From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  1 00:38:29 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:38:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Check date-time problem
In-Reply-To: <42C44811.6050000@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <20050701053829.34085.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Example:

current time=21:37
StartPauzeAt=21:00
EndPauzeAt=3:00

The following statement checks if current time is
between startpauze and endpauze:
If (dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) And
(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) Then

(dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) = TRUE
21:37           > 21:00          = TRUE
(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) = FALSE
21:37           < 3:00         = FALSE!!

So the problem is that I'm missing a day factor here.
How can I implement this. The StartPauzeAt and
EndPauzeAt are flexibel and can be changed at any
time.

So what I need is:
If dtmCrntDateTime > dtmStartPauze AND dtmCrntDateTime
< dtmStartPauze then
IF 1-jun-2005 21:37 > 1-jun-2005 21:00 AND
1-jun-2005 21:37    < 2-jun-2005 3:00

Hope this makes sence.

SD


--- MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca> wrote:

> So what is the problem, are you running more than 24
> hours?
> 
> Sad Der wrote:
> 
> >Hi group,
> >
> >I've got an ini file with the following values:
> >[PauzeScheduling]
> >StartPauzeAt=21:00
> >EndPauzeAt=3:00
> >
> >I've got a 'service' that checks if the
> Currenttime:
> >dtmCurrentTime = CDate(Format(Time(), "hh:mm"))
> >
> >Is between these values. 
> >
> >It worked fine. Settings used to be within a day.
> >Somebody has got to have dealt with this problem
> >before.
> >What is a (very) solid way to handle this problem?
> >Keep in mind that this is a long running schedule
> >(e.g. forever?!)
> >
> >Thnx.
> >SD
> >
> >Here's my code:
> >
>
>'=========================================================================================
> >' Function Name      :  PauzeScheduling
> >' Parameters         :  dtmCurrentTime => Current
> >Time' Return value       :  (Boolean) True:
> >CurrentTime between scheduled times
> >' Purpose            :  Check if current time is
> >within the scheduled times of the ini file
> >' Assumptions        :  ---
> >' Uses               :  ---
> >' Created            :  2005-Jun-03 08:55, SaDe
> >' Modifications      :
>
>'=========================================================================================
> >Public Function PauzeScheduling(dtmCurrentTime As
> >Date) As Boolean
> >   Dim dtmStartPauze As Date
> >   Dim dtmEndPauze As Date
> >   
> >   On Error GoTo PauzeScheduling_Error
> >   
> >   dtmStartPauze =
> >CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
> >"StartPauzeAt"), "HH:mm"))
> >   dtmEndPauze =
> >CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
> >"EndPauzeAt"), "hh:mm"))
> >   
> >   
> >   If (dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) And
> >(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) Then
> >      PauzeScheduling = True
> >   Else
> >      PauzeScheduling = False
> >   End If
> >
> >PauzeScheduling_Exit:
> >   ' Collect your garbage here
> >   Exit Function
> >PauzeScheduling_Error:
> >   ' Collect your garbage here
> >   Call
> >g_oGenErr.Throw("PauzeScheduling.PauzeScheduling",
> >"PauzeScheduling")
> >End Function
> >
> >
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jul  1 01:51:22 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:51:22 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Check date-time problem
In-Reply-To: <20050701053829.34085.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <42C44811.6050000@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <42C5748A.23305.AE32B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 30 Jun 2005 at 22:38, Sad Der wrote:

> Example:
> 
> current time=21:37
> StartPauzeAt=21:00
> EndPauzeAt=3:00
> 

Is StartPauzeAt  always later than EndPauzeAt?  If not you need two 
different conditions.

If StartPauzeAt > EndPauseAt then  'wraps at midnight
   If currenttime > StartPauzeAt or currenttime < EndPauzeAt then
      .....  'Pauze
   end If
Else   ' all in the same day
  If current currenttime > StartPauzeAt and currenttime < EndPauzeAt then
     .... 'Pause
  End If
End If



-- 
Stuart




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jul  1 04:10:11 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:10:11 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Check date-time problem
Message-ID: <s2c524ba.024@cactus.dk>

Hi SD

This should work for you:

Public Function IsTimeBetween( _
  ByVal dteTimeFrom As Date, _
  ByVal dteTimeTo As Date, _
  ByVal dteTimeToCompare As Date, _
  Optional ByVal booTimeToCompareIsNextDay As Boolean) _
  As Boolean
  
' Returns True if dteTimeToCompare falls between dteTimeFrom and
dteTimeTo.
'
' 2002-04-06. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.

  Dim booTimeIsBetween  As Boolean

  If DateDiff("s", dteTimeTo, dteTimeFrom) > 0 Then
    dteTimeTo = DateAdd("d", 1, dteTimeTo)
  End If
  If booTimeToCompareIsNextDay = True Then
    dteTimeToCompare = DateAdd("d", 1, dteTimeToCompare)
  End If

  If DateDiff("s", dteTimeFrom, dteTimeToCompare) >= 0 And _
    DateDiff("s", dteTimeToCompare, dteTimeTo) >= 0 Then
    booTimeIsBetween = True
  End If
    
  IsTimeBetween = booTimeIsBetween
  
End Function

/gustav

>>> accessd666 at yahoo.com 07/01 7:38 am >>>
Example:

current time=21:37
StartPauzeAt=21:00
EndPauzeAt=3:00

The following statement checks if current time is
between startpauze and endpauze:
If (dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) And
(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) Then

(dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) = TRUE
21:37           > 21:00          = TRUE
(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) = FALSE
21:37           < 3:00         = FALSE!!

So the problem is that I'm missing a day factor here.
How can I implement this. The StartPauzeAt and
EndPauzeAt are flexibel and can be changed at any
time.

So what I need is:
If dtmCrntDateTime > dtmStartPauze AND dtmCrntDateTime
< dtmStartPauze then
IF 1-jun-2005 21:37 > 1-jun-2005 21:00 AND
1-jun-2005 21:37    < 2-jun-2005 3:00

Hope this makes sence.

SD


--- MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca> wrote:

> So what is the problem, are you running more than 24
> hours?
> 
> Sad Der wrote:
> 
> >Hi group,
> >
> >I've got an ini file with the following values:
> >[PauzeScheduling]
> >StartPauzeAt=21:00
> >EndPauzeAt=3:00
> >
> >I've got a 'service' that checks if the
> Currenttime:
> >dtmCurrentTime = CDate(Format(Time(), "hh:mm"))
> >
> >Is between these values. 
> >
> >It worked fine. Settings used to be within a day.
> >Somebody has got to have dealt with this problem
> >before.
> >What is a (very) solid way to handle this problem?
> >Keep in mind that this is a long running schedule
> >(e.g. forever?!)
> >
> >Thnx.
> >SD
> >
> >Here's my code:
> >
>
>'=========================================================================================
> >' Function Name      :  PauzeScheduling
> >' Parameters         :  dtmCurrentTime => Current
> >Time' Return value       :  (Boolean) True:
> >CurrentTime between scheduled times
> >' Purpose            :  Check if current time is
> >within the scheduled times of the ini file
> >' Assumptions        :  ---
> >' Uses               :  ---
> >' Created            :  2005-Jun-03 08:55, SaDe
> >' Modifications      :
>
>'=========================================================================================
> >Public Function PauzeScheduling(dtmCurrentTime As
> >Date) As Boolean
> >   Dim dtmStartPauze As Date
> >   Dim dtmEndPauze As Date
> >   
> >   On Error GoTo PauzeScheduling_Error
> >   
> >   dtmStartPauze =
> >CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
> >"StartPauzeAt"), "HH:mm"))
> >   dtmEndPauze =
> >CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
> >"EndPauzeAt"), "hh:mm"))
> >   
> >   
> >   If (dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) And
> >(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) Then
> >      PauzeScheduling = True
> >   Else
> >      PauzeScheduling = False
> >   End If
> >
> >PauzeScheduling_Exit:
> >   ' Collect your garbage here
> >   Exit Function
> >PauzeScheduling_Error:
> >   ' Collect your garbage here
> >   Call
> >g_oGenErr.Throw("PauzeScheduling.PauzeScheduling",
> >"PauzeScheduling")
> >End Function
> >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
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> protection around 
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> >  
> >
> 
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> Canada
> 
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jul  1 10:01:50 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:01:50 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration
Message-ID: <s2c57710.029@cactus.dk>

Hi all

What a boring Friday afternoon. Much more fun to study the flash site
on the Turning Torso, a masterpiece in sculptural architecture under
construction at Malm?, the Swedish town 25 km east of Copenhagen, with a
height of 190 m:

  http://www.turningtorso.com/

Note the Menu top right.
Have fun!

/gustav


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jul  1 10:27:57 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:27:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration
In-Reply-To: <s2c57710.029@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <001401c57e51$758924a0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Is it a windmill by any chance?  Cool looking structure.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:02 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration


Hi all

What a boring Friday afternoon. Much more fun to study the flash site on the
Turning Torso, a masterpiece in sculptural architecture under construction
at Malm?, the Swedish town 25 km east of Copenhagen, with a height of 190 m:

  http://www.turningtorso.com/

Note the Menu top right.
Have fun!

/gustav
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jul  1 10:42:43 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:42:43 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration
Message-ID: <s2c580b5.030@cactus.dk>

Hi John

Many ways to look at this.

Notice the pictures of the interior. No window is rectangular.

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 07/01 5:27 pm >>>
Is it a windmill by any chance?  Cool looking structure.



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jul  1 10:57:22 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:57:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AF5@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Makes it hard to find window shades! <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:43 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration


Hi John

Many ways to look at this.

Notice the pictures of the interior. No window is rectangular.

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 07/01 5:27 pm >>>
Is it a windmill by any chance?  Cool looking structure.

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Jul  1 11:13:54 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:13:54 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Storing variable names in a table
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723376B3@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Sad,
Thank you for the reply. I'm experimenting with your suggestion. I'll let
you know how it goes.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Sad Der [mailto:accessd666 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Storing variable names in a table


Jim,

I'm probably missing the big picture here but i'll
give it a try.
Suppose you have a table with the following fields:
Query (Text)
Parameter (Text)
ParameterType (Text)

It has the values:
Query Parameter                   ParameterType
A     strareacode                 String
A     intCo                       Integer
A     "AreaActSummaryACT"         String
A     "dept1"                     String
A     .Worksheets(y).Range("a11") Range

You could add all parameters and there types in an 
array
Something like this:
intCntr = Select count(*) from ParameterTable where
Query = "A"
dim avarParameter() as variant
redim avarparameter(1,intCntr)

So now you now how to convert the parameter types.

for lngArrayCntr = 0 to UBOUND(avarparameter)
 ConvertDataType(avarparameter(1,lngArrayCntr)
next lngArrayCntr

Did I mis it completely? :-)

HTH

SD
--- "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:

> In a class I have created a method that reads query
> names from a table and
> opens the appropriate record sets. There may be any
> number of queries that
> are run by a single method call. For parameter
> queries life is more
> complicated. I created a method which loads the
> variables into a ParmArray
> and then sets the query parameters to the correct
> variable. The problem with
> this is I can only run one parameter query at a time
> from my method. a
> typical call looks like:
> 
> 'set parameter values
>  Call Xcel.QryParmValues(strareacode, intCo,
> "AreaActSummaryACT", "dept1",
> .Worksheets(y).Range("a11"))
> ' read query names from table and open the
> recorsets.
>     Xcel.MultiplePasteExcel (119)
> 
> 119 is the case number so the method knows which the
> query names to pull
> from a table. Ideally I would like to store all the
> parameters for all the
> queries in a table and extract them as needed. 
> "AreaActSummaryACT", and
> "dept1" are no problem since they are strings. What
> I don't know how to do
> is store variable names such as strareacode, intCo
> as strings in a table and
> then assign them the correct value from the
> procedure all this is running
> in. Worksheets(y).Range("a11")) will also be a
> challenge to store in a table
> (it picks up the parameter value from an Excel
> worksheet) but I may be able
> use eval() to create the correct value. If I can
> solve these problems I will
> be able to populate Excel workbooks with one method
> call since all the info
> needed to create recordsets with data to paste into
> worksheets will reside
> in a table. If I can't store the variable names in a
> table I quess I could
> expand the QryParmValues method to handle a multi
> dimensional array  but I
> am not at all sure how to do this either. Any help
> will be appreciated.
> 
> Jim Hale
> 
> 
> 
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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Fri Jul  1 11:56:47 2005
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:56:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration
In-Reply-To: <s2c57710.029@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP03DCE430E5E1FE9400E7DCAEE20@cez.ice>

On 1 Jul 2005 at 17:01, Gustav Brock wrote:

> What a boring Friday afternoon. Much more fun to study the flash site
> on the Turning Torso, a masterpiece in sculptural architecture under
> construction at Malm?, the Swedish town 25 km east of Copenhagen, with
> a height of 190 m:
> 
>   http://www.turningtorso.com/

It is a cool building. I was actually watching a program on Discovery 
Channel Canada last night about this. 7 days to build 1 floor.

For those that get Discovery Canada and want to see it, it's on again 
today (July 1) at 4pm ET and again on July 3rd at 8am ET.

It was one of the Extreme Engeneering episodes if you want to try and 
find it on a local channel.

-- 
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Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never 
cease to be amused.




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jul  1 15:59:56 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:59:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hockey Stick programs and global warming on Canada
	Day
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AF5@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <42C5AECC.7040803@shaw.ca>

Does your code measure up to this standard. This is just a quick peek at 
the code and the stats used.
Not a argument for or against each position.

 This is part of the analysis, that forms the basis for
billions of dollars being spent on Global Warming. Golub's CSVD routine 
is kind of old and if I remember right machine dependant. SVD routines
(Singular Value Decomposition) are a method of solving linear least 
squares problems.

The argument
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_past_1000_years

Ok, now here is some of the original code from Mann's site, about 400 
lines of text.
Note the use of goto's and other achronisms. This isn't a plug for use 
of IDL language.

ftp://holocene.evsc.virginia.edu/pub/MBH98/TREE/ITRDB/NOAMER/pca-noamer.f

what routine does
remove the 1902-1980 mean
calc the SD over this period
divide the whole series by this SD, point by point
remove the linear trend from the new 1902-1980 series
compute the SD again for 1902-1980 of the detrended data
divide the whole series by this SD.


Be aware that not all the software code and data has been fully released
so their is much bickering involved.

More info:

William Connolley's view Anatartic Climate Modeler
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/9a3673c6a0d64c1f?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&rnum=5

Answer to natures rejection of McKitrick and McIntyre rejection of 
Mann's data and Analysis

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/fallupdate04/update.fall04.html

Another blog
http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/2004-2_archives/000406.html

C SVD routines from "Numerical Recipes in C"  book online can be had here
http://www.library.cornell.edu/nr/cbookcpdf.html


C SVD routines from "Numerical Recipes in C"  book online can be had here
http://www.library.cornell.edu/nr/cbookcpdf.html


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Canada





From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 16:14:39 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:14:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] I have a webservice... now what?
Message-ID: <b874372a05070114149066bf8@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, so I have a webservices that returns an XML reocordset.  I'd like
to save that recordset w/ ado to an XML file... anybody have any
samples?



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jul  1 18:35:06 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:35:06 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] I have a webservice... now what?
References: <b874372a05070114149066bf8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42C5D32A.7060106@shaw.ca>

  Ok, here is some code to get you started it reads a northwind table 
and outputs three types of files
XML Flat file format just elements plus initial XML  PI
XML ADTG   format ( the type with zRows schema) suitable to be read 
 directly back into an mdb
CSV file

Where you want to change this code is where I load the northwind SQL 
recordset.
Replace it by what you have returned from XMLHTTP by oDOM.loadXML 
(objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml)
What you are getting returned in response object is just one long xml 
string.

Application.ExportXML won't work here as it  has to be an Access Object 
to be output.
You might also want to use .validateonparse method to error check the 
xml you are getting initally.

If you wanted to once you have your returned xml in the dom you could 
use Xpath
to grab specific fields.
 
Sub readmdb()

   Dim sSQL As String
   Dim iNumRecords As Integer

   Dim oConnection As ADODB.Connection
   Dim oRecordset As ADODB.Recordset
   Dim rstSchema As ADODB.Recordset
   Dim sConnStr As String

   'sConnStr = "Provider=SQLOLEDB;Data Source=MySrvr;" & _
               "Initial Catalog=Northwind;User Id=MyId;Password=123aBc;"
   ' Connection "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.3.51;Data 
Source=D:\DataBases\Northwind.mdb"
         
   'Access 97 version Jet 3.51
   ' sConnStr = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.3.51;" & _
           "Data Source=C:\Program Files\Microsoft 
Office\Office\Samples\Northwind.mdb;" & _
           "User Id=admin;" & "Password="
   'Access XP Jet 4
   sConnStr = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
           "Data Source=C:\Program Files\Microsoft 
Office\Office\Samples\Northwind.mdb;" & _
           "User Id=admin;" & "Password="
        
   'On Error GoTo GetDataError
  
   ' Create and Open the Connection object.
   Set oConnection = New ADODB.Connection
   oConnection.CursorLocation = adUseClient
   oConnection.Open sConnStr
  
   sSQL = "SELECT ProductID, ProductName, CategoryID, UnitPrice " & _
            "FROM Products"
  
   ' Create and Open the Recordset object.
   Set oRecordset = New ADODB.Recordset
   oRecordset.Open sSQL, oConnection, adOpenStatic, _
                       adLockBatchOptimistic, adCmdText
      With oRecordset
      Debug.Print .RecordCount
      Dim i As Long
      Dim strOut As String
      strOut = ""
      .MoveFirst
      For i = 0 To .RecordCount - 1
      strOut = strOut & !ProductName
      strOut = strOut & "," & !CategoryID
      strOut = strOut & "," & !UnitPrice
      strOut = strOut & vbCrLf
      .MoveNext
      Next i
      End With
 'Save as Access csv file
 WriteFile "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\strout" & Format(Now, 
"yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", strOut
 
Dim oDOM As MSXML2.DOMDocument
Dim oXML As MSXML2.DOMDocument
Dim oXSL As MSXML2.DOMDocument
Dim strHTML As String
Dim strTransform As String

Set oDOM = CreateObject("MSXML2.DOMDocument")
  oDOM.async = False
  'Load the XML DOM
  'Put recordset into XML Dom
  ' Here you would load your xml string
  ' read from whatever is returned by xmlhttp or xnlhttpserver into the 
XML DOM
  ' I forget if it is objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml or objXMLHTTP.responseXML
  ' Set objXMLHTTP = New MSXML2.XMLHTTP
  ' Debug.Print "returned=" & objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml
  '     oDOM.loadXML (objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml)
  ' in place of line below
  oRecordset.Save oDOM, adPersistXML '1 magic number

Set oXSL = CreateObject("MSXML2.DOMDocument")
  oXSL.async = False
  oXSL.Load "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\ADOGeneric.xsl" 'your XSLT 
stylesheet save as unicode not ansii
'note encoding as european language encoding need for swedish characters
'you could scan the the string and convert to unicode escape characters 
like &#x27;
strTransform = oDOM.transformNode(oXSL)
strHTML = "<?xml version='1.0' encoding=""ISO-8859-1""?>" & vbCrLf & _
            "<root>" & strTransform & "</root>"
'Save as flat xml file
WriteFile "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\ADOGenericProduct" & Format(Now, 
"yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", strHTML
'
'the above XSLT transform with xsl file converts this to a flat XML 
format without rowset schema

'this  will save to an XML file with ADTG MS Format suitable to dump 
back into table or recordset
oRecordset.Save "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\ADOGenericProductADG.xml", 
adPersistXML

Set oDOM = Nothing
Set oXML = Nothing
Set oXSL = Nothing
Set oConnection = Nothing
Set oRecordset = Nothing
End Sub
Public Sub WriteFile(ByVal sFileName As String, ByVal sContents As String)
' Dump XML  String to File for debugging
    Dim fhFile As Integer
    fhFile = FreeFile
   ' Debug.Print "Length of string=" & Len(sContents)
    Open sFileName For Output As #fhFile
    Print #fhFile, sContents;
    Close #fhFile
    Debug.Print "Out File" & sFileName
End Sub

ADOgeneric.xsl file   cut and paste and save in notepad as Unicode not Ansi
This is XSLT file that strips all the extraneous rowset schema from ADTG 
formated xml file to create flat xml

<?xml version='1.0'?>
<xsl:stylesheet version="1.0" 
xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform" 
xmlns:s="uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:z="#RowsetSchema">
    <s:Schema id="RowsetSchema"/>
<xsl:output method="xml" omit-xml-declaration="yes" />
<xsl:template match="/">
    <xsl:apply-templates select="//z:row"/>
</xsl:template>

<xsl:template match="z:row">
    <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;row&gt;</xsl:text>
        <xsl:for-each select="@*">
            <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;</xsl:text>
            <xsl:value-of select="name()"/>
            <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&gt;</xsl:text>
            <xsl:value-of select="."/>
            <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;/</xsl:text>
            <xsl:value-of select="name()"/>
            <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&gt;</xsl:text>
        </xsl:for-each>
    <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;/row&gt;</xsl:text>
</xsl:template>
</xsl:stylesheet>


Francisco Tapia wrote:

>Ok, so I have a webservices that returns an XML reocordset.  I'd like
>to save that recordset w/ ado to an XML file... anybody have any
>samples?
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 18:58:15 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 16:58:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] I have a webservice... now what?
In-Reply-To: <42C5D32A.7060106@shaw.ca>
References: <b874372a05070114149066bf8@mail.gmail.com>
	<42C5D32A.7060106@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <b874372a0507011658e31bac@mail.gmail.com>

Very COOL, Thanks for the FAST response! :)

On 7/1/05, MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca> wrote:
>   Ok, here is some code to get you started it reads a northwind table
> and outputs three types of files
> XML Flat file format just elements plus initial XML  PI
> XML ADTG   format ( the type with zRows schema) suitable to be read
>  directly back into an mdb
> CSV file
> 
> Where you want to change this code is where I load the northwind SQL
> recordset.
> Replace it by what you have returned from XMLHTTP by oDOM.loadXML
> (objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml)
> What you are getting returned in response object is just one long xml
> string.
> 
> Application.ExportXML won't work here as it  has to be an Access Object
> to be output.
> You might also want to use .validateonparse method to error check the
> xml you are getting initally.
> 
> If you wanted to once you have your returned xml in the dom you could
> use Xpath
> to grab specific fields.
> 
> Sub readmdb()
> 
>    Dim sSQL As String
>    Dim iNumRecords As Integer
> 
>    Dim oConnection As ADODB.Connection
>    Dim oRecordset As ADODB.Recordset
>    Dim rstSchema As ADODB.Recordset
>    Dim sConnStr As String
> 
>    'sConnStr = "Provider=SQLOLEDB;Data Source=MySrvr;" & _
>                "Initial Catalog=Northwind;User Id=MyId;Password=123aBc;"
>    ' Connection "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.3.51;Data
> Source=D:\DataBases\Northwind.mdb"
> 
>    'Access 97 version Jet 3.51
>    ' sConnStr = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.3.51;" & _
>            "Data Source=C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> Office\Office\Samples\Northwind.mdb;" & _
>            "User Id=admin;" & "Password="
>    'Access XP Jet 4
>    sConnStr = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
>            "Data Source=C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> Office\Office\Samples\Northwind.mdb;" & _
>            "User Id=admin;" & "Password="
> 
>    'On Error GoTo GetDataError
> 
>    ' Create and Open the Connection object.
>    Set oConnection = New ADODB.Connection
>    oConnection.CursorLocation = adUseClient
>    oConnection.Open sConnStr
> 
>    sSQL = "SELECT ProductID, ProductName, CategoryID, UnitPrice " & _
>             "FROM Products"
> 
>    ' Create and Open the Recordset object.
>    Set oRecordset = New ADODB.Recordset
>    oRecordset.Open sSQL, oConnection, adOpenStatic, _
>                        adLockBatchOptimistic, adCmdText
>       With oRecordset
>       Debug.Print .RecordCount
>       Dim i As Long
>       Dim strOut As String
>       strOut = ""
>       .MoveFirst
>       For i = 0 To .RecordCount - 1
>       strOut = strOut & !ProductName
>       strOut = strOut & "," & !CategoryID
>       strOut = strOut & "," & !UnitPrice
>       strOut = strOut & vbCrLf
>       .MoveNext
>       Next i
>       End With
>  'Save as Access csv file
>  WriteFile "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\strout" & Format(Now,
> "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", strOut
> 
> Dim oDOM As MSXML2.DOMDocument
> Dim oXML As MSXML2.DOMDocument
> Dim oXSL As MSXML2.DOMDocument
> Dim strHTML As String
> Dim strTransform As String
> 
> Set oDOM = CreateObject("MSXML2.DOMDocument")
>   oDOM.async = False
>   'Load the XML DOM
>   'Put recordset into XML Dom
>   ' Here you would load your xml string
>   ' read from whatever is returned by xmlhttp or xnlhttpserver into the
> XML DOM
>   ' I forget if it is objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml or objXMLHTTP.responseXML
>   ' Set objXMLHTTP = New MSXML2.XMLHTTP
>   ' Debug.Print "returned=" & objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml
>   '     oDOM.loadXML (objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml)
>   ' in place of line below
>   oRecordset.Save oDOM, adPersistXML '1 magic number
> 
> Set oXSL = CreateObject("MSXML2.DOMDocument")
>   oXSL.async = False
>   oXSL.Load "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\ADOGeneric.xsl" 'your XSLT
> stylesheet save as unicode not ansii
> 'note encoding as european language encoding need for swedish characters
> 'you could scan the the string and convert to unicode escape characters
> like &#x27;
> strTransform = oDOM.transformNode(oXSL)
> strHTML = "<?xml version='1.0' encoding=""ISO-8859-1""?>" & vbCrLf & _
>             "<root>" & strTransform & "</root>"
> 'Save as flat xml file
> WriteFile "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\ADOGenericProduct" & Format(Now,
> "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", strHTML
> '
> 'the above XSLT transform with xsl file converts this to a flat XML
> format without rowset schema
> 
> 'this  will save to an XML file with ADTG MS Format suitable to dump
> back into table or recordset
> oRecordset.Save "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\ADOGenericProductADG.xml",
> adPersistXML
> 
> Set oDOM = Nothing
> Set oXML = Nothing
> Set oXSL = Nothing
> Set oConnection = Nothing
> Set oRecordset = Nothing
> End Sub
> Public Sub WriteFile(ByVal sFileName As String, ByVal sContents As String)
> ' Dump XML  String to File for debugging
>     Dim fhFile As Integer
>     fhFile = FreeFile
>    ' Debug.Print "Length of string=" & Len(sContents)
>     Open sFileName For Output As #fhFile
>     Print #fhFile, sContents;
>     Close #fhFile
>     Debug.Print "Out File" & sFileName
> End Sub
> 
> ADOgeneric.xsl file   cut and paste and save in notepad as Unicode not Ansi
> This is XSLT file that strips all the extraneous rowset schema from ADTG
> formated xml file to create flat xml
> 
> <?xml version='1.0'?>
> <xsl:stylesheet version="1.0"
> xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform"
> xmlns:s="uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:z="#RowsetSchema">
>     <s:Schema id="RowsetSchema"/>
> <xsl:output method="xml" omit-xml-declaration="yes" />
> <xsl:template match="/">
>     <xsl:apply-templates select="//z:row"/>
> </xsl:template>
> 
> <xsl:template match="z:row">
>     <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;row&gt;</xsl:text>
>         <xsl:for-each select="@*">
>             <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;</xsl:text>
>             <xsl:value-of select="name()"/>
>             <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&gt;</xsl:text>
>             <xsl:value-of select="."/>
>             <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;/</xsl:text>
>             <xsl:value-of select="name()"/>
>             <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&gt;</xsl:text>
>         </xsl:for-each>
>     <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;/row&gt;</xsl:text>
> </xsl:template>
> </xsl:stylesheet>
> 
> 
> Francisco Tapia wrote:
> 
> >Ok, so I have a webservices that returns an XML reocordset.  I'd like
> >to save that recordset w/ ado to an XML file... anybody have any
> >samples?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 


-- 
-Francisco
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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jul  2 12:18:45 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 13:18:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
In-Reply-To: <b874372a0507011658e31bac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200507021718.j62HImR18194@databaseadvisors.com>

I'm working on an inherited app which contains one huge table with numerous
fields, distributed in groups across about 6 tabs. There are no subforms --
the whole form displays just one row -- 20 controls on the first tab page,
20 on the second, etc.

Whenever I move the mouse over the form, most or all of the controls on the
displayed tab page sort of jiggle or shimmer. They don't change values, and
it happens too quickly to think they are re-querying, but nevertheless it is
annoying. I've checked such event controls as keydown, onCurrent etc. and
nothing looks as if it's causing this annoying behaviour. Is it possibly
just because there are so many controls?

Incidentally, I plan to normalise this table and that may make this problem
of multiple nested tables inside one go away, but in the interim I'm
wondering about this.

Any clues where to look?

TIA,
Arthur



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Jul  2 12:57:55 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:57:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
Message-ID: <s2c6f1d9.035@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

Could it be the same issue that Erwin and Marty dealt with 2004-11-30:

  Form flickers like hell in A2K3

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 07/02 7:18 pm >>>
I'm working on an inherited app which contains one huge table with
numerous
fields, distributed in groups across about 6 tabs. There are no
subforms --
the whole form displays just one row -- 20 controls on the first tab
page,
20 on the second, etc.

Whenever I move the mouse over the form, most or all of the controls on
the
displayed tab page sort of jiggle or shimmer. They don't change values,
and
it happens too quickly to think they are re-querying, but nevertheless
it is
annoying. I've checked such event controls as keydown, onCurrent etc.
and
nothing looks as if it's causing this annoying behaviour. Is it
possibly
just because there are so many controls?

Incidentally, I plan to normalise this table and that may make this
problem
of multiple nested tables inside one go away, but in the interim I'm
wondering about this.

Any clues where to look?

TIA,
Arthur



From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jul  2 23:53:50 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:53:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
In-Reply-To: <s2c6f1d9.035@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200507030453.j634rkR21571@databaseadvisors.com>

I don't know about that, but will try to follow up that lead. What I do know
is that there are LOTS of controls on this form, all stemming from a single
table (it's more than 100, but I'm not sure of the exact count). Nuts table
structure, I readily admit, but that's not the point.

I think I'm going to try making the tabs invisible one by one and see at
what point the problem goes away.

Also, I have added a bunch of other forms to this app, some relatively
complex (i.e. a listbox that serves as a finder, to the left of a bunch of
columns copied from an autoform, and after that an embedded form/subform)
and these forms do not suffer from this flicker issue.

I'm guessing at this point that hiding one or more tabs on the form is going
to make the flicker go away. If correct, I will then reveal one more form
and start hiding individual controls to see at which number the flicker
appears. 

I will report results as soon as I have some.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: July 2, 2005 1:58 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

Hi Arthur

Could it be the same issue that Erwin and Marty dealt with 2004-11-30:

  Form flickers like hell in A2K3

/gustav




From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jul  2 23:59:26 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:59:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
In-Reply-To: <200507030453.j634rkR21571@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200507030459.j634xLR25256@databaseadvisors.com>

More on this...

I have just hidden all but two of the heavily populated tab pages, and I
still have the flicker. This is so strange it is beginning to interest me,
rather than being just an annoying problem. I'm going to rebuild this form
from scratch, page by page, and see where the flicker begins to happen. Many
unbillable hours, but at least I will know!

A.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: July 3, 2005 12:54 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

I don't know about that, but will try to follow up that lead. What I do know
is that there are LOTS of controls on this form, all stemming from a single
table (it's more than 100, but I'm not sure of the exact count). Nuts table
structure, I readily admit, but that's not the point.

I think I'm going to try making the tabs invisible one by one and see at
what point the problem goes away.

Also, I have added a bunch of other forms to this app, some relatively
complex (i.e. a listbox that serves as a finder, to the left of a bunch of
columns copied from an autoform, and after that an embedded form/subform)
and these forms do not suffer from this flicker issue.

I'm guessing at this point that hiding one or more tabs on the form is going
to make the flicker go away. If correct, I will then reveal one more form
and start hiding individual controls to see at which number the flicker
appears. 

I will report results as soon as I have some.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: July 2, 2005 1:58 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

Hi Arthur

Could it be the same issue that Erwin and Marty dealt with 2004-11-30:

  Form flickers like hell in A2K3

/gustav




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Jul  3 08:48:34 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (bchacc at san.rr.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:48:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
Message-ID: <97460-22005703134834456@M2W103.mail2web.com>


Arthur:

Check the archives.  I had this problem in an app and fixed it but can't
remember how at the moment. I'm on vacation this week and I'm not supposed
to work but if I get a chance later I'll look at that app and see if I can
remember what the tweak was.  IIRC it was somerthing pretty simple.

Rocky

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Arthur Fuller artful at rogers.com
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:59:26 -0400
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003


More on this...

I have just hidden all but two of the heavily populated tab pages, and I
still have the flicker. This is so strange it is beginning to interest me,
rather than being just an annoying problem. I'm going to rebuild this form
from scratch, page by page, and see where the flicker begins to happen. Many
unbillable hours, but at least I will know!

A.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: July 3, 2005 12:54 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

I don't know about that, but will try to follow up that lead. What I do know
is that there are LOTS of controls on this form, all stemming from a single
table (it's more than 100, but I'm not sure of the exact count). Nuts table
structure, I readily admit, but that's not the point.

I think I'm going to try making the tabs invisible one by one and see at
what point the problem goes away.

Also, I have added a bunch of other forms to this app, some relatively
complex (i.e. a listbox that serves as a finder, to the left of a bunch of
columns copied from an autoform, and after that an embedded form/subform)
and these forms do not suffer from this flicker issue.

I'm guessing at this point that hiding one or more tabs on the form is going
to make the flicker go away. If correct, I will then reveal one more form
and start hiding individual controls to see at which number the flicker
appears. 

I will report results as soon as I have some.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: July 2, 2005 1:58 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

Hi Arthur

Could it be the same issue that Erwin and Marty dealt with 2004-11-30:

  Form flickers like hell in A2K3

/gustav


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Jul  3 11:05:29 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:05:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
References: <97460-22005703134834456@M2W103.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <42C80CC9.2060204@shaw.ca>

I'll repost since I just got asked this on another list last week,
A more common problem than I thought on subforms with tab and label  
flicker.

You ain't gonna believe this but if running WinXP change your theme
by right-clicking your Windows XP desktop, choosing Properties, and
setting the Theme to "Windows Classic".
If you cannot solve it by deselecting Use Windows Themed Controls
on Forms under Tools | Options | Forms/Reports in Access 2003
The flickering or flutter goes away on my machine using Win XP Theme
Classic and Access 2003 and by deselecting above option
The flickering is triggered by unattached labels on the page of a
tab control. The workaround is to convert these labels to text boxes.
For non english speakers I found this by google searching on Screen
Flutter rather than Flicker.

For full explanation. and code to correct all forms if above tools
option method doesn't work
http://members.iinet.net.au/~allenbrowne/ser-46.html

bchacc at san.rr.com wrote:

>Arthur:
>
>Check the archives.  I had this problem in an app and fixed it but can't
>remember how at the moment. I'm on vacation this week and I'm not supposed
>to work but if I get a chance later I'll look at that app and see if I can
>remember what the tweak was.  IIRC it was somerthing pretty simple.
>
>Rocky
>
>Original Message:
>-----------------
>From: Arthur Fuller artful at rogers.com
>Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:59:26 -0400
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
>
>
>More on this...
>
>I have just hidden all but two of the heavily populated tab pages, and I
>still have the flicker. This is so strange it is beginning to interest me,
>rather than being just an annoying problem. I'm going to rebuild this form
>from scratch, page by page, and see where the flicker begins to happen. Many
>unbillable hours, but at least I will know!
>
>A.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
>Sent: July 3, 2005 12:54 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
>
>I don't know about that, but will try to follow up that lead. What I do know
>is that there are LOTS of controls on this form, all stemming from a single
>table (it's more than 100, but I'm not sure of the exact count). Nuts table
>structure, I readily admit, but that's not the point.
>
>I think I'm going to try making the tabs invisible one by one and see at
>what point the problem goes away.
>
>Also, I have added a bunch of other forms to this app, some relatively
>complex (i.e. a listbox that serves as a finder, to the left of a bunch of
>columns copied from an autoform, and after that an embedded form/subform)
>and these forms do not suffer from this flicker issue.
>
>I'm guessing at this point that hiding one or more tabs on the form is going
>to make the flicker go away. If correct, I will then reveal one more form
>and start hiding individual controls to see at which number the flicker
>appears. 
>
>I will report results as soon as I have some.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: July 2, 2005 1:58 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
>
>Hi Arthur
>
>Could it be the same issue that Erwin and Marty dealt with 2004-11-30:
>
>  Form flickers like hell in A2K3
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Jul  5 02:58:58 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:58:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507050750.j657nwr23701@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Hi

I am developing a VB.net app with A2K BE.  I will deploy .net framework
which provides all the data access to the mdb file.
My question is this....Can I use in my Access queries code such as left,
mid or specifically dateadd. 
Am I right in thinking these functions are part of VBA (which I do not
intend to deploy) and so on a clean machine ie. without any MS Access
that queries using these functions will bomb out - or will ADO.net/.net
handle accordingly?

TIA

Richard



From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  5 07:44:53 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:44:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
References: <200507050750.j657nwr23701@smarthost.yourcomms.net>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV182823D1A4E2B6378EF73BAEE60@phx.gbl>

VB.net and the Net framework include their own functionality, albeit at some 
speed penalty in the case of the framework  ...rather than dateadd, you 
could use the TimeSpan parameter in VB.net's .Add() method.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
To: "AccessD" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 3:58 AM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net


Hi

I am developing a VB.net app with A2K BE.  I will deploy .net framework
which provides all the data access to the mdb file.
My question is this....Can I use in my Access queries code such as left,
mid or specifically dateadd.
Am I right in thinking these functions are part of VBA (which I do not
intend to deploy) and so on a clean machine ie. without any MS Access
that queries using these functions will bomb out - or will ADO.net/.net
handle accordingly?

TIA

Richard

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Jul  5 08:21:20 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:21:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507051312.j65DCLr17648@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Do you know if my queries (stored procedures) that use say dateadd (ie
hard coded into the query) will fail?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: 05 July 2005 13:45
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K and .Net


VB.net and the Net framework include their own functionality, albeit at
some 
speed penalty in the case of the framework  ...rather than dateadd, you 
could use the TimeSpan parameter in VB.net's .Add() method.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
To: "AccessD" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 3:58 AM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net


Hi

I am developing a VB.net app with A2K BE.  I will deploy .net framework
which provides all the data access to the mdb file. My question is
this....Can I use in my Access queries code such as left, mid or
specifically dateadd. Am I right in thinking these functions are part of
VBA (which I do not intend to deploy) and so on a clean machine ie.
without any MS Access that queries using these functions will bomb out -
or will ADO.net/.net handle accordingly?

TIA

Richard

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jul  5 10:59:54 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:59:54 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D871@main2.marlow.com>

Does the form have a MouseMove event?  I know in Access 97, a mouse move
event will cause that sort of 'effect'.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003


I'm working on an inherited app which contains one huge table with numerous
fields, distributed in groups across about 6 tabs. There are no subforms --
the whole form displays just one row -- 20 controls on the first tab page,
20 on the second, etc.

Whenever I move the mouse over the form, most or all of the controls on the
displayed tab page sort of jiggle or shimmer. They don't change values, and
it happens too quickly to think they are re-querying, but nevertheless it is
annoying. I've checked such event controls as keydown, onCurrent etc. and
nothing looks as if it's causing this annoying behaviour. Is it possibly
just because there are so many controls?

Incidentally, I plan to normalise this table and that may make this problem
of multiple nested tables inside one go away, but in the interim I'm
wondering about this.

Any clues where to look?

TIA,
Arthur

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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Jul  5 11:37:43 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:37:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D871@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <200507051637.j65GblR30070@databaseadvisors.com>

No mousemove event either. Sorry.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: July 5, 2005 12:00 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

Does the form have a MouseMove event?  I know in Access 97, a mouse move
event will cause that sort of 'effect'.

Drew


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003


I'm working on an inherited app which contains one huge table with numerous
fields, distributed in groups across about 6 tabs. There are no subforms --
the whole form displays just one row -- 20 controls on the first tab page,
20 on the second, etc.

Whenever I move the mouse over the form, most or all of the controls on the
displayed tab page sort of jiggle or shimmer. They don't change values, and
it happens too quickly to think they are re-querying, but nevertheless it is
annoying. I've checked such event controls as keydown, onCurrent etc. and
nothing looks as if it's causing this annoying behaviour. Is it possibly
just because there are so many controls?

Incidentally, I plan to normalise this table and that may make this problem
of multiple nested tables inside one go away, but in the interim I'm
wondering about this.

Any clues where to look?

TIA,
Arthur




From papparuff at comcast.net  Tue Jul  5 11:44:20 2005
From: papparuff at comcast.net (papparuff at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:44:20 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
Message-ID: <070520051644.5299.42CAB8E40007B608000014B3220074567200009A9D0E9F9F0E9F@comcast.net>

Do you have  a form header and/or form footer. If so, also check their mousemove events.

--
John V. Ruff ? The Eternal Optimist :-) 



-------------- Original message -------------- 

> No mousemove event either. Sorry. 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com 
> Sent: July 5, 2005 12:00 PM 
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003 
> 
> Does the form have a MouseMove event? I know in Access 97, a mouse move 
> event will cause that sort of 'effect'. 
> 
> Drew 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:19 PM 
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
> Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003 
> 
> 
> I'm working on an inherited app which contains one huge table with numerous 
> fields, distributed in groups across about 6 tabs. There are no subforms -- 
> the whole form displays just one row -- 20 controls on the first tab page, 
> 20 on the second, etc. 
> 
> Whenever I move the mouse over the form, most or all of the controls on the 
> displayed tab page sort of jiggle or shimmer. They don't change values, and 
> it happens too quickly to think they are re-querying, but nevertheless it is 
> annoying. I've checked such event controls as keydown, onCurrent etc. and 
> nothing looks as if it's causing this annoying behaviour. Is it possibly 
> just because there are so many controls? 
> 
> Incidentally, I plan to normalise this table and that may make this problem 
> of multiple nested tables inside one go away, but in the interim I'm 
> wondering about this. 
> 
> Any clues where to look? 
> 
> TIA, 
> Arthur 
> 
> 
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From KIsmert at texassystems.com  Tue Jul  5 12:38:16 2005
From: KIsmert at texassystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:38:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <B7C87D3ABC87FC4E8CFE054CE2E8868A0A2CC9@aries.TexasSystems.local>

Yes, they will fail. This is not unique to .NET. Simply put, if you open
a Jet database using DAO, ADO, or ADO.NET, any queries that reference
VBA functions like DateAdd will fail. 

Your earlier thinking was correct: to get DateAdd to work in a query,
you would need Access installed on the machine, and would have to open
it via automation. The Access application instance would then provide
the VBA environment required to make sense of VBA function calls.

.NET won't interpret the function calls, nor can you substitute .NET
functions. This is because your ADO calls are going to a separate Jet
server instance, which has no knowledge of the context in which it is
called. 

In short, you are limited to native Jet SQL for your queries. This
includes the aggregate functions like Sum and Avg, mathematical
operators and string concatenation, and the expressions Between, In and
Like. You may also be able to extend your reach by using the ODBC Scalar
functions, although I haven't tried this.

-Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net

Do you know if my queries (stored procedures) that use say dateadd (ie
hard coded into the query) will fail?



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Jul  5 13:08:22 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:08:22 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723376C0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Sub queries are another solution that can provide criteria for queries in
cases where functions won't work. For example, I use a sub query to fetch
current month and year from a period table.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Ismert [mailto:KIsmert at texassystems.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 12:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net


Yes, they will fail. This is not unique to .NET. Simply put, if you open
a Jet database using DAO, ADO, or ADO.NET, any queries that reference
VBA functions like DateAdd will fail. 

Your earlier thinking was correct: to get DateAdd to work in a query,
you would need Access installed on the machine, and would have to open
it via automation. The Access application instance would then provide
the VBA environment required to make sense of VBA function calls.

.NET won't interpret the function calls, nor can you substitute .NET
functions. This is because your ADO calls are going to a separate Jet
server instance, which has no knowledge of the context in which it is
called. 

In short, you are limited to native Jet SQL for your queries. This
includes the aggregate functions like Sum and Avg, mathematical
operators and string concatenation, and the expressions Between, In and
Like. You may also be able to extend your reach by using the ODBC Scalar
functions, although I haven't tried this.

-Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net

Do you know if my queries (stored procedures) that use say dateadd (ie
hard coded into the query) will fail?

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 15:48:16 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:48:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <b874372a050705134754bd779e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706065840.02ad84e0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<b874372a050705134754bd779e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a05070513486901d63@mail.gmail.com>

Access 2000? I seem to remember you need to have SR1a installed...
Additionally because you're trying to make it a bound form, I think I
converted the field from nvarchar to ntext. The Front End will then
handle it correctly for what it's worth moving up to A2003 makes this
whole point moot.



On 7/5/05, David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:
> I have tried the archives but cant find anything.  Francisco - can you
> remember what the subject was?
>
> David
>
> At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
> >This is a known issue. If you search the archives for Francisco Tapia name
> >you might find the right answer.
> >
> >But if I remember correctly, you have to do your final select with that
> >field cast as a Text, so Access (trying to be too smart) will not truncate
> >what it considers a text field and then assumes it is a memo field.
> >
> >David
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
> >Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:08 PM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
> >
> >
> >Yes - Access XP adp, SQL2000.
> >
> >David
> >
> >At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
> > >Are you working in an .adp?
> > >
> > >Susan H.
> > >
> > >Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually
> >type
> > >in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.
> >
--
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Jul  5 15:58:54 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 08:58:54 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <b874372a050705134754bd779e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706065840.02ad84e0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<b874372a050705134754bd779e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706085357.02affac0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks Francisco.

It is actually Access XP and it is an ADP.  I do have the service packs 
installed.

I changed the field to ntext and it works!

Thanks.

At 6/07/2005, you wrote:
>Access 2000? I seem to remember you need to have SR1a installed...
>Additionally because you're trying to make it a bound form, I think I
>converted the field from nvarchar to ntext. The Front End will then
>handle it correctly for what it's worth moving up to A2003 makes this
>whole point moot.
>
>
>
>On 7/5/05, David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:
> > I have tried the archives but cant find anything.  Francisco - can you
> > remember what the subject was?
> >
> > David
> >
> > At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
> > >This is a known issue. If you search the archives for Francisco Tapia name
> > >you might find the right answer.
> > >
> > >But if I remember correctly, you have to do your final select with that
> > >field cast as a Text, so Access (trying to be too smart) will not truncate
> > >what it considers a text field and then assumes it is a memo field.
> > >
> > >David
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
> > >Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:08 PM
> > >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
> > >
> > >
> > >Yes - Access XP adp, SQL2000.
> > >
> > >David
> > >
> > >At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
> > > >Are you working in an .adp?
> > > >
> > > >Susan H.
> > > >
> > > >Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually
> > >type
> > > >in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.
> > >
>--
>-Francisco
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>http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...



From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Jul  5 19:03:29 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:03:29 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA883534D08@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

This is caused by the new "feature"  of non associated controls
When controls such as labels are 'orphaned' i.e. have no parent control
like a TextBox etc
You get this shimmer/flicker effect when your mouse moves over them
It's a real PITA
Anyway...
In design view select one of them (An unassociated controls like a
label) 
A small yellow warning icon will appear to the left or right of the
'orphaned' control 
alerting you to the fact it is an orphaned control. :-))
Click on that icon and a menu list will appear. Choose associate (if you
want) or ignore error.
That should get rid of the flicker in run time.

If you don't see these little yellow warning icons when you click on a
control in design view
Go to TOOLS|OPTIONS|ERROR CHECKING
And put a check in each of the boxes. Close and start the app again.
Then  go back into design view. You should see the Yellow warning icon I
speak of.

Hope this is the solution

See ya

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

No mousemove event either. Sorry.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: July 5, 2005 12:00 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

Does the form have a MouseMove event?  I know in Access 97, a mouse move
event will cause that sort of 'effect'.

Drew


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003


I'm working on an inherited app which contains one huge table with
numerous fields, distributed in groups across about 6 tabs. There are no
subforms -- the whole form displays just one row -- 20 controls on the
first tab page, 20 on the second, etc.

Whenever I move the mouse over the form, most or all of the controls on
the displayed tab page sort of jiggle or shimmer. They don't change
values, and it happens too quickly to think they are re-querying, but
nevertheless it is annoying. I've checked such event controls as
keydown, onCurrent etc. and nothing looks as if it's causing this
annoying behaviour. Is it possibly just because there are so many
controls?

Incidentally, I plan to normalise this table and that may make this
problem of multiple nested tables inside one go away, but in the interim
I'm wondering about this.

Any clues where to look?

TIA,
Arthur


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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Jul  5 21:00:03 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:00:03 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP address
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA883534DB9@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Guys
Way OT, but I wanna code it into an app.
On some WebPages we are forced to logon to a web site using
the standard Web version of a logon box comes up asking for the
User Name and password for that site. (These are NOT sites I or we have
designed)

It's the generic one
See a screen dump at 
http://tripledee.com.au/accessd/Generic_Logon.jpg

Anyway...my question is this
I can pass credentials to an ftp session by doing something like this

ftp://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au

Cool

When I try the same syntax using
http://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au
In an attempt to bypass the screen in the screen dump it fails.

Does anyone know a way to do it?

Many thanks

Darren


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Jul  6 02:40:44 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:40:44 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP address
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5D20@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

When using the url format you are sending username and password in plain
text format (un-encrypted).
The special dialogbox to enter your username/password is there to send
you password encrypted over the internet.
Probably your webserver refuses un-encrypted passwords, which is a good
thing.

I'm not aware of a technique to workaround this...
I think that just the point of not beeing able to do this for security
reasons.

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:00 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP
address

Hi Guys
Way OT, but I wanna code it into an app.
On some WebPages we are forced to logon to a web site using the standard
Web version of a logon box comes up asking for the User Name and
password for that site. (These are NOT sites I or we have
designed)

It's the generic one
See a screen dump at
http://tripledee.com.au/accessd/Generic_Logon.jpg

Anyway...my question is this
I can pass credentials to an ftp session by doing something like this

ftp://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au

Cool

When I try the same syntax using
http://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au
In an attempt to bypass the screen in the screen dump it fails.

Does anyone know a way to do it?

Many thanks

Darren
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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Wed Jul  6 04:06:21 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Ken
thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and this would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access BE they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an instance each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?  
 
I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled , maybe someone can offer a solution.......
 
 
I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g. 01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
 
Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls between these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return this record.
 
Thanks
Richard

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Ken Ismert
Sent: Tue 05/07/2005 18:38
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net



Yes, they will fail. This is not unique to .NET. Simply put, if you open
a Jet database using DAO, ADO, or ADO.NET, any queries that reference
VBA functions like DateAdd will fail.

Your earlier thinking was correct: to get DateAdd to work in a query,
you would need Access installed on the machine, and would have to open
it via automation. The Access application instance would then provide
the VBA environment required to make sense of VBA function calls.

.NET won't interpret the function calls, nor can you substitute .NET
functions. This is because your ADO calls are going to a separate Jet
server instance, which has no knowledge of the context in which it is
called.

In short, you are limited to native Jet SQL for your queries. This
includes the aggregate functions like Sum and Avg, mathematical
operators and string concatenation, and the expressions Between, In and
Like. You may also be able to extend your reach by using the ODBC Scalar
functions, although I haven't tried this.

-Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net

Do you know if my queries (stored procedures) that use say dateadd (ie
hard coded into the query) will fail?

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul  6 10:33:08 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:33:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A564@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If you want to use Access functions, you need to be *in* Access.
However, if the environment doesn't support those functions, they won't
work anyhow.  Left, Mid, etc., are VBA functions, not Access functions,
and trying to use VBA functions in managed code in .Net can give you
entirely unexpected results even when you don't get an outright error.
Is there a reason you are reluctant to change the queries?  

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net


Ken
thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the
VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access
session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and this
would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access BE
they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an instance
each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?  
 
I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled ,
maybe someone can offer a solution.......
 
 
I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g.
01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
 
Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function
calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would
return this record.
 
Thanks
Richard

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Ken Ismert
Sent: Tue 05/07/2005 18:38
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net



Yes, they will fail. This is not unique to .NET. Simply put, if you open
a Jet database using DAO, ADO, or ADO.NET, any queries that reference
VBA functions like DateAdd will fail.

Your earlier thinking was correct: to get DateAdd to work in a query,
you would need Access installed on the machine, and would have to open
it via automation. The Access application instance would then provide
the VBA environment required to make sense of VBA function calls.

.NET won't interpret the function calls, nor can you substitute .NET
functions. This is because your ADO calls are going to a separate Jet
server instance, which has no knowledge of the context in which it is
called.

In short, you are limited to native Jet SQL for your queries. This
includes the aggregate functions like Sum and Avg, mathematical
operators and string concatenation, and the expressions Between, In and
Like. You may also be able to extend your reach by using the ODBC Scalar
functions, although I haven't tried this.

-Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net

Do you know if my queries (stored procedures) that use say dateadd (ie
hard coded into the query) will fail?

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Wed Jul  6 13:10:42 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:10:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
In-Reply-To: <200507061700.j66H0CR13813@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200507061700.j66H0CR13813@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050706130915.022756d0@pop3.highstream.net>

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the VBA 
>dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access 
>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled , 
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g. 
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function calls 
>[or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jul  6 18:13:20 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:13:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP address
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA883534DB9@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <42CC6590.3090507@shaw.ca>

Cannot Log On to Web Site Requiring Case-Sensitive User Name
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;228914

However it is more likely bet, that this is the cause if the the below 
IE security patch installed.
I think these series of  patches went in last year.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/832894/

Look under technical details of this IE patch

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS04-004.mspx
The following URL syntax is no longer supported in Internet Explorer or 
Windows Explorer after you install this software update:

http(s)://username:password at server/resource.ext

Details of workarounds for coding via WinInet or UrlMon is available 
below or how to do a registry hack to disable uid password suppresion.
A security update is available that modifies the default behavior of 
Internet Explorer for handling user information in HTTP and in HTTPS URLs

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;834489

I think you can also put the uid and password in an encrypted http 
header and use winhhtp or xmlhttp.


Darren Dick wrote:

>Hi Guys
>Way OT, but I wanna code it into an app.
>On some WebPages we are forced to logon to a web site using
>the standard Web version of a logon box comes up asking for the
>User Name and password for that site. (These are NOT sites I or we have
>designed)
>
>It's the generic one
>See a screen dump at 
>http://tripledee.com.au/accessd/Generic_Logon.jpg
>
>Anyway...my question is this
>I can pass credentials to an ftp session by doing something like this
>
>ftp://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au
>
>Cool
>
>When I try the same syntax using
>http://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au
>In an attempt to bypass the screen in the screen dump it fails.
>
>Does anyone know a way to do it?
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jul  6 18:30:25 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:30:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A564@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <42CC6991.1050205@shaw.ca>

This is just a maybe grasping at straws here but if you install Office 
2003 Update: Redistributable Primary Interop Assemblies
and If you are coming from dotNet and use these PIA's just maybe you can 
do it.
Shamil has used these.

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;897646&spid=2509&sid=global
And from these classes
Microsoft.Vbe.Interop.dll
Microsoft.Office.Interop.Access.dll
dao.dll

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dno2k3ta/html/OfficePrimaryInteropAssembliesFAQ.asp

Charlotte Foust wrote:

>If you want to use Access functions, you need to be *in* Access.
>However, if the environment doesn't support those functions, they won't
>work anyhow.  Left, Mid, etc., are VBA functions, not Access functions,
>and trying to use VBA functions in managed code in .Net can give you
>entirely unexpected results even when you don't get an outright error.
>Is there a reason you are reluctant to change the queries?  
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
>Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:06 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the
>VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access
>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and this
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access BE
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an instance
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?  
> 
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled ,
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
> 
> 
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g.
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
> 
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function
>calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
>between these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would
>return this record.
> 
>Thanks
>Richard
>
>________________________________
>
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Ken Ismert
>Sent: Tue 05/07/2005 18:38
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>
>
>
>Yes, they will fail. This is not unique to .NET. Simply put, if you open
>a Jet database using DAO, ADO, or ADO.NET, any queries that reference
>VBA functions like DateAdd will fail.
>
>Your earlier thinking was correct: to get DateAdd to work in a query,
>you would need Access installed on the machine, and would have to open
>it via automation. The Access application instance would then provide
>the VBA environment required to make sense of VBA function calls.
>
>.NET won't interpret the function calls, nor can you substitute .NET
>functions. This is because your ADO calls are going to a separate Jet
>server instance, which has no knowledge of the context in which it is
>called.
>
>In short, you are limited to native Jet SQL for your queries. This
>includes the aggregate functions like Sum and Avg, mathematical
>operators and string concatenation, and the expressions Between, In and
>Like. You may also be able to extend your reach by using the ODBC Scalar
>functions, although I haven't tried this.
>
>-Ken
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:21 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>
>Do you know if my queries (stored procedures) that use say dateadd (ie
>hard coded into the query) will fail?
>
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>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Jul  6 19:05:19 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:05:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP address
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA883535058@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Thanks to all who responded
Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP
address

Cannot Log On to Web Site Requiring Case-Sensitive User Name
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;228914

However it is more likely bet, that this is the cause if the the below
IE security patch installed.
I think these series of  patches went in last year.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/832894/

Look under technical details of this IE patch

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS04-004.mspx
The following URL syntax is no longer supported in Internet Explorer or
Windows Explorer after you install this software update:

http(s)://username:password at server/resource.ext

Details of workarounds for coding via WinInet or UrlMon is available
below or how to do a registry hack to disable uid password suppresion.
A security update is available that modifies the default behavior of
Internet Explorer for handling user information in HTTP and in HTTPS
URLs

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;834489

I think you can also put the uid and password in an encrypted http
header and use winhhtp or xmlhttp.


Darren Dick wrote:

>Hi Guys
>Way OT, but I wanna code it into an app.
>On some WebPages we are forced to logon to a web site using
>the standard Web version of a logon box comes up asking for the
>User Name and password for that site. (These are NOT sites I or we have
>designed)
>
>It's the generic one
>See a screen dump at 
>http://tripledee.com.au/accessd/Generic_Logon.jpg
>
>Anyway...my question is this
>I can pass credentials to an ftp session by doing something like this
>
>ftp://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au
>
>Cool
>
>When I try the same syntax using
>http://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au
>In an attempt to bypass the screen in the screen dump it fails.
>
>Does anyone know a way to do it?
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Wed Jul  6 22:04:26 2005
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:04:26 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MS Query
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29088B1E@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

A question from a local client - he uses MS Query.
 
<snip>
I have a defined range that I'm querying.  One column contains mainly numeric data but also some characters.  When I query this column it returns all rows that contain only numerals and blank rows that contain any characters. The number format for this column  is 'general'.  
Why doesn't MSQuery show the rows with characters in this column yet the next column is mainly characters and this one displays correctly?
 
Tried some other things and it seem that MS Query will return data from a column that contains both character or numerical entries but not both.  If you have more entries with any numerals then these cells with be displayed and no cells that have characters will be displayed.  It seems that query looks at what data is in the cells and displays one type or the other but not both.  I my case it's a list of product codes, an example of which is below.  In this example only the rows that had a character in it will be displayed.
What gives?
 
 
Product Code	
	
517	
0517bro	
0517bsa	
0517buf	
0517cre	
0517pwh	
0517whi	
1001	
1001bu	
1002	
1002BUF	
1003	
1003buf	
1005	
1005BUF	
1012	
1017bsa	
1017buf	
1017bufr	
1017cre	
1017gsl	
1017whi	
1019	
1030	
1099PMC	
</snip>
 
Stephen Bond

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jul  7 02:47:12 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:47:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <42CC6991.1050205@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0IJ800ADTYYRW1@l-daemon>

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim



From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Jul  7 03:13:07 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:13:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507070804.j67844r04045@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Hi

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo does work 

for example UnavailableFrom=07/07/2005 09:30
UnavailableTo=07/07/2005 19:30
Yourdate=07/07/2005 

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom is not satisfied

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stewart
Sent: 06 July 2005 19:11
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the 
>VBA
>dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access 
>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and
this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access
BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an
instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled ,
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g.
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function 
>calls
>[or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return
this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard


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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Jul  7 03:15:38 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:15:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507070806.j6786Zr04264@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Hi
<Is there a reason you are reluctant to change the queries?  >
No, just I was struggling to get the correct SQL criteria to work
without using DateAdd function or format function
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: 06 July 2005 16:33
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net


If you want to use Access functions, you need to be *in* Access.
However, if the environment doesn't support those functions, they won't
work anyhow.  Left, Mid, etc., are VBA functions, not Access functions,
and trying to use VBA functions in managed code in .Net can give you
entirely unexpected results even when you don't get an outright error.
Is there a reason you are reluctant to change the queries?  

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net


Ken
thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the
VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access
session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and this
would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access BE
they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an instance
each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?  
 
I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled ,
maybe someone can offer a solution.......
 
 
I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g.
01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
 
Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function
calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would
return this record.
 
Thanks
Richard

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Ken Ismert
Sent: Tue 05/07/2005 18:38
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net



Yes, they will fail. This is not unique to .NET. Simply put, if you open
a Jet database using DAO, ADO, or ADO.NET, any queries that reference
VBA functions like DateAdd will fail.

Your earlier thinking was correct: to get DateAdd to work in a query,
you would need Access installed on the machine, and would have to open
it via automation. The Access application instance would then provide
the VBA environment required to make sense of VBA function calls.

.NET won't interpret the function calls, nor can you substitute .NET
functions. This is because your ADO calls are going to a separate Jet
server instance, which has no knowledge of the context in which it is
called.

In short, you are limited to native Jet SQL for your queries. This
includes the aggregate functions like Sum and Avg, mathematical
operators and string concatenation, and the expressions Between, In and
Like. You may also be able to extend your reach by using the ODBC Scalar
functions, although I haven't tried this.

-Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net

Do you know if my queries (stored procedures) that use say dateadd (ie
hard coded into the query) will fail?

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Jul  7 03:23:56 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:23:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5D28@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you
also changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers
from the same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something
a while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done
by entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network
no longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being
worked on is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Thu Jul  7 04:03:49 2005
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:03:49 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Dishonest crosstab query 
Message-ID: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F75D@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

This crosstab query should arrive with 10 columns, but it makes 15. And some
of the fictitious columns have totals, so it isn't a matter of simply
deleting the unwanted columns. 

I think the fault lies in my join arrangement - but I can't spot it. 


		TRANSFORM Count(qryEmployees.Roots) AS Ethnicity
		SELECT qryEmpWorkers.DailyGrind AS Work
		FROM qryEmpWorkers INNER JOIN qryEmployees ON
qryEmpWorkers.EmployeeIDFK = qryEmployees.EmployeeID
		GROUP BY qryEmpWorkers.DailyGrind
		PIVOT qryEmployees.Roots;

Be grateful for guidance. 

Cheers paul 

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Jul  7 07:08:30 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:08:30 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL
Message-ID: <200507071248.j67CmAr23317@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Hi

Is there a way of exporting Access queries into SQL (the import from SQL
seems to over look the queries - is this correct?) _ I have a system
that has many queries and I preferable wish to avoid cut and paste.

I used to have a program (downloaded from somewhere) that would having
specified an mdb produce  code that created/recreated the completed db
(tables etc) - can't find this - anyone else come across this?

Thanks

Richard


From mikedorism at verizon.net  Thu Jul  7 08:28:31 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:28:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL
In-Reply-To: <200507071248.j67CmAr23317@smarthost.yourcomms.net>
Message-ID: <000601c582f7$c55ebb20$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

You can upsize the database to SQL and then use the upsize report results to
review all the queries that didn't make it.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com



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Richard
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:09 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL


Hi

Is there a way of exporting Access queries into SQL (the import from SQL
seems to over look the queries - is this correct?) _ I have a system that
has many queries and I preferable wish to avoid cut and paste.

I used to have a program (downloaded from somewhere) that would having
specified an mdb produce  code that created/recreated the completed db
(tables etc) - can't find this - anyone else come across this?

Thanks

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jul  7 09:04:00 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:04:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5D28@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <0IJ900N16GEP1K@l-daemon>

Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim   

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you
also changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers
from the same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something
a while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done
by entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network
no longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being
worked on is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Jul  7 09:49:43 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:49:43 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1279CC4F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim   

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Jul  7 09:53:00 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:53:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL
Message-ID: <200507071443.j67Ehur01837@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Thanks but only 3/4 out of 40+ of my procs/queries where  copied


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: 07 July 2005 14:29
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL


You can upsize the database to SQL and then use the upsize report
results to review all the queries that didn't make it.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com



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Richard
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:09 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL


Hi

Is there a way of exporting Access queries into SQL (the import from SQL
seems to over look the queries - is this correct?) _ I have a system
that has many queries and I preferable wish to avoid cut and paste.

I used to have a program (downloaded from somewhere) that would having
specified an mdb produce  code that created/recreated the completed db
(tables etc) - can't find this - anyone else come across this?

Thanks

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jul  7 10:22:48 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:22:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B01@infoserver01.infostat.local>

No, it wouldn't be.  YourDate is the equivalent of 07/07/2005 00:00,
since dates always have a time component and the default is midnight.
So YourDate would be less than UnavailableFrom.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


Hi

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo does work 

for example UnavailableFrom=07/07/2005 09:30 UnavailableTo=07/07/2005
19:30 Yourdate=07/07/2005 

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom is not satisfied

Richard

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stewart
Sent: 06 July 2005 19:11
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the
>VBA
>dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access 
>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and
this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access
BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an
instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled , 
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g. 
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function
>calls
>[or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return
this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard


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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Jul  7 10:38:16 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:38:16 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507071529.j67FTCr05237@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

I have now managed (I think) to get the correct SQL.

If D1 is the date to check then I need to supply D2 as a parameter as
well with D2= D1 + 1 day (so we get 07/07/2005 00:00  and 08/07/2005
00:00 for D1,D2)

So we check if 

 (UnavailableFrom between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableTo between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableFrom<=D1<= UnavailableTo)

If any is true then we know the date (D1) falls between the date range
UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo
Richard



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: 07 July 2005 16:23
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


No, it wouldn't be.  YourDate is the equivalent of 07/07/2005 00:00,
since dates always have a time component and the default is midnight. So
YourDate would be less than UnavailableFrom.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


Hi

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo does work 

for example UnavailableFrom=07/07/2005 09:30 UnavailableTo=07/07/2005
19:30 Yourdate=07/07/2005 

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom is not satisfied

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stewart
Sent: 06 July 2005 19:11
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the 
>VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access
>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and
this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access
BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an
instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled ,
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g.
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function 
>calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return
this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard


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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Thu Jul  7 10:56:55 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:56:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL
In-Reply-To: <200507071443.j67Ehur01837@smarthost.yourcomms.net>
Message-ID: <002701c5830c$80703290$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

For those that weren't copied, you will have to cut/paste or manually create
them because you need to examine why they didn't port over.  In most of my
cases, it boiled down to a parameter issue between how Access does things
and how SQL does them.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL


Thanks but only 3/4 out of 40+ of my procs/queries where  copied


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: 07 July 2005 14:29
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL


You can upsize the database to SQL and then use the upsize report results to
review all the queries that didn't make it.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:09 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL


Hi

Is there a way of exporting Access queries into SQL (the import from SQL
seems to over look the queries - is this correct?) _ I have a system that
has many queries and I preferable wish to avoid cut and paste.

I used to have a program (downloaded from somewhere) that would having
specified an mdb produce  code that created/recreated the completed db
(tables etc) - can't find this - anyone else come across this?

Thanks

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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Thu Jul  7 10:59:25 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:59:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
In-Reply-To: <200507071529.j67FTCr05237@smarthost.yourcomms.net>
Message-ID: <002801c5830c$d9807d90$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

You don't need to supply D2 as a parameter, you could let the sproc
calculate it for you.

DECLARE D2 datetime

SET D2 = DateAdd(d, 1, D1)

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


I have now managed (I think) to get the correct SQL.

If D1 is the date to check then I need to supply D2 as a parameter as well
with D2= D1 + 1 day (so we get 07/07/2005 00:00  and 08/07/2005 00:00 for
D1,D2)

So we check if 

 (UnavailableFrom between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableTo between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableFrom<=D1<= UnavailableTo)

If any is true then we know the date (D1) falls between the date range
UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo Richard



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: 07 July 2005 16:23
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


No, it wouldn't be.  YourDate is the equivalent of 07/07/2005 00:00, since
dates always have a time component and the default is midnight. So YourDate
would be less than UnavailableFrom.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


Hi

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo does work 

for example UnavailableFrom=07/07/2005 09:30 UnavailableTo=07/07/2005 19:30
Yourdate=07/07/2005 

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom is not satisfied

Richard

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Stewart
Sent: 06 July 2005 19:11
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the
>VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access
>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and
this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access
BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an
instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled , 
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g. 
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function
>calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return
this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard


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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Thu Jul  7 11:02:45 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:02:45 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] E-Signatures and Audit Trails
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3A4@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

2 of the Access 2000 database systems that we use here are currently being
reviewed to determine if they need to be compliant to the FDA regulation 21
CFR Part 11 (Electronic Records; Electronic Signatures).
My prediction is that the answer will be yes.

With that said, I need to find a way to incorporate e-signatures and audit
trails into our systems.
I would hate to reinvent the wheel if someone has already tackled this
problem and is willing to share. :)

Does anyone have a solution for this that I could incorporate into our
existing system that they would be will to share/sell?
Or does anyone know of a site that shares/sells this kind of solution?

Thanks!
JR




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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jul  7 11:03:14 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:03:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1279CC4F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
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I agree. I think its because of the way w98 announces and caches P2P
computers and shares. If you remove the share from the troublesome PCs and
then add a new share it will probably show up. You can sometimes force it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.

HTH
John B.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim   

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jul  7 11:04:38 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:04:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B04@infoserver01.infostat.local>

So you're checking a single day to see if a given date (unavailableFrom
or UnavailableTo) falls within that day?

Charlotte Foust


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From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


I have now managed (I think) to get the correct SQL.

If D1 is the date to check then I need to supply D2 as a parameter as
well with D2= D1 + 1 day (so we get 07/07/2005 00:00  and 08/07/2005
00:00 for D1,D2)

So we check if 

 (UnavailableFrom between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableTo between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableFrom<=D1<= UnavailableTo)

If any is true then we know the date (D1) falls between the date range
UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo Richard



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: 07 July 2005 16:23
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


No, it wouldn't be.  YourDate is the equivalent of 07/07/2005 00:00,
since dates always have a time component and the default is midnight. So
YourDate would be less than UnavailableFrom.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


Hi

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo does work 

for example UnavailableFrom=07/07/2005 09:30 UnavailableTo=07/07/2005
19:30 Yourdate=07/07/2005 

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom is not satisfied

Richard

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stewart
Sent: 06 July 2005 19:11
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the
>VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access
>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and
this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access
BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an
instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled , 
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g. 
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function
>calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return
this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  7 12:20:10 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:20:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <200507071603.j67G3HVL100342@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFMEEMDOAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

<<You can sometimes force it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.>>

  A better way to refresh is to drop to the DOS prompt and do:

  NBTSTAT -R

  You can also use NBTSTAT to see what's going on (use it with no switch to
see all the options). NBTSTAT lets you look at each machines name cache
table.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


I agree. I think its because of the way w98 announces and caches P2P
computers and shares. If you remove the share from the troublesome PCs and
then add a new share it will probably show up. You can sometimes force it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.

HTH
John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network.

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From DElam at jenkens.com  Thu Jul  7 13:26:32 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:26:32 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492CAAE@natexch.jenkens.com>

I did not want Alan to be deprived of another poker story.  This should have
a new entry daily for about a week.

http://www.slate.com/id/2122188/entry/0/

Debbie



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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jul  7 14:09:07 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:09:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary
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Wrong list Debbie :o) 

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:27 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary

I did not want Alan to be deprived of another poker story.  This should have
a new entry daily for about a week.

http://www.slate.com/id/2122188/entry/0/

Debbie



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From darsant at gmail.com  Thu Jul  7 14:12:18 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:12:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] E-Signatures and Audit Trails
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3A4@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
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Message-ID: <53c8e05a05070712125c5cd808@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/7/05, Joe Rojas <JRojas at tnco-inc.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> 2 of the Access 2000 database systems that we use here are currently being
> reviewed to determine if they need to be compliant to the FDA regulation 21
> CFR Part 11 (Electronic Records; Electronic Signatures).
> My prediction is that the answer will be yes.
> 
> With that said, I need to find a way to incorporate e-signatures and audit
> trails into our systems.
> I would hate to reinvent the wheel if someone has already tackled this
> problem and is willing to share. :)
> 
> Does anyone have a solution for this that I could incorporate into our
> existing system that they would be will to share/sell?
> Or does anyone know of a site that shares/sells this kind of solution?
> 
> Thanks!
> JR

Depends on how you want to do it, and how picky they are.

We set up a generic table with timestamp and a few other fields, then
made a function that could be put before any common database updates
(order processing, payments, etc) that added a record to the
transaction table via the function. We made a more specialized one for
inventory tracking and billing changes. Only downside is you've got to
add it anywhere you touch the data you want to track.

It's not the most secure thing, as someone could still go into the
audit table and mess with the entries, but it helped us when we had
something die on the code side and had to reconstruct the previous
data.

-- 
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jul  7 14:23:48 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:23:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Querydef weirdness
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABECAC@ADGSERVER>

Ok, one of my classic stupid Access issues.

I'm using Access XP.  The scenario is I have a form that has a combo box
with projects in it.  I use a union query to add '(All)' to the top of the
list.  When the user selects (All), we want the output to contain all of the
projects.  Otherwise only the project the user has selected.

For this one report, I have this in the where part of the query:

Iif([forms]![FormData]![ProjectID]=0,[project].[projectid],[forms]![FormData
]![ProjectID])

This basically comes out as 'where projectid=projectid' if the
Formdata!ProjectID is 0 
and 'where projectid=[forms]![FormData]![ProjectID]' if the
Formdata!ProjectID is not 0 .

This works fine when running the query by itself or from the report.  Well
the user wanted the sum of the data on the chooser form when a project (or
'(All)' is selected.  So I run the query via a querydef and I get the
infamous 'expected 1 parameters' error message.  If I remove the where part
of the query, it runs fine from the querydef.

I talked to a co-worker and he has had problems accessing forms from a query
in a querydef too.  Has anyone else run into this?  Anyone have a
work-a-round?

Thanks,
Bobby



From DElam at jenkens.com  Thu Jul  7 14:33:30 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:33:30 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492CAB2@natexch.jenkens.com>

Sorry!  I thought I was sending to OT.  Guess I did not pay attention to the
address since they are together.

Debbie

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary


Wrong list Debbie :o) 

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary

I did not want Alan to be deprived of another poker story.  This should have
a new entry daily for about a week.

http://www.slate.com/id/2122188/entry/0/

Debbie



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jul  7 14:33:56 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:33:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1279CC4F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <0IJ900M12VOMFU@l-daemon>

Hi Lambert:

After renaming the computers we could not get the machines to recognize each
other on the network. We had turn-off and on each system a couple of times.
This morning when I can in the computers were now communicating.... 

Anyway the system is now working just fine and I am not sure why it was not,
before but it now is. Must be from living right.

Thanks for the message and help. Now I feel a little silly.

Have a good day.
Jim 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim   

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jul  7 14:42:09 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:42:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <200507071603.j67G3HVL100342@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <0IJ90030CW2C44@l-daemon>

Hi John:

Problem seems to have resolved it's self. See previous email for details.
Maybe it is a Win98 thing.

Thanks for your help and suggestions.
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:03 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I agree. I think its because of the way w98 announces and caches P2P
computers and shares. If you remove the share from the troublesome PCs and
then add a new share it will probably show up. You can sometimes force it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.

HTH
John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Jul  7 14:44:22 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:44:22 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Querydef weirdness
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABECAC@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <42CE12B6.22139.6DF5027@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 7 Jul 2005 at 15:23, Bobby Heid wrote:

> This works fine when running the query by itself or from the report.  Well
> the user wanted the sum of the data on the chooser form when a project (or
> '(All)' is selected.  So I run the query via a querydef and I get the
> infamous 'expected 1 parameters' error message.  If I remove the where part
> of the query, it runs fine from the querydef.
> 
> I talked to a co-worker and he has had problems accessing forms from a query
> in a querydef too.  Has anyone else run into this?  

Frequently :-(

> Anyone have a  work-a-round?
> 

I use a static function to hold the value from the control which I set 
immediately before calling the query. Something like 

Static Function TempStore(Optional varInput As Variant) As Variant
    Dim varStore As Variant
    
    'Initialise the variant if the function is called
    'the first time with no Input
    If varStore = Empty Then varStore = Null
    
    'Update the store if the Input is present
    If Not IsMissing(varInput) Then varStore = varInput
    
    'return the stored value
    TempStore = varStore
End Function

Replace [forms]![FormData]![ProjectID] with TempStore() in the query and 
use

"TempStore [ProjectID]" just before you call the query.







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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jul  7 14:45:31 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:45:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492CAB2@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <200507071945.j67JjYpM157966@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>

I figured, that's OK. Making a little slip-up on AccessD is better than
making one over on OT!
;-)

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Elam, Debbie
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary

Sorry!  I thought I was sending to OT.  Guess I did not pay attention to the
address since they are together.

Debbie



From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jul  7 14:58:22 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:58:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFMEEMDOAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0IJ900926WTDVN@l-daemon>

Thanks for that Jim.

That was the item that I could just not remember. The site starting working
after it sat on over-night so the system must refresh it's after a certain
amount of time passes. The nbstat -R command would do the same instantly. I
will not forget it for another few years.

Thanks again
Jim 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

<<You can sometimes force it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.>>

  A better way to refresh is to drop to the DOS prompt and do:

  NBTSTAT -R

  You can also use NBTSTAT to see what's going on (use it with no switch to
see all the options). NBTSTAT lets you look at each machines name cache
table.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


I agree. I think its because of the way w98 announces and caches P2P
computers and shares. If you remove the share from the troublesome PCs and
then add a new share it will probably show up. You can sometimes force it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.

HTH
John B.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network.

Erwin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Jul  7 15:18:16 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:18:16 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to Clipboard error
	message?
Message-ID: <e8b1c95cca754a58835beaa83b684523@christopherhawkins.com>

We may have discussed this in years past, I don't recall.

A client with a mission-critical but shoddily-written Access app ( a situation we're all far, far too familiar with) is having a problem with users stepping on one another's changes and getting that error message that says:

"This record has been changed by another user since you started editing it. If you save the record, you will overwrite the changes the other user made.

Copying the changes to the clipboard will let you look at the values the other user entered, and then paste your changes back in if you decide to make the changes. "

There's GOT to be a way to capture this message and either handle the conflict programmatically, or swap out a friendlier message, or both.? Even if it involves hooking into an API somewhere, there's GOT to be a way.

Has anyone done it, or know someone who has, or know where to find pointers on how to do it, or anything?

-C-

 


From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Jul  7 15:40:10 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:40:10 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1279CE4B@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I suspect that the reason was that Windows does not automatically refresh
the list of computers on the LAN. There's some time interval that it waits
before rebroadcasting them (if that's the right term), something around 30
minutes I think. So when you powered them all up the next day the network
found all the new computer names.

Something like that anyway. Jim might have a better explanation.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Lambert:

After renaming the computers we could not get the machines to recognize each
other on the network. We had turn-off and on each system a couple of times.
This morning when I can in the computers were now communicating.... 

Anyway the system is now working just fine and I am not sure why it was not,
before but it now is. Must be from living right.

Thanks for the message and help. Now I feel a little silly.

Have a good day.
Jim 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Jul  7 15:50:37 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:50:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to Clipboard
	errormessage?
In-Reply-To: <13657529.1120768134626.JavaMail.root@sniper23>
Message-ID: <000001c58335$8c270540$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Christopher,

If you set the database to Edited Record, then users can't step on each
other's toes.  When one user begins to edit a record, all others are
prevented from beginning to make any changes until the first user's changes
are saved to the table.

HTH,
Dan Waters

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to Clipboard
errormessage?

We may have discussed this in years past, I don't recall.

A client with a mission-critical but shoddily-written Access app ( a
situation we're all far, far too familiar with) is having a problem with
users stepping on one another's changes and getting that error message that
says:

"This record has been changed by another user since you started editing it.
If you save the record, you will overwrite the changes the other user made.

Copying the changes to the clipboard will let you look at the values the
other user entered, and then paste your changes back in if you decide to
make the changes. "

There's GOT to be a way to capture this message and either handle the
conflict programmatically, or swap out a friendlier message, or both.? Even
if it involves hooking into an API somewhere, there's GOT to be a way.

Has anyone done it, or know someone who has, or know where to find pointers
on how to do it, or anything?

-C-


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Jul  7 15:58:59 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:58:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] E-Signatures and Audit Trails
In-Reply-To: <11043080.1120763740299.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
Message-ID: <000101c58336$b640a650$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Joe,

The FDA has CFR 21 Part 11 under review.  You should read this as it is now,
and also work with the Regulatory Manager to find out if he/she has a sense
of where the regulation is going to end up.  Sometimes they can get early
information.

Also review with the Reg Manager to see what they will need for documented
validation of the system.  This could be the lion's share of the work you'll
need to do.

Best of Luck!
Dan Waters


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] E-Signatures and Audit Trails

On 7/7/05, Joe Rojas <JRojas at tnco-inc.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> 2 of the Access 2000 database systems that we use here are currently being
> reviewed to determine if they need to be compliant to the FDA regulation
21
> CFR Part 11 (Electronic Records; Electronic Signatures).
> My prediction is that the answer will be yes.
> 
> With that said, I need to find a way to incorporate e-signatures and audit
> trails into our systems.
> I would hate to reinvent the wheel if someone has already tackled this
> problem and is willing to share. :)
> 
> Does anyone have a solution for this that I could incorporate into our
> existing system that they would be will to share/sell?
> Or does anyone know of a site that shares/sells this kind of solution?
> 
> Thanks!
> JR

Depends on how you want to do it, and how picky they are.

We set up a generic table with timestamp and a few other fields, then
made a function that could be put before any common database updates
(order processing, payments, etc) that added a record to the
transaction table via the function. We made a more specialized one for
inventory tracking and billing changes. Only downside is you've got to
add it anywhere you touch the data you want to track.

It's not the most secure thing, as someone could still go into the
audit table and mess with the entries, but it helped us when we had
something die on the code side and had to reconstruct the previous
data.

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  7 18:01:25 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:01:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1279CE4B@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFMEGPDOAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Lambert,

  Yeah that's about it.  When a machine boots up, one of the first things it
does is try to discover if there is a Master Browser on the subnet.  If no,
it elects itself.  If yes, then an arbitration process occurs to determine
which would be the better one.

  The Master Browser keeps the "official" list of what's on the subnet.
This is what you see when you browse network neighborhood. So if the master
browser is out of date or non-existent, you've got problems.  The NBTSTAT -R
clears the local table and requeries the master browser for a new list.

  This whole thing reminds me once again how good Microsoft is at taking old
technology and making it "new". The P2P built into Windows is actually the
old LAN Manager product LOL.  That's when we went from Win 3.1 to 3.11
(Windows for Workgroups).

Jim.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 4:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


I suspect that the reason was that Windows does not automatically refresh
the list of computers on the LAN. There's some time interval that it waits
before rebroadcasting them (if that's the right term), something around 30
minutes I think. So when you powered them all up the next day the network
found all the new computer names.

Something like that anyway. Jim might have a better explanation.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Lambert:

After renaming the computers we could not get the machines to recognize each
other on the network. We had turn-off and on each system a couple of times.
This morning when I can in the computers were now communicating....

Anyway the system is now working just fine and I am not sure why it was not,
before but it now is. Must be from living right.

Thanks for the message and help. Now I feel a little silly.

Have a good day.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network.

Erwin

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jul  7 18:07:37 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:07:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] E-Signatures and Audit Trails
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3A4@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <42CDB5B9.2010709@shaw.ca>

Couple of thoughts which may or may not be useful.

You might want to check through the ARMA site for general info
http://www.arma.org

Download a free 200 page e-book copy from Microsoft needs mail registration
Keeping Your Business Safe from Attack: Passwords and Permissions is a prescriptive guide to
implementing security best practices in a Windows network environment. Covers auditing and DRM

http://list.windowsitpro.com/t?ctl=DEBF:29783



I have seen  this method used to sign PDF forms with a key chain USB 
token which
probably could be adapted to Access, the USB contains a digital certificate.

http://www.formrouter.com/digital-signature/index.html


 By e-signatures do you mean something like a PGP key, digital 
certificate or a physical signature image
Here is a partial method to start capturing signature images, yo may 
need a tablet or some other input device.

Follow these steps to enable handwriting capabilities to Access.

1.  Download and install the TabletPC SDK from MS.  This will register 
the InkEdit
and InkPicture controls.
2.  Open Access and go to a form
3.  Select  the Additonal Controls icon and Select the Microsoft InkEdit or
Microsoft InkPicture
4.  Drop the control on the form , right click and select all.  All the
properties and methods will be exposed.

The InkEdit control is a superset of the RichText control. The InkEdit 
control is designed
to provide an easy way to capture, display, and recognize ink. InkEd.dll

How did you initially install the control by the Office XP Tablet PC Pack
or by the Ink SDK?


1.  Download and install the TabletPC SDK.  This will register the InkEdit
and InkPicture controls.
2.  Open Access and go to a form
3.  Select  the Additonal Controls icon and Select the Microsoft InkEdit or
Microsoft InkPicture
4.  Drop the control on the form , right click and select all.  All the
properties and methods will be exposed.

Maybe you can set a reference to "Microsoft InkEdit Control"

There should be a registry key set on non tablet pc's
the SDK installer sets the DWORD
        
\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\M?icrosoft\TabletPC\Controls\Ena?bleInkCollectionOnNonTablets 

to be equal to 1. 

If you are redistributing the mdb, this has to be set manually by your 
installer.

>Hi All,
>
>2 of the Access 2000 database systems that we use here are currently being
>reviewed to determine if they need to be compliant to the FDA regulation 21
>CFR Part 11 (Electronic Records; Electronic Signatures).
>My prediction is that the answer will be yes.
>
>With that said, I need to find a way to incorporate e-signatures and audit
>trails into our systems.
>I would hate to reinvent the wheel if someone has already tackled this
>problem and is willing to share. :)
>
>Does anyone have a solution for this that I could incorporate into our
>existing system that they would be will to share/sell?
>Or does anyone know of a site that shares/sells this kind of solution?
>
>Thanks!
>JR
>
>
>  
>

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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Jul  7 18:17:19 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:17:19 -0600
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to
	Clipboard errormessage?
Message-ID: <3120136ca7004a75a1fb171854b88b58@christopherhawkins.com>

Yes, I know about Edited Record.? The problem is that the creator didn't use it when the app was originally built, ?and due to the way this kludgey thing has evolved over the years, changing it to Edited Record now causes errors.

Hence my need for a way to hook into that error.

Surely someone at some point must have done this?

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:52 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to Clipboard errormessage? 

Christopher,

If you set the database to Edited Record, then users can't step on each
other's toes. When one user begins to edit a record, all others are
prevented from beginning to make any changes until the first user's changes
are saved to the table.

HTH,
Dan Waters

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Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to Clipboard
errormessage?

We may have discussed this in years past, I don't recall.

A client with a mission-critical but shoddily-written Access app ( a
situation we're all far, far too familiar with) is having a problem with
users stepping on one another's changes and getting that error message that
says:

"This record has been changed by another user since you started editing it.
If you save the record, you will overwrite the changes the other user made.

Copying the changes to the clipboard will let you look at the values the
other user entered, and then paste your changes back in if you decide to
make the changes. "

There's GOT to be a way to capture this message and either handle the
conflict programmatically, or swap out a friendlier message, or both.? Even
if it involves hooking into an API somewhere, there's GOT to be a way.

Has anyone done it, or know someone who has, or know where to find pointers
on how to do it, or anything?

-C-

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jul  7 20:53:59 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:53:59 -0700
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy
	toClipboard errormessage?
In-Reply-To: <3120136ca7004a75a1fb171854b88b58@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <0IJA00MNVDA215@l-daemon>

Hi Christopher:

Have you checked out the Forms events like Form_AfterUpdate,
Form_AfterInsert or Form_Error to see if you can catch the errors there?

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 4:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: re: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy
toClipboard errormessage?

Yes, I know about Edited Record.? The problem is that the creator didn't use
it when the app was originally built, ?and due to the way this kludgey thing
has evolved over the years, changing it to Edited Record now causes errors.

Hence my need for a way to hook into that error.

Surely someone at some point must have done this?

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:52 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to
Clipboard errormessage? 

Christopher,

If you set the database to Edited Record, then users can't step on each
other's toes. When one user begins to edit a record, all others are
prevented from beginning to make any changes until the first user's changes
are saved to the table.

HTH,
Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to Clipboard
errormessage?

We may have discussed this in years past, I don't recall.

A client with a mission-critical but shoddily-written Access app ( a
situation we're all far, far too familiar with) is having a problem with
users stepping on one another's changes and getting that error message that
says:

"This record has been changed by another user since you started editing it.
If you save the record, you will overwrite the changes the other user made.

Copying the changes to the clipboard will let you look at the values the
other user entered, and then paste your changes back in if you decide to
make the changes. "

There's GOT to be a way to capture this message and either handle the
conflict programmatically, or swap out a friendlier message, or both.? Even
if it involves hooking into an API somewhere, there's GOT to be a way.

Has anyone done it, or know someone who has, or know where to find pointers
on how to do it, or anything?

-C-

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Fri Jul  8 04:47:40 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:47:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507080938.j689car26789@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Doris
As per intial email, I can't use DateAdd as this is a VBA function and
my vb.net FE/A2K BE will bomb out (not havinf MS Access/VBA etc
installed)

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: 07 July 2005 16:59
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


You don't need to supply D2 as a parameter, you could let the sproc
calculate it for you.

DECLARE D2 datetime

SET D2 = DateAdd(d, 1, D1)

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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Richard
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


I have now managed (I think) to get the correct SQL.

If D1 is the date to check then I need to supply D2 as a parameter as
well with D2= D1 + 1 day (so we get 07/07/2005 00:00  and 08/07/2005
00:00 for
D1,D2)

So we check if 

 (UnavailableFrom between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableTo between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableFrom<=D1<= UnavailableTo)

If any is true then we know the date (D1) falls between the date range
UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: 07 July 2005 16:23
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


No, it wouldn't be.  YourDate is the equivalent of 07/07/2005 00:00,
since dates always have a time component and the default is midnight. So
YourDate would be less than UnavailableFrom.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


Hi

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo does work 

for example UnavailableFrom=07/07/2005 09:30 UnavailableTo=07/07/2005
19:30 Yourdate=07/07/2005 

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom is not satisfied

Richard

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stewart
Sent: 06 July 2005 19:11
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the 
>VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access

>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and
this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access
BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an
instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled ,
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g.
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function 
>calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return
this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard


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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Fri Jul  8 04:49:21 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:49:21 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507080940.j689eHr26925@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Yes, simply people are booked away for dates/times and I wish to
highlight those people so they are not selected to carry out a job,
which takes place on a specific day.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: 07 July 2005 17:05
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


So you're checking a single day to see if a given date (unavailableFrom
or UnavailableTo) falls within that day?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


I have now managed (I think) to get the correct SQL.

If D1 is the date to check then I need to supply D2 as a parameter as
well with D2= D1 + 1 day (so we get 07/07/2005 00:00  and 08/07/2005
00:00 for D1,D2)

So we check if 

 (UnavailableFrom between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableTo between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableFrom<=D1<= UnavailableTo)

If any is true then we know the date (D1) falls between the date range
UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: 07 July 2005 16:23
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


No, it wouldn't be.  YourDate is the equivalent of 07/07/2005 00:00,
since dates always have a time component and the default is midnight. So
YourDate would be less than UnavailableFrom.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


Hi

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo does work 

for example UnavailableFrom=07/07/2005 09:30 UnavailableTo=07/07/2005
19:30 Yourdate=07/07/2005 

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom is not satisfied

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stewart
Sent: 06 July 2005 19:11
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the 
>VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access

>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and
this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access
BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an
instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled ,
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g.
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function 
>calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return
this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard


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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jul  8 06:41:51 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:41:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Querydef weirdness
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C149DE@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABECAE@ADGSERVER>

Stuart,

Thanks for the idea!

Bobby

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Querydef weirdness


On 7 Jul 2005 at 15:23, Bobby Heid wrote:

> This works fine when running the query by itself or from the report.  
> Well the user wanted the sum of the data on the chooser form when a 
> project (or '(All)' is selected.  So I run the query via a querydef 
> and I get the infamous 'expected 1 parameters' error message.  If I 
> remove the where part of the query, it runs fine from the querydef.
> 
> I talked to a co-worker and he has had problems accessing forms from a 
> query in a querydef too.  Has anyone else run into this?

Frequently :-(

> Anyone have a  work-a-round?
> 

I use a static function to hold the value from the control which I set 
immediately before calling the query. Something like 

Static Function TempStore(Optional varInput As Variant) As Variant
    Dim varStore As Variant
    
    'Initialise the variant if the function is called
    'the first time with no Input
    If varStore = Empty Then varStore = Null
    
    'Update the store if the Input is present
    If Not IsMissing(varInput) Then varStore = varInput
    
    'return the stored value
    TempStore = varStore
End Function

Replace [forms]![FormData]![ProjectID] with TempStore() in the query and 
use

"TempStore [ProjectID]" just before you call the query.







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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Fri Jul  8 08:20:17 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:20:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <s2ce4596.049@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

John W Clark


From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Fri Jul  8 08:24:37 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:24:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <s2ce467f.065@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s
are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

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From pharold at proftesting.com  Fri Jul  8 08:30:00 2005
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry L Harold)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:30:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <00F5FCB4F80FDB4EB03FBAAEAD97CEAD03D0D0@EXCHANGE.ptiorl.local>

Try 
LIKE "Tylenol*"
Like "T*"
In the criteria area.
Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:20 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

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From pharold at proftesting.com  Fri Jul  8 08:32:56 2005
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry L Harold)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:32:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <00F5FCB4F80FDB4EB03FBAAEAD97CEAD03D0D1@EXCHANGE.ptiorl.local>

Append the global "*" to whatever is the value entered (as a string)
with the "&" character and then submit to the query.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s
are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

John W Clark
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Jul  8 08:37:51 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:37:51 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
In-Reply-To: <s2ce467f.065@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAPLknKnk0elGo00u9Vn/re0BAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

If I remember rightly I think it's something like

	Like '" & [YourField] & "*'"

	Like SingleQuoteDoubleQuote & [YourField] &
DoubleQuote*SingleQuoteDoubleQuote

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: 08 July 2005 14:25
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often, and I
just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of the
drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different strengths. For
example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that drug,
or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are located. I
tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't work. How is this
done?

Thank you!

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From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Jul  8 08:38:11 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:38:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03629B3D@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

In the criteria of the query try this:

Like forms!frmFormName!ControlName & "*"

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jul  8 08:39:24 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:39:24 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1279CF2D@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

You could put a criteria like this in your query design

Like [Initial Letters] & "*"

Then when the query runs the user will get a dialog asking for the initial
letters and the "*" gets tacked on the end to give you the result you want.

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:20 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help


This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often, and I
just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of the
drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different strengths. For
example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that drug,
or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are located. I
tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't work. How is this
done?

Thank you!

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Fri Jul  8 08:47:36 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:47:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <s2ce4c34.098@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I really didn't want to use a form...this is just a simple table (i.e.
not a whole program) that our nursing department will use...they get an
update monthly (I think it is) and just want to quickly access any given
drug. But, I did think a form may be the answer, so I whipped up a quick
litte one. One the form I've got a text box (Text0) and a label
(Text2)...I'm just playing right now, so the names are defaults. On
the "On Change" property of Text0, I've got a statment that says
Text2.Caption = "Like '" & Text0.Text & "*'" 

This is working fine in the label, as it is showing up the way I want
it...although I just noticed that I only have single quotes...hmmmm. I
bet if I can get double quote in there it works.

Right now, if I put "t" into Text0, I see: Like 't*' in Text2,
and in the query I have [Forms]![enterfrm]![Text2] in the criteria
section. This little bugger is turning out to be...well...a little
bugger ;(

>>> pharold at proftesting.com 7/8/2005 9:32 AM >>>
Append the global "*" to whatever is the value entered (as a string)
with the "&" character and then submit to the query.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s
are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Fri Jul  8 08:50:11 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:50:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <s2ce4cae.006@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

OK! This worked...thank you! But, I thought I had already tried this...I
must have done a typo before.

>>> Lambert.Heenan at aig.com 7/8/2005 9:39 AM >>>
You could put a criteria like this in your query design

Like [Initial Letters] & "*"

Then when the query runs the user will get a dialog asking for the
initial
letters and the "*" gets tacked on the end to give you the result you
want.

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:20 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help


This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I
just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the
drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different strengths.
For
example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug,
or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are
located. I
tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't work. How is
this
done?

Thank you!

John W Clark
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jul  8 11:18:19 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:18:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
Message-ID: <s2cec38b.066@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

This is standard behaviour of a Windows Network (peer-to-peer).

/gustav

>>> accessd at shaw.ca 07/07 9:58 pm >>>
Thanks for that Jim.

That was the item that I could just not remember. The site starting
working
after it sat on over-night so the system must refresh it's after a
certain
amount of time passes. The nbstat -R command would do the same
instantly. I
will not forget it for another few years.

Thanks again
Jim 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

<<You can sometimes force it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.>>

  A better way to refresh is to drop to the DOS prompt and do:

  NBTSTAT -R

  You can also use NBTSTAT to see what's going on (use it with no
switch to
see all the options). NBTSTAT lets you look at each machines name
cache
table.

Jim.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


I agree. I think its because of the way w98 announces and caches P2P
computers and shares. If you remove the share from the troublesome PCs
and
then add a new share it will probably show up. You can sometimes force
it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.

HTH
John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer.
Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it
then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any
more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it
seems
unusual.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
- IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you
also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from
the
same workgroup in a P2P network.

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something
a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done
by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network
no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked
on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jul  8 14:45:08 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:45:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP address
In-Reply-To: <42CC6590.3090507@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200507081945.j68Jj9R15088@databaseadvisors.com>

I am not sure whether to send this to this group or to dba-Tech but here is
the issue... I was looking at the code supplied by Helen Fedemma for
interfacing Access to Outlook, and on my boxes (two are relevant) nothing
runs! I want to load her code and then talk to it via Access and I cannot
make anything work.

Has anyone made her code work successfully...

TIA,
Arthur




From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jul  8 14:47:11 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:47:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1279CC4F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <200507081947.j68JlDR15771@databaseadvisors.com>

IMO, sadly, renaming a computer breaks numerous things.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: July 7, 2005 10:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jul  8 14:52:14 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:52:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3A4@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <200507081952.j68JqIR16860@databaseadvisors.com>

I need to do what the subject says. The file might possibly be 1000 chars
but more likely fewer. What I would ideally like to do is this:

Dim myText as string
Dim strSourceFile as string
strSourceFile = xxxx
myText = ReadFile( strSourceFile )

And then, once I am done, post said text to a Word bookmark... but that part
is easy.

TIA,
Arthur



From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jul  8 15:39:54 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:39:54 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F12CDBA30@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Try this...

Function ReadFile(strFilePath As String) As String
Dim strFileName As String
Dim nLength As Long
Dim fh As Long
    strFileName = Dir(strFilePath)
    If strFileName & "" = "" Then
        ReadFile = ""
    Else
        nLength = FileLen(strFilePath)
        fh = FreeFile
        Open strFilePath For Input As #fh
        ReadFile = Input(nLength, #fh)
        Close #fh
    End If
End Function

Lambert

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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 3:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar


I need to do what the subject says. The file might possibly be 1000 chars
but more likely fewer. What I would ideally like to do is this:

Dim myText as string
Dim strSourceFile as string
strSourceFile = xxxx
myText = ReadFile( strSourceFile )

And then, once I am done, post said text to a Word bookmark... but that part
is easy.

TIA,
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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Fri Jul  8 15:41:38 2005
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:41:38 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A154F804E@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Arthur,
If the file you're reading is just a simple text file, then the following
should work:

Function ImportTextFileIntoVar()

    Dim strTextLine
    Dim strFileText As String
    Dim strFileName As String
    
    strFileName = "i:\test.txt"
    
    Open strFileName For Input As #1
    
    Do While Not EOF(1)
        Line Input #1, strTextLine
        strFileText = strFileText & vbCrLf & strTextLine
    Loop
        
    Close 1

End Function

Rusty

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From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar


I need to do what the subject says. The file might possibly be 1000 chars
but more likely fewer. What I would ideally like to do is this:

Dim myText as string
Dim strSourceFile as string
strSourceFile = xxxx
myText = ReadFile( strSourceFile )

And then, once I am done, post said text to a Word bookmark... but that part
is easy.

TIA,
Arthur

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jul  8 15:50:35 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:50:35 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F12CDBA39@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

This code will not work because you do not assign the value of strFileText
to the name of the function (which is how you make a function return
something). Also you did not declare the function return type, so it will
default to a Variant. Not that that would prevent the function for working.

Lambert

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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 4:42 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar


Arthur,
If the file you're reading is just a simple text file, then the following
should work:

Function ImportTextFileIntoVar()

    Dim strTextLine
    Dim strFileText As String
    Dim strFileName As String
    
    strFileName = "i:\test.txt"
    
    Open strFileName For Input As #1
    
    Do While Not EOF(1)
        Line Input #1, strTextLine
        strFileText = strFileText & vbCrLf & strTextLine
    Loop
        
    Close 1

End Function

Rusty

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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar


I need to do what the subject says. The file might possibly be 1000 chars
but more likely fewer. What I would ideally like to do is this:

Dim myText as string
Dim strSourceFile as string
strSourceFile = xxxx
myText = ReadFile( strSourceFile )

And then, once I am done, post said text to a Word bookmark... but that part
is easy.

TIA,
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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Fri Jul  8 15:59:25 2005
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:59:25 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A154F804F@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Can't disagree with you there.  I just got in an hurry and focused on the
code to get the file text into a variable.  Should have spent an extra
minute or two on it.  

thanks

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From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 3:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar


This code will not work because you do not assign the value of strFileText
to the name of the function (which is how you make a function return
something). Also you did not declare the function return type, so it will
default to a Variant. Not that that would prevent the function for working.

Lambert

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rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 4:42 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar


Arthur,
If the file you're reading is just a simple text file, then the following
should work:

Function ImportTextFileIntoVar()

    Dim strTextLine
    Dim strFileText As String
    Dim strFileName As String
    
    strFileName = "i:\test.txt"
    
    Open strFileName For Input As #1
    
    Do While Not EOF(1)
        Line Input #1, strTextLine
        strFileText = strFileText & vbCrLf & strTextLine
    Loop
        
    Close 1

End Function

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar


I need to do what the subject says. The file might possibly be 1000 chars
but more likely fewer. What I would ideally like to do is this:

Dim myText as string
Dim strSourceFile as string
strSourceFile = xxxx
myText = ReadFile( strSourceFile )

And then, once I am done, post said text to a Word bookmark... but that part
is easy.

TIA,
Arthur

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jul  8 18:46:07 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 09:46:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar
In-Reply-To: <200507081952.j68JqIR16860@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3A4@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <42CF9CDF.22181.459CF9E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 8 Jul 2005 at 15:52, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I need to do what the subject says. The file might possibly be 1000 chars
> but more likely fewer. What I would ideally like to do is this:
> 
> Dim myText as string
> Dim strSourceFile as string
> strSourceFile = xxxx
> myText = ReadFile( strSourceFile )
> 
> And then, once I am done, post said text to a Word bookmark... but that part
> is easy.
> 

Function Readfile(SourceFile As String) As String
Dim strBuffer As String

'Make the Buffer the full size of the file
strBuffer = Space$(FileLen(SourceFile))

'Allow for concurrent multi user access
Open SourceFile For Binary Access Read Shared As #1

Get #1, , strBuffer
Close #1
Readfile = strBuffer
End Function

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Jul  9 06:21:19 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 13:21:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP address
Message-ID: <s2cfcf56.077@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

Some hints may be found here:

  http://www.outlookcode.com/d/database.htm 

By the way, Helen's code is sometimes heavily non-internationalised
(read: extremely US specific) which may be what is causing you
problems.

/gustav


>>> artful at rogers.com 07/08 9:45 pm >>>
I am not sure whether to send this to this group or to dba-Tech but
here is
the issue... I was looking at the code supplied by Helen Fedemma for
interfacing Access to Outlook, and on my boxes (two are relevant)
nothing
runs! I want to load her code and then talk to it via Access and I
cannot
make anything work.

Has anyone made her code work successfully...

TIA,
Arthur


From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jul  9 14:35:28 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:35:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access to Word interface
In-Reply-To: <s2cfcf56.077@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200507091935.j69JZTR14051@databaseadvisors.com>

Thanks for the heads-up Gustav!

More specifically, the issue is this. I've got a Word doc (template) that I
populate with a bunch of data extracted from a query. I use bookmarks and
all that works nicely. The doc (dot) also contains two bookmarks which
represent where subtables should appear. (For simplicity think of the query
as bank-customer info and the two tables as deposits and withdrawals. That's
not the actual case but it suffices as an example.)

Because I couldn't make Helen's code run satisfactorily, I have been groping
for alternative solutions. But before painting myself into a corner, I'll
describe the problem itself... and maybe someone has a more elegant
approach.

Query1: delivers a bunch of columns from several related tables in one row.
I use this to populate the bookmarks in the dot/doc.

ST1: (subtable 1) here I need to present the rows returned from a query
(deposits, say, sticking to the aforementioned example).

ST2: (subtable 2) here I need to present the rows returned from a query
(withdrawals, say, again sticking to the aforementioned example).

My original concept was to create both tables in the dot file, having a
header row and nothing else, then dynamically add as many rows as I need.
Let's assume that Query 1 returns 5 rows, and the table has 4 columns. I
don't understand how to fill said table with exactly 5 new rows, planting
each column into its matching table-column.

Since I couldn't figure out how to do that (Helen's code looked promising
but I couldn't get even her examples using Northwind to work), I opted
instead for placing two bookmarks in the dot file and generating a pair of
HTML files, one for each table, then reading the contents of said two files
into memory and plonking their data into the two bookmarks representing
table 1 and table 2.

Perhaps this is a completely asinine way to go about it, but I've never had
to populate a table within a Word doc before, so I'm blindly groping around
for a way that works.

The code that populates the bookmarks is solid. Basically, I create a new
Word document object and then assign values to each bookmark from the
recordset that I open. All this works splendidly. 

But now I come to the two sub-tables. What I'm doing at the moment works but
doesn't result in exquisite layout... and besides, I'm sure there is a way
hipper method of accomplishing the task. During generation of the data, I
write the two sub-tables' queries to a pair of HTM files whose name is
known. Then I open the Word doc, populate the bookmarks and then deal with
the two embedded sub-tables. I use code supplied earlier on this thread to
inhale the two HTM files, then bang their contents into the bookmarks Table1
and Table2. 

It works, sort of. 

What I would much rather do, if possible, is comprehend how to dynamically
expand Table1 to accommodate the X rows that it receives on this call (and
the Y rows it might receive on the next call). And ditto with Table2.

I.e.

Dear <customer given name>,

Here is your bank statement for last month.

Deposits:
Date            Amount


Withdrawals:
Date            Amount

I could create an additional row for each table and leave it blank, then
start populating there and add additional rows as needed. Or each table
could consist only of the header row. Or I could add N rows to each table,
populate them as I go and delete the unrequired rows.

What I don't understand is how to take the N rows returned from Qst 1 and
bang each row's values into table T1, column by column, then next row. I
have the vague feeling that Range may play a role here, but I don't know
where to go with this notion.

So let's ignore Q1 (which just goes into the single bookmarks)... no problem
there. Now let's say Q2 returns 5 rows and Q3 returns 7 rows. How would I go
about populating T1 with the 5 rows returned by Q1?

Before writing this, I have invested some time reading the "help"... alas,
to no avail.

Any advice, guidance or free pain-killers gratefully accepted!

Arthur



From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jul  9 14:45:56 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:45:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <s2cfcf56.077@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200507091945.j69JjvR16424@databaseadvisors.com>

I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jul  9 15:40:43 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:40:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <200507091945.j69JjvR16424@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <000401c584c6$7a4db070$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>


Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
Dim ctl as control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jul  9 15:50:47 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:50:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <000401c584c6$7a4db070$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000601c584c7$e509f300$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Sorry, I missed the part about wanting only specific types of controls.

Function TestCtlType()
Dim ctl As Control
    ctl.ControlType
End Function

Place your click on the .ControlType and hit F1.  Help on ControlType will
come up showing a list fo constants for all control types.  You code will
now look something like:

Sub DumpRowSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub



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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form



Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
Dim ctl as control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jul  9 16:17:47 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:17:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <000601c584c7$e509f300$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000701c584cb$a7c43b50$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

BTW, this is exactly how my framework's form class instantiates a class for
each control found on the form.  Using a big case statement I instantiate a
class specific to the control type, then pass in the control to the class
instance, and save a pointer to each control class in a collection in the
form.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


Sorry, I missed the part about wanting only specific types of controls.

Function TestCtlType()
Dim ctl As Control
    ctl.ControlType
End Function

Place your click on the .ControlType and hit F1.  Help on ControlType will
come up showing a list fo constants for all control types.  You code will
now look something like:

Sub DumpRowSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub



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Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form



Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
Dim ctl as control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub


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www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Jul 10 03:52:03 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 10:52:03 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access to Word interface
Message-ID: <s2d0fdef.097@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

I don't work much with Word - in fact as little as possible - neither
with Word tables, but this works for me:

Sub AddRows(ByVal lngRowsAdd As Long)

  Dim tbl       As Table
  Dim lngCount  As Long
  Dim lngRow    As Long
  
  Set tbl = ActiveDocument.Tables(1)
  
  lngRow = tbl.Rows.Count
  For lngCount = 1 To lngRowsAdd
    tbl.Rows(lngRow).Range.Rows.Add
  Next
  
  Set tbl = Nothing
  
End Sub

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 07/09 9:35 pm >>>
Thanks for the heads-up Gustav!

More specifically, the issue is this. I've got a Word doc (template)
that I
populate with a bunch of data extracted from a query. I use bookmarks
and
all that works nicely. The doc (dot) also contains two bookmarks which
represent where subtables should appear. (For simplicity think of the
query
as bank-customer info and the two tables as deposits and withdrawals.
That's
not the actual case but it suffices as an example.)

Because I couldn't make Helen's code run satisfactorily, I have been
groping
for alternative solutions. But before painting myself into a corner,
I'll
describe the problem itself... and maybe someone has a more elegant
approach.

Query1: delivers a bunch of columns from several related tables in one
row.
I use this to populate the bookmarks in the dot/doc.

ST1: (subtable 1) here I need to present the rows returned from a
query
(deposits, say, sticking to the aforementioned example).

ST2: (subtable 2) here I need to present the rows returned from a
query
(withdrawals, say, again sticking to the aforementioned example).

My original concept was to create both tables in the dot file, having
a
header row and nothing else, then dynamically add as many rows as I
need.
Let's assume that Query 1 returns 5 rows, and the table has 4 columns.
I
don't understand how to fill said table with exactly 5 new rows,
planting
each column into its matching table-column.

Since I couldn't figure out how to do that (Helen's code looked
promising
but I couldn't get even her examples using Northwind to work), I opted
instead for placing two bookmarks in the dot file and generating a pair
of
HTML files, one for each table, then reading the contents of said two
files
into memory and plonking their data into the two bookmarks
representing
table 1 and table 2.

Perhaps this is a completely asinine way to go about it, but I've never
had
to populate a table within a Word doc before, so I'm blindly groping
around
for a way that works.

The code that populates the bookmarks is solid. Basically, I create a
new
Word document object and then assign values to each bookmark from the
recordset that I open. All this works splendidly. 

But now I come to the two sub-tables. What I'm doing at the moment
works but
doesn't result in exquisite layout... and besides, I'm sure there is a
way
hipper method of accomplishing the task. During generation of the data,
I
write the two sub-tables' queries to a pair of HTM files whose name is
known. Then I open the Word doc, populate the bookmarks and then deal
with
the two embedded sub-tables. I use code supplied earlier on this thread
to
inhale the two HTM files, then bang their contents into the bookmarks
Table1
and Table2. 

It works, sort of. 

What I would much rather do, if possible, is comprehend how to
dynamically
expand Table1 to accommodate the X rows that it receives on this call
(and
the Y rows it might receive on the next call). And ditto with Table2.

I.e.

Dear <customer given name>,

Here is your bank statement for last month.

Deposits:
Date            Amount


Withdrawals:
Date            Amount

I could create an additional row for each table and leave it blank,
then
start populating there and add additional rows as needed. Or each
table
could consist only of the header row. Or I could add N rows to each
table,
populate them as I go and delete the unrequired rows.

What I don't understand is how to take the N rows returned from Qst 1
and
bang each row's values into table T1, column by column, then next row.
I
have the vague feeling that Range may play a role here, but I don't
know
where to go with this notion.

So let's ignore Q1 (which just goes into the single bookmarks)... no
problem
there. Now let's say Q2 returns 5 rows and Q3 returns 7 rows. How would
I go
about populating T1 with the 5 rows returned by Q1?

Before writing this, I have invested some time reading the "help"...
alas,
to no avail.

Any advice, guidance or free pain-killers gratefully accepted!

Arthur



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jul 10 07:07:16 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 08:07:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access developer workbench
Message-ID: <002201c58547$ee7f2790$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I just found the following utility which I have NOT tried yet but I thought
looked interesting, particularly for you developers managing multiple
applications and Access versions.

Main Feature List  >>>  The software will 

* show you the computer and Access user name of all connections to a
database. More..
* allow you to compact/repair or backup a database as soon as everyone logs
off.
* open the correct version of Access for you. More..
* let you keep a list of favorites along with the Access version that you
want to open it, the relevant workgroup file and the minimum size to
schedule a compaction. More..
* let you send messages to users and shutdown the database. More..
* allow you to compile for increased performance and decompile a database to
remove compilation junk. More..
* allow you to setup reminders relevant to your database.


http://www.vb123.com/workbench/

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jul 10 09:07:46 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 10:07:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <000701c584cb$a7c43b50$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <200507101407.j6AE7pR22822@databaseadvisors.com>

I'm still doing something wrong, clearly. It doesn't seem to like the
declaration (perhaps because in the outer function I'm dimming frm as an
object not a form?)

'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
' Procedure : ListFormDataSources
' DateTime  : 31/05/2005 09:37
' Author    : Arthur Fuller
' Purpose   : list all the data sources from the forms in the current
database
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
'
Sub ListFormDataSources()

 Dim frm As AccessObject   ' changing this to object or form doesn't work
 Dim db As CurrentProject
    Dim i As Integer
    On Error GoTo ListFormDataSources_Error

    Set db = CurrentProject

    Application.Echo False

    'Check form recordsource
    For Each frm In db.AllForms
        DoCmd.OpenForm frm.Name, acDesign
        If Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource <> "" Then
            Debug.Print i, frm.Name & ": "
            Debug.Print Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource
        End If
        ListRowDataSources (frm)
        DoCmd.Close acForm, frm.Name
        i = i + 1
    Next frm

    Application.Echo True

    Set frm = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing

    On Error GoTo 0
    Exit Sub

ListFormDataSources_Error:

    MsgBox "Error " & Err.Number & " (" & Err.Description & ") in procedure
ListFormDataSources of Module aa_Listers"

 End Sub


'and then your code...

Sub ListRowDataSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls    
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub

Arthur

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Sent: July 9, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form

BTW, this is exactly how my framework's form class instantiates a class for
each control found on the form.  Using a big case statement I instantiate a
class specific to the control type, then pass in the control to the class
instance, and save a pointer to each control class in a collection in the
form.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


Sorry, I missed the part about wanting only specific types of controls.

Function TestCtlType()
Dim ctl As Control
    ctl.ControlType
End Function

Place your click on the .ControlType and hit F1.  Help on ControlType will
come up showing a list fo constants for all control types.  You code will
now look something like:

Sub DumpRowSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub



John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form



Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
Dim ctl as control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur

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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jul 10 12:11:03 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 13:11:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Opening a log and keeping it open (cross-posted to
	dba-sql)
In-Reply-To: <200507101407.j6AE7pR22822@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200507101711.j6AHB6R30338@databaseadvisors.com>

I've got a procedure called ExecuteCommand (which perhaps ought to have been
named ExecuteSQLCommand, but anyway). It encapsulates a bunch of stuff like
the current project connection and such, and contains debug code that prints
the SQL it is attempting to execute, and also an error handler that reports
"Problem executing " + the SQL code it received.

This is all very nice and works splendidly. However, the debug window has
decided limitations, so I've been thinking that I should write all this
information to a sort of transaction log. Basically, take what I now print
to the debug window and re-direct it to an ASCII file of a known name, etc. 

I have worked with reading and writing ASCII text files so I'm not a
complete na?f in this regard, but I do have a question. Suppose that I
revise the code such that the first time ExcuteCommand is called it opens
the file, creating it if necessary, and leaves it open. Every subsequent
visit to Execute Command finds the file open and simply appends its SQL
statement, just as it would to the debug window... but with the advantage
that I could have several hours' worth of statements recorded to the file,
rather than merely the last N lines of the debug buffer.

1. Would the app suffer in terms of performance if I did this?
2. Assuming that I opened the file in the usual way (as #1 or whatever), and
assuming that somewhere in the app I also open another text file, should I
protect myself by opening it as #98765 or somesuch, so that if you drop said
module into one of your apps, it would be guaranteed to work even if your
app opens a dozen other text files at various points?
3. Presumably the code would also need a "close the file" chunk, but in the
ideal world I wouldn't want you to have to code any special thing into your
"close app" procedure. So perhaps this might be better dealt with as a
class? But I seem to recall from Shamil's writing on classes that there is
an issue regarding the proper termination and garbage disposal of a class.

Any suggestions, anyone?
Arthur



From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Sun Jul 10 13:31:00 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:31:00 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access developer workbench
Message-ID: <1a227ac00c254eb6a37076ee063bc3c4@christopherhawkins.com>

Interesting.? The author appears to have taken the best Access utilities scattered around the web an re-written them into an integrated package.

That's almost cool enough to make me wish I still did a lot of Access work.? Almost.? ;)?

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 6:08 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Access developer workbench 

I just found the following utility which I have NOT tried yet but I thought
looked interesting, particularly for you developers managing multiple
applications and Access versions.

Main Feature List >>> The software will 

* show you the computer and Access user name of all connections to a
database. More..
* allow you to compact/repair or backup a database as soon as everyone logs
off.
* open the correct version of Access for you. More..
* let you keep a list of favorites along with the Access version that you
want to open it, the relevant workgroup file and the minimum size to
schedule a compaction. More..
* let you send messages to users and shutdown the database. More..
* allow you to compile for increased performance and decompile a database to
remove compilation junk. More..
* allow you to setup reminders relevant to your database.

http://www.vb123.com/workbench/

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jul 10 14:24:46 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:24:46 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: [dba-SQLServer] Opening a log and keeping it open
	(cross-posted to dba-sql)
In-Reply-To: <200507101711.j6AHB6R30337@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200507101407.j6AE7pR22822@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <42D2029E.4819.DB72EEA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Jul 2005 at 13:11, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Suppose that I
> revise the code such that the first time ExcuteCommand is called it opens
> the file, creating it if necessary, and leaves it open. Every subsequent
> visit to Execute Command finds the file open and simply appends its SQL
> statement, just as it would to the debug window... but with the advantage
> that I could have several hours' worth of statements recorded to the file,
> rather than merely the last N lines of the debug buffer.

The problem with leaving the file open is that the OS is likely to keep a 
lock on it if your app crashes. Keeping it open may also prevent you from 
accessing the log info while your app is running.   Depending on how 
frequently you will be logging,  try opening the file, appending the log 
entry and then closing it again.

Although slightly slower,  it is much safer.

> 
> 1. Would the app suffer in terms of performance if I did this?

Writing out to  a text file is pretty fast.  It all depends on how often 
you are expecting ExecuteCommand to Execute.  I wouldn't expect any 
noticable performance drop in normal circumstances.

> 2. Assuming that I opened the file in the usual way (as #1 or whatever), and
> assuming that somewhere in the app I also open another text file, should I
> protect myself by opening it as #98765 or somesuch, 

You have to use file numbers in the range 1?255, inclusive for files not 
accessible to other applications or file numbers in the range 256?511 for 
files accessible from other applications.

> so that if you drop said
> module into one of your apps, it would be guaranteed to work even if your
> app opens a dozen other text files at various points?

Use FreeFile or FreeFile(0) to get the next available handle in the range 1 
- 255 or FreeFile(1) to get the next available handle in the range 256 - 
a511. 

> 3. Presumably the code would also need a "close the file" chunk, but in the
> ideal world I wouldn't want you to have to code any special thing into your
> "close app" procedure. So perhaps this might be better dealt with as a
> class? But I seem to recall from Shamil's writing on classes that there is
> an issue regarding the proper termination and garbage disposal of a class.
> 
> Any suggestions, anyone?

Here's a simple shell for the above ideas without an error handling

Function Log(strLogInfo as String)

Dim intLogFileNunber as Integer
Dim strLogFile as String
strLogFile = "Logfile.txt"

intLogFileNumber = Freefile
Open strLogFile For Append As #intLogFileNumber
Print#1, strLogInfo
Close $intLogFileNumber

End Function


-- 
Stuart




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jul 10 14:31:05 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:31:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <200507101407.j6AE7pR22822@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <003801c58585$ea5cc4e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yes, you cannot pass an object in as a form

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 10:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I'm still doing something wrong, clearly. It doesn't seem to like the
declaration (perhaps because in the outer function I'm dimming frm as an
object not a form?)

'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
' Procedure : ListFormDataSources
' DateTime  : 31/05/2005 09:37
' Author    : Arthur Fuller
' Purpose   : list all the data sources from the forms in the current
database
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
'
Sub ListFormDataSources()

 Dim frm As AccessObject   ' changing this to object or form doesn't work
 Dim db As CurrentProject
    Dim i As Integer
    On Error GoTo ListFormDataSources_Error

    Set db = CurrentProject

    Application.Echo False

    'Check form recordsource
    For Each frm In db.AllForms
        DoCmd.OpenForm frm.Name, acDesign
        If Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource <> "" Then
            Debug.Print i, frm.Name & ": "
            Debug.Print Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource
        End If
        ListRowDataSources (frm)
        DoCmd.Close acForm, frm.Name
        i = i + 1
    Next frm

    Application.Echo True

    Set frm = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing

    On Error GoTo 0
    Exit Sub

ListFormDataSources_Error:

    MsgBox "Error " & Err.Number & " (" & Err.Description & ") in procedure
ListFormDataSources of Module aa_Listers"

 End Sub


'and then your code...

Sub ListRowDataSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls    
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub

Arthur

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: July 9, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form

BTW, this is exactly how my framework's form class instantiates a class for
each control found on the form.  Using a big case statement I instantiate a
class specific to the control type, then pass in the control to the class
instance, and save a pointer to each control class in a collection in the
form.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


Sorry, I missed the part about wanting only specific types of controls.

Function TestCtlType()
Dim ctl As Control
    ctl.ControlType
End Function

Place your click on the .ControlType and hit F1.  Help on ControlType will
come up showing a list fo constants for all control types.  You code will
now look something like:

Sub DumpRowSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub



John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form



Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
Dim ctl as control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur

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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Sun Jul 10 15:08:18 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 14:08:18 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who wins?
Message-ID: <a78ce5495c2148f7a0e1e9e826bbd3e5@christopherhawkins.com>

This message should be a fun one, as there is a technical issue and a business issue.? Feel free to comment on whichever one you want.? ;)

First, the technical:

This is related to my recent inquiry into whether or not there is a way to capture the write conflict error when it happens.? I noticed that the client with the home-brewed Access app had their DB-level Default Record Locking set to No Locks.? I'm talking about the option you find at Tools > Options > Advanced > Default Record Locking.? So, I went ahead and set that to Edited Record.

However, as I've mentioned before, the actual forms are all set to No Locks.? The first thing I tried was changing all these forms to Edited Record, but there is a bunch of creaky state-management code that causes errors to be thrown when this setting is in place.

I'm testing the system, but to be frank I've never been able to duplicate the write conflict, although my client's employees seem to do it all the time.? Sadly, they can't do it in my presence or tell me the exact steps to reproduce.? They do manage to send me the screenshots, though.? ;)? I really want to get these folks squared away, but they just can't communicate to me what they're doing, so I've got ot figure it out on my own.

Here is what I am curious about:? in a case where the DB-level settings specify Edited Record locks and the forms themselves specify No Locks, which setting wins?? I've been poring over support.microsoft.com but have found no answers to this question so far.

Now, the business question:

As you may or may not know,?my?business?specializes in remediation work - that is to say, most of my clients come to me with projects in-crisis because they tried to go the do-it-yourself route, or because they tried to pinch pennies by hiring some amateur, and they've ended up with poorly-working or even outright broken systems.? Most of the time, I manage to get the systems in workable shape.? Of course, there is only so much you can do with a badly-written codebase once it gets to a certain level of depth, but over the years I have developed a pretty good track record of bringing out the good in bad systems.

Here is an interesting twist - the client with the Access db in the technical example above wants me to offer a warranty on the whole application.? Bear in mind that I did not write this application - I am only fixing specific problems and adding a few features.? I always warrant my own work when it is ground-up, but how can one possibly give a warranty on a codebase that is 85% written by someone else?? In particular, we're taliking about a deep and poorly-written codebase;?since I'm positioned as an expert on rescuing at-risk projects, nobody comes to me when their projects are going well? ;).? 

Even with decent testing (that most clients are reluctant to pay for, ironically), I find it is?diffucult to predict?when real-world usage will cause some rarely-used subroutine to rise from the depths and do something that breaks my sparkly, new, well-designed code.? I notice that this expectation is becoming more and more frequent, and I am of the opinion that it is just not reasonable.? Of course, at the same time I want to be as useful as possible to my clients.? I am highly empathetic to the fact that people who lack a foundation in software cratsmanship/engineering?probably don't understand that hiring your 19-year old nephew who "knows computers" to build an?enterprise ERP system for $15/hour is 99% guaranteed to be a disaster.? 

Is anyone else struggling with the issue of being expected to offer a warranty on the entirety of?an existing codebase once you've made a few changes to it?? If so, how are you handling it?

-C-

 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jul 10 15:24:46 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 06:24:46 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who
	wins?
In-Reply-To: <a78ce5495c2148f7a0e1e9e826bbd3e5@christopherhawkins.com>
	charset=iso-8859-1
Message-ID: <42D210AE.22730.DEE174F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Jul 2005 at 14:08, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> First, the technical:
> 
> Tools > Options > Advanced > Default Record Locking.? So, I went ahead and set that to Edited
> 
......
> Here is what I am curious about:? in a case where the DB-level settings specify Edited Record
> locks and the forms themselves specify No Locks, which setting wins?? I've been poring over
> support.microsoft.com but have found no answers to this question so far.

Note the word "Default" under Tools-Options.... it's just that - a default 
so that you don't have to set it  on every object if you generally want the 
same setting.  The actual setting on an object will override this. What you 
specify on the Form is what you get.



-- 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jul 10 15:28:58 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 06:28:58 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who
	wins?
In-Reply-To: <a78ce5495c2148f7a0e1e9e826bbd3e5@christopherhawkins.com>
	charset=iso-8859-1
Message-ID: <42D211AA.12818.DF1F0C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Jul 2005 at 14:08, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> Is anyone else struggling with the issue of being expected to offer a warranty on the entirety
> of?an existing codebase once you've made a few changes to it?? If so, how are you handling it?

As JC said a couple of weaks ago when I said that I was remediating a 
similar system:  "And of course the last developer to touch the db is
responsible for ALL problems."

No way do you warrant anything unless you built it yourself. That way lies 
ruin.

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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Sun Jul 10 15:51:36 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 13:51:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <1a227ac00c254eb6a37076ee063bc3c4@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKMEJPDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hello to the list,

I want to change the Caption property of a report from a form via code.
Can anyone help me?

thanks,,

bob





From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Jul 10 16:26:51 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:26:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <24778749.1121028183485.JavaMail.root@sniper21>
Message-ID: <000001c58596$18aff320$0300a8c0@danwaters>

Bob,

Programmatically, you'll need to open the report in Design mode, then change
the caption, then close and save the report.  

I suspect this will only work if your database is an .mdb.

Dan Waters

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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 3:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code

Hello to the list,

I want to change the Caption property of a report from a form via code.
Can anyone help me?

thanks,,

bob



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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Sun Jul 10 22:01:26 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:01:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who
	wins?
Message-ID: <1a121a6f40a0412b85336fd0069ba425@christopherhawkins.com>

"The actual setting on an object will override this. What you specify on the Form is what you get."

I had a feeling.? ;)

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who wins? 

On 10 Jul 2005 at 14:08, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> First, the technical:
> 
> Tools > Options > Advanced > Default Record Locking.? So, I went ahead and set that to Edited
> 
......
> Here is what I am curious about:? in a case where the DB-level settings specify Edited Record
> locks and the forms themselves specify No Locks, which setting wins?? I've been poring over
> support.microsoft.com but have found no answers to this question so far.

Note the word "Default" under Tools-Options.... it's just that - a default 
so that you don't have to set it on every object if you generally want the 
same setting. The actual setting on an object will override this. What you 
specify on the Form is what you get.

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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Sun Jul 10 22:01:43 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:01:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who
	wins?
Message-ID: <743f743200314db39d203a3176af62f8@christopherhawkins.com>

That's what I'm thinking.

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who wins? 

On 10 Jul 2005 at 14:08, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> Is anyone else struggling with the issue of being expected to offer a warranty on the entirety
> of?an existing codebase once you've made a few changes to it?? If so, how are you handling it?

As JC said a couple of weaks ago when I said that I was remediating a 
similar system: "And of course the last developer to touch the db is
responsible for ALL problems."

No way do you warrant anything unless you built it yourself. That way lies 
ruin.

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From john at winhaven.net  Sun Jul 10 23:03:49 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:03:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKMEJPDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <200507110404.j6B43sj5081082@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Bob,
Some basic code below for doing this.

Private Sub cmdCaptionTest_Click()
    DoCmd.OpenReport "rptCaptionTest", acPreview
    Application.Reports.rptCaptionTest.Caption = "TestCaptionSimple"
    Exit Sub
End Sub

This is A97 so it should work in newer versions although I haven't tested
it.

HTH
John B.

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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 3:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code

Hello to the list,

I want to change the Caption property of a report from a form via code.
Can anyone help me?

thanks,,

bob



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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Jul 10 23:57:41 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:57:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access developer workbench
References: <1a227ac00c254eb6a37076ee063bc3c4@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <042f01c585d5$11bdd930$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Didn't see a price on that.  Do you know?

Rocky

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From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 11:31 AM
Subject: re: [AccessD] Access developer workbench


Interesting. The author appears to have taken the best Access utilities 
scattered around the web an re-written them into an integrated package.

That's almost cool enough to make me wish I still did a lot of Access work. 
Almost. ;)

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 6:08 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Access developer workbench

I just found the following utility which I have NOT tried yet but I thought
looked interesting, particularly for you developers managing multiple
applications and Access versions.

Main Feature List >>> The software will

* show you the computer and Access user name of all connections to a
database. More..
* allow you to compact/repair or backup a database as soon as everyone logs
off.
* open the correct version of Access for you. More..
* let you keep a list of favorites along with the Access version that you
want to open it, the relevant workgroup file and the minimum size to
schedule a compaction. More..
* let you send messages to users and shutdown the database. More..
* allow you to compile for increased performance and decompile a database to
remove compilation junk. More..
* allow you to setup reminders relevant to your database.

http://www.vb123.com/workbench/

John W. Colby
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Jul 11 01:49:45 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:49:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access developer workbench
In-Reply-To: <042f01c585d5$11bdd930$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42D2A329.158.102A4779@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Jul 2005 at 21:57, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:

> Didn't see a price on that.  Do you know?
> 

On their on-line order page - USD89.95  

But Darren, Bruce, Connie etc can probably get it in AUD since they are a Sydney based company :-)



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Jul 11 06:23:39 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:23:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - whowins?
In-Reply-To: <1a121a6f40a0412b85336fd0069ba425@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c5860b$00a765e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Default usually means that as you start to desing an object, that is what
that property will start as.  If you change it during design, then it ends
up different.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Hawkins
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 11:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock -
whowins?


"The actual setting on an object will override this. What you specify on the
Form is what you get."

I had a feeling.? ;)

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who
wins? 

On 10 Jul 2005 at 14:08, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> First, the technical:
> 
> Tools > Options > Advanced > Default Record Locking.? So, I went ahead 
> and set that to Edited
> 
......
> Here is what I am curious about:? in a case where the DB-level 
> settings specify Edited Record locks and the forms themselves specify 
> No Locks, which setting wins?? I've been poring over 
> support.microsoft.com but have found no answers to this question so 
> far.

Note the word "Default" under Tools-Options.... it's just that - a default 
so that you don't have to set it on every object if you generally want the 
same setting. The actual setting on an object will override this. What you 
specify on the Form is what you get.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 11 10:27:29 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:27:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <003801c58585$ea5cc4e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IJG001AMYXQYD@l-daemon>

...but this would work.

Dim frm as Form

Jim

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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 12:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form

Yes, you cannot pass an object in as a form

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 10:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I'm still doing something wrong, clearly. It doesn't seem to like the
declaration (perhaps because in the outer function I'm dimming frm as an
object not a form?)

'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
' Procedure : ListFormDataSources
' DateTime  : 31/05/2005 09:37
' Author    : Arthur Fuller
' Purpose   : list all the data sources from the forms in the current
database
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
'
Sub ListFormDataSources()

 Dim frm As AccessObject   ' changing this to object or form doesn't work
 Dim db As CurrentProject
    Dim i As Integer
    On Error GoTo ListFormDataSources_Error

    Set db = CurrentProject

    Application.Echo False

    'Check form recordsource
    For Each frm In db.AllForms
        DoCmd.OpenForm frm.Name, acDesign
        If Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource <> "" Then
            Debug.Print i, frm.Name & ": "
            Debug.Print Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource
        End If
        ListRowDataSources (frm)
        DoCmd.Close acForm, frm.Name
        i = i + 1
    Next frm

    Application.Echo True

    Set frm = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing

    On Error GoTo 0
    Exit Sub

ListFormDataSources_Error:

    MsgBox "Error " & Err.Number & " (" & Err.Description & ") in procedure
ListFormDataSources of Module aa_Listers"

 End Sub


'and then your code...

Sub ListRowDataSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls    
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub

Arthur

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Sent: July 9, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form

BTW, this is exactly how my framework's form class instantiates a class for
each control found on the form.  Using a big case statement I instantiate a
class specific to the control type, then pass in the control to the class
instance, and save a pointer to each control class in a collection in the
form.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


Sorry, I missed the part about wanting only specific types of controls.

Function TestCtlType()
Dim ctl As Control
    ctl.ControlType
End Function

Place your click on the .ControlType and hit F1.  Help on ControlType will
come up showing a list fo constants for all control types.  You code will
now look something like:

Sub DumpRowSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub



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Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form



Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
Dim ctl as control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Jul 11 10:38:11 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:38:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <0IJG001AMYXQYD@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000301c5862e$8b7d4ef0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

We need to see the code that calls this function and where it resides.  If
it is being called from the form itself, then there is no need to dim
anything, just call the function passing in "me".

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


...but this would work.

Dim frm as Form

Jim

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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 12:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form

Yes, you cannot pass an object in as a form

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 10:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I'm still doing something wrong, clearly. It doesn't seem to like the
declaration (perhaps because in the outer function I'm dimming frm as an
object not a form?)

'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
' Procedure : ListFormDataSources
' DateTime  : 31/05/2005 09:37
' Author    : Arthur Fuller
' Purpose   : list all the data sources from the forms in the current
database
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
'
Sub ListFormDataSources()

 Dim frm As AccessObject   ' changing this to object or form doesn't work
 Dim db As CurrentProject
    Dim i As Integer
    On Error GoTo ListFormDataSources_Error

    Set db = CurrentProject

    Application.Echo False

    'Check form recordsource
    For Each frm In db.AllForms
        DoCmd.OpenForm frm.Name, acDesign
        If Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource <> "" Then
            Debug.Print i, frm.Name & ": "
            Debug.Print Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource
        End If
        ListRowDataSources (frm)
        DoCmd.Close acForm, frm.Name
        i = i + 1
    Next frm

    Application.Echo True

    Set frm = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing

    On Error GoTo 0
    Exit Sub

ListFormDataSources_Error:

    MsgBox "Error " & Err.Number & " (" & Err.Description & ") in procedure
ListFormDataSources of Module aa_Listers"

 End Sub


'and then your code...

Sub ListRowDataSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls    
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub

Arthur

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Sent: July 9, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form

BTW, this is exactly how my framework's form class instantiates a class for
each control found on the form.  Using a big case statement I instantiate a
class specific to the control type, then pass in the control to the class
instance, and save a pointer to each control class in a collection in the
form.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


Sorry, I missed the part about wanting only specific types of controls.

Function TestCtlType()
Dim ctl As Control
    ctl.ControlType
End Function

Place your click on the .ControlType and hit F1.  Help on ControlType will
come up showing a list fo constants for all control types.  You code will
now look something like:

Sub DumpRowSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub



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www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form



Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
Dim ctl as control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 11 10:50:50 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:50:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who
	wins?
In-Reply-To: <a78ce5495c2148f7a0e1e9e826bbd3e5@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <0IJH00J0M00P9E@l-daemon>

Hi Christopher:

I have run into similar issues in the past. It was with a number of clients
so I started applying a month charge and described that charge as an
insurance policy. It did not guarantee that there would not be an error just
those errors would be fixed at a flat fee. Sometimes issues came up and I
ended up working for $10.00 an hour but when the yearly rate was tallied up
it was always more than profitable.

The clients liked it as there were no surprises. When they wanted a major
upgrade or new module that fell into the category of special projects and
they were billed separately. 

You can also set up a system where you slowly upgrade the whole project
drawing from a banked pool of money that the client and you have set up.
Working for a number of government agencies here, there is a policy that any
amounts tended or required for a specific project over ten thousand dollars
must go to bid, under that amount there no such constraints. The worked
capital pool would be replenished as long as the project portion was marked
as completed. This method worked for years.

Those are a few creative accounting ideas that you may find interesting.

Jim 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 1:08 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who wins?

This message should be a fun one, as there is a technical issue and a
business issue.? Feel free to comment on whichever one you want.? ;)

First, the technical:

This is related to my recent inquiry into whether or not there is a way to
capture the write conflict error when it happens.? I noticed that the client
with the home-brewed Access app had their DB-level Default Record Locking
set to No Locks.? I'm talking about the option you find at Tools > Options >
Advanced > Default Record Locking.? So, I went ahead and set that to Edited
Record.

However, as I've mentioned before, the actual forms are all set to No
Locks.? The first thing I tried was changing all these forms to Edited
Record, but there is a bunch of creaky state-management code that causes
errors to be thrown when this setting is in place.

I'm testing the system, but to be frank I've never been able to duplicate
the write conflict, although my client's employees seem to do it all the
time.? Sadly, they can't do it in my presence or tell me the exact steps to
reproduce.? They do manage to send me the screenshots, though.? ;)? I really
want to get these folks squared away, but they just can't communicate to me
what they're doing, so I've got ot figure it out on my own.

Here is what I am curious about:? in a case where the DB-level settings
specify Edited Record locks and the forms themselves specify No Locks, which
setting wins?? I've been poring over support.microsoft.com but have found no
answers to this question so far.

Now, the business question:

As you may or may not know,?my?business?specializes in remediation work -
that is to say, most of my clients come to me with projects in-crisis
because they tried to go the do-it-yourself route, or because they tried to
pinch pennies by hiring some amateur, and they've ended up with
poorly-working or even outright broken systems.? Most of the time, I manage
to get the systems in workable shape.? Of course, there is only so much you
can do with a badly-written codebase once it gets to a certain level of
depth, but over the years I have developed a pretty good track record of
bringing out the good in bad systems.

Here is an interesting twist - the client with the Access db in the
technical example above wants me to offer a warranty on the whole
application.? Bear in mind that I did not write this application - I am only
fixing specific problems and adding a few features.? I always warrant my own
work when it is ground-up, but how can one possibly give a warranty on a
codebase that is 85% written by someone else?? In particular, we're taliking
about a deep and poorly-written codebase;?since I'm positioned as an expert
on rescuing at-risk projects, nobody comes to me when their projects are
going well? ;).? 

Even with decent testing (that most clients are reluctant to pay for,
ironically), I find it is?diffucult to predict?when real-world usage will
cause some rarely-used subroutine to rise from the depths and do something
that breaks my sparkly, new, well-designed code.? I notice that this
expectation is becoming more and more frequent, and I am of the opinion that
it is just not reasonable.? Of course, at the same time I want to be as
useful as possible to my clients.? I am highly empathetic to the fact that
people who lack a foundation in software cratsmanship/engineering?probably
don't understand that hiring your 19-year old nephew who "knows computers"
to build an?enterprise ERP system for $15/hour is 99% guaranteed to be a
disaster.? 

Is anyone else struggling with the issue of being expected to offer a
warranty on the entirety of?an existing codebase once you've made a few
changes to it?? If so, how are you handling it?

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 11 11:43:53 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:43:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
References: <0IJG001AMYXQYD@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <42D2A1C9.1080909@shaw.ca>

This works just pass form name and set form in subroutine

Sub ListRowDataSources(fname As String)
Dim ctl As Control
Dim f As Form
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Set f = Forms(fname)
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
set f=nothing
set ctl=nothing
End Sub

Jim Lawrence wrote:

>...but this would work.
>
>Dim frm as Form
>
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
>Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 12:31 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
>
>Yes, you cannot pass an object in as a form
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
>Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 10:08 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
>
>
>I'm still doing something wrong, clearly. It doesn't seem to like the
>declaration (perhaps because in the outer function I'm dimming frm as an
>object not a form?)
>
>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>------------
>' Procedure : ListFormDataSources
>' DateTime  : 31/05/2005 09:37
>' Author    : Arthur Fuller
>' Purpose   : list all the data sources from the forms in the current
>database
>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>------------
>'
>Sub ListFormDataSources()
>
> Dim frm As AccessObject   ' changing this to object or form doesn't work
> Dim db As CurrentProject
>    Dim i As Integer
>    On Error GoTo ListFormDataSources_Error
>
>    Set db = CurrentProject
>
>    Application.Echo False
>
>    'Check form recordsource
>    For Each frm In db.AllForms
>        DoCmd.OpenForm frm.Name, acDesign
>        If Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource <> "" Then
>            Debug.Print i, frm.Name & ": "
>            Debug.Print Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource
>        End If
>        ListRowDataSources (frm)
>        DoCmd.Close acForm, frm.Name
>        i = i + 1
>    Next frm
>
>    Application.Echo True
>
>    Set frm = Nothing
>    Set db = Nothing
>
>    On Error GoTo 0
>    Exit Sub
>
>ListFormDataSources_Error:
>
>    MsgBox "Error " & Err.Number & " (" & Err.Description & ") in procedure
>ListFormDataSources of Module aa_Listers"
>
> End Sub
>
>
>'and then your code...
>
>Sub ListRowDataSources(f As Form)
>Dim ctl As Control
>   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
>   'I want to walk the controls
>   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
>   'over all others
>   Debug.Print f.Name
>   For Each ctl In f.Controls    
>      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
>      Select Case ctl.ControlType
>      Case acComboBox, acListBox
>         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
>      Case Else
>      End Select
>   Next
>End Sub
>
>Arthur
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
>Sent: July 9, 2005 5:18 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
>
>BTW, this is exactly how my framework's form class instantiates a class for
>each control found on the form.  Using a big case statement I instantiate a
>class specific to the control type, then pass in the control to the class
>instance, and save a pointer to each control class in a collection in the
>form.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
>Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:51 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
>
>
>Sorry, I missed the part about wanting only specific types of controls.
>
>Function TestCtlType()
>Dim ctl As Control
>    ctl.ControlType
>End Function
>
>Place your click on the .ControlType and hit F1.  Help on ControlType will
>come up showing a list fo constants for all control types.  You code will
>now look something like:
>
>Sub DumpRowSources(f As Form)
>Dim ctl As Control
>   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
>   'I want to walk the controls
>   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
>   'over all others
>   Debug.Print f.Name
>   For Each ctl In f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
>      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
>      Select Case ctl.ControlType
>      Case acComboBox, acListBox
>         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
>      Case Else
>      End Select
>   Next
>End Sub
>
>
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
>Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
>
>
>
>Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
>Dim ctl as control
>   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
>   'I want to walk the controls
>   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
>   'over all others
>   Debug.print f.name
>   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
>      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
>         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
>      End If
>   Next
>End Sub
>
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
>Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
>
>
>I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
>misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
>expect it to compile!
>
>Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
>   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
>   'I want to walk the controls
>   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
>   'over all others
>   Debug.print f.name
>   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
>      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
>         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
>         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
>      End If
>   Next
>End Sub
>
>TIA!
>Arthur
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From KP at sdsonline.net  Mon Jul 11 18:42:07 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:42:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration
References: <s2c580b5.030@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <00d801c58672$27389320$6601a8c0@user>

Absolutely incredible - when do they say it will it will be finished Gustav?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:42 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration


  Hi John

  Many ways to look at this.

  Notice the pictures of the interior. No window is rectangular.

  /gustav

  >>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 07/01 5:27 pm >>>
  Is it a windmill by any chance?  Cool looking structure.

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From artful at rogers.com  Mon Jul 11 19:32:55 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:32:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <42D2A1C9.1080909@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200507120032.j6C0WvR07017@databaseadvisors.com>

Works a treat. Thanks much!

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: July 11, 2005 12:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form

This works just pass form name and set form in subroutine

Sub ListRowDataSources(fname As String)
Dim ctl As Control
Dim f As Form
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Set f = Forms(fname)
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
set f=nothing
set ctl=nothing
End Sub




From kathryn at bassett.net  Mon Jul 11 22:39:34 2005
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:39:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Zip code format
Message-ID: <20050712033939.004D540722@omta18.mta.everyone.net>

In my table (members), I have a text field called Zip. The input mask is 00000\-9999;;_

Some people I have the 5 digit code, and others the zip+4, so this works. When I look at a query, a person's zip will show up as 91502- or 91006-2046 as I expect. However, when I make the mailing labels, I get 910062046 instead of 91006-2046. The 91502- does correctly show as 91502 without the dash.

In the table field definition, there is a space for "format" but if I put the same 00000\-9999;;_ I still get same result. There is no "predefined format" in the drop down box.

What do I do? This is a flat database with only 28 records, so I've got some play leeway.

--
Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net   



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul 11 22:56:05 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 23:56:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Zip code format
In-Reply-To: <20050712033939.004D540722@omta18.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <20050712035606.OWPC18668.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Kathryn, there's no built-in way to handle this -- you have a couple of
options. 

Store the - in the table with the data by changing the format code to
00000\-9999;0; -- that last 0 stores formatting with the data. 

Then, you can base the report on a query and use the following expression to
get rid of the -

FormattedZIP: Iif(Len(ZIPCODE) = 6, Left(ZIPCODE,5), ZIPCODE)

If you don't want to store the - in the data, then you'll need an expression
that handles putting it in instead of taking it out. I don't have that off
the top of my head -- but I could come up with it. 

This really shouldn't be so hard -- maybe someone has a simpler solution. 

My solution has to always just omit the last four digits -- I don't know any
po that actually requires them. :) Am I wrong on that? Maybe you need them
if you're using bulk mail or something. 

Susan H. 

In my table (members), I have a text field called Zip. The input mask is
00000\-9999;;_

Some people I have the 5 digit code, and others the zip+4, so this works.
When I look at a query, a person's zip will show up as 91502- or 91006-2046
as I expect. However, when I make the mailing labels, I get 910062046
instead of 91006-2046. The 91502- does correctly show as 91502 without the
dash.

In the table field definition, there is a space for "format" but if I put
the same _ I still get same result. There is no "predefined format" in the
drop down box.

What do I do? This is a flat database with only 28 records, so I've got some
play leeway.

--
Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net   

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From kathryn at bassett.net  Mon Jul 11 23:43:17 2005
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 21:43:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Zip code format
In-Reply-To: <20050712035606.OWPC18668.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050712044321.023924072B@omta18.mta.everyone.net>

It's only the report I'm having a problem. The box is

=Trim([City] & " " & [St] & " " & [Zip])

But the Zip is leaving out the hyphen. Hmm, just realized, the hyphen isn't really there, that's just the mask. I think I'll take the easy way out and just make two fields for the zip. And yeah, I use the +four as much as possible. Personal experimentation has proved that it does make a difference in the speed with which it is delivered. 

--
Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net    

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Susan Harkins
> Sent: 11 Jul 2005 8:56 pm
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Zip code format
> 
> Kathryn, there's no built-in way to handle this -- you have a 
> couple of options. 
> 
> Store the - in the table with the data by changing the format 
> code to 00000\-9999;0; -- that last 0 stores formatting with 
> the data. 
> 
> Then, you can base the report on a query and use the 
> following expression to get rid of the -
> 
> FormattedZIP: Iif(Len(ZIPCODE) = 6, Left(ZIPCODE,5), ZIPCODE)
> 
> If you don't want to store the - in the data, then you'll 
> need an expression that handles putting it in instead of 
> taking it out. I don't have that off the top of my head -- 
> but I could come up with it. 
> 
> This really shouldn't be so hard -- maybe someone has a 
> simpler solution. 
> 
> My solution has to always just omit the last four digits -- I 
> don't know any po that actually requires them. :) Am I wrong 
> on that? Maybe you need them if you're using bulk mail or something. 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> In my table (members), I have a text field called Zip. The 
> input mask is 00000\-9999;;_
> 
> Some people I have the 5 digit code, and others the zip+4, so 
> this works.
> When I look at a query, a person's zip will show up as 91502- 
> or 91006-2046 as I expect. However, when I make the mailing 
> labels, I get 910062046 instead of 91006-2046. The 91502- 
> does correctly show as 91502 without the dash.
> 
> In the table field definition, there is a space for "format" 
> but if I put the same _ I still get same result. There is no 
> "predefined format" in the drop down box.
> 
> What do I do? This is a flat database with only 28 records, 
> so I've got some play leeway.
> 
> --
> Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
> "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
> kathryn at bassett.net
> http://bassett.net   
> 
> --
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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Mon Jul 11 23:56:00 2005
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:56:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Zip code format
In-Reply-To: <20050712044321.023924072B@omta18.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <20050712045603.NLJR29002.mta9.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>

Kathryn

How about this?

=[City] & " " & [St] & " " & IIf([Zip]<99999,Left$([Zip],5),Left$([Zip],5) &
"-" & Right$([Zip],4))

Regards,
Bob Gajewski
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 00:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Zip code format

It's only the report I'm having a problem. The box is

=Trim([City] & " " & [St] & " " & [Zip])

But the Zip is leaving out the hyphen. Hmm, just realized, the hyphen isn't
really there, that's just the mask. I think I'll take the easy way out and
just make two fields for the zip. And yeah, I use the +four as much as
possible. Personal experimentation has proved that it does make a difference
in the speed with which it is delivered. 

