically, so undo is no longer
available.  The way I have done this in the past is either with an
unbound subform which can be cleared, by deleting the subform record, or
by storing the current value of each field to the field's tag property
and then overwriting the new value if the decided to "undo."

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Darren DICK [mailto:d.dick at uws.edu.au]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Undo Changes to a subform


Hello all
This should be simple :-))

If I type me.undo and attach it to a button on a form I can undo edits
to a record.

If I have a main form that has a sub form in it and if I attach code
something like Forms!MyForm!MySubForm.Form.Undo to a button on the main
form with the intention of Undo-ing any edit to the sub form it doesn't
seem to work

How do I undo edits to a sub form from a button on the parent form??

Many thanks

Darren




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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 12:45:27 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:45:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
In-Reply-To: <s252dd4c.079@cactus.dk>
References: <s252dd4c.079@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <b874372a05040510452a21a0a0@mail.gmail.com>

According to Arthur's new book, MySQL 4 would suit you just fine 
(production) but version 5 does support stored procedures and from skimming 
over that chapter it looks fairly easy to manage that path.

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:56:07 -0500, Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> Our MySQL book is now up as a web site. (Our = Peter Brawley and Arthur
> Fuller). Visit http://www.artfulsoftware.com/ for a free download of
> sample chapters and a paid download of the remainder. I hope you enjoy
> what you read for free.
>
> Arthur

my 2 cents.

On Apr 5, 2005 9:47 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Joe
> 
> Three option pops forward:
> 
> SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL).
> Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.
> 
> Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain.
> Originates from InterBase.
> 
> PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS.
> Large user base.
> 
> It all depends on your requirements.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
> Hi All,
> 
> I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
> We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS
> SQL
> Server 7 as the backend.
> 
> The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
> our CAL
> limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I actually
> got
> SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
> The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
> may not
> be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.
> 
> With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
> functionality of SQL Server?
> I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
> procedures
> and triggers.
> 
> Thanks!
> JR
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr  5 12:49:02 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:49:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E27@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed but you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include management tools though AFAIK.

Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere else!!)

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?


Hi Joe

Three option pops forward:

SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL). 
Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.

Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain. 
Originates from InterBase.

PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS. 
Large user base.

It all depends on your requirements.

/gustav


>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
Hi All,

I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS
SQL
Server 7 as the backend.

The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
our CAL
limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I actually
got
SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
may not
be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.

With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
functionality of SQL Server?
I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
procedures
and triggers.

Thanks!
JR

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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Apr  5 12:54:32 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:54:32 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1FB@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Are you allowed to use the Express version in a production environment?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?

What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed but
you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include management
tools though AFAIK.

Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere else!!)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?


Hi Joe

Three option pops forward:

SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL).
Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.

Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain.
Originates from InterBase.

PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS.
Large user base.

It all depends on your requirements.

/gustav


>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
Hi All,

I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS
SQL
Server 7 as the backend.

The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
our CAL
limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I actually
got
SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
may not
be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.

With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
functionality of SQL Server?
I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
procedures
and triggers.

Thanks!
JR

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr  5 12:55:00 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:55:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access Seminars
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E28@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Let me just say that I've found the Advisor events to be excellent.  I'll be at the LV event unless our recent budget cuts do me in.  One admission lets you in to all four conferences but only includes materials from whichever you sign up for.

Most of the other events seem to be VB/.NET/SQL focused.  Access stuff is not that common AFAIK.

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:17 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Access Seminars



Does anyone know of any Access Seminar/conference being conducted this summer?
I know there is one in Las Vegas in June, sponsored by ADVISOR.  It's a five day conference titled "Technical Education on Microsoft Software" with four areas of focus:  (1) Access/VB/SQL, (2) .Net, (3) SharePoint, and (4) Visual FoxPro.  

Any others?

Thanks,
Jim






 



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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr  5 12:59:31 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:59:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E2A@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

>>Does anyone have any thoughts on the other problem - manually selecting all 
records with
the mouse<<

How about filtering the form so only a subset of data is available at a time?

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A


Ah, I knew there would be a simple solution - Thanks Lonnie.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the other problem - manually selecting all records with
the mouse, then copying them to the clipboard.  I don't want to disable 
Ctrl-C because it is useful elsewhere in the programme.  Is there a way to check if records are selected (any number of records - not just all of them)?

David

At 1/04/2005, Lonnie wrote:
>You could use the autokeys macro to override the control A and send a 
>msgbox saying "Can't do that"
>
>David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:AXP
>
>One of my users has discovered that by selecting Ctrl-A this will select
>all records. Then he can copy, open up Excel and paste all the records
>into a spreadsheet. However, because of the sensitive nature of the data,
>Management do not want the full database to be available this way.
>
>How can I disable Ctrl-A so that all records cannot be selected. I have
>already removed from my custom menu the option to Select all records but
>Ctrl-A still works.
>
>Of course there is still the problem of manually selecting all records with
>the mouse - any thoughts on this problem as well?
>
>Regards
>
>David Emerson
>Dalyn Software Ltd
>25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
>Wellington, New Zealand
>Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
>Mobile 027-280-9348

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr  5 13:01:37 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:01:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
Message-ID: <s252eec2.082@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Oh, myy suggestions are only that - not an inclusive list.

/gustav

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/05 7:49 pm >>>
What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed
but you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include
management tools though AFAIK.

Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere
else!!)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?


Hi Joe

Three option pops forward:

SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL). 
Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.

Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain. 
Originates from InterBase.

PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS. 
Large user base.

It all depends on your requirements.

/gustav


>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
Hi All,

I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use
MS
SQL Server 7 as the backend.

The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
our CAL limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I
actually
got SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
may not be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.

With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
functionality of SQL Server?
I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
procedures and triggers.

Thanks!
JR



From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Apr  5 13:23:22 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 06:23:22 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E2A@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.co m>
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E2A@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050406061844.039b8eb0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks Jim,

Another good thought - I could just have the search boxes and show records 
as they match the criteria.  However the way we have solved it this time is 
to remove the record selectors.  Now with no record selectors, Ctrl-A being 
cancelled by Autokeys, and Select all records not appearing in the menu I 
think we have covered all bases.

David

At 6/04/2005, you wrote:
> >>Does anyone have any thoughts on the other problem - manually selecting 
> all
>records with
>the mouse<<
>
>How about filtering the form so only a subset of data is available at a time?
>
>HTH,
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
>Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:11 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A
>
>
>Ah, I knew there would be a simple solution - Thanks Lonnie.
>
>Does anyone have any thoughts on the other problem - manually selecting 
>all records with
>the mouse, then copying them to the clipboard.  I don't want to disable
>Ctrl-C because it is useful elsewhere in the programme.  Is there a way to 
>check if records are selected (any number of records - not just all of them)?
>
>David
>
>At 1/04/2005, Lonnie wrote:
> >You could use the autokeys macro to override the control A and send a
> >msgbox saying "Can't do that"
> >
> >David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:AXP
> >
> >One of my users has discovered that by selecting Ctrl-A this will select
> >all records. Then he can copy, open up Excel and paste all the records
> >into a spreadsheet. However, because of the sensitive nature of the data,
> >Management do not want the full database to be available this way.
> >
> >How can I disable Ctrl-A so that all records cannot be selected. I have
> >already removed from my custom menu the option to Select all records but
> >Ctrl-A still works.
> >
> >Of course there is still the problem of manually selecting all records with
> >the mouse - any thoughts on this problem as well?
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >David Emerson
> >Dalyn Software Ltd
> >25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
> >Wellington, New Zealand
> >Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
> >Mobile 027-280-9348



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  5 13:34:55 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:34:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
In-Reply-To: <s252c056.077@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20050405183458.OCIC2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

The biggest difference is in replication:

Configuring Distribution	Express: No	MSDE: Yes
Snapshot Publications		Express: No MSDE: Yes
Merge Publications		Express: No MSDE: Yes

Some replication features are available but only as a subscriber. 

No SQL Agent, which is a pia. :( 

On the other hand, Express isn't "optimized" :) 

There are more, but I can't think of them. 

Susan H. 

Hi Susan

No I don't have it.
It is not this I'm thinking of:

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/2005/productinfo/sql2005features.asp 

- it's between 2005 Express and MSDE.

/gustav


>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 04/05 4:23 pm >>>
Do you have it? If so, in BOL, do a search on "feature comparison" --
there's a good list of the differences. If you don't have it, I'll retype it
-- it's on another system that's not networked. 

Susan H. 

What areas would that be?

/gustav

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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Apr  5 13:42:17 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:42:17 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A1FD@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

It appears that there is no notification service either!
JR


-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:35 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express

The biggest difference is in replication:

Configuring Distribution        Express: No     MSDE: Yes
Snapshot Publications           Express: No MSDE: Yes
Merge Publications              Express: No MSDE: Yes

Some replication features are available but only as a subscriber.

No SQL Agent, which is a pia. :(

On the other hand, Express isn't "optimized" :)

There are more, but I can't think of them.

Susan H.

Hi Susan

No I don't have it.
It is not this I'm thinking of:

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/2005/productinfo/sql2005features.asp

- it's between 2005 Express and MSDE.

/gustav


>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 04/05 4:23 pm >>>
Do you have it? If so, in BOL, do a search on "feature comparison" --
there's a good list of the differences. If you don't have it, I'll retype it
-- it's on another system that's not networked.

Susan H.

What areas would that be?

/gustav

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From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Tue Apr  5 13:49:08 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:49:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ASP/SQL/Access job posting
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC04F37A@dewey.Symphony.local>

I hope this isn't too off topic, but here's a job posting.

Symphony Information Services is a custom software shop that has
historically done the vast majority of its development in Access.  But
similar to how the flavor of AccessD postings have evolved over the
years, we find ourselves spending increasingly more time with a web
work, which in turn leads to more SQL work.  So, we're hiring someone
whose primary skill set is in ASP.NET over SQL Server, but who still
have firm grip on Access.  

The job posting is at www.symphonyinfo.com/jobs/webdev.pdf.  Preference
will go to someone located in the Minneapolis / St. Paul area, due to
the tighter teamwork it provides, but I won't dismiss a remote options
out of hand.

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com



From jeff at boyes.net  Tue Apr  5 13:52:55 2005
From: jeff at boyes.net (Jeff Boyes)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:52:55 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
In-Reply-To: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F215@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F215@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <12220.192.25.240.225.1112727175.squirrel@boyes.net>


Great idea! Thanks.


> Also, do the pre-911 thing: post a list of the 7 digit equivalent
> emergency numbers next to your phones.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Boyes
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:40 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
>
>
> John, et. al,
>
> I agree.
>
> I had Packet8, and now have Vonage, and I would have never considered
> switching to any VoIP plan without keeping my cell phone for 911 calls.
>
> I do have 911 dialing on my Vonage line, but it doesn't go to the local
> city's 911 center.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>> After the discussions we've had on Vonage and VOIP here I thought I'd
>> better
>> post this. Just saw a report on TV about a fellow in Texas that tried to
>> call 911 while a breakin was occurring. Vonage doesn't do 911 in many
>> places
>> and doesn't do enhanced 911 at all. Best to use you cell phone for that
>> then.
>>
>> John B.



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr  5 14:51:43 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:51:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E2C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Just throwing it out there as another option Gustav.

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:02 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?


Hi Jim

Oh, myy suggestions are only that - not an inclusive list.

/gustav

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/05 7:49 pm >>>
What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed
but you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include
management tools though AFAIK.

Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere
else!!)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?


Hi Joe

Three option pops forward:

SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL). 
Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.

Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain. 
Originates from InterBase.

PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS. 
Large user base.

It all depends on your requirements.

/gustav


>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
Hi All,

I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use
MS
SQL Server 7 as the backend.

The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
our CAL limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I
actually
got SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
may not be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.

With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
functionality of SQL Server?
I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
procedures and triggers.

Thanks!
JR

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr  5 14:53:23 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:53:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E2D@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

I believe it's the replacement for MSDE so I'd guess yes.

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?


Are you allowed to use the Express version in a production environment?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim DeMarco [mailto:Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?

What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed but
you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include management
tools though AFAIK.

Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere else!!)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?


Hi Joe

Three option pops forward:

SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL).
Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.

Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain.
Originates from InterBase.

PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS.
Large user base.

It all depends on your requirements.

/gustav


>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
Hi All,

I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS
SQL
Server 7 as the backend.

The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
our CAL
limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I actually
got
SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
may not
be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.

With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
functionality of SQL Server?
I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
procedures
and triggers.

Thanks!
JR

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  5 16:29:26 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:29:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] AXP fails to install
References: <105.5e3c27f0.2f83a166@aol.com>
Message-ID: <42530336.6060002@shaw.ca>

My guess is you have differing english language versions than standard US
Here are some hints to get you started.

There is an an SP3 but it mostly security updates
Office XP Service Pack 3 (SP3)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=85af7bfd-6f69-4289-8bd1-eb966bcdfb5e&displaylang=en

Office XP Developer Edition Service Pack 1
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a5272cd8-72b4-4a23-8c21-2d8569e102c0&DisplayLang=en

Packaging Wizard Patch Office XP
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=f0f245fd-184c-4125-afb7-3c48e2607f99&DisplayLang=en

These patches above may fix

Office Developers pack SP1  and wizard patch is supposed to fix this
 as a workaround you can set
your regional settings on the target PC to US  when installing.
then boot,  install package, boot,  reset to original language,
run package.


When you create the installation package
a file called setup.lst is created. There is a locale ID defined in here
which I found to be 1033 (English - US).
If you were to change this to English - UK  Number: 2057
or what ever version of english you are using then
it might work
.
Another way

1) Change the regional settings to English US.


2) Manually run "osp.msi" which is included in the runtime directory
of the deployment cd. This effectively upgrades the users machine in
the same way  that the installation routine should.  After the osp.msi
file has installed, you can then run the setup routine again and the
fault will not occur.

SageKey scripts handles these problems,
http://www.sagekey.com

 as it can get more complicated
with installations with multilanguage packs with windows (allows US 
version of Windows to run Japanese which is different than Japanese 
Version of windows)
and office.



JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com wrote:

>Hi List
> 
>I've a runtime AXP db with WinXP SP1 and Office standard with SP2 which  have 
>been working fine for weeks on 6 workstations running w2k. We buy 2 new  pc's 
>with WinXP SP2 and now setup gives the message.
>
>"The Office System  Pack cannot be installed on this system because the 
>languages are not the same.  Install the Office System Pack for the appropriate 
>language on your computer.  For assistance, contact your application provider."
> 
>Its not true, on the face of it. The languages are the same. I  installed 
>WInXP SP2 on the 
>developer pc with no joy. I've   installed Office XP developer on the pc in 
>question logged on Administrator  run the runtime setup with same error 
>message. I even ran the package wizard  over Northwind db and tried to install it. No 
>change. I'm stuck,  suggestions please.
>
>It there a registry setting that controlling the  job?
>
>regards and TIA
>johnb
>
>  
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  5 17:08:02 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:08:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E27@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <42530C42.80603@shaw.ca>

The EM Tools came out a little later. Works with December release of 
Beta SQL Express 2005.

Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Manager - Community Technology Preview 
December 2004
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8f92556a-6c3b-47d2-9929-ecdc5a4d25ae&DisplayLang=en

The SAP DB or MaxDB is being supported by SAP Labs Berlin either 
purchased or newsgroup 24 hour turnaround.
It is really an old ADABAS database code fork upgraded.. A .Net oledb 
provider is supposed to be in the works.
I guess who ever writes it wants paid for the effort.
Otherwise ODBC.

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed but you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include management tools though AFAIK.
>
>Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere else!!)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
>
>
>Hi Joe
>
>Three option pops forward:
>
>SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL). 
>Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.
>
>Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain. 
>Originates from InterBase.
>
>PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS. 
>Large user base.
>
>It all depends on your requirements.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
>>>>JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>Hi All,
>
>I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
>We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS
>SQL
>Server 7 as the backend.
>
>The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching
>our CAL
>limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I actually
>got
>SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
>The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server
>may not
>be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.
>
>With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the
>functionality of SQL Server?
>I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored
>procedures
>and triggers.
>
>Thanks!
>JR
>
>  
>

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 17:35:22 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:35:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
In-Reply-To: <12220.192.25.240.225.1112727175.squirrel@boyes.net>
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F215@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
	<12220.192.25.240.225.1112727175.squirrel@boyes.net>
Message-ID: <b874372a05040515353f95c861@mail.gmail.com>

I'm sure you know that what happend in Texas not dialing out the 911 was due 
to user error. When you sign up for Vonage you must register your locality 
so that 911 calls can be routed. The person in the story failed to do 
that... as we know in our line of work it was a pebkac.


On Apr 5, 2005 11:52 AM, Jeff Boyes <jeff at boyes.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Great idea! Thanks.
> 
> 
> > Also, do the pre-911 thing: post a list of the 7 digit equivalent
> > emergency numbers next to your phones.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Boyes
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:40 AM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Vonage and 911
> >
> >
> > John, et. al,
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> > I had Packet8, and now have Vonage, and I would have never considered
> > switching to any VoIP plan without keeping my cell phone for 911 calls.
> >
> > I do have 911 dialing on my Vonage line, but it doesn't go to the local
> > city's 911 center.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> >> After the discussions we've had on Vonage and VOIP here I thought I'd
> >> better
> >> post this. Just saw a report on TV about a fellow in Texas that tried 
> to
> >> call 911 while a breakin was occurring. Vonage doesn't do 911 in many
> >> places
> >> and doesn't do enhanced 911 at all. Best to use you cell phone for that
> >> then.
> >>
> >> John B.
> 
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From JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com  Tue Apr  5 17:36:53 2005
From: JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com (JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:36:53 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] AXP fails to install
Message-ID: <64.526d3609.2f846d05@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 05/04/2005 22:34:11 GMT Daylight Time,  
martyconnelly at shaw.ca writes:

My guess  is you have differing english language versions than standard US
Here are  some hints to get you started.

There is an an SP3 but it mostly  security updates
Office XP Service Pack 3  (SP3)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=85af7bfd-6f69-4289-8b
d1-eb966bcdfb5e&displaylang=en

Office  XP Developer Edition Service Pack  1
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a5272cd8-72b4-4a23-8c
21-2d8569e102c0&DisplayLang=en

Packaging  Wizard Patch Office  XP
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=f0f245fd-184c-4125-af
b7-3c48e2607f99&DisplayLang=en

These  patches above may fix

Office Developers pack SP1  and wizard patch  is supposed to fix this
as a workaround you can set
your regional  settings on the target PC to US  when installing.
then boot,   install package, boot,  reset to original language,
run  package.


When you create the installation package
a file called  setup.lst is created. There is a locale ID defined in here
which I found to  be 1033 (English - US).
If you were to change this to English - UK   Number: 2057
or what ever version of english you are using then
it might  work
.
Another way

1) Change the regional settings to English  US.


2) Manually run "osp.msi" which is included in the runtime  directory
of the deployment cd. This effectively upgrades the users machine  in
the same way  that the installation routine should.  After the  osp.msi
file has installed, you can then run the setup routine again and  the
fault will not occur.

SageKey scripts handles these  problems,
http://www.sagekey.com

as it can get more  complicated
with installations with multilanguage packs with windows  (allows US 
version of Windows to run Japanese which is different than  Japanese 
Version of windows)
and  office.




Cheers Marty and thanx for the pointers.


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr  5 17:37:15 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:37:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
In-Reply-To: <42530C42.80603@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <20050405223718.BNQM2051.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

There's almost nothing in them, but it does exist. ;) 

Susan H. 

The EM Tools came out a little later. Works with December release of Beta
SQL Express 2005.

Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Manager - Community Technology Preview
December 2004
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8f92556a-6c3b-47d2-
9929-ecdc5a4d25ae&DisplayLang=en

The SAP DB or MaxDB is being supported by SAP Labs Berlin either purchased
or newsgroup 24 hour turnaround.
It is really an old ADABAS database code fork upgraded.. A .Net oledb
provider is supposed to be in the works.
I guess who ever writes it wants paid for the effort.
Otherwise ODBC.

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed but
you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include management
tools though AFAIK.
>
>Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere 
>else!!)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
>
>
>Hi Joe
>
>Three option pops forward:
>
>SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL). 
>Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.
>
>Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain. 
>Originates from InterBase.
>
>PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS. 
>Large user base.
>
>It all depends on your requirements.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
>>>>JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>Hi All,
>
>I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
>We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS 
>SQL Server 7 as the backend.
>
>The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching 
>our CAL limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I 
>actually got SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
>The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server 
>may not be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.
>
>With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the 
>functionality of SQL Server?
>I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored 
>procedures and triggers.
>
>Thanks!
>JR
>
>  
>

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From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Tue Apr  5 18:04:02 2005
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:04:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express
In-Reply-To: <s252c056.077@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <010001c53a33$c2b40d10$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


>From the site Marty suggested:

"How does SQL Server 2005 Express compare to MSDE?"

http://www.aspfaq.com/sql2005/show.asp?id=8

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 9:44 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visual Basic Express


Hi Susan

No I don't have it.
It is not this I'm thinking of:

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/2005/productinfo/sql2005features.asp 

- it's between 2005 Express and MSDE.

/gustav


>>> ssharkins at bellsouth.net 04/05 4:23 pm >>>
Do you have it? If so, in BOL, do a search on "feature comparison" --
there's a good list of the differences. If you don't have it, I'll
retype it
-- it's on another system that's not networked. 

Susan H. 

What areas would that be?

/gustav






From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 18:28:05 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:28:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Upsize wizard MDB to SQL
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B59A8@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B59A8@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <b874372a05040516286496cdd7@mail.gmail.com>

You can't migrate the FE to SQL Server per say, IIRC I guess that would be 
and ADP upgrade so that Access looks and reacts kinda like the Access we all 
know and hate ;). I think it was Arthur who would say this, you want to 
first take all your listboxes and combo boxes and make "TRUE" queries for 
their sources rather than the select statment currently lying in there... if 
you do not the upgrade wizard creates it's ow w/ some funky GUIDs for 
names... 

If you want to continue using the MDB as an FE then you won't need to change 
very much.. .in fact you can take it in phases... first create some VIEWs to 
feed the table links, and then eventually write your own passthrough queries 
so that you can leverage the power of your sql server db.

I hope this gives you a good starting point.



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wrote:
> 
> 
> I need to migrate a MDB front and back to SQL server.
> 
> I tried the both the upsize wizard in MSA2K3 and the import wizard from
> SQL server 2000.
> But I found out that a lot of stuff are not migrated and renders the
> application in a non useable state.
> In some cases all the queries are missing, or primary keys and relations
> are not set, to much various things missing to verify manualy.
> 
> I wonder if a commercial tool exists to do a better upsize that will
> leave my database in a more or less workable state?
> 
> Personaly I would prefer a parralel migration.
> 
> All data in sql server, still using the regular front end but linked
> tables to sql and first migrate my IIS-ASP website to .NET and later on
> the (multiple) front end MDB.
> 
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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  5 18:47:55 2005
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:47:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050405234756.64019.qmail@web41105.mail.yahoo.com>

Susan, 
 
Apologies for what appears to be a late reply but when I send my emails, you are asleep, I presume , and when you send yours I'm in the land of nod.
 
When I was told about the problem I checked my master program and horror, it was true.
 
Just a little more background info. If the client says they have used the facility before the program goes to frmCustomers and asks them to enter either their Membership Number or their Name. When they enter one or the other the form brings up all their details. They press <Continue> and the popup/modal form frmEnterPIN is displayed.
The form has a textbox "Please enter your PIN", a box for them to enter it and a <Continue> button. Nothing else! 
The Record Source is qryCustomers and the Filter is on Membership Number.
However, if you press the Right Arrow, a sunken box appears on the left showing their Membership Number. No problem! However, press the Left Arrow and a ditto box appears on the right showing the PIN Number in clear even though it is stored in the BE as password/asterisks. Continuous pressing of either arrow just tabs between the blank box, the Membership Number and the PIN. No other field from the record is shown.
 
Charlotte, 
 
I would love to trap the KeyDown event on the form and discard the left, right up, down and pageup and pagedown keycodes! How?
 
Chris
 
 

		
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Apr  5 19:10:29 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:10:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
References: <20050405223718.BNQM2051.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <425328F5.9060305@shaw.ca>

Maybe due to the switch from SQL-DMO to SQL-SMO which the old EM is based on

http://www.windowsitpro.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=40993&DisplayTab=Article

http://www.sql-server-express.com/index.html

Series of 5 or 6 Articles on using SQL-SMO with Express
example code in VBScript VB.Net C#.Net
So you could easily translate VBScript to Access VBA
list at bottom of article
http://www.sqldbatips.com/showarticle.asp?ID=34
Along with this is a command utility for SQL maintenance ExpressMaint 
Utility
http://www.sqldbatips.com/showarticle.asp?ID=29
 

Susan Harkins wrote:

>There's almost nothing in them, but it does exist. ;) 
>
>Susan H. 
>
>The EM Tools came out a little later. Works with December release of Beta
>SQL Express 2005.
>
>Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Manager - Community Technology Preview
>December 2004
>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=8f92556a-6c3b-47d2-
>9929-ecdc5a4d25ae&DisplayLang=en
>
>The SAP DB or MaxDB is being supported by SAP Labs Berlin either purchased
>or newsgroup 24 hour turnaround.
>It is really an old ADABAS database code fork upgraded.. A .Net oledb
>provider is supposed to be in the works.
>I guess who ever writes it wants paid for the effort.
>Otherwise ODBC.
>
>Jim DeMarco wrote:
>
>  
>
>>What about SQL Express?  The throttling limitations have been removed but
>>    
>>
>you're limited to 3-4 GB file size.  This version doesn't include management
>tools though AFAIK.
>  
>
>>Jim DeMarco (fresh from vacation and still wishing I were somewhere 
>>else!!)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Slightly OT: Know of a good Open Source DBMS?
>>
>>
>>Hi Joe
>>
>>Three option pops forward:
>>
>>SAP DB (totally free) or the newer MaxDB (from MySQL). 
>>Enterprise level (certified for SAP R/3) and complexity.
>>
>>Firebird. Very small install package, very easy to maintain. 
>>Originates from InterBase.
>>
>>PostgreSQL. Widely used "Oracle Light" DBMS. 
>>Large user base.
>>
>>It all depends on your requirements.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/05 6:03 pm >>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I was considering purchasing MS SQL Server 2000 for our company.
>>We have several intranet web based applications, which currently use MS 
>>SQL Server 7 as the backend.
>>
>>The reason that I am considering the upgrade is that we are reaching 
>>our CAL limit. I know that I could increase the number of CALs, but I 
>>actually got SQL 2000 approved in this year's budget!
>>The problem is that I have the feeling that the price for SQL Server 
>>may not be justifiable, in my mind, for what we are using it for.
>>
>>With that said, does anyone know of an Open Source DBMS that has the 
>>functionality of SQL Server?
>>I know of MySQL, but when I last checked, it did not have stored 
>>procedures and triggers.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>JR
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>--
>Marty Connelly
>Victoria, B.C.
>Canada
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada




From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Tue Apr  5 19:24:22 2005
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:24:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050406061844.039b8eb0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <001601c53a3e$fb7d6690$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


David,

>Is there a way to check if records are selected
>(any number of records - not just all of them)?

You can always use the Form's SelHeight property:

    If Me.SelHeight = 1 Then
        ' User has selected a single row
    ...

That way, when you trap Ctrl-C, you could allow it for one row, but not
many. You can then allow record selectors, if your users find them useful.

-Ken

PS: Be sure to disable any shortcut (right-click) menus by setting the
Shortcut Menu property to No, or providing your own shortcut menu that
either excludes Cut & Copy, or replaces them with a calls to your custom
functions.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Emerson [mailto:newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A


Thanks Jim,

Another good thought - I could just have the search boxes and show records
as they match the criteria.  However the way we have solved it this time is
to remove the record selectors.  Now with no record selectors, Ctrl-A being
cancelled by Autokeys, and Select all records not appearing in the menu I
think we have covered all bases.

David






From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr  5 19:54:08 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:54:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
In-Reply-To: <20050405234756.64019.qmail@web41105.mail.yahoo.com>
References: 6667
Message-ID: <4253BFD0.15135.1336E8E7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 5 Apr 2005 at 16:47, Chris Enright wrote:

> Just a little more background info. If the client says they have used the facility before the
> program goes to frmCustomers and asks them to enter either their Membership Number or their
> Name. When they enter one or the other the form brings up all their details. They press
> <Continue> and the popup/modal form frmEnterPIN is displayed.
> The form has a textbox "Please enter your PIN", a box for them to enter it and a <Continue>
> button. Nothing else! 
> The Record Source is qryCustomers and the Filter is on Membership Number.
> However, if you press the Right Arrow, a sunken box appears on the left showing their Membership
> Number. No problem! However, press the Left Arrow and a ditto box appears on the right showing
> the PIN Number in clear even though it is stored in the BE as password/asterisks. Continuous
> pressing of either arrow just tabs between the blank box, the Membership Number and the PIN. No
> other field from the record is shown.
>  

You've got me intrigued.

Impossible to say what is happening without a closer look. Can you copy 
frmCustomers and frmEnterPIN into a blank database and put is somewhere 
accessible for download or email me a copy.  



-- 
Stuart




From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Apr  5 20:25:45 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:25:45 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A
In-Reply-To: <001601c53a3e$fb7d6690$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050406061844.039b8eb0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<001601c53a3e$fb7d6690$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050406132424.03388b80@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks Ken - that was the answer I was looking for.

David

At 6/04/2005, you wrote:

>David,
>
> >Is there a way to check if records are selected
> >(any number of records - not just all of them)?
>
>You can always use the Form's SelHeight property:
>
>     If Me.SelHeight = 1 Then
>         ' User has selected a single row
>     ...
>
>That way, when you trap Ctrl-C, you could allow it for one row, but not
>many. You can then allow record selectors, if your users find them useful.
>
>-Ken
>
>PS: Be sure to disable any shortcut (right-click) menus by setting the
>Shortcut Menu property to No, or providing your own shortcut menu that
>either excludes Cut & Copy, or replaces them with a calls to your custom
>functions.



From shait at mindspring.com  Tue Apr  5 23:19:55 2005
From: shait at mindspring.com (Stephen Hait)
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:19:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <42531D1B.12344.6D21158@localhost>


> I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going
> live".  

Great news, John. I'm yet another 'older dad' at 53 and am 
raising, with my wife, a lovely 3 year old daughter we adopted 
when she was 5 months. All the best of luck with the adoption 
procedure and the bit about your 4 year old padding your 
retirement account!

Regards,
Stephen
Stephen Hait <shait at mindspring.com>
Text mail preferred over HTML mail if possible



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr  6 03:42:27 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:42:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A
Message-ID: <s253bd31.084@cactus.dk>

Hi Ken

And with Me.SelTop you can even move the record selector (current
record) up and down ...

/gustav

>>> KIsmert at TexasSystems.com 04/06 2:24 am >>>

David,

>Is there a way to check if records are selected
>(any number of records - not just all of them)?

You can always use the Form's SelHeight property:

    If Me.SelHeight = 1 Then
        ' User has selected a single row
    ...

That way, when you trap Ctrl-C, you could allow it for one row, but
not
many. You can then allow record selectors, if your users find them
useful.

-Ken

PS: Be sure to disable any shortcut (right-click) menus by setting the
Shortcut Menu property to No, or providing your own shortcut menu that
either excludes Cut & Copy, or replaces them with a calls to your
custom
functions.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Emerson [mailto:newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Disabling Ctrl-A


Thanks Jim,

Another good thought - I could just have the search boxes and show
records
as they match the criteria.  However the way we have solved it this
time is
to remove the record selectors.  Now with no record selectors, Ctrl-A
being
cancelled by Autokeys, and Select all records not appearing in the menu
I
think we have covered all bases.

David



From gould.j at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  6 06:29:19 2005
From: gould.j at earthlink.net (J Gould)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:29:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1DJ8iv-0001V9-00@pop-a065d01.pas.sa.earthlink.net>

Steve,

I may be a bit late on this, but if the fields for his collections are
basically the same, then use a master form that is not tied to any
particular database. Then use SQL to populate a view form. I did this with a
program several years ago where we had two databases of programs that were
being run on a mainframe. It tracked the ownership, description of what the
programs did, when the programs were run and other details. It takes a bit
of work, but it eliminates a ton of redundant programming for each tab (in
this case). The main form is like a switchboard that the user would select
the table they want to see. The view form is then loaded based on sql from a
hidden field on the switchboard. What's nice about doing this, is once you
have the basics down on it, its very easy to create a search form that
allows you to filter the records returned on the view form. Also, then one
or two reports are all that's needed based again on the sql used to display
the view form. Although the initial programming may take a bit longer, you
save a ton of time by not having to reinvent the wheel at every turn.

Hth

John Gould


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 8:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem

Dear Group,

A friend who's pretty sharp on computers (PHP development and a fair
amount of VB.NET) asked me to help him figure out a way to handle his
home inventory. He has LPs, Books, video cassettes, etc., half a dozen
different categories in all of things he wants to record in tables. So
far he's made an individual collection table for each type of item:
Books, LPs, Videos, etc.

His question was how to make a master table that had common
information in it -- purchase date, purchase price, location in house,
and category. He was also trying to figure out a way to have a big
master form, perhaps with a tab object, and subforms for all the
tables containing his collections.

I admit that I was a bit stumped. It's easy enough to determine that
the master table should have, say, an AutoNumber key field for each
item in his entire home inventory and that the individual item tables
would link to the master through a foreign key or simply with a Long
Integer field containing the Master key. But there would be a
one-to-one link between the master and the collection tables.

But what he'd like to do is see multiple rows for each of his
collection items at the same time. This implies that the subforms
would NOT be linked to the master. If they WERE linked to the master,
then only ONE item from ONE collection table would show up.

Have you lot ever tried something like this? His notion is that if the
Master table contains the location for each item then he can easily
query the master to find all the items in, say, the upstairs closet.
But then creating a report or a query might be a struggle since he
could conceivably have items from six different collections in that
closet...or only four of the collections.

I think you get the drift. Each collection has enough unique
information that keeping the items in separate tables makes sense, but
pulling all the information together to make an inventory valuation
might be a chore. Any ideas?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Wed Apr  6 07:01:51 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:01:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F25@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F25@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30504060501511f7a2@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

Et tu, Brute? My God! I'm surrounded by flower children!

Steve Erbach

On Apr 4, 2005 3:40 PM, Jim Hewson <JHewson at karta.com> wrote:
> They do have a point though.
> Sometimes the simplest or non-technical solution is the best.
> I have spent hours - days - no weeks on a database and gave it to the customer.  Only to have them decide it's too much work to enter the data and maintain.  So the database became a throw-away sample.  At least I got paid for it... besides as Rocky suggested - there can be a fun side of doing things.
> 
> Jim H.
>


From erbachs at gmail.com  Wed Apr  6 07:03:14 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:03:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374DB@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374DB@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305040605036c38ca88@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

Why not! I wonder if there's something like CDDB for ISBN numbers?

Steve Erbach

On Apr 4, 2005 4:01 PM, Hale, Jim <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:
> He could scan the ISBN barcode. I remember we had a discussion once (couple
> of years ago?) about a cheapo scanner that was being given away free- I got
> one from Forbes magazine as I recall. There was a great hack with code to
> allow one to scan into Access. Hey, if you're going off the deep end why not
> go all the way?!
> Jim Hale


From erbachs at gmail.com  Wed Apr  6 07:08:56 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:08:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <E1DJ8iv-0001V9-00@pop-a065d01.pas.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<E1DJ8iv-0001V9-00@pop-a065d01.pas.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305040605084bb5594@mail.gmail.com>

John,

This is more like it! No, you're not too late. I'm just surrounded by
San Francisco flower children in a marijuana haze!

I'm not sure how similar the bits of data are that my friend is
recording. I suppose that your method could also, quite simply, hide
one subform and show another.

Thanks,

Steve Erbach

On Apr 6, 2005 6:29 AM, J Gould <gould.j at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> I may be a bit late on this, but if the fields for his collections are
> basically the same, then use a master form that is not tied to any
> particular database. Then use SQL to populate a view form. I did this with a
> program several years ago where we had two databases of programs that were
> being run on a mainframe. It tracked the ownership, description of what the
> programs did, when the programs were run and other details. It takes a bit
> of work, but it eliminates a ton of redundant programming for each tab (in
> this case). The main form is like a switchboard that the user would select
> the table they want to see. The view form is then loaded based on sql from a
> hidden field on the switchboard. What's nice about doing this, is once you
> have the basics down on it, its very easy to create a search form that
> allows you to filter the records returned on the view form. Also, then one
> or two reports are all that's needed based again on the sql used to display
> the view form. Although the initial programming may take a bit longer, you
> save a ton of time by not having to reinvent the wheel at every turn.
> 
> Hth
> 
> John Gould


From gould.j at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  6 08:09:12 2005
From: gould.j at earthlink.net (J Gould)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:09:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f305040605084bb5594@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1DJAHb-00065O-00@pop-a065d01.pas.sa.earthlink.net>

IF the subform were also based on a query then why hide it at all. The data
changes based on the table selected in the query. The query here is what
would change, the subform would simply bring up data based on it. The trick
is to have the PK the same in all tables ... an autonumber field that
basically means nothing to anyone but the database.

Good luck with it !

John Gould

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 8:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Home inventory problem

John,

This is more like it! No, you're not too late. I'm just surrounded by
San Francisco flower children in a marijuana haze!

I'm not sure how similar the bits of data are that my friend is
recording. I suppose that your method could also, quite simply, hide
one subform and show another.

Thanks,

Steve Erbach

On Apr 6, 2005 6:29 AM, J Gould <gould.j at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> I may be a bit late on this, but if the fields for his collections are
> basically the same, then use a master form that is not tied to any
> particular database. Then use SQL to populate a view form. I did this with
a
> program several years ago where we had two databases of programs that were
> being run on a mainframe. It tracked the ownership, description of what
the
> programs did, when the programs were run and other details. It takes a bit
> of work, but it eliminates a ton of redundant programming for each tab (in
> this case). The main form is like a switchboard that the user would select
> the table they want to see. The view form is then loaded based on sql from
a
> hidden field on the switchboard. What's nice about doing this, is once you
> have the basics down on it, its very easy to create a search form that
> allows you to filter the records returned on the view form. Also, then one
> or two reports are all that's needed based again on the sql used to
display
> the view form. Although the initial programming may take a bit longer, you
> save a ton of time by not having to reinvent the wheel at every turn.
> 
> Hth
> 
> John Gould
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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Wed Apr  6 08:29:35 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:29:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Custom mouse cursor
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D10@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

I need a custom mouse cursor at one point in my A2K application running on Win2K. I am trying to set the cursor using the LoadCursorFromFile api call in the click event of a command button. It does load the cursor, but it is instantly reset to the default cursor.

I can force the issue by calling LoadCursorFromFile in the MouseMove event. However this results in, of course, poor performance and horrible flickering. I tried this more as an experiment, it's unworkable as a solution.

Does anyone know how to make this work, or have another solution to using a custom mouse cursor?

Neal


From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Apr  6 09:32:12 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:32:12 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
In-Reply-To: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D10@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F984E20E85EAEF7440053DD23D0@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to learn 
Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are tutorials or 
something)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr

I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just said 
Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited in 
what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.

If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what direction 
would you send them?

Thanks Again,

Mark A. Matte




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr  6 09:36:53 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:36:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F984E20E85EAEF7440053DD23D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20050406143655.DERN2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, a lot depends on the current level. 

Does he have any prior database experience?  
Will he be using wizards and not really need to understand normalization and
other database generalities?

Susan H. 


Hello All,

A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to learn
Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are tutorials or
something)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr

I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just said
Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited in
what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.

If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what direction
would you send them?

Thanks Again,

Mark A. Matte


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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Wed Apr  6 09:40:49 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:40:49 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225801@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Step number 1, join this list. Start a random project, and bug people until
you make sense of it.

I learned everything by trial and error, and listening to the several gurus
we have here. IMO, there's just no better way to push yourself.

;D

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 06 April 2005 15:32
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access


Hello All,

A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to learn

Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are tutorials or 
something)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr

I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just said

Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited in 
what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.

If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what direction 
would you send them?

Thanks Again,

Mark A. Matte


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Apr  6 09:47:34 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 10:47:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225801@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <002b01c53ab7$91757f70$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

SEVERAL gurus?  We have dozens, at least in specific areas.

<grin>

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www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How to learn Access


Step number 1, join this list. Start a random project, and bug people until
you make sense of it.

I learned everything by trial and error, and listening to the several gurus
we have here. IMO, there's just no better way to push yourself.

;D

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 06 April 2005 15:32
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access


Hello All,

A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to learn

Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are tutorials or 
something)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr

I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just said

Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited in 
what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.

If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what direction 
would you send them?

Thanks Again,

Mark A. Matte


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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Wed Apr  6 09:48:01 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:48:01 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C66C@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>

OMG! You did that as well then Roz ;-)

Chris Foote

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:41 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] How to learn Access
> 
> 
> Step number 1, join this list. Start a random project, and 
> bug people until
> you make sense of it.
> 
> I learned everything by trial and error, and listening to the 
> several gurus
> we have here. IMO, there's just no better way to push yourself.
> 
> ;D
> 


From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Apr  6 10:19:29 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:19:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F984E20E85EAEF7440053DD23D0@phx.gbl>
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D10@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
	<BAY103-F984E20E85EAEF7440053DD23D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <aea6c49505040608195cf3b668@mail.gmail.com>

Depends on the person. Depends on their level of experience with
computers in general and other software tools such as Excel and or
Word. Is it a developer type person? Have they done other programming
before so they would be not uncomfortable looking at VB code modules?
Are they familiar with relational database concepts? How do they like
to learn? Do they like to be in a classroom environment or do they
prefer to learn on their own? What do they intend to do with the
knowledge after they get it? Are they going to create a full blown
application or are they just going to use it as another Office tool in
their bag of tricks?   How much time do they have to pick up these
skills?

The training info from the links look like they would probably work
well for a lot of people. $80 for the two of them though?  That's a
pretty big investment. I'd try the first before grabbing them both.
Depending on the person, something like an Access for Dummies book you
could get on Amazon for $15 would be a lot cheaper and might serve
just as good though. As evidenced by the activities on this list,
NOBODY knows everything there is to know about Access. You just need
to get to the level of knowledge where you know enough to get your
project done and where to go to look for the answers that you don't
know which you will bump up against pretty often.



On Apr 6, 2005 9:32 AM, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to learn
> Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are tutorials or
> something)
> 
> http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr
> 
> http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr
> 
> I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just said
> Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited in
> what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.
> 
> If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what direction
> would you send them?
> 
> Thanks Again,
> 
> Mark A. Matte
> 
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Wed Apr  6 10:27:34 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:27:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225801@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
References: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225801@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050406082732df07ee@mail.gmail.com>

Roz,

I call that the "frog dissection" method: open that puppy up and poke
around with your scalpel and an electricified wire until something
jumps.

Steve Erbach
Neenah, WI

On Apr 6, 2005 9:40 AM, Roz Clarke <roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk> wrote:
> Step number 1, join this list. Start a random project, and bug people until
> you make sense of it.
> 
> I learned everything by trial and error, and listening to the several gurus
> we have here. IMO, there's just no better way to push yourself.
> 
> ;D


From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Apr  6 10:26:30 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 10:26:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F3F@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

I concur...
This list is an absolute must!

When I started with Access, I had experience with dBase III and Clipper.  I had taken graduate level courses on software development, database design and management, and system analysis.  
I decided to take an Access course. I didn't learn much.  The instructor didn't know about normalization and when asked about it, said it wasn't needed with Access.  When I asked about a particular problem I had, he recommended I take a VB6 course.  I was not impressed!

A few years ago, I was asked by the director of one of our departments to recommend a company that can train some employees in Access. I found a small upstart company that does a good job for neophytes.  Their text books were good and can be used for reference after the course. 
Sample databases were included in the course which each student could take with them and practice.  They purchased copyrighted materials from customguide.com.

Since then (with their permission and a small fee) I have used their textbooks and materials to teach the course to our clients.  What impressed our client was our company name on the materials!  

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Roz Clarke
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How to learn Access


Step number 1, join this list. Start a random project, and bug people until
you make sense of it.

I learned everything by trial and error, and listening to the several gurus
we have here. IMO, there's just no better way to push yourself.

;D

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 06 April 2005 15:32
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access


Hello All,

A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to learn

Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are tutorials or 
something)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr

I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just said

Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited in 
what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.

If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what direction 
would you send them?

Thanks Again,

Mark A. Matte


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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Wed Apr  6 10:59:38 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:59:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Custom mouse cursor
In-Reply-To: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D10@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D10@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <b874372a05040608591210a856@mail.gmail.com>

I use DevAshish's api, it works great.
http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0044.htm

On Apr 6, 2005 6:29 AM, Neal Kling <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us> wrote:
> 
> I need a custom mouse cursor at one point in my A2K application running on 
> Win2K. I am trying to set the cursor using the LoadCursorFromFile api call 
> in the click event of a command button. It does load the cursor, but it is 
> instantly reset to the default cursor.
> 
> I can force the issue by calling LoadCursorFromFile in the MouseMove 
> event. However this results in, of course, poor performance and horrible 
> flickering. I tried this more as an experiment, it's unworkable as a 
> solution.
> 
> Does anyone know how to make this work, or have another solution to using 
> a custom mouse cursor?
> 
> Neal
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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Wed Apr  6 11:39:04 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:39:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Custom mouse cursor
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F220@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

That's exactly what I'm using.

For what it's worth I get the same results on another similarly configured computer as well.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 12:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Custom mouse cursor


I use DevAshish's api, it works great.
http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0044.htm

On Apr 6, 2005 6:29 AM, Neal Kling <nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us> wrote:
> 
> I need a custom mouse cursor at one point in my A2K application running on 
> Win2K. I am trying to set the cursor using the LoadCursorFromFile api call 
> in the click event of a command button. It does load the cursor, but it is 
> instantly reset to the default cursor.
> 
> I can force the issue by calling LoadCursorFromFile in the MouseMove 
> event. However this results in, of course, poor performance and horrible 
> flickering. I tried this more as an experiment, it's unworkable as a 
> solution.
> 
> Does anyone know how to make this work, or have another solution to using 
> a custom mouse cursor?
> 
> Neal
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From kathryn at bassett.net  Wed Apr  6 11:47:29 2005
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:47:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
In-Reply-To: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C66C@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20050406164737.5C95040075@omta18.mta.everyone.net>

That's what I did too. The only experience I'd had with databases was in flat files (AppleWorks on Apple II, and SuperWorks, its PC equivalent). I had only a vague concept of how relational databases worked. I used this list and Steve's "frog dissection" method and feel pretty comfortable now, even though I am not a power Access user (fortunately, I don't need to be).

--
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http://bassett.net    

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Foote, Chris
> Sent: 06 Apr 2005 7:48 am
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] How to learn Access
> 
> OMG! You did that as well then Roz ;-)
> 
> Chris Foote
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roz Clarke [mailto:roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:41 PM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] How to learn Access
> > 
> > 
> > Step number 1, join this list. Start a random project, and 
> bug people 
> > until you make sense of it.
> > 
> > I learned everything by trial and error, and listening to 
> the several 
> > gurus we have here. IMO, there's just no better way to push 
> yourself.
> > 
> > ;D
> > 
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Wed Apr  6 13:19:35 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 14:19:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Skipping field in report/labels
Message-ID: <s253f001.054@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I thought there was a setting for this, but I don't see it. 

A coworker of mine has whipped up a quick labels program, using A2K.
There is an "Address1" field and "Address2." as you might expect, many
times there is no secondary address info and he wants to ignor this
then. It currently leaves a blank line, and he wants to push things up.
How can we do this?


From susanj at sgmeet.com  Wed Apr  6 13:44:30 2005
From: susanj at sgmeet.com (Susan Jones)
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:44:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Skipping field in report/labels
In-Reply-To: <s253f001.054@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
References: <s253f001.054@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050406134232.04920670@192.168.3.99>

The setting you're looking for is the 'Can Shrink' option in the design 
view.  Set it to yes.
Susan


At 01:19 PM 4/6/05, you wrote:
>I thought there was a setting for this, but I don't see it.
>
>A coworker of mine has whipped up a quick labels program, using A2K.
>There is an "Address1" field and "Address2." as you might expect, many
>times there is no secondary address info and he wants to ignor this
>then. It currently leaves a blank line, and he wants to push things up.
>How can we do this?
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From pharold at proftesting.com  Wed Apr  6 14:42:36 2005
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:42:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Skipping field in report/labels
In-Reply-To: <s253f001.054@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <000201c53ae0$c90a2de0$192da8c0@D58BT131Perry>

If you use the label wizard it's taken care of in the automatic design.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:20 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Skipping field in report/labels


I thought there was a setting for this, but I don't see it. 

A coworker of mine has whipped up a quick labels program, using A2K. There
is an "Address1" field and "Address2." as you might expect, many times there
is no secondary address info and he wants to ignor this then. It currently
leaves a blank line, and he wants to push things up. How can we do this?
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From greggs at msn.com  Wed Apr  6 15:13:40 2005
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:13:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data
References: <000201c53ae0$c90a2de0$192da8c0@D58BT131Perry>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV170A664BCB77BA551BAFE1C63D0@phx.gbl>

I have a customer who can't always see all his data.  When it started, half of the text was missing from a text box.  He entered the missing text, went out and back in, and both the new text and the old text appeared.  It happened to him again only this time in a subform, all the data was missing. retype, leave, return, and all data is duplicated.

This is visible on multiple systems (he has 6).  Each user has their own FE on 2002.  The server is running windows 2000 (last time I was there).  It is also happening in different apps.  It's happened a 3rd time in a completely different app.  Any ideas? 

Thanks for all your help!

From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Apr  6 15:33:32 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 16:33:32 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Form Positioning
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A207@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I want to open a form in a specific location with relation to another form.
How can I do this?

Thanks!
JR




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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr  6 16:40:50 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:40:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f305040605036c38ca88@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374DB@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <4254E402.12259.23E9AB1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 6 Apr 2005 at 7:03, Steve Erbach wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> Why not! I wonder if there's something like CDDB for ISBN numbers?
> 
See 
http://isbntools.com/ and http://isbndb.com/


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From nd500_lo at charter.net  Wed Apr  6 16:45:41 2005
From: nd500_lo at charter.net (Dian)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 14:45:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <3rr7ej$tr6njv@mxip13a.cluster1.charter.net>

Congratulations, John (and Mary)...this is going to be the best time of your
lives. I hope you enjoy every minute of it. By coincidence, the adoption
anniversary for my nephew is April 15...he's 19 now and a true joy in every
way. Best wishes to all four of you!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life

I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  6 18:55:13 2005
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 16:55:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050406235513.36872.qmail@web41128.mail.yahoo.com>

Stuart,
Once again apologies for the delay in responding.
Will try to trim out a version of the FE and enough of the BE to make it work.
Hope to email it to you tomorrow.
TIA
Chris

Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
On 5 Apr 2005 at 16:47, Chris Enright wrote:

> Just a little more background info. If the client says they have used the facility before the
> program goes to frmCustomers and asks them to enter either their Membership Number or their
> Name. When they enter one or the other the form brings up all their details. They press
> and the popup/modal form frmEnterPIN is displayed.
> The form has a textbox "Please enter your PIN", a box for them to enter it and a 
> button. Nothing else! 
> The Record Source is qryCustomers and the Filter is on Membership Number.
> However, if you press the Right Arrow, a sunken box appears on the left showing their Membership
> Number. No problem! However, press the Left Arrow and a ditto box appears on the right showing
> the PIN Number in clear even though it is stored in the BE as password/asterisks. Continuous
> pressing of either arrow just tabs between the blank box, the Membership Number and the PIN. No
> other field from the record is shown.
> 

You've got me intrigued.

Impossible to say what is happening without a closer look. Can you copy 
frmCustomers and frmEnterPIN into a blank database and put is somewhere 
accessible for download or email me a copy. 



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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Thu Apr  7 01:25:50 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:25:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Word closes before it shows the user the document 
Message-ID: <OFC9BD66EA.E6C1361D-ONCA256FDC.00209181@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Hi all,

Now trying to fix a 2nd database which is not working, written in Access97.
Problem is there is a Form letter function (code below) when I call this
function it opens word but no document appears in the window. The popup to
ask if it printed OK appears but the document is not visible to the user
and no printing occurs. If I comment out the line
'.Documents(strMainDocument).Close SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges I get a
program monitor error but the document is visible.

Any ideas?

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange


Public Sub Export_Word()
Dim rsA0001 As Recordset

Dim objWord As Word.Application
Dim strMainDocument As String

Dim dbExportWord As Database
Dim rsExportWord As Recordset
Dim booPrintBackground As Boolean


gfLetterPrintedOK = False 'Value will be set to true if the user verifies
that the letter printed

' Resume to the next line following the error.
On Error Resume Next

' Attempt to reference Word which is already running.
Set objWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")
If Err = 429 Then
    Set objWord = New Word.Application
    Err = 0
End If


' If true, Word is not running.
If objWord Is Nothing Then
        ' Create a new instance of the Word application.
        Set objWord = New Word.Application
        ' If true, MS Word is not installed.
        If objWord Is Nothing Then
                MsgBox "MS Word is not installed on your computer"
                GoTo ExitRoutine
        End If 'objWord Is Nothing
End If 'objWord Is Nothing

'Check to Ensure the temporary RTF file has been deleted, if not, Delete it
    gstrWordDirectory = Dir$(strTempRTFFile, vbNormal)
        If gstrWordDirectory <> "" Then
                On Error GoTo Failure 'Displays 'File Access Error (#71) if
a form letter is already open
                    Kill strTempRTFFile
                On Error Resume Next
        End If 'gstrWordDirectory <> ""

    If gstrAccessWordQuery = "" Then
                    'Print Blank Form
                        objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate)
                Else
                    DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputQuery, gstrAccessWordQuery, _
                        acFormatRTF, strTempRTFFile, False
                    objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate) 'Template document
'*.dot'
                    strMainDocument = objWord.ActiveDocument.Name 'Sets the
name of the 'Main Document' (template document)
                    'so that it can be closed later

                    With objWord.ActiveDocument.MailMerge
                        .SuppressBlankLines = True
                        .ViewMailMergeFieldCodes = False
                        .Destination = wdSendToNewDocument
                        .Execute
                    End With

                    With objWord 'Close Main Document
                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Activate
                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Close
SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges
                           ' Store background printing option.



                     End With

                objWord.Activate    ' Activates Word
                objWord.Visible = True    ' Show Word to the user.
                objWord.WindowState = wdWindowStateMaximize
                Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.

            On Error GoTo Failure

                If MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?", vbYesNo,
"Form Letters") = vbYes Then

                        gfLetterPrintedOK = True
                        Set dbExportWord = CurrentDb()
                        Set rsExportWord =
dbExportWord.OpenRecordset("tblLettersSent", dbOpenDynaset, dbFailOnError)

                        With rsExportWord
                            .AddNew
                                !LTRLPBNumber = gstrRLPBNumber
                                !LTPropertyID = glngMainPropertyID
                                !LTFormLetterID = gstrFormLetterID
                                !LTComment = gstrFormLetterComment
                                !LTDatePrinted = Date
                                !LTTimePrinted = Time
                            .Update
                        End With

                        Select Case getgstrFormLetterID()
                            Case "A0001"
                                dbExportWord.Execute "A000104",
dbFailOnError

                        End Select
                End If 'MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?"...
      End If 'gstrAccessWordQuery = ""


ExitRoutine:
    On Error Resume Next
        rsExportWord.Close
        Set rsExportWord = Nothing
        dbExportWord.Close
        Set dbExportWord = Nothing
        rsA0001.Close
        Set rsA0001 = Nothing
        Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.
    Exit Sub

Failure:
        Call ErrorHandler(strProcedureName:="Export_Word",
lngErrorNumber:=Err.Number, _
            strErrorDescription:=Err.Description, _
            strErrorSource:=Err.Source)
        Resume ExitRoutine

 End Sub




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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  7 03:27:26 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:27:26 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data
Message-ID: <s2550b27.001@cactus.dk>

Hi Greggs

It could be due to file caching on either the server, the network
client or both.
Check with your network admin.

/gustav

>>> greggs at msn.com 04/06 10:13 pm >>>
I have a customer who can't always see all his data.  When it started,
half of the text was missing from a text box.  He entered the missing
text, went out and back in, and both the new text and the old text
appeared.  It happened to him again only this time in a subform, all the
data was missing. retype, leave, return, and all data is duplicated.

This is visible on multiple systems (he has 6).  Each user has their
own FE on 2002.  The server is running windows 2000 (last time I was
there).  It is also happening in different apps.  It's happened a 3rd
time in a completely different app.  Any ideas? 

Thanks for all your help!
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  7 03:33:53 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:33:53 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
Message-ID: <s2550cad.003@cactus.dk>

Hi Stuart

Looks like ReaderWare from the first link could be the answer to
Steve's original request.

/gustav

>>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 04/06 11:40 pm >>>
On 6 Apr 2005 at 7:03, Steve Erbach wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> Why not! I wonder if there's something like CDDB for ISBN numbers?
> 
See 
http://isbntools.com/ and http://isbndb.com/ 


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From JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com  Thu Apr  7 06:14:31 2005
From: JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com (JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:14:31 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] AXP fails to install ..continued
Message-ID: <ff.10f4131b.2f867017@aol.com>

 
Hi  Marty, 
You were right about  setup.lst having the language set to 1033 also in the 
same file under [runtime]  the OSPLCID (what ever that is) was set to 1033.  I 
changed the language setting to 2057  without success then the OSPLCID=2057 
again without success. I then ran the  Runtime SP3 again. No joy. This was now 
getting tedious. As desperate attempt to  get the thing working I manually 
installed Access XP runtime on the user?s PC  and copied the db front end as well 
and it works as it should.   
Thank you once more  for your input. 
john  bell


From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Apr  7 08:39:56 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:39:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
Message-ID: <s2550052.007@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Just to add my two cents...I'd been to classes and I tried reading books
(I just can't get through a text book though), but what actually got me
going was this list...seriously! 

1) Join this list

2) Bookmark:

	http://www.mvps.org/access/
	http://www.lebans.com/monthcalendar.htm 
	http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html 
	
* There are many others, but these three along with many of this list's
member sites, which you can get from their sig lines have about anything
you could want.

Use the material you find here. Examine their code and see what it
does. My personal rule is, if I borrow someone else's code, I must know
what it does. I've broken this rule a few times because of time
constraints, but I have always tried to return and figure it out.

3) Buy a copy of Access Developer's Handbook.  There are different
version available...I still use my A97 version, but you would want to
buy the version your starting in at least.

4) Like someone already mentioned, pick a project. It doesn't even have
to be anything major. And don't worry about it being out there
already...it probably is. Just pick something...perhaps a db for your
book, video, or music collection, or a workout chart...and just dive in.
A couple of my first "learning" projects were a DB for my daughter's per
frogs...it tracked the frogs, their feedings, purchases...totally
un-needed, but I learned from it and she loved it. I also did a wedding
planner for my Sister-in-Law. This was a nasty program, but she used it
and seemed to love it...I heard her mother "raving" about it to someone,
and they didn't know that I had done it.


>>> roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk 4/6/2005 10:40 AM >>>
Step number 1, join this list. Start a random project, and bug people
until
you make sense of it.

I learned everything by trial and error, and listening to the several
gurus
we have here. IMO, there's just no better way to push yourself.

;D

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 06 April 2005 15:32
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access


Hello All,

A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to
learn

Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are
tutorials or 
something)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr


http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr


I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just
said

Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited
in 
what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.

If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what
direction 
would you send them?

Thanks Again,

Mark A. Matte


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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Apr  7 09:25:41 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:25:41 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374E6@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Is he hitting a carriage return or other character such as a tab that is
being captured and  causing the data to wrap?
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg [mailto:greggs at msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Cc: Robert Penn
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data


I have a customer who can't always see all his data.  When it started, half
of the text was missing from a text box.  He entered the missing text, went
out and back in, and both the new text and the old text appeared.  It
happened to him again only this time in a subform, all the data was missing.
retype, leave, return, and all data is duplicated.

This is visible on multiple systems (he has 6).  Each user has their own FE
on 2002.  The server is running windows 2000 (last time I was there).  It is
also happening in different apps.  It's happened a 3rd time in a completely
different app.  Any ideas? 

Thanks for all your help!
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Apr  7 09:27:31 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:27:31 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374E7@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Colby 2.0! Great, congrats. 
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr  7 09:42:50 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:42:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BEC@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

I have a crosstab query listing New, Complete, & Past Due, On Time work
orders. In Excel I am using the MS Query to import the data from the
A2003 database & create a graph.

 

The problem: If there aren't any past due work orders when I refresh the
data the Excel query crashes. It also deletes the excel column I have
set up for past due totals. If there are past due work orders, I have to
manually edit the query to add the past due column back in. Run the
refresh query, it adds the past due column but it rearranges the Past
Due column to the right of the other columns.  When I modify the query I
put the past due column back in the order I want it in the list.

 

Ex:

The way I want it layed out & if there are any past due: Responsible,
New, Completed, Past Due, On Time

The way it puts the data after there are past due WOs (if there weren't
any the previous run & I add the column to the query): Responsible, New
Completed, On Time, Past Due

 

Can I put something in my crosstab query to allow for null values? Is
there a way to put a 0 in the query results if the value shows null?
That way it would always show my past due column in Excel because it
would have a 0 in the field. The data is from a database I can not
change, so I can't add a 0 to the tables. I just need the query or Excel
to display a 0 in the Null fields so the Excel query runs correctly.

 

Or is there a setting in Excel that will always keep the rows where I
want them &/or set the value to 0 if null when refreshing the MSQuery?

 

Virginia



From JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com  Thu Apr  7 09:53:20 2005
From: JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com (JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:53:20 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <74.5130e3e4.2f86a360@aol.com>

Don't you mean its Tough for a 4 year old going as SLOW as 50+ old  boy! 
<Select grin =  "Big">
 
Wish you and your boss(wife) a sucessful day in court and not too many  
sleepless nights.
 
johnb 


From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr  7 09:56:37 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:56:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BED@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  7 10:04:34 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:04:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BED@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <006c01c53b83$1c1267d0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

WooHOOOOooooo!!!

Congrats and may it be everything you hoped it would be.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, Charlotte,
etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been awhile since I have
posted to the list & the new ones probably won't remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It took
awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to everyone on
the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  7 10:08:56 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:08:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <74.5130e3e4.2f86a360@aol.com>
Message-ID: <006d01c53b83$b7eb68a0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yea, that too.  This little guy literally runs in circles up the hall,
around the living room / dining room and back down the hall to his room,
running laps 15 or 20 at a time just to get his energy out.  

I drink diet Pepsi all day just to get up the energy to go to the bathroom
to get rid of all the diet Pepsi.  Kinda puts things into perspective.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:53 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


Don't you mean its Tough for a 4 year old going as SLOW as 50+ old  boy! 
<Select grin =  "Big">
 
Wish you and your boss(wife) a sucessful day in court and not too many  
sleepless nights.
 
johnb 
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Apr  7 10:14:54 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:14:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B590FC@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9B9@ADGSERVER>

Virginia,

I remember you.  Although I'm sure that you do not know me.  But
congratulations!

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, Charlotte,
etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been awhile since I have
posted to the list & the new ones probably won't remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It took
awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to everyone on
the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr  7 10:23:58 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:23:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <s2556cc7.015@cactus.dk>

Hi Virginia

I remember you.

/gustav

>>> HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com 04/07 4:56 pm >>>
This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
remember me.

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!

Virginia



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr  7 10:30:33 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:30:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BF0@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

It makes me feel so good that everyone remembers me. I miss talking to
everyone in my AccessD family. I would never have made it without
everyone's help.

 

Also, congrats John on the family!! I am so happy for you & will keep
you in my prayers. I know it will work out perfectly - have fun.

 

******************
Hi Virginia
 
I remember you.
 
/gustav

 



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Apr  7 10:29:16 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:29:16 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <20050407152913.485E52502C0@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Well done Virginia, that's great, and terrific that you love it so much now
you're there. Long may you enjoy it. We (or maybe just I) perhaps need
reminding that it's not a bad old career.

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk



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From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Date: 07/04/05 15:13

>
> This is mostly for you &quot;old&quot; AccessD guys out there (John,
Susan,
> Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
> awhile since I have posted to the list &amp; the new ones probably won't
> remember me.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
> took awhile &amp; a lot of hard work, but I made it &amp; love it. Thanks
to
> everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!
>
>
>
> Virginia
>
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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Thu Apr  7 10:32:17 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:32:17 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225825@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Congratulations Virginia. I hope you continue to love it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com] 
Sent: 07 April 2005 15:57
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, Charlotte,
etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been awhile since I have
posted to the list & the new ones probably won't remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It took
awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to everyone on
the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

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From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Apr  7 10:39:20 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 10:39:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F4A@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Virginia,
Welcome back!

Go to the properties of the query.
Place the title of the columns, in quotes, separated by a comma, in the Column Headings.
When the query runs, each column will be visible - even those that are null.
When you export to Excel all the columns will be in place.

HTH
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:43 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel


I have a crosstab query listing New, Complete, & Past Due, On Time work
orders. In Excel I am using the MS Query to import the data from the
A2003 database & create a graph.

 

The problem: If there aren't any past due work orders when I refresh the
data the Excel query crashes. It also deletes the excel column I have
set up for past due totals. If there are past due work orders, I have to
manually edit the query to add the past due column back in. Run the
refresh query, it adds the past due column but it rearranges the Past
Due column to the right of the other columns.  When I modify the query I
put the past due column back in the order I want it in the list.

 

Ex:

The way I want it layed out & if there are any past due: Responsible,
New, Completed, Past Due, On Time

The way it puts the data after there are past due WOs (if there weren't
any the previous run & I add the column to the query): Responsible, New
Completed, On Time, Past Due

 

Can I put something in my crosstab query to allow for null values? Is
there a way to put a 0 in the query results if the value shows null?
That way it would always show my past due column in Excel because it
would have a 0 in the field. The data is from a database I can not
change, so I can't add a 0 to the tables. I just need the query or Excel
to display a 0 in the Null fields so the Excel query runs correctly.

 

Or is there a setting in Excel that will always keep the rows where I
want them &/or set the value to 0 if null when refreshing the MSQuery?

 

Virginia

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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Thu Apr  7 10:43:00 2005
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:43:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BF0@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050407154256.LIOC2192.mta9.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>

Virginia

Believe me - you made it a long time ago. Although you didn't know it, your
contributions to this list over the years have helped me in immeasurable
ways - both as questions and as answers.

Congratulations on your achievement, and I wish you the best of luck. I look
forward to your renewed involvement with the List.

Regards,
Bob Gajewski



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:31 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks

It makes me feel so good that everyone remembers me. I miss talking to
everyone in my AccessD family. I would never have made it without everyone's
help.

 

Also, congrats John on the family!! I am so happy for you & will keep you in
my prayers. I know it will work out perfectly - have fun.

 

******************
Hi Virginia
 
I remember you.
 
/gustav

 

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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr  7 10:47:43 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:47:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BF1@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

The properties of the query in Access or Excel? Excel creates a linked
query to the database.
 
>Place the title of the columns, in quotes, separated by a comma, in the
Column Headings. 
        Where would this go, I don't see a place listing the column
headings in Access or Excel queries.
*************
Virginia,
Welcome back!
 
Go to the properties of the query.
Place the title of the columns, in quotes, separated by a comma, in the
Column Headings.
When the query runs, each column will be visible - even those that are
null.
When you export to Excel all the columns will be in place.
 
HTH
Jim
 
 
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> ]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:43 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> 
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel
 
 
I have a crosstab query listing New, Complete, & Past Due, On Time work
orders. In Excel I am using the MS Query to import the data from the
A2003 database & create a graph.
 
 
 
The problem: If there aren't any past due work orders when I refresh the
data the Excel query crashes. It also deletes the excel column I have
set up for past due totals. If there are past due work orders, I have to
manually edit the query to add the past due column back in. Run the
refresh query, it adds the past due column but it rearranges the Past
Due column to the right of the other columns.  When I modify the query I
put the past due column back in the order I want it in the list.
 
 
 
Ex:
 
The way I want it layed out & if there are any past due: Responsible,
New, Completed, Past Due, On Time
 
The way it puts the data after there are past due WOs (if there weren't
any the previous run & I add the column to the query): Responsible, New
Completed, On Time, Past Due
 
 
 
Can I put something in my crosstab query to allow for null values? Is
there a way to put a 0 in the query results if the value shows null?
That way it would always show my past due column in Excel because it
would have a 0 in the field. The data is from a database I can not
change, so I can't add a 0 to the tables. I just need the query or Excel
to display a 0 in the Null fields so the Excel query runs correctly.
 
 
 
Or is there a setting in Excel that will always keep the rows where I
want them &/or set the value to 0 if null when refreshing the MSQuery?
 
 
 
Virginia
 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr  7 11:04:50 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 12:04:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BED@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050407160506.PBLM1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Congratulations! 

Susan H. 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It took
awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to everyone on
the list that has helped me over the years!!




From JHewson at karta.com  Thu Apr  7 11:06:35 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:06:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F4B@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

In Access.
Open the query in design view.
Right click the area where the tables are visible.
The query properties should be visible.
"Column Headings" is the second item on the list.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel


The properties of the query in Access or Excel? Excel creates a linked
query to the database.
 
>Place the title of the columns, in quotes, separated by a comma, in the
Column Headings. 
        Where would this go, I don't see a place listing the column
headings in Access or Excel queries.
*************
Virginia,
Welcome back!
 
Go to the properties of the query.
Place the title of the columns, in quotes, separated by a comma, in the
Column Headings.
When the query runs, each column will be visible - even those that are
null.
When you export to Excel all the columns will be in place.
 
HTH
Jim
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> ]On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:43 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> 
Subject: [AccessD] Crosstab Query Null to 0 & Excel
 
 
I have a crosstab query listing New, Complete, & Past Due, On Time work
orders. In Excel I am using the MS Query to import the data from the
A2003 database & create a graph.
 
 
 
The problem: If there aren't any past due work orders when I refresh the
data the Excel query crashes. It also deletes the excel column I have
set up for past due totals. If there are past due work orders, I have to
manually edit the query to add the past due column back in. Run the
refresh query, it adds the past due column but it rearranges the Past
Due column to the right of the other columns.  When I modify the query I
put the past due column back in the order I want it in the list.
 
 
 
Ex:
 
The way I want it layed out & if there are any past due: Responsible,
New, Completed, Past Due, On Time
 
The way it puts the data after there are past due WOs (if there weren't
any the previous run & I add the column to the query): Responsible, New
Completed, On Time, Past Due
 
 
 
Can I put something in my crosstab query to allow for null values? Is
there a way to put a 0 in the query results if the value shows null?
That way it would always show my past due column in Excel because it
would have a 0 in the field. The data is from a database I can not
change, so I can't add a 0 to the tables. I just need the query or Excel
to display a 0 in the Null fields so the Excel query runs correctly.
 
 
 
Or is there a setting in Excel that will always keep the rows where I
want them &/or set the value to 0 if null when refreshing the MSQuery?
 
 
 
Virginia
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr  7 11:15:53 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:15:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873968@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Congratulations and I hope you continue to enjoy it after the euphoria
wears off! ;->

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr  7 11:34:43 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:34:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899EDD@infoserver01.infostat.local>

What is he trying to learn, how to program it or just how to use it?
You can do a lot with access just using the wizards but competence in
development takes a lot more work and time.  The Microsoft Press Access
Step-By-Step books will provide the essentials of how to use it and make
the wizards work for you.

Relational design is another level of learning.  I was reading database
developers journals before I ever started working with Access, and
believe me, it helps.  The O'Reilly book, Access Database  Design &
Programming, has a good overview on relational theory and normalization,
and I recommend it highly to all Access newcomers.  I've never been able
to use newsgroups to any good effect, so I wouldn't recommend those.
This list or the sister list, Access-L, is a good place to lurk but can
be overwhelming for a total newcome.  Woody's Lounge at www.wopr.com has
a large and active Access board with a good search implementation and
questions (and answers) from all levels of skill.  

The dissection method is a good way to figure out how someone else did
it and then back into the why.  That's how I originally learned dBase
back in its infancy, and it's still a useful technique.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] How to learn Access


Hello All,

A co-worker called and asked my opinion on the best way for someone to
learn 
Access.  He asked about the following links: ( i thnk they are tutorials
or 
something)

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22194.html?subj=22194&part=tr

http://techrepublic.com.com/5111-6242-26-22205.html?subj=22205&part=tr

I've personally never taken any class/course related to access...I just
said 
Yes, I can do that, and then went figure out how...so I'm kinda limited
in 
what I can suggest as a more orthodox method of learning.

If someone you never met asked "How do I 'learn' access?"...what
direction 
would you send them?

Thanks Again,

Mark A. Matte


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr  7 11:45:35 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:45:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899EDF@infoserver01.infostat.local>

> 
I would love to trap the KeyDown event on the form and discard the left,
right up, down and pageup and pagedown keycodes! How?

Here's a sample KeyDown routine.  Maybe it will give you the idea.

Private Sub Form_KeyDown(KeyCode As Integer, Shift As Integer)
' code disables use of arrows and PgUp and PgDown
    On Error Resume Next
    Select Case KeyCode
        Case vbKeyLeft, vbKeyRight, vbKeyUp, vbKeyDown, _
                vbKeyPageUp, vbKeyPageDown
            KeyCode = 0
    End Select
            
End Sub

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts


Susan, 
 
Apologies for what appears to be a late reply but when I send my emails,
you are asleep, I presume , and when you send yours I'm in the land of
nod.
 
When I was told about the problem I checked my master program and
horror, it was true.
 
Just a little more background info. If the client says they have used
the facility before the program goes to frmCustomers and asks them to
enter either their Membership Number or their Name. When they enter one
or the other the form brings up all their details. They press <Continue>
and the popup/modal form frmEnterPIN is displayed. The form has a
textbox "Please enter your PIN", a box for them to enter it and a
<Continue> button. Nothing else! 
The Record Source is qryCustomers and the Filter is on Membership
Number. However, if you press the Right Arrow, a sunken box appears on
the left showing their Membership Number. No problem! However, press the
Left Arrow and a ditto box appears on the right showing the PIN Number
in clear even though it is stored in the BE as password/asterisks.
Continuous pressing of either arrow just tabs between the blank box, the
Membership Number and the PIN. No other field from the record is shown.
 
Charlotte, 
 
I would love to trap the KeyDown event on the form and discard the left,
right up, down and pageup and pagedown keycodes! How?
 
Chris
 
 

		
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From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Thu Apr  7 11:47:23 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:47:23 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
References: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BED@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <028701c53b91$799baf70$0800a8c0@s856>

Hi Virginia,
Congratulations from me too.
I'm not much on the list any more, but i still read most of it.
found that the young guys are much better in answering the questions :)
wish you much success in your new job
Lembit

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From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Apr  7 12:34:27 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:34:27 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <BAY103-F5ADF5968125D187B017B3D23E0@phx.gbl>

Virginia,

I also remember you.  Congrats on the new career.

This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of all 
list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have actually 
been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 1999.

Anyway, welcome back/congrats Virginia.

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
>Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:56:37 -0400
>
>This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
>Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
>awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
>remember me.
>
>
>
>Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
>took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
>everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!
>
>
>
>Virginia
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  7 12:40:35 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 13:40:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374E7@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <007f01c53b98$e77a0ad0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

LOL, this little boy is not a 2.0 of anyone.  He is his own little man.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:28 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


Colby 2.0! Great, congrats. 
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".  As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.  

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Apr  7 13:52:06 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:52:06 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access and TaskManager
In-Reply-To: <007f01c53b98$e77a0ad0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F196F96AC42DE63C7F9E678D23E0@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

I'm doing some large data pulls with A97 via ODBC...I know it takes a long 
time anyway...but when looking at the windows task manager, only 1-2 
percentCPU usage is indicated for Access.

Just curious, how to make this thing go any faster.  A month ago we talked 
about the 'ADO' thing...but unless I did something wrong...it didn't go any 
faster.

FYI...I'm talking a little over 1 million records...and memo/blob fields are 
involved.  Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte




From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Apr  7 14:05:24 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:05:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access and TaskManager
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F196F96AC42DE63C7F9E678D23E0@phx.gbl>
References: <007f01c53b98$e77a0ad0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
	<BAY103-F196F96AC42DE63C7F9E678D23E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <aea6c495050407120552f7712@mail.gmail.com>

What's the ODBC connection too? When I do ODBC to Oracle, Access sends
the query info to the Oracle system and the query is really run on the
server, not on the Access PC. So the Access PC just sits there waiting
for the server to send the results of the query down the pipe. Until
the server is ready, the Access PC just waits, hence the low CPU
utilization, it's just killing time. The way to speed it up is to
optomize the query that is sent to the Oracle engine - joining and
putting criteria on indexed fields and such.  Not much else you can do
I'm afraid.

On Apr 7, 2005 1:52 PM, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I'm doing some large data pulls with A97 via ODBC...I know it takes a long
> time anyway...but when looking at the windows task manager, only 1-2
> percentCPU usage is indicated for Access.
> 
> Just curious, how to make this thing go any faster.  A month ago we talked
> about the 'ADO' thing...but unless I did something wrong...it didn't go any
> faster.
> 
> FYI...I'm talking a little over 1 million records...and memo/blob fields are
> involved.  Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark A. Matte
> 
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Apr  7 14:13:02 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:13:02 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access and TaskManager
In-Reply-To: <aea6c495050407120552f7712@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F318BF10428CE9796A026D8D23E0@phx.gbl>

Its to an Informix db.  I can check the access db...and the table is being 
populated...just real slow.  I'm only pulling 2 fields:  CASE_ID(which is 
indexed and has criteria) and DESC(which is the memo field no criteria).

Not sure if anyone has a number...but is there a ballpark number of expected 
records per minute/second?  Just curious if I'm really slow...or if this is 
the norm.

Thanks,

Mark

>From: Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access and TaskManager
>Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:05:24 -0500
>
>What's the ODBC connection too? When I do ODBC to Oracle, Access sends
>the query info to the Oracle system and the query is really run on the
>server, not on the Access PC. So the Access PC just sits there waiting
>for the server to send the results of the query down the pipe. Until
>the server is ready, the Access PC just waits, hence the low CPU
>utilization, it's just killing time. The way to speed it up is to
>optomize the query that is sent to the Oracle engine - joining and
>putting criteria on indexed fields and such.  Not much else you can do
>I'm afraid.
>
>On Apr 7, 2005 1:52 PM, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I'm doing some large data pulls with A97 via ODBC...I know it takes a 
>long
> > time anyway...but when looking at the windows task manager, only 1-2
> > percentCPU usage is indicated for Access.
> >
> > Just curious, how to make this thing go any faster.  A month ago we 
>talked
> > about the 'ADO' thing...but unless I did something wrong...it didn't go 
>any
> > faster.
> >
> > FYI...I'm talking a little over 1 million records...and memo/blob fields 
>are
> > involved.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark A. Matte
> >
> > --
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  7 14:14:24 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:14:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F5ADF5968125D187B017B3D23E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000101c53ba6$06030bc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I found the list in July of 1997.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:34 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


Virginia,

I also remember you.  Congrats on the new career.

This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of all 
list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have actually 
been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 1999.

Anyway, welcome back/congrats Virginia.

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
>Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:56:37 -0400
>
>This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, 
>Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been 
>awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't 
>remember me.
>
>
>
>Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It 
>took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to 
>everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!
>
>
>
>Virginia
>
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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Apr  7 14:18:32 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:18:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form in DS mode 
In-Reply-To: <ff.10f4131b.2f867017@aol.com>
References: <ff.10f4131b.2f867017@aol.com>
Message-ID: <42558788.2030506@rogers.com>

I have a form called frmEventSelector, to which I pass the name of the 
report or form I want to run. The Event selector contains a combo that 
sets the EventID I want. Then I examine the name of the OpenArgs 
argument. Code in the form looks at the prefix, and if it's frm it runs 
the form; if it's rpt it runs the form, and if it's qry it runs the query.

How can I let this form know that I want to run a given form in 
DataSheet mode? Even though I set its default mode to DS, it doesn't 
seem to help.

TIA,
Arthur



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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  7 14:52:30 2005
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 12:52:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050407195230.53653.qmail@web41103.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks Charlotte,

Something new every day.

Chris

--- Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> > 
> I would love to trap the KeyDown event on the form and discard the
> left,
> right up, down and pageup and pagedown keycodes! How?
> 
> Here's a sample KeyDown routine.  Maybe it will give you the idea.
> 
> Private Sub Form_KeyDown(KeyCode As Integer, Shift As Integer)
> ' code disables use of arrows and PgUp and PgDown
>     On Error Resume Next
>     Select Case KeyCode
>         Case vbKeyLeft, vbKeyRight, vbKeyUp, vbKeyDown, _
>                 vbKeyPageUp, vbKeyPageDown
>             KeyCode = 0
>     End Select
>             
> End Sub
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Enright [mailto:cclenright at yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:48 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access 2k: Ghosts
> 
> 
> Susan, 
>  
> Apologies for what appears to be a late reply but when I send my
> emails,
> you are asleep, I presume , and when you send yours I'm in the land
> of
> nod.
>  
> When I was told about the problem I checked my master program and
> horror, it was true.
>  
> Just a little more background info. If the client says they have used
> the facility before the program goes to frmCustomers and asks them to
> enter either their Membership Number or their Name. When they enter
> one
> or the other the form brings up all their details. They press
> <Continue>
> and the popup/modal form frmEnterPIN is displayed. The form has a
> textbox "Please enter your PIN", a box for them to enter it and a
> <Continue> button. Nothing else! 
> The Record Source is qryCustomers and the Filter is on Membership
> Number. However, if you press the Right Arrow, a sunken box appears
> on
> the left showing their Membership Number. No problem! However, press
> the
> Left Arrow and a ditto box appears on the right showing the PIN
> Number
> in clear even though it is stored in the BE as password/asterisks.
> Continuous pressing of either arrow just tabs between the blank box,
> the
> Membership Number and the PIN. No other field from the record is
> shown.
>  
> Charlotte, 
>  
> I would love to trap the KeyDown event on the form and discard the
> left,
> right up, down and pageup and pagedown keycodes! How?
>  
> Chris
>  
>  
> 
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Apr  7 15:51:03 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:51:03 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form in DS mode 
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2F28@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Sounds like you will need to pass an additional parameter the to
frmEventSelector form. This is easy to do, just pass a string with a
delimiter character (say the pipe character "|") between your parameters.
Then frmEventSelector can call Split on the OpenArgs parameter to get the
individual parameters.

Finally, your code can open the form using acFormDS for the View parameter
where needed.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent:	Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:19 PM
> To:	Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject:	[AccessD] Open a form in DS mode 
> 
> I have a form called frmEventSelector, to which I pass the name of the 
> report or form I want to run. The Event selector contains a combo that 
> sets the EventID I want. Then I examine the name of the OpenArgs 
> argument. Code in the form looks at the prefix, and if it's frm it runs 
> the form; if it's rpt it runs the form, and if it's qry it runs the query.
> 
> How can I let this form know that I want to run a given form in 
> DataSheet mode? Even though I set its default mode to DS, it doesn't 
> seem to help.
> 
> TIA,
> Arthur
> 
> 
> 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr  7 16:10:02 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:10:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access and TaskManager
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873970@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I've seen this kind of bottleneck with ODBC links to SQL Server too.
Unless you use a passthrough query or structure your ADO to do the
processing on the server, you're stuck.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:13 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access and TaskManager


Its to an Informix db.  I can check the access db...and the table is
being 
populated...just real slow.  I'm only pulling 2 fields:  CASE_ID(which
is 
indexed and has criteria) and DESC(which is the memo field no criteria).

Not sure if anyone has a number...but is there a ballpark number of
expected 
records per minute/second?  Just curious if I'm really slow...or if this
is 
the norm.

Thanks,

Mark

>From: Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access and TaskManager
>Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:05:24 -0500
>
>What's the ODBC connection too? When I do ODBC to Oracle, Access sends 
>the query info to the Oracle system and the query is really run on the 
>server, not on the Access PC. So the Access PC just sits there waiting 
>for the server to send the results of the query down the pipe. Until 
>the server is ready, the Access PC just waits, hence the low CPU 
>utilization, it's just killing time. The way to speed it up is to 
>optomize the query that is sent to the Oracle engine - joining and 
>putting criteria on indexed fields and such.  Not much else you can do 
>I'm afraid.
>
>On Apr 7, 2005 1:52 PM, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I'm doing some large data pulls with A97 via ODBC...I know it takes 
> > a
>long
> > time anyway...but when looking at the windows task manager, only 1-2

> > percentCPU usage is indicated for Access.
> >
> > Just curious, how to make this thing go any faster.  A month ago we
>talked
> > about the 'ADO' thing...but unless I did something wrong...it didn't

> > go
>any
> > faster.
> >
> > FYI...I'm talking a little over 1 million records...and memo/blob 
> > fields
>are
> > involved.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark A. Matte
> >
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
>--
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>garykjos at gmail.com
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From kathryn at bassett.net  Thu Apr  7 16:17:34 2005
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:17:34 -0700
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made
	It - Thanks)
In-Reply-To: <000101c53ba6$06030bc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050407211735.B04C740016@omta16.mta.everyone.net>

Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the 
> website of all list members...It would be interesting to see 
> how long people have actually been using Accessd.  I've used 
> this group religiously since 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.



From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Thu Apr  7 16:31:21 2005
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:31:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <20050407211735.B04C740016@omta16.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <20050407213116.XWVH4618.mta13.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>

I have been watching/lurking since at least April 2000; I asked my first
question in January 2002; and I ventured to offer my first advice (?) in May
of 2002. But, I read it every day, and all of you have been and continue to
be instrumental in my Access learning!

Bob Gajewski


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of 
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have 
> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 
> 1999.





From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  7 16:37:13 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 07:37:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form in DS mode 
In-Reply-To: <42558788.2030506@rogers.com>
References: <ff.10f4131b.2f867017@aol.com>
Message-ID: <425634A9.3036.4E00336@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 7 Apr 2005 at 15:18, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I have a form called frmEventSelector, to which I pass the name of the 
> report or form I want to run. The Event selector contains a combo that 
> sets the EventID I want. Then I examine the name of the OpenArgs 
> argument. Code in the form looks at the prefix, and if it's frm it runs 
> the form; if it's rpt it runs the form, and if it's qry it runs the query.
> 
> How can I let this form know that I want to run a given form in 
> DataSheet mode? Even though I set its default mode to DS, it doesn't 
> seem to help.
> 

Pass the form name as "ds" & frmMyForm.name(for DataSheet) or "fv" & 
frmMyForm.name (for FormView). Then parse OpenArgs for these characters as 
well.




 -- 
Stuart




From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Thu Apr  7 17:03:02 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:03:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC04F3C4@dewey.Symphony.local>

December 1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby,
Jurgen Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among
others.

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com




From drboz at pacbell.net  Thu Apr  7 17:10:24 2005
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:10:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
References: <006d01c53b83$b7eb68a0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <007901c53bbe$993ec560$7f00470a@Drblaptop>

John,

    I've a daughter 36 and a son 7, and lets just say I'm 60+.  First thing 
I noticed is that it's easier when you're older... not that he doesn't wear 
me out, cause he does.  But my priorities are so different now than when I 
was in my 20's... I'm having a ball with this little guy!!  Couple of weeks 
ago we took him to Legoland and Disneyland... 4 days of keeping up with him 
was a real challenge.  If I'd have had to run a footrace to save my butt I'd 
have been in a world of trouble.  But it was so doggone much fun watching 
him have fun that I'd do  it again in a heartbeat.

Best wishes, and enjoy!!

Don B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:08 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


> Yea, that too.  This little guy literally runs in circles up the hall,
> around the living room / dining room and back down the hall to his room,
> running laps 15 or 20 at a time just to get his energy out.
>
> I drink diet Pepsi all day just to get up the energy to go to the bathroom
> to get rid of all the diet Pepsi.  Kinda puts things into perspective.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:53 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
>
>
> Don't you mean its Tough for a 4 year old going as SLOW as 50+ old  boy!
> <Select grin =  "Big">
>
> Wish you and your boss(wife) a sucessful day in court and not too many
> sleepless nights.
>
> johnb
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Apr  7 17:49:44 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 23:49:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC04F3C4@dewey.Symphony.local>
Message-ID: <000001c53bc4$180affd0$581a0c54@minster33c3r25>

Comparative newbie, sometime mid-2000.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Steve Capistrant
> Sent: 07 April 2005 23:03
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
> 
> 
> December 1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John 
> Colby, Jurgen Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur 
> Fuller, among others.
> 
> Steve Capistrant
> scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
> Symphony Information Services
> 7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
> Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
> 763-391-7400
> www.symphonyinfo.com
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  7 18:10:07 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:10:07 -0400
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
	MadeIt - Thanks)
In-Reply-To: <20050407211735.B04C740016@omta16.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <000501c53bc6$f691f090$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the
> website of all list members...It would be interesting to see 
> how long people have actually been using Accessd.  I've used 
> this group religiously since 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr  7 18:18:49 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:18:49 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A90134C4B6@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi all
Ditto to Steve
"1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby, Jurgen
Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among others"

Sometime in 1999 I think
The list was 'hosted' somewhere else and then we 'became' AccessD after
some hosting ructions
Now...here we are - alive and kickin'

I have said it before and I will say it again
I could not have gone past a Simple Select query were it not for the
people on this list 
(As well as the web pages of Gurus we all know so well) (I did
everything and I mean everything in Macros)
The willingness to share complex and very hard fought over code as well
as a genuine desire to 'solve' 
or offer solutions to the myriad of issues that come up, is truly
remarkable in this age of copyright, Intellectual property and
all the rest of the commercial "protect thyne A**" world. Testimony to
this list's generosity.

I remember getting my first 'Browse' dialogue box to work WOW - it
actually opened and returned a file name WOW
I remember thinking I can interface with Windows - WooHoo - I showed my
(Mostly unimpressed) Wife who went on muttering
something about being a propeller-head. Go figure.
She -the unimpressed -refers to you guys as "Your nerd mates on the
List" :-)) (Love it)

Not to mention the friendships - Even had a Mad Pommies and his charming
and beautiful Wife come over to Oz. We hooked up
and have dinner - with my Wife and I. (Hi Andy)

Not to mention the people I harass on the phone - Hi Andy - Stuart -
Kath et al

Love this list

See ya

Darren


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Capistrant
Sent: Friday, 8 April 2005 8:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 

December 1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby,
Jurgen Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among
others.

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr  7 18:32:01 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 16:32:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873972@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I have no idea how long I've been in AccessD.  Time flies when you're
having fun! <VBG>  I'm a refugee from the Access-L list, but I got bored
over there and decided to hang out in this crowd instead.  Better
arguments over here. LOL

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:34 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


Virginia,

I also remember you.  Congrats on the new career.

This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of all

list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have
actually 
been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 1999.

Anyway, welcome back/congrats Virginia.

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
>Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:56:37 -0400
>
>This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, 
>Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been 
>awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't 
>remember me.
>
>
>
>Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It 
>took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to 
>everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!
>
>
>
>Virginia
>
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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Apr  7 18:50:22 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:50:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form in DS mode
In-Reply-To: <425634A9.3036.4E00336@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <ff.10f4131b.2f867017@aol.com>
	<425634A9.3036.4E00336@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4255C73E.4020904@rogers.com>

Good idea, and fits in with the existing logic. But what do I tell 
Access to do, given that I find "ds" as the prefix or suffix or whatever?


Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>On 7 Apr 2005 at 15:18, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I have a form called frmEventSelector, to which I pass the name of the 
>>report or form I want to run. The Event selector contains a combo that 
>>sets the EventID I want. Then I examine the name of the OpenArgs 
>>argument. Code in the form looks at the prefix, and if it's frm it runs 
>>the form; if it's rpt it runs the form, and if it's qry it runs the query.
>>
>>How can I let this form know that I want to run a given form in 
>>DataSheet mode? Even though I set its default mode to DS, it doesn't 
>>seem to help.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Pass the form name as "ds" & frmMyForm.name(for DataSheet) or "fv" & 
>frmMyForm.name (for FormView). Then parse OpenArgs for these characters as 
>well.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
>Stuart
>
>
>  
>


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  7 19:02:05 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:02:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470390A1BED@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <0IEL00L4QPFHAH@l-daemon>

Hi Virginia:

Us old guys never forget...of course we remember you.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks

This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia

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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Thu Apr  7 19:08:23 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:08:23 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A90134C4B6@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKCEGIFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

I don't know when I first joined, but as Darren mentioned, it wasn't hosted
by the members...I believe it was MtnGroup at the time.

David McAfee

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 4:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Hi all
Ditto to Steve
"1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby, Jurgen
Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among others"

Sometime in 1999 I think
The list was 'hosted' somewhere else and then we 'became' AccessD after
some hosting ructions
Now...here we are - alive and kickin'

I have said it before and I will say it again
I could not have gone past a Simple Select query were it not for the
people on this list
(As well as the web pages of Gurus we all know so well) (I did
everything and I mean everything in Macros)
The willingness to share complex and very hard fought over code as well
as a genuine desire to 'solve'
or offer solutions to the myriad of issues that come up, is truly
remarkable in this age of copyright, Intellectual property and
all the rest of the commercial "protect thyne A**" world. Testimony to
this list's generosity.

I remember getting my first 'Browse' dialogue box to work WOW - it
actually opened and returned a file name WOW
I remember thinking I can interface with Windows - WooHoo - I showed my
(Mostly unimpressed) Wife who went on muttering
something about being a propeller-head. Go figure.
She -the unimpressed -refers to you guys as "Your nerd mates on the
List" :-)) (Love it)

Not to mention the friendships - Even had a Mad Pommies and his charming
and beautiful Wife come over to Oz. We hooked up
and have dinner - with my Wife and I. (Hi Andy)

Not to mention the people I harass on the phone - Hi Andy - Stuart -
Kath et al

Love this list

See ya

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Capistrant
Sent: Friday, 8 April 2005 8:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?

December 1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby,
Jurgen Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among
others.

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr  7 19:14:11 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:14:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <000101c53ba6$06030bc0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IEL00E1OPZM0B@l-daemon>

John...and shortly there after got into a lengthy 'discussion' about how
'bound forms' were a stupid idea. It is amazing how children can mellow a
person. :-)

...and I am still right. <grin>
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks

I found the list in July of 1997.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:34 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


Virginia,

I also remember you.  Congrats on the new career.

This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of all 
list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have actually 
been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 1999.

Anyway, welcome back/congrats Virginia.

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
>Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:56:37 -0400
>
>This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, 
>Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been 
>awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't 
>remember me.
>
>
>
>Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It 
>took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to 
>everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!
>
>
>
>Virginia
>
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From Jeff at outbaktech.com  Thu Apr  7 19:36:15 2005
From: Jeff at outbaktech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 19:36:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
Message-ID: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D014B04@belgarion.Outbak.local>

04/27/2000 hosted by The Memphis Technology Group, Inc. MS Access List
[accessd]

 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
dmcafee at pacbell.net
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 

I don't know when I first joined, but as Darren mentioned, it wasn't
hosted
by the members...I believe it was MtnGroup at the time.

David McAfee

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 4:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Hi all
Ditto to Steve
"1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby, Jurgen
Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among others"

Sometime in 1999 I think
The list was 'hosted' somewhere else and then we 'became' AccessD after
some hosting ructions
Now...here we are - alive and kickin'

I have said it before and I will say it again
I could not have gone past a Simple Select query were it not for the
people on this list
(As well as the web pages of Gurus we all know so well) (I did
everything and I mean everything in Macros)
The willingness to share complex and very hard fought over code as well
as a genuine desire to 'solve'
or offer solutions to the myriad of issues that come up, is truly
remarkable in this age of copyright, Intellectual property and
all the rest of the commercial "protect thyne A**" world. Testimony to
this list's generosity.

I remember getting my first 'Browse' dialogue box to work WOW - it
actually opened and returned a file name WOW
I remember thinking I can interface with Windows - WooHoo - I showed my
(Mostly unimpressed) Wife who went on muttering
something about being a propeller-head. Go figure.
She -the unimpressed -refers to you guys as "Your nerd mates on the
List" :-)) (Love it)

Not to mention the friendships - Even had a Mad Pommies and his charming
and beautiful Wife come over to Oz. We hooked up
and have dinner - with my Wife and I. (Hi Andy)

Not to mention the people I harass on the phone - Hi Andy - Stuart -
Kath et al

Love this list

See ya

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Capistrant
Sent: Friday, 8 April 2005 8:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?

December 1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby,
Jurgen Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among
others.

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr  7 20:13:29 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:13:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <0IEL00E1OPZM0B@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000801c53bd8$2c7d48b0$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

LOL.  And in the years since I have never needed an unbound data entry form
until... Now.  Just goes to show...

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


John...and shortly there after got into a lengthy 'discussion' about how
'bound forms' were a stupid idea. It is amazing how children can mellow a
person. :-)

...and I am still right. <grin>
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:14 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks

I found the list in July of 1997.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:34 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


Virginia,

I also remember you.  Congrats on the new career.

This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of all 
list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have actually 
been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 1999.

Anyway, welcome back/congrats Virginia.

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Hollis,Virginia" <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
>Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:56:37 -0400
>
>This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
>Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been 
>awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't 
>remember me.
>
>
>
>Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
>took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to 
>everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!
>
>
>
>Virginia
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr  7 21:39:23 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:39:23 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Open a form in DS mode
In-Reply-To: <4255C73E.4020904@rogers.com>
References: <425634A9.3036.4E00336@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42567B7B.24832.5F4A96A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 7 Apr 2005 at 19:50, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> >>How can I let this form know that I want to run a given form in 
> >>DataSheet mode? Even though I set its default mode to DS, it doesn't seem
> >>to help.
> >Pass the form name as "ds" & frmMyForm.name(for DataSheet) or "fv" & 
> >frmMyForm.name (for FormView). Then parse OpenArgs for these characters as
> >well.
> Good idea, and fits in with the existing logic. But what do I tell 
> Access to do, given that I find "ds" as the prefix or suffix or whatever?

Select Case left$(OpenArgs,3)
   Case "qry"
        .......
   Case "rpt"
        ......
   Case "dsf"
       docmd.openform mid$(OpenArgs,3),acFormDS
   Case "fvf"
      docmd.openform mid$(OpenArgs,3),acFormNormal
   Case Else
End Select

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Apr  7 22:27:23 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:27:23 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Trouble Shooting Help X Posted
Message-ID: <200504080327.j383RCi08625@databaseadvisors.com>

 

The setup:

 

I have a split MDB where the network person for their reason has put both
ends on the server.

 

The files are Master.mdb and Data.MDB. There is a third file called user.mdb
User.MDB is a front end that also hits data.mdb. User is created by making
updates to master.MDB and then removing 2 forms that 2cnd person is not to
be able to edit. The users are in separate offices of the company about 40
miles apart.

 

The office manager in Office one uses Master.mdb by VPN. The order person in
office 2 reaches the server through remote desktop connection. They both run
Access locally on their machines. Network is W2k

 

*	Last Friday I installed the latest upgrades at office one, and
received client acceptance. I then called the remote office to confirm
functionality there. She claimed that she was getting a second report on
every Purchase Order she did. This second report is only supposed to print
when certain materials are ordered. The Purchase Orders and reports work ok
in the main office. Can anyone think of reason why this would be happening?

 

Thanks

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Apr  7 22:31:45 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:31:45 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Can an Access mdb tell how it is being reached?
Message-ID: <200504080331.j383VXi09655@databaseadvisors.com>

Can an mdb on a server tell if it being contacted by VPN or remote desktop?

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Apr  7 22:38:27 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:38:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Form Question
Message-ID: <200504080338.j383cFi11180@databaseadvisors.com>

I have an MDB where the boss needs everything but other user should be
blocked from 2 forms.

 

What I have been doing is making 2 MDBs and just deleting the 2 forms from
the second MDB.

 

If only these 2 users work with the data is there an easier way to do this?

 

Thanks

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 



From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Thu Apr  7 23:03:23 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:03:23 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re:Going live in the game of life
Message-ID: <OF41970E29.D3B21C1D-ONCA256FDD.0015F682@agric.nsw.gov.au>


hey John,

Congratulations!!!
I will pray for you and ask a blessing for your family :)
You have so many great things to share with them yet... and 50 isn't old!

And as a mother of 3 teenagers (from 12 to 17) at 38 beleive me it isn't
any easier that way LOL, I still remember what I got up to at 17!

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


I just wanted to let the group know that my wife and I are "going live".
As
many of you probably know Mary and I are foster parents of two of the
cutest
kids on two legs (every parent says that right?;-).  We got Robbie first,
when he was 16 months old and he just turned 4 years old last week.  We got
Allie when she was 3 days old and she is now 21 months.

The big news is that we got a court date for the adoptions, both of them
will be processed on the same day, Thursday April 14th.  So in less than 2
weeks we will be the adoptive parents of two of the cutest kids on two legs
(well, they ARE).

Keep us in your thoughts and prayers as at 50+ we are damned old to be
doing
this (or it feels that way anyway).  It's TOUGH keeping up with a 4 year
old
boy when you're 50!  It's tough (at any age probably) even outsmarting a 4
year old boy.  With any luck though he'll be an employee in my company in
about 5 years pulling in a high 5 figure salary and padding my retirement
account <grin>.

John W. Colby
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From roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk  Fri Apr  8 03:26:06 2005
From: roz.clarke at donnslaw.co.uk (Roz Clarke)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:26:06 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday punnery
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C8318807225829@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

These are old but still good. 


1. A vulture boards an airplane, carrying two dead raccoons. The stewardess 
looks at him and says, "I'm sorry, sir, only one carrion allowed per 
passenger." 

2. Two fish swim into a concrete wall. The one turns to the other and says: 
"Dam!" 

3. Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, so they lit a fire in the 
craft. Unsurprisingly it sank, proving once again that you can't have your 
kayak and heat it. 

4. Two hydrogen atoms meet. One says "I've lost my electron." The other says

"Are you sure?" The first replies "Yes, I'm positive." 

5. Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain during a root canal?

His goal: transcend dental medication. 

6. A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and were standing in 
the lobby discussing their recent tournament victories. After about an hour,

the manager came out of the office and asked them to disperse. "But why?" 
they asked. "Because I can't stand chess-nuts boasting in an open foyer." 

7. A woman has twins and gives them up for adoption. One of them goes to a 
family in Egypt and is named "Ahmal." The other goes to a family in Spain; 
they name him "Juan." Years later, Juan sends a picture of himself to his 
birth mother. Upon receiving the picture, she tells her husband that she 
wishes she also had a picture of Ahmal. Her husband responds, "They're 
twins! If you've seen Juan, you've seen Ahmal." 

8. Friars behind on their belfry payments opened a small florist shop to 
raise funds. Since everyone liked to buy flowers from the men of God a rival

florist across town thought the competition was unfair. He asked the good 
fathers to close down, but they would not. The rival florist then hired Hugh

MacTaggart, a thug, to "persuade" them to close. Hugh beat up the friars and

trashed their store, saying he'd be back if they didn't close up shop. 
Terrified, they did so, thereby proving that: Only Hugh can  prevent florist

friars. 

9. Mahatma Gandhi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the time, which 
produced an impressive set of calluses on his feet. He also ate very little,

which made him rather frail and with his odd diet, he suffered from bad 
breath. This made him a super calloused fragile mystic hexed by  h alitosis.


10. And finally, there was the person who sent ten different puns to 
friends, with the hope that at least one of the puns would make them laugh. 
But of course, No pun in ten did! 



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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Fri Apr  8 04:04:56 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:04:56 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Form Question
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Hi Joe!

I have a different but similar requirement (huh?) on one of my databases.

I (as db admin) have access to everything but several forms are unavailable
for all other users.

How are your two users getting to the forms? Via a "switchboard" type menu?

If so you could detect the user name and open one of two different
switchboards depending who the user is.

I've got a bit of code that retrieves the users Log in name.

If this is the way you want to go please let me know and I'll go into more
detail.

Regards!
Chris Foote (UK)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Hecht [mailto:jmhla at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:38 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Form Question
> 
> 
> I have an MDB where the boss needs everything but other user should be
> blocked from 2 forms.
> 
> What I have been doing is making 2 MDBs and just deleting the 
> 2 forms from
> the second MDB.
> 
> If only these 2 users work with the data is there an easier 
> way to do this?
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
> Joe Hecht
> 
> jmhla at earthlink.net
> 
> 28g


From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Fri Apr  8 07:01:02 2005
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:01:02 -0400
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
	MadeIt - Thanks)
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Message-ID: <000d01c53c32$a5293620$0b08a845@hargrove.internal>

I found the list back in 1996.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com




From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Fri Apr  8 07:51:14 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:51:14 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B59D4@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the
E-mails, probably a year or so.

I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails?
I now have 111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
:-)

Erwin


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house
in Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn
Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of 
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have

> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 
> 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From greggs at msn.com  Fri Apr  8 07:53:59 2005
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 07:53:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374E6@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV1579E12530359B25615E01C63F0@phx.gbl>

Maybe sometimes but one incident he sited was a continuous subform was missing everything.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hale, Jim<mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:25 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data


  Is he hitting a carriage return or other character such as a tab that is
  being captured and  causing the data to wrap?
  Jim Hale

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  Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:14 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Cc: Robert Penn
  Subject: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data


  I have a customer who can't always see all his data.  When it started, half
  of the text was missing from a text box.  He entered the missing text, went
  out and back in, and both the new text and the old text appeared.  It
  happened to him again only this time in a subform, all the data was missing.
  retype, leave, return, and all data is duplicated.

  This is visible on multiple systems (he has 6).  Each user has their own FE
  on 2002.  The server is running windows 2000 (last time I was there).  It is
  also happening in different apps.  It's happened a 3rd time in a completely
  different app.  Any ideas? 

  Thanks for all your help!
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Fri Apr  8 07:54:44 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 07:54:44 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485CA6@natexch.jenkens.com>

I must have joined in 1999 also.  I know it was not long after I started my
current job that I found the list through Dev Ashish's web site.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Dick [mailto:D.Dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 


Hi all
Ditto to Steve
"1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby, Jurgen
Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among others"

Sometime in 1999 I think
The list was 'hosted' somewhere else and then we 'became' AccessD after
some hosting ructions
Now...here we are - alive and kickin'

I have said it before and I will say it again
I could not have gone past a Simple Select query were it not for the
people on this list 
(As well as the web pages of Gurus we all know so well) (I did
everything and I mean everything in Macros)
The willingness to share complex and very hard fought over code as well
as a genuine desire to 'solve' 
or offer solutions to the myriad of issues that come up, is truly
remarkable in this age of copyright, Intellectual property and
all the rest of the commercial "protect thyne A**" world. Testimony to
this list's generosity.

I remember getting my first 'Browse' dialogue box to work WOW - it
actually opened and returned a file name WOW
I remember thinking I can interface with Windows - WooHoo - I showed my
(Mostly unimpressed) Wife who went on muttering
something about being a propeller-head. Go figure.
She -the unimpressed -refers to you guys as "Your nerd mates on the
List" :-)) (Love it)

Not to mention the friendships - Even had a Mad Pommies and his charming
and beautiful Wife come over to Oz. We hooked up
and have dinner - with my Wife and I. (Hi Andy)

Not to mention the people I harass on the phone - Hi Andy - Stuart -
Kath et al

Love this list

See ya

Darren


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Capistrant
Sent: Friday, 8 April 2005 8:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 

December 1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby,
Jurgen Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among
others.

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
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From greggs at msn.com  Fri Apr  8 08:00:33 2005
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:00:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data
References: <s2550b27.001@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV3F559D38385B5A6B91DB4C63F0@phx.gbl>

Thanks Gustav, I'll check it out.
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  From: Gustav Brock<mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk> 
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  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Loss of Data


  Hi Greggs

  It could be due to file caching on either the server, the network
  client or both.
  Check with your network admin.