--
Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net    

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan 
> Harkins
> Sent: 11 Jul 2005 8:56 pm
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Zip code format
> 
> Kathryn, there's no built-in way to handle this -- you have a couple 
> of options.
> 
> Store the - in the table with the data by changing the format code to 
> 00000\-9999;0; -- that last 0 stores formatting with the data.
> 
> Then, you can base the report on a query and use the following 
> expression to get rid of the -
> 
> FormattedZIP: Iif(Len(ZIPCODE) = 6, Left(ZIPCODE,5), ZIPCODE)
> 
> If you don't want to store the - in the data, then you'll need an 
> expression that handles putting it in instead of taking it out. I 
> don't have that off the top of my head -- but I could come up with it.
> 
> This really shouldn't be so hard -- maybe someone has a simpler 
> solution.
> 
> My solution has to always just omit the last four digits -- I don't 
> know any po that actually requires them. :) Am I wrong on that? Maybe 
> you need them if you're using bulk mail or something.
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> In my table (members), I have a text field called Zip. The input mask 
> is 00000\-9999;;_
> 
> Some people I have the 5 digit code, and others the zip+4, so this 
> works.
> When I look at a query, a person's zip will show up as 91502- or 
> 91006-2046 as I expect. However, when I make the mailing labels, I get 
> 910062046 instead of 91006-2046. The 91502- does correctly show as 
> 91502 without the dash.
> 
> In the table field definition, there is a space for "format" 
> but if I put the same _ I still get same result. There is no 
> "predefined format" in the drop down box.
> 
> What do I do? This is a flat database with only 28 records, so I've 
> got some play leeway.
> 
> --
> Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is 
> my soap"
> kathryn at bassett.net
> http://bassett.net   
> 
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From kathryn at bassett.net  Tue Jul 12 00:32:08 2005
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:32:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Zip code format
In-Reply-To: <20050712045603.NLJR29002.mta9.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>
Message-ID: <20050712053212.B7E23401E2@omta16.mta.everyone.net>

Yes! That did it. I don't use the left/right string enough to have thought about that.

Thanks a bunch! My mailing labels are now printed so I can get this stuff in the mail in the morning.

--
Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net   

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Bob Gajewski
> Sent: 11 Jul 2005 9:56 pm
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Zip code format
> 
> Kathryn
> 
> How about this?
> 
> =[City] & " " & [St] & " " & 
> IIf([Zip]<99999,Left$([Zip],5),Left$([Zip],5) & "-" & Right$([Zip],4))
> 
> Regards,
> Bob Gajewski



From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Tue Jul 12 01:03:08 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:33:08 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
References: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKMEJPDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <00df01c586a7$79b62dd0$ac1865cb@winxp>

Bob,

    Sample code as given below, in report's open event, should set its caption as per text box named TxtCaption (on form named F_Test).

    Private Sub Report_Open(Cancel As Integer)
        Me.Caption = Forms("F_Test")("TxtCaption")
    End Sub

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Heygood 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 02:21
  Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


  Hello to the list,

  I want to change the Caption property of a report from a form via code. Can anyone help me?

  thanks,,

  bob


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Jul 12 02:06:27 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:06:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration
Message-ID: <s2d38834.030@cactus.dk>

Hi Kath

It is expected to be November 2005 - at that time at least the first
apartments are ready.

If you click the menu a FAQ can be found. Among other things it
contains all sorts of dates related to the building.

http://www.turningtorso.com/

/gustav

>>> KP at sdsonline.net 07/12 1:42 am >>>
Absolutely incredible - when do they say it will it will be finished
Gustav?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:42 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration


  Hi John

  Many ways to look at this.

  Notice the pictures of the interior. No window is rectangular.

  /gustav

  >>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 07/01 5:27 pm >>>
  Is it a windmill by any chance?  Cool looking structure.



From mll at homekeyinc.com  Tue Jul 12 04:37:19 2005
From: mll at homekeyinc.com (Michael Laferriere)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 05:37:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Multilingual Access
Message-ID: <200507120928.j6C9SPR00380@databaseadvisors.com>

Hi Folks - We developed an Access 2002 database 
in English. The client wants to create a copy of the database and prep it 
for the Chinese language. Does anyone know what's involved? Or where to start? Thanks.

 

Michael 




From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Jul 12 05:16:40 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:16:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
Message-ID: <200507121007.j6CA7Tr18640@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Hi Groups

I have a task of processing a file in DIF format - Access does not seem
to have this as a filter type - is this correct?

I know Excel can read DIF files but I have hit the limit of 65,000
records.

Does anyone have experience of processing/importing DIF (large) files
into MS Access, Excel, SQL or other?

Many thanks

Richard



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jul 12 08:10:48 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:10:48 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
In-Reply-To: <200507121007.j6CA7Tr18640@smarthost.yourcomms.net>
Message-ID: <42D44DF8.6581.16AD8050@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:16, Griffiths, Richard wrote:

> Does anyone have experience of processing/importing DIF (large) files
> into MS Access, Excel, SQL or other?
> 

 Never tried it before, but the DIF format is quite simple and is available 
at http://www.wotsit.org.

Looking at the 2KB DIF specification file from there and saving a simple 
tabular spreadsheet as DIF to check exactly what it looks like, I knocked 
this routine up in a few minutes.

This one is very basic.
1.  You need to define a table with the appropriate fields first.  If you 
wanted, you could extend the function to actually create the table based on 
the Table (name) and Tuple (columns) headers.  You could also make an 
initial pass through the file to try and determine the field types.

2.  This function  just imports into numeric and text fields, but a bit of 
playing with it would allow for dates etc (you'd just need to check 
rs(lngColPointer).Type and parse the data appropriately.


Function ImportDIF(DIFFilename As String, Tablename As String) 
Dim strTemp1 As String
Dim strTemp2 As String
Dim lngColumns As Long
Dim lngFields As Long
Dim lngColPointer As Long
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim blnFirstRecord As Boolean

Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(Tablename)
lngFields = rs.Fields.Count

Open DIFFilename For Input As #1
'headers
Line Input #1, strTemp1
While strTemp1 <> "DATA"
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Select Case strTemp1
   Case "TABLE"
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, 1
     Line Input #1, strTemp1 'Table Name
   Case "VECTORS"  'rows topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, row count
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case "TUPLES" 'columns topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, column count
      lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
      If lngColumns <> lngFields Then
         MsgBox "Table has " & lngFields & " fields, but DIF field has " & 
lngColumns & " Columns!"
         Close #1
         Exit Function
      End If
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case Else ' optional headers
End Select
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Wend
Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0,0
Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank

'Data
blnFirstRecord = True
Do
    Line Input #1, strTemp1 'type, numerical value
    Line Input #1, strTemp2 'string value
    Select Case Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
        Case -1  ' special value
           If strTemp2 = "BOT" Then
              If Not blnFirstRecord Then
                rs.Update
                blnFirstRecord = False
              End If
              rs.AddNew
              lngColPointer = 0 ' new row
           End If
           If strTemp = "EOD" Then Exit Function
        Case 0 ' numeric value in strTemp1
            rs(lngColPointer) = Split(strTemp1, ",")(2)
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
        Case 1 ' string value in strTemp2
            'trim leading and trailing quotes from string
            strTemp2 = Mid$(strTemp2, 2, Len(strTemp2) - 2)
            rs(lngColPointer) = strTemp2
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
    End Select
Loop
Close #1
End Function
-- 
Stuart




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul 12 08:30:23 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:30:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Zip code format
In-Reply-To: <20050712044321.023924072B@omta18.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <20050712133023.TPRN23762.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Actually Kathryn, believe it or not -- that is probably the most efficient
and simplest solution of all. :) 

Susan H. 

It's only the report I'm having a problem. The box is

=Trim([City] & " " & [St] & " " & [Zip])

But the Zip is leaving out the hyphen. Hmm, just realized, the hyphen isn't
really there, that's just the mask. I think I'll take the easy way out and
just make two fields for the zip. And yeah, I use the +four as much as
possible. Personal experimentation has proved that it does make a difference
in the speed with which it is delivered. 




From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Jul 12 09:37:04 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:37:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
Message-ID: <200507121427.j6CERqr06334@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Stuart

Thanks I will look, can you help me on the line of code

lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)

Split - is this your user def function na dwhat about the (1) bit??

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: 12 July 2005 14:11
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:16, Griffiths, Richard wrote:

> Does anyone have experience of processing/importing DIF (large) files 
> into MS Access, Excel, SQL or other?
> 

 Never tried it before, but the DIF format is quite simple and is
available 
at http://www.wotsit.org.

Looking at the 2KB DIF specification file from there and saving a simple

tabular spreadsheet as DIF to check exactly what it looks like, I
knocked 
this routine up in a few minutes.

This one is very basic.
1.  You need to define a table with the appropriate fields first.  If
you 
wanted, you could extend the function to actually create the table based
on 
the Table (name) and Tuple (columns) headers.  You could also make an 
initial pass through the file to try and determine the field types.

2.  This function  just imports into numeric and text fields, but a bit
of 
playing with it would allow for dates etc (you'd just need to check 
rs(lngColPointer).Type and parse the data appropriately.


Function ImportDIF(DIFFilename As String, Tablename As String) 
Dim strTemp1 As String
Dim strTemp2 As String
Dim lngColumns As Long
Dim lngFields As Long
Dim lngColPointer As Long
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim blnFirstRecord As Boolean

Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(Tablename)
lngFields = rs.Fields.Count

Open DIFFilename For Input As #1
'headers
Line Input #1, strTemp1
While strTemp1 <> "DATA"
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Select Case strTemp1
   Case "TABLE"
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, 1
     Line Input #1, strTemp1 'Table Name
   Case "VECTORS"  'rows topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, row count
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case "TUPLES" 'columns topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, column count
      lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
      If lngColumns <> lngFields Then
         MsgBox "Table has " & lngFields & " fields, but DIF field has "
& 
lngColumns & " Columns!"
         Close #1
         Exit Function
      End If
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case Else ' optional headers
End Select
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Wend
Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0,0
Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank

'Data
blnFirstRecord = True
Do
    Line Input #1, strTemp1 'type, numerical value
    Line Input #1, strTemp2 'string value
    Select Case Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
        Case -1  ' special value
           If strTemp2 = "BOT" Then
              If Not blnFirstRecord Then
                rs.Update
                blnFirstRecord = False
              End If
              rs.AddNew
              lngColPointer = 0 ' new row
           End If
           If strTemp = "EOD" Then Exit Function
        Case 0 ' numeric value in strTemp1
            rs(lngColPointer) = Split(strTemp1, ",")(2)
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
        Case 1 ' string value in strTemp2
            'trim leading and trailing quotes from string
            strTemp2 = Mid$(strTemp2, 2, Len(strTemp2) - 2)
            rs(lngColPointer) = strTemp2
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
    End Select
Loop
Close #1
End Function
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jul 12 10:06:16 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:06:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F12CDBE78@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

"Split()" is an Access 2000+ function which takes a string as its first
parameter and a second string parameter which is a delimiter used to split
the first string into components. The split function breaks the whole string
up and returns all the parts in an array. So the "(1)" at the end is in fact
an array index, retrieving element 1 from the array returned by Split().
This is piece of shorthand code writing (possibly the author learned to code
in the terse world of C/C++ ???), but I would not use it personally, simply
because it is a little confusing to read. I'd explicitly assign the returned
array to a Variant and then retrieve element 1 from that.

Dim StrParts as Variant
...
	StrParts = Split(strTemp1, ",")
	lngColumns = StrParts(1)
...

My 2?.

Lambert


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


Stuart

Thanks I will look, can you help me on the line of code

lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)

Split - is this your user def function na dwhat about the (1) bit??

Richard

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 12 July 2005 14:11
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:16, Griffiths, Richard wrote:

> Does anyone have experience of processing/importing DIF (large) files
> into MS Access, Excel, SQL or other?
> 

 Never tried it before, but the DIF format is quite simple and is
available 
at http://www.wotsit.org.

Looking at the 2KB DIF specification file from there and saving a simple

tabular spreadsheet as DIF to check exactly what it looks like, I
knocked 
this routine up in a few minutes.

This one is very basic.
1.  You need to define a table with the appropriate fields first.  If
you 
wanted, you could extend the function to actually create the table based
on 
the Table (name) and Tuple (columns) headers.  You could also make an 
initial pass through the file to try and determine the field types.

2.  This function  just imports into numeric and text fields, but a bit
of 
playing with it would allow for dates etc (you'd just need to check 
rs(lngColPointer).Type and parse the data appropriately.


Function ImportDIF(DIFFilename As String, Tablename As String) 
Dim strTemp1 As String
Dim strTemp2 As String
Dim lngColumns As Long
Dim lngFields As Long
Dim lngColPointer As Long
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim blnFirstRecord As Boolean

Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(Tablename)
lngFields = rs.Fields.Count

Open DIFFilename For Input As #1
'headers
Line Input #1, strTemp1
While strTemp1 <> "DATA"
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Select Case strTemp1
   Case "TABLE"
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, 1
     Line Input #1, strTemp1 'Table Name
   Case "VECTORS"  'rows topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, row count
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case "TUPLES" 'columns topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, column count
      lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
      If lngColumns <> lngFields Then
         MsgBox "Table has " & lngFields & " fields, but DIF field has "
& 
lngColumns & " Columns!"
         Close #1
         Exit Function
      End If
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case Else ' optional headers
End Select
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Wend
Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0,0
Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank

'Data
blnFirstRecord = True
Do
    Line Input #1, strTemp1 'type, numerical value
    Line Input #1, strTemp2 'string value
    Select Case Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
        Case -1  ' special value
           If strTemp2 = "BOT" Then
              If Not blnFirstRecord Then
                rs.Update
                blnFirstRecord = False
              End If
              rs.AddNew
              lngColPointer = 0 ' new row
           End If
           If strTemp = "EOD" Then Exit Function
        Case 0 ' numeric value in strTemp1
            rs(lngColPointer) = Split(strTemp1, ",")(2)
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
        Case 1 ' string value in strTemp2
            'trim leading and trailing quotes from string
            strTemp2 = Mid$(strTemp2, 2, Len(strTemp2) - 2)
            rs(lngColPointer) = strTemp2
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
    End Select
Loop
Close #1
End Function
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Jul 12 10:17:02 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:17:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B0D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Actually, Split(), Join(),etc., are VBA 6 functions, which makes them available to Access 2000 and later.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


"Split()" is an Access 2000+ function which takes a string as its first parameter and a second string parameter which is a delimiter used to split the first string into components. The split function breaks the whole string up and returns all the parts in an array. So the "(1)" at the end is in fact an array index, retrieving element 1 from the array returned by Split(). This is piece of shorthand code writing (possibly the author learned to code in the terse world of C/C++ ???), but I would not use it personally, simply because it is a little confusing to read. I'd explicitly assign the returned array to a Variant and then retrieve element 1 from that.

Dim StrParts as Variant
...
	StrParts = Split(strTemp1, ",")
	lngColumns = StrParts(1)
...

My 2?.

Lambert


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


Stuart

Thanks I will look, can you help me on the line of code

lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)

Split - is this your user def function na dwhat about the (1) bit??

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 12 July 2005 14:11
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:16, Griffiths, Richard wrote:

> Does anyone have experience of processing/importing DIF (large) files 
> into MS Access, Excel, SQL or other?
> 

 Never tried it before, but the DIF format is quite simple and is available 
at http://www.wotsit.org.

Looking at the 2KB DIF specification file from there and saving a simple

tabular spreadsheet as DIF to check exactly what it looks like, I knocked 
this routine up in a few minutes.

This one is very basic.
1.  You need to define a table with the appropriate fields first.  If you 
wanted, you could extend the function to actually create the table based on 
the Table (name) and Tuple (columns) headers.  You could also make an 
initial pass through the file to try and determine the field types.

2.  This function  just imports into numeric and text fields, but a bit of 
playing with it would allow for dates etc (you'd just need to check 
rs(lngColPointer).Type and parse the data appropriately.


Function ImportDIF(DIFFilename As String, Tablename As String) 
Dim strTemp1 As String
Dim strTemp2 As String
Dim lngColumns As Long
Dim lngFields As Long
Dim lngColPointer As Long
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim blnFirstRecord As Boolean

Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(Tablename)
lngFields = rs.Fields.Count

Open DIFFilename For Input As #1
'headers
Line Input #1, strTemp1
While strTemp1 <> "DATA"
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Select Case strTemp1
   Case "TABLE"
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, 1
     Line Input #1, strTemp1 'Table Name
   Case "VECTORS"  'rows topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, row count
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case "TUPLES" 'columns topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, column count
      lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
      If lngColumns <> lngFields Then
         MsgBox "Table has " & lngFields & " fields, but DIF field has " & 
lngColumns & " Columns!"
         Close #1
         Exit Function
      End If
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case Else ' optional headers
End Select
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Wend
Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0,0
Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank

'Data
blnFirstRecord = True
Do
    Line Input #1, strTemp1 'type, numerical value
    Line Input #1, strTemp2 'string value
    Select Case Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
        Case -1  ' special value
           If strTemp2 = "BOT" Then
              If Not blnFirstRecord Then
                rs.Update
                blnFirstRecord = False
              End If
              rs.AddNew
              lngColPointer = 0 ' new row
           End If
           If strTemp = "EOD" Then Exit Function
        Case 0 ' numeric value in strTemp1
            rs(lngColPointer) = Split(strTemp1, ",")(2)
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
        Case 1 ' string value in strTemp2
            'trim leading and trailing quotes from string
            strTemp2 = Mid$(strTemp2, 2, Len(strTemp2) - 2)
            rs(lngColPointer) = strTemp2
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
    End Select
Loop
Close #1
End Function
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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Jul 12 10:28:19 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:28:19 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
Message-ID: <200507121519.j6CFJ7r10201@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Thanks, I was using A97 hence the confusion.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: 12 July 2005 16:17
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


Actually, Split(), Join(),etc., are VBA 6 functions, which makes them available to Access 2000 and later.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


"Split()" is an Access 2000+ function which takes a string as its first parameter and a second string parameter which is a delimiter used to split the first string into components. The split function breaks the whole string up and returns all the parts in an array. So the "(1)" at the end is in fact an array index, retrieving element 1 from the array returned by Split(). This is piece of shorthand code writing (possibly the author learned to code in the terse world of C/C++ ???), but I would not use it personally, simply because it is a little confusing to read. I'd explicitly assign the returned array to a Variant and then retrieve element 1 from that.

Dim StrParts as Variant
...
	StrParts = Split(strTemp1, ",")
	lngColumns = StrParts(1)
...

My 2?.

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


Stuart

Thanks I will look, can you help me on the line of code

lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)

Split - is this your user def function na dwhat about the (1) bit??

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 12 July 2005 14:11
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:16, Griffiths, Richard wrote:

> Does anyone have experience of processing/importing DIF (large) files
> into MS Access, Excel, SQL or other?
> 

 Never tried it before, but the DIF format is quite simple and is available 
at http://www.wotsit.org.

Looking at the 2KB DIF specification file from there and saving a simple

tabular spreadsheet as DIF to check exactly what it looks like, I knocked 
this routine up in a few minutes.

This one is very basic.
1.  You need to define a table with the appropriate fields first.  If you 
wanted, you could extend the function to actually create the table based on 
the Table (name) and Tuple (columns) headers.  You could also make an 
initial pass through the file to try and determine the field types.

2.  This function  just imports into numeric and text fields, but a bit of 
playing with it would allow for dates etc (you'd just need to check 
rs(lngColPointer).Type and parse the data appropriately.


Function ImportDIF(DIFFilename As String, Tablename As String) 
Dim strTemp1 As String
Dim strTemp2 As String
Dim lngColumns As Long
Dim lngFields As Long
Dim lngColPointer As Long
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim blnFirstRecord As Boolean

Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(Tablename)
lngFields = rs.Fields.Count

Open DIFFilename For Input As #1
'headers
Line Input #1, strTemp1
While strTemp1 <> "DATA"
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Select Case strTemp1
   Case "TABLE"
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, 1
     Line Input #1, strTemp1 'Table Name
   Case "VECTORS"  'rows topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, row count
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case "TUPLES" 'columns topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, column count
      lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
      If lngColumns <> lngFields Then
         MsgBox "Table has " & lngFields & " fields, but DIF field has " & 
lngColumns & " Columns!"
         Close #1
         Exit Function
      End If
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case Else ' optional headers
End Select
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Wend
Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0,0
Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank

'Data
blnFirstRecord = True
Do
    Line Input #1, strTemp1 'type, numerical value
    Line Input #1, strTemp2 'string value
    Select Case Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
        Case -1  ' special value
           If strTemp2 = "BOT" Then
              If Not blnFirstRecord Then
                rs.Update
                blnFirstRecord = False
              End If
              rs.AddNew
              lngColPointer = 0 ' new row
           End If
           If strTemp = "EOD" Then Exit Function
        Case 0 ' numeric value in strTemp1
            rs(lngColPointer) = Split(strTemp1, ",")(2)
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
        Case 1 ' string value in strTemp2
            'trim leading and trailing quotes from string
            strTemp2 = Mid$(strTemp2, 2, Len(strTemp2) - 2)
            rs(lngColPointer) = strTemp2
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
    End Select
Loop
Close #1
End Function
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jul 12 10:34:29 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:34:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F12CDBE9F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I think "is an Access 2000+ function" says just about the same thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


Actually, Split(), Join(),etc., are VBA 6 functions, which makes them
available to Access 2000 and later.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


"Split()" is an Access 2000+ function which takes a string as its first
parameter and a second string parameter which is a delimiter used to split
the first string into components. The split function breaks the whole string
up and returns all the parts in an array. So the "(1)" at the end is in fact
an array index, retrieving element 1 from the array returned by Split().
This is piece of shorthand code writing (possibly the author learned to code
in the terse world of C/C++ ???), but I would not use it personally, simply
because it is a little confusing to read. I'd explicitly assign the returned
array to a Variant and then retrieve element 1 from that.

Dim StrParts as Variant
...
	StrParts = Split(strTemp1, ",")
	lngColumns = StrParts(1)
...

My 2?.

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


Stuart

Thanks I will look, can you help me on the line of code

lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)

Split - is this your user def function na dwhat about the (1) bit??

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 12 July 2005 14:11
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:16, Griffiths, Richard wrote:

> Does anyone have experience of processing/importing DIF (large) files
> into MS Access, Excel, SQL or other?
> 

 Never tried it before, but the DIF format is quite simple and is available 
at http://www.wotsit.org.

Looking at the 2KB DIF specification file from there and saving a simple

tabular spreadsheet as DIF to check exactly what it looks like, I knocked 
this routine up in a few minutes.

This one is very basic.
1.  You need to define a table with the appropriate fields first.  If you 
wanted, you could extend the function to actually create the table based on 
the Table (name) and Tuple (columns) headers.  You could also make an 
initial pass through the file to try and determine the field types.

2.  This function  just imports into numeric and text fields, but a bit of 
playing with it would allow for dates etc (you'd just need to check 
rs(lngColPointer).Type and parse the data appropriately.


Function ImportDIF(DIFFilename As String, Tablename As String) 
Dim strTemp1 As String
Dim strTemp2 As String
Dim lngColumns As Long
Dim lngFields As Long
Dim lngColPointer As Long
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim blnFirstRecord As Boolean

Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(Tablename)
lngFields = rs.Fields.Count

Open DIFFilename For Input As #1
'headers
Line Input #1, strTemp1
While strTemp1 <> "DATA"
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Select Case strTemp1
   Case "TABLE"
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, 1
     Line Input #1, strTemp1 'Table Name
   Case "VECTORS"  'rows topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, row count
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case "TUPLES" 'columns topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, column count
      lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
      If lngColumns <> lngFields Then
         MsgBox "Table has " & lngFields & " fields, but DIF field has " & 
lngColumns & " Columns!"
         Close #1
         Exit Function
      End If
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case Else ' optional headers
End Select
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Wend
Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0,0
Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank

'Data
blnFirstRecord = True
Do
    Line Input #1, strTemp1 'type, numerical value
    Line Input #1, strTemp2 'string value
    Select Case Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
        Case -1  ' special value
           If strTemp2 = "BOT" Then
              If Not blnFirstRecord Then
                rs.Update
                blnFirstRecord = False
              End If
              rs.AddNew
              lngColPointer = 0 ' new row
           End If
           If strTemp = "EOD" Then Exit Function
        Case 0 ' numeric value in strTemp1
            rs(lngColPointer) = Split(strTemp1, ",")(2)
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
        Case 1 ' string value in strTemp2
            'trim leading and trailing quotes from string
            strTemp2 = Mid$(strTemp2, 2, Len(strTemp2) - 2)
            rs(lngColPointer) = strTemp2
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
    End Select
Loop
Close #1
End Function
-- 
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Tue Jul 12 12:59:47 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:59:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <00df01c586a7$79b62dd0$ac1865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEMGDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Thanks to all who responded. The on open event is what I used.
I thot of it earlier, but thot twice about using a global variable.
Not to start another rant/discussion, but I feel this is a good example a
good use of a global.

I am creating 79 PDFs from code, which involves opening a report. The neat
news is that the reports caption property is what Acrobat uses for the
resulting file name. Hence my need to change the caption each time I
programmically open the report.


thanks again.

bob

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of A.D.Tejpal
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


Bob,

    Sample code as given below, in report's open event, should set its
caption as per text box named TxtCaption (on form named F_Test).

    Private Sub Report_Open(Cancel As Integer)
        Me.Caption = Forms("F_Test")("TxtCaption")
    End Sub

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

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  Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 02:21
  Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


  Hello to the list,

  I want to change the Caption property of a report from a form via code.
Can anyone help me?

  thanks,,

  bob
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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 12 14:42:59 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:42:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Unbound Report Only Showing Last Record
Message-ID: <BAY104-F220876E2FEC4CB52D1411F9ADF0@phx.gbl>

On my Detail section of my report, I am referencing a module that using my 
current recordset.  The code steps through just fine, but the report is only 
showing my last record, not writing each record as it steps through the 
procedure.  I tried the OnFormat event, but that gave me duplicates of my 
last record, and the OnPrint event seems to work.

Do I need to bookmark the record and store it in a variable?  If so, how can 
I get Access to write each record to my report.  I would use a temporary 
table, but I never know how many fields the report is going to hold.  It may 
hold one field or up to 57 fields.  That is the reason for the 
"unboundness".

Any ideas?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 12 14:48:18 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:48:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Unbound Report Only Showing Last Record
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F220876E2FEC4CB52D1411F9ADF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F41A37095BEC52C5B6911A49ADF0@phx.gbl>

Set db = CurrentDb()
Here is the code, if this helps!


Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("qryLocalAuthority", dbOpenDynaset)
i = 0

rs.MoveFirst
If Forms![frmmembersearch]![Index] = 0 Then

    Do Until i = Forms![frmmembersearch]![ListCount]
        MsgBox i
        MsgBox rs!Field0
        Reports![rptMemberSearch]![Text0] = rs![Field0]
        rs.MoveNext
        i = i + 1
    Loop




Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jul 12 17:04:54 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:04:54 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
In-Reply-To: <200507121519.j6CFJ7r10201@smarthost.yourcomms.net>
Message-ID: <42D4CB26.14173.18966BF2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Jul 2005 at 16:28, Griffiths, Richard wrote:

> Thanks, I was using A97 hence the confusion.
> 

For A97 replace: 
Split(strTemp,",")(1) with
Left$(strTemp,Instr(StrTemp,",") -1)
and
Split(strTemp,",")(2) with
Mid$(strTemp,Instr(StrTemp,",")+1)

-- 
Stuart




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jul 12 17:08:08 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:08:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F12CDBE78@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <42D4CBE8.10318.1899623F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:06, Heenan, Lambert wrote:

> This is piece of shorthand code writing (possibly the author learned to code
> in the terse world of C/C++ ???), 

Never learnt C/C++ , I've never found a need to :-)

> but I would not use it personally, simply
> because it is a little confusing to read. 

Why is it confusing?  You know that Split() returns an array, so why not 
just index it.

-- 
Stuart




From darsant at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 17:52:48 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:52:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEMGDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
References: <00df01c586a7$79b62dd0$ac1865cb@winxp>
	<AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEMGDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a050712155277000d77@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/12/05, Bob Heygood <bheygood at abestsystems.com> wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded. The on open event is what I used.
> I thot of it earlier, but thot twice about using a global variable.
> Not to start another rant/discussion, but I feel this is a good example a
> good use of a global.
> 
> I am creating 79 PDFs from code, which involves opening a report. The neat
> news is that the reports caption property is what Acrobat uses for the
> resulting file name. Hence my need to change the caption each time I
> programmically open the report.
> 
> 
> thanks again.
> 
> bob

You may wish to consider using OpenArgs. When calling the report via
code, you can pass it arguments via the DoCmd.OpenReport, then with
the OnOpen code, change the caption of the current report. I do this
with an form that I use to determine date range (changes form caption
to be the name of the report it is called to open) and it works like a
charm.

DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"

Then in the on open handler:
Caption = OpenArgs

or something similar to fit your needs.
-- 
HTH
Josh McFarlane
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jul 12 18:06:03 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:06:03 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <53c8e05a050712155277000d77@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEMGDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <42D4D97B.12035.18CE6683@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Jul 2005 at 17:52, Josh McFarlane wrote:

> 
> DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"
> 
> Then in the on open handler:
> Caption = OpenArgs
> 
> or something similar to fit your needs.
> -- 

In a similar vein, has any looked into changing the Caption in a query 
datasheet or print preview.   I often shortcut in simple applications and 
display a query to the user rather than going to the effort of producing a 
report based on the query. It would be nice to customise the header on a 
printout of the query.

-- 
Stuart




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Jul 12 20:00:39 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:00:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <53c8e05a050712155277000d77@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003101c58746$4c43f630$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

>You may wish to consider using OpenArgs.

In my framework I use a pair of classes for this purpose.  Openargs (in my
system) are in the format ArgName1=ArgValue1;ArgName2=ArgValue2;... With as
many arguments as the developer needs to pass in to the form.

clsOpenArg (singular) is a simple class with a name/value pair of variables
and properties to read them back out.  clsOpenArgs (plural) is the
"supervisor"  It is passed the openarg string by the form class.  It parses
the openargs and creates an instance of clsOpenArg for each openarg passed
in, saving each instance in a colOpenArgs using the argument name as the
key.

The nice thing about using a class pair like this is that the form (or
report) then has a place to go to retrieve the arguments in a consistent
manner.  You (the developer) no longer need to parse arguments inside any
form that has arguments passed it, just instantiate the supervisor
(clsOpenArgs (plural)) and pass in the openargs string (in OnOpen of the
form / report) and then just read out the argument values using variable
names that you know exist because you set them.

For example:

OpenArgs - FormCaption=MyForm;lblCompanyName=Colby
Consulting;...MoreArgs=MoreValues;

In the form or report header, you dim an instance of the supervisor class

Dim lclsOpenArgs As clsOpenArgs

In OnOpen you set up the class and pass in the openargs, then just reference
the arguments:


Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    lclsOpenArgs = New clsOpenArgs
    With lclsOpenArgs
        .OpenArgs = Me.OpenArgs

...the .OpenArgs method accepts the openargs string and parses them, placing
them into OpenArg class instances, then placing those class instances in a
colOpenArgs keyed on the argument name.

        lblCompanyName.Caption = .Arg("lblCompanyName")
        Me.Caption = .Arg("FormCaption")
    End With
End Sub

As you can see, the form code then just reads the argument values out by
passing in the name of an OpenArg it expects to receive and does something
with that value.

You can have one or 40 openargs, and clsOpenArgs just parses them and gets
them ready to use.  The form can read the values out of the supervisor class
clsOpenArgs by name.  The form class can read the values out anywhere they
are needed, in any event or even in functions that do something complex.

Another trick I use is to have a method in clsOpenArgs that looks up the
argument names in the properties collection of the form.  If the name
matches a property, the property is set to the value of the argument.  This
allows me to open a generic form and setup things like AllowEdits,
AllowDeletes etc using arguments passed in to OpenArgs.  Not always useful,
but when I need to do something like this it is just automatic.

Classic class programming.

This code and more will be found in a book I am madly (but slowly) writing
to be available at a bookseller near you sometime next year.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


On 7/12/05, Bob Heygood <bheygood at abestsystems.com> wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded. The on open event is what I used. I thot 
> of it earlier, but thot twice about using a global variable. Not to 
> start another rant/discussion, but I feel this is a good example a 
> good use of a global.
> 
> I am creating 79 PDFs from code, which involves opening a report. The 
> neat news is that the reports caption property is what Acrobat uses 
> for the resulting file name. Hence my need to change the caption each 
> time I programmically open the report.
> 
> 
> thanks again.
> 
> bob

You may wish to consider using OpenArgs. When calling the report via code,
you can pass it arguments via the DoCmd.OpenReport, then with the OnOpen
code, change the caption of the current report. I do this with an form that
I use to determine date range (changes form caption to be the name of the
report it is called to open) and it works like a charm.

DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"

Then in the on open handler:
Caption = OpenArgs

or something similar to fit your needs.
-- 
HTH
Josh McFarlane
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jul 12 21:52:44 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:52:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <003101c58746$4c43f630$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <200507130252.j6D2qqBK122764@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

Ahhh, I can finally stop holding my breath! I threw my poor excuse of an
answer out there just to keep this thread alive, I had a feeling you had
this done in classes and I was just waiting for you to describe how you did
it. :o)

So your writing a book on it all! Can you feed some chapters out on it for
proof reading purposes or something?

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code

>You may wish to consider using OpenArgs.

In my framework I use a pair of classes for this purpose.  Openargs (in my
system) are in the format ArgName1=ArgValue1;ArgName2=ArgValue2;... With as
many arguments as the developer needs to pass in to the form.

clsOpenArg (singular) is a simple class with a name/value pair of variables
and properties to read them back out.  clsOpenArgs (plural) is the
"supervisor"  It is passed the openarg string by the form class.  It parses
the openargs and creates an instance of clsOpenArg for each openarg passed
in, saving each instance in a colOpenArgs using the argument name as the
key.

The nice thing about using a class pair like this is that the form (or
report) then has a place to go to retrieve the arguments in a consistent
manner.  You (the developer) no longer need to parse arguments inside any
form that has arguments passed it, just instantiate the supervisor
(clsOpenArgs (plural)) and pass in the openargs string (in OnOpen of the
form / report) and then just read out the argument values using variable
names that you know exist because you set them.

For example:

OpenArgs - FormCaption=MyForm;lblCompanyName=Colby
Consulting;...MoreArgs=MoreValues;

In the form or report header, you dim an instance of the supervisor class

Dim lclsOpenArgs As clsOpenArgs

In OnOpen you set up the class and pass in the openargs, then just reference
the arguments:


Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    lclsOpenArgs = New clsOpenArgs
    With lclsOpenArgs
        .OpenArgs = Me.OpenArgs

...the .OpenArgs method accepts the openargs string and parses them, placing
them into OpenArg class instances, then placing those class instances in a
colOpenArgs keyed on the argument name.

        lblCompanyName.Caption = .Arg("lblCompanyName")
        Me.Caption = .Arg("FormCaption")
    End With
End Sub

As you can see, the form code then just reads the argument values out by
passing in the name of an OpenArg it expects to receive and does something
with that value.

You can have one or 40 openargs, and clsOpenArgs just parses them and gets
them ready to use.  The form can read the values out of the supervisor class
clsOpenArgs by name.  The form class can read the values out anywhere they
are needed, in any event or even in functions that do something complex.

Another trick I use is to have a method in clsOpenArgs that looks up the
argument names in the properties collection of the form.  If the name
matches a property, the property is set to the value of the argument.  This
allows me to open a generic form and setup things like AllowEdits,
AllowDeletes etc using arguments passed in to OpenArgs.  Not always useful,
but when I need to do something like this it is just automatic.

Classic class programming.

This code and more will be found in a book I am madly (but slowly) writing
to be available at a bookseller near you sometime next year.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


On 7/12/05, Bob Heygood <bheygood at abestsystems.com> wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded. The on open event is what I used. I thot 
> of it earlier, but thot twice about using a global variable. Not to 
> start another rant/discussion, but I feel this is a good example a 
> good use of a global.
> 
> I am creating 79 PDFs from code, which involves opening a report. The 
> neat news is that the reports caption property is what Acrobat uses 
> for the resulting file name. Hence my need to change the caption each 
> time I programmically open the report.
> 
> 
> thanks again.
> 
> bob

You may wish to consider using OpenArgs. When calling the report via code,
you can pass it arguments via the DoCmd.OpenReport, then with the OnOpen
code, change the caption of the current report. I do this with an form that
I use to determine date range (changes form caption to be the name of the
report it is called to open) and it works like a charm.

DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"

Then in the on open handler:
Caption = OpenArgs

or something similar to fit your needs.
--
HTH
Josh McFarlane
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Jul 12 22:44:57 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:44:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <200507130252.j6D2qqBK122764@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <003201c5875d$42e13190$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Around the end of last year, I started rewriting my framework for the third
time, in fact I now call it C2DbFW3G meaning 3rd generation.  It is Access2K
or better - A97 not supported mostly because I use RaiseEvents which are
unsupported in A97.  This version is still not fully fleshed out simply
because I have ported (rewritten) the old 2nd generation framework piece by
piece as I needed the modules, and I haven't needed the form / control stuff
that I had in the 2G version.  

In fact I started on it because of a project that is generating reports for
a client.  The application is a report system for a call center for short
term disability insurance.  I (re)wrote the call center software from
scratch but the reporting stuff kinda sorta worked and I never rewrote it
from scratch.  The insurance company that hires my client to do the call
center is completely changing THEIR software, which now supports completely
automated data feeds.  

In the past, my system generated Word documents with "new claim notices" and
"advise to pay" notices.  These reports were generated automatically and
attached to emails to the insurer, where they were opened and keyed in to
the system.  Because it was always done that way!  Sigh.

It always sucked, errors on their end keying in the reports etc.

So... Since the new system takes an automated feed, fixed width fields, text
files, FTPd to a site where it is opened and loaded in to the system
automatically, I had the opportunity to rebuild this reporting thing from
scratch.

The kinds of framework things I needed for this application were distinctly
different from the framework things I needed for a typical form based data
entry / call center application.  At the same time, entire pieces are pretty
similar or even identical.  So I yanked the useful classes and code other
than form / control stuff from the 2G framework, took the opportunity to
clean it up a LOT, and "started from scratch", although not exactly as I
have intimated.  The result is a lot cleaner, even more heavily class based,
and uses a "service plug-in" concept.

A framework is really about providing services to an application.  These
services may be clearly a service, such as logging to text files, zipping /
unzipping files, encryption etc., or they may be less clearly a service,
such as a form class that loads control classes that provide record
selectors, JIT subforms, OpenArgs etc.  In the end though, even these are
just services to an application.  What I am trying very hard to do this time
is set up the framework to allow plug-in services where the service is
loaded if it is needed, with a "socket" kind of interface - at least for the
non-form based services.  

Things like SysVars, Zip/Unzip, logging etc are really easy to do this with.
The classes exist and if the application wants a logger it asks for one.  It
is stored in a collection keyed by name and the app can then use it by
calling a .log method of the framework, passing the name of the logger and
the text to log.  If a logger by that name isn't loaded, it loads and then
stores the text that needs to be stored in the log file.

Like that.

It turns out that a log file like that works well for these NCN and ATP
reports.  The application asks for an NCN log, gathers the data and builds
up the fixed width field strings.  When each string (NCN or ATP record) is
finished, the app just writes it to the log file.  When all the records are
written to the log file, the file is emailed or FTPd as desired.  The log
and the email or FTP is just a service.  The APPLICATION has to build ATP
and NCN reports, but it just asks the framework for a log and when the log
is done, asks the framework to email or FTP the log somewhere.

Services.  Neat stuff and lots of fun to do.  

As for the book, well... I have worked on a couple of books for Wrox, but
they gave a lukewarm reception to the idea of this stuff written into a
book.  I am just "doing it myself" and will then pitch it when it is closer
to written.  Sometimes the powers that be just don't "get" what you want to
do.  Or maybe it just won't sell and I'll be sitting on a years worth of
writing.  I have never seen a book like this for the Access arena so I just
want to do it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


Ahhh, I can finally stop holding my breath! I threw my poor excuse of an
answer out there just to keep this thread alive, I had a feeling you had
this done in classes and I was just waiting for you to describe how you did
it. :o)

So your writing a book on it all! Can you feed some chapters out on it for
proof reading purposes or something?

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code

>You may wish to consider using OpenArgs.

In my framework I use a pair of classes for this purpose.  Openargs (in my
system) are in the format ArgName1=ArgValue1;ArgName2=ArgValue2;... With as
many arguments as the developer needs to pass in to the form.

clsOpenArg (singular) is a simple class with a name/value pair of variables
and properties to read them back out.  clsOpenArgs (plural) is the
"supervisor"  It is passed the openarg string by the form class.  It parses
the openargs and creates an instance of clsOpenArg for each openarg passed
in, saving each instance in a colOpenArgs using the argument name as the
key.

The nice thing about using a class pair like this is that the form (or
report) then has a place to go to retrieve the arguments in a consistent
manner.  You (the developer) no longer need to parse arguments inside any
form that has arguments passed it, just instantiate the supervisor
(clsOpenArgs (plural)) and pass in the openargs string (in OnOpen of the
form / report) and then just read out the argument values using variable
names that you know exist because you set them.

For example:

OpenArgs - FormCaption=MyForm;lblCompanyName=Colby
Consulting;...MoreArgs=MoreValues;

In the form or report header, you dim an instance of the supervisor class

Dim lclsOpenArgs As clsOpenArgs

In OnOpen you set up the class and pass in the openargs, then just reference
the arguments:


Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    lclsOpenArgs = New clsOpenArgs
    With lclsOpenArgs
        .OpenArgs = Me.OpenArgs

...the .OpenArgs method accepts the openargs string and parses them, placing
them into OpenArg class instances, then placing those class instances in a
colOpenArgs keyed on the argument name.

        lblCompanyName.Caption = .Arg("lblCompanyName")
        Me.Caption = .Arg("FormCaption")
    End With
End Sub

As you can see, the form code then just reads the argument values out by
passing in the name of an OpenArg it expects to receive and does something
with that value.

You can have one or 40 openargs, and clsOpenArgs just parses them and gets
them ready to use.  The form can read the values out of the supervisor class
clsOpenArgs by name.  The form class can read the values out anywhere they
are needed, in any event or even in functions that do something complex.

Another trick I use is to have a method in clsOpenArgs that looks up the
argument names in the properties collection of the form.  If the name
matches a property, the property is set to the value of the argument.  This
allows me to open a generic form and setup things like AllowEdits,
AllowDeletes etc using arguments passed in to OpenArgs.  Not always useful,
but when I need to do something like this it is just automatic.

Classic class programming.

This code and more will be found in a book I am madly (but slowly) writing
to be available at a bookseller near you sometime next year.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


On 7/12/05, Bob Heygood <bheygood at abestsystems.com> wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded. The on open event is what I used. I thot
> of it earlier, but thot twice about using a global variable. Not to 
> start another rant/discussion, but I feel this is a good example a 
> good use of a global.
> 
> I am creating 79 PDFs from code, which involves opening a report. The
> neat news is that the reports caption property is what Acrobat uses 
> for the resulting file name. Hence my need to change the caption each 
> time I programmically open the report.
> 
> 
> thanks again.
> 
> bob

You may wish to consider using OpenArgs. When calling the report via code,
you can pass it arguments via the DoCmd.OpenReport, then with the OnOpen
code, change the caption of the current report. I do this with an form that
I use to determine date range (changes form caption to be the name of the
report it is called to open) and it works like a charm.

DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"

Then in the on open handler:
Caption = OpenArgs

or something similar to fit your needs.
--
HTH
Josh McFarlane
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jul 12 23:45:26 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:45:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <003201c5875d$42e13190$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <200507130445.j6D4jX38247366@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

Sounds interesting!

The book would target a very specific audience and I suppose that bodes low
returns for a publisher. The downside of capitalism :o(

You could probably bring Susan on as editor and have the benefit of her
connections. I don't know if you lurk the OT list or not but she has been
doing children's books in addition to her technical articles. She seems to
be the most prolific author for Access Advisor magazine lately. Works in
conjunction with a lot of past and present DBA people. I think this last
issue she did an article with Mike Gunderloy and the one before with Gustav
Brock.

I could proof read it for you too.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

Around the end of last year, I started rewriting my framework for the third
time, in fact I now call it C2DbFW3G meaning 3rd generation.  It is Access2K
or better - A97 not supported mostly because I use RaiseEvents which are
unsupported in A97.  This version is still not fully fleshed out simply
because I have ported (rewritten) the old 2nd generation framework piece by
piece as I needed the modules, and I haven't needed the form / control stuff
that I had in the 2G version.  

In fact I started on it because of a project that is generating reports for
a client.  The application is a report system for a call center for short
term disability insurance.  I (re)wrote the call center software from
scratch but the reporting stuff kinda sorta worked and I never rewrote it
from scratch.  The insurance company that hires my client to do the call
center is completely changing THEIR software, which now supports completely
automated data feeds.  

In the past, my system generated Word documents with "new claim notices" and
"advise to pay" notices.  These reports were generated automatically and
attached to emails to the insurer, where they were opened and keyed in to
the system.  Because it was always done that way!  Sigh.

It always sucked, errors on their end keying in the reports etc.

So... Since the new system takes an automated feed, fixed width fields, text
files, FTPd to a site where it is opened and loaded in to the system
automatically, I had the opportunity to rebuild this reporting thing from
scratch.

The kinds of framework things I needed for this application were distinctly
different from the framework things I needed for a typical form based data
entry / call center application.  At the same time, entire pieces are pretty
similar or even identical.  So I yanked the useful classes and code other
than form / control stuff from the 2G framework, took the opportunity to
clean it up a LOT, and "started from scratch", although not exactly as I
have intimated.  The result is a lot cleaner, even more heavily class based,
and uses a "service plug-in" concept.

A framework is really about providing services to an application.  These
services may be clearly a service, such as logging to text files, zipping /
unzipping files, encryption etc., or they may be less clearly a service,
such as a form class that loads control classes that provide record
selectors, JIT subforms, OpenArgs etc.  In the end though, even these are
just services to an application.  What I am trying very hard to do this time
is set up the framework to allow plug-in services where the service is
loaded if it is needed, with a "socket" kind of interface - at least for the
non-form based services.  

Things like SysVars, Zip/Unzip, logging etc are really easy to do this with.
The classes exist and if the application wants a logger it asks for one.  It
is stored in a collection keyed by name and the app can then use it by
calling a .log method of the framework, passing the name of the logger and
the text to log.  If a logger by that name isn't loaded, it loads and then
stores the text that needs to be stored in the log file.

Like that.

It turns out that a log file like that works well for these NCN and ATP
reports.  The application asks for an NCN log, gathers the data and builds
up the fixed width field strings.  When each string (NCN or ATP record) is
finished, the app just writes it to the log file.  When all the records are
written to the log file, the file is emailed or FTPd as desired.  The log
and the email or FTP is just a service.  The APPLICATION has to build ATP
and NCN reports, but it just asks the framework for a log and when the log
is done, asks the framework to email or FTP the log somewhere.

Services.  Neat stuff and lots of fun to do.  

As for the book, well... I have worked on a couple of books for Wrox, but
they gave a lukewarm reception to the idea of this stuff written into a
book.  I am just "doing it myself" and will then pitch it when it is closer
to written.  Sometimes the powers that be just don't "get" what you want to
do.  Or maybe it just won't sell and I'll be sitting on a years worth of
writing.  I have never seen a book like this for the Access arena so I just
want to do it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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http://folding.stanford.edu/

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


Ahhh, I can finally stop holding my breath! I threw my poor excuse of an
answer out there just to keep this thread alive, I had a feeling you had
this done in classes and I was just waiting for you to describe how you did
it. :o)

So your writing a book on it all! Can you feed some chapters out on it for
proof reading purposes or something?

John B.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code

>You may wish to consider using OpenArgs.

In my framework I use a pair of classes for this purpose.  Openargs (in my
system) are in the format ArgName1=ArgValue1;ArgName2=ArgValue2;... With as
many arguments as the developer needs to pass in to the form.

clsOpenArg (singular) is a simple class with a name/value pair of variables
and properties to read them back out.  clsOpenArgs (plural) is the
"supervisor"  It is passed the openarg string by the form class.  It parses
the openargs and creates an instance of clsOpenArg for each openarg passed
in, saving each instance in a colOpenArgs using the argument name as the
key.

The nice thing about using a class pair like this is that the form (or
report) then has a place to go to retrieve the arguments in a consistent
manner.  You (the developer) no longer need to parse arguments inside any
form that has arguments passed it, just instantiate the supervisor
(clsOpenArgs (plural)) and pass in the openargs string (in OnOpen of the
form / report) and then just read out the argument values using variable
names that you know exist because you set them.

For example:

OpenArgs - FormCaption=MyForm;lblCompanyName=Colby
Consulting;...MoreArgs=MoreValues;

In the form or report header, you dim an instance of the supervisor class

Dim lclsOpenArgs As clsOpenArgs

In OnOpen you set up the class and pass in the openargs, then just reference
the arguments:


Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    lclsOpenArgs = New clsOpenArgs
    With lclsOpenArgs
        .OpenArgs = Me.OpenArgs

...the .OpenArgs method accepts the openargs string and parses them, placing
them into OpenArg class instances, then placing those class instances in a
colOpenArgs keyed on the argument name.

        lblCompanyName.Caption = .Arg("lblCompanyName")
        Me.Caption = .Arg("FormCaption")
    End With
End Sub

As you can see, the form code then just reads the argument values out by
passing in the name of an OpenArg it expects to receive and does something
with that value.

You can have one or 40 openargs, and clsOpenArgs just parses them and gets
them ready to use.  The form can read the values out of the supervisor class
clsOpenArgs by name.  The form class can read the values out anywhere they
are needed, in any event or even in functions that do something complex.

Another trick I use is to have a method in clsOpenArgs that looks up the
argument names in the properties collection of the form.  If the name
matches a property, the property is set to the value of the argument.  This
allows me to open a generic form and setup things like AllowEdits,
AllowDeletes etc using arguments passed in to OpenArgs.  Not always useful,
but when I need to do something like this it is just automatic.

Classic class programming.

This code and more will be found in a book I am madly (but slowly) writing
to be available at a bookseller near you sometime next year.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


On 7/12/05, Bob Heygood <bheygood at abestsystems.com> wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded. The on open event is what I used. I thot 
> of it earlier, but thot twice about using a global variable. Not to 
> start another rant/discussion, but I feel this is a good example a 
> good use of a global.
> 
> I am creating 79 PDFs from code, which involves opening a report. The 
> neat news is that the reports caption property is what Acrobat uses 
> for the resulting file name. Hence my need to change the caption each 
> time I programmically open the report.
> 
> 
> thanks again.
> 
> bob

You may wish to consider using OpenArgs. When calling the report via code,
you can pass it arguments via the DoCmd.OpenReport, then with the OnOpen
code, change the caption of the current report. I do this with an form that
I use to determine date range (changes form caption to be the name of the
report it is called to open) and it works like a charm.

DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"

Then in the on open handler:
Caption = OpenArgs

or something similar to fit your needs.
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 13 01:29:24 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:29:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <003201c5875d$42e13190$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IJJ00F1DZCXNY@l-daemon>

Hi John:

Save a copy for me. It sounds like a good read...but I guess it only works
with bound forms.(?)

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

Around the end of last year, I started rewriting my framework for the third
time, in fact I now call it C2DbFW3G meaning 3rd generation.  It is Access2K
or better - A97 not supported mostly because I use RaiseEvents which are
unsupported in A97.  This version is still not fully fleshed out simply
because I have ported (rewritten) the old 2nd generation framework piece by
piece as I needed the modules, and I haven't needed the form / control stuff
that I had in the 2G version.  

In fact I started on it because of a project that is generating reports for
a client.  The application is a report system for a call center for short
term disability insurance.  I (re)wrote the call center software from
scratch but the reporting stuff kinda sorta worked and I never rewrote it
from scratch.  The insurance company that hires my client to do the call
center is completely changing THEIR software, which now supports completely
automated data feeds.  

In the past, my system generated Word documents with "new claim notices" and
"advise to pay" notices.  These reports were generated automatically and
attached to emails to the insurer, where they were opened and keyed in to
the system.  Because it was always done that way!  Sigh.

It always sucked, errors on their end keying in the reports etc.

So... Since the new system takes an automated feed, fixed width fields, text
files, FTPd to a site where it is opened and loaded in to the system
automatically, I had the opportunity to rebuild this reporting thing from
scratch.

The kinds of framework things I needed for this application were distinctly
different from the framework things I needed for a typical form based data
entry / call center application.  At the same time, entire pieces are pretty
similar or even identical.  So I yanked the useful classes and code other
than form / control stuff from the 2G framework, took the opportunity to
clean it up a LOT, and "started from scratch", although not exactly as I
have intimated.  The result is a lot cleaner, even more heavily class based,
and uses a "service plug-in" concept.

A framework is really about providing services to an application.  These
services may be clearly a service, such as logging to text files, zipping /
unzipping files, encryption etc., or they may be less clearly a service,
such as a form class that loads control classes that provide record
selectors, JIT subforms, OpenArgs etc.  In the end though, even these are
just services to an application.  What I am trying very hard to do this time
is set up the framework to allow plug-in services where the service is
loaded if it is needed, with a "socket" kind of interface - at least for the
non-form based services.  

Things like SysVars, Zip/Unzip, logging etc are really easy to do this with.
The classes exist and if the application wants a logger it asks for one.  It
is stored in a collection keyed by name and the app can then use it by
calling a .log method of the framework, passing the name of the logger and
the text to log.  If a logger by that name isn't loaded, it loads and then
stores the text that needs to be stored in the log file.

Like that.

It turns out that a log file like that works well for these NCN and ATP
reports.  The application asks for an NCN log, gathers the data and builds
up the fixed width field strings.  When each string (NCN or ATP record) is
finished, the app just writes it to the log file.  When all the records are
written to the log file, the file is emailed or FTPd as desired.  The log
and the email or FTP is just a service.  The APPLICATION has to build ATP
and NCN reports, but it just asks the framework for a log and when the log
is done, asks the framework to email or FTP the log somewhere.

Services.  Neat stuff and lots of fun to do.  

As for the book, well... I have worked on a couple of books for Wrox, but
they gave a lukewarm reception to the idea of this stuff written into a
book.  I am just "doing it myself" and will then pitch it when it is closer
to written.  Sometimes the powers that be just don't "get" what you want to
do.  Or maybe it just won't sell and I'll be sitting on a years worth of
writing.  I have never seen a book like this for the Access arena so I just
want to do it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


Ahhh, I can finally stop holding my breath! I threw my poor excuse of an
answer out there just to keep this thread alive, I had a feeling you had
this done in classes and I was just waiting for you to describe how you did
it. :o)

So your writing a book on it all! Can you feed some chapters out on it for
proof reading purposes or something?

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code

>You may wish to consider using OpenArgs.

In my framework I use a pair of classes for this purpose.  Openargs (in my
system) are in the format ArgName1=ArgValue1;ArgName2=ArgValue2;... With as
many arguments as the developer needs to pass in to the form.

clsOpenArg (singular) is a simple class with a name/value pair of variables
and properties to read them back out.  clsOpenArgs (plural) is the
"supervisor"  It is passed the openarg string by the form class.  It parses
the openargs and creates an instance of clsOpenArg for each openarg passed
in, saving each instance in a colOpenArgs using the argument name as the
key.

The nice thing about using a class pair like this is that the form (or
report) then has a place to go to retrieve the arguments in a consistent
manner.  You (the developer) no longer need to parse arguments inside any
form that has arguments passed it, just instantiate the supervisor
(clsOpenArgs (plural)) and pass in the openargs string (in OnOpen of the
form / report) and then just read out the argument values using variable
names that you know exist because you set them.

For example:

OpenArgs - FormCaption=MyForm;lblCompanyName=Colby
Consulting;...MoreArgs=MoreValues;

In the form or report header, you dim an instance of the supervisor class

Dim lclsOpenArgs As clsOpenArgs

In OnOpen you set up the class and pass in the openargs, then just reference
the arguments:


Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    lclsOpenArgs = New clsOpenArgs
    With lclsOpenArgs
        .OpenArgs = Me.OpenArgs

...the .OpenArgs method accepts the openargs string and parses them, placing
them into OpenArg class instances, then placing those class instances in a
colOpenArgs keyed on the argument name.

        lblCompanyName.Caption = .Arg("lblCompanyName")
        Me.Caption = .Arg("FormCaption")
    End With
End Sub

As you can see, the form code then just reads the argument values out by
passing in the name of an OpenArg it expects to receive and does something
with that value.

You can have one or 40 openargs, and clsOpenArgs just parses them and gets
them ready to use.  The form can read the values out of the supervisor class
clsOpenArgs by name.  The form class can read the values out anywhere they
are needed, in any event or even in functions that do something complex.

Another trick I use is to have a method in clsOpenArgs that looks up the
argument names in the properties collection of the form.  If the name
matches a property, the property is set to the value of the argument.  This
allows me to open a generic form and setup things like AllowEdits,
AllowDeletes etc using arguments passed in to OpenArgs.  Not always useful,
but when I need to do something like this it is just automatic.

Classic class programming.

This code and more will be found in a book I am madly (but slowly) writing
to be available at a bookseller near you sometime next year.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


On 7/12/05, Bob Heygood <bheygood at abestsystems.com> wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded. The on open event is what I used. I thot
> of it earlier, but thot twice about using a global variable. Not to 
> start another rant/discussion, but I feel this is a good example a 
> good use of a global.
> 
> I am creating 79 PDFs from code, which involves opening a report. The
> neat news is that the reports caption property is what Acrobat uses 
> for the resulting file name. Hence my need to change the caption each 
> time I programmically open the report.
> 
> 
> thanks again.
> 
> bob

You may wish to consider using OpenArgs. When calling the report via code,
you can pass it arguments via the DoCmd.OpenReport, then with the OnOpen
code, change the caption of the current report. I do this with an form that
I use to determine date range (changes form caption to be the name of the
report it is called to open) and it works like a charm.

DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"

Then in the on open handler:
Caption = OpenArgs

or something similar to fit your needs.
--
HTH
Josh McFarlane
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 13 01:56:04 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:56:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Multilingual Access
References: <200507120928.j6C9SPR00380@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <42D4BB04.8070809@shaw.ca>

Rocky just went through that maybe he can supply the gory details.

Some sites that might help

http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo/language/default.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo/language/localized.mspx

You might also want to read your way through this MS Globalization site

http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev
and Dr. International's Faq's
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/drintl/

Maybe this Russian(Moscow Access User Group) developed Access Translator
might help with Captions and Controls. Translator collects text information
from Access Forms, Reports and Command bars and its controls - labels,
textboxes, etc. Then developer translates collected text to other
languages, and at last Translator writes translated text back to Access
controls. Demo version available. Michael Kaplan gives it a thumbs up.
Although not sure if it handles Bidi langauges like arabic and hebrew.
Or chinese which might require an IME

http://c85.cemi.rssi.ru/access/Downloads/Trans/Trans.asp

Michael Laferriere wrote:

>Hi Folks - We developed an Access 2002 database 
>in English. The client wants to create a copy of the database and prep it 
>for the Chinese language. Does anyone know what's involved? Or where to start? Thanks.
>
> 
>
>Michael 
>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jul 13 06:35:15 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:35:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <0IJJ00F1DZCXNY@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <002101c5879e$f3d65660$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Jim,

My framework (the part that had to do with forms and controls) was indeed
aimed at bound forms.  However the concept works for unbound forms as well.
Indeed it would be even more critical to use a framework as you the
developer are doing so much of the work that Access was doing for you -
loading all of the data into the controls, checking for updates to the data
by other people before you wrote changes back to the table, writing the data
back from controls into fields in the tables, stuff like that.  All of that
code would be framework material.  Once written and stored in the framework,
the doing of it would be automatic by the framework.

If you are one of the unholy (unbounders) why don't you give a thumbnail
sketch of how you manage all of that work.  I will then brainstorm how I
would look at doing it in a framework.  Remember that the concept of a
framework is to make it as automatic as possible.  For example (in a bound
form) I have a form class and I have a class for each control type.  The
form class runs a control scanner, gets the control type of each control,
loads a class instance for each control found.  Once this is done, the form
class and control classes can work together to do tasks.  

As an example, I can literally just drop a pair of controls on the form, a
text box named RecID that exposes (is bound to) the PK (always an
autonumber) and an unbound combo called RecSel.  The names are specific and
if the control scanner finds this pair of controls it knows that a record
selector exists and runs the code.  The afterupdate of the combo by that
name calls a method of the parent form saying "move to recid XXXX".  The
column 0 of the combo is the PK of the record in the form so it knows the
PK.  The form's OnCurrent knows that it needs to keep the combo synced to
the displayed record in the form so it calls a method of the combo class
telling it to display the data relevant to the current record in the form.
Thus the form, the combo and a text box all work as a system to form a
record selector.  If the developer drops these two controls on the form he
"just has" a record selector.  Nothing else is required - other than binding
RecSel to the PK field and setting the combo's query to display the data and
get the PK of the records in the table.

As an unbounder, you need to think about how to achieve this kind of
"automaticness" in the things you do.  Naturally some tasks do require
feeding data into init() methods of classes to set the classes up to do
their job.  After that though the "systems" need to just work together.
Load the data into the unbound form / controls.  Store flags in each
control's class saying that control's data was modified.  Scan for all
controls with modified data and update the underlying data in the record.
Check for data changes in the data you are about to update and inform the
user that another user edited the record since you loaded the data.  Etc.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

Save a copy for me. It sounds like a good read...but I guess it only works
with bound forms.(?)

Jim 





From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 13 06:55:07 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:55:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <002101c5879e$f3d65660$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFCENODPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

John,

<<Indeed it would be even more critical to use a framework as you the
developer are doing so much of the work that Access was doing for you -
loading all of the data into the controls, checking for updates to the data
by other people before you wrote changes back to the table, writing the data
back from controls into fields in the tables, stuff like that.  All of that
code would be framework material.  Once written and stored in the framework,
the doing of it would be automatic by the framework.>>

  There was a discussion long ago on this very point; why there were not
more frameworks available for Access.  The consensus at the time was that
Access did a lot of what a traditional framework did for you.

  For example, I work with VMP which is a framework for VFP and one of the
base services it offers is PK generation.  Foxpro for the longest time
didn't have an Autonumber, while Access has had this from day one.

  The other problem was that Access did not provide many hooks, so it was
difficult to achieve certain things.  A lot has changed since then and yet
there is still a fundamental lack of frameworks for Access.

  It's strange to because in working with many applications, I see that
other developers have come up with things to solve the very same problems
(PK generation, pick lists, calendars, etc).

  I'm still scratching my head as to why.

Jim.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:35 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Jim,

My framework (the part that had to do with forms and controls) was indeed
aimed at bound forms.  However the concept works for unbound forms as well.
Indeed it would be even more critical to use a framework as you the
developer are doing so much of the work that Access was doing for you -
loading all of the data into the controls, checking for updates to the data
by other people before you wrote changes back to the table, writing the data
back from controls into fields in the tables, stuff like that.  All of that
code would be framework material.  Once written and stored in the framework,
the doing of it would be automatic by the framework.

If you are one of the unholy (unbounders) why don't you give a thumbnail
sketch of how you manage all of that work.  I will then brainstorm how I
would look at doing it in a framework.  Remember that the concept of a
framework is to make it as automatic as possible.  For example (in a bound
form) I have a form class and I have a class for each control type.  The
form class runs a control scanner, gets the control type of each control,
loads a class instance for each control found.  Once this is done, the form
class and control classes can work together to do tasks.

As an example, I can literally just drop a pair of controls on the form, a
text box named RecID that exposes (is bound to) the PK (always an
autonumber) and an unbound combo called RecSel.  The names are specific and
if the control scanner finds this pair of controls it knows that a record
selector exists and runs the code.  The afterupdate of the combo by that
name calls a method of the parent form saying "move to recid XXXX".  The
column 0 of the combo is the PK of the record in the form so it knows the
PK.  The form's OnCurrent knows that it needs to keep the combo synced to
the displayed record in the form so it calls a method of the combo class
telling it to display the data relevant to the current record in the form.
Thus the form, the combo and a text box all work as a system to form a
record selector.  If the developer drops these two controls on the form he
"just has" a record selector.  Nothing else is required - other than binding
RecSel to the PK field and setting the combo's query to display the data and
get the PK of the records in the table.

As an unbounder, you need to think about how to achieve this kind of
"automaticness" in the things you do.  Naturally some tasks do require
feeding data into init() methods of classes to set the classes up to do
their job.  After that though the "systems" need to just work together.
Load the data into the unbound form / controls.  Store flags in each
control's class saying that control's data was modified.  Scan for all
controls with modified data and update the underlying data in the record.
Check for data changes in the data you are about to update and inform the
user that another user edited the record since you loaded the data.  Etc.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

Save a copy for me. It sounds like a good read...but I guess it only works
with bound forms.(?)

Jim



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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jul 13 08:08:42 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:08:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F12CDC123@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Did I say it made no sense? Did I say I could not understand it? Did I say
it turned my brain to mush looking at the *unconventional* syntax? No. I
answered another liseter's question. Someone who *did not* understand it.
That is why I diplomatically described it as "a little confusing". 

Lambert

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Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:06, Heenan, Lambert wrote:

> This is piece of shorthand code writing (possibly the author learned 
> to code in the terse world of C/C++ ???),

Never learnt C/C++ , I've never found a need to :-)

> but I would not use it personally, simply
> because it is a little confusing to read.

Why is it confusing?  You know that Split() returns an array, so why not 
just index it.

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Jul 13 08:31:48 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:31:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322E41143@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 



From mikedorism at verizon.net  Wed Jul 13 09:54:45 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:54:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322E41143@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <000001c587ba$d0370260$2f01a8c0@dorismanning>

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Jul 13 10:06:42 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:06:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322E41187@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation
table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Wed Jul 13 10:12:05 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:12:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322E41187@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <000101c587bd$3b71a740$2f01a8c0@dorismanning>

It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation
table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Jul 13 10:32:30 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:32:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322E411C6@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

So for the ignorant here how do I know if I have non updateable query
and what can I do about it?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation
table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Wed Jul 13 10:39:53 2005
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:39:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE01E96A18@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

I've recently had this very error 3086.  I found no suggestions to my
solution however came to realize that there was no records being
returned thus causing the error, or so I believed this to be my cause.
Because I call this query from code, I captured this error and exit the
sub without any issues.

To find out if you are returning any records, open the query in design
mode then simply click on the "Datasheet View", this will show you what
your results will be, but will not execute the delete command.

Anyone else have any similar experiences with a delete query.  My delete
query contained a sub-query and was not doing any joins.

Rich 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Jul 13 10:46:13 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:46:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322E411D0@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Datasheet view shows several hundred records to delete so something else
is happening to prevent the records from being deleted. Thanks for the
idea.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:40 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

I've recently had this very error 3086.  I found no suggestions to my
solution however came to realize that there was no records being
returned thus causing the error, or so I believed this to be my cause.
Because I call this query from code, I captured this error and exit the
sub without any issues.

To find out if you are returning any records, open the query in design
mode then simply click on the "Datasheet View", this will show you what
your results will be, but will not execute the delete command.

Anyone else have any similar experiences with a delete query.  My delete
query contained a sub-query and was not doing any joins.

Rich 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 13 10:54:11 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:54:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B0F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Try adding the DISTINCTROW keyword to your query (or set the unique
records property to true in the query properties) and see if that makes
a difference.  It often does.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


Datasheet view shows several hundred records to delete so something else
is happening to prevent the records from being deleted. Thanks for the
idea.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:40 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

I've recently had this very error 3086.  I found no suggestions to my
solution however came to realize that there was no records being
returned thus causing the error, or so I believed this to be my cause.
Because I call this query from code, I captured this error and exit the
sub without any issues.

To find out if you are returning any records, open the query in design
mode then simply click on the "Datasheet View", this will show you what
your results will be, but will not execute the delete command.

Anyone else have any similar experiences with a delete query.  My delete
query contained a sub-query and was not doing any joins.

Rich 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Wed Jul 13 10:56:15 2005
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Don [ITS])
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:56:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9AD90535@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

A delete query against an empty recordset simply exits without error.
"DELETE * FROM tblMyTable WHERE tblMyTable.MyField = 2;" simply runs and
exits if there are no MyFields in tblMyTable with values equal to 2.  No
error.  I'd say that Doris's suspicion that the recordset is
non-updateable is the more likely cause of Chester's problem.

You may want to re-visit your code to ensure that you're not missing
some other circumstance that is causing your delete queries to fail.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:40 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


I've recently had this very error 3086.  I found no suggestions to my
solution however came to realize that there was no records being
returned thus causing the error, or so I believed this to be my cause.
Because I call this query from code, I captured this error and exit the
sub without any issues.

To find out if you are returning any records, open the query in design
mode then simply click on the "Datasheet View", this will show you what
your results will be, but will not execute the delete command.

Anyone else have any similar experiences with a delete query.  My delete
query contained a sub-query and was not doing any joins.

Rich 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Jul 13 10:58:57 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:58:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322E411D9@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

That made it work. Now my day is mush better. I did not want to delete
3000+ records by hand. Thanks all

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try adding the DISTINCTROW keyword to your query (or set the unique
records property to true in the query properties) and see if that makes
a difference.  It often does.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


Datasheet view shows several hundred records to delete so something else
is happening to prevent the records from being deleted. Thanks for the
idea.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:40 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

I've recently had this very error 3086.  I found no suggestions to my
solution however came to realize that there was no records being
returned thus causing the error, or so I believed this to be my cause.
Because I call this query from code, I captured this error and exit the
sub without any issues.

To find out if you are returning any records, open the query in design
mode then simply click on the "Datasheet View", this will show you what
your results will be, but will not execute the delete command.

Anyone else have any similar experiences with a delete query.  My delete
query contained a sub-query and was not doing any joins.

Rich 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 13 11:16:39 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:16:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <002101c5879e$f3d65660$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IJK005EDQJPG2@l-daemon>

Hi John:

The methods I have used were designed about eight years ago and have
copied/improved again and again. Here are the basics and a step by step
methodology:
1. I always use ADO-OLE. (One exception is MySQL... a bit of a pain. If
someone could figure out a method that would not require a station by
station visit to install the MySQL ODBC drivers I would be for ever
indebted.)
2. The forms and subforms are populated as the user moves through the
records and but until the user actually changes field content on a form or
attempts to delete the current record, the recordset used to feed the form
is static.
3. a) A record or group of records in the case of a subform being displayed,
are first pulled into a recordset, and content are then used to populate the
form collection. In theory the record exists in three places.  
b) If there is a change of deletion request the recordset is locked by
creating a dynamic recordset with record-lock attribute.
c) If an 'already locked' error occurs when this lock is being applied then
the user is informed of the condition and given the appropriate options.
d) When using a 'real' :-) SQL DB (MS SQL/Oracle etc.) much of the record
handling is managed internally as soon as the 'BeginTrans' is applied and
closed or resolved when the 'CommitTrans' or 'RollbackTrans' runs.

It may initially seem a little complex but it gives a full range of options
for managing the data and it allows the client to build large databases with
many users and only requires the purchase a few licenses/seats. (ie. 20
licenses and 100 users.)      

Using ADO makes is easy to switch or attach different data sources with
little effort. (In theory one line of code.) Even web applications can be
created leveraging the same methods. That is not totally true but given that
SQL versions are standardizing coupled with the use of Store
Procedures/Queries, with passing parameters, very few changes are needed. I
am still pacing around the XML pool but believe in the long run that is
where to go.

So there is the 'thumb-nail' sketch of the 'non-bounder' application
implementation methodology.

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 4:35 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

Jim,

My framework (the part that had to do with forms and controls) was indeed
aimed at bound forms.  However the concept works for unbound forms as well.
Indeed it would be even more critical to use a framework as you the
developer are doing so much of the work that Access was doing for you -
loading all of the data into the controls, checking for updates to the data
by other people before you wrote changes back to the table, writing the data
back from controls into fields in the tables, stuff like that.  All of that
code would be framework material.  Once written and stored in the framework,
the doing of it would be automatic by the framework.

If you are one of the unholy (unbounders) why don't you give a thumbnail
sketch of how you manage all of that work.  I will then brainstorm how I
would look at doing it in a framework.  Remember that the concept of a
framework is to make it as automatic as possible.  For example (in a bound
form) I have a form class and I have a class for each control type.  The
form class runs a control scanner, gets the control type of each control,
loads a class instance for each control found.  Once this is done, the form
class and control classes can work together to do tasks.  

As an example, I can literally just drop a pair of controls on the form, a
text box named RecID that exposes (is bound to) the PK (always an
autonumber) and an unbound combo called RecSel.  The names are specific and
if the control scanner finds this pair of controls it knows that a record
selector exists and runs the code.  The afterupdate of the combo by that
name calls a method of the parent form saying "move to recid XXXX".  The
column 0 of the combo is the PK of the record in the form so it knows the
PK.  The form's OnCurrent knows that it needs to keep the combo synced to
the displayed record in the form so it calls a method of the combo class
telling it to display the data relevant to the current record in the form.
Thus the form, the combo and a text box all work as a system to form a
record selector.  If the developer drops these two controls on the form he
"just has" a record selector.  Nothing else is required - other than binding
RecSel to the PK field and setting the combo's query to display the data and
get the PK of the records in the table.

As an unbounder, you need to think about how to achieve this kind of
"automaticness" in the things you do.  Naturally some tasks do require
feeding data into init() methods of classes to set the classes up to do
their job.  After that though the "systems" need to just work together.
Load the data into the unbound form / controls.  Store flags in each
control's class saying that control's data was modified.  Scan for all
controls with modified data and update the underlying data in the record.
Check for data changes in the data you are about to update and inform the
user that another user edited the record since you loaded the data.  Etc.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

Save a copy for me. It sounds like a good read...but I guess it only works
with bound forms.(?)

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 13 12:05:59 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:05:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB E-book
References: <0IJK005EDQJPG2@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <42D549F7.8090307@shaw.ca>

Got this today from my local dotnet usergroup in Victoria
http://www.vicdotnet.org

 Microsoft has been releasing a lot of .NET 2.0 and SQL Server 2005 
training resources
 over the last little while, gearing up for the release of both in November.

Here are a few of the highlights. These free offers have a decent retail 
value,
and are only available for free for a "limited" time (though we aren't 
exactly sure what that means):

Training Courses
ASP.NET:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/learn/asptraining/

Visual Studio 2005:
 https://www.microsoftelearning.com/visualstudio2005/

SQL Server 2005:
https://www.microsoftelearning.com/sqlserver2005/

Free VB.NET 2005 ebook:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/whidbey/introto2005/
   22.5 Meg download

http://www.vicdotnet.org

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 13 12:15:29 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:15:29 -0700
Subject: OT: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB
	E-book
In-Reply-To: <42D549F7.8090307@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0IJK00A6ZT9QEQ@l-daemon>

Hi Marty:

Have we ever met? My daughter's boy-friend, another geek and my self have
regularly attended the dotnet usergroup meetings and have never heard you
name bandied about.

Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB E-book

Got this today from my local dotnet usergroup in Victoria
http://www.vicdotnet.org

 Microsoft has been releasing a lot of .NET 2.0 and SQL Server 2005 
training resources
 over the last little while, gearing up for the release of both in November.

Here are a few of the highlights. These free offers have a decent retail 
value,
and are only available for free for a "limited" time (though we aren't 
exactly sure what that means):

Training Courses
ASP.NET:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/learn/asptraining/

Visual Studio 2005:
 https://www.microsoftelearning.com/visualstudio2005/

SQL Server 2005:
https://www.microsoftelearning.com/sqlserver2005/

Free VB.NET 2005 ebook:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/whidbey/introto2005/
   22.5 Meg download

http://www.vicdotnet.org

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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Wed Jul 13 12:34:03 2005
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:34:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE01E96A1B@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

I tried the DistinctRow and checked to see if it was updateable.  

I did do testing on a statement that returns no records to delete and
yes I agree that it simply exits without error.  However I noticed that
in those cases if you did a view datasheet you saw a single blank
record, and in the case where I get an error I get no record at all..
Just the titles of the fields.  

After typing the above comments I thought of something...
The subquery is actually querying a stored procedure, which is not
updatable.  So I simulated that query using Linked Tables to SQL Server
which seemed to do the trick.

So from this I gather that the subquery must be updateable as well, of
which I do not understand as it is reading order no's from a different
database just to be used as criteria for the delete query.  If it is
only being used as criteria, why would it need to be updateable as
well??

I open to suggestions.

Rich


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mcgillivray,
Don [ITS]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


A delete query against an empty recordset simply exits without error.
"DELETE * FROM tblMyTable WHERE tblMyTable.MyField = 2;" simply runs and
exits if there are no MyFields in tblMyTable with values equal to 2.  No
error.  I'd say that Doris's suspicion that the recordset is
non-updateable is the more likely cause of Chester's problem.

You may want to re-visit your code to ensure that you're not missing
some other circumstance that is causing your delete queries to fail.

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:40 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


I've recently had this very error 3086.  I found no suggestions to my
solution however came to realize that there was no records being
returned thus causing the error, or so I believed this to be my cause.
Because I call this query from code, I captured this error and exit the
sub without any issues.

To find out if you are returning any records, open the query in design
mode then simply click on the "Datasheet View", this will show you what
your results will be, but will not execute the delete command.

Anyone else have any similar experiences with a delete query.  My delete
query contained a sub-query and was not doing any joins.

Rich 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jul 13 12:38:52 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:38:52 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and
	VB E-book
Message-ID: <s2d56dda.049@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

Thanks!

"Microsoft E-Learning for Visual Studio 2005 is free until November 8,
2005"

/gustav

>>> martyconnelly at shaw.ca 07/13 7:05 pm >>>
Got this today from my local dotnet usergroup in Victoria
http://www.vicdotnet.org 

Microsoft has been releasing a lot of .NET 2.0 and SQL Server 2005
training resources  over the last little while, gearing up for the
release of both in November.

Here are a few of the highlights. These free offers have a decent
retail value, and are only available for free for a "limited" time
(though we aren't 
exactly sure what that means):

Training Courses
ASP.NET:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/learn/asptraining/ 

Visual Studio 2005:
 https://www.microsoftelearning.com/visualstudio2005/ 

SQL Server 2005:
https://www.microsoftelearning.com/sqlserver2005/ 

Free VB.NET 2005 ebook:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/whidbey/introto2005/ 
   22.5 Meg download

http://www.vicdotnet.org 

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 13 12:48:00 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:48:00 -0700
Subject: OT: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB
	E-book
References: <0IJK00A6ZT9QEQ@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <42D553D0.3030302@shaw.ca>

I have only been to a couple, I found the last one a bit torpid, so I 
snuck out
and went back to the grad pub to talk to a couple of profs about Fast 
Fourier ADPCM methods
use with speech and video storage for records mangement, found out there 
are some new optical
disks (write once) coming out next year or 2007 that hold a terabyte via 
holographic methods. It was more
informative to me. Maybe I am just a weirder duck.

Jim Lawrence wrote:

>Hi Marty:
>
>Have we ever met? My daughter's boy-friend, another geek and my self have
>regularly attended the dotnet usergroup meetings and have never heard you
>name bandied about.
>
>Jim  
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:06 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB E-book
>
>Got this today from my local dotnet usergroup in Victoria
>http://www.vicdotnet.org
>
> Microsoft has been releasing a lot of .NET 2.0 and SQL Server 2005 
>training resources
> over the last little while, gearing up for the release of both in November.
>
>Here are a few of the highlights. These free offers have a decent retail 
>value,
>and are only available for free for a "limited" time (though we aren't 
>exactly sure what that means):
>
>Training Courses
>ASP.NET:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/learn/asptraining/
>
>Visual Studio 2005:
> https://www.microsoftelearning.com/visualstudio2005/
>
>SQL Server 2005:
>https://www.microsoftelearning.com/sqlserver2005/
>
>Free VB.NET 2005 ebook:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/whidbey/introto2005/
>   22.5 Meg download
>
>http://www.vicdotnet.org
>
>  
>

-- 
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Canada





From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 13 13:04:14 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:04:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB
	E-book
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C15267@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABECDF@ADGSERVER>

Here's another freebie book: 

Upgrading Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0 to Microsoft Visual Basic .NET
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbrun/staythepath/additionalresources/upgradingvb6
/

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 1:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB E-book


Got this today from my local dotnet usergroup in Victoria
http://www.vicdotnet.org

 Microsoft has been releasing a lot of .NET 2.0 and SQL Server 2005 
training resources
 over the last little while, gearing up for the release of both in November.

Here are a few of the highlights. These free offers have a decent retail 
value,
and are only available for free for a "limited" time (though we aren't 
exactly sure what that means):

Training Courses
ASP.NET:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/learn/asptraining/

Visual Studio 2005:
 https://www.microsoftelearning.com/visualstudio2005/

SQL Server 2005:
https://www.microsoftelearning.com/sqlserver2005/

Free VB.NET 2005 ebook:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/whidbey/introto2005/
   22.5 Meg download

http://www.vicdotnet.org

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From KIsmert at texassystems.com  Wed Jul 13 17:58:21 2005
From: KIsmert at texassystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:58:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
Message-ID: <B7C87D3ABC87FC4E8CFE054CE2E8868A0D37E9@aries.TexasSystems.local>


(Jim Dettman)
<<There was a discussion long ago on this very point; why there were not
more frameworks available for Access . . . I see that other developers
have come up with things to solve the very same problems (PK generation,
pick lists, calendars, etc).  I'm still scratching my head as to why.>>

A fundamental barrier is the lack of an easy way to distribute true
components for use in Access. Any framework library built entirely in
Access lacks a reliable way to share objects with its clients. For
Office 2000 and later, the Office Add-In was touted by Microsoft as a
way of building components for the Office Suite. But it suffers from the
same object-sharing drawbacks as libraries, and because of its extremely
limited distribution, has generated very little interest from the Access
developer community. 

The core technical limitation centers around Access and its use of COM.
Access uses Project Compatibility for generating the GUIDs required for
identifying objects and their interfaces. Project Compatibility means
the object IDs are private to the project, and are re-generated each
time you fully-compile the project. That produces behavior noted before
in this group: when you reference the library in an MDB, and compile
them together, you can share objects, because Project Compatibility
enforces consistency between the two. But, if you open the library
separately, and save changes, the MDB referencing it will break, because
all the old object IDs have been replaced in the new library.

The way out of this dilemma is to build a Type Library, or TLB file. The
TLB is a separate file which provides a stand-alone, unchanging
definition of the objects and interfaces to be shared between the MDB
and the library. Both the MDB and library reference the TLB, and use it
when declaring shared objects. This way, the library can be updated
independently of the MDB, shared between multiple MDBs, and distributed
to third parties. The TLB is the key ingredient that enables reliable
object sharing. 

The catch is, you can't make a Type Library in Access. You would need a
copy of Visual Basic or Visual Studio to get the utilities required do
that task. Because a large number of Access developers don't have these
tools, you have not seen any significant number of distributed
frameworks built entirely in Access. 

-Ken


From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jul 13 19:24:13 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:24:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
Message-ID: <000a01c5880a$5d8d77d0$6601a8c0@user>

Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

TIA
Kath


From robert at servicexp.com  Wed Jul 13 19:42:38 2005
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:42:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
Message-ID: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4EDB@gbsserver.GBS.local>

 

All I know is that I have been waiting an awful long time for this
book...... :-)

Robert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

Around the end of last year, I started rewriting my framework for the
third time, in fact I now call it C2DbFW3G meaning 3rd generation.  It
is Access2K or better - A97 not supported mostly because I use
RaiseEvents which are unsupported in A97.  This version is still not
fully fleshed out simply because I have ported (rewritten) the old 2nd
generation framework piece by piece as I needed the modules, and I
haven't needed the form / control stuff that I had in the 2G version.  

SNIP


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 13 19:49:11 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:49:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B12@infoserver01.infostat.local>

There was a thread on this sometime last year for Access 2002.  It gets
ugly because the code to check the references has to be the first thing
run and it has to be written so that it works even if there are broken
references.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 5:24 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case
Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to
remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

TIA
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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jul 13 19:56:39 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:56:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
In-Reply-To: <000a01c5880a$5d8d77d0$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <200507140056.j6E0ukR3116346@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>

Have you considered late binding?

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:24 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed

Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case
Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to
remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

TIA
Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jul 13 19:57:16 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:57:16 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B12@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <002901c5880e$fab20ea0$6601a8c0@user>

Thanks Charlotte - there is quite a bit on the archive - I'll make my way through it....

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Charlotte Foust 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:49 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


  There was a thread on this sometime last year for Access 2002.  It gets
  ugly because the code to check the references has to be the first thing
  run and it has to be written so that it works even if there are broken
  references.

  Charlotte Foust


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 5:24 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


  Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case
  Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

  I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to
  remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

  TIA
  Kath
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul 13 20:03:40 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:03:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B12@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20050714010356.EQDI7514.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Yes, we discussed this at length. My written response to it all appeared in
Inside Microsoft Access -- the Feb 2005 issue. Ken Ismert helped me write
it. Kath, I'm sending you a copy draft privately. I hope you find something
to help. 

Susan H. 

There was a thread on this sometime last year for Access 2002.  It gets ugly
because the code to check the references has to be the first thing run and
it has to be written so that it works even if there are broken references.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 5:24 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case
Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to
remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

TIA
Kath
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jul 13 20:04:56 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:04:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <0IJJ00F1DZCXNY@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000201c58810$10145770$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I suppose you could pester Wrox about it if you think it would be a book you
would buy.  Maybe forward this to email to Jim Minatel at JMinatel at wiley.com
with your personal experiences and opinions re the lack of good advanced
books for the Access / office arena.  I tried to tell them that I quit
buying new books ages ago because I just wasn't learning anything new from
them.  Maybe if they heard it from members of this list, developers who
actually do this for a living, they might decide there is indeed a market.
I know we don't have thousands of list members but we do represent a large
market segment.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

Save a copy for me. It sounds like a good read...but I guess it only works
with bound forms.(?)

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

Around the end of last year, I started rewriting my framework for the third
time, in fact I now call it C2DbFW3G meaning 3rd generation.  It is Access2K
or better - A97 not supported mostly because I use RaiseEvents which are
unsupported in A97.  This version is still not fully fleshed out simply
because I have ported (rewritten) the old 2nd generation framework piece by
piece as I needed the modules, and I haven't needed the form / control stuff
that I had in the 2G version.  

In fact I started on it because of a project that is generating reports for
a client.  The application is a report system for a call center for short
term disability insurance.  I (re)wrote the call center software from
scratch but the reporting stuff kinda sorta worked and I never rewrote it
from scratch.  The insurance company that hires my client to do the call
center is completely changing THEIR software, which now supports completely
automated data feeds.  

In the past, my system generated Word documents with "new claim notices" and
"advise to pay" notices.  These reports were generated automatically and
attached to emails to the insurer, where they were opened and keyed in to
the system.  Because it was always done that way!  Sigh.

It always sucked, errors on their end keying in the reports etc.

So... Since the new system takes an automated feed, fixed width fields, text
files, FTPd to a site where it is opened and loaded in to the system
automatically, I had the opportunity to rebuild this reporting thing from
scratch.

The kinds of framework things I needed for this application were distinctly
different from the framework things I needed for a typical form based data
entry / call center application.  At the same time, entire pieces are pretty
similar or even identical.  So I yanked the useful classes and code other
than form / control stuff from the 2G framework, took the opportunity to
clean it up a LOT, and "started from scratch", although not exactly as I
have intimated.  The result is a lot cleaner, even more heavily class based,
and uses a "service plug-in" concept.

A framework is really about providing services to an application.  These
services may be clearly a service, such as logging to text files, zipping /
unzipping files, encryption etc., or they may be less clearly a service,
such as a form class that loads control classes that provide record
selectors, JIT subforms, OpenArgs etc.  In the end though, even these are
just services to an application.  What I am trying very hard to do this time
is set up the framework to allow plug-in services where the service is
loaded if it is needed, with a "socket" kind of interface - at least for the
non-form based services.  

Things like SysVars, Zip/Unzip, logging etc are really easy to do this with.
The classes exist and if the application wants a logger it asks for one.  It
is stored in a collection keyed by name and the app can then use it by
calling a .log method of the framework, passing the name of the logger and
the text to log.  If a logger by that name isn't loaded, it loads and then
stores the text that needs to be stored in the log file.

Like that.

It turns out that a log file like that works well for these NCN and ATP
reports.  The application asks for an NCN log, gathers the data and builds
up the fixed width field strings.  When each string (NCN or ATP record) is
finished, the app just writes it to the log file.  When all the records are
written to the log file, the file is emailed or FTPd as desired.  The log
and the email or FTP is just a service.  The APPLICATION has to build ATP
and NCN reports, but it just asks the framework for a log and when the log
is done, asks the framework to email or FTP the log somewhere.

Services.  Neat stuff and lots of fun to do.  

As for the book, well... I have worked on a couple of books for Wrox, but
they gave a lukewarm reception to the idea of this stuff written into a
book.  I am just "doing it myself" and will then pitch it when it is closer
to written.  Sometimes the powers that be just don't "get" what you want to
do.  Or maybe it just won't sell and I'll be sitting on a years worth of
writing.  I have never seen a book like this for the Access arena so I just
want to do it.

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


Ahhh, I can finally stop holding my breath! I threw my poor excuse of an
answer out there just to keep this thread alive, I had a feeling you had
this done in classes and I was just waiting for you to describe how you did
it. :o)

So your writing a book on it all! Can you feed some chapters out on it for
proof reading purposes or something?

John B.

<snip>




From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jul 13 20:14:45 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:14:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
References: <200507140056.j6E0ukR3116346@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <001e01c58811$6be97250$6601a8c0@user>

John - I've never used it. BUT it may be the solution to this case as only some of my users *have* Frontpage installed at all.

I'm a bit scared of the speed issues, but how do In convert code below to use late binding instaed?

Kath

Private Sub CmdOpenFP_Click()

Dim oFPweb As FrontPage.Web
Dim oFP As FrontPage.Application
Dim FrontPageRunning As Boolean

'Determine whether FrontPage is already open or not
FrontPageRunning = IsFrontPageRunning()

If Not FrontPageRunning Then
    Set oFP = CreateObject("Frontpage.Application")
Else
    Set oFP = GetObject(, "Frontpage.Application")
End If

'add code here later to make a copy of my file

'open file in front page------------------------------------------------
oFP.Webs.Open ("E:/Sds/Clients/CPP/Webletters/template.html") 
 ' Show FrontPage
 oFPweb.Activate
 'Set oFP = Nothing

End Sub
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Bartow 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:56 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


  Have you considered late binding?

  John B.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:24 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed

  Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case
  Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

  I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to
  remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

  TIA
  Kath
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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jul 13 21:40:24 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:40:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
In-Reply-To: <001e01c58811$6be97250$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <200507140240.j6E2eV8s323538@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Kath,
Speed shouldn't be a big deal. I use late binding with Word and it doesn't
seem to take any longer than earlier binding plus it works with all versions
of word. I say seems because to be clock ticks are not as important as user
impression. Give them the hourglass at the start of the routine and turn if
on and off a few times. Builds hope :o)

Here's an article from our newsletter that explains it quite well:
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newsletters/newsletter072002/0207wordautomat
ionlpt1.htm

It really should be fairly easy after you browse that.

HTH
John B. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed

John - I've never used it. BUT it may be the solution to this case as only
some of my users *have* Frontpage installed at all.

I'm a bit scared of the speed issues, but how do In convert code below to
use late binding instaed?

Kath

Private Sub CmdOpenFP_Click()

Dim oFPweb As FrontPage.Web
Dim oFP As FrontPage.Application
Dim FrontPageRunning As Boolean

'Determine whether FrontPage is already open or not FrontPageRunning =
IsFrontPageRunning()

If Not FrontPageRunning Then
    Set oFP = CreateObject("Frontpage.Application")
Else
    Set oFP = GetObject(, "Frontpage.Application") End If

'add code here later to make a copy of my file

'open file in front page------------------------------------------------
oFP.Webs.Open ("E:/Sds/Clients/CPP/Webletters/template.html")
 ' Show FrontPage
 oFPweb.Activate
 'Set oFP = Nothing

End Sub
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: John Bartow
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:56 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


  Have you considered late binding?

  John B.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:24 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed

  Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case
  Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

  I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to
  remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

  TIA
  Kath
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul 13 23:13:35 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:13:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <000201c58810$10145770$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050714041334.RYLD16323.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Wrox no longer exists. They went bankrupt owing me money. :( 

Susan H. 

I suppose you could pester Wrox about it if you think it would be a book you
would buy.  Maybe 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jul 13 23:29:23 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:29:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <0IJK005EDQJPG2@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000001c5882c$9f82dfa0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

OK, bear with me since I am new to this unbound (but data aware) form
business.

Forms have a recordset correct, just not bound to one.
Controls on each form are created manually and the named.  The corresponding
field is set how?  IOW how is the control made aware of the data that it is
unbound to.  Do you (currently) use classes for this at all?  

Off the top of my head, I see a need to load a class instance for each
control, which will hold the field name that the control loads data from and
writes changes back to.  A "dirty" variable to indicate that the control
(data) has been modified.  The form class then has a control scanner that
loads a control instance for each control discovered on the form.  

The form init will init the form class, then go back and initialize each
control with the field name that it is unbound to.  The form class knows how
to read data and then iterates the control classes pushing in data values to
the control class, which in turn pushes the value in to the control.  Or the
control class just uses the control as the structure that holds the data
value.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but unbound controls don't manipulate the
OldValue property the way that bound controls do, correct?  Thus the control
class needs to store the value into an OldVal variable in the control class.


What events work correctly with unbound forms and controls, and which events
do not fire or exhibit issues due to the unboundness?  IOW it seems that a
form BeforeUpdate / AfterUpdate etc simply wouldn't fire since there is no
bound recordset to monitor.  What about controls?  Is there any
documentation anywhere that discusses the event differences between bound
and unbound forms and controls?  My bound object classes sink the events for
the object that they represent and can (and do) run code in those events.  I
need to know the differences between bound object events and unbound object
events.

I actually have a tiny little form (8 controls or so) that I need to take
unbound to eliminate locking issues that I simply cannot resolve with the
bound version.

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

The methods I have used were designed about eight years ago and have
copied/improved again and again. Here are the basics and a step by step
methodology:
1. I always use ADO-OLE. (One exception is MySQL... a bit of a pain. If
someone could figure out a method that would not require a station by
station visit to install the MySQL ODBC drivers I would be for ever
indebted.)
2. The forms and subforms are populated as the user moves through the
records and but until the user actually changes field content on a form or
attempts to delete the current record, the recordset used to feed the form
is static. 3. a) A record or group of records in the case of a subform being
displayed, are first pulled into a recordset, and content are then used to
populate the form collection. In theory the record exists in three places.  
b) If there is a change of deletion request the recordset is locked by
creating a dynamic recordset with record-lock attribute.
c) If an 'already locked' error occurs when this lock is being applied then
the user is informed of the condition and given the appropriate options.
d) When using a 'real' :-) SQL DB (MS SQL/Oracle etc.) much of the record
handling is managed internally as soon as the 'BeginTrans' is applied and
closed or resolved when the 'CommitTrans' or 'RollbackTrans' runs.

It may initially seem a little complex but it gives a full range of options
for managing the data and it allows the client to build large databases with
many users and only requires the purchase a few licenses/seats. (ie. 20
licenses and 100 users.)      

Using ADO makes is easy to switch or attach different data sources with
little effort. (In theory one line of code.) Even web applications can be
created leveraging the same methods. That is not totally true but given that
SQL versions are standardizing coupled with the use of Store
Procedures/Queries, with passing parameters, very few changes are needed. I
am still pacing around the XML pool but believe in the long run that is
where to go.

So there is the 'thumb-nail' sketch of the 'non-bounder' application
implementation methodology.

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 4:35 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

Jim,

My framework (the part that had to do with forms and controls) was indeed
aimed at bound forms.  However the concept works for unbound forms as well.
Indeed it would be even more critical to use a framework as you the
developer are doing so much of the work that Access was doing for you -
loading all of the data into the controls, checking for updates to the data
by other people before you wrote changes back to the table, writing the data
back from controls into fields in the tables, stuff like that.  All of that
code would be framework material.  Once written and stored in the framework,
the doing of it would be automatic by the framework.

If you are one of the unholy (unbounders) why don't you give a thumbnail
sketch of how you manage all of that work.  I will then brainstorm how I
would look at doing it in a framework.  Remember that the concept of a
framework is to make it as automatic as possible.  For example (in a bound
form) I have a form class and I have a class for each control type.  The
form class runs a control scanner, gets the control type of each control,
loads a class instance for each control found.  Once this is done, the form
class and control classes can work together to do tasks.  

As an example, I can literally just drop a pair of controls on the form, a
text box named RecID that exposes (is bound to) the PK (always an
autonumber) and an unbound combo called RecSel.  The names are specific and
if the control scanner finds this pair of controls it knows that a record
selector exists and runs the code.  The afterupdate of the combo by that
name calls a method of the parent form saying "move to recid XXXX".  The
column 0 of the combo is the PK of the record in the form so it knows the
PK.  The form's OnCurrent knows that it needs to keep the combo synced to
the displayed record in the form so it calls a method of the combo class
telling it to display the data relevant to the current record in the form.
Thus the form, the combo and a text box all work as a system to form a
record selector.  If the developer drops these two controls on the form he
"just has" a record selector.  Nothing else is required - other than binding
RecSel to the PK field and setting the combo's query to display the data and
get the PK of the records in the table.

As an unbounder, you need to think about how to achieve this kind of
"automaticness" in the things you do.  Naturally some tasks do require
feeding data into init() methods of classes to set the classes up to do
their job.  After that though the "systems" need to just work together. Load
the data into the unbound form / controls.  Store flags in each control's
class saying that control's data was modified.  Scan for all controls with
modified data and update the underlying data in the record. Check for data
changes in the data you are about to update and inform the user that another
user edited the record since you loaded the data.  Etc.

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

Save a copy for me. It sounds like a good read...but I guess it only works
with bound forms.(?)

Jim 



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jul 13 23:31:13 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:31:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <20050714041334.RYLD16323.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000101c5882c$de51d290$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Not true, many of the assets (specific book titles) were purchased by Wiley,
including the Wrox name.  The last book I worked on was published by Wiley
but under the Wrox moniker.

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:14 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Wrox no longer exists. They went bankrupt owing me money. :( 

Susan H. 

I suppose you could pester Wrox about it if you think it would be a book you
would buy.  Maybe 

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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 14 01:31:57 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:31:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
References: <B7C87D3ABC87FC4E8CFE054CE2E8868A0D37E9@aries.TexasSystems.local>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV6FE4CFAAA59F76DC14EFCAED10@phx.gbl>

"You would need a copy of Visual Basic or Visual Studio to get the utilities 
required do
that task. Because a large number of Access developers don't have these 
tools, you have not seen any significant number of distributed frameworks 
built entirely in Access." Ken

..for the first time it suddenly dawns on me that packaging the Access 2003 
Developer Tools with VB.Net/Visual Studio might actually have made some kind 
of sense ...I'd just assumed it was another MS ploy to force me to buy stuff 
I had no intention of ever using just to get the old ODE goodies :(

William

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From: "Ken Ismert" <KIsmert at texassystems.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 6:58 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


>
> (Jim Dettman)
> <<There was a discussion long ago on this very point; why there were not
> more frameworks available for Access . . . I see that other developers
> have come up with things to solve the very same problems (PK generation,
> pick lists, calendars, etc).  I'm still scratching my head as to why.>>
>
> A fundamental barrier is the lack of an easy way to distribute true
> components for use in Access. Any framework library built entirely in
> Access lacks a reliable way to share objects with its clients. For
> Office 2000 and later, the Office Add-In was touted by Microsoft as a
> way of building components for the Office Suite. But it suffers from the
> same object-sharing drawbacks as libraries, and because of its extremely
> limited distribution, has generated very little interest from the Access
> developer community.
>
> The core technical limitation centers around Access and its use of COM.
> Access uses Project Compatibility for generating the GUIDs required for
> identifying objects and their interfaces. Project Compatibility means
> the object IDs are private to the project, and are re-generated each
> time you fully-compile the project. That produces behavior noted before
> in this group: when you reference the library in an MDB, and compile
> them together, you can share objects, because Project Compatibility
> enforces consistency between the two. But, if you open the library
> separately, and save changes, the MDB referencing it will break, because
> all the old object IDs have been replaced in the new library.
>
> The way out of this dilemma is to build a Type Library, or TLB file. The
> TLB is a separate file which provides a stand-alone, unchanging
> definition of the objects and interfaces to be shared between the MDB
> and the library. Both the MDB and library reference the TLB, and use it
> when declaring shared objects. This way, the library can be updated
> independently of the MDB, shared between multiple MDBs, and distributed
> to third parties. The TLB is the key ingredient that enables reliable
> object sharing.
>
> The catch is, you can't make a Type Library in Access. You would need a
> copy of Visual Basic or Visual Studio to get the utilities required do
> that task. Because a large number of Access developers don't have these
> tools, you have not seen any significant number of distributed
> frameworks built entirely in Access.
>
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Jul 14 03:42:18 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:42:18 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
References: <200507140240.j6E2eV8s323538@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <005601c5884f$f6547050$6601a8c0@user>

<<.....plus it works with all versions
That part sounds good....the most frustrating aspect of being an access /vba developer has to be the fragility of the systems. Compared to writing mainframe applications, I still find this the trickiest aspect. The user changes something on the PC and crash goes the application. So this is something I need to learn. Thanks.
Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Bartow 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:40 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


  Kath,
  Speed shouldn't be a big deal. I use late binding with Word and it doesn't
  seem to take any longer than earlier binding plus it works with all versions
  of word. I say seems because to be clock ticks are not as important as user
  impression. Give them the hourglass at the start of the routine and turn if
  on and off a few times. Builds hope :o)

  Here's an article from our newsletter that explains it quite well:
  http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newsletters/newsletter072002/0207wordautomat
  ionlpt1.htm

  It really should be fairly easy after you browse that.

  HTH
  John B. 

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:15 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed

  John - I've never used it. BUT it may be the solution to this case as only
  some of my users *have* Frontpage installed at all.

  I'm a bit scared of the speed issues, but how do In convert code below to
  use late binding instaed?

  Kath

  Private Sub CmdOpenFP_Click()

  Dim oFPweb As FrontPage.Web
  Dim oFP As FrontPage.Application
  Dim FrontPageRunning As Boolean

  'Determine whether FrontPage is already open or not FrontPageRunning =
  IsFrontPageRunning()

  If Not FrontPageRunning Then
      Set oFP = CreateObject("Frontpage.Application")
  Else
      Set oFP = GetObject(, "Frontpage.Application") End If

  'add code here later to make a copy of my file

  'open file in front page------------------------------------------------
  oFP.Webs.Open ("E:/Sds/Clients/CPP/Webletters/template.html")
   ' Show FrontPage
   oFPweb.Activate
   'Set oFP = Nothing

  End Sub
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: John Bartow
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
    Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:56 AM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


    Have you considered late binding?

    John B.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
    Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:24 PM
    To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
    Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed

    Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case
    Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

    I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to
    remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

    TIA
    Kath
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Jul 14 06:47:18 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 07:47:18 -0400
Subject: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <s2d618ba.085@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Sorry that I didn't reply to this Rusty. I was cleaning out my Junk mail
folder and noticed it somehow got sent into there...don't you feel
special? I don't usually even look in here, but I am expecting a quote
on some Cisco equipment from a new vendor, and being new they sometimes
get put in there. Ya just gotta love how the spammers have created a
mess for us.

Anyhow, I don't know where they get the drug list. I am assumming that,
because we are a govt. agency, that it probably comes from the state
(NY) or medicaid (more probable). I did this as a favor for my
co-worker, who is out this week, and I don't know who she was speaking
with, so I can't check w/them. If you would like, I could look into it
next week for you.

Take care!

John W Clark

>>> <rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com> 7/8/2005 10:07:21 AM >>>
John, you mentioned they get a monthly update of their drug list.  Do
you
know where they are getting this drug list and what the cost is?  I'm
working on an app that requires a drug list.

Thanks,

Rusty Hammond


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] "Like" operator help


I really didn't want to use a form...this is just a simple table (i.e.
not a whole program) that our nursing department will use...they get
an
update monthly (I think it is) and just want to quickly access any
given
drug. But, I did think a form may be the answer, so I whipped up a
quick
litte one. One the form I've got a text box (Text0) and a label
(Text2)...I'm just playing right now, so the names are defaults. On
the "On Change" property of Text0, I've got a statment that says
Text2.Caption = "Like '" & Text0.Text & "*'" 

This is working fine in the label, as it is showing up the way I want
it...although I just noticed that I only have single quotes...hmmmm. I
bet if I can get double quote in there it works.

Right now, if I put "t" into Text0, I see: Like 't*' in Text2,
and in the query I have [Forms]![enterfrm]![Text2] in the criteria
section. This little bugger is turning out to be...well...a little
bugger ;(

>>> pharold at proftesting.com 7/8/2005 9:32 AM >>>
Append the global "*" to whatever is the value entered (as a string)
with the "&" character and then submit to the query.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s
are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

John W Clark
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Jul 14 07:36:26 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:36:26 -0400
Subject: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FBEC@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Isn't working for the government cool?  Here is a link to download the
drug information released by the FDA:

http://www.fda.gov/cder/ndc/index.htm 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:47 AM
To: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

Sorry that I didn't reply to this Rusty. I was cleaning out my Junk mail
folder and noticed it somehow got sent into there...don't you feel
special? I don't usually even look in here, but I am expecting a quote
on some Cisco equipment from a new vendor, and being new they sometimes
get put in there. Ya just gotta love how the spammers have created a
mess for us.

Anyhow, I don't know where they get the drug list. I am assumming that,
because we are a govt. agency, that it probably comes from the state
(NY) or medicaid (more probable). I did this as a favor for my
co-worker, who is out this week, and I don't know who she was speaking
with, so I can't check w/them. If you would like, I could look into it
next week for you.

Take care!

John W Clark

>>> <rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com> 7/8/2005 10:07:21 AM >>>
John, you mentioned they get a monthly update of their drug list.  Do
you know where they are getting this drug list and what the cost is?
I'm working on an app that requires a drug list.

Thanks,

Rusty Hammond


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] "Like" operator help


I really didn't want to use a form...this is just a simple table (i.e.
not a whole program) that our nursing department will use...they get an
update monthly (I think it is) and just want to quickly access any given
drug. But, I did think a form may be the answer, so I whipped up a quick
litte one. One the form I've got a text box (Text0) and a label
(Text2)...I'm just playing right now, so the names are defaults. On the
"On Change" property of Text0, I've got a statment that says
Text2.Caption = "Like '" & Text0.Text & "*'" 

This is working fine in the label, as it is showing up the way I want
it...although I just noticed that I only have single quotes...hmmmm. I
bet if I can get double quote in there it works.

Right now, if I put "t" into Text0, I see: Like 't*' in Text2, and in
the query I have [Forms]![enterfrm]![Text2] in the criteria section.
This little bugger is turning out to be...well...a little bugger ;(

>>> pharold at proftesting.com 7/8/2005 9:32 AM >>>
Append the global "*" to whatever is the value entered (as a string)
with the "&" character and then submit to the query.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Thu Jul 14 09:06:35 2005
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:06:35 -0500
Subject: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A154F807E@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

John, thanks for the reply but I think the link Karen provided is going to
work for me.

Thanks Karen.



-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help


Isn't working for the government cool?  Here is a link to download the
drug information released by the FDA:

http://www.fda.gov/cder/ndc/index.htm 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:47 AM
To: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

Sorry that I didn't reply to this Rusty. I was cleaning out my Junk mail
folder and noticed it somehow got sent into there...don't you feel
special? I don't usually even look in here, but I am expecting a quote
on some Cisco equipment from a new vendor, and being new they sometimes
get put in there. Ya just gotta love how the spammers have created a
mess for us.

Anyhow, I don't know where they get the drug list. I am assumming that,
because we are a govt. agency, that it probably comes from the state
(NY) or medicaid (more probable). I did this as a favor for my
co-worker, who is out this week, and I don't know who she was speaking
with, so I can't check w/them. If you would like, I could look into it
next week for you.

Take care!

John W Clark

>>> <rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com> 7/8/2005 10:07:21 AM >>>
John, you mentioned they get a monthly update of their drug list.  Do
you know where they are getting this drug list and what the cost is?
I'm working on an app that requires a drug list.

Thanks,

Rusty Hammond


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] "Like" operator help


I really didn't want to use a form...this is just a simple table (i.e.
not a whole program) that our nursing department will use...they get an
update monthly (I think it is) and just want to quickly access any given
drug. But, I did think a form may be the answer, so I whipped up a quick
litte one. One the form I've got a text box (Text0) and a label
(Text2)...I'm just playing right now, so the names are defaults. On the
"On Change" property of Text0, I've got a statment that says
Text2.Caption = "Like '" & Text0.Text & "*'" 

This is working fine in the label, as it is showing up the way I want
it...although I just noticed that I only have single quotes...hmmmm. I
bet if I can get double quote in there it works.

Right now, if I put "t" into Text0, I see: Like 't*' in Text2, and in
the query I have [Forms]![enterfrm]![Text2] in the criteria section.
This little bugger is turning out to be...well...a little bugger ;(

>>> pharold at proftesting.com 7/8/2005 9:32 AM >>>
Append the global "*" to whatever is the value entered (as a string)
with the "&" character and then submit to the query.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Jul 14 10:24:03 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:24:03 -0400
Subject: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <s2d64b82.022@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

In some ways yes, but in many other ways no

Thanks for covering this link!

>>> cyx5 at cdc.gov 7/14/2005 8:36:26 AM >>>
Isn't working for the government cool?  Here is a link to download the
drug information released by the FDA:

http://www.fda.gov/cder/ndc/index.htm 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:47 AM
To: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

Sorry that I didn't reply to this Rusty. I was cleaning out my Junk
mail
folder and noticed it somehow got sent into there...don't you feel
special? I don't usually even look in here, but I am expecting a quote
on some Cisco equipment from a new vendor, and being new they
sometimes
get put in there. Ya just gotta love how the spammers have created a
mess for us.

Anyhow, I don't know where they get the drug list. I am assumming
that,
because we are a govt. agency, that it probably comes from the state
(NY) or medicaid (more probable). I did this as a favor for my
co-worker, who is out this week, and I don't know who she was speaking
with, so I can't check w/them. If you would like, I could look into it
next week for you.

Take care!

John W Clark

>>> <rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com> 7/8/2005 10:07:21 AM >>>
John, you mentioned they get a monthly update of their drug list.  Do
you know where they are getting this drug list and what the cost is?
I'm working on an app that requires a drug list.

Thanks,

Rusty Hammond


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] "Like" operator help


I really didn't want to use a form...this is just a simple table (i.e.
not a whole program) that our nursing department will use...they get
an
update monthly (I think it is) and just want to quickly access any
given
drug. But, I did think a form may be the answer, so I whipped up a
quick
litte one. One the form I've got a text box (Text0) and a label
(Text2)...I'm just playing right now, so the names are defaults. On
the
"On Change" property of Text0, I've got a statment that says
Text2.Caption = "Like '" & Text0.Text & "*'" 

This is working fine in the label, as it is showing up the way I want
it...although I just noticed that I only have single quotes...hmmmm. I
bet if I can get double quote in there it works.

Right now, if I put "t" into Text0, I see: Like 't*' in Text2, and in
the query I have [Forms]![enterfrm]![Text2] in the criteria section.
This little bugger is turning out to be...well...a little bugger ;(

>>> pharold at proftesting.com 7/8/2005 9:32 AM >>>
Append the global "*" to whatever is the value entered (as a string)
with the "&" character and then submit to the query.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s
are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

John W Clark
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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jul 14 10:41:39 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:41:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB
	E-book
In-Reply-To: <42D549F7.8090307@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200507141541.j6EFffR08526@databaseadvisors.com>

After your tantalizing offer, I have just wasted about an hour going around
in circles. I have even tried it on two machines, just to make sure that I`m
not going crazy. 

I select the course. I go to the content page. I select All then, download
selected items. It tells me the Offline player is not installed. I download
it and install it, then close the browser and try again. Same scenario
exactly -- the offline player is not installed. Try again. Same problem. 

I`d love to grab all this material, but somehow I must convince Windows that
the offline player is installed.

Incidentally, one box is running winServer2003 and the other is running
winXP Pro.

Any suggestions greatly appreciated...

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: July 13, 2005 1:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB E-book

Got this today from my local dotnet usergroup in Victoria
http://www.vicdotnet.org

 Microsoft has been releasing a lot of .NET 2.0 and SQL Server 2005 
training resources
 over the last little while, gearing up for the release of both in November.

Here are a few of the highlights. These free offers have a decent retail 
value,
and are only available for free for a "limited" time (though we aren't 
exactly sure what that means):

Training Courses
ASP.NET:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/learn/asptraining/

Visual Studio 2005:
 https://www.microsoftelearning.com/visualstudio2005/

SQL Server 2005:
https://www.microsoftelearning.com/sqlserver2005/

Free VB.NET 2005 ebook:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/whidbey/introto2005/
   22.5 Meg download

http://www.vicdotnet.org

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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Jul 14 12:05:28 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:35:28 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
References: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEMGDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com> 
	<42D4D97B.12035.18CE6683@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <002201c58896$6b074e40$f31865cb@winxp>

Stuart,

    Sub-routine named P_QueryFriendlyCaption() given below, should be able to get the desired effect. Essentially, it involves making a temporary copy of the query, under the specified descriptive name. 

    Whenever, a fresh query needs to be displayed, previously existing temp query (if any) gets deleted, so that at any given stage, there is no more than one temp query. Finally when the form is closed, any temp query still around, gets deleted, so that the status of queries collection remains undisturbed.

    Complete code for form's module is given below. Query to be displayed is selected via combo box named CboQuery. Desired friendly caption is entered in text box named TxtCaption. On clicking the command button (CmdShow), the query gets displayed with appropriate caption (If TxtCaption is left blank, the query gets displayed under its original name).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

Form's Code Module
===================================
' General Declarations section
Private TempQuery As String   ' Global variable
------------------------------------------------------------

Private Sub P_QueryFriendlyCaption(ByVal RealName _
                        As String, ByVal DisplayName As String)
    On Error Resume Next
    
    ' Delete TempQuery if any and also query named
    ' DisplayName if any
    If Len(TempQuery) > 0 And _
                        TempQuery <> RealName Then
        DoCmd.DeleteObject acQuery, TempQuery
        ' Reset the value for global variable
        ' (Useful in clearing temp query in form's Close event)
        TempQuery = ""
    End If
    If DisplayName <> RealName Then
        DoCmd.DeleteObject acQuery, DisplayName
    End If
    
    ' Copy query named RealName as a temp query
    ' named DisplayName
    If DisplayName <> RealName Then
        ' Set global variable - for deletion of temp query
        ' in next round
        TempQuery = DisplayName
        DoCmd.CopyObject , DisplayName, _
                                            acQuery, RealName
    End If
    
    ' Display the newly copied query
    DoCmd.OpenQuery DisplayName
    DoCmd.Maximize
    
    On Error GoTo 0
End Sub

Private Sub CmdShow_Click()
    If Len(CboQuery) > 0 Then
        P_QueryFriendlyCaption CboQuery, _
                            Nz(TxtCaption, CboQuery)
    End If
End Sub

Private Sub Form_Activate()
    DoCmd.Restore
End Sub

Private Sub Form_Close()
    ' Delete temp query if any
    If Len(TempQuery) > 0 Then
        DoCmd.DeleteObject acQuery, TempQuery
    End If
End Sub
===================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stuart McLachlan 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 04:36
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


  On 12 Jul 2005 at 17:52, Josh McFarlane wrote:

  > 
  > DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"
  > 
  > Then in the on open handler:
  > Caption = OpenArgs
  > 
  > or something similar to fit your needs.
  > -- 

  In a similar vein, has any looked into changing the Caption in a query datasheet or print preview.   I often shortcut in simple applications and display a query to the user rather than going to the effort of producing a report based on the query. It would be nice to customise the header on a printout of the query.

  -- 
  Stuart


From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jul 14 12:41:01 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:41:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] List of users
Message-ID: <200507141741.j6EHf9R04354@databaseadvisors.com>

I know that JWC and others have devised methods of detemining the users in
an app. My question is this - given that say three front-ends are talking to
a single back-end, what does the list of users show. front-end users or
back-end users.

 

TIA,

Arthur



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jul 14 12:57:01 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:57:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] List of users
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B17@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Using ADO and monitoring the *back end*, you get the users connected to
the backend, including your own connection.  It doesn't know anything
about how the connection was made, just that there is one.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] List of users


I know that JWC and others have devised methods of detemining the users
in an app. My question is this - given that say three front-ends are
talking to a single back-end, what does the list of users show.
front-end users or back-end users.

 

TIA,

Arthur

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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jul 14 13:13:31 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:13:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] List of users
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B17@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200507141813.j6EIDWR12208@databaseadvisors.com>

Thanks! One more question on same.... given an ADP connection, I am likely
to see redundant names of the individual users. (This is because it is smart
and opens new connections to populate combo-boxes etc.) Does this occur in a
classic FE-BE setup.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: July 14, 2005 1:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List of users

Using ADO and monitoring the *back end*, you get the users connected to
the backend, including your own connection.  It doesn't know anything
about how the connection was made, just that there is one.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] List of users


I know that JWC and others have devised methods of detemining the users
in an app. My question is this - given that say three front-ends are
talking to a single back-end, what does the list of users show.
front-end users or back-end users.

 

TIA,

Arthur

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jul 14 14:58:21 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:58:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] List of users
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B18@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Not unless you have ODBC connections and are also creating OLEDb
connections in code.  Then you would see redundant names.  And actually,
you'll see the machine names plus the Access security login.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:14 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List of users


Thanks! One more question on same.... given an ADP connection, I am
likely to see redundant names of the individual users. (This is because
it is smart and opens new connections to populate combo-boxes etc.) Does
this occur in a classic FE-BE setup.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: July 14, 2005 1:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List of users

Using ADO and monitoring the *back end*, you get the users connected to
the backend, including your own connection.  It doesn't know anything
about how the connection was made, just that there is one.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] List of users


I know that JWC and others have devised methods of detemining the users
in an app. My question is this - given that say three front-ends are
talking to a single back-end, what does the list of users show.
front-end users or back-end users.

 

TIA,

Arthur

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Jul 14 15:00:13 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:00:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] List of users
In-Reply-To: <16669435.1121365030985.JavaMail.root@sniper18>
Message-ID: <000201c588ae$a7264f80$0518820a@danwaters>

Arthur,

This is the code I use to populate a temp table, and then display a list of
current users.  Note that this is looking at the workgroup file, not the FE
or the BE.

Private Sub butWhosLoggedIn_Click()
If ErrorTrapping = True Then On Error GoTo EH

    Dim con As New ADODB.Connection
    Dim rst As New ADODB.Recordset
    Dim rstData As DAO.Recordset
    Dim stgData As String
    Dim stg As String
    Dim stgFullName As String
    Dim rstFullname As DAO.Recordset
    Dim stgUserName As String

    '-- The user roster is exposed as a provider-specific schema rowset _
        in the Jet 4.0 OLE DB provider.  You have to use a GUID to _
        reference the schema, as provider-specific schemas are not _
        listed in ADO's type library for schema rowsets

    '-- This is partly from MSKB 198755 and is specific to Access 2000 & up
    con.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;Data Source=" _
        & SystemFolderPath & "\Workgroup\" & SystemWorkgroupName

    Set rst = con.OpenSchema(adSchemaProviderSpecific, ,
"{947bb102-5d43-11d1-bdbf-00c04fb92675}")
    
    '-- Output the list of all users in the current database.
    
    stg = "DELETE * FROM tblCurrentUsers"
    DoCmd.SetWarnings False
    DoCmd.RunSQL stg
    DoCmd.SetWarnings True
    
    stgData = "SELECT * FROM tblCurrentUsers"
    Set rstData = DBEngine(0)(0).OpenRecordset(stgData, dbOpenDynaset)
    
    Do While Not rst.EOF
        stgUserName = Left$(rst.Fields(1), InStr(1, rst.Fields(1), Chr(0)) -
1)
        If stgUserName <> "Admin" Then
            rstData.AddNew
            rstData!ComputerName = Left$(rst.Fields(0), InStr(1,
rst.Fields(0), Chr(0)) - 1)
            rstData!UserName = stgUserName
            stgFullName = "SELECT Person FROM tblPeopleMain" _
                & " WHERE UserName = '" & rstData!UserName & "'"
            Set rstFullname = DBEngine(0)(0).OpenRecordset(stgFullName,
dbOpenSnapshot)
            rstData!FullName = rstFullname!Person
            rstData!Connected = rst.Fields(2).Value
            If IsNull(rst.Fields(3)) Then
                rstData!Suspect = Null
            Else
                rstData!Suspect = Left$(rst.Fields(3), InStr(1,
rst.Fields(3), Chr(0)) - 1)
            End If
            rstData.Update
            rstFullname.Close
            Set rstFullname = Nothing
        End If
        rst.MoveNext
    Loop
    
    DoCmd.OpenReport "rptCurrentUsers", acViewPreview
    
    rst.Close
    Set rst = Nothing
    rstData.Close
    Set rstData = Nothing
    
    Exit Sub
    
EH:
    Application.Echo True
    DoCmd.SetWarnings True
    Call GlobalErrors("", Err.Number, Err.Description, Me.Name,
"butWhosLoggedIn_Click")

End Sub

HTH,
Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:14 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List of users

Thanks! One more question on same.... given an ADP connection, I am likely
to see redundant names of the individual users. (This is because it is smart
and opens new connections to populate combo-boxes etc.) Does this occur in a
classic FE-BE setup.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: July 14, 2005 1:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List of users

Using ADO and monitoring the *back end*, you get the users connected to
the backend, including your own connection.  It doesn't know anything
about how the connection was made, just that there is one.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] List of users


I know that JWC and others have devised methods of detemining the users
in an app. My question is this - given that say three front-ends are
talking to a single back-end, what does the list of users show.
front-end users or back-end users.

 

TIA,

Arthur

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Jul 14 16:49:37 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:49:37 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <002201c58896$6b074e40$f31865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <42D76A91.23004.247ACE6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Jul 2005 at 22:35, A.D.Tejpal wrote:

> 
>     Sub-routine named P_QueryFriendlyCaption() given below, should be able to get the desired
> effect. Essentially, it involves making a temporary copy of the query, under the specified
> descriptive name. 
> 
>     Whenever, a fresh query needs to be displayed, previously existing temp query (if any) gets
> deleted, so that at any given stage, there is no more than one temp query. Finally when the form
> is closed, any temp query still around, gets deleted, so that the status of queries collection
> remains undisturbed.

That's smart thinking.
Why didn't I think of that :-(

Thanks,


-- 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jul 14 19:28:22 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:28:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
Message-ID: <000501c588d4$1e985070$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

As part of the reporting app I am writing for the call center, I need to do
some data validation and report fields that fail the validation.  The query
that pulls data for the reports can come from many different tables, as many
as 8 or 10.  The issue is how to report that the data in FieldName X in
TableName Y is invalid.  

I have to build a report of data that fails the validation, and issue the
report so that the data can be fixed.  For example some fields are critical
to the client, i.e. "do not send the record in the report if the data in
fields A, F, G, K, or X are missing".  The nature of this business is that
data is collected piecemeal over time but specific pieces just absolutely
have to be there before these reports (data extracts) can be sent to the
client.

I already have a system that builds classes to hold the reporting
information about the export, the record and the fields IN THE QUERY but one
thing that is tough to get (directly) is the actual table name and field
name in the source field of a query.  As a result I designed a little class
to accept a field object from DAO and grab specific properties from that
field object.  The specifics looks something like:

In the class header:

Private mstrForeignName As String
Private mstrName As String
Private mvarDefaultValue As Variant
Private mblnAllowZeroLength As Boolean
Private mblnDataUpdatable As Boolean
Private mvarOriginalValue As Variant
Private mblnRequired As Boolean
Private mlngSize As Long
Private mstrSourceField As String
Private mstrSourceTable As String
Private mintType As Integer
Private mstrValidationRule As String
Private mstrValidationText As String
Private mvarValue As Variant
Private mvarVisibleValue As Variant

And the class method that accepts a field object and pulls these properties
out:

Public Function mReadClassProperties(lFld As DAO.Field)
On Error GoTo Err_mReadClassProperties
    On Error Resume Next
    With lFld
        mblnAllowZeroLength = .AllowZeroLength
        mblnDataUpdatable = .DataUpdatable
        mvarDefaultValue = .DefaultValue
        mstrForeignName = .ForeignName
        mstrName = .Name
        mvarOriginalValue = .OriginalValue
        mblnRequired = .Required
        mlngSize = .Size
        mstrSourceField = .SourceField
        mstrSourceTable = .SourceTable
        mintType = .Type
        mstrValidationRule = .ValidationRule
        mstrValidationText = .ValidationText
        mvarValue = .Value
        mvarVisibleValue = .VisibleValue
    End With
Exit_mReadClassProperties:
Exit Function
Err_mReadClassProperties:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
clsDAOFld.mReadClassProperties"
        Resume Exit_mReadClassProperties
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

And of course methods to read the property values:

Public Property Get pForeignName() As String
    pForeignName = mstrForeignName
End Property
Public Property Get pName() As String
    pName = mstrName
End Property
Public Property Get pDefaultValue() As Variant
    pDefaultValue = mvarDefaultValue
End Property

Etc etc.


The reason that I store these field properties in my own class is that I
need to gather the data about each field in the big query one time, as the
recordset is opened, rather than each time a record is read (for speed).  I
am currently really only interested in the static stuff like SourceField and
SourceTable but for completeness just added the rest.

Notice that some of the field properties are dynamic and some are static,
i.e. some are about data and others are about the format of the data.  I
could (and probably will eventually) break this down into two methods, one
that grabs the static properties such as AllowZeroLength, DefaultValue,
SourceField, stuff like that ONE TIME, and another method that grabs the
dynamic data every time the record changes - Value and Original Value, stuff
like that.

At any rate, I now have a class that I can open a recordset from a query,
iterate through the fields collection instantiating one of these classes for
each field, then save the properties at the instant the recordset opens.  I
then have any static properties - specifically of interest right now is
SourceField and SourceTable - to use whenever I need to report or log a
field as being empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jul 14 22:25:22 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:25:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <000501c588d4$1e985070$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000601c588ec$d5f8f810$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I have tried the same thing with the ADODB.Field object but there is nothing
like the wealth of properties that DAO makes available, and I see nothing
like SourceTable and SourceField.

Anyone know if this is possible with ADO?

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties


As part of the reporting app I am writing for the call center, I need to do
some data validation and report fields that fail the validation.  The query
that pulls data for the reports can come from many different tables, as many
as 8 or 10.  The issue is how to report that the data in FieldName X in
TableName Y is invalid.  

I have to build a report of data that fails the validation, and issue the
report so that the data can be fixed.  For example some fields are critical
to the client, i.e. "do not send the record in the report if the data in
fields A, F, G, K, or X are missing".  The nature of this business is that
data is collected piecemeal over time but specific pieces just absolutely
have to be there before these reports (data extracts) can be sent to the
client.

I already have a system that builds classes to hold the reporting
information about the export, the record and the fields IN THE QUERY but one
thing that is tough to get (directly) is the actual table name and field
name in the source field of a query.  As a result I designed a little class
to accept a field object from DAO and grab specific properties from that
field object.  The specifics looks something like:

In the class header:

Private mstrForeignName As String
Private mstrName As String
Private mvarDefaultValue As Variant
Private mblnAllowZeroLength As Boolean
Private mblnDataUpdatable As Boolean
Private mvarOriginalValue As Variant
Private mblnRequired As Boolean
Private mlngSize As Long
Private mstrSourceField As String
Private mstrSourceTable As String
Private mintType As Integer
Private mstrValidationRule As String
Private mstrValidationText As String
Private mvarValue As Variant
Private mvarVisibleValue As Variant

And the class method that accepts a field object and pulls these properties
out:

Public Function mReadClassProperties(lFld As DAO.Field)
On Error GoTo Err_mReadClassProperties
    On Error Resume Next
    With lFld
        mblnAllowZeroLength = .AllowZeroLength
        mblnDataUpdatable = .DataUpdatable
        mvarDefaultValue = .DefaultValue
        mstrForeignName = .ForeignName
        mstrName = .Name
        mvarOriginalValue = .OriginalValue
        mblnRequired = .Required
        mlngSize = .Size
        mstrSourceField = .SourceField
        mstrSourceTable = .SourceTable
        mintType = .Type
        mstrValidationRule = .ValidationRule
        mstrValidationText = .ValidationText
        mvarValue = .Value
        mvarVisibleValue = .VisibleValue
    End With
Exit_mReadClassProperties:
Exit Function
Err_mReadClassProperties:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
clsDAOFld.mReadClassProperties"
        Resume Exit_mReadClassProperties
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

And of course methods to read the property values:

Public Property Get pForeignName() As String
    pForeignName = mstrForeignName
End Property
Public Property Get pName() As String
    pName = mstrName
End Property
Public Property Get pDefaultValue() As Variant
    pDefaultValue = mvarDefaultValue
End Property

Etc etc.


The reason that I store these field properties in my own class is that I
need to gather the data about each field in the big query one time, as the
recordset is opened, rather than each time a record is read (for speed).  I
am currently really only interested in the static stuff like SourceField and
SourceTable but for completeness just added the rest.

Notice that some of the field properties are dynamic and some are static,
i.e. some are about data and others are about the format of the data.  I
could (and probably will eventually) break this down into two methods, one
that grabs the static properties such as AllowZeroLength, DefaultValue,
SourceField, stuff like that ONE TIME, and another method that grabs the
dynamic data every time the record changes - Value and Original Value, stuff
like that.

At any rate, I now have a class that I can open a recordset from a query,
iterate through the fields collection instantiating one of these classes for
each field, then save the properties at the instant the recordset opens.  I
then have any static properties - specifically of interest right now is
SourceField and SourceTable - to use whenever I need to report or log a
field as being empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jul 15 01:36:13 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:36:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <000601c588ec$d5f8f810$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <000501c588d4$1e985070$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <42D7E5FD.25420.429C3F0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Jul 2005 at 23:25, John W. Colby wrote:

> I have tried the same thing with the ADODB.Field object but there is nothing
> like the wealth of properties that DAO makes available, and I see nothing
> like SourceTable and SourceField.
> 
> Anyone know if this is possible with ADO?
> 

ADO is an "abstraction layer" between the data source and your application.
The whole idea is that you don't need to know anything about the physical 
storage methods behind the recordset that you are working with.  AFAIK, 
there is no way with an ADO recordset to tell where a particular piece of 
data came from.

-- 
Stuart




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jul 15 09:38:33 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:38:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <42D7E5FD.25420.429C3F0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <001101c5894a$e3ac9210$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

That's what I thought.  In cases like this it is useful to be able to get at
the physical layer.  DAO is occasionally still useful.

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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties


On 14 Jul 2005 at 23:25, John W. Colby wrote:

> I have tried the same thing with the ADODB.Field object but there is 
> nothing like the wealth of properties that DAO makes available, and I 
> see nothing like SourceTable and SourceField.
> 
> Anyone know if this is possible with ADO?
> 

ADO is an "abstraction layer" between the data source and your application.
The whole idea is that you don't need to know anything about the physical 
storage methods behind the recordset that you are working with.  AFAIK, 
there is no way with an ADO recordset to tell where a particular piece of 
data came from.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jul 15 10:11:11 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:11:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B19@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The closest you come to a DAO.Field object is the ADOX.Column object.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties


I have tried the same thing with the ADODB.Field object but there is
nothing like the wealth of properties that DAO makes available, and I
see nothing like SourceTable and SourceField.

Anyone know if this is possible with ADO?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties


As part of the reporting app I am writing for the call center, I need to
do some data validation and report fields that fail the validation.  The
query that pulls data for the reports can come from many different
tables, as many as 8 or 10.  The issue is how to report that the data in
FieldName X in TableName Y is invalid.  

I have to build a report of data that fails the validation, and issue
the report so that the data can be fixed.  For example some fields are
critical to the client, i.e. "do not send the record in the report if
the data in fields A, F, G, K, or X are missing".  The nature of this
business is that data is collected piecemeal over time but specific
pieces just absolutely have to be there before these reports (data
extracts) can be sent to the client.

I already have a system that builds classes to hold the reporting
information about the export, the record and the fields IN THE QUERY but
one thing that is tough to get (directly) is the actual table name and
field name in the source field of a query.  As a result I designed a
little class to accept a field object from DAO and grab specific
properties from that field object.  The specifics looks something like:

In the class header:

Private mstrForeignName As String
Private mstrName As String
Private mvarDefaultValue As Variant
Private mblnAllowZeroLength As Boolean
Private mblnDataUpdatable As Boolean
Private mvarOriginalValue As Variant
Private mblnRequired As Boolean
Private mlngSize As Long
Private mstrSourceField As String
Private mstrSourceTable As String
Private mintType As Integer
Private mstrValidationRule As String
Private mstrValidationText As String
Private mvarValue As Variant
Private mvarVisibleValue As Variant

And the class method that accepts a field object and pulls these
properties
out:

Public Function mReadClassProperties(lFld As DAO.Field)
On Error GoTo Err_mReadClassProperties
    On Error Resume Next
    With lFld
        mblnAllowZeroLength = .AllowZeroLength
        mblnDataUpdatable = .DataUpdatable
        mvarDefaultValue = .DefaultValue
        mstrForeignName = .ForeignName
        mstrName = .Name
        mvarOriginalValue = .OriginalValue
        mblnRequired = .Required
        mlngSize = .Size
        mstrSourceField = .SourceField
        mstrSourceTable = .SourceTable
        mintType = .Type
        mstrValidationRule = .ValidationRule
        mstrValidationText = .ValidationText
        mvarValue = .Value
        mvarVisibleValue = .VisibleValue
    End With
Exit_mReadClassProperties:
Exit Function
Err_mReadClassProperties:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
clsDAOFld.mReadClassProperties"
        Resume Exit_mReadClassProperties
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

And of course methods to read the property values:

Public Property Get pForeignName() As String
    pForeignName = mstrForeignName
End Property
Public Property Get pName() As String
    pName = mstrName
End Property
Public Property Get pDefaultValue() As Variant
    pDefaultValue = mvarDefaultValue
End Property

Etc etc.


The reason that I store these field properties in my own class is that I
need to gather the data about each field in the big query one time, as
the recordset is opened, rather than each time a record is read (for
speed).  I am currently really only interested in the static stuff like
SourceField and SourceTable but for completeness just added the rest.

Notice that some of the field properties are dynamic and some are
static, i.e. some are about data and others are about the format of the
data.  I could (and probably will eventually) break this down into two
methods, one that grabs the static properties such as AllowZeroLength,
DefaultValue, SourceField, stuff like that ONE TIME, and another method
that grabs the dynamic data every time the record changes - Value and
Original Value, stuff like that.

At any rate, I now have a class that I can open a recordset from a
query, iterate through the fields collection instantiating one of these
classes for each field, then save the properties at the instant the
recordset opens.  I then have any static properties - specifically of
interest right now is SourceField and SourceTable - to use whenever I
need to report or log a field as being empty.

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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 15 10:25:41 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:25:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access
Message-ID: <BAY104-F33E969385AEA83A20BDB739AD00@phx.gbl>

Hi Everyone,

Just wondered if there were some opinions about developing in File Maker Pro 
vs. Access.  I have heard a few opinions on the topic in the past, but 
wondered if anyone out there has experience in both.

I'm supporting an application (backup support) that was written in File 
Maker Pro, and the users keep complaining that it runs really slowly around 
the first of the month(when they are the busiest)  Since the application was 
written by another company, I dont' have any rights to make changes. The 
company claims that everything is working great.......but the users of 
course aren't happy.

It seems that File Maker is opening every single module, even though the 
users may only be calling one portion of the program.  You can actually sit 
there and watch all of the screens load. There must be at least fifteen of 
them.  Just wondering if this is a File Maker standard type occurrence, or 
maybe just the way the programmer made things happen.

Any opinions?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jul 15 10:56:15 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:56:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B1B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can create some incredibly BAD applicatons in File Maker, how bad
depends on the version. :-<

There is very little distinction in FileMaker between the GUI and the
data structures and only the latest version actually keeps all the
tables and "relationships" in a single file instead of separate files.
I'm not sure there ARE any "standard" occurrences in FileMaker, but you
can download a 30-day free trial of the latest version and play with it
to see how it behaves.  It is enough to make any Access developer fall
to their knees in gratitude that they don't have to use FileMaker!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Julie Reardon-Taylor [mailto:prosoft6 at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:26 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access


Hi Everyone,

Just wondered if there were some opinions about developing in File Maker
Pro 
vs. Access.  I have heard a few opinions on the topic in the past, but 
wondered if anyone out there has experience in both.

I'm supporting an application (backup support) that was written in File 
Maker Pro, and the users keep complaining that it runs really slowly
around 
the first of the month(when they are the busiest)  Since the application
was 
written by another company, I dont' have any rights to make changes. The

company claims that everything is working great.......but the users of 
course aren't happy.

It seems that File Maker is opening every single module, even though the

users may only be calling one portion of the program.  You can actually
sit 
there and watch all of the screens load. There must be at least fifteen
of 
them.  Just wondering if this is a File Maker standard type occurrence,
or 
maybe just the way the programmer made things happen.

Any opinions?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Jul 15 12:32:16 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:32:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC1F@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the
combo box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jul 15 12:40:21 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:40:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <000001c5882c$9f82dfa0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IJO0057JJR652@l-daemon>

Hi John:

I will answer inline...

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

OK, bear with me since I am new to this unbound (but data aware) form
business.

Forms have a recordset correct, just not bound to one.
Controls on each form are created manually and the named.  The corresponding
field is set how?  IOW how is the control made aware of the data that it is
unbound to.  Do you (currently) use classes for this at all?  

>
I do not use classes to do this but should... It definitely leads itself
toward a class. I am/have doing classes but they are in VB and subsequently
VB.Net. The fields are filled from the recordset like: 

With rsCardList
 If .BOF = False And .EOF = False Then
  txtNameonCard = ![Name] 
 end if
End With

..or...

Here is a very simplified version of filling the Form fields from memory.
The recordset fields have to precisely match the form layout for this to
work but position of the fields  
...
For i = 0 to frm.Controls.Count
 With MyRecordset
  Frm.Controls(i) = .Fields(i)
 End With
Next i
...

.. and a while loop if a subform
<

Off the top of my head, I see a need to load a class instance for each
control, which will hold the field name that the control loads data from and
writes changes back to.  A "dirty" variable to indicate that the control
(data) has been modified.  The form class then has a control scanner that
loads a control instance for each control discovered on the form.  

>
It is not the form being 'bound' or 'unbound' that indicated whether a field
has been changed 'dirty' on a form but it is whether the field .text or
.value is different. To test whether form values have been changed you can
check the 'dirty' flag, monitor the validation event, compare the field
.text and .value info or compare the values against the recordset values.

Each combo box list values are collected first, used to populate the list
data and generally remain static until the user leaves the form or even the
application. If the list value are continually changing then they must be
managed like standard form fields.
<

The form init will init the form class, then go back and initialize each
control with the field name that it is unbound to.  The form class knows how
to read data and then iterates the control classes pushing in data values to
the control class, which in turn pushes the value in to the control.  Or the
control class just uses the control as the structure that holds the data
value.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but unbound controls don't manipulate the
OldValue property the way that bound controls do, correct?  

>
Actually they do; see above...
<

Thus the control
class needs to store the value into an OldVal variable in the control class.


What events work correctly with unbound forms and controls, and which events
do not fire or exhibit issues due to the unboundness?  IOW it seems that a
form BeforeUpdate / AfterUpdate etc simply wouldn't fire since there is no
bound recordset to monitor.  What about controls?  

>
As soon as a change is made to a form/record the data for the specific
recordset/form is re-acquired. The following assumes a text request though I
try to keep most of my calls done through queries or stored procedures. This
command attempts to lock out any other uses until the recordset is closed.
It works as if it was originating from a 'bound' form and really there is
only two lines of important code... the rest relates to the ADO data
methodology. Below is part of a snippet:

...
With objCmd
 .CommandType = adCmdText
 .CommandText = "select * from Company where recordID = " & Str(glbRecordID)
End With
    
Err.Clear
rsCompany.Open objCmd, , adOpenDynamic, adLockPessimistic
If Err.Number > 0 Then

 ...
 Handle the errors or warnings here
 ...
    
End If
...

Here is a site you can check over with more code and samples"
http://support.sas.com/rnd/eai/oledb/rr_locking.htm   
<

Is there any documentation anywhere that discusses the event differences
between bound and unbound forms and controls?  My bound object classes sink
the events for the object that they represent and can (and do) run code in
those events.  I need to know the differences between bound object events
and unbound object events.

I actually have a tiny little form (8 controls or so) that I need to take
unbound to eliminate locking issues that I simply cannot resolve with the
bound version.

>
Hope this helps...Jim
<

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

The methods I have used were designed about eight years ago and have
copied/improved again and again. Here are the basics and a step by step
methodology:
1. I always use ADO-OLE. (One exception is MySQL... a bit of a pain. If
someone could figure out a method that would not require a station by
station visit to install the MySQL ODBC drivers I would be for ever
indebted.)
2. The forms and subforms are populated as the user moves through the
records and but until the user actually changes field content on a form or
attempts to delete the current record, the recordset used to feed the form
is static. 3. a) A record or group of records in the case of a subform being
displayed, are first pulled into a recordset, and content are then used to
populate the form collection. In theory the record exists in three places.  
b) If there is a change of deletion request the recordset is locked by
creating a dynamic recordset with record-lock attribute.
c) If an 'already locked' error occurs when this lock is being applied then
the user is informed of the condition and given the appropriate options.
d) When using a 'real' :-) SQL DB (MS SQL/Oracle etc.) much of the record
handling is managed internally as soon as the 'BeginTrans' is applied and
closed or resolved when the 'CommitTrans' or 'RollbackTrans' runs.

It may initially seem a little complex but it gives a full range of options
for managing the data and it allows the client to build large databases with
many users and only requires the purchase a few licenses/seats. (ie. 20
licenses and 100 users.)      

Using ADO makes is easy to switch or attach different data sources with
little effort. (In theory one line of code.) Even web applications can be
created leveraging the same methods. That is not totally true but given that
SQL versions are standardizing coupled with the use of Store
Procedures/Queries, with passing parameters, very few changes are needed. I
am still pacing around the XML pool but believe in the long run that is
where to go.

So there is the 'thumb-nail' sketch of the 'non-bounder' application
implementation methodology.

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 4:35 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

Jim,

My framework (the part that had to do with forms and controls) was indeed
aimed at bound forms.  However the concept works for unbound forms as well.
Indeed it would be even more critical to use a framework as you the
developer are doing so much of the work that Access was doing for you -
loading all of the data into the controls, checking for updates to the data
by other people before you wrote changes back to the table, writing the data
back from controls into fields in the tables, stuff like that.  All of that
code would be framework material.  Once written and stored in the framework,
the doing of it would be automatic by the framework.

If you are one of the unholy (unbounders) why don't you give a thumbnail
sketch of how you manage all of that work.  I will then brainstorm how I
would look at doing it in a framework.  Remember that the concept of a
framework is to make it as automatic as possible.  For example (in a bound
form) I have a form class and I have a class for each control type.  The
form class runs a control scanner, gets the control type of each control,
loads a class instance for each control found.  Once this is done, the form
class and control classes can work together to do tasks.  

As an example, I can literally just drop a pair of controls on the form, a
text box named RecID that exposes (is bound to) the PK (always an
autonumber) and an unbound combo called RecSel.  The names are specific and
if the control scanner finds this pair of controls it knows that a record
selector exists and runs the code.  The afterupdate of the combo by that
name calls a method of the parent form saying "move to recid XXXX".  The
column 0 of the combo is the PK of the record in the form so it knows the
PK.  The form's OnCurrent knows that it needs to keep the combo synced to
the displayed record in the form so it calls a method of the combo class
telling it to display the data relevant to the current record in the form.
Thus the form, the combo and a text box all work as a system to form a
record selector.  If the developer drops these two controls on the form he
"just has" a record selector.  Nothing else is required - other than binding
RecSel to the PK field and setting the combo's query to display the data and
get the PK of the records in the table.

As an unbounder, you need to think about how to achieve this kind of
"automaticness" in the things you do.  Naturally some tasks do require
feeding data into init() methods of classes to set the classes up to do
their job.  After that though the "systems" need to just work together. Load
the data into the unbound form / controls.  Store flags in each control's
class saying that control's data was modified.  Scan for all controls with
modified data and update the underlying data in the record. Check for data
changes in the data you are about to update and inform the user that another
user edited the record since you loaded the data.  Etc.

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

Save a copy for me. It sounds like a good read...but I guess it only works
with bound forms.(?)

Jim 



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jul 15 12:44:55 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:44:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC1F@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <001701c58964$e9b9a5c0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

The "correct" way to handle this is to have a query that shows ALL records
(UNFILTERED) and another that shows FILTERED records.  In OnEnter, change
the query to the FILTERED query, in OnExit change the query to the
UNFILTERED query.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the combo
box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Jul 15 13:00:49 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:00:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03629CF6@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

I'm not sure what that would do?  
Karen wants the combo box to show FILTERED records unless the user wants
to see UNFILTERED records. I agree that a SQL statement would be able to
give the data she wants.  On the after update event of a button
somewhere on the form; change the Row Source of the combo box with an
appropriate SQL statement.  Changing the Caption of the Button from
"All" to "Open Only" would help the user and indicate which SQL
statement was used. Then refresh the form.
HTH
Jim

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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

The "correct" way to handle this is to have a query that shows ALL
records
(UNFILTERED) and another that shows FILTERED records.  In OnEnter,
change the query to the FILTERED query, in OnExit change the query to
the UNFILTERED query.

John W. Colby
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Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the
combo box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Fri Jul 15 13:13:23 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:13:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
In-Reply-To: <001701c58964$e9b9a5c0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000201c58968$e48172a0$2f01a8c0@dorismanning>

How is that the "correct" way?  The OnEnter event occurs when the control
receives focus and the OnExit event occurs when the control loses focus.

You suggested solution would have records always UNFILTERED with no way to
FILTER them because as soon as the user leaves the combo to do something to
a filtered record, the records would unfilter again.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

The "correct" way to handle this is to have a query that shows ALL records
(UNFILTERED) and another that shows FILTERED records.  In OnEnter, change
the query to the FILTERED query, in OnExit change the query to the
UNFILTERED query.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the combo
box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jul 15 13:15:18 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:15:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03629CF6@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <001801c58969$2853d040$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

If this is a bound form, then if you filter the combo but don't filter the
records underneath the form, any records where the FK in the underlying
record is missing from the combo will show a blank in the combo.  That is
what the solution I gave is designed to address.  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I'm not sure what that would do?  
Karen wants the combo box to show FILTERED records unless the user wants to
see UNFILTERED records. I agree that a SQL statement would be able to give
the data she wants.  On the after update event of a button somewhere on the
form; change the Row Source of the combo box with an appropriate SQL
statement.  Changing the Caption of the Button from "All" to "Open Only"
would help the user and indicate which SQL statement was used. Then refresh
the form. HTH Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

The "correct" way to handle this is to have a query that shows ALL records
(UNFILTERED) and another that shows FILTERED records.  In OnEnter, change
the query to the FILTERED query, in OnExit change the query to the
UNFILTERED query.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the combo
box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Jul 15 13:16:36 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:16:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC25@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

What is the code?  After update, me.combobox.recordsource= blaah blaah?
I am looking for the syntax.   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

How is that the "correct" way?  The OnEnter event occurs when the
control receives focus and the OnExit event occurs when the control
loses focus.

You suggested solution would have records always UNFILTERED with no way
to FILTER them because as soon as the user leaves the combo to do
something to a filtered record, the records would unfilter again.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

The "correct" way to handle this is to have a query that shows ALL
records
(UNFILTERED) and another that shows FILTERED records.  In OnEnter,
change the query to the FILTERED query, in OnExit change the query to
the UNFILTERED query.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the
combo box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Jul 15 13:20:46 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:20:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC27@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

It is not bound.  The first unbound combo box has the user select a
test.  There are around 400 tests.  Once the test is selected, the
second combo box stores the projects on which the selected test has
occurred.  At any given time, a test might be outstanding on four or
five projects.  But, since the beginning of time, that test may have
been on seven hundred projects.  Normally the user only needs to see
those projects that are open.  But the PIA wants to see all on occassion
so I just wanted to put a little button to change the datasource of the
project box to show all of them.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

If this is a bound form, then if you filter the combo but don't filter
the records underneath the form, any records where the FK in the
underlying record is missing from the combo will show a blank in the
combo.  That is what the solution I gave is designed to address.  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I'm not sure what that would do?  
Karen wants the combo box to show FILTERED records unless the user wants
to see UNFILTERED records. I agree that a SQL statement would be able to
give the data she wants.  On the after update event of a button
somewhere on the form; change the Row Source of the combo box with an
appropriate SQL statement.  Changing the Caption of the Button from
"All" to "Open Only"
would help the user and indicate which SQL statement was used. Then
refresh the form. HTH Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

The "correct" way to handle this is to have a query that shows ALL
records
(UNFILTERED) and another that shows FILTERED records.  In OnEnter,
change the query to the FILTERED query, in OnExit change the query to
the UNFILTERED query.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the
combo box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jul 15 13:34:02 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:34:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
In-Reply-To: <000201c58968$e48172a0$2f01a8c0@dorismanning>
Message-ID: <001a01c5896b$c9039b90$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

My solution is designed to display ALL records from the table filling the
combo when the combo does NOT have the focus.  This allows the combo to
display any of it's valid values when the form is just being browsed.  If
the combo is going to be used to SELECT filtered records from the table
filling the combo, then the query is changed as the user clicks into the
combo.  The user can now ONLY SELECT filtered records from the combo's
table.

It sounds like that is what she wanted.  If you filter the combo to only
display open projects, but the form displays ALL projects, then as the user
browses the records, the records with CLOSED projects will display a blank
in the combo.  The combo MUST DISPLAY ALL possible choices when JUST
BROWSING, but filter down to only allow OPEN projects when adding new
records.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


How is that the "correct" way?  The OnEnter event occurs when the control
receives focus and the OnExit event occurs when the control loses focus.

You suggested solution would have records always UNFILTERED with no way to
FILTER them because as soon as the user leaves the combo to do something to
a filtered record, the records would unfilter again.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

The "correct" way to handle this is to have a query that shows ALL records
(UNFILTERED) and another that shows FILTERED records.  In OnEnter, change
the query to the FILTERED query, in OnExit change the query to the
UNFILTERED query.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the combo
box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 15 13:39:15 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:39:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B1B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F30288EFC102E444080E7379AD00@phx.gbl>

Wow!  This application that I am referring to is being sold right now across 
the country.  The even have a Quickbooks add-in.  The company that developed 
it is growing like crazy.  Maybe it's time to make an Access version!  Thank 
you for your opinions!



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From john at winhaven.net  Fri Jul 15 13:44:50 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:44:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC1F@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <200507151844.j6FIixPi298550@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

Karen,
I have an A97 app where I had to allow for (eventually) 9 different filters
in a list box. It started out with less choices and they kept growing so
building it this way made it very flexible.

I needed to keep the app small so I did it using SQL statements (This was
back when floppies were still the removable media of choice). The UI is a
frame with 9 buttons. The default recordset and each button calls a
subroutine that sets the recordset using a case statement. I've condensed it
below:

Private Sub ChooseList()

Dim strListSelectSQL As String
Dim strListWhereSQL As String
Dim strListOrderSQL As String
Dim strListFullSQL As String

DoCmd.Hourglass True
strListSelectSQL = "SELECT [sql select statement] "

Select Case fraListChoices
	Case 1:
		strListWhereSQL = "WHERE [sql order statement] "
		strListOrderSQL = " ORDER BY [sql order statement];"
	Case 2:
		strListWhereSQL = " "WHERE [sql order statement] "
		strListOrderSQL = " ORDER BY [sql order statement];"
	Case Else:
		strListWhereSQL = " "WHERE [sql order statement] "
		strListOrderSQL = " ORDER BY [sql order statement];"

End Select

strListFullSQL = strListSelectSQL & strListWhereSQL & strListOrderSQL
Me.lstList.RowSource = strListFullSQL   
Call SetListMess 'if no record tell user
End Sub

You could do the same thing with queries set with different filters if the
resulting bloat didn't matter.

HTH
John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the combo
box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 15 13:47:21 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:47:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC27@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F34A013D16BA86CB00DC79E9AD00@phx.gbl>

Karen,

Why don't you just show the unfiltered records on the OnDoubleClick event 
and show the filtered records all other times?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Jul 15 13:50:14 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:50:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC2C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

That is it.  Thank you so much.  Happy Friday! 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

Karen,
I have an A97 app where I had to allow for (eventually) 9 different
filters in a list box. It started out with less choices and they kept
growing so building it this way made it very flexible.

I needed to keep the app small so I did it using SQL statements (This
was back when floppies were still the removable media of choice). The UI
is a frame with 9 buttons. The default recordset and each button calls a
subroutine that sets the recordset using a case statement. I've
condensed it
below:

Private Sub ChooseList()

Dim strListSelectSQL As String
Dim strListWhereSQL As String
Dim strListOrderSQL As String
Dim strListFullSQL As String

DoCmd.Hourglass True
strListSelectSQL = "SELECT [sql select statement] "

Select Case fraListChoices
	Case 1:
		strListWhereSQL = "WHERE [sql order statement] "
		strListOrderSQL = " ORDER BY [sql order statement];"
	Case 2:
		strListWhereSQL = " "WHERE [sql order statement] "
		strListOrderSQL = " ORDER BY [sql order statement];"
	Case Else:
		strListWhereSQL = " "WHERE [sql order statement] "
		strListOrderSQL = " ORDER BY [sql order statement];"

End Select

strListFullSQL = strListSelectSQL & strListWhereSQL & strListOrderSQL
Me.lstList.RowSource = strListFullSQL   
Call SetListMess 'if no record tell user End Sub

You could do the same thing with queries set with different filters if
the resulting bloat didn't matter.

HTH
John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the
combo box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jul 15 17:56:47 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:56:47 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <001101c5894a$e3ac9210$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <42D7E5FD.25420.429C3F0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42D8CBCF.28262.7AB81A7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 15 Jul 2005 at 10:38, John W. Colby wrote:

> That's what I thought.  In cases like this it is useful to be able to get at
> the physical layer.  DAO is occasionally still useful.
> 

Ocassionally?  

If you are working with Jet(using Access as your data store) I don't know a 
single advantage of ADO over DAO.  I do know several advantages  DAO has 
over ADO.

I use ADO in VB regularly, but every time I create a new Access 
application, the first thing I do is remove the ADO reference and replace 
it with a reference to DAO :-) 

-- 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jul 15 18:21:19 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:21:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B1B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <42D8D18F.21693.7C1F891@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 15 Jul 2005 at 8:56, Charlotte Foust wrote:

> You can create some incredibly BAD applicatons in File Maker, how bad
> depends on the version. :-<
> 
> There is very little distinction in FileMaker between the GUI and the
> data structures and only the latest version actually keeps all the
> tables and "relationships" in a single file instead of separate files.
> I'm not sure there ARE any "standard" occurrences in FileMaker, but you
> can download a 30-day free trial of the latest version and play with it
> to see how it behaves.  It is enough to make any Access developer fall
> to their knees in gratitude that they don't have to use FileMaker!
> 

See:
http://advisorforums.com/dFileMaker001.nsf/0/28b623cbbee234d193b008918e2948b
8?OpenDocument

A bit old:
http://www.techsoup.org/howto/articlepage.cfm?ArticleId=207&topicid=6


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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jul 15 18:22:55 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:22:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <42D8CBCF.28262.7AB81A7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200507152322.j6FNMsR17848@databaseadvisors.com>

We take exactly opposite approaches there, Stuart. First thing I do is look
for the DAO references and immediately start transforming them to ADO +
ADOX. I started out with DAO since there was no alternative, and then I
switched because that was the best way to talk to SQL... and once I got
there I would _never_ go back.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: July 15, 2005 6:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties

On 15 Jul 2005 at 10:38, John W. Colby wrote:

> That's what I thought.  In cases like this it is useful to be able to get
at
> the physical layer.  DAO is occasionally still useful.
> 

Ocassionally?  

If you are working with Jet(using Access as your data store) I don't know a 
single advantage of ADO over DAO.  I do know several advantages  DAO has 
over ADO.

I use ADO in VB regularly, but every time I create a new Access 
application, the first thing I do is remove the ADO reference and replace 
it with a reference to DAO :-) 

Not to say that I am right, but merely that I am 100 times more comfortable
in ADO + ADOX than in DAO. It just makes more sense to me, plus it works
lots better with ADP + SQL apps.

A.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jul 16 00:12:20 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:12:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <42D8CBCF.28262.7AB81A7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <0IJP001EVFSG85@l-daemon>

Hi Stuart:

I must say that agree with Arthur on this approach. The ADO connection layer
allows so much flexibility when writing Access applications. Most of my
clients initially started out with small applications but as they grew they
always moved to a MS SQL or Oracle backend. If I had written the program in
DAO it would have been a huge and expensive re-write.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 3:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties

On 15 Jul 2005 at 10:38, John W. Colby wrote:

> That's what I thought.  In cases like this it is useful to be able to get
at
> the physical layer.  DAO is occasionally still useful.
> 

Ocassionally?  

If you are working with Jet(using Access as your data store) I don't know a 
single advantage of ADO over DAO.  I do know several advantages  DAO has 
over ADO.

I use ADO in VB regularly, but every time I create a new Access 
application, the first thing I do is remove the ADO reference and replace 
it with a reference to DAO :-) 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Jul 16 01:17:39 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:17:39 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <0IJP001EVFSG85@l-daemon>
References: <42D8CBCF.28262.7AB81A7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42D93323.3667.93F2244@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 15 Jul 2005 at 22:12, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Stuart:
> 
> I must say that agree with Arthur on this approach. The ADO connection layer
> allows so much flexibility when writing Access applications. Most of my
> clients initially started out with small applications but as they grew they
> always moved to a MS SQL or Oracle backend. If I had written the program in
> DAO it would have been a huge and expensive re-write.
> 

You can still use DAO with SQL Server or Oracle. Just link to the backend 
using an ODBC SQL driver.

-- 
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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jul 16 07:51:23 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:51:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <42D93323.3667.93F2244@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200507161251.j6GCpSR08661@databaseadvisors.com>

Well, with Oracle you have a point, but with MS-SQL, why on earth use ODBC
when you can use an ADP project instead. Does not compute... save and except
that you might need to support both platforms.

But aside from all that, I simply found ADO to be much more understandable
and intuitive than DAO.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: July 16, 2005 2:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties

On 15 Jul 2005 at 22:12, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Stuart:
> 
> I must say that agree with Arthur on this approach. The ADO connection
layer
> allows so much flexibility when writing Access applications. Most of my
> clients initially started out with small applications but as they grew
they
> always moved to a MS SQL or Oracle backend. If I had written the program
in
> DAO it would have been a huge and expensive re-write.
> 

You can still use DAO with SQL Server or Oracle. Just link to the backend 
using an ODBC SQL driver.

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Jul 16 08:52:34 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:52:34 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access
Message-ID: <s2d92d4a.089@cactus.dk>

Hi Julie

What is this app doing?

/gustav

>>> prosoft6 at hotmail.com 07/15 8:39 pm >>>
Wow!  This application that I am referring to is being sold right now
across 
the country.  The even have a Quickbooks add-in.  The company that
developed 
it is growing like crazy.  Maybe it's time to make an Access version! 
Thank 
you for your opinions!



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jul 16 13:17:39 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:17:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <42D93323.3667.93F2244@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <0IJQ00IKNG5D2N@l-daemon>

Hi Stuart:

If you have a number of computers users, many far-flung, from you how do you
make sure that the operators have the specific ODBC driver setup and
installed? It traditionally takes a manual installation to set up the
Oracle/SQL drivers. With ADO these drivers are automatically installed on
every computer.

ADO drivers are significantly faster any ODBC driver. Case in point; given a
client using an Oracle ODBC driver to connect from their Access application
to their data. A simple query could take upwards 5 minutes to process
(Especially if it required returning a large amount of data...like a
report). Abandoning the ODBC driver for an ADO-OLE configuration reduced the
process time to less than a minute. 

The only place where DAO shows superior performance to ADO is when it is
connecting to an MDB database but even then it is not a major difference.  

The only time I use the default DAO drivers is when I am trying to
boiler-plate a quickie for a client or a service call on an existing system.
I have not built a major application on the DAO data tier since 1998 so I
apologies for being very prejudice. 

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties

On 15 Jul 2005 at 22:12, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Stuart:
> 
> I must say that agree with Arthur on this approach. The ADO connection
layer
> allows so much flexibility when writing Access applications. Most of my
> clients initially started out with small applications but as they grew
they
> always moved to a MS SQL or Oracle backend. If I had written the program
in
> DAO it would have been a huge and expensive re-write.
> 

You can still use DAO with SQL Server or Oracle. Just link to the backend 
using an ODBC SQL driver.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jul 16 13:24:03 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:24:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <200507161251.j6GCpSR08661@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <0IJQ00K0XGG1LT@l-daemon>

Hi Arthur:

You have touched on one area where I have no knowledge...trying to connect a
MySQL database without an ODBC driver or designing an ADP project for that
matter. (I guess I should be reading your book?)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 5:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties

Well, with Oracle you have a point, but with MS-SQL, why on earth use ODBC
when you can use an ADP project instead. Does not compute... save and except
that you might need to support both platforms.

But aside from all that, I simply found ADO to be much more understandable
and intuitive than DAO.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: July 16, 2005 2:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties

On 15 Jul 2005 at 22:12, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Stuart:
> 
> I must say that agree with Arthur on this approach. The ADO connection
layer
> allows so much flexibility when writing Access applications. Most of my
> clients initially started out with small applications but as they grew
they
> always moved to a MS SQL or Oracle backend. If I had written the program
in
> DAO it would have been a huge and expensive re-write.
> 

You can still use DAO with SQL Server or Oracle. Just link to the backend 
using an ODBC SQL driver.

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Jul 16 18:45:19 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:45:19 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
Message-ID: <010801c58a60$6cc2b3c0$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Jul 16 20:26:23 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:26:23 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
In-Reply-To: <010801c58a60$6cc2b3c0$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42DA405F.16144.D5AC9D6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 16 Jul 2005 at 16:45, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

> Dear List:
> 
> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without the standard access
> background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as it were.  The forms have no max, min, and
> close buttons and no menu or tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
> 

See http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0019.htm

-- 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Jul 16 23:50:10 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:50:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
References: <42DA405F.16144.D5AC9D6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <018301c58a8b$02f19080$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Hey Stuart, that looks like it!  Thank you.

Regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> On 16 Jul 2005 at 16:45, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without 
>> the standard access
>> background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as it were.  The forms 
>> have no max, min, and
>> close buttons and no menu or tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any 
>> way to do this?
>>
>
> See http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0019.htm
>
> -- 
> Stuart
>
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Jul 17 05:28:28 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:28:28 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
Message-ID: <s2da4efd.099@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
confusing.
Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely. 
I modified it slightly:

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function fAccessWindow( _
  Optional Procedure As String, _
  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
  As Boolean

  Dim lngState    As Long
  Dim lngReturn   As Long
  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
  
  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp

  If SwitchStatus = False Then
    Select Case Procedure
      Case "Hide"
        lngState = SW_HIDE
      Case "Show", "Normal"
        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
      Case "Minimize"
        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
      Case "Maximize"
        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
      Case Else
        lngState = -1
    End Select
  Else
    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
      lngState = SW_HIDE
    Else
      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
    End If
  End If
  
  If lngState >= 0 Then
    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
  End If

  If StatusCheck = True Then
    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
      booVisible = True
    End If
  End If
  
  fAccessWindow = booVisible

End Function

Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.

/gustav

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
Dear List:

I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without
the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as
it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or
tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com 
858-259-4334



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Jul 17 09:32:34 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 07:32:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
References: <s2da4efd.099@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <005501c58adc$5fa9f820$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Gustav:

This:

"Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden."

is going to be a deal breaker, I think.  I suppose I could "reappear" it for 
the reports, but I wonder if that will look awkward.  I'll test and see.


Thanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> Hi Rocky
>
> I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
> complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
> confusing.
> Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely.
> I modified it slightly:
>
> Option Compare Database
> Option Explicit
>
> Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
> Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3
>
> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
>  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Public Function fAccessWindow( _
>  Optional Procedure As String, _
>  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
>  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
>  As Boolean
>
>  Dim lngState    As Long
>  Dim lngReturn   As Long
>  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
>
>  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp
>
>  If SwitchStatus = False Then
>    Select Case Procedure
>      Case "Hide"
>        lngState = SW_HIDE
>      Case "Show", "Normal"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>      Case "Minimize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>      Case "Maximize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>      Case Else
>        lngState = -1
>    End Select
>  Else
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      lngState = SW_HIDE
>    Else
>      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  If lngState >= 0 Then
>    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
>  End If
>
>  If StatusCheck = True Then
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      booVisible = True
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  fAccessWindow = booVisible
>
> End Function
>
> Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
> Dear List:
>
> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without
> the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as
> it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or
> tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
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From Johncliviger at aol.com  Mon Jul 18 06:33:03 2005
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:33:03 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] Finding a record in a subform
Message-ID: <1da.401b6dad.300ced6f@aol.com>

Hi all
This must so easy but my brains are not in gear. I have a form with a  
subform (both in form view) and with  one-to-many relationship. How do I  find a 
particular record in the subform in? 
 
TIA
 
johnc


From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Mon Jul 18 06:49:29 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:19:29 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
References: <s2da4efd.099@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <004d01c58b8e$e0552320$2b1865cb@winxp>

Rocky,

    My sample db named AppointmentsAlert might also be of interest to you. It is available at Rogers Access Library (other developers library). Link - http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com

    It demonstrates a form (without Access background window) to pop-up on the desktop, providing an audio-visual alert for imminent scheduled appointments (if any). The form materializes on top of other applications that might be in use.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 15:58
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


  Hi Rocky

  I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite confusing.
  Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely. 
  I modified it slightly:

  Option Compare Database
  Option Explicit

  Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
  Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
  Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
  Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3

  Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
    ByVal hwnd As Long) _
    As Long

  Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
    ByVal hwnd As Long, _
    ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
    As Long

  Public Function fAccessWindow( _
    Optional Procedure As String, _
    Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
    Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
    As Boolean

    Dim lngState    As Long
    Dim lngReturn   As Long
    Dim booVisible  As Boolean
    
    MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp

    If SwitchStatus = False Then
      Select Case Procedure
        Case "Hide"
          lngState = SW_HIDE
        Case "Show", "Normal"
          lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
        Case "Minimize"
          lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
        Case "Maximize"
          lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
        Case Else
          lngState = -1
      End Select
    Else
      If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
        lngState = SW_HIDE
      Else
        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
      End If
    End If
    
    If lngState >= 0 Then
      lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
    End If

    If StatusCheck = True Then
      If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
        booVisible = True
      End If
    End If
    
    fAccessWindow = booVisible

  End Function

  Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.

  /gustav

  >>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
  Dear List:

  I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?

  MTIA,

  Rocky Smolin
  Beach Access Software
  http://www.e-z-mrp.com 
  858-259-4334


From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 18 08:18:44 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:18:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access
In-Reply-To: <s2d92d4a.089@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F1922CA555552BD07FF91A99AD50@phx.gbl>

It is a public housing application to trac tenants.



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 18 08:46:24 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:46:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <0IJQ00IKNG5D2N@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F2201C07BBFB91A9207B9189AD50@phx.gbl>

Jim,

That is all very good information.  I am currently working on a DAO project 
and was worried about the references.  Are you saying that if I install ADO 
all of the references appear automatically?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 18 09:05:17 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:05:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
In-Reply-To: <010801c58a60$6cc2b3c0$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <0IJT00K1PTSRR2@l-daemon>

Hi Rocky:

Check out one of the items in the last DBA news letters. It is an article
from Darren Dick on using FTP in access but one of the programs features was
that it removed the background Access frame. See:
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newsletters/newsletter200503/0503howtocreate
anftpclientwithinaccess/howtocreateanftpclientwithinaccess.htm

Definitely watch for wrap
Jim  

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Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:45 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background

Dear List:

I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without the
standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as it
were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or tool
bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Jul 18 09:18:17 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:18:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D9BE@main2.marlow.com>

Also Rocky, in Access 97, you only need the forms to have the Popup property
set to True.  In A2k and up, you need to set the Modal property to true
also, unless you use slightly different code.

Drew

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From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


Gustav:

This:

"Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden."

is going to be a deal breaker, I think.  I suppose I could "reappear" it for

the reports, but I wonder if that will look awkward.  I'll test and see.


Thanks and regards,

Rocky

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From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> Hi Rocky
>
> I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
> complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
> confusing.
> Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely.
> I modified it slightly:
>
> Option Compare Database
> Option Explicit
>
> Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
> Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3
>
> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
>  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Public Function fAccessWindow( _
>  Optional Procedure As String, _
>  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
>  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
>  As Boolean
>
>  Dim lngState    As Long
>  Dim lngReturn   As Long
>  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
>
>  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp
>
>  If SwitchStatus = False Then
>    Select Case Procedure
>      Case "Hide"
>        lngState = SW_HIDE
>      Case "Show", "Normal"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>      Case "Minimize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>      Case "Maximize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>      Case Else
>        lngState = -1
>    End Select
>  Else
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      lngState = SW_HIDE
>    Else
>      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  If lngState >= 0 Then
>    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
>  End If
>
>  If StatusCheck = True Then
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      booVisible = True
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  fAccessWindow = booVisible
>
> End Function
>
> Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
> Dear List:
>
> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without
> the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as
> it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or
> tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 18 09:27:34 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:27:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F2201C07BBFB91A9207B9189AD50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0IJT00J8HUTWN0@l-daemon>

Hi Julie:

No, all references do not appear automatically but all Windows computers
from 98 on have a version of ADO stored in their common file area and once a
reference to that is established it will be virtually guaranteed regardless
of the computer. To check it out, view Program Files/Common
Files/System/ADO, on any Windows computer. If you are using some of the more
recent features of ADO versions, like streaming (great for embedded
pictures) an update may be required. For the latest version check out
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=6C050FE3-C795-4B7D-
B037-185D0506396C&displaylang=en

HTH
Jim  

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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 6:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties

Jim,

That is all very good information.  I am currently working on a DAO project 
and was worried about the references.  Are you saying that if I install ADO 
all of the references appear automatically?



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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Jul 18 09:30:01 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:30:01 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Finding a record in a subform
Message-ID: <20050718142957.E25262512AC@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi John
When you say find a record in the subform are we talking about positioing
the user there? If so how about something along the lines of (not tested):

Dim rst as Recordset

set rst=Me!subThingy.Form.RecordsetClone

rst.FindFirst etc

If Not rst.NoMatch Then
Me!subThingy.Form.Bookmark=rst.Bookmark
End If

rst.Close
Set rst=Nothing

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Subject: [AccessD] Finding a record in a subform
Date: 18/07/05 11:34


Hi all
This must so easy but my brains are not in gear. I have a form with a
subform (both in form view) and with one-to-many relationship. How do I find
a
particular record in the subform in?

TIA

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From Johncliviger at aol.com  Mon Jul 18 09:58:34 2005
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:58:34 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] Finding a record in a subform
Message-ID: <12f.614fc445.300d1d9a@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 18/07/2005 15:36:01 GMT Daylight Time,  
andy at minstersystems.co.uk writes:

set  rst=Me!subThingy.Form.RecordsetClone


Hi Andy
 
Thank you for the comments. At the Form level I have the following code and  
it works just fine. 
 
Private Sub FindDealership(varDealership As Variant)
Dim LV As Variant

Dim rec As  DAO.Recordset
Dim strBookmark As  String
On Error Resume Next
LV =  Trim(varDealership)
If IsNull(varDealership)  Then
MsgBox "No Record Found",  vbInformation, "Error!"
Exit  Sub
End  If

Forms!frmOutlets.SetFocus

DoCmd.GoToControl  Forms!frmOutlets!txtName.Name

Set  rec =  Forms!frmOutlets.RecordsetClone

rec.FindFirst "[supplierID] = " & CLng(LV) ' & """"
 
    If Not rec.NoMatch  Then
strBookmark =  rec.Bookmark
Forms!frmOutlets.Bookmark = strBookmark
End If
 
    DoCmd.GoToControl  Forms!frmOutlets!txtName.Name
DoCmd.Close A_FORM,  "fdlgFind"
rec.Close

End Sub
 
 
I've since found that the line that is failing is .. I can't get it to  focus 
on the subform where the recordset 
 
 Forms![frmOutlets]![frm_Rejection]!Form.SetFocus
 
The subform frm_Rejection is both Form name and the local Name. I changed  
that but no change.
 
So...


From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 18 09:59:53 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:59:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB
	E-book
In-Reply-To: <42D549F7.8090307@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F24229E955FAA4680C5108E9AD50@phx.gbl>

I'd like both of you to sign up for one of these free courses before the 90 
days runs out, specifically, Visual Studio.



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 18 10:01:00 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:01:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VBE-book
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F24229E955FAA4680C5108E9AD50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F25495D67C8F8132E2080429AD50@phx.gbl>

Sorry.  Wrong e-mail address!



Julie Reardon-Taylor
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Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Jul 18 10:32:17 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:32:17 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Finding a record in a subform
Message-ID: <20050718153214.547AB24F207@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

John

a)You've got a bang where you need a . in front of Form

and b) It looks to me as if you need to set focus to a specific control,
thus

Forms![frmOutlets]![frm_Rejection].Form!txtxyz.SetFocus


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To: "accessd at databaseadvisors.com" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Finding a record in a subform
Date: 18/07/05 14:59



In a message dated 18/07/2005 15:36:01 GMT Daylight Time,
andy at minstersystems.co.uk writes:

set rst=Me!subThingy.Form.RecordsetClone


Hi Andy

Thank you for the comments. At the Form level I have the following code and
it works just fine.

Private Sub FindDealership(varDealership As Variant)
Dim LV As Variant

Dim rec As DAO.Recordset
Dim strBookmark As String
On Error Resume Next
LV = Trim(varDealership)
If IsNull(varDealership) Then
MsgBox "No Record Found", vbInformation, "Error!"
Exit Sub
End If

Forms!frmOutlets.SetFocus

DoCmd.GoToControl Forms!frmOutlets!txtName.Name

Set rec = Forms!frmOutlets.RecordsetClone

rec.FindFirst "[supplierID] = " & CLng(LV) ' & """"

If Not rec.NoMatch Then
strBookmark = rec.Bookmark
Forms!frmOutlets.Bookmark = strBookmark
End If

DoCmd.GoToControl Forms!frmOutlets!txtName.Name
DoCmd.Close A_FORM, "fdlgFind"
rec.Close

End Sub


I've since found that the line that is failing is .. I can't get it to focus
on the subform where the recordset

Forms![frmOutlets]![frm_Rejection]!Form.SetFocus

The subform frm_Rejection is both Form name and the local Name. I changed
that but no change.

So...
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Mon Jul 18 14:02:44 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:02:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3D2@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I need to create an application that can perform Material Requirements
Planning (MRP) generation.
I have done a lot of Google searching looking for programming examples with
no luck.

I don't want to recreate the wheel here if there are already some examples
that I could learn from.

Anyone know of how to achieve this or have any links that might point me in
the right direction?

Thanks,
JR




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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Jul 18 15:03:46 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:03:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3D2@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
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Have you checked with Rocky?
http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ 

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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples

Hi All,

I need to create an application that can perform Material Requirements
Planning (MRP) generation.
I have done a lot of Google searching looking for programming examples with
no luck.

I don't want to recreate the wheel here if there are already some examples
that I could learn from.

Anyone know of how to achieve this or have any links that might point me in
the right direction?

Thanks,
JR




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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Jul 18 15:10:25 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:10:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples
In-Reply-To: <2605777.1121713528462.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
Message-ID: <000c01c58bd4$bda6ccc0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Joe,

A member of this list develops a shrink-wrap product called E Z MRP, but I
don't know who it is.  You can find this on the internet.

Dan Waters

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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples

Hi All,

I need to create an application that can perform Material Requirements
Planning (MRP) generation.
I have done a lot of Google searching looking for programming examples with
no luck.

I don't want to recreate the wheel here if there are already some examples
that I could learn from.

Anyone know of how to achieve this or have any links that might point me in
the right direction?

Thanks,
JR




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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jul 18 16:07:49 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:07:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B20@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Yes, that first one pretty much sums it up. :->

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access


On 15 Jul 2005 at 8:56, Charlotte Foust wrote:

> You can create some incredibly BAD applicatons in File Maker, how bad 
> depends on the version. :-<
> 
> There is very little distinction in FileMaker between the GUI and the 
> data structures and only the latest version actually keeps all the 
> tables and "relationships" in a single file instead of separate files.

> I'm not sure there ARE any "standard" occurrences in FileMaker, but 
> you can download a 30-day free trial of the latest version and play 
> with it to see how it behaves.  It is enough to make any Access 
> developer fall to their knees in gratitude that they don't have to use

> FileMaker!
> 

See:
http://advisorforums.com/dFileMaker001.nsf/0/28b623cbbee234d193b008918e2
948b
8?OpenDocument

A bit old:
http://www.techsoup.org/howto/articlepage.cfm?ArticleId=207&topicid=6


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 18 16:10:12 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:10:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3D2@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFEEPIEBAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

JR,

  What is it that your looking of examples for? "MRP" covers a lot of
ground; BOM's, Routings, Time Phased Inventory, Purchasing, Quality control,
Scrap and Rejection, Capacity planning, etc.

Jim.

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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples


Hi All,

I need to create an application that can perform Material Requirements
Planning (MRP) generation.
I have done a lot of Google searching looking for programming examples with
no luck.

I don't want to recreate the wheel here if there are already some examples
that I could learn from.

Anyone know of how to achieve this or have any links that might point me in
the right direction?

Thanks,
JR




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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jul 18 16:12:59 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:12:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A603@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I can't agree with you, Stuart.  I've created split Access databases
with no linked tables using ADO.  DAO would have been useless for that.
DAO is primarily useful in dealing with the Jet engine structures and
peculiarities and is optimized for that purpose.  It tends to fall on
its face when dealing with anything else.  ADO is intended to handle
data access, regardless of datasource, and I prefer it because it is far
more powerful and flexible than DAO in data handling.  It all depends on
what you do with either one of them.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 3:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties


On 15 Jul 2005 at 10:38, John W. Colby wrote:

> That's what I thought.  In cases like this it is useful to be able to 
> get at the physical layer.  DAO is occasionally still useful.
> 

Ocassionally?  

If you are working with Jet(using Access as your data store) I don't
know a 
single advantage of ADO over DAO.  I do know several advantages  DAO has

over ADO.

I use ADO in VB regularly, but every time I create a new Access 
application, the first thing I do is remove the ADO reference and
replace 
it with a reference to DAO :-) 

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Tue Jul 19 07:09:06 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:09:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] How big can table get?
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EAF8EF@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

I have a table that I am going to be populating with data. I know the
field types and sizes. Is there a way to estimate the maximum number of
records the table can hold within the database?

 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Jul 19 07:25:30 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:25:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How big can table get?
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EAF8EF@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <000901c58c5c$f3c17930$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yes, with the exception of memo fields which can hold anywhere from 0 to 32K
bytes.  A definition of how many bytes are required for each data type is
available out there somewhere.  Just add them up.  An MDB container can
contain 2gbytes IIRC.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:09 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] How big can table get?


I have a table that I am going to be populating with data. I know the field
types and sizes. Is there a way to estimate the maximum number of records
the table can hold within the database?

 

Chester Kaup

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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Jul 19 07:29:30 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:29:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How big can table get?
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC4C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I think if you have to ask then you probably should consider the back
end being in SQL server. 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] How big can table get?

Yes, with the exception of memo fields which can hold anywhere from 0 to
32K bytes.  A definition of how many bytes are required for each data
type is available out there somewhere.  Just add them up.  An MDB
container can contain 2gbytes IIRC.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] How big can table get?


I have a table that I am going to be populating with data. I know the
field types and sizes. Is there a way to estimate the maximum number of
records the table can hold within the database?

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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From vrm at tim-cms.com  Tue Jul 19 08:10:37 2005
From: vrm at tim-cms.com (Marcel Vreuls)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:10:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC4C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <200507190907578.SM03480@MarcelPC>

Hi All,


I have been a freelance programmer for about 6 years now. I like the
"freedom" I have got and it helped me al lot. As I have been on and off this
list in the last few years and most of the time reading I thought just drop
the question perhaps someone can help me.

As I had some really heavy problems the last one and a half year I am think
of emigrating to another country (at this time I am living in the
netherlands). Mind you no illegal shit and so, but problems with ex-wife,
child protection, etc. As a father you always start 6-0 behind, have to make
it even and then get your advantage. I do not think this is any different in
other countries so that is not the main reason. The main reason is start all
over again.

Now I have some questions and I hope your experience can help me. I know I
cannot go to another country and go life there. There are all kind of rules
that apply but for this example, I meet those rules

- anyone any ideas how to get a (freelance) job in for example America,
Canada or Australia. Any suggestions, references, contacts, offers and help
are welcome. Here in Holland there are companies, sort of temp offices, who
offer jobs to freelancers where you have to register. Most companies never
do direct business with freelancers. It cost you about 10% of your our rate,
but it is the only way.
- What kind of insurance, taxes do I have to deal with as freelancer?
- How are the rates, salary??
- Any experience with school and after school-support for kids when you are
working??

About me. I am 32 year old, have 1 kid and am MCSE and  MCSD vb6, .NET
certified and about 10 years of hand-on IT experience


Thxs, again,

Marcel






From Johncliviger at aol.com  Tue Jul 19 09:18:08 2005
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:18:08 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] Finding a record in a subform
Message-ID: <42.6d5f83eb.300e65a0@aol.com>

Andy
 
It works fine now. Thanks. Just one character wrong and the whole job  stops! 
But that programming.
 
Johnc


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jul 19 09:43:11 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:43:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
References: <s2da4efd.099@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <001401c58c70$2feb9040$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Gustav:

There a line of code in there: 

"lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)"

but ShowWindow is undefined.  Is there a snip missing?

Regards,

Rocky


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> Hi Rocky
> 
> I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
> complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
> confusing.
> Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely. 
> I modified it slightly:
> 
> Option Compare Database
> Option Explicit
> 
> Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
> Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3
> 
> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
>  As Long
> 
> Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
>  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
>  As Long
> 
> Public Function fAccessWindow( _
>  Optional Procedure As String, _
>  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
>  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
>  As Boolean
> 
>  Dim lngState    As Long
>  Dim lngReturn   As Long
>  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
>  
>  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp
> 
>  If SwitchStatus = False Then
>    Select Case Procedure
>      Case "Hide"
>        lngState = SW_HIDE
>      Case "Show", "Normal"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>      Case "Minimize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>      Case "Maximize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>      Case Else
>        lngState = -1
>    End Select
>  Else
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      lngState = SW_HIDE
>    Else
>      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>    End If
>  End If
>  
>  If lngState >= 0 Then
>    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
>  End If
> 
>  If StatusCheck = True Then
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      booVisible = True
>    End If
>  End If
>  
>  fAccessWindow = booVisible
> 
> End Function
> 
> Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.
> 
> /gustav
> 
>>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
> Dear List:
> 
> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without
> the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as
> it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or
> tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
> 
> MTIA,
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com 
> 858-259-4334
> 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jul 19 09:59:21 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:59:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
References: <s2da4efd.099@cactus.dk> <001401c58c70$2feb9040$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <000a01c58c72$7285d120$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Never mind.  Changed it to apiShowWindwo and it worked.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> Gustav:
>
> There a line of code in there:
> "lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)"
>
> but ShowWindow is undefined.  Is there a snip missing?
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
>
>
>> Hi Rocky
>>
>> I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
>> complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
>> confusing.
>> Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely. I modified 
>> it slightly:
>>
>> Option Compare Database
>> Option Explicit
>>
>> Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
>> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
>> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
>> Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3
>>
>> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
>>  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
>>  As Long
>>
>> Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
>>  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
>>  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
>>  As Long
>>
>> Public Function fAccessWindow( _
>>  Optional Procedure As String, _
>>  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
>>  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
>>  As Boolean
>>
>>  Dim lngState    As Long
>>  Dim lngReturn   As Long
>>  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
>>  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp
>>
>>  If SwitchStatus = False Then
>>    Select Case Procedure
>>      Case "Hide"
>>        lngState = SW_HIDE
>>      Case "Show", "Normal"
>>        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>>      Case "Minimize"
>>        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>>      Case "Maximize"
>>        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>>      Case Else
>>        lngState = -1
>>    End Select
>>  Else
>>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>>      lngState = SW_HIDE
>>    Else
>>      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>>    End If
>>  End If
>>  If lngState >= 0 Then
>>    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
>>  End If
>>
>>  If StatusCheck = True Then
>>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>>      booVisible = True
>>    End If
>>  End If
>>  fAccessWindow = booVisible
>>
>> End Function
>>
>> Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without
>> the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as
>> it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or
>> tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
>>
>> MTIA,
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com 858-259-4334
>>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Jul 19 10:02:05 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:02:05 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
Message-ID: <s2dd3220.048@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

It's declared in the header, though as Private ...

/gustav

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/19 4:43 pm >>>
Gustav:

There a line of code in there: 

"lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)"

but ShowWindow is undefined.  Is there a snip missing?

Regards,

Rocky


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> Hi Rocky
> 
> I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
> complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
> confusing.
> Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely. 
> I modified it slightly:
> 
> Option Compare Database
> Option Explicit
> 
> Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
> Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3
> 
> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
>  As Long
> 
> Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
>  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
>  As Long
> 
> Public Function fAccessWindow( _
>  Optional Procedure As String, _
>  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
>  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
>  As Boolean
> 
>  Dim lngState    As Long
>  Dim lngReturn   As Long
>  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
>  
>  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp
> 
>  If SwitchStatus = False Then
>    Select Case Procedure
>      Case "Hide"
>        lngState = SW_HIDE
>      Case "Show", "Normal"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>      Case "Minimize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>      Case "Maximize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>      Case Else
>        lngState = -1
>    End Select
>  Else
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      lngState = SW_HIDE
>    Else
>      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>    End If
>  End If
>  
>  If lngState >= 0 Then
>    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
>  End If
> 
>  If StatusCheck = True Then
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      booVisible = True
>    End If
>  End If
>  
>  fAccessWindow = booVisible
> 
> End Function
> 
> Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.
> 
> /gustav
> 
>>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
> Dear List:
> 
> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear
without
> the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop
as
> it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu
or
> tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
> 
> MTIA,
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com 
> 858-259-4334



From DElam at jenkens.com  Tue Jul 19 11:40:44 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:40:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492CB35@natexch.jenkens.com>

I can't give any advice on other countries, but the US is tough to immigrate
to without employer sponsorship.  If you are determined to stay freelance,
register for the immigration lottery and cross your fingers.

Health insurance is probably a lot more than you would expect since the US
does not have subsidized health care.  As an immigrant, you will probably be
required to carry insurance too instead of relying on the free health care
that is provided for the indigent here.  Employers generally cover a large
portion of health care costs, but if you do not have that, you will need to
bill more to cover this.  A healthy person can generally expect to spend at
least $300/month (probably more) in insurance.  

For taxes, there is more paperwork, but it is not too bad as long as you
stay on top of it.  There are lots of websites for the self employed that
could get you started.

For one or two jobs, you could probably get a temporary work visa without
too much trouble.  This would be of limited assistance though, since once
the work is done, you are in an only slightly better position to be given
permanent residency.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcel Vreuls [mailto:vrm at tim-cms.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment


Hi All,


I have been a freelance programmer for about 6 years now. I like the
"freedom" I have got and it helped me al lot. As I have been on and off this
list in the last few years and most of the time reading I thought just drop
the question perhaps someone can help me.

As I had some really heavy problems the last one and a half year I am think
of emigrating to another country (at this time I am living in the
netherlands). Mind you no illegal shit and so, but problems with ex-wife,
child protection, etc. As a father you always start 6-0 behind, have to make
it even and then get your advantage. I do not think this is any different in
other countries so that is not the main reason. The main reason is start all
over again.

Now I have some questions and I hope your experience can help me. I know I
cannot go to another country and go life there. There are all kind of rules
that apply but for this example, I meet those rules

- anyone any ideas how to get a (freelance) job in for example America,
Canada or Australia. Any suggestions, references, contacts, offers and help
are welcome. Here in Holland there are companies, sort of temp offices, who
offer jobs to freelancers where you have to register. Most companies never
do direct business with freelancers. It cost you about 10% of your our rate,
but it is the only way.
- What kind of insurance, taxes do I have to deal with as freelancer?
- How are the rates, salary??
- Any experience with school and after school-support for kids when you are
working??

About me. I am 32 year old, have 1 kid and am MCSE and  MCSD vb6, .NET
certified and about 10 years of hand-on IT experience


Thxs, again,

Marcel




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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Jul 19 12:00:54 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:00:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3D5@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Determining requirements, really.
Assuming that I have all the underlying data, I need to figure out how to
generate a Make/Buy report looking at it by time periods.

I just talked to Rocky and using EZ-MRP maybe a solution...
I don't know what is involved in creating my own system so it is hard to
determine which way to go...

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 5:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples

JR,

  What is it that your looking of examples for? "MRP" covers a lot of
ground; BOM's, Routings, Time Phased Inventory, Purchasing, Quality control,
Scrap and Rejection, Capacity planning, etc.

Jim.

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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples


Hi All,

I need to create an application that can perform Material Requirements
Planning (MRP) generation.
I have done a lot of Google searching looking for programming examples with
no luck.

I don't want to recreate the wheel here if there are already some examples
that I could learn from.

Anyone know of how to achieve this or have any links that might point me in
the right direction?

Thanks,
JR




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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jul 19 12:48:39 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:48:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
In-Reply-To: <200507190907578.SM03480@MarcelPC>
Message-ID: <0IJV00JG7YT0W9@l-daemon>

Hi Marcel:

You certifications would put you in the top 6% of in-demand programmers,
especially with .Net credentials. (According to one survey I saw.) You would
have to immigrate if you wanted to easily get a job in either US or Canada
but I have no idea about Australia. There are working Visas in Canada and
Green Cards and H1B Visas in the US but you have to get a future 'local'
employer to sponsor you if your want to go that route. Not always easy if
there is a saturated market.

Immigration might be your best choice but you have to have specific
requirements and candidates are selected on a range of things from type of
expertise, age, money, degrees/certifications etc. In Canada, there is a
Federal immigration web site location that you can enter your stats. If you
qualifications add up to 75 points out of a possible 100, you're in. One
friend, who has a degree in Computer Science, married for 10 years, two
kids, owned house, an expert in Java and C++ took 15 days to be cleared into
Canada. On the other-hand another friend, with photography certifications,
took over 6 years to get accepted and it was not until he put a
qualification in an odd 'Multilith News Printer' type that he got the nod.

HTH
Jim        

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Marcel Vreuls
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment

Hi All,


I have been a freelance programmer for about 6 years now. I like the
"freedom" I have got and it helped me al lot. As I have been on and off this
list in the last few years and most of the time reading I thought just drop
the question perhaps someone can help me.

As I had some really heavy problems the last one and a half year I am think
of emigrating to another country (at this time I am living in the
netherlands). Mind you no illegal shit and so, but problems with ex-wife,
child protection, etc. As a father you always start 6-0 behind, have to make
it even and then get your advantage. I do not think this is any different in
other countries so that is not the main reason. The main reason is start all
over again.

Now I have some questions and I hope your experience can help me. I know I
cannot go to another country and go life there. There are all kind of rules
that apply but for this example, I meet those rules

- anyone any ideas how to get a (freelance) job in for example America,
Canada or Australia. Any suggestions, references, contacts, offers and help
are welcome. Here in Holland there are companies, sort of temp offices, who
offer jobs to freelancers where you have to register. Most companies never
do direct business with freelancers. It cost you about 10% of your our rate,
but it is the only way.
- What kind of insurance, taxes do I have to deal with as freelancer?
- How are the rates, salary??
- Any experience with school and after school-support for kids when you are
working??

About me. I am 32 year old, have 1 kid and am MCSE and  MCSD vb6, .NET
certified and about 10 years of hand-on IT experience


Thxs, again,

Marcel




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From darsant at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 13:15:30 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:15:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
In-Reply-To: <0IJV00JG7YT0W9@l-daemon>
References: <200507190907578.SM03480@MarcelPC> <0IJV00JG7YT0W9@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a05071911157d239483@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/19/05, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Marcel:
> 
> You certifications would put you in the top 6% of in-demand programmers,
> especially with .Net credentials. (According to one survey I saw.) You would
> have to immigrate if you wanted to easily get a job in either US or Canada
> but I have no idea about Australia. There are working Visas in Canada and
> Green Cards and H1B Visas in the US but you have to get a future 'local'
> employer to sponsor you if your want to go that route. Not always easy if
> there is a saturated market.
> 
> Immigration might be your best choice but you have to have specific
> requirements and candidates are selected on a range of things from type of
> expertise, age, money, degrees/certifications etc. In Canada, there is a
> Federal immigration web site location that you can enter your stats. If you
> qualifications add up to 75 points out of a possible 100, you're in. One
> friend, who has a degree in Computer Science, married for 10 years, two
> kids, owned house, an expert in Java and C++ took 15 days to be cleared into
> Canada. On the other-hand another friend, with photography certifications,
> took over 6 years to get accepted and it was not until he put a
> qualification in an odd 'Multilith News Printer' type that he got the nod.
> 
> HTH
> Jim
Took a loko at the test out of curiosity, and it seems like they
dropped the acceptance to 67, so it should be easier for you to get in
now.

-- 
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"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jul 19 13:25:10 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:25:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
In-Reply-To: <53c8e05a05071911157d239483@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0IJW0040M0HWWQ@l-daemon>

Totally OT:

I wonder how many Canadian could actually get back into the country once
their citizenship was removed if they had to take the test? What is your bet
30% more, less?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: work and employment

On 7/19/05, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Marcel:
> 
> You certifications would put you in the top 6% of in-demand programmers,
> especially with .Net credentials. (According to one survey I saw.) You
would
> have to immigrate if you wanted to easily get a job in either US or Canada
> but I have no idea about Australia. There are working Visas in Canada and
> Green Cards and H1B Visas in the US but you have to get a future 'local'
> employer to sponsor you if your want to go that route. Not always easy if
> there is a saturated market.
> 
> Immigration might be your best choice but you have to have specific
> requirements and candidates are selected on a range of things from type of
> expertise, age, money, degrees/certifications etc. In Canada, there is a
> Federal immigration web site location that you can enter your stats. If
you
> qualifications add up to 75 points out of a possible 100, you're in. One
> friend, who has a degree in Computer Science, married for 10 years, two
> kids, owned house, an expert in Java and C++ took 15 days to be cleared
into
> Canada. On the other-hand another friend, with photography certifications,
> took over 6 years to get accepted and it was not until he put a
> qualification in an odd 'Multilith News Printer' type that he got the nod.
> 
> HTH
> Jim
Took a loko at the test out of curiosity, and it seems like they
dropped the acceptance to 67, so it should be easier for you to get in
now.

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jul 19 13:41:34 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:41:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F13237ADD@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Umm... How do you mean 'once their citizenship was removed'? Or is this not
just 'Totally OT' but 'Totally hypothetical' as well? As far as I know you
can't have your citizenship 'removed'. Even in the case of becoming a
naturalized US citizen, where the oath requires you to renounce your
previous citizenship, it does not mean you are no longer a citizen of the
other country, you just say it to get the US passport. The other countries
treat it as a quaint ritual, but you still keep the original citizenship.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: work and employment


Totally OT:

I wonder how many Canadian could actually get back into the country once
their citizenship was removed if they had to take the test? What is your bet
30% more, less?

Jim


From mikedorism at verizon.net  Tue Jul 19 13:48:22 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:48:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F13237ADD@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <000201c58c92$70fefc80$2f01a8c0@dorismanning>

Please move this discussion to the OT list.

Doris Manning
AccessD Moderator

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: work and employment

Umm... How do you mean 'once their citizenship was removed'? Or is this not
just 'Totally OT' but 'Totally hypothetical' as well? As far as I know you
can't have your citizenship 'removed'. Even in the case of becoming a
naturalized US citizen, where the oath requires you to renounce your
previous citizenship, it does not mean you are no longer a citizen of the
other country, you just say it to get the US passport. The other countries
treat it as a quaint ritual, but you still keep the original citizenship.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: work and employment


Totally OT:

I wonder how many Canadian could actually get back into the country once
their citizenship was removed if they had to take the test? What is your bet
30% more, less?

Jim
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 19 17:57:53 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:57:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3D5@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFMEGNECAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Joe,

  I have BOM explosion logic that is SQL based and VBA based, which will
generate material requirements that can be time phased.  There are a bunch
of other things that then come into play; Planed orders, demand time fences,
fixed and/or variable lead times, safety stock, minimum order qty, economic
order qty, independent demands, etc

 I can recommend a DB design that has worked well for me over the years.

 But it's a lot of work and a major undertaking to do it right.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples


Determining requirements, really.
Assuming that I have all the underlying data, I need to figure out how to
generate a Make/Buy report looking at it by time periods.

I just talked to Rocky and using EZ-MRP maybe a solution...
I don't know what is involved in creating my own system so it is hard to
determine which way to go...

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 5:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples

JR,

  What is it that your looking of examples for? "MRP" covers a lot of
ground; BOM's, Routings, Time Phased Inventory, Purchasing, Quality control,
Scrap and Rejection, Capacity planning, etc.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples


Hi All,

I need to create an application that can perform Material Requirements
Planning (MRP) generation.
I have done a lot of Google searching looking for programming examples with
no luck.

I don't want to recreate the wheel here if there are already some examples
that I could learn from.

Anyone know of how to achieve this or have any links that might point me in
the right direction?

Thanks,
JR




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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Tue Jul 19 18:16:05 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:16:05 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion (BOM) query...
	again
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC00@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Hi folks,
 
I thought I had got over this one years ago and can't find the SQL query
template someone (Lembit???) here kindly supplied last time.  
 
But it has come back to get me again, so....
 
Does someone have a "template" query to return all the parts in an
n-level parts explosion, preferably in binary-tree pre-order order.
* all components, subcomponents and parts are held in the same table, 
* it is a one way tree - i.e. parts that are used in multiple assemblies
appear multiple times in the table (i.e.i.e. the pkey for the tree table
is not the SKU)
 
 
tia
bruce
 
 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Jul 19 18:49:05 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:49:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion (BOM) query...
	again
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC00@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <42DD9171.2010200@shaw.ca>

Do you mean the nested set solution from Joe Celko
It is further written up in his book "SQL for Smarties"
http://www.mvps.org/access/queries/qry0023.htm
or this one
http://www.mvps.org/access/modules/mdl0027.htm

Bruen, Bruce wrote:

>Hi folks,
> 
>I thought I had got over this one years ago and can't find the SQL query
>template someone (Lembit???) here kindly supplied last time.  
> 
>But it has come back to get me again, so....
> 
>Does someone have a "template" query to return all the parts in an
>n-level parts explosion, preferably in binary-tree pre-order order.
>* all components, subcomponents and parts are held in the same table, 
>* it is a one way tree - i.e. parts that are used in multiple assemblies
>appear multiple times in the table (i.e.i.e. the pkey for the tree table
>is not the SKU)
> 
> 
>tia
>bruce
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Jul 19 19:00:08 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:00:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
References: <200507190907578.SM03480@MarcelPC>
Message-ID: <00b201c58cbd$feb3a1e0$6601a8c0@user>

Hi Marcel - Here are some links for Australian immigration. 

Main website:
http://www.immigrationinfoaustralia.com/default.asp?fid=103076

You can also use the website to complete an assessment which will give you a 'score' (based on the points system). Essentially, based on your age, qualifications, family setup, health etc. they allocate you a score and that score can mean that you qualify as a skilled immigrant.

To see that page, go to:

https://www.migrationexpert.com/register.asp?type=1&fid=100135

I'm sure that your qualifications, age and skills would be fairly in demand in Australia - but it depends on what they are looking for at any point in time. A friend of mine's brother  who is mid 30's, married, 3 small children has just qualified to immigrate from Wales - he is a painter (walls, not art) and that is in demand right now.

Good luck.

Kath

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marcel Vreuls 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:10 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment


  Hi All,


  I have been a freelance programmer for about 6 years now. I like the
  "freedom" I have got and it helped me al lot. As I have been on and off this
  list in the last few years and most of the time reading I thought just drop
  the question perhaps someone can help me.

  As I had some really heavy problems the last one and a half year I am think
  of emigrating to another country (at this time I am living in the
  netherlands). Mind you no illegal shit and so, but problems with ex-wife,
  child protection, etc. As a father you always start 6-0 behind, have to make
  it even and then get your advantage. I do not think this is any different in
  other countries so that is not the main reason. The main reason is start all
  over again.

  Now I have some questions and I hope your experience can help me. I know I
  cannot go to another country and go life there. There are all kind of rules
  that apply but for this example, I meet those rules

  - anyone any ideas how to get a (freelance) job in for example America,
  Canada or Australia. Any suggestions, references, contacts, offers and help
  are welcome. Here in Holland there are companies, sort of temp offices, who
  offer jobs to freelancers where you have to register. Most companies never
  do direct business with freelancers. It cost you about 10% of your our rate,
  but it is the only way.
  - What kind of insurance, taxes do I have to deal with as freelancer?
  - How are the rates, salary??
  - Any experience with school and after school-support for kids when you are
  working??

  About me. I am 32 year old, have 1 kid and am MCSE and  MCSD vb6, .NET
  certified and about 10 years of hand-on IT experience


  Thxs, again,

  Marcel




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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Tue Jul 19 21:18:26 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:18:26 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion (BOM)
	query...again
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC01@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Thanks Marty!
That's the one
bruce 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2005 9:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion (BOM)
query...again

Do you mean the nested set solution from Joe Celko It is further written
up in his book "SQL for Smarties"
http://www.mvps.org/access/queries/qry0023.htm
or this one
http://www.mvps.org/access/modules/mdl0027.htm

Bruen, Bruce wrote:

>Hi folks,
> 
>I thought I had got over this one years ago and can't find the SQL 
>query template someone (Lembit???) here kindly supplied last time.
> 
>But it has come back to get me again, so....
> 
>Does someone have a "template" query to return all the parts in an 
>n-level parts explosion, preferably in binary-tree pre-order order.
>* all components, subcomponents and parts are held in the same table,
>* it is a one way tree - i.e. parts that are used in multiple 
>assemblies appear multiple times in the table (i.e.i.e. the pkey for 
>the tree table is not the SKU)
> 
> 
>tia
>bruce
>
>  
>

--
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Tue Jul 19 21:20:31 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:20:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion (BOM)
	query...again
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC02@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Sorry, I meant Joe Celko's was the one! 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2005 9:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion (BOM)
query...again

Do you mean the nested set solution from Joe Celko It is further written
up in his book "SQL for Smarties"
http://www.mvps.org/access/queries/qry0023.htm
or this one
http://www.mvps.org/access/modules/mdl0027.htm

Bruen, Bruce wrote:

>Hi folks,
> 
>I thought I had got over this one years ago and can't find the SQL 
>query template someone (Lembit???) here kindly supplied last time.
> 
>But it has come back to get me again, so....
> 
>Does someone have a "template" query to return all the parts in an 
>n-level parts explosion, preferably in binary-tree pre-order order.
>* all components, subcomponents and parts are held in the same table,
>* it is a one way tree - i.e. parts that are used in multiple 
>assemblies appear multiple times in the table (i.e.i.e. the pkey for 
>the tree table is not the SKU)
> 
> 
>tia
>bruce
>
>  
>

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Canada



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From robert at servicexp.com  Tue Jul 19 21:33:24 2005
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:33:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook 2003
Message-ID: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4EE0@gbsserver.GBS.local>

 
I have 3 machines, all Win Xp Pro. 2 of the 3 machines I own, the other
at work. The problem is occasionally Outlook 2003 will open and then
immediately shut down. This can go on for several attempts... I have
search the internet and can't seem to find anything about this problem..


Any Idea's

Robert


From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Jul 20 07:16:55 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:16:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3DC@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks for the reply Jim,

I would be willing to take what ever you have. I am trying to get a look at
the big picture to see what would be involved it creating this project.

Thanks!
JR

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From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples

Joe,

  I have BOM explosion logic that is SQL based and VBA based, which will
generate material requirements that can be time phased.  There are a bunch
of other things that then come into play; Planed orders, demand time fences,
fixed and/or variable lead times, safety stock, minimum order qty, economic
order qty, independent demands, etc

 I can recommend a DB design that has worked well for me over the years.

 But it's a lot of work and a major undertaking to do it right.

Jim.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples


Determining requirements, really.
Assuming that I have all the underlying data, I need to figure out how to
generate a Make/Buy report looking at it by time periods.

I just talked to Rocky and using EZ-MRP maybe a solution...
I don't know what is involved in creating my own system so it is hard to
determine which way to go...

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 5:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples

JR,

  What is it that your looking of examples for? "MRP" covers a lot of
ground; BOM's, Routings, Time Phased Inventory, Purchasing, Quality control,
Scrap and Rejection, Capacity planning, etc.

Jim.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples


Hi All,

I need to create an application that can perform Material Requirements
Planning (MRP) generation.
I have done a lot of Google searching looking for programming examples with
no luck.

I don't want to recreate the wheel here if there are already some examples
that I could learn from.

Anyone know of how to achieve this or have any links that might point me in
the right direction?

Thanks,
JR




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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 08:00:27 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:00:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] ADH2K - utils - TsiNameFixup90
Message-ID: <20050720130027.4861.qmail@web31610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi group,

I was browsing the CD A2K Developers handbook volume
2: Enterprise Edition.

I found the following file in:
Z:\Other\TSI\AutocorrectWizard\TsiNameFixup90.dll

It had a readme file (text is below).
However I 'm confused on what to do with the DLL.

I've created a module in wich I instantiate a
TsiNameFixup90.dll object

Public objAutoCorrect As TsiNameFixup90
Set objAutoCorrect = New TsiNameFixup90

The problem is that the objAutoCorrect seems to have
no public interface i.e. there are now
properties/methods when I try the intellisense.

Does anybody know how I can use this DLL?? 

BTW: The AutoCorrect function is really cool!!!!!
SD
------------------------------------------------------
README.txt
------------------------------------------------------
The Access 2000 "Name AutoCorrect" feature is a pretty
cool one. The following is 
an excerpt from the Access 2000 Help topic "What Name
AutoCorrect fixes and 
doesn't fix in an Access Database.":

"In Microsoft Access 97 and previous versions, if you
rename a field in a table, you 
find that the objects based on that field no longer
display the data from that field. 
Microsoft Access 2000 automatically corrects common
side effects that occur when 
you rename forms, reports, tables, queries, fields,
text boxes or other controls in a 
Microsoft Access database. This feature is called Name
AutoCorrect."

As the help topic discusses later on (you can look at
it directly for details) Access 2000 
Name AutoCorrect does not do every possible kind of
name fixup you could possibly need 
when you change the name of an object, field, or
control.  But it does handle many of the 
scenarios that you might want it to.

However, in order for it to work, you need two things:
1) The Tools|Options properties for Name AutoCorrect
must be set to True for the 
database so that Access knows to update the name maps
for the various objects and to
actually do renames as it finds that it needs to.
2) The "name maps" for the various objects must be up
to date.

If you have turned off the properties in #1 above, or
if you are converting a database
from a prior version, your name maps may be incomplete
or non-existent. The only way to
update them is to turn on the properties and then open
each table, query, form, and report
in design view and save.

Thats what this ComAddIn does! It does the work to set
the properties and open/save/close
all of the objects. Certainly easier than doing it all
yourself.

Source is also available for your viewing pleasure.
Its a nice, simple example of a ComAddIn
for Access 2000 that interacts with the Access menus
and object model.

Enjoy!

Michael Kaplan
Trigeminal Software, Inc.


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jul 20 08:24:12 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:24:12 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion (BOM)
	query...again
Message-ID: <s2de6caf.076@cactus.dk>

Hi Bruce

Have in mind that DAO may be superior regarding speed and ease of
maintenance (no "special" fields needed, just the parent ID, thus no
smart SQL).

Lookup "Tree shaped reports" from 2002-06-02 in the archive.
Maybe my function RecursiveLookup() can guide you ...

This function uses a static recordset and Seek and runs blazingly
fast.

/gustav



>>> Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au 07/20 1:16 am >>>
Hi folks,
 
I thought I had got over this one years ago and can't find the SQL
query template someone (Lembit???) here kindly supplied last time.  
 
But it has come back to get me again, so....
 
Does someone have a "template" query to return all the parts in an
n-level parts explosion, preferably in binary-tree pre-order order.
* all components, subcomponents and parts are held in the same table, 
* it is a one way tree - i.e. parts that are used in multiple
assemblies appear multiple times in the table (i.e.i.e. the pkey for the
tree table is not the SKU)



From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 08:41:57 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:41:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report
Message-ID: <20050720134157.74985.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi group,

We've got a large Access database 150+ tables, 80+
forms and 175+ reports. Anyway I think it's very big.

I just found the AutoCorrect function and we've got a
big change comming up.

What I want is to build a small app that checks all
code in the application for any changes logged to the
table "Name AutoCorrect Log". 

My Question: How can I retrieve the VBA code in a
form, report, module and/or class?

SD

PS: Yes, I know Total Access Analyzer can do the job
but the fuckers here rather spend ?10.000 then ?1.000
for the application.


		
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jul 20 09:01:39 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:01:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F13237C6D@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Well you are going to have to work with the HasModule and Module properties
of forms and reports. 

But first you should go back to the bean counters and tell them that for the
cost of your development time they could purchase a copy of Rick Fisher's
Find and Replace (just $37 for the Access 2000 and greater version, my
preferred tool - http://www.rickworld.com) every hour or so, or Total Access
Analyzer  every few hours. There is just no point reinventing the wheel when
others before us have already done such a good job.

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:42 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report


Hi group,

We've got a large Access database 150+ tables, 80+
forms and 175+ reports. Anyway I think it's very big.

I just found the AutoCorrect function and we've got a
big change comming up.

What I want is to build a small app that checks all
code in the application for any changes logged to the
table "Name AutoCorrect Log". 

My Question: How can I retrieve the VBA code in a
form, report, module and/or class?

SD

PS: Yes, I know Total Access Analyzer can do the job
but the fuckers here rather spend ?10.000 then ?1.000
for the application.


		
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 20 09:45:04 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:45:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED24@ADGSERVER>

Hey,

In my Access app, I am doing a sort of mail merge using find and replace.
Anyway, I am using a .DOT doc, a temporary doc, and an output doc to do what
I need.  It works fine.

My question is, how can bring Word to the front after the report is
generated?  I am trying to get something to happen like when previewing a
report.

Thanks,
Bobby



From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jul 20 09:46:07 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:46:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F13237C6D@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <200507201446.j6KEk7hM333560@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>

Agree. Another is Speed Ferret  http://www.speedferret.com/ 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:02 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Sad Der'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report

Well you are going to have to work with the HasModule and Module properties
of forms and reports. 

But first you should go back to the bean counters and tell them that for the
cost of your development time they could purchase a copy of Rick Fisher's
Find and Replace (just $37 for the Access 2000 and greater version, my
preferred tool - http://www.rickworld.com) every hour or so, or Total Access
Analyzer  every few hours. There is just no point reinventing the wheel when
others before us have already done such a good job.

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:42 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report


Hi group,

We've got a large Access database 150+ tables, 80+ forms and 175+ reports.
Anyway I think it's very big.

I just found the AutoCorrect function and we've got a big change comming up.

What I want is to build a small app that checks all code in the application
for any changes logged to the table "Name AutoCorrect Log". 

My Question: How can I retrieve the VBA code in a form, report, module
and/or class?

SD

PS: Yes, I know Total Access Analyzer can do the job but the fuckers here
rather spend ?10.000 then ?1.000 for the application.


		
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 09:52:46 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:52:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED24@ADGSERVER>
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED24@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920507200752349262f3@mail.gmail.com>

On 20/07/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:

> My question is, how can bring Word to the front after the report is
> generated?  I am trying to get something to happen like when previewing a
> report.

Assuming that objWord is a reference to your Word Object you can use:

objWord.Visible = True
ObjWord.Activate

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 20 10:19:34 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:19:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B29@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Or MZ-Tools 3.0 (free).  http://www.mztools.com 

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:46 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class,
report


Agree. Another is Speed Ferret  http://www.speedferret.com/ 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:02 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Sad Der'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class,
report

Well you are going to have to work with the HasModule and Module
properties of forms and reports. 

But first you should go back to the bean counters and tell them that for
the cost of your development time they could purchase a copy of Rick
Fisher's Find and Replace (just $37 for the Access 2000 and greater
version, my preferred tool - http://www.rickworld.com) every hour or so,
or Total Access Analyzer  every few hours. There is just no point
reinventing the wheel when others before us have already done such a
good job.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:42 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report


Hi group,

We've got a large Access database 150+ tables, 80+ forms and 175+
reports. Anyway I think it's very big.

I just found the AutoCorrect function and we've got a big change comming
up.

What I want is to build a small app that checks all code in the
application for any changes logged to the table "Name AutoCorrect Log". 

My Question: How can I retrieve the VBA code in a form, report, module
and/or class?

SD

PS: Yes, I know Total Access Analyzer can do the job but the fuckers
here rather spend ?10.000 then ?1.000 for the application.


		
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 20 10:21:30 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:21:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] ADH2K - utils - TsiNameFixup90
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B2A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Before you get too excited about Name Autocorrect, remember that it has
also been implicated in every weird Access problem imaginable.  I turn
it off by default and avoid a lot of headaches.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Sad Der [mailto:accessd666 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:00 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] ADH2K - utils - TsiNameFixup90


Hi group,

I was browsing the CD A2K Developers handbook volume
2: Enterprise Edition.

I found the following file in:
Z:\Other\TSI\AutocorrectWizard\TsiNameFixup90.dll

It had a readme file (text is below).
However I 'm confused on what to do with the DLL.

I've created a module in wich I instantiate a TsiNameFixup90.dll object

Public objAutoCorrect As TsiNameFixup90
Set objAutoCorrect = New TsiNameFixup90

The problem is that the objAutoCorrect seems to have
no public interface i.e. there are now
properties/methods when I try the intellisense.

Does anybody know how I can use this DLL?? 

BTW: The AutoCorrect function is really cool!!!!!
SD
------------------------------------------------------
README.txt
------------------------------------------------------
The Access 2000 "Name AutoCorrect" feature is a pretty
cool one. The following is 
an excerpt from the Access 2000 Help topic "What Name AutoCorrect fixes
and 
doesn't fix in an Access Database.":

"In Microsoft Access 97 and previous versions, if you
rename a field in a table, you 
find that the objects based on that field no longer
display the data from that field. 
Microsoft Access 2000 automatically corrects common
side effects that occur when 
you rename forms, reports, tables, queries, fields,
text boxes or other controls in a 
Microsoft Access database. This feature is called Name AutoCorrect."

As the help topic discusses later on (you can look at
it directly for details) Access 2000 
Name AutoCorrect does not do every possible kind of
name fixup you could possibly need 
when you change the name of an object, field, or
control.  But it does handle many of the 
scenarios that you might want it to.

However, in order for it to work, you need two things:
1) The Tools|Options properties for Name AutoCorrect
must be set to True for the 
database so that Access knows to update the name maps
for the various objects and to
actually do renames as it finds that it needs to.
2) The "name maps" for the various objects must be up
to date.

If you have turned off the properties in #1 above, or
if you are converting a database
from a prior version, your name maps may be incomplete
or non-existent. The only way to
update them is to turn on the properties and then open
each table, query, form, and report
in design view and save.

Thats what this ComAddIn does! It does the work to set
the properties and open/save/close
all of the objects. Certainly easier than doing it all yourself.

Source is also available for your viewing pleasure.
Its a nice, simple example of a ComAddIn
for Access 2000 that interacts with the Access menus
and object model.

Enjoy!

Michael Kaplan
Trigeminal Software, Inc.


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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 11:26:25 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:26:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B29@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20050720162625.2794.qmail@web31602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thnx, for the replies!

Charlotte....MZ-Tools we've got that one. Is it
possible to do what i described below?

SD

--- Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
wrote:

> Or MZ-Tools 3.0 (free).  http://www.mztools.com 
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:46 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form,
> module, class,
> report
> 
> 
> Agree. Another is Speed Ferret 
> http://www.speedferret.com/ 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:02 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving'
> Cc: 'Sad Der'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form,
> module, class,
> report
> 
> Well you are going to have to work with the
> HasModule and Module
> properties of forms and reports. 
> 
> But first you should go back to the bean counters
> and tell them that for
> the cost of your development time they could
> purchase a copy of Rick
> Fisher's Find and Replace (just $37 for the Access
> 2000 and greater
> version, my preferred tool -
> http://www.rickworld.com) every hour or so,
> or Total Access Analyzer  every few hours. There is
> just no point
> reinventing the wheel when others before us have
> already done such a
> good job.
> 
> Lambert
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Sad Der
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:42 AM
> To: Acces User Group
> Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form,
> module, class, report
> 
> 
> Hi group,
> 
> We've got a large Access database 150+ tables, 80+
> forms and 175+
> reports. Anyway I think it's very big.
> 
> I just found the AutoCorrect function and we've got
> a big change comming
> up.
> 
> What I want is to build a small app that checks all
> code in the
> application for any changes logged to the table
> "Name AutoCorrect Log". 
> 
> My Question: How can I retrieve the VBA code in a
> form, report, module
> and/or class?
> 
> SD
> 
> PS: Yes, I know Total Access Analyzer can do the job
> but the fuckers
> here rather spend ?10.000 then ?1.000 for the
> application.
> 
> 
> 		
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 20 11:50:04 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:50:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C25FC6@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED28@ADGSERVER>

Hey Bryan,

I have done that, it flashes up than access comes back up over it.  Now note
that I am manually calling the function from the immediate window.  That may
be making it act differently.  I'm currently working on a form at the moment
to call the code from.  I'll post the results.

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A Word question


On 20/07/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:

> My question is, how can bring Word to the front after the report is
> generated?  I am trying to get something to happen like when previewing a
> report.

Assuming that objWord is a reference to your Word Object you can use:

objWord.Visible = True
ObjWord.Activate

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 20 12:38:10 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:38:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED28@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <42DE8C02.8030807@shaw.ca>

Just a hint check your task manager processes occassionally when debugging
the use of word this way,  and delete all the unused word.exe that will 
probably left orphaned.
I have wondered why my machine was getting sluggish and found 20 copies 
left running a day later..


Bobby Heid wrote:

>Hey Bryan,
>
>I have done that, it flashes up than access comes back up over it.  Now note
>that I am manually calling the function from the immediate window.  That may
>be making it act differently.  I'm currently working on a form at the moment
>to call the code from.  I'll post the results.
>
>Thanks,
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
>Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:53 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A Word question
>
>
>On 20/07/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>My question is, how can bring Word to the front after the report is
>>generated?  I am trying to get something to happen like when previewing a
>>report.
>>    
>>
>
>Assuming that objWord is a reference to your Word Object you can use:
>
>objWord.Visible = True
>ObjWord.Activate
>
>  
>

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 20 12:47:49 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:47:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C26058@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED2D@ADGSERVER>

Thanks for the hint.  I have frequently checked for this as I have heard
this before.  My code looks for an existing copy of word and uses that if
available, else it creates an instance.  

Thanks,
Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A Word question


Just a hint check your task manager processes occassionally when debugging
the use of word this way,  and delete all the unused word.exe that will 
probably left orphaned.
I have wondered why my machine was getting sluggish and found 20 copies 
left running a day later..



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 20 13:10:46 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:10:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A627@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I'm not clear on exactly what you want to do with the tool.  MZ-Tools
will do find and replace, as will the other apps suggested, but beyond
that, what do you want it to do?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Sad Der [mailto:accessd666 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:26 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class,
report


Thnx, for the replies!

Charlotte....MZ-Tools we've got that one. Is it
possible to do what i described below?

SD

--- Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
wrote:

> Or MZ-Tools 3.0 (free).  http://www.mztools.com
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:46 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form,
> module, class,
> report
> 
> 
> Agree. Another is Speed Ferret
> http://www.speedferret.com/ 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:02 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving'
> Cc: 'Sad Der'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form,
> module, class,
> report
> 
> Well you are going to have to work with the
> HasModule and Module
> properties of forms and reports.
> 
> But first you should go back to the bean counters
> and tell them that for
> the cost of your development time they could
> purchase a copy of Rick
> Fisher's Find and Replace (just $37 for the Access
> 2000 and greater
> version, my preferred tool -
> http://www.rickworld.com) every hour or so,
> or Total Access Analyzer  every few hours. There is
> just no point
> reinventing the wheel when others before us have
> already done such a
> good job.
> 
> Lambert
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Sad Der
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:42 AM
> To: Acces User Group
> Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form,
> module, class, report
> 
> 
> Hi group,
> 
> We've got a large Access database 150+ tables, 80+
> forms and 175+
> reports. Anyway I think it's very big.
> 
> I just found the AutoCorrect function and we've got
> a big change comming
> up.
> 
> What I want is to build a small app that checks all
> code in the
> application for any changes logged to the table
> "Name AutoCorrect Log".
> 
> My Question: How can I retrieve the VBA code in a
> form, report, module
> and/or class?
> 
> SD
> 
> PS: Yes, I know Total Access Analyzer can do the job
> but the fuckers
> here rather spend ?10.000 then ?1.000 for the
> application.
> 
> 
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 13:10:39 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:10:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED28@ADGSERVER>
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C25FC6@ADGSERVER>
	<916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED28@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920507201110204a6a3a@mail.gmail.com>

On 20/07/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:

> I have done that, it flashes up than access comes back up over it.  Now note
> that I am manually calling the function from the immediate window.  That may
> be making it act differently.  I'm currently working on a form at the moment
> to call the code from.  I'll post the results.

I tested it out from a procedure and a command button on a form in A2K
and Word stayed on top.

Access probably poped back to the front because the focus shifted back
to the debug window.

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jul 20 13:28:05 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:28:05 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class,
	report
Message-ID: <s2deb3f3.086@cactus.dk>

Hi Sad

You can extract the complete form to a textfile like this:

  SaveAsText acForm, "frmTest", "d:\frmTest.txt"

That will dump everything the form contains including bitmaps.
The last section begins with the line with this single word:

CodeBehindForm

The text after this will be your code.

If you edit the file, the form can be read (into an empty database) by


  LoadFromText acForm, "frmTest", "d:\frmTest.txt"

/gustav

> My Question: How can I retrieve the VBA code in a form, report,
module and/or class?



From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Jul 20 19:35:24 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:35:24 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] BIT OT: Any VB Gurus out there?
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA8836136AD@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Team
Working on VB code.
Code works fine in 98/ME (Shudder) but there are visual issues and
errors in 2000 or XP

The code 'draws' lines/coordinates into a Picture Box 
We have managed to get the code to kinda work in XP by changing A few
integers to longs.
Names are -
"frm_Control" for the VB Form
"ssTab" for the Tab Control
"Picture1" for the picture Box

But here's the thing

In 98/ME the drawing is done and you see the lines after clicking a
button. Lovely.
With the modified code in XP the code draws the lines but you don't see
'em.
But if you click on a Tab then come back to the PictureBox in question
then you see the lines.

So how do I refresh the contents of a picture box in VB?

Frm_Control.Picture1.Requery Doesn't work  - I get
Compile Error 
Method or Data member not found

So...any suggestions on how to 'redraw' or 'refresh' or 'requery' this
thing with out changing tabs.
BTW - There is very little code in the TabChange code. It has nothing to
do with repainting etc.

Many thanks

Darren


From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Wed Jul 20 19:45:51 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:45:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] BIT OT: Any VB Gurus out there?
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA8836136AD@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <000901c58d8d$8ceacb30$0302a8c0@default>

Darren,

Have you set AutoRedraw = True?
If not, and using a blt method, try Picture1.Refresh.

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Dick" <D.Dick at uws.edu.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 8:35 PM
Subject: [AccessD] BIT OT: Any VB Gurus out there?


> Hi Team
> Working on VB code.
> Code works fine in 98/ME (Shudder) but there are visual issues and
> errors in 2000 or XP
>
> The code 'draws' lines/coordinates into a Picture Box
> We have managed to get the code to kinda work in XP by changing A few
> integers to longs.
> Names are -
> "frm_Control" for the VB Form
> "ssTab" for the Tab Control
> "Picture1" for the picture Box
>
> But here's the thing
>
> In 98/ME the drawing is done and you see the lines after clicking a
> button. Lovely.
> With the modified code in XP the code draws the lines but you don't see
> 'em.
> But if you click on a Tab then come back to the PictureBox in question
> then you see the lines.
>
> So how do I refresh the contents of a picture box in VB?
>
> Frm_Control.Picture1.Requery Doesn't work  - I get
> Compile Error
> Method or Data member not found
>
> So...any suggestions on how to 'redraw' or 'refresh' or 'requery' this
> thing with out changing tabs.
> BTW - There is very little code in the TabChange code. It has nothing to
> do with repainting etc.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Darren
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jul 20 20:00:54 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:00:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion
	(BOM)query...again
In-Reply-To: <s2de6caf.076@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200507210100.j6L10pR24439@databaseadvisors.com>

I will look at this and hope to mine some useful stuff from it.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: July 20, 2005 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion
(BOM)query...again

Hi Bruce

Have in mind that DAO may be superior regarding speed and ease of
maintenance (no "special" fields needed, just the parent ID, thus no
smart SQL).

Lookup "Tree shaped reports" from 2002-06-02 in the archive.
Maybe my function RecursiveLookup() can guide you ...

This function uses a static recordset and Seek and runs blazingly
fast.

/gustav



>>> Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au 07/20 1:16 am >>>
Hi folks,
 
I thought I had got over this one years ago and can't find the SQL
query template someone (Lembit???) here kindly supplied last time.  
 
But it has come back to get me again, so....
 
Does someone have a "template" query to return all the parts in an
n-level parts explosion, preferably in binary-tree pre-order order.
* all components, subcomponents and parts are held in the same table, 
* it is a one way tree - i.e. parts that are used in multiple
assemblies appear multiple times in the table (i.e.i.e. the pkey for the
tree table is not the SKU)

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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jul 20 20:03:36 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:03:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920507200752349262f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200507210103.j6L13XR25238@databaseadvisors.com>

You have supplied so many useful answers to this thread and others, Bryan,
that I must ask, Where are you getting your insights? I have tried various
searches and not even got close to the info you so readily supply.

A.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: July 20, 2005 10:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A Word question

On 20/07/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:

> My question is, how can bring Word to the front after the report is
> generated?  I am trying to get something to happen like when previewing a
> report.

Assuming that objWord is a reference to your Word Object you can use:

objWord.Visible = True
ObjWord.Activate

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Jul 20 21:05:25 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:05:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] BIT OT: Any VB Gurus out there?
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA8836137E0@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Michael
Excellent
Many thanks - I think the Autodraw = true is the answer
It is at least on my Dev machine
I'll try it out at the clients machine today

Many many thanks

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] BIT OT: Any VB Gurus out there?

Darren,

Have you set AutoRedraw = True?
If not, and using a blt method, try Picture1.Refresh.

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Dick" <D.Dick at uws.edu.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 8:35 PM
Subject: [AccessD] BIT OT: Any VB Gurus out there?


> Hi Team
> Working on VB code.
> Code works fine in 98/ME (Shudder) but there are visual issues and 
> errors in 2000 or XP
>
> The code 'draws' lines/coordinates into a Picture Box We have managed 
> to get the code to kinda work in XP by changing A few integers to 
> longs.
> Names are -
> "frm_Control" for the VB Form
> "ssTab" for the Tab Control
> "Picture1" for the picture Box
>
> But here's the thing
>
> In 98/ME the drawing is done and you see the lines after clicking a 
> button. Lovely.
> With the modified code in XP the code draws the lines but you don't 
> see 'em.
> But if you click on a Tab then come back to the PictureBox in question

> then you see the lines.
>
> So how do I refresh the contents of a picture box in VB?
>
> Frm_Control.Picture1.Requery Doesn't work  - I get Compile Error 
> Method or Data member not found
>
> So...any suggestions on how to 'redraw' or 'refresh' or 'requery' this

> thing with out changing tabs.
> BTW - There is very little code in the TabChange code. It has nothing 
> to do with repainting etc.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Darren
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Thu Jul 21 07:16:24 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:16:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
In-Reply-To: <200507210103.j6L13XR25238@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <e04a6c920507200752349262f3@mail.gmail.com>
	<200507210103.j6L13XR25238@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c92050721051628bed39d@mail.gmail.com>

On 20/07/05, Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:

> You have supplied so many useful answers to this thread and others, Bryan,
> that I must ask, Where are you getting your insights? I have tried various
> searches and not even got close to the info you so readily supply.

BFI. Brute Force and Ignorance. :-)

Honestly, its just that I have done a LOT of Word, Access/Word,
Excel/Word programming over the past several years, that I have come
across a bunch of these things already. That's it. Just experience
with various bits of the Word Object model.

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jul 21 07:40:28 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:40:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C26074@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED33@ADGSERVER>

I believe that the problem with word not coming to the front did have to do
with using the debug window.

Thanks,
Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A Word question


On 20/07/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:

> I have done that, it flashes up than access comes back up over it.  Now
note
> that I am manually calling the function from the immediate window.  That
may
> be making it act differently.  I'm currently working on a form at the
moment
> to call the code from.  I'll post the results.

I tested it out from a procedure and a command button on a form in A2K
and Word stayed on top.

Access probably poped back to the front because the focus shifted back
to the debug window.

-- 
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Jul 21 08:41:15 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:41:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Micrometer or Caliper Data Direct to Access
Message-ID: <000001c58df9$dfff22a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hello all!

 

Many hand measuring instruments have an electronic component that is used to
send measurement data to a PC, given the right software.  The way this works
is to measure an item, then push a button on the instrument to send the
measurement info to a PC.  

 

I'd like to find out if anyone has experience working with these instruments
and collecting the data in an Access database, and could steer in good
directions and away from poor ones!

 

Thanks!

Dan Waters



From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Jul 21 16:00:02 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:00:02 (MET DST)
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox
Message-ID: <200507211400.j6LE02D6011976@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello Group,

is it possible, when opening a listbox with a long list of values, it opens always with the first value. Is it possible to open with the last values.

Pedro Janssen


From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Thu Jul 21 09:02:37 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:02:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3B98@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Pedro

Why not just reverse your sort then?

Jim DeMarco

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of pedro at plex.nl
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:00 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox


Hello Group,

is it possible, when opening a listbox with a long list of values, it opens always with the first value. Is it possible to open with the last values.

Pedro Janssen
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Thu Jul 21 09:03:37 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:03:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox
In-Reply-To: <200507211400.j6LE02D6011976@mailhostC.plex.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAKBzI62YxaVKgIhohcU0vwcBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Pedro,

I think you can do this using the ListIndex Property, if you know how many
values there are I think you can do the following:

	MyListbox.ListIndex = (YourCountOfValuesInList-1)

Paul Hartland 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of pedro at plex.nl
Sent: 21 July 2005 16:00
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox

Hello Group,

is it possible, when opening a listbox with a long list of values, it opens
always with the first value. Is it possible to open with the last values.

Pedro Janssen
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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Jul 21 10:19:20 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:19:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox
Message-ID: <200507211509.j6LF9tr17042@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Try

Me.List0.ListIndex = Me.List0.ListCount - 1


Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of pedro at plex.nl
Sent: 21 July 2005 17:00
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox


Hello Group,

is it possible, when opening a listbox with a long list of values, it
opens always with the first value. Is it possible to open with the last
values.

Pedro Janssen
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jul 21 10:28:18 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:28:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A63A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Try something like this (warning:  air code)

Me.lstListBox.Selected(Me.lstListBox.ItemData(Me.lstListBox.ListCount-1)
) = True    

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: pedro at plex.nl [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:00 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox


Hello Group,

is it possible, when opening a listbox with a long list of values, it
opens always with the first value. Is it possible to open with the last
values.

Pedro Janssen
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jul 21 11:05:27 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:05:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Micrometer or Caliper Data Direct to Access
References: <000001c58df9$dfff22a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <42DFC7C7.5020502@shaw.ca>

http://www.taltech.com
I have used these products a couple of years ago. Might be a tad 
expensive, as you can write your own
code via mscomm.ocx, which I think is installed or licensed from VB6 . 
However you may have problems
writing code to handle sampling stream rates and line drops and all the 
possible error conditions that this software covers.
If your requirements are really simple you might just get away with 
using mscomm. Lots of net examples.

Input RS232 data directly into Excel, Access, or any Windows 
application. WinWedge provides real-time data collection from any serial 
device or instrument. TCP-Wedge software provides data collection from 
any TCP/IP network. Send and receive RS232 data across a TCP/IP port 
with TCP/Com serial to TCP/IP converter software. In other words just 
drop your instrument on the net.

Lots of useful test software here like code for a breakout box, there 
are articles on the site explaining methods.
However it appears they dumped one useful example in VB, it was too good.
http://www.taltech.com/freesoftware/fs_sw.htm

This site also may have good software suggestions and methods
National Instruments.
http://www.ni.com

Dan Waters wrote:

>Hello all!
>
> 
>
>Many hand measuring instruments have an electronic component that is used to
>send measurement data to a PC, given the right software.  The way this works
>is to measure an item, then push a button on the instrument to send the
>measurement info to a PC.  
>
> 
>
>I'd like to find out if anyone has experience working with these instruments
>and collecting the data in an Access database, and could steer in good
>directions and away from poor ones!
>
> 
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dan Waters
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Jul 21 12:41:57 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:41:57 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox
Message-ID: <s2dffa99.004@cactus.dk>

Hi Pedro

Your listbox may not have settled at the OnCurrent event of the form.

Thus, create a textbox and set the controlsource to:

  =SetListboxLast()

and create this function in the code module of the form:

Private Function SetListboxLast()

  ' Set listbox lstDemo to the last entry.

  With Me!lstDemo
    If IsNull(.Value) Then
      .Value = .ItemData(.ListCount - 1)
    End If
  End With
  
End Function

Then, shortly after the form has opened, the listbox is set to its last
value.
This is for a single-select listbox.

/gustav


>>> pedro at plex.nl 07/21 4:00 pm >>>
Hello Group,

is it possible, when opening a listbox with a long list of values, it
opens always with the first value. Is it possible to open with the last
values.

Pedro Janssen



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jul 21 13:31:17 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:31:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED3E@ADGSERVER>

Me again,

I am generating 1-2 tables per page on this report that I'm doing in word
via automation.  It takes, on average, 1.8 seconds to create one page.  This
is an average from 406 pages.  In trying to make it faster, I have
determined that the table code takes 66% of the time it takes to create a
page.  Note that the tables can have a variable number of items in it.

I am including the relevant bits of code.  I know it is a lot to look
through so it's ok if you want to stop here.  The one second saved still has
the recordset stuff in it, so that is not the bottleneck.

Anyone have any ideas as to how I may speed this up?  I have included what a
finished table looks like at the end of this email.

Thanks,
Bobby

This is what I'm doing (for each table):
If Not rs2.EOF Then
               rs2.MoveLast
               rs2.MoveFirst
		   'add the table
               Set wrdTableWC = wrdDocTmp.Tables.Add(.Selection.Range,
rs2.RecordCount + 3, 3)
		   'format the table and create headers
               SetUpTable wrdApp, wrdTableWC, "Workers' Compensation", "WC",
rs2.RecordCount + 3
               End If
                            
               i = 3
               Do While Not rs2.EOF
                  With wrdTableWC
                     .Cell(i, 1).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Description], "")
                     .Cell(i, 2).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Code], "")
                     .Cell(i, 3).Range.Text = "$"
                     End With
                     
                  rs2.MoveNext
                  i = i + 1
                  Loop
                  
            rs2.Close
            End If

'set up the table by formatting cells and writing static text
Private Sub SetUpTable(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object,
ByVal strTitle As String, _
   ByVal strType As String, ByVal lLast As Long)
Dim wrdRow  As Object

   On Error GoTo Proc_Err

            With wrdTable
               .Borders.InsideLineStyle = 1
'wdLineStyleSingle
               .Borders.OutsideLineStyle = 7
'wdLineStyleDouble
               .Columns(1).Width = 250
               .Columns(2).Width = 60
               .Columns(3).Width = 200
               End With
               
            '1st row set to caption
            Set wrdRow = wrdTable.Rows(1)
            wrdRow.cells.Merge
            wrdRow.Shading.Texture = 250           'wdTexture25Percent
            With wrdTable.Cell(1, 1).Range
               .Font.Size = 14
               .Font.Bold = True
               .Paragraphs.Alignment = 1         'wdAlignRowCenter
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 1, 1, strTitle, False
               
            With wrdTable
               .Cell(2, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 0
'wdAlignRowLeft
               .Cell(2, 2).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(2, 3).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(lLast, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 2
'wdAlignRowRight
               .Cell(lLast, 2).Range.Shading.BackgroundPatternColorIndex =
16  'wdGray25
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 1, strType & " Classification
Description", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 2, strType & " Code", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 3, "Actual Payroll", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 1, "Total", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 3, "$", False

End sub 


'write a cell in the table
Private Sub WriteCell3(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object, _
   ByVal x As Long, ByVal y As Long, ByVal strData As String, ByRef bBold As
Boolean)

   wrdTable.Cell(x, y).SELECT
   wrdApp.Selection.Font.Bold = bBold
   wrdApp.Selection.TypeText strData
   
End Sub



I hope this will come across to the list.
 
Workers' Compensation	
WC Classification Description	WC Code	Actual Payroll	
Stone Install	1803	$	
Tile Work	5348	$	
Carpentry	5437	$	
Carpet, Vinyl Install	5478	$	
Executive Supervisors	5606	$	
Total		$	

 
General Liablity	
GL Classification Description	GL Code	Actual Payroll	
Executive Supervisors	91580	$	
Floor Covering Install	94569	$	
Tile Install Interior	99746	$	
Total		$	



From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jul 21 13:41:58 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:41:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED3E@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <200507211842.j6LIg0R24629@databaseadvisors.com>

Wow, that is a lot to think about, Bobby! But thank you for opening my eyes
as to how to deal with this sort of problem. It may be a while before I am
into it enough to offer suggestions for optimizing it, however. But thanks
for the insights!

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: July 21, 2005 2:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...

Me again,

I am generating 1-2 tables per page on this report that I'm doing in word
via automation.  It takes, on average, 1.8 seconds to create one page.  This
is an average from 406 pages.  In trying to make it faster, I have
determined that the table code takes 66% of the time it takes to create a
page.  Note that the tables can have a variable number of items in it.

I am including the relevant bits of code.  I know it is a lot to look
through so it's ok if you want to stop here.  The one second saved still has
the recordset stuff in it, so that is not the bottleneck.

Anyone have any ideas as to how I may speed this up?  I have included what a
finished table looks like at the end of this email.

Thanks,
Bobby

This is what I'm doing (for each table):
If Not rs2.EOF Then
               rs2.MoveLast
               rs2.MoveFirst
		   'add the table
               Set wrdTableWC = wrdDocTmp.Tables.Add(.Selection.Range,
rs2.RecordCount + 3, 3)
		   'format the table and create headers
               SetUpTable wrdApp, wrdTableWC, "Workers' Compensation", "WC",
rs2.RecordCount + 3
               End If
                            
               i = 3
               Do While Not rs2.EOF
                  With wrdTableWC
                     .Cell(i, 1).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Description], "")
                     .Cell(i, 2).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Code], "")
                     .Cell(i, 3).Range.Text = "$"
                     End With
                     
                  rs2.MoveNext
                  i = i + 1
                  Loop
                  
            rs2.Close
            End If

'set up the table by formatting cells and writing static text
Private Sub SetUpTable(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object,
ByVal strTitle As String, _
   ByVal strType As String, ByVal lLast As Long)
Dim wrdRow  As Object

   On Error GoTo Proc_Err

            With wrdTable
               .Borders.InsideLineStyle = 1
'wdLineStyleSingle
               .Borders.OutsideLineStyle = 7
'wdLineStyleDouble
               .Columns(1).Width = 250
               .Columns(2).Width = 60
               .Columns(3).Width = 200
               End With
               
            '1st row set to caption
            Set wrdRow = wrdTable.Rows(1)
            wrdRow.cells.Merge
            wrdRow.Shading.Texture = 250           'wdTexture25Percent
            With wrdTable.Cell(1, 1).Range
               .Font.Size = 14
               .Font.Bold = True
               .Paragraphs.Alignment = 1         'wdAlignRowCenter
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 1, 1, strTitle, False
               
            With wrdTable
               .Cell(2, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 0
'wdAlignRowLeft
               .Cell(2, 2).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(2, 3).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(lLast, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 2
'wdAlignRowRight
               .Cell(lLast, 2).Range.Shading.BackgroundPatternColorIndex =
16  'wdGray25
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 1, strType & " Classification
Description", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 2, strType & " Code", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 3, "Actual Payroll", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 1, "Total", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 3, "$", False

End sub 


'write a cell in the table
Private Sub WriteCell3(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object, _
   ByVal x As Long, ByVal y As Long, ByVal strData As String, ByRef bBold As
Boolean)

   wrdTable.Cell(x, y).SELECT
   wrdApp.Selection.Font.Bold = bBold
   wrdApp.Selection.TypeText strData
   
End Sub



I hope this will come across to the list.
 
Workers' Compensation	
WC Classification Description	WC Code	Actual Payroll	
Stone Install	1803	$	
Tile Work	5348	$	
Carpentry	5437	$	
Carpet, Vinyl Install	5478	$	
Executive Supervisors	5606	$	
Total		$	

 
General Liablity	
GL Classification Description	GL Code	Actual Payroll	
Executive Supervisors	91580	$	
Floor Covering Install	94569	$	
Tile Install Interior	99746	$	
Total		$	

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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jul 21 13:48:45 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:48:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED3E@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <200507211848.j6LImlR26073@databaseadvisors.com>

There seems to be a dangling ENDIF, (after rs2.close) and I'm not sure where
it's IF should go.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: July 21, 2005 2:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...

Me again,

I am generating 1-2 tables per page on this report that I'm doing in word
via automation.  It takes, on average, 1.8 seconds to create one page.  This
is an average from 406 pages.  In trying to make it faster, I have
determined that the table code takes 66% of the time it takes to create a
page.  Note that the tables can have a variable number of items in it.

I am including the relevant bits of code.  I know it is a lot to look
through so it's ok if you want to stop here.  The one second saved still has
the recordset stuff in it, so that is not the bottleneck.

Anyone have any ideas as to how I may speed this up?  I have included what a
finished table looks like at the end of this email.

Thanks,
Bobby

This is what I'm doing (for each table):
If Not rs2.EOF Then
               rs2.MoveLast
               rs2.MoveFirst
		   'add the table
               Set wrdTableWC = wrdDocTmp.Tables.Add(.Selection.Range,
rs2.RecordCount + 3, 3)
		   'format the table and create headers
               SetUpTable wrdApp, wrdTableWC, "Workers' Compensation", "WC",
rs2.RecordCount + 3
               End If
                            
               i = 3
               Do While Not rs2.EOF
                  With wrdTableWC
                     .Cell(i, 1).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Description], "")
                     .Cell(i, 2).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Code], "")
                     .Cell(i, 3).Range.Text = "$"
                     End With
                     
                  rs2.MoveNext
                  i = i + 1
                  Loop
                  
            rs2.Close
            End If

'set up the table by formatting cells and writing static text
Private Sub SetUpTable(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object,
ByVal strTitle As String, _
   ByVal strType As String, ByVal lLast As Long)
Dim wrdRow  As Object

   On Error GoTo Proc_Err

            With wrdTable
               .Borders.InsideLineStyle = 1
'wdLineStyleSingle
               .Borders.OutsideLineStyle = 7
'wdLineStyleDouble
               .Columns(1).Width = 250
               .Columns(2).Width = 60
               .Columns(3).Width = 200
               End With
               
            '1st row set to caption
            Set wrdRow = wrdTable.Rows(1)
            wrdRow.cells.Merge
            wrdRow.Shading.Texture = 250           'wdTexture25Percent
            With wrdTable.Cell(1, 1).Range
               .Font.Size = 14
               .Font.Bold = True
               .Paragraphs.Alignment = 1         'wdAlignRowCenter
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 1, 1, strTitle, False
               
            With wrdTable
               .Cell(2, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 0
'wdAlignRowLeft
               .Cell(2, 2).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(2, 3).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(lLast, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 2
'wdAlignRowRight
               .Cell(lLast, 2).Range.Shading.BackgroundPatternColorIndex =
16  'wdGray25
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 1, strType & " Classification
Description", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 2, strType & " Code", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 3, "Actual Payroll", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 1, "Total", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 3, "$", False

End sub 


'write a cell in the table
Private Sub WriteCell3(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object, _
   ByVal x As Long, ByVal y As Long, ByVal strData As String, ByRef bBold As
Boolean)

   wrdTable.Cell(x, y).SELECT
   wrdApp.Selection.Font.Bold = bBold
   wrdApp.Selection.TypeText strData
   
End Sub



I hope this will come across to the list.
 
Workers' Compensation	
WC Classification Description	WC Code	Actual Payroll	
Stone Install	1803	$	
Tile Work	5348	$	
Carpentry	5437	$	
Carpet, Vinyl Install	5478	$	
Executive Supervisors	5606	$	
Total		$	

 
General Liablity	
GL Classification Description	GL Code	Actual Payroll	
Executive Supervisors	91580	$	
Floor Covering Install	94569	$	
Tile Install Interior	99746	$	
Total		$	

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jul 21 13:50:00 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:50:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
Message-ID: <000501c58e25$02a3a3a0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for VBExpress
which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE instead of being
embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels almost identical to the
Visual Studio however.

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/

Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos available.  I
discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some) videos
for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they would
allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty quickly, and
I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show you
how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so far)
that we can only dream of in VBA.

Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the video
series right now.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/




From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jul 21 13:52:35 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:52:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C262F4@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED40@ADGSERVER>

I see that it did not come across as RTF.  If anyone is interested in seeing
the rtf version, let me know and I'll send you a copy off-list.

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...


Me again,

I am generating 1-2 tables per page on this report that I'm doing in word
via automation.  It takes, on average, 1.8 seconds to create one page.  This
is an average from 406 pages.  In trying to make it faster, I have
determined that the table code takes 66% of the time it takes to create a
page.  Note that the tables can have a variable number of items in it.

I am including the relevant bits of code.  I know it is a lot to look
through so it's ok if you want to stop here.  The one second saved still has
the recordset stuff in it, so that is not the bottleneck.

Anyone have any ideas as to how I may speed this up?  I have included what a
finished table looks like at the end of this email.

Thanks,
Bobby

This is what I'm doing (for each table):
If Not rs2.EOF Then
               rs2.MoveLast
               rs2.MoveFirst
		   'add the table
               Set wrdTableWC = wrdDocTmp.Tables.Add(.Selection.Range,
rs2.RecordCount + 3, 3)
		   'format the table and create headers
               SetUpTable wrdApp, wrdTableWC, "Workers' Compensation", "WC",
rs2.RecordCount + 3
               End If
                            
               i = 3
               Do While Not rs2.EOF
                  With wrdTableWC
                     .Cell(i, 1).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Description], "")
                     .Cell(i, 2).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Code], "")
                     .Cell(i, 3).Range.Text = "$"
                     End With
                     
                  rs2.MoveNext
                  i = i + 1
                  Loop
                  
            rs2.Close
            End If

'set up the table by formatting cells and writing static text
Private Sub SetUpTable(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object,
ByVal strTitle As String, _
   ByVal strType As String, ByVal lLast As Long)
Dim wrdRow  As Object

   On Error GoTo Proc_Err

            With wrdTable
               .Borders.InsideLineStyle = 1
'wdLineStyleSingle
               .Borders.OutsideLineStyle = 7
'wdLineStyleDouble
               .Columns(1).Width = 250
               .Columns(2).Width = 60
               .Columns(3).Width = 200
               End With
               
            '1st row set to caption
            Set wrdRow = wrdTable.Rows(1)
            wrdRow.cells.Merge
            wrdRow.Shading.Texture = 250           'wdTexture25Percent
            With wrdTable.Cell(1, 1).Range
               .Font.Size = 14
               .Font.Bold = True
               .Paragraphs.Alignment = 1         'wdAlignRowCenter
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 1, 1, strTitle, False
               
            With wrdTable
               .Cell(2, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 0
'wdAlignRowLeft
               .Cell(2, 2).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(2, 3).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(lLast, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 2
'wdAlignRowRight
               .Cell(lLast, 2).Range.Shading.BackgroundPatternColorIndex =
16  'wdGray25
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 1, strType & " Classification
Description", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 2, strType & " Code", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 3, "Actual Payroll", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 1, "Total", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 3, "$", False

End sub 


'write a cell in the table
Private Sub WriteCell3(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object, _
   ByVal x As Long, ByVal y As Long, ByVal strData As String, ByRef bBold As
Boolean)

   wrdTable.Cell(x, y).SELECT
   wrdApp.Selection.Font.Bold = bBold
   wrdApp.Selection.TypeText strData
   
End Sub



I hope this will come across to the list.
 
Workers' Compensation	
WC Classification Description	WC Code	Actual Payroll	
Stone Install	1803	$	
Tile Work	5348	$	
Carpentry	5437	$	
Carpet, Vinyl Install	5478	$	
Executive Supervisors	5606	$	
Total		$	

 
General Liablity	
GL Classification Description	GL Code	Actual Payroll	
Executive Supervisors	91580	$	
Floor Covering Install	94569	$	
Tile Install Interior	99746	$	
Total		$	

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul 21 14:01:17 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:01:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: MySQL experts
Message-ID: <20050721190116.LVV7280.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

A local business is looking for a MySQL expert -- the work can probably be
done virtually -- they need to convert a db to MySQL. Send me a resume
privately at ssharkins at bellsouth.net and I'll forward it on to the contact. 
 
Thanks,
Susan H. 


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jul 21 14:12:00 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:12:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C26302@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED41@ADGSERVER>

Sorry about that.  That END IF is from an outside if.  That first bit of
code is just the relevant code concerning the table stuff.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Another word question...


There seems to be a dangling ENDIF, (after rs2.close) and I'm not sure where
it's IF should go.




From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Jul 21 15:28:54 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:28:54 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox
References: <s2dffa99.004@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002901c58e33$27d8c0c0$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello,

thanks to all who responded.
With your help i must be no problem to solve this.

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] show last value in listbox


> Hi Pedro
> 
> Your listbox may not have settled at the OnCurrent event of the form.
> 
> Thus, create a textbox and set the controlsource to:
> 
>   =SetListboxLast()
> 
> and create this function in the code module of the form:
> 
> Private Function SetListboxLast()
> 
>   ' Set listbox lstDemo to the last entry.
> 
>   With Me!lstDemo
>     If IsNull(.Value) Then
>       .Value = .ItemData(.ListCount - 1)
>     End If
>   End With
>   
> End Function
> 
> Then, shortly after the form has opened, the listbox is set to its last
> value.
> This is for a single-select listbox.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> pedro at plex.nl 07/21 4:00 pm >>>
> Hello Group,
> 
> is it possible, when opening a listbox with a long list of values, it
> opens always with the first value. Is it possible to open with the last
> values.
> 
> Pedro Janssen
> 
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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jul 21 16:02:37 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:02:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED41@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <200507212102.j6LL2bR26204@databaseadvisors.com>

Thanks for the clarification!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: July 21, 2005 3:12 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Another word question...

Sorry about that.  That END IF is from an outside if.  That first bit of
code is just the relevant code concerning the table stuff.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Another word question...


There seems to be a dangling ENDIF, (after rs2.close) and I'm not sure where
it's IF should go.


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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 21 20:57:10 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:57:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
References: <000501c58e25$02a3a3a0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV18F555738CC7AC2A5A84D6AEC90@phx.gbl>

JC

..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio 
Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of VB.net in 
order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the 
VBExpress route instead?

..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD" 
<AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for VBExpress
> which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE instead of 
> being
> embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels almost identical to 
> the
> Visual Studio however.
>
> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
>
> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos available. 
> I
> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some) 
> videos
> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they would
> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty quickly, 
> and
> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show you
> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so far)
> that we can only dream of in VBA.
>
> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the video
> series right now.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jul 21 21:11:59 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:11:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV18F555738CC7AC2A5A84D6AEC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000a01c58e62$be555610$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

William,

Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in the
Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes.  The
videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the controls, the
forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual Studio.

My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have never
managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even purchased it
because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is very
stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


JC

..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio 
Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of VB.net in 
order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the 
VBExpress route instead?

..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD" 
<AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for 
> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE 
> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels 
> almost identical to the
> Visual Studio however.
>
> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
>
> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos 
> available.
> I
> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some) 
> videos
> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they would
> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty quickly, 
> and
> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show you
> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so far)
> that we can only dream of in VBA.
>
> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the 
> video series right now.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 22 01:08:54 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:08:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
References: <000a01c58e62$be555610$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV627EDA34DF58782227F54AEC90@phx.gbl>

..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing around 
VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name is 
similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports cleanly, 
at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports distributed 
Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having full 
Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve first 
:(

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


> William,
>
> Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in the
> Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes.  The
> videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the controls, the
> forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual 
> Studio.
>
> My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have never
> managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even purchased 
> it
> because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is very
> stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
>
>
> JC
>
> ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio
> Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of VB.net in
> order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the
> VBExpress route instead?
>
> ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
>
> William
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
> <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
>
>
>> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
>> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE
>> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels
>> almost identical to the
>> Visual Studio however.
>>
>> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
>>
>> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
>> available.
>> I
>> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
>> videos
>> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they would
>> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty quickly,
>> and
>> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show 
>> you
>> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so far)
>> that we can only dream of in VBA.
>>
>> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
>> video series right now.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>
>>
>> --
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Jul 22 03:34:56 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:34:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
In-Reply-To: <000501c58e25$02a3a3a0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAABSFB6Rx11hHhtK0mLnDu/wBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Anyone know anymore downloads like this, I currently develop in Access97,
2000, XP, VB6, SQL Server 7.0/2000 and really want to start getting into
.NET, What would be a good starting point to move into .NET.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions etc

Paul Hartland

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 21 July 2005 19:50
To: VBA; AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos

In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for VBExpress
which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE instead of being
embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels almost identical to the
Visual Studio however.

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/

Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos available.  I
discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some) videos
for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they would
allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty quickly, and
I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show you
how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so far)
that we can only dream of in VBA.

Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the video
series right now.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jul 22 05:04:24 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:04:24 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
Message-ID: <s2e0e0cc.008@cactus.dk>

Hi Bobby

One method is to avoid Selection and only deal with ranges. I've used
that with Excel and guess you can do the same with Word.

Another more radical method is to rebuild your function to generate the
full RTF code and write that directly to a file. It may not be that
difficult as you will not generate all the "fat" that Word normally adds
to an RTF file.
I've used that method for a client to generate the basic text for a
catalogue and it runs at a speed you hardly believe, about 20ms per
page. That's because all you do is to loop the recordset(s) while
appending pure ASCII to a text file you keep open during the process.

Look up in the archive "Writing raw RTF document using VBA - Solved"
from 2004-01-02.

/gustav


>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 07/21 8:31 pm >>>
Me again,

I am generating 1-2 tables per page on this report that I'm doing in
word
via automation.  It takes, on average, 1.8 seconds to create one page. 
This
is an average from 406 pages.  In trying to make it faster, I have
determined that the table code takes 66% of the time it takes to create
a
page.  Note that the tables can have a variable number of items in it.



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jul 22 07:34:05 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:34:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C263C4@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED46@ADGSERVER>

Thanks, I'll check that out.  I did not think about using RTF.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:04 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another word question...


Hi Bobby

One method is to avoid Selection and only deal with ranges. I've used
that with Excel and guess you can do the same with Word.

Another more radical method is to rebuild your function to generate the
full RTF code and write that directly to a file. It may not be that
difficult as you will not generate all the "fat" that Word normally adds
to an RTF file.
I've used that method for a client to generate the basic text for a
catalogue and it runs at a speed you hardly believe, about 20ms per
page. That's because all you do is to loop the recordset(s) while
appending pure ASCII to a text file you keep open during the process.

Look up in the archive "Writing raw RTF document using VBA - Solved"
from 2004-01-02.

/gustav


>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 07/21 8:31 pm >>>
Me again,

I am generating 1-2 tables per page on this report that I'm doing in
word
via automation.  It takes, on average, 1.8 seconds to create one page. 
This
is an average from 406 pages.  In trying to make it faster, I have
determined that the table code takes 66% of the time it takes to create
a
page.  Note that the tables can have a variable number of items in it.

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jul 22 07:45:33 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:45:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C263C4@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED47@ADGSERVER>

Gustav,

I just figured out that I can not do a full RTF document.  The reason being
that the user creates the word document with bookmarks.  So I do not know
the layout of the document.

But, can I just figure out how to do the two tables in RTF and insert it
into the word document?

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:04 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another word question...


Hi Bobby

One method is to avoid Selection and only deal with ranges. I've used
that with Excel and guess you can do the same with Word.

Another more radical method is to rebuild your function to generate the
full RTF code and write that directly to a file. It may not be that
difficult as you will not generate all the "fat" that Word normally adds
to an RTF file.
I've used that method for a client to generate the basic text for a
catalogue and it runs at a speed you hardly believe, about 20ms per
page. That's because all you do is to loop the recordset(s) while
appending pure ASCII to a text file you keep open during the process.

Look up in the archive "Writing raw RTF document using VBA - Solved"
from 2004-01-02.

/gustav




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jul 22 07:54:31 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:54:31 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
Message-ID: <s2e108ca.011@cactus.dk>

Hi Bobby

I guess you could but I don't think that will do much. 
The time hog is the automation part (major) and the use of Selection
(minor).

/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 07/22 2:45 pm >>>
Gustav,

I just figured out that I can not do a full RTF document.  The reason
being
that the user creates the word document with bookmarks.  So I do not
know
the layout of the document.

But, can I just figure out how to do the two tables in RTF and insert
it
into the word document?

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:04 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another word question...


Hi Bobby

One method is to avoid Selection and only deal with ranges. I've used
that with Excel and guess you can do the same with Word.

Another more radical method is to rebuild your function to generate
the
full RTF code and write that directly to a file. It may not be that
difficult as you will not generate all the "fat" that Word normally
adds
to an RTF file.
I've used that method for a client to generate the basic text for a
catalogue and it runs at a speed you hardly believe, about 20ms per
page. That's because all you do is to loop the recordset(s) while
appending pure ASCII to a text file you keep open during the process.

Look up in the archive "Writing raw RTF document using VBA - Solved"
from 2004-01-02.

/gustav



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Jul 22 10:28:34 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:28:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
References: <s2da4efd.099@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <00e601c58ed2$05e7c980$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Gustav:

DO you know if a form is not pop-up will it disappear with the Access 
window? Seemed to on my first experiment with this.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> Hi Rocky
>
> I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
> complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
> confusing.
> Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely.
> I modified it slightly:
>
> Option Compare Database
> Option Explicit
>
> Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
> Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3
>
> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
>  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Public Function fAccessWindow( _
>  Optional Procedure As String, _
>  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
>  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
>  As Boolean
>
>  Dim lngState    As Long
>  Dim lngReturn   As Long
>  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
>
>  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp
>
>  If SwitchStatus = False Then
>    Select Case Procedure
>      Case "Hide"
>        lngState = SW_HIDE
>      Case "Show", "Normal"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>      Case "Minimize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>      Case "Maximize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>      Case Else
>        lngState = -1
>    End Select
>  Else
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      lngState = SW_HIDE
>    Else
>      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  If lngState >= 0 Then
>    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
>  End If
>
>  If StatusCheck = True Then
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      booVisible = True
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  fAccessWindow = booVisible
>
> End Function
>
> Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
> Dear List:
>
> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without
> the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as
> it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or
> tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Jul 22 10:32:55 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:32:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016DA84@main2.marlow.com>

Yes, because if it's not a pop-up form, then it will be 'underneath' the
Access window, so it wouldn't be seen.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


Gustav:

DO you know if a form is not pop-up will it disappear with the Access 
window? Seemed to on my first experiment with this.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> Hi Rocky
>
> I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
> complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
> confusing.
> Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely.
> I modified it slightly:
>
> Option Compare Database
> Option Explicit
>
> Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
> Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3
>
> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
>  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Public Function fAccessWindow( _
>  Optional Procedure As String, _
>  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
>  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
>  As Boolean
>
>  Dim lngState    As Long
>  Dim lngReturn   As Long
>  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
>
>  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp
>
>  If SwitchStatus = False Then
>    Select Case Procedure
>      Case "Hide"
>        lngState = SW_HIDE
>      Case "Show", "Normal"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>      Case "Minimize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>      Case "Maximize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>      Case Else
>        lngState = -1
>    End Select
>  Else
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      lngState = SW_HIDE
>    Else
>      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  If lngState >= 0 Then
>    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
>  End If
>
>  If StatusCheck = True Then
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      booVisible = True
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  fAccessWindow = booVisible
>
> End Function
>
> Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
> Dear List:
>
> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without
> the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as
> it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or
> tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
> -- 
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jul 22 10:38:16 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:38:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B39@infoserver01.infostat.local>

VS Tools comes with a standard version of VB.Net.  VBExpress is supposed
to be the answer to the cry, "why can't you make it easier for
non-developers to use?"  To me that is utter nonsense, since no one but
a developer can make effective use of it anyhow! <grumble>

All the tools that were in the previous developers editions of Office
(or the ADT for an earlier version of Access) are in VS Tools now,
including the packaging wizard and the Access runtime.  If you are
developing Access 2003 apps and want to distribute the runtime, you need
VS Tools, not VBExpress.


Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:dejpolsys at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing
around 
VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name
is 
similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports
cleanly, 
at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports
distributed 
Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having
full 
Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve
first 
:(

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


> William,
>
> Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in 
> the Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly 
> yes.  The videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the 
> controls, the forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the 
> version in Visual Studio.
>
> My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have 
> never managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even 
> purchased it because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta 
> which is very
> stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William 
> Hindman
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
>
>
> JC
>
> ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio 
> Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of 
> VB.net in order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want

> to go the VBExpress route instead?
>
> ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
>
> William
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
> <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
>
>
>> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for 
>> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE

>> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels 
>> almost identical to the Visual Studio however.
>>
>> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
>>
>> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos 
>> available. I
>> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
>> videos
>> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they
would
>> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty
quickly,
>> and
>> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will
show 
>> you
>> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so
far)
>> that we can only dream of in VBA.
>>
>> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the 
>> video series right now.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
>> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
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>
>
>
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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jul 22 10:39:05 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:39:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV627EDA34DF58782227F54AEC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200507221539.j6MFd8R16637@databaseadvisors.com>

William (and any others interested)...

If your box can support a pair of monitors I strongly suggest that you go
that way. Then you can really begin to enjoy the UI of .NET, because you can
drag all the toolbars etc. to the second monitor and have a nice clean
surface to work on. This changes everything! (Incidentally, the same applies
to Dreamweaver MX.) Once you go to using two monitors, it is very difficult
to go back.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: July 22, 2005 2:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos

..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing around 
VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name is 
similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports cleanly, 
at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jul 22 10:47:48 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:47:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B3A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I use two and put the solution explorer, properties window, etc. on the
second.  A couple of other developer stretch the interface across the
two monitors, which drives me nuts when I try to find anything on their
screen!  I admit that it is handy for VS.Net, but I think dual monitors
are useless for any other purpose except testing.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:39 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


William (and any others interested)...

If your box can support a pair of monitors I strongly suggest that you
go that way. Then you can really begin to enjoy the UI of .NET, because
you can drag all the toolbars etc. to the second monitor and have a nice
clean surface to work on. This changes everything! (Incidentally, the
same applies to Dreamweaver MX.) Once you go to using two monitors, it
is very difficult to go back.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: July 22, 2005 2:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos

..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing
around 
VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name
is 
similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports
cleanly, 
at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jul 22 11:04:11 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:04:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B39@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <001f01c58ed7$000b4aa0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

>VBExpress is supposed to be the answer to the cry, "why can't you make it
easier for non-developers to use?"  To me that is utter nonsense, since no
one but a developer can make effective use of it anyhow! <grumble>

LOL, I agree.  What it does is lower the cost threshold for getting in to
.net.  .NET no matter how you slice it, is a huge, complex, very powerful
object model with massive ability and massive learning curve.  

As a learning tool I am trying to move a simple 3 class set of data objects
to .net and it has taken all of yesterday and all of today to get just to
the point where I can start testing it.  I fully expect another couple of
days just to get them functioning.  And this for three simple classes that
already worked using ado in VBA.   Of course I am pretty much starting from
ground zero in terms of .net knowledge.  I have studied the books
intermittently over the last year but never really kept at it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


VS Tools comes with a standard version of VB.Net.  VBExpress is supposed to
be the answer to the cry, "why can't you make it easier for non-developers
to use?"  To me that is utter nonsense, since no one but a developer can
make effective use of it anyhow! <grumble>

All the tools that were in the previous developers editions of Office (or
the ADT for an earlier version of Access) are in VS Tools now, including the
packaging wizard and the Access runtime.  If you are developing Access 2003
apps and want to distribute the runtime, you need VS Tools, not VBExpress.


Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:dejpolsys at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing around 
VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name is 
similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports cleanly, 
at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports distributed 
Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having full 
Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve first

:(

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


> William,
>
> Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in
> the Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly 
> yes.  The videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the 
> controls, the forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the 
> version in Visual Studio.
>
> My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have
> never managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even 
> purchased it because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta 
> which is very
> stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
> Hindman
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
>
>
> JC
>
> ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio
> Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of 
> VB.net in order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want

> to go the VBExpress route instead?
>
> ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
>
> William
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD" 
> <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
>
>
>> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
>> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE

>> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels
>> almost identical to the Visual Studio however.
>>
>> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
>>
>> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
>> available. I
>> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
>> videos
>> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they
would
>> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty
quickly,
>> and
>> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will
show 
>> you
>> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so
far)
>> that we can only dream of in VBA.
>>
>> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
>> video series right now.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>
>>
>> --
>> AccessD mailing list
>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
> --
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>
>
>
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From darsant at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 11:11:16 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:11:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B3A@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B3A@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a0507220911139d4425@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/22/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> I use two and put the solution explorer, properties window, etc. on the
> second.  A couple of other developer stretch the interface across the
> two monitors, which drives me nuts when I try to find anything on their
> screen!  I admit that it is handy for VS.Net, but I think dual monitors
> are useless for any other purpose except testing.
> 
> Charlotte Foust

I hate that fact that there's no easy way to make it span two monitors
without disjoining them. On Access, I leave the VB window up on one
monitor and the form view on another. Helps with keeping the code tied
to reality sometimes.

In VS.Net, for a single application it's pointless for me to develop
in two monitors (granted, I can make the code window bigger by
dragging the solution explorer, etc to the other window, but nothing
increased productivity wise.

Now, when I'm looking code up online to help debug our programs, the
2nd monitor's extra space keeps from Alt-tabbing.

For a developer, 2nd monitors make things simpler if you're using good
programs. Maybe 2005 will allow us better dual monitor support.


-- 
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jul 22 11:13:13 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:13:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B3A@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200507221613.j6MGDGR25152@databaseadvisors.com>

Well, we certainly disagree on your last comment, Charlotte! I absolutely
LOVE having various programs open on each monitor, for example Outlook on
one, Word on the other, and so on. When debugging etc. it is even better!
Nothing like putting the Access code window on one monitor and the running
application on the other! Once you do that, there's no turning back! IMO.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: July 22, 2005 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos

I use two and put the solution explorer, properties window, etc. on the
second.  A couple of other developer stretch the interface across the
two monitors, which drives me nuts when I try to find anything on their
screen!  I admit that it is handy for VS.Net, but I think dual monitors
are useless for any other purpose except testing.

Charlotte Foust




From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jul 22 11:25:20 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:25:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED47@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <200507221625.j6MGPMR28078@databaseadvisors.com>

After looking through your code and playing a bit with it, I'm wondering
whether I can work backwards, sort of. Assume that my template contains a
table with a header row and one blank row, already formatted to the size and
font etc. that I want in the populated result. Would I need to specify these
when adding rows, or is that already done, given the existence of the table
header and blank row? Failing that, can I deduce the column widths etc. from
the existing header and blank row? What's the best way to go about this?
Start with a 1-row table (plus header), or manufacture the whole table as
you apparently do?

It's possible, in the document I need to create, that one of the tables will
contain zero rows (it would always be Table Two). This occurs rarely but I
need to be able to deal with it. Assuming (as now) that the table exists in
the template file, how would I hide it in the event that it contains zero
rows of data?

Thanks!

Arthur



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jul 22 11:26:12 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:26:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B3B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I don't like having a bunch of programs open at once unless I'm working
directly with all of them, as in programming their interaction.
Everything that isn't being worked in can just stay in the taskbar as
far as I'm concerned.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


Well, we certainly disagree on your last comment, Charlotte! I
absolutely LOVE having various programs open on each monitor, for
example Outlook on one, Word on the other, and so on. When debugging
etc. it is even better! Nothing like putting the Access code window on
one monitor and the running application on the other! Once you do that,
there's no turning back! IMO.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: July 22, 2005 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos

I use two and put the solution explorer, properties window, etc. on the
second.  A couple of other developer stretch the interface across the
two monitors, which drives me nuts when I try to find anything on their
screen!  I admit that it is handy for VS.Net, but I think dual monitors
are useless for any other purpose except testing.

Charlotte Foust


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From kevinb at bepc.com  Fri Jul 22 11:46:28 2005
From: kevinb at bepc.com (Kevin Bachmeier)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:46:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Log file from corruption during Application.CompactRepair.
Message-ID: <5C210A2F04B76B4AB2A18E6FEB81713401CDA7B0@HDQ06.bepc.net>

I have read the documentation on the Application.CompactRepair method,
(below is snippet of that docu). 

If the compact and repair encounters corruption during the process a log
file created.  I understand where it will be placed (destination
directory), but does anyone know what the name of the log file will be?
I'd like to attach it in an email message.  Does anyone know how to
force corruption during an CompactRepair?

(databasename.LOG)??

Thanks in advance.
Kevin


DOCU SNIPPET FROM MSDN:
LogFile  Optional Boolean. True if a log file is created in the
destination directory to record any corruption detected in the source
file. A log file is only created if corruption is detected in the source
file. If LogFile is False or omitted, no log file is created, even if
corruption is detected in the source file.


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Jul 22 11:59:26 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:59:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Micrometer or Caliper Data Direct to Access
In-Reply-To: <28043420.1121962133967.JavaMail.root@sniper18>
Message-ID: <000001c58ede$b9bf19c0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Thanks Marty!

This looks like a great start.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Micrometer or Caliper Data Direct to Access

http://www.taltech.com
I have used these products a couple of years ago. Might be a tad 
expensive, as you can write your own
code via mscomm.ocx, which I think is installed or licensed from VB6 . 
However you may have problems
writing code to handle sampling stream rates and line drops and all the 
possible error conditions that this software covers.
If your requirements are really simple you might just get away with 
using mscomm. Lots of net examples.

Input RS232 data directly into Excel, Access, or any Windows 
application. WinWedge provides real-time data collection from any serial 
device or instrument. TCP-Wedge software provides data collection from 
any TCP/IP network. Send and receive RS232 data across a TCP/IP port 
with TCP/Com serial to TCP/IP converter software. In other words just 
drop your instrument on the net.

Lots of useful test software here like code for a breakout box, there 
are articles on the site explaining methods.
However it appears they dumped one useful example in VB, it was too good.
http://www.taltech.com/freesoftware/fs_sw.htm

This site also may have good software suggestions and methods
National Instruments.
http://www.ni.com

Dan Waters wrote:

>Hello all!
>
> 
>
>Many hand measuring instruments have an electronic component that is used
to
>send measurement data to a PC, given the right software.  The way this
works
>is to measure an item, then push a button on the instrument to send the
>measurement info to a PC.  
>
> 
>
>I'd like to find out if anyone has experience working with these
instruments
>and collecting the data in an Access database, and could steer in good
>directions and away from poor ones!
>
> 
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dan Waters
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jul 22 12:58:12 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:58:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C264A3@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED4C@ADGSERVER>

Well, in my particular case, the table variable may not be there.  In that
case, the users do not want a table to show.

I initially started out with a predefined table.  But from what I read, it
is very slow to add rows to an existing table.

When I create the table, I have an object variable pointing at the table.
SO maybe you could identify the table in code and delete it if you did not
want it?

Bobby


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Another word question...


After looking through your code and playing a bit with it, I'm wondering
whether I can work backwards, sort of. Assume that my template contains a
table with a header row and one blank row, already formatted to the size and
font etc. that I want in the populated result. Would I need to specify these
when adding rows, or is that already done, given the existence of the table
header and blank row? Failing that, can I deduce the column widths etc. from
the existing header and blank row? What's the best way to go about this?
Start with a 1-row table (plus header), or manufacture the whole table as
you apparently do?

It's possible, in the document I need to create, that one of the tables will
contain zero rows (it would always be Table Two). This occurs rarely but I
need to be able to deal with it. Assuming (as now) that the table exists in
the template file, how would I hide it in the event that it contains zero
rows of data?

Thanks!

Arthur



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 23 20:10:07 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:10:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access SQL
Message-ID: <000601c58fec$6faa9030$6401a8c0@laptop1>

What kind of SQL does Access use?
 
Is it T- SQL ?
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Jul 23 21:32:22 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:32:22 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access SQL
In-Reply-To: <000601c58fec$6faa9030$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <42E38A56.31204.31A380C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 23 Jul 2005 at 18:10, Joe Hecht wrote:

> What kind of SQL does Access use?
>  
> Is it T- SQL ?
>  

No, it's Access SQL.  
It's similar to T-SQL in that the basic commands  INSERT, SELECT, DELETE, 
UPDATE, JOIN, WHERE, GROUPBY etc) and syntax are the same. 

The main differences are that is uses standard Access/Windows wildcards 
rather than the T-SQL ones ("*" = "%" and "?" = "_") and it uses VBA 
functions in lieu of the T-SQL ones for type convertions, string 
manipulation, conditionals (such as IIF()) etc.








-- 
Stuart




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Jul 23 21:36:22 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:36:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access SQL
In-Reply-To: <000601c58fec$6faa9030$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <20050724023619.WKQA7280.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Jet SQL. SQL Server uses Transact-SQL (T-SQL). Jet's a critter all its own
but they are similar. 

Susan H. 

What kind of SQL does Access use?
 
Is it T- SQL ?



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Jul 24 02:21:50 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:21:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Micrometer or Caliper Data Direct to Access
References: <000001c58ede$b9bf19c0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <42E3418E.8060105@shaw.ca>

I came across another oldie that uses mscomm32.ocx (that comes with VB6 
but there seems to be a version with WinXP too)
or it go installed on my machine somehow. Written in  Access 97 around 1999
It mostly plays around with the modem but what the heck that is hung on 
a serial comm port too.
 From Neal Kling look under downloads menu.
http://www.geocities.com/nealakling/

Dan Waters wrote:

>Thanks Marty!
>
>This looks like a great start.
>
>Dan Waters
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:05 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Micrometer or Caliper Data Direct to Access
>
>http://www.taltech.com
>I have used these products a couple of years ago. Might be a tad 
>expensive, as you can write your own
>code via mscomm.ocx, which I think is installed or licensed from VB6 . 
>However you may have problems
>writing code to handle sampling stream rates and line drops and all the 
>possible error conditions that this software covers.
>If your requirements are really simple you might just get away with 
>using mscomm. Lots of net examples.
>
>Input RS232 data directly into Excel, Access, or any Windows 
>application. WinWedge provides real-time data collection from any serial 
>device or instrument. TCP-Wedge software provides data collection from 
>any TCP/IP network. Send and receive RS232 data across a TCP/IP port 
>with TCP/Com serial to TCP/IP converter software. In other words just 
>drop your instrument on the net.
>
>Lots of useful test software here like code for a breakout box, there 
>are articles on the site explaining methods.
>However it appears they dumped one useful example in VB, it was too good.
>http://www.taltech.com/freesoftware/fs_sw.htm
>
>This site also may have good software suggestions and methods
>National Instruments.
>http://www.ni.com
>
>Dan Waters wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hello all!
>>
>>
>>
>>Many hand measuring instruments have an electronic component that is used
>>    
>>
>to
>  
>
>>send measurement data to a PC, given the right software.  The way this
>>    
>>
>works
>  
>
>>is to measure an item, then push a button on the instrument to send the
>>measurement info to a PC.  
>>
>>
>>
>>I'd like to find out if anyone has experience working with these
>>    
>>
>instruments
>  
>
>>and collecting the data in an Access database, and could steer in good
>>directions and away from poor ones!
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Dan Waters
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jul 24 08:55:25 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:55:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
Message-ID: <000f01c59057$5abb3560$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I found this:

http://www.connectionstrings.com/

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/




From karenr7 at oz.net  Sun Jul 24 17:58:54 2005
From: karenr7 at oz.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:58:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
Message-ID: <200507242258.j6OMwrR18615@databaseadvisors.com>

I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me with a snippet of
code.

I want to work with 4 fields in a sub table, as follows:

Checkbox "NotSeen" 
Date field "NextApp"
Textbox "Priority", which runs from 1 to 4
Date field "DateReschedule"

What I would like to do (if only I was any good at VBA) is when NotSeen is
checked, the whole record would be copied and appended. Priorities 2 thru 4
would each move up a notch, i.e., 2 would become 1, etc. DateReschedule
would take the date from NextApp and...

1. For the new priority 1, add 1 day to the date from NextApp and put it in
DateReschedule
     
2. For the new priority 2, add 2 days to the date from NextApp and put it in
DateReschedule
     
3. For the new priority 3, add 3 days to the date from NextApp and put it in
DateReschedule

Finally I would like the whole record to turn red if the priority is # 1,
either from this snippet's conversion or when entered directly (actually I
think this will be unattractive, but my boss wants the color to highlight
the priority).

Is this doable in whole or in part?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 




From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Jul 24 18:58:14 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:58:14 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
References: <000a01c58e62$be555610$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
	<BAY103-DAV627EDA34DF58782227F54AEC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002901c590ab$8fe53de0$6601a8c0@user>

<<how does anyone that actually supports distributed 
Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having full 
Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve first 

William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing around 
  VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name is 
  similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports cleanly, 
  at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

  ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports distributed 
  Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having full 
  Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve first 
  :(

  William

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
  To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  > William,
  >
  > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in the
  > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes.  The
  > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the controls, the
  > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual 
  > Studio.
  >
  > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have never
  > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even purchased 
  > it
  > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is very
  > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
  >
  > John W. Colby
  > www.ColbyConsulting.com
  >
  > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
  > http://folding.stanford.edu/
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
  > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
  > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
  >
  >
  > JC
  >
  > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio
  > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of VB.net in
  > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the
  > VBExpress route instead?
  >
  > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
  >
  > William
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
  > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
  > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
  > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
  > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
  >
  >
  >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
  >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE
  >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels
  >> almost identical to the
  >> Visual Studio however.
  >>
  >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
  >>
  >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
  >> available.
  >> I
  >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
  >> videos
  >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they would
  >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty quickly,
  >> and
  >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show 
  >> you
  >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so far)
  >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
  >>
  >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
  >> video series right now.
  >>
  >> John W. Colby
  >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
  >>
  >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
  >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
  >>
  >>
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Sun Jul 24 20:26:58 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 18:26:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Jet 4 SP 8
Message-ID: <004801c590b7$f3c7ce20$6401a8c0@laptop1>

I am reading an article online about Access security and it is talking about
sandbox mode. To get there you need to be using Jet 4 SP 8.
 
I am running AXP on one machine and A2k3 on the other. How do I check Jet
Version and SP release.
 
Here is the article link.
 
http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC011461801033
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Jul 24 22:12:06 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:12:06 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364E04A@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Karen
Am I to assume if the NOTSEEN check box is checked you would like to
create a brand new 'appointment' ?

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me with a snippet of
code.

I want to work with 4 fields in a sub table, as follows:

Checkbox "NotSeen" 
Date field "NextApp"
Textbox "Priority", which runs from 1 to 4 Date field "DateReschedule"

What I would like to do (if only I was any good at VBA) is when NotSeen
is checked, the whole record would be copied and appended. Priorities 2
thru 4 would each move up a notch, i.e., 2 would become 1, etc.
DateReschedule would take the date from NextApp and...

1. For the new priority 1, add 1 day to the date from NextApp and put it
in DateReschedule
     
2. For the new priority 2, add 2 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule
     
3. For the new priority 3, add 3 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule

Finally I would like the whole record to turn red if the priority is #
1, either from this snippet's conversion or when entered directly
(actually I think this will be unattractive, but my boss wants the color
to highlight the priority).

Is this doable in whole or in part?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 24 22:15:51 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:15:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
References: <000a01c58e62$be555610$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805><BAY103-DAV627EDA34DF58782227F54AEC90@phx.gbl>
	<002901c590ab$8fe53de0$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV515AE9B1C3C3EAFD756FCAECA0@phx.gbl>

..yes ...lessons learned the hard way ...give a client full Access and 
"things" happen ...bad things ..."upgrade" that client to the newest version 
of Office Standard (w/runtime) rather than Office Pro and save them a lot of 
money ...its amazing how many strange happenings stop happening to your apps 
:(

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


<<how does anyone that actually supports distributed
Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having full
Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve first

William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing around
  VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name is
  similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports 
cleanly,
  at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

  ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports distributed
  Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having 
full
  Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve 
first
  :(

  William

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  From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
  To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  > William,
  >
  > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in the
  > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes.  The
  > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the controls, 
the
  > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual
  > Studio.
  >
  > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have 
never
  > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even 
purchased
  > it
  > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is very
  > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
  >
  > John W. Colby
  > www.ColbyConsulting.com
  >
  > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
  > http://folding.stanford.edu/
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William 
Hindman
  > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
  > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
  >
  >
  > JC
  >
  > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio
  > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of VB.net 
in
  > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the
  > VBExpress route instead?
  >
  > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
  >
  > William
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
  > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
  > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
  > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
  > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
  >
  >
  >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
  >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE
  >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels
  >> almost identical to the
  >> Visual Studio however.
  >>
  >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
  >>
  >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
  >> available.
  >> I
  >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
  >> videos
  >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they 
would
  >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty 
quickly,
  >> and
  >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show
  >> you
  >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so 
far)
  >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
  >>
  >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
  >> video series right now.
  >>
  >> John W. Colby
  >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
  >>
  >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
  >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
  >>
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From karenr7 at oz.net  Sun Jul 24 22:32:28 2005
From: karenr7 at oz.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:32:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
In-Reply-To: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364E04A@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <200507250332.j6P3WOR15243@databaseadvisors.com>

Exactly. I was just noodling around with this and figured out how to copy
and append the record with onclick:

    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend

But I don't know how to do the rest of it.

Thanks.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Am I to assume if the NOTSEEN check box is checked you would like to
create a brand new 'appointment' ?

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me with a snippet of
code.

I want to work with 4 fields in a sub table, as follows:

Checkbox "NotSeen" 
Date field "NextApp"
Textbox "Priority", which runs from 1 to 4 Date field "DateReschedule"

What I would like to do (if only I was any good at VBA) is when NotSeen
is checked, the whole record would be copied and appended. Priorities 2
thru 4 would each move up a notch, i.e., 2 would become 1, etc.
DateReschedule would take the date from NextApp and...

1. For the new priority 1, add 1 day to the date from NextApp and put it
in DateReschedule
     
2. For the new priority 2, add 2 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule
     
3. For the new priority 3, add 3 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule

Finally I would like the whole record to turn red if the priority is #
1, either from this snippet's conversion or when entered directly
(actually I think this will be unattractive, but my boss wants the color
to highlight the priority).

Is this doable in whole or in part?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


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From karenr7 at oz.net  Sun Jul 24 22:40:14 2005
From: karenr7 at oz.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:40:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
In-Reply-To: <200507250332.j6P3WOR15243@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200507250340.j6P3eAR17415@databaseadvisors.com>

Hmmmm... I just played with this bit of code again and realized that it was
duplicating the record with NotSeen checked, which duplicated the record
with NotSeen checked which....

Like the picture of the little girl with a box or salt on the Morton Salt
box.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Exactly. I was just noodling around with this and figured out how to copy
and append the record with onclick:

    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend

But I don't know how to do the rest of it.

Thanks.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Am I to assume if the NOTSEEN check box is checked you would like to
create a brand new 'appointment' ?

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me with a snippet of
code.

I want to work with 4 fields in a sub table, as follows:

Checkbox "NotSeen" 
Date field "NextApp"
Textbox "Priority", which runs from 1 to 4 Date field "DateReschedule"

What I would like to do (if only I was any good at VBA) is when NotSeen
is checked, the whole record would be copied and appended. Priorities 2
thru 4 would each move up a notch, i.e., 2 would become 1, etc.
DateReschedule would take the date from NextApp and...

1. For the new priority 1, add 1 day to the date from NextApp and put it
in DateReschedule
     
2. For the new priority 2, add 2 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule
     
3. For the new priority 3, add 3 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule

Finally I would like the whole record to turn red if the priority is #
1, either from this snippet's conversion or when entered directly
(actually I think this will be unattractive, but my boss wants the color
to highlight the priority).

Is this doable in whole or in part?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Jul 24 23:34:28 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:34:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364E13B@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Karen
Demo Sent off line
See ya

DD
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hmmmm... I just played with this bit of code again and realized that it
was duplicating the record with NotSeen checked, which duplicated the
record with NotSeen checked which....

Like the picture of the little girl with a box or salt on the Morton
Salt box.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Exactly. I was just noodling around with this and figured out how to
copy and append the record with onclick:

    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend

But I don't know how to do the rest of it.

Thanks.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Am I to assume if the NOTSEEN check box is checked you would like to
create a brand new 'appointment' ?

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me with a snippet of
code.

I want to work with 4 fields in a sub table, as follows:

Checkbox "NotSeen" 
Date field "NextApp"
Textbox "Priority", which runs from 1 to 4 Date field "DateReschedule"

What I would like to do (if only I was any good at VBA) is when NotSeen
is checked, the whole record would be copied and appended. Priorities 2
thru 4 would each move up a notch, i.e., 2 would become 1, etc.
DateReschedule would take the date from NextApp and...

1. For the new priority 1, add 1 day to the date from NextApp and put it
in DateReschedule
     
2. For the new priority 2, add 2 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule
     
3. For the new priority 3, add 3 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule

Finally I would like the whole record to turn red if the priority is #
1, either from this snippet's conversion or when entered directly
(actually I think this will be unattractive, but my boss wants the color
to highlight the priority).

Is this doable in whole or in part?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 25 01:47:54 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:47:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Jet 4 SP 8
References: <004801c590b7$f3c7ce20$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <42E48B1A.4010808@shaw.ca>

Here is the Jet SP-8 file manifest
Just check by right clicking your Dao360.dll  for property file version
should be at least Dao360.dll         3.60.8025.0     557,328 bytes
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=829558

You can find again by hunting through general mdac portal for jet
http://www.microsoft.com/data

Joe Hecht wrote:

>I am reading an article online about Access security and it is talking about
>sandbox mode. To get there you need to be using Jet 4 SP 8.
> 
>I am running AXP on one machine and A2k3 on the other. How do I check Jet
>Version and SP release.
> 
>Here is the article link.
> 
>http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC011461801033
> 
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
> 
>  
>

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From karenr7 at oz.net  Mon Jul 25 04:03:15 2005
From: karenr7 at oz.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:03:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
In-Reply-To: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364E13B@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <200507250903.j6P93TR31070@databaseadvisors.com>

Darren,
This is terrific! Thank you.

And, unfortunately, my co-workers won't be able to figure out how to read
your funny comments.

Thanks again, this will work just fine.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:34 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Demo Sent off line
See ya

DD
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hmmmm... I just played with this bit of code again and realized that it
was duplicating the record with NotSeen checked, which duplicated the
record with NotSeen checked which....

Like the picture of the little girl with a box or salt on the Morton
Salt box.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Exactly. I was just noodling around with this and figured out how to
copy and append the record with onclick:

    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend

But I don't know how to do the rest of it.

Thanks.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Am I to assume if the NOTSEEN check box is checked you would like to
create a brand new 'appointment' ?

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me with a snippet of
code.

I want to work with 4 fields in a sub table, as follows:

Checkbox "NotSeen" 
Date field "NextApp"
Textbox "Priority", which runs from 1 to 4 Date field "DateReschedule"

What I would like to do (if only I was any good at VBA) is when NotSeen
is checked, the whole record would be copied and appended. Priorities 2
thru 4 would each move up a notch, i.e., 2 would become 1, etc.
DateReschedule would take the date from NextApp and...

1. For the new priority 1, add 1 day to the date from NextApp and put it
in DateReschedule
     
2. For the new priority 2, add 2 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule
     
3. For the new priority 3, add 3 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule

Finally I would like the whole record to turn red if the priority is #
1, either from this snippet's conversion or when entered directly
(actually I think this will be unattractive, but my boss wants the color
to highlight the priority).

Is this doable in whole or in part?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 25 08:46:59 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:46:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
In-Reply-To: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364E13B@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <000201c5911f$5541b370$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Inquiring minds want to know how to do this?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:34 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Demo Sent off line
See ya

DD
 





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul 25 09:14:08 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:14:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MS certification
Message-ID: <20050725141405.XNRC19628.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

http://searchvb.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid8_gci1109668,00.h
tml
 
Susan H. 


From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Mon Jul 25 09:49:52 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:49:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Find a record in table with intervals
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EAFE7E@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

I have table (table1) with dates and a value associated with the date.

For example

 

1/1/2001                  20

7/13/2003                27

12/26/2003              31

6/4/2004                  33

1/13/2005                40

6/7/2005                  44

 

I have another table (table 2) with values in it also. Using the date in
this table I need to find the value in table one that would be correct
for that date. It is assumed the value in table one carries forward
until the date changes. The value associated with the last date carries
forward forever.

 

For example a date of 10/13/2004 should return a value of 33. I was able
to achieve the desired result with several if then else and do loops but
was hoping for a better solution. Was hoping for something like the
vlookup function in Excel.

 

Thanks.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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FAX (432) 688-3799

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul 25 09:55:00 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:55:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Find a record in table with intervals
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EAFE7E@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <20050725145457.CFCT27018.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

A subquery using IN? It sounds to me like the real work is in the
conditional expressions. 

Susan H. 

I have table (table1) with dates and a value associated with the date.

For example

 

1/1/2001                  20

7/13/2003                27

12/26/2003              31

6/4/2004                  33

1/13/2005                40

6/7/2005                  44

 

I have another table (table 2) with values in it also. Using the date in
this table I need to find the value in table one that would be correct for
that date. It is assumed the value in table one carries forward until the
date changes. The value associated with the last date carries forward
forever.

 

For example a date of 10/13/2004 should return a value of 33. I was able to
achieve the desired result with several if then else and do loops but was
hoping for a better solution. Was hoping for something like the vlookup
function in Excel.

 

Thanks.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

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From jim.moss at jlmoss.net  Mon Jul 25 10:16:36 2005
From: jim.moss at jlmoss.net (Jim Moss)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:16:36 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Access SQL
In-Reply-To: <42E38A56.31204.31A380C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <000601c58fec$6faa9030$6401a8c0@laptop1>
	<42E38A56.31204.31A380C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <2969.65.196.182.34.1122304596.squirrel@65.196.182.34>

You can optionally set the database to use SQL Server compatible syntax
(ANSI 92) in the options menu.


> On 23 Jul 2005 at 18:10, Joe Hecht wrote:
>
>> What kind of SQL does Access use?
>>
>> Is it T- SQL ?
>>
>
> No, it's Access SQL.
> It's similar to T-SQL in that the basic commands  INSERT, SELECT, DELETE,
> UPDATE, JOIN, WHERE, GROUPBY etc) and syntax are the same.
>
> The main differences are that is uses standard Access/Windows wildcards
> rather than the T-SQL ones ("*" = "%" and "?" = "_") and it uses VBA
> functions in lieu of the T-SQL ones for type convertions, string
> manipulation, conditionals (such as IIF()) etc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Jul 25 10:31:41 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:31:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dim fm as form or fm as Form_ rmCert
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337716@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

In a module I referenced an open form as follows:

dim fm as Form_frmCert 
Set fm = Forms!frmCert
....do stuff using txt values on the form
run Excel, place the text values in ranges on a worksheet
etc
	If Not (wb Is Nothing) Then Set wb = Nothing
    	If Not (fm Is Nothing) Then Set fm = Nothing
	appExcel.Quit
    	Set appExcel = Nothing

When the function finished an instance of Excel was still running.when I
changed the dim statement to read
	dim fm as form
the instance of Excel terminated properly. I've learned the hard way that
whenever I open an instance of Excel EVERY object variable must be set to
nothing because Access cannot be relied upon to cleanup properly. However,
I'm curious what is going on here. Why does fm not go out of scope?

Jim Hale

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jul 25 10:44:13 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:44:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Dim fm as form or fm as Form_ rmCert
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B44@infoserver01.infostat.local>

In order to set frm = Forms!frmCert, frmCert has to be open.  SWAG:
Unless you close it, the reference to its module (Form_frmCert) probably
won't go completely out of scope, since the object is still open.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:32 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Dim fm as form or fm as Form_ rmCert


In a module I referenced an open form as follows:

dim fm as Form_frmCert 
Set fm = Forms!frmCert
....do stuff using txt values on the form
run Excel, place the text values in ranges on a worksheet
etc
	If Not (wb Is Nothing) Then Set wb = Nothing
    	If Not (fm Is Nothing) Then Set fm = Nothing
	appExcel.Quit
    	Set appExcel = Nothing

When the function finished an instance of Excel was still running.when I
changed the dim statement to read
	dim fm as form
the instance of Excel terminated properly. I've learned the hard way
that whenever I open an instance of Excel EVERY object variable must be
set to nothing because Access cannot be relied upon to cleanup properly.
However, I'm curious what is going on here. Why does fm not go out of
scope?

Jim Hale

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jul 25 10:47:24 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:47:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B45@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Handy, isn't it.  I fell over it a month or so ago too.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado


I found this:

http://www.connectionstrings.com/

John W. Colby
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 25 10:59:46 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:59:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Jet 4 SP 8
References: <004801c590b7$f3c7ce20$6401a8c0@laptop1> <42E48B1A.4010808@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <42E50C72.3060606@shaw.ca>

This KB might be a bit clearer as it it shows how to identify the 
mjset40.dll version number
for the security patch that was added to Jet SP8 April 13, 2004

How to obtain the latest service pack for the Microsoft Jet 4.0 Database 
Engine
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239114/


MartyConnelly wrote:

> Here is the Jet SP-8 file manifest
> Just check by right clicking your Dao360.dll  for property file version
> should be at least Dao360.dll         3.60.8025.0     557,328 bytes
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=829558
>
> You can find again by hunting through general mdac portal for jet
> http://www.microsoft.com/data
>
> Joe Hecht wrote:
>
>> I am reading an article online about Access security and it is 
>> talking about
>> sandbox mode. To get there you need to be using Jet 4 SP 8.
>>
>> I am running AXP on one machine and A2k3 on the other. How do I check 
>> Jet
>> Version and SP release.
>>
>> Here is the article link.
>>
>> http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC011461801033 
>>
>>
>> Joe Hecht
>> Los Angeles CA
>>
>>  
>>
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 25 11:13:01 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:13:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B45@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <42E50F8D.4080504@shaw.ca>

Here is one from Carl Prothman that moved recently however the redirects 
give a 404 error
It is the old able-consulting.com site, that in addition to connection 
strings listings
had an ADO, ADO.Net  and ADOX faq's
http://www.carlprothman.net/

Charlotte Foust wrote:

>Handy, isn't it.  I fell over it a month or so ago too.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
>Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:55 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
>dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
>
>
>I found this:
>
>http://www.connectionstrings.com/
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
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From karenr7 at oz.net  Mon Jul 25 15:57:20 2005
From: karenr7 at oz.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:57:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
In-Reply-To: <000201c5911f$5541b370$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <200507252057.j6PKvJR10993@databaseadvisors.com>

Shall I email you a copy of Darrin's code?

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Inquiring minds want to know how to do this?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:34 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Demo Sent off line
See ya

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Jul 25 15:58:55 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:58:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Dim fm as form or fm as Form_ rmCert
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337716@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <000001c5915b$aef0df40$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I cannot say what exactly is going on, but I can say that...

>I've learned the hard way that whenever I open an instance of Excel EVERY
object variable must be set to nothing because Access cannot be relied upon
to cleanup properly.

No, you need to clean up EVERY object variable regardless of the object
type.  Access' garbage collection is not reliable and you will end up with
all kinds of weird symptoms if you don't clean up behind yourself.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Dim fm as form or fm as Form_ rmCert


In a module I referenced an open form as follows:

dim fm as Form_frmCert 
Set fm = Forms!frmCert
....do stuff using txt values on the form
run Excel, place the text values in ranges on a worksheet
etc
	If Not (wb Is Nothing) Then Set wb = Nothing
    	If Not (fm Is Nothing) Then Set fm = Nothing
	appExcel.Quit
    	Set appExcel = Nothing

When the function finished an instance of Excel was still running.when I
changed the dim statement to read
	dim fm as form
the instance of Excel terminated properly. I've learned the hard way that
whenever I open an instance of Excel EVERY object variable must be set to
nothing because Access cannot be relied upon to cleanup properly. However,
I'm curious what is going on here. Why does fm not go out of scope?

Jim Hale

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Mon Jul 25 16:47:17 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:47:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Why is recordset not updating?
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EAFFB3@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

The table is not getting populated using the following code. I think
addnew and update are messed up somewhere.

 

myds.AddNew

        myds.Fields(0) = myds2.Fields(0)

        myds.Fields(1) = ProdDate

        myds.Fields(2) = myds2.Fields(2)

        If RecordCounter = 1 Then

            myds.AddNew

            myds.Fields(3) = myds2.Fields(2) / 365.25

         Else

            Do Until PriorCumTotInj < myds1.Fields(2)

                FluidType = myds1.Fields(5)

                myds1.MoveNext

            Loop

            myds1.MovePrevious

            If FluidType = "CO2" Then

                myds.Fields(3) = myds1.Fields(2) + PriorCumTotInj

            Else

                myds.Fields(3) = myds1.Fields(3) + PriorCumTotInj

            End If

        End If

        ProdDate = ProdDate + 1

        myds.Update

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Jul 25 16:48:08 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:48:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access SQL
In-Reply-To: <2969.65.196.182.34.1122304596.squirrel@65.196.182.34>
References: <42E38A56.31204.31A380C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42E5EAB8.19757.3AEBF2E7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 25 Jul 2005 at 10:16, Jim Moss wrote:

> You can optionally set the database to use SQL Server compatible syntax
> (ANSI 92) in the options menu.
> 
> 

Only in Access 2002 and above.

-- 
Stuart




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jul 25 17:22:35 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:22:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Why is recordset not updating?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B48@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I think you'll have to post the missing bits of this code before anyone
can say for sure what's happening. Without knowing whether Option
Explicit is on and what your variables are declared as and what myds and
myds2 and myds1 actually represent, we're just guessing.  

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:47 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Why is recordset not updating?


The table is not getting populated using the following code. I think
addnew and update are messed up somewhere.

 

myds.AddNew

        myds.Fields(0) = myds2.Fields(0)

        myds.Fields(1) = ProdDate

        myds.Fields(2) = myds2.Fields(2)

        If RecordCounter = 1 Then

            myds.AddNew

            myds.Fields(3) = myds2.Fields(2) / 365.25

         Else

            Do Until PriorCumTotInj < myds1.Fields(2)

                FluidType = myds1.Fields(5)

                myds1.MoveNext

            Loop

            myds1.MovePrevious

            If FluidType = "CO2" Then

                myds.Fields(3) = myds1.Fields(2) + PriorCumTotInj

            Else

                myds.Fields(3) = myds1.Fields(3) + PriorCumTotInj

            End If

        End If

        ProdDate = ProdDate + 1

        myds.Update

 

Chester Kaup

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Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Jul 25 18:54:28 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:54:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364E3DB@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

HI Karen
Feel free to offer a "Me too" on what I sent you
Just get 'em to send the me too's reply to your 'real' email address

I emailed Joe a copy of what I sent you

See ya

DD
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 6:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Shall I email you a copy of Darrin's code?

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Inquiring minds want to know how to do this?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:34 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Demo Sent off line
See ya

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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Mon Jul 25 19:10:29 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:10:29 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC14@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

But beware!  Some of the strings are specific to commercial offerings.
For example, the postgreSQL string is for the CoreLabs PostgreSQLDirect
.NET Data Provider.  It is not for the vanilla odbc or OLEDB .net
connections.

bruce

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 1:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado

Handy, isn't it.  I fell over it a month or so ago too.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado


I found this:

http://www.connectionstrings.com/

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Mon Jul 25 19:14:18 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:14:18 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC15@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

And p.s. the equivalent postgres connectivity is available GPL'ed
through the npgsql project (sorry no link)
bruce

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bruen, Bruce
Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 10:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado

But beware!  Some of the strings are specific to commercial offerings.
For example, the postgreSQL string is for the CoreLabs PostgreSQLDirect
.NET Data Provider.  It is not for the vanilla odbc or OLEDB .net
connections.

bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 1:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado

Handy, isn't it.  I fell over it a month or so ago too.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado


I found this:

http://www.connectionstrings.com/

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 25 19:17:44 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:17:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
In-Reply-To: <200507252057.j6PKvJR10993@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c59177$72fc24b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Thanks, Darrin already did.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:57 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Shall I email you a copy of Darrin's code?

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Inquiring minds want to know how to do this?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Demo Sent off line
See ya

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From karenr7 at oz.net  Mon Jul 25 19:34:05 2005
From: karenr7 at oz.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:34:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
In-Reply-To: <001a01c59177$72fc24b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <200507260034.j6Q0Y2R30972@databaseadvisors.com>

OK, any me too's, please email me off line at "karenr7 at oz.net" (Spam
blocker -- you all know the drill).

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Thanks, Darrin already did.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:57 PM
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Shall I email you a copy of Darrin's code?

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

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Inquiring minds want to know how to do this?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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Hi Karen
Demo Sent off line
See ya

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Jul 25 20:23:58 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:23:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
In-Reply-To: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC14@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <000601c59180$b65d81f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

LOL, unlikely that I will be finding out any time soon.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bruen, Bruce
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado


But beware!  Some of the strings are specific to commercial offerings. For
example, the postgreSQL string is for the CoreLabs PostgreSQLDirect .NET
Data Provider.  It is not for the vanilla odbc or OLEDB .net connections.

bruce

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Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 1:47 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado

Handy, isn't it.  I fell over it a month or so ago too.

Charlotte Foust


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Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado


I found this:

http://www.connectionstrings.com/

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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Mon Jul 25 21:23:21 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:23:21 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC16@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Watch out John, the OSF is sneaking up behind you!
I am currently using an access FE to a postgres backend which consistes
of extension tables to a commercial modeling tool that uses a Jet bas
backend! (It can also use certain other heavyweight back ends like
SQLServer, but getting the govt to buy an SQL server licence just for
developers.... well.  So we used a postgres backend, cost $0, setup 1
day, functional weight => SQL server)

bruce 

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Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 11:24 AM
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LOL, unlikely that I will be finding out any time soon.

John W. Colby
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Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado


But beware!  Some of the strings are specific to commercial offerings.
For example, the postgreSQL string is for the CoreLabs PostgreSQLDirect
.NET Data Provider.  It is not for the vanilla odbc or OLEDB .net
connections.

bruce

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Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 1:47 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado

Handy, isn't it.  I fell over it a month or so ago too.

Charlotte Foust


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Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado


I found this:

http://www.connectionstrings.com/

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From kimjwiggins at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 22:04:13 2005
From: kimjwiggins at yahoo.com (Kim Wiggins)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:04:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Problem with bookmarks in automation
Message-ID: <20050726030413.33406.qmail@web53609.mail.yahoo.com>


Hey all,

I am really trying to make this word Automation work.  I am using VB to write the code but it will not recognize the bookmarks.  It opens the document and everything like it should but it will not recognize the book mark.  The error I get is this:

the requested member of the collection does not exist

 

It bombs out at the green highlighted code and I can't understand why.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Kim

 

Here is my code 

Private Sub cmdLogEntry_Click()

   ' Declare the variable.