  /gustav

  >>> greggs at msn.com<mailto:greggs at msn.com> 04/06 10:13 pm >>>
  I have a customer who can't always see all his data.  When it started,
  half of the text was missing from a text box.  He entered the missing
  text, went out and back in, and both the new text and the old text
  appeared.  It happened to him again only this time in a subform, all the
  data was missing. retype, leave, return, and all data is duplicated.

  This is visible on multiple systems (he has 6).  Each user has their
  own FE on 2002.  The server is running windows 2000 (last time I was
  there).  It is also happening in different apps.  It's happened a 3rd
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr  8 08:01:20 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:01:20 -0400
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
	FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)
In-Reply-To: <000d01c53c32$a5293620$0b08a845@hargrove.internal>
Message-ID: <20050408130121.BOMC2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I don't remember exactly when, but I think I've been on (off and on) for
about that long. 

When I started with Cobb in 92, we didn't have Internet access. Even after I
started using the Internet, all I really had available was CompuServe and
AOL and Cobb tried to create a rather large presence on AOL, and it worked
for a while, but as trends do, it eventually faded. Those were the days
before Internet Explorer even and I was using.. Dang... Netscape I think. :)
I was the only Cobbers that had regular and frequent chats and supported a
message board. It was good fun for a while. Once, the company had sponsored
this huge Cobb chat -- and all that showed up were Cobbers. In retrospect,
it's funny, but at the time, it was very disappointing for many. But for
some reason, the smaller Access chats always got a decent showing -- it went
strong for well over a year. 

I think my interaction with AccessD probably came after that initial online
surge, but I'm sure there was some overlap there. 

I never could get the hang of CompuServe.  

Susan H. 

I found the list back in 1996.




From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Fri Apr  8 08:12:02 2005
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:12:02 +0100 
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finall
	yMadeIt - Thanks)
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CB1E@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Nothing so in depth, I'm afraid.  Roz put me on to it as she got me writing
a rather tricky application, which we now have off the ground and in daily
use.  I'd never, ever written an Access app before (or used Informix - FYI
the two really, REALLY don't like each other) and I needed help!  Hopefully
I can now offer some as well, having had quality advice a-plenty...




-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: 08 April 2005 13:01
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

I don't remember exactly when, but I think I've been on (off and on) for
about that long. 

When I started with Cobb in 92, we didn't have Internet access. Even after I
started using the Internet, all I really had available was CompuServe and
AOL and Cobb tried to create a rather large presence on AOL, and it worked
for a while, but as trends do, it eventually faded. Those were the days
before Internet Explorer even and I was using.. Dang... Netscape I think. :)
I was the only Cobbers that had regular and frequent chats and supported a
message board. It was good fun for a while. Once, the company had sponsored
this huge Cobb chat -- and all that showed up were Cobbers. In retrospect,
it's funny, but at the time, it was very disappointing for many. But for
some reason, the smaller Access chats always got a decent showing -- it went
strong for well over a year. 

I think my interaction with AccessD probably came after that initial online
surge, but I'm sure there was some overlap there. 

I never could get the hang of CompuServe.  

Susan H. 

I found the list back in 1996.


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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Fri Apr  8 08:11:43 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:11:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Can an Access mdb tell how it is being reached?
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D13@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

I don't think Access could tell you, but if you're lucky you might be able to tell.

If someone makes a VPN connection they have to authenticate to the VPN server or it's domain. If they use remote desktop they have to authenticate either to the computer being connected to, or to that computer's domain. So you can query the Environ() function to return the "USERNAME" amd "USERDOMAIN" environment variables.

Now, I'm guessing that by VPN you mean that they will access the database using a mapped drive or UNC path across the VPN. Here comes the luck part. With luck, when using the VPN they have authenticated locally first. This means that probably the "USERDOMAIN" and possibly the "USERNAME" variables will be different when using a VPN vs. remote desktop.

Neal

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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Can an Access mdb tell how it is being reached?


Can an mdb on a server tell if it being contacted by VPN or remote desktop?

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Fri Apr  8 09:44:03 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 10:44:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Skipping field in report/labels
Message-ID: <s25660cc.057@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Thanks for the help Susan...and others...but what I was actually missing
was the 'Can Grow', which I hadn't thought was necessary. We could
actually get the field to disappear, but the whole row would be gone.  I
hate when something at this level...I see thsi as an Access 101 leve
problem...hold me up, when I feel that I am at a higher level...oh, I'm
definitely humbled by the people on this list, but around here, I'm the
"Access Guy!"

Thanks again!
John Clark

>>> susanj at sgmeet.com 4/6/2005 2:44:30 PM >>>
The setting you're looking for is the 'Can Shrink' option in the design

view.  Set it to yes.
Susan


At 01:19 PM 4/6/05, you wrote:
>I thought there was a setting for this, but I don't see it.
>
>A coworker of mine has whipped up a quick labels program, using A2K.
>There is an "Address1" field and "Address2." as you might expect,
many
>times there is no secondary address info and he wants to ignor this
>then. It currently leaves a blank line, and he wants to push things
up.
>How can we do this?
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From john at winhaven.net  Fri Apr  8 09:58:00 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:58:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B59D4@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <200504081458.j38Ew328388002@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

:o)

I had been archiving all emails until Drew offered to develop a searchable
web interface and requested old archives. I contacted him and sent him
everything I had. After that I gave up my whole archiving habits and
depended on Drew's!

Gladly too. Using Outlook I had just released a huge pile of hard drive
space! (Which back then was a little more valuable.)

Now, every now and then I go through the topics and try to catch up and then
I delete everything 3 months or older.
:o)

I really can't remember exactly when I got on the list but I think it was
1999. There haven't been any names mentioned that I don't remember seeing on
the list except Dev Ashish. I don't think he ever posted anything here since
I've been on but I could certainly be mistaken.


John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the E-mails,
probably a year or so.

I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails?
I now have 111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
:-)

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of 
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have

> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 
> 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From alan.lawhon at us.army.mil  Fri Apr  8 11:01:15 2005
From: alan.lawhon at us.army.mil (Lawhon, Alan C Contractor/Morgan Research)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:01:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Anatomy of an IT Disaster: How the FBI Blew It
Message-ID: <5D5043687CFCE44288407A73E4CC6E179BB42F@redstone819.ad.redstone.army.mil>

Here's an interesting article on the continuing effort to try and
modernize antiquated information systems at the FBI.

 

 

     http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/03/21/12FEfbi_1.html

 

 

Part of the "problem" at the FBI is that computers, software, and
information technology have always been looked down on by the agents.
The special agents are more into grilling suspects, chasing leads,
listening to mobsters on wire tapped phone lines, and catching bank
robbers than they are in sitting at a computer terminal typing an email.
Probably the most glaring example of this mindset occurred when [former]
FBI Director Louis Freeh was shown his office on his first day as FBI
Director.  (Freeh was FBI Director under President Bill Clinton.)
According to people present, Louis Freeh noticed a monitor mounted on a
desk directly behind his swivel chair.  He asked, "What's this?" and was
told, "It's a computer."  Louis Freeh then turned to one of his aides
and said, "Get it out of here."  Word of this exchange quickly filtered
down to all levels of the organization ...

 

Of course, September 11th changed everything at the FBI.  When it was
discovered that agents in the various field offices couldn't even
communicate with each other via email, there was a sudden epiphany that
they needed to get their IT operation into the 21st century.  This
sudden "sense of urgency" at the upper levels of the agency [to get
modernized] was probably heightened by a fear that if the FBI didn't get
its act together, other agencies, (like for instance the CIA or the
Department of Homeland Security), might start trying to persuade members
of Congress that terrorism and anti-terrorism efforts should be handled
by them instead of the FBI.

 

Constant turf battles are an everyday fact of life in the Government ...

 

Alan C. Lawhon

 

 

 



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr  8 11:07:22 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:07:22 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D379@main2.marlow.com>

I'd like everyone to note that I wasn't listed in the list of 'OLD' List
members! <grin>  Made me feel almost as giddy as I do when I get carded for
cigarettes! 

Congrats Virginia!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr  8 11:09:44 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:09:44 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D37A@main2.marlow.com>

Which reminds me, just as an FYI to the list, the archives I'm hosting have
not been updated since October, roughly around the time since I was hit by
that drunk driver.  We were in the middle of moving to Active Directory, and
we demoted our Exchange Server from being a Domain Controller.  Since then,
the original 'archive' code I wrote hasn't been working.  I'm finishing up a
little pet project at the moment, when that's done, I'm going to modify the
archive code to let it catch up and start updating again.

Drew

P.S.--  It was Darren Dick who dragged me to this list, by the way! <grin>

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


:o)

I had been archiving all emails until Drew offered to develop a searchable
web interface and requested old archives. I contacted him and sent him
everything I had. After that I gave up my whole archiving habits and
depended on Drew's!

Gladly too. Using Outlook I had just released a huge pile of hard drive
space! (Which back then was a little more valuable.)

Now, every now and then I go through the topics and try to catch up and then
I delete everything 3 months or older.
:o)

I really can't remember exactly when I got on the list but I think it was
1999. There haven't been any names mentioned that I don't remember seeing on
the list except Dev Ashish. I don't think he ever posted anything here since
I've been on but I could certainly be mistaken.


John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the E-mails,
probably a year or so.

I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails?
I now have 111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
:-)

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of 
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have

> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 
> 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com  Fri Apr  8 11:29:18 2005
From: scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com (Steve Capistrant)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:29:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC04F3D2@dewey.Symphony.local>

Oops.  I looked at my archives and you ARE definitely old.  :)

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:16 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks

I'd like everyone to note that I wasn't listed in the list of 'OLD' List
members! <grin>  Made me feel almost as giddy as I do when I get carded
for
cigarettes! 




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr  8 11:30:00 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:30:00 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D37E@main2.marlow.com>

Okay, that is not the way to bring someone down from a youthful high.......

Sheesh.....

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Capistrant [mailto:scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


Oops.  I looked at my archives and you ARE definitely old.  :)

Steve Capistrant
scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com
Symphony Information Services
7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
Brooklyn Park, MN  55428
763-391-7400
www.symphonyinfo.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:16 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks

I'd like everyone to note that I wasn't listed in the list of 'OLD' List
members! <grin>  Made me feel almost as giddy as I do when I get carded
for
cigarettes! 


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Apr  8 12:10:37 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:10:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D37A@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <000d01c53c5d$e252a7e0$581a0c54@minster33c3r25>

Yea but we've forgiven him  ;-)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: 08 April 2005 17:10
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> Which reminds me, just as an FYI to the list, the archives 
> I'm hosting have not been updated since October, roughly 
> around the time since I was hit by that drunk driver.  We 
> were in the middle of moving to Active Directory, and we 
> demoted our Exchange Server from being a Domain Controller.  
> Since then, the original 'archive' code I wrote hasn't been 
> working.  I'm finishing up a little pet project at the 
> moment, when that's done, I'm going to modify the archive 
> code to let it catch up and start updating again.
> 
> Drew
> 
> P.S.--  It was Darren Dick who dragged me to this list, by 
> the way! <grin>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> :o)
> 
> I had been archiving all emails until Drew offered to develop 
> a searchable web interface and requested old archives. I 
> contacted him and sent him everything I had. After that I 
> gave up my whole archiving habits and depended on Drew's!
> 
> Gladly too. Using Outlook I had just released a huge pile of 
> hard drive space! (Which back then was a little more valuable.)
> 
> Now, every now and then I go through the topics and try to 
> catch up and then I delete everything 3 months or older.
> :o)
> 
> I really can't remember exactly when I got on the list but I 
> think it was 1999. There haven't been any names mentioned 
> that I don't remember seeing on the list except Dev Ashish. I 
> don't think he ever posted anything here since I've been on 
> but I could certainly be mistaken.
> 
> 
> John B.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Erwin Craps - IT Helps
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:51 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
> I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not 
> archived the E-mails, probably a year or so.
> 
> I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived 
> E-mails? I now have 111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
> :-)
> 
> Erwin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> John W. Colby
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: 
> [AccessD] OT: FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at 
> Rockie's house in Del Mar, CA.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kathryn Bassett
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] 
> OT: Finally MadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> 
> Mark A Matte asked:
> > This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
> > all list members...It would be interesting to see how long 
> people have
> 
> > actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
> > 1999.
> 
> John W. Colby:
> > I found the list in July of 1997.
> 
> Kathryn Bassett:
> I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr  8 12:25:41 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 19:25:41 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Form Positioning
Message-ID: <s256dacd.041@cactus.dk>

Hi Joe

We use the module below for basic screen metrics.
You should be able to use the sub CenterForm to model your PositionForm
sub by using the handle of the other form and not GetParent().

/gustav

<code>

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

' Windows handle of desktop.
Private Const HWND_DESKTOP    As Long = 0
' Number of Twips per inch.
Private Const TWIPS_PER_INCH  As Long = 1440
' Pixel width.
Private Const LOGPIXELSX      As Long = 88
' Pixel height.
Private Const LOGPIXELSY      As Long = 90
' Screen width.
Private Const SM_CXSCREEN     As Long = 0
' Screen height.
Private Const SM_CYSCREEN     As Long = 1

Public Type RECT
  Left   As Long
  Top    As Long
  Right  As Long
  Bottom As Long
End Type
  
Private Declare Function GetSystemMetrics Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal nIndex As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function GetDC Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
  As Long
  
Private Declare Function ReleaseDC Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
  ByVal hdc As Long) _
  As Long
  
Private Declare Function GetDeviceCaps Lib "gdi32" ( _
  ByVal hdc As Long, _
  ByVal nIndex As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function GetParent Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function GetWindowRect Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
  lpRect As RECT) _
  As Long

Public Declare Function MoveWindow Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
  ByVal X As Long, _
  ByVal Y As Long, _
  ByVal nWidth As Long, _
  ByVal nHeight As Long, _
  ByVal bRepaint As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function ScreenWidth() As Long

' Returns the width of the screen in pixels.

  ScreenWidth = GetSystemMetrics(SM_CXSCREEN)
  
End Function

Public Function ScreenHeight() As Long

' Returns the height of the screen in pixels.

  ScreenHeight = GetSystemMetrics(SM_CYSCREEN)
  
End Function

Public Function TwipsPerPixelX() As Single

' Returns the width of a pixel, in twips.
  
  Dim lngDC             As Long
  Dim sngTwipsPerPixel  As Single
  
  lngDC = GetDC(HWND_DESKTOP)
  sngTwipsPerPixel = TWIPS_PER_INCH / GetDeviceCaps(lngDC, LOGPIXELSX)
  ReleaseDC HWND_DESKTOP, lngDC
  
  TwipsPerPixelX = sngTwipsPerPixel

End Function

Public Function TwipsPerPixelY() As Single

' Returns the height of a pixel, in twips.
  
  Dim lngDC             As Long
  Dim sngTwipsPerPixel  As Single
  
  lngDC = GetDC(HWND_DESKTOP)
  sngTwipsPerPixel = TWIPS_PER_INCH / GetDeviceCaps(lngDC, LOGPIXELSY)
  ReleaseDC HWND_DESKTOP, lngDC

  TwipsPerPixelY = sngTwipsPerPixel

End Function

Public Sub CenterForm(frm As Form)

  Dim rctMDI    As RECT
  Dim lngRetVal As Long
  Dim lngWidth  As Long
  Dim lngHeight As Long
  Dim lngLeft   As Long
  Dim lngTop    As Long
  
  lngRetVal = GetWindowRect(GetParent(frm.hwnd), rctMDI)
  
  lngWidth = frm.WindowWidth \ CLng(TwipsPerPixelX())
  lngHeight = frm.WindowHeight \ CLng(TwipsPerPixelY())
  lngLeft = (rctMDI.Right - rctMDI.Left - lngWidth) \ 2
  If lngLeft < 0 Then
    lngLeft = 0
  End If
  lngTop = (rctMDI.Bottom - rctMDI.Top - lngHeight) \ 2
  If lngTop < 0 Then
    lngTop = 0
  End If
  
  lngRetVal = MoveWindow(frm.hwnd, lngLeft, lngTop, lngWidth,
lngHeight, True)

End Sub

</code>

>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/06 10:33 pm >>>
Hi All,

I want to open a form in a specific location with relation to another
form.
How can I do this?

Thanks!
JR



From bstear at gmail.com  Fri Apr  8 12:26:51 2005
From: bstear at gmail.com (Barry Stear)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:26:51 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Picture
Message-ID: <1af6886405040810264859e924@mail.gmail.com>

I copied the EVENT for inserting an picture from the Sample Database
that comes with Access 2003 (NorthWind Sample Database) . However when
I try to click on the button to insert an picture it errors out in the
code at Sub getFileName(). It says that its not defined. It highlights
in blue msoFileDialogFilePicker and has an Yellow Arrow next to Sub
getFileName(). Here is the procedure.

Sub getFileName()
    ' Displays the Office File Open dialog to choose a file name
    ' for the current employee record.  If the user selects a file
    ' display it in the image control.
    Dim fileName As String
    Dim result As Integer
    With Application.FileDialog(msoFileDialogFilePicker)
        .Title = "Select Employee Picture"
        .Filters.Add "All Files", "*.*"
        .Filters.Add "JPEGs", "*.jpg"
        .Filters.Add "Bitmaps", "*.bmp"
        .FilterIndex = 3
        .AllowMultiSelect = False
        .InitialFileName = CurrentProject.path
        result = .Show
        If (result <> 0) Then
            fileName = Trim(.SelectedItems.Item(1))
            Me![ImagePath].Visible = True
            Me![ImagePath].SetFocus
            Me![ImagePath].Text = fileName
            Me![FirstName].SetFocus
            Me![ImagePath].Visible = False
        End If
    End With
End Sub


Anyone help me with this code or perhaps something else I can use. I
want to be able to put an picture in my Inventory list. I know I can
embed it but its nice to be able to do it from within an form with an
button.

Barry


From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Apr  8 12:31:23 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:31:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Picture
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43013BD206@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Check the references.  I think that is the one that requires Microsoft
Office 10.0 or greater to work.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barry Stear
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:27 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Picture


I copied the EVENT for inserting an picture from the Sample Database
that comes with Access 2003 (NorthWind Sample Database) . However when
I try to click on the button to insert an picture it errors out in the
code at Sub getFileName(). It says that its not defined. It highlights
in blue msoFileDialogFilePicker and has an Yellow Arrow next to Sub
getFileName(). Here is the procedure.

Sub getFileName()
    ' Displays the Office File Open dialog to choose a file name
    ' for the current employee record.  If the user selects a file
    ' display it in the image control.
    Dim fileName As String
    Dim result As Integer
    With Application.FileDialog(msoFileDialogFilePicker)
        .Title = "Select Employee Picture"
        .Filters.Add "All Files", "*.*"
        .Filters.Add "JPEGs", "*.jpg"
        .Filters.Add "Bitmaps", "*.bmp"
        .FilterIndex = 3
        .AllowMultiSelect = False
        .InitialFileName = CurrentProject.path
        result = .Show
        If (result <> 0) Then
            fileName = Trim(.SelectedItems.Item(1))
            Me![ImagePath].Visible = True
            Me![ImagePath].SetFocus
            Me![ImagePath].Text = fileName
            Me![FirstName].SetFocus
            Me![ImagePath].Visible = False
        End If
    End With
End Sub


Anyone help me with this code or perhaps something else I can use. I
want to be able to put an picture in my Inventory list. I know I can
embed it but its nice to be able to do it from within an form with an
button.

Barry
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Fri Apr  8 12:40:49 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:40:49 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Form Positioning
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A21E@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks for the help Gustav!

JR
-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:26 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Form Positioning

Hi Joe

We use the module below for basic screen metrics.
You should be able to use the sub CenterForm to model your PositionForm
sub by using the handle of the other form and not GetParent().

/gustav

<code>

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

' Windows handle of desktop.
Private Const HWND_DESKTOP    As Long = 0
' Number of Twips per inch.
Private Const TWIPS_PER_INCH  As Long = 1440
' Pixel width.
Private Const LOGPIXELSX      As Long = 88
' Pixel height.
Private Const LOGPIXELSY      As Long = 90
' Screen width.
Private Const SM_CXSCREEN     As Long = 0
' Screen height.
Private Const SM_CYSCREEN     As Long = 1

Public Type RECT
  Left   As Long
  Top    As Long
  Right  As Long
  Bottom As Long
End Type
 
Private Declare Function GetSystemMetrics Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal nIndex As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function GetDC Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
  As Long
 
Private Declare Function ReleaseDC Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
  ByVal hdc As Long) _
  As Long
 
Private Declare Function GetDeviceCaps Lib "gdi32" ( _
  ByVal hdc As Long, _
  ByVal nIndex As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function GetParent Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function GetWindowRect Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
  lpRect As RECT) _
  As Long

Public Declare Function MoveWindow Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
  ByVal X As Long, _
  ByVal Y As Long, _
  ByVal nWidth As Long, _
  ByVal nHeight As Long, _
  ByVal bRepaint As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function ScreenWidth() As Long

' Returns the width of the screen in pixels.

  ScreenWidth = GetSystemMetrics(SM_CXSCREEN)
 
End Function

Public Function ScreenHeight() As Long

' Returns the height of the screen in pixels.

  ScreenHeight = GetSystemMetrics(SM_CYSCREEN)
 
End Function

Public Function TwipsPerPixelX() As Single

' Returns the width of a pixel, in twips.
 
  Dim lngDC             As Long
  Dim sngTwipsPerPixel  As Single
 
  lngDC = GetDC(HWND_DESKTOP)
  sngTwipsPerPixel = TWIPS_PER_INCH / GetDeviceCaps(lngDC, LOGPIXELSX)
  ReleaseDC HWND_DESKTOP, lngDC
 
  TwipsPerPixelX = sngTwipsPerPixel

End Function

Public Function TwipsPerPixelY() As Single

' Returns the height of a pixel, in twips.
 
  Dim lngDC             As Long
  Dim sngTwipsPerPixel  As Single
 
  lngDC = GetDC(HWND_DESKTOP)
  sngTwipsPerPixel = TWIPS_PER_INCH / GetDeviceCaps(lngDC, LOGPIXELSY)
  ReleaseDC HWND_DESKTOP, lngDC

  TwipsPerPixelY = sngTwipsPerPixel

End Function

Public Sub CenterForm(frm As Form)

  Dim rctMDI    As RECT
  Dim lngRetVal As Long
  Dim lngWidth  As Long
  Dim lngHeight As Long
  Dim lngLeft   As Long
  Dim lngTop    As Long
 
  lngRetVal = GetWindowRect(GetParent(frm.hwnd), rctMDI)
 
  lngWidth = frm.WindowWidth \ CLng(TwipsPerPixelX())
  lngHeight = frm.WindowHeight \ CLng(TwipsPerPixelY())
  lngLeft = (rctMDI.Right - rctMDI.Left - lngWidth) \ 2
  If lngLeft < 0 Then
    lngLeft = 0
  End If
  lngTop = (rctMDI.Bottom - rctMDI.Top - lngHeight) \ 2
  If lngTop < 0 Then
    lngTop = 0
  End If
 
  lngRetVal = MoveWindow(frm.hwnd, lngLeft, lngTop, lngWidth,
lngHeight, True)

End Sub

</code>

>>> JRojas at tnco-inc.com 04/06 10:33 pm >>>
Hi All,

I want to open a form in a specific location with relation to another
form.
How can I do this?

Thanks!
JR

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr  8 12:40:34 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 12:40:34 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D37F@main2.marlow.com>

I haven't yet.... <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Yea but we've forgiven him  ;-)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: 08 April 2005 17:10
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> Which reminds me, just as an FYI to the list, the archives 
> I'm hosting have not been updated since October, roughly 
> around the time since I was hit by that drunk driver.  We 
> were in the middle of moving to Active Directory, and we 
> demoted our Exchange Server from being a Domain Controller.  
> Since then, the original 'archive' code I wrote hasn't been 
> working.  I'm finishing up a little pet project at the 
> moment, when that's done, I'm going to modify the archive 
> code to let it catch up and start updating again.
> 
> Drew
> 
> P.S.--  It was Darren Dick who dragged me to this list, by 
> the way! <grin>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> :o)
> 
> I had been archiving all emails until Drew offered to develop 
> a searchable web interface and requested old archives. I 
> contacted him and sent him everything I had. After that I 
> gave up my whole archiving habits and depended on Drew's!
> 
> Gladly too. Using Outlook I had just released a huge pile of 
> hard drive space! (Which back then was a little more valuable.)
> 
> Now, every now and then I go through the topics and try to 
> catch up and then I delete everything 3 months or older.
> :o)
> 
> I really can't remember exactly when I got on the list but I 
> think it was 1999. There haven't been any names mentioned 
> that I don't remember seeing on the list except Dev Ashish. I 
> don't think he ever posted anything here since I've been on 
> but I could certainly be mistaken.
> 
> 
> John B.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Erwin Craps - IT Helps
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:51 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
> I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not 
> archived the E-mails, probably a year or so.
> 
> I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived 
> E-mails? I now have 111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
> :-)
> 
> Erwin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> John W. Colby
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: 
> [AccessD] OT: FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at 
> Rockie's house in Del Mar, CA.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kathryn Bassett
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] 
> OT: Finally MadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> 
> Mark A Matte asked:
> > This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
> > all list members...It would be interesting to see how long 
> people have
> 
> > actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
> > 1999.
> 
> John W. Colby:
> > I found the list in July of 1997.
> 
> Kathryn Bassett:
> I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.
> 
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Apr  8 13:44:57 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 11:44:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKEEHAFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

I was given a task to quickly come up with a vehicle maintenance schedule
database. before I get further, I was wondering if anyone already has
something in place.

If not, this is what I have so far:

tblModels:
	ModelID PK
	Model (Camaro, Corvette)

tblAutoMfg
	AutoMfgID PK
	AutoMfg (Chevrolet, Honda)

tblMfgModels
	MfgModelID PK
	AutoMfgID FK
	ModelID FK

tblYears
	YearID PK
	ModelYear (2005, 2004, 2003...)

tblAutoYears
	AutoYearID PK
	YearID FK
	MfgModelID FK

I'm looking at schedules that can be either light duty or heavy duty
The maintenance schedules can also be either date based or mileage (or
kilometer based).

Something like Oil Changes, every 3000 miles or 3 months. But some items
have only date based services and others have only mileage based service
intervals.

I was thinking something like
tblMaintenanceTasks
MaintTaskID
MaintTask (Oil Change, Rotate Tires...)

tblIntervals
IntervalID
Interval (3, 3000, 7500...)
IntervalTypeID

tblIntervalType
IntervalType (Miles, Months)

But I was also thinking of making tblIntervals, a little less normalized,
something like:
tblIntervals
IntervalID
IntervalMiles
IntervalKilos
IntervalMonths

I have also not been told if we will be drilling down into sub model type
(i.e. Mustang GT, Mustang LX), so for now, I am assuming that I will be
relating these suggested service maintenance intervals to tblAutoYears.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
David McAfee



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Apr  8 14:16:33 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:16:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
In-Reply-To: <25494692.1112985837759.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAIi/jwHrRQEWV92CFEoSHkgEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Hi Dave,

This is just me but I would combine all these tables into one.  Everything
here defines the vehicle itself.  Make a tblVehicle with appropriate
columns.  You might be able to use the VIN as a no-duplicate index value.  A
related table would contain information about each maintenance event - work
done, cost, hours, owner (maintenance requestor), mechanic, etc.

Or, you might make a table using customer information, and then the vehicle
table would be subordinate to that.  Each customer will have different
vehicles.

The shops where I take my car to get repaired seem to have fairly good
maintenance databases.  Perhaps buying one of those would be what you're
looking for.

HTH,

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
dmcafee at pacbell.net
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:45 PM
To: ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Cc: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)

I was given a task to quickly come up with a vehicle maintenance schedule
database. before I get further, I was wondering if anyone already has
something in place.

If not, this is what I have so far:

tblModels:
	ModelID PK
	Model (Camaro, Corvette)

tblAutoMfg
	AutoMfgID PK
	AutoMfg (Chevrolet, Honda)

tblMfgModels
	MfgModelID PK
	AutoMfgID FK
	ModelID FK

tblYears
	YearID PK
	ModelYear (2005, 2004, 2003...)

tblAutoYears
	AutoYearID PK
	YearID FK
	MfgModelID FK

I'm looking at schedules that can be either light duty or heavy duty
The maintenance schedules can also be either date based or mileage (or
kilometer based).

Something like Oil Changes, every 3000 miles or 3 months. But some items
have only date based services and others have only mileage based service
intervals.

I was thinking something like
tblMaintenanceTasks
MaintTaskID
MaintTask (Oil Change, Rotate Tires...)

tblIntervals
IntervalID
Interval (3, 3000, 7500...)
IntervalTypeID

tblIntervalType
IntervalType (Miles, Months)

But I was also thinking of making tblIntervals, a little less normalized,
something like:
tblIntervals
IntervalID
IntervalMiles
IntervalKilos
IntervalMonths

I have also not been told if we will be drilling down into sub model type
(i.e. Mustang GT, Mustang LX), so for now, I am assuming that I will be
relating these suggested service maintenance intervals to tblAutoYears.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
David McAfee

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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Fri Apr  8 15:14:22 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:14:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKEEHAFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAAEDDCPAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

David, I am also needing to create a maintenance "module" to add to one of
my products.

Maybe we could work together on this - or at least share ideas.

I have to include heavy equipment (backhoes, graders, loaders, etc.) as well
so I'll also have to track the services by hours rather than miles.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of
dmcafee at pacbell.net
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:45 PM
To: ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Cc: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)


I was given a task to quickly come up with a vehicle maintenance schedule
database. before I get further, I was wondering if anyone already has
something in place.

If not, this is what I have so far:

tblModels:
	ModelID PK
	Model (Camaro, Corvette)

tblAutoMfg
	AutoMfgID PK
	AutoMfg (Chevrolet, Honda)

tblMfgModels
	MfgModelID PK
	AutoMfgID FK
	ModelID FK

tblYears
	YearID PK
	ModelYear (2005, 2004, 2003...)

tblAutoYears
	AutoYearID PK
	YearID FK
	MfgModelID FK

I'm looking at schedules that can be either light duty or heavy duty
The maintenance schedules can also be either date based or mileage (or
kilometer based).

Something like Oil Changes, every 3000 miles or 3 months. But some items
have only date based services and others have only mileage based service
intervals.

I was thinking something like
tblMaintenanceTasks
MaintTaskID
MaintTask (Oil Change, Rotate Tires...)

tblIntervals
IntervalID
Interval (3, 3000, 7500...)
IntervalTypeID

tblIntervalType
IntervalType (Miles, Months)

But I was also thinking of making tblIntervals, a little less normalized,
something like:
tblIntervals
IntervalID
IntervalMiles
IntervalKilos
IntervalMonths

I have also not been told if we will be drilling down into sub model type
(i.e. Mustang GT, Mustang LX), so for now, I am assuming that I will be
relating these suggested service maintenance intervals to tblAutoYears.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
David McAfee

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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Apr  8 15:30:54 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:30:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAIi/jwHrRQEWV92CFEoSHkgEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKEHDFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

This isn't a "one vehicle specific" or "work performed" database.

It is more along the lines of your last paragraph. I work for a company that
supplies the auto industry with those types of Dbs. The trouble is, that
everything is always denormalized. The system I am now working on will be a
supplement to the current CDs, since they're data is usually 6 months into
the year before it is published. This may possibly be web based, but I am
currently doing the rapid design as an ADP to get a working demo.  I was
thinking since I have a chance to get the design right, I might as well do
that.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)


Hi Dave,

This is just me but I would combine all these tables into one.  Everything
here defines the vehicle itself.  Make a tblVehicle with appropriate
columns.  You might be able to use the VIN as a no-duplicate index value.  A
related table would contain information about each maintenance event - work
done, cost, hours, owner (maintenance requestor), mechanic, etc.

Or, you might make a table using customer information, and then the vehicle
table would be subordinate to that.  Each customer will have different
vehicles.

The shops where I take my car to get repaired seem to have fairly good
maintenance databases.  Perhaps buying one of those would be what you're
looking for.

HTH,

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
dmcafee at pacbell.net
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:45 PM
To: ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Cc: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)

I was given a task to quickly come up with a vehicle maintenance schedule
database. before I get further, I was wondering if anyone already has
something in place.

If not, this is what I have so far:

tblModels:
	ModelID PK
	Model (Camaro, Corvette)

tblAutoMfg
	AutoMfgID PK
	AutoMfg (Chevrolet, Honda)

tblMfgModels
	MfgModelID PK
	AutoMfgID FK
	ModelID FK

tblYears
	YearID PK
	ModelYear (2005, 2004, 2003...)

tblAutoYears
	AutoYearID PK
	YearID FK
	MfgModelID FK

I'm looking at schedules that can be either light duty or heavy duty
The maintenance schedules can also be either date based or mileage (or
kilometer based).

Something like Oil Changes, every 3000 miles or 3 months. But some items
have only date based services and others have only mileage based service
intervals.

I was thinking something like
tblMaintenanceTasks
MaintTaskID
MaintTask (Oil Change, Rotate Tires...)

tblIntervals
IntervalID
Interval (3, 3000, 7500...)
IntervalTypeID

tblIntervalType
IntervalType (Miles, Months)

But I was also thinking of making tblIntervals, a little less normalized,
something like:
tblIntervals
IntervalID
IntervalMiles
IntervalKilos
IntervalMonths

I have also not been told if we will be drilling down into sub model type
(i.e. Mustang GT, Mustang LX), so for now, I am assuming that I will be
relating these suggested service maintenance intervals to tblAutoYears.

Any suggestions?

TIA,
David McAfee

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From dajomigo at tpg.com.au  Fri Apr  8 15:54:22 2005
From: dajomigo at tpg.com.au (David & Joanne Gould)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:54:22 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Checking input datatype
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20050409065033.03bc4300@mail.tpg.com.au>

I am trying to check for the datatype of a user's keyboard entry. They are 
typing into a combo box that should check the first keystroke to see if it 
is a number or a letter. Once it has decided which it is it can then choose 
which query to use for the combo box. Everything is fine except that I 
can't work out how to check the datatype.

TIA

David Gould
DG Solutions




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Apr  8 16:03:39 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:03:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D379@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <003701c53c7e$732a3920$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

>Made me feel almost as giddy as I do when I get carded for cigarettes! 

Hmmm... Not sure you'll live long enough to be considered an "old" list
member.

<BIG grin>

John W. Colby
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I'd like everyone to note that I wasn't listed in the list of 'OLD' List
members! <grin>  Made me feel almost as giddy as I do when I get carded for
cigarettes! 

Congrats Virginia!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, Charlotte,
etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been awhile since I have
posted to the list & the new ones probably won't remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It took
awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to everyone on
the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia

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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Apr  8 16:09:12 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 14:09:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Checking input datatype
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20050409065033.03bc4300@mail.tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEHEFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

in the combo box OnChange event:
If LEN(me.cboMyCombo) >1 THen
	If ISNUMERIC(LEFT(me.cboMyCombo,1)) = True Then
		me.cboMyCombo.Rowsource = "qryNumberUsed"
	Else
		me.cboMyCombo.Rowsource = "qryLetterUsed"
	End if
ENd if

HTH
David McAfee
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Gould
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:54 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Checking input datatype


I am trying to check for the datatype of a user's keyboard entry. They are
typing into a combo box that should check the first keystroke to see if it
is a number or a letter. Once it has decided which it is it can then choose
which query to use for the combo box. Everything is fine except that I
can't work out how to check the datatype.

TIA

David Gould
DG Solutions


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From dajomigo at tpg.com.au  Fri Apr  8 16:39:46 2005
From: dajomigo at tpg.com.au (David & Joanne Gould)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 07:39:46 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Checking input datatype
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEHEFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
References: <6.0.0.22.2.20050409065033.03bc4300@mail.tpg.com.au>
	<KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKOEHEFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20050409073835.03bdf4d8@mail.tpg.com.au>

Thanks, David

Both for your prompt reply and your answer, it works perfectly

David

At 07:09 AM 9/04/2005, you wrote:
>in the combo box OnChange event:
>If LEN(me.cboMyCombo) >1 THen
>         If ISNUMERIC(LEFT(me.cboMyCombo,1)) = True Then
>                 me.cboMyCombo.Rowsource = "qryNumberUsed"
>         Else
>                 me.cboMyCombo.Rowsource = "qryLetterUsed"
>         End if
>ENd if
>
>HTH
>David McAfee
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David & Joanne
>Gould
>Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:54 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Checking input datatype
>
>
>I am trying to check for the datatype of a user's keyboard entry. They are
>typing into a combo box that should check the first keystroke to see if it
>is a number or a letter. Once it has decided which it is it can then choose
>which query to use for the combo box. Everything is fine except that I
>can't work out how to check the datatype.
>
>TIA
>
>David Gould
>DG Solutions
>
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr  8 18:29:11 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 18:29:11 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D383@main2.marlow.com>

I consider smoking a sacrifice.  It helps ensure the longevity of many,
many, many people around me.....

<grin>

Drew

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From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:04 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


>Made me feel almost as giddy as I do when I get carded for cigarettes! 

Hmmm... Not sure you'll live long enough to be considered an "old" list
member.

<BIG DEFANGED_grin>

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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http://folding.stanford.edu/

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Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:07 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


I'd like everyone to note that I wasn't listed in the list of 'OLD' List
members! <grin>  Made me feel almost as giddy as I do when I get carded for
cigarettes! 

Congrats Virginia!

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:57 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks


This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan, Charlotte,
etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been awhile since I have
posted to the list & the new ones probably won't remember me.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It took
awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to everyone on
the list that has helped me over the years!!

 

Virginia

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From cclenright at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  8 19:37:10 2005
From: cclenright at yahoo.com (Chris Enright)
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:37:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Was Ghosts: Embarrassment
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050409003710.27026.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com>

Oh Dear!

Thanks Paul!

I have to go public in case there are people pondering this problem. 

Imported the form from somewhere else. Never thought of select all,
which brought up another couple of hidden fields in the background.

How embarrassing! 

Very red faced,

Chris




		
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr  8 19:59:32 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:59:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2k: Was Ghosts: Embarrassment
In-Reply-To: <20050409003710.27026.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com>
References: 6667
Message-ID: <4257B594.22405.ABF86AF@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 8 Apr 2005 at 17:37, Chris Enright wrote:

> Oh Dear!
> 
> Thanks Paul!
> 
> I have to go public in case there are people pondering this problem. 
> 
> Imported the form from somewhere else. Never thought of select all,
> which brought up another couple of hidden fields in the background.
> 
> How embarrassing! 
> 
> Very red faced,
> 

Did you get my email:

It's quite simple.  Look at frmEnterPIN in design view.
In addition to the visible label, button and PIN textbox, frmEnterPIN has 
two text boxes (Text9 and Text11) and a Rectangle (Box0).  You are using 
the rectangle to set the background of the form and the two text boxes are 
normally hidden behind it.

These text boxes have their Visible property set to True and their TabStop 
property set to True. When you use the Tab key, you cycle through the 
controls setting the Focus to each one in turn. When the focus is set to 
Text9 or Text11, they are displayed in fromt of the Rectangle.

Solution: 

1. Get rid of the Rectangle and just set the background colour of the 
Detail section of the form to the colour you want.
2. Set the Visible property of the two textboxes to False.

 -- 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Apr  9 10:26:02 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 08:26:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] The DatabaseAdvisors web site
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43013BD206@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <0IEO006E9QVD9Y@l-daemon>

Hi All:

The new Databaseadvisors web site is now up and running. The site is mostly
written in CSS, thanks to Byran and has a fresh look and feel. There is a
new set of articles and a new Gazette article. Check it out and see what you
think of our new site. www.databaseadvisors.com 

If there are any questions comments or concern please address them to me the
webmaster and site janitor.

There is more to come but it will have to wait.

Thank all the people that contributed time and articles, it could not have
been completed without them.

Thanks for your patience.
Jim Lawrence 



From chise at charter.net  Sat Apr  9 11:41:46 2005
From: chise at charter.net (Charles Hise)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:41:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
Message-ID: <3spcf3$68mdj3@mxip04a.cluster1.charter.net>

Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who did
not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who did
attend;

 

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining ON
tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR
(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

 

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who attended
other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

 

Charles Hise

 

 



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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Apr  9 11:42:45 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:42:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
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References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<015201c538bf$3cf22ba0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42580605.80600@rogers.com>

First of all, I would question the usefulness of placing the objects in 
numerous tables. The first problem with this design is the fact that you 
have to add new tables relatively frequently. I would suggest -- at 
least for purposes of kicking it around -- another structure in which 
two tables -- ObjectTypes and Objects -- are used. Every time you need a 
new object type, you add a row to that table. This new object may 
require new columns that are not yet present in Objects. So you add 
them. Then you create a view/query for each object type that exposes 
only those rows from Objects that are relevant to said object type. For 
example, automobiles have a VIN#, CDs don't, and so on. But on the other 
hand, virtually all the objects have things in common, such as 
Description, purchase date, purchase price and so on, so all queries 
will contain these columns. A good way to do that is to create one query 
that includes all the common columns, and additional queries (one per 
object type) that add the columns unique to that type.

One significant advantage to this design is the ease with which you can 
produce a report that includes all objects of all object types -- just 
report the common columns.

Once you have the queries for each object type, you could generate 
autoForms, set their default to DataSheet, then create a master form 
with a tab control, and plonk each DS form onto its own tab. The master 
form could be based on the ObjectTypes table, making the links to the 
Objects table a no-brainer.

Assuming that you have a list of the properties for each object type, 
you could do this whole app in a morning.

Arthur

Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

> Steve:
>
> Not really responsive but I have to question why he wants to do this 
> at all? Unless it's just a busman's holiday, why not just create a 
> list of his albums, a list of his books, a list of his cassettes in a 
> word doc print it out and be done.  Then he'd know everything he needs 
> by looking at the lists, no?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Erbach" <erbachs at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 5:26 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
>
>
>> Dear Group,
>>
>> A friend who's pretty sharp on computers (PHP development and a fair
>> amount of VB.NET) asked me to help him figure out a way to handle his
>> home inventory. He has LPs, Books, video cassettes, etc., half a dozen
>> different categories in all of things he wants to record in tables. So
>> far he's made an individual collection table for each type of item:
>> Books, LPs, Videos, etc.
>>
>> His question was how to make a master table that had common
>> information in it -- purchase date, purchase price, location in house,
>> and category. He was also trying to figure out a way to have a big
>> master form, perhaps with a tab object, and subforms for all the
>> tables containing his collections.
>>
>> I admit that I was a bit stumped. It's easy enough to determine that
>> the master table should have, say, an AutoNumber key field for each
>> item in his entire home inventory and that the individual item tables
>> would link to the master through a foreign key or simply with a Long
>> Integer field containing the Master key. But there would be a
>> one-to-one link between the master and the collection tables.
>>
>> But what he'd like to do is see multiple rows for each of his
>> collection items at the same time. This implies that the subforms
>> would NOT be linked to the master. If they WERE linked to the master,
>> then only ONE item from ONE collection table would show up.
>>
>> Have you lot ever tried something like this? His notion is that if the
>> Master table contains the location for each item then he can easily
>> query the master to find all the items in, say, the upstairs closet.
>> But then creating a report or a query might be a struggle since he
>> could conceivably have items from six different collections in that
>> closet...or only four of the collections.
>>
>> I think you get the drift. Each collection has enough unique
>> information that keeping the items in separate tables makes sense, but
>> pulling all the information together to make an inventory valuation
>> might be a chore. Any ideas?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Steve Erbach
>> Scientific Marketing
>> Neenah, WI
>> www.swerbach.com
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr  9 11:49:20 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:49:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
In-Reply-To: <3spcf3$68mdj3@mxip04a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <20050409164920.PBPZ4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

What does the id value 10 signify? Also, what do the status values of 1 and
2 represent?

Susan H. 

Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who did
not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who did
attend;

 

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining ON
tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR
(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

 

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who attended
other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

 

Charles Hise

 

 



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From chise at charter.net  Sat Apr  9 11:51:40 2005
From: chise at charter.net (Charles Hise)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:51:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
In-Reply-To: <20050409164920.PBPZ4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <3rr89m$t5a19s@mxip15a.cluster1.charter.net>

Susan
10 is the courseID and status 1 active 2 on leave 3 terminated 
Charles Hise


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Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service

What does the id value 10 signify? Also, what do the status values of 1 and
2 represent?

Susan H. 

Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who did
not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who did
attend;

 

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining ON
tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR
(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

 

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who attended
other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

 

Charles Hise

 

 



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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr  9 11:56:45 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:56:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
In-Reply-To: <3rr89m$t5a19s@mxip15a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <20050409165645.PEXB4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

So, there is no value for "didn't attend?" Do you leave the field Null
(blank)? Or does 2 "on leave" mean "didn't attend"?

Susan H. 

Susan
10 is the courseID and status 1 active 2 on leave 3 terminated Charles Hise


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service

What does the id value 10 signify? Also, what do the status values of 1 and
2 represent?

Susan H. 

Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who did
not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who did
attend;

 

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining ON
tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR
(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

 

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who attended
other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

 

Charles Hise

 

 



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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Apr  9 11:58:38 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:58:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
In-Reply-To: <3rr89m$t5a19s@mxip15a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <20050409165838.PFSW4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Have you tried

WHERE tblCoursesTaught.ID=10 AND tblEmployee.status=2)

I don't understand why you're including the 1 value with an Or operator --
active seems to suggest that they attended?

Susan H. 

Susan
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service

What does the id value 10 signify? Also, what do the status values of 1 and
2 represent?

Susan H. 

Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who did
not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who did
attend;

 

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining ON
tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR
(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

 

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who attended
other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

 

Charles Hise

 

 



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From erbachs at gmail.com  Sat Apr  9 12:00:58 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:00:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <42580605.80600@rogers.com>
References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<015201c538bf$3cf22ba0$6401a8c0@HAL9004> <42580605.80600@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050409100016618897@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you, Arthur. I thought, at first, about suggesting the addition
of columns to a master table as you did. It seemed to be one of those
relational thingummies that we're taught to avoid. Granted, your
solution is much the simplest -- leaving out the flower children on
this list.

Steve Erbach

On Apr 9, 2005 11:42 AM, Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:
> First of all, I would question the usefulness of placing the objects in
> numerous tables. The first problem with this design is the fact that you
> have to add new tables relatively frequently. I would suggest -- at
> least for purposes of kicking it around -- another structure in which
> two tables -- ObjectTypes and Objects -- are used. Every time you need a
> new object type, you add a row to that table. This new object may
> require new columns that are not yet present in Objects. So you add
> them. Then you create a view/query for each object type that exposes
> only those rows from Objects that are relevant to said object type. For
> example, automobiles have a VIN#, CDs don't, and so on. But on the other
> hand, virtually all the objects have things in common, such as
> Description, purchase date, purchase price and so on, so all queries
> will contain these columns. A good way to do that is to create one query
> that includes all the common columns, and additional queries (one per
> object type) that add the columns unique to that type.
> 
> One significant advantage to this design is the ease with which you can
> produce a report that includes all objects of all object types -- just
> report the common columns.
> 
> Once you have the queries for each object type, you could generate
> autoForms, set their default to DataSheet, then create a master form
> with a tab control, and plonk each DS form onto its own tab. The master
> form could be based on the ObjectTypes table, making the links to the
> Objects table a no-brainer.
> 
> Assuming that you have a list of the properties for each object type,
> you could do this whole app in a morning.
> 
> Arthur


From chise at charter.net  Sat Apr  9 12:11:34 2005
From: chise at charter.net (Charles Hise)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 12:11:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
In-Reply-To: <20050409165838.PFSW4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <3spdi8$683l4m@mxip14a.cluster1.charter.net>

Sorry, for the confusing statement, I have the following tables:
Tbl 1			Tbl 2				Tbl 3
tblEmployee	tblEmployeeTraining	tblCoursesTaught
empId		empId				date
Name,Etc.	id				coursetitle
Status	tblCoursesTaught_ID	id

Status filters for Current and onLeave employees only
Hope this helps.

Charles Hise


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service

Have you tried

WHERE tblCoursesTaught.ID=10 AND tblEmployee.status=2)

I don't understand why you're including the 1 value with an Or operator --
active seems to suggest that they attended?

Susan H. 

Susan
10 is the courseID and status 1 active 2 on leave 3 terminated Charles Hise


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Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:49 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service

What does the id value 10 signify? Also, what do the status values of 1 and
2 represent?

Susan H. 

Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who did
not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who did
attend;

 

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining ON
tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR
(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

 

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who attended
other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

 

Charles Hise

 

 



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr  9 12:33:55 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:33:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Word closes before it shows the user the document
References: <OFC9BD66EA.E6C1361D-ONCA256FDC.00209181@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <42581203.6060406@shaw.ca>

Just maybe this is it, part way through your code you suddenly

    Set objWord = Nothing 


                objWord.Activate    ' Activates Word
                objWord.Visible = True    ' Show Word to the user.
                objWord.WindowState = wdWindowStateMaximize
                Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.



connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Now trying to fix a 2nd database which is not working, written in Access97.
>Problem is there is a Form letter function (code below) when I call this
>function it opens word but no document appears in the window. The popup to
>ask if it printed OK appears but the document is not visible to the user
>and no printing occurs. If I comment out the line
>'.Documents(strMainDocument).Close SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges I get a
>program monitor error but the document is visible.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Connie Kamrowski
>
>Analyst/Programmer
>Information Technology
>NSW Department of Primary Industries
>Orange
>
>
>Public Sub Export_Word()
>Dim rsA0001 As Recordset
>
>Dim objWord As Word.Application
>Dim strMainDocument As String
>
>Dim dbExportWord As Database
>Dim rsExportWord As Recordset
>Dim booPrintBackground As Boolean
>
>
>gfLetterPrintedOK = False 'Value will be set to true if the user verifies
>that the letter printed
>
>' Resume to the next line following the error.
>On Error Resume Next
>
>' Attempt to reference Word which is already running.
>Set objWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")
>If Err = 429 Then
>    Set objWord = New Word.Application
>    Err = 0
>End If
>
>
>' If true, Word is not running.
>If objWord Is Nothing Then
>        ' Create a new instance of the Word application.
>        Set objWord = New Word.Application
>        ' If true, MS Word is not installed.
>        If objWord Is Nothing Then
>                MsgBox "MS Word is not installed on your computer"
>                GoTo ExitRoutine
>        End If 'objWord Is Nothing
>End If 'objWord Is Nothing
>
>'Check to Ensure the temporary RTF file has been deleted, if not, Delete it
>    gstrWordDirectory = Dir$(strTempRTFFile, vbNormal)
>        If gstrWordDirectory <> "" Then
>                On Error GoTo Failure 'Displays 'File Access Error (#71) if
>a form letter is already open
>                    Kill strTempRTFFile
>                On Error Resume Next
>        End If 'gstrWordDirectory <> ""
>
>    If gstrAccessWordQuery = "" Then
>                    'Print Blank Form
>                        objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate)
>                Else
>                    DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputQuery, gstrAccessWordQuery, _
>                        acFormatRTF, strTempRTFFile, False
>                    objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate) 'Template document
>'*.dot'
>                    strMainDocument = objWord.ActiveDocument.Name 'Sets the
>name of the 'Main Document' (template document)
>                    'so that it can be closed later
>
>                    With objWord.ActiveDocument.MailMerge
>                        .SuppressBlankLines = True
>                        .ViewMailMergeFieldCodes = False
>                        .Destination = wdSendToNewDocument
>                        .Execute
>                    End With
>
>                    With objWord 'Close Main Document
>                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Activate
>                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Close
>SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges
>                           ' Store background printing option.
>
>
>
>                     End With
>
>                objWord.Activate    ' Activates Word
>                objWord.Visible = True    ' Show Word to the user.
>                objWord.WindowState = wdWindowStateMaximize
>                Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.
>
>            On Error GoTo Failure
>
>                If MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?", vbYesNo,
>"Form Letters") = vbYes Then
>
>                        gfLetterPrintedOK = True
>                        Set dbExportWord = CurrentDb()
>                        Set rsExportWord =
>dbExportWord.OpenRecordset("tblLettersSent", dbOpenDynaset, dbFailOnError)
>
>                        With rsExportWord
>                            .AddNew
>                                !LTRLPBNumber = gstrRLPBNumber
>                                !LTPropertyID = glngMainPropertyID
>                                !LTFormLetterID = gstrFormLetterID
>                                !LTComment = gstrFormLetterComment
>                                !LTDatePrinted = Date
>                                !LTTimePrinted = Time
>                            .Update
>                        End With
>
>                        Select Case getgstrFormLetterID()
>                            Case "A0001"
>                                dbExportWord.Execute "A000104",
>dbFailOnError
>
>                        End Select
>                End If 'MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?"...
>      End If 'gstrAccessWordQuery = ""
>
>
>ExitRoutine:
>    On Error Resume Next
>        rsExportWord.Close
>        Set rsExportWord = Nothing
>        dbExportWord.Close
>        Set dbExportWord = Nothing
>        rsA0001.Close
>        Set rsA0001 = Nothing
>        Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.
>    Exit Sub
>
>Failure:
>        Call ErrorHandler(strProcedureName:="Export_Word",
>lngErrorNumber:=Err.Number, _
>            strErrorDescription:=Err.Description, _
>            strErrorSource:=Err.Source)
>        Resume ExitRoutine
>
> End Sub
>
>
>
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From pjewett at bayplace.com  Sat Apr  9 12:45:16 2005
From: pjewett at bayplace.com (Phil Jewett)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 10:45:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend an in-service
Message-ID: <F24E31ECF2C99349AACF5C51856D5F888307@pluto2.home.bayplace.com>

This is solved with a subquery to exclude those that DID attend course
10:
 
SELECT tblEmployee.empID from tblEmployee
 
WHERE (tblEmployee.status = 1 or tblEmployee.status = 2)
 
AND tblEmployeeID NOT IN
 
(SELECT tblEmployee.empID
FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining
ON tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID
WHERE tblCoursesTaught.ID = 10) ;
 
Almost always when you are working on a query that includes the dreaded
words 'and did not...' then you need a subquery to solve it.
 
Phil Jewett
Phil Jewett Consulting
pjewett at bayplace.com
(619 318-4899
 
Original message:
 
Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who
did not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who
did attend;

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining
ON tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR

(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who
attended other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

Charles Hise

 


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr  9 12:56:21 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:56:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] AXP fails to install ..continued
References: <ff.10f4131b.2f867017@aol.com>
Message-ID: <42581745.10108@shaw.ca>

I just checked my system, I have mine, User set to Canadian English 
through control Panel
You might have users with different language defaults, some may only be 
changeable through an admin install
Without an admin install may not allow this codepage changing.
The system default depends on the language install of Windows. I 
installled US version of Windows.
Someone may have installed US version of windows then setup for German 
windows with multilanguage pack.
or have simply installed the German Versions of windows.
Some variation of this maybe the problem. I think the osplcid runtime 
should match the OS default lcid.
I am just clutching at straws..

System default LCID:    1033 (0x00000409)
System default LANGID:  1033 (0x0409) English (United States)
System default UI Lang: 1033 (0x0409) English (United States)
User default LCID:      4105 (0x00001009)
User default LANGID:    4105 (0x1009) English (Canadian)
User default UI Lang:   1033 (0x0409) English (United States)

You can get this info from the registry, I just happened to have a 
recent debug program from Google labs
that dumps this info to the clipboard.

JOHNWARDBELL at aol.com wrote:

> 
>Hi  Marty, 
>You were right about  setup.lst having the language set to 1033 also in the 
>same file under [runtime]  the OSPLCID (what ever that is) was set to 1033.  I 
>changed the language setting to 2057  without success then the OSPLCID=2057 
>again without success. I then ran the  Runtime SP3 again. No joy. This was now 
>getting tedious. As desperate attempt to  get the thing working I manually 
>installed Access XP runtime on the user?s PC  and copied the db front end as well 
>and it works as it should.   
>Thank you once more  for your input. 
>john  bell
>  
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr  9 13:29:34 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:29:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Insert Picture
References: <1af6886405040810264859e924@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42581F0E.2080500@shaw.ca>

Have a look at Candace Tripps methods to call API file dialogs
for images or other files via filters for 97 and 2000
download Picture database and windows common dialogs
Similar to code on Dev Ashish's site http://www.mvps.org/access

http://www.candace-tripp.com/pages/access_downloads.aspx

Barry Stear wrote:

>I copied the EVENT for inserting an picture from the Sample Database
>that comes with Access 2003 (NorthWind Sample Database) . However when
>I try to click on the button to insert an picture it errors out in the
>code at Sub getFileName(). It says that its not defined. It highlights
>in blue msoFileDialogFilePicker and has an Yellow Arrow next to Sub
>getFileName(). Here is the procedure.
>
>Sub getFileName()
>    ' Displays the Office File Open dialog to choose a file name
>    ' for the current employee record.  If the user selects a file
>    ' display it in the image control.
>    Dim fileName As String
>    Dim result As Integer
>    With Application.FileDialog(msoFileDialogFilePicker)
>        .Title = "Select Employee Picture"
>        .Filters.Add "All Files", "*.*"
>        .Filters.Add "JPEGs", "*.jpg"
>        .Filters.Add "Bitmaps", "*.bmp"
>        .FilterIndex = 3
>        .AllowMultiSelect = False
>        .InitialFileName = CurrentProject.path
>        result = .Show
>        If (result <> 0) Then
>            fileName = Trim(.SelectedItems.Item(1))
>            Me![ImagePath].Visible = True
>            Me![ImagePath].SetFocus
>            Me![ImagePath].Text = fileName
>            Me![FirstName].SetFocus
>            Me![ImagePath].Visible = False
>        End If
>    End With
>End Sub
>
>
>Anyone help me with this code or perhaps something else I can use. I
>want to be able to put an picture in my Inventory list. I know I can
>embed it but its nice to be able to do it from within an form with an
>button.
>
>Barry
>  
>

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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Apr  9 14:34:26 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 15:34:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Home inventory problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f3050409100016618897@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39cb22f3050403172618594c2b@mail.gmail.com>	<015201c538bf$3cf22ba0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
	<42580605.80600@rogers.com>
	<39cb22f3050409100016618897@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42582E42.2020802@rogers.com>

At my ripe old age, especially given that this is a home-app, quick is 
better than theory LOL.

A.

Steve Erbach wrote:

>Thank you, Arthur. I thought, at first, about suggesting the addition
>of columns to a master table as you did. It seemed to be one of those
>relational thingummies that we're taught to avoid. Granted, your
>solution is much the simplest -- leaving out the flower children on
>this list.
>
>Steve Erbach
>
>  
>
>


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From handyman at actcom.co.il  Sat Apr  9 15:38:39 2005
From: handyman at actcom.co.il (handyman at actcom.co.il)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 22:38:39 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKEEHAFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050409223737.02a8be00@pop5.actcom.net.il>

you can look at http://www.arcpress.com/   for ideas......

gm

At 11:44 AM, 4/8/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>I was given a task to quickly come up with a vehicle maintenance schedule
>database. before I get further, I was wondering if anyone already has
>something in place.
>
>If not, this is what I have so far:
>
>tblModels:
>         ModelID PK
>         Model (Camaro, Corvette)
>
>tblAutoMfg
>         AutoMfgID PK
>         AutoMfg (Chevrolet, Honda)
>
>tblMfgModels
>         MfgModelID PK
>         AutoMfgID FK
>         ModelID FK
>
>tblYears
>         YearID PK
>         ModelYear (2005, 2004, 2003...)
>
>tblAutoYears
>         AutoYearID PK
>         YearID FK
>         MfgModelID FK
>
>I'm looking at schedules that can be either light duty or heavy duty
>The maintenance schedules can also be either date based or mileage (or
>kilometer based).
>
>Something like Oil Changes, every 3000 miles or 3 months. But some items
>have only date based services and others have only mileage based service
>intervals.
>
>I was thinking something like
>tblMaintenanceTasks
>MaintTaskID
>MaintTask (Oil Change, Rotate Tires...)
>
>tblIntervals
>IntervalID
>Interval (3, 3000, 7500...)
>IntervalTypeID
>
>tblIntervalType
>IntervalType (Miles, Months)
>
>But I was also thinking of making tblIntervals, a little less normalized,
>something like:
>tblIntervals
>IntervalID
>IntervalMiles
>IntervalKilos
>IntervalMonths
>
>I have also not been told if we will be drilling down into sub model type
>(i.e. Mustang GT, Mustang LX), so for now, I am assuming that I will be
>relating these suggested service maintenance intervals to tblAutoYears.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>TIA,
>David McAfee
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sat Apr  9 14:43:24 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 12:43:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAIi/jwHrRQEWV92CFEoSHkgEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <4258305C.5040608@shaw.ca>

Here is a site with about 500 data models, with some you can get access 
mdb structures emailed.
You may have to mix and match from the examples

Barry Williams  'Kick-Start' Data Models
http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/index.htm

The VIN contains six sections:  over 17 digits
with a lot of info you might want to purchase a dll that breaks this 
down if useful
plus info changes yearly.
 there is a check digit included to stop transposition errors.

I would be suprised if there isn't a pay webservice to decode VIN  
accessible by soap.

The World Manufacturer Identification, or WMI, which identifies the 
country and company that assembled the vehicle.
In the United States, the WMI is assigned by the Society for Automotive 
Engineering (SAE).
The model year of the vehicle, using a single-letter code which is 
standardized for all manufacturers.
The model description, in a format chosen by the manufacturer.
The manufacturing plant, in a format chosen by the manufacturer.
The serial number of the vehicle, in a format chosen by the manufacturer.
A check digit used to validate the VIN's validity.
The check digit is calculated using an algorithm which is standardized 
for all manufacturers.

For example, the breakdown sheet for a 1996 General Motors vehicle 
offers several possibilities for body styles and engines.

A 2-door hatchback is a "2" in position 6
A 5.7 liter V-8 engine is a "5" in position 8

http://www.tedcrane.com/DISCOtech/VIN_Data.htp
http://www.autoinsurancetips.com/vin.htm
http://www.analogx.com/contents/vinview.htm
Maybe check Chilton manuals for a breakdown

VIN 1FMZU34E6XUC84xxx

1FM=  multi-purpose vehicle built by Ford Motor Company USA
Z=    relates to GVW information.  I think Z equals 5000-6000 lbs.
U34=  4-door Explorer 4x4
E=    4.0L SOHC six-cylinder engine
6=    check digit
X=    model year 1999
U=    built in Louisville, Kentucky
C84xxx= vehicle build sequence



Dan Waters wrote:

>Hi Dave,
>
>This is just me but I would combine all these tables into one.  Everything
>here defines the vehicle itself.  Make a tblVehicle with appropriate
>columns.  You might be able to use the VIN as a no-duplicate index value.  A
>related table would contain information about each maintenance event - work
>done, cost, hours, owner (maintenance requestor), mechanic, etc.
>
>Or, you might make a table using customer information, and then the vehicle
>table would be subordinate to that.  Each customer will have different
>vehicles.
>
>The shops where I take my car to get repaired seem to have fairly good
>maintenance databases.  Perhaps buying one of those would be what 
>


>you're
>looking for.
>
>HTH,
>
>Dan Waters
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>dmcafee at pacbell.net
>Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:45 PM
>To: ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
>Cc: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
>
>I was given a task to quickly come up with a vehicle maintenance schedule
>database. before I get further, I was wondering if anyone already has
>something in place.
>
>If not, this is what I have so far:
>
>tblModels:
>	ModelID PK
>	Model (Camaro, Corvette)
>
>tblAutoMfg
>	AutoMfgID PK
>	AutoMfg (Chevrolet, Honda)
>
>tblMfgModels
>	MfgModelID PK
>	AutoMfgID FK
>	ModelID FK
>
>tblYears
>	YearID PK
>	ModelYear (2005, 2004, 2003...)
>
>tblAutoYears
>	AutoYearID PK
>	YearID FK
>	MfgModelID FK
>
>I'm looking at schedules that can be either light duty or heavy duty
>The maintenance schedules can also be either date based or mileage (or
>kilometer based).
>
>Something like Oil Changes, every 3000 miles or 3 months. But some items
>have only date based services and others have only mileage based service
>intervals.
>
>I was thinking something like
>tblMaintenanceTasks
>MaintTaskID
>MaintTask (Oil Change, Rotate Tires...)
>
>tblIntervals
>IntervalID
>Interval (3, 3000, 7500...)
>IntervalTypeID
>
>tblIntervalType
>IntervalType (Miles, Months)
>
>But I was also thinking of making tblIntervals, a little less normalized,
>something like:
>tblIntervals
>IntervalID
>IntervalMiles
>IntervalKilos
>IntervalMonths
>
>I have also not been told if we will be drilling down into sub model type
>(i.e. Mustang GT, Mustang LX), so for now, I am assuming that I will be
>relating these suggested service maintenance intervals to tblAutoYears.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>TIA,
>David McAfee
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Sat Apr  9 15:07:18 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 13:07:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050409223737.02a8be00@pop5.actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKCEALCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net




From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Sat Apr  9 15:09:31 2005
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:09:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Vehicle maintenance database (cross posted)
In-Reply-To: <4258305C.5040608@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <4257FE3B.6592.1E1A638@localhost>

On 9 Apr 2005 at 12:43, MartyConnelly wrote:

> Here is a site with about 500 data models, with some you can get
> access mdb structures emailed. You may have to mix and match from the
> examples
> 
> Barry Williams  'Kick-Start' Data Models
> http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/index.htm

Thanks Marty!! I was looking for this site to recommend but couldn't 
find it.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Welcome to Hell. Here's your copy of Windows.




From artful at rogers.com  Sat Apr  9 15:33:34 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 16:33:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
In-Reply-To: <3spdi8$683l4m@mxip14a.cluster1.charter.net>
References: <3spdi8$683l4m@mxip14a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <42583C1E.7080608@rogers.com>

I may be missing something, but so far I don't see the issue here. 
tblCourses, I assume, contains the range of courses available. 
tblEmployee contains the employees. tblEmployeeTraining contains a list 
of atttendees to various courses. Excellent design.

I changed the table names slightly to fit into my example database, but 
you should be able to transpose them quickly. For the employees who have 
atteneded any given course:

SELECT     LastName
FROM         dbo.Employees
WHERE     (EmployeeID NOT IN
                          (SELECT     EmployeeID
                            FROM          CoursesAttended
                            WHERE      CoursesTaughtID = 1))

This assumes, of course, that you know the CoursesTaughtID. In the above 
I tested it with CoursesTaughtID = 1. Substitute the courseID of your 
choice.

Arthur


Charles Hise wrote:

>Sorry, for the confusing statement, I have the following tables:
>Tbl 1			Tbl 2				Tbl 3
>tblEmployee	tblEmployeeTraining	tblCoursesTaught
>empId		empId				date
>Name,Etc.	id				coursetitle
>Status	tblCoursesTaught_ID	id
>
>Status filters for Current and onLeave employees only
>Hope this helps.
>
>Charles Hise
>
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
>Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:59 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
>
>Have you tried
>
>WHERE tblCoursesTaught.ID=10 AND tblEmployee.status=2)
>
>I don't understand why you're including the 1 value with an Or operator --
>active seems to suggest that they attended?
>
>Susan H. 
>
>Susan
>10 is the courseID and status 1 active 2 on leave 3 terminated Charles Hise
>
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>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
>Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:49 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend and in-service
>
>What does the id value 10 signify? Also, what do the status values of 1 and
>2 represent?
>
>Susan H. 
>
>Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who did
>not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who did
>attend;
>
> 
>
>SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID
>
>FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining ON
>tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
>tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID
>
>WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR
>(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));
>
> 
>
>If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who attended
>other in-services.
>
>I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.
>
>I would appreciate any help
>
> 
>
>Charles Hise
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sat Apr  9 17:38:24 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 15:38:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKCEALCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <200504092238.j39McEi07169@databaseadvisors.com>

Hi Bob,

Check with Orange County Access Users group.

They had a demo a few months ago that may be able to do what you want.

Contact me off list if you need more info.

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
28g
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 1:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word

Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Apr  9 18:45:53 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 00:45:53 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] The DatabaseAdvisors web site
In-Reply-To: <0IEO006E9QVD9Y@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000001c53d5e$4460ec70$0a428552@minster33c3r25>

Great job Jim, Bryan and all other contributors. Many thanks.

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jim Lawrence
> Sent: 09 April 2005 16:26
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] The DatabaseAdvisors web site
> 
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> The new Databaseadvisors web site is now up and running. The 
> site is mostly written in CSS, thanks to Byran and has a 
> fresh look and feel. There is a new set of articles and a new 
> Gazette article. Check it out and see what you think of our 
> new site. www.databaseadvisors.com 
> 
> If there are any questions comments or concern please address 
> them to me the webmaster and site janitor.
> 
> There is more to come but it will have to wait.
> 
> Thank all the people that contributed time and articles, it 
> could not have been completed without them.
> 
> Thanks for your patience.
> Jim Lawrence 
> 
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> 
> 



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Apr  9 19:38:23 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 19:38:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] The DatabaseAdvisors web site
In-Reply-To: <10209131.1113060656733.JavaMail.root@sniper17>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA2BDmbO4TRE64zrFTy/y2SQEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Aaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!  I can reeeeaaaad it!

My laptop has a 1600 X 1200 screen, and I've been squinting.  

Very Nice!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 10:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] The DatabaseAdvisors web site

Hi All:

The new Databaseadvisors web site is now up and running. The site is mostly
written in CSS, thanks to Byran and has a fresh look and feel. There is a
new set of articles and a new Gazette article. Check it out and see what you
think of our new site. www.databaseadvisors.com 

If there are any questions comments or concern please address them to me the
webmaster and site janitor.

There is more to come but it will have to wait.

Thank all the people that contributed time and articles, it could not have
been completed without them.

Thanks for your patience.
Jim Lawrence 

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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sat Apr  9 21:29:36 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:29:36 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Setting a field in a report 
Message-ID: <OF8C4D3F18.6EEF86CA-ONCA256FDF.000CFA22@agric.nsw.gov.au>


I have a field in a report which states the End date of the report.

I need to change the end date to be the end date of the period.


So I have a field called EndDate which contains the date for example
30/06/2005
I need to display 30/04/and the year from the above date

So I figured I would just do a

Dim MyEndDate as Date
Dim End ReportDate as Date

MyEndDate = Year(Me!EndDate)
EndReportDate = DateSerial(MyEndDate, 04,30)

And then just use EndReportDate for the field ....

but when I try to use it it keeps telling me it can't find the field
EndDate referred to in my expression.
Where am I going wrong?



Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange





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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Apr  9 23:19:19 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:19:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Setting a field in a report 
In-Reply-To: <OF8C4D3F18.6EEF86CA-ONCA256FDF.000CFA22@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <425935E7.4709.109CCA6A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Apr 2005 at 12:29, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.go wrote:

> 
> but when I try to use it it keeps telling me it can't find the field
> EndDate referred to in my expression.
> Where am I going wrong?
> 

It's looking for a control called EndDate.

Put a hidden text box somewhere in the detail section.
Call it EndDate and make its source   [EndDate]



-- 
Stuart




From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sat Apr  9 23:34:01 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:34:01 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Setting a field in a report 
Message-ID: <OFFF811E58.878B3D99-ONCA256FDF.0018E905@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Ok I have done that and the field populates using the EndDate value . But
the code crashes with a "you have entered a property which has no value"
message. It does have a value because it is displaying it on the form

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange

On 10 Apr 2005 at 12:29, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.go wrote:

>
> but when I try to use it it keeps telling me it can't find the field
> EndDate referred to in my expression.
> Where am I going wrong?
>

It's looking for a control called EndDate.

Put a hidden text box somewhere in the detail section.
Call it EndDate and make its source   [EndDate]



--
Stuart



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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sat Apr  9 23:39:26 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:39:26 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Setting a field in a report
Message-ID: <OF2001B054.863C01E5-ONCA256FDF.00198749@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Or I could just use Me!EndDate.Value

Sorry

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange


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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 10 00:17:01 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 22:17:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873968@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <015a01c53d8c$86b7dec0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Seems to me you were answering MY questions when I first found this list 
about 1996 or so when it was still hosted by Memphis Technologies.

Day late and a dollar short -

Rocky

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:57 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Finally Made It - Thanks
>
>
> This is mostly for you "old" AccessD guys out there (John, Susan,
> Charlotte, etc). I have been on the list for years but it has been
> awhile since I have posted to the list & the new ones probably won't
> remember me.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know I finally made it to IT. It
> took awhile & a lot of hard work, but I made it & love it. Thanks to
> everyone on the list that has helped me over the years!!
>
>
>
> Virginia
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 10 01:01:11 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:01:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Setting a field in a report 
In-Reply-To: <OFFF811E58.878B3D99-ONCA256FDF.0018E905@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <42594DC7.10805.10FA0ED2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Apr 2005 at 14:34, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.go wrote:

> 
> Ok I have done that and the field populates using the EndDate value . But
> the code crashes with a "you have entered a property which has no value"
> message. It does have a value because it is displaying it on the form
> 

Just looked at your original again:

> Dim MyEndDate as Date
> Dim End ReportDate as Date
> 
> MyEndDate = Year(Me!EndDate)
> EndReportDate = DateSerial(MyEndDate, 04,30)
> 

You need to Dim MyEndDate as Long, not as Date. (Year() returns a number, 
not a date)

-- 
Stuart




From lists at theopg.com  Sun Apr 10 08:40:10 2005
From: lists at theopg.com (MarkH)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 14:40:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Word closes before it shows the user the document
In-Reply-To: <42581203.6060406@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <000301c53dd2$d2247bc0$b20b6bd5@netboxxp>

Try not releasing the object maybe

mark

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: 09 April 2005 18:34
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Word closes before it shows the user the document


Just maybe this is it, part way through your code you suddenly

    Set objWord = Nothing 


                objWord.Activate    ' Activates Word
                objWord.Visible = True    ' Show Word to the user.
                objWord.WindowState = wdWindowStateMaximize
                Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.



connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Now trying to fix a 2nd database which is not working, written in 
>Access97. Problem is there is a Form letter function (code below) when 
>I call this function it opens word but no document appears in the 
>window. The popup to ask if it printed OK appears but the document is 
>not visible to the user and no printing occurs. If I comment out the 
>line '.Documents(strMainDocument).Close SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges

>I get a program monitor error but the document is visible.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Connie Kamrowski
>
>Analyst/Programmer
>Information Technology
>NSW Department of Primary Industries
>Orange
>
>
>Public Sub Export_Word()
>Dim rsA0001 As Recordset
>
>Dim objWord As Word.Application
>Dim strMainDocument As String
>
>Dim dbExportWord As Database
>Dim rsExportWord As Recordset
>Dim booPrintBackground As Boolean
>
>
>gfLetterPrintedOK = False 'Value will be set to true if the user 
>verifies that the letter printed
>
>' Resume to the next line following the error.
>On Error Resume Next
>
>' Attempt to reference Word which is already running.
>Set objWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")
>If Err = 429 Then
>    Set objWord = New Word.Application
>    Err = 0
>End If
>
>
>' If true, Word is not running.
>If objWord Is Nothing Then
>        ' Create a new instance of the Word application.
>        Set objWord = New Word.Application
>        ' If true, MS Word is not installed.
>        If objWord Is Nothing Then
>                MsgBox "MS Word is not installed on your computer"
>                GoTo ExitRoutine
>        End If 'objWord Is Nothing
>End If 'objWord Is Nothing
>
>'Check to Ensure the temporary RTF file has been deleted, if not,
Delete it
>    gstrWordDirectory = Dir$(strTempRTFFile, vbNormal)
>        If gstrWordDirectory <> "" Then
>                On Error GoTo Failure 'Displays 'File Access Error 
>(#71) if a form letter is already open
>                    Kill strTempRTFFile
>                On Error Resume Next
>        End If 'gstrWordDirectory <> ""
>
>    If gstrAccessWordQuery = "" Then
>                    'Print Blank Form
>                        objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate)
>                Else
>                    DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputQuery, gstrAccessWordQuery,
_
>                        acFormatRTF, strTempRTFFile, False
>                    objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate) 'Template 
>document '*.dot'
>                    strMainDocument = objWord.ActiveDocument.Name 'Sets

>the name of the 'Main Document' (template document)
>                    'so that it can be closed later
>
>                    With objWord.ActiveDocument.MailMerge
>                        .SuppressBlankLines = True
>                        .ViewMailMergeFieldCodes = False
>                        .Destination = wdSendToNewDocument
>                        .Execute
>                    End With
>
>                    With objWord 'Close Main Document
>                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Activate
>                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Close 
>SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges
>                           ' Store background printing option.
>
>
>
>                     End With
>
>                objWord.Activate    ' Activates Word
>                objWord.Visible = True    ' Show Word to the user.
>                objWord.WindowState = wdWindowStateMaximize
>                Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.
>
>            On Error GoTo Failure
>
>                If MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?", vbYesNo, 
>"Form Letters") = vbYes Then
>
>                        gfLetterPrintedOK = True
>                        Set dbExportWord = CurrentDb()
>                        Set rsExportWord = 
>dbExportWord.OpenRecordset("tblLettersSent", dbOpenDynaset, 
>dbFailOnError)
>
>                        With rsExportWord
>                            .AddNew
>                                !LTRLPBNumber = gstrRLPBNumber
>                                !LTPropertyID = glngMainPropertyID
>                                !LTFormLetterID = gstrFormLetterID
>                                !LTComment = gstrFormLetterComment
>                                !LTDatePrinted = Date
>                                !LTTimePrinted = Time
>                            .Update
>                        End With
>
>                        Select Case getgstrFormLetterID()
>                            Case "A0001"
>                                dbExportWord.Execute "A000104", 
>dbFailOnError
>
>                        End Select
>                End If 'MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?"...
>      End If 'gstrAccessWordQuery = ""
>
>
>ExitRoutine:
>    On Error Resume Next
>        rsExportWord.Close
>        Set rsExportWord = Nothing
>        dbExportWord.Close
>        Set dbExportWord = Nothing
>        rsA0001.Close
>        Set rsA0001 = Nothing
>        Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.
>    Exit Sub
>
>Failure:
>        Call ErrorHandler(strProcedureName:="Export_Word",
>lngErrorNumber:=Err.Number, _
>            strErrorDescription:=Err.Description, _
>            strErrorSource:=Err.Source)
>        Resume ExitRoutine
>
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>
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From chise at charter.net  Sun Apr 10 11:39:23 2005
From: chise at charter.net (Charles Hise)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:39:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Solved problem, Query,
	Who didn't attend an in-service
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Thanks Phil, it worked. Thanks Artur, Susan for your help.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Phil Jewett
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 12:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Query, Who didn't attend an in-service

This is solved with a subquery to exclude those that DID attend course
10:
 
SELECT tblEmployee.empID from tblEmployee
 
WHERE (tblEmployee.status = 1 or tblEmployee.status = 2)
 
AND tblEmployeeID NOT IN
 
(SELECT tblEmployee.empID
FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining
ON tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID
WHERE tblCoursesTaught.ID = 10) ;
 
Almost always when you are working on a query that includes the dreaded
words 'and did not...' then you need a subquery to solve it.
 
Phil Jewett
Phil Jewett Consulting
pjewett at bayplace.com
(619 318-4899
 
Original message:
 
Access 03. I am trying to develop a query to find distinct employees who
did not attend an in-service. The following gives me the employees who
did attend;

SELECT DISTINCTROW tblEmployee.empID

FROM tblEmployee LEFT JOIN (tblCoursesTaught RIGHT JOIN tblEmplTraining
ON tblCoursesTaught.ID = tblEmplTraining.tblCoursesTaught_ID) ON
tblEmployee.empID = tblEmplTraining.empID

WHERE (((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=1)) OR

(((tblCoursesTaught.ID)=10) AND ((tblEmployee.status)=2));

If I use <>10 for tblCoursesTaught.ID, I get the same employees who
attended other in-services.

I have been working on this for weeks, research, etc. and am lost.

I would appreciate any help

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Sun Apr 10 18:43:44 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:43:44 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Built in Unzip program
In-Reply-To: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F1028B0B3@DISABILITYINS01>
References: <05C61C52D7CAD211A7830008C7DF6F1028B0B3@DISABILITYINS01>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050411113906.033ded30@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

John (and others),

I have looked at this site and notice the code is in VB (Not VBA).  Can it 
be converted to VBA?  What is involved?

What I am after is the ability to unzip a winzip file from within my 
distributed runtime program.  In the past I have used pkunzip but users of 
Windows XP Home edition are having problems with DOS programs not working 
unless some files are restored and most of them are having problems finding 
the on switch let alone finding and moving files (which may or may not be 
in certain locations).

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348

At 24/04/2002, you wrote:
>Here are the links to the freeware (very nice!) zip/unzip source code for
>roll your own zip/unzip.  I incorporated it in my framework in about an
>hour.
>
>http://www.vbaccelerator.com/codelib/zip/zip.htm
>http://www.vbaccelerator.com/codelib/zip/unzip.htm
>
>John W. Colby
>DIS Database Guy
>Colby Consulting
>www.colbyconsulting.com



From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Apr 10 19:43:59 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:43:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Set Reference or active x controls in a computer
Message-ID: <005701c53e2f$8d4bb060$6501a8c0@laptop1>

Trying to be a better developer how would I make sure I library I use on my
development machine (all Access installed) :the stuff I use in development
works o
 
How do I make sure it works on their machine without owning or affording an
install package?


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 10 20:00:33 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:00:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Set Reference or active x controls in a computer
In-Reply-To: <005701c53e2f$8d4bb060$6501a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <425A58D1.21787.150D1FB9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Apr 2005 at 17:43, Joe Hecht wrote:

> Trying to be a better developer how would I make sure I library I use on my
> development machine (all Access installed) :the stuff I use in development
> works o
> 
> How do I make sure it works on their machine without owning or affording an
> install package?

Download a free installation package?

There are a number listed at 
http://www.thefreecountry.com/programming/setup.shtml

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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Sun Apr 10 20:06:13 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 18:06:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Set Reference or active x controls in a computer
In-Reply-To: <425A58D1.21787.150D1FB9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200504110106.j3B161i29605@databaseadvisors.com>

Now that may work. Will have to look at that.

Any Idea to where to learn what all the library references are and when you
may want to use or the other?

Joe Hecht
jmhla at earthlink.net
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Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Set Reference or active x controls in a computer

On 10 Apr 2005 at 17:43, Joe Hecht wrote:

> Trying to be a better developer how would I make sure I library I use on
my
> development machine (all Access installed) :the stuff I use in development
> works o
> 
> How do I make sure it works on their machine without owning or affording
an
> install package?

Download a free installation package?

There are a number listed at 
http://www.thefreecountry.com/programming/setup.shtml

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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sun Apr 10 20:07:14 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:07:14 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Trouble with SQL statemnent on two different machines
Message-ID: <OF72E9ECB7.417ED268-ONCA256FE0.0005C7C9@agric.nsw.gov.au>


I now know exactly where this is failing.. on the
Max(Right[AuthorityNumber],5) As Number

Is tehre an Issue with these functions when using an XP machine? I have
copied the libraries and made sure all teh references match but it still
fails when processing the SQL Statement.

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange



Hi All,

I am havinbg an issue with a function and could use some fresh eyes and
knowledge. Both machines are running Access97 SR2. On my machine the
function works fine, on the users machine it falls over. We are accessing
the database from a central location.

Function as follows:

<code>
Private Function getstrNextAuthorityNumber() As String
'Automatically select the next availaible Authority Number for this type of
Authority
On Error GoTo Failure

Dim dbNextAuthority As Database
Dim rsNextAuthority As Recordset

Dim intNextAuthorityNumber As Integer

Dim strSelect As String


strSelect = "SELECT tblCAuthorityType.AuthorityPrefix,
Max(Right([AuthorityNumber],5)) AS [Number] " & _
                        "FROM tblCAuthorityType RIGHT JOIN tblDAuthority ON
tblCAuthorityType.AuthorityTypeID = tblDAuthority.AuthorityType " & _
                        "GROUP BY tblCAuthorityType.AuthorityPrefix " & _
                        "HAVING
(((tblCAuthorityType.AuthorityPrefix)=getgstrAuthorityPrefix()));"

On Error Resume Next

    Set dbNextAuthority = CurrentDb()
    Set rsNextAuthority = dbNextAuthority.OpenRecordset(strSelect,
dbOpenSnapshot, dbFailOnError)

        If rsNextAuthority.RecordCount < 1 Then 'No records - this will not
actually be used.
            intNextAuthorityNumber = 1 'Initial Authority Number for each
type
        Else
            intNextAuthorityNumber = rsNextAuthority!Number + 1 'Increment
last Authority Number by 1
        End If 'rsNextAuthorityNumber.RecordCount = 0

        getstrNextAuthorityNumber = getgstrAuthorityPrefix() & Right("0000"
& Trim(Str(intNextAuthorityNumber)), 5)

ExitRoutine:
        On Error Resume Next
            rsNextAuthority.Close
            Set rsNextAuthority = Nothing
            dbNextAuthority.Close
            Set dbNextAuthority = Nothing
        Exit Function

Failure:
        Call ErrorHandler(lngErrorNumber:=Err.Number,
strErrorDescription:=Err.Description, strErrorSource:=Err.Source)
        Resume ExitRoutine

End Function
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 10 20:18:02 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:18:02 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Trouble with SQL statemnent on two different
	machines
In-Reply-To: <OF72E9ECB7.417ED268-ONCA256FE0.0005C7C9@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <425A5CEA.19792.151D223B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 11 Apr 2005 at 11:07, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.go wrote:

> 
> I now know exactly where this is failing.. on the
> Max(Right[AuthorityNumber],5) As Number
> 
> Is tehre an Issue with these functions when using an XP machine? I have
> copied the libraries and made sure all teh references match but it still
> fails when processing the SQL Statement.
> 

Whenever you get a problem with String functions (in this case, I'd suspect 
the "Right") not working, the first place to look is for a missing 
Reference.  I'd suspect that you have a reference to a library which is on 
your machine but not on the user's machine.

Open the code on the user's machine, go to Tools-References and see if 
there are any problems.


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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sun Apr 10 23:28:47 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:28:47 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Trouble with SQL statement on two different machines
	- SOLVED
Message-ID: <OF9D591BD0.5BAE7238-ONCA256FE0.0013FCE0@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Thanks Stuart

I had checked the Libraries and references but went back again figuring I
had missed something

I noticed that the main machine referenced Access Library 8.0 as being a
file called MS097.DLL
Whereas the users machine had this reference to a file called MS097rt.DLL

Changed it to be the same file and it all works fine.

Thanks again for the assistance I think I am getting to the can't see the
forest for the trees here at the moment.

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 11 01:32:36 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:32:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Built in Unzip program
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050411113906.033ded30@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <0IER00H07RI9H4@l-daemon>

Hi David:

Virtually any VB code can be modified or installed or referenced to work
with Access.... I have never found one that could not.

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 4:44 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Built in Unzip program

John (and others),

I have looked at this site and notice the code is in VB (Not VBA).  Can it 
be converted to VBA?  What is involved?

What I am after is the ability to unzip a winzip file from within my 
distributed runtime program.  In the past I have used pkunzip but users of 
Windows XP Home edition are having problems with DOS programs not working 
unless some files are restored and most of them are having problems finding 
the on switch let alone finding and moving files (which may or may not be 
in certain locations).

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348

At 24/04/2002, you wrote:
>Here are the links to the freeware (very nice!) zip/unzip source code for
>roll your own zip/unzip.  I incorporated it in my framework in about an
>hour.
>
>http://www.vbaccelerator.com/codelib/zip/zip.htm
>http://www.vbaccelerator.com/codelib/zip/unzip.htm
>
>John W. Colby
>DIS Database Guy
>Colby Consulting
>www.colbyconsulting.com

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Apr 11 08:30:03 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:30:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374EF@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Mon Apr 11 08:36:06 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:36:06 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT Excel - Count Stores By Day Or Week
Message-ID: <30118133.1113226566692.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001>

To all,

I have an Excel sheet with store no, and date (DD/MM/YYYY), what I need to be able to do is on another sheet in the same workbook is have the user enter startdate (A1) and finishdate (A2).  Once they have done this I need to count all the stores in that particular date range, I used to have some similar formula to do something like this but can't seem to find it anywhere at the moment....

If anyone can help I would be very grateful....

Thanks in advance for all your help....

Paul Hartland

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Mon Apr 11 11:51:32 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:51:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
Message-ID: <s25a72f6.053@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs,
and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for the
Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 reports
to the program. The reports for these programs are identical to one
another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name, address,
age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and another "prog
B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries and it occurred
to me, because the form is starting to get crowded w/buttons, that there
may be a way to put these together somehow. I have created an option
group, which lists the programs, but now I would like to click on a
button that runs a report based on the option group choice. I know I can
do this, by calling different reports, but is there a way to actually
create one single report that uses the different queries based on this
same option choice?

Thanks,

John W Clark


From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Mon Apr 11 12:38:49 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:38:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2F5A@xlivmbx21.aig.com>


Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various versions of
the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report to a
copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy "FinalOutPut_qry",
or whatever.

Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code will
check which version of the query is needed and then use...

DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"

i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the 'disposable'
query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is bound.
The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB files.

Lambert

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> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs,
> and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for the
> Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 reports
> to the program. The reports for these programs are identical to one
> another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name, address,
> age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and another "prog
> B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries and it occurred
> to me, because the form is starting to get crowded w/buttons, that there
> may be a way to put these together somehow. I have created an option
> group, which lists the programs, but now I would like to click on a
> button that runs a report based on the option group choice. I know I can
> do this, by calling different reports, but is there a way to actually
> create one single report that uses the different queries based on this
> same option choice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W Clark
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Apr 11 12:51:41 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 10:51:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374EF@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAEBNCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.

thanks anyway.



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Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr 11 12:55:34 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:55:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B69D60@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9CF@ADGSERVER>

Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries (either
SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for the report in
the OnOpen event of the report.

In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values form the
calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the query
name or actually set the recordsource.

Bobby

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Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources



Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various versions of
the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report to a
copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy "FinalOutPut_qry",
or whatever.

Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code will
check which version of the query is needed and then use...

DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"

i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the 'disposable'
query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is bound.
The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB files.

Lambert

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> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs, 
> and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for the 
> Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 
> reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical 
> to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name, 
> address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and 
> another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries 
> and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded 
> w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
> have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
> would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the option 
> group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different reports, but 
> is there a way to actually create one single report that uses the 
> different queries based on this same option choice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W Clark
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr 11 13:06:35 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:06:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B69D6D@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9D1@ADGSERVER>

That should have read:

In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values from the
calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the query
name and set the recordsource for the report after the select statement or
actually set the recordsource in each case statement.

Sorry about that.

Bobby


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources


Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries (either
SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for the report in
the OnOpen event of the report.

In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values form the
calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the query
name or actually set the recordsource.

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources



Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various versions of
the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report to a
copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy "FinalOutPut_qry",
or whatever.

Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code will
check which version of the query is needed and then use...

DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"

i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the 'disposable'
query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is bound.
The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB files.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
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> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs,
> and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for the 
> Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 
> reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical 
> to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name, 
> address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and 
> another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries 
> and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded 
> w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
> have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
> would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the option 
> group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different reports, but 
> is there a way to actually create one single report that uses the 
> different queries based on this same option choice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W Clark
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From jim.moss at jlmoss.net  Mon Apr 11 13:08:15 2005
From: jim.moss at jlmoss.net (Jim Moss)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:08:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAEBNCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374EF@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
	<AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAEBNCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <40242.143.116.116.199.1113242895.squirrel@143.116.116.199>

Monarch does work with html though....

Jim


> sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.
>
> thanks anyway.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
> Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
> from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into
> Access.
> Jim Hale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
>
>
> Hello to the list,
>
> I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
> It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.
>
> It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
> same phrase ahead of the data of interest.
>
> So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
> that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
> interesting.
>
>
> thots?
>
> best,
>
> bob
>
> accesspro at nospamcox.net
>
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Apr 11 13:10:57 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:10:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374F2@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I have never tried Monarch with Word so I did not know this. It would still
be possible from code to save the Word doc as text and read this into
Monarch.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.

thanks anyway.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From pharold at proftesting.com  Mon Apr 11 13:45:48 2005
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:45:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B59D4@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <002901c53ec6$adac63d0$192da8c0@D58BT131Perry>

Wow, I thought that at @240 I had about 300 too many!

Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
know about when you started using the list.  Some of us have demonstrated
that we can barely remember code that we wrote yesterday and appreciate the
others in the list that are a handy resource to be reminded by.

Perry Harold

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?



The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the E-mails,
probably a year or so.

I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails? I now have
111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
:-)

Erwin


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have

> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
> 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Mon Apr 11 14:01:35 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:01:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
Message-ID: <s25a91c4.071@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

What is the command to set the record source? 

As a test I've started typing: If
[Forms]![frmrpt_quarterly]![FrameChoices] = 8 Then

I'm not sure how to set the recordset...I had thought that I had to use
the form name as a control, but it isn't taking it.

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 4/11/2005 1:55:34 PM >>>
Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries
(either
SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for the
report in
the OnOpen event of the report.

In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values
form the
calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the
query
name or actually set the recordsource.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources



Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various
versions of
the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report
to a
copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy
"FinalOutPut_qry",
or whatever.

Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code
will
check which version of the query is needed and then use...

DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"

i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the
'disposable'
query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is
bound.
The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB
files.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs,

> and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for
the 
> Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 
> reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical

> to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name,

> address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and 
> another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries

> and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded 
> w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
> have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
> would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the
option 
> group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different reports, but

> is there a way to actually create one single report that uses the 
> different queries based on this same option choice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W Clark
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From pharold at proftesting.com  Mon Apr 11 14:19:53 2005
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:19:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Trouble Shooting Help X Posted
In-Reply-To: <200504080327.j383RCi08625@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c53ecb$707535a0$192da8c0@D58BT131Perry>

Maybe number of copies is set to 2 on the specific printer?

Perry Harold

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: [AccessD] Trouble Shooting Help X Posted


 

The setup:

 

I have a split MDB where the network person for their reason has put both
ends on the server.

 

The files are Master.mdb and Data.MDB. There is a third file called user.mdb
User.MDB is a front end that also hits data.mdb. User is created by making
updates to master.MDB and then removing 2 forms that 2cnd person is not to
be able to edit. The users are in separate offices of the company about 40
miles apart.

 

The office manager in Office one uses Master.mdb by VPN. The order person in
office 2 reaches the server through remote desktop connection. They both run
Access locally on their machines. Network is W2k

 

*	Last Friday I installed the latest upgrades at office one, and
received client acceptance. I then called the remote office to confirm
functionality there. She claimed that she was getting a second report on
every Purchase Order she did. This second report is only supposed to print
when certain materials are ordered. The Purchase Orders and reports work ok
in the main office. Can anyone think of reason why this would be happening?

 

Thanks

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr 11 14:21:39 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:21:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B69D9E@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9D3@ADGSERVER>


I use something like (warning - air code):

Dim strSQL as string

	strSQL="SELECT * FROM SomeTable;"

	me.recordsource=strsql


Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:02 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources


What is the command to set the record source? 

As a test I've started typing: If [Forms]![frmrpt_quarterly]![FrameChoices]
= 8 Then

I'm not sure how to set the recordset...I had thought that I had to use the
form name as a control, but it isn't taking it.

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 4/11/2005 1:55:34 PM >>>
Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries (either
SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for the report in
the OnOpen event of the report.

In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values form the
calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the query
name or actually set the recordsource.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources



Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various versions of
the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report to a
copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy "FinalOutPut_qry",
or whatever.

Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code will
check which version of the query is needed and then use...

DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"

i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the 'disposable'
query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is bound.
The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB files.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs,

> and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for
the 
> Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9
> reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical

> to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name,

> address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and
> another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries

> and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded
> w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
> have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
> would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the
option 
> group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different reports, but

> is there a way to actually create one single report that uses the
> different queries based on this same option choice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W Clark
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 11 14:38:51 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:38:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <002901c53ec6$adac63d0$192da8c0@D58BT131Perry>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNOEMGDGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Perry,

 <<Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
know about when you started using the list. >>

 Well I guess I fall into the can't remember list<g>.  I was here for the
change hosting, and here for Gunderloy leaving, so it's been a while<g>.

  Probably longer then I would care to think about, which is why I probably
don't remember<g>.

Jim.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Perry Harold
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Wow, I thought that at @240 I had about 300 too many!

Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
know about when you started using the list.  Some of us have demonstrated
that we can barely remember code that we wrote yesterday and appreciate the
others in the list that are a handy resource to be reminded by.

Perry Harold

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?



The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the E-mails,
probably a year or so.

I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails? I now have
111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
:-)

Erwin


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have

> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
> 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Apr 11 14:42:30 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:42:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374F4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Here is some quick and dirty code that opens a Word doc from inside Access,
searches for the string "special code:" and sets a string variable equal to
the sentence that follows the code string. If your documents all have the
same string you can find that string and select words, sentences or
paragraphs that come after it. HTH
Jim Hale

Function LiftText()

Dim wd As Word.Application, strPhrase As String, strFindphrase As String
strFindphrase = "special code:"
Set wd = New Word.Application
wd.Documents.Open "C:\Test.doc"
wd.Visible = True
wd.Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
    With wd.Selection.Find
        .Text = strFindphrase
        .Replacement.Text = ""
        .Forward = True
        .Wrap = wdFindContinue
        .Format = False
        .MatchCase = False
        .MatchWholeWord = False
        .MatchWildcards = False
        .MatchSoundsLike = False
        .MatchAllWordForms = False
    End With
    wd.Selection.Find.Execute
    wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
    strPhrase = wd.Selection
    MsgBox "Look what I found: " & strPhrase
    wd.ActiveDocument.Close
    wd.Quit
    Set wd = Nothing
End Function

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.

thanks anyway.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Apr 11 15:59:10 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:59:10 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
Message-ID: <007001c53ed9$77431ec0$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

i have a table with a field [Para], that has values like:

2(2ma)
3(0v)
2(2v+2a)

what i would like is the total of numbers of field [Para],
as result in a new field [Para_total].

the result would be

4                  2(2ma)    = 2+2
3                  3(0v)        = 3+0
6                  2(2v+2a) = 2+2+2

Thanks 

Pedro Janssen


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Apr 11 16:16:06 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:16:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <19243122.1113253587763.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAc4MsxJM57kK6BXv5TJtXyQEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Hi Pedro,

Could you give more information?  Also, could you elaborate on how your
equations are working?

Dan Waters


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:59 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers

Hello Group,

i have a table with a field [Para], that has values like:

2(2ma)
3(0v)
2(2v+2a)

what i would like is the total of numbers of field [Para],
as result in a new field [Para_total].

the result would be

4                  2(2ma)    = 2+2
3                  3(0v)        = 3+0
6                  2(2v+2a) = 2+2+2

Thanks 

Pedro Janssen
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 11 16:35:56 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:35:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAc4MsxJM57kK6BXv5TJtXyQEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <20050411213551.FJUB4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

It looks to me like he needs to extract all the numbers in a given entry and
add them. Not an easy feat. 

Susan H. 

Hi Pedro,

Could you give more information?  Also, could you elaborate on how your
equations are working?

Dan Waters



From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Apr 11 17:14:45 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:14:45 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
References: <20050411213551.FJUB4997.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <00b401c53ee3$df364020$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello,

these values are headshield patterns of snakes.
Let me explain:
the value 2(2ma) means: 2 shields front + 2 shields middleback (ma =
middenachter in Dutch which means middleback in English).

I need the total number of shields. In my example 2+2 = 4

I'll hope somebody can help me on this.
The example above is of one kind of scale, i need to extract seven kind of
scales for each animal, an i have data from about 4500 snakes.

Thanks

Pedro

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From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:35 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] add numbers


> It looks to me like he needs to extract all the numbers in a given entry
and
> add them. Not an easy feat.
>
> Susan H.
>
> Hi Pedro,
>
> Could you give more information?  Also, could you elaborate on how your
> equations are working?
>
> Dan Waters
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:59 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers

Hello Group,

i have a table with a field [Para], that has values like:

2(2ma)
3(0v)
2(2v+2a)

what i would like is the total of numbers of field [Para],
as result in a new field [Para_total].

the result would be

4                  2(2ma)    = 2+2
3                  3(0v)        = 3+0
6                  2(2v+2a) = 2+2+2

Thanks

Pedro Janssen





From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Apr 11 17:22:47 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:22:47 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <007001c53ed9$77431ec0$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <425B8557.32082.19A30906@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 11 Apr 2005 at 22:59, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> 
>what i would like is the total of numbers of field [Para],
>as result in a new field [Para_total].
> 4                  2(2ma)    = 2+2
> 3                  3(0v)        = 3+0
> 6                  2(2v+2a) = 2+2+2
> 

Create a function:
Function Addnumbers (InputString as String) as Long
   Dim lngStore as Long
   Dim lngLoopcount as Long
   Dim strTemp as String
   For LngLoopcount = 1 to len(InputString)
         lngStore = Val(Mid$(InputString,lngLoopcount,1))
   Next
   Addnumbers = lngStore
End Function

In your Query  put a calculated field:
Para_Total:AddNumbers([Para])-- 
Stuart




From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Apr 11 18:23:10 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:23:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374F4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKGECCCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

thanks Jim.
a bit of manipulation of how much to grab and away I go!!!

bob



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Here is some quick and dirty code that opens a Word doc from inside Access,
searches for the string "special code:" and sets a string variable equal to
the sentence that follows the code string. If your documents all have the
same string you can find that string and select words, sentences or
paragraphs that come after it. HTH
Jim Hale

Function LiftText()

Dim wd As Word.Application, strPhrase As String, strFindphrase As String
strFindphrase = "special code:"
Set wd = New Word.Application
wd.Documents.Open "C:\Test.doc"
wd.Visible = True
wd.Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
    With wd.Selection.Find
        .Text = strFindphrase
        .Replacement.Text = ""
        .Forward = True
        .Wrap = wdFindContinue
        .Format = False
        .MatchCase = False
        .MatchWholeWord = False
        .MatchWildcards = False
        .MatchSoundsLike = False
        .MatchAllWordForms = False
    End With
    wd.Selection.Find.Execute
    wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
    strPhrase = wd.Selection
    MsgBox "Look what I found: " & strPhrase
    wd.ActiveDocument.Close
    wd.Quit
    Set wd = Nothing
End Function

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.

thanks anyway.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Apr 11 19:06:43 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 17:06:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNOEMGDGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAECDCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Ditto on Perry's observation. Keep adding memory to the machine and maybe we
can keep up.
Can't remember when the list was not around in some form.


Though, I do remember we used to have a DIALUP, yes, a BBS, here in San
Diego devoted to Access. It was operated by member of our users group. His
name is John C.

best,

bob heygood

accesspro at nospamcox.net



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:39 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Perry,

 <<Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
know about when you started using the list. >>

 Well I guess I fall into the can't remember list<g>.  I was here for the
change hosting, and here for Gunderloy leaving, so it's been a while<g>.

  Probably longer then I would care to think about, which is why I probably
don't remember<g>.

Jim.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Perry Harold
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Wow, I thought that at @240 I had about 300 too many!

Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
know about when you started using the list.  Some of us have demonstrated
that we can barely remember code that we wrote yesterday and appreciate the
others in the list that are a handy resource to be reminded by.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?



The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the E-mails,
probably a year or so.

I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails? I now have
111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
:-)

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have

> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
> 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr 11 19:25:33 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:25:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAECDCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <00d501c53ef6$27fb6170$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

LOL, that was AGES ago.  Luckily better things came along.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Ditto on Perry's observation. Keep adding memory to the machine and maybe we
can keep up. Can't remember when the list was not around in some form.


Though, I do remember we used to have a DIALUP, yes, a BBS, here in San
Diego devoted to Access. It was operated by member of our users group. His
name is John C.

best,

bob heygood

accesspro at nospamcox.net



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:39 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Perry,

 <<Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
know about when you started using the list. >>

 Well I guess I fall into the can't remember list<g>.  I was here for the
change hosting, and here for Gunderloy leaving, so it's been a while<g>.

  Probably longer then I would care to think about, which is why I probably
don't remember<g>.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Perry Harold
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Wow, I thought that at @240 I had about 300 too many!

Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
know about when you started using the list.  Some of us have demonstrated
that we can barely remember code that we wrote yesterday and appreciate the
others in the list that are a handy resource to be reminded by.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?



The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the E-mails,
probably a year or so.

I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails? I now have
111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
:-)

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)

And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
Del Mar, CA.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
MadeIt - Thanks)


Mark A Matte asked:
> This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of 
> all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have

> actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since 
> 1999.

John W. Colby:
> I found the list in July of 1997.

Kathryn Bassett:
I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.

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From handyman at actcom.co.il  Mon Apr 11 21:08:58 2005
From: handyman at actcom.co.il (handyman at actcom.co.il)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 04:08:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050412040535.022503a0@pop5.actcom.net.il>

I am looking to learn Frontpage and Dreamweaver.  Does anyone one have good 
book recommendations (for an advanced programmer), for a book that while 
covering the basics, also has good advanced features?

Thanks in advance

Gershon Markowitz
mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il



From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 11 21:47:29 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:47:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050412040535.022503a0@pop5.actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <0IET00F0IBR4BH@l-daemon>

Hi Gershon:

Susan Harkins co-wrote a book called 'Dreamweaver MX Databases' that might
help you. You can check it out or order it at, for example:
http://www.sybex.com/sybexbooks.nsf/booklist/4148

HTH
Jim

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Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I am looking to learn Frontpage and Dreamweaver.  Does anyone one have good 
book recommendations (for an advanced programmer), for a book that while 
covering the basics, also has good advanced features?

Thanks in advance

Gershon Markowitz
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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Apr 11 22:33:11 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 22:33:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050412040535.022503a0@pop5.actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <200504120333.j3C3XEcU223338@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Gershon,
I abandoned FrontPage back in 98. FrontPage 2003 looks to be a good product
with the same quality, standards based features as GoLive (which I have been
using since) has. I'm giving it another chance. I purchased "Using FrontPage
2003 by Paul Colligan (QUE). He is a FrontPage guru. He covers pretty much
everything including FrontPage VBA. Can't tell you much more than that yet
as I'm not finished with it but it looks promising.

John B.


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Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I am looking to learn Frontpage and Dreamweaver.  Does anyone one have good
book recommendations (for an advanced programmer), for a book that while
covering the basics, also has good advanced features?

Thanks in advance

Gershon Markowitz
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 12 01:11:58 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:11:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
Message-ID: <03e501c53f26$88e085d0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

I have a one page report and at the bottom it prints Page 1 of 2.  I'm using the standard ="Page " & [Page] & " of " & [Pages] to print the page numbers which was actually generated by the Access report wiz.

This has never failed before.

Has anyone seen anything like this?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 12 06:43:05 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:43:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B69E1B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9D8@ADGSERVER>

But if any of the numbers is greater than 9, this will not work properly.
It does look like it works ok for numbers less than 10.

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] add numbers


On 11 Apr 2005 at 22:59, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> 
>what i would like is the total of numbers of field [Para],
>as result in a new field [Para_total].
> 4                  2(2ma)    = 2+2
> 3                  3(0v)        = 3+0
> 6                  2(2v+2a) = 2+2+2
> 

Create a function:
Function Addnumbers (InputString as String) as Long
   Dim lngStore as Long
   Dim lngLoopcount as Long
   Dim strTemp as String
   For LngLoopcount = 1 to len(InputString)
         lngStore = Val(Mid$(InputString,lngLoopcount,1))
   Next
   Addnumbers = lngStore
End Function

In your Query  put a calculated field:
Para_Total:AddNumbers([Para])-- 
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Tue Apr 12 06:51:41 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:51:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
Message-ID: <s25b7e2a.031@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Thanks Bobby.

I'm a dolt...I always forget about the "me" when I am in a form. I
don't get to program in Access for months sometimes, and then I get back
into it and I keep forgetting the same stuff. The thing I love about my
job is the same thing I hate about my job...variety. I'll do Access for
a bit, then I'll do some IP telephony for a while, and then we mix in
some net admin duties and some other assorted tidbits, and VOILA! you've
got confusion ;)

But, it doesn't get boring ;)

Thanks again!