   Dim objWD As Word.Application

   Dim WordDoc As Word.Document

   Dim WordRange As Word.Range

   Dim strPath As String

   

   ' Set the variable (runs new instance of Word.)

   Set objWD = CreateObject("Word.Application")

   

   'make application visible

   objWD.Application.Visible = True

 

   'Get Path of Current DB

    strPath = "C:\AMS\AMS.mdb"

    

   'Strip FileName to Get Path to Doc

    Do

        lngInStr = InStr(lngInStr + 1, strPath, "\")

    Loop While (InStr(lngInStr + 1, strPath, "\") <> 0)

    

    'Get path up to the last ?\?

    strPath = Left(strPath, lngInStr)

    

    'Append document name onto the end of the stripped path

    strPath = strPath & "AirframeTemplate.doc"

    

    'open the word document

    Set doc = objWD.Documents.Open(strPath)

    

    'Insert text into bookmark

     objWD.ActiveDocument.Bookmarks.Item(?AT?).Range.Text = frmAircraftWO.txtAircraftType

 

   ' Quit Word.

    objWD.Quit

    

   ' Clear the variable from memory.

   Set objWD = Nothing

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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 26 05:46:40 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:46:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes
In-Reply-To: <20050726030413.33406.qmail@web53609.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050726104640.24304.qmail@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

What if I have 10 text boxes on a form all across in a row and I wanted to put a box around the first 5 and another box (boarder) around the second 5? This box/border would expand the height of the detail section of each page. 
 
I was thinking of the Me.Line method but don't know how to 
 
1) Just put it around certain boxes 
 
2) How to have more than one line method going on at once.
 
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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 26 05:49:05 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:49:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes
In-Reply-To: <20050726104640.24304.qmail@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050726104905.1720.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am sorry, this is on a report and not a form.

Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com> wrote:What if I have 10 text boxes on a form all across in a row and I wanted to put a box around the first 5 and another box (boarder) around the second 5? This box/border would expand the height of the detail section of each page. 

I was thinking of the Me.Line method but don't know how to 

1) Just put it around certain boxes 

2) How to have more than one line method going on at once.

Thanks.




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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 26 06:53:55 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 04:53:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes
In-Reply-To: <20050726104905.1720.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050726115355.8898.qmail@web31612.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Lonnie,

can give some more details?
So, you want to create a line around textboxes. Do you
want this for all rows?
If so, why not use a rectangle and set the visible
property to true or false?

SD

--- Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am sorry, this is on a report and not a form.
> 
> Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com> wrote:What if I
> have 10 text boxes on a form all across in a row and
> I wanted to put a box around the first 5 and another
> box (boarder) around the second 5? This box/border
> would expand the height of the detail section of
> each page. 
> 
> I was thinking of the Me.Line method but don't know
> how to 
> 
> 1) Just put it around certain boxes 
> 
> 2) How to have more than one line method going on at
> once.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 07:01:42 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:01:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Problem with bookmarks in automation
In-Reply-To: <20050726030413.33406.qmail@web53609.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050726030413.33406.qmail@web53609.mail.yahoo.com>
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On 25/07/05, Kim Wiggins <kimjwiggins at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am really trying to make this word Automation work.  I am using VB to write the code but it will not recognize the bookmarks.  It opens the document and everything like it should but it will not recognize the book mark.  The error I get is this:
> 
> the requested member of the collection does not exist
> 
> It bombs out at the green highlighted code and I can't understand why.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Formatting doesn't come through to the list.

Which line is causing the problem? This one?

>      objWD.ActiveDocument.Bookmarks.Item("AT").Range.Text = frmAircraftWO.txtAircraftType

If so, is AT the name of a bookmark in the main body of the document?
Or is it in a header or footer?

Are you sure the active document the one referenceced in the variable doc?

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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 26 07:52:06 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 05:52:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes
In-Reply-To: <20050726115355.8898.qmail@web31612.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050726125206.56638.qmail@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for responding.
 
If I use the rectangle I only get a box around the textboxes for that line and then another box around the textboxes on the next row. 
 
If I have 10 lines of data, I want one box to show around these text boxes for all ten rows. Sort of like a border for the entire page of detail.
 
Thanks again.

Sad Der <accessd666 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Lonnie,

can give some more details?
So, you want to create a line around textboxes. Do you
want this for all rows?
If so, why not use a rectangle and set the visible
property to true or false?

SD

--- Lonnie Johnson 
wrote:

> I am sorry, this is on a report and not a form.
> 
> Lonnie Johnson 
wrote:What if I
> have 10 text boxes on a form all across in a row and
> I wanted to put a box around the first 5 and another
> box (boarder) around the second 5? This box/border
> would expand the height of the detail section of
> each page. 
> 
> I was thinking of the Me.Line method but don't know
> how to 
> 
> 1) Just put it around certain boxes 
> 
> 2) How to have more than one line method going on at
> once.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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> Databases
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jul 26 09:04:08 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:04:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <008601c591ea$e4714350$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the mouse pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a link, and I used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's own click event.

But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 2-3 lines of code.

MTIA,

Rocky


From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Jul 26 09:14:22 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:14:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337720@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Is this it?
http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0044.htm

Regards,
Jim Hale

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Dear List:

Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the mouse
pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a link, and I
used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's own click event.

But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 2-3
lines of code.

MTIA,

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From Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com  Tue Jul 26 09:17:32 2005
From: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com (Ehlers, Rick)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:17:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
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Rocky,

 I use

	DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
 and
      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends

to change the pointer. Is this what you are thinking of?


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Dear List:

Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the mouse
pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a link,
and I used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's own
click event.

But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 2-3
lines of code.

MTIA,

Rocky
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jul 26 09:41:15 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:41:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337720@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <00b401c591f0$138f1590$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Jim:

It doesn't have the hand pointer pre-defined.  You need it in an icon.  The 
other routine MouseCursor looks like it should change the mouse pointer but 
I there's no comment about the values to pass to it.  experimented with a 
few values but none changed the cursor.

Regards,

Rocky

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From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


> Is this it?
> http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0044.htm
>
> Regards,
> Jim Hale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:04 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the mouse
> pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a link, and 
> I
> used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's own click event.
>
> But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 2-3
> lines of code.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jul 26 09:56:02 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:56:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
References: <A49154D170A54C42BCA71C9770A931E7010DDBFF@excincymb02.cinergy.com>
Message-ID: <00c001c591f2$24264c50$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Rick:

I was looking for that snip that changes the muse pointer into a hand.  I've 
got labels on the main form with OnClick events instead of command buttons 
(which are clunky looking).  I've also got a mouse move event for each one 
already which displays a bit of description of the label's function.

Now, in that mouse move event, I'd like to change the pointer to a hand as a 
visual cue that the label is a clickable link of some sort.  I'm gilding the 
lily here a bit, but it's a consumer product, not a commercial application, 
so it wants a bit of sizzle.

I did this before and it worked real well.  I just can't remember the app I 
built it into so I can't find it again.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ehlers, Rick" <Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


> Rocky,
>
> I use
>
> DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
> and
>      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends
>
> to change the pointer. Is this what you are thinking of?
>
>
> Rick Ehlers
>  Power Services
>  Performance And Valuation
>  Annex - EX510
>  Phone: (513) 287-2047
>  Fax: (513) 287-3698
>  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:04 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
>
> Dear List:
>
> Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the mouse
> pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a link,
> and I used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's own
> click event.
>
> But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 2-3
> lines of code.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 26 10:00:16 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:00:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
Message-ID: <BAY104-F249F5766FEF20EA461B29D9ACD0@phx.gbl>

I'd like to put a demo on my website as a download and have it run for 30 
days, checking the stored date against the system date.  I know I've seen 
this somewhere, but cannot seem to find the code.  Can anyone point me in 
the right direction?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Jul 26 10:04:55 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:04:55 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
Message-ID: <28960735.1122390295037.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

What I tend to do is when they first open the application, store the system date and calculate 30 days in advance and also store this, then you just check the stored date which is 30 days in advance each time they open the app, if you check a stored date against system date, they can always keep changing the date on their machine can't they ?

Paul Hartland





Message date : Jul 26 2005, 04:01 PM
>From : "Julie Reardon-Taylor" 
To : accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
I'd like to put a demo on my website as a download and have it run for 30 
days, checking the stored date against the system date. I know I've seen 
this somewhere, but cannot seem to find the code. Can anyone point me in 
the right direction?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net


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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jul 26 10:06:16 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:06:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F137772AB@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I think the simplest way to do this is to enter some text (anything will do)
into the label's Hyperlink address property. You will then have to adjust
the font underline property (which will have been automatically to 'Yes')
and the forecolor property( which will have changed to a blue color).

But after that you get the hand icon and there's zero code required.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


Rick:

I was looking for that snip that changes the muse pointer into a hand.  I've

got labels on the main form with OnClick events instead of command buttons 
(which are clunky looking).  I've also got a mouse move event for each one 
already which displays a bit of description of the label's function.

Now, in that mouse move event, I'd like to change the pointer to a hand as a

visual cue that the label is a clickable link of some sort.  I'm gilding the

lily here a bit, but it's a consumer product, not a commercial application, 
so it wants a bit of sizzle.

I did this before and it worked real well.  I just can't remember the app I 
built it into so I can't find it again.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ehlers, Rick" <Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


> Rocky,
>
> I use
>
> DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
> and
>      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends
>
> to change the pointer. Is this what you are thinking of?
>
>
> Rick Ehlers
>  Power Services
>  Performance And Valuation
>  Annex - EX510
>  Phone: (513) 287-2047
>  Fax: (513) 287-3698
>  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:04 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
>
> Dear List:
>
> Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the 
> mouse pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a 
> link, and I used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's 
> own click event.
>
> But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 
> 2-3 lines of code.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jul 26 10:08:31 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:08:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F137772AF@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Oops. Not quite that simple. You get the icon, the click event will fire,
but then Access tries to action the hyperlink too. How to turn that off?

-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


I think the simplest way to do this is to enter some text (anything will do)
into the label's Hyperlink address property. You will then have to adjust
the font underline property (which will have been automatically to 'Yes')
and the forecolor property( which will have changed to a blue color).

But after that you get the hand icon and there's zero code required.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


Rick:

I was looking for that snip that changes the muse pointer into a hand.  I've

got labels on the main form with OnClick events instead of command buttons 
(which are clunky looking).  I've also got a mouse move event for each one 
already which displays a bit of description of the label's function.

Now, in that mouse move event, I'd like to change the pointer to a hand as a

visual cue that the label is a clickable link of some sort.  I'm gilding the

lily here a bit, but it's a consumer product, not a commercial application, 
so it wants a bit of sizzle.

I did this before and it worked real well.  I just can't remember the app I 
built it into so I can't find it again.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ehlers, Rick" <Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


> Rocky,
>
> I use
>
> DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
> and
>      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends
>
> to change the pointer. Is this what you are thinking of?
>
>
> Rick Ehlers
>  Power Services
>  Performance And Valuation
>  Annex - EX510
>  Phone: (513) 287-2047
>  Fax: (513) 287-3698
>  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:04 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
>
> Dear List:
>
> Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the
> mouse pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a 
> link, and I used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's 
> own click event.
>
> But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only
> 2-3 lines of code.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Tue Jul 26 10:10:12 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:10:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
In-Reply-To: <00b401c591f0$138f1590$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <000a01c591f4$2034dbf0$2e01a8c0@dorismanning>

Screen.MousePointer is what you use to change the mouse pointer.  You pass
it the index of the icon you want but I don't off the top of my head know
what the Link icon's index is.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand

Jim:

It doesn't have the hand pointer pre-defined.  You need it in an icon.  The 
other routine MouseCursor looks like it should change the mouse pointer but 
I there's no comment about the values to pass to it.  experimented with a 
few values but none changed the cursor.

Regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


> Is this it?
> http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0044.htm
>
> Regards,
> Jim Hale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:04 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the mouse
> pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a link, and

> I
> used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's own click event.
>
> But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 2-3
> lines of code.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
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From darsant at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 10:12:36 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:12:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
In-Reply-To: <28960735.1122390295037.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
References: <28960735.1122390295037.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a05072608123c2aad6c@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/26/05, paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> wrote:
> What I tend to do is when they first open the application, store the system date and calculate 30 days in advance and also store this, then you just check the stored date which is 30 days in advance each time they open the app, if you check a stored date against system date, they can always keep changing the date on their machine can't they ?
> 
> Paul Hartland

The optimum solution I can think of is to have the two fields you
mentioned, and use them as sort of a between statement in which it can
run. First time the program opens, it sets both dates.

Next time the user opens the application, first it checks to make sure
the current date is between those dates, and if it is, it updates the
current system date with the new value. This way, the date window that
the program can be opened in slowly expires as time progresses.

If the user sets their computer to day X  time Y after they got the
App but before their last use time,  the start time is already after
the current time, and the program cannot open.

-- 
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-Albert Einstein


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Jul 26 10:21:13 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:21:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C37EED@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED69@ADGSERVER>

Rick,

If you want to get away from the docmd function, you can use:
Screen.mousepointer=11 to turn on the busy icon
And
Screen.mousepointer=0 to set it back to the regular pointer.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ehlers, Rick
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


Rocky,

 I use

	DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
 and
      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends

to change the pointer. Is this what you are thinking of?


Rick Ehlers



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul 26 10:21:42 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:21:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Conversion to Express
Message-ID: <20050726152145.LCSW14543.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm interested in published or personal experience with converting Access to
the new SQL Server Express beta. Right now, with its lack of tools, I doubt
there's much on the subject. If you run across anything, you might remember
me with a quick link. Thanks!
 
Susan H. 


From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jul 26 10:28:31 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:28:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F137772D3@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

OK. I got it, this time using the API route. Put this code in a module...

Public Const HandCursor = 32649&

Declare Function LoadCursorBynum Lib "user32" Alias "LoadCursorA" _
 (ByVal hInstance As Long, ByVal lpCursorName As Long) As Long

Declare Function SetCursor Lib "user32" (ByVal hCursor As Long) As Long

Function MouseCursor(CursorType As Long)
Dim lngRet As Long
    lngRet = LoadCursorBynum(0&, CursorType)
    lngRet = SetCursor(lngRet)
End Function

...Then all you need is a MouseMove event for the label which reads...

    MouseCursor HandCursor

Access will automatically restore the default cursor when you move out of
the label's area.

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


Rick:

I was looking for that snip that changes the muse pointer into a hand.  I've

got labels on the main form with OnClick events instead of command buttons 
(which are clunky looking).  I've also got a mouse move event for each one 
already which displays a bit of description of the label's function.

Now, in that mouse move event, I'd like to change the pointer to a hand as a

visual cue that the label is a clickable link of some sort.  I'm gilding the

lily here a bit, but it's a consumer product, not a commercial application, 
so it wants a bit of sizzle.

I did this before and it worked real well.  I just can't remember the app I 
built it into so I can't find it again.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ehlers, Rick" <Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


> Rocky,
>
> I use
>
> DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
> and
>      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends
>
> to change the pointer. Is this what you are thinking of?
>
>
> Rick Ehlers
>  Power Services
>  Performance And Valuation
>  Annex - EX510
>  Phone: (513) 287-2047
>  Fax: (513) 287-3698
>  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:04 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
>
> Dear List:
>
> Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the 
> mouse pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a 
> link, and I used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's 
> own click event.
>
> But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 
> 2-3 lines of code.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 26 10:43:45 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:43:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
In-Reply-To: <53c8e05a05072608123c2aad6c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F3780C9C52E62A7279B13B89ACD0@phx.gbl>

Thanks Josh!



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Jul 26 10:47:43 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:47:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCCC@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Is Google down all over the country?  This is like killing Kenny (South
Park).  What the....  no way.


From mikedorism at verizon.net  Tue Jul 26 10:51:57 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:51:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCCC@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <000d01c591f9$f5323640$2e01a8c0@dorismanning>

It is working fine for me.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT

Is Google down all over the country?  This is like killing Kenny (South
Park).  What the....  no way.
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From Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com  Tue Jul 26 10:51:07 2005
From: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com (Ehlers, Rick)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:51:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT
Message-ID: <A49154D170A54C42BCA71C9770A931E7010DDCF2@excincymb02.cinergy.com>

Mine works. 


Rick Ehlers
  Power Services
  Performance And Valuation
  Annex - EX510
  Phone: (513) 287-2047
  Fax: (513) 287-3698
  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT

Is Google down all over the country?  This is like killing Kenny (South
Park).  What the....  no way.
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 10:51:31 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:51:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCCC@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCCC@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <e04a6c9205072608512c33805b@mail.gmail.com>

On 26/07/05, Nicholson, Karen <cyx5 at cdc.gov> wrote:
> Is Google down all over the country?  This is like killing Kenny (South
> Park).  What the....  no way.

I can get to and search with both Google.com and google.ca with no problems.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at gmail.com
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Jul 26 10:54:55 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:54:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCCD@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Must just be us.  I am putting in a call to our Help Desk in Atlanta. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT

On 26/07/05, Nicholson, Karen <cyx5 at cdc.gov> wrote:
> Is Google down all over the country?  This is like killing Kenny 
> (South Park).  What the....  no way.

I can get to and search with both Google.com and google.ca with no
problems.

--
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved
body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "What a
great ride!"
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Jul 26 11:00:14 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:00:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCCE@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

It is the government.  The poor IT guy in Atlanta is getting flooded
with calls.  This IT department is by far the best, most efficient,
responsive and polite team I have ever had the pleasure to work with.
They kick butt.  I am sure they will solve the problem.  I was just in
utter shock. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ehlers, Rick
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT

Mine works. 


Rick Ehlers
  Power Services
  Performance And Valuation
  Annex - EX510
  Phone: (513) 287-2047
  Fax: (513) 287-3698
  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com

-----Original Message-----
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Karen
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:48 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT

Is Google down all over the country?  This is like killing Kenny (South
Park).  What the....  no way.
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Tue Jul 26 11:57:58 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David Mcafee)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:57:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
In-Reply-To: <00c001c591f2$24264c50$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <20050726165758.5801.qmail@web80801.mail.yahoo.com>

Rocky, I think it was my "main menu" smaple that I
sent you. I think I still have a copy. Let me look. If
I have it, I'll send it to you off the list.

David McAfee

--- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
<bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:

> Rick:
> 
> I was looking for that snip that changes the muse
> pointer into a hand.  I've 
> got labels on the main form with OnClick events
> instead of command buttons 
> (which are clunky looking).  I've also got a mouse
> move event for each one 
> already which displays a bit of description of the
> label's function.
> 
> Now, in that mouse move event, I'd like to change
> the pointer to a hand as a 
> visual cue that the label is a clickable link of
> some sort.  I'm gilding the 
> lily here a bit, but it's a consumer product, not a
> commercial application, 
> so it wants a bit of sizzle.
> 
> I did this before and it worked real well.  I just
> can't remember the app I 
> built it into so I can't find it again.
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Rocky
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ehlers, Rick" <Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:17 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
> 
> 
> > Rocky,
> >
> > I use
> >
> > DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
> > and
> >      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends
> >
> > to change the pointer. Is this what you are
> thinking of?
> >
> >
> > Rick Ehlers
> >  Power Services
> >  Performance And Valuation
> >  Annex - EX510
> >  Phone: (513) 287-2047
> >  Fax: (513) 287-3698
> >  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> > - Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:04 AM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some
> code to turn the mouse
> > pointer into the hand which now indicated you're
> hovering over a link,
> > and I used it in the mouse move event of a label
> which had it's own
> > click event.
> >
> > But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that? 
> It was, IIRC, only 2-3
> > lines of code.
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky
> > --
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> >
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From Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com  Tue Jul 26 12:00:18 2005
From: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com (Ehlers, Rick)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:00:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <A49154D170A54C42BCA71C9770A931E7010DDD4B@excincymb02.cinergy.com>

Lambert,

 Do you have other cursor listings or tell me where to find them? This
is cool. Now I've got about 10 apps to update. That should keep me busy
for a while ;-)

 Thanks.


Rick Ehlers
  Power Services
  Performance And Valuation
  Annex - EX510
  Phone: (513) 287-2047
  Fax: (513) 287-3698
  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand

OK. I got it, this time using the API route. Put this code in a
module...

Public Const HandCursor = 32649&

Declare Function LoadCursorBynum Lib "user32" Alias "LoadCursorA" _
(ByVal hInstance As Long, ByVal lpCursorName As Long) As Long

Declare Function SetCursor Lib "user32" (ByVal hCursor As Long) As Long

Function MouseCursor(CursorType As Long) Dim lngRet As Long
    lngRet = LoadCursorBynum(0&, CursorType)
    lngRet = SetCursor(lngRet)
End Function

...Then all you need is a MouseMove event for the label which reads...

    MouseCursor HandCursor

Access will automatically restore the default cursor when you move out
of the label's area.

Lambert


From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Tue Jul 26 12:03:10 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David Mcafee)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:03:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
In-Reply-To: <20050726165758.5801.qmail@web80801.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050726170310.7138.qmail@web80801.mail.yahoo.com>

found it, sent it

--- David Mcafee <dmcafee at pacbell.net> wrote:

> Rocky, I think it was my "main menu" smaple that I
> sent you. I think I still have a copy. Let me look.
> If
> I have it, I'll send it to you off the list.
> 
> David McAfee
> 
> --- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> > Rick:
> > 
> > I was looking for that snip that changes the muse
> > pointer into a hand.  I've 
> > got labels on the main form with OnClick events
> > instead of command buttons 
> > (which are clunky looking).  I've also got a mouse
> > move event for each one 
> > already which displays a bit of description of the
> > label's function.
> > 
> > Now, in that mouse move event, I'd like to change
> > the pointer to a hand as a 
> > visual cue that the label is a clickable link of
> > some sort.  I'm gilding the 
> > lily here a bit, but it's a consumer product, not
> a
> > commercial application, 
> > so it wants a bit of sizzle.
> > 
> > I did this before and it worked real well.  I just
> > can't remember the app I 
> > built it into so I can't find it again.
> > 
> > Thanks and regards,
> > 
> > Rocky
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ehlers, Rick" <Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> > solving" 
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:17 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
> > 
> > 
> > > Rocky,
> > >
> > > I use
> > >
> > > DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
> > > and
> > >      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends
> > >
> > > to change the pointer. Is this what you are
> > thinking of?
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick Ehlers
> > >  Power Services
> > >  Performance And Valuation
> > >  Annex - EX510
> > >  Phone: (513) 287-2047
> > >  Fax: (513) 287-3698
> > >  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> > Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> > > - Beach Access Software
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:04 AM
> > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
> > >
> > > Dear List:
> > >
> > > Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me
> some
> > code to turn the mouse
> > > pointer into the hand which now indicated you're
> > hovering over a link,
> > > and I used it in the mouse move event of a label
> > which had it's own
> > > click event.
> > >
> > > But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?
> 
> > It was, IIRC, only 2-3
> > > lines of code.
> > >
> > > MTIA,
> > >
> > > Rocky
> > > --
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> >
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > -- 
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> > >
> >
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> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > 
> > 
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> >
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> > 
> 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jul 26 12:17:43 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:17:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
References: <28960735.1122390295037.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
	<53c8e05a05072608123c2aad6c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010c01c59205$ef560150$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

I store the state each time they start the system.  If the system date is 
ever earlier than the last time they started it (indicating that they moved 
the system date back to try to get a few more days' use) I give them a 
message that says they need to adjust the clock in the computer and quit the 
app.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Josh McFarlane" <darsant at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days


> On 7/26/05, paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> wrote:
>> What I tend to do is when they first open the application, store the 
>> system date and calculate 30 days in advance and also store this, then 
>> you just check the stored date which is 30 days in advance each time they 
>> open the app, if you check a stored date against system date, they can 
>> always keep changing the date on their machine can't they ?
>>
>> Paul Hartland
>
> The optimum solution I can think of is to have the two fields you
> mentioned, and use them as sort of a between statement in which it can
> run. First time the program opens, it sets both dates.
>
> Next time the user opens the application, first it checks to make sure
> the current date is between those dates, and if it is, it updates the
> current system date with the new value. This way, the date window that
> the program can be opened in slowly expires as time progresses.
>
> If the user sets their computer to day X  time Y after they got the
> App but before their last use time,  the start time is already after
> the current time, and the program cannot open.
>
> -- 
> Josh McFarlane
> "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
> -Albert Einstein
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jul 26 12:19:21 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:19:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1377733F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I found this listing of constants on the Access Web
(http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0044.htm)

Public Const IDC_APPSTARTING = 32650&
Public Const IDC_HAND = 32649&
Public Const IDC_ARROW = 32512&
Public Const IDC_CROSS = 32515&
Public Const IDC_IBEAM = 32513&
Public Const IDC_ICON = 32641&
Public Const IDC_NO = 32648&
Public Const IDC_SIZE = 32640&
Public Const IDC_SIZEALL = 32646&
Public Const IDC_SIZENESW = 32643&
Public Const IDC_SIZENS = 32645&
Public Const IDC_SIZENWSE = 32642&
Public Const IDC_SIZEWE = 32644&
Public Const IDC_UPARROW = 32516&
Public Const IDC_WAIT = 32514&


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ehlers, Rick
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


Lambert,

 Do you have other cursor listings or tell me where to find them? This is
cool. Now I've got about 10 apps to update. That should keep me busy for a
while ;-)

 Thanks.


Rick Ehlers
  Power Services
  Performance And Valuation
  Annex - EX510
  Phone: (513) 287-2047
  Fax: (513) 287-3698
  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand

OK. I got it, this time using the API route. Put this code in a module...

Public Const HandCursor = 32649&

Declare Function LoadCursorBynum Lib "user32" Alias "LoadCursorA" _ (ByVal
hInstance As Long, ByVal lpCursorName As Long) As Long

Declare Function SetCursor Lib "user32" (ByVal hCursor As Long) As Long

Function MouseCursor(CursorType As Long) Dim lngRet As Long
    lngRet = LoadCursorBynum(0&, CursorType)
    lngRet = SetCursor(lngRet)
End Function

...Then all you need is a MouseMove event for the label which reads...

    MouseCursor HandCursor

Access will automatically restore the default cursor when you move out of
the label's area.

Lambert
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jul 26 13:01:21 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:01:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
References: <28960735.1122390295037.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
	<53c8e05a05072608123c2aad6c@mail.gmail.com>
	<010c01c59205$ef560150$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <01de01c5920c$0812f490$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

The date.  I store the date, not the state.  The date.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days


>I store the state each time they start the system.  If the system date is 
>ever earlier than the last time they started it (indicating that they moved 
>the system date back to try to get a few more days' use) I give them a 
>message that says they need to adjust the clock in the computer and quit 
>the app.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Josh McFarlane" <darsant at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
>
>
>> On 7/26/05, paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> wrote:
>>> What I tend to do is when they first open the application, store the 
>>> system date and calculate 30 days in advance and also store this, then 
>>> you just check the stored date which is 30 days in advance each time 
>>> they open the app, if you check a stored date against system date, they 
>>> can always keep changing the date on their machine can't they ?
>>>
>>> Paul Hartland
>>
>> The optimum solution I can think of is to have the two fields you
>> mentioned, and use them as sort of a between statement in which it can
>> run. First time the program opens, it sets both dates.
>>
>> Next time the user opens the application, first it checks to make sure
>> the current date is between those dates, and if it is, it updates the
>> current system date with the new value. This way, the date window that
>> the program can be opened in slowly expires as time progresses.
>>
>> If the user sets their computer to day X  time Y after they got the
>> App but before their last use time,  the start time is already after
>> the current time, and the program cannot open.
>>
>> -- 
>> Josh McFarlane
>> "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by 
>> understanding."
>> -Albert Einstein
>> -- 
>> AccessD mailing list
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Jul 26 13:06:00 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:06:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCCC@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <42E67B88.8000703@shaw.ca>

Your ISP could have problems with DNS server or DNS Cache poisoning
Try going to the google IP numeric address directly skipping DNS, This 
address may change.
http://64.233.167.147/

You can track the ip address down from sites like http://www.dnsstuff.com
you may have to use their route search via their copy of tracecrt.

Nicholson, Karen wrote:

>Is Google down all over the country?  This is like killing Kenny (South
>Park).  What the....  no way.
>  
>

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Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Jul 26 13:43:41 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:43:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Conversion to Express
References: <20050726152145.LCSW14543.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <42E6845D.7090007@shaw.ca>

Not too much on actual conversion but maybe something here in these MS 
and MSDN blogs
although lots on actual connection of the Access and Express.
 A lot of these sites do not appear to be open to Google or other search 
engines.

FAQ: How to connect to SQL Express from "downlevel clients"(Access 2003, 
VS 2003, VB 6, etc
 http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2004/07/23/192044.aspx

You will find this EM tool helpful for conversion of Access (released 
last month).

Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Manager - Community Technology Preview 
June 2005
(New replacement for SQL Enterprise Manager)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=C7A5CC62-EC54-4299-85FC-BA05C181ED55&displaylang=en

Visual Studio Express Editions  MSDN forums
http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=24

Securing Your SQL Server 2005 Express Edition Server
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsse/html/ssesecurity.asp

Connecting Access and SQL Express 2005
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/

SMO Replaces SQL-DMO
http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/40993/40993.html?Ad=1

Silly Billy's have turned of search function for upgrades to this newsgroup

microsoft.private.sqlserver2005.express
http://communities.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.asp?icp=sqlserver2005&slcid=us

One interesting post on this newsgroup
Just in passing concerning future design
about ADP's from Access 2003 on down that will not play fair with SQL 
Server 2005 Express (replacement for MSDE).

Re: Access 2002 and SQL Express
From:  "Mary Chipman [MSFT]" <mchip at online.microsoft.com> Sent:  
8/20/2004 11:30:58 AM

You will not be able to use any of the designers with SQLS 2005
databases, whether it's SQL Express or the Developer edition. IOW, you
won't be able to create databases, tables, views or any other database
objects from an ADP. The only support that is envisioned is that you
will be able to connect an Access front-end to a SQLS 2005 back end if
it is running in SQLS 2000 compatibility mode, so your forms, reports
and other local Access objects should still run. There is no service
pack or quick fix being planned as far as I know because of the amount
of work it would entail. If you stop to think about it, it's pretty
hard to see how accomodating new Yukon features like CLR assemblies
and complex data types in the ADP designers could be achieved without
a complete rewrite.

--Mary Chipman

The problem has been know about for some time. SQL Server 2005 is a 
major rewrite and at the time they began development they decided they 
would not provide access to its features from Access and ADPs mainly 
becasue they view Access as a power user application - STILL. Lot of 
.NET stuff built into SQLS erver 2005 and they figured it wasnt worth 
the cost or effort to rewrite the ADP functionality in Access to deal 
with this.



Susan Harkins wrote:

>I'm interested in published or personal experience with converting Access to
>the new SQL Server Express beta. Right now, with its lack of tools, I doubt
>there's much on the subject. If you run across anything, you might remember
>me with a quick link. Thanks!
> 
>Susan H. 
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Tue Jul 26 14:46:11 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:46:11 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5D75@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Hi group
 
Can someone advise me some ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software that
connects with an MDB or SQL server?
-by preferation free software or at low price (Source included)
-supports multilanguage 
 
 
thx
 

 

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul 26 15:32:59 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:32:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Conversion to Express
In-Reply-To: <42E6845D.7090007@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <20050726203320.QARV14543.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Thanks Marty -- I'll take a look!

Susan H. 

Not too much on actual conversion but maybe something here in these MS and
MSDN blogs although lots on actual connection of the Access and Express.
 A lot of these sites do not appear to be open to Google or other search
engines.

FAQ: How to connect to SQL Express from "downlevel clients"(Access 2003, VS
2003, VB 6, etc
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2004/07/23/192044.aspx

You will find this EM tool helpful for conversion of Access (released last
month).

Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Manager - Community Technology Preview
June 2005 (New replacement for SQL Enterprise Manager)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=C7A5CC62-EC54-4299-
85FC-BA05C181ED55&displaylang=en

Visual Studio Express Editions  MSDN forums
http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=24

Securing Your SQL Server 2005 Express Edition Server
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsse/html/
ssesecurity.asp

Connecting Access and SQL Express 2005
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/

SMO Replaces SQL-DMO
http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/40993/40993.html?Ad=1

Silly Billy's have turned of search function for upgrades to this newsgroup

microsoft.private.sqlserver2005.express
http://communities.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.asp?icp=sqlserver2005&sl
cid=us

One interesting post on this newsgroup
Just in passing concerning future design about ADP's from Access 2003 on
down that will not play fair with SQL Server 2005 Express (replacement for
MSDE).

Re: Access 2002 and SQL Express
From:  "Mary Chipman [MSFT]" <mchip at online.microsoft.com> Sent:  
8/20/2004 11:30:58 AM

You will not be able to use any of the designers with SQLS 2005 databases,
whether it's SQL Express or the Developer edition. IOW, you won't be able to
create databases, tables, views or any other database objects from an ADP.
The only support that is envisioned is that you will be able to connect an
Access front-end to a SQLS 2005 back end if it is running in SQLS 2000
compatibility mode, so your forms, reports and other local Access objects
should still run. There is no service pack or quick fix being planned as far
as I know because of the amount of work it would entail. If you stop to
think about it, it's pretty hard to see how accomodating new Yukon features
like CLR assemblies and complex data types in the ADP designers could be
achieved without a complete rewrite.

--Mary Chipman

The problem has been know about for some time. SQL Server 2005 is a major
rewrite and at the time they began development they decided they would not
provide access to its features from Access and ADPs mainly becasue they view
Access as a power user application - STILL. Lot of .NET stuff built into
SQLS erver 2005 and they figured it wasnt worth the cost or effort to
rewrite the ADP functionality in Access to deal with this.



Susan Harkins wrote:

>I'm interested in published or personal experience with converting 
>Access to the new SQL Server Express beta. Right now, with its lack of 
>tools, I doubt there's much on the subject. If you run across anything, 
>you might remember me with a quick link. Thanks!
> 
>Susan H. 
>  
>

--
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From Jeff at outbaktech.com  Tue Jul 26 15:58:48 2005
From: Jeff at outbaktech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:58:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cross Posted:  Looking for a .NET developer near Neenah,
	WI
Message-ID: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D0D9137@belgarion.Outbak.local>

Anybody looking for a .NET contract (12 months +)?????
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com


From kimjwiggins at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 26 16:16:47 2005
From: kimjwiggins at yahoo.com (Kim Wiggins)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:16:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Problem with bookmarks in automation
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c9205072605011e40d3ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050726211647.64170.qmail@web53601.mail.yahoo.com>

Bryan, thanks but I found the problem.  It was odd quotes that I had around the bookmark that was causing it not to recognize the bookmark.  I have corrected it and it works.  Thanks

Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com> wrote:On 25/07/05, Kim Wiggins wrote:

> I am really trying to make this word Automation work. I am using VB to write the code but it will not recognize the bookmarks. It opens the document and everything like it should but it will not recognize the book mark. The error I get is this:
> 
> the requested member of the collection does not exist
> 
> It bombs out at the green highlighted code and I can't understand why. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Formatting doesn't come through to the list.

Which line is causing the problem? This one?

> objWD.ActiveDocument.Bookmarks.Item("AT").Range.Text = frmAircraftWO.txtAircraftType

If so, is AT the name of a bookmark in the main body of the document?
Or is it in a header or footer?

Are you sure the active document the one referenceced in the variable doc?

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Jul 26 19:57:14 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:57:14 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
References: <000a01c58e62$be555610$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805><BAY103-DAV627EDA34DF58782227F54AEC90@phx.gbl><002901c590ab$8fe53de0$6601a8c0@user>
	<BAY103-DAV515AE9B1C3C3EAFD756FCAECA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00b501c59246$20f72140$6601a8c0@user>

...hhmmm....thinking over the pros and cons.....I am getting very tired of clients changing office versions etc etc and having the app crash. 

And I am getting very sick of setting refs and finding that some users end up with it missing - whoops - crash again. So runtime should solve both those issues?

On the other hand, with my main client (using full Access install) I can get straight on to their PC online using VNC, make a change to the mdb, recreate the mde and post it to the network from where it gets automatically downloaded the next time all users open it.

That would be much harder with runtime, wouldn't it? How do you distribute upgrades?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..yes ...lessons learned the hard way ...give a client full Access and 
  "things" happen ...bad things ..."upgrade" that client to the newest version 
  of Office Standard (w/runtime) rather than Office Pro and save them a lot of 
  money ...its amazing how many strange happenings stop happening to your apps 
  :(

  William

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  <<how does anyone that actually supports distributed
  Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having full
  Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve first

  William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: William Hindman
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing around
    VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name is
    similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports 
  cleanly,
    at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

    ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports distributed
    Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having 
  full
    Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve 
  first
    :(

    William

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
    To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
    <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
    Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    > William,
    >
    > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in the
    > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes.  The
    > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the controls, 
  the
    > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual
    > Studio.
    >
    > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have 
  never
    > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even 
  purchased
    > it
    > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is very
    > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
    >
    > John W. Colby
    > www.ColbyConsulting.com
    >
    > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
    > http://folding.stanford.edu/
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William 
  Hindman
    > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
    > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
    >
    >
    > JC
    >
    > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio
    > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of VB.net 
  in
    > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the
    > VBExpress route instead?
    >
    > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
    >
    > William
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
    > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
    > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
    > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
    > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
    >
    >
    >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
    >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE
    >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels
    >> almost identical to the
    >> Visual Studio however.
    >>
    >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
    >>
    >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
    >> available.
    >> I
    >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
    >> videos
    >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they 
  would
    >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty 
  quickly,
    >> and
    >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show
    >> you
    >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so 
  far)
    >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
    >>
    >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
    >> video series right now.
    >>
    >> John W. Colby
    >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
    >>
    >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
    >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
    >>
    >>
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From Jeff at outbaktech.com  Tue Jul 26 21:27:15 2005
From: Jeff at outbaktech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:27:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: [dba-OT] Cross Posted: Looking for a .NET developer
	near Neenah, WI
Message-ID: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D014B44@belgarion.Outbak.local>

Sorry, I should have been more specific.

I was contacted by a recruiter who is looking for a .NET developer
looking for a long term contract in Neenah, WI.  The company is looking
for 10 years experience in IT and at least 2 years experience with .NET.
I was told that they are willing to relax their requirements a little
for a 'local boy (or girl).

If anyone is interested, please contact me off-list and I will send
additional information, including the recruiters name and contact
information.

Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:dba-ot-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:59 PM
To: dba-OT; Dba-Tech; dba-VB; AccessD
Subject: [dba-OT] Cross Posted: Looking for a .NET developer near
Neenah, WI

Anybody looking for a .NET contract (12 months +)?????
 
Jeff Barrows
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From vrm at tim-cms.com  Wed Jul 27 01:58:51 2005
From: vrm at tim-cms.com (| Marcel Vreuls)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:58:51 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5D75@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <003001c59278$a5319cb0$6c61fea9@GALAXY.local>

Hi Erwin,

I have a ASP.NET and VB.NET ecommerce store with support multilanguage and
is skinnalbe. After a year of development I am selling it for about 5 months
now. Take a look at the store where are building right now
http://topparts.7host.com . In most cases i do not sell the source because i
invested a lot of time in it. I have two companies in holland who would like
to have the source also and we come to an agreement about it. My main
concern is that my customers are going to resell the software so this is
what i would like to prevent. Just let me know what you think about it

Marcel 

(ps. as i live in holland you can contact me offline in dutch if that is
easier for you (vrm at tim-cms.com). 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Erwin Craps -
IT Helps
Sent: dinsdag 26 juli 2005 21:46
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software


Hi group
 
Can someone advise me some ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software that
connects with an MDB or SQL server?
-by preferation free software or at low price (Source included)
-supports multilanguage 
 
 
thx
 

 

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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Wed Jul 27 01:58:05 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:28:05 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Find a record in table with intervals
References: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EAFE7E@houexch1.kindermorgan.co m>
Message-ID: <00a201c59278$b54a1870$431865cb@winxp>

Chester,

    Sample query given below should get you the latest prevailing value on a given date. 

    T_PriceIndex is the master table showing the price on different dates, while T_PriceCurrent is the table having dates for which the latest prevailing price is required.

    For each date in table T_PriceCurrent, calculated field named PriceCurrent in the sample query gives the latest prevailing price (as collected from T_PriceIndex).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

===================================
SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate, (Select Price From T_PriceIndex As T1 Where T1.SDate = (Select Max(SDate) From T_PriceIndex As T2 Where T2.SDate <= T_PriceCurrent.SDate)) AS PriceCurrent 
FROM T_PriceCurrent;
===================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kaup, Chester 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 20:19
  Subject: [AccessD] FW: Find a record in table with intervals


  I have table (table1) with dates and a value associated with the date.

  For example 

  1/1/2001                  20

  7/13/2003                27

  12/26/2003              31

  6/4/2004                  33

  1/13/2005                40

  6/7/2005                  44 

  I have another table (table 2) with values in it also. Using the date in this table I need to find the value in table one that would be correct for that date. It is assumed the value in table one carries forward until the date changes. The value associated with the last date carries forward forever. 

  For example a date of 10/13/2004 should return a value of 33. I was able to achieve the desired result with several if then else and do loops but was hoping for a better solution. Was hoping for something like the vlookup function in Excel. 

  Thanks. 

  Chester Kaup
  Engineering Technician
  Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
  Office (432) 688-3797



From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 27 08:15:25 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:15:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Cross Posted: Looking for a .NET developer near Neenah,
	WI
In-Reply-To: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D0D9137@belgarion.Outbak.local>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F2286932E56363CCD82DE289ACC0@phx.gbl>

Does it have to be local?




From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Jul 27 08:21:49 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:21:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Cross Posted: Looking for a .NET developer near Neenah,
	WI
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCE0@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

What type of .net?  vb.net, asp.net? 

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Does it have to be local?


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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jul 27 08:32:47 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:32:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
In-Reply-To: <003001c59278$a5319cb0$6c61fea9@GALAXY.local>
Message-ID: <200507271332.j6RDWsR14371@databaseadvisors.com>

My Dutch is pretty shaky (I know only about 5 words, of which my favourite
is the word for vacuum cleaner) so I will respond in English. In a situation
such as this (assuming the good intentions of the client), what the client
is primarily concerned about is what happens should you get run over by a
tram or meet some similar demise. What you are concerned about is protecting
your source code. To protect both parties, you place the source code in
escrow, which means in the hands of a disinterested party. Should the tram
kill you, the client gets the code. Should you avoid collisions with a tram,
your source code is safe.

Arthur

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of | Marcel Vreuls
Sent: July 27, 2005 2:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software

Hi Erwin,

I have a ASP.NET and VB.NET ecommerce store with support multilanguage and
is skinnalbe. After a year of development I am selling it for about 5 months
now. Take a look at the store where are building right now
http://topparts.7host.com . In most cases i do not sell the source because i
invested a lot of time in it. I have two companies in holland who would like
to have the source also and we come to an agreement about it. My main
concern is that my customers are going to resell the software so this is
what i would like to prevent. Just let me know what you think about it

Marcel 

(ps. as i live in holland you can contact me offline in dutch if that is
easier for you (vrm at tim-cms.com). 



From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Wed Jul 27 09:36:39 2005
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:36:39 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077801087D@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit




From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 27 10:00:17 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:00:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
In-Reply-To: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077801087D@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <0IKA0032HKCFJG@l-daemon>

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id number
and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually place the new
record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Wed Jul 27 10:06:31 2005
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:06:31 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF48607780579B605@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From ldoering at symphonyinfo.com  Wed Jul 27 10:20:22 2005
From: ldoering at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:20:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082FD7@dewey.Symphony.local>

Mike,

I've worked around this by saving the record to actually generate the
ID, then querying on some other known parameters to retrieve it.  Then
you will get back the ID you are looking for.

If there is a better method, I would like to know!

Liz



 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Wed Jul 27 10:23:32 2005
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:23:32 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF48607780579B606@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

Yeah that wouldn't work for me, I really don't have any other parameter
that I could query on to get the ID.  There could be upwards of 10
people entering data at the same time and on the same person.

I hope someone has a way to do this.

Thanks, 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:ldoering at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Mike,

I've worked around this by saving the record to actually generate the
ID, then querying on some other known parameters to retrieve it.  Then
you will get back the ID you are looking for.

If there is a better method, I would like to know!

Liz



 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Jul 27 10:28:44 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:28:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCE8@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I am doing the exact same thing right now.  What I have done is to put a
field on the form (and in its datasource) with a time stamp.  As it is
being written to the new table, I am taking that time stamp right along
with it.  Then I am returning that value to my form based on time =
time.  Does that make sense?  Once I get it coded, I will post it. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Yeah that wouldn't work for me, I really don't have any other parameter
that I could query on to get the ID.  There could be upwards of 10
people entering data at the same time and on the same person.

I hope someone has a way to do this.

Thanks, 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:ldoering at symphonyinfo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Mike,

I've worked around this by saving the record to actually generate the
ID, then querying on some other known parameters to retrieve it.  Then
you will get back the ID you are looking for.

If there is a better method, I would like to know!

Liz



 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 27 10:29:44 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:29:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B4B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Have you tried using an output parameter to return the identity value?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number


I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 27 10:34:42 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:34:42 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B4C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I can't speak for anyone else, but for my personal projects, I just give
them a new front end for minor stuff.  Since my employer's product is
commercial, we either distribute a new CD or we put the latest installer
on our server for them to download.    The Wise installer is smart
enough to not install the runtime if it is already installed and
current.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


...hhmmm....thinking over the pros and cons.....I am getting very tired
of clients changing office versions etc etc and having the app crash. 

And I am getting very sick of setting refs and finding that some users
end up with it missing - whoops - crash again. So runtime should solve
both those issues?

On the other hand, with my main client (using full Access install) I can
get straight on to their PC online using VNC, make a change to the mdb,
recreate the mde and post it to the network from where it gets
automatically downloaded the next time all users open it.

That would be much harder with runtime, wouldn't it? How do you
distribute upgrades?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..yes ...lessons learned the hard way ...give a client full Access and

  "things" happen ...bad things ..."upgrade" that client to the newest
version 
  of Office Standard (w/runtime) rather than Office Pro and save them a
lot of 
  money ...its amazing how many strange happenings stop happening to
your apps 
  :(

  William

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  <<how does anyone that actually supports distributed
  Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having
full
  Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve
first

  William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: William Hindman
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing
around
    VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB
name is
    similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports 
  cleanly,
    at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

    ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports
distributed
    Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients
having 
  full
    Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather
starve 
  first
    :(

    William

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
    To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
    <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
    Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    > William,
    >
    > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes
in the
    > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly
yes.  The
    > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the
controls, 
  the
    > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in
Visual
    > Studio.
    >
    > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either
have 
  never
    > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even 
  purchased
    > it
    > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is
very
    > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
    >
    > John W. Colby
    > www.ColbyConsulting.com
    >
    > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
    > http://folding.stanford.edu/
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William

  Hindman
    > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
    > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
    >
    >
    > JC
    >
    > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual
Studio
    > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of
VB.net 
  in
    > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go
the
    > VBExpress route instead?
    >
    > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
    >
    > William
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
    > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
    > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
    > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
    > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
    >
    >
    >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
    >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own
IDE
    >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and
feels
    >> almost identical to the
    >> Visual Studio however.
    >>
    >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
    >>
    >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
    >> available.
    >> I
    >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done
(some)
    >> videos
    >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think
they 
  would
    >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty 
  quickly,
    >> and
    >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will
show
    >> you
    >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to
so 
  far)
    >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
    >>
    >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through
the
    >> video series right now.
    >>
    >> John W. Colby
    >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
    >>
    >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Wed Jul 27 10:34:54 2005
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:34:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF48607780579B607@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

Thanks Karen, I would like to look at that code to see if it would work
for me also.  It's going to be hard, with upwards of 10 people entering
data at the same time, it could be possible for two records to be
entered at the same time with the same time stamp. 


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-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

I am doing the exact same thing right now.  What I have done is to put a
field on the form (and in its datasource) with a time stamp.  As it is
being written to the new table, I am taking that time stamp right along
with it.  Then I am returning that value to my form based on time =
time.  Does that make sense?  Once I get it coded, I will post it. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Yeah that wouldn't work for me, I really don't have any other parameter
that I could query on to get the ID.  There could be upwards of 10
people entering data at the same time and on the same person.

I hope someone has a way to do this.

Thanks, 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:ldoering at symphonyinfo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Mike,

I've worked around this by saving the record to actually generate the
ID, then querying on some other known parameters to retrieve it.  Then
you will get back the ID you are looking for.

If there is a better method, I would like to know!

Liz



 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Wed Jul 27 10:35:35 2005
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:35:35 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF48607780579B608@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

Charlotte,

How would I go about that? 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
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-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Have you tried using an output parameter to return the identity value?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number


I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 27 10:37:55 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:37:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B4E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

But it would be more interesting to see you try to compare the date to
the state, Rocky. ;-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days


The date.  I store the date, not the state.  The date.

Rocky

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days


>I store the state each time they start the system.  If the system date 
>is
>ever earlier than the last time they started it (indicating that they
moved 
>the system date back to try to get a few more days' use) I give them a 
>message that says they need to adjust the clock in the computer and
quit 
>the app.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Josh McFarlane" <darsant at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
>
>
>> On 7/26/05, paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> 
>> wrote:
>>> What I tend to do is when they first open the application, store the
>>> system date and calculate 30 days in advance and also store this,
then 
>>> you just check the stored date which is 30 days in advance each time

>>> they open the app, if you check a stored date against system date,
they 
>>> can always keep changing the date on their machine can't they ?
>>>
>>> Paul Hartland
>>
>> The optimum solution I can think of is to have the two fields you 
>> mentioned, and use them as sort of a between statement in which it 
>> can run. First time the program opens, it sets both dates.
>>
>> Next time the user opens the application, first it checks to make 
>> sure the current date is between those dates, and if it is, it 
>> updates the current system date with the new value. This way, the 
>> date window that the program can be opened in slowly expires as time 
>> progresses.
>>
>> If the user sets their computer to day X  time Y after they got the 
>> App but before their last use time,  the start time is already after 
>> the current time, and the program cannot open.
>>
>> --
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From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 27 10:38:11 2005
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:38:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Cross Posted: Looking for a .NET developer near Neenah,
	WI
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Message-ID: <20050727153811.13490.qmail@web50405.mail.yahoo.com>

I do vb.net programming and am in Hudson, WI.  Please contact me off line if I can be of any help.
 
dkalsow at yahoo.com

Julie Reardon-Taylor <prosoft6 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 27 10:44:44 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:44:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B4F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

In that case, you put a line control in the top, left and right borders
of the detail and you put another horizontal line at the top of a group
footer that exists only for that purpose.  You can also draw the lines
in code.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes


Thanks for responding.
 
If I use the rectangle I only get a box around the textboxes for that
line and then another box around the textboxes on the next row. 
 
If I have 10 lines of data, I want one box to show around these text
boxes for all ten rows. Sort of like a border for the entire page of
detail.
 
Thanks again.

Sad Der <accessd666 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Lonnie,

can give some more details?
So, you want to create a line around textboxes. Do you
want this for all rows?
If so, why not use a rectangle and set the visible
property to true or false?

SD

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> 
> Lonnie Johnson
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> have 10 text boxes on a form all across in a row and
> I wanted to put a box around the first 5 and another
> box (boarder) around the second 5? This box/border
> would expand the height of the detail section of
> each page.
> 
> I was thinking of the Me.Line method but don't know
> how to
> 
> 1) Just put it around certain boxes
> 
> 2) How to have more than one line method going on at
> once.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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From pjones at btl.net  Wed Jul 27 12:13:54 2005
From: pjones at btl.net (Paul M. Jones)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:13:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000
Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050727110543.02984a98@pop.btl.net>

I have an application initially written in Access 97 and then moved to 
2000.  It talks to a SQL Server 2000 database using tables linked through 
an ODBC driver.  Lately I have had several instances where I call a stored 
procedure to perform an operation but I don't receive a response from the 
SQL Server even though the operation was carried out successfully.  This 
leaves my application hanging.  I suspect it has to do with the ODBC 
connection.  Anybody has any experiences with this type of issue?

On a related note, is there a better way of linking my tables to the SQL 
Server other than to use an ODBC driver?  I have a couple of newer projects 
that use ADP but unfortunately, it's not an option for me at this point 
since I have too many queries that I'll need to convert to either stored 
procedures or views.

Thanks

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jul 27 12:46:18 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:46:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337728@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

If you are basically selecting data for reporting you might switch to pass
through queries. This has worked well for me.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000


I have an application initially written in Access 97 and then moved to 
2000.  It talks to a SQL Server 2000 database using tables linked through 
an ODBC driver.  Lately I have had several instances where I call a stored 
procedure to perform an operation but I don't receive a response from the 
SQL Server even though the operation was carried out successfully.  This 
leaves my application hanging.  I suspect it has to do with the ODBC 
connection.  Anybody has any experiences with this type of issue?

On a related note, is there a better way of linking my tables to the SQL 
Server other than to use an ODBC driver?  I have a couple of newer projects 
that use ADP but unfortunately, it's not an option for me at this point 
since I have too many queries that I'll need to convert to either stored 
procedures or views.

Thanks

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 27 13:17:18 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:17:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7B@ADGSERVER>

Hey,

Our clients use our system on a network where each user has a FE against the
BE on the server.  While the app was originally written to all be on the
local pc, it has migrated to the server.  Usually all goes well.

Well, this one client has some weird happenings going on.  One user will be
in the database in any given form.  Another user cannot get access to the BE
until the 1st user exits the form they were in.  The first thing the app
does is to relink the tables to the last BE that was loaded.  It sounds like
there are some sort of issues with locking and the LDB file.  

Anyone have any pointers?

Thanks,
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From ebarro at afsweb.com  Wed Jul 27 13:19:13 2005
From: ebarro at afsweb.com (Eric Barro)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:19:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000
In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050727110543.02984a98@pop.btl.net>
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Paul,

Instead of linking why not pull down the information using
DoCmd.TransferDatabase?

I have this code on one of my apps.

DoCmd.DeleteObject acTable, "myaccesstablename"

DoCmd.TransferDatabase acImport "ODBC Database",
"ODBC;DSN=mydsnconnectionname;UID=myuserid;PWD=mypassword;Language=us_englis
h;" _
& "DATABASE=mysqldatabasename", acTable, "mysqltablename",
"myaccesstablename" 

ODBC by its very nature is slow and I've had the same issues before trying
to link SQL tables. This approach has solved that for me.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul M. Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000

I have an application initially written in Access 97 and then moved to 2000.
It talks to a SQL Server 2000 database using tables linked through an ODBC
driver.  Lately I have had several instances where I call a stored procedure
to perform an operation but I don't receive a response from the SQL Server
even though the operation was carried out successfully.  This leaves my
application hanging.  I suspect it has to do with the ODBC connection.
Anybody has any experiences with this type of issue?

On a related note, is there a better way of linking my tables to the SQL
Server other than to use an ODBC driver?  I have a couple of newer projects
that use ADP but unfortunately, it's not an option for me at this point
since I have too many queries that I'll need to convert to either stored
procedures or views.

Thanks

Paul M. Jones


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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jul 27 13:39:49 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:39:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F137776BB@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Just a thought: if it really is related to the re-linking process, then why
not have the app. simply check the links, and only do a re-link if needed?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question


Hey,

Our clients use our system on a network where each user has a FE against the
BE on the server.  While the app was originally written to all be on the
local pc, it has migrated to the server.  Usually all goes well.

Well, this one client has some weird happenings going on.  One user will be
in the database in any given form.  Another user cannot get access to the BE
until the 1st user exits the form they were in.  The first thing the app
does is to relink the tables to the last BE that was loaded.  It sounds like
there are some sort of issues with locking and the LDB file.  

Anyone have any pointers?

Thanks,
Bobby

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From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 13:44:50 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:44:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7B@ADGSERVER>
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <aea6c495050727114576b2dbdb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bobby,

The users need to have File Creation rights in the folder that the BE
database lives in so the LDB file can be created. Is there an LDB file
being created for the BE when the first user is in there? I think with
one user it will allow access without being able to create the LDB
file but will lock out the second user? I could be out in left field
wandering in my own dream world too of course. I do know that users of
our Access databases need full file creation, change and deletion
rights in the folder or else it doesn't work.

On 7/27/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Our clients use our system on a network where each user has a FE against the
> BE on the server.  While the app was originally written to all be on the
> local pc, it has migrated to the server.  Usually all goes well.
> 
> Well, this one client has some weird happenings going on.  One user will be
> in the database in any given form.  Another user cannot get access to the BE
> until the 1st user exits the form they were in.  The first thing the app
> does is to relink the tables to the last BE that was loaded.  It sounds like
> there are some sort of issues with locking and the LDB file.
> 
> Anyone have any pointers?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bobby
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 27 14:05:57 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:05:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C381CA@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7D@ADGSERVER>

It turns out that there is not a real problem other than the users are being
impatient.  The app has gotten bloated over time and needs to be rewritten
with SQL server, but the client does not want to do that yet.

The app is a little slow loading, especially on the network they are on.
They are having network problems which is slowing the app way down.  On my
slow machine (700Mhz PIII), it takes about 2 seconds to load the database
from a local drive.  It is taking them about 1-1.5 minutes to load.

As for the question about relinking at startup, we tried not relinking
before.  But there always seemed to be issues with that.  So it was decided
to just relink each time.

Thanks for the replies,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Locking question


Just a thought: if it really is related to the re-linking process, then why
not have the app. simply check the links, and only do a re-link if needed?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question


Hey,

Our clients use our system on a network where each user has a FE against the
BE on the server.  While the app was originally written to all be on the
local pc, it has migrated to the server.  Usually all goes well.

Well, this one client has some weird happenings going on.  One user will be
in the database in any given form.  Another user cannot get access to the BE
until the 1st user exits the form they were in.  The first thing the app
does is to relink the tables to the last BE that was loaded.  It sounds like
there are some sort of issues with locking and the LDB file.  

Anyone have any pointers?

Thanks,
Bobby




From pjones at btl.net  Wed Jul 27 14:01:47 2005
From: pjones at btl.net (Paul M. Jones)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:01:47 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337728@corp-es01.fleetprid e.com>
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337728@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050727125959.02a6f850@pop.btl.net>

Actually, I'm performing the full range of a normal application, including 
data entry, reporting, and calling stored procedures to execute specialized 
business logic.

Paul M. Jones
At 11:46 AM 7/27/2005, you wrote:
>If you are basically selecting data for reporting you might switch to pass
>through queries. This has worked well for me.
>Jim Hale

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From darsant at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 14:21:17 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:21:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7D@ADGSERVER>
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C381CA@ADGSERVER>
	<916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7D@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a05072712213cd642d0@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/27/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:
> It turns out that there is not a real problem other than the users are being
> impatient.  The app has gotten bloated over time and needs to be rewritten
> with SQL server, but the client does not want to do that yet.
> 
> The app is a little slow loading, especially on the network they are on.
> They are having network problems which is slowing the app way down.  On my
> slow machine (700Mhz PIII), it takes about 2 seconds to load the database
> from a local drive.  It is taking them about 1-1.5 minutes to load.
> 
> As for the question about relinking at startup, we tried not relinking
> before.  But there always seemed to be issues with that.  So it was decided
> to just relink each time.
> 
> Thanks for the replies,
> Bobby

Ouch, how big is the database?

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-Albert Einstein


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Jul 27 14:33:45 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:33:45 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <10490719.1122491391198.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <000701c592e2$1b595270$0518820a@danwaters>

Has the FE been decompiled/compiled and the BE compacted?  Perhaps the size
could be reduced . . .

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Locking question

It turns out that there is not a real problem other than the users are being
impatient.  The app has gotten bloated over time and needs to be rewritten
with SQL server, but the client does not want to do that yet.

The app is a little slow loading, especially on the network they are on.
They are having network problems which is slowing the app way down.  On my
slow machine (700Mhz PIII), it takes about 2 seconds to load the database
from a local drive.  It is taking them about 1-1.5 minutes to load.

As for the question about relinking at startup, we tried not relinking
before.  But there always seemed to be issues with that.  So it was decided
to just relink each time.

Thanks for the replies,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Locking question


Just a thought: if it really is related to the re-linking process, then why
not have the app. simply check the links, and only do a re-link if needed?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question


Hey,

Our clients use our system on a network where each user has a FE against the
BE on the server.  While the app was originally written to all be on the
local pc, it has migrated to the server.  Usually all goes well.

Well, this one client has some weird happenings going on.  One user will be
in the database in any given form.  Another user cannot get access to the BE
until the 1st user exits the form they were in.  The first thing the app
does is to relink the tables to the last BE that was loaded.  It sounds like
there are some sort of issues with locking and the LDB file.  

Anyone have any pointers?

Thanks,
Bobby


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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 27 14:37:29 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:37:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C381DB@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7E@ADGSERVER>

I'm not sure about their database.  It is our client's client.

Some of their clients have databases in the 80-100MB range.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking question


<snip>

Ouch, how big is the database?

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 27 14:41:43 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:41:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C381E3@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7F@ADGSERVER>

The FE is an MDE.  The back end is compacted occasionally.

I think the real issue is their network problems.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Locking question


Has the FE been decompiled/compiled and the BE compacted?  Perhaps the size
could be reduced . . .

Dan Waters



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Jul 27 14:51:36 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:51:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <18519772.1122493436943.JavaMail.root@sniper19>
Message-ID: <000201c592e4$996c0840$0518820a@danwaters>

Are you sure the FE was decompiled/compiled before it was converted to an
MDE?  Or since the code is 'removed' maybe that doesn't make a difference.

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Locking question

The FE is an MDE.  The back end is compacted occasionally.

I think the real issue is their network problems.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Locking question


Has the FE been decompiled/compiled and the BE compacted?  Perhaps the size
could be reduced . . .

Dan Waters

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 27 14:57:09 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:57:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A6A4@infoserver01.infostat.local>

SELECT @@IDENTITY FROM MyTable

IDENTITY maps to autonumber in Access

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number


Charlotte,

How would I go about that? 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Have you tried using an output parameter to return the identity value?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number


I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 27 15:57:36 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:57:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
References: <200507271332.j6RDWsR14371@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <42E7F540.6030202@shaw.ca>

Here is a US software escrow FAQ, Europe may differ on laws.
A local lawyer who practices IP Intellectual Property rights or 
copyright law.
or some banks in Europe used to provide this service alongside Financial 
Escrow.
might do it cheaper. But if you are putting out a lot of versions, the 
US price $500 - $750 sounds right
for a escrow company that does this on a daily basis.
http://www.softescrow.com/faq.html

Arthur Fuller wrote:

>My Dutch is pretty shaky (I know only about 5 words, of which my favourite
>is the word for vacuum cleaner) so I will respond in English. In a situation
>such as this (assuming the good intentions of the client), what the client
>is primarily concerned about is what happens should you get run over by a
>tram or meet some similar demise. What you are concerned about is protecting
>your source code. To protect both parties, you place the source code in
>escrow, which means in the hands of a disinterested party. Should the tram
>kill you, the client gets the code. Should you avoid collisions with a tram,
>your source code is safe.
>
>Arthur
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of | Marcel Vreuls
>Sent: July 27, 2005 2:59 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
>
>Hi Erwin,
>
>I have a ASP.NET and VB.NET ecommerce store with support multilanguage and
>is skinnalbe. After a year of development I am selling it for about 5 months
>now. Take a look at the store where are building right now
>http://topparts.7host.com . In most cases i do not sell the source because i
>invested a lot of time in it. I have two companies in holland who would like
>to have the source also and we come to an agreement about it. My main
>concern is that my customers are going to resell the software so this is
>what i would like to prevent. Just let me know what you think about it
>
>Marcel 
>
>(ps. as i live in holland you can contact me offline in dutch if that is
>easier for you (vrm at tim-cms.com). 
>
>  
>

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jul 27 18:09:04 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:09:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B4C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <001e01c59300$30167b70$6601a8c0@user>

Ok - I'll look into that. Thanks Charlotte,

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Charlotte Foust 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:34 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  I can't speak for anyone else, but for my personal projects, I just give
  them a new front end for minor stuff.  Since my employer's product is
  commercial, we either distribute a new CD or we put the latest installer
  on our server for them to download.    The Wise installer is smart
  enough to not install the runtime if it is already installed and
  current.

  Charlotte Foust


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:57 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ...hhmmm....thinking over the pros and cons.....I am getting very tired
  of clients changing office versions etc etc and having the app crash. 

  And I am getting very sick of setting refs and finding that some users
  end up with it missing - whoops - crash again. So runtime should solve
  both those issues?

  On the other hand, with my main client (using full Access install) I can
  get straight on to their PC online using VNC, make a change to the mdb,
  recreate the mde and post it to the network from where it gets
  automatically downloaded the next time all users open it.

  That would be much harder with runtime, wouldn't it? How do you
  distribute upgrades?

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: William Hindman 
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
    Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:15 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    ..yes ...lessons learned the hard way ...give a client full Access and

    "things" happen ...bad things ..."upgrade" that client to the newest
  version 
    of Office Standard (w/runtime) rather than Office Pro and save them a
  lot of 
    money ...its amazing how many strange happenings stop happening to
  your apps 
    :(

    William

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
    To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
    <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
    Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:58 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    <<how does anyone that actually supports distributed
    Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having
  full
    Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve
  first

    William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

    Kath
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: William Hindman
      To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
      Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
      Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


      ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing
  around
      VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB
  name is
      similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports 
    cleanly,
      at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

      ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports
  distributed
      Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients
  having 
    full
      Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather
  starve 
    first
      :(

      William

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
      To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
      <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
      Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
      Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


      > William,
      >
      > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes
  in the
      > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly
  yes.  The
      > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the
  controls, 
    the
      > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in
  Visual
      > Studio.
      >
      > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either
  have 
    never
      > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even 
    purchased
      > it
      > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is
  very
      > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
      >
      > John W. Colby
      > www.ColbyConsulting.com
      >
      > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
      > http://folding.stanford.edu/
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
      > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William

    Hindman
      > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
      > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
      > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
      >
      >
      > JC
      >
      > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual
  Studio
      > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of
  VB.net 
    in
      > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go
  the
      > VBExpress route instead?
      >
      > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
      >
      > William
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
      > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
      > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
      > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
      >
      >
      >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
      >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own
  IDE
      >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and
  feels
      >> almost identical to the
      >> Visual Studio however.
      >>
      >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
      >>
      >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
      >> available.
      >> I
      >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done
  (some)
      >> videos
      >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think
  they 
    would
      >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty 
    quickly,
      >> and
      >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will
  show
      >> you
      >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to
  so 
    far)
      >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
      >>
      >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through
  the
      >> video series right now.
      >>
      >> John W. Colby
      >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
      >>
      >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
      >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
      >>
      >>
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From itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 27 19:02:55 2005
From: itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:02:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem
Message-ID: <20050728000255.64512.qmail@web81503.mail.yahoo.com>

Let me try this again.  I just realized my original message never made it to the group.  Help?

Thanks,
Jeremy
 


Jeremy Toves <itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeremy Toves <itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Quitting Application Problem
To: AccessD <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>

I have a database that needs to complete a few processes before it is closed.  Some of the users are closing the application by using the "x" in the upper right corner of the Access database.  Is there a way to disable this?  Or can a message prompt the user to complete processing before exiting?  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeremy Toves
 


From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Jul 27 19:31:28 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:31:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364EE67@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Jeremy
There are a number of ways.
Here's one

Have a frm call it say...frmHidden
Have it open each time your app is started. Put it in an AutoExec Macro.
(Lemme know if you are unsure what an AutoExec Macro is) 

But have the macro open the form 'hidden' - IE not visible to anyone at
all.
In the On Unload or OnClose of that hidden form have something like...

If msgbox ("Are you sure you want to close Jeremy's way cool application
completely?",vbquestion + vbyesNo, "Confirm Application Close")=vbyes
then
	'User chose yes so let 'em quit
	'Put some code to here that allows them to exit gracefully
	'IE close other forms, close reports, stop any processes etc
	docmd.quit
Else
	'User Chose no -  so do nothing
End if

The way it works is...if the whole app is going to be closed then this
hidden form will be claosed also
Sparking the OnClose or OnUnload code thus allowing them to think about
closing completely or not
Via the message box that pops up

Hope this helps

Darren




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

Let me try this again.  I just realized my original message never made
it to the group.  Help?

Thanks,
Jeremy
 


Jeremy Toves <itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeremy Toves <itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Quitting Application Problem
To: AccessD <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>

I have a database that needs to complete a few processes before it is
closed.  Some of the users are closing the application by using the "x"
in the upper right corner of the Access database.  Is there a way to
disable this?  Or can a message prompt the user to complete processing
before exiting?  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeremy Toves
 
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 27 19:33:41 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:33:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Jet 4 SP 8
References: <004801c590b7$f3c7ce20$6401a8c0@laptop1>
	<42E48B1A.4010808@shaw.ca> <42E50C72.3060606@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV38ED0E6682C8169403FDAAECF0@phx.gbl>

Joe

http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/Otherdownload.asp?SampleName='DetectAccessJet.zip'
..a module with functions to view the Access version, the Jet version, and 
the Jet SP
..seems it's derived from some of Marty's code :)

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MartyConnelly" <martyconnelly at shaw.ca>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Jet 4 SP 8


> This KB might be a bit clearer as it it shows how to identify the 
> mjset40.dll version number
> for the security patch that was added to Jet SP8 April 13, 2004
>
> How to obtain the latest service pack for the Microsoft Jet 4.0 Database 
> Engine
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239114/
>
>
> MartyConnelly wrote:
>
>> Here is the Jet SP-8 file manifest
>> Just check by right clicking your Dao360.dll  for property file version
>> should be at least Dao360.dll         3.60.8025.0     557,328 bytes
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=829558
>>
>> You can find again by hunting through general mdac portal for jet
>> http://www.microsoft.com/data
>>
>> Joe Hecht wrote:
>>
>>> I am reading an article online about Access security and it is talking 
>>> about
>>> sandbox mode. To get there you need to be using Jet 4 SP 8.
>>>
>>> I am running AXP on one machine and A2k3 on the other. How do I check 
>>> Jet
>>> Version and SP release.
>>>
>>> Here is the article link.
>>>
>>> http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC011461801033
>>>
>>> Joe Hecht
>>> Los Angeles CA
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> -- 
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> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 27 19:40:46 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:40:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes
References: <20050726125206.56638.qmail@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV5B74C7D39360F19F8EB9BAECF0@phx.gbl>

http://www.lebans.com/Report.htm
..Steve has a couple of approaches to this with sample mdbs ...hth.

William
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lonnie Johnson" <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes


> Thanks for responding.
>
> If I use the rectangle I only get a box around the textboxes for that line 
> and then another box around the textboxes on the next row.
>
> If I have 10 lines of data, I want one box to show around these text boxes 
> for all ten rows. Sort of like a border for the entire page of detail.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Sad Der <accessd666 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Lonnie,
>
> can give some more details?
> So, you want to create a line around textboxes. Do you
> want this for all rows?
> If so, why not use a rectangle and set the visible
> property to true or false?
>
> SD
>
> --- Lonnie Johnson
> wrote:
>
>> I am sorry, this is on a report and not a form.
>>
>> Lonnie Johnson
> wrote:What if I
>> have 10 text boxes on a form all across in a row and
>> I wanted to put a box around the first 5 and another
>> box (boarder) around the second 5? This box/border
>> would expand the height of the detail section of
>> each page.
>>
>> I was thinking of the Me.Line method but don't know
>> how to
>>
>> 1) Just put it around certain boxes
>>
>> 2) How to have more than one line method going on at
>> once.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
>> Lonnie Johnson
>> ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access
>> Databases
>> Visit me at ==> http://www.prodev.us
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 27 20:06:28 2005
From: itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:06:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem
In-Reply-To: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364EE67@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <20050728010628.69636.qmail@web81510.mail.yahoo.com>

That seems to be part of it, but something has to happen to keep the database open once it hits the Else.  If I leave it as is, then the database closes when the form unloads.  Is there something I can code to keep the form loaded, even if somebody tries to close the application by hitting "x"?  
 
Is there a way to hide the"x"?  
 
Thanks,
Jeremy
 


Darren Dick <D.Dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Jeremy
There are a number of ways.
Here's one

Have a frm call it say...frmHidden
Have it open each time your app is started. Put it in an AutoExec Macro.
(Lemme know if you are unsure what an AutoExec Macro is) 

But have the macro open the form 'hidden' - IE not visible to anyone at
all.
In the On Unload or OnClose of that hidden form have something like...

If msgbox ("Are you sure you want to close Jeremy's way cool application
completely?",vbquestion + vbyesNo, "Confirm Application Close")=vbyes
then
'User chose yes so let 'em quit
'Put some code to here that allows them to exit gracefully
'IE close other forms, close reports, stop any processes etc
docmd.quit
Else
'User Chose no - so do nothing
End if

The way it works is...if the whole app is going to be closed then this
hidden form will be claosed also
Sparking the OnClose or OnUnload code thus allowing them to think about
closing completely or not
Via the message box that pops up

Hope this helps

Darren




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

Let me try this again. I just realized my original message never made
it to the group. Help?

Thanks,
Jeremy



Jeremy Toves wrote:
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeremy Toves 
Subject: Quitting Application Problem
To: AccessD 

I have a database that needs to complete a few processes before it is
closed. Some of the users are closing the application by using the "x"
in the upper right corner of the Access database. Is there a way to
disable this? Or can a message prompt the user to complete processing
before exiting? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeremy Toves

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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 27 20:34:42 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:34:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
References: <000a01c58e62$be555610$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805><BAY103-DAV627EDA34DF58782227F54AEC90@phx.gbl><002901c590ab$8fe53de0$6601a8c0@user><BAY103-DAV515AE9B1C3C3EAFD756FCAECA0@phx.gbl>
	<00b501c59246$20f72140$6601a8c0@user>
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..pretty much the same way you do Kath but I make the changes on my 
development system ...test it on my client simulator system ...and then put 
a new fe on the network for normal update by the runtime systems.

..runtimes won't solve version change problems ...but you can build code 
into your startup to check the current version and load the correct runtime 
if you anticipate version changes ...that's a bit of work and only works 
transparently if MS doesn't throw a monkey wrench into things ...the damn 
"sandbox" in 2003 is a "*(&%$ example of such ...code runs fine in full 
Access but errors all over the place in the runtime ...so far I've just 
disabled it ...the "new" file dialog object is another example of something 
that works fine in full mode and not at all in runtime :(

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


..hhmmm....thinking over the pros and cons.....I am getting very tired of 
clients changing office versions etc etc and having the app crash.

And I am getting very sick of setting refs and finding that some users end 
up with it missing - whoops - crash again. So runtime should solve both 
those issues?

On the other hand, with my main client (using full Access install) I can get 
straight on to their PC online using VNC, make a change to the mdb, recreate 
the mde and post it to the network from where it gets automatically 
downloaded the next time all users open it.

That would be much harder with runtime, wouldn't it? How do you distribute 
upgrades?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..yes ...lessons learned the hard way ...give a client full Access and
  "things" happen ...bad things ..."upgrade" that client to the newest 
version
  of Office Standard (w/runtime) rather than Office Pro and save them a lot 
of
  money ...its amazing how many strange happenings stop happening to your 
apps
  :(

  William

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  <<how does anyone that actually supports distributed
  Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having 
full
  Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve 
first

  William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: William Hindman
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing 
around
    VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name 
is
    similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports
  cleanly,
    at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

    ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports 
distributed
    Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having
  full
    Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve
  first
    :(

    William

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
    To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
    <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
    Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    > William,
    >
    > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in 
the
    > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes. 
The
    > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the controls,
  the
    > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual
    > Studio.
    >
    > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have
  never
    > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even
  purchased
    > it
    > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is very
    > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
    >
    > John W. Colby
    > www.ColbyConsulting.com
    >
    > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
    > http://folding.stanford.edu/
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
  Hindman
    > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
    > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
    >
    >
    > JC
    >
    > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio
    > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of 
VB.net
  in
    > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the
    > VBExpress route instead?
    >
    > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
    >
    > William
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
    > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
    > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
    > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
    > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
    >
    >
    >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
    >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE
    >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels
    >> almost identical to the
    >> Visual Studio however.
    >>
    >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
    >>
    >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
    >> available.
    >> I
    >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
    >> videos
    >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they
  would
    >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty
  quickly,
    >> and
    >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will 
show
    >> you
    >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so
  far)
    >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
    >>
    >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
    >> video series right now.
    >>
    >> John W. Colby
    >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
    >>
    >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
    >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
    >>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 27 20:45:28 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:45:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B4B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <0IKB0074TE7RIZ@l-daemon>

Couldn't have said it better.

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Have you tried using an output parameter to return the identity value?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number


I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Jul 27 20:55:41 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:55:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364EF3C@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

That code will do it
Put the code in the Unload of the form as the Unload Event has a cancel
option
So....copy and paste this code below into any form
Then try and close the app.

Private Sub Form_Unload(Cancel As Integer)

If MsgBox("Are you sure you want to close Jeremy's way cool application
completely?", vbQuestion + vbYesNo, "Confirm Application Close") = vbYes
Then
    'User chose yes so let 'em quit
    'Put some code to here that allows them to exit gracefully
    'IE close other forms, close reports, stop any processes etc
    DoCmd.Quit
Else 'User Chose no - so do nothing
    Cancel = True ' this will stop the action that faised the Unload to
occur IE closing the APP :-))
End If
End Sub


 DD

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

That seems to be part of it, but something has to happen to keep the
database open once it hits the Else.  If I leave it as is, then the
database closes when the form unloads.  Is there something I can code to
keep the form loaded, even if somebody tries to close the application by
hitting "x"?  
 
Is there a way to hide the"x"?  
 
Thanks,
Jeremy
 


Darren Dick <D.Dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Jeremy
There are a number of ways.
Here's one

Have a frm call it say...frmHidden
Have it open each time your app is started. Put it in an AutoExec Macro.
(Lemme know if you are unsure what an AutoExec Macro is) 

But have the macro open the form 'hidden' - IE not visible to anyone at
all.
In the On Unload or OnClose of that hidden form have something like...

If msgbox ("Are you sure you want to close Jeremy's way cool application
completely?",vbquestion + vbyesNo, "Confirm Application Close")=vbyes
then 'User chose yes so let 'em quit 'Put some code to here that allows
them to exit gracefully 'IE close other forms, close reports, stop any
processes etc docmd.quit Else 'User Chose no - so do nothing End if

The way it works is...if the whole app is going to be closed then this
hidden form will be claosed also Sparking the OnClose or OnUnload code
thus allowing them to think about closing completely or not Via the
message box that pops up

Hope this helps

Darren




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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

Let me try this again. I just realized my original message never made it
to the group. Help?

Thanks,
Jeremy



Jeremy Toves wrote:
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeremy Toves
Subject: Quitting Application Problem
To: AccessD 

I have a database that needs to complete a few processes before it is
closed. Some of the users are closing the application by using the "x"
in the upper right corner of the Access database. Is there a way to
disable this? Or can a message prompt the user to complete processing
before exiting? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeremy Toves

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 27 20:49:48 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:49:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000
In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050727110543.02984a98@pop.btl.net>
Message-ID: <0IKB00070EEZ8B@l-daemon>

Hi Paul:

By using ADO-OLE. There are many references and code that have been on it
posted on the list over the years. Just go to site/page
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com/archive/archive.htm ) on the DBA site and
search on ADO.

HTH
Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000

I have an application initially written in Access 97 and then moved to 
2000.  It talks to a SQL Server 2000 database using tables linked through 
an ODBC driver.  Lately I have had several instances where I call a stored 
procedure to perform an operation but I don't receive a response from the 
SQL Server even though the operation was carried out successfully.  This 
leaves my application hanging.  I suspect it has to do with the ODBC 
connection.  Anybody has any experiences with this type of issue?

On a related note, is there a better way of linking my tables to the SQL 
Server other than to use an ODBC driver?  I have a couple of newer projects 
that use ADP but unfortunately, it's not an option for me at this point 
since I have too many queries that I'll need to convert to either stored 
procedures or views.

Thanks

Paul M. Jones


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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Wed Jul 27 21:01:45 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:01:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos 
Message-ID: <OFE793CF55.6A61F716-ONCA25704C.000ACD63@agric.nsw.gov.au>

Kath,

We use Sagekey to deploy Access97 over multiple platforms, and when i make 
an upgrade I just use the exe to do it. The advantage we have found is as 
it takes its own references and such I do not get deployment issues 
despite having 2500 users over 4 different SOEs and 4 departments. I run 
Access97 apps across office 97, 2000, XP and all operating systems from 
windows98 to XP, 2000 and NT. Just a thought, if you want more information 
just let me know.

Regards,
Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries 
Orange


..pretty much the same way you do Kath but I make the changes on my 
development system ...test it on my client simulator system ...and then 
put 
a new fe on the network for normal update by the runtime systems.

..runtimes won't solve version change problems ...but you can build code 
into your startup to check the current version and load the correct 
runtime 
if you anticipate version changes ...that's a bit of work and only works 
transparently if MS doesn't throw a monkey wrench into things ...the damn 
"sandbox" in 2003 is a "*(&%$ example of such ...code runs fine in full 
Access but errors all over the place in the runtime ...so far I've just 
disabled it ...the "new" file dialog object is another example of 
something 
that works fine in full mode and not at all in runtime :(

William


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jul 27 21:08:07 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:08:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
In-Reply-To: <OFE793CF55.6A61F716-ONCA25704C.000ACD63@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <000701c59319$325e3f30$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

You might want to change the subject of this thread

John W. Colby
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connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:02 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos 


Kath,

We use Sagekey to deploy Access97 over multiple platforms, and when i make 
an upgrade I just use the exe to do it. The advantage we have found is as 
it takes its own references and such I do not get deployment issues 
despite having 2500 users over 4 different SOEs and 4 departments. I run 
Access97 apps across office 97, 2000, XP and all operating systems from 
windows98 to XP, 2000 and NT. Just a thought, if you want more information 
just let me know.

Regards,
Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries 
Orange


..pretty much the same way you do Kath but I make the changes on my 
development system ...test it on my client simulator system ...and then 
put 
a new fe on the network for normal update by the runtime systems.

..runtimes won't solve version change problems ...but you can build code 
into your startup to check the current version and load the correct 
runtime 
if you anticipate version changes ...that's a bit of work and only works 
transparently if MS doesn't throw a monkey wrench into things ...the damn 
"sandbox" in 2003 is a "*(&%$ example of such ...code runs fine in full 
Access but errors all over the place in the runtime ...so far I've just 
disabled it ...the "new" file dialog object is another example of 
something 
that works fine in full mode and not at all in runtime :(

William


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From itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 27 21:08:55 2005
From: itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:08:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem
In-Reply-To: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364EF3C@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <20050728020855.77475.qmail@web81502.mail.yahoo.com>

Darren, 

Thanks for the help!
 
Jeremy

Darren Dick <D.Dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
That code will do it
Put the code in the Unload of the form as the Unload Event has a cancel
option
So....copy and paste this code below into any form
Then try and close the app.

Private Sub Form_Unload(Cancel As Integer)

If MsgBox("Are you sure you want to close Jeremy's way cool application
completely?", vbQuestion + vbYesNo, "Confirm Application Close") = vbYes
Then
'User chose yes so let 'em quit
'Put some code to here that allows them to exit gracefully
'IE close other forms, close reports, stop any processes etc
DoCmd.Quit
Else 'User Chose no - so do nothing
Cancel = True ' this will stop the action that faised the Unload to
occur IE closing the APP :-))
End If
End Sub


DD

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

That seems to be part of it, but something has to happen to keep the
database open once it hits the Else. If I leave it as is, then the
database closes when the form unloads. Is there something I can code to
keep the form loaded, even if somebody tries to close the application by
hitting "x"? 

Is there a way to hide the"x"? 

Thanks,
Jeremy



Darren Dick wrote:
Hi Jeremy
There are a number of ways.
Here's one

Have a frm call it say...frmHidden
Have it open each time your app is started. Put it in an AutoExec Macro.
(Lemme know if you are unsure what an AutoExec Macro is) 

But have the macro open the form 'hidden' - IE not visible to anyone at
all.
In the On Unload or OnClose of that hidden form have something like...

If msgbox ("Are you sure you want to close Jeremy's way cool application
completely?",vbquestion + vbyesNo, "Confirm Application Close")=vbyes
then 'User chose yes so let 'em quit 'Put some code to here that allows
them to exit gracefully 'IE close other forms, close reports, stop any
processes etc docmd.quit Else 'User Chose no - so do nothing End if

The way it works is...if the whole app is going to be closed then this
hidden form will be claosed also Sparking the OnClose or OnUnload code
thus allowing them to think about closing completely or not Via the
message box that pops up

Hope this helps

Darren




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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

Let me try this again. I just realized my original message never made it
to the group. Help?

Thanks,
Jeremy



Jeremy Toves wrote:
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeremy Toves
Subject: Quitting Application Problem
To: AccessD 

I have a database that needs to complete a few processes before it is
closed. Some of the users are closing the application by using the "x"
in the upper right corner of the Access database. Is there a way to
disable this? Or can a message prompt the user to complete processing
before exiting? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeremy Toves

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jul 27 21:24:48 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:24:48 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install
References: <000a01c58e62$be555610$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805><BAY103-DAV627EDA34DF58782227F54AEC90@phx.gbl><002901c590ab$8fe53de0$6601a8c0@user><BAY103-DAV515AE9B1C3C3EAFD756FCAECA0@phx.gbl><00b501c59246$20f72140$6601a8c0@user>
	<BAY103-DAV17E0928E7F20E7D65F2C9BAECF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001901c5931b$8744a4b0$6601a8c0@user>

<<...runtimes won't solve version change problems.....
Really? 

Are you saying that if you distribute a runtime and users then install eg. a newer version of Access then it can play up? Sounds like a headache....exactly the kind of problem I have now.

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..pretty much the same way you do Kath but I make the changes on my 
  development system ...test it on my client simulator system ...and then put 
  a new fe on the network for normal update by the runtime systems.

  ..runtimes won't solve version change problems ...but you can build code 
  into your startup to check the current version and load the correct runtime 
  if you anticipate version changes ...that's a bit of work and only works 
  transparently if MS doesn't throw a monkey wrench into things ...the damn 
  "sandbox" in 2003 is a "*(&%$ example of such ...code runs fine in full 
  Access but errors all over the place in the runtime ...so far I've just 
  disabled it ...the "new" file dialog object is another example of something 
  that works fine in full mode and not at all in runtime :(

  William

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..hhmmm....thinking over the pros and cons.....I am getting very tired of 
  clients changing office versions etc etc and having the app crash.

  And I am getting very sick of setting refs and finding that some users end 
  up with it missing - whoops - crash again. So runtime should solve both 
  those issues?

  On the other hand, with my main client (using full Access install) I can get 
  straight on to their PC online using VNC, make a change to the mdb, recreate 
  the mde and post it to the network from where it gets automatically 
  downloaded the next time all users open it.

  That would be much harder with runtime, wouldn't it? How do you distribute 
  upgrades?

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: William Hindman
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:15 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    ..yes ...lessons learned the hard way ...give a client full Access and
    "things" happen ...bad things ..."upgrade" that client to the newest 
  version
    of Office Standard (w/runtime) rather than Office Pro and save them a lot 
  of
    money ...its amazing how many strange happenings stop happening to your 
  apps
    :(

    William

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
    To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
    <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
    Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:58 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    <<how does anyone that actually supports distributed
    Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having 
  full
    Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve 
  first

    William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

    Kath
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: William Hindman
      To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
      Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
      Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


      ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing 
  around
      VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name 
  is
      similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports
    cleanly,
      at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

      ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports 
  distributed
      Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having
    full
      Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve
    first
      :(

      William

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      From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
      To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
      <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
      Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
      Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


      > William,
      >
      > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in 
  the
      > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes. 
  The
      > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the controls,
    the
      > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual
      > Studio.
      >
      > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have
    never
      > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even
    purchased
      > it
      > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is very
      > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
      >
      > John W. Colby
      > www.ColbyConsulting.com
      >
      > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
      > http://folding.stanford.edu/
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
      > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
    Hindman
      > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
      > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
      > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
      >
      >
      > JC
      >
      > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio
      > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of 
  VB.net
    in
      > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the
      > VBExpress route instead?
      >
      > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
      >
      > William
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
      > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
      > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
      > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
      >
      >
      >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
      >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE
      >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels
      >> almost identical to the
      >> Visual Studio however.
      >>
      >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
      >>
      >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
      >> available.
      >> I
      >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
      >> videos
      >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they
    would
      >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty
    quickly,
      >> and
      >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will 
  show
      >> you
      >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so
    far)
      >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
      >>
      >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
      >> video series right now.
      >>
      >> John W. Colby
      >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
      >>
      >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
      >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jul 27 21:41:01 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:41:01 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install
References: <OFE793CF55.6A61F716-ONCA25704C.000ACD63@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <002101c5931d$cb5706a0$6601a8c0@user>

Hi Connie - thanks for the reply. 2500 users? That's pretty impressive. Did you notice William's email? Have you had the version change problems he mentions?

Kath
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  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:01 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos 


  Kath,

  We use Sagekey to deploy Access97 over multiple platforms, and when i make 
  an upgrade I just use the exe to do it. The advantage we have found is as 
  it takes its own references and such I do not get deployment issues 
  despite having 2500 users over 4 different SOEs and 4 departments. I run 
  Access97 apps across office 97, 2000, XP and all operating systems from 
  windows98 to XP, 2000 and NT. Just a thought, if you want more information 
  just let me know.

  Regards,
  Connie Kamrowski

  Analyst/Programmer
  Information Technology
  NSW Department of Primary Industries 
  Orange


  ..pretty much the same way you do Kath but I make the changes on my 
  development system ...test it on my client simulator system ...and then 
  put 
  a new fe on the network for normal update by the runtime systems.

  ..runtimes won't solve version change problems ...but you can build code 
  into your startup to check the current version and load the correct 
  runtime 
  if you anticipate version changes ...that's a bit of work and only works 
  transparently if MS doesn't throw a monkey wrench into things ...the damn 
  "sandbox" in 2003 is a "*(&%$ example of such ...code runs fine in full 
  Access but errors all over the place in the runtime ...so far I've just 
  disabled it ...the "new" file dialog object is another example of 
  something 
  that works fine in full mode and not at all in runtime :(

  William


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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Wed Jul 27 20:50:58 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:50:58 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: AccessD Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35
Message-ID: <OF5625B1D6.F5DADEBF-ONCA25704C.00096FFB@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Hello List,

Just when it seemed I had all the information I needed up pops another good
one.

I have been meeting today with a group of people who have been implementing
a rather unique process for managing their data. They firstly store
approximately 475000 records in one table in an Access Database, They then
run a query on this database which creates 385000+ records and sticks them
in a second database, they then run a query on this one generating 285000
records and store this in ... you guessed it Database number 3. To finish
it off they query again, store the results in a 4th database and use this
one for day to day business. The databases range in size from 1.05gigabytes
back to 370Megabytes. I was in awe.

I am now designing a new relational database to store and manage this data.

My problem is this, the business drivers for this database have now got
soem concerns for the integrity of the data (possibly based on the look on
my face when they showed me the databases). And so while I am redesigning
and they are finding the money for rebuilding they wish to archive off some
of the records in the largest database. They would however need to be able
to search and manipulate these records. What is the best way to manage
this?

I am astounded by the way some people use Access,

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jul 27 22:12:17 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:12:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: AccessD Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35
In-Reply-To: <OF5625B1D6.F5DADEBF-ONCA25704C.00096FFB@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <000801c59322$2902d5f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

>I am astounded by the way some people use Access

ROTFL.  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Subject: [AccessD] Re: AccessD Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35



Hello List,

Just when it seemed I had all the information I needed up pops another good
one.

I have been meeting today with a group of people who have been implementing
a rather unique process for managing their data. They firstly store
approximately 475000 records in one table in an Access Database, They then
run a query on this database which creates 385000+ records and sticks them
in a second database, they then run a query on this one generating 285000
records and store this in ... you guessed it Database number 3. To finish it
off they query again, store the results in a 4th database and use this one
for day to day business. The databases range in size from 1.05gigabytes back
to 370Megabytes. I was in awe.

I am now designing a new relational database to store and manage this data.

My problem is this, the business drivers for this database have now got soem
concerns for the integrity of the data (possibly based on the look on my
face when they showed me the databases). And so while I am redesigning and
they are finding the money for rebuilding they wish to archive off some of
the records in the largest database. They would however need to be able to
search and manipulate these records. What is the best way to manage this?

I am astounded by the way some people use Access,

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange



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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 27 22:47:29 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:47:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem
In-Reply-To: <20050728010628.69636.qmail@web81510.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c59327$1455ebb0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

In the form properties you can disable the "x"

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:06 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

That seems to be part of it, but something has to happen to keep the
database open once it hits the Else.  If I leave it as is, then the database
closes when the form unloads.  Is there something I can code to keep the
form loaded, even if somebody tries to close the application by hitting "x"?

 
Is there a way to hide the"x"?  
 
Thanks,
Jeremy
 


Darren Dick <D.Dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Jeremy
There are a number of ways.
Here's one

Have a frm call it say...frmHidden
Have it open each time your app is started. Put it in an AutoExec Macro.
(Lemme know if you are unsure what an AutoExec Macro is) 

But have the macro open the form 'hidden' - IE not visible to anyone at
all.
In the On Unload or OnClose of that hidden form have something like...

If msgbox ("Are you sure you want to close Jeremy's way cool application
completely?",vbquestion + vbyesNo, "Confirm Application Close")=vbyes
then
'User chose yes so let 'em quit
'Put some code to here that allows them to exit gracefully
'IE close other forms, close reports, stop any processes etc
docmd.quit
Else
'User Chose no - so do nothing
End if

The way it works is...if the whole app is going to be closed then this
hidden form will be claosed also
Sparking the OnClose or OnUnload code thus allowing them to think about
closing completely or not
Via the message box that pops up

Hope this helps

Darren




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Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

Let me try this again. I just realized my original message never made
it to the group. Help?

Thanks,
Jeremy



Jeremy Toves wrote:
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeremy Toves 
Subject: Quitting Application Problem
To: AccessD 

I have a database that needs to complete a few processes before it is
closed. Some of the users are closing the application by using the "x"
in the upper right corner of the Access database. Is there a way to
disable this? Or can a message prompt the user to complete processing
before exiting? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeremy Toves

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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jul 27 23:07:02 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 00:07:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
In-Reply-To: <42E7F540.6030202@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200507280406.j6S46vR30843@databaseadvisors.com>

Thanks for the addendum, Marty!


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Sent: July 27, 2005 4:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software

Here is a US software escrow FAQ, Europe may differ on laws.
A local lawyer who practices IP Intellectual Property rights or 
copyright law.
or some banks in Europe used to provide this service alongside Financial 
Escrow.
might do it cheaper. But if you are putting out a lot of versions, the 
US price $500 - $750 sounds right
for a escrow company that does this on a daily basis.
http://www.softescrow.com/faq.html

Arthur Fuller wrote:

>My Dutch is pretty shaky (I know only about 5 words, of which my favourite
>is the word for vacuum cleaner) so I will respond in English. In a
situation
>such as this (assuming the good intentions of the client), what the client
>is primarily concerned about is what happens should you get run over by a
>tram or meet some similar demise. What you are concerned about is
protecting
>your source code. To protect both parties, you place the source code in
>escrow, which means in the hands of a disinterested party. Should the tram
>kill you, the client gets the code. Should you avoid collisions with a
tram,
>your source code is safe.
>
>Arthur



From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Wed Jul 27 23:10:58 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 00:10:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: AccessD Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35
References: <OF5625B1D6.F5DADEBF-ONCA25704C.00096FFB@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <045401c5932a$5cf47000$0302a8c0@default>

...
>They firstly store approximately 475000 records in one table in an
> Access Database, They then run a query on this database which
> creates 385000+ records and sticks them in a second database,
> they then run a query on this one generating 285000 records and
> store this in ... you guessed it Database number 3. To finish it off
> they query again, store the results in a 4th database and use this
> one for day to day business.

Connie, can it be assumed that data-entry is done in the first db?
Or, are you saying that records are transferred from the fourth db
to the first at the end of the day? Perhaps they are even pulling such
data from a different database system?

...
> they wish to archive off some of the records in the largest database.
> They would however need to be able to search and manipulate these
> records. What is the best way to manage this?

If I read into this correctly, there are several records per account and
your new relational system will keep the track of the account number.
As long as there is a Primary Key AutoNumber that can relate to a Long
in the archive table(s), you can just use SQL for searches and edits.
Perhaps it is not this simple, though ... ? What's missing?

----

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From: <connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:50 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Re: AccessD Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35


>
> Hello List,
>
> Just when it seemed I had all the information I needed up pops another
good
> one.
>
> I have been meeting today with a group of people who have been
implementing
> a rather unique process for managing their data. They firstly store
> approximately 475000 records in one table in an Access Database, They then
> run a query on this database which creates 385000+ records and sticks them
> in a second database, they then run a query on this one generating 285000
> records and store this in ... you guessed it Database number 3. To finish
> it off they query again, store the results in a 4th database and use this
> one for day to day business. The databases range in size from
1.05gigabytes
> back to 370Megabytes. I was in awe.
>
> I am now designing a new relational database to store and manage this
data.
>
> My problem is this, the business drivers for this database have now got
> soem concerns for the integrity of the data (possibly based on the look on
> my face when they showed me the databases). And so while I am redesigning
> and they are finding the money for rebuilding they wish to archive off
some
> of the records in the largest database. They would however need to be able
> to search and manipulate these records. What is the best way to manage
> this?
>
> I am astounded by the way some people use Access,
>
> Connie Kamrowski
>
> Analyst/Programmer
> Information Technology
> NSW Department of Primary Industries
> Orange



From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Wed Jul 27 23:30:38 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:30:38 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Huge Access Database was wrongly named Re: AccessD
 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35 
Message-ID: <OFCAD7FBAE.96D03B6A-ONCA25704C.00171874@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Matty,

Yes the data is all entered into the original Database. The 4th DB is
actrually the data they need to export as a commercial venture (my headache
is getting worse LOL). The original data is entered from old records and
until I create the new relational model with a shiny new SQL backend this
is the only electronic record of the data. The need is there to be able to
seperate this based on the date it was entered and store as a historical
record, Problem is they may need to search the historical data for a
specific record. I am unsure of the best way to manage this volume of
records I guess. There is a unique number per record, it is the serial
number given by the database. The criteria they will search on is a 16
digit alphanumeric field. It is probably simple, but as I have not dealt
with the whole historical record managemnt thing I am looking for advice on
how to manage this in the interim. That and I wanted to share this as a
hall of fame use of Access, LOL.

John,

What was the amusing bit??? The use of Access or my amazement.... *grin*
.... they obviously didn't have access to this group or they would have
known better huh?

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange

>They firstly store approximately 475000 records in one table in an
> Access Database, They then run a query on this database which
> creates 385000+ records and sticks them in a second database,
> they then run a query on this one generating 285000 records and
> store this in ... you guessed it Database number 3. To finish it off
> they query again, store the results in a 4th database and use this
> one for day to day business.

Connie, can it be assumed that data-entry is done in the first db?
Or, are you saying that records are transferred from the fourth db
to the first at the end of the day? Perhaps they are even pulling such
data from a different database system?

...
> they wish to archive off some of the records in the largest database.
> They would however need to be able to search and manipulate these
> records. What is the best way to manage this?

If I read into this correctly, there are several records per account and
your new relational system will keep the track of the account number.
As long as there is a Primary Key AutoNumber that can relate to a Long
in the archive table(s), you can just use SQL for searches and edits.
Perhaps it is not this simple, though ... ? What's missing?



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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Wed Jul 27 23:46:35 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:46:35 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install
Message-ID: <OF4407B1B7.1C627C41-ONCA25704C.001993E3@agric.nsw.gov.au>

Not so impressive, they are not concurrent :) Just potentially so. 
Databases are not always deployed across all users.  I was referencing the 
fact that we have deployed at least one database to these users and their 
specific environments and have not had problems. 

Because of the way sagekey works we have found that as long as we 
encapsulate all of the things we reference into the sagekey runtime, we 
have had no issues at all. It may be worth a look at their website http://www.sagekey.com/ for a run down of what it does and what they promise. Just a suggestion 
but it has worked really well for us with the issues we were having cross 
deploying and installing upgrades.

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries 
Orange

Ph: 02 6391 3250
Fax:02 6391 3290


Hi Connie - thanks for the reply. 2500 users? That's pretty impressive. 
Did you notice William's email? Have you had the version change problems 
he mentions?

Kath


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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 28 00:26:29 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:26:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install
References: <000a01c58e62$be555610$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805><BAY103-DAV627EDA34DF58782227F54AEC90@phx.gbl><002901c590ab$8fe53de0$6601a8c0@user><BAY103-DAV515AE9B1C3C3EAFD756FCAECA0@phx.gbl><00b501c59246$20f72140$6601a8c0@user><BAY103-DAV17E0928E7F20E7D65F2C9BAECF0@phx.gbl>
	<001901c5931b$8744a4b0$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV64B448E78E740D92A1FCAAECF0@phx.gbl>

..hhhmmm ...either I'm misreading you or there is a fundamental 
misunderstanding somewhere in here ...a runtime mdb/mde is exactly the same 
as a full install mdb/mde ...the difference is that Access itself is not 
fully installed in a runtime ...the design/coding elements are not there so 
a user can't change anything ...it runs exactly as you designed it to run.

..if you have an A97 mdb and an A2k runtime it should still run as long as 
the references are there ...but the reverse is not true ...so I use startup 
code to check the installed version and call the corresponding fe mdb/mde.

..if you invest in the wise install tools, they handle those issues much 
better than the native Access distribution tools do and the default is to 
let them do all the work for you.

William

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:24 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install


<<...runtimes won't solve version change problems.....
Really?

Are you saying that if you distribute a runtime and users then install eg. a 
newer version of Access then it can play up? Sounds like a 
headache....exactly the kind of problem I have now.

Kath
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  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..pretty much the same way you do Kath but I make the changes on my
  development system ...test it on my client simulator system ...and then 
put
  a new fe on the network for normal update by the runtime systems.

  ..runtimes won't solve version change problems ...but you can build code
  into your startup to check the current version and load the correct 
runtime
  if you anticipate version changes ...that's a bit of work and only works
  transparently if MS doesn't throw a monkey wrench into things ...the damn
  "sandbox" in 2003 is a "*(&%$ example of such ...code runs fine in full
  Access but errors all over the place in the runtime ...so far I've just
  disabled it ...the "new" file dialog object is another example of 
something
  that works fine in full mode and not at all in runtime :(

  William

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  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..hhmmm....thinking over the pros and cons.....I am getting very tired of
  clients changing office versions etc etc and having the app crash.

  And I am getting very sick of setting refs and finding that some users end
  up with it missing - whoops - crash again. So runtime should solve both
  those issues?

  On the other hand, with my main client (using full Access install) I can 
get
  straight on to their PC online using VNC, make a change to the mdb, 
recreate
  the mde and post it to the network from where it gets automatically
  downloaded the next time all users open it.

  That would be much harder with runtime, wouldn't it? How do you distribute
  upgrades?

  Kath
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    Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:15 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    ..yes ...lessons learned the hard way ...give a client full Access and
    "things" happen ...bad things ..."upgrade" that client to the newest
  version
    of Office Standard (w/runtime) rather than Office Pro and save them a 
lot
  of
    money ...its amazing how many strange happenings stop happening to your
  apps
    :(

    William

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    Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:58 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    <<how does anyone that actually supports distributed
    Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having
  full
    Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve
  first

    William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

    Kath
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: William Hindman
      To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
      Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
      Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


      ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing
  around
      VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name
  is
      similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports
    cleanly,
      at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

      ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports
  distributed
      Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having
    full
      Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve
    first
      :(

      William

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
      To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
      <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
      Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
      Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


      > William,
      >
      > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in
  the
      > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes.
  The
      > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the 
controls,
    the
      > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual
      > Studio.
      >
      > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have
    never
      > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even
    purchased
      > it
      > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is 
very
      > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
      >
      > John W. Colby
      > www.ColbyConsulting.com
      >
      > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
      > http://folding.stanford.edu/
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
      > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
    Hindman
      > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
      > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
      > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
      >
      >
      > JC
      >
      > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual 
Studio
      > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of
  VB.net
    in
      > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go 
the
      > VBExpress route instead?
      >
      > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
      >
      > William
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
      > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
      > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
      > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
      >
      >
      >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
      >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own 
IDE
      >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and 
feels
      >> almost identical to the
      >> Visual Studio however.
      >>
      >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
      >>
      >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
      >> available.
      >> I
      >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done 
(some)
      >> videos
      >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they
    would
      >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty
    quickly,
      >> and
      >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will
  show
      >> you
      >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so
    far)
      >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
      >>
      >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
      >> video series right now.
      >>
      >> John W. Colby
      >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
      >>
      >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
      >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
      >>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jul 28 01:37:15 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:37:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
References: <200507280406.j6S46vR30843@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <42E87D1B.9080308@shaw.ca>

Nah I have a kid brother who teaches this stuff in university to law 
students
and he bugs me about it occasionally. This stuff changes fast. Five 
years ago even computer forensics
was mickey mouse, now you need a Ph.D. in Comp Sci. Even local cops
are grabbing accelerometer data out of car computers for crash analysis 
and evidence.
The complete software and hardware to do it is available for under $500.
I used to escrow software with a local friendly lawyer 15 years ago
He did it as an oddity, just to say he was the only guy in the city 
doing it.
And I gave him a couple of dozen new clients
Now it has turned into an industry with earthquake proof vaults.

Arthur Fuller wrote:

>Thanks for the addendum, Marty!
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: July 27, 2005 4:58 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
>
>Here is a US software escrow FAQ, Europe may differ on laws.
>A local lawyer who practices IP Intellectual Property rights or 
>copyright law.
>or some banks in Europe used to provide this service alongside Financial 
>Escrow.
>might do it cheaper. But if you are putting out a lot of versions, the 
>US price $500 - $750 sounds right
>for a escrow company that does this on a daily basis.
>http://www.softescrow.com/faq.html
>
>Arthur Fuller wrote:
>
>  
>
>>My Dutch is pretty shaky (I know only about 5 words, of which my favourite
>>is the word for vacuum cleaner) so I will respond in English. In a
>>    
>>
>situation
>  
>
>>such as this (assuming the good intentions of the client), what the client
>>is primarily concerned about is what happens should you get run over by a
>>tram or meet some similar demise. What you are concerned about is
>>    
>>
>protecting
>  
>
>>your source code. To protect both parties, you place the source code in
>>escrow, which means in the hands of a disinterested party. Should the tram
>>kill you, the client gets the code. Should you avoid collisions with a
>>    
>>
>tram,
>  
>
>>your source code is safe.
>>
>>Arthur
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jul 28 06:19:12 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:19:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C381F3@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED81@ADGSERVER>

Yes, I always do a decompile/compact/recompile before creating an MDE.  I
dunno if it makes a difference, but sometimes it will not compile to an MDE
if I do not decompile first.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Locking question


Are you sure the FE was decompiled/compiled before it was converted to an
MDE?  Or since the code is 'removed' maybe that doesn't make a difference.

Dan Waters



From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Jul 28 08:24:37 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:24:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EB02E3@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

I am trying to feed a variable into a parameter query. I have done this
with dates but cannot get the syntax right (correct combination of
single, double quotes etc.) on pushing this text field into the query.
If someone has a better way to push a variable into a parameter query
feel free to jump in. Thanks all. Below is the code.

 

Option Compare Database

 

Function Table_Data_to_Parameter_Query()

 

    Dim MyDb As Database, MyQDef As QueryDef, myds As Recordset, myds1
As Recordset

    Dim strSQL As String, Table_Data As String

    

    Set MyDb = CurrentDb()

    Set myds = MyDb.OpenRecordset("tbl Patterns to Run", dbOpenTable)

    Set MyQDef2 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern Start Date")

    

    PatternName = myds.Fields(0)

 

    strSQL = "SELECT Pattern, [CO2 Injection Start Date Schedule1]" & _

    "FROM [tbl Schedules]" & _

    "WHERE [tbl Schedules].Pattern=PatternName;"

 

    Set MyQDef = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern Start Date")

    MyQDef.SQL = strSQL

    Set myds1 = MyQDef.OpenRecordset()

    Table_Data = myds1.Fields(0)

    

    Set MyQDef = Nothing

 

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Jul 28 08:33:28 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:33:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233772C@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

try

"WHERE [tbl Schedules].Pattern=" & PatternName & ";"
Regards,
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query


I am trying to feed a variable into a parameter query. I have done this
with dates but cannot get the syntax right (correct combination of
single, double quotes etc.) on pushing this text field into the query.
If someone has a better way to push a variable into a parameter query
feel free to jump in. Thanks all. Below is the code.

 

Option Compare Database

 

Function Table_Data_to_Parameter_Query()

 

    Dim MyDb As Database, MyQDef As QueryDef, myds As Recordset, myds1
As Recordset

    Dim strSQL As String, Table_Data As String

    

    Set MyDb = CurrentDb()

    Set myds = MyDb.OpenRecordset("tbl Patterns to Run", dbOpenTable)

    Set MyQDef2 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern Start Date")

    

    PatternName = myds.Fields(0)

 

    strSQL = "SELECT Pattern, [CO2 Injection Start Date Schedule1]" & _

    "FROM [tbl Schedules]" & _

    "WHERE [tbl Schedules].Pattern=PatternName;"

 

    Set MyQDef = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern Start Date")

    MyQDef.SQL = strSQL

    Set myds1 = MyQDef.OpenRecordset()

    Table_Data = myds1.Fields(0)

    

    Set MyQDef = Nothing

 

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Thu Jul 28 08:35:37 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:35:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EB02E3@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <000001c59379$3de12ba0$2e01a8c0@dorismanning>

Try

    strSQL = "SELECT Pattern, [CO2 Injection Start Date Schedule1]" & _

    "FROM [tbl Schedules]" & _

    "WHERE [tbl Schedules].Pattern= '" & PatternName & "';"

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.




From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Thu Jul 28 08:40:34 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:40:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Huge Access Database was wrongly named Re: AccessD
	Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35
References: <OFCAD7FBAE.96D03B6A-ONCA25704C.00171874@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <04e201c59379$f204bd90$0302a8c0@default>

Connie,

475,000 is not that many records that they needed to
go to such extremes as to make these separate tables
in separate databases.

You should be able to achieve the same result they got
in the subsequent (4th) databases by using simple queries and
manage the searches/edits through there. They may have
somehow changed the data/structure of those tables, though,
and that could be why they're worried.

You'll need a few queries - one based upon the next:

The first query will simply be a date range - fast and simple.
This can only produce a number of records that could possibly
have been entered (from paper records) within that date range.
Results may need to be appended to a temp table to increase
performance.

The second query will be based upon the first (or temp table) and
have another general criteria that the desired records have in common

Edits can take place upon the temp table and then an update query
can edit the original table.

There are also data-mining methods where data is denormalized
and translation tables used to get at data quickly, but I think Charlotte
would be better at explaining this ...
----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: <connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:30 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Huge Access Database was wrongly named Re: AccessD
Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35


>
> Matty,
>
> Yes the data is all entered into the original Database. The 4th DB is
> actrually the data they need to export as a commercial venture (my
headache
> is getting worse LOL). The original data is entered from old records and
> until I create the new relational model with a shiny new SQL backend this
> is the only electronic record of the data. The need is there to be able to
> seperate this based on the date it was entered and store as a historical
> record, Problem is they may need to search the historical data for a
> specific record. I am unsure of the best way to manage this volume of
> records I guess. There is a unique number per record, it is the serial
> number given by the database. The criteria they will search on is a 16
> digit alphanumeric field. It is probably simple, but as I have not dealt
> with the whole historical record managemnt thing I am looking for advice
on
> how to manage this in the interim. That and I wanted to share this as a
> hall of fame use of Access, LOL.
>
> John,
>
> What was the amusing bit??? The use of Access or my amazement.... *grin*
> .... they obviously didn't have access to this group or they would have
> known better huh?
>
> Connie Kamrowski
>
> Analyst/Programmer
> Information Technology
> NSW Department of Primary Industries
> Orange
>
> >They firstly store approximately 475000 records in one table in an
> > Access Database, They then run a query on this database which
> > creates 385000+ records and sticks them in a second database,
> > they then run a query on this one generating 285000 records and
> > store this in ... you guessed it Database number 3. To finish it off
> > they query again, store the results in a 4th database and use this
> > one for day to day business.
>
> Connie, can it be assumed that data-entry is done in the first db?
> Or, are you saying that records are transferred from the fourth db
> to the first at the end of the day? Perhaps they are even pulling such
> data from a different database system?
>
> ...
> > they wish to archive off some of the records in the largest database.
> > They would however need to be able to search and manipulate these
> > records. What is the best way to manage this?
>
> If I read into this correctly, there are several records per account and
> your new relational system will keep the track of the account number.
> As long as there is a Primary Key AutoNumber that can relate to a Long
> in the archive table(s), you can just use SQL for searches and edits.
> Perhaps it is not this simple, though ... ? What's missing?
>
>
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Jul 28 08:47:21 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:47:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233772D@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

If your variable is text, use Doris's solution (the single quotes are
important), for numbers mine should work.
Jim Hale 

-----Original Message-----
From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query


try

"WHERE [tbl Schedules].Pattern=" & PatternName & ";"
Regards,
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query


I am trying to feed a variable into a parameter query. I have done this
with dates but cannot get the syntax right (correct combination of
single, double quotes etc.) on pushing this text field into the query.
If someone has a better way to push a variable into a parameter query
feel free to jump in. Thanks all. Below is the code.

 

Option Compare Database

 

Function Table_Data_to_Parameter_Query()

 

    Dim MyDb As Database, MyQDef As QueryDef, myds As Recordset, myds1
As Recordset

    Dim strSQL As String, Table_Data As String

    

    Set MyDb = CurrentDb()

    Set myds = MyDb.OpenRecordset("tbl Patterns to Run", dbOpenTable)

    Set MyQDef2 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern Start Date")

    

    PatternName = myds.Fields(0)

 

    strSQL = "SELECT Pattern, [CO2 Injection Start Date Schedule1]" & _

    "FROM [tbl Schedules]" & _

    "WHERE [tbl Schedules].Pattern=PatternName;"

 

    Set MyQDef = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern Start Date")

    MyQDef.SQL = strSQL

    Set myds1 = MyQDef.OpenRecordset()

    Table_Data = myds1.Fields(0)

    

    Set MyQDef = Nothing

 

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Jul 28 08:47:28 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:47:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EB02F7@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Thanks. That got it.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query

Try

    strSQL = "SELECT Pattern, [CO2 Injection Start Date Schedule1]" & _

    "FROM [tbl Schedules]" & _

    "WHERE [tbl Schedules].Pattern= '" & PatternName & "';"

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.


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From Jeff at outbaktech.com  Thu Jul 28 09:37:56 2005
From: Jeff at outbaktech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:37:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: [dba-Tech] RE: [dba-OT] Cross Posted: Looking for a
	.NET developernear Neenah, WI
Message-ID: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D0D913D@belgarion.Outbak.local>

I have already responded to one individual off-list.  If anyone else is interested in additional information, please contact me directly at the email address in my signature.
 
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Phone: 886-5913
Fax: 886-5932
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jul 28 10:19:05 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:19:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B5B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Yep, SageKey is a must for distributing runtimes, regardless of which
installer you use.  Their support is also incredible!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au
[mailto:connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install


Not so impressive, they are not concurrent :) Just potentially so. 
Databases are not always deployed across all users.  I was referencing
the 
fact that we have deployed at least one database to these users and
their 
specific environments and have not had problems. 

Because of the way sagekey works we have found that as long as we 
encapsulate all of the things we reference into the sagekey runtime, we 
have had no issues at all. It may be worth a look at their website
http://www.sagekey.com/ for a run down of what it does and what they
promise. Just a suggestion 
but it has worked really well for us with the issues we were having
cross 
deploying and installing upgrades.

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries 
Orange

Ph: 02 6391 3250
Fax:02 6391 3290


Hi Connie - thanks for the reply. 2500 users? That's pretty impressive. 
Did you notice William's email? Have you had the version change problems

he mentions?

Kath


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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 28 10:23:25 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:23:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] strip the apostrophe's
Message-ID: <BAY104-F2477A29D06E9E3ACB796609ACF0@phx.gbl>

Hi,

I'm using a sql statement behind a search box to return the member's name as 
a result of a search with the data being displayed by the user choosing a 
query (button) or a report (button).  All was well until I ran into the data 
below:


Joe's Electrical


My sql statement errors out because it cannot handle the extra apostrophe.  
Should I be stripping any extra syntax before I process the sql statement, 
or should I test for this condition and handle this in a separate routine?


Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From Robin at rolledgold.net  Thu Jul 28 10:25:53 2005
From: Robin at rolledgold.net (Robin )
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:25:53 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] strip the apostrophe's
Message-ID: <560E2B80EC8F624B93A87B943B7A9CD52E2B9B@rgiserv.rg.local>

Julie,
Have a look at this
http://www.kamath.com/codelibrary/cl003_apostrophe.asp
Rgds
Robin Lawrence

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Julie Reardon-Taylor [mailto:prosoft6 at hotmail.com] 
	Sent: Thu 28/07/2005 16:23 
	To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
	Cc: 
	Subject: [AccessD] strip the apostrophe's
	
	

	Hi,
	
	I'm using a sql statement behind a search box to return the member's name as
	a result of a search with the data being displayed by the user choosing a
	query (button) or a report (button).  All was well until I ran into the data
	below:
	
	
	Joe's Electrical
	
	
	My sql statement errors out because it cannot handle the extra apostrophe. 
	Should I be stripping any extra syntax before I process the sql statement,
	or should I test for this condition and handle this in a separate routine?
	
	
	Julie Reardon-Taylor
	PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
	44 Public Square Suite #5
	Watertown, NY 13601
	Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
	www.pro-soft.net
	
	
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jul 28 10:34:36 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:34:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Huge Access Database was wrongly named Re: AccessD
	Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35 
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A6B6@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Connie,

I just have to ask:  how many FIELDS are in that single table??  I
suspect it can be broken into multiple tables in a relational scheme and
the users will never know the difference, but the data mining they want
to do and the archiving requires a slightly different design approach,
so you probably will still wind up with two databases, one for data
entry/capture and one for data warehousing/archiving.  

I highly recommend Ralph Kimball's book The Data Warehouse Toolkit
(watch out for a wrap)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0471153370/002-6258971-950
0008?v=glance as a reference for building dimensional data warehouses.
Once you get your head around the concepts, including the star schema,
the design is simply a matter of how you want to use it.  Data retrieval
from dimensional data warehouses is very fast and requires minimal
querying because of the nature of the structure. 

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au
[mailto:connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:31 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Huge Access Database was wrongly named Re:
AccessD Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35 



Matty,

Yes the data is all entered into the original Database. The 4th DB is
actrually the data they need to export as a commercial venture (my
headache is getting worse LOL). The original data is entered from old
records and until I create the new relational model with a shiny new SQL
backend this is the only electronic record of the data. The need is
there to be able to seperate this based on the date it was entered and
store as a historical record, Problem is they may need to search the
historical data for a specific record. I am unsure of the best way to
manage this volume of records I guess. There is a unique number per
record, it is the serial number given by the database. The criteria they
will search on is a 16 digit alphanumeric field. It is probably simple,
but as I have not dealt with the whole historical record managemnt thing
I am looking for advice on how to manage this in the interim. That and I
wanted to share this as a hall of fame use of Access, LOL.

John,

What was the amusing bit??? The use of Access or my amazement.... *grin*
.... they obviously didn't have access to this group or they would have
known better huh?

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange

>They firstly store approximately 475000 records in one table in an  
>Access Database, They then run a query on this database which  creates 
>385000+ records and sticks them in a second database,  they then run a 
>query on this one generating 285000 records and  store this in ... you 
>guessed it Database number 3. To finish it off  they query again, store

>the results in a 4th database and use this  one for day to day 
>business.

Connie, can it be assumed that data-entry is done in the first db? Or,
are you saying that records are transferred from the fourth db to the
first at the end of the day? Perhaps they are even pulling such data
from a different database system?

...
> they wish to archive off some of the records in the largest database. 
> They would however need to be able to search and manipulate these 
> records. What is the best way to manage this?

If I read into this correctly, there are several records per account and
your new relational system will keep the track of the account number. As
long as there is a Primary Key AutoNumber that can relate to a Long in
the archive table(s), you can just use SQL for searches and edits.
Perhaps it is not this simple, though ... ? What's missing?



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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Thu Jul 28 10:38:34 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:38:34 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] strip the apostrophe's
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F2477A29D06E9E3ACB796609ACF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAB6XSoDANkRBroD5/9XJcvgBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Julie,

I think I used to do something like the following:

	Dim strSQL As String
	Dim strName as string

	If InStr([Field],"'")>0 ) then
		strName = 
		strSQL = "SELECT [Fields] FROM [Table] WHERE
Left([Field],InStr([Field],"'")-1) & Mid([Field],InStr([Field],"'")+1) = '"
& strName & "'"
	Else
		strSQL = "SELECT [Fields] FROM [Table] WHERE [Field] = '" &
strName & "'"
	Endif

Written off top of my head, so may need modifying

Paul
	

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Julie
Reardon-Taylor
Sent: 28 July 2005 16:23
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] strip the apostrophe's

Hi,

I'm using a sql statement behind a search box to return the member's name as
a result of a search with the data being displayed by the user choosing a
query (button) or a report (button).  All was well until I ran into the data
below:


Joe's Electrical


My sql statement errors out because it cannot handle the extra apostrophe.  
Should I be stripping any extra syntax before I process the sql statement,
or should I test for this condition and handle this in a separate routine?


Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net


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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Jul 28 11:08:07 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:08:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EB0342@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

The following SQL returns a missing operator message yet if I put it in
the query grid all is good. That is a semi colon at the end even though
hard to see. Maybe I am just going blind from looking at it and not
seeing the error.

 

strSQL = "SELECT concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"FROM [tbl Patterns]" & _

"INNER JOIN [tbl WAG] ON [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme] = [tbl WAG].[WAG
Scheme]" & _

"WHERE Pattern = '" & PatternName & "' " & _

"GROUP BY concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

 

Set MyQDef1 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern WAG Scheme")

MyQDef1.SQL = strSQL

Set myds1 = MyQDef1.OpenRecordset().

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Jul 28 11:27:57 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:27:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F13777929@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Could it be the very last couple of lines?...

Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

... There's no space after 'Comment' so this string winds up being

"Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, CommentORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query


The following SQL returns a missing operator message yet if I put it in the
query grid all is good. That is a semi colon at the end even though hard to
see. Maybe I am just going blind from looking at it and not seeing the
error.

 

strSQL = "SELECT concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"FROM [tbl Patterns]" & _

"INNER JOIN [tbl WAG] ON [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme] = [tbl WAG].[WAG
Scheme]" & _

"WHERE Pattern = '" & PatternName & "' " & _

"GROUP BY concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

 

Set MyQDef1 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern WAG Scheme")

MyQDef1.SQL = strSQL

Set myds1 = MyQDef1.OpenRecordset().

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jul 28 11:36:46 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:36:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C38415@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED8C@ADGSERVER>

For that matter, there are missing spaces at the end of many of the lines.

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query


Could it be the very last couple of lines?...

Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

... There's no space after 'Comment' so this string winds up being

"Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, CommentORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query


The following SQL returns a missing operator message yet if I put it in the
query grid all is good. That is a semi colon at the end even though hard to
see. Maybe I am just going blind from looking at it and not seeing the
error.

 

strSQL = "SELECT concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"FROM [tbl Patterns]" & _

"INNER JOIN [tbl WAG] ON [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme] = [tbl WAG].[WAG
Scheme]" & _

"WHERE Pattern = '" & PatternName & "' " & _

"GROUP BY concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

 

Set MyQDef1 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern WAG Scheme")

MyQDef1.SQL = strSQL

Set myds1 = MyQDef1.OpenRecordset().

 

Chester Kaup



From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Jul 28 12:05:11 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:05:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EB0353@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Thnaks everyone. Another set of eyes looking sometimes helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query

For that matter, there are missing spaces at the end of many of the
lines.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query


Could it be the very last couple of lines?...

Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

... There's no space after 'Comment' so this string winds up being

"Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, CommentORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query


The following SQL returns a missing operator message yet if I put it in
the
query grid all is good. That is a semi colon at the end even though hard
to
see. Maybe I am just going blind from looking at it and not seeing the
error.

 

strSQL = "SELECT concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"FROM [tbl Patterns]" & _

"INNER JOIN [tbl WAG] ON [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme] = [tbl WAG].[WAG
Scheme]" & _

"WHERE Pattern = '" & PatternName & "' " & _

"GROUP BY concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

 

Set MyQDef1 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern WAG Scheme")

MyQDef1.SQL = strSQL

Set myds1 = MyQDef1.OpenRecordset().

 

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jul 28 13:06:18 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:06:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
References: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EB0353@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <42E91E9A.7050309@shaw.ca>

When I get one of these I look for reserved words and do a
debug.print strSQL
"And all is revealed"
It sure beats having to look through a 200 page hexadecimal dump printout..

Kaup, Chester wrote:

>Thnaks everyone. Another set of eyes looking sometimes helps.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
>Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:37 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
>
>For that matter, there are missing spaces at the end of many of the
>lines.
>
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
>Lambert
>Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:28 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
>
>
>Could it be the very last couple of lines?...
>
>Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _
>
>"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"
>
>... There's no space after 'Comment' so this string winds up being
>
>"Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, CommentORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"
>
>Lambert
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
>Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:08 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
>
>
>The following SQL returns a missing operator message yet if I put it in
>the
>query grid all is good. That is a semi colon at the end even though hard
>to
>see. Maybe I am just going blind from looking at it and not seeing the
>error.
>
> 
>
>strSQL = "SELECT concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
>Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _
>
>"FROM [tbl Patterns]" & _
>
>"INNER JOIN [tbl WAG] ON [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme] = [tbl WAG].[WAG
>Scheme]" & _
>
>"WHERE Pattern = '" & PatternName & "' " & _
>
>"GROUP BY concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
>Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _
>
>"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"
>
> 
>
>Set MyQDef1 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern WAG Scheme")
>
>MyQDef1.SQL = strSQL
>
>Set myds1 = MyQDef1.OpenRecordset().
>
> 
>
>Chester Kaup
>
>  
>

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Canada





From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Jul 28 19:10:15 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:10:15 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install
References: <OF4407B1B7.1C627C41-ONCA25704C.001993E3@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <003f01c593d1$e683ea60$6601a8c0@user>

I do own Wise and Sagekey,having bought them for a distribution for a client a couple of years ago. Unfortunately I didn't get to learn much after the initial install (which was very successful after a couple of attempts and the support was good). But the company was bought out and they changed platforms so I never moved on to distributing upgrades.

So far every one of my clients have had Access so I have gone that way but I am rethinking it. This month one of my clients hit  a snag which cost them a day at a crucial time  of the month because Frontpage was uninstalled from the PC and I had a reference set to it - that the kind of problem I am getting.

Thanks for the advice,

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 2:46 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install


  Not so impressive, they are not concurrent :) Just potentially so. 
  Databases are not always deployed across all users.  I was referencing the 
  fact that we have deployed at least one database to these users and their 
  specific environments and have not had problems. 

  Because of the way sagekey works we have found that as long as we 
  encapsulate all of the things we reference into the sagekey runtime, we 
  have had no issues at all. It may be worth a look at their website http://www.sagekey.com/ for a run down of what it does and what they promise. Just a suggestion 
  but it has worked really well for us with the issues we were having cross 
  deploying and installing upgrades.

  Connie Kamrowski

  Analyst/Programmer
  Information Technology
  NSW Department of Primary Industries 
  Orange

  Ph: 02 6391 3250
  Fax:02 6391 3290


  Hi Connie - thanks for the reply. 2500 users? That's pretty impressive. 
  Did you notice William's email? Have you had the version change problems 
  he mentions?

  Kath


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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Fri Jul 29 07:26:57 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 17:56:57 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
References: <BAY104-F249F5766FEF20EA461B29D9ACD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <021101c59438$e5e4e570$b71865cb@winxp>

Julie,

    Two of my sample db's mentioned below, might be of interest to you. 
    (a) LicenseLock
    (b) TrialSet

    These are available at Rogers Access Library (other developers library). Link - http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Julie Reardon-Taylor 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 20:30
  Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days


  I'd like to put a demo on my website as a download and have it run for 30 
  days, checking the stored date against the system date.  I know I've seen 
  this somewhere, but cannot seem to find the code.  Can anyone point me in 
  the right direction?



  Julie Reardon-Taylor
  PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
  44 Public Square Suite #5
  Watertown, NY 13601
  Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
  www.pro-soft.net


From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jul 29 08:43:16 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:43:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F13777B15@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

A MAGAZINE RECENTLY RAN A "DILBERT QUOTES" CONTEST. IT SOUGHT PEOPLE TO
SUBMIT QUOTES FROM THEIR REAL-LIFE "DILBERT-TYPE" MANAGERS. HERE ARE THE TOP
TEN FINALISTS: 

1. "As of tomorrow, employees will only be able to access the building using
individual security cards. Pictures will be taken next Wednesday and
employees will receive their cards in two weeks." 
(The Winner) 
----------------------------------------------- 
2. "What I need is an exact list of specific unknown problems we might
encounter." 
(Lykes Lines Shipping) 
----------------------------------------------- 
3. "E-mail is not to be used to pass on information or data. It should be
used only for company business." 
(Accounting manager, Electric Boat Company) 
----------------------------------------------- 
4. "This project is so important, we can't let things that are more
important interfere with it." 
(Advertising/Marketing manager, United Parcel Service) 

----------------------------------------------- 
5. "Doing it right is no excuse for not meeting the schedule. 
(Plant manager, Delco Corporation) 
----------------------------------------------- 
6. "No one will believe you solved this problem in one day! They've been
working on it for months. Now, go act busy for a few weeks and I'll let you
know when it's time to tell them." 
(R&D supervisor, Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing /3M Corp.) 
----------------------------------------------- 
7. Quote from the Boss: "Teamwork is a lot of people doing what I say." 
(Marketing executive, Citrix Corporation) 
----------------------------------------------- 
8. My sister passed away and her funeral was scheduled for Monday. When I
told my Boss, he said she died on purpose so that I would have to miss work
on the busiest day of the year. He then asked if we could change her burial
to Friday. He said, "That would be better for me." 
(Shipping executive, FTD Florists) 
9. "We know that communication is a problem, but the company is not going to
discuss it with the employees." 
(Switching supervisor, AT&T Long Lines Division) 
LOL, now that's just priceless. 
----------------------------------------------- 
10. One day my Boss asked me to submit a status report to him concerning a
project I was working on. I asked him if tomorrow would be soon enough. He
said, "If I wanted it tomorrow, I would have waited until tomorrow to ask
for it!" 
(Hallmark Cards executive) 


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great anger, do not answer anyone's letter. ? Chinese proverb 




From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 30 10:43:32 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:43:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <aea6c495050727114576b2dbdb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFCELLEFAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Gary,

  No, you hit it right on the head.  If Access cannot create a LDB file, it
opens the MDB/MDE in exclusive mode.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking question


Hi Bobby,

The users need to have File Creation rights in the folder that the BE
database lives in so the LDB file can be created. Is there an LDB file
being created for the BE when the first user is in there? I think with
one user it will allow access without being able to create the LDB
file but will lock out the second user? I could be out in left field
wandering in my own dream world too of course. I do know that users of
our Access databases need full file creation, change and deletion
rights in the folder or else it doesn't work.

On 7/27/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Our clients use our system on a network where each user has a FE against
the
> BE on the server.  While the app was originally written to all be on the
> local pc, it has migrated to the server.  Usually all goes well.
>
> Well, this one client has some weird happenings going on.  One user will
be
> in the database in any given form.  Another user cannot get access to the
BE
> until the 1st user exits the form they were in.  The first thing the app
> does is to relink the tables to the last BE that was loaded.  It sounds
like
> there are some sort of issues with locking and the LDB file.
>
> Anyone have any pointers?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jul 30 23:43:27 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:43:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Error 550
Message-ID: <000901c5958a$660f6e80$0300a8c0@ColbyM6805>

Does anyone understand what is going on with email sent from inside of
specific networks.  Here's the situation...

I get the following error (as an example):

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

      Subject:	RE: Logging in to George
      Sent:	7/29/2005 1:00 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

      'Jason Ralph' on 7/29/2005 1:00 PM
            550 not local host invohealthcare.com, not a gateway

>From my sister-in-law's house when I try to send to this specific address,
using SMPT server mail.colbyconsulting.com.  If I send mail to myself I do
not get this problem (to jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com).  I have seen this
exact same symptom if sending from my client.  It never happened before from
my sister-in-law's but is now.

It turns out that if I look at her email smtp server
(mail.rochester.rr.com), and modify my smtp server to match it works.  It
appears that this is the classic port 25 blocking thing.  It is a royal PITA
to have to find out what the correct smtp server is, modify Outlook, and
send to that whenever I move from place to place.

At my previous host for MY WEB SITE, they had me set up to send on a
different port (26 maybe?) and then it worked regardless of where I was
since only port 25 was being blocked and my web email server
(mail.colbyconsulting.com) was expecting traffic on a different port.

The odd part here is that I can send to myself (always), i.e.
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com.  That must go on port 25 as well, so why does
that go just fine, but not the other message?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Sat Jul 30 23:51:28 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 23:51:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Error 550
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016DB80@main2.marlow.com>

It depends on how they have THEIR mail server setup.  With the onslaught of
spam, a lot of mail servers get down right finicky on what it will let
through.  I know my personal domain is/was blocked on several mail servers
because the IP's in my domain were listed as dynamic, instead of static,
which they WERE static.  If the domain of the email you are sending 'from'
doesn't match the IP's sending the mail, that's another big 'block'.  Then
there are several 'black lists' on the web, which store domains considered
to be spam.

Honestly, it's an issue that is a sore point for me (both spam, and the
methods used to block).  

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 11:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Tech - Database
Advisors Inc.
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Error 550


Does anyone understand what is going on with email sent from inside of
specific networks.  Here's the situation...

I get the following error (as an example):

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

      Subject:	RE: Logging in to George
      Sent:	7/29/2005 1:00 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

      'Jason Ralph' on 7/29/2005 1:00 PM
            550 not local host invohealthcare.com, not a gateway

>From my sister-in-law's house when I try to send to this specific address,
using SMPT server mail.colbyconsulting.com.  If I send mail to myself I do
not get this problem (to jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com).  I have seen this
exact same symptom if sending from my client.  It never happened before from
my sister-in-law's but is now.

It turns out that if I look at her email smtp server
(mail.rochester.rr.com), and modify my smtp server to match it works.  It
appears that this is the classic port 25 blocking thing.  It is a royal PITA
to have to find out what the correct smtp server is, modify Outlook, and
send to that whenever I move from place to place.

At my previous host for MY WEB SITE, they had me set up to send on a
different port (26 maybe?) and then it worked regardless of where I was
since only port 25 was being blocked and my web email server
(mail.colbyconsulting.com) was expecting traffic on a different port.

The odd part here is that I can send to myself (always), i.e.
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com.  That must go on port 25 as well, so why does
that go just fine, but not the other message?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jul 31 00:31:17 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 01:31:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Error 550
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016DB80@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c59591$17cb1970$0300a8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yea, but it is more than that.  If I just send a test message to myself, it
just goes.  A few minutes later it comes back in just fine.  If I send to
one of these other places, it INSTANTLY gets this 550 error in my inbox.  If
I then change from using mail.colbyconsulting.com as the smtp server address
to the "local" smtp address (RR address) it goes out just fine.  So it is
not a case of "we don't like this destination".  It is just forcing me to
send through their mail server, but NOT when sending to my own mail server.
Truly odd don't you think?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 12:51 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Error 550


It depends on how they have THEIR mail server setup.  With the onslaught of
spam, a lot of mail servers get down right finicky on what it will let
through.  I know my personal domain is/was blocked on several mail servers
because the IP's in my domain were listed as dynamic, instead of static,
which they WERE static.  If the domain of the email you are sending 'from'
doesn't match the IP's sending the mail, that's another big 'block'.  Then
there are several 'black lists' on the web, which store domains considered
to be spam.

Honestly, it's an issue that is a sore point for me (both spam, and the
methods used to block).  

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 11:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Tech - Database
Advisors Inc.
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Error 550


Does anyone understand what is going on with email sent from inside of
specific networks.  Here's the situation...

I get the following error (as an example):

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

      Subject:	RE: Logging in to George
      Sent:	7/29/2005 1:00 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

      'Jason Ralph' on 7/29/2005 1:00 PM
            550 not local host invohealthcare.com, not a gateway

>From my sister-in-law's house when I try to send to this specific 
>address,
using SMPT server mail.colbyconsulting.com.  If I send mail to myself I do
not get this problem (to jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com).  I have seen this
exact same symptom if sending from my client.  It never happened before from
my sister-in-law's but is now.

It turns out that if I look at her email smtp server
(mail.rochester.rr.com), and modify my smtp server to match it works.  It
appears that this is the classic port 25 blocking thing.  It is a royal PITA
to have to find out what the correct smtp server is, modify Outlook, and
send to that whenever I move from place to place.

At my previous host for MY WEB SITE, they had me set up to send on a
different port (26 maybe?) and then it worked regardless of where I was
since only port 25 was being blocked and my web email server
(mail.colbyconsulting.com) was expecting traffic on a different port.

The odd part here is that I can send to myself (always), i.e.
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com.  That must go on port 25 as well, so why does
that go just fine, but not the other message?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From joeget at vgernet.net  Sun Jul 31 19:02:20 2005
From: joeget at vgernet.net (John Eget)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 20:02:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] mde....mdb format
Message-ID: <002101c5962c$4d06dcf0$ebc2f63f@Desktop>

I have correctly complied and ran a mdb database with no errors, yet when i convert to mde i get the error pop that the command on a click event is not available in a mde/ade format. has anyone came across this before,  what happens when i create a mde?

Thanks for looking
John 

From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  1 00:38:29 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:38:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Check date-time problem
In-Reply-To: <42C44811.6050000@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <20050701053829.34085.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Example:

current time=21:37
StartPauzeAt=21:00
EndPauzeAt=3:00

The following statement checks if current time is
between startpauze and endpauze:
If (dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) And
(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) Then

(dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) = TRUE
21:37           > 21:00          = TRUE
(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) = FALSE
21:37           < 3:00         = FALSE!!

So the problem is that I'm missing a day factor here.
How can I implement this. The StartPauzeAt and
EndPauzeAt are flexibel and can be changed at any
time.

So what I need is:
If dtmCrntDateTime > dtmStartPauze AND dtmCrntDateTime
< dtmStartPauze then
IF 1-jun-2005 21:37 > 1-jun-2005 21:00 AND
1-jun-2005 21:37    < 2-jun-2005 3:00

Hope this makes sence.

SD


--- MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca> wrote:

> So what is the problem, are you running more than 24
> hours?
> 
> Sad Der wrote:
> 
> >Hi group,
> >
> >I've got an ini file with the following values:
> >[PauzeScheduling]
> >StartPauzeAt=21:00
> >EndPauzeAt=3:00
> >
> >I've got a 'service' that checks if the
> Currenttime:
> >dtmCurrentTime = CDate(Format(Time(), "hh:mm"))
> >
> >Is between these values. 
> >
> >It worked fine. Settings used to be within a day.
> >Somebody has got to have dealt with this problem
> >before.
> >What is a (very) solid way to handle this problem?
> >Keep in mind that this is a long running schedule
> >(e.g. forever?!)
> >
> >Thnx.
> >SD
> >
> >Here's my code:
> >
>
>'=========================================================================================
> >' Function Name      :  PauzeScheduling
> >' Parameters         :  dtmCurrentTime => Current
> >Time' Return value       :  (Boolean) True:
> >CurrentTime between scheduled times
> >' Purpose            :  Check if current time is
> >within the scheduled times of the ini file
> >' Assumptions        :  ---
> >' Uses               :  ---
> >' Created            :  2005-Jun-03 08:55, SaDe
> >' Modifications      :
>
>'=========================================================================================
> >Public Function PauzeScheduling(dtmCurrentTime As
> >Date) As Boolean
> >   Dim dtmStartPauze As Date
> >   Dim dtmEndPauze As Date
> >   
> >   On Error GoTo PauzeScheduling_Error
> >   
> >   dtmStartPauze =
> >CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
> >"StartPauzeAt"), "HH:mm"))
> >   dtmEndPauze =
> >CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
> >"EndPauzeAt"), "hh:mm"))
> >   
> >   
> >   If (dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) And
> >(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) Then
> >      PauzeScheduling = True
> >   Else
> >      PauzeScheduling = False
> >   End If
> >
> >PauzeScheduling_Exit:
> >   ' Collect your garbage here
> >   Exit Function
> >PauzeScheduling_Error:
> >   ' Collect your garbage here
> >   Call
> >g_oGenErr.Throw("PauzeScheduling.PauzeScheduling",
> >"PauzeScheduling")
> >End Function
> >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
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> >Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> protection around 
> >http://mail.yahoo.com 
> >  
> >
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> Canada
> 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jul  1 01:51:22 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:51:22 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Check date-time problem
In-Reply-To: <20050701053829.34085.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <42C44811.6050000@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <42C5748A.23305.AE32B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 30 Jun 2005 at 22:38, Sad Der wrote:

> Example:
> 
> current time=21:37
> StartPauzeAt=21:00
> EndPauzeAt=3:00
> 

Is StartPauzeAt  always later than EndPauzeAt?  If not you need two 
different conditions.

If StartPauzeAt > EndPauseAt then  'wraps at midnight
   If currenttime > StartPauzeAt or currenttime < EndPauzeAt then
      .....  'Pauze
   end If
Else   ' all in the same day
  If current currenttime > StartPauzeAt and currenttime < EndPauzeAt then
     .... 'Pause
  End If
End If



-- 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jul  1 04:10:11 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:10:11 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Check date-time problem
Message-ID: <s2c524ba.024@cactus.dk>

Hi SD

This should work for you:

Public Function IsTimeBetween( _
  ByVal dteTimeFrom As Date, _
  ByVal dteTimeTo As Date, _
  ByVal dteTimeToCompare As Date, _
  Optional ByVal booTimeToCompareIsNextDay As Boolean) _
  As Boolean
  
' Returns True if dteTimeToCompare falls between dteTimeFrom and
dteTimeTo.
'
' 2002-04-06. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.

  Dim booTimeIsBetween  As Boolean

  If DateDiff("s", dteTimeTo, dteTimeFrom) > 0 Then
    dteTimeTo = DateAdd("d", 1, dteTimeTo)
  End If
  If booTimeToCompareIsNextDay = True Then
    dteTimeToCompare = DateAdd("d", 1, dteTimeToCompare)
  End If

  If DateDiff("s", dteTimeFrom, dteTimeToCompare) >= 0 And _
    DateDiff("s", dteTimeToCompare, dteTimeTo) >= 0 Then
    booTimeIsBetween = True
  End If
    
  IsTimeBetween = booTimeIsBetween
  
End Function

/gustav

>>> accessd666 at yahoo.com 07/01 7:38 am >>>
Example:

current time=21:37
StartPauzeAt=21:00
EndPauzeAt=3:00

The following statement checks if current time is
between startpauze and endpauze:
If (dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) And
(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) Then

(dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) = TRUE
21:37           > 21:00          = TRUE
(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) = FALSE
21:37           < 3:00         = FALSE!!

So the problem is that I'm missing a day factor here.
How can I implement this. The StartPauzeAt and
EndPauzeAt are flexibel and can be changed at any
time.

So what I need is:
If dtmCrntDateTime > dtmStartPauze AND dtmCrntDateTime
< dtmStartPauze then
IF 1-jun-2005 21:37 > 1-jun-2005 21:00 AND
1-jun-2005 21:37    < 2-jun-2005 3:00

Hope this makes sence.

SD


--- MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca> wrote:

> So what is the problem, are you running more than 24
> hours?
> 
> Sad Der wrote:
> 
> >Hi group,
> >
> >I've got an ini file with the following values:
> >[PauzeScheduling]
> >StartPauzeAt=21:00
> >EndPauzeAt=3:00
> >
> >I've got a 'service' that checks if the
> Currenttime:
> >dtmCurrentTime = CDate(Format(Time(), "hh:mm"))
> >
> >Is between these values. 
> >
> >It worked fine. Settings used to be within a day.
> >Somebody has got to have dealt with this problem
> >before.
> >What is a (very) solid way to handle this problem?
> >Keep in mind that this is a long running schedule
> >(e.g. forever?!)
> >
> >Thnx.
> >SD
> >
> >Here's my code:
> >
>
>'=========================================================================================
> >' Function Name      :  PauzeScheduling
> >' Parameters         :  dtmCurrentTime => Current
> >Time' Return value       :  (Boolean) True:
> >CurrentTime between scheduled times
> >' Purpose            :  Check if current time is
> >within the scheduled times of the ini file
> >' Assumptions        :  ---
> >' Uses               :  ---
> >' Created            :  2005-Jun-03 08:55, SaDe
> >' Modifications      :
>
>'=========================================================================================
> >Public Function PauzeScheduling(dtmCurrentTime As
> >Date) As Boolean
> >   Dim dtmStartPauze As Date
> >   Dim dtmEndPauze As Date
> >   
> >   On Error GoTo PauzeScheduling_Error
> >   
> >   dtmStartPauze =
> >CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
> >"StartPauzeAt"), "HH:mm"))
> >   dtmEndPauze =
> >CDate(Format(g_oGenSet.GetValue("PauzeScheduling",
> >"EndPauzeAt"), "hh:mm"))
> >   
> >   
> >   If (dtmCurrentTime > dtmStartPauze) And
> >(dtmCurrentTime < dtmEndPauze) Then
> >      PauzeScheduling = True
> >   Else
> >      PauzeScheduling = False
> >   End If
> >
> >PauzeScheduling_Exit:
> >   ' Collect your garbage here
> >   Exit Function
> >PauzeScheduling_Error:
> >   ' Collect your garbage here
> >   Call
> >g_oGenErr.Throw("PauzeScheduling.PauzeScheduling",
> >"PauzeScheduling")
> >End Function
> >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >Do You Yahoo!?
> >Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> protection around 
> >http://mail.yahoo.com 
> >  
> >
> 
> -- 
> Marty Connelly
> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
> 
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jul  1 10:01:50 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:01:50 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration
Message-ID: <s2c57710.029@cactus.dk>

Hi all

What a boring Friday afternoon. Much more fun to study the flash site
on the Turning Torso, a masterpiece in sculptural architecture under
construction at Malm?, the Swedish town 25 km east of Copenhagen, with a
height of 190 m:

  http://www.turningtorso.com/

Note the Menu top right.
Have fun!

/gustav


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jul  1 10:27:57 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 11:27:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration
In-Reply-To: <s2c57710.029@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <001401c57e51$758924a0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Is it a windmill by any chance?  Cool looking structure.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:02 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration


Hi all

What a boring Friday afternoon. Much more fun to study the flash site on the
Turning Torso, a masterpiece in sculptural architecture under construction
at Malm?, the Swedish town 25 km east of Copenhagen, with a height of 190 m:

  http://www.turningtorso.com/

Note the Menu top right.
Have fun!

/gustav
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jul  1 10:42:43 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:42:43 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration
Message-ID: <s2c580b5.030@cactus.dk>

Hi John

Many ways to look at this.

Notice the pictures of the interior. No window is rectangular.

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 07/01 5:27 pm >>>
Is it a windmill by any chance?  Cool looking structure.



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jul  1 10:57:22 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 08:57:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AF5@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Makes it hard to find window shades! <g>

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock [mailto:Gustav at cactus.dk] 
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:43 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration


Hi John

Many ways to look at this.

Notice the pictures of the interior. No window is rectangular.

/gustav

>>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 07/01 5:27 pm >>>
Is it a windmill by any chance?  Cool looking structure.

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Fri Jul  1 11:13:54 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:13:54 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Storing variable names in a table
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723376B3@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Sad,
Thank you for the reply. I'm experimenting with your suggestion. I'll let
you know how it goes.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Sad Der [mailto:accessd666 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Storing variable names in a table


Jim,

I'm probably missing the big picture here but i'll
give it a try.
Suppose you have a table with the following fields:
Query (Text)
Parameter (Text)
ParameterType (Text)

It has the values:
Query Parameter                   ParameterType
A     strareacode                 String
A     intCo                       Integer
A     "AreaActSummaryACT"         String
A     "dept1"                     String
A     .Worksheets(y).Range("a11") Range

You could add all parameters and there types in an 
array
Something like this:
intCntr = Select count(*) from ParameterTable where
Query = "A"
dim avarParameter() as variant
redim avarparameter(1,intCntr)

So now you now how to convert the parameter types.

for lngArrayCntr = 0 to UBOUND(avarparameter)
 ConvertDataType(avarparameter(1,lngArrayCntr)
next lngArrayCntr

Did I mis it completely? :-)

HTH

SD
--- "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com> wrote:

> In a class I have created a method that reads query
> names from a table and
> opens the appropriate record sets. There may be any
> number of queries that
> are run by a single method call. For parameter
> queries life is more
> complicated. I created a method which loads the
> variables into a ParmArray
> and then sets the query parameters to the correct
> variable. The problem with
> this is I can only run one parameter query at a time
> from my method. a
> typical call looks like:
> 
> 'set parameter values
>  Call Xcel.QryParmValues(strareacode, intCo,
> "AreaActSummaryACT", "dept1",
> .Worksheets(y).Range("a11"))
> ' read query names from table and open the
> recorsets.
>     Xcel.MultiplePasteExcel (119)
> 
> 119 is the case number so the method knows which the
> query names to pull
> from a table. Ideally I would like to store all the
> parameters for all the
> queries in a table and extract them as needed. 
> "AreaActSummaryACT", and
> "dept1" are no problem since they are strings. What
> I don't know how to do
> is store variable names such as strareacode, intCo
> as strings in a table and
> then assign them the correct value from the
> procedure all this is running
> in. Worksheets(y).Range("a11")) will also be a
> challenge to store in a table
> (it picks up the parameter value from an Excel
> worksheet) but I may be able
> use eval() to create the correct value. If I can
> solve these problems I will
> be able to populate Excel workbooks with one method
> call since all the info
> needed to create recordsets with data to paste into
> worksheets will reside
> in a table. If I can't store the variable names in a
> table I quess I could
> expand the QryParmValues method to handle a multi
> dimensional array  but I
> am not at all sure how to do this either. Any help
> will be appreciated.
> 
> Jim Hale
> 
> 
> 
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From carbonnb at sympatico.ca  Fri Jul  1 11:56:47 2005
From: carbonnb at sympatico.ca (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 12:56:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration
In-Reply-To: <s2c57710.029@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP03DCE430E5E1FE9400E7DCAEE20@cez.ice>

On 1 Jul 2005 at 17:01, Gustav Brock wrote:

> What a boring Friday afternoon. Much more fun to study the flash site
> on the Turning Torso, a masterpiece in sculptural architecture under
> construction at Malm?, the Swedish town 25 km east of Copenhagen, with
> a height of 190 m:
> 
>   http://www.turningtorso.com/

It is a cool building. I was actually watching a program on Discovery 
Channel Canada last night about this. 7 days to build 1 floor.

For those that get Discovery Canada and want to see it, it's on again 
today (July 1) at 4pm ET and again on July 3rd at 8am ET.

It was one of the Extreme Engeneering episodes if you want to try and 
find it on a local channel.

-- 
Bryan Carbonnell - carbonnb at sympatico.ca
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never 
cease to be amused.




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jul  1 15:59:56 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 13:59:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Hockey Stick programs and global warming on Canada
	Day
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873AF5@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <42C5AECC.7040803@shaw.ca>

Does your code measure up to this standard. This is just a quick peek at 
the code and the stats used.
Not a argument for or against each position.

 This is part of the analysis, that forms the basis for
billions of dollars being spent on Global Warming. Golub's CSVD routine 
is kind of old and if I remember right machine dependant. SVD routines
(Singular Value Decomposition) are a method of solving linear least 
squares problems.

The argument
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_past_1000_years

Ok, now here is some of the original code from Mann's site, about 400 
lines of text.
Note the use of goto's and other achronisms. This isn't a plug for use 
of IDL language.

ftp://holocene.evsc.virginia.edu/pub/MBH98/TREE/ITRDB/NOAMER/pca-noamer.f

what routine does
remove the 1902-1980 mean
calc the SD over this period
divide the whole series by this SD, point by point
remove the linear trend from the new 1902-1980 series
compute the SD again for 1902-1980 of the detrended data
divide the whole series by this SD.


Be aware that not all the software code and data has been fully released
so their is much bickering involved.

More info:

William Connolley's view Anatartic Climate Modeler
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/9a3673c6a0d64c1f?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&rnum=5

Answer to natures rejection of McKitrick and McIntyre rejection of 
Mann's data and Analysis

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/fallupdate04/update.fall04.html

Another blog
http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/2004-2_archives/000406.html

C SVD routines from "Numerical Recipes in C"  book online can be had here
http://www.library.cornell.edu/nr/cbookcpdf.html


C SVD routines from "Numerical Recipes in C"  book online can be had here
http://www.library.cornell.edu/nr/cbookcpdf.html


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Canada





From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 16:14:39 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 14:14:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] I have a webservice... now what?
Message-ID: <b874372a05070114149066bf8@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, so I have a webservices that returns an XML reocordset.  I'd like
to save that recordset w/ ado to an XML file... anybody have any
samples?



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Fri Jul  1 18:35:06 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:35:06 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] I have a webservice... now what?
References: <b874372a05070114149066bf8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42C5D32A.7060106@shaw.ca>

  Ok, here is some code to get you started it reads a northwind table 
and outputs three types of files
XML Flat file format just elements plus initial XML  PI
XML ADTG   format ( the type with zRows schema) suitable to be read 
 directly back into an mdb
CSV file

Where you want to change this code is where I load the northwind SQL 
recordset.
Replace it by what you have returned from XMLHTTP by oDOM.loadXML 
(objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml)
What you are getting returned in response object is just one long xml 
string.

Application.ExportXML won't work here as it  has to be an Access Object 
to be output.
You might also want to use .validateonparse method to error check the 
xml you are getting initally.

If you wanted to once you have your returned xml in the dom you could 
use Xpath
to grab specific fields.
 
Sub readmdb()

   Dim sSQL As String
   Dim iNumRecords As Integer

   Dim oConnection As ADODB.Connection
   Dim oRecordset As ADODB.Recordset
   Dim rstSchema As ADODB.Recordset
   Dim sConnStr As String

   'sConnStr = "Provider=SQLOLEDB;Data Source=MySrvr;" & _
               "Initial Catalog=Northwind;User Id=MyId;Password=123aBc;"
   ' Connection "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.3.51;Data 
Source=D:\DataBases\Northwind.mdb"
         
   'Access 97 version Jet 3.51
   ' sConnStr = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.3.51;" & _
           "Data Source=C:\Program Files\Microsoft 
Office\Office\Samples\Northwind.mdb;" & _
           "User Id=admin;" & "Password="
   'Access XP Jet 4
   sConnStr = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
           "Data Source=C:\Program Files\Microsoft 
Office\Office\Samples\Northwind.mdb;" & _
           "User Id=admin;" & "Password="
        
   'On Error GoTo GetDataError
  
   ' Create and Open the Connection object.
   Set oConnection = New ADODB.Connection
   oConnection.CursorLocation = adUseClient
   oConnection.Open sConnStr
  
   sSQL = "SELECT ProductID, ProductName, CategoryID, UnitPrice " & _
            "FROM Products"
  
   ' Create and Open the Recordset object.
   Set oRecordset = New ADODB.Recordset
   oRecordset.Open sSQL, oConnection, adOpenStatic, _
                       adLockBatchOptimistic, adCmdText
      With oRecordset
      Debug.Print .RecordCount
      Dim i As Long
      Dim strOut As String
      strOut = ""
      .MoveFirst
      For i = 0 To .RecordCount - 1
      strOut = strOut & !ProductName
      strOut = strOut & "," & !CategoryID
      strOut = strOut & "," & !UnitPrice
      strOut = strOut & vbCrLf
      .MoveNext
      Next i
      End With
 'Save as Access csv file
 WriteFile "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\strout" & Format(Now, 
"yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", strOut
 
Dim oDOM As MSXML2.DOMDocument
Dim oXML As MSXML2.DOMDocument
Dim oXSL As MSXML2.DOMDocument
Dim strHTML As String
Dim strTransform As String

Set oDOM = CreateObject("MSXML2.DOMDocument")
  oDOM.async = False
  'Load the XML DOM
  'Put recordset into XML Dom
  ' Here you would load your xml string
  ' read from whatever is returned by xmlhttp or xnlhttpserver into the 
XML DOM
  ' I forget if it is objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml or objXMLHTTP.responseXML
  ' Set objXMLHTTP = New MSXML2.XMLHTTP
  ' Debug.Print "returned=" & objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml
  '     oDOM.loadXML (objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml)
  ' in place of line below
  oRecordset.Save oDOM, adPersistXML '1 magic number

Set oXSL = CreateObject("MSXML2.DOMDocument")
  oXSL.async = False
  oXSL.Load "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\ADOGeneric.xsl" 'your XSLT 
stylesheet save as unicode not ansii
'note encoding as european language encoding need for swedish characters
'you could scan the the string and convert to unicode escape characters 
like &#x27;
strTransform = oDOM.transformNode(oXSL)
strHTML = "<?xml version='1.0' encoding=""ISO-8859-1""?>" & vbCrLf & _
            "<root>" & strTransform & "</root>"
'Save as flat xml file
WriteFile "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\ADOGenericProduct" & Format(Now, 
"yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", strHTML
'
'the above XSLT transform with xsl file converts this to a flat XML 
format without rowset schema

'this  will save to an XML file with ADTG MS Format suitable to dump 
back into table or recordset
oRecordset.Save "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\ADOGenericProductADG.xml", 
adPersistXML

Set oDOM = Nothing
Set oXML = Nothing
Set oXSL = Nothing
Set oConnection = Nothing
Set oRecordset = Nothing
End Sub
Public Sub WriteFile(ByVal sFileName As String, ByVal sContents As String)
' Dump XML  String to File for debugging
    Dim fhFile As Integer
    fhFile = FreeFile
   ' Debug.Print "Length of string=" & Len(sContents)
    Open sFileName For Output As #fhFile
    Print #fhFile, sContents;
    Close #fhFile
    Debug.Print "Out File" & sFileName
End Sub

ADOgeneric.xsl file   cut and paste and save in notepad as Unicode not Ansi
This is XSLT file that strips all the extraneous rowset schema from ADTG 
formated xml file to create flat xml

<?xml version='1.0'?>
<xsl:stylesheet version="1.0" 
xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform" 
xmlns:s="uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:z="#RowsetSchema">
    <s:Schema id="RowsetSchema"/>
<xsl:output method="xml" omit-xml-declaration="yes" />
<xsl:template match="/">
    <xsl:apply-templates select="//z:row"/>
</xsl:template>

<xsl:template match="z:row">
    <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;row&gt;</xsl:text>
        <xsl:for-each select="@*">
            <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;</xsl:text>
            <xsl:value-of select="name()"/>
            <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&gt;</xsl:text>
            <xsl:value-of select="."/>
            <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;/</xsl:text>
            <xsl:value-of select="name()"/>
            <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&gt;</xsl:text>
        </xsl:for-each>
    <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;/row&gt;</xsl:text>
</xsl:template>
</xsl:stylesheet>


Francisco Tapia wrote:

>Ok, so I have a webservices that returns an XML reocordset.  I'd like
>to save that recordset w/ ado to an XML file... anybody have any
>samples?
>
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From fhtapia at gmail.com  Fri Jul  1 18:58:15 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 16:58:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] I have a webservice... now what?
In-Reply-To: <42C5D32A.7060106@shaw.ca>
References: <b874372a05070114149066bf8@mail.gmail.com>
	<42C5D32A.7060106@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <b874372a0507011658e31bac@mail.gmail.com>

Very COOL, Thanks for the FAST response! :)

On 7/1/05, MartyConnelly <martyconnelly at shaw.ca> wrote:
>   Ok, here is some code to get you started it reads a northwind table
> and outputs three types of files
> XML Flat file format just elements plus initial XML  PI
> XML ADTG   format ( the type with zRows schema) suitable to be read
>  directly back into an mdb
> CSV file
> 
> Where you want to change this code is where I load the northwind SQL
> recordset.
> Replace it by what you have returned from XMLHTTP by oDOM.loadXML
> (objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml)
> What you are getting returned in response object is just one long xml
> string.
> 
> Application.ExportXML won't work here as it  has to be an Access Object
> to be output.
> You might also want to use .validateonparse method to error check the
> xml you are getting initally.
> 
> If you wanted to once you have your returned xml in the dom you could
> use Xpath
> to grab specific fields.
> 
> Sub readmdb()
> 
>    Dim sSQL As String
>    Dim iNumRecords As Integer
> 
>    Dim oConnection As ADODB.Connection
>    Dim oRecordset As ADODB.Recordset
>    Dim rstSchema As ADODB.Recordset
>    Dim sConnStr As String
> 
>    'sConnStr = "Provider=SQLOLEDB;Data Source=MySrvr;" & _
>                "Initial Catalog=Northwind;User Id=MyId;Password=123aBc;"
>    ' Connection "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.3.51;Data
> Source=D:\DataBases\Northwind.mdb"
> 
>    'Access 97 version Jet 3.51
>    ' sConnStr = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.3.51;" & _
>            "Data Source=C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> Office\Office\Samples\Northwind.mdb;" & _
>            "User Id=admin;" & "Password="
>    'Access XP Jet 4
>    sConnStr = "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
>            "Data Source=C:\Program Files\Microsoft
> Office\Office\Samples\Northwind.mdb;" & _
>            "User Id=admin;" & "Password="
> 
>    'On Error GoTo GetDataError
> 
>    ' Create and Open the Connection object.
>    Set oConnection = New ADODB.Connection
>    oConnection.CursorLocation = adUseClient
>    oConnection.Open sConnStr
> 
>    sSQL = "SELECT ProductID, ProductName, CategoryID, UnitPrice " & _
>             "FROM Products"
> 
>    ' Create and Open the Recordset object.
>    Set oRecordset = New ADODB.Recordset
>    oRecordset.Open sSQL, oConnection, adOpenStatic, _
>                        adLockBatchOptimistic, adCmdText
>       With oRecordset
>       Debug.Print .RecordCount
>       Dim i As Long
>       Dim strOut As String
>       strOut = ""
>       .MoveFirst
>       For i = 0 To .RecordCount - 1
>       strOut = strOut & !ProductName
>       strOut = strOut & "," & !CategoryID
>       strOut = strOut & "," & !UnitPrice
>       strOut = strOut & vbCrLf
>       .MoveNext
>       Next i
>       End With
>  'Save as Access csv file
>  WriteFile "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\strout" & Format(Now,
> "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", strOut
> 
> Dim oDOM As MSXML2.DOMDocument
> Dim oXML As MSXML2.DOMDocument
> Dim oXSL As MSXML2.DOMDocument
> Dim strHTML As String
> Dim strTransform As String
> 
> Set oDOM = CreateObject("MSXML2.DOMDocument")
>   oDOM.async = False
>   'Load the XML DOM
>   'Put recordset into XML Dom
>   ' Here you would load your xml string
>   ' read from whatever is returned by xmlhttp or xnlhttpserver into the
> XML DOM
>   ' I forget if it is objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml or objXMLHTTP.responseXML
>   ' Set objXMLHTTP = New MSXML2.XMLHTTP
>   ' Debug.Print "returned=" & objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml
>   '     oDOM.loadXML (objXMLHTTP.responseXML.xml)
>   ' in place of line below
>   oRecordset.Save oDOM, adPersistXML '1 magic number
> 
> Set oXSL = CreateObject("MSXML2.DOMDocument")
>   oXSL.async = False
>   oXSL.Load "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\ADOGeneric.xsl" 'your XSLT
> stylesheet save as unicode not ansii
> 'note encoding as european language encoding need for swedish characters
> 'you could scan the the string and convert to unicode escape characters
> like &#x27;
> strTransform = oDOM.transformNode(oXSL)
> strHTML = "<?xml version='1.0' encoding=""ISO-8859-1""?>" & vbCrLf & _
>             "<root>" & strTransform & "</root>"
> 'Save as flat xml file
> WriteFile "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\ADOGenericProduct" & Format(Now,
> "yyyymmddhhmmss") & ".xml", strHTML
> '
> 'the above XSLT transform with xsl file converts this to a flat XML
> format without rowset schema
> 
> 'this  will save to an XML file with ADTG MS Format suitable to dump
> back into table or recordset
> oRecordset.Save "C:\Access files\xmlfiles\ADOGenericProductADG.xml",
> adPersistXML
> 
> Set oDOM = Nothing
> Set oXML = Nothing
> Set oXSL = Nothing
> Set oConnection = Nothing
> Set oRecordset = Nothing
> End Sub
> Public Sub WriteFile(ByVal sFileName As String, ByVal sContents As String)
> ' Dump XML  String to File for debugging
>     Dim fhFile As Integer
>     fhFile = FreeFile
>    ' Debug.Print "Length of string=" & Len(sContents)
>     Open sFileName For Output As #fhFile
>     Print #fhFile, sContents;
>     Close #fhFile
>     Debug.Print "Out File" & sFileName
> End Sub
> 
> ADOgeneric.xsl file   cut and paste and save in notepad as Unicode not Ansi
> This is XSLT file that strips all the extraneous rowset schema from ADTG
> formated xml file to create flat xml
> 
> <?xml version='1.0'?>
> <xsl:stylesheet version="1.0"
> xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform"
> xmlns:s="uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:z="#RowsetSchema">
>     <s:Schema id="RowsetSchema"/>
> <xsl:output method="xml" omit-xml-declaration="yes" />
> <xsl:template match="/">
>     <xsl:apply-templates select="//z:row"/>
> </xsl:template>
> 
> <xsl:template match="z:row">
>     <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;row&gt;</xsl:text>
>         <xsl:for-each select="@*">
>             <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;</xsl:text>
>             <xsl:value-of select="name()"/>
>             <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&gt;</xsl:text>
>             <xsl:value-of select="."/>
>             <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;/</xsl:text>
>             <xsl:value-of select="name()"/>
>             <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&gt;</xsl:text>
>         </xsl:for-each>
>     <xsl:text disable-output-escaping="yes">&lt;/row&gt;</xsl:text>
> </xsl:template>
> </xsl:stylesheet>
> 
> 
> Francisco Tapia wrote:
> 
> >Ok, so I have a webservices that returns an XML reocordset.  I'd like
> >to save that recordset w/ ado to an XML file... anybody have any
> >samples?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
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> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
> 
> 
> 
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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jul  2 12:18:45 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 13:18:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
In-Reply-To: <b874372a0507011658e31bac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200507021718.j62HImR18194@databaseadvisors.com>

I'm working on an inherited app which contains one huge table with numerous
fields, distributed in groups across about 6 tabs. There are no subforms --
the whole form displays just one row -- 20 controls on the first tab page,
20 on the second, etc.

Whenever I move the mouse over the form, most or all of the controls on the
displayed tab page sort of jiggle or shimmer. They don't change values, and
it happens too quickly to think they are re-querying, but nevertheless it is
annoying. I've checked such event controls as keydown, onCurrent etc. and
nothing looks as if it's causing this annoying behaviour. Is it possibly
just because there are so many controls?

Incidentally, I plan to normalise this table and that may make this problem
of multiple nested tables inside one go away, but in the interim I'm
wondering about this.

Any clues where to look?

TIA,
Arthur



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Jul  2 12:57:55 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:57:55 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
Message-ID: <s2c6f1d9.035@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

Could it be the same issue that Erwin and Marty dealt with 2004-11-30:

  Form flickers like hell in A2K3

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 07/02 7:18 pm >>>
I'm working on an inherited app which contains one huge table with
numerous
fields, distributed in groups across about 6 tabs. There are no
subforms --
the whole form displays just one row -- 20 controls on the first tab
page,
20 on the second, etc.

Whenever I move the mouse over the form, most or all of the controls on
the
displayed tab page sort of jiggle or shimmer. They don't change values,
and
it happens too quickly to think they are re-querying, but nevertheless
it is
annoying. I've checked such event controls as keydown, onCurrent etc.
and
nothing looks as if it's causing this annoying behaviour. Is it
possibly
just because there are so many controls?

Incidentally, I plan to normalise this table and that may make this
problem
of multiple nested tables inside one go away, but in the interim I'm
wondering about this.

Any clues where to look?

TIA,
Arthur



From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jul  2 23:53:50 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:53:50 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
In-Reply-To: <s2c6f1d9.035@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200507030453.j634rkR21571@databaseadvisors.com>

I don't know about that, but will try to follow up that lead. What I do know
is that there are LOTS of controls on this form, all stemming from a single
table (it's more than 100, but I'm not sure of the exact count). Nuts table
structure, I readily admit, but that's not the point.

I think I'm going to try making the tabs invisible one by one and see at
what point the problem goes away.

Also, I have added a bunch of other forms to this app, some relatively
complex (i.e. a listbox that serves as a finder, to the left of a bunch of
columns copied from an autoform, and after that an embedded form/subform)
and these forms do not suffer from this flicker issue.

I'm guessing at this point that hiding one or more tabs on the form is going
to make the flicker go away. If correct, I will then reveal one more form
and start hiding individual controls to see at which number the flicker
appears. 

I will report results as soon as I have some.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: July 2, 2005 1:58 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

Hi Arthur

Could it be the same issue that Erwin and Marty dealt with 2004-11-30:

  Form flickers like hell in A2K3

/gustav




From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jul  2 23:59:26 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:59:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
In-Reply-To: <200507030453.j634rkR21571@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200507030459.j634xLR25256@databaseadvisors.com>

More on this...

I have just hidden all but two of the heavily populated tab pages, and I
still have the flicker. This is so strange it is beginning to interest me,
rather than being just an annoying problem. I'm going to rebuild this form
from scratch, page by page, and see where the flicker begins to happen. Many
unbillable hours, but at least I will know!

A.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: July 3, 2005 12:54 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

I don't know about that, but will try to follow up that lead. What I do know
is that there are LOTS of controls on this form, all stemming from a single
table (it's more than 100, but I'm not sure of the exact count). Nuts table
structure, I readily admit, but that's not the point.

I think I'm going to try making the tabs invisible one by one and see at
what point the problem goes away.

Also, I have added a bunch of other forms to this app, some relatively
complex (i.e. a listbox that serves as a finder, to the left of a bunch of
columns copied from an autoform, and after that an embedded form/subform)
and these forms do not suffer from this flicker issue.

I'm guessing at this point that hiding one or more tabs on the form is going
to make the flicker go away. If correct, I will then reveal one more form
and start hiding individual controls to see at which number the flicker
appears. 

I will report results as soon as I have some.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: July 2, 2005 1:58 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

Hi Arthur

Could it be the same issue that Erwin and Marty dealt with 2004-11-30:

  Form flickers like hell in A2K3

/gustav




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Jul  3 08:48:34 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (bchacc at san.rr.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:48:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
Message-ID: <97460-22005703134834456@M2W103.mail2web.com>


Arthur:

Check the archives.  I had this problem in an app and fixed it but can't
remember how at the moment. I'm on vacation this week and I'm not supposed
to work but if I get a chance later I'll look at that app and see if I can
remember what the tweak was.  IIRC it was somerthing pretty simple.

Rocky

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Arthur Fuller artful at rogers.com
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:59:26 -0400
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003


More on this...

I have just hidden all but two of the heavily populated tab pages, and I
still have the flicker. This is so strange it is beginning to interest me,
rather than being just an annoying problem. I'm going to rebuild this form
from scratch, page by page, and see where the flicker begins to happen. Many
unbillable hours, but at least I will know!

A.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: July 3, 2005 12:54 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

I don't know about that, but will try to follow up that lead. What I do know
is that there are LOTS of controls on this form, all stemming from a single
table (it's more than 100, but I'm not sure of the exact count). Nuts table
structure, I readily admit, but that's not the point.

I think I'm going to try making the tabs invisible one by one and see at
what point the problem goes away.

Also, I have added a bunch of other forms to this app, some relatively
complex (i.e. a listbox that serves as a finder, to the left of a bunch of
columns copied from an autoform, and after that an embedded form/subform)
and these forms do not suffer from this flicker issue.

I'm guessing at this point that hiding one or more tabs on the form is going
to make the flicker go away. If correct, I will then reveal one more form
and start hiding individual controls to see at which number the flicker
appears. 

I will report results as soon as I have some.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: July 2, 2005 1:58 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

Hi Arthur

Could it be the same issue that Erwin and Marty dealt with 2004-11-30:

  Form flickers like hell in A2K3

/gustav


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Jul  3 11:05:29 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:05:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
References: <97460-22005703134834456@M2W103.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <42C80CC9.2060204@shaw.ca>

I'll repost since I just got asked this on another list last week,
A more common problem than I thought on subforms with tab and label  
flicker.

You ain't gonna believe this but if running WinXP change your theme
by right-clicking your Windows XP desktop, choosing Properties, and
setting the Theme to "Windows Classic".
If you cannot solve it by deselecting Use Windows Themed Controls
on Forms under Tools | Options | Forms/Reports in Access 2003
The flickering or flutter goes away on my machine using Win XP Theme
Classic and Access 2003 and by deselecting above option
The flickering is triggered by unattached labels on the page of a
tab control. The workaround is to convert these labels to text boxes.
For non english speakers I found this by google searching on Screen
Flutter rather than Flicker.

For full explanation. and code to correct all forms if above tools
option method doesn't work
http://members.iinet.net.au/~allenbrowne/ser-46.html

bchacc at san.rr.com wrote:

>Arthur:
>
>Check the archives.  I had this problem in an app and fixed it but can't
>remember how at the moment. I'm on vacation this week and I'm not supposed
>to work but if I get a chance later I'll look at that app and see if I can
>remember what the tweak was.  IIRC it was somerthing pretty simple.
>
>Rocky
>
>Original Message:
>-----------------
>From: Arthur Fuller artful at rogers.com
>Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:59:26 -0400
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
>
>
>More on this...
>
>I have just hidden all but two of the heavily populated tab pages, and I
>still have the flicker. This is so strange it is beginning to interest me,
>rather than being just an annoying problem. I'm going to rebuild this form
>from scratch, page by page, and see where the flicker begins to happen. Many
>unbillable hours, but at least I will know!
>
>A.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
>Sent: July 3, 2005 12:54 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
>
>I don't know about that, but will try to follow up that lead. What I do know
>is that there are LOTS of controls on this form, all stemming from a single
>table (it's more than 100, but I'm not sure of the exact count). Nuts table
>structure, I readily admit, but that's not the point.
>
>I think I'm going to try making the tabs invisible one by one and see at
>what point the problem goes away.
>
>Also, I have added a bunch of other forms to this app, some relatively
>complex (i.e. a listbox that serves as a finder, to the left of a bunch of
>columns copied from an autoform, and after that an embedded form/subform)
>and these forms do not suffer from this flicker issue.
>
>I'm guessing at this point that hiding one or more tabs on the form is going
>to make the flicker go away. If correct, I will then reveal one more form
>and start hiding individual controls to see at which number the flicker
>appears. 
>
>I will report results as soon as I have some.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: July 2, 2005 1:58 PM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
>
>Hi Arthur
>
>Could it be the same issue that Erwin and Marty dealt with 2004-11-30:
>
>  Form flickers like hell in A2K3
>
>/gustav
>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Jul  5 02:58:58 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:58:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507050750.j657nwr23701@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Hi

I am developing a VB.net app with A2K BE.  I will deploy .net framework
which provides all the data access to the mdb file.
My question is this....Can I use in my Access queries code such as left,
mid or specifically dateadd. 
Am I right in thinking these functions are part of VBA (which I do not
intend to deploy) and so on a clean machine ie. without any MS Access
that queries using these functions will bomb out - or will ADO.net/.net
handle accordingly?

TIA

Richard



From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  5 07:44:53 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 08:44:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
References: <200507050750.j657nwr23701@smarthost.yourcomms.net>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV182823D1A4E2B6378EF73BAEE60@phx.gbl>

VB.net and the Net framework include their own functionality, albeit at some 
speed penalty in the case of the framework  ...rather than dateadd, you 
could use the TimeSpan parameter in VB.net's .Add() method.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
To: "AccessD" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 3:58 AM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net


Hi

I am developing a VB.net app with A2K BE.  I will deploy .net framework
which provides all the data access to the mdb file.
My question is this....Can I use in my Access queries code such as left,
mid or specifically dateadd.
Am I right in thinking these functions are part of VBA (which I do not
intend to deploy) and so on a clean machine ie. without any MS Access
that queries using these functions will bomb out - or will ADO.net/.net
handle accordingly?

TIA

Richard

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Jul  5 08:21:20 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:21:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507051312.j65DCLr17648@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Do you know if my queries (stored procedures) that use say dateadd (ie
hard coded into the query) will fail?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: 05 July 2005 13:45
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K and .Net


VB.net and the Net framework include their own functionality, albeit at
some 
speed penalty in the case of the framework  ...rather than dateadd, you 
could use the TimeSpan parameter in VB.net's .Add() method.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
To: "AccessD" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 3:58 AM
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net


Hi

I am developing a VB.net app with A2K BE.  I will deploy .net framework
which provides all the data access to the mdb file. My question is
this....Can I use in my Access queries code such as left, mid or
specifically dateadd. Am I right in thinking these functions are part of
VBA (which I do not intend to deploy) and so on a clean machine ie.
without any MS Access that queries using these functions will bomb out -
or will ADO.net/.net handle accordingly?

TIA

Richard

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Tue Jul  5 10:59:54 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 10:59:54 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D871@main2.marlow.com>

Does the form have a MouseMove event?  I know in Access 97, a mouse move
event will cause that sort of 'effect'.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003


I'm working on an inherited app which contains one huge table with numerous
fields, distributed in groups across about 6 tabs. There are no subforms --
the whole form displays just one row -- 20 controls on the first tab page,
20 on the second, etc.

Whenever I move the mouse over the form, most or all of the controls on the
displayed tab page sort of jiggle or shimmer. They don't change values, and
it happens too quickly to think they are re-querying, but nevertheless it is
annoying. I've checked such event controls as keydown, onCurrent etc. and
nothing looks as if it's causing this annoying behaviour. Is it possibly
just because there are so many controls?

Incidentally, I plan to normalise this table and that may make this problem
of multiple nested tables inside one go away, but in the interim I'm
wondering about this.

Any clues where to look?

TIA,
Arthur

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From artful at rogers.com  Tue Jul  5 11:37:43 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:37:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D871@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <200507051637.j65GblR30070@databaseadvisors.com>

No mousemove event either. Sorry.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: July 5, 2005 12:00 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

Does the form have a MouseMove event?  I know in Access 97, a mouse move
event will cause that sort of 'effect'.

Drew


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003


I'm working on an inherited app which contains one huge table with numerous
fields, distributed in groups across about 6 tabs. There are no subforms --
the whole form displays just one row -- 20 controls on the first tab page,
20 on the second, etc.

Whenever I move the mouse over the form, most or all of the controls on the
displayed tab page sort of jiggle or shimmer. They don't change values, and
it happens too quickly to think they are re-querying, but nevertheless it is
annoying. I've checked such event controls as keydown, onCurrent etc. and
nothing looks as if it's causing this annoying behaviour. Is it possibly
just because there are so many controls?

Incidentally, I plan to normalise this table and that may make this problem
of multiple nested tables inside one go away, but in the interim I'm
wondering about this.

Any clues where to look?

TIA,
Arthur




From papparuff at comcast.net  Tue Jul  5 11:44:20 2005
From: papparuff at comcast.net (papparuff at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:44:20 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
Message-ID: <070520051644.5299.42CAB8E40007B608000014B3220074567200009A9D0E9F9F0E9F@comcast.net>

Do you have  a form header and/or form footer. If so, also check their mousemove events.

--
John V. Ruff ? The Eternal Optimist :-) 



-------------- Original message -------------- 

> No mousemove event either. Sorry. 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com 
> Sent: July 5, 2005 12:00 PM 
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003 
> 
> Does the form have a MouseMove event? I know in Access 97, a mouse move 
> event will cause that sort of 'effect'. 
> 
> Drew 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:19 PM 
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
> Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003 
> 
> 
> I'm working on an inherited app which contains one huge table with numerous 
> fields, distributed in groups across about 6 tabs. There are no subforms -- 
> the whole form displays just one row -- 20 controls on the first tab page, 
> 20 on the second, etc. 
> 
> Whenever I move the mouse over the form, most or all of the controls on the 
> displayed tab page sort of jiggle or shimmer. They don't change values, and 
> it happens too quickly to think they are re-querying, but nevertheless it is 
> annoying. I've checked such event controls as keydown, onCurrent etc. and 
> nothing looks as if it's causing this annoying behaviour. Is it possibly 
> just because there are so many controls? 
> 
> Incidentally, I plan to normalise this table and that may make this problem 
> of multiple nested tables inside one go away, but in the interim I'm 
> wondering about this. 
> 
> Any clues where to look? 
> 
> TIA, 
> Arthur 
> 
> 
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From KIsmert at texassystems.com  Tue Jul  5 12:38:16 2005
From: KIsmert at texassystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 12:38:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <B7C87D3ABC87FC4E8CFE054CE2E8868A0A2CC9@aries.TexasSystems.local>

Yes, they will fail. This is not unique to .NET. Simply put, if you open
a Jet database using DAO, ADO, or ADO.NET, any queries that reference
VBA functions like DateAdd will fail. 

Your earlier thinking was correct: to get DateAdd to work in a query,
you would need Access installed on the machine, and would have to open
it via automation. The Access application instance would then provide
the VBA environment required to make sense of VBA function calls.

.NET won't interpret the function calls, nor can you substitute .NET
functions. This is because your ADO calls are going to a separate Jet
server instance, which has no knowledge of the context in which it is
called. 

In short, you are limited to native Jet SQL for your queries. This
includes the aggregate functions like Sum and Avg, mathematical
operators and string concatenation, and the expressions Between, In and
Like. You may also be able to extend your reach by using the ODBC Scalar
functions, although I haven't tried this.

-Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net

Do you know if my queries (stored procedures) that use say dateadd (ie
hard coded into the query) will fail?



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Jul  5 13:08:22 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:08:22 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB67723376C0@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Sub queries are another solution that can provide criteria for queries in
cases where functions won't work. For example, I use a sub query to fetch
current month and year from a period table.
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Ismert [mailto:KIsmert at texassystems.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 12:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net


Yes, they will fail. This is not unique to .NET. Simply put, if you open
a Jet database using DAO, ADO, or ADO.NET, any queries that reference
VBA functions like DateAdd will fail. 

Your earlier thinking was correct: to get DateAdd to work in a query,
you would need Access installed on the machine, and would have to open
it via automation. The Access application instance would then provide
the VBA environment required to make sense of VBA function calls.

.NET won't interpret the function calls, nor can you substitute .NET
functions. This is because your ADO calls are going to a separate Jet
server instance, which has no knowledge of the context in which it is
called. 

In short, you are limited to native Jet SQL for your queries. This
includes the aggregate functions like Sum and Avg, mathematical
operators and string concatenation, and the expressions Between, In and
Like. You may also be able to extend your reach by using the ODBC Scalar
functions, although I haven't tried this.

-Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net

Do you know if my queries (stored procedures) that use say dateadd (ie
hard coded into the query) will fail?

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From fhtapia at gmail.com  Tue Jul  5 15:48:16 2005
From: fhtapia at gmail.com (Francisco Tapia)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:48:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <b874372a050705134754bd779e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706065840.02ad84e0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<b874372a050705134754bd779e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b874372a05070513486901d63@mail.gmail.com>

Access 2000? I seem to remember you need to have SR1a installed...
Additionally because you're trying to make it a bound form, I think I
converted the field from nvarchar to ntext. The Front End will then
handle it correctly for what it's worth moving up to A2003 makes this
whole point moot.



On 7/5/05, David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:
> I have tried the archives but cant find anything.  Francisco - can you
> remember what the subject was?
>
> David
>
> At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
> >This is a known issue. If you search the archives for Francisco Tapia name
> >you might find the right answer.
> >
> >But if I remember correctly, you have to do your final select with that
> >field cast as a Text, so Access (trying to be too smart) will not truncate
> >what it considers a text field and then assumes it is a memo field.
> >
> >David
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
> >Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:08 PM
> >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
> >
> >
> >Yes - Access XP adp, SQL2000.
> >
> >David
> >
> >At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
> > >Are you working in an .adp?
> > >
> > >Susan H.
> > >
> > >Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually
> >type
> > >in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.
> >
--
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Tue Jul  5 15:58:54 2005
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 08:58:54 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
In-Reply-To: <b874372a050705134754bd779e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706065840.02ad84e0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>
	<b874372a050705134754bd779e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050706085357.02affac0@mail.dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks Francisco.

It is actually Access XP and it is an ADP.  I do have the service packs 
installed.

I changed the field to ntext and it works!

Thanks.

At 6/07/2005, you wrote:
>Access 2000? I seem to remember you need to have SR1a installed...
>Additionally because you're trying to make it a bound form, I think I
>converted the field from nvarchar to ntext. The Front End will then
>handle it correctly for what it's worth moving up to A2003 makes this
>whole point moot.
>
>
>
>On 7/5/05, David Emerson <newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz> wrote:
> > I have tried the archives but cant find anything.  Francisco - can you
> > remember what the subject was?
> >
> > David
> >
> > At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
> > >This is a known issue. If you search the archives for Francisco Tapia name
> > >you might find the right answer.
> > >
> > >But if I remember correctly, you have to do your final select with that
> > >field cast as a Text, so Access (trying to be too smart) will not truncate
> > >what it considers a text field and then assumes it is a memo field.
> > >
> > >David
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of David Emerson
> > >Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:08 PM
> > >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > >Subject: RE: [AccessD] Saving string > 256 chars in field
> > >
> > >
> > >Yes - Access XP adp, SQL2000.
> > >
> > >David
> > >
> > >At 28/06/2005, you wrote:
> > > >Are you working in an .adp?
> > > >
> > > >Susan H.
> > > >
> > > >Yes it is bound, however the field is a nvarchar(1000).  I can manually
> > >type
> > > >in more than 256 characters and they save ok.  It is just when I use VB.
> > >
>--
>-Francisco
>http://pcthis.blogspot.com |PC news with out the jargon!
>http://sqlthis.blogspot.com | Tsql and More...



From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Jul  5 19:03:29 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:03:29 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA883534D08@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

This is caused by the new "feature"  of non associated controls
When controls such as labels are 'orphaned' i.e. have no parent control
like a TextBox etc
You get this shimmer/flicker effect when your mouse moves over them
It's a real PITA
Anyway...
In design view select one of them (An unassociated controls like a
label) 
A small yellow warning icon will appear to the left or right of the
'orphaned' control 
alerting you to the fact it is an orphaned control. :-))
Click on that icon and a menu list will appear. Choose associate (if you
want) or ignore error.
That should get rid of the flicker in run time.

If you don't see these little yellow warning icons when you click on a
control in design view
Go to TOOLS|OPTIONS|ERROR CHECKING
And put a check in each of the boxes. Close and start the app again.
Then  go back into design view. You should see the Yellow warning icon I
speak of.

Hope this is the solution

See ya

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

No mousemove event either. Sorry.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: July 5, 2005 12:00 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003

Does the form have a MouseMove event?  I know in Access 97, a mouse move
event will cause that sort of 'effect'.

Drew


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:19 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Puzzling Form hebaviour Access 2003


I'm working on an inherited app which contains one huge table with
numerous fields, distributed in groups across about 6 tabs. There are no
subforms -- the whole form displays just one row -- 20 controls on the
first tab page, 20 on the second, etc.

Whenever I move the mouse over the form, most or all of the controls on
the displayed tab page sort of jiggle or shimmer. They don't change
values, and it happens too quickly to think they are re-querying, but
nevertheless it is annoying. I've checked such event controls as
keydown, onCurrent etc. and nothing looks as if it's causing this
annoying behaviour. Is it possibly just because there are so many
controls?

Incidentally, I plan to normalise this table and that may make this
problem of multiple nested tables inside one go away, but in the interim
I'm wondering about this.

Any clues where to look?

TIA,
Arthur


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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Tue Jul  5 21:00:03 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:00:03 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP address
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA883534DB9@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Guys
Way OT, but I wanna code it into an app.
On some WebPages we are forced to logon to a web site using
the standard Web version of a logon box comes up asking for the
User Name and password for that site. (These are NOT sites I or we have
designed)

It's the generic one
See a screen dump at 
http://tripledee.com.au/accessd/Generic_Logon.jpg

Anyway...my question is this
I can pass credentials to an ftp session by doing something like this

ftp://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au

Cool

When I try the same syntax using
http://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au
In an attempt to bypass the screen in the screen dump it fails.

Does anyone know a way to do it?

Many thanks

Darren


From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Wed Jul  6 02:40:44 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:40:44 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP address
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5D20@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

When using the url format you are sending username and password in plain
text format (un-encrypted).
The special dialogbox to enter your username/password is there to send
you password encrypted over the internet.
Probably your webserver refuses un-encrypted passwords, which is a good
thing.

I'm not aware of a technique to workaround this...
I think that just the point of not beeing able to do this for security
reasons.

Erwin


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:00 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP
address

Hi Guys
Way OT, but I wanna code it into an app.
On some WebPages we are forced to logon to a web site using the standard
Web version of a logon box comes up asking for the User Name and
password for that site. (These are NOT sites I or we have
designed)

It's the generic one
See a screen dump at
http://tripledee.com.au/accessd/Generic_Logon.jpg

Anyway...my question is this
I can pass credentials to an ftp session by doing something like this

ftp://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au

Cool

When I try the same syntax using
http://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au
In an attempt to bypass the screen in the screen dump it fails.

Does anyone know a way to do it?

Many thanks

Darren
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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Wed Jul  6 04:06:21 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Ken
thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and this would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access BE they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an instance each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?  
 
I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled , maybe someone can offer a solution.......
 
 
I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g. 01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
 
Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls between these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return this record.
 
Thanks
Richard

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Ken Ismert
Sent: Tue 05/07/2005 18:38
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net



Yes, they will fail. This is not unique to .NET. Simply put, if you open
a Jet database using DAO, ADO, or ADO.NET, any queries that reference
VBA functions like DateAdd will fail.

Your earlier thinking was correct: to get DateAdd to work in a query,
you would need Access installed on the machine, and would have to open
it via automation. The Access application instance would then provide
the VBA environment required to make sense of VBA function calls.

.NET won't interpret the function calls, nor can you substitute .NET
functions. This is because your ADO calls are going to a separate Jet
server instance, which has no knowledge of the context in which it is
called.

In short, you are limited to native Jet SQL for your queries. This
includes the aggregate functions like Sum and Avg, mathematical
operators and string concatenation, and the expressions Between, In and
Like. You may also be able to extend your reach by using the ODBC Scalar
functions, although I haven't tried this.

-Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net

Do you know if my queries (stored procedures) that use say dateadd (ie
hard coded into the query) will fail?

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul  6 10:33:08 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:33:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A564@infoserver01.infostat.local>

If you want to use Access functions, you need to be *in* Access.
However, if the environment doesn't support those functions, they won't
work anyhow.  Left, Mid, etc., are VBA functions, not Access functions,
and trying to use VBA functions in managed code in .Net can give you
entirely unexpected results even when you don't get an outright error.
Is there a reason you are reluctant to change the queries?  

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net


Ken
thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the
VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access
session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and this
would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access BE
they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an instance
each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?  
 
I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled ,
maybe someone can offer a solution.......
 
 
I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g.
01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
 
Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function
calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would
return this record.
 
Thanks
Richard

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Ken Ismert
Sent: Tue 05/07/2005 18:38
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net



Yes, they will fail. This is not unique to .NET. Simply put, if you open
a Jet database using DAO, ADO, or ADO.NET, any queries that reference
VBA functions like DateAdd will fail.

Your earlier thinking was correct: to get DateAdd to work in a query,
you would need Access installed on the machine, and would have to open
it via automation. The Access application instance would then provide
the VBA environment required to make sense of VBA function calls.

.NET won't interpret the function calls, nor can you substitute .NET
functions. This is because your ADO calls are going to a separate Jet
server instance, which has no knowledge of the context in which it is
called.

In short, you are limited to native Jet SQL for your queries. This
includes the aggregate functions like Sum and Avg, mathematical
operators and string concatenation, and the expressions Between, In and
Like. You may also be able to extend your reach by using the ODBC Scalar
functions, although I haven't tried this.

-Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net

Do you know if my queries (stored procedures) that use say dateadd (ie
hard coded into the query) will fail?

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From rl_stewart at highstream.net  Wed Jul  6 13:10:42 2005
From: rl_stewart at highstream.net (Robert L. Stewart)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 13:10:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
In-Reply-To: <200507061700.j66H0CR13813@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200507061700.j66H0CR13813@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050706130915.022756d0@pop3.highstream.net>

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the VBA 
>dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access 
>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled , 
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g. 
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function calls 
>[or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard




From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jul  6 18:13:20 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:13:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP address
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA883534DB9@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <42CC6590.3090507@shaw.ca>

Cannot Log On to Web Site Requiring Case-Sensitive User Name
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;228914

However it is more likely bet, that this is the cause if the the below 
IE security patch installed.
I think these series of  patches went in last year.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/832894/

Look under technical details of this IE patch

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS04-004.mspx
The following URL syntax is no longer supported in Internet Explorer or 
Windows Explorer after you install this software update:

http(s)://username:password at server/resource.ext

Details of workarounds for coding via WinInet or UrlMon is available 
below or how to do a registry hack to disable uid password suppresion.
A security update is available that modifies the default behavior of 
Internet Explorer for handling user information in HTTP and in HTTPS URLs

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;834489

I think you can also put the uid and password in an encrypted http 
header and use winhhtp or xmlhttp.


Darren Dick wrote:

>Hi Guys
>Way OT, but I wanna code it into an app.
>On some WebPages we are forced to logon to a web site using
>the standard Web version of a logon box comes up asking for the
>User Name and password for that site. (These are NOT sites I or we have
>designed)
>
>It's the generic one
>See a screen dump at 
>http://tripledee.com.au/accessd/Generic_Logon.jpg
>
>Anyway...my question is this
>I can pass credentials to an ftp session by doing something like this
>
>ftp://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au
>
>Cool
>
>When I try the same syntax using
>http://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au
>In an attempt to bypass the screen in the screen dump it fails.
>
>Does anyone know a way to do it?
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jul  6 18:30:25 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:30:25 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A564@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <42CC6991.1050205@shaw.ca>

This is just a maybe grasping at straws here but if you install Office 
2003 Update: Redistributable Primary Interop Assemblies
and If you are coming from dotNet and use these PIA's just maybe you can 
do it.
Shamil has used these.

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;897646&spid=2509&sid=global
And from these classes
Microsoft.Vbe.Interop.dll
Microsoft.Office.Interop.Access.dll
dao.dll

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dno2k3ta/html/OfficePrimaryInteropAssembliesFAQ.asp

Charlotte Foust wrote:

>If you want to use Access functions, you need to be *in* Access.
>However, if the environment doesn't support those functions, they won't
>work anyhow.  Left, Mid, etc., are VBA functions, not Access functions,
>and trying to use VBA functions in managed code in .Net can give you
>entirely unexpected results even when you don't get an outright error.
>Is there a reason you are reluctant to change the queries?  
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
>Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:06 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the
>VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access
>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and this
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access BE
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an instance
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?  
> 
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled ,
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
> 
> 
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g.
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
> 
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function
>calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
>between these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would
>return this record.
> 
>Thanks
>Richard
>
>________________________________
>
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Ken Ismert
>Sent: Tue 05/07/2005 18:38
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>
>
>
>Yes, they will fail. This is not unique to .NET. Simply put, if you open
>a Jet database using DAO, ADO, or ADO.NET, any queries that reference
>VBA functions like DateAdd will fail.
>
>Your earlier thinking was correct: to get DateAdd to work in a query,
>you would need Access installed on the machine, and would have to open
>it via automation. The Access application instance would then provide
>the VBA environment required to make sense of VBA function calls.
>
>.NET won't interpret the function calls, nor can you substitute .NET
>functions. This is because your ADO calls are going to a separate Jet
>server instance, which has no knowledge of the context in which it is
>called.
>
>In short, you are limited to native Jet SQL for your queries. This
>includes the aggregate functions like Sum and Avg, mathematical
>operators and string concatenation, and the expressions Between, In and
>Like. You may also be able to extend your reach by using the ODBC Scalar
>functions, although I haven't tried this.
>
>-Ken
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:21 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>
>Do you know if my queries (stored procedures) that use say dateadd (ie
>hard coded into the query) will fail?
>
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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Jul  6 19:05:19 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:05:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP address
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA883535058@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Thanks to all who responded
Darren

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP
address

Cannot Log On to Web Site Requiring Case-Sensitive User Name
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;228914

However it is more likely bet, that this is the cause if the the below
IE security patch installed.
I think these series of  patches went in last year.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/832894/

Look under technical details of this IE patch

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS04-004.mspx
The following URL syntax is no longer supported in Internet Explorer or
Windows Explorer after you install this software update:

http(s)://username:password at server/resource.ext

Details of workarounds for coding via WinInet or UrlMon is available
below or how to do a registry hack to disable uid password suppresion.
A security update is available that modifies the default behavior of
Internet Explorer for handling user information in HTTP and in HTTPS
URLs

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;834489

I think you can also put the uid and password in an encrypted http
header and use winhhtp or xmlhttp.


Darren Dick wrote:

>Hi Guys
>Way OT, but I wanna code it into an app.
>On some WebPages we are forced to logon to a web site using
>the standard Web version of a logon box comes up asking for the
>User Name and password for that site. (These are NOT sites I or we have
>designed)
>
>It's the generic one
>See a screen dump at 
>http://tripledee.com.au/accessd/Generic_Logon.jpg
>
>Anyway...my question is this
>I can pass credentials to an ftp session by doing something like this
>
>ftp://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au
>
>Cool
>
>When I try the same syntax using
>http://UserName:Password at someServer.com.au
>In an attempt to bypass the screen in the screen dump it fails.
>
>Does anyone know a way to do it?
>
>Many thanks
>
>Darren
>  
>

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From stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz  Wed Jul  6 22:04:26 2005
From: stephen at bondsoftware.co.nz (Stephen Bond)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:04:26 +1200
Subject: [AccessD] OT - MS Query
Message-ID: <70F3D727890C784291D8433E9C418F29088B1E@server.bondsoftware.co.nz>

A question from a local client - he uses MS Query.
 
<snip>
I have a defined range that I'm querying.  One column contains mainly numeric data but also some characters.  When I query this column it returns all rows that contain only numerals and blank rows that contain any characters. The number format for this column  is 'general'.  
Why doesn't MSQuery show the rows with characters in this column yet the next column is mainly characters and this one displays correctly?
 
Tried some other things and it seem that MS Query will return data from a column that contains both character or numerical entries but not both.  If you have more entries with any numerals then these cells with be displayed and no cells that have characters will be displayed.  It seems that query looks at what data is in the cells and displays one type or the other but not both.  I my case it's a list of product codes, an example of which is below.  In this example only the rows that had a character in it will be displayed.
What gives?
 
 
Product Code	
	
517	
0517bro	
0517bsa	
0517buf	
0517cre	
0517pwh	
0517whi	
1001	
1001bu	
1002	
1002BUF	
1003	
1003buf	
1005	
1005BUF	
1012	
1017bsa	
1017buf	
1017bufr	
1017cre	
1017gsl	
1017whi	
1019	
1030	
1099PMC	
</snip>
 
Stephen Bond

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jul  7 02:47:12 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:47:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <42CC6991.1050205@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0IJ800ADTYYRW1@l-daemon>

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim



From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Jul  7 03:13:07 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:13:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507070804.j67844r04045@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Hi

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo does work 

for example UnavailableFrom=07/07/2005 09:30
UnavailableTo=07/07/2005 19:30
Yourdate=07/07/2005 

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom is not satisfied

Richard

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stewart
Sent: 06 July 2005 19:11
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the 
>VBA
>dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access 
>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and
this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access
BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an
instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled ,
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g.
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function 
>calls
>[or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return
this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard


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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Jul  7 03:15:38 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:15:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507070806.j6786Zr04264@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Hi
<Is there a reason you are reluctant to change the queries?  >
No, just I was struggling to get the correct SQL criteria to work
without using DateAdd function or format function
Richard

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: 06 July 2005 16:33
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net


If you want to use Access functions, you need to be *in* Access.
However, if the environment doesn't support those functions, they won't
work anyhow.  Left, Mid, etc., are VBA functions, not Access functions,
and trying to use VBA functions in managed code in .Net can give you
entirely unexpected results even when you don't get an outright error.
Is there a reason you are reluctant to change the queries?  

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net


Ken
thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the
VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access
session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and this
would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access BE
they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an instance
each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?  
 
I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled ,
maybe someone can offer a solution.......
 
 
I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g.
01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
 
Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function
calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would
return this record.
 
Thanks
Richard

________________________________

From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Ken Ismert
Sent: Tue 05/07/2005 18:38
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net



Yes, they will fail. This is not unique to .NET. Simply put, if you open
a Jet database using DAO, ADO, or ADO.NET, any queries that reference
VBA functions like DateAdd will fail.

Your earlier thinking was correct: to get DateAdd to work in a query,
you would need Access installed on the machine, and would have to open
it via automation. The Access application instance would then provide
the VBA environment required to make sense of VBA function calls.

.NET won't interpret the function calls, nor can you substitute .NET
functions. This is because your ADO calls are going to a separate Jet
server instance, which has no knowledge of the context in which it is
called.

In short, you are limited to native Jet SQL for your queries. This
includes the aggregate functions like Sum and Avg, mathematical
operators and string concatenation, and the expressions Between, In and
Like. You may also be able to extend your reach by using the ODBC Scalar
functions, although I haven't tried this.

-Ken


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Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net

Do you know if my queries (stored procedures) that use say dateadd (ie
hard coded into the query) will fail?

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From Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be  Thu Jul  7 03:23:56 2005
From: Erwin.Craps at ithelps.be (Erwin Craps - IT Helps)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:23:56 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5D28@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you
also changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers
from the same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something
a while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done
by entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network
no longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being
worked on is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk  Thu Jul  7 04:03:49 2005
From: Paul.Rogers at SummitMedia.co.uk (Paul Rodgers)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:03:49 +0100 
Subject: [AccessD] Dishonest crosstab query 
Message-ID: <1FF4D9105232EB4DA1901BB7D175877E03F75D@s003.wolds.summitmedia.co.uk>

This crosstab query should arrive with 10 columns, but it makes 15. And some
of the fictitious columns have totals, so it isn't a matter of simply
deleting the unwanted columns. 

I think the fault lies in my join arrangement - but I can't spot it. 


		TRANSFORM Count(qryEmployees.Roots) AS Ethnicity
		SELECT qryEmpWorkers.DailyGrind AS Work
		FROM qryEmpWorkers INNER JOIN qryEmployees ON
qryEmpWorkers.EmployeeIDFK = qryEmployees.EmployeeID
		GROUP BY qryEmpWorkers.DailyGrind
		PIVOT qryEmployees.Roots;

Be grateful for guidance. 

Cheers paul 

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Jul  7 07:08:30 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:08:30 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL
Message-ID: <200507071248.j67CmAr23317@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Hi

Is there a way of exporting Access queries into SQL (the import from SQL
seems to over look the queries - is this correct?) _ I have a system
that has many queries and I preferable wish to avoid cut and paste.

I used to have a program (downloaded from somewhere) that would having
specified an mdb produce  code that created/recreated the completed db
(tables etc) - can't find this - anyone else come across this?

Thanks

Richard


From mikedorism at verizon.net  Thu Jul  7 08:28:31 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 09:28:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL
In-Reply-To: <200507071248.j67CmAr23317@smarthost.yourcomms.net>
Message-ID: <000601c582f7$c55ebb20$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

You can upsize the database to SQL and then use the upsize report results to
review all the queries that didn't make it.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:09 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL


Hi

Is there a way of exporting Access queries into SQL (the import from SQL
seems to over look the queries - is this correct?) _ I have a system that
has many queries and I preferable wish to avoid cut and paste.

I used to have a program (downloaded from somewhere) that would having
specified an mdb produce  code that created/recreated the completed db
(tables etc) - can't find this - anyone else come across this?

Thanks

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jul  7 09:04:00 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 07:04:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5D28@stekelbes.ithelps.local>
Message-ID: <0IJ900N16GEP1K@l-daemon>

Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you
also changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers
from the same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something
a while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done
by entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network
no longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being
worked on is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Jul  7 09:49:43 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 10:49:43 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1279CC4F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Jul  7 09:53:00 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:53:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL
Message-ID: <200507071443.j67Ehur01837@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Thanks but only 3/4 out of 40+ of my procs/queries where  copied


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Sent: 07 July 2005 14:29
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL


You can upsize the database to SQL and then use the upsize report
results to review all the queries that didn't make it.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:09 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL


Hi

Is there a way of exporting Access queries into SQL (the import from SQL
seems to over look the queries - is this correct?) _ I have a system
that has many queries and I preferable wish to avoid cut and paste.

I used to have a program (downloaded from somewhere) that would having
specified an mdb produce  code that created/recreated the completed db
(tables etc) - can't find this - anyone else come across this?

Thanks

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jul  7 10:22:48 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 08:22:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B01@infoserver01.infostat.local>

No, it wouldn't be.  YourDate is the equivalent of 07/07/2005 00:00,
since dates always have a time component and the default is midnight.
So YourDate would be less than UnavailableFrom.

Charlotte Foust


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From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


Hi

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo does work 

for example UnavailableFrom=07/07/2005 09:30 UnavailableTo=07/07/2005
19:30 Yourdate=07/07/2005 

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom is not satisfied

Richard

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stewart
Sent: 06 July 2005 19:11
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the
>VBA
>dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access 
>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and
this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access
BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an
instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled , 
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g. 
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function
>calls
>[or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return
this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard


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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Jul  7 10:38:16 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:38:16 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507071529.j67FTCr05237@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

I have now managed (I think) to get the correct SQL.

If D1 is the date to check then I need to supply D2 as a parameter as
well with D2= D1 + 1 day (so we get 07/07/2005 00:00  and 08/07/2005
00:00 for D1,D2)

So we check if 

 (UnavailableFrom between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableTo between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableFrom<=D1<= UnavailableTo)

If any is true then we know the date (D1) falls between the date range
UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo
Richard



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: 07 July 2005 16:23
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


No, it wouldn't be.  YourDate is the equivalent of 07/07/2005 00:00,
since dates always have a time component and the default is midnight. So
YourDate would be less than UnavailableFrom.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


Hi

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo does work 

for example UnavailableFrom=07/07/2005 09:30 UnavailableTo=07/07/2005
19:30 Yourdate=07/07/2005 

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom is not satisfied

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stewart
Sent: 06 July 2005 19:11
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the 
>VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access
>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and
this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access
BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an
instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled ,
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g.
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function 
>calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return
this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard


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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Thu Jul  7 10:56:55 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:56:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL
In-Reply-To: <200507071443.j67Ehur01837@smarthost.yourcomms.net>
Message-ID: <002701c5830c$80703290$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

For those that weren't copied, you will have to cut/paste or manually create
them because you need to examine why they didn't port over.  In most of my
cases, it boiled down to a parameter issue between how Access does things
and how SQL does them.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL


Thanks but only 3/4 out of 40+ of my procs/queries where  copied


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: 07 July 2005 14:29
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL


You can upsize the database to SQL and then use the upsize report results to
review all the queries that didn't make it.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:09 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Access queries to SQL


Hi

Is there a way of exporting Access queries into SQL (the import from SQL
seems to over look the queries - is this correct?) _ I have a system that
has many queries and I preferable wish to avoid cut and paste.

I used to have a program (downloaded from somewhere) that would having
specified an mdb produce  code that created/recreated the completed db
(tables etc) - can't find this - anyone else come across this?

Thanks

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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Thu Jul  7 10:59:25 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:59:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
In-Reply-To: <200507071529.j67FTCr05237@smarthost.yourcomms.net>
Message-ID: <002801c5830c$d9807d90$2f01a8c0@hargrove.internal>

You don't need to supply D2 as a parameter, you could let the sproc
calculate it for you.

DECLARE D2 datetime

SET D2 = DateAdd(d, 1, D1)

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


I have now managed (I think) to get the correct SQL.

If D1 is the date to check then I need to supply D2 as a parameter as well
with D2= D1 + 1 day (so we get 07/07/2005 00:00  and 08/07/2005 00:00 for
D1,D2)

So we check if 

 (UnavailableFrom between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableTo between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableFrom<=D1<= UnavailableTo)

If any is true then we know the date (D1) falls between the date range
UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: 07 July 2005 16:23
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


No, it wouldn't be.  YourDate is the equivalent of 07/07/2005 00:00, since
dates always have a time component and the default is midnight. So YourDate
would be less than UnavailableFrom.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


Hi

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo does work 

for example UnavailableFrom=07/07/2005 09:30 UnavailableTo=07/07/2005 19:30
Yourdate=07/07/2005 

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom is not satisfied

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Stewart
Sent: 06 July 2005 19:11
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the
>VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access
>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and
this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access
BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an
instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled , 
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g. 
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function
>calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return
this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard


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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Thu Jul  7 11:02:45 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:02:45 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] E-Signatures and Audit Trails
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3A4@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

2 of the Access 2000 database systems that we use here are currently being
reviewed to determine if they need to be compliant to the FDA regulation 21
CFR Part 11 (Electronic Records; Electronic Signatures).
My prediction is that the answer will be yes.

With that said, I need to find a way to incorporate e-signatures and audit
trails into our systems.
I would hate to reinvent the wheel if someone has already tackled this
problem and is willing to share. :)

Does anyone have a solution for this that I could incorporate into our
existing system that they would be will to share/sell?
Or does anyone know of a site that shares/sells this kind of solution?

Thanks!
JR




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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jul  7 11:03:14 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:03:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1279CC4F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <200507071603.j67G3HVL100342@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>

I agree. I think its because of the way w98 announces and caches P2P
computers and shares. If you remove the share from the troublesome PCs and
then add a new share it will probably show up. You can sometimes force it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.

HTH
John B.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim   

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jul  7 11:04:38 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:04:38 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B04@infoserver01.infostat.local>

So you're checking a single day to see if a given date (unavailableFrom
or UnavailableTo) falls within that day?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


I have now managed (I think) to get the correct SQL.

If D1 is the date to check then I need to supply D2 as a parameter as
well with D2= D1 + 1 day (so we get 07/07/2005 00:00  and 08/07/2005
00:00 for D1,D2)

So we check if 

 (UnavailableFrom between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableTo between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableFrom<=D1<= UnavailableTo)

If any is true then we know the date (D1) falls between the date range
UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: 07 July 2005 16:23
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


No, it wouldn't be.  YourDate is the equivalent of 07/07/2005 00:00,
since dates always have a time component and the default is midnight. So
YourDate would be less than UnavailableFrom.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


Hi

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo does work 

for example UnavailableFrom=07/07/2005 09:30 UnavailableTo=07/07/2005
19:30 Yourdate=07/07/2005 

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom is not satisfied

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stewart
Sent: 06 July 2005 19:11
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the
>VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access
>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and
this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access
BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an
instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled , 
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g. 
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function
>calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return
this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  7 12:20:10 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:20:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <200507071603.j67G3HVL100342@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFMEEMDOAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

<<You can sometimes force it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.>>

  A better way to refresh is to drop to the DOS prompt and do:

  NBTSTAT -R

  You can also use NBTSTAT to see what's going on (use it with no switch to
see all the options). NBTSTAT lets you look at each machines name cache
table.

Jim.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


I agree. I think its because of the way w98 announces and caches P2P
computers and shares. If you remove the share from the troublesome PCs and
then add a new share it will probably show up. You can sometimes force it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.

HTH
John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network.

Erwin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From DElam at jenkens.com  Thu Jul  7 13:26:32 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:26:32 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492CAAE@natexch.jenkens.com>

I did not want Alan to be deprived of another poker story.  This should have
a new entry daily for about a week.

http://www.slate.com/id/2122188/entry/0/

Debbie



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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jul  7 14:09:07 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:09:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary
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Wrong list Debbie :o) 

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Subject: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary

I did not want Alan to be deprived of another poker story.  This should have
a new entry daily for about a week.

http://www.slate.com/id/2122188/entry/0/

Debbie



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From darsant at gmail.com  Thu Jul  7 14:12:18 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:12:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] E-Signatures and Audit Trails
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3A4@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3A4@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a05070712125c5cd808@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/7/05, Joe Rojas <JRojas at tnco-inc.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> 2 of the Access 2000 database systems that we use here are currently being
> reviewed to determine if they need to be compliant to the FDA regulation 21
> CFR Part 11 (Electronic Records; Electronic Signatures).
> My prediction is that the answer will be yes.
> 
> With that said, I need to find a way to incorporate e-signatures and audit
> trails into our systems.
> I would hate to reinvent the wheel if someone has already tackled this
> problem and is willing to share. :)
> 
> Does anyone have a solution for this that I could incorporate into our
> existing system that they would be will to share/sell?
> Or does anyone know of a site that shares/sells this kind of solution?
> 
> Thanks!
> JR

Depends on how you want to do it, and how picky they are.

We set up a generic table with timestamp and a few other fields, then
made a function that could be put before any common database updates
(order processing, payments, etc) that added a record to the
transaction table via the function. We made a more specialized one for
inventory tracking and billing changes. Only downside is you've got to
add it anywhere you touch the data you want to track.

It's not the most secure thing, as someone could still go into the
audit table and mess with the entries, but it helped us when we had
something die on the code side and had to reconstruct the previous
data.

-- 
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jul  7 14:23:48 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:23:48 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Querydef weirdness
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABECAC@ADGSERVER>

Ok, one of my classic stupid Access issues.

I'm using Access XP.  The scenario is I have a form that has a combo box
with projects in it.  I use a union query to add '(All)' to the top of the
list.  When the user selects (All), we want the output to contain all of the
projects.  Otherwise only the project the user has selected.

For this one report, I have this in the where part of the query:

Iif([forms]![FormData]![ProjectID]=0,[project].[projectid],[forms]![FormData
]![ProjectID])

This basically comes out as 'where projectid=projectid' if the
Formdata!ProjectID is 0 
and 'where projectid=[forms]![FormData]![ProjectID]' if the
Formdata!ProjectID is not 0 .

This works fine when running the query by itself or from the report.  Well
the user wanted the sum of the data on the chooser form when a project (or
'(All)' is selected.  So I run the query via a querydef and I get the
infamous 'expected 1 parameters' error message.  If I remove the where part
of the query, it runs fine from the querydef.

I talked to a co-worker and he has had problems accessing forms from a query
in a querydef too.  Has anyone else run into this?  Anyone have a
work-a-round?

Thanks,
Bobby



From DElam at jenkens.com  Thu Jul  7 14:33:30 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:33:30 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492CAB2@natexch.jenkens.com>

Sorry!  I thought I was sending to OT.  Guess I did not pay attention to the
address since they are together.

Debbie

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:09 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary


Wrong list Debbie :o) 

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:27 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary

I did not want Alan to be deprived of another poker story.  This should have
a new entry daily for about a week.

http://www.slate.com/id/2122188/entry/0/

Debbie



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jul  7 14:33:56 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:33:56 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1279CC4F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <0IJ900M12VOMFU@l-daemon>

Hi Lambert:

After renaming the computers we could not get the machines to recognize each
other on the network. We had turn-off and on each system a couple of times.
This morning when I can in the computers were now communicating.... 

Anyway the system is now working just fine and I am not sure why it was not,
before but it now is. Must be from living right.

Thanks for the message and help. Now I feel a little silly.

Have a good day.
Jim 

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim   

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jul  7 14:42:09 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:42:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <200507071603.j67G3HVL100342@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <0IJ90030CW2C44@l-daemon>

Hi John:

Problem seems to have resolved it's self. See previous email for details.
Maybe it is a Win98 thing.

Thanks for your help and suggestions.
Jim 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:03 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I agree. I think its because of the way w98 announces and caches P2P
computers and shares. If you remove the share from the troublesome PCs and
then add a new share it will probably show up. You can sometimes force it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.

HTH
John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Jul  7 14:44:22 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 05:44:22 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Querydef weirdness
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABECAC@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <42CE12B6.22139.6DF5027@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 7 Jul 2005 at 15:23, Bobby Heid wrote:

> This works fine when running the query by itself or from the report.  Well
> the user wanted the sum of the data on the chooser form when a project (or
> '(All)' is selected.  So I run the query via a querydef and I get the
> infamous 'expected 1 parameters' error message.  If I remove the where part
> of the query, it runs fine from the querydef.
> 
> I talked to a co-worker and he has had problems accessing forms from a query
> in a querydef too.  Has anyone else run into this?  

Frequently :-(

> Anyone have a  work-a-round?
> 

I use a static function to hold the value from the control which I set 
immediately before calling the query. Something like 

Static Function TempStore(Optional varInput As Variant) As Variant
    Dim varStore As Variant
    
    'Initialise the variant if the function is called
    'the first time with no Input
    If varStore = Empty Then varStore = Null
    
    'Update the store if the Input is present
    If Not IsMissing(varInput) Then varStore = varInput
    
    'return the stored value
    TempStore = varStore
End Function

Replace [forms]![FormData]![ProjectID] with TempStore() in the query and 
use

"TempStore [ProjectID]" just before you call the query.







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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Jul  7 14:45:31 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:45:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary
In-Reply-To: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492CAB2@natexch.jenkens.com>
Message-ID: <200507071945.j67JjYpM157966@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net>

I figured, that's OK. Making a little slip-up on AccessD is better than
making one over on OT!
;-)

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] World Series of Poker online diary

Sorry!  I thought I was sending to OT.  Guess I did not pay attention to the
address since they are together.

Debbie



From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jul  7 14:58:22 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 12:58:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFMEEMDOAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0IJ900926WTDVN@l-daemon>

Thanks for that Jim.

That was the item that I could just not remember. The site starting working
after it sat on over-night so the system must refresh it's after a certain
amount of time passes. The nbstat -R command would do the same instantly. I
will not forget it for another few years.

Thanks again
Jim 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

<<You can sometimes force it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.>>

  A better way to refresh is to drop to the DOS prompt and do:

  NBTSTAT -R

  You can also use NBTSTAT to see what's going on (use it with no switch to
see all the options). NBTSTAT lets you look at each machines name cache
table.

Jim.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


I agree. I think its because of the way w98 announces and caches P2P
computers and shares. If you remove the share from the troublesome PCs and
then add a new share it will probably show up. You can sometimes force it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.

HTH
John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network.

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Jul  7 15:18:16 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:18:16 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to Clipboard error
	message?
Message-ID: <e8b1c95cca754a58835beaa83b684523@christopherhawkins.com>

We may have discussed this in years past, I don't recall.

A client with a mission-critical but shoddily-written Access app ( a situation we're all far, far too familiar with) is having a problem with users stepping on one another's changes and getting that error message that says:

"This record has been changed by another user since you started editing it. If you save the record, you will overwrite the changes the other user made.

Copying the changes to the clipboard will let you look at the values the other user entered, and then paste your changes back in if you decide to make the changes. "

There's GOT to be a way to capture this message and either handle the conflict programmatically, or swap out a friendlier message, or both.? Even if it involves hooking into an API somewhere, there's GOT to be a way.

Has anyone done it, or know someone who has, or know where to find pointers on how to do it, or anything?

-C-

 


From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Jul  7 15:40:10 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:40:10 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1279CE4B@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I suspect that the reason was that Windows does not automatically refresh
the list of computers on the LAN. There's some time interval that it waits
before rebroadcasting them (if that's the right term), something around 30
minutes I think. So when you powered them all up the next day the network
found all the new computer names.

Something like that anyway. Jim might have a better explanation.

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Lambert:

After renaming the computers we could not get the machines to recognize each
other on the network. We had turn-off and on each system a couple of times.
This morning when I can in the computers were now communicating.... 

Anyway the system is now working just fine and I am not sure why it was not,
before but it now is. Must be from living right.

Thanks for the message and help. Now I feel a little silly.

Have a good day.
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim   

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Jul  7 15:50:37 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:50:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to Clipboard
	errormessage?
In-Reply-To: <13657529.1120768134626.JavaMail.root@sniper23>
Message-ID: <000001c58335$8c270540$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Christopher,

If you set the database to Edited Record, then users can't step on each
other's toes.  When one user begins to edit a record, all others are
prevented from beginning to make any changes until the first user's changes
are saved to the table.

HTH,
Dan Waters

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to Clipboard
errormessage?

We may have discussed this in years past, I don't recall.

A client with a mission-critical but shoddily-written Access app ( a
situation we're all far, far too familiar with) is having a problem with
users stepping on one another's changes and getting that error message that
says:

"This record has been changed by another user since you started editing it.
If you save the record, you will overwrite the changes the other user made.

Copying the changes to the clipboard will let you look at the values the
other user entered, and then paste your changes back in if you decide to
make the changes. "

There's GOT to be a way to capture this message and either handle the
conflict programmatically, or swap out a friendlier message, or both.? Even
if it involves hooking into an API somewhere, there's GOT to be a way.

Has anyone done it, or know someone who has, or know where to find pointers
on how to do it, or anything?

-C-


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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Jul  7 15:58:59 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:58:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] E-Signatures and Audit Trails
In-Reply-To: <11043080.1120763740299.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
Message-ID: <000101c58336$b640a650$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Joe,

The FDA has CFR 21 Part 11 under review.  You should read this as it is now,
and also work with the Regulatory Manager to find out if he/she has a sense
of where the regulation is going to end up.  Sometimes they can get early
information.

Also review with the Reg Manager to see what they will need for documented
validation of the system.  This could be the lion's share of the work you'll
need to do.

Best of Luck!
Dan Waters


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] E-Signatures and Audit Trails

On 7/7/05, Joe Rojas <JRojas at tnco-inc.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> 2 of the Access 2000 database systems that we use here are currently being
> reviewed to determine if they need to be compliant to the FDA regulation
21
> CFR Part 11 (Electronic Records; Electronic Signatures).
> My prediction is that the answer will be yes.
> 
> With that said, I need to find a way to incorporate e-signatures and audit
> trails into our systems.
> I would hate to reinvent the wheel if someone has already tackled this
> problem and is willing to share. :)
> 
> Does anyone have a solution for this that I could incorporate into our
> existing system that they would be will to share/sell?
> Or does anyone know of a site that shares/sells this kind of solution?
> 
> Thanks!
> JR

Depends on how you want to do it, and how picky they are.

We set up a generic table with timestamp and a few other fields, then
made a function that could be put before any common database updates
(order processing, payments, etc) that added a record to the
transaction table via the function. We made a more specialized one for
inventory tracking and billing changes. Only downside is you've got to
add it anywhere you touch the data you want to track.

It's not the most secure thing, as someone could still go into the
audit table and mess with the entries, but it helped us when we had
something die on the code side and had to reconstruct the previous
data.

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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  7 18:01:25 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:01:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1279CE4B@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFMEGPDOAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Lambert,

  Yeah that's about it.  When a machine boots up, one of the first things it
does is try to discover if there is a Master Browser on the subnet.  If no,
it elects itself.  If yes, then an arbitration process occurs to determine
which would be the better one.

  The Master Browser keeps the "official" list of what's on the subnet.
This is what you see when you browse network neighborhood. So if the master
browser is out of date or non-existent, you've got problems.  The NBTSTAT -R
clears the local table and requeries the master browser for a new list.

  This whole thing reminds me once again how good Microsoft is at taking old
technology and making it "new". The P2P built into Windows is actually the
old LAN Manager product LOL.  That's when we went from Win 3.1 to 3.11
(Windows for Workgroups).

Jim.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 4:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


I suspect that the reason was that Windows does not automatically refresh
the list of computers on the LAN. There's some time interval that it waits
before rebroadcasting them (if that's the right term), something around 30
minutes I think. So when you powered them all up the next day the network
found all the new computer names.

Something like that anyway. Jim might have a better explanation.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Lambert:

After renaming the computers we could not get the machines to recognize each
other on the network. We had turn-off and on each system a couple of times.
This morning when I can in the computers were now communicating....

Anyway the system is now working just fine and I am not sure why it was not,
before but it now is. Must be from living right.

Thanks for the message and help. Now I feel a little silly.

Have a good day.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network.

Erwin

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jul  7 18:07:37 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 16:07:37 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] E-Signatures and Audit Trails
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3A4@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <42CDB5B9.2010709@shaw.ca>

Couple of thoughts which may or may not be useful.

You might want to check through the ARMA site for general info
http://www.arma.org

Download a free 200 page e-book copy from Microsoft needs mail registration
Keeping Your Business Safe from Attack: Passwords and Permissions is a prescriptive guide to
implementing security best practices in a Windows network environment. Covers auditing and DRM

http://list.windowsitpro.com/t?ctl=DEBF:29783



I have seen  this method used to sign PDF forms with a key chain USB 
token which
probably could be adapted to Access, the USB contains a digital certificate.

http://www.formrouter.com/digital-signature/index.html


 By e-signatures do you mean something like a PGP key, digital 
certificate or a physical signature image
Here is a partial method to start capturing signature images, yo may 
need a tablet or some other input device.

Follow these steps to enable handwriting capabilities to Access.

1.  Download and install the TabletPC SDK from MS.  This will register 
the InkEdit
and InkPicture controls.
2.  Open Access and go to a form
3.  Select  the Additonal Controls icon and Select the Microsoft InkEdit or
Microsoft InkPicture
4.  Drop the control on the form , right click and select all.  All the
properties and methods will be exposed.

The InkEdit control is a superset of the RichText control. The InkEdit 
control is designed
to provide an easy way to capture, display, and recognize ink. InkEd.dll

How did you initially install the control by the Office XP Tablet PC Pack
or by the Ink SDK?


1.  Download and install the TabletPC SDK.  This will register the InkEdit
and InkPicture controls.
2.  Open Access and go to a form
3.  Select  the Additonal Controls icon and Select the Microsoft InkEdit or
Microsoft InkPicture
4.  Drop the control on the form , right click and select all.  All the
properties and methods will be exposed.

Maybe you can set a reference to "Microsoft InkEdit Control"

There should be a registry key set on non tablet pc's
the SDK installer sets the DWORD
        
\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\M?icrosoft\TabletPC\Controls\Ena?bleInkCollectionOnNonTablets 

to be equal to 1. 

If you are redistributing the mdb, this has to be set manually by your 
installer.

>Hi All,
>
>2 of the Access 2000 database systems that we use here are currently being
>reviewed to determine if they need to be compliant to the FDA regulation 21
>CFR Part 11 (Electronic Records; Electronic Signatures).
>My prediction is that the answer will be yes.
>
>With that said, I need to find a way to incorporate e-signatures and audit
>trails into our systems.
>I would hate to reinvent the wheel if someone has already tackled this
>problem and is willing to share. :)
>
>Does anyone have a solution for this that I could incorporate into our
>existing system that they would be will to share/sell?
>Or does anyone know of a site that shares/sells this kind of solution?
>
>Thanks!
>JR
>
>
>  
>

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Canada





From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Thu Jul  7 18:17:19 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:17:19 -0600
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to
	Clipboard errormessage?
Message-ID: <3120136ca7004a75a1fb171854b88b58@christopherhawkins.com>

Yes, I know about Edited Record.? The problem is that the creator didn't use it when the app was originally built, ?and due to the way this kludgey thing has evolved over the years, changing it to Edited Record now causes errors.

Hence my need for a way to hook into that error.

Surely someone at some point must have done this?

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:52 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to Clipboard errormessage? 

Christopher,

If you set the database to Edited Record, then users can't step on each
other's toes. When one user begins to edit a record, all others are
prevented from beginning to make any changes until the first user's changes
are saved to the table.

HTH,
Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to Clipboard
errormessage?

We may have discussed this in years past, I don't recall.

A client with a mission-critical but shoddily-written Access app ( a
situation we're all far, far too familiar with) is having a problem with
users stepping on one another's changes and getting that error message that
says:

"This record has been changed by another user since you started editing it.
If you save the record, you will overwrite the changes the other user made.

Copying the changes to the clipboard will let you look at the values the
other user entered, and then paste your changes back in if you decide to
make the changes. "

There's GOT to be a way to capture this message and either handle the
conflict programmatically, or swap out a friendlier message, or both.? Even
if it involves hooking into an API somewhere, there's GOT to be a way.

Has anyone done it, or know someone who has, or know where to find pointers
on how to do it, or anything?

-C-

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Jul  7 20:53:59 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:53:59 -0700
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy
	toClipboard errormessage?
In-Reply-To: <3120136ca7004a75a1fb171854b88b58@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <0IJA00MNVDA215@l-daemon>

Hi Christopher:

Have you checked out the Forms events like Form_AfterUpdate,
Form_AfterInsert or Form_Error to see if you can catch the errors there?

HTH
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 4:17 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: re: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy
toClipboard errormessage?

Yes, I know about Edited Record.? The problem is that the creator didn't use
it when the app was originally built, ?and due to the way this kludgey thing
has evolved over the years, changing it to Edited Record now causes errors.

Hence my need for a way to hook into that error.

Surely someone at some point must have done this?

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:52 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to
Clipboard errormessage? 

Christopher,

If you set the database to Edited Record, then users can't step on each
other's toes. When one user begins to edit a record, all others are
prevented from beginning to make any changes until the first user's changes
are saved to the table.

HTH,
Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:18 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Capturing the Drop Changes/Copy to Clipboard
errormessage?

We may have discussed this in years past, I don't recall.

A client with a mission-critical but shoddily-written Access app ( a
situation we're all far, far too familiar with) is having a problem with
users stepping on one another's changes and getting that error message that
says:

"This record has been changed by another user since you started editing it.
If you save the record, you will overwrite the changes the other user made.

Copying the changes to the clipboard will let you look at the values the
other user entered, and then paste your changes back in if you decide to
make the changes. "

There's GOT to be a way to capture this message and either handle the
conflict programmatically, or swap out a friendlier message, or both.? Even
if it involves hooking into an API somewhere, there's GOT to be a way.

Has anyone done it, or know someone who has, or know where to find pointers
on how to do it, or anything?

-C-

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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Fri Jul  8 04:47:40 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:47:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507080938.j689car26789@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Doris
As per intial email, I can't use DateAdd as this is a VBA function and
my vb.net FE/A2K BE will bomb out (not havinf MS Access/VBA etc
installed)

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: 07 July 2005 16:59
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


You don't need to supply D2 as a parameter, you could let the sproc
calculate it for you.

DECLARE D2 datetime

SET D2 = DateAdd(d, 1, D1)

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.
www.hargroveinc.com


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


I have now managed (I think) to get the correct SQL.

If D1 is the date to check then I need to supply D2 as a parameter as
well with D2= D1 + 1 day (so we get 07/07/2005 00:00  and 08/07/2005
00:00 for
D1,D2)

So we check if 

 (UnavailableFrom between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableTo between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableFrom<=D1<= UnavailableTo)

If any is true then we know the date (D1) falls between the date range
UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: 07 July 2005 16:23
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


No, it wouldn't be.  YourDate is the equivalent of 07/07/2005 00:00,
since dates always have a time component and the default is midnight. So
YourDate would be less than UnavailableFrom.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


Hi

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo does work 

for example UnavailableFrom=07/07/2005 09:30 UnavailableTo=07/07/2005
19:30 Yourdate=07/07/2005 

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom is not satisfied

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stewart
Sent: 06 July 2005 19:11
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the 
>VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access

>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and
this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access
BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an
instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled ,
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g.
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function 
>calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return
this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard


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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Fri Jul  8 04:49:21 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:49:21 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net
Message-ID: <200507080940.j689eHr26925@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Yes, simply people are booked away for dates/times and I wish to
highlight those people so they are not selected to carry out a job,
which takes place on a specific day.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: 07 July 2005 17:05
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


So you're checking a single day to see if a given date (unavailableFrom
or UnavailableTo) falls within that day?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


I have now managed (I think) to get the correct SQL.

If D1 is the date to check then I need to supply D2 as a parameter as
well with D2= D1 + 1 day (so we get 07/07/2005 00:00  and 08/07/2005
00:00 for D1,D2)

So we check if 

 (UnavailableFrom between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableTo between D1 and D2) or
 (UnavailableFrom<=D1<= UnavailableTo)

If any is true then we know the date (D1) falls between the date range
UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: 07 July 2005 16:23
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


No, it wouldn't be.  YourDate is the equivalent of 07/07/2005 00:00,
since dates always have a time component and the default is midnight. So
YourDate would be less than UnavailableFrom.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Griffiths, Richard [mailto:R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


Hi

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo does work 

for example UnavailableFrom=07/07/2005 09:30 UnavailableTo=07/07/2005
19:30 Yourdate=07/07/2005 

YourDate >= UnavailableFrom is not satisfied

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Stewart
Sent: 06 July 2005 19:11
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: A2K and .Net


YourDate >= UnavailableFrom AND YourDate <= UnavailableTo

That should work the same as BETWEEN...AND



At 12:00 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:06:21 +0100
>From: "Griffiths, Richard" <R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk>
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] A2K and .Net
>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>Message-ID: <200507060857.j668vJr19891 at smarthost.yourcomms.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Ken
>thanks, as I thought. I accept that you would need to install all the 
>VBA dlls, but are you sure that you would need to instantiate an Access

>session.  I'm sure most apps would use left, mid etc in queries and
this 
>would mean say for all the many 1000's of VB apps that have an Access
BE 
>they would need to install Access (runtime or full) and load an
instance 
>each time a query was used.  Have you tried this?
>
>I have tried to use native JetSQL but for this query have struggled ,
>maybe someone can offer a solution.......
>
>
>I have two datetime fields UnavailableFrom and UnavailableTo (e.g.
>01/01/2005 08:30 and 01/01/2005 18:30)
>
>Can anyone suggest any SQL (and also native JetSQL without function 
>calls [or with permitted function calls]) to find whether a date falls
between 
>these two datetimes - so a parameter of say 01/01/2005 would return
this 
>record.
>
>Thanks
>Richard


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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jul  8 06:41:51 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 07:41:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Querydef weirdness
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C149DE@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABECAE@ADGSERVER>

Stuart,

Thanks for the idea!

Bobby

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Querydef weirdness


On 7 Jul 2005 at 15:23, Bobby Heid wrote:

> This works fine when running the query by itself or from the report.  
> Well the user wanted the sum of the data on the chooser form when a 
> project (or '(All)' is selected.  So I run the query via a querydef 
> and I get the infamous 'expected 1 parameters' error message.  If I 
> remove the where part of the query, it runs fine from the querydef.
> 
> I talked to a co-worker and he has had problems accessing forms from a 
> query in a querydef too.  Has anyone else run into this?

Frequently :-(

> Anyone have a  work-a-round?
> 

I use a static function to hold the value from the control which I set 
immediately before calling the query. Something like 

Static Function TempStore(Optional varInput As Variant) As Variant
    Dim varStore As Variant
    
    'Initialise the variant if the function is called
    'the first time with no Input
    If varStore = Empty Then varStore = Null
    
    'Update the store if the Input is present
    If Not IsMissing(varInput) Then varStore = varInput
    
    'return the stored value
    TempStore = varStore
End Function

Replace [forms]![FormData]![ProjectID] with TempStore() in the query and 
use

"TempStore [ProjectID]" just before you call the query.







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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Fri Jul  8 08:20:17 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:20:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <s2ce4596.049@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

John W Clark


From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Fri Jul  8 08:24:37 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:24:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <s2ce467f.065@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0	OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s
are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

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From pharold at proftesting.com  Fri Jul  8 08:30:00 2005
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry L Harold)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:30:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <00F5FCB4F80FDB4EB03FBAAEAD97CEAD03D0D0@EXCHANGE.ptiorl.local>

Try 
LIKE "Tylenol*"
Like "T*"
In the criteria area.
Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:20 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

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From pharold at proftesting.com  Fri Jul  8 08:32:56 2005
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry L Harold)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:32:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <00F5FCB4F80FDB4EB03FBAAEAD97CEAD03D0D1@EXCHANGE.ptiorl.local>

Append the global "*" to whatever is the value entered (as a string)
with the "&" character and then submit to the query.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s
are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

John W Clark
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Jul  8 08:37:51 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:37:51 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
In-Reply-To: <s2ce467f.065@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAPLknKnk0elGo00u9Vn/re0BAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

If I remember rightly I think it's something like

	Like '" & [YourField] & "*'"

	Like SingleQuoteDoubleQuote & [YourField] &
DoubleQuote*SingleQuoteDoubleQuote

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: 08 July 2005 14:25
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often, and I
just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of the
drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different strengths. For
example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that drug,
or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are located. I
tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't work. How is this
done?

Thank you!

John W Clark
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From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Jul  8 08:38:11 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 08:38:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03629B3D@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

In the criteria of the query try this:

Like forms!frmFormName!ControlName & "*"

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

John W Clark
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jul  8 08:39:24 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:39:24 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1279CF2D@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

You could put a criteria like this in your query design

Like [Initial Letters] & "*"

Then when the query runs the user will get a dialog asking for the initial
letters and the "*" gets tacked on the end to give you the result you want.

Lambert

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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:20 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help


This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often, and I
just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of the
drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different strengths. For
example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that drug,
or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are located. I
tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't work. How is this
done?

Thank you!

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Fri Jul  8 08:47:36 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:47:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <s2ce4c34.098@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

I really didn't want to use a form...this is just a simple table (i.e.
not a whole program) that our nursing department will use...they get an
update monthly (I think it is) and just want to quickly access any given
drug. But, I did think a form may be the answer, so I whipped up a quick
litte one. One the form I've got a text box (Text0) and a label
(Text2)...I'm just playing right now, so the names are defaults. On
the "On Change" property of Text0, I've got a statment that says
Text2.Caption = "Like '" & Text0.Text & "*'" 

This is working fine in the label, as it is showing up the way I want
it...although I just noticed that I only have single quotes...hmmmm. I
bet if I can get double quote in there it works.

Right now, if I put "t" into Text0, I see: Like 't*' in Text2,
and in the query I have [Forms]![enterfrm]![Text2] in the criteria
section. This little bugger is turning out to be...well...a little
bugger ;(

>>> pharold at proftesting.com 7/8/2005 9:32 AM >>>
Append the global "*" to whatever is the value entered (as a string)
with the "&" character and then submit to the query.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s
are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Fri Jul  8 08:50:11 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:50:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <s2ce4cae.006@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

OK! This worked...thank you! But, I thought I had already tried this...I
must have done a typo before.

>>> Lambert.Heenan at aig.com 7/8/2005 9:39 AM >>>
You could put a criteria like this in your query design

Like [Initial Letters] & "*"

Then when the query runs the user will get a dialog asking for the
initial
letters and the "*" gets tacked on the end to give you the result you
want.

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:20 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] "Like" operator help


This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I
just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the
drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different strengths.
For
example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug,
or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are
located. I
tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't work. How is
this
done?

Thank you!

John W Clark
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jul  8 11:18:19 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 18:18:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
Message-ID: <s2cec38b.066@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

This is standard behaviour of a Windows Network (peer-to-peer).

/gustav

>>> accessd at shaw.ca 07/07 9:58 pm >>>
Thanks for that Jim.

That was the item that I could just not remember. The site starting
working
after it sat on over-night so the system must refresh it's after a
certain
amount of time passes. The nbstat -R command would do the same
instantly. I
will not forget it for another few years.

Thanks again
Jim 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

<<You can sometimes force it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.>>

  A better way to refresh is to drop to the DOS prompt and do:

  NBTSTAT -R

  You can also use NBTSTAT to see what's going on (use it with no
switch to
see all the options). NBTSTAT lets you look at each machines name
cache
table.

Jim.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


I agree. I think its because of the way w98 announces and caches P2P
computers and shares. If you remove the share from the troublesome PCs
and
then add a new share it will probably show up. You can sometimes force
it to
refresh better if you go through the Netwrok places | Entire Network |
Workgroup avenue with explorer.

HTH
John B.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer.
Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it
then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any
more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it
seems
unusual.

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps
- IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you
also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from
the
same workgroup in a P2P network.

Erwin

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Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something
a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done
by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network
no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked
on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jul  8 14:45:08 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:45:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP address
In-Reply-To: <42CC6590.3090507@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200507081945.j68Jj9R15088@databaseadvisors.com>

I am not sure whether to send this to this group or to dba-Tech but here is
the issue... I was looking at the code supplied by Helen Fedemma for
interfacing Access to Outlook, and on my boxes (two are relevant) nothing
runs! I want to load her code and then talk to it via Access and I cannot
make anything work.

Has anyone made her code work successfully...

TIA,
Arthur




From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jul  8 14:47:11 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:47:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1279CC4F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <200507081947.j68JlDR15771@databaseadvisors.com>

IMO, sadly, renaming a computer breaks numerous things.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: July 7, 2005 10:50 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

I'm pretty convinced that it's the fact that you renamed the computer. Have
you tried going to the renamed machine and re-sharing a folder? Does it then
show up on other computers on this (peer-to-peer?) network?

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares


Hi Erwin:

Good thought but...

The workgroup did not change but the renamed members do not show up any more
in the network list. (This was a Windows 98 network.) That is why it seems
unusual.

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Craps - IT
Helps
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

It is normal that shares are lost when a computer changed name. If the
computer is no longer there, shares are gone to....

Network environment does not show up computers is probably due to you also
changed the workgroup name. Windows will only show up computers from the
same workgroup in a P2P network. 

Erwin

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT Lost shares

OT: I know this is completely off topic but I remember seeing something a
while back but just can not re-find it and will need the information
tomorrow.

Hi All:

Does anyone know why all the shares are lost from a station when the
computer name is changed? Reconnecting the local shares has to be done by
entering the UNC for each computer and printer and the local network no
longer shows up in the file explorer display. (The network being worked on
is an old Win98 one.)

Any help in this area would be much appreciated.

Jim

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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jul  8 14:52:14 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:52:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3A4@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <200507081952.j68JqIR16860@databaseadvisors.com>

I need to do what the subject says. The file might possibly be 1000 chars
but more likely fewer. What I would ideally like to do is this:

Dim myText as string
Dim strSourceFile as string
strSourceFile = xxxx
myText = ReadFile( strSourceFile )

And then, once I am done, post said text to a Word bookmark... but that part
is easy.

TIA,
Arthur



From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jul  8 15:39:54 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:39:54 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F12CDBA30@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Try this...

Function ReadFile(strFilePath As String) As String
Dim strFileName As String
Dim nLength As Long
Dim fh As Long
    strFileName = Dir(strFilePath)
    If strFileName & "" = "" Then
        ReadFile = ""
    Else
        nLength = FileLen(strFilePath)
        fh = FreeFile
        Open strFilePath For Input As #fh
        ReadFile = Input(nLength, #fh)
        Close #fh
    End If
End Function

Lambert

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Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar


I need to do what the subject says. The file might possibly be 1000 chars
but more likely fewer. What I would ideally like to do is this:

Dim myText as string
Dim strSourceFile as string
strSourceFile = xxxx
myText = ReadFile( strSourceFile )

And then, once I am done, post said text to a Word bookmark... but that part
is easy.

TIA,
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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Fri Jul  8 15:41:38 2005
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:41:38 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A154F804E@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Arthur,
If the file you're reading is just a simple text file, then the following
should work:

Function ImportTextFileIntoVar()

    Dim strTextLine
    Dim strFileText As String
    Dim strFileName As String
    
    strFileName = "i:\test.txt"
    
    Open strFileName For Input As #1
    
    Do While Not EOF(1)
        Line Input #1, strTextLine
        strFileText = strFileText & vbCrLf & strTextLine
    Loop
        
    Close 1

End Function

Rusty

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To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar


I need to do what the subject says. The file might possibly be 1000 chars
but more likely fewer. What I would ideally like to do is this:

Dim myText as string
Dim strSourceFile as string
strSourceFile = xxxx
myText = ReadFile( strSourceFile )

And then, once I am done, post said text to a Word bookmark... but that part
is easy.

TIA,
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jul  8 15:50:35 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 16:50:35 -0400 
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F12CDBA39@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

This code will not work because you do not assign the value of strFileText
to the name of the function (which is how you make a function return
something). Also you did not declare the function return type, so it will
default to a Variant. Not that that would prevent the function for working.

Lambert

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rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 4:42 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar


Arthur,
If the file you're reading is just a simple text file, then the following
should work:

Function ImportTextFileIntoVar()

    Dim strTextLine
    Dim strFileText As String
    Dim strFileName As String
    
    strFileName = "i:\test.txt"
    
    Open strFileName For Input As #1
    
    Do While Not EOF(1)
        Line Input #1, strTextLine
        strFileText = strFileText & vbCrLf & strTextLine
    Loop
        
    Close 1

End Function

Rusty

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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar


I need to do what the subject says. The file might possibly be 1000 chars
but more likely fewer. What I would ideally like to do is this:

Dim myText as string
Dim strSourceFile as string
strSourceFile = xxxx
myText = ReadFile( strSourceFile )

And then, once I am done, post said text to a Word bookmark... but that part
is easy.

TIA,
Arthur

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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Fri Jul  8 15:59:25 2005
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:59:25 -0500 
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A154F804F@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

Can't disagree with you there.  I just got in an hurry and focused on the
code to get the file text into a variable.  Should have spent an extra
minute or two on it.  

thanks

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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 3:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar


This code will not work because you do not assign the value of strFileText
to the name of the function (which is how you make a function return
something). Also you did not declare the function return type, so it will
default to a Variant. Not that that would prevent the function for working.

Lambert

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rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 4:42 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar


Arthur,
If the file you're reading is just a simple text file, then the following
should work:

Function ImportTextFileIntoVar()

    Dim strTextLine
    Dim strFileText As String
    Dim strFileName As String
    
    strFileName = "i:\test.txt"
    
    Open strFileName For Input As #1
    
    Do While Not EOF(1)
        Line Input #1, strTextLine
        strFileText = strFileText & vbCrLf & strTextLine
    Loop
        
    Close 1

End Function

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar


I need to do what the subject says. The file might possibly be 1000 chars
but more likely fewer. What I would ideally like to do is this:

Dim myText as string
Dim strSourceFile as string
strSourceFile = xxxx
myText = ReadFile( strSourceFile )

And then, once I am done, post said text to a Word bookmark... but that part
is easy.

TIA,
Arthur

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jul  8 18:46:07 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 09:46:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Read the contents of a file into a memvar
In-Reply-To: <200507081952.j68JqIR16860@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3A4@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <42CF9CDF.22181.459CF9E@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 8 Jul 2005 at 15:52, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> I need to do what the subject says. The file might possibly be 1000 chars
> but more likely fewer. What I would ideally like to do is this:
> 
> Dim myText as string
> Dim strSourceFile as string
> strSourceFile = xxxx
> myText = ReadFile( strSourceFile )
> 
> And then, once I am done, post said text to a Word bookmark... but that part
> is easy.
> 

Function Readfile(SourceFile As String) As String
Dim strBuffer As String

'Make the Buffer the full size of the file
strBuffer = Space$(FileLen(SourceFile))

'Allow for concurrent multi user access
Open SourceFile For Binary Access Read Shared As #1

Get #1, , strBuffer
Close #1
Readfile = strBuffer
End Function

-- 
Stuart




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Jul  9 06:21:19 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 13:21:19 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Putting a Password and Logon name to an HTTP address
Message-ID: <s2cfcf56.077@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

Some hints may be found here:

  http://www.outlookcode.com/d/database.htm 

By the way, Helen's code is sometimes heavily non-internationalised
(read: extremely US specific) which may be what is causing you
problems.

/gustav


>>> artful at rogers.com 07/08 9:45 pm >>>
I am not sure whether to send this to this group or to dba-Tech but
here is
the issue... I was looking at the code supplied by Helen Fedemma for
interfacing Access to Outlook, and on my boxes (two are relevant)
nothing
runs! I want to load her code and then talk to it via Access and I
cannot
make anything work.

Has anyone made her code work successfully...

TIA,
Arthur


From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jul  9 14:35:28 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:35:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access to Word interface
In-Reply-To: <s2cfcf56.077@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200507091935.j69JZTR14051@databaseadvisors.com>

Thanks for the heads-up Gustav!

More specifically, the issue is this. I've got a Word doc (template) that I
populate with a bunch of data extracted from a query. I use bookmarks and
all that works nicely. The doc (dot) also contains two bookmarks which
represent where subtables should appear. (For simplicity think of the query
as bank-customer info and the two tables as deposits and withdrawals. That's
not the actual case but it suffices as an example.)

Because I couldn't make Helen's code run satisfactorily, I have been groping
for alternative solutions. But before painting myself into a corner, I'll
describe the problem itself... and maybe someone has a more elegant
approach.

Query1: delivers a bunch of columns from several related tables in one row.
I use this to populate the bookmarks in the dot/doc.

ST1: (subtable 1) here I need to present the rows returned from a query
(deposits, say, sticking to the aforementioned example).

ST2: (subtable 2) here I need to present the rows returned from a query
(withdrawals, say, again sticking to the aforementioned example).

My original concept was to create both tables in the dot file, having a
header row and nothing else, then dynamically add as many rows as I need.
Let's assume that Query 1 returns 5 rows, and the table has 4 columns. I
don't understand how to fill said table with exactly 5 new rows, planting
each column into its matching table-column.

Since I couldn't figure out how to do that (Helen's code looked promising
but I couldn't get even her examples using Northwind to work), I opted
instead for placing two bookmarks in the dot file and generating a pair of
HTML files, one for each table, then reading the contents of said two files
into memory and plonking their data into the two bookmarks representing
table 1 and table 2.

Perhaps this is a completely asinine way to go about it, but I've never had
to populate a table within a Word doc before, so I'm blindly groping around
for a way that works.

The code that populates the bookmarks is solid. Basically, I create a new
Word document object and then assign values to each bookmark from the
recordset that I open. All this works splendidly. 

But now I come to the two sub-tables. What I'm doing at the moment works but
doesn't result in exquisite layout... and besides, I'm sure there is a way
hipper method of accomplishing the task. During generation of the data, I
write the two sub-tables' queries to a pair of HTM files whose name is
known. Then I open the Word doc, populate the bookmarks and then deal with
the two embedded sub-tables. I use code supplied earlier on this thread to
inhale the two HTM files, then bang their contents into the bookmarks Table1
and Table2. 

It works, sort of. 

What I would much rather do, if possible, is comprehend how to dynamically
expand Table1 to accommodate the X rows that it receives on this call (and
the Y rows it might receive on the next call). And ditto with Table2.

I.e.

Dear <customer given name>,

Here is your bank statement for last month.

Deposits:
Date            Amount


Withdrawals:
Date            Amount

I could create an additional row for each table and leave it blank, then
start populating there and add additional rows as needed. Or each table
could consist only of the header row. Or I could add N rows to each table,
populate them as I go and delete the unrequired rows.

What I don't understand is how to take the N rows returned from Qst 1 and
bang each row's values into table T1, column by column, then next row. I
have the vague feeling that Range may play a role here, but I don't know
where to go with this notion.

So let's ignore Q1 (which just goes into the single bookmarks)... no problem
there. Now let's say Q2 returns 5 rows and Q3 returns 7 rows. How would I go
about populating T1 with the 5 rows returned by Q1?

Before writing this, I have invested some time reading the "help"... alas,
to no avail.

Any advice, guidance or free pain-killers gratefully accepted!

Arthur



From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jul  9 14:45:56 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 15:45:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <s2cfcf56.077@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200507091945.j69JjvR16424@databaseadvisors.com>

I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jul  9 15:40:43 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:40:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <200507091945.j69JjvR16424@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <000401c584c6$7a4db070$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>


Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
Dim ctl as control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub


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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jul  9 15:50:47 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:50:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <000401c584c6$7a4db070$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000601c584c7$e509f300$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Sorry, I missed the part about wanting only specific types of controls.

Function TestCtlType()
Dim ctl As Control
    ctl.ControlType
End Function

Place your click on the .ControlType and hit F1.  Help on ControlType will
come up showing a list fo constants for all control types.  You code will
now look something like:

Sub DumpRowSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub



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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form



Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
Dim ctl as control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jul  9 16:17:47 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 17:17:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <000601c584c7$e509f300$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000701c584cb$a7c43b50$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

BTW, this is exactly how my framework's form class instantiates a class for
each control found on the form.  Using a big case statement I instantiate a
class specific to the control type, then pass in the control to the class
instance, and save a pointer to each control class in a collection in the
form.

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www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


Sorry, I missed the part about wanting only specific types of controls.

Function TestCtlType()
Dim ctl As Control
    ctl.ControlType
End Function

Place your click on the .ControlType and hit F1.  Help on ControlType will
come up showing a list fo constants for all control types.  You code will
now look something like:

Sub DumpRowSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub



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www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form



Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
Dim ctl as control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub


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www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Jul 10 03:52:03 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 10:52:03 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access to Word interface
Message-ID: <s2d0fdef.097@cactus.dk>

Hi Arthur

I don't work much with Word - in fact as little as possible - neither
with Word tables, but this works for me:

Sub AddRows(ByVal lngRowsAdd As Long)

  Dim tbl       As Table
  Dim lngCount  As Long
  Dim lngRow    As Long
  
  Set tbl = ActiveDocument.Tables(1)
  
  lngRow = tbl.Rows.Count
  For lngCount = 1 To lngRowsAdd
    tbl.Rows(lngRow).Range.Rows.Add
  Next
  
  Set tbl = Nothing
  
End Sub

/gustav

>>> artful at rogers.com 07/09 9:35 pm >>>
Thanks for the heads-up Gustav!

More specifically, the issue is this. I've got a Word doc (template)
that I
populate with a bunch of data extracted from a query. I use bookmarks
and
all that works nicely. The doc (dot) also contains two bookmarks which
represent where subtables should appear. (For simplicity think of the
query
as bank-customer info and the two tables as deposits and withdrawals.
That's
not the actual case but it suffices as an example.)

Because I couldn't make Helen's code run satisfactorily, I have been
groping
for alternative solutions. But before painting myself into a corner,
I'll
describe the problem itself... and maybe someone has a more elegant
approach.

Query1: delivers a bunch of columns from several related tables in one
row.
I use this to populate the bookmarks in the dot/doc.

ST1: (subtable 1) here I need to present the rows returned from a
query
(deposits, say, sticking to the aforementioned example).

ST2: (subtable 2) here I need to present the rows returned from a
query
(withdrawals, say, again sticking to the aforementioned example).

My original concept was to create both tables in the dot file, having
a
header row and nothing else, then dynamically add as many rows as I
need.
Let's assume that Query 1 returns 5 rows, and the table has 4 columns.
I
don't understand how to fill said table with exactly 5 new rows,
planting
each column into its matching table-column.

Since I couldn't figure out how to do that (Helen's code looked
promising
but I couldn't get even her examples using Northwind to work), I opted
instead for placing two bookmarks in the dot file and generating a pair
of
HTML files, one for each table, then reading the contents of said two
files
into memory and plonking their data into the two bookmarks
representing
table 1 and table 2.

Perhaps this is a completely asinine way to go about it, but I've never
had
to populate a table within a Word doc before, so I'm blindly groping
around
for a way that works.

The code that populates the bookmarks is solid. Basically, I create a
new
Word document object and then assign values to each bookmark from the
recordset that I open. All this works splendidly. 

But now I come to the two sub-tables. What I'm doing at the moment
works but
doesn't result in exquisite layout... and besides, I'm sure there is a
way
hipper method of accomplishing the task. During generation of the data,
I
write the two sub-tables' queries to a pair of HTM files whose name is
known. Then I open the Word doc, populate the bookmarks and then deal
with
the two embedded sub-tables. I use code supplied earlier on this thread
to
inhale the two HTM files, then bang their contents into the bookmarks
Table1
and Table2. 

It works, sort of. 

What I would much rather do, if possible, is comprehend how to
dynamically
expand Table1 to accommodate the X rows that it receives on this call
(and
the Y rows it might receive on the next call). And ditto with Table2.

I.e.

Dear <customer given name>,

Here is your bank statement for last month.

Deposits:
Date            Amount


Withdrawals:
Date            Amount

I could create an additional row for each table and leave it blank,
then
start populating there and add additional rows as needed. Or each
table
could consist only of the header row. Or I could add N rows to each
table,
populate them as I go and delete the unrequired rows.

What I don't understand is how to take the N rows returned from Qst 1
and
bang each row's values into table T1, column by column, then next row.
I
have the vague feeling that Range may play a role here, but I don't
know
where to go with this notion.

So let's ignore Q1 (which just goes into the single bookmarks)... no
problem
there. Now let's say Q2 returns 5 rows and Q3 returns 7 rows. How would
I go
about populating T1 with the 5 rows returned by Q1?

Before writing this, I have invested some time reading the "help"...
alas,
to no avail.

Any advice, guidance or free pain-killers gratefully accepted!

Arthur



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jul 10 07:07:16 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 08:07:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access developer workbench
Message-ID: <002201c58547$ee7f2790$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I just found the following utility which I have NOT tried yet but I thought
looked interesting, particularly for you developers managing multiple
applications and Access versions.

Main Feature List  >>>  The software will 

* show you the computer and Access user name of all connections to a
database. More..
* allow you to compact/repair or backup a database as soon as everyone logs
off.
* open the correct version of Access for you. More..
* let you keep a list of favorites along with the Access version that you
want to open it, the relevant workgroup file and the minimum size to
schedule a compaction. More..
* let you send messages to users and shutdown the database. More..
* allow you to compile for increased performance and decompile a database to
remove compilation junk. More..
* allow you to setup reminders relevant to your database.


http://www.vb123.com/workbench/

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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jul 10 09:07:46 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 10:07:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <000701c584cb$a7c43b50$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <200507101407.j6AE7pR22822@databaseadvisors.com>

I'm still doing something wrong, clearly. It doesn't seem to like the
declaration (perhaps because in the outer function I'm dimming frm as an
object not a form?)

'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
' Procedure : ListFormDataSources
' DateTime  : 31/05/2005 09:37
' Author    : Arthur Fuller
' Purpose   : list all the data sources from the forms in the current
database
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
'
Sub ListFormDataSources()

 Dim frm As AccessObject   ' changing this to object or form doesn't work
 Dim db As CurrentProject
    Dim i As Integer
    On Error GoTo ListFormDataSources_Error

    Set db = CurrentProject

    Application.Echo False

    'Check form recordsource
    For Each frm In db.AllForms
        DoCmd.OpenForm frm.Name, acDesign
        If Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource <> "" Then
            Debug.Print i, frm.Name & ": "
            Debug.Print Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource
        End If
        ListRowDataSources (frm)
        DoCmd.Close acForm, frm.Name
        i = i + 1
    Next frm

    Application.Echo True

    Set frm = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing

    On Error GoTo 0
    Exit Sub

ListFormDataSources_Error:

    MsgBox "Error " & Err.Number & " (" & Err.Description & ") in procedure
ListFormDataSources of Module aa_Listers"

 End Sub


'and then your code...

Sub ListRowDataSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls    
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub

Arthur

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: July 9, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form

BTW, this is exactly how my framework's form class instantiates a class for
each control found on the form.  Using a big case statement I instantiate a
class specific to the control type, then pass in the control to the class
instance, and save a pointer to each control class in a collection in the
form.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


Sorry, I missed the part about wanting only specific types of controls.

Function TestCtlType()
Dim ctl As Control
    ctl.ControlType
End Function

Place your click on the .ControlType and hit F1.  Help on ControlType will
come up showing a list fo constants for all control types.  You code will
now look something like:

Sub DumpRowSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub



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www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form



Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
Dim ctl as control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur

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From artful at rogers.com  Sun Jul 10 12:11:03 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 13:11:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Opening a log and keeping it open (cross-posted to
	dba-sql)
In-Reply-To: <200507101407.j6AE7pR22822@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200507101711.j6AHB6R30338@databaseadvisors.com>

I've got a procedure called ExecuteCommand (which perhaps ought to have been
named ExecuteSQLCommand, but anyway). It encapsulates a bunch of stuff like
the current project connection and such, and contains debug code that prints
the SQL it is attempting to execute, and also an error handler that reports
"Problem executing " + the SQL code it received.

This is all very nice and works splendidly. However, the debug window has
decided limitations, so I've been thinking that I should write all this
information to a sort of transaction log. Basically, take what I now print
to the debug window and re-direct it to an ASCII file of a known name, etc. 

I have worked with reading and writing ASCII text files so I'm not a
complete na?f in this regard, but I do have a question. Suppose that I
revise the code such that the first time ExcuteCommand is called it opens
the file, creating it if necessary, and leaves it open. Every subsequent
visit to Execute Command finds the file open and simply appends its SQL
statement, just as it would to the debug window... but with the advantage
that I could have several hours' worth of statements recorded to the file,
rather than merely the last N lines of the debug buffer.

1. Would the app suffer in terms of performance if I did this?
2. Assuming that I opened the file in the usual way (as #1 or whatever), and
assuming that somewhere in the app I also open another text file, should I
protect myself by opening it as #98765 or somesuch, so that if you drop said
module into one of your apps, it would be guaranteed to work even if your
app opens a dozen other text files at various points?
3. Presumably the code would also need a "close the file" chunk, but in the
ideal world I wouldn't want you to have to code any special thing into your
"close app" procedure. So perhaps this might be better dealt with as a
class? But I seem to recall from Shamil's writing on classes that there is
an issue regarding the proper termination and garbage disposal of a class.

Any suggestions, anyone?
Arthur



From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Sun Jul 10 13:31:00 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:31:00 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access developer workbench
Message-ID: <1a227ac00c254eb6a37076ee063bc3c4@christopherhawkins.com>

Interesting.? The author appears to have taken the best Access utilities scattered around the web an re-written them into an integrated package.

That's almost cool enough to make me wish I still did a lot of Access work.? Almost.? ;)?

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 6:08 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Access developer workbench 

I just found the following utility which I have NOT tried yet but I thought
looked interesting, particularly for you developers managing multiple
applications and Access versions.

Main Feature List >>> The software will 

* show you the computer and Access user name of all connections to a
database. More..
* allow you to compact/repair or backup a database as soon as everyone logs
off.
* open the correct version of Access for you. More..
* let you keep a list of favorites along with the Access version that you
want to open it, the relevant workgroup file and the minimum size to
schedule a compaction. More..
* let you send messages to users and shutdown the database. More..
* allow you to compile for increased performance and decompile a database to
remove compilation junk. More..
* allow you to setup reminders relevant to your database.

http://www.vb123.com/workbench/

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jul 10 14:24:46 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:24:46 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: [dba-SQLServer] Opening a log and keeping it open
	(cross-posted to dba-sql)
In-Reply-To: <200507101711.j6AHB6R30337@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200507101407.j6AE7pR22822@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <42D2029E.4819.DB72EEA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Jul 2005 at 13:11, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Suppose that I
> revise the code such that the first time ExcuteCommand is called it opens
> the file, creating it if necessary, and leaves it open. Every subsequent
> visit to Execute Command finds the file open and simply appends its SQL
> statement, just as it would to the debug window... but with the advantage
> that I could have several hours' worth of statements recorded to the file,
> rather than merely the last N lines of the debug buffer.

The problem with leaving the file open is that the OS is likely to keep a 
lock on it if your app crashes. Keeping it open may also prevent you from 
accessing the log info while your app is running.   Depending on how 
frequently you will be logging,  try opening the file, appending the log 
entry and then closing it again.

Although slightly slower,  it is much safer.

> 
> 1. Would the app suffer in terms of performance if I did this?

Writing out to  a text file is pretty fast.  It all depends on how often 
you are expecting ExecuteCommand to Execute.  I wouldn't expect any 
noticable performance drop in normal circumstances.

> 2. Assuming that I opened the file in the usual way (as #1 or whatever), and
> assuming that somewhere in the app I also open another text file, should I
> protect myself by opening it as #98765 or somesuch, 

You have to use file numbers in the range 1?255, inclusive for files not 
accessible to other applications or file numbers in the range 256?511 for 
files accessible from other applications.

> so that if you drop said
> module into one of your apps, it would be guaranteed to work even if your
> app opens a dozen other text files at various points?

Use FreeFile or FreeFile(0) to get the next available handle in the range 1 
- 255 or FreeFile(1) to get the next available handle in the range 256 - 
a511. 

> 3. Presumably the code would also need a "close the file" chunk, but in the
> ideal world I wouldn't want you to have to code any special thing into your
> "close app" procedure. So perhaps this might be better dealt with as a
> class? But I seem to recall from Shamil's writing on classes that there is
> an issue regarding the proper termination and garbage disposal of a class.
> 
> Any suggestions, anyone?

Here's a simple shell for the above ideas without an error handling

Function Log(strLogInfo as String)

Dim intLogFileNunber as Integer
Dim strLogFile as String
strLogFile = "Logfile.txt"

intLogFileNumber = Freefile
Open strLogFile For Append As #intLogFileNumber
Print#1, strLogInfo
Close $intLogFileNumber

End Function


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jul 10 14:31:05 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 15:31:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <200507101407.j6AE7pR22822@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <003801c58585$ea5cc4e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yes, you cannot pass an object in as a form

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 10:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I'm still doing something wrong, clearly. It doesn't seem to like the
declaration (perhaps because in the outer function I'm dimming frm as an
object not a form?)

'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
' Procedure : ListFormDataSources
' DateTime  : 31/05/2005 09:37
' Author    : Arthur Fuller
' Purpose   : list all the data sources from the forms in the current
database
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
'
Sub ListFormDataSources()

 Dim frm As AccessObject   ' changing this to object or form doesn't work
 Dim db As CurrentProject
    Dim i As Integer
    On Error GoTo ListFormDataSources_Error

    Set db = CurrentProject

    Application.Echo False

    'Check form recordsource
    For Each frm In db.AllForms
        DoCmd.OpenForm frm.Name, acDesign
        If Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource <> "" Then
            Debug.Print i, frm.Name & ": "
            Debug.Print Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource
        End If
        ListRowDataSources (frm)
        DoCmd.Close acForm, frm.Name
        i = i + 1
    Next frm

    Application.Echo True

    Set frm = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing

    On Error GoTo 0
    Exit Sub

ListFormDataSources_Error:

    MsgBox "Error " & Err.Number & " (" & Err.Description & ") in procedure
ListFormDataSources of Module aa_Listers"

 End Sub


'and then your code...

Sub ListRowDataSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls    
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub

Arthur

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: July 9, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form

BTW, this is exactly how my framework's form class instantiates a class for
each control found on the form.  Using a big case statement I instantiate a
class specific to the control type, then pass in the control to the class
instance, and save a pointer to each control class in a collection in the
form.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


Sorry, I missed the part about wanting only specific types of controls.

Function TestCtlType()
Dim ctl As Control
    ctl.ControlType
End Function

Place your click on the .ControlType and hit F1.  Help on ControlType will
come up showing a list fo constants for all control types.  You code will
now look something like:

Sub DumpRowSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form



Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
Dim ctl as control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur

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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Sun Jul 10 15:08:18 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 14:08:18 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who wins?
Message-ID: <a78ce5495c2148f7a0e1e9e826bbd3e5@christopherhawkins.com>

This message should be a fun one, as there is a technical issue and a business issue.? Feel free to comment on whichever one you want.? ;)

First, the technical:

This is related to my recent inquiry into whether or not there is a way to capture the write conflict error when it happens.? I noticed that the client with the home-brewed Access app had their DB-level Default Record Locking set to No Locks.? I'm talking about the option you find at Tools > Options > Advanced > Default Record Locking.? So, I went ahead and set that to Edited Record.

However, as I've mentioned before, the actual forms are all set to No Locks.? The first thing I tried was changing all these forms to Edited Record, but there is a bunch of creaky state-management code that causes errors to be thrown when this setting is in place.

I'm testing the system, but to be frank I've never been able to duplicate the write conflict, although my client's employees seem to do it all the time.? Sadly, they can't do it in my presence or tell me the exact steps to reproduce.? They do manage to send me the screenshots, though.? ;)? I really want to get these folks squared away, but they just can't communicate to me what they're doing, so I've got ot figure it out on my own.

Here is what I am curious about:? in a case where the DB-level settings specify Edited Record locks and the forms themselves specify No Locks, which setting wins?? I've been poring over support.microsoft.com but have found no answers to this question so far.

Now, the business question:

As you may or may not know,?my?business?specializes in remediation work - that is to say, most of my clients come to me with projects in-crisis because they tried to go the do-it-yourself route, or because they tried to pinch pennies by hiring some amateur, and they've ended up with poorly-working or even outright broken systems.? Most of the time, I manage to get the systems in workable shape.? Of course, there is only so much you can do with a badly-written codebase once it gets to a certain level of depth, but over the years I have developed a pretty good track record of bringing out the good in bad systems.

Here is an interesting twist - the client with the Access db in the technical example above wants me to offer a warranty on the whole application.? Bear in mind that I did not write this application - I am only fixing specific problems and adding a few features.? I always warrant my own work when it is ground-up, but how can one possibly give a warranty on a codebase that is 85% written by someone else?? In particular, we're taliking about a deep and poorly-written codebase;?since I'm positioned as an expert on rescuing at-risk projects, nobody comes to me when their projects are going well? ;).? 

Even with decent testing (that most clients are reluctant to pay for, ironically), I find it is?diffucult to predict?when real-world usage will cause some rarely-used subroutine to rise from the depths and do something that breaks my sparkly, new, well-designed code.? I notice that this expectation is becoming more and more frequent, and I am of the opinion that it is just not reasonable.? Of course, at the same time I want to be as useful as possible to my clients.? I am highly empathetic to the fact that people who lack a foundation in software cratsmanship/engineering?probably don't understand that hiring your 19-year old nephew who "knows computers" to build an?enterprise ERP system for $15/hour is 99% guaranteed to be a disaster.? 

Is anyone else struggling with the issue of being expected to offer a warranty on the entirety of?an existing codebase once you've made a few changes to it?? If so, how are you handling it?

-C-

 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jul 10 15:24:46 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 06:24:46 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who
	wins?
In-Reply-To: <a78ce5495c2148f7a0e1e9e826bbd3e5@christopherhawkins.com>
	charset=iso-8859-1
Message-ID: <42D210AE.22730.DEE174F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Jul 2005 at 14:08, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> First, the technical:
> 
> Tools > Options > Advanced > Default Record Locking.? So, I went ahead and set that to Edited
> 
......
> Here is what I am curious about:? in a case where the DB-level settings specify Edited Record
> locks and the forms themselves specify No Locks, which setting wins?? I've been poring over
> support.microsoft.com but have found no answers to this question so far.

Note the word "Default" under Tools-Options.... it's just that - a default 
so that you don't have to set it  on every object if you generally want the 
same setting.  The actual setting on an object will override this. What you 
specify on the Form is what you get.



-- 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Jul 10 15:28:58 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 06:28:58 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who
	wins?
In-Reply-To: <a78ce5495c2148f7a0e1e9e826bbd3e5@christopherhawkins.com>
	charset=iso-8859-1
Message-ID: <42D211AA.12818.DF1F0C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Jul 2005 at 14:08, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> Is anyone else struggling with the issue of being expected to offer a warranty on the entirety
> of?an existing codebase once you've made a few changes to it?? If so, how are you handling it?

As JC said a couple of weaks ago when I said that I was remediating a 
similar system:  "And of course the last developer to touch the db is
responsible for ALL problems."

No way do you warrant anything unless you built it yourself. That way lies 
ruin.

-- 
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Sun Jul 10 15:51:36 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 13:51:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <1a227ac00c254eb6a37076ee063bc3c4@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKMEJPDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Hello to the list,

I want to change the Caption property of a report from a form via code.
Can anyone help me?

thanks,,

bob





From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sun Jul 10 16:26:51 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:26:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <24778749.1121028183485.JavaMail.root@sniper21>
Message-ID: <000001c58596$18aff320$0300a8c0@danwaters>

Bob,

Programmatically, you'll need to open the report in Design mode, then change
the caption, then close and save the report.  

I suspect this will only work if your database is an .mdb.

Dan Waters

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heygood
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 3:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code

Hello to the list,

I want to change the Caption property of a report from a form via code.
Can anyone help me?

thanks,,

bob



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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Sun Jul 10 22:01:26 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:01:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who
	wins?
Message-ID: <1a121a6f40a0412b85336fd0069ba425@christopherhawkins.com>

"The actual setting on an object will override this. What you specify on the Form is what you get."

I had a feeling.? ;)

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who wins? 

On 10 Jul 2005 at 14:08, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> First, the technical:
> 
> Tools > Options > Advanced > Default Record Locking.? So, I went ahead and set that to Edited
> 
......
> Here is what I am curious about:? in a case where the DB-level settings specify Edited Record
> locks and the forms themselves specify No Locks, which setting wins?? I've been poring over
> support.microsoft.com but have found no answers to this question so far.

Note the word "Default" under Tools-Options.... it's just that - a default 
so that you don't have to set it on every object if you generally want the 
same setting. The actual setting on an object will override this. What you 
specify on the Form is what you get.

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From clh at christopherhawkins.com  Sun Jul 10 22:01:43 2005
From: clh at christopherhawkins.com (Christopher Hawkins)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:01:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who
	wins?
Message-ID: <743f743200314db39d203a3176af62f8@christopherhawkins.com>

That's what I'm thinking.

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who wins? 

On 10 Jul 2005 at 14:08, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> Is anyone else struggling with the issue of being expected to offer a warranty on the entirety
> of?an existing codebase once you've made a few changes to it?? If so, how are you handling it?

As JC said a couple of weaks ago when I said that I was remediating a 
similar system: "And of course the last developer to touch the db is
responsible for ALL problems."

No way do you warrant anything unless you built it yourself. That way lies 
ruin.

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From john at winhaven.net  Sun Jul 10 23:03:49 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 23:03:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKMEJPDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <200507110404.j6B43sj5081082@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Bob,
Some basic code below for doing this.

Private Sub cmdCaptionTest_Click()
    DoCmd.OpenReport "rptCaptionTest", acPreview
    Application.Reports.rptCaptionTest.Caption = "TestCaptionSimple"
    Exit Sub
End Sub

This is A97 so it should work in newer versions although I haven't tested
it.

HTH
John B.

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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 3:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code

Hello to the list,

I want to change the Caption property of a report from a form via code.
Can anyone help me?

thanks,,

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Jul 10 23:57:41 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:57:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access developer workbench
References: <1a227ac00c254eb6a37076ee063bc3c4@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <042f01c585d5$11bdd930$6701a8c0@HAL9004>

Didn't see a price on that.  Do you know?

Rocky

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From: "Christopher Hawkins" <clh at christopherhawkins.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 11:31 AM
Subject: re: [AccessD] Access developer workbench


Interesting. The author appears to have taken the best Access utilities 
scattered around the web an re-written them into an integrated package.

That's almost cool enough to make me wish I still did a lot of Access work. 
Almost. ;)

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 6:08 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Access developer workbench

I just found the following utility which I have NOT tried yet but I thought
looked interesting, particularly for you developers managing multiple
applications and Access versions.

Main Feature List >>> The software will

* show you the computer and Access user name of all connections to a
database. More..
* allow you to compact/repair or backup a database as soon as everyone logs
off.
* open the correct version of Access for you. More..
* let you keep a list of favorites along with the Access version that you
want to open it, the relevant workgroup file and the minimum size to
schedule a compaction. More..
* let you send messages to users and shutdown the database. More..
* allow you to compile for increased performance and decompile a database to
remove compilation junk. More..
* allow you to setup reminders relevant to your database.

http://www.vb123.com/workbench/

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Jul 11 01:49:45 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:49:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access developer workbench
In-Reply-To: <042f01c585d5$11bdd930$6701a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42D2A329.158.102A4779@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 10 Jul 2005 at 21:57, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access S wrote:

> Didn't see a price on that.  Do you know?
> 

On their on-line order page - USD89.95  

But Darren, Bruce, Connie etc can probably get it in AUD since they are a Sydney based company :-)



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Jul 11 06:23:39 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:23:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - whowins?
In-Reply-To: <1a121a6f40a0412b85336fd0069ba425@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c5860b$00a765e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Default usually means that as you start to desing an object, that is what
that property will start as.  If you change it during design, then it ends
up different.

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 11:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock -
whowins?


"The actual setting on an object will override this. What you specify on the
Form is what you get."

I had a feeling.? ;)

-C-

----------------------------------------
 From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who
wins? 

On 10 Jul 2005 at 14:08, Christopher Hawkins wrote:

> First, the technical:
> 
> Tools > Options > Advanced > Default Record Locking.? So, I went ahead 
> and set that to Edited
> 
......
> Here is what I am curious about:? in a case where the DB-level 
> settings specify Edited Record locks and the forms themselves specify 
> No Locks, which setting wins?? I've been poring over 
> support.microsoft.com but have found no answers to this question so 
> far.

Note the word "Default" under Tools-Options.... it's just that - a default 
so that you don't have to set it on every object if you generally want the 
same setting. The actual setting on an object will override this. What you 
specify on the Form is what you get.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 11 10:27:29 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:27:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <003801c58585$ea5cc4e0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IJG001AMYXQYD@l-daemon>

...but this would work.

Dim frm as Form

Jim

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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 12:31 PM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form

Yes, you cannot pass an object in as a form

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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 10:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I'm still doing something wrong, clearly. It doesn't seem to like the
declaration (perhaps because in the outer function I'm dimming frm as an
object not a form?)

'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
' Procedure : ListFormDataSources
' DateTime  : 31/05/2005 09:37
' Author    : Arthur Fuller
' Purpose   : list all the data sources from the forms in the current
database
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
'
Sub ListFormDataSources()

 Dim frm As AccessObject   ' changing this to object or form doesn't work
 Dim db As CurrentProject
    Dim i As Integer
    On Error GoTo ListFormDataSources_Error

    Set db = CurrentProject

    Application.Echo False

    'Check form recordsource
    For Each frm In db.AllForms
        DoCmd.OpenForm frm.Name, acDesign
        If Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource <> "" Then
            Debug.Print i, frm.Name & ": "
            Debug.Print Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource
        End If
        ListRowDataSources (frm)
        DoCmd.Close acForm, frm.Name
        i = i + 1
    Next frm

    Application.Echo True

    Set frm = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing

    On Error GoTo 0
    Exit Sub

ListFormDataSources_Error:

    MsgBox "Error " & Err.Number & " (" & Err.Description & ") in procedure
ListFormDataSources of Module aa_Listers"

 End Sub


'and then your code...

Sub ListRowDataSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls    
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub

Arthur

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Sent: July 9, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form

BTW, this is exactly how my framework's form class instantiates a class for
each control found on the form.  Using a big case statement I instantiate a
class specific to the control type, then pass in the control to the class
instance, and save a pointer to each control class in a collection in the
form.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


Sorry, I missed the part about wanting only specific types of controls.

Function TestCtlType()
Dim ctl As Control
    ctl.ControlType
End Function

Place your click on the .ControlType and hit F1.  Help on ControlType will
come up showing a list fo constants for all control types.  You code will
now look something like:

Sub DumpRowSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub



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Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form



Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
Dim ctl as control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Jul 11 10:38:11 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:38:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <0IJG001AMYXQYD@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000301c5862e$8b7d4ef0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

We need to see the code that calls this function and where it resides.  If
it is being called from the form itself, then there is no need to dim
anything, just call the function passing in "me".

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:27 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


...but this would work.

Dim frm as Form

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 12:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form

Yes, you cannot pass an object in as a form

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 10:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I'm still doing something wrong, clearly. It doesn't seem to like the
declaration (perhaps because in the outer function I'm dimming frm as an
object not a form?)

'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
' Procedure : ListFormDataSources
' DateTime  : 31/05/2005 09:37
' Author    : Arthur Fuller
' Purpose   : list all the data sources from the forms in the current
database
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
'
Sub ListFormDataSources()

 Dim frm As AccessObject   ' changing this to object or form doesn't work
 Dim db As CurrentProject
    Dim i As Integer
    On Error GoTo ListFormDataSources_Error

    Set db = CurrentProject

    Application.Echo False

    'Check form recordsource
    For Each frm In db.AllForms
        DoCmd.OpenForm frm.Name, acDesign
        If Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource <> "" Then
            Debug.Print i, frm.Name & ": "
            Debug.Print Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource
        End If
        ListRowDataSources (frm)
        DoCmd.Close acForm, frm.Name
        i = i + 1
    Next frm

    Application.Echo True

    Set frm = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing

    On Error GoTo 0
    Exit Sub

ListFormDataSources_Error:

    MsgBox "Error " & Err.Number & " (" & Err.Description & ") in procedure
ListFormDataSources of Module aa_Listers"

 End Sub


'and then your code...

Sub ListRowDataSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls    
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub

Arthur

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: July 9, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form

BTW, this is exactly how my framework's form class instantiates a class for
each control found on the form.  Using a big case statement I instantiate a
class specific to the control type, then pass in the control to the class
instance, and save a pointer to each control class in a collection in the
form.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:51 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


Sorry, I missed the part about wanting only specific types of controls.

Function TestCtlType()
Dim ctl As Control
    ctl.ControlType
End Function

Place your click on the .ControlType and hit F1.  Help on ControlType will
come up showing a list fo constants for all control types.  You code will
now look something like:

Sub DumpRowSources(f As Form)
Dim ctl As Control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
End Sub



John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form



Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
Dim ctl as control
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub


John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form


I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
expect it to compile!

Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
   'over all others
   Debug.print f.name
   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
      End If
   Next
End Sub

TIA!
Arthur

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 11 10:50:50 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:50:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who
	wins?
In-Reply-To: <a78ce5495c2148f7a0e1e9e826bbd3e5@christopherhawkins.com>
Message-ID: <0IJH00J0M00P9E@l-daemon>

Hi Christopher:

I have run into similar issues in the past. It was with a number of clients
so I started applying a month charge and described that charge as an
insurance policy. It did not guarantee that there would not be an error just
those errors would be fixed at a flat fee. Sometimes issues came up and I
ended up working for $10.00 an hour but when the yearly rate was tallied up
it was always more than profitable.

The clients liked it as there were no surprises. When they wanted a major
upgrade or new module that fell into the category of special projects and
they were billed separately. 

You can also set up a system where you slowly upgrade the whole project
drawing from a banked pool of money that the client and you have set up.
Working for a number of government agencies here, there is a policy that any
amounts tended or required for a specific project over ten thousand dollars
must go to bid, under that amount there no such constraints. The worked
capital pool would be replenished as long as the project portion was marked
as completed. This method worked for years.

Those are a few creative accounting ideas that you may find interesting.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Christopher
Hawkins
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 1:08 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] DB-level Edited Record vs. Form-level No Lock - who wins?

This message should be a fun one, as there is a technical issue and a
business issue.? Feel free to comment on whichever one you want.? ;)

First, the technical:

This is related to my recent inquiry into whether or not there is a way to
capture the write conflict error when it happens.? I noticed that the client
with the home-brewed Access app had their DB-level Default Record Locking
set to No Locks.? I'm talking about the option you find at Tools > Options >
Advanced > Default Record Locking.? So, I went ahead and set that to Edited
Record.

However, as I've mentioned before, the actual forms are all set to No
Locks.? The first thing I tried was changing all these forms to Edited
Record, but there is a bunch of creaky state-management code that causes
errors to be thrown when this setting is in place.

I'm testing the system, but to be frank I've never been able to duplicate
the write conflict, although my client's employees seem to do it all the
time.? Sadly, they can't do it in my presence or tell me the exact steps to
reproduce.? They do manage to send me the screenshots, though.? ;)? I really
want to get these folks squared away, but they just can't communicate to me
what they're doing, so I've got ot figure it out on my own.

Here is what I am curious about:? in a case where the DB-level settings
specify Edited Record locks and the forms themselves specify No Locks, which
setting wins?? I've been poring over support.microsoft.com but have found no
answers to this question so far.

Now, the business question:

As you may or may not know,?my?business?specializes in remediation work -
that is to say, most of my clients come to me with projects in-crisis
because they tried to go the do-it-yourself route, or because they tried to
pinch pennies by hiring some amateur, and they've ended up with
poorly-working or even outright broken systems.? Most of the time, I manage
to get the systems in workable shape.? Of course, there is only so much you
can do with a badly-written codebase once it gets to a certain level of
depth, but over the years I have developed a pretty good track record of
bringing out the good in bad systems.

Here is an interesting twist - the client with the Access db in the
technical example above wants me to offer a warranty on the whole
application.? Bear in mind that I did not write this application - I am only
fixing specific problems and adding a few features.? I always warrant my own
work when it is ground-up, but how can one possibly give a warranty on a
codebase that is 85% written by someone else?? In particular, we're taliking
about a deep and poorly-written codebase;?since I'm positioned as an expert
on rescuing at-risk projects, nobody comes to me when their projects are
going well? ;).? 

Even with decent testing (that most clients are reluctant to pay for,
ironically), I find it is?diffucult to predict?when real-world usage will
cause some rarely-used subroutine to rise from the depths and do something
that breaks my sparkly, new, well-designed code.? I notice that this
expectation is becoming more and more frequent, and I am of the opinion that
it is just not reasonable.? Of course, at the same time I want to be as
useful as possible to my clients.? I am highly empathetic to the fact that
people who lack a foundation in software cratsmanship/engineering?probably
don't understand that hiring your 19-year old nephew who "knows computers"
to build an?enterprise ERP system for $15/hour is 99% guaranteed to be a
disaster.? 

Is anyone else struggling with the issue of being expected to offer a
warranty on the entirety of?an existing codebase once you've made a few
changes to it?? If so, how are you handling it?

-C-

 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 11 11:43:53 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:43:53 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
References: <0IJG001AMYXQYD@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <42D2A1C9.1080909@shaw.ca>

This works just pass form name and set form in subroutine

Sub ListRowDataSources(fname As String)
Dim ctl As Control
Dim f As Form
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Set f = Forms(fname)
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
set f=nothing
set ctl=nothing
End Sub

Jim Lawrence wrote:

>...but this would work.
>
>Dim frm as Form
>
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
>Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 12:31 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
>
>Yes, you cannot pass an object in as a form
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
>Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 10:08 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
>
>
>I'm still doing something wrong, clearly. It doesn't seem to like the
>declaration (perhaps because in the outer function I'm dimming frm as an
>object not a form?)
>
>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>------------
>' Procedure : ListFormDataSources
>' DateTime  : 31/05/2005 09:37
>' Author    : Arthur Fuller
>' Purpose   : list all the data sources from the forms in the current
>database
>'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>------------
>'
>Sub ListFormDataSources()
>
> Dim frm As AccessObject   ' changing this to object or form doesn't work
> Dim db As CurrentProject
>    Dim i As Integer
>    On Error GoTo ListFormDataSources_Error
>
>    Set db = CurrentProject
>
>    Application.Echo False
>
>    'Check form recordsource
>    For Each frm In db.AllForms
>        DoCmd.OpenForm frm.Name, acDesign
>        If Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource <> "" Then
>            Debug.Print i, frm.Name & ": "
>            Debug.Print Forms(frm.Name).RecordSource
>        End If
>        ListRowDataSources (frm)
>        DoCmd.Close acForm, frm.Name
>        i = i + 1
>    Next frm
>
>    Application.Echo True
>
>    Set frm = Nothing
>    Set db = Nothing
>
>    On Error GoTo 0
>    Exit Sub
>
>ListFormDataSources_Error:
>
>    MsgBox "Error " & Err.Number & " (" & Err.Description & ") in procedure
>ListFormDataSources of Module aa_Listers"
>
> End Sub
>
>
>'and then your code...
>
>Sub ListRowDataSources(f As Form)
>Dim ctl As Control
>   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
>   'I want to walk the controls
>   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
>   'over all others
>   Debug.Print f.Name
>   For Each ctl In f.Controls    
>      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
>      Select Case ctl.ControlType
>      Case acComboBox, acListBox
>         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
>      Case Else
>      End Select
>   Next
>End Sub
>
>Arthur
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
>Sent: July 9, 2005 5:18 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
>
>BTW, this is exactly how my framework's form class instantiates a class for
>each control found on the form.  Using a big case statement I instantiate a
>class specific to the control type, then pass in the control to the class
>instance, and save a pointer to each control class in a collection in the
>form.
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
>Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:51 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
>
>
>Sorry, I missed the part about wanting only specific types of controls.
>
>Function TestCtlType()
>Dim ctl As Control
>    ctl.ControlType
>End Function
>
>Place your click on the .ControlType and hit F1.  Help on ControlType will
>come up showing a list fo constants for all control types.  You code will
>now look something like:
>
>Sub DumpRowSources(f As Form)
>Dim ctl As Control
>   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
>   'I want to walk the controls
>   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
>   'over all others
>   Debug.Print f.Name
>   For Each ctl In f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
>      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
>      Select Case ctl.ControlType
>      Case acComboBox, acListBox
>         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
>      Case Else
>      End Select
>   Next
>End Sub
>
>
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
>Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 4:41 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
>
>
>
>Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
>Dim ctl as control
>   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
>   'I want to walk the controls
>   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
>   'over all others
>   Debug.print f.name
>   For Each ctl in f.Controls     '<--- this is the important part
>      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
>         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
>      End If
>   Next
>End Sub
>
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
>Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 3:46 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
>
>
>I think I have asked this previously, but if I received an answer then I
>misplaced it. Here is exactly what I need.... This is pseudo-code. Don't
>expect it to compile!
>
>Sub DumpRowSources ( f as Form )
>   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
>   'I want to walk the controls
>   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip 
>   'over all others
>   Debug.print f.name
>   For Each ctl in f.ControlsCollection     '<--- this is the important part
>      If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
>         Debug.print ctl.Name & ":"
>         Debug.print ctl.RowSource
>      End If
>   Next
>End Sub
>
>TIA!
>Arthur
>
>  
>

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Mon Jul 11 18:42:07 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:42:07 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration
References: <s2c580b5.030@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <00d801c58672$27389320$6601a8c0@user>

Absolutely incredible - when do they say it will it will be finished Gustav?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:42 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration


  Hi John

  Many ways to look at this.

  Notice the pictures of the interior. No window is rectangular.

  /gustav

  >>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 07/01 5:27 pm >>>
  Is it a windmill by any chance?  Cool looking structure.

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From artful at rogers.com  Mon Jul 11 19:32:55 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:32:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form
In-Reply-To: <42D2A1C9.1080909@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200507120032.j6C0WvR07017@databaseadvisors.com>

Works a treat. Thanks much!

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: July 11, 2005 12:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Walk the controls on a given form

This works just pass form name and set form in subroutine

Sub ListRowDataSources(fname As String)
Dim ctl As Control
Dim f As Form
   'assume the form has already been opened by the calling process
   'I want to walk the controls
   'the only controls of interest are combos or listboxes so I can skip
   'over all others
   Set f = Forms(fname)
   Debug.Print f.Name
   For Each ctl In f.Controls
      'If the control is either a listbox or combo-box
      Select Case ctl.ControlType
      Case acComboBox, acListBox
         Debug.Print ctl.Name & ":" & ctl.RowSource
      Case Else
      End Select
   Next
set f=nothing
set ctl=nothing
End Sub




From kathryn at bassett.net  Mon Jul 11 22:39:34 2005
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:39:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Zip code format
Message-ID: <20050712033939.004D540722@omta18.mta.everyone.net>

In my table (members), I have a text field called Zip. The input mask is 00000\-9999;;_

Some people I have the 5 digit code, and others the zip+4, so this works. When I look at a query, a person's zip will show up as 91502- or 91006-2046 as I expect. However, when I make the mailing labels, I get 910062046 instead of 91006-2046. The 91502- does correctly show as 91502 without the dash.

In the table field definition, there is a space for "format" but if I put the same 00000\-9999;;_ I still get same result. There is no "predefined format" in the drop down box.

What do I do? This is a flat database with only 28 records, so I've got some play leeway.

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul 11 22:56:05 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 23:56:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Zip code format
In-Reply-To: <20050712033939.004D540722@omta18.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <20050712035606.OWPC18668.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Kathryn, there's no built-in way to handle this -- you have a couple of
options. 

Store the - in the table with the data by changing the format code to
00000\-9999;0; -- that last 0 stores formatting with the data. 

Then, you can base the report on a query and use the following expression to
get rid of the -

FormattedZIP: Iif(Len(ZIPCODE) = 6, Left(ZIPCODE,5), ZIPCODE)

If you don't want to store the - in the data, then you'll need an expression
that handles putting it in instead of taking it out. I don't have that off
the top of my head -- but I could come up with it. 

This really shouldn't be so hard -- maybe someone has a simpler solution. 

My solution has to always just omit the last four digits -- I don't know any
po that actually requires them. :) Am I wrong on that? Maybe you need them
if you're using bulk mail or something. 

Susan H. 

In my table (members), I have a text field called Zip. The input mask is
00000\-9999;;_

Some people I have the 5 digit code, and others the zip+4, so this works.
When I look at a query, a person's zip will show up as 91502- or 91006-2046
as I expect. However, when I make the mailing labels, I get 910062046
instead of 91006-2046. The 91502- does correctly show as 91502 without the
dash.

In the table field definition, there is a space for "format" but if I put
the same _ I still get same result. There is no "predefined format" in the
drop down box.

What do I do? This is a flat database with only 28 records, so I've got some
play leeway.

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From kathryn at bassett.net  Mon Jul 11 23:43:17 2005
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 21:43:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Zip code format
In-Reply-To: <20050712035606.OWPC18668.ibm62aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <20050712044321.023924072B@omta18.mta.everyone.net>

It's only the report I'm having a problem. The box is

=Trim([City] & " " & [St] & " " & [Zip])

But the Zip is leaving out the hyphen. Hmm, just realized, the hyphen isn't really there, that's just the mask. I think I'll take the easy way out and just make two fields for the zip. And yeah, I use the +four as much as possible. Personal experimentation has proved that it does make a difference in the speed with which it is delivered. 

--
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"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net    

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Susan Harkins
> Sent: 11 Jul 2005 8:56 pm
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Zip code format
> 
> Kathryn, there's no built-in way to handle this -- you have a 
> couple of options. 
> 
> Store the - in the table with the data by changing the format 
> code to 00000\-9999;0; -- that last 0 stores formatting with 
> the data. 
> 
> Then, you can base the report on a query and use the 
> following expression to get rid of the -
> 
> FormattedZIP: Iif(Len(ZIPCODE) = 6, Left(ZIPCODE,5), ZIPCODE)
> 
> If you don't want to store the - in the data, then you'll 
> need an expression that handles putting it in instead of 
> taking it out. I don't have that off the top of my head -- 
> but I could come up with it. 
> 
> This really shouldn't be so hard -- maybe someone has a 
> simpler solution. 
> 
> My solution has to always just omit the last four digits -- I 
> don't know any po that actually requires them. :) Am I wrong 
> on that? Maybe you need them if you're using bulk mail or something. 
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> In my table (members), I have a text field called Zip. The 
> input mask is 00000\-9999;;_
> 
> Some people I have the 5 digit code, and others the zip+4, so 
> this works.
> When I look at a query, a person's zip will show up as 91502- 
> or 91006-2046 as I expect. However, when I make the mailing 
> labels, I get 910062046 instead of 91006-2046. The 91502- 
> does correctly show as 91502 without the dash.
> 
> In the table field definition, there is a space for "format" 
> but if I put the same _ I still get same result. There is no 
> "predefined format" in the drop down box.
> 
> What do I do? This is a flat database with only 28 records, 
> so I've got some play leeway.
> 
> --
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> "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
> kathryn at bassett.net
> http://bassett.net   
> 
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From rbgajewski at adelphia.net  Mon Jul 11 23:56:00 2005
From: rbgajewski at adelphia.net (Bob Gajewski)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:56:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Zip code format
In-Reply-To: <20050712044321.023924072B@omta18.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <20050712045603.NLJR29002.mta9.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>

Kathryn

How about this?

=[City] & " " & [St] & " " & IIf([Zip]<99999,Left$([Zip],5),Left$([Zip],5) &
"-" & Right$([Zip],4))

Regards,
Bob Gajewski
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 00:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Zip code format

It's only the report I'm having a problem. The box is

=Trim([City] & " " & [St] & " " & [Zip])

But the Zip is leaving out the hyphen. Hmm, just realized, the hyphen isn't
really there, that's just the mask. I think I'll take the easy way out and
just make two fields for the zip. And yeah, I use the +four as much as
possible. Personal experimentation has proved that it does make a difference
in the speed with which it is delivered. 

--
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"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net    

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan 
> Harkins
> Sent: 11 Jul 2005 8:56 pm
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Zip code format
> 
> Kathryn, there's no built-in way to handle this -- you have a couple 
> of options.
> 
> Store the - in the table with the data by changing the format code to 
> 00000\-9999;0; -- that last 0 stores formatting with the data.
> 
> Then, you can base the report on a query and use the following 
> expression to get rid of the -
> 
> FormattedZIP: Iif(Len(ZIPCODE) = 6, Left(ZIPCODE,5), ZIPCODE)
> 
> If you don't want to store the - in the data, then you'll need an 
> expression that handles putting it in instead of taking it out. I 
> don't have that off the top of my head -- but I could come up with it.
> 
> This really shouldn't be so hard -- maybe someone has a simpler 
> solution.
> 
> My solution has to always just omit the last four digits -- I don't 
> know any po that actually requires them. :) Am I wrong on that? Maybe 
> you need them if you're using bulk mail or something.
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
> In my table (members), I have a text field called Zip. The input mask 
> is 00000\-9999;;_
> 
> Some people I have the 5 digit code, and others the zip+4, so this 
> works.
> When I look at a query, a person's zip will show up as 91502- or 
> 91006-2046 as I expect. However, when I make the mailing labels, I get 
> 910062046 instead of 91006-2046. The 91502- does correctly show as 
> 91502 without the dash.
> 
> In the table field definition, there is a space for "format" 
> but if I put the same _ I still get same result. There is no 
> "predefined format" in the drop down box.
> 
> What do I do? This is a flat database with only 28 records, so I've 
> got some play leeway.
> 
> --
> Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA) "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is 
> my soap"
> kathryn at bassett.net
> http://bassett.net   
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From kathryn at bassett.net  Tue Jul 12 00:32:08 2005
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:32:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Zip code format
In-Reply-To: <20050712045603.NLJR29002.mta9.adelphia.net@DG1P2N21>
Message-ID: <20050712053212.B7E23401E2@omta16.mta.everyone.net>

Yes! That did it. I don't use the left/right string enough to have thought about that.

Thanks a bunch! My mailing labels are now printed so I can get this stuff in the mail in the morning.

--
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"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net   

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Bob Gajewski
> Sent: 11 Jul 2005 9:56 pm
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Zip code format
> 
> Kathryn
> 
> How about this?
> 
> =[City] & " " & [St] & " " & 
> IIf([Zip]<99999,Left$([Zip],5),Left$([Zip],5) & "-" & Right$([Zip],4))
> 
> Regards,
> Bob Gajewski



From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Tue Jul 12 01:03:08 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:33:08 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
References: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKMEJPDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <00df01c586a7$79b62dd0$ac1865cb@winxp>

Bob,

    Sample code as given below, in report's open event, should set its caption as per text box named TxtCaption (on form named F_Test).

    Private Sub Report_Open(Cancel As Integer)
        Me.Caption = Forms("F_Test")("TxtCaption")
    End Sub

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Heygood 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 02:21
  Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


  Hello to the list,

  I want to change the Caption property of a report from a form via code. Can anyone help me?

  thanks,,

  bob


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Jul 12 02:06:27 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:06:27 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration
Message-ID: <s2d38834.030@cactus.dk>

Hi Kath

It is expected to be November 2005 - at that time at least the first
apartments are ready.

If you click the menu a FAQ can be found. Among other things it
contains all sorts of dates related to the building.

http://www.turningtorso.com/

/gustav

>>> KP at sdsonline.net 07/12 1:42 am >>>
Absolutely incredible - when do they say it will it will be finished
Gustav?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:42 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Friday inspiration


  Hi John

  Many ways to look at this.

  Notice the pictures of the interior. No window is rectangular.

  /gustav

  >>> jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com 07/01 5:27 pm >>>
  Is it a windmill by any chance?  Cool looking structure.



From mll at homekeyinc.com  Tue Jul 12 04:37:19 2005
From: mll at homekeyinc.com (Michael Laferriere)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 05:37:19 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Multilingual Access
Message-ID: <200507120928.j6C9SPR00380@databaseadvisors.com>

Hi Folks - We developed an Access 2002 database 
in English. The client wants to create a copy of the database and prep it 
for the Chinese language. Does anyone know what's involved? Or where to start? Thanks.

 

Michael 




From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Jul 12 05:16:40 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:16:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
Message-ID: <200507121007.j6CA7Tr18640@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Hi Groups

I have a task of processing a file in DIF format - Access does not seem
to have this as a filter type - is this correct?

I know Excel can read DIF files but I have hit the limit of 65,000
records.

Does anyone have experience of processing/importing DIF (large) files
into MS Access, Excel, SQL or other?

Many thanks

Richard



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jul 12 08:10:48 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:10:48 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
In-Reply-To: <200507121007.j6CA7Tr18640@smarthost.yourcomms.net>
Message-ID: <42D44DF8.6581.16AD8050@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:16, Griffiths, Richard wrote:

> Does anyone have experience of processing/importing DIF (large) files
> into MS Access, Excel, SQL or other?
> 

 Never tried it before, but the DIF format is quite simple and is available 
at http://www.wotsit.org.

Looking at the 2KB DIF specification file from there and saving a simple 
tabular spreadsheet as DIF to check exactly what it looks like, I knocked 
this routine up in a few minutes.

This one is very basic.
1.  You need to define a table with the appropriate fields first.  If you 
wanted, you could extend the function to actually create the table based on 
the Table (name) and Tuple (columns) headers.  You could also make an 
initial pass through the file to try and determine the field types.

2.  This function  just imports into numeric and text fields, but a bit of 
playing with it would allow for dates etc (you'd just need to check 
rs(lngColPointer).Type and parse the data appropriately.


Function ImportDIF(DIFFilename As String, Tablename As String) 
Dim strTemp1 As String
Dim strTemp2 As String
Dim lngColumns As Long
Dim lngFields As Long
Dim lngColPointer As Long
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim blnFirstRecord As Boolean

Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(Tablename)
lngFields = rs.Fields.Count

Open DIFFilename For Input As #1
'headers
Line Input #1, strTemp1
While strTemp1 <> "DATA"
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Select Case strTemp1
   Case "TABLE"
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, 1
     Line Input #1, strTemp1 'Table Name
   Case "VECTORS"  'rows topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, row count
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case "TUPLES" 'columns topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, column count
      lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
      If lngColumns <> lngFields Then
         MsgBox "Table has " & lngFields & " fields, but DIF field has " & 
lngColumns & " Columns!"
         Close #1
         Exit Function
      End If
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case Else ' optional headers
End Select
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Wend
Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0,0
Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank

'Data
blnFirstRecord = True
Do
    Line Input #1, strTemp1 'type, numerical value
    Line Input #1, strTemp2 'string value
    Select Case Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
        Case -1  ' special value
           If strTemp2 = "BOT" Then
              If Not blnFirstRecord Then
                rs.Update
                blnFirstRecord = False
              End If
              rs.AddNew
              lngColPointer = 0 ' new row
           End If
           If strTemp = "EOD" Then Exit Function
        Case 0 ' numeric value in strTemp1
            rs(lngColPointer) = Split(strTemp1, ",")(2)
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
        Case 1 ' string value in strTemp2
            'trim leading and trailing quotes from string
            strTemp2 = Mid$(strTemp2, 2, Len(strTemp2) - 2)
            rs(lngColPointer) = strTemp2
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
    End Select
Loop
Close #1
End Function
-- 
Stuart




From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul 12 08:30:23 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:30:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Zip code format
In-Reply-To: <20050712044321.023924072B@omta18.mta.everyone.net>
Message-ID: <20050712133023.TPRN23762.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Actually Kathryn, believe it or not -- that is probably the most efficient
and simplest solution of all. :) 

Susan H. 

It's only the report I'm having a problem. The box is

=Trim([City] & " " & [St] & " " & [Zip])

But the Zip is leaving out the hyphen. Hmm, just realized, the hyphen isn't
really there, that's just the mask. I think I'll take the easy way out and
just make two fields for the zip. And yeah, I use the +four as much as
possible. Personal experimentation has proved that it does make a difference
in the speed with which it is delivered. 