John W Clark

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 4/11/2005 3:21 PM >>>

I use something like (warning - air code):

Dim strSQL as string

	strSQL="SELECT * FROM SomeTable;"

	me.recordsource=strsql


Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 3:02 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources


What is the command to set the record source? 

As a test I've started typing: If
[Forms]![frmrpt_quarterly]![FrameChoices]
= 8 Then

I'm not sure how to set the recordset...I had thought that I had to use
the
form name as a control, but it isn't taking it.

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 4/11/2005 1:55:34 PM >>>
Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries
(either
SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for the
report in
the OnOpen event of the report.

In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values
form the
calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the
query
name or actually set the recordsource.

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources



Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various
versions of
the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report
to a
copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy
"FinalOutPut_qry",
or whatever.

Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code
will
check which version of the query is needed and then use...

DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"

i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the
'disposable'
query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is
bound.
The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB
files.

Lambert

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> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various
programs,

> and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for
the 
> Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9
> reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical

> to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have
name,

> address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and
> another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar
queries

> and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded
> w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
> have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
> would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the
option 
> group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different reports,
but

> is there a way to actually create one single report that uses the
> different queries based on this same option choice?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John W Clark
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 12 07:03:13 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:03:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9D8@ADGSERVER>
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B69E1B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <425C45A1.30085.1C9224C6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Apr 2005 at 7:43, Bobby Heid wrote:

> But if any of the numbers is greater than 9, this will not work properly.
> It does look like it works ok for numbers less than 10.
> 
It doesn't work. I should have put
    lngStore = lngStore + Val(Mid$(InputString,lngLoopcount,1))
instead of 
 lngStore = Val(Mid$(InputString,lngLoopcount,1))

That said, this one does work with multi digit numbers: 

Function Addnumbers(InputString As String) As Long
   Dim lngStore As Long
   Dim lngLoopcount As Long
   lngLoopcount = 0
   Do
         lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
         lngStore = lngStore + Val(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount))
         'move past current number
         While IsNumeric(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount, 1))
             lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
         Wend
   Loop Until lngLoopcount >= Len(InputString)
   Addnumbers = lngStore
End Function

-- 
Stuart




From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 12 07:17:42 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:17:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B69EC3@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9D9@ADGSERVER>

John,

That's par for the course in our line of work.  If you don't use it, you
lose it.

Glad I could help.

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:52 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources


Thanks Bobby.

I'm a dolt...I always forget about the "me" when I am in a form. I don't get
to program in Access for months sometimes, and then I get back into it and I
keep forgetting the same stuff. The thing I love about my job is the same
thing I hate about my job...variety. I'll do Access for a bit, then I'll do
some IP telephony for a while, and then we mix in some net admin duties and
some other assorted tidbits, and VOILA! you've got confusion ;)

But, it doesn't get boring ;)

Thanks again!

John W Clark

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 4/11/2005 3:21 PM >>>

I use something like (warning - air code):

Dim strSQL as string

	strSQL="SELECT * FROM SomeTable;"

	me.recordsource=strsql


Bobby



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 12 07:18:43 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:18:43 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <425C45A1.30085.1C9224C6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9D8@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <425C4943.16088.1CA055A6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Apr 2005 at 22:03, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> That said, this one does work with multi digit numbers: 
...
>          While IsNumeric(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount, 1))

I just tried this against Pedro's original examples and it broke on 
"2(2v+2a)". It returned 8 instead of 6.

The problem is that Val("+2a)") evaluates to 2, but IsNumeric("+") is 
false. So it adds 2 when it gets to the "+" and again when it gets to the 
"2"

This version handles "+2" and "-2" etc in the string as well:

Function Addnumbers(InputString As String) As Double
   Dim lngStore As Double
   Dim lngLoopcount As Double
   lngLoopcount = 0
   Do
     lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
         lngStore = lngStore + Val(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount))
         'move past current number
         While InStr("123456789+-", Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount, 1)) > 0
             lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
         Wend
   Loop Until lngLoopcount >= Len(InputString)
   Addnumbers = lngStore
End Function


-- 
Stuart




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 12 07:22:17 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:22:17 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <425C4943.16088.1CA055A6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <425C45A1.30085.1C9224C6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <425C4A19.15312.1CA3981F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Apr 2005 at 22:18, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> 
> This version handles "+2" and "-2" etc in the string as well:
> 

Yet another mod. I missed and then didn't test for a  "0" in the test 
string. This one should do it properly:

 Function Addnumbers(InputString As String) As Double
    Dim lngStore As Double
    Dim lngLoopcount As Double
    lngLoopcount = 0
    Do
      lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
          lngStore = lngStore + Val(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount))
          'move past current number
          While InStr("0123456789+-", Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount, 1)) > 0
              lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
          Wend
    Loop Until lngLoopcount >= Len(InputString)
    Addnumbers = lngStore
 End Function

-- 
Stuart




From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Apr 12 08:31:36 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:31:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
In-Reply-To: <3298817.1113276949572.JavaMail.root@sniper15>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAALOyTQidL00KT1vqmhaSr9wEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

I finished a web site a few weeks ago using FrontPage 2003 and the book from
Paul Colligan.  This was my first experience creating a web site.  I have no
experience to compare to, but I have no complaints to think of either.  I've
been specifically told that FP 2003 is a big improvement over previous
versions.

My site has no code in it, so I can't offer any comments on that aspect.

I would recommend this book.  It may not have advanced programming concepts,
but it sure did me a lot of good.

Dan Waters
http://www.promationsystems.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

Gershon,
I abandoned FrontPage back in 98. FrontPage 2003 looks to be a good product
with the same quality, standards based features as GoLive (which I have been
using since) has. I'm giving it another chance. I purchased "Using FrontPage
2003 by Paul Colligan (QUE). He is a FrontPage guru. He covers pretty much
everything including FrontPage VBA. Can't tell you much more than that yet
as I'm not finished with it but it looks promising.

John B.


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
handyman at actcom.co.il
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 9:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I am looking to learn Frontpage and Dreamweaver.  Does anyone one have good
book recommendations (for an advanced programmer), for a book that while
covering the basics, also has good advanced features?

Thanks in advance

Gershon Markowitz
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From randall.anthony at cox.net  Tue Apr 12 08:52:59 2005
From: randall.anthony at cox.net (Randall Anthony)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:52:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f305022207245070111e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005b01c53f66$f008cd90$6402a8c0@DF2PJY11>

Dear Listers,
This will serve as a partial follow-up to this discussion.  I can
happily report that I am employed full-time as of tomorrow with a local,
large health group.  It manages hospitals and health insurance in the
region.  I will be serving in a dba capacity using Access, SQL, and some
PICK, I think.  In addition, I will be assisting other developers in VB,
ASP, and the proposed changes to the .Net framework, including
developing new apps via .Net and conversion procedures.

I think I am quite fortunate that my plan has payed off.  My last class
was three weeks ago, and I've one exam left.  I am now MCP certified in
SQL2000 programming and administration, and .Net development (web and
VB.Net).  I hope to take the WinServer2003 exam in the next few weeks
(which will give me my MCDBA).  As I have mentioned before, in my area,
as expressed to me by more than a few potential employers, my
certs/formal training definitely gave me the leg up on my peers.  As a
result, my ROI should be paid off in less than 18 months due to the
increase in salary at my new job.

I guess I will be signing off later today, and hopefully, will be
signing on with my new email address in the next day or two.  I can't
see myself going to long without the advice and peerless technical savvy
displayed here.

Thanks, Steve, and everyone!

Randall R. Anthony


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?

Randy,

>> Thanks for the encouraging words.  Right now these certs and 50
cents will get me a cup of coffee!! <bg> <<

Hey! You oughta move up to Wisconsin. At least you could get a cup of
coffee AND A REFILL with that 50 cents.

Your story certainly confirms the idea that we're heading for a
credentialized society, eh?

Steve Erbach





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 12 09:19:02 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:19:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAALOyTQidL00KT1vqmhaSr9wEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <20050412141935.JVPX1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I think Martin has a paper somewhere that compares FP to Dreamweaver, don't
you Martin? How about a link?

Susan H. 

I finished a web site a few weeks ago using FrontPage 2003 and the book from
Paul Colligan.  This was my first experience creating a web site.  I have no
experience to compare to, but I have no complaints to think of either.  I've
been specifically told that FP 2003 is a big improvement over previous
versions.

My site has no code in it, so I can't offer any comments on that aspect.

I would recommend this book.  It may not have advanced programming concepts,
but it sure did me a lot of good.




From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Apr 12 09:38:20 2005
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:38:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
References: <20050412141935.JVPX1995.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000801c53f6d$46a809d0$9111758f@aine>

Sorry

It was an internal MS doc.

Martin


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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:19 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books


>I think Martin has a paper somewhere that compares FP to Dreamweaver, don't
> you Martin? How about a link?
>
> Susan H.
>
> I finished a web site a few weeks ago using FrontPage 2003 and the book 
> from
> Paul Colligan.  This was my first experience creating a web site.  I have 
> no
> experience to compare to, but I have no complaints to think of either. 
> I've
> been specifically told that FP 2003 is a big improvement over previous
> versions.
>
> My site has no code in it, so I can't offer any comments on that aspect.
>
> I would recommend this book.  It may not have advanced programming 
> concepts,
> but it sure did me a lot of good.
>
>
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr 12 09:55:41 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:55:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
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Message-ID: <200504121455.j3CEti5K129636@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

Dan,
FP2k3 is a HUGE upgrade. Biggest Upgrade ever. For instance, you no longer
have to use FrontPage server extensions so you can now easily post your
website on any server.

Actually I chuckle quite a bit as I'm reading this book. Paul does a good
job of not coming right out and saying "in this version of FP MS, copied how
the other major web design software functions". (To me, it looks like "MS
GoLive" minus the really handy Adobe "Smart Objects". FP even has Smart
Objects, just not one that interacts with Photoshop, illustrator, etc. the
way GoLive's does.)

Did he cover FP's VBA enough so that you might consider using it for added
functionality?

All cynicism aside, FP2k3 is looking like a top of the line web design/site
management product. Since I subscribe to MSDN anyway, maybe now I will use
FP and I can save a few hundred bucks on GoLive upgrades!


John B.


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I finished a web site a few weeks ago using FrontPage 2003 and the book from
Paul Colligan.  This was my first experience creating a web site.  I have no
experience to compare to, but I have no complaints to think of either.  I've
been specifically told that FP 2003 is a big improvement over previous
versions.

My site has no code in it, so I can't offer any comments on that aspect.

I would recommend this book.  It may not have advanced programming concepts,
but it sure did me a lot of good.

Dan Waters
http://www.promationsystems.com

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

Gershon,
I abandoned FrontPage back in 98. FrontPage 2003 looks to be a good product
with the same quality, standards based features as GoLive (which I have been
using since) has. I'm giving it another chance. I purchased "Using FrontPage
2003 by Paul Colligan (QUE). He is a FrontPage guru. He covers pretty much
everything including FrontPage VBA. Can't tell you much more than that yet
as I'm not finished with it but it looks promising.

John B.


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handyman at actcom.co.il
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 9:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I am looking to learn Frontpage and Dreamweaver.  Does anyone one have good
book recommendations (for an advanced programmer), for a book that while
covering the basics, also has good advanced features?

Thanks in advance

Gershon Markowitz
mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Apr 12 10:05:19 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:05:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A03@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?
 
 
Erwin
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Tue Apr 12 10:15:37 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:15:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help...almost there WAS: One report using alternate
	sources
Message-ID: <s25bae16.020@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I am so close!

Here is a snippet from my code...there are six more cases:


Select Case [Forms]![frmrpt_quarterly]![FrameChoices]
    Case 1
        strChoice = "qryApril05-SenComp"
        lblGeneric.Caption = "Senior Companion"
        logGeneric_Label.Caption = "Sen Comp"
    Case 2
        strChoice = "qryGeneric"
        lblGeneric.Caption = "EISEP"
        logGeneric_Label.Caption = "NFSC"


If on the calling form has the first option chosen, I get an error that
there is a "syntax error in the FROM clause", yet it runs fine with case
2. Are you not allowed to have the "-" character?


From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Tue Apr 12 10:22:30 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:22:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help...almost there WAS: One report using
	alternate sources
Message-ID: <s25baf84.029@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Yup. That must be it...I took out the "-" character, from the name...I
renamed it first...and it worked. Of course I have another problem, but
this is a small one and I've already figured it out...there is one field
that is different amongst these reports and I didn't account for it
yet.

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 4/12/2005 11:15 AM >>>
I am so close!

Here is a snippet from my code...there are six more cases:


Select Case [Forms]![frmrpt_quarterly]![FrameChoices]
    Case 1
        strChoice = "qryApril05-SenComp"
        lblGeneric.Caption = "Senior Companion"
        logGeneric_Label.Caption = "Sen Comp"
    Case 2
        strChoice = "qryGeneric"
        lblGeneric.Caption = "EISEP"
        logGeneric_Label.Caption = "NFSC"


If on the calling form has the first option chosen, I get an error
that
there is a "syntax error in the FROM clause", yet it runs fine with
case
2. Are you not allowed to have the "-" character?
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr 12 10:25:41 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:25:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899F26@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Does it actually print two pages or just one?  I have seen this, but it
has been caused by several different things, so you need to fill in the
blanks for us.  Do you have any physical page break in the report? Do
you have any formatting that breaks before or after a section?

Charlotte Foust


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From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:12 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering


Dear List:

I have a one page report and at the bottom it prints Page 1 of 2.  I'm
using the standard ="Page " & [Page] & " of " & [Pages] to print the
page numbers which was actually generated by the Access report wiz.

This has never failed before.

Has anyone seen anything like this?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 12 10:30:39 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:30:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
Message-ID: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the VBA code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago which I implemented on my old machine.

I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.

Thanks

Rocky


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Apr 12 10:27:21 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:27:21 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A04@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
IT Helps
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?
 
 
Erwin
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 12 10:45:56 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:45:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899F26@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <015301c53f76$b7c44030$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Charlotte:

No page breaks.  Three sub-reports in the detail section.

I have the following events :

Private Sub Detail_Format
Private Sub Detail_Print
Private Sub GroupFooter0_Print
Private Sub Report_NoData
Private Sub Report_Open
Private Sub ReportFooter_Format
Private Sub ReportHeader_Format

The format events mostly stick things into text boxes.  I do have :

    Me.MoveLayout = False
    Me.NextRecord = True
    Me.PrintSection = False
    Exit Sub

in a couple of places which get triggered on certain conditions.

Any clues there?

Thanks and Regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering


> Does it actually print two pages or just one?  I have seen this, but it
> has been caused by several different things, so you need to fill in the
> blanks for us.  Do you have any physical page break in the report? Do
> you have any formatting that breaks before or after a section?
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:12 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a one page report and at the bottom it prints Page 1 of 2.  I'm
> using the standard ="Page " & [Page] & " of " & [Pages] to print the
> page numbers which was actually generated by the Access report wiz.
>
> This has never failed before.
>
> Has anyone seen anything like this?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Apr 12 10:46:19 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:46:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
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Hi John,

Actually - I skipped the chapter on VBA in FrontPage.  My goal was to get my
site up ASAP.  But you now have me curious.  I will need to look in on what
VBA can do in a website.  And perhaps what it can do for manipulating data
in a database on the server!

Dan Waters


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

Dan,
FP2k3 is a HUGE upgrade. Biggest Upgrade ever. For instance, you no longer
have to use FrontPage server extensions so you can now easily post your
website on any server.

Actually I chuckle quite a bit as I'm reading this book. Paul does a good
job of not coming right out and saying "in this version of FP MS, copied how
the other major web design software functions". (To me, it looks like "MS
GoLive" minus the really handy Adobe "Smart Objects". FP even has Smart
Objects, just not one that interacts with Photoshop, illustrator, etc. the
way GoLive's does.)

Did he cover FP's VBA enough so that you might consider using it for added
functionality?

All cynicism aside, FP2k3 is looking like a top of the line web design/site
management product. Since I subscribe to MSDN anyway, maybe now I will use
FP and I can save a few hundred bucks on GoLive upgrades!


John B.


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I finished a web site a few weeks ago using FrontPage 2003 and the book from
Paul Colligan.  This was my first experience creating a web site.  I have no
experience to compare to, but I have no complaints to think of either.  I've
been specifically told that FP 2003 is a big improvement over previous
versions.

My site has no code in it, so I can't offer any comments on that aspect.

I would recommend this book.  It may not have advanced programming concepts,
but it sure did me a lot of good.

Dan Waters
http://www.promationsystems.com

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

Gershon,
I abandoned FrontPage back in 98. FrontPage 2003 looks to be a good product
with the same quality, standards based features as GoLive (which I have been
using since) has. I'm giving it another chance. I purchased "Using FrontPage
2003 by Paul Colligan (QUE). He is a FrontPage guru. He covers pretty much
everything including FrontPage VBA. Can't tell you much more than that yet
as I'm not finished with it but it looks promising.

John B.


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handyman at actcom.co.il
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 9:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I am looking to learn Frontpage and Dreamweaver.  Does anyone one have good
book recommendations (for an advanced programmer), for a book that while
covering the basics, also has good advanced features?

Thanks in advance

Gershon Markowitz
mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 12 10:46:25 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:46:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
References: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <015801c53f76$c8e4dd20$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Found something called VB Scroll Wheel Fix which seems to do the trick.

Rocky

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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:30 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


Dear List:

Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the VBA 
code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago 
which I implemented on my old machine.

I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where to 
download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.

Thanks

Rocky
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Apr 12 10:48:30 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:48:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <6162361.1113320165692.JavaMail.root@sniper23>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAACzDmZLb6H0OTzZCcd0FrVgEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Download MS Intellipoint version 4.1.2 and install.  

Dan Waters


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Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:31 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again

Dear List:

Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the VBA
code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago
which I implemented on my old machine.

I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where to
download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.

Thanks

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 12 10:56:14 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:56:14 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <s25c0be1.074@cactus.dk>

Hi Erwin

A clue is here:

  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the
property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
-
IT Helps
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?



From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Apr 12 11:13:28 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:13:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2F6F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

That is indeed an alternative approach. The difference is that the report
needs to figure out which query to use (by reading parameters from a form
probably) rather than the calling code which opens the form determining
which query to use.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
> Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 1:56 PM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries
> (either
> SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for the report
> in
> the OnOpen event of the report.
> 
> In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values form
> the
> calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the query
> name or actually set the recordsource.
> 
> Bobby
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> 
> 
> 
> Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various versions
> of
> the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report to
> a
> copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy
> "FinalOutPut_qry",
> or whatever.
> 
> Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code will
> check which version of the query is needed and then use...
> 
> DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
> "NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"
> 
> i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the
> 'disposable'
> query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is bound.
> The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB files.
> 
> Lambert
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> > Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
> > To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
> > 
> > I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs, 
> > and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for the 
> > Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 
> > reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical 
> > to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name, 
> > address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and 
> > another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries 
> > and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded 
> > w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
> > have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
> > would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the option 
> > group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different reports, but 
> > is there a way to actually create one single report that uses the 
> > different queries based on this same option choice?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > John W Clark
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 12 11:33:16 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:33:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B69FA9@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9E1@ADGSERVER>

And where might this beast be found?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


Found something called VB Scroll Wheel Fix which seems to do the trick.

Rocky



From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Tue Apr 12 11:41:19 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:41:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D17@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with the records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.

I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's not it.

Any help?

Thanks,
Neal


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr 12 12:02:27 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:02:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687397E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
version of Access was it for?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder


I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with the
records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.

I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
not it.

Any help?

Thanks,
Neal
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Apr 12 12:02:00 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:02:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
References: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920504121002812b4ed@mail.gmail.com>

On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
<bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Dear List:
> 
> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the VBA code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago which I implemented on my old machine.
> 
> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.

Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?

Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html

It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution

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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Apr 12 12:02:00 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:02:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
References: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920504121002812b4ed@mail.gmail.com>

On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
<bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Dear List:
> 
> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the VBA code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago which I implemented on my old machine.
> 
> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.

Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?

Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html

It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution

-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr 12 12:03:50 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:03:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAHmvuYH3US0K66qHUFyhkewEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <200504121704.j3CH3rcU282460@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Dan,
If you find anything interesting please let us know (maybe on DBA-TECH
though). It will be quite awhile before I get through the entire book. After
I do that I will probably try FP out on the next web site I get. Until then
I'm holding off upgrading GoLive and will maintain all of my other sites
with it. 

John "slow and steady" B.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:46 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

Hi John,

Actually - I skipped the chapter on VBA in FrontPage.  My goal was to get my
site up ASAP.  But you now have me curious.  I will need to look in on what
VBA can do in a website.  And perhaps what it can do for manipulating data
in a database on the server!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

Dan,
FP2k3 is a HUGE upgrade. Biggest Upgrade ever. For instance, you no longer
have to use FrontPage server extensions so you can now easily post your
website on any server.

Actually I chuckle quite a bit as I'm reading this book. Paul does a good
job of not coming right out and saying "in this version of FP MS, copied how
the other major web design software functions". (To me, it looks like "MS
GoLive" minus the really handy Adobe "Smart Objects". FP even has Smart
Objects, just not one that interacts with Photoshop, illustrator, etc. the
way GoLive's does.)

Did he cover FP's VBA enough so that you might consider using it for added
functionality?

All cynicism aside, FP2k3 is looking like a top of the line web design/site
management product. Since I subscribe to MSDN anyway, maybe now I will use
FP and I can save a few hundred bucks on GoLive upgrades!


John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I finished a web site a few weeks ago using FrontPage 2003 and the book from
Paul Colligan.  This was my first experience creating a web site.  I have no
experience to compare to, but I have no complaints to think of either.  I've
been specifically told that FP 2003 is a big improvement over previous
versions.

My site has no code in it, so I can't offer any comments on that aspect.

I would recommend this book.  It may not have advanced programming concepts,
but it sure did me a lot of good.

Dan Waters
http://www.promationsystems.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

Gershon,
I abandoned FrontPage back in 98. FrontPage 2003 looks to be a good product
with the same quality, standards based features as GoLive (which I have been
using since) has. I'm giving it another chance. I purchased "Using FrontPage
2003 by Paul Colligan (QUE). He is a FrontPage guru. He covers pretty much
everything including FrontPage VBA. Can't tell you much more than that yet
as I'm not finished with it but it looks promising.

John B.


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
handyman at actcom.co.il
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 9:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Frontpage/Dreamweaver books

I am looking to learn Frontpage and Dreamweaver.  Does anyone one have good
book recommendations (for an advanced programmer), for a book that while
covering the basics, also has good advanced features?

Thanks in advance

Gershon Markowitz
mailto:Handyman at actcom.co.il

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Apr 13 12:05:29 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:05:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9E1@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <01e101c5404a$fec3ce90$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

http://www.joebott.com/vb6scrollwheel.htm

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> And where might this beast be found?
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:46 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
>
> Found something called VB Scroll Wheel Fix which seems to do the trick.
>
> Rocky
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From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Tue Apr 12 12:11:05 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:11:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F251@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

It was either for 97 or 2K. It's been a couple/few of years since I've used it and I don't recall.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
version of Access was it for?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder


I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with the
records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.

I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
not it.

Any help?

Thanks,
Neal
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From DElam at jenkens.com  Tue Apr 12 12:24:05 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:24:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Date Range Query
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C02485CD8@natexch.jenkens.com>

I am trying to make a very simple query, but I am having an odd problem.

I want to make a date range selectable so I have "between [Start Date] and
[End Date]" as the criteria under a date.  Strangely this always returns
November and December of last year, regardless of the date entered.  If I
hard code the date, I get the correct records.

Background info that may be pertinent:
I am using Access XP with SQL 2000 backend just using linked tables.  The
date is coming through as text, but I have used Cdate([StartDate]) to help
make the query work.

Debbie
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 12 12:31:16 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:31:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B6A012@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9E5@ADGSERVER>

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


http://www.joebott.com/vb6scrollwheel.htm

Rocky

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> And where might this beast be found?
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:46 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
>
> Found something called VB Scroll Wheel Fix which seems to do the 
> trick.
>
> Rocky
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Apr 13 12:38:37 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:38:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
References: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
	<e04a6c920504121002812b4ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01ec01c5404f$9fab12b0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Bryan:

DBA site - the go button didn't go.

Rocky

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>> Dear List:
>>
>> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the VBA 
>> code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago 
>> which I implemented on my old machine.
>>
>> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where 
>> to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.
>
> Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?
>
> Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html
>
> It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution
>
> -- 
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> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
> shouting "What a great ride!"
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr 12 12:48:20 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:48:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E75@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

I think I got one from Arthur Fuller but I think it was on my last PC (that crashed).

Is Arthur lurking about?

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


It was either for 97 or 2K. It's been a couple/few of years since I've used it and I don't recall.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
version of Access was it for?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder


I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with the
records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.

I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
not it.

Any help?

Thanks,
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 12 13:01:17 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:01:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <s25c292d.078@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Could it be Larry Diener?

Date: 19-07-1999 15:34:58
Subject: 	RE: [accessd] Tool for creating class modules from
tables or queries

I have sent copies of the ClassBuilder form to all who have requested
it
so far.  If you asked me for it and have not received it please ask
again.  There was a minor code modification which I sent directly to
those who needed it.  It corrected a problem where the first field of
the record was not accounted for in the GetData and SaveData methods.
If you received the code modification, please do not distribute the
utility without replacing existing code with the code I sent.  If you
don't feel comfortable doing this let me know and I'll send you a new
copy of the form. 

Mark Breen asked two questions which I thought those interested in the
utility might benefit from the responses.

1) I presume you are using this in conjunction with SQL Server?
Any comments to make ?  Does it work well ?

I am using the utility for Access and SQL tables and queries.  I have
also tested it on attached CSV files.  Essentially anything that
Access
allows you to link to should work.  The only limitations are that if
the
utility cannot detect a primary key (named 'PrimaryKey') then the
where
clause can not be automatically determined.  One could modify the
routine to enumerate the existing indexes on a table ant then pick one
for use.  I'll leave this as an exercise for the reader.   Also, field
types are determined if possible.  If a field type cannot be
determined
or is not in a predefined list the field and its working variables are
typed as variants in the class.  Some would say that this is an
advantage since variants handle nulls and explicitly typed variables
do
not.  One could easily modify the select case statement in the
CreateTableClass() function for more resolution. 

It works well for my purposes.  Other Property builders I've seen
build
one variable at a time and I've almost always needed to create a
record
class for all the fields in a table.  Personally, I'm thrilled with
it.
It has worked for me in every instance that I have used it and it has
saved a great deal of typing time.  

2) BTW, when you create an Access FE, do you still create linked
tables
an use these as record sources for the forms ?  

I typically use an Access FE and a SQL backend.  I still link all my
SQL
tables to the database then I create classes to handle specific cases
or
complex situations where I need to control several records from
different tables as a unit.  In one specific case where I recently
normalized a complex table based on standard hospital bill forms
(UB-92)
into three separate tables, I built several classes to accommodate the
data in each table and then built relationships between the classes
using collection classes.  To make a long story short, the
statisticians
are very happy because the tables are normalized and the changes were
transparent to the user because the form is the same.  Underneath it
all
though is a faster and more controlled record creation and retrieval
'engine' handled by the classes. It is faster because the class only
handles a single record, or a limited group of records in the case of
a
collection, and the data are stored in memory (somewhat like an array)
while being used. 

Like arrays, classes can't be used directly as recordsources (AFAIK)
so
at least three other functions are required to make practical use of
them on forms.  First you need a 'scatter' function which initializes
the class, calls the getdata method and then distributes the data to
the
unbound controls on your form.  I usually call this function in the
onload event of the form. Second, you need a 'gather' function which
collects the data from the form and writes it back to the underlying
data source. Third Unbound forms don't have a dirty property so you
need
to simulate the dirty property by comparing the data in the unbound
controls to the data in the underlying record being viewed.  

I'll stop there and suggest a few references for our review.  

Chapter 3 in the ADH discussed class based forms.
MS KB articles:  Q177972, Q160007 , Q159827, Q160012   

I don't consider my self an expert on classes (or much else for that
matter :-)) but I'd be happy to continue this discussion if there is
additional interest.  I can also provide you with a simple example of
a
form using the scatter and gather functions as well as the
IsRecordDirty
function if you'd like.

Regards,

Larry           
-- 


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/12 7:48 pm >>>
I think I got one from Arthur Fuller but I think it was on my last PC
(that crashed).

Is Arthur lurking about?

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


It was either for 97 or 2K. It's been a couple/few of years since I've
used it and I don't recall.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
version of Access was it for?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder


I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with
the
records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.

I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
not it.

Any help?

Thanks,
Neal



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Apr 12 13:02:31 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:02:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <01ec01c5404f$9fab12b0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
References: <014e01c53f74$94ec0860$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
	<e04a6c920504121002812b4ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<01ec01c5404f$9fab12b0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920504121102299626d2@mail.gmail.com>

On Apr 13, 2005 1:38 PM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
<bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Bryan:
> 
> DBA site - the go button didn't go.

OK. IIRC, that points at Drew's archive. I'll let Jim know.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Tue Apr 12 13:13:14 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:13:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE41114D18@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

That sure sounds like it. Does anyone have Larry's email address? Or does anyone have this form?

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


Hi Jim

Could it be Larry Diener?

Date: 19-07-1999 15:34:58
Subject: 	RE: [accessd] Tool for creating class modules from
tables or queries

I have sent copies of the ClassBuilder form to all who have requested
it
so far.  If you asked me for it and have not received it please ask
again.  There was a minor code modification which I sent directly to
those who needed it.  It corrected a problem where the first field of
the record was not accounted for in the GetData and SaveData methods.
If you received the code modification, please do not distribute the
utility without replacing existing code with the code I sent.  If you
don't feel comfortable doing this let me know and I'll send you a new
copy of the form. 

Mark Breen asked two questions which I thought those interested in the
utility might benefit from the responses.

1) I presume you are using this in conjunction with SQL Server?
Any comments to make ?  Does it work well ?

I am using the utility for Access and SQL tables and queries.  I have
also tested it on attached CSV files.  Essentially anything that
Access
allows you to link to should work.  The only limitations are that if
the
utility cannot detect a primary key (named 'PrimaryKey') then the
where
clause can not be automatically determined.  One could modify the
routine to enumerate the existing indexes on a table ant then pick one
for use.  I'll leave this as an exercise for the reader.   Also, field
types are determined if possible.  If a field type cannot be
determined
or is not in a predefined list the field and its working variables are
typed as variants in the class.  Some would say that this is an
advantage since variants handle nulls and explicitly typed variables
do
not.  One could easily modify the select case statement in the
CreateTableClass() function for more resolution. 

It works well for my purposes.  Other Property builders I've seen
build
one variable at a time and I've almost always needed to create a
record
class for all the fields in a table.  Personally, I'm thrilled with
it.
It has worked for me in every instance that I have used it and it has
saved a great deal of typing time.  

2) BTW, when you create an Access FE, do you still create linked
tables
an use these as record sources for the forms ?  

I typically use an Access FE and a SQL backend.  I still link all my
SQL
tables to the database then I create classes to handle specific cases
or
complex situations where I need to control several records from
different tables as a unit.  In one specific case where I recently
normalized a complex table based on standard hospital bill forms
(UB-92)
into three separate tables, I built several classes to accommodate the
data in each table and then built relationships between the classes
using collection classes.  To make a long story short, the
statisticians
are very happy because the tables are normalized and the changes were
transparent to the user because the form is the same.  Underneath it
all
though is a faster and more controlled record creation and retrieval
'engine' handled by the classes. It is faster because the class only
handles a single record, or a limited group of records in the case of
a
collection, and the data are stored in memory (somewhat like an array)
while being used. 

Like arrays, classes can't be used directly as recordsources (AFAIK)
so
at least three other functions are required to make practical use of
them on forms.  First you need a 'scatter' function which initializes
the class, calls the getdata method and then distributes the data to
the
unbound controls on your form.  I usually call this function in the
onload event of the form. Second, you need a 'gather' function which
collects the data from the form and writes it back to the underlying
data source. Third Unbound forms don't have a dirty property so you
need
to simulate the dirty property by comparing the data in the unbound
controls to the data in the underlying record being viewed.  

I'll stop there and suggest a few references for our review.  

Chapter 3 in the ADH discussed class based forms.
MS KB articles:  Q177972, Q160007 , Q159827, Q160012   

I don't consider my self an expert on classes (or much else for that
matter :-)) but I'd be happy to continue this discussion if there is
additional interest.  I can also provide you with a simple example of
a
form using the scatter and gather functions as well as the
IsRecordDirty
function if you'd like.

Regards,

Larry           
-- 


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/12 7:48 pm >>>
I think I got one from Arthur Fuller but I think it was on my last PC
(that crashed).

Is Arthur lurking about?

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


It was either for 97 or 2K. It's been a couple/few of years since I've
used it and I don't recall.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
version of Access was it for?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder


I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with
the
records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.

I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
not it.

Any help?

Thanks,
Neal

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 12 13:20:03 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:20:03 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <s25c2d83.079@cactus.dk>

Hi Neal

This is an old one:

  Diener, Larry <diene001 at onyx.mc.duke.edu>

/gustav

>>> nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us 04/12 8:13 pm >>>
That sure sounds like it. Does anyone have Larry's email address? Or
does anyone have this form?

Neal



From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Tue Apr 12 13:25:21 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:25:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F254@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

Thanks Gustav,

But, unfortunately it bounced as undeliverable.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:20 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


Hi Neal

This is an old one:

  Diener, Larry <diene001 at onyx.mc.duke.edu>

/gustav

>>> nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us 04/12 8:13 pm >>>
That sure sounds like it. Does anyone have Larry's email address? Or
does anyone have this form?

Neal

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Apr 12 14:07:01 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:07:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B6A090@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9E7@ADGSERVER>

This sounds like a good time to write your own!  Then you can share it with
the rest of us.  :)

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


Thanks Gustav,

But, unfortunately it bounced as undeliverable.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:20 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


Hi Neal

This is an old one:

  Diener, Larry <diene001 at onyx.mc.duke.edu>

/gustav

>>> nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us 04/12 8:13 pm >>>
That sure sounds like it. Does anyone have Larry's email address? Or does
anyone have this form?

Neal



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr 12 14:33:46 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:33:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E7A@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

That description does sound familiar Gustav.  Maybe Arthur got it from Larry and forwarded to me (I don't think I'm familiar with Larry).

Thanks,

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


Hi Jim

Could it be Larry Diener?

Date: 19-07-1999 15:34:58
Subject: 	RE: [accessd] Tool for creating class modules from
tables or queries

I have sent copies of the ClassBuilder form to all who have requested
it
so far.  If you asked me for it and have not received it please ask
again.  There was a minor code modification which I sent directly to
those who needed it.  It corrected a problem where the first field of
the record was not accounted for in the GetData and SaveData methods.
If you received the code modification, please do not distribute the
utility without replacing existing code with the code I sent.  If you
don't feel comfortable doing this let me know and I'll send you a new
copy of the form. 

Mark Breen asked two questions which I thought those interested in the
utility might benefit from the responses.

1) I presume you are using this in conjunction with SQL Server?
Any comments to make ?  Does it work well ?

I am using the utility for Access and SQL tables and queries.  I have
also tested it on attached CSV files.  Essentially anything that
Access
allows you to link to should work.  The only limitations are that if
the
utility cannot detect a primary key (named 'PrimaryKey') then the
where
clause can not be automatically determined.  One could modify the
routine to enumerate the existing indexes on a table ant then pick one
for use.  I'll leave this as an exercise for the reader.   Also, field
types are determined if possible.  If a field type cannot be
determined
or is not in a predefined list the field and its working variables are
typed as variants in the class.  Some would say that this is an
advantage since variants handle nulls and explicitly typed variables
do
not.  One could easily modify the select case statement in the
CreateTableClass() function for more resolution. 

It works well for my purposes.  Other Property builders I've seen
build
one variable at a time and I've almost always needed to create a
record
class for all the fields in a table.  Personally, I'm thrilled with
it.
It has worked for me in every instance that I have used it and it has
saved a great deal of typing time.  

2) BTW, when you create an Access FE, do you still create linked
tables
an use these as record sources for the forms ?  

I typically use an Access FE and a SQL backend.  I still link all my
SQL
tables to the database then I create classes to handle specific cases
or
complex situations where I need to control several records from
different tables as a unit.  In one specific case where I recently
normalized a complex table based on standard hospital bill forms
(UB-92)
into three separate tables, I built several classes to accommodate the
data in each table and then built relationships between the classes
using collection classes.  To make a long story short, the
statisticians
are very happy because the tables are normalized and the changes were
transparent to the user because the form is the same.  Underneath it
all
though is a faster and more controlled record creation and retrieval
'engine' handled by the classes. It is faster because the class only
handles a single record, or a limited group of records in the case of
a
collection, and the data are stored in memory (somewhat like an array)
while being used. 

Like arrays, classes can't be used directly as recordsources (AFAIK)
so
at least three other functions are required to make practical use of
them on forms.  First you need a 'scatter' function which initializes
the class, calls the getdata method and then distributes the data to
the
unbound controls on your form.  I usually call this function in the
onload event of the form. Second, you need a 'gather' function which
collects the data from the form and writes it back to the underlying
data source. Third Unbound forms don't have a dirty property so you
need
to simulate the dirty property by comparing the data in the unbound
controls to the data in the underlying record being viewed.  

I'll stop there and suggest a few references for our review.  

Chapter 3 in the ADH discussed class based forms.
MS KB articles:  Q177972, Q160007 , Q159827, Q160012   

I don't consider my self an expert on classes (or much else for that
matter :-)) but I'd be happy to continue this discussion if there is
additional interest.  I can also provide you with a simple example of
a
form using the scatter and gather functions as well as the
IsRecordDirty
function if you'd like.

Regards,

Larry           
-- 


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/12 7:48 pm >>>
I think I got one from Arthur Fuller but I think it was on my last PC
(that crashed).

Is Arthur lurking about?

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


It was either for 97 or 2K. It's been a couple/few of years since I've
used it and I don't recall.

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder


The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
version of Access was it for?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder


I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with
the
records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.

I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
not it.

Any help?

Thanks,
Neal

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 12 14:43:08 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:43:08 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D
Message-ID: <s25c4115.080@cactus.dk>

Hi all

What is 1337 D00D supposed to mean? Except for the decimal/hexadecimal
expression.

Not much Access in this, I guess, but this group knows everything ...

/gustav


From pctech at mybellybutton.com  Tue Apr 12 15:03:59 2005
From: pctech at mybellybutton.com (Frank Tanner III)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:03:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D
In-Reply-To: <s25c4115.080@cactus.dk>
References: <s25c4115.080@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1113336239.4704.0.camel@lattitude>

On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 21:43 +0200, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> What is 1337 D00D supposed to mean? Except for the decimal/hexadecimal
> expression.
> 
> Not much Access in this, I guess, but this group knows everything ...
> 
> /gustav

It stands for "Leet Dude" It's the way script kiddies who are wanna-be
hackers refer to the good ones in their groups.

-- 
----------------------------------------------------
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AIM: KalokSundancer
MSN: pctech at mybellybutton.com
ICQ: 1730844
YIM: fbtanner



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 12 15:14:26 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:14:26 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D
Message-ID: <s25c4859.081@cactus.dk>

Thanks Frank! 
So you are still here, lurking mostly?

/gustav


>>> pctech at mybellybutton.com 04/12 10:03 pm >>>
On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 21:43 +0200, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> What is 1337 D00D supposed to mean? Except for the
decimal/hexadecimal
> expression.
> 
> Not much Access in this, I guess, but this group knows everything
...
> 
> /gustav

It stands for "Leet Dude" It's the way script kiddies who are wanna-be
hackers refer to the good ones in their groups.

-- 
----------------------------------------------------
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AIM: KalokSundancer
MSN: pctech at mybellybutton.com 
ICQ: 1730844
YIM: fbtanner



From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Tue Apr 12 15:20:09 2005
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Don [ITS])
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:20:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D
Message-ID: <E2B2D43190AF7948BF79EF0079153D3CE56BBE@PDAWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Hi Gustav

Have a look here:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=1337



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D


Hi all

What is 1337 D00D supposed to mean? Except for the decimal/hexadecimal
expression.

Not much Access in this, I guess, but this group knows everything ...

/gustav
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Apr 12 15:57:14 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:57:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?
In-Reply-To: <005b01c53f66$f008cd90$6402a8c0@DF2PJY11>
Message-ID: <002501c53fa2$38f35490$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Congratulations!!!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall Anthony
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:53 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?


Dear Listers,
This will serve as a partial follow-up to this discussion.  I can happily
report that I am employed full-time as of tomorrow with a local, large
health group.  It manages hospitals and health insurance in the region.  I
will be serving in a dba capacity using Access, SQL, and some PICK, I think.
In addition, I will be assisting other developers in VB, ASP, and the
proposed changes to the .Net framework, including developing new apps via
.Net and conversion procedures.

I think I am quite fortunate that my plan has payed off.  My last class was
three weeks ago, and I've one exam left.  I am now MCP certified in SQL2000
programming and administration, and .Net development (web and VB.Net).  I
hope to take the WinServer2003 exam in the next few weeks (which will give
me my MCDBA).  As I have mentioned before, in my area, as expressed to me by
more than a few potential employers, my certs/formal training definitely
gave me the leg up on my peers.  As a result, my ROI should be paid off in
less than 18 months due to the increase in salary at my new job.

I guess I will be signing off later today, and hopefully, will be signing on
with my new email address in the next day or two.  I can't see myself going
to long without the advice and peerless technical savvy displayed here.

Thanks, Steve, and everyone!

Randall R. Anthony


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?

Randy,

>> Thanks for the encouraging words.  Right now these certs and 50
cents will get me a cup of coffee!! <bg> <<

Hey! You oughta move up to Wisconsin. At least you could get a cup of coffee
AND A REFILL with that 50 cents.

Your story certainly confirms the idea that we're heading for a
credentialized society, eh?

Steve Erbach



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From pctech at mybellybutton.com  Tue Apr 12 15:59:16 2005
From: pctech at mybellybutton.com (Frank Tanner III)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:59:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D
In-Reply-To: <s25c4859.081@cactus.dk>
References: <s25c4859.081@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1113339556.4704.2.camel@lattitude>

Yeppers.  Mostly lurking.  Not doing much Access stuff at the moment,
but I still like to keep informed.

On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 22:14 +0200, Gustav Brock wrote:
> Thanks Frank! 
> So you are still here, lurking mostly?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> pctech at mybellybutton.com 04/12 10:03 pm >>>
> On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 21:43 +0200, Gustav Brock wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > What is 1337 D00D supposed to mean? Except for the
> decimal/hexadecimal
> > expression.
> > 
> > Not much Access in this, I guess, but this group knows everything
> ...
> > 
> > /gustav
> 
> It stands for "Leet Dude" It's the way script kiddies who are wanna-be
> hackers refer to the good ones in their groups.
> 
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------------------
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> 
> AIM: KalokSundancer
> MSN: pctech at mybellybutton.com 
> ICQ: 1730844
> YIM: fbtanner
> 
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From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Apr 12 15:51:58 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:51:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
References: <425C45A1.30085.1C9224C6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<425C4A19.15312.1CA3981F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <006b01c53fa2$8fdcc7f0$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello Stuart,

thanks for your help. The function works perfect.But i forgot to tell that
in the field [Para], also "normal" values are present like from 1 to 9. When
using the function i get an error.on the: While InStr..... I tried to adjust
the code, with no result.

Could you help again.

Thanks

Pedro

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] add numbers


> On 12 Apr 2005 at 22:18, Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>
> >
> > This version handles "+2" and "-2" etc in the string as well:
> >
>
> Yet another mod. I missed and then didn't test for a  "0" in the test
> string. This one should do it properly:
>
>  Function Addnumbers(InputString As String) As Double
>     Dim lngStore As Double
>     Dim lngLoopcount As Double
>     lngLoopcount = 0
>     Do
>       lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
>           lngStore = lngStore + Val(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount))
>           'move past current number
>           While InStr("0123456789+-", Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount, 1))
> 0
>               lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
>           Wend
>     Loop Until lngLoopcount >= Len(InputString)
>     Addnumbers = lngStore
>  End Function
>
> --
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>
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 12 16:58:23 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:58:23 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
In-Reply-To: <006b01c53fa2$8fdcc7f0$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <425CD11F.11283.1EB30889@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Apr 2005 at 22:51, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Hello Stuart,
> 
> thanks for your help. The function works perfect.But i forgot to tell that
> in the field [Para], also "normal" values are present like from 1 to 9. When
> using the function i get an error.on the: While InStr..... I tried to adjust
> the code, with no result.
> 

Me bad, I didn't check for the end of the string in the While Loop.
Try this one instead (watch for line wrap)

Function Addnumbers(InputString As String) As Double
   Dim lngStore As Double
   Dim lngLoopcount As Double
   lngLoopcount = 0
   Do
     lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
         lngStore = lngStore + Val(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount))
         'move past current number
         While InStr("0123456789+-", Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount, 1)) > 0  And lngLoopcount <= Len(InputString)
             lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
         Wend
   Loop Until lngLoopcount >= Len(InputString)
   Addnumbers = lngStore
End Function-- 
Stuart




From nd500_lo at charter.net  Tue Apr 12 17:28:15 2005
From: nd500_lo at charter.net (Dian)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:28:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC04F3C4@dewey.Symphony.local>
Message-ID: <3rr9ri$ubsq0o@mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net>

I really had to think about this one...I first was involved just before the
Great PK Debate started, then had an accident that took me out of the game
(but, my darling husband printed out all the messages and read them to me
while I recuperated). Then, things went very slowly for me, but I "lurked"
in the background. When I was ready to jump back into the real world...this
list had answered every question I had and I had a little business that
worked really well for me. In 2000, my husband died and something in me went
with him, so I've retired to California and live with my folks...keeping
them in line and on their feet. Right now, though, seems a good time to
say...all of you, whether you realized it or not, have all been very special
to me. No matter where my work took me, I always knew that you were here
and, if you hadn't already answered a question (most of the time the
archives were enough) you would do your level best to help me through
anything...so I never hesitated to take on a new challenge. I owe you all a
debt I can never repay. Thank you all!



From artful at rogers.com  Tue Apr 12 17:58:09 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:58:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNOEMGDGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
References: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNOEMGDGAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <425C5281.2010703@rogers.com>

I have no idea when I first visited this list. I do know that it saved 
my ass more than once, and that I over the years I have made some good 
friends and trusted colleagues. I'd guess that I've been here 5 years 
but I could be wrong either way.

Jim Dettman wrote:

>Perry,
>
> <<Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
>know about when you started using the list. >>
>
> Well I guess I fall into the can't remember list<g>.  I was here for the
>change hosting, and here for Gunderloy leaving, so it's been a while<g>.
>
>  Probably longer then I would care to think about, which is why I probably
>don't remember<g>.
>
>Jim.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Perry Harold
>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:46 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
>
>
>Wow, I thought that at @240 I had about 300 too many!
>
>Also, I'm glad to see that so many of you still have a good memory so you
>know about when you started using the list.  Some of us have demonstrated
>that we can barely remember code that we wrote yesterday and appreciate the
>others in the list that are a handy resource to be reminded by.
>
>Perry Harold
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
>Helps
>Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:51 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
>
>
>
>The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
>I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not archived the E-mails,
>probably a year or so.
>
>I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived E-mails? I now have
>111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
>:-)
>
>Erwin
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
>Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
>FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)
>
>And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at Rockie's house in
>Del Mar, CA.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
>Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
>MadeIt - Thanks)
>
>
>Mark A Matte asked:
>  
>
>>This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
>>all list members...It would be interesting to see how long people have
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
>>1999.
>>    
>>
>
>John W. Colby:
>  
>
>>I found the list in July of 1997.
>>    
>>
>
>Kathryn Bassett:
>I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.
>
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>
>
>  
>


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 12 18:17:23 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:17:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <3rr9ri$ubsq0o@mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <20050412231727.PGRJ2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

In 2000, my husband died and something in me went with him, so I've retired
to California and live with my folks...

=========Dian, I tried to respond privately, but I couldn't find your email
in the header. I just wanted to say that I'm sorry. 

Susan H. 



From nd500_lo at charter.net  Tue Apr 12 19:05:57 2005
From: nd500_lo at charter.net (Dian)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:05:57 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <20050412231727.PGRJ2068.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <3rr3lu$pcibev@mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net>

Susan, thank you...but, you had no way of knowing...and your books (several
of them, actually) have helped me survive all the worst of it. I'm a major
fan. Thank you again...

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 

In 2000, my husband died and something in me went with him, so I've retired
to California and live with my folks...

=========Dian, I tried to respond privately, but I couldn't find your email
in the header. I just wanted to say that I'm sorry. 

Susan H. 

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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Apr 12 19:56:14 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:56:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2F6F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
References: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2F6F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <425C6E2E.9080807@rogers.com>

It's tough to pass parms into a report in any intelligent way. I suggest 
instead that you use static functions to set the values your report 
requires.

(A static function is one that remembers its value from call to call. 
Typically a static function is called in two ways -- one to set it and 
one to get itl This will become apparent below.)

Here is a template static function to use and modify to suit your needs.

<code>
Static Function CurrentX(Optional lngNew As Long) As Long
'Copy this template each time you need a new set/get function
'Then Replace "X" with the name of your object, i.e.,"Employee"
'Replace all in current proc and you're done.

    Dim lngCurrent As Long
    If lngNew <> 0 Then lngCurrent = lngNew
    CurrentX = lngCurrent
    #If conDebug = 1 Then
        Debug.Print "Current X: ", CurrentX
    #End If
End Function
</code>

You call such a function in two ways:
Set: CurrentX( 123 )     ' sets the value of CurrentX
CurrentX()                    ' gets the current value of CurrentX

Thus you set the function before running your report and then either tie 
the value of CurrentX() to a control or include it in your query, then 
set the control to said value. Doesn't matter which you do. This way you 
obviate all the hassles.

HTH,
Arthur

Heenan, Lambert wrote:

>That is indeed an alternative approach. The difference is that the report
>needs to figure out which query to use (by reading parameters from a form
>probably) rather than the calling code which opens the form determining
>which query to use.
>
>Lambert
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
>>Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 1:56 PM
>>To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Subject:	RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
>>
>>Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries
>>(either
>>SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for the report
>>in
>>the OnOpen event of the report.
>>
>>In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values form
>>the
>>calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable to the query
>>name or actually set the recordsource.
>>
>>Bobby
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
>>
>>
>>
>>Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various versions
>>of
>>the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then bind the report to
>>a
>>copy of one of the queries. You could name the query copy
>>"FinalOutPut_qry",
>>or whatever.
>>
>>Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code will
>>check which version of the query is needed and then use...
>>
>>DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery,
>>"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"
>>
>>i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the
>>'disposable'
>>query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is bound.
>>The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB files.
>>
>>Lambert
>>
>>    
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
>>>Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
>>>To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>>Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
>>>
>>>I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs, 
>>>and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for the 
>>>Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 
>>>reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical 
>>>to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name, 
>>>address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and 
>>>another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries 
>>>and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded 
>>>w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
>>>have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
>>>would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the option 
>>>group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different reports, but 
>>>is there a way to actually create one single report that uses the 
>>>different queries based on this same option choice?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>John W Clark
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 12 20:13:03 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:13:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?
In-Reply-To: <005b01c53f66$f008cd90$6402a8c0@DF2PJY11>
Message-ID: <0IEV0067721NQ2@l-daemon>

Hi Randy:

That is great news! :-)

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall Anthony
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:53 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?

Dear Listers,
This will serve as a partial follow-up to this discussion.  I can
happily report that I am employed full-time as of tomorrow with a local,
large health group.  It manages hospitals and health insurance in the
region.  I will be serving in a dba capacity using Access, SQL, and some
PICK, I think.  In addition, I will be assisting other developers in VB,
ASP, and the proposed changes to the .Net framework, including
developing new apps via .Net and conversion procedures.

I think I am quite fortunate that my plan has payed off.  My last class
was three weeks ago, and I've one exam left.  I am now MCP certified in
SQL2000 programming and administration, and .Net development (web and
VB.Net).  I hope to take the WinServer2003 exam in the next few weeks
(which will give me my MCDBA).  As I have mentioned before, in my area,
as expressed to me by more than a few potential employers, my
certs/formal training definitely gave me the leg up on my peers.  As a
result, my ROI should be paid off in less than 18 months due to the
increase in salary at my new job.

I guess I will be signing off later today, and hopefully, will be
signing on with my new email address in the next day or two.  I can't
see myself going to long without the advice and peerless technical savvy
displayed here.

Thanks, Steve, and everyone!

Randall R. Anthony


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: RE: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?

Randy,

>> Thanks for the encouraging words.  Right now these certs and 50
cents will get me a cup of coffee!! <bg> <<

Hey! You oughta move up to Wisconsin. At least you could get a cup of
coffee AND A REFILL with that 50 cents.

Your story certainly confirms the idea that we're heading for a
credentialized society, eh?

Steve Erbach



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 12 20:32:10 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:32:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920504121102299626d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0IEV009CW2XJ8K@l-daemon>

Hi Bryan and Rocky:

The code behind the image button, on the Archive page has some issue with
FireFox... No idea why and I have search FireFox help for any clues. In the
interim, until a permanent solution can be found, just pressing enter, after
inputting data in the search text box should have the same result.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again

On Apr 13, 2005 1:38 PM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
<bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> Bryan:
> 
> DBA site - the go button didn't go.

OK. IIRC, that points at Drew's archive. I'll let Jim know.

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From erbachs at gmail.com  Tue Apr 12 21:56:48 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:56:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: What are you lot doing now and then?
In-Reply-To: <005b01c53f66$f008cd90$6402a8c0@DF2PJY11>
References: <39cb22f305022207245070111e@mail.gmail.com>
	<005b01c53f66$f008cd90$6402a8c0@DF2PJY11>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30504121956bdd53e4@mail.gmail.com>

Randy,

Fantastic! Chalk one up for the reality of getting the credentials
helps in the job search. Best of luck.

Steve Erbach

On 4/12/05, Randall Anthony <randall.anthony at cox.net> wrote:
> Dear Listers,
> This will serve as a partial follow-up to this discussion.  I can
> happily report that I am employed full-time as of tomorrow with a local,
> large health group.  It manages hospitals and health insurance in the
> region.  I will be serving in a dba capacity using Access, SQL, and some
> PICK, I think.  In addition, I will be assisting other developers in VB,
> ASP, and the proposed changes to the .Net framework, including
> developing new apps via .Net and conversion procedures.
> 
> I think I am quite fortunate that my plan has payed off.  My last class
> was three weeks ago, and I've one exam left.  I am now MCP certified in
> SQL2000 programming and administration, and .Net development (web and
> VB.Net).  I hope to take the WinServer2003 exam in the next few weeks
> (which will give me my MCDBA).  As I have mentioned before, in my area,
> as expressed to me by more than a few potential employers, my
> certs/formal training definitely gave me the leg up on my peers.  As a
> result, my ROI should be paid off in less than 18 months due to the
> increase in salary at my new job.
> 
> I guess I will be signing off later today, and hopefully, will be
> signing on with my new email address in the next day or two.  I can't
> see myself going to long without the advice and peerless technical savvy
> displayed here.
> 
> Thanks, Steve, and everyone!
> 
> Randall R. Anthony
> 
>


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Apr 13 23:25:58 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:25:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
References: <0IEV009CW2XJ8K@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <011901c540aa$0f08cc60$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

BTW, I downloaded Intellimouse 4.1.2 (or whatever the name of the product 
was) and installed it and that solved the problem.  FYI.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> Hi Bryan and Rocky:
>
> The code behind the image button, on the Archive page has some issue with
> FireFox... No idea why and I have search FireFox help for any clues. In 
> the
> interim, until a permanent solution can be found, just pressing enter, 
> after
> inputting data in the search text box should have the same result.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan 
> Carbonnell
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:03 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
> On Apr 13, 2005 1:38 PM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>> Bryan:
>>
>> DBA site - the go button didn't go.
>
> OK. IIRC, that points at Drew's archive. I'll let Jim know.
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 12 23:41:58 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:41:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
In-Reply-To: <3rr3lu$pcibev@mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <0IEV0090IBPYHW@l-daemon>

Hi All:

Just received this in the mail. Is this something new or has it been known
for a while?

http://www.betanews.com/article/MS_Database_Engine_Flaw_Discovered/111332623
0

(Watch for wrap.)

Jim



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 13 00:31:47 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:31:47 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
In-Reply-To: <0IEV0090IBPYHW@l-daemon>
References: <3rr3lu$pcibev@mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <425D3B63.4314.2052214E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Apr 2005 at 21:41, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi All:
> 
> Just received this in the mail. Is this something new or has it been known
> for a while?
> 
> http://www.betanews.com/article/MS_Database_Engine_Flaw_Discovered/111332623
> 0
> 

Don't know the details, but it says:

"The vulnerability is caused due to a memory handling error when e.g. 
parsing database files. This can be exploited to execute arbitrary code by 
tricking a user into opening a specially crafted ".mdb" file in Microsoft 
Access."

What's the difference between this and tricking a user into opening a 
".mdb" file which contains an autoexec macro that calls a function that can 
do any sort of dirty work you want?

You can achieve exactly the same thing without using any "flaws".






-- 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 13 03:01:05 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:01:05 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D
Message-ID: <s25cedf5.084@cactus.dk>

Hi Donald

Oh my, does that link have a comprehensive explanation!
Awesome. Thanks a lot!

/gustav

>>> donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com 04/12 10:20 pm >>>
Hi Gustav

Have a look here:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=1337 



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:43 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] OT: 1337 D00D


Hi all

What is 1337 D00D supposed to mean? Except for the decimal/hexadecimal
expression.

Not much Access in this, I guess, but this group knows everything ...

/gustav



From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Wed Apr 13 05:34:07 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:34:07 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
Message-ID: <23081209.1113388447498.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

To all,

I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing JobNo, StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an Excel spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields together

strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf & PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole

and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to put the data in the specific cell.  

The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel view.

Thanks in advance for all your help..

Paul Hartland

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 05:52:25 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:52:25 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A0E@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I believe I explained myself poorly...

The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.

But thats the problem...
If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get Monday
as the first day.
If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display
Sunday as the first day.
Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday Contant).

So probably the only soluation is to check which version of
calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2
according to the access version.

Or not using the calendar control :-(

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

A clue is here:

  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
-
IT Helps
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 05:57:39 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:57:39 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A0F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


Not sure what you mean with CTRL characters?
But this may help

replace( "123crLfabc","crLf", vblf)

OF course you need to create a function to replace all CTRL
charachters....

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:34 PM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code

To all,

I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing
JobNo, StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an
Excel spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields
together

strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf &
PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole

and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to
put the data in the specific cell.  

The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in
Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel
view.

Thanks in advance for all your help..

Paul Hartland

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 13 06:08:48 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:08:48 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <s25d1a05.090@cactus.dk>

Hi Erwin

Looks like a bug to me as vbSunday is 1 in all versions of Access.
But it's a bug of the control not Access, so you should check the
version of the control (or rather the reference to the control), not of
Access.

/gustav


>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 12:52 pm >>>
I believe I explained myself poorly...

The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.

But thats the problem...
If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get
Monday
as the first day.
If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display
Sunday as the first day.
Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday
Contant).

So probably the only soluation is to check which version of
calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2
according to the access version.

Or not using the calendar control :-(

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

A clue is here:

  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the
property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
-
IT Helps
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?



From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Wed Apr 13 06:19:11 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:19:11 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A0F@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAFmDUvMUNmlCpqxZPFfTCxIBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

What I mean by CTRL characters is instead of a carriage return, Excel shows
a small square box.  Sorry for any confusion.. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: 13 April 2005 11:58
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code


Not sure what you mean with CTRL characters?
But this may help

replace( "123crLfabc","crLf", vblf)

OF course you need to create a function to replace all CTRL charachters....

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:34 PM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code

To all,

I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing JobNo,
StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an Excel
spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields together

strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf &
PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole

and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to put
the data in the specific cell.  

The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in
Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel view.

Thanks in advance for all your help..

Paul Hartland

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 06:19:49 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:19:49 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A11@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Yes indeed, but the control is connected to the office version.
You can not use the A2K3 calendar control on a A2K machine, the A2K
calendar control stays.. 

I dont know how to check the calendar control version, but the access
version must be simple.

I'm looking at other controls like the Microsoft Date and Time picker...
Looks nice to.

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

Looks like a bug to me as vbSunday is 1 in all versions of Access.
But it's a bug of the control not Access, so you should check the
version of the control (or rather the reference to the control), not of
Access.

/gustav


>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 12:52 pm >>>
I believe I explained myself poorly...

The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.

But thats the problem...
If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get Monday
as the first day.
If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display
Sunday as the first day.
Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday Contant).

So probably the only soluation is to check which version of
calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2
according to the access version.

Or not using the calendar control :-(

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

A clue is here:

  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
-
IT Helps
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 06:37:54 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:37:54 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A12@stekelbes.ithelps.local>


I believe this is due to some differences between software.

In some application is vbCr (asc code 13) sufficient to start a new
line.
In some you need vbCr & vbLf (asc code 13 and 10)
And in some only vbLf (asc code 10)

In excel for a line feed within a cell you need vbLf (asc 10) 
So you need to the CTRL codes in your fielddata with the appropriate
ones for excel.

You can do this with the replace function as mailed earlier.

For example 
strFieldData = "abcd" & vbcr & "1234"
Cell(1,1) = replace(strFieldData ,vbcr, vblf)

Again, you probably need a function because you will have more than one
control character to replace.

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hartland
(ISHARP)
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code

What I mean by CTRL characters is instead of a carriage return, Excel
shows a small square box.  Sorry for any confusion.. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
IT Helps
Sent: 13 April 2005 11:58
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code


Not sure what you mean with CTRL characters?
But this may help

replace( "123crLfabc","crLf", vblf)

OF course you need to create a function to replace all CTRL
charachters....

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
paul.hartland at fsmail.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:34 PM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code

To all,

I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing
JobNo, StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an
Excel spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields
together

strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf &
PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole

and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to
put the data in the specific cell.  

The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in
Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel
view.

Thanks in advance for all your help..

Paul Hartland

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 06:41:22 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:41:22 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A13@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

One more remark.

Are you sure the square are control charaters?

You also could have an accented character (ASC > 127) that has been
replaced by something else because the font type is not correct for
displaying that character.
In this case you will choose the appropriate fonttype for that cell or
sheet.

Dooing a ASC() on that character will show you this.

 Erwin

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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code

What I mean by CTRL characters is instead of a carriage return, Excel
shows a small square box.  Sorry for any confusion.. 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
IT Helps
Sent: 13 April 2005 11:58
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code


Not sure what you mean with CTRL characters?
But this may help

replace( "123crLfabc","crLf", vblf)

OF course you need to create a function to replace all CTRL
charachters....

 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:34 PM
To: accessd
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code

To all,

I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing
JobNo, StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an
Excel spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields
together

strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf &
PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole

and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to
put the data in the specific cell.  

The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in
Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel
view.

Thanks in advance for all your help..

Paul Hartland

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 13 06:43:50 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:43:50 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <s25d2239.091@cactus.dk>

Hi Erwin

That's the Major and Minor property of the reference you need to read
to get the version.

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 1:19 pm >>>
Yes indeed, but the control is connected to the office version.
You can not use the A2K3 calendar control on a A2K machine, the A2K
calendar control stays.. 

I dont know how to check the calendar control version, but the access
version must be simple.

I'm looking at other controls like the Microsoft Date and Time
picker...
Looks nice to.

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

Looks like a bug to me as vbSunday is 1 in all versions of Access.
But it's a bug of the control not Access, so you should check the
version of the control (or rather the reference to the control), not
of
Access.

/gustav


>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 12:52 pm >>>
I believe I explained myself poorly...

The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.

But thats the problem...
If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get
Monday
as the first day.
If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display
Sunday as the first day.
Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday
Contant).

So probably the only soluation is to check which version of
calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2
according to the access version.

Or not using the calendar control :-(

Erwin
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

A clue is here:

  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the
property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
-
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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?



From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 06:46:58 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:46:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A14@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I'm not entirely correct with this.

When having both access versions on a computer you can use the calendar
control of A2K3 in A2K....
Thats why I never noticed it when runing it on my computer in A2K when
testing.

 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Yes indeed, but the control is connected to the office version.
You can not use the A2K3 calendar control on a A2K machine, the A2K
calendar control stays.. 

I dont know how to check the calendar control version, but the access
version must be simple.

I'm looking at other controls like the Microsoft Date and Time picker...
Looks nice to.

Erwin


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

Looks like a bug to me as vbSunday is 1 in all versions of Access.
But it's a bug of the control not Access, so you should check the
version of the control (or rather the reference to the control), not of
Access.

/gustav


>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 12:52 pm >>>
I believe I explained myself poorly...

The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.

But thats the problem...
If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get Monday
as the first day.
If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display
Sunday as the first day.
Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday Contant).

So probably the only soluation is to check which version of
calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2
according to the access version.

Or not using the calendar control :-(

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

A clue is here:

  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 06:49:34 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:49:34 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A15@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Ah ok, I need to read my references.

I was hoping there was a version property on the control itself.... 
But that would be to easy...



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:44 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

That's the Major and Minor property of the reference you need to read to
get the version.

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 1:19 pm >>>
Yes indeed, but the control is connected to the office version.
You can not use the A2K3 calendar control on a A2K machine, the A2K
calendar control stays.. 

I dont know how to check the calendar control version, but the access
version must be simple.

I'm looking at other controls like the Microsoft Date and Time picker...
Looks nice to.

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:09 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

Looks like a bug to me as vbSunday is 1 in all versions of Access.
But it's a bug of the control not Access, so you should check the
version of the control (or rather the reference to the control), not of
Access.

/gustav


>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 12:52 pm >>>
I believe I explained myself poorly...

The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.

But thats the problem...
If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get Monday
as the first day.
If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display
Sunday as the first day.
Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday Contant).

So probably the only soluation is to check which version of
calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2
according to the access version.

Or not using the calendar control :-(

Erwin
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control

Hi Erwin

A clue is here:

  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
Ok, this seems like a bug to me.

The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the property
.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)

Fun fun fun

Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?

Erwin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
-
IT Helps
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control

Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
 
When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
the dates are so small they look like a dot.
It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
 
So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
firstday to vbMonday.
Should be right?
 
No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
tuesday!!!
I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 13 06:56:56 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:56:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <3rr3lu$pcibev@mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <20050413115658.UGJH2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Wow...thank you. ;) 

What are you doing right now -- Access-wise. 

Susan H. 

Susan, thank you...but, you had no way of knowing...and your books (several
of them, actually) have helped me survive all the worst of it. I'm a major
fan. Thank you again...




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 13 06:56:56 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:56:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
In-Reply-To: <425C6E2E.9080807@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <20050413115705.UGLF2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I've not paid attention to this thread, but thought I'd chime in here with a
simple solution -- but it may not be adequate. OpenReport's openargs method
is a good way to pass criteria or really any value to a report. 

Susan H. 

It's tough to pass parms into a report in any intelligent way. I suggest
instead that you use static functions to set the values your report
requires.

(A static function is one that remembers its value from call to call. 
Typically a static function is called in two ways -- one to set it and one
to get itl This will become apparent below.)

Here is a template static function to use and modify to suit your needs.

<code>
Static Function CurrentX(Optional lngNew As Long) As Long 'Copy this
template each time you need a new set/get function 'Then Replace "X" with
the name of your object, i.e.,"Employee"
'Replace all in current proc and you're done.

    Dim lngCurrent As Long
    If lngNew <> 0 Then lngCurrent = lngNew
    CurrentX = lngCurrent
    #If conDebug = 1 Then
        Debug.Print "Current X: ", CurrentX
    #End If
End Function
</code>

You call such a function in two ways:
Set: CurrentX( 123 )     ' sets the value of CurrentX
CurrentX()                    ' gets the current value of CurrentX

Thus you set the function before running your report and then either tie the
value of CurrentX() to a control or include it in your query, then set the
control to said value. Doesn't matter which you do. This way you obviate all
the hassles.

HTH,
Arthur

Heenan, Lambert wrote:

>That is indeed an alternative approach. The difference is that the 
>report needs to figure out which query to use (by reading parameters 
>from a form
>probably) rather than the calling code which opens the form determining 
>which query to use.
>
>Lambert
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
>>Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 1:56 PM
>>To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>Subject:	RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
>>
>>Lambert had a neat idea.  What I do is to have the different queries 
>>(either SQL text or actual queries).  I then set the recordsource for 
>>the report in the OnOpen event of the report.
>>
>>In your case, I would have a select statement that gets it's values 
>>form the calling form.  The select statement would then set a variable 
>>to the query name or actually set the recordsource.
>>
>>Bobby
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, 
>>Lambert
>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:39 PM
>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John Clark'
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] One report using alternate sources
>>
>>
>>
>>Sure can.  Design you single, master report, and all the various 
>>versions of the query needed to select the subsets of results. Then 
>>bind the report to a copy of one of the queries. You could name the 
>>query copy "FinalOutPut_qry", or whatever.
>>
>>Then, when you want to run any one version of the report, your code 
>>will check which version of the query is needed and then use...
>>
>>DoCmd.CopyObject ,"FinalOutput_qry",acQuery, 
>>"NameOfTheQueryThatSelectsWhatYouWant"
>>
>>i.e. you copy the query that select the records you need to the 
>>'disposable'
>>query named ,"FinalOutput_qry", or whatever, to which the report is bound.
>>The nice thing about this is that it works for MDE as well as MDB files.
>>
>>Lambert
>>
>>    
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>[SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
>>>Sent:	Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
>>>To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>>Subject:	[AccessD] One report using alternate sources
>>>
>>>I've got this program (A2K) that tracks many of the various programs, 
>>>and subsequent "sub-programs," that are provided by our Office for 
>>>the Aging department. I have recently been asked to add about 8 or 9 
>>>reports to the program. The reports for these programs are identical 
>>>to one another except for a single criteria (i.e. they all have name, 
>>>address, age, etc., but one may be specifically for "prog A" and 
>>>another "prog B"). I went ahead and whipped up 9 very similar queries 
>>>and it occurred to me, because the form is starting to get crowded 
>>>w/buttons, that there may be a way to put these together somehow. I 
>>>have created an option group, which lists the programs, but now I 
>>>would like to click on a button that runs a report based on the 
>>>option group choice. I know I can do this, by calling different 
>>>reports, but is there a way to actually create one single report that 
>>>uses the different queries based on this same option choice?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>John W Clark
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 13 07:11:11 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:11:11 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <s25d288d.092@cactus.dk>

Hi Erwin

That may be the case; I would check that first.

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 1:49 pm >>>

I was hoping there was a version property on the control itself.... 
But that would be to easy...



From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 13 08:31:35 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:31:35 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Fixed header names in crosstab query
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A16@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

When using a crosstab query the colomnheaders get the name of a specific
data in a field.
When there is no data for a specific column the column is not displayd.
IF you know that the number of columnrecords is fixed, like days for
example 1 to 31, you can add 1...31 in the column text of the
columnheader property.
As a result there are always 1 tot 31 headers (fields) even if no data
is present.
 
 
But Now I'm in the situation that I have activity codes in the columns,
which are in a sub table.
How can I still do this trick but based on data in a table? Can I do
some kind of SQL insert into this columnname property?
 
I know theres a limitation of 255 fields in an crosstab query, but this
is not an issue..
 

 

Erwin Craps

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Thu Apr 14 10:19:39 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:19:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
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Paul:

Shot in the dark: try replacing the vbCrLf with either Chr(10) or Chr(13).

HTH

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To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:19 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code


> What I mean by CTRL characters is instead of a carriage return, Excel 
> shows
> a small square box.  Sorry for any confusion..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - 
> IT
> Helps
> Sent: 13 April 2005 11:58
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
>
>
> Not sure what you mean with CTRL characters?
> But this may help
>
> replace( "123crLfabc","crLf", vblf)
>
> OF course you need to create a function to replace all CTRL 
> charachters....
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> paul.hartland at fsmail.net
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:34 PM
> To: accessd
> Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
>
> To all,
>
> I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing 
> JobNo,
> StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an Excel
> spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields together
>
> strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf &
> PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole
>
> and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to put
> the data in the specific cell.
>
> The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in
> Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel view.
>
> Thanks in advance for all your help..
>
> Paul Hartland
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Apr 13 10:20:36 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:20:36 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT...Tuscon, AZ Lunch Anyone...
In-Reply-To: <aea6c495050407120552f7712@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F230F6B928C9C845CA072E4D2340@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

I had to go to Tucson on very short notice...I'll be here till Thursday 
evening...then in Phoenix until Friday evening.

I haven't had the chance to see any listers in person since Rocky's house a 
couple years ago.  If anyone would like to meet for Coffee, lunch, or "cool 
refreshing adult beverages"...let me know.  My cell is listed below.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte
336/253-5270




From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Wed Apr 13 10:31:04 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:31:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
In-Reply-To: <00f501c54105$607cf110$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAF3Pb1nYNedFtcSbGg4NdKUBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

It's Chr(10) thanks, works like a charm now....

Thanks to everyone for all the help....

Paul 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: 14 April 2005 16:20
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code

Paul:

Shot in the dark: try replacing the vbCrLf with either Chr(10) or Chr(13).

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:19 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code


> What I mean by CTRL characters is instead of a carriage return, Excel 
> shows
> a small square box.  Sorry for any confusion..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - 
> IT
> Helps
> Sent: 13 April 2005 11:58
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
>
>
> Not sure what you mean with CTRL characters?
> But this may help
>
> replace( "123crLfabc","crLf", vblf)
>
> OF course you need to create a function to replace all CTRL 
> charachters....
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> paul.hartland at fsmail.net
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:34 PM
> To: accessd
> Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
>
> To all,
>
> I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing 
> JobNo,
> StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an Excel
> spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields together
>
> strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf &
> PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole
>
> and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to put
> the data in the specific cell.
>
> The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in
> Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel view.
>
> Thanks in advance for all your help..
>
> Paul Hartland
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Apr 13 10:35:45 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:35:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374FB@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Chr(10) might work
Within Excel to break a line within a cell you hit <alt><enter>
I just recorded a macro while doing this and here is the resulting code:
ActiveCell.FormulaR1C1 = "test" & Chr(10) & " line " & Chr(10) & "break"
which produced a cell formatted as

test
line
break

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code


Paul:

Shot in the dark: try replacing the vbCrLf with either Chr(10) or Chr(13).

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Hartland (ISHARP)" <paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:19 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code


> What I mean by CTRL characters is instead of a carriage return, Excel 
> shows
> a small square box.  Sorry for any confusion..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - 
> IT
> Helps
> Sent: 13 April 2005 11:58
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
>
>
> Not sure what you mean with CTRL characters?
> But this may help
>
> replace( "123crLfabc","crLf", vblf)
>
> OF course you need to create a function to replace all CTRL 
> charachters....
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> paul.hartland at fsmail.net
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:34 PM
> To: accessd
> Subject: [AccessD] Writing To Excel From Access Code
>
> To all,
>
> I have an access database which grabs a certain recordset containing 
> JobNo,
> StartTime, PrintAddress and EmployeeRole and writes out to an Excel
> spreadsheet.  I am using the following code to put the fields together
>
> strDayWork = JobNo &  "                      " & StartTime & vbcrlf &
> PrintAddress & vbcrlf & EmployeeRole
>
> and uses the command .Cells(intExcelRow, intExcelCol) = strDayWork to put
> the data in the specific cell.
>
> The problem is the CTRL characters for the return code also show up in
> Excel, does anyone know a way of how to remove these from the Excel view.
>
> Thanks in advance for all your help..
>
> Paul Hartland
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 13 10:49:25 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:49:25 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Fixed header names in crosstab query
Message-ID: <s25d5bc4.098@cactus.dk>

Hi Erwin

You will have to either build the complete SQL in code or modify the
SQL property of an existing query to create the "IN (...)" clause you
need.
I have found no other method.

/gustav

>>> Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 3:31 pm >>>
When using a crosstab query the colomnheaders get the name of a
specific
data in a field.
When there is no data for a specific column the column is not
displayd.
IF you know that the number of columnrecords is fixed, like days for
example 1 to 31, you can add 1...31 in the column text of the
columnheader property.
As a result there are always 1 tot 31 headers (fields) even if no data
is present.
 
 
But Now I'm in the situation that I have activity codes in the
columns,
which are in a sub table.
How can I still do this trick but based on data in a table? Can I do
some kind of SQL insert into this columnname property?



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Apr 13 12:54:58 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:54:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access report
Message-ID: <017001c54051$e85a2e40$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

I would like to insert a table of contents into a rather lengthy report which can vary in its content.

The content is actually printed in two subreports.

Is there some way to know what page a detail record is on so that a table of contents could be generated and inserted into a report.

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 13 12:59:09 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:59:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
References: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A11@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <425D5DED.5000608@shaw.ca>

How about using Stephen Lebans Calendar control.
It is a wrapper around common control api calls so should be no 
versioning problem
http://www.lebans.com/monthcalendar.htm

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Yes indeed, but the control is connected to the office version.
>You can not use the A2K3 calendar control on a A2K machine, the A2K
>calendar control stays.. 
>
>I dont know how to check the calendar control version, but the access
>version must be simple.
>
>I'm looking at other controls like the Microsoft Date and Time picker...
>Looks nice to.
>
>Erwin
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:09 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control
>
>Hi Erwin
>
>Looks like a bug to me as vbSunday is 1 in all versions of Access.
>But it's a bug of the control not Access, so you should check the
>version of the control (or rather the reference to the control), not of
>Access.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
>>>>Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 12:52 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>I believe I explained myself poorly...
>
>The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
>The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
>So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.
>
>But thats the problem...
>If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get Monday
>as the first day.
>If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display
>Sunday as the first day.
>Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday Contant).
>
>So probably the only soluation is to check which version of
>calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2
>according to the access version.
>
>Or not using the calendar control :-(
>
>Erwin
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control
>
>Hi Erwin
>
>A clue is here:
>
>  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html 
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>Ok, this seems like a bug to me.
>
>The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3
>calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the property
>.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)
>
>Fun fun fun
>
>Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?
>
>Erwin
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
>-
>IT Helps
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
>
>Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
> 
>When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
>When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and
>the dates are so small they look like a dot.
>It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
> 
>So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my
>firstday to vbMonday.
>Should be right?
> 
>No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is
>tuesday!!!
>I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 13 13:04:04 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:04:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
References: <3rr3lu$pcibev@mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net>
	<425D3B63.4314.2052214E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <425D5F14.2040008@shaw.ca>

Well I suppose you could have Access 2003 set with macro security set to 
high.
Which might protect against autoexec execution. I don't know if it stops 
intrinsic autoexec execution haven't tried it.

Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>On 12 Apr 2005 at 21:41, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi All:
>>
>>Just received this in the mail. Is this something new or has it been known
>>for a while?
>>
>>http://www.betanews.com/article/MS_Database_Engine_Flaw_Discovered/111332623
>>0
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Don't know the details, but it says:
>
>"The vulnerability is caused due to a memory handling error when e.g. 
>parsing database files. This can be exploited to execute arbitrary code by 
>tricking a user into opening a specially crafted ".mdb" file in Microsoft 
>Access."
>
>What's the difference between this and tricking a user into opening a 
>".mdb" file which contains an autoexec macro that calls a function that can 
>do any sort of dirty work you want?
>
>You can achieve exactly the same thing without using any "flaws".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>

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Canada





From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Apr 13 13:06:09 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:06:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access report
In-Reply-To: <017001c54051$e85a2e40$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNEEKADHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Rocky,

  You need to force 2 pass mode, then save the descriptions and pages to a
table on the first pass.  See the following MSKB article:

ACC2000: How to Create a Table of Contents or Index for a Report
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=210269

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:55 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access
report


Dear List:

I would like to insert a table of contents into a rather lengthy report
which can vary in its content.

The content is actually printed in two subreports.

Is there some way to know what page a detail record is on so that a table of
contents could be generated and inserted into a report.

MTIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Wed Apr 13 13:20:36 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:20:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access report
References: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNEEKADHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <018901c54055$7d9f0ae0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Jim:

Thank you.  That looks promising.  However, it says:

" When you preview the report, page through all of the pages of the report 
to make sure that the Print event is triggered for all records. "

which is not practical.  That's OK if I'm running it myself but not for an 
end user.

And I don't want to print it twice.  The page number is tracked in a counter 
that gets incremented in the page footer event.  So until the report is 
printed once there's no way to know what page a given record is on.

Is there a way to print without actually printing?

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

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From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at earthlink.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access 
report


> Rocky,
>
>  You need to force 2 pass mode, then save the descriptions and pages to a
> table on the first pass.  See the following MSKB article:
>
> ACC2000: How to Create a Table of Contents or Index for a Report
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=210269
>
> Jim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:55 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access
> report
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I would like to insert a table of contents into a rather lengthy report
> which can vary in its content.
>
> The content is actually printed in two subreports.
>
> Is there some way to know what page a detail record is on so that a table 
> of
> contents could be generated and inserted into a report.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Apr 13 13:20:28 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:20:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43013BD226@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Does anyone know why I do not have the option under macros to set the
security in my Access 2003?  Is this in installation choice that was not
installed by my IT department?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database


Well I suppose you could have Access 2003 set with macro security set to

high.
Which might protect against autoexec execution. I don't know if it stops

intrinsic autoexec execution haven't tried it.

Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>On 12 Apr 2005 at 21:41, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi All:
>>
>>Just received this in the mail. Is this something new or has it been
known
>>for a while?
>>
>>http://www.betanews.com/article/MS_Database_Engine_Flaw_Discovered/111
332623
>>0
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Don't know the details, but it says:
>
>"The vulnerability is caused due to a memory handling error when e.g. 
>parsing database files. This can be exploited to execute arbitrary code
by 
>tricking a user into opening a specially crafted ".mdb" file in
Microsoft 
>Access."
>
>What's the difference between this and tricking a user into opening a 
>".mdb" file which contains an autoexec macro that calls a function that
can 
>do any sort of dirty work you want?
>
>You can achieve exactly the same thing without using any "flaws".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>

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Canada



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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Apr 13 13:42:58 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:42:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] add numbers
References: <425CD11F.11283.1EB30889@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <004e01c5405c$f1782940$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello Stuart,

that did the trick.
Thanks for the help.

Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] add numbers


> On 12 Apr 2005 at 22:51, Pedro Janssen wrote:
>
> > Hello Stuart,
> >
> > thanks for your help. The function works perfect.But i forgot to tell
that
> > in the field [Para], also "normal" values are present like from 1 to 9.
When
> > using the function i get an error.on the: While InStr..... I tried to
adjust
> > the code, with no result.
> >
>
> Me bad, I didn't check for the end of the string in the While Loop.
> Try this one instead (watch for line wrap)
>
> Function Addnumbers(InputString As String) As Double
>    Dim lngStore As Double
>    Dim lngLoopcount As Double
>    lngLoopcount = 0
>    Do
>      lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
>          lngStore = lngStore + Val(Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount))
>          'move past current number
>          While InStr("0123456789+-", Mid$(InputString, lngLoopcount, 1)) >
0  And lngLoopcount <= Len(InputString)
>              lngLoopcount = lngLoopcount + 1
>          Wend
>    Loop Until lngLoopcount >= Len(InputString)
>    Addnumbers = lngStore
> End Function--
> Stuart
>
>
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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Apr 13 13:48:04 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:48:04 +0200
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT: Finally
	MadeIt - Thanks)
References: <20050407211735.B04C740016@omta16.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <004f01c5405c$f1f87cd0$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hi Mark,

i joined the group ( i think) in 1999.
It has been many times a real  oracle and time saver.


Pedro Janssen



> Mark A Matte asked:
> > This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the 
> > website of all list members...It would be interesting to see 
> > how long people have actually been using Accessd.  I've used 
> > this group religiously since 1999.
> 
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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Apr 13 13:53:21 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:53:21 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
Message-ID: <005001c5405c$f31c6360$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello groep,

i have a field that containes codes like:

6.10.3.3 0
5.04.2.4 #0
6.12.3.3 #1
4.07.1.1 1

i need to add a value (.x, after the last number, before the space.

an example:

fieldA                     fieldB
6.10.3.3 0             16
5.04.2.4 #0           8


as result i would like:

fieldC
6.10.3.3.16 0
5.04.2.4.8 #0

Can this been done?

Pedro Janssen     


From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Wed Apr 13 14:39:20 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:39:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43013BD226@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKAEKBFCAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

Karen, just a shot in the dark, but are you sure the menu item wasn't
hidden, due to lack of use? Try clicking on the double down arrow and the
bottom of the menu list to see if any new items appear.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database


Does anyone know why I do not have the option under macros to set the
security in my Access 2003?  Is this in installation choice that was not
installed by my IT department?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database


Well I suppose you could have Access 2003 set with macro security set to

high.
Which might protect against autoexec execution. I don't know if it stops

intrinsic autoexec execution haven't tried it.

Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>On 12 Apr 2005 at 21:41, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hi All:
>>
>>Just received this in the mail. Is this something new or has it been
known
>>for a while?
>>
>>http://www.betanews.com/article/MS_Database_Engine_Flaw_Discovered/111
332623
>>0
>>
>>
>>
>
>Don't know the details, but it says:
>
>"The vulnerability is caused due to a memory handling error when e.g.
>parsing database files. This can be exploited to execute arbitrary code
by
>tricking a user into opening a specially crafted ".mdb" file in
Microsoft
>Access."
>
>What's the difference between this and tricking a user into opening a
>".mdb" file which contains an autoexec macro that calls a function that
can
>do any sort of dirty work you want?
>
>You can achieve exactly the same thing without using any "flaws".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 13 14:40:52 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:40:52 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
References: <3rr3lu$pcibev@mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net>
	<425D3B63.4314.2052214E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <425D75C4.3070806@shaw.ca>

Here is the details, it requires some assembler knowledge
http://www.hexview.com/docs/20050331-1.txt

Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>On 12 Apr 2005 at 21:41, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi All:
>>
>>Just received this in the mail. Is this something new or has it been known
>>for a while?
>>
>>http://www.betanews.com/article/MS_Database_Engine_Flaw_Discovered/111332623
>>0
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Don't know the details, but it says:
>
>"The vulnerability is caused due to a memory handling error when e.g. 
>parsing database files. This can be exploited to execute arbitrary code by 
>tricking a user into opening a specially crafted ".mdb" file in Microsoft 
>Access."
>
>What's the difference between this and tricking a user into opening a 
>".mdb" file which contains an autoexec macro that calls a function that can 
>do any sort of dirty work you want?
>
>You can achieve exactly the same thing without using any "flaws".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Wed Apr 13 14:42:11 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:42:11 -0500
Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
	FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586CACC@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Wow!  That has to be the first time I've seen oracle and time saver in
the same sentence <VBG>.

/list member since early 1998, save for an extended break a few years
ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] OT:
FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)


Hi Mark,

i joined the group ( i think) in 1999.
It has been many times a real  oracle and time saver.


Pedro Janssen

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 13 14:30:19 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:30:19 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E43013BD226@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <425D734B.7060206@shaw.ca>

 Your network guy could have changed the following registry settings of the
following key, it should help you change the security level of the macro 
in Access 2003. He should be able to change this globally across the 
network for each client PC, there is even a way to do this from Access 
VBA code using WMI with proper network permissions.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Access\Security\Level

If the value is 1, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to low.
If the value is 2, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to medium.
If the value is 3, then the macro security of Access 2003 is set to high.

Nicholson, Karen wrote:

>Does anyone know why I do not have the option under macros to set the
>security in my Access 2003?  Is this in installation choice that was not
>installed by my IT department?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:04 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Security error in the MDB database
>
>
>Well I suppose you could have Access 2003 set with macro security set to
>
>high.
>Which might protect against autoexec execution. I don't know if it stops
>
>intrinsic autoexec execution haven't tried it.
>
>Stuart McLachlan wrote:
>
>  
>
>>On 12 Apr 2005 at 21:41, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi All:
>>>
>>>Just received this in the mail. Is this something new or has it been
>>>      
>>>
>known
>  
>
>>>for a while?
>>>
>>>http://www.betanews.com/article/MS_Database_Engine_Flaw_Discovered/111
>>>      
>>>
>332623
>  
>
>>>0
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Don't know the details, but it says:
>>
>>"The vulnerability is caused due to a memory handling error when e.g. 
>>parsing database files. This can be exploited to execute arbitrary code
>>    
>>
>by 
>  
>
>>tricking a user into opening a specially crafted ".mdb" file in
>>    
>>
>Microsoft 
>  
>
>>Access."
>>
>>What's the difference between this and tricking a user into opening a 
>>".mdb" file which contains an autoexec macro that calls a function that
>>    
>>
>can 
>  
>
>>do any sort of dirty work you want?
>>
>>You can achieve exactly the same thing without using any "flaws".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From nd500_lo at charter.net  Wed Apr 13 21:29:50 2005
From: nd500_lo at charter.net (Dian)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:29:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <20050413115658.UGJH2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <3rr9ri$ueut0o@mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net>

Wow....what am I doing now...in this group, feel like I should come up with
something brilliant...but, I can't. I do volunteer work to help women in a
shelter prepare for a better life, I'm helping a friend write a curriculum
to teach kids how to use the MS Office (including Access) suite...and I
maintain my 'baby dbs'...when someone asks for help. I am retired and a bit
lazy...I basically do what I want to do. Oh, and reading the messages in
here is the first thing I do when I have a chance...

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 

Wow...thank you. ;) 

What are you doing right now -- Access-wise. 

Susan H. 

Susan, thank you...but, you had no way of knowing...and your books (several
of them, actually) have helped me survive all the worst of it. I'm a major
fan. Thank you again...


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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Wed Apr 13 23:37:42 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:07:42 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
References: <005001c5405c$f31c6360$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <009f01c540ab$d08f3a80$501865cb@winxp>

Pedro,

    Select query given below should get you the desired results. A and B are the names of two fields in table named T_Nums. C is the name of calculated field generated by the query, inserting the contents of B into A in the manner specified by you.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

==================================
SELECT A, B, Replace(A," ","." & B & " ") AS C
FROM T_Nums;
==================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pedro Janssen 
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 00:23
  Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between


  Hello groep,

  i have a field that containes codes like:

  6.10.3.3 0
  5.04.2.4 #0
  6.12.3.3 #1
  4.07.1.1 1

  i need to add a value (.x, after the last number, before the space.

  an example:

  fieldA                     fieldB
  6.10.3.3 0             16
  5.04.2.4 #0           8


  as result i would like:

  fieldC
  6.10.3.3.16 0
  5.04.2.4.8 #0

  Can this been done?

  Pedro Janssen     


From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Wed Apr 13 23:43:03 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:43:03 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] SQL to Change a field value based on an input
Message-ID: <OFD0FEC623.9F4836E2-ONCA256FE3.0019A2D4@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Hi All,

I am trying to write a quick update which will change athe status field in
my DB to 1, and the status date to today if a date criteris is met. here is
my SQL

UPDATE tblDAuthorityRenewal SET tblDAuthorityRenewal.Status = 1,
tblDAuthorityRenewal.StatusDate = Date()
WHERE (((tblDAuthorityRenewal.EndDate)=#11/1/2003#));

except I am passing a parameter into the last bit (of course)

If I run this SQL either directkly or in my form the date changes to today
but the status doesn't change ...

Yours in confusion
Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange




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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Wed Apr 13 23:54:44 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:54:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Word closes before it shows the user the document
Message-ID: <OF74313350.F855F73B-ONCA256FE3.001ACB70@agric.nsw.gov.au>

Thanks Guys I got it to work by adapting a little of each comment. the key 
was partly in not releasing but also tweaking the rest .... have a mumbled 
lately about working with stuff other programmers have written before you 
LOL

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries 
Orange

Try not releasing the object maybe

mark

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: 09 April 2005 18:34
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Word closes before it shows the user the document


Just maybe this is it, part way through your code you suddenly

    Set objWord = Nothing 


                objWord.Activate    ' Activates Word
                objWord.Visible = True    ' Show Word to the user.
                objWord.WindowState = wdWindowStateMaximize
                Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.



connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Now trying to fix a 2nd database which is not working, written in 
>Access97. Problem is there is a Form letter function (code below) when 
>I call this function it opens word but no document appears in the 
>window. The popup to ask if it printed OK appears but the document is 
>not visible to the user and no printing occurs. If I comment out the 
>line '.Documents(strMainDocument).Close SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges

>I get a program monitor error but the document is visible.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Connie Kamrowski
>
>Analyst/Programmer
>Information Technology
>NSW Department of Primary Industries
>Orange
>
>
>Public Sub Export_Word()
>Dim rsA0001 As Recordset
>
>Dim objWord As Word.Application
>Dim strMainDocument As String
>
>Dim dbExportWord As Database
>Dim rsExportWord As Recordset
>Dim booPrintBackground As Boolean
>
>
>gfLetterPrintedOK = False 'Value will be set to true if the user 
>verifies that the letter printed
>
>' Resume to the next line following the error.
>On Error Resume Next
>
>' Attempt to reference Word which is already running.
>Set objWord = GetObject(, "Word.Application")
>If Err = 429 Then
>    Set objWord = New Word.Application
>    Err = 0
>End If
>
>
>' If true, Word is not running.
>If objWord Is Nothing Then
>        ' Create a new instance of the Word application.
>        Set objWord = New Word.Application
>        ' If true, MS Word is not installed.
>        If objWord Is Nothing Then
>                MsgBox "MS Word is not installed on your computer"
>                GoTo ExitRoutine
>        End If 'objWord Is Nothing
>End If 'objWord Is Nothing
>
>'Check to Ensure the temporary RTF file has been deleted, if not,
Delete it
>    gstrWordDirectory = Dir$(strTempRTFFile, vbNormal)
>        If gstrWordDirectory <> "" Then
>                On Error GoTo Failure 'Displays 'File Access Error 
>(#71) if a form letter is already open
>                    Kill strTempRTFFile
>                On Error Resume Next
>        End If 'gstrWordDirectory <> ""
>
>    If gstrAccessWordQuery = "" Then
>                    'Print Blank Form
>                        objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate)
>                Else
>                    DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputQuery, gstrAccessWordQuery,
_
>                        acFormatRTF, strTempRTFFile, False
>                    objWord.Documents.Add (gstrTemplate) 'Template 
>document '*.dot'
>                    strMainDocument = objWord.ActiveDocument.Name 'Sets

>the name of the 'Main Document' (template document)
>                    'so that it can be closed later
>
>                    With objWord.ActiveDocument.MailMerge
>                        .SuppressBlankLines = True
>                        .ViewMailMergeFieldCodes = False
>                        .Destination = wdSendToNewDocument
>                        .Execute
>                    End With
>
>                    With objWord 'Close Main Document
>                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Activate
>                        .Documents(strMainDocument).Close 
>SaveChanges:=wdDoNotSaveChanges
>                           ' Store background printing option.
>
>
>
>                     End With
>
>                objWord.Activate    ' Activates Word
>                objWord.Visible = True    ' Show Word to the user.
>                objWord.WindowState = wdWindowStateMaximize
>                Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.
>
>            On Error GoTo Failure
>
>                If MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?", vbYesNo, 
>"Form Letters") = vbYes Then
>
>                        gfLetterPrintedOK = True
>                        Set dbExportWord = CurrentDb()
>                        Set rsExportWord = 
>dbExportWord.OpenRecordset("tblLettersSent", dbOpenDynaset, 
>dbFailOnError)
>
>                        With rsExportWord
>                            .AddNew
>                                !LTRLPBNumber = gstrRLPBNumber
>                                !LTPropertyID = glngMainPropertyID
>                                !LTFormLetterID = gstrFormLetterID
>                                !LTComment = gstrFormLetterComment
>                                !LTDatePrinted = Date
>                                !LTTimePrinted = Time
>                            .Update
>                        End With
>
>                        Select Case getgstrFormLetterID()
>                            Case "A0001"
>                                dbExportWord.Execute "A000104", 
>dbFailOnError
>
>                        End Select
>                End If 'MsgBox("Did your letter print correctly?"...
>      End If 'gstrAccessWordQuery = ""
>
>
>ExitRoutine:
>    On Error Resume Next
>        rsExportWord.Close
>        Set rsExportWord = Nothing
>        dbExportWord.Close
>        Set dbExportWord = Nothing
>        rsA0001.Close
>        Set rsA0001 = Nothing
>        Set objWord = Nothing    ' Release the object variable.
>    Exit Sub
>
>Failure:
>        Call ErrorHandler(strProcedureName:="Export_Word",
>lngErrorNumber:=Err.Number, _
>            strErrorDescription:=Err.Description, _
>            strErrorSource:=Err.Source)
>        Resume ExitRoutine
>
> End Sub
>
>
>
>
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>

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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Wed Apr 13 23:57:01 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:57:01 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
Message-ID: <OF178D69D5.10C6AB4C-ONCA256FE3.001AF1E5@agric.nsw.gov.au>


I was handed the address on my first day in my new job ... almost 2 years
ago ... my supervisor said here you go.. these guys have done it all ....

And he was right ... Thanks so much for all your help. You have saved my
sanity more than once

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange


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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Apr 14 00:31:08 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:01:08 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899F26@infoserver01.infostat.lo
	cal> <015301c53f76$b7c44030$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <00f801c540b3$3c82dce0$501865cb@winxp>

Rocky,

    Under certain situations, the following set of commands are known to disturb page numbering.
    MoveLayout
    NextRecord
    PrintSection
    ForceNewPage

    You have confirmed that ForceNewPage is not being used in your report. You might now like to scrutinize the other three, wherever occurring. (As a test, if you disable these commands, your page numbering should revert to normal).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 21:15
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering


  Charlotte:

  No page breaks.  Three sub-reports in the detail section.

  I have the following events :

  Private Sub Detail_Format
  Private Sub Detail_Print
  Private Sub GroupFooter0_Print
  Private Sub Report_NoData
  Private Sub Report_Open
  Private Sub ReportFooter_Format
  Private Sub ReportHeader_Format

  The format events mostly stick things into text boxes.  I do have :

      Me.MoveLayout = False
      Me.NextRecord = True
      Me.PrintSection = False
      Exit Sub

  in a couple of places which get triggered on certain conditions.

  Any clues there?

  Thanks and Regards,

  Rocky Smolin
  Beach Access Software
  http://www.e-z-mrp.com
  858-259-4334

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:25 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering


  > Does it actually print two pages or just one?  I have seen this, but it
  > has been caused by several different things, so you need to fill in the
  > blanks for us.  Do you have any physical page break in the report? Do
  > you have any formatting that breaks before or after a section?
  >
  > Charlotte Foust
  >
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
  > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:12 PM
  > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  > Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
  >
  >
  > Dear List:
  >
  > I have a one page report and at the bottom it prints Page 1 of 2.  I'm
  > using the standard ="Page " & [Page] & " of " & [Pages] to print the
  > page numbers which was actually generated by the Access report wiz.
  >
  > This has never failed before.
  >
  > Has anyone seen anything like this?
  >
  > MTIA
  >
  > Rocky Smolin
  > Beach Access Software
  > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
  > 858-259-4334


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Apr 14 01:56:48 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:56:48 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A18@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

I take a look at it. I see it based on the common controls library wich
contains the date/time picker from ms.

I only see that it base on a click-a-control principle while a need a
fix month view on the main form.
But I will check it out.

thx

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 7:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Calendar control

How about using Stephen Lebans Calendar control.
It is a wrapper around common control api calls so should be no
versioning problem http://www.lebans.com/monthcalendar.htm

Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

>Yes indeed, but the control is connected to the office version.
>You can not use the A2K3 calendar control on a A2K machine, the A2K 
>calendar control stays..
>
>I dont know how to check the calendar control version, but the access 
>version must be simple.
>
>I'm looking at other controls like the Microsoft Date and Time
picker...
>Looks nice to.
>
>Erwin
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:09 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control
>
>Hi Erwin
>
>Looks like a bug to me as vbSunday is 1 in all versions of Access.
>But it's a bug of the control not Access, so you should check the 
>version of the control (or rather the reference to the control), not of

>Access.
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>
>>>>Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/13 12:52 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>I believe I explained myself poorly...
>
>The issue is that Calendar control of A2K has 1 (vbSunday) for Sunday.
>The calendar control of A2K3 has 1 (vbSunday) for Monday.
>So the calendar control of A2K3 already use the system local firstday.
>
>But thats the problem...
>If I set the calendarcontrol of A2K3 firstday property to 1 I get 
>Monday as the first day.
>If I move that database to a A2K pc, the calender control will display 
>Sunday as the first day.
>Because In VBA Sunday should always be the first day (vbSunday
Contant).
>
>So probably the only soluation is to check which version of 
>calendarcontrol or Access is running and set the firstday to 1 or 2 
>according to the access version.
>
>Or not using the calendar control :-(
>
>Erwin
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:56 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Calendar control
>
>Hi Erwin
>
>A clue is here:
>
>  http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_set_calendar_first_weekday.html
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be 04/12 5:27 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>Ok, this seems like a bug to me.
>
>The A2K calendar control give for Monday as the firstday, the A2K3 
>calendar control gives Tuesday as the firstday when having the property

>.FirstDay set to vbMonday (2)
>
>Fun fun fun
>
>Anyone knows how I can get the Windows system firstday?
>
>Erwin
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
>-
>IT Helps
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:05 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Calendar control
>
>Is there a bug in the calendar control of MSA2K3?
> 
>When using a MDB file in A2K3 my firstday is monday.
>When using this MDB file on a A2K computer the firstday is sunday and 
>the dates are so small they look like a dot.
>It seems that the font is set to 1.5 instead of 8.25.
> 
>So in an attempt to solve this I VBA code my fonts to 8.25 and my 
>firstday to vbMonday.
>Should be right?
> 
>No way, When looking to my calendarcontrol in MSA2K3 the firstday is 
>tuesday!!!
>I supose it will be good in A2K, but how am I to work around this one?
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 14 03:17:26 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:17:26 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
In-Reply-To: <005001c5405c$f31c6360$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <425EB3B6.3960.F9B1E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 13 Apr 2005 at 20:53, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> fieldA                     fieldB
> 6.10.3.3 0             16
> 5.04.2.4 #0           8
> as result i would like:
> fieldC
> 6.10.3.3.16 0
> 5.04.2.4.8 #0
> 

This should do it:
fieldC: Left$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," ") -1) & "." & fieldB & 
Mid$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," "))







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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 14 08:00:31 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:00:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access report
In-Reply-To: <018901c54055$7d9f0ae0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNCEOEDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Rocky,

<<" When you preview the report, page through all of the pages of the report
to make sure that the Print event is triggered for all records. "

which is not practical.  That's OK if I'm running it myself but not for an
end user.>>

  I haven't read the article yet, but the article is wrong.  By referencing
the pages property within a control (which can be hidden), the report engine
is forced into two pass mode.

  It first does a dry run of the entire report without printing.  It is
important to note that the OnPrint events are by-passed on this dry run, so
any logic for capturing page numbers or modifying the layout must be in the
OnFormat events..

  I just worked on a college transcript problem for someone where a column
footer needed to be placed at the end of each column.  Here's the resulting
code from the term footer OnFormat event.  This used the two pass technique
and saved the footer location for each footer to a table.  A message was
displayed based on whether or not additional footers remained to be printed
it's location.  The code is shown below.

Jim.

  If FormatCount = 1 Then

    ' Try and find the footer.
    rstFooterInfo.Seek "=", varLastSYVRTRN_INSTIT_TRANSFER,
varLastSYVRTRN_SBGI_CODE, varLastSYVRTRN_TERM_CODE

    If rstFooterInfo.NoMatch Then
      ' Save the footer info
      rstFooterInfo.AddNew
    Else
      rstFooterInfo.Edit
    End If

    rstFooterInfo![SYVRTRN_INSTIT_TRANSFER] = varLastSYVRTRN_INSTIT_TRANSFER
    rstFooterInfo![SYVRTRN_SBGI_CODE] = varLastSYVRTRN_SBGI_CODE
    rstFooterInfo![SYVRTRN_TERM_CODE] = varLastSYVRTRN_TERM_CODE
    rstFooterInfo![PageNumber] = Me.Page
    rstFooterInfo![ColumnNumber] = IIf(Me.Left < 3000, 0, 1)
    rstFooterInfo.Update



    ' Format the continue message

    ' Is there another footer in front of us?
    rstFooterInfo.Seek ">", varLastSYVRTRN_INSTIT_TRANSFER,
varLastSYVRTRN_SBGI_CODE, varLastSYVRTRN_TERM_CODE
    If rstFooterInfo.NoMatch Then
      ' This is the last footer
      txtContinuation.Value = ""
    Else
      ' We have something more to print
      ' which column is the next footer in?
      If rstFooterInfo![PageNumber] = Me.Page And
rstFooterInfo![ColumnNumber] = IIf(Me.Left < 3000, 0, 1) Then
        ' Next section is within the same page and col.
        ' No message
        txtContinuation.Value = ""
      Else
        If rstFooterInfo![ColumnNumber] = 0 Then
          ' We must be in the right column right now
          txtContinuation.Value = "********************* CONTINUED ON PAGE "
& rstFooterInfo![PageNumber] & " *********************"
        Else
          ' We are in the left column
          txtContinuation.Value = "****************** CONTINUED IN NEXT
COLUMN *******************"
        End If
      End If
    End If
  End If








-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 2:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access
report


Jim:

Thank you.  That looks promising.  However, it says:

" When you preview the report, page through all of the pages of the report
to make sure that the Print event is triggered for all records. "

which is not practical.  That's OK if I'm running it myself but not for an
end user.

And I don't want to print it twice.  The page number is tracked in a counter
that gets incremented in the page footer event.  So until the report is
printed once there's no way to know what page a given record is on.

Is there a way to print without actually printing?

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at earthlink.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access
report


> Rocky,
>
>  You need to force 2 pass mode, then save the descriptions and pages to a
> table on the first pass.  See the following MSKB article:
>
> ACC2000: How to Create a Table of Contents or Index for a Report
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=210269
>
> Jim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:55 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access
> report
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> I would like to insert a table of contents into a rather lengthy report
> which can vary in its content.
>
> The content is actually printed in two subreports.
>
> Is there some way to know what page a detail record is on so that a table
> of
> contents could be generated and inserted into a report.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 14 08:03:17 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:03:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <3rr9ri$ueut0o@mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNKEOEDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Dian,

<< I do volunteer work to help women in a
shelter prepare for a better life, I'm helping a friend write a curriculum
to teach kids how to use the MS Office (including Access) suite...and I
maintain my 'baby dbs'...when someone asks for help.>>

  Sounds like your being "brilliant" to me.  I believe that the noblest
pursuit in life is to help others without real benefit to yourself.

Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dian
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Wow....what am I doing now...in this group, feel like I should come up with
something brilliant...but, I can't. I do volunteer work to help women in a
shelter prepare for a better life, I'm helping a friend write a curriculum
to teach kids how to use the MS Office (including Access) suite...and I
maintain my 'baby dbs'...when someone asks for help. I am retired and a bit
lazy...I basically do what I want to do. Oh, and reading the messages in
here is the first thing I do when I have a chance...

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?

Wow...thank you. ;)

What are you doing right now -- Access-wise.

Susan H.

Susan, thank you...but, you had no way of knowing...and your books (several
of them, actually) have helped me survive all the worst of it. I'm a major
fan. Thank you again...


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From pennwhite at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 14 08:04:30 2005
From: pennwhite at hotmail.com (Penn White)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:04:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Help Authoring Tool recommendations?
References: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNCEOEDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY23-DAV747C8AB5B8FC67914B275BD350@phx.gbl>

Hi all,

New to the group.

Does anyone have experience with any Help Authoring tools for use with 
ACC03 - especially the free ones <grin>?

Thanks,

Penn 


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 14 08:11:42 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:11:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access report
In-Reply-To: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNCEOEDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20050414131146.FKUD2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

 

  I haven't read the article yet, but the article is wrong.  By referencing
the pages property within a control (which can be hidden), the report engine
is forced into two pass mode.