From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Jul 12 09:37:04 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:37:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
Message-ID: <200507121427.j6CERqr06334@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Stuart

Thanks I will look, can you help me on the line of code

lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)

Split - is this your user def function na dwhat about the (1) bit??

Richard

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: 12 July 2005 14:11
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:16, Griffiths, Richard wrote:

> Does anyone have experience of processing/importing DIF (large) files 
> into MS Access, Excel, SQL or other?
> 

 Never tried it before, but the DIF format is quite simple and is
available 
at http://www.wotsit.org.

Looking at the 2KB DIF specification file from there and saving a simple

tabular spreadsheet as DIF to check exactly what it looks like, I
knocked 
this routine up in a few minutes.

This one is very basic.
1.  You need to define a table with the appropriate fields first.  If
you 
wanted, you could extend the function to actually create the table based
on 
the Table (name) and Tuple (columns) headers.  You could also make an 
initial pass through the file to try and determine the field types.

2.  This function  just imports into numeric and text fields, but a bit
of 
playing with it would allow for dates etc (you'd just need to check 
rs(lngColPointer).Type and parse the data appropriately.


Function ImportDIF(DIFFilename As String, Tablename As String) 
Dim strTemp1 As String
Dim strTemp2 As String
Dim lngColumns As Long
Dim lngFields As Long
Dim lngColPointer As Long
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim blnFirstRecord As Boolean

Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(Tablename)
lngFields = rs.Fields.Count

Open DIFFilename For Input As #1
'headers
Line Input #1, strTemp1
While strTemp1 <> "DATA"
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Select Case strTemp1
   Case "TABLE"
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, 1
     Line Input #1, strTemp1 'Table Name
   Case "VECTORS"  'rows topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, row count
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case "TUPLES" 'columns topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, column count
      lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
      If lngColumns <> lngFields Then
         MsgBox "Table has " & lngFields & " fields, but DIF field has "
& 
lngColumns & " Columns!"
         Close #1
         Exit Function
      End If
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case Else ' optional headers
End Select
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Wend
Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0,0
Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank

'Data
blnFirstRecord = True
Do
    Line Input #1, strTemp1 'type, numerical value
    Line Input #1, strTemp2 'string value
    Select Case Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
        Case -1  ' special value
           If strTemp2 = "BOT" Then
              If Not blnFirstRecord Then
                rs.Update
                blnFirstRecord = False
              End If
              rs.AddNew
              lngColPointer = 0 ' new row
           End If
           If strTemp = "EOD" Then Exit Function
        Case 0 ' numeric value in strTemp1
            rs(lngColPointer) = Split(strTemp1, ",")(2)
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
        Case 1 ' string value in strTemp2
            'trim leading and trailing quotes from string
            strTemp2 = Mid$(strTemp2, 2, Len(strTemp2) - 2)
            rs(lngColPointer) = strTemp2
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
    End Select
Loop
Close #1
End Function
-- 
Stuart


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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jul 12 10:06:16 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:06:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F12CDBE78@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

"Split()" is an Access 2000+ function which takes a string as its first
parameter and a second string parameter which is a delimiter used to split
the first string into components. The split function breaks the whole string
up and returns all the parts in an array. So the "(1)" at the end is in fact
an array index, retrieving element 1 from the array returned by Split().
This is piece of shorthand code writing (possibly the author learned to code
in the terse world of C/C++ ???), but I would not use it personally, simply
because it is a little confusing to read. I'd explicitly assign the returned
array to a Variant and then retrieve element 1 from that.

Dim StrParts as Variant
...
	StrParts = Split(strTemp1, ",")
	lngColumns = StrParts(1)
...

My 2?.

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


Stuart

Thanks I will look, can you help me on the line of code

lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)

Split - is this your user def function na dwhat about the (1) bit??

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 12 July 2005 14:11
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:16, Griffiths, Richard wrote:

> Does anyone have experience of processing/importing DIF (large) files
> into MS Access, Excel, SQL or other?
> 

 Never tried it before, but the DIF format is quite simple and is
available 
at http://www.wotsit.org.

Looking at the 2KB DIF specification file from there and saving a simple

tabular spreadsheet as DIF to check exactly what it looks like, I
knocked 
this routine up in a few minutes.

This one is very basic.
1.  You need to define a table with the appropriate fields first.  If
you 
wanted, you could extend the function to actually create the table based
on 
the Table (name) and Tuple (columns) headers.  You could also make an 
initial pass through the file to try and determine the field types.

2.  This function  just imports into numeric and text fields, but a bit
of 
playing with it would allow for dates etc (you'd just need to check 
rs(lngColPointer).Type and parse the data appropriately.


Function ImportDIF(DIFFilename As String, Tablename As String) 
Dim strTemp1 As String
Dim strTemp2 As String
Dim lngColumns As Long
Dim lngFields As Long
Dim lngColPointer As Long
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim blnFirstRecord As Boolean

Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(Tablename)
lngFields = rs.Fields.Count

Open DIFFilename For Input As #1
'headers
Line Input #1, strTemp1
While strTemp1 <> "DATA"
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Select Case strTemp1
   Case "TABLE"
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, 1
     Line Input #1, strTemp1 'Table Name
   Case "VECTORS"  'rows topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, row count
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case "TUPLES" 'columns topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, column count
      lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
      If lngColumns <> lngFields Then
         MsgBox "Table has " & lngFields & " fields, but DIF field has "
& 
lngColumns & " Columns!"
         Close #1
         Exit Function
      End If
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case Else ' optional headers
End Select
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Wend
Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0,0
Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank

'Data
blnFirstRecord = True
Do
    Line Input #1, strTemp1 'type, numerical value
    Line Input #1, strTemp2 'string value
    Select Case Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
        Case -1  ' special value
           If strTemp2 = "BOT" Then
              If Not blnFirstRecord Then
                rs.Update
                blnFirstRecord = False
              End If
              rs.AddNew
              lngColPointer = 0 ' new row
           End If
           If strTemp = "EOD" Then Exit Function
        Case 0 ' numeric value in strTemp1
            rs(lngColPointer) = Split(strTemp1, ",")(2)
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
        Case 1 ' string value in strTemp2
            'trim leading and trailing quotes from string
            strTemp2 = Mid$(strTemp2, 2, Len(strTemp2) - 2)
            rs(lngColPointer) = strTemp2
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
    End Select
Loop
Close #1
End Function
-- 
Stuart


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Jul 12 10:17:02 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:17:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B0D@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Actually, Split(), Join(),etc., are VBA 6 functions, which makes them available to Access 2000 and later.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


"Split()" is an Access 2000+ function which takes a string as its first parameter and a second string parameter which is a delimiter used to split the first string into components. The split function breaks the whole string up and returns all the parts in an array. So the "(1)" at the end is in fact an array index, retrieving element 1 from the array returned by Split(). This is piece of shorthand code writing (possibly the author learned to code in the terse world of C/C++ ???), but I would not use it personally, simply because it is a little confusing to read. I'd explicitly assign the returned array to a Variant and then retrieve element 1 from that.

Dim StrParts as Variant
...
	StrParts = Split(strTemp1, ",")
	lngColumns = StrParts(1)
...

My 2?.

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


Stuart

Thanks I will look, can you help me on the line of code

lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)

Split - is this your user def function na dwhat about the (1) bit??

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 12 July 2005 14:11
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:16, Griffiths, Richard wrote:

> Does anyone have experience of processing/importing DIF (large) files 
> into MS Access, Excel, SQL or other?
> 

 Never tried it before, but the DIF format is quite simple and is available 
at http://www.wotsit.org.

Looking at the 2KB DIF specification file from there and saving a simple

tabular spreadsheet as DIF to check exactly what it looks like, I knocked 
this routine up in a few minutes.

This one is very basic.
1.  You need to define a table with the appropriate fields first.  If you 
wanted, you could extend the function to actually create the table based on 
the Table (name) and Tuple (columns) headers.  You could also make an 
initial pass through the file to try and determine the field types.

2.  This function  just imports into numeric and text fields, but a bit of 
playing with it would allow for dates etc (you'd just need to check 
rs(lngColPointer).Type and parse the data appropriately.


Function ImportDIF(DIFFilename As String, Tablename As String) 
Dim strTemp1 As String
Dim strTemp2 As String
Dim lngColumns As Long
Dim lngFields As Long
Dim lngColPointer As Long
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim blnFirstRecord As Boolean

Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(Tablename)
lngFields = rs.Fields.Count

Open DIFFilename For Input As #1
'headers
Line Input #1, strTemp1
While strTemp1 <> "DATA"
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Select Case strTemp1
   Case "TABLE"
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, 1
     Line Input #1, strTemp1 'Table Name
   Case "VECTORS"  'rows topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, row count
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case "TUPLES" 'columns topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, column count
      lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
      If lngColumns <> lngFields Then
         MsgBox "Table has " & lngFields & " fields, but DIF field has " & 
lngColumns & " Columns!"
         Close #1
         Exit Function
      End If
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case Else ' optional headers
End Select
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Wend
Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0,0
Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank

'Data
blnFirstRecord = True
Do
    Line Input #1, strTemp1 'type, numerical value
    Line Input #1, strTemp2 'string value
    Select Case Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
        Case -1  ' special value
           If strTemp2 = "BOT" Then
              If Not blnFirstRecord Then
                rs.Update
                blnFirstRecord = False
              End If
              rs.AddNew
              lngColPointer = 0 ' new row
           End If
           If strTemp = "EOD" Then Exit Function
        Case 0 ' numeric value in strTemp1
            rs(lngColPointer) = Split(strTemp1, ",")(2)
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
        Case 1 ' string value in strTemp2
            'trim leading and trailing quotes from string
            strTemp2 = Mid$(strTemp2, 2, Len(strTemp2) - 2)
            rs(lngColPointer) = strTemp2
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
    End Select
Loop
Close #1
End Function
-- 
Stuart


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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Tue Jul 12 10:28:19 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:28:19 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
Message-ID: <200507121519.j6CFJ7r10201@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Thanks, I was using A97 hence the confusion.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: 12 July 2005 16:17
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


Actually, Split(), Join(),etc., are VBA 6 functions, which makes them available to Access 2000 and later.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


"Split()" is an Access 2000+ function which takes a string as its first parameter and a second string parameter which is a delimiter used to split the first string into components. The split function breaks the whole string up and returns all the parts in an array. So the "(1)" at the end is in fact an array index, retrieving element 1 from the array returned by Split(). This is piece of shorthand code writing (possibly the author learned to code in the terse world of C/C++ ???), but I would not use it personally, simply because it is a little confusing to read. I'd explicitly assign the returned array to a Variant and then retrieve element 1 from that.

Dim StrParts as Variant
...
	StrParts = Split(strTemp1, ",")
	lngColumns = StrParts(1)
...

My 2?.

Lambert


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


Stuart

Thanks I will look, can you help me on the line of code

lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)

Split - is this your user def function na dwhat about the (1) bit??

Richard

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 12 July 2005 14:11
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:16, Griffiths, Richard wrote:

> Does anyone have experience of processing/importing DIF (large) files
> into MS Access, Excel, SQL or other?
> 

 Never tried it before, but the DIF format is quite simple and is available 
at http://www.wotsit.org.

Looking at the 2KB DIF specification file from there and saving a simple

tabular spreadsheet as DIF to check exactly what it looks like, I knocked 
this routine up in a few minutes.

This one is very basic.
1.  You need to define a table with the appropriate fields first.  If you 
wanted, you could extend the function to actually create the table based on 
the Table (name) and Tuple (columns) headers.  You could also make an 
initial pass through the file to try and determine the field types.

2.  This function  just imports into numeric and text fields, but a bit of 
playing with it would allow for dates etc (you'd just need to check 
rs(lngColPointer).Type and parse the data appropriately.


Function ImportDIF(DIFFilename As String, Tablename As String) 
Dim strTemp1 As String
Dim strTemp2 As String
Dim lngColumns As Long
Dim lngFields As Long
Dim lngColPointer As Long
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim blnFirstRecord As Boolean

Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(Tablename)
lngFields = rs.Fields.Count

Open DIFFilename For Input As #1
'headers
Line Input #1, strTemp1
While strTemp1 <> "DATA"
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Select Case strTemp1
   Case "TABLE"
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, 1
     Line Input #1, strTemp1 'Table Name
   Case "VECTORS"  'rows topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, row count
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case "TUPLES" 'columns topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, column count
      lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
      If lngColumns <> lngFields Then
         MsgBox "Table has " & lngFields & " fields, but DIF field has " & 
lngColumns & " Columns!"
         Close #1
         Exit Function
      End If
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case Else ' optional headers
End Select
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Wend
Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0,0
Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank

'Data
blnFirstRecord = True
Do
    Line Input #1, strTemp1 'type, numerical value
    Line Input #1, strTemp2 'string value
    Select Case Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
        Case -1  ' special value
           If strTemp2 = "BOT" Then
              If Not blnFirstRecord Then
                rs.Update
                blnFirstRecord = False
              End If
              rs.AddNew
              lngColPointer = 0 ' new row
           End If
           If strTemp = "EOD" Then Exit Function
        Case 0 ' numeric value in strTemp1
            rs(lngColPointer) = Split(strTemp1, ",")(2)
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
        Case 1 ' string value in strTemp2
            'trim leading and trailing quotes from string
            strTemp2 = Mid$(strTemp2, 2, Len(strTemp2) - 2)
            rs(lngColPointer) = strTemp2
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
    End Select
Loop
Close #1
End Function
-- 
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jul 12 10:34:29 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:34:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F12CDBE9F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I think "is an Access 2000+ function" says just about the same thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


Actually, Split(), Join(),etc., are VBA 6 functions, which makes them
available to Access 2000 and later.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at aig.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


"Split()" is an Access 2000+ function which takes a string as its first
parameter and a second string parameter which is a delimiter used to split
the first string into components. The split function breaks the whole string
up and returns all the parts in an array. So the "(1)" at the end is in fact
an array index, retrieving element 1 from the array returned by Split().
This is piece of shorthand code writing (possibly the author learned to code
in the terse world of C/C++ ???), but I would not use it personally, simply
because it is a little confusing to read. I'd explicitly assign the returned
array to a Variant and then retrieve element 1 from that.

Dim StrParts as Variant
...
	StrParts = Split(strTemp1, ",")
	lngColumns = StrParts(1)
...

My 2?.

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Griffiths,
Richard
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


Stuart

Thanks I will look, can you help me on the line of code

lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)

Split - is this your user def function na dwhat about the (1) bit??

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 12 July 2005 14:11
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:16, Griffiths, Richard wrote:

> Does anyone have experience of processing/importing DIF (large) files
> into MS Access, Excel, SQL or other?
> 

 Never tried it before, but the DIF format is quite simple and is available 
at http://www.wotsit.org.

Looking at the 2KB DIF specification file from there and saving a simple

tabular spreadsheet as DIF to check exactly what it looks like, I knocked 
this routine up in a few minutes.

This one is very basic.
1.  You need to define a table with the appropriate fields first.  If you 
wanted, you could extend the function to actually create the table based on 
the Table (name) and Tuple (columns) headers.  You could also make an 
initial pass through the file to try and determine the field types.

2.  This function  just imports into numeric and text fields, but a bit of 
playing with it would allow for dates etc (you'd just need to check 
rs(lngColPointer).Type and parse the data appropriately.


Function ImportDIF(DIFFilename As String, Tablename As String) 
Dim strTemp1 As String
Dim strTemp2 As String
Dim lngColumns As Long
Dim lngFields As Long
Dim lngColPointer As Long
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim blnFirstRecord As Boolean

Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(Tablename)
lngFields = rs.Fields.Count

Open DIFFilename For Input As #1
'headers
Line Input #1, strTemp1
While strTemp1 <> "DATA"
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Select Case strTemp1
   Case "TABLE"
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, 1
     Line Input #1, strTemp1 'Table Name
   Case "VECTORS"  'rows topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, row count
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case "TUPLES" 'columns topic
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0, column count
      lngColumns = Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
      If lngColumns <> lngFields Then
         MsgBox "Table has " & lngFields & " fields, but DIF field has " & 
lngColumns & " Columns!"
         Close #1
         Exit Function
      End If
      Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank
   Case Else ' optional headers
End Select
Line Input #1, strTemp1
Wend
Line Input #1, strTemp1 '0,0
Line Input #1, strTemp1 ' blank

'Data
blnFirstRecord = True
Do
    Line Input #1, strTemp1 'type, numerical value
    Line Input #1, strTemp2 'string value
    Select Case Split(strTemp1, ",")(1)
        Case -1  ' special value
           If strTemp2 = "BOT" Then
              If Not blnFirstRecord Then
                rs.Update
                blnFirstRecord = False
              End If
              rs.AddNew
              lngColPointer = 0 ' new row
           End If
           If strTemp = "EOD" Then Exit Function
        Case 0 ' numeric value in strTemp1
            rs(lngColPointer) = Split(strTemp1, ",")(2)
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
        Case 1 ' string value in strTemp2
            'trim leading and trailing quotes from string
            strTemp2 = Mid$(strTemp2, 2, Len(strTemp2) - 2)
            rs(lngColPointer) = strTemp2
            lngColPointer = lngColPointer + 1
    End Select
Loop
Close #1
End Function
-- 
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From bheygood at abestsystems.com  Tue Jul 12 12:59:47 2005
From: bheygood at abestsystems.com (Bob Heygood)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:59:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <00df01c586a7$79b62dd0$ac1865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEMGDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>

Thanks to all who responded. The on open event is what I used.
I thot of it earlier, but thot twice about using a global variable.
Not to start another rant/discussion, but I feel this is a good example a
good use of a global.

I am creating 79 PDFs from code, which involves opening a report. The neat
news is that the reports caption property is what Acrobat uses for the
resulting file name. Hence my need to change the caption each time I
programmically open the report.


thanks again.

bob

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of A.D.Tejpal
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


Bob,

    Sample code as given below, in report's open event, should set its
caption as per text box named TxtCaption (on form named F_Test).

    Private Sub Report_Open(Cancel As Integer)
        Me.Caption = Forms("F_Test")("TxtCaption")
    End Sub

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Bob Heygood
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 02:21
  Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


  Hello to the list,

  I want to change the Caption property of a report from a form via code.
Can anyone help me?

  thanks,,

  bob
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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 12 14:42:59 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:42:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Unbound Report Only Showing Last Record
Message-ID: <BAY104-F220876E2FEC4CB52D1411F9ADF0@phx.gbl>

On my Detail section of my report, I am referencing a module that using my 
current recordset.  The code steps through just fine, but the report is only 
showing my last record, not writing each record as it steps through the 
procedure.  I tried the OnFormat event, but that gave me duplicates of my 
last record, and the OnPrint event seems to work.

Do I need to bookmark the record and store it in a variable?  If so, how can 
I get Access to write each record to my report.  I would use a temporary 
table, but I never know how many fields the report is going to hold.  It may 
hold one field or up to 57 fields.  That is the reason for the 
"unboundness".

Any ideas?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 12 14:48:18 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:48:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Unbound Report Only Showing Last Record
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F220876E2FEC4CB52D1411F9ADF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F41A37095BEC52C5B6911A49ADF0@phx.gbl>

Set db = CurrentDb()
Here is the code, if this helps!


Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("qryLocalAuthority", dbOpenDynaset)
i = 0

rs.MoveFirst
If Forms![frmmembersearch]![Index] = 0 Then

    Do Until i = Forms![frmmembersearch]![ListCount]
        MsgBox i
        MsgBox rs!Field0
        Reports![rptMemberSearch]![Text0] = rs![Field0]
        rs.MoveNext
        i = i + 1
    Loop




Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jul 12 17:04:54 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:04:54 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
In-Reply-To: <200507121519.j6CFJ7r10201@smarthost.yourcomms.net>
Message-ID: <42D4CB26.14173.18966BF2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Jul 2005 at 16:28, Griffiths, Richard wrote:

> Thanks, I was using A97 hence the confusion.
> 

For A97 replace: 
Split(strTemp,",")(1) with
Left$(strTemp,Instr(StrTemp,",") -1)
and
Split(strTemp,",")(2) with
Mid$(strTemp,Instr(StrTemp,",")+1)

-- 
Stuart




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jul 12 17:08:08 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:08:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F12CDBE78@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <42D4CBE8.10318.1899623F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:06, Heenan, Lambert wrote:

> This is piece of shorthand code writing (possibly the author learned to code
> in the terse world of C/C++ ???), 

Never learnt C/C++ , I've never found a need to :-)

> but I would not use it personally, simply
> because it is a little confusing to read. 

Why is it confusing?  You know that Split() returns an array, so why not 
just index it.

-- 
Stuart




From darsant at gmail.com  Tue Jul 12 17:52:48 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:52:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEMGDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
References: <00df01c586a7$79b62dd0$ac1865cb@winxp>
	<AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEMGDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a050712155277000d77@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/12/05, Bob Heygood <bheygood at abestsystems.com> wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded. The on open event is what I used.
> I thot of it earlier, but thot twice about using a global variable.
> Not to start another rant/discussion, but I feel this is a good example a
> good use of a global.
> 
> I am creating 79 PDFs from code, which involves opening a report. The neat
> news is that the reports caption property is what Acrobat uses for the
> resulting file name. Hence my need to change the caption each time I
> programmically open the report.
> 
> 
> thanks again.
> 
> bob

You may wish to consider using OpenArgs. When calling the report via
code, you can pass it arguments via the DoCmd.OpenReport, then with
the OnOpen code, change the caption of the current report. I do this
with an form that I use to determine date range (changes form caption
to be the name of the report it is called to open) and it works like a
charm.

DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"

Then in the on open handler:
Caption = OpenArgs

or something similar to fit your needs.
-- 
HTH
Josh McFarlane
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Jul 12 18:06:03 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:06:03 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <53c8e05a050712155277000d77@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEMGDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com>
Message-ID: <42D4D97B.12035.18CE6683@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 12 Jul 2005 at 17:52, Josh McFarlane wrote:

> 
> DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"
> 
> Then in the on open handler:
> Caption = OpenArgs
> 
> or something similar to fit your needs.
> -- 

In a similar vein, has any looked into changing the Caption in a query 
datasheet or print preview.   I often shortcut in simple applications and 
display a query to the user rather than going to the effort of producing a 
report based on the query. It would be nice to customise the header on a 
printout of the query.

-- 
Stuart




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Jul 12 20:00:39 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:00:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <53c8e05a050712155277000d77@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003101c58746$4c43f630$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

>You may wish to consider using OpenArgs.

In my framework I use a pair of classes for this purpose.  Openargs (in my
system) are in the format ArgName1=ArgValue1;ArgName2=ArgValue2;... With as
many arguments as the developer needs to pass in to the form.

clsOpenArg (singular) is a simple class with a name/value pair of variables
and properties to read them back out.  clsOpenArgs (plural) is the
"supervisor"  It is passed the openarg string by the form class.  It parses
the openargs and creates an instance of clsOpenArg for each openarg passed
in, saving each instance in a colOpenArgs using the argument name as the
key.

The nice thing about using a class pair like this is that the form (or
report) then has a place to go to retrieve the arguments in a consistent
manner.  You (the developer) no longer need to parse arguments inside any
form that has arguments passed it, just instantiate the supervisor
(clsOpenArgs (plural)) and pass in the openargs string (in OnOpen of the
form / report) and then just read out the argument values using variable
names that you know exist because you set them.

For example:

OpenArgs - FormCaption=MyForm;lblCompanyName=Colby
Consulting;...MoreArgs=MoreValues;

In the form or report header, you dim an instance of the supervisor class

Dim lclsOpenArgs As clsOpenArgs

In OnOpen you set up the class and pass in the openargs, then just reference
the arguments:


Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    lclsOpenArgs = New clsOpenArgs
    With lclsOpenArgs
        .OpenArgs = Me.OpenArgs

...the .OpenArgs method accepts the openargs string and parses them, placing
them into OpenArg class instances, then placing those class instances in a
colOpenArgs keyed on the argument name.

        lblCompanyName.Caption = .Arg("lblCompanyName")
        Me.Caption = .Arg("FormCaption")
    End With
End Sub

As you can see, the form code then just reads the argument values out by
passing in the name of an OpenArg it expects to receive and does something
with that value.

You can have one or 40 openargs, and clsOpenArgs just parses them and gets
them ready to use.  The form can read the values out of the supervisor class
clsOpenArgs by name.  The form class can read the values out anywhere they
are needed, in any event or even in functions that do something complex.

Another trick I use is to have a method in clsOpenArgs that looks up the
argument names in the properties collection of the form.  If the name
matches a property, the property is set to the value of the argument.  This
allows me to open a generic form and setup things like AllowEdits,
AllowDeletes etc using arguments passed in to OpenArgs.  Not always useful,
but when I need to do something like this it is just automatic.

Classic class programming.

This code and more will be found in a book I am madly (but slowly) writing
to be available at a bookseller near you sometime next year.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


On 7/12/05, Bob Heygood <bheygood at abestsystems.com> wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded. The on open event is what I used. I thot 
> of it earlier, but thot twice about using a global variable. Not to 
> start another rant/discussion, but I feel this is a good example a 
> good use of a global.
> 
> I am creating 79 PDFs from code, which involves opening a report. The 
> neat news is that the reports caption property is what Acrobat uses 
> for the resulting file name. Hence my need to change the caption each 
> time I programmically open the report.
> 
> 
> thanks again.
> 
> bob

You may wish to consider using OpenArgs. When calling the report via code,
you can pass it arguments via the DoCmd.OpenReport, then with the OnOpen
code, change the caption of the current report. I do this with an form that
I use to determine date range (changes form caption to be the name of the
report it is called to open) and it works like a charm.

DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"

Then in the on open handler:
Caption = OpenArgs

or something similar to fit your needs.
-- 
HTH
Josh McFarlane
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jul 12 21:52:44 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:52:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <003101c58746$4c43f630$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <200507130252.j6D2qqBK122764@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

Ahhh, I can finally stop holding my breath! I threw my poor excuse of an
answer out there just to keep this thread alive, I had a feeling you had
this done in classes and I was just waiting for you to describe how you did
it. :o)

So your writing a book on it all! Can you feed some chapters out on it for
proof reading purposes or something?

John B.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code

>You may wish to consider using OpenArgs.

In my framework I use a pair of classes for this purpose.  Openargs (in my
system) are in the format ArgName1=ArgValue1;ArgName2=ArgValue2;... With as
many arguments as the developer needs to pass in to the form.

clsOpenArg (singular) is a simple class with a name/value pair of variables
and properties to read them back out.  clsOpenArgs (plural) is the
"supervisor"  It is passed the openarg string by the form class.  It parses
the openargs and creates an instance of clsOpenArg for each openarg passed
in, saving each instance in a colOpenArgs using the argument name as the
key.

The nice thing about using a class pair like this is that the form (or
report) then has a place to go to retrieve the arguments in a consistent
manner.  You (the developer) no longer need to parse arguments inside any
form that has arguments passed it, just instantiate the supervisor
(clsOpenArgs (plural)) and pass in the openargs string (in OnOpen of the
form / report) and then just read out the argument values using variable
names that you know exist because you set them.

For example:

OpenArgs - FormCaption=MyForm;lblCompanyName=Colby
Consulting;...MoreArgs=MoreValues;

In the form or report header, you dim an instance of the supervisor class

Dim lclsOpenArgs As clsOpenArgs

In OnOpen you set up the class and pass in the openargs, then just reference
the arguments:


Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    lclsOpenArgs = New clsOpenArgs
    With lclsOpenArgs
        .OpenArgs = Me.OpenArgs

...the .OpenArgs method accepts the openargs string and parses them, placing
them into OpenArg class instances, then placing those class instances in a
colOpenArgs keyed on the argument name.

        lblCompanyName.Caption = .Arg("lblCompanyName")
        Me.Caption = .Arg("FormCaption")
    End With
End Sub

As you can see, the form code then just reads the argument values out by
passing in the name of an OpenArg it expects to receive and does something
with that value.

You can have one or 40 openargs, and clsOpenArgs just parses them and gets
them ready to use.  The form can read the values out of the supervisor class
clsOpenArgs by name.  The form class can read the values out anywhere they
are needed, in any event or even in functions that do something complex.

Another trick I use is to have a method in clsOpenArgs that looks up the
argument names in the properties collection of the form.  If the name
matches a property, the property is set to the value of the argument.  This
allows me to open a generic form and setup things like AllowEdits,
AllowDeletes etc using arguments passed in to OpenArgs.  Not always useful,
but when I need to do something like this it is just automatic.

Classic class programming.

This code and more will be found in a book I am madly (but slowly) writing
to be available at a bookseller near you sometime next year.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


On 7/12/05, Bob Heygood <bheygood at abestsystems.com> wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded. The on open event is what I used. I thot 
> of it earlier, but thot twice about using a global variable. Not to 
> start another rant/discussion, but I feel this is a good example a 
> good use of a global.
> 
> I am creating 79 PDFs from code, which involves opening a report. The 
> neat news is that the reports caption property is what Acrobat uses 
> for the resulting file name. Hence my need to change the caption each 
> time I programmically open the report.
> 
> 
> thanks again.
> 
> bob

You may wish to consider using OpenArgs. When calling the report via code,
you can pass it arguments via the DoCmd.OpenReport, then with the OnOpen
code, change the caption of the current report. I do this with an form that
I use to determine date range (changes form caption to be the name of the
report it is called to open) and it works like a charm.

DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"

Then in the on open handler:
Caption = OpenArgs

or something similar to fit your needs.
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Jul 12 22:44:57 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:44:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <200507130252.j6D2qqBK122764@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <003201c5875d$42e13190$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Around the end of last year, I started rewriting my framework for the third
time, in fact I now call it C2DbFW3G meaning 3rd generation.  It is Access2K
or better - A97 not supported mostly because I use RaiseEvents which are
unsupported in A97.  This version is still not fully fleshed out simply
because I have ported (rewritten) the old 2nd generation framework piece by
piece as I needed the modules, and I haven't needed the form / control stuff
that I had in the 2G version.  

In fact I started on it because of a project that is generating reports for
a client.  The application is a report system for a call center for short
term disability insurance.  I (re)wrote the call center software from
scratch but the reporting stuff kinda sorta worked and I never rewrote it
from scratch.  The insurance company that hires my client to do the call
center is completely changing THEIR software, which now supports completely
automated data feeds.  

In the past, my system generated Word documents with "new claim notices" and
"advise to pay" notices.  These reports were generated automatically and
attached to emails to the insurer, where they were opened and keyed in to
the system.  Because it was always done that way!  Sigh.

It always sucked, errors on their end keying in the reports etc.

So... Since the new system takes an automated feed, fixed width fields, text
files, FTPd to a site where it is opened and loaded in to the system
automatically, I had the opportunity to rebuild this reporting thing from
scratch.

The kinds of framework things I needed for this application were distinctly
different from the framework things I needed for a typical form based data
entry / call center application.  At the same time, entire pieces are pretty
similar or even identical.  So I yanked the useful classes and code other
than form / control stuff from the 2G framework, took the opportunity to
clean it up a LOT, and "started from scratch", although not exactly as I
have intimated.  The result is a lot cleaner, even more heavily class based,
and uses a "service plug-in" concept.

A framework is really about providing services to an application.  These
services may be clearly a service, such as logging to text files, zipping /
unzipping files, encryption etc., or they may be less clearly a service,
such as a form class that loads control classes that provide record
selectors, JIT subforms, OpenArgs etc.  In the end though, even these are
just services to an application.  What I am trying very hard to do this time
is set up the framework to allow plug-in services where the service is
loaded if it is needed, with a "socket" kind of interface - at least for the
non-form based services.  

Things like SysVars, Zip/Unzip, logging etc are really easy to do this with.
The classes exist and if the application wants a logger it asks for one.  It
is stored in a collection keyed by name and the app can then use it by
calling a .log method of the framework, passing the name of the logger and
the text to log.  If a logger by that name isn't loaded, it loads and then
stores the text that needs to be stored in the log file.

Like that.

It turns out that a log file like that works well for these NCN and ATP
reports.  The application asks for an NCN log, gathers the data and builds
up the fixed width field strings.  When each string (NCN or ATP record) is
finished, the app just writes it to the log file.  When all the records are
written to the log file, the file is emailed or FTPd as desired.  The log
and the email or FTP is just a service.  The APPLICATION has to build ATP
and NCN reports, but it just asks the framework for a log and when the log
is done, asks the framework to email or FTP the log somewhere.

Services.  Neat stuff and lots of fun to do.  

As for the book, well... I have worked on a couple of books for Wrox, but
they gave a lukewarm reception to the idea of this stuff written into a
book.  I am just "doing it myself" and will then pitch it when it is closer
to written.  Sometimes the powers that be just don't "get" what you want to
do.  Or maybe it just won't sell and I'll be sitting on a years worth of
writing.  I have never seen a book like this for the Access arena so I just
want to do it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


Ahhh, I can finally stop holding my breath! I threw my poor excuse of an
answer out there just to keep this thread alive, I had a feeling you had
this done in classes and I was just waiting for you to describe how you did
it. :o)

So your writing a book on it all! Can you feed some chapters out on it for
proof reading purposes or something?

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code

>You may wish to consider using OpenArgs.

In my framework I use a pair of classes for this purpose.  Openargs (in my
system) are in the format ArgName1=ArgValue1;ArgName2=ArgValue2;... With as
many arguments as the developer needs to pass in to the form.

clsOpenArg (singular) is a simple class with a name/value pair of variables
and properties to read them back out.  clsOpenArgs (plural) is the
"supervisor"  It is passed the openarg string by the form class.  It parses
the openargs and creates an instance of clsOpenArg for each openarg passed
in, saving each instance in a colOpenArgs using the argument name as the
key.

The nice thing about using a class pair like this is that the form (or
report) then has a place to go to retrieve the arguments in a consistent
manner.  You (the developer) no longer need to parse arguments inside any
form that has arguments passed it, just instantiate the supervisor
(clsOpenArgs (plural)) and pass in the openargs string (in OnOpen of the
form / report) and then just read out the argument values using variable
names that you know exist because you set them.

For example:

OpenArgs - FormCaption=MyForm;lblCompanyName=Colby
Consulting;...MoreArgs=MoreValues;

In the form or report header, you dim an instance of the supervisor class

Dim lclsOpenArgs As clsOpenArgs

In OnOpen you set up the class and pass in the openargs, then just reference
the arguments:


Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    lclsOpenArgs = New clsOpenArgs
    With lclsOpenArgs
        .OpenArgs = Me.OpenArgs

...the .OpenArgs method accepts the openargs string and parses them, placing
them into OpenArg class instances, then placing those class instances in a
colOpenArgs keyed on the argument name.

        lblCompanyName.Caption = .Arg("lblCompanyName")
        Me.Caption = .Arg("FormCaption")
    End With
End Sub

As you can see, the form code then just reads the argument values out by
passing in the name of an OpenArg it expects to receive and does something
with that value.

You can have one or 40 openargs, and clsOpenArgs just parses them and gets
them ready to use.  The form can read the values out of the supervisor class
clsOpenArgs by name.  The form class can read the values out anywhere they
are needed, in any event or even in functions that do something complex.

Another trick I use is to have a method in clsOpenArgs that looks up the
argument names in the properties collection of the form.  If the name
matches a property, the property is set to the value of the argument.  This
allows me to open a generic form and setup things like AllowEdits,
AllowDeletes etc using arguments passed in to OpenArgs.  Not always useful,
but when I need to do something like this it is just automatic.

Classic class programming.

This code and more will be found in a book I am madly (but slowly) writing
to be available at a bookseller near you sometime next year.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


On 7/12/05, Bob Heygood <bheygood at abestsystems.com> wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded. The on open event is what I used. I thot
> of it earlier, but thot twice about using a global variable. Not to 
> start another rant/discussion, but I feel this is a good example a 
> good use of a global.
> 
> I am creating 79 PDFs from code, which involves opening a report. The
> neat news is that the reports caption property is what Acrobat uses 
> for the resulting file name. Hence my need to change the caption each 
> time I programmically open the report.
> 
> 
> thanks again.
> 
> bob

You may wish to consider using OpenArgs. When calling the report via code,
you can pass it arguments via the DoCmd.OpenReport, then with the OnOpen
code, change the caption of the current report. I do this with an form that
I use to determine date range (changes form caption to be the name of the
report it is called to open) and it works like a charm.

DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"

Then in the on open handler:
Caption = OpenArgs

or something similar to fit your needs.
--
HTH
Josh McFarlane
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Jul 12 23:45:26 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:45:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <003201c5875d$42e13190$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <200507130445.j6D4jX38247366@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

Sounds interesting!

The book would target a very specific audience and I suppose that bodes low
returns for a publisher. The downside of capitalism :o(

You could probably bring Susan on as editor and have the benefit of her
connections. I don't know if you lurk the OT list or not but she has been
doing children's books in addition to her technical articles. She seems to
be the most prolific author for Access Advisor magazine lately. Works in
conjunction with a lot of past and present DBA people. I think this last
issue she did an article with Mike Gunderloy and the one before with Gustav
Brock.

I could proof read it for you too.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

Around the end of last year, I started rewriting my framework for the third
time, in fact I now call it C2DbFW3G meaning 3rd generation.  It is Access2K
or better - A97 not supported mostly because I use RaiseEvents which are
unsupported in A97.  This version is still not fully fleshed out simply
because I have ported (rewritten) the old 2nd generation framework piece by
piece as I needed the modules, and I haven't needed the form / control stuff
that I had in the 2G version.  

In fact I started on it because of a project that is generating reports for
a client.  The application is a report system for a call center for short
term disability insurance.  I (re)wrote the call center software from
scratch but the reporting stuff kinda sorta worked and I never rewrote it
from scratch.  The insurance company that hires my client to do the call
center is completely changing THEIR software, which now supports completely
automated data feeds.  

In the past, my system generated Word documents with "new claim notices" and
"advise to pay" notices.  These reports were generated automatically and
attached to emails to the insurer, where they were opened and keyed in to
the system.  Because it was always done that way!  Sigh.

It always sucked, errors on their end keying in the reports etc.

So... Since the new system takes an automated feed, fixed width fields, text
files, FTPd to a site where it is opened and loaded in to the system
automatically, I had the opportunity to rebuild this reporting thing from
scratch.

The kinds of framework things I needed for this application were distinctly
different from the framework things I needed for a typical form based data
entry / call center application.  At the same time, entire pieces are pretty
similar or even identical.  So I yanked the useful classes and code other
than form / control stuff from the 2G framework, took the opportunity to
clean it up a LOT, and "started from scratch", although not exactly as I
have intimated.  The result is a lot cleaner, even more heavily class based,
and uses a "service plug-in" concept.

A framework is really about providing services to an application.  These
services may be clearly a service, such as logging to text files, zipping /
unzipping files, encryption etc., or they may be less clearly a service,
such as a form class that loads control classes that provide record
selectors, JIT subforms, OpenArgs etc.  In the end though, even these are
just services to an application.  What I am trying very hard to do this time
is set up the framework to allow plug-in services where the service is
loaded if it is needed, with a "socket" kind of interface - at least for the
non-form based services.  

Things like SysVars, Zip/Unzip, logging etc are really easy to do this with.
The classes exist and if the application wants a logger it asks for one.  It
is stored in a collection keyed by name and the app can then use it by
calling a .log method of the framework, passing the name of the logger and
the text to log.  If a logger by that name isn't loaded, it loads and then
stores the text that needs to be stored in the log file.

Like that.

It turns out that a log file like that works well for these NCN and ATP
reports.  The application asks for an NCN log, gathers the data and builds
up the fixed width field strings.  When each string (NCN or ATP record) is
finished, the app just writes it to the log file.  When all the records are
written to the log file, the file is emailed or FTPd as desired.  The log
and the email or FTP is just a service.  The APPLICATION has to build ATP
and NCN reports, but it just asks the framework for a log and when the log
is done, asks the framework to email or FTP the log somewhere.

Services.  Neat stuff and lots of fun to do.  

As for the book, well... I have worked on a couple of books for Wrox, but
they gave a lukewarm reception to the idea of this stuff written into a
book.  I am just "doing it myself" and will then pitch it when it is closer
to written.  Sometimes the powers that be just don't "get" what you want to
do.  Or maybe it just won't sell and I'll be sitting on a years worth of
writing.  I have never seen a book like this for the Access arena so I just
want to do it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


Ahhh, I can finally stop holding my breath! I threw my poor excuse of an
answer out there just to keep this thread alive, I had a feeling you had
this done in classes and I was just waiting for you to describe how you did
it. :o)

So your writing a book on it all! Can you feed some chapters out on it for
proof reading purposes or something?

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code

>You may wish to consider using OpenArgs.

In my framework I use a pair of classes for this purpose.  Openargs (in my
system) are in the format ArgName1=ArgValue1;ArgName2=ArgValue2;... With as
many arguments as the developer needs to pass in to the form.

clsOpenArg (singular) is a simple class with a name/value pair of variables
and properties to read them back out.  clsOpenArgs (plural) is the
"supervisor"  It is passed the openarg string by the form class.  It parses
the openargs and creates an instance of clsOpenArg for each openarg passed
in, saving each instance in a colOpenArgs using the argument name as the
key.

The nice thing about using a class pair like this is that the form (or
report) then has a place to go to retrieve the arguments in a consistent
manner.  You (the developer) no longer need to parse arguments inside any
form that has arguments passed it, just instantiate the supervisor
(clsOpenArgs (plural)) and pass in the openargs string (in OnOpen of the
form / report) and then just read out the argument values using variable
names that you know exist because you set them.

For example:

OpenArgs - FormCaption=MyForm;lblCompanyName=Colby
Consulting;...MoreArgs=MoreValues;

In the form or report header, you dim an instance of the supervisor class

Dim lclsOpenArgs As clsOpenArgs

In OnOpen you set up the class and pass in the openargs, then just reference
the arguments:


Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    lclsOpenArgs = New clsOpenArgs
    With lclsOpenArgs
        .OpenArgs = Me.OpenArgs

...the .OpenArgs method accepts the openargs string and parses them, placing
them into OpenArg class instances, then placing those class instances in a
colOpenArgs keyed on the argument name.

        lblCompanyName.Caption = .Arg("lblCompanyName")
        Me.Caption = .Arg("FormCaption")
    End With
End Sub

As you can see, the form code then just reads the argument values out by
passing in the name of an OpenArg it expects to receive and does something
with that value.

You can have one or 40 openargs, and clsOpenArgs just parses them and gets
them ready to use.  The form can read the values out of the supervisor class
clsOpenArgs by name.  The form class can read the values out anywhere they
are needed, in any event or even in functions that do something complex.

Another trick I use is to have a method in clsOpenArgs that looks up the
argument names in the properties collection of the form.  If the name
matches a property, the property is set to the value of the argument.  This
allows me to open a generic form and setup things like AllowEdits,
AllowDeletes etc using arguments passed in to OpenArgs.  Not always useful,
but when I need to do something like this it is just automatic.

Classic class programming.

This code and more will be found in a book I am madly (but slowly) writing
to be available at a bookseller near you sometime next year.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


On 7/12/05, Bob Heygood <bheygood at abestsystems.com> wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded. The on open event is what I used. I thot 
> of it earlier, but thot twice about using a global variable. Not to 
> start another rant/discussion, but I feel this is a good example a 
> good use of a global.
> 
> I am creating 79 PDFs from code, which involves opening a report. The 
> neat news is that the reports caption property is what Acrobat uses 
> for the resulting file name. Hence my need to change the caption each 
> time I programmically open the report.
> 
> 
> thanks again.
> 
> bob

You may wish to consider using OpenArgs. When calling the report via code,
you can pass it arguments via the DoCmd.OpenReport, then with the OnOpen
code, change the caption of the current report. I do this with an form that
I use to determine date range (changes form caption to be the name of the
report it is called to open) and it works like a charm.

DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"

Then in the on open handler:
Caption = OpenArgs

or something similar to fit your needs.
--
HTH
Josh McFarlane
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 13 01:29:24 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:29:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <003201c5875d$42e13190$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IJJ00F1DZCXNY@l-daemon>

Hi John:

Save a copy for me. It sounds like a good read...but I guess it only works
with bound forms.(?)

Jim 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

Around the end of last year, I started rewriting my framework for the third
time, in fact I now call it C2DbFW3G meaning 3rd generation.  It is Access2K
or better - A97 not supported mostly because I use RaiseEvents which are
unsupported in A97.  This version is still not fully fleshed out simply
because I have ported (rewritten) the old 2nd generation framework piece by
piece as I needed the modules, and I haven't needed the form / control stuff
that I had in the 2G version.  

In fact I started on it because of a project that is generating reports for
a client.  The application is a report system for a call center for short
term disability insurance.  I (re)wrote the call center software from
scratch but the reporting stuff kinda sorta worked and I never rewrote it
from scratch.  The insurance company that hires my client to do the call
center is completely changing THEIR software, which now supports completely
automated data feeds.  

In the past, my system generated Word documents with "new claim notices" and
"advise to pay" notices.  These reports were generated automatically and
attached to emails to the insurer, where they were opened and keyed in to
the system.  Because it was always done that way!  Sigh.

It always sucked, errors on their end keying in the reports etc.

So... Since the new system takes an automated feed, fixed width fields, text
files, FTPd to a site where it is opened and loaded in to the system
automatically, I had the opportunity to rebuild this reporting thing from
scratch.

The kinds of framework things I needed for this application were distinctly
different from the framework things I needed for a typical form based data
entry / call center application.  At the same time, entire pieces are pretty
similar or even identical.  So I yanked the useful classes and code other
than form / control stuff from the 2G framework, took the opportunity to
clean it up a LOT, and "started from scratch", although not exactly as I
have intimated.  The result is a lot cleaner, even more heavily class based,
and uses a "service plug-in" concept.

A framework is really about providing services to an application.  These
services may be clearly a service, such as logging to text files, zipping /
unzipping files, encryption etc., or they may be less clearly a service,
such as a form class that loads control classes that provide record
selectors, JIT subforms, OpenArgs etc.  In the end though, even these are
just services to an application.  What I am trying very hard to do this time
is set up the framework to allow plug-in services where the service is
loaded if it is needed, with a "socket" kind of interface - at least for the
non-form based services.  

Things like SysVars, Zip/Unzip, logging etc are really easy to do this with.
The classes exist and if the application wants a logger it asks for one.  It
is stored in a collection keyed by name and the app can then use it by
calling a .log method of the framework, passing the name of the logger and
the text to log.  If a logger by that name isn't loaded, it loads and then
stores the text that needs to be stored in the log file.

Like that.

It turns out that a log file like that works well for these NCN and ATP
reports.  The application asks for an NCN log, gathers the data and builds
up the fixed width field strings.  When each string (NCN or ATP record) is
finished, the app just writes it to the log file.  When all the records are
written to the log file, the file is emailed or FTPd as desired.  The log
and the email or FTP is just a service.  The APPLICATION has to build ATP
and NCN reports, but it just asks the framework for a log and when the log
is done, asks the framework to email or FTP the log somewhere.

Services.  Neat stuff and lots of fun to do.  

As for the book, well... I have worked on a couple of books for Wrox, but
they gave a lukewarm reception to the idea of this stuff written into a
book.  I am just "doing it myself" and will then pitch it when it is closer
to written.  Sometimes the powers that be just don't "get" what you want to
do.  Or maybe it just won't sell and I'll be sitting on a years worth of
writing.  I have never seen a book like this for the Access arena so I just
want to do it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


Ahhh, I can finally stop holding my breath! I threw my poor excuse of an
answer out there just to keep this thread alive, I had a feeling you had
this done in classes and I was just waiting for you to describe how you did
it. :o)

So your writing a book on it all! Can you feed some chapters out on it for
proof reading purposes or something?

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code

>You may wish to consider using OpenArgs.

In my framework I use a pair of classes for this purpose.  Openargs (in my
system) are in the format ArgName1=ArgValue1;ArgName2=ArgValue2;... With as
many arguments as the developer needs to pass in to the form.

clsOpenArg (singular) is a simple class with a name/value pair of variables
and properties to read them back out.  clsOpenArgs (plural) is the
"supervisor"  It is passed the openarg string by the form class.  It parses
the openargs and creates an instance of clsOpenArg for each openarg passed
in, saving each instance in a colOpenArgs using the argument name as the
key.

The nice thing about using a class pair like this is that the form (or
report) then has a place to go to retrieve the arguments in a consistent
manner.  You (the developer) no longer need to parse arguments inside any
form that has arguments passed it, just instantiate the supervisor
(clsOpenArgs (plural)) and pass in the openargs string (in OnOpen of the
form / report) and then just read out the argument values using variable
names that you know exist because you set them.

For example:

OpenArgs - FormCaption=MyForm;lblCompanyName=Colby
Consulting;...MoreArgs=MoreValues;

In the form or report header, you dim an instance of the supervisor class

Dim lclsOpenArgs As clsOpenArgs

In OnOpen you set up the class and pass in the openargs, then just reference
the arguments:


Private Sub Form_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    lclsOpenArgs = New clsOpenArgs
    With lclsOpenArgs
        .OpenArgs = Me.OpenArgs

...the .OpenArgs method accepts the openargs string and parses them, placing
them into OpenArg class instances, then placing those class instances in a
colOpenArgs keyed on the argument name.

        lblCompanyName.Caption = .Arg("lblCompanyName")
        Me.Caption = .Arg("FormCaption")
    End With
End Sub

As you can see, the form code then just reads the argument values out by
passing in the name of an OpenArg it expects to receive and does something
with that value.

You can have one or 40 openargs, and clsOpenArgs just parses them and gets
them ready to use.  The form can read the values out of the supervisor class
clsOpenArgs by name.  The form class can read the values out anywhere they
are needed, in any event or even in functions that do something complex.

Another trick I use is to have a method in clsOpenArgs that looks up the
argument names in the properties collection of the form.  If the name
matches a property, the property is set to the value of the argument.  This
allows me to open a generic form and setup things like AllowEdits,
AllowDeletes etc using arguments passed in to OpenArgs.  Not always useful,
but when I need to do something like this it is just automatic.

Classic class programming.

This code and more will be found in a book I am madly (but slowly) writing
to be available at a bookseller near you sometime next year.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:53 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


On 7/12/05, Bob Heygood <bheygood at abestsystems.com> wrote:
> Thanks to all who responded. The on open event is what I used. I thot
> of it earlier, but thot twice about using a global variable. Not to 
> start another rant/discussion, but I feel this is a good example a 
> good use of a global.
> 
> I am creating 79 PDFs from code, which involves opening a report. The
> neat news is that the reports caption property is what Acrobat uses 
> for the resulting file name. Hence my need to change the caption each 
> time I programmically open the report.
> 
> 
> thanks again.
> 
> bob

You may wish to consider using OpenArgs. When calling the report via code,
you can pass it arguments via the DoCmd.OpenReport, then with the OnOpen
code, change the caption of the current report. I do this with an form that
I use to determine date range (changes form caption to be the name of the
report it is called to open) and it works like a charm.

DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"

Then in the on open handler:
Caption = OpenArgs

or something similar to fit your needs.
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 13 01:56:04 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:56:04 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Multilingual Access
References: <200507120928.j6C9SPR00380@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <42D4BB04.8070809@shaw.ca>

Rocky just went through that maybe he can supply the gory details.

Some sites that might help

http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo/language/default.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo/language/localized.mspx

You might also want to read your way through this MS Globalization site

http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev
and Dr. International's Faq's
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/drintl/

Maybe this Russian(Moscow Access User Group) developed Access Translator
might help with Captions and Controls. Translator collects text information
from Access Forms, Reports and Command bars and its controls - labels,
textboxes, etc. Then developer translates collected text to other
languages, and at last Translator writes translated text back to Access
controls. Demo version available. Michael Kaplan gives it a thumbs up.
Although not sure if it handles Bidi langauges like arabic and hebrew.
Or chinese which might require an IME

http://c85.cemi.rssi.ru/access/Downloads/Trans/Trans.asp

Michael Laferriere wrote:

>Hi Folks - We developed an Access 2002 database 
>in English. The client wants to create a copy of the database and prep it 
>for the Chinese language. Does anyone know what's involved? Or where to start? Thanks.
>
> 
>
>Michael 
>
>
>  
>

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Canada





From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jul 13 06:35:15 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:35:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <0IJJ00F1DZCXNY@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <002101c5879e$f3d65660$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Jim,

My framework (the part that had to do with forms and controls) was indeed
aimed at bound forms.  However the concept works for unbound forms as well.
Indeed it would be even more critical to use a framework as you the
developer are doing so much of the work that Access was doing for you -
loading all of the data into the controls, checking for updates to the data
by other people before you wrote changes back to the table, writing the data
back from controls into fields in the tables, stuff like that.  All of that
code would be framework material.  Once written and stored in the framework,
the doing of it would be automatic by the framework.

If you are one of the unholy (unbounders) why don't you give a thumbnail
sketch of how you manage all of that work.  I will then brainstorm how I
would look at doing it in a framework.  Remember that the concept of a
framework is to make it as automatic as possible.  For example (in a bound
form) I have a form class and I have a class for each control type.  The
form class runs a control scanner, gets the control type of each control,
loads a class instance for each control found.  Once this is done, the form
class and control classes can work together to do tasks.  

As an example, I can literally just drop a pair of controls on the form, a
text box named RecID that exposes (is bound to) the PK (always an
autonumber) and an unbound combo called RecSel.  The names are specific and
if the control scanner finds this pair of controls it knows that a record
selector exists and runs the code.  The afterupdate of the combo by that
name calls a method of the parent form saying "move to recid XXXX".  The
column 0 of the combo is the PK of the record in the form so it knows the
PK.  The form's OnCurrent knows that it needs to keep the combo synced to
the displayed record in the form so it calls a method of the combo class
telling it to display the data relevant to the current record in the form.
Thus the form, the combo and a text box all work as a system to form a
record selector.  If the developer drops these two controls on the form he
"just has" a record selector.  Nothing else is required - other than binding
RecSel to the PK field and setting the combo's query to display the data and
get the PK of the records in the table.

As an unbounder, you need to think about how to achieve this kind of
"automaticness" in the things you do.  Naturally some tasks do require
feeding data into init() methods of classes to set the classes up to do
their job.  After that though the "systems" need to just work together.
Load the data into the unbound form / controls.  Store flags in each
control's class saying that control's data was modified.  Scan for all
controls with modified data and update the underlying data in the record.
Check for data changes in the data you are about to update and inform the
user that another user edited the record since you loaded the data.  Etc.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

Save a copy for me. It sounds like a good read...but I guess it only works
with bound forms.(?)

Jim 





From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 13 06:55:07 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:55:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <002101c5879e$f3d65660$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFCENODPAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

John,

<<Indeed it would be even more critical to use a framework as you the
developer are doing so much of the work that Access was doing for you -
loading all of the data into the controls, checking for updates to the data
by other people before you wrote changes back to the table, writing the data
back from controls into fields in the tables, stuff like that.  All of that
code would be framework material.  Once written and stored in the framework,
the doing of it would be automatic by the framework.>>

  There was a discussion long ago on this very point; why there were not
more frameworks available for Access.  The consensus at the time was that
Access did a lot of what a traditional framework did for you.

  For example, I work with VMP which is a framework for VFP and one of the
base services it offers is PK generation.  Foxpro for the longest time
didn't have an Autonumber, while Access has had this from day one.

  The other problem was that Access did not provide many hooks, so it was
difficult to achieve certain things.  A lot has changed since then and yet
there is still a fundamental lack of frameworks for Access.

  It's strange to because in working with many applications, I see that
other developers have come up with things to solve the very same problems
(PK generation, pick lists, calendars, etc).

  I'm still scratching my head as to why.

Jim.



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:35 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Jim,

My framework (the part that had to do with forms and controls) was indeed
aimed at bound forms.  However the concept works for unbound forms as well.
Indeed it would be even more critical to use a framework as you the
developer are doing so much of the work that Access was doing for you -
loading all of the data into the controls, checking for updates to the data
by other people before you wrote changes back to the table, writing the data
back from controls into fields in the tables, stuff like that.  All of that
code would be framework material.  Once written and stored in the framework,
the doing of it would be automatic by the framework.

If you are one of the unholy (unbounders) why don't you give a thumbnail
sketch of how you manage all of that work.  I will then brainstorm how I
would look at doing it in a framework.  Remember that the concept of a
framework is to make it as automatic as possible.  For example (in a bound
form) I have a form class and I have a class for each control type.  The
form class runs a control scanner, gets the control type of each control,
loads a class instance for each control found.  Once this is done, the form
class and control classes can work together to do tasks.

As an example, I can literally just drop a pair of controls on the form, a
text box named RecID that exposes (is bound to) the PK (always an
autonumber) and an unbound combo called RecSel.  The names are specific and
if the control scanner finds this pair of controls it knows that a record
selector exists and runs the code.  The afterupdate of the combo by that
name calls a method of the parent form saying "move to recid XXXX".  The
column 0 of the combo is the PK of the record in the form so it knows the
PK.  The form's OnCurrent knows that it needs to keep the combo synced to
the displayed record in the form so it calls a method of the combo class
telling it to display the data relevant to the current record in the form.
Thus the form, the combo and a text box all work as a system to form a
record selector.  If the developer drops these two controls on the form he
"just has" a record selector.  Nothing else is required - other than binding
RecSel to the PK field and setting the combo's query to display the data and
get the PK of the records in the table.

As an unbounder, you need to think about how to achieve this kind of
"automaticness" in the things you do.  Naturally some tasks do require
feeding data into init() methods of classes to set the classes up to do
their job.  After that though the "systems" need to just work together.
Load the data into the unbound form / controls.  Store flags in each
control's class saying that control's data was modified.  Scan for all
controls with modified data and update the underlying data in the record.
Check for data changes in the data you are about to update and inform the
user that another user edited the record since you loaded the data.  Etc.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

Save a copy for me. It sounds like a good read...but I guess it only works
with bound forms.(?)

Jim



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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jul 13 08:08:42 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:08:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F12CDC123@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Did I say it made no sense? Did I say I could not understand it? Did I say
it turned my brain to mush looking at the *unconventional* syntax? No. I
answered another liseter's question. Someone who *did not* understand it.
That is why I diplomatically described it as "a little confusing". 

Lambert

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Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reading DIF format (A97 etc)


On 12 Jul 2005 at 11:06, Heenan, Lambert wrote:

> This is piece of shorthand code writing (possibly the author learned 
> to code in the terse world of C/C++ ???),

Never learnt C/C++ , I've never found a need to :-)

> but I would not use it personally, simply
> because it is a little confusing to read.

Why is it confusing?  You know that Split() returns an array, so why not 
just index it.

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Jul 13 08:31:48 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:31:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322E41143@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 



From mikedorism at verizon.net  Wed Jul 13 09:54:45 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:54:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322E41143@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <000001c587ba$d0370260$2f01a8c0@dorismanning>

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Jul 13 10:06:42 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:06:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322E41187@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation
table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Wed Jul 13 10:12:05 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:12:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322E41187@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <000101c587bd$3b71a740$2f01a8c0@dorismanning>

It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation
table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Jul 13 10:32:30 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:32:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322E411C6@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

So for the ignorant here how do I know if I have non updateable query
and what can I do about it?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation
table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Wed Jul 13 10:39:53 2005
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:39:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE01E96A18@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

I've recently had this very error 3086.  I found no suggestions to my
solution however came to realize that there was no records being
returned thus causing the error, or so I believed this to be my cause.
Because I call this query from code, I captured this error and exit the
sub without any issues.

To find out if you are returning any records, open the query in design
mode then simply click on the "Datasheet View", this will show you what
your results will be, but will not execute the delete command.

Anyone else have any similar experiences with a delete query.  My delete
query contained a sub-query and was not doing any joins.

Rich 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Jul 13 10:46:13 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:46:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322E411D0@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Datasheet view shows several hundred records to delete so something else
is happening to prevent the records from being deleted. Thanks for the
idea.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:40 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

I've recently had this very error 3086.  I found no suggestions to my
solution however came to realize that there was no records being
returned thus causing the error, or so I believed this to be my cause.
Because I call this query from code, I captured this error and exit the
sub without any issues.

To find out if you are returning any records, open the query in design
mode then simply click on the "Datasheet View", this will show you what
your results will be, but will not execute the delete command.

Anyone else have any similar experiences with a delete query.  My delete
query contained a sub-query and was not doing any joins.

Rich 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 13 10:54:11 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:54:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B0F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Try adding the DISTINCTROW keyword to your query (or set the unique
records property to true in the query properties) and see if that makes
a difference.  It often does.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


Datasheet view shows several hundred records to delete so something else
is happening to prevent the records from being deleted. Thanks for the
idea.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:40 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

I've recently had this very error 3086.  I found no suggestions to my
solution however came to realize that there was no records being
returned thus causing the error, or so I believed this to be my cause.
Because I call this query from code, I captured this error and exit the
sub without any issues.

To find out if you are returning any records, open the query in design
mode then simply click on the "Datasheet View", this will show you what
your results will be, but will not execute the delete command.

Anyone else have any similar experiences with a delete query.  My delete
query contained a sub-query and was not doing any joins.

Rich 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com  Wed Jul 13 10:56:15 2005
From: donald.a.Mcgillivray at mail.sprint.com (Mcgillivray, Don [ITS])
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:56:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <EC829B33DF5B5B48A956B7A2E894AA9AD90535@PLSWB06C.ad.sprint.com>

A delete query against an empty recordset simply exits without error.
"DELETE * FROM tblMyTable WHERE tblMyTable.MyField = 2;" simply runs and
exits if there are no MyFields in tblMyTable with values equal to 2.  No
error.  I'd say that Doris's suspicion that the recordset is
non-updateable is the more likely cause of Chester's problem.

You may want to re-visit your code to ensure that you're not missing
some other circumstance that is causing your delete queries to fail.

Don

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:40 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


I've recently had this very error 3086.  I found no suggestions to my
solution however came to realize that there was no records being
returned thus causing the error, or so I believed this to be my cause.
Because I call this query from code, I captured this error and exit the
sub without any issues.

To find out if you are returning any records, open the query in design
mode then simply click on the "Datasheet View", this will show you what
your results will be, but will not execute the delete command.

Anyone else have any similar experiences with a delete query.  My delete
query contained a sub-query and was not doing any joins.

Rich 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Jul 13 10:58:57 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:58:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322E411D9@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

That made it work. Now my day is mush better. I did not want to delete
3000+ records by hand. Thanks all

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try adding the DISTINCTROW keyword to your query (or set the unique
records property to true in the query properties) and see if that makes
a difference.  It often does.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


Datasheet view shows several hundred records to delete so something else
is happening to prevent the records from being deleted. Thanks for the
idea.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:40 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

I've recently had this very error 3086.  I found no suggestions to my
solution however came to realize that there was no records being
returned thus causing the error, or so I believed this to be my cause.
Because I call this query from code, I captured this error and exit the
sub without any issues.

To find out if you are returning any records, open the query in design
mode then simply click on the "Datasheet View", this will show you what
your results will be, but will not execute the delete command.

Anyone else have any similar experiences with a delete query.  My delete
query contained a sub-query and was not doing any joins.

Rich 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

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Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 13 11:16:39 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:16:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <002101c5879e$f3d65660$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IJK005EDQJPG2@l-daemon>

Hi John:

The methods I have used were designed about eight years ago and have
copied/improved again and again. Here are the basics and a step by step
methodology:
1. I always use ADO-OLE. (One exception is MySQL... a bit of a pain. If
someone could figure out a method that would not require a station by
station visit to install the MySQL ODBC drivers I would be for ever
indebted.)
2. The forms and subforms are populated as the user moves through the
records and but until the user actually changes field content on a form or
attempts to delete the current record, the recordset used to feed the form
is static.
3. a) A record or group of records in the case of a subform being displayed,
are first pulled into a recordset, and content are then used to populate the
form collection. In theory the record exists in three places.  
b) If there is a change of deletion request the recordset is locked by
creating a dynamic recordset with record-lock attribute.
c) If an 'already locked' error occurs when this lock is being applied then
the user is informed of the condition and given the appropriate options.
d) When using a 'real' :-) SQL DB (MS SQL/Oracle etc.) much of the record
handling is managed internally as soon as the 'BeginTrans' is applied and
closed or resolved when the 'CommitTrans' or 'RollbackTrans' runs.

It may initially seem a little complex but it gives a full range of options
for managing the data and it allows the client to build large databases with
many users and only requires the purchase a few licenses/seats. (ie. 20
licenses and 100 users.)      

Using ADO makes is easy to switch or attach different data sources with
little effort. (In theory one line of code.) Even web applications can be
created leveraging the same methods. That is not totally true but given that
SQL versions are standardizing coupled with the use of Store
Procedures/Queries, with passing parameters, very few changes are needed. I
am still pacing around the XML pool but believe in the long run that is
where to go.

So there is the 'thumb-nail' sketch of the 'non-bounder' application
implementation methodology.

Jim   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 4:35 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

Jim,

My framework (the part that had to do with forms and controls) was indeed
aimed at bound forms.  However the concept works for unbound forms as well.
Indeed it would be even more critical to use a framework as you the
developer are doing so much of the work that Access was doing for you -
loading all of the data into the controls, checking for updates to the data
by other people before you wrote changes back to the table, writing the data
back from controls into fields in the tables, stuff like that.  All of that
code would be framework material.  Once written and stored in the framework,
the doing of it would be automatic by the framework.

If you are one of the unholy (unbounders) why don't you give a thumbnail
sketch of how you manage all of that work.  I will then brainstorm how I
would look at doing it in a framework.  Remember that the concept of a
framework is to make it as automatic as possible.  For example (in a bound
form) I have a form class and I have a class for each control type.  The
form class runs a control scanner, gets the control type of each control,
loads a class instance for each control found.  Once this is done, the form
class and control classes can work together to do tasks.  

As an example, I can literally just drop a pair of controls on the form, a
text box named RecID that exposes (is bound to) the PK (always an
autonumber) and an unbound combo called RecSel.  The names are specific and
if the control scanner finds this pair of controls it knows that a record
selector exists and runs the code.  The afterupdate of the combo by that
name calls a method of the parent form saying "move to recid XXXX".  The
column 0 of the combo is the PK of the record in the form so it knows the
PK.  The form's OnCurrent knows that it needs to keep the combo synced to
the displayed record in the form so it calls a method of the combo class
telling it to display the data relevant to the current record in the form.
Thus the form, the combo and a text box all work as a system to form a
record selector.  If the developer drops these two controls on the form he
"just has" a record selector.  Nothing else is required - other than binding
RecSel to the PK field and setting the combo's query to display the data and
get the PK of the records in the table.

As an unbounder, you need to think about how to achieve this kind of
"automaticness" in the things you do.  Naturally some tasks do require
feeding data into init() methods of classes to set the classes up to do
their job.  After that though the "systems" need to just work together.
Load the data into the unbound form / controls.  Store flags in each
control's class saying that control's data was modified.  Scan for all
controls with modified data and update the underlying data in the record.
Check for data changes in the data you are about to update and inform the
user that another user edited the record since you loaded the data.  Etc.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

Save a copy for me. It sounds like a good read...but I guess it only works
with bound forms.(?)

Jim 



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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 13 12:05:59 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:05:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB E-book
References: <0IJK005EDQJPG2@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <42D549F7.8090307@shaw.ca>

Got this today from my local dotnet usergroup in Victoria
http://www.vicdotnet.org

 Microsoft has been releasing a lot of .NET 2.0 and SQL Server 2005 
training resources
 over the last little while, gearing up for the release of both in November.

Here are a few of the highlights. These free offers have a decent retail 
value,
and are only available for free for a "limited" time (though we aren't 
exactly sure what that means):

Training Courses
ASP.NET:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/learn/asptraining/

Visual Studio 2005:
 https://www.microsoftelearning.com/visualstudio2005/

SQL Server 2005:
https://www.microsoftelearning.com/sqlserver2005/

Free VB.NET 2005 ebook:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/whidbey/introto2005/
   22.5 Meg download

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 13 12:15:29 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:15:29 -0700
Subject: OT: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB
	E-book
In-Reply-To: <42D549F7.8090307@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <0IJK00A6ZT9QEQ@l-daemon>

Hi Marty:

Have we ever met? My daughter's boy-friend, another geek and my self have
regularly attended the dotnet usergroup meetings and have never heard you
name bandied about.

Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB E-book

Got this today from my local dotnet usergroup in Victoria
http://www.vicdotnet.org

 Microsoft has been releasing a lot of .NET 2.0 and SQL Server 2005 
training resources
 over the last little while, gearing up for the release of both in November.

Here are a few of the highlights. These free offers have a decent retail 
value,
and are only available for free for a "limited" time (though we aren't 
exactly sure what that means):

Training Courses
ASP.NET:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/learn/asptraining/

Visual Studio 2005:
 https://www.microsoftelearning.com/visualstudio2005/

SQL Server 2005:
https://www.microsoftelearning.com/sqlserver2005/

Free VB.NET 2005 ebook:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/whidbey/introto2005/
   22.5 Meg download

http://www.vicdotnet.org

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From Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com  Wed Jul 13 12:34:03 2005
From: Rich_Lavsa at pghcorning.com (Lavsa, Rich)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:34:03 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables
Message-ID: <2A261FF9D5EBCA46940C11688CE872EE01E96A1B@goexchange2.pghcorning.com>

I tried the DistinctRow and checked to see if it was updateable.  

I did do testing on a statement that returns no records to delete and
yes I agree that it simply exits without error.  However I noticed that
in those cases if you did a view datasheet you saw a single blank
record, and in the case where I get an error I get no record at all..
Just the titles of the fields.  

After typing the above comments I thought of something...
The subquery is actually querying a stored procedure, which is not
updatable.  So I simulated that query using Linked Tables to SQL Server
which seemed to do the trick.

So from this I gather that the subquery must be updateable as well, of
which I do not understand as it is reading order no's from a different
database just to be used as criteria for the delete query.  If it is
only being used as criteria, why would it need to be updateable as
well??

I open to suggestions.

Rich


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mcgillivray,
Don [ITS]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


A delete query against an empty recordset simply exits without error.
"DELETE * FROM tblMyTable WHERE tblMyTable.MyField = 2;" simply runs and
exits if there are no MyFields in tblMyTable with values equal to 2.  No
error.  I'd say that Doris's suspicion that the recordset is
non-updateable is the more likely cause of Chester's problem.

You may want to re-visit your code to ensure that you're not missing
some other circumstance that is causing your delete queries to fail.

Don

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lavsa, Rich
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:40 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


I've recently had this very error 3086.  I found no suggestions to my
solution however came to realize that there was no records being
returned thus causing the error, or so I believed this to be my cause.
Because I call this query from code, I captured this error and exit the
sub without any issues.

To find out if you are returning any records, open the query in design
mode then simply click on the "Datasheet View", this will show you what
your results will be, but will not execute the delete command.

Anyone else have any similar experiences with a delete query.  My delete
query contained a sub-query and was not doing any joins.

Rich 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables


It is highly possible that with the joined tables, you've created a
non-updatable query.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Thanks for the suggestion but I still get a message cannot delete from
specified tables. I don't understand why since this a stand alone
database on my local computer (C drive).

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

Try

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:32 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Cannot delete from specified tables

When I try to run the sql below I get the message cannot delete from
specified tables. The tables are native to a stand alone access DB. I
have tried many combinations but still no luck.

 

DELETE [tbl Allocations].*, [tbl Allocations].SourceNAME, [tbl
Allocations].TargetPID

FROM [tbl Allocations] INNER JOIN [tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table] ON ([tbl Allocations].TargetPID = [tbl Patterns to
delete from Allocation table].TargetPID) AND ([tbl
Allocations].SourceNAME = [tbl Patterns to delete from Allocation
table].SourceNAME)

WHERE ((([tbl Allocations].SourceNAME)=[tbl Patterns to delete from
Allocation table]![SourceNAME]) AND (([tbl Allocations].TargetPID)=[tbl
Patterns to delete from Allocation table]![TargetPID]));

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jul 13 12:38:52 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:38:52 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and
	VB E-book
Message-ID: <s2d56dda.049@cactus.dk>

Hi Marty

Thanks!

"Microsoft E-Learning for Visual Studio 2005 is free until November 8,
2005"

/gustav

>>> martyconnelly at shaw.ca 07/13 7:05 pm >>>
Got this today from my local dotnet usergroup in Victoria
http://www.vicdotnet.org 

Microsoft has been releasing a lot of .NET 2.0 and SQL Server 2005
training resources  over the last little while, gearing up for the
release of both in November.

Here are a few of the highlights. These free offers have a decent
retail value, and are only available for free for a "limited" time
(though we aren't 
exactly sure what that means):

Training Courses
ASP.NET:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/learn/asptraining/ 

Visual Studio 2005:
 https://www.microsoftelearning.com/visualstudio2005/ 

SQL Server 2005:
https://www.microsoftelearning.com/sqlserver2005/ 

Free VB.NET 2005 ebook:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/whidbey/introto2005/ 
   22.5 Meg download

http://www.vicdotnet.org 

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Victoria, B.C.
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 13 12:48:00 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:48:00 -0700
Subject: OT: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB
	E-book
References: <0IJK00A6ZT9QEQ@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <42D553D0.3030302@shaw.ca>

I have only been to a couple, I found the last one a bit torpid, so I 
snuck out
and went back to the grad pub to talk to a couple of profs about Fast 
Fourier ADPCM methods
use with speech and video storage for records mangement, found out there 
are some new optical
disks (write once) coming out next year or 2007 that hold a terabyte via 
holographic methods. It was more
informative to me. Maybe I am just a weirder duck.

Jim Lawrence wrote:

>Hi Marty:
>
>Have we ever met? My daughter's boy-friend, another geek and my self have
>regularly attended the dotnet usergroup meetings and have never heard you
>name bandied about.
>
>Jim  
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:06 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB E-book
>
>Got this today from my local dotnet usergroup in Victoria
>http://www.vicdotnet.org
>
> Microsoft has been releasing a lot of .NET 2.0 and SQL Server 2005 
>training resources
> over the last little while, gearing up for the release of both in November.
>
>Here are a few of the highlights. These free offers have a decent retail 
>value,
>and are only available for free for a "limited" time (though we aren't 
>exactly sure what that means):
>
>Training Courses
>ASP.NET:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/learn/asptraining/
>
>Visual Studio 2005:
> https://www.microsoftelearning.com/visualstudio2005/
>
>SQL Server 2005:
>https://www.microsoftelearning.com/sqlserver2005/
>
>Free VB.NET 2005 ebook:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/whidbey/introto2005/
>   22.5 Meg download
>
>http://www.vicdotnet.org
>
>  
>

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 13 13:04:14 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:04:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB
	E-book
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C15267@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABECDF@ADGSERVER>

Here's another freebie book: 

Upgrading Microsoft Visual Basic 6.0 to Microsoft Visual Basic .NET
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbrun/staythepath/additionalresources/upgradingvb6
/

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 1:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB E-book


Got this today from my local dotnet usergroup in Victoria
http://www.vicdotnet.org

 Microsoft has been releasing a lot of .NET 2.0 and SQL Server 2005 
training resources
 over the last little while, gearing up for the release of both in November.

Here are a few of the highlights. These free offers have a decent retail 
value,
and are only available for free for a "limited" time (though we aren't 
exactly sure what that means):

Training Courses
ASP.NET:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/learn/asptraining/

Visual Studio 2005:
 https://www.microsoftelearning.com/visualstudio2005/

SQL Server 2005:
https://www.microsoftelearning.com/sqlserver2005/

Free VB.NET 2005 ebook:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/whidbey/introto2005/
   22.5 Meg download

http://www.vicdotnet.org

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



From KIsmert at texassystems.com  Wed Jul 13 17:58:21 2005
From: KIsmert at texassystems.com (Ken Ismert)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:58:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
Message-ID: <B7C87D3ABC87FC4E8CFE054CE2E8868A0D37E9@aries.TexasSystems.local>


(Jim Dettman)
<<There was a discussion long ago on this very point; why there were not
more frameworks available for Access . . . I see that other developers
have come up with things to solve the very same problems (PK generation,
pick lists, calendars, etc).  I'm still scratching my head as to why.>>

A fundamental barrier is the lack of an easy way to distribute true
components for use in Access. Any framework library built entirely in
Access lacks a reliable way to share objects with its clients. For
Office 2000 and later, the Office Add-In was touted by Microsoft as a
way of building components for the Office Suite. But it suffers from the
same object-sharing drawbacks as libraries, and because of its extremely
limited distribution, has generated very little interest from the Access
developer community. 

The core technical limitation centers around Access and its use of COM.
Access uses Project Compatibility for generating the GUIDs required for
identifying objects and their interfaces. Project Compatibility means
the object IDs are private to the project, and are re-generated each
time you fully-compile the project. That produces behavior noted before
in this group: when you reference the library in an MDB, and compile
them together, you can share objects, because Project Compatibility
enforces consistency between the two. But, if you open the library
separately, and save changes, the MDB referencing it will break, because
all the old object IDs have been replaced in the new library.

The way out of this dilemma is to build a Type Library, or TLB file. The
TLB is a separate file which provides a stand-alone, unchanging
definition of the objects and interfaces to be shared between the MDB
and the library. Both the MDB and library reference the TLB, and use it
when declaring shared objects. This way, the library can be updated
independently of the MDB, shared between multiple MDBs, and distributed
to third parties. The TLB is the key ingredient that enables reliable
object sharing. 

The catch is, you can't make a Type Library in Access. You would need a
copy of Visual Basic or Visual Studio to get the utilities required do
that task. Because a large number of Access developers don't have these
tools, you have not seen any significant number of distributed
frameworks built entirely in Access. 

-Ken


From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jul 13 19:24:13 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:24:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
Message-ID: <000a01c5880a$5d8d77d0$6601a8c0@user>

Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

TIA
Kath


From robert at servicexp.com  Wed Jul 13 19:42:38 2005
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:42:38 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
Message-ID: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4EDB@gbsserver.GBS.local>

 

All I know is that I have been waiting an awful long time for this
book...... :-)

Robert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:01 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

Around the end of last year, I started rewriting my framework for the
third time, in fact I now call it C2DbFW3G meaning 3rd generation.  It
is Access2K or better - A97 not supported mostly because I use
RaiseEvents which are unsupported in A97.  This version is still not
fully fleshed out simply because I have ported (rewritten) the old 2nd
generation framework piece by piece as I needed the modules, and I
haven't needed the form / control stuff that I had in the 2G version.  

SNIP


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 13 19:49:11 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:49:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B12@infoserver01.infostat.local>

There was a thread on this sometime last year for Access 2002.  It gets
ugly because the code to check the references has to be the first thing
run and it has to be written so that it works even if there are broken
references.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 5:24 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case
Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to
remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

TIA
Kath
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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jul 13 19:56:39 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:56:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
In-Reply-To: <000a01c5880a$5d8d77d0$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <200507140056.j6E0ukR3116346@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>

Have you considered late binding?

John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:24 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed

Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case
Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to
remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

TIA
Kath
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jul 13 19:57:16 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:57:16 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B12@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <002901c5880e$fab20ea0$6601a8c0@user>

Thanks Charlotte - there is quite a bit on the archive - I'll make my way through it....

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Charlotte Foust 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:49 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


  There was a thread on this sometime last year for Access 2002.  It gets
  ugly because the code to check the references has to be the first thing
  run and it has to be written so that it works even if there are broken
  references.

  Charlotte Foust


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 5:24 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


  Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case
  Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

  I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to
  remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

  TIA
  Kath
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul 13 20:03:40 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:03:40 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B12@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20050714010356.EQDI7514.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Yes, we discussed this at length. My written response to it all appeared in
Inside Microsoft Access -- the Feb 2005 issue. Ken Ismert helped me write
it. Kath, I'm sending you a copy draft privately. I hope you find something
to help. 

Susan H. 

There was a thread on this sometime last year for Access 2002.  It gets ugly
because the code to check the references has to be the first thing run and
it has to be written so that it works even if there are broken references.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 5:24 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case
Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to
remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

TIA
Kath
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jul 13 20:04:56 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:04:56 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <0IJJ00F1DZCXNY@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000201c58810$10145770$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I suppose you could pester Wrox about it if you think it would be a book you
would buy.  Maybe forward this to email to Jim Minatel at JMinatel at wiley.com
with your personal experiences and opinions re the lack of good advanced
books for the Access / office arena.  I tried to tell them that I quit
buying new books ages ago because I just wasn't learning anything new from
them.  Maybe if they heard it from members of this list, developers who
actually do this for a living, they might decide there is indeed a market.
I know we don't have thousands of list members but we do represent a large
market segment.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

Save a copy for me. It sounds like a good read...but I guess it only works
with bound forms.(?)

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

Around the end of last year, I started rewriting my framework for the third
time, in fact I now call it C2DbFW3G meaning 3rd generation.  It is Access2K
or better - A97 not supported mostly because I use RaiseEvents which are
unsupported in A97.  This version is still not fully fleshed out simply
because I have ported (rewritten) the old 2nd generation framework piece by
piece as I needed the modules, and I haven't needed the form / control stuff
that I had in the 2G version.  

In fact I started on it because of a project that is generating reports for
a client.  The application is a report system for a call center for short
term disability insurance.  I (re)wrote the call center software from
scratch but the reporting stuff kinda sorta worked and I never rewrote it
from scratch.  The insurance company that hires my client to do the call
center is completely changing THEIR software, which now supports completely
automated data feeds.  

In the past, my system generated Word documents with "new claim notices" and
"advise to pay" notices.  These reports were generated automatically and
attached to emails to the insurer, where they were opened and keyed in to
the system.  Because it was always done that way!  Sigh.

It always sucked, errors on their end keying in the reports etc.

So... Since the new system takes an automated feed, fixed width fields, text
files, FTPd to a site where it is opened and loaded in to the system
automatically, I had the opportunity to rebuild this reporting thing from
scratch.

The kinds of framework things I needed for this application were distinctly
different from the framework things I needed for a typical form based data
entry / call center application.  At the same time, entire pieces are pretty
similar or even identical.  So I yanked the useful classes and code other
than form / control stuff from the 2G framework, took the opportunity to
clean it up a LOT, and "started from scratch", although not exactly as I
have intimated.  The result is a lot cleaner, even more heavily class based,
and uses a "service plug-in" concept.

A framework is really about providing services to an application.  These
services may be clearly a service, such as logging to text files, zipping /
unzipping files, encryption etc., or they may be less clearly a service,
such as a form class that loads control classes that provide record
selectors, JIT subforms, OpenArgs etc.  In the end though, even these are
just services to an application.  What I am trying very hard to do this time
is set up the framework to allow plug-in services where the service is
loaded if it is needed, with a "socket" kind of interface - at least for the
non-form based services.  

Things like SysVars, Zip/Unzip, logging etc are really easy to do this with.
The classes exist and if the application wants a logger it asks for one.  It
is stored in a collection keyed by name and the app can then use it by
calling a .log method of the framework, passing the name of the logger and
the text to log.  If a logger by that name isn't loaded, it loads and then
stores the text that needs to be stored in the log file.

Like that.

It turns out that a log file like that works well for these NCN and ATP
reports.  The application asks for an NCN log, gathers the data and builds
up the fixed width field strings.  When each string (NCN or ATP record) is
finished, the app just writes it to the log file.  When all the records are
written to the log file, the file is emailed or FTPd as desired.  The log
and the email or FTP is just a service.  The APPLICATION has to build ATP
and NCN reports, but it just asks the framework for a log and when the log
is done, asks the framework to email or FTP the log somewhere.

Services.  Neat stuff and lots of fun to do.  

As for the book, well... I have worked on a couple of books for Wrox, but
they gave a lukewarm reception to the idea of this stuff written into a
book.  I am just "doing it myself" and will then pitch it when it is closer
to written.  Sometimes the powers that be just don't "get" what you want to
do.  Or maybe it just won't sell and I'll be sitting on a years worth of
writing.  I have never seen a book like this for the Access arena so I just
want to do it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:53 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


Ahhh, I can finally stop holding my breath! I threw my poor excuse of an
answer out there just to keep this thread alive, I had a feeling you had
this done in classes and I was just waiting for you to describe how you did
it. :o)

So your writing a book on it all! Can you feed some chapters out on it for
proof reading purposes or something?

John B.

<snip>




From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jul 13 20:14:45 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:14:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
References: <200507140056.j6E0ukR3116346@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <001e01c58811$6be97250$6601a8c0@user>

John - I've never used it. BUT it may be the solution to this case as only some of my users *have* Frontpage installed at all.

I'm a bit scared of the speed issues, but how do In convert code below to use late binding instaed?

Kath

Private Sub CmdOpenFP_Click()

Dim oFPweb As FrontPage.Web
Dim oFP As FrontPage.Application
Dim FrontPageRunning As Boolean

'Determine whether FrontPage is already open or not
FrontPageRunning = IsFrontPageRunning()

If Not FrontPageRunning Then
    Set oFP = CreateObject("Frontpage.Application")
Else
    Set oFP = GetObject(, "Frontpage.Application")
End If

'add code here later to make a copy of my file

'open file in front page------------------------------------------------
oFP.Webs.Open ("E:/Sds/Clients/CPP/Webletters/template.html") 
 ' Show FrontPage
 oFPweb.Activate
 'Set oFP = Nothing

End Sub
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Bartow 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:56 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


  Have you considered late binding?

  John B.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:24 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed

  Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case
  Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

  I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to
  remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

  TIA
  Kath
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From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jul 13 21:40:24 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:40:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
In-Reply-To: <001e01c58811$6be97250$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <200507140240.j6E2eV8s323538@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>

Kath,
Speed shouldn't be a big deal. I use late binding with Word and it doesn't
seem to take any longer than earlier binding plus it works with all versions
of word. I say seems because to be clock ticks are not as important as user
impression. Give them the hourglass at the start of the routine and turn if
on and off a few times. Builds hope :o)

Here's an article from our newsletter that explains it quite well:
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newsletters/newsletter072002/0207wordautomat
ionlpt1.htm

It really should be fairly easy after you browse that.

HTH
John B. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed

John - I've never used it. BUT it may be the solution to this case as only
some of my users *have* Frontpage installed at all.

I'm a bit scared of the speed issues, but how do In convert code below to
use late binding instaed?

Kath

Private Sub CmdOpenFP_Click()

Dim oFPweb As FrontPage.Web
Dim oFP As FrontPage.Application
Dim FrontPageRunning As Boolean

'Determine whether FrontPage is already open or not FrontPageRunning =
IsFrontPageRunning()

If Not FrontPageRunning Then
    Set oFP = CreateObject("Frontpage.Application")
Else
    Set oFP = GetObject(, "Frontpage.Application") End If

'add code here later to make a copy of my file

'open file in front page------------------------------------------------
oFP.Webs.Open ("E:/Sds/Clients/CPP/Webletters/template.html")
 ' Show FrontPage
 oFPweb.Activate
 'Set oFP = Nothing

End Sub
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: John Bartow
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:56 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


  Have you considered late binding?

  John B.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:24 PM
  To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
  Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed

  Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case
  Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

  I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to
  remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

  TIA
  Kath
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Wed Jul 13 23:13:35 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:13:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <000201c58810$10145770$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <20050714041334.RYLD16323.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Wrox no longer exists. They went bankrupt owing me money. :( 

Susan H. 

I suppose you could pester Wrox about it if you think it would be a book you
would buy.  Maybe 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jul 13 23:29:23 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:29:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <0IJK005EDQJPG2@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <000001c5882c$9f82dfa0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

OK, bear with me since I am new to this unbound (but data aware) form
business.

Forms have a recordset correct, just not bound to one.
Controls on each form are created manually and the named.  The corresponding
field is set how?  IOW how is the control made aware of the data that it is
unbound to.  Do you (currently) use classes for this at all?  

Off the top of my head, I see a need to load a class instance for each
control, which will hold the field name that the control loads data from and
writes changes back to.  A "dirty" variable to indicate that the control
(data) has been modified.  The form class then has a control scanner that
loads a control instance for each control discovered on the form.  

The form init will init the form class, then go back and initialize each
control with the field name that it is unbound to.  The form class knows how
to read data and then iterates the control classes pushing in data values to
the control class, which in turn pushes the value in to the control.  Or the
control class just uses the control as the structure that holds the data
value.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but unbound controls don't manipulate the
OldValue property the way that bound controls do, correct?  Thus the control
class needs to store the value into an OldVal variable in the control class.


What events work correctly with unbound forms and controls, and which events
do not fire or exhibit issues due to the unboundness?  IOW it seems that a
form BeforeUpdate / AfterUpdate etc simply wouldn't fire since there is no
bound recordset to monitor.  What about controls?  Is there any
documentation anywhere that discusses the event differences between bound
and unbound forms and controls?  My bound object classes sink the events for
the object that they represent and can (and do) run code in those events.  I
need to know the differences between bound object events and unbound object
events.

I actually have a tiny little form (8 controls or so) that I need to take
unbound to eliminate locking issues that I simply cannot resolve with the
bound version.

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

The methods I have used were designed about eight years ago and have
copied/improved again and again. Here are the basics and a step by step
methodology:
1. I always use ADO-OLE. (One exception is MySQL... a bit of a pain. If
someone could figure out a method that would not require a station by
station visit to install the MySQL ODBC drivers I would be for ever
indebted.)
2. The forms and subforms are populated as the user moves through the
records and but until the user actually changes field content on a form or
attempts to delete the current record, the recordset used to feed the form
is static. 3. a) A record or group of records in the case of a subform being
displayed, are first pulled into a recordset, and content are then used to
populate the form collection. In theory the record exists in three places.  
b) If there is a change of deletion request the recordset is locked by
creating a dynamic recordset with record-lock attribute.
c) If an 'already locked' error occurs when this lock is being applied then
the user is informed of the condition and given the appropriate options.
d) When using a 'real' :-) SQL DB (MS SQL/Oracle etc.) much of the record
handling is managed internally as soon as the 'BeginTrans' is applied and
closed or resolved when the 'CommitTrans' or 'RollbackTrans' runs.

It may initially seem a little complex but it gives a full range of options
for managing the data and it allows the client to build large databases with
many users and only requires the purchase a few licenses/seats. (ie. 20
licenses and 100 users.)      

Using ADO makes is easy to switch or attach different data sources with
little effort. (In theory one line of code.) Even web applications can be
created leveraging the same methods. That is not totally true but given that
SQL versions are standardizing coupled with the use of Store
Procedures/Queries, with passing parameters, very few changes are needed. I
am still pacing around the XML pool but believe in the long run that is
where to go.

So there is the 'thumb-nail' sketch of the 'non-bounder' application
implementation methodology.

Jim   

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 4:35 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

Jim,

My framework (the part that had to do with forms and controls) was indeed
aimed at bound forms.  However the concept works for unbound forms as well.
Indeed it would be even more critical to use a framework as you the
developer are doing so much of the work that Access was doing for you -
loading all of the data into the controls, checking for updates to the data
by other people before you wrote changes back to the table, writing the data
back from controls into fields in the tables, stuff like that.  All of that
code would be framework material.  Once written and stored in the framework,
the doing of it would be automatic by the framework.

If you are one of the unholy (unbounders) why don't you give a thumbnail
sketch of how you manage all of that work.  I will then brainstorm how I
would look at doing it in a framework.  Remember that the concept of a
framework is to make it as automatic as possible.  For example (in a bound
form) I have a form class and I have a class for each control type.  The
form class runs a control scanner, gets the control type of each control,
loads a class instance for each control found.  Once this is done, the form
class and control classes can work together to do tasks.  

As an example, I can literally just drop a pair of controls on the form, a
text box named RecID that exposes (is bound to) the PK (always an
autonumber) and an unbound combo called RecSel.  The names are specific and
if the control scanner finds this pair of controls it knows that a record
selector exists and runs the code.  The afterupdate of the combo by that
name calls a method of the parent form saying "move to recid XXXX".  The
column 0 of the combo is the PK of the record in the form so it knows the
PK.  The form's OnCurrent knows that it needs to keep the combo synced to
the displayed record in the form so it calls a method of the combo class
telling it to display the data relevant to the current record in the form.
Thus the form, the combo and a text box all work as a system to form a
record selector.  If the developer drops these two controls on the form he
"just has" a record selector.  Nothing else is required - other than binding
RecSel to the PK field and setting the combo's query to display the data and
get the PK of the records in the table.

As an unbounder, you need to think about how to achieve this kind of
"automaticness" in the things you do.  Naturally some tasks do require
feeding data into init() methods of classes to set the classes up to do
their job.  After that though the "systems" need to just work together. Load
the data into the unbound form / controls.  Store flags in each control's
class saying that control's data was modified.  Scan for all controls with
modified data and update the underlying data in the record. Check for data
changes in the data you are about to update and inform the user that another
user edited the record since you loaded the data.  Etc.

John W. Colby
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

Save a copy for me. It sounds like a good read...but I guess it only works
with bound forms.(?)

Jim 



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jul 13 23:31:13 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:31:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <20050714041334.RYLD16323.ibm59aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <000101c5882c$de51d290$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Not true, many of the assets (specific book titles) were purchased by Wiley,
including the Wrox name.  The last book I worked on was published by Wiley
but under the Wrox moniker.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:14 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Wrox no longer exists. They went bankrupt owing me money. :( 

Susan H. 

I suppose you could pester Wrox about it if you think it would be a book you
would buy.  Maybe 

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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 14 01:31:57 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:31:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
References: <B7C87D3ABC87FC4E8CFE054CE2E8868A0D37E9@aries.TexasSystems.local>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV6FE4CFAAA59F76DC14EFCAED10@phx.gbl>

"You would need a copy of Visual Basic or Visual Studio to get the utilities 
required do
that task. Because a large number of Access developers don't have these 
tools, you have not seen any significant number of distributed frameworks 
built entirely in Access." Ken

..for the first time it suddenly dawns on me that packaging the Access 2003 
Developer Tools with VB.Net/Visual Studio might actually have made some kind 
of sense ...I'd just assumed it was another MS ploy to force me to buy stuff 
I had no intention of ever using just to get the old ODE goodies :(

William

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 6:58 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


>
> (Jim Dettman)
> <<There was a discussion long ago on this very point; why there were not
> more frameworks available for Access . . . I see that other developers
> have come up with things to solve the very same problems (PK generation,
> pick lists, calendars, etc).  I'm still scratching my head as to why.>>
>
> A fundamental barrier is the lack of an easy way to distribute true
> components for use in Access. Any framework library built entirely in
> Access lacks a reliable way to share objects with its clients. For
> Office 2000 and later, the Office Add-In was touted by Microsoft as a
> way of building components for the Office Suite. But it suffers from the
> same object-sharing drawbacks as libraries, and because of its extremely
> limited distribution, has generated very little interest from the Access
> developer community.
>
> The core technical limitation centers around Access and its use of COM.
> Access uses Project Compatibility for generating the GUIDs required for
> identifying objects and their interfaces. Project Compatibility means
> the object IDs are private to the project, and are re-generated each
> time you fully-compile the project. That produces behavior noted before
> in this group: when you reference the library in an MDB, and compile
> them together, you can share objects, because Project Compatibility
> enforces consistency between the two. But, if you open the library
> separately, and save changes, the MDB referencing it will break, because
> all the old object IDs have been replaced in the new library.
>
> The way out of this dilemma is to build a Type Library, or TLB file. The
> TLB is a separate file which provides a stand-alone, unchanging
> definition of the objects and interfaces to be shared between the MDB
> and the library. Both the MDB and library reference the TLB, and use it
> when declaring shared objects. This way, the library can be updated
> independently of the MDB, shared between multiple MDBs, and distributed
> to third parties. The TLB is the key ingredient that enables reliable
> object sharing.
>
> The catch is, you can't make a Type Library in Access. You would need a
> copy of Visual Basic or Visual Studio to get the utilities required do
> that task. Because a large number of Access developers don't have these
> tools, you have not seen any significant number of distributed
> frameworks built entirely in Access.
>
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Jul 14 03:42:18 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:42:18 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed
References: <200507140240.j6E2eV8s323538@pimout2-ext.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <005601c5884f$f6547050$6601a8c0@user>

<<.....plus it works with all versions
That part sounds good....the most frustrating aspect of being an access /vba developer has to be the fragility of the systems. Compared to writing mainframe applications, I still find this the trickiest aspect. The user changes something on the PC and crash goes the application. So this is something I need to learn. Thanks.
Kath
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  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 12:40 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


  Kath,
  Speed shouldn't be a big deal. I use late binding with Word and it doesn't
  seem to take any longer than earlier binding plus it works with all versions
  of word. I say seems because to be clock ticks are not as important as user
  impression. Give them the hourglass at the start of the routine and turn if
  on and off a few times. Builds hope :o)

  Here's an article from our newsletter that explains it quite well:
  http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newsletters/newsletter072002/0207wordautomat
  ionlpt1.htm

  It really should be fairly easy after you browse that.

  HTH
  John B. 

  -----Original Message-----
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  [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:15 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed

  John - I've never used it. BUT it may be the solution to this case as only
  some of my users *have* Frontpage installed at all.

  I'm a bit scared of the speed issues, but how do In convert code below to
  use late binding instaed?

  Kath

  Private Sub CmdOpenFP_Click()

  Dim oFPweb As FrontPage.Web
  Dim oFP As FrontPage.Application
  Dim FrontPageRunning As Boolean

  'Determine whether FrontPage is already open or not FrontPageRunning =
  IsFrontPageRunning()

  If Not FrontPageRunning Then
      Set oFP = CreateObject("Frontpage.Application")
  Else
      Set oFP = GetObject(, "Frontpage.Application") End If

  'add code here later to make a copy of my file

  'open file in front page------------------------------------------------
  oFP.Webs.Open ("E:/Sds/Clients/CPP/Webletters/template.html")
   ' Show FrontPage
   oFPweb.Activate
   'Set oFP = Nothing

  End Sub
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: John Bartow
    To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
    Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:56 AM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed


    Have you considered late binding?

    John B.

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    From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
    Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:24 PM
    To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
    Subject: [AccessD] Create reference only when needed

    Can someone tell mew how to set a reference to a program (in this case
    Frontpage) only if the user has the software installed.

    I have an app that crashed because of missing references, so I want to
    remove them and set them using code when / if needed.

    TIA
    Kath
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Jul 14 06:47:18 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 07:47:18 -0400
Subject: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <s2d618ba.085@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

Sorry that I didn't reply to this Rusty. I was cleaning out my Junk mail
folder and noticed it somehow got sent into there...don't you feel
special? I don't usually even look in here, but I am expecting a quote
on some Cisco equipment from a new vendor, and being new they sometimes
get put in there. Ya just gotta love how the spammers have created a
mess for us.

Anyhow, I don't know where they get the drug list. I am assumming that,
because we are a govt. agency, that it probably comes from the state
(NY) or medicaid (more probable). I did this as a favor for my
co-worker, who is out this week, and I don't know who she was speaking
with, so I can't check w/them. If you would like, I could look into it
next week for you.

Take care!

John W Clark

>>> <rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com> 7/8/2005 10:07:21 AM >>>
John, you mentioned they get a monthly update of their drug list.  Do
you
know where they are getting this drug list and what the cost is?  I'm
working on an app that requires a drug list.

Thanks,

Rusty Hammond


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] "Like" operator help


I really didn't want to use a form...this is just a simple table (i.e.
not a whole program) that our nursing department will use...they get
an
update monthly (I think it is) and just want to quickly access any
given
drug. But, I did think a form may be the answer, so I whipped up a
quick
litte one. One the form I've got a text box (Text0) and a label
(Text2)...I'm just playing right now, so the names are defaults. On
the "On Change" property of Text0, I've got a statment that says
Text2.Caption = "Like '" & Text0.Text & "*'" 

This is working fine in the label, as it is showing up the way I want
it...although I just noticed that I only have single quotes...hmmmm. I
bet if I can get double quote in there it works.

Right now, if I put "t" into Text0, I see: Like 't*' in Text2,
and in the query I have [Forms]![enterfrm]![Text2] in the criteria
section. This little bugger is turning out to be...well...a little
bugger ;(

>>> pharold at proftesting.com 7/8/2005 9:32 AM >>>
Append the global "*" to whatever is the value entered (as a string)
with the "&" character and then submit to the query.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s
are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

John W Clark
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Thu Jul 14 07:36:26 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:36:26 -0400
Subject: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FBEC@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Isn't working for the government cool?  Here is a link to download the
drug information released by the FDA:

http://www.fda.gov/cder/ndc/index.htm 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:47 AM
To: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

Sorry that I didn't reply to this Rusty. I was cleaning out my Junk mail
folder and noticed it somehow got sent into there...don't you feel
special? I don't usually even look in here, but I am expecting a quote
on some Cisco equipment from a new vendor, and being new they sometimes
get put in there. Ya just gotta love how the spammers have created a
mess for us.

Anyhow, I don't know where they get the drug list. I am assumming that,
because we are a govt. agency, that it probably comes from the state
(NY) or medicaid (more probable). I did this as a favor for my
co-worker, who is out this week, and I don't know who she was speaking
with, so I can't check w/them. If you would like, I could look into it
next week for you.

Take care!

John W Clark

>>> <rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com> 7/8/2005 10:07:21 AM >>>
John, you mentioned they get a monthly update of their drug list.  Do
you know where they are getting this drug list and what the cost is?
I'm working on an app that requires a drug list.

Thanks,

Rusty Hammond


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] "Like" operator help


I really didn't want to use a form...this is just a simple table (i.e.
not a whole program) that our nursing department will use...they get an
update monthly (I think it is) and just want to quickly access any given
drug. But, I did think a form may be the answer, so I whipped up a quick
litte one. One the form I've got a text box (Text0) and a label
(Text2)...I'm just playing right now, so the names are defaults. On the
"On Change" property of Text0, I've got a statment that says
Text2.Caption = "Like '" & Text0.Text & "*'" 

This is working fine in the label, as it is showing up the way I want
it...although I just noticed that I only have single quotes...hmmmm. I
bet if I can get double quote in there it works.

Right now, if I put "t" into Text0, I see: Like 't*' in Text2, and in
the query I have [Forms]![enterfrm]![Text2] in the criteria section.
This little bugger is turning out to be...well...a little bugger ;(

>>> pharold at proftesting.com 7/8/2005 9:32 AM >>>
Append the global "*" to whatever is the value entered (as a string)
with the "&" character and then submit to the query.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Thu Jul 14 09:06:35 2005
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:06:35 -0500
Subject: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <8301C8A868251E4C8ECD3D4FFEA40F8A154F807E@cpixchng-1.cpiqpc.net>

John, thanks for the reply but I think the link Karen provided is going to
work for me.

Thanks Karen.



-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help


Isn't working for the government cool?  Here is a link to download the
drug information released by the FDA:

http://www.fda.gov/cder/ndc/index.htm 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:47 AM
To: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

Sorry that I didn't reply to this Rusty. I was cleaning out my Junk mail
folder and noticed it somehow got sent into there...don't you feel
special? I don't usually even look in here, but I am expecting a quote
on some Cisco equipment from a new vendor, and being new they sometimes
get put in there. Ya just gotta love how the spammers have created a
mess for us.

Anyhow, I don't know where they get the drug list. I am assumming that,
because we are a govt. agency, that it probably comes from the state
(NY) or medicaid (more probable). I did this as a favor for my
co-worker, who is out this week, and I don't know who she was speaking
with, so I can't check w/them. If you would like, I could look into it
next week for you.

Take care!

John W Clark

>>> <rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com> 7/8/2005 10:07:21 AM >>>
John, you mentioned they get a monthly update of their drug list.  Do
you know where they are getting this drug list and what the cost is?
I'm working on an app that requires a drug list.

Thanks,

Rusty Hammond


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] "Like" operator help


I really didn't want to use a form...this is just a simple table (i.e.
not a whole program) that our nursing department will use...they get an
update monthly (I think it is) and just want to quickly access any given
drug. But, I did think a form may be the answer, so I whipped up a quick
litte one. One the form I've got a text box (Text0) and a label
(Text2)...I'm just playing right now, so the names are defaults. On the
"On Change" property of Text0, I've got a statment that says
Text2.Caption = "Like '" & Text0.Text & "*'" 

This is working fine in the label, as it is showing up the way I want
it...although I just noticed that I only have single quotes...hmmmm. I
bet if I can get double quote in there it works.

Right now, if I put "t" into Text0, I see: Like 't*' in Text2, and in
the query I have [Forms]![enterfrm]![Text2] in the criteria section.
This little bugger is turning out to be...well...a little bugger ;(

>>> pharold at proftesting.com 7/8/2005 9:32 AM >>>
Append the global "*" to whatever is the value entered (as a string)
with the "&" character and then submit to the query.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Jul 14 10:24:03 2005
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:24:03 -0400
Subject: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help
Message-ID: <s2d64b82.022@nebnov3.niagaracounty.com>

In some ways yes, but in many other ways no

Thanks for covering this link!

>>> cyx5 at cdc.gov 7/14/2005 8:36:26 AM >>>
Isn't working for the government cool?  Here is a link to download the
drug information released by the FDA:

http://www.fda.gov/cder/ndc/index.htm 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:47 AM
To: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com; accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: FW: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

Sorry that I didn't reply to this Rusty. I was cleaning out my Junk
mail
folder and noticed it somehow got sent into there...don't you feel
special? I don't usually even look in here, but I am expecting a quote
on some Cisco equipment from a new vendor, and being new they
sometimes
get put in there. Ya just gotta love how the spammers have created a
mess for us.

Anyhow, I don't know where they get the drug list. I am assumming
that,
because we are a govt. agency, that it probably comes from the state
(NY) or medicaid (more probable). I did this as a favor for my
co-worker, who is out this week, and I don't know who she was speaking
with, so I can't check w/them. If you would like, I could look into it
next week for you.

Take care!

John W Clark

>>> <rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com> 7/8/2005 10:07:21 AM >>>
John, you mentioned they get a monthly update of their drug list.  Do
you know where they are getting this drug list and what the cost is?
I'm working on an app that requires a drug list.

Thanks,

Rusty Hammond


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark [mailto:John.Clark at niagaracounty.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: RE: [AccessD] "Like" operator help


I really didn't want to use a form...this is just a simple table (i.e.
not a whole program) that our nursing department will use...they get
an
update monthly (I think it is) and just want to quickly access any
given
drug. But, I did think a form may be the answer, so I whipped up a
quick
litte one. One the form I've got a text box (Text0) and a label
(Text2)...I'm just playing right now, so the names are defaults. On
the
"On Change" property of Text0, I've got a statment that says
Text2.Caption = "Like '" & Text0.Text & "*'" 

This is working fine in the label, as it is showing up the way I want
it...although I just noticed that I only have single quotes...hmmmm. I
bet if I can get double quote in there it works.

Right now, if I put "t" into Text0, I see: Like 't*' in Text2, and in
the query I have [Forms]![enterfrm]![Text2] in the criteria section.
This little bugger is turning out to be...well...a little bugger ;(

>>> pharold at proftesting.com 7/8/2005 9:32 AM >>>
Append the global "*" to whatever is the value entered (as a string)
with the "&" character and then submit to the query.

Perry Harold

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] "Like" operator help

I should clarify that I did get:

Like "ty*"

to work, but I want to leave it to the user to enter the letter(s).
And, I am using A2K

>>> John.Clark at niagaracounty.com 7/8/2005 9:20 AM >>>
This is probably beyond simple, but I really don't use it very often,
and I just ran into a problem.

I am trying to whip up a table of approximately 20,000 drugs. Many of
the drug listings are actually the same drug, but with different
strengths. For example:

Field5	ID	Field1	Field2	Field3	Field4	Field6	Field7
ABILIFY 1 MG/ML
SOLUTION	13	BEX	59148-0012-15	2.31031		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 10 MG
TABLET	14	BEX	59148-0008-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 15 MG
TABLET	15	BEX	59148-0009-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 20 MG
TABLET	16	BEX	59148-0010-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 30 MG
TABLET	17	BEX	59148-0011-13	14.20458		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA
ABILIFY 5 MG
TABLET	18	BEX	59148-0007-13	10.04479		0
OTSUKA
AMERICA

I want to build a query that let you type in Tylenol and get to that
drug, or even "T" and get to that point of the list, where the "t"s
are
located. I tried using a "Like" statement in the query, but it didn't
work. How is this done?

Thank you!

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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jul 14 10:41:39 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:41:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB
	E-book
In-Reply-To: <42D549F7.8090307@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200507141541.j6EFffR08526@databaseadvisors.com>

After your tantalizing offer, I have just wasted about an hour going around
in circles. I have even tried it on two machines, just to make sure that I`m
not going crazy. 

I select the course. I go to the content page. I select All then, download
selected items. It tells me the Offline player is not installed. I download
it and install it, then close the browser and try again. Same scenario
exactly -- the offline player is not installed. Try again. Same problem. 

I`d love to grab all this material, but somehow I must convince Windows that
the offline player is installed.

Incidentally, one box is running winServer2003 and the other is running
winXP Pro.

Any suggestions greatly appreciated...

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: July 13, 2005 1:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB E-book

Got this today from my local dotnet usergroup in Victoria
http://www.vicdotnet.org

 Microsoft has been releasing a lot of .NET 2.0 and SQL Server 2005 
training resources
 over the last little while, gearing up for the release of both in November.

Here are a few of the highlights. These free offers have a decent retail 
value,
and are only available for free for a "limited" time (though we aren't 
exactly sure what that means):

Training Courses
ASP.NET:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/learn/asptraining/

Visual Studio 2005:
 https://www.microsoftelearning.com/visualstudio2005/

SQL Server 2005:
https://www.microsoftelearning.com/sqlserver2005/

Free VB.NET 2005 ebook:
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/whidbey/introto2005/
   22.5 Meg download

http://www.vicdotnet.org

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Thu Jul 14 12:05:28 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:35:28 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
References: <AIEKKBIAKDJNAFGABNJKIEMGDBAA.bheygood@abestsystems.com> 
	<42D4D97B.12035.18CE6683@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <002201c58896$6b074e40$f31865cb@winxp>

Stuart,

    Sub-routine named P_QueryFriendlyCaption() given below, should be able to get the desired effect. Essentially, it involves making a temporary copy of the query, under the specified descriptive name. 

    Whenever, a fresh query needs to be displayed, previously existing temp query (if any) gets deleted, so that at any given stage, there is no more than one temp query. Finally when the form is closed, any temp query still around, gets deleted, so that the status of queries collection remains undisturbed.

    Complete code for form's module is given below. Query to be displayed is selected via combo box named CboQuery. Desired friendly caption is entered in text box named TxtCaption. On clicking the command button (CmdShow), the query gets displayed with appropriate caption (If TxtCaption is left blank, the query gets displayed under its original name).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

Form's Code Module
===================================
' General Declarations section
Private TempQuery As String   ' Global variable
------------------------------------------------------------

Private Sub P_QueryFriendlyCaption(ByVal RealName _
                        As String, ByVal DisplayName As String)
    On Error Resume Next
    
    ' Delete TempQuery if any and also query named
    ' DisplayName if any
    If Len(TempQuery) > 0 And _
                        TempQuery <> RealName Then
        DoCmd.DeleteObject acQuery, TempQuery
        ' Reset the value for global variable
        ' (Useful in clearing temp query in form's Close event)
        TempQuery = ""
    End If
    If DisplayName <> RealName Then
        DoCmd.DeleteObject acQuery, DisplayName
    End If
    
    ' Copy query named RealName as a temp query
    ' named DisplayName
    If DisplayName <> RealName Then
        ' Set global variable - for deletion of temp query
        ' in next round
        TempQuery = DisplayName
        DoCmd.CopyObject , DisplayName, _
                                            acQuery, RealName
    End If
    
    ' Display the newly copied query
    DoCmd.OpenQuery DisplayName
    DoCmd.Maximize
    
    On Error GoTo 0
End Sub

Private Sub CmdShow_Click()
    If Len(CboQuery) > 0 Then
        P_QueryFriendlyCaption CboQuery, _
                            Nz(TxtCaption, CboQuery)
    End If
End Sub

Private Sub Form_Activate()
    DoCmd.Restore
End Sub

Private Sub Form_Close()
    ' Delete temp query if any
    If Len(TempQuery) > 0 Then
        DoCmd.DeleteObject acQuery, TempQuery
    End If
End Sub
===================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stuart McLachlan 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 04:36
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code


  On 12 Jul 2005 at 17:52, Josh McFarlane wrote:

  > 
  > DoCmd.OpenReport ReportTest, acPreview,,,,"Report Caption"
  > 
  > Then in the on open handler:
  > Caption = OpenArgs
  > 
  > or something similar to fit your needs.
  > -- 

  In a similar vein, has any looked into changing the Caption in a query datasheet or print preview.   I often shortcut in simple applications and display a query to the user rather than going to the effort of producing a report based on the query. It would be nice to customise the header on a printout of the query.

  -- 
  Stuart


From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jul 14 12:41:01 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:41:01 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] List of users
Message-ID: <200507141741.j6EHf9R04354@databaseadvisors.com>

I know that JWC and others have devised methods of detemining the users in
an app. My question is this - given that say three front-ends are talking to
a single back-end, what does the list of users show. front-end users or
back-end users.

 

TIA,

Arthur



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jul 14 12:57:01 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:57:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] List of users
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B17@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Using ADO and monitoring the *back end*, you get the users connected to
the backend, including your own connection.  It doesn't know anything
about how the connection was made, just that there is one.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] List of users


I know that JWC and others have devised methods of detemining the users
in an app. My question is this - given that say three front-ends are
talking to a single back-end, what does the list of users show.
front-end users or back-end users.

 

TIA,

Arthur

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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jul 14 13:13:31 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:13:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] List of users
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B17@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200507141813.j6EIDWR12208@databaseadvisors.com>

Thanks! One more question on same.... given an ADP connection, I am likely
to see redundant names of the individual users. (This is because it is smart
and opens new connections to populate combo-boxes etc.) Does this occur in a
classic FE-BE setup.

Arthur

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: July 14, 2005 1:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List of users

Using ADO and monitoring the *back end*, you get the users connected to
the backend, including your own connection.  It doesn't know anything
about how the connection was made, just that there is one.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] List of users


I know that JWC and others have devised methods of detemining the users
in an app. My question is this - given that say three front-ends are
talking to a single back-end, what does the list of users show.
front-end users or back-end users.

 

TIA,

Arthur

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jul 14 14:58:21 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:58:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] List of users
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B18@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Not unless you have ODBC connections and are also creating OLEDb
connections in code.  Then you would see redundant names.  And actually,
you'll see the machine names plus the Access security login.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:14 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List of users


Thanks! One more question on same.... given an ADP connection, I am
likely to see redundant names of the individual users. (This is because
it is smart and opens new connections to populate combo-boxes etc.) Does
this occur in a classic FE-BE setup.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: July 14, 2005 1:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List of users

Using ADO and monitoring the *back end*, you get the users connected to
the backend, including your own connection.  It doesn't know anything
about how the connection was made, just that there is one.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] List of users


I know that JWC and others have devised methods of detemining the users
in an app. My question is this - given that say three front-ends are
talking to a single back-end, what does the list of users show.
front-end users or back-end users.

 

TIA,

Arthur

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Jul 14 15:00:13 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:00:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] List of users
In-Reply-To: <16669435.1121365030985.JavaMail.root@sniper18>
Message-ID: <000201c588ae$a7264f80$0518820a@danwaters>

Arthur,

This is the code I use to populate a temp table, and then display a list of
current users.  Note that this is looking at the workgroup file, not the FE
or the BE.

Private Sub butWhosLoggedIn_Click()
If ErrorTrapping = True Then On Error GoTo EH

    Dim con As New ADODB.Connection
    Dim rst As New ADODB.Recordset
    Dim rstData As DAO.Recordset
    Dim stgData As String
    Dim stg As String
    Dim stgFullName As String
    Dim rstFullname As DAO.Recordset
    Dim stgUserName As String

    '-- The user roster is exposed as a provider-specific schema rowset _
        in the Jet 4.0 OLE DB provider.  You have to use a GUID to _
        reference the schema, as provider-specific schemas are not _
        listed in ADO's type library for schema rowsets

    '-- This is partly from MSKB 198755 and is specific to Access 2000 & up
    con.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;Data Source=" _
        & SystemFolderPath & "\Workgroup\" & SystemWorkgroupName

    Set rst = con.OpenSchema(adSchemaProviderSpecific, ,
"{947bb102-5d43-11d1-bdbf-00c04fb92675}")
    
    '-- Output the list of all users in the current database.
    
    stg = "DELETE * FROM tblCurrentUsers"
    DoCmd.SetWarnings False
    DoCmd.RunSQL stg
    DoCmd.SetWarnings True
    
    stgData = "SELECT * FROM tblCurrentUsers"
    Set rstData = DBEngine(0)(0).OpenRecordset(stgData, dbOpenDynaset)
    
    Do While Not rst.EOF
        stgUserName = Left$(rst.Fields(1), InStr(1, rst.Fields(1), Chr(0)) -
1)
        If stgUserName <> "Admin" Then
            rstData.AddNew
            rstData!ComputerName = Left$(rst.Fields(0), InStr(1,
rst.Fields(0), Chr(0)) - 1)
            rstData!UserName = stgUserName
            stgFullName = "SELECT Person FROM tblPeopleMain" _
                & " WHERE UserName = '" & rstData!UserName & "'"
            Set rstFullname = DBEngine(0)(0).OpenRecordset(stgFullName,
dbOpenSnapshot)
            rstData!FullName = rstFullname!Person
            rstData!Connected = rst.Fields(2).Value
            If IsNull(rst.Fields(3)) Then
                rstData!Suspect = Null
            Else
                rstData!Suspect = Left$(rst.Fields(3), InStr(1,
rst.Fields(3), Chr(0)) - 1)
            End If
            rstData.Update
            rstFullname.Close
            Set rstFullname = Nothing
        End If
        rst.MoveNext
    Loop
    
    DoCmd.OpenReport "rptCurrentUsers", acViewPreview
    
    rst.Close
    Set rst = Nothing
    rstData.Close
    Set rstData = Nothing
    
    Exit Sub
    
EH:
    Application.Echo True
    DoCmd.SetWarnings True
    Call GlobalErrors("", Err.Number, Err.Description, Me.Name,
"butWhosLoggedIn_Click")

End Sub

HTH,
Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 11:14 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List of users

Thanks! One more question on same.... given an ADP connection, I am likely
to see redundant names of the individual users. (This is because it is smart
and opens new connections to populate combo-boxes etc.) Does this occur in a
classic FE-BE setup.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: July 14, 2005 1:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] List of users

Using ADO and monitoring the *back end*, you get the users connected to
the backend, including your own connection.  It doesn't know anything
about how the connection was made, just that there is one.

Charlotte


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 10:41 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] List of users


I know that JWC and others have devised methods of detemining the users
in an app. My question is this - given that say three front-ends are
talking to a single back-end, what does the list of users show.
front-end users or back-end users.

 

TIA,

Arthur

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Jul 14 16:49:37 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:49:37 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Change Reports Caption From Code
In-Reply-To: <002201c58896$6b074e40$f31865cb@winxp>
Message-ID: <42D76A91.23004.247ACE6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Jul 2005 at 22:35, A.D.Tejpal wrote:

> 
>     Sub-routine named P_QueryFriendlyCaption() given below, should be able to get the desired
> effect. Essentially, it involves making a temporary copy of the query, under the specified
> descriptive name. 
> 
>     Whenever, a fresh query needs to be displayed, previously existing temp query (if any) gets
> deleted, so that at any given stage, there is no more than one temp query. Finally when the form
> is closed, any temp query still around, gets deleted, so that the status of queries collection
> remains undisturbed.

That's smart thinking.
Why didn't I think of that :-(

Thanks,


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jul 14 19:28:22 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:28:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
Message-ID: <000501c588d4$1e985070$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

As part of the reporting app I am writing for the call center, I need to do
some data validation and report fields that fail the validation.  The query
that pulls data for the reports can come from many different tables, as many
as 8 or 10.  The issue is how to report that the data in FieldName X in
TableName Y is invalid.  

I have to build a report of data that fails the validation, and issue the
report so that the data can be fixed.  For example some fields are critical
to the client, i.e. "do not send the record in the report if the data in
fields A, F, G, K, or X are missing".  The nature of this business is that
data is collected piecemeal over time but specific pieces just absolutely
have to be there before these reports (data extracts) can be sent to the
client.

I already have a system that builds classes to hold the reporting
information about the export, the record and the fields IN THE QUERY but one
thing that is tough to get (directly) is the actual table name and field
name in the source field of a query.  As a result I designed a little class
to accept a field object from DAO and grab specific properties from that
field object.  The specifics looks something like:

In the class header:

Private mstrForeignName As String
Private mstrName As String
Private mvarDefaultValue As Variant
Private mblnAllowZeroLength As Boolean
Private mblnDataUpdatable As Boolean
Private mvarOriginalValue As Variant
Private mblnRequired As Boolean
Private mlngSize As Long
Private mstrSourceField As String
Private mstrSourceTable As String
Private mintType As Integer
Private mstrValidationRule As String
Private mstrValidationText As String
Private mvarValue As Variant
Private mvarVisibleValue As Variant

And the class method that accepts a field object and pulls these properties
out:

Public Function mReadClassProperties(lFld As DAO.Field)
On Error GoTo Err_mReadClassProperties
    On Error Resume Next
    With lFld
        mblnAllowZeroLength = .AllowZeroLength
        mblnDataUpdatable = .DataUpdatable
        mvarDefaultValue = .DefaultValue
        mstrForeignName = .ForeignName
        mstrName = .Name
        mvarOriginalValue = .OriginalValue
        mblnRequired = .Required
        mlngSize = .Size
        mstrSourceField = .SourceField
        mstrSourceTable = .SourceTable
        mintType = .Type
        mstrValidationRule = .ValidationRule
        mstrValidationText = .ValidationText
        mvarValue = .Value
        mvarVisibleValue = .VisibleValue
    End With
Exit_mReadClassProperties:
Exit Function
Err_mReadClassProperties:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
clsDAOFld.mReadClassProperties"
        Resume Exit_mReadClassProperties
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

And of course methods to read the property values:

Public Property Get pForeignName() As String
    pForeignName = mstrForeignName
End Property
Public Property Get pName() As String
    pName = mstrName
End Property
Public Property Get pDefaultValue() As Variant
    pDefaultValue = mvarDefaultValue
End Property

Etc etc.


The reason that I store these field properties in my own class is that I
need to gather the data about each field in the big query one time, as the
recordset is opened, rather than each time a record is read (for speed).  I
am currently really only interested in the static stuff like SourceField and
SourceTable but for completeness just added the rest.

Notice that some of the field properties are dynamic and some are static,
i.e. some are about data and others are about the format of the data.  I
could (and probably will eventually) break this down into two methods, one
that grabs the static properties such as AllowZeroLength, DefaultValue,
SourceField, stuff like that ONE TIME, and another method that grabs the
dynamic data every time the record changes - Value and Original Value, stuff
like that.

At any rate, I now have a class that I can open a recordset from a query,
iterate through the fields collection instantiating one of these classes for
each field, then save the properties at the instant the recordset opens.  I
then have any static properties - specifically of interest right now is
SourceField and SourceTable - to use whenever I need to report or log a
field as being empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jul 14 22:25:22 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:25:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <000501c588d4$1e985070$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000601c588ec$d5f8f810$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I have tried the same thing with the ADODB.Field object but there is nothing
like the wealth of properties that DAO makes available, and I see nothing
like SourceTable and SourceField.

Anyone know if this is possible with ADO?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties


As part of the reporting app I am writing for the call center, I need to do
some data validation and report fields that fail the validation.  The query
that pulls data for the reports can come from many different tables, as many
as 8 or 10.  The issue is how to report that the data in FieldName X in
TableName Y is invalid.  

I have to build a report of data that fails the validation, and issue the
report so that the data can be fixed.  For example some fields are critical
to the client, i.e. "do not send the record in the report if the data in
fields A, F, G, K, or X are missing".  The nature of this business is that
data is collected piecemeal over time but specific pieces just absolutely
have to be there before these reports (data extracts) can be sent to the
client.

I already have a system that builds classes to hold the reporting
information about the export, the record and the fields IN THE QUERY but one
thing that is tough to get (directly) is the actual table name and field
name in the source field of a query.  As a result I designed a little class
to accept a field object from DAO and grab specific properties from that
field object.  The specifics looks something like:

In the class header:

Private mstrForeignName As String
Private mstrName As String
Private mvarDefaultValue As Variant
Private mblnAllowZeroLength As Boolean
Private mblnDataUpdatable As Boolean
Private mvarOriginalValue As Variant
Private mblnRequired As Boolean
Private mlngSize As Long
Private mstrSourceField As String
Private mstrSourceTable As String
Private mintType As Integer
Private mstrValidationRule As String
Private mstrValidationText As String
Private mvarValue As Variant
Private mvarVisibleValue As Variant

And the class method that accepts a field object and pulls these properties
out:

Public Function mReadClassProperties(lFld As DAO.Field)
On Error GoTo Err_mReadClassProperties
    On Error Resume Next
    With lFld
        mblnAllowZeroLength = .AllowZeroLength
        mblnDataUpdatable = .DataUpdatable
        mvarDefaultValue = .DefaultValue
        mstrForeignName = .ForeignName
        mstrName = .Name
        mvarOriginalValue = .OriginalValue
        mblnRequired = .Required
        mlngSize = .Size
        mstrSourceField = .SourceField
        mstrSourceTable = .SourceTable
        mintType = .Type
        mstrValidationRule = .ValidationRule
        mstrValidationText = .ValidationText
        mvarValue = .Value
        mvarVisibleValue = .VisibleValue
    End With
Exit_mReadClassProperties:
Exit Function
Err_mReadClassProperties:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
clsDAOFld.mReadClassProperties"
        Resume Exit_mReadClassProperties
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

And of course methods to read the property values:

Public Property Get pForeignName() As String
    pForeignName = mstrForeignName
End Property
Public Property Get pName() As String
    pName = mstrName
End Property
Public Property Get pDefaultValue() As Variant
    pDefaultValue = mvarDefaultValue
End Property

Etc etc.


The reason that I store these field properties in my own class is that I
need to gather the data about each field in the big query one time, as the
recordset is opened, rather than each time a record is read (for speed).  I
am currently really only interested in the static stuff like SourceField and
SourceTable but for completeness just added the rest.

Notice that some of the field properties are dynamic and some are static,
i.e. some are about data and others are about the format of the data.  I
could (and probably will eventually) break this down into two methods, one
that grabs the static properties such as AllowZeroLength, DefaultValue,
SourceField, stuff like that ONE TIME, and another method that grabs the
dynamic data every time the record changes - Value and Original Value, stuff
like that.

At any rate, I now have a class that I can open a recordset from a query,
iterate through the fields collection instantiating one of these classes for
each field, then save the properties at the instant the recordset opens.  I
then have any static properties - specifically of interest right now is
SourceField and SourceTable - to use whenever I need to report or log a
field as being empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jul 15 01:36:13 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:36:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <000601c588ec$d5f8f810$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <000501c588d4$1e985070$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <42D7E5FD.25420.429C3F0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 14 Jul 2005 at 23:25, John W. Colby wrote:

> I have tried the same thing with the ADODB.Field object but there is nothing
> like the wealth of properties that DAO makes available, and I see nothing
> like SourceTable and SourceField.
> 
> Anyone know if this is possible with ADO?
> 

ADO is an "abstraction layer" between the data source and your application.
The whole idea is that you don't need to know anything about the physical 
storage methods behind the recordset that you are working with.  AFAIK, 
there is no way with an ADO recordset to tell where a particular piece of 
data came from.

-- 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jul 15 09:38:33 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:38:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <42D7E5FD.25420.429C3F0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <001101c5894a$e3ac9210$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

That's what I thought.  In cases like this it is useful to be able to get at
the physical layer.  DAO is occasionally still useful.

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties


On 14 Jul 2005 at 23:25, John W. Colby wrote:

> I have tried the same thing with the ADODB.Field object but there is 
> nothing like the wealth of properties that DAO makes available, and I 
> see nothing like SourceTable and SourceField.
> 
> Anyone know if this is possible with ADO?
> 

ADO is an "abstraction layer" between the data source and your application.
The whole idea is that you don't need to know anything about the physical 
storage methods behind the recordset that you are working with.  AFAIK, 
there is no way with an ADO recordset to tell where a particular piece of 
data came from.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jul 15 10:11:11 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:11:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B19@infoserver01.infostat.local>

The closest you come to a DAO.Field object is the ADOX.Column object.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties


I have tried the same thing with the ADODB.Field object but there is
nothing like the wealth of properties that DAO makes available, and I
see nothing like SourceTable and SourceField.

Anyone know if this is possible with ADO?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties


As part of the reporting app I am writing for the call center, I need to
do some data validation and report fields that fail the validation.  The
query that pulls data for the reports can come from many different
tables, as many as 8 or 10.  The issue is how to report that the data in
FieldName X in TableName Y is invalid.  

I have to build a report of data that fails the validation, and issue
the report so that the data can be fixed.  For example some fields are
critical to the client, i.e. "do not send the record in the report if
the data in fields A, F, G, K, or X are missing".  The nature of this
business is that data is collected piecemeal over time but specific
pieces just absolutely have to be there before these reports (data
extracts) can be sent to the client.

I already have a system that builds classes to hold the reporting
information about the export, the record and the fields IN THE QUERY but
one thing that is tough to get (directly) is the actual table name and
field name in the source field of a query.  As a result I designed a
little class to accept a field object from DAO and grab specific
properties from that field object.  The specifics looks something like:

In the class header:

Private mstrForeignName As String
Private mstrName As String
Private mvarDefaultValue As Variant
Private mblnAllowZeroLength As Boolean
Private mblnDataUpdatable As Boolean
Private mvarOriginalValue As Variant
Private mblnRequired As Boolean
Private mlngSize As Long
Private mstrSourceField As String
Private mstrSourceTable As String
Private mintType As Integer
Private mstrValidationRule As String
Private mstrValidationText As String
Private mvarValue As Variant
Private mvarVisibleValue As Variant

And the class method that accepts a field object and pulls these
properties
out:

Public Function mReadClassProperties(lFld As DAO.Field)
On Error GoTo Err_mReadClassProperties
    On Error Resume Next
    With lFld
        mblnAllowZeroLength = .AllowZeroLength
        mblnDataUpdatable = .DataUpdatable
        mvarDefaultValue = .DefaultValue
        mstrForeignName = .ForeignName
        mstrName = .Name
        mvarOriginalValue = .OriginalValue
        mblnRequired = .Required
        mlngSize = .Size
        mstrSourceField = .SourceField
        mstrSourceTable = .SourceTable
        mintType = .Type
        mstrValidationRule = .ValidationRule
        mstrValidationText = .ValidationText
        mvarValue = .Value
        mvarVisibleValue = .VisibleValue
    End With
Exit_mReadClassProperties:
Exit Function
Err_mReadClassProperties:
        MsgBox Err.Description, , "Error in Function
clsDAOFld.mReadClassProperties"
        Resume Exit_mReadClassProperties
    Resume 0    '.FOR TROUBLESHOOTING
End Function

And of course methods to read the property values:

Public Property Get pForeignName() As String
    pForeignName = mstrForeignName
End Property
Public Property Get pName() As String
    pName = mstrName
End Property
Public Property Get pDefaultValue() As Variant
    pDefaultValue = mvarDefaultValue
End Property

Etc etc.


The reason that I store these field properties in my own class is that I
need to gather the data about each field in the big query one time, as
the recordset is opened, rather than each time a record is read (for
speed).  I am currently really only interested in the static stuff like
SourceField and SourceTable but for completeness just added the rest.

Notice that some of the field properties are dynamic and some are
static, i.e. some are about data and others are about the format of the
data.  I could (and probably will eventually) break this down into two
methods, one that grabs the static properties such as AllowZeroLength,
DefaultValue, SourceField, stuff like that ONE TIME, and another method
that grabs the dynamic data every time the record changes - Value and
Original Value, stuff like that.

At any rate, I now have a class that I can open a recordset from a
query, iterate through the fields collection instantiating one of these
classes for each field, then save the properties at the instant the
recordset opens.  I then have any static properties - specifically of
interest right now is SourceField and SourceTable - to use whenever I
need to report or log a field as being empty.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 15 10:25:41 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:25:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access
Message-ID: <BAY104-F33E969385AEA83A20BDB739AD00@phx.gbl>

Hi Everyone,

Just wondered if there were some opinions about developing in File Maker Pro 
vs. Access.  I have heard a few opinions on the topic in the past, but 
wondered if anyone out there has experience in both.

I'm supporting an application (backup support) that was written in File 
Maker Pro, and the users keep complaining that it runs really slowly around 
the first of the month(when they are the busiest)  Since the application was 
written by another company, I dont' have any rights to make changes. The 
company claims that everything is working great.......but the users of 
course aren't happy.

It seems that File Maker is opening every single module, even though the 
users may only be calling one portion of the program.  You can actually sit 
there and watch all of the screens load. There must be at least fifteen of 
them.  Just wondering if this is a File Maker standard type occurrence, or 
maybe just the way the programmer made things happen.

Any opinions?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jul 15 10:56:15 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:56:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B1B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

You can create some incredibly BAD applicatons in File Maker, how bad
depends on the version. :-<

There is very little distinction in FileMaker between the GUI and the
data structures and only the latest version actually keeps all the
tables and "relationships" in a single file instead of separate files.
I'm not sure there ARE any "standard" occurrences in FileMaker, but you
can download a 30-day free trial of the latest version and play with it
to see how it behaves.  It is enough to make any Access developer fall
to their knees in gratitude that they don't have to use FileMaker!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Julie Reardon-Taylor [mailto:prosoft6 at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:26 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access


Hi Everyone,

Just wondered if there were some opinions about developing in File Maker
Pro 
vs. Access.  I have heard a few opinions on the topic in the past, but 
wondered if anyone out there has experience in both.

I'm supporting an application (backup support) that was written in File 
Maker Pro, and the users keep complaining that it runs really slowly
around 
the first of the month(when they are the busiest)  Since the application
was 
written by another company, I dont' have any rights to make changes. The

company claims that everything is working great.......but the users of 
course aren't happy.

It seems that File Maker is opening every single module, even though the

users may only be calling one portion of the program.  You can actually
sit 
there and watch all of the screens load. There must be at least fifteen
of 
them.  Just wondering if this is a File Maker standard type occurrence,
or 
maybe just the way the programmer made things happen.

Any opinions?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net


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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Jul 15 12:32:16 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:32:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC1F@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the
combo box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.


From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Jul 15 12:40:21 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:40:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code
In-Reply-To: <000001c5882c$9f82dfa0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <0IJO0057JJR652@l-daemon>

Hi John:

I will answer inline...

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

OK, bear with me since I am new to this unbound (but data aware) form
business.

Forms have a recordset correct, just not bound to one.
Controls on each form are created manually and the named.  The corresponding
field is set how?  IOW how is the control made aware of the data that it is
unbound to.  Do you (currently) use classes for this at all?  

>
I do not use classes to do this but should... It definitely leads itself
toward a class. I am/have doing classes but they are in VB and subsequently
VB.Net. The fields are filled from the recordset like: 

With rsCardList
 If .BOF = False And .EOF = False Then
  txtNameonCard = ![Name] 
 end if
End With

..or...

Here is a very simplified version of filling the Form fields from memory.
The recordset fields have to precisely match the form layout for this to
work but position of the fields  
...
For i = 0 to frm.Controls.Count
 With MyRecordset
  Frm.Controls(i) = .Fields(i)
 End With
Next i
...

.. and a while loop if a subform
<

Off the top of my head, I see a need to load a class instance for each
control, which will hold the field name that the control loads data from and
writes changes back to.  A "dirty" variable to indicate that the control
(data) has been modified.  The form class then has a control scanner that
loads a control instance for each control discovered on the form.  

>
It is not the form being 'bound' or 'unbound' that indicated whether a field
has been changed 'dirty' on a form but it is whether the field .text or
.value is different. To test whether form values have been changed you can
check the 'dirty' flag, monitor the validation event, compare the field
.text and .value info or compare the values against the recordset values.

Each combo box list values are collected first, used to populate the list
data and generally remain static until the user leaves the form or even the
application. If the list value are continually changing then they must be
managed like standard form fields.
<

The form init will init the form class, then go back and initialize each
control with the field name that it is unbound to.  The form class knows how
to read data and then iterates the control classes pushing in data values to
the control class, which in turn pushes the value in to the control.  Or the
control class just uses the control as the structure that holds the data
value.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but unbound controls don't manipulate the
OldValue property the way that bound controls do, correct?  

>
Actually they do; see above...
<

Thus the control
class needs to store the value into an OldVal variable in the control class.


What events work correctly with unbound forms and controls, and which events
do not fire or exhibit issues due to the unboundness?  IOW it seems that a
form BeforeUpdate / AfterUpdate etc simply wouldn't fire since there is no
bound recordset to monitor.  What about controls?  

>
As soon as a change is made to a form/record the data for the specific
recordset/form is re-acquired. The following assumes a text request though I
try to keep most of my calls done through queries or stored procedures. This
command attempts to lock out any other uses until the recordset is closed.
It works as if it was originating from a 'bound' form and really there is
only two lines of important code... the rest relates to the ADO data
methodology. Below is part of a snippet:

...
With objCmd
 .CommandType = adCmdText
 .CommandText = "select * from Company where recordID = " & Str(glbRecordID)
End With
    
Err.Clear
rsCompany.Open objCmd, , adOpenDynamic, adLockPessimistic
If Err.Number > 0 Then

 ...
 Handle the errors or warnings here
 ...
    
End If
...

Here is a site you can check over with more code and samples"
http://support.sas.com/rnd/eai/oledb/rr_locking.htm   
<

Is there any documentation anywhere that discusses the event differences
between bound and unbound forms and controls?  My bound object classes sink
the events for the object that they represent and can (and do) run code in
those events.  I need to know the differences between bound object events
and unbound object events.

I actually have a tiny little form (8 controls or so) that I need to take
unbound to eliminate locking issues that I simply cannot resolve with the
bound version.

>
Hope this helps...Jim
<

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

The methods I have used were designed about eight years ago and have
copied/improved again and again. Here are the basics and a step by step
methodology:
1. I always use ADO-OLE. (One exception is MySQL... a bit of a pain. If
someone could figure out a method that would not require a station by
station visit to install the MySQL ODBC drivers I would be for ever
indebted.)
2. The forms and subforms are populated as the user moves through the
records and but until the user actually changes field content on a form or
attempts to delete the current record, the recordset used to feed the form
is static. 3. a) A record or group of records in the case of a subform being
displayed, are first pulled into a recordset, and content are then used to
populate the form collection. In theory the record exists in three places.  
b) If there is a change of deletion request the recordset is locked by
creating a dynamic recordset with record-lock attribute.
c) If an 'already locked' error occurs when this lock is being applied then
the user is informed of the condition and given the appropriate options.
d) When using a 'real' :-) SQL DB (MS SQL/Oracle etc.) much of the record
handling is managed internally as soon as the 'BeginTrans' is applied and
closed or resolved when the 'CommitTrans' or 'RollbackTrans' runs.

It may initially seem a little complex but it gives a full range of options
for managing the data and it allows the client to build large databases with
many users and only requires the purchase a few licenses/seats. (ie. 20
licenses and 100 users.)      

Using ADO makes is easy to switch or attach different data sources with
little effort. (In theory one line of code.) Even web applications can be
created leveraging the same methods. That is not totally true but given that
SQL versions are standardizing coupled with the use of Store
Procedures/Queries, with passing parameters, very few changes are needed. I
am still pacing around the XML pool but believe in the long run that is
where to go.

So there is the 'thumb-nail' sketch of the 'non-bounder' application
implementation methodology.

Jim   

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 4:35 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code

Jim,

My framework (the part that had to do with forms and controls) was indeed
aimed at bound forms.  However the concept works for unbound forms as well.
Indeed it would be even more critical to use a framework as you the
developer are doing so much of the work that Access was doing for you -
loading all of the data into the controls, checking for updates to the data
by other people before you wrote changes back to the table, writing the data
back from controls into fields in the tables, stuff like that.  All of that
code would be framework material.  Once written and stored in the framework,
the doing of it would be automatic by the framework.

If you are one of the unholy (unbounders) why don't you give a thumbnail
sketch of how you manage all of that work.  I will then brainstorm how I
would look at doing it in a framework.  Remember that the concept of a
framework is to make it as automatic as possible.  For example (in a bound
form) I have a form class and I have a class for each control type.  The
form class runs a control scanner, gets the control type of each control,
loads a class instance for each control found.  Once this is done, the form
class and control classes can work together to do tasks.  

As an example, I can literally just drop a pair of controls on the form, a
text box named RecID that exposes (is bound to) the PK (always an
autonumber) and an unbound combo called RecSel.  The names are specific and
if the control scanner finds this pair of controls it knows that a record
selector exists and runs the code.  The afterupdate of the combo by that
name calls a method of the parent form saying "move to recid XXXX".  The
column 0 of the combo is the PK of the record in the form so it knows the
PK.  The form's OnCurrent knows that it needs to keep the combo synced to
the displayed record in the form so it calls a method of the combo class
telling it to display the data relevant to the current record in the form.
Thus the form, the combo and a text box all work as a system to form a
record selector.  If the developer drops these two controls on the form he
"just has" a record selector.  Nothing else is required - other than binding
RecSel to the PK field and setting the combo's query to display the data and
get the PK of the records in the table.

As an unbounder, you need to think about how to achieve this kind of
"automaticness" in the things you do.  Naturally some tasks do require
feeding data into init() methods of classes to set the classes up to do
their job.  After that though the "systems" need to just work together. Load
the data into the unbound form / controls.  Store flags in each control's
class saying that control's data was modified.  Scan for all controls with
modified data and update the underlying data in the record. Check for data
changes in the data you are about to update and inform the user that another
user edited the record since you loaded the data.  Etc.

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Framework book - was caption from code


Hi John:

Save a copy for me. It sounds like a good read...but I guess it only works
with bound forms.(?)

Jim 



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jul 15 12:44:55 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:44:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC1F@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <001701c58964$e9b9a5c0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

The "correct" way to handle this is to have a query that shows ALL records
(UNFILTERED) and another that shows FILTERED records.  In OnEnter, change
the query to the FILTERED query, in OnExit change the query to the
UNFILTERED query.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the combo
box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From JHewson at karta.com  Fri Jul 15 13:00:49 2005
From: JHewson at karta.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:00:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
Message-ID: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03629CF6@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>

I'm not sure what that would do?  
Karen wants the combo box to show FILTERED records unless the user wants
to see UNFILTERED records. I agree that a SQL statement would be able to
give the data she wants.  On the after update event of a button
somewhere on the form; change the Row Source of the combo box with an
appropriate SQL statement.  Changing the Caption of the Button from
"All" to "Open Only" would help the user and indicate which SQL
statement was used. Then refresh the form.
HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

The "correct" way to handle this is to have a query that shows ALL
records
(UNFILTERED) and another that shows FILTERED records.  In OnEnter,
change the query to the FILTERED query, in OnExit change the query to
the UNFILTERED query.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the
combo box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Fri Jul 15 13:13:23 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:13:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
In-Reply-To: <001701c58964$e9b9a5c0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <000201c58968$e48172a0$2f01a8c0@dorismanning>

How is that the "correct" way?  The OnEnter event occurs when the control
receives focus and the OnExit event occurs when the control loses focus.

You suggested solution would have records always UNFILTERED with no way to
FILTER them because as soon as the user leaves the combo to do something to
a filtered record, the records would unfilter again.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

The "correct" way to handle this is to have a query that shows ALL records
(UNFILTERED) and another that shows FILTERED records.  In OnEnter, change
the query to the FILTERED query, in OnExit change the query to the
UNFILTERED query.

John W. Colby
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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the combo
box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jul 15 13:15:18 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:15:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
In-Reply-To: <9C382E065F54AE48BC3AA7925DCBB01C03629CF6@karta-exc-int.Karta.com>
Message-ID: <001801c58969$2853d040$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

If this is a bound form, then if you filter the combo but don't filter the
records underneath the form, any records where the FK in the underlying
record is missing from the combo will show a blank in the combo.  That is
what the solution I gave is designed to address.  

John W. Colby
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I'm not sure what that would do?  
Karen wants the combo box to show FILTERED records unless the user wants to
see UNFILTERED records. I agree that a SQL statement would be able to give
the data she wants.  On the after update event of a button somewhere on the
form; change the Row Source of the combo box with an appropriate SQL
statement.  Changing the Caption of the Button from "All" to "Open Only"
would help the user and indicate which SQL statement was used. Then refresh
the form. HTH Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

The "correct" way to handle this is to have a query that shows ALL records
(UNFILTERED) and another that shows FILTERED records.  In OnEnter, change
the query to the FILTERED query, in OnExit change the query to the
UNFILTERED query.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the combo
box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Jul 15 13:16:36 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:16:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC25@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

What is the code?  After update, me.combobox.recordsource= blaah blaah?
I am looking for the syntax.   

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Manning
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

How is that the "correct" way?  The OnEnter event occurs when the
control receives focus and the OnExit event occurs when the control
loses focus.

You suggested solution would have records always UNFILTERED with no way
to FILTER them because as soon as the user leaves the combo to do
something to a filtered record, the records would unfilter again.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

The "correct" way to handle this is to have a query that shows ALL
records
(UNFILTERED) and another that shows FILTERED records.  In OnEnter,
change the query to the FILTERED query, in OnExit change the query to
the UNFILTERED query.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the
combo box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Jul 15 13:20:46 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:20:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC27@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

It is not bound.  The first unbound combo box has the user select a
test.  There are around 400 tests.  Once the test is selected, the
second combo box stores the projects on which the selected test has
occurred.  At any given time, a test might be outstanding on four or
five projects.  But, since the beginning of time, that test may have
been on seven hundred projects.  Normally the user only needs to see
those projects that are open.  But the PIA wants to see all on occassion
so I just wanted to put a little button to change the datasource of the
project box to show all of them.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

If this is a bound form, then if you filter the combo but don't filter
the records underneath the form, any records where the FK in the
underlying record is missing from the combo will show a blank in the
combo.  That is what the solution I gave is designed to address.  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I'm not sure what that would do?  
Karen wants the combo box to show FILTERED records unless the user wants
to see UNFILTERED records. I agree that a SQL statement would be able to
give the data she wants.  On the after update event of a button
somewhere on the form; change the Row Source of the combo box with an
appropriate SQL statement.  Changing the Caption of the Button from
"All" to "Open Only"
would help the user and indicate which SQL statement was used. Then
refresh the form. HTH Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

The "correct" way to handle this is to have a query that shows ALL
records
(UNFILTERED) and another that shows FILTERED records.  In OnEnter,
change the query to the FILTERED query, in OnExit change the query to
the UNFILTERED query.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the
combo box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jul 15 13:34:02 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:34:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
In-Reply-To: <000201c58968$e48172a0$2f01a8c0@dorismanning>
Message-ID: <001a01c5896b$c9039b90$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

My solution is designed to display ALL records from the table filling the
combo when the combo does NOT have the focus.  This allows the combo to
display any of it's valid values when the form is just being browsed.  If
the combo is going to be used to SELECT filtered records from the table
filling the combo, then the query is changed as the user clicks into the
combo.  The user can now ONLY SELECT filtered records from the combo's
table.

It sounds like that is what she wanted.  If you filter the combo to only
display open projects, but the form displays ALL projects, then as the user
browses the records, the records with CLOSED projects will display a blank
in the combo.  The combo MUST DISPLAY ALL possible choices when JUST
BROWSING, but filter down to only allow OPEN projects when adding new
records.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


How is that the "correct" way?  The OnEnter event occurs when the control
receives focus and the OnExit event occurs when the control loses focus.

You suggested solution would have records always UNFILTERED with no way to
FILTER them because as soon as the user leaves the combo to do something to
a filtered record, the records would unfilter again.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

The "correct" way to handle this is to have a query that shows ALL records
(UNFILTERED) and another that shows FILTERED records.  In OnEnter, change
the query to the FILTERED query, in OnExit change the query to the
UNFILTERED query.

John W. Colby
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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 1:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source


I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the combo
box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 15 13:39:15 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:39:15 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B1B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F30288EFC102E444080E7379AD00@phx.gbl>

Wow!  This application that I am referring to is being sold right now across 
the country.  The even have a Quickbooks add-in.  The company that developed 
it is growing like crazy.  Maybe it's time to make an Access version!  Thank 
you for your opinions!



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From john at winhaven.net  Fri Jul 15 13:44:50 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:44:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC1F@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <200507151844.j6FIixPi298550@pimout4-ext.prodigy.net>

Karen,
I have an A97 app where I had to allow for (eventually) 9 different filters
in a list box. It started out with less choices and they kept growing so
building it this way made it very flexible.

I needed to keep the app small so I did it using SQL statements (This was
back when floppies were still the removable media of choice). The UI is a
frame with 9 buttons. The default recordset and each button calls a
subroutine that sets the recordset using a case statement. I've condensed it
below:

Private Sub ChooseList()

Dim strListSelectSQL As String
Dim strListWhereSQL As String
Dim strListOrderSQL As String
Dim strListFullSQL As String

DoCmd.Hourglass True
strListSelectSQL = "SELECT [sql select statement] "

Select Case fraListChoices
	Case 1:
		strListWhereSQL = "WHERE [sql order statement] "
		strListOrderSQL = " ORDER BY [sql order statement];"
	Case 2:
		strListWhereSQL = " "WHERE [sql order statement] "
		strListOrderSQL = " ORDER BY [sql order statement];"
	Case Else:
		strListWhereSQL = " "WHERE [sql order statement] "
		strListOrderSQL = " ORDER BY [sql order statement];"

End Select

strListFullSQL = strListSelectSQL & strListWhereSQL & strListOrderSQL
Me.lstList.RowSource = strListFullSQL   
Call SetListMess 'if no record tell user
End Sub

You could do the same thing with queries set with different filters if the
resulting bloat didn't matter.

HTH
John B.

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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the combo
box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 15 13:47:21 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:47:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC27@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F34A013D16BA86CB00DC79E9AD00@phx.gbl>

Karen,

Why don't you just show the unfiltered records on the OnDoubleClick event 
and show the filtered records all other times?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Fri Jul 15 13:50:14 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:50:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC2C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

That is it.  Thank you so much.  Happy Friday! 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 2:45 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

Karen,
I have an A97 app where I had to allow for (eventually) 9 different
filters in a list box. It started out with less choices and they kept
growing so building it this way made it very flexible.

I needed to keep the app small so I did it using SQL statements (This
was back when floppies were still the removable media of choice). The UI
is a frame with 9 buttons. The default recordset and each button calls a
subroutine that sets the recordset using a case statement. I've
condensed it
below:

Private Sub ChooseList()

Dim strListSelectSQL As String
Dim strListWhereSQL As String
Dim strListOrderSQL As String
Dim strListFullSQL As String

DoCmd.Hourglass True
strListSelectSQL = "SELECT [sql select statement] "

Select Case fraListChoices
	Case 1:
		strListWhereSQL = "WHERE [sql order statement] "
		strListOrderSQL = " ORDER BY [sql order statement];"
	Case 2:
		strListWhereSQL = " "WHERE [sql order statement] "
		strListOrderSQL = " ORDER BY [sql order statement];"
	Case Else:
		strListWhereSQL = " "WHERE [sql order statement] "
		strListOrderSQL = " ORDER BY [sql order statement];"

End Select

strListFullSQL = strListSelectSQL & strListWhereSQL & strListOrderSQL
Me.lstList.RowSource = strListFullSQL   
Call SetListMess 'if no record tell user End Sub

You could do the same thing with queries set with different filters if
the resulting bloat didn't matter.

HTH
John B.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Karen
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Changing Combo Box Data Source

I know there is a way to do this.  Where are the Friday Jokes?  My form
opens.  The combo box on the form is filtering for only "Open" items.
However, PIA user wants the option to see all projects, open and closed.
What code do I throw on a button to change the record source of the
combo box to take off the filter?  Is it setting the recordset?  Thanks.
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jul 15 17:56:47 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:56:47 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <001101c5894a$e3ac9210$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
References: <42D7E5FD.25420.429C3F0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42D8CBCF.28262.7AB81A7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 15 Jul 2005 at 10:38, John W. Colby wrote:

> That's what I thought.  In cases like this it is useful to be able to get at
> the physical layer.  DAO is occasionally still useful.
> 

Ocassionally?  

If you are working with Jet(using Access as your data store) I don't know a 
single advantage of ADO over DAO.  I do know several advantages  DAO has 
over ADO.

I use ADO in VB regularly, but every time I create a new Access 
application, the first thing I do is remove the ADO reference and replace 
it with a reference to DAO :-) 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Jul 15 18:21:19 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:21:19 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B1B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <42D8D18F.21693.7C1F891@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 15 Jul 2005 at 8:56, Charlotte Foust wrote:

> You can create some incredibly BAD applicatons in File Maker, how bad
> depends on the version. :-<
> 
> There is very little distinction in FileMaker between the GUI and the
> data structures and only the latest version actually keeps all the
> tables and "relationships" in a single file instead of separate files.
> I'm not sure there ARE any "standard" occurrences in FileMaker, but you
> can download a 30-day free trial of the latest version and play with it
> to see how it behaves.  It is enough to make any Access developer fall
> to their knees in gratitude that they don't have to use FileMaker!
> 

See:
http://advisorforums.com/dFileMaker001.nsf/0/28b623cbbee234d193b008918e2948b
8?OpenDocument

A bit old:
http://www.techsoup.org/howto/articlepage.cfm?ArticleId=207&topicid=6


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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jul 15 18:22:55 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:22:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <42D8CBCF.28262.7AB81A7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200507152322.j6FNMsR17848@databaseadvisors.com>

We take exactly opposite approaches there, Stuart. First thing I do is look
for the DAO references and immediately start transforming them to ADO +
ADOX. I started out with DAO since there was no alternative, and then I
switched because that was the best way to talk to SQL... and once I got
there I would _never_ go back.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: July 15, 2005 6:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties

On 15 Jul 2005 at 10:38, John W. Colby wrote:

> That's what I thought.  In cases like this it is useful to be able to get
at
> the physical layer.  DAO is occasionally still useful.
> 

Ocassionally?  

If you are working with Jet(using Access as your data store) I don't know a 
single advantage of ADO over DAO.  I do know several advantages  DAO has 
over ADO.

I use ADO in VB regularly, but every time I create a new Access 
application, the first thing I do is remove the ADO reference and replace 
it with a reference to DAO :-) 

Not to say that I am right, but merely that I am 100 times more comfortable
in ADO + ADOX than in DAO. It just makes more sense to me, plus it works
lots better with ADP + SQL apps.

A.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jul 16 00:12:20 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:12:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <42D8CBCF.28262.7AB81A7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <0IJP001EVFSG85@l-daemon>

Hi Stuart:

I must say that agree with Arthur on this approach. The ADO connection layer
allows so much flexibility when writing Access applications. Most of my
clients initially started out with small applications but as they grew they
always moved to a MS SQL or Oracle backend. If I had written the program in
DAO it would have been a huge and expensive re-write.

Jim 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 3:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties

On 15 Jul 2005 at 10:38, John W. Colby wrote:

> That's what I thought.  In cases like this it is useful to be able to get
at
> the physical layer.  DAO is occasionally still useful.
> 

Ocassionally?  

If you are working with Jet(using Access as your data store) I don't know a 
single advantage of ADO over DAO.  I do know several advantages  DAO has 
over ADO.

I use ADO in VB regularly, but every time I create a new Access 
application, the first thing I do is remove the ADO reference and replace 
it with a reference to DAO :-) 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Jul 16 01:17:39 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:17:39 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <0IJP001EVFSG85@l-daemon>
References: <42D8CBCF.28262.7AB81A7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42D93323.3667.93F2244@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 15 Jul 2005 at 22:12, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Stuart:
> 
> I must say that agree with Arthur on this approach. The ADO connection layer
> allows so much flexibility when writing Access applications. Most of my
> clients initially started out with small applications but as they grew they
> always moved to a MS SQL or Oracle backend. If I had written the program in
> DAO it would have been a huge and expensive re-write.
> 

You can still use DAO with SQL Server or Oracle. Just link to the backend 
using an ODBC SQL driver.

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From artful at rogers.com  Sat Jul 16 07:51:23 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:51:23 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <42D93323.3667.93F2244@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200507161251.j6GCpSR08661@databaseadvisors.com>

Well, with Oracle you have a point, but with MS-SQL, why on earth use ODBC
when you can use an ADP project instead. Does not compute... save and except
that you might need to support both platforms.

But aside from all that, I simply found ADO to be much more understandable
and intuitive than DAO.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: July 16, 2005 2:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties

On 15 Jul 2005 at 22:12, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Stuart:
> 
> I must say that agree with Arthur on this approach. The ADO connection
layer
> allows so much flexibility when writing Access applications. Most of my
> clients initially started out with small applications but as they grew
they
> always moved to a MS SQL or Oracle backend. If I had written the program
in
> DAO it would have been a huge and expensive re-write.
> 

You can still use DAO with SQL Server or Oracle. Just link to the backend 
using an ODBC SQL driver.

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sat Jul 16 08:52:34 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:52:34 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access
Message-ID: <s2d92d4a.089@cactus.dk>

Hi Julie

What is this app doing?

/gustav

>>> prosoft6 at hotmail.com 07/15 8:39 pm >>>
Wow!  This application that I am referring to is being sold right now
across 
the country.  The even have a Quickbooks add-in.  The company that
developed 
it is growing like crazy.  Maybe it's time to make an Access version! 
Thank 
you for your opinions!



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jul 16 13:17:39 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:17:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <42D93323.3667.93F2244@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <0IJQ00IKNG5D2N@l-daemon>

Hi Stuart:

If you have a number of computers users, many far-flung, from you how do you
make sure that the operators have the specific ODBC driver setup and
installed? It traditionally takes a manual installation to set up the
Oracle/SQL drivers. With ADO these drivers are automatically installed on
every computer.

ADO drivers are significantly faster any ODBC driver. Case in point; given a
client using an Oracle ODBC driver to connect from their Access application
to their data. A simple query could take upwards 5 minutes to process
(Especially if it required returning a large amount of data...like a
report). Abandoning the ODBC driver for an ADO-OLE configuration reduced the
process time to less than a minute. 

The only place where DAO shows superior performance to ADO is when it is
connecting to an MDB database but even then it is not a major difference.  

The only time I use the default DAO drivers is when I am trying to
boiler-plate a quickie for a client or a service call on an existing system.
I have not built a major application on the DAO data tier since 1998 so I
apologies for being very prejudice. 

Jim   

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties

On 15 Jul 2005 at 22:12, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Stuart:
> 
> I must say that agree with Arthur on this approach. The ADO connection
layer
> allows so much flexibility when writing Access applications. Most of my
> clients initially started out with small applications but as they grew
they
> always moved to a MS SQL or Oracle backend. If I had written the program
in
> DAO it would have been a huge and expensive re-write.
> 

You can still use DAO with SQL Server or Oracle. Just link to the backend 
using an ODBC SQL driver.

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Jul 16 13:24:03 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:24:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <200507161251.j6GCpSR08661@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <0IJQ00K0XGG1LT@l-daemon>

Hi Arthur:

You have touched on one area where I have no knowledge...trying to connect a
MySQL database without an ODBC driver or designing an ADP project for that
matter. (I guess I should be reading your book?)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 5:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties

Well, with Oracle you have a point, but with MS-SQL, why on earth use ODBC
when you can use an ADP project instead. Does not compute... save and except
that you might need to support both platforms.

But aside from all that, I simply found ADO to be much more understandable
and intuitive than DAO.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: July 16, 2005 2:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties

On 15 Jul 2005 at 22:12, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Stuart:
> 
> I must say that agree with Arthur on this approach. The ADO connection
layer
> allows so much flexibility when writing Access applications. Most of my
> clients initially started out with small applications but as they grew
they
> always moved to a MS SQL or Oracle backend. If I had written the program
in
> DAO it would have been a huge and expensive re-write.
> 

You can still use DAO with SQL Server or Oracle. Just link to the backend 
using an ODBC SQL driver.

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Jul 16 18:45:19 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:45:19 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
Message-ID: <010801c58a60$6cc2b3c0$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Jul 16 20:26:23 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:26:23 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
In-Reply-To: <010801c58a60$6cc2b3c0$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <42DA405F.16144.D5AC9D6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 16 Jul 2005 at 16:45, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:

> Dear List:
> 
> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without the standard access
> background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as it were.  The forms have no max, min, and
> close buttons and no menu or tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
> 

See http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0019.htm

-- 
Stuart




From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sat Jul 16 23:50:10 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:50:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
References: <42DA405F.16144.D5AC9D6@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <018301c58a8b$02f19080$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Hey Stuart, that looks like it!  Thank you.

Regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> On 16 Jul 2005 at 16:45, Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software wrote:
>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without 
>> the standard access
>> background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as it were.  The forms 
>> have no max, min, and
>> close buttons and no menu or tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any 
>> way to do this?
>>
>
> See http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0019.htm
>
> -- 
> Stuart
>
>
> -- 
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> 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Jul 17 05:28:28 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:28:28 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
Message-ID: <s2da4efd.099@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
confusing.
Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely. 
I modified it slightly:

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3

Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
  As Long

Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
  As Long

Public Function fAccessWindow( _
  Optional Procedure As String, _
  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
  As Boolean

  Dim lngState    As Long
  Dim lngReturn   As Long
  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
  
  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp

  If SwitchStatus = False Then
    Select Case Procedure
      Case "Hide"
        lngState = SW_HIDE
      Case "Show", "Normal"
        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
      Case "Minimize"
        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
      Case "Maximize"
        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
      Case Else
        lngState = -1
    End Select
  Else
    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
      lngState = SW_HIDE
    Else
      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
    End If
  End If
  
  If lngState >= 0 Then
    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
  End If

  If StatusCheck = True Then
    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
      booVisible = True
    End If
  End If
  
  fAccessWindow = booVisible

End Function

Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.

/gustav

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
Dear List:

I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without
the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as
it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or
tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com 
858-259-4334



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Sun Jul 17 09:32:34 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 07:32:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
References: <s2da4efd.099@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <005501c58adc$5fa9f820$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Gustav:

This:

"Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden."

is going to be a deal breaker, I think.  I suppose I could "reappear" it for 
the reports, but I wonder if that will look awkward.  I'll test and see.


Thanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> Hi Rocky
>
> I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
> complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
> confusing.
> Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely.
> I modified it slightly:
>
> Option Compare Database
> Option Explicit
>
> Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
> Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3
>
> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
>  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Public Function fAccessWindow( _
>  Optional Procedure As String, _
>  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
>  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
>  As Boolean
>
>  Dim lngState    As Long
>  Dim lngReturn   As Long
>  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
>
>  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp
>
>  If SwitchStatus = False Then
>    Select Case Procedure
>      Case "Hide"
>        lngState = SW_HIDE
>      Case "Show", "Normal"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>      Case "Minimize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>      Case "Maximize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>      Case Else
>        lngState = -1
>    End Select
>  Else
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      lngState = SW_HIDE
>    Else
>      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  If lngState >= 0 Then
>    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
>  End If
>
>  If StatusCheck = True Then
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      booVisible = True
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  fAccessWindow = booVisible
>
> End Function
>
> Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
> Dear List:
>
> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without
> the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as
> it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or
> tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
> -- 
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com 



From Johncliviger at aol.com  Mon Jul 18 06:33:03 2005
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:33:03 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] Finding a record in a subform
Message-ID: <1da.401b6dad.300ced6f@aol.com>

Hi all
This must so easy but my brains are not in gear. I have a form with a  
subform (both in form view) and with  one-to-many relationship. How do I  find a 
particular record in the subform in? 
 
TIA
 
johnc


From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Mon Jul 18 06:49:29 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:19:29 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
References: <s2da4efd.099@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <004d01c58b8e$e0552320$2b1865cb@winxp>

Rocky,

    My sample db named AppointmentsAlert might also be of interest to you. It is available at Rogers Access Library (other developers library). Link - http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com

    It demonstrates a form (without Access background window) to pop-up on the desktop, providing an audio-visual alert for imminent scheduled appointments (if any). The form materializes on top of other applications that might be in use.

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 15:58
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


  Hi Rocky

  I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite confusing.
  Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely. 
  I modified it slightly:

  Option Compare Database
  Option Explicit

  Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
  Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
  Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
  Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3

  Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
    ByVal hwnd As Long) _
    As Long

  Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
    ByVal hwnd As Long, _
    ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
    As Long

  Public Function fAccessWindow( _
    Optional Procedure As String, _
    Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
    Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
    As Boolean

    Dim lngState    As Long
    Dim lngReturn   As Long
    Dim booVisible  As Boolean
    
    MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp

    If SwitchStatus = False Then
      Select Case Procedure
        Case "Hide"
          lngState = SW_HIDE
        Case "Show", "Normal"
          lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
        Case "Minimize"
          lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
        Case "Maximize"
          lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
        Case Else
          lngState = -1
      End Select
    Else
      If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
        lngState = SW_HIDE
      Else
        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
      End If
    End If
    
    If lngState >= 0 Then
      lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
    End If

    If StatusCheck = True Then
      If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
        booVisible = True
      End If
    End If
    
    fAccessWindow = booVisible

  End Function

  Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.

  /gustav

  >>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
  Dear List:

  I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?

  MTIA,

  Rocky Smolin
  Beach Access Software
  http://www.e-z-mrp.com 
  858-259-4334


From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 18 08:18:44 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:18:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access
In-Reply-To: <s2d92d4a.089@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F1922CA555552BD07FF91A99AD50@phx.gbl>

It is a public housing application to trac tenants.



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 18 08:46:24 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:46:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <0IJQ00IKNG5D2N@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F2201C07BBFB91A9207B9189AD50@phx.gbl>

Jim,

That is all very good information.  I am currently working on a DAO project 
and was worried about the references.  Are you saying that if I install ADO 
all of the references appear automatically?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 18 09:05:17 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:05:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
In-Reply-To: <010801c58a60$6cc2b3c0$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <0IJT00K1PTSRR2@l-daemon>

Hi Rocky:

Check out one of the items in the last DBA news letters. It is an article
from Darren Dick on using FTP in access but one of the programs features was
that it removed the background Access frame. See:
http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newsletters/newsletter200503/0503howtocreate
anftpclientwithinaccess/howtocreateanftpclientwithinaccess.htm

Definitely watch for wrap
Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:45 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background

Dear List:

I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without the
standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as it
were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or tool
bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?

MTIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
http://www.e-z-mrp.com
858-259-4334
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Mon Jul 18 09:18:17 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:18:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016D9BE@main2.marlow.com>

Also Rocky, in Access 97, you only need the forms to have the Popup property
set to True.  In A2k and up, you need to set the Modal property to true
also, unless you use slightly different code.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 9:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


Gustav:

This:

"Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden."

is going to be a deal breaker, I think.  I suppose I could "reappear" it for

the reports, but I wonder if that will look awkward.  I'll test and see.


Thanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> Hi Rocky
>
> I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
> complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
> confusing.
> Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely.
> I modified it slightly:
>
> Option Compare Database
> Option Explicit
>
> Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
> Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3
>
> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
>  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Public Function fAccessWindow( _
>  Optional Procedure As String, _
>  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
>  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
>  As Boolean
>
>  Dim lngState    As Long
>  Dim lngReturn   As Long
>  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
>
>  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp
>
>  If SwitchStatus = False Then
>    Select Case Procedure
>      Case "Hide"
>        lngState = SW_HIDE
>      Case "Show", "Normal"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>      Case "Minimize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>      Case "Maximize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>      Case Else
>        lngState = -1
>    End Select
>  Else
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      lngState = SW_HIDE
>    Else
>      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  If lngState >= 0 Then
>    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
>  End If
>
>  If StatusCheck = True Then
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      booVisible = True
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  fAccessWindow = booVisible
>
> End Function
>
> Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
> Dear List:
>
> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without
> the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as
> it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or
> tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 18 09:27:34 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:27:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F2201C07BBFB91A9207B9189AD50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0IJT00J8HUTWN0@l-daemon>

Hi Julie:

No, all references do not appear automatically but all Windows computers
from 98 on have a version of ADO stored in their common file area and once a
reference to that is established it will be virtually guaranteed regardless
of the computer. To check it out, view Program Files/Common
Files/System/ADO, on any Windows computer. If you are using some of the more
recent features of ADO versions, like streaming (great for embedded
pictures) an update may be required. For the latest version check out
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=6C050FE3-C795-4B7D-
B037-185D0506396C&displaylang=en

HTH
Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Julie
Reardon-Taylor
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 6:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties

Jim,

That is all very good information.  I am currently working on a DAO project 
and was worried about the references.  Are you saying that if I install ADO 
all of the references appear automatically?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net


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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Jul 18 09:30:01 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:30:01 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Finding a record in a subform
Message-ID: <20050718142957.E25262512AC@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

Hi John
When you say find a record in the subform are we talking about positioing
the user there? If so how about something along the lines of (not tested):

Dim rst as Recordset

set rst=Me!subThingy.Form.RecordsetClone

rst.FindFirst etc

If Not rst.NoMatch Then
Me!subThingy.Form.Bookmark=rst.Bookmark
End If

rst.Close
Set rst=Nothing

--
Andy Lacey
http://www.minstersystems.co.uk




--------- Original Message --------
From: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "accessD at databaseadvisors.com" <accessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Finding a record in a subform
Date: 18/07/05 11:34


Hi all
This must so easy but my brains are not in gear. I have a form with a
subform (both in form view) and with one-to-many relationship. How do I find
a
particular record in the subform in?

TIA

johnc
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From Johncliviger at aol.com  Mon Jul 18 09:58:34 2005
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:58:34 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] Finding a record in a subform
Message-ID: <12f.614fc445.300d1d9a@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 18/07/2005 15:36:01 GMT Daylight Time,  
andy at minstersystems.co.uk writes:

set  rst=Me!subThingy.Form.RecordsetClone


Hi Andy
 
Thank you for the comments. At the Form level I have the following code and  
it works just fine. 
 
Private Sub FindDealership(varDealership As Variant)
Dim LV As Variant

Dim rec As  DAO.Recordset
Dim strBookmark As  String
On Error Resume Next
LV =  Trim(varDealership)
If IsNull(varDealership)  Then
MsgBox "No Record Found",  vbInformation, "Error!"
Exit  Sub
End  If

Forms!frmOutlets.SetFocus

DoCmd.GoToControl  Forms!frmOutlets!txtName.Name

Set  rec =  Forms!frmOutlets.RecordsetClone

rec.FindFirst "[supplierID] = " & CLng(LV) ' & """"
 
    If Not rec.NoMatch  Then
strBookmark =  rec.Bookmark
Forms!frmOutlets.Bookmark = strBookmark
End If
 
    DoCmd.GoToControl  Forms!frmOutlets!txtName.Name
DoCmd.Close A_FORM,  "fdlgFind"
rec.Close

End Sub
 
 
I've since found that the line that is failing is .. I can't get it to  focus 
on the subform where the recordset 
 
 Forms![frmOutlets]![frm_Rejection]!Form.SetFocus
 
The subform frm_Rejection is both Form name and the local Name. I changed  
that but no change.
 
So...


From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 18 09:59:53 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:59:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VB
	E-book
In-Reply-To: <42D549F7.8090307@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F24229E955FAA4680C5108E9AD50@phx.gbl>

I'd like both of you to sign up for one of these free courses before the 90 
days runs out, specifically, Visual Studio.



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 18 10:01:00 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:01:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Freebie VS 2005 training courses ASP VB SQL and VBE-book
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F24229E955FAA4680C5108E9AD50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F25495D67C8F8132E2080429AD50@phx.gbl>

Sorry.  Wrong e-mail address!



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Jul 18 10:32:17 2005
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:32:17 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Finding a record in a subform
Message-ID: <20050718153214.547AB24F207@smtp.nildram.co.uk>

John

a)You've got a bang where you need a . in front of Form

and b) It looks to me as if you need to set focus to a specific control,
thus

Forms![frmOutlets]![frm_Rejection].Form!txtxyz.SetFocus


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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Finding a record in a subform
Date: 18/07/05 14:59



In a message dated 18/07/2005 15:36:01 GMT Daylight Time,
andy at minstersystems.co.uk writes:

set rst=Me!subThingy.Form.RecordsetClone


Hi Andy

Thank you for the comments. At the Form level I have the following code and
it works just fine.

Private Sub FindDealership(varDealership As Variant)
Dim LV As Variant

Dim rec As DAO.Recordset
Dim strBookmark As String
On Error Resume Next
LV = Trim(varDealership)
If IsNull(varDealership) Then
MsgBox "No Record Found", vbInformation, "Error!"
Exit Sub
End If

Forms!frmOutlets.SetFocus

DoCmd.GoToControl Forms!frmOutlets!txtName.Name

Set rec = Forms!frmOutlets.RecordsetClone

rec.FindFirst "[supplierID] = " & CLng(LV) ' & """"

If Not rec.NoMatch Then
strBookmark = rec.Bookmark
Forms!frmOutlets.Bookmark = strBookmark
End If

DoCmd.GoToControl Forms!frmOutlets!txtName.Name
DoCmd.Close A_FORM, "fdlgFind"
rec.Close

End Sub


I've since found that the line that is failing is .. I can't get it to focus
on the subform where the recordset

Forms![frmOutlets]![frm_Rejection]!Form.SetFocus

The subform frm_Rejection is both Form name and the local Name. I changed
that but no change.

So...
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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Mon Jul 18 14:02:44 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:02:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3D2@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Hi All,

I need to create an application that can perform Material Requirements
Planning (MRP) generation.
I have done a lot of Google searching looking for programming examples with
no luck.

I don't want to recreate the wheel here if there are already some examples
that I could learn from.

Anyone know of how to achieve this or have any links that might point me in
the right direction?

Thanks,
JR




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From john at winhaven.net  Mon Jul 18 15:03:46 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:03:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3D2@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
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Have you checked with Rocky?
http://www.e-z-mrp.com/ 

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Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples

Hi All,

I need to create an application that can perform Material Requirements
Planning (MRP) generation.
I have done a lot of Google searching looking for programming examples with
no luck.

I don't want to recreate the wheel here if there are already some examples
that I could learn from.

Anyone know of how to achieve this or have any links that might point me in
the right direction?

Thanks,
JR




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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Jul 18 15:10:25 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:10:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples
In-Reply-To: <2605777.1121713528462.JavaMail.root@sniper14>
Message-ID: <000c01c58bd4$bda6ccc0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Joe,

A member of this list develops a shrink-wrap product called E Z MRP, but I
don't know who it is.  You can find this on the internet.

Dan Waters

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Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples

Hi All,

I need to create an application that can perform Material Requirements
Planning (MRP) generation.
I have done a lot of Google searching looking for programming examples with
no luck.

I don't want to recreate the wheel here if there are already some examples
that I could learn from.

Anyone know of how to achieve this or have any links that might point me in
the right direction?

Thanks,
JR




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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jul 18 16:07:49 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:07:49 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B20@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Yes, that first one pretty much sums it up. :->

Charlotte Foust


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From: Stuart McLachlan [mailto:stuart at lexacorp.com.pg] 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] File Maker Pro vs. Access


On 15 Jul 2005 at 8:56, Charlotte Foust wrote:

> You can create some incredibly BAD applicatons in File Maker, how bad 
> depends on the version. :-<
> 
> There is very little distinction in FileMaker between the GUI and the 
> data structures and only the latest version actually keeps all the 
> tables and "relationships" in a single file instead of separate files.

> I'm not sure there ARE any "standard" occurrences in FileMaker, but 
> you can download a 30-day free trial of the latest version and play 
> with it to see how it behaves.  It is enough to make any Access 
> developer fall to their knees in gratitude that they don't have to use

> FileMaker!
> 

See:
http://advisorforums.com/dFileMaker001.nsf/0/28b623cbbee234d193b008918e2
948b
8?OpenDocument

A bit old:
http://www.techsoup.org/howto/articlepage.cfm?ArticleId=207&topicid=6


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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 18 16:10:12 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:10:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3D2@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFEEPIEBAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

JR,

  What is it that your looking of examples for? "MRP" covers a lot of
ground; BOM's, Routings, Time Phased Inventory, Purchasing, Quality control,
Scrap and Rejection, Capacity planning, etc.

Jim.

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Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples


Hi All,

I need to create an application that can perform Material Requirements
Planning (MRP) generation.
I have done a lot of Google searching looking for programming examples with
no luck.

I don't want to recreate the wheel here if there are already some examples
that I could learn from.

Anyone know of how to achieve this or have any links that might point me in
the right direction?

Thanks,
JR




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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jul 18 16:12:59 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:12:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Reporting field properties
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A603@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I can't agree with you, Stuart.  I've created split Access databases
with no linked tables using ADO.  DAO would have been useless for that.
DAO is primarily useful in dealing with the Jet engine structures and
peculiarities and is optimized for that purpose.  It tends to fall on
its face when dealing with anything else.  ADO is intended to handle
data access, regardless of datasource, and I prefer it because it is far
more powerful and flexible than DAO in data handling.  It all depends on
what you do with either one of them.

Charlotte Foust


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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 3:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Reporting field properties


On 15 Jul 2005 at 10:38, John W. Colby wrote:

> That's what I thought.  In cases like this it is useful to be able to 
> get at the physical layer.  DAO is occasionally still useful.
> 

Ocassionally?  

If you are working with Jet(using Access as your data store) I don't
know a 
single advantage of ADO over DAO.  I do know several advantages  DAO has

over ADO.

I use ADO in VB regularly, but every time I create a new Access 
application, the first thing I do is remove the ADO reference and
replace 
it with a reference to DAO :-) 

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Tue Jul 19 07:09:06 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:09:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] How big can table get?
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EAF8EF@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

I have a table that I am going to be populating with data. I know the
field types and sizes. Is there a way to estimate the maximum number of
records the table can hold within the database?

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Jul 19 07:25:30 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:25:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How big can table get?
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EAF8EF@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <000901c58c5c$f3c17930$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yes, with the exception of memo fields which can hold anywhere from 0 to 32K
bytes.  A definition of how many bytes are required for each data type is
available out there somewhere.  Just add them up.  An MDB container can
contain 2gbytes IIRC.

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I have a table that I am going to be populating with data. I know the field
types and sizes. Is there a way to estimate the maximum number of records
the table can hold within the database?

 

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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Jul 19 07:29:30 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:29:30 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How big can table get?
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC4C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I think if you have to ask then you probably should consider the back
end being in SQL server. 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:26 AM
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] How big can table get?

Yes, with the exception of memo fields which can hold anywhere from 0 to
32K bytes.  A definition of how many bytes are required for each data
type is available out there somewhere.  Just add them up.  An MDB
container can contain 2gbytes IIRC.

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Subject: [AccessD] How big can table get?


I have a table that I am going to be populating with data. I know the
field types and sizes. Is there a way to estimate the maximum number of
records the table can hold within the database?

 

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From vrm at tim-cms.com  Tue Jul 19 08:10:37 2005
From: vrm at tim-cms.com (Marcel Vreuls)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:10:37 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FC4C@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <200507190907578.SM03480@MarcelPC>

Hi All,


I have been a freelance programmer for about 6 years now. I like the
"freedom" I have got and it helped me al lot. As I have been on and off this
list in the last few years and most of the time reading I thought just drop
the question perhaps someone can help me.

As I had some really heavy problems the last one and a half year I am think
of emigrating to another country (at this time I am living in the
netherlands). Mind you no illegal shit and so, but problems with ex-wife,
child protection, etc. As a father you always start 6-0 behind, have to make
it even and then get your advantage. I do not think this is any different in
other countries so that is not the main reason. The main reason is start all
over again.

Now I have some questions and I hope your experience can help me. I know I
cannot go to another country and go life there. There are all kind of rules
that apply but for this example, I meet those rules

- anyone any ideas how to get a (freelance) job in for example America,
Canada or Australia. Any suggestions, references, contacts, offers and help
are welcome. Here in Holland there are companies, sort of temp offices, who
offer jobs to freelancers where you have to register. Most companies never
do direct business with freelancers. It cost you about 10% of your our rate,
but it is the only way.
- What kind of insurance, taxes do I have to deal with as freelancer?
- How are the rates, salary??
- Any experience with school and after school-support for kids when you are
working??

About me. I am 32 year old, have 1 kid and am MCSE and  MCSD vb6, .NET
certified and about 10 years of hand-on IT experience


Thxs, again,

Marcel






From Johncliviger at aol.com  Tue Jul 19 09:18:08 2005
From: Johncliviger at aol.com (Johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:18:08 EDT
Subject: [AccessD] Finding a record in a subform
Message-ID: <42.6d5f83eb.300e65a0@aol.com>

Andy
 
It works fine now. Thanks. Just one character wrong and the whole job  stops! 
But that programming.
 
Johnc


From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jul 19 09:43:11 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:43:11 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
References: <s2da4efd.099@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <001401c58c70$2feb9040$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Gustav:

There a line of code in there: 

"lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)"

but ShowWindow is undefined.  Is there a snip missing?

Regards,

Rocky


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From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> Hi Rocky
> 
> I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
> complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
> confusing.
> Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely. 
> I modified it slightly:
> 
> Option Compare Database
> Option Explicit
> 
> Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
> Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3
> 
> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
>  As Long
> 
> Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
>  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
>  As Long
> 
> Public Function fAccessWindow( _
>  Optional Procedure As String, _
>  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
>  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
>  As Boolean
> 
>  Dim lngState    As Long
>  Dim lngReturn   As Long
>  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
>  
>  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp
> 
>  If SwitchStatus = False Then
>    Select Case Procedure
>      Case "Hide"
>        lngState = SW_HIDE
>      Case "Show", "Normal"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>      Case "Minimize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>      Case "Maximize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>      Case Else
>        lngState = -1
>    End Select
>  Else
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      lngState = SW_HIDE
>    Else
>      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>    End If
>  End If
>  
>  If lngState >= 0 Then
>    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
>  End If
> 
>  If StatusCheck = True Then
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      booVisible = True
>    End If
>  End If
>  
>  fAccessWindow = booVisible
> 
> End Function
> 
> Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.
> 
> /gustav
> 
>>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
> Dear List:
> 
> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without
> the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as
> it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or
> tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
> 
> MTIA,
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com 
> 858-259-4334
> 
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jul 19 09:59:21 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 07:59:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
References: <s2da4efd.099@cactus.dk> <001401c58c70$2feb9040$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <000a01c58c72$7285d120$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Never mind.  Changed it to apiShowWindwo and it worked.

Rocky

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From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> Gustav:
>
> There a line of code in there:
> "lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)"
>
> but ShowWindow is undefined.  Is there a snip missing?
>
> Regards,
>
> Rocky
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
>
>
>> Hi Rocky
>>
>> I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
>> complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
>> confusing.
>> Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely. I modified 
>> it slightly:
>>
>> Option Compare Database
>> Option Explicit
>>
>> Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
>> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
>> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
>> Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3
>>
>> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
>>  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
>>  As Long
>>
>> Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
>>  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
>>  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
>>  As Long
>>
>> Public Function fAccessWindow( _
>>  Optional Procedure As String, _
>>  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
>>  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
>>  As Boolean
>>
>>  Dim lngState    As Long
>>  Dim lngReturn   As Long
>>  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
>>  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp
>>
>>  If SwitchStatus = False Then
>>    Select Case Procedure
>>      Case "Hide"
>>        lngState = SW_HIDE
>>      Case "Show", "Normal"
>>        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>>      Case "Minimize"
>>        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>>      Case "Maximize"
>>        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>>      Case Else
>>        lngState = -1
>>    End Select
>>  Else
>>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>>      lngState = SW_HIDE
>>    Else
>>      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>>    End If
>>  End If
>>  If lngState >= 0 Then
>>    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
>>  End If
>>
>>  If StatusCheck = True Then
>>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>>      booVisible = True
>>    End If
>>  End If
>>  fAccessWindow = booVisible
>>
>> End Function
>>
>> Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without
>> the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as
>> it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or
>> tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
>>
>> MTIA,
>>
>> Rocky Smolin
>> Beach Access Software
>> http://www.e-z-mrp.com 858-259-4334
>>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Jul 19 10:02:05 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:02:05 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
Message-ID: <s2dd3220.048@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

It's declared in the header, though as Private ...

/gustav

>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/19 4:43 pm >>>
Gustav:

There a line of code in there: 

"lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)"

but ShowWindow is undefined.  Is there a snip missing?

Regards,

Rocky


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> Hi Rocky
> 
> I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
> complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
> confusing.
> Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely. 
> I modified it slightly:
> 
> Option Compare Database
> Option Explicit
> 
> Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
> Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3
> 
> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
>  As Long
> 
> Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
>  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
>  As Long
> 
> Public Function fAccessWindow( _
>  Optional Procedure As String, _
>  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
>  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
>  As Boolean
> 
>  Dim lngState    As Long
>  Dim lngReturn   As Long
>  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
>  
>  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp
> 
>  If SwitchStatus = False Then
>    Select Case Procedure
>      Case "Hide"
>        lngState = SW_HIDE
>      Case "Show", "Normal"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>      Case "Minimize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>      Case "Maximize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>      Case Else
>        lngState = -1
>    End Select
>  Else
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      lngState = SW_HIDE
>    Else
>      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>    End If
>  End If
>  
>  If lngState >= 0 Then
>    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
>  End If
> 
>  If StatusCheck = True Then
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      booVisible = True
>    End If
>  End If
>  
>  fAccessWindow = booVisible
> 
> End Function
> 
> Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.
> 
> /gustav
> 
>>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
> Dear List:
> 
> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear
without
> the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop
as
> it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu
or
> tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
> 
> MTIA,
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com 
> 858-259-4334



From DElam at jenkens.com  Tue Jul 19 11:40:44 2005
From: DElam at jenkens.com (Elam, Debbie)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:40:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
Message-ID: <7B1961ED924D1A459E378C9B1BB22B4C0492CB35@natexch.jenkens.com>

I can't give any advice on other countries, but the US is tough to immigrate
to without employer sponsorship.  If you are determined to stay freelance,
register for the immigration lottery and cross your fingers.

Health insurance is probably a lot more than you would expect since the US
does not have subsidized health care.  As an immigrant, you will probably be
required to carry insurance too instead of relying on the free health care
that is provided for the indigent here.  Employers generally cover a large
portion of health care costs, but if you do not have that, you will need to
bill more to cover this.  A healthy person can generally expect to spend at
least $300/month (probably more) in insurance.  

For taxes, there is more paperwork, but it is not too bad as long as you
stay on top of it.  There are lots of websites for the self employed that
could get you started.

For one or two jobs, you could probably get a temporary work visa without
too much trouble.  This would be of limited assistance though, since once
the work is done, you are in an only slightly better position to be given
permanent residency.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcel Vreuls [mailto:vrm at tim-cms.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment


Hi All,


I have been a freelance programmer for about 6 years now. I like the
"freedom" I have got and it helped me al lot. As I have been on and off this
list in the last few years and most of the time reading I thought just drop
the question perhaps someone can help me.

As I had some really heavy problems the last one and a half year I am think
of emigrating to another country (at this time I am living in the
netherlands). Mind you no illegal shit and so, but problems with ex-wife,
child protection, etc. As a father you always start 6-0 behind, have to make
it even and then get your advantage. I do not think this is any different in
other countries so that is not the main reason. The main reason is start all
over again.

Now I have some questions and I hope your experience can help me. I know I
cannot go to another country and go life there. There are all kind of rules
that apply but for this example, I meet those rules

- anyone any ideas how to get a (freelance) job in for example America,
Canada or Australia. Any suggestions, references, contacts, offers and help
are welcome. Here in Holland there are companies, sort of temp offices, who
offer jobs to freelancers where you have to register. Most companies never
do direct business with freelancers. It cost you about 10% of your our rate,
but it is the only way.
- What kind of insurance, taxes do I have to deal with as freelancer?
- How are the rates, salary??
- Any experience with school and after school-support for kids when you are
working??

About me. I am 32 year old, have 1 kid and am MCSE and  MCSD vb6, .NET
certified and about 10 years of hand-on IT experience


Thxs, again,

Marcel




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From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Tue Jul 19 12:00:54 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:00:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3D5@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Determining requirements, really.
Assuming that I have all the underlying data, I need to figure out how to
generate a Make/Buy report looking at it by time periods.

I just talked to Rocky and using EZ-MRP maybe a solution...
I don't know what is involved in creating my own system so it is hard to
determine which way to go...

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 5:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples

JR,

  What is it that your looking of examples for? "MRP" covers a lot of
ground; BOM's, Routings, Time Phased Inventory, Purchasing, Quality control,
Scrap and Rejection, Capacity planning, etc.

Jim.

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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples


Hi All,

I need to create an application that can perform Material Requirements
Planning (MRP) generation.
I have done a lot of Google searching looking for programming examples with
no luck.

I don't want to recreate the wheel here if there are already some examples
that I could learn from.

Anyone know of how to achieve this or have any links that might point me in
the right direction?

Thanks,
JR




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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jul 19 12:48:39 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:48:39 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
In-Reply-To: <200507190907578.SM03480@MarcelPC>
Message-ID: <0IJV00JG7YT0W9@l-daemon>

Hi Marcel:

You certifications would put you in the top 6% of in-demand programmers,
especially with .Net credentials. (According to one survey I saw.) You would
have to immigrate if you wanted to easily get a job in either US or Canada
but I have no idea about Australia. There are working Visas in Canada and
Green Cards and H1B Visas in the US but you have to get a future 'local'
employer to sponsor you if your want to go that route. Not always easy if
there is a saturated market.

Immigration might be your best choice but you have to have specific
requirements and candidates are selected on a range of things from type of
expertise, age, money, degrees/certifications etc. In Canada, there is a
Federal immigration web site location that you can enter your stats. If you
qualifications add up to 75 points out of a possible 100, you're in. One
friend, who has a degree in Computer Science, married for 10 years, two
kids, owned house, an expert in Java and C++ took 15 days to be cleared into
Canada. On the other-hand another friend, with photography certifications,
took over 6 years to get accepted and it was not until he put a
qualification in an odd 'Multilith News Printer' type that he got the nod.

HTH
Jim        

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Marcel Vreuls
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment

Hi All,


I have been a freelance programmer for about 6 years now. I like the
"freedom" I have got and it helped me al lot. As I have been on and off this
list in the last few years and most of the time reading I thought just drop
the question perhaps someone can help me.

As I had some really heavy problems the last one and a half year I am think
of emigrating to another country (at this time I am living in the
netherlands). Mind you no illegal shit and so, but problems with ex-wife,
child protection, etc. As a father you always start 6-0 behind, have to make
it even and then get your advantage. I do not think this is any different in
other countries so that is not the main reason. The main reason is start all
over again.

Now I have some questions and I hope your experience can help me. I know I
cannot go to another country and go life there. There are all kind of rules
that apply but for this example, I meet those rules

- anyone any ideas how to get a (freelance) job in for example America,
Canada or Australia. Any suggestions, references, contacts, offers and help
are welcome. Here in Holland there are companies, sort of temp offices, who
offer jobs to freelancers where you have to register. Most companies never
do direct business with freelancers. It cost you about 10% of your our rate,
but it is the only way.
- What kind of insurance, taxes do I have to deal with as freelancer?
- How are the rates, salary??
- Any experience with school and after school-support for kids when you are
working??

About me. I am 32 year old, have 1 kid and am MCSE and  MCSD vb6, .NET
certified and about 10 years of hand-on IT experience


Thxs, again,

Marcel




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From darsant at gmail.com  Tue Jul 19 13:15:30 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:15:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
In-Reply-To: <0IJV00JG7YT0W9@l-daemon>
References: <200507190907578.SM03480@MarcelPC> <0IJV00JG7YT0W9@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a05071911157d239483@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/19/05, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Marcel:
> 
> You certifications would put you in the top 6% of in-demand programmers,
> especially with .Net credentials. (According to one survey I saw.) You would
> have to immigrate if you wanted to easily get a job in either US or Canada
> but I have no idea about Australia. There are working Visas in Canada and
> Green Cards and H1B Visas in the US but you have to get a future 'local'
> employer to sponsor you if your want to go that route. Not always easy if
> there is a saturated market.
> 
> Immigration might be your best choice but you have to have specific
> requirements and candidates are selected on a range of things from type of
> expertise, age, money, degrees/certifications etc. In Canada, there is a
> Federal immigration web site location that you can enter your stats. If you
> qualifications add up to 75 points out of a possible 100, you're in. One
> friend, who has a degree in Computer Science, married for 10 years, two
> kids, owned house, an expert in Java and C++ took 15 days to be cleared into
> Canada. On the other-hand another friend, with photography certifications,
> took over 6 years to get accepted and it was not until he put a
> qualification in an odd 'Multilith News Printer' type that he got the nod.
> 
> HTH
> Jim
Took a loko at the test out of curiosity, and it seems like they
dropped the acceptance to 67, so it should be easier for you to get in
now.

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-Albert Einstein


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Jul 19 13:25:10 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:25:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
In-Reply-To: <53c8e05a05071911157d239483@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0IJW0040M0HWWQ@l-daemon>

Totally OT:

I wonder how many Canadian could actually get back into the country once
their citizenship was removed if they had to take the test? What is your bet
30% more, less?

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: work and employment

On 7/19/05, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Marcel:
> 
> You certifications would put you in the top 6% of in-demand programmers,
> especially with .Net credentials. (According to one survey I saw.) You
would
> have to immigrate if you wanted to easily get a job in either US or Canada
> but I have no idea about Australia. There are working Visas in Canada and
> Green Cards and H1B Visas in the US but you have to get a future 'local'
> employer to sponsor you if your want to go that route. Not always easy if
> there is a saturated market.
> 
> Immigration might be your best choice but you have to have specific
> requirements and candidates are selected on a range of things from type of
> expertise, age, money, degrees/certifications etc. In Canada, there is a
> Federal immigration web site location that you can enter your stats. If
you
> qualifications add up to 75 points out of a possible 100, you're in. One
> friend, who has a degree in Computer Science, married for 10 years, two
> kids, owned house, an expert in Java and C++ took 15 days to be cleared
into
> Canada. On the other-hand another friend, with photography certifications,
> took over 6 years to get accepted and it was not until he put a
> qualification in an odd 'Multilith News Printer' type that he got the nod.
> 
> HTH
> Jim
Took a loko at the test out of curiosity, and it seems like they
dropped the acceptance to 67, so it should be easier for you to get in
now.

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jul 19 13:41:34 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:41:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F13237ADD@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Umm... How do you mean 'once their citizenship was removed'? Or is this not
just 'Totally OT' but 'Totally hypothetical' as well? As far as I know you
can't have your citizenship 'removed'. Even in the case of becoming a
naturalized US citizen, where the oath requires you to renounce your
previous citizenship, it does not mean you are no longer a citizen of the
other country, you just say it to get the US passport. The other countries
treat it as a quaint ritual, but you still keep the original citizenship.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: work and employment


Totally OT:

I wonder how many Canadian could actually get back into the country once
their citizenship was removed if they had to take the test? What is your bet
30% more, less?

Jim


From mikedorism at verizon.net  Tue Jul 19 13:48:22 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:48:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F13237ADD@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <000201c58c92$70fefc80$2f01a8c0@dorismanning>

Please move this discussion to the OT list.

Doris Manning
AccessD Moderator

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: work and employment

Umm... How do you mean 'once their citizenship was removed'? Or is this not
just 'Totally OT' but 'Totally hypothetical' as well? As far as I know you
can't have your citizenship 'removed'. Even in the case of becoming a
naturalized US citizen, where the oath requires you to renounce your
previous citizenship, it does not mean you are no longer a citizen of the
other country, you just say it to get the US passport. The other countries
treat it as a quaint ritual, but you still keep the original citizenship.

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: work and employment


Totally OT:

I wonder how many Canadian could actually get back into the country once
their citizenship was removed if they had to take the test? What is your bet
30% more, less?

Jim
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From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 19 17:57:53 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:57:53 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples
In-Reply-To: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3D5@mercury.tnco-inc.com>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFMEGNECAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Joe,

  I have BOM explosion logic that is SQL based and VBA based, which will
generate material requirements that can be time phased.  There are a bunch
of other things that then come into play; Planed orders, demand time fences,
fixed and/or variable lead times, safety stock, minimum order qty, economic
order qty, independent demands, etc

 I can recommend a DB design that has worked well for me over the years.

 But it's a lot of work and a major undertaking to do it right.

Jim.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples


Determining requirements, really.
Assuming that I have all the underlying data, I need to figure out how to
generate a Make/Buy report looking at it by time periods.

I just talked to Rocky and using EZ-MRP maybe a solution...
I don't know what is involved in creating my own system so it is hard to
determine which way to go...

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 5:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples

JR,

  What is it that your looking of examples for? "MRP" covers a lot of
ground; BOM's, Routings, Time Phased Inventory, Purchasing, Quality control,
Scrap and Rejection, Capacity planning, etc.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples


Hi All,

I need to create an application that can perform Material Requirements
Planning (MRP) generation.
I have done a lot of Google searching looking for programming examples with
no luck.

I don't want to recreate the wheel here if there are already some examples
that I could learn from.

Anyone know of how to achieve this or have any links that might point me in
the right direction?

Thanks,
JR




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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Tue Jul 19 18:16:05 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:16:05 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion (BOM) query...
	again
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC00@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Hi folks,
 
I thought I had got over this one years ago and can't find the SQL query
template someone (Lembit???) here kindly supplied last time.  
 
But it has come back to get me again, so....
 
Does someone have a "template" query to return all the parts in an
n-level parts explosion, preferably in binary-tree pre-order order.
* all components, subcomponents and parts are held in the same table, 
* it is a one way tree - i.e. parts that are used in multiple assemblies
appear multiple times in the table (i.e.i.e. the pkey for the tree table
is not the SKU)
 
 
tia
bruce
 
 
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Jul 19 18:49:05 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:49:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion (BOM) query...
	again
References: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC00@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <42DD9171.2010200@shaw.ca>

Do you mean the nested set solution from Joe Celko
It is further written up in his book "SQL for Smarties"
http://www.mvps.org/access/queries/qry0023.htm
or this one
http://www.mvps.org/access/modules/mdl0027.htm

Bruen, Bruce wrote:

>Hi folks,
> 
>I thought I had got over this one years ago and can't find the SQL query
>template someone (Lembit???) here kindly supplied last time.  
> 
>But it has come back to get me again, so....
> 
>Does someone have a "template" query to return all the parts in an
>n-level parts explosion, preferably in binary-tree pre-order order.
>* all components, subcomponents and parts are held in the same table, 
>* it is a one way tree - i.e. parts that are used in multiple assemblies
>appear multiple times in the table (i.e.i.e. the pkey for the tree table
>is not the SKU)
> 
> 
>tia
>bruce
>
>  
>

-- 
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Jul 19 19:00:08 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:00:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment
References: <200507190907578.SM03480@MarcelPC>
Message-ID: <00b201c58cbd$feb3a1e0$6601a8c0@user>

Hi Marcel - Here are some links for Australian immigration. 

Main website:
http://www.immigrationinfoaustralia.com/default.asp?fid=103076

You can also use the website to complete an assessment which will give you a 'score' (based on the points system). Essentially, based on your age, qualifications, family setup, health etc. they allocate you a score and that score can mean that you qualify as a skilled immigrant.

To see that page, go to:

https://www.migrationexpert.com/register.asp?type=1&fid=100135

I'm sure that your qualifications, age and skills would be fairly in demand in Australia - but it depends on what they are looking for at any point in time. A friend of mine's brother  who is mid 30's, married, 3 small children has just qualified to immigrate from Wales - he is a painter (walls, not art) and that is in demand right now.

Good luck.

Kath

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marcel Vreuls 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:10 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] OT: work and employment


  Hi All,


  I have been a freelance programmer for about 6 years now. I like the
  "freedom" I have got and it helped me al lot. As I have been on and off this
  list in the last few years and most of the time reading I thought just drop
  the question perhaps someone can help me.

  As I had some really heavy problems the last one and a half year I am think
  of emigrating to another country (at this time I am living in the
  netherlands). Mind you no illegal shit and so, but problems with ex-wife,
  child protection, etc. As a father you always start 6-0 behind, have to make
  it even and then get your advantage. I do not think this is any different in
  other countries so that is not the main reason. The main reason is start all
  over again.

  Now I have some questions and I hope your experience can help me. I know I
  cannot go to another country and go life there. There are all kind of rules
  that apply but for this example, I meet those rules

  - anyone any ideas how to get a (freelance) job in for example America,
  Canada or Australia. Any suggestions, references, contacts, offers and help
  are welcome. Here in Holland there are companies, sort of temp offices, who
  offer jobs to freelancers where you have to register. Most companies never
  do direct business with freelancers. It cost you about 10% of your our rate,
  but it is the only way.
  - What kind of insurance, taxes do I have to deal with as freelancer?
  - How are the rates, salary??
  - Any experience with school and after school-support for kids when you are
  working??

  About me. I am 32 year old, have 1 kid and am MCSE and  MCSD vb6, .NET
  certified and about 10 years of hand-on IT experience


  Thxs, again,

  Marcel




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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Tue Jul 19 21:18:26 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:18:26 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion (BOM)
	query...again
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC01@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Thanks Marty!
That's the one
bruce 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2005 9:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion (BOM)
query...again

Do you mean the nested set solution from Joe Celko It is further written
up in his book "SQL for Smarties"
http://www.mvps.org/access/queries/qry0023.htm
or this one
http://www.mvps.org/access/modules/mdl0027.htm

Bruen, Bruce wrote:

>Hi folks,
> 
>I thought I had got over this one years ago and can't find the SQL 
>query template someone (Lembit???) here kindly supplied last time.
> 
>But it has come back to get me again, so....
> 
>Does someone have a "template" query to return all the parts in an 
>n-level parts explosion, preferably in binary-tree pre-order order.
>* all components, subcomponents and parts are held in the same table,
>* it is a one way tree - i.e. parts that are used in multiple 
>assemblies appear multiple times in the table (i.e.i.e. the pkey for 
>the tree table is not the SKU)
> 
> 
>tia
>bruce
>
>  
>

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Canada



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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Tue Jul 19 21:20:31 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:20:31 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion (BOM)
	query...again
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC02@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Sorry, I meant Joe Celko's was the one! 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2005 9:49 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion (BOM)
query...again

Do you mean the nested set solution from Joe Celko It is further written
up in his book "SQL for Smarties"
http://www.mvps.org/access/queries/qry0023.htm
or this one
http://www.mvps.org/access/modules/mdl0027.htm

Bruen, Bruce wrote:

>Hi folks,
> 
>I thought I had got over this one years ago and can't find the SQL 
>query template someone (Lembit???) here kindly supplied last time.
> 
>But it has come back to get me again, so....
> 
>Does someone have a "template" query to return all the parts in an 
>n-level parts explosion, preferably in binary-tree pre-order order.
>* all components, subcomponents and parts are held in the same table,
>* it is a one way tree - i.e. parts that are used in multiple 
>assemblies appear multiple times in the table (i.e.i.e. the pkey for 
>the tree table is not the SKU)
> 
> 
>tia
>bruce
>
>  
>

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From robert at servicexp.com  Tue Jul 19 21:33:24 2005
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert Gracie)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:33:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Outlook 2003
Message-ID: <3C6BD610FA11044CADFC8C13E6D5508F4EE0@gbsserver.GBS.local>

 
I have 3 machines, all Win Xp Pro. 2 of the 3 machines I own, the other
at work. The problem is occasionally Outlook 2003 will open and then
immediately shut down. This can go on for several attempts... I have
search the internet and can't seem to find anything about this problem..


Any Idea's

Robert


From JRojas at tnco-inc.com  Wed Jul 20 07:16:55 2005
From: JRojas at tnco-inc.com (Joe Rojas)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:16:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples
Message-ID: <0CC84C9461AE6445AD5A602001C41C4B05A3DC@mercury.tnco-inc.com>

Thanks for the reply Jim,

I would be willing to take what ever you have. I am trying to get a look at
the big picture to see what would be involved it creating this project.

Thanks!
JR

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples

Joe,

  I have BOM explosion logic that is SQL based and VBA based, which will
generate material requirements that can be time phased.  There are a bunch
of other things that then come into play; Planed orders, demand time fences,
fixed and/or variable lead times, safety stock, minimum order qty, economic
order qty, independent demands, etc

 I can recommend a DB design that has worked well for me over the years.

 But it's a lot of work and a major undertaking to do it right.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 1:01 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples


Determining requirements, really.
Assuming that I have all the underlying data, I need to figure out how to
generate a Make/Buy report looking at it by time periods.

I just talked to Rocky and using EZ-MRP maybe a solution...
I don't know what is involved in creating my own system so it is hard to
determine which way to go...

Thanks,
Joe Rojas
IT Manager
TNCO, Inc.
781-447-6661 x7506
jrojas at tnco-inc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Dettman [mailto:jimdettman at earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 5:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples

JR,

  What is it that your looking of examples for? "MRP" covers a lot of
ground; BOM's, Routings, Time Phased Inventory, Purchasing, Quality control,
Scrap and Rejection, Capacity planning, etc.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] MRP Coding Examples


Hi All,

I need to create an application that can perform Material Requirements
Planning (MRP) generation.
I have done a lot of Google searching looking for programming examples with
no luck.

I don't want to recreate the wheel here if there are already some examples
that I could learn from.

Anyone know of how to achieve this or have any links that might point me in
the right direction?

Thanks,
JR




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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 08:00:27 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:00:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] ADH2K - utils - TsiNameFixup90
Message-ID: <20050720130027.4861.qmail@web31610.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi group,

I was browsing the CD A2K Developers handbook volume
2: Enterprise Edition.

I found the following file in:
Z:\Other\TSI\AutocorrectWizard\TsiNameFixup90.dll

It had a readme file (text is below).
However I 'm confused on what to do with the DLL.

I've created a module in wich I instantiate a
TsiNameFixup90.dll object

Public objAutoCorrect As TsiNameFixup90
Set objAutoCorrect = New TsiNameFixup90

The problem is that the objAutoCorrect seems to have
no public interface i.e. there are now
properties/methods when I try the intellisense.

Does anybody know how I can use this DLL?? 

BTW: The AutoCorrect function is really cool!!!!!
SD
------------------------------------------------------
README.txt
------------------------------------------------------
The Access 2000 "Name AutoCorrect" feature is a pretty
cool one. The following is 
an excerpt from the Access 2000 Help topic "What Name
AutoCorrect fixes and 
doesn't fix in an Access Database.":

"In Microsoft Access 97 and previous versions, if you
rename a field in a table, you 
find that the objects based on that field no longer
display the data from that field. 
Microsoft Access 2000 automatically corrects common
side effects that occur when 
you rename forms, reports, tables, queries, fields,
text boxes or other controls in a 
Microsoft Access database. This feature is called Name
AutoCorrect."

As the help topic discusses later on (you can look at
it directly for details) Access 2000 
Name AutoCorrect does not do every possible kind of
name fixup you could possibly need 
when you change the name of an object, field, or
control.  But it does handle many of the 
scenarios that you might want it to.

However, in order for it to work, you need two things:
1) The Tools|Options properties for Name AutoCorrect
must be set to True for the 
database so that Access knows to update the name maps
for the various objects and to
actually do renames as it finds that it needs to.
2) The "name maps" for the various objects must be up
to date.

If you have turned off the properties in #1 above, or
if you are converting a database
from a prior version, your name maps may be incomplete
or non-existent. The only way to
update them is to turn on the properties and then open
each table, query, form, and report
in design view and save.

Thats what this ComAddIn does! It does the work to set
the properties and open/save/close
all of the objects. Certainly easier than doing it all
yourself.

Source is also available for your viewing pleasure.
Its a nice, simple example of a ComAddIn
for Access 2000 that interacts with the Access menus
and object model.

Enjoy!

Michael Kaplan
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jul 20 08:24:12 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:24:12 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion (BOM)
	query...again
Message-ID: <s2de6caf.076@cactus.dk>

Hi Bruce

Have in mind that DAO may be superior regarding speed and ease of
maintenance (no "special" fields needed, just the parent ID, thus no
smart SQL).

Lookup "Tree shaped reports" from 2002-06-02 in the archive.
Maybe my function RecursiveLookup() can guide you ...

This function uses a static recordset and Seek and runs blazingly
fast.

/gustav



>>> Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au 07/20 1:16 am >>>
Hi folks,
 
I thought I had got over this one years ago and can't find the SQL
query template someone (Lembit???) here kindly supplied last time.  
 
But it has come back to get me again, so....
 
Does someone have a "template" query to return all the parts in an
n-level parts explosion, preferably in binary-tree pre-order order.
* all components, subcomponents and parts are held in the same table, 
* it is a one way tree - i.e. parts that are used in multiple
assemblies appear multiple times in the table (i.e.i.e. the pkey for the
tree table is not the SKU)



From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 08:41:57 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:41:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report
Message-ID: <20050720134157.74985.qmail@web31608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi group,

We've got a large Access database 150+ tables, 80+
forms and 175+ reports. Anyway I think it's very big.

I just found the AutoCorrect function and we've got a
big change comming up.

What I want is to build a small app that checks all
code in the application for any changes logged to the
table "Name AutoCorrect Log". 

My Question: How can I retrieve the VBA code in a
form, report, module and/or class?

SD

PS: Yes, I know Total Access Analyzer can do the job
but the fuckers here rather spend ?10.000 then ?1.000
for the application.


		
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jul 20 09:01:39 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:01:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F13237C6D@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Well you are going to have to work with the HasModule and Module properties
of forms and reports. 

But first you should go back to the bean counters and tell them that for the
cost of your development time they could purchase a copy of Rick Fisher's
Find and Replace (just $37 for the Access 2000 and greater version, my
preferred tool - http://www.rickworld.com) every hour or so, or Total Access
Analyzer  every few hours. There is just no point reinventing the wheel when
others before us have already done such a good job.

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:42 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report


Hi group,

We've got a large Access database 150+ tables, 80+
forms and 175+ reports. Anyway I think it's very big.

I just found the AutoCorrect function and we've got a
big change comming up.

What I want is to build a small app that checks all
code in the application for any changes logged to the
table "Name AutoCorrect Log". 

My Question: How can I retrieve the VBA code in a
form, report, module and/or class?

SD

PS: Yes, I know Total Access Analyzer can do the job
but the fuckers here rather spend ?10.000 then ?1.000
for the application.


		
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 20 09:45:04 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:45:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED24@ADGSERVER>

Hey,

In my Access app, I am doing a sort of mail merge using find and replace.
Anyway, I am using a .DOT doc, a temporary doc, and an output doc to do what
I need.  It works fine.

My question is, how can bring Word to the front after the report is
generated?  I am trying to get something to happen like when previewing a
report.

Thanks,
Bobby



From john at winhaven.net  Wed Jul 20 09:46:07 2005
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:46:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report
In-Reply-To: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F13237C6D@xlivmbx21.aig.com>
Message-ID: <200507201446.j6KEk7hM333560@pimout3-ext.prodigy.net>

Agree. Another is Speed Ferret  http://www.speedferret.com/ 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:02 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Sad Der'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report

Well you are going to have to work with the HasModule and Module properties
of forms and reports. 

But first you should go back to the bean counters and tell them that for the
cost of your development time they could purchase a copy of Rick Fisher's
Find and Replace (just $37 for the Access 2000 and greater version, my
preferred tool - http://www.rickworld.com) every hour or so, or Total Access
Analyzer  every few hours. There is just no point reinventing the wheel when
others before us have already done such a good job.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:42 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report


Hi group,

We've got a large Access database 150+ tables, 80+ forms and 175+ reports.
Anyway I think it's very big.

I just found the AutoCorrect function and we've got a big change comming up.

What I want is to build a small app that checks all code in the application
for any changes logged to the table "Name AutoCorrect Log". 

My Question: How can I retrieve the VBA code in a form, report, module
and/or class?

SD

PS: Yes, I know Total Access Analyzer can do the job but the fuckers here
rather spend ?10.000 then ?1.000 for the application.


		
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 09:52:46 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:52:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED24@ADGSERVER>
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED24@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920507200752349262f3@mail.gmail.com>

On 20/07/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:

> My question is, how can bring Word to the front after the report is
> generated?  I am trying to get something to happen like when previewing a
> report.

Assuming that objWord is a reference to your Word Object you can use:

objWord.Visible = True
ObjWord.Activate

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 20 10:19:34 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:19:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B29@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Or MZ-Tools 3.0 (free).  http://www.mztools.com 

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:46 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class,
report


Agree. Another is Speed Ferret  http://www.speedferret.com/ 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:02 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Sad Der'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class,
report

Well you are going to have to work with the HasModule and Module
properties of forms and reports. 

But first you should go back to the bean counters and tell them that for
the cost of your development time they could purchase a copy of Rick
Fisher's Find and Replace (just $37 for the Access 2000 and greater
version, my preferred tool - http://www.rickworld.com) every hour or so,
or Total Access Analyzer  every few hours. There is just no point
reinventing the wheel when others before us have already done such a
good job.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Sad Der
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:42 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report


Hi group,

We've got a large Access database 150+ tables, 80+ forms and 175+
reports. Anyway I think it's very big.

I just found the AutoCorrect function and we've got a big change comming
up.

What I want is to build a small app that checks all code in the
application for any changes logged to the table "Name AutoCorrect Log". 

My Question: How can I retrieve the VBA code in a form, report, module
and/or class?

SD

PS: Yes, I know Total Access Analyzer can do the job but the fuckers
here rather spend ?10.000 then ?1.000 for the application.


		
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 20 10:21:30 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:21:30 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] ADH2K - utils - TsiNameFixup90
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B2A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Before you get too excited about Name Autocorrect, remember that it has
also been implicated in every weird Access problem imaginable.  I turn
it off by default and avoid a lot of headaches.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Sad Der [mailto:accessd666 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:00 AM
To: Acces User Group
Subject: [AccessD] ADH2K - utils - TsiNameFixup90


Hi group,

I was browsing the CD A2K Developers handbook volume
2: Enterprise Edition.

I found the following file in:
Z:\Other\TSI\AutocorrectWizard\TsiNameFixup90.dll

It had a readme file (text is below).
However I 'm confused on what to do with the DLL.

I've created a module in wich I instantiate a TsiNameFixup90.dll object

Public objAutoCorrect As TsiNameFixup90
Set objAutoCorrect = New TsiNameFixup90

The problem is that the objAutoCorrect seems to have
no public interface i.e. there are now
properties/methods when I try the intellisense.

Does anybody know how I can use this DLL?? 

BTW: The AutoCorrect function is really cool!!!!!
SD
------------------------------------------------------
README.txt
------------------------------------------------------
The Access 2000 "Name AutoCorrect" feature is a pretty
cool one. The following is 
an excerpt from the Access 2000 Help topic "What Name AutoCorrect fixes
and 
doesn't fix in an Access Database.":

"In Microsoft Access 97 and previous versions, if you
rename a field in a table, you 
find that the objects based on that field no longer
display the data from that field. 
Microsoft Access 2000 automatically corrects common
side effects that occur when 
you rename forms, reports, tables, queries, fields,
text boxes or other controls in a 
Microsoft Access database. This feature is called Name AutoCorrect."

As the help topic discusses later on (you can look at
it directly for details) Access 2000 
Name AutoCorrect does not do every possible kind of
name fixup you could possibly need 
when you change the name of an object, field, or
control.  But it does handle many of the 
scenarios that you might want it to.

However, in order for it to work, you need two things:
1) The Tools|Options properties for Name AutoCorrect
must be set to True for the 
database so that Access knows to update the name maps
for the various objects and to
actually do renames as it finds that it needs to.
2) The "name maps" for the various objects must be up
to date.

If you have turned off the properties in #1 above, or
if you are converting a database
from a prior version, your name maps may be incomplete
or non-existent. The only way to
update them is to turn on the properties and then open
each table, query, form, and report
in design view and save.

Thats what this ComAddIn does! It does the work to set
the properties and open/save/close
all of the objects. Certainly easier than doing it all yourself.

Source is also available for your viewing pleasure.
Its a nice, simple example of a ComAddIn
for Access 2000 that interacts with the Access menus
and object model.

Enjoy!

Michael Kaplan
Trigeminal Software, Inc.


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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 11:26:25 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:26:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B29@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <20050720162625.2794.qmail@web31602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thnx, for the replies!

Charlotte....MZ-Tools we've got that one. Is it
possible to do what i described below?

SD

--- Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
wrote:

> Or MZ-Tools 3.0 (free).  http://www.mztools.com 
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:46 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form,
> module, class,
> report
> 
> 
> Agree. Another is Speed Ferret 
> http://www.speedferret.com/ 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:02 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving'
> Cc: 'Sad Der'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form,
> module, class,
> report
> 
> Well you are going to have to work with the
> HasModule and Module
> properties of forms and reports. 
> 
> But first you should go back to the bean counters
> and tell them that for
> the cost of your development time they could
> purchase a copy of Rick
> Fisher's Find and Replace (just $37 for the Access
> 2000 and greater
> version, my preferred tool -
> http://www.rickworld.com) every hour or so,
> or Total Access Analyzer  every few hours. There is
> just no point
> reinventing the wheel when others before us have
> already done such a
> good job.
> 
> Lambert
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Sad Der
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:42 AM
> To: Acces User Group
> Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form,
> module, class, report
> 
> 
> Hi group,
> 
> We've got a large Access database 150+ tables, 80+
> forms and 175+
> reports. Anyway I think it's very big.
> 
> I just found the AutoCorrect function and we've got
> a big change comming
> up.
> 
> What I want is to build a small app that checks all
> code in the
> application for any changes logged to the table
> "Name AutoCorrect Log". 
> 
> My Question: How can I retrieve the VBA code in a
> form, report, module
> and/or class?
> 
> SD
> 
> PS: Yes, I know Total Access Analyzer can do the job
> but the fuckers
> here rather spend ?10.000 then ?1.000 for the
> application.
> 
> 
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 20 11:50:04 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:50:04 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C25FC6@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED28@ADGSERVER>

Hey Bryan,

I have done that, it flashes up than access comes back up over it.  Now note
that I am manually calling the function from the immediate window.  That may
be making it act differently.  I'm currently working on a form at the moment
to call the code from.  I'll post the results.

Thanks,
Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A Word question


On 20/07/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:

> My question is, how can bring Word to the front after the report is
> generated?  I am trying to get something to happen like when previewing a
> report.

Assuming that objWord is a reference to your Word Object you can use:

objWord.Visible = True
ObjWord.Activate

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 20 12:38:10 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:38:10 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED28@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <42DE8C02.8030807@shaw.ca>

Just a hint check your task manager processes occassionally when debugging
the use of word this way,  and delete all the unused word.exe that will 
probably left orphaned.
I have wondered why my machine was getting sluggish and found 20 copies 
left running a day later..


Bobby Heid wrote:

>Hey Bryan,
>
>I have done that, it flashes up than access comes back up over it.  Now note
>that I am manually calling the function from the immediate window.  That may
>be making it act differently.  I'm currently working on a form at the moment
>to call the code from.  I'll post the results.
>
>Thanks,
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
>Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:53 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] A Word question
>
>
>On 20/07/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>My question is, how can bring Word to the front after the report is
>>generated?  I am trying to get something to happen like when previewing a
>>report.
>>    
>>
>
>Assuming that objWord is a reference to your Word Object you can use:
>
>objWord.Visible = True
>ObjWord.Activate
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 20 12:47:49 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:47:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C26058@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED2D@ADGSERVER>

Thanks for the hint.  I have frequently checked for this as I have heard
this before.  My code looks for an existing copy of word and uses that if
available, else it creates an instance.  

Thanks,
Bobby

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:38 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A Word question


Just a hint check your task manager processes occassionally when debugging
the use of word this way,  and delete all the unused word.exe that will 
probably left orphaned.
I have wondered why my machine was getting sluggish and found 20 copies 
left running a day later..



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 20 13:10:46 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:10:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class, report
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A627@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I'm not clear on exactly what you want to do with the tool.  MZ-Tools
will do find and replace, as will the other apps suggested, but beyond
that, what do you want it to do?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Sad Der [mailto:accessd666 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:26 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class,
report


Thnx, for the replies!

Charlotte....MZ-Tools we've got that one. Is it
possible to do what i described below?

SD

--- Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
wrote:

> Or MZ-Tools 3.0 (free).  http://www.mztools.com
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bartow [mailto:john at winhaven.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:46 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form,
> module, class,
> report
> 
> 
> Agree. Another is Speed Ferret
> http://www.speedferret.com/ 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Heenan,
> Lambert
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:02 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving'
> Cc: 'Sad Der'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form,
> module, class,
> report
> 
> Well you are going to have to work with the
> HasModule and Module
> properties of forms and reports.
> 
> But first you should go back to the bean counters
> and tell them that for
> the cost of your development time they could
> purchase a copy of Rick
> Fisher's Find and Replace (just $37 for the Access
> 2000 and greater
> version, my preferred tool -
> http://www.rickworld.com) every hour or so,
> or Total Access Analyzer  every few hours. There is
> just no point
> reinventing the wheel when others before us have
> already done such a
> good job.
> 
> Lambert
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Sad Der
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:42 AM
> To: Acces User Group
> Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form,
> module, class, report
> 
> 
> Hi group,
> 
> We've got a large Access database 150+ tables, 80+
> forms and 175+
> reports. Anyway I think it's very big.
> 
> I just found the AutoCorrect function and we've got
> a big change comming
> up.
> 
> What I want is to build a small app that checks all
> code in the
> application for any changes logged to the table
> "Name AutoCorrect Log".
> 
> My Question: How can I retrieve the VBA code in a
> form, report, module
> and/or class?
> 
> SD
> 
> PS: Yes, I know Total Access Analyzer can do the job
> but the fuckers
> here rather spend ?10.000 then ?1.000 for the
> application.
> 
> 
> 		
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Wed Jul 20 13:10:39 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:10:39 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED28@ADGSERVER>
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C25FC6@ADGSERVER>
	<916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED28@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920507201110204a6a3a@mail.gmail.com>

On 20/07/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:

> I have done that, it flashes up than access comes back up over it.  Now note
> that I am manually calling the function from the immediate window.  That may
> be making it act differently.  I'm currently working on a form at the moment
> to call the code from.  I'll post the results.

I tested it out from a procedure and a command button on a form in A2K
and Word stayed on top.

Access probably poped back to the front because the focus shifted back
to the debug window.

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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Jul 20 13:28:05 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:28:05 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Retrieve VBA Code in a form, module, class,
	report
Message-ID: <s2deb3f3.086@cactus.dk>

Hi Sad

You can extract the complete form to a textfile like this:

  SaveAsText acForm, "frmTest", "d:\frmTest.txt"

That will dump everything the form contains including bitmaps.
The last section begins with the line with this single word:

CodeBehindForm

The text after this will be your code.

If you edit the file, the form can be read (into an empty database) by


  LoadFromText acForm, "frmTest", "d:\frmTest.txt"

/gustav

> My Question: How can I retrieve the VBA code in a form, report,
module and/or class?



From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Jul 20 19:35:24 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:35:24 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] BIT OT: Any VB Gurus out there?
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA8836136AD@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Team
Working on VB code.
Code works fine in 98/ME (Shudder) but there are visual issues and
errors in 2000 or XP

The code 'draws' lines/coordinates into a Picture Box 
We have managed to get the code to kinda work in XP by changing A few
integers to longs.
Names are -
"frm_Control" for the VB Form
"ssTab" for the Tab Control
"Picture1" for the picture Box

But here's the thing

In 98/ME the drawing is done and you see the lines after clicking a
button. Lovely.
With the modified code in XP the code draws the lines but you don't see
'em.
But if you click on a Tab then come back to the PictureBox in question
then you see the lines.

So how do I refresh the contents of a picture box in VB?

Frm_Control.Picture1.Requery Doesn't work  - I get
Compile Error 
Method or Data member not found

So...any suggestions on how to 'redraw' or 'refresh' or 'requery' this
thing with out changing tabs.
BTW - There is very little code in the TabChange code. It has nothing to
do with repainting etc.

Many thanks

Darren


From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Wed Jul 20 19:45:51 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:45:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] BIT OT: Any VB Gurus out there?
References: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA8836136AD@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <000901c58d8d$8ceacb30$0302a8c0@default>

Darren,

Have you set AutoRedraw = True?
If not, and using a blt method, try Picture1.Refresh.

----

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Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Dick" <D.Dick at uws.edu.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 8:35 PM
Subject: [AccessD] BIT OT: Any VB Gurus out there?


> Hi Team
> Working on VB code.
> Code works fine in 98/ME (Shudder) but there are visual issues and
> errors in 2000 or XP
>
> The code 'draws' lines/coordinates into a Picture Box
> We have managed to get the code to kinda work in XP by changing A few
> integers to longs.
> Names are -
> "frm_Control" for the VB Form
> "ssTab" for the Tab Control
> "Picture1" for the picture Box
>
> But here's the thing
>
> In 98/ME the drawing is done and you see the lines after clicking a
> button. Lovely.
> With the modified code in XP the code draws the lines but you don't see
> 'em.
> But if you click on a Tab then come back to the PictureBox in question
> then you see the lines.
>
> So how do I refresh the contents of a picture box in VB?
>
> Frm_Control.Picture1.Requery Doesn't work  - I get
> Compile Error
> Method or Data member not found
>
> So...any suggestions on how to 'redraw' or 'refresh' or 'requery' this
> thing with out changing tabs.
> BTW - There is very little code in the TabChange code. It has nothing to
> do with repainting etc.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Darren
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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jul 20 20:00:54 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:00:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion
	(BOM)query...again
In-Reply-To: <s2de6caf.076@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <200507210100.j6L10pR24439@databaseadvisors.com>

I will look at this and hope to mine some useful stuff from it.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: July 20, 2005 9:24 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] the dreaded n-recursive parts explosion
(BOM)query...again

Hi Bruce

Have in mind that DAO may be superior regarding speed and ease of
maintenance (no "special" fields needed, just the parent ID, thus no
smart SQL).

Lookup "Tree shaped reports" from 2002-06-02 in the archive.
Maybe my function RecursiveLookup() can guide you ...

This function uses a static recordset and Seek and runs blazingly
fast.

/gustav



>>> Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au 07/20 1:16 am >>>
Hi folks,
 
I thought I had got over this one years ago and can't find the SQL
query template someone (Lembit???) here kindly supplied last time.  
 
But it has come back to get me again, so....
 
Does someone have a "template" query to return all the parts in an
n-level parts explosion, preferably in binary-tree pre-order order.
* all components, subcomponents and parts are held in the same table, 
* it is a one way tree - i.e. parts that are used in multiple
assemblies appear multiple times in the table (i.e.i.e. the pkey for the
tree table is not the SKU)

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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jul 20 20:03:36 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:03:36 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920507200752349262f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200507210103.j6L13XR25238@databaseadvisors.com>

You have supplied so many useful answers to this thread and others, Bryan,
that I must ask, Where are you getting your insights? I have tried various
searches and not even got close to the info you so readily supply.

A.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: July 20, 2005 10:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A Word question

On 20/07/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:

> My question is, how can bring Word to the front after the report is
> generated?  I am trying to get something to happen like when previewing a
> report.

Assuming that objWord is a reference to your Word Object you can use:

objWord.Visible = True
ObjWord.Activate

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Jul 20 21:05:25 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:05:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] BIT OT: Any VB Gurus out there?
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA8836137E0@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Michael
Excellent
Many thanks - I think the Autodraw = true is the answer
It is at least on my Dev machine
I'll try it out at the clients machine today

Many many thanks

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael R
Mattys
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] BIT OT: Any VB Gurus out there?

Darren,

Have you set AutoRedraw = True?
If not, and using a blt method, try Picture1.Refresh.

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Dick" <D.Dick at uws.edu.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 8:35 PM
Subject: [AccessD] BIT OT: Any VB Gurus out there?


> Hi Team
> Working on VB code.
> Code works fine in 98/ME (Shudder) but there are visual issues and 
> errors in 2000 or XP
>
> The code 'draws' lines/coordinates into a Picture Box We have managed 
> to get the code to kinda work in XP by changing A few integers to 
> longs.
> Names are -
> "frm_Control" for the VB Form
> "ssTab" for the Tab Control
> "Picture1" for the picture Box
>
> But here's the thing
>
> In 98/ME the drawing is done and you see the lines after clicking a 
> button. Lovely.
> With the modified code in XP the code draws the lines but you don't 
> see 'em.
> But if you click on a Tab then come back to the PictureBox in question

> then you see the lines.
>
> So how do I refresh the contents of a picture box in VB?
>
> Frm_Control.Picture1.Requery Doesn't work  - I get Compile Error 
> Method or Data member not found
>
> So...any suggestions on how to 'redraw' or 'refresh' or 'requery' this

> thing with out changing tabs.
> BTW - There is very little code in the TabChange code. It has nothing 
> to do with repainting etc.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Darren
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Thu Jul 21 07:16:24 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:16:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
In-Reply-To: <200507210103.j6L13XR25238@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <e04a6c920507200752349262f3@mail.gmail.com>
	<200507210103.j6L13XR25238@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c92050721051628bed39d@mail.gmail.com>

On 20/07/05, Arthur Fuller <artful at rogers.com> wrote:

> You have supplied so many useful answers to this thread and others, Bryan,
> that I must ask, Where are you getting your insights? I have tried various
> searches and not even got close to the info you so readily supply.

BFI. Brute Force and Ignorance. :-)

Honestly, its just that I have done a LOT of Word, Access/Word,
Excel/Word programming over the past several years, that I have come
across a bunch of these things already. That's it. Just experience
with various bits of the Word Object model.

-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jul 21 07:40:28 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:40:28 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] A Word question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C26074@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED33@ADGSERVER>

I believe that the problem with word not coming to the front did have to do
with using the debug window.

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A Word question


On 20/07/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:

> I have done that, it flashes up than access comes back up over it.  Now
note
> that I am manually calling the function from the immediate window.  That
may
> be making it act differently.  I'm currently working on a form at the
moment
> to call the code from.  I'll post the results.

I tested it out from a procedure and a command button on a form in A2K
and Word stayed on top.

Access probably poped back to the front because the focus shifted back
to the debug window.

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Jul 21 08:41:15 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:41:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Micrometer or Caliper Data Direct to Access
Message-ID: <000001c58df9$dfff22a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Hello all!

 

Many hand measuring instruments have an electronic component that is used to
send measurement data to a PC, given the right software.  The way this works
is to measure an item, then push a button on the instrument to send the
measurement info to a PC.  

 

I'd like to find out if anyone has experience working with these instruments
and collecting the data in an Access database, and could steer in good
directions and away from poor ones!

 

Thanks!

Dan Waters



From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Jul 21 16:00:02 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:00:02 (MET DST)
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox
Message-ID: <200507211400.j6LE02D6011976@mailhostC.plex.net>

Hello Group,

is it possible, when opening a listbox with a long list of values, it opens always with the first value. Is it possible to open with the last values.

Pedro Janssen


From Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org  Thu Jul 21 09:02:37 2005
From: Jdemarco at hudsonhealthplan.org (Jim DeMarco)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:02:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox
Message-ID: <08F823FD83787D4BA0B99CA580AD3C74016C3B98@TTNEXCHCL2.hshhp.com>

Pedro

Why not just reverse your sort then?

Jim DeMarco

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of pedro at plex.nl
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:00 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox


Hello Group,

is it possible, when opening a listbox with a long list of values, it opens always with the first value. Is it possible to open with the last values.

Pedro Janssen
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Thu Jul 21 09:03:37 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:03:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox
In-Reply-To: <200507211400.j6LE02D6011976@mailhostC.plex.net>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAKBzI62YxaVKgIhohcU0vwcBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Pedro,

I think you can do this using the ListIndex Property, if you know how many
values there are I think you can do the following:

	MyListbox.ListIndex = (YourCountOfValuesInList-1)

Paul Hartland 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of pedro at plex.nl
Sent: 21 July 2005 16:00
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox

Hello Group,

is it possible, when opening a listbox with a long list of values, it opens
always with the first value. Is it possible to open with the last values.

Pedro Janssen
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From R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk  Thu Jul 21 10:19:20 2005
From: R.Griffiths at bury.gov.uk (Griffiths, Richard)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:19:20 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox
Message-ID: <200507211509.j6LF9tr17042@smarthost.yourcomms.net>

Try

Me.List0.ListIndex = Me.List0.ListCount - 1


Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of pedro at plex.nl
Sent: 21 July 2005 17:00
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox


Hello Group,

is it possible, when opening a listbox with a long list of values, it
opens always with the first value. Is it possible to open with the last
values.

Pedro Janssen
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jul 21 10:28:18 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:28:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A63A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Try something like this (warning:  air code)

Me.lstListBox.Selected(Me.lstListBox.ItemData(Me.lstListBox.ListCount-1)
) = True    

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: pedro at plex.nl [mailto:pedro at plex.nl] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:00 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox


Hello Group,

is it possible, when opening a listbox with a long list of values, it
opens always with the first value. Is it possible to open with the last
values.

Pedro Janssen
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jul 21 11:05:27 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:05:27 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Micrometer or Caliper Data Direct to Access
References: <000001c58df9$dfff22a0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <42DFC7C7.5020502@shaw.ca>

http://www.taltech.com
I have used these products a couple of years ago. Might be a tad 
expensive, as you can write your own
code via mscomm.ocx, which I think is installed or licensed from VB6 . 
However you may have problems
writing code to handle sampling stream rates and line drops and all the 
possible error conditions that this software covers.
If your requirements are really simple you might just get away with 
using mscomm. Lots of net examples.

Input RS232 data directly into Excel, Access, or any Windows 
application. WinWedge provides real-time data collection from any serial 
device or instrument. TCP-Wedge software provides data collection from 
any TCP/IP network. Send and receive RS232 data across a TCP/IP port 
with TCP/Com serial to TCP/IP converter software. In other words just 
drop your instrument on the net.

Lots of useful test software here like code for a breakout box, there 
are articles on the site explaining methods.
However it appears they dumped one useful example in VB, it was too good.
http://www.taltech.com/freesoftware/fs_sw.htm

This site also may have good software suggestions and methods
National Instruments.
http://www.ni.com

Dan Waters wrote:

>Hello all!
>
> 
>
>Many hand measuring instruments have an electronic component that is used to
>send measurement data to a PC, given the right software.  The way this works
>is to measure an item, then push a button on the instrument to send the
>measurement info to a PC.  
>
> 
>
>I'd like to find out if anyone has experience working with these instruments
>and collecting the data in an Access database, and could steer in good
>directions and away from poor ones!
>
> 
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dan Waters
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Jul 21 12:41:57 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:41:57 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox
Message-ID: <s2dffa99.004@cactus.dk>

Hi Pedro

Your listbox may not have settled at the OnCurrent event of the form.

Thus, create a textbox and set the controlsource to:

  =SetListboxLast()

and create this function in the code module of the form:

Private Function SetListboxLast()

  ' Set listbox lstDemo to the last entry.

  With Me!lstDemo
    If IsNull(.Value) Then
      .Value = .ItemData(.ListCount - 1)
    End If
  End With
  
End Function

Then, shortly after the form has opened, the listbox is set to its last
value.
This is for a single-select listbox.

/gustav


>>> pedro at plex.nl 07/21 4:00 pm >>>
Hello Group,

is it possible, when opening a listbox with a long list of values, it
opens always with the first value. Is it possible to open with the last
values.

Pedro Janssen



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jul 21 13:31:17 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:31:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED3E@ADGSERVER>

Me again,

I am generating 1-2 tables per page on this report that I'm doing in word
via automation.  It takes, on average, 1.8 seconds to create one page.  This
is an average from 406 pages.  In trying to make it faster, I have
determined that the table code takes 66% of the time it takes to create a
page.  Note that the tables can have a variable number of items in it.

I am including the relevant bits of code.  I know it is a lot to look
through so it's ok if you want to stop here.  The one second saved still has
the recordset stuff in it, so that is not the bottleneck.

Anyone have any ideas as to how I may speed this up?  I have included what a
finished table looks like at the end of this email.

Thanks,
Bobby

This is what I'm doing (for each table):
If Not rs2.EOF Then
               rs2.MoveLast
               rs2.MoveFirst
		   'add the table
               Set wrdTableWC = wrdDocTmp.Tables.Add(.Selection.Range,
rs2.RecordCount + 3, 3)
		   'format the table and create headers
               SetUpTable wrdApp, wrdTableWC, "Workers' Compensation", "WC",
rs2.RecordCount + 3
               End If
                            
               i = 3
               Do While Not rs2.EOF
                  With wrdTableWC
                     .Cell(i, 1).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Description], "")
                     .Cell(i, 2).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Code], "")
                     .Cell(i, 3).Range.Text = "$"
                     End With
                     
                  rs2.MoveNext
                  i = i + 1
                  Loop
                  
            rs2.Close
            End If

'set up the table by formatting cells and writing static text
Private Sub SetUpTable(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object,
ByVal strTitle As String, _
   ByVal strType As String, ByVal lLast As Long)
Dim wrdRow  As Object

   On Error GoTo Proc_Err

            With wrdTable
               .Borders.InsideLineStyle = 1
'wdLineStyleSingle
               .Borders.OutsideLineStyle = 7
'wdLineStyleDouble
               .Columns(1).Width = 250
               .Columns(2).Width = 60
               .Columns(3).Width = 200
               End With
               
            '1st row set to caption
            Set wrdRow = wrdTable.Rows(1)
            wrdRow.cells.Merge
            wrdRow.Shading.Texture = 250           'wdTexture25Percent
            With wrdTable.Cell(1, 1).Range
               .Font.Size = 14
               .Font.Bold = True
               .Paragraphs.Alignment = 1         'wdAlignRowCenter
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 1, 1, strTitle, False
               
            With wrdTable
               .Cell(2, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 0
'wdAlignRowLeft
               .Cell(2, 2).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(2, 3).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(lLast, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 2
'wdAlignRowRight
               .Cell(lLast, 2).Range.Shading.BackgroundPatternColorIndex =
16  'wdGray25
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 1, strType & " Classification
Description", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 2, strType & " Code", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 3, "Actual Payroll", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 1, "Total", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 3, "$", False

End sub 


'write a cell in the table
Private Sub WriteCell3(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object, _
   ByVal x As Long, ByVal y As Long, ByVal strData As String, ByRef bBold As
Boolean)

   wrdTable.Cell(x, y).SELECT
   wrdApp.Selection.Font.Bold = bBold
   wrdApp.Selection.TypeText strData
   
End Sub



I hope this will come across to the list.
 
Workers' Compensation	
WC Classification Description	WC Code	Actual Payroll	
Stone Install	1803	$	
Tile Work	5348	$	
Carpentry	5437	$	
Carpet, Vinyl Install	5478	$	
Executive Supervisors	5606	$	
Total		$	

 
General Liablity	
GL Classification Description	GL Code	Actual Payroll	
Executive Supervisors	91580	$	
Floor Covering Install	94569	$	
Tile Install Interior	99746	$	
Total		$	



From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jul 21 13:41:58 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:41:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED3E@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <200507211842.j6LIg0R24629@databaseadvisors.com>

Wow, that is a lot to think about, Bobby! But thank you for opening my eyes
as to how to deal with this sort of problem. It may be a while before I am
into it enough to offer suggestions for optimizing it, however. But thanks
for the insights!

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: July 21, 2005 2:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...

Me again,

I am generating 1-2 tables per page on this report that I'm doing in word
via automation.  It takes, on average, 1.8 seconds to create one page.  This
is an average from 406 pages.  In trying to make it faster, I have
determined that the table code takes 66% of the time it takes to create a
page.  Note that the tables can have a variable number of items in it.

I am including the relevant bits of code.  I know it is a lot to look
through so it's ok if you want to stop here.  The one second saved still has
the recordset stuff in it, so that is not the bottleneck.

Anyone have any ideas as to how I may speed this up?  I have included what a
finished table looks like at the end of this email.

Thanks,
Bobby

This is what I'm doing (for each table):
If Not rs2.EOF Then
               rs2.MoveLast
               rs2.MoveFirst
		   'add the table
               Set wrdTableWC = wrdDocTmp.Tables.Add(.Selection.Range,
rs2.RecordCount + 3, 3)
		   'format the table and create headers
               SetUpTable wrdApp, wrdTableWC, "Workers' Compensation", "WC",
rs2.RecordCount + 3
               End If
                            
               i = 3
               Do While Not rs2.EOF
                  With wrdTableWC
                     .Cell(i, 1).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Description], "")
                     .Cell(i, 2).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Code], "")
                     .Cell(i, 3).Range.Text = "$"
                     End With
                     
                  rs2.MoveNext
                  i = i + 1
                  Loop
                  
            rs2.Close
            End If

'set up the table by formatting cells and writing static text
Private Sub SetUpTable(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object,
ByVal strTitle As String, _
   ByVal strType As String, ByVal lLast As Long)
Dim wrdRow  As Object

   On Error GoTo Proc_Err

            With wrdTable
               .Borders.InsideLineStyle = 1
'wdLineStyleSingle
               .Borders.OutsideLineStyle = 7
'wdLineStyleDouble
               .Columns(1).Width = 250
               .Columns(2).Width = 60
               .Columns(3).Width = 200
               End With
               
            '1st row set to caption
            Set wrdRow = wrdTable.Rows(1)
            wrdRow.cells.Merge
            wrdRow.Shading.Texture = 250           'wdTexture25Percent
            With wrdTable.Cell(1, 1).Range
               .Font.Size = 14
               .Font.Bold = True
               .Paragraphs.Alignment = 1         'wdAlignRowCenter
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 1, 1, strTitle, False
               
            With wrdTable
               .Cell(2, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 0
'wdAlignRowLeft
               .Cell(2, 2).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(2, 3).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(lLast, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 2
'wdAlignRowRight
               .Cell(lLast, 2).Range.Shading.BackgroundPatternColorIndex =
16  'wdGray25
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 1, strType & " Classification
Description", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 2, strType & " Code", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 3, "Actual Payroll", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 1, "Total", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 3, "$", False

End sub 


'write a cell in the table
Private Sub WriteCell3(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object, _
   ByVal x As Long, ByVal y As Long, ByVal strData As String, ByRef bBold As
Boolean)

   wrdTable.Cell(x, y).SELECT
   wrdApp.Selection.Font.Bold = bBold
   wrdApp.Selection.TypeText strData
   
End Sub



I hope this will come across to the list.
 
Workers' Compensation	
WC Classification Description	WC Code	Actual Payroll	
Stone Install	1803	$	
Tile Work	5348	$	
Carpentry	5437	$	
Carpet, Vinyl Install	5478	$	
Executive Supervisors	5606	$	
Total		$	

 
General Liablity	
GL Classification Description	GL Code	Actual Payroll	
Executive Supervisors	91580	$	
Floor Covering Install	94569	$	
Tile Install Interior	99746	$	
Total		$	

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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jul 21 13:48:45 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:48:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED3E@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <200507211848.j6LImlR26073@databaseadvisors.com>

There seems to be a dangling ENDIF, (after rs2.close) and I'm not sure where
it's IF should go.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: July 21, 2005 2:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...

Me again,

I am generating 1-2 tables per page on this report that I'm doing in word
via automation.  It takes, on average, 1.8 seconds to create one page.  This
is an average from 406 pages.  In trying to make it faster, I have
determined that the table code takes 66% of the time it takes to create a
page.  Note that the tables can have a variable number of items in it.

I am including the relevant bits of code.  I know it is a lot to look
through so it's ok if you want to stop here.  The one second saved still has
the recordset stuff in it, so that is not the bottleneck.

Anyone have any ideas as to how I may speed this up?  I have included what a
finished table looks like at the end of this email.

Thanks,
Bobby

This is what I'm doing (for each table):
If Not rs2.EOF Then
               rs2.MoveLast
               rs2.MoveFirst
		   'add the table
               Set wrdTableWC = wrdDocTmp.Tables.Add(.Selection.Range,
rs2.RecordCount + 3, 3)
		   'format the table and create headers
               SetUpTable wrdApp, wrdTableWC, "Workers' Compensation", "WC",
rs2.RecordCount + 3
               End If
                            
               i = 3
               Do While Not rs2.EOF
                  With wrdTableWC
                     .Cell(i, 1).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Description], "")
                     .Cell(i, 2).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Code], "")
                     .Cell(i, 3).Range.Text = "$"
                     End With
                     
                  rs2.MoveNext
                  i = i + 1
                  Loop
                  
            rs2.Close
            End If

'set up the table by formatting cells and writing static text
Private Sub SetUpTable(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object,
ByVal strTitle As String, _
   ByVal strType As String, ByVal lLast As Long)
Dim wrdRow  As Object

   On Error GoTo Proc_Err

            With wrdTable
               .Borders.InsideLineStyle = 1
'wdLineStyleSingle
               .Borders.OutsideLineStyle = 7
'wdLineStyleDouble
               .Columns(1).Width = 250
               .Columns(2).Width = 60
               .Columns(3).Width = 200
               End With
               
            '1st row set to caption
            Set wrdRow = wrdTable.Rows(1)
            wrdRow.cells.Merge
            wrdRow.Shading.Texture = 250           'wdTexture25Percent
            With wrdTable.Cell(1, 1).Range
               .Font.Size = 14
               .Font.Bold = True
               .Paragraphs.Alignment = 1         'wdAlignRowCenter
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 1, 1, strTitle, False
               
            With wrdTable
               .Cell(2, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 0
'wdAlignRowLeft
               .Cell(2, 2).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(2, 3).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(lLast, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 2
'wdAlignRowRight
               .Cell(lLast, 2).Range.Shading.BackgroundPatternColorIndex =
16  'wdGray25
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 1, strType & " Classification
Description", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 2, strType & " Code", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 3, "Actual Payroll", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 1, "Total", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 3, "$", False

End sub 


'write a cell in the table
Private Sub WriteCell3(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object, _
   ByVal x As Long, ByVal y As Long, ByVal strData As String, ByRef bBold As
Boolean)

   wrdTable.Cell(x, y).SELECT
   wrdApp.Selection.Font.Bold = bBold
   wrdApp.Selection.TypeText strData
   
End Sub



I hope this will come across to the list.
 
Workers' Compensation	
WC Classification Description	WC Code	Actual Payroll	
Stone Install	1803	$	
Tile Work	5348	$	
Carpentry	5437	$	
Carpet, Vinyl Install	5478	$	
Executive Supervisors	5606	$	
Total		$	

 
General Liablity	
GL Classification Description	GL Code	Actual Payroll	
Executive Supervisors	91580	$	
Floor Covering Install	94569	$	
Tile Install Interior	99746	$	
Total		$	

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jul 21 13:50:00 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:50:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
Message-ID: <000501c58e25$02a3a3a0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for VBExpress
which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE instead of being
embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels almost identical to the
Visual Studio however.

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/

Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos available.  I
discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some) videos
for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they would
allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty quickly, and
I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show you
how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so far)
that we can only dream of in VBA.

Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the video
series right now.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/




From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jul 21 13:52:35 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:52:35 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C262F4@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED40@ADGSERVER>

I see that it did not come across as RTF.  If anyone is interested in seeing
the rtf version, let me know and I'll send you a copy off-list.

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:31 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...


Me again,

I am generating 1-2 tables per page on this report that I'm doing in word
via automation.  It takes, on average, 1.8 seconds to create one page.  This
is an average from 406 pages.  In trying to make it faster, I have
determined that the table code takes 66% of the time it takes to create a
page.  Note that the tables can have a variable number of items in it.

I am including the relevant bits of code.  I know it is a lot to look
through so it's ok if you want to stop here.  The one second saved still has
the recordset stuff in it, so that is not the bottleneck.

Anyone have any ideas as to how I may speed this up?  I have included what a
finished table looks like at the end of this email.

Thanks,
Bobby

This is what I'm doing (for each table):
If Not rs2.EOF Then
               rs2.MoveLast
               rs2.MoveFirst
		   'add the table
               Set wrdTableWC = wrdDocTmp.Tables.Add(.Selection.Range,
rs2.RecordCount + 3, 3)
		   'format the table and create headers
               SetUpTable wrdApp, wrdTableWC, "Workers' Compensation", "WC",
rs2.RecordCount + 3
               End If
                            
               i = 3
               Do While Not rs2.EOF
                  With wrdTableWC
                     .Cell(i, 1).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Description], "")
                     .Cell(i, 2).Range.Text = Nz(rs2![WC Code], "")
                     .Cell(i, 3).Range.Text = "$"
                     End With
                     
                  rs2.MoveNext
                  i = i + 1
                  Loop
                  
            rs2.Close
            End If

'set up the table by formatting cells and writing static text
Private Sub SetUpTable(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object,
ByVal strTitle As String, _
   ByVal strType As String, ByVal lLast As Long)
Dim wrdRow  As Object

   On Error GoTo Proc_Err

            With wrdTable
               .Borders.InsideLineStyle = 1
'wdLineStyleSingle
               .Borders.OutsideLineStyle = 7
'wdLineStyleDouble
               .Columns(1).Width = 250
               .Columns(2).Width = 60
               .Columns(3).Width = 200
               End With
               
            '1st row set to caption
            Set wrdRow = wrdTable.Rows(1)
            wrdRow.cells.Merge
            wrdRow.Shading.Texture = 250           'wdTexture25Percent
            With wrdTable.Cell(1, 1).Range
               .Font.Size = 14
               .Font.Bold = True
               .Paragraphs.Alignment = 1         'wdAlignRowCenter
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 1, 1, strTitle, False
               
            With wrdTable
               .Cell(2, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 0
'wdAlignRowLeft
               .Cell(2, 2).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(2, 3).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 1
'wdAlignRowCenter
               .Cell(lLast, 1).Range.Paragraphs.Alignment = 2
'wdAlignRowRight
               .Cell(lLast, 2).Range.Shading.BackgroundPatternColorIndex =
16  'wdGray25
               End With
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 1, strType & " Classification
Description", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 2, strType & " Code", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, 2, 3, "Actual Payroll", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 1, "Total", True
            WriteCell3 wrdApp, wrdTable, lLast, 3, "$", False

End sub 


'write a cell in the table
Private Sub WriteCell3(ByRef wrdApp As Object, ByRef wrdTable As Object, _
   ByVal x As Long, ByVal y As Long, ByVal strData As String, ByRef bBold As
Boolean)

   wrdTable.Cell(x, y).SELECT
   wrdApp.Selection.Font.Bold = bBold
   wrdApp.Selection.TypeText strData
   
End Sub



I hope this will come across to the list.
 
Workers' Compensation	
WC Classification Description	WC Code	Actual Payroll	
Stone Install	1803	$	
Tile Work	5348	$	
Carpentry	5437	$	
Carpet, Vinyl Install	5478	$	
Executive Supervisors	5606	$	
Total		$	

 
General Liablity	
GL Classification Description	GL Code	Actual Payroll	
Executive Supervisors	91580	$	
Floor Covering Install	94569	$	
Tile Install Interior	99746	$	
Total		$	

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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Thu Jul 21 14:01:17 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:01:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: MySQL experts
Message-ID: <20050721190116.LVV7280.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

A local business is looking for a MySQL expert -- the work can probably be
done virtually -- they need to convert a db to MySQL. Send me a resume
privately at ssharkins at bellsouth.net and I'll forward it on to the contact. 
 
Thanks,
Susan H. 


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jul 21 14:12:00 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:12:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C26302@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED41@ADGSERVER>

Sorry about that.  That END IF is from an outside if.  That first bit of
code is just the relevant code concerning the table stuff.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Another word question...


There seems to be a dangling ENDIF, (after rs2.close) and I'm not sure where
it's IF should go.




From pedro at plex.nl  Thu Jul 21 15:28:54 2005
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:28:54 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] show last value in listbox
References: <s2dffa99.004@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002901c58e33$27d8c0c0$fac581d5@pedro>

Hello,

thanks to all who responded.
With your help i must be no problem to solve this.

Pedro Janssen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] show last value in listbox


> Hi Pedro
> 
> Your listbox may not have settled at the OnCurrent event of the form.
> 
> Thus, create a textbox and set the controlsource to:
> 
>   =SetListboxLast()
> 
> and create this function in the code module of the form:
> 
> Private Function SetListboxLast()
> 
>   ' Set listbox lstDemo to the last entry.
> 
>   With Me!lstDemo
>     If IsNull(.Value) Then
>       .Value = .ItemData(.ListCount - 1)
>     End If
>   End With
>   
> End Function
> 
> Then, shortly after the form has opened, the listbox is set to its last
> value.
> This is for a single-select listbox.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> pedro at plex.nl 07/21 4:00 pm >>>
> Hello Group,
> 
> is it possible, when opening a listbox with a long list of values, it
> opens always with the first value. Is it possible to open with the last
> values.
> 
> Pedro Janssen
> 
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From artful at rogers.com  Thu Jul 21 16:02:37 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:02:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED41@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <200507212102.j6LL2bR26204@databaseadvisors.com>

Thanks for the clarification!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: July 21, 2005 3:12 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Another word question...

Sorry about that.  That END IF is from an outside if.  That first bit of
code is just the relevant code concerning the table stuff.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:49 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Another word question...


There seems to be a dangling ENDIF, (after rs2.close) and I'm not sure where
it's IF should go.


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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 21 20:57:10 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:57:10 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
References: <000501c58e25$02a3a3a0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV18F555738CC7AC2A5A84D6AEC90@phx.gbl>

JC

..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio 
Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of VB.net in 
order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the 
VBExpress route instead?

..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD" 
<AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for VBExpress
> which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE instead of 
> being
> embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels almost identical to 
> the
> Visual Studio however.
>
> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
>
> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos available. 
> I
> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some) 
> videos
> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they would
> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty quickly, 
> and
> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show you
> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so far)
> that we can only dream of in VBA.
>
> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the video
> series right now.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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> 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Jul 21 21:11:59 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:11:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV18F555738CC7AC2A5A84D6AEC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000a01c58e62$be555610$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

William,

Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in the
Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes.  The
videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the controls, the
forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual Studio.

My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have never
managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even purchased it
because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is very
stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


JC

..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio 
Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of VB.net in 
order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the 
VBExpress route instead?

..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD" 
<AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for 
> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE 
> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels 
> almost identical to the
> Visual Studio however.
>
> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
>
> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos 
> available.
> I
> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some) 
> videos
> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they would
> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty quickly, 
> and
> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show you
> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so far)
> that we can only dream of in VBA.
>
> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the 
> video series right now.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 22 01:08:54 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:08:54 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
References: <000a01c58e62$be555610$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV627EDA34DF58782227F54AEC90@phx.gbl>

..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing around 
VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name is 
similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports cleanly, 
at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports distributed 
Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having full 
Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve first 
:(

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


> William,
>
> Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in the
> Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes.  The
> videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the controls, the
> forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual 
> Studio.
>
> My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have never
> managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even purchased 
> it
> because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is very
> stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
>
>
> JC
>
> ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio
> Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of VB.net in
> order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the
> VBExpress route instead?
>
> ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
>
> William
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
> <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
>
>
>> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
>> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE
>> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels
>> almost identical to the
>> Visual Studio however.
>>
>> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
>>
>> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
>> available.
>> I
>> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
>> videos
>> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they would
>> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty quickly,
>> and
>> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show 
>> you
>> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so far)
>> that we can only dream of in VBA.
>>
>> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
>> video series right now.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Fri Jul 22 03:34:56 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:34:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
In-Reply-To: <000501c58e25$02a3a3a0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAABSFB6Rx11hHhtK0mLnDu/wBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Anyone know anymore downloads like this, I currently develop in Access97,
2000, XP, VB6, SQL Server 7.0/2000 and really want to start getting into
.NET, What would be a good starting point to move into .NET.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions etc

Paul Hartland

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: 21 July 2005 19:50
To: VBA; AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos

In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for VBExpress
which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE instead of being
embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels almost identical to the
Visual Studio however.

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/

Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos available.  I
discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some) videos
for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they would
allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty quickly, and
I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show you
how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so far)
that we can only dream of in VBA.

Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the video
series right now.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jul 22 05:04:24 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:04:24 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
Message-ID: <s2e0e0cc.008@cactus.dk>

Hi Bobby

One method is to avoid Selection and only deal with ranges. I've used
that with Excel and guess you can do the same with Word.

Another more radical method is to rebuild your function to generate the
full RTF code and write that directly to a file. It may not be that
difficult as you will not generate all the "fat" that Word normally adds
to an RTF file.
I've used that method for a client to generate the basic text for a
catalogue and it runs at a speed you hardly believe, about 20ms per
page. That's because all you do is to loop the recordset(s) while
appending pure ASCII to a text file you keep open during the process.

Look up in the archive "Writing raw RTF document using VBA - Solved"
from 2004-01-02.

/gustav


>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 07/21 8:31 pm >>>
Me again,

I am generating 1-2 tables per page on this report that I'm doing in
word
via automation.  It takes, on average, 1.8 seconds to create one page. 
This
is an average from 406 pages.  In trying to make it faster, I have
determined that the table code takes 66% of the time it takes to create
a
page.  Note that the tables can have a variable number of items in it.



From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jul 22 07:34:05 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:34:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C263C4@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED46@ADGSERVER>

Thanks, I'll check that out.  I did not think about using RTF.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:04 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another word question...


Hi Bobby

One method is to avoid Selection and only deal with ranges. I've used
that with Excel and guess you can do the same with Word.

Another more radical method is to rebuild your function to generate the
full RTF code and write that directly to a file. It may not be that
difficult as you will not generate all the "fat" that Word normally adds
to an RTF file.
I've used that method for a client to generate the basic text for a
catalogue and it runs at a speed you hardly believe, about 20ms per
page. That's because all you do is to loop the recordset(s) while
appending pure ASCII to a text file you keep open during the process.

Look up in the archive "Writing raw RTF document using VBA - Solved"
from 2004-01-02.

/gustav


>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 07/21 8:31 pm >>>
Me again,

I am generating 1-2 tables per page on this report that I'm doing in
word
via automation.  It takes, on average, 1.8 seconds to create one page. 
This
is an average from 406 pages.  In trying to make it faster, I have
determined that the table code takes 66% of the time it takes to create
a
page.  Note that the tables can have a variable number of items in it.

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jul 22 07:45:33 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:45:33 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C263C4@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED47@ADGSERVER>

Gustav,

I just figured out that I can not do a full RTF document.  The reason being
that the user creates the word document with bookmarks.  So I do not know
the layout of the document.

But, can I just figure out how to do the two tables in RTF and insert it
into the word document?

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:04 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another word question...


Hi Bobby

One method is to avoid Selection and only deal with ranges. I've used
that with Excel and guess you can do the same with Word.

Another more radical method is to rebuild your function to generate the
full RTF code and write that directly to a file. It may not be that
difficult as you will not generate all the "fat" that Word normally adds
to an RTF file.
I've used that method for a client to generate the basic text for a
catalogue and it runs at a speed you hardly believe, about 20ms per
page. That's because all you do is to loop the recordset(s) while
appending pure ASCII to a text file you keep open during the process.

Look up in the archive "Writing raw RTF document using VBA - Solved"
from 2004-01-02.

/gustav




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Jul 22 07:54:31 2005
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:54:31 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
Message-ID: <s2e108ca.011@cactus.dk>

Hi Bobby

I guess you could but I don't think that will do much. 
The time hog is the automation part (major) and the use of Selection
(minor).

/gustav

>>> bheid at appdevgrp.com 07/22 2:45 pm >>>
Gustav,

I just figured out that I can not do a full RTF document.  The reason
being
that the user creates the word document with bookmarks.  So I do not
know
the layout of the document.

But, can I just figure out how to do the two tables in RTF and insert
it
into the word document?

Thanks,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
Brock
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:04 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another word question...


Hi Bobby

One method is to avoid Selection and only deal with ranges. I've used
that with Excel and guess you can do the same with Word.

Another more radical method is to rebuild your function to generate
the
full RTF code and write that directly to a file. It may not be that
difficult as you will not generate all the "fat" that Word normally
adds
to an RTF file.
I've used that method for a client to generate the basic text for a
catalogue and it runs at a speed you hardly believe, about 20ms per
page. That's because all you do is to loop the recordset(s) while
appending pure ASCII to a text file you keep open during the process.

Look up in the archive "Writing raw RTF document using VBA - Solved"
from 2004-01-02.

/gustav



From bchacc at san.rr.com  Fri Jul 22 10:28:34 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:28:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
References: <s2da4efd.099@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <00e601c58ed2$05e7c980$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Gustav:

DO you know if a form is not pop-up will it disappear with the Access 
window? Seemed to on my first experiment with this.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> Hi Rocky
>
> I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
> complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
> confusing.
> Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely.
> I modified it slightly:
>
> Option Compare Database
> Option Explicit
>
> Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
> Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3
>
> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
>  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Public Function fAccessWindow( _
>  Optional Procedure As String, _
>  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
>  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
>  As Boolean
>
>  Dim lngState    As Long
>  Dim lngReturn   As Long
>  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
>
>  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp
>
>  If SwitchStatus = False Then
>    Select Case Procedure
>      Case "Hide"
>        lngState = SW_HIDE
>      Case "Show", "Normal"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>      Case "Minimize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>      Case "Maximize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>      Case Else
>        lngState = -1
>    End Select
>  Else
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      lngState = SW_HIDE
>    Else
>      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  If lngState >= 0 Then
>    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
>  End If
>
>  If StatusCheck = True Then
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      booVisible = True
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  fAccessWindow = booVisible
>
> End Function
>
> Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
> Dear List:
>
> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without
> the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as
> it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or
> tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Fri Jul 22 10:32:55 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:32:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016DA84@main2.marlow.com>

Yes, because if it's not a pop-up form, then it will be 'underneath' the
Access window, so it wouldn't be seen.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


Gustav:

DO you know if a form is not pop-up will it disappear with the Access 
window? Seemed to on my first experiment with this.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting rid of the Access Background


> Hi Rocky
>
> I've had better luck with the code from Drew - that from Dev always
> complained that either a form was missing or was too much - quite
> confusing.
> Drew's code doesn't have those limitations and works nicely.
> I modified it slightly:
>
> Option Compare Database
> Option Explicit
>
> Const SW_HIDE           As Long = 0
> Const SW_SHOWNORMAL     As Long = 1
> Const SW_SHOWMINIMIZED  As Long = 2
> Const SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED  As Long = 3
>
> Private Declare Function IsWindowVisible Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Private Declare Function ShowWindow Lib "user32" ( _
>  ByVal hwnd As Long, _
>  ByVal nCmdShow As Long) _
>  As Long
>
> Public Function fAccessWindow( _
>  Optional Procedure As String, _
>  Optional SwitchStatus As Boolean, _
>  Optional StatusCheck As Boolean) _
>  As Boolean
>
>  Dim lngState    As Long
>  Dim lngReturn   As Long
>  Dim booVisible  As Boolean
>
>  MsgBox Application.hWndAccessApp
>
>  If SwitchStatus = False Then
>    Select Case Procedure
>      Case "Hide"
>        lngState = SW_HIDE
>      Case "Show", "Normal"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>      Case "Minimize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMINIMIZED
>      Case "Maximize"
>        lngState = SW_SHOWMAXIMIZED
>      Case Else
>        lngState = -1
>    End Select
>  Else
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      lngState = SW_HIDE
>    Else
>      lngState = SW_SHOWNORMAL
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  If lngState >= 0 Then
>    lngReturn = ShowWindow(Application.hWndAccessApp, lngState)
>  End If
>
>  If StatusCheck = True Then
>    If IsWindowVisible(hWndAccessApp) = 1 Then
>      booVisible = True
>    End If
>  End If
>
>  fAccessWindow = booVisible
>
> End Function
>
> Have in mind that reports cannot be previewed with the MDI hidden.
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> bchacc at san.rr.com 07/17 1:45 am >>>
> Dear List:
>
> I have an app which is an mde and I'd like the forms to appear without
> the standard access background frame.  Sort of float over the desktop as
> it were.  The forms have no max, min, and close buttons and no menu or
> tool bars and border style of dialog.  Any way to do this?
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> http://www.e-z-mrp.com
> 858-259-4334
>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jul 22 10:38:16 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:38:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B39@infoserver01.infostat.local>

VS Tools comes with a standard version of VB.Net.  VBExpress is supposed
to be the answer to the cry, "why can't you make it easier for
non-developers to use?"  To me that is utter nonsense, since no one but
a developer can make effective use of it anyhow! <grumble>

All the tools that were in the previous developers editions of Office
(or the ADT for an earlier version of Access) are in VS Tools now,
including the packaging wizard and the Access runtime.  If you are
developing Access 2003 apps and want to distribute the runtime, you need
VS Tools, not VBExpress.


Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:dejpolsys at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing
around 
VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name
is 
similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports
cleanly, 
at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports
distributed 
Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having
full 
Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve
first 
:(

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


> William,
>
> Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in 
> the Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly 
> yes.  The videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the 
> controls, the forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the 
> version in Visual Studio.
>
> My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have 
> never managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even 
> purchased it because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta 
> which is very
> stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William 
> Hindman
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
>
>
> JC
>
> ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio 
> Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of 
> VB.net in order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want

> to go the VBExpress route instead?
>
> ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
>
> William
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
> <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
>
>
>> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for 
>> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE

>> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels 
>> almost identical to the Visual Studio however.
>>
>> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
>>
>> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos 
>> available. I
>> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
>> videos
>> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they
would
>> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty
quickly,
>> and
>> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will
show 
>> you
>> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so
far)
>> that we can only dream of in VBA.
>>
>> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the 
>> video series right now.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause: 
>> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>
>>
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From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jul 22 10:39:05 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:39:05 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV627EDA34DF58782227F54AEC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200507221539.j6MFd8R16637@databaseadvisors.com>

William (and any others interested)...

If your box can support a pair of monitors I strongly suggest that you go
that way. Then you can really begin to enjoy the UI of .NET, because you can
drag all the toolbars etc. to the second monitor and have a nice clean
surface to work on. This changes everything! (Incidentally, the same applies
to Dreamweaver MX.) Once you go to using two monitors, it is very difficult
to go back.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: July 22, 2005 2:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos

..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing around 
VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name is 
similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports cleanly, 
at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jul 22 10:47:48 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:47:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B3A@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I use two and put the solution explorer, properties window, etc. on the
second.  A couple of other developer stretch the interface across the
two monitors, which drives me nuts when I try to find anything on their
screen!  I admit that it is handy for VS.Net, but I think dual monitors
are useless for any other purpose except testing.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:39 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


William (and any others interested)...

If your box can support a pair of monitors I strongly suggest that you
go that way. Then you can really begin to enjoy the UI of .NET, because
you can drag all the toolbars etc. to the second monitor and have a nice
clean surface to work on. This changes everything! (Incidentally, the
same applies to Dreamweaver MX.) Once you go to using two monitors, it
is very difficult to go back.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: July 22, 2005 2:09 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos

..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing
around 
VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name
is 
similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports
cleanly, 
at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Jul 22 11:04:11 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:04:11 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B39@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <001f01c58ed7$000b4aa0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

>VBExpress is supposed to be the answer to the cry, "why can't you make it
easier for non-developers to use?"  To me that is utter nonsense, since no
one but a developer can make effective use of it anyhow! <grumble>

LOL, I agree.  What it does is lower the cost threshold for getting in to
.net.  .NET no matter how you slice it, is a huge, complex, very powerful
object model with massive ability and massive learning curve.  

As a learning tool I am trying to move a simple 3 class set of data objects
to .net and it has taken all of yesterday and all of today to get just to
the point where I can start testing it.  I fully expect another couple of
days just to get them functioning.  And this for three simple classes that
already worked using ado in VBA.   Of course I am pretty much starting from
ground zero in terms of .net knowledge.  I have studied the books
intermittently over the last year but never really kept at it.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
http://folding.stanford.edu/

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


VS Tools comes with a standard version of VB.Net.  VBExpress is supposed to
be the answer to the cry, "why can't you make it easier for non-developers
to use?"  To me that is utter nonsense, since no one but a developer can
make effective use of it anyhow! <grumble>

All the tools that were in the previous developers editions of Office (or
the ADT for an earlier version of Access) are in VS Tools now, including the
packaging wizard and the Access runtime.  If you are developing Access 2003
apps and want to distribute the runtime, you need VS Tools, not VBExpress.


Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: William Hindman [mailto:dejpolsys at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:09 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing around 
VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name is 
similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports cleanly, 
at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports distributed 
Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having full 
Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve first

:(

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


> William,
>
> Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in
> the Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly 
> yes.  The videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the 
> controls, the forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the 
> version in Visual Studio.
>
> My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have
> never managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even 
> purchased it because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta 
> which is very
> stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
> Hindman
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
>
>
> JC
>
> ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio
> Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of 
> VB.net in order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want

> to go the VBExpress route instead?
>
> ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
>
> William
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD" 
> <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
>
>
>> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
>> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE

>> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels
>> almost identical to the Visual Studio however.
>>
>> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
>>
>> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
>> available. I
>> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
>> videos
>> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they
would
>> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty
quickly,
>> and
>> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will
show 
>> you
>> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so
far)
>> that we can only dream of in VBA.
>>
>> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
>> video series right now.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>> http://folding.stanford.edu/
>>
>>
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From darsant at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 11:11:16 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:11:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B3A@infoserver01.infostat.local>
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B3A@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a0507220911139d4425@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/22/05, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> I use two and put the solution explorer, properties window, etc. on the
> second.  A couple of other developer stretch the interface across the
> two monitors, which drives me nuts when I try to find anything on their
> screen!  I admit that it is handy for VS.Net, but I think dual monitors
> are useless for any other purpose except testing.
> 
> Charlotte Foust

I hate that fact that there's no easy way to make it span two monitors
without disjoining them. On Access, I leave the VB window up on one
monitor and the form view on another. Helps with keeping the code tied
to reality sometimes.

In VS.Net, for a single application it's pointless for me to develop
in two monitors (granted, I can make the code window bigger by
dragging the solution explorer, etc to the other window, but nothing
increased productivity wise.

Now, when I'm looking code up online to help debug our programs, the
2nd monitor's extra space keeps from Alt-tabbing.

For a developer, 2nd monitors make things simpler if you're using good
programs. Maybe 2005 will allow us better dual monitor support.


-- 
Josh McFarlane

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jul 22 11:13:13 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:13:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B3A@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <200507221613.j6MGDGR25152@databaseadvisors.com>

Well, we certainly disagree on your last comment, Charlotte! I absolutely
LOVE having various programs open on each monitor, for example Outlook on
one, Word on the other, and so on. When debugging etc. it is even better!
Nothing like putting the Access code window on one monitor and the running
application on the other! Once you do that, there's no turning back! IMO.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: July 22, 2005 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos

I use two and put the solution explorer, properties window, etc. on the
second.  A couple of other developer stretch the interface across the
two monitors, which drives me nuts when I try to find anything on their
screen!  I admit that it is handy for VS.Net, but I think dual monitors
are useless for any other purpose except testing.

Charlotte Foust




From artful at rogers.com  Fri Jul 22 11:25:20 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:25:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED47@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <200507221625.j6MGPMR28078@databaseadvisors.com>

After looking through your code and playing a bit with it, I'm wondering
whether I can work backwards, sort of. Assume that my template contains a
table with a header row and one blank row, already formatted to the size and
font etc. that I want in the populated result. Would I need to specify these
when adding rows, or is that already done, given the existence of the table
header and blank row? Failing that, can I deduce the column widths etc. from
the existing header and blank row? What's the best way to go about this?
Start with a 1-row table (plus header), or manufacture the whole table as
you apparently do?

It's possible, in the document I need to create, that one of the tables will
contain zero rows (it would always be Table Two). This occurs rarely but I
need to be able to deal with it. Assuming (as now) that the table exists in
the template file, how would I hide it in the event that it contains zero
rows of data?

Thanks!

Arthur



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Jul 22 11:26:12 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:26:12 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B3B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I don't like having a bunch of programs open at once unless I'm working
directly with all of them, as in programming their interaction.
Everything that isn't being worked in can just stay in the taskbar as
far as I'm concerned.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Fuller [mailto:artful at rogers.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


Well, we certainly disagree on your last comment, Charlotte! I
absolutely LOVE having various programs open on each monitor, for
example Outlook on one, Word on the other, and so on. When debugging
etc. it is even better! Nothing like putting the Access code window on
one monitor and the running application on the other! Once you do that,
there's no turning back! IMO.

Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: July 22, 2005 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos

I use two and put the solution explorer, properties window, etc. on the
second.  A couple of other developer stretch the interface across the
two monitors, which drives me nuts when I try to find anything on their
screen!  I admit that it is handy for VS.Net, but I think dual monitors
are useless for any other purpose except testing.

Charlotte Foust


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From kevinb at bepc.com  Fri Jul 22 11:46:28 2005
From: kevinb at bepc.com (Kevin Bachmeier)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:46:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Log file from corruption during Application.CompactRepair.
Message-ID: <5C210A2F04B76B4AB2A18E6FEB81713401CDA7B0@HDQ06.bepc.net>

I have read the documentation on the Application.CompactRepair method,
(below is snippet of that docu). 

If the compact and repair encounters corruption during the process a log
file created.  I understand where it will be placed (destination
directory), but does anyone know what the name of the log file will be?
I'd like to attach it in an email message.  Does anyone know how to
force corruption during an CompactRepair?

(databasename.LOG)??

Thanks in advance.
Kevin


DOCU SNIPPET FROM MSDN:
LogFile  Optional Boolean. True if a log file is created in the
destination directory to record any corruption detected in the source
file. A log file is only created if corruption is detected in the source
file. If LogFile is False or omitted, no log file is created, even if
corruption is detected in the source file.


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Jul 22 11:59:26 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:59:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Micrometer or Caliper Data Direct to Access
In-Reply-To: <28043420.1121962133967.JavaMail.root@sniper18>
Message-ID: <000001c58ede$b9bf19c0$0200a8c0@danwaters>

Thanks Marty!

This looks like a great start.

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:05 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Micrometer or Caliper Data Direct to Access

http://www.taltech.com
I have used these products a couple of years ago. Might be a tad 
expensive, as you can write your own
code via mscomm.ocx, which I think is installed or licensed from VB6 . 
However you may have problems
writing code to handle sampling stream rates and line drops and all the 
possible error conditions that this software covers.
If your requirements are really simple you might just get away with 
using mscomm. Lots of net examples.

Input RS232 data directly into Excel, Access, or any Windows 
application. WinWedge provides real-time data collection from any serial 
device or instrument. TCP-Wedge software provides data collection from 
any TCP/IP network. Send and receive RS232 data across a TCP/IP port 
with TCP/Com serial to TCP/IP converter software. In other words just 
drop your instrument on the net.

Lots of useful test software here like code for a breakout box, there 
are articles on the site explaining methods.
However it appears they dumped one useful example in VB, it was too good.
http://www.taltech.com/freesoftware/fs_sw.htm

This site also may have good software suggestions and methods
National Instruments.
http://www.ni.com

Dan Waters wrote:

>Hello all!
>
> 
>
>Many hand measuring instruments have an electronic component that is used
to
>send measurement data to a PC, given the right software.  The way this
works
>is to measure an item, then push a button on the instrument to send the
>measurement info to a PC.  
>
> 
>
>I'd like to find out if anyone has experience working with these
instruments
>and collecting the data in an Access database, and could steer in good
>directions and away from poor ones!
>
> 
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dan Waters
>
>  
>

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Fri Jul 22 12:58:12 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:58:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Another word question...
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C264A3@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED4C@ADGSERVER>

Well, in my particular case, the table variable may not be there.  In that
case, the users do not want a table to show.

I initially started out with a predefined table.  But from what I read, it
is very slow to add rows to an existing table.

When I create the table, I have an object variable pointing at the table.
SO maybe you could identify the table in code and delete it if you did not
want it?

Bobby


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Another word question...


After looking through your code and playing a bit with it, I'm wondering
whether I can work backwards, sort of. Assume that my template contains a
table with a header row and one blank row, already formatted to the size and
font etc. that I want in the populated result. Would I need to specify these
when adding rows, or is that already done, given the existence of the table
header and blank row? Failing that, can I deduce the column widths etc. from
the existing header and blank row? What's the best way to go about this?
Start with a 1-row table (plus header), or manufacture the whole table as
you apparently do?

It's possible, in the document I need to create, that one of the tables will
contain zero rows (it would always be Table Two). This occurs rarely but I
need to be able to deal with it. Assuming (as now) that the table exists in
the template file, how would I hide it in the event that it contains zero
rows of data?

Thanks!

Arthur



From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 23 20:10:07 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:10:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access SQL
Message-ID: <000601c58fec$6faa9030$6401a8c0@laptop1>

What kind of SQL does Access use?
 
Is it T- SQL ?
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Jul 23 21:32:22 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:32:22 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access SQL
In-Reply-To: <000601c58fec$6faa9030$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <42E38A56.31204.31A380C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 23 Jul 2005 at 18:10, Joe Hecht wrote:

> What kind of SQL does Access use?
>  
> Is it T- SQL ?
>  

No, it's Access SQL.  
It's similar to T-SQL in that the basic commands  INSERT, SELECT, DELETE, 
UPDATE, JOIN, WHERE, GROUPBY etc) and syntax are the same. 

The main differences are that is uses standard Access/Windows wildcards 
rather than the T-SQL ones ("*" = "%" and "?" = "_") and it uses VBA 
functions in lieu of the T-SQL ones for type convertions, string 
manipulation, conditionals (such as IIF()) etc.








-- 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Sat Jul 23 21:36:22 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:36:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Access SQL
In-Reply-To: <000601c58fec$6faa9030$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <20050724023619.WKQA7280.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Jet SQL. SQL Server uses Transact-SQL (T-SQL). Jet's a critter all its own
but they are similar. 

Susan H. 

What kind of SQL does Access use?
 
Is it T- SQL ?



From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Sun Jul 24 02:21:50 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:21:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Micrometer or Caliper Data Direct to Access
References: <000001c58ede$b9bf19c0$0200a8c0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <42E3418E.8060105@shaw.ca>

I came across another oldie that uses mscomm32.ocx (that comes with VB6 
but there seems to be a version with WinXP too)
or it go installed on my machine somehow. Written in  Access 97 around 1999
It mostly plays around with the modem but what the heck that is hung on 
a serial comm port too.
 From Neal Kling look under downloads menu.
http://www.geocities.com/nealakling/

Dan Waters wrote:

>Thanks Marty!
>
>This looks like a great start.
>
>Dan Waters
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:05 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Micrometer or Caliper Data Direct to Access
>
>http://www.taltech.com
>I have used these products a couple of years ago. Might be a tad 
>expensive, as you can write your own
>code via mscomm.ocx, which I think is installed or licensed from VB6 . 
>However you may have problems
>writing code to handle sampling stream rates and line drops and all the 
>possible error conditions that this software covers.
>If your requirements are really simple you might just get away with 
>using mscomm. Lots of net examples.
>
>Input RS232 data directly into Excel, Access, or any Windows 
>application. WinWedge provides real-time data collection from any serial 
>device or instrument. TCP-Wedge software provides data collection from 
>any TCP/IP network. Send and receive RS232 data across a TCP/IP port 
>with TCP/Com serial to TCP/IP converter software. In other words just 
>drop your instrument on the net.
>
>Lots of useful test software here like code for a breakout box, there 
>are articles on the site explaining methods.
>However it appears they dumped one useful example in VB, it was too good.
>http://www.taltech.com/freesoftware/fs_sw.htm
>
>This site also may have good software suggestions and methods
>National Instruments.
>http://www.ni.com
>
>Dan Waters wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hello all!
>>
>>
>>
>>Many hand measuring instruments have an electronic component that is used
>>    
>>
>to
>  
>
>>send measurement data to a PC, given the right software.  The way this
>>    
>>
>works
>  
>
>>is to measure an item, then push a button on the instrument to send the
>>measurement info to a PC.  
>>
>>
>>
>>I'd like to find out if anyone has experience working with these
>>    
>>
>instruments
>  
>
>>and collecting the data in an Access database, and could steer in good
>>directions and away from poor ones!
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Dan Waters
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
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Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jul 24 08:55:25 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:55:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
Message-ID: <000f01c59057$5abb3560$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I found this:

http://www.connectionstrings.com/

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From karenr7 at oz.net  Sun Jul 24 17:58:54 2005
From: karenr7 at oz.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:58:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
Message-ID: <200507242258.j6OMwrR18615@databaseadvisors.com>

I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me with a snippet of
code.

I want to work with 4 fields in a sub table, as follows:

Checkbox "NotSeen" 
Date field "NextApp"
Textbox "Priority", which runs from 1 to 4
Date field "DateReschedule"

What I would like to do (if only I was any good at VBA) is when NotSeen is
checked, the whole record would be copied and appended. Priorities 2 thru 4
would each move up a notch, i.e., 2 would become 1, etc. DateReschedule
would take the date from NextApp and...

1. For the new priority 1, add 1 day to the date from NextApp and put it in
DateReschedule
     
2. For the new priority 2, add 2 days to the date from NextApp and put it in
DateReschedule
     
3. For the new priority 3, add 3 days to the date from NextApp and put it in
DateReschedule

Finally I would like the whole record to turn red if the priority is # 1,
either from this snippet's conversion or when entered directly (actually I
think this will be unattractive, but my boss wants the color to highlight
the priority).

Is this doable in whole or in part?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 




From KP at sdsonline.net  Sun Jul 24 18:58:14 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:58:14 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
References: <000a01c58e62$be555610$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>
	<BAY103-DAV627EDA34DF58782227F54AEC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002901c590ab$8fe53de0$6601a8c0@user>

<<how does anyone that actually supports distributed 
Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having full 
Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve first 

William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing around 
  VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name is 
  similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports cleanly, 
  at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

  ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports distributed 
  Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having full 
  Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve first 
  :(

  William

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
  To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  > William,
  >
  > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in the
  > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes.  The
  > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the controls, the
  > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual 
  > Studio.
  >
  > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have never
  > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even purchased 
  > it
  > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is very
  > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
  >
  > John W. Colby
  > www.ColbyConsulting.com
  >
  > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
  > http://folding.stanford.edu/
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
  > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
  > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
  >
  >
  > JC
  >
  > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio
  > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of VB.net in
  > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the
  > VBExpress route instead?
  >
  > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
  >
  > William
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
  > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
  > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
  > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
  > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
  >
  >
  >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
  >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE
  >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels
  >> almost identical to the
  >> Visual Studio however.
  >>
  >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
  >>
  >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
  >> available.
  >> I
  >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
  >> videos
  >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they would
  >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty quickly,
  >> and
  >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show 
  >> you
  >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so far)
  >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
  >>
  >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
  >> video series right now.
  >>
  >> John W. Colby
  >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
  >>
  >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
  >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
  >>
  >>
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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Sun Jul 24 20:26:58 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 18:26:58 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Jet 4 SP 8
Message-ID: <004801c590b7$f3c7ce20$6401a8c0@laptop1>

I am reading an article online about Access security and it is talking about
sandbox mode. To get there you need to be using Jet 4 SP 8.
 
I am running AXP on one machine and A2k3 on the other. How do I check Jet
Version and SP release.
 
Here is the article link.
 
http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC011461801033
 
Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA
 


From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Jul 24 22:12:06 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:12:06 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364E04A@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Karen
Am I to assume if the NOTSEEN check box is checked you would like to
create a brand new 'appointment' ?

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me with a snippet of
code.

I want to work with 4 fields in a sub table, as follows:

Checkbox "NotSeen" 
Date field "NextApp"
Textbox "Priority", which runs from 1 to 4 Date field "DateReschedule"

What I would like to do (if only I was any good at VBA) is when NotSeen
is checked, the whole record would be copied and appended. Priorities 2
thru 4 would each move up a notch, i.e., 2 would become 1, etc.
DateReschedule would take the date from NextApp and...

1. For the new priority 1, add 1 day to the date from NextApp and put it
in DateReschedule
     
2. For the new priority 2, add 2 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule
     
3. For the new priority 3, add 3 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule

Finally I would like the whole record to turn red if the priority is #
1, either from this snippet's conversion or when entered directly
(actually I think this will be unattractive, but my boss wants the color
to highlight the priority).

Is this doable in whole or in part?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 24 22:15:51 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:15:51 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
References: <000a01c58e62$be555610$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805><BAY103-DAV627EDA34DF58782227F54AEC90@phx.gbl>
	<002901c590ab$8fe53de0$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV515AE9B1C3C3EAFD756FCAECA0@phx.gbl>

..yes ...lessons learned the hard way ...give a client full Access and 
"things" happen ...bad things ..."upgrade" that client to the newest version 
of Office Standard (w/runtime) rather than Office Pro and save them a lot of 
money ...its amazing how many strange happenings stop happening to your apps 
:(

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


<<how does anyone that actually supports distributed
Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having full
Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve first

William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing around
  VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name is
  similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports 
cleanly,
  at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

  ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports distributed
  Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having 
full
  Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve 
first
  :(

  William

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
  To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  > William,
  >
  > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in the
  > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes.  The
  > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the controls, 
the
  > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual
  > Studio.
  >
  > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have 
never
  > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even 
purchased
  > it
  > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is very
  > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
  >
  > John W. Colby
  > www.ColbyConsulting.com
  >
  > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
  > http://folding.stanford.edu/
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
  > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William 
Hindman
  > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
  > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
  >
  >
  > JC
  >
  > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio
  > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of VB.net 
in
  > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the
  > VBExpress route instead?
  >
  > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
  >
  > William
  >
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
  > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
  > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
  > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
  > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
  >
  >
  >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
  >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE
  >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels
  >> almost identical to the
  >> Visual Studio however.
  >>
  >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
  >>
  >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
  >> available.
  >> I
  >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
  >> videos
  >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they 
would
  >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty 
quickly,
  >> and
  >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show
  >> you
  >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so 
far)
  >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
  >>
  >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
  >> video series right now.
  >>
  >> John W. Colby
  >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
  >>
  >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
  >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
  >>
  >>
  >> --
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From karenr7 at oz.net  Sun Jul 24 22:32:28 2005
From: karenr7 at oz.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:32:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
In-Reply-To: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364E04A@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <200507250332.j6P3WOR15243@databaseadvisors.com>

Exactly. I was just noodling around with this and figured out how to copy
and append the record with onclick:

    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend

But I don't know how to do the rest of it.

Thanks.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Am I to assume if the NOTSEEN check box is checked you would like to
create a brand new 'appointment' ?

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me with a snippet of
code.

I want to work with 4 fields in a sub table, as follows:

Checkbox "NotSeen" 
Date field "NextApp"
Textbox "Priority", which runs from 1 to 4 Date field "DateReschedule"

What I would like to do (if only I was any good at VBA) is when NotSeen
is checked, the whole record would be copied and appended. Priorities 2
thru 4 would each move up a notch, i.e., 2 would become 1, etc.
DateReschedule would take the date from NextApp and...

1. For the new priority 1, add 1 day to the date from NextApp and put it
in DateReschedule
     
2. For the new priority 2, add 2 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule
     
3. For the new priority 3, add 3 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule

Finally I would like the whole record to turn red if the priority is #
1, either from this snippet's conversion or when entered directly
(actually I think this will be unattractive, but my boss wants the color
to highlight the priority).

Is this doable in whole or in part?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


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From karenr7 at oz.net  Sun Jul 24 22:40:14 2005
From: karenr7 at oz.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:40:14 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
In-Reply-To: <200507250332.j6P3WOR15243@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <200507250340.j6P3eAR17415@databaseadvisors.com>

Hmmmm... I just played with this bit of code again and realized that it was
duplicating the record with NotSeen checked, which duplicated the record
with NotSeen checked which....

Like the picture of the little girl with a box or salt on the Morton Salt
box.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Exactly. I was just noodling around with this and figured out how to copy
and append the record with onclick:

    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend

But I don't know how to do the rest of it.

Thanks.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Am I to assume if the NOTSEEN check box is checked you would like to
create a brand new 'appointment' ?

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me with a snippet of
code.

I want to work with 4 fields in a sub table, as follows:

Checkbox "NotSeen" 
Date field "NextApp"
Textbox "Priority", which runs from 1 to 4 Date field "DateReschedule"

What I would like to do (if only I was any good at VBA) is when NotSeen
is checked, the whole record would be copied and appended. Priorities 2
thru 4 would each move up a notch, i.e., 2 would become 1, etc.
DateReschedule would take the date from NextApp and...

1. For the new priority 1, add 1 day to the date from NextApp and put it
in DateReschedule
     
2. For the new priority 2, add 2 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule
     
3. For the new priority 3, add 3 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule

Finally I would like the whole record to turn red if the priority is #
1, either from this snippet's conversion or when entered directly
(actually I think this will be unattractive, but my boss wants the color
to highlight the priority).

Is this doable in whole or in part?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Sun Jul 24 23:34:28 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:34:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364E13B@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Karen
Demo Sent off line
See ya

DD
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hmmmm... I just played with this bit of code again and realized that it
was duplicating the record with NotSeen checked, which duplicated the
record with NotSeen checked which....

Like the picture of the little girl with a box or salt on the Morton
Salt box.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Exactly. I was just noodling around with this and figured out how to
copy and append the record with onclick:

    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend

But I don't know how to do the rest of it.

Thanks.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Am I to assume if the NOTSEEN check box is checked you would like to
create a brand new 'appointment' ?

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me with a snippet of
code.

I want to work with 4 fields in a sub table, as follows:

Checkbox "NotSeen" 
Date field "NextApp"
Textbox "Priority", which runs from 1 to 4 Date field "DateReschedule"

What I would like to do (if only I was any good at VBA) is when NotSeen
is checked, the whole record would be copied and appended. Priorities 2
thru 4 would each move up a notch, i.e., 2 would become 1, etc.
DateReschedule would take the date from NextApp and...

1. For the new priority 1, add 1 day to the date from NextApp and put it
in DateReschedule
     
2. For the new priority 2, add 2 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule
     
3. For the new priority 3, add 3 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule

Finally I would like the whole record to turn red if the priority is #
1, either from this snippet's conversion or when entered directly
(actually I think this will be unattractive, but my boss wants the color
to highlight the priority).

Is this doable in whole or in part?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 25 01:47:54 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:47:54 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Jet 4 SP 8
References: <004801c590b7$f3c7ce20$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <42E48B1A.4010808@shaw.ca>

Here is the Jet SP-8 file manifest
Just check by right clicking your Dao360.dll  for property file version
should be at least Dao360.dll         3.60.8025.0     557,328 bytes
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=829558

You can find again by hunting through general mdac portal for jet
http://www.microsoft.com/data

Joe Hecht wrote:

>I am reading an article online about Access security and it is talking about
>sandbox mode. To get there you need to be using Jet 4 SP 8.
> 
>I am running AXP on one machine and A2k3 on the other. How do I check Jet
>Version and SP release.
> 
>Here is the article link.
> 
>http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC011461801033
> 
>Joe Hecht
>Los Angeles CA
> 
>  
>

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From karenr7 at oz.net  Mon Jul 25 04:03:15 2005
From: karenr7 at oz.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:03:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
In-Reply-To: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364E13B@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <200507250903.j6P93TR31070@databaseadvisors.com>

Darren,
This is terrific! Thank you.

And, unfortunately, my co-workers won't be able to figure out how to read
your funny comments.

Thanks again, this will work just fine.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:34 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Demo Sent off line
See ya

DD
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hmmmm... I just played with this bit of code again and realized that it
was duplicating the record with NotSeen checked, which duplicated the
record with NotSeen checked which....

Like the picture of the little girl with a box or salt on the Morton
Salt box.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Exactly. I was just noodling around with this and figured out how to
copy and append the record with onclick:

    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdSelectRecord
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdCopy
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdPasteAppend

But I don't know how to do the rest of it.

Thanks.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Am I to assume if the NOTSEEN check box is checked you would like to
create a brand new 'appointment' ?

Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me with a snippet of
code.

I want to work with 4 fields in a sub table, as follows:

Checkbox "NotSeen" 
Date field "NextApp"
Textbox "Priority", which runs from 1 to 4 Date field "DateReschedule"

What I would like to do (if only I was any good at VBA) is when NotSeen
is checked, the whole record would be copied and appended. Priorities 2
thru 4 would each move up a notch, i.e., 2 would become 1, etc.
DateReschedule would take the date from NextApp and...

1. For the new priority 1, add 1 day to the date from NextApp and put it
in DateReschedule
     
2. For the new priority 2, add 2 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule
     
3. For the new priority 3, add 3 days to the date from NextApp and put
it in DateReschedule

Finally I would like the whole record to turn red if the priority is #
1, either from this snippet's conversion or when entered directly
(actually I think this will be unattractive, but my boss wants the color
to highlight the priority).

Is this doable in whole or in part?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 


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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 25 08:46:59 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:46:59 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
In-Reply-To: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364E13B@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <000201c5911f$5541b370$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Inquiring minds want to know how to do this?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:34 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Demo Sent off line
See ya

DD
 





From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul 25 09:14:08 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:14:08 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] MS certification
Message-ID: <20050725141405.XNRC19628.ibm56aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

http://searchvb.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid8_gci1109668,00.h
tml
 
Susan H. 


From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Mon Jul 25 09:49:52 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:49:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Find a record in table with intervals
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EAFE7E@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

I have table (table1) with dates and a value associated with the date.

For example

 

1/1/2001                  20

7/13/2003                27

12/26/2003              31

6/4/2004                  33

1/13/2005                40

6/7/2005                  44

 

I have another table (table 2) with values in it also. Using the date in
this table I need to find the value in table one that would be correct
for that date. It is assumed the value in table one carries forward
until the date changes. The value associated with the last date carries
forward forever.

 

For example a date of 10/13/2004 should return a value of 33. I was able
to achieve the desired result with several if then else and do loops but
was hoping for a better solution. Was hoping for something like the
vlookup function in Excel.

 

Thanks.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

FAX (432) 688-3799

 



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Mon Jul 25 09:55:00 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:55:00 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Find a record in table with intervals
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EAFE7E@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <20050725145457.CFCT27018.ibm68aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

A subquery using IN? It sounds to me like the real work is in the
conditional expressions. 

Susan H. 

I have table (table1) with dates and a value associated with the date.

For example

 

1/1/2001                  20

7/13/2003                27

12/26/2003              31

6/4/2004                  33

1/13/2005                40

6/7/2005                  44

 

I have another table (table 2) with values in it also. Using the date in
this table I need to find the value in table one that would be correct for
that date. It is assumed the value in table one carries forward until the
date changes. The value associated with the last date carries forward
forever.

 

For example a date of 10/13/2004 should return a value of 33. I was able to
achieve the desired result with several if then else and do loops but was
hoping for a better solution. Was hoping for something like the vlookup
function in Excel.

 

Thanks.

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number
of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

FAX (432) 688-3799

 

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From jim.moss at jlmoss.net  Mon Jul 25 10:16:36 2005
From: jim.moss at jlmoss.net (Jim Moss)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:16:36 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Access SQL
In-Reply-To: <42E38A56.31204.31A380C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <000601c58fec$6faa9030$6401a8c0@laptop1>
	<42E38A56.31204.31A380C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <2969.65.196.182.34.1122304596.squirrel@65.196.182.34>

You can optionally set the database to use SQL Server compatible syntax
(ANSI 92) in the options menu.


> On 23 Jul 2005 at 18:10, Joe Hecht wrote:
>
>> What kind of SQL does Access use?
>>
>> Is it T- SQL ?
>>
>
> No, it's Access SQL.
> It's similar to T-SQL in that the basic commands  INSERT, SELECT, DELETE,
> UPDATE, JOIN, WHERE, GROUPBY etc) and syntax are the same.
>
> The main differences are that is uses standard Access/Windows wildcards
> rather than the T-SQL ones ("*" = "%" and "?" = "_") and it uses VBA
> functions in lieu of the T-SQL ones for type convertions, string
> manipulation, conditionals (such as IIF()) etc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Mon Jul 25 10:31:41 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:31:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dim fm as form or fm as Form_ rmCert
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337716@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

In a module I referenced an open form as follows:

dim fm as Form_frmCert 
Set fm = Forms!frmCert
....do stuff using txt values on the form
run Excel, place the text values in ranges on a worksheet
etc
	If Not (wb Is Nothing) Then Set wb = Nothing
    	If Not (fm Is Nothing) Then Set fm = Nothing
	appExcel.Quit
    	Set appExcel = Nothing

When the function finished an instance of Excel was still running.when I
changed the dim statement to read
	dim fm as form
the instance of Excel terminated properly. I've learned the hard way that
whenever I open an instance of Excel EVERY object variable must be set to
nothing because Access cannot be relied upon to cleanup properly. However,
I'm curious what is going on here. Why does fm not go out of scope?

Jim Hale

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jul 25 10:44:13 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:44:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Dim fm as form or fm as Form_ rmCert
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B44@infoserver01.infostat.local>

In order to set frm = Forms!frmCert, frmCert has to be open.  SWAG:
Unless you close it, the reference to its module (Form_frmCert) probably
won't go completely out of scope, since the object is still open.

Charlotte


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Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:32 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Dim fm as form or fm as Form_ rmCert


In a module I referenced an open form as follows:

dim fm as Form_frmCert 
Set fm = Forms!frmCert
....do stuff using txt values on the form
run Excel, place the text values in ranges on a worksheet
etc
	If Not (wb Is Nothing) Then Set wb = Nothing
    	If Not (fm Is Nothing) Then Set fm = Nothing
	appExcel.Quit
    	Set appExcel = Nothing

When the function finished an instance of Excel was still running.when I
changed the dim statement to read
	dim fm as form
the instance of Excel terminated properly. I've learned the hard way
that whenever I open an instance of Excel EVERY object variable must be
set to nothing because Access cannot be relied upon to cleanup properly.
However, I'm curious what is going on here. Why does fm not go out of
scope?

Jim Hale

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jul 25 10:47:24 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:47:24 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B45@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Handy, isn't it.  I fell over it a month or so ago too.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado


I found this:

http://www.connectionstrings.com/

John W. Colby
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 25 10:59:46 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:59:46 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Jet 4 SP 8
References: <004801c590b7$f3c7ce20$6401a8c0@laptop1> <42E48B1A.4010808@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <42E50C72.3060606@shaw.ca>

This KB might be a bit clearer as it it shows how to identify the 
mjset40.dll version number
for the security patch that was added to Jet SP8 April 13, 2004

How to obtain the latest service pack for the Microsoft Jet 4.0 Database 
Engine
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239114/


MartyConnelly wrote:

> Here is the Jet SP-8 file manifest
> Just check by right clicking your Dao360.dll  for property file version
> should be at least Dao360.dll         3.60.8025.0     557,328 bytes
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=829558
>
> You can find again by hunting through general mdac portal for jet
> http://www.microsoft.com/data
>
> Joe Hecht wrote:
>
>> I am reading an article online about Access security and it is 
>> talking about
>> sandbox mode. To get there you need to be using Jet 4 SP 8.
>>
>> I am running AXP on one machine and A2k3 on the other. How do I check 
>> Jet
>> Version and SP release.
>>
>> Here is the article link.
>>
>> http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC011461801033 
>>
>>
>> Joe Hecht
>> Los Angeles CA
>>
>>  
>>
>

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Mon Jul 25 11:13:01 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:13:01 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B45@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <42E50F8D.4080504@shaw.ca>

Here is one from Carl Prothman that moved recently however the redirects 
give a 404 error
It is the old able-consulting.com site, that in addition to connection 
strings listings
had an ADO, ADO.Net  and ADOX faq's
http://www.carlprothman.net/

Charlotte Foust wrote:

>Handy, isn't it.  I fell over it a month or so ago too.
>
>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com] 
>Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:55 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
>dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
>
>
>I found this:
>
>http://www.connectionstrings.com/
>
>John W. Colby
>www.ColbyConsulting.com 
>
>Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
>http://folding.stanford.edu/
>
>
>  
>

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From karenr7 at oz.net  Mon Jul 25 15:57:20 2005
From: karenr7 at oz.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:57:20 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
In-Reply-To: <000201c5911f$5541b370$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <200507252057.j6PKvJR10993@databaseadvisors.com>

Shall I email you a copy of Darrin's code?

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Inquiring minds want to know how to do this?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:34 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Demo Sent off line
See ya

DD
 



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Jul 25 15:58:55 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:58:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Dim fm as form or fm as Form_ rmCert
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337716@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <000001c5915b$aef0df40$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

I cannot say what exactly is going on, but I can say that...

>I've learned the hard way that whenever I open an instance of Excel EVERY
object variable must be set to nothing because Access cannot be relied upon
to cleanup properly.

No, you need to clean up EVERY object variable regardless of the object
type.  Access' garbage collection is not reliable and you will end up with
all kinds of weird symptoms if you don't clean up behind yourself.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hale, Jim
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:32 AM
To: 'Accessd (E-mail)
Subject: [AccessD] Dim fm as form or fm as Form_ rmCert


In a module I referenced an open form as follows:

dim fm as Form_frmCert 
Set fm = Forms!frmCert
....do stuff using txt values on the form
run Excel, place the text values in ranges on a worksheet
etc
	If Not (wb Is Nothing) Then Set wb = Nothing
    	If Not (fm Is Nothing) Then Set fm = Nothing
	appExcel.Quit
    	Set appExcel = Nothing

When the function finished an instance of Excel was still running.when I
changed the dim statement to read
	dim fm as form
the instance of Excel terminated properly. I've learned the hard way that
whenever I open an instance of Excel EVERY object variable must be set to
nothing because Access cannot be relied upon to cleanup properly. However,
I'm curious what is going on here. Why does fm not go out of scope?

Jim Hale

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Mon Jul 25 16:47:17 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:47:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Why is recordset not updating?
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EAFFB3@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

The table is not getting populated using the following code. I think
addnew and update are messed up somewhere.

 

myds.AddNew

        myds.Fields(0) = myds2.Fields(0)

        myds.Fields(1) = ProdDate

        myds.Fields(2) = myds2.Fields(2)

        If RecordCounter = 1 Then

            myds.AddNew

            myds.Fields(3) = myds2.Fields(2) / 365.25

         Else

            Do Until PriorCumTotInj < myds1.Fields(2)

                FluidType = myds1.Fields(5)

                myds1.MoveNext

            Loop

            myds1.MovePrevious

            If FluidType = "CO2" Then

                myds.Fields(3) = myds1.Fields(2) + PriorCumTotInj

            Else

                myds.Fields(3) = myds1.Fields(3) + PriorCumTotInj

            End If

        End If

        ProdDate = ProdDate + 1

        myds.Update

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Jul 25 16:48:08 2005
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:48:08 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access SQL
In-Reply-To: <2969.65.196.182.34.1122304596.squirrel@65.196.182.34>
References: <42E38A56.31204.31A380C9@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <42E5EAB8.19757.3AEBF2E7@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

On 25 Jul 2005 at 10:16, Jim Moss wrote:

> You can optionally set the database to use SQL Server compatible syntax
> (ANSI 92) in the options menu.
> 
> 

Only in Access 2002 and above.

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Jul 25 17:22:35 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:22:35 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Why is recordset not updating?
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B48@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I think you'll have to post the missing bits of this code before anyone
can say for sure what's happening. Without knowing whether Option
Explicit is on and what your variables are declared as and what myds and
myds2 and myds1 actually represent, we're just guessing.  

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:47 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Why is recordset not updating?


The table is not getting populated using the following code. I think
addnew and update are messed up somewhere.

 

myds.AddNew

        myds.Fields(0) = myds2.Fields(0)

        myds.Fields(1) = ProdDate

        myds.Fields(2) = myds2.Fields(2)

        If RecordCounter = 1 Then

            myds.AddNew

            myds.Fields(3) = myds2.Fields(2) / 365.25

         Else

            Do Until PriorCumTotInj < myds1.Fields(2)

                FluidType = myds1.Fields(5)

                myds1.MoveNext

            Loop

            myds1.MovePrevious

            If FluidType = "CO2" Then

                myds.Fields(3) = myds1.Fields(2) + PriorCumTotInj

            Else

                myds.Fields(3) = myds1.Fields(3) + PriorCumTotInj

            End If

        End If

        ProdDate = ProdDate + 1

        myds.Update

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Mon Jul 25 18:54:28 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:54:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364E3DB@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

HI Karen
Feel free to offer a "Me too" on what I sent you
Just get 'em to send the me too's reply to your 'real' email address

I emailed Joe a copy of what I sent you

See ya

DD
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen
Rosenstiel
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 6:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Shall I email you a copy of Darrin's code?