  ========Some of my best work comes from rewriting kb and msdn articles so
that they actually work. 

Susan H. 



From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Thu Apr 14 08:14:42 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:14:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F25D@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

I think it was Jerry Lewis who said something to the effect of;

The most selfish thing you can do is help other people because it makes you feel so good.

Of course he didn't mean that in a bad way...

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 


Dian,

<< I do volunteer work to help women in a
shelter prepare for a better life, I'm helping a friend write a curriculum
to teach kids how to use the MS Office (including Access) suite...and I
maintain my 'baby dbs'...when someone asks for help.>>

  Sounds like your being "brilliant" to me.  I believe that the noblest
pursuit in life is to help others without real benefit to yourself.

Jim.


From Dave.Bucher at state.mn.us  Thu Apr 14 08:54:41 2005
From: Dave.Bucher at state.mn.us (Bucher, Dave)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:54:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Calendar Controls
Message-ID: <DFE71DA828F48342A3AC388F6681D0D83E8315@DHS10081.mn-dhse.co.dhs>

Just had troubles with both the DatePicker and Calendar controls. Many
discussions can be Googled of folks having troubles with these Active X
controls. I downloaded and modified Brendan Kidwell's free Date Picker
vis-a-vis The Access Web at http://www.mvps.org/access/forms/frm0057.htm
and it works like a charm.


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Apr 14 09:00:34 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:00:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Help Authoring Tool recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <31674687.1113484034901.JavaMail.root@sniper23>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAKRPAT7tOtU+0NwKCIFEJ+wEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Hi Penn,

I've used HelpMatic Pro HTML.  I haven't used any other programs but this
seemed fine to me.  It did only cost $50, so that's not too bad.

It does let you create a CSS file for consistent and easily changeable
formatting.

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Penn White
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Help Authoring Tool recommendations?

Hi all,

New to the group.

Does anyone have experience with any Help Authoring tools for use with 
ACC03 - especially the free ones <grin>?

Thanks,

Penn 
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 14 09:52:42 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:52:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F25D@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNGEPBDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Neal,

<<The most selfish thing you can do is help other people because it makes
you feel so good.>>

 Never thought of it that way, but he's right<g>

  When I said "without real benefit to yourself", I meant monetarily.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Neal Kling
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:15 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


I think it was Jerry Lewis who said something to the effect of;

The most selfish thing you can do is help other people because it makes you
feel so good.

Of course he didn't mean that in a bad way...

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Dian,

<< I do volunteer work to help women in a
shelter prepare for a better life, I'm helping a friend write a curriculum
to teach kids how to use the MS Office (including Access) suite...and I
maintain my 'baby dbs'...when someone asks for help.>>

  Sounds like your being "brilliant" to me.  I believe that the noblest
pursuit in life is to help others without real benefit to yourself.

Jim.
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 11:13:12 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:13:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
Message-ID: <39cb22f305041409137f59197f@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Group,

This is far from urgent. I'm simply trying to make it easier for a client.

I've set up a form for my client to add news items to a web page I put
together for her. There are text boxes for a date, a title for the
item, and for the text of the news item itself. That text box is
called txtNewsItem.

There, of course, is no formatting in a text box; but I'd like to give
my client the option to insert the proper HTML codes for bold, italic,
underline, line break, etc. I could give her a cheat sheat with a few
of the codes listed and how to type them in properly, but I'd like to
go a little further. Is there a way for, say, the <b></b> codes to be
inserted in a text box with a keystroke like Ctrl-B?

I've been experimenting with SendKeys and OnKeyUp. I discovered that
the SendKeys action itself triggers the OnKeyUp event; so a bit of
code like this in the On Key Up event procedure does NOT work
properly:

Private Sub NewsItem_KeyUp(KeyCode As Integer, Shift As Integer)
If Shift And acCtrlMask Then
   Select Case KeyCode
      Case Asc("B"), Asc("b")
         SendKeys "<b></b>"
         ... etc.

So I moved the SendKeys to a Click event procedure of a button off to
the side of the txtNewsItem text box...but when I use code like this:

Private Sub cmdBold_Click()
   Screen.PreviousControl.SetFocus
   SendKeys "<b></b>"

... the HTML codes are placed at the END of the text in the box. The
cursor position is lost when the button is clicked.

Ideally I'd like the user to be able to select a block of text and
press Ctrl-B and have the HTML <b> and </b> codes appear surrounding
the selected text. Is this even possible?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security


From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Thu Apr 14 11:17:24 2005
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:17:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? 
In-Reply-To: <OF178D69D5.10C6AB4C-ONCA256FE3.001AF1E5@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <026401c5410d$72177f50$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


I was welcomed in to the list on October 15, 2003. I heard about the group
at least a year earlier, and tried to join, but the DatabaseAdvisors site
was damnibly hard to find using a Google search, and I gave up. Out of
curiosity, I've just tried searching again, with better success. However, it
is still unclear from the DatabaseAdvisors results that it is indeed the
AccessD group. Fortunately, other sites now do a much better job of equating
the two in their links, so you can find the real site with a little extra
clicking. I would suggest revisiting the site from a Web Search perspective,
and revising your page titles and introductory pages, to drive home that
DatabaseAdvisors really is AccessD.

-Ken




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr 14 11:27:21 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:27:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I think what you're looking for is an autokeys macro.  You can find info
in Help using the AutoKeys search word.  The name of each autokey macro
is a ^x syntax, which represents the combination of control key and
letter to press to trigger the macro.  The macro can use a SendKeys to
insert the desired text at the cursor position.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box


Dear Group,

This is far from urgent. I'm simply trying to make it easier for a
client.

I've set up a form for my client to add news items to a web page I put
together for her. There are text boxes for a date, a title for the item,
and for the text of the news item itself. That text box is called
txtNewsItem.

There, of course, is no formatting in a text box; but I'd like to give
my client the option to insert the proper HTML codes for bold, italic,
underline, line break, etc. I could give her a cheat sheat with a few of
the codes listed and how to type them in properly, but I'd like to go a
little further. Is there a way for, say, the <b></b> codes to be
inserted in a text box with a keystroke like Ctrl-B?

I've been experimenting with SendKeys and OnKeyUp. I discovered that the
SendKeys action itself triggers the OnKeyUp event; so a bit of code like
this in the On Key Up event procedure does NOT work
properly:

Private Sub NewsItem_KeyUp(KeyCode As Integer, Shift As Integer) If
Shift And acCtrlMask Then
   Select Case KeyCode
      Case Asc("B"), Asc("b")
         SendKeys "<b></b>"
         ... etc.

So I moved the SendKeys to a Click event procedure of a button off to
the side of the txtNewsItem text box...but when I use code like this:

Private Sub cmdBold_Click()
   Screen.PreviousControl.SetFocus
   SendKeys "<b></b>"

... the HTML codes are placed at the END of the text in the box. The
cursor position is lost when the button is clicked.

Ideally I'd like the user to be able to select a block of text and press
Ctrl-B and have the HTML <b> and </b> codes appear surrounding the
selected text. Is this even possible?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Thu Apr 14 11:34:45 2005
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:34:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f305041409137f59197f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050414163644.TTMV5402.mta11.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>

Steve

You might want to consider using Stephen Lebans' Rich Text Format 2 control
(http://www.lebans.com/richtext.htm).

Regards,
Bob Gajewski
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box

Dear Group,

This is far from urgent. I'm simply trying to make it easier for a client.

I've set up a form for my client to add news items to a web page I put
together for her. There are text boxes for a date, a title for the item, and
for the text of the news item itself. That text box is called txtNewsItem.

There, of course, is no formatting in a text box; but I'd like to give my
client the option to insert the proper HTML codes for bold, italic,
underline, line break, etc. I could give her a cheat sheat with a few of the
codes listed and how to type them in properly, but I'd like to go a little
further. Is there a way for, say, the <b></b> codes to be inserted in a text
box with a keystroke like Ctrl-B?

I've been experimenting with SendKeys and OnKeyUp. I discovered that the
SendKeys action itself triggers the OnKeyUp event; so a bit of code like
this in the On Key Up event procedure does NOT work
properly:

Private Sub NewsItem_KeyUp(KeyCode As Integer, Shift As Integer) If Shift
And acCtrlMask Then
   Select Case KeyCode
      Case Asc("B"), Asc("b")
         SendKeys "<b></b>"
         ... etc.

So I moved the SendKeys to a Click event procedure of a button off to the
side of the txtNewsItem text box...but when I use code like this:

Private Sub cmdBold_Click()
   Screen.PreviousControl.SetFocus
   SendKeys "<b></b>"

... the HTML codes are placed at the END of the text in the box. The cursor
position is lost when the button is clicked.

Ideally I'd like the user to be able to select a block of text and press
Ctrl-B and have the HTML <b> and </b> codes appear surrounding the selected
text. Is this even possible?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Thu Apr 14 12:11:33 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:11:33 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723374F4@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKAEHMCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hey Jim,
Thanks again for the code it works just fine except for when I use it for my
actual project.
When using your code in a table in Word it retrieves the text of interest
okay, but also includes the search string.
After much testing I find this only happens in the table, which of course is
where I need to cull the data from.
I have looked at selection.movestart and some other Word functions to no
avail.
Would you have any ideas?

bob



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Here is some quick and dirty code that opens a Word doc from inside Access,
searches for the string "special code:" and sets a string variable equal to
the sentence that follows the code string. If your documents all have the
same string you can find that string and select words, sentences or
paragraphs that come after it. HTH
Jim Hale

Function LiftText()

Dim wd As Word.Application, strPhrase As String, strFindphrase As String
strFindphrase = "special code:"
Set wd = New Word.Application
wd.Documents.Open "C:\Test.doc"
wd.Visible = True
wd.Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
    With wd.Selection.Find
        .Text = strFindphrase
        .Replacement.Text = ""
        .Forward = True
        .Wrap = wdFindContinue
        .Format = False
        .MatchCase = False
        .MatchWholeWord = False
        .MatchWildcards = False
        .MatchSoundsLike = False
        .MatchAllWordForms = False
    End With
    wd.Selection.Find.Execute
    wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
    strPhrase = wd.Selection
    MsgBox "Look what I found: " & strPhrase
    wd.ActiveDocument.Close
    wd.Quit
    Set wd = Nothing
End Function

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.

thanks anyway.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Apr 14 12:27:53 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:27:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Help Authoring Tool recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <27884291.1113487534936.JavaMail.root@sniper19>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAxOyOgBB5vEib8quXhUXAkQEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Penn,

I should have also mentioned that HelpMatic Pro HTML can be used with the
Help Context ID property for controls and forms.

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help Authoring Tool recommendations?

Hi Penn,

I've used HelpMatic Pro HTML.  I haven't used any other programs but this
seemed fine to me.  It did only cost $50, so that's not too bad.

It does let you create a CSS file for consistent and easily changeable
formatting.

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Penn White
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Help Authoring Tool recommendations?

Hi all,

New to the group.

Does anyone have experience with any Help Authoring tools for use with 
ACC03 - especially the free ones <grin>?

Thanks,

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From Jeff at outbaktech.com  Thu Apr 14 12:31:28 2005
From: Jeff at outbaktech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:31:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
Message-ID: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D0D9100@belgarion.Outbak.local>

Hello Group!!!
 
I am at a client site and I am having a brain dead moment here.
 
I have a form where the user selects the parameters for a report (query).  I send the Parameter to the query to populate the report.  Here is the problem, what do I send as the parameter if the user wants to select 'ALL' of the possible values for the Parameter.  I know that I have seen or done this before, but I can not think of how I did this.
 
Please Help!!
 
TIA
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr 14 12:47:04 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:47:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Depends on the structure of the query and the parameter.  More info
please.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:31 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query


Hello Group!!!
 
I am at a client site and I am having a brain dead moment here.
 
I have a form where the user selects the parameters for a report
(query).  I send the Parameter to the query to populate the report.
Here is the problem, what do I send as the parameter if the user wants
to select 'ALL' of the possible values for the Parameter.  I know that I
have seen or done this before, but I can not think of how I did this.
 
Please Help!!
 
TIA
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Apr 14 12:55:26 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:55:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B6A724@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABE9F7@ADGSERVER>

What about having a separate text box where the user types the raw text.
Then they click on a formatting button that adds the HTML around the text
and appends it to the main text box?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box


Dear Group,

This is far from urgent. I'm simply trying to make it easier for a client.

I've set up a form for my client to add news items to a web page I put
together for her. There are text boxes for a date, a title for the item, and
for the text of the news item itself. That text box is called txtNewsItem.

There, of course, is no formatting in a text box; but I'd like to give my
client the option to insert the proper HTML codes for bold, italic,
underline, line break, etc. I could give her a cheat sheat with a few of the
codes listed and how to type them in properly, but I'd like to go a little
further. Is there a way for, say, the <b></b> codes to be inserted in a text
box with a keystroke like Ctrl-B?

I've been experimenting with SendKeys and OnKeyUp. I discovered that the
SendKeys action itself triggers the OnKeyUp event; so a bit of code like
this in the On Key Up event procedure does NOT work
properly:

Private Sub NewsItem_KeyUp(KeyCode As Integer, Shift As Integer) If Shift
And acCtrlMask Then
   Select Case KeyCode
      Case Asc("B"), Asc("b")
         SendKeys "<b></b>"
         ... etc.

So I moved the SendKeys to a Click event procedure of a button off to the
side of the txtNewsItem text box...but when I use code like this:

Private Sub cmdBold_Click()
   Screen.PreviousControl.SetFocus
   SendKeys "<b></b>"

... the HTML codes are placed at the END of the text in the box. The cursor
position is lost when the button is clicked.

Ideally I'd like the user to be able to select a block of text and press
Ctrl-B and have the HTML <b> and </b> codes appear surrounding the selected
text. Is this even possible?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 14 13:02:58 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:02:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
In-Reply-To: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D0D9100@belgarion.Outbak.local>
Message-ID: <20050414180302.QCID2186.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Like [your prompt] & "*"

Susan H.  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:31 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query

Hello Group!!!
 
I am at a client site and I am having a brain dead moment here.
 
I have a form where the user selects the parameters for a report (query).  I
send the Parameter to the query to populate the report.  Here is the
problem, what do I send as the parameter if the user wants to select 'ALL'
of the possible values for the Parameter.  I know that I have seen or done
this before, but I can not think of how I did this.
 
Please Help!!
 
TIA
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Thu Apr 14 13:05:46 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:05:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586CBCB@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Jeff,

If you use a Like operator instead of an equals sign in your WHERE
clause, you can pass in an asterisk to select all.
For example:

SELECT Employee.FirstName, Employee.LastName
FROM Employee
WHERE Employee.LastName Like [MyNameParameter];

To get a specific employee, you would pass in "Smith", "Jones", etc.  If
you pass "*" as the parameter instead, it will return all records.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:31 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query


Hello Group!!!
 
I am at a client site and I am having a brain dead moment here.
 
I have a form where the user selects the parameters for a report
(query).  I send the Parameter to the query to populate the report.
Here is the problem, what do I send as the parameter if the user wants
to select 'ALL' of the possible values for the Parameter.  I know that I
have seen or done this before, but I can not think of how I did this.
 
Please Help!!
 
TIA
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com

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From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 13:22:54 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:22:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <20050414163644.TTMV5402.mta11.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>
References: <39cb22f305041409137f59197f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20050414163644.TTMV5402.mta11.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050414112214e15703@mail.gmail.com>

Bob,

I like Lebans offerings, but, again, I'm trying to insert HTML codes
into the text stream, not just bold or italicize the text in the
table.

Steve Erbach

On 4/14/05, Bob Gajewski <rbgajewski at adelphia.net> wrote:
> Steve
> 
> You might want to consider using Stephen Lebans' Rich Text Format 2 control
> (http://www.lebans.com/richtext.htm).
> 
> Regards,
> Bob Gajewski


From ldoering at symphonyinfo.com  Thu Apr 14 13:23:52 2005
From: ldoering at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:23:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f305041409137f59197f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1DM91I-0007fx-00@pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net>

Steve,

I just create buttons along side of my text box for this, with names like
"Paragraph" or "Bold".  Use the & to give the alt+p or alt+b keyboard
functionality.  This way, the user can just add the symbol they want as they
are typing.

Then on the button click do this:

Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox = Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox & " add this"
Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox.SetFocus
Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox.SelStart = Len(Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox) + 1

You have to set the focus back on the end of your text, otherwise it will
stay on the button.

You could also set a hidden field for off and on, so that the first time she
hit the button it would produce <b> and the second time it would produce
</b>.


Liz


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box

Dear Group,

This is far from urgent. I'm simply trying to make it easier for a client.

I've set up a form for my client to add news items to a web page I put
together for her. There are text boxes for a date, a title for the
item, and for the text of the news item itself. That text box is
called txtNewsItem.

There, of course, is no formatting in a text box; but I'd like to give
my client the option to insert the proper HTML codes for bold, italic,
underline, line break, etc. I could give her a cheat sheat with a few
of the codes listed and how to type them in properly, but I'd like to
go a little further. Is there a way for, say, the <b></b> codes to be
inserted in a text box with a keystroke like Ctrl-B?

I've been experimenting with SendKeys and OnKeyUp. I discovered that
the SendKeys action itself triggers the OnKeyUp event; so a bit of
code like this in the On Key Up event procedure does NOT work
properly:

Private Sub NewsItem_KeyUp(KeyCode As Integer, Shift As Integer)
If Shift And acCtrlMask Then
   Select Case KeyCode
      Case Asc("B"), Asc("b")
         SendKeys "<b></b>"
         ... etc.

So I moved the SendKeys to a Click event procedure of a button off to
the side of the txtNewsItem text box...but when I use code like this:

Private Sub cmdBold_Click()
   Screen.PreviousControl.SetFocus
   SendKeys "<b></b>"

... the HTML codes are placed at the END of the text in the box. The
cursor position is lost when the button is clicked.

Ideally I'd like the user to be able to select a block of text and
press Ctrl-B and have the HTML <b> and </b> codes appear surrounding
the selected text. Is this even possible?

Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 13:45:02 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:45:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305041411457053a646@mail.gmail.com>

Charlotte,

It's possible that my Access 2000 installation is a bit screwy. I
tried that AutoKeys thing in Access 2003 and it works as advertised.
My new ^b macro uses SendKeys to insert <b></b> at the cursor just
fine.

However, on an older machine with Access 2000 installed, I set up the
same macro in AutoKeys, but when I press the key combo, a message
appears in the Access status bar: "Setting up wizards..." and a
progress bar appears next to it. A single block appears in the status
bar and nothing happens. If I then press ^b again, the status message
and progress bar disappears, but still no HTML codes. I think I'll see
what happens if I open this Access 2000 database in 2003 and do the
macros there.

Thanks, Charlotte.

On 4/14/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> I think what you're looking for is an autokeys macro.  You can find info
> in Help using the AutoKeys search word.  The name of each autokey macro
> is a ^x syntax, which represents the combination of control key and
> letter to press to trigger the macro.  The macro can use a SendKeys to
> insert the desired text at the cursor position.
> 
> Charlotte Foust

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From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 13:51:43 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:51:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <E1DM91I-0007fx-00@pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <39cb22f305041409137f59197f@mail.gmail.com>
	<E1DM91I-0007fx-00@pop-a065d23.pas.sa.earthlink.net>
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Liz,

You know, when I was puzzling over this before I posted my question, I
tried to find the commands for selecting text in a text box, but was
unsuccessful. SelStart! That's it.

I was trying to duplicate what I could do manually if I were, say, to
record a keystroke macro...as if Access allowed me to do something
like that. I'd select the text, press Ctrl-X to cut, type in <b>,
press Ctrl-V to paste the text back in, and finally type </b>. I
couldn't for the life of me figure out why I couldn't do this even
though there are RunCommands for acCmdCut and acCmdPaste. When I tried
to do this in code I go a message saying that Paste was not
appropriate in the current context or something like that.

Hmmm...this is worth looking into. Thank you very much.

Steve Erbach

On 4/14/05, Liz Doering <ldoering at symphonyinfo.com> wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> I just create buttons along side of my text box for this, with names like
> "Paragraph" or "Bold".  Use the & to give the alt+p or alt+b keyboard
> functionality.  This way, the user can just add the symbol they want as they
> are typing.
> 
> Then on the button click do this:
> 
> Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox = Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox & " add this"
> Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox.SetFocus
> Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox.SelStart = Len(Me.txtMyHTMLTextBox) + 1
> 
> You have to set the focus back on the end of your text, otherwise it will
> stay on the button.
> 
> You could also set a hidden field for off and on, so that the first time she
> hit the button it would produce <b> and the second time it would produce
> </b>.
> 
> 
> Liz


From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 13:56:59 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:56:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050414115654b6ab2e@mail.gmail.com>

Charlotte,

Yeah, if I open the Access 2000 database in Access 2003, the SendKeys
macro works properly. I think I'll use this. Thanks to all!

Steve Erbach

On 4/14/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> I think what you're looking for is an autokeys macro.  You can find info
> in Help using the AutoKeys search word.  The name of each autokey macro
> is a ^x syntax, which represents the combination of control key and
> letter to press to trigger the macro.  The macro can use a SendKeys to
> insert the desired text at the cursor position.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
>


From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Apr 14 14:38:55 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:38:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
References: <425EB3B6.3960.F9B1E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <00a201c54129$ce2f2d30$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello A.d. Teypal and Stuart,

thanks to you both for helping me out.
Again you saved me time.

Just out of interest, i solved this in another way,
but i have also codes in the same field like: 5.11.3.3 
How could i adjust the expression so that it can handle 
both types of codes at ones.

Pedro



----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] add a number in between


> On 13 Apr 2005 at 20:53, Pedro Janssen wrote:
>
> > fieldA                     fieldB
> > 6.10.3.3 0             16
> > 5.04.2.4 #0           8
> > as result i would like:
> > fieldC
> > 6.10.3.3.16 0
> > 5.04.2.4.8 #0
> >
>
> This should do it:
> fieldC: Left$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," ") -1) & "." & fieldB &
> Mid$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," "))
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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>
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Apr 14 14:53:04 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:53:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337505@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function: 

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String
 
  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)
  
  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp
  
End Function

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hey Jim,
Thanks again for the code it works just fine except for when I use it for my
actual project.
When using your code in a table in Word it retrieves the text of interest
okay, but also includes the search string.
After much testing I find this only happens in the table, which of course is
where I need to cull the data from.
I have looked at selection.movestart and some other Word functions to no
avail.
Would you have any ideas?

bob



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Here is some quick and dirty code that opens a Word doc from inside Access,
searches for the string "special code:" and sets a string variable equal to
the sentence that follows the code string. If your documents all have the
same string you can find that string and select words, sentences or
paragraphs that come after it. HTH
Jim Hale

Function LiftText()

Dim wd As Word.Application, strPhrase As String, strFindphrase As String
strFindphrase = "special code:"
Set wd = New Word.Application
wd.Documents.Open "C:\Test.doc"
wd.Visible = True
wd.Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
    With wd.Selection.Find
        .Text = strFindphrase
        .Replacement.Text = ""
        .Forward = True
        .Wrap = wdFindContinue
        .Format = False
        .MatchCase = False
        .MatchWholeWord = False
        .MatchWildcards = False
        .MatchSoundsLike = False
        .MatchAllWordForms = False
    End With
    wd.Selection.Find.Execute
    wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
    strPhrase = wd.Selection
    MsgBox "Look what I found: " & strPhrase
    wd.ActiveDocument.Close
    wd.Quit
    Set wd = Nothing
End Function

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.

thanks anyway.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

accesspro at nospamcox.net


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr 14 15:33:56 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:33:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

AutoKeys should work in any version of Access, so I suspect you have a
wizard problem with the 2000 on the older machine.  That was a recurrent
problem in that version, as I recall.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box


Charlotte,

It's possible that my Access 2000 installation is a bit screwy. I tried
that AutoKeys thing in Access 2003 and it works as advertised. My new ^b
macro uses SendKeys to insert <b></b> at the cursor just fine.

However, on an older machine with Access 2000 installed, I set up the
same macro in AutoKeys, but when I press the key combo, a message
appears in the Access status bar: "Setting up wizards..." and a progress
bar appears next to it. A single block appears in the status bar and
nothing happens. If I then press ^b again, the status message and
progress bar disappears, but still no HTML codes. I think I'll see what
happens if I open this Access 2000 database in 2003 and do the macros
there.

Thanks, Charlotte.

On 4/14/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> I think what you're looking for is an autokeys macro.  You can find 
> info in Help using the AutoKeys search word.  The name of each autokey

> macro is a ^x syntax, which represents the combination of control key 
> and letter to press to trigger the macro.  The macro can use a 
> SendKeys to insert the desired text at the cursor position.
> 
> Charlotte Foust

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Scientific Marketing
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 15:49:12 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:49:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398D@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050414134931710c0b@mail.gmail.com>

Charlotte,

And now I've got it installed at my client's site and she says that
the macros don't do anything in her copy of Access 2000! Sheesh! Each
of my macros does SendKeys...and all it does is type in codes:

<b></b>

Works fine if I run the A2000 database (it's actually an ADP) in
Access 2003. I say again: Sheesh!

Steve Erbach

On 4/14/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> AutoKeys should work in any version of Access, so I suspect you have a
> wizard problem with the 2000 on the older machine.  That was a recurrent
> problem in that version, as I recall.
> 
> Charlotte Foust


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Apr 14 16:13:37 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:13:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Hmmn.  You failed to mention the ADP previously, and there are definite
differences between ADPs and MDBs.  I have no idea whether AutoKeys
works in ADPs or not, so in an ADP, I would probably opt for one of the
alternative approaches suggested.  

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Erbach [mailto:erbachs at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box


Charlotte,

And now I've got it installed at my client's site and she says that the
macros don't do anything in her copy of Access 2000! Sheesh! Each of my
macros does SendKeys...and all it does is type in codes:

<b></b>

Works fine if I run the A2000 database (it's actually an ADP) in Access
2003. I say again: Sheesh!

Steve Erbach

On 4/14/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> AutoKeys should work in any version of Access, so I suspect you have a

> wizard problem with the 2000 on the older machine.  That was a 
> recurrent problem in that version, as I recall.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
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From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 16:45:35 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:45:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30504141445635fde1a@mail.gmail.com>

Charlotte,

Perhaps that's it, then, at least in Access 2000. OK, I'll try another way.

Steve Erbach

On 4/14/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> Hmmn.  You failed to mention the ADP previously, and there are definite
> differences between ADPs and MDBs.  I have no idea whether AutoKeys
> works in ADPs or not, so in an ADP, I would probably opt for one of the
> alternative approaches suggested.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
>


From erbachs at gmail.com  Thu Apr 14 16:48:45 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:48:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SQL to Change a field value based on an input
In-Reply-To: <OFD0FEC623.9F4836E2-ONCA256FE3.0019A2D4@agric.nsw.gov.au>
References: <OFD0FEC623.9F4836E2-ONCA256FE3.0019A2D4@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30504141448124186bf@mail.gmail.com>

Connie,

I don't suppose it's something mundane like the Status field being a
Text field instead of Numeric, is it?

Steve Erbach

On 4/13/05, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au
<connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I am trying to write a quick update which will change athe status field in
> my DB to 1, and the status date to today if a date criteris is met. here is
> my SQL
> 
> UPDATE tblDAuthorityRenewal SET tblDAuthorityRenewal.Status = 1,
> tblDAuthorityRenewal.StatusDate = Date()
> WHERE (((tblDAuthorityRenewal.EndDate)=#11/1/2003#));
> 
> except I am passing a parameter into the last bit (of course)
> 
> If I run this SQL either directkly or in my form the date changes to today
> but the status doesn't change ...
> 
> Yours in confusion
> Connie Kamrowski
> 
> Analyst/Programmer
> Information Technology
> NSW Department of Primary Industries
> Orange


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 14 17:03:15 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:03:15 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
In-Reply-To: <00a201c54129$ce2f2d30$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <425F7543.7953.303A8DC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Apr 2005 at 21:38, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Hello A.d. Teypal and Stuart,
> 
> thanks to you both for helping me out.
> Again you saved me time.
> 
> Just out of interest, i solved this in another way,
> but i have also codes in the same field like: 5.11.3.3 
> How could i adjust the expression so that it can handle 
> both types of codes at ones.
> 
IIf (Instr(fieldA)> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." & fieldB)

> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] add a number in between
> 
> 
> > On 13 Apr 2005 at 20:53, Pedro Janssen wrote:
> >
> > > fieldA                     fieldB
> > > 6.10.3.3 0             16
> > > 5.04.2.4 #0           8
> > > as result i would like:
> > > fieldC
> > > 6.10.3.3.16 0
> > > 5.04.2.4.8 #0
> > >
> >
> > This should do it:
> > fieldC: Left$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," ") -1) & "." & fieldB &
> > Mid$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," "))
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 14 20:46:29 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:46:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
	<39cb22f30504141445635fde1a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <425F1CF5.5000004@shaw.ca>

How are you obtaining your news, here is a way I display a raw rss xml 
news feed in Access via new IE window
You may want to grab my xsl file that does the xslt transform to html  
from website and place on disk.

Of course it is a lot flashier and easier to grab a news feed with a 
special rss news reader.
especially when you can drag and drop the feed to your reader via "XML" 
feed icon.
There are a lot out there like this open source one
http://www.rssreader.com/

Sub BBCRSSFeed()
Dim srcTree As Object
Dim xsltTree As Object
Dim strHTML As String
 Set srcTree = CreateObject("Msxml.DOMDocument")
        srcTree.async = False
        srcTree.Load 
("http://news.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_uk_edition/technology/rss091.xml")
 'srcTree.Load ("http://services.devx.com/outgoing/recentTipsFeed.xml")
 Set xsltTree = CreateObject("Msxml.DOMDOCUMENT")
        xsltTree.async = False
        'this xsl transform file can also be loaded via a local disk file
        xsltTree.Load ("http://www5.brinkster.com/mconnelly/newsfeed.xsl")

        strHTML = srcTree.transformNode(xsltTree)
        Debug.Print strHTML
        ' Display transformed xml rss news feed in html via IE 6.0 window
        testIE (strHTML)      
End Sub

Sub testIE(strpassHTML As String)
'------------------

Dim objExplorer As Object
Dim objDocument As Object
Dim strComputer As String

Dim strReturn As String

Set objExplorer = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application")

objExplorer.Navigate "about:blank"
objExplorer.Toolbar = 0
objExplorer.StatusBar = 0
objExplorer.Width = 800
objExplorer.Height = 570
objExplorer.Left = 0
objExplorer.Top = 0
objExplorer.Visible = 1
'dont't need to navigate to file or http site
'just drop html string in document object
'objExplorer.Navigate "http://checkip.dyndns.org/"
Do While (objExplorer.Busy)
Loop
Dim webtx As String
Dim strHTML As String
Set objDocument = objExplorer.Document
objDocument.Open
objDocument.Writeln "<html><head><title>My BBC Technology RSS 
Feed</title></head>"
objDocument.Writeln "<body bgcolor='red';" & _
    " {   background-attachment: fixed; background-position: 97% bottom; 
" & _
      "  background-image= 'url(logoBackGround.gif)';background-repeat: 
no-repeat;" & _
       " padding: 5px;font-family='Georgia';font-size: 80%;} >" 
     ' if no gif file it should execute okay.
objDocument.Writeln "<table width='100%'>"
objDocument.Writeln "<tr>"
objDocument.Writeln "<td width='20%'><b>BBC Feed</b></td>"
objDocument.Writeln "</tr>"
objDocument.Writeln "</table>"
objDocument.Writeln strpassHTML
objDocument.Writeln "</body></html>"
objDocument.Close
'MsgBox "finished"
Set objExplorer = Nothing
Set objDocument = Nothing
End Sub


Steve Erbach wrote:

>Charlotte,
>
>Perhaps that's it, then, at least in Access 2000. OK, I'll try another way.
>
>Steve Erbach
>
>On 4/14/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hmmn.  You failed to mention the ADP previously, and there are definite
>>differences between ADPs and MDBs.  I have no idea whether AutoKeys
>>works in ADPs or not, so in an ADP, I would probably opt for one of the
>>alternative approaches suggested.
>>
>>Charlotte Foust
>>
>>    
>>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From jmhla at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 14 22:57:28 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:57:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Jet 4.0 dll warning from e week   x posted
Message-ID: <005e01c5416f$3e5b3ff0$6501a8c0@laptop1>

 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 15 01:04:09 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:04:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <01ec01c5404f$9fab12b0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <0IEZ0090K4XJG2@l-daemon>

Hi Rocky:

I have now managed to get a combination of code to work in FireFox. Test it
out and if it is still not working get back to me.

Thanks
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again

Bryan:

DBA site - the go button didn't go.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>> Dear List:
>>
>> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the VBA

>> code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago 
>> which I implemented on my old machine.
>>
>> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where 
>> to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.
>
> Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?
>
> Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html
>
> It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution
>
> -- 
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> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
> shouting "What a great ride!"
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 15 01:24:38 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:24:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <026401c5410d$72177f50$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>
Message-ID: <0IEZ00D6C5VRD7@l-daemon>

Hi Ken:

Hopefully, that the DBA site is no longer using iframes, search engines will
be able to get a better view of the contents which should give us better
exposure. If you have some good suggestions on how the pages should have
their meta tags, for example, set up, please send along the details and I
would be more than happy to test it out.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ken Ismert
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:17 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


I was welcomed in to the list on October 15, 2003. I heard about the group
at least a year earlier, and tried to join, but the DatabaseAdvisors site
was damnibly hard to find using a Google search, and I gave up. Out of
curiosity, I've just tried searching again, with better success. However, it
is still unclear from the DatabaseAdvisors results that it is indeed the
AccessD group. Fortunately, other sites now do a much better job of equating
the two in their links, so you can find the real site with a little extra
clicking. I would suggest revisiting the site from a Web Search perspective,
and revising your page titles and introductory pages, to drive home that
DatabaseAdvisors really is AccessD.

-Ken


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From pennwhite at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 15 06:59:26 2005
From: pennwhite at hotmail.com (Penn White)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:59:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FYI - Protecting Command Bars
Message-ID: <BAY23-DAV16DEBBDC14D999AC3AB377BD360@phx.gbl>

FYI - This article was mentioned in the Access Advisor newsletter and I 
thought it was pretty cool.

http://advisorupdate.info/Articles.nsf/nl/16406

Penn 


From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Fri Apr 15 07:36:06 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:06:06 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access report
References: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNEEKADHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net> 
	<018901c54055$7d9f0ae0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <004501c541b7$e7c5d5d0$a81865cb@winxp>

Rocky,

    You don't have to print the report twice. On clicking the command button, the sequence of commands given below, should get you the desired results.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

Code in click event of command button
==================================
    DoCmd.OpenReport RepName, acViewPreview
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdFitToWindow
    ' Allow time to stabilise
    P_WaitShort 300 
    ' Navigate to last page (in print preview)    
    SendKeys "^{DOWN}", True
    DoCmd.PrintOut                                      ' (A)
'    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPrint       ' (B)
'    Note - For direct print, use (A). Otherwise,
'                (B) for invoking the Print dialog box
==================================

Subroutine for time delay
==================================
Sub P_WaitShort(ByVal Tmr As Long)
    Dim Cnt As Long
    
    For Cnt = 1 To Tmr
        DoEvents
    Next
End Sub
==================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 23:50
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access report


  Jim:

  Thank you.  That looks promising.  However, it says:

  " When you preview the report, page through all of the pages of the report 
  to make sure that the Print event is triggered for all records. "

  which is not practical.  That's OK if I'm running it myself but not for an 
  end user.

  And I don't want to print it twice.  The page number is tracked in a counter 
  that gets incremented in the page footer event.  So until the report is 
  printed once there's no way to know what page a given record is on.

  Is there a way to print without actually printing?

  Thanks and regards,

  Rocky Smolin
  Beach Access Software
  http://www.e-z-mrp.com
  858-259-4334

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at earthlink.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:06 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access 
  report


  > Rocky,
  >
  >  You need to force 2 pass mode, then save the descriptions and pages to a
  > table on the first pass.  See the following MSKB article:
  >
  > ACC2000: How to Create a Table of Contents or Index for a Report
  > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=210269
  >
  > Jim.
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
  > Beach Access Software
  > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 1:55 PM
  > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  > Subject: [AccessD] Page numbers for table of contents in an access
  > report
  >
  >
  > Dear List:
  >
  > I would like to insert a table of contents into a rather lengthy report
  > which can vary in its content.
  >
  > The content is actually printed in two subreports.
  >
  > Is there some way to know what page a detail record is on so that a table 
  > of
  > contents could be generated and inserted into a report.
  >
  > MTIA
  >
  > Rocky Smolin
  > Beach Access Software
  > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
  > 858-259-4334



From marcus at tsstech.com  Fri Apr 15 10:36:00 2005
From: marcus at tsstech.com (Scott Marcus)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:36:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
Message-ID: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D01D9C91F@2003exchg.TSS.AD>

Shouldn't that be...

IIf (Instr(fieldA," ")> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." &
fieldB)

In-stead-of...

IIf (Instr(fieldA)> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." & fieldB)

Scott Marcus
TSS Technologies, Inc.
marcus at tsstech.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] add a number in between

On 14 Apr 2005 at 21:38, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Hello A.d. Teypal and Stuart,
> 
> thanks to you both for helping me out.
> Again you saved me time.
> 
> Just out of interest, i solved this in another way,
> but i have also codes in the same field like: 5.11.3.3 
> How could i adjust the expression so that it can handle 
> both types of codes at ones.
> 
IIf (Instr(fieldA)> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." & fieldB)

> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] add a number in between
> 
> 
> > On 13 Apr 2005 at 20:53, Pedro Janssen wrote:
> >
> > > fieldA                     fieldB
> > > 6.10.3.3 0             16
> > > 5.04.2.4 #0           8
> > > as result i would like:
> > > fieldC
> > > 6.10.3.3.16 0
> > > 5.04.2.4.8 #0
> > >
> >
> > This should do it:
> > fieldC: Left$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," ") -1) & "." & fieldB &
> > Mid$(fieldA,Instr(fieldA," "))
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Fri Apr 15 10:47:43 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:47:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
Message-ID: <200504151548.j3FFm1i29595@databaseadvisors.com>

Hey lIsters,
My first post with my new address and I think it's easy, I just have to
get up to speed.  I have a report that does a sum([ErrorAmount]) at the
footer.  ErrorAmount is in the detail line, however there are duplicates
which are incorrectly being added to the sum([ErrorAmount]).  Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Randy.


From bgoss711 at ameritech.net  Fri Apr 15 11:39:26 2005
From: bgoss711 at ameritech.net (Bud Goss)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:39:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X Posted
Message-ID: <20050415163926.17765.qmail@web81309.mail.yahoo.com>


Greetings from a long time ACCESSD lurker

 

I have used the HIT Software Inc with Access 97 databases to establish links to our AS400 tables for quite a while.

 

When I attempt to use this software with an Access 2003 database to establish an ODBC link to our AS400 ( for many - not all -  tables ) the system will not create an ODBC link.

 

The message I get is Index already exists. Pressing Help gives the message "Index already exists. (Error 3284)" You cannot have two indexes with the same name in a table. Rename one of the indexes. 

 

But I can take the same table and establish an ODBC link with an Access 97 database.

 

I have attempted to do this on several Access 2003 databases ( Including a new totaly empty Access 2003 database) and have the same problem.

 

I have sent HIT Software trace files for this situation.They have not yet been able to determine the cause of this anomoly.

 

I suspect that the problem is in Access 2003 rather than with anything in our AS400.

 

Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, do you have a solution.



From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 15 11:54:17 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:54:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC04F3C4@dewey.Symphony.local>
References: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC04F3C4@dewey.Symphony.local>
Message-ID: <5f2de2420504150954512ebf20@mail.gmail.com>

My subbing address has changed at least three times over the years. 
It would take quite alot of digging to figure out exactly when I first
arrived, but I know it was during the "Memphis Technology" era.  IIRC
a seasoned poster from that time period that didn't make the list
below was Charles Wortz.


Mark Mitsules



On 4/7/05, Steve Capistrant <scapistrant at symphonyinfo.com> wrote:
> December 1999.  At that time the list being dominated by John Colby,
> Jurgen Welz, Lembit Soobik, William Hindman, Arthur Fuller, among
> others.
> 
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> Symphony Information Services
> 7308 Aspen Lane North, Suite 132
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Fri Apr 15 12:09:21 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:09:21 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
In-Reply-To: <200504151548.j3FFm1i29595@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <004201c541dd$ddb52020$a0150c54@minster33c3r25>

Randy
I'd guess that the sum is only summing what's there, so are you saying you
want duplicates suppressing from the report entirely, and thus from the
totals? Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear in the
detail but not be totalled?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Randall R Anthony
> Sent: 15 April 2005 16:48
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
> 
> 
> Hey lIsters,
> My first post with my new address and I think it's easy, I 
> just have to get up to speed.  I have a report that does a 
> sum([ErrorAmount]) at the footer.  ErrorAmount is in the 
> detail line, however there are duplicates which are 
> incorrectly being added to the sum([ErrorAmount]).  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy.
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> 



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Apr 15 12:16:04 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:16:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X Posted
In-Reply-To: <31725533.1113584032634.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAyawgXk2D4kyh/JLl934OTQEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Bud,

You didn't say if you actually have more than one index in the tables.  To
find out first put the table in Design view.  Then open the Index dialog box
by pushing the 'lightening bolt' button.  You can delete indexes from here.

To stop this from happening go to Tools|Options and click the Tables tab.
You'll see a field called AutoIndex on Import/Create.  Clear everything out
of this field.  If something in this field partially matches a name that
you've given to a field, then you'll automatically get an index on that
field.  Check Help to get the whole story. 

If you manually created an index for the same field, then you may have two
indexes with the same name.

Perhaps A97 did not have this AutoIndex feature.

HTH!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bud Goss
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X Posted


Greetings from a long time ACCESSD lurker

 

I have used the HIT Software Inc with Access 97 databases to establish links
to our AS400 tables for quite a while.

 

When I attempt to use this software with an Access 2003 database to
establish an ODBC link to our AS400 ( for many - not all -  tables ) the
system will not create an ODBC link.

 

The message I get is Index already exists. Pressing Help gives the message
"Index already exists. (Error 3284)" You cannot have two indexes with the
same name in a table. Rename one of the indexes. 

 

But I can take the same table and establish an ODBC link with an Access 97
database.

 

I have attempted to do this on several Access 2003 databases ( Including a
new totaly empty Access 2003 database) and have the same problem.

 

I have sent HIT Software trace files for this situation.They have not yet
been able to determine the cause of this anomoly.

 

I suspect that the problem is in Access 2003 rather than with anything in
our AS400.

 

Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, do you have a solution.

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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Fri Apr 15 12:17:42 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:17:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
Message-ID: <200504151717.j3FHHri16735@databaseadvisors.com>

<<Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear in the
detail but not be totalled?>>
Exactly.  Because of the way the report is setup, I need to show the
dupes because a remark column shows different meanings, but the
ErrorAmount field is the same, and I only want a sum total of all the
first instances of the ErrorAmount.

>>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 4/15/2005 1:09:21 PM >>>
Randy
I'd guess that the sum is only summing what's there, so are you saying
you
want duplicates suppressing from the report entirely, and thus from
the
totals? Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear in
the
detail but not be totalled?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Randall R Anthony
> Sent: 15 April 2005 16:48
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
> 
> 
> Hey lIsters,
> My first post with my new address and I think it's easy, I 
> just have to get up to speed.  I have a report that does a 
> sum([ErrorAmount]) at the footer.  ErrorAmount is in the 
> detail line, however there are duplicates which are 
> incorrectly being added to the sum([ErrorAmount]).  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy.
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> 
> 

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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Apr 15 12:23:02 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:23:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F6CD@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Create another grouping for the unique value; then show the detail.  Sum
up only the unique value and blow off the detail. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R
Anthony
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 1:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates

<<Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear in the detail
but not be totalled?>> Exactly.  Because of the way the report is setup,
I need to show the dupes because a remark column shows different
meanings, but the ErrorAmount field is the same, and I only want a sum
total of all the first instances of the ErrorAmount.

>>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 4/15/2005 1:09:21 PM >>>
Randy
I'd guess that the sum is only summing what's there, so are you saying
you want duplicates suppressing from the report entirely, and thus from
the totals? Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear in
the detail but not be totalled?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R 
> Anthony
> Sent: 15 April 2005 16:48
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
> 
> 
> Hey lIsters,
> My first post with my new address and I think it's easy, I just have 
> to get up to speed.  I have a report that does a
> sum([ErrorAmount]) at the footer.  ErrorAmount is in the detail line, 
> however there are duplicates which are incorrectly being added to the 
> sum([ErrorAmount]).  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy.
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Apr 15 12:33:31 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:33:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA3bBp+saefUSwBbDX0qYxvwEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will have
users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option of
creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE.  However,
is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar to
MSDE / SQL Server.

 

Thanks!

Dan Waters

 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 15 12:44:33 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:44:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
Message-ID: <s26019ba.033@cactus.dk>

Hi Dan

At OTN, Oracle Technology Network, you can download every piece of
current Oracle software:

  http://www.oracle.com/technology/index.html 

Requires free registration and all software is full and unlimited.
Be prepared for some huge downloads.

/gustav

>>> dwaters at usinternet.com 04/15 7:33 pm >>>
I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will
have
users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option
of
creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE. 
However,
is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar
to
MSDE / SQL Server.



From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Apr 15 12:49:35 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:49:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA3bBp+saefUSwBbDX0qYxvwEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA3bBp+saefUSwBbDX0qYxvwEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c49505041510493e35ea71@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/lite/index.html

Have a look at Oracle 9i Lite, looks to ba available for download here.

There is also 10g Lite which is the latest and greatest version. 

On 4/15/05, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
> I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will have
> users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option of
> creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE.  However,
> is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar to
> MSDE / SQL Server.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dan Waters
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Apr 15 12:54:45 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:54:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
In-Reply-To: <aea6c49505041510493e35ea71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA3bBp+saefUSwBbDX0qYxvwEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
	<aea6c49505041510493e35ea71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950504151054590483c8@mail.gmail.com>

I guess that lite version is for Mobile applications. Full version of
10G is available here
http://www.oracle.com/database/Standard_Edition.html


On 4/15/05, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/lite/index.html
> 
> Have a look at Oracle 9i Lite, looks to ba available for download here.
> 
> There is also 10g Lite which is the latest and greatest version.
> 
> On 4/15/05, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
> > I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will have
> > users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option of
> > creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE.  However,
> > is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar to
> > MSDE / SQL Server.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Dan Waters
> >
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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Fri Apr 15 13:19:52 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:19:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
Message-ID: <200504151820.j3FIK8i30889@databaseadvisors.com>

I tried that, because the ErrorAmount is listed first in descending
order, and the claimid is listed second with grouping, this suggestion
did not resolve the problem.

>>> cyx5 at cdc.gov 4/15/2005 1:23:02 PM >>>
Create another grouping for the unique value; then show the detail. 
Sum
up only the unique value and blow off the detail. 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R
Anthony
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 1:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates

<<Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear in the
detail
but not be totalled?>> Exactly.  Because of the way the report is
setup,
I need to show the dupes because a remark column shows different
meanings, but the ErrorAmount field is the same, and I only want a sum
total of all the first instances of the ErrorAmount.

>>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 4/15/2005 1:09:21 PM >>>
Randy
I'd guess that the sum is only summing what's there, so are you saying
you want duplicates suppressing from the report entirely, and thus
from
the totals? Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear
in
the detail but not be totalled?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R

> Anthony
> Sent: 15 April 2005 16:48
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
> 
> 
> Hey lIsters,
> My first post with my new address and I think it's easy, I just have

> to get up to speed.  I have a report that does a
> sum([ErrorAmount]) at the footer.  ErrorAmount is in the detail line,

> however there are duplicates which are incorrectly being added to the

> sum([ErrorAmount]).  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy.
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From Dave.Bucher at state.mn.us  Fri Apr 15 13:34:45 2005
From: Dave.Bucher at state.mn.us (Bucher, Dave)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:34:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (Admin Sparky)
Message-ID: <DFE71DA828F48342A3AC388F6681D0D83E8316@DHS10081.mn-dhse.co.dhs>

Was lucky to find this list back in July, 2001, and I rarely miss
reading and learning from it. Thanks so much to all the very smart and
talented people who are regular contributors and dedicate so much time
to helping others. I'll never be the super wiz' that so many of you are,
but many think I am one around this shop, so I don't tell them that I'm
just "good enough, for gov't work."  :)

Dave Bucher
Information Technology Specialist
Children's Research, Planning and Evaluation
Minnesota Department of Human Services



From bgoss711 at ameritech.net  Fri Apr 15 13:58:25 2005
From: bgoss711 at ameritech.net (Bud Goss)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:58:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X Posted
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050415185825.39431.qmail@web81304.mail.yahoo.com>

Do not really understand the first paragraph of your e-mail.
 
 How can I put the table in design view when I am failing to establish the link to the table in the first place?
 
I attempted the solution discussed in your second paragraph. 
 
Went to Tools / Options and cleared out the text box called AutoIndex on Import / Create.

I attempted to establish an ODBC to the AS400 to one of my problem tables.
 
Still had the same error message saying Index already exists. Re-booted my PC and tried again. Still no joy.
 
Appreciate your reply.

Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
Bud,

You didn't say if you actually have more than one index in the tables. To
find out first put the table in Design view. Then open the Index dialog box
by pushing the 'lightening bolt' button. You can delete indexes from here.

To stop this from happening go to Tools|Options and click the Tables tab.
You'll see a field called AutoIndex on Import/Create. Clear everything out
of this field. If something in this field partially matches a name that
you've given to a field, then you'll automatically get an index on that
field. Check Help to get the whole story. 

If you manually created an index for the same field, then you may have two
indexes with the same name.

Perhaps A97 did not have this AutoIndex feature.

HTH!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bud Goss
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 11:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X Posted


Greetings from a long time ACCESSD lurker



I have used the HIT Software Inc with Access 97 databases to establish links
to our AS400 tables for quite a while.



When I attempt to use this software with an Access 2003 database to
establish an ODBC link to our AS400 ( for many - not all - tables ) the
system will not create an ODBC link.



The message I get is Index already exists. Pressing Help gives the message
"Index already exists. (Error 3284)" You cannot have two indexes with the
same name in a table. Rename one of the indexes. 



But I can take the same table and establish an ODBC link with an Access 97
database.



I have attempted to do this on several Access 2003 databases ( Including a
new totaly empty Access 2003 database) and have the same problem.



I have sent HIT Software trace files for this situation.They have not yet
been able to determine the cause of this anomoly.



I suspect that the problem is in Access 2003 rather than with anything in
our AS400.



Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, do you have a solution.

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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Fri Apr 15 14:31:37 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:31:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
Message-ID: <200504151932.j3FJW1i14633@databaseadvisors.com>

Resolved, with code.  Rather than sum the erroramount, I created a field
in the groupheader_format that takes the first instance of each.  Then I
add it to an unbound field in the footer.  Works like a champ.

>>> RRANTHON at sentara.com 4/15/2005 2:19:52 PM >>>
I tried that, because the ErrorAmount is listed first in descending
order, and the claimid is listed second with grouping, this suggestion
did not resolve the problem.

>>> cyx5 at cdc.gov 4/15/2005 1:23:02 PM >>>
Create another grouping for the unique value; then show the detail. 
Sum
up only the unique value and blow off the detail. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R
Anthony
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 1:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates

<<Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear in the
detail
but not be totalled?>> Exactly.  Because of the way the report is
setup,
I need to show the dupes because a remark column shows different
meanings, but the ErrorAmount field is the same, and I only want a sum
total of all the first instances of the ErrorAmount.

>>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 4/15/2005 1:09:21 PM >>>
Randy
I'd guess that the sum is only summing what's there, so are you saying
you want duplicates suppressing from the report entirely, and thus
from
the totals? Or are you saying that you want the duplicates to appear
in
the detail but not be totalled?

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Randall R

> Anthony
> Sent: 15 April 2005 16:48
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: [AccessD] Using Sum to add total without duplicates
> 
> 
> Hey lIsters,
> My first post with my new address and I think it's easy, I just have

> to get up to speed.  I have a report that does a
> sum([ErrorAmount]) at the footer.  ErrorAmount is in the detail
line,

> however there are duplicates which are incorrectly being added to
the

> sum([ErrorAmount]).  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy.
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From pharold at proftesting.com  Fri Apr 15 14:59:05 2005
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry Harold)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:59:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X Posted
In-Reply-To: <20050415163926.17765.qmail@web81309.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005301c541f5$945ddee0$192da8c0@D58BT131Perry>

Do you perhaps have an index set to something generic like Name (rather than
FullName, CustName, EmpName, eg).  If so you might have to make the
connection with A97 and rename the index to a more specific index.  Then
A2003 might allow you to make the connection.  Name, etc have become
reserved terms in many instances and may cause conflicts with indexes in
newer versions.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bud Goss
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 12:39 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X Posted



Greetings from a long time ACCESSD lurker

 

I have used the HIT Software Inc with Access 97 databases to establish links
to our AS400 tables for quite a while.

 

When I attempt to use this software with an Access 2003 database to
establish an ODBC link to our AS400 ( for many - not all -  tables ) the
system will not create an ODBC link.

 

The message I get is Index already exists. Pressing Help gives the message
"Index already exists. (Error 3284)" You cannot have two indexes with the
same name in a table. Rename one of the indexes. 

 

But I can take the same table and establish an ODBC link with an Access 97
database.

 

I have attempted to do this on several Access 2003 databases ( Including a
new totaly empty Access 2003 database) and have the same problem.

 

I have sent HIT Software trace files for this situation.They have not yet
been able to determine the cause of this anomoly.

 

I suspect that the problem is in Access 2003 rather than with anything in
our AS400.

 

Has anyone else run into this problem? If so, do you have a solution.

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From bgoss711 at ameritech.net  Fri Apr 15 16:18:48 2005
From: bgoss711 at ameritech.net (Bud Goss)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:18:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Use if HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003 - X posted
Message-ID: <20050415211848.96167.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com>


Since the original post, I have additional information. Our corporate staff sent me the ?I Series?  (an IBM product) software.

 

I installed this software on my PC, and set up an ?I Series? ODBC link in an Access 2003 database.

 

I still have the same problem. 

 

The same tables that can not be linked in an Access 2003 database  with HIT software in an Access 2003 database also can not be linked using the ?I Series? ODBC product. 

 

These same tables can be linked within an Access 97 database using either product.

 

This is more evidence that the problem is related to something in Access 2003 rather than in the ODBC software.

 

Also, per Perry Harold?s suggestion I checked one of the problem tables and could not find any inappropriate generic names used in any fields indexed or not.



From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Fri Apr 15 16:52:06 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:52:06 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337505@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKGEMHCGAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

yes in a table cell.
again your code is working super.
but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
if you have thought, I would welcome it.


again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
in a table cell.

thanks for the great help.

bob


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function:

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String

  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)

  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp

End Function

Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hey Jim,
Thanks again for the code it works just fine except for when I use it for my
actual project.
When using your code in a table in Word it retrieves the text of interest
okay, but also includes the search string.
After much testing I find this only happens in the table, which of course is
where I need to cull the data from.
I have looked at selection.movestart and some other Word functions to no
avail.
Would you have any ideas?

bob



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Here is some quick and dirty code that opens a Word doc from inside Access,
searches for the string "special code:" and sets a string variable equal to
the sentence that follows the code string. If your documents all have the
same string you can find that string and select words, sentences or
paragraphs that come after it. HTH
Jim Hale

Function LiftText()

Dim wd As Word.Application, strPhrase As String, strFindphrase As String
strFindphrase = "special code:"
Set wd = New Word.Application
wd.Documents.Open "C:\Test.doc"
wd.Visible = True
wd.Selection.Find.ClearFormatting
    With wd.Selection.Find
        .Text = strFindphrase
        .Replacement.Text = ""
        .Forward = True
        .Wrap = wdFindContinue
        .Format = False
        .MatchCase = False
        .MatchWholeWord = False
        .MatchWildcards = False
        .MatchSoundsLike = False
        .MatchAllWordForms = False
    End With
    wd.Selection.Find.Execute
    wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)
    strPhrase = wd.Selection
    MsgBox "Look what I found: " & strPhrase
    wd.ActiveDocument.Close
    wd.Quit
    Set wd = Nothing
End Function

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


sounds good but their tech guy says does not work with Word.

thanks anyway.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Monarch is a good solution. It has an object model that can be programmed
from Access. I use it to extract data from text files directly into Access.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Hello to the list,

I am looking to programmically extract data from about 250 Word docs.
It appears that there are no bookmarks, fields or table structure.

It also looks like all data are in the same place and associated with the
same phrase ahead of the data of interest.

So, if I "find" the proper phrase and capture the text after it, I think
that will do. Issues like how to know when to stop and such will be
interesting.


thots?

best,

bob

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Apr 15 17:18:20 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:18:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233750D@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
of which should do the trick.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


yes in a table cell.
again your code is working super.
but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
if you have thought, I would welcome it.


again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
in a table cell.

thanks for the great help.

bob


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function:

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String

  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)

  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp

End Function

Jim Hale


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From erbachs at gmail.com  Fri Apr 15 17:50:02 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:50:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2000: Inserting HTML codes into a Text Box
In-Reply-To: <425F1CF5.5000004@shaw.ca>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398E@infoserver01.infostat.local>
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Marty,

Nifty! However, the "news" that my client is entering is simply little
announcements about her business: seminars coming up, quotes for the
day, new service offerings, etc.

Steve Erbach

On 4/14/05, MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca> wrote:
> How are you obtaining your news, here is a way I display a raw rss xml
> news feed in Access via new IE window
> You may want to grab my xsl file that does the xslt transform to html
> from website and place on disk.
> 
> Of course it is a lot flashier and easier to grab a news feed with a
> special rss news reader.
> especially when you can drag and drop the feed to your reader via "XML"
> feed icon.
> There are a lot out there like this open source one
> http://www.rssreader.com/


From Jeff at outbaktech.com  Fri Apr 15 17:56:09 2005
From: Jeff at outbaktech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:56:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
Message-ID: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D014B09@belgarion.Outbak.local>

OK, I solved the first issue (see below).  The problem was that I was
sending the * with double quotes, AND appending leading and following
"s.

New Issue, is it possible to send TWO criteria in a Parameter?

Example:

Parameter01 ("ValueA" Or "ValueB")



 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Brett
Barabash
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query

Jeff,

If you use a Like operator instead of an equals sign in your WHERE
clause, you can pass in an asterisk to select all.
For example:

SELECT Employee.FirstName, Employee.LastName
FROM Employee
WHERE Employee.LastName Like [MyNameParameter];

To get a specific employee, you would pass in "Smith", "Jones", etc.  If
you pass "*" as the parameter instead, it will return all records.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:31 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query


Hello Group!!!
 
I am at a client site and I am having a brain dead moment here.
 
I have a form where the user selects the parameters for a report
(query).  I send the Parameter to the query to populate the report.
Here is the problem, what do I send as the parameter if the user wants
to select 'ALL' of the possible values for the Parameter.  I know that I
have seen or done this before, but I can not think of how I did this.
 
Please Help!!
 
TIA
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr 15 18:09:37 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:09:37 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
In-Reply-To: <B7B1803D6973C84F97D412AFCDA8EA7D01D9C91F@2003exchg.TSS.AD>
Message-ID: <4260D651.6368.41DC2A2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 15 Apr 2005 at 11:36, Scott Marcus wrote:

> Shouldn't that be...
> 
> IIf (Instr(fieldA," ")> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." &
> fieldB)
> 
> In-stead-of...
> 
> IIf (Instr(fieldA)> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." & fieldB)
> 

Yes :-(


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Apr 16 01:46:36 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 07:46:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
In-Reply-To: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D014B09@belgarion.Outbak.local>
Message-ID: <000d01c54250$0aaacdb0$7f400c54@minster33c3r25>

No but nothing stopping you having two parameters in the query, ie WHERE x =
[P1] OR x = [P2]

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jeff Barrows
> Sent: 15 April 2005 23:56
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
> 
> 
> OK, I solved the first issue (see below).  The problem was 
> that I was sending the * with double quotes, AND appending 
> leading and following "s.
> 
> New Issue, is it possible to send TWO criteria in a Parameter?
> 
> Example:
> 
> Parameter01 ("ValueA" Or "ValueB")
> 
> 
> 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Brett Barabash
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:06 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> If you use a Like operator instead of an equals sign in your 
> WHERE clause, you can pass in an asterisk to select all. For example:
> 
> SELECT Employee.FirstName, Employee.LastName
> FROM Employee
> WHERE Employee.LastName Like [MyNameParameter];
> 
> To get a specific employee, you would pass in "Smith", 
> "Jones", etc.  If you pass "*" as the parameter instead, it 
> will return all records.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Barrows [mailto:Jeff at outbaktech.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:31 AM
> To: AccessD
> Subject: [AccessD] Sending parameters to a query
> 
> 
> Hello Group!!!
>  
> I am at a client site and I am having a brain dead moment here.
>  
> I have a form where the user selects the parameters for a 
> report (query).  I send the Parameter to the query to 
> populate the report. Here is the problem, what do I send as 
> the parameter if the user wants to select 'ALL' of the 
> possible values for the Parameter.  I know that I have seen 
> or done this before, but I can not think of how I did this.
>  
> Please Help!!
>  
> TIA
>  
> Jeff Barrows
> MCP, MCAD, MCSD
>  
> Outbak Technologies, LLC
> Racine, WI
> jeff at outbaktech.com
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Apr 16 08:51:37 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:51:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
References: <0IEZ0090K4XJG2@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <009501c5428b$691be3d0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

Jim:

The search on the archive page 
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com/archive/archive.htm) doesn't work.  But the 
link  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo  works and from there I 
can get to the archives at http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> Hi Rocky:
>
> I have now managed to get a combination of code to work in FireFox. Test 
> it
> out and if it is still not working get back to me.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:39 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
> Bryan:
>
> DBA site - the go button didn't go.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
>
>> On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
>> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the 
>>> VBA
>
>>> code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago
>>> which I implemented on my old machine.
>>>
>>> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where
>>> to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.
>>
>> Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?
>>
>> Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html
>>
>> It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution
>>
>> -- 
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>> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
>> shouting "What a great ride!"
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Apr 16 08:52:39 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:52:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
References: <015301c53f76$b7c44030$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
	<00f801c540b3$3c82dce0$501865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <009e01c5428b$8dc8c680$6401a8c0@HAL9004>

A.D:

I'll bet that's it.  Thanks for the heads up.  There's probably a better way 
to filter the detail records on the fly.

Regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "A.D.Tejpal" <adtp at touchtelindia.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering


Rocky,

    Under certain situations, the following set of commands are known to 
disturb page numbering.
    MoveLayout
    NextRecord
    PrintSection
    ForceNewPage

    You have confirmed that ForceNewPage is not being used in your report. 
You might now like to scrutinize the other three, wherever occurring. (As a 
test, if you disable these commands, your page numbering should revert to 
normal).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 21:15
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering


  Charlotte:

  No page breaks.  Three sub-reports in the detail section.

  I have the following events :

  Private Sub Detail_Format
  Private Sub Detail_Print
  Private Sub GroupFooter0_Print
  Private Sub Report_NoData
  Private Sub Report_Open
  Private Sub ReportFooter_Format
  Private Sub ReportHeader_Format

  The format events mostly stick things into text boxes.  I do have :

      Me.MoveLayout = False
      Me.NextRecord = True
      Me.PrintSection = False
      Exit Sub

  in a couple of places which get triggered on certain conditions.

  Any clues there?

  Thanks and Regards,

  Rocky Smolin
  Beach Access Software
  http://www.e-z-mrp.com
  858-259-4334

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:25 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering


  > Does it actually print two pages or just one?  I have seen this, but it
  > has been caused by several different things, so you need to fill in the
  > blanks for us.  Do you have any physical page break in the report? Do
  > you have any formatting that breaks before or after a section?
  >
  > Charlotte Foust
  >
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
  > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:12 PM
  > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  > Subject: [AccessD] Strange Report Page Numbering
  >
  >
  > Dear List:
  >
  > I have a one page report and at the bottom it prints Page 1 of 2.  I'm
  > using the standard ="Page " & [Page] & " of " & [Pages] to print the
  > page numbers which was actually generated by the Access report wiz.
  >
  > This has never failed before.
  >
  > Has anyone seen anything like this?
  >
  > MTIA
  >
  > Rocky Smolin
  > Beach Access Software
  > http://www.e-z-mrp.com
  > 858-259-4334
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Apr 16 12:36:07 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:36:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
In-Reply-To: <16691866.1113586798288.JavaMail.root@sniper23>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA4uu2ZzPX3kSdEndTeXHOSQEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Gary & Gustav,

Thanks for this info!  Yes - this is an over 600 Mb download!

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 12:34 PM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?

I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will have
users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option of
creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE.  However,
is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar to
MSDE / SQL Server.

 

Thanks!

Dan Waters

 

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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sat Apr 16 22:12:24 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:12:24 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: SQL to Change a field value based on an input _
	Solved 
Message-ID: <OFC52365B4.ED63E6F9-ONCA256FE6.0011672D@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Ahhh Stuart it was our old friend the date format issue. I have re written
to change date to the correct format and enclose in ## (thanks to some code
Gustav supplied when I first came here and now it works fine ... I should
have thought of Date issues first I guess

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange


Message: 19
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:48:45 -0500
From: Steve Erbach <erbachs at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL to Change a field value based on an input
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
             <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f30504141448124186bf at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Connie,

I don't suppose it's something mundane like the Status field being a
Text field instead of Numeric, is it?

Steve Erbach

On 4/13/05, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au
<connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am trying to write a quick update which will change athe status field
in
> my DB to 1, and the status date to today if a date criteris is met. here
is
> my SQL
>
> UPDATE tblDAuthorityRenewal SET tblDAuthorityRenewal.Status = 1,
> tblDAuthorityRenewal.StatusDate = Date()
> WHERE (((tblDAuthorityRenewal.EndDate)=#11/1/2003#));
>
> except I am passing a parameter into the last bit (of course)
>
> If I run this SQL either directkly or in my form the date changes to
today
> but the status doesn't change ...
>
> Yours in confusion
> Connie Kamrowski
>
> Analyst/Programmer
> Information Technology
> NSW Department of Primary Industries
> Orange


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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sat Apr 16 22:30:17 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:30:17 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] SQL to Change a field value based on an input
Message-ID: <OF261A19FF.93EAFBDA-ONCA256FE6.0013397E@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Ermm I meant Steve

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange


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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sat Apr 16 22:48:11 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:48:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] How to Question - check for duplicates in cascading combo
	boxes
Message-ID: <OFF770372D.3055498D-ONCA256FE6.00143D86@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Hello all

I have a cascading combo box which presents the user with firstly a list of
species on the left and then subsequently a list of sub species on the
right when a species is chosen.

I have to ensure that there are no duplicates of species in this list
unless they have a different sub species. I figured the best way to do this
will be to check for a duplicate species and if there is one then check for
duplicate sub species, if there is then alert the user and set focus to
this duplicate.

I am a little unsure as to the best way to go about this, as they will need
to have chosen a species and a sub species before I do the check should
this be called on the before update of the sub species column? if so there
will already be an entry for species so I will need to delete it as well? I
have attached the code for the combo boxes for the sake of clarifying how
the lists are populated.


Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange


<code> -----------------

Private Sub Species_AfterUpdate()

       Dim db As Database, rs As Recordset
       Dim strDefaultName As String
       Dim IntX As Integer

       If Not IsNull(Me!Species) Then
       IntSpecies = Me!Species

       End If

       Set db = CurrentDb()
       Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("SELECT
[tblCSubSpecies].[SubSpeciesID],[tblCSubSpecies].[SubSpecies],[tblCSubSpecies].[CommonName]"
 _
                              & "FROM [tblCSubSpecies] " _
                              & "WHERE [tblCSubSpecies].[SpeciesID]= " &
IntSpecies & ";")


       IntX = DCount("[SpeciesID]", "tblCSpecies", "[SpeciesID] = " &
IntSpecies & " ")

       Exit Sub

       If Not IsNull(Me.Species) Then
             IntSpecies = Me!Species
             Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = "SELECT DISTINCTROW
[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpecies]&'
('& [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
                                        & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect] " _
                                        & " WHERE
[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID] = " & IntSpecies & ";"
       Else
       End If

Exit_Species_AfterUpdate:
       On Error Resume Next
       If Not (rs Is Nothing) Then rs.Close: Set rs = Nothing
       On Error Resume Next
       If Not (db Is Nothing) Then Set db = Nothing

Exit Sub


End Sub
Private Sub cboSubSpeciesSource()
On Error GoTo Err_cboSubSpeciesSource

        If Not IsNull(Me!Species) Then
            IntSpecies = Me!Species
            Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = " SELECT DISTINCTROW
[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesName]&'
  ('& [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
                            & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect] " _
                            & " WHERE [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID] = "
& IntSpecies & ";"

        Else
        End If
Exit_cboSubSpeciesSource:
Exit Sub

Err_cboSubSpeciesSource:
    Select Case Err
    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
        Resume Next
    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
        Beep
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in function
Form_sfrmLoad.SubSpeciesSource"
    Resume Exit_cboSubSpeciesSource
    End Select
    Resume 0    'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING

End Sub


Private Sub cboSubSpecies_GotFocus()
    If Not IsNull(Me!Species) Then

            IntSpecies = Me!Species
             Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = " SELECT DISTINCTROW
[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpecies]&'
('& [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
                            & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect] " _
                            & " WHERE [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID] = "
& IntSpecies & " ; "
        Else
        End If

        Me.cboSubSpecies.Dropdown
End Sub

Private Sub cboSubSpecies_LostFocus()

            Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = " SELECT
[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpecies]&'  ('&
[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
                            & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect]; "

End Sub

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 17 09:32:19 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:32:19 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How to Question - check for duplicates in cascading
	comboboxes
References: <OFF770372D.3055498D-ONCA256FE6.00143D86@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <003001c5435a$4339b460$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Connie:

When you say "species in this list unless they have a different sub species" 
do you really mean list or duplicate in the database?

When the user selects a species is the sub-species box requeried to present 
only those sub-species which are valid for the selected species?

You probably need to check for duplicates in the after update event of the 
sub-species combo box.  If a duplicate is found tell the user and either use 
Me.Undo to undo all the changes or blank out the species and sub-species 
combo boxes and set the focus to the species box.

HTH

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:48 PM
Subject: [AccessD] How to Question - check for duplicates in cascading 
comboboxes


>
> Hello all
>
> I have a cascading combo box which presents the user with firstly a list 
> of
> species on the left and then subsequently a list of sub species on the
> right when a species is chosen.
>
> I have to ensure that there are no duplicates of species in this list
> unless they have a different sub species. I figured the best way to do 
> this
> will be to check for a duplicate species and if there is one then check 
> for
> duplicate sub species, if there is then alert the user and set focus to
> this duplicate.
>
> I am a little unsure as to the best way to go about this, as they will 
> need
> to have chosen a species and a sub species before I do the check should
> this be called on the before update of the sub species column? if so there
> will already be an entry for species so I will need to delete it as well? 
> I
> have attached the code for the combo boxes for the sake of clarifying how
> the lists are populated.
>
>
> Connie Kamrowski
>
> Analyst/Programmer
> Information Technology
> NSW Department of Primary Industries
> Orange
>
>
> <code> -----------------
>
> Private Sub Species_AfterUpdate()
>
>       Dim db As Database, rs As Recordset
>       Dim strDefaultName As String
>       Dim IntX As Integer
>
>       If Not IsNull(Me!Species) Then
>       IntSpecies = Me!Species
>
>       End If
>
>       Set db = CurrentDb()
>       Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("SELECT
> [tblCSubSpecies].[SubSpeciesID],[tblCSubSpecies].[SubSpecies],[tblCSubSpecies].[CommonName]"
> _
>                              & "FROM [tblCSubSpecies] " _
>                              & "WHERE [tblCSubSpecies].[SpeciesID]= " &
> IntSpecies & ";")
>
>
>       IntX = DCount("[SpeciesID]", "tblCSpecies", "[SpeciesID] = " &
> IntSpecies & " ")
>
>       Exit Sub
>
>       If Not IsNull(Me.Species) Then
>             IntSpecies = Me!Species
>             Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = "SELECT DISTINCTROW
> [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpecies]&'
> ('& [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
>                                        & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect] " _
>                                        & " WHERE
> [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID] = " & IntSpecies & ";"
>       Else
>       End If
>
> Exit_Species_AfterUpdate:
>       On Error Resume Next
>       If Not (rs Is Nothing) Then rs.Close: Set rs = Nothing
>       On Error Resume Next
>       If Not (db Is Nothing) Then Set db = Nothing
>
> Exit Sub
>
>
> End Sub
> Private Sub cboSubSpeciesSource()
> On Error GoTo Err_cboSubSpeciesSource
>
>        If Not IsNull(Me!Species) Then
>            IntSpecies = Me!Species
>            Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = " SELECT DISTINCTROW
> [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesName]&'
>  ('& [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
>                            & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect] " _
>                            & " WHERE [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID] = "
> & IntSpecies & ";"
>
>        Else
>        End If
> Exit_cboSubSpeciesSource:
> Exit Sub
>
> Err_cboSubSpeciesSource:
>    Select Case Err
>    Case 0      'insert Errors you wish to ignore here
>        Resume Next
>    Case Else   'All other errors will trap
>        Beep
>        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in function
> Form_sfrmLoad.SubSpeciesSource"
>    Resume Exit_cboSubSpeciesSource
>    End Select
>    Resume 0    'FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
>
> End Sub
>
>
> Private Sub cboSubSpecies_GotFocus()
>    If Not IsNull(Me!Species) Then
>
>            IntSpecies = Me!Species
>             Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = " SELECT DISTINCTROW
> [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpecies]&'
> ('& [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
>                            & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect] " _
>                            & " WHERE [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID] = "
> & IntSpecies & " ; "
>        Else
>        End If
>
>        Me.cboSubSpecies.Dropdown
> End Sub
>
> Private Sub cboSubSpecies_LostFocus()
>
>            Me!cboSubSpecies.RowSource = " SELECT
> [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SpeciesID],[qrySubSpeciesSelect].[SubSpecies]&' 
> ('&
> [qrySubSpeciesSelect].[CommonName]&')' " _
>                            & " FROM [qrySubSpeciesSelect]; "
>
> End Sub
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 17 09:56:29 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:56:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA3bBp+saefUSwBbDX0qYxvwEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <0IF30090QIU5N8@l-daemon>

Hi Dan:

You can download a fully operation personal copy of Oracle (a number of
different version are available) and can use that to play with.

HTH
Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:34 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?

I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will have
users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option of
creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE.  However,
is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar to
MSDE / SQL Server.

 

Thanks!

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 17 09:56:01 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:56:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA4uu2ZzPX3kSdEndTeXHOSQEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <42627901.4020700@shaw.ca>

Just an additional question there are 4 ODBC and OLEDB Providers, from 
Oracle and MS
anyone got a suggestion which is best for an Access FE connection.

Dan Waters wrote:

>Gary & Gustav,
>
>Thanks for this info!  Yes - this is an over 600 Mb download!
>
>Dan Waters
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 12:34 PM
>To: Database Advisors
>Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
>
>I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will have
>users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option of
>creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE.  However,
>is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar to
>MSDE / SQL Server.
>
> 
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dan Waters
>
> 
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 17 10:04:31 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 08:04:31 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <009501c5428b$691be3d0$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <0IF300E06J7J5P@l-daemon>

Hi Rocky:

Which browser are you having problems with? I have tested it on both MSE and
FireFox and it works as intended. Please clear out the cache on your
computer, as it may be using the initial page and try again.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 6:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again

Jim:

The search on the archive page 
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com/archive/archive.htm) doesn't work.  But the

link  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo  works and from there I 
can get to the archives at http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> Hi Rocky:
>
> I have now managed to get a combination of code to work in FireFox. Test 
> it
> out and if it is still not working get back to me.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:39 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
> Bryan:
>
> DBA site - the go button didn't go.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
>
>> On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
>> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the 
>>> VBA
>
>>> code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago
>>> which I implemented on my old machine.
>>>
>>> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where
>>> to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.
>>
>> Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?
>>
>> Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html
>>
>> It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution
>>
>> -- 
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>> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
>> shouting "What a great ride!"
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 17 10:28:28 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:28:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How to Question - check for duplicates in cascading
	comboboxes
In-Reply-To: <OFF770372D.3055498D-ONCA256FE6.00143D86@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <20050417152832.NOTE2054.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Won't adding DISTINCT do the trick? Or is there more to the problem?

Susan H. 


Hello all


I have to ensure that there are no duplicates of species in this list unless
they have a different sub species. I figured the best way to do this will be
to check for a duplicate species and if there is one then check for
duplicate sub species, if there is then alert the user and set focus to this
duplicate.



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 17 13:42:58 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:42:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Info Printing various files from Shell command
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA863129BE@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <4262AE32.6010507@shaw.ca>

I came across this site when I was looking for a method to print tiff 
files from Access.
This is a list of print association methods and their calls that can be 
used from Shell
to print on your default printer like fdf pdf txt psd png etc.
These guys produce a good batch print scheduler.

http://www.traction-software.co.uk/batchprint/associations.htm

For example to print a list of tiff files.

Sub testprinttiff()
Dim filepath As String
filepath = "C:\Temp\VS.tif"
Shell ("C:\Program Files\IrfanView\I_VIEW32.EXE " & filepath & " /print")
End Sub

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 17 15:38:38 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:38:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] about certification
Message-ID: <20050417203840.NRGU2063.imf21aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/offers/2ndshot/
 
=======I know we've discussed the benefits of certification a few times --
here's an interesting offer straight from MS -- if you take and fail a
certification exam before May 31, you can retake it free -- but only if you
register first. 
 
Read through the offer, but didn't see any obvious gotcha's. 
 
Susan H. 


From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Sun Apr 17 17:41:04 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:41:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] How to Question - check for duplicates in cascading
	comboboxes
Message-ID: <OF82B8828B.10028005-ONCA256FE6.007C19E4@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Sorry Guys

Further clarification

Yep its a no duplicates on the database record ie. they can have duplicate
of species but only with different subspecies.

So if I have chosen a morelia spilota as the species and verigata as a sub
species I can chose morelia spilota again but only with a different sub
species say imbracata, or no sub species at all.

So when the user chooses morelia spilota I firstly need to check if it is
already in the database as a species for this record, then if it is then
check if it contains a sub species. Then if the user chooses a sub species
I need to check if the sub species is the same as the one already chosen.

Does that make it any clearer or have a confused it more?


Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange



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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Apr 17 19:35:17 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:35:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNKEOEDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
References: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNKEOEDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <426300C5.9040305@rogers.com>

I second that emotion! I'm currently doing a thing called JUMP, which is 
a program to teach mathematically challenged kids to do expert math. The 
program works. Autistic kids remain a challenge, but short of that I can 
now teach a 7-year-old to pass a grade-11 math exam in two months. The 
program is fabulous. I don't get paid a cent for my time, but seeing 
kids suddenly understand is the greatest reward I've ever experienced.

I did the typical silly "one-sided-piece-of-paper" thing for a group of 
girls about 8-10 years old the other day. (If you don't know what that 
means, take a slice about an inch wide from a newspaper page, fold it 
once and tape the ends together.) The proof that this piece of paper now 
has only one side is demonstrated as follows.

Take the loop and place a pen on its girth. Have a student slide the 
loop under the pen. Eventually your pen-mark will arrive at its origin. 
Therefore the piece of paper has only one side.

Then it gets interesting, and you should have seen the looks of 
question, awe and inspiration on the girls' faces. Cut the loop 
lengthwise and what do you get? Cut it again lengthwise and what do you 
get? Invite them to anticipate the result before we actually make the 
cut. Then we verify the various conjectures.

I don't get a penny for this, but I've had more fun doing this since 
playing soccer in Grade six, when I scored three goals in one game.

Jim Dettman wrote:

>Dian,
>
><< I do volunteer work to help women in a
>shelter prepare for a better life, I'm helping a friend write a curriculum
>to teach kids how to use the MS Office (including Access) suite...and I
>maintain my 'baby dbs'...when someone asks for help.>>
>
>  Sounds like your being "brilliant" to me.  I believe that the noblest
>pursuit in life is to help others without real benefit to yourself.
>
>Jim.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Dian
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:30 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
>
>
>Wow....what am I doing now...in this group, feel like I should come up with
>something brilliant...but, I can't. I do volunteer work to help women in a
>shelter prepare for a better life, I'm helping a friend write a curriculum
>to teach kids how to use the MS Office (including Access) suite...and I
>maintain my 'baby dbs'...when someone asks for help. I am retired and a bit
>lazy...I basically do what I want to do. Oh, and reading the messages in
>here is the first thing I do when I have a chance...
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:57 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
>
>Wow...thank you. ;)
>
>What are you doing right now -- Access-wise.
>
>Susan H.
>
>Susan, thank you...but, you had no way of knowing...and your books (several
>of them, actually) have helped me survive all the worst of it. I'm a major
>fan. Thank you again...
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 17 19:53:30 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:53:30 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
In-Reply-To: <426300C5.9040305@rogers.com>
References: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNKEOEDHAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <426391AA.19131.EC98850@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 17 Apr 2005 at 20:35, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I second that emotion! I'm currently doing a thing called JUMP, which is 
> a program to teach mathematically challenged kids to do expert math. The 
> program works. Autistic kids remain a challenge, but short of that I can 
> now teach a 7-year-old to pass a grade-11 math exam in two months. The 
> program is fabulous. I don't get paid a cent for my time, but seeing 
> kids suddenly understand is the greatest reward I've ever experienced.
> 
> I did the typical silly "one-sided-piece-of-paper" thing for a group of 
> girls about 8-10 years old the other day. (If you don't know what that 
> means, take a slice about an inch wide from a newspaper page, fold it 
> once and tape the ends together.) 

aka a Moebius strip, named after a 19th century mathematician and 
astronomer.

>  Cut the loop 
> lengthwise and what do you get? Cut it again lengthwise and what do you get?

Paradromic rings :-)






-- 
Stuart




From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Apr 17 21:50:32 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:50:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A9013CF087@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

<big big Grin>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Saturday, 9 April 2005 3:41 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?

I haven't yet.... <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Yea but we've forgiven him  ;-)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: 08 April 2005 17:10
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> Which reminds me, just as an FYI to the list, the archives I'm hosting

> have not been updated since October, roughly around the time since I 
> was hit by that drunk driver.  We were in the middle of moving to 
> Active Directory, and we demoted our Exchange Server from being a 
> Domain Controller.
> Since then, the original 'archive' code I wrote hasn't been working.  
> I'm finishing up a little pet project at the moment, when that's done,

> I'm going to modify the archive code to let it catch up and start 
> updating again.
> 
> Drew
> 
> P.S.--  It was Darren Dick who dragged me to this list, by the way! 
> <grin>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> :o)
> 
> I had been archiving all emails until Drew offered to develop a 
> searchable web interface and requested old archives. I contacted him 
> and sent him everything I had. After that I gave up my whole archiving

> habits and depended on Drew's!
> 
> Gladly too. Using Outlook I had just released a huge pile of hard 
> drive space! (Which back then was a little more valuable.)
> 
> Now, every now and then I go through the topics and try to catch up 
> and then I delete everything 3 months or older.
> :o)
> 
> I really can't remember exactly when I got on the list but I think it 
> was 1999. There haven't been any names mentioned that I don't remember

> seeing on the list except Dev Ashish. I don't think he ever posted 
> anything here since I've been on but I could certainly be mistaken.
> 
> 
> John B.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Erwin Craps - IT Helps
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:51 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
> I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not 
> archived the E-mails, probably a year or so.
> 
> I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived 
> E-mails? I now have 111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
> :-)
> 
> Erwin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> John W. Colby
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: 
> [AccessD] OT: FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at 
> Rockie's house in Del Mar, CA.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kathryn Bassett
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] 
> OT: Finally MadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> 
> Mark A Matte asked:
> > This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
> > all list members...It would be interesting to see how long 
> people have
> 
> > actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
> > 1999.
> 
> John W. Colby:
> > I found the list in July of 1997.
> 
> Kathryn Bassett:
> I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.
> 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 17 23:25:16 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:25:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
References: <0IF300E06J7J5P@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <012801c543ce$9f919790$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Jim:

Cache?  Oh. Yeah.  Cache. (D'oh!)

OK!  Working now (just hit the reload button).  I'm on Firefox.

Thanks.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 8:04 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> Hi Rocky:
>
> Which browser are you having problems with? I have tested it on both MSE 
> and
> FireFox and it works as intended. Please clear out the cache on your
> computer, as it may be using the initial page and try again.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 6:52 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
> Jim:
>
> The search on the archive page
> (http://www.databaseadvisors.com/archive/archive.htm) doesn't work.  But 
> the
>
> link  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo  works and from there I
> can get to the archives at http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
>
>> Hi Rocky:
>>
>> I have now managed to get a combination of code to work in FireFox. Test
>> it
>> out and if it is still not working get back to me.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
>> Beach Access Software
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:39 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>>
>> Bryan:
>>
>> DBA site - the go button didn't go.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at gmail.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
>>> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> Dear List:
>>>>
>>>> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the
>>>> VBA
>>
>>>> code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time 
>>>> ago
>>>> which I implemented on my old machine.
>>>>
>>>> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where
>>>> to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.
>>>
>>> Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?
>>>
>>> Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html
>>>
>>> It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
>>> Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
>>> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
>>> shouting "What a great ride!"
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 17 23:29:29 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:29:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How to Question - check for duplicates in
	cascadingcomboboxes
References: <OF82B8828B.10028005-ONCA256FE6.007C19E4@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <013301c543cf$3648d040$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Connie:

Sounds like you've actually got it figured out.  I'd use the After Update 
event of the sub-species combo box to see if they're trying to create a 
record that already exists.  I'd open the recordset with the 
species/sub-species fields and use .FindFirst.  Then use .NoMatch to see if 
it found a match.  If .NoMatch is false that means it found a match so you 
want to display a message and then I think Me.Undo will get rid of the 
duplicate record, but that would have to be tested.

You can also test for the duplicate with DCount but domain functions are 
pretty slow if the table is big or it's over a network.

HTH,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 3:41 PM
Subject: [AccessD] How to Question - check for duplicates in 
cascadingcomboboxes


>
> Sorry Guys
>
> Further clarification
>
> Yep its a no duplicates on the database record ie. they can have duplicate
> of species but only with different subspecies.
>
> So if I have chosen a morelia spilota as the species and verigata as a sub
> species I can chose morelia spilota again but only with a different sub
> species say imbracata, or no sub species at all.
>
> So when the user chooses morelia spilota I firstly need to check if it is
> already in the database as a species for this record, then if it is then
> check if it contains a sub species. Then if the user chooses a sub species
> I need to check if the sub species is the same as the one already chosen.
>
> Does that make it any clearer or have a confused it more?
>
>
> Connie Kamrowski
>
> Analyst/Programmer
> Information Technology
> NSW Department of Primary Industries
> Orange
>
>
>
> This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain
> confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient or 
> received
> it in error, please delete the message and notify sender. Views expressed
> are those of the individual sender and are not necessarily the views of
> their organisation.
>
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 17 23:36:22 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:36:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
Message-ID: <014a01c543d0$2c4b2d30$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

Is there a difference in how the On Click event works for a command button versus a label in Access 2003.

I had a form that was working with command buttons.  But the gray command buttons are ugly.  So I substituted a label and put the code from the command button behind the label.  

When you click this button (or label) it opens another form, makes the calling for invisible until the called form closes:

            DoCmd.OpenForm "frmActivitiesInBed"
            Me.Visible = False
            Do While SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm, "frmActivitiesInBed") <> 0
               DoEvents
            Loop

This works real well when in a command button On Click but when it's called in a label's On Click, the system totally hangs with 100% CPU usage.  

Another curious symptom: If I alt-Tab away from the app window while it's froze, and back again, it unfreezes the app.  

Does this sound familiar to anybody?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 18 00:41:24 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:41:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
In-Reply-To: <42627901.4020700@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0IF400GH4NSYFU@l-daemon>

Hi Marty:

The connection string I use is:

    gstrConnection = "Provider=msdaora;" & _
                        "Data Source=MyDatabase;" & _
                        "User Id=" & myUsername & ";" & _
                        "Password=" & myPassword 

It works fine for 8 and 9i

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 7:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?

Just an additional question there are 4 ODBC and OLEDB Providers, from 
Oracle and MS
anyone got a suggestion which is best for an Access FE connection.

Dan Waters wrote:

>Gary & Gustav,
>
>Thanks for this info!  Yes - this is an over 600 Mb download!
>
>Dan Waters
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 12:34 PM
>To: Database Advisors
>Subject: [AccessD] 'Development' Oracle BE?
>
>I may have an opportunity to create a system for a company that will have
>users around the country on their WAN.  I'd like to offer the option of
>creating their application using an Access FE with an Oracle BE.  However,
>is there a version of Oracle that I could use to develop with?  Similar to
>MSDE / SQL Server.
>
> 
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dan Waters
>
> 
>
>  
>

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Apr 18 00:46:38 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:46:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
In-Reply-To: <0IF300E06J7J5P@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <0IF400G6VO1OBH@l-daemon>

Hi Rocky:

The code has been fixed. I was using FireFox version .8 and the code worked
fine. It was not until I updated to version 1.0 that things fell apart.
Bryan had done some research and came up the answer. From now on when using
javascript the code, in FireFox, must be written out in full. It is more
correct but I wish something had been posted on their site to that effect.

Anyway it now works.... so check it out.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 8:05 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again

Hi Rocky:

Which browser are you having problems with? I have tested it on both MSE and
FireFox and it works as intended. Please clear out the cache on your
computer, as it may be using the initial page and try again.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 6:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again

Jim:

The search on the archive page 
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com/archive/archive.htm) doesn't work.  But the

link  http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo  works and from there I 
can get to the archives at http://databaseadvisors.com/pipermail/accessd/.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again


> Hi Rocky:
>
> I have now managed to get a combination of code to work in FireFox. Test 
> it
> out and if it is still not working get back to me.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:39 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
> Bryan:
>
> DBA site - the go button didn't go.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Carbonnell" <carbonnb at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scroll Wheel again
>
>
>> On Apr 12, 2005 11:30 AM, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
>> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> Got a new machine and of course the scroll wheel does not work in the 
>>> VBA
>
>>> code window.  I remember a fix for this posted on the list some time ago
>>> which I implemented on my old machine.
>>>
>>> I'm having trouble getting to the archives.  Does anyone remember where
>>> to download the fix or can someone help me get to the archives.
>>
>> Which archive Rocky? Drew's or the one on DBAs site?
>>
>> Anyway, here is a link to the post I think you are talking about:
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/htdig/accessd/2004-August/026758.html
>>
>> It points to MSKB article 837910 for the solution
>>
>> -- 
>> Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
>> Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
>> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
>> shouting "What a great ride!"
>> -- 
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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr 18 01:28:53 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:28:53 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Size of an Email String
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A9013CF219@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hello all
I am building a string of email addresses to include in the BCC field of
an outlook email message

I have discovered if I have about 400 recipients then the email ends up
in my drafts folder ready to go
With a big long BCC string - So far so good - The string length of all
the emails is about 6000 characters ~+or-
When there is approx 400 Email addresses

But as soon as I get above that (Say 500 or even 1,100 email addresses)
the email does not appear in the drafts folder
The string length with 1100 email addresses is about 24,000 characters
~+or-

I am thinking there is some limit to the number of characters in
Outlook's BCC field 
Does anyone know about this?
Or can anyone point me in the direction of an answer?

Many thanks

Darren


From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr 18 01:35:35 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:35:35 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] FW: A2003:Size of an Email String SOLVED
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A9013CF226@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hello all
Never mind
Found the answer at...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;149217

See ya

DD



-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Dick 
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2005 4:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: A2003:Size of an Email String

Hello all
I am building a string of email addresses to include in the BCC field of
an outlook email message

I have discovered if I have about 400 recipients then the email ends up
in my drafts folder ready to go With a big long BCC string - So far so
good - The string length of all the emails is about 6000 characters
~+or- When there is approx 400 Email addresses

But as soon as I get above that (Say 500 or even 1,100 email addresses)
the email does not appear in the drafts folder The string length with
1100 email addresses is about 24,000 characters ~+or-

I am thinking there is some limit to the number of characters in
Outlook's BCC field Does anyone know about this?
Or can anyone point me in the direction of an answer?

Many thanks

Darren


From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr 18 01:44:30 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:44:30 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Linking to a Microsoft Access Table to create a
	Dist. List in Outlook - Bit OT
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A9013CF231@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Cross Posted to Sue and Dmitry's list

Hello all
I have a temp table in Microsoft Access that gets cleared and
re-populated with email addresses based on my End-Users selections.

What I want to know is - Is it possible for me to create a Distribution
list, call it...MSAccessEmailAddresses, that is linked to this
particular temp table in a particular MS AccessdB?

If it is possible can you please point me to whare I have to go or what
I have to do?

Many thanks in advance

Darren


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Mon Apr 18 03:42:55 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:42:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] FW: A2003:Size of an Email String SOLVED
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A38@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Please note that the SMTP server that you will use will probably deny
that quantity of adresses in 1 mail.

It really depends on who manages your SMTP server, some limit to 50
adresses some 999.

Please check with your company IT manager if you have your own SMTP
server or with your internet provider if one used from the ISP.

Erwin

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] FW: A2003:Size of an Email String SOLVED

Hello all
Never mind
Found the answer at...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;149217

See ya

DD



-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Dick
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2005 4:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: A2003:Size of an Email String

Hello all
I am building a string of email addresses to include in the BCC field of
an outlook email message

I have discovered if I have about 400 recipients then the email ends up
in my drafts folder ready to go With a big long BCC string - So far so
good - The string length of all the emails is about 6000 characters
~+or- When there is approx 400 Email addresses

But as soon as I get above that (Say 500 or even 1,100 email addresses)
the email does not appear in the drafts folder The string length with
1100 email addresses is about 24,000 characters ~+or-

I am thinking there is some limit to the number of characters in
Outlook's BCC field Does anyone know about this?
Or can anyone point me in the direction of an answer?

Many thanks

Darren
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Apr 18 05:53:41 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:53:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Size of an Email String
In-Reply-To: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A9013CF219@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <42641E55.28077.10EF02B2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 18 Apr 2005 at 16:28, Darren Dick wrote:

> 
> I have discovered if I have about 400 recipients then the email ends up
> in my drafts folder ready to go
> With a big long BCC string - So far so good - The string length of all
> the emails is about 6000 characters ~+or-
> When there is approx 400 Email addresses
> 
> But as soon as I get above that (Say 500 or even 1,100 email addresses)
> the email does not appear in the drafts folder

 Note that RFC 2821 only requires a server to accept 100 recipients.  If 
your list is greater than that, it is quite possible that only the first 
100 will be accepted/delivered by your mail server. Some ISPs are also 
imposing limits below this, in contravention of the RFC, to try to control 
spam runs.

You have a couple of options, one is to send the email with only 100 
recipients each time (a so called "fan-out"). The other is to build your 
messages and send them one at a time by shelling out to a command line 
mailer such as Blat.  I've got a couple of Access apps that use Blat to 
send out 2-3000 emails.

If you want more info on using Blat with Access, contact me off-list.





-- 
Stuart




From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Mon Apr 18 10:08:38 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:08:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233750D@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKKEJECJAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Thanks Jim
I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
documents.
it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.

your help was fantastic.

bob



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
of which should do the trick.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


yes in a table cell.
again your code is working super.
but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
if you have thought, I would welcome it.


again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
in a table cell.

thanks for the great help.

bob


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function:

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String

  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)

  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp

End Function

Jim Hale


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 18 10:42:54 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:42:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I've never found that to be true, Rocky, and I have used labels as light
weight "buttons" in several recent versions of Access.  What does the
declaration for the procedure look like?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:36 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;


Dear List:

Is there a difference in how the On Click event works for a command
button versus a label in Access 2003.

I had a form that was working with command buttons.  But the gray
command buttons are ugly.  So I substituted a label and put the code
from the command button behind the label.  

When you click this button (or label) it opens another form, makes the
calling for invisible until the called form closes:

            DoCmd.OpenForm "frmActivitiesInBed"
            Me.Visible = False
            Do While SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm,
"frmActivitiesInBed") <> 0
               DoEvents
            Loop

This works real well when in a command button On Click but when it's
called in a label's On Click, the system totally hangs with 100% CPU
usage.  

Another curious symptom: If I alt-Tab away from the app window while
it's froze, and back again, it unfreezes the app.  

Does this sound familiar to anybody?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Apr 18 10:49:11 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:49:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3A8@main2.marlow.com>

I might eventually......

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Dick [mailto:D.Dick at uws.edu.au]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:51 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


<big DEFANGED_big DEFANGED_Grin>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Saturday, 9 April 2005 3:41 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?

I haven't yet.... <grin>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Lacey [mailto:andy at minstersystems.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?


Yea but we've forgiven him  ;-)

-- Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> DWUTKA at marlow.com
> Sent: 08 April 2005 17:10
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> Which reminds me, just as an FYI to the list, the archives I'm hosting

> have not been updated since October, roughly around the time since I 
> was hit by that drunk driver.  We were in the middle of moving to 
> Active Directory, and we demoted our Exchange Server from being a 
> Domain Controller.
> Since then, the original 'archive' code I wrote hasn't been working.  
> I'm finishing up a little pet project at the moment, when that's done,

> I'm going to modify the archive code to let it catch up and start 
> updating again.
> 
> Drew
> 
> P.S.--  It was Darren Dick who dragged me to this list, by the way! 
> <grin>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> :o)
> 
> I had been archiving all emails until Drew offered to develop a 
> searchable web interface and requested old archives. I contacted him 
> and sent him everything I had. After that I gave up my whole archiving

> habits and depended on Drew's!
> 
> Gladly too. Using Outlook I had just released a huge pile of hard 
> drive space! (Which back then was a little more valuable.)
> 
> Now, every now and then I go through the topics and try to catch up 
> and then I delete everything 3 months or older.
> :o)
> 
> I really can't remember exactly when I got on the list but I think it 
> was 1999. There haven't been any names mentioned that I don't remember

> seeing on the list except Dev Ashish. I don't think he ever posted 
> anything here since I've been on but I could certainly be mistaken.
> 
> 
> John B.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Erwin Craps - IT Helps
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:51 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] RE: When did you arrive at AccessD?
> 
> 
> The oldest E-mail I seem to find is from 2 jan 2001.
> I'm longer a member because in the beginning I did not 
> archived the E-mails, probably a year or so.
> 
> I'm not the oldest but Mayabe I have the most archived 
> E-mails? I now have 111,481 E-mails in my AccessD folder...
> :-)
> 
> Erwin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> John W. Colby
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:10 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: 
> [AccessD] OT: FinallyMadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> And Kathryn attended the very first AccessD conference at 
> Rockie's house in Del Mar, CA.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com 
> 
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kathryn Bassett
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: When did you arrive at AccessD? (was RE: [AccessD] 
> OT: Finally MadeIt - Thanks)
> 
> 
> Mark A Matte asked:
> > This does bring a thought though...is there a list on the website of
> > all list members...It would be interesting to see how long 
> people have
> 
> > actually been using Accessd.  I've used this group religiously since
> > 1999.
> 
> John W. Colby:
> > I found the list in July of 1997.
> 
> Kathryn Bassett:
> I still have my Welcome message - 7 Aug 1998.
> 
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Apr 18 10:53:35 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:53:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Scrape Word
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337511@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Whatever it takes to get the job done! Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


Thanks Jim
I finally just ran the job as it took about 4 hours to process 256
documents.
it is a one time deal and the customer needed to have the results.

your help was fantastic.

bob



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


I'll look at it some more on Monday. You might examine the selection object
in the Word application. It has numerous properties and methods one or more
of which should do the trick.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Heygood [mailto:bheygood at abestsystems.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


yes in a table cell.
again your code is working super.
but only grabs the first word, sometimes there is more than one word in the
cell, and I would like to capture all of them.
if you have thought, I would welcome it.


again I tried to manipulate the code further but it acts very erratic when
in a table cell.

thanks for the great help.

bob


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Scrape Word


So the data you want (including the search string) is in a table cell? In
the code I sent you delete
   wd.Selection.Start = wd.Selection.End
   Call wd.Selection.EndOf(wdSentence, wdExtend)

and replace with
   wd.Selection.Next(Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1).Select

Or if the entire string is returned you can replace the search string with
an empty string "" using the following function:

Function ReplaceString(strTextIn As String, strFind As String, strReplace As
String, fCaseSensitive As Boolean) As String

  Dim strTmp As String
  Dim intPos As Integer
  Dim intCaseSensitive As Integer

  intCaseSensitive = IIf(fCaseSensitive, 2, 1)

  strTmp = strTextIn
  intPos = InStr(1, strTmp, strFind, intCaseSensitive)

  Do While intPos > 0
    strTmp = Left$(strTmp, intPos - 1) & strReplace & Mid$(strTmp, intPos +
Len(strFind))
    intPos = InStr(intPos + Len(strReplace), strTmp, strFind,
intCaseSensitive)
  Loop

  ReplaceString = strTmp

End Function

Jim Hale


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Apr 18 11:08:49 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:08:49 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
Message-ID: <20050418160846.52C542559C4@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Afternoon all, how's things?

Can someone help dense old me? I can't figure out how to do this.

I have 3 tables, structure of each is Code1, Code2, Qty (I'm simplifying).
Example data:

tbl1
----
A    B  36
A    B  45
B    B  21
B    C  22

tbl2
-----
A    A  9
B    B  12

tbl3
----
A    B  7
B    D  3

What I want as output is the total qty for each unique pair of Code1 and
Code2, ie

A    A  9
A    B  88
B    B  33
B    C  22
B    D  3

I started by writing a query for each table to sum qty by Code1 and Code2
then began to do a UNION query and stopped there cos I can't see how I sum
or Group across the 3 original queries in my UNION query. So I must have
started wrong but I've got a senior moment or something cos I can't see it.

Can someone please help me out?

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr 18 11:09:41 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:09:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687398F@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <00de01c54431$076f5430$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Charlotte:

It's just: Private Sub cmdContinue_Click()

in that procedure there's a call to:

' get next question
    strNext = GetNextQuestion

and those lines of code appear in the GetNextQuestion function.

Normally GetNextQuestion returns the next question in the assessment, but 
there are several charts in the assessment - dieases, sleeping pills, 
medications, relaxations techniques, activities in bed, etc. - which contain 
a bunch of check boxes.

When they are loaded, instead of closing the main assessment form, I just 
make it invisible and use that SysCmd function to know when the chart form 
closes.

Do you think using the IsLoaded property of the AllForms collection might 
make a difference?  Shouldn't but who knows.  After all, it's Access.

TIA

Rocky



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;


> I've never found that to be true, Rocky, and I have used labels as light
> weight "buttons" in several recent versions of Access.  What does the
> declaration for the procedure look like?
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:36 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Is there a difference in how the On Click event works for a command
> button versus a label in Access 2003.
>
> I had a form that was working with command buttons.  But the gray
> command buttons are ugly.  So I substituted a label and put the code
> from the command button behind the label.
>
> When you click this button (or label) it opens another form, makes the
> calling for invisible until the called form closes:
>
>            DoCmd.OpenForm "frmActivitiesInBed"
>            Me.Visible = False
>            Do While SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm,
> "frmActivitiesInBed") <> 0
>               DoEvents
>            Loop
>
> This works real well when in a command button On Click but when it's
> called in a label's On Click, the system totally hangs with 100% CPU
> usage.
>
> Another curious symptom: If I alt-Tab away from the app window while
> it's froze, and back again, it unfreezes the app.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anybody?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr 18 12:00:01 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:00:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Current number of locks
Message-ID: <010001c54438$0fba4490$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

Is there a way to display the current number of locks being used out of the total Max Locks per file?

MTIA,

is


From jmhla at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 18 13:06:02 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:06:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
Message-ID: <200504181805.j3II5si29604@databaseadvisors.com>

I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.

 

Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of any
reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year

 

Thanks

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 



From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Mon Apr 18 13:52:40 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:22:40 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
References: <20050418160846.52C542559C4@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <017701c54447$e2226980$5b1865cb@winxp>

Andy,

    Totals query named Q_Andy2, given below, should get you the desired result. It uses union query named Q_Andy1 as its source.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

Q_Andy2 (Final Query - Totals Query)
==================================
SELECT [Code1] & [Code2] AS Code, Sum(Q_Andy1.Qty) AS SumOfQty
FROM Q_Andy1
GROUP BY [Code1] & [Code2];
==================================

Q_Andy1 (Preliminary Query - Union type)
==================================
Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy1 
Union ALL 
Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy2 
UNION ALL 
Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy3;
==================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andy Lacey 
  To: Dba 
  Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 21:38
  Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this


  Afternoon all, how's things?

  Can someone help dense old me? I can't figure out how to do this.

  I have 3 tables, structure of each is Code1, Code2, Qty (I'm simplifying).
  Example data:

  tbl1
  ----
  A    B  36
  A    B  45
  B    B  21
  B    C  22

  tbl2
  -----
  A    A  9
  B    B  12

  tbl3
  ----
  A    B  7
  B    D  3

  What I want as output is the total qty for each unique pair of Code1 and Code2, ie

  A    A  9
  A    B  88
  B    B  33
  B    C  22
  B    D  3

  I started by writing a query for each table to sum qty by Code1 and Code2 then began to do a UNION query and stopped there cos I can't see how I sum or Group across the 3 original queries in my UNION query. So I must have started wrong but I've got a senior moment or something cos I can't see it.

  Can someone please help me out?

  --
  Andy Lacey
  http://www.minstersystems.co.uk


From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Apr 18 13:23:19 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:23:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] add a number in between
References: <4260D651.6368.41DC2A2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <002501c54449$b5475720$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello Stuart and Scott,

thanks for the help.
The sql does what i need.

Pedro



----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problemsolving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:09 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] add a number in between


> On 15 Apr 2005 at 11:36, Scott Marcus wrote:
>
> > Shouldn't that be...
> >
> > IIf (Instr(fieldA," ")> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." &
> > fieldB)
> >
> > In-stead-of...
> >
> > IIf (Instr(fieldA)> 0,....previous function...,fieldA & "." & fieldB)
> >
>
> Yes :-(
>
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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Apr 18 14:05:10 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:05:10 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
Message-ID: <002601c54449$b5cc65a0$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

i have a backend database that has a linked table from another database, that is made by a firm (No adjustments can be made in the original table).

How can i change the tables name, the name of the ID field and the datatype in number in the linked table.

Pedro Janssen


From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 18 14:14:42 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:14:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
In-Reply-To: <200504181805.j3II5si29604@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNKEOPDIAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Joe,

  It depends if you use your connection a lot.  DSL performance is about
half that of cable in general.  It is also dependent on your distance from
the phone company's POP (Point of Presence).

  If that's not a major issue for you, then save some money.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.



Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of any
reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year



Thanks



Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

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From mikedorism at adelphia.net  Mon Apr 18 14:20:55 2005
From: mikedorism at adelphia.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:20:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Linking SQL Server to Acrobat
Message-ID: <000a01c5444b$c241df20$0b08a845@hargrove.internal>

We have some templates we use in our Graphics Department.  Right now, the
job information is manually entered by the detailer but we would like to
automate this process.  Has anyone done this before?  Any hints, pitfalls,
or black holes we need to watch out for?

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com





From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Mon Apr 18 14:35:59 2005
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:35:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
In-Reply-To: <200504181805.j3II5si29604@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <002801c5444d$d9ac1070$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

I have had verizon DSL for both home, and my business for the past 3 years.
So far I have been pretty satisfied.

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.