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Inquiring minds want to know how to do this?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:34 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Demo Sent off line
See ya

DD
 



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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Mon Jul 25 19:10:29 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:10:29 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC14@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

But beware!  Some of the strings are specific to commercial offerings.
For example, the postgreSQL string is for the CoreLabs PostgreSQLDirect
.NET Data Provider.  It is not for the vanilla odbc or OLEDB .net
connections.

bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 1:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado

Handy, isn't it.  I fell over it a month or so ago too.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado


I found this:

http://www.connectionstrings.com/

John W. Colby
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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Mon Jul 25 19:14:18 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:14:18 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC15@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

And p.s. the equivalent postgres connectivity is available GPL'ed
through the npgsql project (sorry no link)
bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bruen, Bruce
Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 10:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado

But beware!  Some of the strings are specific to commercial offerings.
For example, the postgreSQL string is for the CoreLabs PostgreSQLDirect
.NET Data Provider.  It is not for the vanilla odbc or OLEDB .net
connections.

bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 1:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado

Handy, isn't it.  I fell over it a month or so ago too.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado


I found this:

http://www.connectionstrings.com/

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 25 19:17:44 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:17:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
In-Reply-To: <200507252057.j6PKvJR10993@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c59177$72fc24b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

Thanks, Darrin already did.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:57 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Shall I email you a copy of Darrin's code?

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Inquiring minds want to know how to do this?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:34 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Demo Sent off line
See ya

DD
 



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From karenr7 at oz.net  Mon Jul 25 19:34:05 2005
From: karenr7 at oz.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:34:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Help with a snippet
In-Reply-To: <001a01c59177$72fc24b0$6401a8c0@laptop1>
Message-ID: <200507260034.j6Q0Y2R30972@databaseadvisors.com>

OK, any me too's, please email me off line at "karenr7 at oz.net" (Spam
blocker -- you all know the drill).

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:18 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Thanks, Darrin already did.

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:57 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; 'Access Developers discussion and problem
solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Shall I email you a copy of Darrin's code?

Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe Hecht
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Inquiring minds want to know how to do this?

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren Dick
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:34 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Help with a snippet

Hi Karen
Demo Sent off line
See ya

DD
 



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Jul 25 20:23:58 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:23:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
In-Reply-To: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC14@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <000601c59180$b65d81f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

LOL, unlikely that I will be finding out any time soon.

John W. Colby
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bruen, Bruce
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado


But beware!  Some of the strings are specific to commercial offerings. For
example, the postgreSQL string is for the CoreLabs PostgreSQLDirect .NET
Data Provider.  It is not for the vanilla odbc or OLEDB .net connections.

bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 1:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado

Handy, isn't it.  I fell over it a month or so ago too.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado


I found this:

http://www.connectionstrings.com/

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au  Mon Jul 25 21:23:21 2005
From: Bruce.Bruen at railcorp.nsw.gov.au (Bruen, Bruce)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:23:21 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado
Message-ID: <F2BE8EAB3EA585418337B71BCE6F3BF304EC16@msmet100.rail.nsw.gov.au>

Watch out John, the OSF is sneaking up behind you!
I am currently using an access FE to a postgres backend which consistes
of extension tables to a commercial modeling tool that uses a Jet bas
backend! (It can also use certain other heavyweight back ends like
SQLServer, but getting the govt to buy an SQL server licence just for
developers.... well.  So we used a postgres backend, cost $0, setup 1
day, functional weight => SQL server)

bruce 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. Colby
Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 11:24 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado

LOL, unlikely that I will be finding out any time soon.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bruen, Bruce
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado


But beware!  Some of the strings are specific to commercial offerings.
For example, the postgreSQL string is for the CoreLabs PostgreSQLDirect
.NET Data Provider.  It is not for the vanilla odbc or OLEDB .net
connections.

bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 1:47 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado

Handy, isn't it.  I fell over it a month or so ago too.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Connection strings for ado


I found this:

http://www.connectionstrings.com/

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From kimjwiggins at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 25 22:04:13 2005
From: kimjwiggins at yahoo.com (Kim Wiggins)
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:04:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Problem with bookmarks in automation
Message-ID: <20050726030413.33406.qmail@web53609.mail.yahoo.com>


Hey all,

I am really trying to make this word Automation work.  I am using VB to write the code but it will not recognize the bookmarks.  It opens the document and everything like it should but it will not recognize the book mark.  The error I get is this:

the requested member of the collection does not exist

 

It bombs out at the green highlighted code and I can't understand why.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Kim

 

Here is my code 

Private Sub cmdLogEntry_Click()

   ' Declare the variable.

   Dim objWD As Word.Application

   Dim WordDoc As Word.Document

   Dim WordRange As Word.Range

   Dim strPath As String

   

   ' Set the variable (runs new instance of Word.)

   Set objWD = CreateObject("Word.Application")

   

   'make application visible

   objWD.Application.Visible = True

 

   'Get Path of Current DB

    strPath = "C:\AMS\AMS.mdb"

    

   'Strip FileName to Get Path to Doc

    Do

        lngInStr = InStr(lngInStr + 1, strPath, "\")

    Loop While (InStr(lngInStr + 1, strPath, "\") <> 0)

    

    'Get path up to the last ?\?

    strPath = Left(strPath, lngInStr)

    

    'Append document name onto the end of the stripped path

    strPath = strPath & "AirframeTemplate.doc"

    

    'open the word document

    Set doc = objWD.Documents.Open(strPath)

    

    'Insert text into bookmark

     objWD.ActiveDocument.Bookmarks.Item(?AT?).Range.Text = frmAircraftWO.txtAircraftType

 

   ' Quit Word.

    objWD.Quit

    

   ' Clear the variable from memory.

   Set objWD = Nothing

End Sub

 

 


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From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:46:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes
In-Reply-To: <20050726030413.33406.qmail@web53609.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050726104640.24304.qmail@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

What if I have 10 text boxes on a form all across in a row and I wanted to put a box around the first 5 and another box (boarder) around the second 5? This box/border would expand the height of the detail section of each page. 
 
I was thinking of the Me.Line method but don't know how to 
 
1) Just put it around certain boxes 
 
2) How to have more than one line method going on at once.
 
Thanks.




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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 26 05:49:05 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 03:49:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes
In-Reply-To: <20050726104640.24304.qmail@web33110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050726104905.1720.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am sorry, this is on a report and not a form.

Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com> wrote:What if I have 10 text boxes on a form all across in a row and I wanted to put a box around the first 5 and another box (boarder) around the second 5? This box/border would expand the height of the detail section of each page. 

I was thinking of the Me.Line method but don't know how to 

1) Just put it around certain boxes 

2) How to have more than one line method going on at once.

Thanks.




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From accessd666 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 26 06:53:55 2005
From: accessd666 at yahoo.com (Sad Der)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 04:53:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes
In-Reply-To: <20050726104905.1720.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050726115355.8898.qmail@web31612.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Lonnie,

can give some more details?
So, you want to create a line around textboxes. Do you
want this for all rows?
If so, why not use a rectangle and set the visible
property to true or false?

SD

--- Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am sorry, this is on a report and not a form.
> 
> Lonnie Johnson <prodevmg at yahoo.com> wrote:What if I
> have 10 text boxes on a form all across in a row and
> I wanted to put a box around the first 5 and another
> box (boarder) around the second 5? This box/border
> would expand the height of the detail section of
> each page. 
> 
> I was thinking of the Me.Line method but don't know
> how to 
> 
> 1) Just put it around certain boxes 
> 
> 2) How to have more than one line method going on at
> once.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 07:01:42 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 08:01:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Problem with bookmarks in automation
In-Reply-To: <20050726030413.33406.qmail@web53609.mail.yahoo.com>
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On 25/07/05, Kim Wiggins <kimjwiggins at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am really trying to make this word Automation work.  I am using VB to write the code but it will not recognize the bookmarks.  It opens the document and everything like it should but it will not recognize the book mark.  The error I get is this:
> 
> the requested member of the collection does not exist
> 
> It bombs out at the green highlighted code and I can't understand why.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Formatting doesn't come through to the list.

Which line is causing the problem? This one?

>      objWD.ActiveDocument.Bookmarks.Item("AT").Range.Text = frmAircraftWO.txtAircraftType

If so, is AT the name of a bookmark in the main body of the document?
Or is it in a header or footer?

Are you sure the active document the one referenceced in the variable doc?

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From prodevmg at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 26 07:52:06 2005
From: prodevmg at yahoo.com (Lonnie Johnson)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 05:52:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes
In-Reply-To: <20050726115355.8898.qmail@web31612.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050726125206.56638.qmail@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for responding.
 
If I use the rectangle I only get a box around the textboxes for that line and then another box around the textboxes on the next row. 
 
If I have 10 lines of data, I want one box to show around these text boxes for all ten rows. Sort of like a border for the entire page of detail.
 
Thanks again.

Sad Der <accessd666 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Lonnie,

can give some more details?
So, you want to create a line around textboxes. Do you
want this for all rows?
If so, why not use a rectangle and set the visible
property to true or false?

SD

--- Lonnie Johnson 
wrote:

> I am sorry, this is on a report and not a form.
> 
> Lonnie Johnson 
wrote:What if I
> have 10 text boxes on a form all across in a row and
> I wanted to put a box around the first 5 and another
> box (boarder) around the second 5? This box/border
> would expand the height of the detail section of
> each page. 
> 
> I was thinking of the Me.Line method but don't know
> how to 
> 
> 1) Just put it around certain boxes 
> 
> 2) How to have more than one line method going on at
> once.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
> Lonnie Johnson
> ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access
> Databases
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jul 26 09:04:08 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:04:08 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <008601c591ea$e4714350$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Dear List:

Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the mouse pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a link, and I used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's own click event.

But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 2-3 lines of code.

MTIA,

Rocky


From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Tue Jul 26 09:14:22 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:14:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337720@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

Is this it?
http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0044.htm

Regards,
Jim Hale

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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:04 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


Dear List:

Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the mouse
pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a link, and I
used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's own click event.

But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 2-3
lines of code.

MTIA,

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From Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com  Tue Jul 26 09:17:32 2005
From: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com (Ehlers, Rick)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:17:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <A49154D170A54C42BCA71C9770A931E7010DDBFF@excincymb02.cinergy.com>

Rocky,

 I use

	DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
 and
      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends

to change the pointer. Is this what you are thinking of?


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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:04 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand

Dear List:

Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the mouse
pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a link,
and I used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's own
click event.

But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 2-3
lines of code.

MTIA,

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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jul 26 09:41:15 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:41:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337720@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <00b401c591f0$138f1590$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Jim:

It doesn't have the hand pointer pre-defined.  You need it in an icon.  The 
other routine MouseCursor looks like it should change the mouse pointer but 
I there's no comment about the values to pass to it.  experimented with a 
few values but none changed the cursor.

Regards,

Rocky

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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:14 AM
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> Is this it?
> http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0044.htm
>
> Regards,
> Jim Hale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:04 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the mouse
> pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a link, and 
> I
> used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's own click event.
>
> But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 2-3
> lines of code.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jul 26 09:56:02 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:56:02 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
References: <A49154D170A54C42BCA71C9770A931E7010DDBFF@excincymb02.cinergy.com>
Message-ID: <00c001c591f2$24264c50$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

Rick:

I was looking for that snip that changes the muse pointer into a hand.  I've 
got labels on the main form with OnClick events instead of command buttons 
(which are clunky looking).  I've also got a mouse move event for each one 
already which displays a bit of description of the label's function.

Now, in that mouse move event, I'd like to change the pointer to a hand as a 
visual cue that the label is a clickable link of some sort.  I'm gilding the 
lily here a bit, but it's a consumer product, not a commercial application, 
so it wants a bit of sizzle.

I did this before and it worked real well.  I just can't remember the app I 
built it into so I can't find it again.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky

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From: "Ehlers, Rick" <Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


> Rocky,
>
> I use
>
> DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
> and
>      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends
>
> to change the pointer. Is this what you are thinking of?
>
>
> Rick Ehlers
>  Power Services
>  Performance And Valuation
>  Annex - EX510
>  Phone: (513) 287-2047
>  Fax: (513) 287-3698
>  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:04 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
>
> Dear List:
>
> Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the mouse
> pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a link,
> and I used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's own
> click event.
>
> But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 2-3
> lines of code.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 26 10:00:16 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:00:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
Message-ID: <BAY104-F249F5766FEF20EA461B29D9ACD0@phx.gbl>

I'd like to put a demo on my website as a download and have it run for 30 
days, checking the stored date against the system date.  I know I've seen 
this somewhere, but cannot seem to find the code.  Can anyone point me in 
the right direction?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
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Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
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From paul.hartland at fsmail.net  Tue Jul 26 10:04:55 2005
From: paul.hartland at fsmail.net (paul.hartland at fsmail.net)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:04:55 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
Message-ID: <28960735.1122390295037.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>

What I tend to do is when they first open the application, store the system date and calculate 30 days in advance and also store this, then you just check the stored date which is 30 days in advance each time they open the app, if you check a stored date against system date, they can always keep changing the date on their machine can't they ?

Paul Hartland





Message date : Jul 26 2005, 04:01 PM
>From : "Julie Reardon-Taylor" 
To : accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Copy to : 
Subject : [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
I'd like to put a demo on my website as a download and have it run for 30 
days, checking the stored date against the system date. I know I've seen 
this somewhere, but cannot seem to find the code. Can anyone point me in 
the right direction?



Julie Reardon-Taylor
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44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jul 26 10:06:16 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:06:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F137772AB@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I think the simplest way to do this is to enter some text (anything will do)
into the label's Hyperlink address property. You will then have to adjust
the font underline property (which will have been automatically to 'Yes')
and the forecolor property( which will have changed to a blue color).

But after that you get the hand icon and there's zero code required.

Lambert

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Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


Rick:

I was looking for that snip that changes the muse pointer into a hand.  I've

got labels on the main form with OnClick events instead of command buttons 
(which are clunky looking).  I've also got a mouse move event for each one 
already which displays a bit of description of the label's function.

Now, in that mouse move event, I'd like to change the pointer to a hand as a

visual cue that the label is a clickable link of some sort.  I'm gilding the

lily here a bit, but it's a consumer product, not a commercial application, 
so it wants a bit of sizzle.

I did this before and it worked real well.  I just can't remember the app I 
built it into so I can't find it again.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ehlers, Rick" <Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


> Rocky,
>
> I use
>
> DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
> and
>      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends
>
> to change the pointer. Is this what you are thinking of?
>
>
> Rick Ehlers
>  Power Services
>  Performance And Valuation
>  Annex - EX510
>  Phone: (513) 287-2047
>  Fax: (513) 287-3698
>  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:04 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
>
> Dear List:
>
> Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the 
> mouse pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a 
> link, and I used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's 
> own click event.
>
> But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 
> 2-3 lines of code.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jul 26 10:08:31 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:08:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F137772AF@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Oops. Not quite that simple. You get the icon, the click event will fire,
but then Access tries to action the hyperlink too. How to turn that off?

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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


I think the simplest way to do this is to enter some text (anything will do)
into the label's Hyperlink address property. You will then have to adjust
the font underline property (which will have been automatically to 'Yes')
and the forecolor property( which will have changed to a blue color).

But after that you get the hand icon and there's zero code required.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


Rick:

I was looking for that snip that changes the muse pointer into a hand.  I've

got labels on the main form with OnClick events instead of command buttons 
(which are clunky looking).  I've also got a mouse move event for each one 
already which displays a bit of description of the label's function.

Now, in that mouse move event, I'd like to change the pointer to a hand as a

visual cue that the label is a clickable link of some sort.  I'm gilding the

lily here a bit, but it's a consumer product, not a commercial application, 
so it wants a bit of sizzle.

I did this before and it worked real well.  I just can't remember the app I 
built it into so I can't find it again.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ehlers, Rick" <Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


> Rocky,
>
> I use
>
> DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
> and
>      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends
>
> to change the pointer. Is this what you are thinking of?
>
>
> Rick Ehlers
>  Power Services
>  Performance And Valuation
>  Annex - EX510
>  Phone: (513) 287-2047
>  Fax: (513) 287-3698
>  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:04 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
>
> Dear List:
>
> Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the
> mouse pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a 
> link, and I used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's 
> own click event.
>
> But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only
> 2-3 lines of code.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Tue Jul 26 10:10:12 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:10:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
In-Reply-To: <00b401c591f0$138f1590$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <000a01c591f4$2034dbf0$2e01a8c0@dorismanning>

Screen.MousePointer is what you use to change the mouse pointer.  You pass
it the index of the icon you want but I don't off the top of my head know
what the Link icon's index is.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand

Jim:

It doesn't have the hand pointer pre-defined.  You need it in an icon.  The 
other routine MouseCursor looks like it should change the mouse pointer but 
I there's no comment about the values to pass to it.  experimented with a 
few values but none changed the cursor.

Regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hale, Jim" <Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:14 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


> Is this it?
> http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0044.htm
>
> Regards,
> Jim Hale
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:04 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
>
>
> Dear List:
>
> Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the mouse
> pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a link, and

> I
> used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's own click event.
>
> But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 2-3
> lines of code.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
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From darsant at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 10:12:36 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:12:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
In-Reply-To: <28960735.1122390295037.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
References: <28960735.1122390295037.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a05072608123c2aad6c@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/26/05, paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> wrote:
> What I tend to do is when they first open the application, store the system date and calculate 30 days in advance and also store this, then you just check the stored date which is 30 days in advance each time they open the app, if you check a stored date against system date, they can always keep changing the date on their machine can't they ?
> 
> Paul Hartland

The optimum solution I can think of is to have the two fields you
mentioned, and use them as sort of a between statement in which it can
run. First time the program opens, it sets both dates.

Next time the user opens the application, first it checks to make sure
the current date is between those dates, and if it is, it updates the
current system date with the new value. This way, the date window that
the program can be opened in slowly expires as time progresses.

If the user sets their computer to day X  time Y after they got the
App but before their last use time,  the start time is already after
the current time, and the program cannot open.

-- 
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"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
-Albert Einstein


From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Tue Jul 26 10:21:13 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:21:13 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C37EED@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED69@ADGSERVER>

Rick,

If you want to get away from the docmd function, you can use:
Screen.mousepointer=11 to turn on the busy icon
And
Screen.mousepointer=0 to set it back to the regular pointer.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ehlers, Rick
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


Rocky,

 I use

	DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
 and
      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends

to change the pointer. Is this what you are thinking of?


Rick Ehlers



From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul 26 10:21:42 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:21:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Conversion to Express
Message-ID: <20050726152145.LCSW14543.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

I'm interested in published or personal experience with converting Access to
the new SQL Server Express beta. Right now, with its lack of tools, I doubt
there's much on the subject. If you run across anything, you might remember
me with a quick link. Thanks!
 
Susan H. 


From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jul 26 10:28:31 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:28:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F137772D3@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

OK. I got it, this time using the API route. Put this code in a module...

Public Const HandCursor = 32649&

Declare Function LoadCursorBynum Lib "user32" Alias "LoadCursorA" _
 (ByVal hInstance As Long, ByVal lpCursorName As Long) As Long

Declare Function SetCursor Lib "user32" (ByVal hCursor As Long) As Long

Function MouseCursor(CursorType As Long)
Dim lngRet As Long
    lngRet = LoadCursorBynum(0&, CursorType)
    lngRet = SetCursor(lngRet)
End Function

...Then all you need is a MouseMove event for the label which reads...

    MouseCursor HandCursor

Access will automatically restore the default cursor when you move out of
the label's area.

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin -
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


Rick:

I was looking for that snip that changes the muse pointer into a hand.  I've

got labels on the main form with OnClick events instead of command buttons 
(which are clunky looking).  I've also got a mouse move event for each one 
already which displays a bit of description of the label's function.

Now, in that mouse move event, I'd like to change the pointer to a hand as a

visual cue that the label is a clickable link of some sort.  I'm gilding the

lily here a bit, but it's a consumer product, not a commercial application, 
so it wants a bit of sizzle.

I did this before and it worked real well.  I just can't remember the app I 
built it into so I can't find it again.

Thanks and regards,

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ehlers, Rick" <Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


> Rocky,
>
> I use
>
> DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
> and
>      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends
>
> to change the pointer. Is this what you are thinking of?
>
>
> Rick Ehlers
>  Power Services
>  Performance And Valuation
>  Annex - EX510
>  Phone: (513) 287-2047
>  Fax: (513) 287-3698
>  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky 
> Smolin
> - Beach Access Software
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:04 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
>
> Dear List:
>
> Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some code to turn the 
> mouse pointer into the hand which now indicated you're hovering over a 
> link, and I used it in the mouse move event of a label which had it's 
> own click event.
>
> But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?  It was, IIRC, only 
> 2-3 lines of code.
>
> MTIA,
>
> Rocky
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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 26 10:43:45 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:43:45 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
In-Reply-To: <53c8e05a05072608123c2aad6c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F3780C9C52E62A7279B13B89ACD0@phx.gbl>

Thanks Josh!



Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Jul 26 10:47:43 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:47:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCCC@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Is Google down all over the country?  This is like killing Kenny (South
Park).  What the....  no way.


From mikedorism at verizon.net  Tue Jul 26 10:51:57 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:51:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCCC@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <000d01c591f9$f5323640$2e01a8c0@dorismanning>

It is working fine for me.

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT

Is Google down all over the country?  This is like killing Kenny (South
Park).  What the....  no way.
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From Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com  Tue Jul 26 10:51:07 2005
From: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com (Ehlers, Rick)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:51:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT
Message-ID: <A49154D170A54C42BCA71C9770A931E7010DDCF2@excincymb02.cinergy.com>

Mine works. 


Rick Ehlers
  Power Services
  Performance And Valuation
  Annex - EX510
  Phone: (513) 287-2047
  Fax: (513) 287-3698
  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nicholson,
Karen
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT

Is Google down all over the country?  This is like killing Kenny (South
Park).  What the....  no way.
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From carbonnb at gmail.com  Tue Jul 26 10:51:31 2005
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:51:31 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT
In-Reply-To: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCCC@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCCC@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <e04a6c9205072608512c33805b@mail.gmail.com>

On 26/07/05, Nicholson, Karen <cyx5 at cdc.gov> wrote:
> Is Google down all over the country?  This is like killing Kenny (South
> Park).  What the....  no way.

I can get to and search with both Google.com and google.ca with no problems.

-- 
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Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well
preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
shouting "What a great ride!"


From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Jul 26 10:54:55 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:54:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCCD@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

Must just be us.  I am putting in a call to our Help Desk in Atlanta. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT

On 26/07/05, Nicholson, Karen <cyx5 at cdc.gov> wrote:
> Is Google down all over the country?  This is like killing Kenny 
> (South Park).  What the....  no way.

I can get to and search with both Google.com and google.ca with no
problems.

--
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Tue Jul 26 11:00:14 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:00:14 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCCE@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

It is the government.  The poor IT guy in Atlanta is getting flooded
with calls.  This IT department is by far the best, most efficient,
responsive and polite team I have ever had the pleasure to work with.
They kick butt.  I am sure they will solve the problem.  I was just in
utter shock. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ehlers, Rick
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT

Mine works. 


Rick Ehlers
  Power Services
  Performance And Valuation
  Annex - EX510
  Phone: (513) 287-2047
  Fax: (513) 287-3698
  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com

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Karen
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:48 AM
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Is Google down all over the country?  This is like killing Kenny (South
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From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Tue Jul 26 11:57:58 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David Mcafee)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:57:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
In-Reply-To: <00c001c591f2$24264c50$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <20050726165758.5801.qmail@web80801.mail.yahoo.com>

Rocky, I think it was my "main menu" smaple that I
sent you. I think I still have a copy. Let me look. If
I have it, I'll send it to you off the list.

David McAfee

--- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
<bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:

> Rick:
> 
> I was looking for that snip that changes the muse
> pointer into a hand.  I've 
> got labels on the main form with OnClick events
> instead of command buttons 
> (which are clunky looking).  I've also got a mouse
> move event for each one 
> already which displays a bit of description of the
> label's function.
> 
> Now, in that mouse move event, I'd like to change
> the pointer to a hand as a 
> visual cue that the label is a clickable link of
> some sort.  I'm gilding the 
> lily here a bit, but it's a consumer product, not a
> commercial application, 
> so it wants a bit of sizzle.
> 
> I did this before and it worked real well.  I just
> can't remember the app I 
> built it into so I can't find it again.
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Rocky
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ehlers, Rick" <Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:17 AM
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
> 
> 
> > Rocky,
> >
> > I use
> >
> > DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
> > and
> >      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends
> >
> > to change the pointer. Is this what you are
> thinking of?
> >
> >
> > Rick Ehlers
> >  Power Services
> >  Performance And Valuation
> >  Annex - EX510
> >  Phone: (513) 287-2047
> >  Fax: (513) 287-3698
> >  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> > - Beach Access Software
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:04 AM
> > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
> >
> > Dear List:
> >
> > Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me some
> code to turn the mouse
> > pointer into the hand which now indicated you're
> hovering over a link,
> > and I used it in the mouse move event of a label
> which had it's own
> > click event.
> >
> > But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that? 
> It was, IIRC, only 2-3
> > lines of code.
> >
> > MTIA,
> >
> > Rocky
> > --
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From Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com  Tue Jul 26 12:00:18 2005
From: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com (Ehlers, Rick)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:00:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <A49154D170A54C42BCA71C9770A931E7010DDD4B@excincymb02.cinergy.com>

Lambert,

 Do you have other cursor listings or tell me where to find them? This
is cool. Now I've got about 10 apps to update. That should keep me busy
for a while ;-)

 Thanks.


Rick Ehlers
  Power Services
  Performance And Valuation
  Annex - EX510
  Phone: (513) 287-2047
  Fax: (513) 287-3698
  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand

OK. I got it, this time using the API route. Put this code in a
module...

Public Const HandCursor = 32649&

Declare Function LoadCursorBynum Lib "user32" Alias "LoadCursorA" _
(ByVal hInstance As Long, ByVal lpCursorName As Long) As Long

Declare Function SetCursor Lib "user32" (ByVal hCursor As Long) As Long

Function MouseCursor(CursorType As Long) Dim lngRet As Long
    lngRet = LoadCursorBynum(0&, CursorType)
    lngRet = SetCursor(lngRet)
End Function

...Then all you need is a MouseMove event for the label which reads...

    MouseCursor HandCursor

Access will automatically restore the default cursor when you move out
of the label's area.

Lambert


From dmcafee at pacbell.net  Tue Jul 26 12:03:10 2005
From: dmcafee at pacbell.net (David Mcafee)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:03:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
In-Reply-To: <20050726165758.5801.qmail@web80801.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050726170310.7138.qmail@web80801.mail.yahoo.com>

found it, sent it

--- David Mcafee <dmcafee at pacbell.net> wrote:

> Rocky, I think it was my "main menu" smaple that I
> sent you. I think I still have a copy. Let me look.
> If
> I have it, I'll send it to you off the list.
> 
> David McAfee
> 
> --- Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software
> <bchacc at san.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> > Rick:
> > 
> > I was looking for that snip that changes the muse
> > pointer into a hand.  I've 
> > got labels on the main form with OnClick events
> > instead of command buttons 
> > (which are clunky looking).  I've also got a mouse
> > move event for each one 
> > already which displays a bit of description of the
> > label's function.
> > 
> > Now, in that mouse move event, I'd like to change
> > the pointer to a hand as a 
> > visual cue that the label is a clickable link of
> > some sort.  I'm gilding the 
> > lily here a bit, but it's a consumer product, not
> a
> > commercial application, 
> > so it wants a bit of sizzle.
> > 
> > I did this before and it worked real well.  I just
> > can't remember the app I 
> > built it into so I can't find it again.
> > 
> > Thanks and regards,
> > 
> > Rocky
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Ehlers, Rick" <Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem
> > solving" 
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:17 AM
> > Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
> > 
> > 
> > > Rocky,
> > >
> > > I use
> > >
> > > DoCmd.Hourglass True before the code starts
> > > and
> > >      DoCmd.Hourglass False after the code ends
> > >
> > > to change the pointer. Is this what you are
> > thinking of?
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick Ehlers
> > >  Power Services
> > >  Performance And Valuation
> > >  Annex - EX510
> > >  Phone: (513) 287-2047
> > >  Fax: (513) 287-3698
> > >  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On
> > Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> > > - Beach Access Software
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:04 AM
> > > To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
> > >
> > > Dear List:
> > >
> > > Many moons ago I someone on the list gave me
> some
> > code to turn the mouse
> > > pointer into the hand which now indicated you're
> > hovering over a link,
> > > and I used it in the mouse move event of a label
> > which had it's own
> > > click event.
> > >
> > > But I can't find it.  Does anyone remember that?
> 
> > It was, IIRC, only 2-3
> > > lines of code.
> > >
> > > MTIA,
> > >
> > > Rocky
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> >
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jul 26 12:17:43 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:17:43 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
References: <28960735.1122390295037.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
	<53c8e05a05072608123c2aad6c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010c01c59205$ef560150$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

I store the state each time they start the system.  If the system date is 
ever earlier than the last time they started it (indicating that they moved 
the system date back to try to get a few more days' use) I give them a 
message that says they need to adjust the clock in the computer and quit the 
app.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Josh McFarlane" <darsant at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days


> On 7/26/05, paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> wrote:
>> What I tend to do is when they first open the application, store the 
>> system date and calculate 30 days in advance and also store this, then 
>> you just check the stored date which is 30 days in advance each time they 
>> open the app, if you check a stored date against system date, they can 
>> always keep changing the date on their machine can't they ?
>>
>> Paul Hartland
>
> The optimum solution I can think of is to have the two fields you
> mentioned, and use them as sort of a between statement in which it can
> run. First time the program opens, it sets both dates.
>
> Next time the user opens the application, first it checks to make sure
> the current date is between those dates, and if it is, it updates the
> current system date with the new value. This way, the date window that
> the program can be opened in slowly expires as time progresses.
>
> If the user sets their computer to day X  time Y after they got the
> App but before their last use time,  the start time is already after
> the current time, and the program cannot open.
>
> -- 
> Josh McFarlane
> "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."
> -Albert Einstein
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Jul 26 12:19:21 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:19:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F1377733F@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

I found this listing of constants on the Access Web
(http://www.mvps.org/access/api/api0044.htm)

Public Const IDC_APPSTARTING = 32650&
Public Const IDC_HAND = 32649&
Public Const IDC_ARROW = 32512&
Public Const IDC_CROSS = 32515&
Public Const IDC_IBEAM = 32513&
Public Const IDC_ICON = 32641&
Public Const IDC_NO = 32648&
Public Const IDC_SIZE = 32640&
Public Const IDC_SIZEALL = 32646&
Public Const IDC_SIZENESW = 32643&
Public Const IDC_SIZENS = 32645&
Public Const IDC_SIZENWSE = 32642&
Public Const IDC_SIZEWE = 32644&
Public Const IDC_UPARROW = 32516&
Public Const IDC_WAIT = 32514&


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ehlers, Rick
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:00 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand


Lambert,

 Do you have other cursor listings or tell me where to find them? This is
cool. Now I've got about 10 apps to update. That should keep me busy for a
while ;-)

 Thanks.


Rick Ehlers
  Power Services
  Performance And Valuation
  Annex - EX510
  Phone: (513) 287-2047
  Fax: (513) 287-3698
  EMail: Rick.Ehlers at cinergy.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: 'Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Turn Mouse Pointer to Hand

OK. I got it, this time using the API route. Put this code in a module...

Public Const HandCursor = 32649&

Declare Function LoadCursorBynum Lib "user32" Alias "LoadCursorA" _ (ByVal
hInstance As Long, ByVal lpCursorName As Long) As Long

Declare Function SetCursor Lib "user32" (ByVal hCursor As Long) As Long

Function MouseCursor(CursorType As Long) Dim lngRet As Long
    lngRet = LoadCursorBynum(0&, CursorType)
    lngRet = SetCursor(lngRet)
End Function

...Then all you need is a MouseMove event for the label which reads...

    MouseCursor HandCursor

Access will automatically restore the default cursor when you move out of
the label's area.

Lambert
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From bchacc at san.rr.com  Tue Jul 26 13:01:21 2005
From: bchacc at san.rr.com (Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:01:21 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
References: <28960735.1122390295037.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003>
	<53c8e05a05072608123c2aad6c@mail.gmail.com>
	<010c01c59205$ef560150$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>
Message-ID: <01de01c5920c$0812f490$6a01a8c0@HAL9004>

The date.  I store the date, not the state.  The date.

Rocky

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software" <bchacc at san.rr.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days


>I store the state each time they start the system.  If the system date is 
>ever earlier than the last time they started it (indicating that they moved 
>the system date back to try to get a few more days' use) I give them a 
>message that says they need to adjust the clock in the computer and quit 
>the app.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Josh McFarlane" <darsant at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
>
>
>> On 7/26/05, paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> wrote:
>>> What I tend to do is when they first open the application, store the 
>>> system date and calculate 30 days in advance and also store this, then 
>>> you just check the stored date which is 30 days in advance each time 
>>> they open the app, if you check a stored date against system date, they 
>>> can always keep changing the date on their machine can't they ?
>>>
>>> Paul Hartland
>>
>> The optimum solution I can think of is to have the two fields you
>> mentioned, and use them as sort of a between statement in which it can
>> run. First time the program opens, it sets both dates.
>>
>> Next time the user opens the application, first it checks to make sure
>> the current date is between those dates, and if it is, it updates the
>> current system date with the new value. This way, the date window that
>> the program can be opened in slowly expires as time progresses.
>>
>> If the user sets their computer to day X  time Y after they got the
>> App but before their last use time,  the start time is already after
>> the current time, and the program cannot open.
>>
>> -- 
>> Josh McFarlane
>> "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by 
>> understanding."
>> -Albert Einstein
>> -- 
>> AccessD mailing list
>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Jul 26 13:06:00 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:06:00 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Google is Down???? - OT
References: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCCC@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>
Message-ID: <42E67B88.8000703@shaw.ca>

Your ISP could have problems with DNS server or DNS Cache poisoning
Try going to the google IP numeric address directly skipping DNS, This 
address may change.
http://64.233.167.147/

You can track the ip address down from sites like http://www.dnsstuff.com
you may have to use their route search via their copy of tracecrt.

Nicholson, Karen wrote:

>Is Google down all over the country?  This is like killing Kenny (South
>Park).  What the....  no way.
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Tue Jul 26 13:43:41 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:43:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Conversion to Express
References: <20050726152145.LCSW14543.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>
Message-ID: <42E6845D.7090007@shaw.ca>

Not too much on actual conversion but maybe something here in these MS 
and MSDN blogs
although lots on actual connection of the Access and Express.
 A lot of these sites do not appear to be open to Google or other search 
engines.

FAQ: How to connect to SQL Express from "downlevel clients"(Access 2003, 
VS 2003, VB 6, etc
 http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2004/07/23/192044.aspx

You will find this EM tool helpful for conversion of Access (released 
last month).

Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Manager - Community Technology Preview 
June 2005
(New replacement for SQL Enterprise Manager)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=C7A5CC62-EC54-4299-85FC-BA05C181ED55&displaylang=en

Visual Studio Express Editions  MSDN forums
http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=24

Securing Your SQL Server 2005 Express Edition Server
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsse/html/ssesecurity.asp

Connecting Access and SQL Express 2005
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/

SMO Replaces SQL-DMO
http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/40993/40993.html?Ad=1

Silly Billy's have turned of search function for upgrades to this newsgroup

microsoft.private.sqlserver2005.express
http://communities.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.asp?icp=sqlserver2005&slcid=us

One interesting post on this newsgroup
Just in passing concerning future design
about ADP's from Access 2003 on down that will not play fair with SQL 
Server 2005 Express (replacement for MSDE).

Re: Access 2002 and SQL Express
From:  "Mary Chipman [MSFT]" <mchip at online.microsoft.com> Sent:  
8/20/2004 11:30:58 AM

You will not be able to use any of the designers with SQLS 2005
databases, whether it's SQL Express or the Developer edition. IOW, you
won't be able to create databases, tables, views or any other database
objects from an ADP. The only support that is envisioned is that you
will be able to connect an Access front-end to a SQLS 2005 back end if
it is running in SQLS 2000 compatibility mode, so your forms, reports
and other local Access objects should still run. There is no service
pack or quick fix being planned as far as I know because of the amount
of work it would entail. If you stop to think about it, it's pretty
hard to see how accomodating new Yukon features like CLR assemblies
and complex data types in the ADP designers could be achieved without
a complete rewrite.

--Mary Chipman

The problem has been know about for some time. SQL Server 2005 is a 
major rewrite and at the time they began development they decided they 
would not provide access to its features from Access and ADPs mainly 
becasue they view Access as a power user application - STILL. Lot of 
.NET stuff built into SQLS erver 2005 and they figured it wasnt worth 
the cost or effort to rewrite the ADP functionality in Access to deal 
with this.



Susan Harkins wrote:

>I'm interested in published or personal experience with converting Access to
>the new SQL Server Express beta. Right now, with its lack of tools, I doubt
>there's much on the subject. If you run across anything, you might remember
>me with a quick link. Thanks!
> 
>Susan H. 
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





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Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:46:11 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
Message-ID: <46B976F2B698FF46A4FE7636509B22DF1B5D75@stekelbes.ithelps.local>

Hi group
 
Can someone advise me some ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software that
connects with an MDB or SQL server?
-by preferation free software or at low price (Source included)
-supports multilanguage 
 
 
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From ssharkins at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul 26 15:32:59 2005
From: ssharkins at bellsouth.net (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:32:59 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Conversion to Express
In-Reply-To: <42E6845D.7090007@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <20050726203320.QARV14543.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@SUSANONE>

Thanks Marty -- I'll take a look!

Susan H. 

Not too much on actual conversion but maybe something here in these MS and
MSDN blogs although lots on actual connection of the Access and Express.
 A lot of these sites do not appear to be open to Google or other search
engines.

FAQ: How to connect to SQL Express from "downlevel clients"(Access 2003, VS
2003, VB 6, etc
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/archive/2004/07/23/192044.aspx

You will find this EM tool helpful for conversion of Access (released last
month).

Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Manager - Community Technology Preview
June 2005 (New replacement for SQL Enterprise Manager)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=C7A5CC62-EC54-4299-
85FC-BA05C181ED55&displaylang=en

Visual Studio Express Editions  MSDN forums
http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=24

Securing Your SQL Server 2005 Express Edition Server
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnsse/html/
ssesecurity.asp

Connecting Access and SQL Express 2005
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlexpress/

SMO Replaces SQL-DMO
http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/40993/40993.html?Ad=1

Silly Billy's have turned of search function for upgrades to this newsgroup

microsoft.private.sqlserver2005.express
http://communities.microsoft.com/newsgroups/default.asp?icp=sqlserver2005&sl
cid=us

One interesting post on this newsgroup
Just in passing concerning future design about ADP's from Access 2003 on
down that will not play fair with SQL Server 2005 Express (replacement for
MSDE).

Re: Access 2002 and SQL Express
From:  "Mary Chipman [MSFT]" <mchip at online.microsoft.com> Sent:  
8/20/2004 11:30:58 AM

You will not be able to use any of the designers with SQLS 2005 databases,
whether it's SQL Express or the Developer edition. IOW, you won't be able to
create databases, tables, views or any other database objects from an ADP.
The only support that is envisioned is that you will be able to connect an
Access front-end to a SQLS 2005 back end if it is running in SQLS 2000
compatibility mode, so your forms, reports and other local Access objects
should still run. There is no service pack or quick fix being planned as far
as I know because of the amount of work it would entail. If you stop to
think about it, it's pretty hard to see how accomodating new Yukon features
like CLR assemblies and complex data types in the ADP designers could be
achieved without a complete rewrite.

--Mary Chipman

The problem has been know about for some time. SQL Server 2005 is a major
rewrite and at the time they began development they decided they would not
provide access to its features from Access and ADPs mainly becasue they view
Access as a power user application - STILL. Lot of .NET stuff built into
SQLS erver 2005 and they figured it wasnt worth the cost or effort to
rewrite the ADP functionality in Access to deal with this.



Susan Harkins wrote:

>I'm interested in published or personal experience with converting 
>Access to the new SQL Server Express beta. Right now, with its lack of 
>tools, I doubt there's much on the subject. If you run across anything, 
>you might remember me with a quick link. Thanks!
> 
>Susan H. 
>  
>

--
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada



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From Jeff at outbaktech.com  Tue Jul 26 15:58:48 2005
From: Jeff at outbaktech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:58:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Cross Posted:  Looking for a .NET developer near Neenah,
	WI
Message-ID: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D0D9137@belgarion.Outbak.local>

Anybody looking for a .NET contract (12 months +)?????
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com


From kimjwiggins at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 26 16:16:47 2005
From: kimjwiggins at yahoo.com (Kim Wiggins)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:16:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Problem with bookmarks in automation
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c9205072605011e40d3ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050726211647.64170.qmail@web53601.mail.yahoo.com>

Bryan, thanks but I found the problem.  It was odd quotes that I had around the bookmark that was causing it not to recognize the bookmark.  I have corrected it and it works.  Thanks

Bryan Carbonnell <carbonnb at gmail.com> wrote:On 25/07/05, Kim Wiggins wrote:

> I am really trying to make this word Automation work. I am using VB to write the code but it will not recognize the bookmarks. It opens the document and everything like it should but it will not recognize the book mark. The error I get is this:
> 
> the requested member of the collection does not exist
> 
> It bombs out at the green highlighted code and I can't understand why. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Formatting doesn't come through to the list.

Which line is causing the problem? This one?

> objWD.ActiveDocument.Bookmarks.Item("AT").Range.Text = frmAircraftWO.txtAircraftType

If so, is AT the name of a bookmark in the main body of the document?
Or is it in a header or footer?

Are you sure the active document the one referenceced in the variable doc?

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Tue Jul 26 19:57:14 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:57:14 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
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...hhmmm....thinking over the pros and cons.....I am getting very tired of clients changing office versions etc etc and having the app crash. 

And I am getting very sick of setting refs and finding that some users end up with it missing - whoops - crash again. So runtime should solve both those issues?

On the other hand, with my main client (using full Access install) I can get straight on to their PC online using VNC, make a change to the mdb, recreate the mde and post it to the network from where it gets automatically downloaded the next time all users open it.

That would be much harder with runtime, wouldn't it? How do you distribute upgrades?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..yes ...lessons learned the hard way ...give a client full Access and 
  "things" happen ...bad things ..."upgrade" that client to the newest version 
  of Office Standard (w/runtime) rather than Office Pro and save them a lot of 
  money ...its amazing how many strange happenings stop happening to your apps 
  :(

  William

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  <<how does anyone that actually supports distributed
  Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having full
  Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve first

  William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: William Hindman
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing around
    VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name is
    similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports 
  cleanly,
    at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

    ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports distributed
    Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having 
  full
    Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve 
  first
    :(

    William

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
    To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
    <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
    Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    > William,
    >
    > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in the
    > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes.  The
    > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the controls, 
  the
    > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual
    > Studio.
    >
    > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have 
  never
    > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even 
  purchased
    > it
    > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is very
    > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
    >
    > John W. Colby
    > www.ColbyConsulting.com
    >
    > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
    > http://folding.stanford.edu/
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William 
  Hindman
    > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
    > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
    >
    >
    > JC
    >
    > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio
    > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of VB.net 
  in
    > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the
    > VBExpress route instead?
    >
    > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
    >
    > William
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
    > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
    > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
    > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
    > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
    >
    >
    >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
    >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE
    >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels
    >> almost identical to the
    >> Visual Studio however.
    >>
    >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
    >>
    >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
    >> available.
    >> I
    >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
    >> videos
    >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they 
  would
    >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty 
  quickly,
    >> and
    >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will show
    >> you
    >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so 
  far)
    >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
    >>
    >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
    >> video series right now.
    >>
    >> John W. Colby
    >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
    >>
    >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
    >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
    >>
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From Jeff at outbaktech.com  Tue Jul 26 21:27:15 2005
From: Jeff at outbaktech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:27:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: [dba-OT] Cross Posted: Looking for a .NET developer
	near Neenah, WI
Message-ID: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D014B44@belgarion.Outbak.local>

Sorry, I should have been more specific.

I was contacted by a recruiter who is looking for a .NET developer
looking for a long term contract in Neenah, WI.  The company is looking
for 10 years experience in IT and at least 2 years experience with .NET.
I was told that they are willing to relax their requirements a little
for a 'local boy (or girl).

If anyone is interested, please contact me off-list and I will send
additional information, including the recruiters name and contact
information.

Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:59 PM
To: dba-OT; Dba-Tech; dba-VB; AccessD
Subject: [dba-OT] Cross Posted: Looking for a .NET developer near
Neenah, WI

Anybody looking for a .NET contract (12 months +)?????
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
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From vrm at tim-cms.com  Wed Jul 27 01:58:51 2005
From: vrm at tim-cms.com (| Marcel Vreuls)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:58:51 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
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Message-ID: <003001c59278$a5319cb0$6c61fea9@GALAXY.local>

Hi Erwin,

I have a ASP.NET and VB.NET ecommerce store with support multilanguage and
is skinnalbe. After a year of development I am selling it for about 5 months
now. Take a look at the store where are building right now
http://topparts.7host.com . In most cases i do not sell the source because i
invested a lot of time in it. I have two companies in holland who would like
to have the source also and we come to an agreement about it. My main
concern is that my customers are going to resell the software so this is
what i would like to prevent. Just let me know what you think about it

Marcel 

(ps. as i live in holland you can contact me offline in dutch if that is
easier for you (vrm at tim-cms.com). 

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Sent: dinsdag 26 juli 2005 21:46
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software


Hi group
 
Can someone advise me some ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software that
connects with an MDB or SQL server?
-by preferation free software or at low price (Source included)
-supports multilanguage 
 
 
thx
 

 

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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Wed Jul 27 01:58:05 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:28:05 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Find a record in table with intervals
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Message-ID: <00a201c59278$b54a1870$431865cb@winxp>

Chester,

    Sample query given below should get you the latest prevailing value on a given date. 

    T_PriceIndex is the master table showing the price on different dates, while T_PriceCurrent is the table having dates for which the latest prevailing price is required.

    For each date in table T_PriceCurrent, calculated field named PriceCurrent in the sample query gives the latest prevailing price (as collected from T_PriceIndex).

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------

===================================
SELECT T_PriceCurrent.SDate, (Select Price From T_PriceIndex As T1 Where T1.SDate = (Select Max(SDate) From T_PriceIndex As T2 Where T2.SDate <= T_PriceCurrent.SDate)) AS PriceCurrent 
FROM T_PriceCurrent;
===================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kaup, Chester 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 20:19
  Subject: [AccessD] FW: Find a record in table with intervals


  I have table (table1) with dates and a value associated with the date.

  For example 

  1/1/2001                  20

  7/13/2003                27

  12/26/2003              31

  6/4/2004                  33

  1/13/2005                40

  6/7/2005                  44 

  I have another table (table 2) with values in it also. Using the date in this table I need to find the value in table one that would be correct for that date. It is assumed the value in table one carries forward until the date changes. The value associated with the last date carries forward forever. 

  For example a date of 10/13/2004 should return a value of 33. I was able to achieve the desired result with several if then else and do loops but was hoping for a better solution. Was hoping for something like the vlookup function in Excel. 

  Thanks. 

  Chester Kaup
  Engineering Technician
  Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
  Office (432) 688-3797



From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 27 08:15:25 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:15:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Cross Posted: Looking for a .NET developer near Neenah,
	WI
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Message-ID: <BAY104-F2286932E56363CCD82DE289ACC0@phx.gbl>

Does it have to be local?




From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Jul 27 08:21:49 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:21:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Cross Posted: Looking for a .NET developer near Neenah,
	WI
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCE0@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

What type of .net?  vb.net, asp.net? 

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Reardon-Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:15 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-OT at databaseadvisors.com;
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Subject: RE: [AccessD] Cross Posted: Looking for a .NET developer near
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Does it have to be local?


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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jul 27 08:32:47 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:32:47 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
In-Reply-To: <003001c59278$a5319cb0$6c61fea9@GALAXY.local>
Message-ID: <200507271332.j6RDWsR14371@databaseadvisors.com>

My Dutch is pretty shaky (I know only about 5 words, of which my favourite
is the word for vacuum cleaner) so I will respond in English. In a situation
such as this (assuming the good intentions of the client), what the client
is primarily concerned about is what happens should you get run over by a
tram or meet some similar demise. What you are concerned about is protecting
your source code. To protect both parties, you place the source code in
escrow, which means in the hands of a disinterested party. Should the tram
kill you, the client gets the code. Should you avoid collisions with a tram,
your source code is safe.

Arthur

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of | Marcel Vreuls
Sent: July 27, 2005 2:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software

Hi Erwin,

I have a ASP.NET and VB.NET ecommerce store with support multilanguage and
is skinnalbe. After a year of development I am selling it for about 5 months
now. Take a look at the store where are building right now
http://topparts.7host.com . In most cases i do not sell the source because i
invested a lot of time in it. I have two companies in holland who would like
to have the source also and we come to an agreement about it. My main
concern is that my customers are going to resell the software so this is
what i would like to prevent. Just let me know what you think about it

Marcel 

(ps. as i live in holland you can contact me offline in dutch if that is
easier for you (vrm at tim-cms.com). 



From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Wed Jul 27 09:36:39 2005
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:36:39 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077801087D@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit




From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 27 10:00:17 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:00:17 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
In-Reply-To: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF486077801087D@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>
Message-ID: <0IKA0032HKCFJG@l-daemon>

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id number
and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually place the new
record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Wed Jul 27 10:06:31 2005
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:06:31 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF48607780579B605@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From ldoering at symphonyinfo.com  Wed Jul 27 10:20:22 2005
From: ldoering at symphonyinfo.com (Liz Doering)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:20:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <855499653F55AD4190B242717DF132BC082FD7@dewey.Symphony.local>

Mike,

I've worked around this by saving the record to actually generate the
ID, then querying on some other known parameters to retrieve it.  Then
you will get back the ID you are looking for.

If there is a better method, I would like to know!

Liz



 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Wed Jul 27 10:23:32 2005
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:23:32 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF48607780579B606@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

Yeah that wouldn't work for me, I really don't have any other parameter
that I could query on to get the ID.  There could be upwards of 10
people entering data at the same time and on the same person.

I hope someone has a way to do this.

Thanks, 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
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-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:ldoering at symphonyinfo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Mike,

I've worked around this by saving the record to actually generate the
ID, then querying on some other known parameters to retrieve it.  Then
you will get back the ID you are looking for.

If there is a better method, I would like to know!

Liz



 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
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From cyx5 at cdc.gov  Wed Jul 27 10:28:44 2005
From: cyx5 at cdc.gov (Nicholson, Karen)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:28:44 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <A5B5AA20555F594BA7B6BD2048E49E4376FCE8@m-niosh-5.niosh.cdc.gov>

I am doing the exact same thing right now.  What I have done is to put a
field on the form (and in its datasource) with a time stamp.  As it is
being written to the new table, I am taking that time stamp right along
with it.  Then I am returning that value to my form based on time =
time.  Does that make sense?  Once I get it coded, I will post it. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Yeah that wouldn't work for me, I really don't have any other parameter
that I could query on to get the ID.  There could be upwards of 10
people entering data at the same time and on the same person.

I hope someone has a way to do this.

Thanks, 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:ldoering at symphonyinfo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Mike,

I've worked around this by saving the record to actually generate the
ID, then querying on some other known parameters to retrieve it.  Then
you will get back the ID you are looking for.

If there is a better method, I would like to know!

Liz



 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 27 10:29:44 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:29:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B4B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Have you tried using an output parameter to return the identity value?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number


I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 27 10:34:42 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:34:42 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B4C@infoserver01.infostat.local>

I can't speak for anyone else, but for my personal projects, I just give
them a new front end for minor stuff.  Since my employer's product is
commercial, we either distribute a new CD or we put the latest installer
on our server for them to download.    The Wise installer is smart
enough to not install the runtime if it is already installed and
current.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


...hhmmm....thinking over the pros and cons.....I am getting very tired
of clients changing office versions etc etc and having the app crash. 

And I am getting very sick of setting refs and finding that some users
end up with it missing - whoops - crash again. So runtime should solve
both those issues?

On the other hand, with my main client (using full Access install) I can
get straight on to their PC online using VNC, make a change to the mdb,
recreate the mde and post it to the network from where it gets
automatically downloaded the next time all users open it.

That would be much harder with runtime, wouldn't it? How do you
distribute upgrades?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..yes ...lessons learned the hard way ...give a client full Access and

  "things" happen ...bad things ..."upgrade" that client to the newest
version 
  of Office Standard (w/runtime) rather than Office Pro and save them a
lot of 
  money ...its amazing how many strange happenings stop happening to
your apps 
  :(

  William

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  <<how does anyone that actually supports distributed
  Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having
full
  Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve
first

  William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: William Hindman
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing
around
    VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB
name is
    similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports 
  cleanly,
    at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

    ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports
distributed
    Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients
having 
  full
    Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather
starve 
  first
    :(

    William

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
    To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
    <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
    Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    > William,
    >
    > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes
in the
    > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly
yes.  The
    > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the
controls, 
  the
    > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in
Visual
    > Studio.
    >
    > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either
have 
  never
    > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even 
  purchased
    > it
    > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is
very
    > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
    >
    > John W. Colby
    > www.ColbyConsulting.com
    >
    > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
    > http://folding.stanford.edu/
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William

  Hindman
    > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
    > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
    >
    >
    > JC
    >
    > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual
Studio
    > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of
VB.net 
  in
    > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go
the
    > VBExpress route instead?
    >
    > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
    >
    > William
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
    > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
    > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
    > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
    > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
    >
    >
    >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
    >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own
IDE
    >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and
feels
    >> almost identical to the
    >> Visual Studio however.
    >>
    >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
    >>
    >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
    >> available.
    >> I
    >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done
(some)
    >> videos
    >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think
they 
  would
    >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty 
  quickly,
    >> and
    >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will
show
    >> you
    >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to
so 
  far)
    >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
    >>
    >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through
the
    >> video series right now.
    >>
    >> John W. Colby
    >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
    >>
    >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
    >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Wed Jul 27 10:34:54 2005
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:34:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF48607780579B607@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

Thanks Karen, I would like to look at that code to see if it would work
for me also.  It's going to be hard, with upwards of 10 people entering
data at the same time, it could be possible for two records to be
entered at the same time with the same time stamp. 


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-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Karen [mailto:cyx5 at cdc.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

I am doing the exact same thing right now.  What I have done is to put a
field on the form (and in its datasource) with a time stamp.  As it is
being written to the new table, I am taking that time stamp right along
with it.  Then I am returning that value to my form based on time =
time.  Does that make sense?  Once I get it coded, I will post it. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Yeah that wouldn't work for me, I really don't have any other parameter
that I could query on to get the ID.  There could be upwards of 10
people entering data at the same time and on the same person.

I hope someone has a way to do this.

Thanks, 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Liz Doering [mailto:ldoering at symphonyinfo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Mike,

I've worked around this by saving the record to actually generate the
ID, then querying on some other known parameters to retrieve it.  Then
you will get back the ID you are looking for.

If there is a better method, I would like to know!

Liz



 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us  Wed Jul 27 10:35:35 2005
From: Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us (Gowey Mike W)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:35:35 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <05EBB8A3BEB95B4F8216BE4EF48607780579B608@srciml1.ds.doc.state.or.us>

Charlotte,

How would I go about that? 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Have you tried using an output parameter to return the identity value?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number


I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 27 10:37:55 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:37:55 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B4E@infoserver01.infostat.local>

But it would be more interesting to see you try to compare the date to
the state, Rocky. ;-}

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Rocky Smolin - Beach Access Software [mailto:bchacc at san.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:01 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days


The date.  I store the date, not the state.  The date.

Rocky

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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days


>I store the state each time they start the system.  If the system date 
>is
>ever earlier than the last time they started it (indicating that they
moved 
>the system date back to try to get a few more days' use) I give them a 
>message that says they need to adjust the clock in the computer and
quit 
>the app.
>
> Rocky
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Josh McFarlane" <darsant at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
>
>
>> On 7/26/05, paul.hartland at fsmail.net <paul.hartland at fsmail.net> 
>> wrote:
>>> What I tend to do is when they first open the application, store the
>>> system date and calculate 30 days in advance and also store this,
then 
>>> you just check the stored date which is 30 days in advance each time

>>> they open the app, if you check a stored date against system date,
they 
>>> can always keep changing the date on their machine can't they ?
>>>
>>> Paul Hartland
>>
>> The optimum solution I can think of is to have the two fields you 
>> mentioned, and use them as sort of a between statement in which it 
>> can run. First time the program opens, it sets both dates.
>>
>> Next time the user opens the application, first it checks to make 
>> sure the current date is between those dates, and if it is, it 
>> updates the current system date with the new value. This way, the 
>> date window that the program can be opened in slowly expires as time 
>> progresses.
>>
>> If the user sets their computer to day X  time Y after they got the 
>> App but before their last use time,  the start time is already after 
>> the current time, and the program cannot open.
>>
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From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 27 10:38:11 2005
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:38:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Cross Posted: Looking for a .NET developer near Neenah,
	WI
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Message-ID: <20050727153811.13490.qmail@web50405.mail.yahoo.com>

I do vb.net programming and am in Hudson, WI.  Please contact me off line if I can be of any help.
 
dkalsow at yahoo.com

Julie Reardon-Taylor <prosoft6 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 27 10:44:44 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:44:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B4F@infoserver01.infostat.local>

In that case, you put a line control in the top, left and right borders
of the detail and you put another horizontal line at the top of a group
footer that exists only for that purpose.  You can also draw the lines
in code.

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Lonnie Johnson [mailto:prodevmg at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes


Thanks for responding.
 
If I use the rectangle I only get a box around the textboxes for that
line and then another box around the textboxes on the next row. 
 
If I have 10 lines of data, I want one box to show around these text
boxes for all ten rows. Sort of like a border for the entire page of
detail.
 
Thanks again.

Sad Der <accessd666 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Lonnie,

can give some more details?
So, you want to create a line around textboxes. Do you
want this for all rows?
If so, why not use a rectangle and set the visible
property to true or false?

SD

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> I wanted to put a box around the first 5 and another
> box (boarder) around the second 5? This box/border
> would expand the height of the detail section of
> each page.
> 
> I was thinking of the Me.Line method but don't know
> how to
> 
> 1) Just put it around certain boxes
> 
> 2) How to have more than one line method going on at
> once.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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From pjones at btl.net  Wed Jul 27 12:13:54 2005
From: pjones at btl.net (Paul M. Jones)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:13:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000
Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050727110543.02984a98@pop.btl.net>

I have an application initially written in Access 97 and then moved to 
2000.  It talks to a SQL Server 2000 database using tables linked through 
an ODBC driver.  Lately I have had several instances where I call a stored 
procedure to perform an operation but I don't receive a response from the 
SQL Server even though the operation was carried out successfully.  This 
leaves my application hanging.  I suspect it has to do with the ODBC 
connection.  Anybody has any experiences with this type of issue?

On a related note, is there a better way of linking my tables to the SQL 
Server other than to use an ODBC driver?  I have a couple of newer projects 
that use ADP but unfortunately, it's not an option for me at this point 
since I have too many queries that I'll need to convert to either stored 
procedures or views.

Thanks

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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Wed Jul 27 12:46:18 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:46:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337728@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

If you are basically selecting data for reporting you might switch to pass
through queries. This has worked well for me.
Jim Hale

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From: Paul M. Jones [mailto:pjones at btl.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:14 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000


I have an application initially written in Access 97 and then moved to 
2000.  It talks to a SQL Server 2000 database using tables linked through 
an ODBC driver.  Lately I have had several instances where I call a stored 
procedure to perform an operation but I don't receive a response from the 
SQL Server even though the operation was carried out successfully.  This 
leaves my application hanging.  I suspect it has to do with the ODBC 
connection.  Anybody has any experiences with this type of issue?

On a related note, is there a better way of linking my tables to the SQL 
Server other than to use an ODBC driver?  I have a couple of newer projects 
that use ADP but unfortunately, it's not an option for me at this point 
since I have too many queries that I'll need to convert to either stored 
procedures or views.

Thanks

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 27 13:17:18 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:17:18 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7B@ADGSERVER>

Hey,

Our clients use our system on a network where each user has a FE against the
BE on the server.  While the app was originally written to all be on the
local pc, it has migrated to the server.  Usually all goes well.

Well, this one client has some weird happenings going on.  One user will be
in the database in any given form.  Another user cannot get access to the BE
until the 1st user exits the form they were in.  The first thing the app
does is to relink the tables to the last BE that was loaded.  It sounds like
there are some sort of issues with locking and the LDB file.  

Anyone have any pointers?

Thanks,
Bobby



From ebarro at afsweb.com  Wed Jul 27 13:19:13 2005
From: ebarro at afsweb.com (Eric Barro)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:19:13 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000
In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050727110543.02984a98@pop.btl.net>
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Paul,

Instead of linking why not pull down the information using
DoCmd.TransferDatabase?

I have this code on one of my apps.

DoCmd.DeleteObject acTable, "myaccesstablename"

DoCmd.TransferDatabase acImport "ODBC Database",
"ODBC;DSN=mydsnconnectionname;UID=myuserid;PWD=mypassword;Language=us_englis
h;" _
& "DATABASE=mysqldatabasename", acTable, "mysqltablename",
"myaccesstablename" 

ODBC by its very nature is slow and I've had the same issues before trying
to link SQL tables. This approach has solved that for me.

Eric

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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:14 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000

I have an application initially written in Access 97 and then moved to 2000.
It talks to a SQL Server 2000 database using tables linked through an ODBC
driver.  Lately I have had several instances where I call a stored procedure
to perform an operation but I don't receive a response from the SQL Server
even though the operation was carried out successfully.  This leaves my
application hanging.  I suspect it has to do with the ODBC connection.
Anybody has any experiences with this type of issue?

On a related note, is there a better way of linking my tables to the SQL
Server other than to use an ODBC driver?  I have a couple of newer projects
that use ADP but unfortunately, it's not an option for me at this point
since I have too many queries that I'll need to convert to either stored
procedures or views.

Thanks

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Wed Jul 27 13:39:49 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:39:49 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F137776BB@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Just a thought: if it really is related to the re-linking process, then why
not have the app. simply check the links, and only do a re-link if needed?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question


Hey,

Our clients use our system on a network where each user has a FE against the
BE on the server.  While the app was originally written to all be on the
local pc, it has migrated to the server.  Usually all goes well.

Well, this one client has some weird happenings going on.  One user will be
in the database in any given form.  Another user cannot get access to the BE
until the 1st user exits the form they were in.  The first thing the app
does is to relink the tables to the last BE that was loaded.  It sounds like
there are some sort of issues with locking and the LDB file.  

Anyone have any pointers?

Thanks,
Bobby

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From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 13:44:50 2005
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:44:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7B@ADGSERVER>
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7B@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <aea6c495050727114576b2dbdb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bobby,

The users need to have File Creation rights in the folder that the BE
database lives in so the LDB file can be created. Is there an LDB file
being created for the BE when the first user is in there? I think with
one user it will allow access without being able to create the LDB
file but will lock out the second user? I could be out in left field
wandering in my own dream world too of course. I do know that users of
our Access databases need full file creation, change and deletion
rights in the folder or else it doesn't work.

On 7/27/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Our clients use our system on a network where each user has a FE against the
> BE on the server.  While the app was originally written to all be on the
> local pc, it has migrated to the server.  Usually all goes well.
> 
> Well, this one client has some weird happenings going on.  One user will be
> in the database in any given form.  Another user cannot get access to the BE
> until the 1st user exits the form they were in.  The first thing the app
> does is to relink the tables to the last BE that was loaded.  It sounds like
> there are some sort of issues with locking and the LDB file.
> 
> Anyone have any pointers?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bobby
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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 27 14:05:57 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:05:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C381CA@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7D@ADGSERVER>

It turns out that there is not a real problem other than the users are being
impatient.  The app has gotten bloated over time and needs to be rewritten
with SQL server, but the client does not want to do that yet.

The app is a little slow loading, especially on the network they are on.
They are having network problems which is slowing the app way down.  On my
slow machine (700Mhz PIII), it takes about 2 seconds to load the database
from a local drive.  It is taking them about 1-1.5 minutes to load.

As for the question about relinking at startup, we tried not relinking
before.  But there always seemed to be issues with that.  So it was decided
to just relink each time.

Thanks for the replies,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Locking question


Just a thought: if it really is related to the re-linking process, then why
not have the app. simply check the links, and only do a re-link if needed?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question


Hey,

Our clients use our system on a network where each user has a FE against the
BE on the server.  While the app was originally written to all be on the
local pc, it has migrated to the server.  Usually all goes well.

Well, this one client has some weird happenings going on.  One user will be
in the database in any given form.  Another user cannot get access to the BE
until the 1st user exits the form they were in.  The first thing the app
does is to relink the tables to the last BE that was loaded.  It sounds like
there are some sort of issues with locking and the LDB file.  

Anyone have any pointers?

Thanks,
Bobby




From pjones at btl.net  Wed Jul 27 14:01:47 2005
From: pjones at btl.net (Paul M. Jones)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:01:47 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000
In-Reply-To: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337728@corp-es01.fleetprid e.com>
References: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB6772337728@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050727125959.02a6f850@pop.btl.net>

Actually, I'm performing the full range of a normal application, including 
data entry, reporting, and calling stored procedures to execute specialized 
business logic.

Paul M. Jones
At 11:46 AM 7/27/2005, you wrote:
>If you are basically selecting data for reporting you might switch to pass
>through queries. This has worked well for me.
>Jim Hale

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From darsant at gmail.com  Wed Jul 27 14:21:17 2005
From: darsant at gmail.com (Josh McFarlane)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:21:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7D@ADGSERVER>
References: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C381CA@ADGSERVER>
	<916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7D@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <53c8e05a05072712213cd642d0@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/27/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:
> It turns out that there is not a real problem other than the users are being
> impatient.  The app has gotten bloated over time and needs to be rewritten
> with SQL server, but the client does not want to do that yet.
> 
> The app is a little slow loading, especially on the network they are on.
> They are having network problems which is slowing the app way down.  On my
> slow machine (700Mhz PIII), it takes about 2 seconds to load the database
> from a local drive.  It is taking them about 1-1.5 minutes to load.
> 
> As for the question about relinking at startup, we tried not relinking
> before.  But there always seemed to be issues with that.  So it was decided
> to just relink each time.
> 
> Thanks for the replies,
> Bobby

Ouch, how big is the database?

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Jul 27 14:33:45 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:33:45 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <10490719.1122491391198.JavaMail.root@sniper16>
Message-ID: <000701c592e2$1b595270$0518820a@danwaters>

Has the FE been decompiled/compiled and the BE compacted?  Perhaps the size
could be reduced . . .

Dan Waters

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Locking question

It turns out that there is not a real problem other than the users are being
impatient.  The app has gotten bloated over time and needs to be rewritten
with SQL server, but the client does not want to do that yet.

The app is a little slow loading, especially on the network they are on.
They are having network problems which is slowing the app way down.  On my
slow machine (700Mhz PIII), it takes about 2 seconds to load the database
from a local drive.  It is taking them about 1-1.5 minutes to load.

As for the question about relinking at startup, we tried not relinking
before.  But there always seemed to be issues with that.  So it was decided
to just relink each time.

Thanks for the replies,
Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:40 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Locking question


Just a thought: if it really is related to the re-linking process, then why
not have the app. simply check the links, and only do a re-link if needed?

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question


Hey,

Our clients use our system on a network where each user has a FE against the
BE on the server.  While the app was originally written to all be on the
local pc, it has migrated to the server.  Usually all goes well.

Well, this one client has some weird happenings going on.  One user will be
in the database in any given form.  Another user cannot get access to the BE
until the 1st user exits the form they were in.  The first thing the app
does is to relink the tables to the last BE that was loaded.  It sounds like
there are some sort of issues with locking and the LDB file.  

Anyone have any pointers?

Thanks,
Bobby


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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 27 14:37:29 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:37:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C381DB@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7E@ADGSERVER>

I'm not sure about their database.  It is our client's client.

Some of their clients have databases in the 80-100MB range.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Josh McFarlane
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking question


<snip>

Ouch, how big is the database?

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Wed Jul 27 14:41:43 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:41:43 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C381E3@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED7F@ADGSERVER>

The FE is an MDE.  The back end is compacted occasionally.

I think the real issue is their network problems.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Locking question


Has the FE been decompiled/compiled and the BE compacted?  Perhaps the size
could be reduced . . .

Dan Waters



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Jul 27 14:51:36 2005
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:51:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <18519772.1122493436943.JavaMail.root@sniper19>
Message-ID: <000201c592e4$996c0840$0518820a@danwaters>

Are you sure the FE was decompiled/compiled before it was converted to an
MDE?  Or since the code is 'removed' maybe that doesn't make a difference.

Dan Waters


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Locking question

The FE is an MDE.  The back end is compacted occasionally.

I think the real issue is their network problems.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Locking question


Has the FE been decompiled/compiled and the BE compacted?  Perhaps the size
could be reduced . . .

Dan Waters

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Jul 27 14:57:09 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:57:09 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A6A4@infoserver01.infostat.local>

SELECT @@IDENTITY FROM MyTable

IDENTITY maps to autonumber in Access

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number


Charlotte,

How would I go about that? 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Foust [mailto:cfoust at infostatsystems.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Have you tried using an output parameter to return the identity value?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number


I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gowey Mike W
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit


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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 27 15:57:36 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:57:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
References: <200507271332.j6RDWsR14371@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <42E7F540.6030202@shaw.ca>

Here is a US software escrow FAQ, Europe may differ on laws.
A local lawyer who practices IP Intellectual Property rights or 
copyright law.
or some banks in Europe used to provide this service alongside Financial 
Escrow.
might do it cheaper. But if you are putting out a lot of versions, the 
US price $500 - $750 sounds right
for a escrow company that does this on a daily basis.
http://www.softescrow.com/faq.html

Arthur Fuller wrote:

>My Dutch is pretty shaky (I know only about 5 words, of which my favourite
>is the word for vacuum cleaner) so I will respond in English. In a situation
>such as this (assuming the good intentions of the client), what the client
>is primarily concerned about is what happens should you get run over by a
>tram or meet some similar demise. What you are concerned about is protecting
>your source code. To protect both parties, you place the source code in
>escrow, which means in the hands of a disinterested party. Should the tram
>kill you, the client gets the code. Should you avoid collisions with a tram,
>your source code is safe.
>
>Arthur
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of | Marcel Vreuls
>Sent: July 27, 2005 2:59 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
>
>Hi Erwin,
>
>I have a ASP.NET and VB.NET ecommerce store with support multilanguage and
>is skinnalbe. After a year of development I am selling it for about 5 months
>now. Take a look at the store where are building right now
>http://topparts.7host.com . In most cases i do not sell the source because i
>invested a lot of time in it. I have two companies in holland who would like
>to have the source also and we come to an agreement about it. My main
>concern is that my customers are going to resell the software so this is
>what i would like to prevent. Just let me know what you think about it
>
>Marcel 
>
>(ps. as i live in holland you can contact me offline in dutch if that is
>easier for you (vrm at tim-cms.com). 
>
>  
>

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jul 27 18:09:04 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:09:04 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
References: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B4C@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <001e01c59300$30167b70$6601a8c0@user>

Ok - I'll look into that. Thanks Charlotte,

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Charlotte Foust 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:34 AM
  Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  I can't speak for anyone else, but for my personal projects, I just give
  them a new front end for minor stuff.  Since my employer's product is
  commercial, we either distribute a new CD or we put the latest installer
  on our server for them to download.    The Wise installer is smart
  enough to not install the runtime if it is already installed and
  current.

  Charlotte Foust


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Kath Pelletti [mailto:KP at sdsonline.net] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:57 PM
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ...hhmmm....thinking over the pros and cons.....I am getting very tired
  of clients changing office versions etc etc and having the app crash. 

  And I am getting very sick of setting refs and finding that some users
  end up with it missing - whoops - crash again. So runtime should solve
  both those issues?

  On the other hand, with my main client (using full Access install) I can
  get straight on to their PC online using VNC, make a change to the mdb,
  recreate the mde and post it to the network from where it gets
  automatically downloaded the next time all users open it.

  That would be much harder with runtime, wouldn't it? How do you
  distribute upgrades?

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: William Hindman 
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
    Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:15 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    ..yes ...lessons learned the hard way ...give a client full Access and

    "things" happen ...bad things ..."upgrade" that client to the newest
  version 
    of Office Standard (w/runtime) rather than Office Pro and save them a
  lot of 
    money ...its amazing how many strange happenings stop happening to
  your apps 
    :(

    William

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
    To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
    <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
    Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:58 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    <<how does anyone that actually supports distributed
    Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having
  full
    Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve
  first

    William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

    Kath
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: William Hindman
      To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
      Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
      Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


      ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing
  around
      VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB
  name is
      similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports 
    cleanly,
      at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

      ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports
  distributed
      Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients
  having 
    full
      Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather
  starve 
    first
      :(

      William

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
      To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
      <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
      Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
      Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


      > William,
      >
      > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes
  in the
      > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly
  yes.  The
      > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the
  controls, 
    the
      > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in
  Visual
      > Studio.
      >
      > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either
  have 
    never
      > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even 
    purchased
      > it
      > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is
  very
      > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
      >
      > John W. Colby
      > www.ColbyConsulting.com
      >
      > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
      > http://folding.stanford.edu/
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
      > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William

    Hindman
      > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
      > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
      > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
      >
      >
      > JC
      >
      > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual
  Studio
      > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of
  VB.net 
    in
      > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go
  the
      > VBExpress route instead?
      >
      > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
      >
      > William
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
      > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
      > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
      > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
      >
      >
      >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
      >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own
  IDE
      >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and
  feels
      >> almost identical to the
      >> Visual Studio however.
      >>
      >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
      >>
      >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
      >> available.
      >> I
      >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done
  (some)
      >> videos
      >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think
  they 
    would
      >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty 
    quickly,
      >> and
      >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will
  show
      >> you
      >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to
  so 
    far)
      >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
      >>
      >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through
  the
      >> video series right now.
      >>
      >> John W. Colby
      >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
      >>
      >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
      >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
      >>
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From itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 27 19:02:55 2005
From: itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:02:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem
Message-ID: <20050728000255.64512.qmail@web81503.mail.yahoo.com>

Let me try this again.  I just realized my original message never made it to the group.  Help?

Thanks,
Jeremy
 


Jeremy Toves <itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeremy Toves <itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Quitting Application Problem
To: AccessD <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>

I have a database that needs to complete a few processes before it is closed.  Some of the users are closing the application by using the "x" in the upper right corner of the Access database.  Is there a way to disable this?  Or can a message prompt the user to complete processing before exiting?  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeremy Toves
 


From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Jul 27 19:31:28 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:31:28 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364EE67@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

Hi Jeremy
There are a number of ways.
Here's one

Have a frm call it say...frmHidden
Have it open each time your app is started. Put it in an AutoExec Macro.
(Lemme know if you are unsure what an AutoExec Macro is) 

But have the macro open the form 'hidden' - IE not visible to anyone at
all.
In the On Unload or OnClose of that hidden form have something like...

If msgbox ("Are you sure you want to close Jeremy's way cool application
completely?",vbquestion + vbyesNo, "Confirm Application Close")=vbyes
then
	'User chose yes so let 'em quit
	'Put some code to here that allows them to exit gracefully
	'IE close other forms, close reports, stop any processes etc
	docmd.quit
Else
	'User Chose no -  so do nothing
End if

The way it works is...if the whole app is going to be closed then this
hidden form will be claosed also
Sparking the OnClose or OnUnload code thus allowing them to think about
closing completely or not
Via the message box that pops up

Hope this helps

Darren




-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

Let me try this again.  I just realized my original message never made
it to the group.  Help?

Thanks,
Jeremy
 


Jeremy Toves <itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeremy Toves <itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Quitting Application Problem
To: AccessD <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>

I have a database that needs to complete a few processes before it is
closed.  Some of the users are closing the application by using the "x"
in the upper right corner of the Access database.  Is there a way to
disable this?  Or can a message prompt the user to complete processing
before exiting?  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 27 19:33:41 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:33:41 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Jet 4 SP 8
References: <004801c590b7$f3c7ce20$6401a8c0@laptop1>
	<42E48B1A.4010808@shaw.ca> <42E50C72.3060606@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV38ED0E6682C8169403FDAAECF0@phx.gbl>

Joe

http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/Otherdownload.asp?SampleName='DetectAccessJet.zip'
..a module with functions to view the Access version, the Jet version, and 
the Jet SP
..seems it's derived from some of Marty's code :)

William

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
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Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Jet 4 SP 8


> This KB might be a bit clearer as it it shows how to identify the 
> mjset40.dll version number
> for the security patch that was added to Jet SP8 April 13, 2004
>
> How to obtain the latest service pack for the Microsoft Jet 4.0 Database 
> Engine
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239114/
>
>
> MartyConnelly wrote:
>
>> Here is the Jet SP-8 file manifest
>> Just check by right clicking your Dao360.dll  for property file version
>> should be at least Dao360.dll         3.60.8025.0     557,328 bytes
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=829558
>>
>> You can find again by hunting through general mdac portal for jet
>> http://www.microsoft.com/data
>>
>> Joe Hecht wrote:
>>
>>> I am reading an article online about Access security and it is talking 
>>> about
>>> sandbox mode. To get there you need to be using Jet 4 SP 8.
>>>
>>> I am running AXP on one machine and A2k3 on the other. How do I check 
>>> Jet
>>> Version and SP release.
>>>
>>> Here is the article link.
>>>
>>> http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC011461801033
>>>
>>> Joe Hecht
>>> Los Angeles CA
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> -- 
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> Victoria, B.C.
> Canada
>
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 27 19:40:46 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:40:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes
References: <20050726125206.56638.qmail@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV5B74C7D39360F19F8EB9BAECF0@phx.gbl>

http://www.lebans.com/Report.htm
..Steve has a couple of approaches to this with sample mdbs ...hth.

William
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From: "Lonnie Johnson" <prodevmg at yahoo.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How to draw a line around select textboxes


> Thanks for responding.
>
> If I use the rectangle I only get a box around the textboxes for that line 
> and then another box around the textboxes on the next row.
>
> If I have 10 lines of data, I want one box to show around these text boxes 
> for all ten rows. Sort of like a border for the entire page of detail.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Sad Der <accessd666 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Lonnie,
>
> can give some more details?
> So, you want to create a line around textboxes. Do you
> want this for all rows?
> If so, why not use a rectangle and set the visible
> property to true or false?
>
> SD
>
> --- Lonnie Johnson
> wrote:
>
>> I am sorry, this is on a report and not a form.
>>
>> Lonnie Johnson
> wrote:What if I
>> have 10 text boxes on a form all across in a row and
>> I wanted to put a box around the first 5 and another
>> box (boarder) around the second 5? This box/border
>> would expand the height of the detail section of
>> each page.
>>
>> I was thinking of the Me.Line method but don't know
>> how to
>>
>> 1) Just put it around certain boxes
>>
>> 2) How to have more than one line method going on at
>> once.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> May God bless you beyond your imagination!
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>> Databases
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From itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 27 20:06:28 2005
From: itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:06:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem
In-Reply-To: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364EE67@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>
Message-ID: <20050728010628.69636.qmail@web81510.mail.yahoo.com>

That seems to be part of it, but something has to happen to keep the database open once it hits the Else.  If I leave it as is, then the database closes when the form unloads.  Is there something I can code to keep the form loaded, even if somebody tries to close the application by hitting "x"?  
 
Is there a way to hide the"x"?  
 
Thanks,
Jeremy
 


Darren Dick <D.Dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Jeremy
There are a number of ways.
Here's one

Have a frm call it say...frmHidden
Have it open each time your app is started. Put it in an AutoExec Macro.
(Lemme know if you are unsure what an AutoExec Macro is) 

But have the macro open the form 'hidden' - IE not visible to anyone at
all.
In the On Unload or OnClose of that hidden form have something like...

If msgbox ("Are you sure you want to close Jeremy's way cool application
completely?",vbquestion + vbyesNo, "Confirm Application Close")=vbyes
then
'User chose yes so let 'em quit
'Put some code to here that allows them to exit gracefully
'IE close other forms, close reports, stop any processes etc
docmd.quit
Else
'User Chose no - so do nothing
End if

The way it works is...if the whole app is going to be closed then this
hidden form will be claosed also
Sparking the OnClose or OnUnload code thus allowing them to think about
closing completely or not
Via the message box that pops up

Hope this helps

Darren




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Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

Let me try this again. I just realized my original message never made
it to the group. Help?

Thanks,
Jeremy



Jeremy Toves wrote:
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeremy Toves 
Subject: Quitting Application Problem
To: AccessD 

I have a database that needs to complete a few processes before it is
closed. Some of the users are closing the application by using the "x"
in the upper right corner of the Access database. Is there a way to
disable this? Or can a message prompt the user to complete processing
before exiting? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 27 20:34:42 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:34:42 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
References: <000a01c58e62$be555610$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805><BAY103-DAV627EDA34DF58782227F54AEC90@phx.gbl><002901c590ab$8fe53de0$6601a8c0@user><BAY103-DAV515AE9B1C3C3EAFD756FCAECA0@phx.gbl>
	<00b501c59246$20f72140$6601a8c0@user>
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..pretty much the same way you do Kath but I make the changes on my 
development system ...test it on my client simulator system ...and then put 
a new fe on the network for normal update by the runtime systems.

..runtimes won't solve version change problems ...but you can build code 
into your startup to check the current version and load the correct runtime 
if you anticipate version changes ...that's a bit of work and only works 
transparently if MS doesn't throw a monkey wrench into things ...the damn 
"sandbox" in 2003 is a "*(&%$ example of such ...code runs fine in full 
Access but errors all over the place in the runtime ...so far I've just 
disabled it ...the "new" file dialog object is another example of something 
that works fine in full mode and not at all in runtime :(

William

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From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


..hhmmm....thinking over the pros and cons.....I am getting very tired of 
clients changing office versions etc etc and having the app crash.

And I am getting very sick of setting refs and finding that some users end 
up with it missing - whoops - crash again. So runtime should solve both 
those issues?

On the other hand, with my main client (using full Access install) I can get 
straight on to their PC online using VNC, make a change to the mdb, recreate 
the mde and post it to the network from where it gets automatically 
downloaded the next time all users open it.

That would be much harder with runtime, wouldn't it? How do you distribute 
upgrades?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..yes ...lessons learned the hard way ...give a client full Access and
  "things" happen ...bad things ..."upgrade" that client to the newest 
version
  of Office Standard (w/runtime) rather than Office Pro and save them a lot 
of
  money ...its amazing how many strange happenings stop happening to your 
apps
  :(

  William

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  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  <<how does anyone that actually supports distributed
  Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having 
full
  Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve 
first

  William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: William Hindman
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing 
around
    VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name 
is
    similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports
  cleanly,
    at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

    ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports 
distributed
    Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having
  full
    Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve
  first
    :(

    William

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    To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
    <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
    Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
    Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    > William,
    >
    > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in 
the
    > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes. 
The
    > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the controls,
  the
    > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual
    > Studio.
    >
    > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have
  never
    > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even
  purchased
    > it
    > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is very
    > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
    >
    > John W. Colby
    > www.ColbyConsulting.com
    >
    > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
    > http://folding.stanford.edu/
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
    > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
  Hindman
    > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
    > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
    >
    >
    > JC
    >
    > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio
    > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of 
VB.net
  in
    > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the
    > VBExpress route instead?
    >
    > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
    >
    > William
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
    > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
    > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
    > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
    > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
    >
    >
    >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
    >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE
    >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels
    >> almost identical to the
    >> Visual Studio however.
    >>
    >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
    >>
    >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
    >> available.
    >> I
    >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
    >> videos
    >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they
  would
    >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty
  quickly,
    >> and
    >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will 
show
    >> you
    >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so
  far)
    >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
    >>
    >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
    >> video series right now.
    >>
    >> John W. Colby
    >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
    >>
    >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
    >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 27 20:45:28 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:45:28 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number
In-Reply-To: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B4B@infoserver01.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <0IKB0074TE7RIZ@l-daemon>

Couldn't have said it better.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:30 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Have you tried using an output parameter to return the identity value?

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: Gowey Mike W [mailto:Mike.W.Gowey at doc.state.or.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number


I'm just using regular VB to save the record and store the ID number to
print the label, but SQL is not feeding me this number it just assigns
it automatically in the table and I don't know the number so that I can
requery for it.

I hope that makes sense. 


Mike Gowey  MCDST, A+, LME, NET+
Team Leader - East Region
Information Systems Unit

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence [mailto:accessd at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:00 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

Hi Mike:

If you are using a SP to save the data, capture the auto-generated id
number and return it, through the SP then you will have to manually
place the new record number on the form.

HTH
Jim 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:37 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Automatic Tracking Number

 
Hi Everyone, 

Quick question, I am currently converting all of my tables to SQL and
continuing to use Access as the front end.  Well I have run into one
snag that I can't seem to figure out.  When I enter a new record into
the main table the  tracking number that is automatically being assigned
to the record does not show on the form.  When I had the table on Access
it showed up immediately after I entered the first field of data.  I use
this tracking number to than print a label, but now I have no idea what
number is being assigned.  I look at the SQL table and the record is
there with a tracking number.

Does anyone know how to make the tracking number show on the form?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide.


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Team Leader - East Region
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From D.Dick at uws.edu.au  Wed Jul 27 20:55:41 2005
From: D.Dick at uws.edu.au (Darren Dick)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:55:41 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem
Message-ID: <2FDE83AF1A69C84796CBD13788DDA88364EF3C@BONHAM.AD.UWS.EDU.AU>

That code will do it
Put the code in the Unload of the form as the Unload Event has a cancel
option
So....copy and paste this code below into any form
Then try and close the app.

Private Sub Form_Unload(Cancel As Integer)

If MsgBox("Are you sure you want to close Jeremy's way cool application
completely?", vbQuestion + vbYesNo, "Confirm Application Close") = vbYes
Then
    'User chose yes so let 'em quit
    'Put some code to here that allows them to exit gracefully
    'IE close other forms, close reports, stop any processes etc
    DoCmd.Quit
Else 'User Chose no - so do nothing
    Cancel = True ' this will stop the action that faised the Unload to
occur IE closing the APP :-))
End If
End Sub


 DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

That seems to be part of it, but something has to happen to keep the
database open once it hits the Else.  If I leave it as is, then the
database closes when the form unloads.  Is there something I can code to
keep the form loaded, even if somebody tries to close the application by
hitting "x"?  
 
Is there a way to hide the"x"?  
 
Thanks,
Jeremy
 


Darren Dick <D.Dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Jeremy
There are a number of ways.
Here's one

Have a frm call it say...frmHidden
Have it open each time your app is started. Put it in an AutoExec Macro.
(Lemme know if you are unsure what an AutoExec Macro is) 

But have the macro open the form 'hidden' - IE not visible to anyone at
all.
In the On Unload or OnClose of that hidden form have something like...

If msgbox ("Are you sure you want to close Jeremy's way cool application
completely?",vbquestion + vbyesNo, "Confirm Application Close")=vbyes
then 'User chose yes so let 'em quit 'Put some code to here that allows
them to exit gracefully 'IE close other forms, close reports, stop any
processes etc docmd.quit Else 'User Chose no - so do nothing End if

The way it works is...if the whole app is going to be closed then this
hidden form will be claosed also Sparking the OnClose or OnUnload code
thus allowing them to think about closing completely or not Via the
message box that pops up

Hope this helps

Darren




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

Let me try this again. I just realized my original message never made it
to the group. Help?

Thanks,
Jeremy



Jeremy Toves wrote:
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeremy Toves
Subject: Quitting Application Problem
To: AccessD 

I have a database that needs to complete a few processes before it is
closed. Some of the users are closing the application by using the "x"
in the upper right corner of the Access database. Is there a way to
disable this? Or can a message prompt the user to complete processing
before exiting? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeremy Toves

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Jul 27 20:49:48 2005
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:49:48 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000
In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050727110543.02984a98@pop.btl.net>
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Hi Paul:

By using ADO-OLE. There are many references and code that have been on it
posted on the list over the years. Just go to site/page
(http://www.databaseadvisors.com/archive/archive.htm ) on the DBA site and
search on ADO.

HTH
Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul M. Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting MS Access 2000 to SQL Server 2000

I have an application initially written in Access 97 and then moved to 
2000.  It talks to a SQL Server 2000 database using tables linked through 
an ODBC driver.  Lately I have had several instances where I call a stored 
procedure to perform an operation but I don't receive a response from the 
SQL Server even though the operation was carried out successfully.  This 
leaves my application hanging.  I suspect it has to do with the ODBC 
connection.  Anybody has any experiences with this type of issue?

On a related note, is there a better way of linking my tables to the SQL 
Server other than to use an ODBC driver?  I have a couple of newer projects 
that use ADP but unfortunately, it's not an option for me at this point 
since I have too many queries that I'll need to convert to either stored 
procedures or views.

Thanks

Paul M. Jones


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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Wed Jul 27 21:01:45 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:01:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos 
Message-ID: <OFE793CF55.6A61F716-ONCA25704C.000ACD63@agric.nsw.gov.au>

Kath,

We use Sagekey to deploy Access97 over multiple platforms, and when i make 
an upgrade I just use the exe to do it. The advantage we have found is as 
it takes its own references and such I do not get deployment issues 
despite having 2500 users over 4 different SOEs and 4 departments. I run 
Access97 apps across office 97, 2000, XP and all operating systems from 
windows98 to XP, 2000 and NT. Just a thought, if you want more information 
just let me know.

Regards,
Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries 
Orange


..pretty much the same way you do Kath but I make the changes on my 
development system ...test it on my client simulator system ...and then 
put 
a new fe on the network for normal update by the runtime systems.

..runtimes won't solve version change problems ...but you can build code 
into your startup to check the current version and load the correct 
runtime 
if you anticipate version changes ...that's a bit of work and only works 
transparently if MS doesn't throw a monkey wrench into things ...the damn 
"sandbox" in 2003 is a "*(&%$ example of such ...code runs fine in full 
Access but errors all over the place in the runtime ...so far I've just 
disabled it ...the "new" file dialog object is another example of 
something 
that works fine in full mode and not at all in runtime :(

William


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jul 27 21:08:07 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:08:07 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
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You might want to change the subject of this thread

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:02 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos 


Kath,

We use Sagekey to deploy Access97 over multiple platforms, and when i make 
an upgrade I just use the exe to do it. The advantage we have found is as 
it takes its own references and such I do not get deployment issues 
despite having 2500 users over 4 different SOEs and 4 departments. I run 
Access97 apps across office 97, 2000, XP and all operating systems from 
windows98 to XP, 2000 and NT. Just a thought, if you want more information 
just let me know.

Regards,
Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries 
Orange


..pretty much the same way you do Kath but I make the changes on my 
development system ...test it on my client simulator system ...and then 
put 
a new fe on the network for normal update by the runtime systems.

..runtimes won't solve version change problems ...but you can build code 
into your startup to check the current version and load the correct 
runtime 
if you anticipate version changes ...that's a bit of work and only works 
transparently if MS doesn't throw a monkey wrench into things ...the damn 
"sandbox" in 2003 is a "*(&%$ example of such ...code runs fine in full 
Access but errors all over the place in the runtime ...so far I've just 
disabled it ...the "new" file dialog object is another example of 
something 
that works fine in full mode and not at all in runtime :(

William


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From itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 27 21:08:55 2005
From: itsame2000 at sbcglobal.net (Jeremy Toves)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:08:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem
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Message-ID: <20050728020855.77475.qmail@web81502.mail.yahoo.com>

Darren, 

Thanks for the help!
 
Jeremy

Darren Dick <D.Dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
That code will do it
Put the code in the Unload of the form as the Unload Event has a cancel
option
So....copy and paste this code below into any form
Then try and close the app.

Private Sub Form_Unload(Cancel As Integer)

If MsgBox("Are you sure you want to close Jeremy's way cool application
completely?", vbQuestion + vbYesNo, "Confirm Application Close") = vbYes
Then
'User chose yes so let 'em quit
'Put some code to here that allows them to exit gracefully
'IE close other forms, close reports, stop any processes etc
DoCmd.Quit
Else 'User Chose no - so do nothing
Cancel = True ' this will stop the action that faised the Unload to
occur IE closing the APP :-))
End If
End Sub


DD

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

That seems to be part of it, but something has to happen to keep the
database open once it hits the Else. If I leave it as is, then the
database closes when the form unloads. Is there something I can code to
keep the form loaded, even if somebody tries to close the application by
hitting "x"? 

Is there a way to hide the"x"? 

Thanks,
Jeremy



Darren Dick wrote:
Hi Jeremy
There are a number of ways.
Here's one

Have a frm call it say...frmHidden
Have it open each time your app is started. Put it in an AutoExec Macro.
(Lemme know if you are unsure what an AutoExec Macro is) 

But have the macro open the form 'hidden' - IE not visible to anyone at
all.
In the On Unload or OnClose of that hidden form have something like...

If msgbox ("Are you sure you want to close Jeremy's way cool application
completely?",vbquestion + vbyesNo, "Confirm Application Close")=vbyes
then 'User chose yes so let 'em quit 'Put some code to here that allows
them to exit gracefully 'IE close other forms, close reports, stop any
processes etc docmd.quit Else 'User Chose no - so do nothing End if

The way it works is...if the whole app is going to be closed then this
hidden form will be claosed also Sparking the OnClose or OnUnload code
thus allowing them to think about closing completely or not Via the
message box that pops up

Hope this helps

Darren




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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

Let me try this again. I just realized my original message never made it
to the group. Help?

Thanks,
Jeremy



Jeremy Toves wrote:
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeremy Toves
Subject: Quitting Application Problem
To: AccessD 

I have a database that needs to complete a few processes before it is
closed. Some of the users are closing the application by using the "x"
in the upper right corner of the Access database. Is there a way to
disable this? Or can a message prompt the user to complete processing
before exiting? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeremy Toves

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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jul 27 21:24:48 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:24:48 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install
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<<...runtimes won't solve version change problems.....
Really? 

Are you saying that if you distribute a runtime and users then install eg. a newer version of Access then it can play up? Sounds like a headache....exactly the kind of problem I have now.

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..pretty much the same way you do Kath but I make the changes on my 
  development system ...test it on my client simulator system ...and then put 
  a new fe on the network for normal update by the runtime systems.

  ..runtimes won't solve version change problems ...but you can build code 
  into your startup to check the current version and load the correct runtime 
  if you anticipate version changes ...that's a bit of work and only works 
  transparently if MS doesn't throw a monkey wrench into things ...the damn 
  "sandbox" in 2003 is a "*(&%$ example of such ...code runs fine in full 
  Access but errors all over the place in the runtime ...so far I've just 
  disabled it ...the "new" file dialog object is another example of something 
  that works fine in full mode and not at all in runtime :(

  William

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..hhmmm....thinking over the pros and cons.....I am getting very tired of 
  clients changing office versions etc etc and having the app crash.

  And I am getting very sick of setting refs and finding that some users end 
  up with it missing - whoops - crash again. So runtime should solve both 
  those issues?

  On the other hand, with my main client (using full Access install) I can get 
  straight on to their PC online using VNC, make a change to the mdb, recreate 
  the mde and post it to the network from where it gets automatically 
  downloaded the next time all users open it.

  That would be much harder with runtime, wouldn't it? How do you distribute 
  upgrades?

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: William Hindman
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:15 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    ..yes ...lessons learned the hard way ...give a client full Access and
    "things" happen ...bad things ..."upgrade" that client to the newest 
  version
    of Office Standard (w/runtime) rather than Office Pro and save them a lot 
  of
    money ...its amazing how many strange happenings stop happening to your 
  apps
    :(

    William

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
    To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
    <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
    Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:58 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    <<how does anyone that actually supports distributed
    Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having 
  full
    Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve 
  first

    William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

    Kath
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: William Hindman
      To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
      Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
      Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


      ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing 
  around
      VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name 
  is
      similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports
    cleanly,
      at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

      ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports 
  distributed
      Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having
    full
      Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve
    first
      :(

      William

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
      To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
      <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
      Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
      Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


      > William,
      >
      > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in 
  the
      > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes. 
  The
      > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the controls,
    the
      > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual
      > Studio.
      >
      > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have
    never
      > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even
    purchased
      > it
      > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is very
      > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
      >
      > John W. Colby
      > www.ColbyConsulting.com
      >
      > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
      > http://folding.stanford.edu/
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
      > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
    Hindman
      > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
      > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
      > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
      >
      >
      > JC
      >
      > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual Studio
      > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of 
  VB.net
    in
      > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go the
      > VBExpress route instead?
      >
      > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
      >
      > William
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
      > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
      > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
      > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
      >
      >
      >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
      >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own IDE
      >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and feels
      >> almost identical to the
      >> Visual Studio however.
      >>
      >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
      >>
      >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
      >> available.
      >> I
      >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done (some)
      >> videos
      >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they
    would
      >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty
    quickly,
      >> and
      >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will 
  show
      >> you
      >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so
    far)
      >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
      >>
      >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
      >> video series right now.
      >>
      >> John W. Colby
      >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
      >>
      >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
      >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
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From KP at sdsonline.net  Wed Jul 27 21:41:01 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:41:01 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install
References: <OFE793CF55.6A61F716-ONCA25704C.000ACD63@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <002101c5931d$cb5706a0$6601a8c0@user>

Hi Connie - thanks for the reply. 2500 users? That's pretty impressive. Did you notice William's email? Have you had the version change problems he mentions?

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:01 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos 


  Kath,

  We use Sagekey to deploy Access97 over multiple platforms, and when i make 
  an upgrade I just use the exe to do it. The advantage we have found is as 
  it takes its own references and such I do not get deployment issues 
  despite having 2500 users over 4 different SOEs and 4 departments. I run 
  Access97 apps across office 97, 2000, XP and all operating systems from 
  windows98 to XP, 2000 and NT. Just a thought, if you want more information 
  just let me know.

  Regards,
  Connie Kamrowski

  Analyst/Programmer
  Information Technology
  NSW Department of Primary Industries 
  Orange


  ..pretty much the same way you do Kath but I make the changes on my 
  development system ...test it on my client simulator system ...and then 
  put 
  a new fe on the network for normal update by the runtime systems.

  ..runtimes won't solve version change problems ...but you can build code 
  into your startup to check the current version and load the correct 
  runtime 
  if you anticipate version changes ...that's a bit of work and only works 
  transparently if MS doesn't throw a monkey wrench into things ...the damn 
  "sandbox" in 2003 is a "*(&%$ example of such ...code runs fine in full 
  Access but errors all over the place in the runtime ...so far I've just 
  disabled it ...the "new" file dialog object is another example of 
  something 
  that works fine in full mode and not at all in runtime :(

  William


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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Wed Jul 27 20:50:58 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:50:58 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: AccessD Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35
Message-ID: <OF5625B1D6.F5DADEBF-ONCA25704C.00096FFB@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Hello List,

Just when it seemed I had all the information I needed up pops another good
one.

I have been meeting today with a group of people who have been implementing
a rather unique process for managing their data. They firstly store
approximately 475000 records in one table in an Access Database, They then
run a query on this database which creates 385000+ records and sticks them
in a second database, they then run a query on this one generating 285000
records and store this in ... you guessed it Database number 3. To finish
it off they query again, store the results in a 4th database and use this
one for day to day business. The databases range in size from 1.05gigabytes
back to 370Megabytes. I was in awe.

I am now designing a new relational database to store and manage this data.

My problem is this, the business drivers for this database have now got
soem concerns for the integrity of the data (possibly based on the look on
my face when they showed me the databases). And so while I am redesigning
and they are finding the money for rebuilding they wish to archive off some
of the records in the largest database. They would however need to be able
to search and manipulate these records. What is the best way to manage
this?

I am astounded by the way some people use Access,

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Jul 27 22:12:17 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:12:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: AccessD Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35
In-Reply-To: <OF5625B1D6.F5DADEBF-ONCA25704C.00096FFB@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <000801c59322$2902d5f0$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805>

>I am astounded by the way some people use Access

ROTFL.  

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
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connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: AccessD Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35



Hello List,

Just when it seemed I had all the information I needed up pops another good
one.

I have been meeting today with a group of people who have been implementing
a rather unique process for managing their data. They firstly store
approximately 475000 records in one table in an Access Database, They then
run a query on this database which creates 385000+ records and sticks them
in a second database, they then run a query on this one generating 285000
records and store this in ... you guessed it Database number 3. To finish it
off they query again, store the results in a 4th database and use this one
for day to day business. The databases range in size from 1.05gigabytes back
to 370Megabytes. I was in awe.

I am now designing a new relational database to store and manage this data.

My problem is this, the business drivers for this database have now got soem
concerns for the integrity of the data (possibly based on the look on my
face when they showed me the databases). And so while I am redesigning and
they are finding the money for rebuilding they wish to archive off some of
the records in the largest database. They would however need to be able to
search and manipulate these records. What is the best way to manage this?

I am astounded by the way some people use Access,

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange



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From jmhecht at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 27 22:47:29 2005
From: jmhecht at earthlink.net (Joe Hecht)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:47:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem
In-Reply-To: <20050728010628.69636.qmail@web81510.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c59327$1455ebb0$6401a8c0@laptop1>

In the form properties you can disable the "x"

Joe Hecht
Los Angeles CA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:06 PM
To: access at joe2.endjunk.com; Access Developers discussion and problem
solving
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

That seems to be part of it, but something has to happen to keep the
database open once it hits the Else.  If I leave it as is, then the database
closes when the form unloads.  Is there something I can code to keep the
form loaded, even if somebody tries to close the application by hitting "x"?

 
Is there a way to hide the"x"?  
 
Thanks,
Jeremy
 


Darren Dick <D.Dick at uws.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Jeremy
There are a number of ways.
Here's one

Have a frm call it say...frmHidden
Have it open each time your app is started. Put it in an AutoExec Macro.
(Lemme know if you are unsure what an AutoExec Macro is) 

But have the macro open the form 'hidden' - IE not visible to anyone at
all.
In the On Unload or OnClose of that hidden form have something like...

If msgbox ("Are you sure you want to close Jeremy's way cool application
completely?",vbquestion + vbyesNo, "Confirm Application Close")=vbyes
then
'User chose yes so let 'em quit
'Put some code to here that allows them to exit gracefully
'IE close other forms, close reports, stop any processes etc
docmd.quit
Else
'User Chose no - so do nothing
End if

The way it works is...if the whole app is going to be closed then this
hidden form will be claosed also
Sparking the OnClose or OnUnload code thus allowing them to think about
closing completely or not
Via the message box that pops up

Hope this helps

Darren




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Toves
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:03 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] Fwd: Quitting Application Problem

Let me try this again. I just realized my original message never made
it to the group. Help?

Thanks,
Jeremy



Jeremy Toves wrote:
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 13:03:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeremy Toves 
Subject: Quitting Application Problem
To: AccessD 

I have a database that needs to complete a few processes before it is
closed. Some of the users are closing the application by using the "x"
in the upper right corner of the Access database. Is there a way to
disable this? Or can a message prompt the user to complete processing
before exiting? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeremy Toves

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From artful at rogers.com  Wed Jul 27 23:07:02 2005
From: artful at rogers.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 00:07:02 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
In-Reply-To: <42E7F540.6030202@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <200507280406.j6S46vR30843@databaseadvisors.com>

Thanks for the addendum, Marty!


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: July 27, 2005 4:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software

Here is a US software escrow FAQ, Europe may differ on laws.
A local lawyer who practices IP Intellectual Property rights or 
copyright law.
or some banks in Europe used to provide this service alongside Financial 
Escrow.
might do it cheaper. But if you are putting out a lot of versions, the 
US price $500 - $750 sounds right
for a escrow company that does this on a daily basis.
http://www.softescrow.com/faq.html

Arthur Fuller wrote:

>My Dutch is pretty shaky (I know only about 5 words, of which my favourite
>is the word for vacuum cleaner) so I will respond in English. In a
situation
>such as this (assuming the good intentions of the client), what the client
>is primarily concerned about is what happens should you get run over by a
>tram or meet some similar demise. What you are concerned about is
protecting
>your source code. To protect both parties, you place the source code in
>escrow, which means in the hands of a disinterested party. Should the tram
>kill you, the client gets the code. Should you avoid collisions with a
tram,
>your source code is safe.
>
>Arthur



From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Wed Jul 27 23:10:58 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 00:10:58 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: AccessD Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35
References: <OF5625B1D6.F5DADEBF-ONCA25704C.00096FFB@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <045401c5932a$5cf47000$0302a8c0@default>

...
>They firstly store approximately 475000 records in one table in an
> Access Database, They then run a query on this database which
> creates 385000+ records and sticks them in a second database,
> they then run a query on this one generating 285000 records and
> store this in ... you guessed it Database number 3. To finish it off
> they query again, store the results in a 4th database and use this
> one for day to day business.

Connie, can it be assumed that data-entry is done in the first db?
Or, are you saying that records are transferred from the fourth db
to the first at the end of the day? Perhaps they are even pulling such
data from a different database system?

...
> they wish to archive off some of the records in the largest database.
> They would however need to be able to search and manipulate these
> records. What is the best way to manage this?

If I read into this correctly, there are several records per account and
your new relational system will keep the track of the account number.
As long as there is a Primary Key AutoNumber that can relate to a Long
in the archive table(s), you can just use SQL for searches and edits.
Perhaps it is not this simple, though ... ? What's missing?

----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



----- Original Message -----
From: <connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:50 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Re: AccessD Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35


>
> Hello List,
>
> Just when it seemed I had all the information I needed up pops another
good
> one.
>
> I have been meeting today with a group of people who have been
implementing
> a rather unique process for managing their data. They firstly store
> approximately 475000 records in one table in an Access Database, They then
> run a query on this database which creates 385000+ records and sticks them
> in a second database, they then run a query on this one generating 285000
> records and store this in ... you guessed it Database number 3. To finish
> it off they query again, store the results in a 4th database and use this
> one for day to day business. The databases range in size from
1.05gigabytes
> back to 370Megabytes. I was in awe.
>
> I am now designing a new relational database to store and manage this
data.
>
> My problem is this, the business drivers for this database have now got
> soem concerns for the integrity of the data (possibly based on the look on
> my face when they showed me the databases). And so while I am redesigning
> and they are finding the money for rebuilding they wish to archive off
some
> of the records in the largest database. They would however need to be able
> to search and manipulate these records. What is the best way to manage
> this?
>
> I am astounded by the way some people use Access,
>
> Connie Kamrowski
>
> Analyst/Programmer
> Information Technology
> NSW Department of Primary Industries
> Orange



From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Wed Jul 27 23:30:38 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:30:38 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Huge Access Database was wrongly named Re: AccessD
 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35 
Message-ID: <OFCAD7FBAE.96D03B6A-ONCA25704C.00171874@agric.nsw.gov.au>


Matty,

Yes the data is all entered into the original Database. The 4th DB is
actrually the data they need to export as a commercial venture (my headache
is getting worse LOL). The original data is entered from old records and
until I create the new relational model with a shiny new SQL backend this
is the only electronic record of the data. The need is there to be able to
seperate this based on the date it was entered and store as a historical
record, Problem is they may need to search the historical data for a
specific record. I am unsure of the best way to manage this volume of
records I guess. There is a unique number per record, it is the serial
number given by the database. The criteria they will search on is a 16
digit alphanumeric field. It is probably simple, but as I have not dealt
with the whole historical record managemnt thing I am looking for advice on
how to manage this in the interim. That and I wanted to share this as a
hall of fame use of Access, LOL.

John,

What was the amusing bit??? The use of Access or my amazement.... *grin*
.... they obviously didn't have access to this group or they would have
known better huh?

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange

>They firstly store approximately 475000 records in one table in an
> Access Database, They then run a query on this database which
> creates 385000+ records and sticks them in a second database,
> they then run a query on this one generating 285000 records and
> store this in ... you guessed it Database number 3. To finish it off
> they query again, store the results in a 4th database and use this
> one for day to day business.

Connie, can it be assumed that data-entry is done in the first db?
Or, are you saying that records are transferred from the fourth db
to the first at the end of the day? Perhaps they are even pulling such
data from a different database system?

...
> they wish to archive off some of the records in the largest database.
> They would however need to be able to search and manipulate these
> records. What is the best way to manage this?

If I read into this correctly, there are several records per account and
your new relational system will keep the track of the account number.
As long as there is a Primary Key AutoNumber that can relate to a Long
in the archive table(s), you can just use SQL for searches and edits.
Perhaps it is not this simple, though ... ? What's missing?



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From connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au  Wed Jul 27 23:46:35 2005
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au (connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:46:35 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install
Message-ID: <OF4407B1B7.1C627C41-ONCA25704C.001993E3@agric.nsw.gov.au>

Not so impressive, they are not concurrent :) Just potentially so. 
Databases are not always deployed across all users.  I was referencing the 
fact that we have deployed at least one database to these users and their 
specific environments and have not had problems. 

Because of the way sagekey works we have found that as long as we 
encapsulate all of the things we reference into the sagekey runtime, we 
have had no issues at all. It may be worth a look at their website http://www.sagekey.com/ for a run down of what it does and what they promise. Just a suggestion 
but it has worked really well for us with the issues we were having cross 
deploying and installing upgrades.

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries 
Orange

Ph: 02 6391 3250
Fax:02 6391 3290


Hi Connie - thanks for the reply. 2500 users? That's pretty impressive. 
Did you notice William's email? Have you had the version change problems 
he mentions?

Kath


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From dejpolsys at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 28 00:26:29 2005
From: dejpolsys at hotmail.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:26:29 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install
References: <000a01c58e62$be555610$6c7aa8c0@ColbyM6805><BAY103-DAV627EDA34DF58782227F54AEC90@phx.gbl><002901c590ab$8fe53de0$6601a8c0@user><BAY103-DAV515AE9B1C3C3EAFD756FCAECA0@phx.gbl><00b501c59246$20f72140$6601a8c0@user><BAY103-DAV17E0928E7F20E7D65F2C9BAECF0@phx.gbl>
	<001901c5931b$8744a4b0$6601a8c0@user>
Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV64B448E78E740D92A1FCAAECF0@phx.gbl>

..hhhmmm ...either I'm misreading you or there is a fundamental 
misunderstanding somewhere in here ...a runtime mdb/mde is exactly the same 
as a full install mdb/mde ...the difference is that Access itself is not 
fully installed in a runtime ...the design/coding elements are not there so 
a user can't change anything ...it runs exactly as you designed it to run.

..if you have an A97 mdb and an A2k runtime it should still run as long as 
the references are there ...but the reverse is not true ...so I use startup 
code to check the installed version and call the corresponding fe mdb/mde.

..if you invest in the wise install tools, they handle those issues much 
better than the native Access distribution tools do and the default is to 
let them do all the work for you.

William

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:24 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install


<<...runtimes won't solve version change problems.....
Really?

Are you saying that if you distribute a runtime and users then install eg. a 
newer version of Access then it can play up? Sounds like a 
headache....exactly the kind of problem I have now.

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Hindman
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..pretty much the same way you do Kath but I make the changes on my
  development system ...test it on my client simulator system ...and then 
put
  a new fe on the network for normal update by the runtime systems.

  ..runtimes won't solve version change problems ...but you can build code
  into your startup to check the current version and load the correct 
runtime
  if you anticipate version changes ...that's a bit of work and only works
  transparently if MS doesn't throw a monkey wrench into things ...the damn
  "sandbox" in 2003 is a "*(&%$ example of such ...code runs fine in full
  Access but errors all over the place in the runtime ...so far I've just
  disabled it ...the "new" file dialog object is another example of 
something
  that works fine in full mode and not at all in runtime :(

  William

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


  ..hhmmm....thinking over the pros and cons.....I am getting very tired of
  clients changing office versions etc etc and having the app crash.

  And I am getting very sick of setting refs and finding that some users end
  up with it missing - whoops - crash again. So runtime should solve both
  those issues?

  On the other hand, with my main client (using full Access install) I can 
get
  straight on to their PC online using VNC, make a change to the mdb, 
recreate
  the mde and post it to the network from where it gets automatically
  downloaded the next time all users open it.

  That would be much harder with runtime, wouldn't it? How do you distribute
  upgrades?

  Kath
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: William Hindman
    To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
    Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:15 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    ..yes ...lessons learned the hard way ...give a client full Access and
    "things" happen ...bad things ..."upgrade" that client to the newest
  version
    of Office Standard (w/runtime) rather than Office Pro and save them a 
lot
  of
    money ...its amazing how many strange happenings stop happening to your
  apps
    :(

    William

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Kath Pelletti" <KP at sdsonline.net>
    To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
    <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
    Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 7:58 PM
    Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


    <<how does anyone that actually supports distributed
    Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having
  full
    Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve
  first

    William - does this mean that you ony distribute runtime apps?

    Kath
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: William Hindman
      To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
      Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:08 PM
      Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


      ..thanks JC, I'll dl the videos and have a look then ...tap dancing
  around
      VB.net whenever I'm bored with everything else going on ...the VB name
  is
      similar but the ide keeps throwing me for a loop and nothing ports
    cleanly,
      at least for me ...but I admit to getting old :)

      ..as for the VS Tools, how does anyone that actually supports
  distributed
      Access based apps get by without it? ...that would mean clients having
    full
      Access installs and all the troubles that implies ...I'd rather starve
    first
      :(

      William

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
      To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
      <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
      Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:11 PM
      Subject: RE: [AccessD] VBExpress videos


      > William,
      >
      > Apparently Express is a simplified version of the one that comes in
  the
      > Visual Studio.  As for the videos being useful, I think mostly yes.
  The
      > videos are about how to manipulate the various windows, the 
controls,
    the
      > forms etc.  All that is pretty much just like the version in Visual
      > Studio.
      >
      > My email was aimed at those lost souls (like myself) who either have
    never
      > managed to really "get there" with Visual Studio, or never even
    purchased
      > it
      > because of the expense.  VBExpress is free (for the beta which is 
very
      > stable) and will be $50 when released at the end of the year.
      >
      > John W. Colby
      > www.ColbyConsulting.com
      >
      > Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
      > http://folding.stanford.edu/
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
      > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
    Hindman
      > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:57 PM
      > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
      > Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
      >
      >
      > JC
      >
      > ..how is this different than the VB.Net that comes with Visual 
Studio
      > Tools? ...since MS compels me to pay for the standard version of
  VB.net
    in
      > order to get the equivalent of the old ODE, why might I want to go 
the
      > VBExpress route instead?
      >
      > ..and are the videos of use in the VB.net ide?
      >
      > William
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "John W. Colby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
      > To: "VBA" <dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com>; "AccessD"
      > <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:50 PM
      > Subject: [AccessD] VBExpress videos
      >
      >
      >> In case you haven't found them, there is a beta available for
      >> VBExpress which is really just VB.Net light version, with its own 
IDE
      >> instead of being embedded in Visual Studio.  The IDE looks and 
feels
      >> almost identical to the
      >> Visual Studio however.
      >>
      >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/beginner/
      >>
      >> Once you download and install the VBExpress notice the videos
      >> available.
      >> I
      >> discovered this guy a couple of years ago but he has now done 
(some)
      >> videos
      >> for this VBExpress and I am finding them very useful  I think they
    would
      >> allow anyone who frequents this board to get up to speed pretty
    quickly,
      >> and
      >> I have to tell you, VBExpress.net is waaay cool.  The videos will
  show
      >> you
      >> how to do stuff in the user interface (all that I have gotten to so
    far)
      >> that we can only dream of in VBA.
      >>
      >> Check it out - it looks very good to me.  I am working through the
      >> video series right now.
      >>
      >> John W. Colby
      >> www.ColbyConsulting.com
      >>
      >> Contribute your unused CPU cycles to a good cause:
      >> http://folding.stanford.edu/
      >>
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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jul 28 01:37:15 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:37:15 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
References: <200507280406.j6S46vR30843@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <42E87D1B.9080308@shaw.ca>

Nah I have a kid brother who teaches this stuff in university to law 
students
and he bugs me about it occasionally. This stuff changes fast. Five 
years ago even computer forensics
was mickey mouse, now you need a Ph.D. in Comp Sci. Even local cops
are grabbing accelerometer data out of car computers for crash analysis 
and evidence.
The complete software and hardware to do it is available for under $500.
I used to escrow software with a local friendly lawyer 15 years ago
He did it as an oddity, just to say he was the only guy in the city 
doing it.
And I gave him a couple of dozen new clients
Now it has turned into an industry with earthquake proof vaults.

Arthur Fuller wrote:

>Thanks for the addendum, Marty!
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
>Sent: July 27, 2005 4:58 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: looking for ASP/ASP.NET E-commerce shop software
>
>Here is a US software escrow FAQ, Europe may differ on laws.
>A local lawyer who practices IP Intellectual Property rights or 
>copyright law.
>or some banks in Europe used to provide this service alongside Financial 
>Escrow.
>might do it cheaper. But if you are putting out a lot of versions, the 
>US price $500 - $750 sounds right
>for a escrow company that does this on a daily basis.
>http://www.softescrow.com/faq.html
>
>Arthur Fuller wrote:
>
>  
>
>>My Dutch is pretty shaky (I know only about 5 words, of which my favourite
>>is the word for vacuum cleaner) so I will respond in English. In a
>>    
>>
>situation
>  
>
>>such as this (assuming the good intentions of the client), what the client
>>is primarily concerned about is what happens should you get run over by a
>>tram or meet some similar demise. What you are concerned about is
>>    
>>
>protecting
>  
>
>>your source code. To protect both parties, you place the source code in
>>escrow, which means in the hands of a disinterested party. Should the tram
>>kill you, the client gets the code. Should you avoid collisions with a
>>    
>>
>tram,
>  
>
>>your source code is safe.
>>
>>Arthur
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

-- 
Marty Connelly
Victoria, B.C.
Canada





From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jul 28 06:19:12 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:19:12 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C381F3@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED81@ADGSERVER>

Yes, I always do a decompile/compact/recompile before creating an MDE.  I
dunno if it makes a difference, but sometimes it will not compile to an MDE
if I do not decompile first.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Locking question


Are you sure the FE was decompiled/compiled before it was converted to an
MDE?  Or since the code is 'removed' maybe that doesn't make a difference.

Dan Waters



From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Jul 28 08:24:37 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:24:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EB02E3@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

I am trying to feed a variable into a parameter query. I have done this
with dates but cannot get the syntax right (correct combination of
single, double quotes etc.) on pushing this text field into the query.
If someone has a better way to push a variable into a parameter query
feel free to jump in. Thanks all. Below is the code.

 

Option Compare Database

 

Function Table_Data_to_Parameter_Query()

 

    Dim MyDb As Database, MyQDef As QueryDef, myds As Recordset, myds1
As Recordset

    Dim strSQL As String, Table_Data As String

    

    Set MyDb = CurrentDb()

    Set myds = MyDb.OpenRecordset("tbl Patterns to Run", dbOpenTable)

    Set MyQDef2 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern Start Date")

    

    PatternName = myds.Fields(0)

 

    strSQL = "SELECT Pattern, [CO2 Injection Start Date Schedule1]" & _

    "FROM [tbl Schedules]" & _

    "WHERE [tbl Schedules].Pattern=PatternName;"

 

    Set MyQDef = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern Start Date")

    MyQDef.SQL = strSQL

    Set myds1 = MyQDef.OpenRecordset()

    Table_Data = myds1.Fields(0)

    

    Set MyQDef = Nothing

 

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large
number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

FAX (432) 688-3799

 



From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Jul 28 08:33:28 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:33:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233772C@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

try

"WHERE [tbl Schedules].Pattern=" & PatternName & ";"
Regards,
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query


I am trying to feed a variable into a parameter query. I have done this
with dates but cannot get the syntax right (correct combination of
single, double quotes etc.) on pushing this text field into the query.
If someone has a better way to push a variable into a parameter query
feel free to jump in. Thanks all. Below is the code.

 

Option Compare Database

 

Function Table_Data_to_Parameter_Query()

 

    Dim MyDb As Database, MyQDef As QueryDef, myds As Recordset, myds1
As Recordset

    Dim strSQL As String, Table_Data As String

    

    Set MyDb = CurrentDb()

    Set myds = MyDb.OpenRecordset("tbl Patterns to Run", dbOpenTable)

    Set MyQDef2 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern Start Date")

    

    PatternName = myds.Fields(0)

 

    strSQL = "SELECT Pattern, [CO2 Injection Start Date Schedule1]" & _

    "FROM [tbl Schedules]" & _

    "WHERE [tbl Schedules].Pattern=PatternName;"

 

    Set MyQDef = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern Start Date")

    MyQDef.SQL = strSQL

    Set myds1 = MyQDef.OpenRecordset()

    Table_Data = myds1.Fields(0)

    

    Set MyQDef = Nothing

 

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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From mikedorism at verizon.net  Thu Jul 28 08:35:37 2005
From: mikedorism at verizon.net (Mike & Doris Manning)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:35:37 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query
In-Reply-To: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EB02E3@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <000001c59379$3de12ba0$2e01a8c0@dorismanning>

Try

    strSQL = "SELECT Pattern, [CO2 Injection Start Date Schedule1]" & _

    "FROM [tbl Schedules]" & _

    "WHERE [tbl Schedules].Pattern= '" & PatternName & "';"

Doris Manning
Database Administrator
Hargrove Inc.




From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Thu Jul 28 08:40:34 2005
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Michael R Mattys)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:40:34 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Huge Access Database was wrongly named Re: AccessD
	Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35
References: <OFCAD7FBAE.96D03B6A-ONCA25704C.00171874@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <04e201c59379$f204bd90$0302a8c0@default>

Connie,

475,000 is not that many records that they needed to
go to such extremes as to make these separate tables
in separate databases.

You should be able to achieve the same result they got
in the subsequent (4th) databases by using simple queries and
manage the searches/edits through there. They may have
somehow changed the data/structure of those tables, though,
and that could be why they're worried.

You'll need a few queries - one based upon the next:

The first query will simply be a date range - fast and simple.
This can only produce a number of records that could possibly
have been entered (from paper records) within that date range.
Results may need to be appended to a temp table to increase
performance.

The second query will be based upon the first (or temp table) and
have another general criteria that the desired records have in common

Edits can take place upon the temp table and then an update query
can edit the original table.

There are also data-mining methods where data is denormalized
and translation tables used to get at data quickly, but I think Charlotte
would be better at explaining this ...
----

Michael R. Mattys
Mattys MapLib for Microsoft MapPoint
http://www.mattysconsulting.com



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From: <connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:30 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Huge Access Database was wrongly named Re: AccessD
Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35


>
> Matty,
>
> Yes the data is all entered into the original Database. The 4th DB is
> actrually the data they need to export as a commercial venture (my
headache
> is getting worse LOL). The original data is entered from old records and
> until I create the new relational model with a shiny new SQL backend this
> is the only electronic record of the data. The need is there to be able to
> seperate this based on the date it was entered and store as a historical
> record, Problem is they may need to search the historical data for a
> specific record. I am unsure of the best way to manage this volume of
> records I guess. There is a unique number per record, it is the serial
> number given by the database. The criteria they will search on is a 16
> digit alphanumeric field. It is probably simple, but as I have not dealt
> with the whole historical record managemnt thing I am looking for advice
on
> how to manage this in the interim. That and I wanted to share this as a
> hall of fame use of Access, LOL.
>
> John,
>
> What was the amusing bit??? The use of Access or my amazement.... *grin*
> .... they obviously didn't have access to this group or they would have
> known better huh?
>
> Connie Kamrowski
>
> Analyst/Programmer
> Information Technology
> NSW Department of Primary Industries
> Orange
>
> >They firstly store approximately 475000 records in one table in an
> > Access Database, They then run a query on this database which
> > creates 385000+ records and sticks them in a second database,
> > they then run a query on this one generating 285000 records and
> > store this in ... you guessed it Database number 3. To finish it off
> > they query again, store the results in a 4th database and use this
> > one for day to day business.
>
> Connie, can it be assumed that data-entry is done in the first db?
> Or, are you saying that records are transferred from the fourth db
> to the first at the end of the day? Perhaps they are even pulling such
> data from a different database system?
>
> ...
> > they wish to archive off some of the records in the largest database.
> > They would however need to be able to search and manipulate these
> > records. What is the best way to manage this?
>
> If I read into this correctly, there are several records per account and
> your new relational system will keep the track of the account number.
> As long as there is a Primary Key AutoNumber that can relate to a Long
> in the archive table(s), you can just use SQL for searches and edits.
> Perhaps it is not this simple, though ... ? What's missing?
>
>
>
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From Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com  Thu Jul 28 08:47:21 2005
From: Jim.Hale at FleetPride.com (Hale, Jim)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:47:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query
Message-ID: <6A6AA9DF57E4F046BDA1E273BDDB677233772D@corp-es01.fleetpride.com>

If your variable is text, use Doris's solution (the single quotes are
important), for numbers mine should work.
Jim Hale 

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From: Hale, Jim [mailto:Jim.Hale at fleetpride.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query


try

"WHERE [tbl Schedules].Pattern=" & PatternName & ";"
Regards,
Jim Hale

-----Original Message-----
From: Kaup, Chester [mailto:Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query


I am trying to feed a variable into a parameter query. I have done this
with dates but cannot get the syntax right (correct combination of
single, double quotes etc.) on pushing this text field into the query.
If someone has a better way to push a variable into a parameter query
feel free to jump in. Thanks all. Below is the code.

 

Option Compare Database

 

Function Table_Data_to_Parameter_Query()

 

    Dim MyDb As Database, MyQDef As QueryDef, myds As Recordset, myds1
As Recordset

    Dim strSQL As String, Table_Data As String

    

    Set MyDb = CurrentDb()

    Set myds = MyDb.OpenRecordset("tbl Patterns to Run", dbOpenTable)

    Set MyQDef2 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern Start Date")

    

    PatternName = myds.Fields(0)

 

    strSQL = "SELECT Pattern, [CO2 Injection Start Date Schedule1]" & _

    "FROM [tbl Schedules]" & _

    "WHERE [tbl Schedules].Pattern=PatternName;"

 

    Set MyQDef = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern Start Date")

    MyQDef.SQL = strSQL

    Set myds1 = MyQDef.OpenRecordset()

    Table_Data = myds1.Fields(0)

    

    Set MyQDef = Nothing

 

 

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Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Jul 28 08:47:28 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:47:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EB02F7@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Thanks. That got it.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike & Doris
Manning
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Feed variable to parameter query

Try

    strSQL = "SELECT Pattern, [CO2 Injection Start Date Schedule1]" & _

    "FROM [tbl Schedules]" & _

    "WHERE [tbl Schedules].Pattern= '" & PatternName & "';"

Doris Manning
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From Jeff at outbaktech.com  Thu Jul 28 09:37:56 2005
From: Jeff at outbaktech.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:37:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] RE: [dba-Tech] RE: [dba-OT] Cross Posted: Looking for a
	.NET developernear Neenah, WI
Message-ID: <E2FBF0A51D2A324C90BA16C566366A6D0D913D@belgarion.Outbak.local>

I have already responded to one individual off-list.  If anyone else is interested in additional information, please contact me directly at the email address in my signature.
 
 
Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
 
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Phone: 886-5913
Fax: 886-5932
Racine, WI
jeff at outbaktech.com


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jul 28 10:19:05 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:19:05 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA86873B5B@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Yep, SageKey is a must for distributing runtimes, regardless of which
installer you use.  Their support is also incredible!

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au
[mailto:connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:47 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install


Not so impressive, they are not concurrent :) Just potentially so. 
Databases are not always deployed across all users.  I was referencing
the 
fact that we have deployed at least one database to these users and
their 
specific environments and have not had problems. 

Because of the way sagekey works we have found that as long as we 
encapsulate all of the things we reference into the sagekey runtime, we 
have had no issues at all. It may be worth a look at their website
http://www.sagekey.com/ for a run down of what it does and what they
promise. Just a suggestion 
but it has worked really well for us with the issues we were having
cross 
deploying and installing upgrades.

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries 
Orange

Ph: 02 6391 3250
Fax:02 6391 3290


Hi Connie - thanks for the reply. 2500 users? That's pretty impressive. 
Did you notice William's email? Have you had the version change problems

he mentions?

Kath


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From prosoft6 at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 28 10:23:25 2005
From: prosoft6 at hotmail.com (Julie Reardon-Taylor)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:23:25 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] strip the apostrophe's
Message-ID: <BAY104-F2477A29D06E9E3ACB796609ACF0@phx.gbl>

Hi,

I'm using a sql statement behind a search box to return the member's name as 
a result of a search with the data being displayed by the user choosing a 
query (button) or a report (button).  All was well until I ran into the data 
below:


Joe's Electrical


My sql statement errors out because it cannot handle the extra apostrophe.  
Should I be stripping any extra syntax before I process the sql statement, 
or should I test for this condition and handle this in a separate routine?


Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net




From Robin at rolledgold.net  Thu Jul 28 10:25:53 2005
From: Robin at rolledgold.net (Robin )
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:25:53 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] strip the apostrophe's
Message-ID: <560E2B80EC8F624B93A87B943B7A9CD52E2B9B@rgiserv.rg.local>

Julie,
Have a look at this
http://www.kamath.com/codelibrary/cl003_apostrophe.asp
Rgds
Robin Lawrence

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Julie Reardon-Taylor [mailto:prosoft6 at hotmail.com] 
	Sent: Thu 28/07/2005 16:23 
	To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
	Cc: 
	Subject: [AccessD] strip the apostrophe's
	
	

	Hi,
	
	I'm using a sql statement behind a search box to return the member's name as
	a result of a search with the data being displayed by the user choosing a
	query (button) or a report (button).  All was well until I ran into the data
	below:
	
	
	Joe's Electrical
	
	
	My sql statement errors out because it cannot handle the extra apostrophe. 
	Should I be stripping any extra syntax before I process the sql statement,
	or should I test for this condition and handle this in a separate routine?
	
	
	Julie Reardon-Taylor
	PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
	44 Public Square Suite #5
	Watertown, NY 13601
	Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
	www.pro-soft.net
	
	
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Jul 28 10:34:36 2005
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:34:36 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Huge Access Database was wrongly named Re: AccessD
	Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35 
Message-ID: <E61FC1D4B1918244905B113C680BEA8689A6B6@infoserver01.infostat.local>

Connie,

I just have to ask:  how many FIELDS are in that single table??  I
suspect it can be broken into multiple tables in a relational scheme and
the users will never know the difference, but the data mining they want
to do and the archiving requires a slightly different design approach,
so you probably will still wind up with two databases, one for data
entry/capture and one for data warehousing/archiving.  

I highly recommend Ralph Kimball's book The Data Warehouse Toolkit
(watch out for a wrap)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0471153370/002-6258971-950
0008?v=glance as a reference for building dimensional data warehouses.
Once you get your head around the concepts, including the star schema,
the design is simply a matter of how you want to use it.  Data retrieval
from dimensional data warehouses is very fast and requires minimal
querying because of the nature of the structure. 

Charlotte Foust


-----Original Message-----
From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au
[mailto:connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:31 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Re: Huge Access Database was wrongly named Re:
AccessD Digest, Vol 29, Issue 35 



Matty,

Yes the data is all entered into the original Database. The 4th DB is
actrually the data they need to export as a commercial venture (my
headache is getting worse LOL). The original data is entered from old
records and until I create the new relational model with a shiny new SQL
backend this is the only electronic record of the data. The need is
there to be able to seperate this based on the date it was entered and
store as a historical record, Problem is they may need to search the
historical data for a specific record. I am unsure of the best way to
manage this volume of records I guess. There is a unique number per
record, it is the serial number given by the database. The criteria they
will search on is a 16 digit alphanumeric field. It is probably simple,
but as I have not dealt with the whole historical record managemnt thing
I am looking for advice on how to manage this in the interim. That and I
wanted to share this as a hall of fame use of Access, LOL.

John,

What was the amusing bit??? The use of Access or my amazement.... *grin*
.... they obviously didn't have access to this group or they would have
known better huh?

Connie Kamrowski

Analyst/Programmer
Information Technology
NSW Department of Primary Industries
Orange

>They firstly store approximately 475000 records in one table in an  
>Access Database, They then run a query on this database which  creates 
>385000+ records and sticks them in a second database,  they then run a 
>query on this one generating 285000 records and  store this in ... you 
>guessed it Database number 3. To finish it off  they query again, store

>the results in a 4th database and use this  one for day to day 
>business.

Connie, can it be assumed that data-entry is done in the first db? Or,
are you saying that records are transferred from the fourth db to the
first at the end of the day? Perhaps they are even pulling such data
from a different database system?

...
> they wish to archive off some of the records in the largest database. 
> They would however need to be able to search and manipulate these 
> records. What is the best way to manage this?

If I read into this correctly, there are several records per account and
your new relational system will keep the track of the account number. As
long as there is a Primary Key AutoNumber that can relate to a Long in
the archive table(s), you can just use SQL for searches and edits.
Perhaps it is not this simple, though ... ? What's missing?



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From paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk  Thu Jul 28 10:38:34 2005
From: paul.hartland at isharp.co.uk (Paul Hartland (ISHARP))
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:38:34 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] strip the apostrophe's
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F2477A29D06E9E3ACB796609ACF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC4AAAAAAAAAclrM129q6km1GlSfRwF8CgEAFKerAD79REu7GTojEo2iDgAAAAddkgAAEAAAAB6XSoDANkRBroD5/9XJcvgBAAAAAA==@isharp.co.uk>

Julie,

I think I used to do something like the following:

	Dim strSQL As String
	Dim strName as string

	If InStr([Field],"'")>0 ) then
		strName = 
		strSQL = "SELECT [Fields] FROM [Table] WHERE
Left([Field],InStr([Field],"'")-1) & Mid([Field],InStr([Field],"'")+1) = '"
& strName & "'"
	Else
		strSQL = "SELECT [Fields] FROM [Table] WHERE [Field] = '" &
strName & "'"
	Endif

Written off top of my head, so may need modifying

Paul
	

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Julie
Reardon-Taylor
Sent: 28 July 2005 16:23
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] strip the apostrophe's

Hi,

I'm using a sql statement behind a search box to return the member's name as
a result of a search with the data being displayed by the user choosing a
query (button) or a report (button).  All was well until I ran into the data
below:


Joe's Electrical


My sql statement errors out because it cannot handle the extra apostrophe.  
Should I be stripping any extra syntax before I process the sql statement,
or should I test for this condition and handle this in a separate routine?


Julie Reardon-Taylor
PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
44 Public Square Suite #5
Watertown, NY 13601
Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
www.pro-soft.net


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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Jul 28 11:08:07 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:08:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EB0342@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

The following SQL returns a missing operator message yet if I put it in
the query grid all is good. That is a semi colon at the end even though
hard to see. Maybe I am just going blind from looking at it and not
seeing the error.

 

strSQL = "SELECT concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"FROM [tbl Patterns]" & _

"INNER JOIN [tbl WAG] ON [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme] = [tbl WAG].[WAG
Scheme]" & _

"WHERE Pattern = '" & PatternName & "' " & _

"GROUP BY concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

 

Set MyQDef1 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern WAG Scheme")

MyQDef1.SQL = strSQL

Set myds1 = MyQDef1.OpenRecordset().

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

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number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Jul 28 11:27:57 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:27:57 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F13777929@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

Could it be the very last couple of lines?...

Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

... There's no space after 'Comment' so this string winds up being

"Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, CommentORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

Lambert

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Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query


The following SQL returns a missing operator message yet if I put it in the
query grid all is good. That is a semi colon at the end even though hard to
see. Maybe I am just going blind from looking at it and not seeing the
error.

 

strSQL = "SELECT concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"FROM [tbl Patterns]" & _

"INNER JOIN [tbl WAG] ON [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme] = [tbl WAG].[WAG
Scheme]" & _

"WHERE Pattern = '" & PatternName & "' " & _

"GROUP BY concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

 

Set MyQDef1 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern WAG Scheme")

MyQDef1.SQL = strSQL

Set myds1 = MyQDef1.OpenRecordset().

 

Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

 

No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number
of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

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From bheid at appdevgrp.com  Thu Jul 28 11:36:46 2005
From: bheid at appdevgrp.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:36:46 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
In-Reply-To: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30C38415@ADGSERVER>
Message-ID: <916187228923D311A6FE00A0CC3FAA30ABED8C@ADGSERVER>

For that matter, there are missing spaces at the end of many of the lines.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query


Could it be the very last couple of lines?...

Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

... There's no space after 'Comment' so this string winds up being

"Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, CommentORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query


The following SQL returns a missing operator message yet if I put it in the
query grid all is good. That is a semi colon at the end even though hard to
see. Maybe I am just going blind from looking at it and not seeing the
error.

 

strSQL = "SELECT concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"FROM [tbl Patterns]" & _

"INNER JOIN [tbl WAG] ON [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme] = [tbl WAG].[WAG
Scheme]" & _

"WHERE Pattern = '" & PatternName & "' " & _

"GROUP BY concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

 

Set MyQDef1 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern WAG Scheme")

MyQDef1.SQL = strSQL

Set myds1 = MyQDef1.OpenRecordset().

 

Chester Kaup



From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Jul 28 12:05:11 2005
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:05:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
Message-ID: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EB0353@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>

Thnaks everyone. Another set of eyes looking sometimes helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:37 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query

For that matter, there are missing spaces at the end of many of the
lines.

Bobby

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
Lambert
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query


Could it be the very last couple of lines?...

Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

... There's no space after 'Comment' so this string winds up being

"Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, CommentORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query


The following SQL returns a missing operator message yet if I put it in
the
query grid all is good. That is a semi colon at the end even though hard
to
see. Maybe I am just going blind from looking at it and not seeing the
error.

 

strSQL = "SELECT concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"FROM [tbl Patterns]" & _

"INNER JOIN [tbl WAG] ON [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme] = [tbl WAG].[WAG
Scheme]" & _

"WHERE Pattern = '" & PatternName & "' " & _

"GROUP BY concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _

"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"

 

Set MyQDef1 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern WAG Scheme")

MyQDef1.SQL = strSQL

Set myds1 = MyQDef1.OpenRecordset().

 

Chester Kaup

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From martyconnelly at shaw.ca  Thu Jul 28 13:06:18 2005
From: martyconnelly at shaw.ca (MartyConnelly)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:06:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
References: <F1DD538AE6BCE74EBE562DE51564D322EB0353@houexch1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <42E91E9A.7050309@shaw.ca>

When I get one of these I look for reserved words and do a
debug.print strSQL
"And all is revealed"
It sure beats having to look through a 200 page hexadecimal dump printout..

Kaup, Chester wrote:

>Thnaks everyone. Another set of eyes looking sometimes helps.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
>Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:37 AM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
>
>For that matter, there are missing spaces at the end of many of the
>lines.
>
>Bobby
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan,
>Lambert
>Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:28 PM
>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>Subject: RE: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
>
>
>Could it be the very last couple of lines?...
>
>Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _
>
>"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"
>
>... There's no space after 'Comment' so this string winds up being
>
>"Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, CommentORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"
>
>Lambert
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
>Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:08 PM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] Missing Operator in Query
>
>
>The following SQL returns a missing operator message yet if I put it in
>the
>query grid all is good. That is a semi colon at the end even though hard
>to
>see. Maybe I am just going blind from looking at it and not seeing the
>error.
>
> 
>
>strSQL = "SELECT concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
>Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _
>
>"FROM [tbl Patterns]" & _
>
>"INNER JOIN [tbl WAG] ON [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme] = [tbl WAG].[WAG
>Scheme]" & _
>
>"WHERE Pattern = '" & PatternName & "' " & _
>
>"GROUP BY concate, [tbl Patterns].[WAG Scheme], Cum_Toti_hcpv,
>Cum_CO2i_hcpv, Cum_Wateri_hcpv, Fluid, Comment" & _
>
>"ORDER BY Cum_Toti_hcpv;"
>
> 
>
>Set MyQDef1 = MyDb.QueryDefs("qry Pattern WAG Scheme")
>
>MyQDef1.SQL = strSQL
>
>Set myds1 = MyQDef1.OpenRecordset().
>
> 
>
>Chester Kaup
>
>  
>

-- 
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Canada





From KP at sdsonline.net  Thu Jul 28 19:10:15 2005
From: KP at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:10:15 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install
References: <OF4407B1B7.1C627C41-ONCA25704C.001993E3@agric.nsw.gov.au>
Message-ID: <003f01c593d1$e683ea60$6601a8c0@user>

I do own Wise and Sagekey,having bought them for a distribution for a client a couple of years ago. Unfortunately I didn't get to learn much after the initial install (which was very successful after a couple of attempts and the support was good). But the company was bought out and they changed platforms so I never moved on to distributing upgrades.

So far every one of my clients have had Access so I have gone that way but I am rethinking it. This month one of my clients hit  a snag which cost them a day at a crucial time  of the month because Frontpage was uninstalled from the PC and I had a reference set to it - that the kind of problem I am getting.

Thanks for the advice,

Kath
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: connie.kamrowski at agric.nsw.gov.au 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 2:46 PM
  Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Vs Full Access Install


  Not so impressive, they are not concurrent :) Just potentially so. 
  Databases are not always deployed across all users.  I was referencing the 
  fact that we have deployed at least one database to these users and their 
  specific environments and have not had problems. 

  Because of the way sagekey works we have found that as long as we 
  encapsulate all of the things we reference into the sagekey runtime, we 
  have had no issues at all. It may be worth a look at their website http://www.sagekey.com/ for a run down of what it does and what they promise. Just a suggestion 
  but it has worked really well for us with the issues we were having cross 
  deploying and installing upgrades.

  Connie Kamrowski

  Analyst/Programmer
  Information Technology
  NSW Department of Primary Industries 
  Orange

  Ph: 02 6391 3250
  Fax:02 6391 3290


  Hi Connie - thanks for the reply. 2500 users? That's pretty impressive. 
  Did you notice William's email? Have you had the version change problems 
  he mentions?

  Kath


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From adtp at touchtelindia.net  Fri Jul 29 07:26:57 2005
From: adtp at touchtelindia.net (A.D.Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 17:56:57 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days
References: <BAY104-F249F5766FEF20EA461B29D9ACD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <021101c59438$e5e4e570$b71865cb@winxp>

Julie,

    Two of my sample db's mentioned below, might be of interest to you. 
    (a) LicenseLock
    (b) TrialSet

    These are available at Rogers Access Library (other developers library). Link - http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com

Best wishes,
A.D.Tejpal
--------------
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Julie Reardon-Taylor 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 20:30
  Subject: [AccessD] Demo To Run for 30 Days


  I'd like to put a demo on my website as a download and have it run for 30 
  days, checking the stored date against the system date.  I know I've seen 
  this somewhere, but cannot seem to find the code.  Can anyone point me in 
  the right direction?



  Julie Reardon-Taylor
  PRO-SOFT OF NY, INC.
  44 Public Square Suite #5
  Watertown, NY 13601
  Phone/Fax: (315) 785-0319
  www.pro-soft.net


From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Fri Jul 29 08:43:16 2005
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:43:16 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor
Message-ID: <1D7828CDB8350747AFE9D69E0E90DA1F13777B15@xlivmbx21.aig.com>

A MAGAZINE RECENTLY RAN A "DILBERT QUOTES" CONTEST. IT SOUGHT PEOPLE TO
SUBMIT QUOTES FROM THEIR REAL-LIFE "DILBERT-TYPE" MANAGERS. HERE ARE THE TOP
TEN FINALISTS: 

1. "As of tomorrow, employees will only be able to access the building using
individual security cards. Pictures will be taken next Wednesday and
employees will receive their cards in two weeks." 
(The Winner) 
----------------------------------------------- 
2. "What I need is an exact list of specific unknown problems we might
encounter." 
(Lykes Lines Shipping) 
----------------------------------------------- 
3. "E-mail is not to be used to pass on information or data. It should be
used only for company business." 
(Accounting manager, Electric Boat Company) 
----------------------------------------------- 
4. "This project is so important, we can't let things that are more
important interfere with it." 
(Advertising/Marketing manager, United Parcel Service) 

----------------------------------------------- 
5. "Doing it right is no excuse for not meeting the schedule. 
(Plant manager, Delco Corporation) 
----------------------------------------------- 
6. "No one will believe you solved this problem in one day! They've been
working on it for months. Now, go act busy for a few weeks and I'll let you
know when it's time to tell them." 
(R&D supervisor, Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing /3M Corp.) 
----------------------------------------------- 
7. Quote from the Boss: "Teamwork is a lot of people doing what I say." 
(Marketing executive, Citrix Corporation) 
----------------------------------------------- 
8. My sister passed away and her funeral was scheduled for Monday. When I
told my Boss, he said she died on purpose so that I would have to miss work
on the busiest day of the year. He then asked if we could change her burial
to Friday. He said, "That would be better for me." 
(Shipping executive, FTD Florists) 
9. "We know that communication is a problem, but the company is not going to
discuss it with the employees." 
(Switching supervisor, AT&T Long Lines Division) 
LOL, now that's just priceless. 
----------------------------------------------- 
10. One day my Boss asked me to submit a status report to him concerning a
project I was working on. I asked him if tomorrow would be soon enough. He
said, "If I wanted it tomorrow, I would have waited until tomorrow to ask
for it!" 
(Hallmark Cards executive) 


In the midst of great joy, do not promise anyone anything. In the midst of
great anger, do not answer anyone's letter. ? Chinese proverb 




From jimdettman at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 30 10:43:32 2005
From: jimdettman at earthlink.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:43:32 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Locking question
In-Reply-To: <aea6c495050727114576b2dbdb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <NDEALJOEGMMPCDKIFGNFCELLEFAA.jimdettman@earthlink.net>

Gary,

  No, you hit it right on the head.  If Access cannot create a LDB file, it
opens the MDB/MDE in exclusive mode.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 2:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Locking question


Hi Bobby,

The users need to have File Creation rights in the folder that the BE
database lives in so the LDB file can be created. Is there an LDB file
being created for the BE when the first user is in there? I think with
one user it will allow access without being able to create the LDB
file but will lock out the second user? I could be out in left field
wandering in my own dream world too of course. I do know that users of
our Access databases need full file creation, change and deletion
rights in the folder or else it doesn't work.

On 7/27/05, Bobby Heid <bheid at appdevgrp.com> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Our clients use our system on a network where each user has a FE against
the
> BE on the server.  While the app was originally written to all be on the
> local pc, it has migrated to the server.  Usually all goes well.
>
> Well, this one client has some weird happenings going on.  One user will
be
> in the database in any given form.  Another user cannot get access to the
BE
> until the 1st user exits the form they were in.  The first thing the app
> does is to relink the tables to the last BE that was loaded.  It sounds
like
> there are some sort of issues with locking and the LDB file.
>
> Anyone have any pointers?
>
> Thanks,
> Bobby
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Jul 30 23:43:27 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:43:27 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Error 550
Message-ID: <000901c5958a$660f6e80$0300a8c0@ColbyM6805>

Does anyone understand what is going on with email sent from inside of
specific networks.  Here's the situation...

I get the following error (as an example):

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

      Subject:	RE: Logging in to George
      Sent:	7/29/2005 1:00 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

      'Jason Ralph' on 7/29/2005 1:00 PM
            550 not local host invohealthcare.com, not a gateway

>From my sister-in-law's house when I try to send to this specific address,
using SMPT server mail.colbyconsulting.com.  If I send mail to myself I do
not get this problem (to jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com).  I have seen this
exact same symptom if sending from my client.  It never happened before from
my sister-in-law's but is now.

It turns out that if I look at her email smtp server
(mail.rochester.rr.com), and modify my smtp server to match it works.  It
appears that this is the classic port 25 blocking thing.  It is a royal PITA
to have to find out what the correct smtp server is, modify Outlook, and
send to that whenever I move from place to place.

At my previous host for MY WEB SITE, they had me set up to send on a
different port (26 maybe?) and then it worked regardless of where I was
since only port 25 was being blocked and my web email server
(mail.colbyconsulting.com) was expecting traffic on a different port.

The odd part here is that I can send to myself (always), i.e.
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com.  That must go on port 25 as well, so why does
that go just fine, but not the other message?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From DWUTKA at marlow.com  Sat Jul 30 23:51:28 2005
From: DWUTKA at marlow.com (DWUTKA at marlow.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 23:51:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Error 550
Message-ID: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016DB80@main2.marlow.com>

It depends on how they have THEIR mail server setup.  With the onslaught of
spam, a lot of mail servers get down right finicky on what it will let
through.  I know my personal domain is/was blocked on several mail servers
because the IP's in my domain were listed as dynamic, instead of static,
which they WERE static.  If the domain of the email you are sending 'from'
doesn't match the IP's sending the mail, that's another big 'block'.  Then
there are several 'black lists' on the web, which store domains considered
to be spam.

Honestly, it's an issue that is a sore point for me (both spam, and the
methods used to block).  

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 11:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Tech - Database
Advisors Inc.
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Error 550


Does anyone understand what is going on with email sent from inside of
specific networks.  Here's the situation...

I get the following error (as an example):

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

      Subject:	RE: Logging in to George
      Sent:	7/29/2005 1:00 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

      'Jason Ralph' on 7/29/2005 1:00 PM
            550 not local host invohealthcare.com, not a gateway

>From my sister-in-law's house when I try to send to this specific address,
using SMPT server mail.colbyconsulting.com.  If I send mail to myself I do
not get this problem (to jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com).  I have seen this
exact same symptom if sending from my client.  It never happened before from
my sister-in-law's but is now.

It turns out that if I look at her email smtp server
(mail.rochester.rr.com), and modify my smtp server to match it works.  It
appears that this is the classic port 25 blocking thing.  It is a royal PITA
to have to find out what the correct smtp server is, modify Outlook, and
send to that whenever I move from place to place.

At my previous host for MY WEB SITE, they had me set up to send on a
different port (26 maybe?) and then it worked regardless of where I was
since only port 25 was being blocked and my web email server
(mail.colbyconsulting.com) was expecting traffic on a different port.

The odd part here is that I can send to myself (always), i.e.
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com.  That must go on port 25 as well, so why does
that go just fine, but not the other message?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Jul 31 00:31:17 2005
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (John W. Colby)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 01:31:17 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Error 550
In-Reply-To: <123701F54509D9119A4F00D0B747349016DB80@main2.marlow.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c59591$17cb1970$0300a8c0@ColbyM6805>

Yea, but it is more than that.  If I just send a test message to myself, it
just goes.  A few minutes later it comes back in just fine.  If I send to
one of these other places, it INSTANTLY gets this 550 error in my inbox.  If
I then change from using mail.colbyconsulting.com as the smtp server address
to the "local" smtp address (RR address) it goes out just fine.  So it is
not a case of "we don't like this destination".  It is just forcing me to
send through their mail server, but NOT when sending to my own mail server.
Truly odd don't you think?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DWUTKA at marlow.com
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 12:51 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: RE: [AccessD] OT: Error 550


It depends on how they have THEIR mail server setup.  With the onslaught of
spam, a lot of mail servers get down right finicky on what it will let
through.  I know my personal domain is/was blocked on several mail servers
because the IP's in my domain were listed as dynamic, instead of static,
which they WERE static.  If the domain of the email you are sending 'from'
doesn't match the IP's sending the mail, that's another big 'block'.  Then
there are several 'black lists' on the web, which store domains considered
to be spam.

Honestly, it's an issue that is a sore point for me (both spam, and the
methods used to block).  

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Colby [mailto:jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 11:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; Tech - Database
Advisors Inc.
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Error 550


Does anyone understand what is going on with email sent from inside of
specific networks.  Here's the situation...

I get the following error (as an example):

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

      Subject:	RE: Logging in to George
      Sent:	7/29/2005 1:00 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

      'Jason Ralph' on 7/29/2005 1:00 PM
            550 not local host invohealthcare.com, not a gateway

>From my sister-in-law's house when I try to send to this specific 
>address,
using SMPT server mail.colbyconsulting.com.  If I send mail to myself I do
not get this problem (to jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com).  I have seen this
exact same symptom if sending from my client.  It never happened before from
my sister-in-law's but is now.

It turns out that if I look at her email smtp server
(mail.rochester.rr.com), and modify my smtp server to match it works.  It
appears that this is the classic port 25 blocking thing.  It is a royal PITA
to have to find out what the correct smtp server is, modify Outlook, and
send to that whenever I move from place to place.

At my previous host for MY WEB SITE, they had me set up to send on a
different port (26 maybe?) and then it worked regardless of where I was
since only port 25 was being blocked and my web email server
(mail.colbyconsulting.com) was expecting traffic on a different port.

The odd part here is that I can send to myself (always), i.e.
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com.  That must go on port 25 as well, so why does
that go just fine, but not the other message?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com 

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From joeget at vgernet.net  Sun Jul 31 19:02:20 2005
From: joeget at vgernet.net (John Eget)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 20:02:20 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] mde....mdb format
Message-ID: <002101c5962c$4d06dcf0$ebc2f63f@Desktop>

I have correctly complied and ran a mdb database with no errors, yet when i convert to mde i get the error pop that the command on a click event is not available in a mde/ade format. has anyone came across this before,  what happens when i create a mde?

Thanks for looking
John