 

Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of any
reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year

 

Thanks

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Apr 18 14:44:43 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:44:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
In-Reply-To: <002801c5444d$d9ac1070$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNOEPCDIAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>


  I had Verizon DSL first, then went to cable.  Took forever to get it in
(almost 4 months).  Service was fairly stable, but slow.  I was only 3,000
feet from the POP and yet could never seem to get more then 2mb/sec download
speed.  Switched to cable and jumped to 3mb/sec and now recently, my cable
company is pushing towards 5mb/sec.  Took less then 2 weeks to get it from
the first phone call.

  Verizon though is in the process of putting fibre into the houses in my
area, so I may be switching back.....

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith
Williamson
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


I have had verizon DSL for both home, and my business for the past 3 years.
So far I have been pretty satisfied.

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.



Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of any
reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year



Thanks



Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 18 15:01:34 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:01:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873993@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can't.  Design changes can only be made in the table itself, which
means the original table.  The linked table is just an aliased pointer
to the original.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:05 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


Hello Group,

i have a backend database that has a linked table from another database,
that is made by a firm (No adjustments can be made in the original
table).

How can i change the tables name, the name of the ID field and the
datatype in number in the linked table.

Pedro Janssen
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 18 15:07:41 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:07:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873994@infoserver01.infostat.local>

So is that the routine behind a button or a label?  I have to say that I
wouldn't do it the way you appear to be attempting with either.  You
don't need a DoEvents loop if you open the other form using automation
and sink its Close event on the calling form.   DoEvents is sometimes
necessary, but I avoid it whenever possible, since it also can cause
hangups.  Simply put any code to be run after the other form closes in
the event sink on the calling form.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;


Charlotte:

It's just: Private Sub cmdContinue_Click()

in that procedure there's a call to:

' get next question
    strNext = GetNextQuestion

and those lines of code appear in the GetNextQuestion function.

Normally GetNextQuestion returns the next question in the assessment,
but 
there are several charts in the assessment - dieases, sleeping pills, 
medications, relaxations techniques, activities in bed, etc. - which
contain 
a bunch of check boxes.

When they are loaded, instead of closing the main assessment form, I
just 
make it invisible and use that SysCmd function to know when the chart
form 
closes.

Do you think using the IsLoaded property of the AllForms collection
might 
make a difference?  Shouldn't but who knows.  After all, it's Access.

TIA

Rocky



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;


> I've never found that to be true, Rocky, and I have used labels as 
> light weight "buttons" in several recent versions of Access.  What 
> does the declaration for the procedure look like?
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:36 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Is there a difference in how the On Click event works for a command 
> button versus a label in Access 2003.
>
> I had a form that was working with command buttons.  But the gray 
> command buttons are ugly.  So I substituted a label and put the code 
> from the command button behind the label.
>
> When you click this button (or label) it opens another form, makes the

> calling for invisible until the called form closes:
>
>            DoCmd.OpenForm "frmActivitiesInBed"
>            Me.Visible = False
>            Do While SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm,
> "frmActivitiesInBed") <> 0
>               DoEvents
>            Loop
>
> This works real well when in a command button On Click but when it's 
> called in a label's On Click, the system totally hangs with 100% CPU 
> usage.
>
> Another curious symptom: If I alt-Tab away from the app window while 
> it's froze, and back again, it unfreezes the app.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anybody?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
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From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Mon Apr 18 15:09:53 2005
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:09:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
In-Reply-To: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNOEPCDIAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002b01c54452$9a304970$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Well...it is a loooooonnnnnnggggggg story (which I won't go into)...but I am
boycotting Comcast Cable (the only cable company in this area.)  I won't use
them....EVER!!!!  So...I have satellite television...and verizon
telephone/DSL.  NOW...verizon has come close to being boycotted in the past,
as well....but....they are still currently on the ok list.  :)

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted



  I had Verizon DSL first, then went to cable.  Took forever to get it in
(almost 4 months).  Service was fairly stable, but slow.  I was only 3,000
feet from the POP and yet could never seem to get more then 2mb/sec download
speed.  Switched to cable and jumped to 3mb/sec and now recently, my cable
company is pushing towards 5mb/sec.  Took less then 2 weeks to get it from
the first phone call.

  Verizon though is in the process of putting fibre into the houses in my
area, so I may be switching back.....

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


I have had verizon DSL for both home, and my business for the past 3 years.
So far I have been pretty satisfied.

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.



Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of any
reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year



Thanks



Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Mon Apr 18 15:30:08 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:30:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873994@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <01c401c54455$69d0aec0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

"open the other form using automation and sink its Close event on the 
calling form"

Como?

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;


> So is that the routine behind a button or a label?  I have to say that I
> wouldn't do it the way you appear to be attempting with either.  You
> don't need a DoEvents loop if you open the other form using automation
> and sink its Close event on the calling form.   DoEvents is sometimes
> necessary, but I avoid it whenever possible, since it also can cause
> hangups.  Simply put any code to be run after the other form closes in
> the event sink on the calling form.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:10 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>
>
> Charlotte:
>
> It's just: Private Sub cmdContinue_Click()
>
> in that procedure there's a call to:
>
> ' get next question
>    strNext = GetNextQuestion
>
> and those lines of code appear in the GetNextQuestion function.
>
> Normally GetNextQuestion returns the next question in the assessment,
> but
> there are several charts in the assessment - dieases, sleeping pills,
> medications, relaxations techniques, activities in bed, etc. - which
> contain
> a bunch of check boxes.
>
> When they are loaded, instead of closing the main assessment form, I
> just
> make it invisible and use that SysCmd function to know when the chart
> form
> closes.
>
> Do you think using the IsLoaded property of the AllForms collection
> might
> make a difference?  Shouldn't but who knows.  After all, it's Access.
>
> TIA
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:42 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>
>
>> I've never found that to be true, Rocky, and I have used labels as
>> light weight "buttons" in several recent versions of Access.  What
>> does the declaration for the procedure look like?
>>
>> Charlotte Foust
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:36 PM
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>>
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> Is there a difference in how the On Click event works for a command
>> button versus a label in Access 2003.
>>
>> I had a form that was working with command buttons.  But the gray
>> command buttons are ugly.  So I substituted a label and put the code
>> from the command button behind the label.
>>
>> When you click this button (or label) it opens another form, makes the
>
>> calling for invisible until the called form closes:
>>
>>            DoCmd.OpenForm "frmActivitiesInBed"
>>            Me.Visible = False
>>            Do While SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm,
>> "frmActivitiesInBed") <> 0
>>               DoEvents
>>            Loop
>>
>> This works real well when in a command button On Click but when it's
>> called in a label's On Click, the system totally hangs with 100% CPU
>> usage.
>>
>> Another curious symptom: If I alt-Tab away from the app window while
>> it's froze, and back again, it unfreezes the app.
>>
>> Does this sound familiar to anybody?
>>
>> MTIA,
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>> 858-259-4334
>> --
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From bgeldart at verizon.net  Mon Apr 18 15:32:10 2005
From: bgeldart at verizon.net (Bob Geldart)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:32:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
In-Reply-To: <200504181805.j3II5si29604@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200504181805.j3II5si29604@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050418161217.02032750@incoming.verizon.net>

Joe,

I've had Verizon DSL for over a year now and am quite satiefied with it.

Also, I was impressed with their support, the 2 or 3 times I needed it. 
Installation package (modem, filters, CD) arrvied in 3 days from ordering, 
had it running inside of an hour. Called Support because I wanted not to 
install MSN (I use IE and Eudora). Support had me fixed in ten minutes.
Another time I needed Support was when an email correspondent in New 
Brunswick was being blocked. That time I dealt with Online Support; assured 
me the problem would be fixed. Sent me an email a day later that it was 
fixed (it was). Then customer support follwed up with a phone callshortly 
after to verify that everything was working.

I'm using it at home, mainly for email and the occasional downloads - I do 
some genealogy and use it for searching online databases, and images.

Main reasons for going with Verizon DSL:
1. Availability
2. Cost - $29.95 vs ComCast $42.95 (both depending on package of other options)
3. I have ComCast cable TV now. I'm totally ticked at their pricing that I 
wouldn't give them another nickel if they were the only game in town. Their 
service stinks. There are outages and disruptions at least once a month 
that last sometimes a whole weekend. Support is nil. No support outside 
business hours; when you do get them, the stock answer is, "we have 
recieved no reports of problems in that area." I'd still have dialup if 
they were the only option.

Verizon is testing cable TV via DSL in a number of areas here in eastern 
Mass. When they expand that, I'll drop ComCast.

Thanks for asking,
Bob


At 4/18/2005 02:06 PM, you wrote:
>I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.
>
>  Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of any
>reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year
>
>Joe Hecht
>
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>
>28g





Bob Geldart             BGeldart at verizon.net
Maynard, MA


From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Apr 18 15:52:56 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:52:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873993@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <00aa01c54458$9a360710$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hi,

so i can't make an autoexec macro that changes these items by code.

When this isnt possible, what is the best thing to do then??


Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


> You can't.  Design changes can only be made in the table itself, which
> means the original table.  The linked table is just an aliased pointer
> to the original.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:05 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i have a backend database that has a linked table from another database,
> that is made by a firm (No adjustments can be made in the original
> table).
>
> How can i change the tables name, the name of the ID field and the
> datatype in number in the linked table.
>
> Pedro Janssen
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From JHewson at karta.com  Mon Apr 18 16:28:40 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:28:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F58@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

I would create a query and change the name there.
In the design view field row, you can add the new name with a colon after it, followed by the actual name of the field.
In SQL it's something like: 
SELECT tblLinked.OldID as NewID
Don't add any calculations, group by, etc. 
You can change the format, but sometimes that's not too useful.
Then use the query as you would a table with the new names.

HTH
Jim 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


Hi,

so i can't make an autoexec macro that changes these items by code.

When this isnt possible, what is the best thing to do then??


Pedro Janssen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


> You can't.  Design changes can only be made in the table itself, which
> means the original table.  The linked table is just an aliased pointer
> to the original.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:05 PM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
>
>
> Hello Group,
>
> i have a backend database that has a linked table from another database,
> that is made by a firm (No adjustments can be made in the original
> table).
>
> How can i change the tables name, the name of the ID field and the
> datatype in number in the linked table.
>
> Pedro Janssen
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Apr 18 17:37:42 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:37:42 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899F85@infoserver01.infostat.local>

LOL Haven't you followed any of the great event debates?? <vbg>

On form #1 declare this:

WithEvents frm As Form_Form2

Or this:

WithEvents frm As Form

That allows you to create a frm_Close event procedure for the other form
on Form1.

Then in the event of Form1 the opens Form2, instantiate the frm object:

DoCmd.OpenForm "Form2"
Set frm = forms!Form2


Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;


"open the other form using automation and sink its Close event on the 
calling form"

Como?

Rocky

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From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;


> So is that the routine behind a button or a label?  I have to say that

> I wouldn't do it the way you appear to be attempting with either.  You

> don't need a DoEvents loop if you open the other form using automation
> and sink its Close event on the calling form.   DoEvents is sometimes
> necessary, but I avoid it whenever possible, since it also can cause 
> hangups.  Simply put any code to be run after the other form closes in

> the event sink on the calling form.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 9:10 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>
>
> Charlotte:
>
> It's just: Private Sub cmdContinue_Click()
>
> in that procedure there's a call to:
>
> ' get next question
>    strNext = GetNextQuestion
>
> and those lines of code appear in the GetNextQuestion function.
>
> Normally GetNextQuestion returns the next question in the assessment, 
> but there are several charts in the assessment - dieases, sleeping 
> pills, medications, relaxations techniques, activities in bed, etc. - 
> which contain
> a bunch of check boxes.
>
> When they are loaded, instead of closing the main assessment form, I 
> just make it invisible and use that SysCmd function to know when the 
> chart form
> closes.
>
> Do you think using the IsLoaded property of the AllForms collection 
> might make a difference?  Shouldn't but who knows.  After all, it's 
> Access.
>
> TIA
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:42 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>
>
>> I've never found that to be true, Rocky, and I have used labels as 
>> light weight "buttons" in several recent versions of Access.  What 
>> does the declaration for the procedure look like?
>>
>> Charlotte Foust
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:36 PM
>> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] On Click Event in Command button versus Label;
>>
>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> Is there a difference in how the On Click event works for a command 
>> button versus a label in Access 2003.
>>
>> I had a form that was working with command buttons.  But the gray 
>> command buttons are ugly.  So I substituted a label and put the code 
>> from the command button behind the label.
>>
>> When you click this button (or label) it opens another form, makes 
>> the
>
>> calling for invisible until the called form closes:
>>
>>            DoCmd.OpenForm "frmActivitiesInBed"
>>            Me.Visible = False
>>            Do While SysCmd(acSysCmdGetObjectState, acForm,
>> "frmActivitiesInBed") <> 0
>>               DoEvents
>>            Loop
>>
>> This works real well when in a command button On Click but when it's 
>> called in a label's On Click, the system totally hangs with 100% CPU 
>> usage.
>>
>> Another curious symptom: If I alt-Tab away from the app window while 
>> it's froze, and back again, it unfreezes the app.
>>
>> Does this sound familiar to anybody?
>>
>> MTIA,
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
>> 858-259-4334
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 19 01:36:58 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:36:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
In-Reply-To: <017701c54447$e2226980$5b1865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <000b01c544aa$300c78e0$1bf00651@minster33c3r25>

Thanks AD, I'll try it.

-- Andy Lacey
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.Tejpal
> Sent: 18 April 2005 19:53
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
> 
> 
> Andy,
> 
>     Totals query named Q_Andy2, given below, should get you 
> the desired result. It uses union query named Q_Andy1 as its source.
> 
> Best wishes,
> A.D.Tejpal
> --------------
> 
> Q_Andy2 (Final Query - Totals Query) 
> ==================================
> SELECT [Code1] & [Code2] AS Code, Sum(Q_Andy1.Qty) AS 
> SumOfQty FROM Q_Andy1 GROUP BY [Code1] & [Code2]; 
> ==================================
> 
> Q_Andy1 (Preliminary Query - Union type) 
> ==================================
> Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy1 
> Union ALL 
> Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy2 
> UNION ALL 
> Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy3; 
> ==================================
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Andy Lacey 
>   To: Dba 
>   Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 21:38
>   Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
> 
> 
>   Afternoon all, how's things?
> 
>   Can someone help dense old me? I can't figure out how to do this.
> 
>   I have 3 tables, structure of each is Code1, Code2, Qty 
> (I'm simplifying).
>   Example data:
> 
>   tbl1
>   ----
>   A    B  36
>   A    B  45
>   B    B  21
>   B    C  22
> 
>   tbl2
>   -----
>   A    A  9
>   B    B  12
> 
>   tbl3
>   ----
>   A    B  7
>   B    D  3
> 
>   What I want as output is the total qty for each unique pair 
> of Code1 and Code2, ie
> 
>   A    A  9
>   A    B  88
>   B    B  33
>   B    C  22
>   B    D  3
> 
>   I started by writing a query for each table to sum qty by 
> Code1 and Code2 then began to do a UNION query and stopped 
> there cos I can't see how I sum or Group across the 3 
> original queries in my UNION query. So I must have started 
> wrong but I've got a senior moment or something cos I can't see it.
> 
>   Can someone please help me out?
> 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 19 03:36:50 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 9:36:50 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
Message-ID: <20050419083648.A6EFE24DC73@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Many thanks AD, it worked a treat. I was going at it the wrong way with
creating three separate queries then trying to UNION and GROUP them at the
same time. Thanks for taking the trouble to help me out.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.Tejpal
> Sent: 18 April 2005 19:53
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
>
>
> Andy,
>
>     Totals query named Q_Andy2, given below, should get you
> the desired result. It uses union query named Q_Andy1 as its source.
>
> Best wishes,
> A.D.Tejpal
> --------------
>
> Q_Andy2 (Final Query - Totals Query)
> ==================================
> SELECT [Code1] & [Code2] AS Code, Sum(Q_Andy1.Qty) AS
> SumOfQty FROM Q_Andy1 GROUP BY [Code1] & [Code2];
> ==================================
>
> Q_Andy1 (Preliminary Query - Union type)
> ==================================
> Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy1
> Union ALL
> Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy2
> UNION ALL
> Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy3;
> ==================================
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Andy Lacey
>   To: Dba
>   Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 21:38
>   Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
>
>
>   Afternoon all, how's things?
>
>   Can someone help dense old me? I can't figure out how to do this.
>
>   I have 3 tables, structure of each is Code1, Code2, Qty
> (I'm simplifying).
>   Example data:
>
>   tbl1
>   ----
>   A    B  36
>   A    B  45
>   B    B  21
>   B    C  22
>
>   tbl2
>   -----
>   A    A  9
>   B    B  12
>
>   tbl3
>   ----
>   A    B  7
>   B    D  3
>
>   What I want as output is the total qty for each unique pair
> of Code1 and Code2, ie
>
>   A    A  9
>   A    B  88
>   B    B  33
>   B    C  22
>   B    D  3
>
>   I started by writing a query for each table to sum qty by
> Code1 and Code2 then began to do a UNION query and stopped
> there cos I can't see how I sum or Group across the 3
> original queries in my UNION query. So I must have started
> wrong but I've got a senior moment or something cos I can't see it.
>
>   Can someone please help me out?
>
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Apr 19 04:12:53 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:12:53 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A51@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Dear friends....
 
Whats the easyest way to get a Spanish (upside down) question mark in a
E-mail or Office?
The customer is using a English international Windows XP and Office 2K3
(or XP).
 
He says that ALT+189 should do the trick but this does not work,
probably depending on the font.
So what font does work.
 
Greetz
 

 

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 19 04:49:35 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:49:35 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Message-ID: <20050419094932.B6A75255FF2@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi Erwin
Well in Word the key combination Shift-Alt Gr-? works for me, although it
takes some typing. But it doesn't work in Excel or Outlook so don't know if
that's any use to you.

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To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Date: 19/04/05 09:14

>
> Dear friends....
>
> Whats the easyest way to get a Spanish (upside down) question mark in a
> E-mail or Office?
> The customer is using a English international Windows XP and Office 2K3
> (or XP).
>
> He says that ALT+189 should do the trick but this does not work,
> probably depending on the font.
> So what font does work.
>
> Greetz
>
>
>
>
> Erwin Craps
>
> Zaakvoerder
>
> www.ithelps.be/onsgezin
>
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Tue Apr 19 05:03:55 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:03:55 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
In-Reply-To: <20050419094932.B6A75255FF2@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAPeTLgpBVWZGtJr3+DzcmMcBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

ALT+0191 works with Arial, Tahoma and Times New Roman  

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Sent: 19 April 2005 10:50
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark

Hi Erwin
Well in Word the key combination Shift-Alt Gr-? works for me, although it
takes some typing. But it doesn't work in Excel or Outlook so don't know if
that's any use to you.

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To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Date: 19/04/05 09:14

>
> Dear friends....
>
> Whats the easyest way to get a Spanish (upside down) question mark in 
> a E-mail or Office?
> The customer is using a English international Windows XP and Office 
> 2K3 (or XP).
>
> He says that ALT+189 should do the trick but this does not work, 
> probably depending on the font.
> So what font does work.
>
> Greetz
>
>
>
>
> Erwin Craps
>
> Zaakvoerder
>
> www.ithelps.be/onsgezin
>
>
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 19 04:58:36 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:58:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Message-ID: <20050419095834.580B3261BA8@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Just discovered that Alt 168 does the ? and Alt 173 the ?

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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Date: 19/04/05 09:51

>
> Hi Erwin
> Well in Word the key combination Shift-Alt Gr-? works for me, although it
> takes some typing. But it doesn't work in Excel or Outlook so don't know
if
> that's any use to you.
>
> --
> Andy Lacey
> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk
>
>
>
> --------- Original Message --------
> From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> &lt;accessd at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com &lt;AccessD at databaseadvisors.com&gt;
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
> Date: 19/04/05 09:14
>
> &gt;
> &gt; Dear friends....
> &gt;
> &gt; Whats the easyest way to get a Spanish (upside down) question mark in
a
> &gt; E-mail or Office?
> &gt; The customer is using a English international Windows XP and Office
2K3
> &gt; (or XP).
> &gt;
> &gt; He says that ALT+189 should do the trick but this does not work,
> &gt; probably depending on the font.
> &gt; So what font does work.
> &gt;
> &gt; Greetz
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; Erwin Craps
> &gt;
> &gt; Zaakvoerder
> &gt;
> &gt; www.ithelps.be/onsgezin
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 19 04:55:33 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:55:33 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Message-ID: <20050419095531.3ECED261A84@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Oh and the same goes for the upside down ! (Shift - Alt Gr - !)

Is the right-hand Alt key always labelled Alt Gr by the way? It's that one I
mean.

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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Date: 19/04/05 09:51

>
> Hi Erwin
> Well in Word the key combination Shift-Alt Gr-? works for me, although it
> takes some typing. But it doesn't work in Excel or Outlook so don't know
if
> that's any use to you.
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> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
> Date: 19/04/05 09:14
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 19 05:26:41 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:26:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A51@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <42656981.25654.10BE07A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 19 Apr 2005 at 11:12, Erwin Craps - IT Helps wrote:

> Dear friends....
>  
> Whats the easyest way to get a Spanish (upside down) question mark in a
> E-mail or Office?
> The customer is using a English international Windows XP and Office 2K3
> (or XP).
>  
> He says that ALT+189 should do the trick but this does not work,
> probably depending on the font.
> So what font does work.
>  

Try Alt + 0191. That works in all the standard fonts. (Note that you need  
four digits with the leading "0". Using 3 digits in Word etc gives the old 
ASCII line draw characters.


A great little tool for answering this sort of question quickly is the 
Pricelessware (http://www.pricelesswar.org) recommended utility:

Extended Character Map
(Freeware)
Windows OS: Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000
Languages: English
Description: Extended Character Map is like the Windows Character Map 
utility but uses much bigger, easier-to-see characters. The utility is 
especially useful for viewing the pictures in a symbol or Dingbat font. 
Characters can be seen up to 100pt size. No more squinting at Webding 
characters trying to figure out "is that a race car or a textile factory?". 
The keystroke name is displayed in the program's status bar. The 
Decimal/Hex/Oct/Binary values are also displayed. Additionally, you can 
view the fonts with one or more attributes selected (Bold, Italic, 
Underline, Strikeout). Using ExtendedCharacterMap, any character or series 
of characters can be quickly copied to the clipboard.
Company: -- Author: Sony Arianto Kurniawan

Program description:
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6166,00.asp

download v 1.41 (extended.zip) (189 KB)
http://ftp.pcworld.com/pub/new/desktop/fonts/extended.zip 


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 19 05:32:02 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:32:02 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
In-Reply-To: <20050419095531.3ECED261A84@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <42656AC2.28832.110C7F8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 19 Apr 2005 at 10:55, Andy Lacey wrote:

> Oh and the same goes for the upside down ! (Shift - Alt Gr - !)
> 
> Is the right-hand Alt key always labelled Alt Gr by the way? It's that one I
> mean.
> 

Only on some non-US keyboards. On US keyboards, it's just "Alt"


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Tue Apr 19 05:46:40 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:46:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Message-ID: <20050419104638.06AFB2743B6@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Thanks Stuart. I had a feeling there were differences. So I mean the
right-Alt.

Interesting what you say about Alt numbers though. Again we have a
difference.
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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Date: 19/04/05 10:33

>
> On 19 Apr 2005 at 10:55, Andy Lacey wrote:
>
> &gt; Oh and the same goes for the upside down ! (Shift - Alt Gr - !)
> &gt;
> &gt; Is the right-hand Alt key always labelled Alt Gr by the way? It's
that one I
> &gt; mean.
> &gt;
>
> Only on some non-US keyboards. On US keyboards, it's just &quot;Alt&quot;
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Apr 19 06:17:11 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:17:11 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark-SOLVED
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5A5A@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

 
Apparently he got the 186 wrong with the 168...

But I have several solutions now....

AVRYBIGTHX



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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:47 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark

Thanks Stuart. I had a feeling there were differences. So I mean the
right-Alt.

Interesting what you say about Alt numbers though. Again we have a
difference.
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From: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
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To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Spanish question mark
Date: 19/04/05 10:33

>
> On 19 Apr 2005 at 10:55, Andy Lacey wrote:
>
> &gt; Oh and the same goes for the upside down ! (Shift - Alt Gr - !) 
> &gt; &gt; Is the right-hand Alt key always labelled Alt Gr by the way?

> It's
that one I
> &gt; mean.
> &gt;
>
> Only on some non-US keyboards. On US keyboards, it's just 
> &quot;Alt&quot;
>
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From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Tue Apr 19 07:48:06 2005
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:48:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050418161217.02032750@incoming.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <000001c544de$09275bd0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Here, here......what??  Another dissatisfied Comcast customer??  Say it
isn't so!!!??

IMSHO.....Comcast is the WORST example of customer oriented company
.....EVER!!!!  And I would lump failed communist service companies from the
old USSR, in that.  If they are worse than socialist companies....they ARE
bad!!!   :)

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Geldart
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


Joe,

I've had Verizon DSL for over a year now and am quite satiefied with it.

Also, I was impressed with their support, the 2 or 3 times I needed it. 
Installation package (modem, filters, CD) arrvied in 3 days from ordering, 
had it running inside of an hour. Called Support because I wanted not to 
install MSN (I use IE and Eudora). Support had me fixed in ten minutes.
Another time I needed Support was when an email correspondent in New 
Brunswick was being blocked. That time I dealt with Online Support; assured 
me the problem would be fixed. Sent me an email a day later that it was 
fixed (it was). Then customer support follwed up with a phone callshortly 
after to verify that everything was working.

I'm using it at home, mainly for email and the occasional downloads - I do 
some genealogy and use it for searching online databases, and images.

Main reasons for going with Verizon DSL:
1. Availability
2. Cost - $29.95 vs ComCast $42.95 (both depending on package of other
options) 3. I have ComCast cable TV now. I'm totally ticked at their pricing
that I 
wouldn't give them another nickel if they were the only game in town. Their 
service stinks. There are outages and disruptions at least once a month 
that last sometimes a whole weekend. Support is nil. No support outside 
business hours; when you do get them, the stock answer is, "we have 
recieved no reports of problems in that area." I'd still have dialup if 
they were the only option.

Verizon is testing cable TV via DSL in a number of areas here in eastern 
Mass. When they expand that, I'll drop ComCast.

Thanks for asking,
Bob


At 4/18/2005 02:06 PM, you wrote:
>I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.
>
>  Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of 
>any reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year
>
>Joe Hecht
>
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>
>28g





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From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Tue Apr 19 08:03:05 2005
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:03:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:  Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted
In-Reply-To: <000001c544de$09275bd0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>
Message-ID: <000101c544e0$26791640$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Excuse me...Comcast is the BEST example of the Worst Company!!

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Keith Williamson
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:48 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


Here, here......what??  Another dissatisfied Comcast customer??  Say it
isn't so!!!??

IMSHO.....Comcast is the WORST example of customer oriented company
.....EVER!!!!  And I would lump failed communist service companies from the
old USSR, in that.  If they are worse than socialist companies....they ARE
bad!!!   :)

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Geldart
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Switching to Verizon DSL? X Posted


Joe,

I've had Verizon DSL for over a year now and am quite satiefied with it.

Also, I was impressed with their support, the 2 or 3 times I needed it. 
Installation package (modem, filters, CD) arrvied in 3 days from ordering, 
had it running inside of an hour. Called Support because I wanted not to 
install MSN (I use IE and Eudora). Support had me fixed in ten minutes.
Another time I needed Support was when an email correspondent in New 
Brunswick was being blocked. That time I dealt with Online Support; assured 
me the problem would be fixed. Sent me an email a day later that it was 
fixed (it was). Then customer support follwed up with a phone callshortly 
after to verify that everything was working.

I'm using it at home, mainly for email and the occasional downloads - I do 
some genealogy and use it for searching online databases, and images.

Main reasons for going with Verizon DSL:
1. Availability
2. Cost - $29.95 vs ComCast $42.95 (both depending on package of other
options) 3. I have ComCast cable TV now. I'm totally ticked at their pricing
that I 
wouldn't give them another nickel if they were the only game in town. Their 
service stinks. There are outages and disruptions at least once a month 
that last sometimes a whole weekend. Support is nil. No support outside 
business hours; when you do get them, the stock answer is, "we have 
recieved no reports of problems in that area." I'd still have dialup if 
they were the only option.

Verizon is testing cable TV via DSL in a number of areas here in eastern 
Mass. When they expand that, I'll drop ComCast.

Thanks for asking,
Bob


At 4/18/2005 02:06 PM, you wrote:
>I am strongly considering from EarthLink to Verizon DSL.
>
>  Other than the getting my new e mail to the world does anyone know of
>any reasons not to make the switch and save about $ 300.00 a year
>
>Joe Hecht
>
>jmhla at earthlink.net
>
>28g





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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Apr 19 08:43:09 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:43:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Repeat a section on a report
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A239@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I have a report that needs to have a certain portion of it repeated BOTH on
new page and on a group break but I don't want it to double up on it's self
in the event that both occur at the same time, which is what would happen on
the first page.
I know how to make portions of a report repeat it self (page header and
group header) but I don't know how to get around this problem.
Any ideas on how to work around this?

Thanks!
JR





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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Tue Apr 19 08:49:22 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:19:22 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
References: <20050419083648.A6EFE24DC73@smtp.nildram.co.uk>
Message-ID: <002601c544e6$ac8d10a0$921865cb@winxp>

    You are most welcome Andy!

A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andy Lacey 
  To: Dba 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 14:06
  Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this


  Many thanks AD, it worked a treat. I was going at it the wrong way with creating three separate queries then trying to UNION and GROUP them at the same time. Thanks for taking the trouble to help me out.
  --
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  http://www.minstersystems.co.uk


  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.Tejpal
  > Sent: 18 April 2005 19:53
  > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
  >
  >
  > Andy,
  >
  >     Totals query named Q_Andy2, given below, should get you
  > the desired result. It uses union query named Q_Andy1 as its source.
  >
  > Best wishes,
  > A.D.Tejpal
  > --------------
  >
  > Q_Andy2 (Final Query - Totals Query)
  > ==================================
  > SELECT [Code1] & [Code2] AS Code, Sum(Q_Andy1.Qty) AS
  > SumOfQty FROM Q_Andy1 GROUP BY [Code1] & [Code2];
  > ==================================
  >
  > Q_Andy1 (Preliminary Query - Union type)
  > ==================================
  > Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy1
  > Union ALL
  > Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy2
  > UNION ALL
  > Select Code1, Code2, Qty From T_Andy3;
  > ==================================
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Andy Lacey
  >   To: Dba
  >   Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 21:38
  >   Subject: [AccessD] Can't get the SQL for this
  >
  >
  >   Afternoon all, how's things?
  >
  >   Can someone help dense old me? I can't figure out how to do this.
  >
  >   I have 3 tables, structure of each is Code1, Code2, Qty
  > (I'm simplifying).
  >   Example data:
  >
  >   tbl1
  >   ----
  >   A    B  36
  >   A    B  45
  >   B    B  21
  >   B    C  22
  >
  >   tbl2
  >   -----
  >   A    A  9
  >   B    B  12
  >
  >   tbl3
  >   ----
  >   A    B  7
  >   B    D  3
  >
  >   What I want as output is the total qty for each unique pair
  > of Code1 and Code2, ie
  >
  >   A    A  9
  >   A    B  88
  >   B    B  33
  >   B    C  22
  >   B    D  3
  >
  >   I started by writing a query for each table to sum qty by
  > Code1 and Code2 then began to do a UNION query and stopped
  > there cos I can't see how I sum or Group across the 3
  > original queries in my UNION query. So I must have started
  > wrong but I've got a senior moment or something cos I can't see it.
  >
  >   Can someone please help me out?
  >
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr 19 10:08:26 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:08:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Repeat a section on a report
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8687399B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Set the repeating section to Visible = false.  Then add something like
this in its format event (assuming the "section" is a group header):  If
Page > 1 Then Me(sectionname).Visible = true 

Or do the reverse and hide it on page 1.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Joe Rojas [mailto:JRojas at tnco-inc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 6:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Repeat a section on a report


Hi All,

I have a report that needs to have a certain portion of it repeated BOTH
on new page and on a group break but I don't want it to double up on
it's self in the event that both occur at the same time, which is what
would happen on the first page. I know how to make portions of a report
repeat it self (page header and group header) but I don't know how to
get around this problem. Any ideas on how to work around this?

Thanks!
JR





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From jmhla at earthlink.net  Tue Apr 19 12:35:44 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:35:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor
In-Reply-To: <00b101c5392d$42590910$6401a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <001e01c54506$37aca9b0$6501a8c0@laptop1>

Rocky,

Some questions before I say yes:
 

I have Axp on 1 machine and A2K3 on the other

What will a runtime do to my setups?

Do you an MDB version I can do?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Cc: Rubin Naiman
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor

Joe:

If you don't mind we would greatly appreciate your doing the Sleep Advisor 
again.  We made a lot of changes in the way the questions are worded and in 
the output (a bit shorter and more concise in many places, although the 
report is still quite detailed; more accurate, too, we hope).

So we'd be interested in your reaction to the inputs and the outputs.  Also,

since you're a developer, you can tell me how the installation process 
goes - this is a run-time you'll be downloading.

So, please give it a go and, when you've finished, don't forget to attach 
the two txt files to an email and send them in.  We'll send you back a pdf 
of your report.

Thanks and regards,





From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Apr 19 13:20:55 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 11:20:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor
References: <001e01c54506$37aca9b0$6501a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <013501c5450c$874b4bb0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Joe:

I have an mde.  However, Sagekey guarantees that there's no problem with any 
installation of Office by using their scripts.  However, I can send you an 
mde if you like.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Hecht" <jmhla at earthlink.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:35 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor


> Rocky,
>
> Some questions before I say yes:
>
>
> I have Axp on 1 machine and A2K3 on the other
>
> What will a runtime do to my setups?
>
> Do you an MDB version I can do?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:45 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Cc: Rubin Naiman
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: The Sleep ADvisor
>
> Joe:
>
> If you don't mind we would greatly appreciate your doing the Sleep Advisor
> again.  We made a lot of changes in the way the questions are worded and 
> in
> the output (a bit shorter and more concise in many places, although the
> report is still quite detailed; more accurate, too, we hope).
>
> So we'd be interested in your reaction to the inputs and the outputs. 
> Also,
>
> since you're a developer, you can tell me how the installation process
> goes - this is a run-time you'll be downloading.
>
> So, please give it a go and, when you've finished, don't forget to attach
> the two txt files to an email and send them in.  We'll send you back a pdf
> of your report.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
>
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 19 14:22:22 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:22:22 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access 2000
Message-ID: <s26576a1.066@cactus.dk>

Hi all

How do you do this?

I did an install of Access 2000 including the latest service packs etc.
and the option for creating and using a digital certificate. 
But when I go to the VB editor and pick Tools, no menu entry for
digitally signing the code exists even though it is supposed to be
there. 

Do you need to add an add-in or what is the trick?

/gustav


From pedro at plex.nl  Tue Apr 19 16:20:20 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:20:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F58@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <00c901c54525$980c3310$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hi,

is it possible to make a copy of the linked database by code, and change the
name, field name and datatype of this copy?

Pedro


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


> I would create a query and change the name there.
> In the design view field row, you can add the new name with a colon after
it, followed by the actual name of the field.
> In SQL it's something like:
> SELECT tblLinked.OldID as NewID
> Don't add any calculations, group by, etc.
> You can change the format, but sometimes that's not too useful.
> Then use the query as you would a table with the new names.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:53 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
>
>
> Hi,
>
> so i can't make an autoexec macro that changes these items by code.
>
> When this isnt possible, what is the best thing to do then??
>
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
>
>
> > You can't.  Design changes can only be made in the table itself, which
> > means the original table.  The linked table is just an aliased pointer
> > to the original.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl]
> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:05 PM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
> >
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > i have a backend database that has a linked table from another database,
> > that is made by a firm (No adjustments can be made in the original
> > table).
> >
> > How can i change the tables name, the name of the ID field and the
> > datatype in number in the linked table.
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
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>




From bgoss711 at ameritech.net  Tue Apr 19 16:31:48 2005
From: bgoss711 at ameritech.net (Bud Goss)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:31:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] ODBC For AS400 with Access 2003 - solution- Documented
	Microsoft Bug
Message-ID: <20050419213148.56846.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com>

I initially named this topic Use if (typo should be "of" not "if") 
HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003
 
I have renamed this solution post because the problem is not exclusive to the HIT Software ODBC driver. It will occur also occur with IBM's iSeries Access driver- and probably others as well.
 
If you encounter this (getting a message that an "Index Aready Exists") when working with an Access 2003 database refer to the following Microsoft Knowledge Base articles
 
811963
870753
837001
 
With my Hit software, I learned that the problem can be by-passed by un-checking the SQLStasistics option.
 
With the iSeries software, a couple of hotfix installs are required.I have not actually installed the hotfixs on a test machine yet, but am reasonably confident that this will resolve the issue.
 
Thanks to all who commented..
 
 


From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Apr 19 16:45:30 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:45:30 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050420094318.039d2090@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

It looks like I need to start working with Visual Studio.net to web enable 
some of my applications.

Does anyone know of a good user group like this one, or are there enough of 
us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr 19 16:54:27 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:54:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739A1@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You could, but what good would it do you?  It would have no effect
whatsoever on the linked table, and if you linked to the code instead
you would run into synchronization issues.  Jim's suggestion is the way
I would do it.  Perhaps if you explain what you're trying for, aside
from changing a field, someone will be able to make a more useful
suggestion.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


Hi,

is it possible to make a copy of the linked database by code, and change
the name, field name and datatype of this copy?

Pedro


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hewson" <JHewson at karta.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


> I would create a query and change the name there.
> In the design view field row, you can add the new name with a colon 
> after
it, followed by the actual name of the field.
> In SQL it's something like:
> SELECT tblLinked.OldID as NewID
> Don't add any calculations, group by, etc.
> You can change the format, but sometimes that's not too useful. Then 
> use the query as you would a table with the new names.
>
> HTH
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro 
> Janssen
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:53 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
>
>
> Hi,
>
> so i can't make an autoexec macro that changes these items by code.
>
> When this isnt possible, what is the best thing to do then??
>
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
>
>
> > You can't.  Design changes can only be made in the table itself, 
> > which means the original table.  The linked table is just an aliased

> > pointer to the original.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pedro Janssen [mailto:pedro at plex.nl]
> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:05 PM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
> >
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > i have a backend database that has a linked table from another 
> > database, that is made by a firm (No adjustments can be made in the 
> > original table).
> >
> > How can i change the tables name, the name of the ID field and the 
> > datatype in number in the linked table.
> >
> > Pedro Janssen
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
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>


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Apr 19 16:56:22 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:56:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739A2@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I'm working in .Net too and would find a focused list helpful.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: David Emerson [mailto:newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group


It looks like I need to start working with Visual Studio.net to web
enable 
some of my applications.

Does anyone know of a good user group like this one, or are there enough
of 
us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 19 17:01:10 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:01:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
In-Reply-To: <00c901c54525$980c3310$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <42660C46.22600.387B492@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 19 Apr 2005 at 23:20, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> is it possible to make a copy of the linked database by code, and change the
> name, field name and datatype of this copy?
> 

One way would be to create a new table with the desired format either 
directly in your application database or or in a separate "backend" 
database and link to that as well as to the original table.  Then 
periodically run two queries , a delete query to clear  your new table  
followed by an Insert query of all the records from the old table into the 
new table.

If there is a unique key in the old table, you can set a unique index on  
that field in the new table and forget about the delete query.

Note that if you are doing this frequently, you will have to compact the 
database regularly or you will get very bad bloat. 




-- 
Stuart




From john at winhaven.net  Tue Apr 19 17:29:42 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:29:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739A2@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200504192229.j3JMTkxG425804@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>

It look sto me like the DBA-VB list covers .net quite a bit. I don't really
keep close tabs on it though, can anyone else pipe in on that?


John B.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group

I'm working in .Net too and would find a focused list helpful.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: David Emerson [mailto:newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group


It looks like I need to start working with Visual Studio.net to web
enable 
some of my applications.

Does anyone know of a good user group like this one, or are there enough
of 
us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348 

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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Tue Apr 19 18:24:27 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:24:27 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Is Array the best alternative or do I have options
Message-ID: <OF82CF2B30.3C8A4AB1-ONCA256FE8.007C9669@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Having solved the last problem (thanks to some helpful advice from Rocky).
I now move on to the next.


In my Application I must generate reports from parameters passed from the
user. These parameters are start and end Authority Number. That is all
working fine and the customer was happy, but as they are want to do they
have decided they need a change. So now I need to pass these start and end
numbers to a function and see if they have paid their fees and insurance
before allowing the record to be printed. But I also need to present the
user with a list of records that have not been printed because of non
payment.



I have tried to do this by using an Array and then passing the Array back
to a second function to check if the numbers are in the array but I keep
getting a subscript out of range error on my array. I have done a record
count and there should be 383 records in the Array.



Is there a better way to do this? I have posted the start of my code below,
I get a subscript out of range on CheckInsFees


Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange



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Public Function checkInsFees()
Dim CheckInsFees As Variant
Dim i As Integer
Dim rsCheckFees As Recordset
Dim dbCheckFees As Database
Dim StrSQL As String
Dim intCount As Integer
Dim MyCount As Integer
Dim MyRenewalID As Integer

StrSQL = "SELECT tblDAuthorityRenewal.AuthorityRenewalID FROM
tblDAuthorityRenewal WHERE tblDAuthorityRenewal.FeesPaid = -1 AND
tblDAuthorityrenewal.InsuranceSighted = -1"

Set dbCheckFees = CurrentDb()
    Set rsCheckFees = dbCheckFees.OpenRecordset(StrSQL, dbOpenSnapshot)
    MyCount = rsCheckFees.RecordCount
      CheckInsFees = rsCheckFees.GetRows(MyCount)

    intCount = UBound(CheckInsFees, 2) + 1



ExitRoutine:
    On Error Resume Next
        rsCheckFees.Close
        dbCheckFees.Close

        Set rsCheckFees = Nothing
        Set dbCheckFees = Nothing
    Exit Function

Failure:
        Call ErrorHandler(lngErrorNumber:=Err.Number,
strErrorDescription:=Err.Description, strErrorSource:=Err.Source)
        Resume ExitRoutine



End Function





From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 19 19:28:35 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:28:35 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Is Array the best alternative or do I have options
In-Reply-To: <OF82CF2B30.3C8A4AB1-ONCA256FE8.007C9669@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <42662ED3.24377.40EA8F9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 20 Apr 2005 at 9:24, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.go wrote:


> In my Application I must generate reports from parameters passed from the
> user. These parameters are start and end Authority Number. That is all
> working fine and the customer was happy, but as they are want to do they
> have decided they need a change. So now I need to pass these start and end
> numbers to a function and see if they have paid their fees and insurance
> before allowing the record to be printed. But I also need to present the
> user with a list of records that have not been printed because of non
> payment.
> 

Why not base just your report on a query which includes the criteria

" WHERE tblDAuthorityRenewal.FeesPaid = -1 AND 
tblDAuthorityrenewal.InsuranceSighted = -1"


then display a query for the user which shows the "not printed" records by 
using the criteria:

" WHERE tblDAuthorityRenewal.FeesPaid <> -1 OR
tblDAuthorityrenewal.InsuranceSighted <> -1"

You can include in the query the fields FeesPaid and InsuranceSighted 
(formatted "Yes/No") so that the user can see why each record was not 
printed.






-- 
Stuart




From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Tue Apr 19 19:32:24 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:32:24 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Is Array the best alternative or do I have options 
Message-ID: <OF1A058D65.B8B8E6BC-ONCA256FE9.0002BC07@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Of Course

Thanks Stuart. I hadn't thought of queries

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange

> In my Application I must generate reports from parameters passed from the
> user. These parameters are start and end Authority Number. That is all
> working fine and the customer was happy, but as they are want to do they
> have decided they need a change. So now I need to pass these start and
end
> numbers to a function and see if they have paid their fees and insurance
> before allowing the record to be printed. But I also need to present the
> user with a list of records that have not been printed because of non
> payment.
>

Why not base just your report on a query which includes the criteria

" WHERE tblDAuthorityRenewal.FeesPaid = -1 AND
tblDAuthorityrenewal.InsuranceSighted = -1"


then display a query for the user which shows the "not printed" records by
using the criteria:

" WHERE tblDAuthorityRenewal.FeesPaid <> -1 OR
tblDAuthorityrenewal.InsuranceSighted <> -1"

You can include in the query the fields FeesPaid and InsuranceSighted
(formatted "Yes/No") so that the user can see why each record was not
printed.






--
Stuart


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 19 19:35:56 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:35:56 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Is Array the best alternative or do I have options
In-Reply-To: <OF82CF2B30.3C8A4AB1-ONCA256FE8.007C9669@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <4266308C.24863.4156304@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 20 Apr 2005 at 9:24, connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.go wrote:

> 
> I get a subscript out of range on CheckInsFees
> 
> Dim CheckInsFees As Variant
> 
>     MyCount = rsCheckFees.RecordCount
>       CheckInsFees = rsCheckFees.GetRows(MyCount)
> 
>     intCount = UBound(CheckInsFees, 2) + 1

I suspect that there are a couple of problems:

You are not declaring CheckInsFees as an Array. Use "Dim CheckInsFees() " 
The default for an undimensioned array is 10 elements.  If it is going to 
be any larger then you need to  REDIM CheckInsFees(MyCount)










-- 
Stuart




From mms at sentex.net  Tue Apr 19 19:56:22 2005
From: mms at sentex.net (Les Dunn)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 20:56:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050420094318.039d2090@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <002701c54543$c60997d0$573ec645@lesdunn>

I too have some .NET applications that I would like to make available on the 
net. I have posted questions to some of the various 
microsoft.public.dotnet... forums but have not received any quality replies 
that have even come close to answering my questions. I would be interested 
in hearing about any other alternative forums.
...Les

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Emerson" <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:45 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group


> It looks like I need to start working with Visual Studio.net to web enable 
> some of my applications.
>
> Does anyone know of a good user group like this one, or are there enough 
> of us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?
>
> Regards
>
> David Emerson
> Dalyn Software Ltd
> 25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
> Wellington, New Zealand
> Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
> Mobile 027-280-9348
> -- 
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> 




From ebarro at afsweb.com  Tue Apr 19 21:00:04 2005
From: ebarro at afsweb.com (Eric Barro)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:00:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739A2@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <DPEGIFJOAFKLEDNNDGHCKECGIBAA.ebarro@afsweb.com>

Same here.

Eric Barro

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group


I'm working in .Net too and would find a focused list helpful.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: David Emerson [mailto:newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group


It looks like I need to start working with Visual Studio.net to web
enable 
some of my applications.

Does anyone know of a good user group like this one, or are there enough
of 
us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
Wellington, New Zealand
Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
Mobile 027-280-9348 


                                                                                                                                                                      
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From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Wed Apr 20 02:42:00 2005
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:42:00 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D010E4B09@ddi-01.DDI.local>

If you want focused the try here...

http://discuss.develop.com/

cheers

Michael M

It looks like I need to start working with Visual Studio.net to web
enable some of my applications.

Does anyone know of a good user group like this one, or are there enough
of us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?

Regards

David Emerson
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Wellington, New Zealand
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Wed Apr 20 07:21:35 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:21:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access 2000
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2EBD@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Gustav,

There's a pretty good article on this at http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/Pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=194 that should help you.  

Helen Fedemma has one too on her site in vol. 119.

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access 2000


Hi all

How do you do this?

I did an install of Access 2000 including the latest service packs etc.
and the option for creating and using a digital certificate. 
But when I go to the VB editor and pick Tools, no menu entry for
digitally signing the code exists even though it is supposed to be
there. 

Do you need to add an add-in or what is the trick?

/gustav
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 20 07:57:59 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:57:59 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access
	2000
Message-ID: <s2666e16.074@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Thanks! I've browsed a lot and not seen that link but one of the links it carries:

  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q217221

One will notice that it claims to apply to:

APPLIES TO
* Microsoft Excel 2000 Standard Edition 
* Microsoft Access 2000 Standard Edition 
* Microsoft Outlook 2000 Standard Edition 
* Microsoft PowerPoint 2000 Standard Edition 
* Microsoft Word 2000 Standard Edition 
* Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications 6.0 

I wonder if anyone can confirm this for Access 2000?

/gustav


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/20 2:21 pm >>>
Gustav,

There's a pretty good article on this at http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/Pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=194 that should help you.  

Helen Fedemma has one too on her site in vol. 119.

HTH,

Jim DeMarco

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access 2000


Hi all

How do you do this?

I did an install of Access 2000 including the latest service packs etc.
and the option for creating and using a digital certificate. 
But when I go to the VB editor and pick Tools, no menu entry for
digitally signing the code exists even though it is supposed to be
there. 

Do you need to add an add-in or what is the trick?

/gustav
-- 




From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Apr 20 08:22:46 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:22:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] ODBC For AS400 with Access 2003 - solution- Documented
	Microsoft Bug
In-Reply-To: <20050419213148.56846.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050419213148.56846.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c49505042006221e6ec8bb@mail.gmail.com>

Good job figuring it out Bud and thanks for sharing the solution. 

I used to work with AS/400 data but it's close ten years ago now.
Perhaps I will again. My current employer does use an AS/400 for some
warehouse operations stuff in one of our locations, but I haven't been
called on to access it at all.

Gary


On 4/19/05, Bud Goss <bgoss711 at ameritech.net> wrote:
> I initially named this topic Use if (typo should be "of" not "if")
> HIT ODBC/400 with Access 2003
> 
> I have renamed this solution post because the problem is not exclusive to the HIT Software ODBC driver. It will occur also occur with IBM's iSeries Access driver- and probably others as well.
> 
> If you encounter this (getting a message that an "Index Aready Exists") when working with an Access 2003 database refer to the following Microsoft Knowledge Base articles
> 
> 811963
> 870753
> 837001
> 
> With my Hit software, I learned that the problem can be by-passed by un-checking the SQLStasistics option.
> 
> With the iSeries software, a couple of hotfix installs are required.I have not actually installed the hotfixs on a test machine yet, but am reasonably confident that this will resolve the issue.
> 
> Thanks to all who commented..
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Wed Apr 20 11:35:55 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David Mcafee)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:35:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050420163555.57364.qmail@web80801.mail.yahoo.com>

me too


--- Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
wrote:
> I'm working in .Net too and would find a focused
> list helpful.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Emerson [mailto:newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:45 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
> 
> 
> It looks like I need to start working with Visual
> Studio.net to web
> enable 
> some of my applications.
> 
> Does anyone know of a good user group like this one,
> or are there enough
> of 
> us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?
> 
> Regards
> 
> David Emerson
> Dalyn Software Ltd
> 25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
> Wellington, New Zealand
> Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
> Mobile 027-280-9348 
> 
> -- 
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 


From j.frederick at att.net  Wed Apr 20 12:23:05 2005
From: j.frederick at att.net (John Frederick)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:23:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Default Mail Handler for SendObject
Message-ID: <POEKKKOFLLJCHLPHPAIKIEDKCIAA.j.frederick@att.net>

I was successfully using SendObject to generate an email that popped up
in Lotus Notes, the clients standard email handler.  After an upgrade
of Office to 2002 and 2003, the email is coming up in Outlook.  The
operation fails because Outlook is not fully configured and has no
Address book entries.  Using IE Tools/Internet Options/Programs to set 
the default mail handler apparently doesn't solve the problem.  
Help.  jif



From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Apr 20 12:51:48 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:51:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F5F@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

Has anyone done this before?

I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry of... data twice to ensure accuracy."
I thought of three methods of doing this.
1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare the record with the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second table when they match.
2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry and compare the results with the table to ensure they match then delete the data. 
3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the documents without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take less time and therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper, printing, etc.....

Thoughts!

Thanks,

Jim


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 20 13:07:55 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:07:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899FA2@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I've seen this kind of requirement before.  It's a holdover from the
green screen days when operators did heads down data entry all day and
there was little or no validation at data entry and the terminal
keyboard was limited.  QA relied on data being entered twice to make
sure it matched and then handling exceptions.  It doesn't make a lot of
sense in the newer languages, and I have dealt with it in the past by
suggesting that if the business rules were clearly defined, the data
could be verified in code either before or after being committed.  A
couple of problems with double entry verification are that the second
time could be incorrect or both could be incorrect but might match.  At
that point you have validated garbage.  This criteria is often suggested
by people who have no clue as to how validation can be done in code or
by the input form itself.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:52 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement


Has anyone done this before?

I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry
of... data twice to ensure accuracy." I thought of three methods of
doing this. 1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare
the record with the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second
table when they match. 2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry
and compare the results with the table to ensure they match then delete
the data. 
3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the
documents without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take
less time and therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper,
printing, etc.....

Thoughts!

Thanks,

Jim



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Apr 20 13:10:09 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:10:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B7B79B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA31@ADGSERVER>

I favor #1 the most and #3 the least.

I guess a lot of it depends on how it will be entered.  You might consider
an unbound form where the data is entered twice and compare fields before
writing out the data record.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:52 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement


Has anyone done this before?

I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry
of... data twice to ensure accuracy."
I thought of three methods of doing this.
1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare the record with
the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second table when they match.
2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry and compare the results
with the table to ensure they match then delete the data. 
3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the documents
without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take less time and
therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper, printing, etc.....

Thoughts!

Thanks,

Jim




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 20 13:12:49 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:12:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Default Mail Handler for SendObject
References: <POEKKKOFLLJCHLPHPAIKIEDKCIAA.j.frederick@att.net>
Message-ID: <42669BA1.7010305@shaw.ca>

I believe this is  set from windows explorer File-->SendTo-->MailRecipient
You probably have to set default inside lotus notes see these methods
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q306098#XSLTH3120121125120121120120

Or give up and use this

Lotus Notes Send EMail from VB or VBA
http://www.fabalou.com/VBandVBA/lotusnotesmail.asp
or
http://cwashington.netreach.net/depo/view.asp?Index=761&ScriptType=vbscript


John Frederick wrote:

>I was successfully using SendObject to generate an email that popped up
>in Lotus Notes, the clients standard email handler.  After an upgrade
>of Office to 2002 and 2003, the email is coming up in Outlook.  The
>operation fails because Outlook is not fully configured and has no
>Address book entries.  Using IE Tools/Internet Options/Programs to set 
>the default mail handler apparently doesn't solve the problem.  
>Help.  jif
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Apr 20 13:18:39 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:18:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F64@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>


Good points!  I didn't think about the three possible outcomes for double entry.
I like the validation by input form idea.  Then possibly a random visual comparison by another person for data accuracy.
Thanks!
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement


I've seen this kind of requirement before.  It's a holdover from the
green screen days when operators did heads down data entry all day and
there was little or no validation at data entry and the terminal
keyboard was limited.  QA relied on data being entered twice to make
sure it matched and then handling exceptions.  It doesn't make a lot of
sense in the newer languages, and I have dealt with it in the past by
suggesting that if the business rules were clearly defined, the data
could be verified in code either before or after being committed.  A
couple of problems with double entry verification are that the second
time could be incorrect or both could be incorrect but might match.  At
that point you have validated garbage.  This criteria is often suggested
by people who have no clue as to how validation can be done in code or
by the input form itself.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hewson [mailto:JHewson at karta.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:52 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement


Has anyone done this before?

I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry
of... data twice to ensure accuracy." I thought of three methods of
doing this. 1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare
the record with the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second
table when they match. 2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry
and compare the results with the table to ensure they match then delete
the data. 
3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the
documents without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take
less time and therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper,
printing, etc.....

Thoughts!

Thanks,

Jim

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 20 13:20:20 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:20:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
Message-ID: <s266b9ac.085@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

This brings back memories of past times when you had typists typing in
figures they had no clue about what so ever - reading from hand written
sheets which contained errors too.

Charlotte's comment is very precise. This is a left-over from the days
where a correction could take a week, where you typed nearly blind
folded, and the only way to get a list to check your entries was to
request a print and wait for that. Today it would be waste of time. Thus
option #3.

/gustav


>>> JHewson at karta.com 04/20 7:51 pm >>>
Has anyone done this before?

I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the
entry of... data twice to ensure accuracy."
I thought of three methods of doing this.
1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare the record
with the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second table when
they match.
2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry and compare the
results with the table to ensure they match then delete the data. 
3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the
documents without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take
less time and therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper,
printing, etc.....

Thoughts!

Thanks,

Jim



From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Apr 20 13:22:13 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:22:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F65@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

That might work.
A tabbed form where the first data entry on tab 0 then second data entry on tab 1, compare data then save.
I'm going to try to change their minds before we end up double data entry.
Thanks.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement


I favor #1 the most and #3 the least.

I guess a lot of it depends on how it will be entered.  You might consider
an unbound form where the data is entered twice and compare fields before
writing out the data record.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:52 PM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement


Has anyone done this before?

I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry
of... data twice to ensure accuracy."
I thought of three methods of doing this.
1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare the record with
the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second table when they match.
2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry and compare the results
with the table to ensure they match then delete the data. 
3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the documents
without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take less time and
therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper, printing, etc.....

Thoughts!

Thanks,

Jim


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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Wed Apr 20 13:33:48 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:33:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access 2000
In-Reply-To: <s26576a1.066@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKEEKPCJAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this subject.
http://msaccessadvisor.com/


Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000. This is
better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which version of
Jet you have.

Also, unless you buy one, it appears that a user created cert will only work
on a given machine or network.

I am sure all of us will look forward to results of your investigation.


Bob Heygood




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access 2000


Hi all

How do you do this?

I did an install of Access 2000 including the latest service packs etc.
and the option for creating and using a digital certificate.
But when I go to the VB editor and pick Tools, no menu entry for
digitally signing the code exists even though it is supposed to be
there.

Do you need to add an add-in or what is the trick?

/gustav
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 20 13:47:01 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:47:01 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access
	2000
Message-ID: <s266bfe2.086@cactus.dk>

Hi Bob

Thanks, but all articles seem to require a subscription which I don't
have ...

/gustav

>>> bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/20 8:33 pm >>>
There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this
subject.
http://msaccessadvisor.com/ 


Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000. This
is
better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which version
of
Jet you have.

Also, unless you buy one, it appears that a user created cert will only
work
on a given machine or network.

I am sure all of us will look forward to results of your
investigation.


Bob Heygood




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access
2000


Hi all

How do you do this?

I did an install of Access 2000 including the latest service packs
etc.
and the option for creating and using a digital certificate.
But when I go to the VB editor and pick Tools, no menu entry for
digitally signing the code exists even though it is supposed to be
there.

Do you need to add an add-in or what is the trick?

/gustav



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 20 13:50:48 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:50:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
In-Reply-To: <s266b9ac.085@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <20050420185057.KHVY1909.ibm71aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Also, training goes a long way. Even the tightest validation can't take the
place of an informed user/operator. 

Susan H. 

Hi Jim

This brings back memories of past times when you had typists typing in
figures they had no clue about what so ever - reading from hand written
sheets which contained errors too.

Charlotte's comment is very precise. This is a left-over from the days where
a correction could take a week, where you typed nearly blind folded, and the
only way to get a list to check your entries was to request a print and wait
for that. Today it would be waste of time. Thus option #3.



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 20 13:50:27 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:50:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access
	2000
Message-ID: <s266c0b4.087@cactus.dk>

Hi Bob

But is it at all possible in A2000? I don't care that much if it is
"better" in later versions - it's not very difficult anyway.

/gustav

>>> bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/20 8:33 pm >>>
There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this
subject.
http://msaccessadvisor.com/ 


Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000. This
is
better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which version
of
Jet you have.



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 20 15:32:47 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:32:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
References: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F65@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <4266BC6F.4040505@shaw.ca>

Double Data entry used to be done by two separate operators even going 
back to the old IBM 029 card key punch verifiers (which didn't punch 
only read)
and the later key to disk systems. As the same operator may read a 9 as 
an 8 both times. Not to mention there were batch totals kept  i.e. 
number of sheets punched to ensure an operator didn't skip a sheet in a 
batch. Most data entry errors are caused by transposition of digits. 
Hence the use of checkdigits
for things like ISBN,VIN, credit cards and social security number (but 
not in US)
You might want to consider optical scanning unless the data is coming 
from handwriting.

Jim Hewson wrote:

>That might work.
>A tabbed form where the first data entry on tab 0 then second data entry on tab 1, compare data then save.
>I'm going to try to change their minds before we end up double data entry.
>Thanks.
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
>Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:10 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
>
>
>I favor #1 the most and #3 the least.
>
>I guess a lot of it depends on how it will be entered.  You might consider
>an unbound form where the data is entered twice and compare fields before
>writing out the data record.
>
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
>Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:52 PM
>To: AccessD
>Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
>
>
>Has anyone done this before?
>
>I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry
>of... data twice to ensure accuracy."
>I thought of three methods of doing this.
>1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare the record with
>the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second table when they match.
>2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry and compare the results
>with the table to ensure they match then delete the data. 
>3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the documents
>without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take less time and
>therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper, printing, etc.....
>
>Thoughts!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 20 15:34:48 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:34:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access	2000
References: <s266c0b4.087@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4266BCE8.4030409@shaw.ca>

It might be you have to have a full Office 2000 install for this to work 
as it was used in Word 2000 macros.

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Bob
>
>But is it at all possible in A2000? I don't care that much if it is
>"better" in later versions - it's not very difficult anyway.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/20 8:33 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this
>subject.
>http://msaccessadvisor.com/ 
>
>
>Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000. This
>is
>better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which version
>of
>Jet you have.
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Apr 20 16:03:05 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:03:05 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend
References: <42660C46.22600.387B492@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <000d01c545ec$78b6ee20$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello all,

thanks for the help so far, but as Charlotte suggested, i will explain a why
i need this.

My wife works in a small firm that sells rocks. I developed in recent years
a database for them, in which they can put data about the rocks and the
clients who sell them. When the firm grew bigger, they invested in a
commercial database for administration. In this database however, i can't
change anything. Because my wife don't want to ad each new client in two
different databases. So i want to use the client table from the commercial
database, because the clientID's are identical. I don't want to use a query
from this linked table, because i then have to adjust al other query's and
other tables. Because the linked table is only used as a lookup table i want
to use it, but the name of the table and the field names are different.
Because the commercial database will give the users the possibility of using
characters an numbers in the ID field, i want to change this datatype from
text to number.

I'll hope you'll understand why i asked for the possibility of making a copy
of the linked database by code or autoexec macro, and change the name, field
name and datatype of this copy?

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] changing table in linked backend


> On 19 Apr 2005 at 23:20, Pedro Janssen wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > is it possible to make a copy of the linked database by code, and change
the
> > name, field name and datatype of this copy?
> >
>
> One way would be to create a new table with the desired format either
> directly in your application database or or in a separate "backend"
> database and link to that as well as to the original table.  Then
> periodically run two queries , a delete query to clear  your new table
> followed by an Insert query of all the records from the old table into the
> new table.
>
> If there is a unique key in the old table, you can set a unique index on
> that field in the new table and forget about the delete query.
>
> Note that if you are doing this frequently, you will have to compact the
> database regularly or you will get very bad bloat.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Stuart
>
>
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From JHewson at karta.com  Wed Apr 20 16:39:00 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:39:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F68@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

The data is coming via paper.
The database will be used to collect information from paper copies of surveys.
There are seven different surveys - color coded by a survey participant attribute (youth, parent, staff).
Participant ID and protocol have been defined by the agency.
Surveys will be paired by participant, who will take at least three surveys from different color groupings.
Statistical analysis of the surveys are the end result, hence their "need" to ensure data integrity.

Thanks,
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:33 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement


Double Data entry used to be done by two separate operators even going 
back to the old IBM 029 card key punch verifiers (which didn't punch 
only read)
and the later key to disk systems. As the same operator may read a 9 as 
an 8 both times. Not to mention there were batch totals kept  i.e. 
number of sheets punched to ensure an operator didn't skip a sheet in a 
batch. Most data entry errors are caused by transposition of digits. 
Hence the use of checkdigits
for things like ISBN,VIN, credit cards and social security number (but 
not in US)
You might want to consider optical scanning unless the data is coming 
from handwriting.

Jim Hewson wrote:

>That might work.
>A tabbed form where the first data entry on tab 0 then second data entry on tab 1, compare data then save.
>I'm going to try to change their minds before we end up double data entry.
>Thanks.
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
>Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:10 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
>
>
>I favor #1 the most and #3 the least.
>
>I guess a lot of it depends on how it will be entered.  You might consider
>an unbound form where the data is entered twice and compare fields before
>writing out the data record.
>
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
>Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:52 PM
>To: AccessD
>Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
>
>
>Has anyone done this before?
>
>I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry
>of... data twice to ensure accuracy."
>I thought of three methods of doing this.
>1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare the record with
>the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second table when they match.
>2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry and compare the results
>with the table to ensure they match then delete the data. 
>3.  Recommend the second person print the record and compare the documents
>without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take less time and
>therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper, printing, etc.....
>
>Thoughts!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim
>
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 20 17:29:06 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:29:06 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86899FA2@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <42676452.16876.249E44@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 20 Apr 2005 at 11:07, Charlotte Foust wrote:

> I've seen this kind of requirement before.  It's a holdover from the
> green screen days when operators did heads down data entry all day and
> there was little or no validation at data entry and the terminal
> keyboard was limited.  QA relied on data being entered twice to make
> sure it matched and then handling exceptions.  It doesn't make a lot of
> sense in the newer languages, and I have dealt with it in the past by
> suggesting that if the business rules were clearly defined, the data
> could be verified in code either before or after being committed.  A
> couple of problems with double entry verification are that the second
> time could be incorrect or both could be incorrect but might match.  At
> that point you have validated garbage.  This criteria is often suggested
> by people who have no clue as to how validation can be done in code or
> by the input form itself.
> 

There are  many cases where no validation can be done in code, A prime 
example being the PNG Electoral Roll where we had up to 50 operators keying 
in data from enrolment forms for months. There is no way to validate DOB, 
name etc entries other than eyeballing printouts or double entry.   

We also used double entry when recording progressive results of elections 
for updating the results website.  Those again couldn't be validated in 
code and had to be accurate when posted.

> I am working on a proposal and one criteria is to "provide for the entry
> of... data twice to ensure accuracy." I thought of three methods of doing
> this. 1. Create a table for the second data entry and then compare the
> record with the first table.  Delete the record(s) of the second table when
> they match. 2.  Use an unbound form for the second data entry and compare
> the results with the table to ensure they match then delete the data. 3. 
> Recommend the second person print the record and compare the documents
> without doing a double data entry.  Suggesting it would take less time and
> therefore save money.  There is the issue of paper, printing, etc.....

Option 3 is the least accurate for a number of reasons. I'd avoid it if 
they are prepared to accept the costs of double entry.

The preferred double entry methods depends on on the situation.  

Can you have unvalidated data in your records? If so, put a flag field in 
the record and use your Option2.  Do a comparison of the results and then 
update the flag - you need to allow for modifying the record if the 
original entry is the incorrect one.

If you can't have unvalidated data, you need to store the first entry in a 
temp table until it is validated. Again, you can use an unbound form for 
the second entry, but this time instead of setting the flag, you move the 
correct(ed) data to the main table.




-- 
Stuart




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 20 17:32:19 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:32:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Double Data Entry Requirement
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C02068F65@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <42676513.15322.2793C6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

> 
> I guess a lot of it depends on how it will be entered.  You might consider
> an unbound form where the data is entered twice and compare fields before
> writing out the data record.
> 

Much less accurate than using two different people for the entry, 
especially if they are entering the same data a second time immediately 
after entering it the first time.   You will often get the same errors 
repeated in this situation.



-- 
Stuart




From Alun.Garraway at otto.de  Thu Apr 21 02:58:41 2005
From: Alun.Garraway at otto.de (Garraway, Alun)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:58:41 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case
Message-ID: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A0806BC@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>

hello,

is it possible to turn a string in upper-case
to upper-lower-case?

for example

"THIS IS BIG" to "This Is Big"

TIA :-)

alun


From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Thu Apr 21 03:11:57 2005
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:11:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CB8C@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

strMyString = LCase(strMyString) should do it...


HTH, cheers
Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de] 
Sent: 21 April 2005 08:59
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case

hello,

is it possible to turn a string in upper-case
to upper-lower-case?

for example

"THIS IS BIG" to "This Is Big"

TIA :-)

alun
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Thu Apr 21 03:13:20 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:13:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case
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Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAEWuWv67sehJncLAkHJnIUkBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Try this:

Dim strString As String

strString = "THIS IS BIG"

strString = StrConv(strString, vbProperCase)

Msgbox strString

(Should now be This Is Big)



 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Garraway, Alun
Sent: 21 April 2005 08:59
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case

hello,

is it possible to turn a string in upper-case to upper-lower-case?

for example

"THIS IS BIG" to "This Is Big"

TIA :-)

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 21 03:13:04 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:13:04 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Database models
Message-ID: <s2677cc1.094@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Sometimes you may need an example model for a project.
I located this site which could give you some ideas:

  http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/index.htm 

It does contain some real specials like:

 
http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/george_orwells_1984/index.htm

/gustav


From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Thu Apr 21 03:17:08 2005
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:17:08 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CB8D@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Alun

Sorry, I didn't read this properly, hence hasty reply.  You could split the
string into an array (Split function) and knock off the first character of
each array element.  Then add on the first letter again but capitalised,
after which you could re-join the array elements into one string (Join
function).  As far as I know, there's no function to do all this
automatically.

Cheers
Tom




-----Original Message-----
From: Garraway, Alun [mailto:Alun.Garraway at otto.de] 
Sent: 21 April 2005 08:59
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case

hello,

is it possible to turn a string in upper-case
to upper-lower-case?

for example

"THIS IS BIG" to "This Is Big"

TIA :-)

alun
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 21 03:19:55 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:19:55 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case
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On 21 Apr 2005 at 9:17, Tom Bolton wrote:

> Alun
> 
> Sorry, I didn't read this properly, hence hasty reply.  You could split the
> string into an array (Split function) and knock off the first character of
> each array element.  Then add on the first letter again but capitalised,
> after which you could re-join the array elements into one string (Join
> function).  As far as I know, there's no function to do all this
> automatically.
> 

StrConv Function
Returns a Variant (String) converted as specified. 

Syntax
StrConv(string, conversion, LCID)

The StrConv function syntax has these named arguments:

Part Description 
string Required. String expression to be converted. 

conversion Required. Integer. The sum of values specifying the type of 
conversion to perform. 

LCID Optional. The LocaleID, if different than the system LocaleID. (The 
system LocaleID is the default.) 

Settings

The conversion argument settings are:
Constant Value Description 
vbUpperCase 1 Converts the string to uppercase characters. 
vbLowerCase 2 Converts the string to lowercase characters. 
vbProperCase 3 Converts the first letter of every word in string to 
uppercase. 
vbWide* 4* Converts narrow (single-byte) characters in string to wide 
(double-byte) characters. 
vbNarrow* 8* Converts wide (double-byte) characters in string to narrow 
(single-byte) characters. 
vbKatakana** 16** Converts Hiragana characters in string to Katakana 
characters. 
vbHiragana** 32** Converts Katakana characters in string to Hiragana 
characters. 
vbUnicode 64 Converts the string to Unicode using the default code page of 
the system. (Not available on the Macintosh.) 
vbFromUnicode 128 Converts the string from Unicode to the default code page 
of the system. (Not available on the Macintosh.) 

-- 
Stuart




From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Thu Apr 21 03:32:18 2005
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:32:18 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CB8E@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Yep, got you now.  Live and learn...



-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: 21 April 2005 09:20
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case

On 21 Apr 2005 at 9:17, Tom Bolton wrote:

> Alun
> 
> Sorry, I didn't read this properly, hence hasty reply.  You could split
the
> string into an array (Split function) and knock off the first character of
> each array element.  Then add on the first letter again but capitalised,
> after which you could re-join the array elements into one string (Join
> function).  As far as I know, there's no function to do all this
> automatically.
> 

StrConv Function
Returns a Variant (String) converted as specified. 

Syntax
StrConv(string, conversion, LCID)

The StrConv function syntax has these named arguments:

Part Description 
string Required. String expression to be converted. 

conversion Required. Integer. The sum of values specifying the type of 
conversion to perform. 

LCID Optional. The LocaleID, if different than the system LocaleID. (The 
system LocaleID is the default.) 

Settings

The conversion argument settings are:
Constant Value Description 
vbUpperCase 1 Converts the string to uppercase characters. 
vbLowerCase 2 Converts the string to lowercase characters. 
vbProperCase 3 Converts the first letter of every word in string to 
uppercase. 
vbWide* 4* Converts narrow (single-byte) characters in string to wide 
(double-byte) characters. 
vbNarrow* 8* Converts wide (double-byte) characters in string to narrow 
(single-byte) characters. 
vbKatakana** 16** Converts Hiragana characters in string to Katakana 
characters. 
vbHiragana** 32** Converts Katakana characters in string to Hiragana 
characters. 
vbUnicode 64 Converts the string to Unicode using the default code page of 
the system. (Not available on the Macintosh.) 
vbFromUnicode 128 Converts the string from Unicode to the default code page 
of the system. (Not available on the Macintosh.) 

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Apr 21 03:50:38 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:50:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group
Message-ID: <200504210840.j3L8e9G26516@smarthost.yourcomms.net>


I too would be interested - there is lots of code samples/general .net
out there but nothing with the same 'personal touch' of this group.
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Les Dunn
Sent: 20 April 2005 01:56
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group


I too have some .NET applications that I would like to make available on
the 
net. I have posted questions to some of the various 
microsoft.public.dotnet... forums but have not received any quality
replies 
that have even come close to answering my questions. I would be
interested 
in hearing about any other alternative forums.
...Les

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Emerson" <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:45 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT Visual Studio.Net user Group


> It looks like I need to start working with Visual Studio.net to web 
> enable
> some of my applications.
>
> Does anyone know of a good user group like this one, or are there 
> enough
> of us using Visual Studio to start up our own list?
>
> Regards
>
> David Emerson
> Dalyn Software Ltd
> 25 Cunliffe St, Churton Park
> Wellington, New Zealand
> Ph/Fax (04) 478-7456
> Mobile 027-280-9348
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 21 03:48:46 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:48:46 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in
	Access	2000
Message-ID: <s2678531.097@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

I do have a full install of Office 2000 Professional.
Excel and Word offers digital signing, but Access is a no go.

/gustav

>>> martyconnelly at shaw.ca 04/20 10:34 pm >>>
It might be you have to have a full Office 2000 install for this to
work 
as it was used in Word 2000 macros.

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Bob
>
>But is it at all possible in A2000? I don't care that much if it is
>"better" in later versions - it's not very difficult anyway.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/20 8:33 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this
>subject.
>http://msaccessadvisor.com/ 
>
>
>Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000.
This
>is better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which
version
>of Jet you have.

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From Alun.Garraway at otto.de  Thu Apr 21 04:14:25 2005
From: Alun.Garraway at otto.de (Garraway, Alun)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:14:25 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case
Message-ID: <D096EDDAA3939B45BEAF0F506801709A017275CA@ntovmail03.ov.otto.de>

<Live and learn...>

oh yes! 

thanks for all the quick (and good) replies,
this is the place!
:-)

alun

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Tom Bolton
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case


Yep, got you now.  Live and learn...



-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: 21 April 2005 09:20
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] UPPER-CASE to Upper-Lower-Case

On 21 Apr 2005 at 9:17, Tom Bolton wrote:

> Alun
> 
> Sorry, I didn't read this properly, hence hasty reply.  You could split
the
> string into an array (Split function) and knock off the first character of
> each array element.  Then add on the first letter again but capitalised,
> after which you could re-join the array elements into one string (Join
> function).  As far as I know, there's no function to do all this
> automatically.
> 

StrConv Function
Returns a Variant (String) converted as specified. 

Syntax
StrConv(string, conversion, LCID)

The StrConv function syntax has these named arguments:

Part Description 
string Required. String expression to be converted. 

conversion Required. Integer. The sum of values specifying the type of 
conversion to perform. 

LCID Optional. The LocaleID, if different than the system LocaleID. (The 
system LocaleID is the default.) 

Settings

The conversion argument settings are:
Constant Value Description 
vbUpperCase 1 Converts the string to uppercase characters. 
vbLowerCase 2 Converts the string to lowercase characters. 
vbProperCase 3 Converts the first letter of every word in string to 
uppercase. 
vbWide* 4* Converts narrow (single-byte) characters in string to wide 
(double-byte) characters. 
vbNarrow* 8* Converts wide (double-byte) characters in string to narrow 
(single-byte) characters. 
vbKatakana** 16** Converts Hiragana characters in string to Katakana 
characters. 
vbHiragana** 32** Converts Katakana characters in string to Hiragana 
characters. 
vbUnicode 64 Converts the string to Unicode using the default code page of 
the system. (Not available on the Macintosh.) 
vbFromUnicode 128 Converts the string from Unicode to the default code page 
of the system. (Not available on the Macintosh.) 

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From Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com  Thu Apr 21 04:31:24 2005
From: Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com (Foote, Chris)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:31:24 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Database models
Message-ID: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C6A7@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>


Thanks for that Gustav!

Some interesting ideas there.

Regards
Chris Foote - UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:13 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Database models
> 
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Sometimes you may need an example model for a project.
> I located this site which could give you some ideas:
> 
>   http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/index.htm 
> 
> It does contain some real specials like:
> 
>  
> http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/george_orwells_1984
> /index.htm


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr 21 10:18:11 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:18:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
Message-ID: <000601c54685$57cbdce0$0600a8c0@ColbyM6805>

I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I can
do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
laptop.

I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP address.
I set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running.
I set up the firewall to do port forwarding to her machine
I run the client on my laptop and attempt to connect to her machine.  

I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client runs,
doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login screen,
nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I try to
start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC viewer
opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it again,
and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy opens,
displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my client.
Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server on
her machine.  

I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been in
place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in to
her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host" kind of
message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to the
web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her router,
and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in itself
is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but
I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her
end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently connects
but will not display.

Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find these
symptoms on Google but come up empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Apr 21 11:29:10 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:29:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2003 Runtime Directory
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376F718@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

When creating a runtime version of my application, the program forces
the designation of a folder in which the application will be installed
for the user.  I want to be able to designate my own folder, like
c:\NIOSH.  The app is forcing c:\Program Files\ and other rooty places.

What if the user installing the package does not have permissions to add
a folder to their program files directory?  Will this program create the
folder designated, for instance: c:\Program Files\NIOSH\ <appname>

Is there a way I can tell the app to install on a directory of my
choice, like c:\NIOSH?  Overall, I like the deployment wizard except for
this question.

Thanks.  Tomorrow is Friday, Joke Day.  Be Prepared.


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Apr 21 11:38:07 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:38:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B7B98F@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA39@ADGSERVER>

Stupid question, but is it possible the in addition to Sygate running, that
the MS firewall is also running?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:18 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I can
do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
laptop.

I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP address. I
set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running. I set up the
firewall to do port forwarding to her machine I run the client on my laptop
and attempt to connect to her machine.  

I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client runs,
doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login screen,
nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I try to
start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC viewer
opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it again,
and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy opens,
displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my client.
Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server on
her machine.  

I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been in
place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in to
her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host" kind of
message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to the
web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her router,
and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in itself
is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but
I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her
end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently connects
but will not display.

Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find these
symptoms on Google but come up empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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http://folding.stanford.edu/



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr 21 11:45:33 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:45:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA39@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <000b01c54691$8ca73de0$0600a8c0@ColbyM6805>

Good thought but nope, definitely turned off on both machines.  In general
if ANY firewall interferes a message is generated by the VNC client saying
it can't connect.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:38 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


Stupid question, but is it possible the in addition to Sygate running, that
the MS firewall is also running?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:18 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I can
do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
laptop.

I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP address. I
set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running. I set up the
firewall to do port forwarding to her machine I run the client on my laptop
and attempt to connect to her machine.  

I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client runs,
doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login screen,
nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I try to
start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC viewer
opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it again,
and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy opens,
displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my client.
Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server on
her machine.  

I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been in
place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in to
her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host" kind of
message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to the
web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her router,
and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in itself
is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but
I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her
end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently connects
but will not display.

Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find these
symptoms on Google but come up empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Thu Apr 21 12:13:55 2005
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:13:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Change data in a linked SQL Server table
Message-ID: <01B619CB8F6C8C478EDAC39191AEC51E04151829@doesefpeml02.eus.fldoe.int>

I am using AccessXP.  I used to be able to link to a SQL Server table and
change the data in it (Access2000).  No can do now.  Any suggestions?  

 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 



From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Thu Apr 21 12:16:42 2005
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (Randall R Anthony)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:16:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Change data in a linked SQL Server table
Message-ID: <200504211717.j3LHH7A17989@databaseadvisors.com>

Could it be missing an index and is therefor un-updateable?

>>> Susan.Klos at fldoe.org 4/21/2005 1:13:55 PM >>>
I am using AccessXP.  I used to be able to link to a SQL Server table
and
change the data in it (Access2000).  No can do now.  Any suggestions? 


 

Susan Klos

Senior Database Analyst

Evaluation and Reporting

Florida Department of Education

850-245-0708 

sc 205-0708

 

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From Developer at UltraDNT.com  Thu Apr 21 12:30:46 2005
From: Developer at UltraDNT.com (Steve Conklin (Developer@UltraDNT))
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:30:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Outlook from Access - what does Exchange Admin have to do
	-xpost
In-Reply-To: <000601c54685$57cbdce0$0600a8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <003901c54697$de27e650$0700a8c0@CONKEY2000>

Users are in Office XP and want email from my Access app.  I remember
reading that, to by-pass the security warnings, besides Redemption and
CLickYes (which are client based), that the Exchange admin can "allow"
applications at the server to send mail. I would prefer this method.

As we are both off-site, how do I make this request so that it makes
sense to him without me being there? (Eg, "Allow my app to Send Mail
from Security Settings in WHAT IS IT" or "Go into BLAH, click YADA,
un-check STUFF"). Not even sure, does he allow Msaccess.exe or
MyApp.mdb/e?

TIA,
Steve





From max at sherman.org.uk  Thu Apr 21 13:48:00 2005
From: max at sherman.org.uk (accessd)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 19:48:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
In-Reply-To: <000601c54685$57cbdce0$0600a8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050421184756.SJFB10174.aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@server>

Hi John,
If both computers are running XP then check out "remote assistance" in
Windows Help. 
Regards
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 21 April 2005 16:18
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display

I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I can
do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
laptop.

I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP address.
I set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running.
I set up the firewall to do port forwarding to her machine I run the client
on my laptop and attempt to connect to her machine.  

I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client runs,
doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login screen,
nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I try to
start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC viewer
opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it again,
and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy opens,
displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my client.
Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server on
her machine.  

I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been in
place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in to
her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host" kind of
message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to the
web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her router,
and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in itself
is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but
I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her
end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently connects
but will not display.

Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find these
symptoms on Google but come up empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Apr 21 14:06:13 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:06:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
In-Reply-To: <20050421184756.SJFB10174.aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@server>
Message-ID: <000c01c546a5$33196e60$0600a8c0@ColbyM6805>

You know, I tried this.  What a mess it was.  Have you ever managed to get
it to work?  It appears to use Messenger to notify the remote computer that
assistance was needed, which never successfully connected.  Also I think
that this requires someone to "request" assistance.  I need to be able to
get in any time of day or night.

The price for an upgrade to WinXP Pro is pretty steep but in the end I may
need to have her do that.  Then I can just do remote desktop.  Of course if
I can't get that to work for some reason, after spending $120 for the
upgrade.....

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of accessd
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:48 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


Hi John,
If both computers are running XP then check out "remote assistance" in
Windows Help. 
Regards
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 21 April 2005 16:18
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display

I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I can
do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
laptop.

I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP address. I
set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running. I set up the
firewall to do port forwarding to her machine I run the client on my laptop
and attempt to connect to her machine.  

I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client runs,
doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login screen,
nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I try to
start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC viewer
opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it again,
and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy opens,
displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my client.
Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server on
her machine.  

I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been in
place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in to
her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host" kind of
message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to the
web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her router,
and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in itself
is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but
I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her
end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently connects
but will not display.

Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find these
symptoms on Google but come up empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From KIsmert at TexasSystems.com  Thu Apr 21 14:42:50 2005
From: KIsmert at TexasSystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:42:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Database models
In-Reply-To: <97CF276BD8C6D4119C4B00508BB18DE709E0C6A7@ntscxch1.int.rdel.co.uk>
Message-ID: <003f01c546aa$4e08ee80$2a3ca8c0@TEXASSYSTEMS.COM>


I don't think they are a very good database modeling agency -- I sent them
photos of myself in a swimsuit, and I never heard back. I don't understand
how they could reject a fine slab of geek flesh like me. Those young SQL
Server vixens must be getting all the exposure.

Leering older programmer to young woman:
    "Would you like to learn data modeling?"
Young woman:
    "No, but I'd like to date a model!"

Sorry -- my jokes are a day early ;)

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Foote, Chris [mailto:Chris.Foote at uk.thalesgroup.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 4:31 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Database models



Thanks for that Gustav!

Some interesting ideas there.

Regards
Chris Foote - UK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:13 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Database models
>
>
> Hi all
>
> Sometimes you may need an example model for a project.
> I located this site which could give you some ideas:
>
>   http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/index.htm
>
> It does contain some real specials like:
>
>
> http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/george_orwells_1984
> /index.htm





From Robert at servicexp.com  Thu Apr 21 16:24:59 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:24:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
Message-ID: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4E70@gbsserver.GBS.local>

John,
 I have used it many time without any problems. Works VERY well. Its
under "Accessories >> Communications then Remote Desktop connection. You
need to have your sister set "Allow users to connect remotely to this
computer" in system properties on the remote tab.

Robert Gracie

 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 3:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display

You know, I tried this.  What a mess it was.  Have you ever managed to
get it to work?  It appears to use Messenger to notify the remote
computer that assistance was needed, which never successfully connected.
Also I think that this requires someone to "request" assistance.  I need
to be able to get in any time of day or night.

The price for an upgrade to WinXP Pro is pretty steep but in the end I
may need to have her do that.  Then I can just do remote desktop.  Of
course if I can't get that to work for some reason, after spending $120
for the upgrade.....

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of accessd
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:48 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


Hi John,
If both computers are running XP then check out "remote assistance" in
Windows Help. 
Regards
Max


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 21 April 2005 16:18
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display

I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I
can do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on
my laptop.

I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP
address. I set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running.
I set up the firewall to do port forwarding to her machine I run the
client on my laptop and attempt to connect to her machine.  

I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client
runs, doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login
screen, nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC
Client is running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.
If I try to start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of
the VNC viewer opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If
I run it again, and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time,
ANOTHER copy opens, displays the login screen, and allows me access to
the desktop of my client.
Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server
on her machine.  

I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been
in place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log
in to her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the
host" kind of message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are
getting out to the web, through the No-IP translation, back to her
router, THROUGH her router, and are blocked by Sygate if it is running
on her machine.  That in itself is the other problem since I have
VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but I need to tackle one problem
at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her end and then the VNC
client I am trying to connect just silently connects but will not
display.

Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find
these symptoms on Google but come up empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr 21 18:59:42 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:59:42 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] FW: A2003:Size of an Email String SOLVED
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901407D98@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Thanks Erwin 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
IT Helps
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2005 6:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] FW: A2003:Size of an Email String SOLVED

Please note that the SMTP server that you will use will probably deny
that quantity of adresses in 1 mail.

It really depends on who manages your SMTP server, some limit to 50
adresses some 999.

Please check with your company IT manager if you have your own SMTP
server or with your internet provider if one used from the ISP.

Erwin

 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 8:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] FW: A2003:Size of an Email String SOLVED

Hello all
Never mind
Found the answer at...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;149217

See ya

DD



-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Dick
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2005 4:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: A2003:Size of an Email String

Hello all
I am building a string of email addresses to include in the BCC field of
an outlook email message

I have discovered if I have about 400 recipients then the email ends up
in my drafts folder ready to go With a big long BCC string - So far so
good - The string length of all the emails is about 6000 characters
~+or- When there is approx 400 Email addresses

But as soon as I get above that (Say 500 or even 1,100 email addresses)
the email does not appear in the drafts folder The string length with
1100 email addresses is about 24,000 characters ~+or-

I am thinking there is some limit to the number of characters in
Outlook's BCC field Does anyone know about this?
Or can anyone point me in the direction of an answer?

Many thanks

Darren
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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr 21 19:05:08 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:05:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Size of an Email String
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901407D9E@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Stuart
Thanks (again) for the reply
Firstly, what's RFC 2821?

Anyway...It seems to be up and working now
I have given my users 2 methods to send emails - depending on what they
want to do.
Method 1 uses redemption and loops through a recordset and produces an
email for each recipient.
The second method doesn't use redemption and just creates a big long BCC
string

Re your comment on a FAN-OUT - have you done this before? If so, how
have you done it?

RE BLAT - Thanks for the offer -  I will contact you off list about Blat
:-))

Many thanks 

Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2005 8:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:Size of an Email String

On 18 Apr 2005 at 16:28, Darren Dick wrote:

> 
> I have discovered if I have about 400 recipients then the email ends 
> up in my drafts folder ready to go With a big long BCC string - So far

> so good - The string length of all the emails is about 6000 characters

> ~+or- When there is approx 400 Email addresses
> 
> But as soon as I get above that (Say 500 or even 1,100 email 
> addresses) the email does not appear in the drafts folder

Note that RFC 2821 only requires a server to accept 100 recipients.  If
your list is greater than that, it is quite possible that only the first
100 will be accepted/delivered by your mail server. Some ISPs are also
imposing limits below this, in contravention of the RFC, to try to
control spam runs.

You have a couple of options, one is to send the email with only 100
recipients each time (a so called "fan-out"). The other is to build your
messages and send them one at a time by shelling out to a command line
mailer such as Blat.  I've got a couple of Access apps that use Blat to
send out 2-3000 emails.

If you want more info on using Blat with Access, contact me off-list.





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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 21 19:31:07 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 10:31:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Size of an Email String
In-Reply-To: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901407D9E@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <4268D26B.23301.5BAB04A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 22 Apr 2005 at 10:05, Darren Dick wrote:

> Hi Stuart
> Thanks (again) for the reply
> Firstly, what's RFC 2821?
> 

RFC = Request For Comments. The name of the result and the process for 
creating a standard on the Internet. New standards are proposed and 
published on line, as a "Request For Comments." The Internet Engineering 
Task Force is a consensus-building body that facilitates discussion, and 
eventually a new standard is established, but the reference number/name for 
the standard retains the acronym RFC

See http://www.rfc.net/

As for RFC 2821:
<quote>
Network Working Group                                 J. Klensin, Editor
Request for Comments: 2821                             AT&T Laboratories
Obsoletes: 821, 974, 1869                                     April 2001
Updates: 1123
Category: Standards Track


                     Simple Mail Transfer Protocol

Status of this Memo

   This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the
   Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for
   improvements.  Please refer to the current edition of the "Internet
   Official Protocol Standards" (STD 1) for the standardization state
   and status of this protocol.  Distribution of this memo is unlimited.

Copyright Notice

   Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2001).  All Rights Reserved.

Abstract

   This document is a self-contained specification of the basic protocol
   for the Internet electronic mail transport.  It consolidates, updates
   and clarifies, but doesn't add new or change existing functionality
   of the following:

   -  the original SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) specification of
      RFC 821 [30],

   -  domain name system requirements and implications for mail
      transport from RFC 1035 [22] and RFC 974 [27],

   -  the clarifications and applicability statements in RFC 1123 [2],
      and

   -  material drawn from the SMTP Extension mechanisms [19].

   It obsoletes RFC 821, RFC 974, and updates RFC 1123 (replaces the
   mail transport materials of RFC 1123).  However, RFC 821 specifies
   some features that were not in significant use in the Internet by the
   mid-1990s and (in appendices) some additional transport models.
   Those sections are omitted here in the interest of clarity and
   brevity; readers needing them should refer to RFC 821.
</quote>

You really should be familiar with the relevant RFCs if you are 
programmatically accessing internet services be they ftp, http, email or 
whatever.



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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Apr 21 20:04:32 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:04:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
References: <000601c54685$57cbdce0$0600a8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <003701c546d7$3f0bfb70$6401a8c0@user>

John - I struggled getting VNC working for some clients (and I still haven't succeeeded with some) but for most I just had to permit VNC through their  firewall, which you've done and then on my PC completely shut down ZoneAlarm to let it through. For now shut down ALL firewalls (as opposed to just changing the settings) to see if that is the problem.

If that isn't any help then I would go to http://www.realvnc.com/lists.html and subscribe to their VNC forum so that you can then post a question - I have found them quote helpful.

HTH
Kath


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John W. Colby 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:18 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


  I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I can
  do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
  laptop.

  I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP address.
  I set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running.
  I set up the firewall to do port forwarding to her machine
  I run the client on my laptop and attempt to connect to her machine.  

  I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client runs,
  doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login screen,
  nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
  running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I try to
  start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC viewer
  opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it again,
  and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy opens,
  displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my client.
  Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server on
  her machine.  

  I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been in
  place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in to
  her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host" kind of
  message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to the
  web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her router,
  and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in itself
  is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but
  I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her
  end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently connects
  but will not display.

  Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find these
  symptoms on Google but come up empty.

  John W. Colby
  www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From max at sherman.org.uk  Thu Apr 21 21:30:36 2005
From: max at sherman.org.uk (accessd)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:30:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
In-Reply-To: <000c01c546a5$33196e60$0600a8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050422023030.IKRN10174.aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@server>

Hi John,
I have only used it once and yes, it does us MSN Messenger and appeared to
be working ok.  The other replies to you seem to suggest it is the firewalls
and this might be why it is not working ok on Remote Assistance as well.
What I would do is to do a "System Restore" backup on both pcs and then turn
off all fire-walling and try again.  You would be vulnerable for a few
minutes but it would at least identify where the problem lies.  Like another
respondee, I also had a lot of firewall problems with Zone Alarm and finally
stopped using it.  I also had problems with VNC and Real VNC and stopped
using them as well.
Good luck
Max 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 21 April 2005 20:06
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display

You know, I tried this.  What a mess it was.  Have you ever managed to get
it to work?  It appears to use Messenger to notify the remote computer that
assistance was needed, which never successfully connected.  Also I think
that this requires someone to "request" assistance.  I need to be able to
get in any time of day or night.

The price for an upgrade to WinXP Pro is pretty steep but in the end I may
need to have her do that.  Then I can just do remote desktop.  Of course if
I can't get that to work for some reason, after spending $120 for the
upgrade.....

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of accessd
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:48 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


Hi John,
If both computers are running XP then check out "remote assistance" in
Windows Help. 
Regards
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 21 April 2005 16:18
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display

I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that I can
do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
laptop.

I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP address. I
set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running. I set up the
firewall to do port forwarding to her machine I run the client on my laptop
and attempt to connect to her machine.  

I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client runs,
doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login screen,
nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I try to
start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC viewer
opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it again,
and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy opens,
displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my client.
Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the server on
her machine.  

I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has been in
place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in to
her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host" kind of
message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to the
web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her router,
and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in itself
is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as "allowed", but
I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router on her
end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently connects
but will not display.

Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find these
symptoms on Google but come up empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr 21 21:31:08 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 12:31:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:Size of an Email String
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901407EB8@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Brilliant - love this stuff - thanks again

Talk soon

D
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Friday, 22 April 2005 10:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003:Size of an Email String

On 22 Apr 2005 at 10:05, Darren Dick wrote:

> Hi Stuart
> Thanks (again) for the reply
> Firstly, what's RFC 2821?
> 

RFC = Request For Comments. The name of the result and the process for
creating a standard on the Internet. New standards are proposed and
published on line, as a "Request For Comments." The Internet Engineering
Task Force is a consensus-building body that facilitates discussion, and
eventually a new standard is established, but the reference number/name
for the standard retains the acronym RFC

See http://www.rfc.net/

As for RFC 2821:
<quote>
Network Working Group                                 J. Klensin, Editor
Request for Comments: 2821                             AT&T Laboratories
Obsoletes: 821, 974, 1869                                     April 2001
Updates: 1123
Category: Standards Track


                     Simple Mail Transfer Protocol

Status of this Memo

   This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the
   Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for
   improvements.  Please refer to the current edition of the "Internet
   Official Protocol Standards" (STD 1) for the standardization state
   and status of this protocol.  Distribution of this memo is unlimited.

Copyright Notice

   Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2001).  All Rights Reserved.

Abstract

   This document is a self-contained specification of the basic protocol
   for the Internet electronic mail transport.  It consolidates, updates
   and clarifies, but doesn't add new or change existing functionality
   of the following:

   -  the original SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) specification of
      RFC 821 [30],

   -  domain name system requirements and implications for mail
      transport from RFC 1035 [22] and RFC 974 [27],

   -  the clarifications and applicability statements in RFC 1123 [2],
      and

   -  material drawn from the SMTP Extension mechanisms [19].

   It obsoletes RFC 821, RFC 974, and updates RFC 1123 (replaces the
   mail transport materials of RFC 1123).  However, RFC 821 specifies
   some features that were not in significant use in the Internet by the
   mid-1990s and (in appendices) some additional transport models.
   Those sections are omitted here in the interest of clarity and
   brevity; readers needing them should refer to RFC 821.
</quote>

You really should be familiar with the relevant RFCs if you are
programmatically accessing internet services be they ftp, http, email or
whatever.



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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Thu Apr 21 22:09:06 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:09:06 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901407EF0@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi all
I appreciate this is way OT :-))

If I hold down ALT and Type 0489 in MS Access I get the French E with the little thingo above it (?)
If I do it in Word (Or even in Outlook) I get ?

What is the Correct key stokes in Word to get ?

Many thanks in advance

Darren



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 21 22:47:40 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:47:40 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
In-Reply-To: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901407EF0@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <4269007C.10494.485C0C@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 22 Apr 2005 at 13:09, Darren Dick wrote:

> Hi all
> I appreciate this is way OT :-))
> 
> If I hold down ALT and Type 0489 in MS Access I get the French E with the little thingo above it (?)
> If I do it in Word (Or even in Outlook) I get 
> 
> What is the Correct key stokes in Word to get ?
> 

Try  Alt+0233 for lower case or ALt+0201 for uppercase,

 You could have answered this yourself if you had grabbed a copy of the 
Extended Character Map that I recommended the other day:

<quote>
A great little tool for answering this sort of question quickly is the 
Pricelessware (http://www.pricelesswar.org) recommended utility:

Extended Character Map
(Freeware)
Windows OS: Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000
Languages: English
Description: Extended Character Map is like the Windows Character Map 
utility but uses much bigger, easier-to-see characters. The utility is 
especially useful for viewing the pictures in a symbol or Dingbat font. 
Characters can be seen up to 100pt size. No more squinting at Webding 
characters trying to figure out "is that a race car or a textile factory?". 

The keystroke name is displayed in the program's status bar. The 
Decimal/Hex/Oct/Binary values are also displayed. Additionally, you can 
view the fonts with one or more attributes selected (Bold, Italic, 
Underline, Strikeout). Using ExtendedCharacterMap, any character or series 
of characters can be quickly copied to the clipboard.
Company: -- Author: Sony Arianto Kurniawan

Program description:
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6166,00.asp

download v 1.41 (extended.zip) (189 KB)
http://ftp.pcworld.com/pub/new/desktop/fonts/extended.zip 

</quote>
-- 
Stuart




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 21 23:12:02 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:12:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
References: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901407EF0@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <42687992.8050809@shaw.ca>

In Word press  Ctrl and '  then press Shift E  It is an E acute or 201 
decimal in extended Ansi
To see the lot of keyboard shortcuts in Word Menu Insert--> Symbol and 
probably select Arial it has full unicode symbols
there is a current controversy among the French
concerning whether one should put accents on capital letters, and that
whether those letters are majuscules or capitales  makes a
difference (this is suggested in the excerpt from le Bon Usage  there
are other people making stronger arguments based upon the same
principle).

  Majuscules = handwritten capital letters
    Capitales  = printed or typed capital letters

My head hurts on this one.  I am a t?te carr?.


Darren Dick wrote:

>Hi all
>I appreciate this is way OT :-))
>
>If I hold down ALT and Type 0489 in MS Access I get the French E with the little thingo above it (?)
>If I do it in Word (Or even in Outlook) I get ?
>
>What is the Correct key stokes in Word to get ?
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren
>
>  
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us  Fri Apr 22 07:38:56 2005
From: nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us (Neal Kling)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:38:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
Message-ID: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F284@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>

Your link to Pricelessware is broken. It should be http://www.pricelessware.org

Neal

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters


On 22 Apr 2005 at 13:09, Darren Dick wrote:

> Hi all
> I appreciate this is way OT :-))
> 
> If I hold down ALT and Type 0489 in MS Access I get the French E with the little thingo above it (?)
> If I do it in Word (Or even in Outlook) I get 
> 
> What is the Correct key stokes in Word to get ?
> 

Try  Alt+0233 for lower case or ALt+0201 for uppercase,

 You could have answered this yourself if you had grabbed a copy of the 
Extended Character Map that I recommended the other day:

<quote>
A great little tool for answering this sort of question quickly is the 
Pricelessware (http://www.pricelesswar.org) recommended utility:

Extended Character Map
(Freeware)
Windows OS: Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000
Languages: English
Description: Extended Character Map is like the Windows Character Map 
utility but uses much bigger, easier-to-see characters. The utility is 
especially useful for viewing the pictures in a symbol or Dingbat font. 
Characters can be seen up to 100pt size. No more squinting at Webding 
characters trying to figure out "is that a race car or a textile factory?". 

The keystroke name is displayed in the program's status bar. The 
Decimal/Hex/Oct/Binary values are also displayed. Additionally, you can 
view the fonts with one or more attributes selected (Bold, Italic, 
Underline, Strikeout). Using ExtendedCharacterMap, any character or series 
of characters can be quickly copied to the clipboard.
Company: -- Author: Sony Arianto Kurniawan

Program description:
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6166,00.asp

download v 1.41 (extended.zip) (189 KB)
http://ftp.pcworld.com/pub/new/desktop/fonts/extended.zip 

</quote>
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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Fri Apr 22 07:54:02 2005
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:54:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE03AC48@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

I just wanted to add, I stumbled upon logmein which is a web based
remote tool.  There is the free version which will do everything you
would want to do to support a single computer.  There is also the paid
version (more bells and whistles and allows for more connections/users),
however for a single computer the free one will do just fine.
https://secure.logmein.com/go.asp?page=products_free It is web based so
you can take over a computer from anywhere by going to the website,
logging in and seeing a list of the computers you support then simply
take it over using the browser.

I tested it from home to work and vice versa, with Syagte firewall on
both machines.  It worked very easily.  Again I only did 1 test with it,
as my company got the VPN working therefore didn't need it so I don't
have any working knowledge of performance and such.  To my knowledge
there are not any Trojans, adware, or spyware involved.. 

Maybe someone on this list can add any experiences they've had with this
tool as I think John would be interested as would I and potentially
others as well.  

Rich 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


John - I struggled getting VNC working for some clients (and I still
haven't succeeeded with some) but for most I just had to permit VNC
through their  firewall, which you've done and then on my PC completely
shut down ZoneAlarm to let it through. For now shut down ALL firewalls
(as opposed to just changing the settings) to see if that is the
problem.

If that isn't any help then I would go to
http://www.realvnc.com/lists.html and subscribe to their VNC forum so
that you can then post a question - I have found them quote helpful.

HTH
Kath


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John W. Colby 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:18 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


  I am trying to setup VNC to run on my sister-in-law's computer so that
I can
  do tech support.  Windows XP Home on her machine, Windows XP Pro on my
  laptop.

  I set up no-ip.com so that there is a dynamic tracking of her IP
address.
  I set up the server on her machine and it seems to be running.
  I set up the firewall to do port forwarding to her machine
  I run the client on my laptop and attempt to connect to her machine.  

  I have a couple of issues, but the immediate issue is that the client
runs,
  doesn't give any error message, but also doesn't pop up the login
screen,
  nor display anything at all.  If I look in Task manager, VNC Client is
  running in the Processes tab but NOT in the Applications tab.  If I
try to
  start it again, connecting to her machine, ANOTHER copy of the VNC
viewer
  opens, does not display, but appears in Task Manager.  If I run it
again,
  and connect to a client where I VNC in all the time, ANOTHER copy
opens,
  displays the login screen, and allows me access to the desktop of my
client.
  Thus it appears that it is something to do with connecting to the
server on
  her machine.  

  I run Sygate personal on both my Laptop and on her machine.  It has
been in
  place and functioning on both machines for months.  IF I try to log in
to
  her machine with the firewall running, I get a "can't find the host"
kind of
  message from VNC, so I know that the VNC requests are getting out to
the
  web, through the No-IP translation, back to her router, THROUGH her
router,
  and are blocked by Sygate if it is running on her machine.  That in
itself
  is the other problem since I have VNC.EXE listed in Sygate as
"allowed", but
  I need to tackle one problem at a time.  I disable the Sygate router
on her
  end and then the VNC client I am trying to connect just silently
connects
  but will not display.

  Does anyone have a clue what is happening here?  I have tried to find
these
  symptoms on Google but come up empty.

  John W. Colby
  www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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  http://folding.stanford.edu/


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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Apr 22 08:05:53 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:05:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B7BABA@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA44@ADGSERVER>

Max,

I have used TightVNC to connect to my home PC from work  for about 6 months
now.  What kind of problems were you having?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of accessd
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: VNC client doesn't display


Hi John,
I have only used it once and yes, it does us MSN Messenger and appeared to
be working ok.  The other replies to you seem to suggest it is the firewalls
and this might be why it is not working ok on Remote Assistance as well.
What I would do is to do a "System Restore" backup on both pcs and then turn
off all fire-walling and try again.  You would be vulnerable for a few
minutes but it would at least identify where the problem lies.  Like another
respondee, I also had a lot of firewall problems with Zone Alarm and finally
stopped using it.  I also had problems with VNC and Real VNC and stopped
using them as well. Good luck Max 



From pennwhite at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 22 08:30:42 2005
From: pennwhite at hotmail.com (Penn White)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:30:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
References: <30BC111F638EB54082001A7E7282FE4107F284@elmo.co.montgomery.ny.us>
Message-ID: <BAY107-DAV12D414832B690FBCEA6365BD2D0@phx.gbl>

This also might work:

http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6166,00.asp

Penn

> Your link to Pricelessware is broken. It should be 
> http://www.pricelessware.org


From jmhla at earthlink.net  Fri Apr 22 10:46:19 2005
From: jmhla at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 08:46:19 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Going away for a few days
Message-ID: <200504221546.j3MFkDA01289@databaseadvisors.com>

I need to be with out isp  for a few days to make a dsl switch.

 

Watch for me to return with a new address soon.

 

Joe Hecht

jmhla at earthlink.net

28g

 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 22 16:28:49 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:28:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in	Access	2000
References: <s2678531.097@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <42696C91.9000201@shaw.ca>

I don't know unless something is buried on the CD, look for something 
like makecert
 or maybe it is accessed from a project menu.


Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Marty
>
>I do have a full install of Office 2000 Professional.
>Excel and Word offers digital signing, but Access is a no go.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>martyconnelly at shaw.ca 04/20 10:34 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>It might be you have to have a full Office 2000 install for this to
>work 
>as it was used in Word 2000 macros.
>
>Gustav Brock wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi Bob
>>
>>But is it at all possible in A2000? I don't care that much if it is
>>"better" in later versions - it's not very difficult anyway.
>>
>>/gustav
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>>bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/20 8:33 pm >>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this
>>subject.
>>http://msaccessadvisor.com/ 
>>
>>
>>Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000.
>>    
>>
>This
>  
>
>>is better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which
>>    
>>
>version
>  
>
>>of Jet you have.
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From pennwhite at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 22 16:53:37 2005
From: pennwhite at hotmail.com (Penn White)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 17:53:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Set control to 'edit' in VBA?
Message-ID: <BAY107-DAV14DEA8C5E0846AA8D5DEECBD2D0@phx.gbl>

Does anyone know of a way to send a user back to a control and have it 
already be in Edit Mode (F2) when they get there?

I can send the user back using Me!MyControl.SetFocus but then the field is 
entirely highlighted and if they type anything before hitting F2 then the 
entire highlighted data will be replaced by the new character(s).

I'm using it in a custom validation routine for phone numbers.  If they type 
in an incorrect number of numbers or start with a '1' or enter illegal alpha 
or extended characters, it pops up a message telling them to try again. 
Before checking the number for length, all the extraneous characters (like 
( or ) or - or " ") are stripped and then if it is a valid 10 character 
integer, it is reformatted to a standard format.  This is done in the OnExit 
event because sometimes the phone numbers are cut and pasted from somewhere 
else and this does not trigger the AfterUpdate event.  There may be a better 
way to do this but this is the one I've come up with so far.

I believe I saw somewhere that there is a way to do this globally for the 
entire database but I'd rather just have it apply as I need it.  Generally, 
I find it's good to have everything highlighted when you enter a control.

Thank you,

Penn 


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Apr 22 18:19:55 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:19:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Set control to 'edit' in VBA?
In-Reply-To: <2555731.1114207032782.JavaMail.root@sniper17>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA+IT7T2MtvU2ycn9dOj0aRAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Penn,

You can make a global change by going to Tools|Options, selecting the
Keyboard tab, and making the appropriate choice under Behavior Entering
Field.

To select all the text in a field regardless of the choice from above you
can do this in the field's Enter event:

    txtPhoneNumber.SelStart = 0
    txtPhoneNumber.SelLength = Len(txtPhoneNumber)


HTH,
Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Penn White
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Set control to 'edit' in VBA?

Does anyone know of a way to send a user back to a control and have it 
already be in Edit Mode (F2) when they get there?

I can send the user back using Me!MyControl.SetFocus but then the field is 
entirely highlighted and if they type anything before hitting F2 then the 
entire highlighted data will be replaced by the new character(s).

I'm using it in a custom validation routine for phone numbers.  If they type

in an incorrect number of numbers or start with a '1' or enter illegal alpha

or extended characters, it pops up a message telling them to try again. 
Before checking the number for length, all the extraneous characters (like 
( or ) or - or " ") are stripped and then if it is a valid 10 character 
integer, it is reformatted to a standard format.  This is done in the OnExit

event because sometimes the phone numbers are cut and pasted from somewhere 
else and this does not trigger the AfterUpdate event.  There may be a better

way to do this but this is the one I've come up with so far.

I believe I saw somewhere that there is a way to do this globally for the 
entire database but I'd rather just have it apply as I need it.  Generally, 
I find it's good to have everything highlighted when you enter a control.

Thank you,

Penn 
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Apr 23 10:18:02 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 10:18:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAfDY69YBUqEOoTah9AOZkNAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

To All,

 

Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought up
the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept is
that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

 

This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which is
actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
old way of doing business.  

 

I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular income
stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might be
easier to get into.

 

Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
method?

 

 

Dan Waters

 



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Apr 23 10:38:13 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:38:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAfDY69YBUqEOoTah9AOZkNAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <006801c5481a$760b0370$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Dan:

I've never done it that way.  I don't think my clients would want an 
on-going fee once the project is completed.  But I do progress bill them. 
Every time I run up about $1000 (sometimes $500 if they're slow pay or I 
don't know them well) I send them an invoice.  Once the project is done I 
bill them per hour if they need maintenance or additions.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
To: "Database Advisors" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:18 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


To All,



Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought up
the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept is
that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)



This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which is
actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
old way of doing business.



I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular income
stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might be
easier to get into.



Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
method?





Dan Waters



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From greggs at msn.com  Sat Apr 23 11:31:37 2005
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:31:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAfDY69YBUqEOoTah9AOZkNAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV120F124A250008EF766D28C62E0@phx.gbl>

It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing decision nearly a no-brainer.

The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for another solution.

I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
  To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  To All,

   

  Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought up
  the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept is
  that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
  services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

   

  This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
  discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
  have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which is
  actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
  if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
  old way of doing business.  

   

  I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
  have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
  continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular income
  stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might be
  easier to get into.

   

  Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
  software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
  method?

   

   

  Dan Waters

   

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Apr 23 12:11:51 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:11:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
In-Reply-To: <5306186.1114275009451.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAxsTxDLzV7Uy7aFKTY3nxLAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Gregg,

Do you have an approximate ratio between the 'lump sum' payment and the
monthly payment?

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gregg
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:32 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the
customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
decision nearly a no-brainer.

The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that
what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications
quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for
another solution.

I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I
can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions
and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they
would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because
of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract
(where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that
it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
(once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
  To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  To All,

   

  Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought
up
  the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept
is
  that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
  services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

   

  This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
  discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
  have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which
is
  actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
  if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
  old way of doing business.  

   

  I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
  have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
  continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
income
  stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might
be
  easier to get into.

   

  Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
  software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
  method?

   

   

  Dan Waters

   

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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Apr 23 15:52:35 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:52:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E75@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E75@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <426AB593.3000708@rogers.com>

I'm still around but I may have lost the builder you mention in a 
similar HD crash. (That's the big problem with these 80+ GB hard disks. 
Even with a dual-density DVD burner, I'm still back in the dark ages of 
FastBack!)

I'll scout a few backup CDs and see if it's there. I do know that it's 
not on either of my 80 GB HDs.

Arthur

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>I think I got one from Arthur Fuller but I think it was on my last PC (that crashed).
>
>Is Arthur lurking about?
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Neal Kling
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:11 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder
>
>
>It was either for 97 or 2K. It's been a couple/few of years since I've used it and I don't recall.
>
>Neal
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
>Foust
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:02 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder
>
>
>The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
>version of Access was it for?
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
>
>
>I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
>remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
>basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
>module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with the
>records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.
>
>I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
>not it.
>
>Any help?
>
>Thanks,
>Neal
>  
>


From artful at rogers.com  Sat Apr 23 15:55:22 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:55:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E7A@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2E7A@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <426AB63A.90203@rogers.com>

No, Jim, I wrote my own, based on the class stuff in ADH. Since I am 
currently unemployed, maybe I'll rewrite it if I cannot find it on one 
of my backup CDs.

A.

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>That description does sound familiar Gustav.  Maybe Arthur got it from Larry and forwarded to me (I don't think I'm familiar with Larry).
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim D.
>
>  
>


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Apr 23 18:45:42 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:45:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
In-Reply-To: <5306186.1114275009451.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA8vI47S8zH0uNpzDycrvMwAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Gregg,

I remember in a past job that if we modified an item that was purchased as a
capital item, any modifications to it had to be reviewed to change the value
of that capital item for accounting reasons.  But, there was no such review
needed with an expensed item because it didn't have capital value.

Perhaps that's what's happening with your customers when they are now asking
for additions and enhancements???

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gregg
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:32 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the
customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
decision nearly a no-brainer.

The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that
what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications
quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for
another solution.

I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I
can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions
and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they
would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because
of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract
(where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that
it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
(once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
  To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
  Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  To All,

   

  Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought
up
  the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept
is
  that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
  services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

   

  This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
  discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
  have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which
is
  actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
  if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
  old way of doing business.  

   

  I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
  have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
  continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
income
  stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might
be
  easier to get into.

   

  Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
  software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
  method?

   

   

  Dan Waters

   

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From greggs at msn.com  Sat Apr 23 19:17:54 2005
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:17:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAxsTxDLzV7Uy7aFKTY3nxLAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
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Not really.  Most of our customers had spent a consistent amount for the last few years.  We took that amount and divided by 12.  We tend to market ourselves as a service company that provides Access programming, consulting, web solutions and system management.  

We did do one project where the customer was paying a monthly fee for a competitor's web solution that didn't do all he wanted to do.  We replicated the solution in Access and also hosted his application.  The customer switched the monthly fee to us and I would say it was about a 12 month payout.

But it doesn't really matter unless your front end labor is going to far exceed your cash flow.  If you're only getting say a third of you real labor paid back in the first 3 months you're going to be eating less and sleeping less.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:11 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  Gregg,

  Do you have an approximate ratio between the 'lump sum' payment and the
  monthly payment?

  Dan Waters


  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com<mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com>
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gregg
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:32 AM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

  It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the
  customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
  decision nearly a no-brainer.

  The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that
  what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications
  quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for
  another solution.

  I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
  customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
  year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
  billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I
  can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

  Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions
  and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they
  would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because
  of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract
  (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that
  it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
  (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com>> 
    To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>> 
    Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
    Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


    To All,

     

    Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought
  up
    the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept
  is
    that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
    services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

     

    This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
    discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
    have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which
  is
    actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
    if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
    old way of doing business.  

     

    I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
    have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
    continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
  income
    stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might
  be
    easier to get into.

     

    Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
    software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
    method?

     

     

    Dan Waters

     

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 24 00:00:50 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:00:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA8vI47S8zH0uNpzDycrvMwAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
Message-ID: <426B2802.6030802@shaw.ca>

Just as a matter of interest I was looking at one of the major software 
packages for practice mamagement
in legal firms, Time Matters  the intial cost for a solo practice is 
$1000, but what is amazing is most lawyers also cough up
the $950 a year for quick tech support without blinking.

Dan Waters wrote:

>Gregg,
>
>I remember in a past job that if we modified an item that was purchased as a
>capital item, any modifications to it had to be reviewed to change the value
>of that capital item for accounting reasons.  But, there was no such review
>needed with an expensed item because it didn't have capital value.
>
>Perhaps that's what's happening with your customers when they are now asking
>for additions and enhancements???
>
>Dan Waters
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gregg
>Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:32 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the
>customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
>decision nearly a no-brainer.
>
>The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that
>what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications
>quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for
>another solution.
>
>I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
>customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
>year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
>billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I
>can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 
>
>Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions
>and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they
>would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because
>of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract
>(where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that
>it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
>(once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
>  To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
>  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
>  Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>  To All,
>
>   
>
>  Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought
>up
>  the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept
>is
>  that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
>  services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)
>
>   
>
>  This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
>  discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
>  have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which
>is
>  actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
>  if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
>  old way of doing business.  
>
>   
>
>  I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
>  have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
>  continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
>income
>  stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might
>be
>  easier to get into.
>
>   
>
>  Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
>  software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
>  method?
>
>   
>
>   
>
>  Dan Waters
>
>   
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 24 01:36:32 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:36:32 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
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Message-ID: <0IFF00E6UUCTBA@l-daemon>

Hi Dan:

I have used a similar payment schedule by charging a client a flat rate per
month as a sort of insurance plan. They have a guarantee that if any thing
goes wrong it will be fixed and I have a steady amount coming in. One client
has been following this method for over fifteen years. They are happy and it
has fairly balanced out over the years.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:18 AM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

To All,

 

Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought up
the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept is
that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

 

This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which is
actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
old way of doing business.  

 

I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular income
stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might be
easier to get into.

 

Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
method?

 

 

Dan Waters

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 24 01:44:39 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:44:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
In-Reply-To: <426AB593.3000708@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <0IFF00E5EUQCJV@l-daemon>

Hi Arthur:

I have been using a method of always acquiring a computer with two hard
drives of equal size. I try to duplicate one drive to the other on the
belief the both drives will not fail together. My business is on a network
and various backup are automatically done back and forward between the
computers. It may be a bit of over-kill but a few crashes have resulted in
no code loss....knock on plastic.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 1:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Class module builder

I'm still around but I may have lost the builder you mention in a 
similar HD crash. (That's the big problem with these 80+ GB hard disks. 
Even with a dual-density DVD burner, I'm still back in the dark ages of 
FastBack!)

I'll scout a few backup CDs and see if it's there. I do know that it's 
not on either of my 80 GB HDs.

Arthur

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>I think I got one from Arthur Fuller but I think it was on my last PC (that
crashed).
>
>Is Arthur lurking about?
>
>Jim DeMarco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Neal Kling
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:11 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder
>
>
>It was either for 97 or 2K. It's been a couple/few of years since I've used
it and I don't recall.
>
>Neal
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte
>Foust
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:02 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Class module builder
>
>
>The one Dev and Terry built is the only one I ever worked with.  What
>version of Access was it for?
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Neal Kling [mailto:nkling at co.montgomery.ny.us] 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:41 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
>
>
>I used to have a utility that would build a class module. I don't
>remember whether it was implimented as a module or a form or what, but
>basically I'd pass it the name of a table and it would build a class
>module, complete with get/let statements that would let me work with the
>records. I've lost it and I'm looking for it.
>
>I found Dev Ashish and Terry Kreft's Class Builder Wizard, but that's
>not it.
>
>Any help?
>
>Thanks,
>Neal
>  
>
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 24 16:33:11 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:33:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
Message-ID: <20050424213315.SAHC2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

This is from a reader -- I've tried but can't come up with an answer. If I
put the WHERE countID <> 57 in the subquery, SQL ignores it (kind of) -- I
understand what's going on, but that's the gist of it. I can't figure out
how to exclude the countID = 57 records from the main query, and I've not
come up with a single SELECT that'll do it. 
 
I didn't include the mdb file -- if anyone's up for the challenge, I'll be
glad to send it. 
 
Susan H. 

  _____  




Susan,
 
I am sorry for "bothering" you, but I have been attempting to implement the
technique of yours that is detailed at this location:
http://www.devx.com/dbzone/Article/9570/1954?pf=true.
 
The results are not as expected. I will attach my database for you so you
can see for yourself, but below is an explanation of what I am attempting to
do.
I have two tables that are being used in this process. Species and CBCData.
The Species table contains a list of 423 species of birds that HAVE been
seen in Missouri. The CBCData table contains the species that have been
reported on various birding outings.
 
Near the very end of the CBCData table are two outings. These are identified
by the countID. One is 57 and the other is 62. For my purposes we are
working with the outing information from 57 only.
 
My goal is to generate a list of species that were NOT reported on the
countID=57 count by comparing the species that were reported
(CBCData.specID) with the TOTAL list of possible species in the
Species.specID field.
 
OK... First, there were 86 species reported in countID=57. Therefor a report
showing the species that were NOT reported should show (423 - 86 = 337) ...
337 species NOT reported.
 
HOWEVER, my query generates a completely different number (208)... I can't
discern WHY...  IT SHOULD REPORT 337....
 
Can you assist?
 
 


From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 24 17:42:52 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:42:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050424224253.44570.qmail@web20425.mail.yahoo.com>

In your sub query are you saying...
 
In (Select countID From SomeTable Where countID <> 57)

Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
This is from a reader -- I've tried but can't come up with an answer. If I
put the WHERE countID <> 57 in the subquery, SQL ignores it (kind of) -- I
understand what's going on, but that's the gist of it. I can't figure out
how to exclude the countID = 57 records from the main query, and I've not
come up with a single SELECT that'll do it. 

I didn't include the mdb file -- if anyone's up for the challenge, I'll be
glad to send it. 

Susan H. 

_____ 




Susan,

I am sorry for "bothering" you, but I have been attempting to implement the
technique of yours that is detailed at this location:
http://www.devx.com/dbzone/Article/9570/1954?pf=true.

The results are not as expected. I will attach my database for you so you
can see for yourself, but below is an explanation of what I am attempting to
do.
I have two tables that are being used in this process. Species and CBCData.
The Species table contains a list of 423 species of birds that HAVE been
seen in Missouri. The CBCData table contains the species that have been
reported on various birding outings.

Near the very end of the CBCData table are two outings. These are identified
by the countID. One is 57 and the other is 62. For my purposes we are
working with the outing information from 57 only.

My goal is to generate a list of species that were NOT reported on the
countID=57 count by comparing the species that were reported
(CBCData.specID) with the TOTAL list of possible species in the
Species.specID field.

OK... First, there were 86 species reported in countID=57. Therefor a report
showing the species that were NOT reported should show (423 - 86 = 337) ...
337 species NOT reported.

HOWEVER, my query generates a completely different number (208)... I can't
discern WHY... IT SHOULD REPORT 337....

Can you assist?


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 24 18:00:50 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:00:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <20050424224253.44570.qmail@web20425.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050424230049.TUJO2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Yes

SELECT Species.SpecID
FROM Species
WHERE
NOT EXISTS
(SELECT CBCData.CountID From CBCData  WHERE CBCData.CountID <> 57)
ORDER BY Species.SpecID

Returns no records

SELECT Species.SpecID
FROM Species
WHERE
EXISTS
(SELECT CBCData.CountID From CBCData WHERE CBCData.CountID <> 57)
ORDER BY Species.SpecID 

Returns them all. 

Using this syntamx, there's no relationship between the two SELECT
statements. 
I've tried adding a join to the mix -- in the sub and the main -- but
haven't been successful yet. 

Susan H. 



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Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 6:43 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL challenge

In your sub query are you saying...
 
In (Select countID From SomeTable Where countID <> 57)

Susan Harkins <ssharkins at bellsouth.net> wrote:
This is from a reader -- I've tried but can't come up with an answer. If I
put the WHERE countID <> 57 in the subquery, SQL ignores it (kind of) -- I
understand what's going on, but that's the gist of it. I can't figure out
how to exclude the countID = 57 records from the main query, and I've not
come up with a single SELECT that'll do it. 

I didn't include the mdb file -- if anyone's up for the challenge, I'll be
glad to send it. 

Susan H. 

_____ 




Susan,

I am sorry for "bothering" you, but I have been attempting to implement the
technique of yours that is detailed at this location:
http://www.devx.com/dbzone/Article/9570/1954?pf=true.

The results are not as expected. I will attach my database for you so you
can see for yourself, but below is an explanation of what I am attempting to
do.
I have two tables that are being used in this process. Species and CBCData.
The Species table contains a list of 423 species of birds that HAVE been
seen in Missouri. The CBCData table contains the species that have been
reported on various birding outings.

Near the very end of the CBCData table are two outings. These are identified
by the countID. One is 57 and the other is 62. For my purposes we are
working with the outing information from 57 only.

My goal is to generate a list of species that were NOT reported on the
countID=57 count by comparing the species that were reported
(CBCData.specID) with the TOTAL list of possible species in the
Species.specID field.

OK... First, there were 86 species reported in countID=57. Therefor a report
showing the species that were NOT reported should show (423 - 86 = 337) ...
337 species NOT reported.

HOWEVER, my query generates a completely different number (208)... I can't
discern WHY... IT SHOULD REPORT 337....

Can you assist?


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 24 18:39:01 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:39:01 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <20050424230049.TUJO2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20050424224253.44570.qmail@web20425.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <426CBAB5.21685.248BB68@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 24 Apr 2005 at 19:00, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Yes
> 
> SELECT Species.SpecID
> FROM Species
> WHERE
> NOT EXISTS
> (SELECT CBCData.CountID From CBCData  WHERE CBCData.CountID <> 57)
> ORDER BY Species.SpecID
> 
...

> Using this syntamx, there's no relationship between the two SELECT
> statements. 
> I've tried adding a join to the mix -- in the sub and the main -- but
> haven't been successful yet. 


That's because you aren't selecting SpecID from CBCData, your're selecting 
CountID.

Try something like (aircode)

SELECT Species.SpecID
FROM Species
WHERE
SpecID NOT IN
(SELECT DISTINCT CBCData.SpecID From CBCData Where CBCData.CountID = 57)


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 24 18:56:02 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:56:02 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <20050424230049.TUJO2032.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <20050424224253.44570.qmail@web20425.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <426CBEB2.7886.2584FDE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Just had a look at the article referenced and I see the aim is to use 
EXISTS (even though the EXISTS  seems like overkill).

Looks like you wrote you article without really understanding your subject. 
:-)  

In your own words from the article "SQL's EXISTS predicate specifies a 
subquery and then compares a value against the existence of one or more 
rows in that subquery. The subquery returns True when the subquery contains 
any rows and False when it doesn't."

So you need to establish a relationship within the subquery between the 
master record and the subquery records so that you can evaluate True or 
False  FOR EACH instance of  Species.SpecID. You need something like:

> WHERE
> NOT EXISTS
> (SELECT CBCData.SpecID From CBCData  WHERE CBCData.SpecID = Species.SpecID and CBCData.CountID = 57)

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sun Apr 24 19:06:44 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:06:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <426CBEB2.7886.2584FDE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20050425000649.JKKG2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Thanks Stuart -- that did it. I had tried an In operator as well, I just
wasn't getting it right. I knew why the EXISTS wasn't working -- that was
the reader's choice, not mine -- but I couldn't get it right. 

Susan H. 

Just had a look at the article referenced and I see the aim is to use EXISTS
(even though the EXISTS  seems like overkill).

Looks like you wrote you article without really understanding your subject. 
:-)  

============Did I say something in the article that wasn't true? 

Susan H. 



From nd500_lo at charter.net  Sun Apr 24 19:21:41 2005
From: nd500_lo at charter.net (Dian)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:21:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <000501c53991$0c760730$697aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <41dmfb$pvkfil@mxip06a.cluster1.charter.net>



OK...John, I've waited patiently as long as I can manage. Did everything go
as planned on the 14th?



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 24 19:42:20 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:42:20 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <20050425000649.JKKG2467.imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <426CBEB2.7886.2584FDE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <426CC98C.16891.282B1C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 24 Apr 2005 at 20:06, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Looks like you wrote you article without really understanding your subject. 
> :-)  
> 
> ============Did I say something in the article that wasn't true? 
> 

No, you just didn't apply what was in the article in your solution :-)

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Apr 24 20:13:45 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:13:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAfDY69YBUqEOoTah9AOZkNAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
	<BAY103-DAV120F124A250008EF766D28C62E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004101c54934$07407900$6401a8c0@user>

Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion. Additional work quoted separately.

So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I convert that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that I get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long does the arrangement run for??? 

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gregg 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing decision nearly a no-brainer.

  The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for another solution.

  I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

  Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
    To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
    Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
    Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


    To All,

     

    Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought up
    the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept is
    that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
    services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

     

    This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
    discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
    have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which is
    actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
    if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
    old way of doing business.  

     

    I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
    have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
    continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular income
    stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might be
    easier to get into.

     

    Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
    software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
    method?

     

     

    Dan Waters

     

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Apr 24 20:57:00 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:57:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <41dmfb$pvkfil@mxip06a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <002c01c5493a$18b31ed0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yep, we are officially adoptive parents to our two children - Robbie and
Allie.  Last Thursday was the big day, it all went smoothly.  My sister and
mom were here from Arizona, two sister-in-laws from Syracuse/Rochester and
many of the DCF support people.  Sister Sarah rented a limo for the occasion
- "what a BIIIIIIG car" from Robbie, the 4 year old.  ;-)  

Then Sunday a party with about 25 people plus a bunch of kids (most of whom
are foster or adopted).  8-)  

Mom n sis left Tuesday morning 7am and Mary and I and kids headed out about
noon to Syracuse / Rochester for spring break which is why no word after
that.  We just got back tonight about 6pm.  

And now... the fun begins...  <grin>.  Allie is the youngest, 2 years old.
I am 51, which means I will be around 70 by the time she leaves home -
assuming I survive.  <VBG>

Next summer, if all goes as planned, we will move to North Carolina where we
will live for the rest of our lives.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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OK...John, I've waited patiently as long as I can manage. Did everything go
as planned on the 14th?

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Apr 24 21:24:01 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:24:01 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <002c01c5493a$18b31ed0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <41dmfb$pvkfil@mxip06a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID: <426CE161.25651.2DFC973@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 24 Apr 2005 at 21:57, John W. Colby wrote:

> 
> And now... the fun begins...  <grin>.  Allie is the youngest, 2 years old.
> I am 51, which means I will be around 70 by the time she leaves home -
> assuming I survive.  <VBG>
> 

Plenty of time. My Cheryl Anne turns 3 in June and I'm 56. :-)

 



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Apr 24 22:46:14 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:46:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
References: <002c01c5493a$18b31ed0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <00fd01c54949$5476a8b0$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

>From one old dad to another:

Mazel tov.  There are no better days.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 6:57 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


> Yep, we are officially adoptive parents to our two children - Robbie and
> Allie.  Last Thursday was the big day, it all went smoothly.  My sister 
> and
> mom were here from Arizona, two sister-in-laws from Syracuse/Rochester and
> many of the DCF support people.  Sister Sarah rented a limo for the 
> occasion
> - "what a BIIIIIIG car" from Robbie, the 4 year old.  ;-)
>
> Then Sunday a party with about 25 people plus a bunch of kids (most of 
> whom
> are foster or adopted).  8-)
>
> Mom n sis left Tuesday morning 7am and Mary and I and kids headed out 
> about
> noon to Syracuse / Rochester for spring break which is why no word after
> that.  We just got back tonight about 6pm.
>
> And now... the fun begins...  <grin>.  Allie is the youngest, 2 years old.
> I am 51, which means I will be around 70 by the time she leaves home -
> assuming I survive.  <VBG>
>
> Next summer, if all goes as planned, we will move to North Carolina where 
> we
> will live for the rest of our lives.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dian
> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:22 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
>
>
>
>
> OK...John, I've waited patiently as long as I can manage. Did everything 
> go
> as planned on the 14th?
>
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Apr 24 23:30:49 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:30:49 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
References: <002c01c5493a$18b31ed0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <001f01c5494f$8f0b1780$6401a8c0@user>

<<whichmeansIwillbearound70bythetimesheleaveshome

.....there are some calculations which you just shouldn't do!!........

Congratulations - Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John W. Colby 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 11:57 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


  Yep, we are officially adoptive parents to our two children - Robbie and
  Allie.  Last Thursday was the big day, it all went smoothly.  My sister and
  mom were here from Arizona, two sister-in-laws from Syracuse/Rochester and
  many of the DCF support people.  Sister Sarah rented a limo for the occasion
  - "what a BIIIIIIG car" from Robbie, the 4 year old.  ;-)  

  Then Sunday a party with about 25 people plus a bunch of kids (most of whom
  are foster or adopted).  8-)  

  Mom n sis left Tuesday morning 7am and Mary and I and kids headed out about
  noon to Syracuse / Rochester for spring break which is why no word after
  that.  We just got back tonight about 6pm.  

  And now... the fun begins...  <grin>.  Allie is the youngest, 2 years old.
  I am 51, wh                                                                ichmeansIwillbearound70bythetimesheleaveshome-assumingIsurvive.VBGNextsummer,ifallgoesasplanned,wewillmovetoNorthCarolinawherewewilllivefortherestofourlives.JohnW.Colbywww.ColbyConsulting.zl6ContributeyourunusedCPU cycles to a good cause:
  http://folding.stanford.edu/

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  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
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  OK...John, I've waited patiently as long as I can manage. Did everything go
  as planned on the 14th?

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Apr 24 23:49:08 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:49:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] DBA web site search Archives
In-Reply-To: <426CBAB5.21685.248BB68@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <0IFH00H39K1TCI@l-daemon>

Hi All:

There is a new extended Archive data search form. I assembled it but Bryan
created it. See: http://www.databaseadvisors.com/archive/archive.htm

Thanks Bryan
Jim  



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Apr 25 00:47:01 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 01:47:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life
In-Reply-To: <001f01c5494f$8f0b1780$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <003401c5495a$342484e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Denial is the elixir of life.  ;-)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 12:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


<<whichmeansIwillbearound70bythetimesheleaveshome

.....there are some calculations which you just shouldn't do!!........

Congratulations - Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John W. Colby 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 11:57 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Going live in the game of life


  Yep, we are officially adoptive parents to our two children - Robbie and
  Allie.  Last Thursday was the big day, it all went smoothly.  My sister
and
  mom were here from Arizona, two sister-in-laws from Syracuse/Rochester and
  many of the DCF support people.  Sister Sarah rented a limo for the
occasion
  - "what a BIIIIIIG car" from Robbie, the 4 year old.  ;-)  

  Then Sunday a party with about 25 people plus a bunch of kids (most of
whom
  are foster or adopted).  8-)  

  Mom n sis left Tuesday morning 7am and Mary and I and kids headed out
about
  noon to Syracuse / Rochester for spring break which is why no word after
  that.  We just got back tonight about 6pm.  

  And now... the fun begins...  <grin>.  Allie is the youngest, 2 years old.
  I am 51, wh
ichmeansIwillbearound70bythetimesheleaveshome-assumingIsurvive.VBGNextsummer
,ifallgoesasplanned,wewillmovetoNorthCarolinawherewewilllivefortherestofourl
ives.JohnW.Colbywww.ColbyConsulting.zl6ContributeyourunusedCPU cycles to a
good cause:
  http://folding.stanford.edu/

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  OK...John, I've waited patiently as long as I can manage. Did everything
go
  as planned on the 14th?

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From boogieloogie at gmail.com  Mon Apr 25 07:15:04 2005
From: boogieloogie at gmail.com (Boogie Loogie)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:15:04 -0300
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 question. Preventing a duplicate value from
	being added to a listbox
In-Reply-To: <3bf43ee9050425051178412cc4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3bf43ee9050425051178412cc4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3bf43ee90504250515575167ef@mail.gmail.com>

Hello. I have a list box populated with a value list thus no table
involved. I am trying to prevent duplicate values from being added but
thus far have not been able to solve this. The problem is that if I
add a value of 123 to the list I can no longer add 1,2,3,12,or 23.
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks

BL

ACCESS 97 CODE

Private Sub cmdAddPid_Click()
With Me
    Beep
    If Not IsNull(!txtPID) And !txtPID <> Trim("") Then
        Call addItem(!lstPID, Trim(!txtPID))
    End If
End With
End Sub

Public Sub addItem(aList As ListBox, aString As String)
Dim i As Long
Dim checking As String

For i = 1 To Len(aList.RowSource) - Len(aString)
    checking = Mid(aList.RowSource, i, Len(aString))
    If checking = aString Then
        If Len(checking) = Len(aString) Then
            Exit Sub
        End If
    End If
Next i

aList.RowSource = aList.RowSource & Chr$(34) & aString & Chr$(34) & ";"
End Sub


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Apr 25 07:44:53 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:44:53 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 question. Preventing a duplicate value
	frombeing added to a listbox
Message-ID: <s26d0271.046@cactus.dk>

Hi BL

Include Chr(34) in your search/checking: Chr$(34) & aString & Chr$(34)

/gustav

>>> boogieloogie at gmail.com 04/25 2:15 pm >>>
Hello. I have a list box populated with a value list thus no table
involved. I am trying to prevent duplicate values from being added but
thus far have not been able to solve this. The problem is that if I
add a value of 123 to the list I can no longer add 1,2,3,12,or 23.
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks

BL

ACCESS 97 CODE

Private Sub cmdAddPid_Click()
With Me
    Beep
    If Not IsNull(!txtPID) And !txtPID <> Trim("") Then
        Call addItem(!lstPID, Trim(!txtPID))
    End If
End With
End Sub

Public Sub addItem(aList As ListBox, aString As String)
Dim i As Long
Dim checking As String

For i = 1 To Len(aList.RowSource) - Len(aString)
    checking = Mid(aList.RowSource, i, Len(aString))
    If checking = aString Then
        If Len(checking) = Len(aString) Then
            Exit Sub
        End If
    End If
Next i

aList.RowSource = aList.RowSource & Chr$(34) & aString & Chr$(34) &
";"
End Sub



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 25 08:02:35 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:02:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <426CC98C.16891.282B1C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20050425130236.LPZP2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


No, you just didn't apply what was in the article in your solution :-)

==========The article's solution? If you're talking about the reader's
solution -- the reader's the one that tried to use EXISTS. I did try, but of
course, it failed, and I understood why after trying. I wasn't looking for
an EXISTS solution, just a solution. Hope that makes sense. 

I can't really control what readers try to do with my stuff. :) I often
start in the wrong places myself. 

Susan H. 



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Mon Apr 25 08:16:35 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:16:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Class module builder
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2EF2@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

That's what I thought.  It worked pretty well as I recall. Can't figure for the life of me how I misplaced it though.  It wouldn't have been a VB app would it?

Jim D.

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Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 4:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Class module builder


No, Jim, I wrote my own, based on the class stuff in ADH. Since I am 
currently unemployed, maybe I'll rewrite it if I cannot find it on one 
of my backup CDs.

A.

Jim DeMarco wrote:

>That description does sound familiar Gustav.  Maybe Arthur got it from Larry and forwarded to me (I don't think I'm familiar with Larry).
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim D.
>
>  
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From boogieloogie at gmail.com  Mon Apr 25 08:35:53 2005
From: boogieloogie at gmail.com (Boogie Loogie)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:35:53 -0300
Subject: [AccessD] Access 97 question. Preventing a duplicate value
	frombeing added to a listbox
In-Reply-To: <s26d0271.046@cactus.dk>
References: <s26d0271.046@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <3bf43ee905042506354cbccafa@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/25/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi BL
> 
> Include Chr(34) in your search/checking: Chr$(34) & aString & Chr$(34)
> 
> /gustav
> 

Hi gustav. Thank you. I got you for some points on ee as well.

Bye

BL


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Apr 25 09:03:51 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:03:51 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <20050425130236.LPZP2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <426CC98C.16891.282B1C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <426D8567.172.5608037@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 25 Apr 2005 at 9:02, Susan Harkins wrote:

> 
> ==========The article's solution? If you're talking about the reader's
> solution -- the reader's the one that tried to use EXISTS. I did try, but of
> course, it failed, and I understood why after trying. I wasn't looking for
> an EXISTS solution, just a solution. Hope that makes sense. 
> 

The reader said he/she was trying to implement the technique from your 
article about EXISTS.  You said that you had tried to come up with a 
solution using EXISTS but it failed.  I was just pointing out that the only 
reason the reader and your  EXISTS solutions failed was the lack of a 
relationship in the sub-query andf that you could do it using:

WHERE
NOT EXISTS
(SELECT CBCData.SpecID From CBCData  WHERE CBCData.SpecID = 
Species.SpecID and CBCData.CountID = 57)

-- 
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From greggs at msn.com  Mon Apr 25 09:32:13 2005
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:32:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAfDY69YBUqEOoTah9AOZkNAEAAAAA@usinternet.com><BAY103-DAV120F124A250008EF766D28C62E0@phx.gbl>
	<004101c54934$07407900$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV1536BEB009A5EC87085F96C6200@phx.gbl>

Kath,

I tend to convert everything to hours.  My estimates are broken down by hours and totaled.  Only at the end are they multiplied by an hourly rate.  I want the customer to believe (1) this is a service not a commodity, (2) before this project is finished there will many changes and additions requiring additional hours and (3) when we are finished he will think of 10 more things he will like to have.  Simply stated, this is going to be a long-term, by-the-hour relationship.  I then report every month where those hours are spent.

If I was quoting a $10,000 project at say $50/hr that would be 200 hours.  I would quote $1000/month for 10 months with the first payment up front.  I would report every month the hours and the balance on that project plus whatever additional services they asked for under that project's name or a Misc category.  Obviously, their payments would continue past the 10 months until the balance is paid.  Hopefully by this time you have built a positive relationship and identified lots more to do to justify continuing the payments or even some lower payments.  The long term goal is to sell the customer that there will always be a need for your services and he might as well budget for it annually.  

Obviously whatever arrangements you make are going to have a negative impact on your cash flow.  Essentially some of the hours you work today you won't get paid on until 6 months from now. If you don't have money in the bank, you need to be very careful about how far you extend terms on the first project and how often you do it. 

Hope this helps.

Gregg

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kath Pelletti<mailto:KP at sdsonline.net> 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion. Additional work quoted separately.

  So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I convert that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that I get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long does the arrangement run for??? 

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Gregg 
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
    Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


    It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing decision nearly a no-brainer.

    The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for another solution.

    I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

    Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com>> 
      To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>> 
      Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
      Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


      To All,

       

      Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought up
      the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept is
      that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
      services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

       

      This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
      discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
      have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which is
      actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
      if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
      old way of doing business.  

       

      I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
      have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
      continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular income
      stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might be
      easier to get into.

       

      Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
      software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
      method?

       

       

      Dan Waters

       

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 25 09:35:43 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:35:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] SQL challenge
In-Reply-To: <426D8567.172.5608037@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20050425143542.PBJG22125.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I understand -- I tried it and it didn't work and after just a minute, I had
figured out why -- but I couldn't come up with any other solution that
worked. :( The reader will be grateful for you help. 

Susan H. 

On 25 Apr 2005 at 9:02, Susan Harkins wrote:

> 
> ==========The article's solution? If you're talking about the reader's 
> solution -- the reader's the one that tried to use EXISTS. I did try, 
> but of course, it failed, and I understood why after trying. I wasn't 
> looking for an EXISTS solution, just a solution. Hope that makes sense.
> 

The reader said he/she was trying to implement the technique from your
article about EXISTS.  You said that you had tried to come up with a
solution using EXISTS but it failed.  I was just pointing out that the only
reason the reader and your  EXISTS solutions failed was the lack of a
relationship in the sub-query andf that you could do it using:

WHERE
NOT EXISTS
(SELECT CBCData.SpecID From CBCData  WHERE CBCData.SpecID = Species.SpecID
and CBCData.CountID = 57)

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Apr 25 09:48:37 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 09:48:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
In-Reply-To: <6151691.1114391916683.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAumWFpI10lkS82c/+LeHtggEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Hi Kath,

I talked with an accountant this morning.  He said that a capitalized
software purchase is depreciated over 3 years (straight-line).  This 'seems'
to indicate that asking them to pay 1/36th of the 'purchase' amount every
month from now on would be OK.  A $10,000 purchase would equate to a $278
monthly payment.  The $278 is regular income to you, and does not end.  

Instead of some fraction of the purchase price, you could try to calculate
the monthly value they get, and then charge a portion of that.  This is a
pretty reasonable approach - the customer pays for less than the value they
get for as long as they are getting it.

They could drop out at any time after 6 (or 12?) months - so the risk is on
you to provide something that is worth more to them each month than they pay
each month.  There will need to be a mechanism (or good contract) to turn
off the software if they decide to discontinue.  

What I think I'll do is offer continuing Tech Support and Warranty for as
long as they use the software.  So I'll offer a Purchase License and a TSW
License - customer's choice.  And, they can convert a TSW License to a
Purchase License whenever they like.

However - do you license your software or are you contracting with them to
provide software that they will own?  If they will own it, then you'll have
to come up with some additional service to make it worth their money. 

** On my website there is a spreadsheet intended for prospective customers
to enable them to calculate for themselves the productivity increase they
will experience by using my software to automate a business process.  Go to
www.promationsystems.com/download.htm.  Download the compressed file that
has an instruction document, an instructional video, and the spreadsheet.
If you are a member of the AccessD list you have my permission to modify the
spreadsheet for your business.  (I used Windows Media Encoder 9.0 to create
the screen capture video.)


Dan Waters




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully
customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a
job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion.
Additional work quoted separately.

So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I convert
that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that I
get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do
that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long does
the arrangement run for??? 

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gregg 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the
customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
decision nearly a no-brainer.

  The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different
that what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications
quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for
another solution.

  I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I
can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

  Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions
and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they
would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because
of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract
(where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that
it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
(once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
    To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
    Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
    Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


    To All,

     

    Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought
up
    the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept
is
    that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
    services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

     

    This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
    discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
    have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which
is
    actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little
shocked
    if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to
the
    old way of doing business.  

     

    I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I
would
    have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
    continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
income
    stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which
might be
    easier to get into.

     

    Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
    software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
    method?

     

     

    Dan Waters

     

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From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr 25 12:06:45 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:06:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050425100641395ea@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Group,

The Access 2003 Help has this to say about LEFT JOINS:

"Left outer joins include all of the records from the first (left) of
two tables, even if there are no matching values for records in the
second (right) table."

I've done Left and Right Joins so many times over the years I can't
count them. Now I'm puzzled by one that should be butt-simple. Here's
the task: List all of the Donation categories and the sum of the
Donation amounts for a specific time period. Make sure that the
Donation category list contains every category whether there were
donations during the period or not.

Here's the SQL:

SELECT
  DonationCategories.CategoryDescr, 
  Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations 
FROM DonationCategories 
LEFT JOIN DollarsDonated 
ON DonationCategories.CategoryKey = DollarsDonated.CategoryKey
WHERE (((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And #3/31/2005#)) 
GROUP BY DonationCategories.CategoryDescr; 

There are 13 Donation Categories. The result set should have 13
records. It does not. It only has 11 for the categories where there
were donations in the period, it appears.

What am I missing?


Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
www.swerbach.com
Security Page: www.swerbach.com/security


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Apr 25 12:13:28 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:13:28 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
Message-ID: <s26d417d.050@cactus.dk>

Hi Steve

You need to move the filtering to a subquery. Then left join that and
not the unfiltered table.

/gustav


>>> erbachs at gmail.com 04/25 7:06 pm >>>
Dear Group,

The Access 2003 Help has this to say about LEFT JOINS:

"Left outer joins include all of the records from the first (left) of
two tables, even if there are no matching values for records in the
second (right) table."

I've done Left and Right Joins so many times over the years I can't
count them. Now I'm puzzled by one that should be butt-simple. Here's
the task: List all of the Donation categories and the sum of the
Donation amounts for a specific time period. Make sure that the
Donation category list contains every category whether there were
donations during the period or not.

Here's the SQL:

SELECT
  DonationCategories.CategoryDescr, 
  Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations 
FROM DonationCategories 
LEFT JOIN DollarsDonated 
ON DonationCategories.CategoryKey = DollarsDonated.CategoryKey
WHERE (((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And
#3/31/2005#)) 
GROUP BY DonationCategories.CategoryDescr; 

There are 13 Donation Categories. The result set should have 13
records. It does not. It only has 11 for the categories where there
were donations in the period, it appears.



From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 25 12:17:31 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:17:31 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
In-Reply-To: <s26d417d.050@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F21E3587C0B1D498FE8654AD2200@phx.gbl>

Steve,

...or you can add criteria to your date field to include NULLS in addition 
to the dates provided... DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate=null.


Mark

>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
>Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:13:28 +0200
>
>Hi Steve
>
>You need to move the filtering to a subquery. Then left join that and
>not the unfiltered table.
>
>/gustav
>
>
> >>> erbachs at gmail.com 04/25 7:06 pm >>>
>Dear Group,
>
>The Access 2003 Help has this to say about LEFT JOINS:
>
>"Left outer joins include all of the records from the first (left) of
>two tables, even if there are no matching values for records in the
>second (right) table."
>
>I've done Left and Right Joins so many times over the years I can't
>count them. Now I'm puzzled by one that should be butt-simple. Here's
>the task: List all of the Donation categories and the sum of the
>Donation amounts for a specific time period. Make sure that the
>Donation category list contains every category whether there were
>donations during the period or not.
>
>Here's the SQL:
>
>SELECT
>   DonationCategories.CategoryDescr,
>   Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations
>FROM DonationCategories
>LEFT JOIN DollarsDonated
>ON DonationCategories.CategoryKey = DollarsDonated.CategoryKey
>WHERE (((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And
>#3/31/2005#))
>GROUP BY DonationCategories.CategoryDescr;
>
>There are 13 Donation Categories. The result set should have 13
>records. It does not. It only has 11 for the categories where there
>were donations in the period, it appears.
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 25 12:21:57 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:21:57 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
In-Reply-To: <s26d417d.050@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F249B1D309F19F188770CC0D2200@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm receiving 
a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import 
automatically.

Thanks,

Mark




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Apr 25 12:23:22 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:23:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f3050425100641395ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050425172320.UXAY22125.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

  It's a conflict to return all on one side but limit the other side with a
WHERE -- can't do it I don't think. 

Susan H. 

Dear Group,

The Access 2003 Help has this to say about LEFT JOINS:

"Left outer joins include all of the records from the first (left) of two
tables, even if there are no matching values for records in the second
(right) table."

I've done Left and Right Joins so many times over the years I can't count
them. Now I'm puzzled by one that should be butt-simple. Here's the task:
List all of the Donation categories and the sum of the Donation amounts for
a specific time period. Make sure that the Donation category list contains
every category whether there were donations during the period or not.

Here's the SQL:

SELECT
  DonationCategories.CategoryDescr,
  Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations FROM
DonationCategories LEFT JOIN DollarsDonated ON
DonationCategories.CategoryKey = DollarsDonated.CategoryKey WHERE
(((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And #3/31/2005#)) GROUP BY
DonationCategories.CategoryDescr; 

SELECT Species.SpecID, Sum(CBCData.countID) AS SumOfcountID
FROM Species LEFT JOIN CBCData ON Species.SpecID = CBCData.specID
GROUP BY Species.SpecID;
Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
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From jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com  Mon Apr 25 12:26:02 2005
From: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com (jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:26:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f3050425100641395ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OFE6E74B9F.179FA131-ON86256FEE.005F5718-86256FEE.005FC44D@usbank.com>

You can try this:

SELECT
  DonationCategories.CategoryDescr,
  temp1.SumOfDonations
FROM DonationCategories
LEFT JOIN

(SELECT
  DollarsDonated.CategoryKey,
  Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations
FROM DollarsDonated
WHERE (((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And #3/31/2005#))
GROUP BY DollarsDonated.CategoryKey) AS temp1

ON DonationCategories.CategoryKey = temp1.CategoryKey



Jeffrey F. Demulling
Project Manager
U.S. Bank Corporate Trust Services
60 Livingston Avenue
EP-MN-WS3C
St. Paul, MN  55107-2292
Ph: 651-495-3925
Fax: 651-495-8103
email: jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com


                                                                           
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Dear Group,

The Access 2003 Help has this to say about LEFT JOINS:

"Left outer joins include all of the records from the first (left) of
two tables, even if there are no matching values for records in the
second (right) table."

I've done Left and Right Joins so many times over the years I can't
count them. Now I'm puzzled by one that should be butt-simple. Here's
the task: List all of the Donation categories and the sum of the
Donation amounts for a specific time period. Make sure that the
Donation category list contains every category whether there were
donations during the period or not.

Here's the SQL:

SELECT
  DonationCategories.CategoryDescr,
  Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations
FROM DonationCategories
LEFT JOIN DollarsDonated
ON DonationCategories.CategoryKey = DollarsDonated.CategoryKey
WHERE (((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And #3/31/2005#))
GROUP BY DonationCategories.CategoryDescr;

There are 13 Donation Categories. The result set should have 13
records. It does not. It only has 11 for the categories where there
were donations in the period, it appears.

What am I missing?


Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
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From ldoering at symphonyinfo.com  Mon Apr 25 12:29:34 2005
From: ldoering at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:29:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
In-Reply-To: <39cb22f3050425100641395ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1DQ7PK-00046c-00@pop-a065d19.pas.sa.earthlink.net>

Steve,

If you have no donations for a particular category, the
DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate date is null.  So you are disallowing categories
with no data in that field.

Liz

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Erbach
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 12:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem

Dear Group,

The Access 2003 Help has this to say about LEFT JOINS:

"Left outer joins include all of the records from the first (left) of
two tables, even if there are no matching values for records in the
second (right) table."

I've done Left and Right Joins so many times over the years I can't
count them. Now I'm puzzled by one that should be butt-simple. Here's
the task: List all of the Donation categories and the sum of the
Donation amounts for a specific time period. Make sure that the
Donation category list contains every category whether there were
donations during the period or not.

Here's the SQL:

SELECT
  DonationCategories.CategoryDescr, 
  Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations 
FROM DonationCategories 
LEFT JOIN DollarsDonated 
ON DonationCategories.CategoryKey = DollarsDonated.CategoryKey
WHERE (((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And #3/31/2005#)) 
GROUP BY DonationCategories.CategoryDescr; 

There are 13 Donation Categories. The result set should have 13
records. It does not. It only has 11 for the categories where there
were donations in the period, it appears.

What am I missing?


Regards,

Steve Erbach
Scientific Marketing
Neenah, WI
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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Mon Apr 25 12:34:06 2005
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Don [ITS])
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:34:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <E2B2D43190AF7948BF79EF0079153D3C0124DFA6@PDAWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

Mark:

Don't know if it's the easiest way, but I use the Winzip command line
extensions passing a command line to a ShellWait function.  The command
line extensions are available as a free download from Winzip (requires
at least Winzip version 8.0 IIRC)

HTH,

Don

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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:22 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Hello All,

Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm
receiving 
a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import 
automatically.

Thanks,

Mark


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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Mon Apr 25 12:36:38 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B8E056@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA5D@ADGSERVER>

If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out to
WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.

Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have not used
any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.

Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Hello All,

Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm receiving

a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import 
automatically.

Thanks,

Mark



From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr 25 12:37:27 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:37:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
In-Reply-To: <s26d417d.050@cactus.dk>
References: <s26d417d.050@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305042510376bc15faf@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav,

Ah! I created the filter query and saved it. Then I used it in my LEFT
JOIN query. Voila! Boy! That seems like more work than is necessary,
but it does the job. Thank you.

Steve Erbach

On 4/25/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Steve
> 
> You need to move the filtering to a subquery. Then left join that and
> not the unfiltered table.
> 
> /gustav


From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr 25 12:39:37 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:39:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
In-Reply-To: <OFE6E74B9F.179FA131-ON86256FEE.005F5718-86256FEE.005FC44D@usbank.com>
References: <39cb22f3050425100641395ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFE6E74B9F.179FA131-ON86256FEE.005F5718-86256FEE.005FC44D@usbank.com>
Message-ID: <39cb22f305042510392600b757@mail.gmail.com>

Jeffrey,

Ah! All in one query! I can get rid of my saved query. I wasn't aware
that a subquery could be given an alias like a field can. Thank you.

Steve Erbach

On 4/25/05, jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com <jeffrey.demulling at usbank.com> wrote:
> You can try this:
> 
> SELECT
>   DonationCategories.CategoryDescr,
>   temp1.SumOfDonations
> FROM DonationCategories
> LEFT JOIN
> 
> (SELECT
>   DollarsDonated.CategoryKey,
>   Sum(DollarsDonated.DonationAmount) as SumOfDonations
> FROM DollarsDonated
> WHERE (((DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate) Between #1/1/2005# And #3/31/2005#))
> GROUP BY DollarsDonated.CategoryKey) AS temp1
> 
> ON DonationCategories.CategoryKey = temp1.CategoryKey
> 
> Jeffrey F. Demulling


From erbachs at gmail.com  Mon Apr 25 12:41:29 2005
From: erbachs at gmail.com (Steve Erbach)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:41:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: Left Join problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F21E3587C0B1D498FE8654AD2200@phx.gbl>
References: <s26d417d.050@cactus.dk>
	<BAY103-F21E3587C0B1D498FE8654AD2200@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <39cb22f3050425104128ffe47d@mail.gmail.com>

Mark, Susan, Liz,

Thank you for the instant response to my problem. I appreciate it very much.

Steve Erbach

On 4/25/05, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> ...or you can add criteria to your date field to include NULLS in addition
> to the dates provided... DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate=null.
> 
> Mark
> 

>   It's a conflict to return all on one side but limit the other side with a
> WHERE -- can't do it I don't think.
>
> Susan H.

> Steve,

> If you have no donations for a particular category, the
DollarsDonated.ReceiptDate date is null.  So you are disallowing categories
with no data in that field.
> 
> Liz


From KP at sdsonline.net  Mon Apr 25 18:33:14 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:33:14 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
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	<BAY103-DAV1536BEB009A5EC87085F96C6200@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002101c549ef$27cdfe70$6401a8c0@user>

Thanks Gregg - I'll have a think about how to get some orf my clients to 'make the shift'.,

rgds
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gregg 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:32 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  Kath,

  I tend to convert everything to hours.  My estimates are broken down by hours and totaled.  Only at the end are they multiplied by an hourly rate.  I want the customer to believe (1) this is a service not a commodity, (2) before this project is finished there will many changes and additions requiring additional hours and (3) when we are finished he will think of 10 more things he will like to have.  Simply stated, this is going to be a long-term, by-the-hour relationship.  I then report every month where those hours are spent.

  If I was quoting a $10,000 project at say $50/hr that would be 200 hours.  I would quote $1000/month for 10 months with the first payment up front.  I would report every month the hours and the balance on that project plus whatever additional services they asked for under that project's name or a Misc category.  Obviously, their payments would continue past the 10 months until the balance is paid.  Hopefully by this time you have built a positive relationship and identified lots more to do to justify continuing the payments or even some lower payments.  The long term goal is to sell the customer that there will always be a need for your services and he might as well budget for it annually.  

  Obviously whatever arrangements you make are going to have a negative impact on your cash flow.  Essentially some of the hours you work today you won't get paid on until 6 months from now. If you don't have money in the bank, you need to be very careful about how far you extend terms on the first project and how often you do it. 

  Hope this helps.

  Gregg

  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Kath Pelletti<mailto:KP at sdsonline.net> 
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
    Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:13 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


    Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion. Additional work quoted separately.

    So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I convert that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that I get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long does the arrangement run for??? 

    Kath
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Gregg 
      To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
      Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
      Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


      It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing decision nearly a no-brainer.

      The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different that what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for another solution.

      I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

      Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com>> 
        To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>> 
        Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
        Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


        To All,

         

        Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought up
        the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept is
        that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
        services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

         

        This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
        discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
        have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which is
        actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little shocked
        if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to the
        old way of doing business.  

         

        I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I would
        have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
        continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular income
        stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which might be
        easier to get into.

         

        Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
        software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
        method?

         

         

        Dan Waters

         

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Mon Apr 25 18:38:17 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:38:17 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
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Thanks Dan - I don't contract to them - I just write each system for a fee - I always work on the basis that I own them and so far no client has wanted to challenge that stance. (I know from previous discussions on the list that ownership is no simple matter..)

Thanks for the details - 
Kath


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:48 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  Hi Kath,

  I talked with an accountant this morning.  He said that a capitalized
  software purchase is depreciated over 3 years (straight-line).  This 'seems'
  to indicate that asking them to pay 1/36th of the 'purchase' amount every
  month from now on would be OK.  A $10,000 purchase would equate to a $278
  monthly payment.  The $278 is regular income to you, and does not end.  

  Instead of some fraction of the purchase price, you could try to calculate
  the monthly value they get, and then charge a portion of that.  This is a
  pretty reasonable approach - the customer pays for less than the value they
  get for as long as they are getting it.

  They could drop out at any time after 6 (or 12?) months - so the risk is on
  you to provide something that is worth more to them each month than they pay
  each month.  There will need to be a mechanism (or good contract) to turn
  off the software if they decide to discontinue.  

  What I think I'll do is offer continuing Tech Support and Warranty for as
  long as they use the software.  So I'll offer a Purchase License and a TSW
  License - customer's choice.  And, they can convert a TSW License to a
  Purchase License whenever they like.

  However - do you license your software or are you contracting with them to
  provide software that they will own?  If they will own it, then you'll have
  to come up with some additional service to make it worth their money. 

  ** On my website there is a spreadsheet intended for prospective customers
  to enable them to calculate for themselves the productivity increase they
  will experience by using my software to automate a business process.  Go to
  www.promationsystems.com/download.htm.  Download the compressed file that
  has an instruction document, an instructional video, and the spreadsheet.
  If you are a member of the AccessD list you have my permission to modify the
  spreadsheet for your business.  (I used Windows Media Encoder 9.0 to create
  the screen capture video.)


  Dan Waters




  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:14 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

  Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully
  customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a
  job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion.
  Additional work quoted separately.

  So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I convert
  that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that I
  get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do
  that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long does
  the arrangement run for??? 

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Gregg 
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
    Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


    It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the
  customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
  decision nearly a no-brainer.

    The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different
  that what your software delivers, you will either have to make modifications
  quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around for
  another solution.

    I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
  customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
  year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
  billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now I
  can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

    Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for additions
  and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where they
  would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess because
  of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance contract
  (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear that
  it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
  (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
      To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
      Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
      Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


      To All,

       

      Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He brought
  up
      the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the concept
  is
      that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
      services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

       

      This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
      discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.  They
      have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want, which
  is
      actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little
  shocked
      if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to
  the
      old way of doing business.  

       

      I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I
  would
      have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of course
      continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
  income
      stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which
  might be
      easier to get into.

       

      Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
      software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
      method?

       

       

      Dan Waters

       

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr 25 19:29:33 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:29:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A90140820B@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Thanks Marty - it works well
DD 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Friday, 22 April 2005 2:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters

In Word press  Ctrl and '  then press Shift E  It is an E acute or 201 decimal in extended Ansi To see the lot of keyboard shortcuts in Word Menu Insert--> Symbol and probably select Arial it has full unicode symbols there is a current controversy among the French concerning whether one should put accents on capital letters, and that whether those letters are majuscules or capitales  makes a difference (this is suggested in the excerpt from le Bon Usage  there are other people making stronger arguments based upon the same principle).

  Majuscules = handwritten capital letters
    Capitales  = printed or typed capital letters

My head hurts on this one.  I am a t?te carr?.


Darren Dick wrote:

>Hi all
>I appreciate this is way OT :-))
>
>If I hold down ALT and Type 0489 in MS Access I get the French E with 
>the little thingo above it (?) If I do it in Word (Or even in Outlook) 
>I get ?
>
>What is the Correct key stokes in Word to get ?
>
>Many thanks in advance
>
>Darren
>
>  
>

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr 25 19:28:31 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:28:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A90140820A@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Thanks Stuart
I did try the link and got a proxy error . I assumed it was our nOtwork at this end
Out nIT guys are always stuffing around with it and we have just moved to fibre, so I assumed it was our end

Thanks for the info and the link - :-))

DD


 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, 22 April 2005 1:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters

On 22 Apr 2005 at 13:09, Darren Dick wrote:

> Hi all
> I appreciate this is way OT :-))
> 
> If I hold down ALT and Type 0489 in MS Access I get the French E with 
> the little thingo above it (?) If I do it in Word (Or even in Outlook) 
> I get
> 
> What is the Correct key stokes in Word to get ?
> 

Try  Alt+0233 for lower case or ALt+0201 for uppercase,

 You could have answered this yourself if you had grabbed a copy of the Extended Character Map that I recommended the other day:

<quote>
A great little tool for answering this sort of question quickly is the Pricelessware (http://www.pricelesswar.org) recommended utility:

Extended Character Map
(Freeware)
Windows OS: Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000
Languages: English
Description: Extended Character Map is like the Windows Character Map utility but uses much bigger, easier-to-see characters. The utility is especially useful for viewing the pictures in a symbol or Dingbat font. 
Characters can be seen up to 100pt size. No more squinting at Webding characters trying to figure out "is that a race car or a textile factory?". 

The keystroke name is displayed in the program's status bar. The Decimal/Hex/Oct/Binary values are also displayed. Additionally, you can view the fonts with one or more attributes selected (Bold, Italic, Underline, Strikeout). Using ExtendedCharacterMap, any character or series of characters can be quickly copied to the clipboard.
Company: -- Author: Sony Arianto Kurniawan

Program description:
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6166,00.asp

download v 1.41 (extended.zip) (189 KB)
http://ftp.pcworld.com/pub/new/desktop/fonts/extended.zip 

</quote>
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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Apr 25 19:33:32 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:33:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901408213@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Thanks Penn
That's where I ended up
Thanks again

DD
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Penn White
Sent: Friday, 22 April 2005 11:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] WAY OT: Alt Characters

This also might work:

http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,6166,00.asp

Penn

> Your link to Pricelessware is broken. It should be 
> http://www.pricelessware.org
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Apr 25 20:48:20 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:48:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
In-Reply-To: <10836703.1114472718120.JavaMail.root@sniper17>
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On Ownership:

If you wrote it for them without a contract then they own that one copy but
not the copyright.  Even if you don't talk about it or put copyright into
your database or literature.  They can sell the copy they have to someone
else, but they can't keep a copy for themselves.

Without a contract you own the copyright.  You can copy what you made for
them as many times as you like and sell it for whatever you can get to
whomever you like.

Only a contract between you and them can change any of the above.

All the best!
Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

Thanks Dan - I don't contract to them - I just write each system for a fee -
I always work on the basis that I own them and so far no client has wanted
to challenge that stance. (I know from previous discussions on the list that
ownership is no simple matter..)

Thanks for the details - 
Kath


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan Waters 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:48 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


  Hi Kath,

  I talked with an accountant this morning.  He said that a capitalized
  software purchase is depreciated over 3 years (straight-line).  This
'seems'
  to indicate that asking them to pay 1/36th of the 'purchase' amount every
  month from now on would be OK.  A $10,000 purchase would equate to a $278
  monthly payment.  The $278 is regular income to you, and does not end.  

  Instead of some fraction of the purchase price, you could try to calculate
  the monthly value they get, and then charge a portion of that.  This is a
  pretty reasonable approach - the customer pays for less than the value
they
  get for as long as they are getting it.

  They could drop out at any time after 6 (or 12?) months - so the risk is
on
  you to provide something that is worth more to them each month than they
pay
  each month.  There will need to be a mechanism (or good contract) to turn
  off the software if they decide to discontinue.  

  What I think I'll do is offer continuing Tech Support and Warranty for as
  long as they use the software.  So I'll offer a Purchase License and a TSW
  License - customer's choice.  And, they can convert a TSW License to a
  Purchase License whenever they like.

  However - do you license your software or are you contracting with them to
  provide software that they will own?  If they will own it, then you'll
have
  to come up with some additional service to make it worth their money. 

  ** On my website there is a spreadsheet intended for prospective customers
  to enable them to calculate for themselves the productivity increase they
  will experience by using my software to automate a business process.  Go
to
  www.promationsystems.com/download.htm.  Download the compressed file that
  has an instruction document, an instructional video, and the spreadsheet.
  If you are a member of the AccessD list you have my permission to modify
the
  spreadsheet for your business.  (I used Windows Media Encoder 9.0 to
create
  the screen capture video.)


  Dan Waters




  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:14 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

  Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully
  customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a
  job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion.
  Additional work quoted separately.

  So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I
convert
  that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that
I
  get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do
  that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long
does
  the arrangement run for??? 

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Gregg 
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
    Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


    It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows the
  customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
  decision nearly a no-brainer.

    The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different
  that what your software delivers, you will either have to make
modifications
  quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around
for
  another solution.

    I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
  customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
  year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
  billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now
I
  can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good. 

    Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for
additions
  and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where
they
  would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess
because
  of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance
contract
  (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear
that
  it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
  (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.  
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com> 
      To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
      Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
      Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


      To All,

       

      Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He
brought
  up
      the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the
concept
  is
      that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from my
      services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)

       

      This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
      discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.
They
      have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want,
which
  is
      actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little
  shocked
      if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back to
  the
      old way of doing business.  

       

      I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I
  would
      have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of
course
      continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
  income
      stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which
  might be
      easier to get into.

       

      Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone use
      software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
      method?

       

       

      Dan Waters

       

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From pennwhite at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 26 06:21:30 2005
From: pennwhite at hotmail.com (Penn White)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:21:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
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Dan, et. al.

I've been lurking along in this thread and it has been brilliant.  Thank you 
very much.

Dan, would you mind posting some source references on your last point about 
copyright?

Rather than selling services exactly, I'm hoping to sell a 'niche-market' 
program but there will be a yearly maintenance/upgrade fee and 
client-specific enhancements will be billed separately.  Sounds like using a 
total hour scheme broken down into monthly payments for a big enhancement or 
a single price (but still hours-based) w/ maybe 1/3 up front, 1/3 when half 
done and 1/3 at completion might be a good business model?

Penn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:48 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


> On Ownership:
>
> If you wrote it for them without a contract then they own that one copy 
> but
> not the copyright.  Even if you don't talk about it or put copyright into
> your database or literature.  They can sell the copy they have to someone
> else, but they can't keep a copy for themselves.
>
> Without a contract you own the copyright.  You can copy what you made for
> them as many times as you like and sell it for whatever you can get to
> whomever you like.
>
> Only a contract between you and them can change any of the above.
>
> All the best!
> Dan Waters
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:38 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
> Thanks Dan - I don't contract to them - I just write each system for a 
> fee -
> I always work on the basis that I own them and so far no client has wanted
> to challenge that stance. (I know from previous discussions on the list 
> that
> ownership is no simple matter..)
>
> Thanks for the details -
> Kath
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Dan Waters
>  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:48 AM
>  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>  Hi Kath,
>
>  I talked with an accountant this morning.  He said that a capitalized
>  software purchase is depreciated over 3 years (straight-line).  This
> 'seems'
>  to indicate that asking them to pay 1/36th of the 'purchase' amount every
>  month from now on would be OK.  A $10,000 purchase would equate to a $278
>  monthly payment.  The $278 is regular income to you, and does not end.
>
>  Instead of some fraction of the purchase price, you could try to 
> calculate
>  the monthly value they get, and then charge a portion of that.  This is a
>  pretty reasonable approach - the customer pays for less than the value
> they
>  get for as long as they are getting it.
>
>  They could drop out at any time after 6 (or 12?) months - so the risk is
> on
>  you to provide something that is worth more to them each month than they
> pay
>  each month.  There will need to be a mechanism (or good contract) to turn
>  off the software if they decide to discontinue.
>
>  What I think I'll do is offer continuing Tech Support and Warranty for as
>  long as they use the software.  So I'll offer a Purchase License and a 
> TSW
>  License - customer's choice.  And, they can convert a TSW License to a
>  Purchase License whenever they like.
>
>  However - do you license your software or are you contracting with them 
> to
>  provide software that they will own?  If they will own it, then you'll
> have
>  to come up with some additional service to make it worth their money.
>
>  ** On my website there is a spreadsheet intended for prospective 
> customers
>  to enable them to calculate for themselves the productivity increase they
>  will experience by using my software to automate a business process.  Go
> to
>  www.promationsystems.com/download.htm.  Download the compressed file that
>  has an instruction document, an instructional video, and the spreadsheet.
>  If you are a member of the AccessD list you have my permission to modify
> the
>  spreadsheet for your business.  (I used Windows Media Encoder 9.0 to
> create
>  the screen capture video.)
>
>
>  Dan Waters
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
>  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:14 PM
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>  Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully
>  customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a
>  job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion.
>  Additional work quoted separately.
>
>  So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I
> convert
>  that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that
> I
>  get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do
>  that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long
> does
>  the arrangement run for???
>
>  Kath
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: Gregg
>    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>    Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
>    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>    It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows 
> the
>  customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
>  decision nearly a no-brainer.
>
>    The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different
>  that what your software delivers, you will either have to make
> modifications
>  quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around
> for
>  another solution.
>
>    I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
>  customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
>  year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
>  billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now
> I
>  can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good.
>
>    Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for
> additions
>  and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where
> they
>  would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess
> because
>  of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance
> contract
>  (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear
> that
>  it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
>  (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.
>      ----- Original Message ----- 
>      From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com>
>      To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>      Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
>      Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>      To All,
>
>
>
>      Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He
> brought
>  up
>      the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the
> concept
>  is
>      that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from 
> my
>      services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)
>
>
>
>      This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
>      discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.
> They
>      have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want,
> which
>  is
>      actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little
>  shocked
>      if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back 
> to
>  the
>      old way of doing business.
>
>
>
>      I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I
>  would
>      have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of
> course
>      continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
>  income
>      stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which
>  might be
>      easier to get into.
>
>
>
>      Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone 
> use
>      software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
>      method?
>
>
>
>
>
>      Dan Waters
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 26 08:16:16 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:16:16 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA5D@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F37572487BF1BD95861CB2CD2210@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm not 
worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP Pro...and it 
allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any way to call this 
function from Access/vba/api or something?

Thanks,

Mark

>From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
>
>If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out to
>WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.
>
>Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have not 
>used
>any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
>
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>
>Hello All,
>
>Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm 
>receiving
>
>a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import
>automatically.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Apr 26 08:38:10 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D43A@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I've played around with the vbAccelerator project:
http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp 

It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely
distributable.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files

Hello All,

The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm not
worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP Pro...and it
allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any way to call this
function from Access/vba/api or something?

Thanks,

Mark

>From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
>
>If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out to 
>WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.
>
>Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have not

>used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
>
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>
>Hello All,
>
>Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm 
>receiving
>
>a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import 
>automatically.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>

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From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:10:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page
Message-ID: <001201c54a69$c4cfc760$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Does anyone know how to manipulate a web page from VB/VB.net?  I need to
place values in text boxes, click radio buttons, click command buttons etc.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 26 09:25:06 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:25:06 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page
In-Reply-To: <001201c54a69$c4cfc760$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
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You need to talk to Drew. :) 

Susan H. 

Does anyone know how to manipulate a web page from VB/VB.net?  I need to
place values in text boxes, click radio buttons, click command buttons etc.




From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr 26 09:42:25 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:42:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving the binary data from a BLOB (SQL 2000)
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F05@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

List,

We are having an issue with uploading SQL data across our WAN.  The network speed from our remote sites is 384 kBs and we're sending across numerous data fields plus a images stored in a BLOB field.  The upload takes over 3 minutes per record with images but is instantaneous without them.  This upload time is unacceptable as you can imagine.  It ties up the server and no work can be done until the process runs it's course.  For the curious we're using ADO recordsets to pass the data from the client to the server.

I'm trying to determine the actual size of the images as they're stored in the SQL db (image field).  I have the following code that retrieves binary data for one record but I can't get it to show more than one.

USE myDB
GO
DECLARE @ptrval varbinary(16)
SELECT top 1  @ptrval = TEXTPTR(imagefield) 
   FROM tbldocs pr where imagefield IS NOT NULL
READTEXT tbldocs.imagefield @ptrval 1 25
GO

My questions are:
1. How to show more than one record?
2. How to get the complete data from the field?  The second parameter in @ptrval can be increased but all the data should be different sizes and I'd just like to be able to pull it without a parameter.

I need to pull about 20 images in binary format to get an estimate of a typical data send (one record can contain up to 20 images sometimes more).

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Apr 26 09:41:42 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:41:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3C7@main2.marlow.com>

I saw this email on the VB list, and already sent JC an example offlist.  I
didn't see this posted on the AccessD list though....

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page


You need to talk to Drew. :) 

Susan H. 

Does anyone know how to manipulate a web page from VB/VB.net?  I need to
place values in text boxes, click radio buttons, click command buttons etc.


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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Apr 26 09:49:31 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:49:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3C7@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <20050426144929.NERP2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Well, if anybody can help him, it's you. ;)  

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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page

I saw this email on the VB list, and already sent JC an example offlist.  I
didn't see this posted on the AccessD list though....

Drew

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From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page


You need to talk to Drew. :) 

Susan H. 

Does anyone know how to manipulate a web page from VB/VB.net?  I need to
place values in text boxes, click radio buttons, click command buttons etc.


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Apr 26 10:09:44 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:09:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright Ownership (was: Client Payment Methods)
In-Reply-To: <8057009.1114514876037.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAALjPHRgm5YUav3PpsOXep9wEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Hi Penn,

Unfortunately I don't have any specific references I can point you to.  This
is based on a discussion I once had with my patent attorney, and some other
things I've read along the way.  

Basically, if you create software applications then you are an author in the
same way that a book is written by an author.  If you buy a book, we all
know that we could re-sell it, but cannot make copies and re-sell those
copies.  Only the author has the right to do that.

There is a strong element in federal law that says that only the original
inventor or author can hold a patent or copyright.  That person can assign
rights to a company, but that must be explicitly done by contract.  For
example, when I have worked as a Design Engineer, I was required as a
condition of employment to agree to assign all rights to any inventions I
created to the company I was working for.  Without that agreement, anything
I invented, even if it was directly related to the company and I did it on
company time using their tools and equipment, would have been mine alone.

I would guess that many people on this list who have been hired as
developers signed a similar agreement relating to copyright and ownership of
the software they developed.

Hope this helps!


Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Penn White
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:22 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

Dan, et. al.

I've been lurking along in this thread and it has been brilliant.  Thank you

very much.

Dan, would you mind posting some source references on your last point about 
copyright?

Rather than selling services exactly, I'm hoping to sell a 'niche-market' 
program but there will be a yearly maintenance/upgrade fee and 
client-specific enhancements will be billed separately.  Sounds like using a

total hour scheme broken down into monthly payments for a big enhancement or

a single price (but still hours-based) w/ maybe 1/3 up front, 1/3 when half 
done and 1/3 at completion might be a good business model?

Penn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:48 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


> On Ownership:
>
> If you wrote it for them without a contract then they own that one copy 
> but
> not the copyright.  Even if you don't talk about it or put copyright into
> your database or literature.  They can sell the copy they have to someone
> else, but they can't keep a copy for themselves.
>
> Without a contract you own the copyright.  You can copy what you made for
> them as many times as you like and sell it for whatever you can get to
> whomever you like.
>
> Only a contract between you and them can change any of the above.
>
> All the best!
> Dan Waters
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:38 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
> Thanks Dan - I don't contract to them - I just write each system for a 
> fee -
> I always work on the basis that I own them and so far no client has wanted
> to challenge that stance. (I know from previous discussions on the list 
> that
> ownership is no simple matter..)
>
> Thanks for the details -
> Kath
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Dan Waters
>  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:48 AM
>  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>  Hi Kath,
>
>  I talked with an accountant this morning.  He said that a capitalized
>  software purchase is depreciated over 3 years (straight-line).  This
> 'seems'
>  to indicate that asking them to pay 1/36th of the 'purchase' amount every
>  month from now on would be OK.  A $10,000 purchase would equate to a $278
>  monthly payment.  The $278 is regular income to you, and does not end.
>
>  Instead of some fraction of the purchase price, you could try to 
> calculate
>  the monthly value they get, and then charge a portion of that.  This is a
>  pretty reasonable approach - the customer pays for less than the value
> they
>  get for as long as they are getting it.
>
>  They could drop out at any time after 6 (or 12?) months - so the risk is
> on
>  you to provide something that is worth more to them each month than they
> pay
>  each month.  There will need to be a mechanism (or good contract) to turn
>  off the software if they decide to discontinue.
>
>  What I think I'll do is offer continuing Tech Support and Warranty for as
>  long as they use the software.  So I'll offer a Purchase License and a 
> TSW
>  License - customer's choice.  And, they can convert a TSW License to a
>  Purchase License whenever they like.
>
>  However - do you license your software or are you contracting with them 
> to
>  provide software that they will own?  If they will own it, then you'll
> have
>  to come up with some additional service to make it worth their money.
>
>  ** On my website there is a spreadsheet intended for prospective 
> customers
>  to enable them to calculate for themselves the productivity increase they
>  will experience by using my software to automate a business process.  Go
> to
>  www.promationsystems.com/download.htm.  Download the compressed file that
>  has an instruction document, an instructional video, and the spreadsheet.
>  If you are a member of the AccessD list you have my permission to modify
> the
>  spreadsheet for your business.  (I used Windows Media Encoder 9.0 to
> create
>  the screen capture video.)
>
>
>  Dan Waters
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
>  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:14 PM
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>  Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully
>  customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a
>  job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion.
>  Additional work quoted separately.
>
>  So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I
> convert
>  that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that
> I
>  get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do
>  that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long
> does
>  the arrangement run for???
>
>  Kath
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: Gregg
>    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>    Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
>    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>    It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows 
> the
>  customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
>  decision nearly a no-brainer.
>
>    The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different
>  that what your software delivers, you will either have to make
> modifications
>  quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around
> for
>  another solution.
>
>    I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
>  customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
>  year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
>  billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now
> I
>  can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good.
>
>    Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for
> additions
>  and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where
> they
>  would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess
> because
>  of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance
> contract
>  (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear
> that
>  it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
>  (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.
>      ----- Original Message ----- 
>      From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com>
>      To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>      Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
>      Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>      To All,
>
>
>
>      Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He
> brought
>  up
>      the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the
> concept
>  is
>      that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from 
> my
>      services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)
>
>
>
>      This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
>      discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.
> They
>      have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want,
> which
>  is
>      actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little
>  shocked
>      if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back 
> to
>  the
>      old way of doing business.
>
>
>
>      I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I
>  would
>      have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of
> course
>      continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
>  income
>      stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which
>  might be
>      easier to get into.
>
>
>
>      Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone 
> use
>      software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
>      method?
>
>
>
>
>
>      Dan Waters
>
>
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Apr 26 10:25:14 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:25:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3CB@main2.marlow.com>

<blush>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page


Well, if anybody can help him, it's you. ;)  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:42 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page

I saw this email on the VB list, and already sent JC an example offlist.  I
didn't see this posted on the AccessD list though....

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Pushing data to a web page


You need to talk to Drew. :) 

Susan H. 

Does anyone know how to manipulate a web page from VB/VB.net?  I need to
place values in text boxes, click radio buttons, click command buttons etc.


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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 26 10:42:36 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:42:36 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D43A@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F24B9117B8503A25411CCC0D2210@phx.gbl>

I've had a few people suggest this site... but I can't hit the site.  I even 
tried the main page http://www.vbaccelerator.com, Has the site moved?

Thanks,

Mark



>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
>
>I've played around with the vbAccelerator project:
>http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp
>
>It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely
>distributable.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>Hello All,
>
>The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm not
>worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP Pro...and it
>allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any way to call this
>function from Access/vba/api or something?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
> >From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
> >
> >If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out to
> >WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.
> >
> >Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have not
>
> >used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
> >
> >Bobby
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
> >Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >
> >
> >Hello All,
> >
> >Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm
> >receiving
> >
> >a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import
> >automatically.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark
> >
>
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Apr 26 10:55:23 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:55:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Copyright Ownership (was: Client Payment Methods)
In-Reply-To: <11235991.1114528498066.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA5cy8SsWfd0aw8o8r8X5PGwEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

This is from www.uspatentinfo.com/Faq6_PatentProcess.html.

The first Article of the U.S. Constitution, Section VIII, provides the basis
for the U.S. patent system. [U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 8, clause
8]. In this article, the Founding Fathers granted to Congress the power to
form a system "to promote the progress of Science and useful arts by
securing for limited terms to authors and inventors the exclusive right to
their respective writings and discoveries."

So - it looks like the basis for authors and inventors holding exclusive
rights is in the constitution, not just in federal law.

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Copyright Ownership (was: Client Payment Methods)

Hi Penn,

Unfortunately I don't have any specific references I can point you to.  This
is based on a discussion I once had with my patent attorney, and some other
things I've read along the way.  

Basically, if you create software applications then you are an author in the
same way that a book is written by an author.  If you buy a book, we all
know that we could re-sell it, but cannot make copies and re-sell those
copies.  Only the author has the right to do that.

There is a strong element in federal law that says that only the original
inventor or author can hold a patent or copyright.  That person can assign
rights to a company, but that must be explicitly done by contract.  For
example, when I have worked as a Design Engineer, I was required as a
condition of employment to agree to assign all rights to any inventions I
created to the company I was working for.  Without that agreement, anything
I invented, even if it was directly related to the company and I did it on
company time using their tools and equipment, would have been mine alone.

I would guess that many people on this list who have been hired as
developers signed a similar agreement relating to copyright and ownership of
the software they developed.

Hope this helps!


Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Penn White
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:22 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods

Dan, et. al.

I've been lurking along in this thread and it has been brilliant.  Thank you

very much.

Dan, would you mind posting some source references on your last point about 
copyright?

Rather than selling services exactly, I'm hoping to sell a 'niche-market' 
program but there will be a yearly maintenance/upgrade fee and 
client-specific enhancements will be billed separately.  Sounds like using a

total hour scheme broken down into monthly payments for a big enhancement or

a single price (but still hours-based) w/ maybe 1/3 up front, 1/3 when half 
done and 1/3 at completion might be a good business model?

Penn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:48 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods


> On Ownership:
>
> If you wrote it for them without a contract then they own that one copy 
> but
> not the copyright.  Even if you don't talk about it or put copyright into
> your database or literature.  They can sell the copy they have to someone
> else, but they can't keep a copy for themselves.
>
> Without a contract you own the copyright.  You can copy what you made for
> them as many times as you like and sell it for whatever you can get to
> whomever you like.
>
> Only a contract between you and them can change any of the above.
>
> All the best!
> Dan Waters
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:38 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
> Thanks Dan - I don't contract to them - I just write each system for a 
> fee -
> I always work on the basis that I own them and so far no client has wanted
> to challenge that stance. (I know from previous discussions on the list 
> that
> ownership is no simple matter..)
>
> Thanks for the details -
> Kath
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Dan Waters
>  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:48 AM
>  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>  Hi Kath,
>
>  I talked with an accountant this morning.  He said that a capitalized
>  software purchase is depreciated over 3 years (straight-line).  This
> 'seems'
>  to indicate that asking them to pay 1/36th of the 'purchase' amount every
>  month from now on would be OK.  A $10,000 purchase would equate to a $278
>  monthly payment.  The $278 is regular income to you, and does not end.
>
>  Instead of some fraction of the purchase price, you could try to 
> calculate
>  the monthly value they get, and then charge a portion of that.  This is a
>  pretty reasonable approach - the customer pays for less than the value
> they
>  get for as long as they are getting it.
>
>  They could drop out at any time after 6 (or 12?) months - so the risk is
> on
>  you to provide something that is worth more to them each month than they
> pay
>  each month.  There will need to be a mechanism (or good contract) to turn
>  off the software if they decide to discontinue.
>
>  What I think I'll do is offer continuing Tech Support and Warranty for as
>  long as they use the software.  So I'll offer a Purchase License and a 
> TSW
>  License - customer's choice.  And, they can convert a TSW License to a
>  Purchase License whenever they like.
>
>  However - do you license your software or are you contracting with them 
> to
>  provide software that they will own?  If they will own it, then you'll
> have
>  to come up with some additional service to make it worth their money.
>
>  ** On my website there is a spreadsheet intended for prospective 
> customers
>  to enable them to calculate for themselves the productivity increase they
>  will experience by using my software to automate a business process.  Go
> to
>  www.promationsystems.com/download.htm.  Download the compressed file that
>  has an instruction document, an instructional video, and the spreadsheet.
>  If you are a member of the AccessD list you have my permission to modify
> the
>  spreadsheet for your business.  (I used Windows Media Encoder 9.0 to
> create
>  the screen capture video.)
>
>
>  Dan Waters
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
>  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:14 PM
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>  Gregg / Dan - Can you tell me how this works? I also only do fully
>  customised systems - my normal process is to provide a written quote on a
>  job and ask for  half as deposit and the other half on completion.
>  Additional work quoted separately.
>
>  So if I was to quote a job which worked out to $10,000 - how would I
> convert
>  that to an ongoing monthly payment? My accountant has also suggested that
> I
>  get some monthly payments happening - but I have no idea really how to do
>  that....How much should they pay? What do I promise in return? How long
> does
>  the arrangement run for???
>
>  Kath
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: Gregg
>    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>    Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:31 AM
>    Subject: Re: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>    It's a very good idea.  Removes most of the sales objections. Allows 
> the
>  customer to kind of try before they spend a lot. Makes the purchasing
>  decision nearly a no-brainer.
>
>    The only downside I can see is if their expectations are far different
>  that what your software delivers, you will either have to make
> modifications
>  quickly and essentially for free or they will be tempted to shop around
> for
>  another solution.
>
>    I have done something similar.  Our software is totally custom for each
>  customer so our end product is almost all programming by the hour.  This
>  year I was able to convert 4 long-term customers to a regular monthly
>  billing. We still track hours and make adjustments when necessary but now
> I
>  can count on a regular monthly check.  It's been good.
>
>    Also, I have noticed a change in their mindset about asking for
> additions
>  and enhancements.  In the past there were mini approval processes where
> they
>  would get an estimate of our labor before proceeding.  Now, I guess
> because
>  of the monthly payments, they tend to think of it as a maintenance
> contract
>  (where requests are seemingly free) even though I have been very clear
> that
>  it is not.  Now, from their perspective its a budgeted, yearly commitment
>  (once-a-year decision) even though they are free to get out at any time.
>      ----- Original Message ----- 
>      From: Dan Waters<mailto:dwaters at usinternet.com>
>      To: Database Advisors<mailto:accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>      Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:18 AM
>      Subject: [AccessD] Client Payment Methods
>
>
>      To All,
>
>
>
>      Yesterday I had a business planning meeting with an advisor.  He
> brought
>  up
>      the idea of asking my clients to pay me on a monthly basis - the
> concept
>  is
>      that they would pay me a portion of the ongoing value they get from 
> my
>      services.  (By the way, this is not a maintenance fee.)
>
>
>
>      This sounds quite attractive.  My customers might skip a major budget
>      discussion (often lasting several months) and quickly get started.
> They
>      have a low risk because they could discontinue whenever they want,
> which
>  is
>      actually a good business position.  On my side I would be a little
>  shocked
>      if they did discontinue because no one would really want to go back 
> to
>  the
>      old way of doing business.
>
>
>
>      I'm thinking that I would ask for a monthly amount of 1/36 of what I
>  would
>      have asked for to 'sell' a module.  The monthly payment would of
> course
>      continue after the 3-year period.  This gives me a long-term regular
>  income
>      stream, and allows my customer to make small monthly payments which
>  might be
>      easier to get into.
>
>
>
>      Does anyone provide software under similar terms?  Or, does anyone 
> use
>      software under similar terms?  What are your thoughts on this payment
>      method?
>
>
>
>
>
>      Dan Waters
>
>
>
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Tue Apr 26 10:59:11 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:59:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAD9B@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

Ok, in 2003 how do you make a tab control look like it did in 2000? I
can't make it raised & it is this sickly pale green color & beige
background.

 

Even to make the controls on the tab sunken I have to go through each
choice in the Special Effect list first (shadowed, chiseled, then
sunken) to get it to show the way I want. Is this normal?

 

Virginia



From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Tue Apr 26 11:07:30 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:07:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D48E@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I just clicked on the link and it worked for me.  

I recall our old corporate firewall would block or mangle this site,
particularily when browsing with IE.  But then I upgraded to Firefox.
BIG improvement.  No looking back!

Here's a Google cache of the page I mentioned:
http://tinyurl.com/b9jho

Let me know if you need the source files.  I can send them to you
offline.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files

I've had a few people suggest this site... but I can't hit the site.  I
even tried the main page http://www.vbaccelerator.com, Has the site
moved?

Thanks,

Mark



>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
>
>I've played around with the vbAccelerator project:
>http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp
>
>It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely 
>distributable.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>Hello All,
>
>The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm not 
>worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP Pro...and it 
>allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any way to call 
>this function from Access/vba/api or something?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
> >From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
> >solving<ac
essd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
> >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
> >
> >If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out 
> >to WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.
> >
> >Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have 
> >not
>
> >used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
> >
> >Bobby
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A 
> >Matte
> >Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >
> >
> >Hello All,
> >
> >Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm 
> >receiving
> >
> >a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import 
> >automatically.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark
> >

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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Tue Apr 26 11:14:14 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:14:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in Access2000
In-Reply-To: <s266c0b4.087@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKKEPJCJAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hello Gustav,
The article that I referred you to does talk about "self signed" certs and
how to make them in A03, but not in A2K.


Luck,

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:50 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in
Access2000


Hi Bob

But is it at all possible in A2000? I don't care that much if it is
"better" in later versions - it's not very difficult anyway.

/gustav

>>> bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/20 8:33 pm >>>
There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this
subject.
http://msaccessadvisor.com/


Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000. This
is
better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which version
of
Jet you have.

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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Tue Apr 26 11:20:49 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:20:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAD9F@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

Another thing I noticed with 2003: I can't change the SubDataSheetName
to None. I change it, save, but when I go back in it is set back to
Auto. How can I turn this off now?

 

Virginia



From James at fcidms.com  Tue Apr 26 11:38:11 2005
From: James at fcidms.com (James Barash)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:38:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving the binary data from a BLOB (SQL 2000)
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F05@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <0IFK008V6BJ2TB@mta9.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

Jim:
To answer your questions:
1) You are only getting 1 record because you are selected TOP 1 which will
only return a single record. Change that to TOP 20 and you will get 20
records
2) If you just want the size of your field, you can use: 
SELECT TOP 20 DATALENGTH(imagefield) FROM tbldocs WHERE imagefield IS NOT
NULL ORDER BY NewID()
That should give you the size of the field for 20 random records. If you
need the actual binary data, you'll probably need to use a cursor to loop
though the records one at a time.

Hope that helps.

James Barash

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim DeMarco
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:42 AM
To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving the binary data from a BLOB (SQL 2000)

List,

We are having an issue with uploading SQL data across our WAN.  The network
speed from our remote sites is 384 kBs and we're sending across numerous
data fields plus a images stored in a BLOB field.  The upload takes over 3
minutes per record with images but is instantaneous without them.  This
upload time is unacceptable as you can imagine.  It ties up the server and
no work can be done until the process runs it's course.  For the curious
we're using ADO recordsets to pass the data from the client to the server.

I'm trying to determine the actual size of the images as they're stored in
the SQL db (image field).  I have the following code that retrieves binary
data for one record but I can't get it to show more than one.

USE myDB
GO
DECLARE @ptrval varbinary(16)
SELECT top 1  @ptrval = TEXTPTR(imagefield) 
   FROM tbldocs pr where imagefield IS NOT NULL
READTEXT tbldocs.imagefield @ptrval 1 25
GO

My questions are:
1. How to show more than one record?
2. How to get the complete data from the field?  The second parameter in
@ptrval can be increased but all the data should be different sizes and I'd
just like to be able to pull it without a parameter.

I need to pull about 20 images in binary format to get an estimate of a
typical data send (one record can contain up to 20 images sometimes more).

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Tue Apr 26 11:49:25 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:49:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving the binary data from a BLOB (SQL 2000)
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F0C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Worked like a charm.  Thanks a lot.  Sorry I should have removed the "Top 1" (I was only getting one record without it before your code though).  The "Datalength" function is new to me.

Thanks,

Jim D.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of James Barash
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:38 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieving the binary data from a BLOB (SQL 2000)


Jim:
To answer your questions:
1) You are only getting 1 record because you are selected TOP 1 which will
only return a single record. Change that to TOP 20 and you will get 20
records
2) If you just want the size of your field, you can use: 
SELECT TOP 20 DATALENGTH(imagefield) FROM tbldocs WHERE imagefield IS NOT
NULL ORDER BY NewID()
That should give you the size of the field for 20 random records. If you
need the actual binary data, you'll probably need to use a cursor to loop
though the records one at a time.

Hope that helps.

James Barash

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To: AccessD (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieving the binary data from a BLOB (SQL 2000)

List,

We are having an issue with uploading SQL data across our WAN.  The network
speed from our remote sites is 384 kBs and we're sending across numerous
data fields plus a images stored in a BLOB field.  The upload takes over 3
minutes per record with images but is instantaneous without them.  This
upload time is unacceptable as you can imagine.  It ties up the server and
no work can be done until the process runs it's course.  For the curious
we're using ADO recordsets to pass the data from the client to the server.

I'm trying to determine the actual size of the images as they're stored in
the SQL db (image field).  I have the following code that retrieves binary
data for one record but I can't get it to show more than one.

USE myDB
GO
DECLARE @ptrval varbinary(16)
SELECT top 1  @ptrval = TEXTPTR(imagefield) 
   FROM tbldocs pr where imagefield IS NOT NULL
READTEXT tbldocs.imagefield @ptrval 1 25
GO

My questions are:
1. How to show more than one record?
2. How to get the complete data from the field?  The second parameter in
@ptrval can be increased but all the data should be different sizes and I'd
just like to be able to pull it without a parameter.

I need to pull about 20 images in binary format to get an estimate of a
typical data send (one record can contain up to 20 images sometimes more).

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan




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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Apr 26 11:50:36 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:50:36 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in
	Access2000
Message-ID: <s26e8d89.072@cactus.dk>

Hi Bob

Thanks, but it seems there is no luck. 
If you wish to digitally sign your code, forget A2000 and A2002/XP and
move to A2003.

/gustav

>>> bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/26 6:14 pm >>>
Hello Gustav,
The article that I referred you to does talk about "self signed" certs
and
how to make them in A03, but not in A2K.

Luck,

Bob

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:50 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Signing VBA with a digital certificate in
Access2000


Hi Bob

But is it at all possible in A2000? I don't care that much if it is
"better" in later versions - it's not very difficult anyway.

/gustav

>>> bheygood at abestsystems.com 04/20 8:33 pm >>>
There is a good article in the Access Advisor this month about this
subject.
http://msaccessadvisor.com/ 

Seems as usual Access got the stepchild treatment again for 2000. This
is better implemented in XP and 03. It also matters greatly which
version
of Jet you have.



From kaupca at chevrontexaco.com  Tue Apr 26 15:44:06 2005
From: kaupca at chevrontexaco.com (Kaup, Chester A)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:44:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Autonumber/autoincrement
Message-ID: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB67F431@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>

I have a database of oilfield injection wells. Periodically the wells
are changed from injecting water to injecting CO2 or visa versa. The
changes are independent from one well to the next. The records in the
table have well name, cycle number, injection fluid type and date of
change. I can build a form with drop down for well name and injection
fluid type. I could also use a calendar control for the date. I would
like the cycle number to fill in by itself based on the cycle number of
the previous record for the well getting a new record. Can this be done
using some kind of autoincrement? 

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Apr 26 17:05:59 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:05:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Autonumber/autoincrement
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337550@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Using a static function You could store the previous cycle number then call
it when needed.

Jim Hale

Static Function CycleNo(Optional intData As Integer) As Integer
    Dim intCurrent As Integer
    If intData <> 0 Then intCurrent = intData
   CycleNo = intCurrent
    
End Function

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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:44 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Autonumber/autoincrement


I have a database of oilfield injection wells. Periodically the wells
are changed from injecting water to injecting CO2 or visa versa. The
changes are independent from one well to the next. The records in the
table have well name, cycle number, injection fluid type and date of
change. I can build a form with drop down for well name and injection
fluid type. I could also use a calendar control for the date. I would
like the cycle number to fill in by itself based on the cycle number of
the previous record for the well getting a new record. Can this be done
using some kind of autoincrement? 

Chester Kaup
Information Management Technician
IT-MidContinent/MidContinent Business Unit
CTN 8-687-7415  
Outside 432-687-7415

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Apr 26 17:09:18 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:09:18 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Autonumber/autoincrement
In-Reply-To: <1375769556091B4DAABC159F944CA1BB67F431@bocnte2k4.hou150.chevrontexaco.net>
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On 26 Apr 2005 at 15:44, Kaup, Chester A wrote:

> I have a database of oilfield injection wells. Periodically the wells
> are changed from injecting water to injecting CO2 or visa versa. The
> changes are independent from one well to the next. The records in the
> table have well name, cycle number, injection fluid type and date of
> change. I can build a form with drop down for well name and injection
> fluid type. I could also use a calendar control for the date. I would
> like the cycle number to fill in by itself based on the cycle number of
> the previous record for the well getting a new record. Can this be done
> using some kind of autoincrement? 
> 

You can do it by setting  CycleNumber to
DMax("CycleNumber","tblInjectionChanges","WellName = '" & cblWellname & 
"'") +1
Best place to do this is probably in the form's Before_Update event.



-- 
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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Tue Apr 26 17:51:20 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:51:20 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in a
	bind.
Message-ID: <2270abd36444456aa84bb0e89fcf2cae@christopherhawkins.com>

Here's the deal.? One of my projects requires Invoice and InvoiceLine data to be pulled out of a SQL Server database and pushed into Quickbooks.? The client wants?it seamless, so I've been reading up on QBFC and QBXML to make it happen.

A month later, I am nowhere.? I even joined the Intuit Developer Network, and I'm finding the documentation to be useless, the developer forums to be useless, and the lightly-commented sample code to be a game of "guess the object model", with numerous things in the sample code that are not in the SDK documentation.

I need help.? And I can't seem to find anyone who has done this before.

Does anyone here have decent chops with QBFC or QBXML?? 

-Christopher-
 


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Apr 26 19:54:59 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:54:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in a
	bind.
References: <2270abd36444456aa84bb0e89fcf2cae@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <426EE2E3.1090701@shaw.ca>

Is there any reason you cant use QODBC, I am not sure if it reads all 
the fields in Quickbooks in all versions and countries
You would want the read/ write Pro ODBC driver for $200 US
http://www.qodbc.com/qodbc.htm
Any there is a 30 day trial to play around with.
Here is tutorial how to hook to Access but you can use excel, ado etc..
http://www.qodbc.com/qodbcaccess.htm
I believe QBXML was designed to be mainly used for web apps.

Christopher Hawkins wrote:

>Here's the deal.  One of my projects requires Invoice and InvoiceLine data to be pulled out of a SQL Server database and pushed into Quickbooks.  The client wants it seamless, so I've been reading up on QBFC and QBXML to make it happen.
>
>A month later, I am nowhere.  I even joined the Intuit Developer Network, and I'm finding the documentation to be useless, the developer forums to be useless, and the lightly-commented sample code to be a game of "guess the object model", with numerous things in the sample code that are not in the SDK documentation.
>
>I need help.  And I can't seem to find anyone who has done this before.
>
>Does anyone here have decent chops with QBFC or QBXML?  
>
>-Christopher-
> 
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Apr 26 20:59:29 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:59:29 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <7039407213104F429D751263FAB222A901408600@OTTO.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

AFAIK you can't
I have had to re-do the 'look' of my screens <sigh>
But having said that I have seen 2003 installations give the old 'square
edge' buttons and some
Installations of 2003 give the 'rounded edge' buttons.
It might be an OS or Office SP issue - but whatever it is - I had to
make changes to accommodate it.
I have also noticed I can't get the 'new look' tab controls to be
exactly the same colour as my backgrounds.
They use a colour that Windows calls 'white smoke'
SO the background of my forms now has to be 'white smoke' if I want the
tab to appear ...um...'neatly'

(I think whitesmoke is 245 245 245 or 16119285 if you are using the
property sheet (Or something like it)

I hope I am wrong and someone can tell me a better way

See ya

DD


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Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2005 1:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

Ok, in 2003 how do you make a tab control look like it did in 2000? I
can't make it raised & it is this sickly pale green color & beige
background.

 

Even to make the controls on the tab sunken I have to go through each
choice in the Special Effect list first (shadowed, chiseled, then
sunken) to get it to show the way I want. Is this normal?

 

Virginia

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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Wed Apr 27 05:02:48 2005
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:02:48 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit
References: <200411120145.iAC1jUdQ007739@cooper.uws.edu.au>
	<019201c4c879$8a5ff900$e81865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <001301c54b10$43f421c0$9115758f@aine>

Lembit

Could you translate please



Mijn naam is Jan Peeters en ben student handelsingenieur aan de KUL.  Voor 
het vak "beleidsinformatica" heb ik de opdracht gekregen om een 
gevallenstudie uit te voeren waarin ten minste 3 thema's van de cursus aan 
bod komen.  Ik zal eerst een paar voorbeelden geven van de thema's: 
herbruikbaarheid in informatica systemen, overerving, persistentie en 
materialisatie, het gebruik van XML, web services, verschillende soorten 
databases, architecturen, SQL en hoe de bedrijfsstrategie eruit ziet met 
behulp van informatica.

Als er bij u in de organisatie verschillende thema's aan bod komen zou ik 
zeer graag de mogelijkheid krijgen om uw bedrijf als casestudy te nemen.





From lembit.soobik at t-online.de  Wed Apr 27 05:35:23 2005
From: lembit.soobik at t-online.de (Lembit Soobik)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:35:23 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit
References: <200411120145.iAC1jUdQ007739@cooper.uws.edu.au><019201c4c879$8a5ff900$e81865cb@winxp>
	<001301c54b10$43f421c0$9115758f@aine>
Message-ID: <000401c54b14$d1e063a0$0800a8c0@s856>

Sorry, Martin,
not my language. I guess its Dutch, Maybe Erwin can help?

Lembit

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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit


> Lembit
>
> Could you translate please
>
>
>
> Mijn naam is Jan Peeters en ben student handelsingenieur aan de KUL.  Voor 
> het vak "beleidsinformatica" heb ik de opdracht gekregen om een 
> gevallenstudie uit te voeren waarin ten minste 3 thema's van de cursus aan 
> bod komen.  Ik zal eerst een paar voorbeelden geven van de thema's: 
> herbruikbaarheid in informatica systemen, overerving, persistentie en 
> materialisatie, het gebruik van XML, web services, verschillende soorten 
> databases, architecturen, SQL en hoe de bedrijfsstrategie eruit ziet met 
> behulp van informatica.
>
> Als er bij u in de organisatie verschillende thema's aan bod komen zou ik 
> zeer graag de mogelijkheid krijgen om uw bedrijf als casestudy te nemen.
>
>
>
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 27 06:27:04 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:27:04 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5ABE@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Yes dutch

Received the same mail today.

He's a student at the KU Leuven University and has a task assigned for
his course IT Management to do a case study where at least 3 of the
folowing items are covered.
Reuseability of IT Systems, overerving (dont know this one),
persistance, materialisation, use of XML, web services, different types
of databases, architectures, SQL and how the company strategy looks like
with aid of IT.

If different of above items are present in your company he would ask to
do use you company for a case study.

I'm afraid my company is not big enough to cover these issues.

There was a questionnaire included, but it was in dutch to. I supose you
get the picture with this mail.

Greetz
Erwin


 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lembit Soobik
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:35 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] For Lembit

Sorry, Martin,
not my language. I guess its Dutch, Maybe Erwin can help?

Lembit

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From: "Martin Reid" <mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit


> Lembit
>
> Could you translate please
>
>
>
> Mijn naam is Jan Peeters en ben student handelsingenieur aan de KUL.
Voor 
> het vak "beleidsinformatica" heb ik de opdracht gekregen om een 
> gevallenstudie uit te voeren waarin ten minste 3 thema's van de cursus
aan 
> bod komen.  Ik zal eerst een paar voorbeelden geven van de thema's: 
> herbruikbaarheid in informatica systemen, overerving, persistentie en 
> materialisatie, het gebruik van XML, web services, verschillende
soorten 
> databases, architecturen, SQL en hoe de bedrijfsstrategie eruit ziet
met 
> behulp van informatica.
>
> Als er bij u in de organisatie verschillende thema's aan bod komen zou
ik 
> zeer graag de mogelijkheid krijgen om uw bedrijf als casestudy te
nemen.
>
>
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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Apr 27 06:29:38 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:29:38 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5ABF@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Don't know why you received this Martin, I tend to believe it needs to
be a Belgian company, probably prefered around Leuven to make commuting
easy.

But if you are intrested you should really contact him.
Most Dutch speaking Belgians (Flemisch) do speak and write some kind of
English.

Greetz

Erwin 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit

Lembit

Could you translate please



Mijn naam is Jan Peeters en ben student handelsingenieur aan de KUL.
Voor het vak "beleidsinformatica" heb ik de opdracht gekregen om een
gevallenstudie uit te voeren waarin ten minste 3 thema's van de cursus
aan bod komen.  Ik zal eerst een paar voorbeelden geven van de thema's: 
herbruikbaarheid in informatica systemen, overerving, persistentie en
materialisatie, het gebruik van XML, web services, verschillende soorten
databases, architecturen, SQL en hoe de bedrijfsstrategie eruit ziet met
behulp van informatica.

Als er bij u in de organisatie verschillende thema's aan bod komen zou
ik zeer graag de mogelijkheid krijgen om uw bedrijf als casestudy te
nemen.



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From Robert at servicexp.com  Wed Apr 27 06:38:23 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:38:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in
	abind.
In-Reply-To: <2270abd36444456aa84bb0e89fcf2cae@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAkFctmauQHEapbETsA84PTMKAAAAQAAAAPx9Q9kjsskuN78FFVr0g3wEAAAAA@servicexp.com>

Christopher,
 Did you join the QB Project team I tried to start a few months ago? I have
been real busy, but now should have some time to get the environment for the
discussion set up. I will be hosting it on my server, In Share Point. E-mail
me to let me know if you would like to help work on this project...

 Anyone else who would like to work on this project, just e-mail me.
Hopefully by the weekend, I will have the site completed and we can to start
work on it..  

Christopher,
 What I have so far is fairly rough code, but the system does work..

Robert Gracie
Robert @ ServiceXP  . Com  (remove spaces)

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in
abind.

Here's the deal.? One of my projects requires Invoice and InvoiceLine data
to be pulled out of a SQL Server database and pushed into Quickbooks.? The
client wants?it seamless, so I've been reading up on QBFC and QBXML to make
it happen.

A month later, I am nowhere.? I even joined the Intuit Developer Network,
and I'm finding the documentation to be useless, the developer forums to be
useless, and the lightly-commented sample code to be a game of "guess the
object model", with numerous things in the sample code that are not in the
SDK documentation.

I need help.? And I can't seem to find anyone who has done this before.

Does anyone here have decent chops with QBFC or QBXML?? 

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From kwilliam at ashlandnet.com  Wed Apr 27 08:07:07 2005
From: kwilliam at ashlandnet.com (Keith Williamson)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:07:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in
	abind.
In-Reply-To: <2270abd36444456aa84bb0e89fcf2cae@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <004201c54b2a$04461aa0$64aba8c0@ashlandnet.com>

Good luck with that.  I gave up trying to get their QB-ODBC to work
correctly.

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in
abind.


Here's the deal.? One of my projects requires Invoice and InvoiceLine data
to be pulled out of a SQL Server database and pushed into Quickbooks.? The
client wants?it seamless, so I've been reading up on QBFC and QBXML to make
it happen.

A month later, I am nowhere.? I even joined the Intuit Developer Network,
and I'm finding the documentation to be useless, the developer forums to be
useless, and the lightly-commented sample code to be a game of "guess the
object model", with numerous things in the sample code that are not in the
SDK documentation.

I need help.? And I can't seem to find anyone who has done this before.

Does anyone here have decent chops with QBFC or QBXML?? 

-Christopher-
 
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Apr 27 08:26:00 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:26:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm i
	n a bind.
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337553@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Christopher, I've not pushed data up to QB but have used the QODBC driver to
link to QB tables and create Access tables. They have a data schema of QB at
the link below that you may find useful. Two thngs- the drive is s-l-o-w
since it translates to HTML. I haven't found anything faster. Second- QB
does not use a relational model which makes pushing data up everywhere it
needs to go a nightmare. Good luck
Jim Hale

http://www.qodbc.com/schema.htm

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hawkins [mailto:clh at christopherhawkins.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in
a bind.


Here's the deal.? One of my projects requires Invoice and InvoiceLine data
to be pulled out of a SQL Server database and pushed into Quickbooks.? The
client wants?it seamless, so I've been reading up on QBFC and QBXML to make
it happen.

A month later, I am nowhere.? I even joined the Intuit Developer Network,
and I'm finding the documentation to be useless, the developer forums to be
useless, and the lightly-commented sample code to be a game of "guess the
object model", with numerous things in the sample code that are not in the
SDK documentation.

I need help.? And I can't seem to find anyone who has done this before.

Does anyone here have decent chops with QBFC or QBXML?? 

-Christopher-
 
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Wed Apr 27 08:29:34 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:29:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CADF5@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

I need to format a Time field so they always enter time as 2400, 2330,
etc. If they enter 1:00 I want it to change to (1300) the 24 hour time.
How do I do that?

 

Virginia



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Apr 27 09:16:56 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:16:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAD9B@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
References: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAD9B@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c92050427071629346e5b@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/26/05, Hollis,Virginia <HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com> wrote:
> Ok, in 2003 how do you make a tab control look like it did in 2000? I
> can't make it raised & it is this sickly pale green color & beige
> background.
> 
> Even to make the controls on the tab sunken I have to go through each
> choice in the Special Effect list first (shadowed, chiseled, then
> sunken) to get it to show the way I want. Is this normal?

Virginia,

I received this e-mail from Stephen Bond, who cannot post at the
moment with this reply:

-=-=-=-=-

FWIW if this helps, there is an
option in Access 2003 which toggles between the new
(flat-looking) command buttons and the previous (much
clearer) raised version.

It is in Tools>Options>Forms/Reports>Use Windows Themed
Controls on Form

I haven't seen an answer to the original question come thru,
so hope this helps whoever was asking.

-=-=-=-=-

Hope this helps,

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preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Wed Apr 27 09:40:18 2005
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:40:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CADF5@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050427144019.CLQK17140.mta10.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>

Virginia

How will you know? If they enter 1:00, do they mean AM or PM?

If you have another field for AM/PM, then you can easily convert.

Check the AMPM field on BeforeUpdate.
  If AM, do not allow the time field to exceed 12:00.
  If PM, and time field is < 12:00, use the DateAdd to add 12 hours.
  If they enter 12:00 exactly, you should probably popup a window asking
them to clarify if they mean noon or midnight.

FYI - http://www.spacearchive.info/military.htm

Regards,

Bob Gajewski


 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 09:30 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time

I need to format a Time field so they always enter time as 2400, 2330, etc.
If they enter 1:00 I want it to change to (1300) the 24 hour time.
How do I do that?

 

Virginia

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Apr 27 10:32:01 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:32:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Double-clicking MDB in explorer does not open MDB...
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A37E80@ADGSERVER>

Hey,

I have a client that is having the problem that when she double-clicks the
MDB in explorer, Access opens, but the MDB does not open.  If she then does
file/open from within Access, it opens the database correctly.

Anyone have any ideas as to what may be going on and how to fix it?

Thanks,
Bobby


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 27 10:31:48 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:31:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A015@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can use an input mask of 0000;0;"_" to force them to enter the value
in military time and use a validation rule to prevent anything below
0000 or above 2400, but that's as far as it goes.  Since you and Access
can't read minds, you have no way of knowing whether they meant 0100 or
1300 hours, so they are responsible for entering it right.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:30 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time


I need to format a Time field so they always enter time as 2400, 2330,
etc. If they enter 1:00 I want it to change to (1300) the 24 hour time.
How do I do that?

 

Virginia

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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Wed Apr 27 10:38:20 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:38:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOEPMCPAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

A client came across this for me...

One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.  After
gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum to get
the total hours.

Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
6.00000023841858

Why the strange decimals?

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com






From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 27 10:45:14 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:45:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A017@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Assuming that Access/Office 2003 shares some behaviors with Visual
Studio.Net, the style is affected by the the theme and by whether the
object or application has been configured to support themes.  If you use
a classic windows style instead of the WinXP themes, everything may look
as it did before automatically.  

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Dick [mailto:D.Dick at uws.edu.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:59 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control


AFAIK you can't
I have had to re-do the 'look' of my screens <sigh>
But having said that I have seen 2003 installations give the old 'square
edge' buttons and some Installations of 2003 give the 'rounded edge'
buttons. It might be an OS or Office SP issue - but whatever it is - I
had to make changes to accommodate it. I have also noticed I can't get
the 'new look' tab controls to be exactly the same colour as my
backgrounds. They use a colour that Windows calls 'white smoke' SO the
background of my forms now has to be 'white smoke' if I want the tab to
appear ...um...'neatly'

(I think whitesmoke is 245 245 245 or 16119285 if you are using the
property sheet (Or something like it)

I hope I am wrong and someone can tell me a better way

See ya

DD


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2005 1:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

Ok, in 2003 how do you make a tab control look like it did in 2000? I
can't make it raised & it is this sickly pale green color & beige
background.

 

Even to make the controls on the tab sunken I have to go through each
choice in the Special Effect list first (shadowed, chiseled, then
sunken) to get it to show the way I want. Is this normal?

 

Virginia

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 27 10:53:09 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:53:09 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <s26fd194.077@cactus.dk>

Hi Reuben

He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
using data type Single for that.
Change to data type Currency ...

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
A client came across this for me...

One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours. 
After
gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum
to get
the total hours.

Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
6.00000023841858

Why the strange decimals?

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 27 11:00:02 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:00:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739BC@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I will wager that your hours are being captured in a double field.  If
so, change it to currency.  What you're getting is floating point creep,
which can occur even with simple addition/subtraction, and the only way
to avoid it is to not use a floating point data type.  

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:38 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


A client came across this for me...

One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
After gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a
sum to get the total hours.

Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
6.00000023841858

Why the strange decimals?

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com




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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Wed Apr 27 11:11:57 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:11:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE06@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

Does the field have to be text? I put it as Date/Time & it keeps saying
the value entered is not valid for this field.
 
Thanks for the help.
Virginia
 
*********************
You can use an input mask of 0000;0;"_" to force them to enter the value
in military time and use a validation rule to prevent anything below
0000 or above 2400, but that's as far as it goes.  Since you and Access
can't read minds, you have no way of knowing whether they meant 0100 or
1300 hours, so they are responsible for entering it right.
 
Charlotte Foust
 

 



From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Wed Apr 27 11:26:18 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:26:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
In-Reply-To: <s26fd194.077@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAMEPOCPAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never considered it
would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after all the work I did on
payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


Hi Reuben

He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
using data type Single for that.
Change to data type Currency ...

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
A client came across this for me...

One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
After
gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum
to get
the total hours.

Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
6.00000023841858

Why the strange decimals?

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com

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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Wed Apr 27 11:32:00 2005
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:32:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Double-clicking MDB in explorer does not open MDB...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30A37E80@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <20050427163159.OXBT13270.mta11.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>

I don't know how technical your client is ...


Open Explorer, then click on View, Folder Options, File Types.

Navigate to .MDB

Click on Advanced, Open, Edit.

Make sure that the end of the Application Used To Perform Action has "%1"
(including the quotes). This is the parameter that tells Windows to pass the
db filename to Access.

For Access2K3, the string is probably: "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office 9.0\Office\MSACCESS.EXE" /NOSTARTUP "%1"

The "%1" also has to be in the DDE message
([SetForeground][ShellOpenDatabase "%1"]), but just looking for it should
help identify if this is the problem.

Regards,

Bob Gajewski




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Double-clicking MDB in explorer does not open MDB...

Hey,

I have a client that is having the problem that when she double-clicks the
MDB in explorer, Access opens, but the MDB does not open.  If she then does
file/open from within Access, it opens the database correctly.

Anyone have any ideas as to what may be going on and how to fix it?

Thanks,
Bobby
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 27 11:37:09 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:37:09 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <s26fdbe4.079@cactus.dk>

Hi Reuben

Charlotte a guy? You better be careful!

You mostly see this with subtraction (which includes addition of
negative values); I've never seen it with addition of positives.

If you can't change the source data type be sure to wrap the values in
CCur().
If you need more than the four decimals of Currency you may choose
Double but round the results whenever possible.

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 6:26 pm >>>
You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never considered
it
would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after all the work I
did on
payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


Hi Reuben

He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
using data type Single for that.
Change to data type Currency ...

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
A client came across this for me...

One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
After gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a
sum
to get the total hours.

Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
6.00000023841858

Why the strange decimals?

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 



From kost36 at otenet.gr  Wed Apr 27 11:38:05 2005
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:38:05 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
References: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D48E@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <000b01c54b47$7cda4e10$0100a8c0@KOST36>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:07 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


>I just clicked on the link and it worked for me.
>
> I recall our old corporate firewall would block or mangle this site,
> particularily when browsing with IE.  But then I upgraded to Firefox.
> BIG improvement.  No looking back!
>
> Here's a Google cache of the page I mentioned:
> http://tinyurl.com/b9jho
>
> Let me know if you need the source files.  I can send them to you
> offline.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
> I've had a few people suggest this site... but I can't hit the site.  I
> even tried the main page http://www.vbaccelerator.com, Has the site
> moved?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
>>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
>>
>>I've played around with the vbAccelerator project:
>>http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp
>>
>>It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely
>>distributable.
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
>>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>>
>>Hello All,
>>
>>The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm not
>>worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP Pro...and it
>>allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any way to call
>>this function from Access/vba/api or something?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Mark
>>
>> >From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
>> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>> >solving<ac
> essd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
>> >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>> >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
>> >
>> >If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out
>> >to WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.
>> >
>> >Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have
>> >not
>>
>> >used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
>> >
>> >Bobby
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A
>> >Matte
>> >Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
>> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>> >Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>> >
>> >
>> >Hello All,
>> >
>> >Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm
>> >receiving
>> >
>> >a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import
>> >automatically.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Mark
>> >
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Apr 27 12:03:50 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:03:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Double-clicking MDB in explorer does not open MDB...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B8E409@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA75@ADGSERVER>

Hey Bob,

I have already done that.  Everything compared to what I had (which is what
you said).

Thanks,
Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Gajewski
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Double-clicking MDB in explorer does not open MDB...


I don't know how technical your client is ...


Open Explorer, then click on View, Folder Options, File Types.

Navigate to .MDB

Click on Advanced, Open, Edit.

Make sure that the end of the Application Used To Perform Action has "%1"
(including the quotes). This is the parameter that tells Windows to pass the
db filename to Access.

For Access2K3, the string is probably: "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
Office\Office 9.0\Office\MSACCESS.EXE" /NOSTARTUP "%1"

The "%1" also has to be in the DDE message
([SetForeground][ShellOpenDatabase "%1"]), but just looking for it should
help identify if this is the problem.

Regards,

Bob Gajewski




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Double-clicking MDB in explorer does not open MDB...

Hey,

I have a client that is having the problem that when she double-clicks the
MDB in explorer, Access opens, but the MDB does not open.  If she then does
file/open from within Access, it opens the database correctly.

Anyone have any ideas as to what may be going on and how to fix it?

Thanks,
Bobby
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 27 12:14:36 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:14:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
References: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAOEPMCPAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>
Message-ID: <426FC87C.2080205@shaw.ca>

You will get this error with any series of long computer calculations.
The general way to resolve this,  is to round to the number of 
significant digits desired
 then do each addition or division etc.

When working with money the number of signicant digits  is the the 
smallest unit or 2 for decimal currencies
So you don't have to work this out for calculations.

 Here is a function I use for Rounding Currency,
Your accountant may use different rounding methods simple, banker's, 
synchronous or asynchronous

It takes care of sign problem and allows precision selection
of currency value. Not all currencies are decimal based, old turkish lira

Function RoundIt( _
    x As Currency, _
    Optional Precision As Integer = 2 _
    ) As Currency

    RoundIt = Sgn(x) * Int(CDec(Abs(x)) * 10 ^ Precision _
    + 0.5) / 10 ^ Precision
      Debug.Print RoundIt
End Function

There is an entire branch of mathematics that deals purely with error 
propagation.  It can give you
accurate guesses at what the final accuracy will be of mixed accuracy 
calculations.

ACC2000: Round or Truncate Currency Values to the Intended Number of
Decimals
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q210564

essentialy to round via bankers rounding (there are varieties of methods
for this, especially on rounding up or down on negative numbers)
so see this as well.

ACC2000: How to Round a Number Up or Down by a Desired Increment
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q209996

Simplest explanation of significant digits and rounding errors
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/math99/math99163.htm

http://www.rit.edu/~uphysics/uncertainties/Uncertaintiespart2.html
http://www.rit.edu/~uphysics/uncertainties/Uncertaintiespart1.html
http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/phy_labs/AppendixB/AppendixB.html


Knuth has a very good analysis of floating point errors


Reuben Cummings wrote:

>A client came across this for me...
>
>One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.  After
>gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum to get
>the total hours.
>
>Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
>6.00000023841858
>
>Why the strange decimals?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Reuben Cummings
>GFC, LLC
>phone: 812.523.1017
>email: reuben at gfconsultants.com
>
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 27 12:14:44 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:14:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A01C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

When I enter date and time separately, I always use a text field on the
*form* for time to avoid problems and control the format.  Sorry I
didn't specify.  If you are trying to use this on a table, you can't.
However, you can use the Short Time format, which is 17:00.  Then all
you need do on a form is use "00:00" for the format string.  Access
short time won't let you enter 2400, which has to be converted to 0000
hours in the form.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Hollis,Virginia [mailto:HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time


Does the field have to be text? I put it as Date/Time & it keeps saying
the value entered is not valid for this field.
 
Thanks for the help.
Virginia
 
*********************
You can use an input mask of 0000;0;"_" to force them to enter the value
in military time and use a validation rule to prevent anything below
0000 or above 2400, but that's as far as it goes.  Since you and Access
can't read minds, you have no way of knowing whether they meant 0100 or
1300 hours, so they are responsible for entering it right.
 
Charlotte Foust
 

 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 27 12:17:17 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:17:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739BE@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I've seen it with addition as well.  You can build a test in code and
loop multiple times adding 1 to the integer of a floating point and
testing the mod to see if there is a remainder.  Believe me, it will
occur.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:37 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


Hi Reuben

Charlotte a guy? You better be careful!

You mostly see this with subtraction (which includes addition of
negative values); I've never seen it with addition of positives.

If you can't change the source data type be sure to wrap the values in
CCur(). If you need more than the four decimals of Currency you may
choose Double but round the results whenever possible.

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 6:26 pm >>>
You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never considered
it would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after all the work I
did on payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


Hi Reuben

He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are using
data type Single for that. Change to data type Currency ...

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
A client came across this for me...

One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours. After
gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum to
get the total hours.

Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
6.00000023841858

Why the strange decimals?

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Wed Apr 27 12:44:03 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:44:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
Message-ID: <s26f9783.002@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I am whipping up a new program and I wanted to try something new for the
interface on the menus. I've had this "look" in my head, and I figured
I'd try it out on this program...the program seems pretty small and
easy, so it would be a good time to spend the extra time on some new
interface ideas.

Anyhow, I usually use command buttons, and I change the text color as I
mouse over them, or when the gain focus via the keyboard. I wanted to
try something slightly different and am experimenting with labels and
text boxes. Labels quickly proved unworthy of the task, because they
can't get focus...unless I am missing something here...so I have focused
my energy on developing text box buttons. I have them pretty close to
completion, and I like them, except they highlight the text and/or put a
cursor in them. Is there any way to not highlight the text inside and to
not get a cursor in the text box, even when it is clicked?

Thanks 

John W Clark


From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Wed Apr 27 12:51:07 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:51:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
In-Reply-To: <426FC87C.2080205@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAMEABDAAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I do that exact thing to calculate the amount payed.  This error is really
just an oversight on my part from several years ago.  I thought I had made
all numbers currency for these calcs.

However, I still didn't think an error would build up in addition of simple
decimals.

Anyhow, I have already programmed the data type change into the BEU (and
tested the results) so all my clients will get the fix next time they update
themselves.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


You will get this error with any series of long computer calculations.
The general way to resolve this,  is to round to the number of
significant digits desired
 then do each addition or division etc.

When working with money the number of signicant digits  is the the
smallest unit or 2 for decimal currencies
So you don't have to work this out for calculations.

 Here is a function I use for Rounding Currency,
Your accountant may use different rounding methods simple, banker's,
synchronous or asynchronous

It takes care of sign problem and allows precision selection
of currency value. Not all currencies are decimal based, old turkish lira

Function RoundIt( _
    x As Currency, _
    Optional Precision As Integer = 2 _
    ) As Currency

    RoundIt = Sgn(x) * Int(CDec(Abs(x)) * 10 ^ Precision _
    + 0.5) / 10 ^ Precision
      Debug.Print RoundIt
End Function

There is an entire branch of mathematics that deals purely with error
propagation.  It can give you
accurate guesses at what the final accuracy will be of mixed accuracy
calculations.

ACC2000: Round or Truncate Currency Values to the Intended Number of
Decimals
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q210564

essentialy to round via bankers rounding (there are varieties of methods
for this, especially on rounding up or down on negative numbers)
so see this as well.

ACC2000: How to Round a Number Up or Down by a Desired Increment
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q209996

Simplest explanation of significant digits and rounding errors
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/math99/math99163.htm

http://www.rit.edu/~uphysics/uncertainties/Uncertaintiespart2.html
http://www.rit.edu/~uphysics/uncertainties/Uncertaintiespart1.html
http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/phy_labs/AppendixB/AppendixB.html


Knuth has a very good analysis of floating point errors


Reuben Cummings wrote:

>A client came across this for me...
>
>One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.  After
>gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum to
get
>the total hours.
>
>Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
>6.00000023841858
>
>Why the strange decimals?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Reuben Cummings
>GFC, LLC
>phone: 812.523.1017
>email: reuben at gfconsultants.com
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From accma at sympatico.ca  Wed Apr 27 12:52:57 2005
From: accma at sympatico.ca (accma at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:52:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access
Message-ID: <20050427175257.GWV1659.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@mxmta.bellnexxia.net>

Hi group,

For a customer, I have a database in A97 with security that does not allow someone to simply open A97 and this database without using the mdw file.

This customer ask met if it's possible to import and export data from another database which is in "file maker pro".

I'm not familiar with file maker pro.  Would that be possible?

Thanks!

Annie



From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr 27 13:00:36 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:00:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3D7@main2.marlow.com>

You can give 'labels' the focus, just not the default focus.  My new
MiniCalendar (which I'll get around to finishing one of these days) has
nothing but labels on it.  Because of that, you can 'move the focus' from
one label to another.  It's simply a matter of internally noting what has
the focus, and what's next, and then changing the look of the label, so that
it shows to have the focus.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:44 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons


I am whipping up a new program and I wanted to try something new for the
interface on the menus. I've had this "look" in my head, and I figured
I'd try it out on this program...the program seems pretty small and
easy, so it would be a good time to spend the extra time on some new
interface ideas.

Anyhow, I usually use command buttons, and I change the text color as I
mouse over them, or when the gain focus via the keyboard. I wanted to
try something slightly different and am experimenting with labels and
text boxes. Labels quickly proved unworthy of the task, because they
can't get focus...unless I am missing something here...so I have focused
my energy on developing text box buttons. I have them pretty close to
completion, and I like them, except they highlight the text and/or put a
cursor in them. Is there any way to not highlight the text inside and to
not get a cursor in the text box, even when it is clicked?

Thanks 

John W Clark
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Apr 27 13:11:16 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:11:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B8E442@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA78@ADGSERVER>

I think that the hidecaret api function will do what you want.

Here's a VB example:
http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_hide_textbox_caret.html

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:44 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons


I am whipping up a new program and I wanted to try something new for the
interface on the menus. I've had this "look" in my head, and I figured I'd
try it out on this program...the program seems pretty small and easy, so it
would be a good time to spend the extra time on some new interface ideas.

Anyhow, I usually use command buttons, and I change the text color as I
mouse over them, or when the gain focus via the keyboard. I wanted to try
something slightly different and am experimenting with labels and text
boxes. Labels quickly proved unworthy of the task, because they can't get
focus...unless I am missing something here...so I have focused my energy on
developing text box buttons. I have them pretty close to completion, and I
like them, except they highlight the text and/or put a cursor in them. Is
there any way to not highlight the text inside and to not get a cursor in
the text box, even when it is clicked?

Thanks 

John W Clark
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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Wed Apr 27 13:12:06 2005
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Don [ITS])
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:12:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
Message-ID: <E2B2D43190AF7948BF79EF0079153D3C01301860@PDAWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

John, 

I experimented with something similar, but I used transparent command
buttons over labels.  This allows you to use all the capabilities of
command buttons without being limited by their fixed visual style.  The
result of my experiment was pretty cool, but it was kinda flickery, so I
didn't actually use it for anything.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:44 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons


I am whipping up a new program and I wanted to try something new for the
interface on the menus. I've had this "look" in my head, and I figured
I'd try it out on this program...the program seems pretty small and
easy, so it would be a good time to spend the extra time on some new
interface ideas.

Anyhow, I usually use command buttons, and I change the text color as I
mouse over them, or when the gain focus via the keyboard. I wanted to
try something slightly different and am experimenting with labels and
text boxes. Labels quickly proved unworthy of the task, because they
can't get focus...unless I am missing something here...so I have focused
my energy on developing text box buttons. I have them pretty close to
completion, and I like them, except they highlight the text and/or put a
cursor in them. Is there any way to not highlight the text inside and to
not get a cursor in the text box, even when it is clicked?

Thanks 

John W Clark
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Apr 27 13:12:35 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:12:35 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <s26ff246.080@cactus.dk>

Hi Charlotte

It fails all right, but not you have to go beyond 16 mio.:

Public Sub TestSingle()

  Dim sng As Single
  Dim lng As Long
  
  For lng = 0 To 100000000
    If lng <> sng Then Exit For
    sng = sng + 1
  Next
  Debug.Print lng, sng

End Sub

It runs to:
 16777217      1.677722E+07 

/gustav

>>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 04/27 7:17 pm >>>
I've seen it with addition as well.  You can build a test in code and
loop multiple times adding 1 to the integer of a floating point and
testing the mod to see if there is a remainder.  Believe me, it will
occur.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:37 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


Hi Reuben

Charlotte a guy? You better be careful!

You mostly see this with subtraction (which includes addition of
negative values); I've never seen it with addition of positives.

If you can't change the source data type be sure to wrap the values in
CCur(). If you need more than the four decimals of Currency you may
choose Double but round the results whenever possible.

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 6:26 pm >>>
You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never
considered
it would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after all the work
I
did on payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


Hi Reuben

He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
using
data type Single for that. Change to data type Currency ...

/gustav

>>> reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
A client came across this for me...

One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
After
gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum
to
get the total hours.

Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
6.00000023841858

Why the strange decimals?

Thanks.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Wed Apr 27 13:14:23 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:14:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE0F@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

That looks a lot better. Thanks so much.
 
Virginia
 
**************
Virginia,
 
I received this e-mail from Stephen Bond, who cannot post at the
moment with this reply:
 
-=-=-=-=-
 
FWIW if this helps, there is an
option in Access 2003 which toggles between the new
(flat-looking) command buttons and the previous (much
clearer) raised version.
 
It is in Tools>Options>Forms/Reports>Use Windows Themed
Controls on Form
 
I haven't seen an answer to the original question come thru,
so hope this helps whoever was asking.

 



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Wed Apr 27 13:18:25 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:18:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE10@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

One more question.... Isn't setting the Tools, Options, etc specific to
each PC (Access settings)? So when someone else opens the form it will
look like it did with the sick light colors.

 

Is there something you can set on startup to change the setting to not
show the windows themed control on forms?

 

We have XP & Office 2003.

 

Virginia



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Apr 27 13:31:56 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:31:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
In-Reply-To: <E2B2D43190AF7948BF79EF0079153D3C01301860@PDAWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
References: <E2B2D43190AF7948BF79EF0079153D3C01301860@PDAWB06C.ad.sprint.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c9205042711314173ed93@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/27/05, Mcgillivray, Don [ITS] <donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com> wrote:

> I experimented with something similar, but I used transparent command
> buttons over labels.  This allows you to use all the capabilities of
> command buttons without being limited by their fixed visual style.  The
> result of my experiment was pretty cool, but it was kinda flickery, so I
> didn't actually use it for anything.

I did something similar. I used picture boxes, labels and command
buttons to produce an "outlook" bar style sidebar for an app.

If anyone want to see it, let me know off-line (carbonnb at gmail.com)
and I'll strip the app to a bare minimum sample.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Wed Apr 27 14:18:05 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:18:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE1C@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

I never could get this right, so hopefully someone can explain it to me
so I can understand how to set up a table of names.

 

This new database has names for contact, issued to, issued by, closed
by, released by. Anyway, I know you aren't supposed to set up tables for
each type of name (I think). The right way is to set some kind of field
in the table that tells you what kind of person it is (the contact,
etc).

 

If you add a field to tbl_PermitNames (PermitNamesID, PermitName,) &
Type? 

 

When you add a combo box on the form for entering/selecting the name,
how does it know what type to add it to?

 

As you can see I am so lost on this.

 

Virginia



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Apr 27 14:41:26 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:41:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B8E49E@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA7F@ADGSERVER>

If I understand your question, you want to have a TypeID in the one table
(Maintbl).  In another table you would have the types with a TypeID as the
primary key.

You would set the record source to "SELECT TypeID,Type FROM Types;".  The
combo box would be bound to the TypeID field in the Maintbl table.

So, is that clear as mud now?

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:18 PM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names


I never could get this right, so hopefully someone can explain it to me so I
can understand how to set up a table of names.

 

This new database has names for contact, issued to, issued by, closed by,
released by. Anyway, I know you aren't supposed to set up tables for each
type of name (I think). The right way is to set some kind of field in the
table that tells you what kind of person it is (the contact, etc).

 

If you add a field to tbl_PermitNames (PermitNamesID, PermitName,) & Type? 

 

When you add a combo box on the form for entering/selecting the name, how
does it know what type to add it to?

 

As you can see I am so lost on this.

 

Virginia

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Apr 27 14:43:04 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:43:04 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c9205042711314173ed93@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F352872A0EEBC7C512C1497D2220@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

I saw a few good examples of this a few years back.

One was from Candace Tripp:  http://home.earthlink.net/~ctripp1

...and the other from Ryan Shaw:  rnshaw at visi.com or rnshaw at integramn.net

I have samples of both if anyone wants...just request offlist.

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
>Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:31:56 -0400
>
>On 4/27/05, Mcgillivray, Don [ITS] <donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com> 
>wrote:
>
> > I experimented with something similar, but I used transparent command
> > buttons over labels.  This allows you to use all the capabilities of
> > command buttons without being limited by their fixed visual style.  The
> > result of my experiment was pretty cool, but it was kinda flickery, so I
> > didn't actually use it for anything.
>
>I did something similar. I used picture boxes, labels and command
>buttons to produce an "outlook" bar style sidebar for an app.
>
>If anyone want to see it, let me know off-line (carbonnb at gmail.com)
>and I'll strip the app to a bare minimum sample.
>
>--
>Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
>Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
>preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
>shouting "What a great ride!"
>--
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Wed Apr 27 14:51:26 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:51:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE20@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

Yes, clear as mud...
 
I don't necessarily want/need a type. I was wondering if that is
something you have to add to a table of names to make it work.
 
I couldn't see adding a table for each type of name (Issued by, Contact,
etc) since the names will be repeated in each table.
 
Should there be only one table listing the names? If so when you create
a report, how do you distinguish between the names? If I put all the
names in one table (tbl_PermitNames) and then put ContactID, IssuedID in
the main table. When you add a name to the Contact field on the form it
puts it in the tbl_Main as a number. When I create a report & add all
the name fields it will use only one table for the names
(tbl_PermitName) how would it know which field is the Contact, etc?
 
Probably getting worse on my explaination. How do you set up a table of
different roles for a person for multiple fields?
 
***************
 
If I understand your question, you want to have a TypeID in the one
table
(Maintbl).  In another table you would have the types with a TypeID as
the
primary key.
 
You would set the record source to "SELECT TypeID,Type FROM Types;".
The
combo box would be bound to the TypeID field in the Maintbl table.
 
So, is that clear as mud now?
 
Bobby

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 27 14:56:07 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:56:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A01C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20050427195607.IEKJ1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

This would mean extra work, but if you think the users will make mistakes
you could always let them enter regular time, mark it as am or pm and
convert it internally to military time. 

Susan H. 

However, you can use the Short Time format, which is 17:00.  Then all you
need do on a form is use "00:00" for the format string.  Access short time
won't let you enter 2400, which has to be converted to 0000 hours in the
form.



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Apr 27 14:56:07 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:56:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE1C@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050427195619.IEOA1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Virginia, I could be wrong, so take this with a grain of salt -- but it
sounds like Contact, IssuedTo, IssuedBy, ClosedBy, ReleasedBy are categories
that describe each person. Before we go any further, would a "name" entity
have more than one category? 

Susan H.  

I never could get this right, so hopefully someone can explain it to me so I
can understand how to set up a table of names.




From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Apr 27 15:29:04 2005
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:29:04 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D48E@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F18BE4FA63DAFD181CE9F64D2220@phx.gbl>

Brett,

Thanks for the shortcut...I was able to get to the link from home.

What I'm actually searching for is a way to use the 'uncompress or extract' 
feature that is part of Windows XP.  I found the 'expand' command line...but 
it only seems to work for .cab files, not .zip.  Unless I got the syntax 
wrong...it only copies the .zip files.

I've searched the web and found the same question asked over and over 
again...but no answers.

Any ideas of a command line or api or something to utilize this 'unzip' 
function built into Windows XP without any additional software?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:07:30 -0500
>
>I just clicked on the link and it worked for me.
>
>I recall our old corporate firewall would block or mangle this site,
>particularily when browsing with IE.  But then I upgraded to Firefox.
>BIG improvement.  No looking back!
>
>Here's a Google cache of the page I mentioned:
>http://tinyurl.com/b9jho
>
>Let me know if you need the source files.  I can send them to you
>offline.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>I've had a few people suggest this site... but I can't hit the site.  I
>even tried the main page http://www.vbaccelerator.com, Has the site
>moved?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
>
>
> >From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
> >
> >I've played around with the vbAccelerator project:
> >http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp
> >
> >It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely
> >distributable.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >
> >Hello All,
> >
> >The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm not
> >worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP Pro...and it
> >allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any way to call
> >this function from Access/vba/api or something?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark
> >
> > >From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
> > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> > >solving<ac
>essd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
> > >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
> > >
> > >If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out
> > >to WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.
> > >
> > >Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have
> > >not
> >
> > >used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
> > >
> > >Bobby
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A
> > >Matte
> > >Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
> > >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > >Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >
> > >
> > >Hello All,
> > >
> > >Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm
> > >receiving
> > >
> > >a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import
> > >automatically.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
>
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Apr 27 15:32:56 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:32:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
In-Reply-To: <28113831.1114626986933.JavaMail.root@sniper23>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAHbGnLsmTfEGHq3F2O9aD5AEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Virginia,

If you have a startup form then you can set options programmatically as the
application opens on each client PC.

Use the keyword SetOption in code.  Look for the SetOption help page.  From
that page click on the Set Options from Visual Basic link.  That will give
you the correct syntax for each option.  And there's a bunch of 'em!

HTH,

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

One more question.... Isn't setting the Tools, Options, etc specific to
each PC (Access settings)? So when someone else opens the form it will
look like it did with the sick light colors.

 

Is there something you can set on startup to change the setting to not
show the windows themed control on forms?

 

We have XP & Office 2003.

 

Virginia

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Apr 27 15:32:53 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:32:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
References: <s26ff246.080@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <426FF6F5.6010703@shaw.ca>

Don't forget you must round to the precision needed in the intermediate
calculations to avoid bias or roundoff errors, regardless of the precision
of the variables used or compiler.
After doing one billion additions of .01 or say 1 cent
The difference in calculated values can be seen when you apply the
intermediate rounding function.
Applying this method will keep demented accountants out of your hair.

Final Total unrounded decimal     accurate  intermediate rounded total
 9999999.82515867                               10000000

 Sub CalcSum()
  'this may take several minutes to run
  ' add 1 cent 1 billion times and apply rounding
                        Dim i As Long
                        Dim iMax   As Long
                        Dim fSum  As Double
                        Dim fSuma  As Double
                        Dim fPenny As Double
                        i = 0
                        fPenny = 0.01
                        iMax = 1000000000
                        fSum = 0#
                        fSuma = 0#
                        For i = 0 To iMax - 1

                           fSum = fSum + fPenny
                           fSuma = fSuma + fPenny
                           'intermediate round to 2 decimal point precision
                           fSuma = Round(fSuma, 2)
                        Next i
Debug.Print fSum; fSuma
 End Sub


Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Charlotte
>
>It fails all right, but not you have to go beyond 16 mio.:
>
>Public Sub TestSingle()
>
>  Dim sng As Single
>  Dim lng As Long
>  
>  For lng = 0 To 100000000
>    If lng <> sng Then Exit For
>    sng = sng + 1
>  Next
>  Debug.Print lng, sng
>
>End Sub
>
>It runs to:
> 16777217      1.677722E+07 
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>cfoust at infostatsystems.com 04/27 7:17 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>I've seen it with addition as well.  You can build a test in code and
>loop multiple times adding 1 to the integer of a floating point and
>testing the mod to see if there is a remainder.  Believe me, it will
>occur.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:37 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
>
>
>Hi Reuben
>
>Charlotte a guy? You better be careful!
>
>You mostly see this with subtraction (which includes addition of
>negative values); I've never seen it with addition of positives.
>
>If you can't change the source data type be sure to wrap the values in
>CCur(). If you need more than the four decimals of Currency you may
>choose Double but round the results whenever possible.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 6:26 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never
>considered
>it would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after all the work
>I
>did on payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Reuben Cummings
>GFC, LLC
>phone: 812.523.1017
>email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
>
>
>Hi Reuben
>
>He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
>using
>data type Single for that. Change to data type Currency ...
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>A client came across this for me...
>
>One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
>After
>gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with a sum
>to
>get the total hours.
>
>Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
>6.00000023841858
>
>Why the strange decimals?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Reuben Cummings
>GFC, LLC
>phone: 812.523.1017
>email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 
>
>  
>

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Canada





From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Wed Apr 27 15:54:37 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:54:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D64C@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

If I may be so bold...

Automatically changing another user's global settings to suit your
application's needs is considered by many (like myself) to be very
intrusive, and generally a poor practice.

However, there are valid reasons for needing to do this (I think you may
have touched upon one).  In this case, I would strongly suggest keeping
track of the user's original settings when your app launches and
restoring them when it closes.

Otherwise, be prepared for the confused users asking you why their other
Access apps look "different" since they ran yours.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

Virginia,

If you have a startup form then you can set options programmatically as
the application opens on each client PC.

Use the keyword SetOption in code.  Look for the SetOption help page.
>From that page click on the Set Options from Visual Basic link.  That
will give you the correct syntax for each option.  And there's a bunch
of 'em!

HTH,

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

One more question.... Isn't setting the Tools, Options, etc specific to
each PC (Access settings)? So when someone else opens the form it will
look like it did with the sick light colors.

 

Is there something you can set on startup to change the setting to not
show the windows themed control on forms?

 

We have XP & Office 2003.

 

Virginia

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 27 16:03:43 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:03:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739C0@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Use labels.  You can put an invisible button on top of them to get the
focus and handle the clicks.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:44 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons


I am whipping up a new program and I wanted to try something new for the
interface on the menus. I've had this "look" in my head, and I figured
I'd try it out on this program...the program seems pretty small and
easy, so it would be a good time to spend the extra time on some new
interface ideas.

Anyhow, I usually use command buttons, and I change the text color as I
mouse over them, or when the gain focus via the keyboard. I wanted to
try something slightly different and am experimenting with labels and
text boxes. Labels quickly proved unworthy of the task, because they
can't get focus...unless I am missing something here...so I have focused
my energy on developing text box buttons. I have them pretty close to
completion, and I like them, except they highlight the text and/or put a
cursor in them. Is there any way to not highlight the text inside and to
not get a cursor in the text box, even when it is clicked?

Thanks 

John W Clark
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Wed Apr 27 16:05:03 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:05:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D650@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

I'm pretty sure MS doesn't extend zip support via API calls.  The expand
utility has been around for a long time (at least Win95) specifically to
assist installation of files stored in cabs.  You might find a freeware
app that allows command line unzip functionality, though.

I wrote a simple VB app a while back to manage our 20 GB SQL Server
backups.  It was run automatically each night to shell out to the WinZip
command line to automatically compress new backup files to an archive
folder and delete old archive files.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:29 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files

Brett,

Thanks for the shortcut...I was able to get to the link from home.

What I'm actually searching for is a way to use the 'uncompress or
extract' 
feature that is part of Windows XP.  I found the 'expand' command
line...but it only seems to work for .cab files, not .zip.  Unless I got
the syntax wrong...it only copies the .zip files.

I've searched the web and found the same question asked over and over
again...but no answers.

Any ideas of a command line or api or something to utilize this 'unzip' 
function built into Windows XP without any additional software?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:07:30 -0500
>
>I just clicked on the link and it worked for me.
>
>I recall our old corporate firewall would block or mangle this site, 
>particularily when browsing with IE.  But then I upgraded to Firefox.
>BIG improvement.  No looking back!
>
>Here's a Google cache of the page I mentioned:
>http://tinyurl.com/b9
.  I can send them to you 
>offline.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>I've had a few people suggest this site... but I can't hit the site.  I

>even tried the main page http://www.vbaccelerator.com, Has the site 
>moved?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
>
>
> >From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
> >solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
> >
> >I've played around with the vbAccelerator project:
> >http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp
> >
> >It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely 
> >distributable.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A 
> >Matte
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >
> >Hello All,
> >
> >The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm 
> >not worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP 
> >Pro...and it allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any 
> >way to call this function from Access/vba/api or something?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark
> >
> > >From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
> > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving<ac
>essd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
> > >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
> > >
> > >If you do not want to use a
the command line interface to WinZip.
> > >
> > >Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have

> > >not
> >
> > >used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
> > >
> > >Bobby
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A 
> > >Matte
> > >Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
> > >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > >Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >
> > >
> > >Hello All,
> > >
> > >Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm 
> > >receiving
> > >
> > >a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import 
> > >automatically.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >

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From max at sherman.org.uk  Wed Apr 27 17:00:15 2005
From: max at sherman.org.uk (accessd)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:00:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Military Time
In-Reply-To: <20050427195607.IEKJ1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050427220001.TRAV5678.aamta06-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@server>

Or, going to perhaps as an extreme, two rotating selection boxes (up/down
arrows) to circulate hours (from 00 to 23) and a second for mins (from 00 to
59).  Wouldn't go there myself, but perhaps an option under some
circumstances.  At least it would be absolutely accurate especially if
populated from the System Time for 'Time now/Time future' entries whereby an
'Enter/Click' would accept the defaults as presented.
Max Sherman
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: 27 April 2005 20:56
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Military Time

This would mean extra work, but if you think the users will make mistakes
you could always let them enter regular time, mark it as am or pm and
convert it internally to military time. 

Susan H. 

However, you can use the Short Time format, which is 17:00.  Then all you
need do on a form is use "00:00" for the format string.  Access short time
won't let you enter 2400, which has to be converted to 0000 hours in the
form.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 27 17:09:52 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:09:52 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D650@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <42709A50.32232.C6AECB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Apr 2005 at 16:05, Brett Barabash wrote:

> I'm pretty sure MS doesn't extend zip support via API calls.  The expand
> utility has been around for a long time (at least Win95) specifically to
> assist installation of files stored in cabs.  You might find a freeware
> app that allows command line unzip functionality, though.
> 
> I wrote a simple VB app a while back to manage our 20 GB SQL Server
> backups.  It was run automatically each night to shell out to the WinZip
> command line to automatically compress new backup files to an archive
> folder and delete old archive files.
> 
> 

XP uses zipfld.dll and Wzipfldr.dll for these functions. MS do not appear 
to have not released an API for these libraries. (Googling either of these 
names with "API" doesn't return a single hit)
-- 
Stuart




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Apr 27 17:12:36 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:12:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739C1@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Doesn't JavaScript expose it?  I know I used the jscript library in dot
net to get at zip/unzip functionality.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Barabash [mailto:BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:05 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


I'm pretty sure MS doesn't extend zip support via API calls.  The expand
utility has been around for a long time (at least Win95) specifically to
assist installation of files stored in cabs.  You might find a freeware
app that allows command line unzip functionality, though.

I wrote a simple VB app a while back to manage our 20 GB SQL Server
backups.  It was run automatically each night to shell out to the WinZip
command line to automatically compress new backup files to an archive
folder and delete old archive files.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:29 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files

Brett,

Thanks for the shortcut...I was able to get to the link from home.

What I'm actually searching for is a way to use the 'uncompress or
extract' 
feature that is part of Windows XP.  I found the 'expand' command
line...but it only seems to work for .cab files, not .zip.  Unless I got
the syntax wrong...it only copies the .zip files.

I've searched the web and found the same question asked over and over
again...but no answers.

Any ideas of a command line or api or something to utilize this 'unzip' 
function built into Windows XP without any additional software?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:07:30 -0500
>
>I just clicked on the link and it worked for me.
>
>I recall our old corporate firewall would block or mangle this site,
>particularily when browsing with IE.  But then I upgraded to Firefox.
>BIG improvement.  No looking back!
>
>Here's a Google cache of the page I mentioned: http://tinyurl.com/b9
.  I can send them to you 
>offline.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>I've had a few people suggest this site... but I can't hit the site.  I

>even tried the main page http://www.vbaccelerator.com, Has the site
>moved?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
>
>
> >From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
> >solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
> >
> >I've played around with the vbAccelerator project: 
> >http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp
> >
> >It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely
> >distributable.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A
> >Matte
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >
> >Hello All,
> >
> >The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm
> >not worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP 
> >Pro...and it allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any 
> >way to call this function from Access/vba/api or something?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark
> >
> > >From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
> > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving<ac
>essd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
> > >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
> > >
> > >If you do not want to use a
the command line interface to WinZip.
> > >
> > >Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have

> > >not
> >
> > >used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
> > >
> > >Bobby
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A
> > >Matte
> > >Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
> > >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > >Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >
> > >
> > >Hello All,
> > >
> > >Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm
> > >receiving
> > >
> > >a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import
> > >automatically.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 27 17:16:19 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:16:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE20@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <42709BD3.4560.CC9673@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Apr 2005 at 15:51, Hollis,Virginia wrote:

> Should there be only one table listing the names? If so when you create
> a report, how do you distinguish between the names? If I put all the
> names in one table (tbl_PermitNames) and then put ContactID, IssuedID in
> the main table. When you add a name to the Contact field on the form it
> puts it in the tbl_Main as a number. When I create a report & add all
> the name fields it will use only one table for the names
> (tbl_PermitName) how would it know which field is the Contact, etc?
>  

When you create a query for a report, you need to include the names table 
multiple times, one for each category and link each category to a different 
instance of the table.  

If you do it in the Query Designer, Access will automatically create an 
alais for each instance of the table consisting of the table name plus a 
numeric suffix.

So you would have links
ContactID ---- tblNames.ID
IssuedID -------tblNames_1.ID
ReturnedID --------tblNames_2.ID etc


-- 
Stuart




From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Wed Apr 27 17:18:14 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:18:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3E3@main2.marlow.com>

Sorry for the delay.....but I've been a little swamped during this thread.
Ironically, I am rebuilding an application that 'auto' extracts files from
zips.  It's probably more complex then what you are looking for though. 

I host a realty website (remax realtors).  It has a ton of properties, which
are updated regularly.  The updates are posted to an FTP site, and are
zipped.  The zip files contain both delimited text files with the property
information, and .jpg files with images for the property.

My original application used the INet control in VB, to download the files
to a directory.  Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line that
unzipped all of the files to that folder.  That was actually pretty easy to
do. The REAL fun part was then to extract all of the information from the
unzipped text files, update the database, and then sort all the pictures
(and create thumbnails for them).  The only trick on the first part was the
unzipping.  I found and Add-on for WinZip, which works perfectly, but the
only catch is that you have to have a registered version of WinZip for it to
truly work automated.  If it's not registered, the command line prompts you
for things...which is a little quirky for an 'automated' system.  So I
splurged on the $29 to register WinZip.  It was money well spent.  The
command line works wonderfully, and better yet, the registered version of
WinZip has a lot of neat features to use.

The reason I am rebuilding this application, is because I spent the last few
weeks rebuilding my home network.  Now that I have everything setup at home
(almost), I want to improve this process.  It's downloading about 1.5 gigs
worth of zip files, which even over my 3 megabit connection, takes a while.
Then it unzips them (which can take just as long, or longer), then it runs
the 'update' process.  During the download, doing anything on my own crawls
to dialup speed sometimes.  During the rest, that server is pretty tied up.
I decided to change the download/unzip process, and also modify the update
process, so that my customers will be able to track what has been updated.
In the download/unzip phase, I was using the INet control, which is quirky,
and the way I had it setup, I knew what file was downloading, but not how
big it was, or how fast it was downloading, and I couldn't pause it, only
kill the whole process.  So the new process (which I have the dl/unzip phase
done, working on the new update process) downloads everything using API
calls, and not only shows the file size, but how much has been downloaded
and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because the
FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....).  So now, if I
want to use the net at high speeds, when this thing is running, I can just
go to the server, and pause the process.  I also made a modification to the
zip process.  Instead of one big unzip '*.zip' command line, I have the VB
program start a new thread, and that thread starts runs the unzip process
for one zip file.  Works like a charm.  (It's all event driven too, so when
the last zip thread is done, it raises an event the main process can use to
launch the update process).

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:29 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Brett,

Thanks for the shortcut...I was able to get to the link from home.

What I'm actually searching for is a way to use the 'uncompress or extract' 
feature that is part of Windows XP.  I found the 'expand' command line...but

it only seems to work for .cab files, not .zip.  Unless I got the syntax 
wrong...it only copies the .zip files.

I've searched the web and found the same question asked over and over 
again...but no answers.

Any ideas of a command line or api or something to utilize this 'unzip' 
function built into Windows XP without any additional software?

Thanks,

Mark A. Matte

>From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
>Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem 
>solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:07:30 -0500
>
>I just clicked on the link and it worked for me.
>
>I recall our old corporate firewall would block or mangle this site,
>particularily when browsing with IE.  But then I upgraded to Firefox.
>BIG improvement.  No looking back!
>
>Here's a Google cache of the page I mentioned:
>http://tinyurl.com/b9jho
>
>Let me know if you need the source files.  I can send them to you
>offline.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:43 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>I've had a few people suggest this site... but I can't hit the site.  I
>even tried the main page http://www.vbaccelerator.com, Has the site
>moved?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
>
>
>
> >From: "Brett Barabash" <BBarabash at tappeconstruction.com>
> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> >solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:38:10 -0500
> >
> >I've played around with the vbAccelerator project:
> >http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/VB/Utilities/VBPZip/article.asp
> >
> >It requires a few external libraries, which AFAIK are all freely
> >distributable.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:16 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> >
> >Hello All,
> >
> >The app I'm working on is personal...not for distribution...so I'm not
> >worried about using on a different machine.  The OS is XP Pro...and it
> >allows me to unzip/decompress .zip files...is there any way to call
> >this function from Access/vba/api or something?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mark
> >
> > >From: "Bobby Heid" <bheid at appdevgrp.com>
> > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> > >solving<ac
>essd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
> > >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:36:38 -0400
> > >
> > >If you do not want to use any libraries, I would probably shell out
> > >to WinZip using the command line interface to WinZip.
> > >
> > >Otherwise, there are several free/paid libraries out there.  I have
> > >not
> >
> > >used any of these libraries, so I cannot comment on them.
> > >
> > >Bobby
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A
> > >Matte
> > >Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 1:22 PM
> > >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > >Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
> > >
> > >
> > >Hello All,
> > >
> > >Any suggested on easiest/best way to have Access Unzip files?  I'm
> > >receiving
> > >
> > >a number of files that I want the db to find,unzip, and import
> > >automatically.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 27 17:27:15 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:27:15 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3E3@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <42709E63.8824.D698F3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Apr 2005 at 17:18, DWUTKA at marlow.com wrote:

> and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because the
> FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....). 

Just throw an occasional NOOP at the server :-)


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From Robert at servicexp.com  Wed Apr 27 17:59:17 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:59:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm
	inabind.
Message-ID: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4E78@gbsserver.GBS.local>

It's works very good so far. I have passed over 2 millions dollars across the code in the last 6 months with very little problems.

Robert  

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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:16 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm inabind.

Good luck with that.  I gave up trying to get their QB-ODBC to work correctly.

Keith E. Williamson
Ashland Equipment, Inc
phone # (410) 273-1856
fax #     (410) 273-1859


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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Does anyone have decent Quickbooks chops? I'm in abind.


Here's the deal.? One of my projects requires Invoice and InvoiceLine data to be pulled out of a SQL Server database and pushed into Quickbooks.? The client wants?it seamless, so I've been reading up on QBFC and QBXML to make it happen.

A month later, I am nowhere.? I even joined the Intuit Developer Network, and I'm finding the documentation to be useless, the developer forums to be useless, and the lightly-commented sample code to be a game of "guess the object model", with numerous things in the sample code that are not in the SDK documentation.

I need help.? And I can't seem to find anyone who has done this before.

Does anyone here have decent chops with QBFC or QBXML?? 

-Christopher-
 
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Apr 27 18:39:23 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:39:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
In-Reply-To: <2949157.1114637225877.JavaMail.root@sniper18>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAtfHOxPn9iEGApAPvF6xlRgEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

If I may respond...

I agree with Brett, if your apps are working in an environment where your
users are going to be aware of what's happening and be concerned about it. 

If not - the options are all yours!


Dan Waters


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Brett Barabash
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

If I may be so bold...

Automatically changing another user's global settings to suit your
application's needs is considered by many (like myself) to be very
intrusive, and generally a poor practice.

However, there are valid reasons for needing to do this (I think you may
have touched upon one).  In this case, I would strongly suggest keeping
track of the user's original settings when your app launches and
restoring them when it closes.

Otherwise, be prepared for the confused users asking you why their other
Access apps look "different" since they ran yours.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:33 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

Virginia,

If you have a startup form then you can set options programmatically as
the application opens on each client PC.

Use the keyword SetOption in code.  Look for the SetOption help page.
>From that page click on the Set Options from Visual Basic link.  That
will give you the correct syntax for each option.  And there's a bunch
of 'em!

HTH,

Dan Waters


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

One more question.... Isn't setting the Tools, Options, etc specific to
each PC (Access settings)? So when someone else opens the form it will
look like it did with the sick light colors.

 

Is there something you can set on startup to change the setting to not
show the windows themed control on forms?

 

We have XP & Office 2003.

 

Virginia

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From ldoering at symphonyinfo.com  Wed Apr 27 20:18:30 2005
From: ldoering at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:18:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082645@dewey.Symphony.local>

Annie,

I have found that FileMaker Pro can export to .xls or .dbf, but it isn't
itself a format that Access can link to.  So your import will have to be
a two step process, one an export from within FileMaker Pro, then a
separate import into Access.  Your best hope will be to get some
familiarity with FileMaker Pro:  they have a 30-day free trial at
https://www.filemaker.com/downloads/trial_download.html

Good luck!  

Liz



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accma at sympatico.ca
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:16 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access

Hi group,

For a customer, I have a database in A97 with security that does not
allow someone to simply open A97 and this database without using the mdw
file.

This customer ask met if it's possible to import and export data from
another database which is in "file maker pro".

I'm not familiar with file maker pro.  Would that be possible?

Thanks!

Annie

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Apr 27 20:55:20 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:55:20 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access
In-Reply-To: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082645@dewey.Symphony.local>
Message-ID: <4270CF28.12820.1951A2D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 27 Apr 2005 at 20:18, Liz Doering wrote:

> Annie,
> 
> I have found that FileMaker Pro can export to .xls or .dbf, but it isn't
> itself a format that Access can link to.  So your import will have to be
> a two step process, one an export from within FileMaker Pro, then a
> separate import into Access.  Your best hope will be to get some
> familiarity with FileMaker Pro:  they have a 30-day free trial at
> https://www.filemaker.com/downloads/trial_download.html
> 


Filemaker Pro claims to allow you to access it's data from other 
applications using ODBC, but there is very little detail on their website.
I suspect the ODBC driver comes as part of their Development Package.

You could also try the Fielmaker Pro ODBC driver at 
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/1602


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 28 03:35:33 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:35:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <s270bc8d.083@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

That's right, but Charlotte mentioned adding 1 not 0.01.

However, if anyone at this point still are confident using Double (or <
gosh> Single) for decimals, I modified your test.
This is scary. Notes follow the function:

Sub CalcSum()
  
  ' This will take a fraction of a second to run.
  ' Add 1 cent up to 1 billion times and apply rounding.
  ' Exit at first encountered error.
  
  Dim i As Long
  Dim iMax   As Long
  Dim fSum  As Double
  Dim fSuma  As Double
  Dim fPenny As Double
  i = 0
  fPenny = 0.01
  iMax = 1000000000
  fSum = 0#
  fSuma = 0#
  For i = 0 To iMax - 1
    fSum = fSum + fPenny
    fSuma = fSuma + fPenny
    'intermediate round to 2 decimal point precision
    fSuma = Round(fSuma, 2)
    ' Exit if an error has occurred.
    If fSum <> fSuma Then Exit For
  Next i
  
  Debug.Print fSum; fSuma, fSum - fSuma

End Sub

Now, take your guess - how many loops will run? Ten thousand? 
You'll be in for a surprise!

Note that even though fSum and fSuma display the same result, they
don't compare.
You have to do the fSum - fSuma subtraction to have the error
displayed.

/gustav

>>> martyconnelly at shaw.ca 04/27 10:32 pm >>>
Don't forget you must round to the precision needed in the
intermediate
calculations to avoid bias or roundoff errors, regardless of the
precision
of the variables used or compiler.
After doing one billion additions of .01 or say 1 cent
The difference in calculated values can be seen when you apply the
intermediate rounding function.
Applying this method will keep demented accountants out of your hair.

Final Total unrounded decimal     accurate  intermediate rounded total
 9999999.82515867                               10000000

 Sub CalcSum()
  'this may take several minutes to run
  ' add 1 cent 1 billion times and apply rounding
                        Dim i As Long
                        Dim iMax   As Long
                        Dim fSum  As Double
                        Dim fSuma  As Double
                        Dim fPenny As Double
                        i = 0
                        fPenny = 0.01
                        iMax = 1000000000
                        fSum = 0#
                        fSuma = 0#
                        For i = 0 To iMax - 1

                           fSum = fSum + fPenny
                           fSuma = fSuma + fPenny
                           'intermediate round to 2 decimal point
precision
                           fSuma = Round(fSuma, 2)
                        Next i
Debug.Print fSum; fSuma
 End Sub


Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Charlotte
>
>It fails all right, but not you have to go beyond 16 mio.:
>
>Public Sub TestSingle()
>
>  Dim sng As Single
>  Dim lng As Long
>  
>  For lng = 0 To 100000000
>    If lng <> sng Then Exit For
>    sng = sng + 1
>  Next
>  Debug.Print lng, sng
>
>End Sub
>
>It runs to:
> 16777217      1.677722E+07 
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>cfoust at infostatsystems.com 04/27 7:17 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>I've seen it with addition as well.  You can build a test in code and
>loop multiple times adding 1 to the integer of a floating point and
>testing the mod to see if there is a remainder.  Believe me, it will
>occur.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:37 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
>
>
>Hi Reuben
>
>Charlotte a guy? You better be careful!
>
>You mostly see this with subtraction (which includes addition of
>negative values); I've never seen it with addition of positives.
>
>If you can't change the source data type be sure to wrap the values
in
>CCur(). If you need more than the four decimals of Currency you may
>choose Double but round the results whenever possible.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 6:26 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never
>considered it would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after
all the work
>I did on payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Reuben Cummings
>GFC, LLC
>phone: 812.523.1017
>email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
>
>
>Hi Reuben
>
>He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
>using
>data type Single for that. Change to data type Currency ...
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>A client came across this for me...
>
>One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
>After gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with
a sum
>to get the total hours.
>
>Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
>6.00000023841858
>
>Why the strange decimals?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Reuben Cummings
>GFC, LLC
>phone: 812.523.1017
>email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr 28 06:40:51 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:40:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE29@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

Yes, the name of a person can fit into any or all categories. The
Contact, Closedby, ReleasedBy, etc call all be the same person.
 
************
Virginia, I could be wrong, so take this with a grain of salt -- but it
sounds like Contact, IssuedTo, IssuedBy, ClosedBy, ReleasedBy are
categories
that describe each person. Before we go any further, would a "name"
entity
have more than one category? 
 

Susan H.



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr 28 06:45:19 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:45:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE2A@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

 
That makes sense. I will make sure I turn it back on when they close the
dB. Most users probably wouldn't notice at all, few other databases
around (in Access anyway). But setting it back is a good idea. Thanks.
 
Virginia
 
***************
If I may respond...
 
I agree with Brett, if your apps are working in an environment where
your
users are going to be aware of what's happening and be concerned about
it. 
 
If not - the options are all yours!
 
 
Dan Waters
 
 
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<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> ] On Behalf Of
Brett Barabash
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
 
If I may be so bold...
 
Automatically changing another user's global settings to suit your
application's needs is considered by many (like myself) to be very
intrusive, and generally a poor practice.
 
However, there are valid reasons for needing to do this (I think you may
have touched upon one).  In this case, I would strongly suggest keeping
track of the user's original settings when your app launches and
restoring them when it closes.
 
Otherwise, be prepared for the confused users asking you why their other
Access apps look "different" since they ran yours.
 

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 28 06:47:55 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:47:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] :) 
Message-ID: <20050428114755.DBRR2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-10585_11-5671055.html?tag=nl.e101
 
 


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 28 06:56:07 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:56:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE29@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050428115607.DHHM2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Each "type" would be an individual record then. Sounds like you have a many
to many relationship between your name table and your type table. 

Name
1	Doe	John
2	Smith	Mary

Type	
1	Contact
2	IssuedTo	
3	IssuedBy
4	ClosedBy

NameTypemm
1	1	1
2	1	3
3	2	1
4	2	4

This all means that John Doe has a Contact and an IssuedBy type; Mary Smith
is a Contact and a ClosedBy type. The associate table, NameTypemm contains a
foreigh key to both tables. Technically, the associate key doesn't need a
separate primary key as I've shown -- you could use the combined foreign
keys as a primary key. The second column in NameTypemm is the Name foreign
key. The third column is the Type foreign key. 

Is this helping?

Susan H. 

Susan H. 

Yes, the name of a person can fit into any or all categories. The Contact,
Closedby, ReleasedBy, etc call all be the same person.
 
************
Virginia, I could be wrong, so take this with a grain of salt -- but it
sounds like Contact, IssuedTo, IssuedBy, ClosedBy, ReleasedBy are categories
that describe each person. Before we go any further, would a "name"
entity
have more than one category? 
 

Susan H.

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Apr 28 07:06:13 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:06:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B8E54B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA82@ADGSERVER>

Ok, I think I understand your issue now.  Sorry that my first try was so far
off.  I did something similar with an address book thingy for this
application.  A given entry could be primary contact on one item, payroll
contact on another, etc.  So that I did not have to duplicate the people
data, I used an intermediate table to store links to the people data.

There is a table of contact information for each person.  There is another
table that contains the ID of the record that will be associated with the
person.  This other table also contains the ID of the person in the people
data table,

An example:

Table Main
MainID   Contact    ClosedBy     ReleasedBy
3	     43           49           49


Intermediate table
IMID    MainID   PersonID
 43       3         754
 49       3         29

People Table
PersonID	FirstName	LastName
 754 		Joe		Schmoe
 29		Suzy		Chapstick

So you would store the IMID into the Main table for the various contacts.
The intermediate table would contain a link to the Main table and the People
table.  The People table just contains information on the individual people.

So to get the Contact person, you would link the ContactID to the
Intermediate table IMID and then link the PersonID in the Intermediate table
to the PersonID in the People table.

In this way, you are not duplicating the People data.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:41 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names


Yes, the name of a person can fit into any or all categories. The Contact,
Closedby, ReleasedBy, etc call all be the same person.
 
************
Virginia, I could be wrong, so take this with a grain of salt -- but it
sounds like Contact, IssuedTo, IssuedBy, ClosedBy, ReleasedBy are categories
that describe each person. Before we go any further, would a "name" entity
have more than one category? 
 

Susan H.




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 28 07:10:20 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:10:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <s270eed3.092@cactus.dk>

Hi Virginia

Like Brett I will warn you too to proceed with this. Changing the
display settings for pure cosmetic reasons is very serious, it may not
be possible at all (due to lack of user rights), some users will be
ready to kill you for delivering such an amateur "I own it all and to
He.. with your settings"-app, and you will not be able to reset the
settings if the user has made changes not saved in a theme.

Now don't say you haven't been warned ...

/gustav

>>> HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com 04/28 1:45 pm >>>
 
That makes sense. I will make sure I turn it back on when they close
the
dB. Most users probably wouldn't notice at all, few other databases
around (in Access anyway). But setting it back is a good idea. Thanks.
 
Virginia
 
***************
If I may respond...
 
I agree with Brett, if your apps are working in an environment where
your users are going to be aware of what's happening and be concerned
about
it. 
 
If not - the options are all yours!
 
Dan Waters
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> ] On Behalf Of
Brett Barabash
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
 
If I may be so bold...
 
Automatically changing another user's global settings to suit your
application's needs is considered by many (like myself) to be very
intrusive, and generally a poor practice.
 
However, there are valid reasons for needing to do this (I think you
may
have touched upon one).  In this case, I would strongly suggest
keeping
track of the user's original settings when your app launches and
restoring them when it closes.
 
Otherwise, be prepared for the confused users asking you why their
other
Access apps look "different" since they ran yours.



From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Apr 28 07:21:16 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:21:16 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] lock data
Message-ID: <003501c54bec$c79234e0$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hello Group,

i have a form that is using a table to store its data of stone prices. When the prices in the table changes, the data on the form also changes. 

I would like that the prices can not change, after it is places on the form the first time, when the record is opened.

TIA

Pedro Janssen


From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Thu Apr 28 07:26:20 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:26:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE30@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

This is what I did in the query, is this correct?

SELECT tbl_Type.NameType, tbl_PermitNames.PermitNames

FROM tbl_PermitNames INNER JOIN ((tbl_NameType INNER JOIN tbl_Permit ON
tbl_NameType.NameTypeID = tbl_Permit.ContactID) INNER JOIN tbl_Type ON
tbl_NameType.TypeID = tbl_Type.TypeID) ON tbl_PermitNames.PermitNamesID
= tbl_NameType.NameTypeID;

 

If the tables are set up correctly (as above), when I add a combo box on
the form what do I put in the source to have it add the data for the
field into the tables? If I want to select a Contact person, how does it
add the data to the tables? What about adding a new contact to the list?

 

Virginia

 

Ok, I think I understand your issue now.  Sorry that my first try was so
far
off.  I did something similar with an address book thingy for this
application.  A given entry could be primary contact on one item,
payroll
contact on another, etc.  So that I did not have to duplicate the people
data, I used an intermediate table to store links to the people data.
 
There is a table of contact information for each person.  There is
another
table that contains the ID of the record that will be associated with
the
person.  This other table also contains the ID of the person in the
people
data table,
 
An example:
 
Table Main
MainID   Contact    ClosedBy     ReleasedBy
3            43           49           49
 
 
Intermediate table
IMID    MainID   PersonID
 43       3         754
 49       3         29
 
People Table
PersonID       FirstName      LastName
 754           Joe            Schmoe
 29            Suzy           Chapstick
 
So you would store the IMID into the Main table for the various
contacts.
The intermediate table would contain a link to the Main table and the
People
table.  The People table just contains information on the individual
people.
 
So to get the Contact person, you would link the ContactID to the
Intermediate table IMID and then link the PersonID in the Intermediate
table
to the PersonID in the People table.
 
In this way, you are not duplicating the People data.
 
Bobby

 



From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Thu Apr 28 07:28:15 2005
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:28:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CBC1@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi

Sorry to barge in on a thread, but I'm with Gustav.  The very first VB
project I took responsibility for at the start of my career forced the user
into 640x480 (few years ago now).  Unfortunately, I had to do phone support
for said project and a lot of the calls were from users wondering what was
going on.

The other thing to consider is that the API's necessary to do this are
fairly dirty and will in a few cases screw something up along the line, or
hide desktop icons off the screen.  Particularly if the user has other apps
open when they start yours.

Cheers
Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: 28-Apr-2005 13:10
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control

Hi Virginia

Like Brett I will warn you too to proceed with this. Changing the
display settings for pure cosmetic reasons is very serious, it may not
be possible at all (due to lack of user rights), some users will be
ready to kill you for delivering such an amateur "I own it all and to
He.. with your settings"-app, and you will not be able to reset the
settings if the user has made changes not saved in a theme.

Now don't say you haven't been warned ...

/gustav

>>> HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com 04/28 1:45 pm >>>
 
That makes sense. I will make sure I turn it back on when they close
the
dB. Most users probably wouldn't notice at all, few other databases
around (in Access anyway). But setting it back is a good idea. Thanks.
 
Virginia
 
***************
If I may respond...
 
I agree with Brett, if your apps are working in an environment where
your users are going to be aware of what's happening and be concerned
about
it. 
 
If not - the options are all yours!
 
Dan Waters
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
<http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> ] On Behalf Of
Brett Barabash
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:55 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2003 Tab Control
 
If I may be so bold...
 
Automatically changing another user's global settings to suit your
application's needs is considered by many (like myself) to be very
intrusive, and generally a poor practice.
 
However, there are valid reasons for needing to do this (I think you
may
have touched upon one).  In this case, I would strongly suggest
keeping
track of the user's original settings when your app launches and
restoring them when it closes.
 
Otherwise, be prepared for the confused users asking you why their
other
Access apps look "different" since they ran yours.

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Apr 28 08:00:11 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:00:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B8E563@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA83@ADGSERVER>

The query looks ok from what I can tell.

I went back to look at what we had done, you do not need to store the IDs in
the main record if you store the ID Type in the intermediate table.  That
is, type=0 may be the contact type, type=1 may be the released by type, etc.

So the intermediate table may be something like:
IMID, PermitID, TypeID, PermitNamesID.

As for populating the types on the form, you could either have a combo box
for each type that contains the ID and names from tbl_PermitNames.  If you
go this route, I would think that the combo boxes would be unbound.  When
you load up the form, you would set the combo boxes to the proper
information.  When the record is saved, you would have to update the
intermediate table.

Or, as I have done, you would call another form that you pass the type into,
and allow the user to select a name from a list.  If the user does not
cancel out of the form, then you would create the intermediate table entry
for that type, and then update the original forms type field (which would
not be editable by the user and would be unbound).  When you show the form
for a given permit, you would have to query the intermediate table to get
the data to display in the types fields.

On plus to having the intermediate table is that if you need to add a new
type, it is easy, you just define a new type.

Sorry for the confusion, it has been a while since I looked at any of that
setup.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hollis,Virginia
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:26 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names


This is what I did in the query, is this correct?

SELECT tbl_Type.NameType, tbl_PermitNames.PermitNames

FROM tbl_PermitNames INNER JOIN ((tbl_NameType INNER JOIN tbl_Permit ON
tbl_NameType.NameTypeID = tbl_Permit.ContactID) INNER JOIN tbl_Type ON
tbl_NameType.TypeID = tbl_Type.TypeID) ON tbl_PermitNames.PermitNamesID =
tbl_NameType.NameTypeID;

 

If the tables are set up correctly (as above), when I add a combo box on the
form what do I put in the source to have it add the data for the field into
the tables? If I want to select a Contact person, how does it add the data
to the tables? What about adding a new contact to the list?

 

Virginia

 

Ok, I think I understand your issue now.  Sorry that my first try was so far
off.  I did something similar with an address book thingy for this
application.  A given entry could be primary contact on one item, payroll
contact on another, etc.  So that I did not have to duplicate the people
data, I used an intermediate table to store links to the people data.
 
There is a table of contact information for each person.  There is another
table that contains the ID of the record that will be associated with the
person.  This other table also contains the ID of the person in the people
data table,
 
An example:
 
Table Main
MainID   Contact    ClosedBy     ReleasedBy
3            43           49           49
 
 
Intermediate table
IMID    MainID   PersonID
 43       3         754
 49       3         29
 
People Table
PersonID       FirstName      LastName
 754           Joe            Schmoe
 29            Suzy           Chapstick
 
So you would store the IMID into the Main table for the various contacts.
The intermediate table would contain a link to the Main table and the People
table.  The People table just contains information on the individual people.
 
So to get the Contact person, you would link the ContactID to the
Intermediate table IMID and then link the PersonID in the Intermediate table
to the PersonID in the People table.
 
In this way, you are not duplicating the People data.
 
Bobby

 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Apr 28 08:58:21 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:58:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233755C@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

<Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line>
how do you pause Access so that it waits until the process is finished? I
have a process that creates and runs cmd and bat files and then destroys
them. I have to pause Access so that the files are run before Access kills
them. My current method is a kludge. In Excel I use the Wait function. Is
there an analogous function in Access? TIA
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Sorry for the delay.....but I've been a little swamped during this thread.
Ironically, I am rebuilding an application that 'auto' extracts files from
zips.  It's probably more complex then what you are looking for though. 

I host a realty website (remax realtors).  It has a ton of properties, which
are updated regularly.  The updates are posted to an FTP site, and are
zipped.  The zip files contain both delimited text files with the property
information, and .jpg files with images for the property.

My original application used the INet control in VB, to download the files
to a directory.  Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line that
unzipped all of the files to that folder.  That was actually pretty easy to
do. The REAL fun part was then to extract all of the information from the
unzipped text files, update the database, and then sort all the pictures
(and create thumbnails for them).  The only trick on the first part was the
unzipping.  I found and Add-on for WinZip, which works perfectly, but the
only catch is that you have to have a registered version of WinZip for it to
truly work automated.  If it's not registered, the command line prompts you
for things...which is a little quirky for an 'automated' system.  So I
splurged on the $29 to register WinZip.  It was money well spent.  The
command line works wonderfully, and better yet, the registered version of
WinZip has a lot of neat features to use.

The reason I am rebuilding this application, is because I spent the last few
weeks rebuilding my home network.  Now that I have everything setup at home
(almost), I want to improve this process.  It's downloading about 1.5 gigs
worth of zip files, which even over my 3 megabit connection, takes a while.
Then it unzips them (which can take just as long, or longer), then it runs
the 'update' process.  During the download, doing anything on my own crawls
to dialup speed sometimes.  During the rest, that server is pretty tied up.
I decided to change the download/unzip process, and also modify the update
process, so that my customers will be able to track what has been updated.
In the download/unzip phase, I was using the INet control, which is quirky,
and the way I had it setup, I knew what file was downloading, but not how
big it was, or how fast it was downloading, and I couldn't pause it, only
kill the whole process.  So the new process (which I have the dl/unzip phase
done, working on the new update process) downloads everything using API
calls, and not only shows the file size, but how much has been downloaded
and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because the
FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....).  So now, if I
want to use the net at high speeds, when this thing is running, I can just
go to the server, and pause the process.  I also made a modification to the
zip process.  Instead of one big unzip '*.zip' command line, I have the VB
program start a new thread, and that thread starts runs the unzip process
for one zip file.  Works like a charm.  (It's all event driven too, so when
the last zip thread is done, it raises an event the main process can use to
launch the update process).

Drew

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Apr 28 09:17:42 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:17:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2FDA@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

What surprises me about this thread is that people are surprised that FP
numbers are subject to these rounding problems. I thought that was just a
simple fact of life due to the binary nature of computer data and it was
covered in CS101. :-)

One other thing surprised me - that Gustav's routine gets though as many as
five iterations before it finds a difference between fSum and fSuma!  Two or
three would have been my guess.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent:	Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:36 AM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
> 
> Hi Marty
> 
> That's right, but Charlotte mentioned adding 1 not 0.01.
> 
> However, if anyone at this point still are confident using Double (or <
> gosh> Single) for decimals, I modified your test.
> This is scary. Notes follow the function:
> 
> Sub CalcSum()
>   
>   ' This will take a fraction of a second to run.
>   ' Add 1 cent up to 1 billion times and apply rounding.
>   ' Exit at first encountered error.
>   
>   Dim i As Long
>   Dim iMax   As Long
>   Dim fSum  As Double
>   Dim fSuma  As Double
>   Dim fPenny As Double
>   i = 0
>   fPenny = 0.01
>   iMax = 1000000000
>   fSum = 0#
>   fSuma = 0#
>   For i = 0 To iMax - 1
>     fSum = fSum + fPenny
>     fSuma = fSuma + fPenny
>     'intermediate round to 2 decimal point precision
>     fSuma = Round(fSuma, 2)
>     ' Exit if an error has occurred.
>     If fSum <> fSuma Then Exit For
>   Next i
>   
>   Debug.Print fSum; fSuma, fSum - fSuma
> 
> End Sub
> 
> Now, take your guess - how many loops will run? Ten thousand? 
> You'll be in for a surprise!
> 
> Note that even though fSum and fSuma display the same result, they
> don't compare.
> You have to do the fSum - fSuma subtraction to have the error
> displayed.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> martyconnelly at shaw.ca 04/27 10:32 pm >>>
> Don't forget you must round to the precision needed in the
> intermediate
> calculations to avoid bias or roundoff errors, regardless of the
> precision
> of the variables used or compiler.
> After doing one billion additions of .01 or say 1 cent
> The difference in calculated values can be seen when you apply the
> intermediate rounding function.
> Applying this method will keep demented accountants out of your hair.
> 
> Final Total unrounded decimal     accurate  intermediate rounded total
>  9999999.82515867                               10000000
> 
>  Sub CalcSum()
>   'this may take several minutes to run
>   ' add 1 cent 1 billion times and apply rounding
>                         Dim i As Long
>                         Dim iMax   As Long
>                         Dim fSum  As Double
>                         Dim fSuma  As Double
>                         Dim fPenny As Double
>                         i = 0
>                         fPenny = 0.01
>                         iMax = 1000000000
>                         fSum = 0#
>                         fSuma = 0#
>                         For i = 0 To iMax - 1
> 
>                            fSum = fSum + fPenny
>                            fSuma = fSuma + fPenny
>                            'intermediate round to 2 decimal point
> precision
>                            fSuma = Round(fSuma, 2)
>                         Next i
> Debug.Print fSum; fSuma
>  End Sub
> 
> 
> Gustav Brock wrote:
> 
> >Hi Charlotte
> >
> >It fails all right, but not you have to go beyond 16 mio.:
> >
> >Public Sub TestSingle()
> >
> >  Dim sng As Single
> >  Dim lng As Long
> >  
> >  For lng = 0 To 100000000
> >    If lng <> sng Then Exit For
> >    sng = sng + 1
> >  Next
> >  Debug.Print lng, sng
> >
> >End Sub
> >
> >It runs to:
> > 16777217      1.677722E+07 
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> >  
> >
> >>>>cfoust at infostatsystems.com 04/27 7:17 pm >>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >I've seen it with addition as well.  You can build a test in code and
> >loop multiple times adding 1 to the integer of a floating point and
> >testing the mod to see if there is a remainder.  Believe me, it will
> >occur.
> >
> >Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:37 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
> >
> >
> >Hi Reuben
> >
> >Charlotte a guy? You better be careful!
> >
> >You mostly see this with subtraction (which includes addition of
> >negative values); I've never seen it with addition of positives.
> >
> >If you can't change the source data type be sure to wrap the values
> in
> >CCur(). If you need more than the four decimals of Currency you may
> >choose Double but round the results whenever possible.
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> >  
> >
> >>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 6:26 pm >>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never
> >considered it would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after
> all the work
> >I did on payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Reuben Cummings
> >GFC, LLC
> >phone: 812.523.1017
> >email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav
> Brock
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
> >
> >
> >Hi Reuben
> >
> >He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
> >using
> >data type Single for that. Change to data type Currency ...
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> >  
> >
> >>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >A client came across this for me...
> >
> >One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
> >After gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with
> a sum
> >to get the total hours.
> >
> >Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
> >6.00000023841858
> >
> >Why the strange decimals?
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Reuben Cummings
> >GFC, LLC
> >phone: 812.523.1017
> >email: reuben at gfconsultants.com 
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 28 09:37:12 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:37:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3E6@main2.marlow.com>

It's a function called ShellWait.  It's code available on the net (should
show up with a google search), I'd post it here, but I don't think we are
supposed to post other people's code.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


<Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line>
how do you pause Access so that it waits until the process is finished? I
have a process that creates and runs cmd and bat files and then destroys
them. I have to pause Access so that the files are run before Access kills
them. My current method is a kludge. In Excel I use the Wait function. Is
there an analogous function in Access? TIA
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Sorry for the delay.....but I've been a little swamped during this thread.
Ironically, I am rebuilding an application that 'auto' extracts files from
zips.  It's probably more complex then what you are looking for though. 

I host a realty website (remax realtors).  It has a ton of properties, which
are updated regularly.  The updates are posted to an FTP site, and are
zipped.  The zip files contain both delimited text files with the property
information, and .jpg files with images for the property.

My original application used the INet control in VB, to download the files
to a directory.  Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line that
unzipped all of the files to that folder.  That was actually pretty easy to
do. The REAL fun part was then to extract all of the information from the
unzipped text files, update the database, and then sort all the pictures
(and create thumbnails for them).  The only trick on the first part was the
unzipping.  I found and Add-on for WinZip, which works perfectly, but the
only catch is that you have to have a registered version of WinZip for it to
truly work automated.  If it's not registered, the command line prompts you
for things...which is a little quirky for an 'automated' system.  So I
splurged on the $29 to register WinZip.  It was money well spent.  The
command line works wonderfully, and better yet, the registered version of
WinZip has a lot of neat features to use.

The reason I am rebuilding this application, is because I spent the last few
weeks rebuilding my home network.  Now that I have everything setup at home
(almost), I want to improve this process.  It's downloading about 1.5 gigs
worth of zip files, which even over my 3 megabit connection, takes a while.
Then it unzips them (which can take just as long, or longer), then it runs
the 'update' process.  During the download, doing anything on my own crawls
to dialup speed sometimes.  During the rest, that server is pretty tied up.
I decided to change the download/unzip process, and also modify the update
process, so that my customers will be able to track what has been updated.
In the download/unzip phase, I was using the INet control, which is quirky,
and the way I had it setup, I knew what file was downloading, but not how
big it was, or how fast it was downloading, and I couldn't pause it, only
kill the whole process.  So the new process (which I have the dl/unzip phase
done, working on the new update process) downloads everything using API
calls, and not only shows the file size, but how much has been downloaded
and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because the
FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....).  So now, if I
want to use the net at high speeds, when this thing is running, I can just
go to the server, and pause the process.  I also made a modification to the
zip process.  Instead of one big unzip '*.zip' command line, I have the VB
program start a new thread, and that thread starts runs the unzip process
for one zip file.  Works like a charm.  (It's all event driven too, so when
the last zip thread is done, it raises an event the main process can use to
launch the update process).

Drew

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 28 09:48:31 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:48:31 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <s2711400.097@cactus.dk>

Hi Drew

Since when have you turned into chicken mode?
Here's the module:

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private Const SYNCHRONIZE = &H100000
                                                
' Wait forever.
Private Const INFINITE = &HFFFF
' The state of the specified object is signaled.
Private Const WAIT_OBJECT_0 = 0
' The time-out interval elapsed and the object's state is
nonsignaled.
Private Const WAIT_TIMEOUT = &H102

Private Declare Function OpenProcess Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal dwDesiredAccess As Long, _
  ByVal bInheritHandle As Long, _
  ByVal dwProcessId As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function WaitForSingleObject Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal hHandle As Long, _
  ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function CloseHandle Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal hObject As Long) _
  As Long
  
' The WaitForSingleObject function returns when one of the following
occurs:
' - The specified object is in the signaled state.
' - The time-out interval elapses.
'
' The dwMilliseconds parameter specifies the time-out interval, in
milliseconds.
' The function returns if the interval elapses, even if the object's
state is
' nonsignaled. If dwMilliseconds is zero, the function tests the
object's state
' and returns immediately. If dwMilliseconds is INFINITE, the
function's time-out
' interval never elapses.
'
' This example waits an INFINITE amount of time for the process to end.
As a
' result this process will be frozen until the shelled process
terminates. The
' down side is that if the shelled process hangs, so will this one.
'
' A better approach is to wait a specific amount of time. Once the
time-out
' interval expires, test the return value. If it is WAIT_TIMEOUT, the
process
' is still not signaled. Then you can either wait again or continue
with your
' processing.
'
' DOS Applications:
' Waiting for a DOS application is tricky because the DOS window never
goes
' away when the application is done. To get around this, prefix the app
that
' you are shelling to with "command.com /c".
'
' For example: lngPid = Shell("command.com /c " & strCommand.Text,
vbNormalFocus)

Function ShellWait( _
  ByVal strCommand As String) _
  As Boolean

  Dim lngPid      As Long
  Dim lngHnd      As Long
  Dim lngReturn   As Long
  Dim booSuccess  As Boolean
  
  If Len(Trim$(strCommand)) > 0 Then
    lngPid = Shell(strCommand, vbNormalFocus)
    If lngPid <> 0 Then
      ' Get a handle to the shelled process.
      lngHnd = OpenProcess(SYNCHRONIZE, 0, lngPid)
      ' If successful, wait for the application to end and close the
handle.
      If lngHnd <> 0 Then
        lngReturn = WaitForSingleObject(lngHnd, INFINITE)
        CloseHandle (lngHnd)
        booSuccess = True
      End If
      MsgBox "Just terminated.", vbInformation, "Shelled Application"
    End If
  End If
  
  ShellWait = booSuccess

End Function


>>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 04/28 4:37 pm >>>
It's a function called ShellWait.  It's code available on the net
(should
show up with a google search), I'd post it here, but I don't think we
are
supposed to post other people's code.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


<Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line>
how do you pause Access so that it waits until the process is finished?
I
have a process that creates and runs cmd and bat files and then
destroys
them. I have to pause Access so that the files are run before Access
kills
them. My current method is a kludge. In Excel I use the Wait function.
Is
there an analogous function in Access? TIA
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Sorry for the delay.....but I've been a little swamped during this
thread.
Ironically, I am rebuilding an application that 'auto' extracts files
from
zips.  It's probably more complex then what you are looking for though.


I host a realty website (remax realtors).  It has a ton of properties,
which
are updated regularly.  The updates are posted to an FTP site, and are
zipped.  The zip files contain both delimited text files with the
property
information, and .jpg files with images for the property.

My original application used the INet control in VB, to download the
files
to a directory.  Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line that
unzipped all of the files to that folder.  That was actually pretty
easy to
do. The REAL fun part was then to extract all of the information from
the
unzipped text files, update the database, and then sort all the
pictures
(and create thumbnails for them).  The only trick on the first part was
the
unzipping.  I found and Add-on for WinZip, which works perfectly, but
the
only catch is that you have to have a registered version of WinZip for
it to
truly work automated.  If it's not registered, the command line prompts
you
for things...which is a little quirky for an 'automated' system.  So I
splurged on the $29 to register WinZip.  It was money well spent.  The
command line works wonderfully, and better yet, the registered version
of
WinZip has a lot of neat features to use.

The reason I am rebuilding this application, is because I spent the
last few
weeks rebuilding my home network.  Now that I have everything setup at
home
(almost), I want to improve this process.  It's downloading about 1.5
gigs
worth of zip files, which even over my 3 megabit connection, takes a
while.
Then it unzips them (which can take just as long, or longer), then it
runs
the 'update' process.  During the download, doing anything on my own
crawls
to dialup speed sometimes.  During the rest, that server is pretty tied
up.
I decided to change the download/unzip process, and also modify the
update
process, so that my customers will be able to track what has been
updated.
In the download/unzip phase, I was using the INet control, which is
quirky,
and the way I had it setup, I knew what file was downloading, but not
how
big it was, or how fast it was downloading, and I couldn't pause it,
only
kill the whole process.  So the new process (which I have the dl/unzip
phase
done, working on the new update process) downloads everything using
API
calls, and not only shows the file size, but how much has been
downloaded
and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because
the
FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....).  So now,
if I
want to use the net at high speeds, when this thing is running, I can
just
go to the server, and pause the process.  I also made a modification to
the
zip process.  Instead of one big unzip '*.zip' command line, I have the
VB
program start a new thread, and that thread starts runs the unzip
process
for one zip file.  Works like a charm.  (It's all event driven too, so
when
the last zip thread is done, it raises an event the main process can
use to
launch the update process).



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 28 09:52:20 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:52:20 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <s27114d2.098@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

And here's another one for this purpose:

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private Const STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW  As Long = &H1
Private Const NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS As Long = &H20
Private Const INFINITE              As Long = -1

Private Type STARTUPINFO
  cb                As Long
  lpReserved        As String
  lpDesktop         As String
  lpTitle           As String
  dwX               As Long
  dwY               As Long
  dwXSize           As Long
  dwYSize           As Long
  dwXCountChars     As Long
  dwYCountChars     As Long
  dwFillAttribute   As Long
  dwFlags           As Long
  wShowWindow       As Integer
  cbReserved2       As Integer
  lpReserved2       As Long
  hStdInput         As Long
  hStdOutput        As Long
  hStdError         As Long
End Type

Private Type PROCESS_INFORMATION
  hProcess          As Long
  hThread           As Long
  dwProcessId       As Long
  dwThreadID        As Long
End Type

Private Declare Function WaitForSingleObject Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal hHandle As Long, _
  ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long) As Long
  
Private Declare Function CreateProcessA Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal lpApplicationName As Long, _
  ByVal lpCommandLine As String, _
  ByVal lpProcessAttributes As Long, _
  ByVal lpThreadAttributes As Long, _
  ByVal bInheritHandles As Long, _
  ByVal dwCreationFlags As Long, _
  ByVal lpEnvironment As Long, _
  ByVal lpCurrentDirectory As Long, _
  lpStartupInfo As STARTUPINFO, _
  lpProcessInformation As PROCESS_INFORMATION) As Long
  
Private Declare Function CloseHandle Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal hObject As Long) As Long
  
Public Function ShellExecute( _
  ByVal strPathname As String, _
  Optional lngAppWinStyle As Long = vbHide) As Boolean

' Start other application and wait for it to finish.
  
  Const cbInheritHandles  As Long = 1
  
  Dim typProc             As PROCESS_INFORMATION
  Dim typStart            As STARTUPINFO
  Dim lngReturn           As Long
  
  On Error GoTo Err_ShellExecute
  
  ' Initialize the STARTUPINFO structure:
  With typStart
    .cb = Len(typStart)
    .dwFlags = STARTF_USESHOWWINDOW
    .wShowWindow = lngAppWinStyle
  End With
  
  ' Load the shelled application.
  lngReturn = CreateProcessA(0, strPathname, 0, 0, cbInheritHandles, _
    NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS, 0, 0, typStart, typProc)
  With typProc
    If .dwProcessId <> 0 Then
      ' Wait for the shelled application to finish.
      lngReturn = WaitForSingleObject(.hProcess, INFINITE)
      ' Close both Process and Thread to prevent memory leak.
      lngReturn = CloseHandle(.hProcess) And CloseHandle(.hThread)
    End If
  End With

  ShellExecute = True
  
Exit_ShellExecute:
  Exit Function

Err_ShellExecute:
  MsgBox "Shell Error: " & Err.Number & ". " & Err.Description, _
    vbCritical, _
    Err.Source
  Resume Exit_ShellExecute

End Function

/gustav

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


<Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line>
how do you pause Access so that it waits until the process is finished?
I
have a process that creates and runs cmd and bat files and then
destroys
them. I have to pause Access so that the files are run before Access
kills
them. My current method is a kludge. In Excel I use the Wait function.
Is
there an analogous function in Access? TIA
Jim Hale



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Apr 28 09:51:37 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:51:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233755F@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Thanks!
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:37 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


It's a function called ShellWait.  It's code available on the net (should
show up with a google search), I'd post it here, but I don't think we are
supposed to post other people's code.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


<Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line>
how do you pause Access so that it waits until the process is finished? I
have a process that creates and runs cmd and bat files and then destroys
them. I have to pause Access so that the files are run before Access kills
them. My current method is a kludge. In Excel I use the Wait function. Is
there an analogous function in Access? TIA
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Sorry for the delay.....but I've been a little swamped during this thread.
Ironically, I am rebuilding an application that 'auto' extracts files from
zips.  It's probably more complex then what you are looking for though. 

I host a realty website (remax realtors).  It has a ton of properties, which
are updated regularly.  The updates are posted to an FTP site, and are
zipped.  The zip files contain both delimited text files with the property
information, and .jpg files with images for the property.

My original application used the INet control in VB, to download the files
to a directory.  Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line that
unzipped all of the files to that folder.  That was actually pretty easy to
do. The REAL fun part was then to extract all of the information from the
unzipped text files, update the database, and then sort all the pictures
(and create thumbnails for them).  The only trick on the first part was the
unzipping.  I found and Add-on for WinZip, which works perfectly, but the
only catch is that you have to have a registered version of WinZip for it to
truly work automated.  If it's not registered, the command line prompts you
for things...which is a little quirky for an 'automated' system.  So I
splurged on the $29 to register WinZip.  It was money well spent.  The
command line works wonderfully, and better yet, the registered version of
WinZip has a lot of neat features to use.

The reason I am rebuilding this application, is because I spent the last few
weeks rebuilding my home network.  Now that I have everything setup at home
(almost), I want to improve this process.  It's downloading about 1.5 gigs
worth of zip files, which even over my 3 megabit connection, takes a while.
Then it unzips them (which can take just as long, or longer), then it runs
the 'update' process.  During the download, doing anything on my own crawls
to dialup speed sometimes.  During the rest, that server is pretty tied up.
I decided to change the download/unzip process, and also modify the update
process, so that my customers will be able to track what has been updated.
In the download/unzip phase, I was using the INet control, which is quirky,
and the way I had it setup, I knew what file was downloading, but not how
big it was, or how fast it was downloading, and I couldn't pause it, only
kill the whole process.  So the new process (which I have the dl/unzip phase
done, working on the new update process) downloads everything using API
calls, and not only shows the file size, but how much has been downloaded
and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because the
FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....).  So now, if I
want to use the net at high speeds, when this thing is running, I can just
go to the server, and pause the process.  I also made a modification to the
zip process.  Instead of one big unzip '*.zip' command line, I have the VB
program start a new thread, and that thread starts runs the unzip process
for one zip file.  Works like a charm.  (It's all event driven too, so when
the last zip thread is done, it raises an event the main process can use to
launch the update process).

Drew

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 28 09:59:36 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:59:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3E7@main2.marlow.com>

I don't know, I rarely use other people's code now, and so I prefer not to
post someone else's work.  You didn't include the comments I have in my
module, which denote the original author.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:49 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Hi Drew

Since when have you turned into chicken mode?
Here's the module:

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private Const SYNCHRONIZE = &H100000
                                                
' Wait forever.
Private Const INFINITE = &HFFFF
' The state of the specified object is signaled.
Private Const WAIT_OBJECT_0 = 0
' The time-out interval elapsed and the object's state is
nonsignaled.
Private Const WAIT_TIMEOUT = &H102

Private Declare Function OpenProcess Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal dwDesiredAccess As Long, _
  ByVal bInheritHandle As Long, _
  ByVal dwProcessId As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function WaitForSingleObject Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal hHandle As Long, _
  ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function CloseHandle Lib "KERNEL32" ( _
  ByVal hObject As Long) _
  As Long
  
' The WaitForSingleObject function returns when one of the following
occurs:
' - The specified object is in the signaled state.
' - The time-out interval elapses.
'
' The dwMilliseconds parameter specifies the time-out interval, in
milliseconds.
' The function returns if the interval elapses, even if the object's
state is
' nonsignaled. If dwMilliseconds is zero, the function tests the
object's state
' and returns immediately. If dwMilliseconds is INFINITE, the
function's time-out
' interval never elapses.
'
' This example waits an INFINITE amount of time for the process to end.
As a
' result this process will be frozen until the shelled process
terminates. The
' down side is that if the shelled process hangs, so will this one.
'
' A better approach is to wait a specific amount of time. Once the
time-out
' interval expires, test the return value. If it is WAIT_TIMEOUT, the
process
' is still not signaled. Then you can either wait again or continue
with your
' processing.
'
' DOS Applications:
' Waiting for a DOS application is tricky because the DOS window never
goes
' away when the application is done. To get around this, prefix the app
that
' you are shelling to with "command.com /c".
'
' For example: lngPid = Shell("command.com /c " & strCommand.Text,
vbNormalFocus)

Function ShellWait( _
  ByVal strCommand As String) _
  As Boolean

  Dim lngPid      As Long
  Dim lngHnd      As Long
  Dim lngReturn   As Long
  Dim booSuccess  As Boolean
  
  If Len(Trim$(strCommand)) > 0 Then
    lngPid = Shell(strCommand, vbNormalFocus)
    If lngPid <> 0 Then
      ' Get a handle to the shelled process.
      lngHnd = OpenProcess(SYNCHRONIZE, 0, lngPid)
      ' If successful, wait for the application to end and close the
handle.
      If lngHnd <> 0 Then
        lngReturn = WaitForSingleObject(lngHnd, INFINITE)
        CloseHandle (lngHnd)
        booSuccess = True
      End If
      MsgBox "Just terminated.", vbInformation, "Shelled Application"
    End If
  End If
  
  ShellWait = booSuccess

End Function


>>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 04/28 4:37 pm >>>
It's a function called ShellWait.  It's code available on the net
(should
show up with a google search), I'd post it here, but I don't think we
are
supposed to post other people's code.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


<Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line>
how do you pause Access so that it waits until the process is finished?
I
have a process that creates and runs cmd and bat files and then
destroys
them. I have to pause Access so that the files are run before Access
kills
them. My current method is a kludge. In Excel I use the Wait function.
Is
there an analogous function in Access? TIA
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Sorry for the delay.....but I've been a little swamped during this
thread.
Ironically, I am rebuilding an application that 'auto' extracts files
from
zips.  It's probably more complex then what you are looking for though.


I host a realty website (remax realtors).  It has a ton of properties,
which
are updated regularly.  The updates are posted to an FTP site, and are
zipped.  The zip files contain both delimited text files with the
property
information, and .jpg files with images for the property.

My original application used the INet control in VB, to download the
files
to a directory.  Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line that
unzipped all of the files to that folder.  That was actually pretty
easy to
do. The REAL fun part was then to extract all of the information from
the
unzipped text files, update the database, and then sort all the
pictures
(and create thumbnails for them).  The only trick on the first part was
the
unzipping.  I found and Add-on for WinZip, which works perfectly, but
the
only catch is that you have to have a registered version of WinZip for
it to
truly work automated.  If it's not registered, the command line prompts
you
for things...which is a little quirky for an 'automated' system.  So I
splurged on the $29 to register WinZip.  It was money well spent.  The
command line works wonderfully, and better yet, the registered version
of
WinZip has a lot of neat features to use.

The reason I am rebuilding this application, is because I spent the
last few
weeks rebuilding my home network.  Now that I have everything setup at
home
(almost), I want to improve this process.  It's downloading about 1.5
gigs
worth of zip files, which even over my 3 megabit connection, takes a
while.
Then it unzips them (which can take just as long, or longer), then it
runs
the 'update' process.  During the download, doing anything on my own
crawls
to dialup speed sometimes.  During the rest, that server is pretty tied
up.
I decided to change the download/unzip process, and also modify the
update
process, so that my customers will be able to track what has been
updated.
In the download/unzip phase, I was using the INet control, which is
quirky,
and the way I had it setup, I knew what file was downloading, but not
how
big it was, or how fast it was downloading, and I couldn't pause it,
only
kill the whole process.  So the new process (which I have the dl/unzip
phase
done, working on the new update process) downloads everything using
API
calls, and not only shows the file size, but how much has been
downloaded
and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because
the
FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....).  So now,
if I
want to use the net at high speeds, when this thing is running, I can
just
go to the server, and pause the process.  I also made a modification to
the
zip process.  Instead of one big unzip '*.zip' command line, I have the
VB
program start a new thread, and that thread starts runs the unzip
process
for one zip file.  Works like a charm.  (It's all event driven too, so
when
the last zip thread is done, it raises an event the main process can
use to
launch the update process).

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Apr 28 10:08:09 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:08:09 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
Message-ID: <s270c45c.074@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Thank you! As usual, I have asked, and I have received. And, also as
usual...I'm not sure this is a good thing...I've gotten enough back,
that I have gotten more in depth. I am looking forward to checking out
Bryan's example, but for now I have gone with Don and Charlotte's
"hit-myself-in-the-head-why-didn't-I-think-of-that" idea of using an
invisible command button over the top of a label. 

BTW Don, I'm not getting any flickering, so this should definitely work
for me. 

Thanks again!

John W Clark

>>> donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com 4/27/2005 2:12:06 PM >>>
John, 

I experimented with something similar, but I used transparent command
buttons over labels.  This allows you to use all the capabilities of
command buttons without being limited by their fixed visual style. 
The
result of my experiment was pretty cool, but it was kinda flickery, so
I
didn't actually use it for anything.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:44 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons


I am whipping up a new program and I wanted to try something new for
the
interface on the menus. I've had this "look" in my head, and I figured
I'd try it out on this program...the program seems pretty small and
easy, so it would be a good time to spend the extra time on some new
interface ideas.

Anyhow, I usually use command buttons, and I change the text color as
I
mouse over them, or when the gain focus via the keyboard. I wanted to
try something slightly different and am experimenting with labels and
text boxes. Labels quickly proved unworthy of the task, because they
can't get focus...unless I am missing something here...so I have
focused
my energy on developing text box buttons. I have them pretty close to
completion, and I like them, except they highlight the text and/or put
a
cursor in them. Is there any way to not highlight the text inside and
to
not get a cursor in the text box, even when it is clicked?

Thanks 

John W Clark
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Apr 28 10:24:11 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:24:11 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <s2711c52.099@cactus.dk>

Hi Drew

The major source for these generic functions is the official API
specifications and examples.
I've seen so many variations on these and it is impossible to tell who
included which comments.

/gustav

>>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 04/28 4:59 pm >>>
I don't know, I rarely use other people's code now, and so I prefer not
to
post someone else's work.  You didn't include the comments I have in
my
module, which denote the original author.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:49 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Hi Drew

Since when have you turned into chicken mode?



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 28 10:35:10 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:35:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233755C@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <427102AE.3010701@shaw.ca>

ShellAndWait  by Terry Kreft

http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0004.htm

Randy Birch has some variations on this to avoid loops, possible screen 
freezes etc.

http://vbnet.mvps.org/
Search on Shell and Wait
or
http://vbnet.mvps.org/code/faq/waitforsingleobject2.htm

Hale, Jim wrote:

><Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line>
>how do you pause Access so that it waits until the process is finished? I
>have a process that creates and runs cmd and bat files and then destroys
>them. I have to pause Access so that the files are run before Access kills
>them. My current method is a kludge. In Excel I use the Wait function. Is
>there an analogous function in Access? TIA
>Jim Hale
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DWUTKA at marlow.com [mailto:DWUTKA at marlow.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:18 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files
>
>
>Sorry for the delay.....but I've been a little swamped during this thread.
>Ironically, I am rebuilding an application that 'auto' extracts files from
>zips.  It's probably more complex then what you are looking for though. 
>
>I host a realty website (remax realtors).  It has a ton of properties, which
>are updated regularly.  The updates are posted to an FTP site, and are
>zipped.  The zip files contain both delimited text files with the property
>information, and .jpg files with images for the property.
>
>My original application used the INet control in VB, to download the files
>to a directory.  Then I would shell (and wait) to a command line that
>unzipped all of the files to that folder.  That was actually pretty easy to
>do. The REAL fun part was then to extract all of the information from the
>unzipped text files, update the database, and then sort all the pictures
>(and create thumbnails for them).  The only trick on the first part was the
>unzipping.  I found and Add-on for WinZip, which works perfectly, but the
>only catch is that you have to have a registered version of WinZip for it to
>truly work automated.  If it's not registered, the command line prompts you
>for things...which is a little quirky for an 'automated' system.  So I
>splurged on the $29 to register WinZip.  It was money well spent.  The
>command line works wonderfully, and better yet, the registered version of
>WinZip has a lot of neat features to use.
>
>The reason I am rebuilding this application, is because I spent the last few
>weeks rebuilding my home network.  Now that I have everything setup at home
>(almost), I want to improve this process.  It's downloading about 1.5 gigs
>worth of zip files, which even over my 3 megabit connection, takes a while.
>Then it unzips them (which can take just as long, or longer), then it runs
>the 'update' process.  During the download, doing anything on my own crawls
>to dialup speed sometimes.  During the rest, that server is pretty tied up.
>I decided to change the download/unzip process, and also modify the update
>process, so that my customers will be able to track what has been updated.
>In the download/unzip phase, I was using the INet control, which is quirky,
>and the way I had it setup, I knew what file was downloading, but not how
>big it was, or how fast it was downloading, and I couldn't pause it, only
>kill the whole process.  So the new process (which I have the dl/unzip phase
>done, working on the new update process) downloads everything using API
>calls, and not only shows the file size, but how much has been downloaded
>and even has pause and cancel buttons. (Can't pause it forever, because the
>FTP site will time out, but I'm going to fix that too.....).  So now, if I
>want to use the net at high speeds, when this thing is running, I can just
>go to the server, and pause the process.  I also made a modification to the
>zip process.  Instead of one big unzip '*.zip' command line, I have the VB
>program start a new thread, and that thread starts runs the unzip process
>for one zip file.  Works like a charm.  (It's all event driven too, so when
>the last zip thread is done, it raises an event the main process can use to
>launch the update process).
>
>Drew
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 28 11:04:54 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:04:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] VB.Net expert
In-Reply-To: <427102AE.3010701@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0IFN00806ZC3JJ@l-daemon>

Hi All:

A fellow developer has got himself into a bit of a bind with having to just
'display' an existing project that was written in VB.Net. The references do
not all work and I just could not help resolving the issues. There is a
dead-line of Friday...Yeh Friday. 

He will pay at a negotiable rate.

Anyone in the Victoria/Vancouver area preferred but a remote talent would be
acceptable.

TIA
Jim 



From pjones at btl.net  Thu Apr 28 11:02:38 2005
From: pjones at btl.net (Paul M. Jones)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:02:38 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access 2000 and Terminal Server 2K3
Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050428095659.02759748@pop.btl.net>

Hi Group,

Does anyone know the pros and cons of each user running their own copy of 
an MS Access FE Vs. having them all run the same FE file from a link?  I 
know the single FE makes updating the application more difficult since the 
lock file is created as soon as someone opens the FE.  I'm more seeking 
information regarding the performance and resource issues.


Paul M. Jones
Spire Services Ltd.


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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Thu Apr 28 11:12:37 2005
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Don [ITS])
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:12:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
Message-ID: <E2B2D43190AF7948BF79EF0079153D3C01301EF0@PDAWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

As I recall, I was doing something like Bryan's button over a label over
a picture thing.  Swapping image files depending on mouse position.
Some forms (using exactly the same code) worked really well, while
others were really flickery.  Didn't really have time to dig in and
figure out what the difference was, so I just left the "feature" out.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:08 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons


Thank you! As usual, I have asked, and I have received. And, also as
usual...I'm not sure this is a good thing...I've gotten enough back,
that I have gotten more in depth. I am looking forward to checking out
Bryan's example, but for now I have gone with Don and Charlotte's
"hit-myself-in-the-head-why-didn't-I-think-of-that" idea of using an
invisible command button over the top of a label. 

BTW Don, I'm not getting any flickering, so this should definitely work
for me. 

Thanks again!

John W Clark

>>> donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com 4/27/2005 2:12:06 PM >>>
John, 

I experimented with something similar, but I used transparent command
buttons over labels.  This allows you to use all the capabilities of
command buttons without being limited by their fixed visual style. 
The
result of my experiment was pretty cool, but it was kinda flickery, so
I
didn't actually use it for anything.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:44 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons


I am whipping up a new program and I wanted to try something new for
the
interface on the menus. I've had this "look" in my head, and I figured
I'd try it out on this program...the program seems pretty small and
easy, so it would be a good time to spend the extra time on some new
interface ideas.

Anyhow, I usually use command buttons, and I change the text color as
I
mouse over them, or when the gain focus via the keyboard. I wanted to
try something slightly different and am experimenting with labels and
text boxes. Labels quickly proved unworthy of the task, because they
can't get focus...unless I am missing something here...so I have
focused
my energy on developing text box buttons. I have them pretty close to
completion, and I like them, except they highlight the text and/or put
a
cursor in them. Is there any way to not highlight the text inside and
to
not get a cursor in the text box, even when it is clicked?

Thanks 

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Thu Apr 28 11:14:24 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:14:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Unzip Files
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3E8@main2.marlow.com>

True.  I copy and pasted the code years ago, when I built the original
program I am rebuilding.  Nowadays, I tend to make my own 'utility' modules,
just for the fun of it....

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Hi Drew

The major source for these generic functions is the official API
specifications and examples.
I've seen so many variations on these and it is impossible to tell who
included which comments.

/gustav

>>> DWUTKA at marlow.com 04/28 4:59 pm >>>
I don't know, I rarely use other people's code now, and so I prefer not
to
post someone else's work.  You didn't include the comments I have in
my
module, which denote the original author.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:49 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Unzip Files


Hi Drew

Since when have you turned into chicken mode?

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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Thu Apr 28 11:24:17 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:24:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F2C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Here's a good one for you.  M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB via ADO to access our SQL data.  We've been doing just that and in researching an issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when uploading via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions that there is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that the ODBC drivers should be used instead.

My question:  Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture and all the data access is done via centralized components.  I know using ODBC will require modding the connect string.  Once we've got a connection to the database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're using connection objects, recordsets and command objects.  Is there a lot of SQL specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?

TIA

Jim DeMarco
Director of Application Development
Hudson Health Plan



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 28 11:54:36 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:54:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access 2000 and Terminal Server 2K3
References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050428095659.02759748@pop.btl.net>
Message-ID: <4271154C.2080702@shaw.ca>

Here are a series of notes on splitting from Tony Toews with a lot of 
secondary url's
http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/splitapp/index.htm
Best Practices When Using Microsoft Office Access 2003 in a Multi-user 
Environment
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_ac2003_ta/html/odc_acmultibest.asp

Paul M. Jones wrote:

> Hi Group,
>
> Does anyone know the pros and cons of each user running their own copy 
> of an MS Access FE Vs. having them all run the same FE file from a 
> link?  I know the single FE makes updating the application more 
> difficult since the lock file is created as soon as someone opens the 
> FE.  I'm more seeking information regarding the performance and 
> resource issues.
>
>
> Paul M. Jones
> Spire Services Ltd.
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>
> Reality is the murder of a beautiful theory by a gang of ugly facts.
>         Robert L. Glass
>

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Thu Apr 28 13:07:30 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:07:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2FDA@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <JKEJKMLAODCACEAIJLPAKEBFDAAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

>>I thought that was just a
>>simple fact of life due to the binary nature of computer data and it was
>>covered in CS101. :-)

Remember, some of us have never had a computer class :)

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
phone: 812.523.1017
email: reuben at gfconsultants.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:18 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


What surprises me about this thread is that people are surprised that FP
numbers are subject to these rounding problems. I thought that was just a
simple fact of life due to the binary nature of computer data and it was
covered in CS101. :-)

One other thing surprised me - that Gustav's routine gets though as many as
five iterations before it finds a difference between fSum and fSuma!  Two or
three would have been my guess.

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent:	Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:36 AM
> To:	accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject:	Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
>
> Hi Marty
>
> That's right, but Charlotte mentioned adding 1 not 0.01.
>
> However, if anyone at this point still are confident using Double (or <
> gosh> Single) for decimals, I modified your test.
> This is scary. Notes follow the function:
>
> Sub CalcSum()
>
>   ' This will take a fraction of a second to run.
>   ' Add 1 cent up to 1 billion times and apply rounding.
>   ' Exit at first encountered error.
>
>   Dim i As Long
>   Dim iMax   As Long
>   Dim fSum  As Double
>   Dim fSuma  As Double
>   Dim fPenny As Double
>   i = 0
>   fPenny = 0.01
>   iMax = 1000000000
>   fSum = 0#
>   fSuma = 0#
>   For i = 0 To iMax - 1
>     fSum = fSum + fPenny
>     fSuma = fSuma + fPenny
>     'intermediate round to 2 decimal point precision
>     fSuma = Round(fSuma, 2)
>     ' Exit if an error has occurred.
>     If fSum <> fSuma Then Exit For
>   Next i
>
>   Debug.Print fSum; fSuma, fSum - fSuma
>
> End Sub
>
> Now, take your guess - how many loops will run? Ten thousand?
> You'll be in for a surprise!
>
> Note that even though fSum and fSuma display the same result, they
> don't compare.
> You have to do the fSum - fSuma subtraction to have the error
> displayed.
>
> /gustav
>
> >>> martyconnelly at shaw.ca 04/27 10:32 pm >>>
> Don't forget you must round to the precision needed in the
> intermediate
> calculations to avoid bias or roundoff errors, regardless of the
> precision
> of the variables used or compiler.
> After doing one billion additions of .01 or say 1 cent
> The difference in calculated values can be seen when you apply the
> intermediate rounding function.
> Applying this method will keep demented accountants out of your hair.
>
> Final Total unrounded decimal     accurate  intermediate rounded total
>  9999999.82515867                               10000000
>
>  Sub CalcSum()
>   'this may take several minutes to run
>   ' add 1 cent 1 billion times and apply rounding
>                         Dim i As Long
>                         Dim iMax   As Long
>                         Dim fSum  As Double
>                         Dim fSuma  As Double
>                         Dim fPenny As Double
>                         i = 0
>                         fPenny = 0.01
>                         iMax = 1000000000
>                         fSum = 0#
>                         fSuma = 0#
>                         For i = 0 To iMax - 1
>
>                            fSum = fSum + fPenny
>                            fSuma = fSuma + fPenny
>                            'intermediate round to 2 decimal point
> precision
>                            fSuma = Round(fSuma, 2)
>                         Next i
> Debug.Print fSum; fSuma
>  End Sub
>
>
> Gustav Brock wrote:
>
> >Hi Charlotte
> >
> >It fails all right, but not you have to go beyond 16 mio.:
> >
> >Public Sub TestSingle()
> >
> >  Dim sng As Single
> >  Dim lng As Long
> >
> >  For lng = 0 To 100000000
> >    If lng <> sng Then Exit For
> >    sng = sng + 1
> >  Next
> >  Debug.Print lng, sng
> >
> >End Sub
> >
> >It runs to:
> > 16777217      1.677722E+07
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> >
> >
> >>>>cfoust at infostatsystems.com 04/27 7:17 pm >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >I've seen it with addition as well.  You can build a test in code and
> >loop multiple times adding 1 to the integer of a floating point and
> >testing the mod to see if there is a remainder.  Believe me, it will
> >occur.
> >
> >Charlotte Foust
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk]
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:37 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
> >
> >
> >Hi Reuben
> >
> >Charlotte a guy? You better be careful!
> >
> >You mostly see this with subtraction (which includes addition of
> >negative values); I've never seen it with addition of positives.
> >
> >If you can't change the source data type be sure to wrap the values
> in
> >CCur(). If you need more than the four decimals of Currency you may
> >choose Double but round the results whenever possible.
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> >
> >
> >>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 6:26 pm >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >You guys nailed that one.  HoursWorked is a single.  I never
> >considered it would cause a problem with addition.  Of course, after
> all the work
> >I did on payroll calculations I can't beleive it was still a single.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Reuben Cummings
> >GFC, LLC
> >phone: 812.523.1017
> >email: reuben at gfconsultants.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav
> Brock
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 10:53 AM
> >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
> >
> >
> >Hi Reuben
> >
> >He is probably adding and subtraction 0.1 hour as well and you are
> >using
> >data type Single for that. Change to data type Currency ...
> >
> >/gustav
> >
> >
> >
> >>>>reuben at gfconsultants.com 04/27 5:38 pm >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >A client came across this for me...
> >
> >One employee has 10 pay records on one day that are each .6 hours.
> >After gathering all the pay info I use a standard grouping query with
> a sum
> >to get the total hours.
> >
> >Rather than adding up to 6 hours, these 10 records resolve to
> >6.00000023841858
> >
> >Why the strange decimals?
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Reuben Cummings
> >GFC, LLC
> >phone: 812.523.1017
> >email: reuben at gfconsultants.com
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Apr 28 13:14:39 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:14:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F2C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F2C@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a0504281114135ecb2a@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know... 

While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin 
archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center. the FE 
is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images inside DBs and 
would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and serve it up 
via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for uploading so that users 
couldn't use that as their personal drive either...

what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into the db?



On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> 
> Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB via 
> ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in researching an 
> issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when uploading 
> via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions that there 
> is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that the 
> ODBC drivers should be used instead.
> 
> My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture and 
> all the data access is done via centralized components. I know using ODBC 
> will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection to the 
> database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're using 
> connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of SQL 
> specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
> 
> 
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Apr 28 13:35:30 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:35:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question (I think)
Message-ID: <s270f4cb.006@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I am whipping up a quick program, and there are many "descriptors" in
the main table (i.e. hair, eyes, status, race, etc.). My question is
this:

Should I have an individual table for each descriptor? This is the way
I mostly do it now. I put in value lists for something like "gender,"
which will most likely stay the same (I don't want to think about the
"what ifs" here). But for other things, I like to leave it open for the
user to input. I then give them a button for "Program Administration"
and a bunch of little forms, which are basically prettied-up continuous
forms, to enter these options. 

This actually came in handy, on one of my previous programs. Their
"Race" designations were altered, about a year after they began using
the program...asian was split into sub-groups...and they were able to go
in and change this without my help. 

I was just wondering whether this is considered acceptable practice, or
if I am being a bit retentive here.

TIA 

John W Clark


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Apr 28 13:52:40 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:52:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question (I think)
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30B8E65A@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABEA89@ADGSERVER>

I generally do what you are doing.  Especially if it is not something that I
want to keep adding to myself.

Bobby

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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question (I think)


I am whipping up a quick program, and there are many "descriptors" in the
main table (i.e. hair, eyes, status, race, etc.). My question is
this:

Should I have an individual table for each descriptor? This is the way I
mostly do it now. I put in value lists for something like "gender," which
will most likely stay the same (I don't want to think about the "what ifs"
here). But for other things, I like to leave it open for the user to input.
I then give them a button for "Program Administration" and a bunch of little
forms, which are basically prettied-up continuous forms, to enter these
options. 

This actually came in handy, on one of my previous programs. Their "Race"
designations were altered, about a year after they began using the
program...asian was split into sub-groups...and they were able to go in and
change this without my help. 

I was just wondering whether this is considered acceptable practice, or if I
am being a bit retentive here.

TIA 

John W Clark



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Apr 28 14:00:40 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:00:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question (I think)
In-Reply-To: <26346550.1114713577280.JavaMail.root@sniper19>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAA6xJj7OK5kUeJEGjxWwM+xAEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

John,

To me this sounds fine.  Generally, all lists should be modifiable in some
way by the program's users (except where you really know they won't change).

A question you might want to consider:  After a change is made, what will
happen to your reporting criteria.  If someone pulls up a report by
selecting one of the asian sub-groups, it will automatically not select
anything for a whole years' worth of data.  

When I have this issue, I present it to the users and ask them how they want
to handle it. 

HTH, 

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question (I think)

I am whipping up a quick program, and there are many "descriptors" in
the main table (i.e. hair, eyes, status, race, etc.). My question is
this:

Should I have an individual table for each descriptor? This is the way
I mostly do it now. I put in value lists for something like "gender,"
which will most likely stay the same (I don't want to think about the
"what ifs" here). But for other things, I like to leave it open for the
user to input. I then give them a button for "Program Administration"
and a bunch of little forms, which are basically prettied-up continuous
forms, to enter these options. 

This actually came in handy, on one of my previous programs. Their
"Race" designations were altered, about a year after they began using
the program...asian was split into sub-groups...and they were able to go
in and change this without my help. 

I was just wondering whether this is considered acceptable practice, or
if I am being a bit retentive here.

TIA 

John W Clark
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Apr 28 14:21:23 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:21:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337568@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

And for some of us the last class was when COBOL and  fortan were cutting
edge and transistors on silicon had not yet replaced magnetic core...:-)
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Cummings [mailto:reuben at gfconsultants.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


>>I thought that was just a
>>simple fact of life due to the binary nature of computer data and it was
>>covered in CS101. :-)

Remember, some of us have never had a computer class :)

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
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email: reuben at gfconsultants.com

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From spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk  Thu Apr 28 14:31:15 2005
From: spikee at oatlandspark.org.uk (Chris Foote (Spike))
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:31:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337568@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
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We would to dream of having magnetic core stores! We used to have to make do
wi' punched cards if we were lucky...

I'll get me coat!

Chris Foote

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 28 April 2005 20:21
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


And for some of us the last class was when COBOL and  fortan were cutting
edge and transistors on silicon had not yet replaced magnetic core...:-)
Jim Hale




From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Thu Apr 28 14:42:24 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:42:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F39@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal documentation (birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store the docs as BLOBs also.

I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture.  We used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves scanned docs to the BLOB.  Until yesterday I was of the belief that we we not storing the entire BLOB but now it seems we are.  I'm assuming that by "entire BLOB" you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you choose) header and extraneous data.  The consultant had tested the component and assured us that each BLOB would max at approx. 20K but using the DATALENGTH function James Barash sent me I see that they are quite a bit larger than expected.

Is that what you meant?

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


I don't know... 

While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin 
archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center. the FE 
is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images inside DBs and would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and serve it up via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for uploading so that users couldn't use that as their personal drive either...

what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into the db?



On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> 
> Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB via > ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in researching an 
> issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when uploading 
> via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions that there 
> is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that the > ODBC drivers should be used instead.
> 
> My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture and > all the data access is done via centralized components. I know using ODBC 
> will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection to the 
> database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're using 
> connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of SQL > specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan
> 
> 
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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Thu Apr 28 15:11:36 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 13:11:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
In-Reply-To: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F39@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F39@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a05042813115ef5deb0@mail.gmail.com>

yup that's exactly what I ment..

On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> 
> We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal documentation 
> (birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store the docs as BLOBs 
> also.
> 
> I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture. We 
> used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves scanned 
> docs to the BLOB. Until yesterday I was of the belief that we we not storing 
> the entire BLOB but now it seems we are. I'm assuming that by "entire BLOB" 
> you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you choose) header and extraneous 
> data. The consultant had tested the component and assured us that each BLOB 
> would max at approx. 20K but using the DATALENGTH function James Barash sent 
> me I see that they are quite a bit larger than expected.
> 
> Is that what you meant?
> 
> Jim D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
> Tapia
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
> 
> I don't know...
> 
> While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin
> archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center. the 
> FE
> is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images inside DBs and 
> would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and serve it up 
> via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for uploading so that users 
> couldn't use that as their personal drive either...
> 
> what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into the 
> db?
> 
> On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> >
> > Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB via 
> > ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in researching 
> an
> > issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when 
> uploading
> > via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions that 
> there
> > is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that 
> the > ODBC drivers should be used instead.
> >
> > My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture 
> and > all the data access is done via centralized components. I know using 
> ODBC
> > will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection to 
> the
> > database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're 
> using
> > connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of 
> SQL > specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Jim DeMarco
> > Director of Application Development
> > Hudson Health Plan
> >
> >
> > 
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From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Apr 28 16:01:29 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:01:29 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] lock data2
References: <003501c54bec$c79234e0$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <001b01c54c35$9503d080$f6c581d5@pedro>

Hi,

this problem was badly explained, so i will try again.

I have a table in which data about bricks and their prices are stored.
I use this data in a form where the orders of these bricks are stored. The
prices of the bricks are used only as lookup (the price can't be changed by
hand on this form).
The prices in this form are used to make bills by mail merge with word.
When the price of a brick (for example A)  changes and the price in the
table for brick A is will be changed to.
When opening the order form and changing other data in the order for brick A
the original price will be updated with the new price.
How can i prevent this. When i place a order, the price at the date of the
order must stay on the form, even when the price of this brick is changed in
the table.

Pedro Janssen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:21 PM
Subject: [AccessD] lock data


> Hello Group,
>
> i have a form that is using a table to store its data of stone prices.
When the prices in the table changes, the data on the form also changes.
>
> I would like that the prices can not change, after it is places on the
form the first time, when the record is opened.
>
> TIA
>
> Pedro Janssen
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 16:47:46 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:47:46 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337568@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <4271E6A2.22458.257B554@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Apr 2005 at 14:21, Hale, Jim wrote:

> And for some of us the last class was when COBOL and  fortan were cutting
> edge and transistors on silicon had not yet replaced magnetic core...:-)
> Jim Hale
> 

Uh-oh, here it comes again....
I had to carve my own abacus..... :-)

(Well, it is Friday alreay here in PNG)



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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Apr 28 17:00:39 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 17:00:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233756D@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

No abacus but I still have my slide rule. :-)
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:48 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error


On 28 Apr 2005 at 14:21, Hale, Jim wrote:

> And for some of us the last class was when COBOL and  fortan were cutting
> edge and transistors on silicon had not yet replaced magnetic core...:-)
> Jim Hale
> 

Uh-oh, here it comes again....
I had to carve my own abacus..... :-)

(Well, it is Friday alreay here in PNG)



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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 17:02:20 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:02:20 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] lock data2
In-Reply-To: <001b01c54c35$9503d080$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <4271EA0C.19403.2650C5E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Apr 2005 at 23:01, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> this problem was badly explained, so i will try again.
> 
> I have a table in which data about bricks and their prices are stored.
> I use this data in a form where the orders of these bricks are stored. The
> prices of the bricks are used only as lookup (the price can't be changed by
> hand on this form).
> The prices in this form are used to make bills by mail merge with word.
> When the price of a brick (for example A)  changes and the price in the
> table for brick A is will be changed to.
> When opening the order form and changing other data in the order for brick A
> the original price will be updated with the new price.
> How can i prevent this. When i place a order, the price at the date of the
> order must stay on the form, even when the price of this brick is changed in
> the table.
> 

You need to have a Price field in the Order table  and store the price at 
the time the order is first created.  

Assuming you are picking order items off a combo box, include the current 
price as a column in the combo. Display the OrderPrice on your order form 
and set it OrderPrice from the combobox  CurrentPrice column in the combo 
on_change event.  

You should also include some sort of validation to avoid inadvertently 
updating the price later. Something along the lines of:

If  NZ(OrderValue.OldPrice,0) <> O  AND OrderPrice.OldValue <> OrderPrice 
Then
	If MsgBox('Confirm you want to change the Price of this item...........



-- 
Stuart




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 17:10:53 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:10:53 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Using text boxes as fake buttons
In-Reply-To: <s270c45c.074@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <4271EC0D.6711.26CE046@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Apr 2005 at 11:08, John Clark wrote:

> Bryan's example, but for now I have gone with Don and Charlotte's
> "hit-myself-in-the-head-why-didn't-I-think-of-that" idea of using an
> invisible command button over the top of a label. 
> 

Careful you don't confuse people.   Invisible and transparent are two 
different properties.

Set a button to Visible = False and you can't click it. You have to set it 
to Transparent = True.




-- 
Stuart




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 17:17:12 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:17:12 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <20050428115607.DHHM2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE29@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <4271ED88.5792.272AA06@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Apr 2005 at 7:56, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Each "type" would be an individual record then. Sounds like you have a many
> to many relationship between your name table and your type table. 
> 

Assuming that there is a type table.  

If Contact, IssuedTo, IssuedBy, ClosedBy, ReleasedBy are fixed fields in 
the main record,  you don't need any intermediate type table or link table, 
just store the PersonID in each field as appropriate.

-- 
Stuart




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 17:23:40 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:23:40 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] :) 
In-Reply-To: <20050428114755.DBRR2434.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <4271EF0C.10468.27892F7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Apr 2005 at 7:47, Susan Harkins wrote:

> http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-10585_11-5671055.html?tag=nl.e101
>  
That's what I've always done - it's so obvious, I'm surprised to learn that 
it's not the usual method.









-- 
Stuart




From artful at rogers.com  Thu Apr 28 17:58:12 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:58:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] For Lembit
In-Reply-To: <001301c54b10$43f421c0$9115758f@aine>
References: <200411120145.iAC1jUdQ007739@cooper.uws.edu.au>	<019201c4c879$8a5ff900$e81865cb@winxp>
	<001301c54b10$43f421c0$9115758f@aine>
Message-ID: <42716A84.3060705@rogers.com>

I'm shocked, Martin! You can't speak Dutch? I've only been there 6 times 
but I'm quite the aficionado. My favourite Dutch is the word for vacuum 
cleaner. My spelling may be off by I am assured that my pronunciation is 
coming along just fine.

Stopfzaugher = vacuum cleaner, but you have to hear it to believe it 
LOL. I've practised that word thousands of times.

Then there is the really tricky one, the name of a coastal town. Dutch 
has lots of wonderful sounds. The town to which I refer is Scheveningen, 
but there is a "hidden" L in the SCH part of the word. It takes a LOT of 
practice to say it correctly.

Recently I was in Vancouver airport and the person checking me in had a 
Dutch accent. (Aside from the fact that she was drop-dead-gorgeous, 
blond and blue-eyed, as are almost all Dutch women, I can spot a Dutch 
accent in English instantly.)  So I inquired and she said yes, and I 
told her my favourite two Dutch words, then pronounced them. She laughed 
out loud. She said, "Perfect! I can't believe it." I told her about my 
hours of practice and she told me a WWII story. The Dutch used to ask 
people to say Schevningen because Germans couldn't say it. That was the 
trick question they used to identify German spies.

It happens that this year is a good year for Dutch-Canadian relations. I 
have lots of tulips in my front yard, in honour of Nederlands. I have 
been to about 30 countries and was nowhere treated so well as there. And 
incidentally, I have been to Schevningen, Rotterdam, and even the 
Aalsmeer flower market, the largest in the world.

Canada and Holland have a special relationship. Thanks for providing 
that text. I'm far from fluent but most of it was obvious. I haven't 
been back for about 8 years. It's time!

Arthur

Martin Reid wrote:

> Lembit
>
> Could you translate please
>
>
>
> Mijn naam is Jan Peeters en ben student handelsingenieur aan de KUL.  
> Voor het vak "beleidsinformatica" heb ik de opdracht gekregen om een 
> gevallenstudie uit te voeren waarin ten minste 3 thema's van de cursus 
> aan bod komen.  Ik zal eerst een paar voorbeelden geven van de 
> thema's: herbruikbaarheid in informatica systemen, overerving, 
> persistentie en materialisatie, het gebruik van XML, web services, 
> verschillende soorten databases, architecturen, SQL en hoe de 
> bedrijfsstrategie eruit ziet met behulp van informatica.
>
> Als er bij u in de organisatie verschillende thema's aan bod komen zou 
> ik zeer graag de mogelijkheid krijgen om uw bedrijf als casestudy te 
> nemen.
>
>
>


From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 28 18:36:00 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:36:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <4271ED88.5792.272AA06@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20050428233559.ZWBS2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

How could a contact be both IssuedTo and IssuedBy? I admit, I'm confused by
the purposes of the types. I feel like something's missing. 

Susan H. 

On 28 Apr 2005 at 7:56, Susan Harkins wrote:

> Each "type" would be an individual record then. Sounds like you have a 
> many to many relationship between your name table and your type table.
> 

Assuming that there is a type table.  

If Contact, IssuedTo, IssuedBy, ClosedBy, ReleasedBy are fixed fields in the
main record,  you don't need any intermediate type table or link table, just
store the PersonID in each field as appropriate.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 18:53:05 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:53:05 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <20050428233559.ZWBS2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <4271ED88.5792.272AA06@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42720401.28202.2CA7185@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Apr 2005 at 19:36, Susan Harkins wrote:

> How could a contact be both IssuedTo and IssuedBy? I admit, I'm confused by
> the purposes of the types. I feel like something's missing. 
> 

Quite common in repair shops etc. for Jobs.

You have one master staff list which you use for everything including HRM 
and  Job tracking

A job comes in. It is:
a. ReceivedBy - a person on the counter (who puts in in a stack)
b. IssuedBy - a supervisor (who takes it from the stack)
c. IssuedTo - a serviceman (who carries out the work)
d. CheckedBy - a supervisor
d. ReturnedBy - a person on the counter.

Each of these is a field in the job record which stores the StaffID.

-- 
Stuart




From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Apr 28 19:08:45 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:08:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question (I think)
In-Reply-To: <s270f4cb.006@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNMEPADLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

<<Should I have an individual table for each descriptor? This is the way
I mostly do it now. I put in value lists for something like "gender,"
which will most likely stay the same (I don't want to think about the
"what ifs" here). But for other things, I like to leave it open for the
user to input. I then give them a button for "Program Administration"
and a bunch of little forms, which are basically prettied-up continuous
forms, to enter these options. >>

  That is one way.  Another is a single lookup table:

tblLookup
LookupID - Autonum PK
LookupType - Long FK to tblLookupTypes
Value


tblLookupTypes
LookupTypeID - Autonum PK
Description
UserModifable - True/False

 I do most of my systems this way.

 But another way to design something like this is:

tblPeople - One record per person
PersonID - Autonumber PK
FirstName
LastName
etc.

tblAttributeTypes - One record per possible attribute type
AttributeID - Autonumber PK
Description


tblPeopleAttributes - One record per person/attribute
PersonID - Long FK to tblPeople
AttributeID - Long FK to tblAttributeTypes
Value


 Now on the above, *some* might like to add a PeopleAttributeID - Autonum PK
and if so, knock yourself out, but I think it's rather silly.

  With the above a user can add a new attribute they want to keep track of
i.e. "Nose pierced" or "Distance between eyes" and then assign a value for
each person.

  You can also extend this design by adding additional fields to
tblAttributeTypes that defines the allowed value (i.e. Y/N, 1 - 99999,
Lookup list, etc).  If a lookup list you would add a table
(tblAttributeTypeValues) that defines a list of allowed values for a given
attribute.

HTH,
Jim.






-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:36 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access 101 question (I think)


I am whipping up a quick program, and there are many "descriptors" in
the main table (i.e. hair, eyes, status, race, etc.). My question is
this:

Should I have an individual table for each descriptor? This is the way
I mostly do it now. I put in value lists for something like "gender,"
which will most likely stay the same (I don't want to think about the
"what ifs" here). But for other things, I like to leave it open for the
user to input. I then give them a button for "Program Administration"
and a bunch of little forms, which are basically prettied-up continuous
forms, to enter these options.

This actually came in handy, on one of my previous programs. Their
"Race" designations were altered, about a year after they began using
the program...asian was split into sub-groups...and they were able to go
in and change this without my help.

I was just wondering whether this is considered acceptable practice, or
if I am being a bit retentive here.

TIA

John W Clark
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From Robert at servicexp.com  Thu Apr 28 19:29:41 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:29:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Possible Causes for #ERROR# in datasheets fields.
In-Reply-To: <PKELKNFMGHIJOGBDMICNMEPADLAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAkFctmauQHEapbETsA84PTMKAAAAQAAAAMr1uxOPAckOGjU59gRnrkQEAAAAA@servicexp.com>


Hello,
 Occasionally, the user will be entering data, and when moving (Tabbing) to
another field they are getting this #ERROR# across all the fields in a
datasheet. Sometimes they are getting this error along with an msg about
someone else has change the current record, but there would be no other
users in the system.

 The only way to get the error to go away is to close the form and re-open.
After which, there is no evidence of any problem.

 It was noted, that is seems to happen more, when the user is entering the
first record to the datasheet dataset.

A2K Split FE/BE

Any Clues?



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 28 19:42:24 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 20:42:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <42720401.28202.2CA7185@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20050429004222.PQBX2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

But they don't apply to a single contact, do they? 

Perhaps it's the contact field that I don't understand. How would these
values apply to a Contact entity? 

Susan H. 

On 28 Apr 2005 at 19:36, Susan Harkins wrote:

> How could a contact be both IssuedTo and IssuedBy? I admit, I'm 
> confused by the purposes of the types. I feel like something's missing.
> 

Quite common in repair shops etc. for Jobs.

You have one master staff list which you use for everything including HRM
and  Job tracking

A job comes in. It is:
a. ReceivedBy - a person on the counter (who puts in in a stack) b. IssuedBy
- a supervisor (who takes it from the stack) c. IssuedTo - a serviceman (who
carries out the work) d. CheckedBy - a supervisor d. ReturnedBy - a person
on the counter.

Each of these is a field in the job record which stores the StaffID.

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 19:52:50 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:52:50 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <20050429004222.PQBX2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <42720401.28202.2CA7185@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42721202.989.3012389@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 28 Apr 2005 at 20:42, Susan Harkins wrote:

> But they don't apply to a single contact, do they? 
> 
> Perhaps it's the contact field that I don't understand. How would these
> values apply to a Contact entity? 
> 

Going back to an earlier expansion of the problem:

<quote>
Yes, the name of a person can fit into any or all categories. The
Contact, Closedby, ReleasedBy, etc call all be the same person.
 </quote>

As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if 
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no 
different in essence IssuedBy etc.





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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Apr 28 20:02:26 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:02:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <42721202.989.3012389@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20050429010224.BNFR1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>


As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no different
in essence IssuedBy etc.

===============OK -- you might be right -- certainly wouldn't want to
complicate the picture unnecessarily. 

Susan H. 



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 28 20:07:48 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:07:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Possible Causes for #ERROR# in datasheets fields.
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAkFctmauQHEapbETsA84PTMKAAAAQAAAAMr1uxOPAckOGjU59gRnrkQEAAAAA@servicexp.com>
Message-ID: <427188E4.3080601@shaw.ca>

Couple of guesses have you turned off subdatasheets on backend table, 
the default is set to on when creating.
Could be OPs series Lock problem if Win 2000 and if both client and 
server not SP3.
http://www.dataaccess.com/whitepapers/opportunlockingreadcaching.html
There is more about it here
http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/tipsindex.htm

Could be a flakey NIC.
I assume A2K is SP3. and Jet SP7 or 8
Compact the back and front end and break then rebuild the links, the 
backend cache can get a lot of garbage in it.

Robert Gracie wrote:

>Hello,
> Occasionally, the user will be entering data, and when moving (Tabbing) to
>another field they are getting this #ERROR# across all the fields in a
>datasheet. Sometimes they are getting this error along with an msg about
>someone else has change the current record, but there would be no other
>users in the system.
>
> The only way to get the error to go away is to close the form and re-open.
>After which, there is no evidence of any problem.
>
> It was noted, that is seems to happen more, when the user is entering the
>first record to the datasheet dataset.
>
>A2K Split FE/BE
>
>Any Clues?
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Robert at servicexp.com  Thu Apr 28 20:15:04 2005
From: Robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:15:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Possible Causes for #ERROR# in datasheets fields.
Message-ID: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4E7C@gbsserver.GBS.local>

Thanks Marty,
 The error is not user, machine or even company specific. Subdatasheets
are turned off. So maybe a locking problem...
 Hmmmmmm

Thanks !!
Robert  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:16 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Possible Causes for #ERROR# in datasheets fields.

Couple of guesses have you turned off subdatasheets on backend table,
the default is set to on when creating.
Could be OPs series Lock problem if Win 2000 and if both client and
server not SP3.
http://www.dataaccess.com/whitepapers/opportunlockingreadcaching.html
There is more about it here
http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/tipsindex.htm

Could be a flakey NIC.
I assume A2K is SP3. and Jet SP7 or 8
Compact the back and front end and break then rebuild the links, the
backend cache can get a lot of garbage in it.

Robert Gracie wrote:

>Hello,
> Occasionally, the user will be entering data, and when moving 
>(Tabbing) to another field they are getting this #ERROR# across all the

>fields in a datasheet. Sometimes they are getting this error along with

>an msg about someone else has change the current record, but there 
>would be no other users in the system.
>
> The only way to get the error to go away is to close the form and
re-open.
>After which, there is no evidence of any problem.
>
> It was noted, that is seems to happen more, when the user is entering 
>the first record to the datasheet dataset.
>
>A2K Split FE/BE
>
>Any Clues?
>
>  
>

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Canada



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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Apr 28 21:08:44 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:08:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT:Friday Humour (or Humor)
In-Reply-To: <20050429010224.BNFR1992.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
References: <42721202.989.3012389@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <427223CC.19664.346A2EB@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

http://www.zippynet.com/pages/bandhmo.htm



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Apr 28 21:13:26 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:13:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
References: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F39@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>
	<b874372a05042813115ef5deb0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42719846.5090404@shaw.ca>

Have you considered converting your tiff's or jpeg's  to compressed pdf 
or djvu format
both maintain the text portion as a secondary layer.
That would reduce their size by a factor of 10.
Even a bi-tonal tiff of a book page would be a 100K, a photo would 3 or 
4 times that

Francisco Tapia wrote:

>yup that's exactly what I ment..
>
>On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
>  
>
>>We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal documentation 
>>(birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store the docs as BLOBs 
>>also.
>>
>>I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture. We 
>>used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves scanned 
>>docs to the BLOB. Until yesterday I was of the belief that we we not storing 
>>the entire BLOB but now it seems we are. I'm assuming that by "entire BLOB" 
>>you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you choose) header and extraneous 
>>data. The consultant had tested the component and assured us that each BLOB 
>>would max at approx. 20K but using the DATALENGTH function James Barash sent 
>>me I see that they are quite a bit larger than expected.
>>
>>Is that what you meant?
>>
>>Jim D.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
>>Tapia
>>Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
>>
>>I don't know...
>>
>>While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin
>>archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center. the 
>>FE
>>is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images inside DBs and 
>>would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and serve it up 
>>via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for uploading so that users 
>>couldn't use that as their personal drive either...
>>
>>what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into the 
>>db?
>>
>>On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB via 
>>>ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in researching 
>>>      
>>>
>>an
>>    
>>
>>>issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when 
>>>      
>>>
>>uploading
>>    
>>
>>>via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions that 
>>>      
>>>
>>there
>>    
>>
>>>is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that 
>>>      
>>>
>>the > ODBC drivers should be used instead.
>>    
>>
>>>My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture 
>>>      
>>>
>>and > all the data access is done via centralized components. I know using 
>>ODBC
>>    
>>
>>>will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection to 
>>>      
>>>
>>the
>>    
>>
>>>database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're 
>>>      
>>>
>>using
>>    
>>
>>>connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of 
>>>      
>>>
>>SQL > specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
>>    
>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>Jim DeMarco
>>>Director of Application Development
>>>Hudson Health Plan
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From reuben at gfconsultants.com  Thu Apr 28 22:37:29 2005
From: reuben at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:37:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] lock data2
In-Reply-To: <001b01c54c35$9503d080$f6c581d5@pedro>
Message-ID: <IDEHKOAFNHAAKHDOFCCCEECOCAAA.reuben@gfconsultants.com>

I have to concern myself with similar issues.

I do this by adding a new record with the new amount and the effective date
(in a one-to-many table) rather than overwriting a single record.
Essentially you will be building a price history for an item.  You will then
use the order date to set the price according to the order date when opening
the order each time.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] lock data2


Hi,

this problem was badly explained, so i will try again.

I have a table in which data about bricks and their prices are stored.
I use this data in a form where the orders of these bricks are stored. The
prices of the bricks are used only as lookup (the price can't be changed by
hand on this form).
The prices in this form are used to make bills by mail merge with word.
When the price of a brick (for example A)  changes and the price in the
table for brick A is will be changed to.
When opening the order form and changing other data in the order for brick A
the original price will be updated with the new price.
How can i prevent this. When i place a order, the price at the date of the
order must stay on the form, even when the price of this brick is changed in
the table.

Pedro Janssen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pedro Janssen" <pedro at plex.nl>
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:21 PM
Subject: [AccessD] lock data


> Hello Group,
>
> i have a form that is using a table to store its data of stone prices.
When the prices in the table changes, the data on the form also changes.
>
> I would like that the prices can not change, after it is places on the
form the first time, when the record is opened.
>
> TIA
>
> Pedro Janssen
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From terry.mace at baesystems.com  Fri Apr 29 00:56:27 2005
From: terry.mace at baesystems.com (MACE, Terry)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:26:27 +0930
Subject: [AccessD] Oracle HTML DB
Message-ID: <3881CF7F5868CA419AAF1179D19F6BAC023567@abw3ex1.au.baesystems.com>

My company is moving to replacing Access97 with Oracle HTML DB. 

Can anyone comment on the pros or cons of Oracle HTML DB? 
Does anyone know how easy it is to migrate existing Access97 data across and
how easy is it to learn to set up front ends in the Oracle environment?

I am self taught on Access97 and understand nearly all of the discussion on
this list. 

Terry Mace 


From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 29 01:15:07 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:15:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] All Computer Names In Network
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA305BB045@ADGSERVER>
	<008701c3b2a0$1dfbd260$0200a8c0@S856>
Message-ID: <4271D0EB.6060507@shaw.ca>

Here is a vbs script to dump all this type of info for a domain via wmi 
into excel using ado, you could rewrite for access vba
Assumes ADS domain

http://www.rlmueller.net/Inventory.htm

or using something like  ADSI

Searches for all computers that begin with the letters, "ATL" in a 
domain and any child domains.
Then, modifies the location attribute of all computers in the result set.

Set objConnection = CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
objConnection.Open "Provider=ADsDSOObject;"
 
Set objCommand = CreateObject("ADODB.Command")
objCommand.ActiveConnection = objConnection
 
objCommand.CommandText = _
    ";" & _
        "(&(objectCategory=Computer)(cn=ATL*));" & _
            "ADsPath;subtree"
 
Set objRecordSet = objCommand.Execute
 
While Not objRecordset.EOF
    strADsPath = objRecordset.Fields("ADsPath")
    Set objComputer = GetObject(strADsPath)
    objComputer.Put "location", "Atlanta, Georgia"
    objComputer.SetInfo
    objRecordSet.MoveNext
Wend
 
WScript.Echo objRecordSet.RecordCount & _
   " computers objects modified."
 
objConnection.Close


Lembit Soobik wrote:

>Does anybody know how to get all computer names in the network?
>thank you
>
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From michael at ddisolutions.com.au  Fri Apr 29 02:51:46 2005
From: michael at ddisolutions.com.au (Michael Maddison)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:51:46 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Oracle HTML DB
Message-ID: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D010E4B35@ddi-01.DDI.local>

Never heard of it till your post.
It appears to ONLY do HTML, using a bunch of wizard type interfaces.

They do have a FAQ on converting from Access.
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/htmldb/pdf/access_to_
htmldb.pdf

They say its for programmers and non programmers!!!  Just like Access
;-)))

"Currently there is no utility to convert an entire Microsoft Access
application to
an Oracle HTML DB application. Since Microsoft Access creates Microsoft
Windows-based applications, many components do not translate directly
into a
Web application.
There is, however, a data migration utility called Oracle Migration
Workbench.
Oracle Migration Workbench simplifies the process of migrating database
systems, like Microsoft Access, to the Oracle database. Using Oracle
Migration
Workbench you can migrate data and database objects, such as tables,
views,
indexes and constraints, to an Oracle database. Once the data and
database
objects are in an Oracle database and HTML DB is installed, it is easy
to turn
these objects into a Web application, allowing users to access and
manipulate
the data."

I've used the migration workbench, it was not easy to setup but I got
the Oracle DB built 
in the end...  This was a couple of years ago...

cheers

Michael M

My company is moving to replacing Access97 with Oracle HTML DB. 

Can anyone comment on the pros or cons of Oracle HTML DB? 
Does anyone know how easy it is to migrate existing Access97 data across
and how easy is it to learn to set up front ends in the Oracle
environment?

I am self taught on Access97 and understand nearly all of the discussion
on this list. 

Terry Mace
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From tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk  Fri Apr 29 03:12:26 2005
From: tom.bolton at donnslaw.co.uk (Tom Bolton)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:12:26 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access 2000 and Terminal Server 2K3
Message-ID: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CBCA@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>

Hi Paul

I'm just coming to the end of a big AXP on terminal services project - I've
been up and down just about every road there is.  If you need help with
anything specific just ask and I'll glady impart any info I've learned.

Cheers
Tom



-----Original Message-----
From: MartyConnelly [mailto:martyconnelly at shaw.ca] 
Sent: 28 April 2005 17:55
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS Access 2000 and Terminal Server 2K3

Here are a series of notes on splitting from Tony Toews with a lot of 
secondary url's
http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/splitapp/index.htm
Best Practices When Using Microsoft Office Access 2003 in a Multi-user 
Environment
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/odc_ac2003_
ta/html/odc_acmultibest.asp

Paul M. Jones wrote:

> Hi Group,
>
> Does anyone know the pros and cons of each user running their own copy 
> of an MS Access FE Vs. having them all run the same FE file from a 
> link?  I know the single FE makes updating the application more 
> difficult since the lock file is created as soon as someone opens the 
> FE.  I'm more seeking information regarding the performance and 
> resource issues.
>
>
> Paul M. Jones
> Spire Services Ltd.
>
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 29 03:58:17 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:58:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
Message-ID: <s2721356.002@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

20K will fit a Letter or A4 sized b/w average document in TIFF with max
compression (CCITT Group 4 Fax compression).

/gustav


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/28 9:42 pm >>>
We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal
documentation (birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store
the docs as BLOBs also.

I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture. 
We used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves
scanned docs to the BLOB.  Until yesterday I was of the belief that we
we not storing the entire BLOB but now it seems we are.  I'm assuming
that by "entire BLOB" you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you choose)
header and extraneous data.  The consultant had tested the component and
assured us that each BLOB would max at approx. 20K but using the
DATALENGTH function James Barash sent me I see that they are quite a bit
larger than expected.

Is that what you meant?

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


I don't know... 

While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin 
archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center.
the FE 
is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images inside DBs
and would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and
serve it up via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for uploading
so that users couldn't use that as their personal drive either...

what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into the
db?



On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> 
> Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB
via > ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in
researching an 
> issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when
uploading 
> via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions
that there 
> is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that
the > ODBC drivers should be used instead.
> 
> My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture
and > all the data access is done via centralized components. I know
using ODBC 
> will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection
to the 
> database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're
using 
> connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of
SQL > specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 29 06:47:42 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:47:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F3F@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

That makes sense because we tested with 8 1/2 by 11" docs.  Maybe our developer is not using the correct compression.

Thanks,

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:58 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


Hi Jim

20K will fit a Letter or A4 sized b/w average document in TIFF with max
compression (CCITT Group 4 Fax compression).

/gustav


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/28 9:42 pm >>>
We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal
documentation (birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store
the docs as BLOBs also.

I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture. 
We used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves
scanned docs to the BLOB.  Until yesterday I was of the belief that we
we not storing the entire BLOB but now it seems we are.  I'm assuming
that by "entire BLOB" you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you choose)
header and extraneous data.  The consultant had tested the component and
assured us that each BLOB would max at approx. 20K but using the
DATALENGTH function James Barash sent me I see that they are quite a bit
larger than expected.

Is that what you meant?

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


I don't know... 

While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin 
archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center.
the FE 
is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images inside DBs
and would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and
serve it up via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for uploading
so that users couldn't use that as their personal drive either...

what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into the
db?



On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> 
> Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB
via > ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in
researching an 
> issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when
uploading 
> via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions
that there 
> is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that
the > ODBC drivers should be used instead.
> 
> My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture
and > all the data access is done via centralized components. I know
using ODBC 
> will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection
to the 
> database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're
using 
> connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of
SQL > specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 29 06:59:33 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:59:33 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
Message-ID: <s2723de1.010@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

I forgot an important parameter: resolution.

20K is achieved with 150 dpi which is just enough for a clearly
readable image. 100 dpi will exclude fine print, while 300 dpi delivers
close to photo copy (Xerox) quality.

/gustav

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/29 1:47 pm >>>
That makes sense because we tested with 8 1/2 by 11" docs.  Maybe our
developer is not using the correct compression.

Thanks,

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:58 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


Hi Jim

20K will fit a Letter or A4 sized b/w average document in TIFF with
max
compression (CCITT Group 4 Fax compression).

/gustav


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/28 9:42 pm >>>
We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal
documentation (birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store
the docs as BLOBs also.

I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture. 
We used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves
scanned docs to the BLOB.  Until yesterday I was of the belief that we
we not storing the entire BLOB but now it seems we are.  I'm assuming
that by "entire BLOB" you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you
choose)
header and extraneous data.  The consultant had tested the component
and
assured us that each BLOB would max at approx. 20K but using the
DATALENGTH function James Barash sent me I see that they are quite a
bit
larger than expected.

Is that what you meant?

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


I don't know... 

While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin 
archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center.
the FE is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images
inside DBs
and would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and
serve it up via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for
uploading
so that users couldn't use that as their personal drive either...

what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into
the
db?


On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> 
> Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB
via 
> ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in
researching an 
> issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when
uploading 
> via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions
that there 
> is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that
the 
> ODBC drivers should be used instead.
> 
> My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture
and 
> all the data access is done via centralized components. I know using
ODBC 
> will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection
to the 
> database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're
using 
> connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of
SQL 
> specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan



From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Fri Apr 29 07:17:20 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:17:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE8B@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

I am getting the fields from a form they complete. It is for a fire
permit. The contact is the Responsible Person Contacted. He might also
issue the permit (IssuedTo) to himself (IssuedBy).
 
Anyway, I have:
Main table (tbl_Permit) that has the ContactID, IssuedToID, etc.
tbl_Type - TypeID, NameType
tbl_PermitNames - PermitNamesID, PermitNames
tbl_NameType - NameTypeID, TypeID, PermitNamesID
 
Do I join each one from tbl_Permit (ContactID, etc) to tbl_NameType
NameTypeID?
 
I still don't see how to create it on the form & reports so the drop
down boxes will know which type it is?
 
 
***************
As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no
different
in essence IssuedBy etc.
 
===============OK -- you might be right -- certainly wouldn't want to
complicate the picture unnecessarily. 
 
Susan H. 
 

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 29 07:31:24 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:31:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAE8B@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050429123122.JXPZ2058.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

So contact isn't the entity then -- the permit is the entity? 

Susan H. 

I am getting the fields from a form they complete. It is for a fire permit.
The contact is the Responsible Person Contacted. He might also issue the
permit (IssuedTo) to himself (IssuedBy).
 
Anyway, I have:
Main table (tbl_Permit) that has the ContactID, IssuedToID, etc.
tbl_Type - TypeID, NameType
tbl_PermitNames - PermitNamesID, PermitNames tbl_NameType - NameTypeID,
TypeID, PermitNamesID
 
Do I join each one from tbl_Permit (ContactID, etc) to tbl_NameType
NameTypeID?
 
I still don't see how to create it on the form & reports so the drop down
boxes will know which type it is?
 
 
***************
As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no different
in essence IssuedBy etc.
 
===============OK -- you might be right -- certainly wouldn't want to
complicate the picture unnecessarily. 
 
Susan H. 
 

 

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Apr 29 08:17:02 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:17:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2FE5@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I've got a MANUAL IBM card puncher at home somewhere. It takes one 80 column
card and there's a stylus (attached by a string) with which to punch out the
holes!

Now if only I could find a card reader to go with it...

Lambert

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [SMTP:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
> Sent:	Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:01 PM
> To:	'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject:	RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
> 
> No abacus but I still have my slide rule. :-)
> Jim Hale
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg]
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:48 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K - Adding decimal error
> 
> 
> On 28 Apr 2005 at 14:21, Hale, Jim wrote:
> 
> > And for some of us the last class was when COBOL and  fortan were
> cutting
> > edge and transistors on silicon had not yet replaced magnetic core...:-)
> > Jim Hale
> > 
> 
> Uh-oh, here it comes again....
> I had to carve my own abacus..... :-)
> 
> (Well, it is Friday alreay here in PNG)
> 
> 
> 
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 29 08:40:01 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:40:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F44@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Thanks Marty.

Are this high quality formats?  We have to print clear copies and the electronic docs are subject to gov't audits so clarity and quality are an issue.

Jim D.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:13 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


Have you considered converting your tiff's or jpeg's  to compressed pdf 
or djvu format
both maintain the text portion as a secondary layer.
That would reduce their size by a factor of 10.
Even a bi-tonal tiff of a book page would be a 100K, a photo would 3 or 
4 times that

Francisco Tapia wrote:

>yup that's exactly what I ment..
>
>On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
>  
>
>>We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal documentation 
>>(birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store the docs as BLOBs 
>>also.
>>
>>I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture. We >>used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves scanned >>docs to the BLOB. Until yesterday I was of the belief that we we not storing 
>>the entire BLOB but now it seems we are. I'm assuming that by "entire BLOB" 
>>you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you choose) header and extraneous >>data. The consultant had tested the component and assured us that each BLOB 
>>would max at approx. 20K but using the DATALENGTH function James Barash sent 
>>me I see that they are quite a bit larger than expected.
>>
>>Is that what you meant?
>>
>>Jim D.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
>>Tapia
>>Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
>>
>>I don't know...
>>
>>While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin
>>archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center. the >>FE
>>is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images inside DBs and >>would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and serve it up 
>>via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for uploading so that users 
>>couldn't use that as their personal drive either...
>>
>>what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into the >>db?
>>
>>On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB via >>>ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in researching 
>>>      
>>>
>>an
>>    
>>
>>>issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when 
>>>      
>>>
>>uploading
>>    
>>
>>>via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions that >>>      
>>>
>>there
>>    
>>
>>>is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that 
>>>      
>>>
>>the > ODBC drivers should be used instead.
>>    
>>
>>>My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture 
>>>      
>>>
>>and > all the data access is done via centralized components. I know using 
>>ODBC
>>    
>>
>>>will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection to >>>      
>>>
>>the
>>    
>>
>>>database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're 
>>>      
>>>
>>using
>>    
>>
>>>connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of 
>>>      
>>>
>>SQL > specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
>>    
>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>Jim DeMarco
>>>Director of Application Development
>>>Hudson Health Plan
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Apr 29 09:07:38 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:07:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Friday Humour
In-Reply-To: <59A61174B1F5B54B97FD4ADDE71E7D010E4B35@ddi-01.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <0IFP00D1TOKPYG@l-daemon>

What is going on in Germany? Would this the start of a cross-species
epidemic?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/28/exploding_german_toads/

Jim



From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 29 10:14:18 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:14:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F48@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

An important parameter actually.  We need relatively high res as I mentioned earlier.

Thanks,

Jim D

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:00 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


Hi Jim

I forgot an important parameter: resolution.

20K is achieved with 150 dpi which is just enough for a clearly
readable image. 100 dpi will exclude fine print, while 300 dpi delivers
close to photo copy (Xerox) quality.

/gustav

>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/29 1:47 pm >>>
That makes sense because we tested with 8 1/2 by 11" docs.  Maybe our
developer is not using the correct compression.

Thanks,

Jim D.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 4:58 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


Hi Jim

20K will fit a Letter or A4 sized b/w average document in TIFF with
max
compression (CCITT Group 4 Fax compression).

/gustav


>>> Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org 04/28 9:42 pm >>>
We had security issues as well since we're scanning personal
documentation (birth certs, ssn's, etc.) which is how we came to store
the docs as BLOBs also.

I didn't write the app but was heavily involved in the architecture. 
We used a consulting firm to create a scanning component that saves
scanned docs to the BLOB.  Until yesterday I was of the belief that we
we not storing the entire BLOB but now it seems we are.  I'm assuming
that by "entire BLOB" you mean TIFF (or whatever file format you
choose)
header and extraneous data.  The consultant had tested the component
and
assured us that each BLOB would max at approx. 20K but using the
DATALENGTH function James Barash sent me I see that they are quite a
bit
larger than expected.

Is that what you meant?

Jim D.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Francisco
Tapia
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OLEDB vs ODBC


I don't know... 

While on this topic.... one of the department managers wants to begin 
archiving photo's with calls received in our customer support center.
the FE is an Access ADP, and generally i'm against storing images
inside DBs
and would rather "upload" the image to a location on the server and
serve it up via Access but I'd need to restrict the folder for
uploading
so that users couldn't use that as their personal drive either...

what method are you using Jim or do you Upload the entire BLOB into
the
db?


On 4/28/05, Jim DeMarco <Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org> wrote:
> 
> Here's a good one for you. M$ has long been telling us to use OLEDB
via 
> ADO to access our SQL data. We've been doing just that and in
researching an 
> issue where some BLOB image data is pegging our server CPUs when
uploading 
> via remote network connections I found a KB article that mentions
that there 
> is a bug in the way OLEDB handles large amounts of BLOB data and that
the 
> ODBC drivers should be used instead.
> 
> My question: Our application (thankfully) uses an n-tier architecture
and 
> all the data access is done via centralized components. I know using
ODBC 
> will require modding the connect string. Once we've got a connection
to the 
> database via ODBC will our existing ADO OLEDB code break? AFAIK we're
using 
> connection objects, recordsets and command objects. Is there a lot of
SQL 
> specificity in the way we would access these objects using OLEDB?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jim DeMarco
> Director of Application Development
> Hudson Health Plan

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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Fri Apr 29 10:21:20 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:21:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAEA5@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

Yes. The fields are all related to a fire permit. The contact is just
someone they call if they have questions on the permit. A building may
need a fire permit. It is just a contact person (a reference point for
the permit) like a customer. But if the fireman is out & needs to write
the permit he would be a contact person & the issuer & close the permit.
 
So it is no different than the IssuedBy, etc. It is just a person.
 
***************
So contact isn't the entity then -- the permit is the entity? 
 
Susan H. 
 
I am getting the fields from a form they complete. It is for a fire
permit.
The contact is the Responsible Person Contacted. He might also issue the
permit (IssuedTo) to himself (IssuedBy).
 
Anyway, I have:
Main table (tbl_Permit) that has the ContactID, IssuedToID, etc.
tbl_Type - TypeID, NameType
tbl_PermitNames - PermitNamesID, PermitNames tbl_NameType - NameTypeID,
TypeID, PermitNamesID
 
Do I join each one from tbl_Permit (ContactID, etc) to tbl_NameType
NameTypeID?
 
I still don't see how to create it on the form & reports so the drop
down
boxes will know which type it is?
 
 
***************
As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no
different
in essence IssuedBy etc.
 
===============OK -- you might be right -- certainly wouldn't want to
complicate the picture unnecessarily. 
 
Susan H. 

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 29 10:24:52 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:24:52 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAEA5@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050429152450.KMPY1994.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

And each fire permit will have only one contact, one IssuedBy, one so on for
all the types, right? If this is the case, I agree with Stuart. 

However, you might want to maintain a types table just the same -- to
control what the users enter. Are they entering a person's name, an id
number? Or what? That's why I suggested the separate types table. I don't
know what you're entering -- it maybe as simple as a Yes/No field, but if
you're referring to a name or entity, then where's that value coming from? 

Susan H. 

Yes. The fields are all related to a fire permit. The contact is just
someone they call if they have questions on the permit. A building may need
a fire permit. It is just a contact person (a reference point for the
permit) like a customer. But if the fireman is out & needs to write the
permit he would be a contact person & the issuer & close the permit.
 
So it is no different than the IssuedBy, etc. It is just a person.
 
***************
So contact isn't the entity then -- the permit is the entity? 
 
Susan H. 
 
I am getting the fields from a form they complete. It is for a fire permit.
The contact is the Responsible Person Contacted. He might also issue the
permit (IssuedTo) to himself (IssuedBy).
 
Anyway, I have:
Main table (tbl_Permit) that has the ContactID, IssuedToID, etc.
tbl_Type - TypeID, NameType
tbl_PermitNames - PermitNamesID, PermitNames tbl_NameType - NameTypeID,
TypeID, PermitNamesID
 
Do I join each one from tbl_Permit (ContactID, etc) to tbl_NameType
NameTypeID?
 
I still don't see how to create it on the form & reports so the drop down
boxes will know which type it is?
 
 
***************
As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no different
in essence IssuedBy etc.
 
===============OK -- you might be right -- certainly wouldn't want to
complicate the picture unnecessarily. 
 
Susan H. 

 

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From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 10:35:21 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:35:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
Message-ID: <5f2de2420504290835478908a3@mail.gmail.com>

Group,

I have a stored parameter query where the parameters are taken from 2
controls on a form...this part works great.  The query field is a date
field and the form controls contain the "Start Date" and "End Date"
with the parameter for that field listed as:

Between [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text14] And [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text16]

I have a report based on this query which I can run directly from this
form...this part also works great.

Now the question.  From that same form I want to press a button which
will take the results of that parameter query and put it into an Excel
spreadsheet.  Can someone point me in the right direction to fill in
the missing syntax at or around line 4?

1.        Set db = CurrentDb
2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
3. ==> ?
4.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
5. ==> ?
6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
10.        objXLApp.Visible = True
11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults

At the moment I am getting error 3061 on line 4: "Too few parameters.
Expected 2."  Could this be a problem with scope?  The code above is
in a separate module and is called by the Form code...is this a
problem?


Thank you for any suggestions,

Mark Mitsules


From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr 29 10:40:57 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:40:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT:Friday Humour (or Humor)
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3EA@main2.marlow.com>

Pretty funny....never realized how dangerous water is! LOL

Drew

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From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg]
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT:Friday Humour (or Humor)


http://www.zippynet.com/pages/bandhmo.htm



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Apr 29 10:50:23 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:50:23 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] :) 
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739C9@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Me, too Stuart, in both SQL Server and Access.  It's the only approach
that makes any sense to me.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] :) 


On 28 Apr 2005 at 7:47, Susan Harkins wrote:

> http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-10585_11-5671055.html?tag=nl.e101
>  
That's what I've always done - it's so obvious, I'm surprised to learn
that 
it's not the usual method.









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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Apr 29 10:51:33 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:51:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337571@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

If you don't laugh out loud at this one, call the morgue and reserve a tray,
because you're dead!!!!!!
Always wear clean underwear in public especially when working under your
vehicle ..
From the JUPITER FLORIDA Daily News comes this story of a Crestview couple
who drove their car to Wal-Mart, only to have their car break down in the
parking lot. The man told his wife to carry on with the shopping while he
fixed the car in the lot.
The wife returned later to see a small group of people near the car. On
closer inspection, she saw a pair of male legs protruding from under the
chassis. Although the man was in shorts, his lack of underpants turned
private parts into glaringly public ones.
Unable to stand the embarrassment, she dutifully stepped forward, quickly
put her hand UP his shorts, and tucked everything back into place. On
regaining her feet, she looked across the hood and found herself staring at
her husband who was standing idly by.
The mechanic, however, had to have three stitches in his forehead.


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Apr 29 10:55:15 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:55:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739CA@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Wen you handle a querydef like that in code, you have to pass the
parameter values in the code.  You can't rely on a form, even if it is
open.  So in your code, pass the value of Text14 and the value of Text16
into the parameters like this:  

qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16

Then open your recordset.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Admin Sparky [mailto:dba.email at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:35 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code


Group,

I have a stored parameter query where the parameters are taken from 2
controls on a form...this part works great.  The query field is a date
field and the form controls contain the "Start Date" and "End Date" with
the parameter for that field listed as:

Between [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text14] And
[Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text16]

I have a report based on this query which I can run directly from this
form...this part also works great.

Now the question.  From that same form I want to press a button which
will take the results of that parameter query and put it into an Excel
spreadsheet.  Can someone point me in the right direction to fill in the
missing syntax at or around line 4?

1.        Set db = CurrentDb
2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
3. ==> ?
4.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
5. ==> ?
6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
10.        objXLApp.Visible = True
11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults

At the moment I am getting error 3061 on line 4: "Too few parameters.
Expected 2."  Could this be a problem with scope?  The code above is in
a separate module and is called by the Form code...is this a problem?


Thank you for any suggestions,

Mark Mitsules
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Apr 29 11:01:41 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:01:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <8110337.1114789576537.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAGK2Ys8VT8EKj9Q17fqP93gEAAAAA@usinternet.com>

Mark,

I use this function to create the spreadsheet.

    DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acExport, , "qryMyQuery", _
        stgFolderName & stgSpreadsheetName


I use this code to create a folder on the user's PC to put the spreadsheet
into:

    Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
    stgFolderName = "C:\" & SystemAcronym & "\"
    If fso.FolderExists(stgFolderName) = False Then
        fso.CreateFolder (stgFolderName)
    End If
    stgFolderName = "C:\" & SystemAcronym & "\Spreadsheets\"
    If fso.FolderExists(stgFolderName) = False Then
        fso.CreateFolder (stgFolderName)
    End If
    Set fso = Nothing


Hope this helps!

Dan Waters


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Admin Sparky
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:35 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code

Group,

I have a stored parameter query where the parameters are taken from 2
controls on a form...this part works great.  The query field is a date
field and the form controls contain the "Start Date" and "End Date"
with the parameter for that field listed as:

Between [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text14] And
[Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text16]

I have a report based on this query which I can run directly from this
form...this part also works great.

Now the question.  From that same form I want to press a button which
will take the results of that parameter query and put it into an Excel
spreadsheet.  Can someone point me in the right direction to fill in
the missing syntax at or around line 4?

1.        Set db = CurrentDb
2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
3. ==> ?
4.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
5. ==> ?
6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
10.        objXLApp.Visible = True
11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults

At the moment I am getting error 3061 on line 4: "Too few parameters.
Expected 2."  Could this be a problem with scope?  The code above is
in a separate module and is called by the Form code...is this a
problem?


Thank you for any suggestions,

Mark Mitsules
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From HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com  Fri Apr 29 11:24:45 2005
From: HollisVJ at pgdp.usec.com (Hollis,Virginia)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:24:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
Message-ID: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAEAA@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>

Only one of everyone (one IssuedBy, one Contact, etc).
 
They are entering the name of the person (just first & last name is all
that is needed).
 
The names are in a table of names.
 
How do I get it to show the different types (roles) for the person in a
form or report? If they enter the name of a person in a field what makes
it assigned to that field? I need to show which group they belong to
when I put the different fields on a report.
 
 
*****************
And each fire permit will have only one contact, one IssuedBy, one so on
for
all the types, right? If this is the case, I agree with Stuart. 
 
However, you might want to maintain a types table just the same -- to
control what the users enter. Are they entering a person's name, an id
number? Or what? That's why I suggested the separate types table. I
don't
know what you're entering -- it maybe as simple as a Yes/No field, but
if
you're referring to a name or entity, then where's that value coming
from? 
 
Susan H. 
 
Yes. The fields are all related to a fire permit. The contact is just
someone they call if they have questions on the permit. A building may
need
a fire permit. It is just a contact person (a reference point for the
permit) like a customer. But if the fireman is out & needs to write the
permit he would be a contact person & the issuer & close the permit.
 
So it is no different than the IssuedBy, etc. It is just a person.
 
***************
So contact isn't the entity then -- the permit is the entity? 
 
Susan H. 
 
I am getting the fields from a form they complete. It is for a fire
permit.
The contact is the Responsible Person Contacted. He might also issue the
permit (IssuedTo) to himself (IssuedBy).
 
Anyway, I have:
Main table (tbl_Permit) that has the ContactID, IssuedToID, etc.
tbl_Type - TypeID, NameType
tbl_PermitNames - PermitNamesID, PermitNames tbl_NameType - NameTypeID,
TypeID, PermitNamesID
 
Do I join each one from tbl_Permit (ContactID, etc) to tbl_NameType
NameTypeID?
 
I still don't see how to create it on the form & reports so the drop
down
boxes will know which type it is?
 
 
***************
As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no
different
in essence IssuedBy etc.
 
===============OK -- you might be right -- certainly wouldn't want to
complicate the picture unnecessarily. 
 
Susan H. 
 

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 29 11:27:49 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:27:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Table of Names
In-Reply-To: <33A641EC7227B54886E0B44E698470391CAEAA@hqexchange.hq.corp.usec.com>
Message-ID: <20050429162747.BNOO2063.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Virginia, why don't you zip it up and send it to me at
ssharkins at bellsouth.net. 

Susan H. 

Only one of everyone (one IssuedBy, one Contact, etc).
 
They are entering the name of the person (just first & last name is all that
is needed).
 
The names are in a table of names.
 
How do I get it to show the different types (roles) for the person in a form
or report? If they enter the name of a person in a field what makes it
assigned to that field? I need to show which group they belong to when I put
the different fields on a report.
 
 
*****************
And each fire permit will have only one contact, one IssuedBy, one so on for
all the types, right? If this is the case, I agree with Stuart. 
 
However, you might want to maintain a types table just the same -- to
control what the users enter. Are they entering a person's name, an id
number? Or what? That's why I suggested the separate types table. I don't
know what you're entering -- it maybe as simple as a Yes/No field, but if
you're referring to a name or entity, then where's that value coming from? 
 
Susan H. 
 
Yes. The fields are all related to a fire permit. The contact is just
someone they call if they have questions on the permit. A building may need
a fire permit. It is just a contact person (a reference point for the
permit) like a customer. But if the fireman is out & needs to write the
permit he would be a contact person & the issuer & close the permit.
 
So it is no different than the IssuedBy, etc. It is just a person.
 
***************
So contact isn't the entity then -- the permit is the entity? 
 
Susan H. 
 
I am getting the fields from a form they complete. It is for a fire permit.
The contact is the Responsible Person Contacted. He might also issue the
permit (IssuedTo) to himself (IssuedBy).
 
Anyway, I have:
Main table (tbl_Permit) that has the ContactID, IssuedToID, etc.
tbl_Type - TypeID, NameType
tbl_PermitNames - PermitNamesID, PermitNames tbl_NameType - NameTypeID,
TypeID, PermitNamesID
 
Do I join each one from tbl_Permit (ContactID, etc) to tbl_NameType
NameTypeID?
 
I still don't see how to create it on the form & reports so the drop down
boxes will know which type it is?
 
 
***************
As I understand it, Contact is just the name of the person to contact if
there are any queries about whatever it is being tracked. It is no different
in essence IssuedBy etc.
 
===============OK -- you might be right -- certainly wouldn't want to
complicate the picture unnecessarily. 
 
Susan H. 
 

 

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From kens.programming at verizon.net  Fri Apr 29 11:59:46 2005
From: kens.programming at verizon.net (kens.programming)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:59:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337571@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <0IFP00EKUWEI2CZ5@vms046.mailsrvcs.net>

I did laugh.  It would also help to remember what your spouse is wearing.  

Ken

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:52 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true

If you don't laugh out loud at this one, call the morgue and reserve a tray,
because you're dead!!!!!!
Always wear clean underwear in public especially when working under your
vehicle ..
>From the JUPITER FLORIDA Daily News comes this story of a Crestview couple
who drove their car to Wal-Mart, only to have their car break down in the
parking lot. The man told his wife to carry on with the shopping while he
fixed the car in the lot.
The wife returned later to see a small group of people near the car. On
closer inspection, she saw a pair of male legs protruding from under the
chassis. Although the man was in shorts, his lack of underpants turned
private parts into glaringly public ones.
Unable to stand the embarrassment, she dutifully stepped forward, quickly
put her hand UP his shorts, and tucked everything back into place. On
regaining her feet, she looked across the hood and found herself staring at
her husband who was standing idly by.
The mechanic, however, had to have three stitches in his forehead.


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From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 12:02:27 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:02:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739CA@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA868739CA@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <5f2de24205042910022174b518@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Charlotte, that worked, but I'm still not getting past line
5...I'm now getting "Type mismatch (Error 13)".

1.        Set db = CurrentDb
2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16
5.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
10.      objXLApp.Visible = True
11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults

Mark Mitsules



On 4/29/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> Wen you handle a querydef like that in code, you have to pass the
> parameter values in the code.  You can't rely on a form, even if it is
> open.  So in your code, pass the value of Text14 and the value of Text16
> into the parameters like this:
> 
> qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
> qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16
> 
> Then open your recordset.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Admin Sparky [mailto:dba.email at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:35 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
> 
> Group,
> 
> I have a stored parameter query where the parameters are taken from 2
> controls on a form...this part works great.  The query field is a date
> field and the form controls contain the "Start Date" and "End Date" with
> the parameter for that field listed as:
> 
> Between [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text14] And
> [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text16]
> 
> I have a report based on this query which I can run directly from this
> form...this part also works great.
> 
> Now the question.  From that same form I want to press a button which
> will take the results of that parameter query and put it into an Excel
> spreadsheet.  Can someone point me in the right direction to fill in the
> missing syntax at or around line 4?
> 
> 1.        Set db = CurrentDb
> 2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
> 3. ==> ?
> 4.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
> 5. ==> ?
> 6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
> 7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
> 8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
> 9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
> 10.        objXLApp.Visible = True
> 11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
> 12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
> 13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults
> 
> At the moment I am getting error 3061 on line 4: "Too few parameters.
> Expected 2."  Could this be a problem with scope?  The code above is in
> a separate module and is called by the Form code...is this a problem?
> 
> Thank you for any suggestions,
> 
> Mark Mitsules
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From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 12:07:01 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:07:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAK4WSxHXjwRGcmS5OXeU7iMKAAAAQAAAAGK2Ys8VT8EKj9Q17fqP93gEAAAAA@usinternet.com>
References: <8110337.1114789576537.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
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Message-ID: <5f2de24205042910071d7bf861@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the suggestion Dan.  In this case however, it is an
existing spreadsheet with existing charts that have been developed. 
I'm just trying to automate the updating of the chart's data range
with the latest data from the query on demand.


Mark Mitsules


On 4/29/05, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:
> Mark,
> 
> I use this function to create the spreadsheet.
> 
>    DoCmd.TransferSpreadsheet acExport, , "qryMyQuery", _
>        stgFolderName & stgSpreadsheetName
> 
> I use this code to create a folder on the user's PC to put the spreadsheet
> into:
> 
>    Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
>    stgFolderName = "C:\" & SystemAcronym & "\"
>    If fso.FolderExists(stgFolderName) = False Then
>        fso.CreateFolder (stgFolderName)
>    End If
>    stgFolderName = "C:\" & SystemAcronym & "\Spreadsheets\"
>    If fso.FolderExists(stgFolderName) = False Then
>        fso.CreateFolder (stgFolderName)
>    End If
>    Set fso = Nothing
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> Dan Waters
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Admin Sparky
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:35 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
> 
> Group,
> 
> I have a stored parameter query where the parameters are taken from 2
> controls on a form...this part works great.  The query field is a date
> field and the form controls contain the "Start Date" and "End Date"
> with the parameter for that field listed as:
> 
> Between [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text14] And
> [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text16]
> 
> I have a report based on this query which I can run directly from this
> form...this part also works great.
> 
> Now the question.  From that same form I want to press a button which
> will take the results of that parameter query and put it into an Excel
> spreadsheet.  Can someone point me in the right direction to fill in
> the missing syntax at or around line 4?
> 
> 1.        Set db = CurrentDb
> 2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
> 3. ==> ?
> 4.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
> 5. ==> ?
> 6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
> 7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
> 8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
> 9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
> 10.        objXLApp.Visible = True
> 11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
> 12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
> 13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults
> 
> At the moment I am getting error 3061 on line 4: "Too few parameters.
> Expected 2."  Could this be a problem with scope?  The code above is
> in a separate module and is called by the Form code...is this a
> problem?
> 
> Thank you for any suggestions,
> 
> Mark Mitsules
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From pjones at btl.net  Fri Apr 29 12:02:38 2005
From: pjones at btl.net (Paul M. Jones)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:02:38 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access 2000 and Terminal Server 2K3
In-Reply-To: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CBCA@dibble.observator
	y.donnslaw.co.uk>
References: <61F915314798D311A2F800A0C9C831880731CBCA@dibble.observatory.donnslaw.co.uk>
Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050429105700.02938d48@pop.btl.net>

Thanks for the offer Tom.
My situation is such:  I have an A2K application that talks to a SQL Server 
database.  Currently I have one (1) .mde front end on a Windows 2K3 
Terminal server.  All TS users have a link to that .mde on their 
desktop.  I have been toying with the idea of placing a copy of the .mde 
file for each user to run independently.  Apart from the issue of the 
ability to update the .mde front end, do you know if there are any major 
issues of one approach over the next, particularly from a system 
performance standpoint?

Paul

At 02:12 AM 4/29/2005, you wrote:
>Hi Paul
>
>I'm just coming to the end of a big AXP on terminal services project - I've
>been up and down just about every road there is.  If you need help with
>anything specific just ask and I'll glady impart any info I've learned.
>
>Cheers
>Tom


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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Apr 29 12:14:07 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:14:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337571@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKIECEFDAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

LOL. That was great Jim! Here's my contribution: ( a bit long)

Mel finally decides to take a vacation. He books himself on a Caribbean
cruise and proceeds to have the time of his life, until the boat sinks.
Mel finds himself swept up on the shore of an island with no other people,
no supplies, nothing. He has only bananas and coconuts.

After about four months, Mel is lying on the beach one day when the most
gorgeous woman Mel has ever seen rows up to him. In disbelief, Mel asks her,
"Where did you come from? How did you get here?"

"I rowed from the other side of the island," she says. "I landed here when
my cruise ship sank."

"Amazing," Mel says. "You were really lucky to have a row boat wash up with
you."

"Oh, this?" replies the woman. "I made the rowboat out of raw materials I
found on the island. The oars were whittled from gum tree branches, I wove
the bottom from palm branches, and the sides and stern came from a
Eucalyptus tree."

"But-but, that's impossible," stutters Mel. "You had no tools or hardware.
How did you manage?"

"Oh, that was no problem," replies the woman. "On the south side of the
island, there is a very unusual strata of alluvial rock exposed. I found if
I fired it to a certain temperature in my kiln, it melted into forgeable
ductile iron. I used that for tools and used the tools to make the
hardware."

 Mel is stunned.

"Let's row over to my place," she says.

After an hour or so of rowing, she docks the boat at a small wharf. As Mel
looks on to shore, Mel nearly falls out of the boat. Before him is a stone
walk leading to an exquisite bungalow painted in blue and white. While the
woman ties up the rowboat with an expertly woven hemp rope, Mel could only
stare ahead, dumbstruck.

As they walk into the house, she says casually, "It's not much, but I call
it home. Sit down please. Would you like to have a drink?"

"No, no thank you," Mel says, still dazed. "I can't take any more coconut
juice."

"It's not coconut juice," the woman replies. "I have a still. How about a
Pina Colada?"

Trying to hide his continued amazement, Mel accepts, and they sit down on
her couch to talk. After they have exchanged their stories, the woman
announces, "I'm going to slip into something more comfortable. Would you
like to take a shower and shave? There is a razor upstairs in the cabinet in
the bathroom."

No longer questioning anything, Mel goes into the bathroom. There, in the
cabinet, is a razor made from a bone handle. Two shells honed to a hollow
ground edge are fastened onto its end inside of a swivel mechanism. "Wow!
This woman is amazing," Mel muses. "What next?"

When Mel returns, she greets him wearing nothing but vines, strategically
positioned, and smelling faintly of gardenias. She beckons for him to sit
down next to her.

"Tell me," she begins suggestively, slithering closer to him, "We've been
out here for a really long time. You've been lonely. There's something I'm
sure you really feel like doing right now, something you've been longing for
all these months. You know..." She stares into his eyes. Mel can't believe
what he's hearing:

"You mean", he swallows excitedly, "I can actually check my e-mail from
here?"



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 29 12:11:29 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 19:11:29 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
Message-ID: <s2728705.015@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

Those textboxes probably contain dates:

3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = "#" & Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14 &
"#"
4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = "#" & Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16 &
"#"

You may even need to format these to US date format:

3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = "#" &
Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"
4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = "#" &
Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"

/gustav


>>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 7:02 pm >>>
Thank you Charlotte, that worked, but I'm still not getting past line
5...I'm now getting "Type mismatch (Error 13)".

1.        Set db = CurrentDb
2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16
5.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
10.      objXLApp.Visible = True
11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults

Mark Mitsules



On 4/29/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> Wen you handle a querydef like that in code, you have to pass the
> parameter values in the code.  You can't rely on a form, even if it
is
> open.  So in your code, pass the value of Text14 and the value of
Text16
> into the parameters like this:
> 
> qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
> qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16
> 
> Then open your recordset.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Admin Sparky [mailto:dba.email at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:35 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
> 
> Group,
> 
> I have a stored parameter query where the parameters are taken from
2
> controls on a form...this part works great.  The query field is a
date
> field and the form controls contain the "Start Date" and "End Date"
with
> the parameter for that field listed as:
> 
> Between [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text14] And
> [Forms]![frmDatePicker]![Text16]
> 
> I have a report based on this query which I can run directly from
this
> form...this part also works great.
> 
> Now the question.  From that same form I want to press a button
which
> will take the results of that parameter query and put it into an
Excel
> spreadsheet.  Can someone point me in the right direction to fill in
the
> missing syntax at or around line 4?
> 
> 1.        Set db = CurrentDb
> 2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
> 3. ==> ?
> 4.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
> 5. ==> ?
> 6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
> 7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
> 8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
> 9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
> 10.        objXLApp.Visible = True
> 11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
> 12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
> 13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults
> 
> At the moment I am getting error 3061 on line 4: "Too few
parameters.
> Expected 2."  Could this be a problem with scope?  The code above is
in
> a separate module and is called by the Form code...is this a
problem?



From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Apr 29 12:17:25 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:17:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT Joke
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337571@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKMECEFDAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

These days, it is hard to find a joke today without a dirty word or two in
it, but here is one:

Two tall trees, a birch and a beech, are growing in the woods. A small tree
begins to grow between them, and the beech says to the birch, "Is that a son
of a beech or a son of a birch?"

The birch says he cannot tell.

Just then a woodpecker lands on the sapling.  The birch says, "Woodpecker,
you are a tree expert. Can you tell if that is a son of a beech or a son of
a birch?"

The woodpecker takes a taste of the small tree. He replies, "It is neither a
son of a beech nor a son of a birch. It is, however, the best piece of ash I
have ever put my pecker in."



From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Fri Apr 29 12:39:08 2005
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:39:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] UNION query bug?
Message-ID: <002001c54ce2$592f0220$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

I thought that a union query (Access 97) combines the results of 2 or more queries  For example:

qryC = SELECT * FROM qryA UNION SELECT * FROM qryB;

qryA contains 1 row and qryB contains 1 row.  qryC should always produce 2 rows??

qryA contains 3 fields (Purchase Order#, Cost Acct#, Amount) from tblA
qryB contains the same 3 fields (Purchase Order#, Cost Acct#, Amount) from tblB

If the data is the same in qryA and qryB, qryC contains only 1 row.

If this is not a bug, how do I force qryC to produce 2 rows?  In my situation, qryA contains information about per diem costs and qryB contains information about bonuses, mobilization/demob costs, etc.  I need to sum these costs.  This is usually not a problem since the amounts are usually different

Thanks,
Barb Ryan



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Fri Apr 29 12:44:00 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:44:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] UNION query bug?
In-Reply-To: <002001c54ce2$592f0220$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>
Message-ID: <20050429174358.HFLC2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Try UNION ALL. UNION omits duplicates. 

Susan H. 
If this is not a bug, how do I force qryC to produce 2 rows?  In my
situation, qryA contains information about per diem costs and qryB contains
information about bonuses, mobilization/demob costs, etc.  I need to sum
these costs.  This is usually not a problem since the amounts are usually
different




From BarbaraRyan at cox.net  Fri Apr 29 12:50:28 2005
From: BarbaraRyan at cox.net (Barbara Ryan)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:50:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] UNION query bug?
References: <20050429174358.HFLC2434.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <002701c54ce3$ee495e40$0a00a8c0@cx470148a>

Thanks, Susan!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] UNION query bug?


> Try UNION ALL. UNION omits duplicates.
>
> Susan H.
> If this is not a bug, how do I force qryC to produce 2 rows?  In my
> situation, qryA contains information about per diem costs and qryB
contains
> information about bonuses, mobilization/demob costs, etc.  I need to sum
> these costs.  This is usually not a problem since the amounts are usually
> different
>
>
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From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 12:58:22 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:58:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <s2728705.015@cactus.dk>
References: <s2728705.015@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <5f2de242050429105830b6d74b@mail.gmail.com>

Well now...that was interesting...now I get a very specific message:
"Data type mismatch in criteria expression."

When viewed in the Locals window the first parameter value is "#10/1/2004#".
Prior to this run, it read "10/1/2004".  In both cases the Type is
listed as Variant/String.

I'm wondering if the problem is the quotes.  For instance, another
property for qdfMetrics is DateCreated.  The value for DateCreated
contains no quotes it reads: #4/28/2005 12:46:53 PM#, and the Type is
listed as Variant/Date.

I tried this:
qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)
...but the Type was still listed as Variant/String with a value of
"10/1/2004".


...frustratingly yours,


Mark Mitsules




On 4/29/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Mark
> 
> Those textboxes probably contain dates:
> 
> 3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = "#" & Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14 &
> "#"
> 4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = "#" & Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16 &
> "#"
> 
> You may even need to format these to US date format:
> 
> 3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = "#" &
> Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"
> 4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = "#" &
> Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 7:02 pm >>>
> Thank you Charlotte, that worked, but I'm still not getting past line
> 5...I'm now getting "Type mismatch (Error 13)".
> 
> 1.        Set db = CurrentDb
> 2.        Set qdfMetrics = db.QueryDefs("qryMyQuery")
> 3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
> 4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16
> 5.        Set rstMetrics = qdfMetrics.OpenRecordset(dbReadOnly)
> 6.        varResults = rstMetrics.GetRows(rstMetrics.RecordCount)
> 7.        Set objXLBook = GetObject(cXLPath & cXLFile)
> 8.        Set objXLApp = objXLBook.Parent
> 9.        Set objQuerySheet = objXLBook.Worksheets("ProductMetrics")
> 10.      objXLApp.Visible = True
> 11.      objXLBook.Windows(1).Visible = True
> 12.      Set objXLRange = objQuerySheet.Range("B1:G4")
> 13.      objXLRange.FormulaArray = varResults
> 
> Mark Mitsules

<SNIP>


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 29 13:06:37 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:06:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
Message-ID: <s27293ea.016@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

Then I guess the #'s are contained in the query.
If so:

3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = "'" &
Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "'"
4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = "'" &
Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "'"

/gustav


>>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 7:58 pm >>>
Well now...that was interesting...now I get a very specific message:
"Data type mismatch in criteria expression."

When viewed in the Locals window the first parameter value is
"#10/1/2004#".
Prior to this run, it read "10/1/2004".  In both cases the Type is
listed as Variant/String.

I'm wondering if the problem is the quotes.  For instance, another
property for qdfMetrics is DateCreated.  The value for DateCreated
contains no quotes it reads: #4/28/2005 12:46:53 PM#, and the Type is
listed as Variant/Date.

I tried this:
qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)
...but the Type was still listed as Variant/String with a value of
"10/1/2004".



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Apr 29 13:12:46 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:12:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337573@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

ROFLOL! The punch line was well worth the read!
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net [mailto:dmcafee at pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 12:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true


LOL. That was great Jim! Here's my contribution: ( a bit long)

Mel finally decides to take a vacation. He books himself on a Caribbean
cruise and proceeds to have the time of his life, until the boat sinks.
Mel finds himself swept up on the shore of an island with no other people,
no supplies, nothing. He has only bananas and coconuts.

After about four months, Mel is lying on the beach one day when the most
gorgeous woman Mel has ever seen rows up to him. In disbelief, Mel asks her,
"Where did you come from? How did you get here?"

"I rowed from the other side of the island," she says. "I landed here when
my cruise ship sank."

"Amazing," Mel says. "You were really lucky to have a row boat wash up with
you."

"Oh, this?" replies the woman. "I made the rowboat out of raw materials I
found on the island. The oars were whittled from gum tree branches, I wove
the bottom from palm branches, and the sides and stern came from a
Eucalyptus tree."

"But-but, that's impossible," stutters Mel. "You had no tools or hardware.
How did you manage?"

"Oh, that was no problem," replies the woman. "On the south side of the
island, there is a very unusual strata of alluvial rock exposed. I found if
I fired it to a certain temperature in my kiln, it melted into forgeable
ductile iron. I used that for tools and used the tools to make the
hardware."

 Mel is stunned.

"Let's row over to my place," she says.

After an hour or so of rowing, she docks the boat at a small wharf. As Mel
looks on to shore, Mel nearly falls out of the boat. Before him is a stone
walk leading to an exquisite bungalow painted in blue and white. While the
woman ties up the rowboat with an expertly woven hemp rope, Mel could only
stare ahead, dumbstruck.

As they walk into the house, she says casually, "It's not much, but I call
it home. Sit down please. Would you like to have a drink?"

"No, no thank you," Mel says, still dazed. "I can't take any more coconut
juice."

"It's not coconut juice," the woman replies. "I have a still. How about a
Pina Colada?"

Trying to hide his continued amazement, Mel accepts, and they sit down on
her couch to talk. After they have exchanged their stories, the woman
announces, "I'm going to slip into something more comfortable. Would you
like to take a shower and shave? There is a razor upstairs in the cabinet in
the bathroom."

No longer questioning anything, Mel goes into the bathroom. There, in the
cabinet, is a razor made from a bone handle. Two shells honed to a hollow
ground edge are fastened onto its end inside of a swivel mechanism. "Wow!
This woman is amazing," Mel muses. "What next?"

When Mel returns, she greets him wearing nothing but vines, strategically
positioned, and smelling faintly of gardenias. She beckons for him to sit
down next to her.

"Tell me," she begins suggestively, slithering closer to him, "We've been
out here for a really long time. You've been lonely. There's something I'm
sure you really feel like doing right now, something you've been longing for
all these months. You know..." She stares into his eyes. Mel can't believe
what he's hearing:

"You mean", he swallows excitedly, "I can actually check my e-mail from
here?"

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From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 14:04:50 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:04:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <s27293ea.016@cactus.dk>
References: <s27293ea.016@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <5f2de2420504291204dbceed8@mail.gmail.com>

These each produce data type mismatch errors.
qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = 1., 2., or 3.

1. Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
2. "#" & Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"
3. DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)

In an online example that I saw, they used the following:
Dim prm As Parameter
For Each prm In qd.Parameters
prm.Value = Eval(prm.Name)
Next prm

This method hasn't worked either...same error message.

I can't remember exactly how the quote goes...something like "I must
be closer to the solution, because I've just discovered another way it
won't work".

Mark Mitsules




On 4/29/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Mark
> 
> Then I guess the #'s are contained in the query.
> If so:
> 
> 3.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = "'" &
> Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "'"
> 4.        qdfMetrics.Parameters(1) = "'" &
> Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text16, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "'"
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 7:58 pm >>>
> Well now...that was interesting...now I get a very specific message:
> "Data type mismatch in criteria expression."
> 
> When viewed in the Locals window the first parameter value is
> "#10/1/2004#".
> Prior to this run, it read "10/1/2004".  In both cases the Type is
> listed as Variant/String.
> 
> I'm wondering if the problem is the quotes.  For instance, another
> property for qdfMetrics is DateCreated.  The value for DateCreated
> contains no quotes it reads: #4/28/2005 12:46:53 PM#, and the Type is
> listed as Variant/Date.
> 
> I tried this:
> qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)
> ...but the Type was still listed as Variant/String with a value of
> "10/1/2004".
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Apr 29 14:12:57 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:12:57 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
Message-ID: <s272a362.017@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark

If none of these work, your SQL must be pretty strange.

You may have to bring it forward ...

/gustav

>>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 9:04 pm >>>
These each produce data type mismatch errors.
qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = 1., 2., or 3.

1. Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
2. "#" & Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"
3. DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)

In an online example that I saw, they used the following:
Dim prm As Parameter
For Each prm In qd.Parameters
prm.Value = Eval(prm.Name)
Next prm

This method hasn't worked either...same error message.

I can't remember exactly how the quote goes...something like "I must
be closer to the solution, because I've just discovered another way it
won't work".

Mark Mitsules



From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 14:23:04 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:23:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <s272a362.017@cactus.dk>
References: <s272a362.017@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <5f2de2420504291223256b06c3@mail.gmail.com>

You know...this happened to me once before...going 'round and 'round
on a problem till it was pointed out that what I was attempting
couldn't be done with a totals query.  As it happens, this IS a totals
query...could that be the problem?

Mark Mitsules


On 4/29/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Mark
> 
> If none of these work, your SQL must be pretty strange.
> 
> You may have to bring it forward ...
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 9:04 pm >>>
> These each produce data type mismatch errors.
> qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = 1., 2., or 3.
> 
> 1. Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
> 2. "#" & Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"
> 3. DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)
> 
> In an online example that I saw, they used the following:
> Dim prm As Parameter
> For Each prm In qd.Parameters
> prm.Value = Eval(prm.Name)
> Next prm
> 
> This method hasn't worked either...same error message.
> 
> I can't remember exactly how the quote goes...something like "I must
> be closer to the solution, because I've just discovered another way it
> won't work".
> 
> Mark Mitsules
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Apr 29 14:29:47 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:29:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional compile based on Office version
Message-ID: <006a01c54cf1$cdc22810$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Does anyone know if it is possible to do a conditional compile based on the
version number.  IOW, I have a line of code valid in OfficeXP (it references
a control property valid in XP but not previously) so the code compiles
correctly in XP but not in 2K.  I would like to use a #if #endif bracket
around the code to just not compile that line of code if the version is 2K.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From dba.email at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 14:40:16 2005
From: dba.email at gmail.com (Admin Sparky)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:40:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <5f2de2420504291223256b06c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s272a362.017@cactus.dk>
	<5f2de2420504291223256b06c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f2de24205042912406ace164b@mail.gmail.com>

*** SOLVED *** (but don't ask why)

You are not going to believe this one!  I've had a continual search
going on all day for what may be the problem.  I finally found a
cached page from a google search from someone who had my exact
"symptoms".  It turns out that his DAO reference had migrated below
his Excel reference and after re-ordering his references everything
worked.  Now, in my case my DAO reference was already ahead in the
order, but I figured "what the heck" it may just be a flaky reference,
so I re-ordered them, then re-ordered them back again.

Now everything works using Charlotte's original syntax.  Whoohoo!

Mark Mitsules



On 4/29/05, Admin Sparky <dba.email at gmail.com> wrote:
> You know...this happened to me once before...going 'round and 'round
> on a problem till it was pointed out that what I was attempting
> couldn't be done with a totals query.  As it happens, this IS a totals
> query...could that be the problem?
> 
> Mark Mitsules
> 
> On 4/29/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> > Hi Mark
> >
> > If none of these work, your SQL must be pretty strange.
> >
> > You may have to bring it forward ...
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> > >>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 9:04 pm >>>
> > These each produce data type mismatch errors.
> > qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = 1., 2., or 3.
> >
> > 1. Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
> > 2. "#" & Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#"
> > 3. DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)
> >
> > In an online example that I saw, they used the following:
> > Dim prm As Parameter
> > For Each prm In qd.Parameters
> > prm.Value = Eval(prm.Name)
> > Next prm
> >
> > This method hasn't worked either...same error message.
> >
> > I can't remember exactly how the quote goes...something like "I must
> > be closer to the solution, because I've just discovered another way it
> > won't work".
> >
> > Mark Mitsules
> >
> > --
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Apr 29 14:48:16 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:48:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <5f2de24205042912406ace164b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006b01c54cf4$66658e70$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

SCARY stuff!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Admin Sparky
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code


*** SOLVED *** (but don't ask why)

You are not going to believe this one!  I've had a continual search going on
all day for what may be the problem.  I finally found a cached page from a
google search from someone who had my exact "symptoms".  It turns out that
his DAO reference had migrated below his Excel reference and after
re-ordering his references everything worked.  Now, in my case my DAO
reference was already ahead in the order, but I figured "what the heck" it
may just be a flaky reference, so I re-ordered them, then re-ordered them
back again.

Now everything works using Charlotte's original syntax.  Whoohoo!

Mark Mitsules



On 4/29/05, Admin Sparky <dba.email at gmail.com> wrote:
> You know...this happened to me once before...going 'round and 'round 
> on a problem till it was pointed out that what I was attempting 
> couldn't be done with a totals query.  As it happens, this IS a totals 
> query...could that be the problem?
> 
> Mark Mitsules
> 
> On 4/29/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> > Hi Mark
> >
> > If none of these work, your SQL must be pretty strange.
> >
> > You may have to bring it forward ...
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> > >>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 9:04 pm >>>
> > These each produce data type mismatch errors.
> > qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = 1., 2., or 3.
> >
> > 1. Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
> > 2. "#" & Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#" 3. 
> > DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)
> >
> > In an online example that I saw, they used the following: Dim prm As 
> > Parameter For Each prm In qd.Parameters
> > prm.Value = Eval(prm.Name)
> > Next prm
> >
> > This method hasn't worked either...same error message.
> >
> > I can't remember exactly how the quote goes...something like "I must 
> > be closer to the solution, because I've just discovered another way 
> > it won't work".
> >
> > Mark Mitsules
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From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Fri Apr 29 15:00:36 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:00:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: NYC area talent search
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C749D2F55@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Hello All,

I don't post too much truly OT stuff here but allow me this one completely off topic post.  Last year I came out of a 10 year retirement from the music biz and began playing the local (NYC suburban) music scene. This was probably spurred on by my (then) 14 year old son joining a bunch of very advanced teens and making a quick splash on the same scene.  Their group disbanded and my son and his talented bass playing school mate then joined our group after filling in while we unsuccessfully searched for a rhythm section.

Long story short, please see our web site for details on a pending major label record deal these talented teens have in the works, http://www.rocktillyadrop.com (Mozilla users may have trouble with the colored font sorry).  We need to find some young players in the NYC area  to fill out the line up though.  I'm posting notices anywhere I can and I know we've got lots of musicians on the list.  Perhaps one of you has a child or relative or friend who is a very talented teen.  If so please have them contact us via the links on the site.

Thanks for the indulgence,

Jim DeMarco


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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Apr 29 15:20:33 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:20:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional compile based on Office version
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2FF7@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

The conditional compilation feature of Access (and most other programming
environments) requires that you use only conditional compiler constants
(declared using #Const or the user interface [i.e. the dialog box you get to
in the VBA Ide under Tools {Project Name} Properties]).

So you cannot execute code during compilation to discover what version is
doing the compiling. You'll have to declare the constants yourself and set
them to the appropriate values prior to compiling. By declaring/setting
these in the project properties dialog you will be able to compile the code
without making any changes to it at all.  

Also the properties dialog it the only place you can declare a 'public'
conditional constant that is visible in all modules.

Lambert

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> 
> Does anyone know if it is possible to do a conditional compile based on
> the
> version number.  IOW, I have a line of code valid in OfficeXP (it
> references
> a control property valid in XP but not previously) so the code compiles
> correctly in XP but not in 2K.  I would like to use a #if #endif bracket
> around the code to just not compile that line of code if the version is
> 2K.
> 
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From BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com  Fri Apr 29 15:57:39 2005
From: BBarabash at TappeConstruction.com (Brett Barabash)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 15:57:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT:Friday Humour (or Humor)
Message-ID: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D889@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>

Wow Stuart, I was drinking a glass of DHMO when I read that article.
Thanks for the heads up! 

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Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:09 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] OT:Friday Humour (or Humor)


http://www.zippynet.com/pages/bandhmo.htm



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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Apr 29 16:13:20 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:13:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D3EB@main2.marlow.com>

Or what his/her private parts look like!

Drew

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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 12:00 PM
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I did laugh.  It would also help to remember what your spouse is wearing.  

Ken

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Subject: [AccessD] Fri OT funny and true

If you don't laugh out loud at this one, call the morgue and reserve a tray,
because you're dead!!!!!!
Always wear clean underwear in public especially when working under your
vehicle ..
>From the JUPITER FLORIDA Daily News comes this story of a Crestview couple
who drove their car to Wal-Mart, only to have their car break down in the
parking lot. The man told his wife to carry on with the shopping while he
fixed the car in the lot.
The wife returned later to see a small group of people near the car. On
closer inspection, she saw a pair of male legs protruding from under the
chassis. Although the man was in shorts, his lack of underpants turned
private parts into glaringly public ones.
Unable to stand the embarrassment, she dutifully stepped forward, quickly
put her hand UP his shorts, and tucked everything back into place. On
regaining her feet, she looked across the hood and found herself staring at
her husband who was standing idly by.
The mechanic, however, had to have three stitches in his forehead.


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From accma at sympatico.ca  Fri Apr 29 21:25:27 2005
From: accma at sympatico.ca (Annie Courchesne, CMA)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:25:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access
In-Reply-To: <4270CF28.12820.1951A2D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <20050430022524.UUCO2981.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>

Thanks for the info.  I will download the demo and do some further testing.

Annie

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] De la part de Stuart McLachlan
Envoy??: 27 avril 2005 21:55
??: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Objet?: RE: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access

On 27 Apr 2005 at 20:18, Liz Doering wrote:

> Annie,
> 
> I have found that FileMaker Pro can export to .xls or .dbf, but it isn't
> itself a format that Access can link to.  So your import will have to be
> a two step process, one an export from within FileMaker Pro, then a
> separate import into Access.  Your best hope will be to get some
> familiarity with FileMaker Pro:  they have a 30-day free trial at
> https://www.filemaker.com/downloads/trial_download.html
> 


Filemaker Pro claims to allow you to access it's data from other 
applications using ODBC, but there is very little detail on their website.
I suspect the ODBC driver comes as part of their Development Package.

You could also try the Fielmaker Pro ODBC driver at 
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/1602


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From accma at sympatico.ca  Fri Apr 29 21:27:04 2005
From: accma at sympatico.ca (Annie Courchesne, CMA)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:27:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode
Message-ID: <20050430022701.HXEB26128.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>

Hi everyone,

I need to add a barcode in a report.  From what I've read, we can either use
a font or an activex. What's best?  Anyone know of the best solution for
code 128 bar code?

Thanks!


Annie Courchesne, CMA




From accma at sympatico.ca  Fri Apr 29 21:28:43 2005
From: accma at sympatico.ca (Annie Courchesne, CMA)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:28:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] .DAT file from Quickbasic
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAfeYKR0tHo0mmh3+LyaY3xcKAAAAQAAAACcxxl1KbYUuOKmGd1egQxgEAAAAA@sympatico.ca>

Hi everyone,

Anyone out there with a idea on how to import data from a .DAT file that was
created with quick basic a few years ago?

Thanks!


Annie Courchesne, CMA




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr 29 21:39:13 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:39:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] .DAT file from Quickbasic
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAfeYKR0tHo0mmh3+LyaY3xcKAAAAQAAAACcxxl1KbYUuOKmGd1egQxgEAAAAA@sympatico.ca>
Message-ID: <42737C71.10880.888E56F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 29 Apr 2005 at 22:28, Annie Courchesne, CMA wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Anyone out there with a idea on how to import data from a .DAT file that was
> created with quick basic a few years ago?
> 

QuickBasic didn't have a built in data format, it could be anything.

You'll need to open the file with hex editor  and work out exactly how the 
data is stored in it before you can do anything with it.

-- 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Apr 29 21:48:32 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:48:32 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode
In-Reply-To: <20050430022701.HXEB26128.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>
Message-ID: <42737EA0.5444.8916EBC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 29 Apr 2005 at 22:27, Annie Courchesne, CMA wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I need to add a barcode in a report.  From what I've read, we can either use
> a font or an activex. What's best?  Anyone know of the best solution for
> code 128 bar code?
> 
Code 128 gets quite tricky, there are various character sets and a checksum 
to deal with.

Take a look at http://www.idautomation.com/code128faq.html



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From KP at sdsonline.net  Fri Apr 29 21:51:06 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:51:06 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humour
Message-ID: <004b01c54d2f$750e24b0$6401a8c0@user>

:)...still laughing - 
thanks everyone for the Friday contributions- 

Kath



From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Fri Apr 29 22:47:08 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:47:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode
In-Reply-To: <20050430022701.HXEB26128.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKECNFDAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

You can make your own. I did that with UPC-13 font (Which is a variation/new
version of UPC-A). I can provide you with a sample if you wish. There is a
free Code39 available on the web as well.

David

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Annie
Courchesne, CMA
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode


Hi everyone,

I need to add a barcode in a report.  From what I've read, we can either use
a font or an activex. What's best?  Anyone know of the best solution for
code 128 bar code?

Thanks!


Annie Courchesne, CMA



From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Apr 29 22:58:11 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:58:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <004b01c54d2f$750e24b0$6401a8c0@user>
References: <004b01c54d2f$750e24b0$6401a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <aea6c49505042920584a1c10c9@mail.gmail.com>

Here's one more for you, just under the wire.....  (11:pm)


Home remedies that really work....


1. A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you
from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze
button.

2. If you are choking on an ice cube, don't panic!  Simply pour a cup
of boiling water down your throat and presto!  The blockage will be
almost instantly removed.

3. Clumsy?  Avoid cutting yourself while slicing vegetables by getting
someone else to hold them while you chop away.

4. Avoid arguments with the Mrs. about lifting the toilet seat by
simply using the sink.

5. For high blood pressure sufferers:  just cut yourself and bleed for
a few minutes, thus reducing the pressure in your veins.

6. If you have a bad cough, take a large dose of laxatives, then you
will be afraid to cough.

7. Have a bad toothache?  Smash your thumb with a hammer and you will
forget about the toothache.



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> :)...still laughing -
> thanks everyone for the Friday contributions-
> 
> Kath
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Sat Apr 30 00:02:26 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (dmcafee at pacbell.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:02:26 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday humour
In-Reply-To: <aea6c49505042920584a1c10c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKGECOFDAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>

Still 10 PM here ;)

Another fix for #4, which actually worked for me, was to always put the top
cover down as well as the seat. :P

D

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday humour


Here's one more for you, just under the wire.....  (11:pm)


Home remedies that really work....


1. A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you
from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze
button.

2. If you are choking on an ice cube, don't panic!  Simply pour a cup
of boiling water down your throat and presto!  The blockage will be
almost instantly removed.

3. Clumsy?  Avoid cutting yourself while slicing vegetables by getting
someone else to hold them while you chop away.

4. Avoid arguments with the Mrs. about lifting the toilet seat by
simply using the sink.

5. For high blood pressure sufferers:  just cut yourself and bleed for
a few minutes, thus reducing the pressure in your veins.

6. If you have a bad cough, take a large dose of laxatives, then you
will be afraid to cough.

7. Have a bad toothache?  Smash your thumb with a hammer and you will
forget about the toothache.



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> :)...still laughing -
> thanks everyone for the Friday contributions-
>
> Kath
>
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From max at sherman.org.uk  Sat Apr 30 07:00:01 2005
From: max at sherman.org.uk (accessd)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:00:01 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKECNFDAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <20050430120002.GYSI1289.aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@server>

David,
Any chance of a copy please?
Regards
Max Sherman 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
dmcafee at pacbell.net
Sent: 30 April 2005 04:47
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Barcode

You can make your own. I did that with UPC-13 font (Which is a variation/new
version of UPC-A). I can provide you with a sample if you wish. There is a
free Code39 available on the web as well.

David

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Annie Courchesne,
CMA
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode


Hi everyone,

I need to add a barcode in a report.  From what I've read, we can either use
a font or an activex. What's best?  Anyone know of the best solution for
code 128 bar code?

Thanks!


Annie Courchesne, CMA

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From max at sherman.org.uk  Sat Apr 30 07:02:40 2005
From: max at sherman.org.uk (accessd)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:02:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code
In-Reply-To: <006b01c54cf4$66658e70$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050430120241.HCID1289.aamta02-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@server>

Could it be that both the reference has a similar named function/code and it
was taking the first one found?
Max Sherman 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 29 April 2005 20:48
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code

SCARY stuff!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Admin Sparky
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Parameter Queries via Code


*** SOLVED *** (but don't ask why)

You are not going to believe this one!  I've had a continual search going on
all day for what may be the problem.  I finally found a cached page from a
google search from someone who had my exact "symptoms".  It turns out that
his DAO reference had migrated below his Excel reference and after
re-ordering his references everything worked.  Now, in my case my DAO
reference was already ahead in the order, but I figured "what the heck" it
may just be a flaky reference, so I re-ordered them, then re-ordered them
back again.

Now everything works using Charlotte's original syntax.  Whoohoo!

Mark Mitsules



On 4/29/05, Admin Sparky <dba.email at gmail.com> wrote:
> You know...this happened to me once before...going 'round and 'round 
> on a problem till it was pointed out that what I was attempting 
> couldn't be done with a totals query.  As it happens, this IS a totals 
> query...could that be the problem?
> 
> Mark Mitsules
> 
> On 4/29/05, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> > Hi Mark
> >
> > If none of these work, your SQL must be pretty strange.
> >
> > You may have to bring it forward ...
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> > >>> dba.email at gmail.com 04/29 9:04 pm >>>
> > These each produce data type mismatch errors.
> > qdfMetrics.Parameters(0) = 1., 2., or 3.
> >
> > 1. Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14
> > 2. "#" & Format(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14, "m\/d\/yyyy") & "#" 3. 
> > DateValue(Forms!frmDatePicker!Text14)
> >
> > In an online example that I saw, they used the following: Dim prm As 
> > Parameter For Each prm In qd.Parameters prm.Value = Eval(prm.Name) 
> > Next prm
> >
> > This method hasn't worked either...same error message.
> >
> > I can't remember exactly how the quote goes...something like "I must 
> > be closer to the solution, because I've just discovered another way 
> > it won't work".
> >
> > Mark Mitsules
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From accma at sympatico.ca  Sat Apr 30 07:06:08 2005
From: accma at sympatico.ca (Annie Courchesne, CMA)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:06:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode
In-Reply-To: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKECNFDAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <20050430120605.UNNT8412.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>

Hi David,

Yes, I would appreciate getting a sample. Also, do you know the web site
where I can get the free Code39?

Thanks!


Annie Courchesne, CMA


-----Message d'origine-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] De la part de
dmcafee at pacbell.net
Envoy??: 29 avril 2005 23:47
??: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Objet?: RE: [AccessD] Barcode

You can make your own. I did that with UPC-13 font (Which is a variation/new
version of UPC-A). I can provide you with a sample if you wish. There is a
free Code39 available on the web as well.

David

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Annie
Courchesne, CMA
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode


Hi everyone,

I need to add a barcode in a report.  From what I've read, we can either use
a font or an activex. What's best?  Anyone know of the best solution for
code 128 bar code?

Thanks!


Annie Courchesne, CMA

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Apr 30 08:15:33 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:15:33 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode
In-Reply-To: <20050430120605.UNNT8412.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>
References: <KDEHKEMIOHGKCDHLPPLKKECNFDAA.dmcafee@pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <42741195.29616.ACF6AEC@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 30 Apr 2005 at 8:06, Annie Courchesne, CMA wrote:

> Hi David,
> 
> Yes, I would appreciate getting a sample. Also, do you know the web site
> where I can get the free Code39?
> 

Here's a couple of free Code39s

http://www.idautomation.com/fonts/free/
http://www.montereysoft.com/Products/Freebarcode39font.asp

If you are just using Code39,  you can easily include barcodes in reports, 
just put asterisks round the string you want coded and set the font of the 
control to the Code39 font.



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From jedi at charm.net  Sat Apr 30 09:00:16 2005
From: jedi at charm.net (Michael Bahr)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:00:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT:Friday Humour (or Humor)
In-Reply-To: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D889@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
References: <100F91B31300334B89EC531C9DCB086586D889@tccexch01.tappeconstruction.net>
Message-ID: <200504301000160455.AD7B1778@mail.cablespeed.com>

Here is the official web site.  http://www.dhmo.org/

Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound,
also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium
Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the unstable radical
Hydroxide, the components of which are found in a number of caustic,
explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and
Ethyl Alcohol.

Did you know:
Inhalation can be fatal?
Is found in cancer?
Is found in beer, soft drinks, alcohol beverages, milk?
Can cause severe burns.
Contrbutes to soil erosion.
Is an additive in junk food?
Found in nuclear power plants?
Is a major component to acid rain?

You should be concerned, Mike...


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On 4/29/2005 at 3:57 PM Brett Barabash wrote:

>Wow Stuart, I was drinking a glass of DHMO when I read that article.
>Thanks for the heads up! 
>
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>http://www.zippynet.com/pages/bandhmo.htm
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Apr 30 10:46:51 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:46:51 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode
Message-ID: <s273c49c.019@cactus.dk>

Hi Annie

Here's one source:

http://www.squaregear.net/fonts/free3of9.shtml 

/gustav


>>> accma at sympatico.ca 04/30 2:06 pm >>>
Hi David,

Yes, I would appreciate getting a sample. Also, do you know the web
site
where I can get the free Code39?

Thanks!


Annie Courchesne, CMA


-----Message d'origine-----
De : accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] De la part de
dmcafee at pacbell.net 
Envoy? : 29 avril 2005 23:47
? : Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Objet : RE: [AccessD] Barcode

You can make your own. I did that with UPC-13 font (Which is a
variation/new
version of UPC-A). I can provide you with a sample if you wish. There
is a
free Code39 available on the web as well.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Annie
Courchesne, CMA
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Barcode


Hi everyone,

I need to add a barcode in a report.  From what I've read, we can
either use
a font or an activex. What's best?  Anyone know of the best solution
for
code 128 bar code?



From chris at denverdb.com  Sat Apr 30 12:23:09 2005
From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:23:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional compile based on Office version
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F073A2FF7@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <GGENIBBECLOHCDNANHMOOECEFBAA.chris@denverdb.com>

You can however, open the file, read the desired value and write that out to
the Conditional Compilation property, then close the db, open it with a
recompile and you're good.  So with a little work you can pull i toff no
problem.

The key, like so many other times, is in ADH, see their documentation of the
SetOption argument used to rewrite the Conditional Compilation value.  The
only real gotcha is that you must set ALL of the conidtional compilation
arguments at the same time. So if you have more than one, write them all
out, otherwise if you only set 1, the others are gone.

-Chris Mackin

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Lambert
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 2:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'John W. Colby'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Conditional compile based on Office version


The conditional compilation feature of Access (and most other programming
environments) requires that you use only conditional compiler constants
(declared using #Const or the user interface [i.e. the dialog box you get to
in the VBA Ide under Tools {Project Name} Properties]).

So you cannot execute code during compilation to discover what version is
doing the compiling. You'll have to declare the constants yourself and set
them to the appropriate values prior to compiling. By declaring/setting
these in the project properties dialog you will be able to compile the code
without making any changes to it at all.

Also the properties dialog it the only place you can declare a 'public'
conditional constant that is visible in all modules.

Lambert

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> Sent:	Friday, April 29, 2005 3:30 PM
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> Subject:	[AccessD] Conditional compile based on Office version
>
> Does anyone know if it is possible to do a conditional compile based on
> the
> version number.  IOW, I have a line of code valid in OfficeXP (it
> references
> a control property valid in XP but not previously) so the code compiles
> correctly in XP but not in 2K.  I would like to use a #if #endif bracket
> around the code to just not compile that line of code if the version is
> 2K.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
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From chris at denverdb.com  Sat Apr 30 12:25:07 2005
From: chris at denverdb.com (Chris Mackin)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:25:07 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access
In-Reply-To: <20050430022524.UUCO2981.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>
Message-ID: <GGENIBBECLOHCDNANHMOCECFFBAA.chris@denverdb.com>

You can link to FileMaker Pro via ODBC that comes with FileMaker Pro.  It is
very frustrating and FMP is a piece of s*** application, but I've done it.
One key pitfall, and there are many, is that FMP must have the file open
that you are connecting to, otherwise the ODBC connection will fail.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Annie
Courchesne, CMA
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access


Thanks for the info.  I will download the demo and do some further testing.

Annie

-----Message d'origine-----
De?: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] De la part de Stuart McLachlan
Envoy??: 27 avril 2005 21:55
??: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Objet?: RE: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access

On 27 Apr 2005 at 20:18, Liz Doering wrote:

> Annie,
>
> I have found that FileMaker Pro can export to .xls or .dbf, but it isn't
> itself a format that Access can link to.  So your import will have to be
> a two step process, one an export from within FileMaker Pro, then a
> separate import into Access.  Your best hope will be to get some
> familiarity with FileMaker Pro:  they have a 30-day free trial at
> https://www.filemaker.com/downloads/trial_download.html
>


Filemaker Pro claims to allow you to access it's data from other
applications using ODBC, but there is very little detail on their website.
I suspect the ODBC driver comes as part of their Development Package.

You could also try the Fielmaker Pro ODBC driver at
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/1602


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From accma at sympatico.ca  Sat Apr 30 13:32:15 2005
From: accma at sympatico.ca (Annie Courchesne, CMA)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:32:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access
In-Reply-To: <GGENIBBECLOHCDNANHMOCECFFBAA.chris@denverdb.com>
Message-ID: <20050430183211.LHKV26128.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@ANNIETS>

Chris,

Thanks for the info, I will try this with the demo version of file marker
pro.


Annie


-----Message d'origine-----
De?: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] De la part de Chris Mackin
Envoy??: 30 avril 2005 13:25
??: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Objet?: RE: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access

You can link to FileMaker Pro via ODBC that comes with FileMaker Pro.  It is
very frustrating and FMP is a piece of s*** application, but I've done it.
One key pitfall, and there are many, is that FMP must have the file open
that you are connecting to, otherwise the ODBC connection will fail.

-Chris Mackin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Annie
Courchesne, CMA
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 8:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access


Thanks for the info.  I will download the demo and do some further testing.

Annie

-----Message d'origine-----
De?: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] De la part de Stuart McLachlan
Envoy??: 27 avril 2005 21:55
??: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Objet?: RE: [AccessD] Files maker pro and Access

On 27 Apr 2005 at 20:18, Liz Doering wrote:

> Annie,
>
> I have found that FileMaker Pro can export to .xls or .dbf, but it isn't
> itself a format that Access can link to.  So your import will have to be
> a two step process, one an export from within FileMaker Pro, then a
> separate import into Access.  Your best hope will be to get some
> familiarity with FileMaker Pro:  they have a 30-day free trial at
> https://www.filemaker.com/downloads/trial_download.html
>


Filemaker Pro claims to allow you to access it's data from other
applications using ODBC, but there is very little detail on their website.
I suspect the ODBC driver comes as part of their Development Package.

You could also try the Fielmaker Pro ODBC driver at
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/1602


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